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| 00:00.42 | MrTorture | Hello people. |
| 00:00.47 | Josh_Borke | Hello |
| 00:00.49 | Shirik | Rawr! |
| 00:01.28 | MrTorture | Anyone here do alot of stuff with WoW addons and stuff? |
| 00:01.46 | Shirik | that's all this channel's about ;) |
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| 00:02.10 | MrTorture | I was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me how to make a skin. |
| 00:02.44 | Industrial | How can I make a portal again? |
| 00:02.56 | Industrial | mr torture sell pain |
| 00:02.58 | Industrial | to the housewives |
| 00:03.00 | Industrial | in spain |
| 00:03.03 | Shirik | well and an outlet for a few of us to flirt with Cairenn |
| 00:03.03 | Shirik | but don't concern yourself with that |
| 00:03.07 | Industrial | nanana na na na mr turture! |
| 00:03.26 | Industrial | god whats that from again |
| 00:03.29 | Cairenn | on WoWI? |
| 00:03.29 | Shirik | MrTorture: You would use TGA files |
| 00:03.33 | Industrial | um |
| 00:03.35 | MrTorture | Helloween song |
| 00:03.37 | Industrial | Cairenn: yes please :D |
| 00:03.40 | Industrial | yeah helloween! |
| 00:03.48 | clad|afk | Industrial: User CP i believe |
| 00:04.03 | Shirik | I would make a portal, but Cidan controls RDX.Cid so I have no addons to my name :P |
| 00:04.03 | Cairenn | front page, left side menu, should be an option to enable |
| 00:04.09 | MrTorture | Shirik: Ya I was just wondering whre I would put the File or anything? |
| 00:04.19 | Shirik | Well, you can't do it with just a TGA file |
| 00:04.29 | Shirik | you'll have to write an addon to handle it (or use one that exists, such as Discord Art) |
| 00:04.53 | Industrial | kay |
| 00:04.56 | Shirik | I believe the easiest thing for you to do would be use Discord Art |
| 00:05.07 | Shirik | Though I can't say how to use it, but I'm pretty sure you can supply TGA files to it |
| 00:05.48 | MrTorture | Alright. |
| 00:06.06 | MrTorture | Is Discord Art located on the site? |
| 00:06.13 | Shirik | I... think so |
| 00:06.18 | Shirik | it's also at discordmods.com |
| 00:06.37 | MrTorture | Ah, thanks. |
| 00:07.19 | Industrial | my My Portal link links back to the homepage |
| 00:08.23 | clad|afk | Industrial: it takes up to 15 minutes for the portal to get created, etc. |
| 00:08.46 | Shirik | wow is that really necessary |
| 00:08.51 | Shirik | "Armor reduced by 1276" |
| 00:08.54 | clad|afk | lol |
| 00:08.59 | Shirik | That puts me at about -800 |
| 00:09.09 | Terrifion | what class do you play shirik |
| 00:09.20 | Shirik | Shirik is a hunter but I don't really play him anymore |
| 00:09.23 | Shirik | I play a priest |
| 00:09.26 | Terrifion | ah |
| 00:09.28 | Terrifion | I play a rogue |
| 00:09.36 | Terrifion | undead on jaedenar |
| 00:09.37 | Terrifion | :D |
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| 00:20.04 | MrTorture | Hey Shirik so I just put the Discord Art into the addon folder? |
| 00:20.05 | Shirik | yup install it like any other addon, but I'll admit I have no idea how to use it |
| 00:20.05 | Shirik | I just know it can do what you want |
| 00:20.05 | MrTorture | Awesome. |
| 00:20.05 | MrTorture | I'll just have to play around with it myself. |
| 00:20.07 | TC-Working | discord is good stuff |
| 00:20.07 | Industrial | thats what she said |
| 00:20.07 | Industrial | there we go again |
| 00:20.08 | Industrial | :D |
| 00:20.08 | Legorol | morning |
| 00:20.08 | Shirik | morning |
| 00:20.09 | TC-Working | ~sigh Industrial |
| 00:20.40 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Industrial!" |
| 00:20.40 | Industrial | TC-Working: that was at MrTorture |
| 00:20.40 | TC-Working | i know |
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| 00:20.42 | TC-Working | purl, poke |
| 00:20.47 | TC-Working | meh |
| 00:21.49 | Shirik | WOW |
| 00:21.49 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:21.49 | Industrial | zomg |
| 00:21.49 | TC-Working | heh, serious lag |
| 00:22.23 | Karrion | so here's a question: has anyone ever had the Opera event change between pulls? |
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| 00:23.46 | clad|afk | no |
| 00:24.25 | zenzelezz | Moroes' adds change occasionally, but can't remember if Opera does |
| 00:24.33 | Karrion | ours did last night... came as something of a surprise |
| 00:24.43 | Karrion | I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to change |
| 00:25.24 | pastamancer | I had opera chance once after being out of the instance overnight but figured it was a fluke |
| 00:25.26 | Garoun | yuck to being 30 in about 10 hours :/ |
| 00:27.27 | Garoun | lucky :P |
| 00:27.30 | Karrion | happy birthdays ;-) |
| 00:27.34 | Garoun | still have a year before it all goes down hill hehe |
| 00:27.42 | Garoun | Indy does that is |
| 00:27.49 | Industrial | :(? |
| 00:27.51 | TC-Working | 31 is down hill? |
| 00:28.11 | TC-Working | or did you mean 21? |
| 00:28.16 | Industrial | why didnt anyone tell me about that? :(? |
| 00:28.43 | Garoun | I mean 21 :) |
| 00:28.51 | Industrial | thats what she said |
| 00:28.53 | Industrial | WOOOO |
| 00:29.08 | Industrial | (see, i really am 20) |
| 00:29.11 | Garoun | I personally started falling apart about 6 months ago :P stupid turning old |
| 00:29.12 | MrTorture | Shirik are you still there? |
| 00:29.42 | Shirik | yup |
| 00:29.42 | Garoun | been to the emergency room twice since last august due to odd dehydration and hypotension.. woot! |
| 00:29.44 | Shirik | sorry, was dying |
| 00:29.53 | MrTorture | No problem |
| 00:29.56 | TC-Working | GG Garoun, you win |
| 00:30.00 | zenzelezz | how do warlock pets work... do you need to level them like hunter pets? |
| 00:30.15 | Shirik | iirc warlock pets are equal to the warlock's level at time of summon |
| 00:30.22 | MrTorture | I was just wondering if there is another else like Discord... cause I went and got it and its saying Incompatible. |
| 00:30.22 | Garoun | in this case TC, I'd rather be dead last :P |
| 00:30.30 | zenzelezz | oh wait, I made the assumption that a level 27 wouldn't be in Shattrath... I was wrong |
| 00:30.37 | Shirik | MrTorture where did you get it from? |
| 00:30.52 | TC-Working | bad pun |
| 00:30.59 | Garoun | there was a lvl 1 outside Hellfire Citadel the otherday :) |
| 00:31.24 | MrTorture | I got it from WoW interface... but its the same version as the Discordmods.com |
| 00:31.41 | Shirik | I'm fairly certain they've updated that :/ |
| 00:32.04 | TC-Working | but my statement should have been encapsulated in sarcasm |
| 00:32.12 | MrTorture | Hmm I'll try the one on the main site and see if its the same. |
| 00:32.17 | TC-Working | i'm still used to talking to people in person |
| 00:32.17 | Garoun | I'm slow, TC, it's been a long day |
| 00:32.23 | TC-Working | or vocaly at least |
| 00:32.32 | Garoun | just got home from work about 15min ago |
| 00:32.36 | TC-Working | heh, no that was my bad |
| 00:32.42 | TC-Working | i'm still there :( |
| 00:32.49 | Shirik | MrTorture, to answer your question, no I don't know of anything else like it |
| 00:33.30 | MrTorture | Aww |
| 00:33.30 | Garoun | luckily only a 9hr day for me, but I have 2 production roles and a testing deadline tomorrow... great b'day present right lol |
| 00:33.41 | MrTorture | Okay well it doesn't work I geuss =/ |
| 00:33.44 | Garoun | roles/rolls |
| 00:33.53 | TC-Working | heh |
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| 00:33.58 | MrTorture | Does anyone else in here know if there is another addon like Discord Art? |
| 00:34.26 | Garoun | certainly not one that easy to use |
| 00:34.37 | TC-Working | DUB...but it isnt done yet |
| 00:34.59 | Garoun | and I don't think oskin will do anything near what you may be planning :P |
| 00:35.00 | Shirik | TC-Working he means functionally like Discord Art |
| 00:35.15 | Shirik | oh wait, I misread that |
| 00:35.17 | TC-Working | i know...i'm just an asshole |
| 00:35.24 | Shirik | what's DUB? |
| 00:35.47 | TC-Working | Discor UI Builder |
| 00:35.47 | Shirik | ah |
| 00:35.47 | TC-Working | Discord* |
| 00:35.50 | TC-Working | it's the 2.0 version of all Discord mods |
| 00:35.59 | TC-Working | exept for GB |
| 00:36.06 | MrTorture | oooo |
| 00:36.22 | MrTorture | Where can I find DUB? |
| 00:36.45 | TC-Working | it's still in alpha/beta but you can find it at www.discordmods.com |
| 00:37.00 | TC-Working | on one of the general forum posts |
| 00:37.14 | TC-Working | hmm...loz may have come back from vacation and worked some more on it |
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| 00:41.17 | Shirik | so like, I'm trying to figure this one out |
| 00:41.17 | Shirik | Shadow Reach says "Increases the range of your offensive shadow spells by 10%" |
| 00:41.18 | Shirik | And this is as opposed to your defensive shadow spells? |
| 00:41.44 | TC-Working | yes |
| 00:41.44 | Shirik | ok... what is a defensive shadow spell? |
| 00:41.44 | TC-Working | one that you dont have |
| 00:42.08 | TC-Working | i presume that worded it that way to cover their asses |
| 00:42.31 | Shirik | it doesn't matter it's just something that caught my attention |
| 00:42.34 | TC-Working | on the presumption that they *may* put in a non offensife shadow spell |
| 00:42.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | hex of weakness |
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| 00:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 00:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's self only |
| 00:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | so range isn't necessary |
| 00:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 00:43.41 | Shirik | touch of weakness :P |
| 00:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | er wait, i was thinking shadowguard |
| 00:43.41 | Shirik | and yeah, that's a self-cast spell, so its range is 0 |
| 00:43.41 | TC-Working | eh, are we talking priest or lock? |
| 00:43.42 | Shirik | priest |
| 00:43.42 | TC-Working | yea, i cant think of anything offhand |
| 00:43.45 | Shirik | Only things I could think of are fade and touch of weakness, both of which are self-cast |
| 00:44.38 | MrTorture | TC : Where on the site do I find DUB cause I grabbed the beta version of Discord and it still didn;t work. |
| 00:44.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | shadow protection |
| 00:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | is a defensive shadow spell |
| 00:44.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 00:44.45 | MrTorture | didn't** |
| 00:44.59 | Shirik | hm |
| 00:45.04 | Shirik | ok |
| 00:45.14 | Shirik | I am satisfiedn ow |
| 00:45.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's it though |
| 00:45.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | afaik |
| 00:45.24 | TC-Working | i'm not sure if they have a working version of DUB |
| 00:45.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of discord |
| 00:45.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want my damn groupbuttons |
| 00:45.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 00:45.55 | Shirik | groupbuttons? |
| 00:46.00 | TC-Working | there are a few replacements Mr_Rabies2 |
| 00:46.06 | TC-Working | i know, i love them also |
| 00:46.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | none that work like it groupbuttons from what i've seen |
| 00:46.17 | Shirik | what do they do? |
| 00:46.24 | TC-Working | some are getting close |
| 00:46.37 | TC-Working | MrTorture, try http://www.discordmods.com/DUB.zip |
| 00:46.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're a custom set of action buttons for specific targets |
| 00:47.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | self, party members, foe target, friendly target |
| 00:47.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | pets |
| 00:47.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | etc, |
| 00:47.22 | TC-Working | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6794-eXtremeUnitButtons.html is one |
| 00:47.43 | Shirik | hm |
| 00:47.48 | Thrae | "Those are buttons for each unit...TO THE EXTREME!" |
| 00:47.49 | TC-Working | is another http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6965-UnitButtons.html |
| 00:47.56 | Shirik | you could set up the RDX Assists window to do it, but it's not really what it was intended to do |
| 00:47.58 | Shirik | but it's possible |
| 00:48.21 | TC-Working | and http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6572-UnitFrameActionBars.html is the only other one i know of |
| 00:49.05 | MrTorture | That other link worked TC I'm going to try that now thanks ^_^. |
| 00:49.30 | TC-Working | ok |
| 00:52.37 | TC-Working | yay, 10 min till i get to go home |
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| 01:01.21 | TC-Working | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.07 | Cairenn | later TC-Working |
| 01:11.28 | Industrial | Cairenn: pm |
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| 01:12.31 | Cairenn | Industrial: ? |
| 01:12.56 | Industrial | oh hmm |
| 01:18.03 | Industrial | dolby-wowi: ping |
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| 01:50.54 | Eternally777 | tapio: Issueing the '/combatlog' command in WoW will create a file called 'WoWCombatLog.txt' to be created in the 'World of Warcraft\Logs\' directory. |
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| 01:59.50 | tapio | Eternally777: Thanks. Exactly what I need. :) |
| 02:02.08 | Eternally777 | tapio: '/chatlog' stores your regular chat conversations in a different file in the same directory. No problem. |
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| 02:07.08 | tapio | I tought it would get much more complicated than that. Do any of you know of any wowlinux-channel / community? |
| 02:09.25 | Shirik | here |
| 02:09.33 | Shirik | quite a few people here play wow through wine |
| 02:09.39 | Shirik | including myself |
| 02:09.57 | Tain | Lost is on but I'm afraid to watch it. I know it will let me down. |
| 02:09.59 | tapio | Cool. Trying to install it with cedega atm. I'll try both, see which one works best :> |
| 02:10.58 | tapio | Shirik: Had some problems with the blizzard Downloader though, it totally jammed my whole network for some strange reason. |
| 02:11.06 | Shirik | I didn't bother with that |
| 02:11.31 | Shirik | I go back and forth between windows and linux |
| 02:11.40 | Tain | You're a whore. |
| 02:11.41 | Shirik | so I just get the downloads on the windows side |
| 02:11.46 | Shirik | yes, I am |
| 02:11.47 | tapio | Ah, I see |
| 02:11.49 | Shirik | and proud of it |
| 02:12.02 | Tem|Work | Shirik, how did you pull that off? |
| 02:12.14 | Shirik | copy it over? |
| 02:12.18 | Tem|Work | oh |
| 02:12.30 | Tem|Work | I thought you had them both running the same copy |
| 02:12.33 | Shirik | nah |
| 02:12.38 | Shirik | I tried that and it died quickly |
| 02:12.42 | Tem|Work | how did you copy it over though? |
| 02:12.49 | Shirik | very slowly |
| 02:12.54 | Shirik | cp -r :P |
| 02:13.01 | Tem|Work | no I mean |
| 02:13.08 | Tem|Work | windows filesystem gives linux the finger |
| 02:13.13 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:13.17 | Shirik | I had no trouble |
| 02:13.20 | Shirik | mount NTFS read-only |
| 02:13.31 | Shirik | copy it to my linux partition |
| 02:13.41 | Tain | No, mount NFS. |
| 02:14.09 | Tain | Or use scp. |
| 02:17.41 | Terrifion | if i have a frame and i want to copy its design |
| 02:17.44 | Terrifion | how would I do that |
| 02:17.57 | Terrifion | like duplicate it |
| 02:17.58 | Shirik | cp -r /path/to/addon/folder /my/addon/folder |
| 02:18.26 | Shirik | seriously though, does it have XML? |
| 02:18.38 | Terrifion | ? |
| 02:18.45 | Shirik | oh! |
| 02:18.48 | Shirik | your own frame |
| 02:18.49 | Shirik | you made it |
| 02:18.50 | Terrifion | yeah |
| 02:19.00 | Shirik | Want the real answer? |
| 02:19.10 | Shirik | You should have made it in an object oriented manner :P |
| 02:19.17 | Terrifion | oh shi |
| 02:19.18 | Terrifion | :( |
| 02:19.20 | Shirik | But, the answer for you is basically just do the code again |
| 02:19.32 | Shirik | I mean like |
| 02:19.35 | Terrifion | how would I make it in an object oriented manner |
| 02:19.36 | Shirik | if you have frame = CreateFrame() blah blah |
| 02:19.38 | Shirik | just do that again |
| 02:19.45 | Terrifion | alright |
| 02:19.53 | Terrifion | whats the inherits thing do |
| 02:19.55 | Shirik | there's no real way to "copy" a frame |
| 02:20.14 | Shirik | inherits a template |
| 02:20.33 | Terrifion | yeah I just want the same background |
| 02:20.36 | Terrifion | and border |
| 02:21.25 | Shirik | I'll answer your question about object oriented in a sec ;) |
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| 02:24.09 | Shirik | be warned though, this explanation will include metatables |
| 02:26.22 | Shirik | Wooosh... introducing, RDXM.AssistWindow, one of the many types of frames in RDX! http://wowi.pastey.net/17358 |
| 02:26.34 | Shirik | Notice how at the top, we have a RDXM.AssistWindow:new(), which creates and returns a frame |
| 02:26.38 | Shirik | this frame is the assist window |
| 02:26.51 | Shirik | you can call that as many times as you want, and it creates more and more assists windows |
| 02:27.28 | Shirik | there are three important lines |
| 02:27.37 | Shirik | 5, 6, and 10 |
| 02:28.13 | Shirik | (btw, RDX.Window:new(), for your purposes, can be considered the same as CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 02:28.23 | Shirik | for explanation purposes |
