| 00:00.12 | MentalPower|Food | crud |
| 00:00.18 | MentalPower|Food | what happens if you try? |
| 00:00.59 | ravagernl | You cannot interact with mailboxes |
| 00:01.10 | MentalPower|Food | ah, IC |
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| 00:40.27 | sysrage | illhoof 1 shot! |
| 00:40.39 | Tem | gogo KZ nerf! |
| 00:40.46 | sysrage | heh |
| 00:46.15 | sysrage | i love how pet bars get screwed up every major patch |
| 00:46.49 | nevcairiel | again ? :p |
| 00:47.01 | sysrage | mine have been disappearing again since 2.1 ya |
| 00:47.09 | nevcairiel | i thought about re-doing the damn petbar in bt3, instead of hooking in the default UI one |
| 00:48.34 | nevcairiel | will prolly happen in the next version |
| 00:53.45 | VoiDRaider | Iriel if you still here, I compacted the code to a very small version without any textures just pure frames using Y axis 0 and still the frames overlap when you scale them, you can see the whole code here http://wowi.pastey.net/42458 |
| 00:54.11 | Aella | Why exactly do you need to scale them? |
| 00:54.49 | VoiDRaider | So I can resize them ? |
| 00:55.25 | Aella | Mmm, okay. |
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| 01:26.13 | sysrage | rofl. listening to some of the tards in my guild try to grasp the netherspite event is extremely amusing |
| 01:27.29 | Osagasu | Remember |
| 01:27.44 | Osagasu | Every 'tard is a unique and "spechal" flower. |
| 01:27.49 | sysrage | heh |
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| 01:48.38 | VoiDRaider | Well Iriel thank you so much for the help, I have no clue why I haven't used the same parent and instead chosen to set the frames relatively to each other that made it all so complicated :) |
| 01:49.18 | VoiDRaider | At last I figured this out :D |
| 01:50.42 | Tuller | hey nevcairiel: [stance:2/3,stealth]prowl should work fine for the people with no aquatic form :) |
| 01:51.58 | Iriel | VoiDRaider: Yay |
| 01:52.37 | VoiDRaider | :D |
| 01:53.32 | VoiDRaider | The great hint "Firstly it's very odd to make all of the things in a list children of each other,r ayther than them all being children of a common root" :)) |
| 01:59.07 | Pac2722 | wats a good nod to have? |
| 02:05.41 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:06.00 | JoshBorke | left-to-right |
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| 02:21.03 | a-stray-cat | anyone here enGB? |
| 02:21.51 | Cairenn|afk | Kirkburn and Legorol, iirc |
| 02:22.02 | Kirkburn | yarr |
| 02:22.05 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 02:22.17 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 02:22.24 | a-stray-cat | Kirkburn: could you test an addon for me? :X |
| 02:22.42 | Kirkburn | eep |
| 02:22.43 | a-stray-cat | someone from enGB has a problem i can't reproduce on mine :/ |
| 02:22.48 | a-stray-cat | it's fast actually |
| 02:23.01 | a-stray-cat | you just need to equip a trinket, use it, unequip it, reequip it when its done |
| 02:23.02 | Kirkburn | That's what they all say |
| 02:23.30 | a-stray-cat | be like 2 and a half minutes! :P |
| 02:23.58 | Kirkburn | Wait, no .... arrr, I be a pirate, not some British scallywag! Arrr. Arrr? .... It's not working, is it |
| 02:24.09 | Kirkburn | Which addon? |
| 02:24.57 | a-stray-cat | CooldownTimerBars :o |
| 02:24.59 | Kirkburn | Note that WoW is not on the PC I'm running IRC on, so don't try sending it to me :P |
| 02:25.09 | Kirkburn | CG? |
| 02:25.21 | a-stray-cat | http://files.wowace.com/CooldownTimers2/CooldownTimers2.zip :X |
| 02:25.29 | Kirkburn | Oh, Ace? |
| 02:25.33 | a-stray-cat | yarr |
| 02:25.42 | Kirkburn | Well that makes it much easier! |
| 02:26.03 | zenzelezz | that's what they claim anyway ;-o |
| 02:26.09 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 02:26.12 | Kirkburn | No externals? |
| 02:26.22 | a-stray-cat | it should have externals :P |
| 02:26.29 | a-stray-cat | but if you've got them alraedy i dont see why not ;) |
| 02:27.19 | Kirkburn | I have about 100 Ace addons. I have externals. :) |
| 02:27.55 | Kirkburn | Look, there goes Kaso. You could've asked him :( |
| 02:27.58 | Pac2722 | how do i add nods im new to all this |
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| 02:28.11 | Kirkburn | /nod ? |
| 02:28.14 | Pac2722 | mods* |
| 02:28.23 | a-stray-cat | kaso has already escaped, it seems. |
| 02:28.42 | Kirkburn | That crazy Adys just got a Netherdrake! |
| 02:28.55 | Adys | moo |
| 02:29.04 | a-stray-cat | uhax |
| 02:31.06 | Kirkburn | Yeah, uh, I'm in EPl at level 50 |
| 02:31.15 | Kirkburn | Not many places I can use trinkets :/ |
| 02:31.40 | a-stray-cat | :< you dont have any activating trinkets? |
| 02:31.55 | a-stray-cat | no insigina of the horde? :P |
| 02:31.56 | Kirkburn | one ^^ |
| 02:32.15 | a-stray-cat | one'll do |
| 02:32.31 | Kirkburn | Yup, that was fun. Omfg-type fun |
| 02:32.35 | a-stray-cat | the bug is supposedly the trinket time when you requip it is broken, it shows the long cooldown instead of the 30 second equip cooldown |
| 02:32.55 | Kirkburn | Not getting any errors |
| 02:33.02 | a-stray-cat | not an error, it just uses the wrong time |
| 02:33.16 | Kirkburn | Well ... uh ... this is a 15 min cooldown trinket |
| 02:33.22 | a-stray-cat | oh :< |
| 02:33.46 | a-stray-cat | well, maybe in those 15 minutes i can find someone else from enGB ;O |
| 02:34.18 | Kirkburn | Go me :P |
| 02:34.33 | a-stray-cat | does the 15 minute timer even show up? :X |
| 02:34.39 | Kirkburn | nope |
| 02:34.44 | a-stray-cat | i think thats above the default max time ;o |
| 02:35.23 | Kirkburn | Ah |
| 02:35.27 | Kirkburn | Er |
| 02:35.34 | Kirkburn | Upped the max time |
| 02:35.47 | Kirkburn | Unequipped, equipped - shows the 30 sec cooldown |
| 02:35.57 | a-stray-cat | not the 15 minute one? |
| 02:35.57 | Kirkburn | The item has over 11 mins to go |
| 02:35.59 | a-stray-cat | how very strange |
| 02:36.05 | Kirkburn | No errors |
| 02:36.14 | Mikma | what enGB? |
| 02:36.27 | Shirik | british english |
| 02:36.31 | Adys | when was /mountspecial introduced? |
| 02:36.38 | Kirkburn | Always existed |
| 02:36.50 | Kirkburn | Is it loop-the-loop for the drake too? |
| 02:36.50 | Mikma | Shirik: what about them? |
| 02:36.56 | Shirik | 22:36:57 ‹Mikma› what enGB? |
| 02:37.03 | Kirkburn | Bananas, that's what. |
| 02:37.22 | Mikma | Shirik: 'what is enGB' would have been a question about the meaning of enGB ;) |
| 02:37.22 | a-stray-cat | can you dump the GetInventoryItemCooldown("player", 14orwhatever) for me:X |
| 02:37.24 | Kirkburn | So yeah, it obviously needs the max time to be greater than the trinket time, but it doesn't actually show it |
| 02:37.44 | Kirkburn | english Great Britain |
| 02:37.48 | a-stray-cat | its strange that it would show 30 seconds |
| 02:38.01 | a-stray-cat | i dont store any times for items |
| 02:38.02 | Kirkburn | Mikma, what do you want from me :( |
| 02:38.32 | a-stray-cat | is there a way i can install other locales on my WoW? |
| 02:38.38 | a-stray-cat | that'd be nifty. |
| 02:38.45 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.01 | Kirkburn | Not for USians so far as I know |
| 02:39.09 | Mikma | Kirkburn: hmm yes. blood or virgins. either will be fine |
| 02:39.14 | a-stray-cat | QQ |
| 02:39.24 | Kirkburn | No! The virgins are mine! You can't have them :( |
| 02:40.16 | Kirkburn | Anyway, you want me to "dump the GetInventoryItemCooldown("player", 14orwhatever)" ... I have no idea what that means |
| 02:40.30 | Kirkburn | I'm leik totally awesome. |
| 02:40.39 | a-stray-cat | ./dump GetInventoryItemCooldown("player", trinketslot) |
| 02:40.45 | a-stray-cat | trinketslot is probably 13 or 14 |
| 02:40.46 | a-stray-cat | i dont recall :X |
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| 02:40.56 | Kirkburn | I love how in giant letters it's saying "Tidal Charm ready!" |
| 02:41.06 | a-stray-cat | lol |
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| 02:41.15 | a-stray-cat | that's a 15 minute cooldown? really? |
| 02:41.31 | Kirkburn | 295671.573, 900, 1 |
| 02:41.52 | a-stray-cat | thanks |
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| 02:42.18 | Kirkburn | 3 sec stun, once every 15 mins :/ |
| 02:42.23 | a-stray-cat | that's it for now, i'll have to rig up a debug version then find another suck...volunteer to test for me. |
| 02:42.28 | Kirkburn | My only other trinket is the Argent Dawn Comission |
| 02:42.36 | Kirkburn | And the lights almost went out. That was odd. |
| 02:42.48 | a-stray-cat | sacrifice more virgins. |
| 02:43.00 | Kirkburn | But they keep complaining :( |
| 02:43.27 | a-stray-cat | oh one last test, if you unequip it again does it still show up as 30 seconds? |
| 02:43.58 | Kirkburn | Hmm, no |
| 02:44.07 | Kirkburn | Doesn't show anything |
| 02:44.25 | a-stray-cat | you set the max time to >=900? |
| 02:44.46 | Kirkburn | I was |
| 02:45.19 | Kirkburn | Down to less than 2 mins left now, still nowt |
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| 02:46.46 | a-stray-cat | bah, i need to figure out a way to get an engb client! |
| 02:46.52 | a-stray-cat | can you connect to us servers with engb? |
| 02:47.09 | Kirkburn | Doubt it |
| 02:47.28 | Kirkburn | Anyway, there's little difference between the clients |
| 02:47.58 | AnduinLothar | woo 10 thousand wowi Archaeologist dl's |
| 02:48.02 | a-stray-cat | that doesn't happen on enUS though |
| 02:48.08 | a-stray-cat | so SOMETHING's different :/ |
| 02:48.08 | AnduinLothar | exactly, heh |
| 02:48.09 | Kirkburn | Actually, I lie, I think you can by editing the connection file |
| 02:48.29 | Kirkburn | AL, grats |
| 02:49.51 | a-stray-cat | hm, i wonder if i can just download the enGB client somewhere |
| 02:50.29 | a-stray-cat | does enGB have a 10 day trial program? |
| 02:50.54 | Kirkburn | Yes, the EU business works quite similar to the NA |
| 02:50.55 | AnduinLothar | course curse has 200 thousand Arch dls.. |
| 02:51.21 | a-stray-cat | a 10 day trial program that includes a download of the game? |
| 02:51.39 | Kirkburn | Check the site! |
| 02:51.45 | a-stray-cat | if so, i must find someone who's willing to part with one of their guest passes ;P |
| 02:51.52 | a-stray-cat | i can't get past the part where it asks you for the key |
| 02:52.02 | Kirkburn | Also - http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors#Full_Client_Download |
| 02:52.38 | a-stray-cat | oh, sweet |
| 02:52.39 | a-stray-cat | thanks |
| 02:53.12 | Shirik | 22:51:38 ‹+AnduinLothar› course curse has 200 thousand Arch dls.. |
| 02:53.21 | Shirik | It will also take you 5 years to find them |
| 02:53.38 | AnduinLothar | find what, arch on curse? |
| 02:53.45 | Shirik | find anything |
| 02:53.50 | AnduinLothar | obviously someone's able to find them |
| 02:54.14 | AnduinLothar | so it looks like UnitIsFeignDeath has a range |
| 02:54.24 | Shirik | that's still better than what we had |
| 02:54.30 | AnduinLothar | not really |
| 02:54.39 | Shirik | well you can guarantee UnitIsFeignDeath "player" will always be right |
| 02:54.43 | AnduinLothar | group buffs dont have a range |
| 02:54.45 | Shirik | and that's all we used to have |
| 02:55.08 | Shirik | and there's nothing stopping you from still scanning group buffs |
