| 00:00.34 | Corrodias | it is still funny |
| 00:00.34 | Corrodias | i enjoyed reading it |
| 00:01.01 | chuckg | But yes, I knew what he meant. |
| 00:01.05 | chuckg | More fun pretending I did not. |
| 00:02.02 | Corrodias | :) |
| 00:06.16 | cladhaire | oomkin need to learn to control their aggro |
| 00:15.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 00:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | new myndflame video |
| 00:15.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ctVrpQ-orss |
| 00:15.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | "Learn 2 Play" |
| 00:16.47 | Mikma | cladhaire: oomkins don't control aggro, they nuke |
| 00:17.11 | cladhaire | yes and i want to stab them |
| 00:17.15 | pastamancer | my group uses a moonkin on curator to pick up flares :) |
| 00:18.18 | Mikma | cladhaire: that's the reason why i too hate oomkins |
| 00:18.28 | Mikma | they just nuke nuke nuke and then are about to die because of that |
| 00:18.36 | cladhaire | i tell them i won't heal them |
| 00:18.38 | cladhaire | and then i dont' |
| 00:18.39 | cladhaire | and they die |
| 00:18.40 | cladhaire | i giggle |
| 00:18.43 | Mikma | they usually start the moonfirespam before tank has even hit the mobs |
| 00:18.57 | Mikma | serves them right. a-holes |
| 00:19.04 | Mikma | tell them to go respec to heal |
| 00:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd leave the group if someone told me that :O |
| 00:19.29 | cladhaire | if you're oomkin |
| 00:19.33 | cladhaire | that would be an upgrade for the group |
| 00:19.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've yet to have problems with oomkins |
| 00:20.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | only stupid mages, rogues, and locks so far |
| 00:20.19 | Mikma | the last oomkin i saw played with 1 hand |
| 00:20.25 | Mikma | he's other was hurt or so |
| 00:20.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | mainly because unlike the aforementioned classes they can actually tank a bit |
| 00:20.37 | Mikma | all he did was spam moonfire at botanica boss nr.2 |
| 00:20.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | a good moonkin is an incredibly useful asset |
| 00:21.05 | cladhaire | i agree |
| 00:21.09 | cladhaire | but how many good ones do YOU know? |
| 00:21.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | more than i know good rogues, mages, warriors, or hunters :p |
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| 00:21.27 | pastamancer | we let our moonkin stay moonkin because he's an even worse healer >< |
| 00:21.33 | Mikma | lol |
| 00:21.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's saying something since druids are the least played class :O |
| 00:22.26 | Tain | I've never met a good druid. |
| 00:22.44 | Tain | I know the law of averages means there must be some. |
| 00:22.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids, in my experience are the best players |
| 00:22.54 | Shadowed | and the most bitchy |
| 00:22.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | hunters the worst |
| 00:22.56 | pastamancer | I've met a few good ferals |
| 00:23.01 | Mikma | that's a class that really requires skills to play |
| 00:23.14 | Mikma | (play good i meant) |
| 00:23.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | followed by rogues then mages |
| 00:23.24 | Industrial | druid |
| 00:23.28 | Tain | But I've never played with one who was any good. Not only bad players, but absolute pricks. |
| 00:23.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | the old school druids are insanely good players |
| 00:23.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | because we could beat people when we were more or less a free HK |
| 00:24.09 | Tain | I'm sure there have to be some out there, somewhere. |
| 00:24.22 | Mikma | oh the best thing i saw some time ago was oomkin druid who always spent innervate on himself at bossfights |
| 00:24.36 | Mikma | that also meant that there was 1-2 persons alive after the bossfight |
| 00:24.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't understand, are the servers i'm on like, some kind of alternate reality |
| 00:25.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i've rarely seen a 'bad' druid |
| 00:25.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | some mediocre ones, sure |
| 00:25.12 | Mikma | i was the only healer there and ran out of mana, and he spent innervate on himself so he can nuke!! |
| 00:25.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i've seen hunters that don't use ranged weapons |
| 00:25.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen rogues that don't stealth, or pull with ambush |
| 00:26.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen mages that sit there nuking nonstop while they tank a mob |
| 00:26.04 | Tain | Stealth isn't alwyas useful though. That's a situational thing. |
| 00:26.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, never. |
| 00:26.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | even for a split second to get an opener off |
| 00:26.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen hunters let their pets sit in aggressive |
| 00:27.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | most people give up on druids before level 20, because the learning curve is such a pain |
| 00:27.21 | Shadowed | Druids are retarded to level before 20 |
| 00:27.37 | Shadowed | spamming moonfire for 10 levels then sitting in bear for the next 10 is incredibly boring |
| 00:28.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not easy to play 3-4 classes at once |
| 00:28.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | with tons of situational abilities, that when used properly are powerful, but due to their situational...ness, they're rarely useful |
| 00:29.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but despite all of that, i've seen more good druids than any other class |
| 00:29.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure, i may not see anyone but myself and a couple others bash, innervate the priest, then go back into tanking, but i do that mostly to see how the group responds :p |
| 00:32.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | the stupid players tend to give up on druids before they're fun to play, so i rarely see bad ones, other than the ones that never ever ever ever use forms or never heal/innervate/whatever when necessary/possible for them to |
| 00:32.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | but bad hunters? a daily experience |
| 00:32.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i really, really hate hunters in general |
| 00:32.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, my hunter too |
| 00:33.10 | Industrial | I find hunter to be fun in pvp though |
| 00:33.25 | Industrial | kiting meelees |
| 00:33.25 | Industrial | :D |
| 00:33.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | /targetenemy /petattack /cast auto-shot /eat pizza |
| 00:33.29 | Industrial | yeh |
| 00:33.43 | Industrial | also mark /stopcasting |
| 00:33.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | no other class is nearly as easy to play |
| 00:34.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | however i see people failing at playing them every day |
| 00:34.09 | Industrial | lock |
| 00:34.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with warlocks |
| 00:34.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | locks are incredibly easy to play yet i see people sucking at them too |
| 00:35.10 | Industrial | well for some classes pulling things off in the right order at the right time is essential for keeping your mana high for grinding eg priest. hunters are the same always. |
| 00:35.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids require constant attention to the situation to play well |
| 00:35.50 | Industrial | never played beyind 15 |
| 00:35.51 | Industrial | :P |
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| 00:35.56 | Industrial | bo-ho-ring |
| 00:36.04 | Industrial | hi Kaelten |
| 00:36.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're halfassing it, you're going to miss your one chance to take advantage of their weakness |
| 00:36.42 | Industrial | + i didnt like shapeshifting cause im too lazy to support it in my bar addon |
| 00:36.45 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:37.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've played every class at least to 30, and while that's not a perfect measure, i've done my fair work on the ones i know the least about on the PTRs when premades were available |
| 00:37.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and so far, druids are the hardest, but the most rewarding when you pull off something insane |
| 00:37.55 | Industrial | 30 mins til maintenance on EU, sigh. |
| 00:38.04 | Industrial | Does anyone know a FUN game with freeshards? |
| 00:38.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, oh, soloing a lock and a paladin at the same time, which are usually my hardest classes to kill |
| 00:38.17 | Industrial | Ive come to the conclusion that free mmorpg's dont exist |
| 00:38.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | second life, if you can get past all the furries and other weird fetishes |
| 00:38.39 | Industrial | i have most problems with warlock |
| 00:38.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | is free, if you let it be |
| 00:38.45 | Industrial | thats hardly a game |
| 00:38.49 | Kaelten | hi industrial |
| 00:39.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, griefing furries with the SA Goons is pretty fun |
| 00:39.20 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:39.21 | Industrial | . |
| 00:39.32 | Industrial | I'm going to check it out just for that |
| 00:39.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, one time we teleported into one of the scary furry sex zones |
| 00:39.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | all as zerglings |
| 00:39.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | like 20 of us or so |
| 00:40.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and we all started yelling SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS, WE REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS, etc |
| 00:40.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | good times. |
| 00:40.33 | beerke | i sense hunter hate in this channel, bad vibes ! |
| 00:41.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had bad bad experiences with hunters |
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| 00:41.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | hunters with no ammo equipped stating "i ran out of ammo at like level 5 lol" |
| 00:41.48 | beerke | :) |
| 00:41.57 | Industrial | L |
| 00:41.57 | Industrial | O |
| 00:41.58 | Industrial | L |
| 00:42.05 | beerke | A good hunter is dependant on the group he is in |
| 00:42.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | a good hunter is a great thing |
| 00:42.19 | TC-Working | Industrial...SPAM!! |
| 00:42.24 | beerke | As in people knowing how a frost trap works for example |
| 00:42.27 | Industrial | O R L Y? |
| 00:42.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | too bad they're more rare than seeing a world drop epic |
| 00:42.52 | TC-Working | yes |
| 00:42.53 | beerke | Well dps wise you should easy see diff by a good and a bad hunter |
| 00:43.18 | Kaelten | anyone know a way to get the quest level for the quests that just show up when you talk that you don't have the gossip screen for? |
| 00:44.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha when i clicked on the new myndflame video |
| 00:44.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | like 10 minutes ago |
