| 00:00.34 | chuckg | In the case of this addon http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info4944-FuBar-DamageMetersFufull.html Shirik, I left it up for the same reason you said I shouldn't delete it. So even evil deleters have ideals :) |
| 00:00.58 | chuckg | Thanks clad, Cairenn. |
| 00:01.03 | cladhaire | all done |
| 00:01.04 | chuckg | Reboot time, stupid castingbar is skipping. |
| 00:01.07 | Cairenn | chuckg: I understand why you are pulling the first one (I read the description) but I am curious as to why you are pulling the second? I hope it isn't anything like something on the site upsetting you? |
| 00:01.16 | chuckg | Oh heavens no :) |
| 00:01.21 | chuckg | It's just a trashy trash mod. |
| 00:01.25 | chuckg | And there's 9 million that do the same thing. |
| 00:01.35 | Legorol | The whole discussion is moot. The AddOn is not owned by the community, it's owned by the author. If he doesn't want to distribute it any more, WoWi would be breaking the author's wishes by not removing it. End of story. |
| 00:01.49 | Shirik | Once again |
| 00:01.54 | Shirik | I never said WoWI shouldn't delete it if he asks |
| 00:02.06 | Shirik | nor did I ever say he was "evil" for asking for it to be removed |
| 00:02.12 | Corrodias | discussion can prevail in the face of silence! |
| 00:02.40 | Shirik | However, I did urge him to reconsider deleting it, regrettably without inquiring as to why he wanted it removed |
| 00:02.48 | cladhaire | Shirik: in programming practices this is often looked down upon |
| 00:02.49 | cladhaire | [7:54pm] Shirik: you never delete a file, you never permanently remove changes, etc. |
| 00:02.51 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 00:03.01 | cladhaire | he knew what he was doing, and that was clear to me |
| 00:03.06 | cladhaire | but i can consider the source, and his history =) |
| 00:03.17 | Shirik | It's looked down upon to not delete a file? |
| 00:03.34 | cladhaire | that's not a universal thing |
| 00:03.38 | cladhaire | you speak like its a universal truth |
| 00:03.45 | cladhaire | best practice to not delete, absolutely |
| 00:04.03 | cladhaire | but i've never been a part of a community where deleting something is looked down upon. |
| 00:04.27 | cladhaire | its all well and done at this point |
| 00:04.36 | Shirik | we're arguing about nothing |
| 00:04.42 | cladhaire | we do that well =) |
| 00:04.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | aaarghhhh xbox live is down :[ |
| 00:04.55 | Shirik | good |
| 00:05.05 | Shirik | now go back to wow :P |
| 00:05.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to play some co op crackdown |
| 00:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i could play some castlevania but it's frustrating me |
| 00:05.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 00:05.49 | Shirik | no! |
| 00:05.55 | Shirik | leave the useless white box alone |
| 00:06.11 | Corrodias | i have to choose a cable/satellite tv provider |
| 00:06.13 | Shirik | engage activity with two devices at once |
| 00:06.19 | Shirik | a keyboard and a mouse |
| 00:06.24 | Shirik | 2 > 1 |
| 00:06.29 | Shirik | therefore the fun in wow > the fun on xbox |
| 00:06.43 | Corrodias | i've got charter cable, directv, and dish network as options. the dish network package with the only channels i care about is $20 per month cheaper than the other two's plans. |
| 00:07.09 | Corrodias | but i don't see why... |
| 00:07.21 | Shirik | what's it missing? |
| 00:07.26 | Corrodias | and i wonder if any of you are familiar with the service |
| 00:07.41 | Shirik | is it missing a bunch of other channels that you don't care about? |
| 00:07.56 | Shirik | I have had directv |
| 00:08.08 | Shirik | the only reason I left it was because I moved and the trees were too damn tall there |
| 00:08.10 | Corrodias | it has 100 channels for the same price as the directv package with only 40 channels |
| 00:08.27 | Shirik | but it was excellent |
| 00:08.35 | Shirik | no experience with the other two I'm afraid |
| 00:08.41 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm not a big fan of dish network personally |
| 00:09.05 | Corrodias | why? |
| 00:09.23 | Neuro_Medivh | I used Time Warner before i moved |
| 00:09.26 | Neuro_Medivh | and had HBO |
| 00:09.33 | Neuro_Medivh | with like 20 different HBO channels |
| 00:09.41 | Neuro_Medivh | Dish Network's HBO package has 8 |
| 00:09.47 | Shirik | haha |
| 00:09.53 | Corrodias | i'm afraid i don't know what hbo is, really |
| 00:09.57 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:09.59 | Neuro_Medivh | ????? |
| 00:10.02 | Neuro_Medivh | HBO! |
| 00:10.06 | Shirik | Hrm |
| 00:10.09 | Shirik | what does hbo stand for actually? |
| 00:10.11 | Shirik | Does anyone know? |
| 00:10.12 | Corrodias | well that sure explains it! |
| 00:10.13 | Neuro_Medivh | Home Box Office |
| 00:10.15 | Shirik | ah |
| 00:10.23 | Shirik | Yeah it's a big movie channel |
| 00:10.25 | Neuro_Medivh | the premium movie channel |
| 00:10.26 | Shirik | possibly the most well known |
| 00:10.34 | Corrodias | oh, well... i don't watch movies, generally |
| 00:10.36 | Shirik | all movies all the time, uninterrupted |
| 00:10.48 | Neuro_Medivh | they have all the best shows... Deadwood, Carnivale, Rome |
| 00:10.57 | Neuro_Medivh | Band of Brothers ftw! |
| 00:10.58 | Shirik | oh yeah they have some shows too :P |
| 00:11.00 | Corrodias | shows? i thought you said movies |
| 00:11.06 | Shirik | Yeah well they usually have movies |
| 00:11.08 | Neuro_Medivh | Entourage |
| 00:11.09 | Shirik | they progressed beyond that |
| 00:11.21 | TC_Working | 6 feet under? |
| 00:11.25 | Shirik | ~hbo |
| 00:11.30 | Neuro_Medivh | yep, though I never watched that one |
| 00:11.39 | Neuro_Medivh | They had Sex and the City, another I didn't watch |
| 00:11.47 | Shirik | ah yeah sex and the city |
| 00:11.48 | TC_Working | sopranos? (cant spell) |
| 00:11.49 | Shirik | was about to say that |
| 00:11.56 | Neuro_Medivh | Sopranos! How could i forget |
| 00:12.01 | Shirik | psh |
| 00:12.05 | Shirik | I couldn't understand that show |
| 00:12.18 | Neuro_Medivh | You gotta catch it from the beginning |
| 00:12.33 | Neuro_Medivh | but it's good. Carnivale was my favorite series by them |
| 00:12.36 | Shirik | Well that's not very good business practice |
| 00:12.46 | Corrodias | arr |
| 00:12.47 | TC_Working | the big 3 on cable are HBO cinimax and Showtime |
| 00:12.49 | Neuro_Medivh | well, remember, they replay their shows ALL the time |
| 00:12.56 | Shirik | your audience is immediately limited to only the people who saw the first episode |
| 00:12.59 | Shirik | ah, yeah |
| 00:13.17 | Neuro_Medivh | like, usually before they show the next season they replay the entire season before it |
| 00:13.38 | Shirik | Anyway Corrodias |
| 00:13.42 | Neuro_Medivh | when Season 5 of Sopranos came out, they showed seasons 1-4 for the 2 months beforehand |
| 00:13.42 | Shirik | I could watch HBO all day if I still had it |
| 00:13.53 | Shirik | also Directv has Starz too |
| 00:13.57 | Shirik | which is pretty good alternative to hbo |
| 00:14.01 | Shirik | but that's one of the more premium packages |
| 00:14.02 | Corrodias | that might depend on which package you get |
| 00:14.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | we had a starz trial when we first got directv |
| 00:14.21 | Neuro_Medivh | I just prefer cable to satellite, overall, because you can get a better deal by packaging the cable modem |
| 00:14.30 | Shirik | Agreed. |
| 00:14.37 | Shirik | Because sat internet |
| 00:14.38 | Neuro_Medivh | and it's just one bill, instead of two |
| 00:14.39 | Shirik | is just too damn laggy |
| 00:14.43 | Corrodias | i'd have to pay $90 per month to get HBO through directv |
| 00:14.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | one month of constantly being able to find awesome movies with starz, hbo, etc is awesome |
| 00:15.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the trial runs out fast :[ |
| 00:15.02 | Corrodias | i chose DSL because the cable provider in the area, Charter, blows as an ISP |
| 00:15.04 | Shirik | I know two people who play on satellite because their ISP is too lazy to lay down just 1 mile of cabling |
| 00:15.13 | Shirik | and they have a constant ping > 2000ms |
| 00:15.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | comcast is my only internet/tv option other than bellsouth/directv |
| 00:15.33 | TC_Working | it's rr now |
| 00:15.34 | Shirik | At least you have options |
| 00:15.38 | TC_Working | nvm |
| 00:15.41 | Shirik | I have BrightHouse RR |
| 00:15.42 | Shirik | Period. |
| 00:15.44 | Corrodias | i'm wary about choosing charter for a cable option because of their poor record as an isp |
| 00:15.44 | Shirik | That or AOL |
| 00:15.45 | Neuro_Medivh | I had comcast, then they got switched to Time Warner |
| 00:15.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait, we can't even get comcast nevermind |
| 00:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot |
| 00:15.50 | Shirik | Hell no not getting AOL |
| 00:16.01 | Shirik | Even Brighthouse isn't that bad |
| 00:16.02 | TC_Working | yea i have time warner as well, though it's really roadrunner |
| 00:16.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | directv and bellsouth are literally my only options, no cable tv/internet service in my area :[ |
| 00:16.12 | Cairenn | I love mine - I've got my cable tv (that I never watch :p ), my internet, home phone, long distance (1000minutes/month for $10), and cell phone all on one bill |
| 00:16.14 | Neuro_Medivh | TC, you're in Dallas aren't you |
| 00:16.23 | TC_Working | socal |
| 00:16.54 | Bleeter | I've travelled a few countries, different languages, broadcasting styles. Downright *best* station on the planet is SBS Australia |
| 00:16.54 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh |
| 00:16.54 | Neuro_Medivh | Dallas just switched from Comcast to Time Warner/RR |
| 00:16.55 | Shirik | Unfortunately We don't get SBS Australia in the US |
| 00:16.55 | Shirik | I blame Bush |
| 00:16.55 | Bleeter | I blame Rove |
| 00:17.07 | Neuro_Medivh | I blame the Aussies |
| 00:17.12 | Neuro_Medivh | for everything |
| 00:17.15 | TC_Working | what i really want is verizons Fios service |
| 00:17.16 | Neuro_Medivh | damn criminals |
| 00:17.26 | TC_Working | 2.6Gb down |
| 00:17.29 | Shirik | It was the damn patriot act |
| 00:17.31 | Shirik | I tell ya |
| 00:17.37 | Bleeter | better to be a political criminal than a religious zealot |
| 00:17.57 | Shirik | Who's Rove btw? |
| 00:18.03 | Neuro_Medivh | Rove is the real president |
| 00:18.05 | Corrodias | oh, for $15/mo extra, i could add 8 channels of HBO |
| 00:18.17 | Neuro_Medivh | Karl Rove is Bush's chief of staff |
| 00:18.17 | Shirik | the real president? |
| 00:18.21 | Shirik | ah |
| 00:18.25 | Shirik | See I wouldn't care |
| 00:18.36 | Neuro_Medivh | Bush doesn't wipe his own ass without checking with Karl Rove |
| 00:18.36 | Shirik | I basically take the entire executive branch |
| 00:18.45 | Shirik | and decide they're all a bunch of lunatics |
| 00:19.10 | Bleeter | we've got a chatshow host in .au, surname 'Rove'. Lead to an interesting .. erm, gaff, when his wife died. Leader of the opposition got him mixed up with Karl Rove |
| 00:19.16 | Neuro_Medivh | Well, you know how everyone said Bush was a C student, etc? Rove is the one who had all the brains. Bush was just the figurehead, he had the Brand Name. |
| 00:19.22 | AnduinLothar | stop makign my client beep! |
| 00:19.38 | Bleeter | ^G^G^G^G |
| 00:20.02 | TC_Working | AnduinLothar, why are you beeping? |
| 00:20.08 | Bleeter | karl |
| 00:20.16 | Neuro_Medivh | I think it's funny how people keep talking about Obama and Clinton as Democratic front-runners |
| 00:20.21 | AnduinLothar | stop it! |
| 00:20.41 | Shirik | AnduinLothar ? |
| 00:20.41 | Bleeter | iamrite |
| 00:20.42 | TC_Working | what, karl does it? |
| 00:20.44 | Shirik | he's going to kill us >< |
| 00:20.58 | TC_Working | yea, but it will have been worth it |
| 00:21.03 | KarlThePagan | karl beeps me too |
| 00:21.14 | Neuro_Medivh | doesn't beep me |
| 00:21.21 | Bleeter | I don't have an IP address |
| 00:21.30 | Neuro_Medivh | maybe is the FBI's wiretap screwing up |
| 00:21.30 | TC_Working | why would karl beep AnduinLothar though |
| 00:21.41 | TC_Working | ?* |
| 00:21.48 | KarlThePagan | KarlKFI |
| 00:22.14 | TC_Working | uhhh...you lost me |
| 00:22.16 | AnduinLothar | diaf |
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| 00:22.29 | Gryphen | KarlKFI AKA AnduinLothar |
| 00:22.30 | KarlThePagan | check the cosmos authors page tc |
| 00:22.44 | TC_Working | oh cosmos, ok |
| 00:23.00 | TC_Working | *snicker* |
| 00:23.05 | Bleeter | hah! http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ |
| 00:23.06 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, if you're one of those people who likes Baseball, you can't get certain baseball games on cable or Dish Network anymore |
| 00:23.14 | TC_Working | @ AnduinLothar* |
| 00:24.07 | KarlThePagan | you can ping him more... and his dps will drop and he'll destroy you |
| 00:24.51 | TC_Working | mmmm...pingtastic |
| 00:24.55 | KarlThePagan | i just have to heal every few minutes |
| 00:25.14 | AnduinLothar | rawr! |
| 00:26.03 | AnduinLothar | still beating the mage and rogue |
| 00:28.09 | KarlThePagan | needs more forbearance imo |
| 00:29.07 | AnduinLothar | well at least you'll be able to shield me while i AW next patch |
| 00:29.12 | KarlThePagan | heh |
| 00:29.31 | KarlThePagan | and you can DS after it |
| 00:29.31 | AnduinLothar | tho you can macro both at teh same time now |
| 00:29.37 | KarlThePagan | for those BM bosses |
| 00:29.48 | KarlThePagan | gosh! focus fire |
| 00:30.21 | KarlThePagan | that's why 10k health pools rule |
| 00:30.26 | KarlThePagan | afk for 5s and noone cares |
| 00:33.06 | KarlThePagan | until a stray group gets pulled |
| 00:43.25 | Legorol | It's amasing what happens when you trace the history of the name of a constant. |
| 00:44.29 | Legorol | Long long time ago, back in the dark ages, around the time when WoW was released, I have defined a few constants in EquipCompare. These constants have been inherited through several AddOns (all basing their code on the one before), and are now found in a particular AddOn that looks nothing like EquipCompare. |
| 00:44.50 | Legorol | Yet the constant is still the same. |
| 00:44.51 | AnduinLothar | like what? |
| 00:45.08 | Legorol | INVTYPE_GUNPROJECTILE and INVTYPE_BOWPROJECTILE |
| 00:45.19 | Legorol | these don't exist in WoW, never have, I invented them |
| 00:45.23 | AnduinLothar | soudns liek a logical blizz inspoired name to me |
| 00:45.23 | Shirik | erm |
| 00:45.33 | Shirik | I think I remember that in wowwiki somewhere |
| 00:45.50 | Legorol | Shirik, there are a bunch of INVTYPE_X constants, but not those two. |
| 00:45.57 | Shirik | ah |
| 00:46.08 | Legorol | As I said, I invented them for a specific purpose. |
| 00:46.29 | Legorol | It's just amusing to see that every EquipCompare-type AddOn I have looked in so far inherited them. |
| 00:46.54 | Legorol | The one I was just looking at doesn't even use them anywhere, yet they are defined. |
| 00:47.03 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 00:47.28 | Legorol | It's just fun how these things get inherited. |
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| 01:19.00 | Tem | oh god |
| 01:19.07 | Tem | this program is such a fucking mess |
| 01:19.24 | Tem | I don't know if I'll be able to force myself to turn it in |
| 01:19.29 | Tem | it's *so* disgusting |
| 01:19.37 | MentalPower | homework? |
| 01:19.40 | Tem | yeha |
| 01:19.59 | MentalPower | hehe, I always say "if it works, fuck it" |
| 01:20.06 | Tem | I feel like it's working by the power of coding duct tape |
| 01:20.27 | Tem | I seriously have an accessor method for something that should be *very* private |
| 01:21.10 | Tem | Geekatron, have you added my favicon yet? |
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| 01:21.49 | norgs | hi tem :) |
| 01:23.33 | Kirkburn | Who the hell is Geekatron? |
| 01:23.37 | cladhaire | YOU NUB |
| 01:24.03 | Kirkburn | Stalker :( |
| 01:24.31 | Shadowed | Anyone happen to know what addon prefix "AMO_ABH_Share" is |
| 01:24.51 | norgs | no... you're not supposed to change from your stalker nick back to your old one while in the channel |
| 01:25.06 | norgs | you /leave /nick /join |
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| 01:26.08 | Kirkburn | At least I go by my full name! =) |
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| 01:28.04 | Norganna | I smell |
| 01:28.26 | norgs | (it's all true, unfortunatly) |
| 01:28.42 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 01:29.46 | Tem | Kirkburn, have you added a favicon yet? |
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| 01:30.05 | Kirkburn | Who the hell is Kirkburn? |
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| 01:31.03 | Tem | I hate you in the face |
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| 01:31.49 | Kirkburn | Right inna face? |
| 01:31.56 | JoshBorke | right inna face! |
| 01:31.57 | Tem | srsly |
| 01:35.55 | Kirkburn | Votes for what Blizzard's April Fools will be?! |
| 01:36.14 | norgs | new race: wisps |
| 01:36.25 | JoshBorke | FD actually kills the hunter |
| 01:38.54 | Kirkburn | I'm going for next expansion |
| 01:44.13 | JoshBorke | i have no idea really |
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| 01:46.12 | FlAWD | Kirk: did they do anything last year for April Fools? |
| 01:46.21 | Kirkburn | Blizz? |
| 01:46.24 | FlAWD | yea |
| 01:46.26 | AnduinLothar | pandaran playable race |
| 01:46.42 | JoshBorke | >>> string.format('%02d',0.58) |
| 01:46.47 | Kirkburn | Last year was Wisps and the burger fast food chain |
| 01:46.55 | AnduinLothar | pizza in game |
| 01:46.55 | JoshBorke | duh, it's gotta be a f doesn't it... |
| 01:47.40 | FlAWD | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/races/two-headed-ogre.shtml |
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| 01:50.10 | FlAWD | Ah hah! Here we go: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:April_Fools |
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| 01:57.27 | Corrodias | i've gotten almost nothing accomplished in the game today |
| 01:57.30 | Corrodias | how horrible |
| 01:57.40 | JoshBorke | sounds like most days for me |
| 01:57.46 | cladhaire | i gain two levels a day |
| 01:57.52 | cladhaire | when i have time to plauy |
| 01:58.08 | JoshBorke | cladhaire can just go to hell |
| 01:58.13 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 01:58.28 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: do you actually use dotimer? |
| 01:58.52 | Corrodias | now i'm in an honor grind |
| 01:58.55 | Corrodias | i need a belt for tanking |
