| 00:00.27 | wobin | Thank you Iriel =) |
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| 00:01.36 | Sole | hi iriel :) |
| 00:01.50 | Iriel | Good luck with it wobin |
| 00:01.52 | Sole | :( |
| 00:01.53 | Iriel | hi Sole |
| 00:02.05 | Sole | guess I'll get wobin to explain to me what Ive missed |
| 00:32.04 | Corrodias | so what were warriors complaining about, exactly? |
| 00:32.16 | Corrodias | must have been pvp |
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| 00:37.49 | Kirkburn|afk | If anyone was wondering about 2.0.9 ... "2.0.9 is a Taiwan-only release." |
| 00:38.01 | zenzelezz | discrimination! |
| 00:39.38 | bleetah | do they use double-byte chars or something? |
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| 00:41.01 | rjaym | i'm having my screen freeze whenever someone joins the raid in Alterac Valley BG |
| 00:41.38 | rjaym | i don't use any raid specific addons, and i've just installed fresh all the addons i use, and removed any old irrelevant saved vars/etc by deleting my WTF folder |
| 00:41.57 | rjaym | anyone have any idea how i can fix this? is it just disk access? do i need to just defrag? |
| 00:43.06 | wobin | Iriel: If I have a button that has a showstate of 3 and a current state of 0, shouldn't it hide? |
| 00:43.27 | Iriel | It should, yes. |
| 00:43.34 | Iriel | but if it re-shows itself, you'll have issues |
| 00:43.41 | wobin | hm |
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| 00:59.30 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 01:00.15 | MentalPower | yes Cair? |
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| 01:15.53 | wobin | Bah =( |
| 01:16.35 | wobin | Iriel|Away: A button's 'state' gained through the GetAttribute("state") should change on click, yeah, if it's clearly passing -something- and effecting some change |
| 01:37.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Cairenn|afk, that was certainly an ... interesting leaving msg :P |
| 01:38.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Mr_Rabies, you have the strangest leaving messages (maybe this makes it clear what I was referring to) |
| 01:38.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | huhuhuh:O |
| 01:38.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, I managed to force myself to about about 45mins of work |
| 01:39.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Now for Heroes and bed :P |
| 01:40.04 | Kirkburn|afk | G'night all! |
| 01:40.29 | Kirkburn|afk | (no leaving message for YOU) |
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| 02:06.32 | wobin | Is GetRealZoneText() localised? |
| 02:07.15 | wobin | oh damnit it is |
| 02:18.32 | Legorol | does anyone know how to reset my personal threat stats in this newfangled KLHTHreatMeter gui? |
| 02:26.46 | MentalPower | wobin: use the map filename |
| 02:27.56 | wobin | Ogrimmar etc? =) |
| 02:30.02 | MentalPower | aye |
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| 02:40.27 | Garoun | I checed on PTR rabies |
| 02:40.43 | Neuro_Medivh | wow... a Sunday patch... you know it's serious when it's a Sunday patch |
| 02:41.20 | Garoun | lost 2k af, 1k hp, 1-2% mitigation |
| 02:45.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn |
| 02:45.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | bout the same for me, little more health lost though |
| 02:46.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1200 or so here |
| 02:46.06 | Garoun | the problem being though |
| 02:46.07 | Legorol | Neuro_Medivh: Sunday patch? |
| 02:46.11 | Garoun | it's not STats that changed |
| 02:46.17 | Garoun | it's the hidden modifiers |
| 02:46.42 | Legorol | what patch where how |
| 02:47.26 | Legorol | advantages of flying mount, part 1: |
| 02:47.31 | Legorol | never use the Aldor lift again! |
| 02:47.53 | bleetah | I think he may be referring to the unscheduled 1 hour downtime.. well, it's actually scheduled now, but.. yeah, it's out of the usual patch cycle |
| 02:48.45 | bleetah | brb |
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| 02:50.28 | Legorol | "software update" sounds like patching security hole to kernel? |
| 02:50.51 | Garoun | or something like that |
| 02:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | what if the servers run on windows :O |
| 02:51.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're like a year behind on windows update |
| 02:51.30 | Garoun | they are upgrading them to vista? |
| 02:51.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i highly doubt they would, but you never know |
| 02:51.36 | Garoun | :P |
| 02:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha |
| 02:51.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | vista would take a lot more than 20 mins or whatever they say the downtime is :p |
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| 02:56.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Next server version of Windows is still in beta :) (look I'm showing how MS-y I am again, smile) |
| 02:56.22 | Kirkburn|afk | (they should pay me for this, I know) |
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| 03:26.34 | Sole | ~seen Iriel |
| 03:26.50 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2h 43m 16s ago, saying: 'but if it re-shows itself, you'll have issues'. |
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| 04:00.11 | Cairenn|afk | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 04:00.13 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on JoshBorke and suddenly hugs JoshBorke tightly |
| 04:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | feeling any better cair? |
| 04:05.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man, fry's dog episode of futurama :( |
| 04:29.52 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 04:29.54 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 04:29.56 | JoshBorke | purl, comfort Cairenn|afk |
| 04:29.57 | purl | There, there, Cairenn|afk. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:30.37 | Cairenn|afk | oi, ping spam! |
| 04:31.42 | JoshBorke | :) |
| 04:31.50 | Cairenn|afk | *hug* |
| 04:32.28 | JoshBorke | ok, bed time |
| 04:32.29 | JoshBorke | nn all |
| 04:32.39 | Cairenn|afk | night JoshBorke, sweet dreams |
| 04:32.48 | JoshBorke | you too cair, get rest :P |
| 04:32.57 | Cairenn|afk | thanks |
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| 05:06.34 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | "wow, yea, i'm just gonna go over there and play with legos" - JoshBorke |
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| 05:25.59 | SniperFodder | Evening |
| 05:27.35 | SniperFodder | Anybody out there? |
| 05:32.48 | SniperFodder | Hello |
| 06:06.20 | bleetah | well, there's me gone for a while.. a friend's just brought round a collection of Red Dwarf DVDs |
| 06:12.51 | wobin | hm |
| 06:12.58 | wobin | I'm going to miss mindflay and silence |
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| 06:19.48 | SniperFodder | What, Wobin, you respec? |
| 06:20.29 | wobin | yeah |
| 06:20.31 | wobin | holy/disc |
| 06:20.45 | SniperFodder | I was holy for awhile... then I switched to shadow. |
| 06:21.17 | wobin | I've been shadow for a while. It'll be a nice change I think |
| 06:22.15 | SniperFodder | I was digging down to angel of redemption... then i decided to switch to shadow to try it out and see why everyone hated shadow priests >_> |
| 06:23.37 | SniperFodder | Gah, this addon is giving me a head ache =/ |
| 06:25.37 | SniperFodder | Just curious... anyone. Do you think it's a good idea to use Dreamweaver to edit .lua, .toc, and .xml files? |
| 06:25.50 | subbot | I just finished farming as a holy priest |
| 06:26.08 | subbot | I had to farm 8 primal waters for my +81 healing enchant |
| 06:26.25 | SniperFodder | >_> farming.... I can't do farming. i don't have the patience |
| 06:27.22 | subbot | Well im farming lvl 63 mobs at level 70 |
| 06:27.25 | subbot | so it's not too bad |
| 06:27.33 | subbot | Smite Smite Shadow Word: Death |
| 06:28.32 | SniperFodder | sounds reasonable. I did do some farming on my 60 in vc and such to get greens for my enchanter |
| 06:29.04 | subbot | i was there for at least 2-3 hours |
| 06:29.16 | subbot | but it was worth it |
| 06:29.27 | subbot | I now have +1637 healing |
| 06:29.30 | SniperFodder | i bet. Expensive enchant i'm guessing |
| 06:29.57 | subbot | 8 primal water, 8 primal life, 8 large prismatic shards |
| 06:30.27 | SniperFodder | yea... expensive |
| 06:30.33 | SniperFodder | then again, what enchant isn't? |
| 06:31.06 | SniperFodder | I don't suppose you would know, but do you think it's okay if I use Dreamweaver to edit my addon's files? |
| 06:31.24 | subbot | No idea |
| 06:32.03 | SniperFodder | it seems to work fine. It's nice because I can collapse huge sections of code if need be |
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| 07:03.21 | Corrodias | i don't suppose the "stuck" thing will take you through an invisible wall? |
| 07:03.54 | subbot | if you're stuck on the other side of your hearth location maybe :P |
| 07:04.15 | Corrodias | i'm in a rather bad position at the moment, stuck between a cliff and an invisible wall |
| 07:05.26 | Persephonea | lol that sux |
| 07:06.08 | Persephonea | >_> I guess when i timed out the irc channel thought i was still in the channel |
| 07:07.00 | Persephonea | anyone know how to fix the following? |
| 07:07.18 | Persephonea | attempt to call field 'mod' (a nil value) |
| 07:10.23 | Persephonea | much better. Brb |
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| 07:11.02 | Persephonea | gar |
| 07:11.15 | Persephonea | I could commit muder >_> |