| 02:28.58 | Mikma | monologues ftw <3 |
| 02:29.11 | Shirik | I'm talking to Terrifion, Mikma >< |
| 02:29.18 | Shirik | if he's not paying attention, oh well :P |
| 02:29.26 | Mikma | :D |
| 02:32.16 | Guillotine | Cairenn/some other WoWI admin: Advertisement at http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9683 |
| 02:32.27 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.37 | Mikma | Cairenn: purr |
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| 02:33.40 | Shirik | ~comfort Cairenn |
| 02:33.44 | purl | There, there, Cairenn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 02:35.34 | Guillotine | ~emulate cairenn |
| 02:35.37 | purl | ACTION stealth-bumps a couple threads |
| 02:35.52 | Guillotine | ~emulate cairenn |
| 02:35.55 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 02:36.31 | Terrifion | sorry |
| 02:36.35 | Terrifion | I went to get a sandwich |
| 02:36.42 | Terrifion | :( |
| 02:38.14 | Guillotine | I miss Shouryuu :( He was a good forum troll |
| 02:38.30 | Tem|Work | I miss Potillan |
| 02:42.19 | Mikma | ~tuplad |
| 02:42.23 | purl | http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg |
| 02:56.06 | kahdgarx1 | that's a great game |
| 02:56.36 | Shirik | >>> return SavedVariables.GetRandomArgument("McDonald's", "Wendy's", "Burger King"); |
| 02:56.37 | Cide | Shirik: "Wendy's" |
| 02:56.41 | Shirik | thanks Cide |
| 02:56.46 | Shirik | er |
| 02:56.47 | clad|afk | i love munchkin |
| 02:56.52 | Shirik | did I do that? |
| 02:57.51 | Mikma | propably :) |
| 02:58.30 | Shirik | Sorry Cide!! T_T |
| 02:58.54 | tapio | Shirik: I'm having some troubble with the text on the installer with wine? Do you know how to solve it? |
| 02:59.05 | Shirik | the text? |
| 02:59.10 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:59.16 | Shirik | I didn't even bother with the installer tbh |
| 02:59.16 | tapio | Yea, the "Install now", yadayada |
| 02:59.25 | tapio | can't really see what it sais ^^ |
| 02:59.27 | Shirik | I literally copied from my NTFS partition to my Ext3 one |
| 02:59.35 | tapio | Ah, I see |
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| 02:59.40 | Shirik | since there's no registry entries, it works fine |
| 02:59.49 | tapio | :) |
| 03:00.22 | tapio | cp it over and `wine wow.exe` ? |
| 03:00.27 | Shirik | ayup |
| 03:00.31 | tapio | nice |
| 03:01.25 | tapio | cedega failed at the install. Wonder why I even subscribed for that :p |
| 03:01.30 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:06.48 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 03:06.52 | Shirik | Futurama is awesome... |
| 03:06.59 | Shirik | "Have you got an extra GOTO 10 line? I said go away!" |
| 03:07.00 | Mikma | yes it is :) |
| 03:07.17 | Mikma | i got all the episodes :D |
| 03:07.24 | Guillotine | <3 futurama |
| 03:07.28 | Guillotine | but they show the penguin one too much |
| 03:07.53 | Mikma | whatone? |
| 03:08.06 | Shirik | which one, the one I'm seeing or Guillotine's? |
| 03:08.38 | Mikma | guillotine's |
| 03:08.40 | Guillotine | the one where the tanker spills the dark matter and it makes the penguins breed out of control |
| 03:08.47 | Shirik | ah yeah |
| 03:08.51 | Shirik | night clad|sleep |
| 03:08.56 | Guillotine | its funny, but it seems like they play that one 5 times as much as any others :/ |
| 03:09.40 | Mikma | oh that one |
| 03:10.01 | Mikma | bender doesn't drink alcohol and crashes the tanker |
| 03:10.09 | Guillotine | yup |
| 03:11.42 | clad|sleep | night |
| 03:16.57 | Guillotine | haha, love the quit message |
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| 03:20.05 | [Cu]Werik | Evening |
| 03:24.01 | Mikma | Werik: you're a curse admin? |
| 03:24.10 | Werik | I used to be, whats up? |
| 03:24.45 | Mikma | well "used to be" propably can't help then :P but i was wondering why is this download disabled: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5617/healer-combat-log/ |
| 03:26.13 | Werik | hm |
| 03:28.10 | Werik | It shouldn't be |
| 03:28.53 | kahdgarx1 | while people are alive.. anyone know of an addon that tracks vampiric embrace/touch? |
| 03:29.42 | Mikma | Werik: yeah shouldn't but it is :( |
| 03:29.51 | Werik | Maybe the mirror is down Mikma, the project is fine |
| 03:31.06 | Mikma | Werik: well it's been like that for.. hmm 3-4 days now so i'm not sure what's going on. |
| 03:31.06 | Tem|Work | holy wow |
| 03:31.23 | Tem | it sounds like lightning hit like 100 ft from me |
| 03:31.32 | Tem | but aparently I still have electricity |
| 03:31.35 | Werik | Yeah, I asked our devs but they aren't responding |
| 03:31.36 | Tem | so... |
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| 04:03.04 | tapio | Haha, 50fps whilst spinning the cube with beryl in wow opengl. Why are people even using windows ? :D |
| 04:07.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8672/asdasdqq3.jpg i wish GMs were like this :x |
| 04:09.49 | Iriel | I've had some experiences that come semi-close |
| 04:10.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had somewhat similar stuff, but the kekeke thing kinda makes me think it's fake |
| 04:19.05 | Shirik | asdasd? |
| 04:19.10 | Shirik | do you name all of your pictures this way? |
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| 04:20.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not mine |
| 04:20.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | some link on the forums |
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| 04:20.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i generally keep the filenames |
| 04:20.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | even on imageboards |
| 04:21.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | where filenames will be like |
| 04:21.21 | Cairenn | lol, I used to do _basically_ that when I was stealth bumping something, since I planned on just deleting it again immediately ... asdfasdf, post, delete |
| 04:21.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1177560716.jpg |
| 04:21.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1177551032.png |
| 04:21.42 | Shirik | does that really work Cairenn? |
| 04:21.48 | Shirik | My boards it would put that thread back in line |
| 04:21.52 | Cairenn | it used to, it doesn't any more, then changed it back |
| 04:21.59 | Cairenn | this was on the Blizz UI forum |
| 04:21.59 | Shirik | ah |
| 04:22.06 | Shirik | ah |
| 04:22.16 | Cairenn | errr, they* and -back |
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| 04:55.43 | Eternally777 | >>> collectgarbage('collect'); collectgarbage("stop"); t = {}; gc = collectgarbage('count'); for i=1,1000 do t[i] = i; if gc~=collectgarbage('count') then gc = collectgarbage('count'); print(i..": "..gc); end end |
| 04:56.08 | Eternally777 | Did I do it wrong? |
| 04:56.19 | Eternally777 | Or is Cide not here... |
| 04:57.39 | Shirik | Cide n'est pas ici |
| 04:58.26 | ckknight | >>> "pants" |
| 04:58.35 | ckknight | >>> return "pants" |
| 04:58.38 | ckknight | looks like he's down |
| 04:58.56 | Shirik | ckknight, do you know the difference between gcinfo() and collectgarbage('count') ? |
| 04:59.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:59.12 | ckknight | gcinfo() returns in kilobytes, rounded down |
| 04:59.18 | ckknight | collectgarbage('count') returns in kilobytes, unrounded |
| 04:59.24 | ckknight | use collectgarbage('count') |
| 04:59.26 | Shirik | ok but something's going wierd here |
| 04:59.29 | ckknight | oh? |
| 04:59.40 | Shirik | I just gave Eternally777 a code segment to show something: |
| 04:59.44 | Nerinia | Eternally777: 1000: 137.1708984375 :p |
| 04:59.47 | Shirik | collectgarbage("stop"); t = {}; gc = gcinfo(); for i=1,1000 do t[i] = i; if gc~=gcinfo() then gc = gcinfo(); print(i..": "..gc); end end |
| 04:59.52 | leethal | the wowinterface.com admins probably hate me, I submit updates liek 10 times a day that they have to manually approve, poor people |
| 05:00.11 | Shirik | This does what I thought it would do, the memory usage only changes every 2^n+1'th index |
| 05:00.24 | Shirik | But, when using collectgarbage('count') it changes on EVERY index |
| 05:00.36 | Shirik | I could understand the rounding thing, but... |
| 05:00.42 | Shirik | 257: 50 |
| 05:00.43 | Shirik | 513: 58 |
| 05:00.45 | ckknight | index? |
| 05:00.58 | Shirik | key |
| 05:01.59 | Shirik | also why the hell is my UI taking up 160MB of memory atm |
| 05:02.26 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 05:02.30 | Shirik | forgot to disable that test addon -_- |
| 05:02.44 | Shirik | Hey Iriel are you here :D |
| 05:02.53 | Iriel | No 8-) |
| 05:03.04 | Shirik | perhaps you can answer this question |
| 05:03.16 | Shirik | collectgarbage("stop"); t = {}; gc = gcinfo(); for i=1,1000 do t[i] = i; if gc~=gcinfo() then gc = gcinfo(); print(i..": "..gc); end end |
| 05:03.25 | leethal | hah! curse is pwnd. it tries to download images instead of viewing them in their fancy ajax thumbnail preview thingie |
| 05:03.27 | Shirik | does a print() every 2^n+1 index, like I thought would |
| 05:03.43 | Shirik | collectgarbage("stop"); t = {}; gc = collectgarbage('count'); for i=1,1000 do t[i] = i; if gc~=collectgarbage('count') then gc = collectgarbage('count'); print(i..": "..gc); end end |
| 05:03.47 | Shirik | prints every index |
| 05:05.46 | Shirik | rounding accounts for some of it |
| 05:05.46 | Shirik | but it doesn't account for the difference at, say, index 800 to 1000 |
| 05:06.54 | Iriel | It does start to become self-fulfilling after a while due to the print statement, but hm. |
| 05:07.49 | Iriel | Actually that'd be enough |
| 05:07.53 | Iriel | If it prints ONCE that's a new object |
| 05:07.57 | Iriel | thus the count goes up |
| 05:08.10 | Iriel | And since collectgarbage is to the byte, you then trigger the next print |
| 05:08.11 | Iriel | etc |
| 05:09.15 | Eternally777 | Nerinia, thanks, btw. |
| 05:09.31 | Shirik | that's exactly it |
| 05:09.33 | Shirik | thanks Iriel |
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| 05:25.23 | leethal | I remember seeing some list or download or something of all the blizzard artwork that's bundled with WoW |
| 05:25.30 | leethal | anyone knows what I'm talking about? |
| 05:25.55 | leethal | borders, icons and what not |
| 05:25.55 | Shirik | mpq :P |
| 05:25.59 | leethal | it's all in there? |
| 05:26.03 | Shirik | ayup |
| 05:26.10 | Shirik | everything's gotta be some where, no? |
| 05:26.17 | leethal | liek, I'm trying to show an icon for your current class for that meat shield addon of mine |
| 05:26.26 | leethal | mpq browsing for the win, then |
| 05:28.37 | leethal | so, in what mpq is e.g. Interface\DialogFrame\UI-DialogBox-Background? Is it |
| 05:28.40 | leethal | erm |
| 05:28.48 | Shirik | sure |
| 05:28.50 | leethal | is it randomly scattered all over the mpqs, or do they have some sorta system? |
| 05:28.54 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:29.03 | Shirik | likely locale-enUS.mpq |
| 05:29.06 | leethal | I think I just found a "Interface" directory |
| 05:29.09 | leethal | ya, in that one |
| 05:30.07 | Nerinia | Found this on WorldStateFrame.lua - line 418: http://wowi.pastey.net/17411 |
| 05:30.19 | leethal | wohoo |
| 05:30.40 | Shirik | lol SetTextCoord |
| 05:30.45 | Shirik | have fun with that |
| 05:30.52 | leethal | hmpfh, doesn't have any "Icons-Classes" in it |
| 05:31.12 | leethal | oh, lawl, nvm |
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| 05:31.16 | Nerinia | oh, sorry. That's the 2.1 Version of WorldStateFrame :/ |
| 05:31.29 | leethal | mm, the file isn't there =/ |
| 05:31.40 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:31.53 | Iriel | Shirik: That's the "easy" version of SetTexCoord |
| 05:31.59 | Shirik | hehe |
| 05:32.18 | Nerinia | Interface AddOn Kit (Windows).exe can extract some Art files. |
| 05:33.11 | leethal | oh crap, .blp files |
| 05:33.17 | leethal | how do you handle those? |
| 05:33.55 | leethal | as in, view them in windows |
| 05:34.37 | Iriel | Find a program (I think some are listed in one of the sticky threads??) that can convert them |
| 05:34.46 | Iriel | Or load them into wow and then do a screenprint 8-) |
| 05:35.08 | Nerinia | Or here http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/search/?q=blp |
| 05:35.33 | leethal | neat |
| 05:35.51 | leethal | hmm, can't seem to find any class icons in the locale file |
| 05:36.01 | leethal | makes sense that they aren't locale based, though |
| 05:36.05 | leethal | *looks in other files* |
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| 05:40.59 | leethal | tell me the name of an addon that displays class icons |
| 05:41.12 | leethal | (please) |
| 05:41.48 | Eternally777 | Discord |
| 05:41.52 | Eternally777 | Unit Frames |
| 05:42.09 | Eternally777 | Wow, haven't used them in forever... |
| 05:42.31 | Eternally777 | But that's where I got them when i needed them. |
| 05:42.43 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php |
| 05:42.48 | Eternally777 | I could never find the class icons in the Blizzard Interface files. |
| 05:42.55 | leethal | I see |
| 05:43.03 | Shirik | in theory |
| 05:43.05 | Shirik | you don't need to |
| 05:43.07 | leethal | hmm, the blizzard frames doesn't use class icons at all, do they? |
| 05:43.09 | Cairenn | grrr, didn't bring it up - anyway, just put in "class icons" in the description |
| 05:43.31 | Shirik | leethal: I'm kinda curious, why do you need to extract em? |
| 05:43.46 | leethal | I was thinking of using them in my Meat Shield GUI |
| 05:44.01 | leethal | http://www.heming.no/idretter/allidrett/aktivitetskalender/ |
| 05:44.02 | leethal | err |
| 05:44.03 | Eternally777 | leethal: No, they don't. |
| 05:44.08 | leethal | l2copypaste |
| 05:44.09 | leethal | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info7086-MeatShield.html |
| 05:44.36 | leethal | was thinking of having them displayed somewhere there, for eye candy |
| 05:47.19 | leethal | I need them in liek 200x200, though, so perhaps I'll draw them myself in EPS and put them out for download somewhere |
| 05:47.26 | leethal | but I guess that is illegal or something =/ |
| 05:47.29 | Karrion | leethal: The battleground/arena scoreboard frames use class icons don't they? |
| 05:47.38 | leethal | hm, true |
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| 06:09.35 | Shirik | why is my client insisting my name is spelled Shriik... |
| 06:09.53 | Shirik|Ghost | ... |
| 06:10.07 | Shirik | I'm about to throw this thing out the window |
| 06:11.06 | ckknight | what client? |
| 06:11.23 | Shirik | nbs-irc through (sadly) mirc |
| 06:12.58 | ckknight | ick |
| 06:14.46 | leethal | in case you're curious of why Lozareth didn't rewrite his discord mods yet: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Lozareth |
| 06:20.08 | ckknight | hey, he's up to 70 |
| 06:20.18 | ckknight | thought he teetered off at 60 |
| 06:20.51 | leethal | 1775 + healing is pretty nice |
| 06:21.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy |
| 06:21.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | crap |
| 06:21.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's a ton |
| 06:21.17 | Cairenn | the lack of update hasn't surprised me at all - he's been so completely burned out on modding for a long long time now - he kept trying to come back, trying to force himself, and that just plain doesn't work |
| 06:21.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | he should stop trying to fool himself |
| 06:21.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | and others |
| 06:21.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | just say "i'm done with discord until i'm interested in it again. which may be never" |
| 06:22.01 | Cairenn | burn out happens |
| 06:22.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's infinitely better than being told that it's coming sometime and it never coming out |
| 06:22.28 | ckknight | so clearly I should make a pally on his server and sneak into his guild for kicks |
| 06:22.29 | Neebler | Discord UI Builder (DUB) is too big of a project to work on alone IMO |
| 06:22.31 | Cairenn | but it's hard for some people to admit it, even to themselves |
| 06:23.00 | ckknight | I've been burned out and didn't mod for a while. I got a pally up to lvl 42 in that process |
| 06:23.08 | ckknight | then I started PitBull :-P |
| 06:23.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're not writing addons for personal enjoyment, you're doing a job for free |
| 06:23.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that's one thing that i can't do |
| 06:23.41 | leethal | that's the "problem" with this free software stuff - it's usually software written by people wanting to solve their own problems |
| 06:23.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate doing work and getting paid, much less doing it for free |
| 06:24.04 | Shirik | I refuse to admit that I'm burned out from RDX |
| 06:24.15 | Shirik | But I am >< But I still work on it for god knows what reason |
| 06:24.17 | Shirik | probably my guild |
| 06:24.19 | leethal | maintaining a project, keeping it up to date with bugs and feature requests, is very different |
| 06:24.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like leveling to 70 versus keeping up with everyone in endgame stuff |
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| 06:24.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure for a while it's fun, but enough of it gets boring fast |
