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| 00:11.54 | bleetah | lemmy!! \o/ |
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| 00:33.06 | bleetah | I am a beautiful guy, and you have walked by |
| 00:34.57 | Nom- | Right. |
| 00:35.19 | bleetah | Nom-: l2zappa :P |
| 00:36.15 | Nom- | Right. |
| 00:36.53 | Nom- | I wish I could gauge which mods are causing the most amount of slowdown :( |
| 00:38.02 | tedrock | how do you return your targets name. for example i want it to "/say <target>" when <target> is the command to get my targets name |
| 00:38.29 | Nom- | You can use %T when entering messages |
| 00:38.33 | tedrock | ahh |
| 00:39.02 | Nom- | I don't know if that works from LUA, but if you're doing it in a macro, then for sure |
| 00:39.10 | tedrock | cool worked |
| 00:39.11 | tedrock | thanks |
| 00:40.28 | PProvost | Is it possible for my pet to be in combat while I'm ooc? Or are they linked? |
| 00:40.55 | PProvost | In other words, if my pet draws aggro, does PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED fire? |
| 00:44.28 | bleetah | well, to be honest, I know they're linked.. but exactly how has always eluded me. |
| 00:44.59 | bleetah | eg, I can send my pet in to attack, then sit down to drink. |
| 00:45.20 | bleetah | it's weird, and I've never really gotten to the bottom of the logic |
| 00:45.38 | bleetah | matter of interest, anyone here use Gobby at all? (http://darcs.0x539.de/trac/obby/cgi-bin/trac.cgi ) It's a collaborative text editor with syntax checking, etc. |
| 00:52.44 | PProvost | So, how do I figure out if the pet is in combat then? There is no UNIT_REGEN_DISABLED event... |
| 00:55.42 | cladhaire | UnitAffectingCombat("pet") |
| 00:56.04 | cladhaire | and you'll be put into combat |
| 00:56.43 | PProvost | ok |
| 00:56.45 | PProvost | ty |
| 01:12.23 | bleetah | dolby-wowi: I messaged you about this before, but maybe I went offline if you tried to reply, or you went offline and missed it. Anyway, my question is why are the HTTP 'last-modified' headers missing from WoWI downloads? My mod-getting shell script is needlessly downloading WoWI mods because of this. Or is there another method I can use that'll provide this header? (Further, if I recall correctly when a file is pending approval, you're not |
| 01:13.32 | bleetah | hmm, maybe there was a 307 temp redirect instead of 403 which I missed, not too sure. can't find a pending approval to check |
| 01:13.52 | Nom- | I so need something to keep my mods up to date :( |
| 01:14.04 | Nom- | The WoWAce ones are fine, but everything else gets out of date all the time |
| 01:15.35 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:16.52 | bleetah | should I ring up this idiot who left his phone number on this spam email? |
| 01:16.57 | Shadowed | ~seen Kaso |
| 01:17.26 | purl | kaso <n=kaso@resnet01.nat.lancs.ac.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 6h 23m 4s ago, saying: 'Hokay, well as long as you know whatcha dealing with'. |
| 01:17.26 | Nom- | For sure, but make sure you block your caller ID :P |
| 01:17.26 | Shadowed | thats what pay phones are for Nom |
| 01:17.28 | bleetah | some NSW MLC, it'd appear |
| 01:18.00 | Nom- | Or disposeable mobiles :P |
| 01:20.22 | bleetah | Mob 0429178817 |
| 01:20.33 | bleetah | apparently taking an email address from aunic, not checking it, and bulk emailing people, isn't spam |
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| 01:20.48 | Nom- | bah just found UICentral doesn't do anything but ui.worldofwar.com (it seems) |
| 01:20.56 | Nom- | It's missing about 50% or more of my mods :( |
| 01:21.12 | Shadowed | Well, i'm pretty sure it's an offical worldofwar mod, so thats probably why |
| 01:22.10 | Nom- | All I want is something that will handle all 3 of the major sites - ui.worldofwar, wowi, and whateverthatotheroneis |
| 01:22.18 | Nom- | That would cover about 95% of my mods |
| 01:22.21 | Shadowed | good luck with that |
| 01:22.43 | Nom- | Heck, if there was one just for wowi that would cover like 60% |
| 01:23.42 | Shadowed | 60% of *your* mods, not everyone submits to wowi :p |
| 01:23.56 | Karrion | bleetah: technically/legally speking, if it's a polly, it's not spam |
| 01:26.18 | Nom- | Yeah, all I care about is my mods :P |
| 01:26.41 | Nom- | If only I used just wowace mods, then it wouldn't be a problem *sigh* |
| 01:29.09 | bleetah | Karrion: registered politcal parties are exempt, I don't think this guy is a party as he's an independant |
| 01:29.43 | bleetah | it also must be a purely factual message, but as it's a debate paper on global warming.... :/ |
| 01:30.41 | Nom- | heh |
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| 01:31.01 | Karrion | hmm, I had thought that the exemption extended to any registered election candidate, and would have thought therefore to successful ones that become MLCs, but then I'm not in NSW anymore so I'm not entirely sure |
| 01:31.11 | bleetah | needless to say, I've got a few in ##australia working on it |
| 01:31.42 | bleetah | Karrion: I was reading over http://internet.aca.gov.au/ACMAINTER.1507598:STANDARD::pc=PC_1965#How |
| 01:32.46 | bleetah | needless to say, there's a guy in ##australia with contacts in the fed.gov.au anti spam crew... who's very interested ;) |
| 01:34.13 | Karrion | I think a sitting independent MLC might fall under government bodies? and the way I read that the "purely factual" is an "or" relation, so if it's from an exempted entity the content doesn't matter |
| 01:34.45 | Corrodias | the hell? starfire tank 8 is less efficient than rank 7 and barely does any mroe damage at all |
| 01:35.06 | Corrodias | *rank, not tank |
| 01:35.21 | Karrion | if it really does exempt parties but not sitting independents, that's a nasty piece of law (party pollies giving parties the advantage, sigh) |
| 01:35.45 | bleetah | Karrion: oh well, I'll wait to hear back from the spammatters crew |
| 01:35.53 | bleetah | it's a nasty piece of law, really |
| 01:36.41 | bleetah | I wouldn't have minded, if he'd actually used a real address... but he was soooo stupid to use a clearly farmed address. he deserves some heat. |
| 01:37.02 | Nom- | Corrodias: Most of the new ranks don't give much more (ie. the ranks just above 60) |
| 01:37.03 | Karrion | definitely ;-) |
| 01:37.07 | bleetah | hell, thunderbird even automatically labelled it as spam.. hehe |
| 01:37.20 | Nom- | Anything that you previously had to learn from a book doesn't get much of a buff at all |
| 01:37.41 | Corrodias | this new starfire would decrease the mana efficiency and barely increase damage at all |
| 01:37.44 | Corrodias | fuck that. i'll stick with rank 7. |
| 01:38.06 | Shadowed | Trying to track spells, how many times they've stacked and if they dodged/missed/parried is fun |
| 01:38.11 | Nom- | The point of it is so you don't lose spell damage coefficient at 70 |
| 01:38.29 | Nom- | ie. At level 70, Rank 7 will get less spell damage bonus |
| 01:38.37 | Nom- | At least, that's what i'm lead to beleive |
| 01:39.04 | Corrodias | but they decreased the mana efficiency at the same time |
| 01:39.10 | Corrodias | they could have at least made it stay the hell alone |
| 01:39.59 | bleetah | Karrion: from the way I read it, if you're a true independant with no political party, trying to stand for election, you're not allowed to spam; yet have to compete against sitting members who spam |
| 01:40.47 | bleetah | iirc, the main user of this law when it was introduced, was JWH's son who profited nicely at election time |
| 01:40.55 | Corrodias | well, rank 7 is learned at level 60 |
| 01:41.02 | Corrodias | i wonder how far down that would scale |
| 01:41.16 | bleetah | wasn't there some whack with top level frost nova, too? |
| 01:41.28 | Karrion | bleetah: yeah I'm just looking at the text of the law, and it would seem to exclude independants, nasty |
| 01:42.08 | Corrodias | as i understand, the next rank of frostbolt after the book-learned one actually takes more mana and does less damage |
| 01:42.09 | Karrion | and yeah, I was living in Bennelong at the time, _wish_ I could have called him on that spam legally |
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| 01:43.20 | bleetah | I was living in Lane Cove... I feel your pain |
| 01:43.48 | Karrion | hehe |
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| 01:45.00 | Corrodias | "As a general rule, players will be able to use the top 2 or 3 ranks of each spell before receiving any penalty." |
| 01:45.08 | Corrodias | 1 - (((Level at which next higher rank of Spell is Learned) + 5) / (Player's Level)) = Penalty |
| 01:46.10 | Corrodias | for starfire rank 7, 1 - (66 + 5) / 70 = 1 - 71/70 is negative (no penalty) |
| 01:48.03 | Nom- | ah that's a book skill? |
| 01:48.09 | Nom- | Yeah the book skills are buff anyway |
| 01:49.13 | bleetah | Karrion: would you believe this guy is a member of 'The Outdoor Recreation Party' |
| 01:49.48 | Nom- | *hiss* |
| 01:49.53 | Karrion | ahahah, the guns and massive 4x4 party |
| 01:49.53 | Nom- | Us vampires don't like the light |
| 01:50.20 | bleetah | might have to sign him up to some dodgy sites |
| 01:50.34 | Corrodias | i sense you don't like guns |
| 01:50.43 | Corrodias | or large vehicles |
| 01:50.45 | bleetah | couldn't give a flying |
| 01:50.56 | Corrodias | i don't understand |
| 01:51.17 | bleetah | i don't like being spammed by idiots who harvest email addresses and leave their phone numbers on the email |
| 01:51.53 | Corrodias | i suppose i could believe he's a member of pretty much any party |
| 01:52.00 | Corrodias | they're all like that |
| 01:53.25 | Karrion | I don't like the ORP; guns and 4x4s are OK if you have a particular need for them |
| 01:55.06 | Corrodias | it's interesting that you've suggested that it's not "okay" to have a 4-wheel-drive vehicle unless you have a particular need for one |
| 01:55.13 | Corrodias | i'd like to know why you've done that |
| 01:57.47 | Karrion | I don't like big 4x4/SUV type vehicles in cities; they're big fuel consumers and pollutant emitters, and while the sturdy construction makes the occupants sightly safer, the high viewpoint and large mass/momentum makes people outside the vehicle less safe |
| 01:58.13 | Karrion | if you in a rural area, going camping, etc, they're great |
| 01:58.50 | Karrion | but you don't need one to drive to the shops in the suburbs |
| 01:58.52 | Corrodias | well said. |
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| 02:00.20 | Corrodias | well, it's not so much a soapbox if i asked you to explain |
| 02:00.29 | ag`_ | why am I watching this |
| 02:00.30 | ag`_ | saw |
| 02:00.31 | ag`_ | ugh |
| 02:04.23 | bleetah | we demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty |
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| 02:38.31 | Ktron | The superbowl is being played right now, right? |
| 02:41.47 | bleetah | that's some regional sports contest, yeah? |
| 02:43.20 | bleetah | damnit, the seppos are wising up... it was never this hard to get them all riled up in previous years :/ |
| 02:46.51 | bleetah | i mean, i can't get excited about a standard rugby match... much much harder to have any interest in a version of rugby played by what could best be described as.. softies |
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| 02:58.59 | Nom- | yay for ctprofiles :D |
| 03:05.16 | Nom- | http://ctprofiles.net/5032757 |
| 03:05.19 | Nom- | Just updated my Pally profile :D |
| 03:05.43 | Nom- | freakin love that sowrd |
| 03:05.47 | Nom- | *sword |
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| 03:20.04 | Nom- | Three cheers for Cairenn! |
| 03:20.15 | Cairenn | uh oh, what now? |
| 03:20.30 | Nom- | Can't we be happy to see you? |
| 03:20.47 | Cairenn | you can, but you'll also understand why I'll be worried about it ;) |
| 03:21.01 | Cairenn | so, Bears really fell apart, didn't they? |
| 03:21.28 | Nom- | I've no idea what you're talking about :) |
| 03:21.30 | bleetah | i think the only people here alive atm |
| 03:21.33 | bleetah | are the aussies |
| 03:21.37 | bleetah | who couldn't give a |
| 03:21.39 | bleetah | :-P |
| 03:22.02 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:22.43 | bleetah | Nom-: it's like rugby, but for sissies |
| 03:23.12 | Karrion | bleetah: So it's AFL then? (yeah, I went there) |
| 03:23.44 | Nom- | I was thinking Soccer. |
| 03:23.47 | Nom- | But *shrug* |
| 03:26.35 | bleetah | at least in AFL/Soccer/Rugby, the the team on the field isn't replaced when the ball starts going in the other direction. I mean, if the were real men they'd take off that padding and *turn round* then run in the other direction, like any sensible sportsman would. but nah, they've gotta get off the field and stuff... I just don't get it /shrug |
| 03:26.56 | bleetah | I'm guessing the inability to face the other direction has something to do with the amount of padding |
| 03:27.45 | bleetah | or maybe it's got something to do with having a football college degree and not studying that much, you forget which is forwards and backwards |
| 03:28.05 | Cairenn | bleetah: be nice |
| 03:28.11 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 03:28.54 | bleetah | Cairenn: that *IS* nice, for an Australian commentary on American Football :p |
| 03:32.25 | bleetah | Weather: HOBART, TAS at 05th 14:00 EDT: Temp 20.1°C, Humidity: 64%, Wind: SE at 26 km/hr with gusts of 37 km/hr. Atmospheric Pressure: 1010.8 hPa. Rain: 0.0 mm. Source: |
| 03:32.55 | Cairenn | bleetah, sweetie, dear, if I were you, I'd strongly suggest you hush |
| 03:33.35 | Cairenn | We are currently under an extreme weather warning for the next 24-36 hrs |
| 03:33.48 | Cairenn | it's going to be -40C here |
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| 03:34.38 | bleetah | mate of mine was working in Jakarta... he's a bit damp atm |
| 03:34.54 | bleetah | had three days left on his contract, he's a bit bummed out right now |
| 03:35.25 | Cairenn | oh? |
| 03:36.18 | Cairenn | ah, nm |
| 03:36.36 | Cairenn | yeah, not good at all |
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| 03:53.45 | Tain | I'm under an extreme inebriation warning for the next 30-60 minutes. It's going to be down a litre of 12 yr aged scotch in here. |
| 03:54.12 | Cairenn | uh oh ... celebrating your team winning, or mourning your team losing? |
| 03:54.44 | Tain | Ah I didn't care much about either, it was more a case of wanting one team to lose slightly more than the other. |
| 03:54.51 | Cairenn | ah |
| 03:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | posting under the influence is a bannable offense on a forum i go to :p |
| 03:58.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:58.11 | Tain | The only way I can handle reading the Blizzard forums is drunk. OF course I don't go there much anymore. |
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| 04:04.20 | Tem | Here's how I felt about the superbowl |
| 04:04.26 | Tem | The Saints weren't in it |
| 04:05.43 | Tain | It just reinforced to me why Peyton Manning will be in the conversations as the best quarterback of all time, and also why I dislike him so much. He has all that talent, and he's afraid to actually get in there in the dirt as a football player. |
