| 00:00.10 | cogwheel|work | don't remind me of tax returns |
| 00:00.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge mahiro (n=Miranda@53.8.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 00:00.32 | mahiro | hi |
| 00:00.35 | cogwheel|work | I've owed > $1000 each time the last couple years beyond what was already withheld |
| 00:00.39 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 00:00.46 | JoshBorke | purl, comfort cogwheel|work |
| 00:00.51 | purl | There, there, cogwheel|work. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 00:00.51 | TC_Working | dont make so much money then |
| 00:00.57 | JoshBorke | donate more money to poor people like me :-D |
| 00:01.26 | mahiro | can someone explain me why fBar:SetAlpha(1) works and UIFrameFadeIn(fBar, 2, 0.2, 1) does not work? |
| 00:01.26 | JoshBorke | i can take paypal if that's convenient :-P |
| 00:01.39 | cogwheel|work | Does giving away mobo/cpu/gfx hardware to guildies count? XD |
| 00:02.11 | TC_Working | no, if it's not top of the line it's just cruel and unsual |
| 00:02.17 | cogwheel|work | (gave my guild leader an athlon 64 3000+, 3gb ram, nvidia 6800gt) |
| 00:02.33 | TC_Working | like i said..... |
| 00:03.11 | cogwheel|work | hey now... that thing plays wow at 1280x1024 with graphics settings maxed out at 30fps during raids... |
| 00:03.30 | cogwheel|work | better than the 10 or so she was used to :P |
| 00:03.57 | cogwheel|work | XD |
| 00:04.25 | mahiro | isnt that a bit low for such a machine?o_O |
| 00:04.26 | TC_Working | just because it's better does *not* mean you get a tax break for inferior hardware |
| 00:04.51 | cogwheel|work | it would get up to around 80fps during normal gameplay |
| 00:05.09 | Esamynn | so, cogwheel|work, why were you giving your GM computer hardware? |
| 00:05.15 | Esamynn | looking for a little DKP love? ;) |
| 00:05.34 | TC_Working | well cog did say she...might be another kind of love |
| 00:05.34 | cogwheel|work | heh... no... we raided with another guild so there was none o' that :P |
| 00:05.48 | cogwheel|work | (not to the GL) |
| 00:05.49 | JoshBorke | just some personal attention ;-) |
| 00:05.53 | TC_Working | hmm...well that doesnt stop some ppl |
| 00:05.57 | bleetah | "I either want no corruption, or as much chance to participate in it as possible" - Source unknown |
| 00:06.15 | mahiro | so can someone help me with this fade thing? |
| 00:06.16 | cogwheel|work | Nah... my wife and I upgraded to C2D E6600, 4gb ram, 7900gt late last year |
| 00:06.53 | cogwheel|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.27 | cogwheel|work | (and no, you can have my stuff :P ) |
| 00:07.37 | cogwheel|work | s/can/can't/ |
| 00:07.38 | JoshBorke | oh thanks! |
| 00:07.46 | Esamynn | ~lart cogwheel|work |
| 00:07.57 | cogwheel|work | mmmmrrfmmmrfmhhhmm |
| 00:08.06 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag cogwheel|work |
| 00:08.08 | purl | ACTION tries to kill cogwheel|work, but cogwheel|work finds the shield flag |
| 00:08.18 | Esamynn | !!! |
| 00:08.24 | TC_Working | i am looking at " |
| 00:08.24 | TC_Working | BFG Technologies GeForce 8800GTX Video Card, Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB Hard Drive , Asus Striker Extreme Motherboard , OCZ Technology 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 DIMM Memory Kit X2, WD Caviar SE16 500GB Hard Drive X3, & Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Dual Core Processor" for next month |
| 00:09.41 | Kaso | Any mages with ice barrier about? |
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| 00:14.38 | mahiro | why does the fade in not work here : http://pastey.net/7812 ? |
| 00:16.23 | Kaso | Have you manually Show() the frame before you try to fade it |
| 00:16.33 | Kaso | FadeIn/Out Dont Show/Hide for you |
| 00:16.44 | Kaso | i believe |
| 00:16.51 | mahiro | the frame is shown by default |
| 00:17.50 | cogwheel|work | And you're sure it's those lines that are CAUSING the problem? (you should never make the assumption you know where the problem lies... more context would be helpful) |
| 00:18.08 | cogwheel|work | Have you tried manually issuing those functions via /run? |
| 00:18.31 | cogwheel|work | Is deficit ever < 0? |
| 00:18.34 | cogwheel|work | etc. |
| 00:18.36 | cogwheel|work | etc. |
| 00:19.19 | subbot | I'm trying resize a new chat frame i'm creating, and it won't get smaller than the general chat frame, even though my combat log will :( |
| 00:20.19 | mahiro | no its not, it gets >0 and i checked it with an output and thats not the problem... |
| 00:21.03 | mahiro | if i use fBar:SetAlpha(1) instead of UIFrameFadeIn(fBar, 2, 0.2, 1) it works perfect, but thats not what i need:/ |
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| 00:23.18 | Shikatanai | Do you guys know of any addon that does what Cosmos's Archaeologist does? |
| 00:23.40 | mahiro | shouldn't the fade thing work if the setalpha works? |
| 00:23.44 | TC_Working | umm....cosmos archaeologist does.... |
| 00:23.55 | Kaso | beat me to it :< |
| 00:24.03 | Mike__ | Hello? |
| 00:24.15 | cogwheel|work | hi |
| 00:24.16 | Shikatanai | it puts the health and mana numbers out beside your character and target and party members from the standard UI |
| 00:24.22 | cogwheel|work | yes... |
| 00:24.22 | Shikatanai | hold on i'll show you with a screenshot |
| 00:24.23 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 00:24.26 | cogwheel|work | we know |
| 00:24.30 | Shikatanai | oh ok |
| 00:24.33 | cogwheel|work | why not just use archaeologist? |
| 00:24.34 | Kaso | his point was if you want something like Archaeologist why not use Archaeologist |
| 00:24.43 | Kaso | im too slow today |
| 00:24.47 | Mike__ | Well i managed to figure out IRC |
| 00:24.57 | Shikatanai | because sea and mcom and all those other dependencies break some other things in my addons |
| 00:25.02 | Shikatanai | and i don't feel like sorting it |
| 00:25.24 | Shikatanai | i just want something simple that does the same thing |
| 00:25.33 | Mike__ | I was wondering if i could ask a few UI modding NOOB questions? |
| 00:25.40 | Kaso | i think maybe Mobinfo3 does Shikatanai |
| 00:25.49 | Kaso | ~just ask |
| 00:25.51 | purl | just ask your question - do not ask to ask. when you ask, ask all on one line - tell us what you did, what you saw, and what you expected to see. |
| 00:25.51 | cogwheel|work | Mike__: that's 1 |
| 00:25.52 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 00:26.40 | cogwheel|work | Shikatanai: by "my addons" do you mean ones you've made, or ones you use? |
| 00:27.00 | cogwheel|work | also, I can't imagine what it might conflict with... |
| 00:27.07 | Shikatanai | the ones that i use hehe |
| 00:27.40 | Mike__ | I want to create a macro/Mod that allows me to autoreply to a char. with values from an external lookup table . . so far i have a .TOC LOL but i just need pointers not someone to do it for me |
| 00:27.45 | Shikatanai | somehow it causes ace2 errors in simpleMinimap and Fizzle as well as QuestsFu, and DuraTek - but no other ace2 addons |
| 00:28.30 | cogwheel|work | Mike__: have you tried AutoRespond? |
| 00:28.45 | Mike__ | i havent seen it no . . |
| 00:29.27 | cogwheel|work | i haven't used it for a while... not sure if there's an updated version... |
| 00:29.58 | cogwheel|work | here's one http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2326 |
| 00:30.12 | cogwheel|work | anyway... time to become plain old cogwheel.... |
| 00:30.24 | Mike__ | cool .. thanks .. that was fast |
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| 00:31.12 | Xenok | hhmmm is if ( GetZoneText() == "Durotar" ) then even valid? |
| 00:31.38 | Kaso | Why not |
| 00:31.40 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Mike__ (n=Mike@S0106000d87a684a3.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 00:32.08 | Xenok | wait... hold on .. ima try something |
| 00:33.06 | Xenok | well . i have if ( GetZoneText() == "Durotar" ) then Bookmarks:Hide() end but it won't hide :P |
| 00:33.08 | WobWork | Xenok: possibly only if you're enUS |
| 00:33.20 | Xenok | I am enUS |
| 00:33.34 | WobWork | but your users may not be |
| 00:33.44 | Xenok | hmmmm |
| 00:34.50 | Xenok | well lets see if we can get it working for enUS before we work on anyone else :P |
| 00:35.15 | Shikatanai | yeah but there are built in things you can do so you can avoid having to have 15 localization files and translations for all of them |
| 00:35.32 | Xenok | >< |
| 00:36.11 | Xenok | lets try to figure out why it won't work for me first |
| 00:40.15 | Xenok | I have the following but it won't do anything: if ( GetZoneText() == "Durotar" ) then |
| 00:40.15 | Xenok | Bookmarks:Hide(); |
| 00:40.15 | Xenok | end |
| 00:40.47 | zenzelezz | well, what does GetZoneText() return for you? |
| 00:41.00 | Xenok | umm maybe I should /dumb ... brb |
| 00:41.03 | Xenok | er |
| 00:41.08 | Xenok | dump* |
| 00:41.19 | TC_Working | heh |
| 00:41.47 | Xenok | it gives me [1] = "Durotar" |
| 00:42.47 | zenzelezz | when are you executing the if statement, in response to some event? |
| 00:43.07 | Xenok | <OnClick> to a button |
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| 00:45.27 | Xenok | umm nvm.. I got it to work >< had it in the wrong spot |
| 00:45.34 | Xenok | ty for trying :D |
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| 00:54.12 | Xenok | now I just need to figure out how that fontstrings show differnet things depending on where/when its called >< |
| 00:56.45 | Xenok | hmm does anyone know how to do that? |
| 01:00.46 | Shadowed | Fancy, peoples guild on the forums link to the armory now |
| 01:00.53 | Shadowed | same with there character |
| 01:01.15 | Xenok | cool |
| 01:02.19 | Xenok | does anyone know how I can show differnent things in fonstrings depending on when/where they are called? |
| 01:04.47 | Xenok | I.e. I want to use the same fonstrings to show differnt things when they are shown through a dropdown menu |
| 01:05.25 | Kaso | Hmm, armory is very interesting |
| 01:06.31 | Xenok | can anyone help me? |
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| 01:08.57 | sysrage | is there any way to automatically put mage pet on passive as soon as it's summoned? stupid thing has been attacking stuff i don't tell it to attack lately and breaking shackles and such |
| 01:12.14 | Xenok | shirik is the most helpful to me :P but even shirik isn't brave enough to deal with me .. |
| 01:12.29 | Kaso | Isnt the mage pet just a guardian, it doesnt have pet controlls like normal pets ? |
| 01:12.42 | Shikatanai | no it has controls |
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| 01:13.26 | Xenok | shirik if you can can you help me? |
| 01:13.34 | sysrage | i can hit passive soon as i summon, but that's annoying. is there no way to macro it? |
| 01:15.57 | XenokIsInNeedOfH | gah |
| 01:16.00 | Nom- | Kaso: The mage pet is a proper pet which just dies after 30 seconds |
| 01:16.16 | Kaso | Xenok, /petpassive |
| 01:16.32 | Mike__ | I need LOTS of help with a macro/mod idea |
| 01:16.34 | Xenok | lol you mean sysrage? |
| 01:17.01 | Xenok | like a request mike? |
| 01:17.30 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/Stormscale/Innominate.png <-- *evilgrin* |
| 01:17.46 | Nom- | Substitute Stormscale with your real, and Innomiante with your character name :) |
| 01:17.49 | Mike__ | yeah . . . i dont have the time to learn how to XML right now |
| 01:17.54 | Nom- | s/real/realm/ |
| 01:18.03 | Nom- | blah can't spell at all |
| 01:18.04 | Xenok | ah |
| 01:18.25 | Xenok | no cool pic of your toon? :P |
| 01:18.26 | Kaso | Mike__ is it that replier thing you were talking about ealier |
| 01:18.26 | Nom- | The image is kinda crappy at the moment, but I plan to improve it |
| 01:18.31 | Nom- | Need some artwork |
| 01:18.34 | Xenok | ahh |
| 01:18.42 | Mike__ | yeah . .auto respond wont work for it |
| 01:18.56 | Kaso | Refresh my memory |
| 01:19.16 | Nom- | Armory is surprisingly quick when you don't go through the frontend :) |
| 01:19.22 | Nom- | That data comes through pretty quick |
| 01:19.42 | Guillotine | Blizz site is probably being hammered. I mean, how many people have spidered it? |
| 01:19.43 | Xenok | http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/Thrall/Hatado.png <-- my main (sorta) http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/Thrall/Xeekkcnook.png <--my mage awsome nom |
| 01:20.05 | Kaso | I downloaded 12,000 items XML files tonight from armory |
| 01:20.07 | Xenok | just need a better layout and stuff |
| 01:20.09 | Mike__ | i want a way for someone to whisper me a "catchphase" and have myself auto respond with the data assoiated to that persons name in a lookup table |
| 01:20.28 | Nom- | It will *probably* fall over if you try and load a character which has 1 or 0 professions |
| 01:20.39 | Xenok | ohhh Mike__ kinda like the gem list? |
| 01:20.42 | Nom- | It's not made very robust, but that's something i'll work on |
| 01:20.55 | sysrage | kaso: i can make macro that summons then does /petpassive? sweet ty |
| 01:20.55 | Xenok | awosme nom- I plan to use one :D |
| 01:21.01 | Nom- | If anyone likes and wants to work on some artwork, I can make it all perty and stuff ^_^ |
| 01:21.13 | Kaso | okay, so you need to 1) Register CHAT_MSG_WHSIPER 2) onevent check the table 3) Respond with SendChatMessage |
| 01:21.15 | Guillotine | Nom: could you put spec on there? |
| 01:21.23 | Xenok | OH I can try! like a background? |
| 01:21.26 | Nom- | Guillotine: Yeah, I can :) |
| 01:21.29 | Mike__ | yeah but its for dkp .. some one askes me and i can auto respond to it . .thats it no other DKP functions |
| 01:21.34 | Guillotine | Nom: like just X/Y/Z |
| 01:21.36 | Kaso | How much help do you need Mike__ i could throw you some code. |
| 01:21.57 | Mike__ | i have a .toc file . . .so help is good |
| 01:22.25 | Nom- | Guillotine: I'll put in the spec name too...whichever one has more points in it...same as Armory itself does |
| 01:22.26 | Xenok\makingart | ill try to make a background nom |
| 01:22.32 | Guillotine | Nom: nice |
| 01:22.32 | Nom- | Xenok\makingart: Okies :) |
| 01:22.48 | Kaso | Mike__ gimme couple mins, ill shout you when ive got something |
| 01:22.57 | Guillotine | Mak, why are you in Gart? |
| 01:23.03 | Mike__ | Awesome! tahnks much |
| 01:23.10 | Xenok\makingart | Gimp art program is my friend :D |
| 01:23.24 | Guillotine | gimp art? is that different from normal gimp? |
| 01:23.33 | Xenok\makingart | no I just call it gimp art |
| 01:23.36 | Xenok\makingart | its the exact same |
| 01:24.57 | Guillotine | <3 GIMP |
| 01:25.01 | Xenok\makingart | me too :D |
| 01:25.11 | Guillotine | GIMP + Blender = awesome freeness |
| 01:25.19 | Xenok\makingart | I can't use Blender that well XD |
| 01:25.25 | Xenok\makingart | 3d is hard |
| 01:25.41 | Guillotine | I'm not that great either, but I can make simple effects to put behind my 2d art |
| 01:25.50 | Xenok\makingart | cool |
| 01:26.01 | Guillotine | nothing like those renders some people have |
| 01:26.04 | TC_Working | if anyone playes with terragen, they came out with what equivilates to a demo for terragen 2 |
| 01:26.29 | Nom- | Armory is the best thing ever implimented onto WoW's web site IMHO :D |
| 01:26.37 | TC_Working | i started a render and after 8 hrs i was only 10% done :( |
| 01:30.21 | Kaso | Mike__ http://www.pastey.net/7818 that is roughly what you want |
| 01:30.46 | sysrage | kaso: making a macro that summons pet, then does /petpassive doesn't work :( any other ideas? |
| 01:30.50 | Mike__ | cool thanks |
| 01:31.04 | Kaso | maybe petfollow? that stops it attacking i think |
| 01:31.33 | Nom- | got spec, just working on text |
| 01:31.36 | Nom- | positioning |
| 01:31.39 | Guillotine | Kaso: lrn2spell"response" |
| 01:31.51 | Guillotine | :P |
| 01:32.10 | Nom- | I'll need to put some more code logic in place to handle the spec name, since it's not explicitly stated in the data from armory :( |
| 01:32.15 | Xenok\makingart | Nom- what is the picture type you need png jpeg what? |
| 01:32.48 | Xenok\makingart | for the Background |
| 01:33.12 | Kaso | Mike__ if you have any troubles with that youve got about 5min to ask me before i go sleep |
| 01:33.19 | bleetah | next person I see spelling reagent as a synonym for 'monarch'.. I'm gunna stab |
| 01:33.19 | Xenok\makingart | oh png duh |
| 01:33.36 | Mike__ | kk |
| 01:34.04 | Xenok\makingart | Nom- does it need to be named background.png or something? |
| 01:34.08 | Nom- | Xenok\makingart: Anything works |
| 01:34.15 | Xenok\makingart | ok |
| 01:34.23 | Nom- | Doesn't matter what it's called, the package i'm using can open just about any image fomrat |
| 01:34.29 | Xenok\makingart | aight |
| 01:35.07 | Mike__ | Kaso Is there a way to use a .txt file as a table? |
| 01:35.20 | Kaso | Sorta, but not how you want it i think |
| 01:35.28 | Kaso | you need to use a saved variable for that |
| 01:35.46 | Mike__ | well the data in the table will change every couple of days |
| 01:35.47 | Kaso | well |
| 01:36.05 | Xenok\makingart | Nom- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/cortez1212/Nom.png |
| 01:36.16 | Kaso | the table in the txt will have to be a correctly formatted lua table, how do you have it at the moment |
| 01:36.17 | Xenok\makingart | see if that works if not .. ill make another |
| 01:36.21 | Xenok\makingart | :D |
| 01:36.49 | Mike__ | just data1 data2 |
| 01:37.13 | Nom- | just rebooted the production one...it should show the spec now |
| 01:37.18 | Nom- | Not the name yet tho |
| 01:37.38 | Xenok\makingart | hehe im 0/0/40 |
| 01:37.44 | Xenok\makingart | frost ftw |
| 01:38.14 | Xenok\makingart | Nom- does that Background work? ill just remake if it doesn't :) |
| 01:38.17 | Kaso | if you want to easily import that into the game you have two opitions a)make a editbox in game you paste the datastring into then the addon parses the data. b) properly format the file when you generate the txt, then use it as a savedvariable or just a standard addon lua file |
| 01:38.30 | Kaso | where is the data from? is it a web application youve written? |
| 01:38.46 | Mike__ | from a web page . .just copy/pasted over |
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| 01:39.29 | Kaso | Then you'll have to use the editbox method, which is a fair old chunk of coding, which im too tired to do at the moment |
| 01:39.33 | Nom- | Xenok\makingart: works, need to paly with colours tho |
| 01:39.40 | Nom- | I'll reboot prod again so you can see it |
| 01:39.46 | Xenok\makingart | you or me? |
| 01:40.02 | Nom- | done |
| 01:40.06 | Mike__ | thankas very much for what you gave me! ill work on and see what i can devolop |
| 01:40.20 | Xenok\makingart | eep your right hehe .. should i have made a border too? |
| 01:40.55 | Nom- | I might have to output that as a different format too |
| 01:41.00 | Nom- | png is huge with the background lol |
| 01:41.08 | Xenok\makingart | yeah hehe |
| 01:41.24 | Xenok\makingart | its just alot of detail |
| 01:41.51 | Xenok\makingart | prolly should make the Level of the toon in black |
| 01:42.04 | Kaso | Mike__ my advice is to focus on writing some code that can parse the tab seperated list into the lua table. |
| 01:43.36 | Nom- | There we go, converting to jpeg now |
| 01:43.39 | Xenok\makingart | aight |
| 01:43.45 | Nom- | <3 image manipulation packages ^_^ |
| 01:43.50 | Xenok\makingart | hehe |
| 01:44.27 | Xenok\makingart | yeah.. make the Level in the top right corner black. and the guild should be umm medium green? |
| 01:44.49 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Mike__ (n=Mike@S0106000d87a684a3.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 01:45.24 | Nom- | guild is now black |
| 01:45.28 | Nom- | err level i mean |
| 01:45.51 | Nom- | can't really read any of the text lol |
| 01:46.10 | Xenok\makingart | lol yeah. too bright |
| 01:46.37 | Xenok\makingart | should I remake? any color prefs? |
| 01:46.51 | Nom- | I'm actually tempted |
| 01:46.59 | Xenok\makingart | O.o |
| 01:47.04 | Nom- | There was some backgrounds on another site |
| 01:47.09 | Xenok\makingart | lol |
| 01:47.13 | Nom- | Made for sigs about this size |
| 01:47.23 | Xenok\makingart | whats the site? |
| 01:48.13 | Nom- | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/sigmaker.php?charid=51107412 |
| 01:48.19 | Nom- | wrong size, but those backgrounds are awesome :) |
| 01:48.57 | Xenok\makingart | oh wow .. I could never compete with that XD |
| 01:48.59 | Nom- | could make one for every race |
| 01:49.09 | Nom- | lol they're actually pretty simple |
| 01:49.18 | Xenok\makingart | just screenies |
| 01:49.20 | Nom- | They've just taken a screenshot and done a fade |
| 01:49.42 | Xenok\makingart | oo I know how to do that XD |
| 01:49.48 | Nom- | or in some cases taken actual wow art |
| 01:49.53 | Xenok\makingart | I saw |
| 01:50.14 | Xenok\makingart | murloc! lol |
| 01:50.43 | Nom- | Maybe I should like take a trip to all the major cities and find some nice screenies |
| 01:50.43 | Nom- | Trolls/Orcs get Orgrimmar, Undead get UC etc |
| 01:50.43 | Nom- | Coz I can (very) easily load a different background for each race |
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| 01:50.54 | Xenok\makingart | yeah.. if you need editing I will try to help :D |
| 01:52.23 | Nom- | the other option i was thinking of was a wow-style UI thing |
| 01:52.41 | Xenok\makingart | like a frame almost? |
| 01:52.42 | Nom- | with slots for the different icons..so a 'hole' for each profession and class/race/faction etc |
| 01:52.48 | Nom- | yeah |
| 01:52.53 | Xenok\makingart | that would be sick |
| 01:52.56 | Xenok\makingart | go for it |
| 01:52.59 | Nom- | If I wasn't so hopeless with photoshop :) |
| 01:53.03 | Xenok\makingart | lol |
| 01:53.10 | Xenok\makingart | I can with gimp :P |
| 01:53.10 | Nom- | But i'll see what I can do :) |
| 01:53.28 | Xenok\makingart | just might take a while but Ican |
| 01:54.45 | Nom- | There's really not a lot you couldn't do with that...if you get a nice layout you can make it look any way you like |
| 01:54.50 | Xenok\makingart | just take a screenie of a frame you make :P |
| 01:55.06 | Xenok\makingart | make a frame that will look like what you want for you background.. and screenie it |
| 01:55.32 | Nom- | I thought about making this all configurable too, but there's really no way to identify a character |
| 01:56.30 | Xenok | well all I know is that I need help with getting a fonstring to show different text depending on where/when/how its called >< |
| 01:58.38 | Xenok | Shirik you busy? |
| 01:58.43 | Xenok | lol |
| 02:00.08 | Nom- | xlnt....the caching is working flawlessly :) |
| 02:00.29 | Xenok | nom- can YOU help me? |
| 02:00.30 | Nom- | I'm so proud of this code *tear* |
| 02:00.51 | Nom- | I dunno :/ |
| 02:01.03 | Nom- | I'm not actually a UI programmer (yet)... :/ |
| 02:01.09 | Xenok | darn :P |
| 02:01.11 | Nom- | I just hang around to be with the cool kids |
| 02:01.20 | Xenok | lol |
| 02:01.33 | Nom- | And when I get bored occasionally code something like the sigmaker :P |
| 02:01.44 | Xenok | hehe I see |
| 02:01.54 | Xenok | and shiriks popups arn't working >< |
| 02:02.51 | Nom- | So from what I understand though, you're trying to render *some* text in a different font ? |
| 02:03.16 | Xenok | uhh |
| 02:03.43 | Nom- | FontInstance:SetFont("path", height[,"flags"]) - Sets the font to use for text, returns 1 if the path was valid, nil otherwise (no change occurs). |
| 02:03.49 | Xenok | I want the same fonstring to show differnt things like.. it says one thing. then I open another frame and use the same fonstring to display somting else |
| 02:04.07 | Nom- | FontString:SetText("text") - Set the displayed text. ? |
| 02:04.22 | JoshBorke | hopefully not at the same time |
| 02:04.27 | Xenok | right |
| 02:04.38 | Xenok | hide it and show it again with differnt text |
| 02:04.56 | Nom- | Ok, i think i know what you mean |
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| 02:05.08 | Nom- | You want a tooltip type effect on a single text string |
| 02:05.27 | Nom- | You'd need to put it in an event on the frame activate event |
| 02:05.30 | Xenok | I will need that just later |
| 02:05.42 | Nom- | ie. each frame will have to set the text |
| 02:05.42 | Xenok | let me explain in ful: |
| 02:06.32 | Xenok | I have a dropdown of the 3 continents.. It then displays each zone. I have that working .. but .. I need it so that I can use the fonstring to show differnt text when I select a zone .. I don't want to make 8 fonstrings for each zone :P |
| 02:07.26 | Xenok | and I want that tooltip thing later on |
| 02:07.52 | sysrage | neither /petpassive or /petfollow work :( |
| 02:08.10 | Xenok | cuz water elementals arn't really pets :P |
| 02:08.10 | Nom- | ah...yeah..you'd need to SetText() them I believe |
| 02:08.26 | sysrage | they are really pets! |
| 02:08.26 | Xenok | BUT nom- |
| 02:08.33 | Xenok | oh |
| 02:08.37 | Xenok | anway.. nom- |
| 02:08.50 | Xenok | I use the settext to display a variable |
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| 02:09.35 | Xenok | soo I want to display another varraible in the same fonstring and get rid of the old variable when I select a differnt zone.. if that makes sence |
| 02:09.50 | Xenok | well wait |
| 02:10.08 | Xenok | I just want to select a zone in a dropdown and it will change the text to something else :P |
| 02:11.03 | Xenok | I am hard to deal with :P |
| 02:14.20 | Xenok | nom-? you there? |
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| 02:15.48 | Xenok | I think I scared Nom- away >< |
| 02:16.15 | Nom- | sorta |
| 02:16.18 | Nom- | i'm coding :) |
| 02:16.30 | Xenok | I thought your where helpin me? |
| 02:18.28 | Nom- | where i can :) |
| 02:19.08 | Nom- | Well from what I understand of the WoW LUA objects, they can't exist in two states |
| 02:19.26 | Nom- | Bascially you're going to have to update the existing objects based on the currently active option |
| 02:19.59 | Nom- | ie. When someone mouse-overs Outland, you're going to need to loop through the elements and set them explicitly to the Outland versions |
| 02:20.15 | Xenok | eep |
| 02:22.01 | wereHamster | Nom-, how do I find out my char ID (for the warcraftrealms sigmaker)? |
| 02:22.30 | Nom- | wereHamster: There's a search option back a couple of pages |
| 02:23.15 | Nom- | The problem with WarcraftRealms is that it's based off their database |
| 02:23.18 | Xenok | hehe http://science.howstuffworks.com/ninja.htm |
| 02:23.24 | Nom- | Whereas the one i'm working on is based off Armory's database |
| 02:25.20 | wereHamster | Nom-, thanks :) |
| 02:25.31 | Nom- | That's actually why I coded up that sig maker |
| 02:25.38 | Nom- | For armory :) |
| 02:25.44 | Nom- | to read from armory at least |
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| 02:27.34 | Xenok | Nom- before I said "eep" do you know how to do that? |
| 02:28.51 | wereHamster | But who were the real ninja? Where did they come from, and what purpose did they serve? - reminds me of the whale that was falling down from the sky in THGTTG |
| 02:29.28 | Xenok | LOL you clicked that link? |
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| 02:29.51 | Xenok | I never saw all of THGTTG |
| 02:30.08 | Xenok | wanted to but was to involved in coding XD |
| 02:30.23 | [dRaCo] | the movie sucks big time, but the books rock. |
| 02:30.24 | wereHamster | THGTTG is _soo_ much better than coding |
| 02:30.33 | Xenok | lol |
| 02:30.47 | Xenok | did they ever find 42? |
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| 02:31.14 | Xenok | or was 42 marvin? |
| 02:32.20 | Xenok | since marvin was always saying things like "whats the point?" I think marvin was 42 O.o |
| 02:32.26 | [dRaCo] | marvin is just a depressive robot. |
| 02:32.32 | Xenok | aight |
| 02:32.40 | Nom- | no, i don't Xenok :( |
| 02:32.46 | Xenok | figures :( |
| 02:33.35 | Nom- | I'm so impressed with how quickly those images are rendered :) |
| 02:33.55 | Xenok | LOL my cat stands on his hind legs and moves the blinds with his right paw like a human |
| 02:34.08 | Nom- | Those images from my sigmaker are rendered on the fly |
| 02:34.14 | Xenok | yeah |
| 02:34.32 | Nom- | There's caching of the data from Armory, but nothing else :) |
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| 02:36.21 | Mike__ | immm baaackkkkkkk |
| 02:36.25 | Xenok | lol |
| 02:36.41 | Mike__ | http://www.pastey.net/7818?hi= |
| 02:37.07 | Mike__ | anyone tell me why that wont work? ( changed the "myaddonsname and the like" |
| 02:38.29 | Xenok | I don't know much about the way you made things in that script.. did you copy that from some tutorial? |
| 02:38.33 | Xenok | so your trying to code the whole addon in lua? |
