| 00:01.04 | Tain | Two peanuts were walking through the park. |
| 00:01.16 | Tain | One of them was assaulted. |
| 00:01.36 | raevanmorlock | You mean "a salted"? ^_^ |
| 00:01.42 | Corrodias | he means laugh. |
| 00:01.53 | raevanmorlock | That kind of joke doesn't work too well int ext |
| 00:01.54 | raevanmorlock | in text* |
| 00:02.08 | Guillotine | What did the carbon say to the rain cloud? |
| 00:02.08 | Tain | You have to think outside the box. |
| 00:02.22 | Tain | Dunno! |
| 00:02.24 | Guillotine | "You rainy! Yum!" |
| 00:02.28 | Tain | hahaha |
| 00:02.34 | cogwheel|work | My wife and I were walking through Disneyland and two little girs went running by us. I heard a man behind us yell, "Star! Sky! Get back over here!" I turned to my wife and said, "If they have a son, they should name him Hutch..." |
| 00:02.48 | cogwheel|work | Soon after, I had a bruise on my right shoulder |
| 00:02.55 | Tain | Two guys walk into a bar. The third guy ducked. |
| 00:03.08 | cogwheel|work | s/girs/girls/ |
| 00:03.45 | bleetah | A baby seal waddles into a club. |
| 00:03.47 | bleetah | boom boom |
| 00:03.56 | Tain | A guy goes to the doctor's. "Doc, I have a strawberry stuck up my ass." |
| 00:03.58 | raevanmorlock | Nice one, cogwheel|work ... took me a minute |
| 00:04.02 | Tain | The doc says, "Oh, I have some cream for that." |
| 00:04.13 | cogwheel|work | (true story, too :P ) |
| 00:04.29 | bleetah | sue for spousal abuse! |
| 00:04.31 | bleetah | j/k |
| 00:04.57 | raevanmorlock | haha |
| 00:05.27 | raevanmorlock | So nobody's going to give me adive in regards to shower/school/addon-making, huh? I do so hate making decisions. |
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| 00:05.48 | Shadowed | Well youu see |
| 00:05.50 | Shadowed | first you turn the water on |
| 00:06.02 | Tain | Skip school, never skip showers. |
| 00:06.08 | Guillotine | Skip the first two in favor of the last |
| 00:06.14 | raevanmorlock | Let it fill up to half-way and dunk my head in it? |
| 00:07.05 | Guillotine | water proof your computer and get on an online course. Then you can do all 3 at once! |
| 00:07.23 | raevanmorlock | I am very tempted to skip class today.. probably shower after I'm done the addon.... but I just quit work last Friday so that I'd have more time for school so skipping it already would vastly weaken my position. Of course, there's a 90% chance that I will anyhow... so... oh... you guys are very bad influences and I'm rambling. |
| 00:08.17 | axxo | someone ban raevanmorlock so he can go to school |
| 00:08.55 | Tain | Uh yeah school is like important and junk |
| 00:09.10 | JoshBorke | drugs are bad, mmk? |
| 00:09.18 | raevanmorlock | Yes, drugs are bad |
| 00:09.50 | raevanmorlock | And banning me wouldn't get me to class.. it'd just get me out of here and focusing more on the addon ^_^ |
| 00:10.26 | AnduinLothar | omg this quest is awesome |
| 00:10.32 | raevanmorlock | Just sum it up to 2 words or less, cogwheel|work |
| 00:10.35 | AnduinLothar | you wear a tabbard that turns you into a blood elf |
| 00:10.50 | JoshBorke | nice |
| 00:10.57 | JoshBorke | you ding 70 AL? |
| 00:11.09 | AnduinLothar | not yet. 1 bubble from 69 |
| 00:11.12 | JoshBorke | nice |
| 00:11.15 | raevanmorlock | Blood Elfs are evil.. they maimed my mommy! |
| 00:11.16 | JoshBorke | i'm 4% from 69 |
| 00:11.17 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: I'd rather not... wouldn't be appropriate XD |
| 00:11.33 | raevanmorlock | haha |
| 00:13.25 | bleetah | I'll paraphrase for you, cogwheel|work |
| 00:13.28 | bleetah | 'it's crap' |
| 00:13.42 | raevanmorlock | Is anyone familar with the SellValue addon? I'm trying to figure out how it finds the price of an item.... he's setting a variable to 0, passing it to a function, and then diving it by the number of items in teh stack to get the price of just one. But 0 divided by something would always be 0... |
| 00:14.21 | raevanmorlock | oh wait.. maybe he's not. How come I always find answers after I ask questions.. d'oh |
| 00:17.43 | JoshBorke | that's what most people do |
| 00:18.27 | kergoth | because the act of verbalizing the question usually makes it clearer in your mind |
| 00:18.50 | cogwheel|work | The process of asking the question causes your brain to operate in a mode that is different than when you're just thinking about it. |
| 00:18.58 | raevanmorlock | Maybe I didn't find it... he calls SetBagItem in-between there, but that doesn't seem like it should modify his variable any |
| 00:20.32 | raevanmorlock | Yup I'm stumped |
| 00:20.51 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: sounds like he's doing tooltip scanning. The SetBagItem function handles all of that outside the realm of lua. |
| 00:21.13 | cogwheel|work | (but without seeing the code, I can't say for certain) |
| 00:21.19 | Karrion | raevanmorlock: SetBagItem sets the item into a tooltip, there's probably code elsewhere that scans the tooptip |
| 00:21.58 | raevanmorlock | I was thinking that... he made his own tooltip to perform the method on, but the tooltip doesn't seem to have any code associated with it |
| 00:22.15 | cogwheel|work | doesn't need any... it's built into the game |
| 00:22.31 | raevanmorlock | unless that's what that hook was for |
| 00:23.31 | raevanmorlock | Yeah.. I found it. I don't quite understand it, but I found it. |
| 00:23.57 | cogwheel|work | that's usually how it goes with other people's code :) |
| 00:24.20 | cogwheel|work | (and even your own after a year or so) |
| 00:24.22 | raevanmorlock | ha.. yeah |
| 00:24.40 | raevanmorlock | I'm fricken starving, but anything worth eating takes too long to make |
| 00:24.41 | Karrion | a year? A couple of hours, I find... ;-p |
| 00:25.35 | raevanmorlock | That's what commenting is for, Karrion |
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| 00:34.20 | Nom- | lol, quality: http://awful.smashtech.net/files/6b/6bfd74805ec061fa534f506fef282b87addc5d69.gif |
| 00:35.14 | raevan|cooking | Last time I viewed a pic that was linked on here, it contained an image I not care to remember |
| 00:36.07 | Nom- | Well, it's quite worksafe, unless you find images of President Bush offensive :) |
| 00:37.18 | raevan|cooking | I find President Bush offensive |
| 00:38.23 | Nom- | Well, then don't look. :) |
| 00:38.54 | raevan|cooking | ha |
| 00:39.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love how easy it is to find waffleimage mirrors because all the filenames are giant and hexadecimal |
| 00:41.49 | raevan|cooking | I hate being human... I answer my own questions only after publicly asking them and stop being hungry only after going through the effort of actually cooking something |
| 00:42.10 | kergoth | thatll teach you to cook, you shouldve ordered pizza |
| 00:42.34 | JoshBorke | ding 69 =D |
| 00:42.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i cooked pizza :O |
| 00:43.16 | Tain | I got sprung on me about 2 hours ago that I'm cooking for 8-10 people tomorrow night. |
| 00:43.17 | raevanmorlock | Define "cooked" |
| 00:43.26 | Tain | I'm trying to figure out what the hell I'm cooking. |
| 00:43.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got a take & bake pizza and baked it :p |
| 00:44.19 | Tain | That's all? |
| 00:44.19 | raevanmorlock | haha |
| 00:44.33 | raevanmorlock | Yeah that's about what I do as far as cooking goes |
| 00:44.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh it was in the fridge and they go bad fast |
| 00:45.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | theyre fresh :p |
| 00:45.38 | Tain | You know you can make those even better by adding just a little bit. Fresh ground pepper and salt, a little garlic powder or minced garlic, some dried basil... |
| 00:45.44 | raevanmorlock | Yeah? I've never heard of 'em.... Digiornio is the best non-delivery-type pizza I've ever had |
| 00:45.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | tain |
| 00:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | or just krazy salt :p |
| 00:46.07 | raevanmorlock | But Ellio's is also really good in a different sort of way |
| 00:46.08 | kergoth | man, i love those take n bake pizzas |
| 00:46.12 | Tain | I buy frozen Elios type pizza, cheap ass stuff, a bit of extra on top and they're great. |
| 00:46.30 | kergoth | theres a papa murphys that sells those here like a block from my house.. too close, too tempting |
| 00:46.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | these aren't frozen, they're made fresh and refrigerated |
| 00:46.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | mmm |
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| 00:47.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.krazysalt.com/ this is the stuff of the gods |
| 00:47.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | for pretty much anything |
| 00:47.31 | Tain | heh it's good |
| 00:47.47 | Tain | I do my own mixture of spices though. But that's better than not doing anything else by far. |
| 00:48.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | salt, onion, garlic, and other various herbs (including basil, black pepper, etc) |
| 00:49.00 | raevanmorlock | They sell... salt? |
| 00:49.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 00:49.16 | Tain | I have 3 different types of salt in my cupboard right now. |
| 00:49.31 | raevanmorlock | Seems like an awfully limited product line |
| 00:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got iodized salt, sea salt, seasoning salt, celery salt, krazy salt, and creole salt :p |
| 00:50.19 | raevanmorlock | I've got... salt |
| 00:50.26 | raevanmorlock | and pepper |
| 00:50.52 | Tain | Oh well I mean just salt. Iodized salt, kosher salt, and rock salt. Nothing else added, just NaCl. |
| 00:50.59 | raevanmorlock | and cinnamon and sugar |
| 00:51.17 | Tain | Well iodized is added I suppose. Just gets ignored. |
| 00:51.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | krazy salt generally replaces salt in most things :p |
| 00:51.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | for me |
| 00:52.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of adding salt i add krazy salt, i love it |
| 00:52.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | best seasoning ever |
| 00:52.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i eat a lot of italianish food so yeah :p |
| 00:52.43 | raevanmorlock | If I define a var as local within my .lua file... is it then not accessible to my functions within the same file? |
| 00:54.28 | JoshBorke | it is available to anything defined after it |
| 00:57.34 | Tain | It just depends on exactly where you define it. If you define it inside a function it is only available inside that function, for example. |
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| 00:58.52 | raevanmorlock | That much makes sense, Tain ... My thought was that if I defined it in the file outside of any function, it'd be local to my addon and not visible to any others... but I tried using it in a function, and it didn't work... unless it was something else I had screwed up |
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| 01:00.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha nice http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74319664&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 01:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know what's more hilarious, the OP or the people reading it wrong |
| 01:04.32 | raevanmorlock | You mean the people thinking it's a serious rant? |
| 01:07.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 01:07.48 | raevanmorlock | Okay.. I think I figured it out. I have to declare my local vars at teh top of the file before any functions so that the functions can still access them... but then I have to assign them at the bottom after all the functions so that they can use the functions |
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| 01:48.22 | bleetah | " Steve Jobs calls on record studios to remove playback restrictions." ... Bleetah calls on Steve Jobs to open source OSX |
| 01:49.32 | Karrion | bleetah: that's not entirely a fair comparison |
| 01:50.07 | Karrion | better would be to remove copy protection from osx |
| 01:50.53 | bleetah | hmm? he wants to strip artists of their rights to charge as the wish... as such, I feel Apple shouldn't be free to charge as they wish, either. |
| 01:50.53 | bleetah | Karrion: yes, that'd be a good start ;) |
| 01:51.09 | Karrion | DRM does nothing to allow artists to charge as they wish |
| 01:51.52 | Karrion | it just takes away consumer's right to use what they purchase on the playback hardware/software of their choice |
| 01:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | ouuuuuch |
| 01:52.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | pyroblasted for 4500 while the mage was running :[ |
| 01:52.23 | bleetah | Karrion: that's coz most DRM models suck bigtime.. and that 'right' given to the customer is only granted by the artist |
| 01:52.48 | bleetah | admittedly, most of this problem is caused by the braindead behemothically sized fat walletted disgusting mega-corps |
| 01:53.13 | Karrion | depending on juristiction, the US fair use model gives consumers that right |
| 01:53.33 | Karrion | but then the DMCA takes it away again as soon as any kind of DRM is present |
| 01:54.01 | Karrion | and yes, the problem is the recording industry, not the artists |
| 01:54.56 | bleetah | if they'd got onboard with the tech industry when the first fairlight CMI hit the shelves (as it was clearly obvious then media was about to go totally different), they might've saved themselves a bucket of trouble and headaches |
| 01:55.29 | bleetah | the 20 or so years of denial painted themselves into a corner, and thus we end up with screwy DRM and crap |
| 01:56.36 | raevanmorlock | Anyone have any experience with grabbing item prices while at merchants? |
| 01:56.36 | Karrion | yeah, basically the technology has obsoleted their distribution models |
| 01:57.44 | bleetah | Karrion: yup, they were to busy pushing product to notice that their death sounds were actually contained on that very same product.. how it didn't occur to them that sampling in the early 80's would lead to this situation is wayyy beyond me. |
| 01:58.18 | Tain | raevanmorlock: not specifically but there are a lot of addons that do it, so there are a lot of places to look for examples. |
| 01:59.25 | raevanmorlock | Tain: Yeah.. most of them are pretty bloated though. I've been using SellValue as a guide thus far since it's relatively simple, but something's not working |
| 01:59.57 | bleetah | raevanmorlock: I'd take a look at autoprofit, it's pretty tiny and has something inside it (I haven't looked at exactly what) that records vendor prices which it's never seen before |
| 02:00.32 | Tain | HOUSE! |
| 02:02.18 | raevanmorlock | Thanks I'll check that out, bleetah |
| 02:02.25 | raevanmorlock | What time is House on? |
| 02:02.49 | raevanmorlock | oh there it is! .. Another hour from now here |
| 02:02.59 | raevanmorlock | I gotta remember to watch that |
| 02:03.08 | Tain | I love the opening theme. |
| 02:03.41 | raevanmorlock | I don't recall it.. just started watching last week |
| 02:05.34 | Shadowed | Anyone here a Warrior with Devastate and DT installed? |
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| 02:12.12 | raevanmorlock | Tia Carrere is so hot |
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| 02:13.16 | tyroney | Interesting topic tonight. |
| 02:13.48 | tyroney | So, anyone tried the new secure hook with a meta table? |
| 02:13.59 | tyroney | or am I talking crazy? |
| 02:14.06 | raevanmorlock | What's the new "secure hook"? |
| 02:14.33 | kaso | It hooks a fuction without tainting it |
| 02:14.54 | JoshBorke | how would that work? |
| 02:15.00 | JoshBorke | hooking a meta-table? |
| 02:15.02 | raevanmorlock | Hooking is new to me |
| 02:15.20 | kaso | oh, you cant hook a metatable with securehook i dont believe |
| 02:15.32 | kaso | off the top of my head at least it doesnt sound as if it'd work |
| 02:15.37 | tyroney | I used to hook the main meta table (when there was one big one) to catch the setvalue() of all the health bars. |
| 02:16.14 | JoshBorke | taints like no tomorrow now :_P |
| 02:16.49 | kaso | actually |