| 06:25.13 | Cairenn | It's the one thing I tell folks (if they ever bother to ask me) every single time - code for yourself. If you are coding for someone else, you'll burn out fast(er). |
| 06:25.33 | Shirik | Well, originally, that's all RDX was >< |
| 06:25.35 | Shirik | then it asploded, lol |
| 06:25.37 | ckknight | Shirik: the way I figured out how to handle it was to work on frameworks that are extremely extensible |
| 06:25.45 | ckknight | and then convince people to extend |
| 06:26.04 | Shirik | I really wish RDX could be like that, really |
| 06:26.13 | Shirik | And to be honest, it is; people can write modules all they want |
| 06:26.16 | ckknight | why can't it be? |
| 06:26.30 | Shirik | but they don't, and probably because of the lack of documentation |
| 06:26.37 | ckknight | documentation ftw, guy |
| 06:26.38 | Shirik | and I'll admit the code is very complex to read |
| 06:27.08 | Shirik | I quoted this earlier today, someone once said to me, "I think the only people that actually know how RDX works are its authors" |
| 06:27.12 | Shirik | and it's probably true |
| 06:27.35 | Shirik | we have maybe... 8 functions documented |
| 06:27.47 | Neebler | GUI!!! |
| 06:28.33 | Shirik | this is probably the only semi-good piece of documentation we have, and it's still bad: http://rdx.emoemu.com/wiki/index.php/Communication_Protocols |
| 06:35.14 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | New Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please. | "I would ring up, just for the snark" - Wobin | Happy Birthday Kirkburn! |
| 06:37.16 | ckknight | yea, that could be better, Shirik |
| 06:37.17 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:37.23 | ckknight | happy birthday Kirkburn|22 |
| 06:37.26 | ckknight | you're old now |
| 06:37.30 | Shirik | Happy birthday Kirkburn|22 :D |
| 06:37.50 | Kirkburn|22 | Thanks :) |
| 06:38.01 | Shirik | yup, you're old now |
| 06:38.12 | Shirik | Damn, I'm only two years away from being old :( |
| 06:38.37 | Shirik | ~hug Kirkburn|22 |
| 06:38.53 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Kirkburn|22 and suddenly hugs Kirkburn|22 tightly |
| 06:38.53 | ckknight | ~console Shirik |
| 06:38.55 | purl | ACTION gives Shirik the consolation moose |
| 06:38.57 | Kirkburn|22 | lol |
| 06:39.35 | Shirik | I can't remember if I have classes tomorrow.... |
| 06:39.46 | Shirik | and apparently the school network is down so I can't find out >.> |
| 06:40.10 | Shirik | I think our IT staff needs to be fired |
| 06:47.02 | Shirik | someone asked for it as a feature for rdx windows... but I don't know if it'd really be used |
| 06:47.06 | Shirik | night Cairenn|afk |
| 06:47.09 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 06:48.50 | Mikk | Pfff kirk you pup |
| 06:49.06 | Kirkburn|22 | Night Cairenn|afk |
| 06:49.12 | Kirkburn|22 | Mikk, :( |
| 06:49.20 | Mikk | .. |
| 06:49.24 | Mikk | 32 |
| 06:49.25 | Mikk | >.< |
| 06:49.39 | Kirkburn|22 | zomg, that's like totally OOOOLD |
| 06:49.41 | Cairenn|afk | Pfff Mikk you pup |
| 06:49.56 | Shirik | you all are making Cairenn|afk feel old :( |
| 06:49.58 | Shirik | AND GO TO BED |
| 06:50.06 | Shirik | You're going to kill yourself if you stay up too long |
| 06:50.18 | Kirkburn|22 | haha |
| 06:50.31 | Mikk | Shush cair you're only a rounding error away from me =P |
| 06:50.50 | Shirik | poor Cairenn|afk :( |
| 06:50.59 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
| 06:52.04 | Mikk | obtw happy bday kirkbum =) |
| 06:52.45 | Shirik | -_- |
| 06:52.49 | Shirik | SVN died >.> |
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| 06:53.04 | Shirik | I do svn update and it skips everything |
| 06:53.22 | Kirkburn|22 | eek |
| 06:53.37 | Kirkburn|22 | Mikk, belated thanks ;) |
| 06:54.48 | Mikk | gdgd |
| 06:54.49 | Mikk | INSULT |
| 06:54.54 | Mikk | :P |
| 06:56.12 | Kirkburn|22 | haha |
| 06:57.05 | leethal | when my addon has a "test.tga" in it's folder, shouldn't myframe:SetBackdrop({bgFile="Interface\\Addons\\myaddon\\test.tga"}) work? Or is teh path different for your own files somehow? |
| 06:58.39 | leethal | I don't need to include it in the toc or anything, right? |
| 06:59.58 | Shirik | correct |
| 07:00.00 | Shirik | for example... |
| 07:00.11 | Shirik | bgFile="Interface\\Addons\\VFL\\Skin\\Checker", tile = true, tileSize = 15, |
| 07:00.13 | leethal | seems like it was my .tga that was weird, used some other tga and it worked |
| 07:00.29 | Shirik | you have to use a specific type of tga |
| 07:00.31 | Shirik | I forget exactly |
| 07:00.45 | leethal | mm, I just saved a png as tga with irfanview |
| 07:02.15 | Shirik | you need to add an alpha channel |
| 07:02.25 | Shirik | not sure if/how irfanview allows you to do that |
| 07:05.08 | Shirik | whoooo new RDX module started finally, RDXM_Kara.... EXTREMELY late |
| 07:05.17 | Shirik | But I'm happy I finally have time to do this |
| 07:07.23 | leethal | RDX? |
| 07:07.44 | Shirik | you make me cry :( |
| 07:07.58 | Shirik | The only real addon I work on |
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| 07:08.20 | leethal | aw |
| 07:08.41 | leethal | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5680-RDX.Cid.html? |
| 07:09.02 | ckknight | Shirik: that's why you gotta work on something big and important |
| 07:09.04 | leethal | hmm |
| 07:09.10 | Shirik | leethal: Yes |
| 07:09.20 | ckknight | leethal: you're an adoring fan of mine, right? |
| 07:09.39 | leethal | ckknight: of course, PitBull! |
| 07:09.44 | leethal | ckknight: who is this Shirik anyway? |
| 07:09.49 | Shirik | T_T |
| 07:09.49 | ckknight | some guy |
| 07:10.08 | ckknight | lol |
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| 07:10.20 | ckknight | Shirik: I've got 4 big projects under my belt |
| 07:10.26 | Shirik | wc -l `find ./RDX* -name *.lua -o -name *.xml -o -name *.toc` >>> 18.3k lines |
| 07:10.28 | leethal | Shirik: you're credited in all my addons, though =) |
| 07:10.30 | Shirik | If that's not big I don't know what is... |
| 07:10.48 | leethal | big = number of users, mm? |
| 07:11.04 | Shirik | we actually have quite a decent number of users, but I really only care about writing it for my guild |
| 07:11.33 | Shirik | But I'm willing to bet about 50% of the userbase is all our server |
| 07:11.53 | Shirik | But I'm ALSO willing to bed that RDX is used more than CT on Eredar, as well (suprising to say) |
| 07:12.00 | Shirik | But that's mostly because of the drama that followed it |
| 07:12.30 | leethal | I'm struggling to figure out what it does |
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| 07:12.45 | Shirik | heh |
| 07:12.54 | Shirik | no offense, that's almost equivalent to "what does fubar do" |
| 07:12.57 | Shirik | well, really, nothing |
| 07:13.06 | Shirik | its plugins are what make it effective |
| 07:13.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | it makes a little grey bar! |
| 07:13.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | with some options that don't do much |
| 07:13.25 | Shirik | ok, and RDX makes a little box with something that looks like a VCR |
| 07:13.37 | Shirik | (play, stop, rewind, timer) |
| 07:13.51 | Shirik | and its options don't do much :P |
| 07:14.02 | Shirik | But, leethal, here I'll show you a screenshot of it fully in action |
| 07:14.18 | Shirik | well, as much as I could for now |
| 07:14.29 | Shirik | Don't really do too much raiding lately so I don't have any good shots of its boss modules |
| 07:14.51 | leethal | I don't approve of the way "hide mouse-over highlights" exceeds that grey outline http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5686.jpg =P |
| 07:14.57 | leethal | </troll> |
| 07:15.43 | ckknight | wc -l `find ./FuBar* ./PitBull* ./Cartographer* ./Ace2 ./AbacusLib/ CrayonLib/ Babble-2.2/ Click2Cast/ Deformat/ DewdropLib/ DogTag-1.0/ GloryLib/ JostleLib/ Parser-3.0/ RollCall-1.0/ TabletLib/ -name *.lua -o -name *.xml -o -name *.toc` |
| 07:15.43 | ckknight | 42732 total |
| 07:15.43 | Shirik | oh god |
| 07:15.43 | ckknight | Shirik: ^-- |
| 07:15.43 | Shirik | leethal don't look at that picture |
| 07:15.43 | Shirik | that was taken by Cidan and it's pure ugly |
| 07:15.43 | Shirik | lol ckknight nice :) |
| 07:15.43 | leethal | Shirik: but that's all I have =( |
| 07:15.43 | Shirik | I'm finding you a better one :P |
| 07:15.45 | leethal | that, and some other picture I can't understand |
| 07:15.46 | ckknight | Shirik: I'm totally missing some libraries, though |
| 07:15.55 | Shirik | Well I skipped out on VFL :P |
| 07:16.08 | Shirik | mostly because I was too lazy to include it, since it doesn't fit in the RDX* part |
| 07:19.10 | Neebler | I'm trying to make my entire interface one color, the only thing left to change is the buttons. Is their an addon out there that can change the hue of each button all the time? |
| 07:19.49 | Neebler | Theirs RangeRecolor, and several variants of that ability in bar addons, but no way to change the complete color of the buttons |
| 07:25.56 | MentalPower|ZZzz | :SetVertexColor()? |
| 07:26.20 | MentalPower|ZZzz | but you'd need a white or semi-white texture to begin with |
| 07:26.29 | MentalPower|ZZzz | or else it won't do much |
| 07:26.33 | MentalPower|ZZzz | gnight |
| 07:26.38 | Shirik | leethal: Probably the best shot I can find http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot021407230221ym3.jpg |
| 07:26.41 | Shirik | bah he left |
| 07:28.00 | ckknight | I can't stand the default UF |
| 07:28.00 | ckknight | it just irks me so much |
| 07:28.00 | Shirik | Eh, can turn em off |
| 07:28.00 | Shirik | I don't even use em |
| 07:28.01 | Shirik | I use the RDX unit frames |
| 07:28.28 | ckknight | how're those? |
| 07:28.51 | Shirik | it's right at the bottom there ;) But that's really a bad showing of what they can do |
| 07:28.52 | ckknight | I've been working on PitBull, and looking for assorted ideas |
| 07:29.03 | Shirik | I do somewhat of a minimalist approach on them |
| 07:29.07 | ckknight | as well as trying to hock DogTag-1.0 onto other authors |
| 07:29.30 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:29.32 | Shirik | I show only HP, with missing HP number, and flashes under certain conditions |
| 07:29.35 | Shirik | that's it |
| 07:29.42 | Shirik | in a very small frame about 50px high by 100px wide |
| 07:29.44 | Shirik | something like that |
| 07:29.55 | Shirik | but I have 3 copies of each unit |
| 07:30.50 | Shirik | Bah, being distracted here, RDXM_Kara will never get written this way :( |
| 07:33.08 | Shirik | wow, I just saw in trade channel |
| 07:33.15 | Shirik | "WTS lifetime portals for 1000g" |
| 07:35.06 | Nom- | heh...those unitframes look whacky |
| 07:35.30 | Nom- | Whacky in a bad way |
| 07:35.32 | Shirik | My setup is a horrible show of what it can do, sadly. I like seeing a ton of information, just the way I am |
| 07:35.39 | Shirik | they're fully configurable |
| 07:35.44 | Nom- | well i do too kinda |
| 07:35.46 | ckknight | as configurable as PitBull? |
| 07:35.54 | Shirik | Never seen PitBull relaly |
| 07:35.57 | Shirik | really* |
| 07:35.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:36.06 | Shirik | Though I meant to :P |
| 07:36.12 | Shirik | I wanted to poke that access violation you're getting |
| 07:36.13 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/pics/WoWScrnShot_022607_094737.jpg |
| 07:36.18 | Nom- | Prolly seen it before |
| 07:36.28 | Nom- | I have my party frames across the bottom, below the HUD |
| 07:36.38 | Nom- | and Raid frames on the left, above AutoBar |
| 07:36.51 | Shirik | ok, it can't do pictures, mostly because it's designed as a raid addon |
| 07:36.56 | Shirik | and having 40 pictures is going to hurt your eyes |
| 07:37.06 | ckknight | if you turn it off, the frame isn't even created |
| 07:37.08 | Nom- | focus is above the HUD lined up with target which is the on the rright |
| 07:37.10 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:37.32 | Nom- | The only annoying this is agUF keeps losing my customer raid frame lately |
| 07:37.39 | Shirik | customer? |
| 07:37.54 | Nom- | *custom |
| 07:37.59 | Shirik | (sorry never used a unit frame addon other than DUF) |
| 07:38.03 | Shirik | (and that was a long time ago) |
| 07:38.05 | Nom- | sorry been writing docos all afternoon lol |
| 07:38.08 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:38.13 | FlAWD | CT_Raid FTW! |
| 07:38.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:38.33 | Shirik | Nom- Don't let Cide hear you!! |
| 07:38.35 | FlAWD | i just like their unit frames |
| 07:38.38 | FlAWD | raid frames rather |
| 07:38.46 | FlAWD | and the mail mod ... and buff mod |
| 07:38.52 | Shirik | isn't that like |
| 07:38.54 | Shirik | the whole thing? |
| 07:38.55 | FlAWD | i use oRA2 for other raid stuff |
| 07:39.17 | Shirik | meh, I'm not going to get into an argument over which is better, which is worse; Use what you like |
| 07:39.26 | Shirik | Unless your guild forces you to use something |
| 07:39.27 | Shirik | then use that |
| 07:39.39 | FlAWD | true |
| 07:39.53 | Shirik | Everyone has different preferences, otherwise addons wouldn't be different |
| 07:40.06 | FlAWD | yep |
| 07:40.17 | Shirik | If I had never worked on RDX I'd probably be using CT right now, I'll admit it |
| 07:40.33 | Shirik | But if nothing else, I like RDX for the pure reason I can change it as much as I want |
| 07:40.41 | Shirik | (But I have a lot of other reasons too) |
| 07:40.47 | Shirik | But this is me, and only me |
| 07:41.47 | pastamancer | RDX has some interesting stuff going on |
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| 07:42.30 | Nom- | Actually, it's the raid frames that I hate from CT_Raid |
| 07:42.30 | Nom- | Everything else that I used from it was pretty unobtrusive...it was all background stuff |
| 07:42.43 | Nom- | I hate having my raid broken up by class/group etc |
| 07:42.58 | Nom- | I just want one box that lists all the players, grouped by class, but not have to manage seperate boxes for each one |
| 07:43.20 | Nom- | I just wish PerfectRaid was back to its' former glory :( |
| 07:43.26 | pastamancer | it's not? |
| 07:43.39 | pastamancer | praid looked pretty good last time I checked it out |
| 07:43.43 | Shirik | one of the many things I like about RDX :) You set up the windows the way you want them. If you want, you could split them up like "Any Shamans and Group 2 in this window" "Only Warriors in group 3 in this window" "Everything else in this window" etc |
| 07:43.43 | Nom- | It's got some nice features |
| 07:43.58 | Nom- | but it doesn't do the background colouring for curses/disease/poison etc |
| 07:44.05 | Nom- | At least, not last I checked |
| 07:44.11 | Shirik | But I'm like you Nom |
| 07:44.15 | Shirik | I like everything in one big window |
| 07:44.17 | pastamancer | seems like a simple-enough hack |
| 07:44.39 | pastamancer | I honestly just keep grid in columns by group |
| 07:45.16 | Nom- | I don't mind perfectraid for a 40-man |
| 07:45.19 | FlAWD | http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3577/uitu4.jpg |
| 07:45.23 | FlAWD | my UI :) |
| 07:45.28 | Nom- | But personally, for the 10 and 25 man, agUF is so much nicer |
| 07:45.35 | Nom- | Having group headings wastes so much space |
| 07:46.02 | Shirik | FlAWD: What are those random green boxes? |
| 07:46.10 | pastamancer | yesss, finally 1000 shadow damage! |
| 07:46.15 | Shirik | nice |
| 07:46.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss being able to play in widescreen |
| 07:46.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but alas, my desktop plays more smootly |
| 07:46.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | smootly, hahaha |
| 07:46.48 | Nom- | heh |
| 07:46.57 | FlAWD | which random green boxes? |
| 07:47.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know why that made me laugh so much, but haha |
| 07:47.01 | FlAWD | near the top in the middle? |
| 07:47.04 | Shirik | yeah |
| 07:47.06 | FlAWD | Decursive |
| 07:47.12 | FlAWD | my alt is a priest |
| 07:47.14 | Shirik | umm |
| 07:47.25 | FlAWD | and decursive doesn't have character specific settings |
| 07:47.27 | Shirik | ok very confused how that works, but w/e |
| 07:47.35 | Shirik | *headdesk* why not... |
| 07:47.40 | Nom- | I don't see any point in using decursive any more |
| 07:47.49 | FlAWD | you can click to dispel/cleanse now |
| 07:47.54 | FlAWD | using those boxes |
| 07:48.00 | Shirik | FlAWD, that was always possible... |
| 07:48.05 | Nom- | Yeah, I can do that on normal raid frames alrady |
| 07:48.06 | Shirik | RDX has done it since day one of BC |
| 07:48.09 | Nom- | Control-Click = Cleanse |
| 07:48.16 | FlAWD | ah cool |
| 07:48.24 | Nom- | lern2clique :) |
| 07:48.26 | Shirik | clique handles it pretty easily too |
| 07:48.44 | Nom- | I tried audio alerts for them |
| 07:48.44 | Shirik | Nom-: Does Clique allow you to set up a macro for a click? |
| 07:49.05 | Nom- | But I discovered that I got them quicker just by visual feedback from agUF |
| 07:49.21 | Nom- | Shirik: I've not tried...it's *mainly* tied to the spell book |
| 07:49.28 | Shirik | ah, never used it so I don't know |
| 07:49.36 | Shirik | I'm just trying to think of an easy way to cater to this guy's request... |
| 07:49.36 | FlAWD | i like my sage party frames for when i'm not in a raid |
| 07:50.01 | Nom- | ah yes |
| 07:50.04 | Nom- | it does let you do a macro |
| 07:50.11 | Nom- | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5495589369861870162 |
