00:00.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes i'll ravage instead of pounce, depending on how much i feel like making you waste blink before you need it |
00:00.26 | Tem | and generally, I can beat a feral druid |
00:00.36 | Tem | but I need a bit of luck to get the kiting right |
00:00.46 | Tem | and if he gets _any_ help, I lose |
00:00.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | mages tend to rock me because i sacrifice so much hp for dps |
00:01.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm at 6600ish |
00:01.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
00:01.01 | Tem | ah well that'll do it |
00:01.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if i get near other classes' hp, i do prot warrior damage |
00:01.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid gear has crap for stam on it |
00:01.29 | Tem | hehe |
00:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially the arena gear |
00:01.36 | Tem | welcome to mage land |
00:01.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's got the worst stam by far out of all of them |
00:01.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, 20 less than the mage set or something if i recall, lemme see |
00:02.08 | Tem | not so much anymore, but before BC, mage gear with stamina was rare as hell |
00:03.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | 177 on the druid set |
00:03.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | 219 on the mage set |
00:03.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | stam |
00:03.37 | Tem | well you do have much higher base hp |
00:03.47 | Tem | maybe that's what they were thinking |
00:04.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | not really |
00:04.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just screwed the sets over and they know it |
00:04.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | they put +healing on the feral set |
00:05.10 | Tem | oh lol |
00:05.16 | foxlit | Don't bash! |
00:05.22 | Tem | well, actually... |
00:05.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and int |
00:05.26 | Tem | I dunno |
00:05.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | both of which are just wasting item budget |
00:05.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | that could be going to stam |
00:05.48 | foxlit | Healing in feral gear and talents is painful as is. |
00:05.50 | Tem | I never understood how to do gear for a hybrid |
00:06.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | fox, in arenas, a feral druid healing in healing gear even is a waste |
00:06.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's better to just dps them down faster |
00:06.37 | foxlit | drop feral form, pop NS / HT13, reshift. |
00:06.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | putting the measly amount of int and +healing on it is just an insult |
00:06.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh |
00:06.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have NS? |
00:06.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | any decent feral won't |
00:06.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | because he has mangle |
00:07.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you don't have mangle, you may as well not go feral at all |
00:07.15 | foxlit | I'd rather they'd budget str/agi and +heal the same way +frost/+shadow is balanced on enchants |
00:07.35 | foxlit | Have numbers on how it compares with shred? |
00:07.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd rather them not make two focused sets and a hybrid set |
00:07.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | mangle's more damage on the first hit |
00:08.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | but shred is better as long as mangle's up |
00:08.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, more damage:energy |
00:08.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | any druid that goes into resto deep enough for NS better just go pure resto |
00:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | because he's spreading himself too thin and becoming a waste |
00:09.22 | zenzelezz | NS? |
00:09.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only exception is perhaps a moonkin |
00:09.29 | foxlit | Some of the better pre-expansion pvp feral builds involved NS. |
00:09.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | nature's swiftness |
00:09.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | pre-expansion |
00:09.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
00:09.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | before mangle |
00:09.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | mangle is required to do damage in feral forms now pretty much |
00:09.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | claw doesnt cut it |
00:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | shred doesn't cut it without mangle |
00:10.22 | foxlit | Been there, done that, got a decent spec in the end. |
00:10.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | now, you're just spreading yourself too thin and are approaching uselessness quickly |
00:11.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can't do decent damage, and you can't heal decently |
00:12.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i laugh at the druids that try to keep the dream of the "hybrid spec" alive while i kill them before pounce wears off |
00:13.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of stunlocking without even trying, resto druids are my favorite snack these days |
00:13.26 | foxlit | meh, not enough people proc barkskin while stunned |
00:13.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | squishy as hell, especially when they're stunned |
00:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | won't help much, if i have to i can just maim them and restealth then pounce |
00:13.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | and continue the stunlock |
00:14.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | most times i don't have to though |
00:14.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | they don't pop barkskin like you said, because we couldn't for the longest time |
00:15.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're so used to being little healpets that they don't bother thinking |
00:21.59 | foxlit | Wonder if 2.1 nerfs stuns to some extent as well |
00:22.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | doubtful |
00:22.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're not under the same rules as fears and stuff because their duration is naturally shorter |
00:23.18 | foxlit | Comparable to frost nova, though |
00:23.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | shorter than FN and not AoE :O |
00:24.23 | cladhaire | okay, unenchanted, unbuffed, whats a reasonable number of +shadow damage for a new level 70? |
00:24.39 | foxlit | +600ish? |
00:24.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | 500ish, 600ish? i dunno |
00:24.50 | cladhaire | k.. |
00:25.07 | cladhaire | they keep making me feel bad for having 481 with random quest and non-heroic instance drops |
00:25.26 | Cide | 500 probably |
00:25.27 | cladhaire | and i admit, its not very "good" |
00:25.29 | zenzelezz | who's "they"? |
00:25.31 | foxlit | Got a mace/dagger? |
00:25.33 | cladhaire | my guild, heh |
00:25.38 | foxlit | +offhand? |
00:25.41 | Cide | I'm at ~800 with pretty good gear |
00:25.48 | cladhaire | I have a dagger and The Saga of Terrok offhand |
00:26.03 | foxlit | ~700 and I'm a resto druid :/ |
00:26.20 | Cide | cladhaire: what you have is probably average for someone who recently hit 70 |
00:26.25 | zenzelezz | +shadow on a druid? |
00:26.38 | foxlit | +damage, don't be silly. |
00:26.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes we have a secret shadow tree |
00:26.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the mystical 4th talent tree that you've heard about |
00:27.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | what you have to do is go into the emerald dream |
00:27.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | and beat up the nightmare |
00:27.24 | zenzelezz | they were talking shadow, it was a valid question |
00:27.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | but when you beat it up, it attacks you and gives you shadow spells |
00:27.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just being silly |
00:27.43 | zenzelezz | I always assume that about you |
00:27.44 | zenzelezz | ;-p |
00:27.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not trying to be a jerk :x |
00:27.51 | cladhaire | this is me before i put my meta gem in i think |
00:27.51 | cladhaire | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Sagart |
00:28.29 | cladhaire | its a vicious circle, i dont over enchant or socket my stuff, cause its gonna get replaced =) |
00:28.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't decide between two different pants |
00:29.00 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: get helm of second sight |
00:29.04 | cladhaire | i'm working on it |
00:29.16 | cladhaire | half way done with the line |
00:29.19 | cladhaire | keep in mind |
00:29.20 | cladhaire | i hit 70 |
00:29.24 | foxlit | Updating mainhand will get you 40 more damage |
00:29.31 | cladhaire | doing 0 quests in SMV and 0 quests in BE and 0 quests in Netherstorm |
00:29.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30257 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31544 |
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00:29.47 | JoshBorke | heh |
00:29.51 | JoshBorke | lots of quests to do :-P |
00:29.57 | JoshBorke | skip all the BE quests :-P |
00:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got ~6.2% chance to hit with the clefthoof |
00:30.08 | JoshBorke | really, shadowmoon got me a TON of gear |
00:30.12 | cladhaire | i'm scryer, i need to do em |
00:30.12 | cladhaire | yeah |
00:30.14 | cladhaire | that's what i'm doing now |
00:30.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~5.07% with the shattrath |
00:30.20 | cladhaire | so i know its just gonna improve |
00:30.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is all i need |
00:30.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i dunno |
00:30.35 | foxlit | Btw, get proper trinkets? |
00:30.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Raybeez |
00:30.41 | cladhaire | what trinkets |
00:30.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | check out my awful stamina |
00:30.46 | cladhaire | =) |
00:30.46 | cladhaire | that was my question |
00:30.48 | cladhaire | well one of them |
00:31.28 | foxlit | There's a +hit / + damage onuse one in the broken wastes |
00:31.36 | JoshBorke | look at mine: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Dagh |
00:31.52 | foxlit | Bonelasher quest in terrokkar has the same idea |
00:31.57 | JoshBorke | glowing crystal insignia ftw |
00:32.14 | JoshBorke | there's also a PvP one |
00:32.25 | JoshBorke | takes 30 honor hold marks |
00:32.31 | cladhaire | hrm |
00:32.34 | cladhaire | i might have thrown that one |
00:32.35 | cladhaire | damnit |
00:32.41 | cladhaire | i'll have to look |
00:32.47 | cladhaire | i was healing up until a week ago |
00:32.49 | cladhaire | or gearing for healing |
00:32.53 | cladhaire | and i'm stupid sometimes :P |
00:32.58 | JoshBorke | xiri's gift sucks |