| 02:55.56 | AnduinLothar | except for the fact that UnitIsFeignDeath SOUNDS liek it should be useful for group members |
| 02:56.12 | AnduinLothar | w/e. i just augmented it |
| 02:56.30 | AnduinLothar | works on everyone now |
| 02:57.01 | AnduinLothar | cept mouseover i spose |
| 02:58.52 | Pac2722 | so wats a good mod to have im new to all this |
| 03:00.20 | JoshBorke | Pac2722: one that provides a feature you want |
| 03:00.52 | a-stray-cat | WoW enGB downloading at 2.6k/s, I'll be done in 3 weeks woot! |
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| 03:01.29 | Pac2722 | well i want any thing that will help me lvl is there 1? |
| 03:01.30 | Scre3m | anyone using Logitech G7 |
| 03:04.38 | JoshBorke | Pac2722: help you lvl how? no addon can play the game for you |
| 03:05.34 | Pac2722 | is there a mod for maps to show wat lvl the mobs r? |
| 03:05.55 | JoshBorke | i believe cartographer does that |
| 03:06.00 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 03:08.06 | Pac2722 | thnx |
| 03:09.00 | sysrage | i have a gem macro (i'm a mage). pre-patch it used to show cooldown timer for 2nd gem after i used 1st one. now it just automagically switches back to a question mark. any way i can get it to show cooldown after 1st gem is used now? |
| 03:09.37 | sysrage | somethin with the # tooltip stuff i assume |
| 03:20.22 | cladhaire | http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/rprice80/kji.jpg |
| 03:20.32 | cladhaire | http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb182/nazdrala/INVARMY.jpg?t=1180017561 |
| 03:21.00 | cladhaire | http://192.220.111.88/constushin.jpg |
| 03:23.20 | Legorol | cladhaire: the invisible army one is great |
| 03:23.24 | Legorol | the rest i don't get |
| 03:23.41 | Osagasu | I get the third one. |
| 03:23.45 | Osagasu | It just isn't funny. |
| 03:24.26 | cladhaire | its not ha ha funny |
| 03:24.29 | cladhaire | its true funny, yes. |
| 03:24.42 | cladhaire | but it shoudl have been gonzales |
| 03:25.53 | Osagasu | Legorol, about... 8 or so months ago? |
| 03:25.54 | Tain | Vote Quimby! |
| 03:26.35 | Osagasu | GW signed a bill into law that allowed him to declare anyone an enemy of the state, and thus nullify their right to habeas corpus. |
| 03:27.15 | cladhaire | not only that |
| 03:27.48 | cladhaire | but the Attorney General stated that the constitution doesn't grant us the right of habeas corpus, but only stipulates that our right cannot be taken away at any time. |
| 03:27.54 | cladhaire | _if_ we have it. |
| 03:30.26 | Shadowed | wait.... |
| 03:30.45 | Shadowed | So it can never be taken away if we have it, but GW can take it away? |
| 03:31.00 | JoshBorke | Shadowed: ping |
| 03:31.04 | Shadowed | JoshBorke: die |
| 03:31.09 | cladhaire | Shadowed: ping |
| 03:31.21 | Osagasu | lolwut? |
| 03:31.28 | Shadowed | I've had my sound muted for the last 4 hours |
| 03:31.53 | cladhaire | lol |
| 03:31.53 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 03:33.44 | JoshBorke | nn claddy |
| 03:33.45 | Shadowed | clad|sleep: ping |
| 03:33.45 | Osagasu | pong |
| 03:35.46 | Osagasu | Oh no! DTA has killed my Firefox! |
| 03:36.07 | Osagasu | ...Okay, it just had to burp. |
| 03:39.06 | Industrial | they need to add a "the internets" to where are you from kinds of forms on websites. |
| 03:39.34 | Industrial | anyway nn |
| 03:39.50 | Osagasu | Ind has been to 4chan too much |
| 03:48.41 | Kirkburn | I love Outland so much! Pity there's nowt much you can do at 50 :/ |
| 03:54.04 | VoiDRaider | Night all :) |
| 03:54.50 | kergoth | just got my hunter to 50.. i hate the 50-58 range :( |
| 03:55.10 | Kirkburn | draenei? |
| 03:56.13 | Kirkburn | Now that my hearth is in Shattrath, I really want to start levelling here :/ |
| 03:56.41 | Kirkburn | Not sure where to level in Azeroth atm. All my quests seem to be higher level than me now (lack on instances, I guesS) |
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| 04:16.20 | Tem | Kirkburn|afk, WPL |
| 04:16.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Already done Sorrow Hill :/ |
| 04:16.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Next quest is level 52! argh |
| 04:17.04 | Shirik | I think |
| 04:17.08 | Shirik | 50-60 is the hardest |
| 04:17.18 | Shirik | really 55-60 |
| 04:17.25 | Shirik | well, now more like 53-58 |
| 04:17.39 | Shirik | since 58 is really when you can start really doing stuff in outlands |
| 04:18.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Un'goro is reasonably promising - and I found I have a quest line to complete for Linken (the one where you kill yourself ^^). I really just need to get to 51, then the 50+ areas become fun at last |
| 04:19.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Oooh, felwood? |
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| 04:27.42 | Osagasu | I didn't really like ungoro |
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| 04:36.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, I love the way the latest Simpsons film trailer says at the end "This film is not yet rated or finished" |
| 04:36.55 | Adys | go to sleep.. |
| 04:36.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, they've only got 2 months to go ... |
| 04:37.12 | Kirkburn|afk | I got up less then 12 hours ago :/ |
| 04:37.20 | Adys | bleh |
| 04:37.26 | Adys | well me too actually |
| 04:37.31 | Kirkburn|afk | The new trailer: http://www.simpsonschannel.com/cgi-bin/newspro/addons/iSay.cgi?Page=Comments&ID=EEZAAkyVElSshrNHFL |
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| 05:07.24 | Thunder_Child | what changed Cairenn|afk? |
| 05:07.40 | Thunder_Child | oh..nvm |
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| 07:03.14 | Corrodias | i find the mid 30's to be the worst |
| 07:03.29 | Corrodias | hell, the whole 30's |
| 07:03.49 | Corrodias | so many quests that tell you to do way too much travelling without a mount |
| 07:04.05 | Corrodias | after 48, it seemed like a breeze |
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| 07:33.17 | Corrodias | hmm. i need tips on gathering netherwing eggs. |
| 07:34.44 | Thunder_Child | "pick up & place in sack" |
| 07:35.22 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: Where is a ReadMe or directions for Cartographer? I can't seem to find one after looking in the folders and online? |
| 07:35.36 | ckknight | press m to open the map |
| 07:35.42 | ckknight | click the Cartographer button |
| 07:36.12 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer |
| 07:37.08 | Mike-N-Go | How is one to know that '/way' is the waypoints? Without Thunder_Child's link, I wouldn't have. |
| 07:37.21 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks, Thunder_Child =) |
| 07:37.26 | Thunder_Child | welcome |
| 07:39.02 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: I think if you hover over the Waypoints menu option, it says so in the tooltip |
| 07:39.19 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: I did '/way 72, 69' and got 'Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua line 653: attempt to compare number with nil' |
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| 07:39.30 | ckknight | yea, don't put the space |
| 07:40.13 | Mike-N-Go | Well, how am I to know to look a foot away at my tool tip =P I would have thought that it would have been in the menu I expanded.. |
| 07:40.33 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: Great mod BTW!, thanks for having it promptly updated for 2.1. |
| 07:40.39 | ckknight | yep |
| 07:42.32 | Mike-N-Go | I have read about something like putting in several waypoints, and drawing a path between them, does Cartographer do this? |
| 07:43.25 | ckknight | no line, but you can have a chain |
| 07:44.17 | Mike-N-Go | All it says in the Waypoint tool tip is 'Module which shows an arrow to direct you to a specified note or location.' No indication about '/way' |
| 07:44.23 | Mike-N-Go | How does one do that? |
| 07:45.34 | ckknight | just make multiple waypoints |
| 07:46.18 | Corrodias | okay, i could use tips for -finding- the eggs. :) |
| 07:46.43 | Thunder_Child | thanks Corrodias, you make it so easy for me to be an asshole :) |
| 07:47.30 | Corrodias | hah |
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| 07:49.03 | Thunder_Child | hmm...well nothing according to wowhead |
| 07:50.05 | Thunder_Child | or thott |
| 07:50.11 | Corrodias | yeah, i've been researching comments but haven't found good advice. i tried the run through the mine but i got approximately one after several hours. i saw another one, but a gnome got there first |
| 07:50.29 | Corrodias | i can only assume they're playing on unpopulated realms :P |
| 07:53.36 | Thunder_Child | ok, i have to get up in 9 hrs...night all |
| 07:54.17 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: I would find a ReadMe, if only a link to the WiKi. |
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| 07:55.21 | Corrodias | <Mike-N-Go> ckknight: I would find a ReadMe, if only a link to the WiKi. |
| 07:55.36 | Mike-N-Go | Or, a direction to find the usage in the About thing. |
| 07:55.45 | Mike-N-Go | Sorry, trying to not die and speak =/ |
| 07:56.00 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: I would find a ReadMe helpful, if only a link to the WiKi. |
| 08:08.18 | Mike-N-Go | In Cartographer, is there a way to define a 'zone' not just a waypoint? |
| 08:10.57 | ckknight | http://f8d.org/?c=49 |
| 08:11.15 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: like an area? no, not currently |
| 08:11.47 | Mike-N-Go | How about, select what waypoint for the pointer to point to? Or, is it the closest one? |
| 08:12.19 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: Like a geometric shape, say, one that has 4 sides, or 3, etc. |
| 08:12.29 | ckknight | I already said no |
| 08:12.37 | ckknight | no areas |
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| 08:16.20 | Corrodias | no areas for you |
| 08:16.23 | Corrodias | map nazi has spoken |
| 08:16.46 | Corrodias | :) |
| 08:16.51 | Corrodias | smiley face makes it all better |
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| 08:51.18 | Mike-N-Go | I once had a mod that put 'x/y mob' for quest mobs that I needed to kill, and items, and the such, before 2.1, anyone know what kinda mod does taht? |
| 08:51.48 | Iriel | MonkeyQuest used to do it, I have no idea what's out there at present tho |
| 08:53.28 | Mike-N-Go | that* |
| 08:55.11 | Shadowed | LightHeaded? |
| 08:55.25 | Shadowed | Sadly clad makes it, and he sucks but it's not that bad! |
| 08:56.01 | Mike-N-Go | It is rather interesting, how dependent we get used to the data from our mods.. then they are broken =D |
| 08:56.27 | Shadowed | Other peoples addons breaking is just an excuse to recode them |
| 08:56.57 | Mike-N-Go | Breaking, as in from a patch, I mean |
| 08:57.19 | Shadowed | Other peoples addons breaking is just an excuse to recode them |
| 08:57.28 | Mike-N-Go | Never uesed LightHead, how is that? |
| 08:57.31 | Mike-N-Go | used* |
| 08:58.04 | Shadowed | Never got it to work myself but I memorized most of the quest locations from my other characters anyway |
