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07:22.19JunkHead-WorkOk I got a question...
07:22.31JunkHead-WorkWhat age is the youngest person you have ever partied with?
07:22.43Corrodiascan't tell
07:22.50Corrodias*can't determine
07:23.19JunkHead-WorkLast time I was in Kara, We pugged and had a Resto Druid.
07:23.25Corrodiasthe only people i've heard ages from were generally over 20, although i think one guildmate reported to be under 18. don't remember who and don't know if i partied with him.
07:23.31JunkHead-WorkAnd she had to go early to go to bed.
07:23.52JunkHead-WorkAfter we told her to tell her parents to go to hell...
07:23.58JunkHead-WorkShe told us she wa sonly 13.
07:24.05JunkHead-Work13 yr old, female.
07:24.10JunkHead-WorkIn Karazhan.
07:24.19JunkHead-WorkThat's hardcore odd!
07:24.20Corrodiastasty. i mean... i don't see where you're going with this
07:24.42JunkHead-WorkNot going anywhere really.
07:24.56JunkHead-WorkJust a random thought.
07:25.14JunkHead-WorkWe had a guy in our guild once, he was like... 65 or something.
07:25.21JunkHead-WorkHe had at least 6 lvl 60 characters.
07:26.35Corrodiasi've never done full a DM run, except i think East
07:26.57JunkHead-WorkI've only been in DM 3 times.
07:27.11Corrodiasand before the expansion i never saw the inside of scholomance or stratholme
07:27.20Corrodiasi could never get a pug to take me, and guildmates apparently never went
07:27.22JunkHead-WorkOnce on a run to... some section, but I had never been there and noone bother to meet me at the door to help me find everyone.
07:27.31Corrodiasi just realized how much i like this expansion
07:27.35JunkHead-WorkSo I ended up getting lost and everyone else quit before I even found them.
07:27.43Corrodiaslol
07:28.04JunkHead-WorkThe only other times was when I solo'ed the part for my epic mount, then I helped a friend get her epic.
07:28.37JunkHead-WorkAlso, before expansion, i had never been to scholo, and only went to strat maybe once or twice. Same for UBRS, once or maybe twice.
07:28.43Corrodiasah yes, i've been ... somewhere twice for that
07:28.51Corrodiaswhere do you go? i totally don't remember
07:28.57JunkHead-WorkBut it took me forever to hit 60.
07:29.06JunkHead-WorkWhere do you go for...?
07:29.49JunkHead-WorkOr are you asking where did I go before the expansion?
07:29.52Corrodiassorry, i'm assuming the warlock epic mount
07:29.57Corrodiasmay not be the warlock one you're talking about
07:29.59JunkHead-WorkOh, nah Paladin.
07:30.08Corrodiasi have no idea what alliance paladins do for that
07:30.17JunkHead-WorkPaladin Epic Mount quest you had to go into DM... West I think.
07:30.22JunkHead-WorkAnd kill some big boss.
07:30.32Corrodiasi accompanied one guildmate on his quest, which had us holding off ghosts at a chapel in stratholme
07:30.34JunkHead-WorkThen go to Scholo after that.
07:30.52JunkHead-WorkThat sounds hard. Strat is evil.
07:31.25Corrodiasnot when you have a level 70 feral druid along
07:31.41JunkHead-WorkMe and another paladin were bored one day and went to strat.
07:31.59JunkHead-WorkWe avoided a lot of mobs, and easily kille dthe ones we fought.
07:32.05Corrodiasafter he hearthed out, i decided to see how far i could solo my way toward the baron. i gave up while fighting the skeletons and other undead that spawn after you pull all the abominations. it was too long a run back.
07:32.08JunkHead-WorkThen we found the ones that drain mana...
07:32.13JunkHead-WorkAnd the ones that fear.
07:32.17JunkHead-WorkAt the same time.
07:32.21Corrodiashaha
07:32.28JunkHead-WorkI don't want to ever go back to Strat again.
07:32.42JunkHead-WorkI took res sickness.
07:33.27Corrodiaswhat everyone needs is a pet druid
07:33.36JunkHead-WorkYeah.
07:35.06JunkHead-WorkHa, my GM and Co-GM are in BM again.
07:35.20Corrodiasgood luck to them this time!
07:35.36Corrodiasactually, the last boss can get a little hectic
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07:35.55Corrodiasbut if the healer is playing well, it shouldn't be a problem
07:35.58JunkHead-WorkWe have 3 people in Arc also. This is a good sign.
07:37.51JunkHead-WorkRogue just got 3rd fragment.
07:39.50JunkHead-WorkI will keep checking in with them. I hope they finally finish it.
07:40.08JunkHead-WorkIt'd be nice to have a warlock in Kara.
07:43.39Corrodiasi suspect one of our MT's of being a keyboard turner
07:43.50JunkHead-WorkHahaha That's so funyn to watch.
07:43.52Corrodiashe doesn't seem too quick to react to changing events
07:44.24JunkHead-WorkI like seeing someone pull aggro, then the tank slow turn around.
07:44.29JunkHead-WorkI giggle everytime.
07:44.37Corrodiasyes yes!
07:44.51Corrodiasonly for me it's not so much giggling as "AAAAAH MOB ON THE LOOSE"
07:45.02JunkHead-Work"Oh crap! Must regain aggro"
07:45.09JunkHead-Work*Pushes the "A" Key*
07:45.21JunkHead-Work1, one thousand, 2, one thousand, 3...
07:45.45JunkHead-Work"Ah Ha! I see him now!"
07:46.02Nom-*sigh*
07:46.09Nom-Afternoon of wiping on Netherspite
07:46.10Nom-*fun*
07:46.27JunkHead-Work:(
07:47.03Corrodiasyeah...
07:47.25Corrodiasmaybe you can go do some heroic ramparts to cheer up
07:50.43JunkHead-WorkI don't know what just made me think about this...
07:50.58JunkHead-WorkBut are Flash Bombs useful in any expansion dungeons?
07:51.06JunkHead-WorkWe used to use them in ZG a good bit.
07:51.15Corrodiasi don't know what that is
07:51.20Corrodiassounds like an engineer thing
07:51.20JunkHead-WorkOne sec.
07:51.31JunkHead-WorkIt is.
07:51.36JunkHead-WorkBut anyone can use them.
07:51.41JunkHead-WorkThey're really helpful.
07:51.54JunkHead-Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=4852
07:52.08Corrodiaswhoa, nice
07:52.13Corrodiaswould have been a lot nicer at 60...
07:53.06JunkHead-WorkWe used them on the tiger and panther bosse sin ZG. Noone has mentioned them in the new areas though.
07:53.16JunkHead-WorkIf they would be useful, I might make some.
07:53.46Corrodiasdepends on how high this chance of failure is
07:54.10Corrodiasnothing pops to mind as a beast-centric fight in the new instances, though
07:54.14JunkHead-WorkThey seemed to work quite often for us.
07:54.18JunkHead-WorkExactly.
