| 00:01.20 | JoshBorke | purl, poke Cairenn|afk |
| 00:01.22 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn|afk, pokes Cairenn|afk repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 00:01.24 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 00:03.06 | SniperFodder | >_> |
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| 00:13.56 | SniperFodder | Lama! |
| 00:17.37 | Cairenn|afk | magnet |
| 00:18.52 | Tain | Lama magnet? |
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| 00:19.05 | JoshBorke | lama magnet = tain? |
| 00:25.15 | WobWork | Lamagnet? |
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| 00:34.28 | Tain | Life experience tells me yes. |
| 00:36.13 | sysrage | anybody awake that uses deadly boss mods? |
| 00:48.29 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 00:48.57 | JoshBorke | alert the press! something funny happened! |
| 00:49.48 | SniperFodder | lol, what? |
| 00:49.58 | JoshBorke | ask Cairenn|afk, she laughed |
| 00:50.14 | Cairenn|afk | heh, don't worry about it guys |
| 00:50.28 | JoshBorke | i missed it too |
| 00:51.33 | JoshBorke | Shadowed: ping |
| 00:52.43 | Shadowed | Josh_Borke: pong |
| 00:53.04 | JoshBorke | Shadowed: it would be possible to SetPoint a message frame to the over head status bars, right? |
| 00:53.04 | SniperFodder | Ding? |
| 00:53.38 | JoshBorke | i ask because i know you have experience :-D |
| 00:53.44 | Shadowed | JoshBorke: Yeah, SCT 5.4 and SCTD both does this |
| 00:54.13 | Shadowed | the main issue is trying to identify mobs of the same/name level, but if you're just trying to position it above party or raid names for example. Its pretty easy |
| 00:54.38 | JoshBorke | ok, cool |
| 00:59.08 | ag` | hrm, I have 5.4 and I can't find the name plate option |
| 01:03.15 | Shadowed | It's under spells, "Show Heals on Nameplates" |
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| 01:09.39 | ag` | Shadowed: ok |
| 01:09.42 | ag` | thanks:) |
| 01:16.39 | Sstixrud | Anyone willing to take a look at: http://wowi.pastey.net/7208 with an eye torwards improving performance? |
| 01:16.55 | JoshBorke | do return end |
| 01:18.10 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: don't call UB_HealthEvent for target if you're just gonna return out of it |
| 01:18.36 | WobWork | and move the target == target check before the local assignation |
| 01:18.45 | WobWork | so you don't make the assignation if not required |
| 01:18.54 | JoshBorke | that's why i said just don't call it :-P |
| 01:19.20 | WobWork | oh yeah, just take out the arg1 == "target" check up top |
| 01:20.03 | Sstixrud | k, anything else? |
| 01:20.18 | WobWork | line 70 don't declare a local if you're just going to use it as a single assignation |
| 01:20.19 | Sstixrud | the buff/debuff code seems to be the most sensitive to performance heh |
| 01:20.30 | JoshBorke | yea, in UB_UnitBuffs, move the if (UnitISFriend('player',arg1) then outside of the while loop |
| 01:20.38 | WobWork | just use ...Buff(arg1, name, "deactive") |
| 01:20.40 | JoshBorke | set a variable |
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| 01:22.08 | WobWork | same as JB said in the next loop |
| 01:22.36 | WobWork | And repeat for the UnitDebuffs |
| 01:23.03 | JoshBorke | basically trying to do as liitle work inside the loops as possible |
| 01:23.13 | Sstixrud | k |
| 01:23.20 | WobWork | especially for variables that won't change over the course of the loop |
| 01:23.36 | Sstixrud | For the UnitDebuff section the max debuffs is 40, should I change from while to for? or won't it matter much |
| 01:24.02 | JoshBorke | like discussed earlier the for loop will compile to better opcodes |
| 01:24.37 | JoshBorke | again, make a variable like isEnemy = UnitIsEnemy('player',arg1) and isFriendly = UnitIsFriend('player',arg1) |
| 01:24.39 | Sstixrud | understood, but if the difference will be minor I would leave for consitenncy sake :) |
| 01:25.31 | JoshBorke | and you could do: local targetIsEnemy = arg1 == "target" and isEnemy |
| 01:25.41 | JoshBorke | so that the elseif doesn't have to do 2 comparisons during the loop |
| 01:26.03 | JoshBorke | and put the isFriend first |
| 01:26.15 | JoshBorke | before type == "Poison" etc |
| 01:26.44 | Sstixrud | Is there a better way to multiple type == "" rather than list them all out? |
| 01:26.57 | JoshBorke | not that i can think of at the moment |
| 01:27.00 | Sstixrud | same with my targets above.. that would be crazy when I have to do it for raid1-40 |
| 01:27.25 | JoshBorke | you can make it easier on yourself by iterating over a table or through a loop |
| 01:28.03 | JoshBorke | but you'll sacrifice performance |
| 01:28.18 | Sstixrud | ya, good point my table already has the target names that I want to search for :) |
| 01:28.27 | WobWork | well |
| 01:28.28 | Sstixrud | ya :| |
| 01:28.38 | WobWork | You could put it all in a table |
| 01:28.42 | WobWork | but I don't know if that'll be faster |
| 01:28.51 | WobWork | (more efficient) |
| 01:28.55 | JoshBorke | it won't |
| 01:29.12 | WobWork | It'll be easier to read, is about all =P And even then, not really =P |
| 01:29.38 | JoshBorke | well, if you already have a table with the units you want to watch for, you could just do: if (tblWithUnitsToWatchFor[arg1]) then |
| 01:29.40 | Sstixrud | this part of my code is called ALOT so I am just more interested in performance gains then clearness :) |
| 01:29.53 | WobWork | yeah, that's what I meant |
| 01:29.55 | JoshBorke | which for many units will be faster i think |
| 01:30.16 | WobWork | units = {"player", "party1", "party2", "party3", "party4", "party5"} |
| 01:30.18 | JoshBorke | a 40 option if or a single table lookup :-D |
| 01:30.20 | WobWork | if units[arg1] |
| 01:30.28 | JoshBorke | wouldn't work wobin :-P |
| 01:30.47 | JoshBorke | units = {'player'=true, 'party1'=true} etc :-P |
| 01:31.03 | WobWork | no. it'll return nil |
| 01:31.08 | Sstixrud | ya with a performance hit tho right? "for k,v in pairs(UBVAR.DYNEVENTS[arg1].Debuff) do" the [arg1] part of this table contains pre-configured tables matching the "target" names I am interested in |
| 01:31.09 | WobWork | if it isn't in the table |
| 01:31.11 | WobWork | thus false |
| 01:31.40 | JoshBorke | your units returns a table indexed by number |
| 01:32.01 | WobWork | if 1 then |
| 01:32.04 | WobWork | if 2 then |
| 01:32.17 | JoshBorke | wait, now i'm just confused |
| 01:32.36 | JoshBorke | i'll go play with my legos some more |
| 01:32.38 | WobWork | I don't have a lua compiler to check, but I'm fairly sure that returns true |
| 01:33.36 | JoshBorke | {"player","party1"} == {[1] = "player", [2] = "party1"} was what I was trying to say |
| 01:33.48 | WobWork | oh |
| 01:33.53 | WobWork | yeah =) |
| 01:33.57 | JoshBorke | :-D |
| 01:34.03 | WobWork | That'll teach me to try stuff =P |
| 01:34.47 | Sstixrud | Josh I don't see how you mean for me to "move the if UnitIsFriend outside the while loop"? |
| 01:35.04 | JoshBorke | i hate that i can't hit tab inside the edit box, so giev me a few minutes to do my optimizations |
| 01:35.10 | WobWork | Well UnitIsFriend(arg1) will always return the same value |
| 01:35.15 | WobWork | cause arg1 never changes within the loop |
| 01:35.46 | WobWork | so if it never changes, it's better to call it once outside the loop, than many times within |
| 01:36.04 | Sstixrud | outside the "while true do"? |
| 01:36.08 | WobWork | yeah |
| 01:36.16 | WobWork | and the for loop after that as well |
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| 01:36.50 | WobWork | In fact, since you already have the value of isfriend, you can use it in the for loop instead of the function call |
| 01:36.52 | Sstixrud | but I still want the "while true do" to run if its not true, its also updating a table besides running the external function |
| 01:37.15 | Sstixrud | could you show me an example? |
| 01:37.47 | Sstixrud | if it is not a friend I mean, I obviously dont want the "while true do" to run if while is false heh |
| 01:39.16 | WobWork | http://wowi.pastey.net/7209?hi=42,52,69 |
| 01:39.33 | WobWork | well 'while true do' will always run. no matter what |
| 01:39.57 | WobWork | cause true, will always be true |
| 01:40.05 | WobWork | in fact |
| 01:40.10 | WobWork | That loop will run endlessly =P |
| 01:40.18 | WobWork | ish |
| 01:40.25 | WobWork | nah, you have a break statement |
| 01:40.26 | WobWork | nm me |
| 01:40.28 | clad|afk | endlessyish? =) |
| 01:40.29 | clad|afk | lol |
| 01:40.38 | WobWork | We is technical peoples here, clad! |
| 01:40.44 | clad|afk | i are not! |
| 01:40.54 | WobWork | yous is to! |
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| 01:41.05 | clad|afk | these quests are fun.. second one i've run up against: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10248 |
| 01:41.08 | JoshBorke | http://wowi.pastey.net/7210 |
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| 01:42.55 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 01:43.05 | JoshBorke | it looks like it got fubared by putting it in openoffice |
| 01:43.10 | WobWork | characterlicious |
| 01:43.25 | JoshBorke | meh, yo'ull get the idea |
| 01:43.52 | WobWork | JB: dump the local status = 'active' |
| 01:43.59 | WobWork | and put the string in directly |
| 01:44.03 | JoshBorke | yea, you could |
| 01:44.13 | JoshBorke | i was just being lazy and copying/pasting as much as possible |
| 01:44.48 | Sstixrud | thanks guys ill study and rewrite and test :) |
| 01:45.04 | JoshBorke | other things to be done to 'speed' it up would be to make a local reference to all the functions you call |
| 01:45.29 | JoshBorke | loca pairs, UnitBuff,UnitDebuff, UB_ChangeButtonsCure = pairs, UnitBuff, UnitDebuff, UB_ChangeButtonsCure |
| 01:46.23 | WobWork | although pairs shouldn't take that much of a performance hit |
| 01:46.29 | WobWork | (you'd hope =P) |
| 01:46.35 | JoshBorke | lol, yea |
| 01:46.37 | Sstixrud | should I also put a "local target == arg1" up in the "if (event == xxx") then", replacing all following arg1's with target? |
| 01:46.54 | WobWork | nah, arg1 is a local already |
| 01:47.02 | WobWork | from the function definition |
| 01:48.19 | Sstixrud | what about trying to combine UB_UnitBuffs with UB_UnitDebuff's since I am calling both every UNIT_AURA event? |
| 01:48.20 | JoshBorke | well, in his original form arg1 wasn't local |
| 01:49.27 | Sstixrud | ya the arg1 from the events I didnt think was local and I am just passing it to the external functions, wasn't sure if declaring a local varible in the event part would help with performance |
| 01:49.34 | WobWork | oh |
| 01:51.16 | Nom- | Evening guys |
| 01:51.24 | Sstixrud | aww I see, JB's version declares watchUnits as local then "2function UB_OnEvent(frame,arg1,arg2,arg3)" |
| 01:51.25 | Nom- | Well, morning for me, but whatever :D |
| 01:53.40 | JoshBorke | morning Nom- |
| 01:53.40 | JoshBorke | ~ugt |
| 01:53.51 | purl | i heard ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 01:53.52 | Sstixrud | Josh what would the local watchUnits look like without the openoffice formating? =) |
| 01:53.55 | Nom- | Speak of the devil... |
| 01:53.55 | pastamancer | this sounds suspiciously like what SpecialEvents-Aura does, might want to steal from it |
| 01:53.56 | Nom- | Just kidding, Cairenn :) |
| 01:54.18 | Nom- | lol @ ugt :) |
| 01:54.29 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: local watchUnits = {"player" = true, "party1" = true} -- etc |
| 01:54.39 | Cairenn | I'm not the devil, I'm the adminstratrix, get it right, sheesh |
| 01:55.00 | Sstixrud | kk, the odd chars can be ignored then thanks wasn't sure if something fancy was in there I was missing :) |
| 01:55.05 | Nom- | ooo |
| 01:55.10 | Nom- | Administrate me :D |
| 01:55.19 | Cairenn | you wish |
| 01:55.27 | Nom- | :~( |
| 01:55.29 | JoshBorke | what about me cair? ;-) |
| 01:55.46 | Cairenn | beg nice |
| 01:56.18 | JoshBorke | purl, rub Cairenn's feet |
| 01:56.38 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:56.58 | Nom- | purl is rather slow this morning. |