| 07:12.15 | Corrodias | the error should give you a file name and line number |
| 07:14.25 | Persephonea | aye, it did. I'm just not sure how to fix table errors (I think it's a table error) |
| 07:14.33 | Persephonea | helpers.lua, line 35. |
| 07:15.14 | Corrodias | and what is the line? |
| 07:15.38 | Persephonea | hue = math.mod(hue, 360); |
| 07:15.44 | Persephonea | it doesn't like mod |
| 07:15.59 | Corrodias | i would assume there is no math.mod() |
| 07:16.32 | Persephonea | This is a fairly old addon, built pre- 2.0 |
| 07:20.47 | Persephonea | I think I found my prefered editor for addon files >_> |
| 07:21.09 | Tierrie | Is there a caveat to using SetScript("OnEnter"....? |
| 07:21.34 | Tierrie | I set Frame:SetScript("OnEnter", but it doesn't seem to proc OnMouseOver |
| 07:24.01 | Tierrie | does OnEnter only trigger for Buttons? |
| 07:25.58 | Tierrie | hmm no |
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| 07:27.18 | pakoz | yo, anyone around? |
| 07:27.34 | Persephonea | Supposedly. Though I wouldn't take my word for it |
| 07:28.19 | pakoz | hmm |
| 07:28.39 | pakoz | good at math by chance ;x? |
| 07:29.10 | Tierrie | just ask the question |
| 07:29.12 | pakoz | 2894/(1+259*e(-0.0025*X)) |
| 07:29.18 | pakoz | e=? |
| 07:29.19 | Tierrie | use a calculator |
| 07:29.24 | Tierrie | e is a constant |
| 07:29.37 | pakoz | ya, no idea what that means |
| 07:29.52 | Tierrie | no, its a constant, lik epi |
| 07:29.54 | Tierrie | uh pi |
| 07:30.00 | Tierrie | it is 2.7182818 |
| 07:30.51 | Persephonea | there fore, 2894/(1=259*2.7182818(-0.0025*X)) |
| 07:32.00 | Persephonea | If i'm going to build a frame, do i have to define functions in it? |
| 07:32.13 | pakoz | ty |
| 07:32.37 | Persephonea | so I can see what it looks like without worrying about errors? |
| 07:33.00 | Tierrie | frames don't need any functions in it |
| 07:33.08 | Tierrie | just :Show() to see what it looks like |
| 07:33.55 | Persephonea | okay |
| 07:34.34 | Persephonea | *shudder* i was never good at making things from scratch =/ |
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| 07:45.55 | cogwheel | Apparently, Buyemall has been around since the 1800s... http://bythefireplace.com/read/13/40483/35/ |
| 07:46.48 | Tierrie | hey cog |
| 07:46.58 | Tierrie | how come I can't SetScript on Frames? |
| 07:48.06 | Tierrie | uhm more specifically, how come my SetScript("OnEvent" on a frame is not triggering? |
| 07:48.07 | cogwheel | That would be like me asking you "how come I can't eat chicken?" :P |
| 07:48.15 | Tierrie | OnEnter I mean |
| 07:48.18 | Tierrie | :( |
| 07:48.43 | cogwheel | do you need to enablemouse? |
| 07:49.04 | cogwheel | other than that, you'll have to share your code... |
| 07:50.16 | Tierrie | let me see if ia can strip out the rubbish |
| 07:52.01 | Tierrie | http://wowi.pastey.net/7184-6e9m |
| 07:52.24 | Tierrie | if you have an overlapping frame, will OnEnter still trigger? |
| 07:52.31 | cogwheel | no |
| 07:52.45 | Tierrie | what if they are transparent? |
| 07:52.46 | cogwheel | otherwise you'd have frames competing for tooltips |
| 07:52.58 | cogwheel | irrelevant |
| 07:53.16 | Tierrie | this is going to be a problem, here's what I am trying to do |
| 07:53.43 | Tierrie | i am working on DHUD, its a skeletal frame with some textures set to various heigh |
| 07:54.22 | Tierrie | its got multiple textures overlapping, I need to figure out a way to select a specific frame |
| 07:54.31 | Tierrie | so I can configure that frame online |
| 07:54.38 | Tierrie | uh s/online/only/ |
| 07:55.08 | Tierrie | I think the problem is that I have multiple frames |
| 07:56.09 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_MouseIsOver |
| 07:56.41 | wobin | raise the frame you want to deal with, programatically |
| 07:57.57 | Tierrie | wobin: the problem is the textures are not rectangles -- i am trying to figure out a way for the user to select a frame |
| 07:58.04 | Tierrie | looking at cog's solution |
| 07:58.51 | cogwheel | Tierrie: all frames are rectangles. There's no way for the UI to know what part of the texture shouldn't be clickable. |
| 07:59.03 | cogwheel | O.o 2.0.10? |
| 07:59.08 | cogwheel | I wanted 2.1... |
| 08:00.17 | Tierrie | ok let me rephrase, the texture is rectangle, but the the non transparent part forms a bar |
| 08:00.19 | Tierrie | let me take a screenshot |
| 08:01.00 | cogwheel | I understand what DHUD looks like... i'm just not quite clear on what you're trying to accomplish (its late :P ) |
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| 08:02.09 | cogwheel | yay! warrior buff! |
| 08:02.12 | Tierrie | I have rewritten DHUD doing the configuration / options now. I want to click on a bar so I can configure it individually (color, etc etc) |
| 08:03.09 | cogwheel | ah... since they overlap a bit, you may have to use some tricky math with the mouse coordinates |
| 08:03.19 | cogwheel | or make a rough subdivision with a bunch of little frames |
| 08:03.20 | Tierrie | www.code-poets.org/dhud.jpg |
| 08:03.57 | Tierrie | so what i am trying to do is that when i mouseover one of those bars, I want to color it, and then when they click on it, I want to pop up a frame with some options |
| 08:04.09 | Tierrie | make configurating more dynamic |
| 08:05.31 | cogwheel | yep... my last comments still hold true... |
| 08:05.34 | Tierrie | MouseOver seems good, except the problem is that most of the Frame still exists even if its not transparent >_< |
| 08:05.46 | Tierrie | yeah |
| 08:07.06 | cogwheel | The many-frame technique would probably be the simplest to implement but not necessary the most efficient. |
| 08:08.15 | Tierrie | not sure what you mean by that? how do you propose splitting the frames again? |
| 08:08.30 | cogwheel | You make a bunch of overlay frames |
| 08:08.39 | cogwheel | that sit on top of the main texture frame |
| 08:08.48 | Tierrie | and when they mouseover the overlay frame, you highlight the main texture frame? |
| 08:08.53 | cogwheel | yep |
| 08:09.26 | Tierrie | and the overlay frame is a single frame with no overlapping , get the coordinates and then map it to the main texture frame? |
| 08:09.27 | cogwheel | You'd have to do a lot of them to make it satisfyingly smooth |
| 08:09.31 | Tierrie | oh |
| 08:09.35 | Tierrie | or i can get the coordinates |
| 08:10.23 | Tierrie | tough luck :( |
| 08:10.25 | cogwheel | getting coordinates of a curve can be tricky especially when the frames are scaleable and I think cursor positions have to be translated into the virtual resolution (i might be wrong on that part) |
| 08:10.41 | cogwheel | s/virtual/normalized/ |
| 08:10.57 | Tierrie | that is truth |
| 08:13.03 | Tierrie | subdividing it would be pretty hard too |
| 08:13.12 | cogwheel | more tedious than anything |
| 08:13.18 | Tierrie | especially mapping it to the underlying layer |
| 08:13.38 | cogwheel | it would basically be static. The frames would be anchored to the underlying frame so they would automatically scale |
| 08:14.11 | cogwheel | you would have to hard-code in all the coordinates though |
| 08:14.41 | Tierrie | but you will have like 10 frames by like 100 frames or something |
| 08:14.58 | cogwheel | yup. that's the drawback |
| 08:15.19 | Tierrie | ok i acknowledge that that is a solution |
| 08:15.40 | Tierrie | but i think i rather just implement a seperate list they can select from instead of doing the mouseclick on bars |
| 08:15.44 | Tierrie | at that point |
| 08:15.59 | cogwheel | if you're comfortable with the math involved, the coordinate method /would/ be more efficient, and potentially quicker to implement |
| 08:16.31 | Tierrie | i think that might work |
| 08:17.17 | Tierrie | Whats the function to get the Coordinates on a frame? |
| 08:17.52 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com :P |
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| 08:18.00 | Tierrie | looking for it right now |
| 08:18.00 | cogwheel | that's where i'd go to find out for you |
| 08:18.09 | Tierrie | I searched for GetCoord and GetCoordinate |
| 08:18.11 | cogwheel | it would probably be under the widget api |
| 08:18.25 | Tierrie | just hoped you knew it offhand but if you didn't I am searching for it ATM and will probably find it |
| 08:22.29 | Tierrie | damn i just had a thought -- changing the bars's texture is an option and they may change it into another irregular shape |
| 08:22.41 | Tierrie | might have to make a seperate list instead |
| 08:23.25 | Tierrie | thanks for your help cog |
| 08:26.28 | bleetah | Tierrie: ooh, are you the maintainer of DHUD on WoWI (Caeryn)? |
| 08:26.31 | Tierrie | yes |
| 08:26.47 | bleetah | sweet, look me up if you ever want testing of stuff done :) |
| 08:26.58 | Tierrie | well i just finished the first round of alpha testing on v2 |
| 08:27.01 | bleetah | or user opinions, etc ;) |
| 08:27.17 | bleetah | 'coz apparently I'm known to be opinionated sometimes |
| 08:27.24 | Tierrie | hehe i will remember that |
| 08:27.50 | bleetah | someone once called me appionated, so I'm also that (whatever the hell it means) |
| 08:28.28 | Tierrie | haha :) |
| 08:29.08 | bleetah | b ut basically, stuff falls into three categories (a) crap, no hope (b) crap, some hope (c) schweeeetass :D |
| 08:29.21 | Tierrie | haha :) |
| 08:30.01 | bleetah | 'bout the only major prob I had when i started using it, was it didn't interact well with archeologist from Cosmos.. so I disabled archeologist |
| 08:30.10 | bleetah | works fine now ;) |
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| 08:30.44 | Tierrie | good choice :) |
| 08:30.49 | Tierrie | gtg back to work |