00:33.05 | cladhaire | aran brb |
00:33.22 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-4&filter=cr=51:18;crs=1:1;crv=10:0 |
00:33.28 | JoshBorke | remember, dona't n00b! |
00:34.20 | cladhaire | foxlit: thanks, i'll browse afterwards |
00:34.25 | cladhaire | maybe there are quests i haven't done :P |
00:34.42 | JoshBorke | you forgot the priest filter |
00:35.27 | Mikma | wowwiki admins around? |
00:35.49 | foxlit | Try #wowwiki? |
00:35.58 | Mikma | mmmmmaybe. |
00:36.11 | foxlit | I wasn't sure if that'd find only items with Class: Priest in them or not |
00:36.46 | foxlit | Apparently it behaves like it should <3 |
00:37.17 | JoshBorke | i want quagmirran's eye |
00:38.04 | Kaydeethree | we actually had that drop in our nether-gathering run earlier today |
00:38.16 | foxlit | Simplifies to http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.-4&filter=ub=5;cr=51:18;crs=1:1;crv=1:0 then |
00:38.17 | Kaydeethree | with the haste nerf coming I'm not really that interested |
00:38.26 | haste | :-( |
00:38.48 | Cide | haste nerf? :) |
00:38.58 | Cide | shadow priests rejoice |
00:39.15 | Kaydeethree | they keep buffing/nerfing the amount of haste necessary to get the +haste% |
00:39.39 | Kaydeethree | this time it's going to take substantially more if my memory of the patchnotes is correct |
00:39.39 | Cide | they're changing the mechanics, making spell haste more powerful than it was before (for some classes) |
00:39.47 | Cide | yes |
00:39.53 | Cide | since channeled spells are now affected too |
00:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | whatever, i've got a 1.0 attack speed so haste is pretty much not much of a difference to me |
00:40.13 | Cide | haste scales linearly :) |
00:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | still, not much of a difference between 1.0 and 0.7, both are damn fast |
00:40.42 | Cide | in pvp maybe |
00:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehehehe that reminds me |
00:41.06 | Cide | the damage increase is linear though |
00:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could have my pet attacking with like a 0.4 attack speed |
00:41.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | before the speed nerf |
00:41.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | on my hunter |
00:41.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had broken tooth, and with the hunter talents and everything i could have my pet doing like 300 dps without counting claw or bite |
00:44.47 | cladhaire | aran is fun |
00:46.15 | Kaydeethree | "I will not move when Flame Wreath is cast or the raid blows up..." |
00:46.31 | cladhaire | hehe |
00:48.52 | Kaydeethree | sigh... "Your ticket will be serviced soon." for ~30m now |
00:50.20 | Gngsk | someone blew up in flame wreath today in my raid |
00:50.23 | Gngsk | but it didn't kill anyone |
00:50.50 | zenzelezz | I swear that spell always crit on me |
00:53.05 | JoshBorke | oooo |
00:53.07 | JoshBorke | i geet to do shade! |
00:55.26 | Cide | you will not move when flame wreath or the raid blows up |
00:55.32 | Cide | bah |
00:55.38 | Cide | s/or/is cast or/ |
00:55.44 | Cide | damn you |
00:55.49 | Cide | you will not move when flame wreath is cast or the raid blows up |
00:55.58 | Kaydeethree | "I" |
00:56.30 | Cide | hey, I'm not doing shade of aran! |
00:56.48 | JoshBorke | i'm TOTALLY gonna blow up the raid |
00:58.21 | Cide | it's the best fight in the game atm |
00:59.13 | Kaydeethree | c'thun > aran |
00:59.15 | Guillotine | I'm the greatest at PvP ever. I solod 9 people in epic gear at the same time |
00:59.19 | Guillotine | <3 Flame Wreath |
00:59.36 | Cide | Kaydeethree: hmm, yeah |
00:59.38 | Cide | you're probably right |
00:59.44 | Cide | actually, you are |
01:00.09 | Neebler | c'thun pretty much requires an addon to fight |
01:00.13 | zenzelezz | C'thun revealed a few slackers |
01:00.21 | Cide | Neebler: nah, not at all |
01:00.32 | Kaydeethree | it's not that hard to stand away from everyone else |
01:00.51 | Kaydeethree | 'couse, we still mandated the use of /ctw, but who didn't? |
01:00.57 | Cide | we didn't |
01:01.10 | Cide | I don't think many people at all used it |
01:01.21 | Cide | in our guild.. nobody even mentioned it |
01:02.09 | Cide | but I suppose it makes the fight a bit easier |
01:02.09 | Corrodias | two realms are offline |
01:02.09 | Corrodias | CHAOS WILL ENSUE |
01:02.19 | Kaydeethree | so's the GM queue, apparently |
01:02.51 | zenzelezz | the CTW addon could be more in the way than of help... some people got too caught up in the proximity warning to run where they should |
01:03.22 | Kaydeethree | but you could say that for all boss mods |
01:03.51 | zenzelezz | of course |
01:05.54 | cladhaire | i need to work on my shadow dmg |
01:05.56 | cladhaire | i keep running out of mana |
01:05.57 | cladhaire | =( |
01:06.01 | cladhaire | by 35% |
01:06.04 | cladhaire | 30ish |
01:06.11 | Kaydeethree | screw blizzard and their lousy resist fights |
01:06.19 | Kaydeethree | ...waitasec, I'm not on the forums |
01:06.21 | Kaydeethree | fuck blizzard and their fucking resist fights |
01:06.23 | JoshBorke | it's hard to have good mana stay without high shadow damage |
01:06.36 | cladhaire | yeah |
01:06.45 | JoshBorke | pots and fiend are your friend |
01:06.51 | JoshBorke | remember, trinket before your fiend if you can |
01:07.03 | JoshBorke | and trinket your VT too |
01:07.09 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure swearing is so much better in here Kaydeethree |
01:07.18 | JoshBorke | something like 500 DPS will let you break even on casting VT |
01:07.48 | Kaydeethree | true, but I don't have to think about the forum filter on irc |
01:08.04 | zenzelezz | the ops can still put you right |
01:08.12 | Tain | You know some people really just ask for a back stabbing. |
01:08.30 | cladhaire | i'm not very set on my rotation right now either |
01:08.38 | cladhaire | probably not SW:D enough |
01:09.34 | cladhaire | i'll figure this raiding shadow thing out =) |
01:09.43 | Cide | should use sw: d every time it's up unless it's a long fight |
01:09.52 | Tain | I was doing an generic escort quest, and what I was escorting was attackable by the other faction on non-PVP servers. I go in Stealth with really slow moving escorts so I can get a nice Ambush in. |
01:09.53 | cladhaire | define long, its aran =) |
01:09.56 | Cide | for long fights it's pretty much dots + mind flay |
01:10.02 | Cide | aran I'd go all out |
01:10.03 | Tain | So I'm stealthed, a Hunter runs up and starts attacking my escort. |
01:10.06 | Cide | and use 2 mana pots |
01:10.17 | Cide | so dots + mind flay + mind blast + shadow word: death |
01:10.18 | cladhaire | i only have one left |
01:10.20 | cladhaire | but that was my plan |
01:10.24 | Tain | So I Ambushed him but good. |
01:10.41 | JoshBorke | i'm afraid i'll pull aggro |
01:10.44 | JoshBorke | i don't know when to back off |
01:11.00 | Cide | would probably run oom with one mana pot using that combo, so I'd drop mind blast out of the rotation |
01:11.05 | Kaydeethree | great thing about aran: no aggro table in the traditional sense |
01:11.07 | Cide | and maybe shadow word: death every 12 sec instead of 6 |
01:11.24 | cladhaire | Cide: hrm.. okay.. so just VT,SWP,Flay,death every 12? |
01:11.46 | Cide | something like that, ya |
01:12.09 | Cide | or just do death after you renew vt |
01:12.25 | Cide | they really need to make imp sw: p affect vt =/ |
01:12.57 | JoshBorke | need to statr getting used to Death being 12 seconds anyway |
01:15.06 | JoshBorke | they should give mages a water well |
01:15.28 | Kaydeethree | or just take AcceptTrade() off the hardware-event-bound function list like it was before 2.0 |
01:15.37 | kergoth | Tain: lol |
01:16.47 | Kaydeethree | I miss being able to go afk before raids with tD on and give water to a third of the raid totally unattended |
01:22.36 | Tain | What kind of pizza, Tem? |
01:22.51 | Tem | Papa Johns |
01:23.03 | Tem | they have a carryout special atm |
01:23.19 | Tem | one large for 7bucks |
01:23.20 | cladhaire | whats the special? |
01:23.23 | cladhaire | ooh nice |
01:23.27 | cladhaire | i need to eat some more |
01:23.38 | Tem | and that's easily 2 meals |
01:23.56 | Tain | I have a cast iron skillet cooked steak in the oven right now. |
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01:25.32 | Tem | Tain, if I hadn't eaten yet, I'd be jealous |
01:25.47 | JoshBorke | you guys talking about food is making me hungry |
01:27.07 | Tem | gah |
01:27.17 | Tem | what addon is screwing up the posistion of my buff frame? |
01:27.25 | Tem | I don't have the patience to find it be disabling stuff |
01:27.33 | zenzelezz | food is overrated... I get bored halfway through a meal |
01:27.39 | Cide | Tem: hook setpoint? :P |
01:27.59 | Tem | you wanna know what I'm writing in my tweak addon right now? |
01:27.59 | Cide | and print a stack trace |
01:28.03 | Tem | because that's it |
01:28.14 | Cide | ah :) |
01:28.27 | Tem | I'm just annoyed that I have to do it at all |
01:28.31 | Cide | yeah =/ |
01:28.34 | Tem | plus, I suspect I already know the cause |
01:28.41 | cladhaire | lol |
01:28.42 | cladhaire | =) |
01:31.03 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: is there an option in tomtom to hide the coords when in an instance? |
01:31.16 | cladhaire | no |
01:31.18 | cladhaire | good idea |
01:31.19 | cladhaire | post it =) |
01:32.38 | Tain | I still need to pick up a new rice cooker, but I never see one I like when I'm out. |
01:33.13 | cladhaire | i have a cheap one |
01:33.15 | cladhaire | but it works =) |
01:35.48 | Tain | Me too, I just get annoyed because rice sticks to it every time, and it doesn't have a good "keep warm" mode. If I don't take it out as soon as it is done it doesn't come out right. |
01:35.56 | cladhaire | my keep warm mode sucks |
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01:36.02 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: posted |
01:36.04 | JoshBorke | erm, wait |
01:36.08 | JoshBorke | googlecode or wowi? |
01:36.12 | cladhaire | googlecode |
01:36.15 | cladhaire | but in theory i might check either |
01:36.18 | cladhaire | btu gcode emails me. |
01:37.46 | JoshBorke | well, posted to wowi |
01:37.49 | cladhaire | k |
01:38.17 | cladhaire | i can give you commit access to |
01:38.19 | cladhaire | you could amke it |
01:41.10 | cladhaire | heheh :P |
01:41.52 | Tem | oh that's a rather bizare sideeffct |
01:42.07 | Tem | not that surprizing, but still bizarre |
01:42.21 | Tem | Spam Sentry hides the ticket frame when you have a ticket open for a spammer |
01:42.28 | Tem | the ticket frame moves the buffs down |
01:42.37 | Tem | but spam sentry doesn't move them back |
01:43.16 | Tem | but what's really bizarre is that I've disabled spamsentry and it still has the ticket frame hidden or something |
01:44.01 | Kaydeethree | ? it's still showing the ticket frame for me whenever I submit a petition through it |
01:46.18 | Tem | I wish it would do that for me |
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01:46.30 | Tem | I want to be able to edit the ticket |
01:46.44 | Kaydeethree | you using a beta version or something? last build from wowi's not doing anything weird |
01:47.34 | Tem | yeah, I just pulled it from the svn today because I'm lazy |
01:48.18 | Tem | any idea what the name of that ticket status frame is? |
01:48.21 | Tem | I can't find mine |
01:48.31 | Tem | TicketStatusFrame |
01:48.33 | Tem | go figure |
01:48.38 | cladhaire | lol |