| 00:45.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there were <300 views |
| 00:45.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | now there's ~8500 |
| 00:45.10 | Kaso | Kaelten: are you sure GetGossipAvailableQuests() doesnt return anything for them? |
| 00:45.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | over 9000 now :x |
| 00:46.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, this song is gonna be stuck in my head for weeks |
| 00:46.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've already watched it like 5 times |
| 00:48.09 | Tem | OVER NINE THOUSAND?!?! |
| 00:48.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was gonna make that joke |
| 00:48.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i decided against it |
| 00:48.38 | Kaelten | Kaso: nope |
| 00:57.59 | Tem | ~laziness |
| 00:58.15 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:58.15 | Tem | ~impatience |
| 00:58.19 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:58.20 | Tem | ~hubris |
| 00:58.22 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. <Hubris> - Eating their cake, too. |
| 00:58.23 | Tem | ~fear of complexity |
| 00:58.28 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:58.30 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:58.45 | Mikma | Tem: so how are you today, besides all that? |
| 00:59.03 | Tain | ~today |
| 00:59.05 | purl | Wednesday sucks. |
| 00:59.45 | Tem | ~yesterday |
| 00:59.47 | purl | Yesterday? it sucked. |
| 00:59.51 | Corrodias | i cannot figure out how to configure perfectraid to do debuff highlighting |
| 00:59.52 | Tem | ~tomorrow |
| 00:59.54 | purl | Tomorrow will probably suck too. |
| 01:00.16 | TC-Working | ...today isnt wednesday though |
| 01:00.22 | Tem | yes it is |
| 01:00.26 | Tem | GMT |
| 01:00.35 | TC-Working | oh..... |
| 01:00.37 | Shirik | tem, I've never heard that befo |
| 01:00.38 | Shirik | re |
| 01:00.40 | Shirik | but that's awesome |
| 01:00.42 | Legorol | i can confirm that, in GMT, it is in fact Wednesday |
| 01:00.53 | Legorol | i'm sitting in it |
| 01:00.53 | Tem | Shirik, the virtues of a programmer? |
| 01:00.57 | Shirik | affirmative |
| 01:01.02 | Tem | Shirik, it's a perl thing |
| 01:01.05 | Shirik | ah |
| 01:01.07 | Tem | well, the first 3 are |
| 01:01.08 | Shirik | never got into perl |
| 01:01.11 | Tem | me either |
| 01:02.31 | Tem | Shirik, the first 3 are from that guy |
| 01:02.37 | Tem | the one who did perl |
| 01:02.47 | Tem | or wrote some big perl book |
| 01:02.50 | Tem | damn |
| 01:02.54 | Tem | why am I drawing such a blank |
| 01:02.55 | cladhaire | Corrodias: it doesn't have that feature at the moment |
| 01:03.05 | Legorol | My guild took Curator, and I wasn't present |
| 01:03.53 | Tem | everytime I hear about the "raiding branch" of our guild killing a new boss, it hurts a little inside |
| 01:04.00 | Corrodias | someone told me it does |
| 01:04.04 | Tem | I miss sort of raiding |
| 01:04.04 | Karrion | Tem: Larry Wall |
| 01:04.09 | Tem | yeah |
| 01:04.10 | Tem | there you go |
| 01:04.11 | Corrodias | well what do you know.. |
| 01:04.57 | Corrodias | let's see, what else am i noticing about it... can't remember how i turned on highlighting people when i mouse over them, but i don't know if i had that on anyway, or if it was available |
| 01:05.48 | Corrodias | looking good |
| 01:06.01 | Tem | I think that feature might be off atm |
| 01:06.07 | Mikma | i don't know is highlight in current PR |
| 01:06.14 | Tem | clad is even more picky than me with his highlight graphic |
| 01:06.15 | Mikma | it was in the pre-TBC yes |
| 01:06.30 | cladhaire | those haven't been in since 2.1 |
| 01:06.33 | Tem | and I'm picky as HELL when it comes to the appearance of my addons |
| 01:06.36 | cladhaire | well thats a lie |
| 01:06.38 | cladhaire | the code is all there i think |
| 01:06.43 | Tem | speaking of which |
| 01:06.43 | cladhaire | just needs to be commentred out actually |
| 01:06.44 | cladhaire | btu i hate it. |
| 01:06.58 | Tem | Bela, I still want buttons and an editbox |
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| 01:08.14 | Shadowed | Bela is online? |
| 01:09.51 | Corrodias | hm. |
| 01:10.49 | Corrodias | i was quite satisfied with the highlighting before 2.0 |
| 01:11.35 | Mikma | purl: message to Beladona: we miss you! |
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| 01:12.50 | Shadowed | purl: botmail for Mikma: l2purl |
| 01:13.32 | Legorol | it's good to be in the EU |
| 01:13.40 | Legorol | our maintenance doesn't coincide with PTR maintenance :o) |
| 01:13.51 | Mikma | Shadowed: my string did work actually :) |
| 01:13.53 | Legorol | when realms are down, hop on to PTR |
| 01:13.56 | Shadowed | lies |
| 01:13.58 | Mikma | <0411> [freenode] <purl> OK, mikma, I'll let Beladona know. |
| 01:14.07 | Shadowed | purl, stab Mikma |
| 01:14.23 | purl | ACTION runs at Mikma with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 01:14.23 | cladhaire | Corrodias: i wasn't. |
| 01:14.59 | cladhaire | it was hideous |
| 01:15.17 | Mikma | Shadowed: nicely stabbed, made me lag like hell |
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| 01:15.29 | Shadowed | damn you purl |
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| 01:36.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Steam gets awesomer by the day |
| 01:47.25 | Corrodias | okay, my UI takes entirely too long to reload |
| 01:50.15 | leethal | Corrodias: get a mod-dev-char with no other addons loaded that devtools and the addon you're working on |
| 01:50.25 | leethal | Corrodias: got a level two warrior with liek 10 days played hehe |
| 01:57.10 | pastamancer | I have a crash-test warlock |
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| 02:06.08 | Tem | I can't wait to get my druid to where he has flight form |
| 02:06.18 | Tem | because I keep him unguilded |
| 02:06.27 | Tem | so I can hide when I need peace |
| 02:06.46 | Tem | and with flight form, there's so many awesome places to go hide while working on addons |
| 02:08.13 | Tem | but realistically, that's never going to happen |
| 02:08.36 | Tem | I will probably never level him again |
| 02:08.40 | JoshBorke | i just go to the top of teh world |
| 02:08.41 | Tem | he's doomed to be 29 forever |
| 02:08.50 | JoshBorke | even if they find me, they can't kill me |
| 02:09.07 | Tem | it has nothing to do with being ganked or anything |
| 02:09.17 | Tem | just a peacful area of the game to work in |
| 02:09.36 | Tem | without players, npcs, or mobs buzzing around you |
| 02:10.24 | Tem | especially players that thing I as a mage owe them food, water, and ports to wherever they please |
| 02:10.24 | Tem | s/thing/think/ |
| 02:14.45 | Shirik | cladhaire, btw |
| 02:14.47 | Shirik | this is awesome |
| 02:14.58 | cladhaire | ? |
| 02:15.03 | Shirik | almost no memory increase, no performance loss |
| 02:15.07 | Shirik | thanks for the suggestion earlier :) |
| 02:15.12 | cladhaire | hehe np |
| 02:19.44 | Mikma | Mr_Rabies2: btw, i have seen a great hunter :D |
| 02:19.59 | Mikma | he really knows how to play his class and how frost trap works |
| 02:20.20 | Mikma | in instances he's the last one that has mob alive because he knows how to keep it in iceblock |
| 02:25.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're not a great hunter until you kite gamon to silithus |
| 02:26.25 | Tem | cladhaire, what'd you tell him to do? |
| 02:26.36 | cladhaire | ? |
| 02:26.46 | Tem | <Shirik> cladhaire, btw |
| 02:26.46 | Tem | <Shirik> this is awesome |
| 02:26.55 | Tem | <Shirik> thanks for the suggestion earlier :) |
| 02:27.07 | cladhaire | oh he was parsing combat log realtime |
| 02:27.10 | cladhaire | i told him to store it verbatim |
| 02:27.12 | cladhaire | save on storage |
| 02:27.14 | cladhaire | and strings |
| 02:27.24 | cladhaire | and process out of combat |
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| 02:27.39 | cladhaire | nothing special |
| 02:27.47 | chronx | hello |
| 02:28.01 | Tem | oh |
| 02:28.20 | chronx | can anyone help me figure out why my addon isn't being loaded? its rather strange that my code is almost exactly the same as my other working addons, yet mine doesn't load |
| 02:30.27 | Cairenn | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 02:30.50 | chronx | rgr |
| 02:31.15 | chronx | do you want just the .lua or the .toc and .xml as well? |
| 02:32.39 | Cairenn | whatever you think people need to see to help you debug it |
| 02:33.07 | Kirkburn|afk | You're saying it doesn't load /at all/? |
| 02:33.11 | chronx | not that i know of |
| 02:33.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Does it appear in the character screen addon list? |
| 02:33.27 | chronx | its in the addon list and its not 'incompatible' |
| 02:33.40 | chronx | so its making it that far but the slash commands don't work |
| 02:34.12 | Shirik | what is "don't work" |
| 02:34.32 | Shirik | i.e., how do you know it's not working? |
| 02:34.32 | Kirkburn|afk | "Don't respond", is my guess :P |
| 02:34.55 | Kirkburn|afk | First thing to check is the toc I reckon |
| 02:35.08 | chronx | i might have found it one sec |
| 02:38.20 | chronx | http://wowi.pastey.net/20531 |
| 02:38.34 | chronx | omg. |
| 02:38.56 | chronx | just realized what i did... helloW_world.xml .. extra W -_- |
| 02:39.37 | chronx | pastey.com is pretty cool.. better than most pastebins i've used |
| 02:40.15 | chronx | fixed the filename problem but it still doesn't work |
| 02:41.40 | chronx | the slash commands aren't recognized that is |
| 02:43.19 | chronx | notice anything i missed? |
| 02:46.19 | Gnarfoz | restarted wow? |
| 02:46.28 | Shirik | not just reload ui |
| 02:46.30 | Shirik | restarted |
| 02:46.32 | Gnarfoz | new files don't pick up on reload |
| 02:46.39 | Gnarfoz | *are not picked up |
| 02:46.50 | chronx | i relogin, that refreshes the .toc file it seems |
| 02:46.54 | chronx | but i'll restart wow either way |
| 02:47.05 | Nom- | hmm also |
| 02:47.39 | Nom- | SLASH_HELLOW1, SLASH_HELLOW2 , since you did SlashCmdList["HELLOW"] ? |
| 02:48.00 | Nom- | In fact, yes, you do |
| 02:48.01 | Nom- | SLASH_<CommandId><num> |
| 02:48.01 | Nom- | SlashCmdList["<CommandId>"] = <CodeToExecute> |
| 02:48.34 | chronx | hmm restarted wow and nothing still |
| 02:48.50 | Nom- | Yead what I just put...your SLASH_ variables are wrong |
| 02:49.13 | Nom- | They need to be SLASH_HELLOW1 nor SLASH_HELLO1 |
| 02:49.20 | Nom- | s/nor/not/ |
| 02:49.47 | chronx | damn those W's |
| 02:51.39 | chronx | bwahaha it works now :) |
| 02:52.13 | Nom- | woot :D |
| 02:52.17 | Nom- | Company LAN this weekend |
| 02:52.40 | Nom- | UT2K4, Tiberium Wars, Quake 2 & 3 |
| 02:52.46 | Nom- | Quality games, all of them :D |
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| 03:26.03 | Shirik | so, so far I've recorded 90 minutes of combat |
| 03:26.10 | Shirik | I'm really wondering how long it will take to parse this when I end it :P |
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| 03:34.11 | JoshBorke | parsing in a coroutine? cause that would be nifty |
| 03:34.18 | Shirik | yah |
| 03:34.35 | Shirik | it's even niftier with the VFL adaptive scheduler |
| 03:34.58 | JoshBorke | very nifty :-) |
| 03:35.03 | Shirik | basically |
| 03:35.05 | JoshBorke | what's the mem usage of storing the details? |
| 03:35.10 | Shirik | you tell the scheduler how often you want it to work |
| 03:35.21 | Shirik | which I set to every 0.03 seconds |
| 03:35.29 | Shirik | from there, it tries to accomodate that |
| 03:35.38 | Shirik | if it notices framerates too low, etc., it compensates by delaying |
| 03:35.42 | Shirik | and speeding up when it can |
| 03:35.51 | JoshBorke | very nifty |
| 03:35.56 | Shirik | actually... |
| 03:36.12 | Shirik | I'm not even using 0.1KB/sec in a 5-man instance |
