| 00:04.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | some fan made anti-cheat program for a game had the best motto i've seen |
| 00:04.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | "if you break it, you get to keep both halves" |
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| 00:26.26 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies: thats a rather common saying |
| 00:26.50 | Guillotine | alright, HelpLib posted at http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/7927/ along with screenshots and an example addon to show how to use it |
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| 00:26.55 | Guillotine | posting it on WoWI right now |
| 00:27.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it? |
| 00:27.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 00:27.13 | Tech-Force | Anyone knows how to cure my problem with auctioneer? Can't scan... |
| 00:27.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never heard it outside of that app |
| 00:27.22 | Tech-Force | D/L the latest version. Still can't scan. |
| 00:27.28 | Guillotine | Tech-Force: #norganna |
| 00:27.43 | Tech-Force | Went there, no one answers :-( |
| 00:27.49 | Tech-Force | But merci for the tip, lol. |
| 00:28.17 | Guillotine | dunno, I'm still using an old version :P |
| 00:28.46 | Kaso | The memory feature is a little superflous isnt it? |
| 00:28.49 | Tech-Force | Peux-tu scanner avec la vieille version? |
| 00:29.52 | Shirik | je peux... |
| 00:30.32 | Tech-Force | Pas moi. @^$^%$ |
| 00:30.38 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:30.55 | Shirik | tu as le nouvelle version? |
| 00:31.05 | Tech-Force | Oui |
| 00:31.25 | Tech-Force | Je l'ai chargée, mes vieilles infos sont toujours bonnes mais impossible de scanner. |
| 00:31.36 | Shirik | pourquoi est-ce que nous sommes parler en francais? |
| 00:32.15 | Shirik | est-ce que tu est francais? |
| 00:32.24 | Tech-Force | Guillotine's name I guess.... French-Canadian. |
| 00:32.33 | Shirik | ah |
| 00:32.49 | Shirik | I'm just some random US guy that wants to think he knows frencyh |
| 00:32.53 | TC-Working | it's a killing device...ofc someone would have it |
| 00:33.25 | Tech-Force | lol |
| 00:33.25 | Guillotine | Tech-Force: not french or canadian. I'm a stupid, fat american (minus the fat and the stupid) |
| 00:33.33 | Tech-Force | :-P |
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| 00:35.57 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.57 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.57 | Kaso | What do you guys think of this change? Is it a buff or a nerf? It's hard to tell but I'm leaning toward nerf. When the alt tab crash bug was in the game it was a severely needed buff to Windowed Mode, however they had to go back and reverse the change due to massive whining and had to buff Full-screen Mode while simultaneously nerfing Windowed Mode. |
| 00:36.04 | Kaso | Best post ever imo. |
| 00:36.17 | Aita | Hehe |
| 00:36.24 | zenzelezz | personally I think it made Onyxia DB more |
| 00:36.24 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 00:36.40 | Guillotine | lol |
| 00:37.03 | Aita | What are the requirements for creating a custom edgefile for a backdrop? That is, how exactly is an edgefile created? |
| 00:37.59 | zenzelezz | Aita: http://www.wowwiki.com/EdgeFiles |
| 00:38.20 | Aita | Hehe, alas, my search powers failed me. Thank you :) |
| 00:38.45 | zenzelezz | I only remember it because I've used it a bit myself |
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| 00:53.16 | Corrodias | god damn hunter can't manage to trap one morores add |
| 00:53.19 | Aita | zenzelezz: Thank you for the link, it was precisely what I needed. I shall repay the debt someday =) |
| 00:53.21 | Corrodias | i just had to vent that a little |
| 00:54.00 | foxlit | Is #t expensive? |
| 00:54.14 | foxlit | or is it cached so that it's essentially the same as n? |
| 00:54.44 | Corrodias | i believe that hunters can be great, but this one either has bad luck or doesn't have the -10% trap resist talent |
| 00:54.53 | Guillotine | our guild is so full of pwnage. This is our third week of kara, killed prince. One group has a pally MT, one has a druid MT (me) |
| 00:55.14 | Corrodias | and ours is sucking |
| 00:55.27 | Corrodias | sucking sucking sucking |
| 00:55.47 | TC-Working | 4 more lvls and i can join you guys...bah |
| 00:56.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 00:56.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | "Internal bag error" |
| 00:56.32 | TC-Working | happens from time to time |
| 00:56.35 | TC-Working | try again |
| 00:56.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never seen it @_@ |
| 00:56.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen internal auction and mail errors |
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| 00:58.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | anyone know any addons that let me move the editbox to above the chatframe? :O |
| 00:59.34 | Kaydeethree | ct_core |
| 00:59.57 | TC-Working | w/o editing the chatframe itself? |
| 01:00.16 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 01:00.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not letting me move it with fluidframes, hrm |
| 01:00.59 | TC-Working | i just use a chat mod for that |
| 01:04.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | what mod? |
| 01:04.39 | foxlit | [02:59] <Kaydeethree> ct_core |
| 01:04.40 | foxlit | ? |
| 01:05.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't that do a whole lot of other stuff too? |
| 01:05.17 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.18 | Kaydeethree | it can |
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| 01:09.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i understand that, but it does a ton of ther stuff i don't particularly need, i believe :O |
| 01:09.22 | Kaydeethree | then don't enable the stuff you don't want |
| 01:09.49 | Kaso | It is a fair amount of bloat having ct_core just to have the moving |
| 01:11.31 | Kaso | Mr_Rabies, i'd prob just borrow cide's code and shove it into a mini-addon if your own to do the job |
| 01:11.36 | Guillotine | Prat does that as well, but I'm not sure how much of that you'd use either |
| 01:11.55 | Kaso | editBox:ClearAllPoints(); |
| 01:11.55 | Kaso | editBox:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "ChatFrame1", "TOPLEFT", -5, 2); |
| 01:11.55 | Kaso | editBox:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", "ChatFrame1", "TOPRIGHT", 5, 2); |
| 01:12.17 | zenzelezz | I figured those lines on my own \o/ |
| 01:12.17 | Kaso | Sorry replacing editbox with ChatFrameEditBox |
| 01:12.45 | Kaso | thats interesting though, local editBox = _G.ChatFrameEditBox; is that really quicker than doing local editBox = ChatFrameEditBox; ? |
| 01:12.56 | Kaso | given that _G is a local reference |
| 01:13.27 | MentalPower|Work | its quicker, but I don't think its much |
| 01:13.36 | MentalPower|Work | ask iriel for specifics |
| 01:14.09 | JoshBorke | Cairenn|hockey: oh dear, i hope you're not the one PLAYING hockey |
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| 01:36.53 | Pac2722 | hey can any1 tell me it's there a way to run 2 screens 1 with wow open & playing & 1 to look up thottbot? |
| 01:37.21 | Guillotine | Cairenn|hockey: you better be rooting for the ducks |
| 01:37.28 | Guillotine | or I'm never speaking to you again |
| 01:37.29 | Guillotine | ever |
| 01:37.47 | JoshBorke | Pac2722: yes, use windowed mode in wow |
| 01:37.58 | Pac2722 | dow? |
| 01:38.20 | Pac2722 | how?*\ |
| 01:38.47 | JoshBorke | go to the main menu in wow |
| 01:38.58 | JoshBorke | then click video options |
| 01:39.21 | JoshBorke | in the top section labeled Display, there is a checkbutton towards the bottom right labeled : Windowed Mode |
| 01:39.24 | JoshBorke | make sure that's clicked |
| 01:39.48 | Pac2722 | wow thnx that works |
| 01:40.11 | JoshBorke | you're welcome |
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| 02:00.45 | robthedude | Hello everybody! |
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| 02:06.35 | Kaydeethree | wuwu [The Tempest Key] |
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| 02:19.35 | Kaso | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=288810695&sid=1 |
| 02:19.47 | Kaso | i love Erasmus's post there, he tried so hard to be helpful god bless him. |
| 02:29.42 | Guillotine | w00000t! Ducks score!!! |
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| 02:31.25 | Kaso | is arg11 on Chat_msg_[whisper/say/yell/whatever] realm for cross realm bgs? |
| 02:35.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i have such an awesome theory on the infinite dragonflight, i hope it ends up being what happens : |
| 02:35.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 02:36.20 | Mike-N-Go | 'Fixed a crash in the client.' Important, I guess =P |
| 02:39.26 | zenzelezz | well, I heard a few people were having trouble, so probably something "bad" |
| 02:39.40 | Aita | I believe arg11 may be the lineID being passed for the new CanComplain features |
| 02:40.23 | Aita | I use it in my chat mod as such, so I'm hoping that's the case =) |
| 02:41.34 | Guillotine | w000T ducks wun! |
| 02:41.38 | Guillotine | we're going all the way! |
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| 02:47.21 | zenzelezz | anyone know if you can stop a Model/PlayerModel from animating? |
| 02:56.13 | Mike-N-Go | zenzelezz: Lag? |
| 02:56.42 | zenzelezz | I meant by code; forcing a screen lockup on someone would be counterproductive |
| 02:56.47 | Aita | Hehe |
| 03:00.14 | Mike-N-Go | zenzelezz: Run an indefinite loop/crate some code to make the client hang? |
| 03:04.09 | zenzelezz | considering I've just said that's exactly what I don't want to do, I find your attempt at humor to have failed |
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| 03:19.55 | Aita | You could do a really ugly thing, and call an onupdate to continually set the sequence of the model, if you're that desperate =D |
| 03:20.41 | zenzelezz | nah, if there's no simple stop command I'll just let it run |
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| 04:31.49 | cogwheel | RESIST imo |
| 04:32.22 | Aita | Hehe |
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| 06:18.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o that's odd |
| 06:18.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | my Lifebloom disappears from bartender when i close my spell book O_o |
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| 06:23.02 | Zeal | yay for banging head against a wall.. can someone help me with a very simple yet somewhat confusing problem.. http://wowi.pastey.net/46412 even when it get's fixed and output to chat, it will still fail the next if.. :S |
| 06:24.51 | Mikk | Zeal: I've fixed your indentation for you. See if you see the problem now. |
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| 06:27.18 | Zeal | bah, that's not live code, that's jsut an error with what i pasted :p |
| 06:27.31 | Zeal | so, ty, but not the problem, heh. |
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| 06:28.50 | Mikk | Zeal: http://wowi.pastey.net/46429-2xs4 |
| 06:29.03 | Mikk | Seriously, you should see the problem now |
| 06:29.29 | Mikk | hint: "local"s are local inside if then ... end blocks |
| 06:30.04 | Mikk | is "bar" a function argument that you're testing? |
| 06:30.06 | Zeal | hm.. i didn't realize that applied to if's.. meh : / |
| 06:30.11 | Mikk | if so, you don't need to re-local it |
| 06:30.13 | Zeal | yes |
| 06:30.15 | Mikk | arguments are always local |
| 06:30.17 | Zeal | ok, ty. |
| 06:30.26 | Zeal | blizz did it though >_> |
| 06:30.27 | Zeal | lol |
| 06:31.21 | Zeal | no they didn't, i'm jsuting being noob :( i should sleep.. |
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| 07:58.25 | Mike-N-Go | 'Enraged Crusher becomes enraged!' |
| 08:04.59 | Luminax | '%player says NO DUH' |
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| 08:09.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, being able to herb in swift flight form is awesome |
| 08:10.32 | Elkano | who cares about herbs :/ I wanna skin again :/ |
| 08:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | again? |
| 08:11.37 | Elkano | you used tobe able to skin in normal flight form but afaik it's gone with 2.1 |
| 08:12.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | strange |
| 08:12.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can do all types of gathering in swift flight atm |
| 08:12.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i |
| 08:12.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure it's not intended |
| 08:12.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i don't care :P |
| 08:14.56 | Luminax | feh |
| 08:14.57 | Luminax | you can shift-in shift-out in a few blinks |
| 08:15.06 | Luminax | us non-druids have to dismount, skin, mount... |
| 08:15.38 | Elkano | who cares about others... ;) |
| 08:15.49 | Luminax | yay tomorrow I'll be honored with Ogri'la |
| 08:16.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got 2 days worth of netherdust pollen in about 10 minutes |
| 08:16.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | <3 swift flight form |
| 08:16.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 2 primal mana |
| 08:16.30 | Luminax | my average is now 7 perfect run out of 10 |
| 08:16.45 | Elkano | thinking about that a friend of mine dropped herbalism for tailoring ^^ |
| 08:16.48 | Luminax | not including the Skettis bombing :3 |
| 08:16.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | also got a netherwing egg in the process |
| 08:17.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | skettis bombing is fun |
| 08:17.08 | Luminax | nice |
| 08:17.16 | Luminax | I still have to gather enough money to buy me my epix >< |
| 08:17.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't think they can knock us out of swift flight form |
| 08:17.22 | Luminax | fun ? feh |
| 08:17.24 | Luminax | Ogri'la's 'funner' |
| 08:17.37 | Luminax | the danger of falling down is real in BE plateau |
| 08:17.55 | Luminax | in Skettis you can just generally hover around above the water |
| 08:18.38 | Luminax | and did I tell you how fun it is dodging flak cannonballs ? |
| 08:18.50 | SunTiger | no |
| 08:19.15 | Luminax | "captain! artillery to the dead right!" "execute zero dive!!" |
| 08:19.22 | Luminax | fun times |
| 08:19.44 | Luminax | especially if you're doing it a group and all are flying in formation ;) |
| 08:19.50 | Luminax | *in a group |
| 08:21.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do i start the BEM skyguard quests? |
| 08:22.38 | Luminax | first to Shattrath |
| 08:22.46 | Luminax | and do the Ogri'la "attunement" |
| 08:23.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh, get the flash for tork? |
| 08:23.22 | Luminax | starts from Grok in Shattrath's lower city, near the Tailoring vendors |
| 08:23.27 | Luminax | ohhhh |
| 08:23.33 | Luminax | you're already Ogri'la attuned ? good |
| 08:23.45 | Luminax | Our Boy Wants To Be A Skyranger |
| 08:23.51 | Luminax | that's one quest you must do |
| 08:24.12 | Luminax | next one is you must attain an Apexis Vibration, the quest's called "An Apexis Relic" or something similar |
| 08:24.41 | Luminax | you do this by going to one of those crystal pylon cluster, with one big pylon at the center and about 4 smaller pylons surrounding it |
| 08:24.48 | Luminax | the smaller one's your goal |