01:49.21 | Kaydeethree | one of these days I'm going to have wow open when I'm skimming through the wdn list |
01:49.25 | Tem | it's off the screen |
01:49.25 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: should i worry about having an option for it? |
01:49.34 | Kaydeethree | see what happens when I open up the TicTacToeFrame |
01:49.38 | Tem | hmm, how annoying |
01:49.41 | cladhaire | I'd add a toggle for it, |
01:49.47 | cladhaire | but i can add that after |
01:50.20 | Tem | aha |
01:50.29 | Tem | _evil_ layout-cache was involved |
01:50.39 | JoshBorke | hrm, i was just gonna stick it in the OnUpdate |
01:50.52 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: How would you re-show it? |
01:50.59 | Shadowed | Though layout-cache only handled positioning not hiding? |
01:51.01 | JoshBorke | yea, that wouldn't work |
01:51.07 | JoshBorke | need to look at what events are fired when you zone |
01:51.12 | JoshBorke | might be a use for the event that does nothing |
01:51.15 | Tem | Shadowed, the frame was posisitioned off the screen |
01:51.18 | cladhaire | i think i already register for them |
01:51.22 | Shadowed | thats a rather odd way to do it |
01:51.35 | Tem | and now, I get to hunt down spam sentry's author and give him an earful about things addons should never do |
01:51.41 | Shadowed | You could always check PEW/PLW and use IsInInstance |
01:51.52 | JoshBorke | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
01:52.15 | JoshBorke | why am i doing this? i'm in a new area of kara... |
01:52.20 | JoshBorke | i should be enjoying the trash pulls |
01:52.30 | JoshBorke | wait, what am i saying? enjoying trash? |
01:52.32 | Kaydeethree | enjoy? trash pulls? |
01:52.36 | cladhaire | hahah |
01:52.48 | Kaydeethree | maybe the pre-post curator 2-pull trash. try to wipe the raid when you get overloaded |
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01:57.55 | Cide | only bad trash in kara is curator-shade of aran |
01:58.00 | Cide | god I want to kill myself doing that |
01:58.15 | Cide | then again, most of it was terrible while learning the instance because of the fast respawns |
01:58.22 | Kaydeethree | melee-only trash in a caster-heavy instance |
01:58.28 | Cide | yep |
01:58.36 | Cide | leveling dagger skill for the win |
01:59.05 | JoshBorke | i'm 2 runs from exalted lower city |
01:59.15 | Kaydeethree | ick |
01:59.17 | JoshBorke | saw the priest chestpiece for the first time today |
01:59.24 | Kaydeethree | I got to revered to get my heroic key and then stopped |
01:59.30 | Kaydeethree | cannot stand SL |
01:59.53 | Kaydeethree | though I'm going to have to run it again so I can get keyed to the eye, ugh |
02:00.06 | JoshBorke | it's not that bad with a good group |
02:00.11 | JoshBorke | i get through in about 90 minutes |
02:01.07 | Shadowed | Aren't they reducing SL trash in 2.1 at least |
02:01.52 | Shadowed | "Reduced the number of creatures in Shadow Labyrinth. " |
02:02.08 | Kaydeethree | I wish they'd dumb down the AI some more. doing unspeakable things to our healer in the MC event isn't that fun |
02:02.24 | Shadowed | it is dumb |
02:02.27 | Shadowed | 1) Spam cooldowns |
02:02.29 | Shadowed | 2) Spam cooldowns |
02:02.31 | Shadowed | 3) Spam cooldowns |
02:02.50 | Kaydeethree | I pop my "zomg" macro 10s in to the fight, that's every CD I can burn |
02:03.03 | Kaydeethree | doesn't help when all 4 of us turn on him at the same instant, though |
02:04.26 | Cide | never had that happen myself, maybe I'm lucky |
02:04.48 | Cide | I've chain cast mass dispel though, also not very enjoyable :P |
02:05.02 | cladhaire | that and SW:D spammage |
02:05.36 | JoshBorke | ooo, i didn't cast mass dispel last time |
02:05.36 | Kaydeethree | at least when we've got a resto druid in the group she gets to keep her mana. the AI still hasn't figured out what to do while in tree form |
02:05.44 | cladhaire | haha |
02:05.51 | cladhaire | barkskin in 2.1 |
02:07.20 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: what about your druid? |
02:07.30 | cladhaire | what about? |
02:07.34 | JoshBorke | still playing it? |
02:07.43 | cladhaire | no |
02:07.46 | cladhaire | no point, on that server |
02:08.19 | JoshBorke | just curious |
02:09.10 | cladhaire | i love him |
02:09.12 | cladhaire | wish i could play him |
02:09.20 | cladhaire | but i'd have to transfer, and i've got a good thing going on the alliance |
02:09.31 | cladhaire | just sucks, i need to move 3.7k from horde to alliance |
02:11.32 | Tain | I'm playing Horde again for the first time in a long time. How did I deal with Alliance for that long? |
02:12.01 | Gngsk | I'm playing horde for the first time ever |
02:12.12 | Gngsk | waiting for a group really sucks, but the groups tend to be of better quality |
02:12.31 | cladhaire | i _love_ horde |
02:12.33 | cladhaire | but i can't on stormrage |
02:12.46 | cladhaire | its 4:1 on a good day |
02:12.55 | cladhaire | seems to be reasonably consistent in our battlegroup too |
02:13.06 | Tain | I forgot how much easier it is for Horde to move between continents. Zeppelins are so much easier than boats, and right to main towns. |
02:13.09 | Kaydeethree | yay for ruin never being in synch |
02:14.09 | Gngsk | tain, I'm finding it the exact opposite. granted I'm not used to the zeppelins |
02:14.15 | cladhaire | Kaydeethree: what ruin server are you on? |
02:14.21 | Kaydeethree | medivh |
02:14.41 | cladhaire | ah =) |
02:14.44 | Shadowed | cladhaire: LPS go |
02:14.47 | Tain | I just don't think there's a comparison. |
02:14.48 | cladhaire | ? |
02:14.55 | Shadowed | can transfer it in large prismatic shards! |
02:15.03 | cladhaire | Shadowed: nope |
02:15.07 | cladhaire | they sell for more on horde than on alliance |
02:15.13 | cladhaire | due to a completely fucked economy |
02:15.17 | Shadowed | oh horde to alliance |
02:15.22 | Tain | Zeppelin from Ogrimmar to Undercity directly, versus boats that you have to level up to get to and then get flight paths to. |
02:15.25 | JoshBorke | wiped on aran :-( |
02:15.29 | Shadowed | nobody wants to do a gold trade? |
02:15.47 | cladhaire | Shadowed: no one in their right mind woul want o move mmoney from alliance to horde |
02:15.50 | Gngsk | yeah, that's true |
02:15.55 | Shadowed | i did =( |
02:16.13 | Tain | The Alliance has the advantage of the tram, but that's same continent. |
02:16.18 | Gngsk | but if you're all the way down in tanaris/un'goro/silithus, getting back to UC when your hearth is cooling is a bitch |
02:16.23 | Shadowed | Tain: That doesn't really matter, I had to use the zep a couple of times, it was far easier to bribe a mage with 4g and bind in shat |
02:16.29 | Kaydeethree | meh, all of the x-faction stuff I ever dealt with was sending bandages to the other side during the AQ effort |
02:17.01 | Tain | That doesn't work well Shadowed when you're low level though. |
02:17.04 | Shadowed | You could try transferring it in patterns if you were really desperate |
02:17.08 | Shadowed | Depends on race |
02:17.19 | Shadowed | I bound to shatt at like lvl 30 because I was rolling a BE |
02:17.55 | Tain | Well sure by level 30 anyone should be able to make a few gold a night easily. |
02:19.05 | Shadowed | well up until like 25-30 you dont have to start moving areas |
02:19.36 | Tain | heh I play differently I guess. |
02:20.11 | Shadowed | BE can go up to like level 25 without leaving the BE area :p |
02:20.52 | Tain | Maybe can, but you lose out on weapon skills you can only learn from Thunder Bluff's weapon trainer. |
02:21.21 | Shadowed | Pretty sure you can learn Swords without going to TB |
02:21.25 | Shadowed | so that wasn't an issue |
02:21.52 | Kaydeethree | hm... |
02:21.55 | Tain | Well, like I said I guess I just play differently. I can't sit in one spot and just level, I need to move around. |
02:22.12 | Kaydeethree | the Blizzard_FeedbackUI's gathering some interesting information |
02:22.17 | Tain | Which isn't to suggest that my way is "better", it's just unbearable to me to not move around. |
02:22.31 | Shadowed | Addons loaded and such? |
02:22.36 | Shadowed | or something new |
02:22.50 | Kaydeethree | combats, deaths, pvp combats, pvp deaths, average combat lengths |
02:23.01 | Shadowed | Makes sense I suppose |
02:23.28 | Shadowed | since the things from TBC beta could be affected by all of those |
02:26.49 | raevanmorlock | Anyone know of an addon that lets you create your own chat message types and use the default gui to set their filter/color? |
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02:59.58 | Kaydeethree | oh wow. that's an error I haven't seen in a while... "A character with that name already exists" |
03:04.08 | Guillotine | hmm. how do you make regexps in lua non-greedy again? I'm stuck in Python mode at the moment >< |
03:05.14 | Cide | >>> ("aaa"):match("(aa-)") |
03:05.14 | Cide | Cide: "a" |
03:05.52 | Cide | >>> ("aaa"):match("^(aa-)$") |
03:05.52 | Cide | Cide: "aaa" |
03:06.17 | Cide | does that help? |
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03:06.50 | Guillotine | ah, got it |
03:07.13 | Guillotine | wait, no |
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03:08.14 | Guillotine | basically, I'm trying to only get the name when in a BG and someone sends a message cross server. For example "Guillotine-Draenor" works. But "Guillotine-Azol-Nerub" picks up too much. The problem is, it either bugs there or bugs when there is no - |
03:08.44 | Cide | >>> ("Guillotine"):match("([^-]+)") |
03:08.44 | Cide | Cide: "Guillotine" |
03:08.48 | Cide | >>> ("Guillotine-Draenor"):match("([^-]+)") |
03:08.48 | Cide | Cide: "Guillotine" |
03:08.54 | Cide | >>> ("Guillotine-Azol-Nerub"):match("([^-]+)") |
03:08.54 | Cide | Cide: "Guillotine" |
03:08.58 | Guillotine | ahhh |
03:09.00 | Guillotine | that works :) ty |
03:09.03 | Cide | np :) |
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03:27.31 | Guillotine | is there any way to *set* the nth digit of a string to something (as opposed to getting it) |
03:29.18 | JoshBorke | newstr = string.sub(oldstr,stuff)..'new stuff'..string.sub(oldstr, morestuff) |
03:30.24 | Guillotine | but theres no function to do that? Trying to make it as efficient as possible >< |
03:30.30 | Guillotine | that works if theres no better way |
03:51.40 | clad|sleep | strings are immutable |
03:51.41 | clad|sleep | so no |
03:53.08 | JoshBorke | nn |
03:59.51 | Cide | Guillotine |
04:00.02 | Guillotine | ya? |
04:01.49 | Cide | you *can* do it but it's ugly :P |
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04:03.38 | Cide | fun stuff like this: |
04:04.47 | Cide | >>> local str="12345"; local n = 3; local replacement = "hi"; local pattern = "(%s)(%%d)"; local newstring = ("12345"):gsub(pattern:format(("%d"):rep(n-1)), ("%%1%s"):format(replacement)); return newstring |
04:04.48 | Cide | Cide: "12hi45" |
04:05.07 | Cide | or rather |
04:06.17 | Guillotine | ya, but thats not any better than the other way :P actually worse |
04:06.37 | Cide | >>> local function replace(str, rep, n) local pattern = "(%s)(%%d)"; local newstr= str:gsub(pattern:format(("%d"):rep(n-1)), ("%%1%s"):format(rep)); return newstr; end return replace("12345", "hi", 3) |
04:06.37 | Cide | Cide: "12hi45" |
04:07.44 | Cide | with some memoization it should create fewer strings |
04:07.44 | Cide | actually it should as it is too |
04:07.44 | Cide | but yeah, it's not very fast cpu-wise :P |
04:08.03 | Cide | and was more of a fun thing to do since I'm bored |