| 04:06.15 | Tain | Watching him take steps backwards away from a fumble and point at it on the ground made me sick. |
| 04:07.11 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
| 04:07.23 | clad|sleep | night aqll |
| 04:07.53 | Tain | I heard a new joke today. |
| 04:07.58 | Tain | What kind of bees make milk? |
| 04:08.23 | Tain | Boobies! |
| 04:08.31 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:09.29 | Corrodias | time to try rebooting. WoW has gone nuts, dropping framerates to single digits and making the ground disappear. but it seems i'm far from being the only one with the problem. |
| 04:09.38 | Corrodias | why does there always have to be some horrible bug? :P |
| 04:13.57 | Cairenn | I have to admit, you guys have managed to surprise me |
| 04:14.12 | Tem | with? |
| 04:14.24 | Tem | boob jokes? |
| 04:14.28 | Cairenn | I honestly expected to get home and find mass conversation in here about the game |
| 04:14.35 | Cairenn | and ... nothing |
| 04:14.39 | Tem | I've got more if you're not satisfied |
| 04:14.40 | Cairenn | you've managed to surprise me |
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| 04:14.45 | Tain | Yes, we have no boobies. |
| 04:15.00 | Tem | Cairenn, see, that's the thing |
| 04:15.09 | Tem | the NFL is for 40-somethings who hate their wife |
| 04:15.21 | Cairenn | unh |
| 04:15.46 | Tem | I hope that wasn't at least half accurate for you |
| 04:15.52 | MageRooster | [20:09] <Corrodias> time to try rebooting. WoW has gone nuts, dropping framerates to single digits and making the ground disappear. but it seems i'm far from being the only one with the problem. <- Usually a problem with video drivers/DirectX in my experience. |
| 04:15.53 | Cairenn | then how do you explain my watching it? |
| 04:16.11 | Cairenn | or my Mom watching it? |
| 04:16.12 | Tem | do you /like/ football? |
| 04:16.19 | Cairenn | sometimes |
| 04:16.19 | Tain | uh.. I guess I hate other people's wives? |
| 04:16.37 | Cairenn | I don't watch much of it, but I usually watch the superb owl |
| 04:16.59 | Cairenn | mind you, Mom & I watch it to sit there and heckle, so ;) |
| 04:17.02 | Tem | I usually have the game on, but I don't pay it any attention |
| 04:17.11 | Tem | that's entirely different |
| 04:17.15 | Cairenn | throw popcorn at the screen on the dumb plays |
| 04:17.26 | Cairenn | and admire the tight pants ;) |
| 04:17.40 | Tem | I think those commercials of 4-5 guys sitting around with beer watching the game is completely a myth |
| 04:17.44 | Tem | I just don't think it exists |
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| 04:18.08 | Tain | Yeah, we had 2 guys and 4 women watching the game tonight. |
| 04:18.38 | Cairenn | myself, Mom & Dad all sitting there watching it over at their place |
| 04:18.48 | Corrodias | well, it's working so far... |
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| 04:19.23 | Corrodias | takes ages to load WoW after rebooting |
| 04:21.09 | Tem | hdd cache prolly |
| 04:22.43 | Corrodias | windows might even keep some files cached in memory for a while if it's not needed otherwise |
| 04:23.31 | Cairenn | bleetah: btw, point out to your mate that at least he's alive to *be* upset in the first place ... |
| 04:28.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not a big fan of football but i watched the whole game in HD |
| 04:28.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i kept yelling and attacking the floor with my coke bottle every time the bears screwed up a play |
| 04:29.01 | Tain | I went to my cousin's, they have a 40" HD LCD. And don't pay the $5 a month for a HD cable box. |
| 04:29.04 | Cairenn | your floor must be in bad shape right now then |
| 04:30.20 | Cairenn | because they really screwed up that game :p |
| 04:30.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | we don't have HD satellite service and get no cable service in the area |
| 04:30.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got it over the air |
| 04:30.51 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 04:30.53 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn |
| 04:30.59 | Cairenn | purl, hug JoshBorke |
| 04:31.00 | purl | ACTION hugs JoshBorke |
| 04:31.05 | Cairenn | hi JoshBorke :) |
| 04:31.11 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 04:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i picked the bears purely because bears (the animal) are awesome |
| 04:31.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | better than some lameass horses |
| 04:31.27 | Cairenn | ooooo |
| 04:32.12 | Tain | I think that is part of the Indy warmups, they prance around saying, "I'm a pretty pony!" |
| 04:33.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | da bears rawrbomb fans from the team helicopter |
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| 04:35.21 | AndrewFBlack | Hey there |
| 04:36.08 | Cairenn | hi |
| 04:36.45 | AndrewFBlack | Do you have to do something to addons to make them work on Macs some of my friends use macs and they said they can't get addons to work |
| 04:37.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | blah why do the forums bug out occasionally and not let me log in |
| 04:37.37 | Karrion | addons should work fine on macs, as long as they're installed in the right place |
| 04:37.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure all the addons are cross-platform, AndrewFBlack |
| 04:37.48 | Tem | then your friends are dumb |
| 04:37.50 | Tem | to be blunt |
| 04:37.52 | AndrewFBlack | Thats what I thought |
| 04:38.05 | Cairenn | if they aren't working, it's because they aren't installed properly |
| 04:38.15 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=install#faq_howto_install |
| 04:38.16 | AndrewFBlack | I'll let them know |
| 04:38.24 | Cairenn | give them that link |
| 04:38.27 | Tem | I smell directory-in-a-directory syndrome |
| 04:38.35 | Karrion | as long as they're installed properly in the World of Warcraft/Interface/Addons directory, they'll work |
| 04:38.37 | Cairenn | aye, 9 times out of 10 |
| 04:38.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe theres a smaller safe inside |
| 04:38.47 | Tain | 9 our of 10 dentists agree |
| 04:39.34 | AndrewFBlack | I will I also want to thank you guys for all your help the other day I got my first addon finished |
| 04:39.49 | Tain | Thanks! I'd like to take full credit. |
| 04:39.54 | Tain | What was it anyway? |
| 04:40.47 | Tem | lol tain |
| 04:43.08 | Cairenn | congrats :) |
| 04:46.40 | Corrodias | i believe WoWWiki needs a correction. please hold. |
| 04:47.14 | Corrodias | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mag'har -- This chain becomes available when you have completed all the mag'har quests, and are lvl 68. |
| 04:47.40 | Corrodias | you don't need to be level 68. at 67, i just got the first quest in that line, after completing two mag'har quests i missed before. |
| 04:48.09 | Corrodias | that would require effort on my part :o |
| 04:48.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | cair |
| 04:48.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | did you mean to type it "superb owl?" |
| 04:48.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | regardless i'm stealing that now |
| 04:48.47 | Cairenn | yeah, Tain did that earlier today and it amused me |
| 04:48.52 | Cairenn | so I stole it |
| 04:48.54 | Tain | The NFL was cracking down on people using the trademarked term, "Super Bowl" |
| 04:49.06 | Corrodias | dont mess with football |
| 04:49.11 | Tain | So a bar decided to instead advertise their, "Superb Owl Party!" |
| 04:49.45 | Tain | And as the guys in the Guiness commercials say... Brilliant! |
| 04:49.48 | Corrodias | it turns out that using trademarked terms to describe your stuff is not uncommon. |
| 04:50.10 | Cairenn | rofl, really?! |
| 04:50.27 | Corrodias | like totally |
| 04:50.34 | Cairenn | no wai! |
| 04:50.52 | Corrodias | yeah see this guy was all "yeah dude" and i was all "whoa" |
| 04:51.10 | Cairenn | hehehe |
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| 04:51.55 | Cairenn | zomg, it's a Kirkburn, hide! |
| 04:52.37 | Kirkburn | Itsa me, Kirkio! |
| 04:52.39 | Cairenn | purl, hug Kirkburn |
| 04:52.41 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Kirkburn and suddenly hugs Kirkburn tightly |
| 04:52.54 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 04:53.08 | JoshBorke | he'll never find me now |
| 04:53.20 | Kirkburn | Where'd he go? Where did he go? |
| 04:53.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | "This image has been enhanced using Adobe® Photoshop™ Image Enhancing Software" |
| 04:54.01 | Corrodias | We interrupt this chat to bring you late breaking news. A kirkfire has erupted at a WoW addons factory. There are no fatalities, but some employees have sustained minor kirkburns. |
| 04:54.03 | JoshBorke | i finially hit 68 |
| 04:54.39 | Kirkburn | I hit 68 too about 3 hours ago :D |
| 04:54.39 | Corrodias | 67 for me, today |
| 04:54.41 | Cairenn | grats |
| 04:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | 66 here |
| 04:54.51 | JoshBorke | grats guys :-D |
| 04:54.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm being incredibly lazy |
| 04:54.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 04:55.00 | Kirkburn | bleetah, ah the warming rays of the UV light :) |
| 04:55.01 | bleetah | shutup folks, I'm still at the AH debugging stuff.. or trying to hehe |
| 04:55.04 | JoshBorke | i still haven't run auchenai crypts |
| 04:55.22 | Corrodias | oh man. the only instance i've seen so far is the ramparts of hellfire citadel |
| 04:55.34 | Kirkburn | I haven't run Steamvault |
| 04:55.35 | Corrodias | instances are for dweebs. real men grind it out. |
| 04:55.57 | Kirkburn | Wait, what's the one after Underbog? |
| 04:56.03 | JoshBorke | mana tombs? |
| 04:56.12 | Kirkburn | Nah, in Coilfang |
| 04:56.13 | JoshBorke | hated that first boss, hated most of the instance actually |
| 04:56.17 | Tain | haha from iTunes tech support, about the issues people are having with playing songs they bought on Vista: |
| 04:56.18 | JoshBorke | oh, steamvault |
| 04:56.20 | Tain | "Apple recommends, however, that customers wait to upgrade Windows until after the next release of iTunes which will be available in the next few weeks." |
| 04:56.39 | Kirkburn | Yup, that's Apple for ya |
| 04:56.50 | Kirkburn | I hated Mana Tombs too |
| 04:56.52 | JoshBorke | night all |
| 04:56.54 | Tain | I don't know, nor care, whose fault it is. It's hilarious. |
| 04:56.57 | Kirkburn | G'night Josh |
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| 04:57.48 | Tain | Of course I've never bought anything through iTunes. I got a bunch of free songs from Pepsi caps, and I'm pretty sure I can't even play those since I downloaded them on another computer and never "authorized" this one. |
| 04:58.14 | bleetah | Bleeter recommends: Anyone installing Vista and expecting third party stuff to be working 100% already, deserves every data corruption they get |
| 04:58.35 | Tain | I can't agree with that even in jest. |
| 04:58.39 | Kirkburn | I disagree, Vista has been in beta for yeaaaaars |
| 04:59.03 | Tain | Things not working? Maybe. Data corruption? No justification for that. |
| 04:59.23 | Kirkburn | Besides, Apple have always been reluctant to cater for the majority =) |
| 04:59.34 | bleetah | Tain: it's more the expectation that everything will be 100% AOK. If they expect that, they have no sympathy from me |
| 05:00.00 | Tem|AFK | Quicktime just needs to fucking die |
| 05:00.00 | Tain | Customers should be able to expect that. |
| 05:00.05 | Corrodias | i, on the other hand, do sympathize with people who had expected their software to work right only to find out that it won't. |
| 05:00.08 | Tain | They can't, but they should be able to. |
| 05:00.17 | Corrodias | i see it as a horrible thing |
| 05:00.17 | Kirkburn | Tem|AFK, ah, a man after my own heart |
| 05:00.18 | Tem|AFK | did you know that you have to buy the full version to go full screen? |
| 05:00.30 | Tain | Yeah Tem, that burns my ass. |
| 05:00.30 | Tem|AFK | that's ludicrous |
| 05:00.35 | Corrodias | full version of what? |
| 05:00.52 | Tem|AFK | QT |
| 05:00.58 | Tem|AFK | ... wtf? |
| 05:01.01 | Corrodias | quicktime is a format, right? |
| 05:01.13 | bleetah | nah, it's like directx |
| 05:01.15 | bleetah | kinda |
| 05:01.34 | Tain | There are free QT decoders at least. |
| 05:01.38 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 05:01.43 | Corrodias | so the free codec or player (or both) refuse to let you resize the thing? haha |
| 05:01.48 | Tem|AFK | "The source file name(s) are larger than is supported by the file system. Try moving to a location which has a shorter path name, or try renaming to shorter name(s) before attempting this operation" |
| 05:01.59 | bleetah | or 'try installing VLC' |
| 05:02.06 | Tem|AFK | <3 vlc |
| 05:02.17 | Kirkburn | Or MPC :) |
| 05:02.21 | Tain | VLC and Media Player Classic and ffdshow for all your needs. |
| 05:02.23 | Cairenn | QT sucks, I wouldn't have it on my computer if it weren't for iTunes |
| 05:02.36 | Tem|AFK | I just got that error trying to extract eclipse to "C:\Program Files\Eclipse" |
| 05:02.55 | Tem|AFK | it's bitching about a file name runtime_registry_compatibilitysrc.zip" |
| 05:03.07 | bleetah | Amorak's a great player, pity it's so heavily tied to KDE/QT crap |
| 05:03.25 | Tem|AFK | here's hoping eclipse works without that file... |
| 05:03.31 | Thunder_Child | VLC & Zoom Player for me |
| 05:03.37 | Tain | It is sad, despite some peoples protestations, I like the way iTunes does music management. It has far too much other stuff in it perhaps, but it does some things really well. |
| 05:03.58 | Tem|AFK | yay, it crashes on startup |
| 05:04.07 | bleetah | Amorak's kinda like iTunes on steroids and growth hormones |
| 05:04.19 | Tem|AFK | ah, it chokes if not run as admin |
| 05:04.22 | Tem|AFK | how quaint |
| 05:04.33 | Tain | But the Apple Updater is constantly trying to get me to update to new versions, and then telling me it can't update becuase of file mis-matches. |
| 05:04.46 | Corrodias | i'm surprised to see so many people in outland without all the +mount speed stuff... |
| 05:04.52 | Tem|AFK | I HATE HATE HATE thenew version of iTunes |
| 05:05.23 | Tain | I do like foobar a lot, but it is such a pain in the ass to configure the interface. |
| 05:05.50 | Karrion | on my GF's machine the other day the apple updater brought up a "new version available" message. It _closed WoW_ (which was running fullscreen) to do it. |
| 05:06.17 | Corrodias | hahaha |
| 05:06.20 | Tem|AFK | also, the new media player is so un-usable for anything more than 3 files at a time it's unbelievable |
| 05:06.23 | Tain | Of course I am all for having the option to do it, it just grated on me the different things you had to do in order to configure foobar's interface. |
| 05:10.34 | Nom- | sif use iTunes |
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| 05:25.07 | Tain | "Rome's most enduring legacy? A numerical system that allowed future generations to easily keep track of Super Bowls." - Jon Stewart |
