| 00:07.54 | wereHamster | TC_Working, I tried, and I'm usually good at googling, but this time I couldn't find it :( |
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| 00:10.08 | TC_Working | i just did damage meter comic and it worked fine...the title of the comic is called damage meter so it poped up |
| 00:21.35 | TC_Working | it's about time someone gave some love http://thelounge.comicgenesis.com/d/20060701.html |
| 00:22.06 | Tain | Love is there for the taking. With a few $20s. |
| 00:22.29 | TC_Working | Tain, just go to vegas already and get it out of your system |
| 00:22.57 | Tain | Actually I was going to be in Vegas this weekend, and my plans got changed. |
| 00:23.20 | TC_Working | and the agony mounts..... |
| 00:24.13 | Tain | And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those pesky kids. |
| 00:26.13 | TC_Working | hmm....tain just cut out the middle man and start here http://www.playboy.com/worldofplayboy/features/palmsnewbunny/ |
| 00:27.24 | Tain | Ah places like that are just a tease. |
| 00:27.36 | Tain | Those girls never put out. |
| 00:28.10 | TC_Working | they do, you just need to drop far more than $20 |
| 00:28.46 | Tain | Nah those mainstream places just suck your money. LIke Chris Rock says, no matter what they say, there's no sex in the Champagne Room. |
| 00:36.39 | TC_Working | hmm..no i didnt know that |
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| 00:50.16 | TC_Working | you know tain , maybe we should just send some to your front door and forget the whole trip to vegas |
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| 00:56.24 | Tain | Yeah, but I'm too lazy to go to the ATM now. |
| 00:56.51 | TC_Working | we'll send 'em with singles |
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| 01:44.56 | Garoun | Cair, if you want to delete the old Quicklook beta interface version, go right ahead :) |
| 01:45.12 | Cairenn | link? |
| 01:45.18 | Garoun | one sec :) |
| 01:45.46 | Tain | Yay for Cairenn! |
| 01:45.46 | Garoun | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6145-QuickLookTBC.html |
| 01:46.12 | Cairenn | gone |
| 01:46.40 | Garoun | danke :) |
| 01:46.46 | Cairenn | bitte :) |
| 01:47.04 | Garoun | had forgotten to update the ui.worldofwar one, and got a pm from a frantic user :P |
| 01:47.30 | Garoun | so figured I'd update both to current toc |
| 01:47.46 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 01:53.50 | Syntax-error | ok |
| 01:53.56 | Syntax-error | i looked at all 76 comics :D |
| 01:57.59 | haste | think my group just made a world record in ways you can bug old hillsbrad in one day |
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| 02:31.36 | Industrial | Can a level 1 not learn enchanting? :| |
| 02:33.09 | Zicon | industrial: You have to be level 5 to learn a profession. |
| 02:40.40 | Industrial | yeah I already HSed and started leveling |
| 02:40.55 | Industrial | I also just heard that I cant disenchant higher level stuff anymore... |
| 02:41.55 | Kaso | a level 5 can get enchanting and you can only do like 20 or levels above for DE |
| 02:42.00 | Kaso | not sure of the exact formula |
| 02:42.11 | Industrial | so much for low level naked gnomes running around IF |
| 02:42.13 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:42.21 | Industrial | I even named him "Ahchar" :( |
| 02:42.51 | Kaso | i have 4 identical female orcs as my various mules, all wearing the same clothes apart from differnt colored TShirts |
| 02:43.21 | Taktaal | sicko |
| 02:43.33 | Tain | You know one big problem with the Nintendo Wii is that games rely on precise control of the Wiimote and your lack of precise control is accentuated after you have a few drinks. |
| 02:45.19 | Mike-N-Go | Just spent 2 hours showing my mom how to log into her new gmail account.. why do these things take computer iterate people so long.. |
| 02:45.31 | Industrial | http://tinyurl.com/2wtkwt |
| 02:45.41 | Mike-N-Go | Tomorrow, how to send email.. yah! |
| 02:46.38 | Kaso | Mike-N-Go's son in a few decades time: "Why does dad have so hard a time working neural linked-mail ! its easy" |
| 02:46.46 | Industrial | lol |
| 02:47.01 | Mike-N-Go | :P |
| 02:47.33 | Kaso | technology moves on, we dont move quite so fast |
| 02:47.41 | Mike-N-Go | I guess, because you only catch on to things, with haste, when your young. |
| 02:48.03 | Tain | "If your neighbors keep complaining about the noise turn up the volume until they move away." |
| 02:48.14 | Mike-N-Go | I taught my grandma email and computer usage before my mom.. lol. |
| 02:48.53 | Mike-N-Go | I sold 4 units of Rugged Leather on the AH for 50s each.. lol. |
| 02:48.55 | Industrial | my grandpa voips and programs microchips at the same time, hes 83 |
| 02:48.59 | Industrial | o_O |
| 02:49.15 | Industrial | wonder why I like computers :D its in my blood :D |
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| 02:54.16 | Mike-N-Go | Gosh.. |
| 02:54.26 | Mike-N-Go | So many people asking for my money.. |
| 02:56.06 | Tain | Just like your mom. |
| 02:57.38 | Mike-N-Go | I have had about 8 asks for money from sub level 30 players, Blood Elves, since the patch to my level 60. |
| 03:02.01 | Tain | I got it from someone else but every time someone asks me for money I tell them to tell me why they deserve it in the form of a haiku. |
| 03:02.11 | Tain | For some reason I never get any response. |
| 03:03.59 | Zicon | I'm so going to steal that idea. |
| 03:05.16 | Thunder_Child | i need gold for me/like wind in the blossom trees/please help me with this |
| 03:06.03 | Thunder_Child | ok, so that was really bad...but i'm tired |
| 03:07.05 | Tain | I actually would give money to someone who formed a nice haiku |
| 03:07.22 | Tain | You'd think a beggar would take such an easy path. |
| 03:08.55 | Mike-N-Go | Do you know of any addon that would block tells, or any channel's chat, from people bellow x level? |
| 03:09.08 | Mike-N-Go | Or if their not on your friends list or guild? |
| 03:09.13 | Mike-N-Go | Etc? |
| 03:09.39 | Kaso | yes |
| 03:09.45 | Kaso | mine! |
| 03:09.53 | Kaso | though it only does whispers not channels |
| 03:11.30 | Kaso | Hmm, but i didnt update it for 2.0, you can have the code if you like if you fancy finishing it off |
| 03:15.28 | Mike-N-Go | Just sold 10 more rugged leather for 45s each, lol. |
| 03:18.19 | Mike-N-Go | ~kaso |
| 03:18.45 | Kaso | purl doesnt like me |
| 03:18.59 | Mike-N-Go | What is the name of your addon? |
| 03:19.03 | Industrial | ~Industrial |
| 03:19.04 | purl | rumour has it, industrial is a coder-monkey |
| 03:19.11 | Industrial | lol |
| 03:19.18 | Kaso | My addon is called JSpam, i never released it |
| 03:19.58 | Kaso | I think its like 99% done the only problem is that when it does who searchs the results arent blocked from the ChatFrame, i didnt get the pattern right |
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| 03:24.16 | tedrock | target=player in a macro means me (the player) right? |
| 03:24.16 | Kaso | yes |
| 03:24.20 | Kaso | [target=player] if you want the correct syntax |
| 03:24.20 | tedrock | thanks |
| 03:25.16 | Kaso | Mike-N-Go fancy a look? |
| 03:25.44 | Mike-N-Go | Sure.. tell me the name or address please :) |
| 03:26.15 | Kaso | JSpam, all i can give you is a pastey address |
| 03:26.19 | tedrock | [target=target,help] means my target if i can help me? meaning not enemy? |
| 03:26.57 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, please do. |
| 03:27.27 | tedrock | if #showtooltip Lesser Healing Wave |
| 03:27.29 | tedrock | err |
| 03:28.10 | Kaso | for some reason pastey is being gay ill upload to my space |
| 03:28.30 | tedrock | if [target=target,help] means someone i target that i can help would [target=mouseover,help] mean someone i'm moused over that i can help? |
| 03:28.39 | Tain | I'm not sure pastey's sexual orientation has anything to do with it. |
| 03:29.04 | Kaso | Changing use of the english language my friend |
| 03:29.30 | Mike-N-Go | "World of Warcraft Expansion: Burning Crusade" |
| 03:29.30 | Kaso | http://kasoo.net/filez/JSpam.zip |
| 03:29.30 | Mike-N-Go | We cancelled this item from your order because we did not receive your approval for the delay we experienced in fulfilling your order. Although we strive to make our shipping and delivery estimates as accurate as possible, in this case we were unable to ship within those estimates. We apologize for the inconvenience. |
| 03:29.33 | Mike-N-Go | ~Amazon |
| 03:29.41 | purl | it has been said that amazon is evil..... support independant bookstores...... http://www.powells.com, or see powells, or for info on the Amazon Boycott, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html |
| 03:29.41 | Tain | Yes, you should change your use of the English language, you are correct. |
| 03:29.43 | Kaso | knock youself out, gimme a shout if you fix it though :> |
| 03:29.50 | Mike-N-Go | Humm, so that is why it did not come in the mail, lol. |
| 03:29.54 | Thrae | tedrock: Yes, except you need to add "exists" if you use both. Otherwise it'll self-cast if you have that option enabled. |
| 03:30.09 | tedrock | where do i nee dto add exists? |
| 03:30.21 | Thrae | tedrock: [target=target,help,exists] |
| 03:30.24 | tedrock | this is what i'm trying to do /cast [target=mouseover,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [modifier:alt,target=player] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=target,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=targettarget,help] Lesser Healing Wave; [target=player] Lesser Healing Wave; |
| 03:30.41 | Mike-N-Go | At least I saw that I was not getting it on the site and went to GameStop, lol. |
| 03:32.09 | Thrae | tedrock: I think if target doesn't exist, it'll still self-cast before going to target=targettarget, not sure. |
| 03:32.26 | Mike-N-Go | I have been asked for gold, and people have asked for goods in exchange for gold.. so many since the expansion.. |
| 03:32.34 | Thrae | tedrock: Then again, if target doesn't exist, neither does targettarget...so you're good |
| 03:32.41 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks Kaso, I will try to revive your addon. |
| 03:33.57 | tedrock | woot |
| 03:35.19 | Thrae | tedrock: I'm worried that macro might not fit in 255 character limit. You can try using "Lesser Healing" instead of the full spell name. I think /cast accepts partial spell names. |
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| 03:38.30 | tedrock | oh really? |
| 03:39.00 | tedrock | it all fit but the last lesser healign wave it just says lesser healing |
| 03:39.57 | Thrae | tedrock: Remove the final [target=player] if you have auto self-cast enabled and it'll do the same thing as [target=player] (since all the other conditions failed) |
| 03:40.52 | tedrock | oh sweet |
| 03:40.54 | tedrock | good plan |
| 03:41.26 | Thrae | tedrock: Too bad you can't fit a "target=focus" in there. Then you could use a focus on the Main Tank and such |
| 03:41.32 | tedrock | i also have #showtooltip Lesser Healing Wave at the start |
| 03:41.45 | tedrock | how would that look if i wanted to do it? |
| 03:41.58 | Thrae | tedrock: I don't think you need that for cooldown purposes, if that's your only goal |
| 03:42.03 | Kaso | they should really upp the macro limit with the new system i think |
| 03:42.16 | Thrae | tedrock: Same as target=target, except target=focus |
| 03:42.23 | tedrock | but how does focus work? |
| 03:42.40 | Thrae | Kaso: Yeah, I've petitioned for it. Iriel claims it's partly because of game design reasons. |
| 03:43.08 | tedrock | basicly i just modified a macro i found for lesser healing wave. it have no purpose but to make it easy |
| 03:43.31 | tedrock | it has |
| 03:43.35 | Kaso | hmm |
| 03:44.08 | Thrae | tedrock: Focus is a new unitid which doesn't change targets until you specifically change your focus in a macro. IE, until you do /focus (which grabs the focus from your current target) |
| 03:44.49 | tedrock | hrmm |
| 03:45.12 | tedrock | i dont' wanna change my target is the whole point to it |
| 03:46.05 | Thrae | tedrock: Doing [target=focus] logic doesn't actually change your target. You only need to set your focus once. It's just useful for doing stuff like quickly healing the main tank without moving the mouse, just a single button press. |
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| 03:46.47 | tedrock | how do i set my focus though? so it knows my focus |