| 08:25.04 | Luminax | click on it, 'insert' 1 crystal and play 'Simon says' |
| 08:27.01 | Luminax | you listening Mr_Rabies2 ? :3 |
| 08:27.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 08:27.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i already played the ancient arakkoa simon game once |
| 08:27.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | a pain after you get the 2 hour buff |
| 08:28.06 | Luminax | huh ? |
| 08:28.10 | Luminax | well... |
| 08:28.16 | Luminax | you have to do it first up to 6 sequence |
| 08:28.20 | Luminax | you'll get "Apexis Vibration" |
| 08:28.32 | Luminax | turn that quest in, and you'll get another quest, which is the daily quest "Apexis Emanation" |
| 08:28.49 | Luminax | where you need to do.. uhm.. up to 10 or 12 sequences iirc, starting from the first |
| 08:29.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | which sucks :[ |
| 08:29.24 | Luminax | a good way to do this is, face one of the button, tilt your camera until you can see it perfectly from above in a circle, and you're in the center |
| 08:29.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't remember that well :[ |
| 08:29.39 | Luminax | assign number to the clusters, 1 for the one in front of you |
| 08:29.46 | Luminax | and going clockwise, 2 3 4 |
| 08:30.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope theres an ancient draenei guitar hero game next |
| 08:30.09 | Luminax | and open your /say chat, and get ready to type the number as the bolts goes |
| 08:30.12 | Luminax | lol |
| 08:30.19 | Luminax | or you can do it by colour |
| 08:30.24 | Luminax | yrgb <- |
| 08:31.06 | Luminax | anyway, after you're done with Apexis Vibration -> Apexis Emanation and Our boy wants to be a Sky Ranger |
| 08:31.17 | Luminax | you'll get a quest to speak to the captain at the Skyguard forward base |
| 08:31.27 | Luminax | and then, it's BOMBING TIME |
| 08:32.10 | Luminax | which is also a daily quest, but when you started it, you get to bomb them two times |
| 08:32.15 | Luminax | *first started |
| 08:32.40 | Luminax | your objectives are the 'hunter marked' pile of cannonballs |
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| 10:38.45 | Bleeter | well, after a week... I can happily say that the anti-spam measures previously discussed in here pre 2.1, and then implemented by Blizz, seem to be working great. |
| 10:39.11 | Bleeter | Only seen one spammer on trade chan, and some poor lonely dwarf in IF AH before maint resorting to /say gold selling! |
| 10:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Which server? |
| 10:39.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Because that sounds identical to mine. |
| 10:39.57 | Bleeter | THorium Brotherhood, US RP PvE |
| 10:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, close |
| 10:40.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Doomhammer US PvE here |
| 10:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's somewhat pathetic almost watching them spam /say |
| 10:40.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Almost comical |
| 10:40.39 | Luminax | I bask in the aftermath ! |
| 10:40.42 | Bleeter | yeah, I rofled lots in emote |
| 10:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just..... incredibly pathetic |
| 10:41.10 | Bleeter | now, as an unguilded healer... if they can give a default option to ignore guild invites and group invites, I'll be damned happy :D |
| 10:41.24 | ScytheBlade1 | They went from spamming the entire server en masse in seconds, to.. getting 10 people by the mailbox. |
| 10:41.34 | Bleeter | well, give an option to.. not default it to those settings ;) |
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| 10:46.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got 2 gold spams last night :[ |
| 10:47.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | in /w |
| 10:47.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably from hijacked accts |
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| 10:49.39 | Bleeter | heh, yeah.. just checked my logs, Esamynn|Away and I started a big bitch session 'bout gold spam in here round end of first week of April |
| 10:49.53 | Tem | ~botmail for Shadowed your new forumla for points isn't correct for ratings <1500. It appears to be right for > 1500, though. |
| 10:49.55 | Bleeter | I just like to think that the #'s general constructiveness on the ideas, etc., got the system in :D |
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| 10:55.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, wasn't that |
| 10:55.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It was SpamSentry blasting the GMs |
| 10:56.46 | Bleeter | Maybe combination of all things... some of the specifics mentioned back then appear to have ended up in game. |
| 10:57.36 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 10:58.54 | Bleeter | It was generally decided that nothing much could be done by a pure mod solution, and needed server side support otherwise we'd just be swinging stuff in the wind ;) |
| 10:59.12 | Bleeter | anyways, probs to those getting the stuff happening |
| 10:59.14 | Bleeter | er |
| 10:59.15 | Bleeter | props |
| 10:59.18 | Bleeter | food time here |
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| 11:05.20 | wobin | 9pm? |
| 11:07.22 | Kaso | Why has Slouken re-added pitchLimit ? |
| 11:09.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | keyloggers are way up on the forums |
| 11:10.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | to make up for revenue loss in not being able to spam on trial accounts and possibly from a lawsuit in the coming months |
| 11:10.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaso, because it was removed to prevent a problem involving spontaneous death/client crashes :) |
| 11:11.00 | Kaso | i thought it was removed to stop people flying upside down. |
| 11:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 11:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | There was a thread with details on the matter a while ago |
| 11:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | cardplace is your friends |
| 11:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | wowexposed is currently bugged :( |
| 11:12.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i prefer it to cardplace usually, but it's been broken for a while |
| 11:13.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh looks fixed now |
| 11:16.26 | wobin | /mountspecial? |
| 11:29.14 | JunkHead-Work | Anyone around? |
| 11:29.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 11:30.08 | JunkHead-Work | I got a question. |
| 11:30.13 | JunkHead-Work | Nothing major. |
| 11:30.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't ask to ask, ask :) |
| 11:30.25 | JunkHead-Work | What is a good enchantment for [Gorehow]? |
| 11:30.33 | JunkHead-Work | My Paladin got one. |
| 11:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 11:31.31 | JunkHead-Work | Yup. |
| 11:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | No clue, don't have a pally |
| 11:31.31 | JunkHead-Work | We all laughed. |
| 11:31.31 | JunkHead-Work | I'm Holy as well.:P |
| 11:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awesome |
| 11:31.31 | JunkHead-Work | Thing is though, I solo fine, but my mace takes forever to kill stuff with. |
| 11:31.31 | Kaso | Savagery, mongoose are nice |
| 11:31.31 | JunkHead-Work | So They let me get it to aid in farming and stuff. |
| 11:31.32 | Kaso | but if you're holy, well im not sure |
| 11:31.47 | JunkHead-Work | Well, like I said, it's not for when I'm healing. |
| 11:31.55 | JunkHead-Work | Just for when I'm solo grinding/farming. |
| 11:32.05 | Kaso | Savagery is cheap, and will boost damage |
| 11:32.15 | JunkHead-Work | SOmething to speed it up a bit since my Healing Mace only hits for ~100 |
| 11:32.23 | JunkHead-Work | What does Moongoose do? |
| 11:32.30 | JunkHead-Work | Add Agility or something? |
| 11:32.37 | Kaso | its like crusader but the proc gives agi and attack speed |
| 11:32.42 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm... |
| 11:32.50 | Kaso | more expensive though |
| 11:32.53 | JunkHead-Work | Attack speed would be cool since it's a slow ass turd weapon. |
| 11:33.01 | Kaso | its a proc enchant however |
| 11:33.27 | JunkHead-Work | Hmm... |
| 11:34.03 | Kaso | Also im not really sure about holy pallys, how much of your damage comes from physical and how much from spells? |
| 11:35.10 | JunkHead-Work | sec. |
| 11:36.17 | JunkHead-Work | Well, I can say that my Mace hits for ~100 dmg, with a speed of 1.80 |
| 11:36.32 | JunkHead-Work | I usually use Seal of Vengeance because fights take so long. |
| 11:36.41 | JunkHead-Work | I'm not sure how much damage each tick does though. |
| 11:37.06 | JunkHead-Work | One sec I'll link Armory. |
| 11:37.15 | Kaso | not that much use to me |
| 11:37.17 | Kaso | run sw_stats, go kill a few mobs, and see what the "Damage type" for yourself is. |
| 11:37.19 | VoiDRaider | What's faster in performance terms using "self" or using the table explicitly ? |
| 11:37.33 | JunkHead-Work | Ok. I'll do that when I get home then. |
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| 11:38.08 | VoiDRaider | Or there's no difference ? |
| 11:38.40 | JoshBorke | VoiDRaider: self is being passed to the function so it'll be a local value |
| 11:38.59 | VoiDRaider | ah thanks :) |
| 11:39.14 | JoshBorke | yep yep |
| 11:41.21 | VoiDRaider | :D |
| 11:43.05 | Kaso | why the hell cant i make fubar take up the entire width of my window |
| 11:43.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Whisperwind&n=Balynevia |
| 11:44.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think this guy's gear just made my brain hurt |
| 11:44.47 | krka | VoiDRaider: other interesting fact: using : instead of . in method calls is more efficient |
| 11:45.15 | VoiDRaider | Hmm say I want to have a local function and I don't want to call the table explicitly what can I do then ? as I cannot use "self" in locals, well I can pass it or make a local variable to have a reference to the table or there's a better way ? :) |
| 11:46.08 | VoiDRaider | oh I didn't know that! that's really interesting, where can I read about it ? |
| 11:46.20 | JoshBorke | pass self |
| 11:46.32 | VoiDRaider | ok great :P |
| 11:47.29 | VoiDRaider | Well I always use : but I would like to know the reason :P |
| 11:48.08 | JunkHead-Work | I used to play on Whisperwind. |
| 11:50.38 | krka | lua has a special opcode for doing (exp):method() type calls |
| 11:51.01 | krka | so it does both the table lookup for the method and pushes (exp) as the first argument |
| 11:51.15 | krka | so it's slightly faster than (exp).method(exp) |
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| 12:02.49 | Mikk | Kaso: Hmmm I had that too for a while.. Don't remember exactly what I did to fix it.. flip resolution i think |
| 12:07.36 | Kaso | thats a pain, i'll have a poke around |
| 12:09.09 | foxlit | <Mr_Rabies2> http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Whisperwind&n=Balynevia |
| 12:09.12 | foxlit | wtf, 4k hp!~ |
| 12:10.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Onyxia&n=Bloodnutz |
| 12:11.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | god.... i hate the average wow player with a burning passion normally reserved for war criminals |
| 12:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out this guy's spec: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shadow+Council&n=Anthrox |
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| 12:18.15 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 12:19.16 | nevcairiel | how can he even play like that |
| 12:19.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzS7P8-sSeQ ...dear god...it's like a non-parody version of alamo |
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| 12:22.38 | Bleeter | I'm more stunned by that lock's +dodge trinket :/ |
| 12:23.45 | haste | Mr_Rabies2: haha, he applied to my guild :D |
| 12:23.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | who? |
| 12:24.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | the guy in the video? |
| 12:24.08 | haste | the author of that video |
| 12:24.13 | Bleeter | nah, the lock with the freakazoid talents |
| 12:24.23 | Mikk | well, the dodge trinket theoretically MIGHT help... somehow |
| 12:24.25 | Bleeter | oh, sorry, you were asking hast |
| 12:24.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=The+Underbog&n=Omorang /cry |
| 12:24.27 | Mikk | check out the 2nd trinket though |
| 12:24.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have to stop reading these threads |
| 12:24.33 | Mikk | smoking fucking heart of the mountain? |
| 12:24.43 | Bleeter | aye |
| 12:24.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | they make me want to punch something :( |
| 12:25.31 | Bleeter | their face with your fist? |
| 12:25.42 | Mikk | "Hmm... all talent trees are good.. I'll get some from all.... Oh and resistances are good, I'll get some of those too.. OHYEAH and armor.. armor is good too. I'll get some of that ... Ohyeah, dodge too, tehre we go." |
| 12:26.03 | nevcairiel | lol mikk |
| 12:27.31 | Bleeter | on the subject of punching stuff... |
| 12:27.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd settle for prettty much anything to calm this burning desire to break something :[ |
| 12:27.42 | Bleeter | ... I think I'm gunna punch Mr_Rabies2 for posting that video's URL |
| 12:27.46 | Mikk | errr check out the right-hand side gear of that huntard you linked |
| 12:27.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep. |
| 12:27.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | no melee |
| 12:28.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh geez |
| 12:28.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought you meant |
| 12:28.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | ride hand slot |
| 12:28.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 12:28.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | so easy to find the botters :( |
| 12:28.57 | nevcairiel | ring of defense ftw |
| 12:29.42 | Bleeter | but it's BM hunter! don't need melee! that's what the pet's for! |
| 12:30.02 | Bleeter | and.. at a guess |
| 12:30.15 | Bleeter | ooh |
| 12:30.36 | Bleeter | I suspected the points in surv would be in hawk eye, even less of a reason for melee |
| 12:30.39 | Bleeter | but they aren't |
| 12:30.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wow |
| 12:30.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://wowbash.folke.fr/ |
| 12:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwahahaha |
| 12:32.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, i guess it would be better if it wasn't brand new :( |
| 12:32.57 | Bleeter | I can see that getting popular, and personal, rsn |
| 12:33.18 | Bleeter | I'm pissed I didn't get that gnome /say'ing gold spam in a screenie |
| 12:33.26 | Bleeter | was too busy laughing at them |
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| 12:54.21 | sysrage | wowbash is retarded. on 3 pages, not a single one was worth reading |
| 12:58.06 | Kaso | I think bash.org works cos most irc users are pretty smart (well, some..) |
| 12:58.12 | Kaso | whereas most wow users are retarded |
| 12:58.45 | Bleeter | Kaso: depends which network one frequents. Freenode is a *lot* smarter than most other IRC chans I've seen |
| 12:58.56 | Bleeter | s/chans/networks/ |
| 12:59.09 | Kaso | true indeed |