| 05:29.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:45.19 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:45.34 | Tain | Goodnight Cairenn. Sleep well. |
| 05:46.35 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn |
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| 05:58.55 | Tierrie | so err |
| 05:59.00 | Tierrie | don't install vista |
| 05:59.35 | Tain | Vista makes you impotent. I heard. |
| 05:59.51 | Tierrie | it did |
| 05:59.53 | Tierrie | very badly |
| 05:59.58 | bleetah | I heard installing Vista means you can contact Kirkburn on his cell and get him to do the user support |
| 06:00.03 | Tierrie | it wouldn't even fresh boot with a x-fi card |
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| 06:01.27 | Tierrie | and when I finally got it to boot and run WoW, it would only run for 5 minutes |
| 06:01.35 | Tierrie | then it would stall for 3 seconds, then let me play for 5 seconds |
| 06:01.38 | Tierrie | repeat ad infinum |
| 06:01.59 | bleetah | that's definately a kirkburn issue... 'coz like, you know.. it's all fonts! ;) :P |
| 06:02.37 | Tierrie | kirkburn is the god of fonts |
| 06:02.56 | Kirkburn | ^^ |
| 06:03.14 | bleetah | and as you've noticed, Vista has some fonts on it. Hence, all problems are due to Kirkburn |
| 06:03.37 | Kirkburn | Tierrie, how did you try to install it, and did you check compatibility? |
| 06:03.56 | bleetah | duuude, i was sooo joking. don't have to take me seriously :P |
| 06:04.32 | Tierrie | haha |
| 06:04.36 | Tierrie | yes I installed vista |
| 06:04.41 | Tierrie | and i got all the way to having it stable |
| 06:04.45 | Tierrie | butI disliked it |
| 06:10.06 | Tain | Wow this is pretty amazing. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070205.html |
| 06:16.29 | bleetah | nice find, tain |
| 06:25.16 | Tierrie | I'd like to play wow again |
| 06:31.15 | bleetah | 'nothing to replace (wow) with, 'cept liqour, beer and wine' |
| 06:32.52 | Nom- | sif wine |
| 06:33.14 | Nom- | wine is for chicks and old people |
| 06:33.26 | bleetah | you dissin' the rev horton heat? |
| 06:33.30 | bleetah | (and for cooking) |
| 06:33.39 | bleetah | (and scoring chicks in france) |
| 06:33.45 | Kirkburn|afk | You have to be sodding kidding me ... I died in Raven's Wood in Blade's Edge, resurrected in SYLVANAAR |
| 06:33.47 | bleetah | *cough* so I'm told, I wouldn't know |
| 06:34.01 | Nom- | sif for cooking |
| 06:34.05 | Nom- | You use beer for cooking |
| 06:34.22 | bleetah | I've hear tell there's some spot in outlands, where if you're horde and die, you'll get your spirit up in the barrens |
| 06:34.23 | Nom- | little bit of bear on the barbie before you put the steaks on makes it taste better |
| 06:34.40 | bleetah | koala bear burgers... chewy and tasty like eating a gumtree, but not too bad |
| 06:36.10 | bleetah | Nom-: or was that a typo? :-s |
| 06:37.21 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm still nowhere near why body :/ |
| 06:37.23 | Kirkburn|afk | arghargharghargh |
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| 06:39.02 | Kirkburn|afk | This time I'm soulstoning 'just in case' |
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| 06:44.22 | Nom- | Was meant to be beer, yes lol |
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| 07:00.44 | Kirkburn|afk | What would be really fun is to piss off my housemate by levelling again ^^ |
| 07:01.20 | Kirkburn|afk | He's already annoyed I'm way higher level than him |
| 07:02.54 | Corrodias | do it |
| 07:03.04 | Corrodias | and buy a flying mount and ride around in the air, all "haha haha" |
| 07:03.31 | vithos | i have a solution! i'll distract you with a font bug! |
| 07:03.53 | Corrodias | there are no font bugs, except of course for how clearfont shrinks my text :x |
| 07:04.02 | Kirkburn|afk | I have to stay well ahead of him since he's a druid |
| 07:04.25 | Corrodias | but rather than try to understand why or find a solution, i'll just continue to complain about it in a friendly sort of manner, just to amuse myself |
| 07:04.54 | vithos | my chatframe is definitely using a different font than everything else |
| 07:05.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Hello! If you called to leave a message about ClearFont, Kirkburn is sleeping right now. If you wish to give me money, Kirkburn is not sleeping right now. =) |
| 07:05.13 | Kirkburn|afk | vithos, odd |
| 07:05.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, uh ... it shouldn't |
| 07:05.43 | vithos | i think it's using calibri rather than what's selected |
| 07:06.14 | bleetah | unfortunately, it's gunna cost way mroe than that for him to fly here, so I'm screwed |
| 07:06.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh right, some parts of the UI require a reload to work |
| 07:06.29 | Corrodias | i tend to find that my chat frame uses what's selected, but fubar and such use the regular font. normally that would be absolutely okay! the thing is that fubar's font shrinks by about 10% when i enable clearfont, and kirk says it shouldn't do that. |
| 07:06.47 | Corrodias | we should hug, bleetah. |
| 07:06.49 | Corrodias | share the pain. |
| 07:07.00 | Kirkburn|afk | And I continually say - set the font size using Fubar's options! |
| 07:07.13 | bleetah | i don't use it, I'm just hassling kirkburn for no good reason.. and he knows it :) |
| 07:07.38 | Corrodias | it's not just fubar. even questfu's tracker has smaller text. there may be some text around which i didn't notice in those few minutes that i can't just scale up |
| 07:07.46 | vithos | Kirkburn|afk: actually it still does it after a full restart |
| 07:07.59 | Corrodias | i must delve into it and treat the disease, not just the symptoms |
| 07:08.02 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: you're not afk? :P |
| 07:08.08 | Corrodias | now is a pretty good time, actually. my dude is parked in an inn. |
| 07:08.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Agh, well |
| 07:08.19 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't know - it works for me :/ |
| 07:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've gotten so used to the default font and sizes :p |
| 07:09.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only font i'd like to change is the mail font thats in that old english script stuff |
| 07:09.54 | Corrodias | yes, those suck |
| 07:10.36 | Corrodias | hey! i told windows to remove the read-only flag from a bunch of files and the progress bar is actually moving backward. >:o |
| 07:12.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | god i hate unsolicited invites |
| 07:13.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | just freaking send me a tell asking "you want to go to x?" |
| 07:14.07 | Nom- | wow |
| 07:14.16 | Nom- | Discord Art makes for some SEXY UIs |
| 07:14.59 | bleetah | Mr_Rabies2+++ |
| 07:15.01 | bleetah | ++ |
| 07:15.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | did the discord guy release his updated stuff yet? |
| 07:16.16 | Nom- | Well, some peoples have 2.0 DART UIs |
| 07:16.21 | Nom- | So i'm guessing there's a functional version |
| 07:16.39 | Corrodias | i don't even know how to begin to determine why the font is changing on my fubar... |
| 07:16.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 07:16.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone ported them |
| 07:16.59 | Nom- | http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pallyui2rk1.jpg <-- i want to find those textures |
| 07:17.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're not very good though |
| 07:17.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | lozareth is being all emo |
| 07:17.38 | Nom- | Corrodias: Changing, how? |
| 07:17.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | his guild left him and he may or may not be done with discord entirely |
| 07:17.53 | bleetah | everyone hide! someone stole my coffee! |
| 07:20.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3/3 feral instinct :p |
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| 07:22.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just wish there was a mod similar to Groupbuttons out there |
| 07:22.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i havent found any yet |
| 07:23.53 | Nom- | I've no idea what GroupButtons did |
| 07:24.38 | Nom- | ah, just found it on ui.worldofwar |
| 07:24.52 | Nom- | That won't work with the 2.0 changes...at least some functions won't |
| 07:25.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only function that won't work is autoranking spells based on healing needed |
| 07:25.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | as far as i know |
| 07:26.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | but since lower rank heals have been nerfed anyway i don't care about |
| 07:26.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that |
| 07:27.13 | Nom- | changing the target of action buttons during combat won't work |
| 07:27.21 | Nom- | as far as i know |
| 07:28.06 | Nom- | any idea what is being used for the blessing/seal buttons in http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2vluxjd |
| 07:28.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | oooooh |
| 07:28.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6572 |
| 07:29.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | a friend of mine had that nom |
| 07:29.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | gah forgot what it's called |
| 07:29.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | it may be by the same guy as necrosis |
| 07:29.36 | Nom- | know any other textures sites? |
| 07:29.41 | Nom- | like wowtextures.com |
| 07:30.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | newp |
| 07:31.42 | Corrodias | hmph. calling GetFont on these frames just returns a table with [2]=0 and [3]="" |
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| 07:34.12 | Kemayo | Corrodias: QuestsFu's tracker counts as being part of FuBar, insofar as it uses the same Tablet library to display. |
| 07:34.24 | Nom- | Found it, it's called HolyHope |
| 07:34.39 | Corrodias | so if the scaling oddity is isolated to fubar and doesn't affect anything else, i could probably get away with just increasing fubar's font size |
| 07:35.17 | Saeris | Does string.gmatch create a new closure every time it's called? In other words, if you're going to be using it a lot, should you perform that sort of functionality with an incrementing normal string.match? |
| 07:35.48 | Kemayo | Or anything else that uses Tablet. |
| 07:36.09 | Corrodias | okay, that's good news |
| 07:39.53 | Nom- | So, anyone know of an official mod (ie. not a hacked up version) that does something similar to DART ? |
| 07:40.04 | Nom- | I'd like to play around with making something pretty for my UI :P |
| 07:42.03 | Corrodias | what's DART like? |
| 07:42.14 | Nom- | Discord Art |
| 07:42.25 | Corrodias | most of my art is nude photography |
| 07:43.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | of old men |
| 07:44.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | having some kind of party with lemons and stuff |
| 07:44.49 | Corrodias | man, i remember a time when i totally sent someone to that site |
| 07:44.53 | Corrodias | and he all freaked |
| 07:45.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was the greatest part of the superbowl: http://img.waffleimages.com/f5a86ae1c0a9ffe741c46101da872cdaa44746a1/prince.gif |
| 07:45.58 | Corrodias | hahahahah |
| 07:46.54 | Saeris | Awesome. |
| 07:50.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | giant 30 foot penis guitar solo |
| 07:50.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | only prince |
| 07:51.01 | bleetah | so it's totally out to show a nipple, but OK to have simulated masturbation? your country is mad. |
| 07:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm guessing it wasn't intentional |
| 07:51.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | or even noticed |
| 07:51.37 | bleetah | maybe janet jackson should've had a fake nipple, then it'd all be good |
| 07:51.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUi-StosGOY |
| 07:52.33 | bleetah | hmm, i wonder. those things are pretty heavily scripted, down to camera angles and all |
| 07:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's the last part of the show |
| 07:52.33 | bleetah | so it wouldn't take much, as an artist, to work out what to do ;) |
| 07:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but no one else could do that |
| 07:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | only prince |
| 07:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | because he's the man |
| 07:52.40 | Corrodias | the font on my xperl frames changes to what clearfont is using. hmm. |
| 07:53.01 | bleetah | zappa could've, 'cept he's dead.. kinda making it a bit difficult |
| 07:55.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a1AegGKjY0 |
| 07:55.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is why prince rocks |
| 07:56.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | Prince: "i'd like to answer some questions" Reporter: "Is it true tha-" Prince: *ROCKS OUT* |
| 07:58.04 | Corrodias | is he black? |
| 08:01.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 08:01.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's probably as close to jimi hendrix as this generation will see |
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| 08:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILDGkKqFLoI |
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| 08:22.20 | Nom- | So, besides Discord, what's a good mod for creating a blank spot at the bottom fo the page to put ui buttons and chat frames etc ? |
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| 08:23.30 | Nom- | *screen even |
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| 08:30.26 | Mobeater | is there anyway to use the ColorPickerFrame to set the color of text within a frame? |
| 08:32.06 | Corrodias | NO IDEA BUDDIES |
| 08:32.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Mr_Rabies2, v nice |
| 08:33.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | prince stole the show there, wow |
| 08:37.38 | Corrodias | http://fukung.net/images/1349/wow4twiw3ji1.gif |
| 08:42.04 | Gngsk | pwn |
| 08:44.17 | Nom- | Is there a / command you can use to get/set the ui scale ? |
| 08:46.46 | Gngsk | UIParent:GetScale() UIParent:SetScale() |
| 08:47.21 | Corrodias | well, /script them |
| 08:47.26 | Corrodias | and SetScale(float) |
| 08:55.22 | Nom- | I mean the global UI Scale :) |
| 09:03.57 | Corrodias | that's what that is |
| 09:04.07 | Corrodias | anything that inherits its scale from uiparent will adjust |
| 09:05.15 | Tem|AFK | are there any tools to tell you what codec a particular video was encoded with? |
| 09:05.15 | Corrodias | mine's set to 0.9 |
| 09:05.21 | Corrodias | Tem: gspot |
| 09:05.39 | Tem|AFK | thanks |
| 09:05.49 | Corrodias | damn -ow- |