| 03:46.55 | tedrock | focus=target or something |
| 03:47.12 | Thrae | tedrock: See the UI & Macros forum |
| 03:47.19 | Thrae | Stickies |
| 03:47.43 | tedrock | thanks |
| 03:47.47 | tedrock | can you link me |
| 03:47.58 | tedrock | i'm about to start an instance and i'm to baked to remember this later |
| 03:50.55 | tedrock | linkage? |
| 03:52.32 | tedrock | something isn't working |
| 03:52.44 | tedrock | if i just hit the bind it says i am to far away yet i have no targe |
| 03:53.36 | tedrock | and i'm moused over |
| 03:59.37 | tedrock | i must have fucke dup |
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| 05:39.14 | tedrock | how did i break this |
| 05:39.15 | tedrock | http://wowi.pastey.net/5550 |
| 05:39.44 | tedrock | i have self heal on but if i hit the bind or just alt+bind it says i am out of range. yet i have no target and i am not moused over anything |
| 05:40.42 | Industrial | cant you just click someone and heal? |
| 05:41.08 | tedrock | so i don't have to lose my target |
| 05:41.24 | Industrial | focus him.. |
| 05:41.36 | tedrock | i could have more then one |
| 05:41.55 | Industrial | and that makes you heal better? |
| 05:42.30 | tedrock | are you gonna help or just continue to debate the need for it? |
| 05:43.38 | Industrial | I have no idea how to fix it. |
| 05:45.13 | tedrock | ok. thank you |
| 05:53.00 | Corrodias | people like to do things different ways |
| 05:53.35 | Corrodias | some people like to click on unitframes to heal. i like to click to target and then press a keybind to select my spell. if i have something else i want to watch, i guess i could make that the focus, but to be honest i cannot split my attention between my party and anything else when healing or i suck. |
| 05:55.39 | Industrial | I sure hope other games will have an interface just like wow's |
| 05:55.43 | Industrial | maybe with python :P |
| 05:56.13 | Industrial | im so spoiled I think ill have a worse game experience with the next thing if the interface is static :( |
| 05:57.00 | Thrae | Corrodias: I put my unit frames in the middle of my screen and use click-casting. |
| 05:57.57 | Cairenn | Thrae: I'm kinda like you - my unit frames need to be bottom center for me, makes it easier for me to keep track of stuff |
| 05:58.46 | Thrae | You could also use a macro like "[target=target,exists] /cast Foo <return> [target=none] /cast Foo" |
| 05:59.20 | Thrae | Cairenn: Yeah, not like I need to stare at my purple pastey elven ass for a whole instance anyway ;) |
| 06:00.16 | Thrae | I find anything larger then a 15" and I -need- my unit frames in the middle. The best unit frames I've found for this are ag_UnitFrames. VitalWatch also helps me keep track of those in critical condition. |
| 06:00.18 | seebs | Hey, I'm being totally stumped by something that might be addon-related, and I seek help. Does anyone really UNDERSTAND the chat-cache stuff? |
| 06:01.06 | Thrae | seebs: Never toyed with it |
| 06:01.29 | seebs | The problem I have is that I keep getting xtensionxtooltip2 added to my main chat window. |
| 06:01.59 | seebs | I am pretty sure this is some kind of clashing interaction between the server's record of which channels I'm in, and my chat-cache. Somehow. |
| 06:02.21 | seebs | Really, though, it's maddening. If I have a character who definitely does not see those messages, and I log out and in a couple of times, they show up. |
| 06:02.27 | Thrae | seebs: The addon Prat might help with that. http://www.wowace.com/files |
| 06:03.10 | seebs | I am pretty sure it's a bug. Somewhere. In something. |
| 06:03.24 | seebs | I am SUSPICIOUS that it is a reaction of the system to indiscriminate copying of chat-cache files around. |
| 06:04.21 | Corrodias | i guess i couldn't tell you; i always sync my chat-cache files among characters |
| 06:06.53 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 06:07.06 | seebs | Well, it seems that doing so correlated very closely with suddenly having all my chats busted. |
| 06:07.38 | seebs | It may just be a bug in FlagRSP2. |
| 06:08.08 | seebs | Well, hang on. Simply nuking every reference to that channel seems to have "fixed" things for at least some characters. |
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| 06:11.03 | seebs | Ah-hah! Is known bug in 2.0.6. |
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| 08:17.40 | tingle | hi |
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| 08:19.16 | tingle | can someone tell me why i dont get a frame ingame when i go into the game? http://wowi.pastey.net/5537 |
| 08:19.22 | Dhraga | Morning all |
| 08:22.03 | tingle | ??? anyone help? ive been msessing with it 2 days now and i cant ffigure out while it doesnt work |
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| 08:24.30 | amro | tingle if your error was about indexing a nil value you need to make sure your xml is included in your toc file |
| 08:24.42 | amro | and that your addon is getting loaded in the first place |
| 08:25.50 | tingle | wait i just got it to work |
| 08:25.52 | tingle | but |
| 08:26.01 | tingle | i used this: bgFile="Interface\TutorialFrame\TutorialFrameBackground" edgeFile="Interface\DialogFrame\UI-DialogBox-Border" tile="true" |
| 08:26.44 | tingle | why didnt it load the backround and border from my interface addon taplg? |
| 08:29.46 | tingle | how cxan i get it to load the border and backround from my computer? |
| 08:32.21 | tingle | amro |
| 08:32.33 | tingle | what do you mean |
| 08:33.00 | tingle | my toc only has this in it: TAPLG.xml (and the normal stuff at the beginning |
| 08:33.30 | tingle | what do i have to put in there to load blp files in the addon folder? |
| 08:39.33 | tingle | hello? |
| 08:41.16 | tingle | -.- im getting pissed |
| 08:42.34 | tingle | spam spam spam |
| 08:43.36 | tingle | . |
| 08:43.41 | tingle | . |
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| 08:43.57 | tingle | hello anyone there? |
| 08:44.33 | Cide | tingle |
| 08:44.48 | Cide | stop. spamming. the channel. |
| 08:45.36 | tingle | if thats the onlyway to get someone to look -.- ive been messing with this since yesterday |
| 08:45.42 | Cide | look |
| 08:45.44 | Cide | we don't have to look |
| 08:45.47 | Cide | we don't have to help |
| 08:45.50 | Cide | we don't have to reply |
| 08:46.03 | Cide | if we want to, we can just ignore you and your immature behavior and live on with our lives |
| 08:46.13 | tingle | your mean |
| 08:46.17 | Cide | and that's most likely what most people are doing since you are spamming the channel |
| 08:46.19 | Cide | yes, I am mean |
| 08:46.46 | Cide | but only to you |
| 08:46.49 | tingle | you told me to read |
| 08:47.00 | tingle | and look on wikki and faraframes |
| 08:47.01 | Cide | on the contrary, you, however, are being annoying to 111 people |
| 08:47.22 | Widgertick | WTS F to DI. |
| 08:47.51 | Corrodias | you don't put .blp references in the .toc file |
| 08:49.06 | tingle | how can i get the border and backround to load? i used: bgFile="Interface\TutorialFrame\TutorialFrameBackground" edgeFile="Interface\DialogFrame\UI-DialogBox-Border then it worked but why didnt it work with bgFile="\Interface\AddOns\TAPLG\TutorialFrameBackground" edgeFile="\Interface\AddOns\TAPLG\TUTORIALFRAMEBORDER" ??? |
| 08:51.53 | Corrodias | for that, i have no idea... |
| 08:52.08 | Corrodias | you have to use those as textures on the frame somehow, but i don't know anything about that |
| 08:53.28 | Widgertick | tingle, do you even have those files in your addon's folder? |
| 08:53.51 | tingle | yes |
| 08:54.50 | Widgertick | Have they been in there since you started WoW? |
| 08:55.02 | tingle | in the folder Interface\AddOns\TAPLG are: TAPLG.toc, TAPLG.xml, TutorialFrameBackground.blp, TUTORIALFRAMEBORDER.BLP |
| 08:55.36 | tingle | what you mean ive been in there |
| 08:56.46 | Widgertick | The files need to be in your addon's folder when you first start WoW. |
| 08:57.38 | Widgertick | And where did you get those files? |
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| 08:58.34 | tingle | from the wow art |
| 08:58.48 | Widgertick | Then why do you need them in your addon's folder? |
| 08:59.29 | tingle | to load them? |
| 09:00.25 | Widgertick | If they're from the wow art, you don't need to include them with your addon. |
| 09:00.38 | tingle | why |
| 09:00.57 | Widgertick | Because the wow art is included with everyone's copy of wow. |
| 09:01.00 | Widgertick | That's why it's called the wow art. |
| 09:01.13 | tingle | oh... |
| 09:01.18 | tingle | ok i get it |
| 09:04.34 | tingle | do you know thos towers and flags that sometimes show up in the top middle of your screen? like in hellfire pen... (outlands) |
| 09:04.55 | tingle | or like in the plaguelands |
| 09:05.34 | tingle | when i have a frame at the top thos towers go over the towers how can i make the toweres move beside or away from the frame |
| 09:10.17 | Mike-N-Go | Yay! |
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| 09:10.39 | Corrodias | i know them, but i don't know their paths |
| 09:10.55 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/5553 |
| 09:10.59 | Corrodias | or.. how to move anything |
| 09:11.08 | Mike-N-Go | I figured how to drop said item =) |
| 09:12.24 | steev | anyone here familiar with dongle? |
| 09:13.33 | steev | i have local P = DongleStub("DongleUtils") - and when i load the game, I get the error, Cannot find a library with name 'DongleUtils' |
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| 09:18.36 | Corrodias | i'm familiar with my own dongle |
| 09:18.41 | Corrodias | but not yours |
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| 09:24.03 | tingle | what lvel does a frame need to be to be movable? |
| 09:27.47 | Corrodias | yeah... no idea |
| 09:31.11 | Widgertick | It doesn't need to be on any particular level. |
| 09:31.19 | Widgertick | Look on wowwiki, there's a guide to movable frames. |
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| 09:45.30 | Mike-N-Go | How do I get an itemlink (the hyperlink forum) into the chat frame? |
| 09:47.41 | Corrodias | iiiiiii don't know! |
| 09:48.05 | Corrodias | i do know where to order a dragon penis dildo, but nothing about item links. |
| 09:52.37 | Widgertick | Look on wowwiki for itemlink =) |
| 09:53.08 | Zicon | Dragon WHAT?! |
| 09:57.08 | Mike-N-Go | Widgertick: I did |
| 09:57.26 | Mike-N-Go | I am not sure how to incorporate that. |
| 09:58.29 | Corrodias | dragon PENIS |
| 09:58.32 | Corrodias | DILDO |
| 09:58.53 | Corrodias | can you hear me now? |
| 09:58.54 | Zicon | corrodias: WHERE can I get one?! |
| 09:59.08 | Corrodias | www.zoofur.com |
| 09:59.19 | Mike-N-Go | Not soon, I may ignore you because of your profaneness. |
| 09:59.39 | Zicon | Goddammit, he actually had an answer. *boggled* |
| 09:59.48 | Corrodias | specifically, http://www.zoofur.com/dragon.html |
| 10:00.07 | Corrodias | i want a metal one to use as a statue, a conversation piece |
| 10:00.23 | Corrodias | because i like that kind of conversation |
| 10:00.25 | Zicon | That. Is. So. Great. |
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| 10:06.40 | Corrodias | i can just see putting that on a shelf near my computer or something |
| 10:09.46 | Mike-N-Go | ~wowwiki itemlink |
| 10:09.52 | Mike-N-Go | ~wow itemlink |
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| 10:13.49 | Corrodias | sometimes i enjoy reading "noob guideS" or introductory material, such as on wowwiki. it makes me feel smart, because i know it all. |
| 10:17.59 | Corrodias | so what do you think it would be like to be a GM on an RP realm, trying to keep people in character? |
| 10:18.00 | Corrodias | ahaha |
| 10:18.18 | sancus | I dont know |
| 10:18.26 | steev | they don't |
| 10:18.31 | sancus | but I would make a lot of gold black mailing people over cyber chat logs |
| 10:18.42 | Corrodias | gasp. wowwiki lies. it says they do! |
| 10:19.15 | Corrodias | and how horrible to GM an RPPvP realm. i don't even want to think about the tickets. |
| 10:19.31 | sancus | I think they are supposed to keep people in character |
| 10:19.34 | sancus | at least on public channels |
| 10:19.49 | sancus | Im not really sure |
| 10:19.52 | sancus | and I also dont really care |
| 10:20.02 | Corrodias | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemLink for that guy looking for item link information before... |
