| 00:17.03 | Thordon2 | . |
| 00:21.32 | pastamancer | ^^ now that's a quit message |
| 00:21.42 | leethal | =) |
| 00:23.40 | leethal | I submitted a bug report on that exact issue 5 minutes ago =P |
| 00:24.03 | leethal | In colloquy, my chat client, command + W will exit the channel without any "are you sure? yes|no" |
| 00:31.01 | Aegus | what is the BLITZ_STRING for power word? |
| 00:32.30 | leethal | blitz_string? |
| 00:33.23 | Aegus | is it Spell_Holy_WordFortitude |
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| 00:33.30 | Thrae | Aegus: <-- then --> then A, regardless of orientation, makes Sabin cast Pummel. |
| 00:34.04 | Aegus | heh. |
| 00:34.18 | Aegus | what is the string to target self onLoad |
| 00:34.19 | Aegus | ? |
| 00:34.59 | leethal | blitz string? target self onLoad? |
| 00:35.03 | leethal | *confused* |
| 00:35.08 | Aegus | hehe |
| 00:35.12 | MentalPower | can't |
| 00:35.18 | Aegus | theres no way to target self ? |
| 00:35.22 | MentalPower | targetting is restricted |
| 00:35.30 | MentalPower | why do you want to |
| 00:35.33 | Aegus | this:SetAttribute("type","spell") |
| 00:35.33 | Aegus | this:SetAttribute("spell","Power Word: Fortitude") |
| 00:35.37 | Aegus | i want that to hit me. |
| 00:35.48 | Aegus | its a button im making. |
| 00:35.55 | MentalPower | have to click |
| 00:36.02 | Aegus | hmm |
| 00:36.09 | Karrion | Aegus: this:SetAttribute("unit", "player"); |
| 00:36.20 | MentalPower | still have to click |
| 00:36.34 | Karrion | yes, the button has to be clicked to cast it |
| 00:36.36 | Aegus | yeah |
| 00:36.40 | Aegus | u click the button |
| 00:36.49 | Aegus | im not making an auto buff... =) |
| 00:37.15 | Karrion | when you said "OnLoad" it sounded like you were talking about having the spell cast on load |
| 00:37.19 | Aegus | your awesome karrion |
| 00:37.24 | Thrae | Aegus: Try SmartBuff |
| 00:37.33 | Aegus | nah.. im making my own thrae.. |
| 00:37.34 | Karrion | I think you meant for setting the values during onload |
| 00:37.49 | Aegus | yeah |
| 00:37.52 | Aegus | its working now |
| 00:37.54 | Aegus | =) |
| 00:38.03 | Aegus | hmm |
| 00:38.22 | Aegus | the value on a button.. how do i use my own image |
| 00:38.47 | leethal | is it a Button frame? |
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| 00:39.30 | Aegus | mmmyeah |
| 00:41.19 | leethal | yourbutton:SetBackdrop() perhaps |
| 00:41.33 | leethal | not sure though |
| 00:41.34 | leethal | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop |
| 00:41.44 | leethal | never done that myself, so just guessing |
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| 00:53.25 | Esamynn | anyone have a suggestion for an AddOn that allows searching of enchants via whispers? |
| 00:53.35 | pastamancer | EnchantList? |
| 00:54.34 | Esamynn | thanks |
| 00:55.06 | Shirik | leethal: That's correct |
| 00:55.27 | Shirik | alternatively http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexture |
| 00:55.39 | Shirik | but SetBackdrop is far easier |
| 00:59.56 | leethal | and I guess you do the same on OnClick etc to get nice button-ish looks? |
| 01:06.54 | leethal | ckknight: ping |
| 01:08.08 | ckknight | leethal: pong |
| 01:08.21 | leethal | you wrote pitbull, right? |
| 01:09.38 | leethal | ckknight: ping =P |
| 01:09.43 | ckknight | yes. |
| 01:09.46 | ckknight | I already said that |
| 01:10.07 | leethal | yeah, I remember, wasn't entirely sure that it was you, though |
| 01:10.11 | leethal | as in, didn't remember the nick |
| 01:10.41 | leethal | anyway. started mouting, cast bar appeared, opened map, closed map, "mount spell" still casting, castbar gone |
| 01:11.49 | leethal | just tried opening/closing map when casting hearthstone, same thing |
| 01:13.36 | leethal | using r33076 |
| 01:15.53 | leethal | using the default ABF layout too, in case that matters |
| 01:17.03 | pastamancer | is anyone else having trouble connecting to the US login server? |
| 01:17.32 | Nom- | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070423 <-- epic! |
| 01:18.15 | ckknight | leethal: alright |
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| 01:22.42 | Aegus | can anyone tell me how to create a flashing background? |
| 01:25.29 | Nom- | Epileptic much? |
| 01:29.23 | Karrion | Aegus: I think you have to use the OnUpdate, and change the background every however-many seconds |
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| 01:36.29 | Shadowed | Oh hey they did really fix guilds not showing up on characters |
| 01:36.57 | Aegus | ew.. |
| 01:37.10 | Aegus | how do i make my button a circle |
| 01:37.48 | AnduinLothar | find something that has a circle button and look at hoe they did it |
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| 01:38.12 | Terrifion | this is probably a stupid question, but i'm a bit confused by the difference between a.x and a[x]; could someone explain it to me? |
| 01:38.25 | AnduinLothar | a.x assumes x is a string |
| 01:38.31 | Terrifion | and a[x] is a variable |
| 01:38.34 | AnduinLothar | a[x] assumes x is a variable |
| 01:38.41 | Terrifion | alright, thanks |
| 01:38.49 | AnduinLothar | a.x == a["x"] |
| 01:38.57 | AnduinLothar | syntactic sugar |
| 01:39.00 | Terrifion | ohhh, okay thats where I was confused |
| 01:39.03 | Terrifion | thank you! :D |
| 01:40.09 | leethal | so, if a == "foo", mytable.foo and mytable[a] is the same thing |
| 01:40.11 | leethal | right? |
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| 01:40.38 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 01:41.25 | AnduinLothar | it's easier to read the . syntax for things like pre established sub tables |
| 01:42.19 | AnduinLothar | like MyAddon.database[playerName].var1 |
| 01:42.38 | leethal | mm |
| 01:43.08 | AnduinLothar | where playerName = UnitName("player") and all player databases have a var1 |
| 01:43.16 | AnduinLothar | but w/e |
| 01:44.20 | AnduinLothar | same as MyAddon["database"][UnitName("player")]["var1"] |
| 01:44.20 | Terrifion | hmm |
| 01:44.20 | Terrifion | I agree |
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| 01:44.26 | Terrifion | somewhat |
| 01:44.27 | Terrifion | at least |
| 01:44.31 | Terrifion | I guess everyone is different |
| 01:45.53 | Terrifion | what are linked lists? |
| 01:46.10 | AnduinLothar | a data structure |
| 01:46.29 | AnduinLothar | which i've never needed in lua |
| 01:46.41 | Terrifion | alright |
| 01:46.44 | Terrifion | hmm |
| 01:47.13 | AnduinLothar | you can accomplish the same thing with sub tables in lua |
| 01:47.48 | AnduinLothar | a linked list is a way to make a list of data objects in a language liek C or Java |
| 01:48.15 | AnduinLothar | but in lua and python you can just make a table or ordered list and insert wherever you want |
| 01:48.54 | AnduinLothar | you MAY be able to use linked list to perform something faster... but lua's insert is pretty fast anyway. |
| 01:49.03 | Terrifion | ah |
| 01:49.10 | Terrifion | I prefer tables anyway |
| 01:49.21 | Terrifion | I'll probably still take a look, but I doubt I'll use it |
| 01:49.46 | AnduinLothar | it'd only rly matter if you had a huge ordered database and you wanted to insert at the beginning, then table.insert would have to renumber all the indexes after yours |
| 01:51.02 | AnduinLothar | and even then you can always insert at the end and just use list[#list] to refrence the last object in the list |
| 01:51.56 | Terrifion | is it best to use local variables when writing addons? |
| 01:52.02 | AnduinLothar | so i guess a linked list might be useful if you wanted a queue where you insert at one end and pull from the other |
| 01:52.06 | AnduinLothar | um |
| 01:52.11 | AnduinLothar | depends |
| 01:52.27 | AnduinLothar | i like to have a global table and then have all my functions inside that global table |
| 01:52.41 | Terrifion | what indices do you use |
| 01:53.03 | AnduinLothar | table indeces can be strings, so the name of the function is the index |
| 01:53.19 | Terrifion | ahh I see |
| 01:53.20 | Terrifion | okay |
| 01:53.23 | pastamancer | I wish lua had linked lists as a native datat structure :( |
| 01:53.25 | AnduinLothar | function MyAddon.funcName(...) doStuff end |
| 01:53.41 | AnduinLothar | provided MyAddon is defined as a table |
| 01:53.45 | Terrifion | how would I transfer a local value to a new function |
| 01:53.49 | Terrifion | in lua? |
| 01:54.05 | AnduinLothar | functions can take infinite parameters |
| 01:54.24 | Terrifion | oooo |
| 01:54.25 | AnduinLothar | function MyAddon.funcName(...) local var = 1; fun2(var) end |
| 01:55.31 | AnduinLothar | function func1(var1, var2) local var3 = 1; func2(var1, var2, var3) end |
| 01:59.46 | Aegus | dangit.. which blp is used for the red buttons? |
| 02:00.41 | Terrifion | I understand the numeric for, but how exactly does the generic one work |
| 02:00.51 | Terrifion | the documentation seems a bit confusing :( |
| 02:02.25 | AnduinLothar | it's flexible, that's why |
| 02:02.53 | AnduinLothar | for i=1, 100 do DoStuff(i) end |
| 02:03.00 | AnduinLothar | loops 1-100 |
| 02:03.15 | AnduinLothar | the two numbers can be variables of course |
| 02:03.21 | Terrifion | can you specifiy the increment |
| 02:03.24 | Terrifion | specify* |
| 02:03.40 | AnduinLothar | for i=100, 1, -1 do DoStuff(i) end |
| 02:03.45 | AnduinLothar | default is 1 |
| 02:04.11 | Terrifion | ahhh, I see, thank you |
| 02:04.19 | AnduinLothar | you can also loop tables |
| 02:04.54 | AnduinLothar | numerically indexed: for index,value in ipairs(myTable) do |
| 02:05.16 | AnduinLothar | unordered key indexed: for index,value in pairs(myTable) do |
| 02:05.31 | ckknight | http://fukung.net/images/711/rotsnake.gif |
| 02:06.12 | AnduinLothar | lol it totally looks movving too |
| 02:06.46 | ckknight | cool, huh? |
| 02:06.52 | Terrifion | aye |
| 02:08.01 | Karrion | ckknight: freaky |
| 02:08.57 | Gnarfoz_ | fix your eyes to one pixel |
| 02:09.03 | Gnarfoz_ | and it will stop moving :> |
| 02:09.14 | Gnarfoz_ | damn uncontrollable eyeball movements :> |
| 02:12.00 | AnduinLothar | it stops moving int hat 1 spot, but the rest in your periferal keeps moving |
| 02:13.53 | Karrion | if you defocus your eyes (like those 3d things) you can get most of it to stop moving |
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| 02:18.16 | Terrifion | does lua support recursion |
| 02:19.26 | pastamancer | ... |
| 02:19.27 | pastamancer | yes |
| 02:19.28 | Karrion | Terrifion: yes |
| 02:19.46 | Karrion | I'm not sure whether it's possible to have a language that doesn't |
| 02:20.02 | pastamancer | if scheme can do it, lua most likely can do it too |
| 02:20.24 | pastamancer | well, sh can be recursive but not re-entrant due to the lack of a local scope |
| 02:22.40 | Karrion | yeah I guess if you had no local scope, including no parameter passing, you could recurse but never terminate it until you ran out of stack space |
| 02:23.04 | Karrion | so you probably can't _usefully_ recurse in BASIC |
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| 02:27.10 | Terrifion | I'm gonna start living in this channel |
| 02:29.01 | JoshBorke | please don't drool while you're sleeping |
| 02:29.08 | JoshBorke | it creates an awful mess |
| 02:29.29 | Terrifion | will do |
| 02:29.33 | Terrifion | or rather |
| 02:29.35 | Terrifion | will not do |
| 02:31.30 | Terrifion | where could I pick up some info on how to create a GUI with just lua |
| 02:32.47 | JoshBorke | wowwiki.com |
| 02:32.52 | JoshBorke | it's all about the CreateFrame |
| 02:33.00 | Terrifion | I see, thanks :) |
| 02:34.37 | Thunder_Child | Terrifion, if your living in the channel, think you can go get me a beer? |
| 02:34.57 | Thunder_Child | Tem|work as well |
| 02:35.37 | Terrifion | uhh |
| 02:35.48 | Terrifion | I'm only 17 :( |
| 02:36.23 | Terrifion | humph |
| 02:36.32 | Terrifion | powermpq can't load common; apparently it's way to hueg |
| 02:37.01 | Kirkburn|afk | zenzelezz, pong |
| 02:37.08 | Terrifion | err |
| 02:37.14 | Terrifion | patch.mpq not common |
| 02:37.18 | Kirkburn|afk | (ooh, I just saw cogwheel's link - a second Freakanomics book! Yay!) |
| 02:37.41 | Terrifion | what mpq viewers do you guys suggest? |
| 02:38.44 | kahdgarxi | winmpq is the only one i know of, seems to work well enough |
| 02:41.43 | Cairenn | there are a few of them, check the dev tools download section at wowi |
| 02:42.03 | Terrifion | thanks, I just dl'ed winmpq and it seems to be working fine |
| 02:42.41 | Aegus | how do i do this.. IsCasting.GetTimeLeft() |
| 02:43.37 | Aegus | i want it to kind do this: if player is casting wait til he is done then continue script... |
| 02:44.23 | Karrion | Aegus: can't do that, directly |
| 02:44.25 | pastamancer | GetCastingInfo/GetChannelingInfo IIRC |
| 02:44.45 | pastamancer | that'll give you the time left |
| 02:45.05 | Karrion | have to have some sort of action queue of pending things to do, then wait for an onupdate and check whether the player is casting |
| 02:45.24 | pastamancer | or if you just care about when the spell finishes UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 02:45.50 | Aegus | yeah |
| 02:46.10 | Aegus | i have a button that comes up.. and if they click it.. i dont want them to have to wait if they are already clicking |
| 02:46.16 | Aegus | i want the spell to go into a queue |
| 02:46.22 | Terrifion | when an xml file refers to a file for a frame in the \Interface\ folder, where would that be? |
| 02:46.23 | Karrion | can't do that |
| 02:46.57 | Aegus | how about if player.iscasting { dofunctionagain() } ? |
| 02:47.13 | pastamancer | what are you *really* trying to do? |
| 02:47.49 | Aegus | basically pause what the button does.. until the players character is not casting |
| 02:48.10 | Karrion | you can wait for the cast to complete either by catching the spell end events or doing onupdate, but you then can't do any protected functions in the delayed code |
| 02:48.19 | Eternally777 | So that you can press the button several times in quick succession and then have the next spell in the queue cast? |
| 02:48.22 | pastamancer | that's not reall doable because of the requirement on a hardware event |
| 02:48.28 | pastamancer | s/reall/really/ |
| 02:49.26 | Aegus | no nono |
| 02:49.30 | Aegus | just that one.. |
| 02:49.44 | Aegus | lets say im casting resurection... |
| 02:49.56 | Aegus | and i click my button that i made. |
| 02:50.12 | Aegus | i want my button to wait for player to be done casting before proceeding. |
| 02:50.22 | pastamancer | and what does that button do? |
| 02:50.23 | Karrion | Aegus: can't be done |
| 02:50.33 | Aegus | the button casts innerfire. |
| 02:50.38 | pastamancer | nope, can't do it |
| 02:50.43 | Aegus | odd. |
| 02:50.43 | pastamancer | you can't delay spell casts |
| 02:50.53 | Aegus | is there a goto in functions? |
| 02:50.55 | zenzelezz | not odd; design decision |
| 02:51.07 | zenzelezz | allowing waiting would enable automation |
| 02:51.33 | Aegus | if (IsCasting.GetTimeLeft() > 2000) then doSomething(); end |
| 02:51.55 | pastamancer | so you'd have them mash the button until the spell is finished casting? |
| 02:52.19 | Aegus | hmm.. |
| 02:52.21 | pastamancer | I don't think you can do that either |
| 02:52.29 | pastamancer | certainly not in combat |
| 02:52.32 | Aegus | what about using return |
| 02:52.40 | pastamancer | what about it? |
| 02:52.44 | Aegus | if (IsCasting.GetTimeLeft() > 1) then return; |
| 02:52.49 | Aegus | isnt that a loop? |
| 02:52.51 | Karrion | Aegus: I'm afraid the player has to be smart enough to not try to cast a spell while they're already casting one |
| 02:52.52 | pastamancer | that's not where the problem is |
| 02:52.53 | zenzelezz | logic = no-no |
| 02:53.17 | pastamancer | the problem is in the doSomething which you seem to be indicating would call CastSpell and CastSpell is restricted |
| 02:54.12 | Aegus | do they have do until ? |
| 02:54.45 | zenzelezz | don't think players would like their game freezing while they waited for a cast to finish |
| 02:54.59 | pastamancer | Aegus: I don't think you're listening |
| 02:55.15 | zenzelezz | the point is Aegus, 2.0 introduced a whole range of limitations to stop these sort of addons |
| 02:55.24 | Aegus | o |
| 02:55.29 | Aegus | ok |
| 02:56.14 | pastamancer | SecureActionButtons are the only things that cast spells, and there's no way to add logic to that during combat |
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| 02:59.22 | Neuro_Medivh | hey guys... need some info... my guildies are complaining that the default Pet Bar is 'bugged'... does anyone know if there is still an issue with the default UI not showing the pet bar when you gain a pet in combat? |
| 03:00.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Neuro: yeah. |
| 03:00.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Search WoWI for "petbarfix" |
| 03:00.25 | ZealotOnAStick | or tell them to use a bar mod that avoids it. Bongos or BT3 both work well. |
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| 03:01.38 | Terrifion | I forgot how you enable changing file types through renaming |
| 03:01.41 | Terrifion | is that in the control panel |
| 03:02.27 | batrick | xp? |
| 03:02.35 | Terrifion | aye |
| 03:02.54 | raevanmorlock | Set explorer's options to display file extensions and then change the extension when you rename it |
| 03:03.27 | Terrifion | ahh thanks! |
| 03:03.52 | Terrifion | is this 20003? |
| 03:04.20 | raevanmorlock | I believe the current year is 2007 |
| 03:04.34 | Terrifion | : ( |
| 03:04.40 | Terrifion | lolz |
| 03:05.22 | raevanmorlock | current TOC is 20003, yes |
| 03:05.33 | Terrifion | thanks |
| 03:06.31 | Tem|work | I'll pass on the bear for now |
| 03:06.40 | Tem|work | but you can get me a crown and seven, if you like |
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| 03:08.05 | raevanmorlock | bear? crown and seven? ... sometimes I feel like the people in this chat are talking to ghosts or something |
| 03:08.53 | Tem | raevanmorlock, scroll up a couple of hours to TC-Working telling someone to get him and I a bear |
| 03:09.08 | Tem | or just 30 minutes |
| 03:09.44 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 03:10.20 | raevanmorlock | Ok, but he offered you a beer.. not a bear |
| 03:11.19 | pastamancer | I'll get TC-Working a bear! |
| 03:11.33 | pastamancer | UPS will let you ship live animals, right? |
| 03:12.09 | raevanmorlock | Uh... yeah, definitely! |
| 03:12.19 | pastamancer | not that you'd know, right? |
| 03:12.20 | raevanmorlock | Just make sure you write which side is up on the box |
| 03:13.33 | Tem | fucking hell |
| 03:13.42 | Tem | I can't spell for shit |
| 03:13.50 | raevanmorlock | yeah :) |
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| 03:15.02 | meisifsdaj | how do i find the exe installer/// and or install auctioneer complete? |
| 03:15.36 | pastamancer | I'm going to guess #norganna, but you might find someone to help you here |
| 03:15.48 | meisifsdaj | thank you |
| 03:16.50 | pastamancer | anyone in cambridge, ma need a roommate? I'm looking for a place. |
| 03:16.56 | Terrifion | how would I display text in the chat frame |
| 03:17.31 | pastamancer | ChatFrame1:AddMessage |
| 03:17.36 | Terrifion | ty |
| 03:17.58 | pastamancer | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_MessageFrame_AddMessage to be precise |
| 03:20.54 | kahdgarxi | btw, the defualt chat frame is called DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 03:21.42 | raevanmorlock | no way! |
| 03:22.29 | pastamancer | Is there ever a case where DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME ~= ChatFrame1? |
| 03:24.16 | Terrifion | what is the bare minimum an XML file has to have for an addon to run |
| 03:24.33 | raevanmorlock | The Ui tag |
| 03:24.36 | raevanmorlock | but you don't need an xml file |
| 03:24.54 | Terrifion | I dont even have to include one? |
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| 03:25.11 | Terrifion | hmm |
| 03:25.11 | raevanmorlock | Just list the .lua file inside the TOC instead |
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| 03:25.18 | Terrifion | okay, thanks |
| 03:25.19 | pastamancer | xml is overrated |
| 03:25.23 | Terrifion | aye |
| 03:25.25 | Terrifion | I don't really want to use xml |
| 03:25.29 | Iriel | XML is underappreciated |
| 03:25.37 | pastamancer | xml wishes it was sexp |
| 03:25.38 | Terrifion | it's just confusing to me |
| 03:26.22 | Cairenn | pastamancer: I guess that's a matter of opinion. I happen to love XML. |
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| 03:27.09 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 03:27.12 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 03:27.19 | pastamancer | Cairenn: I suppose. It seem nedlessly verbose compared to s-expressions |
| 03:27.19 | kahdgarxi | wouldn't that be a <hug />? |
| 03:27.23 | raevanmorlock | don't forget to close it or it won't work! |
| 03:27.31 | Iriel | kahdgarxi: I guess it depends how long the hug lasts for |
| 03:27.38 | kahdgarxi | heheh |
| 03:27.47 | Tain | XML kicks puppies. |
| 03:27.53 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 03:28.03 | Iriel | I suspect it'd be <hug>Cairenn</hug> or <hug target="Cairenn"/> |
| 03:28.26 | raevanmorlock | target sounds good |
| 03:28.31 | pastamancer | should the hug spec support group hugs? |
| 03:28.32 | Tain | What if you left the close tag out on purpose so that the hug never ended? |
| 03:28.51 | pastamancer | if so it sould be <hug><hugees><hugee>Cairenn</hugee></hugees></hug> |
| 03:28.52 | Iriel | Tain then you'd be using up valuable stack space |
| 03:28.53 | raevanmorlock | That's just bad syntax |
| 03:29.16 | Tain | Sometiems using up stack space is a good thing. |
| 03:29.55 | Tain | "Hey baby, want to use up some of my stack space?" |
| 03:30.13 | raevanmorlock | Tain, when's the last time you got some rest? |
| 03:30.26 | Tain | Actually I got a good 9 hours sleep last night. |
| 03:30.35 | Tain | First time in a while. |
| 03:30.57 | raevanmorlock | Hrmm... maybe it's me then. |
| 03:31.13 | Tain | I also just got finished watching the new Heroes. |
| 03:31.17 | Iriel | I know I sure as hell need a bunch of sleep |
| 03:31.22 | Iriel | THough it's not cooperating |
| 03:33.14 | raevanmorlock | My friend has been keepin me up all sorts of hours so my sleep is totally fubar'd |
| 03:33.41 | Terrifion | damn it, I'm terrible at this |
| 03:34.01 | raevanmorlock | She was supposed to take a short nap til 6 so she could hopefully get to bed some time tonight.. but it's 8:30 now and I keep calling and she's not waking up |
| 03:35.16 | Terrifion | all I want is this to display a message in the chat frame when I take dur and I can't even get that to work |
| 03:36.02 | pastamancer | Terrifion: try /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Test") and go from there |
| 03:36.40 | Terrifion | aye |
| 03:37.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Squeak, squeak! http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/04/baroo_head_tilt.html |
| 03:37.22 | raevanmorlock | What exactly isn't working? Is it throwing an error? Is it not loading? Do some parts work and others don't? |
| 03:37.24 | kahdgarxi | anyone know of an addon to keep track of vampiric touch/vampiric embrace that works? |
| 03:37.34 | Terrifion | it's giving me 60 errors |
| 03:37.43 | Terrifion | telling me about a bunch of blocked actions from bongos |
| 03:37.50 | raevanmorlock | Wow |
| 03:37.50 | Terrifion | I know, I somehow managed to screw this up big time |
| 03:37.56 | Terrifion | I feel stupid :( |
| 03:38.01 | Terrifion | oh come on you didn't have to add to that wait QQ |
| 03:38.19 | Terrifion | weight* |
| 03:38.23 | Terrifion | I should stop talking |
| 03:38.55 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 03:40.23 | Terrifion | got rid of the errors ,now I need to find a place to jump off to kill myself |
| 03:40.58 | raevanmorlock | I hear Mt. Rushmore has a nice view and good verticals |
| 03:42.28 | Terrifion | well |
| 03:42.38 | Terrifion | instead of falling, I have about 5 greater rock elementals from the badlands trying to burn down my 8000 HP |
| 03:42.40 | Terrifion | lets see how long this takes |
| 03:44.18 | Terrifion | ~1.5g repair bill for something that didn't work |
| 03:44.38 | Terrifion | if only I had room in my bags for my gear |
| 03:45.05 | raevanmorlock | Make some room |
| 03:45.19 | *** join/#wowi-lounge tjs (n=pomke@202.61.135.162) |
| 03:45.24 | tjs | hey |
| 03:45.53 | tjs | was trying to make a really simple macro last night for a hunter I started, and just couldnt get it working |
| 03:46.15 | tjs | was just: /petattack; /cast [target=focus] Hunter's Mark |
| 03:46.28 | tjs | both of these work individually |
| 03:46.59 | tjs | if I did it without the semi between (just whitespace) it would just say 'nothing to attack' |
| 03:47.19 | tjs | petattack is instant and has no global cooldown |
| 03:47.29 | tjs | HM does though so thats why I have it last |
| 03:50.27 | Iriel | tjs: But you had a unit targetted ? |
| 03:50.53 | tjs | yeh |
| 03:51.34 | tjs | I want to map this whole thing to button5 |
| 03:51.45 | tjs | as its how I start just about every fight |
| 03:52.01 | tjs | seemed like a fairly simple macro when I started ;) |
| 03:52.11 | Iriel | Why do you have focus and target in there? |
| 03:52.16 | Iriel | Do you start every fights with 2 units selected? |
| 03:52.26 | tjs | no |
| 03:52.38 | tjs | perhaps the target thing is wrong? |
| 03:52.58 | Iriel | Well, have you tried just /petattack<newline>/cast Hunter's Mark |
| 03:53.14 | tjs | no.. |
| 03:53.36 | tjs | however I do want the [target=focus] (if focus means 'hovered over') |
| 03:53.41 | tjs | for both of those |
| 03:53.56 | Iriel | It doesn't |
| 03:53.59 | kahdgarxi | focus doesn't mean 'hovered over' |
| 03:53.59 | Iriel | that's mouseover |
| 03:54.00 | tjs | so I can hover over a target and just click mouse button 5 |
| 03:54.04 | tjs | oh |
| 03:54.48 | tjs | so it should be: /petattack [target=mouseover] <newline> /cast [target=mouseover] Hunter's Mark |
| 03:54.51 | tjs | ? |
| 03:55.26 | Iriel | Probably 8-) |
| 03:55.58 | tjs | :) |
| 03:56.18 | tjs | is there any way to actaully focus the moused over target in a macro? |
| 03:56.49 | kahdgarxi | hmm |
| 03:56.52 | tjs | like /focus [target=mouseover] or something? ah nm I'll go look it up |
| 03:57.10 | kahdgarxi | that would probably work |
| 03:57.33 | kahdgarxi | yup |
| 03:57.35 | kahdgarxi | it works |
| 03:57.39 | tjs | cheers |
| 03:57.50 | raevanmorlock | What _does_ focus refer to? |
| 03:57.51 | Terrifion | what needs to be in front of :RegisterEvent |
| 03:58.03 | kahdgarxi | focus is like a secondary target |
| 03:58.04 | Terrifion | focus is basically a saved target, at least that's what I think it is |
| 03:58.12 | Terrifion | you can set the focus and then call on it later |
| 03:58.18 | raevanmorlock | ah |
| 03:58.21 | kahdgarxi | just think of it as nother target |
| 03:58.25 | raevanmorlock | that's neat |
| 03:58.26 | kahdgarxi | another* |
| 03:58.31 | kahdgarxi | yes it is |
| 03:59.02 | raevanmorlock | I believe :RegisterEvent is a member of a Frame object |
| 03:59.10 | TecnoBrat | yea ... it is a saved target |
| 03:59.27 | raevanmorlock | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_RegisterEvent |
| 03:59.29 | TecnoBrat | with most unit frames you can see a focus frame too |
| 04:00.23 | Terrifion | so where the event occurs? |
| 04:02.40 | raevanmorlock | Yup |
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| 04:03.07 | Terrifion | is there anywhere that has a list of those? |
| 04:03.25 | raevanmorlock | the wiki |
| 04:04.20 | raevanmorlock | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28Full_List%29 |
| 04:04.51 | Terrifion | thanks |
| 04:06.27 | Terrifion | I'm a little confused, my event is off CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_MISC_INFO |
| 04:06.31 | Terrifion | which I have |
| 04:06.43 | Terrifion | registered |
| 04:06.49 | Terrifion | but I don't know what to put in front of the :RegisterEvent |
| 04:07.04 | raevanmorlock | the name of the frame to register it on |
| 04:07.13 | raevanmorlock | if you don't have a frame, you can make one in lua |
| 04:07.21 | Terrifion | ohhhh |
| 04:07.22 | Terrifion | okay, I see |
| 04:07.23 | Terrifion | thank you |
| 04:10.22 | Terrifion | when you register an event on a frame, what exactly happens? |
| 04:11.19 | kahdgarxi | the ui then runs the function you specify when the event fires |
| 04:12.09 | raevanmorlock | Not exactly... it calls the OnEvent() method and passes in which event fired |
| 04:12.30 | Terrifion | why do you have to specify a specific frame |
| 04:12.31 | raevanmorlock | You can read up on it here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
| 04:12.35 | Terrifion | is that where the event originates from? |
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| 04:13.06 | raevanmorlock | It's just how Blizzard chose to design it |
| 04:13.26 | raevanmorlock | Hey Shirik |
| 04:13.42 | Karrion | so that multiple frames can all catch the event (to do different things) without messing each other up |
| 04:13.57 | Terrifion | does it really matter what frame you specify |
| 04:14.03 | Terrifion | or what frame should you choose for certain tasks |
| 04:14.04 | raevanmorlock | nope |
| 04:14.09 | Shirik | well |
| 04:14.14 | Karrion | not really, as long as your addon created it |
| 04:14.19 | Shirik | from a design point of view, yes |
| 04:14.22 | Iriel | It DOES matter, but it's not THAT important, when you're starting out. |
| 04:14.29 | Iriel | As long as, as noted, it's YOUR frame |
| 04:14.35 | Terrifion | oh |
| 04:14.37 | Terrifion | so that's why this isn't working |
| 04:14.40 | Terrifion | I feel stupid again |
| 04:14.41 | Terrifion | :( |
| 04:14.45 | Karrion | don't go messing with other people's frames ;-) |
| 04:14.47 | Terrifion | thanks for the help :D |
| 04:14.53 | raevanmorlock | Right.. you should create a frame with the CreateFrame() function |
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| 04:15.46 | Cairenn | Terrifion: don't feel stupid, you are just learning - just keep reading stuff they point you to so you can ask smart questions |
| 04:15.52 | Terrifion | now I know this is a bit more advanced since I'm just starting out, but where exactly does a UI Get the files needed to create a GUI window |
| 04:15.54 | Shirik | night Cairenn |
| 04:15.57 | Terrifion | good night |
| 04:15.58 | raevanmorlock | Night Cairenn |
| 04:16.10 | Shirik | Terrifion: mm, restate your question |
| 04:16.13 | Shirik | custom files? |
| 04:16.30 | Shirik | most addons use what already exists |
| 04:16.32 | Terrifion | say a frame in XML |
| 04:16.36 | Terrifion | for the BG |
| 04:16.40 | raevanmorlock | Blizzards UI stuff is all in the .mpq files |
| 04:16.53 | raevanmorlock | They have a tool you can use to extract it and see how they do stuff |
| 04:16.59 | pastamancer | Terrifion: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 04:17.00 | Terrifion | yeah I just dled that |
| 04:17.07 | Shirik | or wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 04:17.09 | Terrifion | pastamancer: thanks |
| 04:17.39 | Terrifion | does the frame have to be created at the beginning of the file |
| 04:17.47 | Shirik | the frame has to be created before you need it |
| 04:17.47 | Terrifion | or before where you are using it |
| 04:17.48 | raevanmorlock | just before you use it |
