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| 00:44.36 | Sstixrud | question... A mod I am writting is scanning debuffType = UnitDebuff(arg1, i) and for every curse, magic, posion, disease it does something... this part works fine.. The problem I am having is I also want to do something specific when one of the previous afflictions goes away. However I havent been able to find an efficent method of determining what went away |
| 00:44.57 | Sstixrud | any ideas? |
| 00:46.21 | Kaso | maintain a table of current buffs then see what disapeared on a Fade event |
| 00:46.28 | Kaso | ? |
| 00:47.21 | Sstixrud | well I considered that, but I was hoping to not have to track previous states for performance reasons |
| 00:47.44 | Sstixrud | but I guess I may have too |
| 00:47.45 | Kaso | Well, umm, the event gives you "So and so fades from you" does it not? |
| 00:48.16 | Sstixrud | I am not sure, right now I am just passing arg1 from UNIT_AURA event |
| 00:48.21 | Sstixrud | which is target |
| 00:49.23 | Kaso | Also, about your cooldowns, i had a slightly over-complicated idea, you hide the default cooldowns, then create yourself an array of cooldowns not connected to the buttons (so not secure), but visably over-layed, then manually set the cooldowns on them when the various events fire. Overcomplicated and pointless, but doable :> |
| 00:49.45 | Sstixrud | heh |
| 00:50.08 | Kaso | Check out the event CHAT_MSG_SPELL_AURA_GONE_SELF |
| 00:50.28 | Sstixrud | does it track for party/raid members? |
| 00:50.55 | Sstixrud | checking for party/raid chat msg's |
| 00:51.07 | Kaso | There is _PARTY _RAID and _OTHER i believe |
| 00:51.15 | Kaso | off the top of my head |
| 00:51.52 | Kaso | party self and other |
| 00:52.30 | Sstixrud | hmm parsing a string for specific words and tracking word order would likely be more expensive than a table lookup no? |
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| 00:52.55 | Sstixrud | well table write and table lookup |
| 00:53.34 | Kaso | perhaps yes |
| 00:53.45 | Kaso | it'd be sensible to do the table method i think |
| 00:55.18 | Sstixrud | Hmmm I guess I could also determine what to do based on the buttons current alpha state. I.e. assume if btn:GetAlpha() = 1 that it was active prior to this new event |
| 00:55.58 | Sstixrud | hmm would that work... |
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| 03:01.00 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 03:01.10 | purl | ACTION jumps into JoshBorke's lap and huggles and *hugs* JoshBorke |
| 03:01.45 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 03:01.47 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn tightly until Cairenn turns slightly blue |
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| 03:05.27 | JoshBorke | wb Cair |
| 03:08.04 | Sstixrud | if I have a for i = 1, 40 do and for each interation I wanted to dump a insert a variable into a table how would I do that? |
| 03:08.31 | Sstixrud | err I can't speak today :| |
| 03:08.47 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
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| 03:21.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell yeah |
| 03:21.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | a little propaganda goes a long way |
| 03:21.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of hawking my random blue world drop like normal people do |
| 03:22.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was like [Cloak of the Craft] on the AH, cheapest one there! only 45g! look at all that attack power and agility, you know you want it! |
| 03:22.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and sure enough, it sold within a few minutes :D |
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| 04:11.00 | Tierrie | Hey how do you check for CheckInteractDistance for 10-20 |
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| 04:14.32 | tingle | hi |
| 04:14.34 | tingle | got a question |
| 04:14.41 | Cairenn | hi |
| 04:14.44 | Tierrie | I hi |
| 04:14.48 | Tierrie | Cairenn |
| 04:14.48 | tingle | if (UnitBuff("player") == "Cloak of Shadows") then CastSpellByName("Evasion(Rank 2)"); end |
| 04:15.02 | Tierrie | UnitBuff returns a list |
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| 04:15.39 | tingle | i want to cast evasion if cloak of shadows is currently activ |
| 04:16.13 | tingle | how i do that |
| 04:16.33 | pastamancer | tingle: you can't programatically cast spells |
| 04:16.58 | Tierrie | instead what you can probably do is to do a castsequence and set it to timeout with the duration of the cloak of shadows |
| 04:17.23 | tingle | hmm |
| 04:17.59 | tingle | ok well basicly i want to do a cast sequence with my mage, for example cast bread then water then mana stone and other things |
| 04:18.04 | tingle | how can i make a script that does that |
| 04:18.12 | Tierrie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:18.27 | Tierrie | there are some good examples on wowwiki with "mage macro" as the keywords |
| 04:20.06 | tingle | does reset=12 the 12 mean how many seconds it waits untill it casts the next? |
| 04:20.18 | Tierrie | yes |
| 04:20.21 | Tierrie | no |
| 04:20.23 | Tierrie | no, no no |
| 04:20.36 | Tierrie | reset means that 12 seconds after you start the sequence, it will reset to the first spell |
| 04:20.47 | tingle | oh |
| 04:20.55 | Tierrie | so if your macro is reset=12, cast a, b, c, d, e |
| 04:20.59 | Tierrie | and you go a, b, c |
| 04:21.03 | Tierrie | and then run away or something |
| 04:21.17 | Tierrie | it will reset to a again when you hit the button next, instead of d |
