| 00:01.01 | Xenok | so in that thing you gave me "MyAddon_Notes" is the exact name of the variable? |
| 00:01.22 | Xenok | nvm |
| 00:20.10 | Xenok | something must be wrong with http://wowi.pastey.net/7665 cuz it still isn't showing what I put into my edit box O.o |
| 00:27.35 | Shirik | Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: TOC element VERSION not found |
| 00:27.46 | Shirik | who was it that said I can expect ## Version in every addon! |
| 00:28.11 | Shirik | =P |
| 00:28.29 | Xenok | you can't? |
| 00:29.19 | Shirik | apparently there are addons that exist that don't have version info in their toc file :P |
| 00:29.23 | Shirik | so I'll have to watch out for that |
| 00:30.44 | oCladhaire | no one said you can expect it |
| 00:30.47 | oCladhaire | they just said it was supported. |
| 00:30.59 | Shirik | =( stop ruining my moment of triumph! |
| 00:31.01 | oCladhaire | =) |
| 00:32.39 | Xenok | something must be wrong with http://wowi.pastey.net/7665 cuz it still isn't showing what I put into my edit box O.o |
| 00:32.42 | JoshBorke | ~poke oCladhaire |
| 00:32.44 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind oCladhaire, pokes oCladhaire repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 00:32.45 | oCladhaire | hi |
| 00:33.15 | JoshBorke | gief perfectraid goodness! |
| 00:33.17 | oCladhaire | ... |
| 00:33.20 | oCladhaire | what do you want? |
| 00:33.25 | JoshBorke | i dunno, i'm just messing |
| 00:33.26 | Xenok | me? |
| 00:34.08 | Xenok | if your talkig to me I want to save what I type into an editbox into a variable and show in a frame.. but it still won't show |
| 00:34.35 | JoshBorke | clad was talking to me |
| 00:34.38 | Xenok | darn |
| 00:35.37 | oKirkburn | I wish IE7 told me when RSS feeds moved :P I had wondered why I hadn't got anything from WoWI for a while :) |
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| 00:47.30 | Xenok | can anyone help me with http://wowi.pastey.net/7665? |
| 00:57.39 | JoshBorke | does dongle have comm serialization? |
| 00:57.44 | oCladhaire | no |
| 00:57.49 | JoshBorke | k |
| 01:24.12 | oKirkburn | Hey, if anyone wants to read a really beautiful story this evening (70 pages), I suggest this - http://www.zanorg.com/virginie/eng/ |
| 01:24.39 | JoshBorke | geebus! 70 pages! |
| 01:24.45 | JoshBorke | that's longer than a chapter in my book! |
| 01:24.53 | JoshBorke | my attention span falters after 5! |
| 01:24.59 | Xenok | lol same |
| 01:25.28 | zenzelezz | if only I had the URL to that "TLDR" cat picture |
| 01:26.00 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:26.16 | oKirkburn | You all deserve a slap |
| 01:26.19 | oKirkburn | :) |
| 01:26.39 | oKirkburn | It's mostly pwetty pictures! |
| 01:26.45 | zenzelezz | I'm afraid "beautiful" isn't a priority for what I read |
| 01:27.11 | JoshBorke | good thing he said pretty then |
| 01:29.44 | Gnarfoz | it says kek at the bottom |
| 01:29.44 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 01:29.44 | oKirkburn | It's from the guy behind the irritating games - http://www.zanorg.com/prodperso/jeuxchiants/index_eng.htm |
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| 01:30.50 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:30.50 | Shirik | I think the pizza delivery guy got in an accident |
| 01:30.51 | Shirik | my pizza's all smushed >< |
| 01:30.51 | oCladhaire | =( |
| 01:30.51 | oCladhaire | you eat pizza lots. |
| 01:30.52 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:30.52 | oCladhaire | i'm jealous. |
| 01:30.52 | Shirik | I do |
| 01:30.52 | Shirik | pizza's good for you |
| 01:30.52 | Shirik | if I weren't eating pizza daily, I'd be eating mcdonalds' daily |
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| 01:31.06 | oCladhaire | =) |
| 01:31.41 | Gnarfoz | pizza owns. |
| 01:31.49 | oKirkburn | You're making me hungry :( |
| 01:32.41 | zenzelezz | only six and a half hours until the store opens and I can go buy some food :-o |
| 01:33.20 | Shirik | http://84.18.207.39/images/cheeseburger-pizza.jpg |
| 01:33.31 | oKirkburn | 404 |
| 01:33.45 | Shirik | er.. |
| 01:33.58 | Shirik | http://www.cheese-burger.net/images/cheeseburger-pizza.jpg ? |
| 01:34.11 | oKirkburn | That one worked :) |
| 01:39.40 | JoshBorke | i can't believe i'm reading this... |
| 01:41.38 | Shirik | reading what? |
| 01:42.29 | JoshBorke | 20:24:11) oKirkburn: Hey, if anyone wants to read a really beautiful story this evening (70 pages), I suggest this - http://www.zanorg.com/virginie/eng/ |
| 01:42.40 | Gnarfoz | I did, too |
| 01:42.40 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 01:46.10 | JoshBorke | purl, stab oKirkburn |
| 01:46.17 | purl | ACTION runs at oKirkburn with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 01:46.37 | oKirkburn | Owie! |
| 01:47.44 | Xenok | OMG!! Im SO frustrated >< why is it that http://wowi.pastey.net/7667 doesn't show my editbox text >< !!! |
| 01:48.45 | JoshBorke | did you make love to it? |
| 01:49.05 | JoshBorke | notes is an empty string? |
| 01:50.06 | oKirkburn | Wow these photos of a crashed car are incredible - most importantly no-one got hurt at all. Absolutely incredible luck: http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11342&page=2 |
| 01:50.31 | Gnarfoz | Xenok: notes = "" overwrites the saved text on load, I guess? |
| 01:51.17 | JoshBorke | you pull the string out of the text frame but then you set the text frame with the exact same stuff |
| 01:51.31 | JoshBorke | sorry, looking at the wrong one |
| 01:51.52 | JoshBorke | if (initnotes == notes) then --> that will only work if notes == "" which means it is an empty textbox |
| 01:52.55 | Shirik | JoshBorke :( |
| 01:53.02 | Shirik | I liked that story |
| 01:53.07 | Shirik | though I only read like the first 10 pages |
| 01:54.11 | Xenok | sorry was afk |
| 01:56.33 | JoshBorke | the story is good during the first 10 pages :-P |
| 01:56.33 | JoshBorke | skipped to the last 20 |
| 01:58.08 | Xenok | JoshBorke: that empty textbox comment: what do I do then? |
| 01:58.30 | Xenok | get rid of notes = ""? |
| 01:58.41 | JoshBorke | what are you trying to do? |
| 01:59.23 | Xenok | display whats in the textbox |
| 01:59.59 | Xenok | and save it so its alwasy there |
| 02:00.10 | JoshBorke | if you don't change the text in the textbox, it should always be there |
| 02:00.28 | Xenok | well I want to be able to add to it later |
| 02:02.38 | Xenok | so what I want is to be able for the user to edit the text in the frame |
| 02:04.39 | Ogngsk | what's the easiest way to get 1050 from 1400x1050? string.gsub? |
| 02:04.54 | JoshBorke | string.gsub? |
| 02:05.14 | JoshBorke | Xenok: i still don't understand then. you can get the text with GetText() like you're doing |
| 02:05.24 | Xenok | yeah . but it won't show |
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| 02:05.45 | JoshBorke | what won'ts how? |
| 02:05.54 | Xenok | the text in the textbar |
| 02:05.56 | JoshBorke | the textbox is already shown |
| 02:06.10 | Xenok | riiiight but I want to display the text in frame |
| 02:06.16 | JoshBorke | what frame? |
| 02:06.31 | Xenok | just a sec |
| 02:07.48 | Xenok | a fontstring rather.. I want the user to edit the fontstring to thier benifit... called noteedit |
| 02:07.50 | JoshBorke | solo'd the first pull in bot :-D |
| 02:08.19 | Xenok | the fontstring is called noteedit* |
| 02:08.26 | JoshBorke | where can they set the text then? if noteedit is the name of a fonstring, what's the name of the textbox? |
| 02:09.08 | Xenok | ummm XD it must be showing the text in the textbar . its named noteedit too.. omg im dumb |
| 02:11.10 | Xenok | still no showing text O.o |
| 02:12.19 | JoshBorke | why don't you pastecode the XML too |
| 02:12.42 | Xenok | the textbar or the fontstring that shows it? |
| 02:12.48 | Xenok | supposed to show |
| 02:13.09 | JoshBorke | your entire xml file |
| 02:13.24 | Xenok | its umm long |
| 02:13.58 | JoshBorke | then just those 2 things |
| 02:14.20 | Xenok | ok |
| 02:18.02 | Xenok | frame that has the edit box in it --> http://wowi.pastey.net/7668 the frame that is supposed to show the text --> http://wowi.pastey.net/7669 (the frame opens .. just not the text) |
| 02:18.56 | JoshBorke | Xenok: does it show yummy tos tart with? |
| 02:19.05 | Xenok | yes |
| 02:19.18 | Xenok | it shows yummy but it doesn't change.. |
| 02:20.00 | JoshBorke | and what happens if you type (in game) /script noteedit:SetText('Yummy2') |
| 02:20.06 | Xenok | ill see |
| 02:21.15 | Xenok | it says /script noteedit:SetText('Yummy2') in /say chat |
| 02:22.25 | oCladhaire | ... |
| 02:22.50 | Xenok | lol I fixed it |
| 02:22.53 | Xenok | it changed |
| 02:23.20 | JoshBorke | so that means you can change the text of the fontstring |
| 02:23.37 | JoshBorke | now we're going to see if you can get the text out of the editbox |
| 02:23.57 | Xenok | umm ok |
| 02:24.02 | JoshBorke | put something in the editbox. then type: /script noteedit:SetText(noteeditbar:GetText()) |
| 02:24.15 | Xenok | hold on |
| 02:25.22 | Xenok | worked |
| 02:26.31 | Xenok | nooow to get it from a variable |
| 02:27.56 | Tain | Oh Microsoft and your wacky Daylight Savings Time update support. |
| 02:29.23 | Xenok | JoshBorke: now I want the text in the edit bar to save to a var.. then be able to display it in the frame as a var |
| 02:29.49 | JoshBorke | Xenok: myTextVar = noteeditbar:GetText() |
| 02:29.57 | JoshBorke | Xenok: noteedit:SetText(myTextVar) |
| 02:30.04 | Xenok | hmm |
| 02:30.33 | Xenok | basicly what i have in my lua |
| 02:30.41 | Xenok | oh wait |
| 02:31.33 | Xenok | thats what I have just no working |
| 02:34.02 | JoshBorke | well, the events you are using look really weird to me. perhaps they have something to do with it |
| 02:34.06 | Gnarfoz | anyone know where Enchantrix went with auctioneer 4.0? |
| 02:34.19 | Xenok | I was wondering the same thing Gnarfoz |
| 02:34.23 | Gnarfoz | it was in all the 3.9 releases, but it's simply a folder with 'nopatch' in it in 4.0 |
| 02:34.46 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 02:34.51 | Gnarfoz | it's not 4.0 yet >_< |
| 02:34.54 | Xenok | LOL |
| 02:34.59 | Gnarfoz | must have failed to build or something? |
| 02:36.49 | Xenok | JoshBorke: we can go from http://wowi.pastey.net/7671 and see what we need to change |
| 02:37.19 | Xenok | prolly alot :P |
| 02:39.08 | JoshBorke | Xenok: that should work just fine |
| 02:39.42 | Xenok | odd. it just made yummy go away.. but no imput text |
| 02:48.20 | Xenok | JoshBorke: it doesn't work :P |
| 02:48.40 | Gnarfoz | name my Draenei Paladin! |
| 02:48.46 | JoshBorke | bob |
| 02:48.52 | Xenok | popabubble |
| 02:48.57 | JoshBorke | dunno then |
| 02:49.03 | JoshBorke | you have to be doing something wrong |
| 02:49.10 | Xenok | I just don't see what |
| 02:49.32 | JoshBorke | oCladhaire: ping |
| 02:49.36 | oCladhaire | hi |
| 02:50.02 | JoshBorke | oh wait! nvm. i know now. wait. maybe not |
| 02:50.08 | Xenok | lol |
| 02:50.29 | JoshBorke | using clique, i have left-click set as resurrection for oh blast |
| 02:50.33 | JoshBorke | nvm, i see it. i'm dumb |
| 02:50.45 | oCladhaire | umm |
| 02:50.46 | oCladhaire | hi |
| 02:50.46 | oCladhaire | =) |
| 02:50.59 | JoshBorke | how's your weekend gone? |
| 02:51.52 | oCladhaire | its gone, that's sad enoughj =/ |
| 02:52.01 | JoshBorke | indeed it is |
| 02:52.08 | Xenok | gah.. I still don't see my problem >< |
| 02:52.20 | oCladhaire | I finished the last draft of my research proposal |
| 02:52.24 | oCladhaire | its all full of lua goodness. |
| 02:52.31 | JoshBorke | research on lua? o.O |
| 02:52.35 | oCladhaire | yep |
| 02:53.13 | JoshBorke | that's cool |
| 02:53.29 | JoshBorke | were you teh one doing a thesis on teaching? |
| 02:53.46 | oCladhaire | yeah |
| 02:53.48 | oCladhaire | something like that. |
| 02:53.52 | oCladhaire | you can read it if ya want |
| 02:53.52 | oCladhaire | heh |
| 02:54.00 | JoshBorke | teaching programming principles |
| 02:57.01 | JoshBorke | i remember when it came up, because scheme came up too |
| 02:57.12 | Xenok | weeiiirrddd I have notes = noteeditbar:GetText(); and noteedit:SetText(notes); right under it ... but the text IN notes only shows when I use SetText(noteeditbar:GetText()); rather than "notes" O.o |
| 02:59.20 | Xenok | that really makes me go "wtf?!" |
| 03:02.41 | Xenok | anyone? |
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| 03:36.06 | WobWork | Someone needs to teach Xenok the benefits of not using global variables with names like 'notes' |
| 03:36.16 | Corrodias | i like making global "x" |
| 03:36.17 | WobWork | s/names/genericish names/ |
| 03:37.15 | Sole | hallo wob |
| 03:38.17 | Sole | WobWork: sorry bout dissapearing, havent had too much time lately |
| 03:39.39 | WobWork | hehe, nor I really, is all good |
| 03:40.09 | Sole | anyway if I ever get round to working on action bars, |
| 03:40.58 | Sole | I'm just going to add a seperate layout to it which will behave like a normal action bar, then people could simply replace their action bar addon and not give me a headache about making a button work without being defined as an action button |
| 03:55.26 | oKirkburn|afk | Btw, Heroes is on in Canadia atm :P |
| 04:04.36 | Cide | boo |
| 04:04.39 | Cide | wtb in sweden |
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| 04:16.43 | Xenok | one would think that http://wowi.pastey.net/7674 would work O.o |
| 04:17.15 | Xenok | I have been trying things for a long time to get it to work |
| 04:18.58 | Xenok | any ideas? |
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| 04:25.31 | oTem | Xenok, you're going to have to give more context information that that if you actually want help |
| 04:25.47 | Xenok | didn't expect an awsner at all :P |
| 04:26.01 | oTem | s/that/than/ |
| 04:26.41 | Xenok | well first off... its supposed to show the text from the textbox "noteeditbar" . and save it into a var... but the var won't show in the SetText |
| 04:27.24 | Xenok | it only works with SetText(noteeditbar:GetText()); |
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| 04:34.27 | JoshBorke | hey hey clad, did you study my school o>O |
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| 06:02.15 | Xenok | I see nothing wrong with http://wowi.pastey.net/7676 yet it doesn't display the notes variable |
| 06:02.21 | Xenok | im so ticked |
| 06:04.13 | Xenok | ive been working on it for about 3 or 4 hours |
| 06:06.21 | Tierrie | has anyone passed values to UIDropDownMenu_Initialize() before? |
| 06:06.38 | Xenok | let me check |
| 06:07.41 | Xenok | prolly not a normal way |
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| 06:08.24 | Xenok | my onload of my dropdown http://wowi.pastey.net/7677 |
| 06:09.06 | Xenok | but I dont' know if thats what you mean |
| 06:10.21 | Xenok | and note the change in http://wowi.pastey.net/7678 |
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| 06:11.53 | Xenok | maybe someone can help me with my prob: |
| 06:11.57 | Xenok | I see nothing wrong with http://wowi.pastey.net/7676 yet it doesn't display the notes variable |
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| 06:24.47 | Xenok | can anyone help me? |
