| 00:00.23 | Antiarc|Work | Haha |
| 00:00.52 | Antiarc|Work | Esamynn, try again |
| 00:00.58 | Antiarc|Work | I added a "no trim" checkbox |
| 00:01.39 | wereHamster | I like that website.. mostly because I can't use armory (stupid flash ...) |
| 00:01.53 | Antiarc|Work | That's mostly why I wrote it :P |
| 00:03.36 | Esamynn | Antiarc|Work: that's better |
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| 00:04.56 | Esamynn | Antiarc|Work: let me guess, filter level is 60 for the class comparison page, right? |
| 00:05.06 | Kirkburn | Aww, I really really hope LittleBigPlanet isn't going to PS3 only |
| 00:05.08 | Kirkburn | (http://www.fun-motion.com/news/littlebigplanet-announced/) |
| 00:05.17 | Antiarc|Work | Esamynn: Yes |
| 00:05.18 | Kirkburn | It's sooooo cute |
| 00:05.40 | wereHamster | Antiarc|Work, how does your ruby script work? does it use plain html to get the data? |
| 00:06.16 | Antiarc|Work | wereHamster: If you send a Firefox user agent to the armory, you get XML back :) |
| 00:06.22 | Esamynn | god, I didn't realise how short of Druid mains we really are |
| 00:06.46 | wereHamster | and flash is then supposed to display it somehow.. |
| 00:06.53 | wereHamster | in a normal browser |
| 00:07.09 | wereHamster | correct? |
| 00:07.24 | Antiarc|Work | Well, it transforms it with XSLT |
| 00:07.28 | Antiarc|Work | Which includes flash embeds |
| 00:07.59 | wereHamster | last time I checked the macos browser didn't support xslt.. |
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| 00:08.35 | WobWor1 | anyone have the 300 'Red Sauce on Pasta' animated gif? |
| 00:14.05 | WobWor1 | =\ |
| 00:14.10 | WobWor1 | You'd think it was easy to find =P |
| 00:14.15 | WobWor1 | oh wait. purl logs! |
| 00:14.17 | WobWor1 | ~logs |
| 00:14.19 | purl | [logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 00:14.23 | WobWor1 | <3 purl |
| 00:14.46 | wereHamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.48 | WobWor1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:27.47 | Xenok | WOOT!! trojan GONE!! |
| 00:28.21 | Industrial | the ones that tap a mob right in front of you when you take down a possible add in the area and act like they didnt know when its an elite named mob are the worst |
| 00:28.41 | Industrial | was looking for the mob for 30 mins cause he walks in a big area T_T |
| 00:29.15 | Xenok | yes they are T_T |
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| 00:30.22 | Xenok | but still.. |
| 00:30.28 | Xenok | TROJAN GONE!! YAY!! |
| 00:31.06 | wereHamster | are you sure? really really sure? |
| 00:31.12 | Xenok | yes i am!! |
| 00:31.13 | Xenok | yay |
| 00:32.04 | Industrial | bye bye will to play wow |
| 00:32.08 | Xenok | who was it that gave me the google the items you don't know idea? TY |
| 00:32.09 | Industrial | sigh |
| 00:32.17 | Xenok | your very mad arn't you? |
| 00:33.01 | Industrial | thitr fight lasted 1.5 minutes and they didnt invite us while i danced in front of their nose yelling to inv us |
| 00:33.11 | Xenok | sheesh.. what jerks |
| 00:33.40 | Industrial | good thing i can vent my anger into text instead of breaking stuff :o |
| 00:33.50 | Xenok | hehe yah |
| 00:34.24 | Xenok | reminds me of the time my dad tagged a rare in Blades edge and then had to vanish cuz he wasn't strong enough and then some other guy was just watching ... and said "grp" like right as my dad was about to die.. then the other guy killed him and was like "too bad" |
| 00:34.45 | Xenok | made my dad ticked |
| 00:35.11 | Corrodias | quick, anybody |
| 00:35.16 | Corrodias | how do i enable the mana bars in praid? |
| 00:35.17 | Xenok | apples! |
| 00:35.27 | Xenok | umm /shrug |
| 00:35.39 | Xenok | ~llama |
| 00:35.40 | purl | from memory, llama is the incarnation of god on earth, or http://images2.jokaroo.net/flash/llamasong.swf |
| 00:36.37 | Xenok | hehe |
| 00:36.43 | Xenok | ~llamasongpart1 |
| 00:36.45 | purl | here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. |
| 00:36.58 | Karrion | Corrodias: there's a :Hide() line you have to comment out I think |
| 00:37.04 | Karrion | can't recall precisely |
| 00:38.09 | Industrial | 2500kbps goog :D |
| 00:38.13 | Industrial | im happy again now |
| 00:39.05 | Xenok | omg.. I went to petsmart the other day.. and you know how you can take your pet INTO the store.. someone brought thier alpaca O.o twas wierd |
| 00:39.17 | wereHamster | omg LittleBigPlanet is soo nice O.o |
| 00:39.17 | Xenok | wittle baby alpaca |
| 00:39.32 | Xenok | ~alpaca |
| 00:39.37 | Karrion | Corrodias: 2007-03-06 01:46.12cladhairethere's a manabar:Hide() |
| 00:39.37 | Karrion | 2007-03-06 01:46.15cladhairecomment that out |
| 00:39.43 | Xenok | purl, screw you |
| 00:39.44 | purl | ACTION asks you to bend over |
| 00:39.48 | Xenok | eep! |
| 00:40.33 | Industrial | littlebigplanet? |
| 00:40.44 | Xenok | ~fudge |
| 00:40.45 | purl | it has been said that fudge is a bot raper! |
| 00:40.52 | Xenok | O.o |
| 00:41.01 | Industrial | ~industrial |
| 00:41.02 | purl | you are, like, a coder-monkey |
| 00:41.07 | Xenok | lol |
| 00:41.09 | Industrial | lol who put that in |
| 00:41.13 | Xenok | ~xenok |
| 00:41.17 | Xenok | darnit |
| 00:41.18 | Industrial | fail :D |
| 00:41.23 | Industrial | ~emulate industrial |
| 00:41.24 | purl | Addon users are addicts. |
| 00:41.26 | Xenok | purl fails! |
| 00:41.28 | purl | I fail? I FAIL? NO, YOU FAIL!!! |
| 00:41.28 | wereHamster | 01:02 < Kirkburn> (http://www.fun-motion.com/news/littlebigplanet-announced/) |
| 00:41.34 | Industrial | lol |
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| 00:41.48 | Kirkburn | wereHamster, you're so right |
| 00:41.53 | Xenok | LOL were ham |
| 00:42.03 | Kirkburn | I wanna be the lil' Spaceman! |
| 00:42.11 | Xenok | purple cape ftw |
| 00:42.28 | wereHamster | I'll buy a PS3 just for that game :) |
| 00:42.40 | Xenok | hehe |
| 00:42.44 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:42.52 | Kirkburn | It has certainly made me think about it |
| 00:43.05 | Kirkburn | My housemate is planning on getting one though, so there's hope for me yet |
| 00:43.08 | Industrial | wereHamster: lol wow that looks very very nice what platform? |
| 00:43.10 | wereHamster | or is there a PS3 emulator? |
| 00:43.15 | Kirkburn | PS3 only atm |
| 00:43.26 | Xenok | cute |
| 00:43.40 | Kirkburn | I doubt that it'll stay exclusive though |
| 00:43.55 | Shadowed | Interesting, guess armory is updating live now |
| 00:44.00 | Kirkburn | (at least, until a while after release) |
| 00:44.08 | Xenok | lol that is cute look game |
| 00:44.20 | wereHamster | I hope it's not DX10 |
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| 00:44.48 | Xenok | space main fails |
| 00:45.10 | Kirkburn | More info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littlebigplanet |
| 00:45.27 | Kirkburn | Naw! Spaceman is cool :( |
| 00:45.58 | Xenok | space man fails |
| 00:46.07 | Xenok | little black/brown monkey guy ftw |
| 00:46.08 | Kirkburn | Meanie |
| 00:46.15 | Xenok | he just slow |
| 00:46.17 | Kirkburn | Ah, problemo - "Media Molecule was later aquired by SCEE" |
| 00:46.36 | Xenok | I have no clue what that means |
| 00:46.37 | Industrial | :O~ @ fun motion btw |
| 00:47.10 | Kirkburn | Official website too - http://www.mediamolecule.com/games.html |
| 00:47.21 | Kirkburn | Industrial, been reading the blog for a few months - really good stuff on it |
| 00:47.56 | Xenok | "These tools enable the player to dynamically place, edit, morph, rotate and interact with objects within the game world." SWEET I love customisable! |
| 00:48.10 | Industrial | Kirkburn: k :d |
| 00:48.21 | Xenok | custum.. customizable |
| 00:48.24 | Xenok | thre we go |
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| 00:48.36 | Kirkburn | One of the guys behind it was behind RagDoll Kung Fu |
| 00:48.43 | Xenok | lol |
| 00:49.01 | Xenok | im just happy that trojan ~= my computer :D |
| 00:49.15 | Xenok | but |
| 00:49.24 | Xenok | trojan == nil |
| 00:49.26 | Xenok | :D |
| 00:49.31 | Kirkburn | awesome |
| 00:49.51 | Industrial | I want spore btw |
| 00:49.56 | Xenok | the game? |
| 00:49.58 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:50.01 | Xenok | me too :D |
| 00:50.31 | Xenok | the one where you start out small and evolve your characters into greater smarter beings? |
| 00:50.44 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:50.50 | Industrial | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore_game#Release |
| 00:50.50 | Xenok | I want it bad |
| 00:50.58 | Xenok | or http://www.spore.com/ |
| 00:52.19 | Xenok | game looks awsome |
| 00:52.48 | wereHamster | I wish the littleigplanet GDC presentation video was in a higher resolution.. :( |
| 00:54.06 | Kirkburn | I'm sure we'll get high res stuff soon :) |
| 00:54.52 | Kirkburn | Oh the GDC presentation stuff is awesome - you can control their arms and head, etc |
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| 00:55.49 | Xenok | wheres this GDC presentation? |
| 00:56.18 | Kirkburn | On http://www.mediamolecule.com/games.html |
| 00:56.26 | Xenok | aight ty |
| 00:56.43 | Kirkburn | You can customize your char it seems, so you can be whoever you want to be. Still wanna be spaceman though |
| 00:56.59 | Xenok | lol |
| 00:57.08 | Kirkburn | Ooh, a highres screenie - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Littlebigplanetscreen814_screen.jpg |
| 00:57.50 | Xenok | hha awsome |
| 01:01.27 | Nom- | LOL @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4 |
| 01:01.48 | Kirkburn | Hey, I just noticed, it's British :D |
| 01:02.13 | Kirkburn | Based in Guildford (like many games companies - Bullfrog was there, I think Lionhead is there) |
| 01:02.32 | Xenok | PETER MOLYNEUX! |
| 01:02.34 | Xenok | lol |
| 01:02.39 | Xenok | fave game maker sorry |
| 01:03.11 | Xenok | lol nom- |
| 01:03.30 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 01:03.55 | Kirkburn | Also, Phil Harrison, the PS3 guy who introduced the game - also British. We're everywhere :P |
| 01:04.34 | Xenok | I love peter molyneux concept at making games.. |
| 01:04.36 | bleetah | Kirk: Ford Prefect, though, *wasn't* from Guilford ;) |
| 01:04.49 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 01:04.59 | Kirkburn | Xenok, you heard about the dog in Fable 2? |
| 01:05.13 | Xenok | I never got fable 2 T_T |
| 01:05.31 | Xenok | what dog? |
| 01:05.40 | Kirkburn | It would be quite hard to get it, it's not out yet :P |
| 01:05.51 | Xenok | oh im thinking of the recent one |
| 01:06.01 | Xenok | fable for the comp |
| 01:06.07 | Kirkburn | Shall link in a sec |
| 01:06.25 | Xenok | oh yeah.. im thinking of the lost chapters |
| 01:06.34 | Kirkburn | http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/08/fable-2-mans-best-friend/ |
| 01:06.54 | Xenok | woot peter molyneux! |
| 01:07.07 | Nom- | http://deadspin.com/sports/clips/soon-americans-will-lack-the-need-to-move-240329.php |
| 01:07.10 | Nom- | hahaha |
| 01:07.51 | Xenok | beer launching mini fridge! lol |
| 01:08.29 | Xenok | hate to be near it |
| 01:08.53 | Nom- | But... beer... |
| 01:09.16 | Xenok | LOL that hilarious |
| 01:10.19 | Xenok | kirk: thats going to be interesting :D |
| 01:10.59 | Xenok | HAH "Peter explains that the polygonal pooch has been programmed with two fundamental laws. "It must not piss you off," is the first one." |
| 01:11.53 | Xenok | oo a gun |
| 01:13.28 | Xenok | omg you can kill the dog too?! |
| 01:13.30 | Xenok | eep |
| 01:13.56 | Nom- | Got my bike back this morning |
| 01:14.05 | Nom- | Gotta adjust the gear shift on the weekend...they moved it :( |
| 01:14.26 | Xenok | Kirk: ty so much for that! now I just need an Xbox 360 T_T |
| 01:14.36 | Xenok | and peter is exelent at making games |
| 01:15.33 | Xenok | ok hmm it says I need "(" near the ")" but how many are in this line? :P addBookmark(GetZoneText(), x, y, label) |
| 01:15.59 | Xenok | I guess its the () thinking the second one is the end of the function call |
| 01:16.39 | Kirkburn | Xenok :P |
| 01:16.49 | Xenok | so wtf do I do? |
| 01:16.50 | Xenok | lol |
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| 01:18.06 | Karrion | Xenok: you probably missed one on a previous line |
| 01:18.28 | Xenok | hm |
| 01:19.02 | Xenok | no... wierd |
| 01:29.40 | Nom- | lol |
| 01:29.42 | Nom- | 10:27:46 up 353 days |
| 01:29.55 | Nom- | someone just sent me an email congratulating on the downtime |
| 01:30.07 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.53 | Kirkburn | Wow, what a load avergage! |
| 01:32.06 | Xenok | hmm now it says I need an "=" near PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA in PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA["Arathi Highlands"] while the line above it is Alterac mountains and IT doesn't have "=" |
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| 01:36.31 | Nom- | Xenok: Sounds like you didn't close a statement properly :) |
| 01:37.35 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 01:39.43 | wereHamster | bug or not? wow won't save character-specific bindings of the 'global' bindings-cache.txt is read-only |
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| 01:42.19 | sysrage | uh? |
| 01:42.27 | sysrage | is that a trick question? |
| 01:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | of = if |
| 01:46.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 01:47.21 | Nom- | There's character specific bindings? =O |
| 01:47.36 | Nom- | I usually just use one set of keys and move skills around to fit =O |
| 01:48.06 | Iriel|working | wereHamster: I'd say "not" |
| 01:50.12 | wereHamster | hm.. :( |
| 01:51.03 | Xenok | do tables have to BE_LIKE_THIS ? or can the be like : zoneData = {} ? |
| 01:52.03 | Karrion | Xenok: they can have any name, as long as it's a valid identifier |
| 01:52.11 | Xenok | hmm |
| 01:53.22 | Xenok | ahh darn typos I put pairs instead of ipairs |
| 01:54.14 | Xenok | hmm nvm |
| 01:55.10 | eternally777 | It'll still work, just slower. |
| 01:55.19 | Xenok | it says that zoneData in "for coord, label in ipairs(zoneData) do " needs to be a table and that it reads as a string WTF?! I have a table named zoneData |
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| 01:57.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | tables TALK_LIKE_THIS |
| 01:57.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | and strings talk like this |
| 01:57.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know. |
| 01:57.49 | Kirkburn | and yoda like this speak |
| 01:57.50 | eternally777 | Don't confuse him :-P |
| 01:58.01 | Xenok | hmm |
| 01:58.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't even know what i'm talking about i'm just referencing some random joke |
| 01:59.07 | Karrion | Xenok: is your table defined local somewhere that the code can't see it? |
| 01:59.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | people should know not to take anything even remotely coding related from me seriously by now :p |
| 01:59.16 | Xenok | don't think so |
| 01:59.29 | Xenok | its placed above the line that bugs |
| 01:59.34 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies2, that sounds so familiar ^^ |
| 01:59.42 | Xenok | well somwhre in the lua above |
| 01:59.49 | Karrion | pastey your code ;-) |
| 01:59.58 | Xenok | umm ok |
| 02:00.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | what does kirk |
| 02:00.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | me stating i don't know jack about lua? :p |
| 02:00.27 | Kirkburn | The last thing you said before I just said it sounded familiar |
| 02:00.36 | Kirkburn | Well, yes :P |
| 02:00.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm terrible at anything coding related |
| 02:01.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | outside of mirc |
| 02:01.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can read other people's code and see what it does but i can't write my own |
| 02:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | vaguely see what it does |
| 02:01.34 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7997 be my entire lua |
| 02:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least, unless it's obfuscated to hell and back like Thottbot.lua :p |
| 02:01.51 | Xenok | thottbot.lua? |
| 02:02.00 | eternally777 | what line bugs? |
| 02:02.05 | Xenok | hold on |
| 02:02.41 | Xenok | 66 |
| 02:03.00 | Kirkburn | Thott makes his code really hard to understand and therefore copy |
| 02:03.01 | Karrion | you have a function showBookmarks(zoneData) |
| 02:03.06 | Xenok | afk |
| 02:03.24 | Karrion | which then contains a line: local zoneData = PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA[GetZoneText()]; |
| 02:03.55 | Karrion | that line will override the parameter that was passed in; is that intentional? |
| 02:05.10 | Mr_Rabies | oops i meant thottbotengine.lua |
| 02:05.11 | Mr_Rabies | http://wowi.pastey.net/7998 |
| 02:05.13 | Mr_Rabies | FRIGHTENING |
| 02:05.24 | Xenok | sorry was afk |
| 02:05.25 | Karrion | and PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA[GetZoneText()]; is a string, because you assign them with PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA["Alterac Mountains"] = GetZoneText(); etc |
| 02:06.45 | Xenok | karrion: I don't know if that was intentional |
| 02:07.09 | wereHamster | Mr_Rabies, why does thott obfuscate his code? |
| 02:07.11 | Xenok | Mr_rabies: what si hat? |
| 02:09.22 | Karrion | OK so it looks like PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA is supposed to be a table of String(zone name) => Table( String(coordinate) => String(label) ) , is that right? |
| 02:09.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | he probably doesnt want script kiddies to find more exploits than they already have |
| 02:11.19 | Xenok | sorry was making hotdog this time |
| 02:12.10 | Xenok | I am nearly positive karrion |
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| 02:14.06 | Karrion | ok, so all the assignments on lines 79 - 129 are wrong, because they are assigning a string to PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA[<string>], where you want it to be a table |
| 02:14.19 | Xenok | aw man |
| 02:14.43 | Karrion | is PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA your savedvariable? |
| 02:14.50 | Xenok | no. its a table |
| 02:15.34 | Karrion | you can have a table as a savedvariable, and I'm presuming you'd want to preserve your labels between sessions... |
