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| 00:07.10 | sysrage | nevermind. complete wipe and reinstall fixed it |
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| 00:20.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.52 | subbawt | does the first ace addon that gets loaded get credit for all the memory of the ace library? |
| 00:24.00 | subbawt | that's the only way i can figure out why !StopTheSpam is using 3MB :P |
| 00:24.17 | nymbia | subbawt: yup |
| 00:24.44 | JoshBorke | subbawt: yes |
| 00:27.27 | Bleeter | as in 'I'm your lvl 13 strapon gnome lock!' |
| 00:27.44 | zenzelezz | suuure that's what you tried to say |
| 00:28.13 | Bleeter | heh, s'true... guildie just made primal mooncloth shoulders, was talking about +465 int |
| 00:28.42 | Bleeter | I'm on my 13 lock bank alt, 542 int... I offered to be 'I'm your...' |
| 00:29.10 | Bleeter | RP realms can be quite fun sometimes ;) |
| 00:29.35 | zenzelezz | 542 at 13? |
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| 00:30.13 | zenzelezz | I'm no twinker but that sounds like a lot |
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| 00:33.12 | zenzelezz | I remember when I was new, running around on my orc warrior between Orgrimmar and The Barrens... received the Dragonslayer buff and noticed my health was doubled... "woot!" |
| 00:33.43 | zenzelezz | or was it the Rend buff... one of them anyhow |
| 00:34.06 | atriace | Woah..... this is annoying. Can a Mod not use SendChatMessage to activate a slash command? |
| 00:40.12 | JoshBorke | don't believe so, no |
| 00:40.31 | AnduinLothar | Mr_Rabies2: pong |
| 00:41.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | AL: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106571558&sid=1 |
| 00:41.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really really hate the wow "community" |
| 00:46.48 | AnduinLothar | almost not worth responding to |
| 00:47.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | so tempted to login on an alt and just reply "stop posting" |
| 00:47.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 00:48.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really feel for you guys :( you have to deal with the stupid "community" on a mostly dairly basis :/ |
| 00:53.45 | Bleeter | Cairenn|afk: Pidgin 2.0.1 is released |
| 00:54.55 | subbawt | i logged on without any mods yesterday, and the loading time was amazing :( |
| 00:55.07 | subbawt | i wish i could live without them |
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| 00:58.53 | zenzelezz | I'm too cheesy... my new gun made me make a macro to cast Shoot, so I could add a chance to /say Say hello to my little friend! |
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| 01:02.05 | kergoth | i'd do /say This is my BOOMSTICK! |
| 01:02.10 | kergoth | evil dead / army of darkness references ftw |
| 01:03.09 | JoshBorke | kergoth: ftl you mean :-P |
| 01:03.25 | zenzelezz | I'm still tempted put a chance to say that Dune thing on my Berserker Rage button... "I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death [...]" |
| 01:03.33 | zenzelezz | but I expect the team may not like that |
| 01:12.09 | Industrial | seems like thats when the fps is cut in half |
| 01:12.17 | Industrial | and models start makgin big spikes |
| 01:12.20 | Industrial | and the interface flashes |
| 01:12.22 | Industrial | etc |
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| 01:42.43 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: i prefer "Good, Bad, i'm the guy with the gun" |
| 01:43.44 | zenzelezz | the reason I chose the "little friend" is because the gun looks fairly big and bad-ass ;-p In my opinion anyhow |
| 01:44.19 | Industrial | uhm |
| 01:44.25 | Industrial | my screenshots dont work? |
| 01:44.35 | Industrial | I dont get any tga files in wow/Screenshots/ |
| 01:44.50 | zenzelezz | but you get the "Screen captured" message? |
| 01:44.54 | Industrial | yes |
| 01:45.03 | Industrial | :S |
| 01:45.34 | zenzelezz | not getting any .jpgs or anything else either? |
| 01:45.46 | Industrial | what the |
| 01:45.53 | Industrial | thay changed it to jpg. |
| 01:45.57 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 01:46.04 | zenzelezz | you can change it back if you want |
| 01:46.04 | Aita | As of this latest patch, aye |
| 01:46.09 | Industrial | I didnt notice cause I usually convert it to jpg anyway |
| 01:46.32 | Industrial | with ConvertShots.exe |
| 01:46.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:46.32 | zenzelezz | you can set the JPG quality on the config I think |
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| 01:48.07 | Industrial | cool |
| 01:48.08 | Industrial | anyway |
| 01:48.09 | Industrial | http://koen.it/~tom/wow/screenshots/interface/WoWScrnShot_052507_034213.jpg |
| 01:48.12 | Industrial | badass! |
| 01:48.36 | zenzelezz | nice interface |
| 01:49.03 | Industrial | Meanwhile in /1: "LOL how old r u" "prol orlder then u |
| 01:49.11 | Industrial | " "my gf plays to lol" |
| 01:49.14 | Industrial | >_> |
| 01:49.19 | Osagasu | Barrens chat. |
| 01:49.26 | Industrial | stv actually |
| 01:49.48 | Thunder_Child | Industrial: a tad minimalistic? |
| 01:49.55 | zenzelezz | some people like it that way |
| 01:50.15 | Industrial | its a fetish |
| 01:50.34 | zenzelezz | I'm not really a minimalist, but I like my interfaces symmetrical and clean |
| 01:50.35 | Thunder_Child | for someone having a minimal UI your double stacking buffs |
| 01:50.41 | Thunder_Child | / odd |
| 01:50.56 | Industrial | double stacking? |
| 01:51.12 | Thunder_Child | oh..my bad, it's target |
| 01:51.15 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 01:51.17 | Industrial | ;) |
| 01:51.22 | Industrial | id like them on my playerframe |
| 01:51.48 | Thunder_Child | so put them there |
| 01:52.40 | Industrial | hmm |
| 01:52.42 | Industrial | I guess I could. |
| 01:52.47 | zenzelezz | if I want to place action buttons randomly around my screen (not just in straight bars), anyone know of a decent mod that'll do that and not much more? |
| 01:53.24 | Thunder_Child | well...bartender can do that...but it can also do much more... |
| 01:54.06 | zenzelezz | but the "much more" is still actionbar/button stuff? What I meant by "more" was "non-actionbar stuff" |
| 01:54.33 | Thunder_Child | well you *can* have it do more...but you dont have to |
| 01:54.54 | Thunder_Child | <-- very fuzzy atm |
| 01:55.27 | zenzelezz | guess I'll just have to try it and see |
| 01:59.51 | zenzelezz | "Peons4hire sued by Blizzard" o_O |
| 02:01.06 | a-stray-cat | hot |
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| 02:19.40 | Xuerian | Aww, why couldn't they sue a less-artful gold selling service. |
| 02:19.49 | Shirik|AFK | ? |
| 02:19.58 | Thrae | They're suing IGE? |
| 02:20.00 | zenzelezz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106771592&sid=1 |
| 02:20.07 | Xuerian | I duno, blame zenzelezz |
| 02:20.56 | Cairenn|afk | good! |
| 02:22.17 | Osagasu | There is no real legal basis for them suing IGE for selling gold |
| 02:22.36 | Osagasu | suing Peons4Hire does though, because Peons4hire harasses Blizzard's customers |
| 02:25.39 | zenzelezz | hrm, I'm too stupid to figure out any of these bar mods (or they just don't do what I want)... I'll have to look into creating them myself :-p |
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| 02:36.26 | atriace | How do you get a mod to type a slash command of another mod? |
| 02:36.42 | JoshBorke | atriace: search through SlashCmdList, find the function and call that |
| 02:37.33 | atriace | I was afraid of that. I've been digging through Bartender trying to find it's SlashCmdList, and so far it's mysteriously missing from all of its lua files. |
| 02:39.04 | atriace | I was hoping if I could simply print the command via SendChatMessage I could skip the hunt for the function, but WoW doesn't recognize it as a command if it prints it to the chat window with SendChatMessage |
| 02:39.16 | JoshBorke | it'll be in AceConsole, randomly generated |
| 02:39.21 | atriace | Oh. |
| 02:39.46 | JoshBorke | well |
| 02:40.01 | JoshBorke | SlashCmdList['bt3']('argument') |
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| 03:06.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Blizz is suing Peons4hire! http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/devtracker/1/en/details/8959/ |
| 03:07.53 | Legorol | morning |
| 03:08.16 | Legorol | guys, i have a problem with Blizz default raid UI, i don't know if you can help me |
| 03:08.29 | Legorol | as a raid leader, i don't seem to be able to promote anyone to main tank, only select people |
| 03:08.57 | Legorol | in a test raid (me = warrior, a druid and a priest), i can promote the druid, i can't promote the priest, and i can't even right-click myself to get a popup menu |
| 03:09.02 | Legorol | this is on a clean system with no addons |
| 03:09.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey Legorol |
| 03:09.22 | Legorol | hi Kirkburn|afk |
| 03:09.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Not that I can help you, but I haven't spoken to you for a while :( |
| 03:09.56 | Legorol | yup, still |
| 03:10.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah yes, I see now: "Trinity College Basement-Prison" |
| 03:13.04 | Legorol | Ok, I am a noob |
| 03:13.13 | Legorol | Turns out it IS addons that do it somehow.. |
| 03:13.23 | Legorol | i forgot i still had a couple dev tools enabled, like IEF |
| 03:13.31 | Legorol | and for some strange reason IEF was causing this |
| 03:13.52 | a-stray-cat | IEF? |
| 03:15.10 | Legorol | Improved Error Frame |
| 03:18.28 | a-stray-cat | ah |
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| 03:42.53 | JoshBorke | no lua bot :-( |
| 03:47.43 | Shirik|AFK | 16k crit on curator |
| 03:47.44 | Shirik|AFK | lol |
| 03:47.47 | Shirik|AFK | that was hawtness |
| 03:48.06 | Shirik|AFK | rapid killing + trinket + evocation + aimed shot ^^; |
| 03:48.30 | Osagasu | Evocation? |
| 03:48.43 | zenzelezz | when Curator does Evocation |
| 03:48.49 | Osagasu | Oh |
| 03:48.50 | Osagasu | yeah |
| 03:48.51 | Osagasu | that |
| 03:49.12 | Osagasu | I was like "huntard using make skills? schwaaaa~? |
| 03:49.25 | zenzelezz | make? o_O |
| 03:49.51 | Osagasu | mage |
| 03:49.57 | Shirik|AFK | excuse me |
| 03:50.00 | Shirik|AFK | "huntard" |
| 03:50.06 | Osagasu | Warcraft 3. |
| 03:50.06 | Shirik|AFK | is for the morons that don't know how to play the class |
| 03:50.22 | Shirik|AFK | I realize that 90% of the class doesn't know wtf they're doing |
| 03:50.27 | Shirik|AFK | but understand that there is 10% of us that do |
| 03:50.35 | zenzelezz | we use it just for jokes, no harm intended |
| 03:50.42 | zenzelezz | same with loladin |
| 03:51.16 | Osagasu | And I'll be perfectly honest, I don't really care if you take offense at it. |
| 03:51.32 | zenzelezz | careful, Cairenn is awake |
| 03:53.48 | Osagasu | My point is that noone can make him take offense at a joke except himself. |
| 04:00.34 | Mike-N-Go | Shirik|AFK: I am a hunter that knows what he is doing =] |
| 04:05.31 | Industrial | I ran out of ammo at liek level 2 |
| 04:06.02 | Mike-N-Go | So, you became a melee hunter? |
| 04:06.30 | Industrial | gah, it was a joke |
| 04:06.42 | Industrial | that'd be the worst hunter ever tho |
| 04:12.13 | Shirik|AFK | sadly |
| 04:12.19 | Shirik|AFK | there are hunters that think they are good at melee |
| 04:12.28 | Shirik|AFK | i.e., melee hunters |
| 04:12.37 | Thunder_Chil1 | only problem i have with hunters is the pet |
| 04:12.43 | zenzelezz | everyone knows hunter melee weapons are just stat sticks |