| 04:17.48 | Shirik | no sooner |
| 04:17.50 | raevanmorlock | lua is top-down |
| 04:17.51 | Terrifion | okay |
| 04:17.54 | Terrifion | makes sense |
| 04:18.02 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: I'd be careful about saying that |
| 04:18.32 | raevanmorlock | which part? |
| 04:18.34 | Shirik | from some perspectives, wow addons are entirely message based |
| 04:19.11 | Shirik | but yes, quite literally, lua is top-down |
| 04:19.24 | Terrifion | so I've got the tags and everything, then I come to the parent frame and some stuff about inheriting...what exactly do I have to specify here? |
| 04:19.54 | raevanmorlock | come again? |
| 04:19.57 | Terrifion | as in |
| 04:20.01 | Terrifion | as an argument |
| 04:20.18 | Terrifion | the parent frame argument for CreateFrame |
| 04:20.24 | Terrifion | Frame - The frame object that will be used as the created Frame's parent (cannot be a string!) |
| 04:20.26 | raevanmorlock | oh.. you can use UIParent |
| 04:20.30 | Terrifion | I see, thanks |
| 04:21.02 | raevanmorlock | Since your frame isn't going to be visible or anything, UIParent should be a fine choice |
| 04:21.29 | Terrifion | how about the inheritsFrame |
| 04:21.32 | Terrifion | same thing? |
| 04:21.41 | Shirik | mmmmm |
| 04:21.45 | Shirik | not always necessary |
| 04:21.45 | raevanmorlock | use nil.. I think |
| 04:21.48 | Shirik | I think at your point you don't need it |
| 04:21.55 | Shirik | (without knowing what you're trying to do) |
| 04:21.58 | Terrifion | aye |
| 04:22.07 | Terrifion | to make it nil do I not specify it |
| 04:22.07 | raevanmorlock | He just needs the frame to register events on.. there's no display |
| 04:22.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:22.17 | Terrifion | just "" ? |
| 04:22.17 | raevanmorlock | either leave it out or literally enter nil |
| 04:22.22 | Terrifion | alright |
| 04:22.23 | Terrifion | thanks |
| 04:22.23 | Shirik | then don't inherit, don't set a texture, and don't set a point |
| 04:22.48 | Terrifion | so I have DuraFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", "DuraFrame", UIParent[, ""]); i'm sure theres somethin wrong in here |
| 04:22.55 | Shirik | that's illegal |
| 04:22.58 | Terrifion | :( |
| 04:23.03 | Terrifion | I'm a criminal! |
| 04:23.16 | Shirik | DuraFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) |
| 04:23.16 | Terrifion | ahh |
| 04:23.29 | pastamancer | the [] indicate optional arguments |
| 04:23.31 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 04:23.34 | Terrifion | oh |
| 04:23.34 | Terrifion | yeah |
| 04:23.42 | Terrifion | why did I cp anyway |
| 04:23.47 | Terrifion | I usually write stuff out to get in the hang of it |
| 04:23.51 | raevanmorlock | Shirik: Think he should use local too? |
| 04:23.53 | Terrifion | at least when learning new stuff |
| 04:24.00 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: I'm not going to go that far yet :P |
| 04:24.03 | Shirik | oooh |
| 04:24.05 | Shirik | DuraFrame ? |
| 04:24.10 | Shirik | is that what you want to call it? |
| 04:24.12 | Terrifion | aye |
| 04:24.20 | pastamancer | I think you should call it "george" |
| 04:24.24 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 04:24.28 | Shirik | um |
| 04:24.32 | kergoth | lol |
| 04:24.33 | Terrifion | lol |
| 04:24.38 | raevanmorlock | Don't get him started off on the wrong foot already, pastamancer |
| 04:24.38 | Shirik | chances are someone else has already used that name, so yeah, make that a local variable |
| 04:24.42 | Terrifion | my first frame, his name is george |
| 04:24.45 | pastamancer | hehe |
| 04:24.47 | Terrifion | alright |
| 04:24.51 | Shirik | local DuraFrame = ... |
| 04:24.53 | Terrifion | so local DuraFrame = Creat... |
| 04:24.54 | raevanmorlock | local DuraFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) |
| 04:25.05 | kergoth | i'm -so- naming a frame george in my next addon |
| 04:25.13 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:25.25 | Shirik | I refuse to help you debug it then :P |
| 04:25.28 | raevanmorlock | kergoth: You should make a frame named UIParent |
| 04:25.33 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:25.49 | Shirik | just make a local array Frame |
| 04:25.53 | Shirik | then put everything in there |
| 04:25.55 | Shirik | Frame[1] Frame[2] etc |
| 04:26.12 | Shirik | Then you can do Frame.SetPoint(Frame[1], "CENTER", 0, 0) |
| 04:26.17 | Shirik | and really confuse people |
| 04:26.24 | Terrifion | is there a console of some sorts I can use |
| 04:26.29 | Shirik | oh wait, no, _G["Frame"].SetPoint(Frame[1], "CENTER", 0, 0) |
| 04:26.43 | raevanmorlock | Terrifion: You can use the /script command in WoW to enter lua code |
| 04:27.01 | Shirik | Terrifion: console exists but probably not what you want |
| 04:27.01 | kergoth | Shirik: Brilliant! |
| 04:27.05 | Terrifion | alright |
| 04:27.07 | raevanmorlock | like /script mycoolvar = 2: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(mycoolvar); |
| 04:27.24 | Shirik | except you'd use a semicolon instead of a colon |
| 04:27.26 | pastamancer | not a full colon, just a semi-colon |
| 04:27.33 | raevanmorlock | typo >< |
| 04:28.16 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 04:28.22 | Shirik | does _G exist within _G ? |
| 04:28.32 | Esamynn|raiding | yes |
| 04:28.37 | Shirik | fun... |
| 04:28.38 | kergoth | if _G is a global.. but if you're using it, you should really make it a local |
| 04:28.42 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:29.08 | Shirik | _G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G._G.CreateFrame(...) |
| 04:29.14 | Shirik | tempted to write that in one of my addons somewhere.. |
| 04:29.14 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 04:30.05 | raevanmorlock | well.. it doesn't error |
| 04:30.24 | raevanmorlock | but you might be over the 80 char line length |
| 04:30.29 | Iriel | Wow doesn't define _G by default does it? |
| 04:30.34 | Esamynn|raiding | it does now |
| 04:30.35 | raevanmorlock | It does |
| 04:30.46 | Iriel | Interesting, wonder why |
| 04:31.13 | raevanmorlock | Why not? |
| 04:31.23 | Shirik | perhaps they use it somewhere, Iriel? |
| 04:31.44 | Iriel | raevanmorlock: Because it didn't used to be |
| 04:31.57 | raevanmorlock | I thought _G was a standard LUA thing |
| 04:32.02 | Iriel | Shirik: Perhaps, though they have getglobal for that, but that all predates allowing us to have getfenv |
| 04:32.08 | Iriel | raevanmorlock: It is, but we didn't used to have it |
| 04:32.27 | Terrifion | okay |
| 04:32.29 | Terrifion | so with the previous frame |
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| 04:32.43 | raevanmorlock | weird |
| 04:32.45 | Shirik | isn't _G faster than getglobal() ? |
| 04:32.58 | Iriel | Yes, much |
| 04:33.27 | raevanmorlock | Do they work the same? Could you do _G["UIParent"]? |
| 04:34.41 | raevanmorlock | Should I just try that and answer the question myself? |
| 04:34.42 | Terrifion | so with that previous frame I would refer to it as DuraFrame no? |
| 04:34.49 | raevanmorlock | Correct |
| 04:34.49 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:35.18 | raevanmorlock | does work.. neat. getglobal() seems awfully pointless now |
| 04:35.46 | Shirik | there are cases where getglobal is not the same as _G |
| 04:35.52 | Shirik | specifically if you've used setfenv |
| 04:36.08 | raevanmorlock | ah.. I've never used that stuff |
| 04:36.14 | Iriel | I'm not sure that's correct |
| 04:36.22 | Iriel | You'd have to use setfenv(0) AND redefine _G |
| 04:36.53 | Shirik | well my interpreter doesn't like getglobal() so, don't really have a way to test it :( |
| 04:37.26 | Iriel | local G=getfenv(0) function getglobal(name) return G[name]; end |
| 04:37.42 | Terrifion | alright I'm not sure why this isn't working, I have specified the frame, I've done the OnLoad and the OnEvent |
| 04:38.04 | raevanmorlock | Terrifion: paste your code to http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 04:39.33 | Shirik | o.o |
| 04:39.34 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 04:39.37 | Shirik | Iriel, I did: a = {}; assert(_G["a"] == getglobal(a)); |
| 04:39.44 | Shirik | and that throws an assertion failure... |
| 04:39.50 | Shirik | without setfenv o.o |
| 04:40.35 | Iriel | getglobal("a") |
| 04:40.39 | Shirik | ... |
| 04:40.41 | Shirik | I feel like a moron |
| 04:40.42 | Shirik | thanks |
| 04:40.52 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 04:41.02 | Terrifion | Shirik: we're in the same boat |
| 04:43.07 | Shirik | well that exploded my ui.... |
| 04:43.09 | Shirik | not trying that again |
| 04:43.33 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 04:43.40 | raevanmorlock | The assertion exploded it? That's odd. |
| 04:43.43 | Shirik | I ran that and every addon I had started throwing errors :P |
| 04:43.48 | Shirik | no, not what I wrote |
| 04:43.53 | Shirik | when I did setfenv(0, {}) |
| 04:43.57 | Shirik | and of course it did, it should have :P |
| 04:44.01 | raevanmorlock | oooh |
| 04:44.27 | Shirik | but Iriel: Um... when I did a setfenv(1, {}), both _G and getglobal became nil so I don't really have a good answer for you |
| 04:44.38 | Iriel | Yes, exactly 8-) |
| 04:44.51 | Iriel | You could capture them in locals beforehand |
| 04:45.31 | Iriel | local _G,getglobal,assert = _G,getglobal,assert; a={}; setfenv(0, {}); asset(_G["a"] == getglobal("a")); |
| 04:45.59 | raevanmorlock | That wouldn't stop other things from crashing though, would it? |
| 04:46.01 | Shirik | WAH |
| 04:46.04 | Shirik | All my SVs disappeared?! |
| 04:46.12 | Shirik | *headdesk* |
| 04:46.34 | Shirik | apparently when I did a setfenv(0, {}) then logged out, it saved my nonexistent SVs >< |
| 04:46.45 | Shirik | should have a backup somewhere... |
| 04:46.52 | Terrifion | raevan: did you get my PM? |
| 04:46.59 | raevanmorlock | nope |
| 04:47.01 | Terrifion | hmm |
| 04:47.15 | Shirik | Terrifion: You are not identified to services |
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| 04:47.19 | Terrifion | oh yeah |
| 04:47.20 | Terrifion | here |
| 04:47.21 | Shirik | you have to identify before you can send PMs on this network |
| 04:48.55 | Shirik | yesy for ui manager backup ^^ |
| 04:49.00 | Shirik | s/yesy/yey/ |
| 04:49.18 | raevanmorlock | Terrifion: Frame:RegisterEvent should be DuraFrame:RegisterEvent |
| 04:49.32 | raevanmorlock | And you need more code |
| 04:49.32 | Terrifion | wtf |
| 04:49.32 | Shirik | mmm |
| 04:49.37 | Terrifion | I saved that |
| 04:49.38 | Terrifion | as that |
| 04:49.41 | Terrifion | hmm |
| 04:49.47 | Terrifion | what code do I need more of |
| 04:49.47 | Shirik | oh I see what you're saying, misread |
| 04:52.09 | raevanmorlock | http://wowi.pastey.net/16283 |
| 04:53.12 | ckknight | Shirik: hey, I did that today, too |
| 04:53.13 | Nerinia | Erm, DuraAlert_OnEvent is nil when you set it on line 2. |
| 04:53.17 | raevanmorlock | oh.. and OnEvent shouldn't have event as the param... event is a global and listing it there will override it |
| 04:53.29 | Shirik | ckknight: You should have warned me!! T_T |
| 04:53.34 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:53.37 | Shirik | least I have a recent backup of WTF though :P |
| 04:54.20 | raevanmorlock | Does anyone else find it odd that that folder is called WTF? |
| 04:57.55 | kaiden | raevanmorlock, Warcraft Text File |
| 04:57.55 | kaiden | :p |
| 04:58.11 | ckknight | it's also likely an inside joke. |
| 04:58.21 | Shirik | probably |
| 04:58.42 | Iriel | raevanmorlock: What? OnEvent SHOULD have event as a param.. WhateverFrame_OnEvent(self, event, ...) or equivalent |
| 04:58.53 | Shirik | Oh |
| 04:58.54 | Shirik | YES |
| 04:59.01 | Shirik | raevanmorlock I missed that but I should shoot you for saying that :P |
| 04:59.03 | Iriel | raevanmorlock: It's faster and better encapsulated that way |
| 04:59.15 | raevanmorlock | Really? The wowwiki doesn't have it like that -- http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
| 04:59.22 | Shirik | because that's the old, deprecated syntax |
| 04:59.39 | Iriel | Must sleep now. night. |
| 04:59.40 | raevanmorlock | Either way, it's not OnEvent(event) :) I'll have to update my addon now |
| 04:59.44 | raevanmorlock | Night, Iriel |
| 04:59.51 | Shirik | night Iriel |
| 04:59.56 | Shirik | sure it is |
| 04:59.59 | Shirik | if you want it to be |
| 05:00.13 | Shirik | WhateverFrame:OnEvent(event) |
| 05:00.44 | raevanmorlock | unction DuraAlert_OnEvent(event) |
| 05:00.59 | raevanmorlock | is what he had though |
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| 05:03.10 | raevanmorlock | Terrifion: change the function definition to function DuraAlert_OnEvent(self, event) |
| 05:04.28 | Terrifion | still not working |
| 05:04.28 | raevanmorlock | (the code you just sent me had DurAlert [missing an a] so it didn't work) |
| 05:04.39 | Terrifion | I added the a |
| 05:04.45 | Terrifion | in when I added the self, event |
| 05:05.04 | Terrifion | oops I forgot to save omfg |
| 05:05.11 | Terrifion | :( |
| 05:05.30 | raevanmorlock | oh.. and I'm a dumb fuck |
| 05:05.30 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=97772966&sid=1 |
| 05:05.30 | raevanmorlock | the function definition should be at the top |
| 05:05.31 | raevanmorlock | so that it exists before the :SetScript("OnEvent", DuraAlert_OnEvent) |
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| 05:06.24 | Shirik | are you using XML? |
| 05:07.01 | Terrifion | no |
| 05:07.37 | Shirik | well in either case, I advise against the naming scheme you're using |
| 05:07.43 | ckknight | learn to namespace! |
| 05:07.43 | Shirik | but don't go about changing it now, just in the future.. |
| 05:07.55 | Terrifion | what do you mean? |
| 05:08.23 | Shirik | you're polluting the global namespace with variables DuraAlert_OnEvent, DuraAlert, and all that |
| 05:08.33 | Shirik | If your addon is named DuraAlert, you should do something like |
| 05:08.36 | raevanmorlock | Don't go getting him confused now, Shirik |
| 05:08.43 | ckknight | no, raevanmorlock |
| 05:08.53 | ckknight | if confusion is necessary to separate the sheep from the goats, so be it |
| 05:09.01 | Shirik | DuraAlert = {}; DuraAlert.frame = CreateFrame(...); function DuraAlert.OnEvent( ... |
| 05:09.01 | Shirik | etc |
| 05:09.03 | Terrifion | I'm a sheep? |
| 05:09.09 | raevanmorlock | sheep from goats? .. that's the best you can come up with? |
| 05:09.15 | Terrifion | so |
| 05:09.18 | Terrifion | you want me to create a table |
| 05:09.27 | Terrifion | or I should in the future |
| 05:09.31 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/Object_Oriented_Programming#Namespaces |
| 05:09.31 | ckknight | raevanmorlock: biblical reference to Revelation |
| 05:09.39 | raevanmorlock | bah! |
| 05:09.48 | Shirik | I probably wouldn't bother to change it now; I'm just making a reference for future |
| 05:09.51 | ckknight | goats are slaughtered and sent to hell |
| 05:10.24 | Shirik | actually this is probably specifically the section you want: http://www.wowwiki.com/Object_Oriented_Programming#Namespace_Use |
| 05:10.27 | raevanmorlock | Code looks good to me, Terrifion |
| 05:10.44 | Terrifion | still not working though |
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| 05:11.05 | Shirik | what's "not working" and do you have a pastey? |
| 05:11.07 | Shirik | I'll take a look |
| 05:11.08 | raevanmorlock | http://wowi.pastey.net/16287 |
| 05:11.12 | raevanmorlock | that's the pastey |
| 05:11.42 | Terrifion | looks like after seeing my code he died and as he died he hit alt+f4 |
| 05:11.43 | raevanmorlock | Terrifion: is it throwing an error or anything? |
| 05:11.47 | Terrifion | no error |
| 05:11.49 | Terrifion | just silently failing |
| 05:12.02 | Terrifion | I've killed myself at least 10 times :o |
| 05:12.06 | Shirik | what is "failing" ? |
| 05:12.09 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 05:12.14 | raevanmorlock | it's not printing the message |
| 05:12.19 | raevanmorlock | I'm not familar with the event >< |
| 05:12.34 | Shirik | when's it supposed to print the message? |
| 05:12.39 | Terrifion | when I take dur |
| 05:12.46 | Kirkburn | I take no responsibility for this (the music is awesome though) - http://jackthompsonisadouche.ytmnd.com/ |
| 05:13.05 | raevanmorlock | I would add an onload event just to make sure it's loading and such |
| 05:13.16 | Terrifion | raevanmorlock: how would I go about doing that |
| 05:13.58 | raevanmorlock | Terrifion: What's the name of your addon? |
| 05:14.02 | Shirik | do a DuraFrame:Show() |
| 05:14.05 | Terrifion | DuraFrame |
| 05:14.28 | Shirik | Hidden frames do not receive events |
| 05:14.49 | Nerinia | sure? |
| 05:14.55 | Shirik | positive |
| 05:15.47 | Terrifion | omg |
| 05:15.49 | Terrifion | it worked |
| 05:15.50 | Terrifion | :DDD |
| 05:15.53 | Terrifion | <3 |
| 05:16.00 | Shirik | now |
| 05:16.07 | Shirik | how much is your repair bill from testing this? |
| 05:16.13 | Terrifion | I made room |
| 05:16.14 | Terrifion | >< |
| 05:16.14 | raevanmorlock | Shirik: I don't call :Show() on my frame and my events work |
| 05:16.26 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: It's really dependent upon how the frame is created, etc. |
| 05:16.34 | Shirik | But hidden frames will never receive events |
| 05:16.39 | raevanmorlock | ShowItemPrice.MainFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", "ShowItemPriceFrame", UIParent) |
| 05:16.55 | Shirik | there is one slight difference ;) |
| 05:16.58 | Shirik | do you see it? |
| 05:17.02 | raevanmorlock | I named it? |
| 05:17.06 | Shirik | mhmm |
| 05:17.13 | Shirik | now whether or not that's the effective difference, I don't know |
| 05:17.25 | raevanmorlock | lol.. well, yeah, I couldn't imagine how that would make a difference |
| 05:17.27 | Terrifion | so why didn't I name my frame |
| 05:17.32 | Terrifion | or why do you want to name your frame |
| 05:17.42 | Shirik | but I promise you if you Hide() your frame, you will not receive events |
| 05:17.48 | Shirik | Terrifion: Really, just because you took my code :P |
| 05:17.48 | raevanmorlock | I didn't name it for any particular reason |
| 05:17.55 | Shirik | I rarely name my frames |
| 05:18.01 | Shirik | because I keep them in specific variables |
| 05:18.06 | Terrifion | ah |
| 05:18.17 | raevanmorlock | I wrote that line awhile ago and never updated it |
| 05:18.24 | Shirik | do note the difference though |
| 05:18.28 | raevanmorlock | I'll set the name to nil adn see what happens |
| 05:18.36 | Shirik | raevanmorlock has two variables for the same frame: getglobal("ShowItemPriceFrame") and ShowItemPrice.MainFrame |
| 05:18.38 | raevanmorlock | I saw it... I just--I can't fathom why that would matter |
| 05:18.40 | Shirik | whereas you have one: DuraFrame |
| 05:18.52 | Shirik | that's really the only major difference |
| 05:18.59 | Shirik | but what you SHOULDN'T do |
| 05:19.03 | Shirik | is what you were trying to do before |
| 05:19.10 | Terrifion | ? |
| 05:19.16 | Shirik | DuraFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", "DuraFrame", UIParent) |
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| 05:19.26 | Shirik | naming it and then accepting the return value |
| 05:19.39 | Terrifion | accepting the return valueE? |
| 05:19.40 | Shirik | CreateFrame("Frame", "DuraFrame", UIParent) would have worked as well |
| 05:19.45 | Shirik | right, you did DuraFrame = |
| 05:19.51 | Shirik | but DuraFrame is created by CreateFrame |
| 05:19.59 | Shirik | I think I'm confusing you here :/ |
| 05:20.01 | Terrifion | so you don't want to do |
| 05:20.02 | Terrifion | I see |
| 05:20.04 | Terrifion | I think I get it |
| 05:20.08 | Terrifion | DuraFrame = |
| 05:20.24 | Shirik | foo = CreateFrame("Frame", "foo") is bad |
| 05:20.24 | Terrifion | okay yeah |
| 05:20.29 | Terrifion | okay |
| 05:20.32 | Shirik | because you're creating two of the same variable |
| 05:20.47 | Terrifion | would changing the foo in the CreateFrame() still be bad |
| 05:20.57 | Shirik | nope |
| 05:21.02 | Terrifion | alright |
| 05:21.02 | Terrifion | I see |
| 05:21.16 | AnduinLothar | wow there elementals on prince are fucking lame |
| 05:21.22 | raevanmorlock | I dunno, Shirik... the ADDON_LOADED event is working regardless of whether I name it or :Hide() it |
| 05:21.28 | AnduinLothar | it's so easy without them boxing you in |
| 05:21.36 | Shirik | you can't possibly hide the frame before ADDON_LOADED, raevanmorlock |
| 05:21.46 | Terrifion | okay, so now what I'm gonna do is create a /command to turn it on and off. is it best to make a variable and then on the event do if myvar == 1 then DEFAULT_CHAT... else |
| 05:21.46 | AnduinLothar | sure you can |
| 05:21.53 | Shirik | oh I guess you can |
| 05:21.54 | AnduinLothar | hide it onload |
| 05:21.58 | Terrifion | so if you type in /duraframe off it would set the var to 0 |
| 05:22.02 | Terrifion | or 2 or something other than 1 |
| 05:22.10 | Terrifion | or is there a more effective way |
| 05:22.18 | Shirik | how did you hide it, raevanmorlock |
| 05:22.45 | raevanmorlock | after the create, setscript, and registerevent calls, I did ShowItemPrice.MainFrame:Hide() |
| 05:22.58 | Shirik | mmmmmm |
| 05:23.09 | Shirik | apparently I was confused, only OnUpdate isn't called on hidden frames :/ |
| 05:23.17 | raevanmorlock | That would make sense :) |
| 05:23.21 | Shirik | this doesn't solve the problem of why Terrifion's didn't work then |
| 05:23.30 | raevanmorlock | maybe he forgot to save some change? |
| 05:23.52 | Terrifion | here, let me kill myself again |
| 05:23.55 | Terrifion | without the sho |
| 05:23.56 | Terrifion | show |
| 05:24.05 | Terrifion | brb |
| 05:25.10 | Terrifion | it worked |
| 05:25.12 | Terrifion | even without the show |
| 05:25.19 | raevanmorlock | Good! |
| 05:25.21 | Terrifion | local DuraFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent); |
| 05:25.21 | Terrifion | function DuraAlert_OnEvent(self, event) |
| 05:25.21 | Terrifion | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Testing", 1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 60); |
| 05:25.21 | Terrifion | end |
| 05:25.21 | Terrifion | DuraFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", DuraAlert_OnEvent); |
| 05:25.22 | Terrifion | DuraFrame:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_MISC_INFO"); |
| 05:25.27 | Terrifion | thats the code |
| 05:25.52 | raevanmorlock | obviously :P |
| 05:26.00 | Shirik | please don't do that |
| 05:26.27 | Shirik | I don't really care much but some people in this channel will get pissed at you if you paste more than 3 lines at a time |
| 05:26.35 | Shirik | 'tis what pastey's for |
| 05:26.42 | Terrifion | alright, will not do |
| 05:26.43 | Terrifion | :o |
| 05:26.47 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 05:26.57 | Thunder_Child | ~growls Terrifion |
| 05:27.09 | Thunder_Child | damn, purl failed me |
| 05:27.15 | Thunder_Child | ~growl Terrifion |
| 05:27.18 | Shirik | purl, you fail |
| 05:27.20 | purl | ACTION slaps you for calling her a failure. |
| 05:27.20 | raevanmorlock | growls? |
| 05:27.24 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 05:27.31 | Shirik | ~factinfo growl |
| 05:27.31 | purl | growl -- created by lild0g <~1811e8df@server24.greatnet.de> at Mon Mar 22 04:46:06 2004 (1128 days); it has been requested 11 times, last by maquis at Fri Jan 19 11:51:48 2007. |
| 05:27.34 | Shirik | :/ |
| 05:27.42 | Thunder_Child | ~growl |
| 05:27.47 | purl | ACTION growls as loud as a storm and screams "I'LL CRUSH WHOEVER GETS IN MY WAY!!!" |
| 05:27.47 | Terrifion | ~growl Thunder_Child |
| 05:27.51 | Thunder_Child | i guess it;s not interactive |
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| 05:28.06 | raevanmorlock | Purl is an odd mistress |
| 05:28.08 | Thunder_Child | s/it;s/it's/ |
| 05:28.27 | Shirik | purl is as slow as the wow forums on patch day, today |
| 05:28.36 | Thunder_Child | it seems so |
| 05:28.40 | Thunder_Child | ~slay purl |
| 05:28.42 | purl | ACTION brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, purl!" apt lops off purl's head. |
| 05:28.42 | raevanmorlock | I think that s/// just didn't work |
| 05:29.02 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:29.03 | Shirik | apt |
| 05:29.17 | raevanmorlock | I was wondering about that the other day |
| 05:29.27 | raevanmorlock | ~define apt |
| 05:29.29 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 05:29.30 | cogwheel | ~literal slay |
| 05:29.32 | purl | "slay" is "<reply> Kills all of a users processes.. URL: ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/admin/idle/Slay.1.2.tar.gz" |
| 05:29.36 | raevanmorlock | ~dict apt |
| 05:29.42 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: apt is not what you're going to get in a dictionary |
| 05:29.48 | Thunder_Child | literal doesnt seem to work for interactive commands |
| 05:29.51 | Shirik | apt = Advanced Package Tool or something like that |
| 05:29.58 | Shirik | it's.... |
| 05:30.02 | Shirik | hm |
| 05:30.16 | raevanmorlock | That definition sounded good to me.. though it doesn't make sense in the context purl used it |
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| 05:30.22 | Shirik | here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool |
| 05:30.41 | Terrifion | aptly |
| 05:30.42 | Thunder_Child | like apt get |
| 05:30.45 | Shirik | o.o |
| 05:30.51 | Shirik | apt-get moo |
| 05:30.55 | Shirik | is a real command? |
| 05:30.56 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 05:31.00 | Thunder_Child | linux |
| 05:31.04 | Shirik | <3 Wikipedia, teaching me new stuff every day |
| 05:31.09 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I mean the moo part :P |
| 05:31.12 | Shirik | It's an easter egg |
| 05:31.32 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool#Easter_Egg |
| 05:31.59 | Thunder_Child | apt-get Hot sexy willing woman |
| 05:32.06 | Thunder_Child | na, nothin |
| 05:32.41 | Thunder_Child | wait..it has to be a package.... apt-get Hot sexy willing twins |
| 05:32.41 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:33.03 | Thunder_Child | heh, sounds like a package to me |
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| 05:38.36 | raevanmorlock | What happened to all the questions? I want more problems to solve! |
| 05:39.16 | Shirik | this seems backwards |
| 05:39.38 | raevanmorlock | I know.. I'm usually the one asking all teh silly questions |
| 05:40.55 | Shirik | Quote from my combat log: "Your Infected Wound is removed Kimina's Abolish Disease. You cast Abolish Disease. Infected Wound fades from you. You gain Abolish Disease. Abolish Disease fades from you." |
| 05:41.15 | raevanmorlock | *headache* |
| 05:41.16 | Terrifion | want more stuff to solve |
| 05:41.22 | Terrifion | I need to make a slash command |
| 05:41.22 | Terrifion | :D |
| 05:45.16 | raevanmorlock | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command |
| 05:45.48 | Terrifion | I looked at that |
| 05:46.19 | Terrifion | right now I'm searching for a way to make it do something depending on which slash command was used |
| 05:47.32 | raevanmorlock | like /bleh and /blah doing two different things? |
| 05:48.00 | Terrifion | well |
| 05:48.01 | Terrifion | actually |
| 05:48.04 | Terrifion | I just want it to be like |
| 05:48.15 | Terrifion | t/blah enable and /blah disable |
| 05:48.38 | raevanmorlock | You have to parse the text |
| 05:48.56 | raevanmorlock | Shirik: You got any texts on doing that? |
| 05:49.10 | Shirik | mmm |
| 05:49.18 | Shirik | I disagree with your method of handling it |
| 05:49.46 | raevanmorlock | I've never done it |
| 05:50.29 | Shirik | make two SlashCmdList entries |
| 05:50.32 | Shirik | one for each function to call |
| 05:51.00 | Terrifion | so like |
| 05:51.11 | Terrifion | SLASH_ADDONNAME1 = "/slash1"; |
| 05:51.14 | Terrifion | would be |
| 05:51.23 | Terrifion | one for enable and one for disable |
| 05:51.35 | Shirik | oooh |
| 05:51.38 | Shirik | you want the same slash command |
| 05:51.43 | Shirik | but two parameters |
| 05:51.45 | Terrifion | aye |
| 05:51.46 | Shirik | yes, then you'll be parsing the text |
| 05:51.54 | Terrifion | alright |
| 05:52.00 | raevanmorlock | :) |
| 05:57.01 | Terrifion | okay |
| 05:57.12 | Terrifion | so how do I detect subs trings |
| 05:57.19 | raevanmorlock | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Extract_Info_from_a_Slash_Command |
| 05:57.47 | Terrifion | yeah I'm reading that but I'm getting confused |
| 05:58.04 | Shirik | ow... |
| 05:58.20 | Shirik | that's.... kinda ugly |
| 05:58.23 | raevanmorlock | ow? |
| 05:58.27 | raevanmorlock | I didn't really look at it yet |
| 05:58.53 | Shirik | Terrifion: Just take the parameter |
| 05:58.55 | Shirik | use string.find |
| 05:59.23 | Nerinia | Why not string.match, i like that new function :( |
| 05:59.46 | tardmrr | wow lame |
| 06:00.04 | Tem | Choker of the Fire Lord is still the most spell damage on a neck in the game |
| 06:00.08 | raevanmorlock | I was wondering who tardmrr was |
| 06:00.09 | Shirik | Nerina: You could, there's no real reason to use one over the other |
| 06:00.25 | Tem | raevanmorlock, you could have looked at my hostmask |
| 06:00.41 | raevanmorlock | sure.. if I knew what that is |
| 06:00.45 | Shirik | lol. |
| 06:00.54 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.57 | Shirik | Get a client that logs all hostmasks and shows alternate names :P |
| 06:00.58 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.08 | Shirik | so whenever that person logs on, you get something like... |
| 06:01.14 | Shirik | 01:36:34 » Join: tardmrr ‹n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem› ‹clones: +Tem, tardmrr› |
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| 06:01.51 | raevanmorlock | What would you suggest, Shirik? I'm usin mIRC right now. |
| 06:02.05 | Shirik | nbs-irc is a script package for mirc you can use |
| 06:02.11 | Shirik | didn't I already give that to you? |
| 06:02.28 | raevanmorlock | nope |
| 06:02.53 | Shirik | http://www.nbs-irc.net/ |
| 06:02.59 | Shirik | get the full version, install it to the same location as mirc |
| 06:03.04 | kaiden | www.nnscript.de is also a nice one |
| 06:03.15 | Shirik | nnscript is also popular yes |
| 06:03.38 | Shirik | nbs-irc isn't popular it's just the one I've fallen in love with, as much as I can fall in love with a windows-based program |
| 06:04.19 | Terrifion | this is giving me a headcahe |
| 06:04.25 | Terrifion | headache* |
| 06:04.31 | raevanmorlock | Yup, that happens. |
| 06:04.58 | kaiden | i'll give it a try |
| 06:04.59 | Shirik | I really do have a headache :( |
| 06:05.01 | Shirik | I slept too long... |
| 06:05.24 | raevanmorlock | Do I install to mIRC or to mIRC/nbs-irc ? |
| 06:05.32 | Shirik | mirc |
| 06:06.45 | raevanmorlock | Alright.... now what? lol |
| 06:08.44 | Terrifion | okay, all I need is someone to give me a command to search through text for a specific string with its arguments and i think i can do this |
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| 06:09.49 | raevanmorlock | durrrr.. what? |
| 06:10.04 | Shirik | string.find or string.match |
| 06:10.36 | Terrifion | how would I use that |
| 06:10.51 | Shirik | look it up |
| 06:10.55 | Terrifion | alright |
| 06:11.01 | raevanmorlock | www.lua.net > docs |
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| 06:12.51 | raevanmorlock | wow.. the font is all different now |