| 02:15.57 | Xenok | correct |
| 02:16.27 | Karrion | OK, so in your TOC you'll have ##SavedVariables: PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA |
| 02:17.07 | Xenok | k |
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| 02:18.25 | Karrion | get rid of lines 78 - 129, and instead catch the VARIABLES_LOADED event, and in that do: if (PRT_BOOKMARKS_DATA == nil) then PRT_BOOKMARKS_DATA = {}; end |
| 02:18.43 | MentalPower | vars loaded == bad, addon loaded == good |
| 02:18.54 | Xenok | groan... need to feed dog .. hold on |
| 02:19.15 | Karrion | eh, either way ;-) |
| 02:19.59 | Xenok | ok |
| 02:20.06 | Xenok | so ... hmm |
| 02:20.17 | Karrion | so do you understand what that will do? |
| 02:20.42 | Xenok | I do this:RegisterEvent:("ADDON_LOADED") anywhere in my xml or lua? |
| 02:20.51 | Xenok | er wiat |
| 02:21.04 | Xenok | Event("ADDON_LO... |
| 02:21.22 | Karrion | yes, prefereably in your Bookmarks_OnLoad function |
| 02:21.33 | Xenok | k |
| 02:23.18 | Karrion | so now we're loading the PRT_BOOKMARKS_DATA from the saved variables, and if it doesn't exists (eg this is the first time the addon had been loaded), we start off with an empty table |
| 02:24.24 | Xenok | er... umm .. I do if ( event == ADDON_LOADED ) then; if (PRT_BOOKMARKS_DATA == nil) then PRT_BOOKMARKS_DATA = {}; end end anywhere in my lua? |
| 02:25.32 | Karrion | do that in an OnEvent handler, so in Bookmarks_OnEvent |
| 02:25.37 | Xenok | aight |
| 02:25.46 | Karrion | also you need quotes around ADDON_LOADED |
| 02:25.53 | Xenok | er oh eyah |
| 02:27.32 | Xenok | aight got that part down.. |
| 02:28.38 | Karrion | ok, now PRT_BOOKMARKS_DATA will be holding tables, and ipairs(zoneData) should work |
| 02:29.08 | Xenok | do I need to add/remove anything else? |
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| 02:30.23 | Karrion | I'm not sure about the line (70 in the pastey): field:SetText(addBookmark(GetZoneText(), x, y, label)); |
| 02:30.42 | Xenok | whats not sure about it? |
| 02:30.47 | Karrion | it seems to me that you should be getting the bookmark text, not trying to add one there? |
| 02:31.17 | Xenok | ahh good point >< |
| 02:31.54 | Karrion | I have to go eat, have a play with it and see how you go, will be back later |
| 02:32.04 | Xenok | ok ty |
| 02:38.53 | Nom- | Xenok: Didn't like Cartographer waypoints ? |
| 02:39.14 | Xenok | I don't wanan think about my compition :P |
| 02:39.29 | Xenok | hows that sig maker coming? |
| 02:39.39 | Nom- | Oh hold atm |
| 02:39.43 | Xenok | ah |
| 02:39.45 | Nom- | Found one done by a Kiwi that's further along |
| 02:39.46 | Nom- | :) |
| 02:39.55 | Xenok | hehe |
| 02:40.05 | Kirkburn | My god, House has Billy from Neighbours in it?! |
| 02:40.54 | Kirkburn | Yes, you should know what I'm talking about, you philistines :P |
| 02:41.17 | Kirkburn | At least I didn't say "My god, House has Hugh Laurie in it?!" |
| 02:41.26 | Xenok | IT DOES?! |
| 02:41.29 | Xenok | :P |
| 02:41.58 | Kirkburn | I wonder how many viewers actually know he's a British comedic actor? :) |
| 02:42.23 | Xenok | I don't watch house.. I watch Law and order SVU |
| 02:42.31 | Xenok | totaly different |
| 02:42.38 | Tain | Yeah, House is better. |
| 02:42.45 | Kirkburn | Damn |
| 02:42.48 | Kirkburn | You beat me to it ;P |
| 02:42.50 | Xenok | Im sqeemish |
| 02:42.53 | Xenok | :P |
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| 02:43.20 | Tain | They removed half of Dave Matthews brain! |
| 02:43.34 | Xenok | I couldn't stand drivers ed it was so gorey >< |
| 02:43.50 | Xenok | thank goodness I passed.. but.. .I havn't taken behind the wheel |
| 02:43.54 | Xenok | T_T |
| 02:44.37 | Xenok | only practice I got was an elentary schools parking lot... hmm |
| 02:44.53 | Xenok | doh it was a highschool on saterday |
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| 02:49.37 | Kirkburn | Lol, this is silly - regarding House's theme tune: |
| 02:49.41 | Kirkburn | "Due to rights and licensing issues this music is not used for the show in South Africa, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Switzerland (German version), Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Czech Republic, Denmark, Australia, Portugal, Spain, Ireland, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Hungary, Latin America, Greece, Hong Kong, Finland and Turkey." |
| 02:49.57 | Kirkburn | That's one hell of a licensing problem |
| 02:50.08 | Xenok | O_O |
| 02:50.39 | Xenok | I thought Hong Kong was in China.. not its own country |
| 02:50.54 | Xenok | I musta been listening wrong |
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| 02:52.59 | Kirkburn | That's an issue China would rather didn't exist |
| 02:53.52 | Nom- | lol which music? |
| 02:54.15 | Nom- | meh i've only heard the US version anyway |
| 02:57.25 | Xenok | ~seen Iriel|Away |
| 02:57.46 | purl | i haven't seen 'iriel|away', Xenok |
| 02:57.46 | Xenok | hmm |
| 02:57.47 | Xenok | I guess I don't know hat command |
| 02:57.52 | Xenok | okkk |
| 02:58.04 | Xenok | how abouuut... |
| 02:58.09 | Xenok | ~seen Iriel |
| 02:58.11 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 20h 21m 39s ago, saying: 'It has nothing to do with lua or xml, tho'. |
| 02:58.24 | Xenok | almost a ful day |
| 02:59.09 | Xenok | his last words where .. relevent to me being mad at him. |
| 02:59.19 | Xenok | thinking he infected me with a trojan |
| 02:59.39 | Xenok | I feel so guilty |
| 02:59.41 | Xenok | :P |
| 02:59.52 | Nom- | So you should! |
| 03:00.04 | Nom- | Iriel is SNAG...we need to be gentle... |
| 03:00.37 | Xenok | Super Naughty Apple Group ? |
| 03:00.55 | leethal | Seriously Never Aggroing Grul? |
| 03:01.00 | Xenok | lol |
| 03:01.55 | Xenok | Should Never Again Grovel |
| 03:02.31 | Xenok | Should've Never Ate Greenbeans |
| 03:02.49 | Xenok | WTF IS SNAG? |
| 03:03.08 | Nom- | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SNAG |
| 03:03.22 | leethal | haha |
| 03:04.25 | Xenok | OHhh lol |
| 03:04.49 | Xenok | hes metrosexual? |
| 03:04.52 | Xenok | hah |
| 03:05.22 | Nom- | I just make shit up |
| 03:05.43 | Xenok | ah |
| 03:07.00 | Nom- | bloody microsoft |
| 03:07.06 | Nom- | they want to introduce a new format |
| 03:07.14 | Nom- | image format that is |
| 03:07.17 | Nom- | wtf is wrong with png ?? |
| 03:07.52 | Xenok | lol |
| 03:08.07 | Xenok | whered you read that? |
| 03:08.14 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.20 | Nom- | http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9012518 |
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| 03:08.46 | leethal | keke |
| 03:08.46 | leethal | that totally sucks |
| 03:08.48 | leethal | sooooo microsoft |
| 03:09.01 | Xenok | lol |
| 03:09.06 | Xenok | doesn't say what it is either |
| 03:09.25 | Xenok | hey how can you tell how old a web page is? |
| 03:10.08 | Nom- | You can't really |
| 03:10.10 | leethal | how old? |
| 03:10.34 | Nom- | Yah, you can't tell how old a web page is |
| 03:10.36 | Xenok | I just wanna now how old http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?mod=DAB&page=latestversion is |
| 03:10.56 | Nom- | You can't tell |
| 03:10.59 | Xenok | hmm |
| 03:11.31 | Nom- | It's auto-generated by a perl script |
| 03:11.42 | Xenok | figures |
| 03:11.53 | Nom- | When 90% of the web sites in the internet started being generated by PHP and Perl, you lost that ability |
| 03:12.00 | leethal | kinda cute, a web application that use the cgi-bin stuff apache likes |
| 03:12.09 | MentalPower | LAMP FTW! |
| 03:12.09 | Xenok | >< |
| 03:12.29 | MentalPower | Linux+Apache+MySQL+(Perl|Python|PHP) |
| 03:12.31 | Nom- | well my sig maker is a perl script |
| 03:12.50 | Nom- | You can do lots of sneaky stuff with Apache configs now |
| 03:12.51 | Xenok | HAH!! very old that page is!! "## Interface: 11100" |
| 03:13.11 | leethal | dab does not work atm |
| 03:13.14 | Xenok | shh |
| 03:13.27 | leethal | there is a version that's ported, but it doesn't support stance stuff |
| 03:13.35 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/US/Stormscale/Innominata.jpg <-- that is being generated on the fly by a perl script |
| 03:13.39 | Xenok | g2g |
| 03:14.07 | Nom- | As I said...you can do *lots* of sneaky stuff with Apache configs :) |
| 03:14.26 | leethal | like Ruby on Rails dispatches itself on a apache server |
| 03:14.34 | leethal | you set the dispatcher file to be 404 handler |
| 03:14.49 | leethal | then, all requests that is 404 (in other words, not a file or directory on the server) gets routed to that dispatcher |
| 03:14.55 | leethal | sneaky, sneaky |
| 03:15.11 | Nom- | That's a stupid way to do it |
| 03:15.16 | leethal | not really |
| 03:15.17 | Nom- | :) |
| 03:15.29 | Nom- | Yeah, it is... mod_perl ftw |
| 03:15.41 | leethal | that way it's ez mode to have files hosted on the server, and have the app working at the same time |
| 03:15.43 | Nom- | Apache will serve the file directly if it exists, or dispatch to Perl otherwise |
| 03:16.02 | Nom- | And you don't have to do anything dodgy like trap 404 handler |
| 03:17.00 | leethal | the thing is that the files is outside the hosted directory |
| 03:17.08 | leethal | where "files" is the application itself |
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| 03:18.08 | leethal | so the dispatching is all dynamic, not file based |
| 03:18.24 | leethal | if it was file based, I'd agree it was totally stupid |
| 03:19.09 | leethal | but using 404 stuff lets the application do the url generation and the routing - not apache or whatever |
| 03:19.31 | leethal | so url.com/something/foo is routed directly to the app through the dispatcher, instead of mod_rewrite or whatever |
| 03:19.46 | Nom- | fukn dodgy haxxors trying to haxxor my boxen |
| 03:19.55 | Nom- | they just got iptables -j DROP'ed |
| 03:20.29 | Nom- | some dodgy chinese hacker |
| 03:20.59 | leethal | you gotta admit that it's pretty neat? the dispatching that is |
| 03:21.06 | leethal | and good luck with pwning hax00rs |
| 03:21.36 | Nom- | Yeah, you don't need mod_rewrite to use this either |
| 03:21.41 | Nom- | mod_perl is it |
| 03:21.58 | Nom- | i shouldn't even be allowing FTP from everywhere *sigh* |
| 03:22.19 | leethal | Nom-: server admin, are we? |
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| 03:22.38 | Nom- | for my domain, yes |
| 03:22.58 | Nom- | I have a linux boxen running which I do all my personal coding on |
| 03:23.10 | leethal | ah |
| 03:23.19 | leethal | I need to start programming myself. I'm all to much into frameworks |
| 03:23.19 | Nom- | Good luck to any haxxors trying to guess my password lol |
| 03:23.33 | leethal | dropped using ace, for instance |
| 03:23.42 | Nom- | pwgen 20 1 should get you somewhere close |
| 03:23.45 | Nom- | well, not really |
| 03:24.15 | Nom- | 1.8446744073709551616e+83 possible passwords |
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| 03:24.45 | Nom- | that doesn't even count the numbers and symbols |
| 03:24.46 | leethal | kek |
| 03:24.49 | Nom- | So yeah...going to take a while |
| 03:25.48 | leethal | what was that pwgen thingie? |
| 03:26.22 | Nom- | linux utility to generate passwords |
| 03:26.43 | Nom- | euji#peidoochu>kee$c |
| 03:26.45 | Nom- | for example |
| 03:27.17 | leethal | nice, nice |
| 03:27.18 | Nom- | kN:eA']OwIub"|N;s=Bp |
| 03:27.25 | Nom- | That's actually closer to what i've got :) |
| 03:27.29 | Nom- | Missed a few options |
| 03:27.35 | leethal | haha |
| 03:27.43 | Nom- | pwgen -y -c -s 20 1 |
| 03:28.01 | Nom- | -c = Capitalise, -s = Really Secure, -y = Include Symbols |
| 03:28.46 | Nom- | Takes me about a week to memorize, during which time I carry it on my person...so unless someone picks my pocket, they're not going to get that password lol |
| 03:29.41 | leethal | =D |
| 03:32.35 | leethal | is it a gnu thingie? |
| 03:32.47 | leethal | I bet if I google "pwgen" I won't find anything relevant |
| 03:32.59 | Nom- | sudo apt-get install pwgen |
| 03:32.59 | Nom- | :) |
| 03:33.10 | leethal | I'm on osx, don't have it |
| 03:33.17 | leethal | but if it's apt-get-able, I'll find it =D |
| 03:33.50 | Nom- | Yea, it's not standard |
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| 03:34.33 | Iriel | evening |
| 03:37.39 | bleetah | http://sourceforge.net/projects/pwgen |
| 03:37.46 | leethal | yay, thanks |
| 04:00.18 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 04:00.45 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn |
| 04:00.47 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 04:01.06 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on JoshBorke and suddenly hugs JoshBorke tightly |
| 04:01.12 | leethal | O_o |
| 04:01.36 | leethal | purl wins the internet |
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| 04:03.39 | JoshBorke | nn |
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| 04:10.55 | Shikatanai | Does anyone know if there's an AFK timer that displays a counter that counts down until you automatically go <AFK> ? |
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| 04:12.26 | Thunder_Child | there might be, but i have never heard of one |
| 04:13.05 | Shikatanai | it would be handy for people who like to leech honor just put wow in a window on 800x600, move it to the bottom left hand corner of the screen, put up an AFK timer and then open up your favorite browser, and just leave the AFK timer visible |
| 04:14.35 | leethal | any super nice addon to show skill cooldowns? |
| 04:14.47 | leethal | I'm to lazy to test them all myself =P |
| 04:15.19 | Shikatanai | Cooldown Bars |
| 04:15.35 | Shikatanai | its somewhat like elkano's buff bars |
| 04:15.37 | Shikatanai | for cooldowns |
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| 04:29.14 | leethal | Shikatanai: I just made one |
| 04:29.29 | leethal | Shikatanai: oh, wait, I didn't |
| 04:29.48 | leethal | Shikatanai: I made an addon that shows how lond you've been afk. No idea about the auto-afk-timer-thingie |
| 04:30.03 | leethal | Shikatanai: anyways, how would it work? The "hidden" in-game timer starts every time you don't do anything |
| 04:30.17 | leethal | Shikatanai: in other words, an annoying timer. It could pop up after a min or something though |
| 04:35.43 | leethal | Shikatanai: perhaps I'll add it to my addon (mentioned above) |
| 04:38.17 | Nom- | I've not leeched honor once in my entire WoW career |
| 04:38.25 | Shikatanai | leethal: have it reset everytime you press jump of course :) |
| 04:38.31 | leethal | hehe |
| 04:38.32 | Nom- | If I don't want to PvP, then I won't go into the damn battlegroun |
| 04:38.41 | leethal | well, it should be simple to do that |
| 04:38.49 | leethal | everytime something happens, the counter resets |
| 04:39.01 | leethal | and when it exceeds one minute, it appears |
| 04:39.05 | Shikatanai | yeah |
| 04:39.18 | Shikatanai | that way it only appears when its needed |
| 04:43.50 | leethal | hehe, would've been annoying if it'd been there all the time |
| 04:43.58 | leethal | perhaps two minutes too |
| 04:44.03 | leethal | perhaps configurable! hah |
| 04:44.03 | Shikatanai | leethal, when you complete your addon mail it to me for testing or send me a /msg in here illuminarokREMOVE@gmail.com (remove the thing that says remove of course just in case there is an auto logger in here for spam) |
| 04:44.16 | leethal | hmm.. I probably won't remember that |
| 04:44.28 | leethal | it's at curse gaming and wowinterface |
| 04:44.29 | leethal | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6962-AFKTell.html |
| 04:44.35 | Shikatanai | ah cool |
| 04:45.11 | Shikatanai | i just looked at this |
| 04:45.18 | Shikatanai | i was going to download it since it seems useful |
| 04:45.23 | leethal | as of now, it goes "afk for x time" when you return from afk. Adding timer that opens when you go afk first, I'll add the pre-afk stuff later |
| 04:45.24 | Shikatanai | but now i definately will and its bookmarked :) |
| 04:45.53 | Cairenn | if there is an autologger in here for spam, I'll be mightily pissed |
| 04:45.58 | Shikatanai | hehe |
| 04:46.06 | Shikatanai | can never be too careful |
| 04:46.08 | Cairenn | since I run the channel |
| 04:46.13 | Shikatanai | of course |
| 04:46.19 | Shikatanai | but you can never be too careful on the internets ;) |
| 04:46.23 | leethal | ya, I love it myself =D Had it installed after I wrote it, and forgot I had it. After I went afk once, and got the message, I was like "woot, that was usefull" |
| 04:46.33 | Shikatanai | hehe |
| 04:46.47 | Shikatanai | yeah i've always had "away for" info display from IRC since like 1995 |
| 04:46.51 | Shikatanai | and on IM services |
| 04:46.54 | Shikatanai | so this is the same functionality |
| 04:47.39 | Shikatanai | anyone know if theres an addon that gathers the data from the end of BGs to show who the best players are after a certain amount of data mining? |
| 04:50.38 | WobWor1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.51 | Cairenn | technically, you are correct |
| 04:51.09 | WobWor1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.24 | Shikatanai | and since i have avoided spam entirely at my gmail address for the past year and a half, i'm always very careful when handing it out :) |
| 04:51.50 | Shikatanai | the "REMOVE" thing usually does the trick nicely |
| 04:51.58 | Zicon | shikatanai: And that you see no spam has absolutely nothing to do with gmail's built-in spam filter...? |
| 04:52.07 | Shikatanai | well |
| 04:52.18 | Shikatanai | my junk mail box stays empty too |
| 04:52.20 | Shikatanai | so |
| 04:52.30 | Shikatanai | i mean i know certain addresses are entirely banned but |
| 04:52.44 | Shikatanai | other than those that i am oblivious to, i receive no other spam lol |
| 04:56.19 | leethal | I have probably 2000 spam messages in my gmail account |
| 04:56.28 | leethal | they get deleted after 30 days, no? |
| 04:58.41 | Nom- | Anyone tried to 25-man MC yet ? |
| 04:58.55 | Nom- | Thunderfury hasn't been badly nerfed, and our second MT wants one lol |
| 04:59.26 | Nom- | Thunderfury on an undergeared tank still out-aggros blacksmith epic one-hander :/ |
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| 05:04.24 | Iriel | Woohoo, a couple of fights as a warrior with the new aftercast and no 'unexpected event' messages |