| 08:30.55 | bleetah | take care mate |
| 08:30.56 | Tierrie | thanks to cog! |
| 08:31.13 | bleetah | cog's the man |
| 08:31.18 | bleetah | s/man/wheel/ |
| 08:31.58 | bleetah | if a cog squeaks in an IRC channel and no one's around, is oil really needed? |
| 08:31.59 | cogwheel | cya |
| 08:32.26 | cogwheel | I know the sound of one hand clapping... |
| 08:32.50 | bleetah | I went to college with the guy who wrote that book... he's a knob |
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| 08:58.34 | MentalPower|WoW | ~lart bleetah |
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| 09:47.53 | Corrodias | well, it's vaguely entertaining to read through a forum of "fixed WoW exploits" |
| 09:50.09 | Elkano | well, it could make you think "Do they have QA at all?" |
| 09:52.40 | Corrodias | well, so far, none of these things are what i'd call obvious |
| 09:52.52 | Corrodias | except a couple that actually never worked to begin with |
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| 09:53.11 | Corrodias | people posting without actually trying them, i guess |
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| 10:25.31 | Corrodias | here's one of the dumbest posts i've seen on this site so far, referencing a bug exploit: "why the hell would it get you banned... its not your fault the game is bugged" |
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| 10:50.08 | Floyd | hello |
| 10:51.05 | Floyd | a little questen.. is is posible to load a lua-script after the addon is running? if yes for with key-word must i search? |
| 10:51.20 | Floyd | like: |
| 10:51.30 | Floyd | if xx==1 then |
| 10:51.42 | Floyd | loadLuaScript("xyz.lua") |
| 10:51.43 | Floyd | end |
| 10:51.45 | Floyd | ? |
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| 10:54.42 | bleetah | that'd be one of those LoadOnDemand things, i guess... check the info @ wowwiki.com about load on demand |
| 10:55.12 | bleetah | altohugh whether it'd work for indicidual files within a mod, I have no idea |
| 10:55.28 | bleetah | it'd work/it's possible to work it |
| 10:56.10 | Floyd | kk thx |
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| 10:58.49 | Floyd | on wowwiki i don't found enythink :( |
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| 10:59.54 | Corrodias | huh |
| 10:59.58 | Corrodias | search for "loadondemand". :P |
| 11:00.00 | Floyd | hi |
| 11:01.04 | Floyd | k thx :D i hope that will help :D |
| 11:03.50 | Floyd | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_LoadAddOn <-- can i also load i file only? i have e file xxx.lua in my addon that are not registert in the toc and not load |
| 11:04.26 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 11:04.29 | Corrodias | i wouldn't know |
| 11:04.30 | Floyd | at a specifit event i would be load this code |
| 11:04.54 | Corrodias | you should define that code as a function and just call it when that event occurs |
| 11:05.11 | Floyd | http://www.lua.org/pil/8.html <-- says there are a function names "loadfile" .. das she work with wow? |
| 11:05.53 | Floyd | @cor..: thats not that i wont.. the code have a size with over 4MB |
| 11:06.05 | Floyd | i would be split the code in many parts |
| 11:06.34 | Floyd | and wow should be only load this part of code that are request of the player |
| 11:07.11 | Floyd | as example .. if have 10 tables with more then 1000 Entrys in each table |
| 11:07.21 | Floyd | the player needs only the table 3 |
| 11:07.35 | Floyd | whay i should be load the other 9 tables ? |
| 11:08.16 | Corrodias | well, WoW's lua doesn't have file I/O functions, so i think you'd be stuck with making nine loadondemand addons, as far as i'm aware |
| 11:09.52 | Floyd | sorry my english isen't the best .. i cant understand what you mean ofer i/O function , .... but i have an idear |
| 11:10.10 | Corrodias | reading from or writing to files |
| 11:10.43 | Floyd | I/O is clearly but the part after .. "so i think you'd...." |
| 11:10.51 | Floyd | if i have 10 addons with only the table and 1 addon who manage this .. |
| 11:11.17 | Floyd | can i flag the 10 addons as not loadable at wow start and load it later with code? |
| 11:11.57 | Floyd | simple like "deactive addon" and "active addon" or some like this? |
| 11:13.47 | Floyd | ah oky i have found this : ## LoadOnDemand: 1 -- key thank you for your help |
| 11:19.04 | Corrodias | this forum requires registration to view, and i don't want to register |
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| 11:25.40 | bleetah | wth? |
| 11:26.06 | bleetah | privoxy, tor and random q. hotmail addresses ftw! ;) |
| 11:26.18 | Corrodias | oh, it requires payment |
| 11:26.26 | bleetah | oh... screw that then.. soz |
| 11:26.31 | Corrodias | that was the primary reason i want to not register |
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| 12:21.13 | wobin | Iriel whereartthou? =( |
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| 12:44.03 | bleetah | anoyone know if it's possible to make the GM ticket pending window movable? it's really pissing me off right now :/ |
| 12:44.27 | bleetah | I can see the times left on my buffs, but not what the freakin' buffs are! grrr /cry /wrist |
| 12:45.00 | bleetah | hmm, I guess the frame would have to be over-ridden with something movable? |
| 12:47.22 | Kaso | cant you just setpoint it somewhere else? |
| 12:47.50 | bleetah | balls, server shutdown anyway |
| 12:49.42 | bleetah | kaso: hrm, (a) prolly, if I knew how ingame (b) even if I did know, I was getting beaten on by four mobs, and it might've been tricky to do in combat ;) |
| 12:50.04 | Kaso | Combat coding is for the leet only! |
| 12:50.31 | bleetah | at 23:50 on a Sunday night? Even the leet need their ugly sleep sometimes |
| 12:50.56 | bleetah | yeah, I meant ugly sleep. 'coz being beautiful and leet is hard work... easier to throw some off the scent with the occasional ugly sleep ;) |
| 12:51.16 | bleetah | nn all :) |
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| 13:41.55 | Kaso | "Speaking of Maiev why is she 12 feet tall?" |
| 13:41.56 | Kaso | "Being more powerful and/or famous is a documented cause of gigantism." |
| 13:44.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | doesn't explain the ammo vendor in org |
| 13:44.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | she's like twice as tall as normal tauren |
| 13:46.46 | Kaso | You mean Kaja next to the AH? i never noticed her being partiually tall |
| 13:47.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | she is |
| 13:47.38 | Kaso | mm i shall have to go take a look |
| 13:47.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | run up to her on a normal sized furry |
| 13:47.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | shes like furzilla |
| 13:47.50 | Kaso | haha |
| 13:48.24 | Kaso | to be honest she is pretty famous, i mean i bet pretty much every horde knows her well due to the amount of money in repairs she's stolen off us |
| 13:48.55 | Kaso | or the amount of money shes given us for our Buzzard's Guts or whatever |
| 13:58.31 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: Kaja is tall so that you will still be able to click her when there's 20 horde gathered around her |
| 13:58.34 | zenzelezz | at least that's my theory |
| 13:58.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | but she's just the ammo vendor |
| 13:59.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i realize there's a LOT of hunters |
| 13:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but still |
| 13:59.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 13:59.13 | Kaso | 90% of the horde repair/sell junk at her |
| 13:59.16 | zenzelezz | when I played horde on US-Arthas, she was more the repair vendor than the ammo vendor |
| 13:59.16 | Kaso | to her |
| 14:01.10 | Kaso | I wish the two vendors in the hut right of the main gate were in Kaja's plce |
| 14:03.41 | zenzelezz | what vendors are those again, meat? Or some sort of armor? |
| 14:03.56 | Kaso | A general good vendor an a trade goods vendor |
| 14:04.02 | Kaso | pretty much everything you could ever want |
| 14:04.04 | zenzelezz | oh, right |
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| 14:04.21 | zenzelezz | I miss playing horde, but would take me far too long to get back to where I am if I rerolled :-/ |
| 14:04.41 | zenzelezz | besides, I like my guild |
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| 14:12.25 | cladhaire | anyone know what this magic server patch is for? |
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| 14:18.44 | nevcairiel | what server patch? |
| 14:20.03 | Kolth | Servers just went down and are up |
| 14:20.33 | nevcairiel | must be US only |
| 14:20.39 | nevcairiel | or we get it later :P |
| 14:20.41 | Kolth | Yarr. |
| 14:21.41 | cladhaire | they said it was a server side software update |
| 14:21.45 | cladhaire | but it wasn't for all realms |
| 14:21.46 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 14:21.48 | Kirkburn|afk | You know, I find it amazing that people quit over a perceived nerf to a single class :/ |
| 14:22.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Just looking at the priest boards, and it's crazy in there |
| 14:22.37 | nevcairiel | Its that people, who were not happy anyway. |
| 14:22.42 | Kirkburn|afk | The moment someone tries to reason with them, they're insulted and told to stfu |
| 14:22.46 | Elkano | well, for no longer being able to tank better than a warrior I should think about quitting, too ;) |
| 14:22.53 | cladhaire | well shadow priests got.. destroyed |
| 14:23.07 | cladhaire | Meh, I never wanted to be the best tank |