| 09:06.05 | Corrodias | i just hurt myself with static again |
| 09:06.47 | Corrodias | fortunately, the secondary computer next to me has part of the case metal exposed, so i have an easy way to discharge it, but that time it went off while i was still a few millimeters away |
| 09:06.47 | Tem|AFK | looks like gspot just tells you if the codec is installed or not |
| 09:06.51 | Tem|AFK | I know it's not installed |
| 09:07.08 | Corrodias | it tells you what it is, too. :P |
| 09:08.02 | Corrodias | the whole "video" portion in the upper right |
| 09:08.38 | Corrodias | for whatever reason, ffdshow is not properly registered with my OS. media player classic uses it, but windows media player does not, and gspot doesn't see it. |
| 09:09.13 | Corrodias | well, maybe media player does. maybe it doesn't in some cases. i don't remember exactly... |
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| 09:09.27 | Tem|AFK | ffdshow was giving vista fits earlier |
| 09:09.30 | Tem|AFK | like, serious fits |
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| 09:12.23 | Tem | weird |
| 09:12.28 | Tem | it was a divx issue |
| 09:17.14 | Corrodias | HAHAH ahah |
| 09:17.16 | Corrodias | that divx |
| 09:17.20 | Corrodias | what a card |
| 09:17.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | ...laughing baby ringtone |
| 09:17.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | fantastic idea assholes >:| |
| 09:18.26 | Corrodias | what? i hate babies |
| 09:18.28 | Nom- | hmm simpleMiniMap is giving me errors :/ |
| 09:18.45 | Nom- | uncool |
| 09:21.18 | Corrodias | no u |
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| 09:35.44 | Nom- | *sigh* still can't find something to create a blank panel at the bottom of the screen |
| 09:36.49 | Nom- | CT_ViewPort would do the trick, but you can't texture it as far as i can tell |
| 09:37.47 | Tem|AFK | you oviously don't understand the point of ct_vp if you think you need to texture it |
| 09:38.03 | Tem|Sleep | I don't have patience for guys like you right now |
| 09:38.08 | Nom- | lol |
| 09:38.38 | Nom- | I do understand the point of it, it's just I want to create a spot at the bottom and texture it, which is why I don't think CT Viewport is what I want :) |
| 09:38.41 | bleetah | different points of view, I read it that he totally understands the point of it, and it was a comment about how close it is to doing what he wants but it won't due to it's nature.. but nm |
| 09:39.33 | bleetah | Nom-: you may just have to write one! :P |
| 09:40.50 | Nom- | I know they exist...there's heaps of mod complilations that do it |
| 09:40.52 | Corrodias | i don't have patience for you people who don't understand things |
| 09:40.55 | Corrodias | begone, knaves! |
| 09:41.00 | Nom- | I might have to try and download one and see what I can figure out |
| 09:41.39 | Corrodias | i totally don't understand the point of CT_ViewPort |
| 09:41.46 | Corrodias | anybody have patience for me |
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| 09:42.50 | bleetah | Nom-: make sure it's a mod designed for 'your type' of person |
| 09:43.48 | Corrodias | us types should have our own, separate, yet equal addon hosting sites |
| 09:44.16 | Nom- | heh |
| 09:44.26 | Nom- | I'm not using a premade |
| 09:44.40 | Nom- | I never will, but I'll try and find out what they're using to get the box at the bottom |
| 09:45.20 | Corrodias | knock it off, Nom, you're rocking the boat. go sit at the back of the game with the rest of us. the front seats are for them understandin' folk. |
| 09:45.55 | Nom- | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full6905.jpg there :P |
| 09:45.55 | Nom- | lol Corrodias |
| 09:46.11 | Nom- | That doesn't have much of a texture on it, but it does...it's not CTVP, afaik |
| 09:46.23 | Corrodias | aww... i don't know nuthin' 'bout configyerin' no You Eyes. |
| 09:47.12 | Corrodias | i can see the problem from here. the user apparently rolled an alliance character. i know, it's a common ailment, but there is a cure. |
| 09:47.21 | bleetah | death |
| 09:47.33 | Corrodias | closest thing, deletion |
| 09:48.03 | Corrodias | it looks like he just has an addon that added a big black bar to the bottom of the screen |
| 09:48.47 | Corrodias | hmm... but it may have moved the ... what do you call that, the viewport? |
| 09:49.07 | Nom- | Except ViewPort would be plain black |
| 09:49.10 | Nom- | It's not |
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| 09:51.10 | Corrodias | no, i mean, maybe it has moved the world view thing upward, resized it, you know? so it's centered above the bar? |
| 09:51.14 | Corrodias | and then another addon has put that bar below it |
| 09:51.22 | Corrodias | if that's even possible |
| 09:51.33 | bleetah | nah, the world view is behind that big black bar |
| 09:51.49 | Blucid | Hello everyone. |
| 09:51.53 | bleetah | you can see it peeking thru, particularly over the left near the minimap |
| 09:51.56 | Nom- | founds it |
| 09:51.58 | bleetah | there's a box or something on the ground |
| 09:52.01 | Blucid | I have a question about clearfont |
| 09:52.13 | Nom- | It's a mod called Skinner |
| 09:53.06 | Blucid | can anyone help me with clearfont? |
| 09:53.24 | Corrodias | there is no clearfont |
| 09:54.44 | Blucid | what do u mean there is no clearfont |
| 09:55.10 | Corrodias | it's all in your mind |
| 09:55.16 | Corrodias | and i can't find any addon named Skinner |
| 09:55.38 | Corrodias | -and- my UPS keeps turning on and off its AVR Trim feature, used to reduce line voltage that has gotten too high |
| 09:56.12 | Corrodias | so i'm thinking, "why has my power started getting too strong in the last half hour?" |
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| 10:08.47 | Nom- | There is a mod called Skinner lol |
| 10:09.04 | Nom- | And you, Corrodias. You need to stop responding to people. |
| 10:09.24 | Corrodias | maybe i do |
| 10:09.26 | Corrodias | but i'm upset now |
| 10:09.49 | Nom- | Go have a coffee, or a beer |
| 10:09.56 | Nom- | Or a coffee with beer |
| 10:10.38 | Corrodias | or kick your ass so hard it becomes your new arms! |
| 10:10.57 | Nom- | If you can find me... |
| 10:11.06 | bleetah | indeed |
| 10:11.13 | bleetah | western australia is an awfully big place |
| 10:11.32 | bleetah | they've got famrs out that way that dwarf texas |
| 10:11.36 | bleetah | *farms |
| 10:12.03 | bleetah | mind you, they've also got a bloody large amount of sand |
| 10:12.48 | bleetah | which continues the fine aussie tradition of naming things in a bleeding obvious manner... 'great barrier reef'... it's big, it's a barrier and a reef |
| 10:12.56 | bleetah | wave rock... it looks like a wave, made of rock |
| 10:13.09 | bleetah | and the great sandy desert... it's huuge, it's sandy, and a desert |
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| 10:26.38 | Wobin | well |
| 10:26.43 | Wobin | I think it's nice and logical |
| 10:26.48 | Wobin | You know what you're getting |
| 10:26.56 | Wobin | like Wagga Wagga |
| 10:27.04 | Wobin | and Woolomooloo |
| 10:27.05 | Corrodias | okay, it's about time for me to sleep, now |
| 10:27.14 | bleetah | Rooty Hill |
| 10:27.17 | Wobin | Totally |
| 10:27.37 | Wobin | Warawee |
| 10:27.39 | Wobin | Wahroonga |
| 10:27.47 | bleetah | Doo Town |
| 10:28.09 | Corrodias | 'ni. i hope my electrical outlet's voltage doesn't keep getting too high like it apparently is |
| 10:28.59 | bleetah | I guess we'll know before you ;) |
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| 11:32.04 | mitch0 | 'lo |
| 11:32.27 | mitch0 | does anyone know if SpellHasRange() returns the actual range of the spell also, or just a boolean? |
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| 12:45.18 | [dRaCo] | is there a way to specify the target (main hand/off hand) of windfury/rockbiter/...? |
| 13:01.07 | [Wobin] | um |
| 13:01.13 | [Wobin] | don't you cast it on a specific weapon? |
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| 13:01.22 | [Wobin] | like a poison/sharpeningstone |
| 13:01.53 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 13:02.07 | [dRaCo] | blizz has implemented some auto targeting |
| 13:02.25 | [dRaCo] | which is useful when there are no buffs on the weapon |
| 13:02.28 | [Wobin] | bizzare |
| 13:02.33 | [dRaCo] | but sucks when you want to change them |
| 13:02.56 | axxo | more likely some addon has implemented auto targeting |
| 13:02.56 | axxo | ;x |
| 13:02.59 | sancus | there must be some way |
| 13:03.10 | sancus | because it's common practice to use seperate ranks of wf on your mh/oh |
| 13:03.25 | [dRaCo] | no problem to do that |
| 13:03.35 | [Wobin] | They don't overwrite, do they? |
| 13:03.40 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 13:03.48 | [Wobin] | so if you cast both ranks it goes on both weapons, one after the other |
| 13:03.53 | [dRaCo] | exactly |
| 13:03.59 | zenzelezz | [dRaCo]: do you mean in a macro? |
| 13:04.02 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 13:04.09 | [Wobin] | oh you can aim in a macro |
| 13:04.14 | [Wobin] | I'm fairly sure |
| 13:04.15 | zenzelezz | I think it's /cast Whateveritis /use itemslot |
| 13:04.27 | zenzelezz | can't remember items slot for MH/OH |
| 13:04.39 | [dRaCo] | hm, I'll try that, thanks |
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| 13:05.02 | [dRaCo] | 16/17 ;) |
| 13:11.56 | [dRaCo] | hm, /cast wf /use slotid doesnt work |
| 13:16.19 | [dRaCo] | hm |
| 13:16.37 | [dRaCo] | is there a macro command to cancel a buff? |
| 13:16.49 | [Wobin] | not afaik =\ |
| 13:17.20 | [dRaCo] | there's /cancelaura name |
| 13:17.21 | [Wobin] | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro |
| 13:17.28 | [Wobin] | oh well there you go =) |
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| 13:17.32 | [dRaCo] | but that's not good enough |
| 13:17.50 | [dRaCo] | if both weapons have got the same buff, which one does it cancel? |
| 13:24.21 | [dRaCo] | /cancelaura Windfury 5 does... nothing |
| 13:26.10 | Arrowmaster | you dont supply a rank with cancelaura |
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| 13:28.20 | [dRaCo] | /cancelaura Windfury doesnt work, neither |
| 13:32.06 | sancus | well wf isnt a buff |
| 13:32.12 | sancus | so cancelling it prob isnt going to work! |
| 13:32.43 | sancus | can't cancel aura weapon oils and shit either |
| 13:36.52 | [dRaCo] | is there a way to cancel these things? |
| 13:42.55 | sancus | not afaik |
| 13:50.29 | Cide | you can cancel weapon buffs now |
| 13:50.51 | sancus | with what? |
| 13:50.58 | Cide | no idea what the function call is |
| 13:51.04 | Cide | but right-clicking the icon does it in the interface |
| 13:53.52 | [Wobin] | oh wow |
| 13:53.53 | [Wobin] | nice |
| 14:03.02 | kaso | CancelItemTempEnchantment([1 or 2]) |
| 14:03.28 | kaso | i guess it doesnt work with cancelaura yet, but that isnt a protected func so you can call in macro if you wish |
| 14:03.36 | [dRaCo] | great |
| 14:03.38 | [dRaCo] | thanks :D |
| 14:03.50 | [dRaCo] | 1 is for main hand and 2 for off hand, I guess |
| 14:03.54 | kaso | yes |
| 14:04.08 | kaso | you'll have to use /script or /run you know right? |
| 14:04.26 | [dRaCo] | yeah, but thanks |
| 14:04.30 | kaso | np |
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| 14:19.36 | kaso | ~seen Mike-N-Go |
| 14:19.56 | purl | mike-n-go <n=mjgoosse@64.193.93.197> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 8h 33m 31s ago, saying: 'I saw something about it, but don't know enough to get it..'. |
| 14:21.22 | [dRaCo] | hm |
| 14:21.39 | [dRaCo] | /script doesnt take modifiers, does it? |
| 14:22.36 | kaso | i assume this is to do with canceling your WF |
| 14:22.40 | [dRaCo] | yes |
| 14:22.51 | kaso | it doesnt take modifiers but you can use some coding to have the same effect |
| 14:22.55 | kaso | what do you want to do |
| 14:23.13 | [dRaCo] | I was trying to cancel main hand on clicking and cancel off hand on right clicking |
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| 14:25.30 | kaso | ok, gimme a mo |
| 14:27.40 | [dRaCo] | just searching the API for something like isRightClick() |
| 14:29.31 | kaso | there isnt one |
| 14:29.36 | kaso | but ive had a good idea :> |
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| 14:30.33 | kaso | arg |
| 14:30.39 | kaso | maybe not |
| 14:31.28 | kaso | actually... |
| 14:31.28 | [dRaCo] | there's GetMouseButtonClicked() |
| 14:31.28 | [dRaCo] | but it isnt documented :/ |
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| 14:33.04 | Throgan | someone here knowing how to code command handling in addons? |
| 14:33.32 | kaso | I believe theres a HOWTO about it on wowwiki throgan |
| 14:34.07 | kaso | [dRaCo] my cool idea was to "borrow" the default parser for modifiers and use em for a new slash command, but that isnt gonna work so easily |
| 14:34.26 | [dRaCo] | sounds like it needs more than 255 chars ;) |
| 14:34.38 | Throgan | i know that there is this howto, but i dont understand it. |
| 14:34.41 | [dRaCo] | I tried /script if GetMouseButtonClicked() == 1 then CancelItemTempEnchantment(1); else CancelItemTempEnchantment(2); end |
| 14:34.54 | [dRaCo] | but that doesnt work, neither |
| 14:34.58 | kaso | GetMouseButtonClicked will return "RightButton" or "LeftButton" |
| 14:35.07 | [dRaCo] | oh, ok |
| 14:35.15 | kaso | Throgan what exactly dont you understand |
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| 14:35.29 | Throgan | wait a sec |
| 14:35.33 | [dRaCo] | hehe |
| 14:35.38 | [dRaCo] | that one kinda works |
| 14:35.54 | [dRaCo] | except for it being too slow o0 |
| 14:35.59 | kaso | slow? |
| 14:36.13 | kaso | whatcha doing? |
| 14:36.29 | [dRaCo] | argh, nothing, everything's cool |
| 14:36.37 | [dRaCo] | works :D |
| 14:36.41 | [dRaCo] | thank you |
| 14:36.46 | kaso | no problem |
| 14:37.32 | Throgan | there are two different examples for the OnLoad function. where is the difference? |
| 14:38.15 | Throgan | and which order do i have to have in the code? |
| 14:38.36 | Throgan | first: OnLoad then: EventHandler |
| 14:38.41 | Throgan | isn't it? |
| 14:39.54 | kaso | All you need for a slash command is 1) a handler function defined 2) SlashCmdList["ADDONNAME"]=[that function] 3) SLASH_ADDONNAME1 = "/slash1" |
| 14:40.13 | kaso | the last two doesnt matter the order, but the handler function needs to be defined before you do 2) |
| 14:40.51 | Throgan | so i just put the handler to the top and it should work. alright. i'll try. thx! |
| 14:44.05 | Throgan | its still not working. i put the handler right at the top |
| 14:44.20 | kaso | http://pastey.net |
| 14:44.24 | kaso | show me your code |
| 14:44.33 | [dRaCo] | ... it lags. cancelling the buff lags so when the spell is cast, both weapons still got their buff :/ |
| 14:44.33 | Throgan | kk |
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| 14:47.55 | Throgan | heres the link: my pastebin is 6024 |
| 14:50.10 | kaso | that should work fine, are you sure that call RegTracker_OnLoad(); or initialize() somewhere? is it in your frame's OnLoad handler in XML? |
| 14:50.17 | drc|away | *hates blizz for making scripting useful things that hard* |
| 14:51.51 | Throgan | yes it is. |