| 06:27.27 | Sstixrud | What does "Attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) mean exactly? |
| 06:29.26 | Tierrie | 10Sstixrud:01 it means you tried to access a variable that has the value "nil" |
| 06:30.30 | Sstixrud | well I am getting it on this: "if UBVAR.DYNVARS[uClass][SpellName] then" but I know it exists.. I event print out uClass and SpellName prior to that line and they look fine |
| 06:30.36 | Tierrie | 10Xenok:01 why don't you add a few print statements in line 5 and line 13 and see where its failing |
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| 06:30.51 | Shirik | Tierrie: I can't read a thing you're writing >< |
| 06:30.53 | Tierrie | yes but does UBVAR.DYNVARS[uClass][SpellName] exist? |
| 06:30.55 | Xenok | me either |
| 06:30.56 | Shirik | colors ftl |
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| 06:31.07 | Shirik | I have a black background :( |
| 06:31.07 | Tierrie | well damnit that's what happens when i cut and paste people's name on trillian :() |
| 06:31.08 | Xenok | just highlight it |
| 06:31.18 | Xenok | highlight the black text .. |
| 06:31.27 | Shirik | too hard |
| 06:31.35 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:31.37 | Sstixrud | Tierrie should it matter? If it doesn't it should trigger my else statement no? |
| 06:31.57 | Tierrie | Sstixrud: it could be going to 13 and then SetText("") |
| 06:31.59 | Xenok | print statements? I need to look that up lol |
| 06:32.23 | Sstixrud | huh |
| 06:32.25 | Tierrie | print() = DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() |
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| 06:32.54 | Tierrie | seriously, for developmental purposes just map that function to print |
| 06:33.10 | Shirik|AFK | er |
| 06:33.11 | Shirik|AFK | you mean |
| 06:33.20 | Shirik|AFK | print = DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage |
| 06:33.22 | Shirik|AFK | er |
| 06:33.25 | Xenok | XD |
| 06:33.27 | Shirik|AFK | print = DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.AddMessage |
| 06:33.44 | Shirik|AFK | better yet, print = function(arg) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(arg) end |
| 06:33.58 | Tierrie | dude |
| 06:34.03 | Tierrie | don't make me stab you |
| 06:34.04 | Sstixrud | Tierrie how would I do that exactly? |
| 06:34.07 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:34.13 | Shirik|AFK | you can't do print() = :P |
| 06:34.17 | Shirik|AFK | print() is not an l-value |
| 06:34.46 | Tierrie | http://wowi.pastey.net/7679 |
| 06:34.56 | Tierrie | I put it in my mod's namespace |
| 06:35.00 | Shirik|AFK | that works |
| 06:35.12 | Tierrie | you could also name it myprint |
| 06:35.18 | Tierrie | or goshdarnititsaprint |
| 06:35.23 | Shirik|AFK | but you can't do print() = |
| 06:35.24 | Tierrie | printdamitprint |
| 06:35.39 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:35.40 | Tierrie | yeah you can't do _G["print"] = X |
| 06:35.51 | Tierrie | or maybe you can if you write difectly to it in _G |
| 06:35.57 | Tierrie | or rawwrite |
| 06:35.59 | Tierrie | rawr |
| 06:36.08 | Shirik|AFK | rawrwrite ^^ |
| 06:36.16 | Tierrie | best to contaminate your own namespace |
| 06:36.28 | Tierrie | don't be making global variables or functions |
| 06:36.50 | Shirik|AFK | global variables are very ftl |
| 06:36.52 | Xenok | so I just add the new lua you posted tierrie or do I edit it somehow? im new rmember? |
| 06:36.58 | Shirik|AFK | unfortunately a ton of addons pollute the global namespace to hell |
| 06:37.25 | Tierrie | well first of all, CHUD is my namespace, so use whatever namespace you're using |
| 06:37.33 | Xenok | erm |
| 06:37.55 | Tierrie | and self.debug_msg is my debug variable defined somewhere as CHUD = { debug_msg = true, debug_frame = true, etc ec} |
| 06:38.10 | Tierrie | but my guess is that you're not using a namespace but just writing willy nilly to global, in which case you have to name it function myprint() or something like that |
| 06:38.27 | Xenok | lemme look up waht namespace is reall quick |
| 06:38.29 | Xenok | XD |
| 06:38.31 | Tierrie | haha |
| 06:38.43 | Tierrie | namespace is where you try to put your whole project into a kind of a table |
| 06:38.55 | Xenok | .. |
| 06:39.14 | Xenok | now I have to learn how to do that :P |
| 06:39.14 | Tierrie | some projects like mine have very simple namespaces, like CHUD:MyFunction1, CHUD:MyFunction2 |
| 06:39.23 | Tierrie | other projects like RDX have really complex namespaces |
| 06:39.42 | Tierrie | think about it as a variable |
| 06:39.49 | Tierrie | so I have this variable CHUD = {} and its a table |
| 06:40.08 | Xenok | umm ok? |
| 06:40.16 | Tierrie | what i am doing is this --> CHUD["MyFunction"] = function () something something end, |
| 06:40.33 | Tierrie | so MyFunction is a table KEY and the function itself is the VALUE |
| 06:40.35 | Tierrie | get it so far? |
| 06:40.52 | Xenok | like key as in activator and value as in behind the door? |
| 06:41.00 | Xenok | I think differntly |
| 06:41.05 | Tierrie | uh no |
| 06:41.07 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:41.17 | Tierrie | do you know how a table in lua works? |
| 06:41.48 | Xenok | not entirly |
| 06:41.54 | Xenok | lol im brand new to this... |
| 06:41.58 | Tierrie | ok a) you should probably read it up |
| 06:42.05 | Tierrie | b) do you know how arrays and hashes in perl work? |
| 06:42.22 | Xenok | this is my first ever time coding anything.. soo I don't know perl .. |
| 06:42.23 | Tierrie | c) do you know how arrays work? |
| 06:42.47 | Tierrie | d) do you know what is an array? |
| 06:42.55 | Tierrie | e) how about "what" do you know what is a "what"? |
| 06:43.11 | Xenok | eh . what? |
| 06:43.16 | Tierrie | heh ok no to all? |
| 06:43.21 | Xenok | correct |
| 06:43.44 | Tierrie | ok well a simple concept is that a table is something like a lookup |
| 06:43.53 | Tierrie | there's a key, which maps to a value |
| 06:44.00 | Xenok | will http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#3.13 help me? |
| 06:44.34 | Tierrie | http://www.lua.org/pil/2.5.html <- better |
| 06:46.13 | Xenok | say my name when you want to say something to me.. I have that thing shirik has so it will pop up.. reading this lol |
| 06:46.26 | Tierrie | really? |
| 06:46.27 | Tierrie | shirik |
| 06:46.37 | Shirik|ReallyAFK | I will slice you open and eat your babies |
| 06:46.39 | Tierrie | hahaha |
| 06:47.18 | Xenok | LOL |
| 06:47.44 | Xenok | sorry didn't mean to make that hapen |
| 06:47.51 | Xenok | shirik |
| 06:47.52 | Tierrie | what? you mean that business with shirik? |
| 06:47.55 | Xenok | yeah |
| 06:47.59 | Tierrie | dude don't worry shirik is cool with that |
| 06:48.00 | Xenok | hehe |
| 06:48.02 | Tierrie | but he's afk |
| 06:48.04 | Tierrie | so its ok |
| 06:48.10 | Xenok | stil reading |
| 06:48.23 | Tierrie | honestly, you should read all of PIL |
| 06:48.39 | Tierrie | at least up to chapter 17 |
| 06:49.03 | Xenok | I will eventualy |
| 06:49.03 | Tierrie | its way mroe helpful than that jankass manual that is written for people who want to embed lua |
| 06:49.11 | Xenok | lol |
| 06:49.51 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | so... here goes nothing |
| 06:49.59 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | in the worst case, my program will delete my entire WoW install |
| 06:50.04 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | and maybe my windows folder |
| 06:50.06 | Tierrie | dude |
| 06:50.08 | Xenok | why? |
| 06:50.09 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | in the best case it will auto-update my apps ^^ |
| 06:50.10 | Tierrie | how about backing up your crap |
| 06:50.15 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | I'm lazy |
| 06:50.17 | Xenok | omg |
| 06:50.19 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | actually it's supposed to auto-backup |
| 06:50.20 | Tierrie | cool famous last words |
| 06:50.23 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | so we'll see how that works |
| 06:50.25 | Xenok | LOL |
| 06:50.45 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | RDX is on an SVN, that's all I care about |
| 06:50.52 | Tierrie | i remember that's what hermann goering said before he killed himself with arsenic -- "i hope i remembered to save" |
| 06:50.54 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | so if that's lost, it's two clicks away from getting it back :P |
| 06:51.19 | Tierrie | "Man I hope I didn't overwrite my last save" -- Saddam Hussein |
| 06:51.34 | Tierrie | "OH SHIT I FORGOT TO SAVE" -- Bismarck |
| 06:51.37 | Xenok | so like a = {} creates the table.... k = "x" creates the key "x" a[k] = 10 will create a value for key x and print(a["x"]) will pring "10" |
| 06:51.45 | Tierrie | yes |
| 06:51.50 | Xenok | cool |
| 06:52.12 | Xenok | let me write mine for my lua then real quick |
| 06:52.15 | Tierrie | uh |
| 06:52.18 | Xenok | ? |
| 06:52.24 | Tierrie | we were talking about namespaces |
| 06:52.32 | Xenok | oh yeah |
| 06:52.32 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | a = {} |
| 06:52.34 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | evil! |
| 06:52.52 | Xenok | ~stab Shirik|NotAsAFK |
| 06:52.54 | purl | ACTION runs at Shirik|NotAsAFK with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:52.54 | Tierrie | ok so a["x"] will print 10 |
| 06:53.06 | Tierrie | and a.x is syntactic sugar for a["x"] |
| 06:53.11 | Tierrie | so print (a.x) will also print 10 |
| 06:53.13 | Tierrie | got it so far? |
| 06:53.21 | Xenok | yes i think so =) |
| 06:53.24 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | ~lart Xenok |
| 06:53.29 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | locals! |
| 06:53.29 | Xenok | eep |
| 06:53.43 | Tierrie | ok your values do not have to be integers or strings, it can be functions |
| 06:53.51 | Xenok | Oh cool |
| 06:54.10 | Xenok | so like hold on |
| 06:54.11 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | a["y"] = function() DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Hello world!"); end |
| 06:54.16 | Xenok | darn you |
| 06:54.17 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | then you can do a.y(); |
| 06:54.44 | Tierrie | yes |
| 06:54.44 | Xenok | yeah I was going to type something like that shirik |
| 06:55.11 | Tierrie | and a:y(...) is syntactic sugar for a.x(self, ...) |
| 06:55.24 | Tierrie | that should have been a y in both cases |
| 06:55.29 | Xenok | I figured |
| 06:55.44 | Tierrie | a:y() and a.y() are not the same! |
| 06:55.54 | Tierrie | a:y(...) == a.y(self, ...) |
| 06:56.06 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | though |
| 06:56.07 | Xenok | hmm |
| 06:56.20 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | I do believe that a:y == a.y if you actually tried to perform a test |
| 06:56.26 | Tierrie | probably |
| 06:56.30 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | like if (a:y == a.y) should be true |
| 06:56.41 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | but that's just something random I threw out there... for all intents and purposes, they are not equal! |
| 06:56.45 | Tierrie | it might just compare funciton addresses so its possible |
| 06:56.52 | nymbia | Shirik|NotAsAFK: yes but it'd error |
| 06:56.52 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | pretty sure that's what it does |
| 06:57.18 | Tierrie | ok digressing -- Xenok, so my namespace is CHUD:x() |
| 06:57.19 | nymbia | Shirik|NotAsAFK: you cant do a:y without actually calling it |
| 06:57.31 | Shirik|NotAsAFK | curses, foiled again |
| 06:57.37 | Xenok | ok |
| 06:57.38 | Tierrie | so CHUD:print() is my CHUD["print"] = function() DEFAULT..... end |
| 06:58.20 | Tierrie | however when I am coding I my mod I am always in some sort of CHUD:X() function, so I can always always write -> self:print("This is a test") |
| 06:58.35 | Tierrie | and then debugging has just gotten infinitely easier |
| 06:59.24 | Xenok | ok .. now to make my namespace.. I would umm type MYNAME:X() at the top eh? |
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| 06:59.46 | Tierrie | you could just replace all your function with XenokWuzHere:function |
| 06:59.55 | Xenok | lo |
| 06:59.59 | Xenok | l |
| 07:00.04 | Tierrie | and when you call your function it would have to be XenokWuzHere:function or self:function |
| 07:00.57 | Xenok | soooo CHUD:x() is the sugar for what? |
| 07:01.08 | Tierrie | CHUD.x(self |
| 07:01.12 | Xenok | ah |
| 07:01.28 | Tierrie | so really, CHUD.x(CHUD |
| 07:01.45 | Tierrie | self refers to itself, CHUD |
| 07:01.45 | Xenok | I Keep pronoucing CHUD like Chad |
| 07:01.49 | Xenok | right |
| 07:02.43 | Xenok | soo I would just type CHUD:x() to get your pasty http://wowi.pastey.net/7679 to work? |
| 07:02.48 | Xenok | I think? |
| 07:03.12 | Tierrie | yeah |
| 07:03.18 | Tierrie | why you gotta steal my namespace |
| 07:03.20 | Tierrie | why why |
| 07:03.26 | Tierrie | i kill you and your babies |
| 07:03.29 | Xenok | just for testing purposes and speed |
| 07:03.57 | Xenok | then I would paste your pasty on the bottem of my lua? |
| 07:04.26 | Tierrie | yes |
| 07:04.42 | Tierrie | you would also need to have set CHUD.debug_msg = true if you intended to use printd |
| 07:04.57 | Xenok | actually I wasn't |
| 07:05.21 | Tierrie | printd is so much cooler, you can put it anywhere you bloody feel like it, set CHUD.debug_msg = false, and then release it |
| 07:05.48 | Xenok | then in line 13 of my pasty I would type something? |
| 07:06.49 | Xenok | like add CHUD:print(msg) after noteedit:SetText(notes);? |
| 07:06.58 | Xenok | I think? |
| 07:07.17 | Tierrie | yeah |
| 07:07.19 | Xenok | k |
| 07:07.46 | Xenok | then fire WoW and do something? :P |
| 07:07.59 | Tierrie | shirik |
| 07:07.59 | Tierrie | sure |
| 07:08.14 | Tierrie | those two words are like next to each other |
| 07:08.19 | Tierrie | on the keyboard |
| 07:08.25 | Tierrie | common typo |
| 07:09.12 | Xenok | attempt to index global 'CHUD' (a nil value) XD |
| 07:09.24 | Xenok | I screwed up |
| 07:09.39 | Tierrie | put a CHUD = {} before those functions |
| 07:09.54 | Xenok | wait. do I type local CHUD:x() at the top of my lua? |
| 07:10.06 | Xenok | thats what it was refereing to |
| 07:10.23 | Xenok | instead of just CHUD:x() |
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| 07:10.54 | Xenok | it pointed to the line that had that |
| 07:12.01 | Tierrie | no you do not localize CHUD:x() |
| 07:12.07 | Tierrie | because CHUD needs to be in the global namespace |
| 07:12.08 | Xenok | umm ok |
| 07:12.18 | Xenok | right.. maybe cuz i forgot to write a table |
| 07:12.20 | Xenok | ? |
| 07:12.40 | Tierrie | probably |
| 07:12.48 | Tierrie | just put CHUD = {}; before those functions |
| 07:13.10 | Xenok | the line above the function? |
| 07:14.53 | Xenok | it says theres something wrong with the line that has CHUD:x() |
| 07:15.47 | Tierrie | are you literally writing CHUD:x()? |
| 07:15.52 | Xenok | you said to :P |
| 07:16.16 | Tierrie | you're not writing CHUD:print() and copying that function down or anything, you're writing "CHUD:x()"? |
| 07:16.27 | Xenok | on line 1 |
| 07:16.38 | Xenok | CHUD:x() is on line 1 |