| 02:38.34 | Mike__ | nah it was made for me eral quick by someone who signed off |
| 02:38.42 | Mike__ | yeah |
| 02:38.44 | Xenok | kaso? |
| 02:38.49 | Mike__ | thats the guys |
| 02:38.53 | Mike__ | *guy |
| 02:38.57 | Xenok | but why all in lua? :P |
| 02:39.04 | Mike__ | fast and easy? |
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| 02:39.22 | Xenok | hmm |
| 02:39.33 | Nom- | Mike__: You might need to run Regular Expression checks, rather than a straight match |
| 02:39.47 | Nom- | Mike__: Otherwise whitespace and capitalization will break it |
| 02:40.03 | Xenok | oh I might know.. lemme edit a lil |
| 02:40.04 | Mike__ | how would i change that? |
| 02:40.09 | Mike__ | go nuts! |
| 02:40.27 | Nom- | Mike__: You'd need to loop through each of the keys in exampleTable and check if arg1 contains that |
| 02:41.07 | Mike__ | kk im new to lua but i listen well .. how do i runa loop? |
| 02:41.23 | Nom- | Mike__: Have a look at the code for GemList...it does searching through a table |
| 02:41.37 | Xenok | first off ... look at the changes in the highlighted lines http://www.pastey.net/7824 |
| 02:41.52 | Xenok | I think Idid tha right |
| 02:42.02 | Xenok | maybe not |
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| 02:43.06 | Xenok | I dunno |
| 02:43.34 | Xenok | you need to call line 8 somhow |
| 02:43.42 | Xenok | but in lua I don't know how. in XML I can help |
| 02:43.43 | Mike__ | Well the Caps and whitespce thing is an issue cause ppl might cap stuff the tell me |
| 02:43.59 | Nom- | I believe the code for GemList is going to point you in the right direction through |
| 02:44.05 | Nom- | It has whiper triggering of searches |
| 02:44.06 | Xenok | or enchant list |
| 02:44.16 | Nom- | ie. /tell Player !gemlist int |
| 02:44.31 | Xenok | or /t player !gems red |
| 02:44.38 | Nom- | indeed |
| 02:44.45 | Xenok | I use enchant list |
| 02:44.53 | Mike__ | thats what im looking for |
| 02:45.05 | Xenok | you can't find it? |
| 02:45.12 | Mike__ | no . . . |
| 02:45.27 | Xenok | http://ui.worldofwar.net/listuis.php?searchtext=gemlist |
| 02:45.28 | Nom- | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6820-GemList.html |
| 02:45.32 | Xenok | lol beta you |
| 02:45.39 | Xenok | by less than a second |
| 02:45.48 | Nom- | Except I gave the direct link :) |
| 02:45.48 | Xenok | beat* |
| 02:45.51 | Xenok | oh fine |
| 02:46.15 | Mike__ | LOL ilike it here |
| 02:46.36 | Xenok | I use enchant list so they like do /t xeekkcnook !ench weapon or /t xeekkcnook !ench stam |
| 02:46.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Satan Attacks Little Church!! http://i6.tinypic.com/2hpod9j.jpg |
| 02:47.14 | Xenok | but the downside is that they list alllll the weapons including lesser .. greater and stuff of the exact same chant |
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| 02:47.24 | Xenok | OMG KIRK |
| 02:47.41 | Xenok | wait.. thats a solar eclipse :P |
| 02:47.43 | Mike__ | well this is for anyone to whisp me and get thier dkp point whisped back |
| 02:48.06 | Xenok | I don't know much about the dkp system |
| 02:48.20 | Nom- | Here's a snippet from GemList that should cover what you're after, Mike__ |
| 02:48.21 | Nom- | http://wowi.pastey.net/7825 |
| 02:48.26 | Mike__ | well its just a list of names and numbers |
| 02:48.52 | Mike__ | thanks |
| 02:48.57 | Nom- | Mike__: There's a couple of mods out there already to handle DKP |
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| 02:49.43 | Nom- | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6629-MorgDKP.html |
| 02:49.54 | Mike__ | yeah but they are too much for our little group .. . right now its about 200 rotateing players in several diffrent instances |
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| 02:50.33 | Xenok | does ANYONE know how to have a fonstring display differnt text depending on when/where it is called to show? |
| 02:51.06 | Xenok | wait.. i thought you can only hve 40 people in a raid: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full6253.jpg |
| 02:51.18 | Nom- | Well there are definately some mods out there which already handle DKP...some are as simple as giving ingame access to DKP lists right up to integrated roll and pass stuff |
| 02:51.31 | Kirkburn|afk | For all the cat owners out there! http://www.funnyanimalvideos.com/cat-videos/kitten-vs-toilet-paper/ |
| 02:51.37 | Nom- | Xenok: Probably counts people where were in the raid and left |
| 02:51.40 | Nom- | Or soemthing like that |
| 02:51.43 | Xenok | oh prolly |
| 02:51.44 | Mike__ | yeah but MC one day might only have have 3 common players on day two |
| 02:52.12 | Nom- | Mike__: Well if it's not a *proper* dkp you're after, have a look at the Karma system |
| 02:52.15 | Nom- | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6487-NiKarmaSystem.html |
| 02:55.14 | Mike__ | also the biggest problem is that no one person is going to be able to have these mods because they might go afk for weeks and someone else will be doing loot . . .i was hoping for a system that allows a copy/paste of the list and then anyone can use it |
| 02:55.44 | Nom- | well as far as i know, NKS works in conjunction with a web site |
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| 02:56.20 | Mike__ | as of jan 7 the site is down : ( |
| 02:56.42 | Nom- | http://www.knights-who-say-ni.com/NKS/ |
| 02:56.59 | Nom- | It has a PHP script which works along with the ingame mod |
| 02:57.19 | Nom- | So from what I see, it's kind of a combination between DKP and /roll results |
| 02:57.34 | Nom- | So player 1 has 50 Karma and /roll 1, their roll is counted as 51 |
| 02:57.53 | Mike__ | ah .reading sit e now |
| 02:58.04 | Nom- | Player 2 has -50 karma and /roll 100 their roll is counted as 50 |
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| 03:20.03 | Xenok | hey mike: would this be you? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5052&highlight=text |
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| 03:20.22 | Xenok | I was searching text and found it :P |
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| 03:22.46 | Xenok | does ANYONE know how to have a fonstring display differnt text depending on when/where it is called to show? |
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| 03:24.12 | wereHamster | define when/where |
| 03:25.36 | Xenok | like.. I show the same fonstring after selecting a dropdown.. I want the text that shows up from the dropdown to change |
| 03:26.17 | Xenok | 209:039:5010) 10(90Xenok10) I want the same fonstring to show differnt things like.. it says one thing. then I open another frame and use the same fonstring to display somting else |
| 03:26.51 | Xenok | and the fontstrings don't show at the same time of course |
| 03:27.12 | wereHamster | :SetText() ? |
| 03:27.20 | Garoun | for spell damage which would you all prefer: Spell Penetration or Crit? |
| 03:28.13 | Garoun | or a mixture of both |
| 03:28.14 | Xenok | wellll wereham.. I have it to show a variable that I save manualy and I want it to show a differnet variable that I save at a differnt time. but it just replaces the old with the new |
| 03:28.16 | Nom- | depedns on class spec |
| 03:28.25 | Garoun | shadow priest |
| 03:28.43 | Nom- | Probably a mix of both |
| 03:28.54 | Nom- | If you were a frost mage for instance, you'd want to be stacking crit |
| 03:29.00 | Nom- | But you still want *some* spell penetration |
| 03:29.04 | Garoun | it penetration strictly lower resistance for hitting or does it effect damage as well? |
| 03:29.08 | Garoun | is even |
| 03:29.16 | wereHamster | the only way you can change the text of a fontstring is :SetText() ... |
| 03:29.49 | Xenok | umm ok. |
| 03:30.37 | Garoun | can't really find any info on it, and the description is rather generic :P |
| 03:31.07 | Nom- | Bascially it negates some amount of spell resist |
| 03:31.15 | Nom- | I don't think anyone has determined the formulae yet |
| 03:31.31 | Garoun | yeah, can't find it on the wiki |
| 03:31.36 | Nom- | But basically you can partly resist a spell |
| 03:32.06 | Nom- | Spell penetration is means to reduce the targets resistance, so you could have a partial resist which does more damage than it otherwise would have, or doesn't get resisted at all |
| 03:32.24 | Garoun | ok, so it 'can' effect damage of the spell |
| 03:32.35 | Nom- | I *beleive* it works similarly to the old "Reduces your targets chance to resist your spells by X%" |
| 03:32.52 | Nom- | Yeah, but it only affects damage reduction through resistance |
| 03:33.15 | Nom- | As a shadow priest, you probably want a balance to some degree |
| 03:33.24 | Nom- | You don't want them resisting your VE etc |
| 03:33.53 | Garoun | aka the portion that would otherwise be resisted with have some of that go through "maybe"? |
| 03:34.23 | Nom- | yeah..basically it should be reducing the chance of a partial or complete resists |
| 03:34.37 | Nom- | or potentially recusing the amount that is partially resisted |
| 03:34.47 | Esamynn|Busy | but only if the target has resistance to that spell school in the first place |
| 03:34.55 | Esamynn|Busy | if their resistance is 0, then it has no effect |
| 03:34.59 | Garoun | good point esa |
| 03:35.10 | Garoun | I remember the no negative resist stuff |
| 03:35.23 | Nom- | yeah, but the chances are, in PvP and PvE that they will always have some resist |
| 03:35.35 | Garoun | especially if they are undead :P |
| 03:35.40 | Nom- | PvP most people will have above 0 but below 100 |
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| 03:48.36 | _Grem_ | Does anyone happen to know the name of the UI frame for the confirm item destroy? |
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| 03:49.06 | Mike__ | me again |
| 03:49.06 | Kirkburn|afk | _Grem_, boo! ;) |
| 03:49.06 | _Grem_ | ? |
| 03:50.12 | _Grem_ | Does noone know? =/ |
| 03:50.26 | Cide | check it out yourself |
| 03:50.35 | Esamynn|Busy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.41 | _Grem_ | I tried finding it Cide |
| 03:50.48 | Esamynn|Busy | if you don't have DevTools installed, then shame on you |
| 03:50.49 | Cide | then you haven't used /dtframestack :) |
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| 03:51.18 | _Grem_ | What is /dtframestack? |
| 03:51.21 | Mike__ | I need a hand (again) LOL |
| 03:51.28 | Mike__ | http://wowi.pastey.net/7826-iqz6 |
| 03:51.37 | Esamynn|Busy | _Grem_: do you have DevTools? |
| 03:51.46 | _Grem_ | No |
| 03:51.55 | _Grem_ | Where do I get it? |
| 03:51.57 | Esamynn|Busy | ~shame _Grem_ |
| 03:52.02 | purl | Shame on you _Grem_! |
| 03:52.03 | _Grem_ | =/ |
| 03:52.17 | Xenok | hehe search it on wowinterface.com |
| 03:52.30 | Cairenn|afk | ~devtools |
| 03:52.32 | purl | rumour has it, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta |
| 03:52.54 | Xenok | whats the matter Mike? |
| 03:53.13 | Mike__ | i cant get this code to fuction at all |
| 03:53.18 | Cairenn|afk | purl, no, devtools is <reply>Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 03:53.20 | purl | okay, Cairenn|afk |
| 03:53.23 | Xenok | is there an error? |
| 03:53.32 | Mike__ | no error just not working |
| 03:53.38 | Xenok | hmm |
| 03:55.40 | Mike__ | I have a table all properly formated and i get the idea of looking up a value but i cant get a response |
| 03:55.40 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7827-4960:7826-iqz6 green means added red means takenaway |
| 03:55.40 | _Grem_ | These DevTools are for version 2.0, is that okay? |
| 03:55.41 | Xenok | same for the if under it |
| 03:55.41 | Iriel | Yes |
| 03:55.41 | Mike__ | ah |
| 03:55.41 | Iriel | You just need to check 'load out of date addons' |
| 03:55.41 | _Grem_ | Right |
| 03:55.41 | Mike__ | no thats checked |
| 03:55.56 | Mike__ | how do i add the text that pops up when it loads? |
| 03:55.58 | Mike__ | as a test |
| 03:57.20 | Iriel | Mike__: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hi mom") |
| 03:57.45 | _Grem_ | Is it possible to move the dtframestack tooltip? =P |
| 03:57.55 | Iriel | _Grem_: Mouse over it |
| 03:58.13 | Esamynn|Busy | Iriel: that's mean :P |
| 03:58.17 | _Grem_ | Neat |
| 03:58.21 | _Grem_ | Thanks |
| 03:58.24 | Iriel | Esamynn|Busy: It's the easiest way to move it! |
| 03:58.34 | Esamynn|Busy | Iriel: but you CANNOT mouse over it! ;) |
| 03:58.38 | Esamynn|Busy | it runs away! |
| 03:58.38 | Mike__ | misheruautodkp = CreateFrame("reply","misheruautodkp",UIParent) |
| 03:58.42 | Iriel | Yeah, but it moves. |
| 03:58.43 | Mike__ | is that right? |
| 03:58.51 | Esamynn|Busy | ok ok, bad joke, I admit |
| 03:59.30 | Xenok\away | very bad ;) |
| 03:59.51 | _Grem_ | Cool tool, thanks Iriel |
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| 04:01.29 | Nom- | LOL |
| 04:01.38 | Nom- | Todays' Dilbert reminds me of worknig customer service |
| 04:01.42 | Nom- | http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/ |
| 04:03.11 | Xenok | hehe nom |
| 04:03.26 | Mike__ | default_chat_frame:addmessage("Auto DKP loaded!!") |
| 04:03.26 | Mike__ | so i can put that anywhere in the file? |
| 04:03.35 | Mike__ | cause it isnt popping up |
| 04:03.45 | Xenok | it needs to be: |
| 04:04.07 | Xenok | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Auto DKP loaded!!") |
| 04:04.14 | Xenok | its case sensitive |
| 04:04.18 | Mike__ | ah |
| 04:06.28 | Xenok | did it work? |
| 04:06.33 | Mike__ | sec .. |
| 04:06.42 | Xenok | k |
| 04:06.54 | Mike__ | whats the /command to reload ui? |
| 04:07.04 | Iriel | If you have DevTools installed, /reload |
| 04:07.09 | Iriel | otherwise /script ReloadUI() |
| 04:07.15 | Mike__ | ok cool |
| 04:07.17 | Tain | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.20 | Xenok | didn't know that devtools did that. i have it just didn't know that XD |
| 04:07.47 | Tain | Something also adds /rl. No idea what, but that's what I use now. |
| 04:08.15 | Xenok | this comp does /reload ui but my other doesn't recognize that |
| 04:09.01 | Xenok | I have a macro XD |
| 04:10.54 | Mike__ | i get "" [string " Reloadui()"]:1:attemp to call gloabal 'reloadui' ( a nil value)"" error |
| 04:11.15 | Iriel | Caps caps caps.. ReloadUI() |
| 04:11.17 | Esamynn|Busy | Nom-: pfft, you've been 70 for how long? |
| 04:11.35 | Xenok | hehe just make a macro for /console reloadui |
| 04:11.57 | Xenok | cuz everything in code is case sensitive |
| 04:12.09 | Esamynn|Busy | Nom-: *I* can make the claim of having obtained my Karazhan key before I even hit 70! 8) |
| 04:12.37 | Mike__ | gives me same error? "/script ReloadUi()" right? |
| 04:12.59 | Xenok | just do /console reloadui |
| 04:13.48 | Mike__ | that worked |
| 04:14.18 | Mike__ | still n o msg |
| 04:14.27 | Iriel | Mike__: Reload U I (both caps) () |
| 04:14.32 | Nom- | Esamynn|Busy: umm since 3AM Tuesday morning |
| 04:14.42 | Iriel | Not Reload U i (i small) () |
| 04:14.54 | Mike__ | ah .. .sry still noobish |
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| 04:15.00 | Xenok | no worries .. I am too |
| 04:15.05 | Esamynn|Busy | Nom-: sorry, I was using you as an excuse to brag ;) |
| 04:15.09 | Nom- | I'm already up to getting the key fragments...I did the quests actually AT Karazhan at level 68 |
| 04:15.15 | Mike__ | i got it to reload but no adon loaded msg |
| 04:15.16 | Esamynn|Busy | same |
| 04:15.23 | Xenok | hmm |
| 04:15.33 | Xenok | pasty your code |
| 04:15.38 | Esamynn|Busy | iirc I finished my Black Morass run with 3 bars left to 70 |
| 04:15.45 | Mike__ | all of it or just the chat part? |
| 04:15.53 | Xenok | all of it |
| 04:16.34 | Mike__ | on the other site or in here? |
| 04:16.52 | Xenok | wowi.pasty.net |
| 04:16.58 | Xenok | er |
| 04:17.03 | Xenok | wowi.pastey.net |
| 04:17.06 | Mike__ | http://wowi.pastey.net/7828 |
| 04:17.08 | Mike__ | it there |
| 04:17.31 | Mike__ | Im not sure where arg1 and arg2 come from |
| 04:17.34 | Xenok | just a sec |
| 04:17.44 | Nom- | Yah, I tried to get the key before 70 |
| 04:17.52 | Nom- | Unfortunately my guildmates haven't got uber gear yet |
| 04:18.09 | Nom- | So it was hard to bring a pre-70 on a run to tougher 5-mans |
| 04:18.12 | Xenok | first off. make sure "needed" is after a "--" |
| 04:18.44 | Xenok | let me see hold on |
| 04:18.44 | Mike__ | it just wrapped thats all |
| 04:18.47 | Xenok | oh ok |
| 04:19.46 | Xenok | make sure that the "myaddonname"s are actually replaced by.. the name of your addon |
| 04:19.59 | Mike__ | oops LOl |
| 04:20.09 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:20.18 | Xenok | I do things like that alot too |
| 04:20.38 | Nom- | hmm i guess if i'm going to make my forum sig thing generic, i should have it broken down between EU and US |
| 04:20.40 | Mike__ | i did alot of Qbasic many years ago so its coming back to me |
| 04:20.53 | Xenok | I did NO coding before now :P |
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| 04:21.28 | Xenok | gah.. hold on |
| 04:22.52 | Xenok | try http://wowi.pastey.net/7829 |
| 04:23.40 | Xenok | no hold on |
| 04:23.45 | Mike__ | LOL ok |
| 04:24.04 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7830 and replace the myaddonname with your acutall addon name ;) |
| 04:24.26 | Xenok | theres two of the "myaddonname" |
| 04:24.38 | Mike__ | what about "UIParent" at the top? |
| 04:25.00 | Xenok | leave that!! |
| 04:25.05 | Mike__ | ok |
| 04:25.15 | Xenok | heheh yeah |
| 04:26.39 | Mike__ | didnt go |
| 04:26.56 | Xenok | afk |
| 04:27.04 | Mike__ | will the chat work if theres an error elsewhere? |
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| 04:28.26 | Nom- | Ok, who has a character on the europe servers? :) |
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| 04:29.22 | Ron_Wheeler | hi |
| 04:29.31 | Ron_Wheeler | where is jaina proudmore? |
| 04:29.55 | Nom- | Someone here must have a character on a Euro realm? :/ |
| 04:29.56 | Mike__ | 45,28 Dustwallow |
| 04:30.13 | Zicon | nom-: Yes? |
| 04:30.20 | Nom- | What realm/name ? |
| 04:30.39 | Xenok | ok im back |
| 04:31.50 | Nom- | Not going to haxx you or anything, just need a character to test whether my changes work for characters on the Euro realms :) |
| 04:32.59 | Xenok | Mike: I might have an idea |
| 04:33.02 | Xenok | hold on |
| 04:33.15 | Mike__ | k |
| 04:34.24 | Mike__ | http://wowi.pastey.net/7831 |
| 04:34.27 | Mike__ | current file |
| 04:35.26 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7832 highlighted lines |
| 04:38.25 | Xenok | wtf does attempt to concatenate global mean? |
| 04:38.44 | Nom- | hmmmmmm |
| 04:38.52 | Nom- | the euro version is returning a subset of data |
| 04:38.57 | Mike__ | that you mesed up? |
| 04:39.00 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:39.11 | Xenok | yes but I don't know what conceatenate means |
| 04:39.33 | Mike__ | yay i got an erorr on load!! ( progress) |
| 04:39.37 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:39.44 | Xenok | might be that chat thing |
| 04:40.00 | Mike__ | create frame type unknown "reply" |
| 04:40.04 | Nom- | oh lol |
| 04:40.14 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 04:40.39 | Xenok | I think I messed that part up for ya mike. just a min |
| 04:40.42 | Nom- | yeah...my forum siggy thing falls over for characters who haven't been active for a while |
| 04:41.15 | Xenok | oh I see the prob mike. hold on |
| 04:41.21 | Mike__ | kk |
| 04:42.40 | Xenok | highlighted line of http://wowi.pastey.net/7833 |
| 04:42.49 | Mike-N-Go | Why do you keep pining me!! |
| 04:42.59 | Xenok | not you mike___ |
| 04:43.02 | Mike-N-Go | His name is "Mike__" ! |
| 04:43.07 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:43.16 | Xenok | and yours is mike-N-go |
| 04:43.19 | Xenok | so im not pining YOU |
| 04:43.23 | Xenok | eithter |
| 04:43.32 | Mike__ | how do i change name? |
| 04:43.35 | Mike-N-Go | Red word for me is "Mike" so, you are pining me |
| 04:43.37 | Shirik | type /nick |
| 04:43.45 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.48 | Xenok | there ya go |
| 04:43.50 | Misheru | better mike? |
| 04:43.59 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:44.03 | Misheru | lol |
| 04:44.08 | Xenok | Misheru: did you try that line? |
| 04:44.21 | Misheru | reloading now |
| 04:44.23 | Xenok | k |
| 04:45.28 | Misheru | error . .on the create frame line still |
| 04:45.38 | Xenok | hmm |
| 04:45.48 | Xenok | whats the error? |
| 04:46.23 | Misheru | it says . . . frametyp , name, parent, template |
| 04:46.27 | Misheru | error is usage |
| 04:46.39 | Xenok | pasty your new file |
| 04:46.44 | Xenok | what you have now |
| 04:46.59 | Misheru | kk |
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| 04:47.31 | Misheru | http://wowi.pastey.net/7834 |
| 04:48.22 | Xenok | oh and the { should be ( first off |
| 04:49.01 | Misheru | in line 1? |
| 04:49.04 | Xenok | in all lines |
| 04:49.07 | Xenok | that have { |
| 04:49.15 | Misheru | so no { just ( |
| 04:49.23 | Xenok | right use ( instead |
| 04:49.55 | Misheru | kk all changed |
| 04:50.01 | Xenok | now hold on |
| 04:50.41 | Mike-N-Go | Urgh! |
| 04:52.52 | Xenok | ok .. oh wait |
| 04:53.05 | Misheru | is it the frame type |
| 04:53.09 | Misheru | ? |
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| 04:53.54 | Xenok | no hold on |
| 04:55.42 | Shirik | ‹clones(3): Funkeh``, Funkeh`, Funkeh``_› |
| 04:55.43 | Shirik | o.o |
| 04:55.54 | Xenok | lol |
| 04:56.10 | Xenok | misheru: http://wowi.pastey.net/7835 |
| 04:56.24 | Xenok | I see that too shirik |
| 04:59.35 | Misheru | line 17 Unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 04:59.40 | Xenok | ok |
| 05:00.08 | Xenok | is ( right next to it? |
| 05:00.17 | Misheru | needs a space? |
| 05:00.25 | Xenok | yes |
| 05:00.32 | Xenok | that SHOULD fix it |
| 05:00.39 | Misheru | changed . .reloading |
| 05:00.45 | Xenok | k |
| 05:02.10 | Misheru | oops . reloading afet hitting save this time |
| 05:02.11 | Xenok | lol |
| 05:02.12 | Xenok | everyone does that from time to time |
| 05:02.14 | Misheru | same error |
| 05:02.19 | Misheru | line 17 |
| 05:02.24 | Xenok | ah |
| 05:02.40 | Misheru | if i hacve [ ] do i need commas? |
| 05:02.49 | Misheru | or vice versa? |
| 05:02.56 | Xenok | uhh |
| 05:03.02 | Xenok | no |
| 05:03.04 | Xenok | wait |
| 05:03.08 | Xenok | not at the begining |
| 05:03.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Good druid news! http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/03/06/druids-get-a-hotfixy-gift/ |
| 05:03.56 | Misheru | im lookin at |
| 05:03.56 | Misheru | http://lua-users.org/wiki/TablesTutorial |
| 05:05.08 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 05:05.30 | Xenok | I see that |
| 05:05.49 | Xenok | hold on |
| 05:06.19 | Xenok | I might be able to fix that |
| 05:07.09 | Misheru | changed the ( in lin 17 to { and i get a new error! |
| 05:07.43 | Misheru | line 11 attemp to index global 'f' ( a nil value) |
| 05:07.59 | Xenok | oh yeah |
| 05:08.12 | Xenok | lol change that f to misheruautodkp |
| 05:08.24 | Xenok | was actually about to point that out |
| 05:08.43 | Misheru | kk reloading |
| 05:09.04 | Xenok | and with tables .. try do http://www.lua.org/pil/2.5.html |
| 05:10.05 | Misheru | new error . .line 14 usage SetScript |
| 05:10.11 | Xenok | orly? hold on |
| 05:11.32 | Xenok | hmm |
| 05:12.18 | Xenok | put a space after Auto DKP loaded!!") in line 15 |
| 05:12.56 | Misheru | kk reloading |
| 05:13.02 | Shirik | woah woah woah |
| 05:13.15 | Shirik | lines 14-15... |
| 05:13.18 | Xenok | lol |
| 05:13.19 | Misheru | yes? |
| 05:13.19 | Shirik | don't .. |
| 05:13.36 | Shirik | ok you changed the ( to a { at line 14 right? |
| 05:13.46 | Xenok | he shoulda changed it back |
| 05:13.49 | Shirik | no |
| 05:13.53 | Shirik | er |
| 05:13.54 | Shirik | wait |
| 05:13.54 | Xenok | orly? |
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| 05:13.57 | Xenok | XD |
| 05:13.58 | Shirik | yeah you want { to ( sorry |
| 05:13.59 | Misheru | its a ( right now |
| 05:14.01 | Shirik | good |
| 05:14.05 | Shirik | same on line 15, } needs to be ) |
| 05:14.15 | Iriel | Why are you setting an OnLoad on an already created frame? |
| 05:14.18 | Iriel | It wont DO anything |
| 05:14.18 | Shirik | finally, you need to wrap that function so yo ucan send it a variable |
| 05:14.24 | Shirik | oh, yeah that too |
| 05:14.51 | Shirik | but... you would also need to do change DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Auto DKP loaded!!") to |
| 05:14.56 | Shirik | function() DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Auto DKP loaded!!") end |
| 05:15.18 | Shirik | but like Iriel said, setting OnLoad via SetScript doesn't make any sense |
| 05:15.27 | Xenok | I don't know much on setscript |
| 05:15.32 | Misheru | its to display text on load |
| 05:15.43 | Shirik | right, but if you're using SetScript, then the frame has already been loaded |
| 05:15.57 | Xenok | I thought onload ment on addon load not on frame load |
| 05:16.03 | Shirik | in either case |
| 05:16.10 | Shirik | how can you be in the script if the addon's not yet loaded? |
| 05:16.17 | Xenok | im lost T_T |
| 05:16.25 | Shirik | just think about it for a second |
| 05:16.36 | Shirik | now, you have two options Misheru |
| 05:16.39 | Xenok | that text is just for letting us know |
| 05:16.39 | Iriel | Xenok: It's on frame load (technically it'd be better named OnFinishingFrameCreation) |
| 05:16.40 | Misheru | yeah the addon has to be loaded to run this code |
| 05:16.57 | Xenok | ah |
| 05:17.07 | Shirik | if you want it to display on load, you can either just write it directly into the code (but that might happen too early, I'm not sure about that) |
| 05:17.13 | Shirik | alternatively you can register for one of the startup events |
| 05:17.26 | Misheru | ok |
| 05:17.31 | Xenok | I was wondering why it was at the begining just in the code O.o |
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| 05:17.47 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process |
| 05:17.58 | Xenok | lol didn't know such a page existed |
| 05:18.34 | Misheru | so at the bottom add another event register right .. but whicj one? |
| 05:19.04 | Iriel | Use ADDON_LOADED (and check arg1 == your addon's name) |
| 05:20.35 | Misheru | Ok i added misheruautodkp:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED") at the bottom .. is that right? |
| 05:20.59 | Xenok | Offtopic: how do I make it so that on EACH AND EVERY zone I don't have to addon to this: http://wowi.pastey.net/7838 ? |
| 05:21.19 | Tierrie | Iriel are you going to watch 300? |
| 05:21.56 | Iriel | Tierrie: I've not decided.. if they can sustain the trailer for a whole movie, then I would be inclined to. Chances are I'll wait until DVD |
| 05:22.36 | Iriel | My stack of 'movies to watch' is getting a bit out of hand already, I should concentrate on making it shorter |
| 05:22.36 | Shirik | Xenok: first things first, you should be using the 'elseif' keyword, not 'else ... if' |
| 05:22.42 | Shirik | while functionally equivalent, elseif is cleaner |
| 05:23.09 | Xenok | hmm |
| 05:23.22 | Tierrie | come watch it with us |
| 05:23.56 | Xenok | 300 looks good I guess.. .but considering I havn't watched the whole trailer and im only 15 >.> |
| 05:24.26 | Xenok | shirik: ill get to work on that |
| 05:25.19 | Shirik | without trying to touch it up, this is what it should look like: http://wowi.pastey.net/7841 |
| 05:25.29 | Shirik | the nice thing is that you get to delete all of those excess "end"s that are now highlighted |
| 05:25.47 | Xenok | cool |
| 05:28.23 | Xenok | ok got that done |
| 05:28.47 | Xenok | now how do I make it so that I don't have to make a whole tree for each zone? |
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| 05:30.42 | Xenok | shirik: is that even possible? |
| 05:31.06 | Xenok | I don't want to make my lua file 300 miles long |
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| 05:31.37 | Xenok | miles . not lines... miles |
| 05:33.31 | Iriel | xenok why does it have to have the zone in it at all? |
| 05:34.04 | Xenok | I have it so that.. the fontstring will be different for each zone that selected in my dropdown menu |
| 05:34.25 | Iriel | But the code is no different is it? |
| 05:34.48 | Xenok | yes it is "coordX" compaired to "coordX2" |
| 05:34.59 | Xenok | I have to make a whole new variable also >< |
| 05:35.00 | Garoun | yay for druid hotfixes :) |
| 05:35.02 | Iriel | Why are you storing it that way? |
| 05:35.09 | Iriel | Why not just a table keyed by the zone name? |
| 05:35.20 | Xenok | >< |
| 05:35.26 | Xenok | im a r-tard |
| 05:35.35 | Xenok | would that be simpler? |
| 05:35.52 | Iriel | Without the rest of your code it's hard to say, but that'd be the right approach if you have zone specific data |