| 02:16.51 | tyroney | I might just fix it to hook the right table, in case it still works somehow. I kind of shelved it when all the changes were in the pipe. |
| 02:17.00 | kaso | you might be able to do what you want |
| 02:17.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | [5. Guildrecruitment] [Happymonkey]: who wont to join the new gomeing guild |
| 02:17.14 | tyroney | What's the pain in trying? Well, besides the usual pain. |
| 02:19.13 | kaso | try like http://pastey.net/6124 that |
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| 02:21.10 | tyroney | that's something like what I was thinking initially. |
| 02:21.33 | kaso | ofc you'd need to put a valid reference to a statusbar in getmetatable() |
| 02:21.41 | kaso | but its wortha try |
| 02:21.42 | tyroney | yup yup |
| 02:22.08 | tyroney | It was fun learning about the meta table and taking a fancy hookamajig from iriel and getting it to work. |
| 02:22.12 | tyroney | Back in the day. |
| 02:22.25 | kaso | mm, the old metatable hook was just magic in my eyes |
| 02:22.36 | kaso | i could use it, but hell if i understood it |
| 02:22.56 | tyroney | lua's pretty nifty. EVERYTHING is a table. |
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| 02:23.42 | tyroney | That's about as hard as I think about it though. To learn too much more I'd have to do something crazy like start going through the original C source... |
| 02:23.57 | Shadowed | kaso, couldn't we technically read the minimap icons for herbs/veins and such using the same trick for name plates? |
| 02:24.45 | kaso | Im pretty sure i checked that out one time, its draw from C or something there wasnt any lua objects |
| 02:24.55 | kaso | at least off the top of my head, you'd have to check that |
| 02:25.07 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 02:25.29 | Shadowed | first i need to get a dot to appear to test! |
| 02:25.36 | tyroney | Yeah, they're pretty obfuscated. I think they show up as a single frame/layer thingy. Unnamed, and stuff. |
| 02:25.54 | Shadowed | naming doesn't matter |
| 02:26.28 | tyroney | Right, but there are all these layers there, and you have to find the right one. And when you do, I don't think the dots are separate/enumeratable. |
| 02:26.56 | tyroney | And I wouldn't be suprized if the layers show up in different numbers/orders depending on the weather. |
| 02:27.06 | Shadowed | probably |
| 02:27.27 | Shadowed | i'm assuming they did it in a way so we can't modify or check it, was wondering out of curiosity |
| 02:28.19 | tyroney | Did you ever see that code that actually tossed the minimap under the cursor for a split second to scan for popups? That one sounded pretty crazy to me. |
| 02:28.44 | Shadowed | I never saw the code from it, but i'm pretty sure someone from this channel did it |
| 02:29.13 | tyroney | That's where I heard about it. |
| 02:29.31 | Shadowed | it was on wowi is all i remember |
| 02:29.48 | kaso | i saw it on wowi too actually, thats pretty good idae |
| 02:31.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | Candy. Tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. |
| 02:31.34 | tyroney | I think it stopped working well for some reason. Like around 1.7 |
| 02:31.54 | Shadowed | Can't think of any reason why |
| 02:32.46 | Shadowed | aha! |
| 02:32.52 | Shadowed | Tain did it http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4361 |
| 02:33.07 | Tain | Oh that old thing |
| 02:33.13 | Shadowed | lol |
| 02:33.31 | Shadowed | did Blizzard break it, or did you get bored of it? |
| 02:34.01 | Tain | I never felt like really polishing it. It was mostly a proof of concept. |
| 02:34.07 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 02:34.28 | Tain | It should still be possible. Actually probably even better. |
| 02:35.01 | Tain | Should be able to create a new minimap in Lua. Or at least enough of a minimap to do what it needs to do. |
| 02:35.36 | tyroney | wait, having two doesn't cause pan-dimensional anomalies? |
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| 02:36.07 | Tain | Well it used to. heh |
| 02:36.36 | tyroney | sorta like dividing by zero. Or hiding the WorldFrame. (which is kinda fun for kicks) |
| 02:39.16 | tyroney | yeargh |
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| 02:45.02 | WobWork | So. |
| 02:45.06 | WobWork | Americans. |
| 02:45.17 | WobWork | Do you call it a fridge, or is there another term? |
| 02:45.36 | sysrage | fridge |
| 02:45.37 | Tain | fridge, refrigerator, ice box |
| 02:45.48 | sysrage | only noobs call it an ice box |
| 02:46.24 | WobWork | kk =) |
| 02:46.27 | WobWork | ta |
| 02:47.54 | bleetah | really old people would prolly call it an ice box, too |
| 02:48.18 | bleetah | for that is what it was before .. well... refrigerators were invented hehe |
| 02:48.29 | bleetah | there's prolyl some dialects about that still use the term |
| 02:51.29 | JoshBorke | how much spirit is good for a priest? |
| 02:51.34 | kaso | good |
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| 02:52.34 | WobWork | more than you currently have =) |
| 02:52.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Ding ding ding :D |
| 02:52.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Flying mount here I come! |
| 02:52.56 | WobWork | grats kirk =) |
| 02:53.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Thanks :P |
| 02:53.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Level 70 only appeared to take me about 6 hours |
| 02:53.17 | WobWork | I'm struggling towards an epic mount, let alone a flying one =P |
| 02:53.48 | Kirkburn|afk | I'd give you some cash but ... |
| 02:53.55 | WobWork | ... flying mount =) |
| 02:54.02 | WobWork | perfectly valid reason =) |
| 02:54.05 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 02:54.11 | Karrion | flying mount = awesome, no more dying by missing the shattrath elevators by 3 milliseconds |
| 02:54.23 | WobWork | >< |
| 02:54.29 | WobWork | They should put a warning sign on that |
| 02:54.42 | WobWork | It's a OHS lawsuit just waiting to happen |
| 02:54.54 | bleetah | yeah, you'd think the city's taxes would've paid for some safety nets or something |
| 02:55.01 | Karrion | just wish there was more than one decent looking one for the horde :-( why can't we have a bat mount for forsaken |
| 02:55.06 | Kirkburn|afk | I've hit 70, and I haven't done /any/ Shadowmoon Valey quests, or half the netherstorm ones |
| 02:55.11 | bleetah | or maybe they're working on the theory 'if you're sooo stupid you fall off the lift, we don't want you in our city anyway' |
| 02:55.23 | WobWork | Kirkburn|afk: That means CA$H |
| 02:55.32 | Thunder_Child | i like stupidity....gives me what to laugh at |
| 02:56.01 | Nom- | I'm too skilled at excel for my own good :/ |
| 02:56.09 | Karrion | Kirkburn|afk: I'd done some but not most of them, but then I skipped blades edge, the pointy bits hurt my eyes >.< |
| 02:56.51 | raevanmorlock | f'in A |
| 02:57.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Hell yeah, I need it |
| 02:57.18 | Kirkburn|afk | I need 4k more gold for my epic |
| 02:57.47 | Nom- | 8| |
| 02:57.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Karrion, I love Blade's Edge ... when the paths go the way you want them to go, and you don't get ressurected on the other side of the map |
| 02:58.27 | raevanmorlock | Who's the lead singer of Aerosmith? |
| 02:59.09 | bleetah | steve tyler |
| 02:59.14 | bleetah | liv tyler's old man ;) |
| 02:59.30 | bleetah | actually, i think his real name is something like steven telarico |
| 02:59.49 | Tain | Daddy of Liv "unf unf" Tyler |
| 02:59.53 | raevanmorlock | Oooh yeah |
| 03:00.00 | bleetah | unf unf++ |
| 03:01.10 | bleetah | her mum originally said todd rundgren was her dad, to get away from tyler's drug additions.. hehe |
| 03:02.25 | Shadowed | Kirkburn|afk I was just talking about how I hated BEM |
| 03:02.43 | raevanmorlock | Kay... so not only is my new code not working, but neither is the old stuff that worked earlier today |
| 03:05.07 | WobWork | A+++. Would unf again? |
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| 03:07.14 | Guillotine | I think I may have too many addons. Up to a 3.5 min loadtime |
| 03:07.42 | raevanmorlock | nah, you just have a computer that's too slow |
| 03:07.47 | Shadowed | ...how many do you have Guillotine |
| 03:07.58 | Guillotine | hold on, counting |
| 03:08.13 | Shadowed | select them all, right click, props |
| 03:09.12 | bleetah | ls |wc -l |
| 03:09.16 | Guillotine | nah, that includes sub-folders |
| 03:09.26 | Shadowed | it does? |
| 03:09.45 | Guillotine | I have 123 addons |
| 03:10.06 | Shadowed | crazy |
| 03:10.58 | Nom- | An epic quest line will be going into an upcoming patch which will grant Druids an additional flying form with increased stats. The epic flying form will move at the epic rate of 280%, but basically fall under the same conditions as the previous flight form (i.e. can't run on the ground) |
| 03:11.07 | Nom- | haxx |
| 03:11.07 | raevanmorlock | The properties window includes sub-folders.. but it gives you a count of just the folders in the window on the left-hand pane |
| 03:11.12 | Shadowed | Nom- where is this? |
| 03:11.27 | Nom- | However, the first prerequisite of the quest will require the epic flying mount riding skill, so it would not be a loss to Druids if they wish to purchase their epic flying mount skill now or in the near future. Obviously, one could then diversify their epic mounts beyond the Druid's casted epic form if they choose. |
| 03:11.36 | Nom- | It's been copied and pasted from the druid forums |
| 03:11.40 | Nom- | Posted by Tseric apparently |
| 03:11.41 | Shadowed | got a link? |
| 03:11.44 | Guillotine | on both US and EU druid forums |
| 03:12.07 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74727492&sid=1 |
| 03:12.11 | Guillotine | I don't think I'll be doing the quest personally. Its basically more work for epic flying mount, but slower (riding crop doesn't work) |
| 03:12.34 | Nom- | pfft |
| 03:12.43 | Nom- | I'd do it if I was a druid |
| 03:13.00 | Nom- | I'm quite happy with my unique (pally unique) epic mount |
| 03:13.05 | Nom- | I'll be getting it when I hit 60 :) |
| 03:13.16 | Nom- | BE Pally mount is sexah |
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| 03:24.18 | Guillotine | hmm. I suppose I should start eliminating some mods |
| 03:24.24 | Guillotine | I guess I don't need 3 inventory mods |
| 03:24.33 | Thunder_Child | ofc you do |
| 03:24.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:24.48 | kaso | Guillotine surely though the fact that its instant cast makes up for the lack of riding crop |
| 03:25.32 | Guillotine | Kaso: how often is instant cast going to be helpful? Its not useable in combat anyway. And if the flight is longer than 8 seconds (had the math somewhere...) then it is better to take the time to mount |
| 03:25.51 | Shadowed | P |
| 03:25.53 | Shadowed | v |
| 03:25.54 | Shadowed | P! |
| 03:26.23 | Guillotine | I suppose. I guess it all comes down to how expensive the quest line is |
| 03:27.11 | Guillotine | Anyone have a suggestion for a nice bag mod? I am currently using ArkInventory, OneBag (for when ArkInventory stops updating), and Sanity (for when I'm using OneBag and can't find something) |
| 03:27.30 | WobWork | Baggins? |
| 03:27.31 | Shadowed | flight form is a must if you're seriously doing world pvp really |
| 03:27.54 | Guillotine | Flight form is. I meant flight form as opposed to epic flight form |
| 03:28.04 | Guillotine | Either way you get away |
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| 03:28.15 | Shadowed | not if they get on there mount! |
| 03:29.14 | Guillotine | but then how are they going to catch you? If you sit in the air, they can't attack you |
| 03:29.28 | Shadowed | magic |
| 03:29.34 | Guillotine | sure they could get off 1 instant cast spell, but thats it |
| 03:30.00 | Guillotine | I suppose epic flight form may save you from PoM Pyroblast AP mages with a light feather, but thats pretty much it :P |
| 03:30.59 | Guillotine | WobWork: tried baggins, didn't like it much. I like the ArkInventory style more |
| 03:31.06 | raevanmorlock | How come this code works for everyone but me... I'm gonna go grazy. |
| 03:31.09 | Guillotine | the only problem is that it seems to randomly stop updating the images/format |
| 03:31.10 | raevanmorlock | crazy |
| 03:31.41 | Guillotine | Raevan: delete the saved variables (if its an addon). You may have an old format of it in there |
| 03:32.26 | raevanmorlock | It's an addon that I'm making |
| 03:35.53 | Guillotine | then thats probalby the problem |
| 03:36.22 | Guillotine | if you've changed the saved variables format at all since you started, its still loading the old one |
| 03:37.49 | raevanmorlock | There aren't any saved variables |
| 03:37.55 | Guillotine | then I have no idea |
| 03:38.02 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 03:38.25 | raevanmorlock | yeah me neither |
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| 03:42.36 | Guillotine | Alright, I'm down to 79 addons |
| 03:44.03 | raevanmorlock | How's your load time now? |
| 03:44.26 | Guillotine | dunno yt |
| 03:44.27 | Guillotine | yet* |
| 03:44.31 | Guillotine | working out dependencies now |
| 03:44.46 | Guillotine | looks like I'll only need 1 more addon to make them all work |
| 03:45.02 | sysrage | is there a mod that tells me how much memory each individual mod is using? (not the total) |
| 03:45.42 | Karrion | sysrage: no, it's not possible |
| 03:45.48 | Guillotine | not really |
| 03:45.48 | Karrion | but it will be in WoW 2.1 |
| 03:46.09 | raevanmorlock | You could enable each addon one by one to find out in the meantime |
| 03:46.17 | Guillotine | right, but thats pretty much it |
| 03:46.25 | Nom- | Big memory hogs, in my experience: |
| 03:46.28 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.34 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.43 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.06 | Guillotine | stuff that displays instance loot isn't that big |
| 03:47.14 | Guillotine | all it stores is a couple numbers and names |
| 03:48.06 | Guillotine | anything that needs large databases. Auctioneer, Informant, MobInfo, ect. |
| 03:48.28 | Karrion | flat memory usage isn't so bad anyway, it's memory allocation you've got to look out for |
| 03:49.43 | raevanmorlock | tooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip", "UniqueTooltipName", UIParent, "GameTooltipTemplate"); tooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipAddMoney", MyAddMoneyFunction); tooltip:SetBagItem(0, 1); -- Any feasible reason why this doesn't work? |
| 03:50.43 | Cairenn | at the moment, the best is http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4611-FuBar-PerformanceFu.html , until 2.1 as stated |
| 03:51.07 | Tain | Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me? |
| 03:51.25 | clad|work | you can run warmup to get some more information.. and i can give you the info to make your UI behave like its 2.1.0 already |
| 03:52.01 | clad|work | i.e. /script collectgarbage("setpause", 130) |
| 03:52.21 | sysrage | thanks for the info, but it's not a big enough deal to mess with it more than 2 seconds. game has just been jerky as hell lately. used to always be smooth as butter. |
| 03:52.29 | sysrage | trying to figure out why |
| 03:53.02 | clad|work | whats your max memory set to? |
| 03:54.06 | sysrage | dunno. i was messin with that before. that coulda been it. will check in a sec. upgrading nvidia driver |
| 03:54.06 | clad|sleep | if its less than 2 times your initial memory (give or take) it could cause you some issues. |
| 03:54.12 | sysrage | initial memory being how much mem all the addons take when i first start up? |
| 03:54.17 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
| 03:54.30 | clad|sleep | sysrage: aye |
| 03:54.42 | clad|sleep | Cairenn: Just preparing =) i actually JSUt woke up.. i fell asleep at 7 O.o |
| 03:55.14 | Cairenn | hehehe, well, don't wake up too much, just enough to stumble to the bathroom and then into bed ;) |
| 03:55.46 | clad|sleep | hehe |
| 03:55.51 | Kirkburn|afk | I totally forgot maintenance was today :/ |
| 03:56.04 | Tain | Maintenance in the bathroom is important! |
| 03:56.07 | Kirkburn|afk | I guess I wo't be flying my snowy gyphon much tonight ^^ |