| 07:50.13 | Shirik | ooh I'll have to check out how that works |
| 07:57.58 | Shirik | just to clarify something |
| 07:58.02 | Shirik | those little boxes on decursive |
| 07:58.06 | Shirik | what do they signify? |
| 07:58.11 | FlAWD | party members |
| 07:58.16 | Shirik | and how do they work? |
| 07:58.26 | FlAWD | for a priest you left click on one to dispel and right click for disease |
| 07:58.34 | Shirik | I mean |
| 07:58.34 | FlAWD | one box for each party member |
| 07:58.36 | Shirik | why are they grean |
| 07:58.38 | Shirik | green* |
| 07:58.41 | FlAWD | green is good |
| 07:58.45 | FlAWD | nothing to dispel |
| 07:58.47 | Shirik | so they change colors |
| 07:58.51 | FlAWD | yea |
| 07:59.00 | Shirik | and you have to click a different box for each member |
| 07:59.02 | FlAWD | and turn red when the person is out of range but has something |
| 07:59.03 | FlAWD | yea |
| 07:59.07 | Shirik | ok |
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| 08:14.17 | Shirik | I need to rethink the name of this function... RDXM.Kara.SetActiveEncounter = RDX.GenerateSetActiveEncounterFunction(RDXM.Kara, enctbl); |
| 08:14.27 | Shirik | that is way too long |
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| 10:01.25 | ckknight | anybody want to be my myspace friend? |
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| 10:03.08 | Shirik | I would |
| 10:03.12 | Shirik | but I hate myspace |
| 10:03.16 | ckknight | yea, me too |
| 10:03.25 | ckknight | mine's fake to create an illusion of my alter ego's existence |
| 10:03.29 | Shirik | haha |
| 10:04.06 | ckknight | http://www.myspace.com/southernjesse |
| 10:04.09 | ckknight | not much on it |
| 10:04.12 | ckknight | just my videos |
| 10:04.33 | Shirik | you already have two friends :D |
| 10:05.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 10:05.15 | ckknight | one's the default guy |
| 10:05.19 | ckknight | one's my sister-in-law |
| 10:05.32 | Shirik | you get a default friend? |
| 10:06.16 | ckknight | yea |
| 10:06.20 | ckknight | myspace's owner |
| 10:06.26 | Shirik | ah |
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| 10:27.20 | Shirik | oh wow... Veni quit... |
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| 10:30.26 | ckknight | oh? |
| 10:30.39 | Shirik | such says the forums |
| 10:31.08 | Shirik | (I'm about a week behind, but such is my life) |
| 10:31.11 | ckknight | link? |
| 10:31.20 | Shirik | uh.... it's a bit hostile but... |
| 10:31.32 | Shirik | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96004593&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 10:31.45 | Shirik | (it's a link to a realm forum, of course it's hostile...) |
| 10:31.55 | ckknight | lol |
| 10:34.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 10:34.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | wonder what this 40mb patch for the ptr is adding |
| 10:34.21 | Shirik | 40? |
| 10:34.29 | Shirik | (hopes they fixed secure templates for good this time) |
| 10:34.30 | Nerinia | patch? |
| 10:35.11 | Nerinia | (+ Set*Binding) |
| 10:36.31 | batrick | they screwed up a lot didn't they |
| 10:37.04 | ckknight | sweet, Mr_Rabies |
| 10:37.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98761747&sid=1 |
| 10:37.09 | ckknight | hopefully portraits are fixed |
| 10:37.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | no notes, as usual |
| 10:37.56 | ckknight | no biggie |
| 10:38.02 | ckknight | framexml diff is all you need :-P |
| 10:38.18 | Shirik | wdn ftw :) |
| 10:38.31 | ckknight | does it have the diff up already? |
| 10:38.35 | Shirik | probably not |
| 10:38.48 | ckknight | I'll make one, then |
| 10:38.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont care about ui changes, that's you guys' job :p |
| 10:38.57 | ckknight | lol |
| 10:39.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | gameplay's my concern |
| 10:53.20 | ckknight | FrameXML diff: http://ace.pastey.net/17500 |
| 10:53.26 | Shirik | cool cool |
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| 11:02.19 | ckknight | btw, you can have multiple MTs and multiple MAs |
| 11:06.45 | Nerinia | Yay gryphon animation fixed! No change to secureframes :/ |
| 11:12.08 | AnduinLothar | ck: no |
| 11:12.15 | ckknight | no? |
| 11:12.24 | AnduinLothar | you can't have multiple MTs and multiple MAs |
| 11:12.26 | Nerinia | woops, SecureFrame works. My fault |
| 11:12.29 | ckknight | sure you can |
| 11:12.36 | ckknight | I am testing it now |
| 11:13.47 | AnduinLothar | with blizz's interface?> |
| 11:13.57 | ckknight | yessir |
| 11:16.49 | ckknight | btw, we're talking about the PTR |
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| 11:29.57 | batrick | Nerinia, Secure frames are working with my mod :S |
| 11:30.01 | batrick | o you noted that nvm |
| 11:31.05 | Nerinia | Yeah, typo in my AddOn :/ |
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| 12:05.32 | Nom- | *cry* |
| 12:05.38 | Nom- | agUF killed WoWo |
| 12:05.47 | ckknight | WoWo? |
| 12:06.02 | Nom- | WoW |
| 12:06.03 | ckknight | not WoWo... he was my favorite puppy |
| 12:06.17 | haste | wowzer |
| 12:07.37 | Nom- | It's been getting more and more broken every time I update it |
| 12:07.48 | Nom- | This time it just chewed all available RAM (don't have a memory cap set) |
| 12:15.32 | ckknight | try out PitBull |
| 12:16.12 | Nom- | still doing it :( |
| 12:16.12 | Nom- | I need replacement unit frames :( |
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| 12:16.58 | Nom- | bleh agUF still buggered...need replacement unit frames for raid which is about to start :( |
| 12:24.54 | Nom- | Shirik: You said you use RDX? |
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| 12:32.00 | Shirik | I do use it, yes, but more accurately, I write it |
| 12:34.35 | Elkano | >>> http://ace.pastey.net/17548 |
| 12:34.58 | Elkano | oh, cide isn't here... |
| 12:38.50 | Mikk | Nom-: Download older agUF? |
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| 12:53.32 | AnduinLothar | oh wow, i win |
| 12:54.01 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 12:54.38 | AnduinLothar | I made a recursive function that scans sibling frames (same parent) and reanchors them if they are only anchored to the specifiec frame |
| 12:54.42 | AnduinLothar | specified* |
| 12:56.11 | AnduinLothar | so now if you drag ActionButton1 with FluidFrames it not only reparents it to UIParent, but ActionButton2-12 are also reparented |
| 12:56.51 | zenzelezz | neat :) |
| 12:57.30 | AnduinLothar | same with CharacterMicroButton |
| 12:58.01 | JoshBorke | so what did you win AL? |
| 12:58.02 | AnduinLothar | and the bag buttons |
| 12:58.11 | foxlit | Hm, they patched PTR again, but the secureframes are still borked? |
| 12:58.33 | AnduinLothar | I win the self gratified awesome award. |
| 12:58.51 | JoshBorke | congrats! |
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| 13:00.27 | AnduinLothar | now i jsut need to figure out how to reset it |
| 13:06.04 | ckknight | foxlit: how were they borked before? |
| 13:08.34 | foxlit | Code that works fine on live ends up tainting SecureFrames to the point where if you add a child to a secure header, child will be tainted |
| 13:10.07 | ckknight | there was work done on that, from the diff I made |
| 13:10.50 | foxlit | Do you need new test code? :) |
| 13:11.10 | foxlit | (or do your tests also fail on new PTRs?) |
| 13:11.38 | ckknight | haven't done extensive tests |
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| 13:16.28 | Shirik|AFK | I |
| 13:16.33 | Shirik|AFK | think RDX works fine on the current PTR |
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| 13:17.26 | Shirik|AFK | I'll download ptr patch today and see, but foxlit I thought that was fixed.. |
| 13:17.34 | Shirik|AFK | any specific header? |
| 13:19.30 | foxlit | One of the frames I declared in XML |
| 13:20.02 | foxlit | The only weird thing I can think of its that it eventually forms a chain of three. Removing secure status on the frame seems to remove the taint. |
| 13:20.55 | foxlit | I can toss you a copy of my addon, but I can't strip it down to basics before EU PTRs come back |
| 13:24.13 | Shirik|AFK | if you want to, send it to skullshot@guardianhq.com |
| 13:24.17 | Shirik|AFK | heaidngo ff to class atm though |
| 13:24.31 | Shirik|AFK | .. |
| 13:24.33 | Shirik|AFK | heading off* |
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| 13:36.08 | MrTorture | Hmm is anyone around this morning? |
| 13:37.37 | Kaso | Im around, but its afternoon here so i guess i dont count |
| 13:38.08 | MrTorture | Haha |
| 13:38.30 | MrTorture | Have you ever made a skin for WoW? like what Discord Art does? |
| 13:39.10 | MrTorture | Errrrr Brb |
| 13:41.46 | Kaso | The hardest part about that is Making the actual textures which involves artistic talents beyond mine, replacing the orgrinal textures is a trivial task |
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| 13:45.26 | foxlit | Draw a picture of everything first, then worry about how to plug it in |
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| 13:45.40 | MrTorture | O well I've done stuff in Adobe alot |
| 13:45.49 | MrTorture | I did graphics and everything for like 2 years and I'm not looking for anything special |
| 13:45.59 | MrTorture | I even just wanna bum off someone else |
| 13:46.17 | MrTorture | Except that Discord Art doesn't work anymore it just says Incompatible |
| 13:47.13 | Kaso | Yah im not sure what happened with Discord they really fell of the radar since 2.0 |
| 13:48.04 | MrTorture | Ya and I got a version of it that is sapposed to work but it doesn't seem like it does... |
| 13:48.34 | MrTorture | However I do have images to work with already |
| 13:48.58 | Kaso | I'd be tempted to just learn a bit of coding and write up something custom-fit to do your job |
| 13:49.19 | Kaso | (if i were in your position i mean) |
| 13:49.56 | MrTorture | Ya thats kinda what I'm looking to do but where should I do that? |
| 13:50.19 | MrTorture | I mean I haven't done coding... since.... like 4 years ago... but I still remember basic crap.. |
| 13:51.12 | Kaso | ~faraframes |
| 13:51.24 | purl | faraframes is a rather good tutorial of basic wow frames creation using XML, it can be found at http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 13:51.26 | MrTorture | Where should I look for that??? Just google it? |
| 13:51.33 | Kaso | take a look at that first of all, shows the basics of XML frames/Textures which the default UI uses |
| 13:51.40 | Kaso | that'll give a good grounding |
| 13:51.42 | MrTorture | ooo |
| 13:51.48 | MrTorture | Okay thanks tons ^_^ |
| 13:52.11 | Kaso | Alot of that stuff wont really be needed for what you want but its worth knowing |
| 13:52.44 | Kaso | Then you prob want to know the functions you can use in the widgit api for textures and frames |
| 13:52.49 | Kaso | a reference of that is here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 13:53.13 | Kaso | after you've read all that then ask in here again for some tips on getting started on replacing default UI textures |
| 13:53.38 | MrTorture | Alright thanks ^_^ |
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| 14:48.07 | MrTorture | You still around Kaso? |
| 14:50.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | how does this spec look? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=uZxVfdV0sAuqoEbc |
| 14:52.21 | MrTorture | Its a fair bit different how I would do it on my shaman |
| 14:53.13 | [dRaCo] | I'd get healing focus instead of imp reinc and mental quickness |
| 14:53.55 | [dRaCo] | it's a great lifesaver |
| 14:54.29 | MrTorture | I like Anticipation and Toughness myself ... |
| 14:55.06 | MrTorture | If you going to dual weild I wouldn't put that point into the 2 hander |
| 14:55.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GZxVfdV0sVuqoE0cx |
| 14:55.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's only one point, and seems to be more useful than anything else :/ |
| 14:55.30 | MrTorture | I personally would drop the lightning sheild and the imp ghost wolf |
| 14:55.37 | [dRaCo] | yeah, anticipation is great... I don't know about thoughness, I don't like it that much |
| 14:55.56 | MrTorture | ya.. well what I did with my stuff |
| 14:55.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't find myself with enough AGI to really bother with dodging |
| 14:56.08 | MrTorture | Is the extra points I had I put into toughness |
| 14:56.36 | MrTorture | Well anticipation is 5% ... thats 1 in 20 chance to dodge no matter what ur agi is |
| 14:56.47 | [dRaCo] | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=uZxV0dE0sVuqoE0cx <-- that's my current spec |
| 14:57.20 | [dRaCo] | I found those 5% to be pretty useful |
| 14:57.54 | MrTorture | I'm not going to link my current spec... cause I kinda messed it up and I'm just waiting for the patch to give me a free respec |
| 14:58.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't think it is |
| 14:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, imp ghost wolf seems more helpful than a puny 2% dodge |
| 14:58.46 | [dRaCo] | for pvp, maybe |
| 14:58.58 | [dRaCo] | but in instances or raids it's totally useless |
| 14:59.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | in instances anticipation is pretty useless too |
| 14:59.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | only time it's an issue is whirlwind and i doubt any mobs i'll be fighting will have too much damage coming from WW |
| 15:00.16 | zenzelezz | Maulgar disagrees =D |
| 15:00.23 | MrTorture | god i hate him >_< |
| 15:00.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll never fight him on my shaman |
| 15:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll never get past 5 mans most likely |
| 15:00.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll just get him to 70 and pvp |
| 15:01.09 | [dRaCo] | you'll fight a lot of mobs with cleave and sweeping strikes |
| 15:01.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | cleave's being changed |
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| 15:01.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and sweeping strikes never really hits hard enough to worry about |
| 15:01.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, i don't bother running from sweeping strikes on my druid |
| 15:01.49 | [dRaCo] | hey, my 2 cents, find out yourself ;) |
| 15:01.55 | MrTorture | Iono I had Imp GW but never used it |
| 15:01.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | asscleaves are no more |
| 15:02.08 | MrTorture | Its only good in PvP I think |
| 15:02.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, that's what i'm gonna be doing mostly on him anyway |
| 15:02.28 | zenzelezz | just remember, this is opinions, you may both be right ;) |
| 15:02.31 | MrTorture | Well then I'd get it |
| 15:02.49 | [dRaCo] | For PvP, I'd go for something like 15/31/15 |
| 15:02.54 | MrTorture | Haha ya.. But now you guys got me looking at how i wanna fully respec |
| 15:03.09 | MrTorture | Ya cause you dont need shamanistic rage and stuff for pvp |
| 15:03.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh, draco, elemental/enhance builds aren't so great anymore |
| 15:03.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | since they work on spellcrit, especially that early in the tree |
| 15:03.24 | zenzelezz | 20/20/21! |
| 15:03.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | which you have next to none of |
| 15:03.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're enhancement |
| 15:03.45 | [dRaCo] | imo the imp. shocks are worth the 15 points |
| 15:03.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 15:03.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't shock much |
| 15:04.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stormstrike a ton |
| 15:04.07 | [dRaCo] | sure |
| 15:04.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and shamanistic rage is just too fantastic to give up |
| 15:04.18 | [dRaCo] | stormstrike is a must-have |
| 15:04.28 | MrTorture | o ya |
| 15:04.43 | MrTorture | I'm mainly PvE myself |
| 15:04.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do both on my druid |
| 15:04.58 | MrTorture | And I land up off tanking alot |
| 15:05.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | but my shaman is my "something different" alt |
| 15:05.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i'm thinking about going elemental |
| 15:05.06 | MrTorture | Probaly why I like tougness |
| 15:05.19 | MrTorture | My shaman is my main ^_^ |
| 15:05.34 | MrTorture | I can dish out a ton of dps though |
| 15:05.48 | MrTorture | Ive only seen warlocks out dps me in the groups ive been in |
| 15:06.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one can on mine yet |
| 15:06.07 | [dRaCo] | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GE00xZxVfzV0sV0oZE00x <-- that's how I'd spec for PvP |
| 15:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | then again hes only level 50 |
| 15:06.28 | MrTorture | 49 is the peak of a shaman |
| 15:06.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | with the level 48 wsg dagger in his offhand and a 35 dps mace in the mh |
| 15:06.43 | MrTorture | At 49 with kang I could one shot people |
| 15:06.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i pretty much can |
| 15:06.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | with a windfury |