07:54.48Corrodiasa couple of pulls in heroic underbog, but if those give you trouble, you have other problems
07:57.19JunkHead-WorkOne of our Druids just got the second fragment.
07:58.54Corrodiasi was thinking of this for a mage. what do you think? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=obZEgMuffcoeRtbh
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07:59.34JunkHead-WorkI've never been a fire mage.
07:59.39JunkHead-WorkBut let's see...
08:00.39JunkHead-WorkLooks fine to me, although in my opinion, (And rememebr I've never been fire so I might be completely wrong)...
08:00.58JunkHead-WorkWouldn't Imp Fire Blast be more useful than Flamestrike?
08:01.01Corrodiasi do wonder how much i'd wish i'd taken improved fire blast and blazing speed
08:01.03Nom-*sigh*
08:01.11Nom-I dunno what we're doing wrong here
08:01.19Nom-We keep wiping in the transition from phase 2 back to phase 1
08:01.34Nom-we're stopping all dps and trying to have a tank pick up netherspite, but it's not working
08:01.36JunkHead-WorkTell the Night Elf rogue to take off his ghost goggles.
08:01.46Corrodiaswell, hmm, i don't suppose i'd be using flamestrike all that often...
08:02.15JunkHead-WorkAgain Corrodias, That's just me, I'd think Flamstrike is kinda situational.
08:02.58Corrodiasnow, about arcane subtlety. 10 resistance is nothing if it doesn't let you drag them into negative resistances, but 40% reduction of threat from arcane spells...
08:03.35Corrodiasthe usefulness of that depends on if there's a time i would need to use arcane blasts heavily in a group or something
08:03.39JunkHead-WorkI have it.
08:03.47JunkHead-WorkBut then again, My mage is full arcane.
08:04.53Corrodiascrap! invisibility! i knew i was missing a place on my action bars for some spell...
08:05.03Corrodiasi'm going to have some wack macros
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08:07.42Corrodiasbecause of having so many spells, i'm resorting to using the self-cast key as the modifer to choose between, for example, pyroblast and fireball
08:08.14JunkHead-WorkI don't even have any macros.
08:09.08Corrodiasi simply can't imagine how you'd use all of your combat abilities without clicking on action bars, then, unless you map the bars to more than number keys
08:09.17Corrodiasand modifiers
08:09.33JunkHead-WorkWell, for my paladin, I have on action bar with my healing spells.
08:09.42JunkHead-WorkThose are mapped to 1-=
08:09.45Corrodiasyou know, come to think of it, i don't know what i'm using control+shift+numbers for right now
08:09.54JunkHead-WorkThen I have a bar or seals, and a few other things.
08:10.01JunkHead-WorkThen a bar for lessing and other things.
08:10.01Corrodiasi'm specifically talking about the mage
08:10.08JunkHead-WorkYeah for my mage...
08:10.16JunkHead-WorkI have a damage action bar basically.
08:10.23JunkHead-WorkKeyed to number keys.
08:10.23Corrodiasthere are way too many psells for me to put them everywhere without macroing something
08:10.29JunkHead-WorkThe rest I click with mouse.
08:10.36Corrodias*spells
08:10.55JunkHead-WorkI was just thinking though since you mentioned that.
08:11.12JunkHead-WorkAbout maybe getting one of those USB things that you can arrange keys however you want them.
08:11.33JunkHead-WorkBut I have no idea how I'd use it for spells... considering I only have 2 hands.
08:12.15Corrodiaslet's see, arcane spec... frostbolt, fire blast, arcane missiles, arcane blast, spellsteal, frost nova, polymorph, blizzard, ice lance...
08:12.33JunkHead-Workhttp://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/77ba/
08:12.45JunkHead-WorkThis thing, but I have no idea how I'd set it up.
08:12.47Corrodiasif you don't count spellsteal through polymorph as quick cast combat spells, i don't know how you'd get them off in an effective manner
08:13.20JunkHead-WorkWell, you also have more spells than my mage, my mage is only 54 or so.
08:13.47Corrodiasso discount ice lance and spellsteal, gives you 7 spells. doable.
08:15.35JunkHead-WorkI have polymorph on a seperate bar.
08:15.40JunkHead-WorkIt isn't hot keyed.
08:16.39JunkHead-WorkWand, Arcane Missles, Arcane Explosion, Frostbolt, Cone Of Cold, Frost Nova, Fireball, Fireblast, Flamestrike
08:16.44Corrodiasthat seems to me unwise
08:16.49JunkHead-WorkBlizzard is after frost nova.
08:17.02JunkHead-WorkSo that's 10 spells...
08:17.04Corrodiasi can't hit any number past 7 without releasing my movement controls
08:17.30JunkHead-Work7 for me would be blizzard.
08:17.38Corrodiasi don't have ` bound to anything, though. that's probably pretty foolish.
08:17.42JunkHead-WorkAfter that would be fire spells, which I don't use much.
08:17.50Corrodiasi need to start using it, given my trouble finding keys for things...
08:17.53JunkHead-WorkI don't either now that i think about it.
08:18.07JunkHead-WorkI could remove wand from my bar and stick it to `
08:18.23JunkHead-WorkOr maybe even polymorph.
08:18.39JunkHead-WorkThey got the first BM boss down.
08:18.50Corrodiasi already use 1-7, control+ 1-6, shift+ 1-6, control+q,e,(r,t,y,)f,g (r,t,y are for bandages, potions, healthstones), and alt as self cast or for macros to toggle casting alternate spells
08:19.38JunkHead-WorkThat's a nice setup. I honestly need to start using more hotkeys.
08:19.49JunkHead-WorkBut I get by fairly well on my mage.
08:19.53Corrodiasi just need to pick a layout and get used to it
08:20.14JunkHead-WorkI'm beginning to use Shift + numbers for spells too.
08:20.14Corrodiasi agonize over the layout, but really i can work with most things. then if something is inconvenient it can be changed.
08:21.08JunkHead-WorkHungry. Brb.
08:21.19Corrodiasi like to categorize where i put things or stick to common spells across different classes... i like number 5 for interruptions and stuns, for example
08:21.49Corrodiasi prefer to put aoe spells on shift+number buttons, but the mage is screwing that up a little
08:23.06Corrodiasso i've got arcane missiles / arcane blast; flamestrike / blizzard; cone of cold; arcane explosion; ... then i think i planned spellsteal for shift+5
08:23.48JunkHead-WorkSo counterspell would be on "5"?
08:23.53Corrodiasyeah
08:24.19JunkHead-WorkI see now.
08:24.41Corrodiasi put warstomp, bash, kick, and counterspell on there. i don't recall what i had my hunter put there. he doesn't have silencing shot
08:25.14Corrodiashelps ease the transition a little if i can keep similarly themed abilities in the same place
08:25.20ZealotOnAStickscattershot would be the obvious.
08:26.02Corrodiashe doesn't have that either. ah, i had scare beast there.
