| 00:00.01 | Karrion | they can ask the UI to reload, which forces a save, but freezes the UI for a number of seconds |
| 00:00.09 | Corrodias | HOORAY for 2.1! but i bet my addons are screwed up :) |
| 00:00.11 | Mike-N-Go | What is the question? |
| 00:00.27 | zenzelezz | addons can't reload the UI on their own, only if the user says so |
| 00:00.28 | Bleeter | the question is, should I make another coffee |
| 00:00.29 | Corrodias | WHAT... is your favorite color? |
| 00:00.33 | Bleeter | blue |
| 00:00.34 | Bleeter | no |
| 00:00.36 | Zxcvb | it is just that I haven't noticed any data loss when WoW crashes |
| 00:00.36 | Bleeter | yellow! |
| 00:00.37 | Bleeter | aaargh! |
| 00:00.51 | Corrodias | if it -crashes-, it won't save them. if you're disconnected, it will. |
| 00:01.08 | zenzelezz | what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow? |
| 00:01.21 | Bleeter | african or european? |
| 00:01.27 | chuckg | HOw do you use that cide bot again? =D |
| 00:01.28 | Karrion | african or european swallow? |
| 00:01.29 | zenzelezz | I don't know that! |
| 00:01.32 | Karrion | bah I type too slow |
| 00:01.37 | JoshBorke | i don't know that! |
| 00:01.48 | newt | BURN HER! |
| 00:01.53 | JoshBorke | there's that echo again |
| 00:01.54 | Bleeter | I got better |
| 00:01.55 | Cide | >>> "hi" |
| 00:01.55 | Cide | Cide: "hi" |
| 00:02.02 | chuckg | Gotcha. |
| 00:02.04 | chuckg | Thanks Cide. |
| 00:02.15 | Cide | feel free to use me anyt... err. |
| 00:02.21 | TC-Working | >>> woot |
| 00:02.21 | Cide | TC-Working: nil |
| 00:02.23 | nymbia | that's kinda hawt. |
| 00:02.25 | chuckg | How do I get it to print a sepcific value at the end? |
| 00:02.26 | TC-Working | heh |
| 00:02.39 | Cide | return the value or print() it |
| 00:02.39 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 1; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; math_fmod(messageID, bufferSize) + ((1 -chatFrameID) * 128) |
| 00:02.39 | Cide | chuckg: [string "messageID = 1; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; math_fmod(m..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '+' |
| 00:02.42 | Corrodias | retrieving character list! |
| 00:03.05 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 1; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; math.fmod(messageID, bufferSize) + ((1 -chatFrameID) * 128) |
| 00:03.05 | Cide | chuckg: [string "messageID = 1; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; math.fmod(m..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '+' |
| 00:03.10 | Corrodias | or not! |
| 00:03.35 | Mike-N-Go | >>> ptint("Hello") |
| 00:03.35 | Cide | Mike-N-Go: [string "ptint("Hello")"]:1: attempt to call global 'ptint' (a nil value) |
| 00:03.56 | Mike-N-Go | >>> print("Hello.") |
| 00:03.56 | Cide | Mike-N-Go: "Hello." |
| 00:03.59 | chuckg | Hmm why doesn't that last work.. |
| 00:04.05 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 1; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID, bufferSize) + ((1 -chatFrameID) * 128)) |
| 00:04.06 | Cide | chuckg: 1 |
| 00:04.08 | chuckg | Oh good. |
| 00:04.09 | Mike-N-Go | Spelling ftl. |
| 00:04.11 | chuckg | Guess I needed a print in there. |
| 00:04.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | Retrieving character list |
| 00:04.19 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 129; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID, bufferSize) + ((1 -chatFrameID) * 128)) |
| 00:04.20 | Cide | chuckg: 129 |
| 00:04.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | gogogogogogo >:[ |
| 00:04.32 | chuckg | Boo. |
| 00:05.24 | chuckg | >>> math.fmod(129, 896) |
| 00:05.24 | Cide | chuckg: 129 |
| 00:05.27 | Corrodias | i shall amuse myself while my character list doesn't load by updating addons |
| 00:05.39 | Corrodias | or staring at a blank browser page |
| 00:05.46 | Moskau | Retrieving character list Corrodias. DON'T GO AWAY, IT WILL BE HERE SOON. |
| 00:05.47 | Moskau | bahaha |
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| 00:06.00 | Corrodias | oh god, i love this "Extremely low bandwidth version" |
| 00:07.28 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 129; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID - 1, bufferSize) + (1 + (chatFrameID * 128))) |
| 00:07.28 | Cide | chuckg: 257 |
| 00:11.26 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 129; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID - 1, bufferSize) + (1 + ((chatFrameID - 1) * 128))) |
| 00:11.26 | Cide | chuckg: 129 |
| 00:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | never gonna give you up |
| 00:12.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | never gonna let you down |
| 00:12.14 | zenzelezz | I'm still having trouble seeing how my Defense is calculated |
| 00:12.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | never gonna run around and desert you |
| 00:12.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | GET OUT OF MY HEAD RICK ASHTLEY arrgghgh |
| 00:12.29 | Kaydeethree | lol |
| 00:12.29 | zenzelezz | I can log in with 490, unequip and re-equip an item and get 496 |
| 00:12.36 | Kaydeethree | I've yet to fall for a rickroll link |
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| 00:13.42 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 129; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID - 1, 128) + (1 + ((chatFrameID - 1) * 128))) |
| 00:13.43 | Cide | chuckg: 1 |
| 00:13.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't fall for them |
| 00:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i willingly click them |
| 00:13.49 | Corrodias | If a man could be to places at one time, I'd be with you. Tomorrow and today, beside you all the way. |
| 00:13.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and listen to the song |
| 00:13.54 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 129; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID - 1, 128) + (1 + (chatFrameID * 128))) |
| 00:13.55 | Cide | chuckg: 129 |
| 00:14.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:14.43 | Shirik | I was going to go to the customer service forums and laugh at all the morons whining |
| 00:14.50 | Shirik | but the forums don't like me anymore |
| 00:14.53 | Shirik | so I'm going to sleep |
| 00:14.57 | Shirik|zZz | night all |
| 00:14.58 | Kaydeethree | my account's invalid. bleh |
| 00:15.00 | Kaydeethree | oyasumi |
| 00:15.03 | Xuerian | >>> "Weeeee" |
| 00:15.03 | Cide | Xuerian: "Weeeee" |
| 00:15.51 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 129; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID, 128) + (chatFrameID * 128)) |
| 00:15.51 | Cide | chuckg: 129 |
| 00:16.13 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 129; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID, 128) + ((chatFrameID - 1) * 128)) |
| 00:16.13 | Cide | chuckg: 1 |
| 00:17.33 | Corrodias | this is a magnificent song: Bread - If |
| 00:20.10 | Corrodias | my realm's supposedly online, at least. that's a good sign. |
| 00:20.40 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 128; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID - 1, 128) + (1 + ((chatFrameID - 1) * 128))) |
| 00:20.41 | Cide | chuckg: 128 |
| 00:20.45 | Xuerian | auth server is playing hard to get now. |
| 00:20.47 | chuckg | >>> messageID = 256; bufferSize = 7*128; chatFrameID = 1; print(math.fmod(messageID - 1, 128) + (1 + ((chatFrameID - 1) * 128))) |
| 00:20.48 | Cide | chuckg: 128 |
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| 00:23.51 | trik | what is up with blizzard? |
| 00:24.13 | Kaydeethree | ? it's a patch day. it's always like this |
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| 00:25.02 | Corrodias | i must find the new faction guides i saw... |
| 00:26.13 | Kaydeethree | or not. wowwiki's down. /tabs channels |
| 00:26.17 | Zxcvb | how much does 2.1 affect addons? |
| 00:26.20 | Corrodias | not for me |
| 00:26.32 | Corrodias | 2.1 has... a few effects that have required updates to some addons |
| 00:26.54 | Zxcvb | any idea if metamap, tinypad, or questhistory will be affected? |
| 00:26.55 | Mike-N-Go | chuckg: What are you trying to find? |
| 00:27.04 | Corrodias | "...from within function "SiteStatsUpdate::doUpdate". MySQL returned error "1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (localhost)"." |
| 00:27.07 | Corrodias | maybe it -is- down for me |
| 00:27.16 | chuckg | I keep a history of each chatFrame's text so I can use it to do a copy and paste module in my chat addon. |
| 00:27.30 | chuckg | So I use one flat array to store all the farmes. |
| 00:27.47 | chuckg | But the trick is to get them to store in 1-128, 129-256, 256-384, etc. |
| 00:27.48 | Mike-N-Go | Zxcvb: Everything that has not been updated to Table of Contents version 20100 is most likely broken. |
| 00:27.55 | chuckg | I'd just done the calc wrong. |
| 00:28.58 | Mike-N-Go | Interesting, chuckg. |
| 00:29.11 | chuckg | Here, take a look if you want: |
| 00:29.22 | chuckg | Doc: http://barn.chuckg.org/wiki/show/mumble |
| 00:29.30 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, Authenticating, my old nemesis |
| 00:29.38 | chuckg | And the code: http://svn.chuckg.org/trunk/mumble/copypaste.lua |
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| 00:30.25 | Corrodias | i'd love to see the netherwing guide, but i can't load the netherwing page :) |
| 00:30.27 | Skosiris | Hey, what would be the new TOC version for 2.1 add-ons? |
| 00:30.33 | Zxcvb | can't even authenticate |
| 00:30.33 | Bleeter | 20100 |
| 00:30.38 | Bleeter | as says /topic |
| 00:30.42 | Mike-N-Go | Skosiris: RTFPN please |
| 00:31.05 | Zxcvb | Mike-N-Go: but updating the toc won't fix anything, I assume |
| 00:31.12 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 00:31.18 | Kaydeethree | the toc isn't magic |
| 00:31.41 | zenzelezz | it will "fix" the out of date flag |
| 00:31.42 | Mike-N-Go | ~RTFPN |
| 00:31.54 | purl | well, rtfpn is read the fluffy patch notes |
| 00:31.54 | Kaydeethree | it'd be nice if the fools who keep posting requests for automatic toc-changer programs would get that |
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| 00:31.54 | Bleeter | yeah, I can change IE's title bar to read Firefox, but it won't automatically be firefox for me |
| 00:32.12 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/smoker_stoned.jpg |
| 00:32.27 | Zxcvb | Bleeter: you can change Firefox's identification to MSIE and it sometimes fixes things though |
| 00:33.01 | Bleeter | Zxcvb: yes, but it still won't run Windows Update for me ;) |
| 00:33.06 | Mike-N-Go | I have used Converse it, however, creats a hang when there are more then ~200 lines of text in one frame. |
| 00:33.18 | zenzelezz | Zxcvb: that's because the *websites* are stupid, not the browser |
| 00:34.59 | Corrodias | why can i see some wowwiki pages but others give me an error about SQL? >_> |
| 00:35.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | AHHHHHHHHH >:[ |
| 00:35.24 | Mike-N-Go | Zxcvb: I can tell you this: if the TOC is not 10200, it won't even load, however, if it is that, you may load it with errors. |
| 00:35.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna go insane if my server doesn't allow me to login on it >:[ |
| 00:36.07 | sysrage | heh i can't even get past the login servers now |
| 00:36.33 | batrick | authentication server not working? -_- |
| 00:36.50 | Corrodias | yeah, like your mom |
| 00:36.57 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, if the TOC is 10200 it won't load at all =) |
| 00:37.04 | batrick | hey hey my mom works hard so i can stay at home and play wow :( |
| 00:37.11 | trik | what's TOC? |
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| 00:37.20 | batrick | i actually work too tho : / |
| 00:37.21 | Neuro_Medivh | table of contents |
| 00:37.26 | Zxcvb | trik: the version of WoW the mod claims to be fore |
| 00:37.31 | Zxcvb | trik: for, that is |
| 00:37.42 | trik | wha |
| 00:38.05 | Corrodias | actually |
| 00:38.23 | Corrodias | the "toc" is the table of contents file |
| 00:38.24 | Zxcvb | trik: though that is just one part of the toc |
| 00:38.39 | Corrodias | the "interface" declaration inside is the version of wow it's designed for, supposedly |
| 00:41.10 | sysrage | yay blizz for keeping shit down just long enough for all the west coast people to get home from work so the auth servers are overloaded! |
| 00:42.08 | Bleeter | I'm sure they did it on purpose, and are sitting back sipping coke having a good laugh at us all |
| 00:42.12 | Bleeter | <sarcasm/> |
| 00:42.17 | sysrage | i would be |
| 00:43.59 | Corrodias | <PARTY TIME> |
| 00:44.40 | Corrodias | </PARTY TIME> |
| 00:44.58 | sysrage | that wasn't a very large block of party time |
| 00:45.06 | sysrage | i want my money back |
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| 00:50.42 | sysrage | http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8434/fravatarin3.gif |
| 00:55.44 | Shadowed | Anyone ever get a screen flicker when alt tabbing in and out of the game? |
| 00:58.34 | Legorol | So how's patch day treating everyone? |
| 00:59.00 | Shadowed | Tracking down non-backword compatabile changes that nothing was said about! |
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| 00:59.13 | TC-Working | i dunno, i havent played it yet :( |
| 01:00.32 | Garoun|Loupana | yes shadowed that happens to me sometimes |
| 01:00.49 | Shadowed | hrm |
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| 01:01.00 | Shadowed | Only happened after I updated graphics driver and I can't run the game inwindowed mode |
| 01:01.05 | Legorol | well, EU realms down, time for us to go boom as well :D |
| 01:01.16 | TC-Working | sysrage...needs to be bigger |
| 01:01.38 | Zxcvb | anyone have problems exiting the game? |
| 01:02.00 | sysrage | legorol: horrible |
| 01:02.03 | Kaydeethree | killall -9 WoW.exe |
| 01:02.07 | trik | anyone have connection problems to WOW? |
| 01:02.39 | sysrage | eveyrone is |
| 01:02.39 | TC-Working | i dont |
| 01:02.39 | Kaydeethree | trik; auth server's hammered, half of the realms are down |
| 01:02.39 | TC-Working | ofc i am not trying to connect atm |
| 01:02.39 | sysrage | there's only a handful of servers up |
| 01:02.39 | trik | =\ |
| 01:02.39 | Zxcvb | Kaydeethree: some people are having it even in windows, apparently |
| 01:02.39 | Kaydeethree | oh wow |
| 01:02.43 | Kaydeethree | I need to check that thread in bug reports |
| 01:02.47 | Kaydeethree | ...but the forums are donw |
| 01:02.57 | Corrodias | hahaha |
| 01:02.59 | Corrodias | i love patch day |
| 01:03.02 | TC-Working | Shadowed, what card? |
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| 01:03.12 | Shadowed | GeForce 7800 GTX |
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| 01:03.22 | TC-Working | ah, ok |
| 01:03.37 | Shadowed | only happened when I updated Drivers to latest |
| 01:03.56 | TC-Working | i wonder if the 7800 and 8800 or similar |
| 01:04.12 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: the 'other' alternative to kill, is launch it via a terminal and just ^C |
| 01:04.18 | TC-Working | i thought i was running the newest |
| 01:04.38 | Shadowed | Newest is like 94.18 |
| 01:04.54 | TC-Working | i have an 8800GTX |
| 01:04.58 | Cide | haha, has anyone done maulgar since the patch? |
| 01:05.01 | Cide | Shirik|zZz: ping? |
| 01:05.11 | TC-Working | looks like the 8800 drivers are fine |
| 01:05.19 | trik | what's new with maulgar? |
| 01:05.23 | Kaydeethree | ^C works too, but I start wow from a launcher shortcut |
| 01:05.25 | Corrodias | i'd like to see if there's a spike in web traffic today as wow-goers try to find something to do |
| 01:05.32 | Zxcvb | yeah, too bad you don't have kill (or multiple desktops) in windows |
| 01:05.36 | Cide | Krosh Firehand did not have a spell shield... |
| 01:05.43 | Kaydeethree | oh what the hell |
| 01:05.44 | Corrodias | we do have a kill command |
| 01:05.47 | Bleeter | Kaydeethree: yeah, I've got a launcher shortcut thing, but I'm launching in terminal |
| 01:05.51 | Kaydeethree | cide; ick!? |
| 01:05.54 | Corrodias | taskkill, isn't it? something like that |
| 01:06.03 | Cide | we uhm |
| 01:06.11 | Cide | got owned because our mage could not spell steal anything |
| 01:06.13 | Zxcvb | Corrodias: try using that blind because your screen is black |
| 01:06.18 | Cide | had another mage put on detect magic |
| 01:06.21 | Cide | he never cast anything |
| 01:06.29 | Kaydeethree | ya, that'd be tough. 9k every 4 seconds is a pain |
| 01:06.45 | Bleeter | fizzwidget++ for updating his mods! |
| 01:06.47 | Corrodias | easy, Zxcvb. set up a shortcut and give it a hotkey, easy to do in windows, although you'll need to know the name of the process you want to kill ahead of time. |
| 01:07.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love that goblin, bleeter |
| 01:07.15 | Corrodias | doing it -afterward- and you can't see anything? that could be a challenge |
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| 01:08.01 | Kaydeethree | meh. I added a "kill wow" shortcut on the desktop. probably ought to global keybind it or something |
| 01:08.01 | trik | auth server still down for anyone? |
| 01:08.03 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 01:08.19 | Corrodias | i always play in a window for a variety of reasons, instability being one of them |
| 01:08.22 | Mike-N-Go | I can auth., but can't load any realms. |
| 01:08.26 | Corrodias | what's this, i'm logging in? |
| 01:08.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll login to your face with my fist |
| 01:09.07 | Zxcvb | Corrodias: yeah, thank goodness for kde's multiple desktops |
| 01:09.07 | Kaydeethree | I've gotten past auth but gotten disconnect before getting to realm-select a few times |
| 01:09.08 | Corrodias | i got in! but i forgot to enable my addons first :( |
| 01:09.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | what a noob |
| 01:09.18 | Kaydeethree | kde... gnome... xfce 4... |
| 01:09.40 | Zxcvb | yeah, didn't twm get multiple desktops finally? |
| 01:09.44 | Bleeter | xfce++, gnome|kde-- |
| 01:10.27 | sysrage | corrodias: i hate that.. there's always a few poorly written addons that forget all their settings if you log in once without them enabled |
| 01:12.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, namely energywatch |
| 01:12.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again |
| 01:12.44 | Corrodias | ah crap, buggrabber is catching many errors per second |
| 01:12.49 | Corrodias | fubar plugins not loading |
| 01:13.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | energywatch hasn't had any updates other than compatibility updates in about 2 years |
| 01:13.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm scared to see what its code looks like after going through so many authors' hands |
| 01:14.00 | Corrodias | i'm concerned... i can't even tell what the errors were that were happening... or can i |
| 01:18.02 | cladhaire | god damnit, parsing wowhead takes SOOOO long. |
| 01:18.06 | cladhaire | and i haven't even parsed npc's yet. |
| 01:18.20 | cladhaire | well, it used to take less time, but i added pacing in so I don't bork their servers =( |
| 01:18.40 | Shadowed | Maybe it's because you're trying to request so much data on patch day? =p |
| 01:18.50 | cladhaire | PSH |
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| 01:21.25 | Corrodias | hard to tell what's going wrong when you can't see the errors, i daresay |
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| 01:21.47 | Bam__ | sad decision indeed :( |
| 01:21.59 | Corrodias | is there a quick way to delete all the embedded Ace libraries from addons' folders so i can use the ace package in just one place? |
| 01:22.43 | Kaydeethree | "rm -rf */libs/*"? |
| 01:22.44 | Bam__ | Corrodias: #wowace is probably a better channel to ask Ace questions :) |
| 01:22.58 | Corrodias | this is more about deleting files than about... ace |
| 01:23.09 | Corrodias | and no, Kaydeethree, because not all libraries are from ace :o |
| 01:23.10 | Bam__ | ok |
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| 01:23.44 | Bam__ | there isn't really one standard for where the libs are placed... so I can't think of a safe way |
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| 01:29.53 | Legorol | cladhaire: why exactly are you parsing wowhead :D |
| 01:30.29 | cladhaire | lightheaded |
| 01:30.38 | Legorol | ? |
| 01:30.53 | Legorol | btw, am I the only one finding the fact amusing that the patch is called Black Temple, yet out of the 9+ million subsribers, 0 of them will be able to actually get into it for the time being? |
| 01:31.19 | cladhaire | Legorol: My addon which displays comments from wowhead for every quest in the game? |
| 01:31.27 | Legorol | wow |
| 01:31.49 | Legorol | i vaguely remember you working on something like that, if it's operational, that sounds awesome |
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| 01:32.05 | cladhaire | yeah has been for quite some time |
| 01:32.20 | Bam__ | have you found a way to figure out which pages are updated? |
| 01:32.24 | Corrodias | 0? |
| 01:32.26 | Corrodias | more than 0 |
| 01:32.32 | cladhaire | Bam__: no, its easier to grab them all |
| 01:32.56 | Bam__ | erm yea... takes time though :P |
| 01:33.00 | Legorol | Corrodias: afaik Nihilum, who is currently the furthest along, isn't even into Hyjal yet |
| 01:33.10 | Legorol | or am i missing something? |
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| 01:33.41 | Gnarfoz | no one has slain kael'thas |
| 01:33.47 | Gnarfoz | so on one is in Hyjal, yet |
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| 01:33.56 | Legorol | that's what i thought |
| 01:34.02 | Legorol | is Hyjal a requirement for BT? |
| 01:34.05 | Gnarfoz | dunno about BT attunment, is that even known, yet? |
| 01:34.10 | Legorol | i have absolutely no idea how does one get attuned |
| 01:34.12 | Legorol | probably not |