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| 05:04.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:05.35 | Guillotine | its amazing how the show "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?" can be so entertaining yet make me wholy lose my faith in humanity at the same time |
| 05:10.06 | WobWor1 | http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/pacmancharthumor.jpg |
| 05:10.44 | Shikatanai | you know blizzard could prevent AFK honor leeching in AV by making the time the server flags you AFK in the tunnel and in frostwolf keep for horde and dun baldar for alliance randomized - between 1 minute and 30 seconds up to the actual AFK timer |
| 05:10.50 | Shikatanai | then only rogues and druids coudl reliably AFK in AV |
| 05:11.08 | WobWor1 | or people can just run out |
| 05:11.11 | WobWor1 | and hide in a corner |
| 05:11.14 | WobWor1 | and afkleech |
| 05:11.15 | Shikatanai | haha well maybe |
| 05:11.27 | WobWor1 | I admit to BGleeching |
| 05:11.30 | WobWor1 | when testing addons =P |
| 05:11.36 | Shikatanai | hehe |
| 05:11.44 | Shikatanai | well the thing is, it would not prevent it entirely |
| 05:11.44 | WobWor1 | I didn't do it for the honour, though =P |
| 05:11.50 | Shikatanai | but the people would have to actually MOVE their char other than jumping |
| 05:11.54 | WobWor1 | The honour was just a nice side effect |
| 05:12.17 | Shikatanai | maybe be forced to fight a lieutenant or two |
| 05:12.22 | Shikatanai | to get to that sweet spot |
| 05:12.23 | Shikatanai | to hide |
| 05:13.02 | Shikatanai | OR make the AFK timer random everywhere except within 50 yards of an enemy objective |
| 05:13.06 | Shikatanai | that way you can camp the flags just fine |
| 05:13.10 | Shikatanai | but not hang out in some corner |
| 05:13.58 | Iriel | Why not just track your position during the fight and analyze whether you DID anything |
| 05:14.01 | Iriel | if yoiu didn't - no honor |
| 05:14.09 | Shikatanai | that too |
| 05:14.31 | Iriel | Though that would penalize a really good group leader who just monitored and gave orders |
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| 05:15.49 | leethal | hm.. how does afk work when you're in flight? |
| 05:15.57 | leethal | the timer starts as soon as you land? |
| 05:16.04 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/guild_rep.php |
| 05:16.05 | Antiarc | :) |
| 05:16.08 | Shikatanai | well |
| 05:16.13 | Shikatanai | the timer works the same as always |
| 05:16.18 | Shikatanai | but it won't flag you AFK until you land |
| 05:16.21 | leethal | from blizzards perspective, I mean |
| 05:16.23 | leethal | ah, I see |
| 05:16.26 | Shikatanai | that way the game won't kick you out until you land |
| 05:16.36 | Shikatanai | on those flights from EPL to booty bay |
| 05:16.41 | leethal | heh, in flight for 30 mins sounds imba |
| 05:17.03 | Shikatanai | since i'm a mage |
| 05:17.09 | Shikatanai | when i need to do something that takes a really long time |
| 05:17.16 | Shikatanai | but i don't wan to lose my conjured items |
| 05:17.20 | Shikatanai | i go to EPL and fly to booty bay |
| 05:17.38 | Shikatanai | that way i get a very long time of being AFK in game plus 15 min on the char select screen |
| 05:20.26 | leethal | bah, no afk mechanics at wowwiki.com/afk |
| 05:20.30 | leethal | I'll have to investigate then |
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| 05:21.12 | leethal | and I bet it differs from EU/US |
| 05:21.30 | Shirik | It probably has random Us put in the EU version |
| 05:21.50 | Shirik | =P |
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| 05:22.18 | Xenok | can someone look at the highlighed comments here: http://wowi.pastey.net/8006 ? |
| 05:22.26 | Xenok | its starting to tick me of |
| 05:22.28 | Xenok | off* |
| 05:22.47 | Shirik | it's local. |
| 05:22.59 | Xenok | ... |
| 05:23.13 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sl0XPvh_bs |
| 05:23.17 | Nom- | That looks like so much fun |
| 05:23.23 | Nom- | Wish it wasn't such an expensive hobby :( |
| 05:23.41 | Shirik | about everyone at my school has that stuff |
| 05:23.44 | Xenok | omg I thought you where talking about planes |
| 05:24.00 | Shirik | it's what I get for going to an aerospace school |
| 05:24.04 | Xenok | I love RC place |
| 05:24.11 | Xenok | planes |
| 05:24.41 | Shirik | it really is fun |
| 05:24.48 | Shirik | I destroyed my first four though |
| 05:25.11 | Xenok | my dad destroyed my only two >< |
| 05:25.21 | Xenok | MUTILATED |
| 05:25.34 | Shikatanai | i was about to say that my uncle had a really expensive one at one time and knows how to fly really well and he tried to teach me how and i almost destroyed it, but he grabbed the RC box and flew it to safety |
| 05:25.39 | Shikatanai | that was the end of my RC flying career |
| 05:25.48 | Shikatanai | now he is hooked on gasoline powered RC cars |
| 05:26.16 | Shirik | rofl "I think I even heard a sonic boom on one of those passes" |
| 05:26.23 | Shirik | If that thing broke the sound barrier it would shatter instantly |
| 05:26.33 | Xenok | lol yeah |
| 05:28.45 | Xenok | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENcIZVx-o9c&mode=related&search= !!!!!! |
| 05:29.17 | Nom- | ok suggestion, Antiarc |
| 05:29.33 | Nom- | keep a database of results and return the already generated results if it's within X hours |
| 05:30.00 | Nom- | Better still, do what I do, and cache player results for 24 hours |
| 05:30.20 | Nom- | That way if a new player joins the guild, you can get his/her details without having to redownload everything |
| 05:30.20 | Antiarc | I may do so |
| 05:30.24 | Shikatanai | i need an addon that stores the End results of any BG in a database of some sort with a viewer app that mimics the end BG screen |
| 05:31.08 | Nom- | for instance, it takes ages to generate all 3 reports for the same guild |
| 05:31.18 | Nom- | and i'm sure blizzard could use the reduced database load |
| 05:31.48 | Xenok | ROFL!! |
| 05:31.49 | Xenok | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMHoaNmnK4o&mode=related&search= |
| 05:31.56 | Antiarc | Yeah, there is plenty of optimization room. |
| 05:32.04 | Antiarc | I cache results in-page, but not across pages. |
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| 05:32.28 | Nom- | Yeah, I built my signature thing around storing the data locally |
| 05:32.40 | Xenok | this is a real plane this time. im sure the pilot was drunk >< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONI7r1Pwhs&mode=related&search= |
| 05:32.46 | Nom- | So I never hit the armory database more than once per 24 hours for the same character |
| 05:34.40 | Xenok | last one.. another drunk b-52 bomber piolt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Y-gtXDP6s&mode=related&search= |
| 05:37.33 | Xenok | can someone look at the highlighed comments here: http://wowi.pastey.net/8006 ? |
| 05:41.13 | Shirik | I already answered you |
| 05:41.28 | Shirik | your problem is the variables are local to the function |
| 05:41.28 | Xenok | yeah.. but I rememoved a couple locals nd nothing happends |
| 05:41.35 | Shirik | uh |
| 05:41.42 | Shirik | then you're doing it wrong and should repost what you have |
| 05:41.45 | Xenok | >< |
| 05:41.47 | Shirik | because that link is exactly what you gave 20 minutes ago |
| 05:42.00 | Xenok | I know |
| 05:42.02 | Xenok | .. |
| 05:42.05 | Xenok | hold on |
| 05:42.47 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/8007 |
| 05:43.46 | Nom- | Yeah, I get the feeling that the second B52 video is slightly more expensive :) |
| 05:44.05 | Xenok | hehe |
| 05:45.19 | Cairenn | :( |
| 05:46.15 | Nom- | That pilot must have been showing off in the second video |
| 05:46.32 | Xenok | the one where he was over the airport? |
| 05:46.38 | Nom- | No way someone with their head in the game would bank a plane that hard, that slow, that low |
| 05:46.46 | Xenok | I know.. drunk |
| 05:47.02 | Nom- | Well the comments seem to indicate he was a showoff |
| 05:47.10 | Nom- | They wouldn't let a drunk into a B52... |
| 05:47.16 | Antiarc | There we go. 6-hour caching, for the time being. |
| 05:47.27 | Cairenn | one of the saddest report findings you'll ever hear - "pilot error" |
| 05:47.41 | Xenok | yeah.. |
| 05:47.49 | Xenok | the worst would be a 747 |
| 05:47.55 | Xenok | pilot error |
| 05:48.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | 747 pilot not found |
| 05:48.44 | Xenok | taht would suck |
| 05:49.18 | bleetah | ok, I got a suggestion for blizz.. when a player sends, say, 5 posts to the trade channel chan in under 20 seconds, containing no links, etc.... |
| 05:49.25 | bleetah | .. the chan gets auto-renamed to 'tirade' |
| 05:49.36 | Xenok | lol |
| 05:49.55 | Xenok | yeah. like those freaking (working in shat or org grand master 375 jewlcrafter and chanter) |
| 05:49.56 | bleetah | just so the inevitable spam of 'get the **** off trade' can then be a reportable offence ;) |
| 05:50.02 | Nom- | err B52 >>>>>>>>> 747 |
| 05:50.04 | Nom- | By a long shot |
| 05:50.21 | Xenok | if it lands in residency |
| 05:50.29 | Xenok | then heck yes it would be |
| 05:51.24 | Nom- | A B52 crashing in a residential area would be worse than a 747 |
| 05:51.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | if there was only a better way to sell enchants |
| 05:51.24 | Nom- | a B52 is bigger in every respect |
| 05:51.24 | Xenok | thats what I ment nom |
| 05:51.24 | Xenok | plus it is a BOMBER |
| 05:51.24 | Xenok | more boom |
| 05:51.31 | Nom- | more fuel, larger wingspan |
| 05:51.35 | Nom- | more engines |
| 05:51.38 | Xenok | yeah |
| 05:51.39 | Cairenn | I think he was referring to passengers when he said 747 being worse |
| 05:51.43 | Xenok | right :D |
| 05:52.01 | Xenok | s/:D/:P/ |
| 05:52.05 | Nom- | Well i dunno |
| 05:52.18 | Nom- | Depends on the location |
| 05:52.22 | Xenok | exactly |
| 05:52.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet a 747 filled to the brim with dynamite, including pilots made out of dynamite, you be pretty destructive |
| 05:52.42 | Xenok | pilots MADE of dynamite? |
| 05:52.47 | bleetah | Mr_Rabies2: yeah, if an enchanter could write a scroll, and sell that on the AH, it'd be great. Side effect, your own enchanter with rare recipe could then apply the enchant to your alts |
| 05:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | also it's fueled from nitro glycerin |
| 05:53.12 | Nom- | an empty B52 (except for fuel) crashing in a densely populated area could concievably cause more casualies due to a larger radius of effect |
| 05:53.24 | Xenok | umm yeah .. |
| 05:54.29 | Xenok | like if a B52 hit the WTC rather than a 747 |
| 05:54.40 | Xenok | it'd be like.. |
| 05:54.42 | Xenok | ouch |
| 05:54.54 | Cairenn | well, this conversation has taken a definite sad turn - I'm heading to bed - night guys |
| 05:55.01 | Xenok | sorry |
| 05:55.18 | MentalPower | night Cair |
| 05:55.35 | Xenok | anyway.. shirik: can you help me? |
| 05:55.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i came up with a ridiculous scenario for a 747 being better what more do you want |
| 05:55.40 | Cairenn|afk | np, I just buried a military pilot friend of mine, so this is hitting kinda close to home is all |
| 05:55.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | aiee :[ |
| 05:55.52 | Xenok | ohh ... |
| 05:55.57 | Xenok | yeah ;( |
| 05:56.02 | Shirik | I will as soon as I figure out why my x server insists on using 36x36 dpi instead of 96x96 |
| 05:56.08 | Xenok | ok |
| 05:56.09 | Shirik | making my text impossible to read |
| 05:56.12 | Sstixrud | anyone know why after opening and closing default world map all my :SetAlpha(x) buttons are set back to 1 |
| 05:56.29 | Sstixrud | In fact this happens after all of the events have fired |
| 05:56.49 | Shirik | do you have something setting it to 1 in OnEvent ? |
| 05:56.58 | Sstixrud | nope |
| 05:57.29 | Sstixrud | I am monitoring all events that trigger and the only event that gets called during/after hitting M and closing it is WORLD_MAP_UPDATED |
| 05:58.16 | Sstixrud | and if I use that event to try and fix the alpha it acts like the problem is post event |
| 05:58.49 | Sstixrud | doesn't happen at all if I use an alternate map addon like metamap |
| 06:03.42 | Iriel | Sstixrud: Opening the world map hides UIParent |
| 06:03.49 | Iriel | Closing it again re-shows it |
| 06:03.54 | Iriel | Do you have the same problem with Alt-Z ? |
| 06:04.27 | Sstixrud | yes |
| 06:04.35 | Sstixrud | any way to detect that event? |
| 06:04.57 | Iriel | Sure, stick a shown child frame on UIParent and use its OnShow/OnHide |
| 06:05.49 | Sstixrud | I can modify UIParent? that seems a bit drastic heh |
| 06:06.16 | Iriel | You dont modify it you just do |
| 06:06.30 | Iriel | local monitorFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) |
| 06:07.40 | Iriel | Any AfterCast users here? |
| 06:08.15 | Sstixrud | how would I use monitorFrame to call a function? |
| 06:08.24 | Sstixrud | would I do it in the xml files or in my lua? |
| 06:08.30 | Iriel | Sstixrud: monitorFrame:SetScript("OnShow", someFunctionToCallOnShow) |
| 06:08.33 | Iriel | etc |
| 06:09.01 | Sstixrud | aww ok thanks :) |
| 06:10.46 | Nom- | Anyone here use LaTeX on a regular basis ? |
| 06:12.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | [condom joke goes here] |
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| 06:13.38 | Xenok | LOL I was thinking something along those lines |
| 06:15.15 | Antiarc | Holy crap on a stick |
| 06:15.25 | Antiarc | My cache is up to 36mb |
| 06:16.04 | Sstixrud | Iriel: I am sure I am doing something silly... but I am getting Usage: <unnamed>:SetScript("type", function) |
| 06:16.15 | Nom- | So i'm guessing noone is a LaTeX user? :( |
| 06:16.24 | Nom- | bleh i'll go ask the perl coders :P |
| 06:16.29 | Sstixrud | I have "monitorFrame:SetScript("OnShow", UB_ButtonReset())" running after my UB_LoadVariables() |
| 06:16.45 | Iriel | But UB_ButtonReset() is a call to the reset function, you want UB_ButtonReset, no ()'s |
| 06:17.17 | Nom- | Iriel: I'll try AfterCast on my pally tonight...I didn't get a chance to do anything with it last night :) |
| 06:17.29 | Nom- | Ended up running BM all night lol |
| 06:18.12 | Iriel | I'm trying to figure out if there'd be any interest in a 'run this code after every successful cast of fireball' feature |
| 06:18.35 | Sstixrud | fixed the error, doesnt seem to work tho |
| 06:18.50 | Iriel | Sstixrud: try adding monitorFrame:Show() |
| 06:18.54 | Sstixrud | aww I need to change it to Hide |
| 06:20.07 | Sstixrud | k will try |
| 06:21.59 | Xenok | lol i got pwnd : http://www.awfulgames.com/games/stickman_assault/ |
| 06:22.48 | Sstixrud | nope |
| 06:22.51 | Sstixrud | no effect |
| 06:24.18 | Iriel | Sstixrud: You may have to use a deferred OnUpdate, it's possible your OnShow gets called before the action button ones, so you try fixing them too early |
| 06:24.28 | Iriel | Sstixrud: Add this... |
| 06:25.05 | Sstixrud | ok I added a :Hide() as well now when I manually /script monitorFrame:Hide() or :Show it updates the buttons |
| 06:25.15 | Sstixrud | but its not triggering automatically by alt Z |
| 06:25.58 | Iriel | function UB_MonitorReset(self) self:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self) self:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil); UB_ButtonReset(); end) end |
| 06:26.14 | Iriel | then monitorFrame:SetScript("OnShow", UB_MonitorReset) |
| 06:26.16 | Fin | does anyone know of an addon for right-click self-casting that *doesn't ever* do anything different (ie, right clicking a button always attempts to use the action on yourself, even if you've got a friendly unit targetted or whatever)? I've tried loads of things, but either some other addon overrides the right-clickage somehow, or the addon itself tries to be nice and guess when I don't really mean it |
| 06:26.41 | Sstixrud | Iriel I got the monitorFrame working, but it does not appear it is being called during an ALT Z event |
| 06:27.05 | Sstixrud | how do I use monitorFrame to detect UIparent? |
| 06:27.18 | Iriel | Sstixrud: pastey your code |
| 06:27.37 | Shirik | Fin: It would be really, really difficult to do something like that |
| 06:27.40 | Shirik | but Clique comes close |
| 06:27.53 | Fin | Shirik: it would? how comes? |
| 06:28.12 | Shirik | because each frame has its own 'attributes' |
| 06:28.18 | Shirik | most addons that create frames set their own attributes |
| 06:28.28 | Shirik | so in fact, it's clique (or whatever) that's overriding other addons, not the other way around |
| 06:28.42 | Fin | well, how does the "right click self-cast" functionality work in existing addons? |
| 06:29.04 | Shirik | because the addons set their attributes to, say, on right click, target becomes "player" |
| 06:29.10 | Sstixrud | http://wowi.pastey.net/8009 lines 21, 251 and 675 |
| 06:29.47 | Fin | right - so there's no way to override that? in the way that Clique might? |
| 06:29.50 | Shirik | Clique tries to override other addons from the way I understand it, forcing right click to always be a self-cast, for example |
| 06:30.04 | Shirik | but it tends to piss off other addons (including mine) that rely on setting those attributes |
| 06:30.11 | Fin | OK, thanks muchly, I'll go look at the code |
| 06:30.29 | Fin | what's your addon, out of curiosity? |
| 06:30.35 | Shirik | http://rdx.emoemu.com |
| 06:30.40 | Fin | ah |
| 06:31.23 | Iriel | Sstixrud: By the way, dont use VARIABLES_LOADED, it's not really necessary |
| 06:31.29 | Iriel | Sstixrud: And where's thenew code I suggested you use? |
| 06:31.42 | Iriel | Sstixrud: Use "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1 == "YourAddonName" |
| 06:31.52 | Sstixrud | I didn't add it, I thought you were saying to do that because I couldnt get the old to work |
| 06:32.33 | Fin | Shirik: cheers for the info |
| 06:32.42 | Shirik | no problem; good luck :) |
| 06:33.01 | Iriel | Sstixrud: I sort of did, but I'mnot sure how you can say that you know it's not being called? Did you put some debug output in or something? |
| 06:34.20 | Sstixrud | my bad it is being called, (just debugged it) |
| 06:34.45 | Sstixrud | so the alpha change is post Show/Hide :| |
| 06:35.01 | Iriel | Which is what my other code was for |
| 06:35.17 | Iriel | The problem is, I suspect, that YOUR Show is being called before blizzard's show |
| 06:35.41 | Sstixrud | I would avoid putting something so shallow in the event path if I could :| |
| 06:36.02 | Iriel | Just use the OnUpdate trick I gave you |