08:26.30Corrodiasif and when he'd get those, i'd make a macro out of them with scare beast when i held alt
08:29.15Corrodiasi like to use control+Q and control+E for abilities to use when i need to get something off really fast, emergency spells. paladin bubbles, nature's swiftness + healing touch macro, ice barrier/ice block... but if i'm not speccing frost, i couldn't think of what to use there. i settled for blast wave and dragon's breath on E and mana shield on Q. i may have reconsidered later.
08:30.06Corrodiasi'd probably put cold snap there, come to think of it, and ice block and ice barrier on an alt-toggled macro
08:30.59Corrodiasthat's why i reconsidered putting mana shield there. i want to "save space" or use fire specific spells in places where i'd otherwise use frost specific spells
08:33.29Corrodiasi'm just talking to myself in public now
08:33.41JunkHead-WorkHaha yeah
08:33.51VilkkuCorrodias, talking about some addon thatdoes stuff for you or just button placement?
08:33.55JunkHead-WorkYou're "thinking out loud"
08:34.00JunkHead-WorkBut in text form.
08:34.59Corrodiasability placement on buttons/keybinds
08:36.00Corrodiasmana shield, mana shield
08:36.02Corrodiaswhat to do with mana shield?
08:36.18JunkHead-Work`
08:36.20JunkHead-Work:)
08:36.25VilkkuCorrodias, what spec are you?
08:36.30Corrodiasthis might be where i resort to using that key
08:36.34Nom-anyone here been in a group that's taken down Netherspite ?
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08:36.38Corrodiasfor now, it's full fire
08:36.46VilkkuNom-, I have
08:36.53JunkHead-WorkNom- - Not I.
08:36.55VilkkuCorrodias, ah, was thinking shaman :<
08:37.20Vilkkubut thats called water shield, yes.
08:37.33TemCorrodias, I have blast wave on my ice barrier key and dragon's breath on my CoC key
08:37.47Corrodiasis mana shield something you'd hit when things are going awry, or should i not worry about having it quickly accessible in combat?
08:37.50Temand combustion on my cold snap key
08:38.04Nom-what strat did you use?
08:38.06Corrodias6! duh!
08:38.09Temmana sheild is alt+icebarrier key
08:38.15Nom-we keep losing people in the 2->1 transition :(
08:38.34Vilkkuthe phases?
08:38.43TemCorrodias, and yes, it is somthing you hit a lot in pvp
08:38.49Vilkkuor do you mean changing people taking beaks?
08:38.55Corrodiasokay, i need to rearrange my stuff a little, then
08:39.07Nom-phase transition yeah
08:39.40Temit's funny, I've been a frost mage for so long that I periodically cast blast wave in town because I used to keep ice barrier up ALL the time
08:39.57VilkkuNom-, I trust you use something like BigWigs that warns about the thing (even if Blizzard default have some warning for it I think)?
08:40.07Nom-yeah we do
08:40.15Corrodiasmana shield & ice barrier on the same key is great. cold snap & combustion is not too good for me because they're nothing like each other, but none of the other frost spells would fit in the same space...
08:40.25Nom-the dps keeps pulling during the transition despite not doing any dps during the change
08:40.25Corrodiasperhaps i should macro combustion with some other spell, then
08:40.29Vilkkualso, do you use the strat of running out of the room to the corridor and beyond to avoid it?
08:40.37Nom-and it's not just classes you'd espect to pull (warlocks) it's others like hunters
08:40.46TemCorrodias, I dunno.  I need to learn to use combustion more often
08:40.49Nom-tried both
08:41.03Nom-for now we have our melee run out during banish
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08:41.13Corrodiasokay, where can i macro combustion...
08:41.22JunkHead-WorkAlt + ` !
08:41.23TemCorrodias, think about it like this: In the "old days" cold snap was a way to get a little extra burst damage
08:41.35Temno that's rank one arcane explosion
08:41.51Corrodiasbrilliant! ` key for low rank spells
08:42.01Temactually ` is blink
08:42.07Corrodiasi have a couple of those i need to bind
08:42.13Nom-my mage is Shift+E as combustion :)
08:42.23Temhmm
08:42.31TemI need to start binding shift to some things
08:42.31Corrodiasi use that for a trinket
08:42.51Temshift E is _really_ comfortable for me
08:42.52Corrodiasokay, combustion could stay on 6 and i could put cold snap on 6, but 6 is a little bit of a reach and it can cause a minor delay
08:43.02VilkkuNom-, I'll just give a quick rundown of what we do... when he starts to get banished, we run out of line of sight (they might be nerfing this by adding an door in 2.1), during the banish phase we regen mana and use bandages, then we run back in when the banish is over
08:44.20Corrodiasi know, cold snap on C_Q, ice block on CA_Q, ice barrier on C_E, and mana shield on CA_E
08:46.21JunkHead-WorkOk, earlier you mentioned not being able to reach past "7" without releasing moevement keys...
08:46.36JunkHead-WorkHow can you use movement keys and still hit 3 keys to do a spell?
08:46.45JunkHead-WorkOr am I missing something here?
08:47.30JunkHead-WorkSeems like it'd be easier to just move the mouse to click a spell if I had to hit 3 keys to cast it.
08:47.32Corrodiascontrol - pinky, alt - thumb, E or Q - index or ring finger, W or other movement key - middle finger
08:47.52Corrodiasalthough i have to release them momentarily because my keyboard can't understand that many keys at a time, i don't have to move my hand
08:48.01JunkHead-WorkOk.
08:48.09Corrodiasi consider moving my hand past 7 an unacceptable delay in combat
08:50.00JunkHead-WorkBm was a bust again. They got to the 2nd boss.
08:50.06JunkHead-WorkTrying again though I think.
08:50.23Corrodiassecond boss can be tricksy, but i haven't seen it fail with a priest or mage who is on the ball
08:51.00Corrodias(dispel/spellsteal when he hastes)
08:52.13Corrodiaswith my druid dodge rating, he doesn't get to apply his healing debuff very high
08:56.33GngskCorrodias, purge too!
08:57.17Corrodiaswhat's that now?
08:57.29Gngskit can remove the haste buff
08:57.47Corrodiasokay, which class is that?
08:57.54JunkHead-Workshammy
08:58.00Corrodiasgood to know
08:58.21Corrodiasi just made a great layout design but forgot about arcane missiles and arcane blast
08:58.26Corrodiaswhy must the mage have so many spells? argh
08:58.35Neeblerwarlocks have more
08:58.49Corrodiasshift+5. :P
08:59.01Neeblermodifiers are essential
08:59.25Corrodiashunter was bad. mage is a nightmare. i don't even want to think about what a warlock would be with even more.
08:59.44Corrodiasmy druid layout is blissfully simple, at least per form
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09:03.58Neeblerrogue is the most simplistic
09:12.19JunkHead-WorkAnd... BM was a loss again.
09:14.32JunkHead-Work2nd boss was as far as they got it seems.
09:14.47ShirikBM is so fun
09:14.54ShirikI have yet to let Medivh go below 99%
09:14.58Shirikand that one time he got to 99% I was pissed
09:15.18JunkHead-WorkOur Gm is having severe problems with BM.