| 08:58.26 | Mike-N-Go | Heh, nice one, Shadowed, be a good way to learn =D, I think I may attempt to fix some. |
| 08:58.27 | Shadowed | but if it works according to the description, then it gives quest comments which give mob location/info |
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| 09:29.59 | Wobin | Any dongle devs on? |
| 09:31.29 | Shadowed | probably not, but whats the question? maybe able to answer it |
| 09:31.35 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:31.46 | Wobin | nm for the moment, I foudn the wikidocs |
| 09:31.53 | Wobin | Let me hammer at it for a bit before asking |
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| 09:32.22 | Shadowed | I require sleep, so try ping spamming Tem for the next 8-9 hours and I can answer it then if you're still on then =p |
| 09:34.21 | Wobin | kk =) |
| 09:36.14 | Wobin | Shadowed: I'm not sure how the slashcommand registering works |
| 09:36.18 | Wobin | (if you're still around) |
| 09:43.02 | Mike-N-Go | I found the mod I was thinking of, for 'x/y mob', QuestsFu with hacked TOC. |
| 09:43.35 | Mike-N-Go | It is amazing how many mods I have found that still function by just updating the TOC, G'Night guys. |
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| 09:58.55 | Tem | Wobin, you needed something? |
| 09:59.02 | Tem | I was busy getting my best arena rating ever |
| 09:59.07 | Tem | with a very strange team |
| 09:59.31 | Wobin | Tem: No worries, I figured it out =) |
| 09:59.37 | Tem | okay cool |
| 09:59.42 | Wobin | <3 Dongle |
| 09:59.50 | Tem | rogue-mage works a lot better than I would have expected |
| 09:59.56 | Tem | (for 2v2) |
| 10:00.03 | Wobin | how's the synergy work? |
| 10:00.45 | Tem | sap + sheep + blind = we can shut down one person a really long time |
| 10:00.56 | Tem | while both of us go balls out on the other |
| 10:01.37 | Tem | he's a stunlock spec and I'm fire so he can shut down the other person while I kill them |
| 10:01.42 | Tem | (in the ideal match) |
| 10:01.56 | Tem | so far, our favorite matchup is pally priest |
| 10:02.12 | Tem | followed closely by priest, shaman |
| 10:02.18 | Tem | and shaman warrior |
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| 10:03.36 | Luminax | I'm back again |
| 10:03.39 | Luminax | yay Iriel's here :3 |
| 10:03.54 | Iriel | Only for a minute or two before I pass out and sleep |
| 10:04.15 | Luminax | as long as I've seen you once ;P |
| 10:04.36 | Luminax | short question : what event(s) is fired when you sell stuffs to vendor ? |
| 10:04.42 | Luminax | is it just PLAYER_MONEY ? |
| 10:04.54 | Iriel | You'd get some bag events too I'd imagine |
| 10:05.03 | Luminax | ah yes, items disappear from bag |
| 10:05.10 | Luminax | okay so PLAYER_MONEY event, bag event, what else ? |
| 10:05.23 | Iriel | I'm not sure, I haven't played with vendors much |
| 10:06.33 | Iriel | Install DevTools, do /dtevents, and see what comes up when you sell something? |
| 10:06.33 | Luminax | like supposed I want to track all transaction ever made for my characters, and one of the thing I want to track is what have I bought or sold to vendors, what they are, how much, and etc |
| 10:06.33 | Luminax | oooh yes |
| 10:06.33 | Luminax | I have that |
| 10:06.33 | Tem | there might be something for updating the latest buyback slot |
| 10:06.33 | Luminax | haven't gotten used to it yet |
| 10:06.33 | Luminax | ah yes buyback |
| 10:06.34 | Luminax | mmmm |
| 10:06.34 | Luminax | merchantframe have these events registered |
| 10:06.36 | Luminax | MERCHANT_UPDATE |
| 10:06.42 | Luminax | ditto _CLOSED |
| 10:06.45 | Tem | that's for showing quantities of items imo |
| 10:06.46 | Luminax | ditto _SHOW |
| 10:06.58 | Luminax | so it is hmmm |
| 10:07.20 | Tem | and I'd bet that the merchant's items aren't visible yet at MERCHANT_SHOW |
| 10:07.21 | Luminax | a word of encouragement or discouragement... what I'm trying to accomplish is not impossible is it ? |
| 10:07.32 | Iriel | It should be entirely possible |
| 10:07.33 | Tem | and they appear at the first MERCHANT_UPDATE |
| 10:07.36 | Luminax | yay |
| 10:07.57 | Iriel | But I suspect it'll also be rather fiddly |
| 10:08.01 | Luminax | I suppose I can do multiple event checks |
| 10:08.17 | Tem | you'd have to play games with event order |
| 10:08.22 | Luminax | yeah |
| 10:08.25 | Tem | and pray there aren't too many pathological cases |
| 10:08.26 | Luminax | like which events fires first |
| 10:08.33 | Luminax | hrmmm |
| 10:08.50 | Luminax | for a first-timer I'm already trying to chew on something ginormous am I not :o |
| 10:09.10 | Iriel | And on that nightmareish note (spell events) i'm off to sleep |
| 10:09.14 | Iriel | I stayed up FAR too late |
| 10:09.17 | Luminax | hrhr |
| 10:09.20 | Luminax | have a good one |
| 10:09.22 | Tem | not /too/ bad, but as iriel said, it'd be pretty fidly |
| 10:09.25 | Tem | later, Iriel |
| 10:09.33 | Tem | and really, it's bedtime for me too |
| 10:09.41 | Tem | I stayed up way too later again doing arena |
| 10:09.46 | Luminax | it's afternoon/early evening here heh |
| 10:09.47 | Tem | (AH! it's so much fun!) |
| 10:09.51 | Tem | it's 5AM |
| 10:09.54 | Luminax | I haven't done arena, at all |
| 10:10.00 | Luminax | 18:09 here |
| 10:10.01 | Tem | I _love_ 2v2 |
| 10:10.19 | Tem | I'm best at 1v1, and 2v2 is the next best thing |
| 10:10.35 | Luminax | there should be a gladiator last-man-standing arena :( |
| 10:10.45 | Tem | gg pallies, rogues, hunters |
| 10:10.48 | Luminax | not counting the one in STV |
| 10:10.52 | Luminax | lol... |
| 10:11.05 | Luminax | if there's 5 hunters and they all feigned death... |
| 10:11.13 | Luminax | who's winning lol |
| 10:11.16 | Tem | lol |
| 10:11.42 | Luminax | should made you be disqualified if you vanish/fd/pally bubble |
| 10:11.54 | Luminax | or rather, put into 'backburner' |
| 10:12.04 | Luminax | anyway... time to load WoW |
| 10:12.14 | Luminax | good time to farm, this |
| 10:12.23 | Corrodias | paladins and rogues are so designed for pvp >:/ |
| 10:12.33 | Corrodias | paladins even moreso than rogues, i'm thinking |
| 10:12.36 | Luminax | with the exception of dpsdin |
| 10:12.53 | Luminax | healadin can just outlast their opponent |
| 10:12.55 | Corrodias | they're not all that amazing in pve, because keeping yourself alive isn't the most useful of skills |
| 10:12.55 | Luminax | and so can tankadin |
| 10:13.05 | Luminax | true Corrodias lol |
| 10:13.08 | Corrodias | when you're the healer, anyway |
| 10:13.18 | Luminax | rogue can keep themselves alive, but what good would that do in a wipe ? |
| 10:13.23 | Corrodias | as a tank, i haven't evaluated them enough |
| 10:13.27 | Luminax | unless you have a 100% success rate jumper cable |
| 10:13.34 | Corrodias | i wish |
| 10:13.50 | Corrodias | well, since i came in here to complain about it, i found 3 netherwing eggs |
| 10:13.56 | Luminax | though my friend who's a rogue with enchanting and engineering have saved us quite a few wipes |
| 10:14.12 | Corrodias | i'm finding lately that complaining about WoW makes things go my way. perhaps they've just built ESP Into the game so that it responds to whiners so the devs don't have to. |
| 10:14.21 | Luminax | I tell you |
| 10:14.26 | Luminax | they have a function built into the game |
| 10:14.34 | Luminax | one of them is to check how many quest items you need left |
| 10:14.45 | Luminax | once you need like 1-3 items left |
| 10:14.55 | Luminax | droprate = 0.000001% |
| 10:15.17 | Luminax | I've felt this on sooo many occasion I'm believing my own spindoctor theory now |
| 10:15.58 | Corrodias | interesting. i haven't experienced this, no |
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| 10:23.37 | Tem | I think they've just hired a GM to follow me around |
| 10:23.40 | Tem | and screw with me |
| 10:23.55 | Luminax | hehe |
| 10:23.57 | Tem | I blame him for sheep failing 7 times in a row in one of our matches earlier |
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| 10:29.30 | Corrodias | perhaps tomorrow i'll finally reach exalted with cenarion expedition. then... hmm, it's hard to get heroic sethekk halls going. |
| 10:29.54 | Corrodias | very few of my guild seems to be keyed for heroic auchindoun and pugs for heroics are, i think, not so common |
| 10:30.03 | Corrodias | seems > seem |
| 10:32.44 | JunkHead-Work | I tried my first heroic the other day. |
| 10:32.47 | JunkHead-Work | It was fun. |
| 10:33.45 | Corrodias | they certainly are a blast |
| 10:33.46 | JunkHead-Work | We did Slave Pens. |
| 10:34.07 | JunkHead-Work | I have to leave early, but we downed the big lobster boss. |
| 10:34.12 | JunkHead-Work | Didn't have any problems up until that part. |
| 10:34.32 | Corrodias | when normal steamvault is to the point of being boring because you can almost (or actually) handle two groups at once, the heroics provide something interesting to do |
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| 10:35.14 | Corrodias | and heroic sethekk halls with the raven god boss has a chance to give you the "raven lord" land mount. thus my interest. |
| 10:35.17 | JunkHead-Work | There are a few instances I really hate. |
| 10:35.27 | JunkHead-Work | And will most likely NEVER do a heroic of. |
| 10:35.46 | JunkHead-Work | Namely Black morass, Mana Tombs, and possibly Shattered Halls. |
| 10:36.13 | Corrodias | i don't know if heroic black morass is all that hard, but the other two are brutal |
| 10:36.13 | Corrodias | or so i hear |
| 10:36.24 | JunkHead-Work | I hate BM.:\ |
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| 10:41.18 | Luminax | why everyone seems to not be keyed for Auchindoun ? because almost everyone I've asked to run Shadow Lab seems to shun away from it |
| 10:41.29 | Luminax | even though Shadow Labyrinth is such a fun dungeon :( |
| 10:42.23 | Corrodias | fun? i dunno, seems about normal |
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| 10:42.54 | Corrodias | but lower city was the last faction for me to get revered with, myself |
| 10:43.31 | Corrodias | i think it may just take longer... in addition to being unpopular, at least for your crowd |
| 10:43.50 | Corrodias | children's week should help with that a little |
| 10:44.08 | Corrodias | anyway, i need to get to bed. sethekk halls and netherwing quests won't finish themselves! |
| 10:46.50 | Luminax | it's a fun dungeon really |
| 10:47.04 | Luminax | you got a boss that mass mind control and watch gleefully |
| 10:47.20 | Luminax | and you got a boss akin to Ragnaros only the 5-man version |
| 10:47.34 | Luminax | in fact if Murmur's health are full I think you need a raid to down him |
| 10:48.13 | Luminax | oh! not to mention a boss that flocks you with tons of voidwalkers ;D |
| 10:50.38 | Luminax | grrrr too many events to monitor >< |
| 10:53.01 | Luminax | hrmmm |
| 10:53.12 | Luminax | have to set a LUA locals to keep track of all these >< |
| 10:53.24 | Luminax | or global ? hm |
| 11:00.18 | foxlit | Luminax: Murmur is easy and sustainable! |
| 11:00.30 | Luminax | yarr |
| 11:00.31 | foxlit | Even if he was at 100%, that'd just mean a longer fight :P |
| 11:00.37 | Luminax | true that |
| 11:00.49 | Luminax | but still means more chance to screw up ;D |