| 07:17.09 | Tierrie | ok well, just copy my pastey line 9 to 13 |
| 07:17.26 | Tierrie | and put that anywhere in your code outside of a function |
| 07:17.32 | Tierrie | at the end is a good place |
| 07:17.34 | Xenok | I did aready |
| 07:17.45 | Tierrie | ok then remove that CHUD:x() line, and then run it |
| 07:18.19 | Xenok | no errors |
| 07:18.38 | Xenok | but ... no print? |
| 07:19.02 | Tierrie | so you wrote CHUD:print(msg)? |
| 07:19.06 | Xenok | yes |
| 07:19.09 | Tierrie | or did you write CHUD:print("HI I AM HERE") |
| 07:19.14 | Tierrie | ok well, write the latter |
| 07:19.18 | Xenok | the first one |
| 07:19.38 | Tierrie | because CHUD:print(msg) is telling it to print the variable, which happens to be undefined and thus it doesn't print |
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| 07:20.03 | Xenok | hold on |
| 07:20.45 | Xenok | I have on line 13 noteedit:SetText(notes); CHUD:print("testing"); |
| 07:20.57 | Tierrie | ok pastey what you got |
| 07:21.00 | Xenok | ok |
| 07:21.52 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7680 |
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| 07:23.45 | Shirik | whoo :D |
| 07:23.49 | Shirik | worked like a charm |
| 07:23.57 | Xenok | yay lol |
| 07:24.06 | Shirik | well |
| 07:24.11 | Shirik | it didn't ever say "Hey you're done" but |
| 07:24.15 | Shirik | that's a minor fix :P |
| 07:24.24 | Xenok | so whats the extent of the wowiupdtater? what does it do exactly once its done? |
| 07:24.36 | Tierrie | http://wowi.pastey.net/7681 |
| 07:24.49 | Tierrie | updates your mods to the latest versions I am guessing |
| 07:24.52 | Tierrie | then it crashes your computer |
| 07:24.58 | Xenok | LOL why would it crash? |
| 07:25.26 | Shirik | Currently it (1) Detects your addons, (2) attempts to connect to the server to identify them by their UID, (3) asks you to help it find the UID where needed, (4) Connects to WoWI to download the latest version info, (5) downloads the new version if needed, |
| 07:25.28 | Tierrie | because Shirik would accidently QoS your outgoing bandwidth to 0 |
| 07:25.47 | Xenok | ohhh |
| 07:25.54 | Xenok | I won't get it then :P |
| 07:26.08 | Shirik | (6) Asks you to confirm the installation, (7) backs up your existing installation, (8) cleans out the existing installation, and (9) finally extracts the new version into the appropriate folder (after detecting where it should go) |
| 07:26.30 | Tierrie | and then QoS your outgoing bandwidth to 0? |
| 07:26.36 | Xenok | quite a project |
| 07:26.41 | Shirik | It's been requested, and will probably be implemented that it will download your current favorites if they are missing, as well |
| 07:27.10 | Shirik | and yes |
| 07:27.14 | Shirik | then QoS bandwidth = 0 |
| 07:27.23 | Tierrie | YAY! |
| 07:27.29 | Tierrie | feature complete! |
| 07:27.32 | Shirik | followed by installation of a keylogger |
| 07:27.36 | Shirik | but since your bandwidth = 0, it doesn't matter |
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| 07:27.45 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:28.01 | Xenok | Why does a keylogger have to show up :P |
| 07:28.11 | Shirik | I'll be perfectly honest I don't even know how to begin coding a keylogger in java |
| 07:28.17 | Shirik | C++ I could do it, java's just a pain |
| 07:28.27 | Xenok | you can make keyloggers? |
| 07:28.31 | Xenok | im scared now |
| 07:28.34 | Shirik | ha |
| 07:28.38 | Shirik | don't worry I'm not evil |
| 07:28.45 | Xenok | no really.. you made me scared |
| 07:28.52 | Shirik | besides, I will be releasing all of the source code |
| 07:29.00 | Shirik | and I'm sure others will review it to make sure it's safe |
| 07:29.07 | Xenok | I won't get it :P |
| 07:29.08 | Tierrie | Shirik is not evil, he is just "ev". And he will darn you to heck. |
| 07:29.19 | Tierrie | DARN YOU TO HECK! |
| 07:29.39 | Tierrie | hey |
| 07:29.41 | Tierrie | if you guys have stocks |
| 07:29.49 | Tierrie | might want to check this out |
| 07:29.50 | Tierrie | http://finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia |
| 07:30.01 | Tierrie | tomorrow = world goes to hell |
| 07:30.08 | Shirik | Oh that should be fun |
| 07:30.15 | Shirik | My mom works for the NASD, she'll be bitching at me all day tomorrow now |
| 07:30.19 | Shirik | just because I'm someone easy to vent at |
| 07:30.25 | Xenok | chud just spammed "notesave_OnEvent called" |
| 07:30.36 | Shirik | omg... |
| 07:30.41 | Shirik | what is with the market lately |
| 07:30.57 | Shirik | oh well, I'm a long-term investor i'm not going to let my investments be influenced by this crap |
| 07:31.17 | Xenok | 605.98 (3.12%)!!!! |
| 07:31.23 | Xenok | down!! |
| 07:31.50 | Shirik | it's been like this for a week now |
| 07:32.05 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:32.08 | Xenok | anyway: |
| 07:32.10 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:32.10 | Xenok | chud just spammed "notesave_OnEvent called" |
| 07:32.16 | Tierrie | Good thing I spent my money frivilously instead of investing it |
| 07:32.20 | Shirik | ha |
| 07:32.35 | Tierrie | well Xenok, what do you think just happened |
| 07:32.40 | Xenok | it was called |
| 07:32.47 | Tierrie | ok and was the second print statement called? |
| 07:32.50 | Shirik | ~cheer Xenok |
| 07:33.04 | purl | ACTION cheers Xenok on |
| 07:33.04 | Shirik | purl, you suck |
| 07:33.05 | purl | no, *you* suck! |
| 07:33.05 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:33.06 | Xenok | i will see tierrie |
| 07:33.08 | Shirik | !! |
| 07:33.10 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:33.21 | Xenok | someone ping purl |
| 07:33.31 | Shirik | 02:33:27 [CTCP: Purl] PING |
| 07:33.31 | Shirik | 02:33:28 [CTCP 1173080007 reply from purl]: |
| 07:33.31 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:33.38 | Shirik | I think purl's ping is broke |
| 07:33.49 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:33.55 | Tierrie | Xenok: http://wowi.pastey.net/7683 try this |
| 07:33.59 | Tierrie | and then you tell me what happened |
| 07:34.01 | Xenok | Tierrie no just spam |
| 07:34.40 | Xenok | hold on |
| 07:34.47 | Shirik | purl is responding with /ctcpreply <timestamp> instead of /ctcpreply PING <timestamp> |
| 07:35.13 | Xenok | OMG I FAILED TO CONSIDER THIS POSSIBILITY spam |
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| 07:35.19 | Shirik | ow caps |
| 07:35.22 | Tierrie | there you go Xenok |
| 07:36.06 | Xenok | now what? the variable still won't show :P |
| 07:36.52 | Tierrie | now its time for you to think |
| 07:37.01 | Tierrie | and figure out why the variable will not show |
| 07:37.04 | Xenok | I think I might now... |
| 07:37.07 | Xenok | know* |
| 07:37.23 | Xenok | hold on |
| 07:37.48 | Xenok | no I don't |
| 07:38.30 | Xenok | I tried moving the noteedit:SetText(notes); ot the omg I failed handler but still nothing |
| 07:38.45 | Xenok | omg i failed print* |
| 07:39.11 | Tierrie | ok there are only 3 possibilities |
| 07:39.23 | Xenok | that elseif should be an else? |
| 07:39.26 | Shirik | ow |
| 07:39.31 | Tierrie | noteeditbar is not "" because otherwise it would have gone to the first if statement |
| 07:39.41 | Shirik | DJIA is already down 100 points in early trading |
| 07:39.53 | Xenok | right |
| 07:39.53 | Tierrie | and it is not notes == notebox() because noteeditbar ~= "" MUST be true |
| 07:40.05 | Tierrie | so therefore notes ~= notebox() |
| 07:40.24 | Tierrie | and you figure out why that's the case and if you even care if its false or whatever |
| 07:40.33 | Tierrie | Shirik: tomorrow is going to hurt |
| 07:40.37 | Shirik | oh well :P |
| 07:40.50 | Tierrie | Shirik: well don't cut anyone off in the streets they might shoot you |
| 07:40.57 | Shirik | I live in Daytona Beach |
| 07:41.00 | Shirik | that happens every day |
| 07:41.04 | Xenok | rof |
| 07:41.07 | Xenok | rofl* |
| 07:41.09 | Tierrie | well |
| 07:41.14 | Tierrie | this time they may choose to not miss |
| 07:41.26 | Shirik | I'm flattered that you are worried about my safety |
| 07:41.43 | Tierrie | what can I say? i want my bandwidth throttled |
| 07:42.05 | Shirik | whoo! wow forums are a big white page |
| 07:43.38 | Xenok | tierrie: you never finished expaining to me how to figure it oug |
| 07:43.42 | Xenok | out* |
| 07:44.02 | Tierrie | Xenok: because I feel that I have given you enough information to figure it out yourself |
| 07:44.08 | Xenok | er |
| 07:44.27 | Xenok | but I can't? |
| 07:44.48 | Tierrie | Xenok: that's because you expecting me to give you the answer and not thinking about it yourself |
| 07:44.55 | Xenok | shhh |
| 07:45.02 | Xenok | >< |
| 07:45.02 | Tierrie | I'm Zen |
| 07:45.29 | Shirik | I beg to differ |
| 07:45.31 | Shirik | 02:45:04 ‹Tierrie› I'm Zen |
| 07:45.31 | Shirik | 02:45:24 » Nickname 'Zen' is already in use |
| 07:45.45 | Tierrie | :( |
| 07:46.01 | Shirik | › address: n=tierrie@adsl-68-126-202-96.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net vs › address: n=null@unaffiliated/zen |
| 07:46.14 | Shirik | Tierrie ~= Zen |
| 07:49.50 | Tierrie | ;( |
| 07:49.57 | Tierrie | you know what happens this week on the 8th? |
| 07:50.08 | Tierrie | give you a hint its 15 x 20 |
| 07:50.08 | Shirik | 24 hours? |
| 07:50.17 | Shirik | um |
| 07:50.18 | Shirik | 300 |
| 07:50.21 | Tierrie | yah! |
| 07:50.29 | Shirik | so |
| 07:50.31 | Shirik | what's 300? |
| 07:50.49 | Tierrie | have you been living in a country which has periodically been bombed or something? |
| 07:50.58 | Shirik | um |
| 07:51.04 | Shirik | can we consider the election of our president a bomb? |
| 07:51.22 | Shirik | it was just as destructive |
| 07:51.36 | Tierrie | http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/300.html |
| 07:51.43 | Tierrie | Theatrical Trailer |
| 07:51.55 | Shirik | ah, a movie? |
| 07:52.00 | Shirik | I know zero about movies |
| 07:52.07 | Shirik | like take everything I know about computers |
| 07:52.08 | Shirik | invert that |
| 07:52.10 | Shirik | that's what I know about movies |
| 07:52.19 | Tierrie | ok click on it, watch the trailer |
| 07:52.22 | Tierrie | and then tell me it sucks |
| 07:52.36 | Shirik | LDAA shiriks_knowledge_about_computers; XOR A; STAA shiriks_knowledge_about_movies; |
| 07:52.42 | Tierrie | i will teach you like i taught xenok about the pleasures of life! |
| 07:52.47 | Tierrie | watch it! |
| 07:52.57 | Shirik | s/XOR A/XOR A #%11111111/ |
| 07:53.16 | Xenok | ~lart Shirik |
| 07:53.20 | Shirik | ~lart purl |
| 07:53.26 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:53.38 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:53.42 | Shirik | that's pretty funny actually |
| 07:53.46 | Xenok | yes it was XD |
| 07:54.02 | Shirik | <3 "geek humor" ? don't know what else to call it :P |
| 07:54.08 | Xenok | hehe yeah |
| 07:54.25 | Xenok | purl, you suck |
| 07:54.32 | purl | no, *you* suck! |
| 07:54.35 | Shirik | purl is slow today |
| 07:54.37 | Xenok | orly? |
| 07:54.48 | Xenok | purl, ping |
| 07:54.50 | purl | pong |
| 07:54.52 | Xenok | lol |
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| 07:55.00 | Xenok | that was awsome |
| 07:55.13 | Xenok | purl, omg |
| 07:55.16 | purl | i guess omg is what ppl say when they see a printed copy of the CORBA specs. "OMG! IT'S HUGE!". Oh My God |
| 07:55.26 | Xenok | orly? |
| 07:55.27 | Shirik | purl, I love you |
| 07:55.28 | purl | You love you? |
| 07:55.31 | Tierrie | are you watch this shirik? |
| 07:55.35 | Shirik | I will :P |
| 07:55.38 | Shirik | gotta finish something up first |
| 07:55.51 | Xenok | purl, masturbate |
| 07:55.52 | Elkano | dolby-wowi, in case you're online: I just filed another bug report wrt author portals in the forums |
| 07:56.00 | Elkano | ~asl |
| 07:56.01 | purl | Old enough, yes please, my place. |
| 07:56.01 | Xenok | sory had to try that |
| 07:56.09 | Xenok | yes please!! |
| 07:56.12 | Xenok | lol |
| 07:56.44 | Xenok | purl, slap me |
| 07:56.45 | purl | ACTION slaps xenok, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 07:56.58 | Xenok | quite a complex script |
| 07:56.59 | Shirik | Elkano, I don't think he's here but I should talk to him later today so I'll pass the word on :) |
| 07:57.20 | Tierrie | this is just too awesome |
| 07:57.30 | Xenok | purl, type |
| 07:57.32 | purl | ⌨ |
| 07:57.40 | Xenok | orly? |
| 07:57.50 | Xenok | purl, math |
| 07:58.11 | Xenok | purl, 2+2 |
| 07:58.12 | purl | 4 |
| 07:58.15 | Xenok | yay |
| 07:58.19 | Xenok | one last one |
| 07:58.23 | bleetah | lol @ purl and CORBA specs |
| 07:58.34 | Xenok | purl, 72983+61239847 |
| 07:58.35 | purl | 61312830 |
| 07:58.39 | Xenok | wow |
| 07:58.43 | Shirik | purl, sin(2+2)/arccos(.75)*sqrt(2)/pi |
| 07:58.49 | Shirik | =( |
| 07:58.51 | Xenok | LOL |
| 07:59.00 | Shirik | purl, e^(i*pi) |
| 07:59.09 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:59.12 | Shirik | that's just -1! |
| 07:59.13 | Shirik | come on |
| 07:59.24 | Elkano | purl, spqr(4) |
| 07:59.34 | Shirik | spqr? |
| 07:59.56 | Elkano | hmpf... don't write what comes to your mind ^^' |
| 08:00.00 | Elkano | purl, sqrt(4) |
| 08:00.05 | bleetah | purl, e^(i*pi) |
| 08:00.06 | purl | just -1! |
| 08:00.07 | Xenok | purl, 3*5(3+3[5*32]) |
| 08:00.11 | Shirik | !! |
| 08:00.34 | Elkano | purl, pi |
| 08:00.35 | purl | rumour has it, pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 08:00.35 | bleetah | heh, I cheated for ya and programmed it as such ;) |
| 08:00.37 | Shirik | ow |
| 08:00.39 | Xenok | lol |
| 08:00.55 | Xenok | purl, circle |
| 08:01.04 | Elkano | purl, be more precise |
| 08:01.06 | Sstixrud | if I have a = {party1 = "1"} how would I do like: "local i = a.party1" ? |
| 08:01.20 | Shirik | I don't understand the question |
| 08:01.28 | Shirik | if local i = a.party1 |
| 08:01.30 | Tierrie | neither do I |
| 08:01.30 | Xenok | purl, 3x5(3+3[5x32]) |
| 08:01.32 | Shirik | then yes, i = "1" |
| 08:01.40 | Sstixrud | I want to make a local variable i that equals the value of a.party1 |
| 08:01.44 | Shirik | s/=/==/ |
| 08:01.52 | Tierrie | local i = a.party1 would work |
| 08:02.02 | Tierrie | local i = a["party1"] would work too |
| 08:02.05 | Sstixrud | thanks |
| 08:02.31 | Xenok | purl, 3+3*4(5+5) |
| 08:02.43 | Xenok | purl, I hate you |
| 08:02.44 | purl | You hate you? |
| 08:02.44 | Shirik | purl, 3+3*4*(5+5) |
| 08:02.46 | purl | 123 |
| 08:02.48 | Shirik | see |
| 08:02.51 | Shirik | you have to think like a computer |
| 08:02.53 | Shirik | not a mathematician |
| 08:02.54 | Xenok | lol |
| 08:03.06 | Shirik | 4(5+5) is not valid in any computer language afaik |
| 08:03.13 | Xenok | howed I know an equation that was 123?! |
| 08:03.33 | Xenok | purl, ding |
| 08:03.34 | purl | [ding] dong |
| 08:03.34 | Shirik | it's too ambiguous |
| 08:03.41 | Xenok | runn! |
| 08:03.55 | Xenok | purl, program |
| 08:03.56 | purl | program is, like, software designed to complete a specific task, like a cabbage blender |
| 08:04.01 | Xenok | LOL |
| 08:04.16 | Xenok | purl, WoW |
| 08:04.17 | purl | rumour has it, wow is the best game ever! |
| 08:04.23 | Xenok | ok ill stop |
| 08:04.35 | Xenok | ooo one last one |
| 08:04.39 | Xenok | purl, Xenok |
| 08:04.51 | Xenok | ~lart purl |
| 08:04.55 | Xenok | AHH! |