| 06:13.03 | raevanmorlock | and the icons.. and damn near everything |
| 06:13.04 | Terrifion | lua.net is like, in a diff language |
| 06:13.08 | Terrifion | you mean .org? |
| 06:13.26 | raevanmorlock | lmao |
| 06:13.33 | raevanmorlock | yeah.. org |
| 06:13.41 | raevanmorlock | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 06:13.51 | raevanmorlock | ctrl+f string.find |
| 06:13.52 | Shirik | use PIL |
| 06:13.53 | Shirik | http://www.lua.org/pil/20.1.html |
| 06:14.04 | Terrifion | okay so, i use string.find(msg, "enable") it gives me the indices, what can I do with them |
| 06:14.24 | Shirik | string.find returns more than that |
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| 06:16.32 | Shirik | > =string.find("hello this is a lovely test", "(%w+) this is a (%w+) test"); |
| 06:16.32 | Shirik | 1 27 hello lovely |
| 06:16.49 | Terrifion | lol this entire time I've been using that keybinded reload addon you made instead of macroing it |
| 06:16.50 | Terrifion | <3 |
| 06:17.25 | raevanmorlock | mine? |
| 06:17.35 | Terrifion | aye |
| 06:17.38 | Terrifion | off wowinterface |
| 06:17.42 | raevanmorlock | nice :) |
| 06:17.54 | WobWork | >>> string.find("hello this is a lovely test", "(%w+) this is a (%w+) test"); |
| 06:18.06 | WobWork | damnit |
| 06:18.08 | WobWork | no cide =P |
| 06:18.09 | Terrifion | ? |
| 06:18.33 | raevanmorlock | Cide has a lua bot we use in chan |
| 06:18.37 | raevanmorlock | He's been gone alot lately |
| 06:18.41 | WobWork | =( |
| 06:19.19 | WobWork | or just IRC? |
| 06:19.27 | raevanmorlock | well.. both |
| 06:19.44 | raevanmorlock | but I installed this nbs-irc thingy and now my font is alld ifferent adn I don't even know how to set it back |
| 06:20.17 | Shirik | heh |
| 06:20.36 | Shirik | hit F2, go to "theme & font" |
| 06:20.45 | raevanmorlock | F2 does nothing |
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| 06:21.28 | Shirik | then go to script->control panel |
| 06:21.45 | raevanmorlock | Script menu is empty |
| 06:21.50 | Shirik | then you installed it wrong |
| 06:21.59 | raevanmorlock | But.. stuff changed! |
| 06:22.30 | raevanmorlock | I've got an nbs.ico in my mIRC folder and a scripts folder in there |
| 06:22.32 | Shirik | I am so sick of desynced mobs... |
| 06:22.47 | Terrifion | how do I create a saved variable |
| 06:22.57 | raevanmorlock | list the variable name in your TOC file |
| 06:23.16 | raevanmorlock | ## SavedVariables: ShowItemPrice_SavedVars |
| 06:23.17 | kahdgarxi | ##SavedVariables: var1,var2 |
| 06:23.22 | Terrifion | alright |
| 06:23.24 | Terrifion | then how do I save to that file |
| 06:23.34 | raevanmorlock | it saves it automatically |
| 06:23.46 | raevanmorlock | and makes it available when it loads your addon |
| 06:23.48 | Terrifion | ah |
| 06:23.56 | Terrifion | also |
| 06:24.36 | Terrifion | say Cmd = "blah" and Cmd2 = "blah2" would msg == (Cmd.. Cmd2) be valid or not? |
| 06:24.45 | Terrifion | how do I check against strings if not |
| 06:24.49 | WobWork | yes |
| 06:24.53 | Terrifion | okay thanks |
| 06:24.53 | WobWork | well |
| 06:24.55 | WobWork | no |
| 06:24.56 | Terrifion | ? |
| 06:25.13 | WobWork | if you're using it in an if statement, then yes |
| 06:25.15 | Terrifion | yes |
| 06:25.18 | WobWork | cause it's a comparison |
| 06:26.03 | raevanmorlock | gah..g otta go play WoW |
| 06:26.09 | Terrifion | how do I save a variable to the saved variables file |
| 06:26.17 | kahdgarxi | just set it |
| 06:26.22 | kahdgarxi | if it's in the .toc, it gets saved |
| 06:26.25 | Terrifion | okay |
| 06:26.26 | WobWork | it'll save on logout |
| 06:26.29 | WobWork | or reload |
| 06:26.29 | Terrifion | thanks |
| 06:26.48 | kahdgarxi | (you have to restart wow after changing the .toc, a simple reload won't do it) |
| 06:30.47 | Shirik | :( metatables don't propogate |
| 06:31.35 | Shirik | Does anyone have a better solution for this: I want to force my metatable to persist. So, if someone does setmetatable(), first it will check my metatable, and then if mine doesn't have a solution, it will proceed to check the one set. I tried overriding setmetatable() to set _my_ metatable to the supplied one, but that didn't work |
| 06:32.47 | WobWork | so you kinda want a forced inheritance of your metatable? |
| 06:32.53 | Tem | you can set the __metatable feild |
| 06:32.56 | Tem | so that they just can't |
| 06:33.38 | Shirik | WobWork: Basically, yeah. I want them to be able to do setmetatable() still, but if my metatable has a metamethod, that one is used instead of the one that was supplied. (Or perhaps the other way around, I haven't really decided upon that yet) |
| 06:34.28 | WobWork | multiple inheritance with you deciding what functions will be merged? |
| 06:34.54 | WobWork | if you set the __metatable to a function, can you get the metatable input? |
| 06:35.04 | WobWork | like you can with _index |
| 06:35.05 | WobWork | ? |
| 06:35.08 | Shirik | I've actually never heard of __metatable |
| 06:35.39 | WobWork | (nor I =)) |
| 06:35.41 | Shirik | what does it do? |
| 06:36.13 | Terrifion | just for reference, I made this abomination of code http://wowi.pastey.net/16302 and shirik showed me this http://wowi.pastey.net/16303 in an attempt to fix it, I haven't tried it yet though |
| 06:36.21 | Shirik | hehe |
| 06:36.30 | WobWork | ah you can't =\ |
| 06:36.35 | WobWork | http://www.lua.org/pil/13.3.html |
| 06:36.59 | Shirik | that's _exactly_ what I wanted to do |
| 06:37.09 | Shirik | I was working on a library which will be setting a metamethod |
| 06:37.57 | Shirik | ah so if I set __metatable, then setmetatable() will fail |
| 06:38.03 | WobWork | yeah |
| 06:38.05 | Shirik | and getmetatable() will do nothing |
| 06:38.23 | WobWork | but you won't get any response as to what they actually tried to set as the metatable |
| 06:38.35 | Shirik | well I was considering overriding setmetatable() anyway |
| 06:38.45 | WobWork | I was hoping for something like __index where you got the table/index passed in |
| 06:39.09 | WobWork | so you could parse the table and choose what you wanted to implement etc |
| 06:39.27 | Terrifion | that didn't work |
| 06:40.05 | Shirik | what did it do? |
| 06:40.08 | Shirik | or didn't do? |
| 06:41.37 | Terrifion | didn't do anything |
| 06:42.44 | WobWork | Terrifion: You may have to set it to Show |
| 06:43.15 | Shirik | WobWork: I think h means the slash command didn't do anything |
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| 06:44.15 | Shirik | And that would be because |
| 06:44.19 | WobWork | oh |
| 06:44.29 | Shirik | SLASH_DURAFRAME1 = "/nwdur"; |
| 06:44.32 | WobWork | I never worry about that cause I've always used frameworks to deal with slashcommands =) |
| 06:44.34 | Shirik | needs to be SLASH_DuraFrame1 = "/nwdur" |
| 06:44.43 | Shirik | Lua is case sensitive |
| 06:44.56 | WobWork | hm |
| 06:45.00 | Shirik | SlashCmdList["DuraFrame"] = DuraFrame_Cmd; |
| 06:45.00 | Terrifion | ahhh |
| 06:45.02 | Shirik | they need to match |
| 06:45.02 | WobWork | He may need to name the frame at the top too |
| 06:45.15 | Shirik | nah, I don't name any of my frames :P |
| 06:45.18 | Terrifion | also, |
| 06:45.21 | Shirik | except the randomly generated ones |
| 06:45.32 | Terrifion | I want to do an if DuraFrameOn == nil then command OnLoad |
| 06:45.36 | Terrifion | where do I put it so it does it OnLoad |
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| 06:46.01 | Shirik | you can't "tell" a frame to do OnLoad |
| 06:46.03 | Shirik | if that's what you mean |
| 06:46.09 | Shirik | I'm not really sure I understand |
| 06:46.37 | Terrifion | well |
| 06:46.55 | Terrifion | I just want it so that when the addon loads, it does a check to see if it's nil, and if it is it sets it to 1 otherwise it does nothing |
| 06:46.59 | Terrifion | so that it doesn't enable it everytime |
| 06:50.04 | Shirik | ok so you need an OnLoad handler, yes? |
| 06:50.09 | Shirik | well not really |
| 06:50.15 | Shirik | if you use CreateFrame(), OnLoad never occurs |
| 06:50.30 | Shirik | You would probably want to do that by registering for the VARIABLES_LOADED event |
| 06:50.33 | Shirik | and handling that |
| 06:50.46 | Terrifion | so |
| 06:51.28 | Terrifion | sorry |
| 06:51.30 | Terrifion | someone attacked me on wow |
| 06:51.33 | Terrifion | -_- |
| 06:51.43 | Terrifion | hmm |
| 06:51.49 | Shirik | heh |
| 06:51.50 | Terrifion | well |
| 06:51.53 | Terrifion | lets work on this |
| 06:52.09 | Terrifion | because it's not working |
| 06:52.29 | Shirik | what's not working? |
| 06:52.45 | Terrifion | doesn't display anything |
| 06:52.52 | Terrifion | not even a "/help..." thing |
| 06:54.41 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:54.45 | Shirik | repaste your code |
| 06:54.49 | Shirik | so we can see exactly what we have |
| 06:54.51 | Terrifion | alright |
| 06:54.56 | Shirik | and not to sound stupid or anything |
| 06:55.03 | Shirik | make sure you've saved and reloaded your ui :P |
| 06:55.06 | Terrifion | http://wowi.pastey.net/16312 |
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| 06:55.10 | WobWork | mm crashy |
| 06:56.02 | Shirik | crashes ftw |
| 06:56.08 | Terrifion | also, what is %w |
| 06:56.34 | Shirik | if you understand regexes, it's [0-9a-zA-Z] |
| 06:56.48 | WobWork | alphanumeric and not whitespace |
| 06:56.57 | WobWork | ie, a 'word' =) |
| 06:57.00 | Shirik | whitespace isn't alphanumeric >< |
| 06:57.00 | Terrifion | ahh |
| 06:57.08 | WobWork | well, yes. |
| 06:57.14 | WobWork | but it's easier to clarify that way |
| 06:57.18 | Shirik | hehe |
| 06:57.46 | Shadowed | words include numbres? =p |
| 06:57.50 | Shadowed | s/numbres/numbers/ |
| 06:58.01 | Shirik | ah crap |
| 06:58.05 | Terrifion | ? |
| 06:58.06 | Shirik | Terrifion: |
| 06:58.17 | Shirik | Remove the /nwdur |
| 06:58.22 | Shirik | in the string.match |
| 06:58.29 | WobWork | oh =) |
| 06:58.30 | Shirik | msg will only contain the contents after the command |
| 06:58.36 | Shirik | iirc |
| 06:58.37 | WobWork | cause it doesn't pass the command with it |
| 06:58.49 | Terrifion | leave a space or no |
| 06:58.55 | Shirik | nah |
| 06:59.20 | Shirik | also that "else" floating down there is useless |
| 06:59.39 | Shirik | you can remove it if you so desire, or (what you probably should do) in the else block, write a message "Unknown command" or something |
| 06:59.50 | Terrifion | haha |
| 06:59.51 | Terrifion | I did |
| 07:00.50 | Terrifion | how would I add it so that if it's just /nwdur it says something |
| 07:01.23 | Shirik | you would have to check if msg == "" |
| 07:01.27 | Shirik | or maybe it's nil |
| 07:01.29 | Shirik | I forget |
| 07:01.30 | Shirik | probably "" |
| 07:01.46 | Terrifion | I tried "" |
| 07:01.50 | Terrifion | gave me unknown command |
| 07:02.25 | Terrifion | nil worked |
| 07:03.30 | Terrifion | alright so the last thing I want to do is used a VARIABLE_LOADED event so that it doesn't enable it everytime it loads |
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| 07:10.34 | kaiden | RegisterForEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED") if (VARIABLES_LOADED) and (NOT whateverthevariableis) then |
| 07:10.36 | kaiden | do whatever |
| 07:11.00 | Terrifion | ty |
| 07:11.58 | kaiden | the problem is when you dev in so many different languages that you start melding syntax's ;) |
| 07:12.23 | kaiden | and && != not empty rawrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 07:12.34 | Terrifion | lol |
| 07:12.39 | Terrifion | how would I colorize a text variable |
| 07:13.01 | kaiden | var = |cffHEXCOLOR + var |
| 07:13.18 | kaiden | erm var = "|cffHEXCOLOR" + var |
| 07:15.16 | kaiden | man .. what i wouldn't give for wow to be able to read from a text file |
| 07:15.23 | kaiden | that way you wouldn't have to store it all in memory :( |
| 07:15.40 | kaiden | would be so nice to be able to write in game addon "guides" like you can in eq2 |
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| 07:17.41 | Shirik | (sorry important phonecall, otherwise I'd be helping you) |
| 07:17.48 | Shirik | jp;y cra[ O |
| 07:17.52 | Shirik | oop |
| 07:17.55 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 07:18.01 | Shirik | that was supposed to say |
| 07:18.10 | Shirik | "Holy crap I've been on the phone for like 20 minutes already" |
| 07:18.24 | WobWork | You're very concise in your abbreviations =) |
| 07:19.09 | Shirik | moving your hand one position to the right works wonders :D |
| 07:19.37 | WobWork | I often use the physical shift method for passwords |
| 07:22.12 | Shirik | hm |
| 07:22.14 | Shirik | that's interesting |
| 07:22.17 | Shirik | I should try that perhaps |
| 07:31.08 | Terrifion | gonna grab some sleep, gnight and thanks for the help! |
| 07:39.35 | Shirik | hmmm, guess I'll head down to krispy kreme |
| 07:39.37 | Shirik | haven't been there in a while |
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| 07:54.25 | Aegus | how do you handle variables in lua? |
| 07:54.43 | Aegus | is there %variable="" or is it just variable=value |
| 07:55.52 | nevcairiel | just variable = value |
| 07:58.09 | Aegus | thanks |
| 07:58.56 | Aegus | what is ( ~= )? |
| 08:02.03 | tlund | Aegus: not equal to |
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| 08:05.26 | Aegus | ok.. |
| 08:05.40 | Aegus | can you put variables in text quotations ? |
| 08:06.13 | Aegus | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Variablehere: was detected!"); |
| 08:06.16 | Aegus | like that? |
| 08:06.37 | Aegus | or: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(Variablehere": was detected!"); |
| 08:07.55 | ckknight | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(Variablehere .. ": was detected!"); |
| 08:08.33 | Aegus | thank you. |
| 08:09.18 | Aegus | maybe one more |
| 08:09.27 | Aegus | can i use variables on variable names? |
| 08:09.28 | ckknight | http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 08:09.37 | ckknight | read the pil |
| 08:09.37 | Aegus | Variable..Variable2 |
| 08:09.43 | ckknight | my recommendation |
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| 08:16.25 | Shirik | Aegus: PiL is very ftw |
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| 08:23.29 | raevanmorlock | Respect my authoritay! |
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| 08:43.36 | ckknight | Shirik: your mom is ftw |
| 08:43.36 | ckknight | btw |
| 08:43.46 | raevanmorlock | wow.. nbs-irc is way different when you install it correctly |
| 08:44.22 | SunTiger | most things are. |
| 08:44.39 | raevanmorlock | shush you! |
| 08:50.16 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: lol. |
| 08:50.52 | Shirik | hm, I'm using an outdated version |
| 08:50.58 | Shirik | maybe I'll upgrade sometime |
| 08:51.07 | raevanmorlock | :-P |
| 08:51.39 | Aegus | im trying to get my addon to scan 5 different spells in localization.. but check all different ranks |
| 08:52.09 | Shirik | oh |
| 08:52.11 | Shirik | "This fixes Auto connect and NickServ not working properly under Windows 98/ME/2000. This update is not needed if you are using Windows XP or higher." |
| 08:52.15 | Shirik | bleh, forget it no reason to update |
| 08:52.29 | raevanmorlock | hehe |
| 08:55.33 | Shirik | anyway, take care. Hope that I wake up in 3 hours for my presentation :P |
| 08:55.43 | raevanmorlock | good night, Shirik |
| 09:03.15 | Aegus | hmm.. . |
| 09:03.23 | Aegus | i read through pil |
| 09:03.35 | Aegus | couldnt find any information on using two variables in one. |
| 09:04.09 | Aegus | Variable1=Spell Variable2=1 Variable1Variable2 = Spell1 |
| 09:04.15 | Aegus | how do i get those results? |
| 09:04.23 | raevanmorlock | no idea what you're saying |
| 09:04.41 | Aegus | hmm.. how else can i put it |
| 09:05.25 | Aegus | i want to use Variable1+Variable2 (not mathematically) but as a string together.. . |
| 09:05.31 | Tem | string concatenation |
| 09:05.33 | Tem | it's there |
| 09:05.37 | Tem | you just didn't actually read it |
| 09:05.37 | raevanmorlock | Use the concatenation operator |
| 09:05.37 | Aegus | thanks |
| 09:05.40 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.48 | Tem | a = "hello" |
| 09:05.51 | Tem | b = "world" |
| 09:06.00 | Tem | a .. " " .. b == "hello world" |
| 09:07.04 | Fin | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=107592104&sid=1 |
| 09:07.13 | Aegus | yeah.. i cant try that. |
| 09:07.17 | Fin | heh |
| 09:07.27 | raevanmorlock | God.. I didn't even figure out everything mIRC could do yet and now I've got all this new stuff from nbs-irc to figure out |
| 09:07.29 | Aegus | can' |
| 09:07.33 | Aegus | my mistake |
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| 09:11.12 | Aegus | string concatenation is that the same as manipulating the variable name.. |
| 09:11.24 | Tem | no |
| 09:11.40 | Aegus | where would i look under that? |
| 09:21.19 | Kaso | you want to know about string concatenation |
| 09:21.24 | Kaso | or manipulating var names? |
| 09:21.44 | Kaso | Aegus |
| 09:30.26 | Kaso | I wonder if DressUpModel:TryOn("item") follows the same validity checks as other things, or if i can equip ashbringer and stuff :> |
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| 09:34.37 | Fin | I finally get round to adding Sellfish support to GarbageFu, and Tekkub just added it himself yesterday :) |
| 09:40.03 | raevanmorlock | Ya snooze ya lose :) |
| 09:44.54 | raevanmorlock | os: Windows XP Home, Edition Service Pack 2 :: cpu: Intel Pentium 4, 2.39 GHz :: mem: 596/1408 MB (42%) :: gfx: nVidia GeForce FX 5200 (1440x900x32bit 60Hz) |
| 09:45.29 | raevanmorlock | os: Windows XP Home, Edition Service Pack 2 :: uptime: 14h 12m 5s |
| 09:45.33 | raevanmorlock | uptime: 14h 12m 8s |
| 09:45.47 | raevanmorlock | ip: 70.162.70.30 |
| 09:46.42 | Zicon | Oh goodie. I was just wondering about that. |
| 09:47.29 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@@@@@@@@0,0@1,1@@0,0@1,1@ |
| 09:47.30 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@@@@@@@@@0,0@@0,01,1@@ |
| 09:47.30 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@@@@@@@@0,0@@@1,1@@ |
| 09:47.30 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@@@@@@@@@0,0@@1,1@@ |
| 09:47.30 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@@0,0@@@@@@@@@1,1@@ |
| 09:47.32 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@0,0@@@@@@@@@@1,1@@ |
| 09:47.36 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@0,0@1,1@0,0@1,1@@@@0,0@1,1@0,0@1,1@@ |
| 09:47.38 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@0,0@1,1@0,0@1,1@@@@0,0@1,1@0,0@1,1@@ |
| 09:47.40 | raevanmorlock | 1,1@0,0@1,1@0,0@1,1@@@@0,0@1,1@0,0@1,1@@ |
| 09:47.57 | raevanmorlock | did that just go to chat? |
| 09:48.01 | SunTiger | yes |
| 09:48.03 | raevanmorlock | stupid thing.. sorry |
| 09:48.07 | SunTiger | and don't do it again. |
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| 10:07.20 | ckknight | raevanmorlock: horsie! |
| 10:07.56 | raevanmorlock | horsie? |
| 10:09.28 | ckknight | that's what you pasted |
| 10:09.45 | ckknight | though it could be a donkey |
| 10:09.46 | raevanmorlock | I thought it was a reindeer |
| 10:10.05 | raevanmorlock | I was lookin at the nbs-irc alias commands... didn't realize they were going to paste shit to chat >_< |
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| 10:34.54 | Kaso | You know what frustates me |
| 10:35.14 | Kaso | people who use the round party portates inside square frames |
| 10:35.24 | Kaso | i'm looking at you xperl! |
| 10:36.41 | topp | zero sum... BIDDING system o_O |
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| 10:37.06 | Kaso | well those two concepts arent mutially exclusive.. ? |
| 10:37.31 | topp | umm not sure what u mean by that :P |
| 10:37.50 | Kaso | i mean, why cant a zero sum system use bidding? i see nothing wrong with that |
| 10:38.12 | topp | ah well to me it's just going againts the point of a zero sum system |
| 10:38.23 | topp | and makes it a lot more complicated than it has to be |
| 10:38.46 | Kaso | the point of a zero sum system is to keep the total sum of points zero, the price the items go for is irrelivent to that |
| 10:39.24 | topp | yes i know but a zero point system should atleast according to me have fixed prices |
| 10:39.37 | topp | meh my nick is fubared again |
| 10:40.00 | Kaso | we use a closed bidding zero sum system, with a twist on the bidding that only bids within 25% of the top bid are "valid" |
| 10:40.28 | groll | umm what point would that make? o_O |
| 10:40.34 | groll | or am i missing something? :P |
| 10:40.55 | Kaso | to allow you to headshot items if you wanna waste alot of points and not have to bother rolling against people who bid low |
| 10:42.59 | groll | hmm k |
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| 10:53.04 | foxlit | The only real point of a zero-sum system is to insert new members at the average without much trouble |
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| 12:12.20 | Kaso | Does anyone know about how to get more icons for Macros |
| 12:13.03 | Kaso | Ive made Interface/Icons and put some icons in there, but only three of them were showing |
| 12:14.38 | Kaso | Ah nm |
| 12:14.47 | Kaso | theyre in alphabetical order >.< |
| 12:16.37 | zenzelezz | anyone know if UnitIsPVP() will be true for FFA? (I'm aware that there's a separate function for FFA, this is why I ask) |
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| 12:36.11 | zenzelezz | okay, who killed the wiki |
| 12:38.03 | SunTiger | wich wiki |
| 12:38.05 | SunTiger | wowwiki |
| 12:38.09 | SunTiger | ace wiki |
| 12:38.19 | SunTiger | wikpedia ? |
| 12:40.10 | zenzelezz | wowwiki of course ;-p |
| 12:41.36 | foxlit | Hm, I don't get it |
| 12:42.14 | zenzelezz | I can connect to wowwiki, but it spends a few minutes "Waiting" and then gives up :-| |
| 12:43.50 | foxlit | Get an "action only available to the Blizzard UI" on live code on PTR, but simplistic tests seem to work just fine |
| 12:44.14 | foxlit | Any way to scrape more detail out of that thing? |
| 12:50.29 | Shirik|zZz | hm |
| 12:50.39 | Shirik|zZz | I just got this friend request on Skype... |
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| 12:51.53 | Shirik|zZz | "Hi ! Can I become your friend?Thank you ! I'm a facetious [little square unrecognized character thingy]intense,aspirant man.Come from Shenzen, China." |
| 12:51.56 | Shirik|zZz | (spacing intended) |
| 13:09.16 | foxlit | Any ideas on how I can be taininting a secureactionbutton? |
| 13:10.11 | JoshBorke | you hook it? |
| 13:10.55 | foxlit | Got PreClick, PostClick, OnLeave, OnEnter handlers |
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| 13:11.06 | foxlit | Don't touch the actual onclick :/ |
| 13:13.44 | Corrodias | DO NOT TOUCH ONCLICK OMG |
| 13:13.53 | Corrodias | you'll delete your account |
| 13:15.21 | foxlit | ... ookay. |
| 13:15.51 | foxlit | Found the line that taints it |
| 13:16.08 | Elkano | Corrodias is almost correct, actualy, it leads to aids :( |
| 13:16.09 | zenzelezz | CantTaintThis()? |
| 13:16.50 | foxlit | RAB_SecureLayoutHeader:SetAttribute("addchild", ptr); |
| 13:17.52 | JoshBorke | that wolud do it |
| 13:19.09 | foxlit | Makes no sense -- binding a secure frame to a secure header prevents me from casting anything out of the frame |
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| 13:19.34 | foxlit | And, only enough, it only breaks on PTR. |
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| 14:00.15 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.28 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
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| 14:02.06 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=91970094&postId=986112468&sid=1#15 |
| 14:03.31 | cogwheel | it's relevant to Wobin's recent message :P |
| 14:03.45 | zenzelezz | I know, that's not what I questioned |
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| 14:04.04 | cogwheel | :P |
| 14:04.06 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 14:04.27 | zenzelezz | can anyone else reach the wowwiki? |
| 14:04.57 | Wobin | oh man, cog = |
| 14:04.58 | Wobin | ( |
| 14:08.29 | cogwheel | I'm known among my family for some jaw-droppingly awful puns... |
| 14:08.31 | pastamancer | cogwheel: yes, that's bad enough to kill a thread |
| 14:09.13 | zenzelezz | you're the kind of guy that'd roll a rogue called Shiver, aren't you |
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| 14:10.14 | cogwheel | Actually, my rogue's name is Cognitowheel |
| 14:10.34 | Cairenn | LotRO is LIVE! |
| 14:10.37 | cogwheel | woot! |
| 14:11.02 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: http://www.thottbot.com/?s=shiv |
| 14:11.49 | zenzelezz | you're telling me this why? |
| 14:12.34 | cogwheel | isn't that where the pun in Shiver comes from? |
| 14:12.50 | zenzelezz | yes, but why are you telling me? I was already aware of it :-o |
| 14:13.08 | cogwheel | yes, but you were worried that it had gone over our heads, so I was reassuring you that it hadn't :P |
| 14:13.13 | Wobin | I figured you'd need two 'v's |
| 14:13.46 | zenzelezz | why? It's not ambiguous if it can't be interpreted as the action of shivering |
| 14:13.56 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
| 14:14.37 | Wobin | Nah, irony would be if it was a mace rogue |
| 14:14.50 | zenzelezz | I never said anything about irony :-) |
| 14:15.00 | Wobin | nor I, really, it was just an aside |
| 14:16.03 | Wobin | you're better off aiming for the kidneys than for over the head =P |
| 14:16.38 | cogwheel | anyway, time to become cogwheel|work |
| 14:17.13 | Wobin | Cairenn: woo, I had a look at it at a friends... What sort of modding are they offering? |
| 14:17.39 | Cairenn | at the moment, just re-skinning of existing graphics |
| 14:17.55 | Cairenn | http://www.lotrointerface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=588&postcount=5 |
| 14:17.58 | JoshBorke | ~emulate JoshBorke |
| 14:18.00 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 14:18.00 | Wobin | Do I detect a nudepack somewhere along the line? =P |
| 14:18.28 | Cairenn | ~emulate Cairenn |
| 14:18.30 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 14:18.33 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 14:18.35 | purl | ACTION hugs JoshBorke |
| 14:18.35 | Wobin | =( I read that url as "LOLrointerface" |
| 14:19.30 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:19.48 | Wobin | I don't know if I could seriously play the game if I couldn't at least have the illusion of being able to alter it =) |
| 14:19.53 | Wobin | Wow has spoiled me for that =P |
| 14:20.45 | Cairenn | The UI needs work, I won't disagree with that |
| 14:21.10 | Wobin | I hear the movewithmouse isn't as responsive as using the keys? |
| 14:21.20 | Cairenn | but personally, and being such a huge Tolkien geek, I'm loving the game |
| 14:21.25 | Wobin | ^^ |
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| 14:22.17 | Cairenn | afk a few |
| 14:23.04 | Wobin | I'll have to admit, it's one game I could more seriously get into the lore about |
| 14:23.14 | Wobin | I never knew much about WoW lore so it never really impacted me |
| 14:23.27 | Osagasu | I am too. |
| 14:23.43 | Osagasu | I should be getting my preorder key today... |
| 14:23.53 | zenzelezz | I'm the other way around... I'm too fond of the lore Tolkien wrote that I'd be pissed if they messed with it |
| 14:24.05 | Osagasu | They've done a REALLY good job of it. |
| 14:25.02 | Wobin | It's not the sort of thing you'd want to get wrong |
| 14:25.05 | Wobin | not even by a bit |
| 14:25.07 | pastamancer | I hope so. I'm still bitter about SWG. |
| 14:25.12 | zenzelezz | doesn't matter (to me), all it'd take is one small mistake and I'd leave it |
| 14:25.14 | Wobin | You'd get mobbed by tolkien geeks |
| 14:25.21 | zenzelezz | but I'm not saying it's a bad game, just one I won't play |
| 14:25.30 | Osagasu | It feels to me like they purposely keep you just a step removed from the events of the book so as to give you the feeling of being a part of it, but not close enough for them to be able to screw up any of the important happenings. |
| 14:28.48 | Wobin | It's a delicate balance |
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| 15:47.01 | cogwheel|work | WTB 180μF capacitor... pst |
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| 15:48.03 | Thumann | hi, is there a way to block all whispers from all level 1 characters? |
| 15:48.29 | cogwheel|work | if you're trying to prevent gold spam, I'd suggest using SpamSentry. |
| 15:48.35 | nevcairiel | in theory, it needs a who requst tho. |
| 15:48.59 | Thumann | as in, it will be to slow |
| 15:49.17 | Thumann | but that's exactly what i'm trying to prevent :) damn gold spammers |
| 15:49.19 | cogwheel|work | I'm pretty sure spamsentry does *not* use level |
| 15:49.33 | nevcairiel | i think it filters on a word list yea |
| 15:50.05 | Thumann | okay |
| 15:50.09 | Thumann | i'll check it out :) |
| 15:50.23 | cogwheel|work | it also gives you a really easy way to report them :) |
| 15:50.38 | nevcairiel | pre-formated GM Petition? :D |
| 15:50.44 | cogwheel|work | yep |
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| 15:58.25 | foxlit | Anyone on the PTR at the moment? |
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| 16:13.28 | Davey2 | wowwiki down ? |
| 16:13.45 | foxlit | Hm, some of my code seems to be tainting :SetAttribute("addchild") on PTR :/ |
| 16:14.09 | nevcairiel | tainting setattribute? thats hard |
| 16:14.40 | foxlit | Nevertheless. |
| 16:14.53 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: it would appear so |
| 16:14.53 | Gryphen | wiki down, yes |
| 16:16.30 | Davey2 | bugger |
| 16:16.38 | Davey2 | no reference to help me lol |
| 16:16.59 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/16581 |
| 16:17.21 | foxlit | Run it together with my addon, and it'll only work if bindToHeader is false. Run it without, and it works in both cases |
| 16:17.42 | foxlit | (PTR only) |
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| 16:25.40 | Davey2 | hmm cant get this damn SetText |
| 16:25.48 | Davey2 | to work |
| 16:25.52 | Davey2 | bugging me now |
| 16:27.30 | Davey2 | it might not be a naming convention thing |
| 16:27.30 | foxlit | Link some code |
| 16:27.51 | Shirik | foxlit: PTR is borked |
| 16:28.05 | foxlit | Better yet, zip up the whole thing and upload it somewhere |
| 16:28.07 | Shirik | It used to be all secure functionality was tainted |
| 16:28.16 | Davey2 | http://wowi.pastey.net/16596 XML |
| 16:28.19 | Shirik | They fixed half of it but from what I hear, there are still parts having issues |
| 16:28.42 | Davey2 | http://wowi.pastey.net/16597 LUA |
| 16:28.42 | foxlit | I may just be one of those people |
| 16:28.53 | foxlit | It doesn't make any sense, though. |
| 16:29.19 | Davey2 | why need to upload it fox? |
| 16:29.19 | foxlit | If I remove inherits="SecureStateHeaderTemplate" from one of my <Frame> declarations in XML, everything works fine. |
| 16:29.30 | foxlit | So that I can run it with minimal hustle |
| 16:29.39 | Shirik | foxlit: The earlier problem was a typo in SecureFrame.lua which was tainting their own code |
| 16:29.40 | Davey2 | k |
| 16:29.46 | Davey2 | moment.. |
| 16:29.48 | Shirik | I imagine something similar for the other issues |
| 16:30.09 | Shirik | (again, this is only what I'm told) |
| 16:30.13 | foxlit | Do they know of it? :) |
| 16:30.19 | Shirik | I hope so :P |
| 16:30.53 | foxlit | Because the UI forums are sort of silent |