| 15:07.04 | MrTorture | o ya |
| 15:07.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used to have 952 AP on my shaman with the old rockbiter |
| 15:07.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | at 42 |
| 15:07.31 | Kaso | MrTorture im back now, still want some help? |
| 15:07.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | he pretty much destroyed everything in his path, especially with old windfury |
| 15:08.33 | MrTorture | Well I read all of the fara stuff and everything and was going to try it out and its Incompatible with WoW |
| 15:09.18 | Kaso | What is incompatible/ |
| 15:09.31 | Kaso | oh the demos from fara |
| 15:09.36 | MrTorture | Ya |
| 15:09.38 | Kaso | ## Interface: 1600 |
| 15:09.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | what about http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GE0zE0MqAotLZE0c ? |
| 15:09.42 | Kaso | change that to 20003 |
| 15:10.01 | MrTorture | oo oki |
| 15:10.29 | Kaso | man i didnt realse that tutorial was so old |
| 15:10.50 | MrTorture | lol |
| 15:10.58 | Kaso | It was written on at the time of 1.6 patch |
| 15:11.03 | Kaso | that was when BWL was launched |
| 15:11.17 | MrTorture | haha |
| 15:12.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | bwl was mostly ready at release, but they stopped development of it for mc :O |
| 15:12.50 | [dRaCo] | I'd rather get Eye of the Storm instead of those 4% more Mana, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 15:13.01 | Nom- | ah loving this run tonight |
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| 15:13.07 | Nom- | one-shotted every boss, clearing to curator now |
| 15:13.15 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 15:13.25 | AnduinLothar | what's AceEvent20Frame? |
| 15:13.25 | zenzelezz | do not touch the displays |
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| 15:14.07 | Kirkburn|22 | Woot, new release of ClearFont on WoWI, first for a while :P |
| 15:14.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | |22 |
| 15:14.13 | zenzelezz | he's multiplying |
| 15:14.42 | Thunder_Child2 | or he is danceing in a small pink outfit |
| 15:15.02 | Kirkburn|22 | :D |
| 15:15.37 | Kirkburn|22 | Cairenn|afk, thanks for the topic, and my present for you is a new release of ClearFont2 :P |
| 15:15.40 | AnduinLothar | wth is AceEvent20Frame and why is it trying to reanchor the MainMenuBar every 10 seconds... |
| 15:15.41 | Thunder_Child2 | yea, but there is nothing exciting at 22....18/21 is where all the fun happens |
| 15:15.49 | Kirkburn|22 | Thunder_Child2, I know :( |
| 15:16.31 | Thunder_Child2 | yea, after that...it's just another day |
| 15:16.31 | Kirkburn|22 | Regarding the small pink outfit - I did get a note on my door today saying "Birthday Girl!" |
| 15:16.31 | Thunder_Child2 | heh |
| 15:18.20 | Kaso | Cide are you there? |
| 15:18.20 | Cide | yes |
| 15:18.20 | Kaso | CT_Mod's minimap button has the wrong parent |
| 15:18.20 | AnduinLothar | ha, among other problems.. |
| 15:18.21 | Cide | I'm not sure how you're defining the 'right' parent? |
| 15:18.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's saying it's adopted |
| 15:18.29 | Kaso | its currently set to UIParent so when you hide minimap the button does not hide |
| 15:18.29 | Cide | that's intended |
| 15:18.36 | Kaso | Why? |
| 15:18.58 | Cide | because you can move it anywhere, not just around the minimap |
| 15:19.05 | Cide | AnduinLothar: are you referring to the code I wrote 3.5 years ago, or the new code I wrote 3.5 months ago? |
| 15:19.19 | Kaso | Can't you change it's parent in relation to wether it is "bound" to the minimap or not |
| 15:19.37 | Cide | what that boils down to is a design decision |
| 15:19.39 | AnduinLothar | ah, haven't seen any new code. i didn't even know you finished the recode |
| 15:19.48 | Cide | not 'right' or 'wrong' :) |
| 15:19.58 | Kaso | hehe |
| 15:20.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | arghghghg, this sunburn is driving me crazy |
| 15:20.17 | Kaso | well it "looks" wrong when you hide your minimap and CT_Mod is left there alone |
| 15:20.24 | Thunder_Child2 | could be worse...could be a Kirkburn |
| 15:20.35 | Kirkburn|22 | I h8 you |
| 15:20.42 | Thunder_Child2 | <3 |
| 15:20.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i turned a little pink and didn't hurt, but yesterday i woke up with the sunburn itching worse than a vietnamese hooker |
| 15:20.58 | Kirkburn|22 | Why are you smiling? :*( |
| 15:21.00 | MrTorture | Lol Kaso... I realize why I didn't continue programing and stuff after what I did xP |
| 15:21.24 | Cide | AnduinLothar: http://wowi.pastey.net/17649 |
| 15:21.52 | AnduinLothar | ugh... it's FuBar moving the MainMenuBar |
| 15:22.03 | Thunder_Child2 | who was smileing? |
| 15:22.46 | AnduinLothar | nifty cide |
| 15:23.07 | AnduinLothar | wonder if it still works with MMB, i haven't used CTRA in a while |
| 15:23.15 | Cide | that's not ctra, that's ct_core |
| 15:23.19 | Cide | but in any case, no idea |
| 15:23.31 | AnduinLothar | did you recode ctra? |
| 15:23.42 | Kirkburn|22 | I recoded your mom |
| 15:23.42 | Cide | working on it |
| 15:23.59 | Cide | Kirkburn|22: I demand you change your name to Kirkburn++ |
| 15:24.01 | AnduinLothar | ah yeah ok, then don't listen to me. i was thinkign ctra |
| 15:24.12 | Cide | happy birthday in any case! |
| 15:24.26 | Kaso | Cide: so i notice in that code you have if ( dist < 85 ) to see if its attached to the minimap? cant you just throw a setparent in there? |
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| 15:24.30 | AnduinLothar | So I was gonna use fubar... |
| 15:24.35 | Cide | Kaso: sure, I could |
| 15:24.44 | Cide | but it's still a design decision |
| 15:24.47 | AnduinLothar | i even got the pretty textures added |
| 15:24.50 | Kirkburn|22 | Cide, thankies :) |
| 15:24.56 | Kaso | fair enough |
| 15:24.58 | Cide | so I'm going to let Ts decide what to do |
| 15:25.16 | AnduinLothar | but nooooo... it has to be dumb and move the MainMenuBar even after i disable the frame auto moving... |
| 15:25.53 | AnduinLothar | ckknight: that's you |
| 15:27.00 | AnduinLothar | you have a 10s repeating AceEvent that is moving the MainMenuBar back to whereever it was when FuBar first loaded |
| 15:27.27 | AnduinLothar | it should stop repeating if you have auto-adjust disabled |
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| 15:33.06 | Nom- | we rock ^_^ |
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| 15:39.48 | Nom- | Everything one-shotted, one wipe (from some kind of bug that aggroed half the instance to us lol) |
| 15:40.56 | sysrage | where? |
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| 15:49.38 | Shirik | ahaha |
| 15:49.53 | Shirik | raid leader just instituted a new rule - you have to have all class skills trained to join the raid |
| 15:50.04 | Shirik | Because some hunter never trained misdirection.... |
| 15:50.08 | Scre3m | LOL |
| 15:50.08 | Shirik | How do you skip out on that >< |
| 15:50.30 | Nom- | respec |
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| 15:50.35 | Shirik | respeccing doesn't drop misdirection :P |
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| 15:53.47 | MrTorture | Okay.... So anyone wanna give me opinions on this spec for a shaman.... http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=uZxVfdV0sAuqoEbc |
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| 16:33.05 | Shirik | anyone around that understands how tail calls work? |
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| 16:33.29 | zenzelezz | tail calls? |
| 16:33.48 | Shirik | it's basically an optimizing feature in Lua... take for example |
| 16:34.02 | Shirik | function b() return 4; end function a() return b(); end |
| 16:34.13 | pastamancer | it's a goto |
| 16:34.19 | Shirik | a performs a tail call to b, which means it becomes a goto instead of a call |
| 16:34.26 | Shirik | pastamancer: Ok the question is |
| 16:34.31 | pastamancer | it means there's no extra stack frame allocated |
| 16:34.32 | Shirik | Does this become a tail call: |
| 16:34.46 | Shirik | function b() end function a() b(); end |
| 16:34.54 | Shirik | without "return," but it's the last line in the function |
| 16:34.59 | pastamancer | no |
| 16:35.02 | pastamancer | it must be a return |
| 16:35.03 | zenzelezz | is it something like inline function expansion or whatever C/C++ calls the thing? |
| 16:35.11 | Shirik | so it would be better to say return b(), even if b returns nothing |
| 16:35.14 | cogwheel | function foo() foo() end does iirc |
| 16:35.34 | cogwheel | (or i may be thinking of some other similar construct) |
| 16:35.38 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Not really because inline functions result in it literally being imbeded in the function |
| 16:35.41 | pastamancer | it's only "better" if the semantics support it |
| 16:35.55 | Shirik | Yeah the operation would work fine if I do it |
| 16:35.57 | pastamancer | cogwheel: no, without an explicit return, it has to eat any potential return values |
| 16:36.01 | Shirik | I was just wondering if it was necessary |
| 16:36.05 | zenzelezz | Shirik: I'm aware of what inline functions do, it's the tail thing I'm not sure about; thus the question :) |
| 16:36.24 | pastamancer | zenzelezz: tailcall = longjmp |
| 16:36.30 | cogwheel | >>> function foo() return foo() end foo() |
| 16:36.31 | Shirik | zenzelezz: The difference is a tail call doesn't result in greater bytecode size. Inline functions result in a larger executable for every call |
| 16:36.36 | Cide | cogwheel: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 16:36.51 | cogwheel | >>> function foo() foo() end foo() |
| 16:36.51 | Cide | cogwheel: d:\lua\input.tmp:169: stack overflow |
| 16:36.58 | Shirik | and there's the answer |
| 16:37.08 | Shirik | thanks :) |
| 16:37.25 | pastamancer | that's what I said :p |
| 16:37.28 | cogwheel | yep |
| 16:37.30 | Shirik | I know :) |
| 16:37.36 | cogwheel | I was just demonstrating it :) |
| 16:37.38 | pastamancer | don't go around adding tail calls just for the hell of it |
| 16:37.41 | Shirik | It's thanks to both of you |
| 16:37.45 | Shirik | nah, here I'll show you what I have |
| 16:38.04 | pastamancer | it's not worth avoiding a stack frame if your function really isn't supposed to return anything |
| 16:38.20 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/17682 |
| 16:38.20 | pastamancer | they're most useful when using recursion instead of looping |
| 16:38.37 | pastamancer | and there's actually a formulaic way to transform looping <-> recursion |
| 16:38.48 | Shirik | yeah I've seen that |
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| 16:39.31 | pastamancer | oh, yeah that would be an acceptable place for tail calls even though it's not recursive |
| 16:39.46 | pastamancer | because those functions are alias-ish |
| 16:39.50 | Shirik | right |
| 16:40.05 | Shirik | I mean, I wouldn't have had all those made, but unfortunately it's a limitation of HOT.SigUpdate |
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| 16:40.21 | Shirik | So... I can't pass values directly from the handler |
| 16:42.33 | Shirik | thanks for the recommendations you two :) |
| 16:47.10 | kahdgarx1 | is there a good way to check if a variable exists? |
| 16:47.19 | kahdgarx1 | i'm trying if ver == nil then blah |
| 16:47.38 | kahdgarx1 | but that's giving me an error due to indexing an unknown variable |
| 16:47.39 | Shirik | if var could ever be false |
| 16:47.41 | Shirik | then that's right |
| 16:47.44 | Shirik | ummm |
| 16:47.53 | Shirik | I think you're not giving us the full context ;) |
| 16:47.56 | Shirik | Because that's right |
| 16:48.00 | kahdgarx1 | hmm... |
| 16:48.07 | Shirik | now, if you're not talking about boolean variables |
| 16:48.12 | Shirik | You actually can shorten that to |
| 16:48.16 | Shirik | if not ver then |
| 16:48.22 | kahdgarx1 | i tried that too |
| 16:48.25 | Shirik | right |
| 16:48.30 | kahdgarx1 | hmm.... |
| 16:48.31 | cogwheel | then you're not telling us something important |
| 16:48.32 | Shirik | which is why I'm saying you aren't giving us the full context ;) |
| 16:48.36 | kahdgarx1 | i'm in a multi-tiered table |
| 16:48.37 | Shirik | I'm thinking you're accessing a table |
| 16:48.57 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:48.58 | kahdgarx1 | ! |
| 16:49.03 | Shirik | if a does not exist |
| 16:49.05 | kahdgarx1 | ^^ idea bubble |
| 16:49.06 | Shirik | then a.b cannot be accessed |
| 16:49.20 | kahdgarx1 | yeah, just figured that out >_> |
| 16:49.21 | Shirik | >>> if not a.b then return "No!"; end |
| 16:49.21 | Cide | Shirik: [string "if not a.b then return "No!"; end"]:1: attempt to index global 'a' (a nil value) |
| 16:49.26 | Shirik | look familiar? |
| 16:49.47 | kahdgarx1 | not one bit! >_> |
| 16:49.51 | Shirik | hehe |
| 16:50.33 | kahdgarx1 | woo :) |
| 16:50.41 | kahdgarx1 | bug = smashed |
| 16:53.10 | Shirik | hm, you can't use setfenv() and pass in nil instead of a table :( |
| 16:55.59 | cogwheel | trying to reset it to the default global environment? |
| 16:56.16 | Shirik | nah I was just kinda curious |
| 16:56.21 | Shirik | trying to block globals from being made |
| 16:56.56 | Shirik | (this is how I find stuff out, just poking it and seeing what explodes) |
| 16:57.48 | kahdgarx1 | I really need to rewrite my code so all my functions are in a container table. |
| 16:57.56 | Shirik | yes! |
| 16:58.08 | Shirik | well at least all of your globally accessible ones |
| 16:58.22 | Shirik | if you look at the one I just posted not too long ago |
| 16:58.22 | Shirik | 12:38:27 ‹Shirik› http://wowi.pastey.net/17682 |
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| 16:58.34 | Shirik | I have a local function to help with some things |
| 16:59.18 | kahdgarx1 | hmm |
| 16:59.19 | kahdgarx1 | so |
| 16:59.30 | kahdgarx1 | if i throw 'local' before a function name, it's only accessible inside that file? |
| 16:59.40 | cogwheel | yes |
| 16:59.49 | kahdgarx1 | hmmm |
| 16:59.51 | Cairenn | at a beach? |
| 16:59.52 | kahdgarx1 | well that makes things easier |
| 16:59.59 | kahdgarx1 | nope, desert |
| 17:00.00 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: wherever you prefer |
| 17:00.08 | Cairenn | warm |
| 17:00.11 | kahdgarx1 | wait, even better |
| 17:00.13 | kahdgarx1 | swamp |
| 17:00.14 | kahdgarx1 | :p |
| 17:00.54 | kahdgarx1 | hmm |
| 17:01.02 | zenzelezz | if you make a function local, it can not be accessed in your own .xmls either? |
| 17:01.12 | kahdgarx1 | is throwihng an _ before a function name a common convention to signify a local function? |
| 17:01.45 | Shirik | it's a convention I use which signifies it isn't meant to be used externally |
| 17:01.46 | kahdgarx1 | i swear, i'm the worst coder on the planet :P |
| 17:01.50 | Shirik | it's used for the internal operations of the class |
| 17:02.51 | Shirik | but you can use it however you want |
| 17:02.53 | Shirik | it's just what I do |
| 17:03.17 | zenzelezz | I think my other self suffers from schizophrenia |
| 17:03.25 | kahdgarx1 | heh |
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| 17:12.28 | cogwheel | Cide: mind joining #dongle for some bottage? |
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| 17:18.40 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, meep! |
| 17:18.49 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: moop! |
| 17:18.58 | Kirkburn | honk honk |
| 17:19.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:19.35 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 17:19.49 | MrTorture | Anyone here play a shaman? |
| 17:20.18 | Kirkburn | Unfortunately I want to throttle ClearFont2 atm, or at least whatever is making the release revision stoopid |
| 17:20.55 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 17:20.57 | Kirkburn | I bet it's not my fault :P |
| 17:20.59 | zenzelezz | you broke it? ;-p |
| 17:21.34 | Kirkburn | I haven't got a clue right now |
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| 17:27.26 | Shirik | Kirkburn: You mean the 132? |
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| 17:32.06 | Legorol|alt | morning folks |
| 17:32.09 | Legorol|alt | are the PTR down? |
| 17:32.11 | Shirik | morning |
| 17:32.15 | Legorol|alt | bleh, nick |
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| 17:32.28 | Shirik | you uh |
| 17:32.34 | Shirik | realize you don't have to quit to change your nick, right? |
| 17:32.45 | TC-Working | it didnt change anyways |
| 17:32.46 | zenzelezz | and that you didn't yet change your nick |
| 17:32.56 | Legorol|alt | better |
| 17:32.58 | Legorol|alt | not better |
| 17:32.59 | Kirkburn | Shirik, nope |
| 17:33.04 | Legorol|alt | yeah i do realise both those, but mirc is screwing with me :/ |
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| 17:33.11 | Shirik | ek |
| 17:33.15 | Shirik | does he realize his ghost is on? |
| 17:33.37 | zenzelezz | seems he figured |
| 17:33.38 | Shirik | guess he figured it out :P |
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| 17:34.51 | Legorol | aaah, better |
| 17:34.57 | Legorol | aaaanyway, does anyone know how long/why are the PTR down? |
| 17:35.06 | Legorol | is it because of the new patch? |
| 17:35.07 | TC-Working | because Shirik borke it |
| 17:35.09 | Legorol | lol |
| 17:35.42 | Shirik | "$2.43 USD / 50g, Seasonal promotion!" |
| 17:35.45 | Shirik | Wtf season is it? |
| 17:35.59 | kahdgarx1 | gold buying season! |