| 10:20.06 | sancus | s'far as im concerned the rp servers are even more of a cesspool than the general populace :P |
| 10:21.41 | Corrodias | why's that? |
| 10:24.50 | Mike-N-Go | Yay, I got the itemLink :) |
| 10:28.24 | Corrodias | once i'm settled down at 70, i really would like to go back and do some of those old instances for story purposes. i want to see what goes on. |
| 10:28.43 | sancus | haha |
| 10:28.44 | Corrodias | although it looks like the whole [Corrupted Ashbringer] deal in the Scarlet Monastery would require a class other than druid, which can't wield swords |
| 10:28.54 | sancus | you kill shit, with very little explanation, in most cases :p |
| 10:29.11 | sancus | the only lore in naxx is ashbringer and atiesh |
| 10:29.13 | Corrodias | i guess i could just read about it |
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| 10:44.07 | Corrodias | "The overhead name of a player, mob or NPC should not appear orange to you." |
| 10:44.34 | Corrodias | this page needs an update. "unfriendly" reputation level NPCs/mobs have orange overhead text. http://www.wowwiki.com/Orange |
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| 10:50.00 | Corrodias | i don't have a wowwiki account, so that's a job for one of yous. |
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| 10:51.58 | Kaelten | http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2007/01/24/chronicle-ages-web |
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| 11:13.46 | foxlit | Seems I can't do anchors inside <NormalFont>. |
| 11:15.39 | Corrodias | you know, the lands of WoW are in pretty bad shape |
| 11:16.07 | Corrodias | 80% of the land area of Azeroth destroyed in the whole well of eternity deal and Draenor blown the fuck up |
| 11:16.18 | Corrodias | we could really use a new planet |
| 11:18.15 | Zicon | No problem, let's just give Magrathea a call. |
| 11:18.22 | Corrodias | who now? |
| 11:18.55 | Zicon | ... you just failed spectacularly at geekdom. |
| 11:19.13 | Corrodias | i never played any warcraft games, you see |
| 11:19.16 | Corrodias | i'm just reading on wowwiki |
| 11:19.28 | Corrodias | i'm spectacularly terrible at RTS games |
| 11:23.30 | Corrodias | thus my grasp of the lore is a bit shaky, although i have a good base |
| 11:28.01 | Corrodias | wouldn't an underwater raid encounter against Neptulon be cool? You'd all have to have water breathing potions or Hydrocanes, and it would be dark and scary~ |
| 11:31.24 | Zicon | Sounds cool, at least. |
| 11:34.12 | amro`afk | or blizzard could put something other than basilisks and birds in the empty space between towns |
| 11:34.27 | Corrodias | ...i know! more murlocs! |
| 11:57.46 | amro | more monster infighting! |
| 12:03.15 | Corrodias | i try to learn the warcraft lore, but as i'm sure you can understand, it's pretty tricky figuring out the proper timeline and event relationships by reading all sorts of pages about individual figures |
| 12:04.21 | Corrodias | i have a few concerns |
| 12:04.38 | amro | there are different timelines |
| 12:04.41 | Corrodias | one is that i don't know why the dalaran mages are hostile to players, although it may just be horde players, because i've never trekked silverpine as an alliance character |
| 12:04.52 | amro | they're friendly to alliance |
| 12:04.59 | Corrodias | what mooks |
| 12:05.01 | amro | but a nice farming place for horde |
| 12:05.20 | Corrodias | yeah, you can get dalaran wizard robes from them, which look kinda nifty, all purple and stuff |
| 12:06.41 | Corrodias | okay. now, in outland, you've got illidan, whose excuse for being a "bad guy" is that he's lost his mind. kael'thas is, from what i can tell from reading this, in a similar state, partly due to his fulfilled addiction to magic (thus making him what the blood elves on azeroth call a "wretched") |
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| 12:08.06 | amro | basically the lore sucks now with BC |
| 12:08.12 | foxlit|afk | 2.1.0: "Murlocs invade Outland" |
| 12:08.18 | amro | metzen is crapping this stuff out |
| 12:09.01 | Corrodias | it feels pretty weak, i agree |
| 12:10.10 | Corrodias | but maybe that's just because they haven't revealed what's currently going on |
| 12:10.18 | amro | warcraft was about badass heroes, but in wow there are none |
| 12:10.27 | amro | they're either sitting in capital cities |
| 12:10.35 | amro | or raid bosses |
| 12:10.42 | amro | which is ridiculous if you ask me |
| 12:11.01 | Corrodias | i'm not sure how you'd implement heroes in WoW, except as NPCs that assist you during raids |
| 12:11.10 | Corrodias | like that Rajaxx fight that i have only seen once |
| 12:11.17 | amro | that's not what i meant, not in terms of gameplay |
| 12:11.39 | foxlit|afk | Who is that guy, anyway? |
| 12:12.05 | amro | topless with more armor than mail |
| 12:12.12 | amro | must be the eyepatch |
| 12:12.18 | Corrodias | a descendent of ancient warriors who protected Azeroth during the first invasion, i think... |
| 12:12.23 | Corrodias | or at least he's in some way related to them |
| 12:12.35 | Corrodias | i don't know who the fuck he is exactly because wowwiki doesn't say much about him |
| 12:12.57 | amro | he's just a guy for a raid encounter. wow is becoming more and more about raids and less about the lore behind them |
| 12:13.39 | Corrodias | well, lore makes a good book, but it can only keep a game interesting for so long, unless you add content at a ridiculous pace |
| 12:13.54 | amro | yeah but the lore behind the content is mostly crap |
| 12:14.09 | amro | you're not really following a story, you're just going after epics |
| 12:14.21 | Corrodias | true, that |
| 12:14.21 | amro | there should be more quest lines like the missing diplomat for example |
| 12:14.31 | Corrodias | missing diplomat does not sound familiar |
| 12:14.47 | foxlit | It's cute, but it was never anything conclusive |
| 12:14.48 | amro | its a huge quest line where you try to find out what happened to the king of stormwind |
| 12:14.53 | amro | its incomplete |
| 12:15.17 | Corrodias | but i agree, something a little more story-heavy would be nice. i read this interesting bit about an event involving [corrupted ashbringer] from naxx, but it seems there's not much to it, and it's one of extremely few such interesting things |
| 12:15.17 | amro | the ravenholdt quest started out nicely though it didn't have much to do with lore, then they crapped on it |
| 12:15.27 | amro | naxx is a joke |
| 12:15.36 | amro | "Who cares if Kel'thuzad regenerates to full power"? |
| 12:15.38 | Corrodias | i wonder if i'd like to follow that shifting sands quest line some time. it sounds long. |
| 12:15.56 | Corrodias | i never played in naxx so i have no idea what you're talking about |
| 12:16.22 | amro | that's the tooltip on the item you loot from him |
| 12:16.23 | Corrodias | i never delved too deeply into what naxx was about because i had no hope of ever seeing it, at least until BC was announced |
| 12:17.26 | amro | blizzard is adding lots of content, but what they should really be doing is changing content |
| 12:17.35 | Corrodias | and there's one problem. if you write a lot of story into high-end instances, you're writing for a few hardcore guilds on each realm, leaving out most of the players. unless you don't make them challenging, which would bore those players. |
| 12:17.49 | foxlit | <amro> that's the tooltip on the item you loot from him |
| 12:17.50 | foxlit | No? |
| 12:18.02 | amro | er its the quest test maybe |
| 12:18.06 | Corrodias | i'd like to see more story content, but i would like to -see- it, not hear about it |
| 12:18.07 | amro | text* |
| 12:18.21 | amro | good point corrodias |
| 12:18.26 | bleetah | more high lord kruul |
| 12:18.32 | amro | raids shouldn't be so closely tied to lore |
| 12:18.46 | Corrodias | okay, and in exchange i'll grant that 5-mans should be |
| 12:18.48 | amro | killing an important warcraft figure for loot is ridiculous |
| 12:19.18 | foxlit | Why? |
| 12:19.24 | Corrodias | of course, we can never permanently change anything, except for example the opening of the dark portal |
| 12:19.30 | foxlit | At the end of the day, Kel'Thuzad is killed by a band of heroes of azeroth |
| 12:19.42 | amro | because all heroes died dramaticalled in the series |
| 12:19.48 | Corrodias | it gets a bit repetetive |
| 12:20.01 | foxlit | Shard text/quest attempts to adress the discontinuity between that and you clearing naxx every week. It's a nice way of doing that, too. |
| 12:20.30 | Corrodias | obituary reads "killed by a band of heroes from Azeroth", for onyxia, ragnaros, nefarian, countless of their followers, kel'thuzad, kael'thas, illidan, hakkar, etc |
| 12:20.32 | amro | i know that's what it does, but "who cares?" they could've left that part out. that's saying fuck lore, loot ftw |
| 12:21.19 | amro | for what reason? warcraft is about the battle between the horde and the alliance, which is still ongoing. yet all they do is run around collecting resources and stealing flags |
| 12:21.22 | amro | some war |
| 12:21.25 | Corrodias | the future-orcs of Draenor 2027 will read their history books and say "wow, that band of heroes from Azeroth sure killed a lot of things" |
| 12:21.33 | amro | haha |
| 12:22.01 | foxlit | Different bands of heroes; It's not that much of an issue |
| 12:22.04 | Corrodias | "oh well, back to tickling gnomes" |
| 12:22.24 | Corrodias | here's another interesting thing |
| 12:22.38 | Corrodias | i need to check on the proper spelling of a name, brb |
| 12:22.52 | foxlit | "that's saying fuck lore, loot ftw" |
| 12:22.53 | amro | foxlit, yes it is, the only reason those heroes kill is loot, and killing off kael'thas for loot doesn't make for good lore |
| 12:23.10 | foxlit | Interpret that as the corrupting power of the shard; Kel wants to live, corrupts you into letting that happen. |
| 12:23.30 | Corrodias | "a band of heroes wanted a cool staff so they killed this super powerful lich that the armies of azeroth couldn't" |
| 12:23.50 | Corrodias | "otherwise, they would have let the world be destroyed because they were playing another game" |
| 12:24.04 | amro | foxlit, the "who cares?" still sucks imo. use a different expression maybe |
| 12:24.16 | foxlit | It's a pun :) |
| 12:24.50 | Corrodias | Agamaggan helped the forces of Malfurion gain access to Azshara and the Well of Eternity. |
| 12:24.56 | Corrodias | yet the quillboars are a bunch of assholes. |
| 12:25.02 | Corrodias | some followers |
| 12:25.04 | amro | lol |
| 12:25.09 | amro | no matter how you interpret things, wow took a crap on warcraft lore |
| 12:25.24 | Corrodias | i agree. but it is fun. |
| 12:25.31 | amro | that's another thing |
| 12:25.41 | amro | lore doesn't make it more fun, just more interesting |
| 12:25.47 | Corrodias | arr. |
| 12:26.26 | Corrodias | it's the difference between going into naxx "to slay the lich and decimate the power of the scourge" and going into naxx "to kill a boss for items" |
| 12:26.55 | Corrodias | they play the same, but the former is more engaging. or would be. |
| 12:26.55 | amro | most players don't care about lore, but that's not a reason to take a leak all over it |
| 12:27.26 | amro | heck, the only reason i was interested in wow is the lore. i assumed i'd be kicking horde ass, but i was wrong |
| 12:27.38 | foxlit | If lore impedes gameplay? Crap all over it. |
| 12:27.53 | amro | it doesn't necessarily impede gameplay |
| 12:27.57 | Corrodias | tauren druids <3 |
| 12:28.09 | amro | if you don't care about lore, you're not going to care if its some random lich instead of kel'thuzad in naxx |
| 12:28.57 | foxlit | That kills the "we're going in there to save azeroth", though |
| 12:29.11 | Corrodias | see, if there were some good lore elements in AQ and Naxx, i would like to go back and play through them at 70 |
| 12:29.16 | Corrodias | if there aren't, there just really isn't a point |
| 12:29.51 | amro | well, they could say that lich is in charge of kel'thuzad's stuff while he's out partying in northrend |
| 12:29.51 | foxlit | AQ and Naxx had a lot of fun game mechanics that you really should go back for even without paying attention to the lore |
| 12:30.08 | Corrodias | that's another part. i would like to see some of these boss battles. |
| 12:30.12 | Corrodias | although then i'd have to learn them! |
| 12:30.24 | Corrodias | time for a level 70 naxx pug, eh? |
