| 00:00.21 | Tem | but I need more buttonspace |
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| 00:14.22 | cladhaire | do you guys assign spots on Gruul |
| 00:14.25 | cladhaire | or just have people not suck? |
| 00:15.02 | Kaso | We assign general areas, group 1 there, group 2 there, etc |
| 00:15.14 | Kaso | other than that just spread out and open your eyes |
| 00:15.15 | cladhaire | and if you land on people, move your ass |
| 00:15.16 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: btw, thank you for teh update |
| 00:15.17 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 00:15.17 | cladhaire | good |
| 00:15.18 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:15.30 | cladhaire | just making sure |
| 00:15.39 | cladhaire | too much dps gets blown if you run and hide |
| 00:15.42 | nevcairiel | we dont assign anything, just tell people to spread, and yeah, not suck :P |
| 00:16.03 | nevcairiel | after the gruul nerf, that works out pretty good |
| 00:16.09 | nevcairiel | before we used hiding spots etc |
| 00:16.43 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 00:16.45 | cladhaire | good =) |
| 00:17.13 | JoshBorke | my stupid guild can't even handle maulgar |
| 00:17.26 | nevcairiel | maulgar is harder then gruul imho |
| 00:17.34 | cladhaire | i've not done him yet |
| 00:17.42 | cladhaire | first raid last night and tonight, and we're cleared |
| 00:17.49 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:18.04 | cladhaire | but we're killing him tonight |
| 00:18.13 | nevcairiel | good luck with that :) |
| 00:18.17 | cladhaire | my shadow DPS last night, with the two main tanks not at the raid, we rocked out |
| 00:18.21 | cladhaire | better than any other attempt they had done |
| 00:18.24 | cladhaire | we have the A-team tonight |
| 00:18.28 | cladhaire | plus my pewpew |
| 00:18.48 | cladhaire | we're missing the other shadow priest tho =( |
| 00:19.08 | JoshBorke | what's your character name so i can look at your gear :-D |
| 00:19.21 | nevcairiel | our shadows are crying right now, we are on tidewalker, and told them to never ever use VE |
| 00:19.33 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: my gear is teh suck righ tnow |
| 00:19.39 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.41 | nevcairiel | so they dont sw:d either |
| 00:20.12 | JoshBorke | i'm two runs from exalted with lower city |
| 00:20.22 | JoshBorke | and i already have the mats for +40 spelldamage to weapon |
| 00:20.35 | JoshBorke | and i'll be getting my shadoweave vest tonight |
| 00:20.45 | JoshBorke | so that's like a 100 damage increase |
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| 00:21.22 | JoshBorke | I AM SO EXCITED! |
| 00:21.29 | cladhaire | nice :P |
| 00:21.35 | cladhaire | i need to wait for 2.1 to spec shadowcloth |
| 00:21.48 | JoshBorke | gonna spec spellcloth come 2.1 :-D |
| 00:21.56 | cladhaire | heheh bastage |
| 00:22.02 | cladhaire | but i'm getting my PMC too |
| 00:22.05 | cladhaire | so i can fall back to healing if i need to |
| 00:22.07 | cladhaire | cause my gear isn't that bad |
| 00:22.16 | JoshBorke | what server? |
| 00:22.20 | cladhaire | srage |
| 00:22.33 | JoshBorke | i coulda transferred there way back when... |
| 00:22.42 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 00:22.44 | cladhaire | its.. horrid |
| 00:22.48 | Tem | why'd they have to give Wild Elekk's such a realistic death sound? |
| 00:22.56 | JoshBorke | i've never seen that happen before |
| 00:22.57 | Tem | it just makes me feel even worse about killing them for tusks |
| 00:23.00 | JoshBorke | you have no gear |
| 00:23.01 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:23.04 | cladhaire | POACHER |
| 00:23.07 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: i logged naked |
| 00:23.08 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:23.13 | cladhaire | i was dancing outside khara |
| 00:23.13 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 00:23.16 | cladhaire | err gruul |
| 00:23.31 | zenzelezz | Tem: I'm not sure about realistic, but I have trouble killing wolves |
| 00:23.37 | JoshBorke | imp shield sucks! |
| 00:23.48 | JoshBorke | n00b |
| 00:23.49 | Tem | zenzelezz, the whine sound? |
| 00:23.56 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 00:23.59 | Tem | yeah |
| 00:23.59 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: better than silent resolve for a dps/solo grinding priest |
| 00:24.02 | Shadowed | I just kill them all |
| 00:24.02 | cladhaire | and its only 1 point |
| 00:24.05 | Shadowed | it's either me or them |
| 00:24.51 | JoshBorke | meh, to each his own |
| 00:25.27 | Tem | questing in nagrand sucks so much without a flying mount |
| 00:26.33 | Tem | every time I run around one of these obstacles I think, "this would be so much faster with a flying mount" |
| 00:26.45 | Shadowed | Nagrand sucks in general |
| 00:27.03 | zenzelezz | I love Nagrand |
| 00:27.57 | Tem | I like the zone, but navigating around all these gorges and lakes sucks |
| 00:28.23 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 00:36.30 | Shadowed | I just tried to do it by sections so i didn't have to worry about that |
| 00:38.55 | pastamancer | Tem: hah, you think nagrand is bad, wait until blades edge |
| 00:39.07 | Tem | yeah, definitely skipping that place |
| 00:39.26 | Tem | the one time I went in there in beta when we had no GYs made me hate that place |
| 00:39.31 | Shadowed | BEM wasn't so bad, I just skipped everything except the grove area |
| 00:39.45 | Shadowed | was some decent quest XP without having to run to stupid areas |
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| 00:50.32 | Guillotine | BEM is awesome for leveling up for a druid |
| 00:50.38 | Guillotine | just go there at 68 once you get flight form |
| 00:50.47 | Guillotine | tons of quests done EXTREMELY quickly |
| 00:56.24 | cladhaire | Satrina just tanked from 30% to 11% with no offtank on Gruul |
| 00:56.28 | cladhaire | nvm |
| 00:56.29 | cladhaire | 8% |
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| 01:31.42 | Thunder_Child1 | is it the 2.1.0 patch thats coming out tomorrow? |
| 01:32.58 | cladhaire | no |
| 01:33.04 | Thunder_Child1 | ok, thanks |
| 01:33.24 | cladhaire | rolling restarts tomorrow imo |
| 01:40.28 | JoshBorke | but that's actual fact... |
| 01:43.02 | Legorol | no patch |
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| 01:49.59 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: *sigh* lrn2imo |
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| 01:51.42 | cladhaire | Gruul down |
| 01:51.44 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: lrn2shadow, NOOB |
| 01:51.45 | JoshBorke | grats |
| 01:51.45 | cladhaire | on 13 |
| 01:51.49 | Tain | There is only Zuul. |
| 01:55.57 | Thunder_Child1 | Guillotine, ping |
| 01:56.04 | Guillotine | pong |
| 01:56.19 | Thunder_Child1 | hi |
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| 02:04.11 | Tem | cladhaire, JoshBorke doesn't get it imo |
| 02:04.24 | cladhaire | srsly |
| 02:05.14 | JoshBorke | MC'd party members cannot be MC'd |
| 02:05.27 | JoshBorke | you guys can kiss my ass |
| 02:11.23 | Tain | Heroes is still great. (No spoilers, that's all.) |
| 02:12.07 | cladhaire | thx |
| 02:12.14 | cladhaire | watching now |
| 02:13.25 | Tem | I haven't watched the new ones yet |
| 02:13.36 | Tem | (since they started back up) |
| 02:16.11 | Tain | After tonight's there are only 2 episodes left in the season. |
| 02:16.42 | Tem | so we get to find out about the explosion? |
| 02:16.45 | Tem | actually |
| 02:16.48 | Tem | don't tell me |
| 02:17.08 | Tain | That's still the big buildup. Won't know until the finale most likely. |
| 02:19.52 | Tain | The great part about it is it really is believable that they would blow up the city. Sure, they might save it too, but I really can see it happening. |