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04:35.49 | VoidRaider | Morning :) |
04:52.01 | Tem | okay |
04:52.02 | Tem | so like |
04:52.14 | Tem | the last boss in sethekk is owning is |
04:52.14 | Tem | us |
04:52.34 | Tem | we're probably underlevel anyway, but anyone have any thoughts? |
04:57.09 | nymbia | he's the one with the nasty arcane explosion isnt he? |
05:00.07 | Tem | yeah |
05:00.35 | Tem | he keeps sheeping our healer and he can't get out of LoS quickly enough |
05:02.21 | VoidRaider | You need to have an off-healer there |
05:02.43 | Tem | can the AE be interrupted? |
05:02.48 | VoidRaider | nop |
05:02.51 | Guillotine | anybody know anything about Khaos options? Mine don't seem to be working -_- |
05:03.12 | Tem | VoidRaider, we do, but the AE kills the guy who is stuck in it |
05:03.28 | Guillotine | the off healer should be dispelling sheep |
05:03.35 | Tem | off healer is a shammy |
05:03.36 | Guillotine | so that the healer has time to run out of AoE range |
05:03.45 | Guillotine | oh. then just give up now |
05:03.46 | Guillotine | :P |
05:03.51 | Tem | diaf |
05:03.54 | VoidRaider | Shammy should be enough, resto ? |
05:04.32 | Tem | no |
05:04.37 | VoidRaider | bah lol |
05:04.40 | VoidRaider | haha |
05:04.45 | Tem | elemental I think |
05:04.49 | Tem | he's got the spell damage totem |
05:05.04 | Guillotine | they all have the spell damage totem |
05:05.07 | Guillotine | its the crit one thats a talent |
05:05.26 | Tem | oh |
05:05.55 | Tem | based on gear, I'd say he's enhancement |
05:05.59 | nymbia | i coulda sworn that aoe was interruptable. |
05:06.11 | Tem | nymbia, there's a hunter in my guild who thinks it is too |
05:06.15 | Tem | we're gonna try that next time |
05:06.17 | VoidRaider | Unlike druids that can switch their gear and be mediocre healers shammy must having their talents spent on resto :P |
05:06.37 | Shadowed | AE can be interrupted by Warrior SB last i checked actually |
05:06.39 | VoidRaider | along with their healing gear equipped |
05:07.16 | VoidRaider | Well my friend tried to Earth Shock it and the cast still went on so dunno |
05:07.49 | Shadowed | Yeah it was something weird like you can interrupt it with shield bash but nothing else, maybe it was a bug or maybe i was imagining, dunno |
05:07.53 | Shadowed | been a while since i've done that boss |
05:08.01 | VoidRaider | :P |
05:08.40 | nymbia | yeah i've only done him twice... once on normal, once on heroic |
05:09.50 | VoidRaider | It's quite easy but it also depends on the group setup and gear :P |
05:16.06 | VoidRaider | Hmm when I have frame set to some parent and say I scale this parent, the frames attached to it should be scaled, isn't ? |
05:16.13 | VoidRaider | frames* |
05:16.42 | nymbia | yup |
05:17.00 | VoidRaider | Hmm weird :P |
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05:34.59 | Tem | Shadowed, I'm told that it was changed in the last patch to be uninterruptable |
05:35.11 | Shadowed | ahh yeah probably |
05:36.25 | Tem | and I just tried to CS it |
05:36.27 | Tem | immune |
05:36.34 | Tem | we had a party change |
05:38.05 | Corrodias | it's not hard to get out of LoS as long as you're not sheeped |
05:38.10 | Tem | yeah |
05:38.59 | Tem | well, we had him until it fell apart because the tank lost agro to the enh shaman |
05:39.21 | Tem | and then he went around 1 shotting clothies |
05:39.31 | Tem | (ie me) |
05:40.29 | VoidRaider | Haha :P |
05:42.17 | Tem | oh hell |
05:42.21 | Tem | the place is respawned |
05:42.52 | Tem | so much time spent replacing people who had to leave |
05:42.58 | VoidRaider | I see you have no luck there my friend :P |
05:45.25 | VoidRaider | Hmm right now I'm using LuaSlinger is there any mod available that is resizeable ? |
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05:52.15 | Tem | tinypad > * |
05:53.27 | VoidRaider | Thanks Tem, i'll try it :) |
05:53.44 | Tem | np |
05:54.58 | VoidRaider | Hmm haven't updated for like 4 months ? :| |
05:56.04 | VoidRaider | oh ok found an updated version :) |
06:07.15 | Tem | it hasn't needed changes since before 2.0 came out |
06:07.20 | Tem | that's how awesome it is |
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06:11.18 | VoidRaider | Yeah :P |
06:11.28 | VoidRaider | Just checked, just what I needed :P |
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11:48.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i hope 2.1 hits tues |
11:48.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
11:48.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want epic flying |
11:49.57 | Lysistrata | I want Level 69! |
12:10.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may have to settle for an epic flying mount until epic flight form hits |
12:22.34 | clad|sleep | gah |
12:22.40 | clad|sleep | wish i could cancel this flight |
12:22.51 | clad|sleep | accidentally flew from Shatt to Netherstorm =( |
12:22.58 | Mikma | logout and log back in |
12:22.59 | clad|sleep | meant to go to Terrokar |
12:23.05 | Mikma | it usually lands in the nearest place possible |
12:23.08 | clad|sleep | you can't logout on a flight path |
12:23.11 | clad|sleep | and disconnecting doesn't stop it |
12:23.18 | Teomyr | you can |
12:23.33 | clad|sleep | oh my |
12:23.35 | clad|sleep | i guess you can |
12:23.38 | clad|sleep | when did they .. do that? |
12:23.42 | Mikma | disconnecting makes it land on the nearest place possible |
12:24.06 | Teomyr | the next flight path node, that is |
12:24.24 | Industrial | from when to when is the bleach filler? |
12:24.25 | Mikma | i think it has been in since they made the flightpath connects |
12:24.47 | Mikma | well, that's how long i have been using that trick :O |
12:24.52 | Industrial | @clad|sleep> you can't logout on a flight path |
12:24.53 | clad|sleep | heheh |
12:24.54 | clad|sleep | nice =) |
12:25.03 | Industrial | you can but logs you back in on the flight |
12:25.10 | cladhaire | learn something new everyda =) Thanks Mikma Teomyr |
12:25.22 | cladhaire | just tested twice |
12:25.26 | cladhaire | it does land you at the next FP |
12:25.29 | cladhaire | thats pretty cool |
12:25.57 | Mikma | yeah :) sometimes it can be annoying if you ie. install addons and logout while flying and forget about it :D |
12:26.17 | Mikma | especially if you are in hurry to some place ;) |
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13:02.14 | cladhaire | hrm, a primal every 10 min or so |
13:02.14 | cladhaire | not bad |
13:02.51 | JoshBorke | what kind of primal? |
13:03.16 | cladhaire | watah |
13:03.26 | JoshBorke | psh, waters are easy :_D |
13:03.32 | JoshBorke | i fish for mine |
13:03.50 | cladhaire | i have 7/375 fishing |
13:04.00 | JoshBorke | well get on it! |
13:04.25 | cladhaire | i keep getting ganked by mountain colossus tho |
13:04.26 | JoshBorke | i get 3 primals in 15 minutes |
13:04.26 | cladhaire | fucker |
13:04.38 | JoshBorke | and then i go farm otherp rimals |
13:05.15 | cladhaire | its gonna take me longer to level fishin |
13:05.20 | cladhaire | than it will to get the primals |
13:05.23 | JoshBorke | lol |
13:05.27 | JoshBorke | probably :-D |
13:05.57 | cladhaire | and i can't do the half attention thing that fishing requires |
13:07.05 | JoshBorke | i use fishing ace + custom sound |
13:07.25 | JoshBorke | fishing ace just to turn up the volume and auto-lure while fishing |
13:07.35 | cladhaire | 2no its not that |
13:07.44 | cladhaire | its the havign to go between applciations every 30 seconds |
13:07.47 | cladhaire | i suppose i could read a book |
13:07.57 | JoshBorke | that's what i did, read my psychology book |
13:08.09 | cladhaire | i multitask too much for fishing |
13:08.10 | cladhaire | heh |
13:08.38 | JoshBorke | i also read websites. dual monitors ftw |
13:08.50 | cladhaire | i have two monitors |
13:08.56 | cladhaire | flipping back for rforth every 30 seconds ftl |
13:09.30 | JoshBorke | it'll be harder to not pay attention come 2.1 |
13:09.46 | JoshBorke | shorter casting time ftl |
13:10.12 | cladhaire | heh |
13:10.35 | cladhaire | fucker ganked me again |
13:10.36 | cladhaire | what the fuck |
13:10.41 | cladhaire | now i'm getting pissed |
13:10.46 | JoshBorke | where are you farming? |
13:10.50 | cladhaire | water |
13:11.13 | cladhaire | skettis |
13:11.58 | cladhaire | faming on my druid for my priest |
13:12.18 | JoshBorke | also drops off of the water elementals in nagraand |
13:12.20 | JoshBorke | around halaa |
13:12.28 | cladhaire | not as much |
13:12.36 | JoshBorke | true |
13:12.38 | cladhaire | =skettis has best drop rate in game |
13:12.41 | cladhaire | and more mobs |
13:12.49 | JoshBorke | but not as difficult |
13:12.59 | cladhaire | meh |
13:13.02 | cladhaire | the elems are easy |
13:13.07 | cladhaire | the roaming 73 elite fucker hates me |
13:15.07 | JoshBorke | heh |
13:15.12 | zenzelezz | Durn? |
13:15.21 | cladhaire | no |
13:15.26 | cladhaire | skettis |
13:15.29 | cladhaire | mountain colossal |
13:15.59 | zenzelezz | ah, just skimmed and saw "Halaa" |
13:16.09 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: farm me airs, kthxbai |
13:16.25 | cladhaire | airs are easy |
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13:17.20 | JoshBorke | i get too easily frustrated with the drop rate and the ganking |
13:17.28 | cladhaire | what ganking? |
13:17.38 | JoshBorke | i play on PvP |
13:17.44 | cladhaire | gotcha |
13:17.48 | cladhaire | WHAT THE FVUCK |
13:17.56 | JoshBorke | cladhaire = owned |
13:17.57 | cladhaire | i surfaced on the lake |
13:18.02 | cladhaire | took another 3kbreath damage |
13:18.05 | cladhaire | ... |
13:18.13 | JoshBorke | lol |
13:18.14 | zenzelezz | gnome? |
13:18.14 | Gnarfoz | <JoshBorke> i use fishing ace + custom sound <-- custom sound? how? :> |
13:18.26 | Gnarfoz | I thought that was disabled a while back |
13:18.29 | cladhaire | no, tauren |
13:18.44 | JoshBorke | sea cow? |
13:18.47 | zenzelezz | cows need a lot of air |
13:18.55 | JoshBorke | /moo |
13:19.10 | Mikma | mm burgers |
13:19.20 | JoshBorke | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7030-FishBite.html |
13:19.30 | cladhaire | i died more in the past hour, thank i died from levels 60-65 |
13:19.31 | JoshBorke | but i use a different sound, just used the mod to find out where to put the sound |
13:19.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah I had an addon for that back then when \Data\ worked, too |
13:20.00 | Gnarfoz | gotta find that one again |
13:20.07 | JoshBorke | that one still works |
13:20.15 | Gnarfoz | weird |
13:20.42 | JoshBorke | wtf. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7019-FishBiteSound.html <-- why is that an ace mod when it's the exact same thing as the other mod, just a different sound? (ie just a wav file) |
13:23.55 | JoshBorke | bah! 2 casts in a row with no bites |
13:27.45 | JoshBorke | ok, time to pack my computer |
13:27.52 | JoshBorke | bb |
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13:39.46 | cladhaire | wow. |
13:39.48 | cladhaire | i just keep..dying. |
13:40.54 | cladhaire | i'm totally done with this |
13:41.55 | Gnarfoz | good idea, maybe the concept is indeed flawed if you keep dying ;D |
13:45.28 | cladhaire | its just retarded |
13:45.29 | cladhaire | imo |
13:45.29 | cladhaire | i'm actually leaving now |
13:45.29 | cladhaire | i'll be back |
13:45.29 | cladhaire | inevitably |
13:45.31 | cladhaire | but i'm annoyed. |
13:45.33 | cladhaire | to say the leasty |
13:46.55 | cladhaire | i'd be making money |
13:46.55 | cladhaire | if it weren't fo the effing repair bulls |