| 11:01.01 | Luminax | and there's also the healer's mana to consider |
| 11:01.15 | foxlit | I play a healer. It's a breeze if people aren't complete dimwits. |
| 11:01.24 | foxlit | Even on heroic :P |
| 11:01.44 | foxlit | But anyhow :) |
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| 12:07.12 | Wobin | Any wowi admins able to approve an addon? |
| 12:07.17 | Wobin | (on atm?) |
| 12:08.29 | nevcairiel | cladhaire was lurking around |
| 12:09.18 | Wobin | he totally is |
| 12:09.19 | cladhaire | gimme a moment |
| 12:09.22 | Wobin | woo! |
| 12:09.43 | cladhaire | Wobin: can you repack it without the .svn files? |
| 12:09.48 | cladhaire | or did you intend to distribute it that way? |
| 12:09.51 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:09.54 | cladhaire | actually |
| 12:09.57 | Wobin | I thought I did. Sure, I'll redo it |
| 12:10.01 | cladhaire | hold ona sec |
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| 15:00.49 | Kaso | Downloading stuff so fast my hard drive is going crazy trying to keep up ^^two downloads at 3900kb/s |
| 15:01.01 | Shirik | ha |
| 15:01.30 | Kaso | i love my uni net connection when i find a good download source |
| 15:01.44 | Shirik | my university connection just plain sucks |
| 15:01.57 | Shirik | I'm just glad they've made WoW immune to the restrictions |
| 15:02.24 | Shirik | it intentionally slows to a crawl if it notices a persistant connection that's eating a lot of bandwidth |
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| 16:26.47 | Shirik | I think I have a chinese farmer in my group |
| 16:26.54 | Cide | is it you? |
| 16:26.58 | Shirik | the way he .. |
| 16:27.00 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:27.35 | Shirik | how he puts a space before every exclamation point (btw every sentence ends with an exclamation point) and just the way he talks |
| 16:27.44 | Shirik | I asked him what his first language was he said "gutterspeak" -_- |
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| 16:51.08 | Kaso | Howcome the ChatFrame text justification + itemlinks thing has never been fixed |
| 16:51.12 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: french do that, too :p (the space before punctuation) |
| 16:51.30 | Shirik | yeah I know |
| 16:51.40 | Shirik | I just know his first language isn't english and he won't tell me what :( |
| 16:57.17 | Shirik | RF you could always tell if you were with a chinese farmer. It's like they had a script (a horribly written one)... they always talked the exact same way |
| 16:58.28 | Shirik | "Party me OK?" |
| 16:58.30 | Shirik | hehe |
| 16:58.52 | Gnarfoz | yay, security tools are now officially illegal in Germany -.- http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/90255/ |
| 16:58.54 | Shirik | you tank gogo |
| 16:58.59 | Shirik | ??! |
| 16:59.28 | Shirik | what do you mean? |
| 16:59.36 | Shirik | (would read but in mana tombs) |
| 16:59.46 | Gnarfoz | hard to explain, read it later ;) |
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| 17:46.42 | Mike-N-Go | Wobin: I have a bad connection.. you there? |
| 17:50.15 | leethal | getRaidRosterInfo() annoys me.. when I join a raid - RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE - I call getRaidRosterInfo() on a GetNumRaidMembers() loop, but getRaidRosterInfo() returns nil and stuff and crap |
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| 17:51.28 | leethal | is there some magic solution, or am i probably doing something wrong? |
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| 18:01.45 | Mike-N-Go | Well, leethal, wouldn't it be GetGraidInfo()? |
| 18:02.19 | Mike-N-Go | GetRaidRosterInfo() |
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| 18:15.36 | Shirik | Graid? |
| 18:15.58 | Shirik | and yes, it's GetRaidRosterInfo() |
| 18:16.09 | Shirik | and leethal's totally not here |
| 18:16.38 | Shirik | I'm not sure if this is a bug, but I know we encountered a problem with RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE, we defer all updates until one frame later |
| 18:17.15 | Shirik | when we receive a RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE, what we do in RDX is schedule a SigRaidRosterUpdate on the next frame, which is sent out to all the modules. That way all the processing is done one frame after RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 18:17.19 | Shirik | and then we didn't have a problem |
| 18:17.29 | Shirik | it may have been fixed too we just kept it that way |
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| 18:25.26 | Luminax | I'm back again yay |
| 18:25.27 | Luminax | hey cladhaire |
| 18:33.54 | Luminax | hmm anyone here ? |
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| 18:35.54 | Luminax | hello amro |
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| 18:38.31 | Luminax | hey Mike |
| 18:38.54 | Mike-N-Go | Luminax: Hey. |
| 18:39.08 | Luminax | woo someone's alive ;D |
| 18:39.29 | Luminax | trying to Incite Chaos |
| 18:39.34 | Luminax | err... I mean incite responses... |
| 18:40.21 | Luminax | meh |
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| 18:44.55 | sioraiocht | are macros for secure action buttons limited to 255 characters? |
| 18:47.06 | cladhaire | that question was for me =) |
| 18:48.14 | Kaso | sioraiocht pretty sure they are not, but i havent tested that |
| 18:48.20 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 18:48.28 | cladhaire | i can test with clique, lol brb |
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| 18:54.56 | Nerinia | Not limited :D |
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| 19:00.38 | Kaso | Howcome the ChatFrame text justification + itemlinks thing has never been fixed! |
| 19:01.24 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 19:01.50 | Kaso | if you set justify to right on your chatframe, the "clickable" part of the itemlinks remains on the left |
| 19:01.55 | Kaso | its been like that for years |
| 19:03.53 | Shirik|Ecole | yuck |
| 19:04.19 | Kaso | i'd guess right now its the longest standing know about bug. |
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| 19:06.56 | Nerinia | Mh, maybe RunMacroText() is limited to 1000 characters |
| 19:08.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I thought RunMacroText() is protected now? |
| 19:09.16 | Nerinia | Yes, it is. But you can call it with the "macro" type attribute |
| 19:09.30 | Shirik|Ecole | ah yeah |
| 19:09.41 | Shirik|Ecole | so you have a frame with macrotext of > 1000 characters then? |
| 19:09.43 | Shirik|Ecole | and it's not working? |
| 19:10.07 | Shirik|Ecole | perhaps there's an alternative; what are you trying to do? |
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| 19:12.31 | foxlit | For long macros, use /click across multiple SABs? |
| 19:13.47 | foxlit | Hm |
| 19:13.51 | foxlit | That gives me an interesting idea. |
| 19:14.02 | Luminax | hey Shirik hey foxlit |
| 19:14.03 | foxlit | Let's see if I can break /click another way :P |
| 19:14.09 | Luminax | question !!! |
| 19:14.16 | Shirik|Ecole | oh god, another RP post about nightbane being killed >< |
| 19:14.19 | Shirik|Ecole | this should be fun |
| 19:14.20 | Shirik|Ecole | sup |
| 19:14.29 | foxlit | Evening :) |
| 19:14.43 | Luminax | from checking DevTools I found this sequence of events from opening merchant and selling or buying items |
| 19:14.45 | Shirik|Ecole | "Shirik, at home in both the jungle and the rooftop, unloaded round after finely crafted round into both the rising skeletons and the undead dragon, bullets tearing chunks of bone and charred flesh from the undead beings." |
| 19:14.46 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl |
| 19:15.13 | Luminax | gah actually nevermind... couldn't find it anymore |
| 19:15.22 | Luminax | should've stopped event collecting when I got to the one I want >< |
| 19:17.41 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 19:17.44 | Shirik|Ecole | well what are you trying to do? |
| 19:18.52 | Luminax | trying to track transaction from and to npc merchants |
| 19:19.03 | Luminax | when merchant windows are opened, there's a MERCHANT_SHOW event triggered |
| 19:19.29 | Luminax | subsequently when an item is bought from merchant |
| 19:19.48 | Luminax | all the ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED and BAG_UPDATE and MERCHANT_UPDATE triggered |
| 19:20.02 | Shirik|Ecole | BAG_UPDATE is important |
| 19:20.24 | Shirik|Ecole | it signals that at least one of your bags' contents have changed |
| 19:20.25 | Luminax | I'm guessing I can set a local 'toggle' variable that can be assigned a value when event "MERCHANT_SHOW" is triggered and cleared when "MERCHANT_CLOSED" fired, yes ? |
| 19:20.36 | Shirik|Ecole | sure |
| 19:20.38 | Luminax | would that be good to 'track' transactions at merchants ? |
| 19:21.11 | Shirik|Ecole | well when BAG_UPDATE is fired, you know that the inventory contents have changed, but be careful |
| 19:21.29 | Shirik|Ecole | if you destroy something while at a vendor, you can be in MERCHANT_SHOW but have a BAG_UPDATE fired (which would look like a sale) |
| 19:21.42 | Shirik|Ecole | btw, I have no idea how to do what you want to do, I'm just working you through it |
| 19:21.43 | Luminax | well |
| 19:21.46 | Shirik|Ecole | this is how I would do it, knowing what I know |
| 19:21.47 | Luminax | there's ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED |
| 19:22.08 | Luminax | and I can detect item bought because CHAT_MSG_LOOT also fired when you buy something |
| 19:22.22 | Shirik|Ecole | right but not when you sell |
| 19:22.27 | Shirik|Ecole | buying something isn't too big of a deal |
| 19:22.35 | Luminax | PLAYER_MONEY firing before CHAT_MSG_LOOT kinda complicates thing |
| 19:22.45 | Luminax | eh.. if I sell |
| 19:22.49 | Luminax | PLAYER_MONEY will fire |
| 19:22.58 | Luminax | so I'll just detect that in the scope of MERCHANT_SHOW |
| 19:23.14 | Shirik|Ecole | that would work |
| 19:23.22 | Shirik|Ecole | actually PLAYER_MONEY should |
| 19:23.30 | Shirik|Ecole | nah nm, there are cases where your money wouldn't be changed |
| 19:23.51 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah, combination of CHAT_MSG_LOOT and PLAYER_MONEY will do well |
| 19:26.05 | Luminax | woot |
| 19:26.05 | Luminax | I'm starting to see the light ! :D |
| 19:26.33 | foxlit | Hm, /click has a funny way of caching button names |
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| 19:28.05 | Nerinia | "ClickButtonCache", haha ok :D |
| 19:29.03 | Nerinia | Is getglobal really that slow? |
| 19:30.37 | foxlit | You seeing that in code? |
| 19:31.04 | Shirik|Ecole | getglobal is very slow |
| 19:31.20 | Shirik|Ecole | globals are slow in general, getglobal is worse |
| 19:31.34 | foxlit | There's another reason to cache |
| 19:31.39 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 19:31.53 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 19:31.55 | Shirik|Ecole | now, if purl had this cached |
| 19:31.56 | Esamynn | Shirik|Ecole: globals are not that slow |
| 19:31.58 | Shirik|Ecole | it would be much faster! :D |
| 19:32.04 | Shirik|Ecole | they're slower than their local equivalents |
| 19:32.06 | Esamynn | the problem with GetGlobal is that it is a C API |