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| 02:40.12 | ckknight | Tain: I think they're gonna blow it up, honestly |
| 02:40.14 | ckknight | we should place bets. |
| 02:40.40 | Shadowed | It'll blow up, and then they'll find a time machine that lets them prevent it |
| 02:41.29 | ckknight | doubt it |
| 02:41.45 | ckknight | I think season 2 would be better as some kind of coping process |
| 02:41.51 | ckknight | where more heroes are found |
| 02:41.58 | ckknight | and struggle for freedom and such |
| 02:42.06 | ckknight | after the blast |
| 02:42.59 | Tain | I'm really trying not to think about whether or not they'll do it. I'm just going to watch. |
| 02:43.04 | Tain | I can see it going either way easily. |
| 02:43.52 | Legorol | I don't think they'll blow it, it's an American TV series. |
| 02:43.58 | Legorol | Heroes and good guys must prevail |
| 02:44.30 | Legorol | It'd be awesome if they did blow it |
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| 03:26.09 | KarlThePagan | wtf fucking launcher update bullshit fuck |
| 03:26.44 | KarlThePagan | some of my saved vars are gone... right after a launcher update |
| 03:27.05 | Guillotine | have you crashed recently? |
| 03:27.15 | KarlThePagan | nope, but i did disconnect |
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| 03:27.59 | zenzelezz | I can't really see why the launcher would even touch your saved variables; but that's only a logical guess/assumption |
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| 03:28.12 | KarlThePagan | only thinig that changed... so no idea... |
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| 03:28.22 | KarlThePagan | plus my vent key stopped activating PTT :P |
| 03:30.33 | KarlThePagan | force killed wow and came back... phew |
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| 03:37.05 | KarlThePagan | zenzelezz, I think i know what it was! |
| 03:37.08 | KarlThePagan | vista + updater |
| 03:37.32 | KarlThePagan | elevated priviledges made it open a differend Program Data thing... |
| 03:37.37 | KarlThePagan | or... maybe |
| 03:37.46 | KarlThePagan | i need to read up on what elevated priviledges do |
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| 03:58.08 | JoshBorke | oh yea, exalted lower city :-D |
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| 03:59.05 | chronx | ah i found the channel i was looking for :) |
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| 03:59.43 | sysrage | can you swap wands mid-fight? |
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| 04:00.27 | Tem|AFK | yes |
| 04:00.29 | Tem|AFK | it's a weapon |
| 04:00.37 | sysrage | cool. are there any with a ton of spirit on them? |
| 04:00.56 | Tem|AFK | not a ton, but my spirit wand has +13 |
| 04:01.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, i had the most lame dream |
| 04:01.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was arguing about the usefulness of spirit on irc |
| 04:01.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | in a dream |
| 04:01.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 04:01.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't mind doing that in reality, but in a dream, i mean come on |
| 04:01.55 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 04:01.56 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 04:01.57 | sysrage | hah. i had a dream the other night that my war friend got a replacement for his thunderfury so i jacked the TF just to look cool.. i felt like such a loser when i woke up |
| 04:02.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather fight bears with a chainsaw or something interesting at least |
| 04:02.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate those dreams that are so boring, even my subconcious realizes it |
| 04:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't change the channel :[ |
| 04:02.51 | chronx | lol |
| 04:03.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | like a dream where i go to class |
| 04:03.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and sit there for like an hour in "dream time" |
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| 04:33.32 | chronx | is there any good tutorials on how to write the xml part of an addon? |
| 04:33.32 | chronx | wowwiki isn't very helpful -_- |
| 04:39.45 | Cairenn | wiki is only as good as the contributions - if you see a lack, help out with it :) |
| 04:40.31 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 for more author resources, though |
| 04:42.44 | chronx | Cairenn i can't add to wowwiki if i can't learn how to do it to begin with... and wowwiki seems to be the only place for information -_- lol |
| 04:43.53 | MentalPower | Cairenn: theres a blurb in that page thats a bit dated: "World of Warcraft Global and Widget API are both included as native functions, up to version 1.5.0 of the game client (soon to be released). " |
| 04:44.13 | Cairenn | yeah, well, the whole thing needs to be basically re-written at this point |
| 04:44.17 | MentalPower | Dreamweaver code coloring under Lua editos |
| 04:44.22 | MentalPower | editors* |
| 04:44.24 | MentalPower | :) |
| 04:44.35 | Cairenn | unfortunately, I've just got so much on my plate it's getting very hard for me to keep up |
| 04:45.00 | Cairenn | if someone would update the sibling posts on the wiki, I could get them copied back over to that thread |
| 04:46.22 | Cairenn | it's the same old story as always - those that do the contributing all over the place end up spread too thin |
| 04:46.37 | Cairenn | chronx: I know, was just saying =/ |
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| 04:54.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | only thing i've managed to contribute to the wiki is some spelling checks about past hyjal like a year ago :p |
| 04:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i remember it being horrendous spelling but in hindsight it wasn't really that bad |
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| 05:09.11 | Deja | question: is there any way to get photoshop to save a targa file in a manner that WoW can actually display? |
| 05:10.04 | Karrion | Deja: I believe it has to have an alpha channel and both dimensions must be a power of two |
| 05:10.53 | Deja | I've done that. I've even taken an image from another addon and copied it into my own addon and it works, but if I open it in photoshop and re-save it (changing nothing else), all I get is a solid green box |
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| 05:12.31 | Cairenn | are you sure you are maintaining the alpha channel when you re-save it? |
| 05:13.47 | Deja | well, this is part of what's perplexing to me. When I go to resave it, photoshop grays out the "Alpha Channel" option, so I can't keep it. I'm not sure how to get photoshop to allow the alpha data to be maintained |
| 05:14.16 | Cairenn | now why on earth would it be doing that |
| 05:14.25 | Cairenn | the ONLY thing you do is open it, hit save, and close it? |
| 05:14.45 | Deja | correct |
| 05:14.55 | Cairenn | that makes no sense |
| 05:15.08 | Cairenn | not even a "save as", just a pure "save"? |
| 05:15.15 | Deja | actually, this is quite bizarre... I opened an image from another mod and it gives me the option to save the alpha channel |
| 05:15.35 | MentalPower | well, green box == unable to load texture |
| 05:15.35 | Deja | I'm doing save as, because I'm not making any changes to the document, so I can't straight "save" |
| 05:15.50 | Deja | MentalPower: I figured as much :( |
| 05:15.52 | MentalPower | you sure that you restarted WoW after you messed with the texture? |
| 05:15.53 | Cairenn | sure you can |
| 05:16.09 | Deja | the option is grayed out in photoshop |
| 05:16.14 | batrick | is pairs() guaranteed to give the table elements in order if they are indexed by numbers? |