09:16.29ShirikI just want that damn trinket
09:16.30Shirikit's so hot
09:16.37Shirikbut it only drops when I'm not there :(
09:18.21Shirikanyway, time for bed
09:18.25Shiriktake care/nick Shirik|zZz
09:18.39Shirik|zZzI fail at /nick tonight
09:27.36Corrodiashmm
09:27.49Corrodiasi don't know how simple rogue is, haven't played one past 13 or so
09:28.13Corrodiasi'm impressed that he hasn't gotten below 99%. we typically don't pay the adds much mind during the second boss.
09:28.35Corrodiasdo you have people dropping their beacons or is someone continuing to handle the little guys?
09:31.25Corrodiasoh yes, you're not here
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09:31.48Corrodiaswell, anyway, now i'm thinking about blazing speed. is that handy enough, or should i move the points over to improved flamestrike?
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09:40.23Corrodiascan't take many hits. 10% chance to run faster...
09:43.06TemBlazing Speed is FUCKING AWESOME
09:43.13Temimp flamestrike is worthless
09:44.04Corrodiasyou don't use flamestrike all that much? i wouldn't expect to.
09:44.04Corrodiasbut my mage experience is limited
09:48.15Temin pvp, never
09:48.29Temin instances and stuff once in a blue moon
09:48.51Temblazing speed is an inifnitely more useful talent
09:49.52Corrodiaswell, i guess i'll find out
09:50.19Temhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=kf0VZEgMzfccReRt
09:51.50Corrodiasi like this one, too
09:52.05Tem"this one?"
09:53.25Corrodiasbuild
09:53.30Temthe one I just posted?
09:53.58Corrodiasyeah
09:55.39JunkHead-Workhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0VZEgrzbccoeRt0h
09:55.43JunkHead-WorkThis is what I came up with.
09:55.49JunkHead-WorkFor a non-pvp build.
09:56.43Temfor a non pvp, I think I'd put those 2 points you have in imp fire blast in playing with fire
09:57.05JunkHead-WorkAh damn I misread that.
09:57.13JunkHead-WorkI thought it only reduced damage to you.
09:57.15JunkHead-WorkGood call.
09:57.25Temand I don't think I'd get impact either
09:57.37Temsince most raid mobs are immune to stun
09:57.41Corrodiashmm
09:57.59JunkHead-WorkFor raiding sure, but for grinding it might come in handy.
09:58.07JunkHead-WorkI guess that is something that'd depend on playstyle.
09:58.22Temoh yeah
09:58.28Temfor grinding it's fricking great
09:58.54JunkHead-WorkBut I see your point about raiding and higher end stuff.
10:04.18Corrodiasyou talk about pvp, but didn't recommend improved fire and frost ward vs other mages
10:05.26amroSomeone shoot me. I spent 2 hours scouring my hard drive for important files and moving them neatly into a single folder in a seperate partition. Then I deleted that partition.
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10:06.19Corrodiasa partition might be recoverable... i don't know what can be done these days
10:06.35amrothat's what I'm trying to do
10:06.36Corrodiasif nothing was modified beyond deleting it from the partition table
10:06.55amroproblem is I created another partition on that space and put stuff in it, so I'm not sure how much will be recoverable
10:07.11amronot to mention I'll have to look through thousands of deleted files I DON'T want
10:07.38amroI'm just hoping the stuff I put in afterwards wasn't written over the old data
10:08.01amrodammit I feel so stupid I rounded it all up just to destroy it, and it's all because of NTFS
10:11.23AnduinLotharformatting to NTFS caused me to delete all my music, videos and games recently
10:11.37AnduinLotharaccidently selected the wrong drive
10:11.57Corrodiaswow.
10:12.20nevcairielow.
10:12.20AnduinLotharya that was painful
10:12.39AnduinLotharon the plus side i have a ton of free hd space now..
10:12.48amrothat's replacable. I deleted 4 years worth of family pictures and videos
10:12.51wobin><
10:13.43Corrodiasi once deleted the presidential voting results for the state of florida
10:13.44AnduinLotharwell, 6 yrs of game saved files and my life time collection of music...  depends on what you value i spose
10:13.47Corrodiasboy was that a mess
10:14.21AnduinLotharnot that i'm saying saved files are more important than pictures.  But i don't think i'd cry too much if i lost my pictures
10:14.31amroAnduinLothar: nobody is going to skin you alive for losing your own stuff, but this stuff isn't mine :(
10:14.39AnduinLothargood point
10:15.10amroto top it off 5 minutes after it happened my mom came looking for pictures from my sister's wedding. I mean, WTF, right away
10:15.17AnduinLotharqq
10:15.29nevcairielheh
10:16.04amro12,000 files recovered, 70% to go. on the bright side, it shows the extension and file size. should make it easier
10:16.33AnduinLotharthat's a lot of files
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10:20.19Corrodiashow much +damage is a mage fresh to 70 going to have, if any of you have some idea?
10:21.10Corrodiasi'm trying to evaluate empowered fireball
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10:25.00Corrodiasi want elemental precision is all...
10:25.53JunkHead-WorkI'm downloading raid videos.:\
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10:28.37KasoWhat's a good level of AP for a blue/heroics geared melee class
10:29.12Corrodiaswell, i think my druid in cat form is around 2000, but i haven't been equipping him particularly well, and haven't gotten anything from a heroic instance yet
10:29.13AnduinLothardepends ont he class i think
10:29.33Corrodiasmaybe 2100
10:29.50Kasohmm interesting
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10:36.27Nom-so painful :(
10:36.34Nom-got him down to 3% and lost half the raid
10:36.39Nom-and failed
10:36.41Corrodiasow
10:36.52Nom-lost both tanks and all the dps right before banish
10:37.01Nom-so when banish happened all that was left was 3 healers
10:37.13Corrodiastoo bad they weren't boomkin
10:38.03Nom-one of the healers was a feral druid
10:38.16Nom-so he tried to kitty scratch, but not enough armor to do that last 3%
10:38.50Nom-our subsequent efforts weren't as good :(
10:38.51Corrodiasooh, no. i would have recommended bear form there.
10:39.15Corrodiasespecially with 2 healers
10:39.34Nom-well two by the time banish was over :(
10:39.51Corrodiasi'm not familiar with the fight, really
10:39.54Nom-that last 3% is a lot of hitpoints tho
10:40.07Nom-like 40k
10:40.42Corrodiaswell, a bear can do it, with healing. a cat can't take the hits.
10:41.37Corrodiasi'm not suggesting he WOULD be successful, just that i'd say bear is more appropriate when you're about to try to dps a boss while it hits you
10:43.18Nom-nope a bear can't do it with anything on his own
10:43.24Nom-coz you need 3 people to tank the beams
10:43.34Corrodiasoh, well, i wouldn't know about that. k.
10:43.50Nom-yeah, and also once the beams pop up he hits for 10k on plate
10:43.55Corrodiasimproved scorch vs elemental precision: go
10:44.26Corrodiaswait, that's a pretty easy comparison...