| 04:21.29 | Tierrie | if you don't reset it, it will cast d |
| 04:22.06 | Tierrie | so what you probably want is /castsequence reset=(whatever duration of cloak is) Cloak of Shadows, Evasion |
| 04:22.06 | JoshBorke | mores makes me sad :-( |
| 04:22.11 | Tierrie | moroes? |
| 04:22.19 | JoshBorke | moroes rather |
| 04:22.28 | Tierrie | hey Josh do you know how to check for distances between 10 and 20 yards |
| 04:22.28 | JoshBorke | wiped on him 5 times today :-( |
| 04:22.33 | JoshBorke | can't |
| 04:22.41 | JoshBorke | 20 yards is about the range for the overhead bars though |
| 04:23.00 | JoshBorke | so you can iterate over those that are shown and check for CheckInteract distance and can get a gestimate |
| 04:23.08 | Tierrie | what overhead bars |
| 04:23.16 | JoshBorke | the statusbars |
| 04:23.34 | Tierrie | ah you could just check to see they are showing i guess |
| 04:23.46 | Tierrie | do you need it up to iterate over mobs with them showing? |
| 04:25.26 | tingle | ok look: |
| 04:25.39 | tingle | ./castsequence reset=45 Conjure Mana Emerald, Conjure Mana Ruby, Conjure Mana Citrine, Conjure Mana Jade, Conjure Mana Agate |
| 04:25.53 | tingle | is there a way to do that without it starting over again? |
| 04:26.13 | tingle | or just use /cast instead of /castsequence |
| 04:26.16 | JoshBorke | what do you mean tierre? |
| 04:28.37 | tingle | ? |
| 04:29.33 | tingle | i dont get it :( |
| 04:29.49 | tingle | how do i know what to put the reset |
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| 04:32.19 | tingle | ah i understand |
| 04:32.27 | tingle | cast sequence isnt automaticly |
| 04:32.57 | tingle | it doesnt cast each spell after eachother it casts the next one in line everytime i click on it |
| 04:33.05 | tingle | uh that isnt what i want |
| 04:33.20 | tingle | is there anything to cast each spell 1 time automaticly |
| 04:36.39 | tingle | ??? |
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| 04:54.14 | Tem | Kirkburn|afk, poke? |
| 04:54.19 | Kirkburn|afk | yo |
| 04:54.32 | Tem | when is wowwiki gonna get a favicon? |
| 04:54.46 | Tem | it needs one hella bad |
| 04:55.08 | Kirkburn|afk | I made one about a month ago, but it never got implemented :P |
| 04:55.11 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll poke them again |
| 04:55.41 | Tem | bah |
| 04:55.48 | Tem | I've been using this extention: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/3780/ |
| 04:56.08 | Tem | and not having a favicon for wowwiki is the suck |
| 04:56.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, I see |
| 04:58.00 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll see what I can do - the icon we use isn't easily turned into a favicon unfortunately |
| 05:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still don't know what the firefox search plugin uses as an icon |
| 05:10.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | it kinda looks like the essence of air icon |
| 05:12.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/skins/common/images/wiki.png |
| 05:12.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | kinda looks nice as one, since firefox turns images into thumbnails the size of favicons in the favicon spot |
| 05:13.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | just scaling it down to favicon size seems to look good in my browser, |
| 05:13.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | or give it a grey background even |
| 05:15.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll see what i can do with it :O |
| 05:18.36 | cladhaire | I really wish there was a way to tell someone of the other faction that you want to help them |
| 05:18.40 | cladhaire | if theyll help you |
| 05:18.47 | JoshBork1 | i like to MC and buff them |
| 05:19.14 | cladhaire | theres like 300 horde on my server |
| 05:19.18 | cladhaire | so it sthe only way i get this shit done |
| 05:20.42 | haste | http://youtube.com/watch?v=CLxMN5YMS3A |
| 05:22.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love mc'ing people and just making them dance around |
| 05:23.01 | JoshBork1 | i can't dance while i have someone MC'd :-( |
| 05:23.05 | JoshBork1 | so i don't get to see their dance |
| 05:23.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | no but you can spam q and e |
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| 05:38.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Mr_Rabies2, what you described above is pretty much exactly what I did |
| 05:38.23 | Kirkburn|afk | The problem is, if the BG is transparent, you can't see it. |
| 05:39.07 | Kirkburn|afk | And with a grey bg, you looks out of place :/ |
| 05:39.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | wha |
| 05:39.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i scaled it down in PS with a black background and it looked pretty good |
| 05:39.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a favicon |
| 05:39.21 | Kirkburn|afk | That's what I gave to the owner, but he didn't like it >.< |
| 05:39.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't bother straightening it though |
| 05:39.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'd probably be more crisp if it was straight |
| 05:39.40 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll try again though |
| 05:39.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't you have like a wikipoll for those things or something |
| 05:40.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not very well versed in wiki politics |
| 05:40.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Nah, too much effort for something so small :) |