| 19:32.10 | Nerinia | Purl, cache your answers! |
| 19:32.33 | Shirik|Ecole | right |
| 19:33.03 | Shirik|Ecole | it really depends on how you define "slow" I guess |
| 19:33.09 | Shirik|Ecole | but in my opinion, globals are very slow |
| 19:33.23 | Esamynn | Nerinia: I believe _G[someString] would be faster that getglobal(someString) |
| 19:33.39 | foxlit | >>> getglobal, _G |
| 19:33.40 | Cide | foxlit: function: 0038AA78, { ["log"] = function: 00389E48, ["wow"] = { ["strconcat"] = function: 0038AA58, ["strtrim"] = function: 0038A9B8, ["debugstack"] = function: 0038AAB8, ["getglobal"] = function: 00... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 19:33.50 | haste | table lookup vs function call |
| 19:33.55 | Kaso | if _G is a local copy even faster :> |
| 19:33.56 | Esamynn | Shirik|Ecole: gobals are the same speed as a table lookup |
| 19:34.02 | Shirik|Ecole | this is true |
| 19:34.28 | Shirik|Ecole | (15:33:00) (+Esamynn) Nerinia: I believe _G[someString] would be faster that getglobal(someString) |
| 19:34.30 | Shirik|Ecole | is also true |
| 19:34.32 | Esamynn | actually, there is a tiny bit of extra overhead, but that overhead is smaller than even a the overhead of a local |
| 19:35.05 | Esamynn | I've tested it actually, looking something up in the global env table is faster than a lookup from a table to which you have a local pointer |
| 19:35.22 | Nerinia | Mh, interessting |
| 19:35.26 | Shirik|Ecole | The GETGLOBAL operation is slower than a local equivalent, period |
| 19:35.28 | foxlit | Ah, they patched it |
| 19:35.30 | Luminax | hey what do I need to add in the OnEvent to properly parse CHAT_MSG_LOOT's item link ? |
| 19:35.34 | foxlit | The point is not that getglobal is slower |
| 19:35.47 | Shirik|Ecole | GETGLOBAL is not getglobal |
| 19:35.49 | foxlit | The point is that I can swap globals and you can be none the wiser |
| 19:35.59 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm referring to bytecode now |
| 19:36.15 | Esamynn | aye |
| 19:36.47 | Shirik|Ecole | in any case |
| 19:37.03 | foxlit | It sort of prevents /click ThisButtonImGoingToOverwriteOnPreClick |
| 19:37.13 | Shirik|Ecole | the use of globals is so liberal in the WoW API you can't really get around without them, and any effort to do this is really limited in performance gain |
| 19:38.16 | Shadowed | Shirik|Ecole: Getglobal is slower then _G by like 0.000000000000001 |
| 19:38.31 | Shirik|Ecole | if that's in hours, I would belive it |
| 19:38.46 | Shirik|Ecole | believe* |
| 19:38.58 | foxlit | >>> for i=1,128 do if 2^i+1-2^i ~= 1 then print(i); return; end end print("Meh") |
| 19:38.59 | Cide | foxlit: 53 |
| 19:39.05 | Shadowed | no it's an exaggeration |
| 19:39.30 | Shadowed | the difference in speed isn't pretty small overall |
| 19:39.40 | Shirik|Ecole | getglobal() involves (1) creation of a stack frame, (2) access of a global variable, and (3) pushing and pulling from stacks to return a Lua value from C code |
| 19:39.52 | Shirik|Ecole | _G involves only (2) |
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| 19:41.15 | Shirik|Ecole | (15:35:08) (Luminax) hey what do I need to add in the OnEvent to properly parse CHAT_MSG_LOOT's item link ? |
| 19:41.17 | Shirik|Ecole | what do you mean? |
| 19:41.31 | Shirik|Ecole | if event == "CHAT_MSG_LOOG" then --[[ stuff ]] end ? |
| 19:41.37 | Shirik|Ecole | s/LOOG/LOOT/ |
| 19:41.47 | foxlit | >>> local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,10000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print(GetTime()-t); |
| 19:41.47 | Cide | foxlit: [string "local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,10000 do a =..."]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
| 19:41.54 | foxlit | >>> os.time |
| 19:41.54 | Cide | foxlit: function: 009691A0 |
| 19:42.00 | foxlit | >>> os.time() |
| 19:42.00 | Cide | foxlit: 1180381295 |
| 19:42.03 | foxlit | >>> os.time() |
| 19:42.03 | Cide | foxlit: 1180381298 |
| 19:42.10 | foxlit | grumblegrumble |
| 19:42.12 | Nerinia | >>> time() |
| 19:42.13 | Cide | Nerinia: 1180381307 |
| 19:42.17 | Shirik|Ecole | you want better precision? |
| 19:42.19 | Luminax | I meant... |
| 19:42.20 | foxlit | Yes |
| 19:42.23 | Shirik|Ecole | GetTime() |
| 19:42.28 | foxlit | >>> GetTime() |
| 19:42.29 | Cide | foxlit: [string "GetTime()"]:1: attempt to call global 'GetTime' (a nil value) |
| 19:42.31 | Shirik|Ecole | is the value in... milliseconds I think? Since windows up time |
| 19:42.37 | foxlit | And it should preferably be defined. |
| 19:42.39 | Luminax | CHAT_MSG_LOOT have arg1 being the string including the item link of the item bought |
| 19:42.41 | Shirik|Ecole | (do it in WoW, I don't think it's in the interpreter) |
| 19:42.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I believe that's a WoW API |
| 19:43.15 | foxlit | >>> GetTime = os.time; local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,10000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print(GetTime()-t); |
| 19:43.15 | Cide | foxlit: 0 |
| 19:43.16 | Aita | Aye, GetTime() is a WoW API call, and it has ms precision for system uptime |
| 19:43.18 | Nerinia | >>> os.clock() |
| 19:43.18 | Cide | Nerinia: 0.002 |
| 19:43.20 | foxlit | >>> GetTime = os.time; local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,1000000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print(GetTime()-t); |
| 19:43.22 | Nerinia | ;) |
| 19:43.22 | Cide | foxlit: 1 |
| 19:43.24 | Shirik|Ecole | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php/API_GetTime |
| 19:43.27 | foxlit | >>> GetTime = os.time; local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,10000000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print(GetTime()-t); |
| 19:43.33 | Cide | foxlit: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 19:43.41 | foxlit | >>> GetTime = os.time; local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,3000000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print(GetTime()-t); |
| 19:43.43 | Cide | foxlit: 2 |
| 19:43.52 | foxlit | >>> GetTime = os.time; local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,3000000 do a = getglobal("getglobal"); end print(GetTime()-t); |
| 19:43.55 | Cide | foxlit: 3 |
| 19:43.57 | Shirik|Ecole | "Returns the system uptime of your computer in seconds, with millisecond precision." |
| 19:44.02 | foxlit | 2>3, qq! :) |
| 19:44.16 | foxlit | Other way around and stuffs |
| 19:44.19 | Shirik|Ecole | 2 > 3 ? |
| 19:44.26 | Nerinia | >>> GetTime = os.clock; local t,a = GetTime(); for i=1,3000000 do a = getglobal("getglobal"); end print(GetTime()-t); |
| 19:44.29 | Cide | Nerinia: 2.269 |
| 19:44.33 | Esamynn | using the debug timers in wow would be faster if you do the test in wow |
| 19:44.36 | Esamynn | more accurate I mean |
| 19:45.23 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah it just depends on what you're trying to do |
| 19:45.36 | Shirik|Ecole | for something like timing events, that's really unnecessary. But a test like getglobal vs _G, that would be best |
| 19:46.08 | foxlit | But can someone explain this 53? |
| 19:46.09 | foxlit | >>> for i=1,128 do if 2^i+1-2^i ~= 1 then print(i); return; end end print("Meh") |
| 19:46.10 | Cide | foxlit: 53 |
| 19:46.40 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> 2^53+1-2^53 |
| 19:46.40 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: 0 |
| 19:47.04 | Shirik|Ecole | floating point precision |
| 19:47.15 | foxlit | But of all numbers, why 53? |
| 19:47.15 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> 2^54+1-2^54 |
| 19:47.16 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: 0 |
| 19:47.36 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> 2^53 |
| 19:47.36 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: 9.007199254741e+015 |
| 19:48.58 | foxlit | Not even a multiple of 2 :/ |
| 19:49.20 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah... trying to do some math... |
| 19:49.27 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> 2^52 |
| 19:49.27 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: 4.5035996273705e+015 |
| 19:49.29 | __Aella | That's how many digits in the significand for an IEEE double, isn't it? |
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| 19:49.47 | Shirik|Ecole | sadly I'm a member of IEEE and I don't know T_T |
| 19:49.52 | Esamynn | __Aella: yes, Lua uses doubles for it's number by default |
| 19:50.06 | __Aella | Yeah, that's why I'm guessing that. |
| 19:50.12 | Shirik|Ecole | is it 52? |
| 19:50.30 | foxlit | Come to think of it, yes |
| 19:50.34 | foxlit | Since 53 is the first that breaks |
| 19:51.17 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 19:51.20 | Shirik|Ecole | there's 52 /bits/ |
| 19:51.30 | Shirik|Ecole | in a IEEE 754 double |
| 19:51.35 | __Aella | There's the implied bit too. |
| 19:51.41 | Shirik|Ecole | (fractional portion) |
| 19:51.52 | Nerinia | GetTime = os.clock;local t,a=GetTime();for i=1,3000000 do a = getglobal("getglobal"); end print("getglobal(): "..GetTime()-t);t=GetTime()for i=1,3000000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print("_G global: "..GetTime()-t);t,_g=GetTime(),getfenv(0)for i=1,3000000 do a = _g["getglobal"];end print("_G local: "..GetTime()-t); |
| 19:51.54 | Esamynn | plus 11 for the power I think |
| 19:51.58 | Nerinia | >>> GetTime = os.clock;local t,a=GetTime();for i=1,3000000 do a = getglobal("getglobal"); end print("getglobal(): "..GetTime()-t);t=GetTime()for i=1,3000000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print("_G global: "..GetTime()-t);t,_g=GetTime(),getfenv(0)for i=1,3000000 do a = _g["getglobal"];end print("_G local: "..GetTime()-t); |
| 19:51.59 | Shirik|Ecole | 1 sign, 11 exponent, 52 fraction |
| 19:51.59 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah |
| 19:52.04 | Cide | Nerinia: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 19:52.07 | Nerinia | woops :D |
| 19:52.17 | Shirik|Ecole | oh duh |
| 19:52.21 | Shirik|Ecole | which means 2^52 |
| 19:52.27 | Shirik|Ecole | ..... slow today |
| 19:52.30 | Shirik|Ecole | I should go back to sleep |
| 19:52.34 | foxlit | Means 2^53-1 :) |
| 19:52.54 | Nerinia | >>> GetTime = os.clock;local t,a=GetTime();for i=1,300000 do a = getglobal("getglobal"); end print("getglobal(): "..GetTime()-t);t=GetTime()for i=1,300000 do a = _G["getglobal"]; end print("_G global: "..GetTime()-t);t,_g=GetTime(),getfenv(0)for i=1,300000 do a = _g["getglobal"];end print("_G local: "..GetTime()-t); |
| 19:52.55 | foxlit | I'm assuming the whole thing is 64 bits |
| 19:52.56 | Cide | Nerinia: "getglobal(): 0.238", "_G global: 0.176", "_G local: 0.178" |
| 19:52.59 | __Aella | It is. |
| 19:52.59 | Shirik|Ecole | yes it is |
| 19:53.18 | foxlit | 1 for sign, 52 for fractional, 11 for base 10? |
| 19:53.26 | foxlit | er, exponent 10 |
| 19:53.32 | __Aella | And the implied bit. |
| 19:54.21 | Shirik|Ecole | curious how Lua handles |
| 19:54.24 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> -0 == 0 |
| 19:54.24 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: true |
| 19:54.34 | Shirik|Ecole | that's good |
| 19:54.39 | foxlit | >>> -nil |