| 01:34.24 | cladhaire | Legorol: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full7556.jpg |
| 01:34.40 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full7557.jpg is a closeup of the tooltip breakout for a comment |
| 01:34.42 | Legorol | but it would stand to reason that at least it's on par with Hyjal, if Hyjal isn't a prereq |
| 01:35.22 | Terrifion | cladhaire: what is your addon called? |
| 01:35.25 | sysrage | where the hell is zul'jin?!?! |
| 01:35.28 | cladhaire | Terrifion: LightHeaded |
| 01:35.44 | Legorol | cladhaire: that's awesome |
| 01:35.55 | Terrifion | thanks, really nice addon. |
| 01:35.59 | Legorol | unfortunately i am the worst possible user, as i'm a stubborn person who loves to solve quests by himself without outside help |
| 01:36.17 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:36.24 | Legorol | nevertheless, the idea is very cool and i know that the vast majority of players would love it |
| 01:36.55 | Legorol | there is only one quest i have ever looked up the full and complete set of locations i need to visit, and that's Sweet Amber, the level 40+ quest in Westfall ;-) |
| 01:37.15 | Bam__ | I have to admit I often only read the comments from users and not the quest text at all :D |
| 01:37.18 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:37.24 | Corrodias | my world map appears to be blank |
| 01:37.28 | Corrodias | cartographer, what have you done? noooo |
| 01:37.29 | cladhaire | Bam__: I read the quest every single time I do it initially |
| 01:37.32 | Legorol | i disapprove of people not reading quest text |
| 01:37.34 | cladhaire | on the fourth alt, i look at coords :P |
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| 01:37.50 | Bam__ | ok so I am lazier! :D |
| 01:37.51 | Legorol | in the vast majority of cases, the answers to players' questions are already in the quest text |
| 01:38.05 | Legorol | however, some quest texts are misleading |
| 01:38.11 | Legorol | then it's hear tearing time |
| 01:38.20 | cladhaire | s/hear/hair/ |
| 01:38.27 | Legorol | lol yeah |
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| 01:38.47 | Legorol | maybe because i actually do the quests myself and focus on them, i never had problem remembering where to go for a particular quest, when doing it with an alt |
| 01:38.49 | Terrifion | has anyone found a working version of moveanything? |
| 01:39.10 | Legorol | it's often the case that i forget *what* a quest is called, or *which quest* leads to a particular reward or location, but |
| 01:39.17 | Legorol | once i have the quest, i tend to remember what to do |
| 01:39.38 | Legorol | i am particularly bad with names, so i can never correlate quest name with quest content |
| 01:39.45 | Legorol | well never is exaggeration |
| 01:39.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the winner for strangest npc name in the game goes to: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22267 |
| 01:40.23 | Bam__ | lol |
| 01:41.54 | Gnarfoz | this year's children's week... thing? |
| 01:42.21 | Gnarfoz | can't think of anything else, but perhaps it's just trash anyway ;D |
| 01:43.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Is there a new Bongos? My pet bar . . . isn't. |
| 01:43.34 | Tuller | ZealotOnAStick: sortof, there's one on my google code but the menus are scary |
| 01:43.49 | ZealotOnAStick | there any known pet bar issues with the last released one? |
| 01:46.51 | Moskau | WTB 1x epic scene in any shakespeare play PST |
| 01:47.29 | ZealotOnAStick | clarify "scare" as per the menus. |
| 01:47.34 | ZealotOnAStick | err, scary. |
| 01:47.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | is anyone else having problems connecting to zirc? |
| 01:47.50 | ZealotOnAStick | If it's just scary menus, I might brave it for a working pet bar. I'd really prefer not having to switch to BT3 right now. |
| 01:48.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | irc://irc.zirc.org if you want to help me figure out if it's my DNS or something :O |
| 01:48.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait |
| 01:48.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's .com or something maybe lemme see |
| 01:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | duhh, .net |
| 01:49.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wrote my script wrong or something |
| 01:49.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that or they secretly got domain squatted |
| 01:50.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i think they did get domain squatted, cause their page is at .net but says .org |
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| 01:51.46 | Corrodias | my game is jerking every few seconds, like some addon is getting busy |
| 01:52.26 | sysrage | gettin jiggy wit it? |
| 01:52.31 | Corrodias | something like that |
| 01:52.35 | Corrodias | i don't think it's any other program |
| 01:52.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently chatthrottlelib was doing that |
| 01:52.39 | sysrage | least you can log in |
| 01:52.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you have it installed corr |
| 01:53.11 | Corrodias | i imagine i do |
| 01:53.18 | Corrodias | at -least- as a library somewhere. checking. |
| 01:54.13 | Corrodias | huh. file search claims that's not the case. |
| 01:55.54 | Corrodias | i think it's performancefu updating its list of how much memory addons are using... or that could be it, anyway |
| 01:56.00 | Corrodias | every pause coincides with a list update |
| 01:56.09 | Corrodias | when you have over 150 addons, i can see how that might take a moment |
| 01:56.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know what language, if any, the login music is being sung in? :O |
| 01:57.00 | sysrage | woo. i was able to log in for about 30 seconds |
| 01:57.06 | sysrage | now world server is down. YAY! |
| 01:57.38 | Bleeter | sysrage: oh good, for a moment there I thought my bank mule was totally borked (was in the process of login in and it's hung on the loader screen) |
| 01:58.32 | Kaso | I could have sworn i read about a cvar to set the jpg quality in 2.1, does anyone remeber that or am i dreaming |
| 01:59.32 | Gnarfoz | I certainly remember someone asking about one |
| 01:59.49 | Gnarfoz | I' rather switch it back to tga, tho |
| 02:00.06 | Kaso | i was thinking SET screenshotFormat "tga" might work |
| 02:00.06 | Corrodias | TGA FTW |
| 02:00.23 | Kaso | thats been a command for macs since 1.11 or something |
| 02:00.30 | Bleeter | Kaso: I thought that was pre 2.1, post 2.0.0 tho |
| 02:00.39 | Corrodias | it should, kaso, or so i'd think |
| 02:00.49 | Corrodias | /script SetCVar("screenshotformat", "tga") |
| 02:01.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah I knew it was valid for Macs |
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| 02:03.18 | Kaso | My theory as to why we've only just got jpg on PC is cos the patent on it ran out not so long ago, and before that blizzard were just too cheap to fork out for it |
| 02:03.37 | Kaso | macs got it cos osx comes with a cool graphics compression lib built in |
| 02:04.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Can the PCs do PNG yet? |
| 02:04.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I want to know |
| 02:04.31 | GeoMance` | Yes, PCs can. |
| 02:04.36 | Kaso | the patch notes dont mention that.. |
| 02:04.49 | GeoMance` | Or do you mean screen shots? >.> |
| 02:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Screenshots ;) |
| 02:05.00 | ScytheBlade1 | JPG or TGA, sure |
| 02:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | But I want my PNG! |
| 02:05.04 | Kaso | anyone can get online atm? |
| 02:05.09 | Kaso | try out the cvar |
| 02:05.21 | Gnarfoz | <Kaso> macs got it cos osx comes with a cool graphics compression lib built in <- unlikely... the Intel JPG library has been sitting in wow's main dir, like, forever |
| 02:05.26 | Arrowmaster | NOOOOO!!!! |
| 02:05.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed it has been |
| 02:05.32 | Arrowmaster | doublewide wasnt updated |
| 02:06.01 | Corrodias | where is this option to dismount when you try to cast a spell? |
| 02:06.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 02:06.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I set it to "PNG" and "png" |
| 02:06.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Both result in a .jpg |
| 02:06.21 | Kaso | tried tga? |
| 02:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Gives me a .tga |
| 02:07.01 | Kaso | hmm, do they need to pay licence on stuff that they have code for but dont actually implement i wonder gnarfoz, perhaps they were waiting for the patent to tick off so they can "turn on" the jpg code |
| 02:07.10 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 02:07.13 | Gnarfoz | good question |
| 02:07.52 | Kaso | im convinced that im right about the mac stuff though |
| 02:07.57 | Corrodias | can't wait for the raid to be over so i can turn on CPU profiling |
| 02:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | <Corrodias> can't wait for the raid to be over so i can turn on CPU profiling <-- not a line you hear every day |
| 02:08.40 | Kaso | ScytheBlade1, gogo test targa for me! |
| 02:08.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Kaso, I did, read up ;) |
| 02:08.56 | Kaso | oh |
| 02:09.01 | Kaso | cool sorry i suck at reading :> |
| 02:09.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe np |
| 02:09.24 | GeoMance` | Grrr. This is really starting to frustrate men. |
| 02:09.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do you have to wait for the raid to be over? |
| 02:09.48 | GeoMance` | me^ |
| 02:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Men? |
| 02:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i enabled it with performancefu :o |
| 02:10.16 | Corrodias | CAN'T TAKE the time to reload ui |
| 02:10.33 | GeoMance` | xD I'm tired. I can't get the scrollframe to scroll correctly. It scrolls down to the next to last update and stops there. |
| 02:10.50 | Corrodias | NOW i can |
| 02:12.02 | cladhaire | BULLSHIT |
| 02:12.10 | cladhaire | 150g to respec tailoring specialty |
| 02:12.13 | cladhaire | 20g to learn a new one. |
| 02:12.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Tuller: Grabbed 20.9 Bongos . . . I at least have a working pet bar now. Menus amused me. |
| 02:12.33 | Gnarfoz | do you have to re-do the quest, cladhaire? |
| 02:12.35 | Gnarfoz | if thereis one |
| 02:12.40 | cladhaire | no |
| 02:12.47 | cladhaire | but the quest was always "free" |
| 02:12.52 | Gnarfoz | hm ok |
| 02:13.04 | Tuller | ZealotOnAStick: mine have tabs, so its less scary |
| 02:13.10 | Gnarfoz | hm, sounds like I'll get elixir spec then and respec to transmute, to skip the primal might cost |
| 02:13.12 | Gnarfoz | if that works :D |
| 02:14.15 | cladhaire | respec costs 170g |
| 02:14.32 | DT__ | Still cheaper than 4 primal mights |
| 02:14.53 | cladhaire | heh |
| 02:15.12 | ZealotOnAStick | broke cycircled. *disables* Oh well. |
| 02:15.13 | Corrodias | running with cpu profiling enabled is a huge performance drag |
| 02:15.15 | Corrodias | who knew? |
| 02:15.32 | DT__ | Slouken said it'd have a large overhead |
| 02:15.36 | DT__ | That's why it's disabled by default |
| 02:15.42 | Bleeter | well, there goes my morning fun. I just got told to turn down the Tool :( |
| 02:20.00 | Corrodias | time to close emule and see if my performance improves slightly |
| 02:20.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | stop downloading dolphin porn for 10 seconds to play wow, gosh |
| 02:21.21 | Corrodias | funny you should say that... but i wasn't downloading dolphin porn. no. |
| 02:21.29 | sysrage | wooo. PerformanceFu is sweet now |
| 02:22.38 | Corrodias | having it profile memory usage just drags my game performance down too much, because i have over 150 addons and it takes too long to scan them |
| 02:23.41 | Corrodias | i think abinfo is my mighest CPU user, though |
| 02:23.44 | sysrage | wow. oRA2 seems to be borked |
| 02:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | working for me |
| 02:25.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is different |
| 02:25.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was broken in 2.0.12 |
| 02:26.07 | sysrage | hmm. is it no longer multiple directories? |
| 02:26.11 | sysrage | no more .bat file |
| 02:26.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm....i dunno :O |
| 02:26.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just ran the ace updater :p |
| 02:26.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | you may wanna update your updater :O |
| 02:26.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you use it, that is |
| 02:26.50 | sysrage | i use WUU |
| 02:26.52 | Corrodias | i'm still using CTRA |
| 02:26.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 02:26.56 | Corrodias | although i haven't updated my CT mods yet |
| 02:27.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | wuu's broken for ace addons atm i think |
| 02:27.10 | sysrage | looks like he just moved the leader/optional/participant stuff inside the ora2 dir instead of being seperate addons |
| 02:27.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and some addon's giving me chatframe errors |
| 02:27.16 | sysrage | no it's not mr_rabies |
| 02:27.50 | sysrage | all my ace addons updated perfect except ora2.. but it was user error for that |
| 02:31.19 | sysrage | everything seems to be working well except my x-perl self frame isn't showing my portrait |
| 02:34.56 | GeoMance` | Is there a reason that a SetScript even being called would stop a scrollframe from updating right? |
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| 02:49.14 | sysrage | lol |
| 02:49.46 | sysrage | good thing blizz spent so much time workin the throttling stuff. i've only been logged in about 20 min and blocked 2 spams |
| 02:51.35 | ckknight | *thumbs up*, sysrage |
| 02:53.03 | Corrodias | NOW... why is my map blank? is cartographer goofy? |
| 02:53.11 | Corrodias | is it just becuase i have a couple of outdated modules i forgot i had? |
| 02:57.18 | GeoMance` | Bllleeeehhhh. |
| 02:57.55 | sysrage | x-perl taking forever to load portraits *cry* |
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| 02:58.41 | Zxcvb | is WoW usable yet? |
| 03:00.50 | Corrodias | yeah, we just had our karazhan raid |
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| 03:01.26 | Corrodias | gotta fix my cartographer or otherwise fix my map, anyway, though |
| 03:01.36 | Tuller | Bongos2 1.0: http://tullamods.googlecode.com/files/Bongos21.0.zip |
| 03:02.15 | Corrodias | i am unsuccessful... |
| 03:03.18 | Corrodias | my map remains blank! |
| 03:04.48 | GeoMance` | Ah, I'm having a problem with a buff looking like it's been cancelled right when I cast it. |
| 03:07.18 | Zxcvb | is spamsentry still useful? |
| 03:07.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have it installed |
| 03:07.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but....i'm not being spammed yet |
| 03:07.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | so we'll see how long it takes the farmers to circumvent this |
| 03:07.47 | Zxcvb | how do you tell? |
| 03:08.17 | Corrodias | the lack of spam is a clue |
| 03:09.16 | Zxcvb | Corrodias: but is that spamsentry or the new 2.1 fixes |
| 03:09.19 | sysrage | yes spamsentry still works |
| 03:10.24 | Zxcvb | yes, but is it redundant now |
| 03:10.45 | Corrodias | i just wish i knew why my map is blank. other people with cartographer have told me it's not the case for them. |
| 03:11.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's probably redundant for now |
| 03:11.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's hard to tell |
| 03:12.06 | Zxcvb | Mr_Rabies2: how do you tell if you are getting spammed if spamsentry hides it |
| 03:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | the spambot people may be having a hard time patching or something |
| 03:12.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a counter on fubar |
| 03:12.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno if it does or not with fubar off |
| 03:12.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i have a counter, and it's been at 0 for about an hour now |
| 03:12.55 | sysrage | no it's not redundant. i've already blocked 3 spams in the 30 min i've been online |
| 03:13.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | really? |
| 03:13.32 | Corrodias | actually... it looks like loading the shatt city map is what makes it go blank |
| 03:13.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow, what's your character's name? just for curiosity |
| 03:13.44 | Corrodias | if i exit the city and load the map, i can look around on it fine as long as i don't lick on shatt city. maybe other cities too. |
| 03:14.16 | zenzelezz | you should never lick the Shattrath map |
| 03:14.19 | ckknight | Corrodias: I fixed Cart; |
| 03:14.28 | ckknight | Corrodias: just update |
| 03:14.51 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: depends what the monitor's coated with, I guess |
| 03:14.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | ckknight, are you aware that some part of pitbull is conflicting with trinketmenu? :O |
| 03:14.57 | zenzelezz | Bleeter: better to save it for someone better |
| 03:14.58 | ckknight | nope. |
| 03:15.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not sure what, but with pitbull on my trinketmenu's empty |
| 03:15.05 | ckknight | I blame TrinketMenu |
| 03:15.11 | batrick | I wasted so much time looking for this... Frame:CreateTexture |
| 03:15.14 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.17 | ckknight | don't see what PitBull has to do with it |
| 03:15.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | nor do i |
| 03:15.20 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: do you have AutoBar? |
| 03:15.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 03:15.26 | ckknight | k |
| 03:15.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | toggling it off fixes it |
| 03:15.28 | ckknight | I dunno then |
| 03:16.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | Bad arg #1 to ipairs, table expected got nil.....attempt to index field timerpool, a nil value |
| 03:16.45 | Zxcvb | spamsentry only autodetects spam, right? |
| 03:16.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | same variable names or something? hell if i know |
| 03:17.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay...now i have TWO trinketmenus |
| 03:17.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's...odd |
| 03:17.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | two frames for it |
| 03:17.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | one's empty, one has the item icons, but no text |
| 03:17.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | what the hell, this is the weirdest error ever |
| 03:17.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was doing it pre 2.1 too |
| 03:20.53 | Shadowed | ugh |
| 03:20.59 | Shadowed | screen flashing when alt tabbing in and out is annoying |
| 03:24.44 | Corrodias | still getting an SQL error on wowwiki's netherwing page |
| 03:25.40 | Neuro_Medivh | weird, getting tainting errors from Atlasloot |
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| 03:26.30 | Dmon | ugh |
| 03:27.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | heheh all your nicks are taken? |
| 03:27.16 | NeedANick | yeah |
| 03:27.20 | Chemia | there |
| 03:27.21 | Chemia | that one works |
| 03:29.41 | Zxcvb | wish I discovered spamsentry before 2.1, I was getting 4 whispers in less than 30 minutes |
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| 03:34.38 | Bleeter | that's nothing, last weekend I went for an hour getting roughly one every 5 mins.. sometimes three or four within one minute, then a ten min gap. |
| 03:35.49 | Zxcvb | how does spamsentry work now that making a gm report is protected? |
| 03:35.56 | ckknight | no, not really |
| 03:36.22 | Zxcvb | I thought it was in 2.,1 |
| 03:36.28 | Zxcvb | 2.1 |
| 03:36.28 | Bleeter | ooh, Oceanic restarts again in a few hours |
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| 03:37.03 | Garoun|Loupana | doesn't look like thatfixed whatever bug was withNetherdrakes on the PTR |
| 03:37.11 | Garoun|Loupana | there are already 2 people on Moonrunner withthem |
| 03:37.23 | Bleeter | or, that could be tomorrow |
| 03:37.32 | Zxcvb | or is the only thing that is protected pressing the send button? |
| 03:37.37 | Bleeter | Blizz insist on telling Oceanics about stuff happening in Oceanic offpeak.. using PDT TZ |
| 03:39.08 | Corrodias | oh man, so many solo quests to do now... |
| 03:39.11 | Corrodias | i'm almost overwhelmed |
| 03:44.39 | sysrage | neat. chest stuff gets rolled on now |
| 03:46.43 | Legorol | omg, check this post out: |
| 03:46.51 | Legorol | why i don't mind for EU to get patched a day later than US |
| 03:46.52 | Legorol | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104507644&pageNo=2&sid=1#22 |
| 03:47.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | already fixed though :P |
| 03:47.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | my server didn't even come up until 10 est or so |
| 03:47.23 | Legorol | yup, but this is why i prefer US to get the patch a day ahead of us |
| 03:49.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | my server didn't come up for the first time until then, after the hotfix went out :p |
| 03:49.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was on super extended maintenance turbo edition third strike |
| 03:49.48 | zenzelezz | downloading Kyodai mahjongg was the stupidest thing I've done in a while |
| 03:49.55 | zenzelezz | I spend hours playing that thing :-| |
| 03:49.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know |
| 03:50.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i played shenmue all the way through |
