| 00:08.35 | TC-Working | no, it was HD to HD |
| 00:09.26 | TC-Working | i have 1.8 TB of storage...i was just spreading the data across them all |
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| 01:28.26 | DT__ | What was the editor people were recommending yesterday? Scite? |
| 01:29.42 | Shirik|zZz | That's what I recommend |
| 01:29.42 | DT__ | Is there anything I can download so it'll act like the WoW environment? |
| 01:33.07 | cladhaire | from wowinterface |
| 01:33.08 | cladhaire | its older |
| 01:33.10 | cladhaire | but should still work |
| 01:33.55 | DT__ | Cool, ty |
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| 01:38.44 | Corrodias | okay, this is weird. this button on my screen has an outline around it, but even using the "Frame stack" feature of devtools, mousing over the outline does not show any frame beneath it |
| 01:38.58 | Corrodias | as if it's a texture being drawn off a frame |
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| 01:43.33 | Mortius | quick question: Is there anyway to detect when you have a marker (yellow dot) on your mini-map, so you could possibly play a sound? Like if I get near a mine, I would like it to make a noise because i dont pay attention to my mini-map that much. |
| 01:43.56 | Thunder_Child | ~moo |
| 01:43.57 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 01:48.16 | Shirik | Mortius: No |
| 01:48.27 | Shirik | The UI has very little control over the minimap |
| 01:48.53 | Corrodias | or rather, we have very few ways to interact with it |
| 01:51.03 | Mortius | okay, thanks shirik :) |
| 01:51.15 | Mortius | thats what I thought, but I wanted to make sure. |
| 01:51.52 | Mortius | take care all. |
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| 02:32.07 | Corrodias | seems i may have a patch of psoriasis on my leg... although a very small one |
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| 02:45.13 | Thunder_Child | GG you loose |
| 02:45.19 | Thunder_Child | Lose* |
| 03:00.50 | Corrodias | :( |
| 03:02.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 03:02.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sad now |
| 03:02.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | tseric quit/got fired :[ |
| 03:02.22 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:02.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was getting moderator burnout |
| 03:02.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i like my mods bitter and cruel |
| 03:02.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | makes things more interesting |
| 03:03.31 | Corrodias | tseric? the guy who said enhancement isn't for endgame? |
| 03:03.36 | Thunder_Child | / agree |
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| 03:05.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | Tseric is now pursuing other opportunities and we wish him the best in his future endeavors. |
| 03:05.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
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| 03:05.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | he would make a good mod |
| 03:05.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe not a great cm |
| 03:06.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think coreiel is too nice |
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| 03:18.20 | Kaydeethree | waitasec... did he seriously get fired for that stunt? |
| 03:18.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope not, but it's entirely possible |
| 03:19.15 | Shirik | so explai me |
| 03:19.22 | Shirik | I never figured ito ut |
| 03:19.23 | Shirik | what did he do? |
| 03:19.24 | Corrodias | attempt to find 'this' in non-framescript object |
| 03:19.26 | Corrodias | what the hell |
| 03:19.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | either way, the trolls got the last laugh |
| 03:19.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 03:19.33 | Shirik | Don't use "this"!!! |
| 03:19.40 | Corrodias | i ran GetWidth() |
| 03:19.45 | Corrodias | on a texture |
| 03:19.52 | Shirik | did you do this:GetWidth() ? |
| 03:19.53 | Kaydeethree | shirik: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/102816485.htm |
| 03:20.02 | Shirik | k in BF atm I'll check it later, thanks :) |
| 03:20.05 | Corrodias | no, AspectedButton1NormalTexture:GetWidth() |
| 03:20.59 | Shirik | that's... odd |
| 03:21.09 | Shirik | code? |
| 03:21.30 | Corrodias | that's it. /dump AspectedButton1NormalTexture:GetWidth() |
| 03:21.40 | Corrodias | "aspected again" is an addon that made that button with that texture |
| 03:21.59 | Shirik | odd |
| 03:22.10 | Corrodias | i can show you more later, if you'd like |
| 03:22.12 | Corrodias | for now i'm in ohb |
| 03:24.12 | Xuerian | Y'know, reading this, it makes me said Tseric is gone, even though I didn't post on the forums |
| 03:25.47 | Bleeter | damnit, certain WoW mod website's banned me for using an 'unknown browser' (elinks) |
| 03:25.53 | Bleeter | not WoWI ;) |
| 03:26.36 | Bleeter | really dumb thing about this, is that elinks is the best option I have for setting up my own website that this upstream bunch of monkies produce |
| 03:26.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to tell this certain wow mod website i'm using Mozilla Interwebs Exploder 9.0 |
| 03:27.19 | Corrodias | ban you for using a browser it doesn't know? |
| 03:27.35 | Bleeter | Corrodias: yup |
| 03:27.59 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:28.05 | Shirik | ooh |
| 03:28.08 | Shirik | I wonder if it's ui.worldofwar? |
| 03:28.20 | Shirik | part of their effort to stop WUU? |
| 03:28.36 | zenzelezz | WUU? |
| 03:28.48 | Shirik | some updater that was supposedly killing their bandwidth |
| 03:28.49 | ckknight | WoW UI Updater |
| 03:28.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:29.14 | Bleeter | well, as I don't know the site's reputation, and because I'm only doing this 'coz my GM asked me too (not because I've heard 'good' or 'bad' things about the authors), I have no hesitation in naming and shaming WoWRoster |
| 03:29.22 | ckknight | clearly, WoW UI Updater will now have to fake itself as IE :-P |
| 03:30.01 | Shirik | relying on the USER_AGENT is as bad as encrypting passwords with ROT13 :P |
| 03:30.09 | Bleeter | can't even hit their freakin' mirrors up |
| 03:30.55 | Bleeter | all this 'coz my GM's too freakin lazy to search through his SVs to find my new blue shield |
| 03:31.07 | Bleeter | 'it's somewhere on one of my alts' |
| 03:31.18 | Bleeter | 'bout time you did us a WoWRoster page, bleet' aaargh |
| 03:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i always forget to turn my useragent back |
| 03:33.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'm like "Why is everything broken?" |
| 03:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a couple days |
| 03:33.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then i realize that most sites aren't a big fan of Mozillasoft Interwebs Exploder 994.0 |
| 03:33.58 | Shirik | uh |
| 03:34.13 | Kaydeethree | lmao |
| 03:35.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | ufh |
| 03:36.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | that site is what happens when php eats too many tacos |
| 03:36.51 | Shirik | rofl |
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| 03:40.06 | Fin | cladhaire: little bug in LightHeaded - /qfind's usage text says "/qfind category", it should be "/qfind cat" |
| 03:40.20 | cladhaire | can you post it on googlecode? |
| 03:40.23 | Fin | sure |
| 03:40.26 | cladhaire | hopefully i'll get a chacne to take a look at it this wekeend |
| 03:40.27 | cladhaire | appreciate it :P |
| 03:40.35 | cladhaire | may be adding a bunch of features this weekend |
| 03:40.38 | cladhaire | if i can figure out how i want to do em |
| 03:40.39 | Fin | not exactly crashing my client :) |
| 03:40.46 | Shirik | yes it is! |
| 03:40.50 | Shirik | it's obviously urgent bug! |
| 03:40.59 | Fin | please can I have some of your drugs, Shirik |
| 03:41.01 | Shirik | mark priority urgent, importance critical |
| 03:41.07 | Fin | please |
| 03:41.12 | Shirik | hey, it's what everyone else does on bug reports :/ |
| 03:41.23 | Fin | it must be so nice in your world |
| 03:41.25 | cladhaire | you can't mark priority on googlecode |
| 03:41.26 | cladhaire | :P |
| 03:41.29 | Shirik | meh |
| 03:41.37 | cladhaire | _I_ can |
| 03:41.38 | cladhaire | you cant :P |
| 03:41.40 | Shirik | ah |
| 03:41.54 | Shirik | see I always only seen the developer side |
| 03:42.00 | Fin | cladhaire: quick pointer to the gcode URL, please? I can't see it from the LightHeaded WoWi page |
| 03:42.01 | Shirik | never used someone else's googlecode site |
| 03:42.10 | cladhaire | code.google.com/p/wow-lightheaded |
| 03:42.27 | Fin | ta |
| 03:56.41 | Shirik | so I got MCed by this boss, right? |
| 03:56.44 | Shirik | and I start healing him |
| 03:56.48 | Shirik | and he's using lesser hea |
| 03:56.50 | Shirik | heal* |
| 03:56.50 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:56.59 | Shirik | "Your Lesser Heal heals The Maker for 204" |
| 03:57.10 | DT__ | He was downranking to conserve mana? |
| 03:57.17 | DT__ | ;) |
| 03:57.19 | Shirik | I had like full mana -_ |
| 03:58.15 | Cide | gotta play it safe in case something unexpected happens! |
| 04:10.04 | zenzelezz | it's not like the AI ever does anything bad when they MC you except burn some cooldowns |
| 04:10.20 | Shirik | didn't burn inner focus :P |
| 04:10.20 | zenzelezz | 95% of the time I get MCed on my warrior the AI starts shooting arrows |
| 04:10.29 | zenzelezz | and it'll use Perception |
| 04:10.29 | Shirik | on my hunter he blows volley |
| 04:10.31 | Shirik | on one person |
| 04:10.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:11.08 | zenzelezz | I love it during the Shadow Labs boss when a rogue tries to fight me... he can't hit me, and I do so little damage he doesn't get hurt either |
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| 04:22.58 | Mike-N-Go | To bad it does not use mind vision =P |
| 04:23.11 | Kaydeethree | melee mage ftw |
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| 04:33.23 | Corrodias | as a druid in bear form, i get a bunch of "that target is friendly" errors when mind controlled during that fight |
| 04:33.48 | Corrodias | whether it was because i was still pressing my attack buttons or the thing is trying to perform actions it can't i'm not sure |
| 04:38.03 | Corrodias | what is this "normaltexture" anyway? |
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| 04:38.32 | earthmeLon | hey hey |
| 04:38.35 | Shirik | rawr |
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| 04:38.57 | earthmeLon | Hey hey |
| 04:39.04 | Shirik | 00:39:02 earthmeLon hey hey |
| 04:39.04 | Shirik | 00:39:05 Shirik rawr |
| 04:39.16 | earthmeLon | oooh, said i oculdn't join. didn't know if it worked |
| 04:39.17 | earthmeLon | haha |
| 04:39.26 | earthmeLon | You know anything about macros Shirik? |
| 04:39.44 | Shirik | I have been told I do |
| 04:39.47 | earthmeLon | haha |
| 04:41.00 | earthmeLon | Do you know of a way to mark targets |
| 04:41.03 | earthmeLon | with raid marks? |
| 04:41.11 | Shirik | script SetRaidTargetIcon("target", x) |
| 04:41.14 | Shirik | where x is the icon you want |
| 04:41.20 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetRaidTargetIcon |
| 04:41.22 | Shirik | errr |
| 04:41.25 | Shirik | use SetRaidTarget actually |
| 04:41.28 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetRaidTarget |
| 04:41.43 | earthmeLon | <33 |
| 04:41.56 | earthmeLon | and i can put |
| 04:41.59 | earthmeLon | %f |
| 04:42.03 | earthmeLon | for the name, right? |
| 04:42.09 | Shirik | it's not a name, it's a unit ID |
| 04:42.22 | Shirik | if you want your focus, put "focus" |
| 04:42.23 | Thunder_Child | /SetRaidTarget("Shrik",Skull) |
| 04:42.31 | Shirik | no >.> |
| 04:42.37 | earthmeLon | I fkn love you |
| 04:42.39 | earthmeLon | I got it |
| 04:42.41 | earthmeLon | <333 |
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| 04:44.17 | ckknight | </3 |
| 04:45.13 | Shirik | ckknight :( |
| 04:45.18 | Shirik | he gives no love |
| 04:45.22 | Corrodias | okay... this is weird |
| 04:45.26 | ckknight | <(ºvº)> hoot. |
| 04:45.33 | Corrodias | i've set the .show method on this texture to an empty function |
| 04:45.35 | Shirik | um |
| 04:45.39 | Shirik | guessing that didn't come out right |
| 04:45.50 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:45.51 | Corrodias | i :Hide() it. running :Show() does NOT reshow it. this is as expected. |
| 04:45.59 | ckknight | Corrodias: right. |
| 04:46.02 | Corrodias | however, toggling the aspect makes the texture show again somehow |
| 04:46.03 | Shirik | I got a bunch of funky characters there |
| 04:46.12 | ckknight | Shirik: lern2utf8 |
| 04:46.15 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:46.22 | Thunder_Child | it's an owl |
| 04:46.24 | ckknight | Shirik: what client are you using? |
| 04:46.31 | Shirik | nbs-irc over mirc |
| 04:46.32 | ckknight | º is the degree symbol |
| 04:46.36 | Shirik | not for me :( |
| 04:46.41 | Corrodias | the "normaltexture" of this button appears to consist entirely of a box -around- the button which i don't want visible |
| 04:46.45 | ckknight | cause you're a lamer |
| 04:46.48 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i'm not at work so i cant see |
| 04:47.13 | Shirik | for me it's a followed by the degree symbol |
| 04:47.31 | ckknight | Shirik: œ∑´®†¥¨ˆøˆπåß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬…æΩ≈ç√∫˜µ≤≥÷‘¡™£¢∞§¶•ªº–≠`⁄€‹›fifl‡°·‚—±Œ„´‰ˇÁ¨ˆØ∏”’ÅÍÎÏ˝ÓÔÒÚƸ˛Ç◊ı˜Â¯˘¿ |
| 04:48.01 | ckknight | ...lol? |
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| 04:48.28 | Shirik | that was impressive |
| 04:48.36 | Thunder_Child | did it crash you? |
| 04:48.45 | Corrodias | i can set the normal texture to nil. that will work. >:o |
| 04:48.46 | Shirik | well I couldn't do anything so I assume so >.> |
| 04:49.01 | Shirik | it appeared and then everything stopped working :( |
| 04:49.11 | ckknight | let's do another test |
| 04:49.12 | ckknight | Shirik: œ∑´®†¥¨ˆøˆπåß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬…æΩ≈ç√∫˜µ≤≥÷‘¡™£¢∞§¶•ªº–≠`⁄€‹›fifl‡°·‚—±Œ„´‰ˇÁ¨ˆØ∏”’ÅÍÎÏ˝ÓÔÒÚƸ˛Ç◊ı˜Â¯˘¿ |
| 04:49.12 | Thunder_Child | lolz...test it again |
| 04:49.21 | Shirik | hm |
| 04:49.23 | Shirik | that time it worked |
| 04:49.24 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:49.26 | Shirik | wierd |
| 04:49.27 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 04:49.29 | ckknight | dunno, then |
| 04:49.30 | Thunder_Child | oh well...we trued |
| 04:49.34 | Thunder_Child | tried* |
| 04:49.34 | Shirik | btw does that actually say something? |
| 04:49.39 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 04:49.41 | Xuerian | Yes. |
| 04:49.43 | Xuerian | He's talking about you! |
| 04:49.48 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 04:49.49 | ckknight | no, I just held option and pressed a bunch of keys on my keyboard |
| 04:49.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:50.03 | Xuerian | Aw, damn. |
| 04:50.08 | Thunder_Child | yes i know...L2Type |
| 04:50.43 | Xuerian | Oh... don't... STOP |
| 04:50.48 | ckknight | ShÍ®Ík Ís ∂ümb |
| 04:50.54 | Shirik | -_- |
| 04:51.02 | Thunder_Child | you mean "Oh, Dont Stop |
| 04:51.03 | Thunder_Child | " |
| 04:51.13 | Shirik | fine.... if it makes you feel better |
| 04:51.15 | Xuerian | You're the one doing the eating. :P |
| 04:51.50 | Thunder_Child | yea, but not the way you would prolly like it |
| 04:52.54 | Guillotine | I come back to this? |
| 04:53.05 | Thunder_Child | yes, but your sorry |
| 04:53.26 | Thunder_Child | heh..bastard |
| 04:54.39 | Xuerian | XD |
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| 04:56.40 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:56.41 | Shirik | now try |