| 19:54.40 | Cide | foxlit: [string "return -nil"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 19:55.03 | Shirik|Ecole | stop trying to break lua again >.> |
| 19:55.23 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm still impressed you found that :P |
| 19:55.33 | Cide | >>> setfenv(nil, { }) |
| 19:55.33 | Cide | Cide: function: 007C9E40 |
| 19:55.48 | Kaydeethree | wait, how'd lua get broken? |
| 19:56.01 | Cide | you have to scroll up... a bit |
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| 19:56.14 | __Aella | I missed it to. |
| 19:56.17 | __Aella | *too |
| 19:56.31 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah about a week |
| 19:56.38 | Shirik|Ecole | it's in the lua bugs list |
| 19:56.40 | Shirik|Ecole | #4 |
| 19:56.50 | Shirik|Ecole | recursive coroutines overflow the C stack |
| 19:56.58 | Shirik|Ecole | resulting in a segmentation fault |
| 19:57.09 | Esamynn | ooh fun ;) |
| 19:57.54 | Shirik|Ecole | the problem is because the stack counter (Which is used to stop things like function a() a() end) isn't handled properly for coroutines |
| 19:58.11 | Shirik|Ecole | each coroutine gets its own counter, but the coroutines are actually started on the C stack so |
| 19:58.17 | Kaydeethree | oh ouch |
| 19:58.19 | Shirik|Ecole | the counter stays at 1 while the C stack overflows |
| 19:59.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I believe they already know the fix, which is to keep that counter on the global state object instead of the thread state |
| 20:00.35 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> 5/0 |
| 20:00.35 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: 1.#INF |
| 20:00.45 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> 1 ^(5/0) |
| 20:00.45 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: 1 |
| 20:01.27 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> return 0/0, 1^(0/0) |
| 20:01.28 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: -1.#IND, -1.#IND |
| 20:01.55 | Cide | >>> 0/0 == 0/0 |
| 20:01.55 | Cide | Cide: false |
| 20:02.33 | Shirik|Ecole | I was randomly reading this article that was discussing the inconsistencies of NaNs |
| 20:04.16 | foxlit | >>> 0^0 |
| 20:04.17 | Cide | foxlit: 1 |
| 20:04.31 | foxlit | Ahem? |
| 20:04.42 | __Aella | >>> 0^0 == 1 |
| 20:04.43 | Cide | __Aella: true |
| 20:04.55 | __Aella | But yet it doesn't equal itself. |
| 20:05.08 | foxlit | Sure it does |
| 20:05.14 | foxlit | >>> 0^0 == 0^0 |
| 20:05.15 | Cide | foxlit: true |
| 20:05.16 | Shirik|Ecole | that's 0^0 not 0/0 |
| 20:05.22 | __Aella | Er, duh, confused 0^0 with 0/0. |
| 20:05.31 | Shirik|Ecole | 0/0 == 1 would be a problem |
| 20:05.43 | Kaydeethree | and would break math as we know it |
| 20:05.46 | foxlit | So is 0^0 |
| 20:05.51 | Shirik|Ecole | the math gods would descend and smite Lua |
| 20:06.01 | Kaydeethree | my 89's totally okay with 0^0 == 1 |
| 20:06.18 | Shirik|Ecole | or perhaps mind blast if they're shadow |
| 20:06.18 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:06.23 | foxlit | How would you define 0^0 without dividing by 0? |
| 20:06.39 | Shirik|Ecole | lim(x->0) x^0 |
| 20:06.50 | Esamynn | hehehe |
| 20:07.01 | Shirik|Ecole | which is 1 from any view |
| 20:07.05 | Esamynn | limits are fun! 8) |
| 20:07.11 | foxlit | Values close to 0 ~= 0 :) |
| 20:07.33 | Shirik|Ecole | ok what about |
| 20:07.33 | a-stray-cat | 0.999~ == 1?! |
| 20:07.41 | Shirik|Ecole | it is for very large values of 0.999 |
| 20:07.43 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway |
| 20:07.49 | Shirik|Ecole | 0^0 = 0ln0 |
| 20:07.50 | Shirik|Ecole | woah |
| 20:07.58 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> math.ln(0) |
| 20:07.59 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: [string "math.ln(0)"]:1: attempt to call field 'ln' (a nil value) |
| 20:08.06 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> math.log(0) |
| 20:08.06 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: -1.#INF |
| 20:08.09 | Shirik|Ecole | ah yeah |
| 20:08.12 | Shirik|Ecole | that would get ugly |
| 20:08.29 | Cide | it's true! |
| 20:08.31 | foxlit | Point is, 0^0 == 0^n / 0^n == (0/0)^n |
| 20:08.34 | Cide | >>> 0^0/0 == math.log(0) |
| 20:08.34 | Cide | Cide: false |
| 20:08.40 | Cide | oh, bleh |
| 20:08.52 | Shirik|Ecole | inf != inf ? |
| 20:09.01 | Cide | inf != -inf I'm guessing |
| 20:09.10 | Shirik|Ecole | ah yeah it wouldn't be |
| 20:09.50 | Kaydeethree | oh. har. the status line on my 89 checking 0^0 = 0^x/0^x: "Warning: 0^0 replaced by 1" |
| 20:09.52 | a-stray-cat | int ~= inf anyway right? surely there's a different amount of values between 0 and 1 and 1 and 100? |
| 20:10.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Kaydeethree: Yeah 89 warns a lot about that |
| 20:10.03 | Shirik|Ecole | and 0^inf |
| 20:10.07 | Shirik|Ecole | or was it inf^0 |
| 20:10.10 | Shirik|Ecole | something like that |
| 20:10.13 | Shirik|Ecole | it also replaces undef^0 by 1 |
| 20:10.16 | Shirik|Ecole | and warns you for that too |
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| 20:10.49 | Shirik|Ecole | (16:09:28) (a-stray-cat) int ~= inf anyway right? surely there's a different amount of values between 0 and 1 and 1 and 100? |
| 20:10.53 | Shirik|Ecole | youcan't answer that question |
| 20:11.02 | Shirik|Ecole | there is an infinite number of values between 0 and 1 and 1 and 100 |
| 20:11.16 | a-stray-cat | i agree |
| 20:11.33 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> 1.#INF == 1.#INF |
| 20:11.33 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: [string "1.#INF == 1.#INF"]:1: unexpected symbol near '1.' |
| 20:11.34 | a-stray-cat | but my gut still says theres more infinity between 1 and 100 than 0 and 1 ;p |
| 20:11.43 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> math.log(0) == math.log(0) |
| 20:11.44 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: true |
| 20:11.50 | Shirik|Ecole | I would agree with that |
| 20:11.57 | Shirik|Ecole | but -inf is most definitely not equal to +inf |
| 20:12.05 | a-stray-cat | of course ;p |
| 20:12.14 | __Aella | >>> -math.log(0) |
| 20:12.14 | Cide | __Aella: 1.#INF |
| 20:12.23 | Shirik|Ecole | how do you define "more infinity" |
| 20:12.29 | a-stray-cat | i dont know. |
| 20:12.40 | a-stray-cat | it seems like there should be more numbers between 0 and 1 than 1 and 100 |
| 20:12.40 | Cide | >>> math.huge |
| 20:12.40 | Cide | Cide: 1.#INF |
| 20:12.44 | Cide | >>> math.huge > -math.huge |
| 20:12.44 | Cide | Cide: true |
| 20:12.45 | a-stray-cat | they're both infinity |
| 20:12.48 | Cide | like that! |
| 20:12.53 | a-stray-cat | but one still seems better than the other |
| 20:12.56 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide >< |
| 20:13.06 | Kaydeethree | I uh... |
| 20:13.10 | a-stray-cat | er, bigger |
| 20:13.22 | Shirik|Ecole | you can't think of infinity as a quantifiable value |
| 20:13.27 | Shirik|Ecole | it is, by definition, not quantifiable |
| 20:13.42 | a-stray-cat | just that its bigger than everything else? ;) |
| 20:13.44 | Shirik|Ecole | it's a concept, not a number |
| 20:13.56 | Shirik|Ecole | you can have the concept that something is bigger than anything without actually having it be a number |
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| 20:14.33 | Shirik|Ecole | you can be sure that |1/0| will most definitely be larger than 1 |
| 20:15.32 | a-stray-cat | still, there's more between 0 and 1 than 1 and a 100, why wouldn't the infinite amount of numbers that fits between 0 and 1 be more than the infinite numbers that fits between 1 and 100? |
| 20:15.41 | Shirik|Ecole | there's more what? |
| 20:15.49 | a-stray-cat | room, space, distance |
| 20:15.53 | Shirik|Ecole | this is true |
| 20:16.02 | Shirik|Ecole | but that is a quantifiable number |
| 20:16.12 | Shirik|Ecole | 1-0 and 100-1, respectively |
| 20:16.39 | Shirik|Ecole | This gets into the time old paradox: |
| 20:16.45 | Corrodias | i remember this from my linear algebra course. one infinite set can be larger than another infinite set. |
| 20:16.45 | a-stray-cat | im asking if 1/0 == 100/0, basically |
| 20:17.23 | Shirik|Ecole | "A runner is finishing a race. To get to the end, he must first reach the half way point. After that, he must then reach the halfway point between there and the finish. This continues to infinity, so he will never finish the race" |
| 20:17.26 | a-stray-cat | and just saying that infinity doesn't necessarily equal infinity |
| 20:17.27 | Shirik|Ecole | Of course, we know this not to be true |
| 20:17.30 | Corrodias | take the set A = {0 through infinity}. now take the set B = {-infinity through infinity}. set B contains set A and also contains numbers that are not in set A, so it is larger. |
| 20:17.43 | Kaydeethree | >>> 1/0 == 100/0 |
| 20:17.44 | Cide | Kaydeethree: true |
| 20:17.59 | a-stray-cat | that's more about 0.999~ == 1 than infinity = infinity imo |
| 20:18.09 | Corrodias | your mom = infinity |
| 20:18.21 | a-stray-cat | my mom > your mom. |
| 20:18.27 | Shirik|Ecole | Corrodias: that is true, in set theory. You can add something to infinity and still have an infinite number of values |
| 20:18.28 | Corrodias | >>> mom > mom |
| 20:18.29 | Cide | Corrodias: [string "return mom > mom"]:1: attempt to compare two nil values |
| 20:18.37 | Shirik|Ecole | your mom's an error! |
| 20:18.38 | a-stray-cat | mom's dead?! |
| 20:18.40 | Kaydeethree | so crap. mom doesn't exist? |
| 20:18.42 | Corrodias | lol |
| 20:19.01 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> SavedVariables.mom |
| 20:19.02 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: nil |
| 20:19.15 | Shirik|Ecole | we should give Cide a mom |
| 20:19.41 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> SavedVariables.mom = "Cairenn"; |
| 20:19.41 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: nil |
| 20:19.57 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> return SavedVariables.mom; |
| 20:19.57 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: "Cairenn" |
| 20:19.59 | Kaydeethree | I wonder what she'd have to say about that |
| 20:20.00 | Shirik|Ecole | :) |
| 20:20.26 | Corrodias | i wonder if the new reporting feature gets a GM to check out the person in UNDER an hour |
| 20:21.28 | Kaydeethree | I'm operating under the assumption that the account name gets added to a table and it's all automatic |
| 20:21.41 | Kaydeethree | I'm just happy that they're at least making a gesture by suing p4h |
| 20:21.59 | Esamynn | F'ing spammers |
| 20:22.13 | Corrodias | but are they doing anything illegal? |
| 20:22.18 | Corrodias | by US law, i mean |
| 20:22.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Indeed |
| 20:22.24 | Esamynn | the suit is for spam Corrodias |
| 20:22.34 | Shirik|Ecole | which is referenced in the TOS |
| 20:22.45 | Shirik|Ecole | which you agree to before logging in |
| 20:23.05 | Esamynn | and is definately supported by law, were as the property rights are a little less well defined |
| 20:23.47 | Kaydeethree | which is why their lawyers are hopefully not stupid enough to bring up the phrase "gold selling" or "virtual property". just suing for spamming should be successful |
| 20:24.44 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, headed back home, bbiab |