| 04:12.49 | Shirik|AFK | it's true |
| 04:12.50 | Thunder_Chil1 | i just..*just* want to be a sniper |
| 04:12.58 | Shirik|AFK | I don't even use my pet |
| 04:13.01 | Shirik|AFK | screw him |
| 04:13.13 | Thunder_Child | cant do it at low lvls though |
| 04:13.26 | Thunder_Child | well...and lvl as fast |
| 04:13.27 | zenzelezz | I made my hunter (semi-alt, semi-bank) specifically for the pet \o/ |
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| 04:18.20 | Terrifion | is there a macro that can do a sort of cast sequence for sit and then stand since they removed the SitOrStand() function in 2.1? |
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| 04:34.56 | Shirik|AFK | someone know the name of the pet bar frame? |
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| 04:35.41 | atriace | I believe it's simply PetFrame |
| 04:36.00 | atriace | Although, if you're using DiscordUnitFrames it would be DUF_PetFrame |
| 04:36.29 | Shirik|AFK | nah, it's PetFrame |
| 04:36.33 | Shirik|AFK | but PetFrame:Show() doesn't work -_- |
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| 04:38.20 | Mike-N-Go | I get 1K crit on a Raptor Strike |
| 04:42.00 | Shirik|AFK | yeah |
| 04:42.03 | Shirik|AFK | and you can do it every 6 seconds |
| 04:42.11 | Shirik|AFK | now how does that compare to even your minimal ranged damage |
| 04:42.18 | subbawt | I think it's PetActionBarFrame |
| 04:42.21 | subbawt | something like that |
| 04:42.25 | Shirik|AFK | doesn't matter |
| 04:42.27 | Shirik|AFK | chess is over >< |
| 04:42.30 | Shirik|AFK | And I did jack >< |
| 04:43.46 | Mike-N-Go | Shirik|AFK: I can do awesome ranged, ~400 on an AutoShot, and 1K when it crits =D |
| 04:44.43 | Mike-N-Go | I just find it useful to melee the last few %T on a mob, if it will drop dead in 1 or 2 melee hits. |
| 04:45.01 | Mike-N-Go | s/%T/%/ |
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| 05:10.16 | Mike-N-Go | What is it called, when you move the camera view from between the where the toon's head is and behind his head? |
| 05:10.19 | Mike-N-Go | I used to be able to adjust mine with my scroll wheel, but now, am unable, any ideas? |
| 05:11.06 | Atriace | Check your keybindings. You can specify mousewheel up/down for camera zoom. |
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| 05:18.50 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | 2.1 Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please | Patch Notes: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10074 |
| 05:19.05 | a-stray-cat | the ace users are clearly hiding. |
| 05:19.10 | a-stray-cat | probably in #wowace |
| 05:19.23 | Atriace | yep, that's it. :) |
| 05:19.30 | Atriace | Thanks, I'll ask there. |
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| 06:06.06 | Shirik|AFK | Cairenn around? |
| 06:06.11 | Cairenn | nope |
| 06:06.17 | Shirik|AFK | :( |
| 06:07.20 | Cairenn | useless git, she's never around when you need her |
| 06:12.26 | Recluse | What's difference between target and focus for UF's? The 'focus' one never shows up, so curious as to what it is. |
| 06:15.37 | a-stray-cat | target someone and do /focus |
| 06:15.44 | a-stray-cat | and detarget them! |
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| 06:17.54 | Shirik|AFK | focus is like an extra target |
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| 06:32.20 | Recluse | - /focus! never heard of that lol |
| 06:34.35 | Recluse | Oh, yes. I can see how that would definitely come in handy. |
| 06:36.15 | Recluse | Has that always been in the game or did it get added somewhere along the way or what? |
| 06:37.49 | Atriace | Is the following a function? If it is, I don't recognize the format. |
| 06:37.50 | Atriace | module.update = function(self, type, value) |
| 06:38.25 | Atriace | Aren't functions normally: function My_SpecialFunction() |
| 06:39.13 | Nerinia | Recluse: Focus? Added with patch version 2.0 |
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| 06:56.07 | Mike-N-Go | How long is children's' week? |
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| 07:04.17 | Garoun|Loupana | vista is friggin annoying |
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| 07:12.17 | Atriace | Is there a CTMOD channel available? |
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| 07:19.28 | Mike-N-Go | atriace: This is the closets you will probly get. |
| 07:22.39 | Mike-N-Go | atriace: Look for Cide, he is what the 'C' stands for, he visits this room often. |
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| 07:32.26 | a-stray-cat | what's the T stand for then? |
| 07:33.44 | Shadowed | T is a fictional person that Cide made up so it doesn't look like he does all the work |
| 07:34.08 | a-stray-cat | i always thought he was a little crazy. |
| 07:34.15 | Shadowed | a little? |
| 07:34.33 | a-stray-cat | okay, a lot :< |
| 07:35.37 | MentalPower|AFK | Cide & Ts, CT |
| 07:35.48 | ckknight | Ts is Cide's alter ego |
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| 07:38.50 | MentalPower|AFK | riiiiiiiight... |
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| 07:48.22 | Recluse | You know the tooltip when you mouse over a player/npc that shows up in the bottom right corner? There a way to remove that, or an addon to make it go away? |
| 07:49.11 | Atriace | Yeah. CT_Mod does it. So does, MoveAnything. |
| 07:49.52 | Recluse | Will moveanything just let me move it or will it let me make it disappear completely? |
| 07:51.11 | Atriace | Well, I know it moves it. I thought there was an option to hide it... I'll doublecheck. |
| 07:51.29 | Atriace | Oops, no can do. I don't have it installed anymore. :) |
| 07:51.38 | Recluse | lol |
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| 07:52.09 | Recluse | with my current ui setup, that tool tip is in the way, and it eats up real estate anyhow |
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| 07:53.57 | Recluse | installed, restarting to check out if it'll do the trick |
| 07:54.58 | Atriace | Anyone know how to recolor DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() text? |
| 07:59.46 | MentalPower|ZZzz | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(text, r, g, b) |
| 08:00.06 | Atriace | Thanks, MentalPower |
| 08:00.27 | MentalPower|ZZzz | or you can use |cFFRRGGBBSomeText|r to color individual words |
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| 08:00.55 | MentalPower|ZZzz | all of this is on the wiki BTW |
| 08:01.02 | Atriace | Woah |
| 08:01.15 | Atriace | Actually I was hoping you could point me to a wiki page. |
| 08:01.42 | MentalPower|ZZzz | www.wowwiki.com |
| 08:01.45 | MentalPower|ZZzz | ~wowwiki |
| 08:02.06 | purl | i heard wowwiki is [www.wowwiki.com] the largest World of Warcraft wiki in existence with over 30,000 articles. |
| 08:02.11 | Atriace | lol, yes. I know the site. I meant where on it I could find that entry on text coloring. |
| 08:02.56 | Luminax | how about where on it could I find a beginner's guide :( |
| 08:03.14 | MentalPower|ZZzz | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ScrollingMessageFrame_AddMessage http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences |
| 08:03.30 | Atriace | Thanks again. :) |
| 08:03.36 | MentalPower|ZZzz | Luminax: tried the one in the blizzard interface extractor? |
| 08:03.45 | MentalPower|ZZzz | they're pretty good |
| 08:03.47 | Luminax | hmmm |
| 08:03.53 | Luminax | I should try that |
| 08:03.57 | Luminax | lost my extractor somewhere |
| 08:04.06 | Luminax | it's an .exe MPQ extractor isn't it ? |
| 08:04.35 | Nerinia | ~framexml |
| 08:04.59 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 08:05.09 | MentalPower|ZZzz | yeah, that one |
| 08:05.14 | MentalPower|ZZzz | ok for real now |
| 08:05.21 | Luminax | lol |
| 08:05.34 | Luminax | void---energy---- |
| 08:09.24 | Recluse | Well, it has a button to hide the tooltip, but it didn't succeed on doing the hide. I moved it out of the way - it's better than default at least |
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| 08:12.34 | Vilkku | is there an event that fires when a spell is ready or do I have to use the event that fires when the spell is cast and then countdown? |
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| 08:15.58 | Luminax | hmmm |
| 08:16.03 | Luminax | this: vs self: |
| 08:16.32 | Luminax | self.object eh |
| 08:21.32 | Sole | go for self |
| 08:23.25 | Atriace | I'm sooo close to finishing my mod. Only problem is I can't figure out how to load mod profiles for CT. I'm staring at the code for it. I know, all I need to do is plug in the profile to load and fire off the import function and it should work... but... argh... <-- CRY FOR HELP |
| 08:24.15 | Luminax | yeah Shirik seems to be saying that 'this' in Lua scripting is evil |
| 08:24.47 | Luminax | though this.object works good in C++ hmmm I wonder |
| 08:25.21 | Luminax | question |
| 08:25.26 | Luminax | must variables all be uppercase ? |
| 08:25.41 | Luminax | or not... hmmm |
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| 08:30.28 | Sole | Luminax: variables in lua can be whaterver case you want them to |
| 08:30.49 | Luminax | yeah just wondering about things such as "VARIABLES_LOADED" |
| 08:30.53 | Sole | Atriace: mind giving me a pastey? |
| 08:31.00 | Sole | those are blizzard event names |
| 08:31.05 | Sole | they're always uppercase |
| 08:31.05 | Luminax | ah |
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| 08:31.20 | Sole | addon variables dont really matter |
| 08:31.21 | Luminax | it's kinda like macros and such in C eh |
| 08:31.44 | Luminax | okay another quick question |
| 08:31.57 | Sole | although, obviously its good to stick to 1 case so your code doesnt look weird |
| 08:32.21 | Luminax | if on the loading function there's a self:RegisterEvent, that "self:" is referring to top hierarchy frame ? |
| 08:32.54 | Sole | on mean in a frames OnLoad handler? |
| 08:33.11 | Luminax | yes, in the function referred to by the OnLoad |
| 08:33.12 | Sole | you* |
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| 08:33.43 | Luminax | ah... or does it refers to whichever frames calls the 'OnLoad" ? |
| 08:33.55 | Atriace | Sole: sure, here's the snippet I'm looking at http://wowi.pastey.net/40965 |
| 08:34.34 | Sole | Luminax: it refers to the frame which calls the OnLoad afaik |
| 08:34.35 | Luminax | I'm looking at Blizzard UI tutorial advanced "ShowMeTheMoney" here |
| 08:34.49 | Luminax | so the top frame is ShowMeTheMoneyFrame, which only sets anchor points |
| 08:35.03 | Sole | but to be honest, I havent written xml for a WoW addon for about a year+ now |
| 08:35.07 | Sole | I just create it through lua |
| 08:35.13 | Luminax | mmm |
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| 08:35.38 | Sole | and to handle events, Im an Ace2 coder so I dont register events to frames |
| 08:35.47 | Sole | I register it to the addon and have functions to handle em |
| 08:36.01 | Luminax | I have no idea how or what that is so ;P |
| 08:36.50 | Sole | ace2 is an addon framework |
| 08:37.15 | Sole | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2 |
| 08:37.47 | Luminax | kinda know a thing or two about it |
| 08:37.56 | Luminax | lots of addons I used are Ace2 derived |
| 08:38.10 | Luminax | oooh a tutorial ! *reads* |
| 08:39.16 | Sole | Atriace: so whats the problem again? it just isnt working or what? |
| 08:41.06 | Atriace | I'm trying to load CT mod profiles externally from another mod. The snippet I linked you is from CT_Library.lua, and is the portion of their code that handles importing other profile settings. |
| 08:41.53 | Atriace | I don't know how to get my mod to say "Hey! Load X profile." |