| 12:30.44 | foxlit | I don't think Naxx pugs will work, ultimately |
| 12:30.55 | amro | raid mechanics are interesting, but some fights make no sense, like that boss that drops all players' hp to 5% |
| 12:31.13 | foxlit | Naxx punishes every individual failure, and you really can't rely on a 7 level difference to even things out |
| 12:31.28 | amro | i mean, what the fuck? sure its an interesting mechanic, for an arcade game maybe, but its just ridiculous in wow's setting |
| 12:31.29 | Corrodias | i can ALMOST kill this warrior with ten thousand health, yet i can also only ALMOST kill this priest with three thousand. |
| 12:31.59 | Corrodias | well, i know my guild will never muster 40 players at one time to go do something relatively pointless |
| 12:32.03 | foxlit | Killing the priest would be easier afterwards, no? |
| 12:32.22 | Corrodias | i don't see the relevance, but the answer is yes |
| 12:32.33 | amro | might as well give a boss laser vision. oh wait, they did that |
| 12:32.46 | Corrodias | did they give a boss super speed? |
| 12:33.02 | Corrodias | tights? a cape? |
| 12:33.16 | amro | wouldn't put it past them =) |
| 12:33.35 | foxlit | no and no, as far as I know |
| 12:34.00 | Corrodias | okay, in this next raid, you fight... uh... superman. yeah. and he drops [Clark Kent's Spectacles]. go get 'em. |
| 12:34.08 | amro | the whole game is designed around raids which not everyone does. for example not being able to do certain actions while in combat is mostly intended to disable those actions in boss fights, because you dont have time to drink in a 1v1 |
| 12:35.41 | foxlit | I'd say that's a gameplay mechanic, since drinking would make things rather trivial. |
| 12:35.49 | amro | in raids yes |
| 12:35.51 | Corrodias | i'm not sure if my guild is right for me. they're scaling membership to try to make sure we have 25 people at any given time ready to raid, plus miscellaneous other people doing other things who won't feel left out because they couldn't go |
| 12:36.08 | amro | they could have debuffs or attacks or other things that stop you from drinking |
| 12:36.24 | Corrodias | i fear i'll never get a group of, say, 30 together to hit naxx just for fun, unless our officers can organize events with friendly guilds |
| 12:36.29 | foxlit | Why bother wasting a debuff slot? |
| 12:36.46 | amro | ...or an attack |
| 12:37.03 | amro | or something other than you magically cannot drink or eat |
| 12:37.29 | amro | the game is playable of course, but it would be much more interesting without this bullshit |
| 12:38.02 | foxlit | What, with everything proccing "Not Thirsty" when you enter combat? |
| 12:38.22 | foxlit | Just consider it automatically there; I don't really see a problem. |
| 12:39.16 | amro | with the boss bitch slapping you when you try to drink, or a fight where drinking is necessary, a boss that drains mana, an aoe that damages for a little and stops you from drinking, lots of things |
| 12:46.40 | foxlit | How do I move a button's NormalText? |
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| 12:59.56 | Corrodias | the noncombat pets irritate me |
| 13:00.13 | Corrodias | i have a desire to collect them, but they're mostly pointless and it's impossible to obtain them all |
| 13:00.20 | Corrodias | for me to, anyway |
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| 13:04.50 | kaso | I used to always keep them, but once i started seriously raiding i needed the bagspace so the only one ive kept is my Worg pup, cos its sooo damn cute ^^ |
| 13:05.04 | Zicon | Alliance can, theoretically, collect them all. :P |
| 13:05.48 | Corrodias | that's why i changed my statement |
| 13:06.04 | Corrodias | it's impossible for me to collect them, at least with my current account, because i don't have collector's edition stuff |
| 13:06.11 | Zicon | Which reminds me, I should update my pet guide for TBC. |
| 13:06.30 | Corrodias | and it would be another 2 years at least to collect all three of the children's week things, since i don't have one |
| 13:07.05 | Corrodias | some pets are pretty cute, but they take up bag space, i never remember to take them out, and they're just mostly a nuisance when they are out |
| 13:07.07 | Zicon | And you have to do both engineering specializations. |
| 13:07.13 | nymbia | well you can never get zergling + diablo + panda on the same character ;) |
| 13:07.41 | Zicon | ... ok, everyone but two, then. |
| 13:07.58 | Corrodias | a hunter's pet is a special thing, but the noncombat pets... i think they just dilute my enjoyment of the game if i pay them any attention |
| 13:08.43 | Corrodias | in addition, i find the most entertaining part of playing a hunter by far to be taming a new pet, which should show you how easily i get bored with the other activities |
| 13:09.39 | Corrodias | hunter does not entertain me :( |
| 13:10.04 | Corrodias | my pet can't keep aggro unless i hold back, or FD every fight |
| 13:10.14 | kaso | Really? |
| 13:10.34 | kaso | BM spec i can virtually never get aggro off my pet. |
| 13:10.41 | Corrodias | i've tried a couple of specs, and i've never been able to go all-out without pulling it |
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| 13:11.21 | kaso | If i Start off with an intimidation, theres nothing i can do to get it off Spot (my stripy tiger) |
| 13:11.27 | Corrodias | i also don't like to have to manage a second character during combat, trying to toggle pet abilities while i'm trying to use my own, although technically there's not much to do besides toss an arcane and possibly multishot in there sometimes if you don't have aimed shot |
| 13:12.49 | Corrodias | i didn't think of using intimidation right at the start... |
| 13:13.17 | Corrodias | another issue was that i ran out of places on my action bars to put stuff, but since the last time i played my hunter i found a LOT more places on the bars out of necessity with my druid and mage |
| 13:14.13 | Corrodias | well, he's an ugly little level 35 troll which i guess i could get back to playing any time i felt like it |
| 13:14.43 | Corrodias | my final complaint is that trying to choose a cool pet would be a pain if the only avilable pet of that type is significantly below your level |
| 13:14.49 | kaso | Have you played him since 2.0 ? because i do believe they did up the threat on pets a fair bit then. |
| 13:15.13 | Corrodias | no, i don't think i've played him since 1.9 |
| 13:15.16 | Corrodias | or so |
| 13:15.37 | Corrodias | looks like hunters and pets have had some major changes since then |
| 13:15.50 | Corrodias | "All pets now have a base attack speed of 2.0."? |
| 13:16.12 | Zicon | No more hunting for the two cats that had 1.0. |
| 13:16.17 | kaso | mm :< |
| 13:16.28 | kaso | I got broken tooth a few weeks before that patch |
| 13:16.40 | Corrodias | loser |
| 13:16.54 | Corrodias | i'm sorry, i have to immediately jump on any sign of weakness in order to feel superior |
| 13:17.00 | kaso | hahaha |
| 13:17.07 | kaso | now he's just sitting in the stable with his 1.6 attack speed :< Such a waste |
| 13:17.13 | Corrodias | are the health/armor/dps differences still there? |
| 13:17.27 | kaso | in small degrees i believe |
| 13:17.28 | Corrodias | which are "significant but not huge" |
| 13:17.35 | Corrodias | 1.6? |
| 13:17.50 | kaso | ive got talents to get 20% attack speed for me and pet |
| 13:18.08 | Corrodias | did hunters get some talent changes? i think so, now that i think about it. |
| 13:18.15 | kaso | yah |
| 13:18.36 | kaso | and now aimed shot is crap the whole thing is changed, you dont need to keep above 3.0 speed etc |
| 13:19.03 | Corrodias | if i want my pet tanking, should i be looking for a pet with high armor and health to survive without me healing it longer, or more damage to help me kill things faster and hold aggro better? |
| 13:19.15 | Corrodias | although "high health" is only 13% more than a "low health" one |
| 13:19.23 | Corrodias | "high damage" being 22% more damage than "low damage" |
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| 13:19.57 | kaso | Ive had my cat since level 5, he does sweet damage and with BM he doesnt take stupid amounts of damage unless im taking on like three or four at once |
| 13:21.02 | kaso | Im seriously gay for BM atm. |
| 13:21.14 | Corrodias | i think i'll be gay for BM, too |
| 13:21.24 | Corrodias | now you've got me all excited about hunter again, even though it sounds VERY gay. |
| 13:21.27 | Zicon | I've never tried anything but marksmanship. Maybe I should. |
| 13:21.35 | Corrodias | is there a way to deal with trying to level up low level pets? |
| 13:21.46 | kaso | you have to fight things green to you at least |
| 13:22.05 | kaso | but the pet gets XP in releation to their level to the mob (unless its grey to you then they get 0) |
| 13:22.32 | Corrodias | hmm. and the battle gets tough with a pet that can't take a hit, although you should be able to handle green mobs easily enough with a hunter |
| 13:23.10 | kaso | but now that pets are pretty much all the same just grab one at your level ? |
| 13:23.22 | Corrodias | you might want a certain pet |
| 13:23.33 | Corrodias | like i said, the most fun part of being a hunter is getting the pet you want. the rest is fluff and crap. |
| 13:23.42 | Corrodias | levels? pishaw. |
| 13:24.08 | kaso | Its all pretty much the same to me |
| 13:24.16 | kaso | though i do feel connected to spot, ive been with him a while. |
| 13:24.42 | Corrodias | what pissed me off back in 1.9 is that some pets were just pointless compared to others. for example, spiders got nothing special, and couldn't Dash. |
| 13:25.11 | Corrodias | the only possible two reasons to get a spider as a pet were if you're an archnophile or if you are fighting arachnophobes. |
| 13:25.24 | Corrodias | has that been remedied? can all the pets dash/dive? :/ |
| 13:25.32 | Corrodias | or have some other redeeming quality?! |
| 13:25.44 | kaso | not all, ts still like that too a degree, if your BM you want a pet with a Spammable focus spell but theres more choice |
| 13:29.28 | kaso | Boars, cats, birds, snakes wind serpants are all pretty good |
| 13:29.28 | kaso | The only fucking annoying thing is that they fucked up FD |
| 13:29.28 | kaso | that pisses me off so miuch |
| 13:29.29 | Corrodias | what's wrong with FD? |
| 13:29.36 | kaso | you basically need to stay on the floor for 1second for it to work |
| 13:29.49 | kaso | usually like i used to i just hit FD then jump up again |
| 13:29.56 | kaso | then thye keep beating on you :< |
| 13:30.01 | foxlit | Make a /cancelaura macro |
| 13:30.13 | kaso | cancelaura how does that help? |
| 13:30.16 | foxlit | Or not :) |
| 13:30.30 | kaso | oh i understand what you meant |
| 13:30.45 | kaso | nah its just that for some reason it takes a second to register and it never used to |
| 13:30.45 | Corrodias | oh. yeah. i never got the hang of "split second FD" myself |
| 13:34.21 | TheStig | some nub huntard tried that with me today, but i just poly'ed the pet and blinked over to him and he died |
| 13:35.44 | foxlit | There are no reward pages for outland pvp? |
| 13:36.31 | Corrodias | so... blizzard continues to add lackluster hunter pets |
| 13:36.54 | Corrodias | the spore bat: no dash, no dive, and no damaging abilities |
| 13:38.25 | kaso | Ravengers are awesome i hear |
| 13:38.29 | kaso | dont know though no tbc |
| 13:38.42 | Corrodias | they seem to be. they get Dash and Gore, and are "offensive" type pets |
| 13:38.59 | Corrodias | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/families/family_ravager.html |
| 13:39.55 | Corrodias | with a cute variety of colors and no "caster" types (int/spi being higher than sta/str/agi, etc, making them bad pets) |
| 13:40.30 | Corrodias | the nether rays look cool, but apparently all of the available nether rays are "caster" types |
| 13:40.58 | Corrodias | warp stalker, limited color selection, but it does have a nifty "warp" ability, and they look cool |
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| 13:49.31 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. U know any command to show blizz heal bar for I be able to move it? |
| 13:53.05 | TheStig | what heal bar |
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| 14:23.06 | [DI]manix | hey ppl, wanted to ask you something is there a problem when from one addon you change other addon saved variables? |