| 13:00.05 | amro | freenode has a higher ratio of developers |
| 13:00.43 | Bleeter | debian and gimp would also be pretty high |
| 13:01.41 | Bleeter | beyond those three, at least in global/US/LC=en, I think one might be scratching to find smart |
| 13:01.55 | amro | but you occasionally get people like http://www.pastey.net/42833 |
| 13:03.13 | Bleeter | end luser support... that shit happens. fairly indicative that most devs are so smart, even stupid people can find the IRC support chan ;) |
| 13:03.32 | Bleeter | er.. so smart they can even direct stupid |
| 13:03.41 | Bleeter | and on that rather sad ending, sleep time |
| 13:04.00 | Bleeter | (the irony of me messing stuff up is NOT lost ;-) |
| 13:06.34 | Kaso | Bleeter, the nessacity of finding/using an irc client does help buffer some of the really dumb lusers though :> |
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| 14:29.13 | zenzelezz | I have a feeling the E17 temperature sensor isn't reading my CPU temperature correctly, or not reading it at al... either that or I have the most stable CPU I've ever had, temperature-wise |
| 14:30.21 | zenzelezz | been at 40 degrees flat for days |
| 14:32.10 | haste | my old motherboard showed my CPU temperature as everything between -900 to +1400 |
| 14:32.37 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 14:33.27 | Thrae | Why do you care about CPU temperature? Are you overclocking? If so, get your own sensor. |
| 14:33.50 | zenzelezz | I remember I once started my computer with one of the old Athlon without a fan... the temperature hit 80 in no time |
| 14:34.10 | Thrae | AMD has fixed that problem with all later model Althons and chips that came after that. |
| 14:34.11 | zenzelezz | Thrae: the temperature meter is enabled by default in E17, it's eye candy :-( But no, I don't really care |
| 14:34.32 | zenzelezz | and I'm not critizising AMD, I've used them exclusively for years |
| 14:35.26 | Thrae | It implemented the same thing Intel has -- Speed Throttling. The CPU has its own rudementary temperature probe, and it'll tell the MB to go to lower speeds until it just shuts off. |
| 14:36.04 | zenzelezz | my wording might have been bad; it wasn't a fanless CPU, but I ran it without one for about 15 minutes after the fan died, to get online and order a new one |
| 14:36.05 | wobin | heehee |
| 14:36.20 | wobin | I remember when a friend of mine started his athalon up without the fan |
| 14:36.31 | Thrae | It's part of all modern Intel & AMD chipsets, it's just there in case of emergency. Overclocking, of course, will stop the throttling, but it won't stop the MB from switching off |
| 14:36.33 | wobin | *whirrrrrrrrrr---fzzzt* |
| 14:36.51 | zenzelezz | stop trying to make me look like a troll |
| 14:36.58 | Thrae | zenzelezz: Yeah, I'm just telling you that you don't have to worry nearly as much with modern AMDs, they fixed that problem a long time ago |
| 14:37.31 | Thrae | No no, I'm just trying to resolve a common misconception about AMDs. People remember their old products with no safeguards, and think the modern units might have the same problem. |
| 14:37.44 | zenzelezz | okay, I misread you then |
| 14:42.19 | Josh_Borke | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.02 | zenzelezz | yeah, once I found the right build order and got GTK2 to stop whining about some library =) |
| 14:47.22 | Josh_Borke | i can't seem to get it to build in rhel5 |
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| 14:48.14 | zenzelezz | any specific problem? |
| 14:49.35 | Josh_Borke | been a while, i don't remember |
| 14:49.42 | Josh_Borke | it had to do with some X stuff |
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| 15:13.23 | cogwheel|work | Silly belf... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1&pageNo=6#114 |
| 15:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol nice |
| 15:15.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Cogwheel strikes again |
| 15:16.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I did smile at the "karma has been fulfilled" post I read a while back, though. |
| 15:16.18 | cogwheel|work | hehe |
| 15:17.21 | zenzelezz | give him a break, he's 22 |
| 15:17.56 | cogwheel|work | I know the feeling... I didn't realize Sunder Armor could be applied more than once 'till I was almost 40 |
| 15:18.20 | foxlit | How does tinsert behave when you remove elements from the array? |
| 15:18.29 | cogwheel|work | O.o |
| 15:18.35 | cogwheel|work | that question messes with my head |
| 15:18.50 | foxlit | purl, fix cogwheel's head. |
| 15:18.53 | purl | ACTION opens the hood of cogwheel's head. , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
| 15:19.09 | zenzelezz | I was running out of interesting talents in Arms tree before I noticed Fury/Protection |
| 15:20.44 | cogwheel|work | foxlit: srsly, though, I can't understand what you're asking... tinsert behaves exactly as it would given the current state of the array |
| 15:23.03 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: if you remove an entry in the middle of an integer indexed array, you cut the size of the array down |
| 15:25.25 | foxlit | t = {1,2,3,4,5}; t[2] = nil; tinsert(t, 6); print(table.concat(t, " | ")); |
| 15:26.56 | cogwheel|work | you should be using tremove instead of setting it to nil |
| 15:27.17 | cogwheel|work | Lua's behavior is essentially undefined when there are nils in an array |
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| 15:42.03 | foxlit | I'd describe it something like this: while the final element of the array, t[#t] exists, tinsert inserts at t[#t+1]. If the final element is set to nil, tinsert inserts at first non-defined index |
| 15:43.14 | cogwheel|work | But here's the thing... if you have a nil in there, #t won't necessarily mean the end of the array |
| 15:43.20 | cogwheel|work | as you know it |
| 15:43.40 | cogwheel|work | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.5 |
| 15:43.44 | Josh_Borke | where's cide... |
| 15:44.16 | cogwheel|work | /target Cide |
| 15:44.21 | cogwheel|work | /cast Ritual of Summoning |
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| 15:44.53 | Josh_Borke | cogwheel|work: ew, "any such nil value as the end of the array" |
| 15:44.56 | Josh_Borke | that's ugly |
| 15:45.01 | Josh_Borke | i would have guessed it to be the first one |
| 15:45.30 | cogwheel|work | like I said, you're not supposed to set elements to nil if you're treating it as an array :P |
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| 16:10.11 | Nom- | epic ! |
| 16:10.15 | Kaydeethree | huzzah... f7's been released. guess it's time to finally upgrade from fc5 |
| 16:10.16 | Nom- | first takedown of high king! |
| 16:10.24 | Kaydeethree | grats! |
| 16:10.40 | Nom- | We got him to 1% earlier on |
| 16:10.42 | Nom- | and wiped :( |
| 16:10.46 | Nom- | but we finally nailed him |
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| 16:10.56 | Kaydeethree | that's a fun fight |
| 16:10.58 | Kaydeethree | <-- mage tank |
| 16:11.41 | Nom- | <--- paladin healbot |
| 16:11.57 | Nom- | that was pretty easy once we got all the adds down |
| 16:11.59 | sysrage | still trying to get my stam set up to be mage tank. what are your unbuffed HP at when in stam gear? |
| 16:12.14 | Nom- | well our mage had 14.9k fully buffed |
| 16:12.26 | Nom- | you don't need any spell damage gear...just wear green 'of stamina' items |
| 16:12.45 | Kaydeethree | meh, I can almost tank in my dps gear with 10k hp raidbuffed |
| 16:12.59 | Kaydeethree | my stam gear's got a little over 9k unbuffed, ~12k buffed |
| 16:13.16 | sysrage | ok. i'll ditch dam.. but don't i want a decent amount of int so i don't run out of mana? or is that not a problem either? |
| 16:13.38 | Kaydeethree | I've got 10k mana in my stam gear, no problem |
| 16:13.45 | Kaydeethree | just pop an evo shortly after the mage is dead |
| 16:13.48 | Nom- | you do need to have some mana too |
| 16:14.02 | Kaydeethree | most of my stuff is "of the eagle" |
| 16:14.02 | Nom- | you gotta be able to keep spell stealing and beat the healing aggro |
| 16:14.08 | Nom- | so you gotta hve some heals |
| 16:14.12 | Nom- | err mana i mean |
| 16:14.28 | End | having a mage tank that guy is definitely something that makes that fight unique |
| 16:14.33 | sysrage | okie |
| 16:14.39 | sysrage | it's damn cool i think, End |
| 16:14.40 | Nom- | hmmm anyone noticed pitbull causing lag? |
| 16:14.42 | End | wel, besides mages who pull aggro and get one shotted on other things ;p |
| 16:14.44 | Kaydeethree | hardly. I all-out nuke. probably take off 50k hp all by myself before ranged gets to me |
| 16:14.54 | Nom- | i was noticing my client freezing up every 1-2 seconds (especially when i died) |
| 16:15.05 | Nom- | it locked up for nearly 10 seconds when i died |
| 16:15.13 | Nom- | as soon as i was out of raid it was fine |
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| 16:15.29 | sysrage | chatthrottlelib was doing that to me right after patch, but it's fixed now |
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| 16:16.16 | Nom- | hmm i haven't updated yet |
| 16:16.21 | Nom- | since the hotfix |
| 16:16.24 | Nom- | maybe that's it |
| 16:17.41 | Nom- | ah well, we're going to farm high king for a couple of weeks until we go it down perfect, looking forward to getting my T4 shoulders :) |
| 16:17.50 | Nom- | i coulda had them tonight, but i did an epic roll |
| 16:17.52 | Nom- | (12) |
| 16:18.25 | Kaydeethree | gah. I wasted my perfect roll last night deciding who had to buff 2 groups instead of just 1 |
| 16:18.31 | Thrae | It would be cool if people wrote in their own quick poll into their addons and libs, to see if something is taking waaaay longer then it should. That stuff is very hard to track, anyway. A quick GetTime() at the beginning and "if (GetTime() - beginning) > averageTimeMax then ThrowSpeedException(func) end" at the end could do it. |
| 16:18.53 | Thrae | Only needed for complex addons and libs, like ChatThrottleLib. |
| 16:19.47 | cogwheel|work | or just use coroutines :P |
| 16:20.05 | Nom- | cool almost all ace addons had updates |
| 16:20.07 | Nom- | so i'll try that |
| 16:20.39 | Thrae | cogwheel|work: Better to just fix whatever's slowing it down ;) |
| 16:20.40 | cogwheel|work | I get some very annoying (we're talking > 1 minute) freezes when I first open a trade skill because of some problem with a couple profession scanning mods I have |
| 16:20.57 | Nom- | cool well i better get off to bed |
| 16:20.59 | Nom- | work in the AM |
| 16:21.12 | nevcairiel | ive had that with ATSW cog |
| 16:21.15 | Thrae | Yeah, but even with all those scanning mods, there ARE ways to optimize it. Using a coroutine is just kinda dodging the problem with your algorithmn. |
| 16:21.38 | Nom- | http://hoofshots.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1215&d=1149869460 <-- lol @ CoH |
| 16:21.55 | Nom- | and with that, i'm off |
| 16:22.38 | cogwheel|work | Actually, a lot of the APIs themselves are quite slow... Not saying there isn't room for improvement, but I'd rather have it take longer to do the scanning while still allowing me to chat, walk around, etc. than to completely freeze like that |
| 16:23.18 | sysrage | wouldn't building a poll into addons to see what's taking so long just make them use more memory and take even longer? ;) |
| 16:24.46 | Thrae | sysrage: Using CPU Profiling would, but adding two GetTime() statements, one local, and a branch would be adding extremely minimal overhead to complex situations. |
| 16:25.12 | sysrage | hence the wink. was kinda just giving you a hard time |
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| 16:26.52 | Thrae | http://lolcode.com/ for those that have still not seen it. |
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| 16:28.49 | nevcairiel | i should write that stupid university task in lolcode instead of delphi .. wonder what they would say :P |
| 16:29.08 | Thrae | If they give you the choice of any programming language ever, why not? |
| 16:29.23 | nevcairiel | they enforce delphi |
| 16:29.26 | nevcairiel | which sucks bad. |
| 16:30.01 | zenzelezz | yay for 10-second lag spikes on heroic bosses |
| 16:30.02 | nevcairiel | the language itself is "ok" .. but the IDE is so damn bugged and slow .. |
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| 16:55.23 | TC-Working | . . . . . . |
| 16:57.09 | cogwheel|work | delphi = borland? |
| 16:57.13 | Shirik | BAM! |
| 16:57.20 | Shirik | I just caused my own critical error >.> |
| 16:57.25 | cogwheel|work | gratz! |
| 16:57.28 | sysrage | used to be borland. dunno if it still is |
| 16:57.29 | Shirik | by doing /script VFL.print(RDX.Encode(assert(loadstring("return {"..string.rep("1,",10000).." 2}"))())) |
| 16:57.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:57.32 | Kaydeethree | what do you win? |
| 16:57.40 | Shirik | I win a full rewrite of RDX.Encode! |
| 16:57.46 | sysrage | people still use delphi? lol |
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| 17:05.24 | nevcairiel | are forced to use it by our university .. stupid them! and yes, its borland |
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| 17:09.19 | Shirik | lol borland |
| 17:09.24 | Shirik | I remember when I had to use borland C++ |
| 17:09.27 | Shirik | I wanted to shoot myself |
| 17:13.58 | cogwheel|work | I remember when I prefered borland C++ :\ |
| 17:14.04 | Shirik | ow |
| 17:14.11 | Shirik | I never did |
| 17:14.13 | Shirik | I had VS before Borland |
| 17:14.21 | Shirik | well, at the time, VC++ |
| 17:14.51 | cogwheel|work | I went the other way... I was young and borland came with a Learn C++ book so it's what I got used to |
| 17:15.09 | wereHamster | I know only C++, what's the difference to Borland C++ or VC++? |
| 17:15.16 | Shirik | the language isn't different |
| 17:15.19 | Shirik | the IDE is |
| 17:15.39 | Shirik | well |
| 17:15.42 | cogwheel|work | actually, VC++ 6 had much better ANSI/ISO C++ than borland |
| 17:15.45 | Shirik | barring a few proprietary things |
| 17:15.55 | Shirik | I did like borland's gotoxy() |
| 17:16.06 | Shirik | cogwheel|work: But don't forget |
| 17:16.13 | Shirik | for (int x = 1; x < 5; x++) |
| 17:16.19 | Shirik | x isn't local to for in VC++ 6 >.> |
| 17:16.21 | Shirik | that pissed me off so much |
| 17:17.10 | wereHamster | Shirik, that's against the c99 standart, right? |
| 17:17.13 | Shirik | ayup |
| 17:17.25 | Shirik | luckily it's fixed now |
| 17:18.09 | wereHamster | it amazes me that gcc still uses c89 by default, you have to explicitely enable c99 on the comamndline :( |
| 17:18.33 | Shirik | anyone want to look at my serialization function and offer suggestions on how to handle anything over 5000 elements? (Which, btw, is crashing WoW atm) |
| 17:18.45 | Shirik | I'm surprised it causes a crash |
| 17:19.10 | wereHamster | 132? |
| 17:19.19 | Shirik | it doesn't say any error number |
| 17:19.40 | wereHamster | dies it display the error message window? |
| 17:19.43 | Shirik | I can't go back to it anymore cause I temporarily threw in an error() call |
| 17:19.47 | Shirik | yeah the WoWError thing? |
| 17:19.48 | Shirik | it does |
| 17:20.09 | Shirik | is there a log somewhere? |
| 17:20.11 | Shirik | maybe I can get it for you |
| 17:20.38 | Shirik | ah found it |
| 17:21.26 | Shirik | error: http://wowi.pastey.net/46981 |
| 17:23.08 | Shirik | And for anyone that wants to offer suggestions, http://wowi.pastey.net/46983 |
| 17:23.23 | Shirik | Take note aside from the error() call and "TODO" message, that's all written by Cidan, so any stupidities in there is his fault not mine :P |