| 04:57.13 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.18 | Shirik | -_- |
| 04:57.23 | Shirik | I give up |
| 04:57.26 | Shirik | windows ftl |
| 04:57.31 | Xuerian | Shirik: Get a better client |
| 04:57.38 | Thunder_Child | what, it works fine for me in windows |
| 04:57.48 | Shirik | yeah but you have hax |
| 04:57.51 | Xuerian | hydrairc or miranda if you don't want a hard-core one :P |
| 04:57.53 | Thunder_Child | true |
| 04:57.53 | ckknight | you need to use UTF-8 |
| 04:58.09 | Thunder_Child | i prefer hax |
| 04:58.18 | Thunder_Child | sounds better |
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| 04:58.52 | ckknight | (—_—) .oº |
| 04:58.53 | Shirik | anyway, wendy's time |
| 05:00.01 | Xuerian | Dammit... I need new glasses >_> |
| 05:11.58 | Bleeter | Shirik|AFK: fwiw, windows frequently fails at UTF-8 because users haven't installed enough fonts (ie, incapable of proper fallback).. tho I guess it's plausible that Vista's 'fixed' this |
| 05:15.09 | ckknight | yea, Vista's fonts are good |
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| 06:09.13 | kergoth | anyone have any advice on becoming accustomed to using a nostromo n52 in wow? mine has been collecting dust for like 8 months and i decided to try it again... definately going to be an adjustment period.. |
| 06:09.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 06:09.39 | Kalman| | kergoth: Mine's been sitting for 8 months and I finally boxed it into storage, realizing I was never going to use it. |
| 06:11.26 | Corrodias | AHA |
| 06:11.50 | Corrodias | i understand! /stopcasting after rapid fire makes you stop attacking as a hunter because autoshot is cancelled with /stopcasting! |
| 06:12.14 | kergoth | Corrodias, yes, annoying |
| 06:13.04 | kergoth | Kalman|, its hard to get motivated to learn something like that, when keyboard/mouse works well enough.. |
| 06:13.27 | kergoth | but its programmability is pretty slick, being able to adjust hte device to the game instead of remapping everything in the game the way i'd normally do it |
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| 06:22.00 | Kalman| | Well, I also wound up on an x64 system, and with no drivers, the curve went from "learn to use it" to "reinstall Windows and then learn to use it", so... |
| 06:22.21 | Kalman| | Quartz is neat, but the latency embed is on the wrong side. |
| 06:23.47 | Neebler | then unembed |
| 06:24.07 | Corrodias | what |
| 06:24.38 | Kalman| | On a cast spell, if you're embedding, you'd want it on the side where the cast ends, not where it starts, to provide a visual indicator of where it's safe to stopcasting it. |
| 06:24.52 | Kalman| | I.E. the right end of the bar for casts and the left end for channels. |
| 06:25.49 | kergoth | someone already requested the ability to move it when it's embedded, not sure if nymbia's added i tyet |
| 06:26.01 | Kalman| | Excellent. thanks. |
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| 06:43.59 | Iriel | Evening all |
| 06:44.08 | Corrodias | hi |
| 06:44.12 | Shirik | evening Iriel |
| 06:44.12 | Corrodias | but now i'm going to bed. 'ni! |
| 06:44.14 | Kaydeethree | heyo |
| 06:46.58 | Shirik | hey Iriel do you mind if I ask you a java question? :( |
| 06:47.03 | Iriel | Not at all |
| 06:47.04 | Shirik | You're the only person I know that has these answers |
| 06:47.32 | Shirik | Okay, I'm still new to java multithreading so I'm picking this up as I go... and I'm getting it pretty well but this is what's bugging me... |
| 06:47.57 | Shirik | I do something like synchronized(this) { this.wait() } (obviously you would do a bit more here as you need to test this in a loop and all that but for example purposes.... |
| 06:48.18 | Shirik | now, to get out of the wait(), something needs to send a notify to the instance of that class... |
| 06:48.27 | Shirik | but to do that, you have to enter a synchronized block on that class |
| 06:48.30 | Iriel | That or interrupt the thread, yes |
| 06:48.32 | Iriel | Right |
| 06:48.35 | Shirik | but doesn't the thread that's waiting have the lock? |
| 06:48.44 | Iriel | No, the lock's suspended once wait starts |
| 06:48.48 | Shirik | ahhh |
| 06:48.53 | Shirik | ok that's what's been confusing me then >< |
| 06:48.54 | Shirik | thanks |
| 06:49.06 | Iriel | And it'll have to be re-obtained before wait returns control to the block it was in |
| 06:49.30 | Shirik | which means the lock has to be released from the thread that called notify before it will actually exit wait |
| 06:49.32 | Shirik | right? |
| 06:49.37 | Iriel | so you can guarantee execution order of instructions in the block containing the notify, and those following the wait(s) |
| 06:49.41 | Iriel | right |
| 06:49.44 | Shirik | thanks :) |
| 06:49.45 | Iriel | before ANY wait will exit |
| 06:49.52 | Iriel | Since you can have arbitrarily many |
| 06:49.57 | Shirik | right |
| 06:50.01 | Iriel | (Thus notify and notifyAll) |
| 06:50.48 | Shirik | actually yeah I use notifyAll everywhere I needed it, but I haven't come across a case yet where I'll have multiple threads waiting at the same time on the same object |
| 06:51.37 | Shirik | anyway thanks that clears that up :) |
| 06:51.39 | Iriel | Unrelated to any of this, for an almost-60 year old, Stevie Nicks is looking and sounding pretty good still these days |
| 06:51.45 | Shirik | hehe |
| 06:56.59 | Iriel | And now, I must sleep.... |
| 06:57.02 | Shirik | night |
| 06:57.04 | Iriel | Good luck with your threads |
| 06:57.37 | Shirik | it actually works I've just been wanting to know WHY it works |
| 06:57.38 | Shirik | but thanks :) |
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| 08:07.15 | Neebler | http://www.office-humour.co.uk/site/imgViewer.cfm?i=2007/03/5777.jpg |
| 08:08.02 | Shirik | rofl |
| 08:08.04 | Shirik | that's gotta suck |
| 08:14.15 | ckknight | lol, Neebler |
| 08:15.12 | Shirik | :( |
| 08:15.20 | Shirik | can someone go to http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ and tell me if they see anything >.> |
| 08:15.34 | krka | i see anything |
| 08:15.42 | Shirik | :/ it's a blank page to me |
| 08:15.43 | Shirik | wtf |
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| 09:28.18 | leethal | so.. addon communication.. >< |
| 09:28.44 | leethal | is two-way communication easy mode, or is that pretty hard-ish stuff? |
| 09:28.58 | nevcairiel | depends what you need |
| 09:29.01 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 09:29.06 | leethal | example coming up |
| 09:30.17 | nevcairiel | using the addon msg thing, its pretty easy |
| 09:30.18 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 09:30.32 | leethal | example: A warrior enables shield wall, which UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT detects. I send a message to the warrior, asking for how long the shield wall lasts (calculated based on talents etc, I need it from that particular warrior). I get a message back on how long it is, and finito. |
| 09:30.59 | nevcairiel | based on party/raid i guess? thats easy with the addon msgs |
| 09:31.00 | leethal | and of course, both me and the warrior has the addon installed =P |
| 09:31.34 | leethal | yeah, well, SendAddonMessage("AutoWhiner", "get_shield_wall", "WHISPER", "Thewarrior) |
| 09:31.46 | leethal | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.58 | nevcairiel | the WHISPER target will only work with 2.1 |
| 09:32.17 | nevcairiel | in 2.0 its only guild/party/raid |
| 09:32.18 | leethal | it won't be released very soon anyway, so that's NP |
| 09:32.23 | nevcairiel | ah oki |
| 09:32.23 | leethal | it = my addon |
| 09:32.52 | leethal | anyway, wether or not it works, sending the message to the raid is np, but how to get something in return is kind of fishy =/ |
| 09:33.00 | leethal | I guess monitoring CHAT_MSG_ADDON is the only way to do two-way? |
| 09:33.05 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:33.22 | nevcairiel | register for the event, check the prefix .. then check the msg itself |
| 09:33.27 | nevcairiel | and send back the information you need |
| 09:33.29 | leethal | lots of stuff to consider.. |
| 09:33.40 | leethal | what if the warrior lags? I need to wait a second or so to make sure of that |
| 09:33.53 | leethal | or what if the addon isn't installed and I don't get any message back at all |
| 09:34.08 | leethal | bah =P |
| 09:34.12 | nevcairiel | its a even based system, you should only react on events, not waiting for specific input |
| 09:34.17 | nevcairiel | *event based |
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| 09:34.53 | nevcairiel | so it could take a second until you see your information, but you should get it no matter what .. if the addon is not installed. . nothing :p |
| 09:35.05 | leethal | well, what if I ask for shield wall and someone else asks me for frienzied regeneration HP at the same time? |
| 09:35.25 | ckknight | use state or something |
| 09:35.27 | leethal | I can't rely on the event being fired alone |
| 09:35.35 | nevcairiel | you should obviously make the messages unique |
| 09:35.43 | nevcairiel | so that you can detect to what it is responding |
| 09:35.52 | leethal | ah, good idea |
| 09:36.05 | nevcairiel | so not only responding the time |
| 09:36.08 | nevcairiel | but a prefix |
| 09:36.13 | nevcairiel | like "sw 8" |
| 09:36.25 | nevcairiel | shieldwall 8 seconds |
| 09:37.08 | leethal | SendAddonMessage("AutoWhiner", "[5Br3OH]get_shield_wall", "WHISPER", "Thewarrior") - which gets "[5Br3OH]time" in return, perhaps |
| 09:37.19 | leethal | gibberish keys as an unique identifier |
| 09:37.32 | ckknight | potentially |
| 09:37.47 | ckknight | I made AceComm-2.0 for a reason, to handle all that garbage |
| 09:37.49 | nevcairiel | only you use those, you could even index them with simple number s.. no real need for gibberish :P |
| 09:37.49 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:38.49 | leethal | ckknight: :-O |
| 09:39.20 | leethal | but I still need to hold a couple of OnUpdates don't I? |
| 09:40.15 | leethal | oh, never mind |
| 09:40.15 | leethal | or, mind. I should probably make some rules for how long to wait for the correct CHAT_MSG_ADDON parameter before deciding that the two-way communication didn't happen? |
| 09:40.34 | nevcairiel | just say it didnt happen, until you received something :P |
| 09:42.17 | leethal | thing is, when the warrior enables last stand, I want to alert that pretty much instantly |
| 09:42.21 | leethal | so I guess that's a problem |
| 09:42.28 | nevcairiel | scan for his buffs ? :P |
| 09:42.47 | leethal | hmm, why not, actually |
| 09:42.56 | leethal | he'll be in party/raid, so that's possible I guess? |
| 09:43.02 | ckknight | yep. |
| 09:43.04 | nevcairiel | UNIT_BUFF should fire for raidmembers |
| 09:43.05 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 09:43.09 | ckknight | UNIT_AURA |
| 09:43.11 | nevcairiel | er |
| 09:43.12 | nevcairiel | right |
| 09:43.13 | leethal | ah, neat |
| 09:43.13 | ckknight | it does |
| 09:43.13 | nevcairiel | my bad |
| 09:43.29 | nevcairiel | just watch that event, and check for last stand there |
| 09:43.41 | leethal | instead of UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, gocha |
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| 10:02.35 | nangus | wow the gaim irc does work |
| 10:02.50 | Shirik | yeah I use it on linux |
| 10:02.56 | Shirik | mostly because of laziness to install anything else |
| 10:03.19 | nangus | yep |
| 10:06.01 | amro | it confuses me |
| 10:06.03 | amro | konversation ftw |
| 10:06.12 | Shirik | eew |
| 10:06.17 | Shirik | kde? |
| 10:06.56 | amro | duh |
| 10:07.01 | JunkHead-Work | gaim is nice. |
| 10:07.02 | Shirik | I recently switched from kde to gnome and haven't looked back since |
| 10:07.10 | JunkHead-Work | I've never used the irc though. |
| 10:07.17 | amro | I used to use both, now I use KDE exclusively |
| 10:07.32 | amro | gnome is nice, but not configurable enough for my tastes |
| 10:07.59 | amro | plus I use more KDE applications than GNOME applications, and for some reason kde apps in gnome keep flashing in the task bar |
| 10:18.49 | wereHamster | I don't use either.. terminals ftw :) |
| 10:35.55 | zenzelezz | I swear by Enlightenment/Xfce |
| 10:36.14 | zenzelezz | plus a dose of Eterm |
| 10:36.50 | zenzelezz | KDE made my mini-ITX cry |
| 10:37.11 | amro | I use xfce on my less-able laptop |
| 10:38.26 | Kirkburn|afk | For those who have missed the news - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/tseric-has-now-left-the-building/ and http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/05/17/reflections-on-tseric/ |
| 10:39.00 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 10:39.15 | Shirik | yeah :( |
| 10:40.05 | Kirkburn|afk | :( ... On #wowwiki: Kirkburn|afk has changed the topic to: <blah, blah, blah> Tseric, we will miss you. |
| 10:43.25 | Shirik | hm |
| 10:43.38 | Shirik | so I just read Tseric's posts that Kaydeethree linked me |
| 10:43.57 | Shirik | amusingly, that looks extremely familiar to what happened to me a year ago |
| 10:44.00 | Shirik | though it didn't get me fire |
| 10:44.01 | Shirik | fired* |
| 10:44.21 | Shirik | Though on the same note we still don't know that Tseric got fired |
| 10:44.58 | Shirik | Ah well, he's a good man I'm sure he'll find a place to go |
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| 10:49.12 | amro | I doubt he was fired... seems more like he got fed up and quit |
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| 11:04.24 | Shirik | I would too |
| 11:04.27 | Shirik | reading those damn posts all day |
| 11:04.37 | Shirik | anyway |
| 11:04.38 | Shirik | FOOD! |
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| 11:27.55 | Shirik|Fooding | oh that's awesome |
| 11:28.04 | Shirik|Fooding | SW:D procs prayer of mending |
| 11:28.22 | Shirik | so if it comes back to you you can get rid of it again by blowing SW:D ^^ |
| 11:29.17 | clad|work | yeah |
| 11:29.19 | nevcairiel | whats so bad about having prayer of mending on you ? :p |
| 11:29.20 | clad|work | lrn2preest |
| 11:29.31 | clad|work | nevcairiel: because if its on you, its not on the tank or melee =) |
| 11:29.46 | nevcairiel | clad|work: but if you use the charge, wont it be gone ? :D |
| 11:29.56 | clad|work | and you should be 40 yards away from the fight to begin with |
| 11:29.57 | JoshBork1 | yes, but you shouldn't be getting hit |
| 11:29.58 | clad|work | no |
| 11:30.00 | clad|work | it'll hop to someone else. |
| 11:30.02 | clad|work | that's why you do it |
| 11:30.17 | clad|work | if you cast it on the tank, the tank runs in.. it could bounce right to you.. if you SW:D, then it goes to someone else again |
| 11:31.04 | nevcairiel | and you have a ton of aggro .. from sw:d and from the healing :P |
| 11:31.32 | Mikk | hmm... doesn't PoM cause aggro for the one it's proccing off of? |
| 11:31.47 | Mikk | (well ok in that case it would be off the priest) |
| 11:32.18 | clad|work | yes |
| 11:32.23 | clad|work | =) |
| 11:32.33 | Mikk | sw:d some critter then =P |
| 11:32.46 | Kirkburn|afk | lol "Reduced the number of Black Dragonscales required for the warlock mount quest" |
| 11:32.54 | clad|work | k k worktime |
| 11:33.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, "Reduced the time required to skin" <-- yay |
| 12:07.32 | Shirik | this kid is a moron: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifWwpnSolOA&NR=1 |
| 12:07.37 | Shirik | "ooh I made virus lol" -_- |
| 12:07.45 | Shirik | I can't believe I wasted my life watching that |
| 12:17.33 | Kirkburn|afk | I bit of news from the Battle.net forums: "On Monday, 5/21, our Community Team (the same Community Team on our World of Warcraft Forums) will be coming over to the Battle.net forums" |
| 12:17.38 | Kirkburn|afk | *A |
| 12:18.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Seems Blizz is "merging" forum teams ... interesting time to be doing it. |
| 12:18.27 | Kirkburn|afk | (via http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1365) |