| 14:24.28 | cladhaire | no |
| 14:24.35 | cladhaire | `they're just tables. |
| 14:24.46 | [DI]manix | k |
| 14:24.59 | [DI]manix | then it is my program mistake :) |
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| 14:30.56 | Taktaal | btw if you do that make sure to check for the other addons version first |
| 14:31.10 | Taktaal | people arent happy if you corrupt their data |
| 14:31.34 | [DI]manix | nah i am doing on addon for me and making second for options |
| 14:32.35 | [DI]manix | cladhaire you still maintain this modified version of scite? |
| 14:33.10 | cladhaire | "maintain" is such a dirty word |
| 14:33.19 | [DI]manix | haha :) |
| 14:33.26 | cladhaire | buti suppose |
| 14:35.25 | cladhaire | whats up> |
| 14:37.24 | kaso | i dont know how to get the wow.api working on the linux version :> |
| 14:38.18 | cladhaire | you have to reference it in the lua.properties file |
| 14:39.14 | kaso | ah |
| 14:52.53 | amro | dammit, when will people stop designing websites that only take up 25% of the middle of the screen? |
| 14:52.58 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 15:05.19 | kaso | I just released i havent used blood fury for the last week or something on my hunter :< i changed my UI and forgot to put it on a actionbar |
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| 15:07.50 | nomenquis | Hi, I'm looking for some help with a macro I want to write. Basically I want to enable auto looting, cast a spell and then disable it again. Is this even possible as a single button click action? I can do all 3 steps in seperate macros fine, but not in one macro. |
| 15:08.17 | kaso | sure its possible |
| 15:08.20 | nomenquis | So, a macro like /script SetAutoLootDefault(1); cast Pick Pocket; /script SetAutoLootDefault(0); does not work |
| 15:08.35 | nomenquis | then, can you give me some pointers at what I'm doing wrong? |
| 15:08.55 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.55 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.55 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.57 | kaso | try that |
| 15:09.09 | nomenquis | thats exactly what I tried, but it does not work |
| 15:09.20 | kaso | then its proberly the client server lag |
| 15:09.29 | kaso | you'd need to write a mini-addon to do it |
| 15:09.37 | nomenquis | Isnto autoloot a client functionality? |
| 15:10.05 | kaso | yah but pickpocketing isnt, i think its getting turned off before the loot window even opens |
| 15:10.23 | nomenquis | ok, this really makes sense. So, what can I do? :) |
| 15:10.39 | kaso | do you have any timing packages, Timex, Chronos etc ? |
| 15:10.53 | nomenquis | yea, I think I've got chronos installed |
| 15:11.58 | kaso | try this then |
| 15:11.59 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.59 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.59 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.00 | nomenquis | cool. exactly what I want. thanks a lot! |
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| 15:30.15 | kaso | Any other people using wine for wow ? |
| 15:31.53 | nomenquis | another, more tricky question: Now that I've my autoloot when pickpocket script, I'd love to have the same thing for skinning. However, I can't just write a macro for that, can I? |
| 15:31.59 | haste | I do, sometimes |
| 15:32.03 | haste | mostly Cedega tho' |
| 15:33.34 | kaso | haste, whenever an addon uses alt -drag or something it fucks up with wine because linux is wanting to use Alt-Drag to move the window around, know anyway around that? |
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| 15:34.52 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 15:34.52 | kaso | nomenqus |
| 15:35.00 | nomenquis | yes? |
| 15:35.06 | kaso | use the same macro but use /cast [target=mouseover] Skinning |
| 15:35.09 | zenzelezz | heya CSMS |
| 15:35.43 | kaso | but ofc you'll have to press the button instead of right clicking |
| 15:35.49 | nomenquis | Thats not quite what I want though. I'd like to hook whatever gets called when i right lick |
| 15:35.55 | nomenquis | click :) |
| 15:36.20 | kaso | it be easier to watch for the you being to cast skinning event |
| 15:36.24 | haste | kaso: change your movement key to Super instead (ie. the windows button) |
| 15:36.29 | haste | kaso: that's what I did :) |
| 15:36.46 | kaso | nice idea |
| 15:37.03 | nomenquis | But how can I do that in a macro? |
| 15:37.05 | haste | or ctrl+alt or something |
| 15:37.21 | kaso | it'd have to be a "mini-addon" |
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| 15:38.12 | nomenquis | Ok, then I guess I'll have to seriously look into that. Never wrote an addon before |
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| 15:49.00 | kaso | nomenquis |
| 15:49.10 | nomenquis | yes? |
| 15:49.34 | kaso | cos im so nice i've written a addon for you :> |
| 15:49.45 | nomenquis | wow, cool :) |
| 15:50.21 | nomenquis | where can I get it? |
| 15:50.45 | kaso | gimme a mo to upload it |
| 15:50.52 | nomenquis | sure, take your time |
| 15:54.11 | kaso | http://kasoo.net/filez/JAutoLoot.zip give that a go |
| 15:54.35 | kaso | itll work for pickpocketing also you dont need the macro we did eariler |
| 15:54.47 | kaso | i think at least |
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| 15:56.53 | nomenquis | going to install / try it now :) |
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| 16:02.52 | nomenquis | works for skinning, nice, now going to find some humanoids :) |
| 16:05.08 | nomenquis | hmmm, failed on first try with pickpocket, trying again :) |
| 16:05.33 | nomenquis | nope, does not work |
| 16:05.43 | nomenquis | hmmm |
| 16:05.55 | nomenquis | perhaps it is becaue there is no casting bar for pick pocket? it's instant |
| 16:08.18 | kaso | hmm perhaps |
| 16:08.20 | kaso | lemme test |
| 16:08.30 | kaso | yah actually thats the problem |
| 16:10.23 | nomenquis | is there some other thing you can hook to get notified of the spellcast? |
| 16:13.06 | kaso | its just a differnt event im coding it now |
| 16:14.04 | kaso | open up JAutoLoot.lua |
| 16:14.17 | nomenquis | yep |
| 16:14.36 | kaso | delete everything |
| 16:14.40 | nomenquis | lol |
| 16:14.41 | kaso | replace with http://www.pastey.net/5560 |
| 16:14.58 | kaso | oh wait |
| 16:15.22 | nomenquis | hey, this pastey is really cool! |
| 16:15.24 | kaso | hit refresh on that URL, ive updated it |
| 16:15.27 | nomenquis | never heard of it before |
| 16:15.38 | kaso | its a good site, we use it alot around here :> |
| 16:16.35 | ScytheBlade1 | kaso, want to add in support for Enchanting? ;) |
| 16:16.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, disenchanting. |
| 16:16.57 | nomenquis | yes! how could i forget :) that would be great too :) |
| 16:17.11 | kaso | change the word "pick pocket" to whatever it is you cast to DE should do it |
| 16:17.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "Disenchant" |
| 16:17.41 | nomenquis | no, change skinning :) |
| 16:17.55 | nomenquis | de is a cast with a casttime |
| 16:18.21 | nomenquis | nice, it works now |
| 16:18.29 | nomenquis | really cool |
| 16:19.41 | kaso | cool |
| 16:20.20 | nomenquis | both skinning and pick pocketing work fine now. thanks a lot, really |
| 16:20.33 | kaso | np |
| 16:20.35 | nomenquis | you should add disenchanting and put it onto curse gaming or so |
| 16:20.58 | zenzelezz | you realize the is the WoWInterface channel? |
| 16:21.05 | nomenquis | so? |
| 16:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | So it hits WoWI ;) |
| 16:21.21 | zenzelezz | I just find it fun when people suggest other mod sites |
| 16:21.22 | nomenquis | whaterver :) |
| 16:21.47 | nomenquis | sorry, I didn't even know there was a wowi site at all. i just found the irc link on some macro site |
| 16:21.48 | nomenquis | ^^ |
| 16:21.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Quite honestly, I'm scared that one of my addons got the "Popular" status |
| 16:21.58 | zenzelezz | aha :) |
| 16:22.42 | nomenquis | what addon did you write? |
| 16:22.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5583-YASMM-YetAnotherSquareMiniMap.html |
| 16:22.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That |
| 16:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a hack job and is incredibly dirty code |
| 16:23.35 | nomenquis | hey, this one looks nice :) |
| 16:23.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That's about all it does ;) |
| 16:23.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't look at the code and keep thinking that ;) |
| 16:23.57 | nomenquis | lol, tell me about it. i once wrote a driver for the g15 for linux and all of a sudden WAY too many people started using that hack :) |
| 16:26.02 | nomenquis | aw, kaso, add disenchanting and publish it. this addon is really really helpfull |
| 16:26.12 | kaso | might do so |
| 16:26.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Mining would fit also |
| 16:26.39 | kaso | mm |
| 16:26.41 | nomenquis | yea, add that too :) |
| 16:26.52 | ScytheBlade1 | And the infamous Herbalism |
| 16:27.07 | nomenquis | I'll add the localisation to it for the german client if you want |
| 16:27.33 | nomenquis | or can you use english spell names in addons? |
| 16:28.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Spell names are localized |
| 16:28.07 | kaso | no you cant, but spell names arent hard to find on websites |
| 16:28.22 | kaso | wowguru has most of the spell database in all localisations |
| 16:28.37 | nomenquis | I can also test it here, so if you want i can at least test it :) |
| 16:28.54 | kaso | im just writing in some pretty opitions and stuff :> |
| 16:29.05 | nomenquis | ah, this sentence didn't make much sense, playing ant typing isn't that good when done at the same time :) |
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| 16:45.03 | Cairenn|afk | hi new person |
| 16:46.02 | seth___ | Hi :) |
| 16:46.05 | Cairenn | and morning guys |
| 16:47.44 | seth___ | Nice Topic ;D |
| 16:47.57 | Cairenn | quiet in here this morning, everyone must be off playing the expansion |
| 16:48.07 | Cairenn | or sensible and still asleep ;) |
| 16:48.21 | Cairenn | heh, we have fun with them :) |
| 16:48.25 | seth___ | I didn't get the expension yet ... ^^ |
| 16:48.33 | Cairenn | bleh |
| 16:49.04 | seth___ | Mostly because I didn't get a CE and now I don't want one before I get my first lv 60 ^^ |
| 16:49.18 | Cairenn | as good a reason as any |
| 16:53.53 | Tain | I've only been able to play a little bit since the expansion came out, just 35% through 60. But I just now realized I never spent my talent points after they were reset. |
| 16:53.58 | Tain | So I've been playing with no talents. |
| 16:54.33 | haste | I did that under beta |
| 16:54.47 | haste | "Wonder why my damage is so gimped now :-(" |
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| 16:55.40 | Tain | Funny thing is I was doing fine and I didn't really even notice. |
| 16:57.14 | Cairenn | heh |
| 16:57.30 | Cairenn | I did that repeatedly throughout alpha & beta |
| 16:57.41 | Cairenn | not realize that the points had been reset |
| 16:59.28 | Tain | It wouldn't even be so bad if it weren't for the fact that I knew they were reset, and I just thought I had already spent them. |
| 16:59.45 | kaso | Tain which class are you? didnt you notice any missing spells |
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| 17:02.10 | Tain | Rogue |
| 17:02.41 | kaso | ah i guess depending on the build there wouldnt be too much to miss |
| 17:02.41 | haste | oh, I remember not getting my blade flurry / adrenaline rush macro working :D |
| 17:02.52 | haste | that was 'cause I hadn't specced :3 |
| 17:03.31 | Tain | Yeah Blade Flurry and Adrenaline Rush were the only things I had missing, and I didn't notice them because I use them more when it is a really tough fight or raid. |
| 17:03.37 | Tain | And I've been just cruising a bit. |
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| 17:08.32 | cladhaire | soo.. |
| 17:08.33 | cladhaire | um |
| 17:08.35 | cladhaire | flight form. |
| 17:08.37 | cladhaire | fucking rocks. |
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| 17:09.07 | Cairenn | yes, yes it does |
| 17:09.09 | Osagasu | I hate you. |
| 17:09.19 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.32 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 17:09.32 | cladhaire | i can skin in flight form |