| 08:05.32 | MentalPower|AFK | gnight guys |
| 08:05.37 | Shirik | night |
| 08:11.17 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7686 gives me the I AM HERE MOMMY print buut .... it doens't show the text >< |
| 08:12.37 | Shirik | that would imply your noteedit frame is invisible |
| 08:12.49 | Xenok | hmmmm |
| 08:13.10 | Shirik | there are requirements for a frame to be visible: |
| 08:13.27 | Xenok | other than hidden="true" ? |
| 08:14.43 | Shirik | it must (1) have a point, (2) have all of its ancestors visible, and (3) have a size |
| 08:16.19 | Xenok | I have all of those |
| 08:16.34 | Shirik | how did you verify (2) |
| 08:16.41 | Xenok | oh |
| 08:16.41 | Shirik | actually tell me how you verified all of them |
| 08:16.46 | Xenok | shhh |
| 08:16.52 | Xenok | wiat |
| 08:17.12 | Xenok | umm |
| 08:17.30 | Xenok | I don't know T_T |
| 08:17.47 | Shirik | then why do you assume that you have them |
| 08:17.54 | Shirik | do you know what a "point" is? |
| 08:18.01 | Xenok | where it is? |
| 08:18.06 | Shirik | what |
| 08:18.12 | Xenok | then no |
| 08:18.20 | Shirik | how can you know where it is if you don't know what it is? |
| 08:18.29 | Xenok | umm.. |
| 08:18.45 | Xenok | purl, kill me |
| 08:18.46 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxtachyon gun at xenok |
| 08:18.52 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint |
| 08:20.20 | Xenok | so when you mean ancestors.. you mean ALL the frames that are difined in the lines above? |
| 08:20.31 | Shirik | one at a time |
| 08:20.34 | Shirik | figure out #1 first |
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| 08:23.04 | Xenok | shouldn't my achor points be the same thing? |
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| 08:25.35 | Xenok | cuz after I put my lua.. even the word yummy is gone |
| 08:25.43 | Xenok | and i didn't change anything in my points |
| 08:26.02 | Shirik | after you put your lua? |
| 08:26.09 | Xenok | wiaaatttt |
| 08:26.17 | Xenok | I had a typo. maybe that was prob |
| 08:26.57 | Xenok | stilll nothing |
| 08:27.08 | Xenok | I mean changed my lua |
| 08:27.12 | Shirik | I believe you've never done a :SetPoint() on your frame |
| 08:27.15 | Shirik | which you need to do |
| 08:27.18 | Shirik | or else it will never show up |
| 08:28.42 | Xenok | says that "setpoint" is nil.. I might be able to fix that |
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| 08:29.53 | Shirik | setpoint would be nil |
| 08:29.56 | Shirik | because Lua is case sensitive |
| 08:30.18 | Xenok | I didn't caps it in chat.its capsed right in lua |
| 08:31.34 | Xenok | ok no error but still no text |
| 08:33.15 | Shirik | what did you write? |
| 08:33.47 | Xenok | noteedit:SetPoint("RIGHT", "UIParent", 0, 0); |
| 08:33.58 | Xenok | cuz thats where its supposed to show |
| 08:34.07 | Shirik | that's not valid |
| 08:34.11 | Xenok | umm |
| 08:34.12 | Xenok | oh |
| 08:34.22 | Shirik | first off, ALWAYS use a fully binding point unless you really know what you're doing |
| 08:34.34 | Shirik | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Positions |
| 08:34.39 | Shirik | i.e., don't use "RIGHT" |
| 08:34.45 | Shirik | secondly, you need two points |
| 08:34.49 | Shirik | frame's point and relative point |
| 08:35.12 | Xenok | ok.. but if I have right on my relitive point. wouldn't it go off screen? |
| 08:35.34 | Shirik | that line you gave doesn't even make sense |
| 08:35.46 | Shirik | it says "the right side of my frame binds to the zero point of UIParent" |
| 08:35.59 | Shirik | UIParent doesn't have a "zero" point... it has the same points as every other frame |
| 08:36.06 | Xenok | . |
| 08:36.08 | Shirik | TOPRIGHT, BOTTOMLEFT, CENTER, etc. |
| 08:36.12 | Shirik | you're missing that |
| 08:36.18 | Xenok | ok |
| 08:36.29 | Shirik | reread http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint |
| 08:36.55 | Xenok | noteedit:SetPoint("RIGHT", "UIParent", "RIGHT" 0, 0);? |
| 08:37.11 | Shirik | there you go |
| 08:37.21 | Shirik | but |
| 08:37.23 | Shirik | don't use "RIGHT" |
| 08:37.27 | Xenok | Center? |
| 08:37.36 | Shirik | read http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Positions and pick a fully binding point |
| 08:38.29 | Xenok | its supposed to show up in the center of the right part of the screen |
| 08:38.58 | Shirik | then use TOPRIGHT and use offsets from there |
| 08:39.39 | Xenok | change the first right or the second right to topright? |
| 08:39.46 | Shirik | both. |
| 08:39.53 | Xenok | K |
| 08:41.45 | Xenok | ')' expected near '0' but I have noteedit:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "UIParent", "TOPRIGHT" 0, 0); ... going to change the 0s in a min |
| 08:43.15 | Shirik | you're missing a comma |
| 08:43.58 | Xenok | ohhhhhh |
| 08:47.19 | Xenok | so I can't just have it set to "Right" I have to use offsets? |
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| 08:53.24 | DemoXin | anyone around? |
| 08:53.49 | Shirik | yo :) |
| 08:53.54 | Shirik | Xenok: You can but |
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| 08:53.59 | Shirik | it's a really bad idea, and doesn't work like you want it to |
| 08:54.00 | DemoXin | okay, quick gameplay question... |
| 08:54.14 | DemoXin | im reading up on endgame quests |
| 08:54.19 | DemoXin | how does attunement work? |
| 08:54.28 | Shirik | hmm |
| 08:54.32 | Shirik | that's a really big question |
| 08:54.33 | DemoXin | do i have to get reattuned everytime i want to enter naxx or MC |
| 08:54.36 | Xenok | wait wait wait!!! I have ..if ( noteeditbar == "" ) then blah blah.. then it should show yummy if the editbox is empty.. which it is.. but it goes strait to if ( noteeditbar ~= "" ) then O.o |
| 08:54.36 | Shirik | nono |
| 08:54.43 | Shirik | you do it once, and then you're set for life |
| 08:54.46 | DemoXin | or is it jsut do the quest once, then i can enter at will |
| 08:54.58 | DemoXin | okay, so attunement for Naxx is a 1 time investment |
| 08:54.59 | Shirik | some give you keys, some give you items, some just make you "attuned" without giving you anything |
| 08:55.03 | Shirik | in any case, you only do it once |
| 08:55.07 | DemoXin | okay |
| 08:55.16 | DemoXin | cuz i read the whole quest chain for onyxia's lair |
| 08:55.20 | Shirik | it's huge |
| 08:55.25 | DemoXin | and i figured i only needed to keep the key |
| 08:55.27 | Shirik | but yes, you only have to do it once ^^ |
| 08:55.33 | Shirik | actually, for that you get an amulet |
| 08:55.37 | Shirik | but the amulet works like a key :) |
| 08:55.40 | DemoXin | but Naxx costs a huge amount if ur not exalted |
| 08:55.52 | DemoXin | and MC would be a pain to do everytime |
| 08:55.56 | DemoXin | so i was makign sure |
| 08:56.14 | DemoXin | aside from those 3 though, what other raids do i have to be attuned, or somethign similar for? |
| 08:56.24 | Shirik | if you get to 70, karazhan |
| 08:56.27 | Shirik | BWL at 60 |
| 08:56.35 | Shirik | and there are a TON of keys |
| 08:57.03 | Shirik | between heroic mode instances at 70 and all kinds of stuff |
| 08:57.12 | DemoXin | how common is it to get people doing Naxx and BWL and MC and such? |
| 08:57.18 | DemoXin | cuz i know those are kind of outdated |
| 08:57.20 | Shirik | not so much anymore |
| 08:57.28 | Shirik | some people are doing fun stuff like 10 man MC runs |
| 08:57.32 | Shirik | or 5 man ony |
| 08:57.38 | Shirik | I know somebody tried to do a 2 man ony the other day |
| 08:57.55 | DemoXin | we had a naxx and a ZG guild, one for each, and neither of them do their respective raids anymore |
| 08:58.00 | Xenok | Shirik: read my last comment plz |
| 08:58.09 | Shirik | I did |
| 08:58.10 | DemoXin | how did that work for them? |
| 08:58.20 | Shirik | haha |
| 08:58.21 | Shirik | not so well |
| 08:58.40 | DemoXin | i know there's a party on some server that can do a 5-man AQ40 |
| 08:58.51 | DemoXin | it takes them around 10-15 minutes per pull |
| 08:58.54 | DemoXin | but they can do it |
| 08:59.03 | Shirik | Xenok: You didn't ask a question, btw |
| 08:59.26 | Xenok | O.o is gernarly a how do I fix |
| 08:59.38 | Shirik | how do you fix what? |
| 08:59.49 | Xenok | the wierdness of how it goes to something thats not true |
| 09:00.09 | DemoXin | now, BRD i can enter without attunement, correct? |
| 09:00.13 | Shirik | yes |
| 09:00.17 | Shirik | xenok: You have to be more specific |
| 09:00.26 | Xenok | ~lart Shirik |
| 09:00.41 | DemoXin | okay, one more question |
| 09:00.44 | DemoXin | completely offtopic |
| 09:01.02 | DemoXin | how does tier 3 from naxx compare to outland drops? |
| 09:01.14 | Shirik | approximately equivalent around 64ish |
| 09:01.29 | Xenok | why does it go to if ( noteeditbar ~= "" ) then if noteeditbar is empty O.o |
| 09:01.45 | DemoXin | would it be usable at 70, or is there something better that will look just as cool |
| 09:01.49 | Shirik | why don't you paste your code so I can see what you're looking at |
| 09:01.51 | DemoXin | <-- rogue, btw |
| 09:02.00 | Shirik | look as cool? Probably not |
| 09:02.04 | Shirik | but there will likely be something better |
| 09:02.10 | DemoXin | hmmm |
| 09:02.29 | DemoXin | my guild said they will run me thru naxx once i hit 60, since i dont have BC, nor will i prolly ever get it |
| 09:02.38 | Shirik | why not? |
| 09:02.50 | DemoXin | im just trying to figure out if ill be competing for the tier 3 quest pieces with them or not |
| 09:02.53 | Shirik | btw, Naxx is designed to still require a full raid team at 70 |
| 09:02.58 | DemoXin | cuz i never have 40$ at one time |
| 09:03.03 | Shirik | so it's not like they're going to be able to "run you through" |
| 09:03.17 | DemoXin | well, not so much run me thru |
| 09:03.19 | DemoXin | but go with me |
| 09:03.22 | subbot | i somehow doubt that Shirik |
| 09:03.27 | DemoXin | all the 60+ |
| 09:03.28 | Shirik | it's what's been said |
| 09:03.35 | Shirik | I don't know whether or not it's true |
| 09:03.44 | DemoXin | id heard that too |
| 09:03.50 | DemoXin | i assumed it was just a myth though |
| 09:03.54 | subbot | naxx by no means will be easy just because you have a bunch of 70s though |
| 09:04.03 | DemoXin | since the naxx guild on my server wasnt running naxx anymore |
| 09:04.09 | Shirik | wowwiki: "It is expected that when The Burning Crusade is released, finishing this instance will still require 20-30 well-equipped level 70 players." |
| 09:04.15 | Shirik | ok maybe a little overexxageration on my part but hey |
| 09:04.42 | DemoXin | i figure if they can do MC with 10 people, why not naxx with 15-20? |
| 09:04.54 | DemoXin | kel'thuzad cant be that much of a badass |
| 09:05.01 | subbot | it will depend on the fight |
| 09:05.04 | DemoXin | nor can the four horseman really.. |
| 09:05.14 | Xenok | shirik http://wowi.pastey.net/7690 |
| 09:05.54 | Shirik | so you're saying |
| 09:06.08 | Shirik | neither "what am I doing here" nor "I am here mommy" are displaying? |
| 09:06.35 | Xenok | no no no .. I am here mommy is displaying .. buuut its not supposed to until something is in the edit box.. |
| 09:07.05 | Shirik | I don't see how you can come to that conclusion |
| 09:07.29 | Xenok | its going straight to thinking theres someting in my edit box rather than nothing |
| 09:07.42 | Shirik | wait a second |
| 09:07.43 | Xenok | but once there IS something the words don't show in the frame |
| 09:07.45 | Shirik | noteeditbar == "" |
| 09:07.48 | Shirik | means absolutely nothing |
| 09:07.51 | Xenok | orly? |
| 09:07.59 | Shirik | noteeditbar is a frame, is it not? |
| 09:08.07 | Xenok | its an edibox |
| 09:08.10 | Shirik | that would be a frame |
| 09:08.19 | Xenok | the tag is <editbox> |
| 09:08.19 | Shirik | you have to do noteeditbar:GetText() == "" |
| 09:08.26 | Xenok | ohhhhh |
| 09:08.31 | Xenok | let me try |
| 09:10.35 | Xenok | ok now it shows yummy .. but it won't change to my text in my edit box |
| 09:11.04 | Shirik | noteedit:SetText(notesa); |
| 09:11.15 | Shirik | what is notesa? |
| 09:11.20 | Xenok | my variable |
| 09:11.23 | DemoXin | do u have to be honored with AD to get attuned to Naxx? |
| 09:11.25 | Shirik | what variable |
| 09:11.30 | Shirik | DemoXin: I'm really not sure >< |
| 09:11.55 | DemoXin | sorry, im kinda asking questions as i read and dont know answers from reading, lol |
| 09:12.08 | Shirik | o_o |
| 09:12.16 | Shirik | hey, my updater found an update that I wasn't even aware of! |
| 09:12.17 | Xenok | forgot to write local notesa in the pasty but other than that lines 1-5 |
| 09:13.28 | Xenok | umm wait |
| 09:15.44 | Xenok | now it says that when I try to call notebox() lines 1-5.. it says notebox is nil |
| 09:16.26 | Xenok | can't be nil cuz it is lines 1-5 |
| 09:17.59 | DemoXin | wow |
| 09:18.16 | DemoXin | i just watched a video of a guild raiding naxx, and wiping on kel'thuzad... |
| 09:18.20 | DemoXin | in about 10 seconds... |
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| 09:19.06 | Xenok | you there shirik? |
| 09:19.22 | Shirik | hold up |
| 09:19.24 | Xenok | k |
| 09:19.37 | Shirik | it says notebox is nil? |
| 09:19.40 | Xenok | yup |
| 09:19.43 | Shirik | where? |
| 09:19.50 | Xenok | when I call it |
| 09:19.55 | Shirik | .. where |
| 09:20.01 | Xenok | just a min |
| 09:20.14 | DemoXin | why are stronger monsters always bigger? |
| 09:20.41 | DemoXin | last i checked, kel'thuzad was the same size as any other people |
| 09:20.49 | DemoXin | now he's like 40x that big? |
| 09:21.25 | Shirik | that's how those things go :P |
| 09:21.29 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7691 |
| 09:21.40 | Xenok | have to go |
| 09:22.07 | DemoXin | the whole concept, as far as im concerned, is that the awesomeness is that kel'thuzad had so much power while not being any bigger than anyone else |
| 09:24.15 | Shirik | ... this is going to sound really wier |
| 09:24.16 | Shirik | d |
| 09:24.22 | Shirik | but... my program is working too well |
| 09:24.29 | Shirik | It knows something... and it shouldn't know |
| 09:24.39 | amro | its a trick! run while you still can! |
| 09:24.49 | Shirik | somehow it knows my Bongos installation is up-to-date |
| 09:24.57 | Shirik | but... it doesn't have the file that tells it that it's up to date |
| 09:26.10 | Shirik | I need a break, pizza time |
| 09:26.19 | Shirik|Fooding | no... ramen |
| 09:28.10 | amro | can you still calll that debugging? |
| 09:28.39 | Shirik|Fooding | I dunno |
| 09:28.42 | Shirik|Fooding | should I call it dedebugging? |
| 09:28.52 | Shirik|Fooding | undebugging? |
| 09:28.55 | amro | rebugging? |
| 09:29.14 | Shirik|Fooding | rebugging would imply that it was debugged first though, which it most definitely wasn't |
| 09:42.34 | bleetah | not necessarily |
| 09:42.50 | bleetah | you could be replacing the old buggy code with new equally buggy code |
| 09:43.45 | Shirik|Fooding | are you implying that my code is typically buggy? |
| 09:44.08 | bleetah | nah, just trying to help define 'rebugging' |
| 09:44.40 | Shirik|Fooding | in any case... how the heck does it know bongos is up to date! |
| 09:44.46 | amro | your program has developed a conscience and is now acting on its own |
| 09:44.52 | Shirik|Fooding | It correctly identifies it as up to date, and it correctly identifies others as not up to date |