| 12:23.05 | krka | that was crappy Shirik |
| 12:23.12 | Shirik | Hey, I warned you |
| 12:23.16 | Shirik | 08:08:15 Shirik I can't believe I wasted my life watching that |
| 12:23.43 | krka | didnt know that windows used nul as /dev/null though |
| 12:23.56 | Shirik | neither did I actually |
| 12:24.02 | krka | but seriously... that was fun for like a day or two when i was 12 |
| 12:24.06 | krka | then i grew up :/ |
| 12:24.09 | Shirik | yeah |
| 12:24.20 | Shirik | then I moved on to doing the same in basic for a day or two :P |
| 12:24.29 | krka | was more fun to write a new commandline and make people think they were using the real one |
| 12:25.03 | Kirkburn|afk | I got bored when he started talking about his personal life |
| 12:25.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't f*cking care WHY you're bored. |
| 12:25.17 | Shirik | rofl |
| 12:25.29 | krka | indeed |
| 12:25.32 | Shirik | he sounds like the kind of kid who's going to make it to 18 and commit suicide |
| 12:25.35 | Shirik | hate to say it, but it's the truth |
| 12:26.35 | Shirik | I know it's kinda mean to talk like that but some people really need to think what they're doing with their life instead of acting like script kiddies 24/7 |
| 12:27.44 | krka | is that a script kiddie? |
| 12:27.48 | krka | are they really _that_ lame? |
| 12:30.27 | nevcairiel | i didnt waste my life watching that vid now, but yeah, mostly they are _that_ lame :) |
| 12:30.46 | Shirik | krka: Yeah, really |
| 12:30.58 | Shirik | you think they can actually DO anything? |
| 12:31.05 | Shirik | Hell no they just steal code from milw0rm or whatever |
| 12:31.19 | Shirik | they probably don't even know what a stack is much less how to exploit it |
| 12:31.42 | nevcairiel | they subscribe to bugtraq and use whatever code somes along |
| 12:32.00 | nevcairiel | comes* |
| 12:32.49 | Shirik | btw http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104572406&sid=1 thoughts? |
| 12:32.55 | Shirik | and on that note, going to shower, bbiab |
| 12:33.38 | krka | this is slightly more amusing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQUHE0H-km4 |
| 12:33.45 | krka | skip the end if you dont want to be annoyed for as long :) |
| 12:33.49 | krka | *to the |
| 12:33.53 | Shirik|Shower | haha you went to check his other ones?! |
| 12:34.02 | krka | yeah |
| 12:34.03 | krka | :( |
| 12:34.28 | Shirik|Shower | are you serious? |
| 12:34.33 | Shirik|Shower | changing the time? |
| 12:34.36 | Shirik|Shower | *headdesk* |
| 12:34.41 | Shirik|Shower | this isn't worth watching... time for shower |
| 12:34.52 | krka | indeed, that's why i said skip the end |
| 12:34.57 | krka | the fun thing was how he made the loop |
| 12:34.59 | krka | recursion! |
| 12:35.01 | Shirik|Shower | I can't :( |
| 12:35.13 | Shirik|Shower | school network = slow can't skip to even 50% yeyt |
| 12:35.18 | krka | oh |
| 12:35.37 | Shirik|Shower | I love how he uses ping localhost to do a pause |
| 12:36.16 | krka | yeah |
| 12:37.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:37.31 | Shirik|Shower | wtf?! |
| 12:38.09 | Shirik|Shower | he seriously re-executed the file?! |
| 12:38.19 | krka | yup |
| 12:38.21 | Shirik|Shower | "goto" exists for a reason..... |
| 12:38.41 | krka | dont think he has a very good grasp on batch files |
| 12:38.47 | Shirik|Shower | like I said |
| 12:38.49 | Shirik|Shower | script kiddie ^^ |
| 12:38.50 | Shirik|Shower | shower! |
| 12:39.00 | Industrial | less basically |
| 12:39.03 | Industrial | basically |
| 12:39.09 | krka | who makes a youtube video displaying your crappy coding skills? |
| 12:39.25 | Industrial | people that use a kde theme in windows. |
| 12:39.40 | wobin_ | >< |
| 12:39.43 | krka | heh |
| 12:39.49 | Industrial | wich is double fail, basically (:D?) |
| 12:40.14 | Shirik|Shower | ok |
| 12:40.16 | Shirik|Shower | this is worse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkZOqn7Yn44&NR=1 |
| 12:40.22 | Shirik|Shower | now seriously time for shower, promise |
| 12:40.57 | Josh_Borke | just like sleeping? |
| 12:41.10 | haste | god he types slow :( |
| 12:41.23 | krka | types @echo <looks up the next word> |
| 12:41.24 | krka | types off |
| 12:41.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, a nice selection of BBC news vids - http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6660000/newsid_6664800?redirect=6664893.stm&news=1&bbwm=1&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1 |
| 12:41.53 | Industrial | The internet - the biggest dumpster. |
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| 12:50.37 | Shirik|Shower | clad|work here? |
| 12:51.25 | Shirik|Shower | or Cairenn|afk |
| 12:51.31 | Cairenn|afk | yo? |
| 12:51.38 | Shirik|Shower | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10006 |
| 12:51.46 | Cairenn|afk | see it |
| 12:51.51 | Shirik|Shower | :) |
| 12:52.16 | Cairenn|afk | notice that his links are already broken? |
| 12:52.27 | Shirik|Shower | yeah I saw that |
| 12:52.39 | wobin_ | censored links? =) |
| 12:52.40 | Shirik|Shower | that was pretty cool :) was that automated? |
| 12:52.52 | Cairenn|afk | sec |
| 12:53.00 | sysrage | watching those youtube videos of the 'cracker' made most my braincells commit suicide |
| 12:53.12 | Shirik|Shower | sysrage: ok, next time I link something like that |
| 12:53.22 | Shirik|Shower | I'll try to make it more clear that you will want to shoot yourself after watching it |
| 12:53.23 | Shirik|Shower | :P |
| 12:53.27 | sysrage | heh |
| 12:53.45 | sysrage | what's funny is the comments on them of people saying he's l33t |
| 12:53.53 | Shirik|Shower | yeah really >.> |
| 12:54.52 | Cairenn|afk | no, it wasn't automated, he's posted before, but when we ban someone we ban them, we ban their IP addy AND we censor out their domain, so even if they spoof a new IP and create a new account, their links won't work anyway |
| 12:55.10 | Shirik|Shower | good idea :) |
| 12:55.31 | Shirik|Shower | that's kinda like what I've been doing on our site |
| 12:55.56 | Shirik|Shower | except I have it scripted so they'll be auto-banned if they're detected making a post again |
| 12:56.20 | Shirik|Shower | but I can do that, you really can't because the risk of making a false ban is far worse on your site than it is on a simple guild site like mine |
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| 12:56.54 | Shirik|Shower | but that's pretty cool :) |
| 12:56.59 | Shirik|Shower | /afk |
| 12:57.18 | Cairenn|afk | I can't wait until we get the new version of the site up, it's got a couple layers of catchpas, making it harder for spam bots |
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| 13:03.01 | zenzelezz | woot, inserting this new harddisk finally motivated me to clean up and reorganize my partitions (mostly the "documents/downloads" partition) |
| 13:03.10 | zenzelezz | been meaning to do that since I reinstalled Windows last summer |
| 13:03.36 | nevcairiel | thats quite a while |
| 13:03.50 | zenzelezz | "I don't feel like doing it now, I can do it tonight/tomorrow" |
| 13:04.21 | zenzelezz | there's always an excuse not to do it, although they're not all valid :-p |
| 13:05.04 | zenzelezz | my Downloads folder is the hardest to clean up; I keep thinking "I might need this some day", even for files I downloaded seven years ago and haven't used since |
| 13:05.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Cairenn|afk, new version of the site?! :O |
| 13:05.26 | zenzelezz | think I have a DivX 3.1 zip in there |
| 13:05.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:05.53 | Cairenn|afk | same as our EQ2, LotRO and VG sites |
| 13:06.01 | Cairenn|afk | just have WoW and EQ left to convert over |
| 13:06.09 | nevcairiel | 3.1 .. wasn that the time when divx was still an illegal ripoff of the MS mpeg4 codec ? :D |
| 13:06.16 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 13:07.34 | zenzelezz | "DivX_311alpha.zip", 27.07.2001 |
| 13:07.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Cairenn|afk, oooh, nice! |
| 13:07.40 | zenzelezz | sounds like I do need to clean the folder |
| 13:07.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Who does the artwork? |
| 13:07.59 | Cairenn|afk | all 3 of us contribute |
| 13:08.53 | Legorol | morning |
| 13:08.53 | Cairenn|afk | hi Legorol |
| 13:08.53 | Legorol | omg, i just watched those "script kiddie videos" that were linked earlier |
| 13:08.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Tis lovely :) I especially like the prominent download search box |
| 13:08.53 | Legorol | i don't know if i want to laugh or cry |
| 13:08.53 | Legorol | hi Cairenn|afk |
| 13:09.46 | Kirkburn|afk | A sort of related question - how customizable is the Lotro UI? |
| 13:10.13 | Cairenn|afk | we've left WoW to the end because it's our biggest site so we want to make sure we've got all the bugs ironed out first on our smaller sites |
| 13:10.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, good idea |
| 13:10.27 | Cairenn|afk | at the moment it's skinning of existing graphics only |
| 13:10.32 | Cairenn|afk | please note the qualification |
| 13:10.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, you mean "Existing" ;) heh |
| 13:11.02 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.lotrointerface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=588&postcount=5 |
| 13:11.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Aww, I wanted to skin the non-existing graphics :( |
| 13:11.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Interesting way of approaching it ... introduce the options over time. |
| 13:11.57 | Cairenn|afk | you're incredibly silly |
| 13:12.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye, tis true :( |
| 13:12.09 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 13:12.37 | Shirik|Shower | 09:05:47 Kirkburn|afk Cairenn|afk, new version of the site?! :O |
| 13:12.38 | Shirik|Shower | ???! |
| 13:12.40 | Kirkburn|afk | To me it sounds like more work to redo the UI that way, but I guess part of the reason is to prevent the problems of 'exploiting' that the WoW UI has had |
| 13:12.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Shirik|Shower, don't get your PC all wet! |
| 13:12.57 | Cairenn|afk | I have a feeling that a lot of the things folks have been complaining about on the existing UI will be getting some changes in the June content patch |
| 13:13.03 | Shirik|Shower | I just got out :P |
| 13:13.06 | krka | Legorol: indeed! |
| 13:13.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Nudey Shirik >_< |
| 13:13.19 | Shirik | ok |
| 13:13.23 | Shirik | I just got out and got dressed |
| 13:13.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Phew! :) |
| 13:13.45 | krka | no nudity on irc plz! |
| 13:13.49 | Shirik | lol |
| 13:13.52 | Shirik | no nudity on irc |
| 13:14.07 | Shirik | that's like saying no lawnscaping on HGTV |
| 13:14.27 | Shirik | besides |
| 13:14.32 | Shirik | don't act like you didn't want to see it Kirkburn|afk |
| 13:15.05 | Kirkburn|afk | What's HGTV and what's lawnscaping :( |
| 13:15.28 | Cairenn|afk | Home & Garden TV - landscaping |
| 13:15.36 | Shirik | landscaping, same diff :( |
| 13:15.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Aha |
| 13:15.54 | Kirkburn|afk | What about nudey landscaping on HGTV IRC? |
| 13:16.14 | Shirik | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=lawnscaping&btnG=Search |
| 13:16.17 | Shirik | see I didn't make up the word |
| 13:16.36 | Shirik | you could get some of those greek statues |
| 13:16.41 | Shirik | those are usually nudey |
| 13:16.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Bet you did. bet you just made Google create that. |
| 13:16.55 | Shirik | oh yeah I totally hacked google's servers and SQL injected all those sites |
| 13:16.59 | Shirik | along with the cached info |
| 13:17.15 | Shirik | and then I went into the root domain servers and took over each of those sites so I could actually make the websites |
| 13:17.16 | Kirkburn|afk | God, you're such a cheater |
| 13:18.33 | Kirkburn|afk | All that, just to prove a point. Some people, eh. |
| 13:19.09 | Kirkburn|afk | You couldn't just come clean and say "yes, I made up this silly word". But nooo! You had to go hack the googly-eyed monster! |
| 13:19.19 | Shirik | totally |
| 13:19.28 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn|afk: you should totalyl check his work by looking on yahoo |
| 13:19.32 | Cairenn|afk | both incredibly silly |
| 13:19.41 | Shirik | and now I will proceed to hack the mealplan database and subtract one count from my account |
| 13:19.47 | Shirik | along with stealing a breakfast |
| 13:19.49 | Shirik | all at the same time |
| 13:19.52 | Legorol | krka: awesome vids, in a painful way, but |
| 13:19.58 | Shirik | i.e, going to cafeteria bbl |
| 13:20.02 | Legorol | there are so many things he could do easier, he hasn't a clue |
| 13:20.04 | Shirik | Legorol: qq I was the one who linked those!! |
| 13:20.08 | Legorol | ah ok |
| 13:20.09 | Legorol | sorry |
| 13:20.09 | krka | Legorol: agreed |
| 13:20.10 | Shirik | I never get credit T_T |
| 13:20.14 | krka | like doing it all in lua |
| 13:20.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Josh_Borke, he hacked them too?!! The man's insatiable ... no wait, unstoppable? |
| 13:20.24 | Legorol | i mean, what the hack with the shortcut for the recursion? |
| 13:20.28 | Legorol | the bat file could just call itself :/ |
| 13:20.42 | Legorol | *heck |
| 13:20.44 | krka | that was unique yes :) |
| 13:21.35 | Legorol | at least i had the sense to read your comments first so i skipped most of the video without getting bored to hell :D |
| 13:22.04 | Legorol | on a more fun note: when exactly will the announcement of the new Blizzard game happen? |
| 13:22.31 | Josh_Borke | NOT SOON ENOUGH! |
| 13:22.37 | Legorol | lol |
| 13:22.44 | Legorol | I hope it's not a Diablo game |
| 13:22.50 | Legorol | I'm much more into the *Craft franchise |
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| 13:23.15 | Cairenn|afk | don't quote me on it, but pretty sure the announcement is coming down tonight |
| 13:23.17 | Legorol | Josh_Borke: i doubt it will be an RTS |
| 13:23.40 | Legorol | Cairenn|afk: yeah i heard it's today/tomorrow, i'm looking for exact time (with timezone) |
| 13:23.59 | Josh_Borke | WTF can't it be an RTS :-( |
| 13:24.21 | Kalman| | Being announced at a Korean gaming con, isn't it? |
| 13:24.29 | Kirkburn|afk | It's saturday morning (Korea) according to their schedule |
| 13:24.32 | zenzelezz | then it has to be SC2 |
| 13:24.40 | Legorol | Josh_Borke: because online has evolved beyond RTS |
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| 13:24.54 | Legorol | it might be a new generation massive online cooperative RTS ;-) |
| 13:24.59 | Legorol | whatever that is |
| 13:25.03 | Legorol | just sounds cool |
| 13:25.16 | zenzelezz | sounds like, what was it called, Shattered Galaxy |
| 13:25.24 | Kalman| | Shattered Galaxy, yeah. |
| 13:25.37 | Kalman| | My radio station got like 20 free copies of that game. |
| 13:25.42 | Kalman| | I don't think we gave away any of them. |
| 13:25.48 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 13:26.08 | Kalman| | I wonder if the copy I left in the GM's office is still there. |
| 13:26.55 | Legorol | you just did! |
| 13:26.56 | zenzelezz | your silences are thundering |
| 13:26.58 | Legorol | you said nothing |
| 13:27.14 | Cairenn|afk | precisely, I just said nothing |
| 13:27.23 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 13:27.34 | zenzelezz | something like +8 or +9 I guess |
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| 13:27.42 | Legorol | looks like +8 GMT |
| 13:27.44 | Josh_Borke | quick! quiet! |
| 13:27.53 | Kirkburn|afk | So yeah, it'll be late night US time |
| 13:28.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Early morning UK time :( |