| 03:56.24 | Guillotine | I am so proud. One of my posts on the forum got deleted for being reported for sticky too much. Apparently blue didn't like my troll thread as much as Alamo's |
| 03:57.23 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 03:57.29 | raevanmorlock | ... So many people wanted it stickied that they deleted it instead? |
| 03:57.30 | clad|sleep | which was yours??? |
| 03:58.18 | raevanmorlock | Kindergarten Cop or The Rock? |
| 03:58.39 | clad|sleep | Who is your Daddy and what does he do? |
| 03:59.04 | Tain | Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. |
| 03:59.21 | clad|sleep | LIES! |
| 03:59.39 | Guillotine | Mine was the one on the druid forum about "Ten ways to nerf druids" |
| 03:59.51 | Guillotine | parody of all the people posting about using bash in cat form ect. |
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| 04:00.09 | clad|sleep | =) |
| 04:00.13 | Guillotine | they were going to do that to Alamo's thread, but Corieiel liked it too much |
| 04:00.18 | Tain | Druids are cursed enough. |
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| 04:00.29 | Tain | So much ability, and everyone hates them. |
| 04:00.48 | sysrage | set to 128mb.. usually starts around 52mb |
| 04:00.59 | Shadowed | 0 > 128 MB |
| 04:01.20 | Guillotine | I'm actually not too worried about nerfs. Same thing happened in beta. People were complaining about druids, but after a bit at 70, it was all ok |
| 04:01.57 | clad|sleep | sysrage: Try running /script collectgarbage("setpause", 130). That shoudl alleviate some issues, and give you a bit more time to work out the problems. |
| 04:03.32 | sysrage | thanks. what exactly does that do? |
| 04:04.03 | clad|sleep | basically turns garbage collection on (incremental still) when you hit 1.3 times the initial memory usage |
| 04:04.14 | clad|sleep | 120 or 110 may be a better value for you, but it should still help |
| 04:06.08 | Tain | I would like to marry Drew Barrymore. |
| 04:07.02 | clad|sleep | k k |
| 04:07.43 | Tain | If you have any pull with her, let me know. I'll do what I can to repay it. |
| 04:09.01 | sysrage | one more question for the night. pre-2.0 i had a mod that made loading times faster. it didn't parse all events during loading or something. forget what it was called. but is there anything like that for 2.0? |
| 04:09.18 | clad|sleep | Best thing ever linked in irc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPONTneuaF4 |
| 04:09.39 | clad|sleep | sysrage: It hasn't been necessary since 1.10 I believe, or at least not well advised |
| 04:09.49 | sysrage | hmm ok |
| 04:10.09 | sysrage | and ya that video is funny as hell |
| 04:10.26 | Tierrie|Work | Tain: it helps if you have one testicle like Tom Green |
| 04:10.31 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 04:10.53 | Tain | Well I could try the van Gogh thing |
| 04:13.38 | sysrage | aww the took my freakin kidney! |
| 04:14.19 | Tain | I want my three minutes of my life back |
| 04:14.27 | clad|sleep | Tain: HAHAHAHA |
| 04:14.30 | clad|sleep | you love it. |
| 04:14.49 | Tain | Knock Knock! |
| 04:19.25 | Cairenn | I want my 3 minutes back too! |
| 04:20.15 | clad|sleep | Its a magical leopluradon charlie!! |
| 04:20.50 | JoshBorke | omg cladhaire, what have you done to me? |
| 04:20.51 | Shadowed | clad you scare me linking that kind of stuff |
| 04:20.54 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 04:20.55 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Cairenn |
| 04:21.00 | Cairenn | gack! |
| 04:21.08 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 04:21.09 | purl | ACTION hugs JoshBorke |
| 04:21.19 | clad|sleep | ~charlie |
| 04:21.33 | clad|sleep | purl, charlie is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPONTneuaF4 |
| 04:21.34 | purl | clad|sleep: okay |
| 04:21.35 | JoshBorke | ~emulate joshborke |
| 04:21.37 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 04:21.39 | clad|sleep | cackle |
| 04:21.41 | clad|sleep | ~cACKLE |
| 04:24.12 | raevanmorlock | help meeeeeeeeeee |
| 04:24.58 | Nom- | Candy mountain ftw |
| 04:25.10 | Cairenn | No help for j00, come back 1 year! |
| 04:25.32 | raevanmorlock | But it's been about a year since the last time I asked! |
| 04:25.33 | Nom- | chaaaaaaarlieeeeeeeee |
| 04:26.16 | Cairenn | and that has what to do with anything? |
| 04:26.28 | clad|sleep | rthe first time i saw all dogs go to heaven the popcorn machine overheated and almost burnt the threatre down |
| 04:26.34 | clad|sleep | they made us leave |
| 04:26.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahahaha http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29571 |
| 04:26.47 | JoshBorke | ok, night all |
| 04:26.58 | Cairenn | night JoshBorke |
| 04:27.03 | raevanmorlock | Nom- said "chaaaaaaaaaarlieeeeeeeeeee" .. just like the little girl always said in teh movie |
| 04:27.09 | Cairenn | ahhhh |
| 04:27.22 | raevanmorlock | That's pretty funny, clad|sleep |
| 04:28.30 | clad|sleep | Mr_Rabies: hahah hilarious |
| 04:28.35 | Guillotine | lua mountaaaaaain. Cladhaire. Come with us to lua mountaaaaaaaaain. lua mountaaaaaaaaaain |
| 04:28.40 | clad|sleep | hahaha |
| 04:28.53 | raevanmorlock | :SetBagItem(bag, slot) is supposed to call the GameTooltip's OnTooltipAddMoney event, right? |
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| 04:30.55 | raevanmorlock | I think WoW is the most frustrating thing I've ever tried to program for |
| 04:31.22 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:31.33 | Shadowed | try Java |
| 04:32.00 | raevanmorlock | I have, Shadowed |
| 04:32.09 | Shadowed | crazy person |
| 04:32.12 | raevanmorlock | I didn't have any problems with it |
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| 04:32.31 | Shadowed | WoW isn't so bad once you start learning how to find out how stuff works on your own |
| 04:32.48 | raevanmorlock | Even C++ is less frustrating |
| 04:32.55 | raevanmorlock | though only slightly |
| 04:33.57 | Thrae | Lua is a very easy language to learn and use. I think you're confusing the WoW API with Lua. |
| 04:34.25 | Thrae | If you want to make a better comparison, try WoW Lua vs coding DirectX in C++. |
| 04:35.28 | raevanmorlock | Thrae: No... Lua certainly has it's annoyances, imo, but the WoW API is the source of most of my frustrations |
| 04:35.57 | raevanmorlock | I finally found a breakthrough after 5 hours of work though |
| 04:36.13 | Thrae | Right...so saying C++ is more intuitive makes no sense, since WoW API isn't a language |
| 04:36.14 | Shadowed | as I said |
| 04:36.17 | Shadowed | [32:16] <Shadowed> WoW isn't so bad once you start learning how to find out how stuff works on your own |
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| 04:38.01 | raevanmorlock | I didn't say it's more intuitive.... I said it's less frustrating. Meaning, I get frustrated far less often and for less time when trying to create something in C++ than trying to create something for WoW |
| 04:38.32 | clad|sleep | well WoW is all about finding some functionality that exists |
| 04:38.35 | raevanmorlock | I know it's a bit like comparing an apple to an orange, but.. meh |
| 04:38.39 | clad|sleep | and copying that. |
| 04:39.06 | clad|sleep | too often peopel start in a different place, and that causes extreme frustration. |
| 04:39.09 | raevanmorlock | That's what I've been attempting, clad|sleep |
| 04:39.26 | Shadowed | aha! |
| 04:39.48 | Shadowed | think i finally figured out how to make it guestimate fairly well same named/leveled mobs by health to the name plates |
| 04:40.27 | Nom- | heh |
| 04:40.45 | Shadowed | only took uh |
| 04:40.47 | Shadowed | 10 hours to do |
| 04:41.33 | Nom- | You mean, you've made something that does what MobInfo does ? |
| 04:42.30 | Shadowed | mob info has more information to go off of then I do |
| 04:43.07 | Nom- | Guessing at hitpoints based on level and type of mob can be dangerous |
| 04:43.27 | Nom- | You might go in and fight someone you think has 15K hitpoints, and find it's a special elite mob that has 55K |
| 04:43.47 | Shadowed | I have to map an infinite amount of same named/level mobs to an infinite amount of name plates (not target frames) at the same time, and I can only go off of health :p |
| 04:44.02 | Nom- | Personally, i'd rather have a percentage until I decide I want to attack and it calculates hitpoints from that |
| 04:44.09 | Shadowed | mob info can at least get info like mana, gender, debuffs, ect |
| 04:44.46 | Karrion | Nom-: I don't think he's trying to do what I think you think he's trying to do... |
| 04:45.03 | Shadowed | lol |
| 04:45.18 | Shadowed | think, name plates like when you hit "V" not name plates as in a target frame |
| 04:45.36 | Nom- | Yeah, I understand what you mean...you're putting a percentage or value on them? |
| 04:45.45 | raevanmorlock | Wow... after toiling away all day, I make 2 little changes and everything is working great |
| 04:46.29 | Karrion | he's trying to use their health value/percentage to keep track of which of multiple mobs is which |
| 04:46.33 | Shadowed | no Nom, tracking how many times a mob was sundered and the last time it was sundered |
| 04:47.30 | Nom- | hmm, i can see that being problematic to say the least :) |
| 04:47.46 | Shadowed | it is |
| 04:49.17 | Nom- | I wonder if you could maintain a live attacker frame |
| 04:49.23 | Shadowed | What do you mean? |
| 04:49.32 | Nom- | Like populate a frame with the target frames of all mobs currently attacking you' |
| 04:50.19 | Shadowed | not with this, you could sort of do it using time outs and combat log parsing however |
| 04:53.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there like some addon that fixes the bug with reporting blocked addons? |
| 04:54.44 | Shadowed | what do you mean by bug |
| 04:55.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | like |
| 04:55.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | say cooldown count is being blocked |
| 04:55.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it says ace2 is for some reason |
| 04:56.01 | Shadowed | theres a reason it does that which isn't a bug...I just can't remember the reason |
| 04:56.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd just like to know what addon's broken so i can bitch at the author :p |
| 04:56.52 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Ace2 internally handles things like scheduled events through its own function, so an error in code from an Ace2 addon may incorrect show Ace2 as the culprit |
| 04:57.16 | Thrae | Mr_Rabies2: Use something like BugGrabber, ErrorMonster, or AL's ImprovedErrorFrame to help find out |
| 04:57.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | its not throwing an error in the traditional sense |
| 04:57.47 | Thrae | A Taint error is still an error |
| 04:57.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | just everytime i cast a spell its like |
| 04:57.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | HEY |
| 04:57.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | NO |
| 04:58.20 | Thrae | There are also addons which deal with tracking taint specifically on wowace |
| 04:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll use bugsack i guess since i have it installed |
| 04:59.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was driving me batty though |
| 04:59.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was constantly enabling and disabling itself |
| 04:59.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | every 10 sec it'd enable then redisable itself |
| 05:01.29 | Shadowed | sooo |
| 05:01.32 | Shadowed | any prot Warriors here! |
| 05:01.34 | Nom- | CT_Mod might be breaking stuff if you're running it |
| 05:01.46 | Nom- | I get blocked function calls from it sporadically |
| 05:01.55 | Nom- | CT_RaidAssist rather |
| 05:03.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrmmmmm |
| 05:04.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | something's trying to hide my shapeshift frame in combat :Oo |
| 05:04.17 | Karrion | Shadowed: prot warrior here |
| 05:04.27 | raevanmorlock | Does the .toc get reloaded when you refresh? |
| 05:04.31 | Shadowed | Karrion you have dev tools installed? |
| 05:04.47 | Karrion | nope >.> |
| 05:04.49 | Shadowed | damn |
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| 05:05.05 | Shadowed | trying to find the event, and the exact text for Devastate when it hits a mob/player and crits |
| 05:05.50 | Karrion | Hmm, I _think_ it's just Your Devastate (h|cr)its <mob> for <dmg>. |
| 05:06.06 | Shadowed | yeah thats what i'm guessing, but I need the event name too |
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| 05:07.19 | Mobeater | is this not the proper way to get the targets name? UnitID("target"); |
| 05:07.35 | Shadowed | UnitName( "target" ) |
| 05:07.42 | Mobeater | ahh, thanks |
| 05:08.23 | Karrion | probably CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 05:08.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha i love it |
| 05:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear "fatality" once and bugsack has already disabled itself |
| 05:08.57 | Shadowed | I know thats used for miss/parry/dodge but not sure about regular damage |
| 05:09.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | some addon i have is breaking like the second i enter combat |
| 05:09.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm not noticing anything different O_o |
| 05:09.17 | Shadowed | Easy enough to test then |
| 05:09.24 | Shadowed | Disable half your addons...enter combat, repeat |
| 05:09.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure it's some ace addon |
| 05:09.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm working on it |
| 05:09.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | gonna disable a few ace ones at a time |
| 05:10.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | going in reverse order from most recently updated |
| 05:12.04 | Karrion | Shadowed: A heroic strike gives: CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE Your Heroic Strike hits Zaggaroth for 14. |
| 05:12.32 | Shadowed | Karrion: Alright thanks, i'll assume it uses that then |
| 05:13.05 | Karrion | <-- happens to have some old combat log parses lying around ;-) |
| 05:13.10 | Shadowed | ahh nice |
| 05:15.20 | Shadowed | Cairenn: busssyyyyy? |
| 05:16.51 | Cairenn | approved |
| 05:16.57 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 05:17.09 | Cairenn | welcome |
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| 05:19.33 | bleetah | damnit, looks like hunter's flying pets are gunna get despawned on some future patch... http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=122453929&pageNo=3&sid=1#55 |
| 05:19.44 | bleetah | (when you mount up on your flying mount, that is) |
| 05:20.12 | bleetah | which I think is a bit silly... if you're PvP.. and you're mounted and flying.. you want a PvP flying pet, yeah? |
| 05:23.28 | Nom- | Except you can't be attacked on a flying mount (is my understanding) |
| 05:23.43 | Nom- | Except by the air defense pvp towns |
| 05:23.50 | Shadowed | Sooo, anyone think a mod to modify name plates in some basic ways like name color, health bar color/alpha, health bar border and such would be useful? :p |
| 05:24.07 | Karrion | Nom-: not exactly... you can't attack, I'm pretty sure you can be attacked (if you're in range) |
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| 05:24.26 | xlvii | How much AP does 20 AGI give? As a Rogue? I can't find formulas anywhere. |
| 05:24.27 | Shadowed | You can be attacked if you're in range, and you can also be knocked off your mount by stuff like discombobulator from engineering |
| 05:24.29 | Nom- | You can't be dismounted by players tho...that's what i got |
| 05:25.04 | Nom- | That's probably a bug shadowed...i heard they were stopping that to prevent mage pom poly exploits |
| 05:25.12 | Shadowed | probably |
| 05:25.20 | Karrion | xlvii: 1agi=1 AP , and 1str = 1 AP for a rogue |
| 05:25.28 | xlvii | Karrion, thanks |
| 05:25.32 | xlvii | How much crit per 1 AGI? |
| 05:25.32 | xlvii | ;o |
| 05:25.34 | Nom- | or did they go down the path of stopping you from actually dismounting yourself ? |
| 05:25.46 | Karrion | don't recall sorry |
| 05:25.57 | Nom- | For rogues, I think it's like 33 agility per %crit |