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| 05:16.24 | MentalPower | batrick: negative |
| 05:16.31 | batrick | ah damn :( |
| 05:16.37 | Cairenn | if you are doing "save as", make sure you are saving it as 32 bit (24 plus alpha) |
| 05:16.38 | MentalPower | ise ipairs() |
| 05:16.39 | Deja | MentalPower: I reload the UI, do I have to completely restart the program? |
| 05:16.41 | MentalPower | use |
| 05:16.45 | Cairenn | yes |
| 05:16.45 | MentalPower | derestart |
| 05:16.47 | Deja | Cairenn, am doing |
| 05:16.49 | MentalPower | Deja: restart |
| 05:17.02 | MentalPower | batrick: use ipairs() or your own for loop |
| 05:17.14 | batrick | so for i in ipairs(table) do end will give them in order |
| 05:17.27 | batrick | ? |
| 05:17.32 | MentalPower | from 1 till it encounters nil |
| 05:17.37 | batrick | kk |
| 05:17.40 | batrick | thanks ^^ |
| 05:18.44 | Cairenn | which version of PS? |
| 05:19.02 | MentalPower | batrick: np, anytime |
| 05:19.06 | Deja | okay, so to make sure I understand this correctly, if I make any changes to the images, I need to exit the wow.exe program and start it anew before the data will be available? |
| 05:19.10 | Deja | CS2 |
| 05:19.15 | Cairenn | yes |
| 05:19.26 | Deja | okay, that could be the problem |
| 05:19.40 | Deja | and also quite annoying :P |
| 05:19.51 | MentalPower | if its an existing image no, if ita a new one yes |
| 05:19.57 | MentalPower | s/ita/its/ |
| 05:20.13 | Cairenn | the image needs to be power of 2 (not multiple, power), need to save as 32 bit (24 plus alpha) |
| 05:20.29 | Cairenn | (just re-iterating) |
| 05:21.05 | MentalPower | and the alpha info needs to be on its own channel, not embedded into the other three (RGB) |
| 05:21.13 | Deja | ahah... that was the problem |
| 05:21.24 | Deja | I had never restarted since I created the images |
| 05:21.37 | Deja | now they're working (except for targa's inverse alpha :P) |
| 05:21.55 | Deja | or... my inverse alpha :P |
| 05:22.00 | Corrodias | wtf |
| 05:22.09 | Corrodias | why do all these people think we want to see videos of them attacking bosses? |
| 05:22.44 | Corrodias | a few videos? that can be instructive. six different magtheridon videos? getting a little excessive. |
| 05:23.43 | MentalPower | Deja: so long as you don't add new textures, you can just ReloadUI() after making changes to *existing* textures |
| 05:24.35 | Deja | ah, good to know |
| 05:24.58 | Deja | this is the kind of information that needs to be documented in the wiki :P |
| 05:25.32 | MentalPower | go add it! |
| 05:26.00 | Cairenn | a lot of graphics stuff is discussed at WoWI (more so than at the wiki, I think) |
| 05:30.51 | Deja | Thanks for all your help |
| 05:30.51 | Deja | 'night |
| 05:30.56 | Cairenn | good luck :) |
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| 06:10.20 | shins | hi |
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| 06:12.31 | shins | from what i have found, i think the answer is no, but does anyone know if there is an event that gets sent when thier is a new radar blip on the minimap? |
| 06:20.58 | Shadowed | There is |
| 06:21.20 | Shadowed | MINIMAP_PING |
| 06:21.32 | pastamancer | I don't think that's what he was asking for |
| 06:21.34 | shins | those are player sent |
| 06:21.49 | shins | i am thinking about the blips from resources and tracking and such |
| 06:21.56 | pastamancer | that would be a no |
| 06:22.06 | shins | that is what i gathered |
| 06:22.06 | pastamancer | the minimap blips are purposefully off limits |
| 06:22.53 | shins | yeah, thanks for the info |
| 06:22.56 | pastamancer | if you happen to mouse over one and get the tooltip, that's fair game AFAIK |
| 06:23.20 | shins | yeah i was thinking more along the lines of just an event saying there was one on the screen |
| 06:23.26 | pastamancer | nope |
| 06:23.44 | shins | to make it easier looking for resources |
| 06:24.08 | pastamancer | the dots on thie minimap are drawn in the C side of things, they're not even separate textures as far as the lua ui is concerned |
| 06:24.44 | Shadowed | oh from that |
| 06:24.45 | shins | yeah so it just sees the minimap frame and the blip is a child of that? |
| 06:24.55 | shins | that you could only mouse over |
| 06:25.08 | shins | but no boolean saying it is there or not |
| 06:25.19 | Shadowed | You an do it by scaling the minimap to 0.1 and moving it under the players mouse then checking to see if any of the mouseover text pops up |
| 06:25.23 | Shadowed | an = can |
| 06:25.30 | pastamancer | I don't even think you can use the unnamed children trick that people are using to modify the nameplates |
| 06:25.35 | Shadowed | You can't |
| 06:25.44 | Shadowed | But it's a rather hack way of scanning and it's not going to be something you can do without the user noticing |
| 06:26.00 | shins | yeah not what i would want to do |
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| 06:26.30 | Shadowed | You're trying to make something that plays a sound or such when a blip appears I take it? |
| 06:26.35 | shins | yep |
| 06:27.10 | shins | or even something to the chatpane |
| 06:27.20 | shins | the problem is getting it to notice there is an event |
| 06:28.07 | Shadowed | Yeah you can't do that without scaling/moving, as people said it's on purpose |
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| 06:29.44 | Esamynn|Code | anyone around who could log onto the pvp test realm to help me out with some tests? |
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| 06:52.09 | Corrodias | oh man, i DO just love this movie: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=36513 |
| 06:54.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like learn2play more |
| 06:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | though that one's good |
| 06:54.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | learn2play is just awesome |
| 06:55.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's so amazingly well done |
| 06:55.14 | Corrodias | i believe i've downloaded that one |
| 06:55.16 | Corrodias | haven't watched it |
| 06:56.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ctVrpQ-orss |
| 06:56.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | watch it :O |
| 06:56.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | Myndflame is pretty much awesome |
| 06:56.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't wait for illegal danish 2 |
| 06:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially if zinwrath returns |
| 06:57.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | the camera work towards the end of learn 2 play is amazing |
| 06:57.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | with the ghosts and stuff |
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| 07:00.22 | Corrodias | just watched, very nice! |
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| 07:16.43 | Corrodias | it seems media player classic has trouble scaling video when i want to enlarge it, with some videos |
| 07:16.52 | Corrodias | windows media player does not |
| 07:17.11 | Corrodias | then again, when i seek in a large mp3, i have to wait a few seconds for it to start playing, which doesn't happen on the computers at work |
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| 07:24.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr, it's an option you probably accidentally changed |
| 07:24.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme find it |
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| 07:25.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | right click and go to video frame |
| 07:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | mess with options in there |
| 07:26.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | Touch Window from Inside is the one i use |
| 07:26.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it was trying to strech my 4:3 video to 16:9 |