| 14:52.04 | Throgan | i'll try something else. thx |
| 14:52.42 | kaso | only other thing i could think of is that your slash command is being over-written by another anddon |
| 14:53.37 | Throgan | there is no other addon being loaded. |
| 14:54.31 | Throgan | other question: when i load the addon it tells me that a function i have which does not expect a passed value is being called with nil |
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| 14:58.55 | JoshBorke | what's the exact message? |
| 15:00.29 | Throgan | it tells me tried to call a global "RegTracker_OnLoad() (a nul value) |
| 15:00.53 | Throgan | attempt to call |
| 15:01.07 | Throgan | and it is nil |
| 15:01.10 | Throgan | ... |
| 15:01.12 | JoshBorke | that means RegTracker_OnLoad does not exist |
| 15:01.23 | Throgan | well it does exist. |
| 15:02.01 | JoshBorke | well, for some reason it doesn't when you load the addon |
| 15:02.05 | JoshBorke | look at FrameXML.log |
| 15:02.12 | JoshBorke | i'm just telling you what that means. |
| 15:02.22 | Throgan | where do i find the file? |
| 15:04.13 | JoshBorke | your WoW Folder then the Logs folder |
| 15:04.15 | Throgan | got it. but there is no info about |
| 15:05.45 | JoshBorke | are you actually loading the lua file with the function defined in it? |
| 15:06.06 | JoshBorke | using a mod like DevTools, are you able to /dump RegTracker_OnLoad ? |
| 15:07.00 | Throgan | it loads the lua file. there is a different error with a OnClick-error |
| 15:07.28 | Throgan | how can i dump it? |
| 15:08.17 | JoshBorke | ~devtools |
| 15:08.19 | purl | i guess devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta |
| 15:08.21 | JoshBorke | ~bugsack |
| 15:08.25 | JoshBorke | ~ief |
| 15:08.34 | JoshBorke | gotta go, bye all |
| 15:08.39 | Throgan | thx |
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| 15:13.52 | Throgan | what does this dump action tell? and what should it do. |
| 15:13.54 | MJM-Muhis | Hi! I think this is right place.. :) |
| 15:14.09 | MJM-Muhis | Where I can download Ace 2? :) |
| 15:14.16 | MJM-Muhis | can't find it anywhere |
| 15:14.19 | Throgan | curse-gaming.com |
| 15:14.23 | Throgan | should be |
| 15:14.49 | MJM-Muhis | i check again, then |
| 15:15.00 | Throgan | yes there it is |
| 15:15.28 | sysrage | wowace.com |
| 15:15.31 | MJM-Muhis | is it this one? "Ace(2) of Spades UI" |
| 15:15.59 | sysrage | wowace.com will always have the latest.. and all the addons that use it |
| 15:16.49 | MJM-Muhis | k, i searched from wowace.com but couldn't find download section =/ |
| 15:17.17 | drin | www.wowace.com/files |
| 15:17.27 | Throgan | click ace2 on the right side |
| 15:17.29 | sysrage | there's a link on the left. i think it says "Addons (beta)" or soemthin |
| 15:17.45 | sysrage | or what they said |
| 15:17.56 | MJM-Muhis | wehee! thanks mate |
| 15:18.22 | Throgan | what does the output of /dump tell me? |
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| 15:19.21 | MJM-Muhis | thanks all, I think i can do the rest :) bye |
| 15:19.28 | Throgan | bye |
| 15:20.52 | Throgan | anyone here who can help me? |
| 15:39.59 | Throgan | now someone here? |
| 15:41.16 | Throgan | why are you guys in the chat when your not replying? where is the sense in that???just quit if you do not want to write something... |
| 15:41.52 | sysrage | hah |
| 15:41.59 | sysrage | somebody needs to learn how irc works |
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| 16:03.34 | kaso | Thats quite amusing |
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| 16:35.48 | Industrial | haha |
| 16:36.03 | Industrial | its the AOL generation |
| 16:36.13 | Industrial | run! run while you can! |
| 16:36.18 | Industrial | guess we cant run :( |
| 16:38.54 | Industrial | You know what must feel really bad? Having to program "light" and "pro" and "advanced" versions and/or settings for software. |
| 16:40.45 | Industrial | Mr. T pities the fool. |
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| 18:01.46 | kaso | it sucks when you release it took you more time to write a regex expression to do some replacement in your code, than it would have to do the replacements manually |
| 18:03.21 | zenzelezz | that's my experience with regexes also |
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| 18:26.54 | Hallu2 | lol |
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| 18:37.54 | Shadowed | kaso: Did you ever succesfully modify the health bars above players in any way? i'm pretty sure you can't hijack them and change the values |
| 18:38.35 | kaso | i never really tried to play with them persay, i just attached my own frames to them. |
| 18:38.45 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 18:38.57 | kaso | You should be able to alter them like any other UI element, but you'd need to refresh your changes each OnUpdate |
| 18:39.02 | Shadowed | You can't |
| 18:39.07 | kaso | what happens? |
| 18:39.10 | Shadowed | nothing |
| 18:39.20 | kaso | hmm |
| 18:39.27 | kaso | they could be protected nowadays |
| 18:39.35 | Shadowed | it should error then tho |
| 18:39.46 | Shadowed | I can modify the names, I can hide the bar but i can't change the value or color. My guess is that it's first processing the stuff in LUA and then the health bars |
| 18:39.51 | kaso | i know at least ive resized, and done alpha on them |
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| 18:40.12 | Wes | Can anyone tell me where to find the Blizzard UI files? |
| 18:40.19 | kaso | ~interface extractor |
| 18:40.25 | Grem | Err, not that |
| 18:40.26 | kaso | thats the purl-keyword right? |
| 18:40.28 | Grem | I mean, that one page |
| 18:40.31 | Shadowed | ~interfaceextractor |
| 18:40.36 | kaso | oh, wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 18:40.39 | Grem | Right! |
| 18:40.40 | Shadowed | ~slap |
| 18:40.41 | Grem | Thanks a bunch man |
| 18:40.47 | kaso | ~interface tool |
| 18:40.54 | kaso | ~blizzard interface tool |
| 18:40.59 | kaso | somehting like that :< |
| 18:41.24 | kaso | does purl have a search tool? |
| 18:41.46 | Shadowed | ~inter* |
| 18:42.11 | kaso | ~interface kit |
| 18:42.22 | kaso | ~addon kit |
| 18:42.36 | kaso | ~interface addon kit |
| 18:42.41 | kaso | :< im out of ideas |
| 18:42.46 | Shadowed | ~botslap |
| 18:42.47 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, shadowed! |
| 18:42.58 | kaso | Im sure its in there somewhere |
| 18:43.11 | [dRaCo] | purl, find interface |
| 18:43.23 | [dRaCo] | hm, ne |
| 18:43.33 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 18:43.35 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 18:43.39 | kaso | aaaah! |
| 18:43.42 | Arrowmaster | =) |
| 18:43.43 | kaso | haha |
| 18:43.55 | Shadowed | hrmm |
| 18:43.59 | [dRaCo] | purl, search interface |
| 18:44.09 | Shadowed | Thats very weird |
| 18:44.15 | Shadowed | Oh aha |
| 18:44.18 | kaso | whats that shadowed? |
| 18:44.45 | Shadowed | I was looping through all of them and running a hide, was trying to figure out why one of the bars wouldn't hide. Realised it was because there was two mobs with the same name |
| 18:45.32 | kaso | not quite what we wanted purl |
| 18:45.51 | [dRaCo] | purl, you are stupid. |
| 18:45.52 | purl | [dRaCo]: what are you talking about? |
| 18:46.14 | [dRaCo] | that's exactly what I am talking about, purl. |
| 18:46.17 | kaso | Shadowed so theres no problem, they havent nurfed nameplates? |
| 18:46.42 | Shadowed | no that was just a test to see if the code was working, still testing status bars, sec |
| 18:46.49 | kaso | ok |
| 18:46.55 | Shadowed | i highly doubt they would have nerfed name plates, as far as i know no addon has really used them |
| 18:47.12 | kaso | remeber, alot of there stuff is reset each and every update, so you have to have a constant onupdate |
| 18:47.24 | Shadowed | yeah thats what i'm testing it with |
| 18:47.43 | kaso | in 2.0 they nurfed the :Click() function of the nameplates, before you could use that to target |
| 18:48.15 | Shadowed | they nerfed Click() in everything although, since you were able to use that on action bars still |
| 18:48.48 | kaso | yah, true i guess. |
| 18:49.49 | kaso | i need to get my Speach Bubble itemlink fixer working for 2.0 actually |
| 18:50.03 | kaso | that was the most pointless yet awesome addon ever |
| 18:50.13 | Shadowed | did it let you click item links in chat bubbles? |
| 18:50.30 | kaso | nono, that would be far too useful |
| 18:50.36 | Shadowed | haha |
| 18:50.44 | kaso | do you remeber when chat bubbkles first came in |
| 18:51.08 | Shadowed | no :p |
| 18:51.25 | kaso | umm well, if you linked an item it would appear correctly purple or blue or whatver in the bubble, then a couple patches after they removed it so its all the same color. My addon reverts that |
| 18:51.33 | Shadowed | ahh nice |
| 18:51.57 | kaso | I just felt that because i could do stuff to the bubbles, i had to do something :> |
| 18:52.03 | Shadowed | hrm |
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| 18:52.24 | Shadowed | So I can still call Hide() on the StatusBars, but doing SetBackdropColor( 1, 0, 0, 0.5 ) keeps them at full alpha and green |
| 18:52.54 | Shadowed | unless health bars are a texture |
| 18:53.14 | kaso | what happens if you do SetBackdropColor( 1, 0, 0, 0.5 ) then DevTools_Dump(GetBackDropColor) right after? |
| 18:54.05 | Shadowed | val:SetBackdropColor( 1, 0, 0, 0.5 ); DevTools_Dump( { val:GetBackdropColor() } ); |
| 18:54.06 | Shadowed | empty result |
| 18:54.46 | Shadowed | bah, damn mIRC |
| 18:54.55 | Shadowed | put the text box on the right side and now i can't figure out how to get it back |
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| 18:55.49 | kaso | How is GetBackdropColor empty ^_- |
| 18:56.26 | Shadowed | Well, for one I should be using Statusbar color....because status bars probably want that :p |
| 18:57.11 | Shadowed | i'm stupid, that did it |
| 18:58.51 | Shadowed | Could actually probably make a fun mod that just modifies these |
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| 19:08.54 | Shadowed | Although this is something that doesn't make sense, is there some restriction to anonymous frames that makes it so you can't store them in a table? |
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| 19:10.55 | Shadowed | For some reason, making a table that stores the status bar, then looping through it later doesn't let you change the status bar color. but doing it directly from the loop does |
| 19:11.08 | Shadowed | ...yet if you set a value in the from before it's added to the table you can see the value when looping through it later |
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| 19:12.04 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
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| 19:13.08 | Shadowed | how odd, can't modify the frame at all in the later loop |
| 19:13.49 | kaso | hmm very odd shadowed |
| 19:14.24 | kaso | i cant see what would cause that, other than the fact that the frames can change who they belong to so storing isnt great (which you discounted) i dont know |
| 19:15.38 | Shadowed | It's not calling it at a later point really, or at least anything it could update. It's running through them all/storing it, and then calling the function to set all the bars up |
| 19:15.57 | Shadowed | but yes, i'm pretty sure I was doing that at around 4 AM which would explain why I don't know why i did it |
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| 19:16.36 | DustyZ28 | im thinkin of bein a lock....whats the best race |
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| 19:16.55 | Shadowed | gnome if you want to make melee hate you, human if you want to make rogues and durids hate you |
| 19:17.03 | Shadowed | druids too |
| 19:17.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | durids works |
| 19:17.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially if you're a follower of alamo |
| 19:18.02 | DustyZ28 | lol thanks....i thank humans look so retarded |
| 19:18.27 | DustyZ28 | look at there nose |
| 19:19.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay everyone i decree that on this day |
| 19:19.33 | DustyZ28 | sux the Draenei cant be a lock |
| 19:19.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | Night elves will be henceforth referred to as "Crip Elves" to further distinguish them from the Blood Elves |
| 19:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | if draenei were locks, they'd be eredar :p |
| 19:20.15 | Shadowed | kaso: I'm just stupid, you can modify everything in status bars fine, including the min/max and value |
| 19:20.37 | kaso | cool |
| 19:21.00 | DustyZ28 | Crip Elves HAHAHA |
| 19:21.10 | DustyZ28 | Bloods vs. Crips |
| 19:22.55 | Shadowed | Now for the fun part, figuring out how to uniquely identify a mob using name, level and health |
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| 19:28.31 | VinteKilo | sup |
| 19:29.13 | TC_Working | moo |
| 19:29.16 | VinteKilo | it`s not a chat channel? |
| 19:29.21 | VinteKilo | where`s the chat lol |
| 19:29.38 | Shadowed | ...you waited 40 seconds before saying that |
| 19:29.46 | VinteKilo | yeah |
| 19:29.59 | Shadowed | well you see |
| 19:30.07 | VinteKilo | =D |
| 19:30.10 | Shadowed | people sometimes take time to respond orrrr are busy |
| 19:30.27 | VinteKilo | i dont play for like 20 hours |
| 19:30.35 | VinteKilo | i ill be crazy |
| 19:31.20 | VinteKilo | who`s here like more make gold than raise lvls |
| 19:31.35 | TC_Working | anyone at 70... |
| 19:31.55 | VinteKilo | im playing by 2 weeks |
| 19:32.01 | VinteKilo | and im 63 |
| 19:32.05 | VinteKilo | i cant leave AH |
| 19:32.07 | VinteKilo | lol |
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| 19:32.41 | VinteKilo | anyone here from gurubashi? |
| 19:33.10 | VinteKilo | shadowmoon maybe? |
| 19:34.06 | VinteKilo | oh well |
| 19:34.37 | VinteKilo | anyone here is mage>? |
| 19:34.39 | Hallu2 | I have a 70 |
| 19:34.41 | Hallu2 | mage |
| 19:34.43 | Hallu2 | undead |
| 19:34.44 | Hallu2 | hi! |
| 19:34.47 | VinteKilo | good =D |
| 19:34.55 | VinteKilo | frost or fire? |
| 19:35.00 | Hallu2 | fire |
| 19:35.03 | Hallu2 | 10/48/3 |
| 19:35.16 | sysrage | <3 frost |
| 19:35.16 | VinteKilo | nice u like PvP or PvE |
| 19:35.17 | VinteKilo | ? |
| 19:35.22 | Hallu2 | both! |
| 19:35.26 | Hallu2 | I love both! |
| 19:35.27 | VinteKilo | frost for PvE own |
| 19:35.28 | VinteKilo | 12,00=01P |
| 19:35.35 | Hallu2 | Fire is still awesome |
| 19:35.37 | VinteKilo | i love PvE |
| 19:35.38 | VinteKilo | hehehe |
| 19:35.47 | VinteKilo | control is everything |
| 19:35.53 | VinteKilo | icelance FTW |
| 19:35.54 | Hallu2 | I've played a lot of frost as well |
| 19:36.05 | Hallu2 | Dragon's Breath is really nice control |
| 19:36.14 | VinteKilo | 20 sec CD |
| 19:36.15 | VinteKilo | =X |
| 19:36.27 | Hallu2 | that's nothing in the grand scheme of things |
| 19:36.31 | sysrage | icelance does kick serious butt |
| 19:36.38 | VinteKilo | yeah |
| 19:36.57 | VinteKilo | man u got 15% on ice spell to froze and ice 3 times |
| 19:36.57 | Shadowed | Only because it's incredibly unbalanced in PVP if you're frost sysrage |