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| 08:43.03 | Atriace | If Cide shows up, I suppose this would be a question best directed at the author, but I'm an eager beaver. |
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| 08:52.10 | Luminax | so Sole |
| 08:52.21 | Luminax | Ace2 handles all your frameworkin' ? |
| 08:53.07 | ckknight | Ace2 is for noobs, only poor coders use it |
| 08:53.11 | ckknight | :-P |
| 08:54.51 | Sole | lol ck |
| 08:54.59 | Sole | sorry I was afk |
| 08:55.16 | Sole | Luminax: ace2 is sex on the computer |
| 08:55.27 | Luminax | so I see.. |
| 08:55.42 | ckknight | Luminax: it's possible that I'm the author. |
| 08:55.47 | Sole | Luminax: he lies |
| 08:55.55 | ckknight | Sole's mom lies |
| 08:55.57 | ckknight | in bed |
| 08:55.59 | ckknight | with me on top |
| 08:56.08 | leethal | ckknight: gz |
| 08:56.18 | Atriace | ckknight is a girl? |
| 08:56.27 | Sole | ck's mom doesnt lie when she tells me how good it feels from behind |
| 08:56.29 | Sole | peace |
| 08:57.04 | ckknight | Atriace: no, I'm quite male |
| 08:57.22 | Sole | he lies |
| 08:57.33 | Atriace | -_o |
| 08:59.43 | ckknight | ====D .oº |
| 08:59.49 | ckknight | alright, I'm done. |
| 09:00.34 | Atriace | Sole: I'm going to take a wild guess and say you don't know what I could do to import the settings. |
| 09:00.42 | Sole | Atriace: your guess is right |
| 09:00.46 | Atriace | pity |
| 09:00.47 | Luminax | lol |
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| 09:25.38 | Mike-N-Go | Auto Mail Director 1.4.5 is out, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6139-AutoMailDirector.html |
| 09:30.10 | Luminax | wow... |
| 09:30.20 | Luminax | this is odd |
| 09:30.28 | Luminax | IRC doesn't lag, Vent doesn't lag |
| 09:30.47 | [dRaCo] | but? |
| 09:30.48 | Luminax | but my WoW is lagging like Ahn Qiraj gate opening on a 14.4k modem |
| 09:31.18 | nevcairiel | server issue ? |
| 09:31.35 | Luminax | maybe |
| 09:31.48 | Luminax | and of course the cute little 'latency' bar never shows correct information |
| 09:31.51 | Luminax | *grumbles* |
| 09:32.01 | Luminax | screw that bombing run >< time to go back to scripting |
| 09:35.45 | Luminax | trying to make my autosort bag addon :3 |
| 09:37.16 | Luminax | mmm doesn't += work in Lua ? |
| 09:37.23 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:37.28 | Luminax | meh |
| 09:37.34 | Luminax | <- lazy |
| 09:45.56 | Recluse | Hmm, MoveAnything prevents me from getting mail and using outfitter. Back to the drawing board I suppose XD |
| 09:47.09 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 09:47.44 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 09:53.14 | Luminax | gah... I might be still sleepy |
| 09:53.22 | Luminax | how did I misread "returns" as "refuses" |
| 09:53.39 | Luminax | the mind is boggled |
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| 10:06.14 | Recluse | eesh, MoveAnything might have been updated after 2.1, but talk about buggy! |
| 10:06.38 | JunkHead-Work | Someone released a 2.1 version of MobileFrames also. |
| 10:07.18 | Luminax | mobileframes... isn't that the one that's in cosmos |
| 10:07.27 | Luminax | or was that gymnast.. |
| 10:07.38 | JunkHead-Work | Not sure. |
| 10:07.38 | Recluse | I just need something that will eliminate the tooltip when mousing over chests/nodes/npcs/players |
| 10:11.55 | Luminax | hmmm |
| 10:12.14 | Luminax | so this 'function' that doesn't seem to be defined anywhere is a 'frame update' is it ? hmmm |
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| 10:32.28 | Riptidez | Anybody familar with, how your party player names (when you have have player names enabled) are a differant color than everybody outside of your party (violet for party, sea green for raid while the rest of the raid is green) Mine doesn't always show a different color for my group :( i've looked everywhere for an awnser. |
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| 10:38.54 | leethal | are you sure? |
| 10:38.57 | leethal | sounds weirdness |
| 10:39.54 | Luminax | sounds colourful |
| 10:41.28 | Luminax | hmmm |
| 10:41.49 | Luminax | which is better saved variables per character, or one big saved variables separated by characters ? |
| 10:41.58 | Luminax | using 'profiles' |
| 10:44.41 | foxlit | Do you want access to everyone else's settings while playing a specific character? |
| 10:44.49 | Luminax | hmmm |
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| 10:44.53 | Luminax | yes I do |
| 10:44.59 | Luminax | so I guess it's profile-based eh |
| 10:45.02 | leethal | I hade saved variables by character |
| 10:45.14 | leethal | it's very very very very very rare that I need an addon to be set up differently for each character |
| 10:45.19 | leethal | even global or by class imo |
| 10:45.56 | Luminax | oh btw... if there's a frame name with the name '$parentFrameName' and there's an undeclared function 'FrameName_Update()' could there be any connection ? |
| 10:46.11 | Luminax | like... frame specific functions or something |
| 10:46.39 | amro | no the frame's methods are accessed like frameName:Method() |
| 10:46.50 | amro | unless you specifically hook a script |
| 10:47.18 | Luminax | yeah I am aware of the frame:method() like self:RegisterEvent() or stuff but... |
| 10:47.25 | Luminax | what about that undeclared function then ? |
| 10:47.40 | amro | hm what do you mean by undeclared? |
| 10:48.09 | Luminax | because there's no specific 'function FuncName' of it in the lua ? |
| 10:48.24 | Luminax | thus, it's undeclared, yes ? |
| 10:48.26 | amro | then it doesn't exist, and you get an error ifyou try to call it |
| 10:48.44 | Luminax | well I don't get any error |
| 10:48.49 | Luminax | and this is Blizzard's example btw... |
| 10:49.06 | Luminax | I don't think they're going to put a wrong code in |
| 10:49.39 | amro | where do you see FrameName_Update()? |
| 10:50.04 | Luminax | in the LUA |
| 10:50.12 | Luminax | and the _SetType("STATIC") in the XML |
| 10:50.23 | amro | then it was declared elsewhere |
| 10:50.38 | Luminax | hrmmm |
| 10:50.45 | Luminax | FrameXML ? |
| 10:51.06 | Luminax | already a built in function then... |
| 10:51.42 | Luminax | ...ah |
| 10:52.22 | Luminax | on checking of the extracted Blizzard UI LUA collection |
| 10:52.25 | Luminax | there's a MoneyFrame.lua |
| 10:52.33 | Luminax | sheesh.... so much for example |
| 11:04.12 | Luminax | hmm I don't need to put a <script file="scriptname.lua"> if I already loaded it in the .toc, do I ? |
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| 11:26.19 | drdoom5081 | Anyone here able to answer some questions about scripting? |
| 11:27.44 | foxlit | Ask questions, not meta-questions :P |
| 11:28.26 | drdoom5081 | I'm creating a mod that uses a core, and supports plugin mods. I need to be able to create buttons dynamically using CreateFrame in the core mod's LUA file. |
| 11:28.40 | drdoom5081 | but when i try to inherit a frame defined in the XML file, it says it can't find it |
| 11:29.09 | foxlit | Checklist: 1. You typoed the name in either XML or Lua. 2. XML frame is not declared as virtual. 3. XML file is not loaded. |
| 11:29.40 | drdoom5081 | Name is correct, frame template is defined as virtual, and the XML file is loaded. |
| 11:30.00 | foxlit | Show code, then :) |
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| 11:30.34 | drdoom5081 | here is the frame template defined in the XML file |
| 11:30.37 | drdoom5081 | <Button name="XBarButtonTemplate" inherits="SecureActionButtonTemplate" hidden="true" id="0"> |
| 11:30.37 | drdoom5081 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.37 | drdoom5081 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.37 | drdoom5081 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.38 | drdoom5081 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.49 | foxlit | It's not a template |
| 11:31.37 | foxlit | (you failed #2: XML frame is not defined as virtual. You need <Button name=.... virtual="true">) |
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| 11:32.06 | drdoom5081 | got d/c |
| 11:32.21 | foxlit | [13:30] <foxlit> It's not a template |
| 11:32.21 | foxlit | [13:31] <foxlit> (you failed #2: XML frame is not defined as virtual. You need <Button name=.... virtual="true">) |
| 11:33.30 | drdoom5081 | ah, i had taken the virtual out to test it. It didn't work before that, and when i put it back in I get the same error message |
| 11:34.07 | foxlit | btw, if you're pasing code, use http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 11:34.15 | drdoom5081 | k |
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| 11:36.02 | drdoom5081 | here is the link to the template: http://wowi.pastey.net/41102 |
| 11:38.48 | foxlit | And the code you use to spawn frames? :) |
| 11:39.10 | foxlit | Btw, most instances of this should really be self there |
| 11:39.50 | drdoom5081 | you mean defined in the XML file? |
| 11:40.57 | foxlit | Yes |
| 11:41.58 | drdoom5081 | code to make buttons is here http://wowi.pastey.net/41114 |
| 11:42.33 | drdoom5081 | I know i could do it defining them in the XML file. but I'd rather create them dynamically to 1) Save resources, and 2) Leave it open ended for an unknown number of buttons |
| 11:43.02 | drdoom5081 | I'm trying to simplify it for people who write plugin mods to my code. |
| 11:44.17 | foxlit | Can you expand http://wowi.pastey.net/41114-36hq a bit |
| 11:44.18 | foxlit | ? |
| 11:46.25 | drdoom5081 | This is a small part of a bigger function. For this particular problem i'm having, mod="XTrapBar", n=5. There is a global object named "XTrapBar" defined in another XML file (its a plugin to this mod) |
| 11:46.56 | drdoom5081 | The idea is that it creates a row of buttons as child members of this frame. |
| 11:48.36 | Luminax | hey foxlit |
| 11:51.29 | foxlit | hey Lumi |
| 11:52.25 | Luminax | you well versed with variables and saving/loading, I presume ? |
| 11:52.28 | foxlit | drdoom5081: and you're sure that it's the CreateFrame line that fails? |
| 11:53.15 | drdoom5081 | Luminax: yes, foxlit: yes. that's where the UI gives me the error at. It tells me it can't find the template |
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| 11:54.13 | Luminax | soo... suppose I am saving to a single variable file so I can make it available to all characters across all realm instead of 'per characters' I should build a 'profile' for each characters in the saved variable file, yes ? |
| 11:54.20 | drdoom5081 | CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node: "XBarButtonTemplate" |
| 11:54.45 | Luminax | so I will have variables to store realm name, character name, class, and various other stuffs that I want to store |
| 11:55.08 | Luminax | another question then, is where do I initialize this variable, and what are the default values for each possible ones ? |
| 11:55.19 | drdoom5081 | Luminax: That's what I do. just make it a nested array, and build a "character name" that includes the name and realm of the toon. |
| 11:55.33 | drdoom5081 | each char's settings are defined under their name and realm |
| 11:55.56 | Luminax | yes yes, that's what I want ! |
| 11:56.02 | Luminax | a-la CharacterProfiler |
| 11:56.55 | drdoom5081 | Make sure you specify it in the .TOC file ## SavedVariables: <yourvarname> |
| 11:57.07 | Luminax | did it |
| 11:57.31 | Luminax | so should I initialize it at the beginning of the LUA assigning 'nil' to each ? |
| 11:58.15 | drdoom5081 | define it like this: local MyVarName = { }; |
| 11:58.25 | Luminax | ah |
| 11:58.38 | drdoom5081 | *no local actually. just the var name and the empty list |
| 11:59.08 | drdoom5081 | the UI will save it automatically between loads. |