| 17:09.32 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 17:09.32 | Elkano | hmmm... I don't have BE yet because of CE, too ^^ |
| 17:09.32 | Osagasu | That's okay, I still 6 Hearthstones! |
| 17:09.44 | Osagasu | bwahahaha! |
| 17:10.08 | Osagasu | And water. _.- |
| 17:10.11 | Osagasu | **_._ |
| 17:10.45 | Osagasu | I just noticed something interesting |
| 17:11.03 | Osagasu | Arcane blast, for the first cast in the series, is the most mana efficient spell in a mage's arsenal. |
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| 17:11.33 | nomenquis | the tooltip is broken, have a look at how much mana it really uses :( |
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| 17:11.51 | Osagasu | That's why I said first cast. |
| 17:12.00 | Osagasu | Everything after that one... |
| 17:12.13 | nomenquis | no, the first cast uses much more mana than the tooltip states |
| 17:13.21 | nomenquis | iirc the first cast is nearly 400 mana ... |
| 17:15.36 | seth___ | I noticed the latest Hunter nerf messed up my play style and with this destoryed another reason why I started my Hunter -.-"" |
| 17:16.10 | nomenquis | what did they break? |
| 17:17.11 | seth___ | They didn't really break soemthing in game but they changed arcane shot which was pretty important to me, I used it a lot in PVE and it's just a waste of mana now. |
| 17:17.32 | seth___ | They reduced the total damage by 9% or so and converted a bit of the arcance dmg to normal dmg |
| 17:17.50 | nomenquis | oh, didn't even notice that with my hunter :) |
| 17:18.31 | nomenquis | but using normal damange instead of arcane sucks a lot :( |
| 17:20.04 | seth___ | I had a Marksmanship build and even "payed" the 5 Points for a 1 seonc reduction on Arcance shot and yeha that just wasn't worth anything now. I#ve always been doing moderate damage because my Gear sucks (never been to high lv instances) so I didn't really had a chance. So I changed to Beast Master I'll see how it works out... |
| 17:20.47 | nomenquis | I've been a bm before the 2.0 changes (now mm), gotta try bm now. but imo only worth after level 62 |
| 17:21.07 | nomenquis | because then you have 50% focus regen on your pet when you crit. |
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| 17:24.47 | seth___ | After this nerf it really got me thinking about what Blizz changed on the Hunter. They took away everything that made it worth huntin for rare animls and now they even started nerfingthe skills because some dudes started whining that Hunters did to much dmg in PVP and there wasn't ever someone thinking about that a hunter has quite some expenses. Like Arrows (Filling up a 16 Quiver costs >1G (Buying the best arrows I can right now would |
| 17:25.27 | seth___ | make it cost 2G 50S) and you got to byu food for you pet. I got fishing 300 but can't find fish that statisfies my cat for more than 20 minutes) |
| 17:25.47 | nomenquis | cook the food, did you try that? |
| 17:26.54 | seth___ | Yeha I did but still its like 20-30 Minutes and then byby back to the bad mood. Dunno maybe I'm doing something wrong or it's because I got my cat at level 10 and didn't ever change it since then. |
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| 17:59.49 | Legorol | could someone please type a line with my nick in it? testing highlights.. |
| 18:01.59 | TonyD | no, Legorol i will not type your nickname |
| 18:02.22 | Legorol | hm, odd that came out yellow |
| 18:02.29 | Legorol | can you try again? :D |
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| 18:02.43 | TonyD | no, Legorol i will not type your nickname again |
| 18:02.50 | Legorol | that's better, thanks |
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| 18:09.51 | kaso | TonyD! i think he conned you into it! |
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| 18:13.38 | Industrial | Is there a macro to get your pet to come back to you or attack? |
| 18:13.50 | Industrial | Would mean i no longer need a pet bar |
| 18:14.45 | zenzelezz | there's /petfollow and /petattack, not sure if those would suffice |
| 18:16.14 | Industrial | cant do that in a macro so I have it on one button? |
| 18:16.23 | Industrial | i have q attack shift-q petattack now |
| 18:16.34 | Industrial | but I use a macro for /petattack + Hunter's Mark |
| 18:16.39 | Industrial | called "grind" :P |
| 18:16.48 | zenzelezz | not sure I understand you now |
| 18:17.00 | zenzelezz | but there already is a "pet attack" keybinding in the default UI' |
| 18:17.38 | Industrial | ues I have that on shift-q, can I make it so that it sends/recalls pet with one button? |
| 18:17.45 | Industrial | yes* |
| 18:18.10 | zenzelezz | not that I know of... could be, but sounds a lot like logic |
| 18:18.14 | zenzelezz | and you know 2.0 and logic |
| 18:19.56 | Industrial | :( |
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| 18:46.25 | Osagasu | nomenquis, I just got around to casting it. The tooltip is right, it's only 100 something |
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| 18:48.16 | Esamynn | morning all |
| 18:51.03 | nomenquis | hmmm, are you really sure? perhaps they fixed it in the last patch |
| 18:51.13 | nomenquis | before 2.0.5 and in the beta it was wrong |
| 18:52.12 | nomenquis | what i'd love to see is a cast time reduction after say 3 casts so the spell is instant :) |
| 18:52.23 | nomenquis | this would be really cool for pvp ^^ |
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| 19:00.16 | Thrae | Does the default interface allow you to compare an item on the auction house with an item you have equipped by giving you two tooltips side-by-side? |
| 19:00.25 | Thrae | My Mom swears it does now. |
| 19:02.03 | seebs | No. |
| 19:02.07 | seebs | That's EquipCompare. |
| 19:02.24 | Thrae | seebs: My Mom doesn't use addons. |
| 19:02.30 | seebs | WTF. |
| 19:02.43 | seebs | I have no clue, then. I've certainly wanted to do that, but it didn't happen until I added EquipCompare. |
| 19:03.09 | Thrae | Hmmm...maybe her memory is faulty in her old age (40) |
| 19:06.10 | kaso | Im sure AH does have a compare tooltip ? |
| 19:06.39 | kaso | ShoppingTooltip1 if i recall correctly |
| 19:06.43 | Legorol | Thrae: yes the default UI does it |
| 19:06.45 | Legorol | only at the AH |
| 19:06.50 | Legorol | it always has, ever since release |
| 19:06.57 | Legorol | oh and at vendors too |
| 19:07.09 | Legorol | EquipComare extends that to provide the comparison in other places like bags, quest log etc. |
| 19:08.22 | seebs | Oh! |
| 19:08.26 | seebs | I never realized this! |
| 19:08.55 | Legorol | it's because the default UI was doing it at the AH and vendors that i thought of making EQC in the first place :o) |
| 19:08.59 | Legorol | i wanted it elsewhere too |
| 19:09.21 | krka | EQC = <3 |
| 19:09.39 | Legorol | yeah it's a bit outdated though, i should fix some outstanding bugs at some point |
| 19:09.52 | Legorol | it also needs a complete rewrite for the new tooltip APIs |
| 19:10.06 | Legorol | i know complete code rewrites are bad idea, but this is for fun, so i'll probably do that at some point |
| 19:10.26 | tingle | someone here know some xml and lua codeing and have ideas on how to do stuff ( im wanting to creat a leveling guid addon ) someone that i can talk to and exchange ideas and ways the addon should be coded? |
| 19:10.49 | Legorol | no tingle i think you won't find many people here who know anything about xml or lua |
| 19:10.53 | Legorol | just kidding :D |
| 19:11.03 | tingle | :/ |
| 19:11.29 | tingle | i need someone that i can talk to a bit |
| 19:11.42 | Thrae | Legorol: Does EquipCompare take advantage of the already existing functionality from auction house and vendors then? |
| 19:11.54 | Legorol | tingle: the best way is to ask away in the channel at large |
| 19:12.03 | Legorol | you'll get an answer if anyone's around that can hep |
| 19:12.15 | Legorol | Thrae: nope, because the existing functionality is crap and limited |
| 19:12.26 | Legorol | there is a restricted API for doing a comparison at teh AH and vendor only |
| 19:12.36 | Legorol | EquipCompare does the comparison from scratch in other places |
| 19:12.46 | Thrae | Ah, that sucks. It should be default, period. |
| 19:13.09 | Thrae | Tooltips have always gotten the short end of the stick...I should know |
| 19:13.56 | Legorol | well it could be optional |
| 19:14.05 | Legorol | but it'd be nice to have at least extra API |
| 19:14.22 | Legorol | anyway, gtg |
| 19:36.43 | kaso | did loatheb ever get fixed or did blizzard not care due to tbc? Or has noone checked? |
| 19:36.58 | foxlit | he was broken? |
| 19:37.24 | kaso | I'd describe it as that, he was 5manned if you recall |
| 19:37.57 | kaso | due to them changing VE to magic and not changing the fact that he still only dispels curses |
| 19:38.11 | Thrae | Hmm. I think the unitId for your assist shouldn't be called "assId" |
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| 19:52.37 | Tain | Wow it just took me an hour to go from 300 to 310 Fishing. That's a little excessive. |
| 19:58.09 | AnduinLothar | took my 600 gold to get to 335 BS |
| 19:58.21 | AnduinLothar | from 300 |
| 19:58.42 | AnduinLothar | Mining takes forever to lvl |
| 19:59.21 | nomenquis | well, don't do it in the outlands! i've gone to 33x in some hours just farmin rich thorium in epl. and it's selling like crazy (the ore) |
| 19:59.33 | AnduinLothar | this is true |
| 19:59.45 | AnduinLothar | but thorium doesn't lvl after 320 |
| 19:59.47 | nomenquis | especially since there are practically no other miners in epl |
| 20:00.10 | nomenquis | mining? i went >320 with rich (!) thorium veins |
| 20:00.23 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 20:00.38 | AnduinLothar | well w/e i'm at 350 now |
| 20:00.46 | nomenquis | :) |
| 20:00.54 | AnduinLothar | need rich adamantium |
| 20:00.57 | nomenquis | aw, on my server i've made some hundered g with thorium ore |
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| 20:03.40 | Corrodias | and that is impressive, |
| 20:03.52 | Corrodias | but sadly i've made 300g just from questing and haven't tried selling any skins or herbs yet |
| 20:04.34 | Corrodias | i think that perhaps part of why i found my hunter to be tedious was because he was an engineer. i think i just do not like the production tradeskills. |
| 20:04.59 | Corrodias | it just took too much time and effort to produce crap that wasn't useful, and won't be useful until high levels of the profession |
| 20:05.02 | nomenquis | engineering sucks now. now cool stuff that works >level 60 anymore :( |
| 20:05.23 | nomenquis | no cool stuff, not now cool stuff :) |
| 20:07.37 | Corrodias | http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/inner_city_teacher_inspires |
| 20:07.50 | MageRooster | Man, I just found a useful BoE blue on the AH for less than $TEXAS GP. |
| 20:08.03 | MageRooster | The gil farmers must have left our server for greener pastures. |
| 20:08.19 | Corrodias | my new mage is a Tailor, but i expect it to be perhaps a less stressful profession than Engineering because i don't have to go mining for materials. maybe. |
| 20:08.38 | Corrodias | if not, well, at least she can make dresses and shirts. |
| 20:09.02 | MageRooster | Tailoring's biggest drawback is that you tend to end up partnering it to enchanting, and enchanting is :( to raise. |
| 20:09.44 | Corrodias | fortunately, i chose herbalism as my second, although i'm not sure to what end |
| 20:09.53 | Corrodias | just because i like picking flowers, mostly |
| 20:10.52 | Corrodias | all the different kinds of rocks took too much space on my poor hunter! |
| 20:10.57 | MageRooster | I'd probably end up with skinning, just because it's incredibly easy to raise and a steady supply of easy money. |
| 20:11.14 | Corrodias | herbalism is easy, too, actually. they're both good choices. |
| 20:11.17 | Corrodias | my main has both. |
| 20:11.27 | MageRooster | Herbalism is no worse than mining. >.> |
| 20:12.37 | Corrodias | indeed. perhaps it's even better, because you don't get various kinds of stone along with your herbs like you do with ores, so you don't have to spend as much bag space to carry the results. |
| 20:12.54 | MageRooster | And everyone loves potions. :P |
| 20:13.12 | MageRooster | In any case, I'm enjoying jewelcrafting. |