| 13:28.05 | Cairenn|afk | okay, I'm out, time to go to physio - later guys |
| 13:28.09 | Kirkburn|afk | See ya |
| 13:28.11 | Josh_Borke | bb Cairenn|afk |
| 13:28.11 | Legorol | see you |
| 13:28.14 | Legorol | let's go with 10am |
| 13:28.15 | Josh_Borke | hope it helps :-) |
| 13:28.32 | Cairenn|afk | getting there, slowly, but getting there |
| 13:28.37 | Legorol | then it's 2am GMT, 7pm PDT |
| 13:28.59 | Legorol | ow i got the timezones wrong a bit >.< shame on me |
| 13:29.11 | Legorol | Korea is +9 GMT, not +8 |
| 13:29.27 | krka | i really should get started on implementing call frames |
| 13:29.38 | krka | have to get that really solid before i even start with coroutines |
| 13:29.39 | Legorol | ok so if 10 am Korea, then 1am GMT, 2am UK, 6pm PDT |
| 13:29.49 | krka | i can't make my game ai without coroutines |
| 13:29.51 | Legorol | krka: Kahlua? |
| 13:29.57 | krka | yeah |
| 13:30.04 | krka | i have my actor-ai defined in my head |
| 13:30.23 | krka | the actor has a function for .. well, acting, and it should yield after each game frame |
| 13:30.29 | krka | that should make it fairly easy to work with |
| 13:30.50 | krka | the game just has to resume each actor and then repaint |
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| 14:00.34 | Xuerian | krka: What game are you making? 0.o |
| 14:00.53 | krka | not decided yet |
| 14:01.02 | krka | the important thing is implementing coroutines |
| 14:01.06 | krka | a game is just my excuse |
| 14:01.14 | Xuerian | :p |
| 14:01.39 | krka | i'll try to make as simple a game as possible |
| 14:01.42 | krka | just to test it |
| 14:03.46 | zenzelezz | there's nothing I hate more than fiddling around inside my computer, closing it back up and then hearing crancky noises... from outside |
| 14:03.54 | zenzelezz | freaks me out until I notice they're not from my computer |
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| 14:07.23 | Shirik|Ecole | Use threads! |
| 14:07.34 | Shirik|Ecole | it's the simple answer :D |
| 14:11.39 | krka | yes, it's the simplest way |
| 14:11.46 | krka | and has a couple of advantages |
| 14:11.57 | krka | i.e. yielding across the java stack |
| 14:12.00 | Shirik|Ecole | to quote andromeda |
| 14:12.09 | Shirik|Ecole | "The simple solution is most often the correct one" |
| 14:12.23 | Shirik|Ecole | and that's probably a quote from somewhere else I don't know :P |
| 14:12.28 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah it has disadvantages |
| 14:13.04 | krka | i wonder if java automatically uses the same "hardware" thread if they take turns being active |
| 14:14.22 | krka | coroutines are known for being extremely light weight though |
| 14:14.39 | krka | i should be able to have one coroutine per actor without worrying about it |
| 14:15.00 | krka | actually, i just realized another problem with using threads |
| 14:15.02 | krka | garbage collection |
| 14:15.12 | krka | I won't be able to garbage collect a paused thread... i think |
| 14:15.33 | Shirik|Ecole | really depends on how you implement it |
| 14:15.41 | Shirik|Ecole | as does a lot of this :P |
| 14:15.44 | Shirik|Ecole | You should probably ignore myself |
| 14:15.46 | Shirik|Ecole | my advice* |
| 14:15.50 | krka | let's say i create / resume a coroutine and it yields |
| 14:15.57 | krka | then i never resume it again to let it finish |
| 14:16.01 | krka | and drop the reference |
| 14:16.11 | krka | how can java know it's safe to garbage collect it? |
| 14:16.18 | Shirik|Ecole | you can interrupt the thread |
| 14:16.32 | krka | what do you mean? |
| 14:16.53 | Shirik|Ecole | for a Thread t, t.interrupt() |
| 14:17.03 | krka | right, but when would i want to do that? |
| 14:17.51 | Shirik|Ecole | if a thread t is in a waiting state (Which is how I would implement a yield), interruption would throw a java.lang.InterruptedException from wait() which you can catch way down at the end. This will essentially kill the thread, which is what you want to do, right? |
| 14:18.01 | Shirik|Ecole | You would do it when you notice that the reference to the coroutine has been lost |
| 14:18.25 | Shirik|Ecole | or are you relying on java to track references for you, instead of doing it yourself? |
| 14:18.35 | krka | how would i notice that the reference is lost? |
| 14:18.41 | krka | yes, i'm using pure java gc |
| 14:18.45 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
| 14:18.49 | Shirik|Ecole | then yeah that would be an issue |
| 14:18.52 | krka | could use weak references i suppose |
| 14:18.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't think java would GC a thread |
| 14:18.56 | krka | in my own little table of threads |
| 14:19.01 | krka | me neither |
| 14:19.23 | krka | it would have to check that nothing holds a reference to the object that the thread is waiting on |
| 14:19.26 | krka | i am not sure it does that |
| 14:19.37 | krka | but theoretically it could |
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| 14:40.35 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 14:40.36 | Shirik|Ecole | krka |
| 14:40.38 | Shirik|Ecole | what about |
| 14:40.50 | Shirik|Ecole | if you made a class that extends Thread? |
| 14:41.00 | Shirik|Ecole | you could then implement a destructor for Thread |
| 14:41.09 | Shirik|Ecole | which will interrupt the thread if it is running |
| 14:43.11 | Shirik|Ecole | protected void finalize() throws Throwable { try { this.interrupt(); } finally { super.finalize(); } } |
| 14:43.52 | Shirik|Ecole | anyway, off to my test |
| 14:43.53 | Shirik|Ecole | good luck |
| 14:48.11 | krka | i dont have access to finalize |
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| 15:56.00 | Malakor | can a lua file dunamically load another lua file of variables and then remove the variables from memory when the function is complete? |
| 15:56.08 | Malakor | dynamically* |
| 15:56.10 | __Aella | Nope, only on UI reload. |
| 15:56.29 | cogwheel|work | You could make a LoadOnDemand addon and load it from the main addon |
| 15:56.33 | Malakor | hrmmm |
| 15:56.58 | Malakor | im trying to stare a large amount of variables but not have them all load at once |
| 15:57.04 | Malakor | store* |
| 15:57.13 | Malakor | sheesh can't type today |
| 15:57.26 | __Aella | A LoD add-on would work best, but you still can't unload them without a UI reload. |
| 15:57.29 | cogwheel|work | The only way you can load Lua files is through the .toc or .xml files |
| 15:57.49 | Malakor | well that shoots that idea to hell :) |
| 15:58.03 | cogwheel|work | "but you still can't unload them" <----- But you can set all the variables to nil so they get GCed |
| 15:58.11 | Malakor | my kingdom for database functionality |
| 15:58.17 | __Aella | Well, yes, you could. |
| 15:58.25 | cogwheel|work | as long as you're not creating any frames, nothing should be left hanging around |
| 15:58.29 | __Aella | At which point you can't reload hem without another UI reload. |
| 15:58.39 | __Aella | *them |
| 15:58.39 | cogwheel|work | yep :) |
| 15:58.46 | Malakor | problem is I will load 15000+ variables all at once |
| 15:58.57 | Malakor | memory is a problem |
| 16:00.14 | Malakor | well shat |
| 16:00.25 | cogwheel|work | There's really no two ways about it, I'm afraid... Going the LoD route is the best you're gonna get. |
| 16:00.43 | Malakor | thought I had something there......once again shot down by the limitations of lua and the wow api :( |
| 16:00.43 | cogwheel|work | at least that way you won't hamper initial load times too much |
| 16:02.39 | Malakor | ok thanks fo rthe info....guess Ill keep playing with the idea and see if I can think of a benifical workaround to the problem |
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| 16:26.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | not working :argh: |
| 16:27.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | on *:notice:*NickServ IDENTIFY*:*: { if ($nick == Nickserv) { id } } |
| 16:27.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and id is my alias to identify |
| 16:27.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i don't ever actually type the password and accidentally forget a slash or something :p |
| 16:28.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's try that one more time |
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| 16:29.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay there we go, done join spamming |
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| 16:30.37 | cogwheel|work | liar |
| 16:30.41 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 16:31.14 | TC-Working | SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! |
| 16:31.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that one is my desktop |
| 16:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i'm making his script work :p |
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| 16:32.16 | TC-Working | i found it's easier just to not log off |
| 16:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i got disconnected |
| 16:32.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the ghost dropping is like |
| 16:32.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | evil |
| 16:32.43 | TC-Working | mmm....evil |
| 16:32.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | takes like forever for a ghost to drop |
| 16:32.50 | *** join/#wowi-lounge TC_Working (n=Thunder_@38.118.158.211) |
| 16:32.56 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | DOPPLEGANGERS |
| 16:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 16:33.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if i don't tab back to mirc i hear beep beep beep beep nonstop |
| 16:33.27 | TC-Working | for me, sound = OFF |
| 16:33.29 | TC-Working | always |
| 16:33.30 | Kaydeethree | meh, I miss SysReset back when I used mIRC |
| 16:33.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have it on for highlighting |
| 16:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than that i'm good |
| 16:33.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i knew what this was: |
| 16:33.52 | cogwheel|work | What exactly is the benefit of being logged in 24/7? (at least in channels where ibot keeps logs...) |
| 16:34.01 | zenzelezz | sound = off, colors/bold/underline/reverse = off |
| 16:34.03 | TC-Working | i like my own logs |
| 16:34.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | Mr_Rabies2 Nickname is already in use. |
| 16:34.26 | TC-Working | it is in use...your useing it |
| 16:34.30 | Kaydeethree | because I never turn off my computer? why kill xchat needlessly? |
| 16:34.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | no i mean |
| 16:34.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i knew what it was called |
| 16:34.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i could script it to autoghost |
| 16:34.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | on that |
| 16:34.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not a notice, it's not a privmsg |
| 16:35.14 | TC-Working | query? |
| 16:35.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | query = privmsg in a new window, right? |
| 16:35.38 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 16:35.40 | TC-Working | depends on your client |
| 16:36.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're in new windows for me and this isn't |
| 16:36.19 | Kaydeethree | it's a system message. I don't remember how to hook up the .mrc scripts to listen to those |
| 16:36.52 | zenzelezz | "Nickname already in use" is usually a notice or server notice |
| 16:36.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | time to browse the help file |
| 16:37.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not a regular notice |
| 16:37.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | my notices are pink |
| 16:37.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is just white |
| 16:37.33 | zenzelezz | notice and server notice are different things |
| 16:39.30 | zenzelezz | from what I can see on my screen, NickServ seems to use normal notices, but I haven't look thoroughly |
| 16:39.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it uses them, but this isn't from nickserv |
| 16:39.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just says that above the motd and stuff |
| 16:39.57 | Kaydeethree | it's a message from the server itself |
| 16:41.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i might be able to do on error |
| 16:42.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | for example, in the help files |
| 16:42.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | on 1:ERROR:*banned*:/echo I'm banned from this server *mumble*! |
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| 16:43.26 | End | It's just a message from the server itself it looks like |
| 16:43.39 | End | I tried connecting directly and got: |
| 16:43.40 | End | :sterling.freenode.net 433 * End :Nickname is already in use. |
| 16:44.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmmm |
| 16:44.03 | End | I'm not all that familiar with the irc protocol though |
| 16:44.26 | Kaydeethree | rfc:1149 |
| 16:44.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the number thing for it? |
| 16:44.47 | Kaydeethree | that's the rfc that describes the irc spec |
| 16:44.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 16:44.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was reading about raw events and stuff |
| 16:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | was thinking it may be one of those |
| 16:45.07 | End | wrong one |
| 16:45.08 | Kaydeethree | you'd have to turn on /debug to see what event number is passed |
| 16:45.16 | End | you want rfc1459 |
| 16:45.27 | Kaydeethree | bah |
| 16:45.30 | End | unless you are connecting to irc via "avian carriers" |
| 16:45.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe i am okay >:[ |
| 16:45.41 | Kaydeethree | tcp/cp is fun |
| 16:45.50 | End | (in which case you'll still need rfc1459, but you'll need to consult rfc1149 first) |
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| 16:46.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 16:46.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | lets see |
| 16:46.33 | End | (I was wondering why the rfc you linked and the one I was already looking at didn't match...) |
| 16:46.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | ran a debug |
| 16:47.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
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| 16:48.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | <- :calvino.freenode.net 433 * Mr_Rabies2 :Nickname is already in use. |
| 16:48.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's 433 |
| 16:51.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay it could be on snotice, heh |
| 16:51.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | let's see |
| 16:52.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | one more join spam hopefully |
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| 16:53.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | arghghghf |
| 16:54.58 | Nerinia | Mr_Rabies2 zombie? *panic* |
| 16:56.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | braaaaains |
| 16:57.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of zombies, all of you must go see 28 weeks later |
| 16:57.24 | Nerinia | weeks? Not days? |
| 16:57.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | well see that first if you haven't |
| 16:57.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | 28 weeks later is the sequel :O |
| 16:57.54 | Nerinia | Oh :) |
| 16:58.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's in theaters now over here |
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| 16:59.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i know they're not really zombies but close enough |