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14:00.01 | Gngsk | farming in skettis certainly can be annoying |
14:02.37 | cladhaire | indeed |
14:06.56 | Tem|Food | the trick is to stand VERY still for the first few mobs |
14:07.05 | cladhaire | aye |
14:07.06 | Tem|Food | then once you have a space to breathe in, it's not bad |
14:07.10 | cladhaire | but you can't farm the front |
14:07.14 | cladhaire | the back is where ya need to hang |
14:07.16 | cladhaire | and the roamers are a bitch |
14:07.25 | Tem | never been there |
14:07.34 | Tem | just heard how much of a bitch the mobs are |
14:07.41 | Tem | like raptors in ungoro |
14:07.44 | Tem | only level 70 |
14:08.38 | cladhaire | yeah they can suck |
14:09.03 | Tem | but the mote of water droprate is insane |
14:09.08 | Tem | so it's totally worth it |
14:09.09 | cladhaire | yeah |
14:09.14 | cladhaire | i just ghot frustrated |
14:09.16 | cladhaire | and set a time limit |
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14:19.28 | zenzelezz | well that's nice... accidentally double-clicked the X-Chat tray icon rather than Pidgin, and X-Chat crashed o_O |
14:24.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | this thread is full of ignorance that makes me sad and angry :[ http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101221363&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
14:24.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | angry enough to triple post, actually |
14:26.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | ignorance makes me angry, it's one of the few things out there that gets me worked up :[ |
14:26.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | HAY BLIZZ WHY U NO BAN GOLD FARMERS/SELLERS |
14:27.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | "well -I- don't like using addons, they have viruses" |
14:27.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | "hay guys look goldfarmers use glider to farm gold" |
14:27.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo, i need to chill off |
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15:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | guys i think i may draw webcomics in my sleep or something |
15:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | because this is way too familiar to me :x http://www.darklegacycomics.com/87.html |
15:40.02 | Corrodias | our main warrior tank is a keyboard turner |
15:40.37 | Corrodias | he's effective enough to be a MT in our karazhan raids, but he does have a half a second delay at times |
15:41.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i keyboard turn sometimes, it really depends on what i'm doing |
15:41.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the time i move with the mouse entirely though |
15:41.18 | Corrodias | mhm |
15:41.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | mouse 4 for autorun and right click for turning |
15:41.49 | Corrodias | we tried the ramparts last night (normal) with me healing. i just used the mouse for part of it as i ate with my other hand. |
15:41.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | my shapeshift forms are my numpad, so while shifting i'll switch to WSAD for movement then move back to the mouse |
15:42.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd do that while raiding |
15:42.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | autofollow a priest |
15:42.11 | Corrodias | the last boss went nuts, though. he was spitting more fire than he does even on heroic |
15:42.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and just click heal |
15:42.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | while eating |
15:42.30 | Corrodias | two people died >:o which i take as a personal affront |
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15:53.02 | Nom | omg |
15:53.06 | Nom | starcraft mmo rumoured |
15:53.46 | Nom | http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=163207&site=cvg |
15:54.10 | krka | it's gonna suck, i hear it's going to use VBscript instead of lua |
15:54.21 | nevcairiel | heh |
15:54.29 | nevcairiel | MS paid a fortune for that! |
15:58.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i highly doubt blizz is going to waste money with another MMO now |
15:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe in 5 years |
15:59.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | when the wow subscription tapers off |
15:59.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | they may announce they're starting development on it in a little while, at the very most, but even then may take some of the steam away from wow |
15:59.48 | krka | "i know, let's compete with ourselves!" |
16:00.21 | cladhaire | digg already has an article refuting it |
16:00.24 | cladhaire | from blizzard, allegedly |
16:00.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | all it would do would be taking subscribers from wow and putting them in WoSC |
16:01.01 | krka | UoSC |
16:01.04 | krka | or SCU |
16:01.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | who cares what the acronym is for a game that isn't going to be released for a while if ever :p |
16:02.07 | krka | acronyms FTW |
16:03.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | a sc mmo would hurt their money machine with wow |
16:03.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | sc2 would make a ton of sales |
16:03.49 | krka | they'll make sc2 depend on wow |
16:03.55 | krka | if you don't have wow, you cant play sc2 |
16:03.57 | krka | it's brilliant! |
16:04.11 | krka | basically let sc mmo be an expansion |
16:04.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | new wow expansion: |
16:04.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | forget the gear, you enter this new portal to a new continent |
16:04.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and all of a sudden it's an RTS in the FUTURE |
16:04.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the draenei have been renamed protoss! |
16:05.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | the silithids, who have started calling themselves the zerg, are attacking! |
16:05.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | the draenei-protoss have branched away from the alliance after all the factions mysteriously disappeared except for the humans, who are now referred to as terrans |
16:06.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd like a battleground where you play wc3 against each other, personally :p |
16:07.06 | krka | just a matter of time before blizzard merges sc and warcraft publically |
16:07.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | though i hear hyjal is pretty close to WC3, and looking at the map of it, it really does look close |
16:07.17 | krka | (you know the observer in sc has sounds from warcraft) |
16:08.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | well starcraft was built on the warcraft engine, they both play pretty much exactly the same except balancing stuff |
16:08.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | wc2... i think |
16:08.46 | krka | i meant lorewise |
16:09.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh i doubt they'd merge em |
16:09.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | it worked with warhammer until they severed the ties between whf and wh40k |
16:09.19 | krka | they already have in a way - protoss observers remember stuff from warcraft 2 |
16:09.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure that's just an easter egg and not canon |
16:09.52 | krka | same thing |
16:11.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so tempted to edit this and pass it off as leaked SC2 footage: http://youtube.com/watch?v=LYFGigguQWM |
16:13.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh i checked that thread again to see if any of the idiocy died down and got angry again |
16:13.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | time to watch This is Spinal Tap |
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16:24.32 | Tain | I do really hope they come out with a real StarCraft 2. I always liked SC better than the WarCraft games. |
16:26.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't, i like warcraft |
16:27.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially 3, because instead of just being generic fantasy, it really tears the fantasy archetypes up |
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16:27.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | like orcs != bad, elves != good, and good and evil are subjective |
16:27.56 | Tain | Yeah but that's how StarCraft was from the beginning. :) |
16:28.05 | Tain | No need to go back and try to shake things up. |
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16:34.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm probably going to be disliked for this, but dawn of war is more fun than starcraft |
16:34.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially at LANs |
16:35.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, having a massive 4v4 with your friends |
16:35.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | with a huge army, is just so fun |
16:40.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially after someone eventually wins |
16:40.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | seeing the thousands and thousands of corpses piled around the bases and in hotspots |
16:44.02 | krka | i hear dow uses lua too |
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16:53.02 | Cairenn | wheee, net split |
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16:54.42 | Tain | I'm not flexible enough for net splits. :/ |
16:56.04 | Cairenn | apparently freenode is though |
16:56.54 | Tain | Freenode will let anyone in! |
16:59.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm testing that theory, one second |
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17:00.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | Banned: Tor freenode is hidden-service-only |
17:00.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
17:03.11 | Elessdy | okay, how the heck do i figure out which addon is making me shift OUT of my forms when i try to cast a spell that i can't use in that form? |
17:03.17 | Elessdy | it's really, -really- irritating |
17:04.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | uhhh |
17:04.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forget, i had one that did that too |
17:04.55 | Corrodias | can i determine which functions are hooking spell casts or something? |
17:05.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | could be druid bar, i dunno |
17:05.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh jeez |
17:05.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is a guy on another irc network's UI: http://i19.tinypic.com/6b4qz9s.jpg |
17:05.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | clutteredinterface is cluttered |
17:05.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | also huge |
17:06.34 | Corrodias | i don't have druidbar :( |
17:06.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmm |
17:06.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | stupidmount? |
17:06.58 | Corrodias | mine's almost as bad, but i don't have HUEG unit frames like that |
17:06.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | or any kind of mount removing addon? |
17:07.07 | Corrodias | gogomount, but that didn't used to do it |