| 03:50.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and never figured out mahjonng |
| 03:50.44 | zenzelezz | I learned it back on my Amiga for some reason |
| 03:53.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just massaged out a stuck pixel |
| 03:53.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | was sitting in the middle of my editbox in mirc |
| 03:54.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn lcd screens |
| 03:54.23 | Chemia | why is nobody doing the ogri'la quests |
| 03:54.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | think of it this way |
| 03:55.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least you're not getting ganked all over Blade's Edge yet |
| 03:55.25 | Chemia | the alliance are doing the quests |
| 03:55.28 | zenzelezz | but when you do you'll respawn closer! |
| 03:55.35 | Chemia | horde aren't |
| 03:55.49 | Chemia | I have 2 rogues and a pally |
| 03:55.53 | Chemia | pally is prot specced |
| 03:55.53 | Chemia | gg |
| 03:56.01 | Chemia | wtb healer |
| 03:56.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's because cho'gall is deader than orson welles :O |
| 03:57.05 | Chemia | no kidding |
| 03:57.09 | Chemia | I need to transfer off |
| 03:57.10 | Chemia | ugh |
| 03:57.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could always transfer to mal'goonis |
| 03:57.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | and join goon squad |
| 03:57.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have ~1100 people in the guild |
| 03:58.15 | subbawt | when they kick people from their guild, the member count increases |
| 03:58.45 | Chemia | like a hydra.. |
| 03:58.53 | Chemia | every member they kick, two spawn in their place |
| 04:04.51 | zenzelezz | reminds me a little of when I was in Rogues Take Zero Skill |
| 04:04.57 | zenzelezz | think everyone could /ginvite |
| 04:05.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | the difference is goon squad is awesome :p |
| 04:05.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | they actively go places together and stuff |
| 04:05.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | take the goonboat places |
| 04:05.26 | zenzelezz | all 1100? |
| 04:05.42 | zenzelezz | I know I've heard of the goon squad, but can't seem to place it |
| 04:07.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=5jq2Pz_KNZc |
| 04:07.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | well no, not all 1100 |
| 04:07.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's some rather harsh language in that video, so it may be semi nsfw :O |
| 04:08.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all text though |
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| 04:12.51 | Chemia | still havn't found a healer |
| 04:12.59 | Bleeter | man, I can't believe how people don't see that supplying PDT time/date info that pertain specifically to Oceanic realms is annoying and generates useless 'net traffic on trade etc. with people asking 'so what time and day is (insert PDT info here)' |
| 04:14.31 | zenzelezz | oh, right, SomethingAwful... yeah, I'm not a fan of those |
| 04:14.31 | Bleeter | I mean, I can get why they use PDT for all US references, as (a) Blizz live in PDT and (b) US citizens live with the specific offsets daily |
| 04:14.42 | Bleeter | and when it's a general outage/patch, may as well just keep all references PDT |
| 04:15.10 | Bleeter | but when they're addressing Oceanics, making the vast majority of them jump through hoops (either mentally, or via google and a time and date clock) is just.. well, friggin rude |
| 04:15.39 | zenzelezz | I would agree |
| 04:15.50 | zenzelezz | thankfully EU don't get PDT |
| 04:16.18 | Bleeter | if you weren't EU, I'd ask you to add your comment to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105980854&sid=1 |
| 04:16.25 | Legorol | zenzelezz: you forget the time then that the EU forums were using PST/PDT clocks ;-) |
| 04:16.30 | zenzelezz | ... and by the light of the mooooon, he prays for their beauty not doooooom |
| 04:16.36 | zenzelezz | Legorol: I wasn't around for the first EU year |
| 04:16.48 | Legorol | this is when the new forums were launched |
| 04:16.56 | Legorol | for a few weeks the EU forums were PST as well |
| 04:16.58 | zenzelezz | I don't frequent the forums =D |
| 04:17.02 | Legorol | fair enough |
| 04:17.14 | zenzelezz | only check out our realm forum and occasionally drop by UI/raid |
| 04:17.26 | Legorol | and in the EU, at least we all can add a couple hours to Blizzard Paris Time to find our local time ;-) |
| 04:17.45 | Legorol | but the amount of arguments i had to make over what's the difference between CET and CEST, is just.. well.. |
| 04:17.47 | Bleeter | in Oceania, we have to frequently cross the date line |
| 04:17.56 | zenzelezz | I'm just relieved they use CET, not GMT |
| 04:18.04 | Legorol | most people are confused as hell when announcements are made relative to CEST |
| 04:18.08 | Legorol | i mean, |
| 04:18.14 | Legorol | they just happy to know it's Paris time |
| 04:18.25 | Legorol | but they don't know the difference between CET and CEST, and luckily don't need to know |
| 04:18.26 | Bleeter | CEST ain't Paris time |
| 04:18.29 | Legorol | yes it is |
| 04:18.39 | Legorol | CEST = Central European Summer Time |
| 04:18.40 | Bleeter | that's the TZ used near Uluru and stuff (Central AU) |
| 04:18.53 | Legorol | currently, EU forums are using CEST |
| 04:19.02 | Bleeter | well, it was back in the dark days before decent naming conventions for TZ's ;) |
| 04:19.09 | Legorol | hehe |
| 04:19.21 | zenzelezz | we just refer to it as "proper time" and "everywhere else" |
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| 04:19.31 | Legorol | anyhoo, I bet if I asked most EU people what the time in GMT is right now, they'd get it wrong and say 5am |
| 04:19.33 | Bleeter | two people fail on that thread I posted |
| 04:19.44 | Bleeter | (1) Someone said remove the hours, when in fact it's ADD |
| 04:19.53 | Legorol | Bleeter: what thread? |
| 04:19.58 | Bleeter | (2) Someone said use GMT as it's the worldwide standard, when it's in fact UTC |
| 04:20.00 | Legorol | ah the one above |
| 04:20.19 | Bleeter | which, I think, proves my point that some people have nfi about TZ's |
| 04:20.21 | zenzelezz | I've had lots of people (Americans) wonder if they were ahead or behind Oceania/Asia |
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| 04:20.33 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: behind, of course ;) |
| 04:20.43 | zenzelezz | I'm EU, I know such things |
| 04:21.24 | zenzelezz | strictly speaking I'm not EU, just European |
| 04:21.25 | Bleeter | yeah, well you're just not as behind as the americans ;) |
| 04:21.29 | Karrion | I tell americans that I'm from the future |
| 04:21.45 | Legorol | Bleeter: i'd correct some to most |
| 04:22.07 | Legorol | You know, I had to argue with Americans before that PST and PDT are not the same |
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| 04:22.31 | Bleeter | Legorol: indeed, which is my point entirely, 'cept some person on that thread's got a bee in their bonnet about me tarring all the Oceanic players with the same brush |
| 04:22.34 | Legorol | There was a (quite illustrious and well known) website that posted a contest, and the deadline was posted as xxx EST |
| 04:22.43 | Legorol | this was during the summer |
| 04:22.58 | Legorol | so i sent them an email asking for clarification, asking to make sure they really meant EST and not EDT |
| 04:23.17 | Legorol | from the reply I gathered they have absolutely no idea what the difference is and that they don't know |
| 04:24.10 | Legorol | upon further urging, they decided to repost the deadline expressed in GMT, so as to avoid confusion |
| 04:24.25 | Legorol | unfortunately, they beleived that GMT = Time in UK, so they got it an hour wrong >.< |
| 04:24.48 | Legorol | at this point I gave up |
| 04:24.51 | zenzelezz | I've seen a few GMT/BST arguments |
| 04:25.01 | Legorol | it's always priceless |
| 04:25.16 | Karrion | UTC > all |
| 04:25.20 | Legorol | I agree |
| 04:25.44 | Legorol | I just don't know how Universal Coordinated Time becomes abbreviated as UTC instead of UCT |
| 04:25.54 | Karrion | blame the french |
| 04:26.06 | Bleeter | aye |
| 04:26.08 | Legorol | sorry i got it wrong, it's "Coordinated Universal Time" according to wikipedia |
| 04:26.13 | zenzelezz | the U would be at the end if it was the French |
| 04:26.24 | Legorol | then i can understand it a bit more, UTC is just a cycle in that case |
| 04:26.43 | Legorol | oh, i like the idea of blaming the French |
| 04:27.09 | Karrion | it's a compromise between the english CUT and the french TUC according to wikipedia |
| 04:27.16 | zenzelezz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utc has an interesting explanation |
| 04:27.27 | Legorol | yeah i am just reading it, it's funny |
| 04:27.46 | Bleeter | "kill -9 `ps -ef|grep WoW.exe|grep -v grep|awk '{print $2}'`" FTW! |
| 04:28.22 | Bleeter | [largely platform neutral, although iirc BSD variants have different switches for the ps(1)] |
| 04:28.26 | Legorol | I love this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Mean_Time |
| 04:28.31 | Legorol | it has a diagram of all European time zones |
| 04:28.40 | Legorol | and it lists CEST, woot! |
| 04:28.48 | Karrion | Bleeter: killall -9 WoW.exe? |
| 04:28.53 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: it's how one needs to exit WoW in *nix these days (ie, it hangs and one has to terminate with extreme prejudice) |
| 04:29.08 | Karrion | or does killall not exist on all platforms? |
| 04:29.09 | Bleeter | Karrion: not all systems that can run Wine are guaranteed to have killall |
| 04:29.34 | zenzelezz | I'm familiar with kill -9, but doing the `' stuff always confuses me (at least those worth doing) |
| 04:29.41 | Bleeter | as much as not all systems are capable of ignoring grep appearing in it's own match |
| 04:29.58 | Karrion | and yeah, *BSD needs axu instead of -ef |
| 04:30.02 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: the stuff in the backticks is executed first, then passed outside |
| 04:30.25 | zenzelezz | I know; what I meant is people tend to put advanced stuff in there :-p |
| 04:30.43 | Bleeter | so, what's happening there is looking for WoW.exe in the process list, then ignoring the search through the list itself, then getting the ... |
| 04:30.51 | Bleeter | gah, and here I was gunna explain it all :P |
| 04:31.15 | zenzelezz | awk is where I fell off this one, but I've seen some horrible ones on Linux forums |
| 04:31.29 | Bleeter | Karrion: yeah, thought it'd be aux or similar on *BSD, I didn't have the need to detect for that |
| 04:31.52 | Bleeter | zenzelezz: I probably could've used cut(1) instead of awk(1) for that case |
| 04:31.59 | Bleeter | old force of habit thing |
| 04:32.09 | zenzelezz | would still have lost me =) |
| 04:32.24 | Bleeter | all it does is print the second field |
| 04:32.38 | Bleeter | which, from the output of the ps(1), is the process ID |
| 04:32.49 | Legorol | except if ou have multiple lines, because then you are screwed? |
| 04:32.51 | zenzelezz | my command-line use is not infrequent, but not advanced |
| 04:33.14 | Bleeter | Legorol: yeah, if I wanted it clean, it'd no doubt be an entire small shell script |
| 04:33.18 | Legorol | actually, what does `..` return when the command results in multiple lines? |
| 04:33.39 | Legorol | Bleeter: just add head -1 or whatever in the pipe (i forget the exact command) |
| 04:33.50 | Karrion | Legorol: joins the lines with a space iirc |
| 04:34.45 | Legorol | Amusing post I just read on EU forum: |
| 04:34.58 | Legorol | earlier tonight, someone has downloaded and applied the leaked EU patch, then tried to log in |
| 04:35.09 | Legorol | he was mystifed why he got "unable to validate game version" message |
| 04:35.29 | zenzelezz | leaked patch? |
| 04:35.46 | Legorol | yup, EU patch has been available for download from various sites since tuesday afternoon/evening |
| 04:36.00 | zenzelezz | didn't know that |
| 04:36.16 | zenzelezz | got mine from the torrent yesterday, ought to be genuine at least |
| 04:36.16 | Legorol | apparently it isn't so much as leaked as forcefully obtained |
| 04:36.39 | Legorol | people scan Blizz's patch servers and when they see the patch on it, they download it, even though the game itself isnt' offering it yet |
| 04:36.49 | Legorol | what torrent? |
| 04:36.58 | Legorol | the game itself isn't offering the downloader yet |
| 04:37.03 | zenzelezz | background downloader's |
| 04:37.09 | Legorol | O.o |
| 04:37.17 | Legorol | are you talking about partial-1 and partial-2? |
| 04:37.34 | zenzelezz | they're part of the patch, in my opinion anyway |
| 04:37.38 | Legorol | yeah they are |
| 04:37.39 | zenzelezz | but I see what you mean then |
| 04:37.41 | Legorol | those are genuine |
| 04:37.49 | Legorol | but there is a wow-final.mpq, as always |
| 04:37.57 | Legorol | which the background downloader isn't fetching |
| 04:38.24 | zenzelezz | seems to be now |
| 04:38.43 | zenzelezz | mine started straight from the launcher |
| 04:38.48 | zenzelezz | didn't even ask me |
| 04:38.49 | Legorol | yup, same here |
| 04:38.52 | Legorol | wasn't the case an hour ago |
| 04:39.00 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 04:39.23 | Legorol | and it's not the background downloader |
| 04:39.31 | Legorol | but this is curious, this is new that the launcher directly gets a patch |
| 04:39.39 | Legorol | i nkow they fiddled with the launcher, but this is cool |
| 04:39.47 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 04:39.55 | Legorol | yup, WoW-2.0.12.6546-to-2.1.0.6692-enGB-downloader.exe just appeared |
| 04:40.06 | Legorol | the launcher must have fetched it |
| 04:40.37 | zenzelezz | patching now :-o |
| 04:40.51 | Legorol | i will be in 2 minutes, woot |
| 04:40.54 | zenzelezz | Illidan was so wrong, I will be prepared |
| 04:41.06 | Legorol | lol |
| 04:41.12 | Legorol | the final part is only 8 Mb, yay |
| 04:41.26 | Legorol | oh i am so going to patch you, baby! |
| 04:41.51 | Legorol | btw, you know that in the EU we get much larger patches than US, due to it containing all localization info for english, german and french? |
| 04:42.03 | zenzelezz | so I've heard |
| 04:42.06 | Legorol | wasted bandwidth :/ |
| 04:42.12 | Legorol | but actually the reason is the ELPs |
| 04:42.21 | Legorol | if you have all three installed, the patcher needs to be able to patch all three |
| 04:42.22 | Bleeter | oh, and the other thing |
| 04:42.31 | Bleeter | this 'during off peak oceanic restarts' |
| 04:42.35 | zenzelezz | somewhat, but I've never given it much thought, bandwidth isn't too much of a problem anymore |
| 04:42.38 | Bleeter | is at 4pm on a thursday afternoon |
| 04:42.41 | zenzelezz | at least not just a few extra meabytes |
| 04:43.00 | Karrion | wow, that's off peak |
| 04:43.02 | Legorol | go patch go, 57% |
| 04:43.06 | Bleeter | which, from direct experience, is when all the schoolkids login... whilst getting rid of them for a little is good |
| 04:43.12 | Bleeter | I totally fail to see how it's off-peak |
| 04:43.15 | Legorol | lol |
| 04:43.31 | Legorol | i'm undecided yet whether i'm actually looking forward to this patch or not |
| 04:43.41 | Legorol | it's bringing new solo content, and i haven't even finished exploring all of Outland |
| 04:44.01 | Legorol | but the fact that as a Gnome I won't have to swim in Black Morass anymore is great |
| 04:44.07 | Garoun|Loupana | happy druid |
| 04:44.15 | Legorol | are you getting buffed or nerfed? |
| 04:44.20 | Garoun|Loupana | can go straight into forms from mount now withoutthat stupid double click |
| 04:44.38 | Legorol | unfortunately for me, the devastate-buff-that-never-was is in this patch |
| 04:44.52 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 04:44.53 | Garoun|Loupana | I like the charge ignores slow effects |
| 04:44.59 | Legorol | yeah that's great |
| 04:45.13 | Legorol | zenzelezz: early in patch 2.1, devastate received a buff |
| 04:45.16 | zenzelezz | I don't really care about charge, but intercept/intervene is good |
| 04:45.20 | Legorol | it would've actually made prot warriors able to grind somewhat |
| 04:45.21 | Garoun|Loupana | but they still haven't fixed the charge and stop short or chare and go 10 feet past your target :P |
| 04:45.29 | Legorol | but during PTR it was found to be too powerful, so they reverted it |
| 04:45.33 | zenzelezz | Legorol: ah, would've been nice :-| |
| 04:45.35 | Legorol | in the end it staid as it is |
| 04:45.40 | zenzelezz | 100%, I win |
| 04:45.43 | Bleeter | Garoun|Loupana: and I bet they still haven't fixed places like Freewind post 'must be outside to be in travel form' crap |
| 04:45.44 | Legorol | 98% grrrrr |
| 04:45.47 | Legorol | 100 |
| 04:46.03 | Legorol | now i'll have to start updating addons :/ |
| 04:46.11 | Legorol | i think i will first see what broke |
| 04:46.12 | Garoun|Loupana | doubt it |
| 04:46.30 | Garoun|Loupana | at least they fixed the going from mount to fly jumping off scryer teir |
| 04:46.37 | zenzelezz | Commanding Shout and Lifegiving Gem don't heal anymore... no more panic mode :-| |
| 04:47.18 | Garoun|Loupana | killed myself 3 times from that |
| 04:47.18 | Bleeter | bit that amazes me about it, I can use travel form in Undercity... last I looked, that was *far* from outside |
| 04:47.18 | zenzelezz | you can mount in Undercity |
| 04:47.18 | Corrodias | undercity was changed in a patch to be "outdoors" |
| 04:47.18 | Garoun|Loupana | it's just a nomount brush most likely in the wrong spot |
| 04:47.18 | Corrodias | because nobody wanted to go to undercity |
| 04:47.24 | Corrodias | it was "slow ass". |
| 04:47.43 | Bleeter | standing on the platform @ freewind post is 'inside' |
| 04:47.50 | Bleeter | platform for the lifts |
| 04:47.54 | zenzelezz | Legorol: I find the Revenge damage boost interesting at least; considering it's always up and costs about 2 rage |
| 04:47.54 | Corrodias | now if only they'd do the same for the huts in thunder bluff that connect the plateaus... |
| 04:48.01 | Bleeter | them too |
| 04:48.08 | Legorol | zenzelezz: indeed |
| 04:48.14 | Legorol | i think i might actually start using it now |
| 04:48.27 | zenzelezz | you didn't already? |
| 04:48.33 | Legorol | my biggest problem with revenge used to be that it's a wasted GCD and i can generate enough threat without |
| 04:48.36 | Bleeter | roofless buildings that have had most of their walls blown up, also = 'inside' |
| 04:48.37 | zenzelezz | it's good threat at no cost |
| 04:48.39 | Legorol | i use it occasionally at the start |
| 04:48.45 | Legorol | it does have a cost, GCD |
| 04:48.49 | Legorol | that's a very important cost |
| 04:49.06 | Legorol | in our guild, people are trigger happy |
| 04:49.16 | Legorol | so our tanks have to train themselves to be very quick at the start |
| 04:49.19 | subbawt | it's a pretty low priority in a tank's rotation, but it's still pretty damn good |
| 04:49.32 | zenzelezz | well, I spam it, with some reservations for other abilities |
| 04:49.35 | Legorol | you have to get a lot of things in: shield slam, demo shout, thunder clap, a sunder, second shield slam |
| 04:49.52 | subbawt | have someone else do demo shout and tclap :p |
| 04:49.55 | subbawt | and sunders |
| 04:50.00 | Legorol | when i have imp. tc? nevah! :D |
| 04:50.03 | Legorol | but yeah we do do that |
| 04:50.07 | zenzelezz | I tend to spam all of Revenge/Shield Slam/Devastate, and throw in Heroic Strikes if I have excess rage |
| 04:50.08 | Mike-N-Go | Wow, the quest [60P] Hellfire Fortifications gives 1G at level 70 =D |
| 04:50.09 | Legorol | but then the MT just has more time for sunders |
| 04:50.31 | Legorol | i used to consider revenge a waste of GCD, unless i'm in a 5-man with pyro-ing mages |
| 04:50.37 | Legorol | then it's a must to keep aggro |
| 04:50.49 | Legorol | Mike-N-Go: woot |
| 04:51.04 | Legorol | but, now that it will actually do damage as well, i think i will revenge more |
| 04:51.15 | zenzelezz | I wonder how much extra parry I will have when I log in |
| 04:51.31 | Legorol | that's a good question, but since i haven't spent any rating points in it, i doubt mine will rise |
| 04:51.49 | Mike-N-Go | An increase of 66% monies. |
| 04:51.51 | zenzelezz | I don't have many, only a few |
| 04:52.35 | Legorol | so the buff to devastate that never was is that it was going to strike for 50% of *both* weapons' damage if you are dualwielding |
| 04:52.35 | Legorol | but this made dualwielding prot. warriors in dps gear generate insane damage |
| 04:52.35 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 04:52.37 | Legorol | it's a real shame, it was fun on the PTR |
| 04:52.45 | Legorol | i actually felt like i am doing damage |
| 04:52.49 | Mike-N-Go | Wait, 300% more, lol. |
| 04:53.49 | Legorol | zenzelezz: if you consider that with focused rage devastate is a 12 rage instant ability that, unlike Heroic Strike, doesn't consume your melee attack so in fact it costs less rage, |
| 04:53.49 | sysrage | so the throttling stuff didn't help with spam, but it makes all the tradeskill mods kick you out |
| 04:53.54 | sysrage | yay |
| 04:54.01 | Legorol | it was actually pretty good if it struck for 50% of both weapons |
| 04:54.12 | zenzelezz | Legorol: yeah, I can imagine |
| 04:54.36 | zenzelezz | I rarely use Heroic Strike anymore, except when I'm taking a ton of damage (and risk capping rage) |
| 04:54.38 | Legorol | already as it is, when i'm asked to dps, i go dual wield and spam devastate and can do ok |
| 04:55.05 | Legorol | when I'm not MT so that i can dps on trash, I often get above cat-form feral druids with that |
| 04:55.20 | zenzelezz | I suck at DPS |
| 04:55.30 | Legorol | i still use HS, it's actually quite important for quick threat generation at the pull |
| 04:55.44 | Legorol | as i mentioned, my guild is trigger happy, so we are trained in very fast threat generation ;-) |