10:44.40Nom-*sigh* i'm never going to get my epic flying mount
10:45.02AnduinLotharme either
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10:48.10JunkHead-WorkI'm still saving for mine too. Don't feel bad.
10:48.20AnduinLothari gave up saving
10:48.25AnduinLothari'm still gearing
10:48.27JunkHead-WorkI'm gonna start sending my bank 500g at a time.
10:48.31AnduinLothari can't get above 200g
10:48.36JunkHead-WorkSending 1000g isn't working.
10:48.43JunkHead-WorkSince I never get to send anything.:\
10:48.57JunkHead-WorkI will send 500g today.
10:50.17Corrodiashmm, what do you guys spend all this money on?
10:50.44JunkHead-WorkI don't spend much.
10:50.52Corrodiasi admit i was spending 200g a week but i was making a profit of 500g per week, back when there were quests to do and mats to gather
10:50.59JunkHead-WorkI did yesterdaybut that wa sbuying herbs for my up and coming alchemist.:(
10:51.55Corrodiasthese days i seem to spend almost nothing except a repair bill here and there
10:52.26AnduinLotharenchants & gems eat my $
10:52.28JunkHead-WorkSame here usually.
10:52.33JunkHead-WorkRepairs, potions and stuff.
10:52.38AnduinLotharand consumables
10:52.54AnduinLotharand heroic repairs where we dont get anythign but shards for loot
10:52.58JunkHead-WorkI finally got some new solo quests though.
10:53.05JunkHead-WorkI should be able to make some change from those.
10:53.56JunkHead-WorkIn fact, taht's what I'm gonna do today. Netehrstorm Quests. My mage can wait another day or so.
10:54.47Nom-lol raid consumeables are the main expense point
10:55.11Nom-I normally have enough time to grind gold just for raid consumeables and nothing else
10:55.17Corrodiasah, yes... my herbalism feeds that habit pretty well
10:56.12Nom-yeah, i didn't get a chance to farm herbs this week
10:56.19Nom-so i ended up having to buy all my consumeables
10:56.28Nom-not to mention i just gemmed up a new helmet
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10:56.53KasoHow come every time i remove my second chat log it re appears when i relog :<
10:57.49Corrodiasno idea
10:59.06Corrodiasi need to go to bed now. 'ni
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12:47.16NizzaHi there, for some reason the backdrop of my frame is stuck above the frame itself... Any ideas on why?
12:47.46leethal"above the frame itself"?
12:48.46Nizzayeah... don't know how to explain it... the frame is draggable, but when I click on the backdrop and try to drag it, it doesn't move...
12:49.03Nizzabut the gray area beneath it, that's where my bars show up and I'm able to drag around...
12:49.40Nizzabut the backdrop moves around with the gray area...
12:49.53NizzaIt's just stuck above it... so to speak..
12:51.28leethalwtb screenshots/code samples/etc
12:51.49Nizzajust a sec
12:55.05Nizzahave to resize it...
12:56.51Nizzahttp://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=498749
12:58.22NizzaKinda weird I think...
12:59.03KasoIm conviced the Primal Mans for Holy Prot Potion are a typeo or something
12:59.36NizzaWhat about the Druid Car form?
12:59.48Nizzaas noted on the tier 4 4 piece set...
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13:02.08Nizzathey seem to have fixed that one...
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13:02.26Nizzaleethal - any ideas?
13:02.55leethalNizza: code please =)
13:03.02Nizzaokies
13:03.46leethalare you using Lua or XML to make the frame?
13:04.04leethalif you're using XML, count me out - no idea how that stuff works
13:04.07Nizzawell, xml creates the frame, but it contains nothing...
13:04.19NizzaIt's just like a place holder...
13:04.29Nizzabut I'm modifying the frame in lua
13:06.35Nizzahttp://wowi.pastey.net/19014
13:08.20leethalyou registered all those frames for dragging?
13:08.28Nizzayes
13:08.49leethalfoo:SetMovable(true)?
13:09.04leethaland what about the OnClick events?
13:09.08leethalerr
13:09.11leethalOnMouseUp
13:09.14leethaland OnMouseDown
13:09.31NizzaIt moves around ok, sort of... When I move the gray area as you could see in the screenie, the backdrop moves around with it... it just stays above the actual frame...
13:10.47NizzaI did not use the SetMovable function, it's toggled as movable in the xml
13:10.53leethalnot that
13:10.58leethalthe OnMouseUp and OnMouseDown part
13:12.08NizzaThose are done in lua
13:12.18NizzaButton:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function() if arg1 == "LeftButton" then this.isMoving = true; this.owner:StartMoving() end end)
13:12.18NizzaButton:SetScript("OnMouseUp", function() if arg1 == "LeftButton" then this.isMoving = false; this.owner:StopMoving() end end)
13:14.25leethalno idea
13:14.28leethalI r no pr00
13:15.32NizzaI think I have it...
13:15.56NizzaI never was moving the frame itself.. I was moving the buttons... and I think they just have wrong relative points...
13:16.44leethal"this" is going to be deprecated, by the way
13:16.48leethalso use self
13:16.54Nizzarighto
13:17.00leethals/is going to be/is/
13:17.33Nizza? Me no comprende
13:18.02leethalit's perl, I think
13:18.08Nizzaah
13:18.24leethal"foo lol bar" - s/foo/cheese/ - "cheese lol bar"
13:19.25Nizzaah, I get it now... You mean it already is deprecated :P  
13:20.29leethalyep =)
13:20.39Nizza<-- Feels smart
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13:22.28nevcairielis purl lazy again?
13:22.33nevcairiel~botsnack
13:22.33purlnevcairiel: aw, gee
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13:47.00Vangualhmm, does dongle have some kinda central point of maintenance to download the latest from? the wowwiki page for it has no link
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13:47.52clad|sleepas a developer or a user?
13:48.28Vangualfor developers that might start to use it
13:48.37Industrialusers dont have to update -right?
13:48.41cladhairenope,
13:48.45cladhairebut some "try" to, which is why i askl
13:48.51cladhaireVangual: you can join #dongle
13:49.04cladhairebut the latest tagged version on the svn is the most recent release
13:49.12cladhairehttp://dongle.googlecode.com/svn/tags
13:49.24Vangualah ok
13:49.31cladhairein this case, Dongle-1.0-r324
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14:16.18JoshBorkemorning Cair bear
14:16.31JoshBorkeaw, was it something i said?
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14:17.53zenzelezzstop scaring the poor girl, Josh
14:21.11Cairennheh
14:35.54KasoYou've gotta ask yourself how much blizzard mucked up the metagem stuff when at meta-slot puts me off an item
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14:48.31foxlitMeh, wtb pallypower communication docs
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15:10.52Kasofoxlit docs are for the weak! gogo dissect that protocol yourself
15:13.42KirkburnAnyone know what ItemTextFrame.xml is used for?
15:15.31KasoIts for when you have <Right click to read> items iirc
15:17.54KirkburnAh, for the page that comes up when you read it?