| 01:57.04 | clad|afk | indeed |
| 01:57.10 | cladhaire | bah, almost sleep time =( |
| 01:57.12 | Cairenn | right now, a back rub would get you a whole hell of a lot further |
| 01:57.16 | JoshBorke | purl doesn't know how to rub Cairenn's feet, he feels he's inadequate |
| 01:57.22 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 01:57.55 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 01:58.16 | Cairenn | meh, I'll survive |
| 01:58.41 | WobWork | as long as you know how to love you know you'll stay alive? |
| 01:58.52 | Nom- | OMG IM AN IDIOT |
| 01:58.54 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:58.57 | Nom- | It's pay week |
| 01:59.02 | Tierrie_ | just a simple question, how do you anchor a frame to where you clicked? |
| 01:59.05 | Nom- | And I decided to work from home today |
| 01:59.39 | Nom- | Monday on pay week = Massage day |
| 01:59.45 | JoshBorke | Tierrie_: slomething about getting the cursor X and Y position. check wowwiki |
| 01:59.51 | WobWork | Tierrie_: GetCursorPosition then setpoint to ParentUI taking into account EffectiveScale |
| 02:00.03 | SniperFodder | Later all |
| 02:00.09 | Sstixrud | josh why do you add "frame" to the UB_OnEvents()? |
| 02:00.17 | Tierrie_ | Thanks Wob |
| 02:00.22 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: because frame is passed to the function |
| 02:00.35 | JoshBorke | technically cladhaire said it was self |
| 02:00.41 | JoshBorke | but i know it as the frame |
| 02:00.49 | cladhaire | aye, the game passes it to the handler as self. |
| 02:00.53 | cladhaire | you can rename it at that point =) |
| 02:00.58 | JoshBorke | i have a problem with making things up so that i can understand it |
| 02:01.13 | JoshBorke | and then ignoring when people correct me |
| 02:01.46 | Sstixrud | Josh - hmmm when/how would I use that? Since I don't have it defined now I am unsure if I need to add it? |
| 02:02.04 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: you can just ignore it |
| 02:02.11 | JoshBorke | it's only there to fill the gap so you can get a local copy of arg1 |
| 02:02.44 | Tem|AFK | you should use it |
| 02:02.51 | Tem | it's faster than 'this' |
| 02:03.03 | cladhaire | yep |
| 02:03.06 | JoshBorke | he doesn't use this :-P |
| 02:03.12 | cladhaire | and this will be deprecated |
| 02:03.18 | JoshBorke | or did he and i just didn't notice? |
| 02:03.29 | Sstixrud | ok, but in the example you gave me do I need UB_OnEvent(frame,arg1-[x]) [x] being the number of watchUnits? or what? |
| 02:03.50 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: no. the watchUnits is just a table to make your if statements easier |
| 02:04.20 | WobWork | lookup table |
| 02:04.38 | Sstixrud | ok understood. |
| 02:07.10 | WobWork | hm |
| 02:07.15 | WobWork | I want to write a debugging library |
| 02:07.21 | JoshBorke | ~devtools |
| 02:07.33 | purl | devtools is, like, Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta |
| 02:07.33 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 02:07.33 | WobWork | that you can attach to a frame |
| 02:07.37 | WobWork | and list variables you define |
| 02:07.43 | WobWork | as a tooltip |
| 02:07.55 | WobWork | I'd call it "WHERE'S MY COW" |
| 02:08.42 | WobWork | although that question is a valid one |
| 02:08.51 | WobWork | (not the 'where's my cow', but that's valid too) |
| 02:08.59 | WobWork | Why isn't it in the default client? =P |
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| 02:12.58 | JoshBorke | like what sort of variables? |
| 02:13.14 | WobWork | whatever you as the programmer want |
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| 02:13.33 | WobWork | I'm trying to play around with statehandlers, and having to go GetMouseFocus():GetAttribute("state") |
| 02:13.37 | WobWork | all the time is irritating |
| 02:13.43 | JoshBorke | ah, i see |
| 02:13.44 | Tingle | hi |
| 02:13.52 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 02:13.53 | Sstixrud | whats the diff between single quotes and double in lua? |
| 02:13.53 | WobWork | so a tooltip that shows up a list of predefined calls would be cool |
| 02:14.15 | WobWork | I could have the tooltip in the sillhouette of a cow |
| 02:14.20 | JoshBorke | i can't keep my quotes consistent :-D |
| 02:14.38 | Sstixrud | heh |
| 02:17.15 | JoshBorke | can you run more than 1 wow instance on the same computer? |
| 02:17.33 | WobWork | yes |
| 02:17.37 | Nom- | Hey guys, I read somewhere that one of the planned features for 2.0 was some kind of macro or ingame menu that you could setup |
| 02:17.44 | Nom- | Anyone know if that made it in? |
| 02:17.50 | WobWork | setup what? |
| 02:17.52 | WobWork | macros? |
| 02:17.52 | JoshBorke | huh? in game menu? |
| 02:18.09 | Nom- | Apparently they were going to do something so you could setup a macro that would bring up a menu |
| 02:18.28 | Nom- | So like you'd make a 'buff' macro which would bring up a menu to select the buff |
| 02:18.46 | Nom- | So like 9=Buff Macro, then 1-5 become your buff buttons until you press one of them |
| 02:19.05 | JoshBorke | never heard of it |
| 02:20.26 | Tingle | hi |
| 02:21.09 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 02:22.09 | Tingle | im useing MapNotes (v3.36.20003) Author: Telic, to build a mapnote UI, i want to have mapnotes apear for a certain quest depending on if a certain quest shows up in the quest log or a quest is accepted or completed/abandond |
| 02:22.35 | Tingle | how do i interact with a mapnote ui |
| 02:22.37 | Tingle | to make it do that |
| 02:24.00 | Tierrie | how do you sort by table keys? do you have to obtain the keys first, sort them to then iterate over the sorted keys? |
| 02:24.11 | Tingle | any ideas or help? |
| 02:24.43 | WobWork | Tierrie: Yes |
| 02:24.57 | WobWork | Tingle: Does he offer an API you can work with? |
| 02:25.13 | Tingle | dont know |
| 02:25.29 | Tingle | cant figure out in what lua or xml to look in because there are so many |
| 02:25.55 | kergoth | sounds like you're wanting to do what cartographer_quests does |
| 02:26.27 | Tingle | what does it do |
| 02:26.41 | Tingle | does it have every quest + mapnote? |
| 02:27.05 | WobWork | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6678 |
| 02:27.13 | Nom- | Yah, Cartographer with Quest Mapnotes |
| 02:27.16 | Nom- | It rocks :) |
| 02:27.28 | Tingle | all quests? |
| 02:27.32 | Tingle | even BC? |
| 02:27.41 | Nom- | Every time you see a quest it puts it on the map |
| 02:27.43 | WobWork | well I imagine you'll have to propogate them yourself |
| 02:27.53 | WobWork | otherwise it's a huge amount of mostly unused data |
| 02:28.00 | Nom- | You have to right-click on the quest giver and *see* the quest, but yeah...it puts them on the map once you've seen it |
| 02:28.34 | Tingle | lol |
| 02:28.34 | Tingle | nice |
| 02:28.36 | Tingle | then |
| 02:28.42 | Tingle | i want that instead of makeing my own |
| 02:28.46 | Tingle | where can i get it |
| 02:28.49 | Nom- | Yes, yes you do :) |
| 02:28.58 | Nom- | It's an ace addon :) www.wowace.com |
| 02:29.17 | Tingle | addon to cartographer? |
| 02:29.27 | Tingle | does it have mapnotes added? |
| 02:29.33 | Tingle | i mean map coords |
| 02:30.13 | Nom- | http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 02:30.49 | Nom- | You want Cartographer, Cartographer_Quests, |
| 02:30.53 | Nom- | Cartographer_Waypoints is handy too |
| 02:31.00 | Tingle | what does that do |
| 02:31.06 | Nom- | Puts an arrow onscreen to any waypoints that you /tloc for :) |
| 02:31.26 | Nom- | so like you can do /tloc 40,55 and it'll give you an arrow to show you which direction to go |
| 02:31.40 | Tingle | no need for that :P |
| 02:31.43 | Nom- | purl, jump on bleetah |
| 02:31.53 | purl | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of on bleetah |
| 02:31.55 | Nom- | I love it :) |
| 02:31.58 | bleetah | ow! |
| 02:32.06 | bleetah | coulda been worse |
| 02:32.06 | Nom- | Mainly because I use waypoints a *lot* |
| 02:32.10 | bleetah | i coulda set a devil onto ya ;) |
| 02:32.51 | Tingle | ok got carto and quests |
| 02:33.00 | Tingle | do i put the querts into the carto folder? |
| 02:33.07 | Tingle | quests- |
| 02:33.27 | Tingle | or into addon root |
| 02:34.13 | Tingle | ?? |
| 02:34.28 | Tingle | where do i install it into it |
| 02:35.49 | Tingle | what does treasure, noteshare, mining, herbalism do? |
| 02:36.59 | JoshBorke | read their description |
| 02:37.03 | bleetah | what do you think it'd do? |
| 02:37.09 | bleetah | /sigh |
| 02:37.57 | Sstixrud | Josh if I declare "local status = "active"" earlier in a function, I should just do status = "xxx" to change it, instead of local status = "xxx" ?? |
| 02:38.08 | Tierrie | you should do status="xxx" |
| 02:38.10 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 02:38.19 | Sstixrud | didn't know that, thanks |
| 02:38.24 | Tierrie | local is a the scope component of the variable declaration |
| 02:38.26 | Tierrie | correct me if I'm wrong -- local frame = getglobal("myframe") or CreateFrame("myframe".... |
| 02:38.45 | Tierrie | that will attempt to get the myframe first, and if that doesn't exist, then it will create the frame? |
| 02:39.18 | Sstixrud | Josh what about defining the isEnemy, isFriend and targetIsEnemy stuff outside of both functions since they both use them? |
| 02:39.34 | Sstixrud | like maybe define them in the event handler? |
| 02:40.35 | JoshBorke | arg1 changes between fdunctions |
| 02:40.51 | WobWork | Tierrie: yes |
| 02:41.32 | JoshBorke | but you could change it so that would work |
| 02:41.37 | Sstixrud | does it? both UB_UnitBUttons() and UB_UnitDebuffs() is called unconditionally during each UNIT_AURA event |
| 02:44.26 | WobWork | Tierrie: Although to be entirely technical, that line won't result in anything, as you have it commented out =) |
| 02:45.05 | Sstixrud | hmm I would have to pass them then... nevermind |
| 02:45.12 | bleetah | WobWork's wrong too |
| 02:45.22 | bleetah | it'll fault out on 'correct me' ... :-P |
| 02:45.42 | JoshBorke | that's what i thought too |
| 02:45.45 | JoshBorke | but i didn't want to embarass him |
| 02:46.42 | Tierrie | WobWork: haha then -- is not a comment, it was a sentence run on thingamajig |
| 02:46.56 | Tierrie | sort of like "today was a good day -- i had cheese for lunch" |
| 02:47.09 | WobWork | "This has been a -good- conversation" |
| 02:47.14 | bleetah | ellipsises |
| 02:47.28 | Tierrie | "1 - 2 = - 1" |
| 02:47.29 | WobWork | bleetah: Then it'd be a ... variable =P |
| 02:47.31 | bleetah | er... yeah,... these things ... although I'm faking them |
| 02:47.39 | JoshBorke | can i buy a vowel? |
| 02:47.51 | Tierrie | yeah paypal the cash to me! |
| 02:48.04 | bleetah | … << them! |
| 02:48.21 | WobWork | ……………… |
| 02:48.42 | bleetah | …ↂ⅋ℱ℡ℨ∰ |
| 02:49.12 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tingle (n=tingle@W11e4.w.pppool.de) |
| 02:49.22 | WobWork | 你好 |
| 02:49.36 | Tingle | mm question to cartographer |
| 02:49.52 | bleetah | ሥሡሩሻቪ |
| 02:49.55 | WobWork | 什么？ |
| 02:49.57 | Tingle | are there map coords included |
| 02:49.59 | Tingle | and |
| 02:50.05 | WobWork | 对 |
| 02:50.06 | JoshBorke | Tingle: map coords are part of the base cartographer |
| 02:50.12 | bleetah | ઌઉથઊ |
| 02:50.15 | Tingle | i cant get it to load |
| 02:50.16 | JoshBorke | hey that looks like kanji |
| 02:50.26 | JoshBorke | Tingle: did you restart wow? did you install the mod correctly? |
| 02:50.30 | WobWork | closer to say kanji looks like that =P |
| 02:50.30 | bleetah | that last lot from me was Gujarati |
| 02:50.31 | Tingle | i cant get cartographer it self |
| 02:50.33 | Tingle | yes i did |
| 02:50.47 | WobWork | since it's chinese |
| 02:50.55 | WobWork | and kanji is the same |
| 02:50.58 | Tingle | i put the quest into the folder then the folder into the addons file |
| 02:51.13 | WobWork | no, outside in your main addons folder |
| 02:51.27 | Tingle | ah |
| 02:51.28 | Tingle | ok |
| 02:51.29 | Tingle | ^^ |
| 02:51.32 | WobWork | You should have Cartographer, and Cartographer_Quests in the Addons folder |