| 01:59.19 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: I think so |
| 01:59.23 | cladhaire | on my warlock a little, yeah |
| 01:59.29 | cladhaire | until I find something nicer |
| 02:00.46 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 02:00.59 | Nom- | My router locks up when I use Cisco VPN Client :( |
| 02:01.06 | cladhaire | lots of peopel have that issue |
| 02:01.08 | cladhaire | linksys i assume? |
| 02:01.15 | Nom- | Belkin, actually... |
| 02:01.16 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: i don't like the way it's coded :-/ |
| 02:01.31 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: I'm sure I wouldn't either, I just dunno what else there is |
| 02:01.33 | cladhaire | i like simple. |
| 02:01.36 | Nom- | It'll be fine for a few hours, then dies |
| 02:02.30 | Nom- | cladhaire: Is there a fix on Linksys? Maybe it works for Belkin routers too :) |
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| 02:05.55 | Kirkburn | I don't remember http://www.wowwiki.com/New_World_of_Warcraft_Player_vs._Player_Combat_Improvements |
| 02:07.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | you don't? |
| 02:07.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, that would be so much fun |
| 02:08.41 | Shadowed | How does the Human understand the Orc |
| 02:08.44 | Shadowed | Blizzard is cheating! |
| 02:08.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | april fools 2005 |
| 02:09.45 | Nom- | The human doesn't understand! |
| 02:09.56 | Nom- | It's a screenshot taken from the Orc's POV |
| 02:11.34 | JoshBorke | how do i get the texture of misery? |
| 02:11.56 | Shadowed | Check the texture returned by UnitDebuff |
| 02:12.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.bcm-law.com/Bio/MichaelBrandow.asp i want this guy to represent me, he'll be able to break their will with his stare /cry |
| 02:12.14 | JoshBorke | thanks |
| 02:12.40 | Shadowed | Pretty sure it's called Interface/Icons/Spell_Shadow_Misery though |
| 02:18.13 | Nom- | What's up with the blizz forums lately? |
| 02:18.26 | Nom- | Do they just say "welcome to blizzard forums" instead of "error" now |
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| 02:18.53 | Ktron | Hey Everyone, how goes? |
| 02:19.24 | Nom- | so so |
| 02:19.43 | Nom- | It's cold as hell |
| 02:20.06 | Ktron | Where are you? |
| 02:20.42 | Nom- | Perth, Australia |
| 02:20.42 | Ktron | heh |
| 02:20.43 | Nom- | I'm normally loving the cold weather, but i've got a head cold |
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| 02:21.04 | Nom- | *puts jacket back on* |
| 02:21.09 | Ktron | I'm looking through some of my old addons, anyone know if anything took the place of Silverfarmer? |
| 02:21.57 | FlAWD | Perth... isn't that where someone spotted that "Flying Car" on google earth? |
| 02:22.22 | Nom- | *shrug* |
| 02:22.31 | Nom- | I don't know what's so special about a flying car |
| 02:22.44 | Nom- | I mean, the UFO's must be more newsworth |
| 02:22.45 | Nom- | *y |
| 02:23.04 | FlAWD | heh |
| 02:23.07 | FlAWD | google it sometime :P |
| 02:23.08 | FlAWD | brb |
| 02:23.31 | Nom- | Yeah, I know the one you're talking about |
| 02:23.34 | Nom- | Didn't think it was Perth tho |
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| 02:25.26 | Nom- | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/05/google_earth_cruise_missile/ |
| 02:25.28 | Nom- | That's more interesting |
| 02:26.26 | Nom- | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/05/giant_insect_obliterated/ <-- that one is funny....obviously the bug got on the camera lens lol |
| 02:33.26 | JoshBorke | yay, i have a misery and a shadow weaving timer |
| 02:40.30 | Nom- | grats |
| 02:45.27 | Nom- | BAHAHAHAHA |
| 02:45.54 | Nom- | Someone tried to do a 'buy one, get one free' offer as an opening special on a porsche dealership |
| 02:46.06 | Nom- | You can imagine how well that went |
| 02:47.27 | Nom- | National spokesman for the dealership chain was quoted as saying "We are just glad that the idiot didn.t have time to run with his 'test drive 5 cars, get one free loyalty stamp card' campaign. |
| 02:47.51 | Nom- | Jane Cameron was arguably even more entrepreneurial. The local Janitor purchased a Porsche using the dealers "no deposit finance plan for low income earners", sold both cars, paid off the finance account and walked away with $120,000 profit. The finance plan was another one of Glen's initiatives that has now been cancelled. |
| 02:48.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | this guy in my wsg is speedhacking |
| 02:48.36 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: What makes you think that? |
| 02:48.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | he capped the flag in about 3 seconds |
| 02:48.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | from picking it up |
| 02:48.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus i mindvisioned him and he was warping all over the map |
| 02:49.22 | zenzelezz | hope you reported this before telling us |
| 02:49.25 | Nom- | goblin trans-dimentional rocket boots? |
| 02:49.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course |
| 02:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now i made a char on his server |
| 02:49.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | and whispered "guess you don't like your account too much, eh?" |
| 02:50.40 | Ktron | purl, rot13 nowhere |
| 02:50.40 | purl | abjurer |
| 02:50.41 | Nom- | pfft |
| 02:51.00 | Nom- | If I was every going to use a hack, it certainly wouldn't be to win in WSG |
| 02:51.03 | Nom- | Like we need help with that |
| 02:52.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've used TOS-breaking applications in the past, i'm ashamed to admit, but i never did anything that directly or indirectly affected anyone else |
| 02:52.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i drew the line there, even when i was corrupted by the hand of easy leveling |
| 02:53.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was far too paranoid and everything when i used it, it wasn't worth the possibility of account closure |
| 02:55.14 | cladhaire | y |
| 02:55.16 | cladhaire | ty |
| 02:55.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never grinded quest mobs with it, i never grinded when anyone else was nearby, and i was always at the computer, just watching tv or something, but eventually i just realized it wasn't what i wanted to do :O |
| 02:55.30 | Nom- | See, I don't have problems with afk grinding actually |
| 02:55.38 | cladhaire | i'm not judging, dont' worry =) |
| 02:55.38 | Nom- | I've never done it, but I don't have a problem with it |
| 02:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | though it was almost its own minigame, watching how smart it was |
| 02:55.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was really what kept my attention |
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| 02:56.04 | cladhaire | see I'd really want to see _that_ |
| 02:56.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | was watching how intelligent it was when it was setup properly |
| 02:56.10 | Nom- | Hacks which allow someone to actually get a decided advantage over other players in the game world i have a problem with |
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| 02:56.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | me too, nom |
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| 02:56.26 | Nom- | I mean, at the end of the day, someone farming 100g while AFK doesn't give them that much of an advantage |
| 02:56.36 | Nom- | Someone running a hack to solo heroic instances does make a BIG difference |
| 02:56.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | right |
| 02:56.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's kinda where i drew the line |
| 02:57.00 | Iriel | Nom- It gives them a large advantage for those who 'play' the AH |
| 02:57.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i realized i like blizzard and wow too much to give up my account and risk banning on future accounts |
| 02:57.19 | Nom- | Iriel: In the level 70 economy, someone afk grinding 100g is nothing |
| 02:57.25 | Nom- | Iriel: That's 3 quests, or 20 minutes |
| 02:57.33 | JoshBorke | until you run out of quests :-( |
| 02:57.38 | Nom- | Whereas, grinding on mobs, it's a couple of hours |
| 02:57.48 | zenzelezz | you do run out of quests at 70 |
| 02:57.58 | JoshBorke | a lot quicker than you might think too |
| 02:58.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i basically used it to grind about half of my levels from 45-55 or so |
| 02:58.08 | zenzelezz | I think I was even out of most of the solo ones at 69 |
| 02:58.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | because that is a really sucky gap, no good instances during that range |
| 02:58.39 | JoshBorke | 45-55 is the WORST |
| 02:58.46 | zenzelezz | think my least favorite levels are 30-40 actually |
| 02:58.47 | JoshBorke | all the zones are spread out |
| 02:58.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | 30-40 sucks too |
| 02:58.59 | JoshBorke | without a lot of quests in them |
| 02:59.03 | Nom- | 30-40 is crap actually |
| 02:59.08 | Nom- | 40-60 is fun |
| 02:59.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like 40-45 a ton |
| 02:59.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love scarlet monastey |
| 02:59.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | stary* |
| 02:59.29 | Nom- | Even beyond that |
| 02:59.34 | Nom- | Just questing from 45-55 is fun |
| 02:59.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ran that place probably over 1000 times so far |
| 02:59.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and its still not boring |
| 02:59.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used to farm doan solo at 42 |
| 02:59.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | when he dropped 5+g worth of blues |
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| 03:00.16 | Ktron | Mr_Rabies-- don't like Sunken Temple? Or Mauradon? |
| 03:00.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | now they nerfed it so he drops like 30s worth and his monk buddies come in |
| 03:00.23 | Ktron | Or Uldaman? |
| 03:00.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | hate hata hate hate hate those instances |
| 03:00.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | with the exception of the last half of maraudon |
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| 03:01.03 | Ktron | I don't like 10-20 for most classes |
| 03:01.06 | zenzelezz | I remember Maraudon |
| 03:01.18 | Ktron | The levels when you actually need to play because its not pure easy anymore |
| 03:01.28 | Ktron | But you still don't have all your classes spells/skills yte |
| 03:01.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10-20 for druids or priests is PAINFUL |
| 03:01.34 | Ktron | s/yte/yet/ |
| 03:01.36 | zenzelezz | spend some time flying there (pre-summoning stones), get inside, "[leader]: who has the scepter?" [4xMember]: ..." |
| 03:01.38 | zenzelezz | *disband* |
| 03:01.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | no cat form and hardly any offensive abilities |
| 03:01.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and yeah that happened the other day for mara |
| 03:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | one guy was totally silent despite me asking who had the scepter |
| 03:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | then we started purple |
| 03:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it was the most inept group of idiots i've ever seen |
| 03:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was healing and tanking on an enhancement shammy |
| 03:02.43 | zenzelezz | hm, while I did level slowly on my priest, I went to 57 on mostly Discipline, shield+pain+wand... guess it could be considered painful in retrospect |
| 03:02.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i "got disconnected" about 10 minutes in |
| 03:03.01 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 03:03.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | why did you do something crazy like that zenz |
| 03:03.40 | zenzelezz | cause I'm a nub to anything with a mana bar |
| 03:03.59 | zenzelezz | until I got a wand I was using damage spells, but it took too long for my taste to regenerate mana |
| 03:04.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | why you masochistic bastard |
| 03:04.21 | zenzelezz | did I mention I did 60-70 as prot spec warrior in tank gear? |
| 03:04.32 | zenzelezz | solo |
| 03:04.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i can vampiric embrace SWP fear mind flay stuff to death all day on my priest |
| 03:04.40 | Ktron | I'm starting to wonder whether I should switch my mage from fire to something else now that she's in the 50's... I'm wondering if I'm going to regret doing nothing but fire damage come BS/HP... But I guess I might even be able to avoid those zones, huh? |
| 03:04.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was killing level 28 elites at 26 on her, heh |
| 03:04.58 | Ktron | Maybe not HP, but not too much there is way fire resistant I don't think... |
| 03:05.02 | zenzelezz | but really, I am a complete noob to anything other than my warrior |
| 03:05.34 | Kaso | Mr_Rabies2 |
| 03:05.35 | Nom- | 10-20 for hunter is a cake walk |
| 03:05.41 | Nom- | Easiest 10-20 in the history of 10-20 |
| 03:05.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes kaso |
| 03:06.02 | Ktron | Nom-, yeah, but 7-10 sucks :) |
| 03:06.04 | zenzelezz | 1-10 for a hunter sucks though |
| 03:06.10 | zenzelezz | or yeah, more 7-10 |
| 03:06.16 | Nom- | Ktron: No it doesn't... |
| 03:06.22 | Kaso | im looking for a picture ive seen on sa a few times but im at a loss, its a terrified little girl holding some windows for an ebay auction, you wouldnt happen to have any ideas? |
| 03:06.23 | Nom- | You can kill mobs without them touching you |
| 03:06.29 | zenzelezz | suddenly everything is killing you and getting in your melee range |
| 03:06.31 | Ktron | Just before you get your pet? |
| 03:06.43 | Nom- | Ktron: Yeah, cake walk |
| 03:06.51 | zenzelezz | Ktron: if you find some caster mobs |
| 03:06.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, no kaso, i remember the image |
| 03:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i don't have it |
| 03:07.02 | Ktron | Hm, last time I played a hunter was like patch 1.9 |
| 03:07.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | that wa pretty freaking disturbing too |
| 03:07.09 | Ktron | maybe 1.8 |
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| 03:07.24 | Kaso | # clopedia |
| 03:07.32 | Kaso | darn, i dont even know what to look under on saclopedia |
| 03:08.01 | Nom- | Arcane Shot, Concussive Shot, Serpent Sting, strafe away keeping serpent sting up and spamming arcane shot whenever it's cooled down |
| 03:08.21 | Nom- | Unless you're still using your level 2 weapon, you can down most mobs before you even need to start strafing away |
| 03:09.31 | Nom- | The raw DPS that you do with a hunter is more than enough to make up for any shortcomings with regards to melee survivability |
| 03:09.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay uh |
| 03:10.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhhhh nevermind |
| 03:10.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't realize this addon gave me another bar for shadowform |
| 03:10.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | nifty |
| 03:10.13 | zenzelezz | if you're starting fresh on a server getting anything but drops until level 10ish takes a little effort (for a hunter) |
| 03:10.25 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Most bar mods do that :) |
| 03:10.30 | zenzelezz | but it's still not that tough, and you can take revenge when you get your pet |
| 03:10.38 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Most will give you a seperate bar for stealth in Druid Cat form too |
| 03:10.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeha |
| 03:10.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | er yeah |
| 03:11.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it didn't use to |
| 03:11.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and ive been bad at reading cosmos patch notes |
| 03:11.55 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki has a favicon at last :) |
| 03:11.59 | Nom- | woot thottbot has a dark background option |
| 03:12.38 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: about time, grats |
| 03:12.55 | Nom- | I should just use WoW head instead |
| 03:13.25 | zenzelezz | I still find "wowhead" to be a slightly odd name |
| 03:13.39 | Kirkburn | At least Wowhead looks halfway decent :P |
| 03:13.53 | Nom- | yah, it's sexy |
| 03:14.04 | Nom- | I should use it more, but force of habit takes me to Thottbot instead |
| 03:14.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | my problems with thottbot aren't thottbot's fault |
| 03:14.23 | zenzelezz | I don't think Thottbot looks very bad, especially with the ads blocked. Last time I checked wowhead I felt its way of displaying the data to be a bit cluttered for my taste |
| 03:14.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's always being hammered too much and the comments are always LOL HUNTAR ITAM |
| 03:14.44 | Nom- | wowhead is sexy with it's uber javascript stuff |
| 03:14.45 | Nom- | :) |
| 03:14.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | this isn't a hunter item luzar its a mage item bitch bitch whine whine |
| 03:15.15 | zenzelezz | "coordz plz????" "for gold visit..." |
| 03:15.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | wowhead hates it when i turn noscript on it :p |
| 03:15.39 | cladhaire | so i have a full quest database from wowhead |
| 03:15.51 | cladhaire | meaning if someone wants, they could write an in-game quest browser/search engine |
| 03:16.09 | cladhaire | i also have all items/npc's cross referenced when they have to deal with a quest, i.e. as start/end/requirement/reward/etc. |
| 03:16.16 | Fin | ooooh |
| 03:16.26 | cladhaire | but i'm not writing it =) |
| 03:16.28 | Fin | (hope warm doesn't mind, I know fuzzy doesn't) |
| 03:16.35 | Ktron | I'm a allakhazam kid, sorry |
| 03:16.44 | zenzelezz | sounds like it'd take some size in memory clad |
| 03:16.48 | cladhaire | Ktron: It'd be the same information... |
| 03:16.50 | Nom- | lol cladhaire |
| 03:16.52 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: nope |
| 03:17.11 | cladhaire | i get 60% compression at the moment |
| 03:17.14 | cladhaire | hoping to hit 35% tomorrow |
| 03:17.17 | Fin | cladhaire: I think I'll have a go at that |
| 03:17.18 | Nom- | You could probably convert that into a format to work with Cartographer quest thingy without too much trouble |