15:18.16Kasoyah
15:18.37KirkburnUses the font Morpheus apparently, I must investigate!
15:19.31Kasogo buy a cheap libram off the ah or something
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16:00.10foxlitWould it kill Blizzard to deprecate <Offset> in favour of <Anchor offsx="" offsy=""?
16:00.47leethalit won't kill you if you start using Lua instead of xml =P
16:01.01foxlitNow why would I want to do that?
16:01.19leethalthat's up to you
16:02.00foxlitLUA for generating frames of any reasonable level of complexity is ugly
16:02.36leethalwrong
16:02.47leethalLua for generating frames of any reasonable level of complexity is nice
16:02.56leethalhah!
16:03.21foxlit:SetBackdrop()?
16:03.32leethalyes, that's a nice one
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16:03.46Kirkburnfoxlit, don't forget it's Lua not LUA =)
16:04.15foxlitLunatic Unit Assembly?
16:04.20foxlit:)
16:06.15foxlitLong story short, I like using XML for describing frames - you can both validate it, and templates are native rather than function-based.
16:06.34foxlitstrike both :/
16:08.15foxlitIt just gets a bit longwinded sometimes. :(
16:08.34JoshBorketo each his own i say
16:10.13leethalwtb lua.org
16:10.49foxlitAnything specific?
16:10.56leethaltrying to figure out how to include files
16:11.58foxlitI don't think you can.
16:11.59leethalwanna write some tests for this addon of mine, and I need to get the addon itself included
16:11.59leethalI remember something about io.include
16:11.59leethalio.include() even
16:12.02leethaldoes someone have an example of a tested addon somewhere?
16:12.11leethalhow does wow include files then? =/
16:12.16foxlit.toc
16:12.30foxlitAll .lua files listed there are loaded by wow
16:12.43foxlitOr you can use XML's <Script file="meh.lua"/>
16:12.44leethalso there's no way to include files in Lua? are you liek kidding?
16:12.53zenzelezzinclude how?
16:13.16leethalI have this interface/addons/myaddon/tests/mytestfile.lua
16:13.31leethaland I need to get the functions etc from the addon itself included into that mytestfile.lua, so that I can test it
16:13.31Finyou can only include files that are specified in the .toc
16:13.43leethalthis is not for wow...
16:13.48Finthe file doesn't have to exist, and if it doesn't it won't result in an error (directly)
16:13.53leethalit's for running the file with the lua binary as a lua script
16:14.08leethalthe file = the test
16:14.19foxlitio.read, runscript?
16:14.27leethalno idea, that's why I'm asking
16:14.27Finthis is probably not what you're looking for, but you could try WoWBench
16:14.40Finhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench
16:14.44leethalFin: it's not for benchmarking, it's for testing
16:15.01Finread the page first
16:15.03leethalbut thanks anyway =)
16:15.36Fin"WoWBench aims to be a near-complete emulation of the World of Warcraft API."
16:15.52leethalinteresting, but I want to write my own tests
16:16.04leethalanyway, I'll wait 'till lua.org is back up
16:16.05Finwell, it just emulates the WoW environment
16:16.16Finwhat is it that you need from lua.org?
16:16.30leethalthe docs
16:17.06Finhttp://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/
16:17.09Finhttp://pgl.yoyo.org/luai/i/file
16:17.29leethalyay
16:20.13leethalthe WoWBench version is 1.12 - is that a coincidence, or does that mean it's not compatible with 2.0?
16:21.31FinI don't know for certain, I've never done more than read a bit about WoWBench, but I've been assured that it should work with the current version of WoW
16:22.01leethalcoolz, it's a great idea
16:22.05JoshBorkeleethal: means it's not 2.0 compat
16:22.24JoshBorkeor i guess it is
16:22.25JoshBorkejust try it
16:22.28leethalhaving to find a level 71-72 mob, bring a healer and bash on it for 20 mins to get a taunt resisted sucks
16:23.10zenzelezzfake it
16:23.13FinJoshBorke: that's what I thought, but I was told by someone very clever that there should be no problems with WoW 2.0
16:23.13JoshBorkewhy do you need to do all that?  why not pass your function the information?
16:23.31Kasoleethal there are 73 mobs in blade's edge
16:23.45zenzelezzeven so, faking it is easier
16:24.01Kasothat is also true
16:24.31leethalya, that's why I want to write tests =P
16:24.58leethaloutside-of-the-game programatic tests, so that I don't even have to launch wow to test it
16:25.01leethalTDD for the win
16:25.24zenzelezzTDD?
16:25.30leethaltest driven development
16:25.31Finreally does sound like WoWBench is what you're looking for then, from what I know of it
16:25.56foxlitGet it right the first time!
16:26.13zenzelezzI find it funny how some of the trash after Curator can dodge Taunt
16:26.22Fin*dodge* taunt?
16:26.25zenzelezzyes
16:26.28leethalthat's not possible..?
16:26.34zenzelezzmost mobs don't
16:26.35leethala taunt is a spell
16:26.36Finhuh
16:26.43zenzelezzbut some after Curator do
16:26.57zenzelezzthink it's the big elementals with the small fish
16:26.59leethal"Your Taunt was dodged by The Silly Mob."?
16:27.07zenzelezzyes
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17:06.12Industriallocal a = CreateFrame('Frame', nil, UIParent)
17:06.23Industriallocal g = getfenv(0)
17:06.28Industrialg['foo'] = a
17:06.45IndustrialChatFrame1:AddMessage(goo:GetName())
17:06.55Shirikfoo*
17:06.56Industrialwill that work? caise I dont see a :SetName :P
17:07.01Shiriknot really
17:07.05Shirikyou never gave it a name
17:07.16Shirikits name isn't dependent upon the variable name
17:07.25Shirikit's created with either SetName or CreateFrame
17:07.38Industrial"cause I dont see a SetName"
17:07.52Industrialat least not here http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API
17:07.58wereHamsterlocal a = CreateFrame('Frame', 'TheFrameName', UIParent)
17:08.05IndustrialI cant do it in there
17:08.14Shirikyeah, see wereHamster
17:08.20ShirikI didn't know if SetName existed :P
17:08.24Shirikbut you give it a name in CreateFrame
17:08.49Industrialhttp://pastey.net/19121
17:09.08JoshBorkeyou could try creating another global reference to it
17:09.29JoshBorkethough i guess that wouldn't work
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17:09.41Industrialthis uses classlib http://luaforge.net/projects/luamiclasses/
17:10.13Industrialwhy? :3
17:10.35Shirikglobal namespace
17:11.13Industrialoh, doh. ill use self there
17:11.40Shirikoh yeah
17:11.43Shirikwhere did b come from?
17:12.07Industrialb should be self, but im not even at that point yet
17:12.08Industrial:P
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17:12.26JunkHeadMorning.