| 17:36.01 | foxlit | Advent of 2.1! |
| 17:37.11 | Kaso | Spring? |
| 17:37.25 | Kaso | Or is that too sensible of an aweser |
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| 17:41.09 | pastamancer | it's gold-buying season of couse |
| 17:41.58 | TC-Working | hmm...4GB SD card for 19.99 |
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| 17:42.29 | Shirik | wow |
| 17:42.32 | pastamancer | that's a lot of candid photos if your camera takes SD |
| 17:42.37 | TC-Working | http://woot.binarydata.net/ |
| 17:42.44 | Shirik | is that to woot.com? |
| 17:42.48 | TC-Working | there's a wootoff today |
| 17:42.52 | Shirik | ack |
| 17:42.54 | TC-Working | kinda, it's a woot watcher |
| 17:43.04 | TC-Working | woot gets to many hits with ppl refreshing |
| 17:43.05 | Shirik | man, last time there was a wootoff |
| 17:43.10 | Shirik | There was one thing I desparately wanted |
| 17:43.12 | Shirik | and I knew it was there |
| 17:43.17 | TC-Working | so there are other pages to handle the loads |
| 17:43.19 | Shirik | because they had this glitch where they jumped ahead two items then went back |
| 17:43.27 | Shirik | So I was just waiting for it... constantly |
| 17:43.35 | Shirik | And it appeared, and I insta-buy |
| 17:43.40 | Shirik | And I started filling out the information |
| 17:43.43 | Shirik | And... OUT OF STOCK |
| 17:43.45 | Shirik | and I cried |
| 17:44.09 | Shirik | it was a pretty nice 1000W speaker system |
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| 17:51.27 | TC-Working | ~bitchslap Thunder_Child damit, dont lose conectivity |
| 17:51.34 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Thunder_Child damit, dont lose conectivity |
| 17:51.56 | Shirik | Or tell that peer of yours to stop resetting your connection! |
| 17:54.52 | TC-Working | damit it's hard to talk about myself in 3rd person * 3rd person...or something like that |
| 17:58.28 | Sixen | ~sex |
| 17:58.30 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 17:58.47 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:58.47 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 17:58.52 | Shirik | that's awesome |
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| 17:59.16 | Sixen | Heh, oops. |
| 17:59.24 | zenzelezz | I was never that much a fan of that factoid |
| 17:59.28 | Sixen | ~purge condom |
| 17:59.30 | Sixen | = |
| 17:59.30 | zenzelezz | the apt-get really ruins it |
| 17:59.30 | Sixen | =[ |
| 17:59.38 | Sixen | ~mount |
| 17:59.40 | purl | mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 17:59.43 | pastamancer | yeah, that wasn't in the original |
| 17:59.45 | Sixen | ~gasp |
| 18:00.18 | batrick | does anyone understand what this error means/is:Spellcraft\Spellcraft.lua:1375: SC_ItemTooltip:SetHyperlink(): Unknown link type |
| 18:00.23 | pastamancer | gasp is part of the gnu assembler, IIRC |
| 18:00.33 | Shirik | batrick: The link you're passing is invalid |
| 18:00.33 | Sixen | batrick: It seems like an unknown link type. |
| 18:00.35 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.36 | Sixen | =[ |
| 18:04.30 | batrick | hmm |
| 18:04.33 | batrick | it's always funny |
| 18:04.54 | batrick | when you find a bug in your code, that never shows up for you, but someone else gets it |
| 18:04.54 | batrick | and |
| 18:05.08 | batrick | you find that what you did shouldn't be working at all, but it is,... for you |
| 18:05.14 | batrick | lmao |
| 18:05.19 | kahdgarx1 | haha |
| 18:05.19 | Shirik | ah yes |
| 18:05.34 | foxlit | Get that a lot with moderately complex systems when you can't use all of it. |
| 18:05.50 | zenzelezz | you mean you don't hardcode errors into your addons that will fire for players not named the same as you? |
| 18:06.00 | Shirik | rofl |
| 18:06.06 | Shirik | I kinda did something like that once |
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| 18:06.19 | sysrage | figures |
| 18:06.19 | Shirik | I disabled something for my nick once because I was getting annoyed by it |
| 18:06.29 | Shirik | then when I released it.... |
| 18:06.35 | Shirik | that block of code wasn't working anymore |
| 18:06.39 | Shirik | but I didn't know :P |
| 18:06.48 | batrick | lol |
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| 18:13.18 | batrick | man i'm looking at my code, that was broken, I have no idea how it was working before |
| 18:13.19 | batrick | lol |
| 18:13.27 | foxlit | Sheer luck! |
| 18:13.40 | batrick | has to be! |
| 18:13.55 | foxlit | WoW needs more smaller widescreen resolutions |
| 18:14.02 | foxlit | Can't raid and code at the same time comfortably :/ |
| 18:14.14 | batrick | the solution |
| 18:14.15 | batrick | is |
| 18:14.17 | batrick | another monitor |
| 18:14.17 | sysrage | get 2 monitors |
| 18:14.30 | foxlit | But they take up deskspace! |
| 18:14.33 | batrick | believe me |
| 18:14.42 | batrick | it's the best... BEST... investment |
| 18:14.43 | TC-Working | not really |
| 18:14.44 | batrick | you'll ever make |
| 18:14.45 | zenzelezz | LCDs |
| 18:14.49 | zenzelezz | don't take much space |
| 18:14.57 | sysrage | just put your stash of kleenex and KY on the floor. plenty of desk space |
| 18:15.05 | batrick | haha |
| 18:15.20 | TC-Working | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/471981886_d7f0531d9c_b.jpg |
| 18:15.36 | foxlit | Widescreen LCDs :/ |
| 18:15.37 | batrick | looks like digital blasphemy |
| 18:15.38 | TC-Working | those are dual 22" |
| 18:15.38 | batrick | amirite? |
| 18:15.43 | TC-Working | no, me |
| 18:15.50 | batrick | you made that? |
| 18:15.52 | batrick | looks nice |
| 18:15.53 | TC-Working | yes |
| 18:15.55 | TC-Working | ty |
| 18:16.07 | batrick | i got that keyboard too |
| 18:16.09 | batrick | i love it ^^ |
| 18:16.20 | TC-Working | i dont use the lcd on it...and i should |
| 18:16.26 | batrick | man |
| 18:16.30 | foxlit | Meh, Atlasloot bugs you about being out-of-sync with atlas on every update. |
| 18:16.32 | batrick | I do the same thing with my monitors |
| 18:16.33 | foxlit | EVIL!! |
| 18:16.35 | batrick | have them tilted |
| 18:16.40 | batrick | except i have a lamp in between them |
| 18:16.51 | TC-Working | i want to get a third and put it inbetween |
| 18:16.54 | chuckg | Anyone have any ideas on how to strip out color codes *without* stripping them from itemlinks? |
| 18:17.06 | batrick | umm |
| 18:17.08 | foxlit | Sure |
| 18:17.11 | batrick | creative string manipulation :D |
| 18:17.14 | chuckg | string_gsub(str, "|cff.......([^|].-)|r", "%1") |
| 18:17.17 | chuckg | That's what i'm trying now. |
| 18:17.23 | chuckg | It's stripping the color code out of itemlinks though. |
| 18:17.27 | foxlit | Yeah, well, that strips itemlinks too. |
| 18:17.39 | chuckg | Shouldn't! Doesn't in a /dump gsub of it :( |
| 18:17.47 | chuckg | It does, but I don't understand why. |
| 18:19.58 | foxlit | Thinking, sec |
| 18:20.12 | foxlit | (or, rather, healing mag trash) |
| 18:20.29 | Shirik | chuckg: |
| 18:20.35 | zenzelezz | are you certain that the string you're passing to it is actually the same that you tested with? |
| 18:20.58 | chuckg | gsub("|cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r", "|cff.......([^|].-)|r", "%1") |
| 18:21.02 | chuckg | That's my working model. |
| 18:21.06 | Shirik | eew |
| 18:21.10 | chuckg | Pulled straight from WoWWiki. |
| 18:21.24 | Shirik | that's.... an evil pattern, but ok |
| 18:21.31 | Shirik | what do you want to get? |
| 18:21.33 | chuckg | And if you do: /dump gsub("|cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r", "|cff.......([^|].-)|r", "%1") |
| 18:21.34 | chuckg | IT works. |
| 18:21.34 | batrick | chuck |
| 18:21.44 | batrick | your problem is probably a special character |
| 18:21.47 | batrick | that you need to escape |
| 18:22.08 | Shirik | ummmmm |
| 18:22.09 | batrick | like dash is special |
| 18:22.13 | Shirik | I think you're missing a | there |
| 18:22.14 | batrick | unless |
| 18:22.17 | batrick | i'm not reading it right |
| 18:22.24 | cogwheel | batrick: yes... he's using the dash for its special purpose :P |
| 18:22.42 | Shirik | oh I guess... wtf |
| 18:22.44 | batrick | ok just checking |
| 18:22.47 | foxlit | Btw, if you do that in a dump |
| 18:22.50 | Shirik | that pattern should really be adjusted -_- |
| 18:22.59 | foxlit | "[^|]" becomes "[^||]" |
| 18:23.12 | cogwheel | foxlit: no... |
| 18:23.30 | Shirik | wtf... |
| 18:23.37 | cogwheel | oh wait |
| 18:23.40 | cogwheel | I see what you mean |
| 18:23.42 | Shirik | cogwheel: yes it does in chat |
| 18:23.50 | Shirik | that is just |
| 18:23.53 | Shirik | wtf... |
| 18:23.57 | Shirik | Who made that pattern, seriously |
| 18:24.14 | Shirik | yes it works.... |
| 18:24.23 | cogwheel | I came up with something similar off the top of my head :P |
| 18:24.31 | Shirik | Extreme overuse of . |
| 18:24.32 | TC-Working | heh, Shirik thinks it's fugly |
| 18:24.49 | cogwheel | Shirik: there's no way to specify a particular number of chars |
| 18:24.55 | cogwheel | in lua patterns |
| 18:24.56 | Shirik | true |
| 18:25.00 | foxlit | [0-9a-f] is uglier |
| 18:25.02 | Shirik | but I ignored that |
| 18:25.11 | Shirik | ok, but why not a | instead of . |
| 18:25.13 | Shirik | it HAS to be a | |
| 18:25.17 | foxlit | There's probably a hex wildcard too. |
| 18:25.26 | batrick | cogwheel, sure there is |
| 18:25.32 | batrick | just use sets one after another? |
| 18:25.49 | foxlit | cog's right. |
| 18:26.01 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:26.04 | foxlit | In regex, you can do for example [abc]{3,8} |
| 18:26.07 | pastamancer | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.10 | Shirik | right |
| 18:26.15 | Shirik | and it doesn't exist in Lua |
| 18:26.16 | Shirik | I know that |
| 18:26.19 | foxlit | No LUA equivalent of that without typing things out |
| 18:26.23 | cogwheel | I find |c[0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F][0-9a-fA-F] far fuglier than |c........ |
| 18:26.25 | Shirik | I'm just annoyed at, for example, the ....... |
| 18:26.29 | Shirik | instead of ......| |
| 18:26.34 | Shirik | as well as other things |
| 18:26.43 | foxlit | What's | for? |
| 18:26.44 | batrick | cogwheel, i'm just saying it's possible >.> |
| 18:26.44 | chuckg | So like I said. |
| 18:26.46 | chuckg | It's weird. |
| 18:26.47 | batrick | not saying it's pretty |
| 18:26.47 | chuckg | The pattern works. |
| 18:26.48 | batrick | lol |
| 18:26.48 | chuckg | But doesn't. |
| 18:26.53 | chuckg | Works in dump. |
| 18:26.53 | cogwheel | Shirik: the point is to capture anything that's NOT an item link |
| 18:26.56 | chuckg | Doesn't work in practice. |
| 18:27.22 | Shirik | ok... |
| 18:27.30 | Shirik | what if I made an item link starting with |cee ? |
| 18:27.40 | TC-Working | foxlit, | is a pipe in most places..i dunno if it's the sdame here |
| 18:27.41 | Shirik | technically not legal, but possible |
| 18:27.45 | chuckg | My pattern doesn't care. |
| 18:27.45 | TC-Working | same* |
| 18:27.48 | cogwheel | that's why I suggested ........ instead of ff........ |
| 18:27.50 | Shirik | eh, whatever |
| 18:27.52 | foxlit | TC-Working: no LUA regex OR |
| 18:27.53 | pastamancer | %x is the pattern for hex digits |
| 18:27.54 | Shirik | I'll go to sleep now |
| 18:28.12 | chuckg | Oh yea, cog had all dots. |
| 18:28.21 | chuckg | I just changed it to cff for readability. |
| 18:28.25 | batrick | cogwheel, o ... sorry lol, pays to follow the entire conv, rather than glancing at it from time to time |
| 18:28.37 | Shirik | yeah, I /did/ think it was trying to capture links >.> |
| 18:28.47 | chuckg | Nope, *just* colorcodes. |
| 18:28.57 | Shirik | um |
| 18:28.58 | chuckg | So |cff1eff00Some Text|r. |
| 18:29.06 | Shirik | ok color that is not a link |
| 18:29.06 | chuckg | But not |cff1eff00itemlinkstuff|r |
| 18:29.09 | chuckg | Right. |
| 18:29.26 | Shirik | um |
| 18:29.31 | Shirik | why not just search for |h inside? |
| 18:29.54 | Shirik | (just a suggestion) |
| 18:30.29 | foxlit | That's what it does, actually |
| 18:30.39 | chuckg | It does that, but from the front. |
| 18:31.03 | Shirik | I see a distinct lack of "h" in there, but regardless, I need to go to sleep |
| 18:31.07 | Shirik | I'm acting stupid right now |
| 18:31.18 | foxlit | The assumption is that all hyperlinks must begin with | |
| 18:31.20 | foxlit | and that nothing else does |
| 18:31.49 | chuckg | Right, I cut out the [^H]? |
| 18:32.01 | chuckg | Because that would hinder any colored text with "Hello" |
| 18:32.02 | chuckg | :) |
| 18:33.09 | foxlit | Uh |
| 18:33.11 | Shirik | |c........[^|].-|r |
| 18:33.18 | Shirik | hm |
| 18:33.18 | foxlit | Wonder why it cuts the | when run from LUA as well |
| 18:33.34 | Shirik | is there an or in ... no there isn't |
| 18:33.35 | foxlit | That must mean something interesting |
| 18:33.36 | Shirik | I go away now |
| 18:33.45 | chuckg | |cff......([^|]?.-)|r |
| 18:33.49 | chuckg | That works perfectly in dump. |
| 18:33.53 | Shirik|zZz | no it doesnt |
| 18:33.53 | chuckg | 100%. |
| 18:33.59 | Shirik|zZz | try this |
| 18:34.06 | Shirik|zZz | |cffffffff||Hello|r |
| 18:34.12 | Shirik|zZz | which is valid white colored text "|Hello" |
| 18:34.15 | chuckg | Why would I have ||Hello? |
| 18:34.16 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: see, Jostle is independent of FuBar. When FuBar disables auto-adjust, it removes all the FuBar references from Jostle, but Jostle will still update. Though I could theoretically make it stop updating due to optimization reasons. |
| 18:34.19 | chuckg | :( |
| 18:34.20 | Shirik|zZz | Because the | becomes escaped with || |
| 18:34.29 | foxlit | Your original problem had the wrong number of .s |
| 18:34.31 | chuckg | Only in Dump. |
| 18:34.38 | Shirik|zZz | no |
| 18:34.39 | Shirik|zZz | always |
| 18:34.41 | foxlit | string.gsub("|cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r", "|cff......([^|].-)|r", "%1") works fine in LUA |
| 18:34.50 | chuckg | I fixd that foxlit. |
| 18:34.52 | foxlit | (i.e. you get a gold bar link out of it) |
| 18:34.52 | chuckg | Didn't change anything. |
| 18:35.29 | pastamancer | >>> string.find("|cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r", "|cff(%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r") |
| 18:35.29 | Cide | pastamancer: 1, 59, "1eff00", "|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h" |
| 18:37.39 | chuckg | Oh that's handy. |
| 18:37.49 | chuckg | I didn't know cide had a builtin LUA dingy. |
| 18:38.57 | chuckg | >>> gsub("|cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r", "|cff......([^|]?.-)|r", "%1") |
| 18:38.58 | Cide | chuckg: "|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h", 1 |
| 18:39.03 | chuckg | See! :( |
| 18:39.08 | chuckg | Err no see. |
| 18:39.12 | chuckg | Wrong. |
| 18:39.13 | pastamancer | >>> line = "|cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r"; s1,e1, color, text = string.find(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r"); if not string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h") then return text else return line end |
| 18:39.13 | Cide | pastamancer: "|cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r" |
| 18:39.32 | pastamancer | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; s1,e1, color, text = string.find(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r"); if not string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h") then return text else return line end |
| 18:39.32 | Cide | pastamancer: "||Hello" |
| 18:39.42 | chuckg | Genius. |
| 18:40.15 | pastamancer | you're going to need two steps like that due to the limitations of lua's pattern matching |
| 18:40.24 | chuckg | K. |
| 18:40.40 | pastamancer | the fun part is replacing colors in the middle of a string |
| 18:41.14 | chuckg | You mean there's more? D= |
| 18:42.11 | foxlit | Why don't you just replace with a custom function? |
| 18:42.20 | chuckg | That's in a custom function. |
| 18:42.23 | chuckg | Haha. |
| 18:42.32 | pastamancer | ah, I forgot gsub could do that |
| 18:42.55 | foxlit | string.gsub(str, pattern, function) |
| 18:43.15 | chuckg | Explain. |
| 18:43.20 | chuckg | Please. |
| 18:43.29 | pastamancer | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r", function (text) if not string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h") then return text else return line end) |
| 18:43.29 | Cide | pastamancer: [string "line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%..."]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 18:43.55 | foxlit | pastamancer: for bonus points, add $ on the end of the .match |
| 18:44.02 | batrick | pastamancer, you need single quotes |
| 18:44.04 | cogwheel | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.gsub |
| 18:44.05 | batrick | for the pattern |
| 18:44.18 | cogwheel | batrick: huh? |
| 18:44.24 | batrick | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r", function (text) if not string.match(text, '^|H(.-)|h') then return text else return line end) |
| 18:44.24 | Cide | batrick: [string "line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%..."]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 18:44.28 | batrick | o nvm |
| 18:44.42 | batrick | i got a similar error once, and it was caused by double quotes |
| 18:45.00 | foxlit | That was caused by you not escaping properly |
| 18:45.01 | cogwheel | batrick: ' == " as far as lua's concerned... the only reason to use one over the other is if you need to use one in the string |
| 18:45.27 | batrick | ya i understand that |