17:07.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | check in its options maybe |
17:07.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it could have an "also apply to druid forms" thing |
17:07.38 | kergoth | i think there are a few addons that do that. i know automaton has a module for that, if you use it |
17:09.18 | Corrodias | so is there any way to tell which it is besides going through their configurations, readmes, and enable/disable checks? |
17:11.01 | kergoth | grep/search for calls of whatever api call is used to change forms. |
17:11.06 | kergoth | thats what i'd do, anyway |
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17:14.02 | Corrodias | i don't know my way around the API and secure frames well enough to figure out how shifting works |
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17:15.00 | Corrodias | but maybe the command to -cancel- a form... |
17:17.29 | Corrodias | ugh, i can't even search for the error message because that's probably localized |
17:20.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any good addons that extend the quest tracker to >5? |
17:20.07 | Corrodias | wait, druid bar, is that the mana bar? |
17:20.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | preferably ones on the ace updater, but not because of why other people think ace is better, just because i'm too lazy to seek out updates manually :p |
17:20.21 | Corrodias | questsfu gives you a quest tracker that'll hold as many as you want... |
17:20.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, really |
17:20.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
17:20.51 | Corrodias | with optional, independent color coding for level, title, and objective |
17:21.09 | Corrodias | i keep the titles white but color the levels and objectives (by how complete they are) |
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17:22.48 | raevanmorlock | If you had to identify the dropdown list that appears when right-clicking a chat tab, what name would you give it? |
17:23.34 | Corrodias | druidbar does have the ability to unshift you under some circumstances, but the readme talks about slash commands that don't exist... |
17:24.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | chat tab dropdown options menu turbo megamix |
17:24.10 | Corrodias | the blizzard UI calls it DropDownList1 |
17:24.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 alpha 4 third strike |
17:24.27 | kergoth | Mr_Rabies2: questsfu and nquestlog are both quite nice |
17:24.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | we shall see |
17:24.45 | raevanmorlock | Corrodias: Every "level 1" dropdown list is called that |
17:24.52 | Corrodias | so why are you asking us? |
17:25.08 | Corrodias | that's a perfectly decent name |
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17:26.04 | raevanmorlock | I'm making an addon that allows you to freely edit the lists... so I'd prefer a name that actually pertains to the dropdown for the chat list themselves without being bloated or cryptic |
17:26.17 | Corrodias | ChatListDropdown? |
17:26.44 | raevanmorlock | meh.. maybe. I didn't wanna come up with one and then people be like "what the heck is a ___?" |
17:27.05 | Corrodias | ChatTabDropdown, i mean |
17:27.21 | Corrodias | nothing wrong with different conventions, too. chat_tab_dropdown_list |
17:27.52 | raevanmorlock | ChatTabDropDown works for me |
17:28.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd call it Dhalsim |
17:28.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | just because |
17:28.35 | Corrodias | looks like gogomount is one of the addons doing it |
17:28.50 | Corrodias | i don't remember getting ezdismount but i need to make sure that's not interfering as well |
17:29.27 | raevanmorlock | Mr_Rabies: The Street Fighting character? |
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17:29.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
17:29.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | the stretchy indian dude with the fire attacks |
17:29.54 | raevanmorlock | lol |
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17:33.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | questsfu isn't my cup of tea |
17:33.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do i have to be so picky |
17:33.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | the tracker isn't resizable, just rescalable |
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17:34.57 | Corrodias | this appears to be a bug in gogomount |
17:35.08 | Corrodias | the option to disable shifting out of forms automatically doesn't work |
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17:36.52 | Corrodias | oh, i see |
17:37.04 | Corrodias | that option is for whether or not it should include travel form in its list of stuff to mount into |
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17:49.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish there was just a quest tracker that just -extended- blizzard's with nothing else :/ |
17:49.31 | Corrodias | i rather like questsfu's tracker... |
17:49.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don' |
17:49.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't* |
17:49.38 | Corrodias | for one thing, it's repositionable, yay |
17:49.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not wide enough |
17:49.58 | Corrodias | this is an issue. it resizes itself but sometimes chooses poorly |
17:50.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | It does like this for my quests |
17:50.04 | Corrodias | sometimes it's very narrow |
17:50.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | The Vials |
17:50.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | of Eternity |
17:50.18 | Corrodias | most of the time it isn't like that |
17:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kill Lady Vashj and |
17:50.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kael thalas |
17:50.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | or whatever, you know |
17:50.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, thas |
17:51.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd like one that just extended the limit on the blizzard one, and otherwise acted just like it :x |
17:53.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
17:54.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | this comment on someone's addon makes me want to beat up puppies: |
17:54.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | Why does people spend time developing addons that already excits ? |
17:54.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | This funktion is in CT. |
17:54.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | And most people online use CT Raid. |
17:54.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | /facepalm |
17:55.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | well then that was interesting |
17:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i enable taintchecker and wow closes itself |
17:56.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | after going to a slideshow |
17:57.10 | Tain | That function already exists in CT Raid too! |
18:06.16 | raevanmorlock | Is there a function (or some other means) to change stance when a key is pressed? |
18:10.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, what do you mean? |
18:11.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | because you can bind the stances to keys in keybindings, or do you mean by means of an addon? |
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18:13.59 | raevanmorlock | A keybinding... my friend wants to be able to switch stances with key presses |
18:14.25 | raevanmorlock | And I haven't played a warrior in years |
18:22.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | its in the bindings |
18:22.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | by default it's ctrl f1, f2, etc |
18:22.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | tell him to look for whatever's bound to those and rebind them to what he wants |
18:22.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | special buttons or something i think |
18:25.27 | raevanmorlock | Thank ya |
18:25.33 | raevanmorlock | I shall go tell her she's a noob now |
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20:06.17 | AnduinLothar | lol i just ran out from Thorngrin |
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20:31.42 | sysrage | woot. spamsentry rocks |
20:32.07 | Kaydeethree | yes, yes it does |
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20:34.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | sho'nuff |
20:34.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't bother reporting because most of the accounts are banned before my ticket gets answered anyway |
20:34.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and thus it just increases ticket time |
20:34.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it does a good job blocking em |
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20:41.32 | foxlit | SS should just coordinate reporting through a hidden channel! |
20:41.41 | foxlit | [hooray for more network traffic!] |
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20:48.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh that would be awesome |
20:48.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, so great |
20:48.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | go to report one and see *name already reported* |
20:48.46 | leethal | zomg help. the combat log goes "Frost Trap III's Frost Trap effect was resisted by Hogger.". How can I know for sure which hunter that owned the trap? |
20:48.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that would be awesome |
20:49.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | ask him the following question |
20:49.07 | leethal | I guess I could "tag" a hunter for resist when he puts the trap, but what if there's multiple hunters around? |
20:49.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | "taht ur tarp" |
20:49.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's their native language |
20:49.20 | AnduinLothar | you cant leethal |
20:49.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll understand |
20:49.25 | leethal | *cry* |
20:54.10 | foxlit | ace2 needs a better config interface :( |
20:54.23 | foxlit | Or, rather, some ace2-derived addons need better config interfaces. |
20:54.43 | foxlit | Multi-level dropdown menus with nested controls are a bit excessive |
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20:55.24 | AnduinLothar | I'm in the middle of writing a Khaos plugin that allows ace addon configuration within Khaos |
20:56.13 | leethal | ace2 needs to start using Dongle |
20:56.56 | Mikma | where can horde learn maces |
20:57.04 | Cide | foxlit: yep, that's quite possibly the worst design I've seen |
20:57.48 | [dRaCo] | mikma: 2h maces should be orgrimmar |
20:57.58 | AnduinLothar | i'm planning on making the multi level dropdowns into sub sections with single layers, since khaos doesn't support multi level dropdowns and i thinkt hey're horrible for configs |
20:58.09 | Mikma | [dRaCo]: so, how can belf get to org? |
20:58.36 | foxlit | Teleporter in Silvermoon -> UC -> Zep -> Fly -> Org |
20:58.43 | [dRaCo] | dunno, have a warlock tp you? :> |
20:58.51 | Mikma | teleporter as mage or is there an npc? |
20:59.01 | foxlit | It's an object |