| 16:31.00 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: you can't SetText a plain old frame |
| 16:31.36 | Davey2 | http://www.dgane.com/BGStats.zip |
| 16:31.39 | cogwheel|work | e.g., the myTabPage1 |
| 16:32.02 | Davey2 | oh. |
| 16:32.09 | Davey2 | well i though i would just test it anyway |
| 16:32.12 | Davey2 | neither worked, so.. |
| 16:32.34 | Davey2 | still havent solved the problem either way lol |
| 16:36.23 | AnduinLothar | wowwiki dead? |
| 16:36.34 | zenzelezz | I've been unable to reach it all day |
| 16:37.03 | cogwheel|work | [09:14]<Davey2>wowwiki down ? |
| 16:37.10 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 16:37.13 | zenzelezz | I asked at least two times before he did |
| 16:37.15 | foxlit | Davey2: you're trying to change the text appearing inside the frame, or on the tabs? |
| 16:37.18 | zenzelezz | but no-one replies |
| 16:37.20 | zenzelezz | *replied |
| 16:38.05 | Davey2 | fox |
| 16:38.08 | Davey2 | inside the frame |
| 16:38.10 | Davey2 | sorry |
| 16:39.58 | Davey2 | only just saw your msg |
| 16:39.58 | foxlit | ~moo |
| 16:40.18 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 16:40.18 | foxlit | Davey2: /script myTabContainerFrameTab1Text:SetText("Moo"); asdfasdf1:SetText("Inside\nThe\nFrame."); |
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| 16:40.28 | Davey2 | ah. it worked |
| 16:41.01 | Davey2 | but that's what i did in BGStats.lua |
| 16:41.09 | Davey2 | asdfasdf1:SetText(); |
| 16:41.14 | foxlit | That works too |
| 16:41.27 | Davey2 | script side not working for me |
| 16:41.35 | foxlit | Ah, okay, It doesn't quite |
| 16:41.44 | Davey2 | it just retains the old values originally set |
| 16:42.03 | Davey2 | but that command worked perfectly |
| 16:43.04 | foxlit | Rule 1: there is no magic. |
| 16:43.11 | Davey2 | lol |
| 16:43.32 | foxlit | Your :SetText() never runs |
| 16:43.47 | Davey2 | okay |
| 16:43.55 | Davey2 | that sounds about right then |
| 16:44.47 | foxlit | >>> return "I'm still working" |
| 16:44.48 | Cide | foxlit: "I'm still working" |
| 16:44.53 | foxlit | >>> return "2" == 2 |
| 16:44.54 | Cide | foxlit: false |
| 16:45.12 | Shirik | One of the fun things about lua :D |
| 16:45.15 | Shirik | "2" != 2 |
| 16:45.26 | foxlit | Davey2: you're comparing IDs to strings. IDs are inherently integer values, so when you compare them with strings, you always get false |
| 16:45.27 | Davey2 | LOL.. |
| 16:45.33 | Shirik | strange thing is though, you aren't allowed to do this: |
| 16:45.35 | Davey2 | whoopsie |
| 16:45.37 | Shirik | >>> "1" < 2 |
| 16:45.37 | Cide | Shirik: [string "return "1" < 2"]:1: attempt to compare string with number |
| 16:45.43 | Shirik | I never understood that :/ |
| 16:45.48 | Davey2 | >>> 2 == 2 |
| 16:45.48 | Cide | Davey2: true |
| 16:45.55 | Davey2 | trait from PHP |
| 16:46.44 | Shirik | If you're going to allow comparing the string "2" to the number 2, why wouldn't you allow all comparisons? |
| 16:46.45 | pastamancer | == isn't inherently numeric |
| 16:46.50 | zenzelezz | equality is easy enough |
| 16:46.52 | Davey2 | that'd explain why putting an AddMessage before the first IF check worked |
| 16:46.53 | Davey2 | lol |
| 16:46.55 | pastamancer | it's more of an identity operator |
| 16:47.07 | pastamancer | as opposed to arithmetic equality |
| 16:47.13 | pastamancer | you cant say something like this: |
| 16:47.25 | pastamancer | >>> t = {}; v = {}; return t > v |
| 16:47.25 | Cide | pastamancer: [string "t = {}; v = {}; return t > v"]:1: attempt to compare two table values |
| 16:47.31 | pastamancer | that makes no sense |
| 16:47.38 | pastamancer | but you can do this: |
| 16:47.42 | pastamancer | >>> t = {}; v = {}; return t == v |
| 16:47.42 | Cide | pastamancer: false |
| 16:47.56 | nevcairiel | someone should overload the > operator to do comparison on #table |
| 16:48.04 | pastamancer | that's a horrible idea |
| 16:48.05 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Already working on it ;) |
| 16:48.26 | pastamancer | I don't want my lua to look like C++ |
| 16:48.30 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:48.42 | Shirik | >>> t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__lt = function(op1, op2) return #op1 < #op2}; setmetatable(t, mtbl); setmetatable(v, mtbl); return t< v; |
| 16:48.43 | Cide | Shirik: [string "t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__lt = function(op1, op2) return #..."]:1: 'end' expected near '}' |
| 16:48.45 | Shirik | T_T |
| 16:48.56 | Shirik | >>> t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__lt = function(op1, op2) return #op1 < #op2 end }; setmetatable(t, mtbl); setmetatable(v, mtbl); return t< v; |
| 16:48.56 | Cide | Shirik: true |
| 16:48.57 | Shirik | win :D |
| 16:49.00 | Davey2 | how to stop your GUI from moving out of the screen resolution? |
| 16:49.04 | Davey2 | lol |
| 16:49.13 | foxlit | <Frame clampToScreen="true" |
| 16:49.19 | Davey2 | thank you :) |
| 16:49.48 | pastamancer | Shirik: no type checking? you could do "foo" < {} with your code |
| 16:49.56 | Shirik | I think that's valid |
| 16:50.06 | Shirik | >>> t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__lt = function(op1, op2) return #op1 < #op2 end }; setmetatable(t, mtbl); setmetatable(v, mtbl); return "f" < v; |
| 16:50.06 | Cide | Shirik: [string "t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__lt = functio..."]:1: attempt to compare string with table |
| 16:50.10 | Shirik | hrm |
| 16:50.14 | pastamancer | ah |
| 16:50.16 | Shirik | >>> #"f" |
| 16:50.16 | Cide | Shirik: 1 |
| 16:50.22 | Shirik | that's... odd |
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| 16:50.28 | Shirik | >>> t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__lt = function(op1, op2) return #op1 < #op2 end }; setmetatable(t, mtbl); setmetatable(v, mtbl); return v < "f"; |
| 16:50.28 | Cide | Shirik: [string "t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__lt = functio..."]:1: attempt to compare table with string |
| 16:50.35 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:50.47 | pastamancer | lua type-checks it before asking the metatable |
| 16:51.01 | pastamancer | neat |
| 16:51.06 | pastamancer | well, more curious than neat |
| 16:51.21 | Davey2 | fox does the position in the tag make a difference |
| 16:51.29 | foxlit | not at all |
| 16:51.32 | Shirik | hm, I thought if one of the operands had a metamethod to handle it, it would use it, regardless of the parameter |
| 16:51.35 | Davey2 | i tried it in the frame and that didn't work |
| 16:51.48 | Shirik | s/the para/the other para/ |
| 16:51.49 | Davey2 | in the main frame; myTabContainerFrame |
| 16:53.25 | pastamancer | operator overloading is evil! |
| 16:53.35 | Shirik | I could be worse... |
| 16:53.38 | Shirik | I could like |
| 16:53.42 | Shirik | use * to do a comparison |
| 16:53.59 | Shirik | >>> t = {1}; v = {1, 3}; mtbl = {__mul = function(op1, op2) return #op1 < #op2 end }; setmetatable(t, mtbl); setmetatable(v, mtbl); return t * v; |
| 16:53.59 | Cide | Shirik: true |
| 16:54.23 | Shirik | but then clad|work would kill me |
| 16:55.04 | pastamancer | as would anyone that's had to suffer through bad C++ code |
| 16:55.35 | Shirik | ~comfort pastamancer |
| 16:55.45 | purl | There, there, pastamancer. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:55.45 | Shirik | fwiw, I rarely overload operators |
| 17:01.53 | Davey2 | fox, nvm sorry bud |
| 17:02.00 | Davey2 | must have typoed it works now |
| 17:02.01 | Davey2 | lol |
| 17:03.13 | Davey2 | but now im at the point of the addon where i need wowwiki. so now its game over |
| 17:03.14 | Davey2 | lol |
| 17:03.15 | Shirik | Davey2: If it makes you feel any better, I just fixed my roommate's program which he's been pissed off at for the last 3 days. |
| 17:03.22 | Shirik | He couldn't find the problem. |
| 17:03.35 | Shirik | After looking at it for about 2 minutes today, I solved the problem by deleting one character |
| 17:03.35 | Cide | Davey2: what do you need from wowwiki? |
| 17:03.40 | Davey2 | ahha.. the countless times i have experienced that in PHP. |
| 17:04.02 | Davey2 | Cide basically everything about Battleground information |
| 17:04.03 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 17:04.06 | nevcairiel | those errors.. |
| 17:04.16 | Cide | you could probably find most of that in blizzard's code (or other BG addons) |
| 17:04.18 | Davey2 | everything you get on the end of a BG |
| 17:04.31 | Davey2 | mm didnt think about blizzard code |
| 17:04.52 | Shirik | >>> 7^2-3*7+6 |
| 17:04.52 | Cide | Shirik: 34 |
| 17:05.54 | Davey2 | am not too sure how the Bg stuff works. in respect of which game you have just come out of |
| 17:05.55 | foxlit | Can you somehow overload operator precendence? |
| 17:06.18 | Fin | parens? :P |
| 17:06.22 | Shirik | foxlit: Negative |
| 17:06.27 | Shirik | well |
| 17:06.31 | Shirik | yes, parens >< |
| 17:06.37 | Davey2 | example. if im just looking at Bgstats->honorable kills, how might i know it was a WSG or a AV |
| 17:06.38 | Shirik | somehow I don't think that's what he meant |
| 17:06.56 | foxlit | parens is a palm pilot claculator program |
| 17:07.06 | Shirik | ah I had that! |
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| 17:07.53 | Shirik | I love this homework.... |
| 17:08.08 | foxlit | As for parenthesis, they're boring in this context - if you can overload operators, it would've been fun to change their precendence as well. |
| 17:08.15 | Davey2 | hang on. how do i get 'blizzard code', Cide? |
| 17:08.17 | Shirik | in the chapter, it says "No generic method for finding a hamiltonian circuit is yet known" |
| 17:08.24 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 17:08.26 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 17:08.28 | Shirik | It proceeds to say "Find the hamiltonian circuit for the following graph" |
| 17:08.50 | foxlit | You may be able to do it on small graphs without using any specific methods |
| 17:08.53 | Shirik | ~winmpq |
| 17:09.03 | Shirik | boo, I liked winmpq :( |
| 17:09.38 | Shirik | foxlit: I guess, I just find it evil that they would do that :( |
| 17:10.12 | foxlit | They tend to give you nice graphs to compensate |
| 17:12.13 | Davey2 | its not got BG stuff |
| 17:12.28 | Davey2 | BattlefieldMinimap is probably the nearest thing |
| 17:15.59 | foxlit | Once again, there is no magic. |
| 17:16.11 | foxlit | If there's a frame in WoW, there's got to be code somewhere describing it. |
| 17:16.11 | Davey2 | o.o |
| 17:16.23 | Davey2 | that's what i thought. |
| 17:16.53 | Davey2 | am i looking in the MPQ files then? |
| 17:17.08 | Davey2 | cos it was not in that interface addon kit |
| 17:17.10 | foxlit | Stuff extracted by the addon kit should be the complete UI |
| 17:17.25 | Davey2 | am after the end screen battleground i think. lol |
| 17:18.50 | Davey2 | ah |
| 17:18.58 | Davey2 | nvm |
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| 17:19.34 | foxlit | Found it? |
| 17:20.32 | Davey2 | found out its all in \Interface not \AddOns |
| 17:20.33 | Davey2 | lol |
| 17:22.48 | Davey2 | thanks for the addon pack :) didnt know about that |
| 17:23.19 | Shirik | ~wdn |
| 17:23.21 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 17:23.26 | Shirik | also helpful ;) |
| 17:24.40 | Davey2 | neat. like a CVS :) |
| 17:25.06 | Davey2 | good if they nerf the default UI i suppose lol |
| 17:28.26 | Shirik | SVN > CVS |
| 17:28.27 | Shirik | but yes |
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| 17:30.28 | Davey2 | hmm even in \Interface |
| 17:30.28 | Davey2 | cant seem to find the GUI for end of battleground stats |
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| 17:33.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:34.01 | cogwheel|work | it might be one of the blizzard addons |
| 17:34.45 | ckknight | 7:34 AM for me |
| 17:34.50 | ckknight | I normally get up at 9 |
| 17:34.52 | Davey2 | its not in \AddOns or \Interface from what i've seen |
| 17:35.02 | ckknight | something woke me up, and in a haze, I took my shower like I normally do |
| 17:35.04 | Hallu | is SVN subversion? |
| 17:35.05 | Cide | it is |
| 17:35.08 | Cide | Hallu: yes |
| 17:35.13 | Hallu | kk |
| 17:35.19 | Hallu | never used it, but I know it's better |
| 17:35.27 | Davey2 | er, \AddOns or \FrameXML |
| 17:35.45 | Cide | it's under \FrameXML |
| 17:36.01 | Davey2 | which file? lol |
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| 17:36.16 | cogwheel|work | battlefieldfarem, perhaps? |
| 17:36.17 | Davey2 | just over 200 to check through lol |
| 17:36.24 | cogwheel|work | s/farem/frame/ |
| 17:36.50 | Davey2 | isn't that for the queue? |
| 17:36.57 | Davey2 | like queuing to join the Bg |
| 17:37.26 | Davey2 | i skimmed through that first |
| 17:37.47 | cogwheel|work | PVPFrame, maybe? |
| 17:37.58 | Davey2 | thats one i didnt check |
| 17:38.08 | Davey2 | but it caught my eye. will check brb |
| 17:39.16 | ckknight | AlwaysUpWorldFrame? |
| 17:39.23 | ckknight | or something |
| 17:39.48 | pastamancer | I thought AlwaysUp was the pvp objectives |
| 17:39.58 | Shirik | correct |
| 17:40.19 | Shirik | ummm |
| 17:40.26 | Shirik | sspvp modifies the score frame |
| 17:40.30 | Davey2 | pvpframe for the honor updates and arena stats and stuff. |
| 17:41.03 | Shirik | Awesome! |
| 17:41.17 | Davey2 | alwaysupworldframe ? |
| 17:41.42 | Shirik | "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed this program." "Name: Windows. Publisher: Microsoft Corporation. Close Message... Data Execution Prevention helps protect against damage from viruses and other security threats. What should I do?" |
| 17:41.47 | Shirik | Best message I've seen ever. |
| 17:42.25 | Davey2 | lol |
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| 17:44.23 | raevanmorlock | Haha.. nice quote, Cairenn |
| 17:45.17 | Shirik | wtf?! |
| 17:45.21 | Shirik | When did I say that? |
| 17:45.24 | ckknight | Shirik: ? |
| 17:45.25 | Shirik | omg I remember -_- |
| 17:45.32 | Shirik | 13:45:11 » topic: #wowi-lounge: Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net | New Toc: 20100 | RTFPN please. | I had a lot of choices, I think I should have gone with "furry" - Shirik |
| 17:45.32 | Shirik | 13:45:11 » set by Cairenn on 23/04/2007 - 17:00:36 ‹20h 44m ago› |
| 17:45.52 | raevanmorlock | duh! |
| 17:46.08 | Shirik | out-of-context quotes -_- You win this time Cairenn!! |
| 17:46.13 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 17:46.38 | Shirik | btw regarding DEP, here's the message I got for those curious: http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=depjh0.png |
| 17:46.42 | Shirik | anyway, class time, take care |
| 17:46.54 | Cairenn | later |
| 17:47.27 | raevanmorlock | later |
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| 17:48.20 | raevanmorlock | Shirik! |
| 17:49.46 | Davey2 | nickserv stuff? |
| 17:50.06 | raevanmorlock | There's options to automatically identify yourself |
| 17:51.14 | Davey2 | wouldn't that be through mirc itself? |
| 17:51.31 | raevanmorlock | mirc doesn't do it automatically |
| 17:51.40 | Davey2 | no, you have to auto command it |
| 17:51.53 | raevanmorlock | meh? |
| 17:51.55 | Davey2 | is that what you're trying to do? |
| 17:51.59 | Davey2 | auto id? |
| 17:52.08 | Davey2 | lol |
| 17:52.27 | raevanmorlock | Well Shirik made me install this nbs-irc thing for mirc the other day |
| 17:52.37 | raevanmorlock | and it has a control panel thing |
| 17:52.45 | Davey2 | o.O |
| 17:52.49 | raevanmorlock | and one of them is a Nickserv thing that opens up a window where you can set your username and password |
| 17:53.01 | raevanmorlock | for a network.. but I don't understand what teh network should be entered as |
| 17:53.02 | raevanmorlock | it's weird |
| 17:53.16 | raevanmorlock | cause it says name.. not like url or whatever |
| 17:53.19 | raevanmorlock | network name |
| 17:53.23 | Davey2 | network name is freenode |
| 17:53.30 | Davey2 | /say $network |
| 17:53.35 | raevanmorlock | $network |
| 17:53.36 | Davey2 | er |
| 17:53.38 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 17:53.39 | Davey2 | //say $network |
| 17:53.42 | raevanmorlock | freenode |
| 17:53.46 | raevanmorlock | ah neat |
| 17:53.57 | raevanmorlock | I did Freenode.. maybe that's why |
| 17:54.00 | Davey2 | its for linked servers under a hub |
| 17:54.09 | Davey2 | the network is what groups them |
| 17:54.41 | Davey2 | i am guessing freenode has more than one server 'linked' together |
| 17:54.55 | Davey2 | yup.. it does. has about 15 lol |
| 17:55.34 | raevanmorlock | now I wonder how I test this.. |
| 17:55.40 | Davey2 | lol |
| 17:55.50 | raevanmorlock | nope that didn't work |
| 17:55.51 | Davey2 | yay/nay? |
| 17:55.55 | cogwheel|work | haha |
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| 17:56.03 | raevanmorlock | the whois doesn't say I'm identified |
| 17:56.14 | Davey2 | not sure if this network's services has an unidentify command |
| 17:56.20 | cogwheel|work | I IM'ed my boss a link to that screenshot of Shirik's error for his amusement and he thought he was actually getting that error ... |
| 17:56.51 | Davey2 | lol |
| 17:57.05 | Davey2 | say |
| 17:57.19 | Davey2 | if i use GetBattlefieldWinner() |
| 17:57.33 | Davey2 | in any script besides the battlefield score GUI |
| 17:57.50 | raevanmorlock | Shirik's error? WhaT? |
| 17:57.53 | Davey2 | would it get the value of the winner of the battlefield? |
| 17:58.07 | raevanmorlock | I think I need to wake up more |
| 17:59.06 | raevanmorlock | Who asked you! |
| 17:59.33 | Davey2 | what i mean is, using GetBattlefieldWinner in any script, would it recall the winner of the battlefield when i need it? |
| 17:59.34 | cogwheel|work | Tuna fish |
| 17:59.50 | Davey2 | or only at the time i've won a BG? |
| 18:00.07 | cogwheel|work | probably only when you're still inside a finished BG |
| 18:00.10 | raevanmorlock | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldWinner |
| 18:00.13 | raevanmorlock | read it! |
| 18:00.22 | Davey2 | w00t wowwiki is back up |
| 18:00.34 | raevanmorlock | wowwiki is your god! |
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| 18:00.50 | Davey2 | it was down a while ago |
| 18:00.52 | cogwheel|work | heh. apparently you weren't on when it was down this am |
| 18:01.13 | raevanmorlock | Me? I just woke up! |
| 18:01.24 | Davey2 | damn cogwheel. so how would i get to add it as a Win? |
| 18:01.47 | raevanmorlock | maybe there's an event to help detect it |
| 18:02.04 | cogwheel|work | There has to be an event when the battle ends |
| 18:02.43 | raevanmorlock | UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_STATUS |
| 18:02.59 | raevanmorlock | Fired whenever joining a queue, leaving a queue, battlefield to join is changed, when you can join a battlefield, or if somebody wins the battleground. |
| 18:03.33 | raevanmorlock | That's oddly unspecific, eh? |
| 18:04.10 | foxlit | Basically, everything the PvP icon on the minimap has to handle |
| 18:04.35 | raevanmorlock | But how would you know which of those events happened? |
| 18:04.57 | foxlit | You don't |
| 18:05.07 | foxlit | You just update everything involved |
| 18:05.32 | raevanmorlock | well that's a somovabitch |
| 18:05.57 | ckknight | oh, get Glory-2.0 |
| 18:06.04 | ckknight | PVP events are teh suck |
| 18:06.10 | ckknight | thus Glory-2.0 was written |
| 18:06.33 | foxlit | eep? |
| 18:07.14 | raevanmorlock | meep! |
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| 18:07.37 | foxlit | Don't really see a problem with those events :) |
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| 18:08.10 | raevanmorlock | They'd be a pain to test for too, I'd imagine |
| 18:08.25 | foxlit | AV is <3 for addon testing |
| 18:08.33 | raevanmorlock | AV? |
| 18:08.52 | raevanmorlock | AudioVisual? |
| 18:09.12 | foxlit | alterac valley |
| 18:09.19 | raevanmorlock | ooh |
| 18:11.03 | raevanmorlock | Finals Week sucks.. I don't want to do projects >_< |
| 18:13.27 | foxlit | Exams may 3 - may 17 |
| 18:14.09 | raevanmorlock | I have two games due Thursday (one of which I haven't started yet), plus 2 exams that are supposedly gonna take 1-2 hours each |
| 18:14.46 | foxlit | Submit FrameXML\TicTacToe.xml |
| 18:15.03 | raevanmorlock | XML files aren't interactive |
| 18:15.22 | raevanmorlock | Plus, one game has to be written in C++ using Allegro and the other has to be in DarkBasic Pro |
| 18:15.23 | foxlit | Make your prof buy wow and run it! |
| 18:15.33 | Shirik|Ecole | lol |
| 18:15.39 | Shirik|Ecole | Use Microsimon :D |
| 18:15.53 | raevanmorlock | Shirik|Ecole: Why are you on twice? |
| 18:15.59 | raevanmorlock | And the Shriik thing the other day |
| 18:16.01 | Elkano | + TicTacToe sucks... written a bot you wont win against :P |
| 18:16.01 | raevanmorlock | You're so confusing |
| 18:16.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Because I'm AFK from one |
| 18:16.13 | Shirik|Ecole | Elkano: So have I :D |
| 18:16.21 | foxlit | Don't even need to write a bot. |
| 18:16.33 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 18:16.38 | Shirik|Ecole | Just make it a two player game? |
| 18:16.45 | raevanmorlock | You guys are missing the point |
| 18:16.47 | foxlit | The field is so small I can give you an optimal strategy off the top of my head |
| 18:16.53 | raevanmorlock | WoW addons do not a game make |
| 18:16.54 | Elkano | still sucks :) write Reversi |
| 18:17.07 | foxlit | But hey, for bonus point, write a connect 5 bot for an unlimited board and have it play against itself |
| 18:17.20 | raevanmorlock | ... I don't know why I come here. Really.. |
| 18:17.34 | foxlit | Define a game |
| 18:17.54 | Elkano | foxlit, if it's good it will score a draw ;) |
| 18:18.00 | Elkano | if it's bad, too |
| 18:18.00 | Shirik|Ecole | Write a program to play tic tac toe against itself so the computer learns that the only winning move in thermonuclear war is not to play |
| 18:18.25 | Shirik|Ecole | (anyone know what movie that's from?) |
| 18:18.36 | raevanmorlock | There is a fairly easy way to win Tic Tac Toe |
| 18:18.43 | Elkano | too easy: Wargames |
| 18:18.46 | Shirik|Ecole | Sure, if the other guy's a moron |
| 18:18.52 | Shirik|Ecole | Elkano, good man :) I was getting scared for a second |
| 18:19.13 | foxlit | Do healer channels always degenerate into boobs-talk? |
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| 18:19.34 | Elkano | don't know, but got tits? |
| 18:19.44 | raevanmorlock | Take a corner, let him take another other than the opposiing corner or mid, take the opposiing corner, he'll block mid, take whichever corner has 2 free spots next to it, and he can only block one, and you win |
| 18:20.16 | pastamancer | foxlit: beer talk in my experience |
| 18:20.16 | Shirik|Ecole | raevanmorlock: What if he doesn't follow your plan? |
| 18:20.26 | raevanmorlock | then you can playing draws until he does |
| 18:20.36 | Shirik|Ecole | Again, the only winning move is not to play. |
| 18:20.37 | Elkano | raevanmorlock, proble is that a clever player will take the opposing corner |
| 18:20.41 | Davey2 | you can use for negative truth in Lua can't you? |
| 18:20.42 | Davey2 | like |
| 18:20.47 | Davey2 | if ( !value ) then |
| 18:21.10 | Shirik|Ecole | ~ |
| 18:21.10 | raevanmorlock | if not value then |
| 18:21.34 | pastamancer | >>> !true |
| 18:21.34 | Cide | pastamancer: [string "!true"]:1: unexpected symbol near '!' |
| 18:21.34 | foxlit | >>> ~true |
| 18:21.34 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> ~true |
| 18:21.34 | Cide | foxlit: [string "~true"]:1: unexpected symbol near '~' |
| 18:21.35 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: [string "~true"]:1: unexpected symbol near '~' |
| 18:21.35 | pastamancer | >>> return not true |
| 18:21.35 | Cide | pastamancer: false |
| 18:21.35 | raevanmorlock | or if value ~= <whatever> |
| 18:21.37 | Shirik|Ecole | ... |
| 18:21.37 | foxlit | There's no ~(boolean) operator |
| 18:21.39 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> return ~true |
| 18:21.39 | Cide | Shirik|Ecole: [string "return ~true"]:1: unexpected symbol near '~' |
| 18:21.39 | Shirik|Ecole | ?! |
| 18:21.39 | foxlit | Use not |
| 18:21.39 | Shirik|Ecole | hmph |
| 18:21.39 | Davey2 | if ( not value ) then |
| 18:21.39 | Davey2 | ? |
| 18:21.39 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 18:21.39 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah, not :P |
| 18:21.40 | raevanmorlock | yes |
| 18:21.40 | Davey2 | kay, thanks |
| 18:21.40 | Elkano | >>> return true ~= true |
| 18:21.40 | Cide | Elkano: false |
| 18:21.41 | Shirik|Ecole | I give up Lua for the rest of the year |
| 18:21.41 | Elkano | >>> return true ~= false |
| 18:21.42 | Cide | Elkano: true |
| 18:21.47 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm confusing too many languages |
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| 18:22.10 | raevanmorlock | So Shirik, how do I get the Nickserv stuff to work on nbs-irc? |
| 18:22.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I just do /ns identify |
| 18:22.30 | Shirik|Ecole | but it should be somewhere in the control panel |
| 18:22.34 | raevanmorlock | everytime? |
| 18:22.50 | Shirik|Ecole | look under control panel->nickserv |
| 18:22.57 | Shirik|Ecole | but yes, I do, because I'm too lazy to set it up |
| 18:22.58 | raevanmorlock | I entered the network as freenode and did my nick and password, b ut it doesn't do it automatically for me |
| 18:23.21 | Shirik|Ecole | did you fill out the portion at the bottom? |
| 18:23.25 | Arrowmaster | what client? |
| 18:23.34 | Shirik|Ecole | Arrowmaster: nbs-irc running through mirc |
| 18:23.39 | raevanmorlock | Identify with: nickserv identify and the two boxes are checked |
| 18:23.59 | Shirik|Ecole | raevanmorlock: What did you name it? |
| 18:24.09 | raevanmorlock | name what? |
| 18:24.14 | Shirik|Ecole | the network |
| 18:24.20 | raevanmorlock | I named it freenode |
| 18:24.25 | Shirik|Ecole | try freenode.net |
| 18:24.26 | foxlit | Did you know that when you type your password in IRC, it appears as ******* to other users? |
| 18:24.35 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit: Stop being evil |
| 18:24.47 | Cide | you mean, if I type ha8430e1 it comes out as stars for you? |
| 18:24.53 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 18:24.55 | Shirik|Ecole | omg, it worked!! |
| 18:24.59 | Shirik|Ecole | let me try |
| 18:25.04 | Cide | really? it shows up as ha8430e1 for me |
| 18:25.06 | foxlit | Yeah, if you type ha8430e1 appears as ******** to me |
| 18:25.07 | raevanmorlock | ********** |
| 18:25.14 | raevanmorlock | neat! |
| 18:25.33 | Cide | how did you know that my password was ha8430e1 if it only shows up as stars??? |
| 18:25.38 | raevanmorlock | Nope, it doesn't do it |
| 18:25.46 | raevanmorlock | That's the joke, Cide |
| 18:25.55 | Shirik|Ecole | raevanmorlock: No, Cide's following along the Bash quote |
| 18:25.57 | Shirik|Ecole | precisely |
| 18:25.57 | Cide | oh, I visit bash.org too :) |
| 18:25.57 | Arrowmaster | this joke is too old |
| 18:26.06 | Shirik|Ecole | foxlit will now proceed to say that he copyed and pasted the stars |
| 18:26.07 | foxlit | It's too awesome! |
| 18:26.09 | raevanmorlock | lol |
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| 18:26.50 | raevanmorlock | You guys are hilarious |
| 18:27.00 | raevanmorlock | And nbs-irc is poo! |
| 18:27.10 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 18:27.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I think you're just too lazy to use it :P |
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| 18:27.42 | raevanmorlock | Lazy? It's supposed to make things easier |
| 18:27.47 | Shirik|Ecole | it does |
| 18:27.52 | raevanmorlock | lies! |
| 18:27.54 | Shirik|Ecole | I type /ns instead of /msg nickserv |
| 18:27.56 | thrae|ppc | ugh, doctor is running behind |
| 18:28.01 | Shirik|Ecole | and I get the little popups |
| 18:28.07 | Shirik|Ecole | those are my favorite feature |
| 18:28.08 | raevanmorlock | lol -- doing it automatically would be easier |
| 18:28.15 | raevanmorlock | what popups? |
| 18:28.18 | Shirik|Ecole | you can do it automatically if you do it right |
| 18:28.21 | Shirik|Ecole | say my name I'll show you |
| 18:28.24 | raevanmorlock | oh those |
| 18:28.28 | raevanmorlock | yes.. those are neat |
| 18:28.42 | raevanmorlock | I forgot about them--I guess I can't uninstall it now |
| 18:28.58 | Shirik|Ecole | sure you can |
| 18:29.06 | thrae|ppc | irc on my cell phone ppc |
| 18:29.32 | raevanmorlock | I just have to figure out how it does the one or two things that I like.. duplicate them.. and then uninstall it |
| 18:29.43 | Shirik|Ecole | Learn to write scripts :) |
| 18:29.51 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't really use nbsirc anymore, I've modified it so much |
| 18:29.52 | raevanmorlock | I tried once.. mIRC script is a bitch |
| 18:29.58 | Shirik|Ecole | not...really... |
| 18:30.03 | raevanmorlock | yes it is, damn you! |
| 18:30.25 | raevanmorlock | if (l isin $1-) var %labels = 1 like.. what the heck? |
| 18:30.40 | raevanmorlock | LUA is the best script ever |
| 18:30.52 | foxlit | But does it run on linux? |
| 18:31.01 | raevanmorlock | I don't use linux |
| 18:31.12 | Arrowmaster | i know people who have used mirc on linux |
| 18:31.18 | Arrowmaster | was inside of wine though |
| 18:31.38 | Shirik|Ecole | lol... why? |
| 18:32.25 | raevanmorlock | So.. who wants to do my finals for me? |
| 18:32.32 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry, taking one right now |
| 18:33.29 | raevanmorlock | One? Bah! I have four due Thursday |
| 18:33.34 | Davey2 | okay so far this script is going cool |
| 18:33.39 | Davey2 | thanks to you guys help :) |
| 18:34.17 | raevanmorlock | And they're for only 2 classes... I mean.. what kinda messed up teacher assigns both a final project and a final exam? The spawn of Satan--that's who! |
| 18:34.27 | raevanmorlock | (It's the same teacher for both classes) |
| 18:35.52 | raevanmorlock | Gabe is my hero: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/04/23#1177379340 |
| 18:35.56 | Shirik|Ecole | raevanmorlock: How do you have a final "due" ? |
| 18:36.22 | raevanmorlock | Well... the projects and exams are submitted online |
| 18:36.32 | Shirik|Ecole | so you can take it whenever you want? |
| 18:36.34 | Shirik|Ecole | You're lucky.... |
| 18:36.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I have a final at 8PM Saturday night |
| 18:36.47 | Shirik|Ecole | Only time. I don't go, I get a zero. |
| 18:37.04 | raevanmorlock | Yes, I'm rather fortunate in that regard. |
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| 18:37.14 | raevanmorlock | Plus it's open-book, open-internet |
| 18:37.22 | raevanmorlock | But you're missing the bigger picture here... |
| 18:37.30 | Shirik|Ecole | the fact that you have easy finals? |
| 18:37.38 | raevanmorlock | And I don't wanna do them! |
| 18:37.56 | raevanmorlock | The tests I don't mind, honestly... it's the projects that I hate |
| 18:38.05 | Shirik|Ecole | Would you rather manually write a motorola S-record without an assembler, given a block of code? |
| 18:38.16 | raevanmorlock | If I was as smart as you.. sure |
| 18:38.24 | Shirik|Ecole | no, nobody wants to do that |
| 18:38.34 | raevanmorlock | But you did such a great job of it |
| 18:38.50 | Shirik|Ecole | when? |
| 18:38.50 | raevanmorlock | Something like that for my portfolio would be truly impressive |
| 18:39.08 | Shirik|Ecole | I didn't write the s-record for simon, ow, that would take me a year |