| 19:37.20 | Hallu2 | but usually frost mages don't give me much of a problem |
| 19:37.32 | VinteKilo | frost x fire |
| 19:37.37 | VinteKilo | fire win anytime |
| 19:37.38 | VinteKilo | lol |
| 19:37.39 | Shadowed | not really |
| 19:37.40 | sysrage | unbalanced how? |
| 19:37.44 | VinteKilo | alot instantr |
| 19:37.46 | Shadowed | shatter |
| 19:38.01 | Shadowed | frost mages can crit for around 1.5k-2.k depending on gear with an instant cast |
| 19:38.09 | VinteKilo | yeah |
| 19:38.21 | Hallu2 | hehe |
| 19:38.28 | sysrage | but we have to use nova to do that. nova is not a super short cooldown |
| 19:38.30 | VinteKilo | i am 63 with dman crap green gear and do 2.3k in frostbolt |
| 19:38.35 | Shadowed | no you don't |
| 19:38.41 | Hallu2 | Dragon's breath crits for 1.2k normally |
| 19:38.47 | Hallu2 | maybe more |
| 19:38.48 | VinteKilo | yea i do |
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| 19:38.51 | sysrage | either nova or frostbite. yes you do |
| 19:38.55 | VinteKilo | meet me ingame and i ill show u |
| 19:38.57 | VinteKilo | 12,00=01P |
| 19:38.58 | sysrage | icelance without being frozen = 200 damage |
| 19:38.58 | Shadowed | exactly, frost bite |
| 19:39.09 | sysrage | frost bite is not 100% |
| 19:39.19 | Hallu2 | but a mage can just blink out of that |
| 19:39.29 | sysrage | almost all classes have a way to get out of it |
| 19:39.34 | kaso | is [^%[] correct for not [ |
| 19:39.34 | Shadowed | well I hate to break it to you, but there are more classes then mages :p |
| 19:39.50 | sysrage | what do you play? |
| 19:39.55 | Shadowed | warrior, priest, rogue |
| 19:40.02 | Hallu2 | I also have a 60 hunter! Almost 61! |
| 19:40.03 | Hallu2 | hehe |
| 19:40.38 | Shadowed | Having a 20ish second frost nova is enough in pvp, and getting someone rooted also isn't very hard |
| 19:40.39 | Hallu2 | 3k gold to go for the epic flying mount =P man, what a grind |
| 19:40.51 | Shadowed | but pvp in general is unbalanced to the point of stupidity no matter what anyone tells you |
| 19:40.58 | sysrage | stunlocking a mage isn't very hard either |
| 19:41.19 | Hallu2 | well, "wow is not balanced around 1v1" |
| 19:41.28 | Shadowed | "wow is not balanced in pvp period" |
| 19:41.42 | Hallu2 | heh |
| 19:41.52 | Hallu2 | I dunno, it's fun sometimes |
| 19:41.57 | Shadowed | doesn't matter if it's 1vs1 or 10vs10, damage is out of whack since 2.0.0 |
| 19:41.58 | [Wobin] | yeah |
| 19:42.03 | [Wobin] | but it's unbalanced |
| 19:42.03 | Hallu2 | it's a pve game, but they're trying to fix the PvP |
| 19:42.06 | [Wobin] | that's what makes it fun |
| 19:42.17 | Shadowed | thats what makes it fun for those who are unbalanced :p |
| 19:42.19 | Hallu2 | they've been mildly nerfing it here and there though |
| 19:42.26 | Shadowed | I can safely tell you, it sucks to be a warrior in pvp right now |
| 19:42.40 | Hallu2 | the damage coefficient change for improved tallents has made a big difference on crits, for instance |
| 19:42.52 | Hallu2 | a crit that used to be 3k is more like 2.5k now |
| 19:43.06 | Hallu2 | or maybe it was even more before, I don't remember |
| 19:43.50 | Shadowed | That doesn't change much, when you end up with stuff like ice lance being insta cast/no cool down, or Rogues with mut you have a system that favors one a few classes heavly |
| 19:44.07 | Hallu2 | well, my perogative on it is that warriors are the most gear dependent class |
| 19:44.14 | Hallu2 | and compared to what gear will be, their gear currently blows |
| 19:44.20 | Hallu2 | due to the level cap rise |
| 19:44.30 | Hallu2 | so I think it may take a little time for that to sift out |
| 19:45.19 | Shadowed | What made Warriors good in pvp before 2.0 was the fact that if we got lucky with crits, we could 2-4 shot somebody before dying, with the STA and resiliance chances thats not really going to be possible |
| 19:46.12 | Hallu2 | one of these dropped for me the other day |
| 19:46.14 | Hallu2 | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=55805 |
| 19:46.41 | Hallu2 | to many warriors, that item seemed amazing... it's 180 attack power on an axe |
| 19:47.06 | Hallu2 | but I think that's just the shape of things to come |
| 19:47.07 | Shadowed | It doesn't hit that much harder then an eye of nerub actually :p |
| 19:47.09 | Hallu2 | in a few months that will be just like an arcanite reaper |
| 19:47.53 | Shadowed | Roughly, a MoM is still better if I remember my melee formulas correctly |
| 19:48.05 | Shadowed | oh didn't see the extra 80 AP |
| 19:48.06 | Hallu2 | yeah, but the point is that it's just a blue drop |
| 19:48.18 | Hallu2 | a blue boe |
| 19:48.18 | Hallu2 | hehe |
| 19:49.18 | Shadowed | MoM is still better by about, 20 or so top/low actually |
| 19:50.03 | Hallu2 | the item level is 112... so what kind of item levels can we expect for 25 man epic axes? |
| 19:50.11 | Shadowed | Have you seen the itemization for 25 mans? |
| 19:50.17 | Hallu2 | not really |
| 19:50.20 | Hallu2 | hehe |
| 19:50.29 | Shadowed | it's not very amazing |
| 19:50.47 | Shadowed | Gear will not make up for the fact that even clothies aren't very squishy anymore unless you're a rogue |
| 19:51.12 | Hallu2 | well, warriors never stood a chance versus mages |
| 19:51.31 | Shadowed | lucky crits > mages |
| 19:51.52 | Hallu2 | like a warrior usually only got me if I was off guard... or really drunk |
| 19:52.13 | Hallu2 | or like he used cooldowns and I didn't |
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| 19:53.25 | Shadowed | I forgot how much I was hitting mages for with a crit and death wish up, but i'm pretty sure I was able to do roughly 4k damage in two hits |
| 19:54.21 | sioraiocht | anyone know if kirkburn is around? |
| 19:54.34 | Shadowed | ~seen kirkburn |
| 19:55.15 | purl | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 13h 51m 38s ago, saying: 'Tierrie, how did you try to install it, and did you check compatibility?'. |
| 19:55.15 | sioraiocht | bummer, anyone know stuff about clearfont |
| 19:55.15 | Malivil | Is purl dead or something? |
| 19:55.20 | Malivil | There we go |
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| 19:55.34 | Malivil | HA |
| 19:55.38 | sioraiocht | speak of the devil and he shall appear... |
| 19:55.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 19:55.46 | Malivil | Thats amazing |
| 19:55.49 | kaso | hahaha |
| 19:55.54 | sioraiocht | hey Kirkburn, I have a question for you |
| 19:55.57 | kaso | awesome |
| 19:56.00 | Malivil | Not 2 minutes after somebody asked for him, he came |
| 19:56.00 | Shadowed | [54:25] <Shadowed> ~seen kirkburn |
| 19:56.04 | Shadowed | [55:22] * Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #wowi-lounge |
| 19:56.07 | Shadowed | less then that! |
| 19:56.15 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 19:56.17 | Malivil | wow |
| 19:56.34 | Kirkburn | Also, I managewd to log onto WoWWiki just two minutes after someone vandalised the front page |
| 19:56.45 | Shadowed | Kirkburn has powers |
| 19:56.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | seen summons people through the twisting nether |
| 19:56.53 | kaso | How doth one vandalise the frontpage? |
| 19:57.08 | Malivil | Add random crap |
| 19:57.17 | Kirkburn | Someone replaced the wiki logo with a fat man |
| 19:57.19 | Shadowed | You replace it with an example of a penis for example |
| 19:57.20 | Shadowed | or you do that |
| 19:57.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~seen my_two_million_dollars_i_misplaced_in_the_twisting_nether |
| 19:57.33 | purl | i haven't seen 'my_two_million_dollars_i_misplaced_in_the_twisting_nether', Mr_Rabies2 |
| 19:57.33 | Shadowed | err |
| 19:57.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 19:57.41 | Shadowed | minus the last "for example" part |
| 19:57.44 | Kirkburn | Currently looking for Vista drivers |
| 19:57.50 | sioraiocht | ...ew |
| 19:57.58 | kaso | Kirkburn why isnt the logo protected? |
| 19:58.02 | Kirkburn | It is now :) |
| 19:58.31 | kaso | ha |
| 20:00.10 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, uh, there was something you wanted to ask me? |
| 20:00.20 | Kirkburn | Ah no |
| 20:00.22 | kaso | it was sioraiocht |
| 20:00.24 | Kirkburn | Er, sioraiocht |
| 20:00.43 | Corrodias | penis is inherently more entertaining than fat man |
| 20:00.52 | Kirkburn | Depends on the fat man |
| 20:00.59 | Malivil | o.O |
| 20:01.56 | sioraiocht | kirkburn: I tried to add my own font pack to clearfont and failed miserably |
| 20:01.56 | Kirkburn | Ah |
| 20:01.57 | Kirkburn | Did you follow the example one? |
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| 20:02.02 | sioraiocht | aye, I took a .dfont file, converted it to ttfs, followed the names, changed the font base in the .lua files...did I miss something |
| 20:02.21 | sioraiocht | what I feel is odd is taht it loaded my prior font, does it do that upon failure? |
| 20:02.36 | Corrodias | i'm still torn about the Frostbite talent |
| 20:03.16 | Corrodias | i hear it hampers attempts to AoE farm stuff, but on the other hand it sounds so effective at helping get things frozen to increase crits |
| 20:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | its good for single target bad for aoe |
| 20:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | so sec based on what you do more |
| 20:04.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | spec* |
| 20:04.20 | Corrodias | well, my little mage isn't quite high enough to aoe anything yet |
| 20:04.31 | Hallu2 | fire mage AoE with a shaman spec'd for earthen shield |
| 20:04.37 | sioraiocht | as a mage I'll tell you frostbite is awesome |
| 20:04.41 | Hallu2 | 100% chance to avoid interruption casting fire spells |
| 20:04.48 | sioraiocht | I did frost from 1 to 60, heh |
| 20:04.49 | Hallu2 | flamestrike |
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| 20:05.13 | sysrage | frost from 1-70 with enough in arcane to get imp CS |
| 20:05.17 | sysrage | kicks serious ass |
| 20:05.20 | Hallu2 | could easily have 45% crit for flamestrike all the time now |
| 20:05.46 | sioraiocht | sysrage: I agree, I havn't played my mage since BC yet though, becuse cladhaire is a whore and wanted to switch to horde |
| 20:06.14 | Hallu2 | Frost is great, but so is fire |
| 20:06.19 | Hallu2 | I like them both equally |
| 20:06.42 | sysrage | for the horde! :p |
| 20:06.44 | Corrodias | i ended up choosing frost because it sounded more... interesting |
| 20:07.09 | Hallu2 | most of our mages atm are 40/21/0 or 40/0/21 atm |
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| 20:07.48 | Hallu2 | due to then 25% int to +damage and the +15% int |
| 20:08.09 | sysrage | 3 min mages. ya i can't believ Shadowed is crying about icelance but not crying about 3 min mages owning his ass |
| 20:08.15 | Hallu2 | and extra crit damage |
| 20:08.25 | Corrodias | that's strange. wowhead's talent calculator isn't doing anything for me with firefox 2. |
| 20:08.50 | Hallu2 | the funny thing is that the heavy arcane spec is not currently that reliant on arcane power to put down good damage |
| 20:09.12 | Hallu2 | due to the +50% crit damage and high +damage from int conversion |
| 20:09.22 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: link? |
| 20:09.34 | Hallu2 | I'm not spec'd that way, but I've been considering it. I've never spec'd arcane power on live. |
| 20:09.48 | Corrodias | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=R0xVZZVAMIRfxswot was what i went through, which was the latest version of my frost-based build |
| 20:09.53 | Hallu2 | I did about 5 months with 28/0/23 though |
| 20:10.28 | Shadowed | sysrage: Because 3 minute mages aren't an issue? |
| 20:10.38 | Corrodias | but the talent calculator is acting all screwed up with this firefox 2 |
| 20:10.40 | sysrage | i gurantee you get owned my by 3 minute mages than you do by icelance |
| 20:10.50 | Shadowed | No actually, most mages I run into are frost |
| 20:10.56 | Hallu2 | no frostbite?! |
| 20:10.57 | sysrage | ... |
| 20:10.57 | Shadowed | I haven't seen a 3 minute mage for a while actually |
| 20:11.10 | Hallu2 | AoE grinding I guess |
| 20:11.17 | Corrodias | i take it "3 minutes" refers to an arcane talent |
| 20:11.31 | sysrage | pom and umm that other one |
| 20:11.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | AP, PoM, pyro build |
| 20:11.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | is the essence of the 3 minute mage |
| 20:11.47 | Shadowed | frost is far better in pvp then an arcane mage is |
| 20:11.56 | Corrodias | now that i've reloaded the page, it works properly |
| 20:11.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | arcane's good in 2v2 arena, but that's about it |
| 20:12.20 | Hallu2 | right now it's strong in PvE too |
| 20:12.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | arcane/fire that is |
| 20:12.30 | Hallu2 | due to the +int to damage conversion |
| 20:12.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you can drop half of the competition in a second |
| 20:12.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | two 3 minute mages would tear arenas up |
| 20:12.47 | Corrodias | and yes, Hallu2, i designed it with aoe farming in mind (with options for using blizzard or CoC based methods) |
| 20:13.27 | Corrodias | i'm not sure if i actually want to -do- that, but i wanted to leave it as an option |
| 20:13.39 | Shadowed | the 3 minute mage was mostly an effective PVP class back during WSG when you had double trinkets |
| 20:14.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're fantastic if there's as many 3 minute mages as opponents |
| 20:14.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | or if it's close |
| 20:14.40 | Corrodias | if i don't like the whole AoE farming concept, i'll move some points into Frostbite. somehow. i'm not sure where i'd take them from. |
| 20:15.15 | Corrodias | possibly elemental precision, possibly winter's chill |
| 20:15.27 | Shadowed | kaso: So I guess you can't hijack the status bar and use it as a count down :( |
| 20:15.48 | Shadowed | even if you do an onupdate, it flickers |
| 20:16.01 | kaso | it does? sucky |
| 20:16.24 | Shadowed | Although |
| 20:16.30 | kaso | if it flickers then your stuck, the frames are updated from C code so you cant do anything to stop the updates |
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| 20:16.44 | Shadowed | I suppose nothing stops you from hiding the health bar, and putting your own in it's place |
| 20:16.58 | kaso | that is very true |
| 20:19.13 | Shadowed | blah |
| 20:19.27 | Shadowed | such a pain to do spell tracking when you don't have access to the level |
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| 20:36.43 | vithos | ~seen Kirkburn|afk |
| 20:36.48 | purl | kirkburn|afk is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace #wowwiki, last said: 'Mr_Rabies2, v nice'. |
| 20:37.12 | Kirkburn|afk | ~seen Kirkburn |
| 20:37.14 | purl | kirkburn <n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 14m 13s ago, saying: 'Make sure someone knows if that vandal comes back, I'm going semi-afk'. |
| 20:37.29 | vithos | aha. |