| 11:59.30 | Luminax | including /reloadui, I assume ? |
| 11:59.34 | drdoom5081 | yes |
| 12:00.10 | drdoom5081 | you shhould look over my code in AspectBar. you can see how it all works in practice |
| 12:00.57 | Luminax | link please ;) |
| 12:01.15 | Luminax | ugh... I have 35 tabs on my firefox lol |
| 12:01.18 | Luminax | I need to close some |
| 12:01.41 | drdoom5081 | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3978 |
| 12:02.00 | Luminax | thanks |
| 12:02.06 | drdoom5081 | foxlit, any idea on why it's not finding my template? should I just give up and make it defined in the XML file? |
| 12:03.09 | Luminax | hmmm and variables I will just be using for current functions such as temporary name holding variables and temporary iterator would be defined by 'local' eh ? |
| 12:04.10 | drdoom5081 | local means it only exists where you define it. IE. the current function, or the entire LUA file if you define it outside. They are dynamically created and destroyed when no longer needed |
| 12:04.20 | Luminax | roger that |
| 12:04.42 | Luminax | hmm no documentation on GetRealmName |
| 12:04.50 | foxlit | drdoom5081: I can't replicate. |
| 12:04.58 | drdoom5081 | no documentation needed. it returns the name of the realm |
| 12:05.00 | foxlit | Running that code in combination with that XML works for me. |
| 12:05.38 | drdoom5081 | maybe its the way I'm loading the files in my .TOC? |
| 12:06.23 | foxlit | Just as long as the XML file is valid and is loaded before you run that, there shouldn't be a problem |
| 12:06.29 | drdoom5081 | I load the XML files first, then the LUA file, also the XML files have <script> references to the LUA file |
| 12:06.38 | drdoom5081 | Yeah i know, I just can't figure out why its doing this. |
| 12:06.42 | Luminax | so say I'll do local char_Realm = GetRealmName("player"); and local _,char_Name = UnitName("player"); |
| 12:07.08 | Luminax | that will store the realm name in the local vars char_Realm and the player name in char_Name... |
| 12:07.17 | drdoom5081 | yes |
| 12:07.39 | Luminax | local _,char_Name = UnitName("player"); <-- this is correct I suppose ? or reversed |
| 12:08.18 | Luminax | I understand the function UnitName() returns name and realm |
| 12:08.41 | drdoom5081 | you could get them both using the unitname function |
| 12:08.42 | foxlit | Only for XS realms |
| 12:09.13 | drdoom5081 | if I were you, I'd just use the first return value for each function |
| 12:09.15 | Luminax | XS ? :o |
| 12:09.31 | foxlit | Cross server |
| 12:09.42 | Luminax | mmm |
| 12:10.04 | foxlit | So UnitName("player") will not return server name |
| 12:10.18 | Luminax | "If from your own realm, then realm == nil" <- this ? |
| 12:10.23 | foxlit | Yes |
| 12:10.39 | Luminax | so I suppose GetRealmName would be better |
| 12:10.43 | drdoom5081 | Be aware you should get this player name after the event PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires, otherwise you will fail to get the player's name and realm |
| 12:10.59 | Luminax | ah yes |
| 12:11.15 | Luminax | I'll move it to after the RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD") then ? |
| 12:11.21 | drdoom5081 | yes |
| 12:13.58 | Legorol | morning |
| 12:14.11 | drdoom5081 | morning |
| 12:14.54 | Legorol | I have identified two AddOns so far that seemingly taints the right-click popup menu in the raid tab, removing the "Promote to Main Tank" and "Promot to Main Assist" entries |
| 12:14.59 | Luminax | putting all the event handlers in <OnEvent> EventHandler(arg); </OnEvent>, then ? |
| 12:15.16 | Legorol | The AddOns in question are ImprovedErrorFrame and DamageMeters, any idea where/how I should start looking as to why they are tainting it? |
| 12:16.03 | drdoom5081 | luminax: yes |
| 12:16.11 | Luminax | whee this is fun :3 |
| 12:16.52 | drdoom5081 | more than likely they are inheriting from a nonsecure template |
| 12:17.36 | Legorol | they are somehow tainting UnitPopupButtons or UnitPopupMenus |
| 12:18.17 | drdoom5081 | Best place to look is the line number that it specifies |
| 12:18.40 | Legorol | drdoom5081: is that in response to my question? |
| 12:18.45 | drdoom5081 | yes |
| 12:18.50 | Legorol | there is no line number |
| 12:19.17 | Legorol | when an AddOn taints the unit popup, then certain entries are removed from it by the Blizzard code, thanks to an issecure() check in UnitPopup_HideButtons |
| 12:19.36 | Legorol | it doesn't result in an error message, or an addon blocked message |
| 12:19.52 | Legorol | those entries are just silently removed |
| 12:19.57 | drdoom5081 | ah |
| 12:22.50 | Legorol | morning cladhaire |
| 12:22.53 | Legorol | maybe you can help me |
| 12:23.13 | cladhaire | good morning. |
| 12:23.40 | Legorol | if you are willing, could you scroll back about ten minutes, and read my problem? |
| 12:23.46 | Legorol | "I have identifed..." |
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| 12:25.34 | Legorol | forget the part about tainting UnitPopupButtons or UnitPopupMenus, that was just a guess, that may not be what they are tainting |
| 12:25.59 | cladhaire | do they both taint? |
| 12:26.04 | cladhaire | or can you not narrow it down? |
| 12:26.13 | cladhaire | i.e. does it happen with each of the addons, when enabled by itself? |
| 12:26.17 | Legorol | they both do, on their own, by themselves |
| 12:26.24 | Legorol | when they are the sole addon loaded, i think |
| 12:26.29 | Legorol | but i'll quickly doublecheck that |
| 12:26.35 | cladhaire | yes please. |
| 12:27.11 | Legorol | to be honest i am also hazy on how errorhandler works nowadays, how the message() and _ERRORMESSAG functions work, how you set errorhandler, how is the default UI not showing errors etc. |
| 12:27.15 | Legorol | i will have to learn that too |
| 12:27.58 | cladhaire | seterrorhandler(function(msg) msg = debugstack() .. msg ChatFrame1:AddMessage(msg) end) |
| 12:28.01 | cladhaire | that's all you need to know |
| 12:28.04 | cladhaire | and geterrorhandler() |
| 12:28.30 | Legorol | clad, clad, you know me better than that ;-) "that's all you need to know" will never do for me :D |
| 12:28.35 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 12:28.43 | Legorol | ok IEF does it on its own, the following way: |
| 12:28.43 | cladhaire | well _ERRORMESSAG function is the default error handler |
| 12:28.56 | Legorol | first person in Group 1 has full UnitPopup in raid tab |
| 12:29.00 | cladhaire | I believe it is just a simple wrapper for message(), which checks the value of the CVar |
| 12:29.05 | Legorol | second, third etc. don't, they appear tainted |
| 12:29.16 | cladhaire | this is only with a single addon loaded? |
| 12:29.17 | Legorol | me (fourth person in Group 1) doesn't even get a UnitPopup |
| 12:29.20 | Legorol | yup, sole addon |
| 12:29.24 | Legorol | going to try dmmeter as well |
| 12:29.31 | cladhaire | and issecurevar() says that the addon you suspect tainted it? |
| 12:29.36 | cladhaire | i.e. its the one that's being blamed |
| 12:29.51 | Legorol | it's not getting blamed |
| 12:29.55 | cladhaire | what is? |
| 12:29.59 | Legorol | noone is |
| 12:30.09 | cladhaire | then that's a bug.. |
| 12:30.10 | Legorol | in Blizzard code, there is an issecure() check in UnitPopup_HideButtons |
| 12:30.18 | cladhaire | yes, but somethign is tainted. |
| 12:30.20 | Legorol | you may remember |
| 12:30.23 | cladhaire | i thought you knew what that was |
| 12:30.28 | cladhaire | i was making assumptions, I apoligize. |
| 12:30.37 | Legorol | yes something somehow taints something |
| 12:30.52 | Legorol | i don't know what is tainted, all i know something is tainted by the time the code gets there |
| 12:30.56 | cladhaire | yes, but the flag propagates |
| 12:30.58 | cladhaire | is my point |
| 12:31.01 | Legorol | it's a silent fail :/ |
| 12:31.08 | cladhaire | yes, btu somethign is tainted |
| 12:31.13 | Legorol | yup, and that's why i'm finding it so hard to find it |
| 12:31.16 | Legorol | absolutely |
| 12:31.20 | cladhaire | i assumed you knew _something_ that was tainted. |
| 12:31.24 | cladhaire | did you scan the genv? |
| 12:31.24 | Legorol | nope |
| 12:31.32 | Legorol | that's not a bad idea |
| 12:31.41 | cladhaire | I'd scan the genv, and enumerate all frames that are children of UIParent |
| 12:31.47 | cladhaire | dump it to an SV |
| 12:31.49 | cladhaire | and investigate |
| 12:31.55 | Legorol | hm |
| 12:32.02 | cladhaire | or you can use that taint mapper onupdate thingamabobi |
| 12:32.15 | Legorol | ok, DamageMeters, all by itself, doesn't cause the problem |
| 12:32.27 | Legorol | however when i was tracking this down yesterday, |
| 12:32.32 | cladhaire | but IEF does? |
| 12:32.35 | Legorol | yes |
| 12:32.35 | cladhaire | well lets start there, then :P |
| 12:32.45 | Legorol | with a bunch of AddOns turned on, turning DM on/off caused the problem, and IEF wasn't turned on |
| 12:32.51 | Legorol | yeah i'll start with IEF |
| 12:34.25 | Legorol | all right, simple question about error handlers |
| 12:34.30 | cladhaire | okay |
| 12:34.37 | Legorol | default UI sets _ERRORMESSAGE as error handler, i can see that |
| 12:34.42 | cladhaire | k |
| 12:34.45 | Legorol | does an AddOn setting a custom error handler taint anythign? |
| 12:34.57 | cladhaire | not if it uses seterrorhandler() |
| 12:35.10 | cladhaire | as far as i'm aware. |
| 12:45.31 | Luminax | rawr |
| 12:49.27 | Luminax | cladhaire can I take a moment of your time over private message ? |
| 12:50.27 | cladhaire | sure |
| 12:50.39 | cladhaire | just a moment tho, a moment and a half would be unacceptable. |
| 12:52.10 | Luminax | can I make a request edit for 'some moments' instead of 'a moment' then ;P |
| 12:53.21 | cladhaire | =) |
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| 13:45.59 | Shirik|AFK | ooooh |
| 13:46.01 | Shirik|AFK | private messages |
| 13:46.05 | Shirik|AFK | can I join in? |
| 13:46.08 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 13:50.32 | Wobin | rawr |
| 13:50.38 | Luminax | Shirik ! |
| 13:50.44 | Luminax | no you can't :3 |
| 13:50.46 | Luminax | it's personal ! |
| 13:50.47 | Shirik | :( |
| 13:50.54 | Shirik | I can be "personal"... |
| 13:50.59 | Luminax | hehe |
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| 14:09.45 | Shirik | ROFL! |
| 14:09.51 | Shirik | I found out how gold spammers are doing their spam now |
| 14:10.03 | Shirik | They invite you to a party |
| 14:10.05 | Shirik | and spam you in raid chat |
| 14:10.21 | Nom- | yeah and several other wasys |
| 14:10.22 | Nom- | ways |
| 14:10.30 | Shirik | that was awesome |
| 14:10.37 | leethal | zomg |
| 14:10.45 | leethal | what other ways is there? |
| 14:11.27 | Nom- | They still do /tell, mail |
| 14:11.45 | Nom- | I've even had them zone into Kara (or use the exploit to join the channel) and spam in there |
| 14:12.03 | leethal | -_- |
| 14:12.04 | Nom- | Get Karazhan /1 spam :) |
| 14:12.55 | leethal | it's ez mode to report/ignore them now though, so yay |
| 14:23.22 | Recluse | Invite to party for what? To get your raid key? |
| 14:23.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't gotten a spam mail since like |
| 14:23.38 | Shirik | no |
| 14:23.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, whisper |
| 14:23.47 | Shirik | so the spam filter doesnt' catch them |
| 14:23.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | since like....wednesday |
| 14:24.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also decline all unsolicited invites |
| 14:24.14 | Shirik | I will now :/ |
| 14:24.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | been a policy of mine for a while |
| 14:24.19 | Shirik | but I'm a priest it happens a lot |