| 20:13.21 | Corrodias | i do wonder if my mage should be an alchemist. i mean, it would be nice to have -one- high level alchemist in my character list. |
| 20:13.23 | MageRooster | Even with the glut, my stuff sells well. |
| 20:13.29 | MageRooster | And what doesn't sell goes to my disenchanter. |
| 20:13.41 | Corrodias | only my low level rogue is an alchemist at the moment :/ |
| 20:14.02 | MageRooster | You need to learn the trasmutation recipes on your mage... then you can be the Full Metal alchemist. |
| 20:14.15 | Corrodias | since i hate mining/engineering so much, maybe i'll switch my hunter to herbs/alch when i start playing him again |
| 20:14.32 | MageRooster | Hah, you're going to have to pay for your ammo again... unless you produce it on an alt. |
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| 20:15.08 | Corrodias | i don't think he was high enough to start -making- ammo. |
| 20:15.20 | Corrodias | can't say as i mind paying a paltry fee for arrows, though |
| 20:15.42 | Corrodias | i just forget to refill them, or run out during instances |
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| 20:20.38 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.48 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/5575 |
| 20:20.50 | kaso | shoot |
| 20:21.55 | kaso | well thats certainly complicated |
| 20:22.46 | Mike-N-Go | If it was not for that space in 'trade goods'... lol |
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| 20:30.49 | Mike-N-Go | These pattern mating things are difficult to grasp, I am unable to find what I need. |
| 20:31.07 | Mike-N-Go | I will explain what I am trying to do.. |
| 20:31.47 | Mike-N-Go | I currently have 2 slash commands where the data is altered. |
| 20:31.52 | cladhaire | local args = {} for match in string.gmatch(msg, "[^%s]+") do table.insert(args, match) end |
| 20:31.59 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.06 | Mike-N-Go | And /amd itemtype |
| 20:33.08 | Mike-N-Go | After 'all' is a name for recipient for the all keybinding. |
| 20:33.54 | Mike-N-Go | After 'itemtype' is a valid item type: armor, trade goods, quest, etc. |
| 20:34.03 | tingle | ok any ideas on how i should program this, the frame is a box like a chat frame where the current quest or step is shown, to the left is a button that turn is on and to the left one that turns it off, in the mittle at the bottom is a button that when you click on it a window opens down that tells detailed description of what to do, and last but not least dotes/notes shows up on the map that shows where to go next... |
| 20:34.26 | Mike-N-Go | Then the recipient for the itemtype binding. |
| 20:37.03 | Mike-N-Go | Any help on what the pattern matching would be, would be apperated. |
| 20:37.10 | Mike-N-Go | cladhaire: What is that you last typed? |
| 20:37.19 | cladhaire | thats a simple tokenizer |
| 20:37.26 | cladhaire | will break up a message and put it into a table fr you to parse |
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| 20:37.36 | cladhaire | swo you can do arg[1] == "itemtype" and arg[2] == "dagger" |
| 20:37.57 | cladhaire | etc. |
| 20:39.10 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, you meant that for me? |
| 20:39.24 | cladhaire | if its useful |
| 20:39.25 | cladhaire | =) |
| 20:39.30 | cladhaire | its very basic, but it helps when parsing |
| 20:39.47 | Mike-N-Go | Well, for all I know you just said it, should have added some notes, lol. |
| 20:39.54 | cladhaire | hehehe |
| 20:40.31 | Mike-N-Go | Yah, a look up table. |
| 20:40.37 | Mike-N-Go | So, where would I put it? |
| 20:41.05 | Widgertick | In your handler for slash commands. =O |
| 20:41.18 | Mike-N-Go | But where in there? |
| 20:41.49 | cladhaire | at the beginning |
| 20:41.58 | cladhaire | then you can use arg[i] to parse it. |
| 20:42.13 | cladhaire | since you know what to expect |
| 20:42.23 | cladhaire | you can even get tricky and have specific handlers based on arg[1] |
| 20:42.32 | cladhaire | and then you can unpack the rest of arg |
| 20:43.14 | cladhaire | its not necessarilyt he best way to do things, bt it certainly helps.. and since we're talking slash commands, you can afford to code them easier =) |
| 20:43.56 | Sstixrud | question: I have an action bar that I want to behave like any other action bar UNLESS i == "true". If i is true I want clicking a button on that frame to report back the frame+button id... any ideas on how to do that? |
| 20:45.08 | cladhaire | you can't. |
| 20:45.20 | cladhaire | you'd need to change the button setup on each change of i |
| 20:45.30 | cladhaire | unless we're talking out of combat |
| 20:46.55 | Sstixrud | out of combat is fine, I really dont want to change the setup of the button I just want to know what button it is... here is the deal I want to have a "button config mode" as part of the config ui that allows the user see how each button is configured (OnClick) and then change configurable options |
| 20:47.25 | Sstixrud | a user wouldnt be doing this during combat by any means :) |
| 20:47.26 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks cladhaire. |
| 20:47.31 | cladhaire | np |
| 20:47.41 | cladhaire | Then you can use the postclick handler of the button to change the attributes. |
| 20:47.47 | cladhaire | and the postclick to reset them |
| 20:47.50 | cladhaire | its hacky, but woudl work |
| 20:48.44 | Sstixrud | I got the idea from Trinitbars, it has a "keybind" mode where u move your mouse over a button and then click any key (including mouse) and it will bind a shortcut key to that button |
| 20:48.58 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 20:49.12 | cladhaire | that's how you'd do it, if its say, a keybinding, or somethign liek that |
| 20:49.13 | Sstixrud | but I looked at the trinitybar code and it looks way more involved than I need |
| 20:49.19 | cladhaire | you may just be able to do it with modes tho |
| 20:49.26 | cladhaire | enter the mode, turn off buttons, etc. |
| 20:51.29 | Sstixrud | I actully don't even plan on changing the buttons, I am just going to store a table of attributes ABOUT that button. I.e. if the user says this button should be hidden this mode will save that information. |
| 20:51.53 | Sstixrud | I can then read the table during other EVENTS and act off the information |
| 20:52.17 | Sstixrud | clad how would "modes |
| 20:52.19 | Sstixrud | work? |
| 20:52.33 | cladhaire | i dont know.. i guess it would be better if you tell us what you want to do, not howyou want to implement it =) |
| 20:52.42 | cladhaire | i have to go in a few, but someone should be able to help if I can't =) |
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| 20:54.18 | Sstixrud | I want to be able to click on an actionbutton and have a frame pop up displaying information stored about that button (i.e. this button is a damage spell, curse, heal etc..) |
| 20:54.43 | Sstixrud | I want this information to be pre-setup by the user via a config interface |
| 20:55.01 | Sstixrud | I need a way to let the user select which button they are defining attributes for |
| 20:55.59 | Sstixrud | so if I drag a heal over time spell to my actionframe, I could then /config ui go to the attribute screen and then click the button, this would display the buttons active attributes and let me change them |
| 20:56.39 | Sstixrud | none of the attributes would need to alter the actual button attributes tho, i.e. the info can be stored in a table for later use |
| 21:06.59 | tingle | got a question, why does this border: edgeFile="Interface\CastingBar\UI-CastingBar-Border-Small look so screwed, its like the border is made out of a bunch of pices of the blp... |
| 21:08.48 | tingle | ?? |
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| 21:13.08 | tingle | any ideas? |
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| 21:24.38 | tingle | hi, could someone help me with somethin |
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| 21:37.10 | tingle | is anyone here ? |
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| 21:39.38 | tingle | why doesnt the anchor work? i put in TOP and its in the mittle of my screen... |
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| 21:44.16 | tingle | does anchoring work? becuase i have the line <Anchor point="TOP"/> but the frame isnt at the top of my screen its in the mittle... |
| 21:45.58 | tingle | ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 21:46.06 | Tain | I was going to try to help until you did that. |
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| 21:46.12 | tingle | is no one reading |
| 21:47.00 | tingle | ive gone through 2 channels and typed exatly that question, no one answered no chatting and nothing |
| 21:47.00 | Tain | Sometimes people are not there. |
| 21:47.00 | Tain | Sometimes people are doing other things. |
| 21:47.00 | Tain | Sometimes people just don't know the answer to your specific question. |
| 21:47.05 | tingle | there are so many people in the channel |
| 21:47.20 | tingle | ok, do you know why anchors dont work |
| 21:52.54 | tingle | ??? |
| 21:54.24 | Cairenn | sometimes people have a life beyond this channel |
| 21:54.39 | TonyD | well, on WoW, yeah |
| 21:54.44 | bleetah | ‽ |
| 21:54.54 | Cairenn | spamming stuff like that will only a) make folks ignore you and b) keep it up and it'll get you kicked out of the channel |
| 21:54.56 | TonyD | i'm a rogue in my real life |
| 21:55.25 | tingle | i see you guys are here dont anyof you know why anchors dont work? want teh whole xml code? |
| 21:55.25 | Cairenn | one of the rules in here is that you treat one another with respect ... crap like that isn't respectful |
| 21:55.34 | TonyD | i don't |
| 21:55.52 | Guillotine | tingle: yes please. pastey it |
| 21:56.03 | TonyD | but it's debatable whther anyone owes you the response you're looking for |
| 21:57.07 | tingle | http://wowi.pastey.net/5579 |
| 21:57.31 | Corrodias | you anchor to other frames, as far as i'm aware, not parts of the screen |
| 21:57.39 | Guillotine | what corrodias said |
| 21:57.53 | Corrodias | although uiparent or the worldframe might work as anchor points for "the screen", i really wouldn't know about that |
| 21:58.55 | tingle | then how i anchor that to the top of the screen`? |
| 21:59.30 | bleetah | ⸘ |
| 21:59.32 | Corrodias | maybe you can anchor to the top of worldframe. just a guess. |
| 22:00.13 | Thrae | Use screen coordinates instead of relative coordinates (such as for GetCursorPosition): frame:SetPoint("BOTTOM", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", x / UIParent:GetScale() / frame:GetScale(), y / UIParent:GetScale() / frame:GetScale() ). I use this in TinyTip and it works fine. |
| 22:00.24 | Legorol | to anchor a frame to the top of the "screen", you should anchor it to UIParent |
| 22:00.35 | tingle | how i do that |
| 22:00.47 | Legorol | <Anchor point="TOP"/> in the XML file is sufficient for that |
| 22:00.53 | Legorol | provided that UIParent is the parent of your frame |
| 22:01.03 | Legorol | you must declare your frame in the XML along the lines of: |
| 22:01.14 | Legorol | <Frame name="blahblah" parent="UIParent" ...other attributes...> |
| 22:01.22 | Legorol | note the parent="UIParent" part |
| 22:01.45 | Cairenn | bleetah: what the heck is ⸘ that you keep pasting? :p |
| 22:02.09 | Legorol | Cairenn: it's a UTF_8 string of some sort, i will try to convert it |
| 22:02.19 | tingle | note the .. ? where do i note something in the anchor? |
| 22:02.30 | Cairenn | yeah, I got that, I was just wondering if he could tell me what it was ;) |
| 22:02.41 | Legorol | Cairenn: hehe i am trying to figure it out |
| 22:03.01 | Legorol | hm, i don't seem to be able to |
| 22:03.18 | tingle | what do i add where to note the parent ? |
| 22:03.21 | Legorol | tingle: it's an English expression |
| 22:03.30 | Legorol | "note the XXX" is an english phrase meaning "be careful about XXX" |
| 22:03.39 | tingle | oh |
| 22:03.58 | Legorol | as in "take note of XXX" or "notice the XXX" |
| 22:04.06 | tingle | so i should delete the parent |
| 22:04.12 | Legorol | *sigh* |
| 22:04.13 | Legorol | no |
| 22:04.19 | Legorol | i am saying the opposite |
| 22:04.32 | tingle | but its already there |
| 22:04.35 | Legorol | you *have to* have the parent="UIParent" attribute in the <Frame> element |
| 22:04.45 | Legorol | then you have it correctly already |
| 22:05.00 | Legorol | what's the current pastey in use? |
| 22:05.03 | bleetah | Cairenn: interrobang and gnaborretni |