| 17:23.26 | Shirik | I almost tore it down |
| 17:23.50 | Shirik | oh and the "BUGFIX" part |
| 17:23.50 | wereHamster | OOM? |
| 17:23.50 | Shirik | ya |
| 17:23.52 | Shirik | but I would have expected a Lua error more than a crash |
| 17:24.16 | wereHamster | these thinsg are called 'bugs' ;) |
| 17:24.29 | Shirik | yeah well, it's kinda my fault :P |
| 17:24.34 | Shirik | I wouldn't entirely call it a bug |
| 17:24.39 | cogwheel|work | it is |
| 17:24.45 | cogwheel|work | wow shouldn't be crashing due to a lua error |
| 17:25.11 | cogwheel|work | I'd post about it on the bug reports forum, tbh |
| 17:25.25 | Shirik | ok I'll do that when I get back :) Have to talk to my professor real quick so |
| 17:25.36 | Shirik | if you have any suggestions on how to fix it anyway, let me know I'm listening :) Be back in about 15 |
| 17:32.26 | Pac2722 | i hear there is a mod or some this that can toun a guest pass into a fhull acc with out paying for the full game any1 know of this? |
| 17:32.26 | foxlit | purl, eat Pac2722 |
| 17:32.38 | purl | ACTION eats Pac2722 and falls over dead |
| 17:32.38 | Pac2722 | wats that? |
| 17:32.38 | TC-Working | Gates & Jobs @ D5 http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid452319854/bctid958634947 |
| 17:33.51 | Pac2722 | lol |
| 17:34.10 | Pac2722 | so i guess no1 know then |
| 17:34.42 | foxlit | I guess you shouldn't be trying to get something for nothing? |
| 17:34.57 | TC-Working | we call it theft in these here parts |
| 17:35.08 | Shadowed | I'm trying to decode what he said still |
| 17:35.19 | TC-Working | trial acct --> full act |
| 17:35.20 | foxlit | Dunno, contract violation maybe. |
| 17:35.23 | TC-Working | w/o paying |
| 17:35.44 | foxlit | Since theft sort of involves depriving someone of something. |
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| 17:36.36 | Pac2722 | yer i know it's just that i was told it can b done & didnt know if that was right |
| 17:37.49 | Pac2722 | well we pay a lot to play so y not get some thing for nothing |
| 17:38.21 | TC-Working | well if you are geting something for nothing then you are not paying |
| 17:39.26 | Pac2722 | u would have to pay a month to month tho just geting the game for free would b good |
| 17:39.38 | Shadowed | oh |
| 17:40.10 | Shadowed | Wasn't there a way to upgrade from a Trial account to a full account? |
| 17:41.11 | Pac2722 | yer there is but i was told there was a way to do it for free a nod or some thing |
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| 17:41.40 | Shadowed | Theres no mod that does it, try checking the Blizzard site under the account area, i'm pretty sure they had a way to do it |
| 17:42.05 | Pac2722 | k thnx |
| 17:42.05 | foxlit | You need to buy a physical copy of WoW and TBC to active another account |
| 17:42.13 | foxlit | https://signup.worldofwarcraft.com/menu.html |
| 17:42.19 | foxlit | "Guest Pass" Customers - Click the button below to continue your existing account by entering a retail box authentication key. |
| 17:42.47 | Pac2722 | lol k thnx |
| 17:42.56 | foxlit | See also http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowbilling/?id=abl01920p - At this time we do not offer Authentication Keys separate from its physical packaging as this would sever its tie to a real-world product. |
| 17:43.02 | Shadowed | eh |
| 17:44.22 | Shadowed | didn't they add a way to buy just the key for TBC |
| 17:44.22 | Pac2722 | some 1 would have come up with a way around that by now |
| 17:44.23 | foxlit | There's no way to go around server-side checks on the nature of your account. None. Don't try. |
| 17:44.23 | Pac2722 | k |
| 17:44.23 | foxlit | Shadowed: not quite; they sell the key + files download, but I presume the contractual agreement is still valid since they force you to buy WoW vanilla retail. |
| 17:44.31 | Shadowed | oh yea that |
| 17:45.25 | Shirik | 13:30:10 ‹Pac2722› i hear there is a mod or some this that can toun a guest pass into a fhull acc with out paying for the full game any1 know of this? |
| 17:45.31 | Shirik | o.o |
| 17:46.22 | foxlit | If you actually search for the name, the question reappears a few times |
| 17:47.58 | TC-Working | cant you purchase a digital DL of BC though? |
| 17:48.06 | TC-Working | nvm |
| 17:48.14 | TC-Working | missed the other part |
| 17:50.14 | Pac2722 | o well back to the game im lvl60 now |
| 17:51.38 | Kaydeethree | ok, that was random. as I turned in A Slow Death up at base camp, a vilewing chimera spawned on me |
| 17:51.40 | Kaydeethree | odd |
| 17:55.57 | Arrowmaster | lol that does sound random |
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| 18:26.38 | Shadowed | bah |
| 18:26.43 | Shadowed | they didn't fix AGP Aperture error |
| 18:26.59 | Shadowed | instead of crashing after like 20, it crashes after 30 now |
| 18:28.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 18:38.48 | Shirik | rofl |
| 18:39.39 | Josh_Borke | rofl |
| 18:39.47 | cogwheel|work | i hope someone's keeping logs of #lua >< |
| 18:40.29 | Shirik | I log all chat ^^ |
| 18:40.34 | Josh_Borke | I log all chat ^^ |
| 18:40.47 | Shadowed | Why whats happening |
| 18:40.51 | Mikma | I never log chat ^^ |
| 18:41.19 | cogwheel|work | Shadowed: some idiot joined and asked "Is lua more powerfull than Python" hilarity ensued |
| 18:41.27 | Shadowed | lol |
| 18:41.46 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.49 | Shirik | so the lua interpreter has no problem with my /script VFL.print(RDX.Encode(assert(loadstring("return {"..string.rep("1,",10000).." 2}"))())) |
| 18:46.52 | Shirik | but WoW does :( |
| 18:47.04 | Shirik | granted that's a ton of memory.. |
| 18:48.21 | krka | i log all chat too |
| 18:48.31 | krka | all your cyber invitations are belong to me |
| 18:49.35 | Pac2722 | i would like a lot of wow gold |
| 18:49.56 | Kaydeethree | pick a faction, grind to exalted |
| 18:50.35 | TC-Working | i hate pug's i remembered again why i dont do groups |
| 18:51.13 | TC-Working | s/ipug's i/pug's, i/ |
| 18:51.26 | TC-Working | meh |
| 18:51.32 | Shirik | you fail at the typing |
| 18:51.36 | TC-Working | so i see |
| 18:51.40 | Shirik | 14:49:13 ‹Pac2722› i would like a lot of wow gold |
| 18:51.43 | Shirik | I know a script to help you |
| 18:52.13 | Shirik | do /script a = function(a) coroutine.wrap(a)(a) end; a(a) |
| 18:52.21 | Shirik | will give you infinite golds |
| 18:52.32 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 18:53.25 | cogwheel|work | I actually started a money making guide a while back... http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/cogs-money.html |
| 18:53.26 | cogwheel|work | (wow... it's been almost a year) |
| 18:55.04 | Shirik | I need something approximately $5 so I don't have to pay for shipping of clad|sleep's book |
| 18:55.06 | Shirik | anyone have ideas? |
| 18:55.26 | cogwheel|work | a novel, perhaps? |
| 18:55.44 | cogwheel|work | they make great decorations |
| 18:55.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:55.56 | cogwheel|work | (I think you can even read them too) |
| 18:58.48 | cogwheel|work | haha: "After all, most users don't know or care whether their computer has a 65nm dual-core CPU or a tiny midget wizard squatting in their cases." |
| 19:00.54 | amro | wizards are so 90s. get a magical hamster |
| 19:02.14 | zenzelezz | Harvey, Harvey! Harvey the Wonder Hamster |
| 19:02.40 | zenzelezz | (he doesn't bite, and he doesn't squeal, he just runs around on his hamster wheel) |
| 19:03.17 | Pac2722 | 3gig Dual-core 64bit here |
| 19:04.08 | Pac2722 | my Squeal's x2 then i guess |
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| 19:06.32 | Guillotine | Shirik: where do you get clad's book? Whats the name? |
| 19:06.49 | Shirik | book is called "Hacking World of Warcraft" and it's available at Amazon |
| 19:07.01 | zenzelezz | amg haxxor |
| 19:08.23 | Guillotine | imo, they shouldn't have used the word 'hacking'. While all of us know what it really means, most people associate it with cheating |
| 19:08.27 | Elkano | well, it' only part of the "Hacking <whatever>" series ;) |
| 19:09.56 | Guillotine | I know :P |
| 19:14.40 | Cairenn | http://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Warcraft-ExtremeTech-Daniel-Gilbert/dp/0470110023/ref=sr_11_1/002-4963742-3034431?ie=UTF8&qid=1180631990&sr=11-1 |
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| 19:22.49 | TC-Working | cheapst at amazon at $20 |
| 19:23.44 | TC-Working | $10 says we find an error |
| 19:24.30 | cogwheel|work | I'm sure there are plenty ... esp. since the patch... :P |
| 19:24.45 | TC-Working | i was refering to gramatical |
| 19:24.51 | TC-Working | more than scripting |
| 19:25.42 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10302 |
| 19:26.40 | TC-Working | it's avaliable more than at amazon Cairenn |
| 19:27.00 | Cairenn | that was a link I was given by the publishers |
| 19:27.14 | TC-Working | figures...ok |
| 19:27.57 | Cairenn | I've changed it to "amongst other places" |
| 19:28.59 | Josh_Borke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 19:29.31 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn |
| 19:29.32 | Josh_Borke | i don't hug cairenn, i get grabby |
| 19:29.38 | Cairenn | *chuckle* |
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| 19:31.10 | TC-Working | dang it, it wont let me ad info inside a quote and post it :( |
| 19:35.33 | cogwheel|work | did the hamsters @ worldofwarcraft.com just die for anyone else? |
| 19:35.53 | Josh_Borke | ~seen warla |
| 19:36.32 | purl | warla <i=Darky28@153.220.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowroster, 144d 23h 48m 13s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 19:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel|work, yeah |
| 19:36.57 | TC-Working | 144 days...nice |
| 19:37.08 | cogwheel|work | I noticed the forums started getting sluggish and thought to myself "Did blizzard just announce something or is there something wrong with the realms"... finally got the general forum to load and saw QUrgent Rolling Restarts - 5/31" |
| 19:37.13 | cogwheel|work | s/Q/"/ |
| 19:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc|Work, I've got an annoying bug in Sanity2. Ping back if it isn't the "I'm only going to count the stack closest to 0,0 in my bags" bug (as I have a bit more detail) |
| 19:37.41 | Antiarc|Work | ScytheBlade1: Fire away :) |
| 19:38.00 | Antiarc|Work | There are a number of standing bugs, but I've, uh, been distracted with another project. |
| 19:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc|Work, it's only counting the stack closest to slot 0 in the backpack, or if you have a stack in your bank, it counts the stack closest to slot 0 in your bank too. |
| 19:38.28 | Antiarc|Work | Right, know about that one. |
| 19:38.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly, it'll count one stack in the bank, bags, and mail |
| 19:38.34 | ScytheBlade1 | But only one stack |
| 19:38.36 | Antiarc|Work | I even know where the bug is, I just haven't gotten around to fixing it. |
| 19:38.37 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah. |
| 19:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | k, just making sure |
| 19:39.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It's... somewhat agitating at times only seeing that you have ten of an item in your bank, when you have several hundred. ;) |
| 19:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Just being a good little user and reporting what bugs I find. :) |
| 19:40.33 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks :D |
| 19:44.37 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol "hacking world of warcraft" wut a title :P |
| 19:45.14 | Guillotine | ~seen Shouryuu |
| 19:46.44 | purl | shouryuu <n=Shouryuu@146.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 352d 23h 29m 21s ago, saying: 'Best wishes to you all'. |
| 19:46.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | but im glad they did it since documentation how ti write an addon is realy hard to find took me days to find a how to write your first addon page |
| 19:46.44 | Cairenn | he's never around any more Guillotine :( |
| 19:46.44 | Guillotine | Cairenn: I know :( |
| 19:46.45 | Cairenn | he was a very amusing troll |
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| 19:46.46 | Goon | hello? |
| 19:46.46 | cogwheel|work | yes? |
| 19:46.46 | Goon | i gotta question about auctionner...can someone help? |
| 19:47.23 | Guillotine | #norganna would probably be better, but we can try |
| 19:47.23 | Goon | ok, its my saved variables file |
| 19:47.24 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 19:47.38 | Cairenn | hahahaha |
| 19:47.39 | Cairenn | http://wow.allakhazam.com/mediabox/eeeew.jpg |
| 19:47.51 | Goon | its almost full...can i just delete some of the files to free up some room? |
| 19:49.07 | Guillotine | Goon: you can't just delete 'some of the files'. You could just restart all your data though |
| 19:49.16 | Guillotine | it might actually be useful since so many prices have changed with 2.1 anyway though |
| 19:49.19 | Goon | ok, sweet....how!? haha |
| 19:50.22 | cogwheel|work | Goon: auctioneer's website has a FAQ about the constant limit |
| 19:51.55 | cogwheel|work | http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/FAQ#other_issues_auctioneer_related Q12 |
| 19:53.02 | Goon | thanks so much! |
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| 20:12.38 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk -_- |
| 20:16.27 | cladhaire | Guillotine: Yeah, sorry aboutthe title but its part of that series of books |
| 20:16.37 | cladhaire | Guillotine: but Its not a bad thing, in retrospect. |
| 20:17.08 | Guillotine | I'm not opposed to it at all. I just think for marketing its probably not the greatest. Not your choice, its whoever made the series |
| 20:17.18 | Guillotine | all of it sounds pretty bad to the average user "Hacking Windows Vista" |
| 20:17.30 | Guillotine | obviously people who already know a fair bit know what it really means, but... |
| 20:18.58 | cladhaire | "Hacking Firefox" |
| 20:18.59 | cladhaire | etc |
| 20:19.16 | cladhaire | well, it gets the right audience tho |
| 20:19.17 | cladhaire | the kid who plays will pick it up and see what it is |
| 20:19.24 | cladhaire | and those who think the title is BAD will pick it up to see what it is. |
| 20:19.36 | Shirik | and the script kiddies will lose out on $30 |
| 20:19.42 | Shirik | and I'll be happy that they're out of that $30 |
| 20:19.47 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.53 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 20:20.04 | cladhaire | trust me, I fought the fight |
| 20:20.12 | cladhaire | but in the end, I think it'll attract the right crown |
| 20:20.12 | Pac2722 | $30 for an online book?? |
| 20:20.30 | Shirik | well first off it's cheaper than that but |
| 20:20.41 | Shirik | what's the difference between buying it from amazon and buying it from borders? |
| 20:21.29 | cladhaire | Where is it available online? |
| 20:21.35 | Shirik | amazon? |
| 20:21.35 | cladhaire | or are you not saying as an e-book? |
| 20:21.39 | cladhaire | its 19.99 on amazon.com |
| 20:21.40 | Shirik | nono |
| 20:22.00 | Shirik | print copy available online |
| 20:22.02 | Shirik | like |
| 20:22.04 | Shirik | it gets shipped to you |
| 20:22.20 | cladhaire | in a book |
| 20:22.23 | cladhaire | like on amazon.com? |
| 20:22.24 | Shirik | ya |
| 20:22.29 | cladhaire | well its only 19.99 |