| 14:24.54 | Recluse | you need an auto-invite decline addon lol |
| 14:24.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | if a group doesn't give the courtesy to ask if you wanna go before throwing an invite |
| 14:25.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | then decline it |
| 14:25.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're better off without that group |
| 14:25.39 | Shirik | not really |
| 14:25.43 | Shirik | I can't kill crap on my own :( |
| 14:26.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone needs to respec shadow |
| 14:27.00 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:27.49 | Nom- | someone needs to reroll warlock :P |
| 14:28.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously though, if they're not gonna be friendly enough to ask before inviting, they're probably not very good group players |
| 14:28.18 | Shirik | probably true |
| 14:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had nothing but success declining unsolicited tells |
| 14:29.57 | Nom- | argh |
| 14:30.06 | Nom- | i can't think of anything to do except play WoW |
| 14:30.13 | leethal | code addons |
| 14:30.22 | Luminax | Shirik ! |
| 14:30.27 | Luminax | now you have to help me ;P |
| 14:30.43 | leethal | you could for instance add the latency indication in http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Quartz to Pitbull |
| 14:31.15 | Nom- | I can't decide what to play tho |
| 14:31.22 | Nom- | Noone wants to do heroics |
| 14:31.39 | Nom- | I can't be bothered levelling my mage |
| 14:31.49 | Nom- | I dunno what i'm doing with my hunter lol |
| 14:32.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | alternatively...you could help ckknight figure out why pitbull is eating item tooltips and trinketmenu :P |
| 14:32.16 | Recluse | imho, tbc just made the game shorter. |
| 14:32.32 | Nom- | not really |
| 14:32.35 | Nom- | There's so much to do |
| 14:32.39 | Nom- | Not enough people to do it with |
| 14:32.48 | Shirik | "Your Shadow Word: Death hits Vicious Teromoth for 666 Shadow damage." |
| 14:32.51 | Shirik | something you never want to see |
| 14:32.54 | Nom- | I can't even pug a heroic |
| 14:33.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 14:33.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | back at 60 |
| 14:33.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was at the point where my claw hit for 666 and critted for 1337 all the time |
| 14:34.04 | Luminax | lol Shirik |
| 14:34.06 | Luminax | that's evil |
| 14:34.06 | Recluse | people on my server capped rep/tier a week after tbc released |
| 14:34.07 | leethal | haha |
| 14:34.28 | Luminax | Recluse : they need to find other things to do with their times then :o |
| 14:35.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure the majority of the server didn't |
| 14:35.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | just a poopsock guild or two |
| 14:35.12 | Luminax | woo hooo nothing like the feeling when something you code WORKS |
| 14:35.17 | Recluse | i got to 70 on my hunter only to find out no one likes hunters in endgame anymore (for some reason) so now i'm back to leveling rogue >.> |
| 14:35.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're going to be sadly disappointed |
| 14:35.31 | Nom- | There's not many guilds hitting the 25-mans (beyond Gruul/Mag) on our server |
| 14:35.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd suggest rolling a holy priest or other healing class if you want to be invited commonly in endgame |
| 14:35.56 | Nom- | Noone wants rogues either :P |
| 14:35.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | because no one heals anymore |
| 14:36.05 | Luminax | *shrug* I constantly raid on my rogue |
| 14:36.07 | Nom- | lol actually |
| 14:36.11 | Luminax | ah... that reminds me |
| 14:36.12 | Nom- | on our server, mages are rare |
| 14:36.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and probably won't until it's fun |
| 14:36.18 | Luminax | I need to sleep early for Gruul >< |
| 14:36.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | mages are everywhere on our server nom |
| 14:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably #2 played class i'd say |
| 14:36.35 | Recluse | i've got a 61 priest, but i'm not into raid healing lol. my rogue has a guild who wants it to be 70 already so |
| 14:36.40 | Nom- | We've actually recruited mages from other servers |
| 14:36.42 | Nom- | and had them transfe |
| 14:36.44 | Nom- | r |
| 14:36.50 | Luminax | that's hardcore... |
| 14:37.15 | Nom- | Hell, two of our Karazhan raids didn't have mages until 2 weeks ago |
| 14:37.19 | Nom- | 1 still doesn't |
| 14:37.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=93 |
| 14:37.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | warriors aren't #1 played anymore |
| 14:37.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | last time i looked they were |
| 14:37.42 | Luminax | hey Shirik |
| 14:37.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | like a month or two ago |
| 14:37.47 | Luminax | pm for a few moments ? |
| 14:37.54 | Luminax | oh wait... are you in Kara again |
| 14:38.06 | Shirik | nah, but I am in an instance >< |
| 14:38.06 | Nom- | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?PHPSESSID=5a22630d82d6471e02fb82e7a80070d4&serverid=49&factionid=2&minlevel=70&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=-1 |
| 14:38.15 | Nom- | IT claims there's so many |
| 14:38.20 | Nom- | But there's non raid-ready |
| 14:38.25 | Luminax | okie |
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| 14:39.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm raid-ready, just can't find a decent guild |
| 14:39.20 | Recluse | we take the druid over warrior these days |
| 14:39.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine is full of a bunch of noobs |
| 14:39.35 | Nom- | We've got a grand total of 3 raiding warriors |
| 14:39.54 | Nom- | we have more warlocks than you can poke a stick at |
| 14:40.00 | Recluse | lol |
| 14:40.09 | Nom- | heaps of priests |
| 14:40.14 | Nom- | heaps of rogues |
| 14:40.27 | Recluse | i'd like to see those charts broken down to what races play which classes most |
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| 14:40.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | click it |
| 14:40.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | the class |
| 14:41.20 | Recluse | woot. that's nice |
| 14:41.23 | Nom- | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?guildid=1516778 |
| 14:41.25 | Nom- | there you go |
| 14:41.31 | Nom- | 9 warlocks |
| 14:42.15 | Nom- | it says we have 6 warriors, but 1 quit, 1 is on 6 month holiday, 1 is way undergeared |
| 14:42.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?guildid=368501 |
| 14:42.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | my scrub guild |
| 14:43.56 | Nom- | Can't decide what to play... I want to play my low level alts, but I can't be bothered doing the barrens grind *again* |
| 14:44.28 | Recluse | You can do Ghostlands instead of Barrens... |
| 14:44.40 | Nom- | All paths end at the barrens :) |
| 14:44.51 | Nom- | Ghostlands 'til 20, Barrens 'til 25 |
| 14:45.28 | Recluse | Ghostlands until 21/22, then head to Silverpine for a level, and you're ready to take on Hillsbrad |
| 14:46.02 | Recluse | Well, that's how it works for me lol |
| 14:46.24 | Nom- | gonna play my mage i guess |
| 14:46.30 | Nom- | see if i can get a level |
| 14:51.38 | Recluse | I'm going to go stare at the AH until an underworld band shows up >.> |
| 14:55.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | Shadowed: you here? :O |
| 14:57.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3075 chain lighting, aghghghghgh |
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| 15:51.58 | Luminax | you there yet cladhaire ? |
| 15:52.04 | cladhaire | i'm in and out |
| 15:52.05 | cladhaire | meeting people today |
| 15:52.11 | cladhaire | you can ask your questions here.. |
| 15:52.13 | Luminax | wewt meeting :3 |
| 15:52.16 | cladhaire | most likely someone else has the same question |
| 15:52.39 | cladhaire | better to discuss stuff like you're talking about here, rather than in private.. then its logged, and other people get help too |
| 15:52.49 | Luminax | so with the variables safely saved and indexed, how do I 'count' indexes and then use it to iterate the content of the tables ? |
| 15:53.10 | cladhaire | ask me what you're trying to accomplish |
| 15:53.15 | cladhaire | not how you want to implement it=) |
| 15:53.23 | Luminax | w-ell |
| 15:53.36 | cladhaire | that's "Asking Cladhaire questions, rule #1" =) |
| 15:53.46 | cladhaire | it makes it easier on you, and we end up with better answers :P |
| 15:53.56 | Luminax | I now have the table of TTrack['realm name']['character name'].variableIwant |
| 15:54.04 | cladhaire | ok |
| 15:54.32 | Luminax | now the question is, how do I count how many instances of 'character name' there are, and how do I use it to get indices and different values of .variableIwant from different character |
| 15:54.49 | Luminax | and probably operate on those values like adding them together, or such and such |
| 15:54.49 | cladhaire | on a single server? |
| 15:54.52 | cladhaire | or across all servers? |
| 15:55.02 | cladhaire | cause right now, your data isn't very well structured |
| 15:55.03 | Luminax | for now, only on 'realm name' |
| 15:55.07 | cladhaire | i suspect your goal is a bit different |
| 15:55.11 | cladhaire | then you want |
| 15:55.19 | Luminax | after all I can't transfer money between realm ;D |
| 15:55.28 | Luminax | (not without a character transfer but meh) |
| 15:55.32 | cladhaire | for charname,entry in pairs(TTrack["realm name"]) do |
| 15:55.42 | cladhaire | -- here, entry.variableiwant |
| 15:55.42 | cladhaire | end |
| 15:55.43 | Luminax | ah |
| 15:55.58 | cladhaire | and in that loop, charname is the character's name |
| 15:56.12 | cladhaire | afk |
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| 16:14.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait, kirk beat me :[ |
| 16:14.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:14.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | and zenz |
| 16:15.16 | Kirkburn | It was only 12 hours ago .... |
| 16:15.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i was asleep 12 hours ago :[ |
| 16:23.15 | sysrage | lol figures. i finally get a group for Grulloc and server goes down |
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| 16:24.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehehe |
| 16:24.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i solod those |
| 16:24.16 | sysrage | what class? |
| 16:24.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and by solo'd i mean i mooched off a horde group running it |
| 16:24.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | because none of them are drops off them |
| 16:24.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're containers on the groun |
| 16:24.58 | sysrage | oh really? |
| 16:25.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 16:25.11 | sysrage | heh i didn't even realize that. been standing here for a long time waiting for group. watched 3 groups do it |
| 16:25.13 | sysrage | <-- noob |
| 16:25.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 16:25.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i followed a horde group around and mooched their kills |
| 16:25.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 16:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i helped kill the ones that didn't aoe |