20:59.18 | Kaydeethree | it was an npc back in beta, though |
20:59.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'd be nice if fubar had a super secret modifier to make the tooltip stay there while i held it down so i could click on some stupid thing at the bottom of, say, GarbageFu, to sell it |
20:59.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | because every time, without fail, i start moving across the tooltip and it disappears |
21:00.02 | Mikma | so, if anyone can give me any extra info about the teleporter i would be thankful :) |
21:00.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i have to fight it for like 5 minutes to save me time vendoring my meat or whatever i feel like selling |
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21:08.08 | foxlit | Mikma: orb of translocation |
21:08.16 | foxlit | Northwest part, if memory serves. |
21:08.24 | foxlit | Inside a building, up a staircase sort of thing |
21:09.22 | Mikma | foxlit: thanks, will check it out :) |
21:14.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think you can ask a guard |
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21:15.44 | Kaso | ckknight: i think i asked you the other day but you were afk or something, but i have a question about cartogorpher |
21:16.00 | zenzelezz | cartowhatnot? |
21:16.15 | Kaso | Cartographer, and i suck at spelling >.< |
21:17.22 | zenzelezz | lol |
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21:18.35 | Kaso | ckknight: internet stable? , are you around? |
21:18.44 | ckknight | hey |
21:18.56 | Kaso | i think i asked you the other day but you were afk or something, but i have a question about cartogorpher |
21:19.07 | ckknight | k? |
21:19.23 | Neebler | the answer is 42 |
21:19.32 | Kaso | Do you use "2" as your CHAT_MSG_ADDON prefix for cartog |
21:20.16 | ckknight | Kaso: no. |
21:20.22 | ckknight | Kaso: it uses a 3-byte sequence |
21:20.28 | Shadowed | I think it's those chat mods that do it Kaso |
21:20.35 | Kaso | hmm, "those"? |
21:20.58 | Shadowed | the ones that create fake channels that are sent over things like GUILD messages |
21:20.59 | ckknight | Kaso: it could be that you only see the "2", the other bytes could be hidden |
21:21.03 | Shadowed | guild addon messages* |
21:21.20 | Kaso | hmm |
21:21.36 | Kaso | but if its random then it wouldnt have 2 in each session correct? |
21:21.41 | Kaso | oh wait |
21:21.42 | ckknight | it's not random. |
21:21.44 | Kaso | ah |
21:21.46 | Kaso | perhaps then. |
21:21.50 | ckknight | it's a memoized sequence |
21:22.31 | Kaso | ive just been mystifed by this GUILD spam ive been getting with 2 as the prefix but if theres some stuff that i cant see that makes more sense |
21:22.51 | Kaso | its not like its important or anything just im curious :> |
21:22.59 | batrick | try disabling addons? |
21:23.03 | batrick | lol |
21:23.06 | Kaso | well it isnt me, its my guildies |
21:23.25 | Kaydeethree | yell at them to figure out what they have running? |
21:23.25 | Kaso | i just happen to be playing with chat_msg_addon so i keep seeing thier spam on my addon that shows addon traffic |
21:25.53 | Kaso | Kaydeethree thats how i got cartog as one of my suspects :> they all seemed to be using that one, but it was harly a complete surveysorta |
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22:02.10 | batrick | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18508338/ |
22:02.17 | batrick | silly cannuks |
22:02.30 | ckknight | Kaso: every ~5 seconds Cartographer can run a message to the guild |
22:03.42 | Kaso | im getting stuff like this "CHAT_MSG_ADDON", arg1="2" arg2="Mm1" arg3="GUILD" arg4="PlayerName" |
22:04.25 | AnduinLothar | AceComm uses highly unreadable often invisible characters |
22:04.46 | Kaso | thats prob it then. |
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22:12.31 | sineP | Kaso? |
22:12.41 | Kaso | Hello :. |
22:12.46 | Kaso | So how can i help |
22:12.50 | sineP | okay |
22:13.18 | sineP | i need a macro that uses a certain rank of spell when my target has a certain amount of health.. is it possible |
22:13.24 | sineP | ? |
22:13.32 | Kaso | Im afraid it isnt since 2.1 |
22:13.34 | Thrae | sineP: Not since 2.x. |
22:13.42 | sineP | ah okay |
22:13.51 | Kaso | You have to decide what spell to cast yourself thats the general philosopy |
22:13.55 | Thrae | Kaso: 2.0 killed that, not 2.1 |
22:14.05 | Adys | i think he meant 2.0.1 |
22:14.09 | sineP | whatever |
22:14.20 | sineP | dang |
22:14.26 | sineP | well thx anyway |
22:14.32 | Kaso | I mean 2.0 yes, im just so used to typing 2.1 recently it comes without thinking :> |
22:14.37 | Thrae | Heh |
22:15.01 | Thrae | sineP: You could get an addon that "suggests" which rank of Healing to use. And out-of-combat, an addon which picks the rank of healing spell to use would work. |
22:15.30 | sineP | ye i have tried a thing called healing bot i think but the suggestions arent that good i think |
22:15.53 | Thrae | sineP: Yeah, its hard to put everything in the equations, which include healing bonuses, talents per class, etc. |
22:16.32 | sineP | ye.. the thing is i wanted the macro to like use rank 4 HT when target had 2k less HP than max and rank 8 when 3k under and so on |
22:16.40 | Thrae | Nope, can't do that. |
22:17.13 | sineP | fair enough.. |
22:17.21 | Thrae | I suggest just giving 'em different keybindings. I use SHIFT+LEFT-CLICK for Rank 7, ALT+LEFT-CLICK for Highest Rank, etc. |
22:17.31 | Thrae | I also use Click-Casting |
22:17.46 | sineP | ye thought about that but already have so many so its just like... "where do i put them" :O |
22:18.16 | Thrae | sineP: Consider using Clique or Click2Cast, etc. |
22:18.31 | sineP | addon? |
22:19.05 | Thrae | sineP: Yes, both are. Click Casting is now built into frames w/ 2.0, and both are managers w/ GUIs for using them. |
22:19.54 | sineP | nice.. |
22:20.13 | sineP | are they just called clique and Click2Cast? |
22:20.20 | Thrae | sineP: Click-Casting works thusly -- you can bind SHIFT+LEFTBUTTON (Mouse) to cast Healing Touch Rank 7 when you mouse over a unit frame, and it will cast it on that unit. It can also do Macros, use Items, etc. |
22:20.28 | Thrae | sineP: Yes |
22:20.47 | Thrae | sineP: Oh, and Click-Casting doesn't change your current target. |
22:21.02 | sineP | can u use it with CTRA? |
22:21.14 | sineP | raid frames |
22:21.28 | Thrae | You can try. I use the PerfectRaid frames myself. |
22:21.55 | sineP | another interface mod? |
22:21.59 | Thrae | Nice and minimalistic, with all the info most people need from CTRA. |
22:22.06 | Thrae | They are Raid frames, just raid frames. |
22:22.21 | Thrae | s/CTRA/CTRA's Raid Frames/ |
22:22.35 | Thrae | s/CTRA/CTRA\'s Raid Frames/ |
22:22.44 | sineP | okay.. never heard about them.. |
22:23.55 | Thrae | sineP: You don't have to use the raid frames that come with CTRA. You can use a replacement and turn off CTRA's, while still transmitting your data to the raid. |
22:24.09 | [dRaCo] | if you want something that looks like ctra, you could take a look at sraidframes |
22:24.55 | sineP | where do i find that+ |
22:24.56 | sineP | ? |
22:25.29 | [dRaCo] | should be on wowi |
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22:26.06 | sineP | okay okay.. didnt know they had that kind of stuff.. just bumped in here actually |
22:26.33 | Kaso | i shoved him in here from #wowwiki :> |
22:26.48 | Kaso | sineP, this is the channel for www.wowinterface.com check it out |
22:27.19 | sineP | ah thx |
22:28.15 | batrick | anyone here familiar with torque? |
22:28.20 | batrick | the game engine |
22:28.48 | Kaso | there was i about to start spamming physics ! |
22:29.27 | batrick | theory of relativity is easier than this engine >.> |
22:32.29 | Tain | haha ok so I knew there was a WoW branded Visa, but I didn't know it came with in-game rewards. |
22:32.39 | [dRaCo] | wtf? |
22:32.50 | Kaso | i thought you just got playtime |
22:32.54 | Tain | "Accrue World of Warcraft gametime at the rate of 1% of every dollar in qualifying purchases." |
22:32.54 | Kaso | what are the rewards? |
22:33.16 | Tain | Well I meant game time. |
22:33.42 | Kaso | I was imagening ingame airmile type rewards :< |
22:33.42 | sineP | Thrae: so when you like press on a player with Click-Casting through the PerfectRaid frames do you heal the player without detargeting? |
22:34.03 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
22:34.17 | [dRaCo] | works with most unitframes, not just pr, though |
22:34.26 | sineP | ? |
22:34.28 | sineP | PR? |
22:34.33 | [dRaCo] | perfect raid |
22:34.46 | sineP | ahh ye |
22:34.46 | sineP | ofc |
22:35.08 | sineP | does PR show buffs and debuffs ? |
22:35.24 | [dRaCo] | dunno, just check it out |
22:36.11 | [dRaCo] | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=cb72abc921d091caf56b1ba498765b13&id=4673 |
22:38.48 | sineP | what are the Click-casting addon called? |
22:38.55 | sineP | if it is an addon |
22:39.16 | [dRaCo] | there are at least 2 out there |
22:39.31 | [dRaCo] | clique and click2cast |
22:40.01 | [dRaCo] | I'm using click2cast, but that's just me |
22:40.57 | sineP | ty :) |
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22:58.28 | Tem | I want a "gear bag" |
22:58.38 | Tem | perhaps they could call it a suitcase |
22:58.50 | batrick | we need a kennel too |
22:59.33 | zenzelezz | gear bag? |
23:00.36 | Tem | zenzelezz, like an herb bag or a soul bag |
23:00.40 | Tem | but for soulbound gear |
23:00.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | give druids a shapeshifting gear bag krhx |
23:00.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | er kthx |
23:00.59 | Tem | even if it was bank only |
23:01.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'm tired of lugging around 3 sets everywehre |
23:01.14 | Tem | I never want to sell my old sets |
23:01.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i finally decided to bank my healing gear |
23:01.29 | zenzelezz | can't fit much plate in a suitcase :-| |
23:01.39 | Kaso | Half my inventory is items |
23:01.41 | Tem | so I still have my Magister's, Arcanist, NW, ect |
23:01.53 | Kaso | and about 2/3 my bank is gear also |
23:01.57 | Tem | I'm only carrying 16 slots of gear atm |
23:02.02 | Tem | but it used to be much worse |
23:02.37 | Kaso | Healing, shadow, Healing + stam, shadow + stam, i carry thats like 2 full sets and two part sets. |
23:02.41 | zenzelezz | my bank is 1 NR bag, 1 FR bag, 1 AR bag, 1 DPS bag, 1 misc. bag :-| |
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23:07.33 | Thunder_Child2 | "Topic for #wowi-lounge set by Cairenn at Sun Apr 29 07:36:34 2007" *cough* *cough* |
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23:15.04 | Kaso | Is it possible to use secure frames to target spells onto items? |
23:15.15 | Kaso | enchants/oils/etc |
23:16.12 | Karrion | Kaso: yes |
23:16.26 | Karrion | see my addon Poisoner for an example |
23:16.35 | Kaso | I'll take a look at your code, thanks |
23:17.04 | Karrion | np |
23:21.05 | kergoth | love that addon :) |
23:21.12 | Kaso | awesome worked it out now. |
23:21.44 | Karrion | cool, glad I could help ;-) |
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23:29.15 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
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23:29.53 | SpiderFLS | hi |
23:31.01 | Kaso | hello |
23:31.21 | SpiderFLS | i have a little problem, for my mod i need to get the actionbar id of the "attack" button, but i cant check the texture because it changes depending on your weapon, is there an other way to get its id? |