| 18:39.17 | Shirik|Ecole | s-record is like an executable for a motorola microcontroller |
| 18:39.19 | raevanmorlock | Sorry... you were talking about S-record... I was talking about Simon... |
| 18:39.22 | Davey2 | could anyone please test, or let me know if this would work in a battleground? http://www.dgane.com/BGStats.zip |
| 18:39.22 | Shirik|Ecole | It's assembled code |
| 18:39.23 | raevanmorlock | it's all a crazy pickle |
| 18:39.30 | foxlit | Um, I want a radiobutton styled like a regular actionbar icon |
| 18:39.45 | Davey2 | it usually takes me ages to get into and win a BG on Darkspear |
| 18:39.46 | foxlit | Do I need to write a heckload of code? |
| 18:39.58 | Davey2 | or lose |
| 18:40.08 | Davey2 | and i need to afk for a minute. brb |
| 18:41.03 | raevanmorlock | Where's a shooting star when ya need one? Hrmph. |
| 18:41.58 | Mr_Rabies2|away | wide on sooting staww |
| 18:42.15 | pastamancer | if wishes were fishes? |
| 18:42.36 | raevanmorlock | Then they'd smell bad |
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| 18:43.07 | Mr_Rabies2|away | then they'd be a pain to catch and require a lot of boring waiting |
| 18:43.38 | raevanmorlock | But wishes are like that... |
| 18:43.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe they are fishes |
| 18:44.06 | raevanmorlock | So I need to catch a fish to get my wish! |
| 18:44.51 | Shirik|Ecole | raevanmorlock: btw, this is what I was talking about: http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=issiu7.jpg |
| 18:44.53 | raevanmorlock | Well, that was a step in the right direction |
| 18:46.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, for some reason locationfu isn't on the ace updater anymore :O |
| 18:47.04 | raevanmorlock | And my brain isn't in my head anymore :( |
| 18:47.34 | foxlit | Boo :( |
| 18:47.48 | foxlit | Have to anchor a fontstring in one container to a child of the container, can't do that in pure XML :( |
| 18:47.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | my brain is on the internet. |
| 18:48.10 | raevanmorlock | You lucky dog! |
| 18:48.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 18:48.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it keeps browsing fanart on deviantart |
| 18:48.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 18:49.10 | raevanmorlock | You poor thing.. |
| 18:49.20 | Davey2 | can anyone tell me if that would work? |
| 18:49.42 | raevanmorlock | I am far too low a level to engage in your Battleground fantasies! |
| 18:49.57 | foxlit | that points to something you've said before, don't see anything to test, Davey |
| 18:50.10 | Davey2 | i did but no one caught it |
| 18:50.16 | Davey2 | [19:40] <Davey2> could anyone please test, or let me know if this would work in a battleground? http://www.dgane.com/BGStats.zip |
| 18:50.36 | raevanmorlock | I caught it |
| 18:50.41 | raevanmorlock | And I threw it back! |
| 18:50.46 | Davey2 | lol |
| 18:50.55 | Davey2 | well ive been in BG queue for 6 minutes so far |
| 18:52.25 | raevanmorlock | You could just release it and let the general public who see it adn go "wow, I'd love that" do all the testing for you. Course, when it doesn't work, they might be so bummed that they never return.... but that's a risk I'm willing to take! |
| 18:52.54 | Davey2 | i just want to see if im on the right tracks :P |
| 18:52.56 | raevanmorlock | One person in every couple hundred thousand is bound to submit a bug report to help ya out |
| 18:53.12 | Davey2 | its no where near public release |
| 18:53.20 | raevanmorlock | Aw don't sell yourself short! |
| 18:53.34 | raevanmorlock | I made an addon that only provides a keybind to reload the ui and released it! |
| 18:53.55 | foxlit | And you got a bug report that it didn't work? |
| 18:54.02 | raevanmorlock | No, it's flawless! |
| 18:54.19 | raevanmorlock | But that was something readily testable |
| 18:54.27 | Legorol | are you sure? does it work in conjunction with override bindings, hooks into ReloadUi and other corner cases? ;-) |
| 18:54.38 | raevanmorlock | Plus I'm not fully awake yet and I'm doing/saying anything in order to avoid working on my final |
| 18:55.22 | raevanmorlock | There's nothing to hook... it's just a Bindings.xml file that calls Blizzard's ReloadUI() function. If someone hooks that and messes with it -- well, that's their problem! |
| 18:55.33 | Davey2 | lol |
| 18:55.54 | Legorol | hmmm |
| 18:56.28 | foxlit | Set a custom environment for his code so that ReloadUI() is not defined for it |
| 18:56.41 | Legorol | that wouldn't be a bug in his AddOn though |
| 18:56.46 | foxlit | Sneakily package that into Ace |
| 18:56.49 | Legorol | it has to be raevanmorlock's fault ;-) |
| 18:56.52 | foxlit | And voila, his addon stops working :P |
| 18:56.54 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 18:57.37 | Legorol | >>> "test" |
| 18:57.43 | Legorol | >>> return "test" |
| 18:57.48 | foxlit | Bet he doesn't check that ReloadUI() exists before he calls it! |
| 18:58.22 | raevanmorlock | Purposely removing the function from my addon hardly makes that my fault! |
| 18:58.54 | raevanmorlock | Plus.. if it is removed, then an error should be thrown to alert the user |
| 18:59.03 | raevanmorlock | Which is what would happen |
| 18:59.09 | foxlit | Question is, do you throw that error, or do you not? |
| 18:59.21 | raevanmorlock | WoW would do it for me |
| 18:59.26 | foxlit | Not as of 2.1 |
| 18:59.39 | raevanmorlock | Well if the user has it disabled, then it shouldn't be thrown |
| 18:59.41 | foxlit | (well, not visibly) |
| 18:59.44 | raevanmorlock | So I'm still in the clear |
| 19:00.02 | Davey2 | ah im in a BG |
| 19:00.05 | Davey2 | Warsong gulch |
| 19:00.06 | raevanmorlock | yay! |
| 19:00.11 | Legorol | does your AddOn do collision checking to make sure no other AddOn is using the same name for the keybinding? |
| 19:00.22 | Legorol | if not, then it's not flawless! ha! |
| 19:00.24 | krka | Legorol: don't |
| 19:00.27 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.36 | Legorol | yes krka |
| 19:01.09 | raevanmorlock | No, it does not... but I don't see how it could |
| 19:01.16 | foxlit | Oh, it could |
| 19:01.24 | foxlit | SetBinding() |
| 19:02.03 | Legorol | i am not allowed to comment anymore, as I'm not supposed to be a meanie |
| 19:02.04 | raevanmorlock | But if something else is using the same name then I'd have to come up with some other name to use |
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| 19:03.10 | raevanmorlock | I guess I could do _G["BINDING_HEADER_RELOADUI_HEADER"..i] and keep incrementing i until something works and store that name to a local variable |
| 19:03.19 | Davey2 | hmm |
| 19:03.21 | Davey2 | it didn't work |
| 19:03.28 | Davey2 | oh |
| 19:03.36 | Davey2 | i didn't reloadui |
| 19:03.37 | foxlit | I don't think you can duplicate what Bindings.xml does live |
| 19:03.42 | foxlit | Not in the same general sense. |
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| 19:05.03 | Legorol | Kahlua? |
| 19:05.12 | raevanmorlock | It's lua with a kah |
| 19:05.44 | Legorol | it appears to be a strong cockatil |
| 19:05.51 | Legorol | s/cockatil/cocktail |
| 19:05.52 | Legorol | s/cockatil/cocktail/ |
| 19:05.56 | Legorol | bah! |
| 19:05.58 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 19:06.07 | krka | i'm fairly sure i've mentioned my project |
| 19:06.14 | raevanmorlock | nope! |
| 19:06.21 | Legorol | and i'm sure i wasn't around at the time |
| 19:06.24 | raevanmorlock | I remember everything and see everything |
| 19:06.27 | raevanmorlock | And it was never mentioned! |
| 19:06.57 | Legorol | at least you are doing something fun.. |
| 19:07.05 | Legorol | i'm supposed to be fixing code in Fortran instead of chatting here |
| 19:07.14 | raevanmorlock | And I should be doing my finals! |
| 19:07.27 | raevanmorlock | But, really, how important is graduating from college? |
| 19:07.33 | Legorol | not very |
| 19:07.45 | raevanmorlock | So what if my GPA is negative.. nobody cares! |
| 19:07.46 | Legorol | you could stay there forever, and then you can keep playing WoW |
| 19:08.20 | raevanmorlock | I like writing WoW addons more than playing the game |
| 19:08.33 | Legorol | whatever, you still need to stay in college to be able to do that ;-) |
| 19:08.56 | krka | I am doing a Lua Virtual Machine in Java |
| 19:09.01 | krka | sure i haven't mentioned it? |
| 19:09.26 | krka | raevanmorlock: likewise - which is why i am no longer playing wow |
| 19:09.33 | krka | blizzard took away all the fun! |
| 19:10.12 | cogwheel|work | krka: I think you only ever talked about it in #lua |
| 19:10.12 | Kaso | Can anyone think of a blizzard Icon that looks like a globe or something similar? |
| 19:10.27 | cogwheel|work | Kaso: the map icon? |
| 19:10.30 | raevanmorlock | Sounds familar, Kaso |
| 19:10.35 | foxlit | Question: in XML <OnLoad> context, "this" and "self" should be set to the object being loaded, right? |
| 19:10.48 | cogwheel|work | yes. use self though :P |
| 19:10.58 | Kaso | oh yah, forgot about that, ive had it disabled since they added that |
| 19:11.01 | raevanmorlock | I don't think self works in XML, does it? |
| 19:11.02 | krka | currently working on metatable functionality - all the rest is pretty much done :) |
| 19:11.08 | krka | except for the gazillion bugs of course |
| 19:11.25 | raevanmorlock | Don't worry about bugs.. just work past them |
| 19:11.53 | raevanmorlock | Just think about Cide... he'd be so much more fun if he didn't go fixing all his bugs |
| 19:13.19 | foxlit | cogwheel|work: does it make a difference? |
| 19:13.32 | cogwheel|work | this is global, hence slower |
| 19:13.42 | cogwheel|work | it's technically deprecated |
| 19:18.12 | foxlit | deprecated means it's good? |
| 19:18.26 | [dRaCo] | wowhead down? :/ |
| 19:18.42 | leethal | [dRaCo]: seems like it is |
| 19:21.11 | raevanmorlock | no.. deprecated means it's bad -- I was being funny! |
| 19:21.18 | [dRaCo] | at least it's not me, thanks |
| 19:22.32 | cogwheel|work | ~dict deprecated |
| 19:22.35 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 19:22.38 | foxlit | There's really no need, I was being ironic :) |
| 19:22.53 | raevanmorlock | You're about as ironic as I am funny! |
| 19:23.15 | foxlit | Besides, Green means it's good! |
| 19:23.30 | raevanmorlock | Green? |
| 19:23.35 | raevanmorlock | Green means STOP! |
| 19:24.32 | raevanmorlock | SciTE is so nifty.. I should probably uninstall Notepad++ and Crimson Editor now |
| 19:24.52 | cogwheel|work | Scite > all |
| 19:25.07 | raevanmorlock | If it had a vertical line, it'd be perfect! |
| 19:25.18 | cogwheel|work | open global options |
| 19:25.33 | raevanmorlock | I did.. didn't see it in there |
| 19:25.37 | cogwheel|work | edge.mode=1 |
| 19:25.45 | cogwheel|work | edge.column=80 (or whatever) |
| 19:26.02 | cogwheel|work | edge.colour=#C0C0C0 (or whatever) |
| 19:26.10 | Davey2 | my script should work even if the GUI is hidden right? |
| 19:26.42 | raevanmorlock | sonofa... nobody mentioned this last time I complained about it! |
| 19:26.56 | raevanmorlock | Thanks, cogwheel|work |
| 19:27.06 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: Depends on the script |
| 19:27.23 | raevanmorlock | if you say.... if not UIParent:IsVisible() then return; end -- it probably won't work too well |
| 19:27.26 | cogwheel|work | took me a while to figure it out :) |
| 19:27.34 | Legorol | SciTe officially rulez them all |
| 19:27.48 | cogwheel|work | yep. I use it for all my text editing nowadays |
| 19:27.58 | pastamancer | scite doesn't have a mail reader or irc client :( |
| 19:28.31 | cogwheel|work | except for XML thanks to visual studio's XSD features :) |
| 19:28.31 | Legorol | i'd been preaching SciTe in here for as long as WoW was scriptable (before AddOns!) |
| 19:28.31 | Legorol | i prefer xmlspy for that, but only because it's free :o) |
| 19:28.31 | raevanmorlock | Yes.. that's the other thing I was going to mention -- it needs an XSD reader |
| 19:28.33 | raevanmorlock | But I don't use XML too much for WoW |
| 19:28.33 | cogwheel|work | xmlspy is free for 30 days ... |
| 19:28.42 | Legorol | yeah that it could do with, but considering that it's a light-weight editor.. |
| 19:28.47 | Legorol | cogwheel|work: no, it's completely free |
| 19:28.49 | cogwheel|work | visual studio is free period |
| 19:28.52 | Legorol | the Home edition is unlimited |
| 19:29.02 | Legorol | Codayus: oh, please link |
| 19:29.02 | cogwheel|work | ah |
| 19:29.07 | raevanmorlock | lol foxlit |
| 19:29.10 | Legorol | i would love ot have a free visual studio |
| 19:29.11 | cogwheel|work | same for the visual studio express editions |
| 19:29.18 | Legorol | yeah, but do they do XSD? |
| 19:29.22 | cogwheel|work | yes |
| 19:29.28 | Legorol | aha, then i'll check it out |
| 19:29.34 | Legorol | which one is the XML editor? |
| 19:29.40 | cogwheel|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Set_up_Visual_Studio_for_WoW_XML |
| 19:29.48 | cogwheel|work | they all use the same editor environment |
| 19:29.48 | raevanmorlock | I have all the Express Edition stuff.. it roxors |
| 19:30.03 | Legorol | yeah i have them too, but i don't usually use them as i don't code in those languages |
| 19:30.10 | foxlit | VS takes too long to load, tbh |
| 19:30.23 | raevanmorlock | Well, it is Microsoft |
| 19:30.30 | Legorol | so if i wanted to edit XML with XSD, which VS express product do you suggest? |
| 19:30.31 | foxlit | notepad is microsoft too! |
| 19:30.34 | raevanmorlock | A 5 minute wait is standard on all their software |
| 19:30.51 | raevanmorlock | Notepad had a 5 minute wait years ago when it was made |
| 19:30.57 | nuoHep | i have one noob question about folding in scite. is it possible to make it not fold the lines after the end of the block? |
| 19:30.57 | Shirik | VS takes about 5 seconds for me to load :/ |
| 19:30.57 | raevanmorlock | Stupid processors just caught up to it |
| 19:30.59 | cogwheel|work | Legorol: whichever one has a shorter download or whichever one you might use for its own purposes |
| 19:31.17 | Legorol | cogwheel|work: i have all downloaded, and don't intend to use any for its own purpose |
| 19:31.19 | Legorol | so can you pick one for me? |
| 19:31.28 | Legorol | i think i will go with Basic actually |
| 19:31.35 | Legorol | just because everyone always tells off poor Basic |
| 19:31.52 | foxlit | Basic is okay, but the syntax is painful after LUA |
| 19:32.07 | raevanmorlock | Do you have the Web Developer Express Edition thingy? That might be a good one for XML |
| 19:32.20 | cogwheel|work | >>> return "Legorol:"..({"C#", "C++", "Basic", "Web Developer", "J#"})[math.random(5)] |
| 19:32.31 | raevanmorlock | nuoHep: So you want it to fold without folding..? |
| 19:32.55 | Legorol | cogwheel|work: unfortunately Cide's program is out cold tonight |
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| 19:33.12 | raevanmorlock | cogwheel|work: Legoral: Web Developer |
| 19:33.29 | cogwheel|work | it really doesn't matter... |
| 19:33.34 | cogwheel|work | they all use the same editor |
| 19:33.39 | Legorol | i fell in love with visual basic when i found out that windows natively allows you to write vb scripts without any additional installations |
| 19:34.04 | raevanmorlock | I used to use VB script alot to rename files |
| 19:34.06 | Legorol | i am a great fan of minimalist approaches and of things that i can expect to be available on my neighbour's kid's dog's PC |
| 19:34.31 | raevanmorlock | And VB Script was infinitely help for launching D2 mods until I made my own program to do it |
| 19:34.37 | raevanmorlock | s/help/helpful/ |
| 19:34.49 | Legorol | did you know for example that on a standard installation of Windows XP, using Notepad, with 3 lines of typing you can create a script that will send keypresses to WoW? |
| 19:34.57 | Legorol | no other software required |
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| 19:35.11 | Legorol | so much for botting and 3rd party interaction |
| 19:35.14 | nuoHep | raevanmorlock. nope. atm it folds everything after the block's "end" till the next block's "begin". for eg i have do .. end block and 4 blank lines after it. it will fold these 4 linesinto the block :/ |
| 19:35.49 | raevanmorlock | nuoHep: Oh yeah.. I don't use folding, but I remember noticing that the other day while tinkering around. It is pretty lame :-\ |
| 19:36.34 | foxlit | Legorol: I would assume SendKeys is pretty detectable |
| 19:36.34 | Legorol | back in the days when AutoTravel was nerfed for the first time, so that movement required keypresses, you could still use it with nothing more than those 3 lines written in notepad |
| 19:36.46 | cogwheel|work | it's probably a purposeful feature |
| 19:36.47 | Shirik | cogwheel|work: Use GetRandomArgument!! |
| 19:36.59 | cogwheel|work | hehe |
| 19:37.20 | cogwheel|work | obfuscation > lack of garbage |
| 19:37.40 | Legorol | anyway, this just illustrates why the policy nowadays is the greyer "automation is bad, m'kay?" instead of what it used to be "no 3rd party software" |
| 19:37.46 | kergoth | i miss autotravel. |
| 19:37.51 | Shirik | I don't think GetRandomArgument creates garbage |
| 19:37.53 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: when in doubt, look in global propeties... |
| 19:37.59 | cogwheel|work | Shirik: exactly |
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| 19:38.07 | raevanmorlock | I'm looking in there now.. and opening the SciTE docs |
| 19:38.08 | cogwheel|work | i was going for obfuscation over optimization :P |
| 19:38.13 | Shirik | oh >< |
| 19:38.21 | Shirik | I... do hope this is not a choice you normally take... |
| 19:38.22 | raevanmorlock | If I can remember where If ound them |
| 19:38.25 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: maybe fold.compact? |
| 19:38.36 | raevanmorlock | I tried setting that to 0... didn't do anything |
| 19:38.45 | raevanmorlock | It was currently at 1 |
| 19:39.11 | Legorol | since it's not relevant anymore, i can also mention the following interesting bit of trivia about notepad and WoW: |
| 19:39.36 | raevanmorlock | It does sound like fold.compact should be correct according to http://scintilla.sourceforge.net/SciTEDoc.html :-\ |
| 19:39.40 | Legorol | you used to be unable to set WoW's process priority from task manager (this was a sideeffect of anti-hack/bot measures) |
| 19:39.50 | Legorol | with 2 lines of code written in notepad, you could do it anyway |
| 19:40.08 | Shirik | logically, 2 lines of code written in any text editor would have worked |
| 19:40.10 | raevanmorlock | I see why you love Notepad so much, Legorol |
| 19:40.12 | Shirik | just to clarify |
| 19:40.21 | Legorol | Shirik: i am a purist |
| 19:40.26 | raevanmorlock | No, Shirik, it must be Notepad! |
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| 19:40.36 | Legorol | so i am considering tools that are available on an out-of-the-box Windows box |
| 19:40.42 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:40.44 | kergoth | copy con! |
| 19:40.45 | Legorol | actually there is logic to the madness |
| 19:40.58 | Shirik | ok Legorol, then use edit |
| 19:41.00 | Shirik | screw notepad |
| 19:41.12 | Shirik | what if they don't have a GUI? |
| 19:41.14 | Legorol | the reason why i like to know what i can achieve with just the available tools is that i often find myself in situations where i can't install new software |
| 19:41.20 | Shirik | or something corrupted notepad? |
| 19:41.22 | Legorol | i like to be prepared and know what i can do with what i got |
| 19:41.26 | kergoth | portable apps on a usb stick ftw |
| 19:41.50 | Shirik | Use a linux live cd |
| 19:41.51 | Legorol | actually i have a complete Windows XP on a USB stick |
| 19:42.03 | Legorol | as long as the computer is able to boot from USB, i can load it |
| 19:42.31 | Legorol | great tool for system administration/troubleshooting |
| 19:44.04 | Legorol | in the course of setting that up, i learnt a few interesting things about USB sticks |
| 19:44.09 | raevanmorlock | nuoHep: I dunno.. it should be fold.compact=1, but I can't get it to work |
| 19:44.31 | Legorol | since this is an IRC channel, i can ramble on thanks god, and at worst people wont' read it |
| 19:45.17 | raevanmorlock | oh I'll read it alright.. and I'll tell the government all about your schemes to rock the planet! |
| 19:45.27 | Legorol | yay! |
| 19:45.31 | Legorol | which government? |
| 19:45.34 | Legorol | mine or yours? |
| 19:45.38 | Maldivia | heh... the new spiderman movie is already on the Chinese DVD-pirate marked :) |
| 19:45.39 | raevanmorlock | THE government |
| 19:45.56 | Legorol | if i am not mistaken, there are over 150 governments in the world |
| 19:46.07 | raevanmorlock | Don't you know about THE government which rules over all the other ones? |
| 19:46.15 | Legorol | nope, never heard of it |
| 19:46.22 | krka | really? would seem odd that it stayed in china... should surface on p2p networks |
| 19:46.29 | Legorol | i have heard of the European Parliament, but that's a nuisance at best and can't rule anything, although it tries ot |
| 19:46.32 | Legorol | *to |
| 19:46.34 | raevanmorlock | Gah.. nothing in this world is by chance. The Government controls it all! |
| 19:47.08 | Legorol | btw, about the "odd" behaviour of the folding in Scite, i think it actually makes more sense this way |
| 19:47.13 | Legorol | consider a block of code like this: |
| 19:47.21 | raevanmorlock | You think President Bush is a completely imbecile... but, really, he's only following orders from The Government. How else would he have gotten re-elected again and again? |
| 19:47.36 | TC-Working | anyone know anything about OSX and integrating with AD? |
| 19:47.37 | Legorol | do .. end <blank> do .. end <blank> do .. end <blank> do .. end <blank> do .. end <blank> do .. end <blank> do .. end <blank> |
| 19:47.38 | Maldivia | krka: probably going to before long - just read in on a news site... I find it quite funny considering it haven't been released in theaters yet in the US :9 |
| 19:48.00 | Legorol | if you fold all the intermediate blocks, and leave hte first and last unfolded, you'd end up with a bunch of blank lines between |
| 19:48.04 | Legorol | that doesn't really make sense |
| 19:48.18 | Legorol | including the trailing blanks to be a part of the block makes sense imo |
| 19:49.17 | raevanmorlock | Legorol: Well that's what fold.compact is supposedly for... so people can choose if they want the whitespace to fold or not |
| 19:49.26 | Legorol | oh right |
| 19:49.48 | raevanmorlock | The docs say "For HTML, XML, Lua and C++ and similar files, turning this option on leads to blank lines following the end of an element folding with that element. Defaults to on." |
| 19:50.07 | Legorol | right |
| 19:50.12 | Maldivia | krka: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3if48e249f7c846ef9290a1d11d7a570ef |
| 19:50.16 | Legorol | so did you try fold.compact=0 |
| 19:50.27 | raevanmorlock | Yeah I tried that too.. exactly the same behavior |
| 19:50.34 | Legorol | nvm, i scrolled up |
| 19:51.13 | Davey2 | omg |
| 19:51.14 | Davey2 | yay |
| 19:51.18 | Davey2 | it worked :D |
| 19:51.21 | raevanmorlock | WoOhOo! |
| 19:51.31 | Davey2 | "Alliance team wins the battleground!" i was like - w00t |
| 19:51.33 | Legorol | raevanmorlock: you have to reload SciTe for the change to take effect |
| 19:51.35 | Legorol | did you do that? |
| 19:51.42 | Legorol | i set it to 0 and it worked |
| 19:51.54 | raevanmorlock | I thought I tried that originally |
| 19:52.05 | Legorol | Davey2: your AddOn is clearly broken. Alliance never wins a battleground. |
| 19:52.23 | raevanmorlock | Son of a ... don't the docs say it should be 1 in order to not fold the whitespace? |
| 19:52.26 | raevanmorlock | Or am I reading it wrong? |
| 19:52.31 | Legorol | you read it wrong |
| 19:52.45 | raevanmorlock | 0 is on? |
| 19:52.47 | raevanmorlock | Bah! |
| 19:52.58 | cogwheel|work | compact=0 means "not compact" |
| 19:52.59 | Legorol | turning it *on* leads to blank lines folding *with* the element |
| 19:53.06 | Legorol | raevanmorlock: read the doc again |
| 19:53.08 | Legorol | 1 is on |
| 19:53.10 | raevanmorlock | oooh WITH |
| 19:53.19 | raevanmorlock | Thank you ^_^ |
| 19:53.24 | nuoHep | oh... folding.compact works now (never worked for me before). back to scite then >.< |
| 19:53.32 | Davey2 | lol legorol |
| 19:53.34 | raevanmorlock | lol |
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| 19:54.01 | Legorol | Davey2: i am sorry to have broken your spirit |
| 19:54.02 | nuoHep | i think i also was reading it wrong :/ |
| 19:54.06 | Legorol | if i were you i'd start looking for that bug |
| 19:54.09 | raevanmorlock | I hate when random numbers call me.. is there any way to find out where they're from? |
| 19:54.15 | cogwheel|work | I thought it didn't work too... Some settings require a restart of lua, others don't |
| 19:54.24 | raevanmorlock | nuoHep: Yeah.. it's written a little strange |
| 19:54.33 | Davey2 | how do you get the name of the battleground? i want to define whether the battleground is Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin or Alterac Valley |
| 19:54.48 | raevanmorlock | You could check the minimap thingy |
| 19:54.48 | Legorol | let me check somethign about this folding thing.. |
| 19:54.52 | cogwheel|work | who needs docs? :P the name of the variable itself is more descriptive imo |
| 19:55.03 | raevanmorlock | cogwheel|work: Yes.. I agree, now that I know how it works |
| 19:55.05 | Davey2 | i mean in the script. lol |
| 19:55.23 | Legorol | yup, just as i thought... you don't need to reload SciTe, just close and reopen the file |
| 19:55.29 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: Find out where the Minimap gets it from. Or just scan the minimap for it |
| 19:55.31 | cogwheel|work | ah |
| 19:55.39 | Legorol | presumably the editor sets itself up from the options on this one on opening |
| 19:55.41 | raevanmorlock | reopen the file? Bleh! |
| 19:55.51 | Legorol | it can get in a confusing state if you change folding behaviour with active folds, presumably |
| 19:55.52 | Davey2 | well according to wowwiki it would be GetBattlefieldInfo() |
| 19:55.54 | cogwheel|work | easier to exit scite :P |
| 19:55.54 | Davey2 | arg1 |
| 19:56.04 | cogwheel|work | esp. if you have a bunch of files open |
| 19:56.07 | Legorol | cogwheel|work: takes longer |
| 19:56.08 | Davey2 | but wouldn't that return "Warsong Gulch 1" |
| 19:56.12 | Legorol | ctrl+w, alt+f, 1 |
| 19:56.22 | Shirik | that is |
| 19:56.25 | Shirik | a really bad documentation |
| 19:56.26 | Davey2 | "Alterac Valley 2" |
| 19:56.26 | Davey2 | etc |
| 19:56.28 | cogwheel|work | doesn't take longer if you have a quick launch icon :P |
| 19:56.41 | cogwheel|work | or a keyboard shortcut for that matter :) |
| 19:56.54 | Legorol | bleh, my scite doesn't save the last session, so it doesn't reopen them |
| 19:57.06 | Legorol | i guess i should change to the one on wowi, i have that on my laptop |
| 19:57.08 | cogwheel|work | save.session=1 |
| 19:57.08 | raevanmorlock | Your SciTE is inferior! |
| 19:57.14 | Legorol | but that one doesn't know so many languages |
| 19:57.16 | Shirik | btw |
| 19:57.20 | Legorol | cogwheel|work: i know, and i actually like it this way tbh |
| 19:57.22 | raevanmorlock | I don't like the one on wowi |
| 19:57.25 | Shirik | Davey2: You want GetBattlefieldStatus |
| 19:57.28 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: Give me teh wiki link |
| 19:57.36 | raevanmorlock | Or listen to Shirik |
| 19:57.37 | Shirik | which returns the localized map name of the current battleground |
| 19:57.44 | cogwheel|work | the one on wowi has all the formats, it just doesn't show them by default |
| 19:57.49 | Legorol | the one on wowi has better support for WoW in some respects |
| 19:58.03 | Legorol | i also like its layout a bit better, and having boxes for the folding icons |
| 19:58.13 | Legorol | cogwheel|work: aha, how can i fix that |
| 19:58.14 | raevanmorlock | I just hate that it calls it SciTE-WoW (or whatever) all over the place and I have to go through and rename it back to SciTE |
| 19:58.17 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldStatus |
| 19:58.19 | Legorol | how can i make fortran appear in the list? |
| 19:58.23 | cogwheel|work | Global Options, silly :P |
| 19:58.24 | Shirik | which, btw, is ALSO horribly documented |
| 19:58.30 | Legorol | raevanmorlock: true |
| 19:58.38 | cogwheel|work | under menu.language |
| 19:58.46 | Legorol | fairly nuff |
| 19:58.47 | Davey2 | ahhh. thank you Shirik :) |
| 19:58.52 | Davey2 | you pwn |
| 19:58.56 | Shirik | :) |
| 19:59.16 | Legorol | Shirik: but it's a wiki! how can it be horribly documented? thousands of users edit it |
| 19:59.27 | Legorol | surely with that kind of manpower it should be an excellent resource |
| 19:59.32 | Shirik | And it is |
| 19:59.32 | raevanmorlock | At the end of global options, just uncomment the import fortran line to enable fortrain.. and do something similar to the menu.language var to have it listed in the Language menu |
| 19:59.42 | Shirik | Unfortunately this page has seen a lack of "thousands of users edit it" |
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| 19:59.57 | raevanmorlock | Has anyone added the 2.x stuff tot he wiki yet? |
| 20:00.18 | cogwheel|work | anyONE? no... |
| 20:00.40 | cogwheel|work | and no to the "all" implied along with "the 2.x stuff" |
| 20:00.43 | raevanmorlock | And more importantly.. how do I find out who owns the number (302) 420 6187? |
| 20:00.44 | Shirik | bots have :P |
| 20:00.53 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: infoUSA |
| 20:00.55 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: Reverse white pages |
| 20:01.58 | Legorol | hm, i now officially and publically apologise and admit i was a dufus |
| 20:02.25 | Legorol | you guys were right and i was wrong about the folding with whitespace thing, it *is* better without it folding with the blanks |
| 20:02.32 | raevanmorlock | and reverse white pages wins! |
| 20:02.39 | Legorol | was it your grandma? |
| 20:03.00 | raevanmorlock | My grandma? What?! |
| 20:03.11 | Legorol | the person calling you |
| 20:03.15 | raevanmorlock | ooh |
| 20:03.37 | raevanmorlock | All it says is that it's a Nextel number |
| 20:03.38 | raevanmorlock | http://www.whitepages.com/10001/search/ReversePhone?phone=302-420-6187 |
| 20:03.48 | raevanmorlock | in Wilmington DE |
| 20:03.51 | raevanmorlock | I don't know anyone from there |
| 20:03.55 | Legorol | you got a stalker or an admirer, possibly both |
| 20:04.02 | krka | the best kind! |
| 20:04.25 | Legorol | presumably Wilmington, DE is the location of Nextel Communication, not the cellphone owner |
| 20:04.32 | raevanmorlock | Ya think so? I've always wanted a stalker.... it'd be kind of hard to stalk me from across the country though. |
| 20:04.33 | Legorol | if it's an unpublished number, it woudln't list the owner's location? |
| 20:04.44 | krka | i've been stalkmiring legorol for several years now and he still hasn't figured it out! |
| 20:05.02 | Legorol | omg, was that it? |
| 20:05.05 | raevanmorlock | You'll have to start being more forward about it, krka |
| 20:05.17 | Legorol | i wondered why i had a red-paper wrapped heart shaped chocolate in my mailbox the other day |
| 20:05.22 | Legorol | then all those e-cards.. |