| 05:36.27 | Xenok | my addon is supposed to catagorize saved coords into the right section ina dropdown |
| 05:36.46 | Xenok | soo that could acutally help |
| 05:37.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I hope this post is interesting or informative! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5114.0 |
| 05:39.18 | Xenok | Iriel: when I use the print function of a table.. is there a way to make it print on the fonstring? there would have to be |
| 05:39.38 | Kirkburn|afk | I just noticed I posted that link on the wrong channel ^^ |
| 05:39.40 | Iriel | I'm not sure what you mean by that |
| 05:39.56 | Xenok | hmm |
| 05:40.09 | Xenok | wiat |
| 05:40.39 | Xenok | how would I use tables to display fontstrings? |
| 05:40.45 | Xenok | I thought I understood that |
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| 05:42.15 | Xenok | I guess I don't |
| 05:42.39 | Iriel | Xenok: Maybe answer some different questions, that may help |
| 05:42.50 | Iriel | Xenok: Why do you pass self, event, and ... into your function ify ou never use them? |
| 05:43.04 | Iriel | Xenok: Why isn't it just function savecoords(coordX, coordY) |
| 05:43.05 | Iriel | then you can do |
| 05:43.11 | Iriel | savecoords(bookmarksaving()) |
| 05:43.16 | Iriel | or savecoords(bookmarksaving2()) |
| 05:43.25 | Xenok | hmm |
| 05:43.59 | Xenok | I don't know .. |
| 05:44.03 | Iriel | or, if they'er set up as methods (I dont know what kind of addon this is) function savecoords(self, coordX, coordY) and whatever:savecoords(bookmarksaving()) |
| 05:44.04 | Xenok | >< |
| 05:44.06 | Iriel | Secondly |
| 05:44.12 | Iriel | You dont need all of those ifs |
| 05:44.18 | Xenok | orly? |
| 05:44.31 | Iriel | You could just do it in a loop, outside of your function have something like: |
| 05:45.01 | Iriel | local EDIT_FIELDS = { "Bookmarks", "noteedit2", "noteedit3', "noteedit4", "noteedit5", "noteedit6", "noteedit7", "noteedit8" } |
| 05:45.02 | Iriel | then do |
| 05:45.52 | Iriel | for i, name in ipairs(EDIT_FIELDS) do local field = getglobal(name); if (field:GetText() == nil) then field:SetText(coordX .. ", " .. coordY); return; end; end; |
| 05:46.05 | Iriel | Oh, you'd need a field:Show() in the if too, before the return |
| 05:46.14 | Xenok | hmm |
| 05:46.18 | Xenok | interesting |
| 05:46.51 | Xenok | what would I replace "field" with? |
| 05:47.56 | Iriel | nothing |
| 05:48.00 | Iriel | it's good as is |
| 05:48.00 | Xenok | ah |
| 05:48.08 | Xenok | Ill get to work on that |
| 05:48.30 | Iriel | Break my one long line up into multiple lines in your code, it'll be easier to read,... I didn't want to spam the channel |
| 05:48.31 | Misheru | http://wowi.pastey.net/7843 |
| 05:48.32 | Misheru | well this code loads with no errors but the auto reply doesnt work |
| 05:48.45 | Xenok | lol ok iriel |
| 05:49.02 | Misheru | I think i still need to search th table right? |
| 05:49.44 | subbot | agh this is so annoying, i can't get any chatframe as small as i like it, except for the combatlog |
| 05:50.10 | Xenok | Iriel: the local EDIT_FIELDS just goes anywhere in the code then eh? |
| 05:50.35 | Iriel | Xenok: In the file (probably near the top) before you use it |
| 05:50.40 | Xenok | right |
| 05:50.40 | Iriel | Xenok: NOT inside any tables though |
| 05:50.45 | Xenok | ok |
| 05:50.56 | Xenok | but what about the fori, name in ipairs part? |
| 05:51.05 | Xenok | same? |
| 05:51.37 | Iriel | yes, the line should work as is (with the addition of field:Show(); before return;) |
| 05:51.45 | Xenok | aight |
| 05:52.25 | Iriel | Misheru: Why not put a debugging print in your OnEvent function to make sure it's getting fired. |
| 05:52.46 | Xenok | Misheru: is that the entire script or do you have more? |
| 05:52.57 | Misheru | just doing that now . . .and thats all of it .. |
| 05:53.01 | Xenok | aight |
| 05:53.03 | Xenok | just wondering |
| 05:53.18 | Misheru | i have about 200 entries for the table but thats parts irrelevent |
| 05:53.44 | Iriel | also, you should really do function(self, event, arg1, arg2, ...) instead of function() |
| 05:53.45 | Xenok | hehe |
| 05:54.22 | Misheru | Whats that do? |
| 05:54.57 | Xenok | Iriel: would that stuff you gave me need to be called by something? |
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| 05:55.27 | Iriel | Xenok: Sure, but since you haven't given us the rest of your code it's a bit difficult to say what |
| 05:55.44 | Xenok | you want my xml file too? |
| 05:55.45 | Xenok | lol |
| 05:55.46 | Xenok | riiiight |
| 05:56.18 | Iriel | Misheru: It means the arguments are passed in locally instead of being pulled from the global environment |
| 05:56.22 | Iriel | It's faster and cleaner that way |
| 05:56.28 | Iriel | And more future-proof |
| 05:56.32 | Misheru | ok makes sense |
| 05:57.04 | Misheru | if ( event =="ADDON_LOADED" and arg1=="misheruautodkp" ) then |
| 05:57.04 | Misheru | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.04 | Misheru | end |
| 05:57.10 | Misheru | is that right ? |
| 05:57.49 | Xenok | Iriel.. if you want my xml file .. your gunna have to look through 1759 lines of code |
| 05:57.53 | Xenok | XD |
| 05:58.13 | Xenok | but thats mostly my dropdowns |
| 05:58.55 | Iriel | Whatever called your 'old' functions one way, now calls your new function the new way |
| 05:59.21 | Xenok | sooo what woudl I put in my xml file to call it? |
| 05:59.38 | Misheru | http://wowi.pastey.net/7844 |
| 05:59.38 | Misheru | current code . .not getting load message |
| 05:59.42 | Iriel | That depends on your XML file -- how did you write this code in the first place if you're not sure how stuff gets called? |
| 05:59.54 | Xenok | I called it by functions... |
| 05:59.57 | Iriel | Misheru: Is the .lua in your .toc, is the addon actually loaded? are there any load time errors? |
| 05:59.58 | Andune | ~seen Andune |
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| 06:00.09 | Xenok | nameoffunction(); |
| 06:00.15 | Misheru | no load errors and is in th toc |
| 06:00.19 | Iriel | Xenok Well, pastey a snippet of the code that calls it? |
| 06:00.47 | Iriel | Misheru: And your addon is named EXACTLY (case sensitive) misherautodkp ? |
| 06:01.14 | Misheru | yep .. if i take the if stat. away from the loaded text it displays |
| 06:01.28 | Xenok | then why is it there? |
| 06:01.31 | Iriel | Oh, I see what you did |
| 06:01.41 | Iriel | You put an event test in, but didn't put it in your OnEvent |
| 06:01.44 | Iriel | Why would you do that? |
| 06:02.01 | Misheru | cause i learned about lua about 4 hours ago? LOl |
| 06:02.03 | Iriel | Either remove the if, and stop registering for ADDON_LOADED (The EASY solution) |
| 06:02.20 | Iriel | Or move the if inside your event function, and leave the rest as-is |
| 06:02.52 | Misheru | KK but the auto reply part still dosent work : ( |
| 06:04.22 | Misheru | is line 23 right? |
| 06:05.08 | Iriel | Ah, no, because you forgot to be case sensitive |
| 06:05.13 | Xenok | Iriel: http://wowi.pastey.net/7846 my entire lua ... http://wowi.pastey.net/7845 the onclick of the button that called everthing |
| 06:05.15 | Iriel | I suspect your name in game is Misheru not misheru |
| 06:05.56 | Misheru | yeah . .but if the tell comes in as misheru wont it look that up? |
| 06:06.08 | Xenok | no.. case sensitvie remember |
| 06:06.10 | Iriel | Oh, yes. |
| 06:06.16 | Xenok | oh? |
| 06:06.24 | Misheru | its the incomming tell thats looked up |
| 06:06.27 | Iriel | It would look it up if the tell came in as misheru, because that'd be a case sensitive match |
| 06:06.42 | Shirik | Iriel, would you happen to know what it means if I get a java.lang.IllegalThreadStateException every time I shut down my program? |
| 06:06.51 | Iriel | Well, next step is to put some debugging in your OnEvent |
| 06:06.53 | Shirik | (sorry I know off topic) |
| 06:07.10 | Misheru | but it doesnt reply with 20-120 or at all |
| 06:07.23 | Nom- | OMG |
| 06:07.30 | Nom- | Why does wow-europe have to be difficult? |
| 06:07.34 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:07.43 | Xenok | huh? |
| 06:07.48 | Shirik | it's more difficult than US ? |
| 06:07.52 | Iriel | Shirik: Is there any chance you're calling the deprecated suspend() or resume() methods in your code? |
| 06:07.56 | Nom- | The US web site has a nice XML file which it uses for realm status |
| 06:08.02 | Nom- | Which i'm going to pull down for a list of realms |
| 06:08.08 | Nom- | The Europe one doesn;t |
| 06:08.12 | Xenok | XD |
| 06:08.13 | Shirik | nope I steered clear of those because I read the javadoc and it mentioned potential for deadlocking |
| 06:08.30 | Shirik | all I use is interrupt(), notify(), and wait() |
| 06:08.52 | Shirik | notifyAll() rather |
| 06:09.06 | Shirik | Nom-: What are you trying to do? |
| 06:09.10 | Xenok | Iriel:(when you get the chance) http://wowi.pastey.net/7846 my entire lua ... http://wowi.pastey.net/7845 the onclick of the button that called everthing |
| 06:09.19 | Nom- | Shirik: Pull a list of realms in and parse it |
| 06:09.39 | Nom- | For my sig thiny |
| 06:09.40 | Nom- | thing |
| 06:09.53 | Iriel | Xenok: First http://wowi.pastey.net/7847 |
| 06:09.59 | Shirik | Nom-: try http://www.wow-europe.com/en/serverstatus/? |
| 06:10.06 | Nom- | Yeah, that one is HTML |
| 06:10.12 | Shirik | use a regex to parse :P |
| 06:10.13 | Shirik | it won't be hard |
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| 06:10.27 | Nom- | No, but it's evil :) |
| 06:10.29 | Iriel | Xenok: Second http://wowi.pastey.net/7848 |
| 06:10.35 | Iriel | Xenok: Why do you have 3 identical functions? |
| 06:10.39 | Shirik | the best things in life you have to work for |
| 06:10.45 | Nom- | Takes all of 4 lines of code to parse the US one thanks to XML libraries |
| 06:10.51 | Shirik | in what language? |
| 06:10.54 | Iriel | Coords, bookmarksaving and bookmarksaving2 all do exactly the same thing |
| 06:11.12 | Iriel | Shirik: Ah, you need to be in a synchronized block on the object you're notifying against |
| 06:11.13 | Shirik | I bet I could do it in approx 4 lines |
| 06:11.31 | Nom- | That 4 lines of code includes the code to actually download it from the net :) |
| 06:11.31 | Xenok | cuz I thought that was the only way to get the fonstring to change to another variable was to acutally make another variable |
| 06:12.03 | Shirik | iriel: Yeah but it's strange; the error doesn't pop up on notify or anything, just on exit.... |
| 06:12.09 | Nom- | omg i take it all back |
| 06:12.10 | Nom- | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/serverstatus/index.xml |
| 06:12.17 | Shirik | granted, the other threads are in wait() when the program exits; could that cause a problem? |
| 06:12.34 | Shirik | should I interrupt them before shutting down? |
| 06:12.46 | Shirik | haha nom |
| 06:13.02 | Xenok | Nom-... just .... yeah.. |
| 06:13.02 | Nom- | It's a diferent format |
| 06:13.06 | Nom- | But it's still XML...nice and easy |
| 06:13.12 | Shirik | but seriously what language, because you could parse it with a regex in.. maybe a line |
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| 06:13.47 | Iriel | Shirik: It shouldn't.. Your problem is a notifyAll outside of a synchronized block, or a wait outside of a synchronized block |
| 06:14.03 | Shirik | hmm, I'll check it thanks |
| 06:14.15 | Iriel | Shirik: It maybe that the shutdown is what happens to get the code to the point where it CAN fail due to a previous lock |
| 06:14.33 | Xenok | Iriel: they don't do the exact same thing... in the savedcoords2 it lists as coordX2 TWO!!! not just coordX |
| 06:14.35 | Iriel | Shirik: An easy mistake is to synchronize on an object other than 'this' but then call notifyAll() without specifyijng an object |
| 06:14.50 | Shirik | ok I'll check them thanks :) |
| 06:14.53 | Iriel | Xenok: The variable names (since they're local) have no meaning outside of the function |
| 06:14.58 | Nom- | The realm names are all english afaik |
| 06:15.06 | Iriel | Xenok: It still calculates the same results and returns them |
| 06:15.11 | Xenok | oh. |
| 06:17.59 | Shirik | Nom-: if the language you're using allows for regular expression matching, you can test against <r +id="((?:[^"]|\\")+)" +n="((?:[^"]|\\")+)" +t="((?:[^"]|\\")+)" +r="((?:[^"]|\\")+)" +l="((?:[^"]|\\")+)" +s="((?:[^"]|\\")+)" +q="((?:[^"]|\\")+)" */ *> |
| 06:18.07 | Xenok | Iriel: I wanted it to check the previous fontstring and then place the text in the next one.. and if that one is taken .. the NEXT one .. and so on.. but with what you gave me.. it automaticly fills Bookmarks and noteedit2 |
| 06:18.11 | Shirik | and get every capture group |
| 06:18.15 | Cairenn|afk | oi, my eyes |
| 06:18.24 | Shirik | oh come on it wasn't that bad |
| 06:18.35 | Iriel | Xenok: It shouldn't -- there's a return in there isn't there? |
| 06:18.35 | Thunder_Child | heh, i was about to say that |
| 06:18.55 | Xenok | yeah. Ithink so. but it did anyway. |
| 06:19.04 | Nom- | Shirik: Why would I do that ugly, nasty thing when an XML library is so much easier |
| 06:19.07 | Cairenn|afk | it was if you weren't expecting it, clicked back over from a different channel and all I see is that |
| 06:19.11 | Shirik | ha sorry >< |
| 06:19.22 | Shirik | because (1) maybe you don't have an xml library or (2) you don't know how to use it :P |
| 06:19.28 | Thunder_Child | pfft, you should always be on this channel |
| 06:19.30 | Shirik | or (3) you want to do it in one line |
| 06:19.30 | Nom- | pfft |
| 06:19.43 | Shirik | I just like regexes I try to use them everywhere ^^ |
| 06:19.45 | Nom- | the problem was i couldn't find an xml version of the EU realm status page |
| 06:19.49 | Nom- | I found it, problem solvered |
| 06:19.56 | Nom- | I'm using an XML library, because i'm not insane |
| 06:20.16 | Xenok | Iriel: yeah. theres a return .. but it fills both nameeidt2 and bookmarks O.o |
| 06:20.31 | Shirik | but I took all that time to write it out for you T_T |
| 06:20.34 | Iriel | You're calling it twice |
| 06:20.38 | Xenok | oh duh yeah |
| 06:20.38 | Iriel | In your OnClick |
| 06:20.42 | Xenok | JUST saw that |
| 06:22.01 | Misheru | http://wowi.pastey.net/7849 |
| 06:22.02 | Misheru | kk my last kick at the cat for the night... load with no errors . . .displayed loaded message . .no reply |
| 06:22.31 | Misheru | i know it has to do with th table but i am clueless on what |
| 06:22.36 | Xenok | ok cool.. fixed it ... NOW I need to make it so that it shows up in my dropdown menu that says "durotar" cuz thats where I am.. and then .. if I have saved in another zone.. change the fonstrings to the coords that I saved in the second zone |
| 06:23.00 | Xenok | and then be able to go back to durotar and get the ones I saved in durotar |
| 06:23.01 | Shirik | no reply? |
| 06:23.02 | Iriel | Misheru: For the zillionth time, put a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage inside your OnEvent script, preferably one before each if and one before the SendChatMessage, so you can see how far the code gets |
| 06:23.03 | Shirik | what does that mean? |
| 06:23.32 | Misheru | oh ok ( sry tired) |
| 06:24.31 | Xenok | purl, pda |
| 06:24.36 | purl | [pda] Personal Digital Assistant |
| 06:24.43 | Xenok | thought so :D just making sure |
| 06:25.27 | Xenok | Iriel: is what I want possible? |
| 06:27.30 | Iriel | Sure it's possible -- you really shouldn't be using the font strings for STORAGE though, you should put data into a table as you save it, and update the font string to match the table data when you change zones. |
| 06:27.54 | Iriel | You could have a table keyed by zone, and with values that are arrays of coordinates, or something like that |
| 06:28.11 | Xenok | hmm |
| 06:28.35 | Nom- | hmm i just had a realisation |
| 06:28.46 | Nom- | It's probably not a good idea to skull coke and mentos at the same time |
| 06:28.54 | Xenok | XD |
| 06:29.10 | Nom- | (Which I realised after the second mentos, and half a can of coke) |
| 06:31.08 | Xenok | Iriel: so I would make a key for every zone or do I do a key for GetZoneText? |
| 06:31.20 | Xenok | GetZoneText() |
| 06:31.22 | Tem | acutlaly, it really has no effect once you've injested either |
| 06:31.49 | Tem | (also, only _diet_ coke seems to react violently |
| 06:32.03 | Iriel | WHATEVER_BOOKMARK_DATA = { .... stuff goes here .... } |
| 06:32.04 | Misheru | its the aspertine |
| 06:32.05 | Tem | other carbonated products do react, but not nearly as much) |
| 06:32.17 | Iriel | local zoneBookmarks = WHATEVER_BOOKMARK_DATA[GetZoneText()]; |
| 06:32.57 | Xenok | like what stuff? |
| 06:33.01 | Xenok | : |
| 06:33.03 | Xenok | :P |
| 06:33.51 | Misheru | ok by debugging it the problem is in the SendChatMessage( misheruautodkp[arg1],"WHISPER",nil,arg2 ) |
| 06:33.52 | Misheru | it says usage error |
| 06:34.35 | Misheru | wait a sec |
| 06:35.43 | Misheru | IT WORKS!!!! |
| 06:36.00 | Xenok | YAY!! |
| 06:38.53 | Xenok | just put it on top of lua? |
| 06:39.57 | Iriel | I've got to sleep, someone else will have to help you.. or maybe read up some more on lua and look at other code? |
| 06:40.28 | Xenok | Ill figure it out .. night |
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| 06:47.50 | bleetah | iPod users rejoice .... finally a decent amp for the thing! http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/03/06/fatman_itube/ |
| 06:48.05 | bleetah | oops, mt |
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| 06:49.14 | Chardonnay | i had a tube amp from the 1950s, nearly broke my toe dropping the ht power supply |
| 06:49.34 | Tem | bleetah, too bad it's WAY too expensive |
| 06:50.16 | bleetah | I'm sure if I spent ... five weeks .. or more.. sifting through my old man's pile of valves I'd be able to build something similar |
| 06:50.42 | bleetah | he's got ... 15 or so "tea chests" full of them |
| 06:50.58 | Tem | lol |
| 06:51.02 | bleetah | used to service home electronic gear before it all became throwaway stuff |
| 06:51.16 | bleetah | nn tem |
| 06:51.20 | Tem|Sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.43 | Chardonnay | best to design one using the "common" valves used in guitar amps i guess. then at least if it breaks you're not screwed :) |
| 06:53.25 | Tem|Sleep | oh well that's a releif |
| 06:53.32 | Tem|Sleep | nVidia users on Vista |
| 06:53.36 | bleetah | aye.. personally I find modern guitar valve amps don't have the 'dirty' sound of a couple of decades ago |
| 06:53.44 | Tem|Sleep | Turns out there's a driver bug that's causing your low wow framerates |
| 06:53.51 | Tem|Sleep | http://www.nvidia.com/object/vista_driver_news_022207.html |
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| 06:54.34 | bleetah | almost as much shock and suprise as M$ blasting Google re (C) infringement, several months after M$ got fined for... patent infringements |
| 06:54.34 | Xenok | GAH!!! |
| 06:55.05 | bleetah | time for nVidia Windows users to install Linux and Wine! :) |
| 06:55.11 | bleetah | :-p |
| 06:55.37 | Xenok | linux is very complicated though |
| 06:55.41 | Xenok | to my understanding |
| 06:55.54 | Xenok | espically using wine.. |
| 06:56.16 | Xenok | why doesn't linux have an easier way to play windows games :P |
| 06:57.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it would no longer be hip and different if it wasactually useful outside of business settings |
| 06:58.46 | bleetah | I seem to recall similar things said about windows in the past.. can anyone recall having to tool around in config.ini just to get sound working? |
| 06:59.55 | Chardonnay | hmm, not since windows 3.1 :) |
| 07:00.09 | Xenok | Iriel said that the first set of highlighted lines would help me use tables to store variables and be able to display the text of a fontstring to differ depending on the zone.. but I don't know how to use them to finish the second set of highlighted lines: http://wowi.pastey.net/7851 |
| 07:00.19 | bleetah | yeah, and I haven't had much problems since 2.4 kernels |
| 07:00.27 | bleetah | well, later 2.4 kernels |
| 07:01.01 | bleetah | as for wine... it's opensource, the hardcore gamers who want to play on !win32 contribute to the codebase, it's not nearly as shocking as a couple of years ago |
| 07:02.51 | bleetah | more tends to come down to having to tweak the defaults (of either wine or the base OS) to more suit the local hardware... something that windows tends to hide, as it's just one distro. eg: soundbuffers for WoW, the OpenGL Wine registry hack for nVidia cards |
| 07:06.03 | Xenok | can somone PLEASE help me |
| 07:06.10 | Xenok | T_T |
| 07:06.35 | Nom- | hmmm |
| 07:06.43 | Nom- | are the realm names duplicated between EU and US ? |
| 07:07.13 | Chardonnay | nom, yes, or at least there's a lot of overlap |
| 07:07.42 | Xenok | lol what kinds of realm name is Les Clairvoyants? |
| 07:07.55 | norgs | a french one? |
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| 07:08.52 | Xenok | annny way.. can someone scroll up to my realllly long post and help me? |
| 07:10.42 | Nom- | hey-hey |
| 07:10.44 | Nom- | http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/ |
| 07:11.07 | Nom- | Totally beta, but you can now select your character rather than typing the URL :) |
| 07:11.24 | Xenok | hehe awsome nom |
| 07:11.46 | norgs | wow |
| 07:11.50 | norgs | that's nice |
| 07:12.17 | norgs | it works out gender, race, guild, etc |
| 07:13.10 | Shirik | nicely done nom |
| 07:13.21 | Xenok | this person is on my realm got to that level 5 days after release.. http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/US/Thrall/vythica.png |
| 07:13.34 | Shirik | and it prominently displays that I am proudly 50 points into MM! |
| 07:13.44 | Shirik | I would be more if I could get away with it but I need imp wing clip >.> |
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| 07:14.05 | Shirik | now what you need, nom, is a good background for it |
| 07:14.08 | Xenok | what realm you on shirik? |
| 07:14.13 | Nom- | oo i broke it did i? |
| 07:14.15 | Shirik | perhaps the race's home zone? |
| 07:14.20 | Shirik | oh was there supposed to be? |
| 07:14.21 | Nom- | yeah i broke it |
| 07:14.21 | Nom- | sec |
| 07:14.30 | Shirik | Xenok: http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/US/Eredar/Shirik.png |
| 07:14.39 | Xenok | doh.. nom broke it |
| 07:14.40 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:14.46 | Shirik | (en) Please come back later |
| 07:14.47 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:14.56 | Xenok | howed you brake it? |
| 07:15.00 | Thunder_Child | heh, doesnt like it when you use a char lower than 10, or one that doesnt exist i presume |
| 07:15.20 | Xenok | no.. all of them don't work now :P |
| 07:15.23 | Shirik | nah I think Nom took it offline |
| 07:15.32 | Shirik | when I pointed out the background was missing |
| 07:15.46 | Nom- | there back |
| 07:15.56 | Shirik | ok well |
| 07:15.58 | Shirik | as I was saying |
| 07:16.08 | Shirik | you need a good background, like perhaps the race's home zone |
| 07:16.12 | Xenok | aww shirik.. ally? |
| 07:16.15 | Nom- | yah i know Shirik |
| 07:16.16 | Shirik | um... ok |
| 07:16.18 | Shirik | how about this one xenok |
| 07:16.22 | Nom- | that was the plan Shirik lol |
| 07:16.34 | Nom- | I'll take some screenshots when I get home and see what I can whip up |
| 07:16.35 | Shirik | http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/US/Drenden/Kimina.jpg |
| 07:16.38 | Thunder_Child | heh, saves as *.png.jpg |
| 07:16.50 | Nom- | yeah coz it's actually .jpgh |
| 07:16.53 | Xenok | yay blood elf |
| 07:16.55 | Nom- | jpeg format |
| 07:17.00 | Nom- | hang i'll change the javascript |
| 07:17.24 | Nom- | there, the javascript now takes it to jpg |
| 07:17.26 | Shirik | what language did you use? |
| 07:17.31 | Shirik | php? |
| 07:17.31 | Xenok | Shirik: can you help me with a little code real quick? |
| 07:17.41 | Nom- | You don't actually need any extension, that's jut there in case a forum needs it |
| 07:17.44 | Shirik | I actually have to finish a project before class tomorrow sorry xenok >< |
| 07:17.47 | Xenok | aw ok |
| 07:17.48 | Nom- | Shirik: perl |
| 07:17.56 | Shirik | long as it wasn't ruby ok |
| 07:18.08 | Shirik | =P |
| 07:18.10 | Nom- | Shirik: perl + catalyst + fastcgi + dbix::class + imager |
| 07:18.22 | Xenok | yeah.. it works without the .jpg or .png too |
| 07:18.24 | Shirik | I like php's libraries.. |
| 07:18.34 | Shirik | and then you could go ahead and dynamically make it a png, jpg, or whatever |
| 07:18.44 | Nom- | Yeah, same with what i've used |
| 07:18.48 | Xenok | can anyone help me for a few minutes? |
| 07:18.48 | Nom- | It was originally generating .png |
| 07:18.55 | Nom- | but it got too big, so I changed it to jpeg |
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| 07:19.08 | Nom- | Those are all rendered on the fly btw, there's no caching of the image files |
| 07:19.22 | Xenok | Iriel said that the first set of highlighted lines would help me use tables to store variables and be able to display the text of a fontstring to differ depending on the zone.. but I don't know how to use them to finish the second set of highlighted lines: http://wowi.pastey.net/7851 |
| 07:19.26 | Nom- | The data from WoW Armory is cached :) |
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| 07:21.43 | Nom- | I'll release it all open source when I get bored |
| 07:23.36 | Nom- | bleh...WoW forces a ucfirst policy don't they? |
| 07:23.44 | Nom- | all names must be first letter upper case? |
| 07:27.41 | nuoHep | it says to come back later for me :/ http://standen.id.au/sigmaker/sig/EU/Stonemaul/Ziri |
| 07:28.48 | Nom- | probably menas there's a data problem |
| 07:28.49 | Nom- | sec |
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| 07:29.19 | nuoHep | maybe its because i have only one prof... |
| 07:29.46 | Nom- | Probably |
| 07:29.52 | Nom- | I thought I had fixed that tho :) |
| 07:29.58 | Nom- | ah no i didn't |
| 07:30.01 | Nom- | i fixed it for 0 |
| 07:30.04 | Nom- | but not for 1 |
| 07:30.56 | Nom- | try again now |
| 07:31.10 | Nom- | I knew that one was going to come up :) |
| 07:31.23 | Nom- | The thing i want to fix next is to actually name the spec at the top |
| 07:31.32 | Nom- | i'll do that tomorrow something if i get a few minutes |
| 07:32.23 | nuoHep | ye. it works |
| 07:33.11 | Nom- | I reckon this is actually kinda useful :) |
| 07:33.19 | Nom- | I'm already using it as my forum sig in my guild forums |
| 07:33.52 | Nom- | If I can get it looking pretty enough, I could always go as far as configuration options |
| 07:34.04 | Nom- | The way Catalyst works, I could chain these options on forever |
| 07:34.09 | Nom- | make the URL really long, but still :) |
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| 07:42.16 | Nom- | heh i keep thinking about handing caching of incorrectly types better |
| 07:42.32 | Nom- | than i realize that it's better to cache a negative response than to keep thrashing WoW Armory |
| 07:42.41 | Nom- | *then |
| 07:47.06 | Xenok | ohhh nom- ...... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/cortez1212/nom2.gif |
| 07:47.16 | Xenok | i think you will like it |
| 07:48.25 | Xenok | Nom- you even here? |
| 07:48.36 | Xenok | I just made that for ya |
| 07:51.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh snap :O |
| 07:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been busy all day, so that's fantastic news |
| 07:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's pretty much all we needed to be useful again, i personally don't mind bear doing crap for damage as long as it has good threat |
| 07:54.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | though pre-66 will be a problem, not my problem though :p |
| 07:55.18 | Xenok | Nom- you here? |
| 07:57.09 | Xenok | Can anyone help me? Iriel said that the first set of highlighted lines would help me use tables to store variables and be able to display the text of a fontstring to differ depending on the zone.. but I don't know how to use them to finish the second set of highlighted lines: http://wowi.pastey.net/7851 |
| 07:59.04 | norgs | Xenok: I had a quick look at it before, but it just looked non-sensical to me... :( |
| 07:59.18 | Xenok | aw |
| 07:59.31 | norgs | line 3 sets up an empty table |
| 07:59.41 | Xenok | I know.. I just don't know how to finish |
| 08:00.06 | norgs | line 4 sets a local variable "zoneBookmarks" to point to a nil entry in the empty table |
| 08:00.29 | norgs | is PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA supposed to have stuff in it? |
| 08:00.31 | Xenok | what would I put into the table? |
| 08:00.47 | Xenok | Iriel was very vauge on how to do it |
| 08:01.05 | Xenok | soo i dunno |
| 08:01.56 | norgs | well, i don't know what you're trying to do, really |