| 14:23.09 | Cide | I think priests were overnerfed, but /shrug, life goes on and I won't quit :P |
| 14:23.12 | cladhaire | I just wanted to be a viable tank |
| 14:23.19 | cladhaire | I still am, so I'm fine |
| 14:23.25 | cladhaire | they nerfed PVP bear form, not PVE |
| 14:23.27 | cladhaire | imho :P |
| 14:23.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, but going crazy and attempting to start a riot will not help Blizzard find a better balance |
| 14:23.39 | nevcairiel | I am happy being a tree, so who cares about feral nerfs :P |
| 14:23.45 | cladhaire | the armor nerf is a joke, the HP nerf sucks a bit, but that's all that matters =) |
| 14:23.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Well it wasn't all nerfs to druids |
| 14:24.05 | Cide | Kirkburn|afk: all classes have done that one time or another |
| 14:24.09 | Kirkburn|afk | More rage and more moonkin armor I saw |
| 14:24.15 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:24.17 | cladhaire | I know, I'm just a druid and prisest. .so i'm focusing on those. |
| 14:24.18 | Cide | warriors, druids, warlocks, paladins, mages, rogues... |
| 14:24.19 | Cide | list goes on |
| 14:24.25 | cladhaire | more rage won't help us here tho |
| 14:24.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Madness I tell thee! |
| 14:24.30 | Elkano | well, armor is still better then pre-2.0 (400% vs 360%) |
| 14:24.33 | cladhaire | since half the mobs in the game are immune to our sunder armor |
| 14:24.44 | cladhaire | its honestly tough to dump rage when you're multitanking |
| 14:25.01 | cladhaire | maul, mangle, and swipe constantly and i still can't use my rage =/ |
| 14:25.03 | nevcairiel | the swipe of death! |
| 14:25.04 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:25.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Can only humanoid mobs be sundered? |
| 14:25.13 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 14:25.16 | cladhaire | The thunderclap buff is nice =) |
| 14:25.23 | cladhaire | warrriors will have a good time with that |
| 14:25.24 | nevcairiel | but the bear sunder is a bleed effect |
| 14:25.31 | Kirkburn|afk | ah |
| 14:25.33 | cladhaire | and SOOO much is undead right now |
| 14:25.33 | nevcairiel | and lots of mobs are immune to bleed |
| 14:25.38 | cladhaire | and if not undead, immune to bleed |
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| 14:26.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Given the amount of complaints over the 20 second PoM cooldown I guess they'll probably reduce it, but that's what a test server is for. Testing. Quitting before the change is even live is beyond stupidity! :) |
| 14:27.11 | cladhaire | 20 seconds is an eternity for a healer. |
| 14:27.21 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:27.22 | cladhaire | i think it was overdone |
| 14:27.28 | Kirkburn|afk | I got that feeling :P |
| 14:27.29 | nevcairiel | even the 15s on swiftmend is evil :D |
| 14:27.49 | Zicon | PoM? |
| 14:27.55 | wobin | PRayer of Mending |
| 14:27.55 | cladhaire | 10 seconds would be sufficient, and serve the same purpose. |
| 14:27.57 | nevcairiel | one thing about PoM that was overpowered |
| 14:27.58 | Zicon | Oh. |
| 14:28.00 | nevcairiel | in PvE |
| 14:28.05 | Zicon | Not familiar with that. |
| 14:28.08 | nevcairiel | that the tank could use it for aggro-ing |
| 14:28.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't actually know how PoM works either |
| 14:28.11 | wobin | Kirkburn|afk: You're expecting rationality? Where have you been? =P |
| 14:28.15 | Kirkburn|afk | wobin, lol |
| 14:28.32 | Kirkburn|afk | On the warlock boards, where everything is sweetness and light |
| 14:28.38 | wobin | nevcairiel: Cause it was marked as the tank healing himself? |
| 14:28.52 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 14:28.57 | cladhaire | so is lifebloom |
| 14:28.57 | nevcairiel | prolly still is |
| 14:28.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Sorry, I meant where everything is Felguard and Deathcoil |
| 14:29.01 | cladhaire | thats why they gave them to us |
| 14:29.03 | cladhaire | specifically |
| 14:29.04 | wobin | hm, I wonder how that affected healing counters |
| 14:29.13 | foxlit | Could someone with posting rights on US forums post something for me? |
| 14:29.14 | cladhaire | wobin: blew them to pieces |
| 14:29.18 | wobin | cladhaire: hehe =) |
| 14:29.21 | nevcairiel | lifebloom counts as tank healing aggro? |
| 14:29.24 | cladhaire | yes |
| 14:29.26 | cladhaire | for the bloom |
| 14:29.28 | cladhaire | the periodic is ours |
| 14:29.33 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 14:29.53 | foxlit | It seems that :Disable() and :Enable() work on secure frames in combat, and /click does nothing if the button is disabled |
| 14:30.02 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:30.13 | nevcairiel | but you cannot click-through a :Disable()'ed button |
| 14:30.20 | foxlit | Yes, you can. |
| 14:30.21 | foxlit | http://foxlit.pastey.net/6866 |
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| 14:31.27 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 14:32.55 | wobin | night! |
| 14:33.02 | nevcairiel | i could get that into a decursing macro, i guess .. if target has curse, decurse, otherwise, abolish poison |
| 14:33.49 | nevcairiel | but looks like a glitch in their system |
| 14:33.54 | nevcairiel | and not WAI |
| 14:33.56 | foxlit | Could probably make a full-scale decursive if you have buttons for specific spells and buttons to target them |
| 14:34.37 | foxlit | Don't think it's really supposed to work like that -- it's either that /click needs to ignore enabled/disabled, or :Disable() and :Enable() shouldn't work when protected |
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| 14:38.03 | Kirkburn|afk | In any case, it's not something Blizzard want |
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| 15:00.03 | JoshBorke | lol, nice topic cladhaire |
| 15:00.12 | cladhaire | i didn't make it =) |
| 15:01.59 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 15:02.10 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 15:02.10 | JoshBorke | you get everything worked out on that? |
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| 15:55.42 | Mini` | Hi there, i am trying to get a button to cast Healing Touch on left click and Regrowth on right click.. My button is inheriated from SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 15:56.15 | Mini` | In OnLoad i call theese -> self:SetAttribute("unit", "player"); self:SetAttribute("unit", "player"); self:SetAttribute("spell1", "Healing Touch"); |
| 15:56.29 | Mini` | This works fine for left click, but how do i add right click? |
| 15:58.46 | Mini` | I tried using http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview but i really don't get it |
| 15:59.16 | Mini` | When i add a new line with self:SetAttribute("spell2", "Regrowth"); right click still does nothing at all |
| 16:09.28 | Mini` | I have tried many things now, but no matter what i do everything works with left click e.g. left click, shift + left click etc. but when it comes to right click, nothing happens at all |
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| 16:12.29 | JoshBorke | pastey your code Mini` |
| 16:12.36 | Mini` | Thanks i'l do |
| 16:15.28 | Mini` | http://wowi.pastey.net/7193 |
| 16:15.38 | Mini` | My SetAttributes is at the last frame at the bottom |
| 16:15.58 | Mini` | Just say if you want the lua file to, but i really don't think there is anything of importance there |
| 16:18.32 | JoshBorke | why don't you set type2? |
| 16:19.01 | Mini` | I don't know excactly what self:SetAttribute("type1", "spell"); does |
| 16:19.17 | Mini` | The code is from http://www.wowwiki.com/Secure_Frames_Overview |
| 16:19.32 | Mini` | Just modified as i thought it should be hehe |
| 16:19.44 | JoshBorke | add self:SetAttribute("type2","spell") |
| 16:20.01 | Mini` | Okay |
| 16:20.16 | JoshBorke | i don't know, but I think that the "type2" tells it that there is some property that needs to be checked on right click and it tells it what kind of property/action it is |
| 16:20.33 | Mini` | Okay |
| 16:21.05 | Mini` | Hmm where should it be added? at the top or after self:SetAttribute("spell1", "Healing Touch");.. ? |
| 16:22.13 | JoshBorke | anywhere i think. i would put it with the other type attribute so things are together |
| 16:22.34 | Mini` | Okay |
| 16:23.03 | Mini` | Hmm doesn |
| 16:23.09 | Mini` | doesn't seem to work :/ |
| 16:23.23 | Mini` | I have made this: |
| 16:23.36 | Mini` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.36 | Mini` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.37 | Mini` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.37 | Mini` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.10 | Mini` | Have i made some numbers wrong? xD |
| 16:25.33 | JoshBorke | no looks fine |
| 16:25.35 | JoshBorke | dunno then |
| 16:25.43 | Mini` | Damn :/ |
| 16:26.21 | Mini` | Do you think my frame is created right? |
| 16:30.31 | JoshBorke | like i said, i don't know. never worked with the new buttons |
| 16:31.00 | Mini` | Okay, fair =) |
| 16:31.04 | Mini` | Thanks for the help tho |
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| 16:59.51 | Kindari | do the functions yo call in the <OnEvent> handler call in order, completing one before the other? |
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| 17:17.38 | Cide | yes, that's kind of the idea :) |
| 17:20.03 | Tierrie | unless you mean that you SetScript() multiple times |
| 17:20.11 | Tierrie | then it overrides each other and only the last one is called |