| 06:37.57 | Fin | this Alphablending mod looks nifty |
| 06:38.59 | Sstixrud | that works, when exactly is it called tho? |
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| 06:39.16 | Iriel | before the screen is next repainted |
| 06:39.20 | Sstixrud | doesnt seem to be called cept for when UI is show/hidden |
| 06:39.50 | Iriel | Your new OnShow installs it, it runs once and disables itself |
| 06:40.14 | Sstixrud | cool thanks :) |
| 06:43.44 | Nom- | hmmmmmmmmm |
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| 06:44.15 | Nom- | Anyone know of a VERY easy to use mod for displaying the gear of a guild bank ? |
| 06:44.38 | Nom- | Easy to the point where all you need to do is <click button>, Copy and Paste into a web site |
| 06:45.03 | Shirik | we use notepad |
| 06:45.08 | Nom- | Even an upload of an LUA file is one step too many...need something idiot proof |
| 06:45.10 | Xenok | I do.. but you need a phpbb website with a mod on it |
| 06:45.25 | Nom- | Xenok: That's doable...we've already using phpbb |
| 06:45.35 | Shirik | I dislike phpbb |
| 06:45.36 | Xenok | cool you know how to add phpbb mods to it? |
| 06:45.41 | Shirik | though it is very nice, it has its problems too |
| 06:45.46 | Xenok | easy to hack |
| 06:45.50 | Shirik | I used to write phpbb mods a long time ago ^^ |
| 06:45.52 | Shirik | was fun |
| 06:45.54 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:46.01 | Nom- | Xenok: I can work it out lol |
| 06:46.03 | Xenok | nom hold on |
| 06:46.13 | Shirik | I wrote a really popular one, it modified the way you log in to provide extra security |
| 06:46.28 | Xenok | what one? I might know it |
| 06:46.29 | Nom- | http://www.awfulgames.com/games/stickman_assault/ |
| 06:46.31 | Nom- | mt |
| 06:46.37 | Shirik | I know that game! |
| 06:46.38 | Xenok | lol you where playing that nom? |
| 06:46.39 | Nom- | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/2320/phpbb-item-xporter-item2phpbb/ <-- that one ? |
| 06:46.48 | Xenok | don't do it from curse |
| 06:46.55 | Xenok | but yes |
| 06:47.22 | Xenok | hold on |
| 06:48.09 | Xenok | change the language.. but my guild uses it: http://itemstats.free.fr/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.11 |
| 06:48.25 | Nom- | hmm im really after something that handles the transactions too |
| 06:48.32 | Xenok | ahhh I might know one |
| 06:49.06 | Xenok | link in a min |
| 06:49.32 | Xenok | oh wait... lost it .. hold on |
| 06:50.50 | Xenok | hmm |
| 06:50.53 | Nom- | It needs to be pretty simple...like click a button to export this session (or since last export) and paste it to a bulk insert page |
| 06:50.59 | Nom- | I might have to do something custom I guess |
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| 06:51.03 | Xenok | wait wait |
| 06:51.54 | Xenok | ohh I thought i had it somwhere |
| 06:51.58 | Xenok | T_T |
| 06:52.07 | Xenok | well I know an alt route |
| 06:52.18 | Fin | is UniUploader too difficult to set up? |
| 06:52.54 | Xenok | .. was just about to suggest that |
| 06:53.08 | Xenok | http://wowroster.net/Downloads/details/id=13.html |
| 06:53.58 | Xenok | youll need this too: http://wowroster.net/Downloads/details/id=16.html |
| 06:54.02 | Xenok | but I have to go. night all |
| 06:54.34 | Nom- | cool i'll check it out |
| 06:55.17 | Fin | it's not what you were looking for, but if you can get it set up, everything happens automatically |
| 07:05.21 | Tem | geez |
| 07:05.21 | Tem | a rare mob that runs around stealthed |
| 07:05.48 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:05.49 | Nom- | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic |
| 07:06.42 | Tem | lol easy kill |
| 07:09.31 | Nom- | http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145356 |
| 07:17.57 | bleetah | purl, poke Esamynn |
| 07:18.03 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Esamynn, pokes Esamynn repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 07:19.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | dark portal and botanica are impossible to get groups for on my server :/ |
| 07:19.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | l2 use the lfg tool, noobs :[ |
| 07:20.04 | Kolth | Blizzard's LFG tool sucks so much. |
| 07:20.14 | Kolth | Why can't they just copy people like they usually do? |
| 07:20.18 | subbawt | i've done so many pug botanicas |
| 07:22.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | the lfg tool only sucks cause no one uses it |
| 07:22.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and no one uses it because no one uses it |
| 07:22.09 | Corrodias | it's true that the lfg tool sucks. you have to work hard to make it even somewhat useful |
| 07:22.29 | Corrodias | we tried to use the lfg tool on my realm when it first came out |
| 07:22.37 | Corrodias | but we gradually quit because it just didn't help us |
| 07:22.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've never had problems with making it useful, assuming people use it properly and don't just set 3 instances to autoinvite/autojoin and go doing hatever |
| 07:22.46 | Corrodias | you can only lfg for 3 specific things and they have to be around your level |
| 07:22.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | whatever |
| 07:22.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | my w key is acting up |
| 07:22.56 | Corrodias | and they have to be specific quests of dungeons... so irritating |
| 07:22.59 | Corrodias | *or |
| 07:23.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr, i just go to lfm and swap between instances every 15 mins or so |
| 07:24.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | while lfg for the 3 i want to go to most |
| 07:24.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | swap to lfm, scroll through the instances, and see |
| 07:24.45 | Corrodias | you can make it work, yeah |
| 07:24.51 | Corrodias | but i can't wait for the next new system |
| 07:25.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're just improving the current system |
| 07:25.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | which, yeah, it needs work, but it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be |
| 07:25.53 | Nom- | not enough people use it imho |
| 07:26.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's really the only problem with it |
| 07:26.12 | Nom- | There's *always* people LFG instances, but they spam general and trade instead of using LFG |
| 07:26.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | if more people would learn how to use it properly it would be great |
| 07:26.38 | Nom- | plus, so be honest, some groups want to screen applicants before inviting them too |
| 07:26.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can |
| 07:26.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | use the lfm thing |
| 07:26.57 | Nom- | Yeah, but it's still a PITA |
| 07:27.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | autojoin and autoinvite are for lazy people |
| 07:27.05 | Corrodias | i could use it to LFG for some of the most common things: instances around my level and a couple of group quests |
| 07:27.07 | Corrodias | but nothing else :( |
| 07:27.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | what else would you lfg for? |
| 07:27.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | instances and group quests are all i can think of |
| 07:27.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, maybe semi-pug bgs/arenas |
| 07:27.46 | Corrodias | non-group quests that are difficult anyway, instances that aren't listed |
| 07:27.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | that does need to be added |
| 07:27.58 | Nom- | I got into a PUG MC just before BC came out using LFG :P |
| 07:27.58 | Corrodias | and more than 3 things whatever they may be |
| 07:27.59 | MentalPower | gnight folks |
| 07:28.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've yet to run into a tough nongroup quest :p |
| 07:28.11 | Nom- | We were going so well until all the good players started leaving :( |
| 07:28.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i solo'd a decent amount of group quests too |
| 07:28.30 | Corrodias | you're a feral druid |
| 07:28.33 | Nom- | we cleared the first 2 bosses and got to the third before any repops |
| 07:28.36 | Nom- | That's damn quick |
| 07:28.40 | Corrodias | a combat-heavy build |
| 07:29.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's not a class in the game not capable of soloing every nongroup quest in the game unless they're too stubborn to respec |
| 07:29.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 07:29.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | remove one of those "in the games" for more clarity |
| 07:29.45 | Corrodias | oh yeah |
| 07:29.51 | Nom- | lol |
| 07:29.56 | Corrodias | it's my stubbornness that might make me want to choose a spec that's helpful to my guild |
| 07:30.00 | Corrodias | it doesn't have anything to do with team mentality |
| 07:30.03 | Nom- | You can solo any non-group quest in just about any spec |
| 07:30.12 | Nom- | The difference is how quickly and efficiently you can do it |
| 07:30.15 | Corrodias | fine. you're righ.t |
| 07:30.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can't expect solo effectiveness if you're going for the group mentality |
| 07:30.31 | Corrodias | "most players probably won't want to do it, so we'll make it impossible" |
| 07:30.35 | Corrodias | screw it. you win. |
| 07:31.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you like grouping, you can definitely level in instances |
| 07:32.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | but resto/holy/prot war were never designed with efficient soloing in mind |
| 07:32.35 | Corrodias | look, i can't expect any WoW player to understand another person. it's okay. |
| 07:33.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe i'm just jaded |
| 07:33.17 | Corrodias | of course there are no prot warriors who ever want to do quests |
| 07:33.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | sure there are, they can do them |
| 07:33.31 | Outlaw| | Our MT grinded from 60 -> 70 with full prot, and he did it fairly quickly actually :p |
| 07:33.42 | Corrodias | yeah? with a respec? |
| 07:34.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but don't expect to be one of the best group roles AND a great soloer at the same time |
| 07:34.03 | Shadowed | no, as in he did 60 -> 70 as full protection spec |
| 07:34.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's entirely possible, just not very efficient |
| 07:34.19 | Corrodias | i never suggested that i expect both |
| 07:34.30 | Corrodias | allow me to remind you of the context of this conversation |
| 07:34.39 | Corrodias | this is about the lfg tool, and why it's impossible to use it to find groups for solo quests |
| 07:35.06 | Corrodias | you say it's because people should respec for them, i think |
| 07:35.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | most people don't really care to find groups for them, though i have done a decent amount of grouping for them |
| 07:35.12 | Shadowed | Takes to long to find a group vs how long it takes to do a quest, most group quests only need an extra 1-2 people and you can typically find friends for it. |
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| 07:35.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | not for difficulty |
| 07:35.27 | Shadowed | where as a 5 man takes 45-80+ minutes |
| 07:35.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | but so instead of competing and taking forever to wait on spawns |
| 07:35.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | we can group and kill a 10 min solo quest in 3 mins |
| 07:35.55 | Shadowed | XP and loot |
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| 07:36.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the thing about solo quests is, most people that want to do them are in the zone, so /1's always gonna be the best choice for that |
| 07:36.36 | Shadowed | I rather solo quests when possible because it's better XP, and if a blue/epic/whatever dorps I don't have to roll with others on it. |
| 07:36.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not worth going from zone to zone for a simple solo quest |
| 07:37.10 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 07:37.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 07:37.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're killing things faster |
| 07:37.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you're getting more exp/hr |
| 07:37.36 | Corrodias | my druid is already level 70 |
| 07:37.44 | Corrodias | i still have uncompleted quests you know |
| 07:37.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know |
| 07:37.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't understand what you're saying |
| 07:37.57 | Shikatanai | I have a level 70 blood elf mage and a level 70 night elf druid ;p |
| 07:38.01 | Shadowed | Depends how fast you're killing them |
| 07:38.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't understand your point corr |
| 07:38.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just saying that most people don't WANT to group for solo quests unless there's a ton of people in the area camping spawns |
| 07:38.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | in which case you can just use /y or /s or /1 to get more |
| 07:38.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and killsteal those who don't want to group :D |
| 07:38.59 | Corrodias | maybe i am just stressed today |
| 07:39.02 | Corrodias | very stressed |
| 07:39.03 | Shadowed | Using /y is more likely to annoy people then do anything |
| 07:39.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | sounds like it |
| 07:39.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're a lot more aggressive than usual :X |
| 07:39.13 | Corrodias | sick of not having a fucking instance run for weeks |
| 07:39.29 | Corrodias | that's an exaggeration, of course |
| 07:39.50 | Corrodias | there have been a few pugs, and some charity "get these poor guys their key but don't do any quests or bosses" runs by guildmates who already have keys |
| 07:39.53 | Shikatanai | i gave up on instances a long time ago |
| 07:39.57 | Shikatanai | now i just run bg and do arenas |
| 07:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | calm down killa |
| 07:40.55 | Shadowed | Depends on your guild in general, if you're the last person to reach 70 or your play time is a lot less then them, then yeah you're going to have trouble getting stuff done |
| 07:41.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm unguilded and i don't really have a problem finding a group when i want |
| 07:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | except botanica and dark portal |
| 07:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 07:41.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason those places are ghost towns |
| 07:41.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | too difficult for pugs maybe? |
| 07:41.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 07:41.39 | Shadowed | I'd rather not do BM with pugs |
| 07:41.42 | Shikatanai | i constantly get invited to dark portal and botanica but i don't do instances so i turn them down that and i haven't done durnholde yet |
| 07:41.48 | Shadowed | Shikatanai what class? |
| 07:41.52 | Shikatanai | mage and druid |
| 07:41.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i pugged arcatraz a couple days ago |
| 07:42.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | was easy and fun |
| 07:42.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | couple minor issues |
| 07:42.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | but once we got "in the groove" we kicked that place's ass |
| 07:43.12 | Shadowed | hate hate hate arcatraz, but haven't done it since 2.0.10 |
| 07:43.18 | Shadowed | pain to tank |
| 07:43.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | on which class |
| 07:44.02 | Corrodias | if i could get into any instances i could actually USE, i'd be a little less irritated right now |
| 07:44.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | wasn't too bad for me, lost aggro here and there on trash, but no biggie |
| 07:44.14 | Shadowed | Warrior |
| 07:44.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's the problem corr? low pop server? |
| 07:44.28 | Shadowed | but we didn't really have much of an AE class |
| 07:44.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 07:44.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a druid, i lost aggro on bleed immune stuff here and there but otherwise not too bad |
| 07:44.56 | Corrodias | not really. blizzard threatened to split up the realm a while back. |
| 07:45.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 07:45.09 | Corrodias | although maybe a bunch of people did jump ship |
| 07:45.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | what server again |
| 07:45.46 | Corrodias | but for example, we have just over 100 accounts in our guild |
| 07:45.46 | Corrodias | eldre'thalas |
| 07:45.46 | Shadowed | friends makes TBC easier |
| 07:45.46 | Shadowed | with the same play time and such |
| 07:45.54 | Corrodias | but it just about -never- happens that there are more than 2 instances runs TOTAL in a single day |
| 07:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've pretty much pugged everything |
| 07:46.17 | Corrodias | you constantly get 3 or 4 people who want to do something, and/or having no tank or healer |
| 07:46.22 | Shikatanai | i've noticed that large guilds tend to do worse than smaller guilds in tbc content |
| 07:46.28 | Corrodias | lots of instances with people all wanting to do different things |
| 07:46.46 | Shadowed | Depends what your class is |
| 07:46.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | sounds like you're in a guild of individuals |
| 07:47.03 | Shadowed | healer was hard to find sometimes, DPS was easy and othertimes 6 healers wanted to go but no DPS |
| 07:47.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | a pug guild, more or less |
| 07:47.21 | Corrodias | yeah, see, we're hte kind of people who don't use the lfg tool to find groups for solo quests, we just do them. ;) |
| 07:47.21 | Shikatanai | yeah thats what large guilds are like |