| 05:26.04 | xlvii | Nom-, cheers. |
| 05:26.05 | Nom- | at level 60...there is a formula |
| 05:26.37 | Nom- | The agility bonus to base critical hit chance at level 60 is: |
| 05:26.37 | Nom- | * Rogue [AGI / 29] |
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| 06:05.53 | Mobeater | ok, if I use myTextureAreaName:SetTexture(r,g,b); I can replace rgb with values and change my texture color, for the life of me, I can not do the same with a font string i.e. myFontString:SetTexture(r,g,b); or myFontString:SetColor(r,g,b) etc, any hints here? I am having diff figuring all the coloring aspects out :( |
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| 06:23.09 | Nom- | VBA has no function to convert from hex to decimal |
| 06:24.41 | Thrae | "VBA"? |
| 06:25.58 | bleetah | VB for Applications |
| 06:26.09 | bleetah | Nom-: well, it's VB.. what do you expect? A rubber ducky? :P |
| 06:26.14 | Thrae | Ahaha |
| 06:26.22 | Thrae | Make your own, it's not hard |
| 06:26.31 | Thrae | Make it in ASM and link it! |
| 06:27.36 | Mobeater | http://www.eclectic-web.co.uk/index.php?jump=http://www.eclectic-web.co.uk/awr/hex2dec.php for all your HEX to dec conversions |
| 06:28.00 | Mobeater | google is your friend |
| 06:35.32 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:35.46 | Nom- | I don't need to just convert the odd value here and there, i've got a buttload to do |
| 06:35.56 | Nom- | copy & paste ftl |
| 06:36.36 | Corrodias | i made some more decisions for my hunter |
| 06:38.43 | Corrodias | the pvp pet will be the cat i picked up |
| 06:39.13 | Corrodias | now, as i understand, for pvp, i want the pet to have low armor & health, high damage, high shadow & nature resistance, dash, no growl, etc |
| 06:40.02 | Corrodias | pve pet will have high armor & stamina, moderate resistances, and as much damage as i can get after satisfying those |
| 06:40.33 | Corrodias | and a pet designed for best tanking would have very high armor & stamina and as much resistance as possible after that, without damage being a consideration |
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| 06:41.20 | Nom- | bah forget resistances |
| 06:41.27 | Nom- | i've never seen anyone attack a pet in PvP |
| 06:41.30 | Nom- | It's always the master |
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| 06:47.07 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 06:47.11 | bleetah | this is true. PvP pets played well are merely annoyance value, use them to chase down the mage who'se trying to get out of combat for a drink, or on the rogue that's gunna try to stealth out |
| 06:47.20 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise my hands... |
| 06:47.22 | Corrodias | i hibernate pets... |
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| 06:47.54 | Corrodias | i'm unhip! |
| 06:48.04 | bleetah | however, the damage is important, as played well they can be quite beneficial. say you're in a small group, and your healer is getting hit on, someone goes after the person hitting your healer, send the pet in for the extra annoyance value and damage |
| 06:50.02 | Corrodias | :( |
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| 07:19.26 | Cairenn | night all |
| 07:19.34 | bleetah | nn Cairenn|afk |
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| 07:32.35 | Corrodias | is it possible to move actions around on the pet bar, like i used to be able to? |
| 07:35.14 | bleetah | yup |
| 07:35.27 | bleetah | (by curious coincidence, I'd just logged my hunter in to check something) |
| 07:37.03 | Corrodias | how? |
| 07:37.29 | Corrodias | i think i tamed a wind serpent on my way down to some place. it knew lightning breath something, and i tought it growl, but then i couldn't rearrange them |
| 07:39.06 | bleetah | dunno.. unlock your action bars, move them around.. worked for me |
| 07:39.08 | bleetah | bbs |
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| 07:39.41 | Corrodias | i'll try |
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| 08:07.31 | Corrodias | yeah, it was because i had them locked, but oddly shift+drag couldn't move them like it could on my regular bars |
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| 08:08.09 | Corrodias | is there a way to lock or unlock them using script? |
| 08:08.41 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 08:09.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.veggiepets.com/ |
| 08:09.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 08:12.02 | Corrodias | could be animal abuse if it doesn't contain the right nutrients |
| 08:12.27 | Corrodias | wow, spending 25 training points on greater stamina will give my pet one whole HUNDRED hit points! |
| 08:12.32 | Corrodias | ;P that sounds pitiful |
| 08:12.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr |
| 08:13.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | it doesnt, especially not for cats |
| 08:13.27 | Corrodias | the level 28 boar here has 1700 already, from what i remember from 10 minutes ago |
| 08:13.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're carnivores, plain and simple |
| 08:13.42 | Corrodias | oh, you're talking about what -i- was saying |
| 08:14.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | you have to supplement them nonstop for them to even live |
| 08:14.02 | Corrodias | that doesn't mean they can't get the amino acids and whatnot from bean protein or something |
| 08:14.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | and even then they get health problems |
| 08:14.13 | Corrodias | necessarily. i can't say i've researched it |
| 08:14.29 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 08:14.40 | Corrodias | i'd rather talk about Greater Stamina than pets and plants, though |
| 08:14.41 | Nom- | somehow, vb thinks the string "3" contains the string "All Departments" |
| 08:14.46 | Nom- | *pulls hair out* |
| 08:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:| |
| 08:14.51 | krka | i doubt that |
| 08:14.54 | Corrodias | 400 hit points costs 185 training points |
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| 08:15.07 | Nom- | krka: It does, according to the instr method |
| 08:15.15 | krka | show code sample? |
| 08:15.20 | Corrodias | 400 hit points for over half of the amount of TP the damn pet gets at all |
| 08:15.50 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.53 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.15 | Nom- | and guess what, that msgbox is being called, and the debug text shows it to be buggered :D |
| 08:18.06 | Corrodias | 150 points for a thousand armor. just one thousand armor. |
| 08:19.17 | krka | can you show the values for DataString and wsDepartmentList.Range("A1").Offset(inc)? |
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| 08:31.38 | Corrodias | so i wonder what 100 health and 240 armor will do for my pet's tanking ability. i'm thinking not a whole lot |
| 08:31.59 | Corrodias | like it might be better spent on resistances |
| 08:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | or dps :p |
| 08:34.13 | Nom- | found the problem with the vbcode |
| 08:34.15 | Corrodias | nah, i've already got the damage abilities maxed |
| 08:34.28 | Nom- | it's sporadically not recognising a return value of 1 as a boolean true |
| 08:34.34 | Nom- | i put a > 0 condition and it all works |
| 08:35.00 | Corrodias | but it seems that this calculator has not been updated for whatever version we're on now |
| 08:35.50 | Nom- | got that working |
| 08:35.52 | Nom- | knock off time :) |
| 08:36.41 | Nom- | I'll have to fix that everywhere else i'm using InStr too I guess |
| 08:36.47 | Nom- | dodgy boolean stuff |
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| 08:38.05 | Zithrax | so what ist here to talk about in here hmmm? |
| 08:41.55 | Corrodias | Pet Level: 70 // Great_Stamina - rank 4 (25pts) // Natural_Armor - rank 4 (15pts) // Fire_Resist - rank 4 (90pts) // Frost_Resist - rank 3 (45pts) // Nature_Resist - rank 3 (45pts) // Shadow_Resist - rank 3 (45pts) // Bite - rank 9 (29pts) // Charge - rank 6 (25pts) // Growl - rank 8 (0pts) // Gore - rank 9 (29pts) |
| 08:42.55 | Corrodias | it does have the right values; it is just missing Gore which i added there |
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| 08:47.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | pig? |
| 08:47.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 08:48.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | their dps is so crappy :/ |
| 08:48.21 | Corrodias | this is true, and i'm not sure i'm satisfied |
| 08:48.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | ravaggggerrrrr |
| 08:48.50 | Corrodias | low health & armor. how do you deal? |
| 08:48.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | honestly their stam is plenty high |
| 08:49.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | since they get a bonus based on your stam |
| 08:49.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they have +7% armor? |
| 08:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | +5%? |
| 08:49.32 | Industrial | I didnt like my level 10 ravager, seems its a dps pet it died so fast, couldnt tank 2 mobs easily |
| 08:49.49 | Industrial | so i disbanded it and took a pig :( |
| 08:50.03 | Industrial | he was nice and purple too |
| 08:50.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | well thatll change when you get to outlands |
| 08:50.08 | Corrodias | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/maniasdata/Mania_StatsByFamily.html |
| 08:50.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and everything has stam |
| 08:50.35 | Corrodias | you know what, those small amounts of natural armor and stamina are shit. fuck them. |
| 08:51.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | my pig does like, half the base dps as my ravager somehow |
| 08:51.55 | Industrial | also my ravager learnt me Gore Rank 2 |
| 08:51.58 | Industrial | and my pig knows it |
| 08:52.10 | Industrial | and every damn 10 minutes it resets to being on and i have to turn it off again |
| 08:52.12 | Corrodias | ravager base damage: +10%; pig base damage: -10% |
| 08:52.28 | Corrodias | the ravager does 22% more damage on normal attacks than a boar |
| 08:52.38 | Corrodias | i doubt it affects the special attacks |
| 08:52.48 | Industrial | i might go back and get it again |
| 08:53.30 | Corrodias | i'd use a certain cat i picked up, the ghost saber |
| 08:53.44 | Corrodias | 0.98 health, 1.00 armor, 1.10 damage |
| 08:53.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | poor broken tooth got hit with a tranq dart |
| 08:54.01 | Corrodias | ravager is 0.93 health, 1.05 armor, 1.10 damage |
| 08:54.14 | Industrial | evens out then i guess |
| 08:54.21 | Corrodias | those two are approximately the same |
| 08:54.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but gore > claw |
| 08:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | since it can hit for quad damage |
| 08:54.41 | Industrial | so, ravager is the new kitty? :D |
| 08:55.04 | Corrodias | quadruple? if it crits & gets double? |
| 08:55.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | mhm |
| 08:56.48 | Industrial | I had this guy :) http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_deathravager.html |
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| 08:57.38 | Corrodias | claw: 25 focus, 55 damage; bite: 35 focus, 120 damage, 10 second cooldown; gore: 25 focus, 73.5 damage |
| 08:57.45 | Corrodias | huh. yeah. gore kicks claw's ass. |
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| 08:58.14 | Corrodias | i really want to keep this damn cat, but i can't argue with the numbers |
| 08:58.34 | Industrial | is that gore with the proc or without |
| 08:58.50 | Corrodias | 1.5 times the average damage for a non-proc |
| 08:59.02 | Corrodias | what i believe to be the average damage it does |
| 08:59.05 | Industrial | wow :) |
| 08:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i see that damn cat again |
| 08:59.47 | Corrodias | so mister ravager gets growl, dash, bite, & gore |
| 09:00.05 | Corrodias | that damn cat looks cool. i don't want to give him up. >:/ but but but how can i justify to myself keeping something like that? |
| 09:09.24 | Rooster[DC] | Goddamned hunters and their animals. |
| 09:10.07 | Industrial | I dueled a rogue and my pet outdpsed him while i was stunlocked. pwnt. (rogue had cooldowns tho :P) |
| 09:10.09 | MageRooster | More of you need to decide to use like... stray cats. |
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| 09:10.27 | jameswilliams | hi |
| 09:10.29 | MageRooster | Is the WoW Master Server down? |
| 09:10.30 | Industrial | lo |
| 09:10.31 | Corrodias | i'll have to dump this boar for a ravager. but i'm keeping that cat in the stable :P |
| 09:10.37 | Corrodias | just to be inefficient in your face |
| 09:10.42 | Industrial | hehe |
| 09:10.45 | jameswilliams | yeah |
| 09:10.58 | jameswilliams | until 11am |
| 09:10.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | he'll collect dust and itll be impossible to level him eventually |
| 09:11.07 | MageRooster | But it's Wednesday! :( |
| 09:11.09 | Corrodias | says you |
| 09:11.13 | jameswilliams | i no |
| 09:11.15 | jameswilliams | lol |
| 09:11.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | then you'll sadly throw him out like i had to do to happycat |
| 09:11.31 | Corrodias | impossible? no, but difficult, possibly very difficult |
| 09:11.39 | Corrodias | stupidly difficult |
| 09:11.59 | Corrodias | like "i'm going to pay for a respec on my hunter because he needs the solo power to level his pet" difficult |
| 09:12.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | like you have to only fight caster mobs to kill things |
| 09:12.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause he wont hold aggro and you wouldnt want him to for a long time anyway |
| 09:12.39 | Corrodias | well, there's marksmanship + survival. survival might help. i haven't reviewed the tree recently. |
| 09:16.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm beast mastery atm i thinkn |
| 09:16.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | my ravager does something like 130 white dps |
| 09:16.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i dont have that much RAP |
| 09:17.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | /script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Music\\GlueScreenMusic\\BCCredits_Lament_of_the_Highborne.mp3") |
| 09:17.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 09:19.30 | Corrodias | now... how can i get to azuremyst isle as a troll? |
| 09:19.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont know if you can |
| 09:20.09 | Corrodias | maybe i'll have to use the cat until i get to outland... :o |
| 09:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | what level are you |
| 09:20.34 | Corrodias | he's 34 now |
| 09:20.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | get a dragonhawk :] |
| 09:20.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 09:20.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 09:21.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | xr->ashenvale->darkshore->boat |
| 09:21.29 | Corrodias | dragonhawk >:P |
| 09:21.43 | Corrodias | boat. those boats are guarded by mad aggressive guards |
| 09:22.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats what inventory slots are for |
| 09:22.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | go streaking |
| 09:22.48 | Corrodias | oh yeah |
| 09:22.53 | Corrodias | how do i get it to stop playing this music? |
| 09:23.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | let it finish? i dunno :x |
| 09:26.05 | Corrodias | about playmusic: This function can be used with website url's such as those used by Internet Radio Stations. |
| 09:27.58 | Corrodias | doesn't seem to work when i try it... |
| 09:30.18 | Corrodias | one of my addons has an error during logout, but of course i can't see what it is >:/ |
| 09:32.58 | Corrodias | attack speeds have been normalized, right? |
| 09:32.59 | Industrial | < Corrodias> now... how can i get to azuremyst isle as a troll? |
| 09:33.01 | Industrial | jump the boat i guess |
| 09:33.09 | Industrial | (darkshore) |
| 09:33.26 | Corrodias | do you know which boat? |