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| 08:31.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | ugh |
| 08:32.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | thiis mage in my party |
| 08:32.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | is in purples |
| 08:32.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and WONT LISTEN TO the raid icon assignments |
| 08:32.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | he sheeps whatever he wants, won't attack the skull that i labeled as the "focus fire target" |
| 08:32.46 | [Ammo] | remove him, replace him |
| 08:32.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | rest of the group is in his guild |
| 08:35.02 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 08:35.28 | [Ammo] | ok different plan |
| 08:35.31 | [Ammo] | see what he is targetting |
| 08:35.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just let him tank |
| 08:35.35 | [Ammo] | and DON'T tank that |
| 08:36.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's been seconds from death about 10 times so far |
| 08:36.36 | krka | omg still only in purples? |
| 08:36.38 | krka | what a n00b |
| 08:37.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, he's in 70 purples |
| 08:37.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | "i'm markinig what i think should be sheeped" |
| 08:37.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i make him leader |
| 08:38.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 08:38.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | "i'm sheeping what i think should be sheeped" |
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| 10:22.43 | Kaso | Haha |
| 10:22.48 | Kaso | protected GM tickets |
| 10:22.51 | Kaso | good change |
| 10:25.03 | Neebler | ellaborate please |
| 10:26.41 | Kaso | "Slouken says: Submitting or editing a GM ticket is now a protected action, and may not be done by third party AddOns." |
| 10:27.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | Night Elf Hunter says: How much Primal Life is cost? |
| 10:27.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh, i didn't submit a GM ticket with spamsentry anyway |
| 10:27.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but other than countless spamsentry....spam to GMs |
| 10:28.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's the reason? is that the sole reason? |
| 10:28.20 | Kaso | Pretty much i'd imagen |
| 10:29.06 | Kaso | its a justified change, its stupid people submitting automatic tickets, just bogs the whole system down and causes people like me who's quest is bugged to have to wait 1hr or something |
| 10:29.16 | JunkHead-Work | So.... Blizzard doesn't like us spamming them about spammers? |
| 10:29.24 | Kaso | haha |
| 10:29.31 | sancus | maybe they should stop the spammers then :P |
| 10:29.35 | JunkHead-Work | Imagine that. |
| 10:29.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it would be pretty nifty if he used some kind of hidden channel |
| 10:29.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | so that only one person reported the same name |
| 10:30.00 | [Ammo] | this change won't affect the amount of gm tickets |
| 10:30.08 | [Ammo] | just requires more clicks |
| 10:30.10 | Kaso | "jasdahsda is spamming" -- woah useful, just asdahsda's trial account was closed down like 1hr ago, this ticket is pointless |
| 10:30.16 | [Ammo] | since you have to manually click the 'send' button |
| 10:30.18 | sancus | most people wont bother to submit tickets if it's not automated |
| 10:30.18 | [Ammo] | that's all |
| 10:30.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | can trial accounts send whispers now? |
| 10:30.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend couldn't on his |
| 10:30.37 | Kaso | sure? |
| 10:30.42 | JunkHead-Work | I didn't think trial acocunts could whisper or use mail. |
| 10:30.56 | Kaso | i knew they couldnt mail but i thought they could still whisper |
| 10:30.57 | JunkHead-Work | At least that's how it was about a year ago. |
| 10:30.59 | Kaso | perhaps i am wrong |
| 10:32.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was about a year ago |
| 10:32.38 | zenzelezz | did they receive tells? |
| 10:32.51 | zenzelezz | must seem frustrating if you got them but couldn't talk back |
| 10:33.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know, i think so |
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| 13:03.32 | Industrial | Anyone have experience with any proxy server? Im looking for a (free) proxy for use with pandora.com . It has tno be located in the US. They blocked all non US, but im scared of lag with a proxy :( now sure how good it will work. |
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| 14:35.20 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | New Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please. | "May irritate eyes." -- On a can of self-defense pepper spray. |
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| 15:44.07 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0xbZZV' |
| 15:44.12 | Industrial | this is my 22 rogue spec so far |
| 15:44.27 | Industrial | im critting 350+ backstab wich makes for insta kills on yellow caster mobs. |
| 15:44.41 | Industrial | but thats not the desired leveling spec right? |
| 15:44.49 | Industrial | was told to go "swords"b ut dont know anything about it. |
| 15:45.14 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0xbZZV |
| 15:45.36 | Kaso | Well in my experience the problem with daggers for leveling is most the time the mobs are looking at you |
| 15:46.04 | Industrial | havent had problems so far |
| 15:46.23 | Industrial | but i justwant whats best :> |
| 15:46.30 | Kaso | On my rogue i like to max out Malice Ruthlessness and Relentless strikes to start with |
| 15:46.37 | Industrial | leveling together with a pally too |
| 15:46.38 | Industrial | ok |
| 15:47.02 | Kaso | murder sucks arse. |
| 15:47.15 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 15:47.18 | Industrial | what instead then? |
| 15:47.25 | Fin | mace levelling ftw! |
| 15:47.27 | cogwheel|work | Oooooo... Look what I just found in UnitPopup.lua from the PTR: UnitPopupMenus["FRIEND"] = { "WHISPER", "INVITE", "TARGET", "IGNORE", "REPORT_SPAM", "GUILD_PROMOTE", "GUILD_LEAVE", "CANCEL" }; |
| 15:47.28 | Industrial | remorseless attacks? |
| 15:47.38 | cogwheel|work | emphasis on "REPORT_SPAM" |
| 15:47.39 | Industrial | Fin: all your advice are belong to me |
| 15:48.09 | Fin | Industrial: seriously, Maces Make Sense |
| 15:48.38 | Industrial | Fin: this is my first rogue |
| 15:48.53 | Fin | there's a nice series of BoE maces you can get made / pick up at the AH that get better as you level up (if you know what I mean) |
| 15:49.00 | Fin | Industrial: I... thought you were a rogue? |
| 15:51.42 | Industrial | nop |
| 15:51.46 | Industrial | hunter mostly |
| 15:52.08 | Fin | the stuns you get from talents are actually really useful, there's a nice series of weapons to get, plus it's ace with blade flurry |
| 15:52.13 | Fin | oh, my mistake then |
| 15:52.40 | Fin | then switch to swords later on if you're not raiding |
| 15:52.47 | Fin | I really enjoyed levelling my rogue |
| 15:54.23 | Fin | for talents, get riposte as soon as you can, then get blade flurry as soon as you can, then get adrenalin rush |
| 15:54.53 | Fin | blade flurry + adrenalin rush = fun for all the family |
| 15:55.08 | Fin | * except whatever you're slaughtering |
| 15:56.23 | Fin | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f |
| 15:56.59 | Fin | er |
| 15:57.01 | Fin | hello |
| 15:57.12 | Fin | I have just started using the internet and do not yet undestand the concept of URLs |
| 15:57.19 | Fin | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=whxZMxEdMVt00ho |