| 03:17.18 | cladhaire | depending on what I end up doing |
| 03:17.24 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 03:17.26 | cladhaire | except I won't. |
| 03:17.36 | cladhaire | not a cart fan |
| 03:17.45 | Nom- | meh, i tried other mods |
| 03:17.49 | cladhaire | its really for LightHeaded, and thats it. |
| 03:17.50 | Nom- | Cartographer seems the best I've tried |
| 03:17.58 | cladhaire | Nom-: So did I.. and I found nothing, so I wrote my own =) |
| 03:18.19 | zenzelezz | by the way, off topic... is a short series of "if"s significantly faster than just running a lot of string.match()es? |
| 03:18.33 | Iriel | zenzelezz: depends what the if's are |
| 03:18.43 | Ktron | Cartographer should pick up a few more of the best parts of Atlas |
| 03:19.06 | Nom- | If Cartographer fixed the loot display issues for instances |
| 03:19.13 | Nom- | ie. Broke up heroic/non-heroic loot |
| 03:19.19 | Ktron | And I'd love to see Yatlas maybe get a little influence into Cartographer too |
| 03:19.21 | Nom- | Then it'd be just about perfect for me |
| 03:19.22 | zenzelezz | Iriel: basically I'm just playing around with combat log messages; at the moment I'm running a series of ifs to check which message it is, and only string.match()ing for the values I know that message can use |
| 03:19.27 | zenzelezz | but I don't know if it's actually worth it |
| 03:19.36 | Iriel | What are you comparing in the if's though? |
| 03:19.41 | Iriel | Are you doing if event == "SOMETHING" ? |
| 03:19.49 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 03:19.59 | Iriel | string equality tests are VERY fast |
| 03:20.21 | cladhaire | yay for interned strings |
| 03:20.31 | zenzelezz | so I could actually gain a little, albeit perhaps not anythign noticable, by doing it like I am? |
| 03:20.50 | Iriel | You could potentially gain quite significant improvements if you can reduce the number of string.match'es |
| 03:20.57 | Iriel | since those are (relatively) slow |
| 03:21.22 | zenzelezz | that's what I was thinking when I started, but I'm fairly noob about the lua speeds so far. Cheers :-) |
| 03:21.24 | cladhaire | night all |
| 03:22.45 | Nom- | Most of the speed issues are common sense imho |
| 03:22.56 | Nom- | I mean, just think about what your brain would do |
| 03:23.06 | Nom- | IF ("BLAH" == "BLAH") THEN ... |
| 03:23.22 | Nom- | You can immediately and quickly tell that matches |
| 03:23.48 | Nom- | Whereas, as you'd imagine, a .match requires some further thinking |
| 03:23.51 | Nom- | Like case insentivity |
| 03:23.52 | Iriel | Nom- It does depend what you're used to.. if you're expecting that to end up as strcmp(stringa, stringb) in C, then it's not necessarily THAT fast |
| 03:24.49 | Nom- | Iriel: Nah, for the most part, common sense is a good guide |
| 03:25.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | ummm @______@ |
| 03:25.09 | Nom- | I mean, you'd expect a case insitive match to be slower |
| 03:25.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | this mage just hit me for 1300 at 49 |
| 03:25.13 | Nom- | insensitive |
| 03:25.19 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: That's doable :) |
| 03:25.36 | Nom- | which spell? |
| 03:25.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | fireball |
| 03:25.47 | zenzelezz | not to mention when it needs to find patterns as well |
| 03:25.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like 70% of my HP |
| 03:26.00 | Nom- | Fireball base is 392 - 506 |
| 03:26.36 | Nom- | That's untalented and with no spell damage gear |
| 03:27.28 | Nom- | so the target is about 866 |
| 03:27.42 | Nom- | you'd be able to get arcane power by level 49 |
| 03:27.50 | Nom- | That's 30% damage boost |
| 03:28.16 | Nom- | That's not even close to an arcane power crit |
| 03:28.55 | Nom- | hang on rethinks |
| 03:30.31 | JoshBorke | i hate when i copy someone's code and i can't get it to work |
| 03:30.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | only thing i have that hits harder than that at 70 is ravage and ferocious bite, and that's only <leather |
| 03:31.02 | Nom- | yeah it's doable |
| 03:31.05 | Nom- | arcane build |
| 03:31.24 | Nom- | how much int did he have? any idea? |
| 03:31.46 | Nom- | oh well doesn't matter, let's assume an arcane power/mind mastery build |
| 03:31.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | no clue |
| 03:32.04 | Nom- | 506 * 1.3 * 1.75 (crit) |
| 03:32.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was horde |
| 03:32.18 | Nom- | That's 1151 damage |
| 03:32.22 | Nom- | as a top end |
| 03:32.40 | Nom- | That doesn't take into account any spell damage bonus from his intellect or gear |
| 03:32.43 | Ktron | Mr_Rabies I'm a mage, and I've done that |
| 03:32.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | jesus christ thats a ton of damage |
| 03:33.00 | Kirkburn | Awesome clock - http://beeks.eu/swf/timeline.swf |
| 03:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom's an awesome clock |
| 03:33.16 | Nom- | With a mind mastery build, 25% of intellect beocmes spell damage, which is a raw damage inscrease on spell damge |
| 03:33.22 | Ktron | I just installed TopFu or whatever, we'll see what numbers I can get at 52 |
| 03:33.33 | Ktron | And I'm a 'pure' fire mage |
| 03:33.37 | Nom- | Plus gear, which, although there isn't much, weapon enchant or glove/bracer adds a bit |
| 03:34.35 | Nom- | assuming he has 300int, that's an extra 75 damage (131 crit) |
| 03:34.56 | Nom- | then assume another 100 raw spell damage (easy iwth just enchants), that's 100 damage (175 crit) |
| 03:35.02 | JoshBorke | time for bed jonny! |
| 03:35.07 | JoshBorke | time for breakfast jonny! |
| 03:35.22 | Ktron | If I can figure out Top ScoreFu |
| 03:35.22 | Nom- | So 1300 on a fireball crit is insanely easy to reach at level 49 |
| 03:35.22 | JoshBorke | (delayed responsed to Mr_Rabies2 comment) |
| 03:35.22 | Kirkburn | Sleep Breakfast, yum |
| 03:35.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't see her pop AP |
| 03:35.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that doesn't mean she didn't |
| 03:35.57 | Nom- | What's the character name Mr_Rabies2 ? |
| 03:36.04 | Nom- | We've got Armory for these things now :P |
| 03:36.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't even remember |
| 03:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't even think of that |
| 03:36.28 | Nom- | scroll back in combat log ? |
| 03:36.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | was too long ago |
| 03:36.43 | Nom- | blah kk |
| 03:37.15 | Ktron | Hm |
| 03:37.19 | Ktron | Anyone use Top ScoreFu? |
| 03:37.25 | Ktron | I can't figure out how to 'get' the data |
| 03:38.28 | JoshBorke | hover over the top score fu icon |
| 03:40.13 | FlAWD | and shift click on it to display it in chat |
| 03:40.15 | Ktron | I got a beta version, I don't think it was solid |
| 03:40.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | man it would be awesome to have an army of trained attack bears to do my bidding |
| 03:40.29 | Ktron | I'm trying the stable version now |
| 03:40.36 | Ktron | hovering showed nothing, even after killing some things |
| 03:40.43 | JoshBorke | Ktron: did you click it? |
| 03:40.49 | Ktron | Anyway, I got a 1099 crit on my 3rd fireball just now |
| 03:40.53 | Ktron | JoshBorke, yeah |
| 03:40.58 | Ktron | JoshBorke, idk what was wrong |
| 03:40.59 | FlAWD | did you get any new record splash screens? |
| 03:41.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | at what level Ktron? |
| 03:41.04 | JoshBorke | mine just shows up |
| 03:41.06 | Ktron | JoshBorke, but /rl made it error |
| 03:41.10 | Ktron | Mr_Rabies 52 |
| 03:41.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could live with 1099 |
| 03:41.36 | Ktron | And that's not my 'best' by any means |
| 03:41.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | but 1300 with no signs of AP /cry |
| 03:41.39 | FlAWD | hehe my 39 twink mage crits for 1000 frostbolts :X |
| 03:41.47 | Ktron | if Top ScoreFu works now, I'll run around a little and let me you know |
| 03:42.18 | Tem | FlAWD, lol.. when I was 60 and shitty gear my frostbolt crits were 1k |
| 03:42.42 | Tem | but that was shortly after release when +damage gear didn't exist |
| 03:42.55 | FlAWD | that's including BC enchants, 40 damage to weapon, 20 to bracers and gloves .. etc |
| 03:43.33 | FlAWD | oh Ktron, get the WoWAceUpdater |
| 03:43.41 | FlAWD | for all your FuBar addons |
| 03:43.42 | FlAWD | and others |
| 03:43.46 | Ktron | WoWAceUpdater? |
| 03:43.47 | FlAWD | it's the best, I love it |
| 03:43.50 | FlAWD | yea |
| 03:43.57 | FlAWD | updates all your Ace2 addons in one shot |
| 03:43.58 | Ktron | and Actually, that didn't fix it either |
| 03:44.01 | Ktron | Either I can't understand how to use Top ScoreFu |
| 03:44.03 | FlAWD | simple little program |
| 03:44.08 | Ktron | or... it just isn't working |
| 03:44.15 | FlAWD | do /topfu |
| 03:44.18 | FlAWD | see if you get anything |
| 03:44.53 | Ktron | tells me the icon's on, text's on, colortext on, detachtooltip off, position right, minimapattach off, standby active... |
| 03:45.26 | FlAWD | weird |
| 03:45.36 | JoshBorke | something's broken |
| 03:45.43 | Ktron | What's weirder is if I right click on it, in the filter/purge lists the spells I cast show up |
| 03:46.08 | Ktron | maybe an addon conflict?... |
| 03:46.33 | FlAWD | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=178751 |
| 03:46.38 | FlAWD | if you're interested in the updater |
| 03:46.54 | FlAWD | just extract the zip file to your root WoW directory and run wowaceupdater.exe |
| 03:46.58 | JoshBorke | Ktron: try detaching the tooltip |
| 03:47.57 | Ktron | nada... I'm going to disable a bunch of addons and see if it works |
| 03:48.05 | Ktron | ...after I get ganked by a 70 NE |
| 03:49.14 | JoshBorke | hrm, odd. if i set my frame position before PLAYER_LOGIN (ie VARIABLES_LOADED), the position i set my frame ends up being different than if i do it after PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 03:49.31 | Iriel | JoshBorke: uiScale.. layout-cache |
| 03:50.15 | JoshBorke | yea, i read on wowwiki now that i'm supposed to wait until PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 03:50.40 | Ktron | Oh wait |
| 03:50.49 | Ktron | Does TopFu reuquire the mobs are 'my level' ish? |
| 03:52.05 | Ktron | doh |
| 03:52.06 | Ktron | it does |
| 03:52.10 | Ktron | problem solved |
| 03:52.48 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 03:53.22 | Ktron | Wait, no it does |
| 03:53.23 | Ktron | *doesn't |
| 03:53.28 | Ktron | idk, but it working now :) |
| 03:53.43 | JoshBorke | it doesn't record critter stuff |
| 03:54.42 | Ktron | nah, it wasn't working on the scorpids/basilisks just outside of Gadgetzan (40-41) until... who knows what |
| 03:55.08 | Ktron | until I killed a mob that's green for me |
| 03:55.16 | Ktron | and not grey |
| 04:02.30 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 04:02.33 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn tightly until Cairenn turns slightly blue |
| 04:02.33 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 04:02.40 | Cairenn | night JoshBorke |
| 04:02.44 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.29 | Kirkburn | Btw, it appears MS just announced the Xbox 360 Elite - http://www.courant.com/business/hc-xbox0328.artmar28,0,129907.story?coll=hc-headlines-business |
| 04:07.33 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Nom- (n=nom@standen.id.au) |
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| 04:17.42 | Nom- | 3 hours it takes to kill the router :( |
| 04:17.57 | Nom- | At least it will hopefully only die one more time before I don't have to work any more |
| 04:19.31 | Tem | ... this makes no sense |
| 04:19.43 | Tem | the insertion time gets lower with more elements in the tree |
| 04:19.53 | Iriel | Tree or hash? |
| 04:20.00 | Tem | 2-3-4 tree |
| 04:20.04 | Iriel | is it related to how frequently or infrequently it has to re-balance? |
| 04:20.13 | Tem | That's what I guess |
| 04:20.14 | Tem | but like... |
| 04:20.33 | Tem | maybe it's because I'm only looking at the 2^i elements |
| 04:20.36 | Iriel | or are you accidently measuring more than just insertion time? |
| 04:21.18 | Tem | definitely not measuring more than insertion time |
| 04:22.23 | Iriel | How are you comparing insertion time? |
| 04:22.29 | Iriel | total? or per node? |
| 04:22.29 | Tem | timer.start(); t.add(e); return timer.stop(); |
| 04:22.39 | Tem | just total time |
| 04:22.40 | Iriel | Because per-node SHOULD get cheaper with more elements, since it's O(log n) |
| 04:22.41 | Tem | it's a big table |
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| 04:23.17 | Tem | I think the root of them problem is my system is too fast for me to see it |
| 04:23.25 | Tem | s/them/the/ |
| 04:23.31 | Iriel | Do it 100 times then? |
| 04:23.48 | Iriel | I usually increase repetitions until I have a couple of significant digits in my timings |
| 04:23.49 | Tem | 500000 times |
| 04:24.29 | Tem | insertions are taking about 3 micro seconds when it doesn't have to split nodes |
| 04:25.29 | Tem | (oh, actually more than 500k, I'm doing the 2^19 insertions) |
| 04:25.30 | Thrae | Tem: Making some type of BST? |
| 04:25.43 | Tem | Thrae, shitty homework assignment |
| 04:26.10 | Thrae | Tem: Whatcha need to code? |
| 04:26.46 | Tem | I'm done with the progran, but I'm supposed to submit a readme with "empirical analasys" of the results |
| 04:26.51 | Tem | s/gran/gram/ |
| 04:26.55 | Tem | Thrae, 2-3-4 tree |
| 04:27.20 | Tem | btw, if you ever had to write one, call "NOT IT" on writing the delete method |
| 04:27.25 | Tem | removal is a bitch beyond words |
| 04:28.29 | Thrae | One thing I don't like about Lua...no fun with void pointers, trees, etc. I haven't figured out an ADT which is better then the built-in hash table implementation, since it would need to use the table anyway... |
| 04:28.49 | Thrae | Tem: Who the hell uses a 2-3-4 tree |
| 04:28.54 | Tem | no one? |
| 04:29.04 | Tem | it's completely pointless imo |
| 04:29.12 | Thrae | At least a Red-Black tree is useful, it has multiple trees combined into one |
| 04:29.16 | Tem | heh |
| 04:29.34 | Iriel | Thrae: There's little point with your own ADT's for most stuff in lua, exept maybe for complex tree structures |
| 04:29.34 | Tem | B trees are useful for big chunks of data per node |
| 04:29.46 | Iriel | Thrae: But even then you're often better off mapping them onto a table |
| 04:30.05 | Thrae | Iriel: Exactly my point |
| 04:30.43 | Tem | I implemented an AVL tree in lua for fun once |
| 04:30.52 | Tem | it was fun |
| 04:31.10 | Thrae | I never got to really use my void* vector in C |
| 04:31.35 | Nom- | hmmmm Tem what language ? |
| 04:31.41 | Tem | Java |
| 04:31.52 | Tem | (also, oh god this code is nasty) |
| 04:32.01 | Nom- | Java is the devil's spawn. |
| 04:32.12 | Tem | I disagree wholeheartedly |
| 04:32.16 | Thrae | Tem: You're using Java for this project? |
| 04:32.31 | Tem | Thrae, it was either C/C++ or Java |
| 04:32.40 | Nom- | C++ would have been betterer |
| 04:32.49 | Tem | if I'm writing oop, I'd rather be in Java ANY day of the week over C/C++ |
| 04:33.02 | Tem | I despise C++ |
| 04:33.03 | Nom- | At least you wouldn't need satanic rituals to get things to build... |
| 04:33.07 | Tem | 's oop syntax |
| 04:33.13 | Thrae | Well depending on how many packages they let you use in Java for the project, I would have picked C++ too |
| 04:33.34 | Tem | Nom-, what's so dificult about javac ./*/*.java |
| 04:33.38 | Tem | java main.Main |
| 04:34.09 | Thrae | Writing a database implementation for Java isn't nearly as educational as writing one in C++ |
| 04:34.09 | Tem | plus, I don't have a C++ IDE that tells me when I've made syntax mistakes before I even compile |
| 04:34.27 | Nom- | pfft |
| 04:34.33 | Nom- | There's heaps of them around |
| 04:34.35 | Tem | which is hella useful |
| 04:34.44 | Nom- | Personally, I don't use any kind of IDE for my coding |
| 04:34.45 | Thrae | Tem: If you're using Windows, Visual Studio Express is free |
| 04:34.47 | Nom- | VIM is all I need |
| 04:35.08 | Tem | Nom-, perhaps you'd like to spew your elitism somewhere else |
| 04:35.17 | Thrae | If you're using *nix or Mac, then VIM of course |
| 04:35.40 | Tem | I'm not in the mood and I still have a paragraph to bullshit before I can turn this thing in at midnight |
| 04:35.43 | Tem | (30 minutes from now) |
| 04:35.45 | Nom- | Tem: No, here is quite fine. :) |
| 04:36.35 | Thrae | Tem: You must be CST |
| 04:36.38 | Nom- | I don't *really* have much against Java anymore...not after discovering Eclipse and its' Perl plugin lately |
| 04:36.52 | Tem | Thrae, *nod* |
| 04:36.59 | Nom- | I use Vim for all my work coding, and Eclipse for all my @ home coding |
| 04:37.18 | Shirik | wah |
| 04:37.22 | Shirik | why do I always miss the cool conversations |
| 04:37.28 | Shirik | Tem |
| 04:37.28 | Tem | I love eclipse, but it crashes all the fucking time in vista |
| 04:37.31 | Shirik | you make me cry |
| 04:37.33 | Tem | and that's driving me nuts |
| 04:37.36 | Shirik | You hate C++? |
| 04:37.39 | Tem | no |
| 04:37.43 | Shirik | You despise it |
| 04:37.48 | Tem | I hit enter when trying to hit ' |
| 04:37.56 | Tem | I hate C++'s oop syntax |
| 04:37.57 | Shirik | oooh |
| 04:37.57 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:38.01 | Shirik | anyway |
| 04:38.03 | Tem | also, multiple inheritance is the suck |
| 04:38.04 | Shirik | Eclipse is a POS |
| 04:38.05 | Shirik | you're right |
| 04:38.14 | Tem | I LOVE eclipse |
| 04:38.19 | Tem | but the crashing is annoying me |
| 04:38.19 | Shirik | You do?! |
| 04:38.23 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:38.28 | Shirik | Well... I really just can't stand it |
| 04:38.33 | Shirik | What do you use it for, Java? |
| 04:38.36 | Tem | yeah |
| 04:38.38 | Bleeter | meh, vim is for lazy people. real coders use vi :P |
| 04:38.38 | Thrae | If you're using bloated Windows and a common language, might as well use any IDE that you like |
| 04:38.46 | Shirik | Ever tried Netbeans? |
| 04:38.55 | Shirik | I switched to Netbeans from Eclipse and haven't looked back |
| 04:39.02 | Bleeter | s/vi /hexedit / |
| 04:39.04 | Tem | no, a friend of mine tried to get me to use it |
| 04:39.05 | Tem | but like |
| 04:39.06 | Nom- | Shirik: Netbeans doesn't have a Perl plugin last I checked |
| 04:39.10 | Tem | I already have Eclipse installed |
| 04:39.14 | Shirik | I don't know, I don't touch perl tbh |
| 04:39.14 | Nom- | Shirik: Which makes it utterly useless for anything but Perl |
| 04:39.20 | Nom- | s/Perl/Java/ |
| 04:39.21 | Thrae | I say GVIM for Lua because it has the best syntax highlighting by far, and testing on WoW is annoying |
| 04:39.23 | Tem | and I only write like 5 programs a semester |
| 04:39.26 | Shirik | True, but I only use it for Java |