17:13.09ShirikIndustrial, I really meant I'd prefer seeing something like (self.texture2 or self.NormalTexture):SetAlpha(0)
17:13.29Shirik(or b, in your case)
17:14.28IndustrialShirik: but they are buttons, I dont think self.NormalTexture exists
17:14.42Shirikyou make it exist :P
17:14.53Industrialgah
17:15.06Industrialnot like this is being called in an onupdate for 40 buttons
17:15.13Industrial:P
17:15.18Shirikself.NormalTexture = CreateFrame('Button', self:GetName()..'NormalTexture', self)
17:15.21ShirikYeah it's ok :)
17:15.52Industrialanyway I tried "g['zButton'..id] = self" in Button:__init()
17:15.56Industrialno worky :(
17:16.58Shirikwhere?
17:17.00IndustrialIt errors in FrameXML\ActionButton.lua in ActionButton_OnUpdate() at "local icon = getglobal(this:GetName().."Icon");"
17:17.01Shirikand to do what?
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17:20.40Industrial</3 lua atm :(
17:21.21zenzelezzdon't blame Lua for your own shortcomings
17:22.13Industrialfeh
17:22.21Industrialzenzelezz: do you know the answer?
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17:22.35zenzelezzyou haven't asked a question
17:22.56IndustrialI did dscribe the problem
17:23.05Industrialrephrase,; Can you solve this problem?
17:23.30zenzelezzI haven't read what you're trying to do, so no
17:23.50Industrial... thanks :|
17:24.05KasoIndustrial: we'relua programmers! its ~<3 !
17:26.03Shiriklol
17:27.09zenzelezzall I saw was something about unnamed frames, and if that was causing problems I wouldn't go blaming Lua
17:27.17zenzelezzbut again, it was TLDR
17:27.54foxlitCreate the frame with a name to begin with?
17:28.27foxlitHijack GetName() to return what you want?
17:28.42Industrialyou win
17:28.46Industriallets try that
17:29.38Corrodiasmaybe there's a SetName
17:29.46Corrodiasif not, yeah, frame:GetName() = function whatever
17:30.46Corrodiasto keep a frame from displaying itself once i had to set its Show() to an empty function
17:31.10foxlitMeh, OnShow = self.Hide()!
17:31.23CorrodiasOnHide = self.Show()!
17:31.31Corrodiasand watch the fun ensue!
17:31.40IndustrialSetScript('OnShow', this.Hide)
17:31.50foxlitI wonder, Cor!
17:32.41foxlitC stack overflow
17:34.07foxlitIt's not fatal, at least
17:34.08foxlitAnd there's a delay between :Show() and OnShow, probably a render frame
17:37.40Kirkburnhuh ... anyone else having problems logging onto EU realms?
17:37.47IndustrialI cant see the code of CreateFrame() right?
17:37.53IndustrialI wanna see what happens with the name ;\
17:38.02IndustrialKirkburn: nope
17:38.29KirkburnAh, it was just one realm for a few minutes
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18:56.59IndustrialSo I dropped the whole class part
18:57.01Industrialhttp://i19.tinypic.com/4qsxix3.jpg
18:57.06Industrialkinda secks? :D
18:57.07YammYgirlcodinghello everyone! \o
18:57.23YammYgirlcodingguys. Can I use any macro to equip more than one item at once?
18:58.51Finno, but you can have a macro that equips more than one item if you keep running it
18:59.05YammYgirlcodinghow do I do this?
18:59.19YammYgirlcodingu mean like clicking it many times?
18:59.23Finyes
18:59.28YammYgirlcodingoh that sux
18:59.29FinI think you can, anyway
18:59.38YammYgirlcodingI'd like to click once :)
18:59.46Finyou can only perform one action per macro
19:00.09YammYgirlcoding:((((
19:00.11Finer, one action for each time the macro is run, I mean
19:00.21YammYgirlcodinghmm any addon then ?
19:00.23leethaluse ItemRack
19:00.27leethalworks like a dream
19:00.31FinItemRack, Closetgnome
19:00.47YammYgirlcodingoh i will try it :D ty
19:00.59Finsome of my dreams are pretty fucked up dude, I'm not sure I want addons working like that
19:01.02Fin;P
19:02.30Industriallol
19:02.45leethalhaha
19:02.52leethallet's make an addon that works like a dream
19:03.15leethallet's start with forking CT_RA, sounds like a good starting point
19:03.20Finnot that one with the chocolate hot air balloon, that scares me
19:05.10Industrialfuturepop version \o/
19:07.40KirkburnIndustrial, it's amazing how minimalist your UIs are
19:08.30Industrial:-)
19:08.48IndustrialThanks. I tchanges every day tho
19:09.54KirkburnDo you know what it'll look like the next day? Or do you have a "Surprise Me!" button?
19:10.02leethalIndustrial: how do you live without a chat frame?
19:10.16IndustrialI dont, look closely
19:10.19Industrial=D
19:10.35leethalIndustrial: every time I create a minimalist UI (read: every time I create an UI), the chat frame is what removes the minimalism-ish-ness from it
19:10.45leethalaw, cute
19:11.14leethalI need liek 2x12 more action bars, though
19:11.43Industrialyou see 6 buttons, but theres 12 slots
19:12.01IndustrialI just use 6 :P
19:12.57IndustrialKirkburn: Nah I have something im working towards, but it includes addons that havent been written yet (thatother people will make/are making) like oUF
19:13.03Industrialand im now gunna fit in pRaid
19:14.54Kirkburnwoot
19:15.21KasoCan you focus onto a target from scripts?
19:16.13Industrialonly 'saf'e with macros afaik
19:16.43Kaso'saf'e
19:16.46Kaso?
19:17.48leethalIndustrial: http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5206/uiyl2.jpg
19:17.54leethalzomg no blurred chat </care>
19:18.18IndustrialKaso: 'safe'
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19:18.39Kasowhat makes it unsafe from doing the from scripts?
19:19.48Industrialleethal: yeah I see what you mean :)
19:20.24leethalIndustrial: I wish I could make ktm into a single number displaying my current TPS, that's all I need it for
19:22.03YammYgirlcodinghmm I tried to install ItemRack to test it. But i can't figure it out what to do. I click on a bag item or move to itemrack window, but nothing happens
19:22.19YammYgirlcodingdoes anyone use it over there?
19:22.39leethalYammYgirlcoding: don't use it via the bag
19:22.47leethalYammYgirlcoding: the ItemRack GUI itself does everything
19:22.53leethalYammYgirlcoding: click a slot and you'll see
19:23.34YammYgirlcodingi click a slot. it shows next to it the many x heads i have. but nothing happens. I click one, nothing.
19:24.48YammYgirlcodingError:  Usage: GetContainerItemInfo(index, slot)AddOn: SupportFuncsFile: SupportFuncs.luaLine: 11
19:24.55YammYgirlcodingit does error
19:25.01leethalpwnd
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21:04.28foxlitNumbers are evil!
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21:08.04Mr_Rabies2NOU
21:08.17Mr_Rabies2that wasn't supposed to be caps :x
21:08.25Mr_Rabies2i guess it works though, more anger in it
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21:17.09Corrodiasi just want you all to know how FUN the epic flying mounts are
21:17.12Corrodiasvery.