| 09:33.28 | Industrial | not sure about guards :P |
| 09:33.30 | Industrial | the center dock |
| 09:33.52 | Industrial | purpl boat |
| 09:34.06 | Industrial | but a level 10 warrior needs to unlock the cage for you |
| 09:34.13 | Corrodias | unlock a cage? |
| 09:34.23 | Industrial | yeah for the superduper purple ravager :D |
| 09:34.32 | Corrodias | oh, no, i'd rather have an orange/yellow one |
| 09:34.40 | Corrodias | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_ravagerspecimen.html |
| 09:34.41 | Industrial | k |
| 09:35.09 | Industrial | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_deathravager.html |
| 09:35.09 | Industrial | :D |
| 09:35.12 | Corrodias | i take it those are just wandering around |
| 09:35.26 | Corrodias | and some people get this one, in outland, http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/skins/skin_crawlerelite_purple.html |
| 09:35.37 | Corrodias | but it doesn't look like it would be suitable for my troll. no, no. |
| 09:35.50 | Corrodias | and it's a little too obvious a choice |
| 09:36.29 | Industrial | yeah the yellow ones just walk around |
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| 09:37.10 | Corrodias | the raptors are cool, but sadly, they would suck at both dps and tanking :P |
| 09:40.22 | Corrodias | there are two other skins for that model in the files, but apparently not in the game, at least not that are tamable |
| 09:40.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and no dash or claw |
| 09:40.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 09:43.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh they have claw |
| 09:43.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | no dash though |
| 09:44.15 | Industrial | still the boar charge is kinda neat |
| 09:44.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | its not bad |
| 09:44.59 | Industrial | stun him for a sec when kiting xD never tried anything pvp with it tho |
| 09:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | but mostly unnecessary especially with intimidation |
| 09:45.09 | Industrial | yeah |
| 09:45.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | hit intim and dash |
| 09:45.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost like a charge only it lasts longer |
| 09:45.44 | Industrial | :) |
| 09:54.23 | Corrodias | hunter is so damn complex |
| 10:02.09 | Shadowed | How odd, I keep randomly joining channels named "bgrc[4 number string]" |
| 10:03.08 | Corrodias | you have a WoW virus! |
| 10:03.24 | Shadowed | that'd be impressive considering I haven't downloaded any new addons |
| 10:03.36 | Corrodias | it spreads like corrupted blood |
| 10:09.00 | Corrodias | i may just have an "i'm using firefox 2" orgasm |
| 10:11.31 | Shadowed | Victory Rush crits Zabrinah for 1705. Heroic Strike crits Zabrinah for 1574 |
| 10:11.31 | Shadowed | wheee! |
| 10:11.32 | Corrodias | those sound like warrior skills |
| 10:12.12 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 10:13.00 | Corrodias | that means... |
| 10:13.10 | Corrodias | the character was a warrior! |
| 10:13.50 | Shadowed | no, that was me on someone else! |
| 10:14.30 | Corrodias | YOUR character was a warrior!! |
| 10:14.35 | Corrodias | OMG HES A WARRIOR GET HIM |
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| 10:19.43 | Corrodias | my poor level 34 hunter will have to drag a level 10 ravager up 14 levels >_< |
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| 11:02.49 | Nom- | o |
| 11:02.50 | Nom- | m |
| 11:02.50 | Nom- | g |
| 11:03.04 | Nom- | New version of PRaid roxxxxxxx |
| 11:03.19 | Corrodias | oh, a new version? |
| 11:03.27 | Nom- | Well, the current version |
| 11:03.31 | Nom- | You can customise columns |
| 11:03.31 | Corrodias | i haven't had a raid since a very small halaa dealie a couple of days ago |
| 11:03.39 | Corrodias | and i didn't have any raid frames installed at that time so i didn't see anything |
| 11:03.41 | Nom- | group by group or class |
| 11:03.44 | Nom- | it's sooooooo cool |
| 11:04.49 | Corrodias | i like to do it by class |
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| 11:06.47 | Nom- | it defaults to class it seems |
| 11:06.53 | Nom- | But freakin awesome nonetheless |
| 11:07.12 | Corrodias | does it still do that thing where it highlights people with things you can decurse? |
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| 11:09.40 | Vuoripeikko | is the blizzard normal ui the lightest ui there is? im trying to get wow play faster (shitty comp) |
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| 11:15.32 | Vuoripeikko | is the blizzard normal ui the lightest ui there is? im trying to get wow play faster (shitty comp) |
| 11:18.23 | haste | O |
| 11:18.32 | haste | I'm going to be an ass as you said it twice in five min :) |
| 11:19.39 | Vuoripeikko | :) im trying to get a answer |
| 11:26.18 | Corrodias | i wonder |
| 11:27.26 | Corrodias | you can unregister the default frames from events, hide them, and replace them with custom stuff. i don't know that it gets any -simpler- than the default UI, but there might be something faster |
| 11:28.16 | Corrodias | now that you mention it, i think hiding my UI increases my framerate by up to 50% |
| 11:28.37 | Corrodias | but mine's quite modified |
| 11:30.27 | Vuoripeikko | is there a way to "hide" the normal ui and have a simple one? |
| 11:30.35 | Vuoripeikko | and increase framerate |
| 11:31.33 | Corrodias | as far as i'm aware, it's possible to do such a thing, but there may not yet exist an addon to do it |
| 11:34.34 | Vuoripeikko | my comp is just so damn shitty |
| 11:34.38 | Vuoripeikko | -_- |
| 11:35.53 | Corrodias | yes |
| 11:36.08 | Corrodias | WoW has large outdoor areas |
| 11:36.35 | Corrodias | in Nagrand, i get mid 30's for a framerate. in FEAR, it never dropped below 40 (as long as i didn't turn on soft shadows). |
| 11:36.48 | Vuoripeikko | http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8458/myuiwj3.jpg something like this. |
| 11:37.09 | Corrodias | there's nothing simple about that interface, actually |
| 11:37.40 | Corrodias | you don't see the party frame, and miscellaneous art is removed, but the art has a minimal impact, i expect |
| 11:38.09 | Corrodias | it still has the unitframes, experience/reputation bar, minimap, action bars, and chat box, all default UI stuff |
| 11:38.28 | Vuoripeikko | if the actionbars would be small, take out the unit frame |
| 11:38.32 | Vuoripeikko | then it would be nice |
| 11:38.50 | Vuoripeikko | the hud could be there |
| 11:38.55 | Corrodias | plus, there's an inherent flaw with that screenshot |
| 11:39.01 | Vuoripeikko | hmmm? |
| 11:39.04 | Corrodias | the player has obviously poorly chosen his side. he's riding a gryphon. |
| 11:39.19 | Vuoripeikko | well that is most correct sir |
| 11:39.33 | Corrodias | the correct thing would be to be riding a wyvern, you see. |
| 11:40.11 | Vuoripeikko | *cough* netherdrake *cough* |
| 11:41.26 | Corrodias | nah, then he'd be a pvp nerd! |
| 11:41.44 | Vuoripeikko | but is there anyway of making it simplified, without sacrificing the frame rate |
| 11:41.47 | Corrodias | all making videos of how he attacks hapless AFK players |
| 11:41.57 | Vuoripeikko | :D |
| 11:42.09 | Corrodias | i really don't know much about optimizing the performance |
| 11:43.04 | Vuoripeikko | i have all the video settings at 0 |
| 11:46.28 | Vuoripeikko | here is another fine sample, if you take that ugly grey box away http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/Ninja-Sensei/WoWScrnShot_020707_032044.jpg |
| 11:47.21 | Corrodias | those certainly look "clean" |
| 11:47.31 | Corrodias | my interface looks quite cluttered by comparison |
| 11:47.53 | Vuoripeikko | do you have a screenshot? |
| 11:50.01 | haste | what grey box? |
| 11:50.07 | Corrodias | sure, hang on |
| 11:50.54 | Vuoripeikko | i mean the grey box which is behind the chat box |
| 11:51.57 | haste | I guess you can blame me for those |
| 11:52.38 | Vuoripeikko | have you developed that addon? |
| 11:54.09 | haste | I wrote oSkin, which let you spawn frame like that on the bottom and the top. It was renamed to Skinner as people raped the code into pure shit |
| 11:54.14 | Corrodias | i'm preparing screenshots |
| 11:56.12 | Corrodias | here's a slightly older one, during a raid. http://corrodias.no-ip.org:28960/Hakkar_Battle.jpg |
| 11:56.36 | Corrodias | and this is more current, showing a regular party frame. the space between the player frame and party frames is for the player's pet frame, which isn't present: http://corrodias.no-ip.org:28960/WoWScrnShot_020607_230556.jpg |
| 11:57.34 | haste | http://xrl.us/uonu << my ui :3 |
| 11:57.46 | Corrodias | oh man, you just had to give us .png didnt you |
| 11:57.56 | Corrodias | i should slap you :) |
| 11:58.22 | haste | waah? |
| 11:58.37 | haste | ÃŒt even works on this school computer, I don't see why you should have a problem with it :) |
| 11:59.18 | Corrodias | it's just that the file size is larger than a .jpg would be, and no more revealing about what your ui looks like |
| 11:59.38 | haste | actually I've tested, the JPEG is larger at the same quality :) |
| 11:59.50 | Corrodias | but anyway, that's nice. i wish i had a monitor that could pull a resolution like that, but sadly i am stuck with 1280x960. |
| 12:00.24 | haste | I use a script to convert my images from TGA, it does both and deletes the largest |
| 12:00.33 | Corrodias | i run my desktop at 1280x1024 and WoW in a window. i put it as far to the top as i can, so i just have one pixel of titlebar at the top and some space at the bottom to watch IRC or quickly switch windows with |
| 12:00.50 | Corrodias | i am concerned about the future, when i have a monitor where it would be inconvenient to use WoW in a window. i like using windows so much. |
| 12:00.57 | Corrodias | i see |
| 12:01.05 | haste | I run Linux, so I run WoW in it's on virtual desktop |
| 12:01.25 | haste | fast "alt-tabbing" and no loss due to windowed mode |
| 12:01.33 | Vuoripeikko | still my problem is unsolved, but i think ill try bongos |
| 12:01.43 | Mikma | mountaintroll |
| 12:02.22 | Vuoripeikko | yah? |
| 12:02.31 | Corrodias | one main problem with a window is that it has borders |
| 12:02.58 | Corrodias | if i were to run it in a window, i'd be losing at least two pixels from the bottom, although that's not a huge amount |
| 12:02.58 | haste | I can prevent that also :) |
| 12:03.12 | haste | I can also run my WoW in fullscreen, in a desktop window |
| 12:03.16 | Corrodias | the taskbar takes one pixel (although i could tell it to not be on top) and the bottom row of the titlebar takes one pixel |
| 12:03.29 | Corrodias | linux certainly gives its users more control |
| 12:03.33 | Corrodias | windows is terrible at that |
| 12:03.43 | haste | linux gives you more to break also |
| 12:03.57 | haste | not that it matters much, as I find tinkering fun |
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| 12:04.20 | haste | but I'm going to switch computer now |
| 12:07.26 | haste | :3 |
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| 12:09.58 | Vuoripeikko | http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/1655/eechouifinalad4.jpg this is something which i could even use |
| 12:10.56 | haste | then what about the chat :) ? |
| 12:11.31 | Vuoripeikko | small window on the left side |
| 12:14.12 | haste | the buffs wil also take quite a lot of space during partys |
| 12:14.35 | haste | so it will make itself rather unclean when not solo |
| 12:15.06 | haste | oh, and in the image I posted, the top bar is removed |
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| 12:29.21 | Corrodias | wow! well, it's been a long day, and now i will sleep. 'ni |
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| 12:50.24 | amro`afk | damned slash commands |
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| 13:04.15 | Vuoripeikko | gief minimalist ui |
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| 13:10.28 | Corrodias | you know what, screw you guys |
| 13:10.30 | Corrodias | i'm going home |
| 13:10.43 | Corrodias | or rather i'm going to use that cat for a while and see how it goes |
| 13:10.48 | Vuoripeikko | nooooo |
| 13:10.49 | Vuoripeikko | :D |
| 13:11.09 | Vuoripeikko | I found a really minimalistic UI... but theres no download button! |
| 13:11.21 | Corrodias | show me |
| 13:11.52 | Vuoripeikko | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=UI&msgnum=1149# |
| 13:12.17 | JoshBorke | Minimalistic as far as in game gui, not necessarily resources :-D |
| 13:12.35 | Vuoripeikko | its so beautiful.. |
| 13:12.35 | Corrodias | especially if it's discord |
| 13:12.41 | Vuoripeikko | ^_^ want it |
| 13:12.49 | Vuoripeikko | yah |
| 13:13.19 | Corrodias | tell me your system specs |
| 13:13.43 | Vuoripeikko | i am at school right now but i remember em somehow |
| 13:14.49 | Vuoripeikko | 1,69ghz processor, 768mb ram, Radeon 7000 series, which has 64mb memory, 10gb and 40gb hardies. |
| 13:15.35 | Corrodias | what's this? Spiders can learn Gore? |
| 13:15.58 | Corrodias | according to one site, but not another |
| 13:16.08 | zenzelezz | grmbl... I've been pondering why WoW looked so old on my computer... turns out Windows had decided to make my monitor 16-bit |
| 13:16.15 | Corrodias | it seems to me that you could use a video card update, primarily, then plus a little more memory |
| 13:17.00 | Vuoripeikko | make a magic trick and make money out of air, then ill buy a new one |
| 13:17.12 | Vuoripeikko | life is expensive |
| 13:19.22 | Vuoripeikko | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=UI&msgnum=1149# |
| 13:19.26 | Vuoripeikko | still |
| 13:19.32 | Corrodias | there's a rank 9 to claw |
| 13:19.54 | Corrodias | Gore averages 73.5 damage, and claw now averages 65 damage. that's close enough that i'm comfortable using a cat. |
| 13:20.36 | Vuoripeikko | Swoops pwn. They are good pets, me thinks. |
| 13:22.54 | Industrial | but gore has a 50% proc to do double |
| 13:23.12 | Corrodias | that's 1.5 times its average non-proc damage, which is 49 |
| 13:23.46 | Corrodias | if it does double damage 50% of the time, that's 150% total damage average, which is a factor of 1.5 |
| 13:23.58 | Industrial | yea |
| 13:25.36 | Corrodias | http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/names.htm |
| 13:25.50 | Corrodias | what? i had other stuff typed before that. i was saying, i think i've found a good place to find a name for a pet. :P |
| 13:26.56 | Industrial | my pet names match my own char and the pet type |
| 13:27.12 | nevcairiel | Industricat? |
| 13:27.18 | Industrial | lol |
| 13:27.21 | Industrial | troll + turtle = snappy |
| 13:27.49 | Industrial | i couldnt name my ravager "wryyyyyy" |
| 13:27.51 | Industrial | :( |
| 13:29.14 | Corrodias | why not? |
| 13:29.39 | Corrodias | well, let's see. troll... plus cat... Uglypussy |
| 13:29.45 | Industrial | dunno it wouldnt take it, invalid |
| 13:30.02 | Industrial | no lol id name it punani |
| 13:30.11 | Industrial | xD |
| 13:30.13 | Corrodias | Butterface |
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| 13:35.45 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74260141&sid=1 XD |
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| 13:38.35 | cladhaire | haha cogwheel |
| 13:43.43 | Industrial | ^^ |
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| 15:22.48 | SCalimlim | This should cast Misdirection when shift is held, Distracting Shot when ctrl is held, and Hunter's Mark otherwise, right? |
| 15:22.56 | SCalimlim | cast [modifier:shift] Misdirection; [modifier:ctrl] Distracting Shot; Hunter's Mark |
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| 15:25.01 | SCalimlim | doesn't seem to ever want to cast misdirection, although it always shows the misdirection icon when using the ? |
| 15:25.35 | sysrage | try putting [nomodifier] on hunters mark |
| 15:25.38 | nevcairiel | try [nomodifier] |
| 15:25.42 | nevcairiel | bleh to slow! |
| 15:25.43 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:26.20 | SCalimlim | still no luck, acts the same |
| 15:26.27 | SCalimlim | never misdirection, always misdirection icon |
| 15:27.24 | sysrage | dunno then |
| 15:29.41 | SCalimlim | using the ? icon is supposed to make the macro's icon vary based on what skill would be cast, right? |