| 05:40.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just know wikipedia is tearing itself apart with beauracracy |
| 05:40.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Indeed |
| 05:42.04 | cladhaire | thats what killed me about the template change |
| 05:42.06 | cladhaire | so much talk |
| 05:42.08 | cladhaire | no action |
| 05:42.14 | cladhaire | its why i'm not more active in the wowwiki community =) |
| 05:42.23 | cladhaire | i'd repeatedly stab myself in the face |
| 05:43.33 | Kirkburn|afk | DJ Pie Safety! http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/safety/ |
| 05:43.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Aww, clad :( |
| 05:44.04 | cladhaire | its true tho =) |
| 05:44.20 | cladhaire | i'd be too willing to argue a side of an argument i dont believe in |
| 05:44.23 | cladhaire | just to keep peopel talking |
| 05:44.30 | Kirkburn|afk | What template, anyways? |
| 05:44.32 | cladhaire | so shit doesn't stagnate =) |
| 05:44.35 | cladhaire | the BC template |
| 05:44.40 | cladhaire | the first thing i ever really posted |
| 05:44.42 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah right |
| 05:44.43 | cladhaire | cause i was bored at work |
| 05:44.47 | cladhaire | and village pump is deivl |
| 05:44.51 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 05:45.18 | Kirkburn|afk | Basically, you just have to be relaxed around the wiki - if everything tries to proceed at lightning pace, it all falls apart |
| 05:45.27 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 05:45.29 | cladhaire | i understand that |
| 05:45.32 | Kirkburn|afk | And, uh, I admit some guilt over the BC template :P |
| 05:45.46 | cladhaire | i know, its just an example. |
| 05:45.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Just been busy on other things |
| 05:45.49 | cladhaire | =) |
| 05:45.57 | JoshBork1 | *cry* moroes > us :-( |
| 05:46.02 | Kirkburn|afk | We get there in the end :D |
| 05:46.03 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: paladins imo |
| 05:52.34 | JoshBork1 | cladhaire: agreed |
| 05:52.43 | JoshBork1 | it sucks because our best geared priest sucks |
| 05:53.00 | JoshBork1 | and drinks during raids |
| 05:53.52 | cladhaire | ours smokes up |
| 05:54.07 | JoshBork1 | that and we all need gear |
| 05:54.31 | Corrodias | okay, i'm getting disconnected sometimes. is there any way to determine why? |
| 05:54.42 | Corrodias | is one of my addons asking for an invalid itemid? is one of them sending too much data? |
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| 05:55.12 | Corrodias | it happens about once per day, so it's not reproducable |
| 05:58.39 | JoshBork1 | er, is the current toc 2003 or 20003? |
| 06:09.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | 20003 |
| 06:09.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | though technically it should be 20300 but |
| 06:09.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's arbitrary i guess |
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| 06:28.22 | Tem | Mr_Rabies2, no it shouldn't |
| 06:29.06 | Tem | 2.0.3 = 20 00 3 |
| 06:30.10 | Tem | or maybe it's 20 0 03 |
| 06:30.13 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 06:31.59 | Tem | or maybe 2 00 03 |
| 06:32.08 | Tem | I like the last one the most |
| 06:41.14 | Tem | yeah, I think it's the last one |
| 06:41.33 | Tem | makes 2.1.0 come out to 2 01 00 (20100) |
| 07:12.17 | tlund | Tem: yes, 2.0.3 is 2 00 03 |
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| 08:12.11 | Mike-N-Go | Mounts should be 2 seater.. |
| 08:27.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Britney Spears has completely shaven her head. Just thought you'd like to know. Note I said HEAD. |
| 08:28.59 | wobin | ... |
| 08:29.06 | wobin | And one eyebrow? =) |
| 08:29.13 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 08:29.21 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not joking btw, there's a picture on BBC News |
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| 08:30.10 | wobin | Oh I never doubted the veracity of the claim |
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| 08:38.52 | debomb | i would like to help out in the addons. and wanted know were i can be of help and/or were to start. |
| 08:47.45 | Corrodias | i have learned that even as a balance/restoration druid i have pvp potential |
| 08:48.02 | Corrodias | i finally earned a few marks in halaa |
| 08:48.27 | Corrodias | mostly by ambushing poor, hapless allies trying to repair the wyvern towers, but i logged my communication alt and thanked them afterward. |
| 08:49.18 | Corrodias | as for you, debomb, are you asking if there's a need for an addon? let me think... |
| 08:50.02 | Corrodias | a new fubar plugin to track how long it is until your pvp flag expires would be nice |
| 08:50.11 | Corrodias | honorfu is just having too many problems at the moment |
| 08:55.03 | debomb | rofl i am looking to help out on the norganna addons not make new ones. |
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| 08:55.54 | Corrodias | huh. well, i think norganna has a channel on this network. #norganna |
| 08:56.10 | Corrodias | if you're looking to help them out, you could probably get better, more specific communication there. |
| 08:59.17 | debomb | thanks i will try that and see what they tell me. |
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| 09:23.02 | debomb | still nothing |
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| 09:40.02 | Corrodias | what do you mean, "nothing"? |
| 09:40.08 | Corrodias | it looked related to me |