| 08:02.06 | Xenok | _BOOKMARK_DATA = { .... stuff goes here .... } is what he said.. he never told me waht stuff |
| 08:02.46 | Xenok | im trying to change the same fonstring to display somthing else depending on the zone I select in a dropdown.. he told me to make a table |
| 08:02.48 | norgs | well... i know stuff's supposed to be there too |
| 08:03.01 | Xenok | basicly all he said |
| 08:03.16 | norgs | so give me an example |
| 08:04.44 | Xenok | like. im in durotar.. I save my coords into a fonstring.."Bookmarks" then i move to say.. barrens. and I save a new variable in bookmarks... I want to be able to select from a dropdown that I have already made to durotar.. and it will replace the barrens fonstring to the durotar fonstring.. and vice versa |
| 08:05.12 | Xenok | and apparently i forget to hit "T" alot |
| 08:06.20 | Xenok | and I want to be able to do that for every zone |
| 08:06.32 | Chardonnay | xenok, can you back and tell us what you're trying to remember for each zone. i had a look before but couldn't figure out what you were trying to do |
| 08:06.45 | Xenok | The current coords |
| 08:06.53 | norgs | Chardonnay: that was my problem too :) |
| 08:06.57 | Xenok | hehe |
| 08:07.19 | Esamynn|Busy | Mr_Rabies2: those are in the most recent patch notes? I missed that, that's sweet |
| 08:07.21 | Chardonnay | so you want to remember the "current coords" for a zone you're not in anymore? |
| 08:07.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a hotfix added in |
| 08:07.44 | Xenok | noo.. i want to save the current coords .. and be able to remember it ... |
| 08:07.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | not in the notes |
| 08:07.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's good enough for me to resume my account, Esamynn|Busy |
| 08:07.59 | Corrodias | obg rabies |
| 08:08.01 | Corrodias | when? |
| 08:08.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | today |
| 08:08.15 | Corrodias | on US realms? |
| 08:08.17 | Esamynn|Busy | ahh, a hotfix, cool |
| 08:08.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 08:08.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're now viable again as tanks, and i'm happy |
| 08:08.38 | Corrodias | lacerate on bleede-immunes! |
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| 08:08.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't care about our damage in bear really |
| 08:08.48 | Corrodias | i could ejaculate onto blizzard's keyboards |
| 08:08.49 | Esamynn|Busy | yah, that makes me happy, that makes lacerate pretty much equivalent to Sunder Armor now |
| 08:08.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll miss the armor and hp |
| 08:08.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | but eh |
| 08:08.53 | Esamynn|Busy | for threat anyways |
| 08:08.53 | Corrodias | neither did i, nor most of the druids |
| 08:09.17 | Corrodias | uh oh, now warriors will cry "nerf lacerate" because it does like 200 damage every few seconds! |
| 08:09.19 | Chardonnay | xenok: so, store a note or something for the coords in a particular zone, and then be able to scan later looking for data at those coords in that zone? |
| 08:09.21 | Esamynn|Busy | yah, as long as I can hold agro, and stay alive, I'll be happy |
| 08:09.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | less than that, corr :X |
| 08:09.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it ticks for like 173 for me stacked to 5 and mangled |
| 08:09.53 | Corrodias | ah. well, my bear gear is bad. it has high attack power but low armor |
| 08:10.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait, does lacerate even scale with AP? |
| 08:10.23 | Corrodias | or maybe i'm just thinking "200" and it's actually "not 200" |
| 08:10.36 | Corrodias | i could just be a fool |
| 08:10.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's actually "your mom" |
| 08:10.54 | Corrodias | hah, illidan couldn't handle my mom. |
| 08:11.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | Your Lacerate damages Illidan for Your Mom. |
| 08:11.19 | Chardonnay | xenok: if you just want to store the current coords it would be yourtable[zonename] = { coordx, coordy } |
| 08:11.23 | Corrodias | brb |
| 08:11.24 | Esamynn|Busy | I doubt the instant damage is as high as 200 |
| 08:11.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 08:11.42 | Esamynn|Busy | i'd expect more like 50 |
| 08:11.48 | Corrodias | it's probably jsut a tiny amount so the threat will apply to bleed-immune mobs |
| 08:11.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it does keep my old aggro strategy viable |
| 08:12.07 | Corrodias | it would be like Sunder Armor not working on any mob that doesn't actually wear armor |
| 08:12.09 | Xenok | Chardonnay: what I mean is.. I click a button.. it then saves like "47, 17" into a fontstring.. and it stays as that even as i move.. cuz I saved 47, 17 ... I can do that.. its just saving a differnt thing in the same fonstring after being in a differnet zone so that I select the old zone in a drop down and the fonstring changes to 47, 17 while I also save 12, 54 in another zone drop down |
| 08:12.15 | Corrodias | rabies: where did you get this information? |
| 08:12.16 | Esamynn|Busy | Corrodias: exactly |
| 08:12.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | lacerate to 5 and mangle every cooldown, keeping lacerate at 5 for the whole fight |
| 08:12.22 | Esamynn|Busy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79628008&sid=1 |
| 08:12.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | stickied thread in drood forums |
| 08:12.32 | Esamynn|Busy | the This week in hotfixes thread has it too |
| 08:12.37 | Esamynn|Busy | which is what I linked |
| 08:13.05 | Corrodias | why not keep using Lacerate? i hear it keep adding threat even if fully stacked |
| 08:13.17 | Esamynn|Busy | it does afaik |
| 08:13.24 | MentalPower|Java | any Java gurus around? |
| 08:13.32 | MentalPower|Java | Generics are driving me up the wall |
| 08:13.37 | Corrodias | i'm a java apprentice... |
| 08:13.46 | Esamynn|Busy | MentalPower|Java: yay Generics! =D |
| 08:13.48 | pastamancer | oh god, stay away! |
| 08:13.48 | Esamynn|Busy | as away |
| 08:13.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr |
| 08:13.55 | Esamynn|Busy | s/as/ask/ |
| 08:13.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | link me your armory profile :O |
| 08:14.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | in bear gear if you can |
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| 08:14.16 | Corrodias | hang on |
| 08:14.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Raybeez |
| 08:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's mine (the stats are from pre 2.0.10 |
| 08:15.29 | Corrodias | i get the armory opening page. sigh. *searches* |
| 08:15.46 | Xenok | I get rabies prof |
| 08:15.48 | Xenok | lol |
| 08:16.05 | Corrodias | okay, i'm currently in cat gear. lemme log in |
| 08:16.13 | MentalPower|Java | I'll start with a piece of code: http://wowi.pastey.net/7852 |
| 08:16.42 | MentalPower|Java | that gives the compiler warning: "Type safety: The expression of type HashMap needs unchecked conversion to conform to HashMap<String,String>" |
| 08:16.56 | MentalPower|Java | However obviously its already a <String, String> mapping |
| 08:17.02 | MentalPower|Java | any ideas? |
| 08:17.19 | MentalPower|Java | s/warning/warning on line 3/ |
| 08:17.20 | Corrodias | "The Druid ability Mangle (Bear) now generates 50% bonus threat. " |
| 08:17.31 | Corrodias | does this mean that instead of 1 point of threat for every point of damage done, it's 1.5? |
| 08:17.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think |
| 08:17.45 | Corrodias | and how much does Lacerate apply? |
| 08:17.55 | Chardonnay | xenok: so you just want to remember one pair of coordinates for a zone, and update the coords for that zone with your current position in that zone. then you need just hook up to the button press to the assignment mytable[currentzonename] = { currentx, currenty } |
| 08:17.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | ask tangedyn :p |
| 08:18.07 | Corrodias | that person is not here :o |
| 08:18.38 | Xenok | umm char.. lemme take a screenie |
| 08:18.59 | Corrodias | actually, i did log out with my bear gear on (well, pvp gear, for which i have been trying bear + pvp trinkets) |
| 08:18.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay my hp and armor in 2.0.10 is 14809 armor and 11354 hp in bear |
| 08:19.03 | Corrodias | the armory just didn't update |
| 08:19.19 | Esamynn|Busy | MentalPower|Java: yah, the unchecked conversion doesn't surprise me |
| 08:20.35 | Corrodias | well, here's my cat form pve gear, anyway: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eldre%27Thalas&n=Melnayo |
| 08:20.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh snap |
| 08:20.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | your lacerate crits ironspine petrifier for 72. |
| 08:21.11 | Corrodias | except i've added yellow jewels to the fel leather items |
| 08:21.28 | Corrodias | how long does it take the armory to update your info? |
| 08:22.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20 mins or so for me when i checked |
| 08:22.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | swap gear around a bit then logout |
| 08:22.21 | Corrodias | its snapshot is from much earlier today |
| 08:22.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it notices a change maybe |
| 08:22.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet the new features will be bank and bags |
| 08:22.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope so |
| 08:22.44 | Corrodias | it says it's from march 07th, but i put those jewels in several hours ago. |
| 08:22.48 | Nom- | back now Xenok |
| 08:22.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i'd like to show off my other gear too |
| 08:22.58 | Nom- | I've been doing some real work :) |
| 08:23.06 | Xenok | Nom- did you see my new BG i made for you? |
| 08:23.22 | Corrodias | i see, you're actually -in- bear form |
| 08:23.43 | Nom- | just saw it yea |
| 08:23.50 | Xenok | you like? |
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| 08:24.53 | Corrodias | i blatantly plagiarized your build, but then modified it to get the armor bonus again, because i figured if i want to be a tank i might like more armor |
| 08:24.57 | Xenok | Chardonnay: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/cortez1212/help.jpg is what i have now.. I just want to be able to select a differnet zone I have saved coords in and change the saved coords in durotar to the saved coords in the other zone |
| 08:25.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | my build, corr? |
| 08:25.39 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 08:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i feel important :3 |
| 08:27.20 | Corrodias | [Fleshling Simulation Staff]... until someone pointed it out today, i always thought it said [Fleshling Stimulation Staff] |
| 08:27.22 | Nom- | trying it out now Xenok |
| 08:27.27 | Corrodias | okay, now brb. |
| 08:27.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | [Fleshlight Stimulation Staff] |
| 08:28.32 | Xenok | Nom- might have to re-arange some things to fit it in the BG |
| 08:29.41 | Nom- | yea |
| 08:29.52 | Xenok | I want to see :D |
| 08:29.57 | Nom- | i'm running it locally in test mode now |
| 08:30.01 | Nom- | lol kk i'll reboot prod |
| 08:30.21 | Nom- | try now |
| 08:30.37 | Xenok | yeah hehe |
| 08:30.40 | Xenok | need to arrange |
| 08:30.43 | Nom- | need to move stuff around yea |
| 08:30.50 | Nom- | shrink some icons etc |
| 08:31.03 | Xenok | think you will use it? |
| 08:31.14 | Nom- | i should actually move the positions into a database |
| 08:31.21 | Nom- | make it a bit easier to manipulate and make configs |
| 08:31.34 | Esamynn|Busy | night all |
| 08:32.49 | Xenok | Chardonnay .. you there? |
| 08:33.52 | Chardonnay | xenok: so setfontstring(savedcoords[zonenameindropdown]) and then savecoords[currentzonename]={currentx, currenty} (if i'm reading you right) |
| 08:34.17 | Nom- | started moving stuff around if you refresh |
| 08:34.26 | Nom- | looks much better than a plain black background |
| 08:34.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh hell yes the forums have a link to your character, talents, and guild on the armory now |
| 08:34.35 | Xenok | I see nom |
| 08:34.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can see peoples' builds :D |
| 08:34.55 | Nom- | Does it ACTUALLY go to armory, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 08:35.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 08:35.05 | Nom- | Coz you've always been able to specify your build in the forums |
| 08:35.43 | Xenok | Chardonnay: hmm so I would make a table for that? |
| 08:36.16 | Nom- | none of the links work |
| 08:36.19 | Xenok | I also want to use the least amount of code as possible |
| 08:36.22 | Nom- | but yeah, it is linking to armory |
| 08:36.23 | Nom- | interesting |
| 08:36.44 | Nom- | ah those people must have quit...found one that works |
| 08:37.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | Conclusion: Lacerate on single targets that are immune to bleed does around 400 threat, which represents a large gain over swipe on single targets. |
| 08:37.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | nidty |
| 08:37.25 | Corrodias | niddity |
| 08:37.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | nifty* |
| 08:38.18 | Corrodias | now, the big question: can we be certain that spamming Lacerate, even past its 5-stack limit, continues to generate more threat? |
| 08:38.26 | Chardonnay | xenok, just assign to your existing table. lua lets you store anything in anything, as it were. so long as you remember what index to use (the zone name) and what you'll get back (a pair of coords) all is fine |
| 08:38.37 | Corrodias | i would assume the answer would be similar to that of a similar question about sunder armor |
| 08:39.53 | Xenok | Chardonnay: so your saying the saved coords I have in durotar will change to the saved coords i have in barrens if i have barrens selected in a dropdown? |
| 08:39.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a pretty easy way to test |
| 08:40.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually, no there's not |
| 08:40.10 | Corrodias | i suppose i could just ask your mom |
| 08:40.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot a decent chunk of the threat was in the dot |
| 08:43.01 | Corrodias | so it's gimped against bleed immune mobs, but still useful |
| 08:43.19 | Nom- | ok back soon guys, i'm heading home |
| 08:43.32 | Corrodias | so i guess it's Lacerates all the way home with Mangles if you have extra rage |
| 08:43.46 | Chardonnay | xenok: if you stored coords for the barrens before, yes. when you do you yourtable["The Barrens"] you'll get back whatever you stored when you were there (or nil if you never stored anything) |
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| 08:44.04 | Xenok | ahhh |
| 08:44.52 | Xenok | but then i have to make a key for every zone? |
| 08:45.00 | Xenok | hmmm |
| 08:45.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll make a key for your face with my fist |
| 08:45.46 | Xenok | eep but why? |
| 08:46.03 | Corrodias | big tables are okay |
| 08:46.07 | Corrodias | learn2hash! |
| 08:46.16 | Xenok | what be hash? :P |
| 08:46.23 | Corrodias | ground meat, i think |
| 08:46.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | drugs are bad mmmkay |
| 08:46.59 | Corrodias | some guy said " Fix mana/5. ". what's wrong with it? |
| 08:47.04 | Corrodias | "What happens when the Unstoppable Force meets the Imovable Object? Time is stopped and a Gnome is inserted in between to absorb the impact." |
| 08:47.19 | Xenok | lol |
| 08:48.03 | Xenok | "The Stoppable Force, the failed child of The Unstopable Force and The Immovable Object. He took after his daddy's name though." |
| 08:49.02 | Shirik | Quite literally, it's impossible for it to happen |
| 08:49.07 | Corrodias | " I wish there was more flying mounts... Cmon 1 flying mount per faction is kinda low... Taurens look pretty weird on wyverns... dunno what they would ride but im just bringing this up. " -- one word: skykodos. |
| 08:49.16 | Xenok | the one that always got me though is "Why do we have Local Defense Inside of Instances?? " |
| 08:49.21 | Xenok | LOL skykodos |
| 08:49.28 | Shirik | For an unstoppable force must have infinite energy, and an immovable object must have infinite mass |
| 08:49.31 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 08:49.33 | Corrodias | so you can talk to other people in other instances of the same... instance |
| 08:49.43 | Xenok | orly |
| 08:49.43 | nevcairiel | they fixed the druid aggro again :) |
| 08:49.44 | Corrodias | nothing more fun than /3'ing it up with other raids in ZG, amirite? |
| 08:49.49 | Xenok | lol |
| 08:50.19 | Chardonnay | an unstoppable force that meets an immovable object does no work, no energy required |
| 08:50.28 | Shirik | oh no, that's not it at all |
| 08:50.30 | Xenok | How can the mounts with armor move faster than the ones that don't have any? |
| 08:50.40 | Shirik | for we have an infinite amount of energy colliding with an infininte amout of mass |
| 08:50.48 | Corrodias | maybe it's enchanted with +mount speed |
| 08:50.51 | Shirik | F = ma, E = 1/2 mv^2 |
| 08:50.54 | Xenok | lol corr |
| 08:51.06 | Shirik | thus, F = 2 * inf |
| 08:51.15 | Xenok | If a Treant falls in the woods, and there is no one around to see it, does it change back into a Night Elf? |
| 08:51.30 | Shirik | therefore, we produce an object which has the amount of force equal to 2 * infinity |
| 08:51.34 | Corrodias | cry more: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=80453030&sid=1 |
| 08:52.09 | Xenok | good point tho |
| 08:52.11 | Xenok | like |
| 08:52.17 | Xenok | we can spy on our enimies in BG |
| 08:52.25 | Corrodias | oh noes |
| 08:52.26 | Shirik | so, while many think that the two objects colliding with each other would negate each other, instead it would produce a force even stronger |
| 08:52.37 | Corrodias | i'm just going to go ahead and assume that, if i kill a guy 5 times, i'm pretty good at killing him |
| 08:53.06 | Xenok | and hes going to know how to beat you next time after getting your spec. and learning the weakness of the spec |
| 08:53.08 | Shirik | if you kill a guy 5 times |
| 08:53.10 | Shirik | you're a warlock |
| 08:53.13 | Xenok | LOL |
| 08:53.24 | Corrodias | Xenok: he should know by that time. observational skills should reveal that much. |
| 08:53.33 | Xenok | good point |
| 08:53.35 | Corrodias | if it's 1-on-1. if it isn't, then it's not very relevant. |
| 08:53.49 | Xenok | if you stay alive through 3 zergs |
| 08:53.51 | Xenok | your a pally |
| 08:53.58 | Xenok | >.> |
| 08:54.07 | Corrodias | if i'm in cat form and Mangling him, he can reasonably assume that i have a feral spec |
| 08:54.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | man if that was the general forums i'd point out that guy's terrible spec |
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| 08:54.23 | Corrodias | if i'm an owlbear, it's safe to say i'm somewhere in the realm of balance/restoration |
| 08:54.29 | Xenok | lol |
| 08:54.29 | Corrodias | lol |
| 08:54.30 | norgs | Xenok: Here's an example of storing and retrieving coordinates from a global table: http://wowi.pastey.net/7854 |
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| 08:54.55 | Corrodias | cry more about pvp on a pvp realm: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81948481&sid=1 |
| 08:55.20 | Xenok | interesting norgs ty |
| 08:56.13 | Xenok | OMG why play on a pvp server if you don't wanna get ganked!! |
| 08:57.25 | Corrodias | because his friends play there |
| 08:57.28 | Xenok | wtf is this guy?! he has maxed profs and a level 70 dreani! and wicked gear! http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning%20Blade&n=Zazen |
| 08:57.30 | Corrodias | so he wants blizzard to make it easier for him |
| 08:57.36 | Xenok | lol moron |
| 08:57.56 | Xenok | the world .of warcraft doesn't revolve around you |
| 08:57.58 | Corrodias | this guy is... some hardcore player |
| 08:58.02 | Xenok | like hold on |
| 08:58.33 | Xenok | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Thrall&n=Vythica on my realm |
| 08:58.54 | Xenok | look at the rep too |
| 08:59.19 | Corrodias | not bad |
| 08:59.24 | Corrodias | vaguely on par with my gear |
| 08:59.26 | Xenok | but a blood elf :P |
| 08:59.35 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 08:59.53 | Corrodias | exalted with trolls & orcs? wha? |
| 09:00.11 | amro | Corrodias: now its very easy to get rep with capital cities |
| 09:00.16 | Corrodias | howso? |
| 09:00.22 | amro | especially if you roll a new char and do all the starting quests |
| 09:00.35 | amro | the quests will always give rep no matter the level, and give more rep as well I think |
| 09:00.36 | Xenok | but shes also exalted with the BE place |
| 09:00.40 | Xenok | tranquillen |
| 09:00.48 | Xenok | the BE starting area * |
| 09:00.52 | Corrodias | well, that takes about one day, Xenok |
| 09:00.54 | amro | you get exalted with tranquillien at like level 20 |
| 09:00.59 | Xenok | shh |
| 09:00.59 | Corrodias | everybody gets exalted with tranq |
| 09:01.04 | Xenok | I can't >< |
| 09:01.09 | Shirik | that's.. pretty pathetic |
| 09:01.12 | Xenok | lol |
| 09:01.20 | Shirik | it's easy to get exalted with tranquillen |
| 09:01.54 | amro | their quests give a ridiculous amount of rep |
| 09:02.26 | Corrodias | rabies: sick 'em: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81968354&sid=1 |
| 09:02.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | WALL OF TEXT |
| 09:02.54 | Corrodias | so you're saying that if i want exalted with Orgrimmar, i should go do some org quests, and whatever the level they'll give me a bunch of rep now? |
| 09:03.04 | amro | yeah |
| 09:03.09 | Xenok | this one really ticks me off.. my realm http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Thrall&n=Mercediz |
| 09:03.16 | amro | before at level 60 they would only give you 20% rep |
| 09:03.44 | Xenok | that one tickes me off cuz its a lock |
| 09:04.38 | Xenok | wtf? im not updated? http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Thrall&n=Xeekkcnook how do I update myself? |
| 09:04.43 | amro | log in |
| 09:04.57 | Xenok | I have.. but it still says I have that cape |
| 09:05.04 | amro | log in again |
| 09:05.07 | Xenok | and my enchanting 4 levels lower than it is |
| 09:05.08 | Xenok | um ok |
| 09:05.12 | amro | it only updates when you login (or maybe logout) |
| 09:05.17 | Corrodias | i have logged in numerous times and it didn't update the armory |
| 09:06.20 | amro | perhaps it takes awhile for it to refresh |
| 09:06.42 | amro | since they say it updates in realtime, at login (or logout) is the only sane way I can think of |
| 09:06.51 | Corrodias | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81968555 |
| 09:07.45 | Xenok | hehe I would prefer guild cloaks.. but .. tabards don't give stats . so tabbards only . sorry |
| 09:08.00 | amro | I would prefer banners |
| 09:08.18 | Corrodias | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81968496&sid=1 |
| 09:08.20 | Xenok | cloaks would show your emblem better :P |
| 09:08.24 | Corrodias | banners would rock |
| 09:08.42 | Xenok | LOL .. stupid druid |
| 09:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would prefer giant LED signs over our heads with pictures of various breeds of cats instead of tabards |
| 09:09.17 | Xenok | she wants druids to do EVERYTHING |
| 09:09.41 | amro | notice how many times she says please. |
| 09:09.49 | Xenok | well still |
| 09:09.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd like an out of combat res |
| 09:09.59 | Corrodias | hey |
| 09:10.05 | Corrodias | rebirth works out of combat. |
| 09:10.07 | Xenok | one class ~= another |
| 09:10.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe a 10 minute cooldown ooc res that reses the whole party |
| 09:10.18 | Xenok | yeah.. i hate how druids rez has a cooldown. |
| 09:10.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the thing |
| 09:10.28 | amro | because it works in combat |
| 09:10.32 | Xenok | ohh |
| 09:10.38 | Corrodias | okay, if it had NO cooldown... |
| 09:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have to take a resser to run a group |
| 09:10.47 | Xenok | then they should have 2 different rezes |
| 09:10.59 | Corrodias | "okay, load up that druid with int and +mana/5 and have him rez anyone who dies OVER AND OVER AND OVER" |
| 09:11.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd be fine with a 10 min cooldown ooc res that hit the whole party |
| 09:11.10 | Corrodias | what's best is a shaman |
| 09:11.13 | amro | I don't see it as a problem |
| 09:11.15 | Xenok | hehe |
| 09:11.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you'd get a decent group without having to lug a pet pally or shammy everyhwere |
| 09:11.23 | Corrodias | take one shaman and your party is rockin' |
| 09:11.31 | Xenok | oh yeah |
| 09:11.35 | amro | except this one time this idiot druid I was partying with used it on my pet |
| 09:11.39 | Corrodias | even a shadow priest |
| 09:11.48 | Xenok | LOL amro!!! |
| 09:12.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | a 10 minute cooldown means we'd still have to watch ourselves, but it's not as long as rebirth's |
| 09:13.08 | Xenok | she also wants self rez |
| 09:13.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, that's pretty unnecessary |
| 09:13.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'd be better to half a self res or soulstone like ability than our combat res imo |
| 09:13.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | the combat res is so freaking situational |
| 09:13.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but both is unnecessary |
| 09:13.45 | Xenok | yeah |
| 09:14.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | they already increased resto druid mana regen |
| 09:14.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | from spirit |
| 09:14.08 | Corrodias | they did? |
| 09:14.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's /4.5 now |
| 09:14.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | whereas it was /5 in or out of forms |
| 09:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | now it's /4.5 out of forms, /5 in |
| 09:14.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Spirit |
| 09:15.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i should have put a 1 infront of that fraction |
| 09:15.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i couldn't remember exactly what the formula was, just the trailing numbers |
| 09:15.29 | Corrodias | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81968609&sid=1 |
| 09:16.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | Druids can gouge now.... they heal in bear form, |
| 09:16.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | blahahahahahahhhahaha |
| 09:16.27 | Corrodias | now there's a person in another thread complaining about how a bear can't fill the role of a fury warrior. but i disagree. get low armor, low defense, high attack power gear and just see how much damage you can do in bear form |
| 09:16.44 | Corrodias | and i'm talking out of my ass |
| 09:16.45 | Xenok | lol that post makes me laugh |
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| 09:16.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love people with NO IDEA of class mechanics |
| 09:17.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | they've never played any other class than their own |
| 09:17.08 | Corrodias | because i have no idea how much damage a fury warrior does. i just know my mauls & mangles crit for 1100 and 800, respectively |
| 09:17.10 | Xenok | " No wonder I never read the suggestions board any more." |
| 09:17.22 | Corrodias | and that's with accidentally high AP :( i want less, and more armor |
| 09:17.37 | amro | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81918565&sid=1 |
| 09:17.38 | Corrodias | Xenok: it's obvious he got here without actually reading any of it |
| 09:17.46 | amro | 180 days? |
| 09:18.02 | amro | lol |
| 09:18.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | his account probably just renewed recently or something |
| 09:18.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and he has a 6 month subscription plan |
| 09:18.50 | Xenok | OMG Delrof!! just make a new freaking toon!! |