| 15:31.37 | nevcairiel | i dont think the icon can change dynamicly |
| 15:31.43 | SCalimlim | ah gotcha |
| 15:35.37 | SCalimlim | ah figured it out |
| 15:35.46 | SCalimlim | ctmod's lock actionbar setting uses shift to drag skills |
| 15:35.50 | SCalimlim | and for some reason, enabling it |
| 15:36.01 | SCalimlim | prevents macros from detecting the shift modifier key |
| 15:36.20 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:48.02 | sysrage | heh. that's why the default ui changed shift-drag instead of shift-click |
| 15:48.10 | sysrage | *changed to |
| 15:48.19 | SCalimlim | ctmod's is too |
| 15:48.29 | SCalimlim | the problem went away if i used a hotkey instead of clicking it |
| 15:48.30 | sysrage | obviously not? |
| 15:48.33 | SCalimlim | which isnt a problem |
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| 15:48.39 | SCalimlim | or rather, which solved the problem |
| 15:48.45 | SCalimlim | because i was just using shift click to test |
| 15:48.54 | SCalimlim | the real macro is going on a hotkey |
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| 16:16.59 | cogwheel|work | anyone know if warla is still working on wowledgebase? |
| 16:28.21 | Industrial | wowledgebase |
| 16:28.23 | Industrial | ? |
| 16:28.53 | cogwheel|work | http://wowledgebase.com/?id=26 |
| 16:29.27 | cogwheel|work | there's no link on the main wowledgebase.com page to download the program that uploads the data... |
| 16:30.40 | Industrial | isnt warla, like, Kaelten's char? :P |
| 16:32.58 | zenzelezz | warla at least use(d?) to come in here on the nick "warla" |
| 16:33.29 | Industrial | then ignore what i said |
| 16:33.44 | Industrial | =) |
| 16:42.34 | cogwheel|work | Cide: I looked around on CTP's forums but nothing caught my eye... do you know of any problems with the profile import feature? In came back with a few errors: Invalid item in Trinket1Slot & trinket2slot, invalid talent set... The funny thing is that it correctly found my trinkets but one of my rings, my gloves, and my belt are missing from the profile |
| 16:42.34 | Kaso | Ive noticed problems importing outland greens also. |
| 16:42.35 | cogwheel|work | ~seen warla |
| 16:43.00 | purl | warla <i=Darky28@153.220.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowroster, 31d 20h 54m 41s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 16:43.01 | cogwheel|work | ~seen purl |
| 16:43.06 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (11d 17h 19m 30s) #botpark (11d 17h 19m 30s) #linuxfund (11d 17h 19m 30s) #wowi-lounge (11d 17h 19m 30s) #edev (11d 17h 19m 30s) #fossfund (11d 17h 19m 30s) #hosernet (11d 17h 19m 30s) #norganna (11d 17h 19m 30s) #creativeforum (11d 17h 19m 30s) #ud (11d 17h ... |
| 16:43.21 | cogwheel|work | :( |
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| 16:56.49 | cogwheel|work | Cide: FWIW, I uploaded my itemcache & SV files and no new items were added... |
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| 17:24.50 | Cide | cogwheel|work: back, sorry |
| 17:25.06 | cogwheel|work | np... no hurry :) |
| 17:25.25 | Cide | profile import is on the list of things to fix |
| 17:25.30 | cogwheel|work | kk |
| 17:26.00 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 17:26.02 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 17:26.11 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:26.14 | Cairenn | morning JoshBorke |
| 17:26.32 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 17:26.37 | JoshBorke | well, afternoon actually =P |
| 17:27.15 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 17:27.20 | |FF|Im2good4u | Cide: are u going to add pet windows to the CTRA2 ? |
| 17:27.28 | Cide | maybe |
| 17:28.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | it would be nice if my pet finely gets some healing :P instead of the "we cant see your pets health" |
| 17:28.48 | JoshBorke | psh, pets are useless =P |
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| 17:30.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | not when fighting Garr |
| 17:30.06 | Cide | doesn't have to do with me |
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| 17:30.19 | Cide | pet support is rather lacking right now |
| 17:32.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | well i was asking since blizzard ui added it witch is nice in my opinion |
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| 17:34.51 | Cide | yes, but the blizzard ui is not tainted |
| 17:34.57 | Cide | like I said, maybe |
| 17:35.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | Oke i bet you make something nice of it ;D |
| 17:36.30 | Cide | of course |
| 17:36.34 | Cide | I only make nice things! |
| 17:38.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | i make things only me finds nice :P |
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| 17:55.56 | |FF|Im2good4u | Cide: something iv been thinking about for raiding is clickable windows for the "raidmarked" mobs since sometimes u got to strugle to select the right target |
| 17:56.32 | nevcairiel | generally one tank will have those in target, or not ? :D |
| 17:56.33 | zenzelezz | don't think there is a unit ID for the raid marked |
| 17:57.15 | Cide | we'll have something like that |
| 17:57.21 | Cide | but no, zenzelezz is right |
| 17:58.04 | nevcairiel | you can only get mobs in a frame, if someone targets them .. but with raidmarked mobs .. someone generally targets them. at least you hope :) |
| 17:58.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm well in fights like garr there so many targerts and often a warlock or tank dies then, me as the main hunter to mark mobs losses the targer in my tank list :( |
| 17:58.56 | nevcairiel | people still think about garr? |
| 17:58.57 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:59.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | well there gona be new bosses :P |
| 17:59.15 | DnT|kib | Garr is srs bsnss. |
| 17:59.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | well garr is like major domo a pain in the ass to hunters mark the mobs :P |
| 18:00.23 | JoshBorke | 30% until lvl 70 =D |
| 18:01.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | is that 30% from 60-70 or 69-70 :P |
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| 18:01.45 | nevcairiel | or 30% from 1-70 ? :) |
| 18:01.54 | JoshBorke | it's true, it's true. 30% from 1-70 |
| 18:07.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | OnMovieShowSubtitle wtf is this for an widget event lol |
| 18:13.11 | amro | for the introductions when you make a new character |
| 18:13.23 | amro | the ui needs to know about them somehow |
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| 18:16.59 | Bouvi | I want to party like it 1989..... (What? I love 80s music) |
| 18:17.10 | Cide | is there an event that fires when you gain/lose an item (or when you get more/less of an item, if you split and trade away half a stack, for example)? |
| 18:17.26 | haste | Bouvi: Electric Lights Orcestra - Twilight, :) ? |
| 18:17.34 | Cide | (I'd rather not use BAG_UPDATE) |
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| 18:19.26 | Cairenn | hi Bouvi |
| 18:20.18 | haste | Twilight is one of the few songs I like from ELO, but then again - the song is older then me |
| 18:20.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe u can hook some of the bag functions |
| 18:21.00 | Bouvi | Hey Cairenn :) |
| 18:21.17 | Cairenn | hey Bouvi - you ever hear from Loz at all any more? |
| 18:21.45 | Cairenn | gah, don't answer just yet, need to reboot my computer |
| 18:21.47 | Bouvi | Not heard from him in a long time |
| 18:22.10 | Cide | |FF|Im2good4u: that's worse |
| 18:22.17 | JoshBorke | Cide: don't think so =/ |
| 18:22.44 | JoshBorke | think that's one of the reasons they wrote SpecialEvents for Ace |
| 18:23.51 | Cide | ya, don't need that :P |
| 18:24.22 | JoshBorke | so it sounds like you need to use BAG_UPDATE :-P |
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| 18:32.22 | Bouvi | Not seen him in a bit Cairenn |
| 18:32.45 | Cairenn | okay, thanks Bouvi |
| 18:32.56 | krka | crap.. i messed up gdm or x or something |
| 18:33.10 | JoshBorke | krka: just use Vista ;-) |
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| 18:37.33 | amro | krka: did you accidentally kill it? |
| 18:38.05 | amro | try Ctrl-Alt-F1, kill it then run gdm again |
| 18:38.24 | JoshBorke | i think you should run rm -rf /etc/* |
| 18:38.29 | JoshBorke | and reboot |
| 18:38.43 | amro | are you a wow GM? |
| 18:39.05 | JoshBorke | no, if i was, i'd say to rm -rf /bin |
| 18:39.15 | krka | i was just playing around with xorg.conf to setup two x sessions |
| 18:39.21 | krka | didnt work, and now i cant revert it |
| 18:39.29 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 18:39.29 | amro | what distro are you using? |
| 18:39.37 | JoshBorke | startx --0:1? |
| 18:39.45 | JoshBorke | or whatever it used to be |
| 18:39.45 | amro | under debian you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' |
| 18:40.22 | amro | or just run xorg's config script for whatever distro you're using |
| 18:40.59 | krka | or to be more accurate, X starts, but then it's just black and an X shaped cursor |
| 18:41.38 | krka | using ubuntu |
| 18:42.26 | amro | then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:42.43 | amro | and you get a nice friendly config wizard |
| 18:43.48 | krka | tried that... gdm still has problems |
| 18:46.07 | krka | yay, fixed it |
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| 19:06.10 | Kaso | its amusing when a program runs better under wine than it does on Windows XP >.< |
| 19:06.36 | Tierrie|Work | not half as amusing as windows vista crashing |
| 19:06.52 | Tierrie|Work | Cairenn: Electric Boogaloo |
| 19:24.53 | Cairenn | Tierrie|Work: ? |
| 19:24.55 | Tierrie|Work | I mean Hi |
| 19:24.55 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 19:24.56 | Cairenn | hi Tierrie|Work :) |
| 19:25.13 | cogwheel|work | Kaso: I experienced that with WoW, but then realized for some reason it wasn't doing FSAA and the anisotropic filtering didn't work at max setting :P |
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| 19:28.01 | Tierrie|Work | so does the fact that you lose money doing a Primal Might transmute irk anyone? |
| 19:32.08 | zenzelezz | you lose money? |
| 19:33.03 | Tierrie|Work | yes the components costs are roughly 140g, the sales prices is less than 120g |
| 19:34.49 | zenzelezz | if you're making them to sell them, then yes, you probably lose money |
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| 19:35.05 | zenzelezz | if you just do them with other people's materials it should be income =) |
| 19:35.18 | Tierrie|Work | there's no reason to make them at all, if you need them, you'd make more money selling the parts and then purchasing the end product |
| 19:38.16 | foxlit | _G["name"] is a fully qualified alternative to getglobal("name"), right? |
| 19:38.28 | Cide | yes |
| 19:38.32 | Cide | it's a faster alternative |
| 19:38.48 | cogwheel|work | but _G doesn't exist by default... |
| 19:38.52 | Cide | yes it does |
| 19:38.58 | Cide | as of some versions ago |
| 19:39.02 | cogwheel|work | oh... |
| 19:39.10 | Cide | s/versions/patches/ |
| 19:39.13 | cogwheel|work | neat |
| 19:39.48 | cogwheel|work | is it faster still to make a local reference to _G? |
| 19:43.43 | Cide | ya |
| 19:44.19 | Tierrie|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.30 | Tierrie|Work | but i don't think it will hurt |
| 19:44.53 | Tierrie|Work | though someone reading your code might think "oh he's reading from _G, maybe I can write to _G" |
| 19:44.56 | Tierrie|Work | and then bad things happen |
| 19:53.48 | cncfanatics | Hi all, anyone experienced with the widget API ? i'm having problems |
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| 19:55.38 | cogwheel|work | We won't bite if you just ask :P |
| 19:56.52 | Tierrie|Work | i will |
| 19:56.54 | Tierrie|Work | rawr |
| 19:56.59 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 19:57.08 | Tierrie|Work | haha |
| 19:57.30 | Tierrie|Work | this year is going to rock so much for movies |
| 19:57.37 | Tierrie|Work | Ghost Rider, Spider-Man, Harry Potter |
| 19:57.41 | raevan|sleep | Does anyone know an addon that records the prices of equipped items? |
| 19:57.42 | Bouvi | Fantastic Four |
| 19:57.55 | Tierrie|Work | raevan|sleep: Lootlink |
| 19:58.13 | raevan|sleep | dank ya sir |
| 19:58.13 | Tierrie|Work | Bouvi: I don't know about FF |
| 19:58.18 | Tierrie|Work | the last one was subpar |
| 19:59.28 | Tierrie|Work | and by that I mean there was par, and then Jessica Alba was below it sucking |
| 19:59.28 | raevanmorlock | But she looked so hot sucking at it |
| 19:59.28 | Tierrie|Work | too bad her character's ability was to turn invisible |
| 19:59.28 | Bouvi | I enjoyed it |
| 19:59.32 | raevanmorlock | Yes--that was a stupid move |
| 19:59.34 | raevanmorlock | ha |
| 19:59.46 | Tierrie|Work | i'm the hottest thing in this movie |
| 19:59.50 | Tierrie|Work | therefore i shall be invisible |
| 19:59.53 | raevanmorlock | And she looked nothing liek Sue Richards |
| 19:59.57 | Tierrie|Work | truf |
| 20:00.00 | Tierrie|Work | isn't sue a blonde? |
| 20:00.05 | raevanmorlock | Yes |
| 20:00.11 | Tierrie|Work | sue is hot |
| 20:00.17 | raevanmorlock | Sue is not hot |
| 20:00.22 | Tierrie|Work | oh and Transformers! |
| 20:00.28 | Tierrie|Work | god how did I forget? |
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| 20:00.47 | raevanmorlock | They're making a Transformers movie..? |
| 20:00.55 | Tierrie|Work | !!! |
| 20:01.02 | Tierrie|Work | they are done, it is in postproduction now |
| 20:01.04 | Bouvi | Your kidding right? |
| 20:01.09 | Tierrie|Work | WTF |
| 20:01.14 | Tierrie|Work | which cave have you talibans been living in |
| 20:01.27 | Bouvi | Not you Tierrie I was talkin to raevan |
| 20:01.29 | raevanmorlock | I dunno... that could go either way. Some of the cartoons made me wanna die choking on my own vomit |
| 20:01.34 | Tierrie|Work | oh ok haha |
| 20:01.45 | Tierrie|Work | raevanmorlock: http://www.transformersmovie.com/ |
| 20:01.46 | Bouvi | Go see the trailer for it |
| 20:01.51 | raevanmorlock | Yes sir |
| 20:02.01 | Tierrie|Work | oh and 300 |
| 20:02.17 | Tierrie|Work | So, Ghost Rider, Spider-man, Harry Potter, Transformers, 300 |
| 20:02.46 | raevanmorlock | What's 300? |
| 20:02.52 | Tierrie|Work | goddamn it Osama |
| 20:03.02 | Tierrie|Work | http://300themovie.warnerbros.com/ |
| 20:03.06 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 20:03.18 | Bouvi | www.superherohype.com to help those movie challenged people |
| 20:03.42 | raevanmorlock | hold on I'm still watchin the trailer |
| 20:04.45 | Bouvi | Iron Man might be promising if they do it right. |
| 20:04.50 | raevanmorlock | Yeah so that looks cool... the dialogue better not be full of morals and life lessons though |
| 20:05.09 | Tierrie|Work | iron man won't be out for a while |
| 20:05.42 | Bouvi | Starts filming in march. They are shooting for release next year |
| 20:05.44 | Tierrie|Work | haha I remember the most annoying thing abotu Transformers was all that goody goody talk by Optimus |
| 20:05.47 | raevanmorlock | I'm kinda iffy on Ghost Rider--Nicholaus Cage is awesome, but I just don't see him as Ghost Rider... and I was unaware that the whole immolated skull thing could come and go as he pleased |
| 20:06.04 | Tierrie|Work | i don't think it comes and goes as he pleases raevan |
| 20:06.17 | Tierrie|Work | the thing with the ghost rider is that he turns in the presence of evil, whether he likes it or not |
| 20:06.21 | Bouvi | Only at night and in the presence of evil |
| 20:06.23 | raevanmorlock | Yeah... Transformers: Beast Wars was really good.. but most of the others, even the ones I loved as a kid, were just full of "goody goody" talk |
| 20:06.38 | Tierrie|Work | sorry I am G1 all the way |
| 20:06.52 | raevanmorlock | Oooh... well, I didn't know that he could turn at all. I thought after he got possessed, he was just always the Ghost Rider |
| 20:06.54 | Bouvi | Iron Man summer of 2008 |
| 20:07.24 | Tierrie|Work | is it me or am i just overly excited about Harry Potter? |
| 20:07.43 | Bouvi | Could be you. I cannot wait for the last book myself. |