23:31.45 | Iriel | I think there's a method or return to check that, one sec |
23:32.03 | SpiderFLS | ok |
23:32.34 | Iriel | IsAttackAction(slot) |
23:32.49 | Thrae | SpiderFLS: Turning on and off auto-attack has its own methods, independant of if you put it on the actionbar or not. You can toggle auto-attack with a keybind in the default UI. |
23:33.02 | SpiderFLS | ohh thats sweet, thx a lot:D |
23:33.28 | SpiderFLS | i dont need the status only the id but thx for the info:D |
23:33.56 | Thrae | SpiderFLS: Why do you need to know if someone has the "attack" button on their actionbar? 2.0 gives /startattack and /stopattack |
23:34.26 | Thrae | Iriel: Does that also return true if the action causes auto-attack to turn on (such as Rogue normal attacks)? |
23:34.27 | SpiderFLS | i need it for range coloring |
23:35.02 | Thrae | Oh, I use Iriel's RedRange for that. Maybe you should look at his code. |
23:35.37 | SpiderFLS | hmm but IsAttackAction(slot) would give me the id of every attack action right? |
23:36.06 | DT_ | It doesn't return the id, you pass the id and it returns whether or not that id is an attack action |
23:36.18 | DT_ | So you'd loop through all the button id's and do a check |
23:36.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a color picker for redrange? |
23:36.55 | SpiderFLS | yes but if i make a check for the id's it would give me all the id's... thats what i meant... |
23:37.10 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Its RedRange, not PrismRangers! |
23:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | PowerRangers |
23:37.35 | Thrae | Prism Rangers is from Disgaea the video game ;) |
23:37.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
23:37.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to play that |
23:37.48 | SpiderFLS | ok thats of no use for me since i only need to know which the autoattack button is..... |
23:37.49 | Thrae | Disgaea is awesome. |
23:37.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear the english translators had a field day with those games |
23:38.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | putting in random internet references while still keeping it to the original |
23:38.34 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: A lot of the jokes in the Japanese version don't translate well across cultures, so the translators added a lot of things the average English-speaking gamer would understand |
23:38.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | right |
23:38.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | the same thing they did with shin-chan |
23:38.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | and excel saga |
23:39.00 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies2: Red range is simple enough you can edit the code if you need a color picker 8-) |
23:39.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
23:39.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was thinking so |
23:39.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | does it use like, hex color values? |
23:39.25 | Thrae | RedRange has a trivial amount of code |
23:39.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | like FF0000? |
23:39.29 | Kaso | i'll use a r g b value |
23:39.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah okay |
23:39.33 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies: I wrote it after frustration with bloated coloring addons |
23:39.39 | SpiderFLS | what about parsing the tooltips to find out where the autoattack button is? |
23:39.42 | Iriel | Mr_Rabies2: It's standard 0 - 1 wow values |
23:39.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, that's all i use in baroptions now, and it's pretty much falling apart |
23:40.01 | Iriel | SpiderFLS: You may want to see if IsAutoRepeatAction helps, but i'm not sure how close it gets you |
23:40.23 | SpiderFLS | Iriel: thx i will take a look at that |
23:40.27 | Thrae | SpiderFLS: Either way, you are looking at iterating over ActionButtons 1-120 |
23:40.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's got no one maintaining it in cosmos, so it's being kept afloat by code donations |
23:40.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it likes to make my multibars go non-transparent for empty buttons occasionally |
23:40.56 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: I still like Bartender3. |
23:41.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
23:41.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like the default BARS |
23:41.34 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Bartender3 is skinnable. |
23:41.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | truth be told i like the default interface pretty well |
23:41.36 | Iriel | If you just want attack, can't you use the spell and IsSpellInRange? |
23:41.39 | SpiderFLS | Iriel: thats not good because its only true when autoattack is active:/ |
23:41.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it is, but what's the point in skinning it to look like the default bars when i like the default ones :p |
23:42.34 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Bartender3 changes the default action buttons anyway... |
23:42.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm confused now |
23:43.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm using the default buttons because i like those more than any alternatives i've gotten so far :O |
23:43.55 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Bartender3 changes the look of the default action buttons, like many other action button mods. |
23:44.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i know, i used it |
23:44.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just didn't like getting rid of the art frame |
23:44.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason it helps me keep things organized |
23:44.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | all i dislike on the art frame are the gryphons |
23:44.34 | Thrae | Well, you can tell Bartender3 to put stuff back... |
23:44.51 | Thrae | All it does is call :Hide() for the art on PEW |
23:45.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
23:45.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | waste of time |
23:45.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd just make it look like the default if i did anything, and that's a bit pointless :p |
23:45.33 | Thrae | Yes, let's use a non-working mod because the mod that works contains too many features :D |
23:45.51 | Thrae | s/non\-working/semi\-non\-working/ |
23:46.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | what non-working mod am i using |
23:46.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
23:46.11 | DT_ | CTMod has an option to hide the gryphons Mr_Rabies2, or you can make a macro that says /script MainMenuBarLeftEndCap:Hide() MainMenuBarRightEndCap:Hide() |
23:46.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | bar options isn't a replacement for the default |
23:46.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just kinda overlays it |
23:46.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i said all i use in it is the redrange |
23:46.38 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: ...Like I said, Bartender3 doesn't make NEW buttons |
23:47.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's not entirely true, i do use the little keybinding things on there, but i think i may be wrong about baroptions causing my transparency woes |
23:47.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm trying to track it down now |
23:47.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i guess it was baroptions |
23:48.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | no problem though |
23:48.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can get a few modular addons and restore the same functionality, like redrange, hidegryphons, and the like |
23:49.19 | Thrae | Those aren't modular, those are just seperate addons. A modular addon would be, say, BigWigs, oRA, Cartographer, etc. |
23:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i misused the term :x |
23:49.41 | Iriel | They're modular against the main UI, so the term does sort of apply |
23:49.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i meant tiny addons with a very specified use |
23:50.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think doublewide is probably my favorite of these types |
23:50.17 | Thrae | Iriel: That's kinda stretching it ;) |
23:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just makes sense :O |
23:51.30 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: You conservative UI modder ;) |
23:51.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a conservative UI user, not a modder :p |
23:52.23 | Thrae | I'm using "modder" in the sense of an addon user with a specific theme in mind. |
23:52.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait, i guess you could mean ui modder as in mod user |
23:52.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
23:52.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
23:52.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i misread |
23:53.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, confirmed to be baroptions |
23:53.10 | Thrae | I don't like most of the default UI myself. I prefer a more minimalistic approach. |
23:53.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet it's something nice and simple to fix that bug |
23:53.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's driving me batty |
23:53.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have interface OCD |
23:53.54 | Thrae | DoubleWide does look nice. Seems like it was made during the period I wasn't playing WoW. |
23:54.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll spend hours tweaking settings to my liking |
23:54.06 | Iriel | Thrae: It's fairly recent (last few months) |
23:54.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and something goes and breaks a small part and i'll flip out |
23:54.23 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: As do I, but I have a ton more addons and options then you ;) |
23:54.33 | Thrae | Iriel: Yeah, I haven't played in a few months. |
23:54.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | yet i can play on the default interface perfectly fine with a couple macros setup |
23:55.12 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: It gets tricky without macros, but the default UI is fine...I just don't like its look |
23:55.24 | Iriel | Thrae: Indeed, it was mid-feb, when Kudane suggested it. |
23:55.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh, i like it pretty good |
23:55.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but pitbull and its ilk are so sleek :x |
23:55.58 | Thrae | However, I do have a few helper addons which make things easier, such as Decursive 2.0 |
23:56.36 | Thrae | Ewww, PitBull. PerfectRaid w/ its Party Frames here. |
23:56.45 | Thrae | True minimalist! |
23:57.24 | zenzelezz | liar |
23:57.30 | zenzelezz | minimalists play with UIParent hidden |
23:58.39 | Mikma | Thrae: PR Party <3 |
23:59.23 | Thrae | zenzelezz: I also play with the monitor turned off, of course. |
23:59.49 | Thrae | No sound, no keyboard, no mouse, no computer, no electricity, no house, no grass. |
23:59.51 | Mikma | I play without computer even being on |
23:59.59 | Mikma | Thrae: no brain. |