| 17:22.08 | Tierrie | when you mouse over overlapping frames, the topmost one gets the OnEnter event. does this mean the topmost strata or framelevel? |
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| 17:29.58 | Garoun|Loupana | yay, back from a powersupply melt down :( |
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| 17:30.28 | SniperFodder | Morning |
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| 17:37.22 | SniperFodder | Morning |
| 17:42.44 | Tierrie | ~toolkit |
| 17:44.01 | Tierrie | Hmm the interface addon kit from Blizzard.com is corrupt |
| 17:44.24 | SniperFodder | which one? the 2.0.X? |
| 17:44.34 | Tierrie | http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 17:45.23 | SniperFodder | I downloaded that yesterday. Seemed to work fine for me >_> |
| 17:45.33 | SniperFodder | then again idk |
| 17:45.34 | Tierrie | it does? |
| 17:45.37 | Tierrie | >_< |
| 17:45.48 | SniperFodder | want me to upload it to another site for you to download? |
| 17:45.58 | Tierrie | i'll try downloading with IE |
| 17:46.13 | SniperFodder | Yea... I am using IE... |
| 17:46.37 | Tierrie | works with IE |
| 17:46.39 | Tierrie | O_O |
| 17:46.44 | Tierrie | maybe FireFox is like "hate" |
| 17:46.47 | SniperFodder | lol |
| 17:47.24 | SniperFodder | yea... I like how they added 'tabbed' windows to IE. Saved me the trouble of downloading firefox or mozilla |
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| 17:55.24 | SniperFodder | >_> |
| 17:58.32 | SniperFodder | Gah! |
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| 18:59.51 | SniperFodder | ')' expected near '=' |
| 19:00.24 | SniperFodder | if(count = nil) then |
| 19:00.34 | SniperFodder | anyone know what I did wrong? |
| 19:03.08 | Kindari | if (count == nil) then |
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| 19:03.31 | SniperFodder | kk ty |
| 19:03.55 | Kindari | = for setting a variable, == when you're checking them with if then statements |
| 19:04.30 | SniperFodder | alright. I really need to look at the lua 5.1 hand book >_> |
| 19:04.46 | Kindari | haha me too - still learning |
| 19:05.08 | SniperFodder | yea... I'm using UI Desginer >_> I love the way the program works |
| 19:06.32 | SniperFodder | there we go! Fix a slight spelling error here... add a few = signs there and Bingo! It works |
| 19:06.46 | SniperFodder | haha, now I can stop using dreamweaver >_> |
| 19:09.34 | Kaso | programming in lua is nice for a worth a read through, the lua tech manual is pretty scary imo. |
| 19:09.46 | Kaso | http://www,lua.org/pil |
| 19:09.53 | Kaso | s/,/./ |
| 19:10.23 | Kindari | yah |
| 19:10.27 | Kindari | prety good book |
| 19:10.37 | Kindari | printed it out |
| 19:11.23 | zenzelezz | Curator becomes so much easier when your OT gets a bit of arcane resist |
| 19:11.45 | subbot | all you need is a shadowpriest |
| 19:12.12 | subbot | shadowpriest + bear tank |
| 19:12.41 | zenzelezz | we've got none, but do just fine with warriors |
| 19:12.55 | zenzelezz | 330 resist = hardly need healing on offtank |
| 19:16.30 | SniperFodder | la la la |
| 19:16.39 | subbot | the first curator kill we had |
| 19:16.42 | subbot | i chugged mana pots like crazy |
| 19:16.44 | subbot | got innervated |
| 19:16.46 | subbot | battle rezzed |
| 19:16.57 | SniperFodder | Now i have an SDK or whatever, I can go read the lua manual now |
| 19:16.57 | subbot | the second kill, with a shadow priest, i finished the fight with 80% mana |
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| 19:18.27 | Shadowed | Are you sure that was VT and not that you knew the fight and weren't trying to burn the boss down :p |
| 19:18.51 | subbot | im sure |
| 19:19.02 | Kindari | is it bad to call a function in a function |
| 19:19.05 | Kindari | i mean |
| 19:19.11 | Kindari | call fucntion a from within itself |
| 19:19.12 | SniperFodder | nesting? |
| 19:19.27 | SniperFodder | I don't know. I think I used to do that in Python >_> |
| 19:19.50 | Kindari | like function a () |
| 19:19.51 | SniperFodder | but this isn't python and I never completed that course |
| 19:19.51 | Kindari | if x =2 then |
| 19:19.53 | Kindari | a () |
| 19:19.54 | Kindari | end |
| 19:19.55 | nevcairiel | thats called recursive, and its not bad at all, if used right :) |
| 19:19.59 | Kindari | ok |
| 19:20.00 | Guillotine | Kindari: no, its not bad as long as you make sure it can't be an infinite loop |
| 19:20.06 | Kindari | ok |
| 19:20.14 | SniperFodder | ooo, The infinite loop! I did that once >_> |
| 19:20.45 | nevcairiel | its not that bad in WoW, you only get a stack overflow and can continue to play |
| 19:20.47 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:21.05 | SniperFodder | lol, Was bad for my poor program though |
| 19:21.06 | Kindari | i'm thinking |
| 19:21.22 | Kindari | wait nvm |
| 19:21.46 | SniperFodder | lol |
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| 19:34.24 | cogwheel | Where should I go next? I just dinged 67 and finished terokkar... should I go to nagarand or Blade's edge? |
| 19:34.50 | zenzelezz | if you're 67 I would skip Nagrand, unless you want to go there |
| 19:35.01 | Thunder_Child | nag is 64-67, BE is 65-68 |
| 19:35.01 | cogwheel | that's what i was thinking |
| 19:35.15 | zenzelezz | Nagrand is a great zone, but you're more in the level range for Blade's Edge |
| 19:42.19 | Arrowmaster | blades edge is perty boring without a flying mount, most my guild skipped it including me, suggest you do the same and do nagrand or goto shadowmoon/netherstorm |
| 19:42.39 | Garoun|Loupana | almost all of our 70s were 70 before even leaving nagrand |
| 19:45.07 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 19:45.13 | zenzelezz | did they grind or quest to 70? |
| 19:45.50 | Arrowmaster | quests |
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| 19:46.19 | Arrowmaster | grinding takes way too long compared to quests for solo leveling |
| 19:46.28 | Garoun|Loupana | we did quests |
| 19:46.29 | zenzelezz | agreed |
| 19:46.44 | Garoun|Loupana | if you do all the quests in a zone then move to the next including the instance quests |
| 19:46.47 | zenzelezz | but I quested to 70, and did all of Nagrand and Blade's Edge and still wasn't 70 |
| 19:46.53 | Garoun|Loupana | you'll be almost 70 by the time you finish nagrand |
| 19:47.07 | zenzelezz | I was only 67 or 68, can't remember |
| 19:47.38 | Arrowmaster | i was 68 then moved onto doing shadowmoon/netherstorm at the same time |
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| 19:53.30 | cladhaire | I hit 70 in Terrorkar =) |
| 19:53.34 | cladhaire | which i did after nagrant |
| 19:53.42 | cladhaire | hadn't stepped foot in Shadowmoon, Netherstorm or BE |
| 19:53.47 | MoonWolf | in terrokar, a bit early... |
| 19:53.52 | MoonWolf | lots of instances ? |
| 19:54.59 | JoshBorke | yea, legorol did something similar. i don't know how he did it |
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| 20:02.01 | SniperFodder | >_> My rogue is still 60 |
| 20:02.11 | tyroney | Either I'm crazy, or xml fonstrings get an automatic SetAllPoints() while lua created fontstrings don't. |
| 20:02.36 | SniperFodder | hmm. I wouldn't know. I'm knew to Lua |
| 20:02.40 | SniperFodder | new* |
| 20:03.21 | tyroney | This is more about the WoW API than Lua. |
| 20:03.28 | tyroney | I just thought I'd come and whine. |
| 20:03.46 | SniperFodder | lol, Sounds like a good thing to whine abuot |
| 20:03.48 | SniperFodder | about* |
| 20:04.40 | SniperFodder | i'm so glad I looked into HTML. Cause the .xml sheets don't look so frightening >_> |
| 20:05.41 | Kaso | XML annoys me, i use lua totally whenever i can. |
| 20:05.52 | tyroney | When it's done, you can visit my web site to learn stuff. I'm making a starting tutorial that covers XML and Lua created widgets, and UI authoring in general. |
| 20:05.53 | JoshBorke | i use both |
| 20:06.01 | tyroney | Both FTW! |
| 20:06.04 | JoshBorke | tyroney: why not add to the wiki? |
| 20:06.26 | tyroney | When I'm done I might. I just hate updating multiple things, so I usually just drop links all over. |
| 20:06.34 | Garoun|Loupana | anyone know a good site to use to see the typical drop size for things like cloth |
| 20:06.51 | tyroney | I know there's no good place to get wool cloth. |
| 20:06.52 | Garoun|Loupana | as in mob x drops 1 per kill, mob y drops 4 |
| 20:07.25 | Sstixrud | cladhaire: what will perform better "while true do" or" for i = 1, 40 do"? |
| 20:07.26 | JoshBorke | wool cloth = stockades |
| 20:07.28 | SniperFodder | I'm using Ui Designer. It makes creation of xml and lua sheets so easy |
| 20:07.31 | tyroney | Just about any database site will have that. ( wow.allakhazam.com and thottbot.com come to mind) Just search for the item, and check out what it drops from. |
| 20:07.33 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: for |
| 20:07.43 | cladhaire | Sstixrud: the for loop will |
| 20:07.43 | JoshBorke | it has specific optimizations within the lua compiler |
| 20:07.59 | cladhaire | you can see that my compiling it to opcodes and looking at what the compiler comes up with |
| 20:08.23 | Sstixrud | what if I just to also check for nill in the for loop tho like: if UnitBuff(arg1, 1) ~= nil then |
| 20:08.23 | Sstixrud | for i = 1, 16 do |
| 20:08.32 | JoshBorke | clad, you never answered my question (while i was around) |
| 20:08.38 | tyroney | Hmm. But isn't the stockades all elite and junk? (insert "poor me I don't want to kill elites to farm cloth" here) |
| 20:08.56 | Garoun|Loupana | well I'm a druid, so I hvae no problem with farming it |