| 09:19.10 | amro | "I will pay this customers 14.95 for the next six months if you cancel his account now." |
| 09:19.17 | Corrodias | lol |
| 09:19.46 | Xenok | did someone say that amro? |
| 09:19.51 | amro | yes |
| 09:19.54 | Xenok | LOL |
| 09:20.11 | Xenok | this guy thinks that you can only have one toon |
| 09:20.20 | amro | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32108861&sid=1 <- why do people bother arguing stuff like this? |
| 09:20.40 | amro | Xenok: he has more toons, but never levelled them past 15 I bet |
| 09:20.43 | Corrodias | Xenok: seriously? where? |
| 09:20.47 | Xenok | hehe |
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| 09:21.28 | Corrodias | " It's been rumored that the 60 to 70 grind will take as long as 1-60." -- i have to say from experience that it was NOWHERE near as long |
| 09:21.45 | Xenok | same . almost |
| 09:21.47 | Xenok | 67 here |
| 09:23.39 | Corrodias | i believe it took me a few weeks |
| 09:23.51 | Corrodias | getting from 1-60 on my first character took nigh unto 3 months if i remember |
| 09:24.06 | Corrodias | Mr_Rabies: my profile has updated -- http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eldre%27Thalas&n=Melnayo |
| 09:24.18 | Corrodias | (pvp trinkets equipped) |
| 09:24.33 | Xenok | it took me 3 days to get from 60 to 67 |
| 09:26.43 | Corrodias | tell me things, rabies! make me feel special! |
| 09:26.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | umumum |
| 09:27.11 | Corrodias | i'm a samurai cow |
| 09:27.14 | Corrodias | that must mean SOMETHING to you |
| 09:28.08 | Xenok | cow = milk |
| 09:28.33 | Corrodias | you have less stamina but more health? |
| 09:28.40 | Corrodias | oh, must be +health gear on there somewhere |
| 09:28.52 | Xenok | norgs.. .you here? |
| 09:28.59 | Corrodias | a whole 150 on the chest piece |
| 09:29.06 | Corrodias | i must be missing something here |
| 09:29.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have fort |
| 09:29.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm in bear |
| 09:30.03 | Corrodias | nono, refresh |
| 09:30.15 | Corrodias | it finally updated. i'm in bear form, no buffs |
| 09:30.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | showing the same as before to me |
| 09:31.03 | Corrodias | well, refresh (skip cache) then |
| 09:31.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i even did a forced refresh |
| 09:31.22 | norgs | Xenok: for a little bit |
| 09:31.28 | Corrodias | i don't understand how it could be showing you the old data and me the new data |
| 09:31.38 | Shirik | because someone doesn't know how to purge their cache |
| 09:31.45 | Shirik | we can settle this - what's the URL |
| 09:31.48 | Shirik | I'll tell you what's really there :P |
| 09:31.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hit ctrl f5 :x |
| 09:31.56 | Shirik | logically, I haven't been there yet, so I can't have it cached |
| 09:31.57 | Xenok | that pasty you gave me norgs. http://wowi.pastey.net/7854 doensn't make 100% sence to me |
| 09:32.00 | Corrodias | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eldre%27Thalas&n=Melnayo |
| 09:32.05 | Shirik | and what am I looking for? |
| 09:32.17 | Corrodias | is he in bear form (has a bear form buff) or not? |
| 09:32.32 | norgs | Xenok: ok |
| 09:32.51 | Shirik | buffs listed are Prayer of Fort, Find Herbs, Gift of the Wild, and AB |
| 09:32.57 | Corrodias | :o |
| 09:33.08 | Corrodias | the armory is playing mind games with me... |
| 09:33.19 | Xenok | thes taruen druid you just liked has fort |
| 09:33.30 | Xenok | yeah.. what shirik said |
| 09:33.52 | Corrodias | i'm freaking out, man |
| 09:37.32 | Corrodias | i don't understand why i'm getting a different page from what you're getting |
| 09:38.00 | Xenok | I don't uderstand how armory just crashed my window and all of its tabs >< |
| 09:38.02 | Corrodias | do bears get health for Strength? |
| 09:38.35 | Corrodias | Raybeez has significantly more strength and agility than Mel does, but slightly less stamina. it adds up to 2000 more health. |
| 09:38.43 | amro | Xenok: the armory doesn't work very well in linux either (I blame adobe) |
| 09:39.06 | Corrodias | well, 1800 |
| 09:39.27 | Xenok | I had 8 freaking tabs that I was using in that one firefox window.. and armory decided to crash me >< |
| 09:39.55 | amro | yes, it decided |
| 09:39.57 | amro | its a conspiracy |
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| 09:40.07 | Xenok | figures |
| 09:40.36 | Xenok | shirik: "the flash of light you did not see did not erase your memory" area 52? |
| 09:40.47 | Shirik | :) |
| 09:40.50 | Xenok | heeh |
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| 09:41.26 | norgs | Xenok: so is there anything specifically you were wondeing about? |
| 09:41.33 | Xenok | uhh |
| 09:41.47 | Xenok | I have to get it again. firefox crashed |
| 09:41.59 | norgs | http://wowi.pastey.net/7854 |
| 09:42.15 | Xenok | ty |
| 09:43.01 | Corrodias | i signed up for AT&T|Yahoo High Speed Internet service today for my apartment |
| 09:43.05 | Xenok | oh yeah.. first was: in each [zone] do i have to type each and every zone into one of those? |
| 09:43.17 | Xenok | or rather |
| 09:43.28 | norgs | right |
| 09:43.33 | Xenok | eep |
| 09:43.44 | norgs | my bad... i'm always forgetting to put the ipairs() around them |
| 09:43.47 | Xenok | no way to keep it short eh? |
| 09:44.03 | norgs | uhm, no |
| 09:44.06 | Xenok | lol |
| 09:44.36 | norgs | uhm |
| 09:44.51 | norgs | what do you think you need to do? |
| 09:45.07 | Xenok | I have to explain again? |
| 09:45.12 | Xenok | >< |
| 09:45.35 | norgs | "do i have to type each and every zone into one of those?" |
| 09:45.42 | Xenok | oh |
| 09:45.44 | Xenok | like |
| 09:45.58 | Shirik | haha |
| 09:46.07 | Shirik | so I'm on Novell's site downloading some packages |
| 09:46.20 | Xenok | make a ["The Barrens"] as well as a ["Azshara"] |
| 09:46.30 | norgs | nope |
| 09:46.39 | norgs | *you* don't need to do that |
| 09:46.44 | Xenok | really?! |
| 09:46.47 | Shirik | "Heads up. You shouldn't be here if you're on Internet Explorer, but just in case you are, we want to warn you that downloads may fail with Internet Explorer as it cannot handle files larger than 2GB. We recommend Mozilla Firefox, which you should be using anyway." |
| 09:46.58 | norgs | http://wowi.pastey.net/7855 |
| 09:47.02 | Corrodias | Shirik: danbooru? |
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| 09:47.04 | Xenok | LOL shirik |
| 09:47.17 | Shirik | what's danbooru? |
| 09:47.23 | norgs | they are created by line 6 |
| 09:47.30 | Corrodias | guess not. the only source i know of for a 2gb file. |
| 09:47.40 | Shirik | ah, no this is from Novell |
| 09:47.42 | Xenok | oo |
| 09:47.45 | Shirik | distributors of SuSE |
| 09:48.34 | norgs | line 5 says "if the table doesn't have this zone in it", then line 6 says "create a new entry at that zone, with an empty subtable" |
| 09:49.02 | Xenok | norgs: sooo do I leave zone as zone or do I name it something? |
| 09:50.54 | Xenok | I should also know what _, does |
| 09:51.18 | norgs | _ is a variable called "_" |
| 09:51.23 | Xenok | ah |
| 09:52.02 | norgs | we use it to signify that we don't really care what it's value is |
| 09:52.11 | Xenok | ooooh |
| 09:52.20 | krka | similar to _ meaning in haskell |
| 09:53.56 | Corrodias | what of... prolog? |
| 09:55.47 | Nom- | back |
| 09:55.48 | MentalPower|Java | ngiht guys |
| 09:55.59 | MentalPower|ZZzz | night* |
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| 09:57.30 | Nom- | blah now i gotta download teh patch |
| 09:57.32 | krka | oh right, prolog uses _ too |
| 09:57.33 | Nom- | blah now i gotta download teh patch |
| 09:57.50 | Nom- | at least it's only 2mb |
| 09:59.02 | Nom- | lol why does it even bother with P2P on the downloader |
| 09:59.26 | amro | 2mb * 5million is a lot of load on a server |
| 09:59.32 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:59.50 | Nom- | yeah, but i got 2.6MB from Blizzard, and 0.1MB from P2P |
| 09:59.53 | Nom- | It's not even worth the overhead |
| 10:00.13 | Corrodias | most of us already have it |
| 10:00.21 | Corrodias | and are no longer sharing it |
| 10:01.56 | Xenok | norgs . when i try to /dump line 3 of that pasty it says that in ZONE_DATA[zone]:insert({ x, y }); insert is a nil value |
| 10:02.23 | Corrodias | [asleep] |
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| 10:05.57 | norgs | Xenok: ok... let me load it up ingame |
| 10:06.59 | norgs | http://wowi.pastey.net/7856 |
| 10:07.20 | Nom- | yay they toned down some of the dungeons we struggled with |
| 10:07.45 | Xenok | LOL norgs.. just found that.. was acutally fixing it when you linked that |
| 10:07.48 | norgs | ok... just add coordinates like: /run addCoords(GetPlayerMapPosition("player")) |
| 10:08.12 | norgs | and then once you've added a few, do a: /run dumpCoords() |
| 10:08.22 | Xenok | aight |
| 10:11.07 | Xenok | I do a /dump addCoords(x, y) and it gives me the same error |
| 10:11.37 | Xenok | oh no wait |
| 10:11.40 | Xenok | nvm |
| 10:16.17 | Xenok | ok cool .. it displayed it in chat |
| 10:16.23 | Xenok | so it works |
| 10:16.27 | leethal | would making a "/cast [if the target does not have hunters mark] Hunters Mark" be doable? |
| 10:16.40 | leethal | or is that one of the big no-no things in 2.0? |
| 10:17.38 | cladhaire | leethal: No-no |
| 10:18.04 | leethal | harbl =( |
| 10:20.23 | Nom- | omg |
| 10:20.31 | Nom- | i got killed by a pom pyro in mid air |
| 10:20.37 | Nom- | and im too high to rez or be rezzed |
| 10:20.45 | Xenok | open a ticket :P |
| 10:21.00 | nevcairiel | get someone to sign you up for arena |
| 10:21.04 | nevcairiel | you get ressed then :p |
| 10:21.10 | Xenok | lol true |
| 10:21.20 | cladhaire | or any battleground |
| 10:21.27 | Xenok | beat me to it clad T_T |
| 10:21.45 | nevcairiel | generally arenas have less waiting time, except you are on a funky realm of course :) |
| 10:21.59 | cladhaire | i am |
| 10:22.00 | cladhaire | heh |
| 10:22.16 | Xenok | thats not good |
| 10:22.17 | Xenok | lol |
| 10:23.58 | norgs | Xenok: gotta go - good luck with your project |
| 10:24.02 | Xenok | ty cya |
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| 10:26.14 | leethal | aguf is supposed to show pet happiness somehow, right? |
| 10:27.11 | Shirik | thou shalt use the default blizzard party frames! |
| 10:27.20 | Shirik | well at least until DUF is released |
| 10:27.47 | Xenok | DUF? |
| 10:27.48 | cladhaire | gypsyftw |
| 10:28.37 | leethal | aw ye, gief DUF |
| 10:28.49 | leethal | there is a sort-of-working port around I believe |
| 10:28.55 | Xenok | wtf is DUF? |
| 10:28.58 | leethal | I use DFM for some minor details atm |
| 10:29.01 | leethal | Discord Unit Frames |
| 10:29.04 | Xenok | ah |
| 10:29.06 | leethal | discordmods.com |
| 10:29.09 | Xenok | >.> |
| 10:29.15 | Xenok | I remember now |
| 10:29.33 | leethal | some damn nice UIs have been made with duf I tell ya |
| 10:30.23 | leethal | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/forum_UI.pl?forum=UI&page=1&sortby=rating+DESC |
| 10:31.08 | Xenok | WTF?! http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showUI.pl?msgnum=1021 |
| 10:31.14 | Xenok | how to make THAT |
| 10:31.26 | leethal | =P |
| 10:31.28 | leethal | discord art |
| 10:31.37 | Xenok | omg |
| 10:31.57 | Xenok | i know where to go to make my next addon then :P |
| 10:33.18 | Xenok | is there like a tutorial on how to make those? |
| 10:33.48 | leethal | not really |
| 10:33.49 | Xenok | those are just awomse |
| 10:33.52 | leethal | and the mod is not around anymore |
| 10:33.55 | Xenok | awww!! |
| 10:33.56 | leethal | 2.0 pwd them |
| 10:34.00 | Xenok | CRAP |
| 10:34.13 | leethal | it's sort of around |
| 10:34.18 | Xenok | orly |
| 10:34.27 | leethal | you'll use a month to figure out how it works though |
| 10:34.37 | Xenok | hah prolly right |
| 10:34.41 | leethal | http://discord.tetzfiles.com/ |
| 10:35.08 | Xenok | cool |
| 10:36.18 | leethal | it was worth it =P |
| 10:36.24 | leethal | we got zomfg lots of nice stuff |
| 10:36.29 | Xenok | true |
| 10:36.39 | leethal | and stupid asshole addons like decursive got pwnd |
| 10:36.46 | leethal | I hate addons like that, ruins the fun |
| 10:36.54 | Xenok | whats decursive? |
| 10:37.18 | leethal | as soon as someone gets decursed, you'll get noticed, then you just click a button to decurse. If many get decursed at the same time, all you have to do is mash a button |
| 10:37.26 | leethal | instead of being clever about it |
| 10:37.34 | Xenok | aw |
| 10:37.37 | leethal | now I use clique for decursing, and it works great |
| 10:38.12 | Xenok | the one with the bunny? I remember something with the name like that and had a button with a bunny |
| 10:38.20 | Xenok | in the spellbook |
| 10:38.37 | leethal | yep =D |
| 10:38.50 | Xenok | hehe |
| 10:39.25 | Xenok | oh http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5699.jpg .... can't tell if its a bunny or not |
| 10:41.11 | leethal | who knows =/ |
| 10:41.36 | Xenok | hehe |
| 10:41.42 | leethal | rocks it does |
| 10:41.50 | Xenok | I never figured out how to use it |
| 10:41.55 | leethal | something goes purple => ctrl + left click |
| 10:42.08 | leethal | you open your spellbook, and click a spell the way you want it assigned |
| 10:42.29 | leethal | for instance, if you want ctrl + left click on a party member decurse them, you ctlr = left click on the decurse spell in the spellbook |
| 10:42.41 | Xenok | ohhh |
| 10:42.42 | leethal | you do the same with heals, hots, buffs and what not |
| 10:42.49 | Xenok | cool |
| 10:43.11 | Xenok | saves button space too |
| 10:43.26 | leethal | ya |
| 10:43.38 | leethal | super fast to use |
| 10:43.42 | Xenok | cool |
| 10:43.49 | leethal | to heal someone, you click one button, not two |
| 10:43.57 | leethal | click, instead of 1. target 2. click the spell |
| 10:44.07 | Xenok | right |
| 10:44.10 | Xenok | thats cool |
| 10:44.24 | Xenok | and on that note. i better go.. bee nconnected for 10 hours.. |
| 10:44.30 | Xenok | hehe |
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| 11:17.53 | Nom- | blah anyone know what puts a frame called "CoolDown Monitor" in the middle of the screen? |
| 11:18.02 | subbot | hmm |
| 11:18.10 | subbot | ora2 |
| 11:18.13 | subbot | maybe? |
| 11:18.19 | haste | most likely |
| 11:19.02 | Nom- | that was it |
| 11:19.02 | Nom- | ta |
| 11:19.10 | Nom- | stupid think kept stealing my mouse clicks |
| 11:19.12 | Kaso | check it the frame's name with dtframestack ? |
| 11:19.16 | Kaso | ah too late :< |
| 11:25.42 | leethal | think it's ora2, yes |
| 11:25.50 | leethal | oh, solved. nvm me |
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| 11:34.15 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5075.new#new |
| 11:34.17 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 11:34.53 | leethal | huh? |
| 11:36.08 | Industrial | i was bored :p |
| 11:37.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:37.11 | nevcairiel | that thread was so useless anyway |
| 11:37.20 | nevcairiel | and you really keep smiting him indy ? :P |
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| 11:44.32 | subbot | All raid frame mods should be required to have a testing mode |
| 11:44.44 | subbot | so i don't have to wait for AV to pop every time i feel like tinkering with my UI |
| 11:44.46 | leethal | yes!! |
| 11:44.53 | leethal | yes, yes, yes |
| 11:45.00 | [dRaCo] | #3 |
| 11:45.14 | leethal | grid has it <3 |
| 11:45.22 | subbot | hmm does it really? |
| 11:45.30 | Industrial | < nevcairiel> and you really keep smiting him indy ? :P |
| 11:45.31 | leethal | well, sort of |
| 11:45.33 | Industrial | its not me, honestly. |
| 11:45.42 | Industrial | nevcairiel: how do you think i got my -200+ karma |
| 11:45.44 | subbot | well that's what i use |
| 11:45.46 | leethal | you can tell it to always show, so you'll get a frame with just yourself |
| 11:45.55 | leethal | you can't fill it with a raid though |
| 11:46.05 | subbot | that doesn't cut it :( |
| 11:46.13 | Nom- | Did they nerf the assassins in Shadow Labs ? |
| 11:46.21 | leethal | yes |
| 11:46.30 | subbot | they are still as strong, i believe, but they ambush less often |
| 11:46.47 | leethal | ya, less. still imba, but less of themw |
| 11:46.47 | [dRaCo] | at least that's what the patch log says ;) |
| 11:47.35 | subbot | they're really no fun in heroic |
| 11:47.48 | Industrial | btw since when do rogue mobs backstab you |
| 11:48.03 | subbot | there have always been mobs that backstab |
| 11:48.09 | Industrial | i was like "woohm" (backstab noise) 20%hp.. at level 6 :p |
| 11:48.22 | subbot | that's what you get for running away! |
| 11:49.45 | subbot | i need to make a series of macros that loads specific profiles for specific addons |
| 11:50.09 | leethal | or use ace |
| 11:50.18 | leethal | (ace addons) |
| 11:50.26 | subbot | I use a lot of ace addons |
| 11:50.27 | leethal | they are nice, saving profiles wise |
| 11:50.31 | subbot | i mean a macro that does like |
| 11:50.48 | subbot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.53 | subbot | and the same thing for 5man |
| 11:50.57 | leethal | mm |
| 11:51.00 | leethal | possible, probably |
| 11:51.21 | leethal | all ace addons has that me thinks |
| 11:51.58 | subbot | yeah i think so |
| 11:52.37 | leethal | ./aceaddon profile choose NAME |
| 11:53.57 | subbot | I also think i should get rid of fubar |
| 11:54.05 | subbot | i only really use it for the clock and performance monitor |
| 11:54.24 | subbot | and i drag it across my screen to make things line up :P |
| 11:56.03 | leethal | =/ |
| 11:56.09 | leethal | less is more |
| 11:56.15 | leethal | I finally have the interface of my dreams |
| 11:58.04 | leethal | hm, where can I upload it for bragging? |
| 11:58.38 | subbot | i think i need to run the repair tool |
| 11:58.49 | subbot | wow keeps crashing while im in av |
| 11:58.57 | subbot | and it doesn't save my settings :( |
| 11:59.03 | subbot | it's very annoying since im just in there to configure my UI |
| 11:59.19 | leethal | doing a /rl saves it |
| 11:59.24 | leethal | I tend to do that when doing changes, just in case |
| 11:59.37 | subbot | well it's all minor stuff |
| 11:59.53 | subbot | like i'll drag my casting bar down a bit and resize it |
| 12:00.04 | subbot | and then i'll mount up to see how it looks and start hopping around |
| 12:00.06 | subbot | and wow will crash |
| 12:01.19 | subbot | maybe i should restart my computer |
| 12:01.44 | subbot | Yeah i haven't restarted my computer in 3 weeks and 1 day |
| 12:02.23 | subbot | i want to see your interface, though, leethal |
| 12:02.31 | leethal | where do I upload it? |
| 12:02.42 | subbot | imageshack.us |
| 12:02.59 | subbot | you don't have to sign up there at least |
| 12:04.02 | subbot | i like looking at people's ui's |
| 12:05.59 | subbot | Oh and less isn't more, especially if you have a terrible computer :P |
| 12:06.43 | Industrial | is too |
| 12:06.43 | Industrial | :D |
| 12:06.46 | leethal | uploading now |
| 12:06.55 | Kaso | Anyone a mage with ice barrier? |
| 12:07.06 | subbot | Why do you ask, Kaso? |
| 12:07.07 | leethal | bah, flickr ftw |
| 12:07.09 | leethal | yes, Kaso |
| 12:07.34 | Kaso | I want to know if Ice barrier is still at 10% of +dmg/frost or if it went upto 20% with PW:shield |
| 12:07.52 | subbot | i believe the buff to power word shield was to soften the blow of the prayer of mending nerf |
| 12:08.27 | Kaso | yes.. but im not sure how thats quite pertinant? |
| 12:09.00 | leethal | subbot: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/413561205_9f898279cf_o.jpg and http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/413561203_91b44382e6_o.jpg |
| 12:09.23 | leethal | subbot: minor tweaks since then, but pretty much the same |
| 12:09.59 | subbot | not bad |
| 12:10.05 | leethal | oh, cool, I got my 936 shield slam crit in there too =D |
| 12:10.25 | leethal | ever used miks scrolling battle text? |
| 12:10.55 | subbot | I've never been a fan of scrolling combat text |
| 12:10.58 | leethal | anyways, I removed the notification area, and tweaked the heals to show just the amount, not the healer |
| 12:10.59 | subbot | i use it right now |
| 12:11.19 | leethal | me neither, cause it cluttered the screen. That's why I moved it down to the bottom right corner |
| 12:11.37 | subbot | I think I would like it if i took the time to properly configure it |
| 12:11.56 | leethal | mm, I did that this time, removing all the messages I didn't need |
| 12:12.54 | subbot | My biggest problem with configuring my UI has always been organizing my unit frames |
| 12:13.51 | subbot | I can't figure out a logical and eye pleasing way to show target, target's target, and target of target's target |
| 12:13.52 | leethal | I'm happy as they are now. Me to the left, target to the right, hp of targettarget in the middle |
| 12:14.06 | leethal | targettargettarget =/ |
| 12:14.11 | leethal | who needs that |
| 12:14.15 | subbot | priests :) |
| 12:14.42 | subbot | when 95% of the time you're targetting a friendly target |
| 12:15.00 | leethal | and you want the target of the friendly targets target? |
| 12:15.08 | leethal | also, use clique and never target again :O |
| 12:15.11 | subbot | if you're targetting non-healers, then their target of target's target is someone who's taking damage |
| 12:15.21 | subbot | i don't like click casting |
| 12:15.56 | subbot | i have the combat text for my target displayed |
| 12:16.08 | subbot | so i have an idea of their incoming damage |
| 12:16.57 | subbot | leethal: you need an error message spam removing mod |
| 12:17.04 | leethal | yep, totally |
| 12:17.13 | subbot | 5 lines of "ability not ready yet" on your screen :p |
| 12:17.14 | leethal | I tried removing the frame, but that confused me when I get full bags |
| 12:17.26 | leethal | but I'm trying to not mash buttons too |
| 12:17.29 | leethal | mashing is no good |
| 12:17.31 | subbot | I used to use RogueSpam on my priest |
| 12:17.39 | subbot | you could filter specific error messages |
| 12:17.41 | subbot | and add your own |
| 12:18.07 | subbot | im not sure if RogueSpam has even been updated in the past 8 months though |
| 12:18.10 | subbot | lol |
| 12:19.11 | subbot | Okay time to restart the computer |
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| 12:27.50 | subbawt | Someone needs to make a cooldown monitor that realizes when I have been counterspelled, and doesn't show every spell in my holy tree as having a 10 second cooldown. |
| 12:30.48 | wobin | Which they do... don't they? |
| 12:31.00 | subbawt | None that i have found |
| 12:31.11 | wobin | well doesn't it prevent you from casting from that school for a short while? |
| 12:31.24 | subbawt | right |
| 12:31.24 | wobin | I thought that was the point =) |
| 12:31.42 | subbawt | but i don't need to see that 20 spells that i have are all on cooldown |
| 12:31.48 | subbawt | it should recognize that the entire tree is on cooldown :P |
| 12:31.52 | dieck | ack. I actually LOVE the countdowns on every single spell. So I can see at a glance which spells are still castable |
| 12:31.53 | wobin | Why not? =P |
| 12:31.57 | wobin | exactly |
| 12:32.03 | Kaso | you'd want something like "Holy : 10sec cooldown" ? |
| 12:32.07 | wobin | So you don't go hammering on a spell |
| 12:32.12 | subbawt | Im talking about a cooldown monitor |
| 12:32.13 | wobin | and then realise, oh crap, it's a holy spell |
| 12:32.18 | subbawt | not something that puts a number over the action buttons |
| 12:32.24 | wobin | oh |
| 12:32.27 | subbawt | i don't have visible buttons at all |
| 12:32.29 | wobin | in that case you're on your own =P |
| 12:32.38 | subbawt | Kaso: yeah like that |
| 12:32.54 | Kaso | wouldnt be all that hard to program in |
| 12:33.07 | wobin | well volunteered! |
| 12:33.19 | subbawt | Im using the mod coolDown, i don't believe it has been updated in a while |
| 12:33.20 | Kaso | by the author :> |
| 12:33.22 | subbawt | but it works fine |
| 12:34.14 | leethal | get naturs enemy cast bar |
| 12:34.28 | Industrial | theres lots of cooldown mods. |
| 12:34.30 | subbawt | too bulky |
| 12:34.51 | subbawt | I really like the way coolDown looks though |
| 12:35.33 | subbawt | NECB does too many things that I don't want |
| 12:36.27 | dieck | go into the code and disable what you don't like :) |
| 12:36.50 | subbawt | That and I'm not even sure it does what I want :P |
| 12:37.11 | subbawt | and it _definitely_ doesn't look the way I want it to |
| 12:37.12 | dieck | go into the code and implement what you want? ;) |
| 12:37.16 | wobin | Heals your raid |
| 12:37.19 | wobin | Makes cookies |
| 12:37.37 | wobin | digs a complex series of interconnecting tunnels |
| 12:37.45 | subbawt | It's a great mod |
| 12:39.44 | subbawt | I hate saying negative things about mods here |
| 12:39.48 | subbawt | just in case the author is hanging around |
| 12:40.14 | subbawt | "Oh man that perfect raid su... hey cladhaire" |
| 12:41.32 | zenzelezz | there's a difference between saying negative things and saying that it's not to your taste |
| 12:41.48 | subbawt | Yeah i try to make that clear :P |
| 12:43.13 | zenzelezz | hrm, the Blizzard Downloader claims I'm behind a firewall, but unless they changed the ports it uses it shouldn't be seeing that |
| 12:43.21 | leethal | cooldown conut rocks too |
| 12:43.22 | zenzelezz | also claims the tracker is down |
| 12:43.30 | leethal | s/conut/count |
| 12:44.02 | subbawt | It does very little for me, since I don't use action bars. |
| 12:44.29 | leethal | don't use action bars O_o |
| 12:44.37 | leethal | screenshot or it didn't happen! |
| 12:44.48 | subbawt | I bind all of my spells directly to keys using the mod BindPad |
| 12:45.00 | leethal | show me that ui |
| 12:45.14 | subbawt | It's in a transition phase :P |
| 12:45.16 | subbawt | but i'll take a screenshot |
| 12:45.18 | leethal | I never use my action bars either, so gief link for inspiration |
| 12:45.21 | leethal | yes please =D |
| 12:45.44 | subbawt | Im just sitting in shattrath |
| 12:45.46 | subbawt | so nothing much to see |
| 12:46.09 | subbawt | Ooh AV just popped. |
| 12:46.13 | leethal | clever =D |
| 12:46.31 | leethal | what a splendid idea.. I always wanted a super-clean ui.. and it simply didn't struck me to remove those action bars |
| 12:46.49 | leethal | wow, silly english |
| 12:47.40 | subbawt | Right now mine is very clean, a little too clean to be functional actually |
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| 12:48.54 | leethal | all I need is my health, my rage, targets health, who the targetoftarget is, and chat |
| 12:49.18 | subbawt | http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=subbawtui2wv2.png |
| 12:49.41 | subbawt | (i'm configuring it for 10 man raids currently, that's why only 10 people on grid even though im in AV) |
| 12:52.22 | subbawt | I need some way to make sure things are centered properly |
| 12:52.33 | subbawt | I need a mod that puts a bunch of grid lines over my UI |
| 12:53.22 | zenzelezz | not bad |
| 12:53.57 | zenzelezz | I've been meaning to make myself a clean UI sometime, but I'm too lazy... so for now I use http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/ui.jpg |
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| 12:54.30 | subbawt | Interesting HUD |
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| 12:57.29 | subbawt | I've never seen one that just had plain vertical bars. |
| 12:57.41 | subbawt | I kind of like it, even though I've never really used a HUD. |
| 12:58.27 | Industrial | you can use a bar addon to only show 12 buttons, working with shift/ctrl/alt and stances to swap bar pages. (eg bartender3) |
| 12:58.41 | Industrial | and then the other buttons and cruft somewhere else |
| 12:58.44 | Industrial | or on mouseover |
| 12:58.48 | zenzelezz | I just use it because I always felt I was very low on health when I really wasn't; the default player portrait bars seem to hide a portion of your health |
| 12:59.07 | zenzelezz | *player portrait health/rage bars |
| 12:59.24 | subbawt | something about Alterac Valley causes wow to crash for me, this is annoying :( |
| 12:59.29 | leethal | looking at the shot now |
| 12:59.37 | leethal | aw, that's cool |
| 12:59.43 | Industrial | then, you can remove the chat buttons and background and place it totally bottomleft |
| 12:59.45 | leethal | grid instead of action bars =D |
| 13:00.23 | leethal | how did you style autobar like that? (I guess it's autobar ya?) |
| 13:00.29 | subbawt | I don't have target of target's target in that screenshot, simply because I can't figure out how to oranize it |
| 13:00.43 | subbawt | Yes. Im using cyCircled for the skin. |