| 07:47.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're very common |
| 07:47.44 | Shikatanai | there's a main clique that *always* goes on all the instances 5 or 6 people in 10 mans 2-3 of them in the 5 mans |
| 07:47.47 | subbawt | we only have ~50 accounts in our guild |
| 07:47.48 | Shikatanai | the rest of the people are just fill ins |
| 07:47.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why i haven't bothered finding a guild yet, it's not much different than pugging |
| 07:48.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | agh, those are worse than the pug guilds, Shikatanai |
| 07:48.18 | Corrodias | actualy, there aren't usually a lot more than 20 people in the guild online at once |
| 07:48.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | jealousy tears the guild up pretty fast :p |
| 07:48.27 | Shikatanai | yea |
| 07:48.42 | Corrodias | we've had a couple of people quit or almost quit because of just that |
| 07:48.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 07:49.04 | Corrodias | there were 6 people who powered their way to their karazhan keys |
| 07:49.07 | Shikatanai | i'm in a guild with like 8 people and well.. my friend and i joined when our blood elves were level 28 and now we're 70 and everyone else is in their 30s and 40s, so... can't really do anything, but they don't bother us to "run them through" anything either so we stick around |
| 07:49.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all too common |
| 07:49.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | people almost never talk in guild chat |
| 07:49.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | except for |
| 07:49.21 | Corrodias | now they come back and look at what people want to do and it's all over the place because we couldn't get them to do anything before |
| 07:49.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | "hay guys run me through x" |
| 07:49.30 | Corrodias | ALL THE TANKS for exampe |
| 07:49.32 | Corrodias | *example |
| 07:50.06 | Nom- | I'm so tired lol |
| 07:50.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and "guys why won't you run me through x /gquit" |
| 07:50.06 | Corrodias | it's... really quite annoying when most (okay, not all) of your tanks are off doing their own thing |
| 07:50.53 | Corrodias | i've offered to join every instance suggestion that people bring up, even things that don't have any relevance to me. some days i still don't do anything, although today i did one run through sethekk halls. |
| 07:51.07 | Corrodias | brb |
| 07:51.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually run one or two instances a day |
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| 07:51.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | some good some bad |
| 07:51.22 | Nom- | Corrodias: You need to find a better/bigger guild :) |
| 07:51.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | my last durnholde group was strange |
| 07:51.34 | Nom- | I've got people waiting to run instances when I get home |
| 07:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | they were mostly terrible at their class, yet we managed to get to epoch hunter |
| 07:51.47 | Nom- | As soon as I hop on vent it's like "Nom's on...let's hit Steamvaults" |
| 07:53.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss my guild like that |
| 07:53.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was in a great 5man/ubrs level guild for a while |
| 07:53.55 | Shadowed | I wish people wouldn't ask me to do instances all the time :p |
| 07:54.03 | subbawt | same |
| 07:54.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | lol |
| 07:54.05 | Nom- | yeah, i've made a good choice I think |
| 07:54.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember those days when i felt like the only druid |
| 07:54.15 | Shadowed | only so many times I can tank instance X before I get bored of it |
| 07:54.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that wasn't resto |
| 07:54.21 | Nom- | out guild kinda slotted themselves into 3 x 25-man raid charters |
| 07:54.34 | Shadowed | or some of the ones I really hate like SH which i stopped after hitting revered |
| 07:54.35 | Nom- | my charter has broken off and actually rolled a new guild |
| 07:54.46 | Shadowed | Nom- that didn't work so well I take it |
| 07:54.52 | Nom- | Karazhan is Thursday and Sunday...every other night is instnace runs |
| 07:55.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i realy want to run kara |
| 07:55.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i can't find a damn group for dark portal |
| 07:55.19 | Nom- | I tried to run it last night with a PUG |
| 07:55.29 | Nom- | We got up to the last boss 3 times and wiped wthin the first minute |
| 07:55.37 | Nom- | FoLspam no good when you keep getting time stopped |
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| 07:55.57 | Shadowed | I learned you could reflect time stop, but it doesn't stun him :( |
| 07:56.31 | subbawt | our schedule is tuesday thursday friday for karazhan, and saturday and monday for gruul's lair |
| 07:56.32 | Nom- | Yeah, that's fine for the tank |
| 07:56.39 | Nom- | But no good for the FoLspammer (me) |
| 07:56.47 | subbawt | we haven't had the attendance for a 25 man lately |
| 07:57.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm running out of solo content though |
| 07:57.13 | Nom- | Yeah...we're waiting for a whiel before hitting Gruul's lair |
| 07:57.13 | Shadowed | Not sure why you had issues with FoL, isn't that your 1.5 second heal? |
| 07:57.21 | Nom- | Some of our guild has a life |
| 07:57.36 | Nom- | And can't run instances for 6 hours ever night and 14 hours on the weekend :P |
| 07:57.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've purposely avoided netherstorm because i don't want to be like "welp, now i have to instance" |
| 07:57.52 | Shadowed | Sure you can |
| 07:57.56 | Shadowed | thats why i stopped liking them :p |
| 07:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i don't have many other options than instancing and soloing |
| 07:58.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | bgs have long queues and arenas get boring fast |
| 07:58.49 | Nom- | I bypassed all of Netherstorm |
| 07:58.55 | Nom- | I hit it last night for my new healing pants tho |
| 07:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | so have i so far |
| 07:59.22 | Corrodias | our schedule... we just had our first kara try tonight |
| 07:59.51 | Shadowed | I don't know why people didn't like Netherstorm, was easy XP/gold I did SMV after hitting 70 for extra gold |
| 07:59.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like it |
| 07:59.58 | Shadowed | s/didn't/don't |
| 08:00.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just bypassed it temporarily |
| 08:00.09 | Corrodias | even if we hadn't, i hightly doubt i would have managed to get 4 other people together for the botanica |
| 08:00.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause some quest sent me to shadowmoon |
| 08:00.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i like to totally finish off zones before moving on |
| 08:00.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and netherstorm's all i have left of solo stuff :[ |
| 08:00.50 | Shadowed | the only zone I truly hated was BEM |
| 08:00.58 | Corrodias | i apologize for being so... aggressive |
| 08:01.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah it's cool |
| 08:01.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get feisty sometimes too |
| 08:01.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | specifically when we get nerfed :p |
| 08:01.23 | Corrodias | there are a lot of bad feelings floating around under the surface of our guild, and i'm starting to fester |
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| 08:01.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it's not enjoyable, go freelance for a while |
| 08:02.18 | Corrodias | well, then i'd never get an instance |
| 08:02.24 | Corrodias | i need to use that lfg tool more |
| 08:02.34 | Shirik | haha |
| 08:02.34 | Shadowed | Make friends that play the same time you do |
| 08:02.37 | Shirik | you called it a "tool" |
| 08:02.40 | Shirik | like it's useful |
| 08:02.48 | Nom- | Yeah, I bypassed Netherstorm because SMV = better rewards |
| 08:02.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | it would be if more people used it :[ |
| 08:02.56 | Corrodias | i call you a tool for the same reason |
| 08:03.05 | Shirik | cause I'm useful? |
| 08:03.11 | Shirik | thanks :D |
| 08:03.23 | Nom- | Also, because I was level 69 and only just started questing in Blades edge lol |
| 08:03.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha |
| 08:03.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i started at 68 |
| 08:03.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i told myself |
| 08:03.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not going to that hellhole until i can fly |
| 08:03.48 | subbawt | wow has been crashing a lot for me lately, this is weird |
| 08:03.57 | subbawt | i think i might have some bad RAM |
| 08:03.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | repair tool? |
| 08:04.18 | Shirik | any error when it crashes? |
| 08:04.27 | Shirik | or just CTD? |
| 08:04.35 | Shirik | or BSOD? |
| 08:04.35 | subbawt | CTD? |
| 08:04.40 | Shirik | crash to desktop |
| 08:04.46 | Shirik | no error, just window closes |
| 08:04.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine almost never crashes, it would get weird video lag until i rolled back my drivers though |
| 08:04.53 | subbawt | i get an access violation error |
| 08:05.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | try the repair tool, subbawt |
| 08:05.17 | Nom- | Mine doesn't crash at all... :P |
| 08:05.17 | subbawt | instruction at [memory location] attempted to access [memory address] |
| 08:05.19 | Shirik | access violation indicates that the program attempted to access memory which it doesn't have access to; typically this is a programmer error (i.e., repair tool would be agood idea) |
| 08:05.24 | subbawt | or something |
| 08:05.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | if that doesn't work and you're on broadband, dl the burning crusade client, back up your screenshots, wtf, and addons, and reinstall the game all at once |
| 08:06.17 | Shirik | typically bad memory won't cause an access violation (though with indexed addressing modes, it's very possible, so it's a consideration still) |
| 08:06.27 | Shirik | indirect indexed* |
| 08:06.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | bad memory generally will just bluescreen you |
| 08:06.51 | subbawt | i don't want it to delete my WTF folder :( |
| 08:06.56 | subbawt | or my interface folder |
| 08:06.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | back it up |
| 08:07.03 | Shirik | yup, it's more likely to cause a paging fault or a kernel error than it is to create a single application error; but it's still possible |
| 08:07.07 | Shirik | (course, just about anything is possible) |
| 08:07.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | copy them to your desktop temporarily |
| 08:07.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | and your screenshots too |
| 08:07.34 | subbawt | i dont care about my screenshots |
| 08:07.41 | Corrodias | too bad |
| 08:07.46 | Corrodias | you're going to back them up anyway |
| 08:07.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do, i've got ones from 2004 in there :p |
| 08:07.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell, i have some from beta still |
| 08:07.58 | Corrodias | just think about it: |
| 08:08.13 | Corrodias | if you don't care about screenshots, maybe you could do everything ELSE, but just not back up the screenshots! |
| 08:08.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend's screenshot folder was 4 gigabytes like a year ago |
| 08:08.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | until i showed him convertshots.exe |
| 08:08.39 | Nom- | keke |
| 08:08.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was a bit of a perv early on |
| 08:08.59 | Nom- | Lots of naked gnomes ? |
| 08:09.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | humans and night elves |
| 08:09.45 | Nom- | Having a gnome is like having a kitten |
| 08:09.49 | Nom- | They're so cute and cuddly |
| 08:09.52 | Corrodias | i have... 953 screenshots |
| 08:09.53 | subbawt | i love gnomes :P |
| 08:10.05 | Nom- | damnit |
| 08:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | he also had some furry porn hidden in his wow folder to frighten anyone who copied his install |
| 08:10.08 | Corrodias | many of them are not converted yet, so it's 3.9gb |
| 08:10.19 | subbawt | there's one on my server named tyny that i always /hug |
| 08:10.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | hey whats this folder i don't remember this being OH GOD DRAWN ARMADILLO SEX |
| 08:10.31 | Nom- | what was that comic with the gnome rogue who is a chinese farmer ? |
| 08:10.38 | subbawt | Tyny the Gnome :} |
| 08:10.39 | Nom- | I forgot to bookmark it i think |
| 08:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was uh |
| 08:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | that gamespy thing |
| 08:10.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | the gnome was named lowping, i remember that |
| 08:10.53 | Corrodias | Nom-: flintlocke's guide to azeroth |
| 08:10.59 | Nom- | That's the one, thanks Corrodias |
| 08:11.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah thats it |
| 08:11.10 | Corrodias | thank you for giving me all the credit |
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| 08:11.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoaaa |
| 08:11.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | flintlocke's guide is drawn now |
| 08:11.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
| 08:12.25 | Corrodias | my next target is... axtroz |
| 08:12.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | funny |
| 08:12.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | my next target is YOUR MOM |
| 08:12.42 | Corrodias | i'm doing the onyxia key chain because of the whole instance dearth |
| 08:13.04 | Corrodias | soon i'll just have to play alts :/ |
| 08:14.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's hard to find a guild on my server that wants a druid that doesn't like being told what to do :x |
| 08:14.47 | Corrodias | arr |
| 08:14.56 | Corrodias | ours is pretty open about letting people fill what role they want |
| 08:15.05 | Corrodias | i just wish we had more people, or something -.- |
| 08:16.36 | Nom- | That's the best wow comic i've ever read lol |
| 08:17.00 | Nom- | I read the entire thing one slow afternoon @ work lol |
| 08:17.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | there was a guild on my server for a while called <The Anti-Guild Coalition> or something along those lines |
| 08:17.48 | Corrodias | we've one named <Guildless> |
| 08:17.57 | Corrodias | small-time of course |
| 08:18.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | Dev : Our nerfs will block out the sun! |
| 08:18.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | Druid : Then we will tank in the shade. |
| 08:18.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | why does this make me laugh so much |
| 08:19.23 | Nom- | It makes me laugh every time I read about the reason pallly heals cause so little threat |
| 08:20.26 | Nom- | I've been main healing a tank through an entire boss fight, and have less threat on the boss than the priest who just cast SW:P and then worked on adds |
| 08:20.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah they nerfed pally threat back in the day because they were basically raid bosses |
| 08:21.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | best tanks, best dps, best healers |
| 08:21.20 | Nom- | now they're the lowest threat healers and longest lastging |
| 08:21.22 | Nom- | reasonable tanks |
| 08:21.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | pally could solo a 5man group of undead players himself |
| 08:21.31 | Nom- | and against undead/demons, have pretty damn good dps |
| 08:21.41 | Nom- | Mr_Rabies2: They still can... |
| 08:22.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | pallies can solo 5man groups? :O |
| 08:22.18 | Nom- | Paladin DPS vs Undead is insane |
| 08:22.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | nonono |
| 08:22.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | undead PLAYERS |
| 08:22.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | not mobs |
| 08:22.31 | Nom- | ahhh righto |
| 08:22.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | forsaken used to be considered undead |
| 08:22.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | so holy wrath, exorcism, turn undead worked on them |
| 08:22.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 08:23.00 | Nom- | Yeah, with Holy Wrath and Exorcism, your dps is INSANE |
| 08:23.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | except they were immune to fear, iirc, so no turn undead technically |
| 08:23.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | immune to fear/charm, infinite breath underwater |
| 08:23.45 | Nom- | Nah, you can fear undead, but they get a 2 min cooldown skill which clears fears and makes you immune for 5 seconds |
| 08:23.54 | Nom- | and it's not infinite, it's 3x normal |
| 08:23.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | not anymore |
| 08:23.59 | *** join/#wowi-lounge AbraCadav (n=abercada@adsl-71-146-152-19.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 08:23.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 08:24.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | not then |
| 08:24.04 | Nom- | ah righto |
| 08:24.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | wotf was permanent and passive iirc |
| 08:24.18 | Nom- | omg nerf! :P |
| 08:24.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and waterbreathing was full non-breath |
| 08:24.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they got completely WRECKED by paladins |
| 08:24.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing could kill undead players but paladins |
| 08:24.44 | AbraCadav | anyone happen to have a halo for the pc cd? |