| 03:36.14 | Shirik | while logging |
| 03:36.20 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 03:36.20 | Shirik | as for parsing, I know that's going to take a lot morem emory |
| 03:36.27 | JoshBorke | thinking about it you shouldn't see any mem usage |
| 03:36.29 | Shirik | haven't tried yet |
| 03:36.39 | JoshBorke | except that is incured from increasing the size of a table |
| 03:36.55 | Shirik | right |
| 03:36.56 | Iriel | Hm, it must be a quiet instance then |
| 03:36.58 | JoshBorke | (i'm making broad assumptions that you're storing the strings in a table of some sort) |
| 03:37.10 | JoshBorke | all of the strings are created elsewhere |
| 03:37.10 | Iriel | I'd expect the string events alone to be consuming more memory in combat |
| 03:37.33 | Shirik | sec I'll explain how I did it |
| 03:37.34 | Iriel | The 'elsewhere' is still in the lua environment though |
| 03:37.40 | Shirik | trying to heal while talking here >< |
| 03:37.46 | Shirik | not entirely working |
| 03:37.47 | Iriel | Unless the 0.1KB/sec refers only to usage of THIS addon |
| 03:37.58 | Shirik | nah that's the report from fubar |
| 03:38.02 | Nom- | It makes it look cheaper than it is |
| 03:38.15 | Shirik | ok so, I have a table at the beginning |
| 03:38.20 | Shirik | RDXM.BattleRecorder.Queue = {} |
| 03:38.27 | Shirik | and... here let me show you the code |
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| 03:39.58 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/20559 |
| 03:40.18 | Shirik | I'm literally seeing no increase memory |
| 03:40.48 | Shirik | the idle memory increase is identical to during combat |
| 03:41.09 | JoshBorke | Iriel: i'd expect the strings generated for combat would be special, wouldn't they? |
| 03:41.26 | JoshBorke | otherwise that's an enormous amount of strings generated during raid encounters |
| 03:41.33 | Iriel | They can't be special |
| 03:41.49 | Shirik | the only alternative is that I'm not actually capturing any information :P |
| 03:41.53 | Shirik | But I can check that real quick |
| 03:42.00 | Iriel | They're just strings, unless blizzard completely massacred the string implementation |
| 03:42.25 | Shirik | nope, there's defintely currently 25k elements in the queue |
| 03:42.35 | Shirik | which means 12k events |
| 03:42.45 | Iriel | Shirik: YOUR code would be adding very little, an average of about 24 bytes per event |
| 03:43.06 | Iriel | Shirik: It's the TOTAL memory increase during combat (0.1K/sec) which seemed suspiciously low |
| 03:43.16 | Shirik | oh crap |
| 03:43.18 | Shirik | I totally read that wrong |
| 03:43.19 | Iriel | Unless you've simply reached the point where all of the messages have been seen before |
| 03:43.20 | Shirik | rofl |
| 03:43.24 | Shirik | That number is MB |
| 03:43.41 | JoshBorke | gj |
| 03:43.49 | Shirik | try maybe 10KB/s ... maybe a little less |
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| 03:43.54 | Shirik | It's hard to tell I'm just watching the total |
| 03:43.59 | Iriel | The downside of your code, of course, is that none of the messages can be GC'ed |
| 03:44.13 | Iriel | but memory is cheap 8-) |
| 03:44.15 | ckknight | I'll GC you |
| 03:44.32 | Shirik | well |
| 03:44.33 | JoshBorke | thanks for that witty and completely relevant remark ckknight :-) |
| 03:44.45 | Shirik | normally you won't be running this constant |
| 03:44.55 | Shirik | the queue should be nowhere as large as it is right now |
| 03:45.15 | Shirik | I'm just stress testing it :P |
| 03:45.36 | Iriel | Normally do you have the analyzer running as you play? |
| 03:46.04 | JoshBorke | i think it would normal reconcile everytime you go out of combat |
| 03:46.12 | JoshBorke | but he hasn't implemented that feature completely yet :-D |
| 03:46.13 | Shirik | every time the encounter stops |
| 03:46.21 | Iriel | Any reason why you wait? |
| 03:46.34 | Shirik | I don't really know how to describe this without explaining all of RDX but |
| 03:46.51 | Shirik | Well, if you're in say a 40 man raid |
| 03:46.55 | Shirik | that's a hell of a lot of parsing to do |
| 03:46.57 | Iriel | You could say 'it doesn't make sense to reconcile until you're done' |
| 03:47.00 | Shirik | while trying to kill a boss |
| 03:47.14 | Iriel | Yeah, but the marvelous adaptive scheduler should be able to handle that, right? |
| 03:47.22 | JoshBorke | i think the idea is during combat memory is cheap and CPU is expensive but outside of combat CPU becomes less expensive |
| 03:47.25 | Shirik | well, that's not scheduled ;) |
| 03:47.30 | Shirik | it's coroutine.resume() that's being scheduled here |
| 03:47.42 | Shirik | if I wanted to parse it in realtime then I'd have to parse it immediately, not defer it |
| 03:47.45 | Iriel | Does reconciliation involve inter-player messaging? |
| 03:47.49 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:47.52 | Shirik | you're saying |
| 03:47.58 | Shirik | why not process the queue ... during the fight |
| 03:48.02 | Shirik | but still queue everything |
| 03:48.11 | Iriel | Yes, that's exactly what i'm saying |
| 03:48.12 | JoshBorke | yea, why not do that? |
| 03:48.16 | Shirik | that's probably a good idea |
| 03:48.26 | Shirik | and yes the adaptive scheduler could handle that |
| 03:48.47 | Iriel | You could even just make your OnUpdate smart enough to not even think of resuming if the framerate is less than some threshold then you avoid adding pain to pain |
| 03:48.58 | Mikma | ~borked |
| 03:49.12 | purl | [borked] to have totally ****ed something up. Usually by doing something stupid. Specifically used to describe technology that is broken. The word is in reference to Robert Bork, a nominee to the Supreme Court who, despite being very qualified was not appointed to the court due to partisan reasons. |
| 03:49.31 | Shirik | yeah I think I will do that |
| 03:49.38 | Iriel | It may not help much, but it MIGHT keep memory usage down during extended combat situations |
| 03:49.39 | Shirik | thanks for the advice :) |
| 03:49.42 | Shirik | it's true |
| 03:49.46 | Shirik | and |
| 03:49.54 | Shirik | it wouldn't take a year to process if you've been recording for an hour |
| 03:49.59 | Shirik | (obvious overestimate but yeah) |
| 03:50.34 | Shirik | cause hopefully some of it would have been handled |
| 03:54.27 | Tem | oh HOT |
| 03:54.33 | Tem | the portal in the mage tower doesn't lag anymore |
| 03:55.16 | Tem | but you can't blink through it anymore |
| 03:55.18 | Tem | :( |
| 03:55.19 | Gngsk | interesting |
| 03:55.32 | Gngsk | ever come out of it floating? |
| 03:55.46 | Gngsk | I think that's the first thing I ever frapsed, was my mage gnome floating in front of that portal |
| 03:56.35 | Tem | hmm |
| 03:56.42 | Tem | it seems to place you forward no matter what |
| 03:57.14 | JoshBorke | nn all |
| 03:57.17 | Tem | so if you back into it and continue moving back, you'll pop between them over and over |
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| 04:30.45 | Shirik | 36k elements in queue ^^ |
| 04:30.48 | Shirik | now to see how well it goes :P |
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| 04:36.14 | Shirik | hm only 5 minutes to parse, not bad |
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| 04:59.08 | Corrodias | is there a way to make perfectraid simulate having some people? |
| 05:00.20 | JunkHead-Work | Sounds kinda like my problem with AG_UF. |
| 05:10.33 | Gngsk | Corrodias, queue AV! |
| 05:10.41 | Shirik | Corrodias: What do you mean? |
| 05:10.42 | Corrodias | i mean i'm not in a raid and i want to configure praid without idling in a battleground |
| 05:10.43 | Corrodias | and see what it looks like during this |
| 05:10.48 | Shirik | ah |
| 05:10.53 | Shirik | like how DuF did |
| 05:10.53 | chronx | is there any eh...tutorials on how to make wow addons? |
| 05:10.58 | Shirik | chronx: There are, but I strongly recommend reading other addons' code to learn |
| 05:10.59 | Shirik | I learned a lot more that way than I did trying to make sense of tutorials |
| 05:10.59 | chronx | eh.. lua's syntax is rather....weird |
| 05:10.59 | Shirik | you'll find these sites helpful too: |
| 05:10.59 | Shirik | http://wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs http://wowwiki.com/API http://wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 05:11.05 | Corrodias | lua does things certain ways just to be different from other languages for difference's sake |
| 05:11.05 | Shirik | Well, then you need a tutorial on Lua eh? |
| 05:11.06 | Shirik | not how to write addons |
| 05:11.06 | Shirik | PiL is what you want |
| 05:11.06 | Shirik | ~pil |
| 05:19.18 | purl | well, pil is Programming in Lua, available as both a paperback book and an online version of the same book available at http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 05:19.18 | chronx | its kinda like macromedias actionscript.. but the SlashCmdList array thing is extremely odd imo |
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| 05:19.54 | Shirik | purl doesn't have a PiL entry? |
| 05:20.30 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:20.30 | Shirik | we shall fix that |
| 05:20.30 | chronx | ~help |
| 05:20.31 | chronx | :( |
| 05:20.31 | chronx | is there any lua compilers or is it fully interpretted? |
| 05:20.31 | Corrodias | there are, but for WoW you can't use a compiler |
| 05:20.32 | chronx | right |
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| 05:20.32 | Shirik | purl, pil is <reply> Programming in Lua by Roberto Ierusalimschy is a great tool for beginning and experienced Lua programmers. The 5.0 version is available at http://www.lua.org/pil/ or you can get the latest, 5.1 version in print from your local bookstore. |
| 05:20.55 | purl | ...but pil is already something else... |
| 05:20.55 | Shirik | oops |
| 05:20.56 | Shirik | purl, ping |
| 05:21.14 | purl | pong |
| 05:21.14 | Shirik | ok purl's dead |
| 05:21.14 | chronx | haah |
| 05:21.14 | Shirik | anyway |
| 05:21.14 | Shirik | http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 05:21.14 | Shirik | great tool |
| 05:21.14 | chronx | what does lua stand for? |
| 05:21.14 | Shirik | covers everything from the basics to the most fun aspects of lua (coroutines, metatables, GC specifics) |
| 05:21.14 | Shirik | and continues into how to implement OOP, etc. |
| 05:21.15 | Seerah | http://lua-users.org/ |
| 05:21.15 | Seerah | :P shirik |
| 05:21.15 | Seerah | I missed you linking it :( |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | gg on posting a non-working link Seerah :P |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | seems their server is down :)( |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | :( * |
| 05:21.15 | Seerah | I just clicked it! |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | doesn't work for me :/ |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at lua-users.org." |
| 05:21.15 | Seerah | I use firefox |
| 05:21.15 | Shirik | Reply from 62.197.50.11: Destination host unreachable. |
| 05:21.15 | Seerah | yep, the site is working perfectly fine for me :P |
| 05:21.15 | Karrion | http://lua-users.org/ is working for me, too |
| 05:21.16 | Seerah | gg on having a broken computer, Shirik ;) |
| 05:21.16 | Shirik | 11 111 ms 113 ms 112 ms ge0-101-0.agg1.thdo.lnc.net [62.197.50.11] |
| 05:21.16 | Shirik | 12 ge0-101-0.agg1.thdo.lnc.net [62.197.50.11] reports: Destination host unreachable. |
| 05:21.16 | Karrion | and doesn't resolve to 62.197.50.11... |
| 05:21.16 | Shirik | must be a routing thing :( |
| 05:21.16 | Shirik | no it doesn't |
| 05:21.16 | pastamancer | chronx: lua is portugese for 'moon' |
| 05:21.16 | Karrion | # host lua-users.org |
| 05:21.16 | Karrion | lua-users.org has address 87.237.62.181 |
| 05:21.16 | Shirik | Tracing route to lua-users.org [62.197.40.9] |
| 05:21.17 | Shirik | o.o |
| 05:21.17 | Shirik | wow |