| 02:51.35 | bleetah | شثئهڅړڒڐ |
| 02:51.50 | Tierrie | I have decided that despite universal acceptance, reading is actually a hindrance to knowledge rather than the catalyst |
| 02:52.09 | bleetah | must say tho, i'm rather fond of right to left/left to right overrides... unfortunately most clients suck at reading it |
| 02:52.37 | JoshBorke | kaeps sdrawkcab etah i |
| 02:53.15 | bleetah | there's a subtle difference between backwards, and RtL/LtR overrides. usually only becomes apparent when one re-sizes the frame. |
| 02:53.56 | bleetah | the other thing to note, is arabic has the hottest default charset with default smilies |
| 02:54.02 | bleetah | ټ |
| 02:54.03 | Tingle | ok it works now but how to i interface with cartographer ingame |
| 02:54.09 | Tingle | o_O? |
| 02:54.18 | JoshBorke | open your map |
| 02:54.22 | Tingle | k |
| 02:54.25 | Tierrie | ok |
| 02:54.37 | Tingle | ah gotcha ^^ |
| 02:54.39 | Tierrie | there's a fucking clicking noise coming out of my speakers, one of my programs is clicking every minute |
| 02:54.42 | Tingle | ok time to play with my toy |
| 02:54.44 | Tingle | :D |
| 02:54.49 | Cairenn | tmi |
| 02:55.00 | JoshBorke | ding 46 |
| 02:55.47 | WobWork | hrm interesting enough I guess |
| 02:56.44 | Kirkburn|afk | I need a website that can send SMS messages |
| 02:56.50 | Kirkburn|afk | My phone is broken :/ |
| 02:57.26 | WobWork | smspup? |
| 02:58.26 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: suggestion... set up your MSN account or ICQ to send to SMS when yer offline.. although I believe those services are carrier/region dependent |
| 02:58.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Australian only it seems |
| 02:59.32 | Tingle | mmm |
| 02:59.42 | Tingle | question about the profession like herb |
| 02:59.55 | Tingle | how do i get the loc notes to show up on the map?` |
| 03:00.13 | WobWork | pallypower? |
| 03:00.14 | JoshBorke | Tingle: install Cartographer_Herbalism |
| 03:00.18 | Tingle | i did |
| 03:00.20 | Tingle | its on |
| 03:00.25 | JoshBorke | go farm something |
| 03:00.40 | WobWork | Tingle: You'll have to note, none of these packs come predefined with points of interest |
| 03:00.46 | WobWork | Since that would be stupid =P |
| 03:01.14 | Tingle | you mean i have to first see them to make them show on the map? |
| 03:01.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm - does anyone have Cog's semi-famous "whisper everyone that you're sheeping" macro handy? |
| 03:01.46 | WobWork | yes. |
| 03:02.01 | Nom- | lol turns out it was a good thing I didn't go in |
| 03:02.06 | Nom- | The air condition has packed up again |
| 03:02.15 | Nom- | air conditioner |
| 03:02.17 | Tingle | wowwork was that a yes to me? |
| 03:02.23 | WobWork | Yes. |
| 03:02.27 | Tierrie | Wob one more question, have you ever used UIDropDownMenu? |
| 03:02.31 | Tingle | and the quests? are they already there? |
| 03:02.34 | bleetah | damn, nom-, what are you doin' over there? |
| 03:02.36 | WobWork | Unless you have guildies who can propogate the information to you |
| 03:02.43 | WobWork | Tingle: No. Read what I said |
| 03:02.52 | Tingle | what the quests arnt there |
| 03:02.55 | bleetah | Weather: PERTH, WA at 26th 11:30 EST: Temp 26.1°C, Humidity: 57%, Wind: E at 13 km/hr with gusts of 22 km/hr. Atmospheric Pressure: 1010.7 hPa. Rain: 0.0 mm. Source: <http://www.bom.gov.au/> |
| 03:02.56 | WobWork | Tingle: There is -no- information preloaded |
| 03:02.59 | Nom- | bleetah, nothing; i did nothing! |
| 03:03.04 | Tingle | i first have to do them? |
| 03:03.08 | WobWork | Yes. |
| 03:03.09 | Nom- | heh |
| 03:03.11 | WobWork | >< |
| 03:03.16 | Tingle | lol |
| 03:03.19 | bleetah | Nom-: it's not even hot or humid! |
| 03:03.31 | Nom- | bleetah, 13 story building + no air conditioning all weekend = hot, hot building |
| 03:03.42 | WobWork | It's raining here. |
| 03:03.42 | Tingle | are there datapacks anywhere in the net that i can download? |
| 03:03.44 | WobWork | (Yay) |
| 03:03.45 | bleetah | Nom-: btw, that's from the bot in the ##australia channel, you should come idle in there with the other 'local' crazies! :D |
| 03:03.56 | bleetah | (yes, two #'s 'coz it's an info chan) |
| 03:05.16 | JoshBorke | Tingle: no |
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| 03:07.43 | WobWork | >< |
| 03:07.48 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v Esamynn] by ChanServ |
| 03:07.53 | WobWork | There's someone who needs to buy gold or something =P |
| 03:11.53 | JoshBorke | i need gold |
| 03:11.56 | JoshBorke | but it's expensive |
| 03:12.13 | JoshBorke | i'd only buy if it were $1 per 100 gold |
| 03:14.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | THIS CONCEPT OF WUV CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US |
| 03:14.19 | bleetah | ~impressiveclergyman |
| 03:14.21 | purl | Mawage. Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday. Mawage, that bwessed awangment, that dweam wifin a dweam... And wuv, tru wuv, will fowow you foweva... So tweasure your wuv. |
| 03:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm watching futurama and one of the alien guys from omicron persei VIII said that^^ |
| 03:15.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
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| 03:24.52 | Tingle | mm :P |
| 03:25.50 | Tingle | i have the quest addon installed and it loads i think, i cant find anything in the drop down window about quests, i did a quest, strtet a new character and accepted the quest, looked at the map an no dots or something about where the quest gets done or what ever... |
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| 03:28.31 | Tierrie | hi guys! |
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| 03:31.47 | Tingle | ??? cartographer help ??? |
| 03:32.40 | JoshBorke | Tingle: try #wowace |
| 03:33.24 | Tingle | k |
| 03:33.26 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Tingle (n=tingle@W11e4.w.pppool.de) |
| 03:34.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | poor guy |
| 03:34.25 | bleetah | iirc, tingle was here several weeks ago talking about creating a mod that had all the quest info, then selling it (the mod) to gold farmers, etc. |
| 03:34.38 | JoshBorke | pretty sure that was someone else |
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| 03:35.23 | bleetah | maybe you're right. tingle was after info about how to write C programs to read WoW memory, etc. |
| 03:35.38 | bleetah | sorry, gothic3 |
| 03:35.58 | bleetah | (02:45:06 PM) tingle: i dont want to interact with WoW, i want to interact with gothic3 |
| 03:36.05 | bleetah | around 15th Feb |
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| 03:36.57 | WobWork | is gothic3 any good? |
| 03:37.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunno |
| 03:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm about to play shadowbane and i know nothing about it |
| 03:38.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to be like a life leech class but i have no idea what the all the classes, sub classes, and sub sub classes do |
| 03:38.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 03:41.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, the wiki is out of date - what was SPELLCAST_START renamed to again? |
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| 03:43.51 | pastamancer | ScytheBlade1: http://wowi.pastey.net/7217 from my notes |
| 03:44.46 | ScytheBlade1 | pastamancer, awesome, thanks |
| 03:45.57 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: have you tested the synching of CastCommLib for channel_stop? |
| 03:46.37 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: it should work |
| 03:47.00 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: I forget what spell I used to test it with though, something low level and warlock-ish probably |
| 03:47.01 | JoshBorke | for some reason my mod wasn't receiving endTime for CHANNEL_UPDATE (or something like that) |
| 03:47.51 | JoshBorke | i don't remember exactly. i just added checks for the values and return'd if i didn't have it |
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| 03:49.13 | pastamancer | hmm, it should have been getting endTime from the cache |
| 03:49.28 | JoshBorke | channel_update should change the cache though, shouldn't it? |
| 03:49.35 | pastamancer | yeah |
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| 03:54.22 | malreth | this is malreth and I can suck the life out of a shark! |
| 03:59.29 | Thunder_Child | by hand |
| 03:59.31 | Thunder_Child | no less |
| 04:00.15 | WobWork | but can you suck a golfball through a garden hose? |
| 04:00.24 | WobWork | These are the important details =) |
| 04:00.40 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: yeah, anything that's not an 'actionSpellEnd' causes and update |
| 04:00.48 | pastamancer | s/and/an/ |
| 04:02.26 | JoshBorke | night all :-) |
| 04:07.19 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXFBjTmmRuo |
| 04:13.28 | sysrage | woot. finally downed moroes punk ass |
| 04:15.10 | Sstixrud | when using "for k,v in pairs(Buff.PlayerUnitButton9) do" how would I use "v" i.e I want to get the name of "v" not the variable order number? |
| 04:16.21 | Sstixrud | for example I "Blessing of Wisdom" under "Buff.PlayerUnitButton9", do I have to turn around and "for k, v in pairs(Buff.PlayerUnitButton9[k]) do" or is their a simplar cheaper way? |
| 04:16.48 | malreth | foo={ apple = "clinton", banana = "gore" } |
| 04:16.59 | malreth | for k, v in pairs(foo) do print(k, v) end |
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| 04:17.10 | malreth | prints: apple clinton |
| 04:17.18 | malreth | prints: banana gore |
| 04:18.07 | Sstixrud | hmmm then I wonder why this isn't working.. |
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| 04:22.57 | malreth | back... |
| 04:23.04 | malreth | miss me? |
| 04:24.10 | Cairenn | welcome back |
| 04:25.57 | Tem | Gag me with a spoon |
| 04:26.19 | Tem | they gave the oscar to him, didn't they? |
| 04:27.19 | bleetah | you mean the commie? |
| 04:27.44 | bleetah | or Ennio Morricione... 'coz I think he's prolly the only one who deserved one this year ;) |
| 04:28.09 | Tem | I'm referring to gore |
| 04:28.19 | bleetah | yeah, the commie! :-P |
| 04:28.23 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 04:28.29 | Tem | I guess it figures |
| 04:28.38 | Tem | leftist hollywood and all |
| 04:31.59 | pastamancer | a country founded by people who though the CoE was too lenient |
| 04:34.48 | bleetah | hell, the Australian liberal party.. in govt at the moment, are the conservative party.. ;) |
| 04:35.00 | bleetah | er... Liberal.. gotta be careful on that capitalisation |
| 04:38.47 | WobWork | It's true =) |
| 04:41.03 | Tierrie_ | grrrrrr |
| 04:41.11 | Tierrie_ | i have to write my own UIDropDownMenu |
| 04:41.12 | Tierrie_ | :( |
| 04:41.23 | Esamynn | how come? |
| 04:41.52 | Tierrie_ | i am doing way too many hacks to keep it context sensitive, and i can't SetScript("OnEnter" because its already being used |
| 04:42.11 | Nom- | Anyone got some mod suggestions for me? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79190580&sid=1 ^_^ |
| 04:42.11 | Tierrie_ | well i could, but then i need to hook on their function |
| 04:42.15 | Tierrie_ | oooh hook |
| 04:42.43 | Tierrie_ | is that DHUD nom? |
| 04:42.48 | Tierrie_ | if it is, your UI looks perfect |
| 04:42.56 | Nom- | DHUD, yes :) |
| 04:43.14 | Nom- | Bah...I'm never happy with it no matter what I do :P |
| 04:43.29 | Tierrie_ | haha ok my suggestion is to remove the black bar at the bottom, it takes up 1/5 of your screen, 20% |
| 04:43.56 | WobWork | Tierrie_: Use something like Dewdrop? |
| 04:44.03 | Nom- | All the chat frames are there anyway tho |
| 04:44.26 | WobWork | It's useful for dynamic dropdown menus |
| 04:44.35 | Tierrie_ | Nom- not always, when raiding or soloing there's no chat clutter |
| 04:44.47 | Tierrie_ | Dewdrop ok I'll check it out |
| 04:45.05 | Nom- | hah |
| 04:45.19 | Nom- | There is...our guild chat goes nuts during my normal play time |