| 20:08.59 | cladhaire | Sstixrud: just check within the loop, and use break to drop out of it. |
| 20:09.02 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: wassat? |
| 20:09.11 | Garoun|Loupana | I can kill most of that stuff in cat form easily |
| 20:09.12 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: how'd your funky arrow stuff work out? |
| 20:09.16 | cladhaire | great |
| 20:09.18 | cladhaire | i have the solution |
| 20:09.23 | JoshBorke | tyroney: yes, but i recommend it as doing it at 60+ |
| 20:09.25 | cladhaire | just need to finish cleaning my house so i can code it. |
| 20:09.25 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: which is? |
| 20:09.47 | cladhaire | i can use the model, and have it work exactly as current city waypoints work |
| 20:09.57 | JoshBorke | nifty |
| 20:10.05 | cladhaire | but i fell asleep on Friday when Tem simplified the formulas |
| 20:10.07 | tyroney | Right, I just like linen, since you can farm it easily at approximate level. And I want to say silk, too, but I don't really know, since there's always too much silk in the first place. |
| 20:10.26 | Sstixrud | clad you mean like: for i = 1, 16 do |
| 20:10.26 | Sstixrud | if UnitBuff(arg1, i) == nil then |
| 20:10.26 | Sstixrud | break |
| 20:10.39 | cladhaire | well, specifically |
| 20:10.40 | Sstixrud | sorry that was supposed to be on one line :| |
| 20:10.40 | cladhaire | for i=1,16 do |
| 20:10.52 | cladhaire | local name,rank,count = UnitBuff(arg1, i) |
| 20:10.56 | cladhaire | if not name then break |
| 20:10.57 | cladhaire | btu yes. |
| 20:11.02 | Sstixrud | ok thanks :) |
| 20:11.21 | cladhaire | there's an end missing on that last line, but you'll figure it out |
| 20:12.16 | Garoun|Loupana | silk is heavy in SFK if I remember correctly |
| 20:12.31 | SniperFodder | SFK? |
| 20:12.39 | SniperFodder | I remember SM for silk >_> |
| 20:12.41 | Sstixrud | clad - if you recall the code sample you gave me used "while true do" but you mentioned it could be optimized further. I found some cases where performance was less than ideal so I am trying to tune further |
| 20:12.48 | tyroney | No! No more silk! It doesn't even sell well. |
| 20:12.53 | cladhaire | well it shouldn't be in those cases. |
| 20:12.57 | cladhaire | this won't make a difference |
| 20:13.04 | cladhaire | one you can actually measure |
| 20:13.10 | tyroney | Ok, time to go. Thanks for, uh, everything you do. |
| 20:13.36 | cladhaire | and my code was like that, so you can loop through all buffs, regardless of how many there are. It would drop out at the same point in the code, but be able to cover cases where the user has 45 buffs, for example |
| 20:13.52 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm PLing my warlock tailoring tyroney, otherwise I wouldn't bother :P |
| 20:14.12 | Sstixrud | understood, I was going to just set the for loop to the max buff value and break out once I hit a nil |
| 20:14.21 | JoshBorke | silk is also heavy in SM |
| 20:14.27 | Sstixrud | but you are saying it wont make much of a diff? |
| 20:14.28 | cladhaire | where there is no max buff value |
| 20:14.30 | cladhaire | which is why i did that =) |
| 20:14.51 | cladhaire | there is a max debuff limit however |
| 20:15.03 | SniperFodder | which is? |
| 20:15.09 | Sstixrud | aww that must be where I am getting confused |
| 20:15.10 | Sstixrud | 40 I thought |
| 20:15.27 | SniperFodder | >_> I could never imagine a player with that many buff's on them |
| 20:15.45 | zenzelezz | probably no player, but try a boss in raids |
| 20:15.56 | SniperFodder | ah... |
| 20:16.07 | SniperFodder | those are debuff's though... |
| 20:16.14 | SniperFodder | oh well, same difference |
| 20:16.22 | Corrodias | every class has a few debuffs to apply |
| 20:16.41 | SniperFodder | lol, Reminds of of the 40 man raid of priests that downed onyxia |
| 20:16.45 | Corrodias | and in some cases, i think they'll stack |
| 20:17.17 | Garoun|Loupana | unless you are a durid trying to put lacerate on most major bosses :P |
| 20:17.20 | SniperFodder | aye. I can see it now... 400 druids drop 400 renews on one player.. |
| 20:17.21 | Garoun|Loupana | druid even |
| 20:18.00 | SniperFodder | gar, thinking out the steps of an addon is complicated |
| 20:18.11 | Garoun|Loupana | well yeah |
| 20:18.13 | Corrodias | i'd like to see that |
| 20:18.18 | Sstixrud | Is calling an external function expensive? i.e. would I save much by decreasing the function depth? |
| 20:18.34 | JoshBorke | not much |
| 20:18.40 | Corrodias | gather a few tens of druids and just dump buffs onto somebody |
| 20:18.55 | Sstixrud | k, this code path is only 3 functions deep anyways :| |
| 20:18.55 | Corrodias | i'd like to see what happens, i would |
| 20:19.32 | Garoun|Loupana | there's a nicebug with Prayer of Mending in regards to lower level people, and totems :( |
| 20:19.34 | SniperFodder | step 1, extroplate data from roster to table. Step 2, use only the rank datum. |
| 20:20.02 | SniperFodder | step 3, give up cause i don't know how to call those functions in the .lua file |
| 20:20.17 | Sstixrud | Should I redeclare an event's arg1 as a local variable before I use it deeper in my code? Or is it ok to pass arg1 down? |
| 20:20.50 | Garoun|Loupana | if you can't Prayer of Mending on yourself, and then get hit it'll jump to someone that is too low and work like normal |
| 20:21.06 | Garoun|Loupana | but withtotems it will also occasionaly jump to them |
| 20:21.14 | SniperFodder | lolz |
| 20:21.15 | Garoun|Loupana | god I can't type |
| 20:21.24 | cladhaire | there is potentially a buff limit |
| 20:21.24 | SniperFodder | nobody can <_< |
| 20:21.29 | cladhaire | but we dont know where it is. |
| 20:21.36 | cladhaire | =) |
| 20:21.48 | SniperFodder | Call blizzard up and ask them. They are the ones that programmed WoW >_> They should know |
| 20:22.05 | cladhaire | yeah, i'll just ring up the bluephone |
| 20:22.05 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 20:22.06 | cladhaire | =) |
| 20:22.12 | zenzelezz | with stacking HoTs and stuff I've seen quite a few buffs on me on occasion |
| 20:22.14 | SniperFodder | hehe |
| 20:22.29 | SniperFodder | I'd love to see that >_> |
| 20:22.35 | Sstixrud | cladhaire - should I redeclare an event's arg1 as a local variable before using it deeper in my code or does it not much matter? |
| 20:22.38 | SniperFodder | CT_Buffmod would be like "WTH?" |
| 20:22.56 | cladhaire | you should have it locally |
| 20:23.00 | cladhaire | if you're doing even handling properly |
| 20:23.15 | cladhaire | OnEvent is passed frame,event,... |
| 20:23.24 | cladhaire | or rather, self, event, ... |
| 20:23.28 | cladhaire | where ... is arg1-9 |
| 20:23.45 | Sstixrud | ok, I should also declare my for k,v locally down in my button status section i would guess |
| 20:23.48 | JoshBorke | yea, that annoying me at first |
| 20:24.00 | cladhaire | not sure what you mean |
| 20:24.25 | SniperFodder | You know, this kind of reminds me of the DX IRC Channel i used to be on >_> |
| 20:24.40 | SniperFodder | only everyone here actually talks about editing |
| 20:24.51 | Kaso | Not always |
| 20:25.03 | Kaso | sometimes we like to talk about random stuff :> |
| 20:25.05 | Sstixrud | the code sample you gave me calls an external function that searches through the buff/debuff button configuration table and changes the button visual status depending on a match |
| 20:25.14 | Sstixrud | I am not declaring the k,v as local before I use it |
| 20:25.46 | SniperFodder | Like Jim's Bed? And the taco's that are not under Jim's Bed? |
| 20:25.57 | Kaso | you are using k,v in a for pairs() loop Sstixrud ? |
| 20:26.04 | Sstixrud | ya |
| 20:26.13 | Kaso | theyre local innately |
| 20:26.32 | Sstixrud | for k,v in pairs(UBVAR.DYNEVENTS[arg1].Debuff) do ; _G[k]:SetAlpha(.1) |
| 20:26.35 | Sstixrud | so what I am doing |
| 20:26.49 | Sstixrud | so you are saing I don't need to make "k" a local variable? |
| 20:26.56 | Kaso | nope |
| 20:27.19 | Kaso | k and v are local variables with scope set just to the content of that loop |
| 20:27.22 | Sstixrud | k, hmm well off to dinner ill worry about further optimization later I guess :) |
| 20:27.30 | Sstixrud | ok thanks :) |
| 20:28.50 | SniperFodder | Gah, I can play project manager but i definatly Can not write the addon >_< |
| 20:33.05 | SniperFodder | Do you think that DuckNet would be a good addon to use to transmit data from one user to the next? |
| 20:33.59 | Kaso | what is Ducknet? |
| 20:34.34 | SniperFodder | Ever hear of DuckieBank? |
| 20:35.05 | Kaso | I have now |
| 20:35.23 | SniperFodder | DuckieBank is basicly an addon that shares the bankers contents with other users. The addon uses DuckNet to transmit the data tables from one user to the next |
| 20:35.36 | cladhaire | ? |
| 20:35.39 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: do you have approval permissions on wowi? |
| 20:35.50 | cladhaire | yes |
| 20:36.04 | SniperFodder | lol |
| 20:36.11 | SniperFodder | there we go |
| 20:36.14 | SniperFodder | >_> |
| 20:36.28 | Kaso | In my opinion forcing libs obsque libs onto addons is a bad idea, write your own AddonMessage code, the blizzard API is sufficient |
| 20:36.37 | Kaso | *obscure |
| 20:37.23 | SniperFodder | I could write my own code... only I'm not very good at programing |
| 20:37.47 | SniperFodder | in fact, I may be only able to build the frame, and have to have someoen else build the actual .lua file |
| 20:39.01 | Kaso | SendAddonMessage("MyAddon"SomeMessage here","RAID") OnEvent() if event=="CHAT_MSG_ADDON" then dosomething() end |
| 20:39.07 | Kaso | code done! |
| 20:39.23 | SniperFodder | cool >_> |