| 16:59.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 16:59.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | more like really pissed off feral humans |
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| 17:02.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | one more try real quick |
| 17:02.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | until i get some professional help with this dumb thing |
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| 17:02.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 17:03.05 | Kaydeethree | look in to how a setup like Sysreset does it? www.sysreset.com |
| 17:03.45 | Shirik | ooh |
| 17:03.48 | Shirik | I used to use sysreset |
| 17:03.51 | Shirik | it was awesome |
| 17:04.07 | zenzelezz | couldn't you just check for a "connected" message and check if your nick is what you want it to be? |
| 17:05.19 | Kaydeethree | welp... 12 hours til the sc2 announcement |
| 17:05.37 | haste | what will happen when it's lost vikings 3? |
| 17:05.58 | Kaydeethree | the entire gaming community drops a brick |
| 17:06.07 | haste | :D |
| 17:06.08 | zenzelezz | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20070516 |
| 17:06.33 | Shirik | Damn cogwheel|work! |
| 17:06.33 | Shirik | "All I can say is GTFO if you're not going to listen to numerous experienced addon authors." |
| 17:06.33 | Shirik | cruel today :P |
| 17:06.44 | cogwheel|work | =D |
| 17:06.46 | haste | zenzelezz: lol :D |
| 17:06.47 | Kaydeethree | zen; hahaha |
| 17:07.56 | Kalman|radio | Shirik: Link. I need some evil. |
| 17:08.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Link me his latest post? |
| 17:08.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to laugh a bit |
| 17:08.36 | Shirik | Kaydeethree: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102938574&sid=1 |
| 17:08.36 | Shirik | er |
| 17:08.39 | Shirik | Kalman|radio: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102938574&sid=1 |
| 17:10.47 | Kalman|radio | Man. Cogwheel, you weren't even remotely nice about it. |
| 17:10.48 | Kalman|radio | Well done. |
| 17:11.18 | Kalman|radio | I pre-programmed too much of my playlist today, I'm getting bored. :/ |
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| 17:17.31 | Kaydeethree | oh, hrm. part 2 of the background downloader's up |
| 17:19.38 | cogwheel|work | hahah http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104571918&postId=1041765926&sid=1#14 |
| 17:20.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I may have to contribute to that thread |
| 17:20.22 | Kaydeethree | oh geez |
| 17:20.33 | Kaydeethree | that's just excessive |
| 17:20.36 | haste | haha |
| 17:20.55 | __Aella | I actually like that UI somewhat better than some other minimalist UIs. |
| 17:21.09 | cogwheel|work | If they had used CTViewport it would make a bit more sense but ... |
| 17:21.48 | __Aella | I don't really understand what CT_Viewport is actually useful for—yay, we block off part of the screen. Only benefit I can see is FPS boost. |
| 17:22.18 | Kaydeethree | geez... all I have to do is see his name and I'm reminded of http://firemawchant.ytmnd.com |
| 17:23.01 | foxlit | It resizes the rendering area rather than allowing some of your UI to block it off |
| 17:23.08 | Aella | Yeah… |
| 17:23.13 | Aella | Which does… what? |
| 17:23.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Now where to upload... |
| 17:23.31 | Aella | (Prettiness-wise, I mean.) |
| 17:23.55 | cogwheel|work | Aella: it doesn't block it off it actually shrinks the rendering area so you *don't* block off any of the action |
| 17:24.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | one final try |
| 17:24.02 | Cide | what cogwheel|work said :) |
| 17:24.07 | Kalman|radio | The only thing I hate about viewporting is that it shifts your character from center-screen. |
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| 17:24.11 | Aella | Ah! It all makes sense now. |
| 17:24.18 | cogwheel|work | Kalman|radio: that's the whole point though :P |
| 17:24.38 | Kalman|radio | I know. |
| 17:24.41 | Kalman|radio | I hate the point of it. :p |
| 17:24.42 | foxlit | To the center of your ui-free screen, though? |
| 17:24.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got it |
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| 17:26.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, I contributed to that thread! |
| 17:26.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=104571918&postId=1042264728&sid=1#16 |
| 17:27.01 | cogwheel|work | ScytheBlade1: did you see my reply in upcoming 2.2 changes? ;) |
| 17:27.12 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel|work, I fear |
| 17:27.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, phew, I wasn't flamed relentlessly |
| 17:27.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I actually use that |
| 17:27.33 | Neebler | <- Hag |
| 17:27.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It auto restocks for me, it's nice :) |
| 17:27.52 | Guillotine | Scythe:what is that MainTank mod? been trying to find it >< |
| 17:27.52 | ScytheBlade1 | But there are still times when just plain buying a stack would be nice |
| 17:27.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | next chunk of the patch hit sometime recently |
| 17:27.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | today i'm guessing |
| 17:28.04 | Kaydeethree | something like that |
| 17:28.06 | cogwheel|work | ScytheBlade1: you're thinking of BuyDropper... BuyEmAll is different... |
| 17:28.10 | Kaydeethree | good thing azu got it in 5 minutes flat |
| 17:28.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | only 20 mb, for a total of 269 MB so far |
| 17:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine, er? Never heard of MainTank mod. Sure you're looking at my screenshot? (Sbo) |
| 17:28.30 | Kaydeethree | not even... "Remaining: Finished in 4m 10s" |
| 17:28.34 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel|work, that's what I get for skimming over your post in a half second. |
| 17:28.45 | Guillotine | nm. was looking at the one cog was quoting and laughing at |
| 17:29.08 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel|work, curse you for having all of the good addons! |
| 17:30.49 | cogwheel|work | *RESIST* |
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| 17:32.28 | Guillotine | hmm. where do you guys think a suggestion for a dynamic tone function would go? UI forums sound like the right place? (e.g. PlayTone(frequency,volume,duration) ) |
| 17:32.46 | Cide | most likely |
| 17:32.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine, I might hate you forever and all time if that goes in, but I can see how it'd be useful |
| 17:32.58 | cogwheel|work | Guillotine: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&sid=1 |
| 17:33.24 | Cide | if they add that, I'm gonna start licensing my own in-game songs |
| 17:33.29 | Guillotine | cogwheel: was just looking at that :) Was just wondering if you guys thought it would be considered UI related or something that should just go in the suggestions forums |
| 17:33.32 | ScytheBlade1 | No joke |
| 17:33.49 | Guillotine | personally, I play nearly completely by sound. But that means I have WAY too many sound files loaded |
| 17:34.00 | Cide | wow, really? |
| 17:34.03 | Guillotine | I'd much rather just have a different frequency tone each time I get a combo point |
| 17:34.23 | Cide | I have a hard time picking up the meaning of a lot of different sounds in intense combat |
| 17:34.27 | Guillotine | Cide: when dpsing, yes. When healing, not quite as much |
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| 17:34.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I play pretty much all by sound too |
| 17:34.36 | cogwheel|work | Guillotine: there are a few other sound-related API requests in there, so I wouldn't really object to adding it |
| 17:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Which sucks, as I can't get vent working under linux, and then if I take vent I'm gimped in game :/ |
| 17:35.36 | Kaydeethree | as long as you've got alsa working properly and are telling wine to use alsa, it works |
| 17:35.49 | ScytheBlade1 | On 64-bit? |
| 17:35.50 | Kaydeethree | wow+wine+xmms2+mplayer all happily coexist |
| 17:35.53 | Kaydeethree | oh, dunno there |
| 17:35.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. One detail in the mix. |
| 17:36.02 | Cide | I'll just have to make a program to convert all of my mp3s to a long table of PlayTone calls... |
| 17:36.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever I hit "Connect" the server sees me join |
| 17:36.25 | ScytheBlade1 | And the client UI locks up completly |
| 17:37.05 | Kaydeethree | do you have winecfg using alsa or oss? |
| 17:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't even have OSS support in this kernel |
| 17:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | So ALSA :) |
| 17:38.54 | Shirik | OSS hates my computer |
| 17:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | OSS needs to die |
| 17:39.28 | ScytheBlade1 | So that TS will get proper ALSA support, and I can at least have SOMETHING |
| 17:40.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, once WoW has it's voice comm, I'll be happy. |
| 17:41.01 | Kaydeethree | coming in 2.2 according to mac tech support |
| 17:41.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Finally |
| 17:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll make my life (and many others) easy |
| 17:41.55 | Guillotine | Alright, the suggestion is posted in Cog's suggestion thread (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101150523&postId=1042264925&sid=1#30) |
| 17:42.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay, what's up with npcs occasionally talking without being clicked on :O |
| 17:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | this one in shatt just said "do you require medication?" |
| 17:43.13 | Kaydeethree | a bunch of the shat npcs will say something if you walk by |
| 17:43.23 | Kaydeethree | mainly griftah |
| 17:43.53 | Guillotine | <3 Griftah |
| 17:44.04 | Kaydeethree | yay for blizzard-sanctioned idiot taxes |
| 17:44.04 | Guillotine | I bought the most expensive one on the PTR during beta |
| 17:44.14 | Guillotine | got so many comments |
| 17:44.15 | Shirik | 13:44:34 Kaydeethree yay for blizzard-sanctioned idiot taxes |
| 17:44.15 | Guillotine | good times |
| 17:44.16 | Shirik | ? |
| 17:44.19 | Kaydeethree | griftah |
| 17:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | no i mean |
| 17:44.42 | Kaydeethree | and memories of all the bitch posts in general once players realized they'd been had |
| 17:44.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | audible |
| 17:44.46 | Guillotine | Shirik: that idiots waste money buying those items from Griftah in shat :P E.g. the Soap on a Rope or the item that lets you heal yourself by eating |
| 17:44.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | not just NPC says: blah blah |
| 17:45.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | he just said "even the patience of a draenei has its limits" |
| 17:45.31 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:45.31 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 17:45.35 | Shirik | Those things are awesome |
| 17:46.47 | Guillotine | I don't think they should be all necklaces. I think they should each be a different type of armor. Then you could have a full set to show how much you can waste money :D |
| 17:46.53 | Guillotine | not that I could get it, but... |
| 17:46.58 | Kaydeethree | that'd be awesome |
| 17:47.08 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.11 | Shirik | could look like Jay Z |
| 17:47.21 | Shirik | you should be able to see the necklaces and chains |
| 17:47.31 | Shirik | make it some 25 lb hunk of gold |
| 17:50.21 | Guillotine | definately |
| 17:51.22 | Guillotine | they still havn't taken my suggestion to give druids an ability to tame critters as non-combat pets :( Far more important than the OOC rez everyone is asking for imo |
| 17:52.08 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:52.10 | Josh_Borke | i agree |
| 17:52.12 | nevcairiel | that would be great |
| 17:54.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | Garb of the Fool Pitier 4/12 |
| 17:56.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | (2)Set: Fools in the area gain the "Pitied" effect, lowering their stats by 5% |
| 17:56.13 | Shirik | rofl |
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| 17:59.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | (12)Set: Wearer gains Blessing of the T, changing your appearance and improving your stats by 3%. Stun immunity. |
| 18:00.24 | Industrial | ugh |
| 18:00.33 | Industrial | (always good when it starts with ugh) |
| 18:00.39 | Industrial | I need to buy a drumkit. |
| 18:01.13 | Industrial | I'm always nerotically "making beats" (and im not creative, its always the same one) and its anoying me. |
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| 18:08.33 | Gnarfoz | better just to take your pills |
| 18:08.34 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 18:14.22 | kergoth | anyone around that uses a nostromo n52 in wow? |
| 18:15.08 | TC-Working | people have enough trouble with a keyboard/mouse combo..no need to add to the troubles of crappy players |
| 18:15.25 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:15.57 | kergoth | i'm just trying to decide how best to adapt to it, given i play multiple classes... it'd be annoying to have one profile for the device for each class.. but that's probably the o nly way to really take advantage of it best |
| 18:16.04 | TC-Working | i didnt know what it was till i did a bit of research...wouldnt it be better for FPS? |
| 18:16.11 | kergoth | otherwise i guess i could just ensure that everything is bound to actionbuttons, so i can switch them around |
| 18:16.24 | kergoth | yeah people use it for fps's a lot, but i hear quite a few wow players use it too |
| 18:16.34 | kergoth | roguespot has a rogue specific profile up on their site |
| 18:17.29 | TC-Working | huh...interesting |
| 18:18.22 | kergoth | basically gives you 15 buttons, a scrollwheel, in addition to th e directional pad (which you can either use for movement, or remap the various directions to abilities), and a "shift" key that can switch the behavior of every key into up to 4 different states |
| 18:18.33 | kergoth | naturally for wow you only really need the base 15 :) |
| 18:18.50 | TC-Working | not really...i would use one for dps and one for healing |
| 18:18.55 | TC-Working | hmm.... |
| 18:18.57 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: remap number pad |
| 18:19.19 | TC-Working | well i have a G15 so i suppose i could do similar |
| 18:19.27 | kergoth | Josh_Borke, what do ya mean? |
| 18:19.42 | Shirik | on my G15 I use all three modes |
| 18:19.42 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: make the n52 keys map to number pad entries, then give them action ids in wow |
| 18:19.46 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:19.58 | Shirik | G1-G12 is bound to various skills on M1-3 |
| 18:19.59 | Josh_Borke | then it's easy to change it around in game |
| 18:20.09 | TC-Working | but the G keys on the G15 remap other keys....makes me sad |
| 18:20.14 | Shirik | G13-G18 are all consistent across all modes, and correspond to things I need to do immediately like FD or petrecall |
| 18:20.37 | kergoth | that's true. then the profile stays static, and i just change in game actionbuttons, or if i need to, char specific keybindings |
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| 18:22.12 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: yes |
| 18:22.18 | kergoth | i'm curious, how to people make use of their mouse's extra buttons in game? |
| 18:22.27 | Shirik | click casting |