| 04:55.51 | zenzelezz | whatever works for you :) |
| 04:56.03 | Legorol | i usually go: shield slam, activate HS and demo shout, activate HS and TC, sunder |
| 04:56.22 | Legorol | then 2nd shield slam |
| 04:56.31 | Legorol | this is enough to keep even POM+Pyro at bay ;-) |
| 04:57.07 | zenzelezz | I'm not really sure if my guild was bad at burst or not |
| 04:57.27 | Legorol | although if that pyro hits before the first shield slam, i'm screwed |
| 04:57.31 | Legorol | but then the mage deserves to die |
| 04:57.50 | zenzelezz | I just did Bloodrage, Shield Slam, combined Sunder Armor and Revenge and then rotated the big stuff |
| 04:58.11 | Legorol | yup, that's good too, whatever works for you |
| 04:58.14 | zenzelezz | guildie of mine always put it very eloquently |
| 04:58.18 | zenzelezz | you spank it, you tank it |
| 04:58.23 | Legorol | yeah |
| 04:58.31 | Legorol | wait a sec, didn't you say you are on Silvermoon too? |
| 04:58.34 | Legorol | or do i remmeber wrong |
| 04:58.38 | zenzelezz | I am |
| 04:58.43 | Legorol | woot! what guild? |
| 04:58.45 | zenzelezz | that's why I said "our realm forum" earlier |
| 04:58.54 | zenzelezz | I was in Surge until recently |
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| 04:59.03 | Legorol | until recently? |
| 04:59.06 | Legorol | awww |
| 04:59.09 | JunkHead-Work | Hello. |
| 04:59.12 | Legorol | hi |
| 04:59.24 | zenzelezz | currently unguilded, but thinking of asking another raid guild |
| 04:59.37 | zenzelezz | needed a break, and got on edge with a few Surgers |
| 04:59.58 | Legorol | it's a shame we aren't recruiting warriors :( |
| 05:00.23 | Legorol | however, if you have an alt that you think you might want to occasionally and casually raid with, we might be the place for you ;-) |
| 05:00.26 | zenzelezz | there's always some looking; just have to weed out the not so good ones |
| 05:00.43 | zenzelezz | some day I should get my hunter the last five levels |
| 05:01.01 | Legorol | we cater for those that "i happen to have a free evening this thursday, can i go to Karazhan?" |
| 05:01.58 | Legorol | this makes a lot of our raid groups fairly random, which is both good and bad :D |
| 05:02.07 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 05:02.22 | zenzelezz | at times it helps with that attitude |
| 05:02.44 | zenzelezz | still, I'm a raider, so I'm pretty sure I'll ask around |
| 05:03.00 | zenzelezz | but the whole run-a-hundred-heroics attunements annoy me |
| 05:06.05 | sysrage | after the heroic i just ran, it seems that'll be FAR less annoying zenz |
| 05:06.05 | Corrodias | when do the "daily" quests reset? |
| 05:06.05 | sysrage | SP is beyond easy now |
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| 05:06.06 | sysrage | just tore through it with not very good ppl |
| 05:06.06 | zenzelezz | sysrage: good to know |
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| 05:06.07 | zenzelezz | personally I blame Iriel |
| 05:06.07 | zenzelezz | oops |
| 05:06.07 | Iriel | Probably wise -- what did I do? |
| 05:06.19 | Legorol | you showed up! |
| 05:06.35 | Legorol | sysrage: what changed in SP? |
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| 05:06.52 | sysrage | defenders hit like little girls.. the bosses are all easier |
| 05:07.05 | Legorol | ah the defenders were nasty, that's good to know |
| 05:07.09 | Bleeter | heh, someone's hit the nail on the head in my General/Timezone thread |
| 05:07.19 | Legorol | on our first try with my guild, our lovely priest got one-shotted for 14k |
| 05:07.22 | Legorol | we laughed very hard |
| 05:07.37 | Bleeter | the login warning pane should utilise the local machine's TZ setting to display the maint/shutdown in the player's local timezone |
| 05:08.04 | Iriel | Bleeter: Then they'd get support calls from people whose clocks are set wrong |
| 05:08.07 | Legorol | but that assumes the user is able to maintain the time on their computer properly, the question is, do you trust the user? ;-) |
| 05:08.14 | Legorol | lol Iriel, GMTA |
| 05:08.30 | Iriel | Legorol: You can tell we've both had to support 'users' of one sort or another |
| 05:09.00 | zenzelezz | I got a bit put off from heroics... probably wasn't a good idea to try Steamvault as the first one |
| 05:09.04 | Legorol | plenty of PEBKAC experience here |
| 05:09.11 | Bleeter | Iriel: well, the way it is now, Blizz are putting up an 'offpeak selective Oceanic rolling restarts', and few have woken up to the fact that the claimed 'off-peak' is 4pm in the afternoon |
| 05:09.22 | Bleeter | Iriel: which, from playing on these realms, is peak login time |
| 05:09.23 | Legorol | zenzelezz: i've been really slow starting on heroics, i have just recently started to venture into them |
| 05:09.28 | Legorol | so for me they are still fun and challenging |
| 05:09.40 | Bleeter | so, I'd suggest someone needs a minor lart wrt TZ differences, and it ain't the players ;) |
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| 05:10.28 | Iriel | Bleeter: It'd be advisable for them to give times in more than one timezone in their message then |
| 05:10.58 | Bleeter | Iriel: yes, my original post was asking for when they address Oceanics direct, they use a common Oceanic TZ, eg, AU/NSW |
| 05:11.01 | Legorol | here we agreed the best thing would be UTC, then everyone equally would have to work it out in their local time zone |
| 05:11.13 | Iriel | I love UTC |
| 05:11.18 | Legorol | no discrimination in that case |
| 05:11.27 | Legorol | except maybe poor Brits who'd think that's their time |
| 05:11.28 | Bleeter | yeah, well other idiots got on this thread and started claiming GMT = UTC |
| 05:11.29 | Iriel | I have the outer ring on my watch set to it |
| 05:11.34 | Bleeter | I had to correct them on that |
| 05:11.36 | Legorol | Bleeter: woot! |
| 05:11.38 | Legorol | i couldn't wait |
| 05:11.45 | Iriel | It's close enough most of the time |
| 05:11.56 | Legorol | if by "close enough" you mean an hour different, then yeah ;-) |
| 05:11.59 | Bleeter | yeah, but when one's being trolled by people stating this... ;) |
| 05:12.09 | Legorol | hope you don't aim for your flights with the same approach :oO |
| 05:12.25 | Bleeter | the prime meridian difference is something like .3", or maybe even 3", too |
| 05:12.47 | Iriel | Legorol: What are you smoking? |
| 05:12.52 | Iriel | Legorol: GMT isn't an hour different from UTC |
| 05:12.58 | Bleeter | Legorol: and where can I get some? :P |
| 05:13.03 | Legorol | lol |
| 05:13.13 | Legorol | then i misunderstood, i thought you were answer my UTC vs. British time comment |
| 05:13.19 | Legorol | -ing |
| 05:13.39 | Iriel | Brits who dont know the difference between BST and GMT would be beyond help |
| 05:13.51 | Legorol | true |
| 05:14.05 | Legorol | but most other europeans don't know the difference between CET and CEST either |
| 05:14.18 | Legorol | i'm just so happy that the in-game clock is not local time |
| 05:14.29 | Legorol | at least there is one fixed reference point, "Game Time" |
| 05:14.29 | Bleeter | seriously, though, those running a machine these days which is connected to the net, and have ntp stuff diabled, deserve to not have a local TZ utilised in the login message pane ;) |
| 05:14.45 | Legorol | i don't trust no network time services! |
| 05:14.52 | Legorol | i set my computer by my grandpa's ol' clock |
| 05:15.01 | Bleeter | Legorol: I don't blame you, after all, you're behind the times from where I'm sitting :P |
| 05:15.10 | Legorol | lol |
| 05:15.18 | Legorol | You guys all know that puzzle? |
| 05:15.40 | Legorol | My grandfather clock is as tall as me, and it ticks once a second, so how tall am I? |
| 05:15.41 | Iriel | I dont believe I do, no |
| 05:16.17 | Bleeter | Legorol: what's the air pressure? |
| 05:16.32 | Bleeter | as, I believe, the speed of the sound of the tick reaching your ears is dependant on that |
| 05:16.33 | Legorol | Bleeter: 10 kPa |
| 05:16.43 | Iriel | Now bleeter is smoking |
| 05:16.44 | Legorol | for the sake of the puzzle |
| 05:16.46 | Bleeter | what material is the 'ticker' made from? |
| 05:16.59 | Legorol | tin-lead composite, in 45:55 ratio |
| 05:16.59 | zenzelezz | depleted uranium |
| 05:17.04 | Bleeter | manufacturer, make, model? |
| 05:17.09 | krka | you could just _look_ at the the person who asked that question |
| 05:17.15 | Legorol | sec, let me lift it and check the bottom :P] |
| 05:17.20 | Bleeter | Iriel: it's my 'standard' "avoid the question" ;) |
| 05:17.28 | Legorol | hey can someone give me a hand here? this clock is heavy |
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| 05:28.21 | Legorol | haha, i just watched this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-dj-FTWDjo |
| 05:28.25 | Legorol | yeah i know i'm slow, but it's great |
| 05:28.31 | Bleeter | does that help at all? |
| 05:28.35 | Legorol | yup, thanks |
| 05:28.55 | Bleeter | I don't hear it ticking, though... I think you were lying earlier |
| 05:29.16 | Bleeter | yup, definately not ticking |
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| 05:42.09 | Corrodias | when do these daily quests reset, do you know? |
| 05:44.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | never |
| 05:44.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably at like, 6 am or so server time |
| 05:44.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | whenever honor comes in |
| 05:46.26 | Corrodias | what's this, i can only do -one- of the daily quests for this faction? phht. |
| 05:47.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | "at war" *everything goes red and you regain conciousness on a pile of dead nether rays/ogres* |
| 05:48.37 | Corrodias | either they reset, or abandoning and retaking these has let me continue them after turning in the first one. o.o |
| 05:48.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn, i'm makin some nice cash off this quest |
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| 05:48.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~100g so far |
| 05:49.33 | Corrodias | but no, they can't have reset. he doesn't offer the one i already did. |
| 05:54.07 | Corrodias | i abandoned and retook this quest, and so far in 3 kills i've gotten one more drop of the quest item |
| 05:54.25 | Corrodias | but only one.. |
| 05:56.51 | Bleeter | Iriel: quick question, as I'm trying to debug an issue I'm seeing here with auctioneer |
| 05:57.14 | Corrodias | strange... i still haven't gotten more |
| 05:57.40 | Bleeter | Iriel: it'd appear that DoubleWide is causing a conflict with out BTMScanner, causing the frame to render wrong and our button to not appear in frame. Off the top of your head, are you expecting to update that mod for 2.1? |
| 05:58.03 | Iriel | Bleeter: Are you sure it's not coincidence over the name of a blizzard function with 'doublewide' in the name? |
| 05:58.35 | Bleeter | Bleeter: Disable doublewide, issue goes away, enable, issue returns |
| 05:58.50 | Iriel | That'd be a "yes" then 8-) |
| 05:58.58 | Bleeter | :P |
| 05:58.59 | Iriel | I'll dig more 8-) |
| 05:59.25 | Iriel | And yes, there's a 2.1 version coming |
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| 05:59.39 | Bleeter | rightio, thanks |
| 06:00.09 | Bleeter | I was holding back on giving my 'I'm happy' to an auc release 'coz I was trying to track this down. The button/layout was fine on some toons, not on others. ;) |
| 06:02.35 | Iriel | Bleeter: I still dont fully understand how it's conflicting |
| 06:03.03 | Bleeter | I can grab a screenie for you if you think that might, on the offchance, help |
| 06:03.23 | Iriel | Maybe grab the 2.1 doublewide first, I'll upload it |
| 06:03.33 | Bleeter | Iriel: I have no idea either, beyond 'if I turn it off, it goes away' ;) |
| 06:03.38 | Bleeter | sure thing |
| 06:04.04 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/DoubleWide-0.6-20100.zip |
| 06:06.38 | Bleeter | Iriel: got it, just checking on all my toons |
| 06:08.54 | JunkHead-Work | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Agamaggan&n=Niu |
| 06:08.56 | JunkHead-Work | Er? |
| 06:11.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 06:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Quit spreading that :P |
| 06:11.36 | zenzelezz | what about it? |
| 06:11.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Look at the mana |
| 06:13.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It's the flask |
| 06:13.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Supposedly giving +2000 mana |
| 06:13.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Instead it's giving +2000 int |
| 06:13.31 | Shadowed | Iriel: You don't know what uiType means in GetWorldStateUI I assume? :p |
| 06:13.39 | zenzelezz | hrm, somehow I made X-Chat (on Windows) not repaint all of the window correctly |
| 06:13.46 | Shadowed | ScytheBlade1: It's only for people who currently had a flask active when the server went down I heard, not for any newly created ones. |
| 06:14.06 | Iriel | Shadowed: No, but I haven't had a chance to look yet |
| 06:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I've heard that you can pick it up in Halaa |
| 06:14.11 | Shadowed | kk |
| 06:14.11 | Bleeter | Iriel: hmm, thanks for the update. Unfortunately, either it's not your mod or your fix didn't fix it for me. more testing. |
| 06:14.28 | Iriel | Bleeter: I'll be /VERY/ suprised if it is my AddOn |
| 06:14.50 | Iriel | Bleeter: Though amusingly my auctioneer install fails with a call to GetDoublewideFrame (or something similar) that has /nothing/ to do with my doublewide |
| 06:15.05 | subbawt | I have an addon question. Why does it take over a minute for my trade skills menu to open sometimes? |
| 06:15.09 | subbawt | same thing with the inspect frame |
| 06:15.14 | Bleeter | so would I... it was just the first one I hit during the half/half elimination that seemed to consistently bring back all the frame/button |
| 06:15.20 | Bleeter | Iriel: yeah, that's fixed in dev ;) |
| 06:15.30 | subbawt | i know my computer sucks, but a minute? -_- |
| 06:15.55 | Iriel | subbawt: Hm, sounds like a network problem perhaps? |
| 06:16.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, sleep. |
| 06:16.19 | subbawt | Iriel: Everything freezes up while it happens |
| 06:16.27 | subbawt | like i can't run while i wait for it to load |
| 06:16.44 | Iriel | Hm, freaky, does it happen with AddOns disabled? |
| 06:17.01 | subbawt | I tested it a long time ago, I don't remember though |
| 06:17.04 | subbawt | I assumed it was Skinner |
| 06:17.40 | Bleeter | Iriel: ok, so on the 5th toon, the problem re-appeared. Logged out, disabled doublewide, logged in, problem vanishes. logout, re-enable, login, problem re-appears. |
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| 06:17.50 | subbawt | It's not something that happens so often that I can definitively say it doesn't happen with X mod disabled |
| 06:17.52 | Bleeter | Interestingly, I just logged out and back in again, problem's vanished. |
| 06:18.04 | Iriel | I suspect your problem is related to you restarting |
| 06:18.10 | Bleeter | Iriel: I think you can probably safely ignore me now ;) |
| 06:18.16 | Iriel | I will 8-) |
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| 06:18.27 | Iriel | Bleeter: FWIW, Doublewide does almost nothing. |
| 06:18.38 | Bleeter | Not restarting, logging toons in and out. To restart, I have to "kill -9 WoW.exe" ;) |
| 06:18.40 | Iriel | Bleeter: And even less in 2.1 |
| 06:19.24 | Bleeter | Iriel: yeah, that's why my original question was phrased, well attempted to be phrased, as a dubious 'i think it may be, but nfi really' |
| 06:19.47 | Iriel | well, i'm glad you asked, i'd forgotten to switch it over to use the new layout attributes |
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| 06:22.56 | Bleeter | heh, I note you've updated your other mods too (well, the other ones of yours that I use) |
| 06:23.05 | Bleeter | so I best download them all ;) |
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| 06:38.25 | nymbia | Iriel: could you edit the 2.1 changes about '* For "item" buttons, name can be an item ID or item link.' to reflect that to use an itemid, you can't just pass the number? (see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105751019 ) |
| 06:44.22 | Corrodias | oh, cute bug |
| 06:44.29 | Corrodias | it removed my orc disguise, but not my drake mount |
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| 06:47.35 | Corrodias | so i'm riding the netherdrake around outside the area. whee. |
| 06:47.49 | zenzelezz | I want the EU servers back on just so I can stance-dance and look at my panic button switch texture |
| 06:48.03 | Shadowed | Is it me, or is the submit addon button on WoWI hidden with the lite skin |
| 06:50.45 | Corrodias | my video just started freaking out, polygons all over, then the game imagery froze |
| 06:51.51 | zenzelezz | the video card fan still running? |
| 06:52.02 | Corrodias | oh yeah, it's not over 70 C |
| 06:54.26 | Corrodias | but let me look in the side to be sure... |
| 06:54.26 | Corrodias | can't tell from here |
| 06:54.26 | zenzelezz | only asking because I've had that twice, with sort of icky results |
| 06:54.27 | Corrodias | hmm, the ground was not visible when i logged back in, and even a gxrestart didn't fix it |
| 06:54.28 | Corrodias | something weird -is- going on |
| 06:55.35 | zenzelezz | "Folding@Home GPU client application" o_O |
| 06:56.25 | Corrodias | my compter could use a good dusting out, but i don't think there's anything overheating in there. |
| 06:57.27 | Chemia | hmm |
| 06:57.34 | Chemia | the Ogri'la bombing missiosn are fun |
| 06:57.45 | Chemia | where you have to dodge the flak from the cannons @_@ |
| 06:59.35 | Corrodias | well, i think i need to reboot at the least |
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| 07:13.11 | Corrodias | well, the ground has reappeared |
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| 07:18.14 | Corrodias | i remember this happening before, actually. also in terokkar forest that time. |
| 07:18.25 | Corrodias | i am not the only one who experienced it, but it has been ages since it happened last. |
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| 07:20.06 | Sixen | hmph, what's the new Interface Version? |
| 07:20.37 | zenzelezz | tough to read the topic? |
| 07:20.49 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 07:21.01 | Sixen | It's past midnight, i'm dead tired. |
| 07:21.05 | Sixen | Didn't even notice it, :( |
| 07:22.05 | AnduinLothar | ckknight: is there a dubug for AceComm that can print the non-giberish text? |
| 07:22.29 | ckknight | there might be |
| 07:22.30 | Sixen | Where do you find the Int. Version again? |
| 07:22.34 | Sixen | Wasn't it in framexml.toc? |
| 07:22.35 | ckknight | not sure |
| 07:22.48 | ckknight | ask #wowace, maybe someone will know |
| 07:22.53 | Sixen | =[ |
| 07:23.02 | AnduinLothar | thought u wrote it |
| 07:23.15 | ckknight | yes, but not a debug system based around it. |
| 07:23.30 | AnduinLothar | so you didn't put one in the addon |
| 07:23.35 | ckknight | library |
| 07:23.38 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 07:23.39 | ckknight | no, I didn't |
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| 07:24.07 | AnduinLothar | any easy place to put a pritn statement? |
| 07:24.18 | ckknight | granted, if you register for a specific Comm, then everything is decrypted and deserialized properly for you |
| 07:24.45 | AnduinLothar | ok, but i need to tell from other people's msgs what addon it is they have that's spamming the comm |
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| 07:24.54 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:24.58 | ckknight | yea, that's a toughie |
| 07:25.04 | ckknight | since the prefixes are memoized |
| 07:25.06 | Bleeter | For those hardcore sports fans, Gamma release of Auctioneer 4.0.2 is in http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/ please test and provide feedback. At this stage, we'll probably release within 12 or so hours, unless something major is reported back to us. |
| 07:25.23 | ckknight | essentially 1-way encryption |
| 07:25.26 | ckknight | not 2-way |
| 07:25.42 | ckknight | unless you know the memoized prefix at the other end |
| 07:25.43 | AnduinLothar | but i can at least look at the text |
| 07:25.47 | ckknight | true |
| 07:25.57 | AnduinLothar | message = Decode(message) |
| 07:26.06 | ckknight | so if you follow the code from CHAT_MSG_ADDON, you should be able to figure it out |
| 07:27.40 | AnduinLothar | i take it it wont register the event if no addon is using it |
| 07:28.03 | AnduinLothar | oh i bet i know what it is |
| 07:28.11 | AnduinLothar | cartographer |
| 07:28.15 | AnduinLothar | guild map |
| 07:28.43 | ckknight | likely |
| 07:28.53 | ckknight | good way to test: |
| 07:29.00 | ckknight | get VersionChecker |
| 07:29.07 | ckknight | and then ping your guild for who has Cartographer |
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| 07:30.06 | AnduinLothar | it's annoying that there isn't an easy way to knwo what addon is causing it |
| 07:30.14 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 07:30.24 | ckknight | I haven't found that it's too crucial, personally |
| 07:30.42 | ckknight | and the memoization allows for smaller messages overall |
| 07:30.50 | AnduinLothar | not ont he msgs |
| 07:30.56 | AnduinLothar | jsut the headers |
| 07:31.23 | AnduinLothar | it's not hard to make a readable 10 letter header |
| 07:31.33 | AnduinLothar | that easily indicates what addon |
| 07:31.36 | ckknight | 3 bytes is enough for me to do my business |
| 07:32.12 | ckknight | that extra 7 bytes is unneeded, especially in a context where we need to have the fastest environment possible |
| 07:33.02 | AnduinLothar | that is only if you assume it's ok to spam the channel |
| 07:33.55 | ckknight | yea, I make sure that Cartographer throttles its messages based on the amount of guild members online |