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| 16:49.45 | a-stray-cat | anyone here play on a client other than enUS? |
| 16:52.55 | Shirik | I want to play on enFR |
| 16:53.05 | Shirik | er |
| 16:53.07 | Shirik | frUS |
| 16:53.53 | zenzelezz | that would be most frUStrating |
| 16:54.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | like 20 people, some in LA, some near canada :p |
| 16:54.28 | Shirik | hey |
| 16:54.29 | zenzelezz | I'm on enGB anyhow |
| 16:54.33 | Shirik | there's some in louisiana too |
| 16:54.41 | nevcairiel | i play on enGB, but its pretty similar to enUS ;) |
| 16:54.48 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:54.53 | Shirik | they just shove Us in everywhere |
| 16:54.56 | Shirik | that's the only different |
| 16:54.59 | Shirik | difference* |
| 16:55.00 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 16:55.10 | nevcairiel | i think the texts are the same |
| 16:56.29 | a-stray-cat | zenzelezz or nevcairiel: can you help me out a sec? people from other locales are reportting an error i dont get on the US version :< |
| 16:57.12 | zenzelezz | afraid I'm a bit busy right now |
| 16:57.31 | a-stray-cat | thanks anyhow ;o |
| 16:57.39 | nevcairiel | what would i have todo? |
| 16:57.57 | a-stray-cat | just play with my addon a bit, see if you get the error :X |
| 16:59.27 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt rely expect enGB to break |
| 16:59.31 | nevcairiel | but sure |
| 16:59.32 | nevcairiel | link me |
| 17:00.24 | a-stray-cat | one that's reporting happenst o be from enGB ;p |
| 17:00.34 | a-stray-cat | http://files.wowace.com/SorrenTimers/SorrenTimers.zip |
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| 17:02.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Shirik> there's some in louisiana too |
| 17:02.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | aka LA :O |
| 17:02.45 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:02.45 | Shirik | I was thinking Los Angeles |
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| 17:03.33 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:03.39 | Shirik | someone killed one of those arcane guardians |
| 17:03.42 | Shirik | in the scryer tier |
| 17:03.54 | Nom- | lol |
| 17:04.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:04.07 | Wobin | maybe it jumped |
| 17:04.43 | nevcairiel | a-stray-cat: they didnt list any specifics to reproduce that ? ;) |
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| 17:13.08 | a-stray-cat | what class are you? |
| 17:13.16 | a-stray-cat | no, they didnt :< so im having a hard time tracking it down |
| 17:13.27 | a-stray-cat | one said freeze trap was setting it off when the bar finished |
| 17:13.31 | a-stray-cat | he was on deDE though |
| 17:15.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love terrorizing the Aldor guardians |
| 17:15.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | fly down in flight form, watch them start casting, and fly back up |
| 17:18.21 | a-stray-cat | don't accidentally die on aldor rise |
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| 17:18.21 | a-stray-cat | you pop on the GY up top |
| 17:18.45 | a-stray-cat | and theres a wall preventing you from going back down |
| 17:18.49 | a-stray-cat | so unless you're pretty good at cliff jumping you'd have to drop down into nagrand to get back to your body ;P |
| 17:24.39 | Nom- | mew |
| 17:25.11 | nevcairiel | ive been testing on my druid for a while now |
| 17:25.20 | nevcairiel | will test my warlock too, wanted to play him anyway :D |
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| 17:40.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 17:41.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | some guy was complaining about people recruiting in guildrecruitment |
| 17:41.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | then someone advertised their enchants and he started complaining about that |
| 17:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love making fun of peoples' stupidity in public :D |
| 17:42.10 | Adys | hm |
| 17:42.24 | Adys | how comes im not able to disable the auto dismount thing since 2.1? |
| 17:42.37 | Adys | I only got the "Auto Dismount even in flight" option |
| 17:42.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a new 'feature' |
| 17:42.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | afaik you can't disable it |
| 17:42.51 | Adys | oh thats shit... |
| 17:42.53 | amro | its a conspiracy |
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| 17:46.58 | Punkie` | you can disable it |
| 17:47.19 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.43 | Punkie` | or make a macro with: /script local n = GetCVar("autoDismount"); SetCVar("autoDismount", n == 0 and 1 or 0) to turn it on/off toggle |
| 17:47.54 | Adys | thanks alot Punkie` |
| 17:47.58 | Punkie` | nps |
| 17:48.04 | Adys | is there a way to save it too? |
| 17:48.24 | Punkie` | I think the console commands are saved |
| 17:48.30 | Punkie` | but I'm not 100% sure, test it out |
| 17:48.35 | Adys | hm pitchlimit wasnt saved before =P |
| 17:48.43 | Adys | but might be changed in 2.1 |
| 17:49.59 | Punkie` | try just putting SET autoDismount 0 in config.wtf |
| 17:50.08 | Adys | aye will do |
| 17:51.29 | Adys | thanks :) |
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| 17:56.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | pitchlomit was straight up removed |
| 17:56.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl, auctioneer was using 17 Mb of ram |
| 17:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | limit* |
| 17:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, changing it at least |
| 18:03.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, while I love auctioneer |
| 18:03.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It's really just too heavy for me to use |
| 18:04.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 18:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Which, while it is loaded on demand |
| 18:04.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Still sucks to load at all :/ |
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| 18:05.30 | Cide | the question is how much it affects your performance |
| 18:05.53 | Shirik | As I have said many times |
| 18:05.58 | Shirik | for two equally well written addons |
| 18:06.09 | Shirik | memory usage is almost always inversely proportional to responsiveness |
| 18:06.19 | Cide | people are very careful with using ui memory (likely because of the ace[2] hysteria, or at least partly because of it) |
| 18:06.23 | Cide | exactly |
| 18:06.40 | Cide | less memory usage = more cpu usage |
| 18:06.49 | Cide | for two equally well written addons... |
| 18:07.13 | nevcairiel | if its static memory usage sure, if its garbage .. thats nother point :) |
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| 18:07.23 | Cide | nevcairiel: why? |
| 18:07.34 | Shadowed | imo |
| 18:07.39 | nevcairiel | because garbage gets collected, and that uses cpu again |
| 18:07.57 | Cide | that's true |
| 18:08.07 | Shadowed | Unless your computer is really old, you aren't going to have to worry about saving 5 KB of memory |
| 18:08.16 | nevcairiel | true |
| 18:08.19 | Cide | or 5 mb |
| 18:08.35 | Shadowed | Honestly they shouldn't have given people access to any of this info, since all it does is have the uneducated users thinking that lower is better no matter what |
| 18:08.35 | leethal | ~poke ckknight |
| 18:08.49 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ckknight, pokes ckknight repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:08.49 | nevcairiel | but there are still some addons which slow down the game noticeable |
| 18:08.54 | Shadowed | true |
| 18:08.58 | Shirik | for the record though |
| 18:09.02 | Shadowed | but the majority of the addons don't however |
| 18:09.04 | Cide | nevcairiel: those aren't well written |
| 18:09.06 | Shirik | auctioneer has a huge ass memory leak / memory churn |
| 18:09.12 | Shirik | informix to be exact |
| 18:09.19 | Shirik | whenever you hover over an item |
| 18:09.23 | Shirik | and THAT's bad for performance |
| 18:09.27 | Shadowed | performance is great, but worrying about every single KB or CPU cycle is just being silly, you'd probably see a bigger increase in game play reducing your settings |
| 18:09.29 | Shirik | but that doesn't fall into the category of "well written" |
| 18:09.47 | nevcairiel | Cide: not arguing with that ;) |
| 18:10.06 | AnduinLothar | anyone have a good addon cpu monitor gui? |
| 18:10.37 | Shadowed | theres like 10 addons that give you overall CPU usage on addons |
| 18:10.46 | AnduinLothar | or even better cpu + memory |
| 18:10.48 | Shadowed | trying to get something that gives better info per addon for debugging |
| 18:10.59 | AnduinLothar | wtb bar graphs |
| 18:11.11 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:11.26 | Shadowed | I'd rather use percentages |
| 18:11.32 | AnduinLothar | both! |
| 18:11.39 | AnduinLothar | pie graph? |
| 18:11.45 | AnduinLothar | chart* |
| 18:12.35 | Shadowed | no percentages, as in those little "%" things =p |
| 18:12.35 | Cide | but yeah -- memory usage is not a measure of performance, unless you're page swapping every 3 seconds, in which case you have other problems |
| 18:12.35 | Shadowed | may try adding a chart type thing later, but rather just get a basic UI up |
| 18:12.37 | AnduinLothar | actually, i'd even take a mod to the new latency bar tooltip that adds for all addons and not just 3 |
| 18:12.41 | Shadowed | CPU isn't either really, since when it's happening matters |
| 18:13.06 | Shadowed | AnduinLothar: Theres like, 10 addons out that give you overall memory and/or CPU usage, I think like 7 of them are in the ace SVN |
| 18:13.16 | nevcairiel | an addon with real big OnUpdate calls could prolly be optimized .. slightly :P |
| 18:13.19 | Shirik | I imagine |
| 18:13.21 | AnduinLothar | oooh ace, just what i need more of! |
| 18:13.25 | Shirik | ace shows it takes a ton of memory? |
| 18:13.48 | AnduinLothar | anyone got a recommended one? |
| 18:13.49 | Shirik | the way VFL is set up, RDX appears to take zero memory |
| 18:13.57 | Shadowed | Well yea, but if it's happening OnUpdate then that matters =p |
| 18:13.59 | Shirik | and everything goes to VFL |
| 18:16.20 | Shirik | I still love how RDX is taking up less memory than ZRangeCheck |
| 18:16.24 | Shirik | haven't quite figured that one out yet |
| 18:17.39 | ckknight | leethal: hrm? |
| 18:18.09 | leethal | ckknight: if you add the latency indicator thingie from http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Quartz, I'll love you (more) |
| 18:18.15 | leethal | (to PitBull) |
| 18:18.15 | Shirik | umm |
| 18:18.24 | Shirik | it's on PerformanceFu :( |
| 18:18.27 | Shirik | I think that's enough >< |
| 18:18.39 | ckknight | leethal: well, perhaps. |
| 18:19.03 | nevcairiel | a-stray-cat: ive been questing for like an hour with SorrenTimers on now, and didnt get any errors .. i will keep it active for a while longer tho. |
| 18:20.06 | nevcairiel | on a side note, a lot of people in my guild keep complaining that they cannot switch people between raid groups when in combat, are there any addons out there which are known to taint that part ? |
| 18:20.32 | Shirik | I'll try it tonight to try to exclude some |
| 18:21.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Curious... anyone know why DevTools takes up ~1.78MB of RAM? |
| 18:21.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Does it do things passively that I don't know about? |
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| 18:21.23 | nevcairiel | mine uses 1.80, what an outrage! |