| 09:45.06 | Shirik|Fooding | ... but I deleted the versioning file so it should try to re-get that from the server T_T |
| 09:45.36 | Shirik|Fooding | perhaps it has |
| 09:45.38 | Shirik|Fooding | I've invented AI! |
| 09:45.44 | Shirik|Fooding | well |
| 09:45.51 | Shirik|Fooding | the first spontaneous AI |
| 09:46.08 | amro | that or you've overlooked something in your code (or when deleting that file) |
| 09:46.38 | Shirik|Fooding | unfortunately |
| 09:46.41 | Shirik|Fooding | the latter is probably true |
| 10:02.16 | Shirik|Fooding | oh crap |
| 10:02.21 | Shirik|Fooding | I see |
| 10:02.36 | Shirik|Fooding | it wasn't so much that the file didn't exist as it was in the wrong place |
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| 10:02.43 | Shirik|Fooding | I must have typed the bongos uid into one of the other addons >< |
| 10:08.53 | Kolth | Anyone prefer a particular DPS meter for its accuracy? |
| 10:09.14 | Shirik|Fooding | I modify my own accuracy with damage meters :P |
| 10:09.47 | Shirik | so damage meters + a few console commands |
| 10:09.53 | Shirik | works well enough for me, I have no idea how accurate it is |
| 10:10.02 | Kolth | Yeah. That's the thing. |
| 10:10.07 | Shirik | well think about it |
| 10:10.09 | Kolth | It's hard to define DPS anyways. |
| 10:10.11 | Shirik | can anyone really _prove_ its accuracy? |
| 10:10.25 | Kolth | Yeah. You'd take video of your damage. |
| 10:10.37 | Kolth | Stop-watch and all. |
| 10:11.00 | Shirik | I think it would be far easier to record the entire combat log |
| 10:11.01 | Shirik | but yeah |
| 10:11.16 | Shirik | you have fun doing that :P |
| 10:11.19 | Kolth | :) |
| 10:11.21 | Shirik | I'll just take the approximations |
| 10:11.33 | Kolth | I just notice, when I have four different addons up all calcing DPS, they give different results. |
| 10:11.45 | Shirik | that's probably because they all define dps differently |
| 10:11.50 | Kolth | Yeah |
| 10:11.52 | Shirik | when combat starts to when it ends? |
| 10:11.53 | Kolth | It's really hard to get people to agree on how to define it. |
| 10:11.55 | Shirik | when you fire your shot to yoru last? |
| 10:12.13 | Kolth | I like last-5s DPS in some cases. |
| 10:12.27 | bleetah | my *gut* feeling is that dmg meters records client side dps, when in fact it's server side that really counts (ie, lag spikes can cause differences re: DoT vs Melee etc.) |
| 10:12.29 | Kolth | Like when I'm comparing effectiveness of weapon improvements. |
| 10:12.37 | Kolth | hrm |
| 10:12.53 | Shirik | I'm sure it records client side dps |
| 10:12.56 | Shirik | how else could it operate? |
| 10:13.02 | bleetah | well yeah |
| 10:13.18 | bleetah | what I'm saying is that it's server side that one would really want to measure 'to be accurate' |
| 10:13.33 | Shirik | hey |
| 10:13.38 | Shirik | blizzard gave us damage/healing meters in BGs |
| 10:13.42 | Shirik | maybe we should just ask :P |
| 10:13.57 | bleetah | go for it :P |
| 10:14.18 | Shirik | I don't like damage meters anyway |
| 10:14.29 | bleetah | either way, I hope what I said made some kinda sense |
| 10:14.29 | Shirik | I'm not going to go asking for it |
| 10:17.04 | Shirik | ^(?:Addons|Interface/Addons)/([a-zA-Z0-9 _\.]+?)/?$ |
| 10:17.06 | Shirik | erk |
| 10:17.07 | Shirik | wrong window |
| 10:20.02 | Corrodias | yay... i got some sleep |
| 10:20.07 | Shirik | yey! |
| 10:24.01 | Corrodias | "Naxx costs a huge amount if ur not exalted" -- is this still true with the expansion out, now? |
| 10:25.31 | Elkano | I think yes |
| 10:25.46 | Elkano | since axx is still the top instance for those without BC |
| 10:26.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just bought attunement randomly |
| 10:26.12 | Corrodias | what i mean is, is it still a "huge amount" by BC standards? |
| 10:26.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | because 50g is next to nothing |
| 10:26.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 10:26.25 | Corrodias | 600g for mount training was pretty big back then |
| 10:26.30 | Shirik | T_T |
| 10:26.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i paid 50g to get attuned |
| 10:26.33 | Corrodias | *pretty huge for casuals |
| 10:26.35 | Shirik | I still don't have an epic ground mount >.> |
| 10:26.37 | Corrodias | 50g? easy-peasy |
| 10:26.40 | Shirik | and ... I'm kinda ... 70 |
| 10:26.50 | Corrodias | i can sell stacks of clefthoof leather for at least 45g |
| 10:27.05 | Shirik | as a result, I don't have a flying mount |
| 10:27.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | did you like grind to 70 and forget to loot shirik? |
| 10:27.09 | Shirik | as a result, I can't get attuned for kara |
| 10:27.15 | Shirik | no I blew it all on JC >.> |
| 10:27.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i disenchanted all my greens i didn't use and still had like 2000g at 70 |
| 10:27.42 | Shirik | stop making me cry |
| 10:27.44 | Shirik | purl, hold me |
| 10:27.51 | purl | ACTION Cuddles and comforts the poor down-troden shirik |
| 10:27.51 | Shirik | purl, hug me? |
| 10:27.54 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on shirik and suddenly hugs shirik tightly |
| 10:27.58 | Shirik | !!!!!!!! |
| 10:28.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | powerleveling a profession when all the mats are in high demand is not a great idea unless you have loads of money to spare |
| 10:28.18 | Shirik | I got double hugged ^^ I'm happy again |
| 10:28.29 | Shirik | yeah I know but I did it for everyone else |
| 10:28.35 | Shirik | nobody else in the guild was a JC so I went ahead and did it |
| 10:28.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 10:28.48 | Shirik | hated engineering anyway |
| 10:28.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | the sooner you learn to play the game for yourself and not others the sooner you'll have fun |
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| 10:29.06 | Shirik | so is omnicc not on wowinterface? |
| 10:29.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | because everyone else does anyway, you're just leaving yourself open for getting walked on by everyone :x |
| 10:30.11 | Shirik | meh, I don't play much anyway anymore |
| 10:30.14 | Shirik | I do far more coding than I do playing |
| 10:32.11 | sylvanaar | coding has kinda lost alot of its "fun" aspect now - with their taint implementation |
| 10:32.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've pretty much given up unless they decide to revert some of the druid nerfs |
| 10:32.32 | Shirik | well first things first, I'm not coding in lua :P |
| 10:32.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm playing a lock alt while i wait for my time to run out on my sub |
| 10:32.48 | Shirik | but secondly, I still like coding even with tainting |
| 10:33.07 | oHaste | sylvanaar: I wouldn't say so, it makes you have to do a little bit more, but it's still fun :) |
| 10:34.13 | Corrodias | now that my druid has nothing to do but farm leather/powder and run instances, i've had to warm up the old alts |
| 10:34.18 | sylvanaar | oHaste i guess its a "pass the torch" kind of fun |
| 10:34.22 | Corrodias | i decided on the name "Aidonal" for my new hunter |
| 10:34.58 | Shirik | cool cool |
| 10:35.36 | Corrodias | it still looks a little goofy, but i'll probably get used to it after playing him for a few days |
| 10:35.50 | Corrodias | i'm sure it's just residual discomfort from having used another name for a couple of hours |
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| 10:39.08 | sylvanaar | Mr_Rabies you shouldnt read the forums they give you a distorted perspective of things |
| 10:39.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | what do you mean |
| 10:39.55 | sylvanaar | Mr_Rabies about the nerfs |
| 10:40.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tested it out on the ptr |
| 10:40.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i honestly think fury warriors are better tanks than us now |
| 10:41.32 | sylvanaar | Mr_Rabies2 better at threat gen and damage avoidance/mitigation? |
| 10:41.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 10:41.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially threat gen |
| 10:42.16 | sylvanaar | well, thats a given since they outdps druids |
| 10:42.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | and none of our moves have threat modifiers anymore |
| 10:42.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, static ones |
| 10:43.09 | Corrodias | if bears can't do significant damage, then they aren't intended to match up to fury/arms warriors in damage. they must be intended to match up to prot warriors in threat generation. or maybe they just have no purpose. |
| 10:43.16 | Corrodias | if they can't do either, they really have no purpose. |
| 10:43.52 | Corrodias | tseric said that they want bears to be viable tanks still, like paladins, but god knows if they'll actually bother to make it true |
| 10:43.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you're fighting a bleed immune mob hope you have good healers because either they or the mage are gonna be tanking now |
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| 10:44.17 | Corrodias | yeah, that's just bizarre |
| 10:44.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | or more likely people just won't bring druids |
| 10:44.33 | Corrodias | why give druids a bleed effect for threat generation? |
| 10:44.41 | Corrodias | why make everything susceptible to sunder armor, even stuff that obviously has no armor? |
| 10:45.01 | Corrodias | is it simply because warriors cry? |
| 10:45.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | we lost our armor edge and health edge on warriors, we're only slightly higher now |
| 10:45.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was a better tank at 60 than i am on the ptr now |
| 10:45.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | pre 2.0 |
| 10:45.48 | Corrodias | we need Gello. itemrack needs updating! |
| 10:46.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had 10,000 HP pre 2.0 at 60 with fort and kings, and 12000 armor |
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| 10:46.15 | sylvanaar | yeah, hybrids dont get to be hybrids in the endgame min/max scenerio |
| 10:46.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | so basically they lied |
| 10:46.36 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all ! |
| 10:47.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | they said they wanted us to be hybrids instead of stuck in 1 role again but then they go and do stuff like that |
| 10:47.08 | Shirik | morning' |
| 10:47.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | when it's no longer fun, why play :x |
| 10:47.14 | YammYgirlcoding | guys, is there a way to parse a recipe we can craft's description to get the item level ? |
| 10:47.15 | Shirik | s/'// |
| 10:47.18 | Shirik | wow that worked |
| 10:47.46 | sylvanaar | but you cant min/max hybrid |
| 10:47.48 | Shirik | s/// |
| 10:48.12 | YammYgirlcoding | hybrids? my feral cat is way better than my rogue... go figure :) |
| 10:49.09 | sylvanaar | you have mangle? |
| 10:49.10 | Corrodias | learn 2 play rogue |
| 10:49.15 | YammYgirlcoding | mangle. ya :) |
| 10:49.27 | Corrodias | they can vanish, blind, and evasion to name a few things |
| 10:49.40 | YammYgirlcoding | i tried everything with the rogue. it's way much slower than the cat. |
| 10:49.56 | YammYgirlcoding | vanish blind and evasions have too long cds. |
| 10:50.03 | YammYgirlcoding | it's not very productive this way |
| 10:50.30 | Corrodias | and sap >:o |
| 10:50.31 | YammYgirlcoding | with cat I kill nonstop around 6 mobs. with rogue, maybe 3 |
| 10:50.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm definitely not getting into that arguement tonight, comparing cat druids and rogues |
| 10:50.58 | bleetah | my cat durid craps all over my rogue |
| 10:51.07 | SunTiger | as a rogue, die cat druids die, hybrid should not be outperforming pure classes ever. |
| 10:51.10 | YammYgirlcoding | i'm just telling what i feel :) and the cat is the best of all I have, shaman, rogue, warlock &felguard, nothing beats the cat. |
| 10:51.11 | bleetah | mind you, the durid's 26 and the rogoue's .. like... 4 :P |
| 10:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you play a rogue like a cat druid, yeah, the druid will probably do better, but if you play the rogue like a rogue, he'll do just as well |
| 10:51.45 | YammYgirlcoding | no no.. all chars are beeing leveled at same level. that's why I can compare them. |
| 10:51.46 | SunTiger | my rogue want to do SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER then a druid. |
| 10:51.51 | SunTiger | because he is a HYBRID |
| 10:52.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | so hybrids should be second class citizens |
| 10:52.05 | YammYgirlcoding | i wish the rogue was better than cat, but sadly it sucks bad |
| 10:52.09 | oHaste | Spec 41/20/0 |
| 10:52.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not getting in that arguement tonight but that's pretty much what you're saying |
| 10:52.34 | SunTiger | hybrids get to do mulitple things |
| 10:52.38 | sylvanaar | hybrid=not good at anything= "get a *" instead |
| 10:52.46 | SunTiger | i get to do one thing, i'd like to be better at it then the hybrid. |
| 10:52.54 | Corrodias | hybrids get to do multiple things if they spec for it |
| 10:52.54 | YammYgirlcoding | that 'was' the concept of hybrid :) |
| 10:52.58 | bleetah | it *should* be about the spec, gear and player skills, not just 'pure' and 'hybrid'. |
| 10:53.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | roll a druid SunTiger, get him to 70 |
| 10:53.05 | Corrodias | i can't heal all that well, and my magical damage is shit |
| 10:53.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and you'll see why we're fine |
| 10:53.15 | bleetah | purl, comfort Mr_Rabies2 |
| 10:53.20 | purl | There, there, Mr_Rabies2. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 10:53.40 | YammYgirlcoding | so.. back to addon tricky question :) |
| 10:53.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you just want to bitch and moan about it then go for it like everyone else that's ignorant about class mechanics |
| 10:54.29 | YammYgirlcoding | so... how can I parse a recipe's description to grab the level of the item crafted ? |
| 10:54.32 | sylvanaar | yeah, a feral spec cant heal well, resto cant kill ANYTHING, balance can do both but never has the mana for either |
| 10:55.05 | YammYgirlcoding | balance sux. mana sink! |
| 10:55.21 | SunTiger | sylvanaar, guess what a rogue can do, damage , damage and .... damage |
| 10:55.25 | SunTiger | we don't get to pick. |
| 10:55.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and stuns |
| 10:55.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | and sap and poisons |
| 10:55.45 | SunTiger | guess what, none of those are something you spec into |
| 10:56.04 | Corrodias | none of those are something we CAN spec into |
| 10:56.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | roll a druid SunTiger, get him to 70 |