| 13:00.53 | subbawt | (that's the name of the mod) |
| 13:01.16 | leethal | ah, clever place to have fubar too |
| 13:01.28 | leethal | nice nice, I'll adapt http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/413561203_91b44382e6_o.jpg into something more like that |
| 13:01.46 | leethal | and use some cooldown addon to tell me whet actions are ready, instead of using the action bars for that |
| 13:02.01 | subbawt | i use the mod "coolDown" for that |
| 13:02.07 | subbawt | it was the one i was describing earlier |
| 13:02.15 | leethal | checking |
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| 13:02.17 | subbawt | It has some weird dependency though |
| 13:02.22 | subbawt | iFrameManager, or something like that |
| 13:02.38 | leethal | the one called coolDown was last updated 12/06/2006 =/ |
| 13:02.52 | subbawt | it works fine |
| 13:03.29 | leethal | does it show everything that has a cooldown? |
| 13:03.34 | leethal | except global, of course |
| 13:03.37 | subbawt | my only problem with it is the minimap icon for it didn't want to detach |
| 13:03.42 | subbawt | yep leethal |
| 13:03.50 | subbawt | I really like the way it looks too |
| 13:03.50 | leethal | could get messy, as warriors has tons of short cooldowns |
| 13:04.08 | subbawt | I used to use another one |
| 13:04.15 | subbawt | but it had some annoying problems |
| 13:04.25 | leethal | thanks for that, I'll take a look at it |
| 13:04.33 | subbawt | like whenever I would mount, it would show the cooldown for all the mounts on my bag |
| 13:05.05 | nevcairiel | mounts have cooldown? |
| 13:05.21 | zenzelezz | small one, yes |
| 13:05.23 | subbawt | 3 seconds, for whatever reason. |
| 13:05.42 | zenzelezz | try to mount up under a rock, only to get unmounted and curse the cooldown :-p |
| 13:05.50 | zenzelezz | I've done that so many times while farming ore |
| 13:06.09 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 13:24.25 | wereHamster | subbawt, do you want me to fix coolDown? :P |
| 13:26.04 | subbawt | it works fine |
| 13:26.14 | subbawt | I would just like a few changes :P |
| 13:26.26 | zenzelezz | someone kick the EU tracker |
| 13:26.50 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with it? |
| 13:26.55 | zenzelezz | doesn't respond |
| 13:27.02 | nevcairiel | like 7 hours ago, i could download fine from it :) |
| 13:28.33 | wereHamster | subbawt, you can make coolDown display only one icon for all mounts, you only need to know the item IDs of all your mouts and the texture you want to replace them with. |
| 13:28.49 | subbawt | coolDown doesn't have the mount problem |
| 13:28.52 | subbawt | that was an older mod |
| 13:29.40 | leethal | subbawt: by the way.. what did you use to assign spells to the keyboard? You mentioned a mod, didn't you? |
| 13:29.57 | subbawt | bindpad |
| 13:30.05 | wereHamster | oh.. I know why.. coolDown won't show item cooldowns other than for consumables |
| 13:31.21 | subbawt | Hrm i need a buff mod |
| 13:32.12 | Industrial | playing with wowhead is fun. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TVMx0hbZVV0VgxoVkVoc |
| 13:34.43 | leethal | Industrial: wowhead > all |
| 13:34.57 | leethal | and woot, commanding presence wins |
| 13:35.07 | leethal | gotta log on to my warrior and check :O |
| 13:46.59 | Kaso | Grr |
| 13:47.13 | Kaso | i hate the way every addon has a different style for its minimap button |
| 13:47.24 | subbawt | get rid of them |
| 13:48.00 | Kaso | can't we all get along and use blizzard's default template |
| 13:48.01 | wobin | they're all kinda circular, aren't they? |
| 13:48.05 | Kaso | yah but they arent identical |
| 13:48.13 | Kaso | they all have slightly different borders |
| 13:48.16 | Kaso | they dont match |
| 13:48.22 | sysrage | squeenix is square. and it's the best one |
| 13:48.28 | wobin | "You are all individuals!" |
| 13:48.46 | Kaso | take this pitcture |
| 13:48.47 | Kaso | http://kasoo.net/img/imgs/WoWScrnShot_122006_200602.jpg |
| 13:48.50 | Kaso | i know its a crap setup |
| 13:49.05 | Kaso | but three addon minimap buttons each with thier own border |
| 13:49.14 | Kaso | only mine (the Hz one) matchs blizzard's |
| 13:50.04 | Kaso | actually the SW is pretty close |
| 13:50.12 | sysrage | lol that screenshot is why i can't play a healer |
| 13:50.30 | sysrage | can't see anything but health bars and crap |
| 13:50.39 | Kaso | Why do i need to see anything else :> |
| 13:50.50 | sysrage | i'm glad you enjoy it. i'd hate it |
| 13:52.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | after a while i stopped bothering with pulling out raid frames |
| 13:52.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just focused on my group and the tanks |
| 13:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and had a priest one out for innervates |
| 13:53.27 | subbawt | we always had two groups that were all healers |
| 13:53.34 | Kaso | i feel out of control if i cant see everyones health, i like to know whats happening incase things take a turn for the worse and some emergancy healing is needed |
| 13:54.20 | wobin | Kaso: tbh, I can't really see that much difference between all the minimap buttons =) |
| 13:54.34 | Kaso | Little things tend to infurate me :> |
| 13:54.47 | subbawt | so if i healed only my group i would have been healing like 2 priests, a shaman and a druid |
| 13:54.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems to be common with a lot of goons |
| 13:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | they get all riled up over inane stuff :p |
| 13:55.53 | subbawt | Patchwerk, i can't say i miss doing that boss |
| 13:57.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont get bothered easily but that black space to the right of the combat log makes we want to drive over a herd of puppies and kittens with a steamroller |
| 13:57.44 | Kaso | thats where whispers should go, but noone likes me :( |
| 13:57.54 | wobin | =( |
| 13:58.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont even have my combat log exposed |
| 13:58.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i swap to it as necessary |
| 13:58.29 | subbawt | I like being able to see mine |
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| 13:59.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | spellalertSCT+castbars = more than i need |
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| 14:00.00 | subbawt | im always the one in raids, that after a tank dies or something, and the raid leaders are like "zomg you let the tank die" |
| 14:00.15 | subbawt | i can say "he got hit for four crushing blows in less than a second, for a total of 19k" |
| 14:01.09 | subbawt | and then i tell the tank to not turn his back to prince malchezaar :P |
| 14:01.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:02.27 | zenzelezz | that was always fun on Noth, when I was tanking a bunch of skeletons, and moved around slightly to put them all in front of me... and the healers started whining |
| 14:03.15 | subbawt | i hated that fight |
| 14:03.20 | subbawt | especially after they nerfed decursive |
| 14:03.37 | subbawt | i don't know how many times we wiped at 1% because at 5% all the mages thought they could just spam fireball |
| 14:03.43 | subbawt | and not bother decursing |
| 14:03.47 | subbawt | and then everyone died |
| 14:04.35 | Kaso | it is quite funny how fast you die from a missed dispell |
| 14:04.59 | subbawt | one time someone didn't decurse me |
| 14:05.07 | subbawt | and i looked in my combat log, because he insisted that he did |
| 14:05.32 | subbawt | and it said [druid] fails to remove subbawt's whateverthenameofthedebuff was |
| 14:07.23 | Kaso | I didnt know that still could happen, i remeber seeing it a bit back in the old days, but i havent noticed failed to dispell for ages |
| 14:09.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | poisons are bugged atm |
| 14:09.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | specifically rogue poisons iirc |
| 14:09.37 | subbawt | how is that |
| 14:10.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're taking a TON of effort to remove, even without the dispel resist talent |
| 14:10.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | like, 5+ recasts of cure poison |
| 14:10.44 | wobin | yeah, they're a bit huggy atm |
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| 14:16.51 | wereHamster | what? can dispel fail? |
| 14:17.27 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:18.19 | zenzelezz | bah, I forgot conditional #show was 2.1.0, not 2.0.10 |
| 14:18.23 | wereHamster | is that new? |
| 14:18.37 | wobin | damnit |
| 14:18.41 | wobin | I got that confused too =P |
| 14:18.52 | wobin | I was waiting for someone to come up with the addon memory addon =P |
| 14:19.00 | wobin | And was wondering why the patch was so small =P |
| 14:19.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:20.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is blasphemy |
| 14:20.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is madness |
| 14:21.49 | Industrial | anyone got some puzzle games that arent hard? I just wanna pass time :p |
| 14:21.52 | Industrial | :x |
| 14:22.31 | Kaso | oh yes |
| 14:22.54 | Kaso | http://intihuatani.usc.edu/cloud/flowing/ |
| 14:23.05 | Kaso | awesome game not hard at all |
| 14:23.15 | Industrial | ooooh flow |
| 14:23.17 | Industrial | thats fun |
| 14:24.04 | wobin | There was that jumping cat bell one |
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| 14:38.01 | [BB]TheZanke | Is it possible to open up a browser page from WoW? Or display one... |
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| 14:40.05 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:40.39 | [BB]TheZanke | cant even pull the contets of a page? |
| 14:42.34 | Kaso | The wow UI is in a sandbox, we have no access to the outside world, short of saved variables |
| 14:42.44 | Kaso | that and copy-pasting |
| 14:42.55 | Kaso | (ie asking your user to) |
| 14:43.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | be nice if they implemented k-meleon and a simple irc client into wow though |
| 14:43.45 | ag` | but that's the problem |
| 14:43.58 | ag` | you would be able to set up a local IRC server and bam, you're around the sandbox |
| 14:44.02 | sysrage | dual monitors or a second computer FTW |
| 14:44.15 | zenzelezz | dual monitors and a second computer |
| 14:44.23 | sysrage | that too :) |
| 14:44.32 | ag` | one computer + one laptop? :S |
| 14:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a laptop i use for irc and firefox |
| 14:44.47 | zenzelezz | nope, normal computer and mini-ITX |
| 14:44.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | my desktop is purely for gaming |
| 14:44.48 | sysrage | same |
| 14:44.57 | zenzelezz | IRC and web on the small one, "real stuff" on big one |
| 14:50.06 | [BB]TheZanke | what about that thing from cosmos that would find all the players and stuff online and then upload it to them....census i think... |
| 14:50.29 | [BB]TheZanke | that went outside the (sand)box |
| 14:50.56 | zenzelezz | never used it, but I imagine they used an external program of some sort to help |
| 14:50.59 | nevcairiel | you can get stuff out of wow using the saved variables |
| 14:51.01 | nevcairiel | but not in again. |
| 14:52.25 | wereHamster | Kaso, flowing.. that'sa very nice game :) |
| 14:52.41 | [BB]TheZanke | so in theory you COULD get a URL to IE/FireFox? |
| 14:52.58 | [BB]TheZanke | just they couldnt give any info back to WoW |
| 14:53.09 | Kaso | Not automatically |
| 14:53.36 | Kaso | you'd have to have the user reload the UI, then have a third party addon to scan the SV's |
| 14:55.12 | [BB]TheZanke | so there would be no way to make it so if someone did "/armory Thezanke-Skullcruser" it opened FF to "http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Skullcrusher&n=Thezanke" |
| 14:55.28 | zenzelezz | no |
| 14:55.33 | zenzelezz | WoW can not open Firefox |
| 14:56.08 | [BB]TheZanke | that sucks |
| 14:56.18 | [BB]TheZanke | i was really looking forward to making that |
| 14:56.30 | [BB]TheZanke | cause i am tired of looking people up manually |
| 14:56.33 | wereHamster | I bet lua doesn't use the microsoft (msvcrt) snprintf() etc functions, I once tried whether I can string.format() in lua and intercept that in one of the msvcrt string functions.. but nothing ever showed up |
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| 14:57.47 | [BB]TheZanke | sysrage, i have dual monitors btw... but automation doesnt hurt |
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| 14:58.11 | [BB]TheZanke | sysrage, dual 22" samsung LCDs to be exact -.* |
| 14:59.08 | Kaso | TheZanke, the only way to do it would be to have a third party app monitoring changes to the saved variables |
| 14:59.45 | [BB]TheZanke | wouldnt that cause a bunch of unwanted cpu usage? |
| 15:00.21 | wereHamster | doesn't windows have inotify? :P |
| 15:00.53 | [BB]TheZanke | i guess all windows is is a bunch of uwanted cpu usage |
| 15:00.54 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 15:01.01 | zenzelezz | @ were |
| 15:01.10 | [BB]TheZanke | but until they make wow and ventrilo for linux i am stuck on this partition |
| 15:01.20 | Kaso | wow works on linux |
| 15:01.25 | [BB]TheZanke | not well |
| 15:01.25 | Kaso | and i think some people have vent working too |
| 15:01.30 | [BB]TheZanke | no |
| 15:01.34 | Kaso | Works just as well as windows i believe |
| 15:01.39 | Kaso | (wow that is) |
| 15:01.40 | [BB]TheZanke | i have been looking for months for vent |
| 15:01.55 | Kaso | lemme check if i have the link |
| 15:02.05 | Kaso | cant say ive tried vent in linux but wow works just fine for me |
| 15:02.08 | [BB]TheZanke | they dont wanna make a linux version cause of their precious code can get stolen |
| 15:02.21 | [BB]TheZanke | vent i mean |
| 15:02.45 | nevcairiel | why cant they release binary-only linux versions? should be quite safe |
| 15:02.51 | [BB]TheZanke | oh yeah... and xfire |
| 15:03.18 | [BB]TheZanke | a lot of my friends only use XFire |
| 15:03.51 | [BB]TheZanke | and they say that the majority of gamers are on windows so they are focusing on just windows.... |
| 15:04.18 | [BB]TheZanke | discrimintive b@5tards |
| 15:05.31 | [BB]TheZanke | ironically, i play on windows cause they are on windows and they are on windows because we play on windows... |
| 15:05.34 | [BB]TheZanke | paradox... |
| 15:06.12 | wereHamster | it's all because of bill |
| 15:06.15 | wereHamster | .. bill gates |
| 15:06.23 | Kaso | I sware i read something about vent on wine yesterday |
| 15:06.25 | [BB]TheZanke | lol |
| 15:06.29 | Kaso | i cant find it for the life of me |
| 15:06.45 | [BB]TheZanke | i tried that... errored |
| 15:06.50 | [BB]TheZanke | i could connect tho |
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| 15:18.59 | wereHamster | [BB]TheZanke, did you take a look at http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3936? seems liek evnt works quite well... |
| 15:23.40 | amro | yeah you can get vent to work, but it runs slower |
| 15:26.04 | [BB]TheZanke | What does not |
| 15:26.05 | [BB]TheZanke | * Push-to-talk when window not active (workaround available) |
| 15:26.18 | [BB]TheZanke | i dont call that quite well...lol |
| 15:28.10 | Kaso | workaround available ... ? |
| 15:28.43 | [BB]TheZanke | right but if vent just made a port... |
| 15:28.46 | wereHamster | An experimental program has been hacked together by Toni Spets which allows using a Push-To-Talk key from outside the Ventrilo window |
| 15:28.49 | [BB]TheZanke | then it would work amazingly |
| 15:29.40 | wereHamster | [BB]TheZanke, that's just as likely to happen as blizzard making a native linux client.. |
| 15:30.15 | haste | not quite [BB]TheZanke |
| 15:30.28 | haste | unless the random crashing when two people speaks is fixed now |
| 15:30.39 | haste | and the fact that you can only hear one of them |
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| 15:44.40 | amro | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 |
| 15:48.04 | Kaso|afk | I love the steps to repeat |
| 15:48.59 | amro | yeah, it's easy to reproduce |
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| 16:35.35 | Elkano | Cairenn, mind putting FramesResized ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4547-ElkanosFramesResized.html ) back into "General GUI Mods"? |
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| 16:54.20 | Cairenn | Elkano: done |
| 16:55.06 | Elkano | /hug Cairenn |
| 16:55.47 | Elkano | and if you are in the process: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6018-ElkanosItemDB-TBC.html is still left from the TBC beta mods |
| 16:56.31 | Cairenn | and you'd like me to do what with it? |
| 16:59.10 | Elkano | well, I thought it would vanish with the tbc beta section but it didn't so feel fre to simply remove it |
| 17:00.04 | cogwheel|work | Cairenn: didn't you send a mass mailing to all registered authors telling them to take care of this months ago? ;) |
| 17:00.17 | cogwheel|work | ~poke Elkano |
| 17:00.19 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Elkano, pokes Elkano repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:01.18 | Elkano | cogwheel|work, iirc it was "make sure you get your files over to the base sections as this section will vanish taking everything in it with it" |
| 17:01.30 | Cairenn | cogwheel|work: indeed, along with 2 or 3 postings on the news telling them to let us know how they'd like their BC mods dealt with |
| 17:01.55 | Elkano | maybe it went 'outdated' before getting deleted ^^' |
| 17:01.58 | Cairenn | Elkano: gone |
| 17:02.26 | Elkano | /me waves a goodbye to it |
| 17:02.35 | Cairenn | Elkano: I manually moved everything to the outdated section a month after the expansion came out, two months after 2.0 went live |
| 17:02.49 | Elkano | ah :) |
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| 17:04.34 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8424 http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8043 http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7907 http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7405 http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6985 |
| 17:05.02 | Cairenn | pick a news post, any news post, there's 5 there to choose from |
| 17:05.17 | cogwheel|work | Who reads news :P |
| 17:07.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Cairenn, where's that avatar from? |
| 17:07.38 | Cairenn | it's credited in my sig, but http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/48633019/ |
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| 17:08.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh so it is :) |
| 17:09.10 | Kirkburn|afk | I love dA |
| 17:09.16 | Cairenn | me too |
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| 17:13.24 | Kirkburn|afk | So, um, you're probably going to want to kick me but this also needs deleting I guess ^^ http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5478-ClearFont.html .... my excuse is, my RSS reader didn't pick up any recent posts. Um. |
| 17:14.59 | Cairenn | gone |
| 17:15.11 | zenzelezz | so Kirk, did you see that Aussie Office deal site you mentioned got flagged as phishing by the MS thingie? |
| 17:15.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Ta muchly! Tonight I will try and make myself put ClearFont2 on the UI sites. |
| 17:15.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Pwhaa? |
| 17:15.54 | zenzelezz | http://slashdot.org/articles/07/03/06/1740234.shtml |
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| 17:16.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:16.49 | nevcairiel | in your face! |
| 17:17.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Uh what? |
| 17:17.03 | zenzelezz | if it sounds too good to be true... |
| 17:17.06 | Kirkburn|afk | No it doesn't |
| 17:17.42 | nevcairiel | so is it now phising or just a false-positive? |
| 17:17.48 | Kirkburn|afk | It doesn't get flagged on my IE7 non-OneCare XP install, and it doesn't get flagged on my IE7 OneCare Vista install |
| 17:17.58 | Kirkburn|afk | False positive, if that |
| 17:18.28 | zenzelezz | I'm fairly sure it's an incorrect positive, but apparently some people did get that warning :-p |
| 17:18.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Can you point them out to me? |
| 17:19.01 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 17:19.01 | Kirkburn|afk | All I see is the normal ./ anti-MS rants |
| 17:19.13 | Kirkburn|afk | I mean /. |
| 17:19.13 | zenzelezz | you're boring |
| 17:19.26 | Kirkburn|afk | No, I like people to actually have an open mind :) |
| 17:19.44 | zenzelezz | and you believe I'm actually anti-MS? |
| 17:19.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Cmon, you know /. is pro-linux and anti-MS, and digg is pro-Apple and anti-MS |
| 17:19.54 | cogwheel|work | I have an open mind... that's why i'm a libertarian in spite of my borderline communist upbringing... |
| 17:20.16 | wereHamster | Kirkburn|afk, and how's digg to linux? pro or anti? |
| 17:20.27 | Kirkburn|afk | zenzelezz, nah, just that most of the comments on /. turn into stupidity :) |
| 17:20.28 | cogwheel|work | And why I still occasionally try out PUGs for deadmines |
| 17:20.43 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't know of the general digg feeling on it |
| 17:20.52 | Kirkburn|afk | More likely pro than anti |
| 17:20.59 | Antiarc|Work | digg is generally pro-linux, but it's very casual |
| 17:21.00 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn|afk: comments don't count, I was only talking about the actual link |
| 17:21.27 | Antiarc|Work | ubuntu is the flavor of the month, as far as linux goes, diggwise |
| 17:21.41 | Antiarc|Work | Mostly because the apple crowd likes pretty shinies, I guess :D |
| 17:21.44 | Antiarc|Work | Ubuntu and Beryl |
| 17:22.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Well if it does occur it's silly :P |
| 17:22.47 | Kirkburn|afk | If anyone actually believes sites like /. and digg to be democratic, they're soo wrong |
| 17:23.03 | zenzelezz | nothing on the net is democratic |
| 17:23.11 | zenzelezz | that's like the second rule |
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| 17:23.16 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 17:23.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Mmm, Beryl is quite shiny - http://www.worldofrockhounds.com/beryl-gem-green.jpg |
| 17:25.05 | Antiarc|Work | Eh. True democracy is a bad idea in general, because by definition, half of the population are of below average intelligence :P |
| 17:25.21 | Antiarc|Work | Stuff like Digg tends to reinforce that idea. |
| 17:26.14 | Kirkburn|afk | Pisses me off when I see a story that happens to have something positive to say about MS disappears quickly from being buried, and any Apple post pretty much goes automatically to the front page. Grr. :) |
| 17:26.16 | zenzelezz | what was it someone said, "democracy is a way to make sure people are treated no better than they deserve" |
| 17:26.27 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 17:30.01 | Cairenn | I see you're all wound up as usual this morning cogwheel|work |
| 17:30.11 | cogwheel|work | =D |
| 17:30.26 | cogwheel|work | and yet... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=81968401&sid=1#7 |
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| 17:32.45 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.01 | Antiarc|Work | Does anyone know if there's a way to control camera roll in WoW? |
| 17:34.06 | Antiarc|Work | I know you can control pitch and yaw easily enough. |
| 17:34.16 | Antiarc|Work | But if I can roll the camera, I will be stupidly giddy. |
| 17:35.24 | Kirkburn|afk | They broke pet health? |
| 17:35.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Ouch |
| 17:36.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, only party pets |
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| 18:02.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | silleh now my pet defently wont get any healing |
| 18:07.27 | pastamancer | cogwheel|work: best news yet |
| 18:07.41 | pastamancer | damn pets and their need of heals |
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| 18:13.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO my pet is good offtank |
| 18:13.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | 11K armor ! |
| 18:13.32 | Kaso | I did a whole instance run with my pet tanking once |
| 18:13.40 | Kaso | i forget which instance it was |
| 18:13.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh pets pwn |
| 18:14.16 | Kaso | Well, BM pwns :> |
| 18:14.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | however +healing buff on items no longers seems to work on "mend pet" spell |
| 18:14.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | i got 11k armor 6k health and im marksman |
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| 18:16.38 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 18:16.41 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 18:16.47 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 18:16.48 | purl | ACTION jumps into JoshBorke's lap and huggles and *hugs* JoshBorke |
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| 18:25.01 | JoshBorke | Mr_Rabies: you hear about the druid hotfixes? |
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| 18:39.45 | Kaso | Does anyone know a freeware tool i can use to resize a NTFS partition |
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| 18:50.11 | nevcairiel | anyone else from EU, whos server is just shutting down? |
| 18:52.15 | wereHamster | I can't even login |
| 18:52.26 | wereHamster | I instantly get 'disconnected from server' |
| 18:52.40 | haste | restart your client, usually helps against that |
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| 18:53.30 | Neuro_Medivh | No, happening to me too |
| 18:53.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Unable to connect |
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| 18:56.27 | cogwheel|work | huh... the forums are being really sluggish... |
| 18:56.34 | cogwheel|work | i imagine this is a widespread issue... |
| 18:56.54 | Elkano | nevcairiel, mine does |
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| 18:57.31 | nevcairiel | oh joy |
| 18:57.36 | nevcairiel | wonder what they broke this time |
| 18:57.56 | Elkano | maybe one of the endbosses was beatable ;) |
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| 19:14.51 | TC_Working | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/inch-perfect-vibrator-knows-exactly-how-deep-your-love-goes-242011.php |
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| 19:33.53 | Paratus | I'm getting an error concerning a nil table on line 157 here: http://wowi.pastey.net/7899 .. any ideas as to why? |
| 19:34.01 | Kirkburn|afk | TC_Working, ..... |
| 19:35.41 | Paratus | er on line 156 rather |
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| 19:38.00 | rjaym | how do i iterate through a vararg? |
| 19:38.03 | TC_Working | yes? |
| 19:38.06 | rjaym | "..." |
| 19:38.20 | Paratus | nobody see the problem?? |
| 19:38.28 | Cide | for i = 1, select('#', ...) do local value = select(i, ...); doStuff(value); end |
| 19:38.46 | TC_Working | Kirkburn|afk: poke |
| 19:39.03 | rjaym | Cide: all that syntax just for an elipses? |
| 19:39.23 | Cide | that's how you iterate through it |
| 19:39.28 | rjaym | Cide: tnx |
| 19:39.30 | cogwheel|work | rjaym: you have a better way? :P |
| 19:39.53 | rjaym | i'm just learning lua now, and that seems to be a lot of syntax to me that's all |
| 19:40.00 | Cide | it is |
| 19:40.28 | Cide | but it's the only way to do it if you want ... to behave like a list |
| 19:41.04 | Paratus | My god this issue I have is driving me nuts! |
| 19:41.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Paratus, is it line 157 or 156? |
| 19:41.21 | Paratus | 156 |
| 19:41.22 | Kirkburn|afk | TC_Working, ping |
| 19:41.26 | Neuro_Medivh | cause 156 is just i2 = i2 + 1; |
| 19:41.30 | TC_Working | what did you want? |
| 19:41.34 | Kirkburn|afk | TC_Working, pong |
| 19:41.34 | Neuro_Medivh | and I don't see any issue with that line |
| 19:41.53 | Paratus | er yeah it is 157 :/ |
| 19:41.55 | Kirkburn|afk | TC_Working, just, y'know, interesting link earlier :P |
| 19:41.55 | TC_Working | you ....'d me |
| 19:42.00 | TC_Working | ok, heh |
| 19:42.09 | TC_Working | i just thought that some people might be interested |
| 19:43.06 | Paratus | Ohh |
| 19:43.20 | Paratus | could line 36 be causing the problem? |
| 19:43.44 | Kirkburn|afk | TC_Working, I sure am! |