| 20:22.34 | cladhaire | which is $10 off list |
| 20:22.35 | cladhaire | so :P |
| 20:22.37 | Shirik | yeah I just threw a number off that |
| 20:22.50 | Shirik | so I was right ^^ |
| 20:24.29 | Kaydeethree | hah... nothing like seeing a bugged dragonmaw transporter swimming in the air |
| 20:25.19 | foxlit | Who is the book aimed at, anyway? :) |
| 20:25.31 | cladhaire | everyone in your guild |
| 20:25.34 | cladhaire | and beginning authors. |
| 20:25.40 | cladhaire | and i mean that quite seriously |
| 20:26.00 | cladhaire | the only people its not good for, are the people who have already released 3-4 addons, and don't want a reference manual for the macro system in print. |
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| 20:26.50 | foxlit | No API docs? |
| 20:26.53 | Xenok | How make it so I can cast a spell with a button in a window I make? (need help making the button too :P ) |
| 20:26.59 | Xenok | wow i havn't been here in a while |
| 20:27.08 | Shirik | Xenok: You need to create a secure button |
| 20:27.10 | Guillotine | Xenok: secure frames |
| 20:27.11 | cladhaire | foxlit: they'd be out of date the second we printed them |
| 20:27.15 | Xenok | hmm |
| 20:27.18 | cladhaire | and the wiki isn't even up to date right now. |
| 20:27.24 | Shirik | set the attribute "type" to "spell" and the attribute "spell" to whatever spell you want |
| 20:27.27 | foxlit | Wiki's relatively fine |
| 20:27.36 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire, does it teach the XML and actual UI aspects of addons? |
| 20:27.43 | Xenok | ty shirik.. I THINK I can do that |
| 20:27.48 | foxlit | Although, yes, it lacks stuff added in 2.0/2.1 |
| 20:28.10 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: You complete two full scale addons from scratch |
| 20:28.18 | cladhaire | it goes through what XML does, what Lua does |
| 20:28.21 | cladhaire | and you write two addons |
| 20:28.34 | cladhaire | it doesn't cover dynamic frame creation, cause that would have taken another 2 chapters |
| 20:28.35 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire, that consist of what? I've released four addons, but none of them actually do anything of value as far as a GUI goes. That's what I'm interested in. |
| 20:28.51 | Guillotine | same here. my GUI is always hacked together :P |
| 20:29.00 | foxlit | Build me a GUI! |
| 20:29.01 | cladhaire | well, you make a small draggable coordinate frame |
| 20:29.02 | Guillotine | or I steal a blizzard frame and edit it |
| 20:29.04 | cladhaire | exactly like TomTom |
| 20:29.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I take that back. I released a square minimap mod, but... that's... horribly ugly code. |
| 20:29.10 | cladhaire | and add coordinates to the world map |
| 20:29.21 | cladhaire | that addon is called Whereabouts, and it contains a chapter on making a GUI for it |
| 20:29.30 | cladhaire | simple, small, and using default widgets |
| 20:29.50 | cladhaire | my addon, FocusFrame is a simple unit frame to display/target the focus unit |
| 20:29.52 | cladhaire | that you can drag around |
| 20:29.56 | cladhaire | both have slash commands |
| 20:30.00 | Guillotine | but nothing about making the complicated GUIs? (e.g. the type of thing Khaos and CT have) |
| 20:30.04 | cladhaire | so some of it may be review, some may be new material for you. |
| 20:30.19 | cladhaire | Guillotine: Well, how could we cover/write something like that, its just not feasible, unfortunately |
| 20:30.28 | cladhaire | But those are just based on the simple config GUI we use in Whereabouts., |
| 20:30.43 | zenzelezz | you're not a very good salesman, are you |
| 20:30.45 | Guillotine | lol |
| 20:30.46 | zenzelezz | "Everyone needs this" |
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| 20:31.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got the slash commands, all the lua and API knowledge needed. What would be incredible is a plain englieh "help me I'm a moron" (<--) explanation of the UI scaling system and secure headers system. |
| 20:31.05 | Shirik | "It even makes julian fries!" |
| 20:31.09 | cladhaire | i'm not here to sell a book |
| 20:31.09 | Shirik | "Do not break, see that?!" |
| 20:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | s/englieh/english/ |
| 20:31.20 | Shirik | yeah I'm the one who brought it up, not cladhaire |
| 20:31.41 | Guillotine | the UI scaling system is pretty simple |
| 20:31.44 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: there's a good one on th wiki that we link to acetually |
| 20:31.48 | foxlit | secure headers you can get from reading the related Lua files :) |
| 20:31.50 | Guillotine | best way to learn secure headers is reading the code from wdn |
| 20:32.01 | Guillotine | foxlit beat me :( |
| 20:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure, no doubt. Problem is, I lack the UI knowledge to apply the secure headers code. |
| 20:32.10 | cladhaire | I agree, that reference would be useful |
| 20:32.11 | foxlit | If I ever stop slacking and get this RSA/SHA stuff out the door, I'll fix wiki's docs |
| 20:32.16 | cladhaire | but its not in the book |
| 20:32.23 | Guillotine | Tem should write a book about "Crashing WoW" |
| 20:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I've read that code two or three times over, but it's meangless without the needed background knowledge |
| 20:32.32 | cladhaire | I'm not going to sit here and lie to you guys, telling you something is in the book, but it isn't. |
| 20:32.38 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Liar! ;) |
| 20:32.42 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: So take a simple example |
| 20:32.47 | cladhaire | the FocusFrame does it |
| 20:32.51 | cladhaire | it sets up clicking on the frame |
| 20:32.58 | cladhaire | a very basic example. |
| 20:33.06 | cladhaire | you can expand it from there by looking at what else is possible. |
| 20:33.11 | cladhaire | if you're talking SecureStateHeaders |
| 20:33.14 | cladhaire | that's a different story |
| 20:33.22 | ScytheBlade1 | All of the above. :) |
| 20:33.23 | cladhaire | and would take a good 8 chapters of material to be fully comprehensive. |
| 20:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Easily, no doubts there |
| 20:33.50 | cogwheel|work | ScytheBlade1: take a look at CogsBar v1.1 for a quick'n'dirty example of state headers (with lots of documentation in the code) |
| 20:33.59 | cladhaire | the entire .toc is available online |
| 20:34.05 | cladhaire | if you'd like to se whats there |
| 20:34.09 | cladhaire | the index and chapter one as well |
| 20:34.15 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire, I might. :) |
| 20:34.25 | cladhaire | http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470110023,descCd-tableOfContents.html |
| 20:34.28 | cladhaire | on the top right hand corner |
| 20:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel|work, that include the UI scaling stuff? |
| 20:34.32 | cladhaire | Chapter 1, .toc and index |
| 20:34.35 | cladhaire | in that order |
| 20:34.37 | cogwheel|work | ScytheBlade1: no |
| 20:34.38 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: UI scaling is very simple. |
| 20:34.45 | cladhaire | i can explain it now if you'd like. |
| 20:34.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Simple yes, but it still messes with my head |
| 20:34.52 | cladhaire | the UI is at scaling 1.0 to begin with |
| 20:34.56 | cladhaire | so we'll start there |
| 20:34.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Multiply going one way, divide going the other |
| 20:35.08 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 20:35.17 | cladhaire | that sounds like a very confusing way to think about it =) |
| 20:35.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ... to save the position/size of a frame |
| 20:35.21 | cladhaire | technically correct |
| 20:35.31 | cladhaire | to save the posoition of a frame, you use my code =) |
| 20:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I've seen in the UI source, anyways. |
| 20:35.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:36.13 | cladhaire | seriously tho |
| 20:36.17 | ScytheBlade1 | So it starts at 1.0 |
| 20:36.20 | cladhaire | i did the math so you don't have to |
| 20:36.21 | Kaydeethree | woo, my new raid card's here |
| 20:36.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I got that much :) |
| 20:36.25 | cladhaire | well the first thing to know |
| 20:36.26 | Guillotine | basically, look at the 'scale' as a percentage of the size the parent has. a scale of .8 means its 8-% the scale of the parent. if the parent is a scale of 50%, the effective scale is 40% |
| 20:36.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Right. |
| 20:36.37 | Guillotine | s/8-%/80% |
| 20:36.38 | cladhaire | is every single Ui in the game is one of two (or three) resolutions |
| 20:36.46 | cladhaire | a normal monitor is 1024x768 |
| 20:36.49 | cladhaire | no matter how big the monitor |
| 20:36.54 | cladhaire | no matter what the scaling |
| 20:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what's messing with me, the normalization of the sizes/pixels |
| 20:37.02 | cladhaire | the "UI" was 1024 pixels width, and 768 pixels wide. |
| 20:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | (As I play widescreen) |
| 20:37.08 | cladhaire | there's also a standard widescreen resolution |
| 20:37.14 | cladhaire | same aspect ratio |
| 20:37.34 | Shirik | yup, it messes with my head a little too, ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:37.38 | Shirik | but try not to think about it |
| 20:37.43 | cladhaire | scaling is just multiplicitive |
| 20:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. Which is what messes with me, as 1024x768 and widescreen resolutions have the same aspect ratio, despite... not having the same aspect ratio. |
| 20:37.53 | foxlit | Use BS numbers and pick what looks good :P |
| 20:37.56 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: =) |
| 20:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't get me wrong: it's all basic math... scaling is nothing new, but WoW's application of it and normalization of resolutions really just does me over. |
| 20:38.20 | cogwheel|work | Really? I thought it was simply normalized to a 768 pixel height regardless of the width... |
| 20:38.41 | cladhaire | cogwheel|work: it might be, I'd have to go look. |
| 20:38.48 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc cog is right |
| 20:38.50 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: it can be confusing, to be sure. |
| 20:38.57 | cladhaire | see i'm even confused right now |
| 20:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 20:39.05 | ScytheBlade1 | You see my problem. ;) |
| 20:39.17 | cladhaire | i remember researching it for the book |
| 20:39.21 | cladhaire | and having it correct in there. |
| 20:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice looking book if nothing else (from chapter one, anyways) |
| 20:42.52 | cladhaire | We tried =) |
| 20:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It really works well imo |
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| 20:48.22 | ScytheBlade1 | So random story. |
| 20:48.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I was sitting on my bank char in IF at 5:00 AM, by the mailbox, when he literally died. |
| 20:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | So I run back, res, and he dies again. |
| 20:49.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Turns out there was a level 59 warrior on top of a building next to the mailbox. |
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| 20:52.56 | foxlit | This, this bank char, yeah? |
| 20:53.04 | foxlit | pvp tagged in a capital city? |
| 20:54.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 20:54.58 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not every day there's a hordie sitting flagged in IF that's not getting ganked |
| 20:55.32 | ScytheBlade1 | So it was never a problem until now |
| 20:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Funny thing though. If I backed up enough, I had LoS and range. Turns out his shoot isn't all that deadly against a 70 mage. |
| 20:57.13 | Guillotine | lol |
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| 21:08.18 | Xenok | not fair: Conjure1:SetAttribute("unit", "player"); Conjure1:SetAttribute("type1", "spell"); Conjure1:SetAttribute("spell1", "Conjure Water Rank 1"); is what i need to make the button click right? I also have the button: inherits="SecureActionButtonTemplate" aswell |
| 21:08.34 | Xenok | gahh |
| 21:09.00 | foxlit | You have the wrong spellname |
| 21:09.03 | Xenok | doh |
| 21:09.18 | Xenok | Conjure Water: Rank 1 eh? |
| 21:09.30 | Kaydeethree | Conjure Water(Rank 1) |
| 21:09.31 | Shirik | no |
| 21:09.32 | Shirik | () |
| 21:09.36 | Xenok | ohhhhh im a freaking moron |
| 21:09.36 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:09.37 | Xenok | ty |
| 21:09.38 | Shirik | and why rank 1 btw? |
| 21:09.46 | Xenok | hmm |
| 21:09.51 | Kaydeethree | great for screwing with guildies during raid |
| 21:09.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:09.58 | Xenok | its a mod that manages your various conjures |
| 21:10.05 | Xenok | easier for conjuring for lowbies |
| 21:10.07 | Xenok | etc |
| 21:10.16 | Shirik | you know that you don't have to put the rank, right? |
| 21:10.20 | Shirik | or is that intentional |
| 21:10.21 | Xenok | do too |
| 21:10.21 | Shirik | just checking |
| 21:10.33 | Xenok | it is a button for each rank |
| 21:10.37 | Shirik | got it |
| 21:10.38 | Shirik | ok then |
| 21:10.38 | Xenok | there is* |
| 21:10.55 | Xenok | A friend of mine named it "Gatorade" rofl |
| 21:11.16 | Guillotine | are we still doing the even days-> alliance, odd days->horde on Draka? |
| 21:11.23 | Guillotine | or is anyone on draka at the moment? |
| 21:11.37 | Guillotine | I'm testing some stuff and don't want to be lonely :( |
| 21:11.59 | cogwheel|work | Why does the forum go through spurts where it randomly forgets your cookie every few minutes? |
| 21:12.13 | TC-Working | if you are planing on getting "Hacking World of Warcraft" take a look at the last post of http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=10302 |
| 21:15.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | Don't get PWN'D |
| 21:15.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | Write your own addons! |
| 21:15.17 | cladhaire | lolz |
| 21:15.20 | foxlit | macros! |
| 21:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, macros |
| 21:15.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 21:15.31 | foxlit | Cute but meh |
| 21:15.37 | foxlit | Can't pwn people that much with macros anymore |
| 21:15.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno man |
| 21:15.56 | cladhaire | you'd ve suprised. |
| 21:15.58 | cladhaire | =) |
| 21:15.58 | foxlit | Though /cast Switf Flight Form made netherwing flying quests easy :P |
| 21:16.00 | Shirik | castsequence Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire |
| 21:16.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably because i don't know lua but i can figure out the new format better |
| 21:16.06 | foxlit | cast Moonfire |
| 21:16.11 | Shirik | nah |
| 21:16.13 | Shirik | that's not complicated enough |
| 21:16.16 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:16.24 | foxlit | So |
| 21:16.25 | foxlit | Evil plan |
| 21:16.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wrote one for kitty form that does this |