| 05:21.17 | Seerah | you've been hijacked :) |
| 05:21.17 | Shirik | there's the proble,m |
| 05:21.17 | Shirik | check this out: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ispdns.ch?name=lua-users.org&type=A |
| 05:21.17 | Shirik | they must have changed IPs recently |
| 05:21.18 | Shirik | YEs |
| 05:21.18 | Seerah | lol - it's going around the world |
| 05:21.18 | Shirik | thank you for that incredibly delayed response purl |
| 05:21.27 | Shirik | my ISP probably just has the old IP cached |
| 05:21.28 | Seerah | perhaps |
| 05:21.28 | Shirik | yes purl thank you >.> |
| 05:21.28 | Shirik | ... |
| 05:25.57 | Seerah | remember, you may not abuse the bots, but they may abuse you ;) |
| 05:25.57 | Corrodias | decursive 2.0 doesn't seem to have a way to move the micro buttons frame, so i had to dig out the widget API and add another two lines to my "on player entering world" script to move it |
| 05:26.04 | Corrodias | knowing just a little about addons helps with customization like this |
| 05:26.19 | Shirik|Shower | it does :) |
| 05:26.19 | Seerah | there is a little tab over the far left MUF. hold alt while dragging the tab |
| 05:26.22 | Shirik|Shower | And then you slowly do more and more |
| 05:26.25 | Nom- | mmm wtb pavlova |
| 05:26.26 | Nom- | :D |
| 05:26.27 | Shirik|Shower | then you write an addon |
| 05:26.29 | Corrodias | i see no tab |
| 05:26.30 | Shirik|Shower | then a package |
| 05:26.32 | Shirik|Shower | then an entire UI |
| 05:26.41 | Shirik|Shower | then you're like "wow" |
| 05:26.46 | Seerah | it's only visible when you hover over it |
| 05:26.53 | Corrodias | huh, you're correct |
| 05:27.00 | Seerah | it's *over* the far left muf |
| 05:27.21 | Seerah | are you chatting from within the shower? :P |
| 05:27.24 | Corrodias | do you know how it saves its position? |
| 05:27.50 | Seerah | not entirely, perhaps in layout-cache? |
| 05:27.59 | Seerah | mine only moves when I move it |
| 05:28.02 | Corrodias | lazy people use layout-cache >:o |
| 05:28.10 | Seerah | I said I didn't know :P |
| 05:28.21 | Corrodias | like xperl's author. such a nice addon, but he/she can't be bothered to write in some positioning variables? |
| 05:28.59 | Corrodias | thanks for telling me. i can access the options without slash commands now! yay |
| 05:29.31 | Seerah | hehe |
| 05:29.38 | Seerah | that was added recently |
| 05:29.47 | Seerah | the right-click menu on the anchor |
| 05:30.07 | Seerah | There's also a FuBar icon now :) |
| 05:31.29 | Corrodias | i must not have noticed |
| 05:31.40 | Corrodias | well, my UI has just improved by three degrees. probably. |
| 05:32.48 | Corrodias | enemycastingbar for instance respawn timers, a new portals menu button that's smaller than the frame of the addon i was using for it before, and some decursing buttons |
| 05:32.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 05:33.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love how all my ace addons have no public versions |
| 05:33.06 | Corrodias | what the hell is my browser doing? it's like it's freaking out |
| 05:33.07 | Tem | I HATE layout-cache |
| 05:33.13 | Tem | I don't load addons all the time |
| 05:33.18 | Tem | so when I disable them |
| 05:33.21 | Tem | and turn em back on |
| 05:33.25 | Tem | they forgot where they belong |
| 05:33.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | energywatch is the only one i have that still uses it |
| 05:33.51 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies2: are you using WAU 1.7? |
| 05:34.23 | Corrodias | i should find the xperl unit frames author and... think at him, very unpleasantly |
| 05:35.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes Seerah |
| 05:36.21 | Seerah | someone else on wowace was complaining about that too... I don't recall if there was ever a solution |
| 05:36.48 | Seerah | off to sleep! |
| 05:38.45 | JunkHead-Work | Ooh wow. |
| 05:38.51 | JunkHead-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100510812&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 05:40.59 | Nom- | lol i love this HD-DVD DRM stuff |
| 05:41.34 | Nom- | It's gone from being a a topic covered by a handful of sites to the #1 topic on the net today |
| 05:42.00 | Corrodias | you've seen that too, eh |
| 05:42.07 | Nom- | Yeah |
| 05:42.18 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.21 | Nom- | everywhere |
| 05:42.39 | Nom- | Looks like digg is actually down |
| 05:42.44 | Nom- | Effectively DOS's |
| 05:42.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | the "blogosphere" has been more interesting than it has since its formation |
| 05:42.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | today |
| 05:43.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | watching all the drama bombs explode |
| 05:43.24 | Corrodias | i have no idea what digg is |
| 05:43.44 | Nom- | Yeah, and it all started with several web sites complying with takedown orders for content relating to the HD-DVD encryption |
| 05:43.52 | Corrodias | all i know now is that people keep posting a string there that is somehow related to hd-dvd's encryption |
| 05:43.58 | Nom- | Corrodias: It's a social link site type thing |
| 05:44.16 | Nom- | Corrodias: You post a link and other people digg it (basically rate it) |
| 05:44.24 | Nom- | So you get popular links on the front page etc |
| 05:45.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://labs.digg.com/swarm/?upcoming |
| 05:45.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | is pretty much hilarious |
| 05:45.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially with yakkety sax |
| 05:45.51 | Corrodias | with what? |
| 05:46.21 | Corrodias | i see blank blakness with text at the bottom |
| 05:46.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, looks nuked for now |
| 05:46.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but queue this up |
| 05:46.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://bennyclone.ytmnd.com/ for when it returns |
| 05:48.53 | Corrodias | is it just me or is there something wrong with the audio? seems to be skipping. |
| 05:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | not for me |
| 05:50.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | quicktime does it sometimes to me |
| 05:50.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | try refreshing |
| 05:50.59 | Corrodias | well, anyway, that reminds me |
| 05:51.21 | Corrodias | i need to check my audio codecs for what's playing mp3's... |
| 05:55.11 | Tierrie | hey if i can't log into wow, what folder should i delete |
| 05:55.16 | Tierrie | or rename |
| 05:55.20 | Corrodias | World of Warcraft |
| 05:55.24 | Tierrie | :( |
| 05:55.37 | chuckg | Anyone know the hit cap for PVP? |
| 05:55.38 | chuckg | 4%? |
| 05:55.40 | Tierrie | it is stuck at the loading screen :( |
| 05:55.48 | Corrodias | i'd recommend disabling some addons |
| 05:55.54 | Tierrie | its all disabled |
| 05:56.01 | Corrodias | otherwise, the character's folder under your wtf/account/etc |
| 05:56.25 | Corrodias | then the accoun folder (leaving only config.wtf in its proper spot) |
| 05:56.29 | Corrodias | *account |
| 05:57.15 | Tierrie | renamed WTf to WTF.bak, Interface and Cache as well |
| 05:57.31 | Tierrie | maybe i will reboot |
| 05:57.32 | Tierrie | brb |
| 05:57.47 | Corrodias | if you still can't login, it's probably something you'll have to talk to a GM about. is it all characters or only one? |
| 05:57.52 | Corrodias | or... a few |
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| 06:09.28 | chronx | purl, ping |
| 06:11.11 | purl | pong |
| 06:11.12 | chronx | :| i fail |
| 06:11.12 | chronx | g'night |
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| 06:25.03 | Nom- | omg bad idea to read funny web comics while drinking flavoured milk |
| 06:32.12 | Elkano | y? are you now having a flavoured milk flavoured pc? |
| 06:33.19 | Nom- | mouthful of milk + funny comic = ? |
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| 06:37.28 | Gngsk | = wet monitor |
| 06:39.18 | Nom- | http://bash.org/?758379 <-- lol that's good if it's real |
| 06:39.34 | Nom- | Gngsk: Yeah, or at least milk coming out of nodse :P |
| 06:39.38 | Nom- | *nose |
| 06:44.31 | Elkano | well, flavoured milk flavoured pc ^^ |
| 06:58.41 | Shirik | so... I now have two of the same quest >.> |
| 07:07.20 | Nom- | http://bash.org/?349567 |
| 07:07.25 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:07.51 | Nom- | I've seen most of them before, but it's like...how does that shit happen? lol |
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| 07:10.08 | [Black_WolF]_WoW | Hello children!!! |
| 07:10.48 | [Black_WolF]_WoW | Hello people !!! |
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| 07:49.40 | AnduinLothar | anyone have a date() string parser? |
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| 08:25.39 | Bleeter | AnduinLothar: *guess* GEM might have something |
| 08:26.02 | Bleeter | it's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head that involves dates, etc. etc. |
| 08:26.12 | Bleeter | oh of course there's GC too |
| 08:27.45 | AnduinLothar | GC? |
| 08:30.10 | wobin | GuildCalendar? |
| 08:30.43 | EArmbrust | groupcalendar? |
| 08:30.57 | nevcairiel | something like that |
| 08:31.18 | AnduinLothar | oh nm |
| 08:31.20 | AnduinLothar | date("*t") |
| 08:31.26 | AnduinLothar | returns a table |
| 08:31.41 | AnduinLothar | which is what GEM uses |
| 08:31.42 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 08:33.49 | EArmbrust | hmm, so i made an installer for my guild which downloads and installs all of the required mods, with options to install additional "suggested" mods...works really well. <3 nsis |
| 08:34.04 | AnduinLothar | nsis? |
| 08:34.14 | EArmbrust | nullsoft installer system |
| 08:34.28 | EArmbrust | write a script, use the compiler, get a standalone exe :) |
| 08:36.43 | EArmbrust | http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/298/cmpoptionsqk7.jpg |
| 08:36.52 | EArmbrust | that's how it looks when it's done |
| 08:39.06 | Bleeter | AnduinLothar: wow, so my wild guess helped? I'm stunned! :D |
| 08:39.22 | EArmbrust | hehe |
| 08:40.51 | EArmbrust | there doesn't happen to be a dropdown widget, does there? i've browsed the api functions a few times..but i could have overlooked it |
| 08:41.30 | Bleeter | from memory, there isn't |
| 08:41.41 | Bleeter | tho, don't quote me on that.. actually.. hmm, maybe there is |
| 08:41.44 | AnduinLothar | there is |
| 08:42.03 | AnduinLothar | how much do you want? |
| 08:42.03 | Bleeter | I'm just confused with some other widget one has to construct by hand ;) |
| 08:44.04 | AnduinLothar | http://wowi.pastey.net/20714 http://wowi.pastey.net/20715 |
| 08:44.28 | AnduinLothar | http://wowi.pastey.net/20715?lang=xml might help |
| 08:44.56 | AnduinLothar | however you don't actually need the xml, there's a way to get around it |
| 08:45.46 | AnduinLothar | but anyway the code is in UIDropDownMenu |
| 08:48.34 | AnduinLothar | here's the no-frame hack: http://wowi.pastey.net/20717 |
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| 09:22.22 | Kaso | Is whisper throllting on ptr yet? |
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| 10:09.02 | BAC9I | hello |
| 10:09.25 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.47 | BAC9I | no |
| 10:09.50 | [Ammo] | like he did on #wowace |
| 10:10.04 | BAC9I | I from russia |
| 10:10.05 | Kaso | ^_- |
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| 10:11.16 | BAC9I | Ammo I from russia you understand me? |
| 10:13.05 | BAC9I | I live on north beside me presently on street -40 degrees |
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| 10:19.27 | BAC9I | ass boughs faggot |
| 10:19.33 | BAC9I | fgz |
| 10:19.34 | BAC9I | f |
| 10:19.34 | BAC9I | d |
| 10:19.35 | BAC9I | g |