| 04:45.46 | Nom- | I think i've worked out why I can't get it the way I want...I need a widescreen LCD :P |
| 04:46.11 | Nom- | I want to get the map into that block at the bottom too, and that's the problem... |
| 04:46.13 | bleetah | totally.. WoW really needs widescreen |
| 04:46.48 | Tierrie_ | Nom-:http://www.code-poets.org/WoWScrnShot_121306_231505.jpg |
| 04:47.19 | Nom- | yah, Tierrie_...widescreen ftw |
| 04:47.47 | Tierrie_ | it can be customized to non widescreen |
| 04:48.21 | Nom- | on btw, my party bars show up in the gap between autobar and buffs |
| 04:48.48 | Nom- | that seems to work ok for me...but yeah...i can't really put my finger on it, but i'm just not quite happy with it |
| 04:48.57 | Tem | hmm |
| 04:49.00 | Nom- | Too much of a perfectionist I guess |
| 04:49.11 | Tem | Nom-, when the base UI puts arrows on your minimap |
| 04:49.30 | Tem | and they'er pointing to one of the "unrounded" directions |
| 04:49.48 | Tem | do the arrows show up in the right places? |
| 04:49.55 | Nom- | hmm...not sure actually |
| 04:49.55 | Tem | or are they where the minimap border normally is? |
| 04:49.58 | Nom- | I've not noticed |
| 04:50.33 | Nom- | I'll quickly load up and have a lookski :) |
| 04:50.39 | Tem | thanks |
| 04:51.05 | Nom- | <3 windowed mode |
| 04:51.21 | Tem | I like how quickly I can tab out with it |
| 04:53.21 | Nom- | They go to where the minimap border would normally be :() |
| 04:53.24 | Nom- | :( |
| 04:54.20 | Tierrie_ | I really hate my ISP |
| 04:54.26 | Tierrie_ | its kicking me offline a billion times |
| 04:55.28 | Nom- | Oh...is there a new version of that buff mod |
| 04:55.38 | Nom- | I think it's called HolyHope...the one that's like Totemic |
| 04:55.52 | Tierrie_ | HolyHope is pretty old |
| 04:56.03 | Tierrie_ | It doesn't add anything to the game imho |
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| 05:04.24 | Sstixrud | can anyone tell me why this small code block doesnt work? http://wowi.pastey.net/7220 |
| 05:14.29 | WobWork | what's not happening? |
| 05:15.13 | Sstixrud | I think UBVAR.DYNEVENTS[atarget].Buff[k][name] is returning nil |
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| 05:16.23 | WobWork | What's the format of the table? |
| 05:16.28 | WobWork | Can you give an example? |
| 05:17.03 | bleetah | hmm, PTR PvP realm... realm selector shows population as 'High", yet a /who shows only 29 people |
| 05:17.14 | bleetah | I'd hate to see what it'd think a low pop would be |
| 05:17.20 | WobWork | Maybe they all have epic flying mounts |
| 05:17.46 | bleetah | does that remove them from the /who ? |
| 05:17.50 | WobWork | Population: "Chance of showers" |
| 05:17.58 | bleetah | heh |
| 05:18.51 | WobWork | Sstixrud: Try http://wowi.pastey.net/7222 |
| 05:19.20 | Sstixrud | awww! didnt know I could do v.name |
| 05:19.23 | Sstixrud | thanks |
| 05:19.57 | WobWork | hehe, aye, you have the key and value already from the for function |
| 05:19.57 | Sstixrud | I was trying to figure out how to use v |
| 05:20.05 | Sstixrud | but v kept reporting 1,2,3 |
| 05:20.17 | WobWork | Can you give an example of your table format? |
| 05:20.45 | Sstixrud | ya I just simplied it ill send you the current |
| 05:21.29 | Sstixrud | http://wowi.pastey.net/7224 |
| 05:21.46 | Sstixrud | thats not working either tho :| |
| 05:22.02 | Sstixrud | says attempt to index field '?' a nil value |
| 05:22.25 | Sstixrud | on line 2 |
| 05:26.09 | Sstixrud | oops I was wrong line 4.. that makes more sense |
| 05:27.16 | Sstixrud | any ideas Wob? |
| 05:28.04 | Sstixrud | woah, I think I got it working :) |
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| 05:29.14 | Sstixrud | this seems to work: http://wowi.pastey.net/7225 can you think of a more efficent way to do it? |
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| 05:55.35 | WobWork | Sstixrud: That should do it fine |
| 05:56.00 | WobWork | You might want to set a local reference to _G though |
| 05:56.05 | WobWork | for your file |
| 05:56.10 | Sstixrud | it works, I get a slight graphical hitch when it kicks off tho :| |
| 05:56.51 | Sstixrud | and I had to add a "if UBVAR.DYNEVENTS[atarget].Debuff[name] then" in front of it for the cases where the buff isn't defined :| |
| 05:57.04 | Sstixrud | trying to make this code efficent as it gets called often |
| 05:59.10 | Sstixrud | what do you mean a local reference? how would that look? |
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| 06:16.25 | Iriel | Sstixrud: local _G = getfenv(0); |
| 06:16.27 | Iriel | I imagine |
| 06:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | man, shadowbane is annoying to control |
| 06:22.43 | Corrodias | now how can this mob be immune to Main, when it's not immune to Pounce? |
| 06:23.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | incapacitate |
| 06:23.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | not stun |
| 06:23.54 | Corrodias | oh yes |
| 06:24.56 | Corrodias | what is shadowbane? |
| 06:25.22 | Corrodias | isn't that a terrible game? |
| 06:25.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | a free MMO, it's pretty fun but the controls suck horribly |
| 06:25.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | click to move :[ |
| 06:25.54 | Corrodias | haha |
| 06:25.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | theres like a bajillion subclasses though |
| 06:26.05 | Corrodias | cool |
| 06:26.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | finding something else to do than wow i guess |
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| 06:28.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 06:29.56 | ForGet | ! |
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| 06:31.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | O______o |
| 06:31.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know what just happened |
| 06:31.55 | Corrodias | your consciousness has been -expanded-~ |
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| 06:35.59 | WobWork | Iriel! *hug* |
| 06:39.55 | Corrodias | http://www.wowwiki.com/Omen_of_Clarity needs help |
| 06:40.18 | Corrodias | one, it could use information on how frequently it procs, and two, the comments at the end imply that it only procs once and then disappears, when actually it remains active for the full 30 minutes |
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| 06:44.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow that is terrible :p |
| 06:45.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure its a 2-3 ppm thing on a 10% chance on hit or so |
| 06:53.02 | Corrodias | how strange. TBag just seems to have lost the information of what one of my alts has in its inventory, but not its bank |
| 06:54.47 | Corrodias | this reminds me of how Notebook just lost all of its notes one day |
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| 07:43.42 | bleetah | someone made a feature request for Gaim... they want and API for plugins and documentation for same |
| 07:44.01 | bleetah | i guess there's no counting for stupidity |
| 07:44.11 | bleetah | and/an |
| 07:44.20 | MentalPower|DVD | already in place? |
| 07:44.30 | bleetah | since .. sometime '99 |
| 07:44.33 | MentalPower|DVD | lol |
| 07:45.12 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 07:45.59 | bleetah | MP: they can be written, with various levels of support, in Perl, C, Tcl, Python, C++, dbus, mono.. and a couple of others |
| 07:46.14 | MentalPower|DVD | no Lua :P |
| 07:46.47 | bleetah | one of the devs has that under construction.. he uses the ion window manager on linux which uses lua ;) |
| 07:47.02 | bleetah | but the usual burnout thingie, ya know |
| 07:47.28 | bleetah | 'coz he's also the wingaim man.. he gets bruned out repeatedly very quickly.. dealing with windows users ;) |
| 07:47.59 | MentalPower|DVD | hehe |
| 07:48.25 | bleetah | he was the guy who gave me that page about compiling Win32 on Linux that I gave norgs |
| 07:49.14 | bleetah | he's also Cairenn's hero |
| 07:49.22 | Cairenn | ummm |
| 07:49.23 | bleetah | (she knows what I mean ;-) ) |
| 07:49.35 | Cairenn | I don't know that I'd go quite _that_ far, but sure, okay |
| 07:49.42 | bleetah | hehe |
| 07:49.43 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 07:50.00 | MentalPower|DVD | hehe |
| 07:50.10 | MentalPower|DVD | anyways, time for me to change my tag |
| 07:50.16 | Cairenn | ditto |
| 07:50.17 | MentalPower|ZZzz | gnight |
| 07:50.18 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 07:50.22 | MentalPower|ZZzz | night Cair |
| 07:50.25 | bleetah | time for me to go out for the night, do some socialising |
| 07:50.32 | bleetah | cya folks, rest and travel safe |
| 07:51.42 | bleetah | if their d/l servers didn't brainfart every half hour.... :/ |
| 07:52.42 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 07:52.50 | Corrodias | now i need 12 primal earth and i'm not sure how i'm going to get them |
| 07:52.59 | Corrodias | i'm not a fan of spending a lot of money on the AH, but i may have to in this case |
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| 08:01.13 | Corrodias | shadowmoon! i'll see about farming those |
| 08:01.15 | Corrodias | damn low drop rate |
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| 08:06.19 | Corrodias | as much effort as i spent on arranging actions around my action bars for my other classes, i can hardly imagine what it's going to take to make a warrior playable |
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| 08:18.08 | Corrodias | Noble salamanders can be summoned by druids as nature's allies. [WoWRPG 345] |
| 08:18.12 | Corrodias | daaaamn >:o |
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| 08:22.09 | pakoz | hey |
| 08:23.33 | Corrodias | electric blue |
| 08:26.10 | Arrowmaster | make friends with a miner, i have more primal earth than i know what to do with |
| 08:29.09 | pakoz | anyone know how to find out the effects of items; besides reading the descrip -- example http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=33649 |
| 08:29.43 | Corrodias | i think that explains it pretty well |
| 08:29.48 | pakoz | the more detailed info-- how is that found out? |
| 08:30.02 | Corrodias | that's all the detail you could need |
| 08:30.13 | Corrodias | it increases attack power by 300. duration 10 seconds. |
| 08:30.34 | pakoz | yes, but how did thottbot pull the Effect 1 Apply Aura: Mod Melee Attack Power |
| 08:30.34 | pakoz | Value: 300 |
| 08:30.46 | pakoz | and the effect2 Apply Aura: Mod Ranged Attack Power value 300 |
| 08:31.39 | Corrodias | i don't know. i think someone uses a private server to fill in data, but i don't know if that's related. |
| 08:32.16 | Corrodias | maybe the thottbot addon just examines the effects of the buff |
| 08:32.25 | Corrodias | when the player gains a new AURA and such |
| 08:34.10 | Sstixrud | I am attempting to optimize the following code chunk: http://wowi.pastey.net/7231 anyone have any suggestions? |
| 08:38.16 | Sstixrud | hey Kaso =) care to take a crack at optimizing the above code? :) |
| 08:38.54 | Kaso | i already had a look, the first thing i would do is have some addon local copies of _G UnitBuff and UnitIsFriend |
| 08:39.59 | Kaso | make status a Boolean rather than a string, that'd be minutely faster |
| 08:40.48 | Sstixrud | I thought _G[] was a special function and was already optimized? |
| 08:41.00 | Kaso | _G is a table of all global variables |
| 08:41.18 | Sstixrud | so how would I do what you are suggesting? |
| 08:41.19 | Kaso | its a global variable, you can make it quicker to access by doing a local copy like local _G = _G |
| 08:41.36 | Sstixrud | local _G = _G ? |
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| 08:41.39 | Kaso | yes |
| 08:41.49 | Kaso | you see in lua locals are faster to access than globals |
| 08:42.04 | Kaso | so that takes a local copy of a global variable you use often |
| 08:42.25 | Kaso | make the variable scoped to your entire lua file (eg put it at the top outside of any functions) |