| 21:16.35 | foxlit | Use NTFS symlinks to get entire music directory into WoW |
| 21:16.37 | Guillotine | I'll send $5 through Paypal to anyone that makes an addon that lets you use lolcode (lolcode.com) to write macros or scripts in WoW |
| 21:16.44 | Shirik | castsequence [harm] reset=target/shift Moonfire, Moonfire, Moonfire |
| 21:16.45 | foxlit | Anyone knows of anything that already does that? |
| 21:16.49 | Shirik | there. |
| 21:16.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast [stealth]Pounce |
| 21:17.01 | foxlit | Hm |
| 21:17.31 | foxlit | Guillotine: Can I transform it to Lua and run it that way? |
| 21:17.38 | Shirik | svn co |
| 21:17.40 | Shirik | oop |
| 21:17.50 | Guillotine | foxlit: sure. as long as I can write a script in lolcode and have it run |
| 21:17.56 | Shirik | do it! |
| 21:17.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | /castsequence [nostealth] reset=8 Faerie Fire (Feral)(Rank 5), Mangle (Cat)(Rank 3), Mangle (Cat)(Rank 3), Mangle (Cat)(Rank 3), Mangle (Cat)(Rank 3) |
| 21:18.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a fun macro |
| 21:18.08 | foxlit | You're forgetting () at the end! |
| 21:18.42 | foxlit | Is there a formal implementation or something? :) |
| 21:18.43 | Guillotine | foxlit: and you can come up with your own ideas and whatever for casting, ect. :P |
| 21:18.49 | Guillotine | e.g. ZOMGPEWPEW Moonfire(Rank 3) |
| 21:19.06 | Guillotine | actually, can't cast from scripts anyway |
| 21:19.08 | foxlit | MEOWLOLZ Pounce |
| 21:19.25 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.30 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.37 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.38 | Guillotine | ect. |
| 21:20.10 | Guillotine | actually, this wouldn't be all that hard |
| 21:20.19 | Guillotine | just using lots of string.match replaces |
| 21:20.20 | cladhaire | not in the least |
| 21:20.22 | Guillotine | to convert the string to lua |
| 21:20.44 | Guillotine | alright, thats my next project |
| 21:20.45 | foxlit | They do stuff like file ops |
| 21:20.54 | foxlit | You can't really replicate that in WoW-Lua |
| 21:20.55 | Guillotine | that way the common wow player can program >.> |
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| 21:21.11 | Guillotine | foxlit: ya, it wouldn't work |
| 21:21.18 | Guillotine | we can come up with our own version of lolcode though |
| 21:21.21 | Guillotine | chucknorisscode |
| 21:21.26 | foxlit | IM IN YR INVENTORY; SHARDING YOUR LOOTZ; |
| 21:21.31 | foxlit | IM OUTTA YR INVENTORY |
| 21:21.34 | Guillotine | lol |
| 21:22.08 | Xenok | Bah humbug... Conjure1:SetAttribute("unit", "player"); Conjure1:SetAttribute("type1", "spell"); Conjure1:SetAttribute("spell1", "Conjure Water(Rank 1)"); still not casting T_T |
| 21:22.38 | foxlit | Inhertiting from SecureActionButtonTemplate? |
| 21:22.45 | Xenok | think so.. lemme check |
| 21:22.51 | foxlit | Pretend I spelled inhereting correctly |
| 21:22.59 | Xenok | yes I am |
| 21:24.47 | foxlit | And you registered it for clicks? |
| 21:26.07 | Xenok | was afk |
| 21:26.22 | Xenok | I thinkkkk I figured out the problem XD |
| 21:26.25 | Xenok | hold on |
| 21:26.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 21:26.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | epic mounts are so slow now |
| 21:26.52 | Xenok | yes lol |
| 21:26.56 | Xenok | they are |
| 21:27.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtb flying mounts in azeroth |
| 21:27.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll overhaul azeroth for you for freeeee :x |
| 21:27.24 | Kaydeethree | meh. it's weird getting on a friend's account with a 60% mount and just going wow at how slow they are |
| 21:27.58 | TC-Working | is there a mod that gives you a drink button that throws in the highest lvl of drink you have into it with conjured > other? |
| 21:28.15 | Xenok | ./lost |
| 21:28.23 | Kaydeethree | autobar? cryolysis revived? |
| 21:29.50 | Xenok | now.. .how do I make sure I registered my button thing for clicks? :P |
| 21:29.51 | Xenok | the <OnClick> tab? |
| 21:29.51 | foxlit | Button:RegisterForClicks("Stuff") |
| 21:30.10 | foxlit | Where Stuff is "RightButtonUp", "LeftButtonUp" and so on |
| 21:30.31 | Xenok | Left button up eh? |
| 21:30.35 | Xenok | hmm |
| 21:30.36 | cladhaire | self:RegisterForClicks("AnyUp") |
| 21:30.40 | cladhaire | that will cover all mouse butons |
| 21:30.43 | Xenok | ah |
| 21:30.47 | TC-Working | thanks Kaydeethree |
| 21:30.49 | cladhaire | and is the proper syntax for an <OnClick> entry |
| 21:30.58 | Xenok | ill try it |
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| 21:33.15 | Xenok | still no :( It must be something super simple though lol |
| 21:33.23 | Shirik|Ecole | what's the problem? |
| 21:33.30 | Xenok | I still can't cast the darn thing |
| 21:33.37 | Shirik|Ecole | ok let me see your code |
| 21:34.16 | Xenok | uhh hold on |
| 21:34.16 | Shirik|Ecole | cladhaire: can I ask you a quick question? |
| 21:34.17 | cladhaire | absoltely |
| 21:34.21 | cladhaire | spelled correctly even! |
| 21:34.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I think Clique does this and I keep getting the same request >< |
| 21:34.41 | Shirik|Ecole | For mouse buttons 4 and 5, is it just "spell4" and "spell5" respectively? |
| 21:34.47 | Shirik|Ecole | and "type4" and "type5" |
| 21:35.09 | cladhaire | I believe so |
| 21:35.31 | cladhaire | that code's all astracted |
| 21:35.32 | cladhaire | hold on a sec |
| 21:35.32 | cladhaire | i'll check |
| 21:35.47 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah ours is too, probably not in the same way though. That's what I have now but it's not doing anything so I think I need to change something else in the descriptor too |
| 21:35.56 | cladhaire | yes |
| 21:35.58 | cladhaire | type5 |
| 21:36.00 | cladhaire | spell5 |
| 21:36.04 | Shirik|Ecole | (Cidan did this, so I have to learn his code all over again >.> ) |
| 21:36.05 | Shirik|Ecole | thanks |
| 21:36.12 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/47146 highlights ftw |
| 21:37.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Xenok: You should really abstract that code >< |
| 21:37.07 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:37.25 | Xenok | too lazy to figure that out |
| 21:38.32 | TC-Working | Kaydeethree, neither of those work, any others? |
| 21:38.38 | cogwheel|work | abstraction *is* laziness, imo |
| 21:38.51 | Shirik|Ecole | you do realize 554+ is capitalized wrong though right? |
| 21:38.52 | cogwheel|work | (in a good way) |
| 21:38.52 | Kaydeethree | couldn't tell ya. I conjure my own crack water, that's all I eve see |
| 21:38.59 | Xenok | hmm |
| 21:39.03 | TC-Working | heh, ok, thanks |
| 21:39.19 | Shirik|Ecole | and |
| 21:39.29 | Shirik|Ecole | you did self:RegisterForClicks() but conjure9:SetAttribute() ? |
| 21:39.30 | Xenok | I do know that now |
| 21:39.36 | Shirik|Ecole | at that location, self should == conjure9 |
| 21:39.50 | Shirik|Ecole | neither of which are your problem, though |
| 21:39.55 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 21:40.09 | Shirik|Ecole | oh duh |
| 21:41.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm pretty sure |
| 21:41.28 | Shirik|Ecole | during OnLoad |
| 21:41.28 | Shirik|Ecole | UnitLevel() will not be accurate |
| 21:41.28 | Xenok | oh? |
| 21:41.29 | Shirik|Ecole | you should wait for the PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event or something similar |
| 21:41.29 | zenzelezz | I find the WoWWiki page for Warp Splinter amusing... 7 different strategies listed |
| 21:41.29 | Xenok | I havn't coded in like 2 months.. forgot how to do tha shirik XD |
| 21:41.29 | Shirik|Ecole | on the same note |
| 21:41.29 | Shirik|Ecole | I also doubt that is your problem |
| 21:41.29 | Xenok | O.o |
| 21:41.37 | Xenok | hmm |
| 21:41.37 | Shirik|Ecole | ALSO |
| 21:41.39 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:41.46 | Shirik|Ecole | you mean level >= n, not level == n |
| 21:41.52 | Shirik|Ecole | but that is ALSO not your problem :P |
| 21:41.55 | Xenok | rofl |
| 21:42.10 | Shirik|Ecole | actually that won't work either, you'd have to reorder your things a bit |
| 21:42.18 | Xenok | ./sigh |
| 21:42.55 | Shirik|Ecole | oh oh |
| 21:42.57 | Shirik|Ecole | ok |
| 21:42.58 | Shirik|Ecole | got it |
| 21:43.06 | Shirik|Ecole | you're setting your attributes in OnClick |
| 21:43.11 | Shirik|Ecole | you should be doing that during OnLoad |
| 21:43.17 | Xenok | hmm |
| 21:43.25 | Shirik|Ecole | the attributes say "when I am clicked, do this" |
| 21:43.35 | Shirik|Ecole | well, that obviously can't be done during OnClick... cause it won't exist yet |
| 21:43.41 | Xenok | lol il see |
| 21:43.55 | Shirik|Ecole | specifically you're doing RegisterForClicks() in OnClick |
| 21:44.03 | Shirik|Ecole | thus you aren't registering for any clicks until the button is clicked |
| 21:44.10 | Shirik|Ecole | which will never happen because it's not looking for clicks |
| 21:44.30 | Xenok | hold on |
| 21:45.09 | foxlit | Btw, you can't have OnClick for a secureactionbutton |
| 21:45.19 | foxlit | Unless you HookScript() it, which is impractical for most things |
| 21:45.35 | Xenok | bah humbug |
| 21:45.54 | Xenok | waiiiit... I might need to do register fer clicks in the onload aswell |
| 21:45.55 | cogwheel|work | yep. you have to use <Pre/PostClick> |
| 21:45.57 | Xenok | amiright |
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| 21:46.08 | Shirik|Ecole | right |
| 21:46.12 | Xenok | ill try |
| 21:46.14 | Shirik|Ecole | you want to do it in OnLoad |
| 21:46.22 | Shirik|Ecole | you should only have to (in your case) register or set attributes once |
| 21:46.29 | Shirik|Ecole | and that can be done as soon as the frame is created |
| 21:46.39 | Shirik|Ecole | however, you DO need to defer hiding and showing until PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 21:46.47 | Shirik|Ecole | since you're trying to base it off UnitLevel() |
| 21:46.49 | foxlit | Got a few questions that require math :) |
| 21:46.50 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/47156 |
| 21:47.12 | Xenok | Shirik|Ecole: I need to relearn that lol |
| 21:47.54 | foxlit | Need to find a = b % c where b, c are BigNums (stealing http://oss.digirati.com.br/luabignum/bn/index.htm BigNum implementation) |
| 21:48.19 | Shirik|Ecole | still on that >< |
| 21:48.29 | foxlit | I'm done, mainly shaving seconds off stuff. |
| 21:48.58 | Shirik|Ecole | gah, I wish I had paid attention in discrete now |
| 21:49.11 | foxlit | The BigNum implementation I used suggests that to find a, you do the b / c division and then take the remainder from there, but that's too darn slow. |
| 21:49.11 | Xenok | OMFG... still not working?!! |
| 21:49.14 | Shirik|Ecole | well we know a = b (mod c) therefore |
| 21:49.35 | Shirik|Ecole | a = b - cn (mod c) |
| 21:49.40 | Shirik|Ecole | but that would be exactly what they're recommending |
| 21:49.48 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't find n without dividing |
| 21:50.04 | foxlit | Which brings me to the pastey |
| 21:50.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Xenok: Repaste your code |
| 21:50.26 | Xenok | aight |
| 21:50.54 | Shirik|Ecole | you are left clicking, right? |
| 21:51.10 | foxlit | The idea is: reduce b by factors of c until it's under c |
| 21:51.15 | Shirik|Ecole | right |
| 21:51.16 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/47159 |
| 21:51.20 | Xenok | and yes im left clicking |
| 21:51.25 | Shirik|Ecole | which is exactly what a = b - cn (mod c) says |
| 21:51.38 | Shirik|Ecole | n is an element of all counting numbers, a is an element of all positive integers |
| 21:51.44 | foxlit | Only doing floored division on the first few RADIX'es of the bignums |
| 21:51.46 | Shirik|Ecole | a <= c |
| 21:52.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Xenok: I think you should check your XML error log |
| 21:52.42 | foxlit | Which avoids division by introducing a number of multiplication and substraction operators |
| 21:52.44 | Shirik|Ecole | again, you have a capital C in there |
| 21:52.51 | Xenok | gah |
| 21:52.57 | Shirik|Ecole | l548 |
| 21:53.20 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: Is that any faster? |
| 21:53.22 | Shirik|Ecole | I would think not |
| 21:54.09 | foxlit | You know, I haven't actually checked since I noted that BigNum.div was slow and wrote that thing instead |
| 21:54.40 | Shirik|Ecole | the majority of implementations of division, at least the ones I'm familiar with |
| 21:54.47 | Shirik|Ecole | merely work with powers of two and then subtract |
| 21:54.51 | Xenok | would "Unknown frame type: Scripts" be the prob? XD |
| 21:54.57 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 21:55.19 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
| 21:55.24 | Shirik|Ecole | your <Scripts> is outside of the button |
| 21:55.25 | Shirik|Ecole | it needs to be inside |
| 21:55.28 | Xenok | ohhhhh |
| 21:55.38 | Xenok | wait.. hold on |
| 21:55.51 | Xenok | what button? |
| 21:56.04 | Shirik|Ecole | well, that depends on what you're trying to do |
| 21:56.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I already don't like your implementation :P |
| 21:56.21 | Xenok | haha |
| 21:56.23 | Shirik|Ecole | but it needs to be inside some frame |
| 21:56.26 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 21:56.46 | Shirik|Ecole | currently, you (are trying to) do all initialization in one script |
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| 21:56.51 | Shirik|Ecole | but... each frame gets its own OnLoad |
| 21:57.02 | Shirik|Ecole | so you're kinda out of scope there |
| 21:57.06 | Xenok | I guess so |
| 21:57.32 | Xenok | forgot a / at the end cog? |
| 21:57.38 | Shirik|Ecole | cogwheel|work: What do you mean? |
| 21:57.47 | Shirik|Ecole | "Black temple released!" ? |
| 21:57.57 | cogwheel|work | I've gotten three connection timeouts in a row |
| 21:58.01 | Xenok | orly? |
| 21:58.02 | cogwheel|work | but the forums are working fine |
| 21:58.03 | Xenok | not I |
| 21:58.19 | Shirik|Ecole | no problem for me :/ |
| 21:58.22 | Shirik|Ecole | sounds like a routing issue |
| 21:58.25 | Shirik|Ecole | go yell at your is |
| 21:58.26 | Shirik|Ecole | isp |
| 21:58.40 | cogwheel|work | :( |
| 21:58.44 | cogwheel|work | I do that all the time |
| 21:58.55 | Shirik|Ecole | though |
| 21:58.56 | cogwheel|work | what about http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch2p10.html ? |
| 21:59.07 | Shirik|Ecole | forums.worldofwarcraft.com and worldofwarcraft.com are on the same class C |
| 21:59.09 | Shirik|Ecole | so |
| 21:59.12 | Shirik|Ecole | that doesn't make sense |
| 21:59.21 | foxlit | Shirik: yes, it's still faster. |
| 21:59.29 | Shirik|Ecole | cogwheel|work: NOW I got a timeout :P |
| 21:59.51 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: ok :) |
| 21:59.52 | foxlit | They're about equal on low numbers (BigNum actually wins since it doesn't require as many divisions), but it's a heckload faster on larger numbers |
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| 22:00.52 | cogwheel|work | grr... blizzard totally borked patch.html with the mini crash fix patch and now I can't get to the one on the website |
| 22:01.13 | Xenok | OMG OMG OMG TY SHIRIK!!!!! IT WORKED NOW! |
| 22:01.28 | Xenok | hehe over react much? |
| 22:01.29 | Shirik|Ecole | :) |
| 22:02.30 | Xenok | Me thinks taht was the last part of the mod I had to deal with! now gotta copy conjure9 to the other 8 :) |