| 18:21.23 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:21.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 18:21.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Just curious |
| 18:21.34 | Shirik | mine uses 2.1!! |
| 18:21.39 | Shirik | I'm disappointed Iriel |
| 18:21.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I never thought that it would need that much memory for no apparent reason |
| 18:21.59 | Shirik | well |
| 18:22.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't get me wrong, it's not enough that I'm whining ;) |
| 18:22.06 | Shirik | I run with /dtchatevent on |
| 18:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Just curious |
| 18:22.13 | Shirik | which surely takes up a bit |
| 18:22.20 | AnduinLothar | diaf end users |
| 18:22.25 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:22.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I have it off |
| 18:23.14 | Shadowed | ScytheBlade1: It's the event recording |
| 18:23.27 | Shadowed | it has around 350-370 events saved for the /dtevents cmd |
| 18:23.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah-ha |
| 18:23.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That would be it |
| 18:23.55 | AnduinLothar | RegisterAll |
| 18:24.11 | Shadowed | Have you used /dtevents before? =p |
| 18:24.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Haven't had a need :P |
| 18:24.27 | Shirik | it's godly |
| 18:24.28 | Shadowed | talking to AL! |
| 18:24.31 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest, I mostly use it for /reload ;) |
| 18:24.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 18:25.14 | AnduinLothar | yes i use it |
| 18:25.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight, I have a bunch of suggestions for pitbull. Post them on the wiki suggestions list, I take it? |
| 18:25.23 | AnduinLothar | mostly for chat events |
| 18:25.35 | AnduinLothar | like when debugging DamageMeters |
| 18:25.47 | Shirik | yes /dtchatevent is so nice |
| 18:26.00 | Shirik | but /dteventtrace helps too |
| 18:26.13 | ckknight | ScytheBlade1: there's a wishlist |
| 18:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight, k, I'll post there |
| 18:26.43 | ckknight | ScytheBlade1: if you put it there as opposed to telling me or posting on the forums, it's much more likely to actually happen |
| 18:26.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight, I like those odds |
| 18:28.13 | Corrodias | these days, my UI hovers around 100mb of total memory usage whenever i glance at the number |
| 18:28.31 | AnduinLothar | 100 O.o |
| 18:28.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch. |
| 18:28.40 | AnduinLothar | I have 150 some addons and i'm at 42.. |
| 18:28.45 | a-stray-cat | nevcairiel: thanks for testing. i wonder where its coming from then |
| 18:28.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine hovers around 12MB :P |
| 18:30.40 | Shadowed | Mines like 20 MB but I could get it down to 8 if I disabled all of my dev addons |
| 18:30.40 | AnduinLothar | but why |
| 18:30.40 | AnduinLothar | i mean even 100... |
| 18:30.40 | Shadowed | don't really care either way, does what i want too! |
| 18:30.41 | AnduinLothar | if you have 2gb ram.. |
| 18:30.41 | Shadowed | He probably uses something like wowhead data gatherer or something |
| 18:30.41 | AnduinLothar | I have the GameAmp one running (because i wrote it) and it only uses 3mb |
| 18:30.47 | AnduinLothar | Auc is top with 6mb |
| 18:31.17 | Shirik | RDXM_Windows takes up 400KB supposedly |
| 18:31.17 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:31.22 | Shirik | I don't know where these numbers come from... |
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| 18:32.53 | Shadowed | I'm sure if you looked at a list of addons, theres a couple of data type ones that use lots of memory |
| 18:33.10 | Shirik | yeah the library actually |
| 18:33.40 | Shirik | most modules aren't showing up at all |
| 18:33.48 | Shirik | it seems like everything gets sent to VFL |
| 18:33.57 | Corrodias | well, yes, i'm running wowhead and allakhazam database addons |
| 18:34.18 | Shadowed | theres your answer AL =p |
| 18:34.19 | Corrodias | it used to be closer to 130mb when i had the full herb & ore database for cartographer, but we don't have a new one since 2.1 so i removed them |
| 18:34.54 | Corrodias | but let me check with performancefu about which addons are using the most memory |
| 18:35.20 | Corrodias | loading the game... |
| 18:35.45 | AnduinLothar | ResourceTools: Gatherer is using 488.69 KB memory. |
| 18:35.47 | Corrodias | actually, i'm being silly. it was closer to 80-90mb after a garbage collection before |
| 18:36.08 | Corrodias | i tended to look at the memory usage when it was collecting because it would slow down the game, of course |
| 18:38.37 | Corrodias | let me see what it is for me NOW after a garbage collection. 70mb. the highest memory-using addon is Saeris's LootLink at 16.64mb. next highest is auctioneer at 6mb, sw_stats at 4mb, atlasloot at 3.34mb, informant (auctioneer) at 3.24mb, tbag at 2.21mb, and so on. |
| 18:39.41 | AnduinLothar | lol sw stats |
| 18:39.57 | AnduinLothar | ResourceTools: DamageMeters is using 484.71 KB memory. |
| 18:40.42 | Corrodias | my guildmates were using sw_stats back before 2.0 instead of damagemeters because of the flexibility, i think. but it has a 2.1 bug and has irritated me enough to install your damagemeters. |
| 18:41.03 | AnduinLothar | what kind of flexability? |
| 18:41.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 18:41.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I like the timeline part of SW, plain and simple |
| 18:41.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I can store data in multiple segments, and then go back to see who did what and when |
| 18:41.33 | AnduinLothar | that' snot flexability, that's a feature |
| 18:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | It's flexability in viewing data |
| 18:41.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is really all that damage meters are good for, viewing data ;) |
| 18:42.11 | Shirik | damage meters aren't good for anything except e-peens |
| 18:42.21 | AnduinLothar | except DM doesn't actually store that data |
| 18:42.21 | Corrodias | i don't really remember. it's been a long time since i've delved into the depths of the meters |
| 18:42.30 | Shadowed | Eh |
| 18:42.31 | AnduinLothar | DM onyl stores the numbers, not a timeline |
| 18:42.59 | Shadowed | DMs are useful for trying to figure out which rotation of abilities or which gear/spec works, but since we don't have a fight like Patchwerk getting valid number is rather hard |
| 18:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I use SW over DM for really only a few reasons: ease of sorting/selective display, clean, accessible UI, and the timeline feature. |
| 18:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I used DM for months, never liked the UI |
| 18:43.30 | AnduinLothar | what didn't you liek about it? |
| 18:43.34 | Shadowed | DM and SW both have confusing UIs |
| 18:43.46 | AnduinLothar | just that it didn't have features or was there something negative about it |
| 18:43.57 | ScytheBlade1 | You've probably changed it since then, so my ideas on the matter are invalid :) |
| 18:44.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll give it a spin soonish and get back to you. |
| 18:44.57 | Corrodias | one thing was the ability to set up multiple option sets for the display and have them choosable by clicking on little buttons below the box |
| 18:45.00 | nevcairiel | altho it eats alot of performance, i like the new SW_UniLog |
| 18:45.32 | AnduinLothar | so, hot swaping between display modes? |
| 18:45.37 | Corrodias | rather than right click -> visible quantity -> find the thing that most closely matches what you're looking for |
| 18:45.42 | AnduinLothar | instead of navigating the dropdown |
| 18:45.49 | Corrodias | that's one nice thing, yeah |
| 18:46.11 | AnduinLothar | they would have to be customizable if i added thta because there's too many modes |
| 18:47.32 | Corrodias | indeed. i had set up "damage done", "healing done", and "overheal" buttons |
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| 18:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight, suggestions added to wishlist |
| 18:49.23 | Corrodias | i also had a "spell efficiency" button so i could see what the mana efficiency of each of my spells turned out to be. i haven't used that one much since i respecced feral. |
| 18:49.46 | AnduinLothar | mreh, that's outside the scope of DM |
| 18:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I threw in a decurse count option, just to make sure I was keeping up |
| 18:50.08 | AnduinLothar | since it requires spellbook scanning and spell event registering |
| 18:50.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Regardless, installing the latest version of DM now to give you valid feedback and comparisons |
| 18:51.06 | AnduinLothar | i dont mind adding useful features or changes, but I'm not gonna feature creep it into all of what SW stats does |
| 18:52.19 | Corrodias | that's fine. ooh, i just figured out how to change the background from red to black. yay! |
| 18:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's what I had a problem with the last time I used DM (in comparison to SW) |
| 18:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It really comes down to the little buttons on the bottom, lol (of SW) |
| 18:54.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I can setup multiple views of the data in question, and quickly switch between them - to see all relevant data in a clear manner |
| 18:55.44 | Corrodias | i made the switch to SW before you took it over, so i didn't think to mention it to you |
| 18:56.05 | Corrodias | *before you took DM over |
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| 19:09.24 | Recluse | I like what sw has to offer, but dm was more accurate during my testing |
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| 19:13.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Recluse, how do you determine "accurate"? (curious) |
| 19:14.36 | nevcairiel | is there any standalone addon like SW_UniLog ( combatlog recodring with filtering afterwards - regex et al ) ? |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | standalone? |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | dunno |
| 19:14.36 | nevcairiel | like not needing SWS to run :P |
| 19:14.36 | nevcairiel | I know RDX has something similar or? |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | ya |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | well |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | it's still pre-alpha |
| 19:14.37 | Shirik | but it exists |
| 19:15.12 | sysrage | damn.. the level flight macro somebody in here made doesn't work anymore |
| 19:15.16 | sysrage | was that you shirik? |
| 19:15.31 | nevcairiel | they removed some functions for that iirc |
| 19:15.41 | Shirik | sec healing |
| 19:15.56 | Corrodias | can't have people flying upside down! |
| 19:15.58 | Corrodias | ITS CHAOS!@ |
| 19:16.02 | sysrage | heh |
| 19:16.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:16.35 | Shirik | to answer your question no |
| 19:16.39 | a-stray-cat | they're readding it in 2.2 aren't they? |
| 19:17.07 | Shirik | I did FlightHUD |
| 19:17.08 | Shirik | that's it |
| 19:17.13 | Shirik | which never got finished |
| 19:17.15 | Shirik | I need to work on that some |
| 19:17.54 | Recluse | a horizon tracker? |
| 19:17.54 | Corrodias | flighthud? |