| 20:07.44 | raevanmorlock | ... is it you or you? That's an odd question |
| 20:07.58 | Tierrie|Work | oh the book would be fantastic |
| 20:08.08 | Tierrie|Work | the movie too hopefully |
| 20:08.16 | raevanmorlock | The last Harry Potter I watched.. the one with that life-or-death contest thing... I really enjoyed. But the others, I could've done with or without |
| 20:08.17 | Tierrie|Work | i did wish cuerto didn't work on the third though |
| 20:08.26 | Tierrie|Work | I liked 1,2 and 4 |
| 20:08.38 | Tierrie|Work | 3 sucked on account of the werewolf looking so crappy |
| 20:08.40 | Bouvi | Hard to believe that this is the 5th movie. |
| 20:09.00 | raevanmorlock | Yeah they've been coming out rather fast |
| 20:09.03 | raevanmorlock | I feel bad for those kids |
| 20:09.16 | Tierrie|Work | you know, TMNT is making a movie too |
| 20:09.20 | Tierrie|Work | though I don't really like TMNT |
| 20:09.23 | raevanmorlock | Should I watch the teaser trailer or theatrical trailer of 300? |
| 20:09.31 | Tierrie|Work | teaser |
| 20:09.40 | Tierrie|Work | than you will be like "WTF" and watch the theatrical too |
| 20:09.42 | Tierrie|Work | because its that awesome |
| 20:09.52 | Tierrie|Work | oh Pirates of the Carribean is this year too |
| 20:09.55 | raevanmorlock | lol |
| 20:09.56 | Bouvi | I got sick of TMNT. I owned a martial arts school when it was real popular. |
| 20:10.06 | raevanmorlock | I've seen way too many movies about Rome lately.. which is what this looks like |
| 20:10.29 | raevanmorlock | You owned one? That's cool... I should get back into martial arts |
| 20:10.48 | raevanmorlock | They're makin a 3rd PotC already? |
| 20:10.59 | Tierrie|Work | Stardust (Neil Gaiman), and Rush Hour 3 too! |
| 20:11.03 | JoshBorke | already made raevanmorlock |
| 20:11.04 | Tierrie|Work | yeah Pirates is in production atm |
| 20:11.11 | raevanmorlock | Rush Hour was awesome |
| 20:11.13 | Tierrie|Work | I think actually, Pirates may be in post prod now |
| 20:11.19 | JoshBorke | yea, post production |
| 20:11.21 | Tierrie|Work | what JoshBorke said |
| 20:11.27 | raevanmorlock | You guys most really like movies to know all this shit |
| 20:11.32 | Bouvi | Yeah owned one for over 10 years. Now I am one of the upper level officers in the whole US Chung Do Kwan Assocation. |
| 20:11.36 | raevanmorlock | 300 doesn't do anything for me.. brb |
| 20:11.45 | Tierrie|Work | I intended to watch like 20 movies last year, I watched maybe 3 :( |
| 20:11.48 | Bouvi | www.superherohype.com is my source :) |
| 20:12.12 | Bouvi | I did not watch 1 at the theatre. Rented DVDs |
| 20:12.24 | Tierrie|Work | oh I love the theatre |
| 20:12.52 | Tierrie|Work | I am horrible with DVDs. Give me a pause button and I will take like 6 piss breaks during a movie, and one Stratholme break |
| 20:13.33 | Tierrie|Work | and maybe a Onyxia break |
| 20:13.33 | Bouvi | Not me. Wife and I have a 65" HDTV widescreen with awesome sound. No cell phones and we can pause the movie for whatever comes up |
| 20:13.33 | Tierrie|Work | well, if the movie doesn't pause I pee before, peee fast and don't leave |
| 20:13.49 | Tierrie|Work | but if I can pause it, man, I'm all over the house, folding clothes while watching TV and what not |
| 20:13.57 | Bouvi | I like not having to deal with the yelling kids, cell phones, people talking, etc when I go to the movies. |
| 20:14.15 | Tierrie|Work | well I'm 27, so I liberally give people the evil eye |
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| 20:14.49 | Tierrie|Work | no wait, i'm 28, fuck |
| 20:14.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | is this an error ? http://www.wowwiki.com/2.0_consolidated_changes#API_Changes:_Strings |
| 20:14.58 | Bouvi | Same here but without getting up and kicking them into next week does not phase many and I am still over a decade older. |
| 20:15.04 | raevanmorlock | Most of the movies I watch are curteousy of Cinemax and HBO... so they're pretty dated by the time I get to 'em |
| 20:15.21 | a-stray-cat | is there an easy way to logout without leaving your party? |
| 20:15.25 | Tierrie|Work | |FF|Im2good4u: that looks right |
| 20:15.44 | Tierrie|Work | a-stray-cat: alt-f4 might work |
| 20:15.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | string.trim, string.split, and string.join are also references to the new functions <- that wut i mean |
| 20:15.51 | cogwheel|work | a-stray-cat: /run SendChatMessage("\n") |
| 20:16.00 | cogwheel|work | boots you to login screen |
| 20:16.03 | raevanmorlock | a-stray-cat: You can't log out without leaving a party... they're only temporary things. |
| 20:16.19 | Tierrie|Work | |FF|Im2good4u: sure why not? |
| 20:16.20 | a-stray-cat | cogwheel|work: thanks |
| 20:16.22 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: but if you get disconnected "unintentionally" you stay in the party :P |
| 20:16.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | becase it say string.concat |
| 20:16.53 | raevanmorlock | cogwheel|work: But can you then log back in adn still be in it? |
| 20:17.00 | Tierrie|Work | |FF|Im2good4u: i'd try it, concat and string.join may just be a misnomer |
| 20:17.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | string = strconcat(...) and below it says string.split |
| 20:17.12 | cogwheel|work | yep. just as if you were d/c'ed |
| 20:17.31 | a-stray-cat | because you were d/c'ed, i imagine ;p |
| 20:17.54 | a-stray-cat | works like a charm, thanks |
| 20:18.00 | cogwheel|work | sending a newline in chat gets you d/c'ed |
| 20:18.01 | raevanmorlock | I suppose.. but doing that intentionally seems odd |
| 20:18.17 | a-stray-cat | sometimes theres some downtime in the party |
| 20:18.20 | raevanmorlock | ... as does your intimate knowledge about this game, cogwheel|work |
| 20:18.27 | a-stray-cat | and you want to go check your mule, etc |
| 20:18.36 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: XD |
| 20:18.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | wut i basicly mean is that string.split should be string.concat i gues ill try if it exists |
| 20:18.52 | a-stray-cat | i've been using alt+f4, but wow takes a long time load up for me :/ |
| 20:18.52 | Tierrie|Work | the \n bug has been in game for a long time now |
| 20:19.14 | raevanmorlock | string.split splits a string into two... string.concat joins 2 strings into 1 -- they're definitely not the same thing, |FF|Im2good4u |
| 20:19.59 | raevanmorlock | I was just looking at the new String APIs.. I don't see what's weird about 'em |
| 20:20.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | indeed now i see why i read it wrong |
| 20:20.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | string.trim, string.split, and string.join are also references to the new functions <- they forgot string.concat |
| 20:20.29 | raevanmorlock | ah ok |
| 20:20.51 | raevanmorlock | maybe they're not making a string.concat ^_^ |
| 20:20.58 | Tierrie|Work | I think string.join = strconcat sir |
| 20:21.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | i readed 3 functions there while the 3 lines above didnt show strsplit (witch is the 4rth line above it) so i ovetlooked it |
| 20:21.17 | raevanmorlock | .join uses a seperator.. .concat doesn't |
| 20:21.19 | Tierrie|Work | oh wait |
| 20:21.21 | Tierrie|Work | hoho |
| 20:21.23 | Tierrie|Work | yes |
| 20:21.33 | foxlit | Question: is min/max globally defined by wow, or is something leaking those? |
| 20:21.49 | raevanmorlock | I'd check Blizzard's forums to find out.. Iriel probably has a post on it |
| 20:21.57 | raevanmorlock | That's less likely to be error-prone |
| 20:22.03 | Tierrie|Work | i think its mapped to math.min and math.max |
| 20:22.18 | Tierrie|Work | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/files/details/4845/lua-5-1-1-wow/ |
| 20:22.33 | Tierrie|Work | uh |
| 20:23.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | i think string.concat is just like "lol".."omg" |
| 20:23.24 | raevanmorlock | Actually, Iriel's post says the same exact thing.... so.... I dunno. Would be weird to not have a string.concat |
| 20:23.44 | raevanmorlock | |FF|Im2good4u, it is -- it's not a terribly useful function |
| 20:24.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | no but it might look a bit more cleaner code if u concat loads of things |
| 20:25.00 | raevanmorlock | Yeah, but it's not adding any new functionality |
| 20:25.07 | cogwheel|work | sure it does... |
| 20:25.38 | raevanmorlock | yeah.... maybe it does.... if you have a function with multiple string returns or something |
| 20:25.48 | cogwheel|work | it would take a for loop to concatenate multiple arguments in a vararg function and it would take a table to concatenate multiple returns |
| 20:25.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | string.concat("are you ", "sure) ? |
| 20:25.54 | raevanmorlock | Dammit I'm not talking anymore |
| 20:25.58 | cogwheel|work | (if there were no strconcat) |
| 20:26.00 | cogwheel|work | :P |
| 20:26.29 | raevanmorlock | I'm still getting used to this whole "..." thing |
| 20:26.39 | foxlit | string.concat == nil :) |
| 20:26.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | but even a forloop can use string .. var |
| 20:27.06 | raevanmorlock | Anyhoo... I need to figure out how to find the prices of equipped items for my addon |
| 20:27.32 | cogwheel|work | you have to be at a vendor to determine its price |
| 20:28.11 | raevanmorlock | I know that much :-P I got my addon working for things in your inventory yesterday, but--at least when playing teh game--it doesn't show you the price of things that are equipped |
| 20:28.46 | Corrodias | baby, i can make you feel good~ |
| 20:28.51 | raevanmorlock | Please don't |
| 20:30.35 | raevanmorlock | Why is it that when I search wowinterface for Loot Link, I get 50 returns and none of them are Loot Link? |
| 20:30.51 | Corrodias | because the search requires explicit boolean operators |
| 20:31.04 | Corrodias | and, more importantly, lootlink is one word :/ |
| 20:31.14 | Corrodias | but otherwise it would be "loot AND link" |
| 20:31.51 | cogwheel|work | I think it pulls up anything with lootlink in the description. So any compilation that includes lootlink will probably be displayed |
| 20:31.57 | raevanmorlock | Well I wasn't sure.... and, in my mind, "loot link" would still match "lootlink" |
| 20:32.15 | raevanmorlock | but "lootlink" would not match "loot link" |
| 20:32.35 | Corrodias | but without the "and", you get anything with "loot" anywhere in the title or description, and anything with "link" anywhere in the title or description |
| 20:32.52 | raevanmorlock | oh... it uses OR by default? I hate when things do that |
| 20:33.02 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 20:33.05 | Corrodias | it's no google |
| 20:34.29 | raevanmorlock | Google is a friggin.... I dunno. We need to invent a new word to describe them. |
| 20:35.09 | Corrodias | it's no good search engine with an intuitive syntax |
| 20:35.54 | raevanmorlock | And people need to stop including the Interface/Addons path in their Addon zips |
| 20:36.14 | Corrodias | yes. |
| 20:36.45 | raevanmorlock | WoWi's search engine is fine.. better than anything I've ever made.. I just didn't realize it used OR by default because I don't think anything should |
| 20:38.00 | raevanmorlock | If I click on WoW from the taskbar to minimize it, the music keeps playing... but if I minimize it with the button or even if it just loses focus, it doesn't. That's bizarre |
| 20:38.06 | raevanmorlock | And annoying |
| 20:38.31 | Corrodias | i think you can tell it to keep playing sound while minimized |
| 20:38.37 | Corrodias | but it's strange that it doesn't catch that method |
| 20:41.02 | Corrodias | firefox 2 is just amazing |
| 20:41.16 | |FF|Im2good4u | Does any1 know a way to see if there is a part of text highlighting inside my editbox ? |
| 20:41.45 | Corrodias | memory usage has decreased by somewhere around 80% |
| 20:43.17 | raevanmorlock | When was 2 released? And why was I not informed? |
| 20:43.29 | cogwheel|work | "when" months ago |
| 20:43.45 | cogwheel|work | "why" 1.5 & 2 are essentially different products so there's no automatic upgrade |
| 20:44.15 | raevanmorlock | Well they could've at least informed me... 1.5 sucks |
| 20:44.27 | Tierrie|Work | ..... |
| 20:44.31 | cogwheel|work | ... in comparison... |
| 20:44.40 | Tierrie|Work | I am convinced that raevan is some sort of hermit |
| 20:44.48 | Tierrie|Work | at least! at most he's like osama or something |
| 20:45.05 | Corrodias | i heard about 2 long ago but didn't bother to look into it until just this week |
| 20:45.13 | Corrodias | it's like sex, in browser form |
| 20:45.24 | Shadowed | I'll always prefer IE over FF :p |
| 20:45.29 | raevanmorlock | No, I loved the original Firefox, but somewhere around 1.3, it went to hell. Like, I try to type in the address bar and it starts moving the screen around.. and the copy/paste functions don't work half the time |
| 20:45.38 | raevanmorlock | And there's just all these little annoying bugs |
| 20:45.41 | Shadowed | well yes |
| 20:45.49 | Shadowed | bugs are usually the results of large projects |
| 20:45.58 | cogwheel|work | raevanmorlock: :S |
| 20:46.01 | Corrodias | where 1.5 is like painfully masturbating in your own tears as you weep about how your life is meaningless |
| 20:46.03 | cogwheel|work | sounds more like a beta version |
| 20:46.31 | raevanmorlock | cogwheel|work: Indeed it does... but I've only ever downloaded upgrades that it's told me about--which I assume would not be betas |
| 20:46.51 | Tierrie|Work | hey why are the engineers QQing |
| 20:46.54 | Tierrie|Work | what did they do to engineering? |
| 20:47.00 | raevanmorlock | I often have shit not working and I'll have to move the focus off and back on it for it to work properly |
| 20:47.19 | raevanmorlock | And I haven't been a hermit.. I've just been working and going to school alot |
| 20:47.25 | foxlit | Hm, how do I force a table copy rather than just a reference? |
| 20:47.33 | raevanmorlock | Obviously I've done neither this week |
| 20:47.41 | Shadowed | Don't we have a table.copy |
| 20:47.51 | foxlit | No. |
| 20:47.54 | Corrodias | Tierrie: they made engineer trinkets not work well against people over level 60 and didn't really give them anything new that was interesting, as far as i know |
| 20:48.03 | raevanmorlock | Should I uninstall 1.5 or will it upgrade cleanly? |
| 20:48.09 | Shadowed | Corrodias: Engineer trinkets are awesome |
| 20:48.21 | Shadowed | hi getting almost 90 STA by equipping two rockets |
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| 20:48.28 | cogwheel|work | foxlit: Sea has table copy code |
| 20:48.33 | raevanmorlock | What's "QQing"? |
| 20:48.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Crying |
| 20:48.47 | sysrage | heard somebody in game last night talkin about engineers being able to make a polymorpher. that'd be sweet |
| 20:48.49 | Corrodias | a very bad imitation of eyes with tears |
| 20:49.00 | Tierrie|Work | it is like Q_Q |
| 20:49.03 | Tierrie|Work | or crying eyes |
| 20:49.04 | raevanmorlock | oooh |
| 20:49.10 | Tierrie|Work | or "why are engineerings bitching about X" |
| 20:49.15 | foxlit | As long as it heals and breaks just like the mage one, they'll be mad. |
| 20:49.18 | Shadowed | ah, it sounds like from google you can't dereferance tables |
| 20:49.21 | Corrodias | raevanmorlock: the newer firefox versions are very good at upgrading without breaking shit |
| 20:49.31 | Corrodias | although your old themes and extensions will need to be updated |
| 20:49.32 | sysrage | lol fox |
| 20:49.37 | Shadowed | sysrage we aren't able to polymorph them |
| 20:49.40 | Corrodias | it should disable them and help you search for updates |
| 20:50.07 | raevanmorlock | Corrodias: But will 1.5 upgrade to 2.0? Or will I then have 2 versions of Firefox? |
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| 20:50.25 | Elkano | did upgrade for me |
| 20:50.26 | Corrodias | 1.5 upgrades to 2.0, as long as you install it into the same location |
| 20:50.56 | Shadowed | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=4388 this is what I was talking about that (last I heard) would let engineers dismount people on flying mounts |