| 22:05.09 | tingle | http://wowi.pastey.net/5579 |
| 22:05.51 | kaso | interrobang is the best punctuation mark ever |
| 22:06.02 | Legorol | tingle: that looks correct to me |
| 22:06.10 | bleetah | Cairenn: if your UTF is working correctly, you'll see the interrobang. 'Coz the gnaborretni isn't official UTF yet (afaik), you'll prolly just see junk :P |
| 22:06.10 | Legorol | however, i see that you set movable="true" |
| 22:06.26 | Cairenn | I just see a square |
| 22:06.28 | Legorol | tingle: one explanation that might be the source of your problem is that the frame got moved, and WoW saved the new position |
| 22:06.38 | Legorol | try it by removing the movable="true" part and see what happens |
| 22:06.49 | tingle | just did |
| 22:06.52 | tingle | now it works :D |
| 22:06.54 | tingle | cool |
| 22:07.03 | bleetah | Cairenn: the font you're using has insufficient UTF fallback support |
| 22:07.22 | bleetah | (at least, I think that's how windows works, you'll prolly want to talk to Kirkburn about that one ;-) |
| 22:07.36 | Kirkburn | God no |
| 22:08.02 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 22:08.07 | Legorol | tingle: see, i told you there is no-one here who knows XML and Lua :P |
| 22:08.26 | tingle | now, i got another question... :P what is the best way to make a leveling guid that used mapnotes and puts the current step what to do in the frame, and a ddescription of the current step |
| 22:09.05 | tingle | and if you complete or accept a quest it changes the current step and stuff |
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| 22:09.55 | tingle | any ideas how i could do such a thing |
| 22:10.51 | Guillotine | tingle: still the same answer as last time. Reusable code. If you want custom stuff for each, its going to be giant |
| 22:11.16 | Guillotine | if you just show coordinates/mark them on Cartographer/simple explanation, you can do it relatively well |
| 22:13.09 | tingle | what does cartographer do exactly |
| 22:13.15 | tingle | and how can it help me |
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| 22:14.14 | Guillotine | basically, it will let you easily mark points on the map |
| 22:14.17 | Legorol | Cairenn and bleetah: if I am not mistaken, the character that bleetah keeps pasting is U+182E, a mongolian character |
| 22:14.48 | tingle | ah ok |
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| 22:15.11 | Legorol | you can see what it is in this file: http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1800.pdf |
| 22:15.34 | Legorol | look for the column with heading 182 and the row with heading E |
| 22:15.39 | Legorol | bleetah, is that correct |
| 22:31.00 | Sstixrud | if I inherit SecureActionButtonTemplate but then create a custom <OnClick> with if then statements what is the syntax to call the default behvior (i.e. CastSpell)? |
| 22:31.25 | Mikma | ok mages, what do you think about this build? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=R0xVf0fzZZVcGhs0xsVox |
| 22:39.51 | bleetah | ‽ is definately interrobang |
| 22:40.05 | bleetah | no idea about what happens to ⸘ as I'm not seeing it here properly either |
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| 22:49.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | the interroband is working, whats the other one? :O |
| 22:53.38 | Guillotine | hmm. what exactly does the error 'table index is nil' mean? Apparently it doesn't mean what I thought it meant, because this code looks perfectly fine o.O |
| 22:54.14 | Guillotine | I'm not getting any errors except with the the RDX bug tracker (which, annoyingly, you can't disable) that catches errors that don't cause normal error windows |
| 22:57.56 | Sstixrud | It appears one cannot manually call SecureActionButton_OnClick(self, button); ... is there no way have an if then statement for a <OnClick> actionbutton event that optionally Casts the spell? |
| 22:58.52 | foxlit | Not in combat, no. |
| 22:59.27 | Sstixrud | I dont want to do it in combat, I just want to be able to have a simple if ConfigWindow:IsVisable then get button info else cast spell |
| 23:00.12 | foxlit | <PreClick> ? |
| 23:00.46 | Sstixrud | How does preclick work? |
| 23:01.02 | foxlit | It's called before onclick |
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| 23:01.55 | Sstixrud | oh, but both are called by mouse click? Is there a way to supresse the OnClick from PreClick? |
| 23:03.04 | bleetah | ⸘ gnaborretni (tentatively U+2E18) |
| 23:03.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | so its an upside down interrobang or something? |
| 23:04.23 | Sstixrud | woo, foxlit thanks preclick seems to work. Now I just have to find a way to supress OnClick when in button config mode |
| 23:04.57 | Sstixrud | I guess I could change RegisterMouseClicks to like button5 while config window isVisable |
| 23:05.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.21 | bleetah | Mr_Rabies2: yup |
| 23:05.58 | zenzelezz | there's a sign for irony? |
| 23:06.47 | bleetah | eg ⸘wtf‽ in, say, Spanish |
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| 23:06.59 | zenzelezz | oh, upside down questionmark? |
| 23:07.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | <zenzelezz> there's a sign for irony? |
| 23:07.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_mark |
| 23:08.49 | bleetah | some languages have inverted ! and ? at the start, and the 'usual' ones at the the end making the complete statement. English just has it at the end (I think Spanish is one, someone better versed in such things could prolly tell you for sure). The gnaborretni is a creation so such languages can utilise the interrobang's function. |
| 23:08.54 | zenzelezz | peculiar, never heard that before Mr_Rabies2 |
| 23:09.44 | bleetah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm_mark |
| 23:10.15 | bleetah | " sarcasm mark exists in the Ethiopic languages" heh |
| 23:12.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's subtlety? |
| 23:12.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | or should i say |
| 23:13.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | [THE WORD OR PHRASE FOLLOWING THIS IS SARCASM]What is Subtlety?[THE WORD OF PHRASE PRECEDING THIS IS SARCASM] |
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| 23:14.32 | TonyD | what's sarcasm? |
| 23:14.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | a miserable little pile of secrets |
| 23:14.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | but enough talk, have at you! |
| 23:15.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait, that's a man, nevermind |
| 23:15.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 23:15.25 | purl | What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc |
| 23:15.39 | zenzelezz | you seem to like that factoid |
| 23:15.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes i do |
| 23:15.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love castlevania |
| 23:16.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | psycho mantis knows |
| 23:16.10 | zenzelezz | I've no idea what that is |
| 23:16.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes, he knows |
| 23:16.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | a platformer game of sorts |
| 23:17.28 | Tain | Playing through SotN again on my PSP. |
| 23:17.36 | Tain | Just got to the inverted castle. |
| 23:18.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 23:18.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want it on xbox live arcade |
| 23:18.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | like im getting rhat the day they release it |
| 23:18.41 | Tain | Yeah |
| 23:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes rhat |
| 23:27.18 | groll | anyone a number cruncher and know's his +to hit stuff etc? :P |
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| 23:29.01 | groll | i guess not :P |
| 23:29.35 | bleetah | interrobang's are fun things to mess with for your MSN contacts.. set your friendly name to ‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ and watch them cry |
| 23:30.08 | tingle | i want to make a leveling guid addon, i have the knowlage about how to get to level 70 in less than 9 days but im new to makeing user interfaces, i dont know where to start or what typ of codeing i should do |
| 23:30.59 | bleetah | ⸘‽ |
| 23:31.44 | tingle | would the first thing to do be to creat a frame where all the info goes into? |
| 23:32.51 | tingle | anyone here abel to help me out with this stuff |
| 23:33.00 | tingle | or tell me what direction to goto |
| 23:33.29 | bleetah | not me, i know enough to realise it's a complete minefield, and I don't have enough time at the moment to traverse it. sorry. |
| 23:34.08 | tingle | i dont want someone to code it that i want to learn myself, but what direction to go and what would be best |
| 23:34.45 | Sstixrud | Is there a way to disable OnClick without disabling PreClick.. it looks like btn:Disable() stops both from functioning |
| 23:35.16 | TonyD | i got a macro scenario |
| 23:35.46 | TonyD | say i have a rogue, and I want to rend a target other than my current target, without switching |
| 23:36.18 | TonyD | wanna bind a macro to rend the unit my mouse is over |
| 23:36.44 | TonyD | wihtout switch targets |
| 23:36.44 | foxlit | Rogues rend? |
| 23:36.55 | foxlit | Always thought that was warriors |
| 23:37.16 | TonyD | er, meant the rogue one where you stun em for 2 seconds |
| 23:37.24 | TonyD | heh |
| 23:37.40 | TonyD | can't recall the name of it atm |
| 23:37.53 | zenzelezz | Gouge or something? |
| 23:38.26 | tingle | someone abel to tell me where to start with my project? |
| 23:38.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cast [target=mouseover] Gouge |
| 23:39.28 | TonyD | gogue, yeah |
| 23:39.40 | TonyD | gouge |
| 23:39.49 | TonyD | would that switch my targetm tho? |
| 23:40.16 | zenzelezz | don't think so |
| 23:40.19 | zenzelezz | try it :-p |
| 23:44.45 | tingle | someone abel to tell me where to start with my project? |
| 23:45.03 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 23:45.06 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 23:46.16 | tingle | did that |
| 23:47.04 | tingle | and i made a frame where the info is suppose to go into, |
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| 23:47.18 | tingle | wait here was my original first post: |
| 23:47.26 | tingle | i want to make a leveling guid addon, i have the knowlage about how to get to level 70 in less than 9 days but im new to makeing user interfaces, i dont know where to start or what typ of codeing i should do |
| 23:48.24 | tingle | in the addon is also supose to come mapnotes that only apear to the correct quest |
| 23:49.00 | tingle | so any ideas? |
| 23:49.00 | Mikma | tuller needs to come online :P |
| 23:49.24 | tingle | tuller? |
| 23:49.34 | Mikma | yeap, Tuller |
| 23:49.40 | tingle | what does he do |
| 23:49.47 | Mikma | Sage, Bongos.. |
| 23:49.57 | tingle | or how can he help me :P |
| 23:50.14 | Mikma | i have no idea how he can help YOU but he can help me |
| 23:50.30 | tingle | ^^# |
| 23:51.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | <TonyD> would that switch my targetm tho? |
| 23:51.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 23:52.31 | TonyD | yeah, just tried it |
| 23:52.56 | TonyD | didn't notice if the combo points disappear from original target, i'd assume yes |
| 23:54.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | tingle, you could have it use Atlasquest as a base, if it's updated for bc, that is |
| 23:54.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3578/atlasquest/ |
| 23:55.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | since i'm guessing a huge part of it is questing |
| 23:56.23 | tingle | yes |
| 23:56.31 | tingle | um what does atlasquest do |
| 23:57.04 | bleetah | added Gazmik's Latest Updates feeds to planet-warcraft.com |
| 23:57.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait, it's only instance quests i think :x |
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| 23:57.32 | tingle | :P |
| 23:57.51 | tingle | well i have no lue where to start... |
| 23:57.56 | tingle | clue* |
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| 23:59.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i couldn't help you with that, i can't code for crap |