| 10:56.21 | Corrodias | do you know what it's like to see one teammate sapped then be stunlocked to death? |
| 10:56.26 | Corrodias | that doesn't happen against druids. |
| 10:56.55 | Corrodias | unless you have more than one on a single person, or they get quite lucky with clearcasting procs & crits |
| 10:56.56 | SunTiger | a druid doesn't die within a stunlock |
| 10:56.56 | Arrowmaster | rogues can too spec into poisons |
| 10:57.07 | SunTiger | unless its a resto with cloth gear. |
| 10:57.13 | Corrodias | sure we do, i've done it many a time |
| 10:57.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | dude |
| 10:57.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've killed paladins in a stunlock on my friend's rogue |
| 10:57.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | plenty of times |
| 10:57.34 | Corrodias | well, paladins |
| 10:57.44 | Corrodias | they're just silly little guys who hearth |
| 10:57.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i killed a paladin in a druid "stunlock" which is no replacement for a rogue stunlock by any means |
| 10:58.02 | wereHamster | did anyone get the armory working under linux/firefox? |
| 10:58.08 | sylvanaar | and lets not mention "cloak of skill" |
| 10:58.22 | Corrodias | wereHamster: linux or firefox /or/ linux and firefox? |
| 10:58.28 | YammYgirlcoding | i think the only one who can escape a stunlock is another rogue, blind, run, sprint, vanish =) others have no chance |
| 10:58.33 | wereHamster | linux and firefox |
| 10:58.38 | sylvanaar | trinket out |
| 10:58.43 | sylvanaar | thats it |
| 10:58.48 | Corrodias | i keep my insignia of the horde for pvp, definitely |
| 10:58.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i had kidney shot and cheap shot on my druid, i'd be a beast |
| 10:58.56 | wereHamster | don't even know if teh other linux browsers support flash |
| 10:58.56 | wobin | how does one get rid of the FPS indicator? |
| 10:58.57 | SunTiger | YammYgirlcoding, ever heard of ... blink. |
| 10:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | more than just literally |
| 10:59.05 | wobin | I can't remember what I did to activate i t=P |
| 10:59.12 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm there is the blink, but not everyone have it ;) |
| 10:59.13 | Corrodias | we do have a kidney shot, don't we? isn't that what Maim is like? |
| 10:59.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | no corr |
| 10:59.21 | bleetah | wereHamster: largely, although I couldn't be 100% whether the bits that didn't work were due to armory being in beta, privoxy or something else. I was gunna leave it until it went live then compare to FF in Vmware |
| 10:59.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it breaks on direct damage |
| 10:59.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | kidney shot doesn't |
| 10:59.31 | SunTiger | don't say anyone but rogues if an entire class can. |
| 10:59.41 | Corrodias | ooh. it's more of a gouge that requires combo points, then. |
| 10:59.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 10:59.54 | bleetah | oh, well, yeah |
| 10:59.59 | bleetah | the search box don't accept input |
| 11:00.08 | bleetah | I call that a big bug |
| 11:00.09 | YammYgirlcoding | bleetah try tab |
| 11:00.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and cheap shot gives rogues 2 combo points |
| 11:00.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | wheras pounce is one for us |
| 11:00.40 | wereHamster | bleetah, which flash plugin do you use? original adobe or some opensource? |
| 11:00.44 | Corrodias | but we get to look like cats |
| 11:00.54 | sylvanaar | plus no weapon procs or consumable use |
| 11:00.55 | bleetah | YammYgirlcoding: doesn't work for multiple reasons |
| 11:00.58 | Corrodias | that's why rogues are jealous. they always wanted to be kitties. |
| 11:01.06 | YammYgirlcoding | Bleetah try another browser |
| 11:01.06 | Corrodias | meow :3 |
| 11:01.14 | wereHamster | I'm using the abobe and nspluginwrapper (because of my amd64 FF) |
| 11:01.17 | sylvanaar | we cant even eat in feral form |
| 11:01.18 | bleetah | wereHamster: Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31 |
| 11:01.27 | bleetah | YammYgirlcoding: why??!!! the bug report's against FF and Linux |
| 11:01.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | nightelves get to look like cats, taurens look like some kind of crime against nature |
| 11:01.39 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 11:01.44 | YammYgirlcoding | bleetah but test somewhere else just to see if works :) |
| 11:02.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | another reason i won't reroll tauren |
| 11:02.08 | Corrodias | we're a crossbreed of wyvern, lion, and cow |
| 11:02.10 | bleetah | YammYgirlcoding: (09:59:21 PM) bleetah: wereHamster: largely, although I couldn't be 100% whether the bits that didn't work were due to armory being in beta, privoxy or something else. I was gunna leave it until it went live then compare to FF in Vmware |
| 11:02.12 | YammYgirlcoding | gnome is an ecological disaster :) |
| 11:02.15 | sylvanaar | talk to npc's but cant eat |
| 11:02.39 | Corrodias | being able to talk to NPCs in shapes is so luxurious compared to before |
| 11:02.44 | YammYgirlcoding | but guys.... any coder could help me a little bit ? :) |
| 11:03.01 | wereHamster | I just tried 32bit FF and it won't work either :( |
| 11:03.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than someone mistaking me for a furry and taurens looking horrible in druid gear |
| 11:03.01 | sylvanaar | grabbing the flag |
| 11:03.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | is the "cat" form |
| 11:03.09 | YammYgirlcoding | I liked before - we could loot as cats. now can't anymore :( |
| 11:03.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | still can't open chests in forms |
| 11:03.22 | Corrodias | i feel like i'm driving a Lexus-cat because i don't have to get out to talk to the guy in the nice suit with cool items for sale |
| 11:03.24 | sylvanaar | or mine |
| 11:03.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | we could at release but they nerfed it a while ago |
| 11:03.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | :/ |
| 11:03.35 | sylvanaar | but you can herb and skin |
| 11:03.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with shadowform |
| 11:03.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | then they gave shadowform the ability to do all that stuff again |
| 11:03.48 | Corrodias | skinning in the air! yay |
| 11:03.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and forgot us |
| 11:03.52 | bleetah | wereHamster: just checked the adobe site, r31 is the 'latest' :/ |
| 11:04.00 | sylvanaar | yeah vulture form |
| 11:04.00 | wereHamster | I have r31, too |
| 11:04.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | same thing with mind soothe/soothe animal |
| 11:04.04 | Corrodias | well, i suppose cats might have trouble manipulating a treature chest |
| 11:04.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | pfft |
| 11:04.14 | bleetah | wereHamster: I might try some opensource foo tomorrow |
| 11:04.21 | Corrodias | pfft to you |
| 11:04.22 | bleetah | but I doubt it'll improve the situation |
| 11:04.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | not cats with the knowledge of thousands of years, coor |
| 11:04.31 | YammYgirlcoding | guys guys. does Slartie, from enhanced tradeskill hangs around here? |
| 11:04.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr* |
| 11:05.05 | sylvanaar | need play dead that they gave to hunters |
| 11:05.06 | wobin | Damn those opposible thumbs |
| 11:05.06 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm trying to edit his code. Someone could help a little bit? :) |
| 11:05.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they gave reincarnation to shamans, sylv |
| 11:05.21 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think you could pick herbs in flight form |
| 11:05.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | our resses were swapped out |
| 11:05.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | we had the self res and normal res, they had the combat res |
| 11:06.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | which really doesn't make much sense since one of the classes shamans are based on have reincarnation in wc3 |
| 11:06.13 | Corrodias | you mean druids? |
| 11:06.26 | Corrodias | or are you saying it didn't make sense for it to be like that before? |
| 11:06.43 | bleetah | wereHamster: meh, I'm gunna send a bug report ;) |
| 11:06.49 | sylvanaar | druids need a "spirit healer" type rez |
| 11:06.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it didn't make sense before really, corr |
| 11:07.00 | Corrodias | i still have issues with this name "Aidonal" |
| 11:07.07 | sylvanaar | ooc group rez |
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| 11:07.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet the first HIV medicine syrup will be called Aidonal |
| 11:07.50 | YammYgirlcoding | Thorarin save me!! |
| 11:08.02 | sylvanaar | 10 min cd |
| 11:08.13 | Corrodias | >_< |
| 11:08.34 | wereHamster | bleetah, to who? blizzard, adobe or mozilla? |
| 11:09.00 | bleetah | wereHamster: blizz at this stage |
| 11:09.18 | bleetah | wereHamster: *IF* I get off my ass to investigate further tomorrow.. maybe elsewhere ;) |
| 11:09.44 | bleetah | maybe there's some platform specific code in the flash to stop bots or something... *shrug* |
| 11:09.47 | wereHamster | The only other flash plugin I know is gnash.. |
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| 11:10.29 | wereHamster | hm.. I also could try FF under wine :-/ |
| 11:10.48 | bleetah | mind you, firebug's showing 22 errors on the page |
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| 11:11.31 | bleetah | and if you switch UA string to IE6, the thing hangs |
| 11:12.33 | bleetah | s/thing/site/ |
| 11:12.44 | sylvanaar | i dont know if i should level my old lock or shadow priest next, which is more fun at 70 |
| 11:12.45 | bleetah | time for bed, tho.. nn all |
| 11:13.48 | wereHamster | bleetah, works with FF under wine |
| 11:15.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | a lone lock can shutdown an entire lowbie town at 70 :O |
| 11:15.33 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 11:15.45 | Arrowmaster | i did that at ratchet |
| 11:16.44 | sylvanaar | well, since warlocks primary attribute is stam, and there is so much more stam available, im sorta expecting a big nerf soon |
| 11:17.02 | Arrowmaster | warlock primary attribute is not stam, its spell damage |
| 11:17.06 | sylvanaar | wrong |
| 11:17.44 | sylvanaar | you are thinking of "mage" |
| 11:17.46 | wereHamster | grr.. I hate when websites won't allow me to open links in new tabs.. |
| 11:17.59 | Arrowmaster | no im thinking of 'warlock' |
| 11:18.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | stam's pretty important for locks but i wouldn't consider it a primary attribute after 58 |
| 11:18.39 | Arrowmaster | the warlock with 20k hp and 0 +dmg is useless in a raid |
| 11:18.41 | Shirik | I agree warlock primary attribute is typically regarded a stamina |
| 11:19.00 | Shirik | s/a stamina/as stamina/ |
| 11:19.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | you need a decent balance of it and spelldamage, with some int thrown in so you don't have to kill yourself all the time |
| 11:19.05 | sylvanaar | you need spell damage, but its their primary stat. its the same as +heal and int |
| 11:19.06 | Shirik | well sure |
| 11:19.18 | Shirik | you always need a balance |
| 11:19.33 | Shirik | a hunter with 500 agi and 100 intellect is going to have trouble as well |
| 11:19.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what my hunter's like :p |
| 11:19.45 | Shirik | er, maybe closer to 50 int but |
| 11:19.46 | Shirik | meh |
| 11:19.58 | Shirik | MM or BM? |
| 11:20.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't have too many problems with my shoddy mana pool |
| 11:20.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been both, bm atm |
| 11:20.12 | Arrowmaster | i see 'primary stats' as stats that help the class do their job better, warlock job is doing damage |
| 11:20.15 | Shirik | I find intellect to be much more important for MM |
| 11:20.27 | Shirik | more important than BM at least |
| 11:20.35 | sylvanaar | you can have 1000000+dmg and no mana to cast |
| 11:20.51 | Shirik | with that kind of +damage |
| 11:20.53 | Shirik | you don't need to cast |
| 11:20.57 | Shirik | you blow on them and they fall down |
| 11:20.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah but without any spell damage, you're pretty much a paladin with cloth and fear |
| 11:20.58 | Arrowmaster | im affliction, what do i care about mana pool |
| 11:21.05 | Shirik | ha! |
| 11:21.12 | Shirik | A paladin with cloth and fear |
| 11:21.13 | Shirik | I like that |
| 11:21.22 | sylvanaar | your mana pool is your HP |
| 11:21.36 | Arrowmaster | my mana pool is my imps spirit regen |
| 11:21.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | as affliction your mana pool is your imp's mana pool :p |
| 11:22.10 | sylvanaar | thats just from dark pact and that mana runs out |
| 11:22.46 | Arrowmaster | which i do run dry very very often and have to life tap, but the life taping is so much less than when i didnt have dark pact that it doesnt matter |
| 11:22.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79825206&sid=1 |
| 11:22.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | epic troll |
| 11:25.31 | sylvanaar | yeah, i thing most likely locks are going to lose demonic embrace or its going to be made like that destruction talent that noone takes |
| 11:26.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll make fel stamina do 3% more stam i hope |
| 11:26.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of 3% more hp |
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| 11:31.37 | Corrodias | hey, the blizzard name generator isn't half bad |
| 11:31.53 | Corrodias | it's already come up with more decent names than i could |
| 11:32.31 | Corrodias | damn, that is a good troll. i have rarely seen one at work. |
| 11:32.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i use that thing for a laugh every now and then |
| 11:32.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | the namegen |
| 11:32.50 | Corrodias | hey, it came up with some gems, here |
| 11:32.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got "roxxor" once |
| 11:33.04 | Corrodias | Solumin, Avis, Lash... |
| 11:38.17 | sylvanaar | its funny, because i played a warlock for so long - and they were gods of nothing - people really only wanted them for soulstone |
| 11:38.48 | wereHamster | and healthstones :P |
| 11:39.18 | sylvanaar | yeah, occasionally |
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| 11:40.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've always preferred locks over mages except when aoe is required |