| 20:40.00 | SniperFodder | what if there is alot of data though? won't blizz dump the user if they user over 255 char? |
| 20:40.07 | SniperFodder | use* |
| 20:40.34 | Kaso | actually its more like 250 for send addon message :> |
| 20:40.51 | Kaso | but its not that hard to split the message |
| 20:41.36 | SniperFodder | True. Thats what DuckNet was supposed to do, split the datum up for tramsitting, then re-assemble it. |
| 20:41.43 | SniperFodder | then again, it was built for DuckieBank |
| 20:42.40 | Kaso | The problem with libs like that is by using it you suddenly get a whole chunk of code you have no use for and will just sit idley in the memory, whereas if you code some yourself, it will be perfectly suited and do the job you need without any overhead |
| 20:43.15 | SniperFodder | Makes sense |
| 20:44.19 | Kaso | If you are going to use a lib you should use a lib which other lots of other addons use, so its possible that the code will get re-used on the client's system |
| 20:44.25 | JoshBorke | thanks clad :-) |
| 20:44.36 | Kaso | like Ace or Cosmos or something along those lines |
| 20:44.59 | cladhaire | i didn't approve it |
| 20:45.00 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:45.06 | SniperFodder | Hmm, Ace sounds like a good library |
| 20:45.18 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 20:45.23 | SniperFodder | Description: |
| 20:45.23 | SniperFodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.23 | SniperFodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.41 | Kaso | Well what is good and what is bad is a topic of alot of discussion, which i wouldnt want to comment on |
| 20:46.03 | SniperFodder | okay, my bad, let me re-phrase that |
| 20:46.16 | SniperFodder | Ace sounds like a library that alot of people use >_> |
| 20:46.22 | Kaso | That is true |
| 20:46.25 | JoshBorke | thanks whoever approved it :-P |
| 20:47.01 | Cairenn|afk | welcoem |
| 20:47.05 | Cairenn|afk | welcome* |
| 20:47.18 | cladhaire | she has hax |
| 20:47.18 | SniperFodder | this is what I found on the duckmod website |
| 20:47.18 | cladhaire | imo |
| 20:47.40 | SniperFodder | DuckNet is an addon designed to help other addons transmit data between them. There is an API available for addon developers, designed to help facilitate the transmissions. |
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| 20:48.01 | SniperFodder | ugh, My copy and paste was lagging >_> |
| 20:48.06 | Kaso | dont paste loads of text :> |
| 20:48.18 | Kaso | ive read the ducky site |
| 20:48.20 | SniperFodder | yea, sorry bout that. |
| 20:48.53 | SniperFodder | was supposed to be short. But my comp lagged and i happened to paste it like 20 times |
| 20:49.13 | Kaso | we only saw one before the network kicked you so its ok |
| 20:49.16 | Cairenn|afk | wowi.pastey.net |
| 20:49.55 | SniperFodder | kk, sounds good tome |
| 20:49.58 | SniperFodder | to me* |
| 20:50.00 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn|afk |
| 20:50.01 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 20:50.03 | Cairenn|afk | it's in the channel topic :p |
| 20:50.10 | Cairenn|afk | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 20:50.12 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on JoshBorke and suddenly hugs JoshBorke tightly |
| 20:50.28 | JoshBorke | so who set the topic? |
| 20:50.30 | JoshBorke | making fun of me :-( |
| 20:50.43 | Kaso | Anyway my point is this Lib are only good in my opinion, under the condition that the extra code you are getting from implementing the lib is being re used by some other addon on the system |
| 20:50.51 | Kaso | otherwise i'd rather have homegrown code. |
| 20:51.28 | SniperFodder | Well, since my guild is going to be using this addon, DuckieBank will also be installed so it too will be using it >_> |
| 20:51.42 | JoshBorke | but how can you know that another addon is using the lib? |
| 20:51.57 | SniperFodder | Dependancies >_> |
| 20:52.06 | Kaso | You dont, which is why i usualy shy away from Libs Josh :> |
| 20:52.07 | SniperFodder | DuckieBank needs it to run |
| 20:52.16 | Kaso | every member is going to gave the Duckiebank addon? |
| 20:52.27 | SniperFodder | Yea, Or else they won't know whats in the bank |
| 20:52.31 | Kaso | Your guild keeps track of every persons bank content? |
| 20:52.38 | SniperFodder | no, just the bankers |
| 20:52.43 | Kaso | oh you need the addon to view the guild bank |
| 20:52.51 | SniperFodder | si |
| 20:52.55 | Kaso | Yucky |
| 20:53.13 | Kaso | fair enough |
| 20:53.24 | SniperFodder | Yea, Well unfortantly i don't have any other addon to print to a webpage the bank contents |
| 20:53.24 | Kaso | the lib seems a good choice for your case then |
| 20:54.01 | SniperFodder | I was using GuildBanker, but when they updated the addon, they forgot to update the .exe that parses the information into HTML Format |
| 20:54.24 | SniperFodder | I prefer this one better because then you don't even have to visit the website. |
| 20:56.11 | SniperFodder | I'm thinking of looking at GuildGreet's Code. They have a function that looks at the Roster data |
| 20:57.33 | Kaso | Umm ok? |
| 20:58.19 | SniperFodder | My addon basicly keeps track of when someone was promoted last |
| 20:58.46 | SniperFodder | I just want to get an idea of what functions i'll need to use to get ahold of the roster data |
| 21:00.09 | Cairenn|afk | JoshBorke: you should know by now, I snag a random comment from the channel and toss it up in the topic for a while, till the next time I feel like changing it :p |
| 21:01.28 | SniperFodder | Note to self: Avoid typing usable comments. |
| 21:02.00 | Cairenn|afk | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowi-lounge.html.gz |
| 21:02.18 | Cairenn|afk | it's amazing the things that become "usable" comments, when taken out of context ;) |
| 21:03.21 | SniperFodder | lol |
| 21:04.14 | Cairenn|afk | but no, purl takes a random comment from the top "talkers" in the channel on any given day and puts them on that site, then I go in and pick something I like from there and put it in the topic |
| 21:05.20 | Kaso | dear god im 6th most spammiest? i should be quiet more |
| 21:05.30 | Cairenn|afk | lol, that day |
| 21:05.54 | sysrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.14 | zenzelezz | means I'll never be in the topic, all I do is make comments :-o |
| 21:06.21 | zenzelezz | probably for the better too |
| 21:07.05 | Kaso | cladhaire has quite a potty mouth. haha |
| 21:07.11 | cladhaire | lol |
| 21:07.38 | SniperFodder | lets order some pizza |
| 21:07.42 | SniperFodder | i'm hungry >_> |
| 21:09.51 | SniperFodder | afk |
| 21:12.47 | JoshBorke | purl thinks i'm a talker? |
| 21:12.50 | JoshBorke | uh oh |
| 21:13.21 | JoshBorke | lol, top talker with a wopping 16 lines |
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| 21:22.22 | JoshBorke | nerfed was one of the most used words |
| 21:22.23 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 21:22.28 | Kaso | haha |
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| 21:39.57 | SniperFodder | Ah ha! Awome. I love amplify curse >_> |
| 21:40.06 | SniperFodder | I can't wait for curse of exhaustion |
| 21:43.39 | SniperFodder | Lol, Cool. That is such an awsome program >_> Pizza Party FTW |
| 21:43.55 | SniperFodder | brb |
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| 21:51.43 | Kindari | if I have the variable Aaa[Bbb].Ccc = "ddd" does it work to just say print Ccc ? or would Ccc be a whole diffrent variable? |
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| 21:53.46 | Kaso | hu? |
| 21:53.46 | Kindari | ok like |
| 21:53.47 | Kindari | i have this array and i have a variable... Aaa[Bbb].Ccc = "ddd" |
| 21:53.47 | Kindari | and |
| 21:53.49 | Kindari | i want to use that somewhere else |
| 21:54.31 | Kindari | if i say Ccc = Aaa[Bbb].Ccc would i be like defining the variable with itself or is Ccc different from Aaa[Bbb].Ccc |
| 21:54.43 | Kindari | could Ccc = 1 and Aaa[Bbb].Ccc = 2 ? |
| 21:54.44 | Kaso | Ccc is just the string index of a table |
| 21:54.59 | Kaso | yes the line above could be possible |
| 21:55.04 | Kindari | ok |
| 21:55.16 | Kindari | so they're considered different |
| 21:56.21 | Kaso | Aaa[Bbb].Ccc = "ddd" is the same as Aaa={[Bbb]={["Ccc"]="ddd"}} (note Bbb is not a string but a variable containing some sort of index) |
| 21:56.34 | Kindari | right |
| 21:57.00 | Kindari | i sort of understand that... at least, it works in my mod :) |
| 21:57.21 | cogwheel | actually, it's more like Aaa[Bbb]["Ccc"] = "ddd" |
| 21:57.35 | Kindari | I'm just learning how to setup and call saved variables |
| 21:57.49 | cogwheel | .Ccc is just syntactic sugar for ["Ccc"] |
| 21:57.57 | Kindari | right |
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| 22:01.04 | Kindari | how do i make a function use a variable as part of its name? |
| 22:01.22 | Kindari | like Function StartThe<variablename> () |
| 22:02.03 | Kindari | or using arguments |
| 22:02.07 | Kindari | still figuring that out |
| 22:02.09 | Kaso | umm, i guess the only way to do _G["StartThe"..variable]= function(args) --stuff end |
| 22:02.27 | Kaso | its not a very common situation to have, why do you need to dynamically define functions? |
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| 22:02.44 | Kindari | well |
| 22:02.48 | Kindari | i'm making a progress bar |
| 22:02.58 | Kindari | and i want to say, change what it's displaying |
| 22:03.28 | Kindari | so when you make that change i want to call a function called SetBarMode<variable> () |
| 22:03.46 | Kindari | and that will run the appropriate function to display the differnet bar |