| 10:19.35 | BAC9I | d |
| 10:19.35 | BAC9I | f |
| 10:19.37 | BAC9I | fg |
| 10:19.37 | BAC9I | f |
| 10:19.48 | Kaso | What a strange man |
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| 10:26.00 | [Ammo] | said to kickban him :p |
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| 10:33.06 | Elkano | RU... ever played DotA with them? |
| 10:33.35 | nevcairiel | I havent played DotA with anyone |
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| 12:18.13 | zenzelezz | I wonder if my linux box got some file/filesystem corruption the other day when I crashed it... at first Firefox wouldn't start until I reinstalled it, then updatedb hung the computer again |
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| 13:18.17 | Cairenn|afk | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 13:18.19 | purl | ACTION hugs JoshBorke |
| 13:18.49 | JoshBorke | morning Cair :) |
| 13:18.55 | Cairenn|afk | hey JoshBorke :) |
| 13:18.55 | Legorol | wow you are quick this morning, Cairenn|afk |
| 13:19.02 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
| 13:19.05 | JoshBorke | *yawn* |
| 13:19.06 | Legorol | you also have |afk |
| 13:19.13 | Cairenn|afk | I know |
| 13:19.16 | JoshBorke | morning Legorol |
| 13:19.16 | Legorol | ah ok |
| 13:19.21 | Cairenn|afk | considering going back to bed |
| 13:19.22 | Legorol | i thought your client is not showing it again ;-) |
| 13:19.34 | zenzelezz | I think in her case it just means Away From Kalimdor |
| 13:19.47 | JoshBorke | any goings on atm? |
| 13:20.34 | Cairenn|afk | oh, it still doesn't show it, so thank you :) I just did happen to be aware that it was on this morning and was just leaving it for now |
| 13:20.34 | Cairenn|afk | zenzelezz: *grin* |
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| 13:21.37 | Cairenn|afk | oh look! it's a Beladona! |
| 13:21.40 | JoshBorke | BELA! |
| 13:21.45 | Cairenn|afk | folks been looking for you Bela |
| 13:22.02 | zenzelezz | you sure took a long time getting home |
| 13:22.08 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 13:22.38 | Kirkburn|afk | A little bit of news, WoWWiki will be moving to Wikia! http://tinyurl.com/yt836t |
| 13:23.08 | zenzelezz | will we notice any difference? |
| 13:23.19 | Beladona | hi |
| 13:23.35 | Beladona | I figured they might be, so thats why I logged on |
| 13:23.38 | Beladona | =P |
| 13:23.39 | Kirkburn|afk | zenzelezz, apart from improved servers, etc, not really |
| 13:24.09 | zenzelezz | oh, it's a server thing; thought it was a different wiki software |
| 13:24.12 | Cairenn|afk | no need to change our bookmarks or anything though, right? |
| 13:24.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope |
| 13:24.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Won't be a for a few weeks |
| 13:24.24 | zenzelezz | and here I was hoping I would finally not have to scroll down to find the search box |
| 13:24.28 | Beladona | wikia? |
| 13:24.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, the site will get improvements, for sure |
| 13:24.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Wikia, it's like the official hosting service for wikis |
| 13:25.25 | JoshBorke | i can't get my characters :-) |
| 13:25.30 | JoshBorke | erm :_( |
| 13:25.53 | Beladona | so who was looking for me? |
| 13:26.02 | Kirkburn|afk | "When Jimmy Wales and Gil Penchina offered to let us move the wiki to Wikia" <-- Jimbo is the wikipedia founder, Gil is CEO of wikia |
| 13:26.13 | Beladona | and should it make me want to enter the witness protection program? |
| 13:27.34 | JoshBorke | Beladona: me, and yes :-P |
| 13:27.47 | JoshBorke | i posted a bug on your google code page |
| 13:28.37 | Beladona | lol |
| 13:28.38 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn|afk: http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/search.jpg :-p ("get a bigger resolution", I know) |
| 13:28.47 | Beladona | FingerTip is undergoing an overhaul |
| 13:28.51 | Beladona | thats why it isn't there |
| 13:28.54 | Kirkburn|afk | lol zenzelezz |
| 13:29.00 | Beladona | I didn't repost it when last I refreshed my svn |
| 13:37.20 | JoshBorke | i saw :-) that's why i posted the bug report, just to keep you in the loop :-) |
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| 13:50.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Regarding the wiki, one thing we /may/ do is have UI stuff on a subdomain |
| 13:50.52 | Kirkburn|afk | Essentially having it as a semi-separate wiki |
| 13:52.05 | zenzelezz | dev.wowwiki.com? |
| 13:53.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, ui. I would have though |
| 13:53.10 | Kirkburn|afk | t |
| 13:53.50 | zenzelezz | you may be right, I suppose some people actually don't code \o/ |
| 13:54.00 | Kirkburn|afk | In any case, the news is at - http://tinyurl.com/yt836t - so if people want to add their thoughts, do so there :) |
| 13:54.12 | zenzelezz | whatever the subdomain, being able to search all except or only in UI would be nice |
| 13:54.22 | krka | yeah but those people shouldn't be allowed on the interwob anyway |
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| 14:01.26 | sysrage | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1574983242707976464 |
| 14:10.11 | cogwheel | ummm |
| 14:11.12 | sysrage | yes, it rocks. i know |
| 14:12.01 | cogwheel | I can't show that to my wife... She'd be all like "OMG! Why is he just standing there! You're supposed to do........" |
| 14:12.13 | sysrage | heh |
| 14:12.45 | sysrage | that's what's so good about it. even if you know nothing about fighting of any sort, you know it's fake as all hell |
| 14:12.58 | cogwheel | I was in a fight scene like that... |
| 14:13.03 | Gngsk | "Yeah, see ya!" |
| 14:13.04 | cogwheel | ended with a plastic axe in my head >< |
| 14:17.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Notepad++ 4.1 is out |
| 14:19.53 | Kirkburn|afk | (changelog @ http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=39960) |
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| 15:12.58 | Industrial | Can undead ride chicken mounts? |
| 15:13.26 | Industrial | hmm, what about kodos |
| 15:13.34 | Industrial | at 40, that is. |
| 15:13.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Aww, I thought you meant at 20 |
| 15:14.05 | nevcairiel | if you can get the reputation |
| 15:14.06 | nevcairiel | sure you can :P |
| 15:14.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, of course |
| 15:14.30 | Industrial | what standing do i need? |
| 15:14.36 | JoshBorke | exalted |
| 15:14.37 | nevcairiel | exalted |
| 15:14.45 | Industrial | >_o |
| 15:14.50 | nevcairiel | pretty much impossible at 40 |
| 15:14.53 | Industrial | im friendly with most and honored with UC, lmao. |
| 15:15.16 | zenzelezz | shame you didn't want a wolf, Orgrimmar is easy |
| 15:15.32 | Industrial | no :( i want a chicken or kodo |
| 15:16.24 | nevcairiel | you will never ever have a chicken |
| 15:16.32 | nevcairiel | i forbid you. |
| 15:16.35 | nevcairiel | its plain ugly |
| 15:16.35 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:16.48 | Industrial | I like it better then a dead horse |
| 15:16.57 | Industrial | undead, same difference |
| 15:17.00 | nevcairiel | get a raptor |
| 15:17.04 | nevcairiel | i would kill for one |
| 15:17.06 | nevcairiel | but i am alliance |
| 15:17.09 | nevcairiel | and Zg didnt like me |
| 15:17.40 | Industrial | raptor. hm. |
| 15:18.45 | JoshBorke | hm, in linux, how do i force the permissions on a folder to be inherited by any files with the folder? |
| 15:19.19 | Industrial | chmod -R |
| 15:19.24 | Industrial | or something |
| 15:19.24 | Industrial | :p |
| 15:19.34 | JoshBorke | for any newly created file also |
| 15:20.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey, exalted at 40 isn't that hard |
| 15:20.13 | pastamancer | you can setuid or setgid a folder, but you can't force the mode on files created within it |
| 15:20.19 | Industrial | hm, dunno about that |
| 15:20.29 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm a third of the way through revered with SW on a 27 draenei |
| 15:20.35 | zenzelezz | depends who it's with Kirk |
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| 15:20.53 | Industrial | Kirkburn|afk: im 36 and friendly with all but UC, honored with UC :P |
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| 15:21.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Bloody hell, do you even do any quests? :) |
| 15:21.22 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid#setuid_on_directories |
| 15:21.27 | Industrial | a little of everything |
| 15:21.28 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:21.45 | Industrial | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Grim+Batol&n=Industrial |
| 15:21.49 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: yea, i just decided to put both users in teh same group |
| 15:27.38 | cogwheel|work | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Shadowsong&n=Coglight |
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| 15:30.31 | Industrial | draenei/be get a hell of a lot more rep tho in the 1-20 areas |
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| 15:42.49 | Cide | cogwheel|work: hi? :P |
| 15:44.27 | cogwheel|work | >>> "\73\32\108\111\118\101\32\121\111\117\114\32\97\100\100\111\110\115" |
| 15:44.27 | Cide | cogwheel|work: "I love your addons" |
| 15:44.36 | cogwheel|work | why thank you :) |
| 15:44.38 | Thunder_Child1 | heh |
| 15:44.46 | zenzelezz | he used "", sounds like he's being sarcastic |
| 15:44.48 | Thunder_Child1 | shameless abuse of a bot |
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| 15:47.36 | cogwheel|work | Cide: I assume the bot can't save upvalues for functions in SavedVariables? |
| 15:47.52 | Cide | no, that's a limitation of string.dump |
| 15:48.19 | Cide | iirc |
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| 15:54.59 | Kaso | pastamancer: part of me hopes this guy's signature isn't a joke. |
| 15:55.01 | Kaso | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285170907&sid=1 |
| 15:56.13 | Kaso | wtf |
| 15:56.24 | Kaso | why did mIRC change "man" to pastamancer >.< |
| 15:57.25 | zenzelezz | that's one reason I only use interactive nick completion |
| 15:57.39 | Kaso | what for the random matches it gives ? |
| 15:58.49 | zenzelezz | interactive as in hitting tab; as opposed to "hey, I see you're sending a message, let me try to match this word against the userlist" |
| 15:59.05 | Kaso | i getcha |
| 15:59.18 | Kaso | i usually use xchat but im on my windows pc atm so im stuck with mirc |
| 15:59.23 | Kaso | not so sure how this works tbh |
| 15:59.37 | zenzelezz | why don't you download the Windows build of X-Chat then? |
| 15:59.57 | Cide | I use xchat on windows :) |
| 15:59.57 | Kaso | i did, but it isnt freeware, so it's trial has run out |
| 16:00.10 | Cide | http://www.silverex.org/news/ |
| 16:00.10 | zenzelezz | there are free ones, just not from the official site |
| 16:00.15 | Kaso | ooh! |
| 16:00.17 | Kaso | lovely |
| 16:00.28 | Kaso | thanks! |
| 16:01.54 | Kaso | awesome |
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| 16:01.59 | Cairenn|afk | hahaha |
| 16:02.00 | Cairenn|afk | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/online_communities.png |
| 16:03.16 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 16:03.37 | Kaso_ | thats pretty accurate i think |
| 16:04.23 | cogwheel|work | Haha! Stallman's Airship... |
| 16:04.25 | Kaso_ | I like google's volcano fortress best |
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| 16:07.07 | EArmbrust | i like how there's just randomly "soviet russia" |
| 16:11.51 | cogwheel|work | is Usenet a hidden underwater city or something? |
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| 16:13.47 | EArmbrust | apparently it's the lost city of usenet |