| 07:34.02 | ckknight | more guild members = less frequency |
| 07:34.12 | AnduinLothar | you could easily have it request coords when someone views the map. even in a guild of 200 there's not always someone with their map open |
| 07:34.28 | ckknight | to such a point where the overall bytes/second is rather small |
| 07:34.41 | ckknight | hrm, good idea |
| 07:34.45 | ckknight | I'll think about doing that. |
| 07:35.21 | AnduinLothar | and that way you could also request by zone |
| 07:35.28 | ckknight | also true. |
| 07:35.54 | ckknight | alright, I'll get around to implementing that sometime in the next little while |
| 07:36.07 | AnduinLothar | those 2 things alone would drasticly cut down on spam unless you're reaiding |
| 07:36.16 | AnduinLothar | raiding* |
| 07:36.43 | AnduinLothar | in which case as soon as you get in the instance you dont need to send updates anyway |
| 07:37.32 | ckknight | well, it doesn't do that now anyway |
| 07:37.49 | ckknight | in instances = no messages sent, afaik |
| 07:38.20 | AnduinLothar | right, i'm just thinkign the only place a lot of people would be in the same zone would be for a meeting of some sort |
| 07:39.15 | ckknight | also, if you have, say, 50 people in one zone, the messages would be sent rather slowly, so that the overall bps stays relatively low/constant |
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| 07:46.04 | ckknight | while we're on the topic of mods, btw |
| 07:46.18 | ckknight | anyone know of something like SmartBuff that works in 2.1? |
| 07:46.27 | ckknight | I don't like having to remember to BoW myself |
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| 08:35.50 | abug | ello |
| 08:36.00 | abug | anyone else having trouble with SendAddonMessage in regards to whispers? |
| 08:36.04 | Shirik | nope |
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| 08:40.34 | abug | blah it was addon hooking sendaddonmessage |
| 08:40.39 | Shirik | GG! |
| 08:40.46 | abug | ya rly |
| 08:40.50 | Shirik | This is why |
| 08:40.52 | Shirik | whenever you do a hook |
| 08:41.22 | Shirik | PLEASE do it function(params, you, care, about, ...) --[[ your stuff]] function(params, you, care, about, ...) end |
| 08:41.24 | Shirik | with the ... in there |
| 08:41.36 | Shirik | so that other parameters are passed correctly if it changes |
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| 08:55.57 | Shadowed | So anyone have a SVN client suggestion for Windows XP? :p |
| 08:56.04 | Shadowed | for the trolls who are still awake (Shirik) |
| 08:56.13 | Shirik | TortoiseSVN |
| 08:56.42 | Shadowed | mmkay |
| 08:59.27 | nymbia | Cairenn: that was fast, get some sleep O.o |
| 08:59.40 | Shirik | ? |
| 08:59.52 | nymbia | Shirik: file update approval, heh |
| 08:59.59 | Shirik | a |
| 09:02.39 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: smartsvn |
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| 09:15.49 | Punkie` | Shadowed: If you are just updating your addons, download the binaries and make a bat with 'svn up *' in your addons dir ;) |
| 09:15.59 | Shadowed | Close |
| 09:16.16 | Shadowed | I'm getting svn setup to move all my addons to googlecode/wowinterface :p |
| 09:52.51 | Shirik | Cairenn are you here? |
| 09:53.52 | Shadowed | Submit an addon, wait 60 seconds, if it's approved she is |
| 09:54.00 | Shirik | well that's the thing >.> |
| 09:54.00 | krka | Shirik: yeah, i had that problem with DefendYourself too... it hooked MoveLeft without passing the time parameter |
| 09:54.02 | Shirik | I don't want it to be approved |
| 09:54.12 | krka | thus creating bugs for autotravel |
| 09:55.02 | Shirik | CT_UnitFrames has conflicts with RDX in 2.1 I'm told T_T |
| 09:55.05 | Shirik | wtb Cide... |
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| 09:58.47 | Shirik | have I mentioned |
| 09:58.47 | Shirik | ..... |
| 09:58.47 | Shirik | yeah ok |
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| 10:01.21 | Shirik | xkcd is confusing me this week |
| 10:01.21 | Shirik | this doesn't usually happen |
| 10:01.21 | Gnarfoz | thanks for the pointers yesterday, shirik, my addon works :) |
| 10:01.22 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: Glad to hear it :) |
| 10:01.22 | Shirik | Um... what did I tell you >< |
| 10:01.22 | Gnarfoz | can't remember specifics right now, either, it was that replacing string.format (or rather not doing it) stuff ^^ |
| 10:01.22 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 10:02.26 | Shirik | btw, I later hooked string.format correctly |
| 10:02.26 | Gnarfoz | works? |
| 10:02.26 | Shirik | local f = string.format; string.format = function(...) f(...) end |
| 10:02.27 | Shirik | oh hell no |
| 10:02.27 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 10:02.27 | Shirik | it dropped my FPS to about 2 |
| 10:02.27 | Shirik | but... no errors ^^; |
| 10:02.27 | Shirik | though I never went into combat |
| 10:02.27 | Shirik | I imagine going into combat might have broken some things |
| 10:02.27 | Gnarfoz | possibly |
| 10:02.39 | Gnarfoz | I'd still like to do what, IIRC foxlit, suggested, an issecurevariable scan |
| 10:02.39 | Shirik | ~message Cide I need your help on a CT/RDX conflict message me :) |
| 10:02.52 | Shirik | I wonder if I got that syntax right |
| 10:02.52 | Gnarfoz | but couldn't figure out how to |
| 10:03.23 | Gnarfoz | I know how to use issecurevariable, but not what to do with it to figure out if I maybe taint something I shouldn't |
| 10:03.31 | Shirik | it's botmai |
| 10:03.59 | Shirik | ~botmail for Cide: I need your help on a CT/RDX conflict; message me when you get back :) |
| 10:04.15 | Shirik | oh right |
| 10:04.23 | Shirik | so you wanted hooksecurefunc() and Frame:HookScript() |
| 10:05.00 | [Ammo] | hmm if I unpack a mixed table aka one that's filled with table.insert() and table[somekey] = blah which contents will I get? |
| 10:05.57 | Shirik | you get the numerical indices |
| 10:06.09 | Shirik | the hash table isn't unpacked |
| 10:06.32 | Shirik | concurrently, you will get the same number of return values as #t |
| 10:06.50 | Shirik | > t = {}; for i = 1, 4 do t[i] = i; end t["hello"] = "hello"; print(#t, unpack(t)) |
| 10:06.50 | Shirik | 4 1 2 3 4 |
| 10:07.02 | krka | 12:01:13 <Shirik> local f = string.format; string.format = function(...) f(...) end |
| 10:07.11 | krka | wouldn't string.format = function(...) |
| 10:07.18 | Shirik | wel |
| 10:07.20 | krka | return f(...) end |
| 10:07.22 | krka | be better= |
| 10:07.27 | Shirik | oops |
| 10:07.32 | Shirik | yeah |
| 10:07.41 | Shirik | well the point was just to taint string.format really |
| 10:07.48 | krka | i see |
| 10:08.00 | Shirik | but yeah, that should be return f(...) |
| 10:08.35 | [Ammo] | Shirik: ah cool |
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| 10:09.57 | Shirik | does anyone use CT_UnitFrames that I can poke for a second? |
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| 10:15.24 | zenzelezz | hrm, either checking for bad blocks on the swap partition takes forever, or something's not working right :-| |
| 10:15.45 | Shirik | checking for bad blocks almost always takes forever |
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| 10:16.08 | zenzelezz | that's a relief then... guess I should've read the whole message |
| 10:16.19 | zenzelezz | which said it most likely wasn't necessary |
| 10:16.20 | Shirik | Saeris: Can I ask you a question about your lootlink (got a sec?) |
| 10:16.25 | Chemia | sweet, friendly with ogri'la |
| 10:16.33 | zenzelezz | hm, think I'm thinking of formatting, which seems lightning fast |
| 10:17.35 | Saeris | Shirik: Ask away. |
| 10:17.40 | Legorol | morning all |
| 10:17.48 | Legorol | happy patch day! |
| 10:17.52 | Shirik | ok so you have it so that when someone whispers you with a >item or !item |
| 10:17.58 | Shirik | You respond to them automatically, right? |
| 10:18.11 | Saeris | right. |
| 10:18.29 | Shirik | Well the response isn't visible in the chat frame... I was hoping you could make it so that the incoming whisper isn't visible too? |
| 10:18.54 | Shirik | Because I keep my whispers in a separate pane, every time someone whispers me like that it starts flashing and I have to switch over to check it >< |
| 10:20.24 | Saeris | I can block the whispers from being shown, but the window might still flash. Not sure exactly how the chat code works in that respect. |
| 10:20.54 | Shirik | yeah neither do I |
| 10:21.01 | Shirik | well just throwing that out there, don't stress yourself over it |
| 10:21.14 | Shirik | Legorol: You're 24 hours behind :P |
| 10:21.51 | Legorol | no kidding |
| 10:21.56 | Saeris | Can anyone who isn't quite as horrible with secure templates as I am tell me why this code no longer works while in combat? |
| 10:21.57 | Saeris | http://wowi.pastey.net/38695 |
| 10:22.06 | Saeris | It was just fine until the patch. |
| 10:22.08 | Legorol | Shirik: then again i'm in EU |
| 10:22.10 | Shirik | what doesn't work? |
| 10:22.24 | Shirik | Legorol: Doesn't that mean you're more like 30 hours behind? :D |
| 10:22.44 | Saeris | It's code to make MultiBarBottomLeft change pages with the main action bar. But now, while in combat, the MultiBarBottomLeft buttons don't change. They remain on whatever page they were on. |
| 10:24.08 | Shirik | let me try to understand this |
| 10:24.11 | Shirik | that code will run exactly once |
| 10:24.18 | Shirik | removing itself from the script as soon as the first event occurs |
| 10:24.44 | Saeris | Yes. That's just the setup code. The secure templates handle the rest. |
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| 10:24.59 | Saeris | The point is, this worked fine until the patch. I'm not sure what changed that broke it. |
| 10:25.26 | Shirik | ah yeah I see, sorry |
| 10:25.31 | Shirik | didn't scroll up to see the registered event |
| 10:25.42 | Saeris | Yeah, it's kind of hiding there. |
| 10:26.19 | Mikma | so what's the latest .toc version? |
| 10:26.28 | Shirik | see topic |
| 10:26.32 | Mikma | nice |
| 10:26.54 | Shirik | Saeris: Seriously, it looks fine |
| 10:27.33 | Shirik | just throwing this out randomly |
| 10:27.39 | Saeris | I can't find the problem. It works fine out of combat, but not in. |
| 10:27.41 | Shirik | have you tried printing out a message when the event occurs |
| 10:27.45 | Shirik | oh it works out of combat |
| 10:27.45 | Shirik | ok |
| 10:27.55 | Saeris | Yeah, prior to the patch it worked in combat too. |
| 10:28.05 | Saeris | Nothing in the patch notes documents a change that could break this. I'm baffled. |
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| 10:31.54 | Shirik | the only thing I don't like |
| 10:31.59 | Shirik | is the OnAttributeChanged script |
| 10:32.19 | Shirik | but it could be right |
| 10:32.27 | Shirik | dunno, I'm going to go get something to eat... good luck |
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| 10:38.57 | Saeris | Anyone else have any idea what could be causing this? |
| 10:39.05 | Shirik | morning cladhaire |
| 10:39.38 | nymbia | Saeris: silly question, but do you have autobar? |
| 10:39.39 | Shirik|AFK | actually Saeris |
| 10:39.40 | Shirik|AFK | I'd... |
| 10:39.58 | Saeris | Nope, nymbia. |
| 10:39.58 | Shirik|AFK | probably hook that OnAttributeChanged() script to see if it's being called |
| 10:40.33 | nymbia | Saeris: ok; something in autobar was busting up other templates, so i had to check ;) |
| 10:40.36 | Shirik|AFK | button:HookScript("OnAttributeChanged", function() DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("button:AttributeChanged() called"); end); |
| 10:40.45 | cladhaire | morning |
| 10:40.49 | Shirik|AFK | /afk |
| 10:40.59 | nymbia | mornin' cladhaire |
| 10:41.35 | Shirik|AFK | btw Saeris ask cladhaire he knows everything :D |
| 10:41.46 | cladhaire | ? |
| 10:42.21 | Saeris | I made a post here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105751186&postId=1057514910&sid=1#0 describing the problem. |
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| 10:43.29 | Saeris | Also, Shirik, commenting out the OnAttributeChanged line had no effect on the ability of the buttons to change actions in combat. They still get stuck in whatever action they had when combat started. |
| 10:43.50 | zenzelezz | there's something fishy about thise Coke... I opened it two minutes ago and it's still bubbling like crazy |
| 10:44.07 | Gnarfoz | fishy bubbling crazy coke |
| 10:44.43 | cladhaire | Saeris: possibly a bug with the new state driver system, unclear. |
| 10:44.51 | cladhaire | Hopefully Slouken can clarify today. |
| 10:47.28 | Saeris | cladhaire: Do you know of any temporary way around this problem? Some other way I could write the paged action bar functionality? |
| 10:47.42 | cladhaire | no, Im' not horribly familiar with that system |
| 10:47.48 | cladhaire | only hacked enough to get specifically what I needed. |
| 10:49.31 | Saeris | Hmm, same here. Okay, I'll just keep a watch on the thread I made then. |
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| 11:02.52 | JunkHead-Work | Well, so far, from what addons I use on WoW here at work, for sure, MobileFrames is messing up something. |
| 11:03.03 | JunkHead-Work | Anyone here use that? |
| 11:03.06 | zenzelezz | any Linux heads around? |
| 11:04.49 | zenzelezz | nevermind, got it |
| 11:06.17 | Legorol | JunkHead-Work: MobileFrames is deprecated, it's replaced in latest Cosmos release by FluidFrames |
| 11:06.25 | Legorol | updating addons on patch day helps :P |
| 11:06.38 | JunkHead-Work | I read that somewhere, but I tried Fluidframes and didn't like it. |
| 11:06.57 | Legorol | fair enough, unfortunately afaik AnduinLothar has no intention of updating MF |
| 11:07.20 | JunkHead-Work | Well, I just liked MF because you dropped it in the folder and ti worked. period. |
| 11:07.26 | JunkHead-Work | I'd like something else like that. |
| 11:07.37 | JunkHead-Work | Fluidframes just.. doesn't do it for me. |
| 11:07.50 | Legorol | can't you just drop FF into the folder, and it... works? |
| 11:08.09 | JunkHead-Work | Well, the one time I tried it, I moved a couple things around to test it out. |
| 11:08.22 | JunkHead-Work | And ended up removing my name from my character window. |
| 11:08.28 | Legorol | :D |
| 11:08.32 | Legorol | that's funny |
| 11:08.39 | JunkHead-Work | Why that would even be possible makes no sense at all. |
| 11:08.55 | JunkHead-Work | But I could resize my name, but couldn't get it back on the window. |
| 11:09.01 | JunkHead-Work | It would go "behind" the window. |
| 11:09.04 | Legorol | i have no experinece with FF, but presumably it allows you to move everything, including fontstrings |
| 11:09.05 | JunkHead-Work | So I said screw it. |
| 11:09.15 | Legorol | fair enough |
| 11:09.30 | Chemia | sounds like the layers got mucked up |
| 11:09.37 | JunkHead-Work | Why Blizzard hasn't just implemented movable windows into the basic UI is beyond me. |
| 11:09.45 | JunkHead-Work | That sounds like the most basic thing to add. |
| 11:09.47 | Legorol | because we can do it with addons? |
| 11:09.51 | Chemia | ^ |
| 11:10.01 | Legorol | and because movable frames is one of the most frustrating things to a user if they get it wrong and don't know how to reset it? |
| 11:10.02 | JunkHead-Work | They implement otehr stuff slowly. |
| 11:10.18 | Legorol | i get endless nagging from guildies who do something as simple as moving their chat windows accidentally and don't know how to reset it |
| 11:10.22 | Legorol | now imagine that you could move everything |
| 11:10.26 | Chemia | lol |
| 11:10.32 | JunkHead-Work | You have a point. |
| 11:10.45 | Legorol | you forget the level of computer literacy of the average WoW user |
| 11:10.50 | Legorol | you want to protect them from themselves |
| 11:11.00 | Chemia | computers are dangerous |
| 11:11.01 | Chemia | :) |
| 11:11.04 | Legorol | very |
| 11:11.12 | JunkHead-Work | COmputer literacy, yeah I forget that... |
| 11:11.17 | JunkHead-Work | But overall stupidity... |
| 11:11.18 | Legorol | i think there should be computing licences, similar to driving licences, and you shouldn't be allowed to use a computer without it ;-) |
| 11:11.23 | Chemia | lol |
| 11:11.23 | JunkHead-Work | The forums remind me of that daily. |
| 11:11.55 | Legorol | just imagine the increase in the volume of support requests for simple stuff like "zomg i moved my target frame somewehre and can't find it" |
| 11:12.07 | JunkHead-Work | AH shit check this out. |
| 11:12.10 | JunkHead-Work | I got one for ya. |
| 11:12.23 | JunkHead-Work | About... I dunno. 2 weeks ago or so. |
| 11:12.23 | Legorol | PEBKAC stories are always amusing |
| 11:12.27 | JunkHead-Work | Me and 2 friends were playing. |
| 11:12.44 | JunkHead-Work | One friend, logged on her rogue to make our lowbies some letaher armor. |
| 11:12.57 | JunkHead-Work | She clicke don a merchant to buy some thread or something. |
| 11:13.09 | JunkHead-Work | And the buy window was halfway off her screen. |
| 11:13.12 | JunkHead-Work | At the top. |
| 11:13.16 | Chemia | lol |
| 11:13.26 | JunkHead-Work | She could only see the bottom maybe... inch of the buy screen. |
| 11:13.55 | JunkHead-Work | I told her to try usual stuff, like, /reloadui... UI scale and such. |
| 11:14.00 | JunkHead-Work | Nothing worked. |
| 11:14.20 | JunkHead-Work | She eventually fixed it by disabling all addons then re=enabling them... |
| 11:14.27 | JunkHead-Work | But have you ever heard of that happening? |
| 11:15.29 | Chemia | eh, fubar has pushed my minimap to the way bottom of the screen before |
| 11:15.49 | Chemia | happens when i had auto-adjust frames on |
| 11:15.53 | Chemia | have* |
| 11:16.03 | JunkHead-Work | Well, she uses titan, and we checke doptions in it also. |
| 11:16.23 | JunkHead-Work | It's just kinda weird because as far as I know it is impossible to accidentally drag a window that high. |
| 11:16.53 | Chemia | ugh, too many group quests for ogri'la rep |
| 11:17.06 | Chemia | the repeatable bombing one is fun tho |
| 11:18.00 | JunkHead-Work | I haven't had a chance to play my main yet. |
| 11:18.18 | JunkHead-Work | I got a Kara run this morning, then after that I might check out some new stuff. |
| 11:18.19 | Chemia | I just got friendly with skyguard :\ |
| 11:18.23 | JunkHead-Work | Cool. |
| 11:18.31 | Chemia | and ogri'la about an hour ago |
| 11:18.39 | JunkHead-Work | What does Ogri'la Rep do? |
| 11:18.41 | Chemia | I want that ogri'la revered trinket |
| 11:18.49 | Chemia | items afaik |
| 11:18.50 | JunkHead-Work | Ah I found a link. |
| 11:18.54 | Chemia | the uh |
| 11:18.56 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/ogrila_rewards.png |
| 11:18.58 | Chemia | +7 weapon damage trinket |
| 11:19.04 | Chemia | is amazing for kitty druids :) |
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| 11:19.37 | Chemia | +7 weapon damage with 1.0 attack speed is like, 98 AP |
| 11:19.53 | JunkHead-Work | Is that what speed a cat druid attacks at? |
| 11:19.57 | Chemia | yeah |
| 11:20.00 | JunkHead-Work | <-- Knows nothing about druids |
| 11:20.03 | JunkHead-Work | Cool. |
| 11:20.12 | Chemia | It's awesome, and I want it :( |
| 11:20.51 | Chemia | however, it's 1:20AM |
| 11:20.53 | Chemia | and time for sleep |
| 11:20.57 | JunkHead-Work | :'( |
| 11:21.01 | JunkHead-Work | Night night. |
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| 11:54.29 | Legorol | mm, am i the only one wishing the cooldown rings on target debuffs were optional? |
| 11:57.04 | JoshBorke | yea |
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| 11:57.54 | JoshBorke | <3 |
| 12:03.13 | Nom- | man what a PITA |
| 12:03.30 | Nom- | I have to spend gold to respec and i lose 2 more vital points from holy to do so |
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| 12:12.36 | Nom- | oo wowi dead in the water? :/ |
| 12:12.40 | Nom- | ah there it goes |
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| 12:26.07 | zenzelezz | compiling stuff is so much more fun on a Core 2 Duo with 1 GB RAM than on a Via Nehemiah with 256 MB RAM |
| 12:31.49 | Gnarfoz | 1gb still sucks :D |
| 12:32.18 | zenzelezz | not when you're used to 256 MB PC2100 and go to 1 GB PC4300 |
| 12:32.33 | zenzelezz | besides, it's just my IRC+servers+Firefox+Thunderbird+fun computer |
| 12:36.40 | zenzelezz | anyone use/tried Enlightenment DR17? |
| 12:36.49 | Josh_Borke | zenzelezz: i have |
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| 12:37.09 | zenzelezz | know if it's in a decent working state, or if it's better to stick to DR16? |
| 12:37.17 | Josh_Borke | zenzelezz: it was in a decent working state for me |
| 12:37.32 | zenzelezz | I'll try it out then, cheers =) |
| 12:39.23 | Shirik|AFK | .... |
| 12:39.26 | Shirik|AFK | DDR2 is horrible |
| 12:39.43 | zenzelezz | not much choice for the motherboards I could get |
| 12:41.51 | Gnarfoz | huh? :) |
| 12:42.06 | Gnarfoz | it's basically what all motherboards available these days support |
| 12:42.14 | Gnarfoz | how does that limit your choice? |
| 12:42.44 | zenzelezz | just in that way ;-p Saw no old-DDR boards, and no DDR2 |
| 12:42.44 | Shirik | because DDR2 sucks |
| 12:42.49 | zenzelezz | personally I don't care, seems good enough for me |
| 12:42.58 | Shirik | P.S. Problem with integrating an error handler in your addons |
| 12:43.08 | Shirik | Every time someone gets an error with ANY addon, they come to your site asking for help |
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| 12:43.15 | Shirik | today I've had both of these bug reports filed: |
| 12:43.23 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 12:43.34 | Shirik | [*] Lua error: Interface/Addons/FuBar/libs/Dewdrop2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:668: attempt to call global 'GetFullScreenName' (a nil value) |
| 12:43.38 | Gnarfoz | how does ddr2 suck -.- it doesn't, you're a victim of FUD :D |
| 12:43.45 | Shirik | No, DDR2 sucks |
| 12:44.02 | Shirik | and you have been told otherwise, and the people who told you so ignored its problems when telling you this |