| 11:40.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | they can take a lickin and keep on ticking |
| 11:40.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of dropping in 2 seconds after they pull aggro every other fight like mages |
| 11:45.54 | Shirik | right, so... 7am |
| 11:45.55 | Shirik | time for bed |
| 11:45.56 | Shirik | night |
| 11:50.08 | Corrodias | how about "Altus" |
| 11:50.23 | Corrodias | he's an alt, and it's a name. omg. |
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| 12:07.26 | Xaviussha | Anyone awake? |
| 12:07.32 | Corrodias | i |
| 12:07.38 | Xaviussha | Got a question. |
| 12:08.14 | Xaviussha | I've been searching my ass off for Nexus Crystals for the past few days, I've disenchanted every single purple I've seen and I still haven't gotten one. Any ideas? |
| 12:08.17 | Corrodias | i have yet another name for my hunter. |
| 12:08.47 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware, nexus crystals only came from disenchanting epic items from high-end instances from the old world |
| 12:08.56 | ZealotOnAStick | has to be 51-60 purples |
| 12:09.17 | Xaviussha | I've been disenchanting lvl 51-60 purples for a few days now, even got so desperate as to buy lvl 60 warsong items |
| 12:09.23 | [dRaCo] | Get some of the AH... they sell for like 4g each here |
| 12:09.39 | Xaviussha | Well no one sells on AH around here. |
| 12:10.27 | Xaviussha | I have been to BRS, Stratholme, DM and all these instances looking for them and I still can't find... |
| 12:11.09 | Corrodias | try more the likes of ZG, BWL |
| 12:11.12 | [dRaCo] | Searching for Epics there doesnt make much sense |
| 12:11.23 | [dRaCo] | Yeah, ZG would be the easiest way, imo |
| 12:11.30 | Xaviussha | Well I can't tank those alone |
| 12:11.43 | Xaviussha | and not a whole lotta people are on most of the time I'm around |
| 12:12.40 | Corrodias | you... |
| 12:12.45 | Corrodias | might want to consider changing realms, buddy |
| 12:13.03 | Corrodias | if nobody uses the AH and hardly anyone is on when you play, that is |
| 12:13.11 | Xaviussha | Then I'll lose my T3 set... |
| 12:14.41 | Corrodias | character transfers don't make you lose items... |
| 12:14.53 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware |
| 12:15.03 | Xaviussha | well it's a little more than that... send me a PM and I'll explain |
| 12:19.31 | Xaviussha | How do I register? |
| 12:20.02 | Corrodias | /ns help register, i suppose |
| 12:20.28 | Xaviussha | register |
| 12:20.38 | Corrodias | the command would then be /ns register <password> |
| 12:21.04 | Xaviussha | done |
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| 13:11.58 | BioNiT | guys... any 1 know where can i get gatherbook with outland herbs ? |
| 13:12.03 | BioNiT | pls |
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| 13:13.55 | Corrodias | i'm not familiar with "gatherbook" |
| 13:25.19 | sysrage | asdf |
| 13:28.37 | zenzelezz | ... |
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| 13:37.23 | YammYgirlcoding | someone ? |
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| 14:47.09 | Corrodias | i wonder if Empowered Touch is multiplicatively stacked with Lunar Guidance or if it just applies to the base +healing from items |
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| 15:10.36 | leethal | how long can one be afk before the server drops ya? |
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| 15:13.32 | leethal | making a little "you have been afk this long" addon, and it shows how many hours you've been afk. But afaik you'll get dropped by the server - is it before or after an hour? |
| 15:13.41 | leethal | if it is before, no point having it to count the hours |
| 15:14.42 | Elkano | I think <1h until char screen and then after a while complete dc |
| 15:14.50 | nevcairiel | 30 mins till char screen |
| 15:14.56 | nevcairiel | and 30 more for full disc |
| 15:15.30 | leethal | yay, thanks |
| 15:16.00 | amro`afk | 10 min flags you as afk, then as nevcairiel said |
| 15:19.52 | nevcairiel | wasnt afk 5 mins? |
| 15:19.56 | nevcairiel | not sure tho. |
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| 15:22.44 | JoshBorke | it's not 5 minute |
| 15:24.34 | zenzelezz | I always thought it was 5, but I'm usually not around when it happens :-p |
| 15:25.06 | amro`afk | it seems more than 5, and I remember reading somewhere that its 10 |
| 15:25.24 | zenzelezz | if log-out is 30, 10 would make more sense than 5 for AFK |
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| 15:39.48 | leethal | if anyone feel like telling me how silly this is, please do http://wow-afktell.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ |
| 15:39.54 | leethal | <== lua noob |
| 15:41.50 | wereHamster | self.start_time_hour, self.start_time_minute, self.end_time = 0 |
| 15:42.20 | wereHamster | will initialize only self.start_time_hour |
| 15:43.46 | leethal | aha |
| 15:44.50 | leethal | frankly I don't need to initialize it at all |
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| 16:05.02 | HolySheepy | Hi ^^ |
| 16:06.04 | JoshBorke | hi |
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| 17:05.14 | sylvanaar | um fyi logout is done semi-randomly |
| 17:06.37 | sylvanaar | they have anti-afk countertrickery |
| 17:08.26 | nevcairiel | maybe on US, on EU its pretty much always a 30min timer |
| 17:08.29 | sylvanaar | i know this because i have to test a chat mod, and one toon is always afk for hours |
| 17:08.50 | sylvanaar | it is logged out without warning |
| 17:09.11 | foxlit | Meh, you get a system message along with a "cancel logout" dialog |
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| 17:09.48 | sylvanaar | only the first couple times |
| 17:10.22 | sylvanaar | just keep logging back in and doing nothing |
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| 17:11.17 | sylvanaar | you might get to meet the afk turtle, or the gm who can grey out the cancel button |
| 17:12.56 | pastamancer | I still haven't met the afk turtle! |
| 17:12.58 | sylvanaar | unless theres a hunter named "imatarget" with a pet "targetme" on every server by coincidence |
| 17:14.12 | sylvanaar | targetme is the afk turtle |
| 17:14.23 | sylvanaar | bot detector |
| 17:14.57 | oKirkburn|afk | What's this? |
| 17:15.13 | oKirkburn|afk | Are you being serious? |
| 17:15.42 | sylvanaar | yes, you have to be in one spot for a long time |
| 17:16.14 | oKirkburn|afk | Literally standstill, or just moving very little? |
| 17:17.05 | sylvanaar | well, usually it'd be standing still |
| 17:17.14 | sylvanaar | but that was for me |
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| 17:18.17 | oKirkburn|afk | I wanna meet the afk turtle :P |
| 17:18.24 | sylvanaar | easy place to find it, is where you fish the deviates |
| 17:18.31 | oKirkburn|afk | I've got my (non?)plans for tonight then :) |
| 17:19.05 | sylvanaar | or at least it was |
| 17:19.56 | amro`afk | and what does it do? |
| 17:20.00 | sylvanaar | after the turtle you get the "friendly passerby" |
| 17:20.23 | sylvanaar | it doesnt do anything just walks in front of you |
| 17:20.52 | sylvanaar | then goes away |
| 17:21.16 | amro`afk | how does it check if you're afk? |
| 17:21.33 | sylvanaar | after the turtle you get the "friendly passerby" |
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| 17:54.48 | Cairenn | purl, hug everyone |
| 17:54.54 | purl | ACTION hugs everyone |
| 17:54.54 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 17:54.54 | Thunder_Child | morning Cairenn |
| 17:54.54 | zenzelezz | what's the occasion? |
| 17:54.55 | Cairenn | purl, wake up |
| 17:54.56 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 17:54.56 | Cairenn | no occasion |
| 17:54.57 | Thunder_Child | carefull, purl may smack back |
| 17:55.10 | Cairenn | I can take purl, he's a big wimp |
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| 17:55.31 | Thunder_Child | hardly |
| 17:58.47 | zenzelezz | so it's a he now? |
| 18:01.03 | Cairenn | meh, whatever |
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| 18:02.22 | Thunder_Child | purl is whatever you want it to be |
| 18:03.34 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | "you can go ahead and use them for whatever you use them for" - Kaso |
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| 18:05.54 | wereHamster | rofl.. "Resources for learning CSS:" followed by a link to "Microsoft MSDN" |
| 18:06.03 | wereHamster | on wowwiki |
| 18:06.43 | cogwheel | what's the most correct way to check if UnitHealth is returning the actual value instead of a percentage? (and don't say UnitMaxHealth() == 100, 'cause that's not going to be correct 100% of the time :P ) |
| 18:06.44 | Kirkburn | Not I! |
| 18:06.49 | foxlit | redundant, should be MSDN |
| 18:07.00 | Kirkburn | lol, true |
| 18:07.13 | foxlit | Check if you're supposed to know? |
| 18:07.16 | foxlit | UnitInRaid(unit) |
| 18:07.22 | Kirkburn | wereHamster, where? |
| 18:07.38 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: I haven't bothered with something like that, but I would guess UnitMaxHealth() ~= 100 would mean it's not a percentage |
| 18:07.48 | foxlit | pr UnitIsUnit("pet", unit) or UnitIsUnit("player", unit) |
| 18:07.56 | foxlit | s/pr/or/ |
| 18:08.20 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: didn't read my whole question did you? :P |
| 18:08.24 | zenzelezz | never do |
| 18:08.38 | zenzelezz | I scan for words I find interesting |
| 18:08.54 | zenzelezz | to hell with the rest of the sentences! |
| 18:09.04 | cogwheel | like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis? |
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| 18:10.02 | zenzelezz | well, I did read the UnitMaxHealth part of your sentence if that's what you're referring to, but I'm unaware of why using that would not be accurate |
| 18:10.10 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 18:10.12 | purl | ACTION jumps into JoshBorke's lap and huggles and *hugs* JoshBorke |
| 18:10.18 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 18:10.20 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 18:10.20 | cogwheel | because someone could conceivably have a max health of 100 |
| 18:10.25 | cogwheel | and i don't want to display it as a percentage |
| 18:10.27 | JoshBorke | purl, massage Cairenn |
| 18:10.28 | purl | ACTION gives Cairenn a terribly relaxing full-body massage that puts Cairenn to sleep |
| 18:10.42 | Cairenn | oh god, don't I just wish |
| 18:10.57 | Thunder_Child | you can always go get on |
| 18:10.59 | Thunder_Child | e |
| 18:11.17 | JoshBorke | you come down here and 'ill take care of you Cairenn ;-) |
| 18:11.25 | Thunder_Child | tbh i wasnt thinking of zenzelezz when i said than |
| 18:11.28 | Thunder_Child | that* |
| 18:11.32 | wereHamster | Kirkburn, http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Styling#Resources |
| 18:11.34 | Thunder_Child | or JoshBorke |
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| 20:48.23 | Corrodias | "afk turtle"? "friendly passerby"? |
| 20:48.30 | Corrodias | what silliness is this? |
| 20:48.37 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:49.30 | leethal | ^ |
| 20:49.33 | leethal | I read it too |
| 20:49.38 | leethal | sounds naughty |
| 20:50.10 | Corrodias | sylvanaar was talking about a supposed "afk turtle" that appears if you idle too long near a barrens pond, and keep logging in after you get disconnected for idling |
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| 20:52.30 | Shirik | I think they're crazy |
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| 20:57.45 | Xenok | it says i am unable to join wowi-lounge yet i am right here O.o |
| 20:58.53 | Xenok | shirik: did you find out what was wrong with saying notebox was nil last night? |
| 20:59.05 | Elkano | no you aren't, this is not the channel you are looking for... |
| 20:59.13 | Xenok | hehe |
| 21:02.40 | Xenok | shirik you there? |
| 21:02.45 | Xenok | `lart shirik |
| 21:02.48 | Xenok | oops |
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| 21:03.19 | Tem | <3 people who name draenei with russian names |
| 21:03.26 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:03.37 | Tem | I just saw "Ivan" run by |
| 21:03.59 | Tem | I suppose I should try to get "Stalin" |
| 21:04.08 | Xenok | LOL |
| 21:04.30 | Tem | hah! |
| 21:04.35 | zenzelezz | my linux box is called Stalin |
| 21:04.54 | Xenok | <3 people who name their toons with è ê etc |
| 21:05.02 | Tem | I just got "Marx" |
| 21:05.08 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:05.29 | Tem | pitty he was german |
| 21:05.46 | Xenok | O.o |
| 21:06.01 | Corrodias | now, now |
| 21:06.06 | Corrodias | don't make characters you're not going to play... |
| 21:06.19 | Xenok | ~lart corrodias |
| 21:06.52 | Xenok | purl, kill corrodias |
| 21:07.10 | Xenok | purl, your slow |
| 21:07.56 | bleetah | I name my machines after SF characters and authors.. my workstation is named for Phil K Dick (root@dick was too good an opportunity to miss) |
| 21:08.08 | Xenok | haha |
| 21:08.37 | Xenok | ~lart purl |
| 21:08.39 | Xenok | GAH |
| 21:08.51 | Xenok | hey im not a computer |
| 21:09.46 | Xenok | why cant you lart purl?! |
| 21:10.29 | Xenok | would say something lik 9* purl commits suicide |
| 21:12.09 | Xenok | wtf? it says notebox is nil yet i have it right here: http://wowi.pastey.net/7721 |
| 21:13.47 | Xenok | shirik you there? |
| 21:15.21 | amro`afk | could you specify which line? |
| 21:15.46 | Xenok | its highlighted |
| 21:15.48 | wereHamster | probably the one that is highlighted :P |
| 21:16.06 | amro`afk | i spoke too early since pastey was taking a while to load ={ |
| 21:16.10 | amro`afk | =P* |
| 21:16.11 | Xenok | oh ok |
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| 21:17.09 | amro`afk | what does the error say exactly? |
| 21:18.24 | Xenok | umm i was just looking at it hold on |
| 21:18.52 | Xenok | attempt to call global 'notebox' (a nil value) |
| 21:19.21 | Corrodias | actually |
| 21:19.28 | Xenok | O.o |
| 21:19.46 | Corrodias | yeah, maybe you're reading it right |
| 21:19.57 | Corrodias | i was just thinking, it could be returning nil |
| 21:20.12 | Xenok | it shouldn't be |
| 21:21.04 | amro`afk | why are you declaring notesa twice? |
| 21:21.14 | Xenok | I am? |
| 21:21.32 | amro`afk | also, the notebox functions seems useless- why not call noteeditbar:GetText() directly? |
| 21:21.43 | amro`afk | function* |
| 21:21.49 | Xenok | because its supposed to save into a var |
| 21:22.45 | Tokter | maybe you are missing some ends somewhere above that code |
| 21:22.49 | Corrodias | you can't save the value of a function as a variable |
| 21:22.55 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware |
| 21:23.11 | Corrodias | you save a global variable itself |
| 21:23.22 | Xenok | ill pasty the rest of my code to show you your wrong about value of a function :P |
| 21:23.25 | amro`afk | i think he means he wants notesa to be saved |
| 21:23.39 | Corrodias | oh |
| 21:23.45 | amro`afk | then just do notesa = noteeditbar:GetText() and put notesa in your SavedVariables line |
| 21:24.02 | Xenok | no need for return? |
| 21:24.03 | bleetah | oO Mr_Rabies2 got glined! |