| 04:39.37 | Tem | SciTe for lua |
| 04:39.38 | Shirik | I have VS2003 for most other things, and a few other random editors floating around |
| 04:39.41 | Shirik | SciTE for lua, yes |
| 04:39.56 | Shirik | ... |
| 04:40.01 | Shirik | Cairenn = teh sux |
| 04:40.04 | Nom- | See, unless I get Visual Studio .NET, there's no decent Perl IDE's |
| 04:40.09 | Shirik | She sends me a PM and then dces |
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| 04:40.21 | Shirik | wb |
| 04:40.24 | Bleeter | wb Cairenn |
| 04:40.32 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 04:40.32 | Thrae | GVIM's syntax highlighting is better then SCiTE's |
| 04:40.33 | Nom- | There's a pretty nice plugin for Visual Studio .NET by ActiveState, but that's about it |
| 04:40.40 | zenzelezz | let's do some out-of-context copy/paste, for kicks |
| 04:40.46 | zenzelezz | <Shirik> Cairenn = teh sux |
| 04:40.51 | Shirik | You suck |
| 04:41.02 | Shirik | 00:40:06 ‹Shirik› Cairenn = teh sux |
| 04:41.02 | Shirik | 00:40:08 ‹Nom-› See, unless I get Visual Studio .NET, there's no decent Perl IDE's |
| 04:41.02 | Shirik | 00:40:13 ‹Shirik› She sends me a PM and then dces |
| 04:41.11 | Cairenn | yeah, that really sucked |
| 04:41.13 | zenzelezz | at least I was honest enough to say it was OOC :-p |
| 04:41.21 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:41.46 | Thrae | With kergoth's help, my *nix GVIM setup is pretty sweet, I like it a lot. |
| 04:41.49 | Cairenn | I'm sitting here cursing the blasted thing for deciding to crap out right then |
| 04:42.21 | Nom- | Cairenn: You hitting on Shirik again? |
| 04:42.35 | Nom- | You've gotta leave those boys alone... |
| 04:42.36 | Thrae | kergoth is hardcore...I don't use the oldstyle vi commands as much as other GVIM/VIM fanatics |
| 04:43.34 | Nom- | hmm anyone here a pianist ? |
| 04:45.23 | Nom- | Tempted to take it up again lol...it's been years |
| 04:45.57 | Thrae | Does BottomScanner scan forever until it finds another deal? |
| 04:46.31 | Bleeter | yeah, it's looking at the most recent items added to the AH |
| 04:46.54 | Thrae | So I guess I should stop it eventually ;) |
| 04:47.39 | Thrae | heh, just noticed bad pun in topic |
| 04:48.32 | Shirik | Pianos are ftl |
| 04:48.37 | Shirik | Pick up a real instrument, like a Cello |
| 04:48.40 | Shirik | that's what I play |
| 04:48.49 | Shirik | The manly string instrument |
| 04:48.56 | Shirik | Look at Yo Yo Ma |
| 04:49.02 | Shirik | Yeah, you know all the girls hit on him |
| 04:49.29 | Bleeter | course, if you wanted musical versatility on an upright string bowed instrument, you'd go double bass |
| 04:50.00 | Shirik | too big |
| 04:50.01 | Shirik | :P |
| 04:50.05 | Shirik | Girls don't want it too big |
| 04:50.06 | Shirik | it won't fit |
| 04:50.11 | Shirik | They want just the right size |
| 04:50.46 | Bleeter | it's not how big it is, it's what you do with it. And can't do as much with a cello as you can with a double bass. |
| 04:51.12 | Ktron | Cello's nimbler. |
| 04:51.21 | Shirik | You're right, there are far more solos written for Cellos than there are for Contrabasses |
| 04:51.27 | Shirik | They typically have to work alone :( |
| 04:52.12 | Shirik | Hmm |
| 04:52.13 | Bleeter | 'n you'd get a cello into a folk band, double basses can do that *and* jazz/rock etc. :P |
| 04:52.19 | Shirik | you think I scared Nom- away? |
| 04:52.45 | Shirik | Yeah, but cellos get into almost any quartet |
| 04:52.50 | Shirik | how many basses do that? |
| 04:52.53 | Bleeter | you'd prolly get more girls playing the upright in a rock band than at some classical gig :P |
| 04:53.06 | Shirik | yeah but we're talking about a 4 way here |
| 04:53.13 | Bleeter | *girls, by pla.. |
| 04:53.27 | Ktron | after about however long of playing my 52 mage, Fireball's records are 721/1077 |
| 04:54.10 | Bleeter | most of those rock bands are 4 piece, too :P |
| 04:54.30 | Bleeter | hey, you were the one after the gr1lz :P |
| 04:54.38 | Shirik | Classical lovers are safer |
| 04:54.54 | Shirik | They're more dignified |
| 04:55.07 | Shirik | This has got to be one of the strangest conversations I've ever had on IRC |
| 04:55.17 | Shirik | I should think more when I type |
| 04:56.28 | Bleeter | I played in orchestras, big bands, rock bands, folk groups, brass bands for 10-15 years... I'd agree that it's easier to chat up chicks away from the pub circuit, 'coz they're not shitfaced |
| 04:56.57 | Bleeter | but I don't equate a connection there to the sober chick being any more dignified... there are morons no matter where you go |
| 04:57.05 | Bleeter | *classical sober ... |
| 04:57.10 | Shirik | This is true |
| 04:57.13 | zenzelezz | Shirik: you call this strange? Your IRC must be dull |
| 04:57.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Nom- (n=nom@standen.id.au) |
| 04:57.18 | Shirik | It is :( |
| 04:57.34 | Shirik | Nom- is all I have, and he ran away from me :( |
| 04:57.45 | zenzelezz | I remember spending 30 minutes on a different channel, everyone swapping words in movie titles with "sheep", and worse |
| 04:57.56 | Shirik | that's almost as bad as the murlock thing |
| 04:57.59 | Shirik | did that ever hit your server? |
| 04:58.11 | zenzelezz | don't know what that was |
| 04:58.23 | Shirik | exactly the same thing, but with "murlock" instead of "sheep" |
| 04:58.26 | Shirik | 24/7 |
| 04:58.28 | zenzelezz | but my guild had a murloc impersonation contest over voice chat during an Onyxia raid |
| 04:58.31 | Shirik | trade, general, LFG |
| 04:58.32 | Shirik | it all |
| 04:58.44 | Shirik | everywhere. |
| 04:58.56 | Shirik | Was on our server for probably about 2 weeks straight |
| 04:59.06 | zenzelezz | doing think I saw that |
| 04:59.12 | Shirik | I know it hopped from server to server for a while, surely not all were hit |
| 04:59.29 | zenzelezz | maybe it happened while I was still Barrens level, all I ever saw was Chuck Norris |
| 04:59.33 | Nom- | Stupid router lockups |
| 04:59.48 | Shirik | Nom- you're using a Belkin aren't you |
| 04:59.55 | Shirik | wait don't answer tha |
| 04:59.55 | Nom- | Yes, Shirik |
| 04:59.56 | Shirik | tlet me find out |
| 04:59.58 | Shirik | oh? |
| 05:00.24 | Shirik | erk, I can't run nmap on your host |
| 05:00.29 | Shirik | but yeah belkin ftl |
| 05:02.40 | Nom- | There's nothing wrong with Belkin |
| 05:02.54 | Nom- | Everyone I've spoken to with this router has had no problems |
| 05:03.00 | Shirik | I just am really biased toward Linksys |
| 05:03.11 | Nom- | lol |
| 05:03.14 | Shirik | granted, first I ever got, but works amazingly well, and their tech support is good to boot |
| 05:03.34 | Nom- | I did a google search on "belkin cisco vpn lockup" and found nothing but articles about Linksys router lockups |
| 05:03.37 | Nom- | :P |
| 05:03.46 | Shirik | surely by people who don't know what they're doing :P |
| 05:03.50 | Shirik | PEBKAC |
| 05:04.24 | Nom- | Well, no router should lock up from having traffic passed through it |
| 05:04.29 | Nom- | So *shrug* |
| 05:04.58 | Shirik | didn't yours just do that :P |
| 05:05.15 | Shirik | oh actually I remembe |
| 05:05.15 | Shirik | r |
| 05:05.28 | Shirik | there was a vulnerability in Linksys routers with UPnP enabled |
| 05:05.40 | Shirik | you could get them to lock up with a correctly manipulated packet |
| 05:05.52 | Nom- | Well, i've thrown everything I can at this router in the past |
| 05:06.00 | Shirik | they did release a firmware patch to resolve that though |
| 05:06.05 | Nom- | including swarming 500+ connections to download torrents |
| 05:06.13 | Nom- | Nothing phased it before I loaded the Cisco VPN client yesterday |
| 05:07.04 | Nom- | And, I've never had to use the Cisco VPN client before yesterday :( |
| 05:07.11 | Nom- | Standard Windows VPN is usually fine |
| 05:10.22 | Shirik | I think Cisco's VPN specifically manipulates packets to kill any Belkin routers so you are forced to buy theirs. |
| 05:10.32 | Shirik | It's a conspiracy I tell you! |
| 05:11.17 | Thrae | Linksys WRT54GL w/ OpenWRT FTW |
| 05:11.27 | Shirik | um |
| 05:11.42 | Shirik | Linksys EW5HUB |
| 05:11.47 | Shirik | with |
| 05:11.52 | Shirik | *cries* Windows ICS |
| 05:12.02 | Nom- | I've got a Linksys WAG54G somewhere |
| 05:12.16 | Nom- | Used it before I got the Belkin (for inbuild VoIP) |
| 05:13.15 | Nom- | Fire mage is so much fun now lol |
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| 05:24.39 | Shirik | Does anyone else have their chat window randomly move around? |
| 05:24.50 | Nom- | Nope |
| 05:24.55 | Nom- | It stays where it's told to |
| 05:24.58 | Shirik | it's so strange |
| 05:24.59 | Shirik | it seems like |
| 05:25.05 | Shirik | extremely rarely, like once every two hours |
| 05:25.09 | Shirik | it moves up or down about 50 pixels |
| 05:25.23 | Thrae | Delete your frame cache .wtf file |
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| 05:25.36 | Shirik | will try that later thanks |
| 05:27.17 | Nom- | I need to learn to schedule downloads after midnight now :/ |
| 05:35.57 | Tem | oh yeah |
| 05:36.01 | Tem | that's why I have a headache |
| 05:36.23 | Tem | all I've eaten today is a bag of chips and a snickers bar |
| 05:38.15 | Tem|Food | hmm |
| 05:38.20 | Tem|Food | canes or wendy's |
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| 06:01.40 | Tem|Food | yum |
| 06:03.12 | Kirkburn | Tem, glad to hear you'll stop pestering me :) |
| 06:03.22 | Kirkburn | Now, can you kill every spider within 100 metres of me? |
| 06:03.28 | Tem | it looks nice too :) |
| 06:03.37 | Tem | Kirkburn, only if you spell meter right |
| 06:03.46 | Kirkburn | How about yards? |
| 06:03.53 | Tem | I don't understand yards |
| 06:04.09 | Tem | the english system for measurement is dumb |
| 06:04.18 | ckknight | NO U |
| 06:04.19 | Tem | I have *no idea* why we haven't switched to metric |
| 06:04.22 | Kirkburn | 10 furlongs |
| 06:04.34 | ckknight | I get 8 furlongs to the hogshead and that's the way I like it |
| 06:05.03 | Kirkburn | 1 and a bit hogsheads then |
| 06:05.19 | Kirkburn | Widdershins, of course |
| 06:06.16 | Kirkburn | Same damn type of spider that scared the bejeesus out of me last term |
| 06:06.35 | Kirkburn | At least this time it wasn't on my arm |
| 06:06.54 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:07.06 | Nom- | that TBC intro movie gives me goosebumps every time |
| 06:07.21 | Kirkburn | The murlocs, I bet :P |
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| 06:07.58 | Kirkburn | I remember I had a nightmare about crypt spiders when my char was levelling in EPl |
| 06:08.02 | Nom- | pretty much the whole thing in general |
| 06:08.18 | Nom- | They're goosebumps of anticipation |
| 06:08.24 | Nom- | And I can't play it for another 3 hours |
| 06:08.26 | Corrodias | speaking of HBO |
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| 06:08.40 | Corrodias | they also apparently have a show, "Cathouse" |
| 06:09.07 | Kirkburn | Meeeow |
| 06:09.34 | Tem | Kirkburn, I just read that in the most rediculous way possible |
| 06:09.44 | Tem | I slap you for this |
| 06:09.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it some kind of cat-house hybrid |
| 06:10.03 | ckknight | lol. |
| 06:10.53 | Corrodias | it's a show about a brothel outside reno, if i remember the description |
| 06:10.53 | Corrodias | documentary, in a way |
| 06:13.22 | Tem | wow, that was my guess |
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| 06:13.26 | Corrodias | it's not about a cat who diagnoses lupis |
| 06:13.26 | Tem | didn't guess the reno part (I wasn't thinking of a location at all) |
| 06:13.26 | Tem | but I was definitely guessing a brothel |
| 06:13.26 | Nom- | The opening cinematics are just so awesome |
| 06:13.27 | Nom- | Unfortunately they're actually better than the game itself :P |
| 06:13.27 | Corrodias | tem wins a prize! nothingness! |
| 06:13.29 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJvynkfu7c |
| 06:13.29 | ckknight | ^--- watch |
| 06:13.31 | Kirkburn | Tem, you read it as if you were a Jovian sperm whale? |
| 06:13.31 | Corrodias | im rollin' with SAG |
| 06:13.31 | Thrae | House never diagnoses Lupis, it's Foreman who always thinks it's either Lupis or Sarcoidosis (man, those diseases must have a hundred symptoms) |
| 06:13.31 | Kirkburn | Lupus |
| 06:13.32 | Nom- | "With it being on the news and all" |
| 06:13.32 | Corrodias | not when -i- spell it |
| 06:13.33 | Kirkburn | har-de-har-har |
| 06:13.33 | Corrodias | and i've never seen House :( |
| 06:13.33 | Tem | ckknight, that guy is TERRIBLE at doing a texas accent |
| 06:13.33 | ckknight | totally. |
| 06:13.33 | Tem | TERRIBLE |
| 06:13.33 | Tem | and that's annoying me |
| 06:13.33 | Kirkburn | It's you, isn't it. |
| 06:14.03 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:14.03 | ckknight | Kirkburn: lol, yea |
| 06:14.03 | Tem | Kirkburn, no, it's annoying me because I could do much better |
| 06:14.03 | ckknight | it's meant to be funny |
| 06:14.03 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:14.03 | Tem | I'm too distracted by the poor texas accent to enjoy the funny |
| 06:14.08 | ckknight | do you have any tips? |
| 06:14.15 | Corrodias | he slurred 40 words. and that's TERRIBLE. |
| 06:14.41 | Tem | ckknight, the pitching is off |
| 06:14.46 | ckknight | pitching? |
| 06:14.57 | Tem | I could explain it if you could hear me |
| 06:15.04 | Kirkburn | I love how he does the raising his voice at the end of every clause thing |
| 06:15.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | huhwha |
| 06:15.15 | Tem | yeah, that's what I'm talking about, Kirkburn |
| 06:15.25 | Kirkburn | Like everything he says is a question |
| 06:15.31 | Kirkburn | God I wish you could show this in IRC |
| 06:15.38 | ckknight | lol, yea, I noticed I was doing that, too |
| 06:15.55 | Corrodias | i SAID THATS TERRIBLE |
| 06:16.01 | Tem | the texas accent doesn't do that |
| 06:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was too busy working on coloring a zombie |
| 06:16.10 | ckknight | I'm supposed to be from Iowa |
| 06:16.22 | Kirkburn | Aww, painting my colours, or are you still on crayons? |
| 06:16.27 | Tem | though, really, I'm better at the general hick accent than the texas accent |
| 06:16.29 | Kirkburn | Did you have to join the dots first? |
| 06:16.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/Osmethae/tattoo5.jpg to http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q214/Osmethae/tattoo5.jpg |
| 06:16.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | meh |
| 06:16.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | needs more work still |
| 06:16.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm lazy |
| 06:17.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | er oops |
| 06:17.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 06:17.13 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 06:17.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was like ...wait. |
| 06:17.15 | Kirkburn | I was gonna say |
| 06:17.26 | Kirkburn | You haven't got very far :P |
| 06:17.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=result43pj8.jpg |
| 06:17.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | there we go |
| 06:17.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | :D |
| 06:17.47 | Tem | oh my |
| 06:18.00 | Kirkburn | Aww, I was so expecting childlike scrawls |
| 06:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it is if you look at what i was actually working with |
| 06:18.35 | Kirkburn | v cool though, I must say |
| 06:18.52 | Kirkburn | And capitalise your 'I's damn you! :) |
| 06:19.08 | Corrodias | hahaha |
| 06:19.19 | Corrodias | i am not a proper noun. i am a person! |
| 06:19.39 | Kirkburn | You're a reeeall person? |
| 06:19.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't bother with capitalization on irc or forums |
| 06:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | too much effort |
| 06:19.51 | Corrodias | re: the picture rabies posted: hey, i think that's one of our priests. ;) |
| 06:19.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, some forums |
| 06:20.06 | Tem | wtf... |
| 06:20.14 | Tem | Why can't I burn a simple file dvd in vista? |
| 06:20.18 | Tem | why do I fail so hard? |
| 06:20.41 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies2, so your username is Catbutts? Nice ... |
| 06:20.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 06:20.47 | Kirkburn | Tem, cos you pester to much |
| 06:20.57 | Kirkburn | Vista got fed up of you asking it for a favicon |
| 06:22.00 | Tem | I think I burned this disk, but when I go to look at its contents, it asks me to pick a name to burn to a new disk |
| 06:22.00 | Tem | ah nevermind |
| 06:22.11 | Tem | it's just stupid |
| 06:22.11 | Corrodias | yes it is |
| 06:22.14 | Tem | and assumes the disk to be empty until it finishes reading it |
| 06:23.31 | Tem | I got a bit crazy downloading anime and I've run myself out of space |
| 06:23.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have an undead character named catbutt i used to check on barov at the bulwark to kill him |
| 06:23.40 | Kirkburn | "anime", sure |
| 06:23.54 | Tem | you wanna see? |
| 06:23.56 | Corrodias | the first part of episode 4 is about guys having a hard time keeping it up, hah |
| 06:24.25 | Thrae | Tem: I like a program called "FreeMeter" to walk through directories, looking at their total size |
| 06:24.37 | Tem | oh threa, I know where the space is... |
| 06:24.47 | Tem | it's all under "Downloads" |
| 06:25.02 | Thrae | Oh, Anime you say? What a coincidence, I'm just getting myself updated after not downloading anime for ~2 months |
| 06:25.16 | Thrae | I think my list is up to ~30GB now |
| 06:25.31 | Thrae | I still need to burn off ~300GB of watched anime |
| 06:25.58 | Tem | yeah |
| 06:26.07 | Corrodias | i... have a ton of junk on my drives |
| 06:26.10 | Tem | I have somewhere around 120gigs of watched anime |
| 06:26.17 | Corrodias | mostly gigs and gigs of porn, but also some anime |
| 06:26.21 | Kirkburn|afk | The fact I'm afk means I'm sitting on my bed looking around for any signs of spiders, not that I'm asleep :P |
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| 06:26.34 | Tem | I never understood people that keep porn |
| 06:26.48 | Thrae | Yeah I have about 200 DVDs already burned...I need to go through my CD collection sometime |
| 06:26.50 | Corrodias | i have sort of been scared away from anime by watching two series back to back which illustrated just what's wrong with most anime, how poorly it's written |
| 06:27.04 | Thrae | Corrodias: IE, you watched dubbed DBZ? |
| 06:27.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Tem? |
| 06:27.22 | Tem | Kirkburn|afk, Corrodias was just talking about how he has gigs and gigs of porn |