| 15:57.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:57.47 | Fin | hi! I've now been on the internet 5 minutes and have learned how to tell other people about web pages I think they should see |
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| 15:57.54 | Fin | +r |
| 16:07.11 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | New Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please. | "you can't really fail at puns... attempt is success!" - krka |
| 16:15.52 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/ |
| 16:16.14 | TC-Working | blah, you would make a pun related motd |
| 16:16.55 | TC-Working | thats a great link btw Cairenn|afk, i think i have gone through almost every one of them |
| 16:17.03 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
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| 16:25.48 | sysrage | great site |
| 16:30.06 | sysrage | My computer's telling me I performed an illegal abortion! |
| 16:31.09 | Fin | f/me feels the love |
| 16:31.10 | Fin | -f |
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| 16:34.58 | sysrage | zomg i need a new sea monster battery |
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| 16:44.59 | Fin | what is a sea monster battery? |
| 16:45.24 | zenzelezz | it's like the Energizer bunny, only more wet and slippery |
| 16:45.29 | TC-Working | honestly i figured a sea monster was a dildo |
| 16:45.55 | TC-Working | couldnt seem to find one on line though so there went my reaserch |
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| 16:57.00 | cogwheel|work | I am going to have to start answering posts with "I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." |
| 16:58.16 | Vilkku | >< |
| 16:58.17 | Josh_Borke | or you could say: "huh?" |
| 16:58.29 | pastamancer | that's a lot of words to say "lol wut?" |
| 16:58.33 | Vilkku | instead tell me why I'm stuck on auth when I logged in fine 10 mins ago |
| 17:00.26 | cogwheel|work | i don't think i could ever stoop to "lol wut" despite the fact that it encompasses precisely the intended idea... |
| 17:01.52 | pastamancer | The biggest problem with taking the "lol wut" route would be to ensure that the full weight of your intended sarcasm and irony is felt. |
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| 17:05.49 | Kaydeethree | that's kinda difficult on the ui forums |
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| 17:07.58 | Kaydeethree | and wow... what'd I miss in the 2.1 changes thread? slouken deleted a page and a half of posts |
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| 17:15.25 | cogwheel|work | there was a mild uproar from all the people who have been recently whining about gold spam... |
| 17:15.38 | cogwheel|work | in reaction to the blocking of GM ticket functions |
| 17:15.49 | Kaydeethree | hrm |
| 17:17.54 | sysrage | just install spamsentry. blocks the spam. no need to waste anybodies time reporting them |
| 17:18.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i don't bother reporting them |
| 17:18.14 | cogwheel|work | SpamSentry was one of the very reasons they were whining... |
| 17:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | but seeing S:12 at the top of my screen after 3 hours of play makes me giddy |
| 17:18.31 | cogwheel|work | They didn't like the fact that it would no longer be able to automatically generate reports |
| 17:18.45 | Kaso | " |
| 17:18.45 | Kaso | This is a needed and justified change, people spamming gm tickets on SpamSentry are the reason it takes 1hr to get a GM when your quest bugs, good riddance i say" |
| 17:18.50 | sysrage | *shrug* i can't imagine those reports ever helped anyway |
| 17:18.51 | Kaso | What i had to say in EU forums about it |
| 17:19.06 | sysrage | agreed kaso |
| 17:19.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | GMs probably can search tickets by content |
| 17:19.20 | cogwheel|work | The problem was that people were saving up their SpamSentry tickets and submitting them when they log out |
| 17:19.33 | Kaydeethree | which inspired this post in CS: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98705820&sid=1 |
| 17:19.34 | cogwheel|work | By the time they do, the accounts have usually already been investigated |
| 17:19.39 | Kaso | but theyre still forced to anwser each one Mr_Rabies |
| 17:19.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | not if you put "no reply is necessary" |
| 17:20.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll just say, "ticket has been read and appropriate action has been taken, but we cannot disclose what said action is blah blah copy and paste macro type thing" |
| 17:20.25 | Kaso | thats a recentl change, that not all GMs are following in my experiance |
| 17:20.34 | cogwheel|work | But since they're adding a "Report Spam" option to the right-click-on-a-name menu, it's all pretty moot :P |
| 17:20.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | at the most |
| 17:20.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll add a report spam button to your mom |
| 17:21.40 | Cairenn | most moms come with one of those built in |
| 17:22.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of them tend to read said spam and mindlessly open attachments |
| 17:22.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 17:22.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh mom, will you ever lern2internet :( |
| 17:22.50 | Gnarfoz | not gonna happen |
| 17:23.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's okay, my dad's never even attempted to turn on a computer |
| 17:25.07 | Kaso | Im sorta concerned how this report spam thing will work though, i mean will it be automated? can i get my whole guild to report someone i dont like to get them blocked for however long cos im evil ? |
| 17:26.23 | sysrage | if it's automated at all which i doubt, it will be like spamsentry and check level, guild, etc before just blocking somebody |
| 17:26.29 | Josh_Borke | who knows freebsd? |
| 17:27.05 | sysrage | they just need to build spamsentry into the game. it works perfectly for me |
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| 17:31.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | they sorta already have |
| 17:31.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | the thing is they can't keep up with the filters like spamsentry |
| 17:31.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | ...yet. |
| 17:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless they build it into warden where it's easily upgradable |
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| 17:34.40 | Kaydeethree | unless it's serverside |
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| 17:39.55 | chiroaz | hello? |
| 17:39.59 | cogwheel|work | no |
| 17:40.09 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 17:40.24 | chiroaz | can anyone here assist me with the auctioneer mod? |
| 17:41.03 | cogwheel|work | #norganna would be a better channel |
| 17:41.12 | chiroaz | ok ty |
| 17:41.19 | cogwheel|work | np :) |
| 17:41.36 | chiroaz | "/join #norganna |
| 17:41.38 | chiroaz | lol |
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| 17:45.00 | Deja | does anyone know off the top of their head the command to access the texcoords of a texture in lua? |
| 17:46.02 | Elkano | :SetTexCoord ? |
| 17:46.21 | haste | :GetTexCoord |
| 17:47.09 | Deja | ah, :SetTexCoord thanks |
| 17:50.34 | Deja | now, how do I get the texture object by name? |
| 17:51.32 | Elkano | -> http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#Texture |
| 17:51.56 | Deja | Yes, I'm at that page, but it doesn't say how to get the texture object |
| 17:52.38 | Elkano | well, depends on what you mean by "texture object" |
| 17:53.14 | Deja | meaning, in lua, how do I get the Texture in Texture:SetTexCoord(...)? |
| 17:53.30 | Elkano | you don't get it, you have it :P |