| 08:25.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | and paladins could solo full groups of undead, 2 or 3 players at once, otherwise |
| 08:25.15 | Corrodias | yeah, slightly unbalanced |
| 08:25.18 | Corrodias | what about... UNDEAD PALADINS |
| 08:25.24 | Nom- | against the right mix of classes, paladins can still do pretty damn good |
| 08:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh definitely |
| 08:25.41 | Corrodias | really? |
| 08:25.45 | Nom- | Paladin vs 2 x Warrior is a pretty tought fight for the warriors |
| 08:25.48 | Corrodias | so far i haven't been impressed by the paladins i've met in pvp |
| 08:26.01 | dieck | Horde Undead are not "undead", but "humanoid" ingame |
| 08:26.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they were bar none the best class in the game before undead were humanoid and they were nerfed pretty hard |
| 08:26.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | now they are dieck |
| 08:26.13 | dieck | e.g. a priest can't shakle them? |
| 08:26.16 | dieck | ooooh |
| 08:26.18 | dieck | now they are? |
| 08:26.20 | Shadowed | 2 Warriors should be able to beat a Paladin pretty easly |
| 08:26.21 | Corrodias | now they are what? |
| 08:26.29 | Corrodias | oh, dieck is a person |
| 08:26.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | but beta/early release maybe they were undead |
| 08:26.33 | AbraCadav | anyone got halo? |
| 08:26.36 | Shadowed | as long as they don't pummel at the same time |
| 08:26.39 | Nom- | Shadowed: Not really, it's a tough fight |
| 08:26.49 | Nom- | Shadowed: Paladin can heal and has same mitigation to damage as warrior |
| 08:26.56 | SunTiger | http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/Ugrash/Gnomesicle.jpg |
| 08:27.03 | Corrodias | and magic damage ignores armor |
| 08:27.03 | Shadowed | what they can heal doesn't matter much if MS is kept up and if they're being stunned/interrupted/feared |
| 08:27.04 | Nom- | plus with the stuns and nukes, as long as the pally doesn't run oom, the warriors will have a lot of trouble |
| 08:27.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the worst mspaint i've seen in the history of windows, suntiger |
| 08:27.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 08:27.24 | AbraCadav | i just need to know the cd name for the halo cd, if anyone happens to have it |
| 08:27.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i lost mine years ago |
| 08:27.40 | Shadowed | they (usually) aren't going to be able to do enough damage while being able to heal well and not run OOM |
| 08:27.55 | SunTiger | mr_Rabies , you don't like the gnomesicles ? |
| 08:28.05 | Corrodias | with a paladin against a balance/restoration druid, it's a mana fight |
| 08:28.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | the concept is hilarious :p |
| 08:28.22 | AbraCadav | i did to, but i made a backup iso but named it the default "NEW" title |
| 08:28.42 | AbraCadav | i need a break from wow |
| 08:28.54 | Corrodias | so take one |
| 08:29.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine was a ..backup iso too <_< |
| 08:29.06 | dieck | AbraCadav: if you had search for *.iso you would have found it by now :) |
| 08:29.14 | AbraCadav | i will, want to try getting back into other games |
| 08:29.21 | Corrodias | i was going to think about buying a Riding Crop, but it's stupidly expensive compared to just getting the other 3 things that do almost the same thing |
| 08:29.30 | Nom- | Shadowed: Stun one, nule the crap out of the other, bubble, hit each of them when they bandage, and heal up then go nuts again |
| 08:29.35 | Nom- | s/nule/nuke/ |
| 08:30.05 | Corrodias | six arcane dust cost more than i am willing to spend on the whole thing |
| 08:30.39 | Nom- | ok i'm getting out of here |
| 08:30.39 | dieck | Corrodias: people are paying some hundred gold for a 20 bag, instead of 18. So why not pay 100g for a riding crop instead of 3 items, and gain 2 bag slots this way? |
| 08:30.49 | Nom- | I'm out of stuff to work on and it's 5:30pm on Friday :D |
| 08:30.53 | Nom- | bbs going home :) |
| 08:30.58 | Corrodias | because i don't pay 100g for two extra inventory slots either |
| 08:31.08 | Corrodias | i don't have all kinds of money |
| 08:31.15 | Corrodias | i don't know where these assholes get so rich |
| 08:31.25 | dieck | you just need gold, forget about silver or copper :) |
| 08:31.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm such a penny pincher in wow |
| 08:31.31 | Shadowed | Nom-: I have yet seen a Paladin that could pull that off :p |
| 08:31.37 | Corrodias | what? what does silver have to do with anything? |
| 08:31.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haggle like mad |
| 08:32.12 | Shadowed | And nuking wont do you much good if you have to heal yourself, so you're either in healing gear meaning you wont be able to nuke for that much, or damage gear in which case your mana wont last as long |
| 08:32.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and gouge people for enchants that i know as jerks or twinks |
| 08:32.25 | Corrodias | i'm still a few hundred from even having the cash for the epic flying -skill-, not even a mount, and i have not bought significant amount of containers or any enchantments |
| 08:32.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i price gouge twinks like mad |
| 08:32.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still a couple of THOUSAND gold away corr |
| 08:32.49 | Shadowed | Corrodias: Mounts are like 9g |
| 08:32.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | 200g |
| 08:32.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | for epic flying |
| 08:32.56 | Corrodias | ...200. |
| 08:33.05 | Shadowed | 200g isn't that bad either! |
| 08:33.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a big difference from 8 :p |
| 08:33.15 | Corrodias | no, but 5000g is! |
| 08:33.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | er 9 |
| 08:33.26 | Shadowed | 8, 9, 200. Same thing! |
| 08:33.41 | subbawt | does anyone know what the command /console uifaster 1 does? |
| 08:33.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got about 20 stacks of arcane dust |
| 08:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i could sell that now and get my mount |
| 08:33.57 | Corrodias | are you an enchanter? |
| 08:33.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | but in the long run, i'll be hurting myself |
| 08:34.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 08:34.09 | Corrodias | maybe that's my mistake. maybe everyone's supposed to get enchanting. |
| 08:34.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 08:34.19 | Corrodias | disenchant all those greens we get |
| 08:34.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd have more gold right now if i wasn't |
| 08:34.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i disenchanted all my greens instead of vendoring then |
| 08:34.32 | Corrodias | because i don't know how the fuck i'd ever afford one of the higher enchantments |
| 08:34.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | them* |
| 08:35.05 | Corrodias | even getting one that takes 8 Large Prismatic Shards would be a serious hit to my bank, and then i'd replace the item within a month anyway |
| 08:35.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't buy enchants until you get epic flying one way or another |
| 08:35.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | penny pinch like a mofo like i do |
| 08:35.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd have well over 5000 by now though |
| 08:36.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i vendored all my greens |
| 08:36.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | or sold my dust |
| 08:36.08 | Corrodias | i never got any enchantments before the expansion, except +skinning and +mount speed |
| 08:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i need that stuff to sell enchants |
| 08:36.16 | Corrodias | and what people offered to me free so they could level up |
| 08:36.31 | Corrodias | i can't imagine i'll be getting any after the expansion, except maybe the relatively cheap +30 int. |
| 08:37.13 | Corrodias | skinning was providing me a moderate income with clefthoof leather, but people stopped buying them a couple of days ago |
| 08:37.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not worth enchanting stuff if you're not an enchanter until you have some of the top 5 gear for that role |
| 08:37.53 | Corrodias | but anyway, riding crop? total waste of money. i'd rather fill 2 inventory slots than spend 140g. |
| 08:37.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is pretty easy to obtain for tanking |
| 08:38.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | well yeah |
| 08:38.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but imagine on new servers |
| 08:38.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | where no one will run zf |
| 08:38.20 | Corrodias | now i need some jewels |
| 08:38.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | or bother farming for the mount speed enchant |
| 08:38.43 | Corrodias | decent ones will run be about 63g each |
| 08:38.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | what for |
| 08:39.10 | Corrodias | thanks to blizzard, who put approximately 300 sockets on my gear, i have to spend a ton of money to make them good items |
| 08:39.53 | Corrodias | i wanted some Dazzling Talasite for my helm which is currently serving double duty as balance and restoration helm: Dazzling Talasite |
| 08:39.59 | Corrodias | i mean, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24065 |
| 08:40.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | lol |
| 08:40.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't bother socketing my stuff yet |
| 08:40.34 | Corrodias | i haven't seen a decent healing helm yet, but that's probably just because I CANT GET INTO AN INSTANCE |
| 08:40.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just put the vendor crap in them for now |
| 08:41.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | gems should start going down in price as they become more common |
| 08:41.51 | Corrodias | i'd go beat up foreign children if i could get on a shadow labyrinth run |
| 08:42.42 | dieck | Corrodias: My priest still runs with T2 helm. no better healing equip dropped yet :) |
| 08:44.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd go beat up foreign children for a couple bucks |
| 08:44.42 | Corrodias | i'd pay a couple of bucks to get into the shadow lab |
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| 08:46.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | hire some gold farmers to "keke u gief itam ^_^" you through it |
| 08:46.30 | Shirik | ha |
| 08:49.01 | Corrodias | i'm thinking of heading back to my old balance/restoration spec |
| 08:49.26 | Corrodias | i don't have a lot of killing power (NOTHING like what i get with feral) and can't tank, but i'd much rather heal an instance than tank or melee dps |
| 08:49.35 | Corrodias | and i think we went over this yesterday |
| 08:49.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | make up your mind :argh: |
| 08:49.46 | Corrodias | but my gear isn't up to it! how can i keep 4 sets of gear? |
| 08:50.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have 4 sets of gear but my nuking and healing stuff is pretty subpar |
| 08:50.05 | Corrodias | quests were not designed to reward you with 4 items |
| 08:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | since i'll give the healing leather stuff to pallies/shammies before i take it |
| 08:50.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just take it if it's gonna get DE'd otherwise |
| 08:50.35 | Corrodias | i think somebody wanted 400g for that Bringer of Death staff |
| 08:50.38 | Corrodias | i was all "lol nothx" |
| 08:50.55 | Corrodias | it's a magic damage staff |
| 08:51.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | when people offer ridiculous prices for things i just laugh |
| 08:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i know they're gonna get some scrub with those prices |
| 08:52.09 | Corrodias | i paid 88g for a braxxis's staff of slumber (druid tanking gear... even though i can't make up my mind on my spec). i wouldn't expect to pay much more for a balance staff. |
| 08:52.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha i'd probably never pay that |
| 08:53.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm such a racist stereotype in wow :[ |
| 08:54.00 | Corrodias | this is my old balance/restoration build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0xcrziIsLuZZxxcLxo |
| 08:54.23 | Corrodias | it worked pretty decently in world pvp, too... not so much in an arena |
| 08:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 08:55.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | hybrid specs are frowned upon these days |
| 08:55.13 | Shirik | well that's not saying much |
| 08:55.24 | Corrodias | i'd love to go full restoration, with a tree and everything |
| 08:55.27 | Shirik | for every class there are like two specific specs you can go, verbatim |
| 08:55.35 | Shirik | anything else is "looked down upon" |
| 08:55.54 | Shirik | because people think there is only 1 or 2 "best specs" out there, instead of thinking that it's very dependent upon your playstyle |
| 08:55.57 | Corrodias | but i need to be more flexible than being locked down into just healing |
| 08:56.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd wait until next PTR, corr |
| 08:56.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | we can do some spec testing |
| 08:56.21 | Corrodias | at least with a full feral build, i'm only locked down into "tanking or dps" |
| 08:56.29 | Corrodias | same tree feeding both roles |
| 08:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but a pure balance druid is infinitely better at healing than a pure feral druid |
| 08:57.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | since he's in gear that improves his healing, and has decent int |
| 08:57.14 | Corrodias | ah, here i could get a bringer of death for 250g :P |
| 08:57.25 | Corrodias | well yes |
| 08:57.46 | Corrodias | so it's "great at doing damage (but generates a lot of threat) and okay at healing" |
| 08:58.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | but you have ~plate mitigation while doing a lot of threat |
| 08:58.29 | Corrodias | yeah. well... mail, anyway. |
| 08:58.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | moonkin's 400% now |
| 08:58.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | same as bear now |
| 08:58.42 | leethal | aw.. making a frame draggable when you create the frame with lua (and is nooob) is not easy |
| 08:58.51 | Corrodias | yeah, but you don't get lots of +armor gear with spell damage on it |
| 08:58.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 08:58.57 | Corrodias | no rings, no staff/weapons |
| 08:59.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | but you can still get really close if not equal or slightly higher than plate in moonkin |
| 08:59.33 | Corrodias | i was getting about 11k armor in my older gear. now that i've gotten a few more tank-specific pieces i'm up to 13.6k |
| 08:59.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | of course you don't have the extra stam, defense, block, or parry that plate wearers have |
| 08:59.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm at like 14000, but i'm getting gear that increases my overall time to live more than just pure armor |
| 09:00.10 | Corrodias | i'm very bad at getting gear |
| 09:00.22 | Corrodias | i don't know how to find out what items i'm supposed to get, and i can't get into the instances to get them |
| 09:00.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can point you to the lists of best feral gear, i can't really help with balance and resto though |
| 09:01.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least pre-bear nerf/item rebalancing, dunno if they've changed or not |
| 09:01.22 | Corrodias | no, that's okay... |
| 09:01.39 | Corrodias | it really wouldn't help. i have to take whatever instance runs i can, because there isn't much opportunity |
| 09:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of the good feral stuff comes from quests |
| 09:01.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | not much comes from instances |
| 09:01.56 | Corrodias | well i'm pretty fucked because i wasn't feral until after i hit 70 |
| 09:02.42 | Corrodias | see, blizzard doesn't believe in hybrids |
| 09:03.06 | Corrodias | quest rewards give you one opportunity to choose what spec you're going to use |
| 09:04.19 | Corrodias | since i chose balance or restoration gear for almost all quest rewards until level 70, i can't -get- good feral gear until karazhan or later, apparently |
| 09:04.37 | Corrodias | just... "decent" stuff |
| 09:05.03 | Corrodias | i'm venting again. i need something to help me relax. |
| 09:05.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://druid.wikispaces.com/Gear+List |
| 09:05.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | check that out |
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| 09:11.05 | Corrodias | very confusing.. |
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| 09:13.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.gurgleblaster.net/emmerald/Cat_Sustained_DPS/Head.html |
| 09:13.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | is awesome |
| 09:13.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | for ferals at least |
| 09:14.07 | Corrodias | looks like the high level instances and pvp sets generally have the best stuff |
| 09:14.15 | Corrodias | as it should be |
| 09:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31219 |
| 09:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha |
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| 09:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can get "Emerald Beholder Eye of the Tiger" |
| 09:15.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | dun. dun dun dun. dun dun dunnnnnnnn. |
| 09:15.34 | Corrodias | ah, something to aim for... |
| 09:15.58 | Corrodias | Emerald Beholder Eye of the Hierophant (9% chance) // +47 Stamina, +31 Spirit, +69 Healing |