| 18:45.59 | batrick | all I'm saying is i had a wierd error once where it was fixed by single quotes, I didn't have time to look at it (and I didn't have double quotes in my pattern) |
| 18:46.20 | cogwheel | you had to have double quotes in your pattern or it wouldn't have errored... |
| 18:46.45 | pastamancer | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r", function (color, text) if string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") then return text; else return string.format("|c%s%s|r", color, text); end) |
| 18:46.45 | Cide | pastamancer: [string "line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%..."]:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 18:47.01 | pastamancer | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r", function (color, text) if string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") then return text; else return string.format("|c%s%s|r", color, text); end end) |
| 18:47.01 | Cide | pastamancer: nil |
| 18:47.07 | pastamancer | oh , right |
| 18:47.17 | pastamancer | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r", function (color, text) if string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") then return text; else return string.format("|c%s%s|r", color, text); end end); return line |
| 18:47.17 | Cide | pastamancer: "|cff1eff00||Hello|r" |
| 18:47.52 | chuckg | Isn't: if not match |
| 18:48.02 | foxlit | pastamancer: capture the whole thing as well |
| 18:48.03 | chuckg | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.05 | foxlit | saves the format call |
| 18:48.07 | chuckg | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r", function (color, text) if not string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") then return text; else return string.format("|c%s%s|r", color, text); end end); return line |
| 18:48.07 | Cide | chuckg: "|cff1eff00||Hello|r" |
| 18:48.11 | chuckg | Guess not. |
| 18:48.18 | batrick | anyways, i'm out i'll cya guys later |
| 18:48.23 | batrick | gl with that pattern thing chuck |
| 18:49.20 | chuckg | >>> line = "|cff1eff00Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "|c(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)(.-)|r", function (color, text) if not string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") then return text; else return string.format("|c%s%s|r", color, text); end end); return line |
| 18:49.21 | Cide | chuckg: "|cff1eff00Hello|r" |
| 18:49.43 | foxlit | line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "(|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x(.-)|r)", function (full, text) return string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") and text or full end); return line |
| 18:49.57 | chuckg | Need >>> |
| 18:50.13 | foxlit | Didn't want it to be evaluated |
| 18:50.17 | chuckg | Oh. |
| 18:50.24 | foxlit | But it should work anyway |
| 18:50.26 | foxlit | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "(|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x(.-)|r)", function (full, text) return string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") and text or full end); return line |
| 18:50.26 | Cide | foxlit: "|cff1eff00||Hello|r" |
| 18:50.42 | foxlit | It's just a bit shorter |
| 18:50.49 | chuckg | That isn't correct return though. |
| 18:50.56 | chuckg | Should be: ||Hello |
| 18:51.28 | foxlit | um, yes. |
| 18:51.35 | foxlit | >>> line = "|cff1eff00||Hello|r"; string.gsub(line, "(|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x(.-)|r)", function (full, text) return string.match(text, "^|H(.-)|h$") and full or text end); return line |
| 18:51.35 | Cide | foxlit: "|cff1eff00||Hello|r" |
| 18:51.53 | chuckg | I'm trying to strip color codes from non-itemlinks. |
| 18:51.58 | chuckg | That would not do it. |
| 18:52.52 | foxlit | Interesting, something isn't behaving quite like it should |
| 18:53.22 | foxlit | Let me just look something up |
| 18:53.35 | krka | my FAIAP has methods for stripping away color codes |
| 18:53.42 | chuckg | What are the arguments passed if you make the return a function? |
| 18:53.46 | krka | well, really only one method |
| 18:53.48 | pastamancer | >>> line = "foo |cff1eff00||Hello|r bar |cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r"; return line:gsub("(|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x(.-)|r)", function (full, text) if text:match("^|H.-|h$") then return full else return text; end end) |
| 18:53.48 | Cide | pastamancer: "foo ||Hello bar |cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r", 2 |
| 18:53.52 | chuckg | How are those determined? The gsub's matches? |
| 18:53.54 | chuckg | Or captures? |
| 18:54.09 | pastamancer | forgot that gsub isn't destructive |
| 18:54.40 | krka | how do you mean destructive? |
| 18:55.03 | pastamancer | gsub(line, whatever) doesn't change the contents of line, it returns the changed string |
| 18:55.43 | krka | you do know that nothing in lua can modify a string? |
| 18:55.56 | krka | no such thing as string destructive behaviour |
| 18:56.11 | pastamancer | lua isn't the only language I deal with on a daily basis :p |
| 18:56.25 | pastamancer | the rest of the world uses mutable strings |
| 18:56.37 | foxlit | pasta: think if you return nil, no replacement is made |
| 18:56.51 | pastamancer | oh, indeed |
| 18:57.14 | pastamancer | >>> line = "foo |cff1eff00||Hello|r bar |cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r"; return line:gsub("(|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x(.-)|r)", function (full, text) if not text:match("^|H.-|h$") then return text end end) |
| 18:57.14 | Cide | pastamancer: "foo ||Hello bar |cff1eff00|Hitem:3577:0:0:0:0:0:0:276308480|h[Gold Bar]|h|r", 2 |
| 18:57.17 | chuckg | "bad argument #2 string expect, got function" |
| 18:57.33 | chuckg | Oops my error. |
| 18:57.35 | chuckg | IGnore that ;) |
| 18:58.26 | krka | pastamancer: java doesn't |
| 18:58.30 | krka | i bet c# doesn't either |
| 18:58.41 | pastamancer | yuck and double yuck |
| 18:58.41 | krka | immutable strings are quite common |
| 18:58.59 | krka | i think javascript, perl, php, python also use immutable strings |
| 18:59.07 | chuckg | So what is the primary difference between the first and the second pastamancer? |
| 18:59.10 | pastamancer | strings in perl are very mutable |
| 18:59.14 | chuckg | The second doesn't have a return full text. |
| 18:59.18 | pastamancer | you can even use sub in perl as a lvalue |
| 18:59.38 | cogwheel | o.o |
| 18:59.44 | zenzelezz | off-topic, but what's a "mutable" or "immutable" string, speaking generally (not language-specific) |
| 18:59.50 | krka | mutable = changable |
| 18:59.57 | krka | immutable = unchangable |
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| 19:01.00 | krka | i really dont know much about perl - can you show me an example of a mutable string usage? |
| 19:01.02 | pastamancer | perl -e '$text = "foo"; substr($text, 2, 1) = "x"; print $text, "\n"' |
| 19:01.08 | krka | thanks |
| 19:01.19 | pastamancer | just like C |
| 19:01.39 | krka | so if you add $text2 = $text, and then output $text2, it gives the same as $text? |
| 19:01.58 | krka | (add that part right before substr) |
| 19:02.13 | pastamancer | perl -e '$t2 = $text = "foo"; substr($text, 2, 1) = "x"; print $text, "\n", $t2, "\n"' |
| 19:02.16 | pastamancer | fox |
| 19:02.18 | pastamancer | foo |
| 19:02.24 | chuckg | Ok so.. |
| 19:02.28 | chuckg | "invalid escape code" |
| 19:03.22 | krka | so, it copies the string, no reference |
| 19:03.28 | chuckg | http://svn.chuckg.org/trunk/mumble/copypaste.lua |
| 19:03.34 | chuckg | That's what I'm doing, btw. |
| 19:03.35 | pastamancer | references in perl are strange at best |
| 19:03.44 | chuckg | The relevant areas are local function strip() |
| 19:03.49 | chuckg | And SetItemRef = Function( |
| 19:04.38 | chuckg | Any ideas? |
| 19:04.46 | chuckg | Seems like the stripping is a-ok, now it's buggerd in the editbox. |
| 19:06.08 | pastamancer | krka: if you want to deal with references, it's like this |
| 19:06.10 | pastamancer | perl -e '$text = "foo"; $t2 = \$text; substr($text, 2, 1) = "x"; print $text, " ", $$t2, "\n"' |
| 19:06.13 | pastamancer | fox fox |
| 19:07.12 | pastamancer | also, ruby: |
| 19:07.14 | pastamancer | irb(main):001:0> "fox".gsub!("o", "a") |
| 19:07.14 | pastamancer | => "fax" |
| 19:07.21 | pastamancer | err, bad example |
| 19:07.37 | pastamancer | but gsub! does modify the string in addition to returning the modified value |
| 19:09.21 | chuckg | pastamancer, using your stripping that results in an "Invalid escape code in chat message": http://wowi.pastey.net/17724 |
| 19:09.31 | hugo | hi |
| 19:09.42 | hugo | anyone know whats wrong all my ace addons stoped work |
| 19:09.52 | zenzelezz | did you disable them? |
| 19:10.04 | zenzelezz | (sorry, couldn't resist) |
| 19:10.29 | hugo | no i updated them today using winaceupdater |
| 19:10.34 | hugo | they're all enabled and non work |
| 19:10.44 | hugo | sct, fubar, grid, etc all gone |
| 19:10.59 | sysrage | when was the last time you updated them before that? |
| 19:11.07 | hugo | like week |
| 19:11.23 | sysrage | couple days ago I had to update every single one or none would work. you might be missing one |
| 19:11.27 | hugo | gona try update again |
| 19:11.45 | sysrage | update them all even if they say there isn't a newer version than the oen you have |
| 19:12.26 | hugo | im updating often |
| 19:12.30 | hugo | it's the today update |
| 19:13.27 | sysrage | i blame Shirik|zZz |
| 19:13.44 | pastamancer | chuckg: I think the hyperlink is formatted wrong |
| 19:13.47 | pastamancer | err item link |
| 19:14.12 | chuckg | Well. |
| 19:14.30 | chuckg | That's just an example, I'm using it in the full breadth of hte addon. |
| 19:14.30 | chuckg | So the hyperlink isn't formatted wrong. |
| 19:14.40 | chuckg | http://svn.chuckg.org/trunk/mumble/copypaste.lua |
| 19:14.41 | pastamancer | there's really two '|h' codes in an item link? |
| 19:14.45 | chuckg | Yes. |
| 19:14.57 | chuckg | |H:data:data:data|h[Text]|h |
| 19:15.07 | pastamancer | oh, then that string looks valid |
| 19:15.29 | pastamancer | hm |
| 19:15.55 | chuckg | How do I get one from wow so we can be sure? |
| 19:16.03 | chuckg | \124\124 twice? |
| 19:16.10 | chuckg | Or three times, I guess. |
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| 19:18.07 | pastamancer | oh |
| 19:18.17 | pastamancer | you didn't copy/paste properly |
| 19:18.31 | chuckg | Oh? |
| 19:19.03 | pastamancer | http://wowi.pastey.net/17726 |
| 19:19.14 | pastamancer | look at line 4 of your pastey |
| 19:19.33 | chuckg | You talking about string_gsub and string_match ? |
| 19:19.45 | pastamancer | and the first argument to string_match is.... |
| 19:19.49 | chuckg | Oh. I bet it's at str. |
| 19:19.50 | chuckg | Gotcah ;) |
| 19:20.17 | chuckg | Or gotcha, guess it's cliche to typo after you just caught me miscopy/pasting. |
| 19:20.55 | pastamancer | cliché perhaps, but it never gets old |
| 19:21.25 | chuckg | Giving it a whirl. |
| 19:23.03 | chuckg | Works flawlessly. |
| 19:23.05 | chuckg | Thank you. |
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| 20:38.10 | TC-Working | it's so dead in here |
| 20:38.35 | TC-Working | i have seen graveyards with more life than this |
| 20:38.56 | [dRaCo] | i eated 'em al :/ |
| 20:39.09 | [dRaCo] | 'nough said. |
| 20:39.17 | Elkano | chaaannngggeeee? |
| 20:40.14 | TC-Working | huh? |
| 20:42.28 | Industrial | its not dead in here, people are just doing stuff |
| 20:42.47 | TC-Working | ...na, that cant be |
| 20:43.02 | Elkano | hey, got some change? |
| 20:43.04 | Industrial | I'm reinstalling my linux desktop :o |
| 20:43.06 | TC-Working | people have no lives outside of wowi-lounge...with the exception of WoW |
| 20:43.11 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.14 | Shirik|zZz | ha! |
| 20:43.22 | Shirik|zZz | You imply that authors have time to play WoW?! |
| 20:43.25 | Cairenn | I stole everyone's pants, thus everyone is too embarrassed to be seen in channel |
| 20:43.53 | Elkano | the pictures of you we got in exchange where worth every cm² of pants |
| 20:44.00 | Shirik|zZz | lol! |
| 20:45.55 | TC-Working | ~spit Thunder_Child |
| 20:45.57 | purl | ACTION hurls a huge goober onto Thunder_Child. |
| 20:46.08 | Cairenn | purl, you are disgusting |
| 20:46.10 | purl | Cairenn: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:46.42 | [dRaCo] | purl, explode |
| 20:46.44 | purl | BOOOM |
| 20:48.26 | [dRaCo] | he |
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| 20:50.46 | TC-Working | and it died again...bloody burst conversations |
| 20:51.00 | Cairenn | I tell you, it's the pants |
| 20:51.01 | Shirik|zZz | shh! |
| 20:51.19 | TC-Working | look, i am wearing my....err...damit Cairenn |
| 20:52.20 | TC-Working | i know my work is relaxed, but thats just not cool |
| 20:52.29 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 20:53.07 | cogwheel|work | I seem to have missed a fair bit |
| 20:53.17 | MrTorture | Anyone wanna give me criticism on a shaman build I'm thinking of using xP? |
| 20:53.22 | TC-Working | yea...pants |
| 20:54.17 | Cairenn | hey, don't fuss, I used to run into a channel/forum, run around the room, snag all the scotch and dark chocolate, dump it into the recliner and drag that back out of the room after me (as well as stealing all the pants) - I've mellowed |
| 20:54.57 | TC-Working | i dont drink or like chocolate, you can take all of that stuff that you like |
| 20:55.02 | TC-Working | i just want to keep my pants |
| 20:55.48 | TC-Working | ~slap Cairenn |
| 20:55.58 | purl | ACTION slaps Cairenn, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:55.58 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 20:57.28 | TC-Working | sooo....anyone else following the woot-off? |
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| 20:57.48 | Cairenn | woot-off? |
| 20:57.56 | TC-Working | yes, the woot-off |
| 20:58.02 | TC-Working | www.woot.com |
| 20:58.27 | TC-Working | usualy they do 1 item per day, woot-off's are as many as they can sell in one day |
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| 20:58.44 | TC-Working | really really good prices on electronic type stuff |
| 20:58.54 | Cairenn | huh, okay |
| 20:59.02 | TC-Working | i would reccomend http://thebreretons.com/wootoff/ for auto refreshing though |
| 20:59.10 | Cairenn | that's kinda ... different ... |
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| 21:00.15 | Cairenn|afk | off for dinner and to watch the play-offs on the big screen, back later |
| 21:01.30 | TC-Working | enjoy |
| 21:19.56 | Osagasu | Metinks Turbine made a bit of a mistake with the way they did their UI... |
| 21:20.29 | Shirik|zZz | why's that? |
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| 21:22.20 | Osagasu | Because I'm spoiled with WoW's ui system. >.> |
| 21:23.46 | Osagasu | As an RPer, they could have added a way for me to make chat macros and I'd have been very happy, in all reality. |
| 21:30.13 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.23 | Shirik|zZz | he's talking about another game hun ;) |
| 21:30.32 | Industrial | oh, read first. |
| 21:30.40 | Industrial | reply after. |
| 21:30.49 | Shirik|zZz | it's ok I don't follow that philosophy either |
| 21:31.28 | pastamancer | lotro? |
| 21:31.28 | TC-Working | heh |
| 21:31.35 | pastamancer | that's turbine, right? |
| 21:32.02 | TC-Working | do they have a lotri-lounge channel? |
| 21:53.39 | Osagasu | =P |
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| 22:08.58 | Shirik|Ecole | um |
| 22:08.58 | Shirik|Ecole | quick question |
| 22:08.58 | Shirik|Ecole | does [target=focus] actually have a purpose in /clearfocus ? |
| 22:09.16 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.46 | Shirik|Ecole | and /focus [target=focus,noexists] |
| 22:09.50 | Shirik|Ecole | that... also does nothing? |
| 22:10.14 | Shirik|Ecole | doesn't that say "Set your focus to your current focus if you don't have a focus" ? |
| 22:11.09 | JoshBorke | yes, that's what it says |
| 22:11.14 | JoshBorke | no |
| 22:11.29 | JoshBorke | i dunno |
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| 22:11.38 | JoshBorke | it's supposed to set your focus if you don't currently have one |
| 22:11.52 | JoshBorke | but i dunno if the syntax is right |
| 22:12.07 | JoshBorke | i haven't bothered with macros besides ctrl-c/v |
| 22:12.36 | Shirik|Ecole | wait Josh_Borke |
| 22:12.41 | Shirik|Ecole | does it set your focus to your target? |
| 22:12.43 | Shirik|Ecole | or to your focus? |
| 22:12.50 | sysrage | to your target |
| 22:12.52 | sysrage | i just tried it |
| 22:13.08 | sysrage | and it won't change focus if you have one |
| 22:13.17 | Cide | I think that's a special case |
| 22:13.21 | Guillotine | prize to whoever finds me the sound clip that plays in law and order when they find the dead body >.> |
| 22:13.34 | sysrage | dun dun |
| 22:13.37 | sysrage | i win! |
| 22:13.41 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.41 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 22:13.50 | Guillotine | I said it was dun dun! someone told me it was "bum bum" |
| 22:13.56 | Guillotine | but I need the actual sound clip :P |
| 22:14.02 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.14 | Cide | however, is probably not very smart :P |
| 22:14.20 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah cide that's what I thought it said >< |
| 22:14.26 | Shirik|Ecole | This is someone else's macro, I was checking it |