| 20:51.13 | raevanmorlock | Alrighty... 'cause I remember I had like 10 versions of Firefox at one point--all in teh same location. And then i could only uninstall the latest one. It was a nightmare |
| 20:51.14 | Corrodias | that little bug was fixed |
| 20:51.18 | Corrodias | re: shadowed |
| 20:51.25 | Shadowed | aw |
| 20:53.03 | raevanmorlock | Goooooin to the chapel and we're gooooonna get maaaaarried |
| 20:53.28 | Corrodias | eww |
| 20:53.48 | raevanmorlock | Keyboards should have a little music note key that we can type to show that something is being sung instead of spoken |
| 20:54.27 | raevanmorlock | Oh.. did anyone else have problems with teh Quality Feedback Agent never ever ever being able to connect back on Firefox 1.5? |
| 20:56.55 | Corrodias | i don't recall that i had it installed |
| 20:56.55 | raevanmorlock | Well lucky you =P |
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| 20:58.43 | kindergip | hmmm....1 pm local wetcoast time - anyone home? |
| 20:58.50 | sysrage | wtcoast! |
| 20:58.52 | sysrage | wet even |
| 20:58.58 | kindergip | :) |
| 20:59.10 | raevanmorlock | I'm near the west coast |
| 20:59.28 | kindergip | dropping by from my perusal of wow sites..... |
| 20:59.37 | kindergip | I'm in Vancouver.... |
| 20:59.40 | kindergip | BC |
| 20:59.42 | kindergip | Canada |
| 21:01.49 | Corrodias | what hte fuck |
| 21:02.00 | Corrodias | alliance NPCs just managed to force me to shift out of flight form |
| 21:02.21 | sysrage | they do that |
| 21:02.35 | Corrodias | i've never seen any other form dispellable |
| 21:02.44 | sysrage | well. at least they knock you off a normal flying mount. i'd assume same thing happens to flying form |
| 21:03.08 | Corrodias | land enemies can knock you off a land mount, but not shift you out of travel form |
| 21:03.14 | sysrage | it's the anti-fly-over-and-annoy-panzy-alliance-cities talent the guards get :) |
| 21:03.37 | sysrage | they can do it from a hella long distance too. pisses me off |
| 21:17.08 | raevanmorlock | yay for freezing! |
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| 21:19.15 | Kaso | "World of Warcraft, a fantasy MMORPG. Lua is used to allow users to customize its user interface, character animation and world appearance." hu? |
| 21:21.29 | Kaso | In relation to charater animationa nd world appearnce i mean |
| 21:22.05 | Kirov | Kaso - oh, didn't you know? You can change your're character's level on the fly through lua. |
| 21:22.18 | Kirov | SetPlayerLevel(999) |
| 21:22.23 | Kaso | And to think i wasted all that time leveling :< |
| 21:22.35 | Kirov | MakePlayerCoolLooking() |
| 21:22.39 | Kirov | Instant epics |
| 21:25.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm does an emprty string ("") also count as false in lua ? |
| 21:25.36 | Kirov | No |
| 21:25.57 | Kirov | Only nil and false count as false in a conditional statement |
| 21:26.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | good then i dont see why my function doesnt work :P but ill figure it out sooner or later |
| 21:26.33 | Kirov | "", 0, etc. all count as true |
| 21:26.44 | raevanmorlock | Kaso, What's that quote from? |
| 21:26.55 | Kaso | From the wikipedia article about lua |
| 21:27.09 | raevanmorlock | Well go fix it.. lol. They're only right on the first account |
| 21:27.32 | Kaso | blah, so much effort, ive gotta log, on |
| 21:27.55 | raevanmorlock | ha |
| 21:28.07 | Kaso | Shoudln't it be it's anyway ? |
| 21:28.20 | Kaso | s/anyway/aswell/ |
| 21:28.39 | Kaso | or am i being stupid |
| 21:28.59 | Kaso | oh no |
| 21:29.00 | cogwheel|work | stupid :P |
| 21:29.01 | Kaso | i am stupid |
| 21:29.04 | Kaso | haha |
| 21:29.13 | raevanmorlock | no... its shows ownership |
| 21:29.15 | raevanmorlock | it's is a contraction |
| 21:31.41 | kindergip | :) |
| 21:31.46 | kindergip | it's the thought that counts |
| 21:31.59 | raevanmorlock | No it's not... somebody lied to you |
| 21:32.42 | Kaso | Consider it a challenge, if you can hunt them down and find there number, you are worthy to speak to them |
| 21:33.24 | raevanmorlock | lol ... Well, I should have her number. But she's (lost/broke/stopped paying the ball on) her cell phone so many times that it's just disappeared over the years |
| 21:35.09 | raevanmorlock | I should go cook some chicken adn make myself a quesadilla |
| 21:37.13 | raevanmorlock | Woot found it.... not that I'm going to call her or anything |
| 21:37.54 | kindergip | go ahead.... |
| 21:38.08 | kindergip | come on....where's your "questing" spirit? |
| 21:39.40 | foxlit | Woah, I found a spectacular bug in my code. |
| 21:39.42 | raevanmorlock | There's no great quest here... I've known her for over 5 years now. She never got around to hanging out with me back when we lived in the same state and she's certainly not going to now that I moved to teh other side of the country |
| 21:40.01 | raevanmorlock | What's better for cutting raw meat.. a serated edge or a straight edge? |
| 21:40.33 | gnorlish | straight edge, 1 long stroke |
| 21:40.47 | gnorlish | if it's lightly frozen then it's easier to cut |
| 21:40.58 | raevanmorlock | it's been thawed for a day or two now |
| 21:41.35 | raevanmorlock | But I shall go cook it now.. thank ya |
| 21:41.44 | Kaso | foxlit spectacular sounds interesting, do tell |
| 21:41.56 | kindergip | straight edge |
| 21:42.59 | raevanmorlock | aw friggin white things.. I forget about them.. I hate them |
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| 21:52.13 | raevan|cooking | Fantastic Four is on HBO |
| 21:52.41 | raevan|cooking | and it's in spanish! |
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| 21:55.45 | sysrage | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm jessica alba |
| 21:56.32 | Shadowed | ~seen clad|sleep |
| 21:56.55 | purl | clad|sleep <n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 17h 17m 49s ago, saying: 'too often peopel start in a different place, and that causes extreme frustration.'. |
| 21:56.55 | Shadowed | ~seen cladhaire |
| 21:56.57 | purl | cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 8h 18m 22s ago, saying: 'haha cogwheel '. |
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| 22:00.41 | cogwheel|work | hehe |
| 22:01.35 | Shadowed | laughed him out of IRC coghweel :( |
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| 22:03.21 | foxlit | string.gsub takes a table at some point, yeah? |
| 22:03.21 | foxlit | I'm thinking of something like |
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| 22:03.25 | foxlit | str = string.gsub(str, "%[(^%S+)%]", table) |
| 22:03.49 | Shadowed | http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial |
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| 22:03.53 | Shadowed | speak of the devil |
| 22:06.21 | Shadowed | clad you busy? Had a few clique questions |
| 22:06.28 | cladhaire | sure whats up |
| 22:07.22 | foxlit | So that's short for "dunno"? :) |
| 22:07.25 | Shadowed | So what info is needed in a frame to make it click castable? Going to release something to let you modify some stuff in name plates and was going to see about making them click-castable, but not sure what information Clique needs to make it possible |
| 22:07.32 | Shadowed | foxlit: no, thats where you can find out the answer :p |
| 22:07.49 | cladhaire | Shadowed: just ClickCastFrames[frameObject] = true |
| 22:07.51 | cladhaire | that's it =) |
| 22:08.02 | cladhaire | as long as it has a GetAttribute("unit") |
| 22:08.07 | foxlit | I know where I can find the answer; I presumed it'd be easier to ask than to look it up. My mistake, obviously. |
| 22:08.59 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure nameplates don't have a GetAttribute("unit") actually...i'm not even sure if they are secure templates. |
| 22:09.34 | cladhaire | if they're not secure, then i can't click cast on them =) |
| 22:10.00 | cladhaire | well, to do so would require extra work, including making new frames =) |
| 22:10.21 | foxlit | And what's surprising is that the lua-users link doesn't match lua.org |
| 22:12.00 | Shadowed | Alright thanks, shouldn't be to hard to make it support click casting |
| 22:14.10 | Shadowed | Oh yeah, second thing is whats the limitation in click casting? Can it do anything as long as it has a GetAttribute("unit") |
| 22:15.30 | Tierrie|Work | cladhaire: so if I set ClickCastFrame[frameobject] = true; it can be click castable with clique? |
| 22:15.50 | Industrial | How do I level a level 10 pet? make it fight level 8 mobs or mobs that are green to me? |
| 22:15.51 | Tierrie|Work | that sounds over simplified |
| 22:16.48 | Shadowed | Tierrie|Work as long as they are secure frames, yeah :p |
| 22:17.10 | Shadowed | was nice being able to add support for it with one line to raid frames |
| 22:20.05 | Shadowed | Didn't we get a function to check what a frame inherits in 2.0.0? |
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| 22:23.34 | Shadowed | oh hey, maybe they are secure functions. Does anything else besides secure templates have GetAttribute? |
| 22:23.39 | cladhaire | Tierrie|Work: Yes |
| 22:23.48 | Shadowed | er, secure templates |
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| 22:24.56 | Tierrie|Work | wooah http://kotaku.com/gaming/feature/feature-the-world-of-whorecraft-234565.php NSFW! |
| 22:25.59 | ckknight | any thoughts, anyone: http://www.wowwiki.com/GetMinimapShape |
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| 22:28.50 | cladhaire | the tokens seem oddly named, but seems to make sense |
| 22:29.22 | Shadowed | interesting |
| 22:29.33 | Shadowed | So I guess nameplates are secure templates, but unit is never used by them |
| 22:29.49 | cladhaire | Shadowed: Can we obtain the unit? |
| 22:29.59 | cladhaire | and set the attribute before we register it with Clique? |
| 22:30.25 | Shadowed | cladhaire: Yeah I can set the unit and get the unit myself, meaning i'll just have to map party/raid units to name before I register it |
| 22:30.51 | cladhaire | k |
| 22:33.12 | Shadowed | Awesome, GetMinMax and GetValue return the percentage if they are ungrouped but actual health if they are |
| 22:33.43 | JoshBorke | ding 70! woohoo! |
| 22:33.53 | zenzelezz | grats! |
| 22:33.59 | Industrial | gz!! |
| 22:34.19 | cladhaire | grats Josh_Borke |
| 22:34.26 | JoshBorke | now i get to farm gold for my epic |
| 22:34.40 | JoshBorke | lvl'd as a disc priest too :-D |
| 22:34.49 | JoshBorke | which btw, 69 disc priest > 70 shadow priest |
| 22:35.40 | Industrial | hm |
| 22:35.41 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 22:35.46 | Shadowed | you can just make the priest go OOM :p |
| 22:35.59 | JoshBorke | one tried to gank me while i was rezzing a party mate |
| 22:36.11 | JoshBorke | and i had > 50% life/mana while he was oom |
| 22:36.19 | JoshBorke | took me a bit to figure out what was going on too |
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| 22:36.50 | [dRaCo] | anyone familiar with macros? |
| 22:37.29 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: Ooh can you do me a favor? |
| 22:37.30 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:37.35 | JoshBorke | what's up clad? |
| 22:37.46 | cladhaire | I need a screenshot, at 800x600 resolution, or MendWatch |
| 22:37.53 | cladhaire | s/or/of/ |
| 22:38.00 | JoshBorke | can ya give me a link? |
| 22:38.18 | cladhaire | aye |
| 22:38.35 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6576-MendWatch.html |
| 22:39.08 | JoshBorke | bah, 800x600 =P |
| 22:39.13 | JoshBorke | can i just crop my screenshot? :-P |
| 22:41.12 | JoshBorke | you ding 60 clad? (nerf horde druids imo) |
| 22:41.16 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 22:41.25 | JoshBorke | i'll just leave it like that and see if he notices |
| 22:42.26 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: No, it can't be cropped, it shoudl be800x600 |
| 22:42.40 | cladhaire | and i'm 70 |
| 22:42.43 | cladhaire | have ben for a while. |
| 22:42.44 | cladhaire | been |
| 22:42.52 | raevanmorlock | Nice.. they finally got Firefox to reopen the old windows when restarting it |
| 22:42.58 | sysrage | somebody in here gave me a url to a faster site to use in the wowace updater. some svn site. anybody have it? |
| 22:43.01 | JoshBorke | figured, just wanted to double check :-) |
| 22:43.14 | JoshBorke | you want me to convert it? |
| 22:43.54 | JoshBorke | wow, it's so tiny now |
| 22:46.17 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com/gallery/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=Mod-Screenshots&id=mendwatch |
| 22:46.29 | JoshBorke | that ok? |
| 22:46.36 | cladhaire | any chance you can get it in action? |
| 22:46.38 | cladhaire | hopping =) |
| 22:46.45 | JoshBorke | erm |
| 22:46.47 | JoshBorke | yea, tonight |
| 22:46.58 | JoshBorke | gotta go to work |
| 22:50.06 | foxlit | Underline tags in SimpleHTML do not show up? |
| 22:50.20 | foxlit | (swallow nested text, too) |
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| 23:06.10 | foxlit | And <p align="right"> when combined with pipelinks doesn't raise OnHyperLink* events |
| 23:07.00 | Tierrie|Work | dudes have you seen that whorecraft stuff? |
| 23:07.02 | Tierrie|Work | woooo |
| 23:08.22 | raevanmorlock | How does Johnny Storm light the sky on fire at the end of the Fantastic Four movie? |
| 23:13.42 | WobWork | Baked Beans |
| 23:14.50 | Corrodias | i saw part of the first one, Tierre |
| 23:15.00 | Corrodias | er, Tierrie. i was not impressed, really. it was pretty much generic porn. |
| 23:15.38 | WobWork | Heeh |
| 23:15.49 | WobWork | Why would the desperate WoW nerd go see that |
| 23:15.56 | WobWork | when there are nightelves that dance for free =P |
| 23:16.43 | Shadowed | Does anyone know why name text above nameplates turns red? as far as i can tell it seems to be a mix of the mob attacking you, and when you lasted attacked the mob |
| 23:16.48 | Corrodias | i'm more interested in porn that doesn't involve penis |
| 23:17.03 | Corrodias | sorry, i don't use nameplates |
| 23:18.33 | WobWork | Corrodias: Lesbian porn, then? =P |
| 23:18.44 | WobWork | I'm sure you can get two nightelves dancing on a mailbox |
| 23:20.59 | Corrodias | well, you don't need more than one person to make it porn, either |
| 23:21.35 | Corrodias | in any case, now i'm having trouble finding a consistently formatted collection of that whorecraft stuff. i want to check the later eps, but it's a little troubling to see .avi's, .mpeg's, and .wmv's all over the place |
| 23:21.36 | WobWork | well, the more the merrier, usualy |
| 23:21.41 | WobWork | until it gets silly |
| 23:21.50 | WobWork | oh no |
| 23:21.52 | WobWork | geekblocked =P |
| 23:29.50 | TC_Working | i bet it would all be formated properly if you bought it.... |
| 23:31.06 | WobWork | -buy- porn? |
| 23:31.12 | WobWork | What internets are -you- on? =) |
| 23:31.20 | TC_Working | legal ones |
| 23:31.30 | WobWork | Must be pretty small =P |
| 23:31.39 | TC_Working | 5X5 |
| 23:31.54 | WobWork | How do you keep from bruising your elbows =\ |
| 23:32.22 | TC_Working | i dont move |
| 23:32.39 | TC_Working | which of cource begs the question of why i have porn.... |
| 23:32.52 | WobWork | Vibrators. |
| 23:33.35 | TC_Working | true, but the last time i checked you could not download those |
| 23:34.05 | WobWork | well.. mail order, I guess =) |
| 23:34.12 | WobWork | ... |
| 23:34.33 | WobWork | although I -do- recall someone hooking up a vibrator to the 'buddy nudge' function of some instant messageing service.... |
| 23:35.20 | TC_Working | thats more of a nudge than i want to give any buddy of mine |
| 23:35.27 | TC_Working | well...with some exceptions |
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| 23:41.45 | zenzelezz | damnit, why are all my non-guild friends always offline when I need to show off epix |
| 23:42.52 | ckknight | free purplz plz? |
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| 23:55.17 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4676.0 |
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| 23:59.23 | Grem_Warsong | Does anyone know if it's possible to get information about a particular tradeskill (and its recipes) without 'casting' the tradeskill? (without CastSpellByName("Blacksmithing")) |
| 23:59.44 | Grem_Warsong | It almost seems like you have to have the Tradeskill UI frame up before you can get details on the different recipes you know |
| 23:59.46 | cogwheel|work | Nope |