| 08:42.30 | Sstixrud | how would I use that for UnitBuff UnitIsFriend? |
| 08:42.43 | Kaso | same thing local UnitBuff = UnitBuff |
| 08:42.52 | Kaso | local UnitIsFriend = UnitIsFriend |
| 08:43.25 | Sstixrud | am I not already doing that? |
| 08:43.36 | Sstixrud | local unitBuffs = ubuffs[atarget] |
| 08:44.01 | Kaso | Im talking about the UnitIsFriend("player", atarget) UnitBuff(atarget, i) |
| 08:44.13 | Kaso | you're calling global functions, thats slightly slower than local copies |
| 08:44.25 | Kaso | brb a moment |
| 08:45.52 | Sstixrud | I have a "local isFriend = UnitIsFriend("player", atarget)" |
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| 08:50.00 | Kaso | that just makes a local which is the return value of the function which itself is still global |
| 08:50.48 | Sstixrud | ok =) I obviously have much to learn |
| 08:50.51 | Kaso | just throw this at the top |
| 08:50.52 | Kaso | local _G = _G; |
| 08:50.52 | Kaso | local UnitBuff = UnitBuff; |
| 08:50.52 | Kaso | local UnitIsFriend = UnitIsFriend; |
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| 08:51.23 | Sstixrud | top of what? the file or top of the UB_UnitBuff function |
| 08:51.34 | Sstixrud | I do use those in other functions |
| 08:52.12 | Kaso | the file |
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| 08:53.51 | Sstixrud | ok thanks |
| 08:53.53 | Sstixrud | anything else? |
| 08:54.56 | Kaso | nothing off the top of my head without looking at dramatic changes to the code which im too lazy to think about |
| 08:56.20 | Sstixrud | heh ok thanks :) |
| 08:57.53 | Corrodias | i know better than to think that playing a paladin well is any easier than playing a warrior well, even for the same role |
| 08:58.17 | Corrodias | even? remove that word "even". i don't know how it got there. |
| 08:59.06 | Sstixrud | I could remove the "UBVAR.DYNEVENTS[atarget].Buff[name]" if check, if I spend a good deal more code preping the tables |
| 08:59.13 | Sstixrud | not sure how expensive that is tho |
| 08:59.19 | Sstixrud | the ifcheck that is |
| 09:04.50 | Sstixrud | is this valid lua " local name, type" "name, type = xxx" |
| 09:04.58 | Tem | yes |
| 09:05.09 | Sstixrud | performance wise is it the same? |
| 09:05.17 | Sstixrud | as name = xxx and type = xxx |
| 09:05.57 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 09:06.08 | Tem | I wouldn't worry about that level of detail |
| 09:06.14 | Sstixrud | heh |
| 09:06.59 | Sstixrud | but "name, type = xxxx" is functionally the same as "name = xxx" "type = xxx" ? |
| 09:08.26 | Sstixrud | Off to bed, thanks for the help. |
| 09:12.59 | Tem | no, it's not the same |
| 09:13.06 | Tem | it's the same as name,type = xxx,xxx |
| 09:13.25 | Tem | name,type = xxx is the same as name = xxx type= nil |
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| 09:16.07 | Kaso | This is rediculous, i've had to re-build my filesystem twice in two days |
| 09:16.23 | Kaso | i suspect my hard drive might be broken |
| 09:16.24 | Corrodias | why? |
| 09:16.34 | Corrodias | i've had savedvariables mysteriously not being saved |
| 09:16.54 | Kaso | The superblock keeps spontainously getting corrupted then i cant get past the bootloader |
| 09:17.21 | Kaso | luckly i know the commands to recover the superblock from a backup superblock off by heart now |
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| 09:22.55 | Kaso | >.< |
| 09:23.00 | Kaso | i hate ext3 |
| 09:27.14 | Tem | why's that? |
| 09:32.12 | Kaso | because it's gone corrupted so many times in the past few days for me |
| 09:32.30 | Kaso | i feel like i have to restore from a backup superblock every couple times i boot up |
| 09:32.55 | Kaso | granted its prob more likely my Har drive's fault than ext3's |
| 09:32.57 | Kaso | but hey |
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| 09:48.48 | Corrodias | not sure if i want to play a warrior. tanking sounds exciting, but to level at a decent pace i'd have to spec for damage |
| 09:49.04 | Corrodias | that old problem that all warriors face |
| 09:49.14 | Corrodias | well, those that do intend to tank |
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| 11:04.45 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: would you intend to go for 60/70, or just level gradually? Most warriors just level as arms and/or fury, and until the >60 instances you'll do almost as good tanking in those specs |
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| 11:47.32 | wobin | So... |
| 11:47.38 | wobin | Where can I get the latest Dongle? |
| 11:47.53 | wobin | ~dongle |
| 11:48.00 | purl | somebody said dongle was An integrated library with the goal of providing an addon framework as lightweight as possible, putting the burden on authors to implement most things they should be implementing themselves. You can get more information at http://www.wowwiki.com/Dongle |
| 11:48.52 | wobin | =\ |
| 11:51.17 | wobin | no link to download? |
| 11:54.18 | wobin | Anybunny? |
| 11:56.07 | bleetah | me looks at http://code.google.com/p/dongle/downloads/list and shrugs |
| 11:57.05 | bleetah | and shrugs some more |
| 11:58.21 | wobin | hah, ta =) |
| 11:58.31 | wobin | no link to that, that I could see =P |
| 11:58.45 | bleetah | prolly 'coz there's no release yet :P |
| 11:59.23 | bleetah | ie, i'd almost lay money on the documented API not being implemented in the SVN yet... that's just based on my experience with seeing new opensource projects.. many times the API's up well behind anything in SVN |
| 12:00.44 | bleetah | p.s. only found that URL by googling for it ;) |
| 12:00.44 | wobin | hehe |
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| 14:00.47 | haste | You aren't! |
| 14:00.47 | wobin | So. |
| 14:00.47 | wobin | Uh. Why does "Wowwiki have a problem"? |
| 14:00.47 | wobin | oh. |
| 14:00.47 | wobin | well it -did- =P |
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| 14:00.48 | Kaso | wobin, you havent been viewing wowwiki much lately? |
| 14:00.48 | Kaso | its being having problems like that for months |
| 14:01.50 | wobin | I only just noticed that banner =) |
| 14:01.50 | wobin | And it disappeared =P |
| 14:01.51 | Kaso | Yah its be sporadically spazzing out for months |
| 14:02.37 | Kaso | sometimes it just diverts you to main page, others you just get the problem line at the top, sometimes you get a white error page |
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| 14:07.46 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all ! |
| 14:08.06 | YammYgirlcoding | what's the command to call a macro via slash calling it name? does it exist ? |
| 14:08.20 | YammYgirlcoding | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.40 | Kaso | Im not sure you can directly run a macro like that |
| 14:08.47 | YammYgirlcoding | ah can't ? :((((( |
| 14:08.48 | Kaso | you can do /click on the action button the macro is on |
| 14:09.12 | YammYgirlcoding | i dont have any slot free to add the macro on |
| 14:09.37 | YammYgirlcoding | clicking the icon on the macro window do nothing. so i wondered if I could call it by slash |
| 14:09.49 | Kaso | You have 120 actions/macros? |
| 14:10.00 | nevcairiel | you dont? :) |
| 14:10.04 | nevcairiel | j/k :) |
| 14:10.19 | Kaso | i think i prob have about 50 or 60 of my buttons used most |
| 14:10.32 | YammYgirlcoding | i have all action bars used |
| 14:10.53 | nevcairiel | i have 2 free bars |
| 14:11.00 | nevcairiel | being a druid with shapeshifting et al |
| 14:11.36 | Kaso | Im pretty sure there would be some free action IDs, but the only other case would you'd need to start creating your own secure buttons to play around with |
| 14:12.10 | nevcairiel | yeah you can attach the macro code directly to a secure button |
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| 14:12.17 | nevcairiel | without action ids |
| 14:12.21 | nevcairiel | if you really use all 120 :) |
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| 14:15.06 | YammYgirlcoding | i use all |
| 14:15.13 | YammYgirlcoding | have u ever had a lock before? :) |
| 14:15.31 | YammYgirlcoding | whats a secure button? |
| 14:16.06 | Kaso | Secure buttons are slighty scary code stuff |
| 14:16.44 | wobin | >< |
| 14:17.00 | wobin | bloody secure buttons =( |
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| 14:25.29 | Kaso | YammYgirlcoding, im not 100% sure on this, given that i've never used secure frames before, but from what i can tell on WoWWiki if you do this http://pastey.net/7243 it might have the effect you want |
| 14:26.00 | Kaso | Im not sure how "substantial" so to say a button has to be to be used with Click |
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| 14:34.33 | YammYgirlcoding | okey .lets see :) |
| 14:36.30 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm i would still have to have a macro button to click |
| 14:36.46 | Kaso | hm? |
| 14:36.46 | YammYgirlcoding | thing is - have no more slots free for buttons :) |
| 14:37.04 | Kaso | that code creates a new button which executes one of the macros when clicked |
| 14:37.05 | YammYgirlcoding | this secure thing you said. I'd still need a button on actions to be clicked |
| 14:37.21 | nevcairiel | buttons can directly be macros |
| 14:37.26 | nevcairiel | without being a action-button |
| 14:37.46 | YammYgirlcoding | but i'd still need the macro button at action, right? |
| 14:38.46 | Kaso | That code, allows you to execute another macro within an existing macro, without having to have that macro anywhere but on the macro screen |
| 14:39.00 | Kaso | well it should lord knows if i did it right |
| 14:39.58 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm when i click the macro button, nothing happens. this secure thing will make the button clickable inside macro frame? |
| 14:40.25 | Kaso | no |
| 14:40.35 | nevcairiel | no, it will create a completly new button, which is clickable |
| 14:40.47 | nevcairiel | and which executes your macro |
| 14:41.15 | Kaso | well, i havent specified any attributes of the button so it wont be clickable in the traditional sense, (i think) but you can still use it for /click |
| 14:41.18 | Kaso | I hope |
| 14:41.33 | Kaso | as i say im no expert on secure secure buttons and whatnot |
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| 15:51.09 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. you know any site that tell me what recipes the master tailor have? Cause thot and alakhazan don't say anything. |
| 15:52.11 | Kaso | http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.197 ? |
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| 15:52.46 | YammYgirlcoding | no. I mean. What recipes the specific trainer have |
| 15:53.24 | sysrage | thott does have that information |
| 15:53.25 | YammYgirlcoding | dalinna, its her name. thot and alak don't say any info about |
| 15:53.31 | pastamancer | Antiarc|Work: is there a beta of sanity2 somewhere? I'm really looking forward to the queries |
| 15:53.47 | Antiarc|Work | SanityBags, you mean? |
| 15:53.55 | Antiarc|Work | Sanity2 just does straight text searches |
| 15:54.04 | Antiarc|Work | (and is available at http://wowace.com/files/Sanity2) |
| 15:54.04 | pastamancer | I guess then |
| 15:54.06 | Kaso | YammYgirlcoding, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18749 shows what she tains |
| 15:54.21 | Antiarc|Work | Not really. I have an unofficial unsupported alpha out which contains a couple of blockers |
| 15:54.27 | Antiarc|Work | But I haven't had time to work on it lately. |
| 15:54.59 | Antiarc|Work | My guildies are pushing me hard to finish it though :) |
| 15:56.25 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaso !! great!! just what I wanted! thank you very much darling! :D |
| 15:57.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | wow can girls code ? |
| 16:00.37 | zenzelezz | no reason why they shouldn't |
| 16:02.05 | cogwheel | I think "wow girls code?" is a more correct question than "wow girls /can/ code?" |
| 16:04.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | hehe oke i was wondering doesnt this http://www.wowwiki.com/API_AcceptTrade require a user input ? |