| 20:25.16 | Corrodias | cool |
| 20:28.26 | foxlit | no, it doesn't! |
| 20:35.52 | Shirik|Fooding | :( |
| 20:35.55 | Shirik|Fooding | they truncated it |
| 20:36.07 | Shirik | It took me a while to think that out too!!! T_T |
| 20:44.54 | Shirik | ok |
| 20:45.02 | Shirik | who has an addon that uses a SendAddonMessage() prefix of "2" |
| 20:46.12 | Nerinia | Cartographer? :) |
| 20:46.24 | Shirik | why "2" >< |
| 20:46.26 | Shirik | ckknight! |
| 20:52.42 | ckknight | Shirik! |
| 20:52.52 | ckknight | Shirik: actually, it's not "2" |
| 20:53.08 | ckknight | it's "\0642\152" or so |
| 20:53.15 | Shirik | oo |
| 20:53.37 | Shirik | I just spent the last 10 minutes cause DT is reporting all these CHAT_MSG_ADDON events coming from "2" |
| 20:53.53 | Shirik | trying to figure out where they're coming from >< |
| 20:54.32 | ckknight | Cartographer_GuildPositions |
| 20:54.41 | ckknight | I'm in the works to make it more efficient, btw |
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| 20:54.54 | ckknight | been working on Parser-3.0 and Threat-1.0 recently, though |
| 20:55.04 | Shirik | I like it :) Just I'm trying to debug my RDX comms and I'm like sifting through all these like "wtf is this" |
| 20:55.16 | ckknight | hehe, yea |
| 20:55.33 | ckknight | basically, AceComm memoizes prefixes down to a 3-byte sequence, makes things more efficient |
| 20:55.38 | ckknight | though harder to debug... |
| 20:56.39 | Shirik | yeah I don't really care about it too much, I just wanted to know what the heck it was >< |
| 20:57.00 | Shirik | I wish there were some way in DT though to have /dtevents only report specific CHAT_MSG_ADDON events |
| 20:57.14 | Shirik | though I might as well just put some debug code into the comms handler |
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| 21:01.43 | Corrodias | okay, i like the new garbage collection methods |
| 21:01.50 | Corrodias | it's very gentle now, it seems |
| 21:05.18 | Corrodias | hey, i can't use SetCVar("ffxGlow", 1) to toggle my full screen glow on any more |
| 21:13.32 | Shirik | maybe it requires a gxRestart ? |
| 21:14.49 | Corrodias | maybe it does now... didn't used to |
| 21:15.11 | Shirik | try doing a console gxRestart after you set it |
| 21:15.12 | Corrodias | yep |
| 21:15.22 | Corrodias | how lame :( |
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| 21:15.48 | Corrodias | that gives me 3 things to put into the suggestion forum |
| 21:15.58 | Shirik | it may have been required for compatibility |
| 21:16.28 | Corrodias | the others being 1) making the dragonmaw illusion either consistent or removable and 2) making it easier for a tauren on a talbuk to get through the undercity archways which are -almost- too small |
| 21:17.07 | Corrodias | both consistent -and- removable, i mean |
| 21:17.27 | Corrodias | oh, and i'd like to be able to do the "races" after completing them. those were the most fun i've had in a while. |
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| 21:20.30 | Kaydeethree | my computer's too crappy to finish the skyshatter race. some invisible meteor always knocks me off. got through the first 5 in a try or two |
| 21:22.40 | Corrodias | play a druid |
| 21:22.49 | Corrodias | we can shift back into swift flight form after getting hit and keep going :3 |
| 21:22.55 | Kaydeethree | har. deshift and reshift |
| 21:23.09 | Corrodias | it shifts you out when you get hit |
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| 21:47.42 | Luminax | soooo |
| 21:49.28 | Luminax | back to scripting... how do I set my OnLoad so I can parse arguments from CHAT_MSG_LOOT ? |
| 21:57.26 | Kaso | Luminax you need to register you frame for that event in your onload, then in your on event you need to parse it |
| 21:57.31 | Kaso | which you can find about here: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Parse_Event_Messages |
| 21:59.08 | Luminax | thanks |
| 21:59.26 | Kaso | unless your using CreateFrame, in which case there is no onload |
| 22:01.34 | Luminax | don't know what that is :3 |
| 22:01.41 | Luminax | <- total newbie |
| 22:01.54 | Luminax | just started like... 2 days ago :3 |
| 22:02.40 | zenzelezz | do all the "actionbar" mods only operate with bars? I'd like one that let me do individual buttons :-| |
| 22:05.37 | Thunder_Chil1 | discords DAB did that |
| 22:05.42 | Thunder_Chil1 | had misc floating buttons |
| 22:05.59 | Kaso | rip discord |
| 22:06.19 | Thunder_Child | you can get a port of it |
| 22:06.27 | Thunder_Child | not as effective though |
| 22:09.32 | zenzelezz | I tried looking at the action button code, but it just puts me off trying to make them myself :-p |
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| 22:37.59 | foxlit | There's no way to overwrite variables local to some scope from outside that scope, right? |
| 22:38.10 | Shirik | correct |
| 22:38.14 | Shirik | that is quite the definition of scope |
| 22:38.27 | Shirik | unless, of course, you have a reference to it somehow |
| 22:38.55 | Cide | yeah |
| 22:39.08 | Shirik | >>> local t = {}; _G["foo"] = t; _G.foo.a = 1; return t; |
| 22:39.09 | Cide | Shirik: { ["a"] = 1 } (#1) |
| 22:39.26 | Cide | >>> local f; do local foo = 1; f = function() foo = 2; return foo; end end return f() |
| 22:39.26 | Cide | Cide: 2 |
| 22:39.32 | Cide | err, that doesn't prove anything |
| 22:39.39 | ckknight | lol. |
| 22:39.51 | Shirik | that proves you can access upvalues :P |
| 22:39.55 | Shirik | and return them |
| 22:39.57 | ckknight | >> local f; do local foo = 1; f = function() foo = foo + 1; end end f(); return foo; |
| 22:39.57 | Cide | yeah, I'm retarded |
| 22:40.10 | Shirik | :) |
| 22:40.12 | ckknight | shouldn't that work? |
| 22:40.15 | Shirik | it's ok, we all have those moments |
| 22:40.18 | Shirik | yes, if you put a >>> at the beginning |
| 22:40.25 | ckknight | >>> local f; do local foo = 1; f = function() foo = foo + 1; end end f(); return foo; |
| 22:40.26 | Cide | ckknight: nil |
| 22:40.32 | Cide | Shirik: actually, it doesn't even prove that foo is an upvalue :P |
| 22:40.33 | ckknight | oh, the do |
| 22:40.42 | Shirik | ha, actually yeah it doesn't |
| 22:40.51 | ckknight | >>> local f; local foo = 1; f = function() foo = foo + 1; end f(); return foo; |
| 22:40.52 | Shirik | it proves you can make a variable in a function and return it ^^ |
| 22:40.52 | Cide | ckknight: 2 |
| 22:40.57 | Cide | yep! |
| 22:40.59 | Shirik | s/make/set/ |
| 22:41.00 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.38 | nevcairiel | so ckk proved you can change upvalues |
| 22:41.42 | nevcairiel | what was the point before ? :D |
| 22:41.47 | Shirik | heheh |
| 22:42.00 | Shirik | I think I proved my point with 18:39:52 ‹Shirik› >>> local t = {}; _G["foo"] = t; _G.foo.a = 1; return t; |
| 22:42.19 | Shirik | why I did _G["foo"] then _G.foo I don't know |
| 22:42.30 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:42.37 | Shirik | we're all off today >< |
| 22:43.22 | ckknight | >>> local Shirik = {}; function Shirik:Hug() return "*Huggles*" end; return Shirik:Hug() |
| 22:43.23 | Cide | ckknight: "*Huggles*" |
| 22:43.28 | Shirik | :) |
| 22:44.36 | ckknight | >>> local Shirik = {}; Shirik.Shirik = Shirik; return Shirik |
| 22:44.36 | Cide | ckknight: { ["Shirik"] = <table: #1> } (#1) |
| 22:44.39 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:44.46 | foxlit | ckk: lazy recursion |
| 22:45.01 | foxlit | You can do Shirik.Shirik.Shirik.Shirik...., but it won't mean much :) |
| 22:45.20 | Shirik | meh |
| 22:45.27 | Shirik | I get popups, I know I don't have to switch back |
| 22:45.29 | foxlit | Since you're only storing a ref :P |
| 22:45.40 | ckknight | >>> local inf = 1/0; print(inf) |
| 22:45.40 | Cide | ckknight: 1.#INF |
| 22:46.01 | foxlit | >>> 1/0 == 10^308 |
| 22:46.01 | Cide | foxlit: false |
| 22:46.06 | foxlit | >>> 10^308 |
| 22:46.06 | Cide | foxlit: 1e+308 |
| 22:46.11 | foxlit | >>> 10^309 |
| 22:46.12 | Cide | foxlit: 1.#INF |
| 22:46.15 | foxlit | >>> 1/0 == 10^309 |
| 22:46.15 | Cide | foxlit: true |
| 22:46.27 | foxlit | zomg, division by zero solved. |
| 22:46.34 | Shirik | impressive |
| 22:46.36 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:47.09 | Shirik | But this isn't true |
| 22:47.17 | Shirik | Math can only be guaranteed to be true on turing-complete computers |
| 22:47.29 | Shirik | and there is yet to be a true turing-complete computer |
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| 22:47.48 | ckknight | Shirik: lack of infinite tape? |
| 22:47.51 | Shirik | ayup |
| 22:47.54 | foxlit | btw, still want a FAST implementation of BigNum modulo multiplication |
| 22:49.53 | ckknight | >>> local trib = setmetatable({[0]=0,[1]=1,[2]=2}, {__index=function(self, key) local value = self[key-3] + self[key-2] + self[key-1]; self[key] = value; return value; end}); for i = 1, 100 do print(trib[i]) end |
| 22:49.54 | Cide | ckknight: 1, 2, 3, 6, 11, 20, 37, 68, 125, 230, 423, 778, 1431, 2632, 4841, 8904, 16377, 30122, 55403, 101902, 187427, 344732, 634061, 1166220, 2145013, 3945294, 7256527, 13346834, 2... (exceeded 200 characters) |
| 22:50.10 | ckknight | hrm, something went wrong... |
| 22:50.13 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:50.20 | ckknight | >>> local trib = setmetatable({[0]=0,[1]=1,[2]=1}, {__index=function(self, key) local value = self[key-3] + self[key-2] + self[key-1]; self[key] = value; return value; end}); for i = 1, 100 do print(trib[i]) end |
| 22:50.21 | Cide | ckknight: 1, 1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 24, 44, 81, 149, 274, 504, 927, 1705, 3136, 5768, 10609, 19513, 35890, 66012, 121415, 223317, 410744, 755476, 1389537, 2555757, 4700770, 8646064, 1590259... (exceeded 200 characters) |
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| 22:50.24 | ckknight | that's it |
| 22:50.29 | ckknight | tribonacci sequence |
| 22:50.34 | Shirik | tribonacci? |
| 22:50.51 | foxlit | ~wikipedia Tribonacci sequence |
| 22:51.01 | Kaydeethree | fib but for last 3 results? |
| 22:51.01 | Cide | f(x) = f(x-1) + f(x-2) + f(x-3)? |
| 22:52.05 | a-stray-cat | anyone here not enUS? |
| 22:52.06 | Shirik | The tribonacci numbers are like the Fibonacci numbers, but instead of starting with two predetermined terms, the sequence starts with three predetermined terms and each term afterwards is the sum of the preceding three terms. The first few tribonacci numbers are A000073: |
| 22:52.06 | Shirik | 0, 0, 1, 1, 2, 4, 7, 13, 24, 44, 81, 149, 274, 504, 927, 1705, 3136, 5768, 10609, 19513, 35890, 66012, … |
| 22:53.21 | Shirik | \frac{1+\sqrt[3]{19+3\sqrt{33}}+\sqrt[3]{19-3\sqrt{33}}}{3} is the ratio toward which adjacent tribonacci numbers tend. It is a root of the polynomial x3 - x2 - x - 1, approximately 1.83929, and also satisfies the equation x + x-3 = 2. It is important in the study of the snub cube. |
| 22:53.24 | Shirik | :) |
| 22:53.44 | Shirik | I think this is someone who was bored and needed something to do |
| 22:53.47 | haste | a-stray-cat: depends on what you mean with not enUS |
| 22:53.54 | Shirik | I have not heard of any purpose behind "tribonacci" numbers |
| 22:53.59 | Shirik | whereas the fibonacci sequence has a meaning |