| 12:44.06 | Shirik | Why is DDR2 good, speed? |
| 12:44.09 | Shirik | answer that one for me |
| 12:44.17 | Shirik | Interface\AddOns\CT_UnitFrames\CT_TargetFrame.lua:122: attempt to index global 'TargetFrameBuff1' (a nil value) |
| 12:44.21 | Shirik | both of these are not RDX bugs -_- |
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| 12:44.47 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: higher bandwith |
| 12:44.49 | Shirik | DDR2 is bad because of the exact same reason Rambus was bad |
| 12:44.54 | Shirik | With one exceptiomn |
| 12:44.57 | Shirik | it's not proprietary |
| 12:45.05 | Gnarfoz | rambus is a totally different concept o.o |
| 12:45.08 | Shirik | How does DDR2 accomplish everything that it does? By increasing latency. |
| 12:45.12 | Shirik | Rambus had the exact same problem |
| 12:45.21 | Shirik | Double the speed, double the latency |
| 12:45.23 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't increase latency. That's the FUD I was talking about |
| 12:45.23 | Kaso | So, one day in, whats the opinion of the whisper throlleting? too much (stopping addons?) or two little (spam still getting though?) |
| 12:45.34 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: Try reading the CAS ratings on sticks and check again |
| 12:45.51 | Gnarfoz | try reading the actual ns ratings on the chips and go figure? |
| 12:45.52 | Shirik | Kaso: I haven't had any issues with the throttling personally |
| 12:46.13 | zenzelezz | Rambus had another problem; price |
| 12:46.16 | Gnarfoz | ddr2 is not ddr1 chips with different CAS ratings |
| 12:46.20 | Shirik | that's because it was proprietary :P |
| 12:46.33 | Kaso | how do things like "!gems" work with it Shirik ? |
| 12:46.37 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: CAS still means EXACTLY what it did with DDR1 |
| 12:46.39 | Gnarfoz | it was embraced by intel only, that's another reason |
| 12:46.49 | Shirik | it means clock delay |
| 12:46.50 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: it does, but they are not DDR1 chips |
| 12:46.55 | Shirik | right, but you still have the latency |
| 12:47.07 | Shirik | and no matter what response time you're getting, the processor will ALWAYS wait the exact amount of time the chip tells it to wait |
| 12:47.11 | Gnarfoz | yep, the clock is different, though? |
| 12:47.11 | Shirik | which is dictated by the CAS rating |
| 12:47.20 | Shirik | the clock of the processor doesn't change based on what stick you're using |
| 12:47.27 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 12:47.30 | Gnarfoz | cas is ram cycles |
| 12:47.32 | Gnarfoz | not cpu cycles |
| 12:47.41 | Shirik | Would you like to explain to me where this "cycle" comes from? |
| 12:47.54 | Gnarfoz | frequency? |
| 12:47.58 | Shirik | frequency of what? |
| 12:48.19 | Gnarfoz | the frequency the chips are operated at? |
| 12:48.30 | Shirik | There is only one clock in an entire computer system. That frequency is dictated by the microprocessor or microcontroller itself |
| 12:48.40 | Shirik | all other timings are based off that frequency |
| 12:48.52 | Gnarfoz | there is only one clock? are you insane? xD |
| 12:49.03 | Shirik | ok, you could exclude a GPU |
| 12:49.04 | Shirik | that's about it |
| 12:49.08 | Gnarfoz | PCI has 33MHz, PCI-E has something else, if AGP is present, it also has it's own, GPU, CPU, RAM |
| 12:49.17 | Shirik | which are all based off the central clock |
| 12:49.20 | Gnarfoz | .. |
| 12:49.33 | Gnarfoz | each has, most likely, it's own clockgen |
| 12:49.37 | Nom- | wow is it laggy in there atm |
| 12:49.45 | Shirik | would you like some circuit diagrams? |
| 12:49.48 | Shirik | I should have them around here somewhere |
| 12:49.52 | Gnarfoz | damn, gotta go carry up some cases because our damn elevator is still not finished |
| 12:49.58 | Shirik | have fun |
| 12:50.03 | Gnarfoz | just when something non-boring came up :D |
| 12:50.04 | Shirik | I need excersize tbh |
| 12:50.44 | Gnarfoz | laters |
| 12:52.46 | Nom- | anyone else noticing massive lag? |
| 12:52.56 | Nom- | Like taking 10 seconds to conjure water after the cast finishes |
| 12:53.43 | Shirik | yes |
| 12:53.46 | Shirik | but that would be my school |
| 12:53.50 | Shirik | because they're filled with morons |
| 12:54.09 | Shirik | and probably watching my irc chat right now and going to disconnect me all like "ha, now call us morons!" |
| 12:54.18 | Shirik | ah, who am I kidding they couldn't do that, they haven't the slightest idea how :P |
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| 12:59.44 | Nom- | lol |
| 13:00.01 | Shirik | ummm |
| 13:00.04 | Shirik | I don't know if I'm going crazy |
| 13:00.09 | Shirik | but I'm seeing alliance chat in trade channel o.o |
| 13:00.24 | Shirik | no I take that back he's just an orc being a moron |
| 13:03.48 | Nom- | ooo nice |
| 13:03.48 | Nom- | read the new anti-spam stuff ? |
| 13:03.48 | Nom- | # |
| 13:03.48 | Nom- | # These tools function on a per-account basis, meaning that reporting one character on an account will ignore all chat text and mail from that entire account until you log off. |
| 13:03.50 | Shirik | yeh |
| 13:03.52 | Shirik | and tbh |
| 13:03.55 | Shirik | I haven't gotten one gold spam yet |
| 13:04.00 | Gnarfoz | a month ago when patch notes came ^^ |
| 13:05.05 | Shirik | yey! |
| 13:05.09 | Shirik | another server restart! |
| 13:05.10 | Shirik | >.> |
| 13:05.14 | Gnarfoz | lucky you .D |
| 13:05.22 | Nom- | hopefully fixing the lag problems |
| 13:05.27 | Nom- | 30 second warning restart ? |
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| 13:10.22 | Shirik | no |
| 13:10.23 | Shirik | 15 minute |
| 13:10.29 | Shirik | wtf why I disconnected |
| 13:10.33 | Shirik | ok maybe 30 sec |
| 13:10.36 | Shirik | but they said 15 minutes >.> |
| 13:10.48 | Shirik | retrieving character list......... |
| 13:10.53 | Shirik | by the time I'll be able to log in I'll be in class :( |
| 13:11.00 | Shirik | THAT'S awesome! |
| 13:11.03 | Shirik | Never seen that one before |
| 13:11.21 | Shirik | "error retrieving character list" and now I'm stuck at the character select screen with no characters, and all buttons greyed out |
| 13:12.57 | sysrage | even quit? |
| 13:13.05 | Shirik | And the only option when it says "error retrieving character list" is "okay"... well NO it's not okay! |
| 13:13.06 | sysrage | or i guess it's Back |
| 13:13.16 | Shirik | But you won't give me that option, now will you ? |
| 13:13.19 | Shirik | hehe |
| 13:13.29 | Shirik | no, actually everything's greyed out -_- I had to X out of it |
| 13:13.33 | sysrage | heh |
| 13:13.36 | Shirik | actually, the little rotate character buttons worked |
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| 13:13.41 | Shirik | except there's no character to rotate |
| 13:13.45 | sysrage | awesome |
| 13:17.42 | Shirik | ony has now been 2-manned |
| 13:17.49 | Shirik | who will be the first to solo her?! |
| 13:17.56 | Nom- | lol 2-manned ? |
| 13:17.59 | Gnarfoz | by whom? |
| 13:17.59 | Nom- | that's crazy |
| 13:18.06 | Gnarfoz | at 70 though, I guess |
| 13:18.12 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104546839&sid=1 |
| 13:18.15 | Gnarfoz | 3-manned was 60s :D |
| 13:18.32 | Nom- | wtf? |
| 13:18.34 | Nom- | 7 hours??? |
| 13:18.34 | zenzelezz | any idea how much the old skull bosses scale for 70s? |
| 13:18.54 | Nom- | they don't :) |
| 13:18.57 | Nom- | the damage is the same |
| 13:18.59 | Gnarfoz | they are 73 mobs |
| 13:19.05 | Nom- | you resist most of the spell damage |
| 13:19.07 | Gnarfoz | for alle mechanics that differ by level |
| 13:19.18 | Gnarfoz | like glancing blows, resists, etc |
| 13:19.27 | Gnarfoz | hit/crit/def chance |
| 13:19.39 | Gnarfoz | but their HP for example is the same, their dmg will be the same |
| 13:19.46 | Gnarfoz | but your HP and your dmg will be bigger now :> |
| 13:19.54 | zenzelezz | interesting |
| 13:20.31 | Nom- | oh and a level 64 mage in crap gear can survive a deep breath :P |
| 13:20.35 | Nom- | did it 3 times in a row! |
| 13:21.17 | Nom- | we hit ony up for the free gold a few times |
| 13:21.28 | Nom- | 20 gold for no work at all really |
| 13:21.31 | Nom- | 10-manned it |
| 13:22.20 | a-stray-cat | i think the only class that could possibly solo ony would be a paladin |
| 13:22.28 | a-stray-cat | but then how will the paladin handle phase 2? |
| 13:22.33 | Josh_Borke | holy shock! |
| 13:22.39 | a-stray-cat | lol |
| 13:22.47 | Nom- | it'd be damn slow :P |
| 13:22.48 | Josh_Borke | death ray! |
| 13:22.53 | a-stray-cat | rofl death ray |
| 13:22.59 | a-stray-cat | and decapitator from kz, clearly |
| 13:23.03 | Josh_Borke | clearly |
| 13:24.05 | Shirik | 09:22:58 ‹a-stray-cat› i think the only class that could possibly solo ony would be a paladin |
| 13:24.07 | Shirik | I completely agree |
| 13:25.10 | Nom- | I don't think (post 2.1) there's any way to get enough mana regen for it |
| 13:25.31 | Nom- | I think you'll find even 2-man is impossible post 2.1 |
| 13:25.39 | a-stray-cat | clearly the paladin should just use that bugged flask :P |
| 13:25.41 | Shirik | why what happened to mana regen? |
| 13:25.42 | Nom- | you can no longer stack all the mana regen flasks |
| 13:25.46 | Shirik | ah |
| 13:25.49 | Shirik | that all? |
| 13:25.56 | Nom- | well yeah |
| 13:26.14 | Nom- | but 70mp5 from flask + 16 or 20 (whever it is) from elixir |
| 13:26.17 | Nom- | makes a huge difference |
| 13:26.42 | Nom- | they nerfed them all now |
| 13:30.56 | Shirik | Cairenn |
| 13:31.01 | Cairenn | yo? |
| 13:31.05 | Shirik | you should just ignore that guy >< |
| 13:31.08 | Shirik | I gave up on him |
| 13:31.09 | Cairenn | meh |
| 13:31.24 | Cairenn | btw, I never got that email ... |
| 13:31.31 | Shirik | ? |
| 13:31.35 | Shirik | hrm |
| 13:31.42 | Shirik | I actually thought I sent it twice o.o |
| 13:31.45 | Shirik | @wowinterface.com works right? |
| 13:31.51 | Cairenn | yup |
| 13:32.08 | Shirik | maybe my school filters out executables being sent :/ |
| 13:32.17 | zenzelezz | wouldn't be the first time |
| 13:32.20 | Cairenn | may very well |
| 13:32.25 | zenzelezz | just rename is .sex or .xex or something |
| 13:32.29 | Shirik | I'll put it up on a personal site fory ou |
| 13:32.49 | Cairenn | just rename the exe to some other extension and I'll change it back |
| 13:32.58 | zenzelezz | that's what I said :-o |
| 13:33.12 | Cairenn | I know, I was reiterating |
| 13:33.46 | Shirik | yes, rename it to .sex >.> |
| 13:33.52 | Shirik | that won't set off red flags everywhere |
| 13:33.57 | Cairenn | lol |
| 13:34.55 | Shirik | sent :) |
| 13:37.28 | Shirik | The connection has timed out |
| 13:37.28 | Shirik | The server at www.wowinterface.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 13:37.30 | Shirik | :( |
| 13:37.56 | Cairenn | yeah, I know =/ |
| 13:38.20 | Cairenn | received fine that time |
| 13:38.28 | Shirik | yeah it became happy again :) |
| 13:38.38 | Gnarfoz | anyone remember the purl factoid for the wow UI extractor? |
| 13:38.47 | Cairenn | ~api |
| 13:38.52 | Shirik | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 13:38.57 | Cairenn | that too |
| 13:39.00 | Shirik | :) |
| 13:39.01 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: as you just pasted: heavy load on that |
| 13:39.06 | zenzelezz | ~framexml |
| 13:39.07 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 13:39.15 | Cairenn | ah, that was it, thanks zenzelezz |
| 13:39.15 | Shirik | oh yeah Gnarfoz |
| 13:39.17 | Gnarfoz | got a working client, no need to put more load on there ;) |
| 13:39.19 | Shirik | heh, I wasn't thinking about that >< |
| 13:39.22 | Gnarfoz | thx zenzelezz :) |
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| 13:45.29 | Shirik | Woah! |
| 13:45.32 | Shirik | Saeris you still here? |
| 13:45.45 | Shirik | I wonder if I just found the answer to your problem |
| 13:47.32 | Gnarfoz | anyone know where the tooltip code for mousing over players is? |
| 13:47.46 | Gnarfoz | wanna know where the new guild tag is done :) |
| 13:50.26 | Shirik | new guild tag? |
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| 13:57.02 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: default tooltip now displays the player's guild |
| 13:57.08 | Shirik | oh thank god |
| 13:57.19 | Gnarfoz | but it simply puts it beneath the name |
| 13:57.27 | Shirik | that's been annoying the hell out of me that I have to do a /who for people in my party |
| 13:57.35 | Gnarfoz | I liked mine <>'d and below class/level/race etc |
| 13:57.46 | Gnarfoz | (through TinyTip) |
| 13:57.58 | Gnarfoz | now I've got 2x guild lines in my tooltip :< |
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| 13:58.54 | Shirik | ha |
| 13:59.06 | Gnarfoz | can't find it, tho o_o |
| 14:00.15 | Gnarfoz | GameTooltip.xml seems to contain the name part |
| 14:00.17 | Gnarfoz | but not the rest |
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| 14:01.19 | Shirik | it's hax imo |
| 14:01.28 | Shirik | I would refer you to the diffs but |
| 14:01.37 | Shirik | that goes back to the whole wdn.wowinterface.com dealy >< |
| 14:01.53 | sysrage | http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/internet/05/23/computer.virus.reut/index.html |
| 14:02.12 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 14:02.16 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 14:02.29 | sysrage | users ftw |
| 14:02.37 | sysrage | s/users/lusers |
| 14:02.43 | Shirik | lusers |
| 14:03.58 | Shirik | SECOND LIFE, May 14 (Reuters) - Governments should apply real-world laws and regulations to virtual currencies in online worlds like Second Life to prevent potential money laundering, fraud and tax evasion, a report from a British advisory group said on Monday. |
| 14:05.00 | Shirik | "The Fraud Advisory Panel, set up by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales, said legal loopholes were exposing virtual world users to "a growing risk of theft and deception."" |
| 14:18.47 | zenzelezz | woot, I can has E17 |
| 14:19.01 | Industrial | e17? |
| 14:19.06 | Industrial | enlightenment? |
| 14:19.16 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 14:19.21 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 14:19.40 | zenzelezz | I grew up on E, and see no reason to switch =) Same with Slackware |
| 14:21.23 | Gnarfoz | you grew up on E? that could certainly be misunderstood :D |
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| 14:24.19 | Industrial | hum |
| 14:24.29 | Industrial | i downloaded some wow patch from bittorrent |
| 14:24.47 | Industrial | WoW-2.0.12-to-2.1.0-enGB-Win.rar.torrent |
| 14:25.09 | Industrial | now I have this wow-partial-1.MPQ and wow-partial-2.MPQ |
| 14:25.12 | Industrial | where does this go >_> |
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| 14:28.03 | zenzelezz | Industrial: WoW\patches |
| 14:28.23 | Industrial | oh, duh :FD |
| 14:28.34 | Gnarfoz | start the bg downloader, if that works |
| 14:28.38 | Gnarfoz | it will create the correct folders |
| 14:29.26 | zenzelezz | better copy them first so it doesn't try to download them |
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| 14:30.04 | Gnarfoz | if he's trying to figure out where to put them, that's gonna be hard ,) |
| 14:30.19 | Industrial | got it =P |
| 14:30.26 | Industrial | 12% -> 98% ^^ |
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| 14:43.48 | Enkaral | hi can anyone help me with a quick UI question? :) |
| 14:44.00 | Shirik|AFK | the answer is always 42 |
| 14:44.47 | Enkaral | pity the question wasnt 6*7 :( |
| 14:44.48 | Kaso | Enkaral just ask your question |
| 14:45.11 | Josh_Borke | 9*6! |
| 14:45.11 | Enkaral | can i move the pets toolbar without needing an addon? |
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| 14:45.29 | Josh_Borke | technically, yes |
| 14:45.32 | Josh_Borke | do you want to? no |
| 14:45.33 | Shirik|AFK | heh |
| 14:45.39 | Shirik|AFK | bad idea, but yes |
| 14:45.46 | Enkaral | howcome its a bad idea? |
| 14:45.51 | Josh_Borke | it's a pain in the butt |
| 14:45.58 | Shirik|AFK | you can do /script frame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", UIParent, "TOPLEFT", x, y) |
| 14:46.02 | Shirik|AFK | and then do that every time you log in |
| 14:46.04 | Shirik|AFK | if you really want to |
| 14:47.41 | Shirik|AFK | (I forgot the name of the pet toolbar but you would replace "frame" with that name) |
| 14:47.41 | Enkaral | ahh ok that doesnt sound fun lol |
| 14:47.42 | Enkaral | any addon that'll do it easier? |
| 14:47.42 | Shirik|AFK | and you might need to do a frame:ClearAllPoints() before that |
| 14:47.42 | Shirik|AFK | bongos is what I use |
| 14:47.43 | Shirik|AFK | really, any action bar mod |
| 14:48.20 | Enkaral | *takes a look at bongos* thanks |
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| 15:13.55 | Industrial | holy crap |
| 15:14.01 | Industrial | 7.47 total mem usage |
| 15:14.03 | Industrial | >_O |
| 15:14.11 | Osagasu | gigs? |
| 15:14.50 | haste | Industrial: doesn't count the blizz UI afaik |
| 15:15.34 | Industrial | MB |
| 15:15.39 | Industrial | hm okay |
| 15:15.40 | Bleeter | anyone heard if someone's found a cause for the Wine lockup yet (not looking for a solution, jsut wondering if anyone's heard of any progress) |
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| 15:17.34 | amro | Bleeter: I haven't patched yet... did you try getting rid of scan.dll? |
| 15:18.14 | Bleeter | amro: no, that's a new suggestion I've heard... what's it do/for, etc? (while I try it out, 'coz I noticed it close to the tail of the wine debug while I was messing around) |
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| 15:19.02 | amro | it does the keylogger scan. it used to cause my entire system to freeze, but if you delete it WoW runs fine. it recreates it though, so you might want to write a shell script |
| 15:19.03 | Bleeter | (form memory, I think the log was moaning about invalid ELF format on that file) |
| 15:20.38 | amro | Bleeter: any luck? |
| 15:20.54 | Bleeter | amro: for what it's worth, removing doesn't help. It creates a Scan.dll.new, but (a) still crashed (b) doesn't do a rename on that file either, as I was kinda expecting |
| 15:21.21 | Bleeter | removing this file while the game is up doesn't cause success either |
| 15:21.30 | Bleeter | so, erm... nice try, but no banana |
| 15:23.15 | foxlit | :SetTexture("Inteface/Icons/Spell_Nature_SpritArmor"); -- is valid, right? |
| 15:23.26 | Josh_Borke | anyone know about SSL authentication? |
| 15:23.36 | Cide | foxlit: I believe so |
| 15:23.50 | Cide | but "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Nature_SpiritArmor" works for sure |
| 15:25.18 | foxlit | Josh_Borke: what about it? |
| 15:25.44 | Josh_Borke | have you set it up? |
| 15:26.39 | Josh_Borke | foxlit: or know where to look for info on: AuthError: could not verify client: None |
| 15:27.20 | foxlit | on IRC, then? |
| 15:27.42 | Josh_Borke | no, apache web server |
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| 15:28.44 | foxlit | Not a clue :( |
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| 16:21.43 | TC-Working | morning all |
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| 16:35.37 | Shirik|Ecole | o.o |
| 16:35.45 | Shirik|Ecole | wowinterface went to an "extremely low bandwidth" version? |
| 16:36.02 | TC-Working | i didnt think the patch broke any/many addons |
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| 16:36.22 | Shirik|Ecole | no, but the Ace API had some problems |
| 16:36.26 | Shirik|Ecole | which is resulting in panic |
| 16:36.56 | Shirik|Ecole | that and people don't check the "load out of date addons |
| 16:37.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide: Did you get my message? |
| 16:37.57 | Cide | yes, what's up? |
| 16:38.18 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, I'm not really sure if this is an RDX conflict anymore but I'll ask you if you've seen this |
| 16:38.33 | Shirik|Ecole | the person reporting this to me says that when RDX is active, CT_UnitFrames throws this: |
| 16:39.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Interface\AddOns\CT_UnitFrames\CT_TargetFrame.lua:122: attempt to index global 'TargetFrameBuff1' (a nil value) |
| 16:39.23 | Cide | that's unrelated |
| 16:39.30 | Cide | I'm aware of that bug |
| 16:39.39 | Shirik|Ecole | "I changed over the .toc number to the new patch just to see if it works, and it seems to mostly work, however, there is now a conflict with CT_UnitFrames and causes .lua errors to show in the chatlog which it previously did not. " |
| 16:39.40 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, thanks |
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| 16:44.21 | Shirik|Ecole | btw remember that code that crashed your bot the other day Cide? |
| 16:44.27 | Cide | yes |
| 16:44.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I emailed the Lua team and they said it's a confirmed bug that they're working on in 5.1.2 |
| 16:44.41 | Cide | cool |
| 16:45.14 | Shirik|Ecole | until then I shall continue to crash my guildies :D |
| 16:45.16 | Shirik|Ecole | no not really |
| 16:45.30 | Cide | haha |
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| 16:49.50 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 16:49.55 | Shirik|Ecole | why? |
| 16:50.07 | TC-Working | (09:44:15) (Shirik|Ecole) until then I shall continue to crash my guildies :D |
| 16:50.08 | Shirik|Ecole | lol! TC-Working you tempt me! |
| 16:50.18 | Shirik|Ecole | Now it makes me want to type that script into general |
| 16:50.22 | Shirik|Ecole | and see how many people run it |
| 16:50.33 | TC-Working | heh |
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| 16:50.35 | TC-Working | do it |
| 16:50.41 | Mikma | so anyone knows how the new [flyable] should work? i wasn't able to get it working :O |
| 16:50.50 | Shirik|Ecole | it should work fine |
| 16:50.51 | TC-Working | retarded people deserve what they get |
| 16:50.53 | Shirik|Ecole | what are you trying to do? |