21:17.23Paradoxumanyone here know the 'name' of the gatherer minimap icon? so I can type /move GathererMinimapIcon or something to move the icon around my UI away from the minimap?
21:17.44Corrodiasno, but you can try ...
21:18.09CorrodiasDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Current frame: "..tempframe:GetName());
21:18.17Corrodiasoh and tempframe is..
21:18.19foxlitGetMouseFocus()
21:18.23Corrodiasgetmousefyeahthat'sit
21:18.29foxlitGet devtools, use /dtframestack
21:18.35foxlitWhen you want to know what th ename of something is.
21:19.09Corrodiaswell, that'll show you all the frames under the mouse, not just the one that will receive a click
21:19.11Paradoxumwell this MoveAnything addon I have has that function
21:19.16Paradoxumbut it doesn't seem to work with Gatherer
21:19.26Paradoxumwhen I hover the mouse over it, shows nothing as if it's not there
21:19.47Paradoxumwhich is why i'm trying to find out the name to just /move it
21:19.57foxlitMaybe it's anonymous!
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21:22.55AnduinLotharGathererUI_IconFrame
21:23.18Paradoxumthank you
21:23.59Paradoxum"Is not a valid frame name"
21:24.22AnduinLotharmight have been changed recently
21:35.16Paradoxumhow can I find out what it is?
21:35.21Paradoxumdoes the dev talk in here?
21:36.04AnduinLotharyes, but it's probably not named, so you wont be able to move it with MoveAnything. did you try just dragging it?
21:36.24ParadoxumI can only drag it around the minimap
21:36.35ParadoxumI want to put it somewhere else (my ui is highly customized)
21:42.30EsamynnCairenn: pong
21:42.57Cairennminimap*
21:46.01JoshBorkehi cair bear :-)
21:46.50Cairennhi joshywoshy :p
21:46.58JoshBorke:-(
21:47.18Esamynnthe frame is anonymous atm, i'm going to give it a name before release
21:47.19Cairenn?
21:47.25JoshBorkedon't like being called joshy =P
21:47.56JoshBorkelol
21:48.12Cairennso, you don't call me cair bear, I don't call you joshywoshy
21:48.19JoshBorkesounds like a plan
21:48.26Mr_Rabies2okay seriously someone lend me like 200g :argh:
21:48.26Cairennindeed
21:48.28ThraeAh Cairenn and JoshBorke. I believe JoshBorke professed his love for you earlier this week...
21:48.41Cairennhe professes my love for me all the time
21:48.54CairennI believe that was in the wiki channel, this time round, wasn't it?
21:49.17JoshBorkenuh uh!  dongle!
21:49.19ThraeCairenn: Are you talking about how much you love yourself?
21:49.32Cairennalthough apparently he only loves me Cairenn|afk - so like many people, he only loves me when I'm not actually here ;)
21:49.40JoshBorkeexactly
21:49.47Cairennahhh, was it dongle? hard keeping them all straight by times
21:49.59ThraeHeh, you must log everything anyone says with your nick in it.
21:50.35ThraeI didn't know Gaim had that feature. You're also set to "Away" status too.
21:50.39Cairenngaim highlights when my name is said - if I'm afk, I check back through to find out why my name was said, in case someone needed something
21:50.44Cairennyeah, I know
21:50.45ThraeAh.
21:51.10ThraeYou should use a real IRC client w/ scripting power. I have my own awaylog w/ irssi.
21:51.29Cairennbeen actually trying to *gasp* get some play time in, so I just left myself as afk, even though I'm actually here
21:51.41ThraeOf course to run irssi, you would probably need to download cygwin or whatnot...
21:51.44JoshBorkeplay time is over-rated
21:51.51Cairenngaim suffices
21:51.54ThraeAddon authors don't actually -play- the game!
21:52.02ThraeWe just code for it, blindly.
21:52.13Cairennplaying LotRO :p
21:52.17ThraeAhhhhh.
21:52.25ThraeIts interface customization any good? :D
21:52.31Cairennmeh
21:52.39Cairennskinning of existing graphics only, atm
21:52.50ThraeNo lotrointerface.com then? Hehe.
21:52.57Elkanoso born to fail? ^^
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21:52.58Cairennwhy wouldn't there be?
21:53.13Cairennhttp://www.lotrointerface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=588&postcount=5
21:53.18ThraeHaha.
21:53.36Cairennis the thread about where the interface currently is, and where it is going as the game matures
21:53.52Cairennor rather, that's probably the best post - there are lots of others
21:54.02Paradoxumso I can't move the icon now because it has no name?
21:54.14Paradoxumis there any quick/easy way for me to name it or will I have to wait for a new version?
21:54.46Esamynnyou'll have to wait
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22:11.12zenzelezzdamnit, I put a Coke in the freezer at 10, and then by chance discovered a two-hour programme on Discovery about Chernobyl... now I have dinner and Cola-slush
22:11.25batricklol
22:11.31batricki hate it when that happens : /
22:13.01AnduinLotharI <3 Cola-slushy
22:14.04zenzelezzdepends on the slushiness... right now I get half a mouthful and then it blocks the flow out of the bottle
22:14.18AnduinLotharbottle >.<
22:14.19Industrialhmm
22:14.34AnduinLotharsposed to freeze it in a can and then cut the can open and pour it into a glass
22:19.05zenzelezzthey don't usually sell Cola in cans in the regular stores around here; if they did I'd get those instead
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22:24.26Cairennfoob!
22:24.39zenzelezzmy cat is trying to convince me she hasn't gotten any food today... but isn't making a very good attempt, standing next to her half-ful bowl
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22:26.54JoshBorkeboob?
22:27.08zenzelezzno boob for you
22:28.25foxlitCats everywhere do that!
22:29.41zenzelezzjust for you Josh_Borke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booby
22:30.30zenzelezzwhy does my tab completion always pick the wrong Josh...
22:32.40AnduinLotharhttp://exhalted.ytmnd.com/
22:33.23zenzelezzlol
22:40.36wobinhm
22:40.38wobinif you want booby
22:40.45wobinyou should watch Curse of the Golden Flower
22:40.48wobinit's full of booby
22:50.10TainI liked that movie.
22:50.42TainIt wasn't the ending that I expected.  But I enjoyed the movie a lot.
23:09.55wobinaye
23:10.07wobinwell, all those movies aren't known for their happy endings
23:10.13wobinthey're more tragedies than anything else
23:10.24wobinthat's what makes good drama =)
23:10.48wobinAlthough I kept expecting the empress to pull a rabbit out of her hat at the last moment
23:10.53wobinbut that's my American movie upbringing
23:13.18wobin(ps, every time I see batrick's nick, I think Batroc (ze leaper!))
23:21.17zenzelezzI hate <Backdrop>/edgefiles
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23:27.28KirkburnAnduinLothar, lol, awesome
23:29.02Kirkburnhttp://whatisrlrlrlgh.ytmnd.com/
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