| 22:02.43 | Xenok | oh and screenshots |
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| 22:03.01 | Xenok | er... maybe gotta make the fram draggable.. |
| 22:03.05 | Xenok | ./doh |
| 22:03.39 | foxlit | Plus my method wins by not generating garbage :P |
| 22:03.40 | Shirik|Ecole | this is easy |
| 22:03.46 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: hehe :) |
| 22:04.51 | foxlit | So it actually works perfectly well in the background :P |
| 22:05.36 | Shirik|Ecole | how long do operations take? |
| 22:05.52 | Shirik|Ecole | I'd prefer not to lock up the UI even for a few seconds just because something's coming in that "might" be useful |
| 22:06.02 | Xenok | who you talking to? |
| 22:06.02 | foxlit | It's all coroutined |
| 22:06.08 | Xenok | nvm |
| 22:06.09 | Shirik|Ecole | ah that's what I was looking for :) |
| 22:06.27 | foxlit | Though I do need to check that it works with the revised scheduler :P |
| 22:06.46 | Shirik|Ecole | grab VFL's adaptive scheduler and be done with it :P |
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| 22:07.18 | Guillotine | question: what happens if you have a LoD addon, and you start WoW. Then you edit the LoD addon and load it. does it get the edited version, or does it get the version you had when you logged in? |
| 22:07.37 | foxlit | I think I wrote something that works, and it's rather short :P |
| 22:07.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I was amazed at how well it works; I set the update frequency to 0.01 sec the other day for queue processing; it locked up my UI at the beginning of the instance but after about half a second it was back to a playable framerate |
| 22:07.52 | Shirik|Ecole | if what you have works, use it :) |
| 22:08.25 | foxlit | But basically, I have no useful scenarios to test stuff in now :P |
| 22:08.36 | Xenok | ooo crap! now i need to know how to make a minimap button :P |
| 22:09.43 | Xenok | where to learn that where to learn |
| 22:09.58 | foxlit | Still have to figure out what locks on my zone-ins |
| 22:10.17 | cogwheel|work | blizzard.com is borked now too :( |
| 22:10.20 | foxlit | Can't coroutine the whole UI code, though :( |
| 22:10.33 | Shirik|Ecole | sure you can |
| 22:10.44 | Shirik|Ecole | UIParent:HookScript() |
| 22:10.55 | Shirik|Ecole | UIParent:HookScript(function() coroutine.yield() end) |
| 22:10.56 | Shirik|Ecole | ^^ |
| 22:11.06 | foxlit | HookWhatScript? |
| 22:11.11 | Shirik|Ecole | oh yeah |
| 22:11.12 | Shirik|Ecole | um |
| 22:11.23 | Shirik|Ecole | iterate through al lthe scripts |
| 22:11.24 | Shirik|Ecole | and hook them |
| 22:11.39 | foxlit | That'd only give me UIparent |
| 22:11.45 | Shirik|Ecole | btw don't do this, it's gonna spam you with "Attempt to yield beyond a C call boundary" |
| 22:12.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:12.03 | foxlit | And you can't yield from outside a coroutine :) |
| 22:12.14 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> coroutine.yield() |
| 22:12.19 | Shirik|Ecole | cide get back here! |
| 22:12.36 | End | end@yendor(/home/end) % lua |
| 22:12.36 | End | Lua 5.1.1 Copyright (C) 1994-2006 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 22:12.36 | End | > coroutine.yield() |
| 22:12.36 | End | attempt to yield across metamethod/C-call boundary |
| 22:12.43 | Shirik|Ecole | > coroutine.yield() |
| 22:12.43 | Shirik|Ecole | attempt to yield across metamethod/C-call boundary |
| 22:12.45 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 22:12.46 | Shirik|Ecole | that |
| 22:13.15 | cogwheel|work | /target Cide |
| 22:13.17 | foxlit | Besides, yielding the whole interface doesn't quite make sense :) |
| 22:13.21 | cogwheel|work | /cast Ritual of Summoning |
| 22:13.31 | Shirik|Ecole | last time you did that it worked >.> |
| 22:13.36 | End | it doesn't make much sense at all |
| 22:13.48 | cogwheel|work | only when people CLICK TEH DAMN PROTAL! |
| 22:14.17 | Shirik|Ecole | you were supposed to click the protal |
| 22:14.19 | Shirik|Ecole | good job |
| 22:14.23 | Shirik|Ecole | you just summoned cide into nowhere |
| 22:14.25 | Shirik|Ecole | now he's dead |
| 22:14.41 | cogwheel|work | u noobs RIGHT-click |
| 22:14.51 | cogwheel|work | /cast Ritual of Summoning |
| 22:14.59 | cogwheel|work | do it rite this tiem |
| 22:15.02 | End | that's why you don't hurry summons...you hurry a summon and you get a rotten summon |
| 22:15.28 | End | or was that miracles |
| 22:15.31 | End | I forget which |
| 22:15.34 | Shirik|Ecole | ok so question, thoughts |
| 22:15.37 | End | :P |
| 22:15.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm thinking about adding an icon to my encounter bar that looks like the windows "networking" icon |
| 22:16.02 | Shirik|Ecole | so that you can see when you're sending/receiving data |
| 22:16.04 | End | . o O ( This is my thought! ) |
| 22:16.11 | Shirik|Ecole | (since it could take a few seconds to finish) |
| 22:16.15 | Shirik|Ecole | (even minutes, haven't tested) |
| 22:16.35 | Shirik|Ecole | would it look ok? or do you think people wouldn't understand it |
| 22:16.38 | End | if it takes that long, it'd probably useful |
| 22:16.46 | Shirik|Ecole | and I should do something like what damage meters does with "processing" |
| 22:16.55 | End | yeah, I was just thinking of that too |
| 22:16.56 | foxlit | wth are you transferring? :) |
| 22:17.02 | Shirik|Ecole | a table with |
| 22:17.06 | Shirik|Ecole | probably, on average |
| 22:17.08 | Shirik|Ecole | about 2000 elements |
| 22:17.17 | Shirik|Ecole | between 10-25 people |
| 22:17.17 | foxlit | why oh why? :) |
| 22:17.38 | Shirik|Ecole | synchronization |
| 22:17.45 | Shirik|Ecole | RDXM_BattleRecorder |
| 22:18.03 | foxlit | RDXM_KitchenSink soon? :) |
| 22:18.09 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah working on that one |
| 22:18.54 | foxlit | You should probably have the decency to zip that stuff up before transfering over public chat channels :P |
| 22:20.12 | Shirik|Ecole | not over public chat |
| 22:20.18 | Shirik|Ecole | over raid SendAddonMessage() :P |
| 22:20.40 | foxlit | practically the same thing |
| 22:20.48 | Guillotine | Shirik: with 2000 elements, its going to take minutes to send the data probably |
| 22:21.00 | Shirik|Ecole | well that's why I'm going to probably have to rethink how much it transmits |
| 22:21.02 | Guillotine | remember that SendAddonMessage is still affected by throttling |
| 22:21.08 | Shirik|Ecole | or potentially send during the encounter |
| 22:21.12 | Shirik|Ecole | oh I know that, and the scheduler handles that |
| 22:21.15 | Kaydeethree | huh? it's only affected by the flooding filter |
| 22:21.16 | Guillotine | alright |
| 22:21.20 | Shirik|Ecole | we have a message queue, messages are never sent |
| 22:21.23 | foxlit | Coming Next Week: WoWZaa, share your MP3s while playing WoW |
| 22:21.30 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 22:21.31 | Shirik|Ecole | RDX.EnqueueMessage not RDX.TransmitMessage :P |
| 22:21.38 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 22:21.42 | Shirik|Ecole | hmmm |
| 22:21.44 | Guillotine | I made a test addon that let you send addons to people over WoW |
| 22:21.53 | Guillotine | just had to store them as strings |
| 22:21.57 | foxlit | wtb! |
| 22:21.57 | Guillotine | then just run RunScript on them |
| 22:22.03 | Guillotine | I lost it when my computer crashed :( |
| 22:22.07 | Guillotine | and died |
| 22:22.08 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah, with foxlit's implementation |
| 22:22.11 | Shirik|Ecole | it would be secure too |
| 22:22.13 | Guillotine | I may make it again eventually |
| 22:22.16 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what I'm hoping to do when he finishes it up |
| 22:22.18 | foxlit | Well, actually wtb decent implementation of send/recieve cache and search/request mechanisms |
| 22:22.21 | Shirik|Ecole | so I can send RDX patches |
| 22:22.39 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: you mean with regards to sending messages? |
| 22:22.50 | nevcairiel | interesting idea tho, submit small patches which can be loadstring'ed |
| 22:23.02 | nevcairiel | wont work for every fix i guess |
| 22:23.20 | Shirik|Ecole | http://rdx.emoemu.com/wiki/index.php/Protocols look ok? |
| 22:23.27 | foxlit | And a world domination module that converts XML->Lua |
| 22:23.27 | Shirik|Ecole | if so, I can send you the sync information for RDX |
| 22:23.32 | Shirik|Ecole | it's pretty straightforwards |
| 22:23.50 | Guillotine | string.dump is pricekless for this type of thing |
| 22:23.53 | Guillotine | priceless* |
| 22:24.08 | Guillotine | only problem is you have to know the name of all the functions |
| 22:24.31 | Guillotine | and everything has to be stored in functions |
| 22:24.45 | foxlit | Not quite what I had in mind, Shirik :) |
| 22:24.55 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway |
| 22:24.57 | foxlit | But hey, crypto's pluggable :) |
| 22:25.17 | foxlit | Can I detect that I'm in a coroutine? |
| 22:25.29 | Shirik|Ecole | not directly |
| 22:25.50 | Shirik|Ecole | you could use a semaphore hooked to coroutine.resume() I guess |
| 22:25.50 | foxlit | Passing cr flags sucks :( |
| 22:26.09 | Guillotine | hmm, I wonder... |
| 22:26.27 | Shirik|Ecole | CRCount = 0; hooksecurefunc(coroutine, "resume", function() CRCount = CRCount + 1; end); hooksecurefunc(coroutine, "yield", function() CRCount = CRCount - 1; end); |
| 22:26.30 | Shirik|Ecole | but that wouldn't really work either |
| 22:26.37 | Shirik|Ecole | when the coroutine returns (not yields) or errors |
| 22:26.43 | Shirik|Ecole | CRCount would be one over what it should be |
| 22:29.00 | foxlit | Flag it is, then |
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| 22:42.26 | Guillotine | dammit. Slouken has outwitted me once again :( can't string.dump protected functions |
| 22:42.30 | Guillotine | so I can't unprotect them |
| 22:43.54 | ckknight | that's been that way since beta |
| 22:44.02 | ckknight | oh, wait, no |
| 22:44.05 | cogwheel|work | more like the functions are written in C so there IS no dumping them... |
| 22:44.12 | ckknight | yea, that'd be it. |
| 22:44.15 | cogwheel|work | (unless you're specifically referring to framexml code) |
| 22:45.14 | End | even if you loaded up a framexml code after dumping it, I'm pretty sure it'd be tainted anyways |
| 22:45.54 | End | dumping the C functions doesn't make sense though, that's true, and that's what I think Guillotine was talking about |
| 22:46.15 | cogwheel|work | wtf is wrong with blizzard's web servers today? :| |
| 22:46.53 | End | their forums seem fine to me, but it does seem like the main site...is not responding |
| 22:47.00 | Shirik | my virus is finally being distributed widely, the DoS is underway >:D |
| 22:47.12 | Shirik | fools! Now they shall pay for the 2.0 changes |
| 22:47.16 | cogwheel|work | I can't get my mind around the fact that the forums work but the websites don't... |
| 22:47.24 | cogwheel|work | it's just.... not supposed to work that way! |
| 22:47.24 | Shirik | yeah it should be the other way around :P |
| 22:47.36 | End | they probably have a lot more hardware thrown at the forums |
| 22:48.01 | End | although, the main site isn't responding period.... |
| 22:48.07 | End | it's beyond being sluggish |
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| 22:48.49 | cogwheel|work | blizzard.com is down too |
| 22:48.53 | Guillotine | ah, End is right |
| 22:48.55 | Guillotine | it wouldn't have worked anyway |
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| 22:50.54 | Guillotine | so now that invalid characters don't d/c you when sent through SendAddonMessage, you could pretty easily use string.dump and loadstring to send addons through WoW |
| 22:51.33 | Shirik | Commit failed (detauls follow): |
| 22:51.33 | Shirik | Error: Can't connect to host: A connection attempt failed because the connected party did not properly respond after a period of time, or established connection failed because connected host has failed to respond. |
| 22:51.34 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:51.43 | Shirik | I should start using my own SVN server instead of Cidan's :P |
| 22:52.32 | cladhaire | googlecode ftw |
| 22:52.34 | cladhaire | lamer |
| 22:53.40 | Shirik | I used googlecode for a while |
| 22:53.45 | Shirik | btw their SVN servers are so insanely slow |
| 22:53.56 | Shirik | but at least they're up ^^ |
| 22:54.04 | foxlit | wow, this is a comedy of errors |
| 22:54.07 | cladhaire | ... |
| 22:54.10 | cladhaire | they're not slow at all |
| 22:54.14 | cladhaire | you're smoking crack |
| 22:54.16 | Shirik | last time I tried to commit to it |
| 22:54.19 | Shirik | I got 200 bytes per sec |
| 22:54.26 | zenzelezz | Google just doesn't like you |
| 22:54.33 | foxlit | First I use Prism_Scheduler:AddTask rather than Prism_Scheduler.AddTask; then I put , tostring(res) inside a string.format rather than return :/ |
| 22:54.34 | Shirik | and it's not my connection considering I commit to cidan's at about 100KB |
| 22:54.38 | cladhaire | Shirik: I get much more than that. |
| 22:54.43 | Shirik | they like you more :( |
| 22:54.50 | Shirik | granted I haven't used it in about 2 months |
| 22:58.38 | foxlit | LF-only newlines make notepad cry :( |
| 22:58.44 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:58.46 | Shirik | use wordpat |
| 22:58.47 | Shirik | pad* |
| 22:59.15 | foxlit | But me like notepad! Me demand rest of the world use CRLF! |
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| 23:01.21 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:01.21 | Shirik | let us all follow the rules of Microsoft! |
| 23:01.21 | Shirik | they know the way! |
| 23:01.22 | Shirik | >.> |
| 23:02.08 | foxlit | I'm surprised, though. You'd think most people use windows as a development platform |
| 23:02.08 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 23:02.08 | Shirik | mmm, that's a rough statement |
| 23:03.03 | foxlit | Bigger marketshare. More people playing WoW on Win32 |
| 23:03.03 | zenzelezz | and almost all developer oriented Windows software support LF-only as well as CRLF |
| 23:03.03 | foxlit | But why bother? |
| 23:03.03 | Shirik | yeah, Visual Studio has no problem with LF-only, for example |
| 23:03.04 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Lunessa (n=chatzill@129.7.91.217) |
| 23:03.04 | Shirik | foxlit: Because Linux doesn't like CRLF, for example |
| 23:03.04 | Shirik | well, certain tools in Linux |
| 23:03.08 | zenzelezz | I std::endl |
| 23:03.23 | Shirik | you put that at the end of every one of your source lines? o.o |
| 23:03.27 | Shirik | ^^ |
| 23:03.37 | Shirik | but in all seriousness, I would probably argue that |
| 23:03.49 | Shirik | if someone is developing intentionally cross-platform, they'll probably use LF instead of CRLF |
| 23:04.17 | Lunessa | Good evening everyone. |
| 23:04.22 | cogwheel|work | hey :) |
| 23:04.25 | Shirik | more Linux tools do not support CRLF than Windows tools not supporting LF |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik | hi :D |
| 23:04.43 | foxlit | hrm, boo hiss. |
| 23:04.44 | Shirik | in fact |
| 23:04.48 | Shirik | the only tool I can think of in windows having a problem is notepad |
| 23:04.52 | foxlit | I changed scheduler to be more agressive with using up time, and it cut FPS. Stupid cause and effect :P |
| 23:05.31 | Shirik | see now |
| 23:05.36 | Shirik | if you had used an ADAPTIVE scheduler... |
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| 23:05.53 | foxlit | ~whaleslap Shirik |