| 17:54.02 | Deja | if I have <texture name="tex"> in the .xml, how do I modify that texture in lua? |
| 17:54.07 | Elkano | eg since you created it yourself via :CreateTexture |
| 17:54.29 | Elkano | try tex:SetTexCoord(...) |
| 17:54.29 | Deja | ah, see, I did not create it in lua, I'm wanting to modify an xml definition |
| 17:54.57 | Elkano | well, the stuff from xml should be accessable, too |
| 17:56.59 | Deja | hm... let me try it |
| 18:00.41 | dukeku | WHY IS YOUR BATHROOM SO DIRTY |
| 18:00.46 | dukeku | WHY ARE YOU SO FILTHY? |
| 18:00.49 | dukeku | DIRTY DIRTY DIRTY |
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| 18:06.23 | Deja | hm... it seems to have done something : |
| 18:11.32 | Deja | ah... that works, thanks |
| 18:21.41 | Elkano | you're welcome... my bank account is linked with on my mod pages ;) |
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| 18:55.31 | Beladona | survey: who thinks it would make more sense to only show changed files on wdn compares, and not a full file listing |
| 18:56.09 | cogwheel|work | I like the full listing |
| 18:56.22 | cogwheel|work | it gives you an easy way to browse the code |
| 18:56.25 | zenzelezz | allow both |
| 18:56.27 | Kaydeethree | ^ |
| 18:56.34 | Kaydeethree | er, "I agree with cogwheel" |
| 18:56.58 | cogwheel|work | I agree with zenz if it isn't too much work :P |
| 18:57.30 | pastamancer | if we could sort by name/modified that would be slick |
| 18:58.09 | Beladona | I would be splitting it |
| 18:58.19 | Beladona | there would be a source code section to view any version |
| 18:58.30 | Beladona | the compares would just be condensed to onyl those files that changed |
| 18:58.59 | Beladona | you think that would work for most people? |
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| 19:03.30 | Kaydeethree | oh, wow. something tells me stratics is going to crash and burn in a week |
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| 19:09.07 | pastamancer | Beladona: I like to see what's changed, but I also like being able to get from that quickly to the list of all the files. What about adding a show/hide unchanged (since last patch) link/button to the index view? |
| 19:09.33 | pastamancer | it could probably be done pretty easily with javascript |
| 19:10.55 | Beladona | yeah that would make sense |
| 19:11.06 | Beladona | nah I would do an actual separate page |
| 19:11.16 | Beladona | basically a "browse repository" |
| 19:11.25 | Beladona | but the "show unchanged" would show everything |
| 19:11.30 | Beladona | for that version |
| 19:11.56 | Beladona | or heck, just make the header clickable (the version title) and it goes to the directory list for that version |
| 19:12.13 | pastamancer | usually I look at wdn so I don't have to bother extracting and archiving every interface revision locally |
| 19:12.50 | pastamancer | so seeing what changed since the last revision in the index view is helpful to me |
| 19:12.52 | Kaso | Would it be possible to make a "Pseudo-channel", eg, i type /myaddon then it switches into MyAddon: [ ] in the chat box? and similary make it sticky like channels? |
| 19:14.15 | cogwheel|work | It's possible |
| 19:14.19 | cogwheel|work | Sea does it |
| 19:14.29 | cogwheel|work | You can use that as a library or as an example |
| 19:16.06 | Vilkku | hello peoples. |
| 19:16.12 | Vilkku | I need some advice |
| 19:16.19 | Elkano | maybe prat's plugin allows the same |
| 19:17.07 | Vilkku | conserning Bloodlust and the events... is there an event that only happens when I cast bloodlust, and one that only happens when someone else casts it (both resulting in me getting the buff) |
| 19:17.13 | Vilkku | ? |
| 19:17.39 | pastamancer | UNIT_AURA |
| 19:18.00 | Kaso | thanks cogwheel|work ill take a look at that |
| 19:18.27 | Vilkku | pastamancer, how does that figure out who cast the buff? |
| 19:18.39 | Kaso | you can check what you are casting yourself |
| 19:18.59 | pastamancer | Vilkku: you want to know when someone is casting it or when someone gets the buff? |
| 19:19.17 | cogwheel|work | Kaso: sorry... it's Sky not Sea... http://www.wowwiki.com/Sky |
| 19:19.20 | Vilkku | let me try to explain, might be a bit weird |
| 19:19.48 | cogwheel|work | Kaso: wait... i'm very confused now... it's one of those cosmos libs... |
| 19:20.03 | Vilkku | I need to fire the event when I get the buff, but my addon is supposed to do separate things depending on if I cast Bloodlust or if someone else in my party did it |
| 19:20.05 | Kaso | AnduinLothar ! |
| 19:20.41 | cogwheel|work | Kaso: Heeeere we go... http://www.wowwiki.com/Satellite |
| 19:20.53 | Kaso | woot |
| 19:21.53 | Vilkku | so I am the one getting the buff in both cases, but I need an event that only triggers when I cast Bloodlust myself |
| 19:21.54 | pastamancer | Vilkku: then you will use UNIT_AURA to detect when you get the buff and UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT to detect when you cast it |
| 19:23.25 | Vilkku | thanks :D |
| 19:23.31 | pastamancer | you'll also need to keep track of when you cast it because you will get UNIT_AURA no matter who casts it |
| 19:24.08 | Vilkku | isn't UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT enough on its own? it seems to have an arg for the name of the spell |
| 19:24.20 | Vilkku | wait, nevermind |
| 19:24.27 | pastamancer | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT is only for the player |
| 19:24.31 | Vilkku | I want it to trigger when I'm not the caster, yes |
| 19:24.34 | Vilkku | thanks |
| 19:26.08 | pastamancer | you might want to try UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED if you don't care about who your target is when you cast bloodlust |
| 19:41.28 | Vilkku | hmm, pastamancer still there? |
| 19:41.39 | Vilkku | if (event == "UNIT_AURA") and (arg1 == "player") and (arg2 == "Bloodlust") and (arg3 == "1") |
| 19:41.46 | Vilkku | should fire when I gain bloodlust, right? |
| 19:44.27 | pastamancer | probably |
| 19:45.18 | TC-Working | i really feel like killing some one atm |
| 19:45.45 | Vilkku | pastamancer, mabye I should put it this way... that code I just pasted does not work :P |
| 19:46.16 | pastamancer | then you should get devtools and see what args you are getting |
| 19:46.32 | wereHamster | TC-Working, why? |
| 19:46.47 | TC-Working | retarded people + exchange |
| 19:47.28 | wereHamster | here, kill this poor soul: o|-< |
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| 19:49.30 | TC-Working | ~slay o|-< |
| 19:49.32 | purl | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, o|-<!" apt lops off o|-<'s head. |
| 19:49.43 | cogwheel|work | |-< |
| 19:49.46 | cogwheel|work | o |
| 19:51.46 | Vilkku | more questions for you pastamancer... how do I get it to show the args? >< |
| 19:52.52 | pastamancer | after you filter the event window to get just the events you want, you should be able to mouseover the event and devtools will display the args in a little tooltip |
| 19:54.40 | Vilkku | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/tools/miscellaneous/devtools/ <- that devtools? |
| 19:54.52 | TC-Working | ~devtools |
| 19:55.38 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 19:55.38 | TC-Working | meh? |
| 19:55.38 | cogwheel|work | ~lart purl |
| 19:55.38 | purl | executes killall -KILL cogwheel|work |
| 19:55.38 | [dRaCo] | ckk: updated, same behaviour as before |
| 19:55.39 | TC-Working | purl must be slow atm |
| 19:55.45 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: and it's borked right now? |
| 19:55.56 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 19:55.57 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: /script PitBull:UpdateAll() |
| 19:56.07 | [dRaCo] | wrong channel btw, sorry |
| 19:56.07 | cogwheel|work | ~slap |
| 19:56.18 | cogwheel|work | ~botsmack |
| 19:56.20 | purl | OWW! |