| 16:51.01 | Shirik|Ecole | TC-Working: The punishment they get just for enduring general chat is enough |
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| 16:51.20 | TC-Working | hmm...point |
| 16:51.24 | Shirik|Ecole | :) |
| 16:51.33 | Shirik|Ecole | so Mikma what are you trying to do? |
| 16:51.53 | Mikma | Shirik|Ecole: /use [flyable] flyingmount;landmount |
| 16:52.02 | Shirik|Ecole | that doesn't work? |
| 16:52.16 | Mikma | doesn't in my macro for some reason |
| 16:52.20 | Shirik|Ecole | are you using any kind of macro addon or such? |
| 16:52.26 | Shirik|Ecole | is that only part of a macro? |
| 16:52.31 | Mikma | but if i trnormal command /use [flyable] flyingmount, it works |
| 16:52.37 | Mikma | yeah part of macro |
| 16:52.49 | Mikma | i think i got the macro from us-wow forums |
| 16:52.56 | Mikma | there was a 2.1 sticky |
| 16:53.12 | Cide | I found this behavior better: |
| 16:53.23 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.34 | Mikma | ok i'll try that |
| 16:53.50 | Shirik|Ecole | except |
| 16:53.54 | Shirik|Ecole | please spell mounted correctly |
| 16:54.00 | Shirik|Ecole | :D |
| 16:54.01 | Mikma | yeap :) |
| 16:54.04 | Cide | s/munted/mounted/ |
| 16:54.05 | Cide | :/ |
| 16:54.47 | Shirik|Ecole | so like |
| 16:54.50 | Shirik|Ecole | if you want to change mounts now |
| 16:54.56 | Shirik|Ecole | you don't actually have to do /dismount, right? |
| 16:55.06 | Shirik|Ecole | if you're mounted and /use a mount it will switch you to that one |
| 16:55.29 | Mikma | doesn't seem to like the ; marks for some reason |
| 16:55.57 | Shirik|Ecole | try /cast instead of /use |
| 16:56.02 | Shirik|Ecole | if that works, then it appears to be a bug in the /use syntax |
| 16:56.33 | Mikma | nope. this is extremely odd |
| 16:56.45 | Shirik|Ecole | paste up the entire macro |
| 16:56.49 | Shirik|Ecole | perhaps it's something else messing with it |
| 16:57.36 | Mikma | ./cast |flyable,nomounted] Ebon Gyphon /dismount [noflying] /stopmacro [mounted] |
| 16:57.46 | Mikma | the order was different at the start |
| 16:57.47 | Shirik|Ecole | J: Everything is uncertain except for five facts. |
| 16:57.51 | Shirik|Ecole | is that some kind of reference to something? |
| 16:57.59 | Mikma | but when it didn't work i tried to change the orders |
| 16:58.04 | Mikma | whop |
| 16:58.10 | Cide | |flyable |
| 16:58.11 | Shirik|Ecole | .... |
| 16:58.16 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I guess you found it ;) |
| 16:58.24 | Mikma | err, no |
| 16:58.32 | Mikma | still doesn't work after i fixed that lol |
| 16:58.58 | Cide | err |
| 16:59.04 | Cide | it's supposed to be flying |
| 16:59.06 | Cide | not flyable |
| 16:59.08 | Shirik|Ecole | what's the /stopmacro at the end for? |
| 16:59.37 | Mikma | omg, now i will shoot myself |
| 16:59.42 | Mikma | in the face |
| 16:59.46 | Shirik|Ecole | self:Bonk() |
| 16:59.47 | Shirik|Ecole | haha |
| 17:00.15 | Cide | haha, yep :P |
| 17:00.35 | Mikma | so i found out the error i had |
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| 17:00.54 | Mikma | 2 things that i did typo. [ = | and Gryphon = Gyphon |
| 17:01.02 | Gryphen | o,O |
| 17:01.04 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 17:01.06 | Mikma | anyone got a 9mm to loan |
| 17:01.24 | Kaydeethree | I've got an airsoft version of one |
| 17:01.29 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 17:01.38 | TC-Working | yes, i can |
| 17:01.41 | TC-Working | is glock ok? |
| 17:01.44 | Shirik|Ecole | so... curse's site has slowed to a crawl |
| 17:02.02 | Shirik|Ecole | thank you wowinterface for at least taking the time to attempt to provide a solution :) |
| 17:02.20 | Shirik|Ecole | curse on the other hand still has their web 2000.0 design with five milliion graphics |
| 17:02.24 | Shirik|Ecole | that takes forever to load |
| 17:02.44 | Shirik|Ecole | I take that back, it's now five million - 1 graphics |
| 17:02.51 | Shirik|Ecole | since the logo failed to load |
| 17:03.34 | TC-Working | bitch bitch bitch bitch |
| 17:03.43 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
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| 17:03.55 | Shirik|Ecole | hey |
| 17:03.57 | Shirik|Ecole | wowinterface got it right |
| 17:04.01 | Shirik|Ecole | why can't everyone else? |
| 17:04.20 | Shirik|Ecole | but w/e I don't like to go to curse anyway :P |
| 17:04.29 | TC-Working | because not everyone is as good as wowi |
| 17:04.42 | Shirik|Ecole | heh |
| 17:04.55 | TC-Working | but what wowi really needs is a fat pipe |
| 17:05.18 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah but that stuff isn't exactly cheap |
| 17:06.52 | TC-Working | true |
| 17:07.38 | TC-Working | wish i could lend them the OC12 i have here at work |
| 17:08.50 | Mikma | time to test the macro now in SW too :P |
| 17:09.00 | Shirik|Ecole | wish I could lend them |
| 17:09.03 | Mikma | i had to move the /stopmacro [mounted] to first row |
| 17:09.04 | Shirik|Ecole | no wait |
| 17:09.14 | Mikma | or else i get splattered on the ground |
| 17:09.15 | Shirik|Ecole | if I gave them what I have, it would be negative bandwidth for them |
| 17:09.21 | TC-Working | :( |
| 17:09.32 | TC-Working | get a better connection Shirik|Ecole |
| 17:09.35 | TC-Working | NOW!! |
| 17:09.38 | Shirik|Ecole | I will in a month |
| 17:09.39 | Shirik|Ecole | :D |
| 17:09.42 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 17:09.43 | Shirik|Ecole | more like 2 |
| 17:09.52 | Kaydeethree | mikma; I've got a working example in the "The 2.1.0 "It's Patch Day!" PSA & FAQ" sticky over in the UI forum |
| 17:10.13 | Kaydeethree | worked back when we only had one autodismount option that didn't care if you were in the air or not |
| 17:10.22 | Mikma | Kaydeethree: it was your macro that i did copypaste in the first place :D |
| 17:10.43 | Mikma | and then i ass and failed couple of times for some reason, maybe user stupidity |
| 17:10.43 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 17:10.44 | Shirik|Ecole | well |
| 17:10.47 | Shirik|Ecole | you kinda had a | in there |
| 17:10.55 | Shirik|Ecole | :P |
| 17:10.56 | Mikma | kinda you think ;) |
| 17:11.00 | Shirik|Ecole | headed back home bbiab |
| 17:11.23 | Mikma | the |[ marks are next to each other and they look very much alike in windowed mode lol |
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| 17:13.40 | Mikma | what's up with the Channel nr.1 being reserved? |
| 17:13.53 | Industrial | general chan? |
| 17:14.03 | Mikma | no, the number 1 not general |
| 17:14.26 | Mikma | try this: /script for i=1,#DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.channelList do LeaveChannelByName(DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.channelList[i]) end |
| 17:14.32 | Industrial | no :p |
| 17:14.36 | Mikma | you'll see what happens when you join a new channel after that |
| 17:15.01 | Gnarfoz | is there still a way to join different language server-side channels? |
| 17:15.29 | Gnarfoz | they actually managed to make the enGB LFG tool join the enGB LFG channel on a german server, again |
| 17:15.34 | Mikma | heh I keep getting a TargetBuff1 error with CT_UnitFrames |
| 17:15.35 | Gnarfoz | like back in the day before 1.8 |
| 17:17.04 | Mikma | CTMod authors here? |
| 17:18.26 | Shirik|AFK | Cide is |
| 17:18.33 | Mikma | Cide: poke! |
| 17:18.39 | Shirik | Cide is the C of CT |
| 17:18.46 | Shirik | I don't actually know who the T is |
| 17:18.49 | Shirik | but he's probably in here too |
| 17:18.53 | Cide | I'm aware :) |
| 17:18.59 | Cide | Ts is the T, but he's not in here |
| 17:18.59 | Mikma | good good |
| 17:19.16 | Shirik | how do you pronounce that? |
| 17:19.21 | Cide | Tee ess :P |
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| 17:20.10 | Shirik | I think better name for CT would have been Cidets |
| 17:20.11 | Cide | it's his initials really |
| 17:20.22 | Mikma | Cide's Testes |
| 17:20.26 | Shirik | ... |
| 17:20.34 | Mikma | the manly mods! |
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| 17:20.51 | Shirik | my mods are manly! |
| 17:20.56 | Shirik | Even if they do sound like an STD >.> |
| 17:23.18 | Shirik | where do you get the super mana pot recipe? |
| 17:23.19 | Shirik | anyone know? |
| 17:24.06 | Industrial | RTFWOWHEAD |
| 17:24.10 | Industrial | lal |
| 17:24.18 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:25.13 | Mikma | Cide: so why do i have a raidtarget Star on every target (unitframe)? :) |
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| 17:32.33 | Shirik | >>> return math.pow |
| 17:32.33 | Cide | Shirik: function: 008E9F48 |
| 17:32.35 | Shirik | wtf |
| 17:32.38 | Shirik | why does that exist |
| 17:32.42 | Shirik | if there is a ^ operator |
| 17:33.19 | Shirik | for x = -10, 10 do for y = -10, 10 do assert(x ^ y == math.pow(x,y)) end end |
| 17:33.21 | Shirik | >>> for x = -10, 10 do for y = -10, 10 do assert(x ^ y == math.pow(x,y)) end end |
| 17:33.21 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 17:33.24 | Shirik | .. |
| 17:33.25 | Shirik | w/e |
| 17:34.13 | Cide | Shirik: for passing it as a function? |
| 17:34.29 | Cide | limited functional programming |
| 17:34.31 | Shirik | there's no math.add >.> |
| 17:34.36 | Shirik | >>> return math.add |
| 17:34.37 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 17:34.51 | Shirik | I guess I'm just being picky |
| 17:34.58 | Cide | x ^ y might be mapped to math.pow(x, y), I dunno |
| 17:38.20 | End | in 5.0 there was a global called __pow as well |
| 17:38.33 | End | and I think x^y was specifically mapped __pow |
| 17:38.56 | Shirik | __pow? |
| 17:39.00 | Shirik | that looks more like a metamethod |
| 17:39.38 | Shirik | remind me /dump _G is a horrible idea next time I decide to do it |
| 17:39.39 | End | (talking about math library in 5.0 manual) In addition, it registers the global __pow for the binary exponentiation operator ^, so that x^y returns xy. |
| 17:40.19 | End | (the xy is actually x to the y..isn't showing superscript obviously) |
| 17:41.04 | Mikma | Cide: yeah, for some reason i see a star on every target with CTuf enabled |
| 17:44.29 | Shirik | >>> print(-nil) |
| 17:44.30 | Cide | Shirik: [string "print(-nil)"]:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
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| 17:47.05 | Mortius | wow this last patch has messed up my addons so bad, I've spent the past two days trying to fix them. I got a lot working, but I still have a few errors about "tourist 2.0" and my cartographer and atlas loot refuse to work. my alpha settings were all changed for several addons, even the ones I made myself. |
| 17:47.52 | Mortius | cartographer is there, but I can't see it. I'm guessing it's alpha is set to 0 like some of my other mods were, but I can't find an .xml file to fix it |
| 17:48.12 | Mortius | can't get on any wow ui website. none of them will load. |
| 17:48.27 | Shirik | wowinterface loads for me |
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| 17:48.33 | Mortius | it wont here |
| 17:48.40 | clad | Anyone up for a puzzle? =) |
| 17:48.45 | Shirik | ooh puzzles |
| 17:48.49 | Shirik | how many pieces? |
| 17:48.53 | clad | 13 imo! |
| 17:48.57 | Mortius | any clue what the frame name is for cartographer so I can try to :setalpha on it? |
| 17:48.58 | Shirik | is it one of those 3d ones? |
| 17:49.14 | Shirik | I loved those :D |
| 17:50.07 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:50.10 | clad | okay, so quests |
| 17:50.12 | Shirik | just had to use "report spam" for the first time |
| 17:50.13 | Shirik | go ahead clad |
| 17:50.17 | clad | have replacement strings, like <name> and <class> |
| 17:50.33 | clad | does anyone know what <race> expands to for Nightelves, and what <class> expands to for Blood Elf Paladins? |
| 17:50.55 | Shirik | Night Elf |
| 17:50.58 | Shirik | for the first |
| 17:51.10 | Shirik | you can tell by "You have done well, young Night Elf" etc |
| 17:51.19 | Shirik | as for BE paladins, no idea :( |
| 17:51.20 | clad | are you sure that's what it says? |
| 17:51.22 | Shirik | why wouldn'ti t be "paladin" |
| 17:51.23 | Shirik | yup |
| 17:51.25 | Shirik | I have a NE |
| 17:51.30 | clad | Shirik: I suspect it will be Blood Knight |
| 17:51.32 | clad | i have a nelf too |
| 17:51.36 | clad | i'm just not as confident as you are. |
| 17:51.45 | Shirik | been playing her too much lately :P |
| 17:51.56 | Mortius | BugSack-2.2.0.33040\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:575: Tourist-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `IsHostile' (string expected, got boolean) <-- does this mean my acelibrary is out of date? |
| 17:52.16 | Josh_Borke | dunno |
| 17:52.39 | clad | OOOOH |
| 17:52.40 | [Ammo] | it means your touristlib is out of date |
| 17:52.42 | clad | Night Elf isn't a problem |
| 17:52.44 | clad | thats awesome :P |
| 17:52.46 | Mortius | okay thanks ammo |
| 17:53.42 | Mortius | doesn't look like touristlib has been updated in a long time |
| 17:54.15 | clad | blood knight is however =/ |
| 17:54.15 | clad | DAMNIT |
| 17:55.16 | [Ammo] | ooooooohhh my pet shows in login screen for my lock |
| 17:55.18 | [Ammo] | best patch ever |
| 17:56.12 | clad | okay |
| 17:56.13 | Shirik | clad: So I was right with Night Elf? |
| 17:56.15 | clad | i think i can do this |
| 17:56.20 | clad | Shirik: I dunno, I can't test that |
| 17:56.22 | Shirik | ah |
| 17:56.29 | Shirik | well I'm about to get on that character I think |
| 17:56.31 | clad | but Night Elf, oddly enough, doesn't occur as text in any quest description in the whole game |
| 17:56.32 | Shirik | so I'll double check it for ya |
| 17:56.44 | clad | Blood Knight, however does |
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| 17:57.49 | Mortius | well I updated touristlib and now bugsack went nuts with tons of errors lol |
| 18:00.44 | Mortius | this is nuts. everytime I update a mod it adds to my errors per second :| I'm just going to wipe and start from scratch |
| 18:02.28 | Mortius | anyone know of an addon that does what cartographer does? |
| 18:02.54 | Josh_Borke | MetaMap |
| 18:02.57 | Kaelten | I'm wondering what would happen if I set daily and a size in log rotate's config |
| 18:02.59 | Josh_Borke | but it doesn't do everything cart does |
| 18:03.16 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: what do you mean? |
| 18:03.30 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: you can set both options and if either are met it rotates them? |
| 18:03.38 | Kaelten | thats what I'm hoping |
| 18:03.43 | Kaelten | I'm not sure |
| 18:03.57 | Josh_Borke | i'm almost positive that is the behaviour |
| 18:03.57 | Mortius | what I like is the smaller map, I dont like the full screen default map.. also, the mining nodes and showing me where guildies are and flight paths and custom markers |
| 18:04.04 | Josh_Borke | but i haven't done any size limits on logrotate |
| 18:04.24 | Josh_Borke | Mortius: guildies will NOT be available without cart (unless another addon does that, i don't know of any) |
| 18:04.33 | Josh_Borke | Mortius: Gatherer does the mining nodes etc |
| 18:04.46 | Mortius | oh okay |
| 18:05.18 | Mortius | yeah I really like cartographer, but it's giving me about 200 errors a second when I enable it |
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| 18:10.24 | Mortius | I had no errors before updating these mods. I was merely trying to fix the alpha of cartographer. It started with updating one mod, which led to errors making me update other mods, which lead to more errors, and now with them all updated, just about every mod is erroring... I really wish i didn't update :( |
| 18:10.57 | Mortius | Just updated OmniCC and now I get !OmniCC\cooldown.lua:25: attempt to index field 'short' (a nil value)!OmniCC\cooldown.lua:117: in function <Interface\AddOns\!OmniCC\cooldown.lua:112> |
| 18:11.10 | Tuller | Mortius: delete !OmniCC |
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| 18:11.17 | Tuller | Mortius: I changed the folder names |
| 18:11.36 | Mortius | Oh okay thanks man. Didn't know that was yours, neat. :) |
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| 18:15.25 | Mortius | My only startup error now is: Tourist-2.0-35352 (TouristLib):2280: Babble-Zone-2.2: Translation "Hyjal Summit" does not exist.Tourist-2.0-35352 (TouristLib):3170: in main chunk |
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| 18:16.21 | Mortius | my other touristlib errors went away when I updated it. looks like maybe my babble-zone-2.2 is out of date |
| 18:18.28 | TecnoBrat | I would recommend downloading wowaceupdater, it will update all of your ace mods for you |
| 18:18.31 | TecnoBrat | ~wau |
| 18:18.42 | purl | i heard wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater - Updates all your ace addons quickly and easily. |
| 18:18.42 | zenzelezz | hrm, I thought the # show conditionals would change the icon :-| |
| 18:19.41 | sysrage | ~wuu |
| 18:20.32 | purl | [wuu] WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 18:20.32 | sysrage | purl doesn't love me :( |
| 18:20.51 | sysrage | purl, wuu? |
| 18:20.53 | purl | rumour has it, wuu is WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 18:21.06 | sysrage | heh. that needs to be updated.. doesn't do UIWoW anymore cause they're whiney bastards |
| 18:21.37 | sysrage | should add cosmos too though |
| 18:21.48 | sysrage | somebody with power change UIWoW to Cosmos |
| 18:22.01 | sysrage | purl will love you long time |
| 18:22.48 | Mortius | thanks tecnobrat, I'll look into that :) |
| 18:24.10 | TecnoBrat | purl, no wuu is WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, Cosmos, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 18:24.23 | purl | TecnoBrat: okay |
| 18:24.24 | AnduinLothar | anyone got a hunter that can test something for me? |
| 18:24.25 | TecnoBrat | ~wuu |
| 18:24.38 | purl | it has been said that wuu is WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, Cosmos, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 18:24.38 | TecnoBrat | sysrage, you can do it too btw :) |
| 18:24.47 | AnduinLothar | i need o know if UnitIsFeignDeath works for non-partied allies |
| 18:25.13 | sysrage | oh, didn't know that |
| 18:29.31 | AnduinLothar | just tested: only works on the player or in group |
| 18:29.41 | AnduinLothar | does not work on friendlies |
| 18:29.49 | AnduinLothar | and i assume doesn't work on hordies |
| 18:29.59 | AnduinLothar | xfaction* |
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| 18:31.46 | Mortius | trying that wow ui updater, but it doesn't know the version of any of my addons |
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| 18:32.07 | sysrage | ya, you have to update them all like the instructions tell you to :P |
| 18:32.13 | sysrage | the first time |
| 18:32.26 | sysrage | it has it's own version numbers based on dates |
| 18:33.19 | sysrage | i haven't had any problems with it, but to be safe, back up your addons dir, then tell it to update all |
| 18:33.49 | sysrage | http://wuu.vagabonds.info/#gettingstarted |
| 18:34.11 | Mortius | okay thanks a lot |
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| 19:04.44 | KarlThePagan | any WUU users around? |
| 19:05.41 | KarlThePagan | oh bah i just missed a WUU discussion - sysrage ping - are you using WUU to update from wowace? is it working? |
| 19:06.44 | sysrage | yes and yes |
| 19:06.53 | sysrage | at least it was last night |
| 19:07.44 | sysrage | latest version even tells when when the embedded libraries need updates even if there's no new version of the mod itself |
| 19:07.51 | sysrage | tells you* |
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| 19:10.41 | KarlThePagan | sysrage, wanna check again? the mechanism that WUU uses was disabled by Kaelten |
| 19:11.05 | KarlThePagan | so if WUU users aren't getting updates it's because WUU isn't reporting the 404's it's getting |
| 19:11.23 | KarlThePagan | example - http://files.wowace.com/Ace2/latest.txt |
| 19:11.27 | KarlThePagan | 404 Not Found |
| 19:11.30 | sysrage | i'm at work. can't check now |
| 19:11.33 | KarlThePagan | ah ok |
| 19:11.41 | KarlThePagan | maybe someone else will ;) |
| 19:11.56 | sysrage | he disable that feature on purpose to prevent WUU from working? |
| 19:12.07 | KarlThePagan | no, he disabled the feature to save the server from crashing |
| 19:12.29 | KarlThePagan | he was planning to migrate to a new update mechanism which didn't destroy files.wowace.com on patch day |
| 19:12.42 | sysrage | i see |
| 19:12.52 | KarlThePagan | and there was almost no time between PTR down and 2.1 live so... a little suprised ;) |
| 19:13.12 | KarlThePagan | anyways, sorry if you're a mac or linux user |
| 19:13.34 | KarlThePagan | but if you are... I'm doing the core logic for WAU2 which is java based and multiplatform |
| 19:13.41 | sysrage | well the WUU guy is pretty active.. and does most his communication through wowace. will probably be fixed quick |
| 19:14.03 | KarlThePagan | yea, I like WUU, so I posted a heads up |
| 19:14.08 | sysrage | i liked wau. but wuu is perfect for me. i don't want to use multiple updaters |
| 19:14.15 | KarlThePagan | yea, I feel ya |
| 19:14.42 | KarlThePagan | so far leaning against providing plugins for other sites in WAU2 |
| 19:14.50 | KarlThePagan | but might provide an API for it |
| 19:14.56 | sysrage | you should :P |
| 19:14.59 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 19:15.29 | KarlThePagan | it will be wowace-centered tho, and I can't promise there won't be embedded ads to help the project out ;) |
| 19:16.37 | sysrage | ads don't bother me as long as i don't have to click something so the ad goes away and i can do my updates |
| 19:16.51 | KarlThePagan | yea never! |
| 19:16.56 | KarlThePagan | that would suck lol |
| 19:17.31 | sysrage | i wouldn't put it past the UIWoW guy to do that after reading his posts about WUU |
| 19:17.50 | KarlThePagan | hah |
| 19:18.06 | KarlThePagan | I like script/VM updaters |