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| 10:57.41 | Kolth | I could watch/listen to this all day long |
| 10:57.42 | Kolth | http://youtube.com/watch?v=e7ZBOj7xr9k |
| 10:57.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | well god luck whit it |
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| 12:04.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Kolth, oh my! |
| 12:04.07 | Kolth | :) |
| 12:05.54 | Kirkburn|afk | I think his teeth have seriously affected his speech :/ |
| 12:06.16 | Kirkburn|afk | (and everyone else's eyesight =) |
| 12:06.21 | Kolth | haha |
| 12:13.18 | Kirkburn|afk | More of his wonderfulness - http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=rehdogg |
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| 13:34.43 | wobin | He probably has perfect diction when he takes out the capping =P |
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| 15:59.24 | sysrage | ugh. friggin cast bar is showing on the left side of my screen now. can't figure out what moved it |
| 16:12.49 | sysrage | what can i search for in my addon folder to find out what's messing with the cast bar? |
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| 16:26.44 | sysrage | god damn buffs aren't showing either |
| 16:26.45 | sysrage | grrr |
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| 16:49.38 | Orly|LB | A silly question maybe, but I could not find it in any sticky: |
| 16:50.01 | Orly|LB | Is there a macro command to list the target's class, like %t lists its name? |
| 16:50.36 | ag` | UnitClass("target") |
| 16:50.45 | ag` | :S |
| 16:52.20 | Xuerian | Orly|LB: Behold the magic units, 'target', 'mouseover', 'player', etc. |
| 16:54.48 | |FF|Im2good4u | does any1 know an addon that gives me coorinated whitout any other crap like map notes or dependencies ? |
| 16:55.57 | Orly|LB | Ok got it working thanks :) |
| 16:56.21 | sysrage | mapnotes rocks |
| 17:13.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you have fubar, |FF|Im2good4u |
| 17:13.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | no i dont have fubar >.< |
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| 17:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5309-diMapCoords.html |
| 17:31.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems to do a pretty nice job from the screens |
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| 17:37.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that's odd |
| 17:38.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i login and my minimap is stretched across my entire screen |
| 17:38.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't install that mod, just Fubar_LocationFu :o |
| 17:39.58 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: Jostle has been jostled out of correct functionality. ckknight will fix it when he gets on, hopefully. |
| 17:40.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh okay |
| 17:40.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was just trying to find something to replace the annoying bar on top of the minimap, since i have fubar, that seemed like the best choice :p |
| 17:40.58 | Xuerian | simpleMinimap does wonders :P |
| 17:42.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | link? :o |
| 17:42.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | not showing up in search |
| 17:42.27 | Xuerian | It's on files.wowace.com |
| 17:44.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but |
| 17:44.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, oops |
| 17:44.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry i disabled locationfu |
| 17:44.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the minimap is still like |
| 17:44.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | stretched |
| 17:44.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 17:45.13 | Xuerian | If you updated anything fubar from wowace, you probably got the latest jostle which got messed up last night. |
| 17:45.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
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| 18:22.51 | Corrodias | Mr_Rabies |
| 18:22.54 | Corrodias | screenshot! |
| 18:23.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i went back to my old UI style too |
| 18:23.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | that one was too cluttered :p |
| 18:23.32 | Corrodias | yeah, well, pics or it didn't happen |
| 18:24.15 | haste | We're going to candy mountain! |
| 18:24.20 | Cairenn|afk | ack |
| 18:25.06 | Tain | Big Rock Candy Mountain? |
| 18:26.08 | Corrodias | a Mountain of White Rock |
| 18:26.37 | Tain | Are you riding the white horse? |
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| 18:28.04 | Corrodias | if you want to ride, don't ride the white horse |
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| 18:29.09 | Corrodias | i had fun in halaa last night :D |
| 18:29.17 | Corrodias | i actually earned some marks of battle |
| 18:29.24 | Corrodias | battle tokens? |
| 18:29.30 | Corrodias | something like that |
| 18:29.48 | ag`_ | AnduinLothar: you here? |
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| 18:31.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got like 30 in halaa yesterday |
| 18:31.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i'm on a carebear server |
| 18:31.30 | Tain | Isn't that a Gwen Stefani song? Halaa back? |
| 18:31.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was like 6 of us versus like 10 horde or so |
| 18:31.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | I aint no halaa back girl |
| 18:31.50 | Corrodias | me too |