| 16:04.58 | cogwheel | i think so |
| 16:06.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | and does sending mails require an input ? |
| 16:06.13 | cogwheel | no |
| 16:06.27 | cogwheel | hence ctmailmod |
| 16:07.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke since im looking for a way of sending money to other players whitout an input (no not to myzelf :P) |
| 16:09.38 | nevcairiel | an addon which sends 10c everytime someone visits a mailbox |
| 16:09.42 | nevcairiel | evil plan that can make me rich! |
| 16:09.43 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:09.59 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 16:10.10 | Kaso | Im sure cide mentioned about adding that to CT_RA one time, i hope he was joking |
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| 16:10.17 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:10.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | hehe neh im thiknig of a sort of illagal small game where ppl cna bid whit ingame money but it needs tobe send to the other players ofc :P |
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| 16:11.15 | Kaso | tsk tsk |
| 16:14.48 | MentalPower | |FF|Im2good4u: I *strongly* encourage you to not pursue that endeavour. In the past Blizzard has responded to things like that with disabling of API. You'll have a lot of angry developers (and users) on your ass if the mail sending API is changed so that it requires user input. |
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| 16:32.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | MentalPower: hmm yeh thats indeed a bad side effect.. |
| 16:33.12 | Kaso | What every you do dont put it up on the any og the big sites i'd say |
| 16:33.19 | Kaso | though im not sure which would take it |
| 16:33.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | apart from that the mail api isnt verry usefull either since ppl will be able to walk away from the mailbox to pevent the money beeying send |
| 16:33.22 | Kaso | pretty sure wowi wouldnt |
| 16:34.14 | MentalPower | If you create it, Blizzard *will* find out and *will* disable API |
| 16:34.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | Yeh |
| 16:34.30 | MentalPower | They've done it in the past and will not hesitate to do it again |
| 16:34.33 | zenzelezz | if you create it, someone will tell them to be more specific |
| 16:34.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | well i just won a poker tourney lastnite and got a bit over exited :P |
| 16:35.15 | Kaso | I think Cairenn would like the classes attention children |
| 16:35.52 | Cairenn | no, I was pointing out that you can be damn sure Blizz would find out about it, because I *would* tell them |
| 16:36.08 | Kaso | ah |
| 16:36.11 | Kaso | i see :> |
| 16:36.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | Poker is verry nice but whitout beeying abl to bet money :P or anything anything at all |
| 16:36.32 | Cairenn | there are some things that can be overlooked (and have been) and some things that just shouldn't be |
| 16:37.37 | |FF|Im2good4u | the other posabilety is to use the trade api whit some dialog "are u sure u wana bid 1g ?" Y/N |
| 16:38.23 | nevcairiel | you know that those games at all are illegal, and not only the api usage ? :) |
| 16:38.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dunno i gues it is in some country's |
| 16:38.43 | zenzelezz | I'm reminded of this comic strip: http://www.gucomics.com/comics/gu_20050221.jpg |
| 16:38.45 | nevcairiel | its in WoW. |
| 16:39.02 | Kaso | blizzard have a strict "no casinos" policy |
| 16:39.03 | nevcairiel | there was some article about some guy who tried to get a Bingo game running. |
| 16:39.11 | nevcairiel | was quite funny actually |
| 16:39.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol |
| 16:40.42 | Kaso | Our server had some "raffles" during AQ war where you'd get tickets for supplies, not sure about now legal they are but then again we're on EU so the day someone gets banned for anything is long off |
| 16:40.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | however blizzard rules are nice if they where able to keep them up since i get realy annoyed by gold sellers >.< |
| 16:42.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | back in the day there were guys running ingame casinos with the /roll system |
| 16:42.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and blizard jumped all over them |
| 16:42.40 | Cairenn | yup, they did |
| 16:43.00 | Cairenn | they made announcements (I can go digging if you want) stating that they flat out aren't allowed |
| 16:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | because it's more work to deal with the natural corruptness associated with it than to just say "you do it, and you're banned" |
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| 16:52.20 | Cairenn | new avatar for you guys to have to put up with |
| 16:52.31 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 16:52.32 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?u=6 |
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| 16:53.08 | zenzelezz | nice; but why change? |
| 16:53.15 | Cairenn | why not? |
| 16:56.23 | Bouvi | OMG Cairenn!!!! DROOL |
| 16:56.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | nightelfs are sexiest |
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| 16:56.56 | Cairenn | Bouvi: so she'll do? ;) |
| 17:00.45 | Bouvi | In a word. Yes |
| 17:02.21 | Cairenn | http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/images/avatars/Generic/Reisha_The_Elf_by_RafM.jpg is the fullsized |
| 17:03.46 | Cairenn | was looking around for something last night, saw her and went "omg, the boys would just love that", so asked the artist for permission and viola |
| 17:03.58 | Cairenn | she is HOT |
| 17:04.03 | Kaso | i think this one is better http://cairenn.eqinterface.com/sigs/FunnyCair.gif |
| 17:04.10 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:04.17 | zenzelezz | she's not bad |
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| 17:07.00 | sysrage | wow that's a high quality image |
| 17:07.33 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 17:07.47 | Cairenn | presuming you are talking about the funny one |
| 17:08.30 | sysrage | ya |
| 17:08.39 | Cairenn | *snicker* |
| 17:08.58 | Cairenn | we had a guy that made silly ones like that for everyone in our alliance of guilds, they were fun |
| 17:09.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | that elf is a blood elf >.< |
| 17:10.24 | Cairenn | that elf is a generic elf, using her for my avatar on all the sites |
| 17:10.39 | Cairenn | since Cairenn is always an elf archer, whatever game |
| 17:10.51 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 17:11.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | well no normal elfs are green, night elfs are burple, blood / high elfs are humen skin color only blood elfs got red hair |
| 17:11.35 | ChrisD | Question: is there a way to execute a lua function from a macro? |
| 17:11.51 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.51 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:12.11 | cogwheel | don't listen to nevcairiel :P |
| 17:12.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | i though u could use any lua funtion in a macro lol silleh me |
| 17:12.47 | nevcairiel | all the fun one wont work |
| 17:12.50 | nevcairiel | so a general no |
| 17:12.51 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:12.58 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: that's not true |
| 17:13.06 | cogwheel | anything you can call in an addon, you can call in a macro |
| 17:13.13 | ChrisD | Basically I'd like to have an SCT message pop up x seconds after casting a spell. |
| 17:13.19 | nevcairiel | i didnt say the fun one work in addons. |
| 17:13.29 | ChrisD | Seems like it'd be pretty simple. |
| 17:13.30 | nevcairiel | stupid s |
| 17:13.59 | cogwheel | saying "no" is misleading |
| 17:14.04 | nevcairiel | yeah that will work ChrisD |
| 17:14.08 | cogwheel | since what ChrisD wants is entirely possible |
| 17:14.18 | ChrisD | Do I need to use a Chronos function? |
| 17:14.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | nu cant put up a delay |
| 17:14.32 | cogwheel | use AfterCast |
| 17:14.51 | ChrisD | I don't wanna install a big addon for all this. I'd think I could cram it all into a macro. :) |
| 17:15.10 | cogwheel | it's not a big addon |
| 17:15.21 | ChrisD | Why install an addon with something I can do in one line of code in a macro? :P |
| 17:15.38 | cogwheel | because you can't do a delay in one line of code in a macro |
| 17:16.29 | ChrisD | if I'm only calling one other line of code, it'd seem like I could, no? |
| 17:16.30 | ChrisD | something like |
| 17:16.50 | cogwheel | in fact a combo between aftercast and chronos would be perfect. /aftercast /in 5 /run whateverSCTfunction() |
| 17:16.57 | ChrisD | /cast Fear Ward ; /run Chronos.delay(30, SCT_Display(msg,{r=.2,g=.7,b=.9}) |
| 17:16.59 | ChrisD | or whatever |
| 17:17.24 | cogwheel | and chronos isn't a "big addon"? :P |
| 17:17.32 | ChrisD | well i already have chronos :) |
| 17:17.33 | nevcairiel | he prolly runs it already anyway :D |
| 17:17.37 | ChrisD | since so much else relies on it |
| 17:18.07 | ChrisD | ah, this looks simple.. |
| 17:18.52 | ChrisD | /run Chronos.schedule(30, SCT_Display, "hi mom, 30 seconds have gone by", {r=.2,g=.7,b=.9}) |
| 17:18.56 | ChrisD | and done? |
| 17:19.16 | nevcairiel | if thats chronos syntax, sure |
| 17:19.39 | ChrisD | yep, worked! :)~ |
| 17:19.42 | ChrisD | that was easy enough. :p |
| 17:19.59 | ChrisD | now if I want, I can schedule a couple chronos items, like a PlaySound... and I'm all set. |
| 17:20.07 | ChrisD | my first "mod". :)~ |
| 17:20.41 | cogwheel | fyi: that'll go off whether your spell succeeds or not |
| 17:21.03 | ChrisD | Hm, that's a problem.. I can't really spam it. |
| 17:21.13 | cogwheel | hence my suggestion of AfterCast |
| 17:21.17 | ChrisD | Otherwise I'll get the spam right back x seconds later. |
| 17:21.24 | ChrisD | Bah, error checking! |
| 17:21.28 | ChrisD | Ok, I'll look into it. :) |
| 17:22.05 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.46 | ChrisD | you win - aftercast looks like just what i need.. i was assuming aftercast was (another) bloated mod to put bars up on my screen, numbers on my icons, yadda yadda |
| 17:26.46 | cogwheel | so you simply didn't believe me when I said "it's not a big addon"? |
| 17:27.23 | ChrisD | more or less. no offense but everyone seems to have an addon pushing agenda.. everyone seems to think that their addon set is the best (for everyone, not just themselves) |
| 17:27.29 | Cairenn | it's by Iriel ... it'll never be bloated |
| 17:27.35 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 17:27.44 | cogwheel | you must be thinking of a different irc channel |
| 17:28.16 | Cairenn | that too |
| 17:28.29 | ChrisD | [09:13:58] <gdb> ChrisD: NECB is all you need for everything. |
| 17:28.29 | ChrisD | [09:14:09] <gdb> ChrisD: Natur Enemy Cast Bars |
| 17:28.35 | ChrisD | [09:00:54] <@Hobinheim|work> bongos + omni cc = HUGE VISIBLE COOLDOWN |
| 17:28.40 | ChrisD | [09:00:14] <@Hobinheim|work> or get omni cc |
| 17:28.40 | ChrisD | [09:00:16] <@Hobinheim|work> i'm serious |
| 17:28.52 | ChrisD | etc etc |
| 17:29.11 | Cairenn | that's a wiki channel, this is a channel for mod authors |
| 17:29.21 | Cairenn | this isn't an "end user" channel |
| 17:30.13 | ChrisD | This is my kind of mod, btw. |
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| 17:30.18 | ChrisD | It's like a unix program. |
| 17:30.29 | ChrisD | Tiny, contained, simple, well documented... What else could you ask for? |
| 17:30.40 | JoshBorke | pie |
| 17:30.42 | JoshBorke | or cookies |
| 17:30.53 | ChrisD | How about a cookie pie? |
| 17:31.07 | JoshBorke | oh man, cookie cakes are great! |
| 17:31.12 | Cairenn | purl, give JoshBorke a cookie |