| 19:18.17 | KarlThePagan | better than native code stuff |
| 19:18.24 | KarlThePagan | you can trust it slightly more imo ;) |
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| 19:18.53 | sysrage | heh ya |
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| 19:21.02 | Kaelten | he AceLibrary is a memory hog |
| 19:21.08 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 19:21.09 | Kaelten | heh |
| 19:21.17 | Josh_Borke | ~kaelten |
| 19:21.30 | purl | from memory, kaelten is More RAM is coming..... KAELTEN AWAYYYYYYYY!!! |
| 19:21.30 | Kaelten | but makes sense I have a ton of libs in it |
| 19:22.07 | sysrage | rofl |
| 19:22.29 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 19:32.33 | Legorol | Can anyone tell me how to hide the "MT Targets" label in CTRA? |
| 19:32.53 | Legorol | I have already turned off the option in General Options to not show the mt list, yet the label is still visible |
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| 19:43.38 | Kaydeethree | uncheck "show group names" |
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| 19:48.59 | KarlThePagan | how long until AceLibrary has a LoadOnDemand configuration ;) |
| 19:49.19 | kergoth | whats a good spot to farm heart of the wild? my jc is stalled at like 270 |
| 19:49.20 | KarlThePagan | probably not ever I guess... since it's all interdependant |
| 19:49.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:49.32 | KarlThePagan | Ungoro crater or hinterlands |
| 19:49.42 | KarlThePagan | hinterlands troll area in the se i guess |
| 19:49.47 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:49.59 | kergoth | the trolls drop em? |
| 19:51.02 | KarlThePagan | yea and the herbs around there |
| 19:51.05 | KarlThePagan | so uh take a herbalist? |
| 19:51.11 | KarlThePagan | at least... i think they do |
| 19:51.34 | KarlThePagan | too lazy to wowhead it |
| 19:52.22 | kergoth | my rogue's exalted consortium, so figured i'd drop skinning and pick up jc |
| 19:54.59 | End | jc is probably a lot better to level now too |
| 19:55.28 | End | when I did it on my blood elf, I got my mining up to 345ish before even hitting outland just from mining thorium |
| 19:55.58 | End | (I bought a lot of gems too!) |
| 19:58.31 | KarlThePagan | with the prospecting change will you really need to buy gems ever again? |
| 19:58.58 | End | you shouldn't I'd hope |
| 19:59.29 | End | most of the thorium had mined went to prospecting just to get gems after I had bought the cheaper ones |
| 20:00.35 | End | I think it is 100% to get a gem even with thorium too |
| 20:00.52 | End | (now that is...) |
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| 20:21.48 | concerned | will auctioneer work over the next patch without it needing an update? |
| 20:24.15 | Gryphen | -.- |
| 20:24.50 | ReachingFarr | it worked for me this morning but spit up a few errors |
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| 20:28.40 | Gnarfoz | embedding info into the tooltip is broken for me |
| 20:28.43 | ReachingFarr | is there now official API published by Blizzard? |
| 20:29.14 | ReachingFarr | s/now/not a/ |
| 20:29.26 | ReachingFarr | exactly |
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| 20:29.54 | GeoMance | 'Lo, everyone! |
| 20:29.57 | ReachingFarr | purl: can you read my mind |
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| 20:38.18 | GeoMance | Oh yea, anyone awake in here who knows anything about scrollframes or sliders? |
| 20:38.26 | GeoMance | sliders/scroll bars. |
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| 20:41.34 | Gnarfoz | anyone got a list of new config.wtf values? |
| 20:41.47 | Gnarfoz | like how do I disable the auto-dismount stuff entirely? |
| 20:51.33 | sysrage | f'KarlThePagan: wowace stuff still seems to be updating with WUU |
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| 20:52.06 | sysrage | at least it sees an update is needed. takin forever to find all the updates though cause curse is so slow |
| 20:53.40 | KarlThePagan | well I am clearly a python noob... because I see descript.ion and latest.txt in that code, but not latest.xml |
| 20:54.06 | KarlThePagan | hmm |
| 20:54.23 | zenzelezz | my friend sure is patient... the day LotRO is released, he runs out and buys it; comes back praising it and telling us we should all join |
| 20:54.32 | zenzelezz | three days later he says he's bored with it and stopped |
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| 20:55.15 | Legorol | ~purl, hug Cairenn |
| 20:55.29 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn tightly until Cairenn turns slightly blue |
| 20:55.29 | Legorol | ~hug Cairenn |
| 20:55.32 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 20:55.32 | Legorol | bah, how does it work |
| 20:55.39 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 20:55.43 | zenzelezz | leave some for us purl |
| 20:56.36 | GeoMance | That's how I got my WoW account. xD |
| 20:56.50 | zenzelezz | hugging Cairenn? |
| 20:56.52 | Industrial | by hugging Cairenn ? |
| 20:57.19 | GeoMance | A friend of mine bought it, and paid for six-months, played for two weeks and decided he didn't want it anymore. xD |
| 20:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the cvar for the screenshot format again? |
| 20:58.26 | sysrage | in response to kaelten's post on the WUU thread, i'm 99.999% sure it does not check versions by checking each file |
| 20:59.01 | Kaelten | if its not using the latest.xml or the latest.txts I don't know what else it could be using |
| 20:59.02 | sysrage | in fact i'm 100% sure cause it tells me if i need a wowace mod pretty much instantly. all the other sites take awhile cause they're gettin scraped |
| 20:59.22 | Kaelten | heh wowace is getting scraped too |
| 20:59.46 | GeoMance | On a seperate note, can anyone figure out why scrollFrame:SetVerticalScroll(scrollFrame:GetVerticalScrollRange()); is setting the vertical scroll to the VerticalScroll of the prior update, rather than the current? |
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| 21:01.50 | sysrage | scraped as in it's 'browsing' wowace.com and using regex matching to find versions. it can't possibly be doing that. it goes too fast |
| 21:02.56 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:03.09 | Gnarfoz | how's the load, Kaelten? |
| 21:03.11 | Gnarfoz | over 5? :) |
| 21:03.15 | sysrage | i'm pretty sure lejordet has a post somewhere in that mile long thread that says how he did wowace |
| 21:03.31 | TC-Working | sysrage, cant it use the svn? |
| 21:03.39 | sysrage | actually that might be how he's doing it |
| 21:03.42 | Industrial | anyone here know php/mysql? got a quickie question |
| 21:03.46 | Shirik | I do |
| 21:03.48 | Industrial | ok |
| 21:03.49 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: fairly low atm, 10.36 |
| 21:03.50 | GeoMance | What you need? |
| 21:03.57 | Kaelten | I know some |
| 21:03.59 | Kaelten | more mysql than php |
| 21:04.02 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: 10 is low on a patch day? nice. :> |
| 21:04.13 | GeoMance | I'm pretty good with both. |
| 21:04.16 | Kaelten | it seems to get up to about 17 or 18 |
| 21:04.28 | Kaelten | then the connection lag kicks in |
| 21:04.33 | Kaelten | since the pipe fills up |
| 21:04.53 | Kaelten | but I havn't seen it above 17-18 this patch day |
| 21:05.14 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 21:05.26 | Kaelten | silly colloquy |
| 21:05.50 | GeoMance | Does the orphan only want to see two places? |
| 21:05.54 | GeoMance | Er, three. |
| 21:06.02 | End | Three and then two more |
| 21:06.06 | GeoMance | Oh, fun. |
| 21:06.21 | Glimjaur | [23:04:16] <Glimjaur> Im looking for functions to be able to write to a textfile from within wow |
| 21:06.22 | Glimjaur | [23:04:26] <Glimjaur> could anyone throw a bone in the right direction? |
| 21:06.24 | GeoMance | But yeah.. <.< Anyone have any clue on my question? |
| 21:07.22 | GeoMance | Saved variables is the only way, Glim. |
| 21:07.22 | GeoMance | At least, the only way I know of. |
| 21:07.22 | End | for horde at least it was sporeggar, the portal and the throne of elements. then after that the orphan wanted caverns of time (where I bought a toy dragon) and silvermoon city |
| 21:07.23 | Glimjaur | ok |
| 21:07.39 | Gryphen | only savedvars at exit or reload, not live writing to files while the game is running |
| 21:07.48 | GeoMance | Yep. |
| 21:07.58 | Glimjaur | i think that will do to |
| 21:08.00 | Glimjaur | :) |
| 21:09.30 | End | (Also, Caverns of Time was awesome because the Time Wardens totally freaked out on my orphan...) |
| 21:09.56 | GeoMance | Ahhh, never ended up going to the Caverns of Time. Last time I got close was BTS. |
| 21:10.21 | End | BTS? |
| 21:10.33 | GeoMance | Before the Storm. |
| 21:10.37 | End | ah |
| 21:10.43 | GeoMance | Pre-BC. Isn't that the turn for it? >.> |
| 21:11.14 | End | it's not the term I've ever seen used |
| 21:12.06 | GeoMance | Er, sorry. BTS was a specific patch. ^^; |
| 21:12.27 | GeoMance | Nah, I got there before they opened it. |
| 21:12.40 | GeoMance | With all of those much too strong Dragons flying around. xD |
| 21:14.34 | GeoMance | Anyway, anyone have ideas about the ScrollFrame problem. <.< |
| 21:17.17 | sysrage | kaelten: as of a post of lejordet's on feb. 26th, i am wrong. he was still parsing (scraping) the html then but planned to switch to latest.xml |
| 21:17.43 | Kaelten | ya hard to say which one he's still doing |
| 21:17.54 | Kaelten | and really its not that bad either way on the server as long as he only gets it once |
| 21:18.56 | Kaelten | but if your not getting a message saying to update to wau1.8 or compatible then he's not using the defunked stuff. |
| 21:20.44 | sysrage | i know he's more than willing to work with the site owners to make things as smooth as possible. he'll prolly respond to the posts you guys made pretty quick. he tried with the UIWoW guy but he's rather stubborn :P |
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| 21:24.50 | foxlit | Bah, I need to code addons that get borked ever few weeks |
| 21:25.01 | foxlit | People aren't updating because "the last version works just fine!" |
| 21:25.09 | sysrage | heh |
| 21:25.31 | sysrage | i have to bug the hell out of people to update sw stats and ktm for that reason |
| 21:25.41 | Kaelten | hehe ya |
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| 21:25.53 | foxlit | Just kill syncing across old versions |
| 21:26.06 | Kaelten | OneBag hasn't had a major update in 5 months |
| 21:26.10 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:26.23 | Kaelten | although a few small things have stopped working so I'll probably release a fix |
| 21:27.25 | TC-Working | foxlit, compare against the date, every month it borks |
| 21:27.30 | TC-Working | heh |
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| 21:29.49 | foxlit | I need some sort of compromise |
| 21:29.49 | foxlit | Good part is that my addon knows when its outdated :P |
| 21:30.27 | foxlit | So it bugs people on log in. They're still lazy |
| 21:30.27 | sysrage | bugs with a msg in chat that nobody reads? or a big annoying popup window? ;) |
| 21:31.11 | foxlit | One of those "GM tickets are currently unavailable" boxes |
| 21:31.12 | foxlit | Standard UI message popup |
| 21:34.44 | GeoMance | Hrm.. |
| 21:34.58 | foxlit | So it stacks with BG notifications and everything; it's a neat thing |
| 21:39.53 | Gnarfoz | -.- |
| 21:40.23 | Gnarfoz | mount macro keeps saying 'interrupted' because it tries to use my mount again after dismounting |
| 21:40.24 | GeoMance | What's wrong, Gnar? |
| 21:40.49 | Gnarfoz | seems to be latency related, but it didn't happen until 2.1? oO |
| 21:41.30 | Gnarfoz | it's just /dismount [mounted]; /use [nomodifier,flyable] flyingmount; [modifier] groundmount; |
| 21:41.37 | Gnarfoz | that worked before |
| 21:42.02 | End | mine sometimes tries to remount me immediately |
| 21:42.08 | End | however it doesn't always |
| 21:42.19 | Gnarfoz | we've got the same problem |
| 21:42.20 | End | where are you noticing this currently? |
| 21:42.29 | End | I have a theory :P |
| 21:42.31 | Gnarfoz | shattrath |
| 21:42.37 | GeoMance | Why don't you put: [nomounter, nomodifier, flyable] |
| 21:42.38 | End | oh, so much for my theory :( |
| 21:42.42 | GeoMance | nomounted^ |
| 21:42.54 | Gnarfoz | GeoMance: ah, good idea |
| 21:43.02 | GeoMance | Heh. |
| 21:43.09 | End | anyways, I -do- have nomounted |
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| 21:43.25 | Gnarfoz | still |
| 21:43.25 | GeoMance | On both? |
| 21:43.25 | End | actually, I think it's /stopmacro [mounted] |
| 21:43.29 | Gnarfoz | "item not ready yet" |
| 21:43.51 | Gnarfoz | I put it on both, got on my ground mount, and pressed the macro again |
| 21:43.59 | Gnarfoz | dismounted me and said 'item not ready yet' |
| 21:44.13 | Gnarfoz | I guess it evaluated the 'nomounted' when I was on the mount, then |
| 21:44.26 | GeoMance | Are you trying to change mounts? |
| 21:44.33 | Gnarfoz | err |
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| 21:44.49 | Gnarfoz | nevermind my last sentence, it's mixed up. :p |
| 21:44.52 | Gnarfoz | no, I'm not |
| 21:44.55 | GeoMance | Heh. |
| 21:45.05 | End | I understand what your problem is, only because I have it too :P |
| 21:45.35 | End | it is as if it dismounts immediately and notices as such before the macro ends |
| 21:47.03 | Tem | try sticking a /dismount at the begining |
| 21:47.10 | Gnarfoz | I have a dismount at the beginning |
| 21:48.00 | Gnarfoz | hm I'll shuffle the different things around a bit inside the macro, again |
| 21:48.09 | Gnarfoz | perhaps there's something I'm missing here :) |
| 21:48.32 | NimbleRabit | hmm what's the problem |
| 21:48.46 | NimbleRabit | oh nvm I found it up there |
| 21:48.48 | sysrage | i have dismount at the end. works perfectly |
| 21:49.30 | Gnarfoz | so you have basically |
| 21:49.34 | sysrage | /use [nomodifier,nomounted] groundmount; modifier:alt,nomounted] flyingmount |
| 21:49.39 | sysrage | /dismount [nomodifier,mounted] |
| 21:49.48 | End | hmm, putting dismount at the end might be better |
| 21:49.52 | Gnarfoz | k, I'm gonna give that a try |
| 21:50.49 | sysrage | i forgot a [ in there but you get the picture |
| 21:51.52 | Gnarfoz | yay |
| 21:52.03 | Gnarfoz | your's works perfectly like it did yesterday in 2.0 :> |
| 21:52.14 | Gnarfoz | wonder what's changed that broke mine |
| 21:52.49 | GeoMance | I think my WoW is broken. -_- |
| 21:53.25 | GeoMance | The actionbar slots are always messing up on me. |
| 21:55.00 | GeoMance | Anyway. |
| 21:55.22 | NimbleRabit | Gnarfoz: probably has something to do with the dismount when you try to do stuff change |
| 21:56.18 | Gnarfoz | turned that off, tho |
| 21:56.26 | Gnarfoz | probably still the reason |
| 21:57.16 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
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| 21:59.37 | GeoMance | Need... Scrollbar help.. |
| 22:00.14 | sysrage | click the down arrow and it scrolls down. the up arrow scrolls up! |
| 22:00.26 | Gnarfoz | it's a win-win situation! |
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| 22:01.12 | GeoMance | Heh. Most specific. I need to know why the scrollbar I have isn't scrolling correctly. <.< Well, it scrolls correctly, it just isn't acting the way it should. |
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| 22:02.20 | sysrage | auctioneer scanning give an error for everybody else? |
| 22:02.33 | sysrage | getdoublewidetrailer error |
| 22:04.16 | foxlit | From memory, can UnitBuff take buff names? :) |
| 22:06.39 | NimbleRabit | ckknight: ping |
| 22:07.16 | Tem | can a 63 tank mana tombs? |
| 22:07.36 | foxlit | Comfortably? Probably not. |
| 22:08.01 | foxlit | 64-66 mobs, top end of that is going to be evil |
| 22:08.17 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.20 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 22:08.24 | Gnarfoz | I should get sleep. :p |
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| 22:22.48 | sysrage | every second, second and a half my game has a split second of lag. not enough to screw me up, but enough to be annoying. anybody else seeing this? |
| 22:26.47 | GeoMance | I get that in certain areas. |
| 22:27.07 | Gnarfoz | I don't get that :> |
| 22:31.07 | foxlit | >>> 10^7, 2^16, 2^32, 2^64 |
| 22:31.14 | foxlit | wtb Cide! |
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| 22:34.58 | Mikma | err, anyone remembers the new spell timer for 2.1.0? |
| 22:35.04 | Mikma | it's in wowi but i can't remember the name |
| 22:35.34 | YammYgirlcoding | night all! Anyone has found a fix for EquipCompare while using AH to avoid the overlapping bug? |
| 22:36.34 | cladhaire | hrm, is PerfecTRaid working for anyone? |
| 22:36.45 | Mikma | i can test it, but what? |
| 22:36.50 | Mikma | what what, in the butt |
| 22:36.55 | cladhaire | its just not for me |
| 22:36.57 | cladhaire | nothign show up |
| 22:37.00 | cladhaire | and it did on the ptr |
| 22:37.10 | Mikma | ok i'll test and see what happens |
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| 22:43.34 | Cairenn | okay, I need to give mom back her computer - hopefully will have mine back tomorrow afternoon some point |
| 22:43.40 | Cairenn | later guys |
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| 22:46.36 | GeoMance | Blather blather blather. |
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| 22:51.35 | Mikma | ~framexml |
| 22:51.51 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 22:52.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh i'm still getting spammed with gold ads |
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| 22:58.12 | GeoMance | But, not as many, right? |
| 22:59.34 | Kaydeethree | In the past day and a half I've gotten 1 |
| 22:59.46 | Kaydeethree | and I've been on pretty much the whole time |
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| 23:05.07 | GeoMance | Hey, Borke. I've got a question, if you know any more about scrollframes, I mean. |
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| 23:13.50 | wereHamster | when was 2.1/0 released? this week? |
| 23:14.10 | pastamancer | yesterday |
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| 23:33.23 | Corrodias | as for cartographer, for me it works normally except several maps are blank as well as the edges of maps where it should be showing nether |
| 23:33.24 | GeoMance | Does anyone else have a problem with random alpha changes on their Actionbar slots? |
| 23:33.46 | Corrodias | no, but somebody was having trouble with alpha levels earlier... Mortius |
| 23:35.45 | GeoMance | Hrm. For some reason, Buttons, and Buffs/Debuffs have their alphas changed randomly on me. Which is very difficult if you're worried about a buff coming off. xD |
| 23:38.06 | Shadowed | Shirik: Is there an option for exporting SVN logs in Tortoise? |
| 23:38.15 | Shirik | affirmative |
| 23:38.19 | Shirik | view log |
| 23:38.22 | Shirik | there should be a save log button |
| 23:38.50 | Shadowed | nope! |
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| 23:39.46 | Shadowed | Only copy to clipboard =( |
| 23:39.51 | Shirik | sec |
| 23:39.56 | Shirik | I know I've done it before |
| 23:40.06 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 23:41.11 | Shirik | oh haha that's what I did |
| 23:41.19 | Shirik | shift-select them all and copy clipboard |
| 23:41.39 | Shadowed | That seems incredibly hacky! |
| 23:41.48 | Shirik | meh |
| 23:42.11 | Shadowed | Will have to use that if I can't find another method I guess, thanks |
| 23:42.36 | Shirik | good luck |
| 23:46.36 | sylvanaar | what are you guys trying to do? copy to clipboard automatically? |
| 23:47.24 | Xuerian | Save tortise logs. |
| 23:47.42 | sylvanaar | lol ok |
| 23:48.47 | sylvanaar | sounds about right |
| 23:49.35 | Corrodias | hahah, i pressed the X to close the cartographer window and it just -mostly- closed |
| 23:50.32 | sylvanaar | i installed svn and tortoise, svn is good for batch/automated stuff |
| 23:51.44 | sylvanaar | there's probably a less confusing name for it "the command line version" or something |
| 23:53.12 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. Is there any TOC option I can add to make the addon loaded when game starts? |
| 23:54.12 | Corrodias | i like cartographer so much.. just... more working like. :( |
| 23:54.32 | Corrodias | they always load when you log in except if they have loadondemand enabled |
| 23:54.59 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: Trying to copy the revision logs from SVN to an XML file, but theres no way to directly save it to file short of copying and pasting |
| 23:55.04 | YammYgirlcoding | and when the mod have loadondemand, is there a way to load it onload anyway? |
| 23:55.24 | Corrodias | well, remove that option, i suppose? i've never tried it. |
| 23:56.01 | YammYgirlcoding | i dont know. the author said that we'd have to run /script LoadAddOn("KillMore") everytime we want to use it. that's silly ! |
| 23:56.45 | YammYgirlcoding | - oh i will gring over there. oh wait. i have to turn the addon on. |
| 23:56.56 | YammYgirlcoding | silly dont u think? :) |
| 23:57.42 | cladhaire | Shadowed: why can't you svn log --xml > filename.xml |
| 23:58.04 | Shadowed | Because it's not finding any command named svn and haven't figured out which exe "svn" is suppose to run |
| 23:58.13 | YammYgirlcoding | or some months later. - oh I will grind a little bit... oh.. i have to turn some addon on. what's the name. what's the name. * log off * *search 'some' name in the 100 addons list. oh!! i guess it's that one. |
| 23:58.39 | YammYgirlcoding | more silly, dont u think? :) |
| 23:58.44 | cladhaire | Shadowed: it runs svn.exe |
| 23:58.54 | cladhaire | which can be downloaded in any number of win32 binary distributions of svn :P |
| 23:59.07 | Shadowed | oh |
| 23:59.46 | Shadowed | theres no svn.exe file in TortoiseSVN though, so wasn't sure if it was a seperate program =p |