| 20:37.43 | vithos | i've narrowed down the clearfont problem i was talking about last night |
| 20:37.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh yes? |
| 20:38.16 | vithos | it happens with only clearfont2 and its dependencies loaded |
| 20:38.38 | vithos | but not after starting with a fresh WTF\ |
| 20:39.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Perhaps the settings aren't/weren't saved properly? |
| 20:39.24 | vithos | but with a fresh WTF\ it doesn't load the font initially if it's from an external addon fontpack, though it will set the font properly if i change it to something else and change it back |
| 20:39.31 | bleetah | gah! report a quest that's bugged out on me 4 times, say in my GM ticket 'please email me on this as I'm pretty annoyed right now', then logoff... the email I get? "Thanks for your report. Appreciate feedback. Can't guarantee a response'. I'm like "WTF#$*&$(#$%AARGH!' |
| 20:40.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | ghjkl;' |
| 20:40.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Perhaps there's nothing they can tell you? |
| 20:40.21 | vithos | so i'm not sure if this is two seperate issues or just one |
| 20:40.26 | Kirkburn|afk | vithos, odd |
| 20:41.20 | bleetah | Kirkburn|afk: well, it'd nice if they actually said that rather than sent me an email that's about one millimetre away from a 'go away' |
| 20:41.48 | vithos | but the strange thing is, i just reinstalled all addons and cleared WTF\ yesterday, but after having a bunch of addons enabled and slowly reducing it down to just cf2 the problem persisted |
| 20:42.13 | vithos | i don't guess the savedvariables from disabled addons could be affecting anything? |
| 20:42.54 | Kirkburn|afk | They shouldn't do |
| 20:42.54 | amro | bleetah: GM emails are never helpful. If you don't get answered while online, don't bother reading the email they send you. |
| 20:43.17 | bleetah | amro: yeah, online's far more useful... |
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| 20:44.40 | amro | i remember once a GM was helping me out because of a bugged quest, like actually TPing me around, but eventually it was because i was too lazy to read the quest log carefully since I had already done that quest before |
| 20:44.52 | vithos | http://wowi.pastey.net/6041 does that look how it should? |
| 20:45.21 | vithos | that's from the one where it's never setting the chatframe font |
| 20:46.18 | vithos | ["showText"] = true is not present in my sv's from the one where it's able to change the chatframe font |
| 20:46.43 | Kirkburn|afk | That's a Fubar option |
| 20:47.18 | vithos | hmm.. the other difference is i have scale set in the one that won't change the chatframe.. i guess i should do some more experimentation with that |
| 20:48.00 | bleetah | I remember, when was it, 1.11, when the feeding pet happiness points didn't decrease or anything, reporting it to a GM. They were watching me as I was making my pet hungry and feeding it, etc. One thing we noticed was in regards to the rule with pets doing all the killing for you -> no loot |
| 20:48.05 | Kirkburn|afk | See, unlike my own version ... your SV actually saves the ClearFont options :/ |
| 20:48.31 | bleetah | another PC came along, wasn't in a group with me, tapped the mob that only my pet attacked, and I could loot it. The GM was a little suprised ;) |
| 20:48.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Mines doesn't include the scale or font, which is very weird. Never been able to work it out |
| 20:48.49 | Kirkburn|afk | The chatframe font size won't be controlled by that |
| 20:49.01 | Kirkburn|afk | You have to do it from the chatframe's options] |
| 20:49.40 | vithos | ok, i had been changing the size that way anyway. |
| 20:50.23 | vithos | well, i'll start from scratch again and see if i can narrow it down any further |
| 20:51.14 | amro | bleetah: that's interesting. what's boring about that GM is he didn't spawn mobs for you to kill |
| 20:52.12 | bleetah | amro: I was killing wolves around Feathermoon Stronghold at the time, Australian time on a US server so practically no other PCs in the zone at the time ;) |
| 20:52.58 | amro | oh. I got TP'd to SS at level 8, but the GM yanked me out before I got to the flight point =/ |
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| 20:58.27 | bleetah | what's also annoying, is a ticket is tied to a toon, rather than the account (ie, relog to another toon, the ticket disappears) |
| 20:58.41 | bleetah | *the ability to edit/cancel the ticket disappears |
| 20:59.32 | Shadowed | So, nobody has done spell tracking before that has dealt with the issue of only being able to identify mobs in the combat log by now? |
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| 21:00.40 | amro | is there another way to do it? |
| 21:01.17 | Shadowed | probably not, but i'm trying to figure out if anyone else has dealt with the issue of same-name mobs before I start trying :p |
| 21:02.05 | Shadowed | because i'm pretty sure i'll spend a few hours trying to make my solution work, just to realise it's to complicated and redo it in 10 minutes |
| 21:03.12 | kaso | Shadowed, what exactly are you doing ? |
| 21:04.51 | Shadowed | Sunder tracking Kaso |
| 21:05.09 | kaso | you using the status bars as a 1-5 sunders meter type thing? |
| 21:05.34 | Shadowed | yeah, going to use the bars/name and such to display the info like how many sunders are on the mob and/or the time left |
| 21:07.00 | Shadowed | was just a suggestion someone posted on the forums which sounded like an interesting thing to try |
| 21:07.37 | kaso | i think you're gonna have trouble working around multiple mobs i guess |
| 21:07.57 | Shadowed | pretty much |
| 21:08.16 | kaso | the only way to tell two mobs names the same apart is via raid icons and hoping somone in the raid is targetting each, but even that isnt a huge benifit for you |
| 21:08.24 | Shadowed | I think I can do some hackish stuff like if you have two mobs of the same name, ones at 10% anothers at 50% and you see a dies message, assume the 10% one died. |
| 21:08.35 | Shadowed | not really perfect, but meh |
| 21:08.46 | kaso | mm |
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| 21:11.14 | Shadowed | oh boy this is going to be fun to do |
| 21:11.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | blah i can't find anywhere to get ora other than wowace SVN :O |
| 21:11.57 | amro | what's wrong with the SVN? |
| 21:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't show a friend some screens |
| 21:12.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | to see if he likes it |
| 21:12.25 | Xuerian | Go to the screenshots thread on the wowace forums |
| 21:12.28 | amro | doesn't it have a page on wowace.com? |
| 21:12.37 | Xuerian | Or the wiki O_o |
| 21:12.42 | bleetah | only way I can think of, is a mod that *every* tank would have to run, and then the mod itself would track PC/Mob that way. There's no way a single tank could sunder two mobs at once |
| 21:13.31 | bleetah | the mod would track the mobs by 'first hit by <tank>/mob name/mob level' |
| 21:14.24 | Shadowed | Well, mostly it's meant for 5 mans where you only have one Warrior sundering but multiple mobs to deal with. I'll make it so it'll sync with other Warriors running it although |
| 21:15.51 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchant_Chest_-_Exceptional_Mana <-- is this obtainable? |
| 21:16.00 | bleetah | hmm, yeah, well I think no matter which way you try to do it, it wouldn't be pretty and would need to assume some stuff |
| 21:16.18 | Shadowed | dealing with multiple warriors will be later although, mostly i'm going to try and figure out a semi-reliable way to track mobs with the same name and when they die |
| 21:16.33 | Shadowed | my guess is it'll be a combination of name, level, gender and health |
| 21:17.12 | bleetah | yeah, and I still suspect it'll be far more accurate if everyone's running it... it kinda sounds a little like some of the ol' ThreatMeter's logic |
| 21:18.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | dear guys and girls wut would i need to play MC at heroric mode ? |
| 21:19.09 | bleetah | I was under the impression non-BC instances don't have heroic modes, but I may be mistaken |
| 21:20.20 | Cairenn|afk | oooops .... |
| 21:20.31 | Cairenn|afk | (don't f with me) |
| 21:20.52 | Cairenn|afk | "Our technicians are looking into the situation. In the mean time, we have deleted the student's site from our system. I apologize for any inconvenience." - Director, Center for Academic Technologies Concord University |
| 21:21.18 | Shadowed | bleetah: not really |
| 21:21.39 | kaso | bleetah is correct |FF|Im2good4u its only TBC 5mans with heroic modes |
| 21:21.48 | Shadowed | only warriors need to be running it since they are the only ones who can sunder or refresh the time, in 5/10 mans *typically* you don't have more then one or two warriors sundering |
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| 21:23.01 | Shadowed | devastate is easy enough to track |
| 21:23.11 | TC_Working | i remeber reading a blue post that as of this time they dont have any intent to upgrade pre BC instances with Heroic mode |
| 21:23.52 | Shadowed | they already had heroic dungeons, it was scholo before they nerfed it :p |
| 21:24.20 | Xuerian | <Shudders> scholo... |
| 21:24.32 | Arrowmaster | scholo trash used to hit for 2x the hp of some party members? |
| 21:24.53 | Shadowed | scholo trash was an art |
| 21:24.58 | Shadowed | it was easy to pull two groups at once |
| 21:25.06 | Shadowed | err, trash pulling |
| 21:25.45 | bleetah | I can see them maybe turning a couple heroic after the endgame BC are 'mastered', and the next XPac is delayed ;) |
| 21:26.14 | Shadowed | I think it would be pretty hard to make the old dungeons heroic without redoing them completely |
| 21:26.37 | AlphaSEQ | not really. Just up the level of the mobs as a base start |
| 21:26.57 | bleetah | it'd prolly come down to cost/benefit analysis of whether the time to turn them heroic would be worth it by keeping current players entertained whilst working on more new content |
| 21:27.21 | Shadowed | If all you do is increase level, double hp, make them hit harder people would be bored of them quickly |
| 21:28.26 | bleetah | increase spawn rates too ;) |
| 21:28.37 | AlphaSEQ | depends on what they've done with the new dungeons. I haven't seen a heroic one yet to determine what is different other than level |
| 21:29.02 | Shadowed | From what i've heard listening to guild chat, you basically have to relearn the dungeon, a lot of the bosses have new spells and such |
| 21:29.07 | bleetah | it'd also come down to exactly *what* the backend code for 'heroic' does, and how extensible it may be |
| 21:29.14 | jaxdahl | trash is harder to crowd control |
| 21:29.29 | jaxdahl | some bosses have different abilities or stronger stuff or debuffs that can't be dispelled like they were able to |
| 21:29.55 | bleetah | then I could see that being quite fun :) |
| 21:30.05 | jaxdahl | steamvaults, first boss has a longer lasting lightning cloud which means you have have more than 1 cloud at once, harder to move around |
| 21:30.12 | bleetah | "This isn't the Baron you were expecting! mwhahahah!" ;) |
| 21:30.21 | jaxdahl | mech boss was pretty easy |
| 21:30.41 | jaxdahl | last boss, the containers have more HP so you have to focus more dps on them, not sure what else was different |
| 21:30.59 | jaxdahl | in ramparts, Omor's debuff isn't dispellable and the felpuppy is a lot tougher |
| 21:31.44 | jaxdahl | sethekk halls, the 2 pulls have bloodthirst hits for 6k+ on plate i heard? and very hard to control, stun was the only thing that worked i think |
| 21:32.19 | bleetah | I'd suspect it's more a case of Heroic mode only existing in BC client, and by making it available to pre-BC instances, there'd be a possibility of moving the code into core WoW, and therefore would require extra testing etc. etc. which *may* be what they refer to when they say 'no plans' => 'we know how, we've thought about it, but nothing's been put on the production line yet' ;) |
| 21:32.58 | Shadowed | It's not very hard to make it so you can't zone into a herioc instance |
| 21:33.07 | Shadowed | i'm pretty sure you can't switch it to herioc once you've zoned in |
| 21:33.13 | kaso | how much of heroic mode is client size thought? the switch thats it? |
| 21:33.14 | jaxdahl | correct. |
| 21:33.20 | kaso | s/size/side |
| 21:33.28 | jaxdahl | you also need revered rep to get a key to zone in |
| 21:33.30 | kaso | damn you trailing / 1! |
| 21:34.48 | bleetah | all *we* see is the switch, there's the extra mobs skills/anims etc. |
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| 21:35.39 | jaxdahl | when 2.0 went live and before TBC did, you could select heroic difficulty |
| 21:35.49 | jaxdahl | but it did nothing b/c none of the current instances had heroic modes. |
| 21:36.02 | jaxdahl | tried it with wailing caverns |
| 21:36.17 | jaxdahl | it doesn't have anything to do with client side stuff. |
| 21:36.50 | AlphaSEQ | nor should it since the client just needs to receive info from the server about what model to place where |
| 21:37.03 | AlphaSEQ | spells, hp, etc... should all be server side |
| 21:37.17 | bleetah | yes, but the animations for those spells are client side |
| 21:37.32 | bleetah | as an eg of why there's more than just a UI switch |
| 21:38.14 | AlphaSEQ | right, but the client doesn't know that boss X casts spell Y, just to draw Spell Y effect at place Z when it receives a message |
| 21:38.16 | Shadowed | How much of those spells are new graphics vs reused or used by multiple mobs that may not be heroic |
| 21:38.31 | bleetah | that'd come down to what the game designers want |
| 21:39.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, Media Center is coool |
| 21:50.43 | bleetah | so, I speak to a GM ingame.. they tell me that there's some weirdness with the quest, and I should search the forums for the quest name. So I do a global search of the quest name string. Guess what? No relevant posts at all. |
| 21:51.11 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:51.11 | bleetah | just a bunch of people crying that the rewards got changed from BC Beta |
| 21:51.13 | bleetah | or something like that |
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| 21:55.38 | Shadowed | ~poke Cairenn|afk |
| 21:55.44 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cairenn|afk, pokes Cairenn|afk repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 21:55.51 | Shadowed | mind accepting a mod! |
| 21:55.56 | Cairenn|afk | nevah! |
| 21:56.00 | Shadowed | ( |
| 21:56.03 | Shadowed | er =( |
| 21:56.19 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 21:56.29 | Cairenn|afk | welcome :) |
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| 22:05.37 | bleetah | ok, the quest item has a two hour limit on it... yay for wowhead! boo for warcraft forums! |
| 22:06.08 | kergoth | yay for wowhead indeed |
| 22:06.16 | bleetah | so, it's really a blizz bug. the quest item doesn't say '2 hour timer' |