| 21:24.13 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 21:24.18 | bleetah | gah |
| 21:24.26 | bleetah | fool me, i fool you.. fool you... er.. |
| 21:24.29 | bleetah | er.. |
| 21:24.32 | bleetah | i go make coffee |
| 21:24.33 | bleetah | :P |
| 21:24.52 | Mr_Rabies | fool me never get fooled again |
| 21:25.13 | Xenok | omg lol |
| 21:25.16 | Xenok | didn't see that |
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| 21:27.16 | Xenok | corrodias: lines 1-19 of http://wowi.pastey.net/7723 work so why shoudn't the rest? :P |
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| 21:28.47 | Xenok | still nil |
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| 21:31.48 | Tokter | when do you get that error, right after you reload your ui? |
| 21:32.04 | Xenok | no once I open the frame that calls notebox() |
| 21:32.28 | amro`afk | drop local notebox |
| 21:32.29 | Xenok | well the frame that has the button that calls notebox() |
| 21:33.00 | Tokter | nothing of what you pasted calls notebox() |
| 21:33.09 | Xenok | in my xml |
| 21:33.19 | amro`afk | well you have notebox as local |
| 21:33.22 | Shirik | that's your problem |
| 21:33.26 | Xenok | oh duh |
| 21:33.28 | Xenok | :P |
| 21:33.34 | Xenok | im so dumb |
| 21:33.49 | amro`afk | nah, you're just inexperienced with lua scopes |
| 21:34.13 | Xenok | ummm |
| 21:34.20 | Xenok | hold on |
| 21:34.47 | Mr_Rabies | SHOW ME POTATO SALAD! |
| 21:35.02 | Xenok | its doing line 32 of http://wowi.pastey.net/7723 |
| 21:35.12 | amro`afk | its doing? |
| 21:35.18 | Xenok | just look |
| 21:36.04 | Xenok | not erroring but it prints |
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| 21:36.36 | amro`afk | ok |
| 21:36.44 | Xenok | wait. didn't rabies2 get glined? |
| 21:36.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | no |
| 21:36.55 | Xenok | ummm ok |
| 21:36.57 | amro`afk | that should mean yummy shoudl appear in the editbox |
| 21:37.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was a quit message :p |
| 21:37.05 | Xenok | darn you |
| 21:37.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | /quit words words words words |
| 21:37.16 | amro`afk | [G:Lined], reason: Nappy Time. |
| 21:37.24 | Xenok | i was fooled |
| 21:37.34 | Xenok | anyway.. amro.. no. |
| 21:37.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a list of like, 35 quit messages that are like 5 years old now |
| 21:37.45 | amro`afk | is the editbox visible? |
| 21:37.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that i'm too lazy to change |
| 21:37.56 | Xenok | yummy appears where the things in the edibox are suppsed to show |
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| 21:38.29 | amro`afk | exactly |
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| 21:38.30 | amro`afk | in "noteedit" |
| 21:38.30 | Xenok | yes |
| 21:38.39 | amro`afk | ok. |
| 21:38.43 | amro`afk | but where's the problem? |
| 21:39.05 | Xenok | dunno.. hte words in the editbox dont show.. it just shows yummy |
| 21:39.38 | amro`afk | yeah, exactly what the code is doing |
| 21:39.44 | Xenok | then... wtf? |
| 21:39.51 | amro`afk | noteedit:SetText("yummy"); |
| 21:40.07 | amro`afk | you're telling it to set the text to yummy |
| 21:40.09 | Xenok | thats if noteditbox = "" |
| 21:40.22 | amro`afk | the condition in the else is unnecessary |
| 21:40.33 | amro`afk | if its not = "", you don't need to check for it again |
| 21:40.45 | Xenok | then . . . uhh |
| 21:41.06 | Xenok | how does it call if ( noteeditbar:GetText() ~= "" ) then |
| 21:41.27 | amro`afk | huh? |
| 21:41.30 | Xenok | bah |
| 21:41.43 | amro`afk | in the first if you're checking if noteeditbar:GetText() == "" |
| 21:41.49 | Xenok | right |
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| 21:41.54 | Xenok | its a condition handler |
| 21:42.01 | Xenok | like thing |
| 21:42.11 | Tokter | remove line 35 & 43 |
| 21:42.27 | amro`afk | iyeah |
| 21:42.50 | amro`afk | since you're in the else clause, the condition in the first if is false. thus you don't need to check for it agian |
| 21:43.14 | Xenok | wtf? 'end' expected (to close 'if' at line 28) near 'else' |
| 21:43.49 | Xenok | let me update pasty |
| 21:44.00 | Xenok | http://wowi.pastey.net/7726 |
| 21:44.17 | Xenok | you told me to getrid of an end did you not |
| 21:44.59 | amro`afk | hold on a sec |
| 21:45.04 | Tokter | ok 36 & 37 habe to go to, your indentation was a bit of |
| 21:45.25 | Xenok | oh ok |
| 21:47.09 | Xenok | still only shows yummy |
| 21:47.12 | Cide | I would say 38 has to go, not 36&37 |
| 21:47.21 | Xenok | make up your minds |
| 21:48.08 | Xenok | cide: end' expected (to close 'if' at line 28) near 'else' |
| 21:48.18 | Cide | oh, nevermind |
| 21:48.20 | Xenok | lol |
| 21:48.56 | amro`afk | hm yeah you had 2 else's there |
| 21:49.24 | Xenok | got rid of one just now.. testing now too |
| 21:49.48 | Xenok | purl, kill me |
| 21:49.52 | purl | !stab xenok |
| 21:50.07 | Xenok | it still showing yummy |
| 21:51.34 | amro`afk | do you see "WHAT AM I DOING HERE" |
| 21:51.40 | Xenok | yes |
| 21:51.43 | amro`afk | click again |
| 21:52.03 | Xenok | click what? :P |
| 21:52.16 | Tokter | do you type something into noteeditbar or what? |
| 21:52.20 | Xenok | yes |
| 21:52.24 | Xenok | I do |
| 21:53.04 | amro`afk | what happens when you click? |
| 21:53.14 | Xenok | click what? |
| 21:53.35 | amro`afk | oh |
| 21:54.04 | Xenok | oh? |
| 21:54.04 | amro`afk | i assumed you had a button. what events are you registered to? |
| 21:54.14 | Xenok | ohhh you coulda said the button |
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| 21:54.23 | Tokter | lol |
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| 21:55.20 | Xenok | I click the button that is registered to notebox() no change |
| 21:58.15 | Xenok | should the notebox be visable to show the text? |
| 21:58.26 | Xenok | that would suck |
| 21:59.27 | Xenok | er.. editbox* |
| 21:59.37 | amro`afk | what do you mean registered to notebox()? |
| 21:59.50 | amro`afk | and how would that suck? how useful is an invisible editbox? |
| 22:00.08 | Xenok | I want to be able to close my edibox and the words would show up :P |
| 22:00.20 | amro`afk | what do you mean, close? |
| 22:00.23 | Xenok | hide |
| 22:00.26 | amro`afk | oh |
| 22:00.30 | amro`afk | how are you hiding it? |
| 22:00.55 | Xenok | name of frame: Bookmarking .. Bookmarking:Hide() |
| 22:01.23 | Xenok | the frame that has the editbox is bookmarking |
| 22:01.42 | amro`afk | ok |
| 22:01.50 | amro`afk | and where's the text supposed to show? |
| 22:01.56 | Xenok | in a seperate frame |
| 22:01.58 | amro`afk | if you hide the frame that has the text you won't be able to see it |
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| 22:02.18 | Xenok | I open the frame with the text... after closign the edit box... and it still says yummy |
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| 22:02.54 | amro`afk | why dont you show them side by side and work that way till you fix your problem? |
| 22:03.04 | Xenok | hmm |
| 22:06.44 | Xenok | I have it so that he frame is always open (the one that shows the text yummy) and then I open the editbox.. type something.. no change... call notebox() .. no change |
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| 22:06.59 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 22:07.17 | Xenok | purl, ding |
| 22:07.19 | purl | i guess ding is dong |
| 22:07.26 | Xenok | ok purl isn't slow |
| 22:07.32 | Xenok | or is purl? |
| 22:08.19 | Xenok | purl, 3+3*3*(5+5)/2 |
| 22:08.20 | purl | 48 |
| 22:08.22 | Xenok | yay |
| 22:09.03 | Xenok | amro`afk: you there? |
| 22:09.30 | amro`afk | yes |
| 22:09.37 | Xenok | what do I do? |
| 22:09.49 | amro`afk | it seems your code depends on an event happening before using :SetText() |
| 22:10.05 | amro`afk | why don't you put your :SetText() in notebox(), which I assume gets called when you click the button |
| 22:10.34 | Xenok | oh maybe its cuz I have the hiding call ... before notebox()? |
| 22:11.22 | Xenok | no |
| 22:12.24 | Xenok | CHA CHING!! it worked |
| 22:12.35 | Xenok | ./dance |
| 22:13.23 | Xenok | s/d/happyd/ |
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| 22:15.40 | Xenok | ty so much amro |
| 22:16.45 | amro`afk | np :) |
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| 22:22.48 | amro`afk | goodnight everyone |
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| 22:32.47 | Nightdew | whats the best damage meter out there? |
| 22:33.16 | leethal | using clsaver to log and parse it |
| 22:33.23 | leethal | using wow web stats or something |
| 22:33.30 | zenzelezz | clsaver? |
| 22:33.50 | leethal | saves combat log with 100 yards range |
| 22:34.18 | leethal | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/4821/clsaver/ |
| 22:34.40 | leethal | and parse it with http://www.lossendil.fr/serendipity/ |
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| 22:35.38 | leethal | if many people from the group/raid saves the logs with clsaver, you'll have 100% accurate stats |
| 22:36.52 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
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| 22:36.57 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 22:37.07 | foxlit | lifebloom |
| 22:38.22 | sylvanaar | lies |
| 22:38.59 | Shirik | purl, hug me |
| 22:39.03 | Shirik | T_T |
| 22:39.54 | sylvanaar | lifebloom - does not benefit from the +heal effects of ToL, can anyone confirm |
| 22:40.04 | oClad|away | .. why woudln't it?? |
| 22:40.19 | foxlit | Can check in a minute |
| 22:40.22 | oClad|away | mye xperiences show it did |
| 22:40.42 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 22:46.58 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 22:47.16 | nevcairiel | only that multiple stacks of lifebloom dont get any +heal |
| 22:47.32 | nevcairiel | first 180, second 240 :P |
| 22:49.20 | cladhaire | yep |
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| 22:58.02 | Kirkburn | omg cladhaire, you gave up too! :P |
| 22:58.11 | cladhaire | hrm? |
| 22:58.38 | Kirkburn | You cast off your oPlagued shackles :P |
| 22:58.49 | cladhaire | lol i must have forgot when i came back from away |
| 22:59.00 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 22:59.03 | Xenok | oPlagued? thats what the oName is? |
| 23:01.22 | Kirkburn | might be |
| 23:01.26 | Xenok | orly |
| 23:02.01 | Kirkburn | yamaibe |
| 23:02.26 | Xenok | nowai |
| 23:02.59 | bleetah | mount -o ro /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs |
| 23:03.02 | bleetah | oops, wrong window |
| 23:06.45 | [dRaCo] | indeed. |
| 23:07.22 | Shirik | ntfs on linux? |
| 23:07.29 | bleetah | aye |
| 23:07.37 | bleetah | was mounting the partition to check some files |
| 23:07.40 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:07.42 | Shirik | been there |
| 23:08.41 | bleetah | needless to say, the file is long deleted :/ |
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| 23:20.03 | Xenok\busy | if I was to save the location on map and then save it as a var.. I wouldn't use posX, posY = GetPlayerMapPosition("player"); would I? |
| 23:20.19 | Shirik | why not? |
| 23:20.42 | Xenok\busy | becaus I thought that was current location. I want to save a past location |
| 23:20.48 | Xenok\busy | well show a past location |
| 23:21.39 | Shirik | you want to save a past location then you need to save it when it happens |
| 23:21.46 | Shirik | you can't say "go back 30 seconds and figure out where I was" |
| 23:21.50 | Xenok\busy | no i know |
| 23:22.03 | Xenok\busy | save it while im there.. then change coords at it will stay as the one I save |
| 23:22.36 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:22.52 | Xenok\busy | hmm |
| 23:27.37 | Thunder_Child | has anyone played with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28441 ? |
| 23:28.40 | Xenok\busy | wow |
| 23:29.33 | Thunder_Child | that + mace spec seems an interesting combo |
| 23:30.04 | Xenok\busy | yes |
| 23:30.21 | Xenok\busy | thats just crazy |
| 23:30.49 | leethal | I got the 1h swordsmith thingie, it rocks |
| 23:31.10 | Xenok\busy | the one with all the motes to make? |
| 23:31.16 | Xenok\busy | forget its name |
| 23:31.32 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28427 ? |
| 23:31.52 | Thunder_Child | or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28426 |
| 23:32.12 | Thunder_Child | there are quite a few that require master swordsmith |
| 23:32.15 | Xenok\busy | it requires 40 primal somethings |
| 23:33.00 | Xenok\busy | oh no 20 |
| 23:33.09 | Xenok\busy | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28425 is what im thinking |
| 23:33.35 | Xenok\busy | not as good as the others though |
| 23:40.41 | Thunder_Child | found a better mace http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28442 |
| 23:40.42 | Thunder_Child | yea, it's the next in line |
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| 23:40.44 | Xenok\busy | sick |
| 23:40.44 | bleetah | random mildly impressive picture -> http://www.fukung.net/v/887/make-tesla.jpg |
| 23:40.45 | Xenok\busy | hehe |
| 23:40.49 | WobWork | bleetah, you have no idea =) |
| 23:40.50 | WobWork | You should see my wallpaper... |
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| 23:40.52 | WobWork | http://tesladownunder.com/TeslaRotBreakoutTopView1000.jpg |
| 23:40.52 | WobWork | have a look at the base url, it's pretty impressive =) |
| 23:40.52 | bleetah | :) will do |
| 23:42.44 | WobWork | ps |
| 23:42.45 | WobWork | http://tesladownunder.com/Tesladownunder's%20Car%20Theft%20Pevention%201000.jpg |
| 23:42.53 | WobWork | how's that for a car protection system |
| 23:43.13 | WobWork | aint nobody gonna carjack that baby |
| 23:43.57 | WobWork | also, in other news |
| 23:44.13 | WobWork | RIP Leeroy Jenkins. He's run his last UBRS... http://jazztimes.com/columns_and_features/news/detail.cfm?article=11037 |
| 23:45.44 | bleetah | "Perhaps best known for his work in the underrated Revolutionary Ensemble " 'sif |
| 23:46.24 | bleetah | tho it's leroy, not leeroy ;) |
| 23:48.16 | Xenok\busy | when he calls it out its "leeroy" "leeroy jeeenkiins" |
| 23:49.07 | bleetah | true |
| 23:49.51 | Xenok\busy | my dad called me Leroy Xeek one time.. when we where doing Zul'Furuk XD my toons name is Xeekkcnook |
| 23:50.21 | Xenok\busy | Xenok is just shorter |
| 23:54.00 | Xenok\busy | is there a widget that can detect what zone your in? |
| 23:55.25 | cladhaire | that's not what widgets do. |
| 23:55.32 | cladhaire | register for the events, and use the API |
| 23:55.44 | Xenok\busy | er.. i Mean .. is there a way to detect what zone your in |
| 23:57.09 | leethal | google for zone in the api and you'll prolly find something |
| 23:57.16 | cladhaire | yes, there's an API for it. |
| 23:57.19 | Xenok\busy | where can I find it? |
| 23:57.26 | cladhaire | wowwiki |
| 23:57.32 | cladhaire | that's where everything is. |
| 23:57.37 | Xenok\busy | umm ok |
| 23:57.40 | Xenok\busy | >,> |
| 23:58.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.146) |
| 23:58.59 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetZoneText |
| 23:59.55 | Xenok\busy | LOL just found it |