| 09:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a bunch of cats, trees, laser chickens, and bears, druids are awesome at math |
| 09:16.22 | bleetah | BOO! |
| 09:17.16 | Corrodias | http://druid.wikispaces.com/Balance+Gear+List is missing the Battlemage's Baton |
| 09:18.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom's missing a battlemage baton |
| 09:18.50 | Corrodias | your battlemage is missing your mom's baton |
| 09:19.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | that looks like it's rather incomplete, corr |
| 09:19.28 | Corrodias | i want one of this Bringer of Death, but i wonder if i can get a better deal on it than 250g |
| 09:23.10 | Corrodias | uh oh |
| 09:23.14 | Corrodias | that eyeball guy sounds unsoloable |
| 09:24.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=eyeball+guy |
| 09:24.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | ? :O |
| 09:24.29 | Corrodias | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18694#00Rzc |
| 09:25.56 | Corrodias | doesn't mean i won't try to solo him |
| 09:26.01 | Corrodias | but i expect to get creamed |
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| 09:26.44 | Corrodias | if i can find him |
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| 09:27.31 | Corrodias | maybe, just maybe, i could kite him all the way to a city |
| 09:28.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | group it's tapped for has gotta do >50% of damage to it to get credit iirc |
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| 09:32.48 | Corrodias | probably |
| 09:34.00 | Corrodias | also, it looks like he may not be spawned anyway |
| 09:37.06 | Corrodias | yeah, i don't see him |
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| 09:41.38 | Corrodias | i suppose "(rare)" means he may or may not exist |
| 09:43.52 | Gngngsk | talking about a rare spawn in shadowmoon? |
| 09:44.38 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 09:44.53 | Gngngsk | I killed taht guy once |
| 09:44.58 | Gngngsk | you won't be able to solo him, that's for sure |
| 09:45.21 | Corrodias | i'd be satisfied just -seeing- him for now |
| 09:45.52 | Gngngsk | you want something he drops? |
| 09:47.01 | Corrodias | yeaaaah |
| 09:47.04 | Corrodias | nice healms |
| 09:47.05 | Gngngsk | ahh |
| 09:47.08 | Gngngsk | speaking of rare elites |
| 09:47.08 | Corrodias | *helms |
| 09:47.13 | Gngngsk | just found malfunctioning reaver in BS |
| 09:47.45 | Corrodias | BS.. BS... |
| 09:47.45 | Corrodias | doesn't sound familiar |
| 09:47.45 | Gngngsk | burning steppes |
| 09:48.09 | Gngngsk | whadya know, he dropped an ug for me |
| 09:48.45 | Corrodias | ug? |
| 09:48.54 | Gngngsk | upgrade |
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| 09:52.03 | bleetah | ~staple kaso |
| 09:52.06 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples kaso quite well, and hands kaso to bleetah |
| 09:52.13 | kaso | owch] |
| 09:52.35 | bleetah | sorry mate.. but it's fer your own good ;) :P |
| 09:53.48 | Corrodias | none of the database sites give any tips on how to FIND the guy |
| 09:53.53 | Corrodias | i guess it's just... rare |
| 09:56.13 | kaso | my file system keeps having a mental break down |
| 09:56.27 | kaso | i think my hard disk is damaged, but im a poor student and cant afford to replace |
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| 10:07.35 | kaso | ~devtools |
| 10:07.38 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 10:07.45 | kaso | thanks purl |
| 10:22.30 | kaso | anyone know how it would be possible to have print() use linux console colors in stand alone lua ? |
| 10:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh_qyPsE_54 |
| 10:24.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10 druid wsg :O |
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| 10:28.24 | bleetah | kaso: I'm no lua coder, but at a guess, I'd say all you'd need to do is print the apropriate escape code that the terminal support. the 'fun' bit would be determining which escape codes are supported the terminal that the code is being run in. |
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| 10:28.49 | bleetah | ergh, it's getting late.. I think I missed a word or two, but hopefully you get the idea |
| 10:29.08 | kaso | someone in lua got it, it uses standard ansi escape codes |
| 10:29.21 | bleetah | looking at the plotting code inside http://www.lua.org/pil/6.html I'd say it's possible |
| 10:29.23 | kaso | \27[32mThis is green\27[0m |
| 10:29.47 | Shirik | o.o |
| 10:29.57 | kaso | Im editing DevTools Dump to work out of wow and i want the colors right :> |
| 10:30.06 | Shirik | it was black to me :P |
| 10:30.09 | Bleeter | 'cept it's not green here :P |
| 10:30.14 | Shirik | (05:29:37 AM) kaso: \27[32mThis is green\27[0m |
| 10:30.29 | Shirik | might be because I'm on gaim though |
| 10:30.31 | Bleeter | prolly the irc client mangling it ;) |
| 10:30.32 | kaso | well because this isnt an ansi console |
| 10:30.39 | kaso | it isnt green to me either |
| 10:30.54 | kaso | but if you print() that on stand alone lua on unix :> |
| 10:30.54 | Bleeter | isn't green on VT(somethingorother) inside irssi |
| 10:31.39 | Shirik | haven't gotten lua for unix yet |
| 10:31.49 | bleetah | yeah, the problem would still be determining what the terminal supports, it's current color config, and making the text readable |
| 10:31.53 | Shirik | would get around to it but still tackling this proxy server that refuses to be set up |
| 10:32.08 | bleetah | fairly useless outputting green text if the user (for whatever reason) has, say, black text on green background |
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| 10:32.13 | kaso | what color is 88ccff ? |
| 10:32.22 | Shirik | bright purpleish |
| 10:32.25 | kaso | thanks |
| 10:32.35 | Shirik | bright bluish purple |
| 10:32.43 | Shirik | RRGGBB just add em up :P |
| 10:32.44 | Shirik | FF = 255 |
| 10:32.49 | kaso | im lazy :. |
| 10:33.04 | kaso | the console only has a few colors so its now "magenta" for me |
| 10:33.42 | bleetah | Shirik: you don't use gaim, do you? yerk! |
| 10:34.21 | Shirik | I didn't intend to |
| 10:34.24 | bleetah | hah, haven't contributed code in over a year, and they're still listing me as a crazy patch writer :/ |
| 10:34.27 | Shirik | only reason is I just set this computer up and it's already installed |
| 10:34.35 | Shirik | I'll get rid of it asap because I really can't stand this right now |
| 10:34.40 | Shirik | but... more important things to do atm |
| 10:35.00 | bleetah | yeah, it's OK to get by with on IRC until one gets irssi setup ;) :P |
| 10:35.42 | Shirik | was looking for xterm and I saw that in the gnome menu so I hit it and went back to looking |
| 10:35.59 | bleetah | not a urxvt person? |
| 10:35.59 | Shirik | (gaim, that is) |
| 10:36.03 | bleetah | ah |
| 10:36.16 | Shirik | urxvt? |
| 10:36.51 | bleetah | the unicode rxvt. rxvt's probably the better of all the terms available. |
| 10:36.53 | Shirik | "a colour vt102 terminal emulator intended as an xterm replacement" |
| 10:37.09 | Shirik | ha |
| 10:37.11 | Shirik | colour |
| 10:37.13 | Shirik | crazy brits |
| 10:37.41 | Shirik | never heard of it really; tried running it, it says it doesn't exist and I'm not going to go around looking for it atm :P |
| 10:37.55 | bleetah | erm, crazy Americans thinking that the spelling of a word in English, which does not match their own crazy spelling, is exlusively British... without realising it's pretty much the rest of the English speaking world :P |
| 10:38.16 | Shirik | omg!@!! |
| 10:38.17 | bleetah | yeah, the real good stuff for *nix always seems to be like that |
| 10:38.19 | Shirik | brb |
| 10:38.56 | bleetah | *daemon |
| 10:39.02 | Shirik | so yeah um |
| 10:39.09 | Shirik | the water I put on the stove to boil was boiling |
| 10:39.13 | Shirik | for about 4 hours now |
| 10:39.17 | bleetah | oops |
| 10:39.28 | Shirik | actually there wasn't much water left maybe like half a cm |
| 10:39.38 | bleetah | interesting method to humidify a room |
| 10:40.04 | Shirik | least I didn't put the food in yet |
| 10:40.18 | bleetah | hah... reminds me of a housemate who burned the cabbage one night |
| 10:40.35 | bleetah | we were 'wtf! burned cabbage!' |
| 10:42.17 | kaso | yay i like my stand alone Devtoolsdump! |
| 10:43.27 | Corrodias | at least it didn't get completely empty |
| 10:43.31 | Corrodias | because then the pan could have taken damage |
| 10:43.49 | Corrodias | i came back to look up something on wowhead, but now i can't remember what it was |
| 10:44.09 | bleetah | cabbage? |
| 10:44.23 | Corrodias | i don't suppose there's a PTR up? |
| 10:45.54 | Shirik | doubt it; 2.0.10 was just released |
| 10:45.58 | bleetah | nup, well no US PTR |
| 10:47.18 | bleetah | personally, I wouldn't be suprised if there's no more PTR until 2.1.0 PTR... I'm only basing that on the 'new' stuff added to Iriel's UI forum post. Would seem to be about the stage of 'almost ready', plus a ocuple of other comments by blues in the general forum |
| 10:47.36 | bleetah | as I say, just guessing |
| 10:47.45 | Corrodias | i remember now! |
| 10:47.51 | Corrodias | how to get aldor rep, that's what |
| 10:48.06 | bleetah | kill stuff! how else does one get rep? :P |
| 10:48.14 | bleetah | nn all |
| 10:48.27 | kaso | Im starting to think two screens isnt enough |
| 10:48.48 | kaso | Couple more above my head angled down would be nice <3 |
| 10:48.53 | Corrodias | i'd be surprised if any number of screens will ever be enough |
| 10:49.31 | kaso | When i get a matrix-esque set up i'll be happy |
| 10:52.32 | leethal | how does one take number x and turn it into 05 if it's 5, but keep 15 if it's 15? (not 015) |
| 10:52.56 | Corrodias | 05 the string? |
| 10:53.44 | Shirik | do |
| 10:53.44 | Corrodias | function (int x) if x == 5 then return "05" elseif x == 15 return "15" end end, or whatever the lua equivalent of that may be |
| 10:53.46 | leethal | no, number |
| 10:53.51 | Corrodias | 05 isn't a number |
| 10:53.55 | Shirik | string.format("%2d", x); |
| 10:54.01 | Shirik | er wait, that would put a space, not a 0 |
| 10:54.05 | Shirik | but it's something like that, one sec |
| 10:54.12 | leethal | yarr =D |
| 10:54.21 | Corrodias | that's probably a better way of doing it |
| 10:54.28 | Corrodias | although possibly slower |
| 10:54.33 | leethal | I'll take a look at string.format |
| 10:55.05 | Shirik | it's |
| 10:55.11 | Shirik | string.format("%02d", x) |
| 10:55.12 | Corrodias | time for me to sleep. i guess there's stuff for me to grind yet if i want better gear but can't get into instances. there's pvp gear, anyway. |
| 10:55.14 | Shirik | assuming x is an integer |
| 10:55.19 | Corrodias | 'ni |
| 10:55.23 | leethal | ah, sweet |
| 10:55.23 | Shirik | night |
| 10:59.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm off to bed too |
| 10:59.40 | Shirik | night |
| 10:59.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think corr and i have our mental clock stuck in australia or something |
| 10:59.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 11:00.03 | Shirik | me too :P |
| 11:00.14 | Shirik | yesterday I went to sleep at about noon |
| 11:00.17 | Shirik | woke up around 7pm |
| 11:00.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | what time is it in kangarooville |
| 11:00.32 | Shirik | I'll probably do that today too |
| 11:00.34 | Shirik | hmm |
| 11:00.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | its 6 am EST |
| 11:00.44 | Shirik | yeah |
| 11:00.52 | Shirik | I'm guessing it's about 10 hours off eastern |
| 11:01.14 | bleetah | really, I'm not here.. but... |
| 11:01.40 | bleetah | it's 10PM Vic/NSW/Tas, 9PM QLD, 8:30SA, 8NT, ... maybe 7 in WA |
| 11:01.49 | bleetah | it just gets crazy during summertime .. hard to keep up |
| 11:02.09 | bleetah | take 2 |
| 11:02.09 | bleetah | nn |
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| 11:56.33 | Shirik | impressive |
| 11:56.37 | Shirik | wow actually works in wine |
| 11:56.38 | Shirik | ... well |
| 11:56.55 | leethal | not with ati x800 =( |
| 11:57.03 | Shirik | that's because ati hates linux |
| 11:57.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | ati + wow arent best buddies either |
| 11:57.21 | Shirik | I mean... wtf |
| 11:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i couldn't go to into searing gorge for the longest time |
| 11:57.24 | Shirik | I thought you went to sleap |
| 11:57.26 | Shirik | sleep |
| 11:57.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had to install omega drivers to stop crashing in SG/BWL |
| 11:57.44 | Shirik | ha |
| 11:57.47 | leethal | what's up there? |
| 11:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm working on it |
| 11:57.51 | leethal | nifty shaders? |
| 11:57.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 11:57.56 | Shirik | yeah but like, seriously... it's running faster than it does in windows >.> |
| 11:57.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was only those zones |
| 11:58.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it happened to a lot of people |
| 11:58.16 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 11:58.20 | Shirik | I can't think of anything strange there |
| 11:58.25 | Shirik | if anything I would expect outlands to cause problems |
| 11:58.37 | Shirik | with the skyboxes |
| 11:58.42 | krka | Shirik: that's not really a weird thing. remember that wine is not an emulator |
| 11:58.46 | leethal | mm, zoning hellfire peninsula => zangarmarsh is weird |
| 11:58.55 | Shirik | I know but... linux is "not supported" |
| 11:58.57 | krka | runs better for me in linux too |
| 11:59.02 | Shirik | so we would expect it not to be optimized well |
| 11:59.22 | krka | what do you mean by that? |
| 11:59.33 | krka | what specifically don't you expect to be optimized? |
| 11:59.38 | Wobin | Wow works better for me in Wine than it did in Windows |
| 11:59.44 | Wobin | except sound |
| 11:59.47 | Wobin | which still stutters |
| 11:59.49 | Shirik | :( actually it just crashed on me |
| 11:59.57 | Shirik | hmm, still need to do some tinkering I guess |
| 11:59.59 | nevcairiel | How is that possible Wob ? :D |
| 12:00.10 | Wobin | I honestly have no idea =) |
| 12:00.27 | Wobin | Possibly cause I've completely wiped my HD and started from scratch |
| 12:00.34 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 12:00.46 | nevcairiel | I've always wanted to try linux on this comp |
| 12:00.57 | nevcairiel | but, i need it for work, and i develop windows applications |
| 12:01.11 | Shirik | so develop windows apps to work in wine :P |
| 12:01.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:11.36 | krka | dual boot ftw |
| 12:11.56 | krka | hm, maybe i should wipe the windows partition on my home computer, i haven't booted it in like a year |
| 12:12.00 | Shirik | haha |
| 12:12.44 | Wobin | yeah |
| 12:12.51 | Wobin | Well I set mine up for dual boot |
| 12:13.05 | Wobin | but Windows XP recognised maybe 10% of my hardware |
| 12:13.12 | Wobin | It couldn't figure out the network card |
| 12:13.21 | Wobin | Ubuntu, on the other hand, got everything out of the box =P |
| 12:13.33 | krka | yeah, same thing here |
| 12:13.33 | Wobin | I've yet to set up Windows properly with the right drivers yet |
| 12:13.40 | Shirik | yeah that's what I'm on right now :) It had trouble with my graphics though |
| 12:13.44 | Shirik | but that's because of my monitor |
| 12:13.48 | krka | i inherited an old laptop recently, ubuntu installed perfectly |
| 12:13.51 | krka | everything detected |
| 12:13.51 | Shirik | I had to install from text mode and configure manually |
| 12:14.18 | Shirik | I think the ubuntu installer runs at 1280x1024 is what I'm told? |
| 12:14.25 | Shirik | but my monitor can't go that high :( |
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| 12:15.16 | krka | what ubuntu installer? |
| 12:15.21 | Shirik | live cd? |
| 12:15.31 | krka | that's just a plain x bootup |
| 12:15.40 | krka | the installer just runs in a plain window |
| 12:15.43 | Shirik | yeah but it hates my monitor apparently |
| 12:15.54 | Shirik | Started up and all I get is an orange screen with random dots |
| 12:15.59 | krka | you could boot up with safe screen settings |
| 12:16.05 | Shirik | tried it, same deal :/ |
| 12:16.47 | Shirik | no real clue what exactly the problem was, but I installed from text mode, went to runlevel 3, installed the nvidia drivers and did some configuration and now it's ok |
| 12:16.52 | Shirik | so not going to worry about it anymore |
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| 13:03.24 | miguillo | call to contribution: could you have a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Formulas:Dodge and take 2 minutes to post your data please? |
| 13:08.49 | Shirik | will do so asap |
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| 18:12.06 | sysrage | what noise does pac-man make? |
| 18:12.57 | Bouvi | wacca wacca wacca |
| 18:13.43 | sysrage | ty |
| 18:13.48 | sysrage | my co-worker = pwned |
| 18:15.03 | Bouvi | I remember spending hours on the Pac Man at the roller rink. Spent 1 quarter. Made it to the split board a ton of times. |
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| 19:23.24 | bleetah | Iriel|Away: I'm getting the same error with DoubleWide as was reported recently on the German client. I'll try and save you some fingerwork by working out where the conflict is :) |
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| 19:26.24 | kaso | How do you include another lua file in stand alone lua source |
| 19:27.49 | cogwheel|work | kaso: http://www.lua.org/pil/8.1.html |
| 19:28.20 | kaso | oh |
| 19:28.28 | kaso | i though require was just for packages |
| 19:28.29 | kaso | thanks |
| 19:28.58 | cogwheel|work | well, you could use dofile instead (as noted in that chapter) |
| 19:30.23 | amro | or open a file and use dostring |
| 19:31.04 | cogwheel|work | hmm... after responding within minutes, he suddenly stopped... I wonder why... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81961638&sid=1 |
| 19:31.55 | cogwheel|work | test (having network issues) |
| 19:32.10 | bleetah | heya cogwheel|work, works fine |
| 19:33.13 | TC_Working | no it dosent, cog we couldnt see your test msg at all |
| 19:34.39 | cogwheel|work | ut oh |
| 19:35.16 | bleetah | Iriel|Away: it'd appear to be conflicting with MobileFrames from Cosmos, causing DoubleWide to not load. I've posted my note on the mod's page. |