| 23:06.04 | purl | ACTION beats Shirik upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 23:06.04 | Shirik | hey she figured it out! |
| 23:06.24 | |Jelly| | Been here for a while, actually. Known as "the" because I'm a tard and well, LFG (failing, mind you) |
| 23:06.25 | Shirik | hi |Jelly| :) |
| 23:06.46 | Shirik | ugh |
| 23:06.55 | Shirik | you got cogwheel|work to convince you to use chatzilla |
| 23:06.58 | foxlit | Does Lua have repeat? |
| 23:07.08 | Lunessa | Hah... Thanks Cog for pointing out Chatzilla. I haven't used irc since... oh, '95 or so so bear with my n00bery. |
| 23:07.11 | Shirik | repeat? |
| 23:07.13 | |Jelly| | Because I'm lazy : / |
| 23:07.22 | foxlit | Yes |
| 23:07.26 | Shirik | what's that? |
| 23:07.27 | foxlit | repeat {block} until |
| 23:07.29 | cogwheel|work | repeat /block/ until /expression/ |
| 23:07.31 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:07.54 | cogwheel|work | Heh. mIRC was way too intimidating for me :P |
| 23:08.32 | |Jelly| | They wanted me to pay for it and well, I'm not about that! |
| 23:08.32 | cogwheel|work | and I found its interface very unintuitive |
| 23:08.33 | zenzelezz | l2X-Chat |
| 23:08.33 | cogwheel|work | and that too :) |
| 23:08.42 | Shirik | yeah well what cogwheel|work said |
| 23:08.47 | Shirik | though I don't see the purpose of it :/ |
| 23:08.56 | Shirik | C has grown on me too much, I only use while |
| 23:09.16 | Lunessa | *chuckle* mIRC is not Mac-happy and I didn't want to buy a client. This works just fine. |
| 23:09.35 | foxlit | The purpose is that the block is always executed at least once |
| 23:09.35 | Shirik | yeah I know |
| 23:09.35 | Shirik | I actually was under the false assumption that do...while worked |
| 23:09.35 | Shirik | which it doesn't |
| 23:10.48 | Corrodias | indeed; i never use notepad |
| 23:11.12 | foxlit | It's the editor that opens fastest :P |
| 23:11.19 | cladhaire | Lunessa: Colloquy is a spectacular free mac client |
| 23:11.21 | cladhaire | I highly suggest it |
| 23:11.40 | Corrodias | wordpad is plenty fast |
| 23:12.00 | Lunessa | I'll have to check it out Cladhaire. Oh, and congratulations on the book. |
| 23:12.04 | cladhaire | thanks! |
| 23:12.12 | cladhaire | its kinda weird, but very exciting |
| 23:12.27 | zenzelezz | the book is weird but exciting? |
| 23:12.38 | cladhaire | no its weird to hold a real book in my hands, that i helped write |
| 23:12.40 | cladhaire | that's weird =0 |
| 23:12.49 | cladhaire | and its very exciting =) |
| 23:13.23 | Lunessa | :D |
| 23:13.39 | Lunessa | I felt the same way when I got my editor's copies of books I worked on. |
| 23:13.50 | foxlit | "So how do you feel for being responsible for the needless killing of the world's forests to make copies of your book?" |
| 23:14.08 | Tain | Now cladhaire, "I never believed the letters in your forum until it happened to me..." doesn't constitute a book. |
| 23:14.14 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:17.05 | Lunessa | Some days, I think my blood pressure and general mental well-being would be enhanced if I stopped reading WoW-realted forums. |
| 23:17.13 | cladhaire | they would =) |
| 23:17.17 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.31 | |Jelly| | I think it's more or less blood pressure for me though : / |
| 23:19.10 | foxlit | Signing goes down to ~800s of coroutine time :) |
| 23:19.46 | Corrodias | afaik, most -paper- is from tree farms specifically made for paper |
| 23:20.17 | foxlit | I'm sure there's some silly argument agains tree farms as well |
| 23:20.23 | Corrodias | furniture, on the other hand, is more likely to be responsible for levelling the forests you mentioned |
| 23:20.57 | Tain | Not to mention the vicious roving bands of termites. |
| 23:21.04 | Corrodias | and wild fires |
| 23:21.24 | zenzelezz | deforestation for preparing farmland or living space is the worst |
| 23:21.25 | zenzelezz | if it weren't for humans, most of Europe would be forests |
| 23:21.46 | Tain | Lumberjacks are the worst. |
| 23:21.55 | Lunessa | I'm concerned about those rampant forests! Something must be done to curb their run-away growth! |
| 23:22.23 | Shirik | 19:16:43 ‹Lunessa› Some days, I think my blood pressure and general mental well-being would be enhanced if I stopped reading WoW-realted forums. |
| 23:22.29 | cogwheel|work | Lunessa: srsly... They've completely decimated carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere |
| 23:22.32 | Shirik | and why do you think I've not been to them as of late :p |
| 23:22.42 | wobin | Lazyness? |
| 23:22.44 | Shirik | s/them/them much/ |
| 23:22.48 | zenzelezz | you don't put on women's clothing and hang around in bars, cog? |
| 23:22.50 | |Jelly| | Because you wanted to be a troll! |
| 23:23.04 | Shirik | If that were the case I'd be like Kaydeethree and be in general chat all the time |
| 23:23.07 | wobin | I never wanted to be a lumberjack, I wanted to be a... TROLL! |
| 23:23.10 | wobin | no, wait... |
| 23:23.37 | Lunessa | Shirik - At least they help curb the raging anger stupid user calls causes me. :lol: |
| 23:23.41 | cogwheel|work | zenzelezz: not at the same time..... <.< |
| 23:23.43 | Shirik | ha |
| 23:25.15 | Xenok | grrr Where do I learn how to make a minimap button? :P |
| 23:25.18 | Lunessa | Wait.. On the WoW Forums I *am* in women's clothing! Oh noes! |
| 23:26.41 | Lunessa | Xenox - the art? |
| 23:26.51 | Xenok | umm I think I found it nvm |
| 23:27.02 | Xenok | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2834 >_> |
| 23:27.06 | cogwheel|work | time for home... later |
| 23:27.40 | foxlit | Anyone fancy running a few tests for me? |
| 23:28.39 | |Jelly| | Oh. Shirik...while you're handy. Is there any word on your level flight indicator? SpeedFu works but your idea seemed so neat. |
| 23:29.51 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:29.51 | Shirik | yeah, kinda |
| 23:29.51 | Shirik | It detects angles correctly |
| 23:29.52 | Shirik | I just need to actually make the HUD |
| 23:29.52 | Shirik | unfortunately...... that's the same thing I said to someone who asked 3 weeks ago |
| 23:29.52 | |Jelly| | Do you need any guinea pigs? I mean...I can't seem to find any freaking groups as of late |
| 23:29.52 | [dRaCo] | /cheer shirik |
| 23:29.52 | Shirik | it was probably [dRaCo] too |
| 23:29.56 | wobin | woo, you solved, it, Shirik? Very cool |
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| 23:34.12 | foxlit | Anyone remember anything about <Silder> ? |
| 23:35.16 | Xenok | omg gah... that link of mine isn't any help :P where the heck do I go to learn to make minimap buttons?! :P |
| 23:37.08 | Lunessa | Grab an addon that has one, and read the code? |
| 23:37.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | owww |
| 23:37.37 | wobin | Isn't there a guide on wowwiki? |
| 23:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | Moroes hits you for 4100. (Crushing) |
| 23:37.47 | Lunessa | I'm looking, but ... not finding. |
| 23:37.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | :( |
| 23:37.48 | Xenok | no wobin there isn't |
| 23:38.06 | Xenok | Lunessa.... I tried... it didnt' work.. tried 3 mods... no method was the same XD |
| 23:38.11 | [dRaCo] | who cares 'about 4k dmg? |
| 23:38.40 | Lunessa | My clothie hide cares about 4K. That's 66% of my health... |
| 23:38.55 | Mikk | Go stand under Gruul after 15 grows :- |
| 23:38.58 | Xenok | thats about.. 90& of mine... and im 70 XD |
| 23:38.59 | Mikk | :-P |
| 23:39.10 | Xenok | 90% |
| 23:39.15 | [dRaCo] | I'd like to meet you guys in eye of the storm :D |
| 23:39.21 | Mikk | haha |
| 23:39.26 | Xenok | me = dead mage |
| 23:39.38 | Mikk | MS, WW, Execute, dead |
| 23:40.06 | Xenok | Ice barrior.. frost nova... icelance x3.. lather rinse repeat XD |
| 23:40.21 | Lunessa | I don't PVP as a priest. Not because I'm a priest, and priests aren't good at PvP... but because I stink. |
| 23:40.28 | [dRaCo] | It'd more be like: purge, stormstrike, pray for wf, earthshock, dead mage. |
| 23:40.42 | Xenok | oh yeah.. spellsteal ftw |
| 23:40.56 | foxlit | zomg avenging wrath? |
| 23:41.06 | Xenok | zomg... Water elemental |
| 23:41.08 | Xenok | O.o |
| 23:41.22 | foxlit | Can't steal a water elemental, don't be silly :) |
| 23:41.25 | Xenok | rofl |
| 23:41.45 | Xenok | yeah.. I can steal anything but auras and pally bubbles XD |
| 23:41.46 | [dRaCo] | nope, but you can ignore it :) |
| 23:41.47 | Shirik | 19:37:25 ‹Mr_Rabies2› Moroes hits you for 4100. (Crushing) |
| 23:41.47 | Shirik | that's it? |
| 23:41.49 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:41.51 | Shadowed | Why ignore it |
| 23:41.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | 22000 armor |
| 23:41.54 | Shadowed | they're squishy |
| 23:42.01 | Shirik | I have like |
| 23:42.02 | Shirik | 2 armor |
| 23:42.04 | Shirik | 1 on my priest |
| 23:42.05 | [dRaCo] | just kill the mage and you're done. |
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| 23:42.20 | Xenok | water ele's "Freeze" ftw |
| 23:42.20 | hermock | hello anyone there ? |
| 23:42.21 | Shadowed | Frost Mages are rather hard to kill |
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| 23:42.26 | Shirik | hermock: nope |
| 23:42.28 | foxlit | I don't play PvP cause it always ends in heartbreak |
| 23:42.32 | Shirik | Soulless? |
| 23:42.34 | Shirik | Eredar? |
| 23:42.37 | foxlit | You can't kill a druid solo, so I usually end up in 5v1 battles. |
| 23:42.40 | Lunessa | Actually, the Moroes fight has been the easiest fight in Kara for my tiny little guild. |
| 23:42.53 | [dRaCo] | I like those 3 mins mages |
| 23:43.00 | zenzelezz | really? Hard to be easier than Attumen |
| 23:43.01 | hermock | Hello everyone I am looking for a kind developper that know how to develop addons |
| 23:43.04 | Xenok | Im a 3 min mage T_T |
| 23:43.16 | Shirik | hermock: I think you've hit the jackpot |
| 23:43.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
| 23:43.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28545 are mine :D |
| 23:43.32 | Shadowed | Mage gains AP -> You gain CLoS -> You resist mages pyro |
| 23:43.34 | Shadowed | good times |
| 23:43.41 | Xenok | haha |
| 23:43.55 | Lunessa | Ok, Attumen is pretty easy too; the Maiden gave us a headache, but we figured it out. Now we just need to go through the rest. |
| 23:43.59 | zenzelezz | grats Rabies |
| 23:44.03 | [dRaCo] | spell reflect is funny, too :D |
| 23:44.09 | hermock | great |
| 23:44.27 | Xenok | on pyro.. i hate it |
| 23:44.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | was worth getting crushed by moroes |
| 23:44.28 | foxlit | Cyclone > * |
| 23:44.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | to get those :O |
| 23:44.28 | Shadowed | Spell reflect is too obvious now |
| 23:44.28 | hermock | sorry for being a noob, how do you pm ? |
| 23:44.32 | Xenok | I don't rmemeber hermock XD |
| 23:44.32 | Shirik | if you're trying to PM me, don't |
| 23:44.32 | Shadowed | and it's incredibly hard to time it in arenas |
| 23:44.42 | zenzelezz | I get such a kick out of Julianne, crushing blows for 2000 |
| 23:44.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | those are the best kitty boots afaik |
| 23:44.54 | Shirik | but it's /query |
| 23:44.59 | Shirik | type /query <nick> |
| 23:45.18 | foxlit | 7query Shirik haha! |
| 23:45.35 | Shirik | omg |
| 23:45.44 | Shirik | you all are going to make me reject all PMs |
| 23:45.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | /close -m |
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| 23:46.06 | Cairenn | yay |
| 23:46.06 | Cairenn | http://www.digg.com/tech_news/One_of_the_top_10_top_spammers_in_the_world_arrested |
| 23:46.15 | foxlit | "Better, much better" |
| 23:46.17 | wobin | rofl =) |
| 23:46.31 | wobin | Need to get 172MB of archives. After unpacking 333MB will be used. |
| 23:46.34 | hermock | oki I found how ti |
| 23:46.42 | foxlit | zomg, man arrested, spam stops |
| 23:46.53 | foxlit | Why do I have a feeling that just isn't so? |
| 23:46.57 | Shirik | Cairenn: nice :) |
| 23:47.10 | Lunessa | That guy... one of the top 10 - now let's get the other 9. |
| 23:47.11 | hermock | So where is the material for developping a wow add on ? |
| 23:47.19 | hermock | What s the API language ? |
| 23:47.26 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/API http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 23:47.27 | Shirik | it's Lua |
| 23:48.13 | foxlit | But seriously, wouldn't most spam be sent via botnets now anyway? |
| 23:48.26 | foxlit | What does taking one man out of the picture do? |
| 23:48.40 | Karrion | foxlit: someone has to tell the bots what to send |
| 23:48.51 | hermock | thank you Shirik |
| 23:49.07 | Shirik | for Lua information, see http://www.lua.org specifically looking at PiL |
| 23:49.08 | Shirik | ~pil |
| 23:49.27 | purl | it has been said that pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. the Python Imaging Library |
| 23:49.27 | foxlit | If I was sending spam, I'd operate some sort of reseller service. |
| 23:49.53 | foxlit | own botnet, let other people, for some sort of fee, direct messages through it. |
| 23:50.12 | Cairenn | http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/internet/05/31/spam.arrest.ap/index.html |
| 23:51.31 | Lunessa | I deal with SPAM on an admin level every day. His arrest helps to fill a gaping wound in my soul; just a little. |
| 23:52.22 | Karrion | getting him means you've got the bot net controller, and can shut down the whole network. in theory. |
| 23:53.45 | Karrion | 'course there's plenty of others out there still |
| 23:53.49 | hermock | What is the language to develop a wow addon ? |
| 23:53.55 | Shirik | Lua |
| 23:55.11 | hermock | No other choice ? I do not know lua |
| 23:55.21 | hermock | is it oo ? |
| 23:55.35 | cladhaire | http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 23:55.50 | Karrion | lua's pretty easy to learn |
| 23:56.02 | Karrion | it can be oo, if you want it to be |
| 23:56.04 | Lunessa | If you know any other language (aside from basic) - or have scripted in PERL, learning LUA will be fast. |
| 23:56.13 | cladhaire | I just wrote a book that will teach you how to write addons, at least in part. |
| 23:56.30 | hermock | I know perl C++ and java .... I am working in the field |
| 23:56.32 | Thrae | cladhaire wrote a book on "Hacking World of Warcraft". |
| 23:56.33 | |Jelly| | And when will this book be out? <3 |
| 23:56.39 | cladhaire | |Jelly|: its out now. |
| 23:56.44 | |Jelly| | Roger |
| 23:56.46 | |Jelly| | aa |
| 23:56.53 | |Jelly| | ahh yeah...Cog linked me |
| 23:57.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Karrion (n=kieron@corp-gw01.imrworldwide.com) |
| 23:57.40 | Karrion | hermock: then you shouldn't have too much trouble picking up lua |
| 23:57.52 | cladhaire | you'll find lua very easy |
| 23:58.05 | hermock | I arrived in this chatroom threw Gatherer wow add on ..... |
| 23:58.21 | Thrae | hermock: Lua has a lot of simularties to Java and C++, closer to C++ in syntax, but closer to Java in implementation. |
| 23:58.23 | hermock | is it an IRC channel ? |
| 23:58.33 | cladhaire | this is an irc channel, yes |
| 23:58.39 | cladhaire | irc.freenode.com #wowi-lounge |
| 23:58.57 | Cairenn | freenode.net, not .com |
| 23:58.57 | hermock | thank you for the description Thrae |
| 23:59.11 | Thrae | This is the channel for WoWInterface.com, where we talk about many things, mostly about addons and addon development. |
| 23:59.35 | hermock | I was luccky to find it in so few time |
| 23:59.38 | cladhaire | my b |