| 19:56.20 | [dRaCo] | fine now |
| 19:56.38 | TC-Working | Vilkku, you got the link? |
| 19:57.12 | Vilkku | TC-Working, yes thanks |
| 19:57.21 | TC-Working | ok, great |
| 20:06.45 | Vilkku | hmm, seems like UNIT_AURA wasn't fired at all, it was CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS |
| 20:07.09 | pastamancer | you'll get both |
| 20:07.28 | Vilkku | well, I'll stick to CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS, it worked using that |
| 20:07.37 | pastamancer | UNIT_AURA is fired when you (or any primary unit) gain or lose a buff |
| 20:07.56 | pastamancer | I would recommend against that |
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| 20:42.42 | Kaydeethree | curse you, "server is busy" |
| 20:43.13 | cogwheel|work | what do you think is going on? |
| 20:43.19 | cogwheel|work | there's no patch today... |
| 20:43.26 | TC-Working | i bet the server is busy |
| 20:43.26 | cogwheel|work | no maintenance |
| 20:43.32 | TC-Working | but thats just a guess.... |
| 20:43.33 | cogwheel|work | ~rimshot |
| 20:43.36 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 20:43.41 | Kaydeethree | more whining in general than usual? |
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| 21:00.28 | chronx | helloo |
| 21:00.49 | chronx | anyone care to explain the difference between "point" and "relativePoint" in an <Anchor> tag? |
| 21:01.11 | cogwheel|work | point is the point of the frame you are anchoring. relativePoint is the point on the frame you're anchoring *to* |
| 21:01.28 | cogwheel|work | (aka the relativeTo) |
| 21:01.47 | chronx | hmmmm |
| 21:02.11 | cogwheel|work | point="TOPLEFT" relativeTo="someFrame" relativePoint="BOTTOMLEFT" means "anchor my top left corner to someFrame's bottom left corner" |
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| 21:02.33 | chronx | i see |
| 21:02.45 | chronx | what if relativeTo wasn't specified? |
| 21:02.53 | cogwheel|work | then it defaults to the parent |
| 21:03.05 | chronx | which would be UIParent in my case |
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| 21:07.50 | chronx | xml interface is pretty nifty |
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| 21:08.30 | Cide | does anyone happen to be on PTR right now (pve, horde)? |
| 21:08.38 | cogwheel|work | especially when you get your hands on an XML editor with autocomplete :P |
| 21:08.48 | chronx | example? |
| 21:08.52 | cogwheel|work | pffft... horde |
| 21:08.53 | chronx | i need a good xml editor |
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| 21:09.06 | Cide | cogwheel|work: log on a level 1! |
| 21:09.08 | chronx | i'm using blua alpha heh |
| 21:09.20 | cogwheel|work | chronx: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML |
| 21:09.39 | chronx | good thing i have vs.net :P |
| 21:09.42 | cogwheel|work | Cide: if you don't need me to interact with you much in-game, i'd be happy to :P |
| 21:09.58 | Cide | sure, just need a person to invite |
| 21:10.07 | cogwheel|work | chronx: I'm not sure how the .net version works the same way as the 2005 version... |
| 21:10.52 | cogwheel|work | s/how/if/ |
| 21:10.56 | chronx | i'll take a look at it |
| 21:11.06 | cogwheel|work | Cide: nm... need to patch :( |
| 21:11.10 | Cide | bah :) |
| 21:11.25 | AnduinLothar | Kaso: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5240-ExtraChannels.html |
| 21:12.22 | AnduinLothar | or for more of an addon implementation of a custom chat type us Satellite. |
| 21:12.51 | AnduinLothar | but ExtraChannels or ClassChannels are examples of how to use Satellite |
| 21:13.37 | Kaso | Yah ive already taken a look at satellite and its pretty much exactly what i wanted, we have an existing guild addon that implements a few guild channels, but i hate how i have to do /hz whatever each time, satellite will plug in nicely and fix that |
| 21:13.51 | AnduinLothar | glad to hear it |
| 21:14.11 | Kaydeethree | cide; you still need someone on the ptr? |
| 21:14.15 | Cide | ya |
| 21:14.25 | Kaydeethree | gimme a sec, I'll create a horde toon |
| 21:15.32 | Kaydeethree | 'Kaydeeptr' is now sitting in the valley of trials |
| 21:15.44 | chronx | heh.. i got a basic window that inherits from a core frame now... but idk how to make anything interesting happen.. like event handling |
| 21:17.15 | cogwheel|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 21:18.01 | cogwheel|work | and http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#Scripts |
| 21:20.31 | chronx | can i do somthing like parent="this" ? |
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| 21:21.02 | chronx | ah parent="$parent" perhaps? hmmm |
| 21:22.48 | Kaso | can you do that ^_- |
| 21:25.00 | sysrage | http://www.heavy.com/video/12720 <-- new epic mount for engineers |
| 21:26.00 | chronx | ... |
| 21:26.04 | chronx | old -_- lol |
| 21:26.11 | chronx | huge waste of money imo |
| 21:26.31 | sysrage | i think it's damn cool |
| 21:28.18 | chronx | need to work on turning lol |
| 21:28.31 | chronx | and 30,000 man hours? thats a loooot |
| 21:31.19 | chronx | i can't get a button to show up :| |
| 21:32.13 | chronx | i put a <Button></Button> tag in my xml file, filled out with <Size>, <ButtonText>, <NormalFont>, and <HighlightFont> tags and still no button |
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| 21:35.49 | nymbia | chronx: does it exist? |
| 21:35.59 | chronx | eh? |
| 21:36.19 | nymbia | chronx: ie /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(ButtonName(( |
| 21:36.29 | nymbia | s/((/))/ |
| 21:36.33 | cogwheel|work | chronx: stick your code up on pastey |
| 21:36.54 | cogwheel|work | also, check your FrameXML.log... there might be an error |
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| 21:45.41 | chronx | purl no the button doesn't exist :| thats certainly a problem |
| 21:46.59 | chronx | ok ok, i'll paste my xml if you promise not to laugh ^_^ |
| 21:48.09 | chronx | http://wowi.pastey.net/24556 |
| 21:49.48 | TC-Working | ~lol chronx |
| 21:50.02 | chronx | waaaaa :''( lol |
| 21:50.16 | TC-Working | well that didt work as well as i thought |
| 21:50.21 | TC-Working | ~laugh chronx |
| 21:50.24 | purl | ibot laughs hysterically at chronx...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 21:50.44 | TC-Working | ehhh....no |
| 21:50.45 | chronx | ~slap purl |
| 21:50.47 | purl | ACTION slaps purl, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:50.47 | TC-Working | purl you fail |
| 21:50.49 | purl | ACTION slaps you for calling her a failure. |
| 21:51.00 | chronx | heh |
| 21:51.04 | chronx | her? |
| 21:51.18 | TC-Working | yea, there is some debate on purls sex |
| 21:51.23 | chronx | lol |
| 21:51.25 | cogwheel|work | chronx: you button isn't in a frame |
| 21:51.29 | cogwheel|work | s/you/your/ |
| 21:51.39 | TC-Working | personaly i say purl is a she, but to each their own |
| 21:51.58 | chronx | ehh.. line 60 and 61 is my button in the frame |
| 21:52.55 | Industrial | hmm, is there any way i can get RSS to mail me? gmail seems to have the best control over read/unread ive seen so far :P (found google reader sucking cause it randomly marked everything read) |
| 21:52.56 | cogwheel|work | well, it doesn't have any appearance specifications (fonts, images, etc.) |
| 21:53.19 | Industrial | kergoth: i bet you know :P |
| 21:53.38 | chronx | it did before i changed it ;P i'll add some appearance specs then |
| 21:54.12 | TC-Working | Industrial, if you use outlook it has an rss feed in it |
| 21:54.22 | Industrial | no, gmail |
| 21:54.38 | TC-Working | gmail --> outloock |
| 21:54.42 | TC-Working | outlook* |
| 21:54.45 | TC-Working | that how i have it |
| 21:56.47 | chronx | cogwheel|work still nothing even with ButtonText, NormalFont, and HighlightFont |
| 21:57.12 | cogwheel|work | well pastey that then... maybe you have something wrong with how they're defined... |