| 19:18.15 | Shirik | yes, artificial horizon |
| 19:18.20 | Shirik | and hopefully VSI if I can get it to work right |
| 19:18.23 | Corrodias | cool |
| 19:18.25 | Corrodias | VSI? |
| 19:18.32 | Shirik | a VSI would imply an altimeter is possible too |
| 19:18.46 | Shirik | feared |
| 19:18.46 | Shirik | oops |
| 19:18.53 | Corrodias | do it do it do it |
| 19:18.56 | Recluse | lol |
| 19:18.59 | sysrage | quick. pop WOF! |
| 19:19.04 | Shirik | VSI = vertical speed indicator |
| 19:19.05 | Shirik | WOF? |
| 19:19.07 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:19.08 | Shirik | I'm BE |
| 19:19.11 | sysrage | :) |
| 19:19.12 | Recluse | Sounds like a very interesting addon |
| 19:19.22 | Corrodias | DO IT DO IT DO IT |
| 19:19.32 | Shirik | sorry, at my school, these acronyms are tossed around like candy |
| 19:19.42 | Shirik | kinda used to everyone knowing them >< |
| 19:21.15 | nevcairiel | what was that addon called which adds wowhead comments to the ingame questlog |
| 19:21.20 | nevcairiel | i think clad wrote it .. |
| 19:21.22 | Shirik | lightheaded |
| 19:21.28 | cladhaire | yep |
| 19:21.50 | nevcairiel | ive started leveling my warlock to 70 .. might come in handy :D |
| 19:21.58 | Corrodias | Shirik |
| 19:21.58 | Corrodias | do it |
| 19:22.04 | Shirik | I'm working on it |
| 19:22.08 | Shirik | it already gets the angle correctly |
| 19:22.12 | Corrodias | :) |
| 19:22.15 | Shirik | I just need to do the HUD part |
| 19:24.08 | Corrodias | is there a way to make DM a little wider? |
| 19:24.58 | Cide | sysrage: I made it.. what's up? |
| 19:28.43 | Recluse | Post 2.x is it even possible to have intelligent action bars anymore? |
| 19:28.50 | Shirik | define "intelligent" |
| 19:28.57 | Shirik | my answer to that would be yes |
| 19:29.25 | Recluse | I was a huge fan of Discord's bars due to the fact that you could script them. |
| 19:29.45 | Shirik | probably in the sense you're thinking, no |
| 19:29.59 | Recluse | "hide button 24 until health is less than 60%" for example |
| 19:30.04 | Shirik | no |
| 19:30.10 | Shirik | though you can disable it |
| 19:30.12 | Cide | depends on what you mean with hide |
| 19:30.24 | Recluse | even if it's just alpha'd out? |
| 19:30.28 | sysrage | cide: not possible anymore? |
| 19:30.38 | Cide | that works, yes, Recluse |
| 19:30.40 | Recluse | well i heard that discord broke because it created them on the fly |
| 19:32.25 | Recluse | moving to alpha/strata changes, it seems like it'd still work |
| 19:32.25 | Shirik | setting alpha to 0 is not the same as :Hide() |
| 19:32.25 | sysrage | cide: level flight, that is |
| 19:32.31 | Recluse | hehe, sorry not hip on all the implied technojargon with this stuff really |
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| 19:33.55 | Alex_0013 | hi |
| 19:34.23 | Recluse | hello |
| 19:35.19 | Atriace | how do you print a table to the chat window? |
| 19:36.47 | Alex_0013 | so how do you exactly start using auctioneer? ive scanned for about 6 days about 2 times aday now what? |
| 19:37.50 | kergoth | what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 19:38.00 | kergoth | what do you mean by "start using"? |
| 19:38.40 | Atriace | If you haven't already, be sure some of the other mods are installed (informant, stubby, etc...). Whenever you hover over an item, you should be getting price listings. Beyond that, whenever you post an auction, Auctioneer will automatically enter a default price based on the average selling point of that item. |
| 19:38.47 | Alex_0013 | well ive looked at a bunch of guides on how to use it but it only basicly talks about scanning so i dont know what to do after that |
| 19:38.59 | Recluse | scan for data, and it shows up in tooltips and suggest prices when posting auctions basically |
| 19:39.08 | Atriace | echo |
| 19:39.25 | Atriace | :p |
| 19:39.29 | Recluse | :p |
| 19:40.28 | Alex_0013 | i get prices when i hover over the item, but in some guides it says it will tell you to buy something |
| 19:40.38 | Alex_0013 | and i dont get those pop ps |
| 19:40.43 | Alex_0013 | *ups |
| 19:40.48 | Atriace | 0_o |
| 19:41.23 | Atriace | I think you're refering to when looking to craft items, some mods will tell you what you need to buy and how much it will cost (based on Auctioneer data). |
| 19:41.54 | kergoth | tell you to buy something? perhaps you're thinking of bottomscanner, not auctioneer |
| 19:42.11 | Alex_0013 | it said in the auction houe window u can scan for items to make a profit of it |
| 19:42.13 | kergoth | you need to figure out what you want to do before you expect us to tell you how to do it. |
| 19:42.31 | kergoth | you scan so that you'll know what things sell for. |
| 19:42.44 | Alex_0013 | i did that and then? |
| 19:42.49 | kergoth | auctioneer provides an interface to search for items selling for less than they'r eworth, its a tab called 'search auctions' at the ah |
| 19:42.53 | kergoth | "then"? |
| 19:43.00 | kergoth | for the 5th time, it depends on what exactly you want to do., |
| 19:43.05 | kergoth | we can't read your mind. |
| 19:43.10 | kergoth | try saying what your goal is |
| 19:43.23 | Alex_0013 | o i had no clue wat that tab was thanks maby i can figure something out |
| 19:43.41 | kergoth | if you didnt know what it was, why didnt you click on it and try it and see? it isn't difficult |
| 19:44.07 | Alex_0013 | welll when i tried it i got erorrs at first |
| 19:44.45 | Alex_0013 | so i type in how much i wanna make and search? |
| 19:44.52 | sysrage | wow |
| 19:45.02 | Alex_0013 | sorry im new to addons |
| 19:45.07 | Atriace | lol |
| 19:45.12 | Recluse | did you do a "/auctioneer load"? |
| 19:45.17 | sysrage | new to using your brain too, it seems |
| 19:45.23 | Atriace | be nice. |
| 19:46.19 | Alex_0013 | no ididnt do the loadthing gona do it now |
| 19:46.23 | kergoth | if someone can't be bothered to try to figure something out for themselves, i see no point in helping them |
| 19:46.43 | Recluse | they said they rtfm'd and scanned a few times |
| 19:47.11 | kergoth | people say a lot of things. had he rtfm'd, he wouldn't be here wasting our time, he'd already have his answers |
| 19:48.26 | Aita | Addons are overwhelming for a good many people, especially if they have no experience with them, so I empathize with their plight. =( |
| 19:48.27 | Corrodias | /auctioneer load always |
| 19:49.36 | Recluse | if you're not getting the tooltips, might need to double check you got enhtooltip and stubby and such, but i thought those were required dependencies... |
| 19:56.41 | Alex_0013 | ok it loaded |
| 20:01.33 | Alex_0013 | ok so i searched and i found a whole bunch of stuff and i got a pop up from the btm scanner |
| 20:01.56 | Alex_0013 | and it said to buy for vender so i get it and sell it and i send up wih less cash :? |
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| 20:13.47 | Recluse | hmm |
| 20:14.10 | Alex_0013 | so the info on seling to venders is bugged i guess or i did something wrong |
| 20:14.50 | Recluse | earlier today it was telling me to buy a gem for 75s because it vendored for 1g, but i knew that gems only sold for 25s. not sure what happened to make it a different value |
| 20:15.17 | Recluse | you might be having a similar problem |
| 20:16.51 | Alex_0013 | ya : / |
| 20:17.15 | Alex_0013 | so dont trust that vender |
| 20:18.05 | Alex_0013 | any items u recomend that has some value? |
| 20:18.21 | Recluse | lots of addons having bugs with this patch it seems lol |
| 20:20.24 | Alex_0013 | i did that search tab right now and it says results are more then 24 hours out of date : / |
| 20:22.27 | Alex_0013 | and i just scanned |
| 20:23.54 | Recluse | very odd |
| 20:27.05 | Alex_0013 | ill just run the btm scan and ignore the vender ones |
| 20:28.11 | Alex_0013 | do any of you know where to get blue dragon hawk hatchling? |
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| 21:13.30 | sysrage | anybody use GroupFu or some other FuBar mod to keep track of rolls? |
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| 21:19.03 | Corrodias | another thing about SW vs damagemeters: |
| 21:19.24 | Corrodias | SW_stats seems to be quite accurate without synchronization, while DM is completely off in this party unless i synchronize... |
| 21:19.32 | Corrodias | i wonder if i have a setting wrong |
| 21:29.11 | sysrage | nah. sw just owns |
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| 21:43.26 | Corrodias | our hunter is our only form of CC and he's underperforming. >:/ |
| 21:43.50 | Corrodias | he often isn't pulling the mobs off me to get freezing trapped even though he knows about it |
| 21:45.34 | Corrodias | and as a tank, i'm putting out as much damage as him (and significantly more than the holy paladin who wanted to dps *eyeroll*) |
| 21:56.16 | Adys | is there an easy slash command to switch to group loot? |
| 21:56.23 | Adys | or something macro'able |
| 21:57.18 | subbawt | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetLootMethod |
| 21:58.31 | subbawt | so macro like /script SetLootMethod("group") |
| 21:59.49 | Corrodias | and i think we're having a REALLY hard time focusing on our assigned targets |
| 22:01.09 | Adys | thanks subbawt |
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| 22:15.38 | Corrodias | people standing around with under 70% mana, not drinking... |
| 22:18.12 | Corrodias | the hunter doesn't know how long his trap is supposed to last |
| 22:19.30 | sysrage | lol what are you doing? |
| 22:19.32 | sysrage | PUG kara? |
| 22:19.49 | zenzelezz | Time for fun! This... no... good... |
| 22:20.33 | Corrodias | nah, a guild shadow lab run |
| 22:20.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:20.42 | Corrodias | but it's disasterous by guild standards |
| 22:20.51 | sysrage | lol, ya |
| 22:21.02 | nevcairiel | i hate shadowlabs |
| 22:21.08 | nevcairiel | dont ask me how i got exalted there :( |
| 22:22.48 | Corrodias | and i still have the second highest "damage done" of anyone in the party |
| 22:23.49 | Corrodias | oh, no, the hunter -is- matching me. |
| 22:24.30 | Corrodias | and i think that is including his pet |
| 22:24.39 | Corrodias | druid tank ftw? o.o |
| 22:25.42 | nevcairiel | your hunter ftl? |
| 22:25.47 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 22:26.14 | nevcairiel | no dps'er should always be anywhere near the tank, or even behind :P |
| 22:27.10 | nevcairiel | s/always/ever/ |
| 22:27.14 | nevcairiel | its getting late :o |
| 22:28.52 | Corrodias | the paladin and the hunter had a consecration and freezing trap on the same spot |
| 22:28.59 | Corrodias | i don't know who put theirs down first, but the other one's a douche |
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| 23:32.11 | zenzelezz | man, Shadow Labs with 1 heal priest, 2 shadow priests was too easy |
| 23:40.56 | Corrodias | the hunter has now broken his own trap three times |
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| 23:41.08 | Corrodias | total. we're starting another run, you see. only twice in the first run. |
| 23:46.37 | zenzelezz | our team also had a not so good hunter |
| 23:46.58 | zenzelezz | when the leader asked him what his /played time was, he said it was 25 days or so |
| 23:47.30 | zenzelezz | leader concluded he was e-bayed or otherwise powerleveled |
| 23:49.58 | Corrodias | 25 days, hmm... |
| 23:50.08 | Corrodias | unless it's not his main |
| 23:50.45 | zenzelezz | yeah, I thought the same |
| 23:51.53 | zenzelezz | was hard to tell really; he didn't seem like the type that could level that fast, but he also seemed smarted than the average powerleveled char; even if not by much |
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