| 18:22.34 | TC-Working | i use all of them |
| 18:22.35 | kergoth | i decided to try mapping left scroll to target nearest enemy, and right scroll to target nearest friendly |
| 18:22.37 | Shadowed| | I use them for abilities |
| 18:22.41 | TC-Working | but it has driver issues |
| 18:22.42 | kergoth | and scroll down to jump |
| 18:22.45 | kergoth | not sure what ot do with scroll up |
| 18:23.14 | Shirik | I use scroll for zoom :/ |
| 18:23.31 | TC-Working | auto walk kergoth? |
| 18:23.42 | Shadowed| | I could probably bind 2 more buttons to my mouse, but I already use most of the time for movement, so I don't want to have to worry about choosing between moving or attacking, only buttons I use on mouse for attacking don't use the same fingers for movement |
| 18:24.09 | kergoth | TC-Working, have the left side button assigned to that atm |
| 18:24.24 | kergoth | unfortunatley this logitech only has one side button :| |
| 18:24.38 | Shadowed| | Using the MX1000, so 3 side buttons |
| 18:24.47 | TC-Working | well i have my laft mouse button for vent |
| 18:24.49 | Guillotine | I use all my buttons for click casting. along with alt/shift/ctrl |
| 18:24.56 | Guillotine | pretty much all my friendly spells are click casted |
| 18:25.23 | Shadowed| | I use caps lock for vent |
| 18:25.31 | TC-Working | meh, i hate the little light on |
| 18:25.41 | Shadowed| | Yea I press it again after being done talking |
| 18:25.49 | Shadowed| | don't really have a good key to use for vent |
| 18:26.21 | TC-Working | side mouse buttons work well |
| 18:26.31 | TC-Working | dont have to streach your hand around on the keyboard |
| 18:26.32 | Shadowed| | I'm using all 3 side buttons |
| 18:26.35 | TC-Working | strech* |
| 18:26.43 | TC-Working | oh..i have 7 buttons on my mouse |
| 18:26.58 | kergoth | hmm maybe i'll do that, switch my scroll up to autorun and my side button to vent... i need a new mouse.. maybe one of those razor's |
| 18:27.20 | Shadowed| | I play a Warrior and Rogue, I can't be micro managing 10 keys on my mouse when I need to worry about spinning around or moving quickly =p |
| 18:27.48 | Kalman|radio | ~ for vent. |
| 18:27.54 | TC-Working | practace, it will become second nature |
| 18:28.01 | TC-Working | practice* |
| 18:28.03 | TC-Working | ...w/e |
| 18:28.07 | Shadowed| | ` is bound to trinket #13, and ALT + ` is bound to Arcane Torrent |
| 18:28.49 | Shadowed| | yea I know, but i don't find it worth the change just to gain an extra couple of keys |
| 18:29.04 | Shirik | trinket 13? |
| 18:29.05 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 18:29.20 | Shadowed| | whatever slot #13 is wtf |
| 18:29.29 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:29.29 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Guillotine] by ChanServ |
| 18:29.33 | Shadowed| | ~lart Shirik |
| 18:29.33 | purl | slaps Shirik upside the head with a wet fish |
| 18:29.34 | Shirik | thought you carried around 13 trinkets :P |
| 18:29.47 | Kaydeethree | ick |
| 18:29.51 | Shadowed| | I use to carry around 5-6 on Warrior |
| 18:29.54 | Shadowed| | 6-7 actually |
| 18:30.05 | Kaydeethree | I've got 3 on me, will get my av/pvp trinkets out of the bank if necessary |
| 18:30.41 | Shadowed| | PvP Trinket, BHB, Fire/Frost Reflectors, Loathebs Reflection, Onyxia trinket, scarab and petrified scarab |
| 18:31.02 | Shadowed| | er, petrified scarab not "scaran and" |
| 18:31.16 | Shadowed| | oh and KOTS |
| 18:35.26 | leethal | is there any sane gatherer addons around? |
| 18:35.53 | leethal | this most common one, called Gatherer, doesn't know that rich adamantite and adamantite is the same thing, so it stores both separately |
| 18:36.02 | leethal | same with tin/silver etc |
| 18:36.08 | leethal | or iron/silver or whatever it is =P |
| 18:38.25 | Cide | I thought they had different "properties" |
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| 18:38.33 | Cide | rich adamantite having more uses before it despawns or whatever |
| 18:38.44 | Shadowed| | correct |
| 18:38.53 | Shadowed| | Rich Adamantite have better chances to givegems too I believe |
| 18:39.04 | Cide | so classifying them as the same thing is likely a matter of opinion |
| 18:39.08 | leethal | well |
| 18:39.15 | foxlit | They spawn at the same location |
| 18:39.17 | leethal | I'm thinking about spawning point |
| 18:39.19 | leethal | yes, exactly |
| 18:39.23 | leethal | it's the same thing, only a rarespawn |
| 18:39.24 | Cide | ah, true |
| 18:39.26 | foxlit | So while you may gather them differently, you'd do well to show them as one and the same |
| 18:39.34 | leethal | and tracking drops is useless imo, wowhead and thottbot and those is better at that |
| 18:40.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
| 18:40.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got my script working |
| 18:40.29 | leethal | shouldn't be hard making your own gather addon should it? |
| 18:40.36 | leethal | store x and y when you mine, and yay |
| 18:40.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wrote the right script 5 minutes earlier, but turns out i didn't close a bracket in an earlier script and it was acting up :x |
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| 18:41.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, 5 minutes into making it work :P |
| 18:42.16 | leethal | Mr_Rabies: hey, you hijacked my attention =P |
| 18:42.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sorry :[ |
| 18:42.40 | Cide | leethal: if that's all you want, probably not |
| 18:42.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just celebrating in my victory over nickserv |
| 18:43.00 | leethal | just kiddin' |
| 18:43.12 | amro | what would 0101+0111 give, if the leftmost bit is a sign bit? |
| 18:43.15 | leethal | (orly) |
| 18:44.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Legorol, Neighbours is moving to Five! >_< |
| 18:45.45 | cogwheel|work | amro: depends on what type of negative notation it's using :P |
| 18:45.55 | Shirik | two's compliment ftw |
| 18:46.10 | amro | cogwheel|work: that's my problem exactly, none was specified... so which should I go with? |
| 18:46.16 | Cide | >>> 010+0111 |
| 18:46.16 | Cide | Cide: 121 |
| 18:46.20 | Shirik | two's compliment tends to be the standard |
| 18:46.22 | Cide | I win! |
| 18:46.28 | Cide | err, I fail |
| 18:46.31 | Cide | >>> 0101+0111 |
| 18:46.31 | Cide | Cide: 212 |
| 18:46.35 | Cide | there! |
| 18:46.37 | amro | right but this isn't for any practical purpouse |
| 18:46.50 | amro | trinary? |
| 18:46.51 | Shirik | in any case |
| 18:46.54 | Shirik | it would be an overflow |
| 18:46.58 | Cide | lol |
| 18:47.07 | Shirik | unless you get an extra bit |
| 18:47.46 | amro | you don't, it's a 4bit register hypothetical ALU |
| 18:48.01 | Shirik | then it will be an overflow |
| 18:48.02 | cogwheel|work | well, assuming two's compliment, it would be 0100 |
| 18:48.09 | cogwheel|work | err |
| 18:48.13 | Shirik | but it will result in 1100 |
| 18:48.14 | cogwheel|work | negative 4 |
| 18:48.19 | Shirik | yes, -4 |
| 18:48.32 | Shirik | (in two's compliment) |
| 18:48.44 | Shirik | 1100 in either case |
| 18:48.48 | Shirik | it just depends on how you look at it |
| 18:48.52 | cogwheel|work | yep |
| 18:49.40 | amro | er wait, make that 1101 and 1111 |
| 18:49.43 | Shirik | it's the same result |
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| 18:49.59 | amro | just snip off the overflowing bit? |
| 18:50.09 | Shirik | correct |
| 18:50.13 | Shirik | that's how it always works |
| 18:50.18 | Shirik | But this time, it's not an overflow ;) |
| 18:50.26 | Shirik | This is correctly -4 (in two's compliment) |
| 18:50.29 | Shirik | and correctly 1100 |
| 18:51.01 | amro | but if the leftmost bit is a sign bit, shouldn't it be removed from the calculation? |
| 18:51.05 | Shirik | nope |
| 18:51.10 | Shirik | this is how two's compliment works :) |
| 18:51.25 | Shirik | you straight up add the numbers |
| 18:51.26 | Shirik | which is why it's the preferred method |
| 18:51.31 | cogwheel|work | that's the beauty of it |
| 18:51.50 | Shirik | but it does lead to some things which seem odd to people whom are new to it |
| 18:52.01 | Shirik | like 1111 is -1, 1110 is -2 |
| 18:52.04 | Shirik | to some it seems backwards |
| 18:52.19 | amro | but it's NOT two's compliment |
| 18:52.20 | cogwheel|work | but we're not concerned about people :P |
| 18:53.06 | Beladona | people suck, computers don't lie |
| 18:53.07 | Shirik | you're just having the MSB as a sign bit? |
| 18:53.08 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 18:53.11 | amro | its not a practical or realistic problem. it's just some stupid question they gave chemistry students out of all people, and they haven't covered two's complement |
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| 18:54.28 | Shirik | is there some way to represent a number in binary in Lua? (Perhaps in a string) |
| 18:54.37 | Shirik | kinda like C's itoa() |
| 18:54.53 | Cide | >>> tonumber("1000", 2) |
| 18:54.53 | Cide | Cide: 8 |
| 18:55.02 | Shirik | ok but the other way around |
| 18:55.03 | Shirik | I give it 8 |
| 18:55.13 | Shirik | healing ramparts |
| 18:55.14 | Shirik | as usual |
| 18:55.20 | leethal | lol |
| 18:55.21 | Cide | um |
| 18:55.26 | Cide | don't think so |
| 18:55.31 | Shirik | oh well |
| 18:55.33 | batrick | u could just write the function shiritk >< |
| 18:55.34 | Shirik | not like the math is hard to make |
| 18:55.36 | Shirik | yeah |
| 18:55.38 | Cide | yeah :) |
| 18:56.22 | amro | well I've tried a few different methods and -4 keeps popping up |
| 18:56.24 | amro | ill use that |
| 18:57.53 | foxlit | There's no format for binary? |
| 18:58.27 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n,s) if not s then s = ""; end local r,d = n % 2, math.floor(n / 2); s = s .. r; return s .. toBinary(d); end print(toBinary(8)) |
| 18:58.27 | Cide | Shirik: d:\lua\input.tmp:169: stack overflow |
| 18:58.30 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:58.33 | Shirik | oh that's not a tail call |
| 18:58.33 | foxlit | Bah, there's an octal |
| 18:58.39 | Shirik | blast! |
| 18:59.27 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; end while (d > 0) do local r,d = n % 2, math.floor(n / 2); s = s .. r; end return s; end print(toBinary(8)) |
| 18:59.27 | Cide | Shirik: [string "function toBinary(n) local s = ""; end while (d > 0) do local r..."]:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 19:00.24 | Guillotine | Shirik: you're ending the function at the very beginning |
| 19:00.35 | Shirik | trying to heal while writing that >.> |
| 19:00.47 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; while (d > 0) do local r,d = n % 2, math.floor(n / 2); s = s .. r; end return s; end print(toBinary(8)) |
| 19:00.47 | Cide | Shirik: [string "function toBinary(n) local s = ""; while (d..."]:1: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 19:00.49 | amro | pfft, l2healncode |
| 19:00.50 | Cide | heh, maybe I complicated it a bit |
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| 19:01.05 | Cide | >>> function binify(dec) local bits = math.ceil(math.log(dec)/math.log(2))+1; local result = ""; for i = 1, bits, 1 do result = result .. (bit.band(dec, 2^(bits-i))>0 and "1" or "0") end return (result~="" and result or "0"); end return binify(8), binify(6), binify(128), binify(0) |
| 19:01.06 | Cide | Cide: "1000", "0110", "10000000", "0" |
| 19:01.14 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = s .. r; end return s; end print(toBinary(8)) |
| 19:01.14 | Cide | Shirik: "0001" |
| 19:01.20 | Shirik | er, that's backwards |
| 19:01.26 | Cide | hehe, yeah :) |
| 19:01.28 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return s; end print(toBinary(8)) |
| 19:01.28 | Cide | Shirik: "1000" |
| 19:01.29 | Cide | that's the problem I had too |
| 19:01.34 | Shirik | But I got it eventually! |
| 19:01.38 | Cide | oh, I'm stupid |
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| 19:01.41 | batrick | >>>function toB(num, r) local ret = ""; while true do if num% r |
| 19:01.41 | Cide | batrick: [string "function toB(num, r) local ret = ""; while true do if num% r"]:1: 'then' expected near '<eof>' |
| 19:01.45 | batrick | whoops |
| 19:01.45 | weazer | Evening guys. |
| 19:01.47 | batrick | lmoa |
| 19:01.48 | foxlit | Call it big endian |
| 19:01.49 | Shirik | but that doesn't handle negatives |
| 19:01.52 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:01.58 | Shirik | big endian refers to bytes not bits? |
| 19:02.21 | weazer | I was wondering if theres anyway getting a mana bar when in forms as a druid? Something that fit into Aguf maybe? Thanks |
| 19:02.32 | Kaydeethree | DruidBar |
| 19:02.42 | Guillotine | or get Pitbull |
| 19:02.50 | Shirik | >>> return bit.bnot |
| 19:02.50 | Cide | Shirik: function: 0002A448 |
| 19:03.21 | weazer | Ok thanks |
| 19:03.22 | amro | dealing with binary seems a bit too low level for lua |
| 19:03.42 | Cide | or too complex |
| 19:03.45 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; if n < 0 then n = bit.bnot(n); s = "1"; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return s; end print(toBinary(8)) |
| 19:03.46 | Cide | Shirik: "1000" |
| 19:03.49 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; if n < 0 then n = bit.bnot(n); s = "1"; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return s; end print(toBinary(-8)) |
| 19:03.49 | Cide | Shirik: "1111" |
| 19:03.54 | Shirik | hrm |
| 19:03.56 | Shirik | that's not right |
| 19:04.07 | Cide | -1! |
| 19:04.07 | Shirik | oh I know what I can do |
| 19:04.12 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 19:04.12 | Shirik | duh |
| 19:04.21 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; if n < 0 then n = bit.bnot(n)-1; s = "1"; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return s; end print(toBinary(-8)) |
| 19:04.22 | Cide | Shirik: "1101" |
| 19:04.38 | Shirik | that's... still not right |
| 19:04.40 | Shirik | that's -3 |
| 19:05.48 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s = ""; if n < 0 then n = bit.bnot(n)+1; s = "1"; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return s; end print(toBinary(-8)) |
| 19:05.49 | Cide | Shirik: "10001" |
| 19:05.52 | leethal | isn't UNIT_AURA supposed to contain some info about which aura that changed? Or do I have to check all the buffs of unit "foo" when that event happens? |
| 19:06.28 | Cide | nope |
| 19:06.39 | Cide | check CT_BuffMod's CT_BuffMod_Parsing.lua |
| 19:06.54 | leethal | mkay |
| 19:07.09 | Cide | well, it mostly comes down to finding which buff's duration changed |
| 19:07.55 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s, isNegative = "", false; if n < 0 then n = bit.bnot(n)-1; isNegative = true; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return (isNegative and "1" or "")..s; end print(toBinary(-8)) |
| 19:07.55 | Cide | Shirik: "1110" |
| 19:08.04 | Shirik | I give up for now |
| 19:08.05 | Cide | -2! getting closer :) |
| 19:08.19 | batrick | what encoding do you want shirik |
| 19:08.24 | Shirik | two's compliment |
| 19:08.30 | batrick | figured |
| 19:08.58 | Shirik | >>> return bit.bnot(8) |
| 19:08.58 | Cide | Shirik: -9 |
| 19:09.00 | batrick | u need a whole byte for that... |
| 19:09.13 | Shirik | for -8? |
| 19:09.22 | batrick | in two's compliment |
| 19:09.35 | Shirik | 1000 = -8? |
| 19:09.45 | batrick | well |
| 19:09.48 | Cide | should be... |
| 19:09.53 | batrick | i guess |
| 19:11.58 | Shirik | I know what it is |
| 19:12.33 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s, isNegative = "", false; if n < 0 then n = math.abs(bit.bnot(n))-1; isNegative = true; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return (isNegative and "1" or "")..s; end print(toBinary(-8)) |
| 19:12.33 | Cide | Shirik: "1110" |
| 19:12.36 | Shirik | gah! |
| 19:12.40 | Shirik | ok I don't |
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| 19:13.14 | Shirik | I think the great Iriel is needed |