| 22:54.08 | Luminax | quadronacci soon |
| 22:54.17 | Luminax | stay tuned to the nacci show |
| 22:54.22 | Shirik | Pentanacci, hexanacci and heptanacci numbers have been computed, with perhaps less interest so far in research.[citation needed]. In the limit, the ratio of successive terms of an n-nacci sequence tends to a root of the equation x+x^{-n}=2\,. |
| 22:54.37 | Kaydeethree | yay thought exercises? |
| 22:54.50 | Luminax | you guys do that |
| 22:54.53 | Luminax | I'll go parse my events |
| 22:54.58 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:55.05 | Luminax | assuming I still have adrenaline left to do it... ugh |
| 22:55.08 | foxlit | meh, insanity = required |
| 22:55.55 | Luminax | okay... this from "ShowMeTheMoney" Blizzard example : EventHandlerFunction(self, event, ...); |
| 22:55.58 | Luminax | anyone care to elaborate |
| 22:56.25 | foxlit | On what? |
| 22:56.55 | Luminax | on why it passes 'self' as argument, on what does the '...' mean and how and why etc etc etc |
| 22:56.57 | Shirik | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", EventHandlerFunction) |
| 22:57.05 | Shirik | self is passed as an argument due to the way Lua works |
| 22:57.13 | Shirik | ... means "and whatever else" |
| 22:57.15 | Shirik | for example... |
| 22:57.27 | foxlit | ... is the language construct that means "I don't know what I'm being passed, but give me all of it" |
| 22:57.35 | Luminax | well... yeah |
| 22:57.54 | Shirik | >>> function fn(a, b, ...) print("a is "..a..", and b is"..b..", and I also got:", ...); end fn(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) |
| 22:57.55 | Cide | Shirik: "a is 1, and b is2, and I also got:", 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 22:58.35 | Shirik | you can even do something like |
| 22:58.51 | ckknight | Luminax: tetranacci |
| 22:58.52 | Shirik | >>> function makeTable(...) return {...}; end return makeTable(1,2,3,4,5) |
| 22:58.53 | Cide | Shirik: { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 } (#1) |
| 22:59.23 | Luminax | mmm |
| 22:59.31 | Luminax | kinda fickle |
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| 22:59.40 | Shirik | fickle? |
| 22:59.43 | foxlit | Combine with select |
| 22:59.51 | foxlit | Explain select! |
| 23:00.10 | Luminax | yes! explain select! |
| 23:00.11 | Shirik | >>> function getThird(...) return (select(3,...)); end print(getThird(1,2,3,4,5,6)) |
| 23:00.12 | Cide | Shirik: 3 |
| 23:00.14 | Luminax | anyway... back to scripting |
| 23:00.33 | Kaydeethree | better than java's strict "you may pass exactly n arguments to a function unless it's overloaded" crap |
| 23:00.50 | Shirik | just about every other language I know of does that >< |
| 23:00.54 | Shirik | and tbh I like that better, but hey |
| 23:00.58 | Cide | Shirik: why make it efficient? |
| 23:00.58 | Shirik | well, actually |
| 23:00.59 | foxlit | strict = better :P |
| 23:01.02 | Shirik | Java and C both have ... |
| 23:01.09 | Shirik | java's ... is crap though |
| 23:01.18 | Shirik | it is impossible to work with, especially when you're dealing with JNI |
| 23:01.18 | Kaydeethree | which is why I don't bother trying to use it |
| 23:01.21 | Cide | >>> function getThird(...) return (unpack({...}, 3)); end print getThird(1,2,3,4,5,6) |
| 23:01.21 | Cide | Cide: [string "function getThird(...) return (unpack({...}, 3)); end print get..."]:1: '=' expected near 'getThird' |
| 23:01.33 | Cide | >>> function getThird(...) return (unpack({...}, 3)); end print(getThird(1,2,3,4,5,6)) |
| 23:01.33 | Cide | Cide: 3 |
| 23:01.52 | Cide | for the win! |
| 23:01.57 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:02.00 | Shirik | no words |
| 23:02.33 | a-stray-cat | you can do that? |
| 23:03.05 | a-stray-cat | >>> function getThird(...) return (unpack({...}, 3)); end print(getThird({"you", "can", "do", "that?"})) |
| 23:03.05 | Cide | a-stray-cat: nil |
| 23:03.23 | Luminax | the only good thing about java is its cross-compatibility |
| 23:03.25 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: doesn't work like that |
| 23:03.25 | foxlit | table of tables! |
| 23:03.31 | Luminax | and it achieves that through massive code bloating |
| 23:03.31 | a-stray-cat | i see |
| 23:03.32 | a-stray-cat | oh |
| 23:03.35 | ckknight | Luminax: just like anal. |
| 23:03.36 | a-stray-cat | its ... |
| 23:03.48 | Kaydeethree | only if you're dealing with non-gui stuff |
| 23:03.57 | ckknight | >>> function getThird(...) return (unpack({...}, 3)); end print(getThird("you", "can", "do", "that?")) |
| 23:03.57 | Cide | ckknight: "do" |
| 23:03.58 | Luminax | so advantages that got offset pretty bad by its mean of achieving it |
| 23:04.08 | a-stray-cat | QQirl |
| 23:04.23 | a-stray-cat | i need more sleep, caffiene or both |
| 23:04.33 | Luminax | I suggest anaesthesia |
| 23:04.41 | Kaydeethree | some times I hate my school. they're teaching us Java because that's what GaTech is^Wwas teaching their undergrads until last year |
| 23:04.41 | a-stray-cat | hmmmmmm |
| 23:06.19 | Luminax | my Univ. taught us Electronic Engineers the C language |
| 23:07.20 | Luminax | ...not really easy to get yourself used to printf when you've been using stream >> al the time |
| 23:07.32 | Luminax | wait stream << |
| 23:08.16 | a-stray-cat | you can do stream >>, it just has to be an istream! |
| 23:08.35 | zenzelezz | printf isn't much for input though |
| 23:08.38 | a-stray-cat | ;P |
| 23:08.57 | a-stray-cat | im just saying, streams go both ways |
| 23:09.21 | a-stray-cat | because my teacher thought it would be fun if we overloaded >> and << as many times as possible. |
| 23:09.44 | Kaydeethree | sadistic bastard, I take it? |
| 23:10.01 | a-stray-cat | he made us overload [] in c! |
| 23:10.08 | a-stray-cat | i forgot what we overloaded it to do |
| 23:10.41 | a-stray-cat | he made a mistake on the midterm on his quick sort question |
| 23:10.47 | a-stray-cat | and it ended up taking like a page |
| 23:10.55 | a-stray-cat | rather than 5 lines as he intended :X |
| 23:11.15 | Shirik | 19:10:05 ‹a-stray-cat› because my teacher thought it would be fun if we overloaded >> and << as many times as possible. |
| 23:11.15 | Shirik | rofl |
| 23:11.32 | Shirik | 19:10:45 ‹a-stray-cat› he made us overload [] in c! |
| 23:11.33 | Shirik | C++? |
| 23:13.17 | Luminax | the overloaded overloading operators that overloaded the overloaded operators overloading the overload methods... |
| 23:13.19 | a-stray-cat | c |
| 23:13.25 | Luminax | k, I'm done |
| 23:13.38 | a-stray-cat | oh, you're right. |
| 23:13.47 | a-stray-cat | it was c++ |
| 23:13.54 | a-stray-cat | i remember what we did now |
| 23:13.57 | Luminax | well |
| 23:14.05 | Luminax | streams isn't really 'available' in C |
| 23:14.11 | a-stray-cat | rather than matrix[x][y] he wanted it to be matrix[x,y] |
| 23:14.15 | a-stray-cat | [] was in c :p |
| 23:14.29 | Luminax | and C++ too |
| 23:14.33 | Luminax | which is an iteration of C |
| 23:14.40 | a-stray-cat | yes, but the project i did this in was in c++ |
| 23:14.46 | a-stray-cat | because i had a matrix class ;X |
| 23:14.54 | a-stray-cat | im just sayin |
| 23:15.17 | a-stray-cat | that i clearly need more caffiene. |
| 23:15.23 | Luminax | I clearly need sleep |
| 23:15.39 | Luminax | I just did a local cVar' |
| 23:15.50 | Luminax | and then reloaded UI and found big red letters |
| 23:15.54 | Luminax | wondering what I did wrong >< |
| 23:16.12 | a-stray-cat | i just get 'Fatality!' |
| 23:16.26 | a-stray-cat | i love that worms sound effect. |
| 23:16.44 | Luminax | well... no |
| 23:16.50 | Kaydeethree | that's a game I haven't played in a while... |
| 23:16.56 | Luminax | I don't load other addons except the one I'm working on and DevTools |
| 23:17.00 | Luminax | me <3 DevTools |
| 23:17.08 | a-stray-cat | oh man |
| 23:17.11 | a-stray-cat | someone should write worms |
| 23:17.12 | Luminax | oooh don't get me started on that game >< |
| 23:17.12 | a-stray-cat | for wow |
| 23:17.17 | Luminax | ROPE JUMP |
| 23:17.18 | a-stray-cat | to play in raids |
| 23:17.35 | Luminax | I used to be rope mastah in Fort type game |
| 23:17.46 | Luminax | swing swing swing zook swing out ten-point landing |
| 23:17.48 | Kaydeethree | we've already got poker, that's distracting enough of our healers |
| 23:18.04 | Luminax | last I heard our healers are playing Uno >< |
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| 23:19.43 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: I was thinking about Monopoly |
| 23:21.25 | Luminax | woot! |
| 23:21.52 | Luminax | event check: MERCHANT_SHOW, event check: ITEM_PUSH, event check: CHAT_MSG_LOOT |
| 23:21.54 | Luminax | I'm set |
| 23:21.59 | a-stray-cat | monopoly is fun too |
| 23:22.07 | a-stray-cat | if only my GM would work on it some more :< |
| 23:28.22 | Luminax | hmm |
| 23:28.26 | Luminax | that wouldn't fire :/ |
| 23:28.58 | Shirik | anyone know where the party frames are located in the blizz ui? I thought it was UnitFrame.lua but no.. |
| 23:29.28 | Luminax | well |
| 23:29.34 | Shirik | PartyMemberFrame.lua |
| 23:29.34 | Luminax | there's a PartyMemberFrame.lua... |
| 23:29.36 | Shirik | I = noob |
| 23:29.41 | Luminax | :3 |
| 23:29.57 | Luminax | you == need sleep maybe |
| 23:30.02 | Luminax | or need coffee |
| 23:30.23 | Luminax | *sigh* stupid thing won't trigger on MERCHANT_SHOW |
| 23:30.28 | Luminax | *shakes fist* |
| 23:31.27 | Luminax | YAY |
| 23:31.34 | Luminax | I == boggled |
| 23:32.01 | Luminax | so I was doing EventHandlerFunction(self) in LUA and was wondering why it won't fire |
| 23:32.19 | Luminax | then I dig my xml and found out I somehow changed it to EventHandlerFunction(event) >< |
| 23:32.33 | Shirik | hehe |
| 23:32.41 | Luminax | alright now that THAT is registered |
| 23:33.02 | Shirik | EventHandlerfunction(self, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, ...) |
| 23:33.03 | Luminax | time to see if I can toggle 'in merchant window' check along with Item Push and CHAT_MSG_LOOT |
| 23:33.14 | Luminax | I just do self, event, ... |
| 23:33.24 | Shirik | yeh, depends on whaty ou need |
| 23:33.45 | Luminax | I just need for it to trigger and display a harmless DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME messages |
| 23:33.49 | Luminax | at least that will tell me it WORKS |
| 23:33.56 | Luminax | which it does |
| 23:34.00 | Luminax | *dances happily* |
| 23:34.33 | Shirik | grats :) |
| 23:42.01 | Luminax | thanks :3 |
| 23:43.13 | Luminax | h-mmm |
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| 23:44.01 | Luminax | sequence to merchant selling is... ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED (no idea what this is), BAG_UPDATE, PLAYER_MONEY |
| 23:44.15 | Luminax | what IS that first event, btw ? |
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| 23:47.07 | ckknight | Luminax: wowwiki knows all |
| 23:47.24 | Luminax | I've queried wowwiki |
| 23:47.33 | Luminax | seems kinda vague... or I'm not understanding enough... |
| 23:56.23 | Gnarfoz | poll: I, rogue, have: Aldor exalted sword + (can farm for Latro's shifting sword) -- no good arena team, so slow but steady arena point gain. Which one to get first? Arena MH or OH sword? (for combat PvE) |