| 06:27.36 | Corrodias | the first was pretty good, Gungrave. were it a little better, it could have actually been good for any kind of show. i realized that it was just really good for anime, and "decent" overall |
| 06:27.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Comparing sizes, no doubt |
| 06:27.42 | Corrodias | then full metal panic. omg, what trash. |
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| 06:28.10 | Corrodias | that drove home just how bad even generally well-reviewed anime can be |
| 06:28.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | gungrave was such a good concept |
| 06:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but then it was like MAFIA ZOMBIE DUDES |
| 06:28.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Anime is crap. There, I said it. |
| 06:28.28 | Thrae | Corrodias: Comparing the entirity of Anime to one genre is silly |
| 06:28.43 | Thrae | Corrodias: There are a bazillion Mecha animes out there, and I hate most of them myself |
| 06:28.47 | Corrodias | yeah, the first part of the series was very close to being "magnificent" |
| 06:29.05 | Tem | Thrae, I felt the same until last weekend |
| 06:29.10 | Thrae | Corrodias: Try something different, like One Piece |
| 06:29.15 | Corrodias | i've seen a lot of anime, Thrae, and a lot of it is pretty crappy. but yes, there are some entertaining ones... |
| 06:29.22 | Corrodias | and when i say "a lot" i mean "a little" |
| 06:29.27 | Tem | Thrae, a friend of mine convinced me to watch eureka seven, and I /really/ enjoyed it |
| 06:29.27 | Thrae | But don't watched One Piece dubbed |
| 06:29.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | Kirk: there's your childlike scrawls: http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1ky6.jpg |
| 06:29.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what it looked like before i rendered it in recolored :p |
| 06:29.53 | Tem | I've seen a few eps of OP dubbed and I doubt I'll ever watch it subbed because the dub was so horrible |
| 06:29.57 | Thrae | Tem: I got bored half-way through Eureka Seven myself...haven't finished it yet |
| 06:29.59 | Kirkburn|afk | hahaha |
| 06:30.10 | Corrodias | another thing is that watching shows takes time, time away from WoW in some cases... which may not be so bad once i run out of things to do other than raids |
| 06:30.18 | Tem | Thrae, how far is "half way?" |
| 06:30.32 | Kirkburn|afk | I love that you just spent the last 10 minutes doing that :D |
| 06:30.35 | Thrae | Wait, is Eureka Seven the "Mechas on Airboards" or "Mecha Matrix-rip-off" one? |
| 06:30.37 | Tem | because you don't really know what's going on until ep 30ish |
| 06:30.46 | Tem | Mechas on airboards |
| 06:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl, i couldn't figure out how to save the actual DRAWING |
| 06:31.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | only renders |
| 06:31.04 | Thrae | I think I watched like 10 episodes and got bored from all the angst |
| 06:31.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Anime is sooo grounded in reality, isn't it |
| 06:31.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | I watch anime purely for 2 things: badassness, and comedy |
| 06:31.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | pretty much the same reason i watch movies |
| 06:31.37 | Tem | comedy? |
| 06:31.41 | Thrae | Maybe I'll get back into it, in particular I'm biased against airboarding/snowboarding/skateboarding/*boarding -- not a big fan of the sport |
| 06:31.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Gief me Fawlty Towers any day |
| 06:31.52 | Tem | Thrae, it's based on surfing |
| 06:31.58 | Corrodias | airboarding mecha... what |
| 06:32.05 | Thrae | Tem: surfboarding too ;) |
| 06:32.05 | Corrodias | fawlty towers! :D |
| 06:32.09 | Tem | really, the thing that got me was the constant music references |
| 06:32.16 | Thrae | Surfboarding == angst++! |
| 06:32.21 | Tem | half the characters are named for music |
| 06:32.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a big fan of elfen lied |
| 06:32.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but |
| 06:32.33 | Thrae | Ah, that wouldn't effect me, since I don |
| 06:32.36 | Tem | and every episode is the named by a song |
| 06:32.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's definitely only for those of us with strong stomachs |
| 06:32.43 | Thrae | I don't listen to popular music |
| 06:32.45 | Tem | and the references all fit |
| 06:32.53 | Tem | Thrae, it's not so much popular music |
| 06:33.00 | Tem | but I did get most of the references |
| 06:33.12 | Thrae | Well, popular, classic, etc. |
| 06:33.12 | Corrodias | i'm a total music noob. i wouldn't get most of them, i'm sure. |
| 06:33.20 | Thrae | I can't name one Beatles song |
| 06:33.27 | Thrae | Wait..."Yesterday"? |
| 06:33.30 | Corrodias | i despise the beatles, and also don't know their songs. |
| 06:33.33 | Tem | Also, I'm real good at suspending my disbelief |
| 06:33.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Woah |
| 06:33.52 | Kirkburn|afk | PHILISTINES! |
| 06:34.08 | Tem | "Open up your mind. Let your fantasies unwind." :) |
| 06:34.29 | Corrodias | in any case, anime plot generally disappoints me |
| 06:34.41 | Shirik | Um |
| 06:34.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't care about plot :p |
| 06:34.43 | Tem | Don't forget the plot holes! |
| 06:34.47 | Shirik | not going to try to figure out what you guys are talking about |
| 06:34.49 | Shirik | but good night >< |
| 06:34.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | entertainment is pretty much all i care about |
| 06:35.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | in movies too |
| 06:35.05 | Tem | Plot holes are awesome |
| 06:35.07 | Thrae | I'm more interested in Anime like One Piece, Sumomomo Momomo, Inukami, Busou Renkin, etc. |
| 06:35.07 | Cairenn | night Shirik, Iriel|Away |
| 06:35.08 | Corrodias | if it isn't comedy, it gets preachy or rushed, classic japanese characteristics. if it is comedy, it tends to get shallow and repetetive. |
| 06:35.21 | Tem | oh, for comedy, you need to watch Yu-Gi-Oh abridged |
| 06:35.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | yesss |
| 06:35.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love it |
| 06:35.36 | Tem | I haven't laughed that hard in _ages_ |
| 06:35.41 | Corrodias | link me |
| 06:35.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like tim and eric's awesome show too |
| 06:35.54 | Corrodias | would it matter that i've never seen the show itself? |
| 06:35.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
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| 06:36.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it helps, but really, no |
| 06:36.19 | Tem | Corrodias, http://www.miketyndall.com/littlekuriboh/ |
| 06:36.34 | Thrae | http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3574 <-- one of my favs of all time for plot and depth |
| 06:36.51 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, I will kick your ass because I'm an AMERICAN |
| 06:36.53 | Thrae | Note: Gore, Horror, Lolis killing Lolis |
| 06:36.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=LittleKuriboh |
| 06:36.56 | Tem | ... In America! |
| 06:37.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | loli on loli crime is such a waste |
| 06:37.14 | Industrial | morrnnnn' |
| 06:37.16 | Corrodias | mmm :d |
| 06:37.27 | Thrae | Actually, they mainly kill adults ;) |
| 06:37.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | watch the perfect blue trailer on there |
| 06:37.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you've seen perfect blue |
| 06:37.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's AWESOME |
| 06:37.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Teh Xbox 360 Elite - http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/28/the-xbox-360-elite-is-official-hdmi-and-120gb-for-479/ |
| 06:38.14 | Corrodias | perhaps you guys can recommend to me some decently written anime. i will put it on a list and perhaps get to it someday. |
| 06:38.17 | Thrae | Higurashi no Naku Koro ni is about how good people can go so horribly insane |
| 06:39.02 | Thrae | Corrodias: Also see -- http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3408 (Shakugan no Shana), which is based on a novel |
| 06:39.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't really recommend decently written stuff because that's not what i look for |
| 06:39.21 | Shirik|zZz | the entire console - $179? |
| 06:39.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the decently written stuff is drama |
| 06:39.30 | Shirik|zZz | All components? |
| 06:39.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is boring as hell |
| 06:39.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 06:39.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the HDD |
| 06:39.40 | Shirik|zZz | ah ok |
| 06:39.42 | Shirik|zZz | I was like.... dude |
| 06:39.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | 479 for it |
| 06:39.50 | Industrial | http://koen.it/~tom/anime |
| 06:39.52 | Shirik|zZz | the HDMI cable is valued at half that in some retail stores |
| 06:40.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got a DVI->HDMI cable for uh |
| 06:40.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6 bucks |
| 06:40.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10 foot cable |
| 06:40.15 | Shirik|zZz | you got a correctly priced one :P |
| 06:40.20 | Industrial | (theres some decent amount of mecha in there so if you dont like that) |
| 06:40.23 | Shirik|zZz | Retail stores mark up prices so much |
| 06:40.24 | Thrae | Corrodias: Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece all have interesting stories, but they all also have like 120+ episodes (300+ for the latter two) |
| 06:40.29 | Industrial | Corrodias |
| 06:40.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i saw the same cable in EB for 80 BUCKS |
| 06:40.39 | Corrodias | hrm |
| 06:40.45 | Thrae | Corrodias: And you must watch them subbed or most likely they won't make as much sense |
| 06:40.55 | Corrodias | of course. |
| 06:40.56 | Tem | "Through the power of 4kids and sexism, I can win this duel!" |
| 06:40.56 | Shirik|zZz | Working at Best Buy you get bottom-line price as employee discount |
| 06:41.07 | Shirik|zZz | You know how much I saved in the 2 years I worked there? (I think it was 2 years) |
| 06:41.09 | Shirik|zZz | $15k |
| 06:41.21 | Corrodias | the description of Shakugan no Shana does not make it sound particularly compelling or original. perhaps it could use a new description :/ |
| 06:41.22 | Shirik|zZz | that's how much they bring up prices |
| 06:41.34 | Shirik|zZz | granted that was a lot of things like 200' network cable for $2 instead of $100 |
| 06:41.35 | Shirik|zZz | etc |
| 06:41.54 | Shirik|zZz | but that's the point - yeah I'd expect to see that cable in EB for about $89 |
| 06:41.59 | Thrae | Where was that "Yugioh abridged"? |
| 06:42.08 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, seriously going to sleep now night :p |
| 06:42.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=LittleKuriboh |
| 06:42.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | Thrae, that's it |
| 06:42.20 | Thrae | Ah youtube |
| 06:42.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you've seen perfect blue |
| 06:42.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | watch the trailer for that too |
| 06:42.37 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, http://www.miketyndall.com/littlekuriboh/ |
| 06:42.42 | Corrodias | what if i haven't seen perfect blue? |
| 06:42.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can watch it but it's not as funny |
| 06:42.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | because perfect blue is all kinds of weird |
| 06:43.01 | Tem | youtube is missing some of them because of copyright crap |
| 06:43.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like almost david lynch level strange |
| 06:43.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh, really? |
| 06:43.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i watched them as they came out |
| 06:44.56 | Corrodias | okay, i'll keep this stuff in mind |
| 06:45.20 | Corrodias | i'd like to experience a bunch of books, games, and videos, but there's a limited amount of time in my day :( |
| 06:46.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i find it hard to read a book these days |
| 06:46.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have the attention span |
| 06:46.42 | Corrodias | i might... i just don't make the time. WoW sucks up too much of my life. maybe i have a problem. |
| 06:47.04 | Corrodias | perhaps i need to back off of WoW a little |
| 06:47.06 | Industrial | Corrodias: did you get my link? :) |
| 06:47.12 | Corrodias | not that i'm aware |
| 06:47.18 | Industrial | < Industrial> http://koen.it/~tom/anime |
| 06:47.27 | Corrodias | ah, thanks |
| 06:47.35 | Industrial | np |
| 06:47.57 | Corrodias | whoever that is, FMP is going to be a disappointment |
| 06:48.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | cowboy bebop is pretty awesome |
| 06:48.17 | Industrial | thats me |
| 06:48.25 | Industrial | watched it to 07 and liking it :X |
| 06:48.30 | Corrodias | cowboy bebop suffered from the "mysterious syndrome" as i'd call it, otherwise it was great |
| 06:48.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like it dubbed, then again i don't mind dubs most of the time |
| 06:48.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | exceptions are made though |
| 06:48.50 | Industrial | but im a mecha fanboi. my fav series is Gundam Wing. |
| 06:48.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, elfen lied |
| 06:49.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | do not watch that dubbed |
| 06:49.13 | Corrodias | they tried to make it look like there was a lot of history, a lot of backstory, but never got much beyong hinting at it. some people apparently enjoy that, but it more irritates me. |
| 06:49.30 | Industrial | lol, elfen lied was... the first ep was cool the rest was "omg i touched your boob" humour ;\ |
| 06:49.34 | Corrodias | trigun had an even bigger dose of that problem |
| 06:49.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | problem with a lot of anime is |
| 06:50.02 | Corrodias | it sucks |
| 06:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's either designed to be an acessory to the manga, or is being written at the same time |
| 06:50.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | like hellsing |
| 06:50.11 | Corrodias | ah. yes. |
| 06:50.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | they barely even mention the nazis |
| 06:50.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they're all over the manga |
| 06:50.19 | Corrodias | don't even *eyeroll* |
| 06:51.38 | Industrial | btw hy will FMP be a dissapointment? |
| 06:52.25 | Corrodias | classic issue: at least the middle 1/3 of the series is pure filler |
| 06:52.46 | Industrial | hm |
| 06:52.47 | Industrial | ok |
| 06:53.10 | Corrodias | ep 14 or 16 (i forget which -- it's about a sports game played with the machines) contributes absolutely nothing, in fact. it actually reduces the amount of sense the series makes. |
| 06:53.17 | Kirkburn|afk | God, you're not still talking anime are you |
| 06:53.22 | Corrodias | you could skip it and the series would be better off for it :P |
| 06:53.25 | Industrial | name makes me think of full metal alchemist; wich is REALLY GOOD in its story and doesnt have any fillers (iirc) |
| 06:54.04 | Corrodias | hm, maybe i should get that. |
| 06:54.14 | Corrodias | hell, i might even have it. who knows what i've stored away on these drives and forgotten about? |
| 06:54.16 | Industrial | you havent seen it :O!? |
| 06:54.34 | Corrodias | nope. i put aside very little time for watching videos. |
| 06:54.36 | Industrial | its one of the best ive seen so far imho |
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| 06:56.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i watch videos while i'm playing wow |
| 06:56.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 06:56.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | having a laptop for firefox and irc is awesome |
| 07:00.11 | Kirkburn|afk | That sounds familiar |
| 07:00.54 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm watching House on my desktop whilst being random on here. Much fun :) |
| 07:01.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm bad at watching tv |
| 07:01.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have mine on most of the time but its always just background |
| 07:01.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Anime is somehow different from TV? |
| 07:01.59 | Thrae | I use a USB Hub Share Switch to switch between my Windows and Linux desktops |
| 07:02.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Actually, wait, at least TV makes sense some of the time :P |
| 07:02.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha |
| 07:02.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i watch anime to pretty much the same standards as tv and movies |
| 07:03.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Unfortunate then that anime isn't at the same standard as tv and movies (oooh, burn!) |
| 07:03.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i had fun watching it it's worth the time i spent |
| 07:03.40 | Tem | Industrial, you though season 2 of ghost in the shell was too complicated? |
| 07:03.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | why don't you like anime, kirk :[ |
| 07:03.49 | Tem | I thought it was less complicated than season 1 |
| 07:03.51 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 07:03.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | show me on the doll where the mech touched you |
| 07:04.33 | Kirkburn|afk | rofl |
| 07:05.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, here and there and all around. |
| 07:09.19 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: LOLLL |
| 07:10.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, i love metal gear solid 2 and the story for that hurts my brain |
| 07:10.01 | Industrial | Tem: yeah :( I had to start watching things twice to get it |
| 07:10.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't even think kojima understood wtf was going on there |
| 07:10.28 | Tem | Industrial, isn't season two with the refugees and stuff? |
| 07:10.28 | Industrial | also, I'd always like new titles to add to that list! |
| 07:10.29 | Industrial | yes |
| 07:10.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been playing the GiTS game for ps1, it's pretty fun |
| 07:11.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a first/third person shooter from the POV of a fuchikoma |