| 17:31.22 | purl | ACTION gives JoshBorke a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up. |
| 17:31.22 | JoshBorke | so are cookie pies |
| 17:31.22 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 17:31.23 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Cairenn and suddenly hugs Cairenn tightly |
| 17:31.24 | JoshBorke | i got a 110 on my first test today :-Dh |
| 17:31.38 | JoshBorke | i done deserved that cookie :-D |
| 17:31.54 | Cairenn | congrats on the test JoshBorke |
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| 17:37.18 | ChrisD | aftercast is incompatible. :S |
| 17:38.00 | AnduinLothar | there's a 2.0 version on wowi |
| 17:38.00 | AnduinLothar | you can just comment out the errors and it mostly works |
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| 17:38.17 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4167-AfterCast.html |
| 17:38.38 | ChrisD | Thanks. |
| 17:38.55 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 17:38.57 | purl | I never knew anyone who went crazy before, except for my invisible friend, Col. Schwartz. |
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| 17:56.13 | ChrisD | ok so now... ideas needed. |
| 17:56.27 | ChrisD | I got aftercast, and here's my new fear ward macro (for a successful cast): |
| 17:56.38 | ChrisD | /aftercast /script SendChatMessage("You will know no fear...", "WHISPER", "Common", UnitName("target")) |
| 17:56.50 | ChrisD | Works fine, except when I have no target. :P |
| 17:57.02 | ChrisD | Any way to error check that? |
| 17:57.13 | ChrisD | or... put some conditional logic in the macro? |
| 17:57.21 | ChrisD | Or does it all have to be done in a lua function. |
| 17:57.31 | Kaso | ./script if UnitName("target") then SendChat.... end |
| 17:57.45 | ChrisD | cool, thanks |
| 17:58.34 | Kaso | btw i hope you got that the SendChat.... meant i was too lazy too out the rest, dont just type that directly ;> |
| 17:58.42 | ChrisD | yes, of course. |
| 17:58.54 | ChrisD | :) |
| 17:59.57 | ChrisD | /aftercast /script if UnitName("target") then SendChatMessage("You will know no fear...", "WHISPER", "Common", UnitName("target")) end |
| 17:59.59 | ChrisD | works perfect. |
| 18:00.01 | ChrisD | Thanks. :) |
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| 18:11.04 | Kevorkian | which josh is the real josh? joshborke or josh_borke? |
| 18:11.08 | Cairenn | yes |
| 18:11.17 | Kevorkian | you people and your tricky answers |
| 18:11.45 | Kevorkian | josh, ya there dude? |
| 18:11.49 | JoshBorke | oh, i'm here |
| 18:11.56 | JoshBorke | sorry, wasn't watching |
| 18:12.12 | JoshBorke | hiya Kevorkian, ltns |
| 18:17.37 | ChrisD | Can I have a .lua and .toc with some floating global functions? |
| 18:17.47 | JoshBorke | toc has no variables |
| 18:17.50 | ChrisD | I want to basically write a lua function, and call it from a macro. |
| 18:18.00 | Kaso | yah thats perfectly fine |
| 18:18.07 | ChrisD | Right but I mean a .toc that has one item, a .lua in it, with nothing but functions. |
| 18:18.15 | Kaso | yes |
| 18:18.18 | Kaso | no problem |
| 18:18.19 | ChrisD | Hm.. |
| 18:19.08 | ChrisD | So my lua file has: |
| 18:19.10 | ChrisD | function DiabsFunctions_afterFear() |
| 18:19.16 | ChrisD | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.17 | ChrisD | end |
| 18:19.34 | ChrisD | And my macro is calling it with /run DiabsFunctions_afterFear() |
| 18:19.37 | ChrisD | Wrong? |
| 18:19.44 | ChrisD | /script? /run? |
| 18:19.47 | Kaso | Thats perfectly fine :> |
| 18:19.52 | Kaso | script and run are the same |
| 18:20.09 | ChrisD | It's bombing: attempt to call global 'DiabsFunctiosn_afterFear' (a nil value) |
| 18:20.29 | Kaso | show your whole toc content on pastey.net |
| 18:20.33 | ChrisD | k |
| 18:21.08 | ChrisD | http://pastey.net/7254 |
| 18:21.21 | ChrisD | lines 6 through 10 delineate the files. |
| 18:21.27 | Corrodias | WOOOOOOW dot pastey |
| 18:22.01 | Kaso | have you restarted the game since you created the toc/lua file(fully?) |
| 18:22.10 | ChrisD | i've /console reloadui'd |
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| 18:22.15 | Kaso | restart the game |
| 18:22.17 | ChrisD | k. |
| 18:22.19 | Kaso | Corrodias whatcha blabbing about |
| 18:22.56 | Corrodias | wow.pastey |
| 18:22.58 | Corrodias | duh |
| 18:23.31 | Kaso | more charaters, same effect |
| 18:23.33 | Kaso | im lazy# |
| 18:23.39 | Corrodias | when you modify a .toc file, you have to logout and relogin for wow to read it |
| 18:23.50 | Corrodias | when you add new files, i think you may have to restart the game entirely |
| 18:23.59 | pastamancer | Corrodias: correct |
| 18:24.05 | ChrisD | i see.. i guess i thought reloadui would pick it up. |
| 18:24.10 | ChrisD | Works fine now! Thanks for the help. |
| 18:24.14 | Corrodias | reloadui will pick up .lua changes |
| 18:24.25 | Kaso | or xml |
| 18:24.40 | Corrodias | gasp! yes. |
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| 18:53.43 | qw` | hehe http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=192159222&sid=1 |
| 18:56.05 | Elkano | *rofl* |
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| 19:13.08 | sysrage | they suspended him for that? that's lame |
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| 19:46.44 | [dRaCo] | That's one of the most stupid posts ever, he deserves a lifetime ban |
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| 19:47.35 | Tingle | hi |
| 19:47.41 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 19:47.54 | Tingle | got a question about cartographer |
| 19:48.21 | Tingle | where does it save the gathered data...? i cant seem to find it |
| 19:48.34 | Tingle | quest and quest objectives |
| 19:49.07 | Malivil | Cartographer.lua in the SavedVariables maybe? |
| 19:49.35 | Malivil | I dunno, but thats my guess |
| 19:50.14 | Elkano | cartographer_quest.lua in SV? |
| 19:50.45 | Tingle | gotit ^^ |
| 19:50.45 | Elkano | at least mining/herbalism store it in ther own addon SV files |
| 19:51.08 | Tingle | does anyone have or know where i cn ge a rather complete or large database of that stuff |
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| 19:53.57 | Tingle | ?? |
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| 19:55.20 | JoshBorke | ?? |
| 19:56.03 | Tingle | does anyone have or know a place where i can get a rather large/complete cartographer_quests.lua or quest objective ?? |
| 19:56.26 | JoshBorke | from someone you ask really nicely that already has them? (ie no one) |
| 19:56.43 | Tingle | ie? |
| 19:56.51 | JoshBorke | ie = for example |
| 19:57.12 | Tingle | mmm |
| 19:58.56 | Tingle | i dont suppose there would be a db on the net to downlaod :P? |
| 19:59.17 | JoshBorke | nope |
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| 20:27.30 | Kevorkian | are DBs like what tingle asked for against the EULA or just against convention? |
| 20:27.47 | Kaso | its debatable |
| 20:28.07 | Kevorkian | which part? EULA? |
| 20:28.30 | Kaso | the eula has some clauses about "data mining" but im not really sure how enforced they are, otherwise thottbot and the like would be under the same header |
| 20:29.24 | Kevorkian | that was my thought as well |
| 20:29.50 | Kaso | I think its a case of a technicality, rather than enforced rule |
| 20:31.40 | Kevorkian | so if somebody wanted to create an open database that might perhaps cross the line of "We know you're doing it but so long as you don't spread it everywhere we'll look the other way" threshhold? |
| 20:32.39 | Kaso | Well there has been databases for lootlink and gatherer in the past |
| 20:32.43 | Kaso | not sure what became of them |
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| 20:33.40 | sysrage | lootlink one is still out there |
| 20:37.34 | Kevorkian | I wonder if the problem is more maintaining the data or the fact that the data is there |
| 20:40.21 | Kaso | what do you mean? |
| 20:41.28 | Kevorkian | well, data like that would depend heavily on submissions |
| 20:41.49 | bleetah | i think as thott/alla etc. still involve a little bit of brainwork (eg, actually finding the loot/mob/npc), whereas a theoretical ingame DB could pretty much do everything to point you to the specific place you need to go, therefore removing the 'spirit' of the game to a large extent |
| 20:42.01 | Kevorkian | unless you jigger something to autoupload like roster |
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| 20:42.53 | bleetah | lets say, sure the mob is at 40,40 on the loch modan map according to thott, but one still needs to work out how to get there, wheras an ingame DB could have waypoints, the works, so it takes no brainwork at all |
| 20:42.54 | Kevorkian | bleetah: to a degree ya |
| 20:42.58 | ben__ | How'd I go about hooking a method so that it is called after the GameTooltip has an item set to display? hooksecurefunc seems to call my function like eight times which is seven times to much. |
| 20:43.30 | Kaso | ben__ how do you mean item set? |
| 20:43.40 | ben__ | Like, uh, when I mouseover an item. |
| 20:43.47 | ben__ | Then the gametooltip gets told to display stuff about that item. |
| 20:43.56 | ben__ | Item as in gear, potions, whatever. |
| 20:43.58 | Kaso | set a script handler for OnTooltipSetItem |
| 20:44.10 | ben__ | Thanks |
| 20:44.23 | Kaso | im not sure if that is the exact correct name |
| 20:44.26 | Kaso | lemme check |
| 20:44.33 | Kevorkian | bleetah: I'm not sure where I'm going with the question incidentally, I don't necessarily wish to spoon feed folks doing quests, but on the other hand it'd be nice to have a central database for addons that aid with quests in some regard |
| 20:45.19 | Kevorkian | perhaps just a search tool in game would be adequate, listing quest name, quest mob and zone that lets you search by level/faction |
| 20:45.57 | ben__ | Seems to be it, thanks. |
| 20:46.01 | Kevorkian | I know the first few times through my 40s I would have killed for that |
| 20:46.31 | Kaso | ben__ , remeber other addons can set scripts onto that handler too so you need to do it in a "hook" ish manner, eg local old = GameTooltip:GetScript("OnTooltipSetItem ") GameTooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipSetItem",function(...) DoStuff() old(...) end) |
| 20:46.54 | zenzelezz | I think people should be forced to get to 60/70 without out-of-game or addon help :- |
| 20:46.55 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 20:47.03 | zenzelezz | for their first char that is |
| 20:47.11 | bleetah | *personally*, I think a personal quest tracker would be fine. ie, toon #1's done the quest, so this info could be available to toon #2. I mean to say, I could quite easily manually write everything down that toon #1 does, and just 'replay' the written word when I play toon #2. There'd probably be a reasonable argument that this info should be shared to your guild and party, but outside of that I feel it'd really fall into datamining t |
| 20:48.06 | bleetah | zenzelezz: witness how almost every 'hardcore' player turned into a jibbering noob when BC hit 'coz there were no mods, no info on thott. I agree with you to a large extent.. truly sort out the idiots from the smart ones ;) |
| 20:48.33 | Kevorkian | shrug, I'm pretty hardcore, I enjoyed the heck out of discovering the new areas |
| 20:48.41 | ben__ | Kaso: Well, it still gets called way too often. Apparently SetItem happens over and over? |
| 20:48.47 | zenzelezz | bleetah: :) |
| 20:48.48 | Kaso | oh |
| 20:48.49 | Kevorkian | but I also know i've missed tons of quests |
| 20:49.15 | Kaso | ben__ then Gametooltip is updated every 1/2 sec for Inventory, incase it has a cooldown |
| 20:49.22 | Kaso | you have to work around it |
| 20:49.50 | ben__ | Okay |
| 20:51.08 | Kaso | How is that a problem for you? |
| 20:51.16 | ben__ | Well, I am adding text to the tooltip. |
| 20:51.32 | ben__ | It gets added multiple times. |
| 20:51.51 | Kaso | Each time OnTooltipSetItem is called the tooltip should have been refreshed thus your text should only appear once |
| 20:53.44 | bleetah | oO new instance announced in Under Dev |