| 22:04.00 | wereHamster | Kindari, rather than creating functions with different names, I'd create a table and use <variablename> as the undex, something like StartThe={}; StartThe[<variablename>]=function() .. end |
| 22:04.03 | Kindari | or... maybe there's a better way of going about that |
| 22:04.46 | Kindari | hmmm |
| 22:06.02 | Kaso | wouldnt to just be easier to have one centeral function and pass the variable as an argument, then use some logic inside the function to decide what to do |
| 22:06.24 | Kindari | that is also what i was thinking of kaso... not really sure how to do it : ) |
| 22:06.39 | Kindari | can you pass a variable as an argument? |
| 22:07.01 | Kaso | uh yes |
| 22:07.03 | Kindari | er, i guess you can |
| 22:07.04 | Kindari | duh |
| 22:07.06 | Kindari | lol |
| 22:07.26 | Kaso | local fred="hi" DoStuff(fred) |
| 22:08.17 | Kindari | why do you need to pass things as an argument then. couldn't you just say "if fred then xxxx end" without passing the variable as an argument? |
| 22:08.22 | Kindari | that's where i'm confused |
| 22:08.38 | zenzelezz | only if it's a global |
| 22:08.43 | Kindari | oh ok |
| 22:08.54 | Kindari | is using global variabls bad? |
| 22:09.21 | Kaso | usually yes |
| 22:09.30 | Kindari | hmm |
| 22:09.46 | Kindari | i don't even know if my mod is full of them or not : ( |
| 22:10.33 | Kaso | most new addon coders tend to use globals without knowing the differnce |
| 22:10.43 | haste | if you don't know, then it most likely is full of them |
| 22:10.53 | Kindari | lol awesome |
| 22:11.03 | Kindari | it must be like the "amateurs mark" |
| 22:11.18 | Kindari | like lens flares in photoshop |
| 22:11.22 | Kaso | haha |
| 22:11.56 | Kindari | ok so a local variable is one that only exists wihtin the function its created in, right? |
| 22:12.19 | Kaso | well, block of code to be specific |
| 22:12.41 | Kindari | how do you determine what is in or out of that "block" of code? |
| 22:13.21 | Kaso | Well everything is in a block of code to some degree, be it your lua file, a function within that file, a loop within that function |
| 22:13.53 | Kindari | so if i define a local variable outside of any functions, then it will work on any code in that lua file? |
| 22:14.07 | Kaso | yes |
| 22:14.11 | Kindari | i see i see |
| 22:14.29 | Kindari | are saved variables considered global? |
| 22:14.38 | wereHamster | yes |
| 22:14.41 | Kindari | ok |
| 22:14.50 | Kindari | all is making more sense |
| 22:16.01 | Kindari | to make it local i have to say "local variable = x;" right, as opposed to just "variable = x;" |
| 22:16.30 | wereHamster | yep |
| 22:16.50 | Gnarfoz | english skills decreasing... what's the textile stuff you put on the walls and then paint called again? |
| 22:16.57 | Gnarfoz | ~x de en tapete |
| 22:17.03 | Gnarfoz | dang |
| 22:17.04 | Gnarfoz | ;> |
| 22:17.32 | Gnarfoz | hm, google sketchup doesn't have wallpapers :\ |
| 22:17.38 | wereHamster | function arguments are considered local, so function doit(that) that="something" end won't create a global variable |
| 22:17.44 | Kindari | does using global variables mean more memory usage or just danger of beign the same as someone elses? |
| 22:18.01 | Kaso | locals are quicker to access than globals |
| 22:18.38 | Kaso | also using globals "eats up" the global namespace, which means theres more properbilty of other addon's variables over-lapping yours and causing problems |
| 22:19.11 | Kindari | right |
| 22:19.18 | Kindari | so far i've just been using pretty unique names |
| 22:19.25 | Kindari | i'm making them all local now |
| 22:24.30 | Kaso | I tend to make my addons frame, then make a local reference to that frame, then have all my "addon" scoped variables as entries in that table, im not really sure how effcient that is, but i like it as its quite "neat" |
| 22:30.37 | Kindari | interesting |
| 22:33.25 | JoshBorke | i do the same |
| 22:33.58 | Shadowed | Odd question but, how would you detect a "flipped" texture? Trying to detect a difference in casting bars/health bars and thats the last thing I can think of thats accurate :/ |
| 22:35.10 | Kaso | flipped? |
| 22:35.25 | Kindari | so if my addon's main frame w as called "jack" you make do local jack = {} |
| 22:35.46 | Kaso | Nono |
| 22:35.50 | Kaso | Frames are tables already |
| 22:35.58 | Kindari | ooOOoo |
| 22:36.03 | Kaso | you would do |
| 22:36.04 | Shadowed | Kaso: they share the same Nameplate-Border texture, but the "box" that level/cast icon goes in is flipped |
| 22:36.07 | Kaso | local jack = jack |
| 22:36.35 | Kaso | rotated ? |
| 22:36.58 | Shadowed | rotated would be a better word, yeah |
| 22:37.31 | Kaso | i believe Texture:GetTexCoord() would indicate that somehow, i dont remeber off the top of my head the details though |
| 22:37.56 | Kaso | lots of infomation im too lazy to read here: http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations |
| 22:39.03 | Shadowed | wiki slow or is it me? |
| 22:39.16 | Kaso | works ok for me |
| 22:39.24 | Shadowed | odd |
| 22:43.17 | Shadowed | that makes no sense, the coords are the same for both |
| 22:44.47 | Kaso | I dont totally know, i thought rotation was done using TextCoords but as i say im too lazy to read up on it, ive never had to do it |
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| 22:45.57 | tyroney | Ok, anyone here used frame:SetBackdrop() ? I just tried, and it didn't seem to. |
| 22:49.47 | cladhaire | tyroney: You can test it with frame:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) |
| 22:49.49 | cladhaire | to verify nothing is wrong |
| 22:50.08 | tyroney | Good idear. I'll see what that does. |
| 22:54.54 | Shadowed | hrm, how would you get all of fuctions of a frame without having to do a manual listing? |
| 22:56.55 | tyroney | Yeargh. Now I have to determin which of my arguments are bad. |
| 22:59.00 | Kaso | Shadowed you can itterate over the getmetable(FrameName).__index |
| 22:59.21 | tyroney | add a "ta" in the middle of that. |
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| 23:03.08 | Kirkburn | Good news for priests? http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/79200279.htm |
| 23:03.55 | JoshBorke | i like to do: for index, val in pairs(farme) do if (type(val) == 'function') then blah end end |
| 23:05.50 | Shadowed | alright thanks |
| 23:06.37 | JoshBorke | Kirkburn: so uh, where's the good news again? |
| 23:06.42 | JoshBorke | an invisible buff? |
| 23:06.49 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
| 23:06.54 | JoshBorke | i'm very disappointed by the PoM cooldown :-( |
| 23:06.58 | JoshBorke | i'd rather see it at 10 seconds than 20 |
| 23:06.59 | Kirkburn | A buff that isn't yet known, sheesh :) |
| 23:07.08 | Shadowed | I though it was shortten to 6s? |
| 23:07.25 | Kaso | the curren beta build has no cooldown |
| 23:07.34 | Kaso | but i think thats a bug :> |
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| 23:11.36 | tyroney | Ok, where's a link to the code to print out anything. (say a table full of values and another table? |
| 23:11.43 | Kaso | ~devtools |
| 23:11.54 | purl | rumour has it, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta |
| 23:11.55 | JoshBorke | bah! |
| 23:11.55 | JoshBorke | beaten |
| 23:11.55 | tyroney | Woo. |
| 23:11.55 | Kaso | purl is dead it seems |
| 23:11.57 | Kaso | oh there |
| 23:26.24 | Shadowed | Alright well I guess I have to just do a string find to figure out what the frame is for |
| 23:27.37 | Kaso | what do you mean shadowed? |
| 23:28.07 | Shadowed | Kaso: Do a string find on GetValue() to see if it's a float |
| 23:28.18 | Shadowed | health bars never have a float value, casting do |
| 23:28.51 | Kaso | woah |
| 23:28.58 | Shadowed | ? |
| 23:29.00 | Kaso | thats pretty clever |
| 23:29.13 | tyroney | AHA! It was a lack of the ol' doubled-backslash. |
| 23:29.20 | Shadowed | I don't really like having to do that, but oh well! |
| 23:29.39 | Kaso | was this connected to your functions of the frame question before? |
| 23:30.06 | Shadowed | Yeah, I was going to try looping through all of the Get values, storing them and comparing to see if I could find a difference. But I couldn't figure out how to call them so i just tried GetValue searching |
| 23:30.07 | tyroney | Yup. My SetBackdrop didn't have doubled slashes in the texture strings, so they died. |
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| 23:30.55 | Kaso | well surely a Casting Bar and a HP bar are would both be statusbars thus have the same functions? |
| 23:31.21 | SniperFodder | >_> |
| 23:31.33 | Shadowed | They are, but I didn't want to make a list of 10-15 functions if somebody had a better way |
| 23:31.36 | SniperFodder | This sounds like a problem that ArcHUD Works with |
| 23:32.13 | SniperFodder | It monitors those numbers. Maybe you could look at their code? |
| 23:33.09 | Shadowed | I know how to monitor the GetValue/MinMaxValues, but I don't really like having to do a string.find to figure out if it's a flaot |
| 23:33.36 | Kaso | cant you just do some maths |
| 23:34.19 | Kaso | i mean the return for the casitng bar is slightly off due to presision right? so round it to the nearest interger and compare with the "real" value if its differnt then its a casting bar |
| 23:34.52 | Shadowed | oh, good idea actually |
| 23:42.05 | Shadowed | Kaso: Perfect, seems to work 100% |
| 23:43.51 | SniperFodder | Coolio >_> |
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| 23:56.17 | tyroney | Phew. Break time. My mind grows weary. |
| 23:59.29 | JoshBorke | :( there's an advertisement for LOTR: Online on WoWI :-( |
| 23:59.49 | Tem|AFK | adblock is your friend |