| 18:32.05 | Corrodias | although i only made 21, the allies usually outnumber us |
| 18:32.22 | Corrodias | at first, we attacked the city and the allies swarmed in once the guards were down and kept us from taking it |
| 18:32.38 | Corrodias | then poof, as soon as the guards started to respawn they all disappeared except like 4 of them |
| 18:32.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | our server is almost 3:1 |
| 18:33.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | alliance to horde |
| 18:33.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but there were more horde than alliance in halaa |
| 18:33.36 | Corrodias | the remaining four of us continued bombing until the guards were gone again, at which point some more horde players appeared and we took the city. then they disappeared again after getting their turnins and about 4 ally players whittled away at the guards while i earned some tokens ambushing them at the wyvern posts |
| 18:33.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | yet we held them off for a good hour before they got bored and stopped attacking |
| 18:33.42 | Corrodias | amazing |
| 18:34.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | blade's edge, netherstorm, and shadowmoon need pvp objectives |
| 18:35.18 | Corrodias | i think those areas are probably nuts enough without them |
| 18:51.38 | seebs | This isn't WoW UI related, but: Anyone here know much about processor cooling? |
| 18:57.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, i guess? |
| 18:57.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | what do you need to know about it? |
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| 19:09.40 | Tain | hah hah brilliant people in my own home state. http://members.arstechnica.com/x/rigeek/Photo_021707_001.jpg |
| 19:12.22 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:14.20 | cncfanatics | anyone knows why in the world the SetBindingClick function (or any of the setbinding functions) dont trigger UPDATE_BINDINGS ? |
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| 19:18.01 | Tuller | cncfanatics: because they aren't saved |
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| 19:18.17 | Tuller | UPDATE_BINDINGS is only called when you save them, I think |
| 19:18.37 | foxlit | "SetBinding*" functions are cheap bindings :P |
| 19:18.47 | cncfanatics | they are actualy saved |
| 19:18.55 | cncfanatics | I can see them in my Binding-cache.wtf file |
| 19:19.04 | cncfanatics | bind 1 CLICK FB2_BTN_07E4EA28:LeftButton is a result from SetBindingClick |
| 19:19.16 | foxlit | But they're not handled by the Key Bindings dialog itself. |
| 19:19.32 | cncfanatics | true, which sucks tbh :/ |
| 19:20.11 | foxlit | It's dandy. Hook UPDATE_BINDINGS, then SecureBinding* your secure commands over what the user selects from your Bindings.xml |
| 19:20.28 | cncfanatics | foxlit, I can't se a Bindings.xml file |
| 19:20.36 | cncfanatics | the frames I make bindings for are dynamicly generated |
| 19:20.38 | foxlit | u or e? |
| 19:20.47 | foxlit | u. :) |
| 19:20.53 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 19:21.26 | foxlit | Mm, yes, then you're pretty much stuck with generating your own bindings-handling UI. |
| 19:21.48 | cncfanatics | which can conflict easely with other addons using SetBindingClick :s |
| 19:22.54 | ckknight | Xuerian: Jostle problems have been fixed |
| 19:23.07 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies2: it wasn't my code, it was tlund's |
| 19:23.16 | Xuerian | ckknight: Excellent. I know it wasn't your code, but no one else would touch it. |
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| 19:23.43 | ckknight | well, the recent patch |
| 19:23.43 | ckknight | either way, I don't need bawl-slapping |
| 19:24.32 | Xuerian | To be fair, that wasn't my idea >.> |
| 19:25.38 | tlund | please download http://www.wowace.com/files/FuBar/FuBar-r28371.1.zip to solve your Jostle problems. report to me if that doesnt sole it please. |
| 19:26.42 | tlund | Mr_Rabies2: *hilight* |
| 19:27.53 | tlund | Mr_Rabies2: or actually, r28423 in a few minutes |
| 19:33.27 | bleetah | oO Robert Adler died :'( (inventor to TV remote control) |
| 19:38.19 | ckknight | today we must remember to look up to the great man and in times of crisis, ask ourselves "What would Robert Adler do?" |
| 19:39.20 | axxo | change the channel! |
| 19:40.42 | bleetah | 'press the mute button' |
| 19:42.48 | zenzelezz | when Bryon Boytano was in the alps fighting grizzly bears... |
| 19:42.54 | zenzelezz | *Bryan |
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| 19:54.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 19:54.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wasn't blaming anyone :p |
| 19:54.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | Take your time, I'm using your service for free with no promises of it working, :P |
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| 19:56.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like the r28423 is out already anyway :D |
| 20:03.18 | tlund | Mr_Rabies2: most people providing a service, regardless of if its free or not, take pride in their work :) |
| 20:04.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm saying don't take what i was saying as a complaint as much as an "oh no, also, my minimap is hilariously huge" :P |
| 20:04.40 | tlund | hahaha |
| 20:05.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and that too many users bitch at you addon guys for minor mistakes, when they've got no room to complain about it |