| 16:14.14 | EArmbrust | as opposed to te lost art that most usenet denizens swear it is :P |
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| 16:48.39 | Kaso | Woah inspect distance is upto 30yrds? |
| 16:49.28 | EArmbrust | o.0 |
| 16:49.55 | Maldivia | what... in new PTR? |
| 16:51.53 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 16:52.02 | Kaso | thats awesome |
| 16:52.10 | JoshBorke | no longer humping people's legs to inspect them |
| 16:53.57 | Kaso | ive no idea why the "fixed" inspect, there was nothing wrong with unlimited range |
| 16:54.48 | Maldivia | the client had the info anyway, so why limit the info-stream to the user |
| 16:55.35 | Maldivia | Kaso, are you on the PTR right now ? |
| 16:55.49 | Kaso | I am not, just downloaded latest patch |
| 16:56.17 | Maldivia | ok, just wanted you to check, if the un-nerfed the tailoring sets again, or not |
| 16:56.56 | Maldivia | a lot of people got upset that they nerfed the 3 tailoring sets, so Blizzard caved :) |
| 16:58.47 | zenzelezz | nerfed/unnerfed? What did they (or did they intend to) change? |
| 16:59.22 | Maldivia | for instance, frozen shadowweave was changed, it lost around 40 damage, but got int instead |
| 16:59.36 | Maldivia | apparently, they caved, and changed it back, so the set stays as it is right now |
| 16:59.46 | Kaso | It really saddens me that they caved |
| 16:59.49 | Kaso | the nerf was needed |
| 17:00.04 | Kaydeethree | so why not buff raid gear instead? |
| 17:00.25 | Kaso | because theyd have to change all raid drops to equivilant item levels |
| 17:00.29 | JoshBorke | because it would have required buffing ALL raid gear which then would have required retuning other gear |
| 17:00.30 | Kaso | so they say |
| 17:00.35 | Kaydeethree | or at least have a +dmg-heavy set instead of stats-heavy |
| 17:00.51 | Kaso | when solo-grindable epics are as powerful as tier 5 raid gear, it is overpowered |
| 17:00.55 | JoshBorke | i agree with kaso, the nerf was and still is needed |
| 17:01.05 | Maldivia | the problem is, the tailor sets are damage/healing heavy, where as the tier-sets are more evenly spread out over various stayts |
| 17:01.48 | zenzelezz | my only decent crafted gear is resistance gear |
| 17:01.50 | Kaydeethree | which is why casters prefer it over t4/t5, I don't want stats, I want damage. that's the whole reason I rolled a mage |
| 17:02.43 | Kaso | You know what else needs a nerf |
| 17:02.47 | Kaso | Six Demon bag! |
| 17:02.50 | cogwheel|work | my dart gun |
| 17:02.51 | Maldivia | the sets are 3 slots - we have a lot of other slots to get the stats needed, even though we don't really need much stats |
| 17:02.54 | Kaso | Just got a 1400 fireball |
| 17:03.11 | Maldivia | demon bag still uses +dmg gear ? |
| 17:03.15 | Kaso | yah |
| 17:03.16 | Kaso | 100% |
| 17:03.20 | Kaso | 3min cooldown :> |
| 17:03.21 | Kaso | so awesome |
| 17:03.33 | Maldivia | thought they fixed it together with the other trinkets? |
| 17:03.46 | Kaso | it does share cooldown with other trinkets |
| 17:04.09 | Maldivia | I remember when the fire-thorns trinket from ragnaros, had +100% dmg gear :) |
| 17:04.12 | Kaso | but still if you have a reasonable amount of passive +dmg it hits hard |
| 17:04.23 | Maldivia | canT remember it's name |
| 17:04.36 | Kaso | Essence of pure disenchant |
| 17:04.41 | Kaso | (flame) |
| 17:04.47 | Kaso | i think thats it |
| 17:05.07 | Maldivia | It was really fun when it has 100% dmg, then they nerfed it... |
| 17:05.22 | Maldivia | and it was really fun, when it could proc Impact... they nerfed that aswell |
| 17:05.24 | zenzelezz | I didn't know Ragnaros was a vendor :-o |
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| 17:10.25 | Shirik | why do people even play the game? |
| 17:11.22 | Kaso | Do you remeber "Hate me" |
| 17:11.34 | Kaso | is was an addon that basically made a "click to tank" button |
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| 17:12.00 | Maldivia | what was the name of the rogue version? |
| 17:12.06 | Shirik | no never heard of it |
| 17:12.16 | Shirik | but I just don't understand why people want to just sit behind a computer |
| 17:12.19 | Shirik | and push one button all day |
| 17:12.25 | Shirik | where's the fun in that? |
| 17:12.47 | Shirik | Like my priest, I like having to actually figure out what I'm going to do, especially when I have to pick who gets to die becuase I can't heal everyone in time :P |
| 17:13.24 | Kaso | Lazy Rogue or something along those lines maldivia |
| 17:13.25 | Maldivia | Shirik: you mean raiding as a mage pre BC? frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt ? (and then later, respec fire, and using fireball instead) |
| 17:13.54 | Shirik | is that not still true? :P |
| 17:14.00 | Shadowed | Thats easy Kaso |
| 17:14.07 | Shadowed | They want epics but can't tank without help |
| 17:14.08 | Kaydeethree | it's true unless I'm tanking the maulgar mage |
| 17:14.12 | Maldivia | Kaso: yeah, think something like that |
| 17:15.03 | Maldivia | the problem with a lot of warriors, is that they choose that class, simply because they don't have the brains to play any other class, not realising that they actually have to think to play that class aswell |
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| 17:15.31 | Shirik | Well, I'm slowly narrowing down the tanks I'll group with |
| 17:15.42 | Shirik | because I hate tanks that stick on one target, so I get healing aggro on the other three |
| 17:15.46 | Shirik | then they get mad when they don't get heals |
| 17:15.49 | Maldivia | no shit! |
| 17:15.52 | cogwheel|work | I love playing a warrior |
| 17:15.58 | cogwheel|work | but yeah... that's the reason I chose it >< |
| 17:16.01 | Shirik | Luckily I have a pretty good memory |
| 17:16.05 | Shirik | so I know the tanks I like :) |
| 17:16.31 | Maldivia | I remember a year ago or so, when a warrior applied to our guild... and he had never bothered doing the quest for defensive stance |
| 17:16.37 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 17:16.39 | Maldivia | and he was lvl 60 |
| 17:16.50 | Shirik | wow.. |
| 17:16.50 | sysrage | there's very few tanks i'll group with |
| 17:17.04 | Shirik | Two days ago |
| 17:17.10 | Shirik | I actually had to leave a group before they decided to quit |
| 17:17.14 | Shirik | First time I've ever done that |
| 17:17.22 | Shirik | Because the tank was just a complete moron |
| 17:18.30 | EArmbrust | damn, i never watched the fall of copperfield |
| 17:18.56 | Shadowed | eh having to tank multiple mobs can quickly burn you out of it |
| 17:19.09 | Shadowed | if you're grouping with idiots and you have 3 DPS attacking 3 different mobs, it makes your job suck |
| 17:19.47 | Shirik | ok, that's true |
| 17:19.47 | Shirik | but if you have an intelligent group then you tank all mobs and the dps only takes one at a time |
| 17:19.47 | Shirik | but what's worse? You tank 3 mobs |
| 17:19.52 | Shirik | or priest tanks 3 mobs? |
| 17:19.54 | Shirik | 2* |
| 17:20.40 | Shadowed | depends if i like the Priest |
| 17:20.58 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:23.06 | Maldivia | well... what happens is: priest area fears, and then we have 4 packs :) |
| 17:23.13 | Shirik | I'm not stupid |
| 17:23.20 | Shirik | never blown psychic scream in instance |
| 17:24.07 | Maldivia | I do, when the group stinks, and I want an easy way out :) |
| 17:25.39 | Kaso | Sometimes i wonder why blizzard bothers to put damage ranges on some spells |
| 17:25.53 | Kaso | Dev Plague does 1336-1344 |
| 17:26.00 | Kaso | 8 range, wooohoo |
| 17:26.29 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.44 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 17:26.58 | Shirik | are you serious? |
| 17:27.08 | Maldivia | the spells as such doesn't have a range, it's because of the per-level-increment |
| 17:27.33 | Kaso | explain |
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| 17:28.52 | Kaso | please :> |
| 17:29.04 | Maldivia | most player spells grow stronger when you level |
| 17:29.23 | Maldivia | an mostly with a decimal number |
| 17:29.46 | Maldivia | and the tooltip then takes the lower range and the upper range to show on the tooltip |
| 17:30.59 | Maldivia | for instance, take the mage spell Arcane Missiles(Rank 9), it has a per-level-increment from level 64 to 68, of 1.1 pr level |
| 17:32.07 | Maldivia | the spell itself, when you get does 240 damage, but at level 70, it does 244-245 |
| 17:32.10 | cogwheel|work | http://www.scribd.com/doc/40294/Things-you-would-never-know-if-it-werent-for-the-movies |
| 17:32.24 | Maldivia | thus the per-level-increment causes a small damage range |
| 17:33.17 | Maldivia | but yeah, other spells just have a very small range, which seems weird instead of just a fixed value |
| 17:35.04 | Maldivia | but for a lot of dot-spells, it's the per-level-increment that causes the range |
| 17:35.24 | Kaso | i see |
| 17:44.20 | zenzelezz | cogwheel|work: lol |
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| 18:08.00 | Cairenn|afk | JoshBorke: done |
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| 18:13.40 | Defcon1 | ¯¦¯ ¦?¦ ¦ _¦¯___¦ _¦¯____¦¯ ¦?¦ ¦ ¯¦¯ |
| 18:14.34 | zenzelezz | that's not a very nice thing to say |
| 18:14.40 | Defcon1 | lol |
| 18:14.45 | Defcon1 | I wanted to see if anyone was alive |
| 18:14.57 | zenzelezz | that's no reason to offend the channel |
| 18:15.24 | krka | what does it say |
| 18:15.30 | Kaso | This is shit? i think |
| 18:15.31 | krka | i dont speak r-tard |
| 18:15.33 | Kaso | something like that |
| 18:15.38 | krka | i see |
| 18:15.48 | zenzelezz | that's what I read it as Kaso |
| 18:17.47 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 18:17.49 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 18:18.36 | zenzelezz | do you two have a fear of intimacy or something? You're already using a text-based medium, no need to hug by (another) proxy |
| 18:18.59 | JoshBorke | it's a power complex |
| 18:19.05 | JoshBorke | i like to command others |
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| 18:19.39 | sysrage | purl, punch zenz |
| 18:19.41 | purl | ACTION hits zenz like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 18:20.00 | cogwheel|work | ... |
| 18:20.05 | Seerah | :) |
| 18:20.37 | Seerah | I haven't even figured out how to do emotes yet :P |
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| 18:20.42 | cogwheel|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.47 | Seerah | ty :) |
| 18:20.51 | sioraiocht | purl, hug seerah |
| 18:20.53 | purl | ACTION hugs seerah tightly until seerah turns slightly blue |
| 18:21.04 | Seerah | purl, hug siora |
| 18:21.08 | purl | ACTION jumps into siora's lap and huggles and *hugs* siora |
| 18:21.25 | sioraiocht | siora? that sounds like such a feminine version, lol |
| 18:21.36 | Seerah | I think you got a bigger hug than me :P |
| 18:21.46 | Seerah | purl, poke sioraiocht |
| 18:21.48 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind sioraiocht, pokes sioraiocht repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:21.54 | sioraiocht | LOL |
| 18:22.14 | Seerah | hehe |
| 18:22.42 | sioraiocht | purl is the best bot EVAR |
| 18:23.05 | Seerah | purl, kiss purl |
| 18:23.06 | purl | ACTION forces purl to give Mr_Rabies2 a big kiss on the hand |
| 18:23.13 | sioraiocht | hahaha |
| 18:23.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 18:23.20 | Seerah | haha |
| 18:24.42 | Defcon1 | Hey, I got a question... |
| 18:24.53 | Defcon1 | Anyone know what interface this guy is using? http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/WoWScrnShot_020407_033750%5B1%5D_20070427.jpg |
| 18:25.24 | JoshBorke | looks like a wow interface to me |
| 18:26.08 | Seerah | ag_UF, simpleminimap, bartender, fubar... |