| 07:11.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | with some cutscenes in a weird art style |
| 07:11.24 | Tem | and you found that more confusing than the convoluted cyber hacker that goes from being 1 person, to a bunch of copy cats to no original, and back again and then finally to some point where you have no idea what they're talking about at all? |
| 07:11.56 | Industrial | yah :3 |
| 07:12.01 | Thrae | Ghost in the Shell is one of those rare animes where the dub isn't too bad because of allllllll the talking |
| 07:12.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | excel saga's better dubbed |
| 07:12.15 | Tem | Thrae, I don't follow |
| 07:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no way any human could read the subtitles to excel saga fast enough to understand it |
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| 07:12.37 | Thrae | Having 3 paragraphs of subtitles every few seconds can be rough to interpret ;) |
| 07:12.51 | Tem | Thrae, I think the dub is pretty good purely because I don't hear the same voices as every other dubbed anime |
| 07:12.55 | Nom- | I can't understand the pull of Anime, seriously |
| 07:12.59 | SunTiger | dub of what ? |
| 07:13.01 | Thrae | Tem: That too |
| 07:13.08 | Tem | and they actually fit the characters which is another anomoly |
| 07:13.12 | Tem | anomaly* |
| 07:13.19 | Nom- | I mean, I've seen guys who can't speak or understand Japanese watching Anime in Japanese with no subtitles |
| 07:13.27 | Nom- | And I just can't understand what the point or interest is |
| 07:13.27 | Tem | SunTiger, Ghost in the Shell |
| 07:13.36 | Tem | Nom-, I've done that before |
| 07:13.47 | Thrae | Nom-: I don't see the point in 99% of what's on TV |
| 07:13.48 | Tem | but only because I had read the manga and knew what was being said |
| 07:13.48 | SunTiger | hmm, never actually seen ghost in the shell dubbed. |
| 07:13.50 | Nom- | What is the allure? |
| 07:13.58 | Nom- | I mean, you can't understand the storyline |
| 07:14.01 | SunTiger | 99% of what is on tv is crap. |
| 07:14.01 | Tem | the sub wasn't out yet |
| 07:14.13 | Nom- | (Unless it's so stupidly simple that they may as well not even speak) |
| 07:14.14 | Tem | Nom-, I had read the manga and wanted to see the action live |
| 07:14.14 | SunTiger | thats why there is no allure |
| 07:14.34 | Nom- | Yeah, well I don't watch TV |
| 07:14.39 | SunTiger | and anime are like cartoons... but with topics i like. |
| 07:14.43 | Tem | Nom-, I knew the gist of the dialog from the manga, but it was really irellevant in that episode anyway |
| 07:14.43 | Nom- | I watch TV Episodes |
| 07:14.44 | SunTiger | so i watch some of them. |
| 07:14.46 | Nom- | But I don't watch TV :P |
| 07:14.48 | Tem | I was watching it for the action |
| 07:14.51 | Tem | and the sub wasn't out yet |
| 07:15.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just consider anime pretty much just like anything else, only difference is instead of actors, there's voice actors and drawn characters |
| 07:15.02 | Tem | it's called being impatient |
| 07:15.06 | Tem | ~laziness |
| 07:15.22 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 07:15.22 | Tem | ~impatience |
| 07:15.24 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 07:15.24 | SunTiger | and i only care for 2 things on tv |
| 07:15.24 | Tem | ~hubris |
| 07:15.25 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. <Hubris> - Eating their cake, too. |
| 07:15.25 | Thrae | Nom-: Some people read the manga, some people were far enough in they don't really need subtitles to understand ALL of what they are saying (after watching anime for a while, you subconsciously pickup on common Japanese words and phrases) |
| 07:15.25 | SunTiger | Heroes and battlestar galactica |
| 07:15.50 | Tem | there's one more, but I can never remember it |
| 07:15.59 | Thrae | After a solid week of watching Anime, I start slipping into Japanese IRL :D |
| 07:16.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how it's any different than any other format, honestly |
| 07:16.29 | Tem | I don't speak japanese, but just watching it, I've picked up enough to string together a few sentences |
| 07:16.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | just some people can't fathom adults watching animation for some reason |
| 07:16.38 | Tem | kergoth, help me out. What's the fourth virtue? |
| 07:17.01 | Nom- | I'll learn one day when I get bored |
| 07:17.05 | Nom- | </aside> |
| 07:17.06 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, that's because in the US it's only targetted at children |
| 07:17.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, cartoons are |
| 07:17.23 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:17.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but anime is far from targetted purely at children :x |
| 07:17.31 | Nom- | What's a better use of time than learning a second language ? |
| 07:17.39 | Bleeter | fourth platonic virtue? justice/evenness etc. |
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| 07:17.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | punching out grizzly bears |
| 07:17.47 | SunTiger | what , you don't already KNOW a third ? |
| 07:17.59 | Nom- | And if there are no Grizzly bears ? |
| 07:18.10 | Corrodias | entertaining yourself |
| 07:18.15 | Corrodias | reading books, watching videos, playing games |
| 07:18.17 | SunTiger | s/third/second/ |
| 07:18.33 | Nom- | bah |
| 07:18.35 | Corrodias | at least this is how i spend my time |
| 07:18.46 | Corrodias | although lately it's been way too much WoW and not enough of anything else. i need to change my life a little. |
| 07:18.47 | Nom- | As far as i'm concerned, learning a second spoken language is a great skill |
| 07:18.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i spend most of my time eating live puppies to gain their essence these days |
| 07:19.23 | Industrial | lol |
| 07:19.25 | Tem | I prefer killing people to steal their powers |
| 07:19.26 | SunTiger | as far as i am concerned everyone should be able to speak at least two languages without problems the moment they get out of highschool. |
| 07:19.47 | Industrial | im with SunTiger |
| 07:19.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i started learning spanish |
| 07:19.51 | Nom- | Yeah, I had the opportunity to learn Japanese |
| 07:19.54 | kergoth | ~fear of complexity |
| 07:19.55 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 07:19.57 | Nom- | But I squandered it because I didn't know any better |
| 07:19.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | and then i decided to screw that |
| 07:19.59 | Tem | yes |
| 07:20.01 | Tem | thanks, kergoth |
| 07:20.03 | kergoth | np |
| 07:20.06 | Industrial | Nom-: :O! |
| 07:20.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm far too lazy to learn another language |
| 07:20.30 | Nom- | If I could go back to high school now, i'd throw myself into that Japanese class and actually learn more than how to count from 1 to 10 |
| 07:20.48 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.50 | Industrial | ack |
| 07:20.57 | SunTiger | fail |
| 07:21.10 | Nom- | I could speak some very basic phases |
| 07:21.26 | Nom- | But I never picked up enough to really be useful |
| 07:21.50 | Industrial | i know some words (well spoken cause i never see them written) by watching anime |
| 07:22.17 | Industrial | anyway Nom-, animes arent all forchildren. I dont like those series. |
| 07:22.33 | Nom- | Industrial: I never said they were |
| 07:22.39 | Industrial | like.. HUNTER X HUNTER and shit, ugh :P |
| 07:22.42 | Nom- | Industrial: I just said I don't understand what's so interesting about them |
| 07:22.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm kinda the middle of the road |
| 07:23.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see them as more or less special than anything else on tv |
| 07:23.06 | Nom- | I mean, Ghost in the Shell wasn't bad, I watched that |
| 07:23.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | only difference is instead of actors it's drawn and voice acted |
| 07:23.15 | SunTiger | its not interesting because its anime, its interesting because of whatever storie is being told. |
| 07:23.37 | Nom- | But the short 10-15 minute clips I see floating around, they might as well be a poorly animated version of Power Rangers |
| 07:23.52 | Corrodias | that's probably why they're short clips floating around |
| 07:23.56 | Industrial | what clips :P |
| 07:24.13 | Nom- | Virtually every single anime i've seen :) |
| 07:24.18 | Industrial | lol |
| 07:24.33 | Nom- | I just feel they overdo it too much |
| 07:24.50 | Nom- | It looks like they're attempting to induce siezures in epileptic viewers |
| 07:24.56 | Industrial | thats part of the genre I guess. You have to feel the humour imo |
| 07:24.57 | SunTiger | what, you don't like people powering up and then using eye lazerz ? |
| 07:25.50 | Thrae | Hunter x Hunter was awesome until Greed Island, then it became some weird-ass card game |
| 07:26.29 | Thrae | It used to be a Dragonball-style anime (note: Dragonball and Dragonball Z are VERY different style animes) |
| 07:27.37 | Nom- | I saw 1 or 2 eps of DBZ |
| 07:27.44 | Nom- | Didn't interest me one bit |
| 07:28.02 | Thrae | Yeah, DBZ is far from my favorite as well |
| 07:28.19 | Thrae | Original Dragonball is kinda cool though |
| 07:28.37 | Thrae | No "Power Levels" in the original, it's more of a martial-arts anime |
| 07:28.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
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| 07:29.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus it wasn't 9 episodes of guys floating in the air grunting at a time |
| 07:29.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | then 10 minutes of fighting and then more grunting |
| 07:29.27 | Nom- | I'll stick with my Family Guy, thanks :) |
| 07:30.11 | Thrae | "Previously on Dragonball Z (the last 5 episodes), Goku was powering up his Spirit Bomb attack..." <-- sadly true |
| 07:31.01 | Thrae | Nom-: Comparing DBZ to Family Guy is like comparing Seinfield to Law & Order...DBZ isn't really a comedy |
| 07:31.02 | Elkano | Genkidama? |
| 07:31.54 | Nom- | Yeah, well I guess I just prefer poorly animated shows to be comedies |
| 07:32.03 | Nom- | Save the good inimation for the good movies |
| 07:32.05 | Thrae | Most anime isn't suppose to be funny |
| 07:32.19 | Thrae | Most anime isn't poorly animated, Dragonball Z is just old |
| 07:32.21 | Nom- | Final Fantasy (Movie) is still one of my favourite movies of all time |
| 07:32.30 | Elkano | PuniPuniPoemi? |
| 07:32.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | welcome to the nhk is both hilarious and depressing at the same time |
| 07:32.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | puni puni poemi is hilarious, as is excel saga |
| 07:32.56 | Thrae | Welcome to the NHK has too many simularities to my life =/ |
| 07:33.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | ssame |
| 07:33.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | only my furniture doesn't talk to me |
| 07:33.24 | Thrae | Final Fantasy: Spirits Within isn't really Anime, it's Japanese CGI |
| 07:33.50 | SunTiger | aye |
| 07:34.04 | Nom- | Yeah, but i was refering to animation in general :) |
| 07:34.08 | SunTiger | same goes for FFVII |
| 07:34.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | spirits within may as well been live action |
| 07:34.22 | SunTiger | best cgi movies out ther |
| 07:34.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | would have saved a lot of money |
| 07:34.36 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:34.57 | Bleeter | if it's the Sony film I'm thinking of |
| 07:35.01 | Nom- | Speaking of movies...who else is looking forward to Transformers ? |
| 07:35.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | me |
| 07:35.07 | Thrae | Nom-: So you'd pack in American Cartoons with American CGI movies (IE, Pixar, Dreamworks, etc.) |
| 07:35.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i watched the 1986 movie again the other day |
| 07:35.25 | Bleeter | tron ftw! |
| 07:35.43 | Nom- | Thrae: No, you just didn't keep up...I changed from Anime to animation in general |
| 07:35.57 | Nom- | It's the internet. |
| 07:36.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still almost teared up when optimus prime died :[ |
| 07:36.04 | Nom- | Conversations are a very fluid and dynamic thing |
| 07:36.07 | Thrae | I had a 3D VHS Transformers movie |
| 07:36.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom's fluid and dynamic |
| 07:36.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought ninja turtles was good |
| 07:36.46 | Bleeter | pity it *so* doesn't work out of the cinema |
| 07:36.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was amazingly detailed for cg |
| 07:36.54 | Corrodias | OH BURN |
| 07:36.59 | Corrodias | Mr_Rabies2++ |
| 07:37.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, everything had 'texture' |
| 07:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | to it |
| 07:37.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | like bump/normal mapping only they didn't look like ass |
| 07:37.26 | Thrae | Nom-: Ah, you see, I must have given you the benefit of the doubt, since lumping together "Anime" with all of the World's Animation production doesn't really fit |
| 07:38.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a fight in the rain in the TMNT movie |
| 07:38.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was just amazing looking |
| 07:39.09 | Thrae | Nom-: It's like lumping together all religions (organized or not) and lumping them together |
| 07:39.22 | Corrodias | and labelling them |
| 07:39.24 | Nom- | Oh, you can't do that... |
| 07:39.26 | Corrodias | something silly like "religion" |
| 07:39.43 | Nom- | You can lump all the versions of Christianity and Buddhism into groups |
| 07:39.44 | Corrodias | you can't just take all the world's religions and start calling them "religions"! |
| 07:39.53 | Nom- | But Scientology has it's own category |
| 07:40.03 | Corrodias | i don't know where i'm going with this |
| 07:40.11 | Corrodias | i just like to cause just a little trouble |
| 07:40.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | raphael is pretty badass at the beginning of TMNT |
| 07:40.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and leo is a bit emo, then they switch it up back to their classical roles |
| 07:40.33 | Thrae | Does the TMNT movie have robot ninjas and aliens? |
| 07:40.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe |
| 07:40.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's ninjas |
| 07:40.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | of the foot clan |
| 07:40.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | they may be robots i dunno |
| 07:40.58 | Corrodias | of course there are ninjas |
| 07:40.59 | Nom- | The voice actors for the new TMNT have ruined all hope I had that it might be worth watching |
| 07:41.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | why's that? |
| 07:41.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're pretty much what i expect out of ninja turtles |
| 07:41.35 | Nom- | If you watched the old movies, then you wouldn't |
| 07:41.43 | Nom- | The first 1-2 movies were quite serious |
| 07:41.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 07:41.55 | Nom- | The new one is a joke |
| 07:41.56 | Corrodias | man, those movies were SO long ago, i don't remember a thing |
| 07:42.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure they're different |
| 07:42.05 | Thrae | There are different storylines for TMNT, the cartoon started deveating, probably to make it less "violent", and made the ninjas robots so they could be "killed" without really "dying" |
| 07:42.22 | Nom- | I mean, sure...there was a bit of fun in the first movie |
| 07:42.37 | Nom- | But the voice actors saved it...they were good |
| 07:42.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's some comedy in the new one, but it's not really all that overbearing |
| 07:42.46 | Thrae | And to explain how Shredder learned to create robot ninjas for the Foot Clan, enter the Brain-Tentacled alien "Krang" |
| 07:42.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly michaelangelo related comedy |
| 07:43.15 | Nom- | I'm just so glad that they did really well with Transformers |
| 07:43.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | raphael is really badass in the intro, i was expecting it to be like that, thrae |
| 07:43.31 | Nom- | If you've seen the shorts so far, it's a full-on don't take your kids to the cinema movie |
| 07:43.46 | Nom- | Like the X-Men movie |
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| 07:43.56 | Corrodias | i ... really didn't read comics, ever |
| 07:43.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | all dumbed down and kiddy, when i got out i was like "wow, that was actually good" |
| 07:44.05 | Nom- | You wouldn't take your sub-10 year olds to watch that, but you would let them watch the cartoon |
| 07:44.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=SXrRIT47Gso |
| 07:44.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | here's raphael being badass |
| 07:45.26 | Nom- | See one of the things that ruin(ed) the new Spiderman movies for me is how they've made it too cartoony |
| 07:45.57 | Nom- | I could stand the poor choice of actor |
| 07:45.57 | Nom- | I could stand the rest of the crap |
| 07:45.58 | Nom- | But the flying through the city was the ruin point for me |
| 07:46.16 | Nom- | Just too cartoony...too much ragdolling...more than should have been in there |
| 07:46.38 | Nom- | I dunno, maybe i'm just too picky |
| 07:47.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm looking forward to the new spiderman movie, but they need to beef venom up |
| 07:47.53 | Corrodias | i'm... not much for movies. that reminds me, i was going to watch Grease... |
| 07:48.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | first thing they need to do is fire Topher Grace |
| 07:48.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | and get Mickey Rourke for Eddie Brock |
| 07:49.21 | Nom- | Ah well |
| 07:49.25 | Nom- | 300 = Best movie ever :P |
| 07:49.34 | Thrae | Next X-Men movie I want Apocalypse dammit, they're already doing another one of Marvel's "true supervillians" in the next Fantastic Four |
| 07:49.55 | Nom- | mmmmmmmmmm Jessica Alba |
| 07:49.57 | krka | oh... TMNT is fully animated? didn't know that |
| 07:50.12 | krka | the youtube link looks crappy :/ |
| 07:50.22 | Nom- | Yeah, and that clip just convinced me of what i already knew |
| 07:50.29 | krka | the trailer looked much better |
| 07:50.40 | Nom- | I'm sorry, but if you jump a group of gansters like that, they're going to open fire back at you immediately |