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| 19:39.45 | kergoth | cogwheel|work: fyi, found the field `last' is a nil value bug in cogsbar on line 74 of CogsBar.lua.. on line 96 of CogsBarCreate.lua, you do a local first, last = strsplit(), overriding the local first, last from the parent scope |
| 19:39.56 | kergoth | cogwheel|work: so first and last are both nil outside the if block |
| 19:40.11 | Tem | lol |
| 19:40.16 | Tem | what a wonderfully inclusive ban |
| 19:40.18 | Tem | "troll sets ban on *!*@*.aol.com" |
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| 19:41.59 | cogwheel|work | kergoth: thanks. i'll look into that |
| 19:42.33 | nevcairiel | Tem: back in the day, we had to use that all the time. because stupid bot kiddies generally got hacked aol accounts. |
| 19:43.08 | kergoth | cogwheel|work: np. right now you cant specify a range at all due to that bug. works great after removing the local from that line though, thanks for the addon :) |
| 19:43.10 | nevcairiel | i think they even banned full aol from the irc network once |
| 19:43.34 | Tem | lol |
| 19:44.37 | nevcairiel | it was hard enough getting a good security bot up and running |
| 19:44.46 | nevcairiel | stupid hackers :P |
| 19:45.03 | nevcairiel | that was a great time.. :) |
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| 19:48.18 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 20:54.51 | jaxdahl | i'm trying to find a site that had drops categorized by boss for mc-naxx |
| 20:54.58 | jaxdahl | and a rating for each piece for each class/spec |
| 20:55.10 | jaxdahl | like judgement would be a 5 for a ret paladin and 3-4 for a holy paladin |
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| 20:57.34 | seth___ | Hi |
| 20:57.41 | Gryphen | he3ya |
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| 20:59.55 | seth___ | Hmmm is wowwiki right now pretty slow or is it my line thats slow? |
| 21:00.27 | leethal | slow here too |
| 21:00.57 | leethal | in fact, since you asked it hasn't even loaded the frontpage |
| 21:01.28 | seth___ | ah than its fine I gues ... or not depends on the point of view ;) |
| 21:02.26 | seth___ | I was worreid because it got slow after I registerd an account and just thought maybe its because I'm logged in now or something elese strange going on ^^ |
| 21:02.59 | leethal | hehe |
| 21:09.58 | seth___ | But at least somebody seems to read whats written here thats goood :D |
| 21:10.48 | zenzelezz | for what it's worth though, this is the WoWInterface channel, there's a separate #wowwiki (but you're welcome here anyhow ;) |
| 21:11.22 | Gryphen | wiki should recover in a few minutes |
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| 21:13.47 | leethal | who is the wiki peeps? |
| 21:13.55 | leethal | who pays for the hosting? Who owns it? |
| 21:14.03 | leethal | just "some people"? nothing fance? |
| 21:14.05 | leethal | fancy* |
| 21:23.15 | wobin | They're just some guy, y'know |
| 21:23.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | batman |
| 21:24.24 | [dRaCo] | jaxdahl: try http://wow-loot.com/ |
| 21:25.35 | wobin | sob |
| 21:25.39 | wobin | I hate commerical radio =\ |
| 21:25.47 | Sstixrud | wow releasing your mod even in Beta form creates you a lot of work :) |
| 21:25.57 | wobin | Why oh why do they need to play the -same- songs.. over and over and over again? |
| 21:26.09 | Sstixrud | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6965-UnitButtons.html |
| 21:26.10 | wobin | and call them "And now for Eskimo Joe's NEW SONG" |
| 21:26.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | because the dj's barely there these days wobin |
| 21:26.18 | pastamancer | wobin: because they're told to |
| 21:26.18 | Sstixrud | at least I am getting good feedback heh |
| 21:26.33 | wobin | Sstixrud: Totally =) |
| 21:26.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | he sets up a playlist in winamp or whatever, prerecords some stuff to say inbetween songs, and gets paid for the full airtime |
| 21:26.50 | pastamancer | releasing beta mods is more trouble than it's worth, IMO |
| 21:26.55 | bleetah | wobin: matter of curiosity, do you class JJJ as commercial? (for the record, I do) |
| 21:27.06 | pastamancer | get guildies to test and release when it's ready |
| 21:27.09 | wobin | I'd listen to JJJ, but I don't like the music |
| 21:27.17 | Sstixrud | past what guild? =) |
| 21:27.19 | wobin | But yeah, fairly commercial |
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| 21:27.26 | wobin | since they're not exactly community radio |
| 21:27.29 | pastamancer | friends then |
| 21:28.14 | Sstixrud | How much work is it to switch from using the standard 120 action buttons to custom buttons? |
| 21:28.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | the college stations aroud here play the most crazy stuff |
| 21:28.26 | bleetah | far as I can tell, the only difference is that the only ads they run is for themselves... that's to say, if they ran 'real' commercials, one wouldn't really be able to tell much of a difference. the music is not as 'alternative' as what it used to be |
| 21:28.34 | wobin | hm |
| 21:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | one second techno, next song bluegrass, next song some weird reggaeish stuff, next song some death metal |
| 21:28.40 | wobin | maybe I'll give it a go |
| 21:29.13 | bleetah | oh, it's still 'alternative', if what you're used to is say, Nova or MMM etc.... it's just not *my* idea of alternative, which is what Mr_Rabies2 is talking about |
| 21:29.22 | wobin | I never really liked it cause I could never recognise any songs I heard. And while I was just complaining about overrepetitive music earlier... |
| 21:29.43 | bleetah | when I was doing my shows on public radio, i had no qualms about playing some slayer, then maybe some beethoven, then some robert johnson, then some goonshow, etc. etc. |
| 21:29.54 | wobin | See? Interesting =) |
| 21:30.31 | wobin | "MMM You never know what you're going to get!" (Sure I do. Eskimo Joe, followed by Evanescence") |
| 21:30.54 | wobin | At least they stopped playing the stupid EJ Neverending story song |
| 21:31.06 | wobin | worst riff to choose... ever =P |
| 21:31.34 | wobin | and I do like MMM's choice of 80's |
| 21:31.36 | Sstixrud | Is there a simple way to see if a spell can be cast and if not why? (i.e. more powerful spell exists, a debuff prevents it (i.e. forbearance), out ot range, out of line of sight etc...) |
| 21:32.06 | zenzelezz | I'm so tempted to say "try to cast it" :-x |
| 21:32.15 | Sstixrud | I would like to account for these things without hard coding a bunch of logic (at least for the case of debuff preventing cast and more powerful spell) that may break with future wow updates |
| 21:32.46 | wobin | Sstixrud: unfortunately not |
| 21:33.02 | wobin | Sstixrud: I believe, even the client doesn't figure it out until the server returns the result |
| 21:33.10 | Sstixrud | :| |
| 21:33.17 | wobin | Although |
| 21:33.22 | wobin | With Forebearance and stuff |
| 21:33.31 | wobin | You can prescan the target for that particular buff |
| 21:33.52 | wobin | But the problem with "more powerful spell" is that often, the tooltips don't give enough information |
| 21:34.08 | wobin | eg, imp divine spirit compared to divine spirit etc |
| 21:34.09 | Sstixrud | Yes I have that working, but I realy really want to avoid hard coding specifics in my button status logic, as those types of hacks are what will break over time |
| 21:34.13 | wobin | the tooltip is identical =\ |
| 21:34.29 | bleetah | wobin: http://www.rumble.net/psychedelicatessen/ is a JJ radio drama from back in the mid 70's.. was probably the last time they did anything really challenging.. there's a great quote in that radioplay, too... "penetrating bounce of its signal couldn't cut the cryogenital state of Australian broadcasting " |
| 21:34.56 | wobin | It is pretty stagnant, isn't it? =\ |
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| 21:35.19 | bleetah | at least The Chaser guys will be back this year :-) |
| 21:35.21 | wobin | Wow, JJJ have been around for a while =P |
| 21:36.06 | bleetah | yeah, started out as JJ public radio station, ABC 'bought them out'... eventually killing most public radio around the country when it went national |
| 21:36.43 | wobin | Auntie takes them out =P |
| 21:37.00 | Tain | Killing me softly with his song. |
| 21:37.30 | bleetah | anyways, download rangoon to grafton from that site.. it's a *brilliant* story. will prolly take you four or five listens to 'get' it ;-) |
| 21:37.39 | wobin | hehe |
| 21:38.08 | wobin | oh man |
| 21:38.25 | wobin | It's like ... existential beat poetry with aussie in-references |
| 21:39.04 | bleetah | are you old enough to remember the esteeemed ABC newsreader James Dibble? He does most of the reading rofl |
| 21:39.09 | wobin | The hills were alive with the sound of snorting truckies, and I was just begining to lay back and enjoy it, when I heard a noise like a Sunbeam Lady Shaver in reverse. I looked out to see some poor schizoid drive out of a creek and disappear backwards up the road. His laugh looked a lot like mine, but I knew it wasn't me. No one from Sydney can laugh that long. |
| 21:39.13 | wobin | >< |
| 21:41.16 | leethal | is there any addons for being able to target stuff via the minimap when you're tracking (huntard stuff) |
| 21:41.27 | leethal | (adding a ? for truth) |
| 21:43.43 | Shadowed | Can't be done while in combat leethal, I believe some of the sentry mods will show the names of whos on tracking though |
| 21:43.52 | leethal | aha |
| 21:44.04 | Shadowed | Out of courisoity, has anyone used the MX Revolution mouse by Logitech? |
| 21:44.41 | Tain | Yes, best mouse I ever had. |
| 21:44.52 | Tain | I can't imagine life without it anymore. |
| 21:45.00 | Shadowed | what were you using before? |
| 21:45.27 | sysrage | my razer mouse owns |
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| 21:45.39 | Tain | hmmm MX700 I think before. ONe of the other wireless Logitechs |
| 21:45.48 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 21:46.07 | Shadowed | using an MX1000 right now, was debating if it was worth getting. guess it is! |
| 21:47.14 | Shadowed | the left/right buttons on the thumb weren't hard to reach then? |
| 21:47.18 | Shadowed | s/weren't/aren't/ |
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| 21:59.15 | Shadowed | ping ping ping? |
| 21:59.47 | Cairenn|afk | apparently |
| 21:59.53 | bleetah | OW! |
| 22:00.04 | Cairenn|afk | O.O |
| 22:02.56 | zenzelezz | the sharp end of a pin rarely points upwards after landing |
| 22:03.07 | cogwheel|work | unless it's a thumbtack... |
| 22:03.09 | zenzelezz | shouldn't hurt to step on it |
| 22:03.28 | zenzelezz | thumbtacks aren't "pins" in my opinion :-p |
| 22:03.31 | bleetah | feet rarely touch the ground in a fully vertical movement |
| 22:03.51 | bleetah | anyways, I was lying.. I'm wearing boots :P |
| 22:04.00 | cogwheel|work | bleetah: you shouldn't shuffle then :P |
| 22:04.01 | zenzelezz | so you slap girls around for false reasons? |
| 22:04.26 | bleetah | zenzelezz: only the ones named Cairenn|afk |
| 22:04.46 | bleetah | purl, comfort Cairenn |
| 22:04.48 | purl | There, there, Cairenn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:04.58 | zenzelezz | hah, I was faster |
| 22:05.07 | cogwheel|work | what exactly is the etymology of "there, there,..." |
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| 22:06.41 | wobin | A repetitive nonsensical phrase to indicate "There is nothing to worry about"? |
| 22:06.43 | Cairenn | mostly just random soothing noise when you're hugging someone, patting their shoulder, rubbing their back, etc. while they cry |
| 22:07.54 | cogwheel|work | O.o |
| 22:08.02 | cogwheel|work | "sperm" is censored on the wow forums... |
| 22:08.44 | Cairenn | and this surprises you? |
| 22:09.11 | cogwheel|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=82080969&sid=1 |
| 22:09.21 | bleetah | October 13. “There she blows,” was sung out from the mast-head. “Where away?” demanded the captain. “Three points off the lee bow, sir.” “Raise up your wheel. Steady!” “Steady, sir.” “Mast-head ahoy! Do you see that whale now?” “Ay ay, sir! A shoal of Sperm Whales! There she blows! There she breaches!” “Sing out! sing out every time!” “Ay Ay, sir! There she blows! there—there—thar she blows |
| 22:09.24 | cogwheel|work | or what about a discussion of Douglas Adams books? |
| 22:09.49 | Cairenn | ahhhh |
| 22:09.57 | zenzelezz | so many unrecognized characters in that paste :-| |
| 22:10.19 | Thrae | "I like the Grapes of Wrath"...oops, crap |
| 22:10.45 | cogwheel|work | Or what about when there was that blue sticky post and he had to spell Buttons wrong because they censored Butt? |
| 22:11.14 | bleetah | are they still blocking 'therapist'? |
| 22:11.19 | cogwheel|work | I mean, c'mon... the dialog in the game is more risque than the stuff they censor on the forums... |
| 22:11.37 | cogwheel|work | s/the stuff/some of the stuff/ |
| 22:12.45 | Thrae | You have to pay for the game, you don't have to pay to view the forums |
| 22:15.58 | cogwheel|work | While somewhat non sequitur, i do see what you're getting at. (it's really that you agree to the content, rather than simply that you pay) |
| 22:17.04 | Cairenn | I don't agree with that - no one is forcing you to read the forums, either |
| 22:17.16 | cogwheel|work | didn't say i agree :P |
| 22:17.38 | Cairenn | but as an argument as to why it's okay in game but not on the forums, that doesn't fly |
| 22:18.14 | Cairenn | you choose to pay for the game (and thus the content), you choose to read the forums (and thus the content) |
| 22:18.35 | cogwheel|work | yep. but it's probably a CYA thing... (though they could just as easily throw up a splash screen before letting you read the forums... and set a cookie so you don't have to agree every time) |
| 22:18.49 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 22:19.03 | zenzelezz | anyone can visit the forums; while in theory only people above a certain age can play the game |
| 22:19.51 | Cairenn | if they aren't old enough to play the game then they shouldn't be old enough to be surfing the internet without parental supervision as well |
| 22:20.11 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: I agree, but it's harder to protect the forums in the same way |
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| 22:20.50 | zenzelezz | you have to agree that you're old enough to play the game, but you don't need to for the forums |
| 22:21.58 | Cairenn | don't get me wrong, I have no objection to a degree of censorship on the forums, I'm glad they do, but the degree to which they do is nuts, as evidenced repeatedly, and other than pure CYA, the other arguments thus far comparing the forums to the game don't really hold water, imo |
| 22:22.20 | seth___ | Don't you require an account to post in the forums? so the policy could/should whatever state that you need to be older than age X |
| 22:22.28 | Cairenn | to post, yes |
| 22:22.30 | Cairenn | not to read |
| 22:22.31 | nevcairiel | but everyone can read |
| 22:22.40 | seth___ | yeha ok right |
| 22:22.48 | zenzelezz | sidetrack, what does CYA mean? |
| 22:22.54 | Cairenn | cover your ass |
| 22:23.17 | zenzelezz | hm, never seen that one before |
| 22:23.44 | seth___ | Cu You All ;) but depends on the context ^^ |
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| 22:37.35 | MentalPower | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spring Break has officially STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:38.01 | nevcairiel | so more time for coding eh? |
| 22:38.27 | bleetah | or just noob style screams? :P |
| 22:38.38 | MentalPower | ~lart bleetah |
| 22:38.44 | Xenok | hehe |
| 22:38.50 | MentalPower | ~botsnack |
| 22:38.50 | purl | thanks, MentalPower |
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| 22:47.42 | cogwheel|work | sunder counter giving you trouble? |
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| 22:48.50 | Shadowed | I haven't done much work on that lately, the colors started flickering back to the original randomly and can't figure out if i broke something or if 2.0.10 changed something |
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| 22:50.25 | Xenok | me thinks you broke it |
| 22:50.37 | Xenok | s/me//me/ |
| 22:50.40 | Xenok | hmm |
| 22:50.58 | Xenok | purl, kill yourself |
| 22:51.00 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxneutrino gun at yourself |
| 22:51.05 | Xenok | huh? |
| 22:51.20 | Xenok | purl, suicide |
| 22:51.21 | purl | ACTION kills herself Juliet style, after seeing xenok commit suicide |
| 22:51.29 | Xenok | darn you |
| 22:51.44 | Cairenn | purl, die |
| 22:51.46 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 22:51.48 | Xenok | purl sees the fture! |
| 22:52.00 | Xenok | cairenn . I didn't think of that |
| 22:52.26 | Xenok | purl, read |
| 22:52.28 | purl | ACTION reads Lord of the rings |
| 22:52.42 | Cairenn | purl has good taste |
| 22:52.57 | Xenok | purl, take a picture |
| 22:53.09 | Xenok | ... didn't think so |
| 22:53.27 | Xenok | ~rabies |
| 22:53.57 | Xenok | purl has rabies |
| 22:54.17 | Xenok | that should be one... you type purl has rabies and purl lunges at you >.> |
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| 23:01.24 | leethal | someone should make a purl reference |
| 23:01.42 | TC_Working | if you suggest it.... |
| 23:02.08 | Xenok | can somone make a pyurl refrence? |
| 23:02.10 | Xenok | :P |
| 23:02.21 | Xenok | er purl |
| 23:02.58 | Cairenn | looks like we have two volunteers, thank you leethal & Xenok |
| 23:03.13 | leethal | bah, reverse engineering sucks |
| 23:03.13 | Xenok | volunteers? for what? |
| 23:03.23 | leethal | hand over the code and I'll do it |
| 23:04.21 | leethal | would wowwiki.com/Purl be appropriate? |
| 23:04.39 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:04.46 | Xenok | I like it :P |
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| 23:05.29 | TC_Working | more like wowwiki.com/Purl_The_lord_and_master_of_all_IRC_Chanels |
| 23:05.39 | TC_Working | i little long, but we can work with it |
| 23:05.40 | leethal | I'm pro at creating irc bot joke references |
| 23:05.46 | leethal | I did that with the irc bot in #rubyonrails |
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