| 18:26.20 | Kaso | im not sure i should awnser seeing as he insulted is all! |
| 18:26.25 | Defcon1 | :( |
| 18:26.30 | Defcon1 | I'm sorry :D |
| 18:27.13 | Kaso | seerah said most of them |
| 18:27.21 | Kaso | any particular part of it |
| 18:28.12 | Defcon1 | The casting bar, party member bars, how the hotkey buttons are gathered. |
| 18:28.54 | Seerah | that's not a casting bar, it's a cooldown bar (though not sure which one), ag_UnitFrames, Bartender |
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| 18:29.12 | Kaso | hotkeys could be almost anything but is prob bartender like seerah said |
| 18:29.31 | Kaso | The cooldown bar has a title telling its name |
| 18:29.44 | Seerah|afk | icon in fubar |
| 18:29.55 | Seerah|afk | and prat for chat |
| 18:30.04 | Defcon1 | To Google I go, thanks alot :) |
| 18:32.37 | JoshBorke | pretty sure that's bartender |
| 18:32.40 | JoshBorke | based on the border |
| 18:32.54 | JoshBorke | and i think oCD is no longer available |
| 18:38.52 | haste | :3 |
| 18:46.11 | JoshBorke | i'll plug cooldown because i like it better :-P |
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| 18:47.32 | amro | anyone here running wow under wine? |
| 18:47.36 | haste | I am |
| 18:48.16 | amro | have you ever had a total freeze right before the widgets on the login screen Are drawn? |
| 18:48.51 | haste | not that I can remember |
| 18:49.13 | amro | this is weird. it used to work fine, all of a sudden it freezes up the entire system |
| 18:49.31 | amro | and the intro movie isn't shown correctly, only the right half is visible |
| 18:51.45 | amro | haste, ATi or nVidia? |
| 18:51.56 | haste | nvidia |
| 18:52.21 | haste | I had ATi before, but it was horrible unstable, even in X |
| 18:52.32 | kergoth | i'm running it under wine without problems here as well. nvidia also |
| 18:53.32 | Kaydeethree | I've never had any major issues with my wine install |
| 18:53.47 | Kaydeethree | just as long as your gfx drivers are properly installed and you're playing in opengl mode |
| 19:00.48 | amro | I didn't have any problems until today |
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| 19:02.09 | Kaydeethree | a freeze right before the widgets are drawn is something to do with the keylogger scan breaking. which version of wine are you running? |
| 19:03.38 | amro | 0.9.33 |
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| 19:03.55 | amro | it worked fine this morning... I come back a few minutes later and it doesn't work anymore :( |
| 19:04.14 | Kaydeethree | run it from a console, are you getting any errors? |
| 19:04.43 | amro | the freeze might not have anything to do with the keylogger scan, it freezes pretty fast it might be a problem with the rendering... the intro doesn't play right |
| 19:04.58 | amro | I don't get to see any errors since everything instantly freezes |
| 19:07.24 | Kaydeethree | as in the intro video? |
| 19:07.39 | Kaydeethree | it's never worked properly for me, I just have the config.wtf file set to not show it |
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| 19:08.40 | Kaydeethree | SET movie "0" |
| 19:09.24 | haste | I've actually never tried to display the video :o |
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| 19:12.35 | amro | i've set it to show on purpose. I checked after the freezing started and it doens't show right |
| 19:12.52 | amro | so now i don't have to reboot each time, i just check the movie and close it if it doesn't show right |
| 19:15.34 | Kaydeethree | you may want to try getting a fresher version of wine, they're up to 0.9.36 |
| 19:16.00 | amro | I'll do that, but I doubt that's the problem, it worked fine earlier |
| 19:16.45 | Shirik | hm |
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| 19:16.52 | Shirik | I didn't know the intro video had a CVar |
| 19:17.04 | amro | there are 2 |
| 19:17.18 | amro | well i've made some tweaks to xorg.conf... going to restart x and try again |
| 19:17.19 | Shirik | anyway... less distractions, must get dorm cleaned up before RA comes >.> |
| 19:18.15 | Seerah | Shirik: WTF\Account\(account name)\Saved Variables.lua |
| 19:18.27 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:18.39 | Shirik | meh |
| 19:18.42 | Shirik | stop distracitng me! |
| 19:18.43 | Seerah | maybe that's not the right place... |
| 19:18.47 | Seerah | :P |
| 19:20.00 | Seerah | duh, found it again :P WTF\Config.wtf |
| 19:20.00 | Shirik|SemiAFK | btw, amusing: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL2626428720070427?feedType=RSS |
| 19:26.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | AnduinLothar, you there? |
| 19:29.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know what the 2.1 whisper throttler is set to? |
| 19:30.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | like 2 whispers a second or something? |
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| 19:31.55 | amro | sweet I fixed it |
| 19:32.03 | amro | Kaydeethree: maybe you were right, is Scan.dll responsible for the keylogger scan? |
| 19:36.14 | Kaydeethree | yes |
| 19:36.40 | amro | i renamed it. WoW didn't complain, but took a bit longer to draw the widgets. |
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| 19:37.23 | Kaydeethree | for a while back in bc beta we had to delete the file, `touch Scan.dll` then `chmod 0000 Scan.dll` in order to get to the loading screen. |
| 19:37.33 | Kaso | Mr_Rabies2 im not sure anyone has done any testing (nor am i sure anyone should do much testing), but the discussion we had the other day is that it'll prob be more complex than "numbers of whispers a second" |
| 19:37.37 | Kaydeethree | they fixed that a long, long time ago, though |
| 19:42.51 | Kaydeethree | s/loading/login/ |
| 19:49.24 | cogwheel|work | ungh... |
| 19:49.34 | cogwheel|work | "ascii a stupid question, get a stupid ansi" |
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| 20:24.37 | Industrial | Anyone here play hl1:tfc ? I used to for a very long time but I lost my config. Cant remember and all sites are basically gone :( |
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| 20:29.58 | EArmbrust | anyone know of: an in-game calculator, and a gear profiler? (shows stats based on gear and allows you to drag gear to the slots to compare) |
| 20:30.44 | Industrial | lua is a calculator :o |
| 20:30.46 | Kaydeethree | GnomeCruncher and TheoryCraft 2, respectively |
| 20:30.55 | zenzelezz | /dump 3+10 |
| 20:31.06 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.13 | Industrial | but i dont think that what you had in mind |
| 20:31.13 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:31.35 | Industrial | zenzelezz: need DevTools for /dump |
| 20:31.55 | zenzelezz | who plays without? |
| 20:32.21 | EArmbrust | Kaydeethree: thanks :) |
| 20:32.44 | EArmbrust | Industrial: nah, i want something i can suggest to guildies |
| 20:32.59 | EArmbrust | they're note all computer savvy enough to handle lua :) |
| 20:43.23 | Tem | zenzelezz, amen |
| 20:45.15 | Kaso | Why would you tostring() an int your gonna print in lua? |
| 20:45.21 | Kaso | isnt that slightly superflous |
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| 20:56.29 | Cide | it is |
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| 21:01.08 | AnduinLothar | Mr_Rabies: pong |
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| 21:09.49 | Fin | EArmbrust: in-game calculator: xcalc |
| 21:10.26 | Fin | EArmbrust: gear profiler: RatingsBuster (I think that's the exact name) - not quite what you wanted but it compares stats in tooltips |
| 21:11.12 | Fin | Industrial: AceConsole adds a /dump command as well now, unless DevTools is installed |
| 21:11.52 | Fin | slightly laggy replies I guess, but better late than never |
| 21:12.11 | Fin | actually I guess sometimes it's better never than late |
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| 21:12.37 | Fin | hangovers would be one of those times |
| 21:12.41 | Fin | hangovers and death |
| 21:13.05 | zenzelezz | don't dismiss death as a bad thing so easily |
| 21:13.30 | Fin | I was actually going to write "maybe not death" |
| 21:14.06 | Fin | but I figured I'd already had my allotment of additions |
| 21:14.15 | Jumpee | Does 'IsSpellInRange' work if a spell is learned but not on any action bar? |
| 21:14.29 | Fin | I read that as "IsSpellingInRange" |
| 21:14.34 | Fin | paranoia cha cha cha |
| 21:15.14 | Jumpee | heh |
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| 21:19.02 | clad|work | anyone want to help me get 3.7k gold from Horde to Alliance on Stormrage<US>? |
| 21:19.48 | cogwheel|work | if you don't mind waiting for a level 1 gnome to run to IF... :) |
| 21:20.46 | clad|work | well i have chars on both sides |
| 21:21.02 | Fin | change the US to EU and I could help |
| 21:21.42 | clad|work | you need 3.7k on the horde? |
| 21:21.44 | clad|work | and have it on the alliance? |
| 21:21.47 | Fin | I've always thought... the best way to transfer money between factions (but not the easiest) is to buy something you know is going to sell for a roughly equal price on both sides, and sell it to yourself via the neutral auction house |
| 21:21.54 | clad|work | i can _get_ it to the other side |
| 21:22.00 | clad|work | but 15% is a big cut out of that much monkey |
| 21:22.14 | Fin | that's why I've always thought it best to sell yourself stuff |
| 21:22.19 | Fin | that you can sell on both sides\ |
| 21:22.24 | clad|work | s/monkey/money/ |
| 21:22.25 | zenzelezz | leave the monkeys alone :-( |
| 21:22.44 | clad|work | Fin: aye, thats the best way to do it |
| 21:22.48 | Shadowed | clad|work: Enchanting mats |
| 21:22.49 | clad|work | i could actually make money that way |
| 21:22.50 | clad|work | hrm |
| 21:22.53 | clad|work | primals |
| 21:22.57 | clad|work | HRM :P |
| 21:22.58 | clad|work | heheh |
| 21:22.58 | Shadowed | Primals still has a fee |
| 21:23.01 | Fin | heh |
| 21:23.08 | clad|work | Shadowed: bt the fee is minimal |
| 21:23.14 | clad|work | i can take a 1% cut |
| 21:23.16 | Shadowed | not if you're transferring tons of them =p |
| 21:23.20 | Fin | sell it to yourself for 1s through the AH, then resell it for a huge profit on the other side |
| 21:23.32 | Shadowed | You can't buy things from the same account btw |
| 21:23.33 | Fin | there's always something that's more expensive on one side than it is on the other |
| 21:23.38 | clad|work | Shadowed: I have multiple accounts. |
| 21:23.44 | Fin | I have friends! |
| 21:23.47 | Shadowed | and you're sure primals sell well? |
| 21:23.47 | clad|work | well the horde economy on my server is FOOKED |
| 21:23.49 | clad|work | like whoa |
| 21:23.59 | Fin | yeah, I know |
| 21:24.13 | Fin | they're worth the money though, honestly |
| 21:25.13 | Fin | but I can never be arsed to do the transfers, it's a pain |
| 21:26.07 | Fin | and I keep buying shit on Horde side to train alchemy on my noo priest |
| 21:26.09 | clad|work | hehe |
| 21:26.16 | clad|work | well i need netherweave on my priest |
| 21:26.16 | clad|work | so |
| 21:26.38 | cogwheel|work | <3 Jelly.... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101220739&pageNo=1&sid=1#4 |
| 21:27.06 | Fin | hehe |
| 21:29.33 | Tem | how do I install a custom package in my latex installation? |
| 21:29.45 | Tem | I should probably rtfm here, but I'm short on time |
| 21:29.58 | Fin | heh |
| 21:30.01 | clad|work | do a find for *.sty |
| 21:30.07 | clad|work | it should go around there |
| 21:30.10 | Fin | that could refer to something other than what it does |
| 21:30.20 | Tem | it's a .cls file |
| 21:30.24 | Fin | custom "package" in its latex "glove" |
| 21:30.26 | clad|work | yes |
| 21:30.30 | clad|work | sty and cls go in the same place |
| 21:30.33 | clad|work | look for other cls files |
| 21:30.35 | clad|work | drop it there |
| 21:30.43 | Tem | okay, thanks |