| 07:50.44 | krka | cartoony people makes it look like a kid movie :( |
| 07:50.47 | Nom- | They made it too child oriented |
| 07:51.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought the opposite |
| 07:51.40 | krka | spiderman will be cool |
| 07:51.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was expecting it to be much much more child oriented |
| 07:51.51 | krka | i think topher grace might pull it off |
| 07:52.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Nom-> I'm sorry, but if you jump a group of gansters like that, they're going to open fire back at you immediately |
| 07:52.07 | krka | even though venom is supposed to be much bulkier |
| 07:52.19 | Corrodias | oh my god |
| 07:52.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay taking realism into a movie about a bunch of anthromorphic ninja turtles |
| 07:52.28 | Corrodias | this abridged yu-hi-oh is perhaps the funniest thing i have ever seen |
| 07:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not gonna try to argue with that anymore :x |
| 07:52.38 | Thrae | Not to mention that they are NINJAS |
| 07:52.46 | Corrodias | not to mention that they are TURTLES |
| 07:52.48 | Thrae | Ninjas >>>>>> Gangsters |
| 07:52.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | NOT TO MENTION THAT THEY ARE TEENAGE |
| 07:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 07:53.01 | Thrae | Turtles are not immune to bullets :D |
| 07:53.06 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: lol...that's not the point... |
| 07:53.10 | Corrodias | they have bulletproof shells |
| 07:53.10 | Thrae | Teenagers, however, are |
| 07:53.13 | krka | teenage mutant pirate turtles would pwn |
| 07:53.13 | Corrodias | and eye lazers. |
| 07:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's the point, nom? |
| 07:53.38 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Every serious movie has the right to take a few things that are out there |
| 07:53.56 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: Like James Bond has his funky gadgets etc etc |
| 07:54.10 | krka | and matrix has keanu reeves |
| 07:54.44 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: But there's only so far you can go before it just becomes an absurdity and therefore oriented closer to fantasy (which gives me an inclination to dislike it) |
| 07:54.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohhhhhh |
| 07:54.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | so that's how it is |
| 07:55.00 | Nom- | When you think about it, all the good "action" movies will have something that's a big absurd |
| 07:55.07 | Nom- | *bit |
| 07:55.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a fan of fantasy, i'm good at suspending disbelief |
| 07:55.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i don't get immersed in movies anyway |
| 07:55.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | no matter how good it is |
| 07:55.46 | Nom- | Well, Matrix for instance...their absurdity was that the world is a computer program |
| 07:56.19 | Nom- | Their success came in the fact they sold that so well |
| 07:56.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how some small time gangsters hesitating at shooting people is implausible |
| 07:56.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 07:56.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | not 'people' |
| 07:56.48 | Nom- | It's more about how the action movie audience has been conditioned |
| 07:56.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | but this weird vaguely turtleman shaped guy in a suit and helmet |
| 07:57.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't care about realism in movies, because realism is boring |
| 07:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | some movies can pull it off well, but not many |
| 07:57.51 | Nom- | In a typic action movie, if you saw the hero NON-silently take someone out at the back of the group of armed men |
| 07:57.57 | Nom- | You'd EXPECT them to start shooting back |
| 07:58.16 | Nom- | When they don't it doesn't feel right |
| 07:58.29 | Nom- | That's just the way the audience has been conditioned, and what I personally come to expect in an action movie |
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| 07:59.13 | Nom- | And, honestly, if TMNT doesn't class itself as an action movie, then it falls into animated fantasy...which is a much harder movie to sell |
| 07:59.17 | Nom- | That's just how I feel anyway :) |
| 07:59.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that happens earlier in the movie, leo gets shot at by a guy with an ak that misses terribly |
| 07:59.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 07:59.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see how something so minor can set you off |
| 08:00.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but people can -and will- complain about anything |
| 08:00.03 | Thrae | How many people have met a Midget? |
| 08:00.11 | Thrae | I have. He was cool. |
| 08:00.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i did |
| 08:00.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want a pet midget :[ |
| 08:00.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | we could do all kinds of awesome stuff together |
| 08:00.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it would be awesome |
| 08:01.28 | Nom- | Got Gnome (tm) |
| 08:01.44 | Nom- | Anyway, I'd rather go into a movie expecting a molehill and be dilvered a mountain than the other way around |
| 08:01.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's generally what i do |
| 08:01.58 | Nom- | s/dilv/deliv/ |
| 08:02.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it sounds like you're the other way around :O |
| 08:02.12 | Corrodias | this computer seems to have a problem with codecs |
| 08:02.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | you expect the best and are easily disappointed |
| 08:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | whereas i expect the worst and generally get pleasantly surprised |
| 08:02.40 | Nom- | Not really |
| 08:02.40 | Corrodias | ffdshow is somehow not actually being allowed to play xvid video files it seems |
| 08:02.43 | Thrae | I was expecting Saw to be just a gorefest, but it actually had a decent plot |
| 08:02.51 | Nom- | By critisizing something I haven't yet seen, i'm preparing myself for the worst :P |
| 08:02.52 | Thrae | Corrodias: Try K-Lite |
| 08:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | or vlc |
| 08:03.03 | Thrae | Ended up seeing all three Saw's |
| 08:03.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | see saw |
| 08:03.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 08:03.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3 just didn't have the quirk that 2 had |
| 08:03.33 | Corrodias | vlc is a video player, is it not? |
| 08:03.39 | Corrodias | i want to use media player classic |
| 08:04.01 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: I certainly wasn't expecting the ending...kinda kills the chance for Saw 4 ;) |
| 08:04.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it wasn't about people overcoming a bunch of stuff to appreciate survival |
| 08:04.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was just a gorefest :/ |
| 08:04.52 | Thrae | Yeah, I think it was made as a conclusion to the Saw trilogy |
| 08:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember walking out of saw 2 being like |
| 08:05.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | "man, i hope they do a new one of these every year" |
| 08:05.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and at the end of saw 3 i was like "man, i hope they don't come out with another next halloween" |
| 08:06.17 | Thrae | They can't, unless they somehow ressurect Gordon |
| 08:07.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | prequels prequels prequels |
| 08:08.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | if there's money to be had in a once successful series, don't doubt the mpaa to do all they can to keep the series going until everyone hates it |
| 08:08.57 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Good idea, in 3 they hinted at tiny bit of Gordon's backstory |
| 08:09.22 | Thrae | I bet there is a prequel coming, since 1 didn't deal with the start of the "trials", just when Amber came in |
| 08:10.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and whatever happened to uh |
| 08:10.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | that guy's son, i forgot his name |
| 08:10.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | its been a while |
| 08:10.50 | Thrae | I was disappointed w/ 3 where they just killed off 2 principle characters in the first few minutes |
| 08:11.32 | Corrodias | well, it's time for me to sleep. 'ni |
| 08:11.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | see ya corr |
| 08:11.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i even enjoyed the hills have eyes 2 |
| 08:12.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not in the way it was intended i don't think :p |
| 08:12.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i laughed through most of the movie |
| 08:12.25 | Corrodias | i should uninstall ffdshow before i install any k-lite codec pack, shouldn't i? |
| 08:12.41 | Thrae | A good suspense movie was "The Others", but if you know anything about the ending before you see it, the whole movie is spoiled |
| 08:12.52 | Corrodias | i can't imagine it would go well to install it over the top |
| 08:13.04 | Thrae | Corrodias: Yes, uninstall ffdshow, xvid, divx, etc. |
| 08:13.21 | Thrae | Corrodias: K-Lite will also try to detect and uninstall these first too |
| 08:13.45 | Corrodias | 'k |
| 08:13.46 | Thrae | Anime called "Love Get Chu", hahaha |
| 08:13.50 | Nom- | Blah, if gore is what you want, go see 300 :P |
| 08:15.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never thought 300 was all that gory |
| 08:15.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i'm just desensitized so much |
| 08:15.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've seen things that have made grown men cry and barely even flinched :x |
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| 08:16.01 | Nom- | Oh, so limbs being severed int he middle of the frame and having blood spraying everywhere isn't gory? |
| 08:17.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess it is, but not really all that bad |
| 08:17.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | the hills have eyes 2 is pretty gory, but in a hilarious way |
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| 08:18.13 | Nom- | There's a sequel ? |
| 08:18.36 | Nom- | OMG |
| 08:18.38 | Nom- | I never heard about this |
| 08:18.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | though there were two scenes i winced, the giving birth and then crushing of the skull of the mother 5 minutes in and the violent rape scene later |
| 08:18.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, that was weird |
| 08:19.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't even notice regular gore much anymore, heh |
| 08:20.18 | Nom- | I liked 300 though, nevertheless |
| 08:20.23 | Nom- | It was really well put together |
| 08:20.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 08:20.49 | Nom- | I think there was just the right balance of story and fighting |
| 08:20.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i felt the wife subplot was unnecessary |
| 08:21.05 | Nom- | awww yes and no |
| 08:21.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | they could have done without adding that and i would have been fine |
| 08:21.18 | Nom- | they kind of used it to fill so you felt that time had passed in the battle |
| 08:22.01 | Nom- | Yeah, but without that, you wouldn't have known how they went from the battle of 300 to the end battle |
| 08:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i read the comic hours before seeing the movie, so the whole 'freedom isn't free' and the council and all the stuff back at sparta just seemed to stick out as unnecessary |
| 08:22.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | frank miller did a pretty damn good job without that stuff |
| 08:23.19 | Nom- | I didn't feel it was unnecessary at all |
| 08:23.33 | Nom- | I didn't read anything about the movie before watching it |
| 08:23.48 | Nom- | I didn't even know it existed until 5 hours before watching it |
| 08:23.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha |
| 08:24.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just thought it woulda done better without it |
| 08:24.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it seemed to be thrown in there for the 'hollywood breather' of sorts |
| 08:24.24 | Nom- | It's one of the few movies I've ever seen without hearing about it before hand |
| 08:25.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still think it's probably the best movie since sin city |
| 08:25.22 | Nom- | HAH |
| 08:25.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | woulda been a better movie had it been as accurate as sin city was |
| 08:25.33 | Nom- | You can get a Bluray rip of Casino Royale |
| 08:25.36 | Nom- | That didn't take long |
| 08:26.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll get a blu-ray drive when they're 100 bucks :p |
| 08:26.07 | Bleeter | bluray was 'cracked'.. Jan sometime, maybe Feb |
| 08:26.14 | Bleeter | same time as HDDVD more or less |
| 08:26.28 | Nom- | Yeah, I heard |
| 08:26.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, both use similar ciphers or whatever |
| 08:26.39 | Nom- | But it didn't take long to come out with ripped movies for it |
| 08:26.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | since they're pretty much the same format |
| 08:26.49 | Bleeter | I think HDDVD was first, the guy was begging for bluray users to try the same method.. took a few days hehe |
| 08:27.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | just bluray is all new technology |
| 08:27.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | whereas hddvd is based on current dvd tech so it's cheaper |
| 08:27.44 | Nom- | Still require new drives for both |
| 08:27.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 08:28.00 | Nom- | Neither is that new either...BLURAY has been around for years, they're only just commercializing it |
| 08:30.09 | Nom- | I always have concerns for a movie when of the 15 actors on the front page, only 3 of them have photos |
| 08:30.25 | Nom- | And the lead actor has only ever played supporting roles :P |
| 08:30.53 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:31.01 | SunTiger | Nom-, if people did not try stuff like that |
| 08:31.02 | Nom- | The lead actor is the only one listed against more than 2 movies |
| 08:31.07 | SunTiger | we would never find new lead actors. |
| 08:31.37 | Nom- | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0928372/ <-- that cast couldn't be any more unknown |
| 08:31.41 | Nom- | Even if they tried... |
| 08:32.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't believe they're making a hitman movie |
| 08:32.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and not using jason statham |
| 08:32.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean honestly |
| 08:32.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was born to play agent 47 |
| 08:32.23 | Nom- | they are |
| 08:32.24 | Nom- | ? |
| 08:32.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 08:33.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Olyphant |
| 08:33.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | is gonna be agent 47 |
| 08:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | statham or death |
| 08:33.33 | Bleeter | Nom-: that movie you linked... pretty obvious a Europe-in-US production. Happens more often than you think |
| 08:35.05 | Nom- | Yeah, but IMDB is a reasonable comprehensive database |
| 08:35.15 | Nom- | To have those actors not listed against virtually any other movie |
| 08:35.32 | Nom- | I would have to seriously consider spending any money to see that |
| 08:39.40 | Bleeter | IMDB's as 'comprehensive' as Wikipedia :P |
| 08:40.22 | Bleeter | by your theory, I doubt Mad Max would've have been released :P |
| 08:41.51 | Bleeter | or Star Wars... 'OK, it's got the daughter of Debbie Reynolds.. and some guy who had a bit part in Apocolypse now in it, directed by a guy who's only done a couple of other minor films' |
| 08:43.06 | Bleeter | no, didn't pick up the flaw? must be everyone's afk ;) |
| 08:44.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | star wars has never had big time actors, or good acting for that matter :/ |
| 08:44.22 | Nom- | And the original Star Wars was greeted with a great amount of skepticism |
| 08:44.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't get me wrong, i love star wars |
| 08:44.53 | Nom- | and then/now is a lot different :P |
| 08:45.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have....4 star wars brand personal chastity devices on my wall |
| 08:45.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | also known as posters |
| 08:45.13 | SunTiger | the original starwars would never have made blockbuster status were it released with better graphics now. |
| 08:45.52 | Nom- | Having said that |
| 08:46.03 | Nom- | Without Star Wars, we wouldn't have so much of the special effects we have now |
| 08:46.11 | Bleeter | pfft |
| 08:46.18 | SunTiger | i disagree |
| 08:46.35 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:46.39 | Bleeter | 2001 more important sfx wise, imo |
| 08:46.48 | Nom- | For what reason, Bleeter ? |
| 08:46.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it wouldn't be, without star wars |
| 08:47.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh i missed nom saying that earlier |
| 08:47.15 | Nom- | :) |
| 08:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | ILM pretty much paved the way for special effects |
| 08:47.22 | Nom- | Pretty much |
| 08:47.26 | Nom- | They didn't exist before ILM |
| 08:47.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | not anything compared to what we have now |
| 08:47.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe some stop motion animation |
| 08:47.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe a puppet or two |
| 08:48.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | ILM started the ball rolling |
| 08:48.20 | Nom- | Star Wars was the instigator of the Special Effects age |
| 08:48.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | or started the giant adventurer-chasing-rock rolling |
| 08:48.42 | Bleeter | go watch the star gate sequence from 2001.. hell, go watch 2001 |
| 08:48.42 | Nom- | So yes, while Star Wars released here and now would probably not be as big a hit |