| 19:43.54 | TC_Working | lol |
| 19:44.47 | Neuro_Medivh | what is the point of 35, 36, and 37? |
| 19:45.16 | Paratus | Sec, the current version is a bit different. I'll update the pastey. |
| 19:45.38 | Paratus | http://wowi.pastey.net/7902 |
| 19:45.59 | Shadowed | When you have a SavedVariables set in the TOC, when VARIABLES_LOADED is fired wont the saved variable be loaded and overwrite the one you defined, making it nil? |
| 19:47.18 | Paratus | I actually want the line 35 variable to be nil when the script runs, hence the = nil. |
| 19:47.19 | zenzelezz | omg... goal after 10 seconds |
| 19:47.38 | Paratus | I just also want it to save on logout, so it uses savedvariables |
| 19:47.47 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: who where? |
| 19:47.49 | Neuro_Medivh | Paratus, can I ask why you have realmname and charname? |
| 19:47.56 | Neuro_Medivh | seems like a lot of overhead |
| 19:48.04 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: Bayern München (vs. Real Madrid), proper football |
| 19:48.08 | Shadowed | Paratus: So you have a SavedVariables set in the TOC, right? |
| 19:48.11 | Cairenn | ah |
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| 19:48.17 | Paratus | Because I store all character details in 1 table |
| 19:48.26 | Paratus | yes shad |
| 19:48.35 | Paratus | That's not the problem, this script WAS working |
| 19:48.43 | Paratus | Not sure how I broke it :P |
| 19:48.46 | Shadowed | Well, what i'm saying is |
| 19:49.03 | Neuro_Medivh | Yes, but is there a reason? Are you accessing other character's data on this character? |
| 19:49.39 | Paratus | No Neuro, but this thing basically exports to a 3rd party app which can more easily read 1 table :) |
| 19:49.41 | Shadowed | You define GuideTool_QuestData at the top of the script, this is before SavedVariables are loaded. SavedVariabels are then loaded *and* because the table is nil in the savedvariables, by the time you use it the table you originally defined was nilled out |
| 19:49.43 | Shadowed | does that make sense? |
| 19:50.11 | Paratus | Yep makes sense |
| 19:50.16 | Paratus | But it's not nil in saved :) |
| 19:50.22 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 19:50.43 | Shadowed | Did you try doing a dump of the table in UpdateQuest yet? |
| 19:50.48 | Paratus | Should I be setting it to nil like on line 35, or is that bad? |
| 19:51.11 | Shadowed | Should be fine since you set it to a table right below at #36 |
| 19:51.29 | Paratus | yeah, that was my attempt to make sure it doesn't take data from savedvariables.. would that even be an effective way to do it? |
| 19:51.53 | Neuro_Medivh | No, because it'll still take data from savedvariables during loadup |
| 19:52.08 | Paratus | So should I do it in the variables_loaded event instead? |
| 19:52.11 | Shadowed | yep |
| 19:52.13 | Neuro_Medivh | Line 35-36 are being executed BEFORE variables are being loaded |
| 19:52.24 | Paratus | I see.. |
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| 19:52.51 | Paratus | Hmm |
| 19:53.05 | Paratus | I haven't done the dump yet, no |
| 19:53.06 | Neuro_Medivh | so if you are trying to clean the slate every time, then yes, you should clear it out on VariablesLoaded |
| 19:53.07 | Shadowed | Anything you do to the SavedVariables before VARIABLES_LOADED is fired is basically ignored |
| 19:53.35 | Paratus | Makes sense.. |
| 19:53.36 | rjaym | do people use LuaPad, or something else lately? |
| 19:53.55 | Neuro_Medivh | I use ultraedit |
| 19:54.17 | Paratus | I'm using B:Lua or something |
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| 19:55.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | im using WoW ui desinger |
| 19:55.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | (becase i cant write xml :P) |
| 19:57.29 | Paratus | Ahh |
| 19:57.37 | Paratus | I have a sort of clue here.. |
| 19:57.57 | Paratus | I've cleared my savedvariables, then reloaded my UI |
| 19:58.05 | Paratus | I then executed the script and it worked perfectly |
| 19:58.08 | Paratus | however.. |
| 19:58.26 | Paratus | when I went onto a different character, and executed it, the line "GuideTool_QuestData[RealmTitle][CharName]["Quests"] = nil;" fails |
| 19:58.47 | Shadowed | Are you doing reloadui to test? |
| 19:59.18 | Paratus | that time I actually restarted the game, but usually yes |
| 19:59.33 | Shadowed | Try going back onto the other character that it worked on and see if when logging in for the first time if it works |
| 19:59.38 | Paratus | Ok I went back on the FIRST character and it worked again |
| 19:59.53 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 20:00.04 | Neuro_Medivh | I still think you should use savedvariablespercharacter =) |
| 20:00.40 | Paratus | I know Neuro, but in my case it'd be more work doing that.. a good deal more.. based on how the program that reads the savedvar works |
| 20:01.19 | Paratus | I basically don't need wow to read these saved vars, I just need the data there when they log out so the app I wrote in .Net can read it |
| 20:01.53 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, wtf is it with teens today going on shooting sprees. It's becoming downright trendy. I blame emo music |
| 20:02.37 | Shadowed | Cool kids go on shooting sprees, are you a cool kid Neuro |
| 20:02.46 | Paratus | http://wowi.pastey.net/7903 <-- that's the latest pastey.. only real diff is I moved that stuff to VARIABLES_LOADED and now the error is on line 74 |
| 20:03.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Apparently not |
| 20:03.19 | Paratus | am I clearing the data in that part of the table wrong? |
| 20:03.25 | Paratus | (setting it to nil) |
| 20:03.28 | Neuro_Medivh | so try commenting out that line |
| 20:03.39 | Neuro_Medivh | you're setting the table to empty, so you really don't need it |
| 20:04.24 | Paratus | then error on 75 |
| 20:05.36 | Paratus | ohh |
| 20:05.50 | Paratus | I went onto the character that fails and did this: |
| 20:05.56 | Paratus | /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(RealmTitle,1,0,0); |
| 20:06.00 | Paratus | it didn't return the realm.. |
| 20:09.32 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, curse gaming is becoming more and more of a hassle to use every damn day |
| 20:09.46 | Shadowed | yeah... |
| 20:09.48 | Cairenn | now what? |
| 20:09.56 | Neuro_Medivh | It's spouting german at me |
| 20:09.59 | Shadowed | The JavaScript/Cookie crap is still acting up |
| 20:10.02 | Neuro_Medivh | and won't change to english |
| 20:10.17 | Paratus | hmm nm that was only because it was local |
| 20:10.20 | Neuro_Medivh | and sometimes it tells me I'm using IE 6.0 when I'm using FF 2.0.2 |
| 20:11.07 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 20:11.47 | Neuro_Medivh | Now it's in french! |
| 20:12.29 | Cairenn | I thought they were turning that javascript/cookie thing off? |
| 20:12.51 | Shadowed | well, it was bugging me earlier today in IE7 so I guess not |
| 20:15.20 | Paratus | Ahhhh for the love of god!! |
| 20:15.27 | rjaym | can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong here http://rafb.net/p/DLVPZP96.html |
| 20:15.30 | Shadowed | Not sure why it keeps complaining about cookies...because I've stayed logged in the entire time |
| 20:15.41 | Shadowed | Paratus: Did you try moving all of the code to VARIABLES_LOADED for it? |
| 20:17.12 | Paratus | I moved the = {}; line there |
| 20:17.18 | Paratus | It seems that... |
| 20:17.42 | Paratus | everywhere in the script that executes a "= {}" on part of a table that contains data causes an error |
| 20:17.54 | Paratus | is there a better way to do this..? |
| 20:18.56 | Shadowed | I mean, try moving all of the GuideTool_QuestData/GuideTool_Completed stuff to VARIABLES_LOADED |
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| 20:26.06 | wereHamster | rjaym, what doesn't work? |
| 20:27.12 | rjaym | err, i figured it out, i thought an underscore "_" was a special syntax to refer to the initial object in an index |
| 20:27.28 | rjaym | but it seems an underscore is just a global dummy var |
| 20:27.59 | rjaym | i was just trying to iterate through that little table |
| 20:28.11 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 20:28.16 | Shirik | the wow servers restarted themselves? |
| 20:28.29 | wereHamster | rjaym, underscore is just like any other variable name |
| 20:28.45 | wereHamster | but it's commonly used for unused/unneeded variables |
| 20:28.47 | Shirik | rjaym: underscore is just a globally accepted "I don't care" variable that people use when they want to ignore something |
| 20:28.54 | Shirik | it's just a convention, but it _is_ a variable |
| 20:29.27 | wereHamster | btw, "for _, w in bleh do" should be "for _, w in ipairs(bleh) do" |
| 20:29.39 | rjaym | i see |
| 20:30.01 | Shirik | it should have been that for a long time >.> |
| 20:30.17 | Shirik | "for _, w in foo do" was never an accepted syntax in WoW |
| 20:30.23 | Shirik | iirc, WoW started at lua 5.0? |
| 20:30.48 | cogwheel|work | yep |
| 20:31.24 | cogwheel|work | Actually, they changed it from 4.1 during beta iirc |
| 20:31.35 | Shirik | ok but since release, at least, that's been a deprecated syntax |
| 20:31.40 | cogwheel|work | yep |
| 20:32.09 | rjaym | then is using ipairs the correct way to iterate through a table that has an unknown number of values? |
| 20:32.18 | Shirik | pairs or ipars |
| 20:32.23 | Shirik | s/ipars/ipairs/ |
| 20:32.30 | rjaym | k |
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| 20:32.42 | cogwheel|work | ipairs only if it's integer keyed |
| 20:32.46 | cogwheel|work | pairs otherwise |
| 20:32.53 | rjaym | k |
| 20:33.20 | Shirik | ipairs only if you care about the order, isn't that correct? |
| 20:33.23 | cogwheel|work | actually, you can use ipairs on a mixed table and it will iterate through the integer keys, but that's neither here nor there |
| 20:34.10 | cogwheel|work | Shirik: yes, but only conceptually. ipairs literally starts at 1 and counts up until it reaches null (WARNING: OVERSIMPLIFICATION... pedants, remain calm) |
| 20:34.21 | Shirik | haha |
| 20:34.24 | cogwheel|work | s/null/nil/ |
| 20:34.28 | cogwheel|work | damn vba |
| 20:34.31 | Shirik | hehe |
| 20:34.36 | rjaym | so everyone uses tinsert to insert values into a table, there's no special syntax, just that function? |
| 20:34.47 | Shirik | yeah, just I tend to use pairs() for integer-keyed tables, though I don't care about the order in those situations |
| 20:34.50 | Paratus | http://wowi.pastey.net/7906 <-- nil table error on 75?! UGH!! Help ! |
| 20:35.07 | cogwheel|work | you don't need to use tinsert, but it's the most convenient (and efficient if you're sticking an element somewhere in the middle of the table) |
| 20:35.25 | rjaym | any reason you say i won't need to? |
| 20:35.40 | Shirik | Paratus: You never initialized GuideTool_QuestData[RealmTitle] |
| 20:35.41 | Shirik | er |
| 20:35.43 | Shirik | GuideTool_QuestData[RealmTitle][CharData] |
| 20:35.47 | cogwheel|work | you can set a value on any key of a table whether it exists or not |
| 20:35.51 | Shadowed | Shirik yes he does |
| 20:35.51 | cogwheel|work | a = {} |
| 20:35.53 | Shirik | GuideTool_QuestData[RealmTitle][CharName] ** |
| 20:35.57 | cogwheel|work | a[5] = "Hello" |
| 20:36.07 | rjaym | i see |
| 20:36.10 | Shirik | I take that back |
| 20:36.11 | Shirik | missed it |
| 20:36.16 | Shadowed | Paratus: Move Lines #19 - #34 to #74 and see if it works |
| 20:36.31 | rjaym | that's the syntax i was thinking of |
| 20:36.35 | Shadowed | don't have to keep it there, just make sure thats not causing it |
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| 20:36.57 | Shirik | precisely what I agree with |
| 20:36.57 | cogwheel|work | rjaym: but tinsert does the work for you if you have something like: a = { "hello", "goodbye" } tinsert(a, 2, "how are you?") |
| 20:37.10 | cogwheel|work | (i may have the argument order wrong on that tinsert call) |
| 20:37.21 | rjaym | that wouldn't overwrite "goodbye"? |
| 20:37.38 | cogwheel|work | nope. it shifts it down the list |
| 20:37.46 | rjaym | k |
| 20:37.53 | Shirik | it inserts it at element 2, right in the middle |
| 20:38.01 | cogwheel|work | which is much more efficient than doing something like that "manually" |
| 20:38.10 | cogwheel|work | since it does the shifting in C code. |
| 20:38.14 | Paratus | ok trying that |
| 20:38.39 | Shirik | haven't looked at the C code for Lua much but I imagine a table's just a linked list, so something like that would be trivial |
| 20:38.40 | Paratus | wtf... working? |
| 20:38.44 | Shirik | just switching around a few pointers |
| 20:38.45 | rjaym | trying to relate my c++/php/vb knowledge, hmm what other questions |
| 20:38.57 | pastamancer | nah, a table is a hashmap most of the time |
| 20:39.14 | cogwheel|work | rjaym: don't try too hard... there are a lot of unique idioms in lua that have no direct translation |
| 20:39.36 | cogwheel|work | you'll actually limit your effectiveness if you try to put lua code in terms of other languages |
| 20:39.53 | Shadowed | Paratus: If you're doing something to manage a SavedVariables, you'll probably have less hassle if you always make sure to do it at VARIABLES_LOADED, or after it's been fired |
| 20:39.56 | Shadowed | manage/change |
| 20:39.58 | Shirik | true, there are quite a few things you can do in Lua that you can't in other languages ^^ |
| 20:40.20 | rjaym | er, i wish there was a page highlighting those differences |
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| 20:40.32 | Paratus | The script doesn't FUNCTION properly this way tho |
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| 20:40.39 | Paratus | since I don't wanna clear the entire table, just part of it |
| 20:41.04 | rjaym | actually i think i know what you guys are talking about, the metatables right? |
| 20:41.27 | rjaym | (Shirik/cogwheel) |
| 20:41.33 | Shadowed | Paratus: Add a check then |
| 20:41.39 | pastamancer | lua is relatively similar to scheme except with slightly idiosynchratic hashtables instead of linked lists |
| 20:41.57 | JoshBorke | ew, don't bring up scheme! |
| 20:42.16 | Shirik | rjaym: that's one of many lua tools that can let you do some fun stuff |
| 20:42.17 | Shadowed | (Going off of your last pastey), Add something like "if( not GuideTool_CharData ) then" above #19 and then "end" below #32 without the quotes. |
| 20:42.24 | pastamancer | first class functions! |
| 20:42.34 | Shadowed | That way it only clears the character information, and defines the entire table if it doesn't exist. |
| 20:42.40 | Shadowed | ah actually sorry |
| 20:43.20 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 20:43.22 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn tightly until Cairenn turns slightly blue |
| 20:43.34 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:43.48 | Shadowed | Paratus: http://wowi.pastey.net/7907 something like that so it wont clear everything for everyone |
| 20:43.54 | pastamancer | not a fan of currying or anonymous functions? |
| 20:44.43 | rjaym | so that "for _, w in ipairs(something) do block end" what does the _ mean? |
| 20:45.00 | amro | _ is a dummy variable |
| 20:45.08 | pastamancer | I really want to see call/cc added to lua so I can play with CPS in the wow environment |
| 20:45.10 | rjaym | it's 100% arbitrary? |
| 20:45.16 | amro | you don't need that value, but you need the one after it |
| 20:45.23 | amro | you can call it anything, _ is sort of a convention |
| 20:45.36 | Paratus | ok ummm |
| 20:45.37 | rjaym | the one after it returning the index of something in that case..? |
| 20:45.43 | rjaym | ok |
| 20:46.09 | Paratus | I moved the main declarations from the loaded function back to the global part.. and it works.. |
| 20:46.16 | Paratus | no errors, everything's golden |
| 20:46.30 | Paratus | no idea what the problem was, but oh well :P |
| 20:46.35 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: scheme was the first language they taught us at my school and I just hated the () |
| 20:46.58 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: lern2emacs |
| 20:47.19 | amro | i hate emacs |
| 20:47.24 | Shirik | your school actually taught you scheme? |
| 20:47.26 | pastamancer | it means never having to worry about parens |
| 20:47.45 | Shirik | maybe I'm not old enough :P |
| 20:47.50 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: we had to write it in dr. scheme |
| 20:47.52 | amro | the way emacs highlights the accompanying bracket/etc is annoying |
| 20:47.58 | Shirik | I like that! |
| 20:48.06 | Shirik | otherwise I get lost |
| 20:48.12 | amro | that's not what I meant |
| 20:48.16 | bleetah | learn to hexedit! (and for those who missed it the other day ... http://packetstorm.setnine.com/unix-humor/unixoid_hell.gif ) |
| 20:48.20 | amro | other editors do it, but the way emacs does it is ugly |
| 20:48.24 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: oh, that's shame |
| 20:48.34 | Shirik | that never gets old bleetah |
| 20:48.44 | Shirik | ah I see amro |
| 20:48.58 | pastamancer | I've found that schools with a more theoretical comp-sci program tend to be the ones that teach scheme |
| 20:49.22 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: thus my loathing of scheme |
| 20:49.48 | pastamancer | did they teach you prolog too? |
| 20:50.12 | rjaym | (is there a place i can get emacs in a win32 bin?) |
| 20:50.20 | Kirkburn|afk | This is awesome - Shatner singing to Lucas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p55YD8QhQ3o :) |
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| 20:50.35 | Shirik | I used to have an editor that started highlighting the line red if it looked too complex |
| 20:50.43 | Shirik | like it would highlight this: String s = e.getName().substring(0,e.getName().length()-(e.getName().matches("^.+/$")?1:0)) |
| 20:50.52 | Shirik | forget what it was |
| 20:51.07 | pastamancer | rjaym: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-21.3-fullbin-i386.tar.gz |
| 20:51.14 | rjaym | ty |
| 20:52.13 | leethal | Mr_Rabies: you around? |
| 20:53.31 | rjaym | lol, mind if i ask why it's 66mb? |
| 20:53.48 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: no. it went scheme -> java -> C (for me) |
| 20:54.05 | pastamancer | rjaym: that would be the kitchen sink |
| 20:54.18 | TC_Working | heh |
| 20:54.30 | rjaym | that joke went right over my head |
| 20:54.33 | pastamancer | ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/emacs-21.3-bin-i386.tar.gz is only 13MB |
| 20:54.35 | rjaym | np |
| 20:54.51 | pastamancer | I forget what it's missing though. Probably the elisp source |
| 20:54.57 | JoshBorke | vim ftw |
| 20:54.58 | leethal | I wish I could choose window manager on windows =/ |
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| 20:55.22 | leethal | I tried using emacs on win, but it was just to ugly |
| 20:55.33 | pastamancer | emacs is never pretty |
| 20:55.43 | leethal | emacs is an os hehe |
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| 21:00.16 | JoshBorke | man it is hot here |
| 21:00.59 | Xenok | ... no comment |
| 21:01.23 | Xenok | its freezing here in illinois |
| 21:01.29 | JoshBorke | 70 F |
| 21:01.51 | Xenok | 70!? you call that HOT?! when i was in arizona that was cold!! 110 was hot!! |
| 21:02.07 | Kirov | 70 is below freezing in southern florida |
| 21:02.09 | JoshBorke | well, when sunday was in teh 40s |
| 21:02.33 | Kirov | (at least outdoors, indoors anything above 50 is too warm) |
| 21:02.40 | Xenok | wierd |
| 21:04.24 | Kirov | In florida, for about 2 months a year, it's below 80's. He made the comment to me on a day that was around 70 with a mild breeze, "See, this is why I live in Florida." I responded to him, "You've never been to california, have you. It's like this 11 months a year." |
| 21:04.31 | leethal | 70 is pretty decent on the moon |
| 21:04.58 | Kirov | (he being my neightbor when I lived in Florida) |
| 21:05.06 | leethal | never been on the moon, though. any of you been there? |
| 21:05.10 | JoshBorke | california also shakes |
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| 21:05.20 | Xenok | Leethal: I wish T_T |
| 21:05.36 | Kirov | Josh - If you live in San Francisco or Los Angeles, sure |
| 21:05.39 | Shadowed | Not cold enough here |
| 21:05.48 | Kirov | But what's worse |
| 21:06.29 | Kirov | Once every 50 earth quake that does some damage, with minor shakes once a year tops in between, or YEARLY HURRICANES THAT DESTROY EVERYTHING! |
| 21:06.52 | Antiarc|Work | See, this is why Arizona is nice. You get most of the good weather with none of the natural disasters. |
| 21:06.54 | JoshBorke | i like to think that mice are worse personally |
| 21:07.01 | Antiarc|Work | July/August isn't so great, but hey, whatever |
| 21:07.08 | Kirov | Not to mention giant cockroaches |
| 21:07.10 | Xenok | <3 AZ |
| 21:07.18 | JoshBorke | meh, i'm gonna live in the mountains |
| 21:07.27 | JoshBorke | nice cold winters, cool summers. i'll be set |
| 21:07.41 | Kirov | Josh - planing ahead for when the earth floods? |
| 21:07.58 | Cairenn | JoshBorke, the hillbilly, gonna marry his sistercousinneice Sally |
| 21:08.04 | JoshBorke | Kirov: just getting away from as many idiots as i can |
| 21:08.07 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 21:08.10 | Xenok | the only thing I didn't like about AZ was the snowbirds... I loved it there.. but then the rest of my family decided to move to illinois >< |
| 21:08.23 | Xenok | so I was forced to come |
| 21:08.23 | JoshBorke | <3 Cairenn |
| 21:08.54 | Kirov | Never been to AZ for any kind of extended time |
| 21:09.03 | Xenok | you snowbird! |
| 21:09.23 | Xenok | >< |
| 21:09.53 | amro | temperature in DC changes like on the moon |
| 21:10.02 | Kirov | I used to travel a lot with my family when I was a kid, but apart from a trip to england when I was 6 the furthest out of the US I've been is Texas. |
| 21:10.18 | Xenok | quite a change going from AZ after living there for 93% of your life to Illinois ..... /cry |
| 21:10.31 | Xenok | its torture |
| 21:10.39 | kergoth | i moved from MN to AZ about a year ago |
| 21:10.49 | kergoth | talk about weather extremes |
| 21:10.53 | Xenok | oo yeah lol |
| 21:10.55 | Xenok | major |
| 21:11.11 | kergoth | cant say i miss shoveling snow ;) |
| 21:11.22 | Xenok | HAH good point |
| 21:11.30 | Xenok | I have to do that now.. I hate it |
| 21:11.37 | Kirov | MN, gotta' love "CAUTION - ICY ROADS" signs in the middle of summer |
| 21:12.21 | Xenok | my favorate sign are the "Slow! children are at play." signs.. makes me think that slow children are at play >< |
| 21:12.48 | Shirik | I don't have any of those signs :/ |
| 21:12.52 | Xenok | hehe |
| 21:13.05 | Xenok | I saw a "caution Blind child at play" once O.O |
| 21:13.11 | Kirov | How about the signs in Montana "Nothing for the next 150 miles" |
| 21:13.13 | Xenok | no joke |
| 21:13.21 | Shirik | Do those really exist Kirov? |
| 21:13.31 | Kirov | Shirik - yah |
| 21:13.37 | Shirik | I thought that was always just a joke |
| 21:13.43 | Xenok | O.O |
| 21:13.54 | Shirik | though it makes sense |
| 21:14.01 | Shirik | if you're low on gas or something, it warns you |
| 21:14.02 | Cairenn | ie no gas, no restroom, no food or drink - so top everything up now |
| 21:14.15 | Kirov | They have them just after pit stops |
| 21:14.17 | gnorlish | there were signs like that in utah |
| 21:14.22 | amro | top your bladder? |
| 21:14.24 | gnorlish | when i moved xcountry to LA |
| 21:14.29 | Shirik | untop* |
| 21:14.32 | Xenok | LOL just about to say that amro >< |
| 21:14.32 | gnorlish | "no cell phone service for 150 miles" |
| 21:15.07 | JoshBorke | meh, you can just go squat |
| 21:15.14 | Kirov | Saskatchewan is better though |
| 21:15.22 | Xenok | Canada? |
| 21:15.26 | Kirov | aye |
| 21:15.29 | Xenok | Yaw |
| 21:15.29 | Kirov | talk about nothing |
| 21:15.40 | Cairenn | heh, floating oil tanks |
| 21:15.51 | Cairenn | (not really) |
| 21:16.03 | amro | try siberia |
| 21:16.20 | Xenok | I have one that beats them all... |
| 21:16.24 | Xenok | Antarctica |
| 21:16.35 | Kirov | Saskatchewan is a bizzare fucking place. Going through there on a train and the highest point you can see is the roof of a house 200 miles away. |
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| 21:16.57 | Cairenn | Kirov: that's sorta what I was talking about with the oil tanks |
| 21:17.21 | Shirik | Cairenn: Let Dolby know that once you've switched to "lite mode" there's no way to get back to normal mode, would you mind? |
| 21:17.43 | Cairenn | yes there is |
| 21:17.48 | Shirik | um |
| 21:17.52 | Cairenn | when *we* force lite, though, no there isn't |
| 21:17.53 | Shirik | the little box disappeared for me >.> |
| 21:17.59 | Shirik | oh did you force it? |
| 21:18.08 | Shirik | I thought I accidentally switched >< |
| 21:18.08 | Kirov | The only place I've ever been that was more surreal than Saskatchewan was Manitoba |
| 21:18.09 | Cairenn | no, it's back to normal now, we had earlier though |
| 21:18.20 | Cairenn | so do a refresh, it should be back now |
| 21:18.25 | Shirik | ok now it makes a little more sense thanks ^^ |
| 21:18.33 | Cairenn | np |
| 21:24.46 | Xenok | ok norgs sent me on a different approch on setting fontstrings O.o http://wowi.pastey.net/7909 need to get dumpCoords(zone) to change the text of a fonstring depending on the zone I select in a dropdown ... |
| 21:24.58 | Xenok | if possible |
| 21:26.38 | Cairenn | My Dad was up in northern Saskatchewan running a YMCA camp when Mom went into labour with my sister back in Saskatoon. So here's Dad, he's been up all day and he gets the call that Mom's in labour, so he starts driving. Drives all through the night. Heading toward dawn, he looks out and sees two of the giant round oil tanks (you know, the type you see at the refineries) and they appear to be just floating along above the sea of grain. |
| 21:26.47 | Xenok | or should I just make a table with each zone? |
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| 21:27.20 | Xenok | I was wondering what you ment Cairenn lol |
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| 21:29.10 | Cairenn | but it gives you an idea just how flat and boring it is - he watched them for like 3 hrs slowly growing bigger and bigger before he ever saw the truck |
| 21:29.22 | Xenok | Wow |
| 21:30.42 | Kirov | I watched the sun set and rise in Saskatchewan in the span of about 15 minutes. |
| 21:31.09 | leethal | midnight sun is weird, I tell ya |
| 21:31.11 | Cairenn | you must have been pretty far north at the time, and obviously middle of the winter |
| 21:31.17 | leethal | 24 hours of day |
| 21:31.38 | Neuro_Medivh | A lot of Texas is that flat |
| 21:32.10 | Neuro_Medivh | In Houston, the highest point above sea level is a man made hill used for an outdoor theatre. |
| 21:32.20 | Kirov | "Towns" in Texas are weird places. A gas station, a subway sandwich place (in the gas station) and 4 houses. |
| 21:32.32 | Neuro_Medivh | The second highest point is a man made earth embankment used to support an overpass =) |
| 21:32.42 | Neuro_Medivh | True dat, Kirov |
| 21:33.50 | Neuro_Medivh | There's a county in texas with a population of like 12 people. |
| 21:34.02 | Xenok | O.o |
| 21:34.42 | Kirov | 90% of the world's trucks are made and sold in Texas. |
| 21:34.56 | Shirik | too bad truck designers are morons |
| 21:35.11 | Shirik | I don't understand this world, we spend all the time in the world working on making cars streamlined and everything |
| 21:35.24 | Shirik | while possibly the most used vehicle, the truck, is still horribly efficient |
| 21:36.04 | Shirik | we complain about gas shortages and all that, and we have trucks eating up the majority of it |
| 21:36.04 | Kirov | Shirik - think about the people who use trucks vs. cars |
| 21:36.25 | Neuro_Medivh | Most trucks are used in a commercial, not personal, capacity |
| 21:36.33 | Kirov | truck users care about two things, how much stuff they can carry, and how big the truck is. |
| 21:36.50 | Shirik | the company should also be carrying about how much money they waste carrying that stuff |
| 21:37.04 | Shirik | it doesn't require any modifications to the engine, to its power, anything... just streamline the shape |
| 21:37.17 | Neuro_Medivh | streamline how? |
| 21:37.18 | Kirov | They tried. |
| 21:37.25 | Kirov | "Truckers" refused to drive it. |
| 21:37.38 | Shirik | well that's when the CEO goes "ok drive it or you're fired" |
| 21:38.16 | Kirov | Shirik - Most shipping places uses contract truckers. The truck drivers own the cab. |
| 21:38.22 | Neuro_Medivh | You're under the impression that there's a huge line of unemployed truckers looking for work |