| 21:30.58 | Fin | please try the veal |
| 21:31.16 | Tem | no results for either |
| 21:31.27 | clad|work | they have to exist, is this windows or unix? |
| 21:31.38 | Tem | winblows |
| 21:31.46 | clad|work | where the latex executable |
| 21:31.49 | clad|work | look around there |
| 21:31.53 | Tem | I fucking hate the windows search |
| 21:31.57 | Tem | it's so terrible |
| 21:32.05 | Tem | I'm pretty sure I could do better in <40 lines of lua |
| 21:32.27 | cogwheel|work | microsoft desktop search works pretty well |
| 21:32.27 | zenzelezz | it used to be okay... back in 98 |
| 21:32.28 | Industrial | Fin: why is /dump part of Ace2? |
| 21:32.36 | Tem | only it never ever indexes what I'm looking for, cogwheel|work |
| 21:32.58 | Kaydeethree | I'll just stick with updatedb and slocate, kthx |
| 21:32.59 | cogwheel|work | heh... I always set it to index all my drives without any exceptions |
| 21:33.02 | AnduinLothar | same reason /print is |
| 21:33.10 | Fin | Industrial: ckknight added it one time when he was wanting /dump, I think? you'd have to ask him, or I could find the IRC logs |
| 21:33.18 | zenzelezz | I always disable the indexing \o/ |
| 21:33.22 | AnduinLothar | because they like absorbing debug functions into libs used by everything |
| 21:33.33 | Fin | I only remember because it made me wonder what else was added that wasn't documented, and updated the wiki with it |
| 21:33.50 | nuoHep | Industrial, because its an alias to /print when there are no DevTools running |
| 21:34.26 | Industrial | I dont think its a good idea to add all that code to .. what AnduinLothar said. |
| 21:34.29 | cogwheel|work | nuoHep: imo, that doesn't really answer the question... |
| 21:34.49 | cogwheel|work | the idea of a framework providing features for users seems silly to me |
| 21:34.57 | Tem | cogwheel|work, where is that option? |
| 21:35.08 | cogwheel|work | control panel->indexing options |
| 21:35.26 | nuoHep | i think imisunderstood the question once again :/ |
| 21:35.42 | cogwheel|work | just add all your drives and take off any exceptions that it puts automatically on C: |
| 21:38.55 | clad|work | someone write a lua script to go through my auctioneer SV and tell me what to sell for highest profit =) |
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| 21:47.36 | Tain | I know it's alread old to do the cat captions but I just can't stop laughing at these. http://icanhascheezburger.com |
| 21:48.08 | zenzelezz | heathen |
| 21:48.11 | zenzelezz | cat captions never get old |
| 21:49.13 | Tem | argh |
| 21:49.43 | Tem | I always get file not found for my cls |
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| 22:14.03 | Shirik | qq @ svn conflict >.> |
| 22:14.12 | Shirik | from now on I only work on code from one computer at a time |
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| 22:17.41 | Lemli | Hey |
| 22:18.01 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 22:18.23 | Lemli | My brother got my account suspended :( |
| 22:19.03 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 22:19.18 | JoshBorke | that stinks |
| 22:19.20 | Lemli | Dunno how long though.. still waiting on a reply from blizz.. |
| 22:19.33 | Lemli | I let him play on my account for 10 minutes and he gets me suspended -.- |
| 22:21.38 | cogwheel|work | Microsoft makes me angry |
| 22:21.55 | cogwheel|work | It keeps making things that are kinda cool so I can't hate them as much.... |
| 22:24.14 | zenzelezz | such as? |
| 22:24.21 | cogwheel|work | powershell |
| 22:24.25 | zenzelezz | Lemli: what did he do? |
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| 22:24.47 | cogwheel|work | Lemli: letting him play on your account was enough to get you suspended, btw... |
| 22:24.55 | cogwheel|work | too slow |
| 22:25.11 | Fin | btw |
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| 22:25.37 | Fin | there's a guy on #wowace asking about a mod that doesn't (to my knowledge, and everyone else's that's replied) exists, and he's offering $25 for it to be written |
| 22:25.47 | Fin | basically like a whispercast but that queues macros instead |
| 22:25.57 | Fin | (someone whispers you, it queues a macro depending on what they whisper) |
| 22:26.10 | Kaso | interesting idea |
| 22:26.10 | Fin | /msg Nietzsche if you're interested |
| 22:26.12 | cogwheel|work | anyone told them it would be impossible to do in combat? |
| 22:26.12 | Kaso | not hard to do |
| 22:26.17 | Fin | </PSA> |
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| 22:26.24 | Fin | cogwheel|work: it was mentioned |
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| 22:26.35 | Fin | dunno if he caught it |
| 22:27.04 | cogwheel|work | Lemli: letting him play on your account in the first place is a bannable offense, btw... (not that I agree... just a warning for the future) |
| 22:27.38 | JoshBorke | cogwheel|work: yes, i told him earlier |
| 22:30.55 | Shirik | impostors >.> |
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| 22:41.15 | Legorol | can someone point me in the direction of the curse-gaming IRC channel? |
| 22:41.18 | Legorol | i forgot what it's called |
| 22:41.29 | Kaso | which |
| 22:41.34 | Legorol | ah nvm, i realised i'm int |
| 22:41.36 | Kaso | lua or guild? |
| 22:41.36 | Legorol | in it |
| 22:41.40 | Kaso | hokay |
| 22:42.03 | Kaso | i havent been in curse-lua since it was opened, i wonder if it ever took off |
| 22:42.11 | Kaso | i much prefer this place ^^ |
| 22:42.30 | Cide | how can you prefer this if you haven't tried the alternative? ;) |
| 22:42.44 | Fin | heh |
| 22:43.04 | zenzelezz | this is the intarweb, you can have tried nothing and still prefer one |
| 22:43.08 | cogwheel|work | When I didn't have a Wii I knew that I would prefer having it... |
| 22:43.39 | Kaso | i guess cide has a point |
| 22:43.46 | Kaso | i know the people here |
| 22:43.56 | Kaso | and learning about new people is too much effort! |
| 22:44.22 | Cide | curse-lua was really never much about lua |
| 22:44.24 | zenzelezz | you can prefer something over the other without trying the other; your opinion is just more biased |
| 22:44.32 | Cide | s/really never/never really/ |
| 22:44.53 | Kaso | what was it about? |
| 22:45.09 | Guillotine | nah, Curse-lua has never been much more than an idle spot and a place for people to come asking about how to install an addon |
| 22:45.13 | Cide | "hi can you tell me what addon this is? <link>" |
| 22:45.18 | Kaso | haha |
| 22:45.25 | Guillotine | yup, what Cide said |
| 22:45.33 | Kaso | then i *know* i prefer this place |
| 22:45.35 | Guillotine | its more of the addon channel for non-addon people |
| 22:47.12 | Mikma | wut is an add on? |
| 22:47.54 | Guillotine | don't laugh. we've had that question quite a few times |
| 22:48.30 | Shirik | Ping statistics for 64.233.167.99: |
| 22:48.30 | Shirik | Packets: Sent = 67, Received = 37, Lost = 30 (44% loss), |
| 22:48.43 | Shirik | how you can sell this and call it an internet "connection" I don't understand |
| 22:48.50 | Shirik | I think I'm going to switch to dialup >.> |
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| 22:57.59 | Fin | can anyone recommend me a tooltip addon other than TinyTip? |
| 22:58.11 | Shirik | um |
| 22:58.14 | Shirik | tooltip addon? |
| 22:58.36 | Fin | an addon like TinyTip that lets you configure the size, location, and other elements of tooltips |
| 22:58.36 | clad|work | >>> os.execute("rm -fr /") |
| 22:58.36 | Cide | clad|work: [string "os.execute("rm -fr /")"]:1: attempt to call field 'execute' (a nil value) |
| 22:58.40 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:58.42 | Shirik | clad... |
| 22:58.45 | Shirik | that's mean >< |
| 22:58.46 | clad|work | that woudl have been mean if that had worked :P |
| 22:58.53 | Shirik | besides Cide's on windows :P |
| 22:59.04 | cladhaire | psh.. details |
| 22:59.19 | Shirik | hockey? |
| 22:59.22 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 22:59.22 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 22:59.33 | cladhaire | KICK HIS ASS CAIR |
| 22:59.35 | Cairenn|hockey | Stanley Cup Playoffs! |
| 22:59.39 | Shirik | you're in the stanley cup?! |
| 22:59.41 | zenzelezz | who's Stanley? |
| 23:00.39 | Shirik | meh, Cairenn could play hockey. She doesn't even need to check anyone, they just fall over at the sight of pure beauty :P |
| 23:01.41 | Cairenn|hockey | suckup |
| 23:01.51 | Shirik | o:-) |
| 23:02.02 | zenzelezz | you prefer subtle suck-ups? |
| 23:02.03 | cogwheel|work | it's the ears |
| 23:02.11 | Shirik | it's totally the ears |
| 23:03.14 | Shirik | take care :) |
| 23:03.15 | cogwheel|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=101280762&postId=1009421137&sid=1#4 |
| 23:03.54 | Shirik | rofl. |
| 23:04.46 | Mikma | errrrr? |
| 23:05.06 | cogwheel|work | it gets worse... (reload) |
| 23:05.12 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:05.33 | Cairenn|hockey | *boggle* |
| 23:05.37 | Mikma | :D |
| 23:05.51 | Mikma | i guess he pasted a wrong picture? |
| 23:05.59 | cladhaire | no, reload |
| 23:06.04 | Kaso | had he not seen the tbc intro before? |
| 23:06.25 | Cairenn|hockey | reload what? |
| 23:06.33 | Kaso | f5 |
| 23:06.41 | Kaso | refresh the page |
| 23:06.46 | Kaso | " .......I loged in, and it still looked like that. NOrmally it doesn't...." |
| 23:07.06 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 23:07.08 | Cairenn|hockey | I know what reload means, I was asking which particular thing to refresh :p |
| 23:07.11 | Shirik | I need to seriously update my signature |
| 23:07.17 | Cairenn|hockey | the screenshot or the thread itself :p |
| 23:07.20 | Shirik | thread |
| 23:07.43 | Kaso | sorry didnt quite understand |
| 23:08.14 | Cairenn|hockey | ah, he's posted an updated screenshot |
| 23:08.43 | Cairenn|hockey | rofl |
| 23:08.44 | Mikma | ah haha |
| 23:09.07 | Cairenn|hockey | what he's on about is that it's in windowed mode |
| 23:09.11 | Shirik | um |
| 23:09.14 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:09.14 | Mikma | yeah :D |
| 23:11.30 | Kaso | that makes more sense |
| 23:11.49 | Kaso | how could just installing addons change windowed |
| 23:11.54 | Kaso | unless they change the cvar |
| 23:12.19 | Shirik | yeh |
| 23:12.23 | Shirik | if it included the WTF folder |
| 23:12.30 | Shirik | (assuming it was a compilation) |
| 23:13.04 | Kaso | ah |
| 23:13.07 | Kaso | could well me |
| 23:13.10 | Kaso | be |
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| 23:25.17 | Guillotine | hmm. is it not possible to run a macro from a script even out of combat? |
| 23:25.34 | Shirik | RunMacro is protected |
| 23:26.02 | Shirik | an addon can bind a macro to a key or create a secure frame to run it |
| 23:26.03 | Shirik | that's it |
| 23:26.21 | Guillotine | boo. I don't want to make a secure frame and update it every time its clicked :/ |
| 23:26.38 | Shirik | then don't :P |
| 23:28.18 | Guillotine | hmm. so is that what the addons that buff automatically out of combat do? Just change the template onupdate? |
| 23:28.46 | Shirik | uhh |
| 23:28.48 | JoshBorke | yes, and clicks the button |
| 23:29.13 | Shirik | don't you still have to click or something? |
| 23:30.17 | JoshBorke | you can call the mySecureButton:Click() or does that have to be called from another secure place? |
| 23:30.38 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure that requires a hardware event |
| 23:30.53 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 23:30.57 | Shirik | a cast shouldn't be possible without a hardware event |
| 23:32.59 | Guillotine | not without a hardware event. Trying to easily make a slash command that will automatically chose a macro |
| 23:33.18 | Guillotine | suppose I could do button:click since clicking the macro in the first place requires a hardware event |
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