| 20:05.26 | raevanmorlock | Ya know.. send him flowers... whisper sweet nothings in his ear while he's in the shower... that sort of thing |
| 20:05.42 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cide (n=Cide@81-237-213-149-no60.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:05.43 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 20:05.47 | raevanmorlock | Cide! |
| 20:05.51 | Legorol | >>> "Cide!" |
| 20:05.54 | krka | -rw-r--r-- 1 krka krka 27244 2007-04-24 22:05 in.jar |
| 20:05.54 | krka | -rw-r--r-- 1 krka krka 12486 2007-04-24 22:05 out.jar |
| 20:05.57 | krka | total pwnage |
| 20:06.02 | Shirik | umm |
| 20:06.03 | Legorol | so, what *is* Kahlua |
| 20:06.06 | krka | my VM takes up less than 13kb |
| 20:06.09 | Legorol | (apart from a nice cocktail) |
| 20:06.12 | Shirik | lack of x bit on .jar executable? |
| 20:06.15 | Legorol | ah, it's your VM, is it? |
| 20:06.22 | krka | not an executable Shirik |
| 20:06.27 | krka | Legorol: yes indede |
| 20:06.32 | Shirik | it's just an archive? |
| 20:06.36 | krka | yes |
| 20:06.38 | Shirik | Ah |
| 20:06.47 | krka | proguard obfuscates java classes and puts them in a jar |
| 20:06.48 | Legorol | the jar format is almost identical to zip isn't it? |
| 20:06.49 | Shirik | I've never actually put together a jar that wasn't executable :P |
| 20:06.56 | krka | Legorol: if you skip the word "almost" |
| 20:07.00 | Legorol | in fact they are complitely compatible? |
| 20:07.02 | Legorol | right |
| 20:07.06 | krka | you can freely rename it to zip and not know the difference |
| 20:07.09 | Legorol | you can rename zip to jar and vice versa |
| 20:07.14 | Legorol | lol, was just about to say |
| 20:07.25 | krka | not sure if it's implied that jar contains java meta info though |
| 20:07.30 | raevanmorlock | Really? I didn't know that. |
| 20:07.31 | krka | like which class to execute |
| 20:07.45 | krka | (but jars generally contain that) |
| 20:07.47 | Legorol | i think so |
| 20:07.51 | Shirik | right |
| 20:07.53 | Legorol | jar is zip-with-metadata |
| 20:08.07 | Legorol | i mean, it's a zip file where you can expect a metadata file in it |
| 20:08.18 | TC-Working | why do i hate html coding, but like most of the others? |
| 20:08.26 | raevanmorlock | what others? |
| 20:08.27 | krka | in any case, 13kb is pretty damn good, if i may say so :) |
| 20:08.35 | Legorol | writing html is not coding >.< |
| 20:08.36 | cogwheel|work | HTML isn't coding |
| 20:08.36 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 20:08.37 | cogwheel|work | it's markup |
| 20:08.42 | krka | since my target platform is mobile phones too |
| 20:08.48 | Shirik | krka: Not bad |
| 20:08.49 | TC-Working | hmm..that may be why |
| 20:08.50 | Legorol | krka: yes you may say so |
| 20:08.52 | raevanmorlock | it's _hypertext_ markup.. dun dun duunnnn |
| 20:08.53 | Legorol | but only because you admire me |
| 20:09.00 | Cide | bot's enabled |
| 20:09.04 | krka | still.. a few features and bugs to sort out |
| 20:09.06 | Legorol | >>> "Cide!" |
| 20:09.10 | krka | but i dont expect it to grow above 20kb |
| 20:09.12 | Shirik | ha! |
| 20:09.12 | Cide | Legorol: "Cide!" |
| 20:09.13 | Shirik | She tricked you |
| 20:09.14 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:09.19 | Legorol | she? O.o |
| 20:09.19 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:09.22 | Shirik | damn it |
| 20:09.22 | raevanmorlock | Cide is a dude, dude |
| 20:09.24 | Shirik | He! |
| 20:09.26 | cogwheel|work | >>> "Legorol:"..({"C#", "C++", "Basic", "Web Developer", "J#"})[math.random(5)] |
| 20:09.31 | Shirik | Whenever I see a vowel at the end I always think female |
| 20:09.32 | Cide | cogwheel|work: "Legorol:C++" |
| 20:09.37 | Legorol | i heard his delicious base tones in an interview |
| 20:09.48 | Legorol | thanks cogwheel|work that settles it |
| 20:09.48 | Shirik | I know both Cide and clad|work are guys |
| 20:09.50 | TC-Working | heh cog |
| 20:10.02 | TC-Working | cide is the new magic 8-ball |
| 20:10.20 | Shirik | >>> return GetRandomArgument; |
| 20:10.20 | Cide | Shirik: nil |
| 20:10.22 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:10.23 | raevanmorlock | We should totally make an 8ball script for him |
| 20:10.29 | Shirik | wtb GetRandomArgument implementation... |
| 20:10.33 | raevanmorlock | And by we.. I mean someone other than me |
| 20:10.37 | raevanmorlock | Because I'm incompetent |
| 20:10.38 | TC-Working | heh |
| 20:10.45 | TC-Working | ~8ball |
| 20:10.47 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Yes - definitely |
| 20:10.50 | Cide | I've been debating doing some kind of saved data |
| 20:10.56 | Cide | but not sure what I'd do or how I'd implement it |
| 20:11.03 | Legorol | Cide, any chance you could add a feature to your program so that it can store named chunks that persist across sessions? |
| 20:11.07 | Legorol | lol you beat me to it |
| 20:11.11 | Cide | lol |
| 20:11.15 | Legorol | i propose the following: |
| 20:11.27 | Legorol | make a global table named CideLuaScriptSnippets |
| 20:11.34 | Legorol | and anything under that should persist |
| 20:11.39 | Legorol | then we can do: |
| 20:11.43 | TC-Working | Cide, agree to it, but make everyone pitch in for a new HD for you |
| 20:11.48 | raevanmorlock | Oh Cide, I was wondering the other day.. ever think to combine the pastey code stuff with the normal code stuff? So people could define functions within a pastey and then call them from in here? |
| 20:11.54 | Shirik | >>> function GetRandomArgument(...) return select(math.random(select('#', ...)), ...) end print(GetRandomArgument(1,2,3)) print(GetRandomArgument(1,2,3)) print(GetRandomArgument(1,2,3)) |
| 20:11.54 | Cide | Shirik: 2, 3, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3 |
| 20:11.58 | Shirik | oops |
| 20:12.15 | Legorol | >>> function CLSS.Eightball() return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end |
| 20:12.15 | Cide | Legorol: [string "function CLSS.Eightball() return ({...})[math.random(select("#"..."]:1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 20:12.19 | Shirik | NO! |
| 20:12.22 | Shirik | Evil garbage! |
| 20:12.24 | Legorol | >>> function CLSS.Eightball(...) return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end |
| 20:12.24 | Cide | Legorol: [string "function CLSS.Eightball(...) return ({...})..."]:1: attempt to index global 'CLSS' (a nil value) |
| 20:12.32 | Shirik | ak stop with the tables :( |
| 20:12.32 | Legorol | you get the point |
| 20:12.40 | Legorol | >>> function Eightball(...) return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end |
| 20:12.41 | Cide | Legorol: nil |
| 20:12.43 | Shirik | use select |
| 20:12.55 | Legorol | >>> function Eightball(...) return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end Eightball("yay","woo","hurray") |
| 20:13.05 | Cide | Legorol: nil |
| 20:13.12 | Legorol | >>> function Eightball(...) return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end return Eightball("yay","woo","hurray") |
| 20:13.13 | Cide | Legorol: "woo" |
| 20:13.15 | Legorol | >>> function Eightball(...) return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end return Eightball("yay","woo","hurray") |
| 20:13.15 | Cide | Legorol: "woo" |
| 20:13.17 | Legorol | >>> function Eightball(...) return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end return Eightball("yay","woo","hurray") |
| 20:13.18 | Cide | Legorol: "woo" |
| 20:13.20 | Legorol | >>> function Eightball(...) return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end return Eightball("yay","woo","hurray") |
| 20:13.21 | raevanmorlock | stooooooooooooop |
| 20:13.27 | Shirik | Just because you have a ton of RAM isn't an excuse create garbage... |
| 20:13.30 | raevanmorlock | hehe.. i said stoop |
| 20:13.33 | Legorol | ok ok |
| 20:13.35 | Cide | Legorol: "woo" |
| 20:13.35 | Cide | I think it's not seeding properly |
| 20:13.40 | Legorol | yeah |
| 20:13.44 | Legorol | that's what i was testing |
| 20:13.44 | Cide | Shirik: I know :) |
| 20:13.53 | Legorol | Cide: sorry, i broke your script again :/ |
| 20:13.56 | Legorol | i seem to tend to do that |
| 20:13.57 | Shirik | Sadly too many people don't agree with that :( |
| 20:14.00 | Cide | there should be a simple fix |
| 20:14.02 | cogwheel|work | Cide: you using 64-bit OS or PAE? |
| 20:14.13 | Legorol | >>> function Eightball(...) return select(math.random(select("#",...)),...) end return Eightball("yay","woo","hurray") |
| 20:14.21 | Legorol | happy you anti-GC people? |
| 20:14.28 | Shirik | :D |
| 20:14.31 | Shirik | though |
| 20:14.45 | Shirik | I think, it should be select(math.random(select("#", ...)), ...), nil end |
| 20:14.45 | cogwheel|work | now look what you gone & done :P |
| 20:14.45 | raevanmorlock | GJ.. you killed him! |
| 20:14.55 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cide (n=Cide@81-237-213-149-no60.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:14.55 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 20:14.57 | Shirik | which will force only one return value |
| 20:15.18 | cogwheel|work | Shirik: just put () around it |
| 20:15.18 | Legorol | that's irrelevant |
| 20:15.19 | Cide | cogwheel|work: PAE, didn't dare to try 64-bit vista :P |
| 20:15.27 | Legorol | Shirik: in fact, it's worse |
| 20:15.35 | Shirik | Legorol: What do you mean? |
| 20:15.45 | raevanmorlock | Bob: Hi! |
| 20:15.47 | Legorol | without the ,nil at the end, you need to push an extra nil on the stack |
| 20:15.49 | Shirik | If you return directly select() you risk returning multiple values |
| 20:15.50 | cogwheel|work | I've actually had better luck with 64-bit vista than 32-bit... |
| 20:15.51 | Legorol | and havfe some extra code |
| 20:16.00 | Legorol | Shirik: yes but you always have that |
| 20:16.03 | cogwheel|work | and for some reason, PAE doesn't work right on my mobo :( |
| 20:16.05 | Shirik | Negative |
| 20:16.09 | Legorol | what i mean is that they are on the stack, they don't get copied |
| 20:16.10 | Shirik | watch |
| 20:16.32 | Shirik | >>> function GetFirst(...) return ..., nil; end return GetFirst(1,2,3); |
| 20:16.33 | Legorol | yes you do return all of them |
| 20:16.38 | Shirik | cide :( |
| 20:16.49 | raevanmorlock | ~slap me |
| 20:16.51 | purl | ACTION slaps raevanmorlock, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:17.18 | krka | yeah, there's not much benefit of truncating args |
| 20:17.26 | Legorol | Shirik: my point is, however is select implemented, doing select(x,...) is faster than select(x,...), nil |
| 20:17.30 | Legorol | the latter involves an extra operation |
| 20:17.50 | Shirik | right, I'm just saying it fits the definition of the function better |
| 20:17.59 | Legorol | either way all return values of select are pushed on the stack, then in the 2nd case, all but one are discarded |
| 20:18.01 | Shirik | there is certainly no benefit directly |
| 20:18.15 | krka | return select(...) will make it possible to compile the code to TAICALL |
| 20:18.17 | Legorol | i'm going for efficiency here |
| 20:18.33 | krka | both (select) and select, nil will compile to a plain call and then some tweaks |
| 20:18.36 | Shirik | If you're going for efficency then why were you making tables up the wazoo before >< |
| 20:18.43 | raevanmorlock | It's fun watching people argue about things that are completely over my head. I don't know who's side to be on. |
| 20:18.45 | Cide | Shirik: 1, nil |
| 20:18.48 | Legorol | Shirik: i didn't first |
| 20:18.49 | Cide | >>> math.random(1, 10) |
| 20:18.53 | Cide | hm, interesting |
| 20:18.57 | Legorol | *you* forced me to go the efficient way |
| 20:19.04 | Legorol | so i went all out |
| 20:19.14 | krka | you naughty naughty man Shirik! |
| 20:19.15 | Shirik | 16:12:18 ‹Legorol› >>> function CLSS.Eightball() return ({...})[math.random(select("#",...))] end |
| 20:19.17 | Cide | >>> math.random(1, 10) |
| 20:19.17 | Cide | Cide: 4 |
| 20:19.17 | Cide | >>> math.random(1, 10) |
| 20:19.17 | Cide | Cide: 7 |
| 20:19.18 | Cide | should work now |
| 20:19.18 | Shirik | I see a table :/ |
| 20:19.19 | krka | forcing such things upon legorol |
| 20:19.20 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 20:19.21 | Legorol | ROFL |
| 20:19.22 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 20:19.31 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 20:19.54 | Legorol | i love creating garbage |
| 20:19.57 | Legorol | and i love the GC |
| 20:19.57 | krka | personally i'd redesign the code to work like this: |
| 20:20.01 | Legorol | i say abuse it |
| 20:20.11 | Shirik | how is WoW's GetRandomArgument implemented? |
| 20:20.18 | raevanmorlock | "There must be an angle with a smile on her face when she thought-up that I should be with you. But it's time to face the truth: I will never be with you!" |
| 20:20.20 | Legorol | WoW has a getrandomargument?? |
| 20:20.20 | krka | function eightball(t) return t[math.random(1, #t)] end |
| 20:20.35 | Shirik | yes but that requires a table to be passed in :( |
| 20:20.48 | krka | that's why i said "redesign the code" |
| 20:20.48 | raevanmorlock | Tables are like so totally bad and some stuff |
| 20:21.02 | Legorol | krka: that's not that good, i need to create a table |
| 20:21.02 | krka | tables are awesome! |
| 20:21.09 | cogwheel|work | >>> function GetRandomArgument(...) return (select(math.random(select("#",...)), ...) end return GetRandomArgument("Hi", "Bye", "yoyo") |
| 20:21.10 | Cide | cogwheel|work: [string "function GetRandomArgument(...) return (select(math.random(sele..."]:1: ')' expected near 'end' |
| 20:21.11 | krka | Legorol: yes but only once :) |
| 20:21.11 | Legorol | i prefer eightball("one", "two") |
| 20:21.23 | Legorol | you can always do eightball(unpack(t)) |
| 20:21.28 | raevanmorlock | Tables are like toilet paper.. they're there, but you don't really use them! |
| 20:21.29 | Legorol | and have your one table |
| 20:21.34 | Davey2 | mm i forgot even how to do saved variables |
| 20:21.35 | Davey2 | :( |
| 20:21.43 | cogwheel|work | >>> function GetRandomArgument(...) return (select(math.random((select("#",...))), ...)) end return GetRandomArgument("Hi", "Bye", "yoyo") |
| 20:21.44 | Cide | cogwheel|work: "Bye" |
| 20:21.44 | Cide | www.wowwiki.com :) |
| 20:21.45 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: Just list them in your TOC |
| 20:21.46 | cogwheel|work | >>> function GetRandomArgument(...) return (select(math.random((select("#",...))), ...)) end return GetRandomArgument("Hi", "Bye", "yoyo") |
| 20:21.47 | Cide | cogwheel|work: "Bye" |
| 20:21.47 | krka | the point is to avoid the inefficiency of select |
| 20:21.49 | cogwheel|work | >>> function GetRandomArgument(...) return (select(math.random((select("#",...))), ...)) end return GetRandomArgument("Hi", "Bye", "yoyo") |
| 20:21.49 | Cide | cogwheel|work: "Bye" |
| 20:21.55 | Legorol | btw, i have a proposal |
| 20:21.56 | cogwheel|work | >>> function GetRandomArgument(...) return (select(math.random((select("#",...))), ...)) end return GetRandomArgument("Hi", "Bye", "yoyo") |
| 20:21.56 | Cide | cogwheel|work: "Bye" |
| 20:22.00 | cogwheel|work | grr |
| 20:22.01 | Cide | hmm |
| 20:22.03 | Cide | did it bork again? |
| 20:22.03 | Legorol | create a channel called Cide-bot |
| 20:22.06 | Shirik | Cide: How are you seeding? |
| 20:22.07 | Legorol | and put your bot in there |
| 20:22.15 | krka | i'm gonna ignore cide and cogwheel soon |
| 20:22.19 | Legorol | lol |
| 20:22.22 | krka | as well as anyone else that abuses the bot |
| 20:22.24 | Cide | "... math.randomseed(%f) ..." % time.time() |
| 20:22.24 | Davey2 | i mean using them to create like a table |
| 20:22.32 | raevanmorlock | You don't need a channel.. just whisper the commands |
| 20:22.34 | cogwheel|work | anyway, that's how GetRandomArgument is implemented. It's in ChatFrame.lua |
| 20:22.37 | Davey2 | sort of like an Array in PHP |
| 20:22.39 | Legorol | >>> return "ignore-me-krka!" |
| 20:22.39 | Cide | Legorol: "ignore-me-krka!" |
| 20:22.42 | Shirik | chanks cogwheel|work |
| 20:22.43 | Legorol | that's my anti-stalker measure |
| 20:22.43 | TC-Working | ~abuse cide |
| 20:22.45 | purl | ACTION smacks cide across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 20:22.45 | Shirik | thanks* |
| 20:23.08 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: Still works the same way |
| 20:23.14 | Shirik | so then GetRandomArgument does in fact return multiple arguments |
| 20:23.19 | Shirik | just so happens we always grab the first |
| 20:23.20 | Legorol | aha, it's done in Lua |
| 20:23.22 | cogwheel|work | no it doesn't |
| 20:23.24 | Legorol | that explains why i'd never seen it |
| 20:23.29 | krka | 22:23:16 Ignoring ALL from cide |
| 20:23.29 | krka | 22:23:19 Ignoring ALL from Legorol |
| 20:23.29 | krka | 22:23:22 Ignoring ALL from cogwheel|work |
| 20:23.33 | Shirik | return (select(math.random((select("#",...))), ...)) |
| 20:23.33 | Legorol | nooooooo |
| 20:23.33 | Shirik | right? |
| 20:23.38 | cogwheel|work | yes. |
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| 20:23.42 | Legorol | someone tell krka please not to ignore me :( |
| 20:23.48 | raevanmorlock | If you have ## SavedVariables: t and then in your .lua file, do t = { 1, 2, 3, 4, 5} .. it'll save that table |
| 20:23.49 | Legorol | how can he stalk me if he ignores me? |
| 20:23.52 | Shirik | so say math.random gets 1 |
| 20:23.53 | cogwheel|work | the parentheses around the outside cut it down to the first return |
| 20:23.57 | Shirik | ah! |
| 20:24.07 | krka | Shirik: yes, that will work, but it involves several VARARG opcodes and function calls |
| 20:24.14 | krka | and select in general is semi slow |
| 20:24.23 | Davey2 | and how would i return 3 for example? |
| 20:24.27 | cogwheel|work | [13:16]<cogwheel|work>Shirik: just put () around it |
| 20:24.35 | Legorol | from what i heard, select is horribly slow |
| 20:24.35 | Davey2 | lol |
| 20:24.37 | Shirik | krka: What you're missing because cogwheel|work/legorol are currently ignored is that we're talking about how WoW implements it |
| 20:24.43 | krka | Davey2: "return 3"? |
| 20:24.55 | Davey2 | yeah from the proposed example |
| 20:24.56 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: return t[3] |
| 20:24.59 | Legorol | because select('#',...) works by making a copy of ALL arguments |
| 20:25.13 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: LUA table indeces start at 1 |
| 20:25.25 | Legorol | raevanmorlock: not entirely exact |
| 20:25.27 | Shirik | Legorol: That's a very bad argument to make |
| 20:25.33 | Legorol | Lua table indices start wherever you want them to start |
| 20:25.37 | Legorol | they have no inheret indexing |
| 20:25.39 | Shirik | Considering you're doing the same thing by making a table with all arguments |
| 20:25.42 | Shirik | and then some.. |
| 20:25.52 | cogwheel|work | now wait... I didn't use the bot after krka threatened ignoring and yet he ignored me? |
| 20:25.59 | Davey2 | so if t = { 7, 8, 9 } |
| 20:26.00 | Shirik | lol I think so >< |
| 20:26.01 | Legorol | yeah, he is a meanie |
| 20:26.05 | Davey2 | t[2] = 8 ? |
| 20:26.09 | kergoth | Legorol, but there are areas of the standard lua library that make the assumption. the language itself doesnt inherently, but the library does |
| 20:26.11 | Shirik | Davey2: Correct |
| 20:26.15 | Davey2 | okay |
| 20:26.23 | Legorol | kergoth: correct |
| 20:26.23 | Davey2 | sorry for the n00b questions guys. its been a while |
| 20:26.30 | Legorol | and it's not an assumption, it's a statement of fact ;-) |
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| 20:26.33 | cogwheel | krka: I didn't touch the bot after you threatened ignoring... why'd i get ignored anyway? :( |
| 20:26.50 | Legorol | you can still have t={ [0]="zero", [1]="one", [2]="two" } |
| 20:26.50 | cogwheel | besides, I *was* actually discussing something wow-related... |
| 20:26.51 | Davey2 | oh and how do i 'set' 8 to be 10 for example |
| 20:26.52 | krka | kergoth: i disagree... the table constructor assumes starting at 1 |
| 20:26.58 | Legorol | all that matters is how the API behaves |
| 20:27.07 | Legorol | that's a definition for the API though, not hte language |
| 20:27.08 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: t[2] = 10 |
| 20:27.15 | Terrifion | ;o |
| 20:27.20 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: You should really read up on tables :) |
| 20:27.22 | Davey2 | okay thanks. i think im settled for saved vars now |
| 20:27.37 | Davey2 | thats pretty much all i need to do - LOL |
| 20:27.42 | kergoth | krka, well, true, but only if you don't specify the indices. |
| 20:27.48 | krka | right |
| 20:28.07 | kergoth | theres a patch to switch it from 1 to 0, its like a 2 line change or something |
| 20:28.07 | Shirik | Davey2: Just remember, the size of {[0]="zero", [1]="one", [2]="two"} is two |
| 20:28.07 | krka | also the internal storage starts with 1 |
| 20:28.09 | Shirik | not three |
| 20:28.10 | Legorol | someone tell krka to unignore me so he doesn't repeat me |
| 20:28.15 | krka | the key [0] will always be stored in the hash part |
| 20:28.23 | raevanmorlock | Is there any way to get more than 16 colors in mIRC? |
| 20:28.25 | Shirik | thus, #{[0]="zero", [1]="one", [2]="two"} will return 2 |
| 20:28.29 | krka | and the length operator assumes starting at 1 |
| 20:28.31 | Shirik | for the reason krka just explaind |
| 20:28.48 | cogwheel | is krka's ignore immune to /nick changes? |
| 20:28.53 | Legorol | let's try! |
| 20:28.56 | Shirik | cogwheel: I think he's mentally ignoring you |
| 20:29.00 | krka | cogwheel: no, your new nick passed through |
| 20:29.08 | Legorolo | i am following suit |
| 20:29.13 | krka | i wonder if irssi has regexp ignore or something :) |
| 20:29.31 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 20:29.32 | krka | cog: spamming the channel :) |
| 20:29.38 | zenzelezz | I thought most people ignored by ident/hostmask, not nick |
| 20:29.46 | Iwontbeignored | but you ignored him straight after threatening to ignore |
| 20:29.50 | krka | yeah i could do that i guess |
| 20:29.52 | Iwontbeignored | even though he didn't spam after your warning |
| 20:30.04 | Shirik | zenzelezz: The lazy people (me) just type /ignore nick |
| 20:30.14 | Shirik | which results in the ignore of hostmask nick!*@* |
| 20:30.17 | Davey2 | you can do math on those right? |
| 20:30.18 | raevanmorlock | Being lazy is so much effort.. |
| 20:30.21 | krka | cool, irssi remembers the color of the person, even if he changes nick |
| 20:30.30 | Legorol | Davey2: what do you want to do math on? |
| 20:30.34 | Davey2 | for ie. t[2] = t[2] + 4; |
| 20:30.38 | Legorol | sure |
| 20:30.39 | Shirik | sure |
| 20:30.42 | raevanmorlock | sure |
| 20:30.45 | Shirik | or! |
| 20:30.46 | Davey2 | sweet that saves some bother too |
| 20:30.47 | krka | right, those are just values |
| 20:30.48 | cogwheel | you said ">i'm gonna ignore cide and cogwheel soon" All I said after that was "anyway, that's how GetRandomArgument is implemented. It's in ChatFrame.lua" and ">no it doesn't" |
| 20:30.49 | raevanmorlock | whore |
| 20:30.58 | krka | it's important to distinguish values from variables |
| 20:30.59 | Davey2 | or t[2] += 4? lol |
| 20:31.03 | Shirik | no |
| 20:31.05 | Shirik | that doesn't exist |
| 20:31.06 | Shirik | but this does: |
| 20:31.08 | krka | no += in lua |
| 20:31.12 | Davey2 | dang lol too much PHP lol |
| 20:31.16 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: There's none of those types of operators in LUA |
| 20:31.29 | Shirik | mtbl = {__add = function(tbl) tbl[2] = tbl[2] + 4; end} setmetatable(t, mtbl); t + t; |
| 20:31.37 | Shirik | yey for obfuscated code :D |
| 20:31.39 | raevanmorlock | Why not, you ask? Nobody knows! |
| 20:31.46 | krka | Shirik: that's kinda ugly :) |
| 20:31.50 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:31.51 | Davey2 | lol |
| 20:31.53 | Legorol | Shirik: how would that work? |
| 20:31.58 | Shirik | it would work perfectly |
| 20:32.01 | Shirik | it would add 4 to index 2 |
| 20:32.04 | Legorol | can you have an add meta with just one args? |
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| 20:32.10 | krka | Legorol: of course |
| 20:32.15 | krka | you can make one with 3 args if you want |
| 20:32.16 | Shirik | you can accept whatever arguments you want |
| 20:32.18 | Legorol | well yeah i see what you mean |
| 20:32.23 | Shirik | what it does is another story |
| 20:32.25 | Legorol | so it's enough to do t+x |
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| 20:32.48 | Legorol | krka: do you know which metamethod gets called if both sides of an operator have metatables? |
| 20:32.49 | raevanmorlock | abc |
| 20:32.58 | krka | __add = function(tbl, key) tbl[key] = tbl[key] + 1 return tbl[key] end |
| 20:32.58 | Cide | it's not too bad, I shut down the client manually that time though |
| 20:33.01 | raevanmorlock | >>> |
| 20:33.01 | Shirik | Legorol: I believe it's left-right |
| 20:33.09 | Legorol | e.g. setmetatable(a,t1) setmetatable(b,t2) a+b |
| 20:33.09 | krka | t + "the key" |
| 20:33.11 | Shirik | let's find out |
| 20:33.13 | krka | ta da! |
| 20:33.18 | krka | Legorol: the first one |
| 20:33.25 | Legorol | ok |
| 20:33.34 | Legorol | krka: it'd appear you unignored me |
| 20:33.36 | raevanmorlock | I think I broke my mIRC... my text box i s all right-aligned and things are flying all over the place |
| 20:33.41 | krka | a more interesting question would be how concat works |
| 20:33.49 | krka | since it can take any number of args |
| 20:34.01 | Legorol | huh? |
| 20:34.02 | raevanmorlock | concat only takes two args... |
| 20:34.04 | krka | t1 .. t2 .. t3 |
| 20:34.05 | Legorol | isn't it a binary operator? |
| 20:34.07 | krka | nope |
| 20:34.11 | Legorol | that's still just a binary operation, isn't it? |
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| 20:34.15 | krka | not really |
| 20:34.18 | Legorol | (t1..t2)..t3 |
| 20:34.19 | raevanmorlock | That's till binary.. it' sjust binary twice |
| 20:34.20 | krka | well, sometimes |
| 20:34.24 | krka | you're wrong :) |
| 20:34.27 | Legorol | wow |
| 20:34.29 | Legorol | i didn't know that |
| 20:34.33 | krka | lua compiles it |
| 20:34.37 | raevanmorlock | But the operator is there twice |
| 20:34.44 | krka | the opcodes uses 3 values: |
| 20:34.49 | Legorol | i presume that's some kind of optimization |
| 20:34.49 | krka | destination, start, length |
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| 20:34.54 | Cide | grrr |
| 20:35.02 | raevanmorlock | Problems, Cide? |
| 20:35.10 | Shirik | ~hug Cide |
| 20:35.12 | purl | ACTION hugs Cide |
| 20:35.23 | raevanmorlock | What's an editbox in mirc? |
| 20:35.30 | raevanmorlock | bleh |
| 20:35.30 | krka | stack[dest] = stack[start] .. [...] .. stack[start + length - 1] |
| 20:35.33 | krka | if that makes sense |
| 20:35.38 | Legorol | yes it does |
| 20:35.44 | krka | so, the question is: do you know how metatables work for concat? :) |
| 20:35.47 | foxlit | What if you don't know the length? |
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| 20:35.48 | Legorol | which makes sense, it gives huge optimisation |
| 20:35.55 | Legorol | you can call ... just once with all args on the stack, wow |
| 20:35.58 | krka | foxlit: the compiler always knows how many there are |
| 20:36.02 | Legorol | s/.../../ |
| 20:36.06 | krka | a .. b .. c <-- 3 |
| 20:36.08 | Cide | should hopefully be good now.... |
| 20:36.12 | krka | a .. b.. c .. d <-- 4 |
| 20:36.14 | Shirik | ~comfort Cide |
| 20:36.16 | purl | There, there, Cide. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:36.40 | krka | i suppose there's a limit of 250 or something |
| 20:36.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge raevanmorlock (i=raevanmo@ip70-162-70-30.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 20:36.45 | raevanmorlock | there we go |
| 20:36.52 | Legorol | krka: if we follow the same logic as with binary ops, it should try the first value's metatable, then the second, then the third |
| 20:36.56 | Legorol | until it finds one |
| 20:37.02 | krka | that's what i thought |
| 20:37.04 | krka | but it's wrong |
| 20:37.16 | Legorol | so how does it do it |
| 20:37.23 | krka | it goes from right to left |
| 20:37.31 | Legorol | *facepalm* |
| 20:37.36 | krka | not done! |
| 20:38.02 | krka | it first goes through all strings and numbers and concatenates those efficiently |
| 20:38.05 | Cide | raevanmorlock: doubt it works |
| 20:38.13 | raevanmorlock | Indeed it does not |
| 20:39.34 | Legorol | krka: hold a sec |
| 20:39.35 | Cide | like was mentioned a few days ago in here, you don't receive your own message from the server |
| 20:39.35 | raevanmorlock | Which is good because I don't know how to undo it |
| 20:39.35 | krka | if it stumbles upon something with a metatable, it performs __concat on two of the entries |
| 20:39.35 | Legorol | what do you mean by first going through them |
| 20:39.35 | Davey2 | possible to get your own player's faction? |
| 20:39.35 | krka | example |
| 20:39.35 | Davey2 | H or A |
| 20:39.35 | Legorol | you mean the compiler? |
| 20:39.35 | Shirik | Davey2: Player's faction? |
| 20:39.35 | Cide | your client simply outputs it on its own |
| 20:39.35 | Shirik | You |
| 20:39.35 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:39.35 | Shirik | yeah |
| 20:39.35 | krka | no, the virtual machine |
| 20:39.36 | krka | the compiler doesn't know the types |
| 20:39.36 | raevanmorlock | Cide: Yeah.. but the irc client could still be smart enough to process them anyhow |
| 20:39.36 | krka | it's possible it precomputes constant strings though |
| 20:39.36 | Shirik | Davey: please search wowwiki http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitFactionGroup |
| 20:39.36 | Cide | raevanmorlock: yep |
| 20:39.36 | Legorol | krka: ok so the values are on the stack, there is a concat opcode or some such (correct me if i'm wrong) |
| 20:39.36 | Legorol | does the VM first do the number/string concat, then look for metatables? |
| 20:39.46 | krka | "a" .. "b" .. "c" .. myTable .. "d" .. "e" .. "f" |
| 20:39.46 | Legorol | ok |
| 20:39.46 | krka | it will first concatenate "def" |
| 20:39.46 | krka | then it finds myTable |
| 20:39.51 | krka | so it calls __concat(myTable, "def") |
| 20:39.56 | Legorol | ah yeah i see why it has to be right-to-left |
| 20:39.58 | krka | and then goes to work on that result |
| 20:39.59 | Legorol | because of the stack |
| 20:40.02 | krka | exactly |
| 20:40.09 | Legorol | coudln't do that optimisation otherwise |
| 20:40.40 | Legorol | man i know too much about Lua's internals for my own good :/ |
| 20:40.43 | Shirik | I disagree with writing a line like that anyway |
| 20:40.48 | Shirik | it's ambiguous |
| 20:40.48 | Legorol | i bet it's wasting braincells |
| 20:40.49 | foxlit | So, question |
| 20:40.50 | krka | i think i still know more :) |
| 20:40.57 | Legorol | yes you do know a lot more |
| 20:41.02 | Legorol | i am still wasting *my* braincells |
| 20:41.08 | krka | Shirik: ambiguous? |
| 20:41.11 | krka | how do you mean? |
| 20:41.16 | krka | all fun things are waste of brain cells |
| 20:41.18 | foxlit | Frame:SetScript("Foo",function (self, ...) end) or Frame:SetScript("Foo",function(...) [self is defined by default] end) |
| 20:41.25 | Davey2 | thanks Shirik |
| 20:41.29 | Shirik | I would rather see it written as something like |
| 20:41.32 | Legorol | krka: true, beer is the best example, it outright kills them |
| 20:42.08 | Legorol | krka: which metamethod gets called in the case of tableA .. tableB? |