| 22:15.00 | Guillotine | Making an addon that alerts you when something appears in tracking on the minimap. Named "Stalker". At least for development |
| 22:15.05 | Shirik|Ecole | cogwheel|work you around? |
| 22:15.11 | Guillotine | but I need that sound to play when something appears >< |
| 22:15.28 | cogwheel|work | Shirik|Ecole: mostly :) |
| 22:15.34 | Shirik|Ecole | I have a request for you :D |
| 22:15.46 | cogwheel|work | better not be about one of my mods :P |
| 22:15.50 | Shirik|Ecole | it is :( |
| 22:15.54 | cogwheel|work | j/k :P |
| 22:16.02 | Karrion|Away | Guillotine: http://blog.rickbreslin.com/extras/doink_doink.wav |
| 22:16.04 | Shirik|Ecole | I could modify it I guess, but I figured I'd pass it on to you |
| 22:16.17 | Guillotine | Karrion: you are my hero! you get credits in the addon :D |
| 22:16.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I wanted the option for CCWarn to only send the warnings when I'm in combat |
| 22:16.38 | cogwheel|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.40 | Karrion|Away | my google-fu is strong >.> |
| 22:16.44 | Shirik|Ecole | it does? |
| 22:16.46 | Shirik|Ecole | oooh |
| 22:16.47 | Shirik|Ecole | awesome |
| 22:16.50 | cogwheel|work | let me make sure... |
| 22:17.07 | cogwheel|work | yep |
| 22:17.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Cause I use it with my traps, but when we're setting up pre-fight, and I lay a trap, I send the warning to a bunch of people and they're like "wtf" |
| 22:17.26 | Shirik|Ecole | I really only care if I'm trapping mid-combat |
| 22:17.36 | Shirik|Ecole | which I do a lot :( |
| 22:17.50 | Shirik|Ecole | thanks cogwheel|work :) |
| 22:18.00 | cogwheel|work | rtfm imo |
| 22:18.02 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 22:18.38 | Shirik|Ecole | was there really a manual? |
| 22:18.44 | cogwheel|work | readme.txt |
| 22:18.50 | Shirik|Ecole | oh |
| 22:18.54 | cogwheel|work | which is reproduced on the download pages :P |
| 22:19.06 | Shirik|Ecole | those are just for authors that want to increase their lines count |
| 22:19.07 | Shirik|Ecole | :P |
| 22:19.13 | Shirik|Ecole | nobody reads them |
| 22:19.16 | Shirik|Ecole | they're like EULAs |
| 22:19.41 | Shirik|Ecole | also, for the record, I have one of the original versions ^^ |
| 22:19.48 | cogwheel|work | ah |
| 22:20.31 | cogwheel|work | yeah... macro options were added to the most recent version |
| 22:20.31 | zenzelezz | you have no right to request features if you're not running the latest version |
| 22:20.31 | zenzelezz | =) |
| 22:20.32 | cogwheel|work | hehe |
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| 22:20.42 | cogwheel|work | as obvious as that sounds, it's a good rule of thumb... I know i've been guilty of the same... |
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| 22:21.08 | cogwheel|work | yeah... I can't stand Neuro_Medivh either... |
| 22:21.11 | Shirik|Ghost12 | I... hate... school.... network |
| 22:21.14 | cogwheel|work | <.< |
| 22:21.16 | cogwheel|work | >.> |
| 22:21.21 | Neuro_Medivh | pttthhhh |
| 22:21.34 | cogwheel|work | <3 |
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| 22:24.40 | Shirik|Ecole | lol cogwheel|work is on a roll today |
| 22:25.07 | Shirik|Ecole | "I'm fairly certain this is not the case unless the instructions were written incorrectly. If you can't get it working via WTF modifications, then you'll have to configure each addon yourself..." |
| 22:25.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm sorry, but "I've done everything correctly" and "It doesn't work" are mutually exclusive. I'm afraid at this point there is no further assistance anyone here can provide. Best I can suggest is find someone nearby who plays WoW on a mac and get them to have a look at your 'puter... |
| 22:25.15 | Shirik|Ecole | And what's sad is he's right... |
| 22:26.17 | Neuro_Medivh | so, LotR online launched this week... |
| 22:26.29 | Neuro_Medivh | Anything look familiar? http://lotro-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/details/20665/redeye/ |
| 22:26.45 | cogwheel|work | :) |
| 22:27.02 | cogwheel|work | Neuro_Medivh: http://www.lotrointerface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=25 |
| 22:27.26 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 22:34.10 | TC-Working | well it doesnt look like wow...there arent 100000000 mods cluttering up the screen |
| 22:34.33 | TC-Working | yet |
| 22:35.13 | Shirik|zZz | lol |
| 22:36.10 | cogwheel|work | heh... no yet |
| 22:36.19 | cogwheel|work | there's no way to write mods fol lotro |
| 22:36.28 | cogwheel|work | s/ol/or/ |
| 22:36.41 | Shirik | yeah, just skins iirc |
| 22:37.18 | TC-Working | really?....sad |
| 22:37.58 | cogwheel|work | but their default UI is highly customizable... |
| 22:38.08 | cogwheel|work | movable sizeable windows, lots of action bars, etc. |
| 22:38.30 | TC-Working | still, doesnt sound like a patch on WoW though |
| 22:44.21 | TC-Working | hmm..so what are the odds that i can play wow through vnc? |
| 22:45.01 | cogwheel|work | maybe at 1fps... |
| 22:45.11 | TC-Working | on a desktop that has a far larger resolution |
| 22:45.14 | cogwheel|work | though it would more likely show up as a black square |
| 22:45.42 | TC-Working | well, lets give it a try |
| 22:47.49 | Shirik | Actually |
| 22:47.50 | Shirik | I've done it |
| 22:47.51 | Shirik | it shows up |
| 22:47.57 | Shirik | But like cogwheel|work, it's pretty bad |
| 22:48.02 | Shirik | I got what appeared to be less than 1fps |
| 22:48.05 | cogwheel|work | probably depends on your video card... |
| 22:48.12 | Shirik | (though the game still reports about 50) |
| 22:48.24 | cogwheel|work | and how it renders directx |
| 22:48.29 | Shirik | perhaps |
| 22:48.43 | TC-Working | meh..wow seems to locked up my interface |
| 22:48.51 | TC-Working | s/to/to have/ |
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| 22:55.00 | Shirik | wb cladhaire |
| 22:55.08 | cladhaire | oh ty |
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| 23:16.01 | Kaso | "Japanese film star Maiko Kawamaki went on a talk-show and wondered why her new pet [poodle] would not bark or eat dog food. She was crestfallen when told it was a sheep." |
| 23:16.22 | Shirik | wow |
| 23:16.38 | zenzelezz | I didn't know Paris Hilton had a Japanese twin |
| 23:16.40 | TC-Working | yea, that went around the office email already |
| 23:17.10 | Kaso | They really pulled the wool over their eyes! |
| 23:17.12 | TC-Working | "I'm thinking we could sell camels as horses bred for low H2O consumption and back-rests." |
| 23:17.29 | Kaso | You could almost say they were "fleeced" |
| 23:19.40 | Legorol | so is LotRO any good? |
| 23:19.51 | Legorol | I never tried, what are the opinions? |
| 23:22.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Do you like WoW? |
| 23:22.31 | Neuro_Medivh | Did you wish WoW had hobbits? |
| 23:22.40 | Neuro_Medivh | Then you'll like LotR! |
| 23:23.10 | zenzelezz | who in their right mind would want to play a furry gnome :-| |
| 23:23.20 | TC-Working | me |
| 23:23.32 | zenzelezz | I said in their right mind |
| 23:23.40 | TC-Working | point |
| 23:24.33 | TC-Working | oh... i thought you said "not want" |
| 23:24.33 | TC-Working | nvm then, nothin furry for me |
| 23:24.34 | TC-Working | .... |
| 23:25.04 | Guillotine | furry gnome? zomg, count me in |
| 23:25.09 | Guillotine | its like a mini yeti! |
| 23:25.40 | TC-Working | Guillotine, your disturbing |
| 23:28.03 | ckknight | aren't gnomes hobbits with slightly less hair or something? |
| 23:28.05 | Legorol | There is a new GetEffectiveAlpha method for Frames, does anyone know what it does? |
| 23:28.23 | Neuro_Medivh | the best part of LotR online is that you don't even need to learn a new UI! |
| 23:28.40 | Legorol | hehe i scrolled up and saw the SS |
| 23:28.46 | Legorol | frightening |
| 23:28.57 | Legorol | obviously they are trying to lure customers away |
| 23:29.16 | Legorol | but i trust Blizzard's innovativeness, despite the plenty of "WoW is getting old, going down" etc. threads ;_) |
| 23:29.48 | zenzelezz | I'd think they'd rather focus on the background of the game as a selling point than the UI... even though some Tolkien freaks (like myself) shun the game |
| 23:30.29 | Legorol | an intuitive UI that's proven itself good in a rival's product is a good place to start from |
| 23:30.45 | Thrae | Gnomes are modled after gnomes |
| 23:30.46 | Legorol | it's proven it works well for new players, and it helps lure away old players |
| 23:30.53 | zenzelezz | of course, but if it's too similar... :) But I didn't follow the link |
| 23:31.02 | Thrae | Wait, are we talking about WoW or LOTR:O? |
| 23:31.17 | zenzelezz | like the LotR movies, I stay away from anything regarding the game(s) |
| 23:32.15 | Thrae | Gnomes come from mythology that long predates LOTR |
| 23:32.34 | ckknight | gnomes live in the garden |
| 23:32.40 | Legorol | What? Gnomes are a myth? |
| 23:32.44 | Legorol | Noone told me before! |
| 23:33.02 | Thrae | WoW uses that mythology -- Dwarves and Gnomes, in many mythos, are interchangable. Sometimes Dwarves represent Gnomes from other mythos, and visa-versa. |
| 23:33.06 | TC-Working | ~sigh Legorol |
| 23:33.14 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Legorol!" |
| 23:33.20 | Thrae | Hence why WoW has a connection between the background of Dwarves and Gnomes. |
| 23:33.37 | ckknight | they just needed a 4th race for the alliance |
| 23:33.39 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:33.56 | Legorol | I thought the origins of gnomes and dwarves are different |
| 23:34.04 | Legorol | Aren't dwarves descended from Earthen? |
| 23:34.12 | Legorol | Gnomes are .. umm... i don't remember |
| 23:34.16 | Thrae | ckknight: Gnomes were in WC for a long time ;) |
| 23:34.29 | Guillotine | though you didn't actually see them much. They were always in machines |
| 23:34.36 | Thrae | Yeah |
| 23:35.35 | ckknight | gnomish flying machine and such |
| 23:35.35 | zenzelezz | they were engineers mostly |
| 23:35.35 | ckknight | Legorol: gnomes are cousins of the dwarves |
| 23:35.35 | ckknight | went on a different evolutionary path |
| 23:35.35 | JoshBorke | some got stuck under rocks |
| 23:35.35 | cladhaire | evolution is a myth |
| 23:35.35 | zenzelezz | this is talking about WoW? |
| 23:35.38 | cladhaire | you should youtube about evolution ckknight |
| 23:35.59 | ckknight | cladhaire: that's my next episode, actually |
| 23:36.08 | cladhaire | lolz |
| 23:36.18 | Legorol | the dove evolution video is awesome |
| 23:36.21 | ckknight | you see my earth day one? |
| 23:36.36 | cladhaire | no |
| 23:36.56 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/southernjesse |
| 23:37.22 | Thrae | Gnomes are often referred to as very smart because the word was supposedly descended from "gnosis", or knowledge, but it is also descended from "genomos", or "earth-dweller" |
| 23:38.32 | raevanmorlock | Anyone know of an addon that adds chat filters to the dropdown menu on the chat frame tabs? |
| 23:38.39 | Thrae | In Norse Mythology, Dwarves and Gnomes were different. Gnomes mined for gems and were smart and shrewd, while Dwarves mined for ore and used them to make fabulous weapons. The Gods of Aesir went to the Dwarves to have their magical weapons made. I believe WoW represents more from Norse Mythology. |
| 23:39.16 | Zicon | In norse mythology. -Really-. |
| 23:39.41 | Thrae | Zicon: Well, for Dwarves and Gnomes. |
| 23:39.51 | Zicon | Norse mythology doesn't -have- gnomes. |
| 23:40.12 | Thrae | It has gnomes, they might not be called "gnomes" |
| 23:40.26 | JoshBorke | the PC term is short people? |
| 23:40.42 | Zicon | Norse mythology has dwarves and elves, and the termes are interchangable. No gnomes anywhere. |
| 23:40.46 | zenzelezz | there is no PC for mythology |
| 23:41.27 | Shirik | so my friend works for tech support |
| 23:41.31 | Thrae | Zicon: In Norse mythology, the gnomes were called "Nisse". The dwarves were different then the elves. |
| 23:41.31 | Shirik | she just got this one: |
| 23:41.35 | Shirik | "I can get online just fine and everything's great until I VPN into my office, then everything slows way down. So i just wanted to know if there's a problem with the Internet?" |
| 23:42.18 | Zicon | thrae: Ok, I can live with nisser being called gnomes in english. They didn't mine for gems, though. |
| 23:42.50 | Thrae | Zicon: But Elves and Dwarves were not interchangable in Norse |
| 23:42.50 | raevanmorlock | Yeah.. the internet is broken. |
| 23:42.52 | Davey2 | anyone able to help me fix a couple of bugs? |
| 23:43.02 | Thrae | Zicon: Look it up on Pantheon or Wikipedia |
| 23:43.04 | Davey2 | i'd love to get this addon fixed and start enjoying it fully |
| 23:43.06 | Zicon | thrae: For all intents and purposes, yes, they were. |
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| 23:43.49 | Thrae | Zicon: Dwarves were stout and gruff, Elves were usually said to be beautiful demi-humans |
| 23:43.57 | Zicon | thrae: Hey, I've grown up on norse mythology. |
| 23:44.05 | Thrae | Zicon: So have I :) |
| 23:44.25 | zenzelezz | a lot of people grew up thinking the world was flat |
| 23:44.29 | Davey2 | i need a little assistance in fixing a bug with the battleground queuing system |
| 23:44.31 | zenzelezz | face it, sometimes you're wrong |
| 23:44.40 | Thrae | Norse is my favorite mythos, Greek is next. I studied them both intensively when I was younger. |
| 23:44.59 | Zicon | thrae: Fine, there are a couple of obscure references of ljosalfar being something akin to the modern idea of elves, but most of the time, elves and dwarves are the same thing. |
| 23:45.22 | Thrae | I also know a good bit about Roman and Irish, and of course, Judiac and Christian. |
| 23:45.43 | Davey2 | i am thinking there's a different way of doing the queuing system in my script, because Entering the queue, then joining another queue and leaving the original causes unexpected results |
| 23:47.12 | Thrae | Zicon: That's just from one historian's perspective, he's the one which referred to Dwarves as "dark elves"...lemme get his name |
| 23:47.24 | Legorol | wiki down? |
| 23:47.31 | Davey2 | yes apparently |
| 23:47.36 | Legorol | bleh :/ |
| 23:47.37 | Davey2 | ...again |
| 23:47.52 | Thrae | Zicon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snorri_Sturluson |
| 23:47.52 | Davey2 | so it's not like i am able to reference to fix this bug either |
| 23:47.55 | Legorol | i don't remember the methods for enumerating anchors |
| 23:47.59 | Legorol | anyone knows off-hand? |
| 23:48.08 | raevanmorlock | pairs()? |
| 23:48.43 | Thrae | Legorol: GetBottom() GetTop() GetCenter() |
| 23:49.01 | Legorol | that's not the one i mean, the one that lets you enumerate the anchors defined for an object |
| 23:49.07 | Tem | Thrae, BZZT |
| 23:49.12 | Tem | Legorol, GetPoint(n) |
| 23:49.22 | Legorol | and the one that gives number of points? |
| 23:49.28 | Tem | NumPoints() |
| 23:49.36 | Legorol | NumPoints is nil |
| 23:49.49 | Thrae | Legorol: Did you use SetPoint at all? |
| 23:49.53 | Legorol | bah, i can't code without the wiki, my mind is like a sieve |
| 23:49.58 | Legorol | Thrae: yes it's anchored |
| 23:50.09 | Legorol | what i mean is object.NumPoints is nil |
| 23:50.13 | Legorol | that's not what the method is called |
| 23:51.07 | Thrae | Legorol: Frame methods aren't instantiated until after you call or try to hook them, I think... |
| 23:51.35 | Davey2 | how do i deal with BG Queues? |
| 23:51.41 | zenzelezz | FWIW, wiki loads for me |
| 23:51.46 | Davey2 | like when i have left a queue |
| 23:51.52 | zenzelezz | numPoints = LayoutFrame:GetNumPoints() |
| 23:52.08 | Davey2 | i need to know how to counteract my bug |
| 23:52.33 | Legorol | zenzelezz: thanks, that's the one |
| 23:52.45 | Thrae | Damn inconsistent naming convention :D |
| 23:53.05 | Thrae | tooltip:NumLines() <-- correct, not GetNumLines |
| 23:54.00 | raevanmorlock | That's quite the fickle pickle |
| 23:54.05 | zenzelezz | when you encounter such things, just rememeber - you're not calling UberSuperDuperExExEx(LPCTSTRPCH arf) |
| 23:54.48 | Legorol | Tem: about those tooltips, this is just getting worse |
| 23:55.08 | Legorol | C reanchors those TextLefts which have a texture in front of them to display a gem :/ |
| 23:55.16 | Tem | yep |
| 23:55.23 | Tem | it's diry, dirty, dirty |
| 23:56.23 | Shirik | I'll dirty you! |
| 23:57.30 | raevanmorlock | Is there any reason a hooked function would not get called in place of the original? |
| 23:58.22 | Legorol | yes, lots |
| 23:58.29 | Tem | someone else hooked and did a poor job of it |
| 23:58.31 | Legorol | for example if someone kept a local reference to the original |
| 23:58.35 | Tem | s/hooked/unhooked/ |
| 23:58.41 | Legorol | which they are using instead of calling a global |
| 23:58.50 | Legorol | which isn't too uncommon nowadays, with people optimising everything |
| 23:59.21 | Thrae | raevanmorlock: In that case, you'll need to name your addon something like !HopeEveryoneUsesWindowsXP |
| 23:59.26 | Legorol | example: AddOn A: local orig = OriginalFunction; ... orig() ... |
| 23:59.43 | Legorol | AddOn B: local old = OriginalFunction; function OriginalFunction() ... old() end |
| 23:59.44 | Thrae | raevanmorlock: Or find the bad addon and add a LoadWith to your addon |
| 23:59.56 | Thrae | raevanmorlock: Such that you hook it first |
| 23:59.58 | Legorol | AddOn B's version will not get called when AddOn A calls orig() |