| 20:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just was trying to make sure my mentioning of the bug didn't come across as me whining about it when you guys make no claims of perfect code |
| 20:06.20 | Corrodias | you suck for making a bug |
| 20:06.26 | Corrodias | live with it! >:o |
| 20:06.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm really really good at finding bugs though |
| 20:06.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason |
| 20:06.59 | Corrodias | me too! i'm just really bad at reporting them before five new versions come out. |
| 20:07.22 | Xuerian | I think bugs might just find you, Mr_Rabies |
| 20:07.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably |
| 20:07.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm really unlucky :p |
| 20:07.33 | Corrodias | why is there another Mr_Rabies that never speaks? |
| 20:07.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | because he's my desktop computer |
| 20:07.51 | Corrodias | *why is there another Mr_Rabies, which never speaks? |
| 20:07.55 | Corrodias | ok |
| 20:07.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i play wow on it, he was my only computer for a while |
| 20:08.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i keep him on irc for the hell of it, mostly |
| 20:10.19 | Corrodias | monsoon season is a-comin' |
| 20:11.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | yourmomsoon season is a-comin |
| 20:14.29 | Corrodias | what the shit is this song |
| 20:14.38 | Corrodias | CAMEO '' Candy '' |
| 20:19.34 | JoshBorke | blah |
| 20:19.43 | JoshBorke | there's a bug where someone can 'swim' in the air |
| 20:30.59 | Corrodias | flight without a flight form |
| 20:32.08 | JoshBorke | yes, and without a mount |
| 20:32.18 | JoshBorke | mage frostbolted me from mid air |
| 20:32.35 | JoshBorke | and then swam after me |
| 20:32.44 | bleetah | grr @ profession cooldowns... is mooncloth practically useless, or what? I'd like to see something like cooldown reduction, lose 1 day cooldown for every 10 skill points over 300. .. or something, anything but this! :/ |
| 20:33.22 | JoshBorke | at least it's not BoP :-D |
| 20:33.38 | bleetah | heh |
| 20:34.29 | Corrodias | this guy just tagged a mob without even damaging it |
| 20:35.04 | JoshBorke | reflective shield tags also |
| 20:35.20 | Sstixrud | is there a way to rename a table in such a way where its children maintain their relationship? |
| 20:35.52 | Sstixrud | or an easy wa to make a copy of a table with a new name would work too :) |
| 20:35.52 | JoshBorke | the table's name is only a reference |
| 20:35.56 | Corrodias | it was a mage. is that reflective shield? |
| 20:36.07 | JoshBorke | no |
| 20:36.12 | Corrodias | that's not a term i'm familiar with |
| 20:36.38 | Sstixrud | Josh - ok... so no its not possible? |
| 20:37.54 | Kaso | Mage's Fire armor or whatever its called does damage on hits right? |
| 20:38.07 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: what do you mean? |
| 20:38.15 | Tem | Kaso, Molten Armor |
| 20:38.22 | JoshBorke | Sstixrud: by maintaning relationship? |
| 20:38.22 | Tem | and yes, it does 75 damage when the mage is hit |
| 20:38.37 | Kaso | Sstixrud its just a referance, you can do name={1,2,3} fred=name if you want to re-name it? |
| 20:38.56 | Kaso | then thats prob what Corrodias saw, the molten armor tagging |
| 20:39.19 | Sstixrud | on each UNIT_AURA event I need store/rename/move the previous list of active aura's then build the existing aura table then compare the two |
| 20:40.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | whats the name of the buff frame? :O |
| 20:40.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | self buffs |
| 20:41.09 | tlund | BuffFrame |
| 20:41.32 | Sstixrud | Kaso if I do fred=name but then do name=(3,2,1} is fred still = {1,2,3}? |
| 20:42.28 | Sstixrud | by your reference comment I would assume no, so that wont work for me :| |
| 20:43.24 | Kaso | fred and name would become the same object, i guess you want to do something like this: http://pastebin.ca/362439 |
| 20:44.03 | Kaso | pseudo-coded ofc |
| 20:45.07 | Sstixrud | hmm havent used Compare before |
| 20:45.16 | Kaso | it isnt a function |
| 20:45.39 | Sstixrud | oh just a place holder |
| 20:45.46 | Kaso | mmhm |
| 20:47.04 | Cide | name = { 1, 2, 3 }; fred = name; name = { 3, 2, 1 } -- not the same objects; fred is still { 1, 2, 3 } |
| 20:47.32 | Kaso | it is? |
| 20:47.39 | Sstixrud | oh really?? that makes life simpler |
| 20:47.41 | tlund | foo = bar is a copy in LUA, not a pointer asignment :) |
| 20:47.48 | Cide | no |
| 20:47.48 | tlund | www.lua.org |
| 20:47.50 | Cide | foo = bar is not a copy |
| 20:48.41 | Cide | you make it point to the same object (all values are passed by reference in lua) |
| 20:48.59 | Cide | so fred = name doesn't mean that fred always points to what name points to |
| 20:49.17 | Cide | hence, if you change what name points to, fred remains unchanged |
| 20:49.54 | Kaso | i see whats going on, strange, i could have sword ive been in a situation where the opposite behavour happened, i forget where however |
| 20:52.26 | Cide | tlund: if it was a copy, you couldn't do: a = { }; b = a; assert(a == b) |
| 20:52.34 | Sstixrud | hmm so I should be able to do if newauras then ; oldauras = newauras ; end ; newauras = {posion="true", curse="false"} ; compare ? |
| 20:52.51 | Cide | no idea what you mean |
| 20:52.54 | Sstixrud | heh |
| 20:53.07 | tlund | cide: ok |
| 20:53.18 | Cide | if you assign newauras to a new table, it will always be false when compared to oldauras |
| 20:53.51 | Sstixrud | the "if newauras" is just checking to see if it exists |