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| 19:16.59 | Guillotine | >>> function toBinary(n) s=2^(round(math.log(math.abs(n),2),1)) j=s-n h=tonumber(j,2) end print(toBinary(-2)) |
| 19:17.00 | Cide | Guillotine: [string "function toBinary(n) s=2^(round(math.log(ma..."]:1: attempt to call global 'round' (a nil value) |
| 19:18.34 | Shirik | beautiful |
| 19:18.39 | Shirik | and my lua interpreter doesn't have the bit library |
| 19:18.47 | Cide | use cog's :P |
| 19:19.21 | Guillotine | >>> function toBinary(n) s=2^(math.ceil(math.log(math.abs(n),2))) j=s-n h=tonumber(j,2) end print(toBinary(-2)) |
| 19:19.21 | Cide | Guillotine: nil |
| 19:19.26 | Guillotine | doh :( |
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| 19:20.14 | Kaydeethree | ah, the ptr finally pushed build 6692 |
| 19:21.31 | Shirik | omg |
| 19:21.31 | Shirik | I had it right all along |
| 19:22.21 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s, isNegative = "", false; if n < 0 then n = math.abs(bit.bnot(n))+1; isNegative = true; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return (isNegative and "1" or "")..s; end print(toBinary(-8)) |
| 19:22.21 | Cide | Shirik: "11000" |
| 19:22.23 | Shirik | I win |
| 19:22.45 | batrick | no u don't |
| 19:22.50 | Shirik | that's correct |
| 19:22.57 | batrick | -8 in two's complement is 1000 |
| 19:23.04 | Shirik | which is equivalent to 11000 |
| 19:23.27 | Guillotine | batrick: Shirik is right |
| 19:23.32 | Guillotine | you can add as many 1's to the front as you want |
| 19:23.45 | Shirik | admittedly, I'd like to remove that extra one, but it's not "wrong" |
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| 19:24.00 | Shirik | actually |
| 19:24.01 | Shirik | duh |
| 19:24.12 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s, isNegative = "", false; if n < 0 then n = math.abs(bit.bnot(n))+1; isNegative = true; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return s; end print(toBinary(-8)) |
| 19:24.13 | Cide | Shirik: "1000" |
| 19:24.16 | Shirik | that should work I think |
| 19:25.21 | Shirik | >>> function toBinary(n) local s, isNegative = "", false; if n < 0 then n = math.abs(bit.bnot(n))+1; isNegative = true; end while (n > 0) do local r = n % 2; n = math.floor(n / 2); s = r .. s; end return s; end print(toBinary(-8), toBinary(8), toBinary(-3952)) |
| 19:25.21 | Cide | Shirik: "1000", "1000", "111101110000" |
| 19:25.29 | Shirik | ugh |
| 19:25.33 | Shirik | well that's "correct" |
| 19:25.39 | Shirik | forget it, I give up |
| 19:25.41 | Shirik | back to healing! |
| 19:25.43 | zenzelezz | I get a bit annoyed when my dad refers to my C++ code as "your script" |
| 19:25.49 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 19:25.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's horrible |
| 19:25.56 | Shirik | at least your dad looks at it |
| 19:26.01 | Shirik | my dad is like "wtf is that crap" |
| 19:26.40 | zenzelezz | I have to help him with PHP at times, can be quite frustrating... random indenting, includes everywhere, and he seems to have 10 files open at all times |
| 19:28.03 | Kaydeethree | hrm... |
| 19:28.12 | Kaydeethree | "+SPELL_FAILED_TARGET_IS_TRIVIAL = "Can't target trivial";" |
| 19:28.32 | zenzelezz | that'll teach you not to attack critters |
| 19:28.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:28.50 | Kaydeethree | I wonder what they're going to use that new error message for? |
| 19:29.14 | Guillotine | dunno. but please don't stop my critter killing :( |
| 19:29.19 | zenzelezz | 2.2.0: * You can no longer attack players or monsters outside your experience level range |
| 19:29.24 | Guillotine | maybe you won't be able to attack trivial PvP targets? |
| 19:29.29 | Shirik | zenzelezz: That's not funny |
| 19:29.32 | Guillotine | aww, zen beat me to it :( |
| 19:29.53 | zenzelezz | well, they have to use it for *something* |
| 19:30.28 | Kaydeethree | http://ace.pastey.net/34390 |
| 19:30.35 | Kaydeethree | full list of interface changes in latest ptr build |
| 19:31.39 | kergoth | rogue build question.. 3/3 imp kidney & 2 points in something unimportant, or 5/5 precision? i'm torn |
| 19:32.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't think of one "trivial" target |
| 19:32.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Critters need to die, I have been killed by a level 1 frog in Zang before |
| 19:32.24 | ScytheBlade1 | After that incident, well, no remose |
| 19:32.32 | Kaydeethree | I let Mr. Bigglesworth kill me in Naxx once |
| 19:32.33 | Shirik | I love critters |
| 19:32.36 | Shirik | I cast misdirection |
| 19:32.39 | Shirik | and then distracting shot them |
| 19:32.43 | Shirik | it's fun |
| 19:32.46 | Shirik | give people crabs |
| 19:32.49 | Guillotine | lol |
| 19:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:33.03 | Guillotine | I fear the rats in deeprun tram on my warlock |
| 19:33.07 | Guillotine | have like 10-15 following me |
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| 19:35.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, note if you visit WoWWiki now, there's a link to the interface portal on the left sidebar :) Hope it's useful |
| 19:37.26 | leethal | pitbull is seriously nice stuff |
| 19:37.26 | Shirik | if by nice |
| 19:37.26 | Guillotine | indeed |
| 19:37.26 | Guillotine | though I'm getting lots of bugs |
| 19:37.27 | leethal | I've just had one |
| 19:37.28 | Shirik | you mean the worst pos ever designed and the author should go throw himself in a pit of lava? |
| 19:37.29 | Shirik | then yes |
| 19:37.41 | leethal | Shirik: truth? |
| 19:37.42 | Guillotine | currently making a module to fade out duplicates of raid target/party target frames |
| 19:37.49 | haste | It's huge as PS3 |
| 19:37.49 | Shirik | lol no not really, I haven't seen it |
| 19:37.54 | Guillotine | leethal: no, hes just trying to tease ck, not really realizing he isn't here |
| 19:38.05 | Shirik | but if it's anything like ckknight's other addons, it's good |
| 19:38.21 | Cide | and very efficient |
| 19:40.25 | Kirkburn|afk | If his addons were people, they'd be in the gym the entire time, toning, toning, toning, toning. |
| 19:40.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, and you could take them apart. Don't like that arm? Remove it! |
| 19:41.00 | Guillotine | lol |
| 19:41.09 | Beladona | well sure, because it already has 12 arms |
| 19:41.22 | leethal | it totally rocks |
| 19:41.22 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 19:41.34 | leethal | the party view, with cast bars of all the party members... mmmmm |
| 19:41.40 | Kaydeethree | meh, one of these days I'll get off my ass and try it |
| 19:41.45 | Kaydeethree | <3 inertia |
| 19:41.52 | Kaydeethree | perl classic still does everything I need it to do |
| 19:43.34 | leethal | i bet you'll get twice as much framerate in raids if you use pitbull instead |
| 19:43.55 | Kaydeethree | 5->10fps? hot |
| 19:44.03 | leethal | ya -_- |
| 19:46.01 | Cide | it uses ace so it must be true |
| 19:47.15 | Kaydeethree | I'd start typing my usual diatribe as response to that, but lenno's not on irc afaik |
| 19:47.33 | Shirik | 15:46:31 +Cide it uses ace so it must be true |
| 19:47.35 | Shirik | I hate you now |
| 19:47.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Biting satire is always the best medicine |
| 19:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 19:48.27 | Cide | hey, everyone knows me by know, you shouldn't act surprised :) |
| 19:49.27 | Shirik | I like the G library |
| 19:49.39 | Shirik | it's really cool |
| 19:49.44 | Shirik | it encapsulates everything |
| 19:49.59 | Shirik | and it takes up no extra memory |
| 19:50.10 | Shirik | To get a player's health, all you need to do is _G.UnitHealth() |
| 19:50.16 | Shirik | or to find his name, _G.UnitName() |
| 19:50.18 | Cide | wow |
| 19:50.35 | Kaydeethree | damn, seriously? I need to look in to that library |
| 19:50.39 | Shirik | I wrote it, it's extremely powerful, and very efficient |
| 19:50.42 | Shirik | it only is one line of code!! |
| 19:50.57 | Cide | _G = getfenv(0) ? |
| 19:51.03 | Shirik | what?! That's my code!! |
| 19:51.08 | TC-Working | and the line of code is _GG.IWin |
| 19:51.08 | Shirik | Copyright infringment, I'm suing you! |
| 19:51.08 | Cide | it's mine now! |
| 19:51.11 | TC-Working | () |
| 19:52.34 | ckknight | I see all! |
| 19:53.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 19:54.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's the name of the gryphon endcaps on the default buttons? i seem to remember them being a seperate frame |
| 19:54.22 | Shirik | they are it's |
| 19:54.32 | Shirik | grr I forget |
| 19:54.46 | ckknight | Shirik: PitBull is a nice piece of work. |
| 19:55.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, uh, my code is totally better and shorter than all yours! |
| 19:55.31 | ckknight | like your penis? |
| 19:55.33 | Shirik | 0 klocs? |
| 19:56.34 | Kirkburn|afk | I've not spent much time on it but .... http://wowi.pastey.net/34419 |
| 19:56.52 | Shirik | you should use a semicolon |
| 19:56.56 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: wow, that's so mature |
| 19:57.22 | Kaydeethree | waitasec... there's supposed to be maturity in here? |
| 19:57.29 | Shirik | this is IRC |
| 19:57.30 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Kaydeethree (n=kd3@host-69-59-74-241.nctv.com) |
| 19:57.33 | Shirik | there's no such thing as maturity |
| 19:57.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Maturity, inverse proportional to the amount of WoW you play. |
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| 19:57.53 | Shirik | I'm joking of course |
| 19:58.06 | Kirkburn|afk | No u. |
| 19:58.06 | amro | Kirkburn|afk: nice and efficient |
| 19:58.18 | Kirkburn|afk | amro, no reported bugs so far! |
| 19:58.27 | Shirik | impressive |
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| 19:59.53 | Kaydeethree | oh hot. they took down the LoS checks on arcane missiles for each and every pulse |
| 20:01.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Put it at what, 2ms? |
| 20:01.21 | Cide | didn't they ... add it? |
| 20:01.35 | Kaydeethree | someone posted a .diff of the patchnotes http://wowi.pastey.net/33845 |
| 20:01.59 | Mikma | inspectrange! |
| 20:02.03 | Shirik | diff of patch notes? |
| 20:02.04 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 20:02.11 | Shirik | people don't just read them anymore? |
| 20:02.17 | TC-Working | nope |
| 20:02.19 | Kaydeethree | oh, hahaha... "+- Soulstones: Soulstones can no longer be used on targets not in |
| 20:02.19 | Kaydeethree | 320+ your party or raid. In addition, the soulstone buff will now be |
| 20:02.19 | Kaydeethree | 321+ removed if the target or caster leaves the party or raid." |
| 20:02.28 | Shirik | haha |
| 20:02.32 | Shirik | boo! |
| 20:02.37 | Shirik | I was liking the free SS after party |
| 20:02.45 | Shirik | like a reward for not wiping |
| 20:02.59 | ckknight | 29+- Dodge Rating: Low level players now calculate dodge from dodge rating |
| 20:02.59 | ckknight | 30+ at the same rate as level 34 players. |
| 20:03.05 | ckknight | lol, now that lvl10 guy won't be a god |
| 20:03.05 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 20:03.12 | Shirik | no more 110% dodge |
| 20:03.29 | Kaydeethree | you knew they were gonna nerf that the instant it got posted in general |
| 20:03.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 115+- Hypothermia: If this debuff would prevent you from casting a spell |
| 20:03.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 116+ on a given target, the button for that ability is now grayed out. |
| 20:03.36 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf? |
| 20:03.37 | Shirik | sure but |
| 20:03.42 | Shirik | you haven't heard about that? |
| 20:03.53 | Shirik | hypothermia = ice block nerf |
| 20:03.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Casting a spell ON a target? |
| 20:03.54 | Kaydeethree | scythe; it works the same way for weakened soul/the pally debuff |
| 20:04.01 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:04.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Read that twice |
| 20:04.05 | Shirik | it probably just means on yourself |
| 20:04.12 | Kaydeethree | they just didn't change the wording for hypo |
| 20:04.17 | Shirik | yourself can still be a target |
| 20:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | IB isn't a targeted spell though |
| 20:04.28 | sysrage | most retarded nerf ever |
| 20:04.34 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.50 | Kirkburn|afk | Why? |
| 20:05.03 | sysrage | when the hell was a double ice block ever making or breaking a fight? |
| 20:05.15 | Kaydeethree | why shouldn't we have to burn 3 cooldowns to be in an ice cube for 20s? |
| 20:05.18 | sysrage | in pvp that is.. which is why it got nerfed |
| 20:05.20 | Kaydeethree | s/have to/be able to/ |
| 20:05.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Because you're not supposed to be protected for that long? |
| 20:06.04 | sysrage | then why the fuck do we get cold snap? |
| 20:06.14 | amro | yeah IB nerf sucked big time |
| 20:06.17 | sysrage | i burned points on cold snap specifically for that |
| 20:06.20 | amro | CS was only useful for IB |
| 20:06.30 | amro | well, mostly |
| 20:06.43 | sysrage | it's now helpful for frost pet.. but it's still a ridiculous nerf |
| 20:07.16 | sysrage | i don't normally cry about nerfs. i just see absolutely no value at all to that one |
| 20:07.16 | Kirkburn|afk | All it does is force 20 secs between IBs |
| 20:07.34 | amro | mages can easily die in 20 secnds |
| 20:07.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Being able to take yourself out of play for 20 secs is a huge amount of time in PvP |
| 20:07.45 | amro | also |
| 20:07.50 | Kaydeethree | yes but it's not like we can do anything for those 20s |
| 20:07.51 | amro | IB is mostly used to dispel debuffs |
| 20:07.55 | amro | rather than immunity |
| 20:08.07 | Kirkburn|afk | No, but the guys who were trying to kill you have to switch target |
| 20:08.07 | amro | because if we're immune for 20sec, the opponent will eat+drink |
| 20:08.20 | Kirkburn|afk | You always solo PvP? |
| 20:08.45 | amro | my mage is still leveling, so that would be a yes for my mage for the most part :) |
| 20:08.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Mages are often a target in PvP, no? |
| 20:09.03 | Kaydeethree | woo... "Netherbloom no longer causes negative effects ... Additionally, the effects will not replace one another" |
| 20:09.21 | Cide | the only bug in CT_BuffMod gone without having to do anything about it :) |
| 20:09.27 | Kirkburn|afk | oh? |
| 20:09.32 | Kaydeethree | ya, that was annoying |
| 20:09.37 | Kaydeethree | seeing my mount as a debuff aura |
| 20:09.53 | Cide | it keeps an index for the highest buff/debuff |
| 20:10.17 | Cide | but it doesn't take into account that auras can "switch" from being buffs to debuffs and vice versa |
| 20:10.23 | Kaydeethree | oh wow... "Motes of Shadow now primarily drop from void creatures and have been removed from nearly all demons." |
| 20:10.43 | Cide | so the indices are thrown off and all hell breaks loose :) |
| 20:10.54 | Cide | that's.. interesting |
| 20:10.55 | foxlit | Had that with GetPlayerBuff and incorrect indices |
| 20:11.03 | End | Kaydeethree: That's okay, I have enough primal shadow to last the rest of my life |
| 20:11.09 | Kaydeethree | as do the rest of us |
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| 20:12.00 | Kaydeethree | huzzah even though it was rarely an issue "Hellfire Channler's Shadow Bolt Volley has been made much more easy to interrupt." |