| 08:48.57 | Nom- | That's only because of everything that comes before it |
| 08:49.05 | Bleeter | ILM weren't doing much beyond computerizing most of the stuff developed in 2001 |
| 08:49.33 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:51.13 | Nom- | From what I can remember from 2001 they didn't do anything really groundbreaking |
| 08:51.53 | Nom- | And computerized special effects didn't come until the 90' |
| 08:51.54 | Nom- | ss |
| 08:52.46 | Nom- | Virtually everything that 2001 did, from what I can recall is just miniatures and cameras |
| 08:52.48 | Nom- | That's about it |
| 08:53.12 | Nom- | Stationary cameras at that |
| 08:54.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2001 set my movie ADD off like mad |
| 08:55.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i couldn't watch it |
| 08:55.41 | Nom- | i skipped the first 20 minutes |
| 08:55.51 | Nom- | the apes just pissed me off too much |
| 08:56.14 | Nom- | After the first 2-3 minutes, I was like "get to the fucking point" |
| 08:56.24 | Bleeter | front projection, *decent men in monkey suits* (strangely enough, the monkey suits didn't win an award, the following year planet of the apes did), slit-scan photography... |
| 08:56.38 | Bleeter | slit scan's still used today |
| 08:57.10 | Bleeter | might've been the first super-panavision 70, tho don't quote me on that |
| 08:58.00 | Bleeter | ah, the generation who have no time for the book.. thing about 2001, is you miss 1/2 the plot if you don't read the book, if you only read the book, you also miss 1/2 the plot |
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| 08:58.58 | Bleeter | (there's also the minor problem of disjoint plot due to trying to get the book and movie out at the same time, and kubrick not being happy with any of the Saturn footage he shot) |
| 08:59.09 | Bleeter | hence, book is @ saturn, movie @ jupiter |
| 09:02.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | kubrick actually flew to saturn without a spaceship for that movie. |
| 09:03.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | turns out it was just orson welles at a weird angle |
| 09:13.14 | Bleeter | Nom-: Chaser's back on telly tonight! :D |
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| 09:55.43 | leethal | having some issues with localization.. doing this - http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_AddOn - gives me unitialized constant stuff |
| 09:56.01 | leethal | it seems like it doesn't care about my localization.lua at all. Adding e.g. obfuscated lua in it does not raise anything at all |
| 09:56.18 | leethal | and yes, I have <Script file="localization.lua"/> in the xml |
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| 10:04.51 | leethal | any ideas? |
| 10:05.21 | leethal | defining MY_CONSTANT in the main lua file works (of course), defining the same constant in my localization.lua makes it complain about nil constants |
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| 10:20.11 | Kaso | what you define the same variable twice? and yet its still saying nil at some points? |
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| 10:39.31 | leethal | Kaso: I can re-define the constant in the main lua file without any errors |
| 10:40.41 | Kaso | so whats the problem? |
| 10:41.09 | leethal | as mentioned above. When defining it in the localization.lua, they are apparently nil |
| 10:41.42 | Kaso | sure it isnt local? perhaps the load order means the maiin lua file loads before its defined in localiatsaion |
| 10:42.37 | wereHamster | isn't localization.lua loaded after the file you use teh constant in? |
| 10:42.48 | leethal | mm, perhaps |
| 10:43.14 | leethal | I tried adding it both before and after the main lua file, but same thing |
| 10:43.35 | leethal | the code is here - http://wow-afktell.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ |
| 10:44.29 | leethal | I tried adding that AFK_END message to the string that appears when i exit afk - afktimer:EndAFK() |
| 10:44.54 | leethal | then I get "attempt to concaenate global 'AFK_START' (a nil value) |
| 10:45.27 | leethal | typo - "i tried adding that AFK_START message" |
| 10:46.44 | leethal | same thing happens if I put the <Script file="localization.lua" /> above the afktimer.lua |
| 10:47.36 | wereHamster | hm.. add some :AddMessage() to the files to see the load order |
| 10:48.37 | leethal | how could that tell me the load order? |
| 10:48.40 | leethal | <== noob |
| 10:49.28 | leethal | oh, onLoad I guess |
| 10:51.15 | wereHamster | if you add :AddMessage to the very beginning of every file, you'll see in the chatframe in which order the files are loaded |
| 10:52.51 | leethal | hmm.. the localization.lua doesn't even load |
| 10:53.51 | wereHamster | typo? |
| 10:54.08 | leethal | doesn't seem like it |
| 10:54.52 | leethal | no, not typoed either =/ |
| 10:55.11 | wereHamster | what if you add localization.lua to the toc file? |
| 10:55.15 | leethal | anything wrong with the syntax? http://wow-afktell.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/afktimer.xml |
| 10:55.19 | leethal | I'll try that |
| 10:55.41 | leethal | no, still nothing |
| 10:55.56 | leethal | I'll try restarting wow or something, perhaps something fucked up |
| 10:56.06 | leethal | been doing reloadui so far |
| 10:56.48 | leethal | hah.. loads now |
| 10:57.06 | leethal | silly me forgot that you need to restart WoW when you add new files |
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| 11:48.26 | leethal | doing who list queries is the only way to get a players level, class etc if all you got is a string whit the players name? |
| 11:48.35 | leethal | as in, not in your party or raid or whatever |
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| 11:49.34 | leethal | s/whit/with |
| 12:00.48 | JoshBorke | correct |
| 12:02.56 | leethal | having a go with a gold spammage blocker, testing if a message comes from a level 1 player and contains "gold", "g o l d" and so on should work |
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| 12:24.57 | wobin | rofl |
| 12:24.58 | wobin | http://userpic.livejournal.com/59995132/1167308 |
| 12:25.11 | JoshBorke | wobin: gief splut update! |
| 12:25.24 | wobin | hurro Josh |
| 12:25.26 | wobin | Well |
| 12:27.41 | wobin | I'm moving out over Easter |
| 12:27.41 | wobin | And will be netless for at least a week |
| 12:27.41 | JoshBorke | NO EXCUSES! |
| 12:27.41 | wobin | of which I kinda intend to work on stuff |
| 12:27.41 | JoshBorke | :-P that's cool |
| 12:27.42 | JoshBorke | are you happy to be moving? |
| 12:27.42 | wobin | aye |
| 12:27.42 | wobin | It's a 'finally' sort of move |
| 12:27.42 | wobin | ie, finally I'm moving out =P |
| 12:27.43 | JoshBorke | cool :-) |
| 12:29.27 | xlvii | does anyone know of a site with abstract (preferably black and white / sepia) photography? |
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| 17:14.18 | JoshBorke | how anyone leveled fishing beyond 280 is beyond me |
| 17:14.30 | Shirik | how anyone levels beyond 25 is beyond me >< |
| 17:14.35 | Shirik | I never could |
| 17:14.44 | Kaso | fishing is awesome! |
| 17:15.08 | Kaso | Duel monitors, plus a TV card, thats how i did my fishing |
| 17:15.38 | JoshBorke | yea, i've started reading while fishing |
| 17:15.44 | JoshBorke | but dayumn, it takes foever |
| 17:16.03 | kergoth | putting that wav file into data for a nice ping sound helps |
| 17:17.15 | JoshBorke | what wav file? |
| 17:17.29 | kergoth | theres a few floating around |
| 17:17.31 | JoshBorke | i would LOVE to change the sound of the splash |
| 17:17.33 | kergoth | search curse for fishping |
| 17:17.36 | JoshBorke | but i don't know how |
| 17:17.38 | kergoth | theres one on wowi too i think |
| 17:18.18 | zenzelezz | leveling fishing isn't too bad until after 300 |
| 17:18.23 | zenzelezz | even then all you need is some time |
| 17:18.29 | JoshBorke | i'm up to 290 |
| 17:19.28 | zenzelezz | you can cook some nice stuff with the Outland fish, so it can be worth going all the way |
| 17:19.39 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm going for the crawdad pet |
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| 17:45.16 | Tem | JoshBorke, it's a crawfish |
| 17:45.25 | Tem | crawdads is wrong |
| 17:45.46 | Tem | stupid northerners saying stuff wrong |
| 17:47.18 | Thrae | Crawdads are the daddy, Crawmom are the mommy, Crawkid are the kids |
| 17:50.46 | JoshBorke | meh, i heard it as crawdad |
| 17:50.58 | JoshBorke | as long as no one calls it crayfish we should be ok |
| 17:51.00 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 17:51.02 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn and suddenly hugs Cairenn tightly |
| 17:51.29 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 17:51.31 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on JoshBorke and suddenly hugs JoshBorke tightly |
| 17:51.42 | JoshBorke | make tem be nice to me Cairenn! |
| 17:51.48 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:52.42 | JoshBorke | ok bye |
| 17:52.42 | Shirik | Funny thing is we have a guy in our guild named Krawdad |
| 17:52.49 | Shirik | made for some interesting jokes when we saw those things |
| 17:53.49 | Tem | indeed! crayfish is even worse than crawdad |
| 17:54.05 | Tem | but damn no matter what you call them, they're delicious! |
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| 19:14.44 | JoshBorke | hola (again) |
| 19:15.10 | Shirik | hola |
| 19:15.16 | Shirik | GA tech? |
| 19:15.18 | Shirik | I almost went there |
| 19:15.26 | JoshBorke | yea, 5th year here |
| 19:15.44 | Shirik | nice |
| 19:16.38 | JoshBorke | where did you decide instead? |
| 19:16.49 | Shirik | embry-riddle, small school in Daytona, FL |
| 19:16.54 | Shirik | http://www.erau.edu |
| 19:17.05 | JoshBorke | cool |
| 19:17.06 | Shirik | 2nd year junior there |
| 19:17.32 | JoshBorke | cool :-) |
| 19:18.47 | JoshBorke | bah humbug wereHamster, cooldown isn't saving my options :-( |
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| 19:31.42 | Shirik | omg |
| 19:31.52 | Shirik | so I've been wondering why wow and everything is running so slowly today |
| 19:32.00 | Shirik | I just figured out I've had counterstrike minimized for the past 12 hours |
| 19:32.16 | zenzelezz | you CS fanboi |
| 19:32.32 | Shirik | I just play whatever my guild is playing |
| 19:32.39 | Shirik | BF2, CS, they need me for a match I go |
| 19:33.04 | zenzelezz | I'm joking o_O |
| 19:33.18 | Shirik | It's true :P |
| 19:33.37 | Shirik | I don't play anything, really >< |
| 19:33.38 | Shirik | no time |
| 19:33.54 | Shirik | oops |
| 19:33.57 | Shirik | tracker for what? |
| 19:34.04 | zenzelezz | porn of course |
| 19:34.17 | JoshBorke | i'm guessing wow pr0n |
| 19:35.06 | Shirik | please say it's good anime |
| 19:35.08 | Shirik | what show |
| 19:35.20 | Shirik | if you say dbz I will come to your house and rip off your face |
| 19:35.28 | Tem | no it's not dbz lol |
| 19:35.50 | Tem | Ayakashi Ayashi |
| 19:36.10 | Shirik | nice :) |
| 19:36.52 | Tem | I'm sure I'll be vaguely annoyed by it's unfinishedness, but I've heard good things about it |
| 19:37.02 | Shirik | it is pretty good actually |
| 19:37.33 | Tem | I was planning to wait until it finished to watch it, but I've run out of suggestions for complete shows |
| 19:37.52 | Shirik | Yumeria? |
| 19:38.11 | Shirik | it's only something like 18 episodes though |
| 19:38.25 | Shirik | Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien if you like dramas; it's more like a soap opera though; but I liked it |
| 19:40.44 | Tem | hmm |
| 19:41.13 | Tem | why did FF stop auto searching wikipedia when you entered "wp" into the address bar? |
| 19:41.17 | Tem | I really liked that feature |
| 19:41.28 | Shirik | maybe wikipedia asked them to stop |
| 19:42.08 | zenzelezz | was that ever a Firefox feature? Not some addon perhaps? |
| 19:42.31 | nuoHep | it was in 1.5. got removed in 2 for some reason |
| 19:42.40 | Tem | I miss it |
| 19:45.23 | Shirik | firefox is open source isn't it? |
| 19:45.30 | Shirik | shouldn't be too difficult to add if you wanted to |
| 19:45.36 | Shirik | or create an addon :P |
| 19:46.32 | Tem | yeah, but like |
| 19:46.32 | krka | Tem: you can setup that yourself |
| 19:46.38 | Tem | I have _no idea_ how |
| 19:46.50 | krka | right click on any input text field |
| 19:47.05 | krka | and you can set up the association of the form post with a shortcut |
| 19:47.46 | zenzelezz | "Add a Keyword for this Search"... woot |
| 19:47.46 | Shirik | "add a keyword for this search" ? |
| 19:47.47 | zenzelezz | cheers krka |
| 19:47.50 | Tem | oh hot |
| 19:47.53 | Tem | thanks, krka |
| 19:47.53 | Shirik | nice |
| 19:48.03 | Shirik | thanks |
| 19:48.05 | krka | i use it for wikipedia, google, imdb, et.c. |
| 19:48.08 | Shirik | now I can make one for wowwiki :p |
| 19:48.09 | Tem | hot damn this rocks |
| 19:48.14 | krka | yeah it does! |
| 19:48.19 | zenzelezz | damn you, why didn't you tell me before |
| 19:48.20 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 19:48.20 | Tem | Shirik, what do you need a search on wowwiki for? |
| 19:48.27 | Tem | Shirik, there's like 2 pages you need |
| 19:48.30 | Shirik | because I always type the apis wrong |
| 19:48.35 | Shirik | like if I want SetHeight |
| 19:48.43 | Shirik | I do API_Frame_SetHeight instead of API_Region_SetHeight |
| 19:49.16 | Tem | I just keep two tabs up all the time |
| 19:49.22 | zenzelezz | the search is very handy when you're not quite sure what you're looking for |
| 19:49.24 | Tem | one on the widget page and one on the global api page |
| 19:49.33 | Tem | and I ctrl-f for whatever I'm looking for |
| 19:49.53 | Tem | (which is why I'm so happy Kirkburn|afk finally added a favicon yesterday) |
| 19:49.57 | zenzelezz | ctrl+f? You don't have type-to-search? |
| 19:50.05 | Tem | type to search? |
| 19:50.11 | zenzelezz | type to find, whatever it's called |
| 19:50.16 | Tem | this an addon? |
| 19:50.17 | Shirik | I leave the ctrl+f bar up |
| 19:50.20 | Shirik | all the time |
| 19:50.31 | zenzelezz | no Tem, standard feature |
| 19:51.06 | Tem | ah yeah I found it |
| 19:51.33 | Tem | mm |
| 19:51.38 | Tem | I like ctrl-f better |
| 19:51.42 | Shirik | I do too |
| 19:52.08 | zenzelezz | personal taste |
| 19:52.47 | Tem | *nod* |
| 19:55.16 | Tem | woah |
| 19:55.24 | Tem | 500kB/s |
| 19:55.33 | Shirik | who's your uberseed? |
| 19:56.01 | Tem | some guy ina country whos flag I don't recognize |
| 19:56.13 | Tem | 345kB/s |
| 19:56.13 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:56.41 | Tem | looks like indonesia |
| 19:56.54 | Tem | oh, no it's not that |
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| 19:58.16 | Tem | .pl |
| 19:59.08 | Tem | Poland |
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| 20:28.14 | Cairenn | welcome back spliters |
| 20:28.15 | MentalPower | split!!!! |
| 20:28.15 | Shirik | niven ftl :( |
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| 20:31.15 | Tem | sone of a bitch |
| 20:31.15 | Tem | s/e// |
| 20:31.15 | Tem | vlc won't play the video |
| 20:31.15 | Tem | and mplayer won't show me the subtitles |
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| 20:36.21 | Tem | *shudder* the dub is terrible |
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| 20:39.15 | Tem | lol it works in vlc |
| 20:39.18 | Tem | but only in xp |
| 20:39.23 | Tem | it fails in vista |
| 20:39.27 | Tem | *sigh* |
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| 20:41.09 | MentalPower | vlc doesn't work on vista properly |
| 20:42.44 | Corrodias | vista fails to be good |
| 20:43.52 | Corrodias | i hope i don't have to reboot to install these codecs. that would be silly. |
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| 20:50.55 | bleeter | vista's *kind* of designed to kill off things like vlc, so I'm not suprised if there's difficulties ;) |
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| 20:59.08 | Corrodias | i like this codec pack. yay. |
| 20:59.12 | Corrodias | yaaaay~ |
| 21:00.03 | MentalPower | http://onemorelevel.com/games3/double-wires.swf |
| 21:00.07 | MentalPower | 88 YDs |
| 21:06.13 | Corrodias | 184.28 :( |
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| 21:28.19 | Shadowed | damn you MentalPower |
| 21:29.16 | MentalPower | what? |
| 21:29.21 | Shadowed | that game |
| 21:29.36 | Shadowed | addicting! |
| 21:40.01 | wereHamster | quite hard that game.. but fun :) |
| 21:40.18 | Guillotine | what game? |
| 21:42.08 | IleBur | http://onemorelevel.com/games3/double-wires.swf |
| 21:42.28 | IleBur | annoying + addictive is a bad combination, dammit |
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| 21:43.33 | Shadowed | 280 :( |
| 21:45.08 | Guillotine | zomg, this game is awesome |
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| 21:47.40 | sysrage | heh ya |
| 21:48.17 | Guillotine | woo! 62.06 YD! |
| 21:48.29 | Guillotine | I feel so accomplished |
| 21:48.54 | sysrage | beat me by 1 yard |
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| 21:56.28 | Guillotine | wow, I lost by going too far up o.O |
| 22:01.33 | Shadowed | I managed to shoot myself off the screen for about 10 seconds |
| 22:01.49 | Guillotine | I just did this |
| 22:01.52 | Guillotine | that* |
| 22:01.55 | Guillotine | landed on top of the red though |
| 22:01.59 | Guillotine | so nothing to shoot my wires at :/ |
| 22:05.54 | Guillotine | 136.85 :D |
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| 22:54.15 | Kirkburn|afk | cogwheel|work, wizards did it. |
| 22:54.50 | Corrodias | it's because you displeased the gods |
| 22:55.00 | Corrodias | you must pay more sacrifices |
| 23:03.01 | Kirkburn|afk | 90.97 yards :P |
| 23:03.57 | Industrial | i bet its that peer dude |
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| 23:32.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Heh, awesome RPG motivational posters - http://www.cruisegazing.com/RPG_Motivational/page_01.htm |
| 23:32.47 | Industrial | lol win |
| 23:32.52 | Industrial | *watch* |
| 23:37.25 | Industrial | http://www.cruisegazing.com/RPG_Motivational/clearance.jpg |
| 23:37.26 | Industrial | wahhh |
| 23:42.51 | Industrial | http://www.cruisegazing.com/RPG_Motivational/fanfic.jpg |
| 23:42.53 | Industrial | L M A O |
| 23:43.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Heh - http://www.cruisegazing.com/RPG_Motivational/warmor.jpg |
| 23:43.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Rofl, Indy |
| 23:48.00 | TC | hit 146.91 |
| 23:50.46 | Industrial | http://www.cruisegazing.com/RPG_Motivational/lern2play.jpg |
| 23:50.50 | Industrial | giggle, thats so true |
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| 23:58.49 | Shirik | I like http://www.cruisegazing.com/RPG_Motivational/cluebat.jpg the best |
| 23:58.59 | Shirik | probably something from experience :/ |