| 20:54.10 | Cide | a = { 1, 2, 3 }; b = { 1, 2, 3 }; -- a ~= b |
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| 20:55.07 | Xuerian | Look: local a = { 1, 2, 3 }; local b = a; b[4] = 4; a == b | local a = {1, 2, 3}; local b = a; local a = { 5, 6, 7 }; a ~= b |
| 20:56.36 | Kaso | i think he's planning to do some comparison of the table elements rather than just checking if the tables are equal |
| 20:57.35 | Xuerian | Right. |
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| 20:59.03 | Sstixrud | yes |
| 21:02.02 | Sstixrud | I need to check what auras were active during the previous event and compare it to the current event. The easiest way I can think to do that is to rename a table/variable from the last UNIT_AURA event prior to creating the new one, then compare new and old at the end of each UNIT_AURA event |
| 21:04.45 | Sstixrud | but Kaso is right I am not just checking to see if the two tables match, I would be checking elements within the two tables to see what changed exactly |
| 21:05.28 | Kaso | The code you suggested earlier should work, have you tried? |
| 21:06.24 | Sstixrud | not yet, beginning now :) |
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| 21:20.39 | Sstixrud | Kaso yeah it seems like it will do what I want |
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| 21:51.53 | PProvost | WowAceUpdater 1.7-final is now available for download. Only minor changes since 1.7-beta4, but you should upgrade your client as soon as possible. Please file bugs and suggestions at http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater. Thanks! |
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| 21:55.15 | bleetah | oes and files his bugreport |
| 21:55.32 | bleetah | */me goes ... |
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| 22:05.25 | Sstixrud | What is more cpu intensive a bunch of global variables or table lookups? :) |
| 22:07.40 | Tem | global variables are simply entries in the global table |
| 22:07.56 | Tem | so if your table is local, that will be faster than a global variable |
| 22:09.41 | Sstixrud | What is a local table? A table declared as local within a function? |
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| 22:11.08 | Sstixrud | I am assuming a table that must still exist the NEXT time the function is ran is global |
| 22:11.27 | Kaso | t={} -- global local t={} -- local |
| 22:12.06 | Sstixrud | k, then in my case it has to be a global table or a global variable |
| 22:13.05 | Sstixrud | which is faster global variable or global table? =) |
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| 22:19.06 | Kaso | Sstixrud a table is just another variable |
| 22:19.46 | Sstixrud | ok |
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| 22:25.30 | Inficant | hello everyone |
| 22:26.42 | Inficant | does anyone know how to determine if a character is on an EU server or a US server? name is not enough, since some names overlap |
| 22:26.54 | Legorol | Inficant: you can't |
| 22:27.05 | Legorol | not 100% reliably anyway |
| 22:27.14 | Legorol | you could try and compare the server time with the local time |
| 22:27.21 | Legorol | but even that wouldn't be conclusive |
| 22:27.47 | Tem | Inficant, just ask |
| 22:28.01 | Legorol | In practice however, what people tend to do is if the locale is US, they assume you are on a US server, and if the locale is GB, DE or FR, assume you are on an EU server |
| 22:28.55 | Legorol | it doesn't cover all cases but works for the majority of them |
| 22:29.05 | Inficant | legorol, that is my current method, and I was hoping for something better,oh well |
| 22:29.27 | Kaso | The only other way is to ask the user, i think census does that |
| 22:29.29 | Legorol | if you know you can trust the local time of the computer, |
| 22:29.41 | Legorol | then you can compare the server time to the local time i think |
| 22:30.10 | Legorol | i am not sure on this one, but it's worth looking at. some API got added recently to query time etc., maybe it includes the timezone too |
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| 22:30.29 | Inficant | i think I might just ask the user, the first time the mods loads, if the answer isn't already in the saved variables |
| 22:31.17 | bleetah | you could also throw in crosscheck of a realmname table. sounds to me like best way is to do a multitude of checks, then prompt the user 'looks like you're an EU|US realm, is this correct. |
| 22:34.57 | Inficant | can the same client be used on both EU and US servers? they can't correct? |
| 22:35.29 | Kaso | the client locale doesnt limit the servers |
| 22:35.48 | Kaso | we have americans in our guild who use US client i believe |
| 22:36.34 | Kaso | you just need to switch the realmlist server in the config.wtf |
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| 22:39.58 | Thorgard | Kaso, that doesn't work anymore. |
| 22:40.03 | Thorgard | It used to work. |
| 22:40.09 | Kaso | oh |
| 22:40.22 | Kaso | how'd they do it nowadays then? |
| 22:40.34 | Thorgard | But the EU and US clients grew apart when the EU client added bunch of languages/audio for the German/Spanish/French. |
| 22:40.49 | Thorgard | I guess download and use the right client.. as in two installations or whatever. |
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| 22:58.23 | Legorol | Thorgard: you can still use the EU client to connect to US realms and vice versa |
| 22:58.47 | Thorgard | Legorol, it wasn't working last time I tried. |
| 22:59.33 | haste | I play with a US client on EU, so I don't think it's a problem |
| 22:59.54 | Legorol | Thorgard: i checked 2 minutes ago, it worked |