| 21:38.23 | Kirov | They get to buy whatever they want |
| 21:39.27 | Neuro_Medivh | Truckers get a bad rap, btw. Most are really good people. |
| 21:40.45 | Kirov | Truckers are modern day hermits |
| 21:40.45 | Xenok | hehe Ill give em that |
| 21:40.45 | Neuro_Medivh | It does appeal to a certain mindset, true. |
| 21:40.45 | Kirov | They get paid to be by themselves. |
| 21:40.47 | Neuro_Medivh | Have you seen the trucks these days though? |
| 21:40.50 | Kirov | As such, the "bad" ones tend to get more noticed. |
| 21:40.53 | Neuro_Medivh | They're like mini-apartments |
| 21:40.54 | Xenok | but .. they don't have a family :P |
| 21:41.09 | Neuro_Medivh | Xenok, most do actually |
| 21:41.18 | Xenok | really? even the cross country ones? |
| 21:41.22 | Neuro_Medivh | Yep |
| 21:41.27 | Xenok | cool poor kids though |
| 21:41.43 | Kirov | Modern day cross country trucks are pretty cool inside. |
| 21:41.44 | Neuro_Medivh | Cross country ones usually work shifts... 4 days on, 3 off |
| 21:41.54 | Xenok | ohhh |
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| 21:42.02 | Neuro_Medivh | or something along those lines |
| 21:42.10 | Neuro_Medivh | depending on the route, etc |
| 21:42.21 | Xenok | interesting |
| 21:42.31 | Kirov | bunk beds, mini kitchen sometimes. |
| 21:42.32 | Neuro_Medivh | but yeah, those modern trucks are amazing... many have satellite/wireless internet |
| 21:42.41 | Xenok | wow |
| 21:42.56 | Neuro_Medivh | That's who satellite radio really is made for =) |
| 21:43.01 | Kirov | Neuro_Medivh - I saw wireless internet in a truck before I had internet in my home. |
| 21:43.17 | Kirov | Truckers had their own network setup for non-radio communication. |
| 21:43.44 | Neuro_Medivh | I haven't inquired in years, but I think truckers switched from 'CB' radios to something else a while ago |
| 21:43.57 | Kirov | Random trucker quiz - When you drive past a truck and they flash their highs at you, what does it mean?" |
| 21:44.05 | Neuro_Medivh | that you're clear to move over |
| 21:44.26 | Xenok | hey.. in lua.. how do I make it so that it goes to a function already made? just type functionname(); ? or do i type something else? |
| 21:44.30 | Kirov | And the second part of that question - Why do they signal that you're clear? |
| 21:44.49 | wereHamster | I hope I don't look like http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/shag-sig.png when I'm 70 |
| 21:44.50 | Shirik | Xenok - what do you mean |
| 21:44.51 | Neuro_Medivh | because on huge trucks, it can be difficult to gauge whether you are clear or not |
| 21:44.52 | Xenok | so you know they see you |
| 21:45.06 | Neuro_Medivh | it's mainly for other truckers, to be honest |
| 21:45.20 | Xenok | Shirik: well in lua. how do I call a function that I made? |
| 21:45.24 | Shirik | foo() |
| 21:45.27 | Kirov | But most truckers do it for passenger cars as well out of habit. |
| 21:45.34 | Xenok | foo = what? |
| 21:45.42 | Neuro_Medivh | Most good truckers stick to the right hand lane, and use the left for passing |
| 21:46.00 | Kirov | Neuro - most drivers in the rest of the world do too. |
| 21:46.02 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo |
| 21:46.12 | Kirov | The fact that it's a "trucker" thing in the US is a bad thing |
| 21:46.18 | Shirik | learn it, use it |
| 21:46.22 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:46.24 | Shirik | foo, bar, baz, and many many others |
| 21:46.29 | Shirik | you will see them used a lot |
| 21:46.35 | Xenok | Ill look at it |
| 21:46.36 | Xenok | ty |
| 21:46.40 | Kirov | not to be confused with fubar |
| 21:46.45 | Shirik | not fubar >< |
| 21:47.04 | Xenok | not the fubar wow addon |
| 21:47.06 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:47.37 | Shirik | though, it is belived that the term "fubar" (f'ed up beyond all recognition) is derived from "foo bar" |
| 21:47.40 | Shirik | or perhaps the other way around |
| 21:47.47 | Shirik | also, not the same fubar as the wow addon |
| 21:47.50 | Kirov | Shirik - other way around |
| 21:47.58 | Shirik | I forget :P |
| 21:48.00 | Kirov | fubar is a military term |
| 21:48.01 | Shirik | I just know they're related |
| 21:48.19 | Kirov | "foo bar" comes from programers |
| 21:48.23 | JoshBorke | fudged up beyond all recognition |
| 21:48.31 | Kirov | or "all repair" |
| 21:48.41 | wereHamster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNAFU has a nice list of acronyms O.o |
| 21:48.43 | Xenok | darnit!! I didn't relize code = algebra!!! |
| 21:48.53 | JoshBorke | that's like the one thing i remember from saving private ryan |
| 21:49.01 | Xenok | josh: best movie ever! |
| 21:49.01 | Shirik | right, lab time, have fun |
| 21:49.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Band of Brothers > Saving Private Ryan |
| 21:49.29 | Xenok | Band of Brothers is just as good |
| 21:49.38 | Xenok | I love War movies |
| 21:49.43 | Kirov | foo bar lost most of it's meaning, and the fubar plugin is derived from "foobar" because there's already a plugin called "foo bar" |
| 21:49.46 | Neuro_Medivh | No, it's better =) |
| 21:50.07 | Xenok | Ive seen some of the Band of Brothers.. your prolly right hehe |
| 21:50.20 | Xenok | isn't it like a series or something? |
| 21:50.32 | eternally777 | Yeah |
| 21:50.34 | eternally777 | It's long. |
| 21:50.43 | Xenok | yeah.. ive seen like 3 of them |
| 21:51.02 | eternally777 | But every minute is excellent |
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| 21:51.28 | Xenok | It was kinda sad when that guy was crawling towards that manhole to get cover from the bombs.. but the guys in the manhole he was headed to got vaporized by a bomb.. |
| 21:52.17 | eternally777 | Yeah |
| 21:52.17 | Kirov | omg, it's Cide, everyone stop bitching about CTRA |
| 21:52.17 | Xenok | I can't believe I remember tha |
| 21:52.17 | Kirov | (ignore the fact he was here the whole time before that) |
| 21:52.18 | Xenok | LOL |
| 21:52.24 | Xenok | Clones .. clones |
| 21:53.11 | Shadowed | Shimmering flats is a bit bright |
| 21:54.10 | cogwheel|work | umm.... I think i need to sleep.... I just read "Remembering Frank Chodorov" as "Remembering Frank The Cow" |
| 21:54.28 | Xenok | hehe |
| 21:54.42 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 21:54.55 | Xenok | hey.. it says FOO calls function BAR but ... how do I use Foo() ? >< |
| 21:55.06 | eternally777 | Just like that. |
| 21:55.08 | eternally777 | Foo() |
| 21:55.14 | Xenok | so I have to name a function BAR? |
| 21:55.39 | eternally777 | heh, no |
| 21:55.43 | eternally777 | I think you're confused. |
| 21:55.46 | Xenok | then how does it know what to call?! |
| 21:55.49 | Xenok | I am T_T |
| 21:56.19 | eternally777 | Example: 'local foo = function() --[[ Do something really neat-o here. ]] end; foo()' |
| 21:56.56 | Xenok | soo "local foo = myfunction()" ? |
| 21:56.56 | eternally777 | Get it? |
| 21:57.12 | JoshBorke | where'd you get myfunction from? |
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| 21:57.25 | Xenok | hrm |
| 21:57.29 | eternally777 | Well at least that statement _could_ be correct ^^ |
| 21:58.16 | JoshBorke | personally, i like the syntax: local function foo() <do stuff> end |
| 21:58.16 | eternally777 | Well, yeah |
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| 21:58.20 | eternally777 | I put it like that in response to an example he wrote earlier though, I think. |
| 21:58.24 | Xenok | I just want it to call a previously stated function . can it be simple?! |
| 21:58.33 | eternally777 | it's extremely simple |
| 21:58.35 | JoshBorke | Xenok: <name of function>() |
| 21:59.09 | Karrion | Xenok: If you have a function called "foo", then you call it with foo(); if you have a function called "somethingelse", then you call it with somethingelse(); and so on |
| 21:59.10 | Xenok | then why the heck am I so lost? hey.. im 15. im not that smart :P but i got alot of this stuff down |
| 21:59.27 | Xenok | ohh |
| 21:59.46 | Xenok | soo its like 2+x = 5 x = 3? |
| 21:59.58 | Xenok | foo = x |
| 22:00.21 | Karrion | if you mean what I think you mean, yeah |
| 22:00.32 | Xenok | like letter varriables in math |
| 22:00.41 | Xenok | foo acts liket hat |
| 22:00.44 | Karrion | "foo" is used by programmer to stand in for the name of something |
| 22:00.52 | Xenok | like x in math.. I see |
| 22:00.57 | Karrion | yup |
| 22:01.02 | Xenok | interesting |
| 22:01.08 | Xenok | ty |
| 22:01.43 | Karrion | and if we've already used up foo, we go to "bar", "baz", or "quux", and so on ;-) |
| 22:01.58 | Xenok | like X .. N T Z |
| 22:02.00 | Xenok | Q |
| 22:02.12 | Karrion | exactly |
| 22:02.15 | Xenok | ahhh |
| 22:02.35 | cogwheel|work | Xenok: http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/ |
| 22:02.43 | leethal | Ruby =D |
| 22:02.50 | cogwheel|work | good general programming intro |
| 22:02.57 | leethal | and ruby intro, wohoo |
| 22:03.02 | Xenok | not ruby nooo |
| 22:03.09 | leethal | kek why not? |
| 22:03.31 | cogwheel|work | doesn't matter what language... it's a good guide to programming in general... not something that really exists with lua |
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| 22:03.38 | Xenok | kek = lol lol didn't think anyone would say that LOL |
| 22:03.49 | Xenok | orcish ftw |
| 22:03.51 | leethal | yep, it's a goodie guide for programming in general |
| 22:04.06 | leethal | it's so basic that it applies to most languages really |
| 22:04.11 | Xenok | hmm |
| 22:04.26 | leethal | and ruby ofc, The Best Language Around |
| 22:04.42 | cogwheel|work | ~lart leethal |
| 22:04.53 | Corrodias | i wish i could rearrange the characters on my character selection screen |
| 22:04.57 | leethal | Ruby - a language for programmers, not comupters |
| 22:04.59 | Cide- | s/ruby/python/ |
| 22:05.20 | Cide- | although I'm a big fan of lua as well :) |
| 22:05.25 | Xenok | I like lua |
| 22:05.31 | leethal | if you do not think ruby is a nice language, you are not nice |
| 22:05.39 | leethal | I am not saying ruby is the only language, but it's damn good |
| 22:05.49 | cogwheel|work | or you've never seen it ;) |
| 22:06.07 | leethal | or that, yes |
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| 22:08.28 | amro | I don't understand why ruby supposedly follows the "principle of least surprise" |
| 22:08.49 | amro | more like the principle of most surprise, to me at least |
| 22:09.06 | leethal | amro: oh? |
| 22:09.35 | Xenok | comments on line 3 and 34 http://wowi.pastey.net/7916 please help |
| 22:09.50 | amro | for example, when I see a = somefunction, I think reference assignment, not that the function is getting called |
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| 22:10.52 | Corrodias | with no () on the end? assignment, yes |
| 22:11.21 | amro | not in ruby |
| 22:11.49 | leethal | amro: in ruby, foo = somefunction is a reference assigment |
| 22:12.14 | amro | since when? back when I used ruby that was not the case |
| 22:12.14 | leethal | amro: kind of =P |
| 22:12.28 | amro | I meant a reference to the function itself |
| 22:12.37 | Xenok | like lua variables? |
| 22:12.38 | leethal | amro: somefunction returns something. foo = somefunction means that foo is assigned the stuff somefunction returns |
| 22:12.47 | amro | yes |
| 22:12.59 | leethal | why would you want to "rename" a method like that? heh |
| 22:13.11 | leethal | function/method |
| 22:13.16 | amro | plenty of possibilities :) |
| 22:13.27 | amro | good for abstraction |
| 22:13.38 | leethal | you can go def method_name; other_method_name end |
| 22:13.40 | amro | I'll give Ruby another shot after 2.0 |
| 22:13.53 | amro | leethal, the assignment is useful at runtime |
| 22:14.01 | leethal | you can define methods in runtime |
| 22:14.02 | amro | for example. you pass your handler function to a library |
| 22:14.53 | leethal | ya, and the syntax for making a method is using the def keyword. Very little confusing imo |
| 22:15.04 | leethal | less confusing than going something = methodname. imo |
| 22:15.26 | amro | can you use def to fill an array with functions? |
| 22:15.46 | amro | and im talking about functions not methods |
| 22:15.49 | leethal | fill an array with functions O_o |
| 22:15.55 | leethal | functions is called methods in Ruby |
| 22:16.01 | amro | all of them? |
| 22:16.03 | leethal | yes |
| 22:16.08 | amro | methods are bound to an object |
| 22:16.14 | leethal | also, you can go Class.methods and get an array of all its methods |
| 22:16.33 | leethal | any_object.methods, in fact |
| 22:16.47 | leethal | well, everything is an object in ruby |
| 22:16.57 | amro | yeah |
| 22:17.07 | amro | going through all objects in existence is neat |
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| 22:17.17 | Xenok | vrooom pew pew pew (-0-) |
| 22:17.24 | Xenok | sorry bored |
| 22:17.36 | leethal | there are two kinds of methods, though |
| 22:17.40 | leethal | but they are still called methods |
| 22:17.52 | amro | go on |
| 22:18.00 | leethal | every object in ruby has a class |
| 22:18.13 | leethal | 1.class is Integer. "some string".class is String. And so on |
| 22:18.48 | leethal | so, you have methods for the class itself. String.new, for instance, and YourClass.something. |
| 22:19.10 | leethal | and you have methods for instances of that method. "some string".class is an instance method, as the "some string" object is an instance of the String class |
| 22:19.30 | leethal | and instance methods like "sort" and "each" for Array |
| 22:20.18 | amro | I was talking about functions defined without a class |
| 22:20.29 | amro | like def myfunc() dosomething end |
| 22:20.45 | leethal | that does not exist |
| 22:20.52 | amro | it doe |
| 22:20.53 | amro | it does |
| 22:20.54 | leethal | everything is an object, and all objects has classes |
| 22:21.01 | amro | well |
| 22:21.02 | sysrage | have |
| 22:21.04 | sysrage | ./duck |
| 22:21.09 | amro | I just ran a script that did what I mentioned |
| 22:21.27 | leethal | oh? |
| 22:21.31 | amro | yep, try it |
| 22:21.38 | leethal | what script? |
| 22:22.00 | cogwheel|work | Xenok: my tie fighter pwns your tie bomber... shoooom! pew pew! |-o-| |
| 22:22.09 | Xenok | aww |
| 22:22.18 | amro | http://wowi.pastey.net/7917 |
| 22:22.32 | Xenok | Darthvader pwns you all {-0-} |
| 22:22.37 | leethal | yes, that is a method for the Object class |
| 22:22.43 | leethal | going test is the same as going self.test |
| 22:22.53 | leethal | and self in no particular scope is of the Object class |
| 22:23.15 | amro | test.rb:5: private method `test' called for main:Object (NoMethodError) |
| 22:23.25 | amro | when I tried calling self.test |
| 22:23.32 | Industrial | question |
| 22:23.37 | leethal | oh, wait, it's NilClass |
| 22:23.39 | Industrial | exactly what mobs are pick-pocketable? |
| 22:23.47 | Xenok | humans and undeads |
| 22:23.48 | amro | mobs that have pockets |
| 22:24.10 | Xenok | s/humans/humanoids/ |
| 22:24.32 | Xenok | >-o-< Xwing come to save the day |
| 22:24.46 | amro | test.rb:5: private method `test' called for NilClass:Class (NoMethodError) |
| 22:26.44 | Xenok | I saw this very weird version of a scene in starwars V ... it was the part where the storm troopers where attacking luke and leia in the hallway then they go into the vent.. it was all done in ASCII |
| 22:26.44 | amro | leethal |
| 22:27.42 | cogwheel|work | Deth star: O |
| 22:27.51 | cogwheel|work | s/e/ea/ |
| 22:28.12 | Xenok | cogwheel!! omg!! hold on |
| 22:28.18 | Xenok | http://www.asciimation.co.nz/ |
| 22:28.35 | Xenok | its awsome |
| 22:28.43 | cogwheel|work | haha |
| 22:28.53 | leethal | amro: pwnd. gotta look that up |
| 22:29.30 | leethal | amro: btw, you don't have to go method() when calling a method, just method is enough |
| 22:29.40 | Xenok | cogwhel you have to check that out |
| 22:29.47 | cogwheel|work | i am :P |
| 22:30.01 | Xenok | lol |
| 22:30.55 | TC_Working | it does seem to have a certian....elegance |
| 22:31.14 | Xenok | the asciimation? |
| 22:31.17 | TC_Working | yes |
| 22:31.20 | Xenok | lol yeah |
| 22:31.36 | TC_Working | still 1 min of that and my eyes hurt |
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| 22:31.57 | Xenok | lol im to the part where c3po is in the jawa slave ship |
| 22:32.14 | Xenok | and luke is picking r2d2 |
| 22:32.15 | abug | UnitHealth() got stealth changed? damn that slouken |
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| 22:39.28 | amro | leethal, I know () is optional, that was my original point |
| 22:43.12 | Xenok | is there a way to change what the text in a fonstring says depending on the zone im in with tables without haveing to do something like this: http://wowi.pastey.net/7918 and then having to make a whole set of if then/elseif s for each zone >< |
| 22:43.38 | amro | you could have a table indexed with zone names |
| 22:43.49 | Xenok | like what i have there? |
| 22:43.58 | amro | then set it to text[zonename] |
| 22:44.02 | amro | hold on a sec |
| 22:44.05 | Xenok | k |
| 22:46.33 | amro | you need to set the names to something |
| 22:46.44 | amro | so that Arathi Highlands corresponds to the text you want |
| 22:47.01 | amro | like zontext["Arathi Highlands"] = "Some text" |
| 22:47.02 | Xenok | like.. uh.. hm |
| 22:47.04 | Xenok | oh |
| 22:47.54 | Xenok | ill try |
| 22:48.22 | Xenok | like .. in the table itself. or as a sepereate thing? |
| 22:49.48 | amro | uh what do you mean? I'm not sure how to set indices with spaces with that syntax |
| 22:50.04 | amro | so you might have to have a line like zontext["Arathi Highlands"] = "Some text" for each zone |
| 22:50.12 | Xenok | ok |
| 22:51.23 | Xenok | so like.. i leave the table as it is and then put like "local zonetext["Arathi Highlands"] = "some text" |
| 22:51.46 | amro | no |
| 22:51.49 | Xenok | doh |
| 22:51.50 | amro | you remove what you already have |
| 22:54.32 | Xenok | so i would have something like http://wowi.pastey.net/7919 ? |
| 22:56.04 | sysrage | anybody here happen to have a recommendation for a particular forceware version for a 6800gt? |
| 22:56.22 | TC_Working | the one that works the best |
| 22:56.29 | sysrage | woot. thanks :P |
| 22:56.41 | amro | Xenok, no, hold on a sec |
| 22:56.47 | Xenok | lol ok |
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| 22:57.30 | amro | Xenok, http://wowi.pastey.net/7920 |
| 22:57.54 | Xenok | k |
| 23:00.07 | Xenok | now how would i get the text thats set to it into a fontstring?: function blah() fonstringname:SetText(PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA["Arathi Highlands"]) end ? |
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| 23:09.29 | demon_0069 | can any of you help me out with gatherer? |
| 23:10.25 | sysrage | did i read somewhere that an upcomming patch will update macro icons depending on the modifier you're pressing? |
| 23:10.59 | Xenok | macros with modifiers = hard to use macro |
| 23:11.08 | sysrage | uh, no? |
| 23:11.09 | Karrion | sysrage: yep, 2.1.0 I believe |
| 23:11.14 | sysrage | karrion: sweet |
| 23:11.19 | sysrage | modifiers own |
| 23:11.33 | sysrage | nothing like making 1 button do a ton of different things just by changing modifier |
| 23:11.39 | Xenok | saves space yes.. but I have to manuver my finger right to be able to click it.. thats hard |
| 23:11.41 | demon_0069 | so can any of you help? |
| 23:12.00 | sysrage | my hand is always right next to ctrl/alt/shift anyway |
| 23:12.18 | demon_0069 | so no? |
| 23:12.24 | sysrage | all psychic technicians are on break |
| 23:12.29 | Xenok | I use wasd too.. but it is hard to do when i am moving :P |
| 23:12.31 | sysrage | you'll have to actually ask a question, or wait till they come back |
| 23:12.38 | demon_0069 | lol |
| 23:12.43 | amro | http://caribjournal.com/2007/03/07/use-your-brain-to-play-games-or-play-with-your-emotions/ |
| 23:12.50 | demon_0069 | attempt to index local 'zoneData' with gatherer, any ideas? |
| 23:13.01 | Xenok | 10(179:099:3010) 10(915demon_006910) can any of you help me out with gatherer? |
| 23:13.36 | Xenok | but that is a little vague |
| 23:13.38 | amro | Xenok, yes that function should work, but you may want to do :SetText(PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA[GetZoneInfo()]) or whatever the function to get the zone name is |
| 23:13.59 | Xenok | aight |
| 23:14.04 | demon_0069 | ok, want me to get the full code? |
| 23:14.19 | Xenok | im still new.. so ... I won't be much help |
| 23:14.34 | sysrage | probably have a lot better luck on the gatherer forums |
| 23:14.52 | Xenok | but then you have to wait for someone to respond.. might take DAYS |
| 23:14.58 | demon_0069 | yep |
| 23:15.10 | demon_0069 | i looked it up no answers yet, i get that error with every version |
| 23:15.22 | cogwheel|work | there's also the #norganna channel |
| 23:15.31 | demon_0069 | it wont post any notes nothing |
| 23:15.37 | Xenok | norganna being the author? |
| 23:15.46 | demon_0069 | nah, the cahnnel |
| 23:15.53 | demon_0069 | no one there responding |
| 23:16.24 | cogwheel|work | well, most of the people there are also here, and they are most likely to know, so... |
| 23:16.38 | cogwheel|work | i can't be encouraging as to the help you might find here... :| |
| 23:16.44 | Industrial | Cide: I _love_ how CT_BuffMod looks. Any chance for a mod that does spell timers? (like cc durations, autoshot/meelee attack bar, energy tick, blobal cooldown, 5sec mana regen delay, maybe even spell cooldowns) |
| 23:17.20 | demon_0069 | Message: ..\AddOns\Gatherer\GatherStorage.lua line 546: |
| 23:17.36 | demon_0069 | thats evrytime i open map |
| 23:18.04 | Xenok | amro: .. now how would I make it so that the text I set only shows up when I select that zone from a dropdown? |
| 23:18.44 | amro | I've never used dropdowns before |
| 23:18.53 | Xenok | then Ill have to think >< |
| 23:18.55 | Xenok | lol |
| 23:19.15 | sysrage | demon you're using 2.99.0.0498 ? |
| 23:19.22 | demon_0069 | yes |
| 23:19.23 | Xenok | or what about when I click a button that corrosponds with the zone.. basicly the exact same thing |
| 23:19.32 | demon_0069 | want the debug too? |
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| 23:19.43 | cogwheel|work | demon_0069: have you eliminated the possibility that it's some other addon interfering? |
| 23:19.56 | cogwheel|work | (i.e. log in with all addons turned off but gatherer) |
| 23:19.59 | demon_0069 | im doing that atm |
| 23:20.09 | Cide | Industrial: thanks :) |
| 23:20.17 | Xenok | amro: afaik that is possible |
| 23:20.27 | Xenok | but I don't know how |
| 23:20.32 | demon_0069 | h/e ive tryed earlier versions, and it seems i still get same errors |
| 23:21.20 | Cide | it's not a bad idea, but it's pretty hard to find time to do anything =/ |
| 23:21.41 | sysrage | did you wipe your WTF and WDB folders? |
| 23:21.58 | amro | Xenok, yeah it's possible, but I can't help you there because I haven't used dropdowns |
| 23:22.00 | Xenok | why did they name that folder WTF? |
| 23:22.07 | amro | Warcraft Text File |
| 23:22.09 | sysrage | just so you could ask WTF they were thinking |
| 23:22.18 | demon_0069 | NVM, one of my addons is messing it up |
| 23:22.21 | Xenok | well dropdowns are the same thing as buttons. only then are shrinked |
| 23:22.31 | Xenok | and expanded |
| 23:22.47 | Xenok | how would I do it with a button then? |
| 23:23.08 | amro | erm, call that function in your onclick? |
| 23:23.20 | Industrial | Cide: heh i know the problem >_> |
| 23:23.29 | Xenok | >< maybe |
| 23:25.21 | Xenok | well amro.. what I mean is.. how can I do it wothough a 300 mile long lua of if thens and elseifs? |
| 23:25.32 | Xenok | without* |
| 23:25.58 | Cide | Industrial: adding timers is pretty easy though, so it's not a bad idea and definitely something we could look into doing |
| 23:26.28 | amro | Xenok, I already told you how to do that |
| 23:26.35 | Xenok | didn't notice.. |
| 23:26.44 | demon_0069 | hey, any idea which mods it could be? like regarding what area of the game? |
| 23:26.53 | Xenok | simple demon |
| 23:27.00 | Xenok | just have one mod active at a time |
| 23:27.33 | Xenok | if it works... move on to the next addon... then once you find the addon that messes it up... disable it |
| 23:28.09 | Xenok | oh.. amro.. you DID tell me XD |
| 23:29.15 | demon_0069 | yeah thats what im doing |
| 23:29.28 | demon_0069 | and i think i figured it out, CT_map mod |
| 23:29.51 | Xenok | yeah.. could be cuz the error you had was with the map |
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| 23:32.13 | leethal | so.. if I want something to count seconds from /myaddon somecommand, I gotta use OnEvent for that? |
| 23:32.21 | leethal | (looking for clever clues) |
| 23:33.18 | demon_0069 | let me double check whether CT is messing it up |
| 23:33.20 | Shadowed | What are you trying to do? Are you trying to display a timer or figure out how many seconds from the time they called /myaddon somecmmand? |
| 23:33.57 | leethal | Shadowed: display a timer |
| 23:34.59 | Shadowed | You'd need to use OnUpdate then to update the timer then |
| 23:35.18 | leethal | hm.. I think I'll go study some other addon that does this |
| 23:35.29 | leethal | seems like it's a bit harder that super-easy |
| 23:35.29 | Shadowed | CT_Timer does it if you want to take a look at that |
| 23:35.34 | leethal | ah, thanks |
| 23:37.50 | Xenok | amro: you know how to make it display the text with :SetText(PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA[GetZoneText()]) when its like durotar and only show it when I click the button that says.. durotar..? |
| 23:38.08 | Xenok | >< |
| 23:38.39 | amro | do fontstring:SetText(PRT_BOOKMARK_DATA["Durotar"]) on the onclick? |
| 23:38.55 | Xenok | oooo that might work |
| 23:39.17 | Cide | demon_0069: messing up what? |
| 23:42.23 | cogwheel|work | you're more likely to be eaten alive by a mountain lion than to win Mega Millions... |
| 23:43.05 | zenzelezz | you're also more likely to be killed from a falling coco nut than by a shark |
| 23:43.05 | Xenok | just relized that cogwheel? |
| 23:43.17 | Xenok | REALLY?! |
| 23:43.27 | cogwheel|work | just read that |
| 23:43.57 | rjaym | damn coconuts |
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| 23:44.02 | Xenok | lol |
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| 23:48.09 | rjaym | just making sure before i try this, if you create a frame with CreateFrame(), you can destroy it by setting the object returned = nil? |
| 23:49.32 | zenzelezz | you can never destroy frames |
| 23:49.45 | zenzelezz | short of ReloadUI() |
| 23:51.15 | amro | i hear chuck norris can |
| 23:51.21 | rjaym | so ReloadUI() will simply reinit all frames |
| 23:51.26 | rjaym | for all addons |
| 23:51.35 | wereHamster | it reloadds the whole UI |
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| 23:51.53 | rjaym | but doesn't keep the frames created from the previous ui |
| 23:51.56 | wereHamster | just like if you'd log out and log in again |
| 23:52.25 | leethal | helcular's rod is not win |
| 23:53.14 | leethal | btw, is creating frames with lua cool kid? Or is XML also cool kid? |
| 23:53.28 | cogwheel|work | both are cool kid imo |
| 23:53.50 | cogwheel|work | or more to the point, using both to take advantage of their strengths is uber cool kid |
| 23:53.53 | leethal | kay. Used to ace addons, with no xml at all. Moved away from ace, no idea what to do hehe |
| 23:54.00 | leethal | ooh, sweetness |
| 23:55.18 | leethal | the strength of lua is... hmm.. you can name and call them dynamically? |
| 23:55.23 | Industrial | < leethal> helcular's rod is not win |
| 23:55.26 | cogwheel|work | dynamically is the main strength of lua. templating and a more "natural" layout is a strenth of xml |
| 23:55.30 | Industrial | yeh screw the new npc levels |
| 23:55.34 | cogwheel|work | s/stren/streng/ |
| 23:55.34 | leethal | Industrial: been farming 1 hour for that |
| 23:55.41 | cogwheel|work | grrr... something like that |
| 23:55.48 | leethal | cogwheel|work: I see, thanks =D |
| 23:55.52 | Industrial | leethal: bring a 70 for the second part :P |
| 23:56.04 | leethal | the lighting-fires-thingie? |
| 23:56.13 | Industrial | level 5 guards = you die period |
| 23:56.22 | cogwheel|work | also, if you use an XML editor that can do autocomplete based on the XSD you'll save yourself a lot of time (both over xml without autocomplete, and often over lua code) |
| 23:56.24 | Industrial | the part where you plant it at the grave |
| 23:56.39 | Industrial | 65* |
| 23:56.44 | leethal | Industrial: I did that some days ago with another alt, it went fine. no guards around |
| 23:56.59 | Industrial | hm |
| 23:57.21 | leethal | sneaky sneaky via the river |
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