| 20:42.12 | Shirik | local s = "d".."e".."f"; local t = "a".."b".."c"; s = myTable..s; s = t..s; |
| 20:42.14 | Legorol | is it tableB's then? |
| 20:42.22 | Shirik | but it's a personal preference |
| 20:42.33 | Legorol | that could be confusing, considering that with + it'd be tableA |
| 20:42.43 | krka | the left one i think |
| 20:42.45 | krka | but i am not sure |
| 20:43.01 | Davey2 | and although it doesn't say, does UnitFactionGroup return Horde Alliance in string or 0 1? |
| 20:43.04 | Cide | ok, random seeding should work now |
| 20:43.15 | Legorol | krka: since you can have tableA..tableB..tableC, it'd be interesting to know |
| 20:43.21 | krka | Shirik: that's less efficient :) |
| 20:43.24 | Davey2 | am assuming string, due to localizedFaction |
| 20:43.31 | Legorol | if it's right-to-left but looking for metas left-to-right, tableB's would be used first |
| 20:43.31 | foxlit | two strings |
| 20:43.39 | Legorol | which is amusing to say the least |
| 20:43.40 | kergoth | foxlit, self will be passed to the function, and the self argument isnt implicit in a function definition unless you use the : syntax, so you want the former version |
| 20:43.43 | Shirik | krka: Yes, but sometimes giving up a tiny bit of efficiency is beneficial to the whole |
| 20:43.52 | foxlit | "Alliance", "Alliance" on enUS (enGB) |
| 20:43.55 | Shirik | btw |
| 20:43.59 | Shirik | the answer to the question, Legorol |
| 20:43.59 | krka | Legorol: that'd boil down to: tableA:__concat(tableB:__concat(tableC)) |
| 20:44.09 | Shirik | The metamethod of the first table is called |
| 20:44.32 | Shirik | (i.e., the left one) |
| 20:45.15 | krka | i think i'll finish up on concat tomorrow |
| 20:45.22 | krka | lots of silly things to consider |
| 20:45.34 | cogwheel|work | 'cause krka unjustly ignored everyone :P |
| 20:45.41 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:45.51 | [dRaCo] | 'cos you didn't finish your flight addon yet, shirik! |
| 20:45.55 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:46.05 | krka | i am surprised at the impact of my short ignores |
| 20:46.20 | krka | must mean that people really want me to read what they write |
| 20:46.23 | cogwheel|work | well it announces being ignored but not being unignored :P |
| 20:46.30 | Legorol | hm, does any SciTe guru know how i could make it use lua 5.1? |
| 20:46.35 | Shirik | krka: It's because we all love you :D |
| 20:46.46 | cogwheel|work | Legorol: what do you mean by "use"? |
| 20:46.48 | krka | unjustly! |
| 20:46.54 | Shirik | unjustly love you? |
| 20:46.57 | krka | yes |
| 20:47.08 | Legorol | so that i can execute lua files and it'd be done with 5.1 instead of its in-built Lua interpreter |
| 20:47.28 | cogwheel|work | it's not built in iirc... it's actually an executable somewhere in its install path... |
| 20:47.34 | Shirik | yeah, was about to say that |
| 20:47.48 | Legorol | cogwheel|work: i'm pretty sure it has an embedded lua interpreter |
| 20:47.52 | Legorol | let me check |
| 20:48.05 | Shirik | Legorol: I'm looking at it right now |
| 20:48.10 | Shirik | lua and luac are both in the bin folder of scite |
| 20:48.11 | cogwheel|work | C:\Program Files\SciTE-WOWInterface\bin\lua.exe |
| 20:48.12 | Legorol | me too |
| 20:48.21 | Legorol | not for me |
| 20:48.25 | Shirik | :/ |
| 20:48.26 | Legorol | i am not using wowi-scite |
| 20:48.31 | Legorol | i am using the standard distro |
| 20:48.43 | Legorol | well a slightly different one but close to it |
| 20:48.44 | cogwheel|work | heretic |
| 20:48.47 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 20:48.49 | krka | compile your own then lego |
| 20:49.01 | Legorol | i guess i have to make it execute .lua files externally |
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| 20:49.29 | Legorol | can one of you check what the command.go line in lua.properties say? |
| 20:49.43 | cogwheel|work | command.go.*.lua=bin\lua.exe -l "$(SciteDefaultHome)\lib\wow.lua" "$(FileNameExt)" |
| 20:49.46 | raevanmorlock | command.go.*.lua=bin\lua.exe -l "$(SciteDefaultHome)\lib\wow.lua" "$(FileNameExt)" |
| 20:49.48 | raevanmorlock | damn! |
| 20:49.49 | Legorol | right, that's what i needed |
| 20:49.50 | Shirik | # Lua 5.0 |
| 20:49.50 | Shirik | command.go.*.lua=$(SciteDefaultHome)\bin\Lua.exe "$(FileNameExt)" |
| 20:49.52 | krka | command.go.*.lua=bin\lua.exe -l "$(SciteDefaultHome)\lib\wow.lua" "$(FileNameExt)" |
| 20:50.12 | Shirik | heh |
| 20:50.16 | Shirik | we all have different answers >< |
| 20:50.16 | Legorol | thanks |
| 20:50.16 | Shirik | great |
| 20:50.21 | krka | i feel the entropy in this channel go down |
| 20:50.21 | Legorol | no it's all the same |
| 20:50.23 | Shirik | no wait, just I do |
| 20:50.27 | Shirik | I lose :( |
| 20:50.37 | Legorol | mine is even more different |
| 20:50.40 | krka | i actually just copy pasted, because i thought were playing a game :( |
| 20:50.40 | Legorol | command.go.*.lua=dofile $(FileNameExt) |
| 20:50.42 | cogwheel|work | if you use http://sf.net/projects/lua511wow for your executable, you don't need wow.lua :) |
| 20:50.46 | Legorol | so mine uses the internal one |
| 20:51.14 | raevanmorlock | what's the command to show my ignore list? |
| 20:51.19 | raevanmorlock | in irc |
| 20:51.26 | Legorol | it would be interesting to know which version of what is cogwheel|work and krka using, as opposed to Shirik |
| 20:51.29 | Legorol | and raevanmorlock |
| 20:51.36 | [dRaCo] | depends on your client :þ |
| 20:51.49 | [dRaCo] | for mirc, it's /ignore -l |
| 20:51.53 | raevanmorlock | mirc |
| 20:52.35 | raevanmorlock | thank ya |
| 20:52.35 | Legorol | cogwheel|work, raevanmorlock and krka, are you guys using wowi-scite from wowi? |
| 20:52.35 | Legorol | Shirik: which one are you using? |
| 20:52.36 | krka | read my previous line |
| 20:52.36 | cogwheel|work | I'm using SciTE-WoWInterface downloaded on 4/2/07 |
| 20:52.36 | raevanmorlock | I was doing /ignore -raevanmorlock!*@* to try to remove myself and, for some reason, it was showing my ignore list then |
| 20:52.36 | raevanmorlock | Legorol: I think I am |
| 20:52.41 | Shirik | Legorol: Um... I haven't the slightest clue |
| 20:52.45 | Shirik | I downloaded it so long ago |
| 20:52.47 | Legorol | krka: i dont' read your lines, why should i |
| 20:52.50 | Legorol | (got lost in the rubble |
| 20:53.00 | [dRaCo] | prolly because the l is the first recognized parameter |
| 20:54.17 | Legorol | awesome guys, thanks for the help |
| 20:54.17 | krka | time to sleep |
| 20:54.23 | Legorol | i can now use an external interpreter |
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| 20:55.22 | raevanmorlock | You shut your piehole! |
| 20:55.42 | Cide | Legorol: if I were to create such a "saved variables" table for the bot.... |
| 20:55.56 | Cide | I'd have to create a serializer for normal values |
| 20:56.08 | Cide | but then comes the problem with chunks... |
| 20:56.17 | Cide | can they be serialized? |
| 20:56.17 | raevanmorlock | What'd Alice eat in order to shrink? |
| 20:56.28 | Cide | (I imagine they can) |
| 20:56.37 | kergoth | you can dump a function in such a form that you can loadstring it back, iirc |
| 20:56.47 | Cide | raevanmorlock: actually, she just used a World Enlarger |
| 20:56.54 | Cide | common misconception. |
| 20:57.09 | raevanmorlock | That doesn't sound right.. |
| 20:58.03 | krka | you can extract a prototype from a function with dumpstring |
| 20:58.12 | kergoth | test realm character copy page is stuck at 'loading'. anyone else seeing that? |
| 20:58.14 | Legorol | krka: i just tried, a..b..c does do a.concat(a,b.concat(b,c)) |
| 20:58.22 | Legorol | similarly for a..b..c..d |
| 20:58.25 | krka | that's what i said, wasn't it? :) |
| 20:58.28 | Legorol | yes |
| 20:58.32 | krka | yay me |
| 20:58.33 | Legorol | but i thought you were guessing |
| 20:58.38 | krka | i was :) |
| 20:58.45 | krka | just confirming that my guess was correct |
| 20:58.55 | Legorol | you are guesstimental |
| 20:59.05 | krka | thus establishing my guessing awesomeness |
| 20:59.06 | Cide | krka, kergoth: do you know how? |
| 20:59.11 | Davey2 | Can you have draws in battlegrounds? |
| 20:59.23 | Legorol | Cide: what's the question? |
| 20:59.33 | krka | dumpstring(f), i guess |
| 20:59.37 | Cide | Legorol: I need to serialize a chunk into a string so that I can loadstring it back |
| 20:59.37 | kergoth | pretty sure its string.dump() |
| 20:59.45 | krka | or that |
| 20:59.52 | kergoth | "Returns a string containing a binary representation of the given function, so that a later loadstring on this string returns a copy of the function. function must be a Lua function without upvalues." |
| 21:00.31 | kergoth | wonder if it errors if it has upvalues, or if the upvalues will just be nil |
| 21:00.39 | krka | good question :) |
| 21:00.41 | Legorol | Cide: it's string.dump |
| 21:00.48 | Cide | hm |
| 21:00.56 | Cide | ok, so now I just need a serializer |
| 21:01.11 | Legorol | function f() |
| 21:01.11 | Legorol | print("hello world!") |
| 21:01.11 | Legorol | end |
| 21:01.11 | Legorol | t=string.dump(f) |
| 21:01.11 | Legorol | loadstring(t)() |
| 21:01.12 | kergoth | there are lots of serializers around. theres a couple decent ones on the lua users wiki |
| 21:01.24 | Cide | krka: didn't you create one? I seem to recall that |
| 21:01.40 | krka | > local a,b = 1,2 f = function() return a, b end |
| 21:01.40 | krka | > = f() |
| 21:01.40 | krka | 1 2 |
| 21:01.40 | krka | > s = string.dump(f) |
| 21:01.40 | krka | > f2 = loadstring(s) |
| 21:01.42 | krka | > = f2() |
| 21:01.45 | krka | nil nil |
| 21:01.47 | krka | > |
| 21:01.50 | kergoth | some can handle cycles, i wrote one long ago that did, though it wasnt as efficient an output as the one on the wiki |
| 21:01.55 | krka | so yes, it just sets the upvalues as nil |
| 21:01.57 | krka | good to know |
| 21:02.01 | kergoth | indeed |
| 21:02.06 | krka | Cide: yeah, you want it? |
| 21:02.18 | Legorol | Cide: how about you look at the code of devtools or others that can dump a (possibly-cyclic) table? |
| 21:02.21 | Legorol | wouldn't that do it? |
| 21:02.28 | Legorol | or ask krka indeeed :o) |
| 21:02.32 | Cide | krka: sure :) |
| 21:02.33 | krka | http://kristofer.no-ip.info/~krka/tmp/serialize.lua |
| 21:02.34 | Cide | hehe, Legorol |
| 21:03.06 | krka | not sure it handles all cases properly |
| 21:03.06 | krka | but it handles a few of them nicely |
| 21:03.06 | kergoth | i still think the finalized exceptions thingy on the lua users wiki was cool. not related to serializatoin, but just nifty nonetheless. |
| 21:03.13 | krka | Legorol: knock yourself out :) please mail me about any bugs you find |
| 21:03.18 | krka | since i am going to sleep now |
| 21:03.28 | Legorol | rofl @ zenzelezz and kergoth |
| 21:03.40 | Legorol | krka: i'm afraid i am getting old |
| 21:03.41 | krka | finally! |
| 21:03.43 | Legorol | i probably won't bother too much |
| 21:03.47 | Legorol | and good night to you |
| 21:03.59 | krka | i should have said "Oh no! please dont break my serialize" then |
| 21:04.19 | Legorol | no, you should've claimed it to be flawless |
| 21:04.25 | krka | it is :) |
| 21:04.29 | krka | i am jus modest |
| 21:04.30 | Legorol | riiight |
| 21:04.51 | krka | actually, it silently transforms functions and userdata -> nil |
| 21:04.56 | krka | other than that, it's flawless |
| 21:05.07 | cogwheel|work | krka: have you posted your vm anywhere? |
| 21:05.12 | krka | cogwheel|work: nope |
| 21:05.21 | krka | still not ready enough |
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| 21:05.31 | krka | i'll be sure to brag when it reaches alpha |
| 21:05.35 | krka | i.e. all features are in |
| 21:05.36 | cogwheel|work | :) |
| 21:06.04 | kergoth | its too bad you cant use newproxy to create a fully transparent proxy, since the table.* methods wont accept an argument of that type, regardless of whether it has the necessary metamethods |
| 21:06.06 | Legorol | anyhoo, i still have to look at that Fortran code, and you guys are distracting me |
| 21:06.34 | AnduinLothar | Sea.string.objectToString? |
| 21:06.39 | foxlit | You don't need to look at that Fortran code |
| 21:07.52 | AnduinLothar | Cide, what do you need serializing for? |
| 21:07.52 | Davey2 | i am hoping this is true |
| 21:07.58 | Davey2 | my saved var is BGStats |
| 21:08.03 | kergoth | AnduinLothar, he's adding persistant data to his lua bot dealy |
| 21:08.06 | Davey2 | if i used it for the first time |
| 21:08.25 | Davey2 | would BGStats[36] = BGStats[36] + 1 work? |
| 21:08.57 | [dRaCo] | in c/c++ it would ^^ |
| 21:09.19 | Davey2 | even though it had not created this element yet, would it treat BGStats[36] as 0 |
| 21:09.48 | Davey2 | therefore turning BGStats[36] into 1 |
| 21:09.58 | Davey2 | or would it fail? |
| 21:10.01 | kergoth | nil is not 0 |
| 21:10.02 | kergoth | nil is nil |
| 21:10.07 | kergoth | it will error the first time |
| 21:10.21 | Davey2 | so you need to create zero values |
| 21:10.32 | [dRaCo] | you could try to initialize the whole array with 0 when creating it |
| 21:10.48 | Davey2 | yea but i dont want to erase everything back to 0 |
| 21:10.53 | Davey2 | lol |
| 21:11.25 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 21:12.15 | clad|work | Cide: I have a good serialization routine that handles most cases rather gracefully |
| 21:12.17 | Davey2 | so how would i attempt to initialize the whole array with 0? |
| 21:12.21 | clad|work | I use it for LightHeaded's parsing scripts. |
| 21:12.29 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: metatables! |
| 21:12.39 | Cide | clad|work: does it preserve references? |
| 21:12.48 | clad|work | Cide: Internal references, no |
| 21:13.04 | clad|work | Its just a straightforward implementation, actually |
| 21:13.21 | cogwheel|work | setmetatable(BGStats, { __index = function(tbl, val) tbl[val] = 0; return 0 end } ) |
| 21:13.50 | foxlit | Use a defaults table that is merged into the SV table when addon is loaded |
| 21:14.10 | Davey2 | what is that cogwheel? |
| 21:14.12 | foxlit | Also, if you know the names of all elements in your SV table, you can remove any old junk that's stuck there |
| 21:14.17 | Shirik | Davey2: It's a metatable :D |
| 21:14.18 | Davey2 | \where do i put it |
| 21:14.22 | Davey2 | lol |
| 21:14.22 | Shirik | The coolest part of Lua |
| 21:14.29 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: right after you create the table |
| 21:14.49 | cogwheel|work | or you could even do: BGStats = setmetatable({}, { __index ...... |
| 21:15.26 | kergoth | i love that little feature, returning the table |
| 21:15.40 | cogwheel|work | though if it's a SavedVariable, you'll want to use the first method after the variables are loaded |
| 21:16.42 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: http://www.lua.org/pil/13.4.1.html |
| 21:16.47 | Davey2 | can i get an example with the saved variable please lol. i dont want to destroy my values |
| 21:16.52 | Davey2 | on the second load lol |
| 21:17.12 | Shirik | Davey2: so long as you're creating the values before the VARIABLES_LOADED event fires, it's not something you have to worry about |
| 21:17.20 | foxlit | SVs are basically wow-generated .lua files run after your addon code |
| 21:17.30 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: respond to the "VARIABLES_LOADED" event to set the metatable |
| 21:17.56 | Shirik | I guess I misunderstood the question :( |
| 21:18.29 | cogwheel|work | if he does setmetatable before the variables are loaded, it'll be wiped out because the SV constructs a new table |
| 21:18.42 | Shirik | yeah sorry, I just thought he wanted to create the table if it doesn't exist |
| 21:21.28 | Davey2 | im going to upload what i've done so far, with the metatable included |
| 21:21.56 | JoshBorke | metatables are for the weak |
| 21:21.57 | Davey2 | may someone please assert whether i've done it correctly? |
| 21:22.03 | JoshBorke | real men program in assembly |
| 21:23.01 | cogwheel|work | no... |
| 21:23.06 | raevanmorlock | What have you done in assembly lately, JoshBorke? |
| 21:23.06 | cogwheel|work | real men program in binary... |
| 21:23.09 | Davey2 | http://www.dgane.com/BGStats.zip |
| 21:23.12 | Shirik | I had to do that today :( |
| 21:23.14 | foxlit | meh |
| 21:23.17 | Shirik | well not binary, but s-records :( |
| 21:23.18 | Shirik | close enough |
| 21:23.18 | JoshBorke | raevanmorlock: your mom! OOO!!! |
| 21:23.23 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 21:23.24 | foxlit | real men execute code in brain |
| 21:23.43 | JoshBorke | <3 |
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| 21:26.03 | JoshBorke | raevanmorlock: who said i was a real man? :-P |
| 21:26.03 | Shirik | rofl |
| 21:26.03 | JoshBorke | i program in lua like all the other n00bs |
| 21:26.03 | raevanmorlock | You already made a reply.. you can't make another now! |
| 21:26.03 | JoshBorke | blast! foiled by logic! |
| 21:26.04 | JoshBorke | logic has no place in assembly |
| 21:26.04 | JoshBorke | it's the land of wavy magical things |
| 21:26.04 | raevanmorlock | Neither do you! OOOOO |
| 21:26.04 | JoshBorke | jump, branch, load |
| 21:26.04 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: why are you calling both functions in your event handler? |
| 21:26.04 | Shirik | mov ebx, eip; push eax; mov eip, ebx |
| 21:26.04 | Shirik | Easiest way to crash your computer :D |
| 21:26.04 | Davey2 | ? |
| 21:26.04 | cogwheel|work | you should be checking which event it is and then calling the functions based on that... |
| 21:26.04 | cogwheel|work | not just calling both functions regardless of which event was fired |
| 21:26.21 | Davey2 | how ya do that? lol |
| 21:26.29 | cogwheel|work | ... |
| 21:26.35 | Davey2 | lol |
| 21:26.42 | raevanmorlock | OnEvent(self, event) if event == "MY_COOL_EVENT" |
| 21:26.42 | Shirik | function MyAddon.OnEvent(event, ...) |
| 21:26.49 | Shirik | er, yeah |
| 21:26.57 | raevanmorlock | I win! |
| 21:27.04 | Davey2 | yea but in the XML file |
| 21:27.07 | Shirik | I would have been right if I hit : if I meant to :( |
| 21:27.11 | raevanmorlock | XML is for the weak! |
| 21:27.18 | Davey2 | under <OnEvent> |
| 21:27.18 | raevanmorlock | Shirik: haha :) |
| 21:27.20 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: just have your xml call a single onevent function |
| 21:27.27 | Davey2 | ahh |
| 21:27.28 | cogwheel|work | and check the event in that function |
| 21:28.33 | raevanmorlock | cogwheel|work: Would he have to use the globals then that way? |
| 21:28.54 | cogwheel|work | no... but i don't have enough energy to explain all that for the 3rd time in 2 days >< |
| 21:29.25 | cogwheel|work | WTB Thistle Tea |
| 21:29.56 | cogwheel|work | actually... |
| 21:30.17 | cogwheel|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Best_Practices |
| 21:30.23 | cogwheel|work | under section 2.1 |
| 21:30.46 | Davey2 | bit stuck on the function in <OnEvent> |
| 21:30.59 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: see the link :) |
| 21:31.05 | Davey2 | like what arguments to pass, or rather what they are called. lol |
| 21:31.10 | Shirik | cogwheel|work: Do you think I should edit that page to refer to namespaces? |
| 21:31.13 | cogwheel|work | ah |
| 21:31.34 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1#7 |
| 21:32.24 | cogwheel|work | Shirik: /shrug ... I just threw that up there one day 'cause there wasn't anything else like it on the wiki |
| 21:32.28 | Davey2 | so its just thus?: |
| 21:32.29 | Davey2 | <OnEvent> |
| 21:32.30 | Davey2 | BGStats_EventHandler(self, event); |
| 21:32.30 | Davey2 | </OnEvent> |
| 21:32.38 | cogwheel|work | don't forget ... if you have args |
| 21:32.49 | cogwheel|work | instead of arg1-arg9 it uses vararg |
| 21:32.49 | raevanmorlock | (self, event, ...)? |
| 21:32.58 | cogwheel|work | yes |
| 21:33.10 | Shirik | BGStats:EventHandler(event) |
| 21:33.11 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:33.45 | Shirik | I should make the wow window big enough so I can't see irc |
| 21:33.59 | raevanmorlock | You play WoW in a window? |
| 21:34.02 | TC-Working | i do |
| 21:34.12 | Shirik | I couldn't do anything otherwise |
| 21:34.14 | raevanmorlock | I only get 15 fps playing in fullscreen :-( |
| 21:34.14 | TC-Working | but then i have dual monitors so i can see everyhing as well |
| 21:34.16 | leethal | I play it in windowed mode, maximized, it wins |
| 21:34.24 | leethal | TC-Working: second that *grin* |
| 21:34.28 | TC-Working | yup |
| 21:34.35 | raevanmorlock | You guys and your dual monitors... you all suck! |
| 21:34.39 | Shirik | when I'm at home, I use maximized windowed, for dual monitors yes |
| 21:34.39 | TC-Working | heh |
| 21:34.48 | leethal | you can cursor out to firefox, which you have on the other monitor, without any cursoring-out-lag |
| 21:34.49 | raevanmorlock | And by that, I mean I'm terribly jealous and wish for your death |
| 21:34.56 | Shirik | here, I just run in windowed mode because I can't switch back and forth between anything |
| 21:35.06 | TC-Working | espesicaly with vent...i can never tell who is talking unless i look at it |
| 21:35.14 | Shirik | well I have a G15 for that :P |
| 21:35.24 | leethal | you can make windowed mode look just like full screen, in case those-that-doesn't-use-it didn't know |
| 21:35.25 | TC-Working | i have a G15 as well |
| 21:35.31 | Shirik | then... |
| 21:35.37 | Shirik | watch the LCD :P |
| 21:35.45 | TC-Working | id rather be watching my screen |
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| 21:35.57 | cogwheel|work | use an overlay program then |
| 21:35.59 | TC-Working | and i didnt know the lcd had a vent plugin |
| 21:36.09 | Shirik | you have to grab the beta version of ventrilo |
| 21:36.11 | Shirik | but yeah, it does |
| 21:36.14 | Shirik | it's built into the app |
| 21:36.22 | TC-Working | huh..cool |
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| 21:36.25 | Davey2 | so like this then? |
| 21:36.31 | Davey2 | http://www.dgane.com/BGStats.zip |
| 21:37.13 | cogwheel|work | yep |
| 21:37.32 | Davey2 | okay - sweet |
| 21:37.50 | Davey2 | and that metatable should work as laid out like that, right? |
| 21:38.10 | Davey2 | i guess i could try it but that would mean booting up wow :( /me lazy |
| 21:38.11 | Davey2 | lol |
| 21:38.11 | raevanmorlock | Metatables don't work.. they just are! |
| 21:38.25 | cogwheel|work | assuming the syntax is correct :P |
| 21:38.26 | zenzelezz | when you pass "..:" from OnEvent to the function, can you still catch it as "..."? |
| 21:38.34 | zenzelezz | *... |
| 21:38.46 | cogwheel|work | zenzelezz: what makes you think there's something special about it? :P |
| 21:38.54 | cogwheel|work | Lua is Lua |
| 21:39.07 | raevanmorlock | That's lua in XML though.. where's it even defined at? |
| 21:39.08 | zenzelezz | since the wiki you linked names only two arguments instead of ... |
| 21:39.12 | raevanmorlock | There's no function paramter list there |
| 21:39.13 | zenzelezz | and I'm not good with lua |
| 21:39.28 | Shirik | zenzelezz: The only thing you have to remember is ... can't be an upvalue |
| 21:39.30 | Shirik | like |
| 21:39.36 | Shirik | eh, that's not right |
| 21:39.39 | Shirik | like you can't do this |
| 21:39.47 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: that's what http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=64187212&sid=1#7 is for |
| 21:39.56 | Shirik | function foo(...) return function() return ...; end end |
| 21:39.58 | Shirik | that is illegal |
| 21:40.27 | raevanmorlock | function foo(...) return function(...) return ...; end end ? |
| 21:40.32 | kergoth | i hate that. i wish lua had a real immutable tuple type, or a way to name ... |
| 21:40.34 | Davey2 | okay on loading it up |
| 21:40.36 | Davey2 | i got this |
| 21:40.36 | Davey2 | Interface\AddOns\BGStats\BGStats.lua:24: bad argument #1 to 'setmetatable' (table expected, got nil) |
| 21:40.45 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: that doesn't mean the same thing |
| 21:40.48 | Shirik | >>> function foo(...) return function() return ...; end end; f = foo(1,2,3); return f(); |
| 21:40.48 | Cide | Shirik: [string "function foo(...) return function() return ...; end end; f = fo..."]:1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 21:40.56 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: That's tot the same |
| 21:40.59 | Shirik | not* |
| 21:41.23 | raevanmorlock | That wouldn't pass the ... to the sub-function so that it could return it? |
| 21:41.33 | pastamancer | no, ... is special |
| 21:41.34 | Shirik | Yours returns a function which returns what is passed in |
| 21:41.46 | Shirik | Mine returns a closure which (would) return what it was initially constructed with |
| 21:42.11 | Shirik | yours you would have to call with f(1,2,3) |
| 21:42.13 | Shirik | mine you call with f() |
| 21:42.20 | Shirik | after doing f = foo(1,2,3) |
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| 21:42.26 | Davey2 | and line 24 is; |
| 21:42.26 | Davey2 | setmetatable(BGStats, { __index = function(tbl, val) tbl[val] = 0; return 0 end } ); |
| 21:42.46 | kergoth | rici had a patch once that added a tuple type and made vararg functions construct one.. a bit heavier than the current version, but more flexible |
| 21:42.53 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:43.17 | pastamancer | >>> function f(...) local t = {...} return function () return unpack(t) end end x = f("t") return x() |
| 21:43.17 | Cide | pastamancer: "t" |
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| 21:43.37 | Shirik | aye, that's how you'd have to do it |
| 21:43.46 | pastamancer | it makes me feel dirty |
| 21:43.49 | Shirik | hehe |
| 21:44.01 | kergoth | defeats the purpose, you could have captured the values in a table without the function call at all |
| 21:44.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:44.05 | raevanmorlock | By the power of Grayskull! |
| 21:44.23 | pastamancer | of course |
| 21:45.13 | Davey2 | cogwheel why did it give me that error? :P |
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| 21:45.49 | cogwheel|work | because you haven't created the BGStats table yet |
| 21:45.53 | Shirik | Davey2: Because the table doesn't exist |
| 21:45.56 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 21:46.02 | Shirik | I give up, cogwheel|work answers all the questions now |
| 21:46.26 | cogwheel|work | Change it to setmetatable(BGStats or {}, { __index = ..... |
| 21:46.56 | Davey2 | oh i thought it would create it for me. okay |
| 21:46.58 | kergoth | or just BGStats = setmetatable({}, blahblah) like it was suggested earlier |
| 21:47.06 | cogwheel|work | kergoth: no |
| 21:47.15 | cogwheel|work | that would wipe out saved variables |
| 21:47.32 | kergoth | ahh, my mistake, didnt realize that was his savedvar |
| 21:47.35 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 21:48.14 | kergoth | i hate being at work with nothing to work on. |
| 21:48.19 | raevanmorlock | if not BGStats then BGStats = {} |
| 21:48.23 | raevanmorlock | end |
| 21:49.06 | Shirik | or do |
| 21:49.10 | kergoth | cogwheel|work, he'd want a BGStats = setmetatable(BGStats or {}, blahblah) if he was gonna do it that way |
| 21:49.11 | Shirik | BGStats = BGStats or {} |
| 21:49.16 | raevanmorlock | SavedVars aren't created for you because WoW doesn't know what they should be |
| 21:49.18 | kergoth | <3 lua |
| 21:49.19 | cogwheel|work | kergoth: right |
| 21:49.48 | raevanmorlock | But after you create them, WoW saves them adn reloads them next time |
| 21:50.42 | kergoth | course he'd better be doing that setmetatable after the ADDON_LOADED :) |
| 21:50.51 | kergoth | purl, entertain me |
| 21:51.03 | purl | ACTION grabs 5 random objects and begins to weave them through the air in a display of superior juggling skill for kergoth's entertainment whilst whistling Einzug der Gladiatoren by Julius Fu?ík |
| 21:51.03 | cogwheel|work | kergoth: scroll up :P |
| 21:51.14 | kergoth | ah, right :) |
| 21:51.16 | cogwheel|work | if he does that, then when the SV loads it'll wipe out the metatable because the SV constructs a brand new table |
| 21:51.17 | kergoth | ~emulate fry |
| 21:51.18 | purl | Words. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears. |
| 21:51.55 | raevanmorlock | Hrmm... Futurama? |
| 21:52.10 | kergoth | thats what i said, he'd better be doing it after his addon's savedvars are loaded. i just didnt realize it had already been covered |
| 21:52.11 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:52.15 | kergoth | ~emulate bender |
| 21:52.16 | purl | Well I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk! |
| 21:52.25 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 21:52.54 | kergoth | good plan, thanks bender |
| 21:53.10 | raevanmorlock | ~emulate nibbler |
| 21:53.20 | cogwheel|work | kergoth: ah... so it was a case of s/ADDON_LOADED/VARIABLES_LOADED/ then :P |
| 21:53.52 | kergoth | hm? last i checked, ADDON_LOADED isnt fired until after that addon's vars have been loaded. |
| 21:54.11 | raevanmorlock | But you have to make sure that the addon being loaded is yours |
| 21:54.16 | kergoth | naturally |
| 21:54.24 | cogwheel|work | VARIABLES_LOADED doesn't have that caveat |
| 21:54.32 | Shadowed | ~lart Industrial |
| 21:54.32 | purl | farts in Industrial's general direction |
| 21:54.55 | Industrial | ew, purl :-((( |
| 21:55.02 | kergoth | i prefer ADDON_LOADED, since then the addon can be made LoD and used with one of the various LoD loaders without modification, but its just personal preference, we're all on the same page here |
| 21:55.03 | TC-Working | heh |
| 21:55.05 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:55.09 | kergoth | ~rinsult |
| 21:55.39 | TC-Working | rinsult? |
| 21:55.39 | Industrial | ~retort |
| 21:55.43 | Industrial | ? |
| 21:55.43 | Shadowed | return insult |
| 21:55.43 | kergoth | random |
| 21:55.43 | Shadowed | or that |
| 21:55.43 | TC-Working | oh |
| 21:55.43 | kergoth | was supposed to be, anyway |
| 21:55.43 | leethal | I prefer the :Enabled() in Dongle |
| 21:55.43 | kergoth | ~rlart |
| 21:55.45 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on gnorlish |
| 21:55.45 | Shadowed | It's Enable =p |
| 21:55.45 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 21:55.47 | Shadowed | Which is fired at PLAYER_LOGIN anyway |
| 21:55.47 | TC-Working | you have to lart someone |
| 21:55.47 | kergoth | there we are |
| 21:55.47 | kergoth | just lagged |
| 21:55.50 | JoshBorke | ~lart TC-Working |
| 21:55.50 | purl | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps TC-Working |
| 21:55.55 | JoshBorke | like that? |
| 21:55.56 | TC-Working | heh |
| 21:56.07 | kergoth | ~literal rlart |
| 21:56.09 | purl | "rlart" is "<reply> see lart $randnick" |
| 21:56.10 | TC-Working | ~flay JoshBorke |
| 21:56.12 | Industrial | wha-pah! (anyone knowing the reference gets a cookie) |
| 21:56.14 | kergoth | ~factinfo rlart |
| 21:56.14 | purl | rlart -- created by BZFlag <timr@rikers.org> at Mon Dec 9 22:10:37 2002 (1596 days); it has been requested 1100 times, last by kergoth, 29s ago. |
| 21:56.24 | JoshBorke | batman obviously |
| 21:56.29 | Industrial | nu-uh |
| 21:56.57 | raevanmorlock | Reference to what? |
| 21:57.04 | kergoth | ~emualte chris |
| 21:57.11 | kergoth | boo |
| 21:57.13 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 21:57.15 | purl | I never knew anyone who went crazy before, except for my invisible friend, Col. Schwartz. |
| 21:57.18 | foxlit | How is it you make things inherit from multiple sources again? |