| 23:00.09 | Legorol | i tried EU client on US |
| 23:00.16 | Thorgard | Just by editing the realmlist? |
| 23:00.19 | Legorol | yes |
| 23:00.44 | Thorgard | Cool. |
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| 23:46.23 | Sstixrud | is there any way to debug how much time my addon spends running a functions / events? |
| 23:46.39 | Sstixrud | game and/or cpu time that is |
| 23:47.12 | cladhaire | short answer, yes. |
| 23:47.22 | cladhaire | long answer.. its quite difficult but traceevent might be a good placet o start |
| 23:47.27 | cladhaire | i'm not sure what utils exist atm in 2.0 |
| 23:47.50 | Sstixrud | ok, thanks :) |
| 23:48.25 | Sstixrud | need to figure out how much optimization I need to do :) |
| 23:49.05 | cladhaire | optimization is the devil |
| 23:49.07 | cladhaire | just dont write shitty code.k |
| 23:49.16 | cladhaire | whats the problem you're encountering. |
| 23:49.20 | Sstixrud | well I am a newb... I am doing the best I can :P |
| 23:49.29 | cladhaire | okay.. do you have any specific questions |
| 23:49.51 | cladhaire | cause seriously, premature optimization is bad.. using best practices and understanding what and why you're doing things tends to be a better path |
| 23:49.56 | cladhaire | imho of course |
| 23:50.08 | seebs | Hey, anyone here want a couple free computer parts? |
| 23:50.31 | Sstixrud | well... I have some code that runs on UNIT_AURA involving table creation / lookups / compare... I am worried it might be a bit much when tracking for 90+ units :) |
| 23:50.36 | Cide | just type in your email here, get 100 friends to do the same thing and sign this paper.. it's free, trust me! |
| 23:50.40 | seebs | Heh. |
| 23:50.45 | seebs | No, I upgraded a computer. |
| 23:50.52 | cladhaire | Sstixrud: table creatino on UNIT_AURA would be a patently bad idea :P |
| 23:50.56 | cladhaire | what are you doing in this specific case? |
| 23:50.56 | seebs | I have a spare heatsink and CPU now, and could probably also part with some memory or a video card. |
| 23:51.04 | cladhaire | perhaps we can come up with a better way to accomplish the same task |
| 23:51.09 | seebs | I'm half tempted to just buy a motherboard and case and call it "a computer". |
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| 23:51.32 | seebs | Actually, I probably should, I'm just too lazy. |
| 23:51.42 | Sstixrud | cladhaire I need compare what auras were active on each Unit last cycle vs current :| |
| 23:51.54 | cladhaire | to determine what is lost and/or gained? |
| 23:51.59 | Sstixrud | yes |
| 23:52.06 | cladhaire | for what purpose? |
| 23:52.39 | Sstixrud | changing the visual status of the buttons assoicated with that unit |
| 23:53.00 | Cide | CT_BuffMod does it in a quite nice way (imo of course ;), but it uses the GetPlayer... functions so I can't say for sure if it would work for you |
| 23:53.19 | Sstixrud | GetPlayer is limited to self no? |
| 23:53.24 | cladhaire | correct |
| 23:53.32 | Cide | there are similar functions for other units |
| 23:53.33 | Sstixrud | ya wont work, this is party/raid related |
| 23:53.35 | cladhaire | Sstixrud: Well the first step would be to reuse tables instead of making new ones. |
| 23:53.48 | Cide | UnitBuff substitutes 2-4 GetPlayer.. functions |
| 23:56.08 | Sstixrud | clad - well heres the problem i ran into.. Is tarted doing that. But I found the easiest way to compare past and present was to: UBOLDAURAS[arg1] = UBAURAS[arg1] ; UBAURAS[arg1] = {} |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | that makes no sense to me, I'm afraid |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | you don't need to make a new table to do the comparison |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | you only need one table, period |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | the current state |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | and on UNIT_AURA |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | determine what changes |
| 23:56.09 | cladhaire | and fire your handlers appropriately |
| 23:56.19 | Sstixrud | That runs during every UNIT_AURA event, first thing it does is copies what the table was last cycle to a new name and then recpopulates the table with current auras then compares the two at the end |
| 23:56.36 | cladhaire | yeah that's not a good way to do this. |
| 23:56.42 | Cide | I did a comparison in CTRA.. but I think it's actually faster to just recompute all buffs |
| 23:56.54 | Cide | unless you need to know when you gain/lose a specific buff |
| 23:57.00 | Sstixrud | I do |
| 23:57.04 | Cide | ack |
| 23:57.24 | Cide | it's a bit easier now though |
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| 23:57.50 | Sstixrud | Oh? |
| 23:58.12 | Cide | compared to before.. UnitBuff returns buff name |
| 23:58.18 | cladhaire | you're welcome btw =) |
| 23:58.38 | Sstixrud | clad - I am not sure how your method would work, could you explain in a bit more detail? |
| 23:58.43 | cladhaire | wait |
| 23:58.44 | cladhaire | what? |
| 23:58.48 | cladhaire | are you kidding me? |
| 23:58.48 | cladhaire | =( |
| 23:58.53 | Sstixrud | :( |
| 23:58.56 | cladhaire | you cannot bid on your own accounts auctions? |
| 23:58.56 | cladhaire | =( |
| 23:58.57 | cladhaire | *cry* |
| 23:59.17 | Cide | that's like.. a very good restriction :P |
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| 23:59.30 | cladhaire | yeah i know |
| 23:59.32 | cladhaire | but neutral ah |
| 23:59.34 | Sstixrud | hmmm how would I reuse the existing table? |
| 23:59.37 | cladhaire | i want to get stuff to my horde alt. |
| 23:59.59 | cladhaire | Sstixrud: For starters, just iterate all buffs |