| 21:57.24 | cogwheel|work | also, check your FrameXML.log for errors again :P |
| 22:00.30 | chronx | where FrameXML.log? |
| 22:00.41 | Kaydeethree | WoW/Logs/FrameXML.log |
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| 22:03.30 | chronx | error is Frame chronxframes1: Unknown child node in Layer element: Button |
| 22:04.39 | chronx | doesn't the <Button> go inside <Layer> ? |
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| 22:06.32 | cogwheel|work | no... it goes inside <Frames> |
| 22:06.56 | cogwheel|work | btw, if you followed http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML it would've highlighted that error :P |
| 22:09.04 | chronx | ok i put the <Button> in the <Frame> tags... and now /script message(tostring(chronxframes_Button)) ouutputs nil |
| 22:09.46 | JoshBork1 | not Frame |
| 22:09.48 | JoshBork1 | Frames |
| 22:09.50 | JoshBork1 | with an S |
| 22:10.19 | JoshBork1 | purl, poke cladhaire |
| 22:10.44 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind cladhaire, pokes cladhaire repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:10.44 | JoshBork1 | MORNING |
| 22:10.44 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:10.44 | cladhaire | morning. |
| 22:10.58 | nymbia | purl, you suck |
| 22:11.07 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 22:11.15 | chronx | O_O |
| 22:11.16 | chronx | lol |
| 22:11.18 | nymbia | mornin' cladhaire |
| 22:11.24 | cogwheel|work | O.o |
| 22:11.29 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:15.01 | chronx | baahhh |
| 22:17.14 | chronx | still can't figure out why the button isn't loaddingg |
| 22:18.17 | nymbia | any new and different errors in FrameXML.log? |
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| 22:21.20 | chronx | theres nothing related to my addon in framesxml.log |
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| 22:27.25 | chronx | any ideas? |
| 22:27.25 | chronx | should i post my crappy xml again? -_- |
| 22:27.25 | Fin | [20:12:00] < dukeku> WHY IS YOUR BATHROOM SO DIRTY |
| 22:27.25 | Fin | [20:12:05] < dukeku> WHY ARE YOU SO FILTHY? |
| 22:27.25 | Fin | [20:12:08] < dukeku> DIRTY DIRTY DIRTY |
| 22:27.43 | Fin | wuh?\ |
| 22:28.14 | Fin | (<before someone else thinks it>even though I'm not a mage!</fuck you>) |
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| 22:32.10 | chronx | anyone anyone? |
| 22:32.20 | chronx | wannna check out my xml? maybe find out why my button isn't being displayed |
| 22:32.49 | cogwheel|work | chronx: "should i post my crappy xml again? -_-" yes |
| 22:32.50 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 22:32.53 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.53 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.35 | chronx | ok someones gotta take a look |
| 22:36.54 | chronx | http://wowi.pastey.net/24574 |
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| 22:37.49 | cogwheel|work | you still have no textures for one thing. For another, the Anchors have to be immediately after the <size> tags (another error that VS would've caught) |
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| 22:41.14 | chronx | what tags do "textures" use? |
| 22:42.33 | cogwheel|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#Button |
| 22:42.45 | cogwheel|work | (might be a bit out of date) |
| 22:48.59 | chronx | would the example button work in my addon if i were to try it? |
| 22:49.05 | chronx | because it doesn't ... |
| 22:50.04 | cogwheel|work | I don't see any particular reason it wouldn't |
| 22:50.28 | chronx | it doesn't :( |
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| 22:50.45 | cogwheel|work | Oh... you still didn't put the button inside a Frames tag |
| 22:50.58 | chronx | ehh |
| 22:51.03 | chronx | i have it in the main frame tag |
| 22:51.18 | cogwheel|work | Yes you do. |
| 22:51.21 | cogwheel|work | That is wrong |
| 22:52.04 | cogwheel|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#The_Basics |
| 22:52.54 | chronx | sigh |
| 22:52.58 | chronx | and there is the button |
| 22:53.06 | chronx | damn that <Frames> tag |
| 22:53.08 | cogwheel|work | I'm not sure why the FrameXML log wasn't giving you an error... |
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| 23:14.39 | chronx | does each <button> need to be in its own <Frames> tag? i would assume not... so why not just have something like <Frame><Frames> [everything else here] </Frames></Frame> ?!? |
| 23:15.04 | cogwheel|work | No... all subframes of a frame go inside the frames tag |
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| 23:15.30 | chronx | why not make everything a subframe? |
| 23:15.39 | cogwheel|work | because not everything is a frame |
| 23:15.45 | cogwheel|work | size isn't a frame... |
| 23:15.49 | cogwheel|work | anchors isn't a frame |
| 23:16.22 | cogwheel|work | you should read through http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 23:17.19 | cogwheel|work | it's a bit outdated, but it's still mostly relevant |
| 23:17.20 | cogwheel|work | notice I said "THE frames tag" not "A frames tag" |
| 23:18.11 | cogwheel|work | it's just a way to group all the subframes together in an easy to find location |
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| 23:18.58 | Tain | Frames! They're gonna live forever! |
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| 23:20.16 | TC-Working | only in the hearts and minds of others |
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| 23:22.06 | Guillotine | can anyone think of a reason that ChatFrame_OnEvent would be called with an event of "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER" (or any other chat message), but no arg 2? |
| 23:24.12 | TC-Working | yes, when it felt like ignoring arg 2 |
| 23:24.23 | TC-Working | arg 1 is tedious enough |
| 23:24.32 | Tain | arg 2 was being kind of a dick |
| 23:24.53 | cogwheel|work | c'mon guys... one or the other but not both |
| 23:24.55 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 23:25.13 | TC-Working | no no, it was both |
| 23:25.37 | TC-Working | dont tell me you have a soft spot for one of the arg's cogwheel|work |
| 23:26.07 | cogwheel|work | actually, I do find the args quite objectionable... but they do exist, so we have to take them into account... |
| 23:26.13 | cogwheel|work | now vararg is where it's at... |
| 23:26.16 | pastamancer | I don't think cogwheel has ever shyed away from an argument ;) |
| 23:26.23 | cogwheel|work | yes I have |
| 23:26.31 | cogwheel|work | ~rimshot |
| 23:26.45 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 23:26.57 | TC-Working | vararg....pfft! |
| 23:27.54 | TC-Working | damit...why did cog quit like that |
| 23:28.23 | Guillotine | because its time for home |
| 23:28.31 | Guillotine | see, I can make useless comments too |
| 23:28.43 | TC-Working | welli would think he would say goodbye....bastard |
| 23:29.03 | TC-Working | ehhh.. Guillotine, that wasnt really useless |
| 23:29.10 | TC-Working | you need to work harder |
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| 23:40.03 | batrick | wow y the hostility |
| 23:43.38 | Deja | hm... I'm having a problem with my frame no longer showing |
| 23:44.17 | Deja | I moved the frame into its own .xml/.lua pair, and added them to the toc, but I'm getting no errors and its not showing the frame anymore |
| 23:44.38 | Deja | the frame's OnLoad event is firing |
| 23:45.37 | Deja | anyone run into this before? |
| 23:46.22 | Cide | what's the parent set to? |
| 23:46.23 | Karrion | Deja: did you fully restart wow? |
| 23:46.49 | Deja | yes |
| 23:47.06 | Deja | the parent is set to UIParent |
| 23:48.27 | Deja | it displayed just fine before I split it into two files |
| 23:49.36 | Deja | oh! I think I figured out the problem :) |
| 23:50.01 | Deja | my slash command handler was broken |
| 23:58.12 | Karrion | WTB latest PTR build on wdn |