| 21:57.23 | foxlit | inherits="foo,bar" ? |
| 21:57.27 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 21:57.28 | foxlit | (XML) |
| 21:57.30 | Tem | What wrong with you? I say you he dead! |
| 21:57.49 | Shirik | foxlit: correct |
| 21:58.08 | Shadowed | It's he same for CreateFrame too |
| 21:58.09 | raevanmorlock | Wow.. google has alot of hits for different uses of the term "sausage-snorfling" |
| 21:58.11 | Shadowed | s/he/the/ |
| 21:58.16 | foxlit | Does foo or bar take precedence? |
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| 21:58.16 | kergoth | That was then and this is now. And this is a chair. And that's a lamp. And you have boobies. And I'm gonna find that trophie. |
| 21:58.24 | kergoth | s/ie.$/y./ |
| 21:58.25 | Shadowed | It's loaded from left to right order I beleive? |
| 21:58.30 | Industrial | raevanmorlock, JoshBorke; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXbzjnffAo |
| 21:58.31 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 21:58.33 | foxlit | So right overrides left. Okay. |
| 21:58.44 | Shadowed | believe even |
| 21:59.21 | raevanmorlock | Woo-pa! .. I love Friends |
| 21:59.50 | raevanmorlock | foxlit: yeah.. it just does it in order. It inherits from the first thing, then the next, etc.. |
| 21:59.51 | TC-Working | ~sad |
| 21:59.53 | purl | ACTION looks at tc-working 'I wonder why tc-working looks so sad' |
| 22:00.14 | raevanmorlock | Did you lose your weiner? |
| 22:00.16 | TC-Working | because i just saw a segment of friends purl, thats why |
| 22:00.27 | raevanmorlock | Friends is not saddening! |
| 22:00.42 | TC-Working | your right...it's more like bone crushing dispair |
| 22:00.53 | Tem | Seinfeld > Friends |
| 22:00.57 | raevanmorlock | Losing your weiner is bone-crushing dispair! |
| 22:01.00 | raevanmorlock | Friends is hilarious |
| 22:01.04 | Tem | agreed |
| 22:01.14 | cogwheel|work | Battlestar Galactica > both |
| 22:01.24 | zenzelezz | I find your lack of faith disturbing |
| 22:01.26 | TC-Working | well, loosing your weiner is halirous for others |
| 22:01.32 | raevanmorlock | Scrubs > Anything |
| 22:01.41 | TC-Working | losing* |
| 22:01.44 | cogwheel|work | The Office > Scrubs :P |
| 22:01.50 | Corrodias | i find your lack of lupus disturbing |
| 22:01.54 | zenzelezz | US or UK The Office? |
| 22:01.56 | raevanmorlock | NOTHING is better than Scrubs |
| 22:02.03 | cogwheel|work | never seen UK office... |
| 22:02.06 | zenzelezz | heathen |
| 22:02.08 | Tem | select * from shows where quality > "Seinfeld" |
| 22:02.15 | Tem | 0 rows returned |
| 22:02.16 | zenzelezz | Too many results. |
| 22:02.17 | leethal | Tem: NULL! |
| 22:02.33 | Davey2 | uh, i thought it was supposed to create that table and set the values to 0 |
| 22:03.04 | Corrodias | can you perform mathematical comparison on strings in SQL? |
| 22:03.04 | Tem | cogwheel|work, the UK office is HIGH-DAMN-LARIOUS |
| 22:03.09 | cogwheel|work | no... it just makes it so any time you access a key that hasn't been set, it returns 0 |
| 22:03.13 | raevanmorlock | Dammit another random phone call |
| 22:03.14 | Tem | the US version is teh suck |
| 22:03.22 | Shirik | Corrodias: Not that I'm aware of |
| 22:03.30 | Davey2 | Interface\AddOns\BGStats\BGStats.lua:7:attempt to index global 'BGStats' (a nil value) |
| 22:03.33 | Tem | Corrodias, hell if I know |
| 22:03.35 | Tem | I've never used SQL |
| 22:03.43 | Shirik | Let's find out... |
| 22:04.05 | Davey2 | line 7 is; |
| 22:04.06 | Davey2 | overall = string.format("Played: %s\nWins: %s\nLosses: %s\nHonorable Kills: %s\nHonor Gained: %s\nDeaths: %s\nKilling Blows: %s\nDamage Done: %s\nHealing Done: %s", BGStats[1], BGStats[2], BGStats[3], BGStats[4], BGStats[5], BGStats[6], BGStats[7], BGStats[8], BGStats[9]); |
| 22:04.25 | cogwheel|work | You haven't created BGStats |
| 22:04.27 | cogwheel|work | at all |
| 22:04.34 | foxlit | Why don't you use names rather than numbers? |
| 22:04.34 | raevanmorlock | And another call from Wilmington, DE .. but using Verizon this time. Wtf? |
| 22:04.38 | cogwheel|work | it's not a matter of BGStats[4] not being there |
| 22:04.41 | Corrodias | select title from shows where quality > select quality from shows where title like 'Seinfeld' |
| 22:04.55 | Davey2 | shorter fox |
| 22:04.59 | foxlit | BGStats.totalHonorGained is better than BGstats[2349238420938423904] |
| 22:05.06 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: shorter ~= better |
| 22:05.13 | foxlit | You'll be kicking yourself in the butt if you ever have to maintain that code |
| 22:05.17 | cogwheel|work | lern2writemaintainablecode |
| 22:05.18 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 22:05.33 | Davey2 | lol |
| 22:05.52 | Shirik | Corrodias: mysql> SELECT 1 FROM ghq_applogs WHERE "A" > "B"; |
| 22:05.52 | Shirik | Empty set (0.13 sec) |
| 22:06.13 | Shirik | mysql> SELECT 1 FROM ghq_applogs WHERE "A" > 2; |
| 22:06.13 | Shirik | Empty set, 1 warning (0.11 sec) |
| 22:06.14 | Davey2 | so i put BGStats = {} at the beginning of BGStats.lua ? |
| 22:06.20 | raevanmorlock | These guys don't know what they're talking about.. all my variables are just different numbers of underscores and my code is perfeclty maintainable |
| 22:06.23 | Corrodias | ah... ok |
| 22:06.36 | Shirik | It throws a warning it appears if you're using different types, but still legal |
| 22:06.41 | raevanmorlock | Davey2: BGStats = BGStats or {} |
| 22:06.46 | raevanmorlock | That way, it won't override the saved vars |
| 22:06.49 | Davey2 | ah |
| 22:07.00 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: you shouldn't be accessing BGStats before VARIABLES_LOADED in the first place |
| 22:07.11 | Shirik | The warning was: | Warning | 1292 | Truncated incorrect DOUBLE value: 'A' | |
| 22:07.42 | Davey2 | okay so listening for the VARIABLES_LOADED would i put it before or after the metatable() |
| 22:07.52 | raevanmorlock | Why is a pest control company in Wilmington Delware calling me? |
| 22:07.55 | Davey2 | setmetatable() even |
| 22:08.03 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: Obviously to get rid of pests |
| 22:08.47 | raevanmorlock | But I'm in Arizona |
| 22:08.47 | raevanmorlock | And he soudned creepy |
| 22:08.47 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: pastey your lua file as it is now |
| 22:08.50 | zenzelezz | raevanmorlock: do you know anyone in Wilmington, Delaware that might want to get rid of you? |
| 22:09.01 | Shirik | ouch.. |
| 22:09.02 | raevanmorlock | Nope.. never been there |
| 22:09.04 | Davey2 | ok as it was when i got the error on line 7 |
| 22:09.11 | cogwheel|work | yes |
| 22:09.21 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: They're obviously very determined to rid the world of pests |
| 22:09.26 | AnduinLothar | What was the name of and who was workign on that peer to peer wiki database WoW addon? |
| 22:09.33 | Davey2 | http://wowi.pastey.net/16707 |
| 22:09.47 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: me probably |
| 22:09.52 | raevanmorlock | WoW addons can't have p2p communication |
| 22:10.02 | foxlit | Why not? |
| 22:10.05 | JoshBorke | AnduinLothar: Guildbook |
| 22:10.14 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: is LoadText called from the XML? |
| 22:10.15 | AnduinLothar | ya, did it ever go anywhere josh? |
| 22:10.29 | JoshBorke | not really, i ran into difficulty testing and then i got tired of it |
| 22:10.34 | JoshBorke | it seemed too large a problem for me to solve |
| 22:10.37 | raevanmorlock | Because I says so! |
| 22:10.43 | Davey2 | yes |
| 22:10.44 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: also, as discussed above :P you should add "BGStats = " to the front of the setmetatable line |
| 22:10.54 | foxlit | But with SendAddonMessage supporting "WHISPER", you can do a lot of interesting things |
| 22:11.04 | foxlit | Without ever requiring a centralized channel |
| 22:11.04 | Davey2 | oh sorry i thought you said that was not safe lol |
| 22:11.13 | AnduinLothar | nothing that you couldn't do before |
| 22:11.13 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: you should do that after the VARIABLES_LOADED event |
| 22:11.18 | raevanmorlock | foxlit: But how would you know who to whisper? |
| 22:11.34 | foxlit | Intersections in GUILD, RAID, PARTY, very active sharing of known peers |
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| 22:11.38 | AnduinLothar | Sky and AceComm both support whispers already |
| 22:11.43 | Davey2 | like this? |
| 22:11.46 | Davey2 | if (event == "VARIABLES_LOADED") then |
| 22:11.46 | Davey2 | BGStats = setmetatable(BGStats or {}, { __index = function(tbl, val) tbl[val] = 0; return 0 end } ); |
| 22:11.50 | foxlit | Sky and AceComm are also boring. |
| 22:11.54 | clad|afk_ | yes, but they require both people to have the addon |
| 22:11.55 | cogwheel|work | yep |
| 22:11.59 | clad|afk_ | so you can't solicit using whispers |
| 22:12.03 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 22:12.10 | foxlit | Besides, they're pretty wrappers around SendMessage() |
| 22:12.27 | cladhaire | my mom is a pretty wrapper |
| 22:12.27 | Shirik | hmm |
| 22:12.31 | Davey2 | and that is considered after the variables_loaded you said to put it after? |
| 22:12.34 | Shirik | has anyone ever considered |
| 22:12.35 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: yea she is ;-) |
| 22:12.42 | raevanmorlock | She must be glad you think so, cladhaire |
| 22:12.44 | Shirik | creating a patch file for addons |
| 22:12.46 | cogwheel|work | yes. You can't call LoadText until after BGStats is created |
| 22:12.50 | Shirik | that could be distributed in-game? |
| 22:12.58 | foxlit | Shirik: yes. |
| 22:13.00 | cladhaire | yes |
| 22:13.01 | TC-Working | ~tmi cladhaire |
| 22:13.12 | raevanmorlock | Shirik: huh? |
| 22:13.12 | Shirik | where did that go? |
| 22:13.12 | TC-Working | aww poo |
| 22:13.13 | foxlit | I stopped at a viable authentification scheme to make sure you aren't running DESTROY_ALL_EPIX! |
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| 22:13.23 | Shirik | hmm |
| 22:13.23 | TC-Working | purl needs a tmi command |
| 22:13.30 | Shirik | good point |
| 22:13.30 | cladhaire | its a 0 integrity system |
| 22:13.36 | cladhaire | best effort at best |
| 22:13.38 | Shirik | yup |
| 22:13.42 | Davey2 | so in the <OnLoad> in the XML is should be this way round? |
| 22:13.42 | Davey2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.42 | Davey2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.49 | foxlit | Public key cryptography would work, but it's far too complex for the context being considered. |
| 22:13.49 | cogwheel|work | no |
| 22:13.53 | Shirik | you can obfuscate it all you want but there's no real way to authenticate it |
| 22:13.54 | cogwheel|work | you can't do it in OnLoad |
| 22:14.10 | cogwheel|work | OnLoad occurs long before the SavedVariables are loaded |
| 22:14.13 | Shirik | best you could probably do is ask the user |
| 22:14.15 | foxlit | Public/Private keys, signatures on patches. |
| 22:14.17 | Shirik | but asking the user to review code isp ointless |
| 22:14.21 | raevanmorlock | OnLoad means the frame loaded.. not the addon |
| 22:14.36 | Davey2 | oh |
| 22:14.43 | foxlit | AddOns could then only trust patches that were signed by their author. |
| 22:14.56 | cladhaire | yep |
| 22:14.58 | cladhaire | that's the best you can do |
| 22:15.26 | Davey2 | still geting that error |
| 22:15.29 | Davey2 | on line 7 |
| 22:15.35 | foxlit | If you ever implement a relatively secure digital signature algorithm in LUA, tell me. |
| 22:16.14 | raevanmorlock | So you can break it? Ha! |
| 22:16.33 | foxlit | Would be more fun if blizzard did it. |
| 22:16.53 | foxlit | Could hook up addon database through wow, and they'd act as the central authority, plus they'd be able to trace addons to accounts. |
| 22:17.09 | raevanmorlock | My earhole feels funny! |
| 22:17.23 | Shirik | that would actually be kinda coo |
| 22:17.25 | cogwheel|work | Davey2: then you're still calling it sometime before the addon is loaded |
| 22:17.26 | Shirik | cool too |
| 22:17.35 | cogwheel|work | s/addon is/variables are/ |
| 22:17.37 | Shirik | but |
| 22:17.38 | Shirik | they'd never do it |
| 22:18.16 | foxlit | Who knows? |
| 22:18.21 | raevanmorlock | The only thing worse than those flash-game advertisements is an image made to look like a flash-game advertisement |
| 22:18.37 | foxlit | "kill the orc to get free goldz?" |
| 22:18.52 | Shirik | no |
| 22:18.55 | Shirik | I don't really mind those |
| 22:19.01 | Shirik | at least they don't make you go into epilectic shock |
| 22:19.09 | Shirik | the ones that flash neon colors with a black and white background |
| 22:19.11 | Shirik | I hate those |
| 22:19.25 | raevanmorlock | But I clicked the button to trim the nose hairs and the little guy didn't do anything! |
| 22:19.29 | Shirik | swap background colors at about 5Hz |
| 22:19.38 | Shirik | you can't even read the page anymore |
| 22:19.46 | raevanmorlock | Gawd my keyboard is filthy |
| 22:20.27 | raevanmorlock | That reminds me.. I was supposed to be uninstalling Crimson Editor and Notepad++ some hours ago |
| 22:21.24 | foxlit | Let's play... spot an error in a one-liner that should've never been |
| 22:21.25 | foxlit | <Scripts><OnLoad> local i; for i=2,4 do _G["RAB_Assign_Class" .. i]:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",_G["RAB_Assign_Class" .. (i-1)],"TOPRIGHT",0,0); _G["RAB_Assign_Class" .. i]:SetID(i); end</OnLoad></Scripts> |
| 22:22.02 | cogwheel|work | logic error or syntax error? |
| 22:22.03 | raevanmorlock | local i; for i |
| 22:22.15 | foxlit | logic error, it compiles |
| 22:22.18 | raevanmorlock | that's making 2 local i variables |
| 22:22.19 | Shirik | yeah, that's really unnecessary |
| 22:22.37 | foxlit | variables used in for are local? Never knew :/ |
| 22:22.38 | raevanmorlock | Did I win? |
| 22:22.42 | Shirik | foxlit: yup |
| 22:22.44 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 22:23.04 | raevanmorlock | so I didn't win..? |
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| 22:23.16 | foxlit | deviates from c; but that doesn't explain why it doens't appear to work |
| 22:23.45 | Shirik | from the manual: The loop variable v is local to the loop; you cannot use its value after the for ends or is broken. If you need this value, assign it to another variable before breaking or exiting the loop. |
| 22:23.45 | raevanmorlock | Only other thing I can think of is some of those vars don't exist |
| 22:23.53 | foxlit | ookay, nevermind, I fail in more ways than imaginable |
| 22:24.04 | Shirik | Actually, foxlit, in C, if you declare the variable in the for loop, it's local the the for loop as well |
| 22:24.11 | Shirik | for (int i = 0; i < n; i++) { } |
| 22:24.16 | raevanmorlock | for ( int i = 0; i <. ... yeah like that |
| 22:24.18 | Shirik | i is not accessible outside of the for loop |
| 22:24.38 | foxlit | Slotted <Scripts> into <Frames> rather than <Frame> :( |
| 22:24.45 | raevanmorlock | but in C, you could do int i; for ( i = .. |
| 22:24.47 | foxlit | But hey, got way more out of that then I expected |
| 22:24.48 | Shirik | MSVC6 incorrectly didn't follow this standard |
| 22:25.21 | Davey2 | ah, i see. i was calling LoadText in the XML on the OnLoad. didn't see that at first lol |
| 22:25.37 | Davey2 | went to take a breather. i've been sitting here for about 6 hours i think? |
| 22:25.46 | Shirik | There are no breathers!! |
| 22:25.51 | foxlit | just code! |
| 22:25.52 | Davey2 | lol |
| 22:25.58 | raevanmorlock | You must always hold your breath while coding |
| 22:26.07 | foxlit | You don't leave until you code me a viable buff-planning addon! |
| 22:26.20 | foxlit | communicate in raid, figure out who has what, assign buffs. |
| 22:26.20 | raevanmorlock | Your brain needs as little oxygen as possible to think efficiently |
| 22:26.25 | Davey2 | ooh thats irritating. in my fontstring, it is aligning it centrally in the left hand side |
| 22:26.38 | foxlit | justifyH="LEFT" |
| 22:27.11 | raevanmorlock | You know what's also annoying? When you hold down backspace in mIRC, it creates this loud, rapid error sound |
| 22:27.30 | Shirik | try not trying to delete something that doesn't exist :P |
| 22:27.35 | Shirik | then it doesn't make this loud rapid erorr sound |
| 22:27.44 | Davey2 | woohoo |
| 22:28.04 | Davey2 | or turn mirc sounds off |
| 22:28.05 | Davey2 | lol |
| 22:28.20 | raevanmorlock | But if I start to type.. and then I typo.. I just hold in backspace.. and vroooom gah argh *death* |
| 22:29.17 | raevanmorlock | I like some of the sounds though |
| 22:29.28 | Shirik | shift+home backspace |
| 22:29.40 | cogwheel|work | Delete > Backspace |
| 22:29.43 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 22:29.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:30.03 | Davey2 | wow weird |
| 22:30.08 | Shirik | Backspace requires less power to use |
| 22:30.15 | Davey2 | 5 months ago i had given up on /splay in mIRC |
| 22:30.20 | raevanmorlock | Delete makes the noise too |
| 22:30.20 | Davey2 | it was failing to work |
| 22:30.29 | Davey2 | now it is working o__O |
| 22:31.07 | raevanmorlock | I disabled sounds and it still makes that beep! |
| 22:31.10 | Shirik | backspace is ASCII 8, delete is ASCII 127 |
| 22:31.21 | raevanmorlock | I hate you mIRC |
| 22:31.35 | Shirik | Therefore... backspace is represented by binary 00001000, whereas delete is represented by 01111111 |
| 22:31.40 | raevanmorlock | ASCII is deprecated |
| 22:31.50 | Shirik | Thus, backspace can be represented by 5v, and delete is represented by 35v |
| 22:31.56 | Shirik | therefore, backspace requires less power |
| 22:32.03 | raevanmorlock | Shirik knows too much for his own good |
| 22:32.07 | TC-Working | no kidding |
| 22:32.14 | Shirik | =P |
| 22:32.16 | TC-Working | ~mute Shirik |
| 22:32.19 | purl | ACTION bungs up Shirik's vocal chords with cotton wool. |
| 22:32.19 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:32.21 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 22:32.28 | TC-Working | bungs?? |
| 22:32.30 | raevanmorlock | bungs? |
| 22:32.36 | raevanmorlock | purl has quite the odd vocabulary |
| 22:32.37 | Shirik | ~dict bungs |
| 22:32.42 | Shirik | ...... |
| 22:32.43 | TC-Working | heh |
| 22:32.45 | Shirik | ~dict bung |
| 22:33.03 | Shirik | well, I learned a new word today.. |
| 22:33.04 | raevanmorlock | Haha.. you got bunged! |
| 22:33.04 | TC-Working | huh...eclectic |
| 22:33.13 | foxlit | why 2 of 5? |
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| 22:33.18 | foxlit | Does purl pick randomly? |
| 22:33.21 | foxlit | ~dict bung |
| 22:33.22 | Shirik | because it didn't want to do 1 of 5? |
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| 22:33.43 | TC-Working | weird word |
| 22:33.52 | foxlit | 1 is more exciting! |
| 22:34.05 | raevanmorlock | 1 is incomplete! |
| 22:35.26 | raevanmorlock | ~dict bung 3 |
| 22:35.33 | Shirik | ~dict 3 bung |
| 22:35.36 | raevanmorlock | you fail, purl |
| 22:35.48 | raevanmorlock | smartass |
| 22:35.51 | cogwheel|work | We use bungs here at work |
| 22:35.59 | Shirik | raevanmorlock: pebkac |
| 22:36.04 | raevanmorlock | ~dict pebkac |
| 22:36.15 | raevanmorlock | shush you! |
| 22:36.22 | Shirik | hehe |
| 22:37.17 | raevanmorlock | ~dict Shirik |
| 22:37.25 | raevanmorlock | Haha you're undefined! |
| 22:37.31 | Shirik | ~Shirik |
| 22:37.34 | purl | "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 22:37.43 | Shirik | ~raevanmorlock |
| 22:37.45 | cogwheel|work | ~cogwheel |
| 22:37.47 | purl | [cogwheel] actualy another advanced chat bot that automatically responds when you put anything that follows WoW macro syntax in chat. |
| 22:37.47 | raevanmorlock | That's a great quote |
| 22:37.47 | Shirik | :P |
| 22:37.59 | kergoth | "I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons, Office Space |
| 22:38.07 | foxlit | Wonder if there's a language which does not contain nothing as something |
| 22:38.24 | Shirik | foxlit: Lua? |
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| 22:38.37 | Shirik | ex: 2+3 is not valid in lua |
| 22:38.39 | Davey2 | i had called that LoadText in onload for a reason though cog |
| 22:38.46 | Shirik | (without assigning it to something) |
| 22:38.52 | Shirik | >>> 2; |
| 22:38.53 | Cide | Shirik: 2 |
| 22:38.57 | foxlit | communication language, not programming langauge |
| 22:38.57 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:39.00 | Shirik | well Cide puts a return in front of that -_- |
| 22:39.00 | Davey2 | i had just realised why |
| 22:39.08 | raevanmorlock | Shirik, Erin says you rock |
| 22:39.12 | Shirik | who's Erin? |
| 22:39.34 | Davey2 | it loads the first tab, which shows you all the values in Overall |
| 22:39.41 | raevanmorlock | She says "My thottbot and ircbot with boobs" |
| 22:39.56 | Shirik | ummm |
| 22:40.07 | Shirik | not sure how to respond to that one |
| 22:40.08 | raevanmorlock | That's what I said too |
| 22:40.44 | raevanmorlock | Ya know... she was leading me all over WoW the other day so I called her a thottbot with boobs and now she mimics it every chance she gets |
| 22:41.02 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:45.48 | raevanmorlock | She's my thottbot with boobs, obviously. |
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| 22:45.59 | Shirik | I'm imagining an addon |
| 22:46.03 | Shirik | like an imaginary friend |
| 22:46.06 | Shirik | but a WoW imaginary friend |
| 22:46.10 | Shirik | so like an imaginary imaginary friend? |
| 22:46.16 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 22:46.20 | raevanmorlock | No, she's real |
| 22:46.24 | cogwheel|work | someone needs to make a Clippy addon |
| 22:46.50 | Tem | if we leave this cucumber right there on the couch for a week and it turns into a pickle, she's real and we have to buy Patrick a steak |
| 22:46.53 | Shirik | "Hi there, you appear to be trying to kill something. Would you like assistance?" |
| 22:46.56 | Shirik | I would kill myself |
| 22:47.31 | Davey2 | lol |
| 22:48.40 | Shirik | reminds me of this http://sc.tri-bit.com/Vi_Assistant |
| 22:48.49 | zenzelezz | "It looks like you're writing a gold selling letter, would you like a template?" |
| 22:49.52 | cogwheel|work | ZOMG! |
| 22:49.58 | cogwheel|work | Shirik: you're on to something... |
| 22:50.24 | cogwheel|work | you could totally replace the newbie tips UI with something like taht... |
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| 22:50.42 | foxlit | Texture:GetParent() gives the frame containing the texture? |
| 22:50.45 | TC-Working | ~dict antidisestablishmentarianism |
| 22:51.00 | cogwheel|work | ~dict pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 22:51.35 | TC-Working | yes yes, we all know that thje longest word in the english language is a medical term |
| 22:51.43 | TC-Working | s/thje/the/ |
| 22:51.58 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 22:52.07 | cogwheel|work | was just reading that :) |
| 22:52.09 | foxlit | ~wikipedia Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 22:52.11 | Shirik | "It was coined to serve as the longest English word. The more general and widely used term for this condition is pneumoconiosis, also known as black lung disease." |
| 22:52.24 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:52.27 | Shirik | it's too long to fit |
| 22:53.00 | raevanmorlock | This chat is toxic.. I must leave until all my finals are complete! |
| 22:53.26 | raevanmorlock | Goodbye, cruel world! |
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| 22:53.38 | Shirik | I um |
| 22:53.43 | Shirik | just joined a BRD praty |
| 22:53.44 | Shirik | party* |
| 22:53.48 | Shirik | there are 3 other priests |
| 22:53.54 | AnduinLothar | BRD is fun to 2man with a mage |
| 22:53.55 | TC-Working | heh |
| 22:54.38 | AnduinLothar | might be able to solo, but i dunno f i could put out enough dmg while healign myself on emp |
| 22:55.45 | foxlit | If lua chokes on scripts embedded in XML, the whole XML parse dies? |
| 22:55.59 | Shirik | didn't think so, but dunno |
| 23:00.10 | sysrage | wtf is up with all the fubar crap not working all the sudden? |
| 23:00.10 | sysrage | bastards |
| 23:00.29 | Shirik | blame ckknight |
| 23:00.43 | Shirik | he obviously taught the authors how to use the functions incorreclty |
| 23:01.42 | sysrage | i blame you |
| 23:01.53 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:01.57 | sysrage | j/k <3 |
| 23:02.04 | JoshBorke | purl, comfort Shirik |
| 23:02.06 | purl | There, there, Shirik. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:02.13 | Shirik | ~hug purl |
| 23:02.14 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs purl |
| 23:02.18 | Davey2 | um |
| 23:02.21 | Shirik | wow |
| 23:02.26 | Shirik | that must have been difficult... |
| 23:02.39 | JoshBorke | gotta be a mirror |
| 23:03.16 | Davey2 | if my script is calling LoadText before the savedvariables are being called - but in order to populate the default tab |
| 23:03.19 | Davey2 | how to overcome this? |
| 23:03.35 | JoshBorke | load the text after the saved variables are loaded |
| 23:04.20 | Davey2 | ahh |
| 23:04.26 | Davey2 | sorry dumb moment lol |
| 23:08.18 | ckknight | don't blame me |
| 23:08.23 | ckknight | blame gnomes |
| 23:08.32 | cogwheel|work | Don't blame gnomes |
| 23:08.34 | ckknight | sysrage: FuBar works fine for me |
| 23:08.36 | cogwheel|work | blame NE Hunters |
| 23:08.45 | ckknight | damn Nelfs |
| 23:08.54 | Shirik | agreed |
| 23:09.06 | Shirik | btw ckknight, actually fubar's not working for me either but it's probably my fault |
| 23:09.07 | cogwheel|work | (except Cairenn|walk Iriel, & Tem|work) |
| 23:09.22 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 23:09.24 | Shirik | Cairenn|walk is a NE? |
| 23:09.33 | Shirik | I don't think I can come here anymore |
| 23:09.46 | Shirik | I'm going to curse |
| 23:10.03 | cogwheel|work | err... tem's a priest... nm |
| 23:10.21 | ckknight | what do you play, Shirik? |
| 23:10.29 | Shirik | hm |
| 23:10.38 | Shirik | Well, Shirik is a dwarf |
| 23:10.38 | TC-Working | yea, i have a NE priest as well....so ashamed |
| 23:10.51 | Shirik | but I don't remember the last time I've played on Shirik |
| 23:11.00 | Shirik | though I promised I'd log on Thursday to go to BWL |
| 23:11.09 | Shirik | I really play a BE priest now |
| 23:11.29 | Shirik | tbh I always wanted to be a priest... I just... didn't |
| 23:11.35 | cogwheel|work | Gnome Warrior For Life |
| 23:11.44 | Shirik | yeah, after the five million rerolls? |
| 23:11.50 | ckknight | I'm a pally |
| 23:12.01 | Guillotine | I'm an NE :( Wish dwarves could be druids |
| 23:12.22 | ckknight | lol |
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| 23:13.00 | ckknight | I had become extremely frustrated with Horde since the Belves, due to so many incompetent 12-year-olds playing them. I rerolled a Draenei recently and am quite happy with her |
| 23:13.15 | Shirik | aye, my server seems a bit mature though |
| 23:13.15 | foxlit | strsub arguments make me cry :( |
| 23:13.19 | Corrodias | as if children are the only ones who like an attractive character |
| 23:13.26 | foxlit | strsub(string, start, end) is just evil |
| 23:13.27 | Corrodias | nobody over 13yo has porn! |
| 23:14.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:14.06 | Shirik | says the man who made a "Not porn" folder instead of a "Porn" folder |
| 23:14.07 | Corrodias | exactly, and i'm 23 |
| 23:14.40 | TC-Working | i'm 25, i just act like i'm 5 |
| 23:14.50 | TC-Working | it's a lot more fun |
| 23:15.14 | TC-Working | that way, i can have porn as well |
| 23:15.37 | Kaso | foxlit evil? |
| 23:15.58 | foxlit | In almost every language I know, it's strsub(string, start, length) |
| 23:16.19 | Kaso | ah |
| 23:16.47 | foxlit | requiring end as third argument produces a lot of interesting failures |
| 23:17.28 | Corrodias | lua does things JUST to be different, i swear |
| 23:17.57 | Shirik | it could be worse |
| 23:17.59 | Shirik | it could be ruby |
| 23:18.24 | Corrodias | hm, i don't know ruby |
| 23:18.34 | Shirik | neither do I |
| 23:18.44 | Shirik | but everything I've seen makes it look like an unreadable language |
| 23:18.52 | kergoth | foxlit: what's wrong with the strsub arguments? |
| 23:18.56 | Shirik | then again, there are apparently those who swear by it |
| 23:19.06 | kergoth | oh, i see |
| 23:28.30 | Davey2 | mm i cant find anything to return my player's name |
| 23:28.40 | Davey2 | checking wowwiki |
| 23:29.05 | MentalPower | UnitName("player") |
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| 23:30.24 | Davey2 | okay, gotta find that on wiki now lol |
| 23:30.34 | Davey2 | bit hard to navigate for me |
| 23:30.46 | Davey2 | why i have trouble finding these things |
| 23:31.04 | MentalPower | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitName |
| 23:32.56 | Davey2 | ah. |
| 23:32.58 | Davey2 | Unit functions |
| 23:33.08 | Davey2 | 1.62 |
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| 23:45.53 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ionlydoeyes (n=chatzill@c-24-14-211-109.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:47.30 | Davey2 | um |
| 23:47.45 | Davey2 | cant seem to find how to get the number of players inside the BG ? |
| 23:47.57 | Davey2 | in order to attempt to find my own index |
| 23:48.17 | Davey2 | or is there a way to get my BG index directly? that would be easier lol |
| 23:53.44 | Davey2 | my own BG index would be more useful if it is possible, but i can't find anything on either of those ATM |
| 23:55.15 | Shirik | so I'm listening to this Jesus Christ: Superstar soundtrack |
| 23:55.30 | Shirik | and I'm trying to figure out why King Herod's song is sung by a female |
| 23:55.30 | Terrifion | I'm listening to the song of storms. |
| 23:55.55 | Davey2 | song of storms as in legend of zelda? |
| 23:56.08 | sysrage | ckknight: works by itself it seems. but something recently broke so a bunch of the fubar mods make it so none of them show up |
| 23:56.10 | Kemayo | Shirik: That's the weird pseudo-urban recording? |
| 23:56.18 | Shirik | sysrage: I have the exact same problem |
| 23:56.26 | ckknight | likely my AceEvent hax |
| 23:56.27 | Shirik | no lua errors either |
| 23:56.32 | ckknight | the solution is to update everything. |
| 23:57.00 | Shirik | Kemayo: Um... I don't know. The album title is written in German for some reason |
| 23:57.16 | Kemayo | Not the one I'm thinking of, then. :) |
| 23:57.20 | sysrage | update even if my updater says there's no update? |
| 23:58.06 | ckknight | which updater? |
| 23:58.11 | sysrage | WUU |
| 23:58.16 | ckknight | also, another fix may be to get the Ace2 standalone. |
| 23:58.17 | Shirik | WUU? |
| 23:58.24 | sysrage | WoW UI Updater. it rocks |
| 23:58.25 | ckknight | if you have that, all the issues should go away |
| 23:58.26 | ckknight | ~wuu |
| 23:58.30 | purl | i heard wuu is WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 23:58.42 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:59.01 | sysrage | k. thanks ck.. will try after raid |
| 23:59.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | ckknight thanks for fixing locationfu :D |
| 23:59.28 | TC-Working | doesnt seem to work with wowi though |
| 23:59.34 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: wasn't me |
| 23:59.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh :O |
| 23:59.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | well it's fixed and up on the aceupdater @_@ |