| 22:08.06 | Shadowed | kaso: forgot to ask, but I assume regions 2 - 4 of name plates don't do anything? |
| 22:08.27 | kaso | Well i guess theyre various textures making it up |
| 22:08.36 | kaso | trying Hide() ing and see what disapears |
| 22:08.41 | Shadowed | I did, nothing happened |
| 22:09.01 | kaso | then theyre prob the raid icon and the skull icon, those arent shown by default |
| 22:09.07 | Shadowed | ohhhh |
| 22:09.10 | Shadowed | i forgot about that, good point |
| 22:09.13 | Shadowed | checks* |
| 22:10.05 | kaso | i remeber the raid icon was odd, if you saw one frame with a raid icon attached then all other frames texture would be that icon's dispite the rest being hidden |
| 22:11.08 | Shadowed | nope it's not that |
| 22:11.54 | kaso | odd, wonder what they are |
| 22:12.22 | Shadowed | it's not the floating text above the mobs either |
| 22:13.07 | Shadowed | no GetFrameType either |
| 22:14.12 | kaso | GetRegionType() is the one you want |
| 22:14.14 | kaso | i think |
| 22:15.31 | Shadowed | no regiontype either |
| 22:16.38 | Shadowed | nothing called GetRegionType on the wiki actually! |
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| 22:17.28 | kaso | theres a function something like that |
| 22:17.43 | kaso | im sure there was but i cant find it :< |
| 22:17.56 | Shadowed | hrm not as far as i can see :p |
| 22:18.55 | kaso | GetObjectType() |
| 22:19.15 | kaso | so 2-4 are all textures of some kind |
| 22:19.32 | kaso | 4 is the glow around the nameplate when you hovver over |
| 22:19.51 | kaso | 2 is the border of the nameplate |
| 22:20.12 | kaso | three is a mystery |
| 22:21.06 | Shadowed | odd, you sure about 2? |
| 22:21.23 | kaso | Do GetTexture() on it |
| 22:22.09 | Shadowed | do a GetTexture on 1, it's the same one |
| 22:22.20 | Shadowed | I don't think they use 2 |
| 22:22.25 | kaso | hmm, odd |
| 22:23.13 | kaso | three is a 12x12 texture at the bottom left of the HP bar, i think it could be to do with the casting bar, gonna go check |
| 22:23.50 | Shadowed | That'd explain why i'm not seeing anything doing a hide on 3 |
| 22:24.30 | Shadowed | You're right that 4 is the glow on the name plate tho |
| 22:24.32 | kaso | it has no texture assigned to it though, its possible it could just be superfluous |
| 22:24.43 | Shadowed | maybe, but they need something to put the casting bar on |
| 22:25.03 | kaso | i think the casting bar is a seperate frame, the second return of GetChildren() |
| 22:26.06 | Shadowed | 7 is the skull that you see if you're viewing the a boss or a mob/player thats 10 or more levels higher it looks like |
| 22:26.37 | Shadowed | Oh, it sounds like 8 is the raid target icons |
| 22:27.46 | kaso | aahha! |
| 22:27.54 | kaso | 3 is the Icon of the spell from the casting bar |
| 22:28.19 | Shadowed | oh |
| 22:28.26 | Shadowed | I bet 2 is the bar used for the casting bar? |
| 22:28.36 | kaso | ooh |
| 22:28.38 | kaso | ofc it is |
| 22:28.39 | kaso | yaah |
| 22:28.44 | kaso | the texutre around it |
| 22:28.57 | Shadowed | Yeah, 8 is the raid icon when you're close enough to see the name plate of the marked mob |
| 22:30.01 | Shadowed | http://pastey.net/6048 that would be all the regions then |
| 22:30.47 | cladhaire | where's the focus glow on the target frame? =) |
| 22:30.59 | kaso | 4 ? |
| 22:31.09 | Shadowed | what do you mean focus glow? |
| 22:31.21 | Shadowed | those are the regions of the name plates not the target frame :p |
| 22:31.56 | cladhaire | i know |
| 22:31.59 | cladhaire | i'm just saying =) |
| 22:32.08 | cladhaire | i like the glow when you're targeting your focus =) |
| 22:32.29 | Shadowed | are you saying you want a glow on the name plates if they're your focus? :p |
| 22:32.45 | kaso | the glow only happens when you hoover over, otherwise its just alpha |
| 22:32.53 | cladhaire | ... |
| 22:32.54 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:32.57 | cladhaire | target somethign |
| 22:32.59 | cladhaire | then /focus |
| 22:33.02 | kaso | oooh |
| 22:33.03 | cladhaire | it'll have a glow behind it. |
| 22:33.13 | kaso | on the nameplate? |
| 22:33.27 | Shadowed | we're talking about the name plates in the 3D world :p |
| 22:33.27 | cladhaire | behind the nameplate. |
| 22:33.31 | cladhaire | ok |
| 22:33.35 | cladhaire | my bad =) |
| 22:33.37 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 22:33.37 | kaso | np |
| 22:33.42 | cladhaire | do you have names? |
| 22:33.46 | cladhaire | so i can make them click-castable? =) |
| 22:33.52 | Shadowed | it's anonymous |
| 22:34.07 | kaso | hmmmm |
| 22:34.10 | cladhaire | what can i hook to register them then |
| 22:34.14 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:34.14 | Shadowed | one sec |
| 22:34.17 | kaso | you might be able to |
| 22:34.28 | kaso | shadowed you got the code? |
| 22:34.35 | kaso | save me rooting it out |
| 22:34.36 | Shadowed | yeah pasteying |
| 22:34.40 | Shadowed | cladhaire: http://pastey.net/6050 |
| 22:35.10 | cladhaire | hrm interesting |
| 22:35.10 | cladhaire | what creates them? |
| 22:35.10 | Shadowed | we're not sure |
| 22:35.14 | cladhaire | hehe =) |
| 22:35.24 | kaso | theyre created on the fly when a nameplate is needed |
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| 22:35.43 | cladhaire | sekrets and lies. |
| 22:35.47 | Shadowed | basically we have no way of finding out when new ones are created besides doing onupdate checks, also you have no way of knowing if the name plate changed from being used for person A to person B |
| 22:36.09 | kaso | well cept from checking the name, but for similar named mobs that falls down |
| 22:36.11 | bleetah | hmm, maintenance tonight. any news on whether we're getting patched? |
| 22:36.33 | Shadowed | I suppose if you wanted to make it click-castable for people in parties/raids you could just use names and map it to an id however |
| 22:36.49 | DustyZ28 | anyone ever had PL |
| 22:36.55 | Shadowed | PL? |
| 22:37.01 | Tain | Pocket Lint? |
| 22:37.30 | DustyZ28 | Power Leveling |
| 22:37.36 | Shadowed | ohhhh boy |
| 22:37.49 | Tain | Oh no I only power nap. |
| 22:38.03 | DustyZ28 | i think its gay... |
| 22:38.05 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 22:38.07 | kaso | i assume you mean having lots of friends to help you and not the other against tou kind you shouldnt talk about here |
| 22:38.28 | Shadowed | maybe i'll steal the click-casting idea and add it the guilds raid mod :p |
| 22:39.02 | Elkano | I powerleveled to level 60 :) took me almost two years and three mains ;/ |
| 22:39.03 | DustyZ28 | ppl pay some companys $400 for level 70...that F'N CRAZY |
| 22:39.23 | Shadowed | I did it in 3 weeks and decided to never do that again |
| 22:41.56 | DustyZ28 | look http://www.offgamers.com/world-of-warcraft-us/power-leveling/burning-crusade-c-16-1691-2005.ogm |
| 22:42.21 | DustyZ28 | that crazy as S**T |
| 22:42.45 | DustyZ28 | anyone that would do that is a loser |
| 22:42.49 | kaso | DustyZ28 |
| 22:43.07 | kaso | i'll say again, you really shouldnt be talking or linking stuff like that in this channel |
| 22:43.32 | AlphaSEQ | my main hasn't even reached 62 yet |
| 22:44.33 | DustyZ28 | sorry kaso... |
| 22:44.56 | AlphaSEQ | their choice to spend all that cash like that |
| 22:45.09 | kaso | Dont apologise to me, i dont run this channel, but just as guidance. |
| 22:45.15 | AlphaSEQ | not like they are foced into doing it... |
| 22:45.21 | bleetah | I levelled a toon to 52 in under two weeks, then the guild fell apart, so I transferred off. Needless to say, that toon is now 54 from killing for loot and skinning. Haven't done a single quest since. |
| 22:45.37 | AlphaSEQ | quests are the best way to level |
| 22:45.52 | AlphaSEQ | tons of them are soloable, so don't need a guild to do them |
| 22:45.53 | kaso | im a stupidly slow leveler, my first char too around 25 days i think, (played) my second took 11 to 60. |
| 22:45.54 | DustyZ28 | but just to think 400 bux |
| 22:46.02 | Cairenn | hi, just clicked this tab again ... don't link to shit like that in here |
| 22:46.09 | Shadowed | you're not a quick one at you dusty |
| 22:46.10 | bleetah | I have no real immediate interest in levelling that toon, because it was to be specific for a certain guild |
| 22:46.13 | Shadowed | er, are |
| 22:46.24 | Shadowed | You have to grind at times from 1-60, 60-70 you should never have to grind |
| 22:47.10 | DustyZ28 | Sorry about that Carienn i was just talkin about how dumb it would be to pay 400 bux for somethin like that |
| 22:47.59 | Cairenn | saying that it's dumb is one thing, and no one in this channel will disagree with you ... just don't link to it, we all know what you are talking about without the link |
| 22:50.45 | Shadowed | wheee |
| 22:52.29 | DustyZ28 | im really sorry man wont happen agian |
| 22:52.40 | sysrage | ya MAN! ;) |
| 22:52.43 | DustyZ28 | new 2 irc |
| 22:52.49 | Cairenn | no worries, just saying |
| 22:53.01 | DustyZ28 | i understand.... |
| 22:54.40 | kaso | What the hell, riding crop 500g are people even serious? |
| 22:54.49 | Shadowed | haha |
| 22:54.50 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:55.03 | DustyZ28 | lol |
| 22:55.06 | AlphaSEQ | if someone buys it... |
| 22:55.07 | Shadowed | you know what they say, a fool and money are soon to be parted |
| 22:55.48 | kaso | its a trivial task to grind the mats for one, i did so on beta because noone used the AH :< |
| 22:56.15 | DustyZ28 | what realm you guys on |
| 22:56.15 | Shadowed | It depends how many people have the recipe, it's possible that only that one person has it |
| 22:56.29 | sysrage | anybody can get it |
| 22:56.32 | kaso | the recipe is a vendor recipe |
| 22:56.33 | sysrage | it's a vendor recipe |
| 22:56.47 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 22:56.47 | Karrion | just have to go to OHF |
| 22:57.07 | kaso | it evens sucks nowadays, back when it had 25% Use: on it then it was good |
| 22:57.16 | Shadowed | 10% isn't bad |
| 22:57.31 | sysrage | nice not having to waste 3 bag slots for carrot, gloves, and spurs though |
| 22:57.38 | Shadowed | does it not stack with them? |
| 22:57.48 | kaso | well no, but compared to the awesomeness of 35% for 20sec of whatever it is |
| 22:58.03 | kaso | it was awesome for ganking people when they tried to run |
| 22:58.05 | AlphaSEQ | http://thottbot.org/?i=58684 |
| 22:58.15 | AlphaSEQ | first comment down suggests it does not stack |
| 22:58.20 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 22:59.00 | DustyZ28 | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=53954 |
| 22:59.19 | DustyZ28 | doesnt that look like the sword of 1000 truths |
| 23:00.32 | Shadowed | okay trying to track spells is really hard apparently |
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| 23:14.35 | Shadowed | You know, now that I think about it. It's actually fairly easy to uniquely identify a mob when applying debuffs, the only real guessing is which one died |
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| 23:22.42 | Grem_Warsong | Does anyone know how to check if a particular UI element exists? |
| 23:22.54 | foxlit | ~= nil |
| 23:22.58 | Grem_Warsong | hmm |
| 23:22.59 | Grem_Warsong | k |
| 23:23.28 | Grem_Warsong | Hmmmmm |
| 23:23.35 | Grem_Warsong | Can I just do: if (object) |
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| 23:23.42 | Grem_Warsong | Because that doesnt seem to work |
| 23:24.04 | ^Alleyria | Is there a Macro that, on [button:1] Casts Deadly Poison on MH, and if Shift +Button:1 Casts Deadly Poison on OH? |
| 23:25.25 | kaso | Grem_Warsong yes |
| 23:25.48 | kaso | UI elements are just tables in lua |
| 23:27.03 | Grem_Warsong | What does it return? |
| 23:27.08 | Grem_Warsong | Does it return TRUE if it exists? |
| 23:28.27 | kaso | return? |
| 23:29.05 | Shadowed | It returns the object Grem_Warsong |
| 23:29.10 | kaso | object will equal said object if it exists, and objects are true, otherwise it will equal nil, which is false |
| 23:29.18 | Shadowed | beat me to it! |
| 23:30.17 | kaso | "hello"==true {"one","two","three"}==true nil==false |
| 23:31.44 | Grem_Warsong | Okay, thanks |
| 23:35.24 | Shadowed | Hrm, anyone know how UnitManaMax changes for mobs that use mana? |
| 23:35.35 | Shadowed | as in, would it be the same for same level mobs or can it be different |
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| 23:37.30 | Tem|AFK | kaso, that's not accurate |
| 23:37.45 | Tem|AFK | (nil == false) is a false statement |
| 23:37.58 | Tem|AFK | as is "hello" == true |
| 23:38.12 | Tem|AFK | (the same goes for the table being equal to true) |
| 23:38.20 | kaso | ok, ok, i guess |
| 23:38.45 | kaso | i was meaning for doing if object then, perhaps i should have been more clear |
| 23:38.55 | Tem|AFK | in a conditional statement, they act as true or false, but they are not _equal_ to true and false |
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| 23:48.37 | Karrion | ^Alleyria: sounds like you might like to try my addon, Poisoner >.> <.< |
| 23:49.09 | KermitKiller | Hello all |
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| 23:50.30 | KermitKiller | I have a simple question about Auctioneer and multiple toons. |
| 23:51.16 | KermitKiller | I have done a ton of scans using a Shaman toon, but I just started a Rogue, and the data doesn't seem to be shared |
| 23:51.41 | KermitKiller | anyone know if that is by design, or is something amiss? |
| 23:52.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | if its the same server and faction it should O_o |
| 23:53.33 | KermitKiller | Yep - same server, same faction. But when the rogue goes to the auction house, things like plants say never seen before. (She hasn't done a scan yet). |
| 23:53.48 | KermitKiller | Of her own, that is |
| 23:54.07 | KermitKiller | I just thought the app would use a common database. Is that your experience with it? |
| 23:55.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it did pre 2.0 |
| 23:55.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno now |
| 23:56.25 | bleetah | if you're not running our current gamma release, your snapshotDB is more than likely hosed. please ensure you've got the current gamma release and rescan on your first toon. we apologise for the inconvenience caused. |
| 23:56.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | since it's still in beta or whatever greek letter they decide to use |
| 23:56.45 | KermitKiller | hmmmm --- I checked the FAQ, and did Google searches, but can't find anything specific to sharing data across toons |
| 23:57.08 | bleetah | I would've answered in #norganna if you'd waited a bit longer before asking in here ;) |
| 23:57.31 | KermitKiller | I am running the current gamma release -- It works great for the shaman |
| 23:57.50 | KermitKiller | sorry about that - wasn't sure if anyone was there. :) |
| 23:59.17 | KermitKiller | bleetah - any chance you could jump on the ventrillo channel? |
| 23:59.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ooh i didnt realize there was a gamma release |
| 23:59.47 | bleetah | hmm, possibility it's (the snapshotDB) still polluted from the earlier buggy gamma. try /auc clear snapshot then rescan on your first toon |