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| 20:42.55 | ryan__ | Quick question for one of you WoWUI experts. I'm trying to modify a addon real quick. I have a function that gets passed a name, and a number. The name will ALWAYS be someone in my guild, and the number will always be a whole, positive number.. I want the function to run the name against the guild list, see if they are rank 5 or higher.. And multiply by 2 if they are. |
| 20:43.06 | ryan__ | Can anyone give me a little insight on how to do this? |
| 20:43.40 | Josh_Borke | what is the number? |
| 20:43.53 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGuildRosterInfo |
| 20:43.57 | ryan__ | DKP awards. |
| 20:44.12 | Shirik | so you give people with higher rank in your guild more DKP? |
| 20:44.15 | ryan__ | We have a "Raider" and above rank. That gives DKP * .5.. |
| 20:44.19 | ryan__ | Uhh |
| 20:44.34 | ryan__ | Everyone in the guild can become a "Raider" it's just additional responsibility for them. |
| 20:44.47 | ryan__ | They are required to signup / tell us if they cant make it :) |
| 20:44.51 | Shirik | w/e, that's the function you need I linked |
| 20:44.52 | leethal | be cool and use epgp instead =P |
| 20:44.53 | ryan__ | Not too harsh IMO |
| 20:44.56 | ryan__ | Thanks :) |
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| 20:45.13 | leethal | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/guild/epgp-dkp-reloaded/ yay |
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| 20:51.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | wsg with two competant druids is fun :D |
| 20:51.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think we just 3 capped in about 6 minutes |
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| 20:54.33 | ryan__ | Dont supose there is an API function that returns the guild ID from a player name is there? Or do I need to dump the entire list to a array and look it up from there. |
| 21:01.45 | leethal | don't think so |
| 21:02.06 | ryan__ | Wow, thats going to hurt calling it for every player >< |
| 21:03.06 | Shirik | you underestimate the speed of addons |
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| 21:05.25 | leethal | yeah so do I |
| 21:05.31 | leethal | I go "woha I have to loop through this thing 20 times" |
| 21:05.35 | leethal | but it's pretty fast =P |
| 21:08.41 | foxlit | What's lua's internal integer format? |
| 21:09.13 | foxlit | Just a double? |
| 21:10.49 | foxlit | Bah. |
| 21:11.05 | foxlit | The largest number is about 10^308, which doesn't tell me much |
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| 21:19.27 | ryan__ | I've NEVER touched LUA before.. Can the IF function compare strings though a simple ==? My function doesnt seem to be working. if namein == name then |
| 21:19.52 | amro | yes it can |
| 21:19.53 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 21:20.34 | JoshBorke | ryan__: yes it can, with the speed of an integer comparison! |
| 21:20.42 | foxlit | Question: convert 4-byte string to integer. Do I have to do string.asc? |
| 21:20.52 | foxlit | (or string.byte?) |
| 21:21.14 | JoshBorke | tonumber? |
| 21:21.18 | JoshBorke | >>> "hi josh" |
| 21:21.18 | Cide | JoshBorke: "hi josh" |
| 21:21.27 | foxlit | It's an integer represented as a string |
| 21:21.27 | JoshBorke | try it out :-D |
| 21:22.14 | foxlit | Want something more along the lines of |
| 21:22.14 | JoshBorke | 4 bytes is an awful lot of bits for a number |
| 21:22.16 | foxlit | 32 |
| 21:22.19 | JoshBorke | give me an example |
| 21:22.23 | Cide | >>> 2^31 |
| 21:22.24 | Cide | Cide: 2147483648 |
| 21:22.24 | JoshBorke | that's true |
| 21:22.36 | foxlit | >>> str, n = "xoom", 0; for i=0,3 do n = n + string.byte(strsub(str,i+1,i+1))*256^i; end print(n) |
| 21:22.37 | Cide | foxlit: 1836019576 |
| 21:23.30 | foxlit | >>> str, n = string.char(0,0,0,65), 0; for i=0,3 do n = n + string.byte(strsub(str,i+1,i+1))*256^i; end print(n) |
| 21:23.30 | Cide | foxlit: 1090519040 |
| 21:23.38 | foxlit | >>> str, n = string.char(65,0,0,0), 0; for i=0,3 do n = n + string.byte(strsub(str,i+1,i+1))*256^i; end print(n) |
| 21:23.38 | Cide | foxlit: 65 |
| 21:24.18 | [dRaCo] | >>> 10^308 |
| 21:24.18 | Cide | [dRaCo]: 1e+308 |
| 21:24.21 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 21:25.24 | Cide | you wanted all the zeroes typed out or what? :P |
| 21:25.58 | [dRaCo] | yeah :D |
| 21:28.13 | foxlit | So no better ideas than my string.byte muckery? |
| 21:28.45 | ryan__ | http://wowi.pastey.net/34515-1o46 <--- I really suck, cant get that to work, |
| 21:29.15 | foxlit | Did you open your guild tab lately? |
| 21:29.26 | ryan__ | Err |
| 21:29.28 | ryan__ | heh |
| 21:29.38 | foxlit | You have to have a synced guild list to call GetGuildRosterInfo |
| 21:30.14 | foxlit | So open social tab, click Guild |
| 21:30.17 | foxlit | *frame |
| 21:30.51 | ryan__ | Yeah, still not returning anything for me. |
| 21:31.03 | ryan__ | I call it with Function(Xapht) (Me, online, in guild) |
| 21:31.10 | ryan__ | And it wont return anything but nil |
| 21:31.41 | ryan__ | Actualy |
| 21:32.03 | ryan__ | Sorry, with the current code.. It doesnt return anything. The IF never becomes true. |
| 21:32.28 | Cide | ryan__: www.lua.org/pil |
| 21:32.31 | foxlit | Your code is fine. |
| 21:33.44 | foxlit | Works for me, in any case |
| 21:33.44 | ryan__ | Odd |
| 21:33.44 | Cide | how are you calling it? |
| 21:33.44 | foxlit | Dump whatever GetNumGuildMembers and GetGuildRosterInfo return, see if that sheds any light on anything |
| 21:33.44 | ryan__ | Just using /script Function() right now |
| 21:33.44 | foxlit | QDKP2_IsRaider("Atreju"); |
| 21:33.44 | Cide | ryan__: paste your /script |
| 21:33.45 | ryan__ | Ugh |
| 21:33.52 | ryan__ | Passing in strings needs ""'s |
| 21:34.05 | ryan__ | <--- Need PIL badly >< |
| 21:34.07 | Cide | that's why you paste exactly the code you're using |
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| 21:34.13 | Cide | hence why 've been pasting the link 5 times |
| 21:34.18 | Cide | s/'ve/I've |
| 21:34.21 | Cide | s/'ve/I've/ |
| 21:34.30 | Cide | ... you get the point |
| 21:34.35 | ryan__ | Yeah =P |
| 21:34.48 | ryan__ | Thanks again.. Should probably learn LUA a bit before I mess with it :) |
| 21:34.50 | Ku | Hai. |
| 21:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, this may be slightly OT, but this thread is awesome: http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=sc-general&t=184026&p=1&#post184026 |
| 21:35.34 | Ku | Today, I'm working on an Options menu for "Look! New Recipe!" I guess I'll need to read about saved variables and such, right? |
| 21:35.41 | Nerinia | >>> local num = 0 for key in pairs(_G) do num = num + 1 end print(num) |
| 21:35.41 | Cide | Nerinia: 89 |
| 21:35.58 | foxlit | Anywhere in particular I can find bitlib docs? |
| 21:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Ku, they're actually pretty easy to "learn." |
| 21:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Ku, in the .toc: ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: VariableNameGoesHere |
| 21:37.03 | Ku | Well, you just declare which ones are saved in the .toc. |
| 21:37.07 | Ku | Yeah, beat me to it. |
| 21:37.09 | foxlit | >>> string.char(bit.rshift(1,4)) |
| 21:37.09 | Cide | foxlit: "\000" |
| 21:37.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Ku, in a .lua or .xml: VariableNameGoesHere = "asdf"; |
| 21:37.17 | foxlit | >>> string.char(bit.rshift(128,4)) |
| 21:37.17 | Cide | foxlit: "\008" |
| 21:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Just don't make the varibles local, and they'll work. |
| 21:37.34 | Ku | Can they only be on a per-character basis, or can they just be in general? |
| 21:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | SavedVariablesPerCharacter |
| 21:37.55 | ScytheBlade1 | SavedVariables |
| 21:37.58 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc |
| 21:38.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Two different lines in the .toc |
| 21:38.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Note that they cannot cross accounts |
| 21:39.26 | Ku | Then, in the Lua script, you just have to refer to them as named in the .toc, right? |
| 21:39.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 21:39.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Make sure that they are /not/ defined as a local variable |
| 21:39.56 | Ku | :) |
| 21:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Other than that, you're good. |
| 21:42.05 | ryan__ | Last question and I will leave you alone.. Looking at the PIL page, it seems LUA is lacking a CASE statement? |
| 21:42.16 | Ku | Now all I need to do is learn up on how to create the frames for my options menu. :) |
| 21:42.38 | Cide | ryan__: yep |
| 21:42.53 | ryan__ | kk, long if then statements FTL! |
| 21:43.48 | Cide | use tablers |
| 21:43.49 | Cide | tables |
| 21:44.32 | Cide | >>> local cases = { ["a"] = function() return "a" end, ["b"] = function() return "b" end }; local attr = "a"; return cases[attr] |
| 21:44.32 | Cide | Cide: function: 008C9090 |
| 21:44.34 | Cide | >>> local cases = { ["a"] = function() return "a" end, ["b"] = function() return "b" end }; local attr = "a"; return cases[attr]() |
| 21:44.34 | Cide | Cide: "a" |
| 21:45.19 | Ku | Pop quiz, hot shots! What is the most popular AddOn development suite available? |
| 21:45.56 | Tem | just use if ... then ... elseif ... then ... elseif ... end |
| 21:46.10 | Cide | Tem: not very efficient or elegant with 10-20 different values :) |
| 21:46.46 | Tem | oh, I totally agree with your approach |
| 21:46.52 | Tem | that's how I would do it myself |
| 21:46.55 | Cide | but yeah, tables or if statements are the way to go |
| 21:46.58 | Tem | I just hadn't read it |
| 21:47.02 | Cide | ah :) |
| 21:47.05 | foxlit | >>> t = {0=0x007}; print(t[0]) |
| 21:47.05 | Cide | foxlit: [string "t = {0=0x007}; print(t[0])"]:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 21:47.10 | Tem | pvping and ircing at the same time ftl |
| 21:47.12 | foxlit | >>> t = {[0]=0x007}; print(t[0]) |
| 21:47.13 | Cide | foxlit: 7 |
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| 21:48.45 | foxlit | >>> unpack({[0]=7,[1]=2}) |
| 21:48.45 | Cide | foxlit: 2 |
| 21:49.19 | foxlit | >>> unpack({[0]=7,[1]=2},0) |
| 21:49.19 | Cide | foxlit: 7, 2 |
| 21:55.45 | foxlit | Woah, awesome infinite loop |
| 21:55.58 | foxlit | Rather than strlen(x) % 64 == 56, I wrote strlen(x) * 64 == 56 |
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| 22:04.10 | Bam__ | anyone know of a patch mirror for the Mac version on PTR? |
| 22:05.31 | Ku | Where does the <Frames> tag go in the big scheme of things? (I'm trying to add a button.) |
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| 22:10.45 | Kaso | usually within a layer |
| 22:10.53 | foxlit | Signifies that whatever is inside it are children of the frame <Frames> is a child of |
| 22:11.07 | Kaso | ..i think, then again i havent used a xml in years :<# |
| 22:11.08 | Ku | Heh, nevermind. I just forgot a "<". |
| 22:12.12 | foxlit | Why is SHA-2 puretext padded to 56 mod 64 bytes congruency while the algorithm pulls 16 4-byte words out of a 512 bit chunk? |
| 22:12.17 | Cide | <Frame><Frames><Frame/><Button/></Frames></Frame> |
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| 22:17.24 | foxlit | [Because the last 8 bytes are reserved for message length and I should really rtfm] |
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| 22:39.44 | Ku | I have declared a variable in my .toc as a SavedVariable, and I use a function to initialize it if it is not already present, but it tells me it is a function variable. How can I make it global? |
| 22:40.27 | JoshBorke | Ku: VARIABLES_LOADED: if (not MySavedVar) then MySavedVar = {} end |
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| 22:41.50 | Ku | Where does that line of code go? |
| 22:42.11 | JoshBorke | Ku: register for the VARIABLES_LOADED event in your frame |
| 22:42.19 | Ku | Let me show you what I've got so far. |
| 22:42.21 | Kaso | isn't VARIABLES_LOADED a bit 2005. |
| 22:42.49 | nevcairiel | arent we all ? |
| 22:43.21 | JoshBorke | i'm confused |
| 22:43.27 | Ku | http://wowi.pastey.net/34594 |
| 22:43.55 | Ku | Where "NewRecipe_settings" was my SavedVariable I declared. |
| 22:44.27 | nevcairiel | where is init called? |
| 22:44.33 | JoshBorke | Ku: here's the problem |
| 22:44.40 | JoshBorke | SlashCmdList["NEW_RECIPE"] = NewRecipe_settings; |
| 22:44.55 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 22:44.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:45.08 | JoshBorke | Ku: NewRecipe_settings is declared as a function there |
| 22:45.13 | JoshBorke | which means you've got other problems |
| 22:45.15 | Ku | So, it can't be a name? |
| 22:45.25 | Ku | Because in Lua, Functions are a basic type. |
| 22:45.30 | Ku | Like Int or Bool. |
| 22:45.38 | Ku | So, I'm re-instating the variable. |
| 22:46.24 | Kaso | im not sure you quite understand whats going on |
| 22:46.27 | Kaso | in the code |
| 22:46.37 | JoshBorke | Ku: paste your ENTIRE code |
| 22:46.41 | JoshBorke | for that file |
| 22:47.44 | TC-Working | Guillotine: --> |
| 22:47.47 | Ku | My Lua? |
| 22:48.02 | Ku | I think I got it worked out. |
| 22:48.07 | Ku | http://wowi.pastey.net/34601 |
| 22:48.07 | JoshBorke | ok |
| 22:48.30 | JoshBorke | yes, that's good Ku |
| 22:49.00 | Ku | Why, thank you! |
| 22:49.20 | foxlit | Hm, I need a right bitwise rotate (Rather than a right bitwise shift, bit.rshift) function :/ |
| 22:49.33 | JoshBorke | OR them together |
| 22:49.46 | JoshBorke | erm |
| 22:49.52 | JoshBorke | i mean, i dunno |
| 22:49.54 | foxlit | Not quite, but maybe. |
| 22:50.04 | JoshBorke | no, what i said is totally wrong :-P |
| 22:50.47 | Kaso | is bitlib used in the default ui, or is that just for us? |
| 22:51.05 | foxlit | OR leftshift and rightshift together |
| 22:51.29 | foxlit | function bit.rrotate(h, b) |
| 22:51.29 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.29 | foxlit | end |
| 22:52.40 | JoshBorke | why are you rotating? |
| 22:54.04 | foxlit | Cryptographic hash |
| 22:57.25 | Ku | Whenever I ReloadUI(), it resets my saved variables, even though I saved them? |
| 22:57.28 | Ku | Code follows: |
| 22:57.47 | Ku | http://wowi.pastey.net/34610 |
| 22:58.13 | Ku | ...I think I'm saving them. |
| 22:58.38 | Ku | I can close the window and re-open it, and the settings are saved, but when I reload, it wipes them. |
| 22:58.41 | foxlit | Did you restart wow since you added them to ##SavedVariables: section of your toc file? |
| 22:58.51 | Ku | ...maybe not. |
| 22:59.10 | Ku | Is there a way I can check? (Whenever I load WOW for the second time, it crashes). |
| 22:59.41 | Ku | BRB, maybe. |
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| 23:00.54 | foxlit | >>> print(bit.rshift(5,0) .. " " .. bit.rshift(5,10) .. " " .. bit.rshift(5,32)) |
| 23:00.54 | Cide | foxlit: "5 0 5" |
| 23:01.18 | Ku | Hooah! You guys (and gals) are the rawkinest! |
| 23:02.16 | foxlit | Internal mod 32 on that thing? |
| 23:05.17 | foxlit | ~logs |
| 23:05.34 | purl | logs is probably apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 23:05.40 | foxlit | purl, logs |
| 23:05.46 | purl | logs is probably apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 23:06.00 | foxlit | purl, you're slow! |
| 23:06.15 | purl | i'll take that as a complement |
| 23:06.59 | foxlit | Interesting choice of words there. |
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| 23:12.43 | foxlit | Here's the finished bit.rrotate: http://wowi.pastey.net/34624 |
| 23:12.49 | foxlit | Could someone check that for any logic errors? :) |
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| 23:22.36 | Ku | Is there a slash command to clear the chat window |
| 23:22.39 | Ku | ? |
| 23:22.49 | Mikma | try /camp |
| 23:22.52 | Ku | No. |
| 23:22.53 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.53 | foxlit | ./run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:Clear(); |
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