| 20:53.55 | bleetah | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
| 20:54.19 | Kaso | that was there the other night |
| 20:54.24 | Kaso | before it was swiftly removed |
| 20:54.30 | bleetah | hehe |
| 20:54.59 | bleetah | yeah, the date on the home page says 23 Feb, but I'm sure I didn't see it back then |
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| 20:56.37 | scotepi | hello, how can i strfind(msg, '%w') where %w is actuly %w? |
| 20:56.43 | seebs | "%w" |
| 20:56.46 | seebs | Argh. |
| 20:56.50 | seebs | "%%w" |
| 20:56.54 | scotepi | k |
| 20:57.18 | scotepi | thanks |
| 21:01.27 | bleetah | Kevorkian: for what it's worth, I find the combination of the standalone program 'Cartographe', plus wowhead, suit me for 99% of my needs anyways. That cartographe is standalone therefore works offline is it's strong point. |
| 21:01.36 | bleetah | there's some downsides to it, but it's quite handy |
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| 21:38.09 | scotepi | Cide: is the old CT Download page comming back? if it is, it would be realy nice if it saved you're last download set or even had a notice at the top of whats new since youre last download |
| 21:38.37 | bleetah | dolby-wowi: any news on last-modified headers for WoWI downloads? |
| 21:39.59 | dolby-wowi | not yet, tried them for a bit but must have ad something wrong as a good deal of people where having their browsers not download and pull an older file from cache when they would try to download a new version of a file |
| 21:40.12 | dolby-wowi | moved on to re-writeing the search script |
| 21:40.19 | dolby-wowi | will go back to it later |
| 21:40.31 | bleetah | rightio :) yar, I can appreciate a search re-write is a little more important ;) |
| 21:42.17 | Cairenn | there ya go guys, had dolby-wowi turn the avatars back on on the front page, now you can go drool easier |
| 21:42.36 | AnduinLothar | yay |
| 21:42.45 | bleetah | oO |
| 21:43.02 | bleetah | wtb: bucket-o-drool |
| 21:43.08 | bleetah | er.. wts.. damnit |
| 21:43.38 | Drool | mmm |
| 21:43.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:43.47 | Cide | scotepi: new dl's page is not coming back, no - it's too cpu intensive |
| 21:44.02 | bleetah | Drool: now, you gotta ask yerself... do ya feel lucky? ;) |
| 21:44.11 | AnduinLothar | ha cide, that's liek what peopel were always wanting from cosmos. a DL page liek CT |
| 21:44.30 | Drool | :) |
| 21:44.36 | bleetah | rss feeds ftw! |
| 21:44.48 | AnduinLothar | already got rss |
| 21:45.01 | bleetah | yar, I know.. I even put it on planet-warcraft.com :-) |
| 21:45.20 | AnduinLothar | oh right, all these names, i forget who people ar |
| 21:45.31 | bleetah | at least, I think I did.. I remember first time I went to put it on I was getting the new forum posts thread |
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| 21:46.38 | Cide | AnduinLothar: yeah, it was fairly nice |
| 21:46.45 | Cide | but dynamically creating zip files is expensive |
| 21:46.57 | AnduinLothar | ya we used the same excuse |
| 21:47.20 | Cide | we started caching them but then there was something like 22 million combinations total |
| 21:47.28 | Cide | so not much point in that |
| 21:47.31 | AnduinLothar | i believe it and ours is bigger |
| 21:47.36 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:48.02 | AnduinLothar | eisier jsut to offer a handful fo common combinations and individuals |
| 21:49.02 | Kaso | surely the optimal combination would to pre-compile the most commonly choosen packages then dynamically create the others on the rare occasions when theyre requested? |
| 21:49.20 | AnduinLothar | no so rare |
| 21:49.36 | scotepi | i havent looked at the zip format any any other archive format but is there a way to just join them together? like ReadFile(CT_Core.zip); ReadFile(CR_RA.zip); |
| 21:50.14 | scotepi | and then sent that to the users browser... with just header oct/stream or whatever it is |
| 21:50.53 | AnduinLothar | not afaik |
| 21:51.13 | bleetah | you could append them in a .tar, but not as .zip |
| 21:51.16 | AnduinLothar | easier to jsut have a dler |
| 21:51.21 | bleetah | in theory, at least |
| 21:51.42 | Karrion | scotepi: nope, zip has its index at the end of file, so concatenation won't work |
| 21:51.46 | bleetah | but then the user would have to decompress the .tar, then the .zips |
| 21:52.04 | bleetah | whether .7z offers something like that, I have no idea tho |
| 21:52.22 | scotepi | who wants to write a compression standard!!!! |
| 21:52.43 | AnduinLothar | too manys tandards already |
| 21:52.51 | Karrion | tar+bzip2 > all ;-) |
| 21:53.05 | bleetah | nah, 7z > bz2+tar :P |
| 21:53.11 | scotepi | im still 50/50 on bzip2 or gzip |
| 21:53.21 | Kaso | well untill other formats get included into windows we'll be stuck with zip i think |
| 21:53.38 | scotepi | why are so many damn addons released as rars >< |
| 21:55.24 | AnduinLothar | i hate rar |
| 21:55.24 | scotepi | lets use ISO's!!! |
| 21:55.24 | scotepi | or DMG!!! |
| 21:55.24 | AnduinLothar | lol dmg |
| 21:55.25 | scotepi | dmg has realy good compresion |
| 21:55.25 | Karrion | we should update mods using apt-get >.> |
| 21:55.25 | TC_Working | http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=4&pgno=3 |
| 21:55.25 | AnduinLothar | lol commandline |
| 21:55.25 | scotepi | i hate apt-get.. emerge FTW!!! |
| 21:55.25 | scotepi | svn |
| 21:55.25 | AnduinLothar | liek i said, write a patcher |
| 21:55.25 | Scre3m | how can you hate apt-get? |
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| 21:55.26 | scotepi | doesnt curse have one? |
| 21:55.26 | Scre3m | (i love emerge, too) |
| 21:55.26 | scotepi | over complicated |
| 21:55.26 | TC_Working | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_archivers |
| 21:55.38 | Scre3m | apt-get install app |
| 21:55.38 | Scre3m | done |
| 21:55.38 | scotepi | emerge <package> all you need |
| 21:55.51 | Scre3m | *blinks |
| 21:55.54 | scotepi | most poeple do -av though |
| 21:56.03 | TC_Working | boo @ verbose |
| 21:56.14 | scotepi | not that kind of verbose |
| 21:56.20 | bleetah | scotepi: as an OSS author, the number of gentoo users I've seen screw their system over by emerge without really understanding what's going on.. causes more headaches for upstream code providers than any other single class of user |
| 21:56.24 | scotepi | just prints build paramiters |
| 21:56.36 | bleetah | and for that reason alone, it's terrible ;) |
| 21:56.37 | Scre3m | ermege i like, gentoo is way beyond me |
| 21:56.51 | Scre3m | apt-get i like, debian (ubuntu) i like |
| 21:57.05 | bleetah | apt is a pretty fine system |
| 21:57.09 | scotepi | if you dont compile it, its not linux |
| 21:57.39 | scotepi | *true linux |
| 21:58.17 | bleetah | so, I can get all the binary gnu stuff, that's fine, but I have to compile the kernel myself |
| 21:58.18 | bleetah | ? |
| 21:59.04 | scotepi | in my expericane binarys are about 1/2 as fast as custom builds |
| 21:59.53 | bleetah | if funroll-loops.org were responding, I'd point you at it |
| 22:00.37 | scotepi | also most distros come with tons of extra crap they never tell you about... gentoo you build 99% of the stuff so you know whats in there |
| 22:01.09 | kergoth | and with debian you start with a 25 meg base install and apt-get install waht you need. |
| 22:01.14 | AnduinLothar | custom OSs aren't for everyone |
| 22:01.16 | kergoth | similar deal, similar advantage |
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| 22:02.10 | kergoth | meh |
| 22:07.05 | kergoth | :P |
| 22:07.07 | kergoth | hrm |
| 22:07.24 | kergoth | purl: entertain me |
| 22:07.53 | zenzelezz | I'm not a very good Linuxer... installed Slackware and never tried any other |
| 22:07.57 | [dRaCo] | purl, dance |
| 22:07.58 | purl | ACTION <("<) <('_')> (>")> Dance Kirby Dance! |
| 22:08.16 | kergoth | ~emulate brian |
| 22:08.17 | purl | Hey, Peter, it's seven o'clock and you've still got your pants on. What's the occassion? |
| 22:08.24 | scotepi | C&C3 Demo out |
| 22:08.26 | scotepi | w00ts |
| 22:08.30 | AnduinLothar | oh? |
| 22:08.32 | TC_Working | yea |
| 22:08.36 | AnduinLothar | any good? |
| 22:08.43 | scotepi | 1.2gb |
| 22:08.49 | TC_Working | i D/L'd it last night but it didnt unlock before i had to leave for work |
| 22:08.53 | TC_Working | :( |
| 22:09.01 | AnduinLothar | Need |
| 22:10.41 | AnduinLothar | where from is the dl? |
| 22:10.49 | scotepi | fileplanet |
| 22:11.01 | scotepi | but im sure minninova or iso hunt has it by now |
| 22:11.02 | TC_Working | what scotepi said |
| 22:11.12 | kergoth | hmm c&c3.. |
| 22:11.15 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 22:11.17 | purl | Now, I know you're a feminist, and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man. |
| 22:12.33 | scotepi | Joost vs WoW vs C&C3.... |
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| 22:13.16 | TC_Working | you cant compaire RTS to MMOPRG to...whats Joost? |
| 22:13.30 | scotepi | Online Streaming HD TV |
| 22:14.31 | TC_Working | ok...what one of the 3 options does NOT fit with the rest..... |
| 22:15.07 | scotepi | but i <3 tv... just there int much on joost yet :( |
| 22:15.35 | TC_Working | i dont watch TV, i just DL the shows i like |
| 22:15.48 | scotepi | . /cry i relese a addon with some debug code left in it :( |
| 22:16.03 | cogwheel | heh... i do that all the time :P |
| 22:16.10 | scotepi | that what i normaly do but this is the same thing... you can watch anything thats been on in the last weak |
| 22:16.16 | cogwheel | just take a look at my changelogs for CogsBar & BuyEmAll XD |
| 22:16.37 | scotepi | if not longer |
| 22:17.58 | scotepi | <3 notepadd++ just wish i could find something as good for mac |
| 22:18.14 | AnduinLothar | smultron |
| 22:18.33 | scotepi | thats what i use |
| 22:18.42 | scotepi | but it has odd highlighting |
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| 22:18.51 | AnduinLothar | so chaneg the colors |
| 22:18.57 | AnduinLothar | or write oyur own module |
| 22:18.59 | scotepi | to much work |
| 22:19.35 | AnduinLothar | weren't you jsut tlakign abotu building linux? |
| 22:19.41 | scotepi | yeah |
| 22:19.54 | scotepi | some things ill go all the way with.. others i wont |
| 22:19.57 | scotepi | *wont |
| 22:23.28 | bleetah | ah, I found the gentoo page I was looking for, using archive.org ... http://web.archive.org/web/20060513022941/http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
| 22:23.59 | scotepi | lol |
| 22:24.14 | bleetah | the 'gentoo is for ricers' page ;) |
| 22:24.26 | bleetah | time for more coffee |
| 22:28.37 | bleetah | it boils down to http://web.archive.org/web/20051103031912/www.funroll-loops.org/gentoo.jpg |
| 22:28.40 | bleetah | :-P |
| 22:32.08 | Corrodias | if lacerate/sunder armor wears off on a mob, do you lose the threat it generated? |
| 22:32.16 | Karrion | Corrodias: no |
| 22:32.18 | Corrodias | does continuing to use it even when it's stacked to 5 generate more threat? |
| 22:32.24 | Karrion | yes |
| 22:32.32 | Corrodias | thank you |
| 22:32.50 | Karrion | you get the threat from _performing_ the sunder, not from the debuff it applies |
| 22:33.09 | zenzelezz | strictly speaking there are two things to Sunder Armor: instant, permanent threat, and a temporary armor debuff |
| 22:33.29 | Karrion | (for SA at least, not a druid so I can't be 100% on lacerate, but I imagine oit would work the same way) |
| 22:35.11 | ben___ | Karrion: It does. |
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| 22:37.59 | xlvii | it's 'lego' |
| 22:38.06 | xlvii | not 'legos' |
| 22:38.10 | xlvii | www.legos.com |
| 22:45.37 | zenzelezz | hrm, I just had my first DC-loop while on the wind rider... sort of sucks. Seen a few guildies have it |
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| 23:00.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow forums 404ing? |
| 23:01.08 | Shirik | is fine to me... |
| 23:01.13 | bleetah | nah, not 404.. erm.. the can't connect code |
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