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| 00:19.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like the new and improved main menu music |
| 00:19.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | much more entertaining than the old one, even if it's mostly the same music with more on top of it |
| 00:19.24 | bleetah | meh, Ramones > intro music |
| 00:19.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i get about 5 times better in bgs if i'm listening to rhapsody/blind guardian/etc |
| 00:21.14 | tingle | got a question: is it illigal to sell a power leveling guid addon to a website? better said could my account get banned for it? |
| 00:21.26 | tingle | an addon that is self made |
| 00:22.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | what do you mean? |
| 00:23.10 | tingle | if i make a leveling guid addon (an addon that guides you step fto step from 1-70) and sell it to a website. is that against the terms of blizz |
| 00:24.41 | Malivil | Uhhhh |
| 00:24.55 | Malivil | I don't think so because the code isn't Blizzard's property |
| 00:24.59 | Malivil | But don't quote me on that |
| 00:25.11 | tingle | ^^ |
| 00:25.17 | bleetah | it *may* fall under the data mining provision |
| 00:25.43 | tingle | aye aye |
| 00:26.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd think it'd be fine Malivil, as long as it's done in lua, or in html for browsers, but the thing is |
| 00:26.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's no way you can control what happens to the addon |
| 00:27.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | as soon as you release it, it's pretty much open to whoever wants to steal it and give it out for free |
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| 00:31.53 | tingle | haben wir ein deutschen hier? |
| 00:32.31 | tingle | cann mir jemand sagen was das deutsche wort interesse in englisch is? |
| 00:32.41 | tingle | kann* |
| 00:32.44 | tingle | in english: |
| 00:32.49 | Malivil | interesse? |
| 00:32.59 | tingle | can someone tell me what the german word interesse in english is? |
| 00:33.04 | Malivil | interest |
| 00:33.09 | tingle | ah ok thx |
| 00:33.12 | Malivil | no problem |
| 00:34.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4k8YQP2IUg |
| 00:34.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 00:35.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahhahaha |
| 00:36.01 | zenzelezz | hm, I didn't notice the "enable sound in background" checkbox in the sound optinos |
| 00:36.04 | zenzelezz | *options |
| 00:36.06 | zenzelezz | nice |
| 00:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | random christopher lee out of nowhere |
| 00:37.00 | kahdgarxi | christopher lee owns |
| 00:37.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's pretty strange for a rhapsody song |
| 00:37.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | not christopher lee |
| 00:37.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but like |
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| 00:37.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | the song itself |
| 00:38.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | christopher lee just randomly pops into rhapsody songs all the time |
| 00:38.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | hes just lik |
| 00:38.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 00:38.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | hes just like hey doodz sup its count dooku |
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| 00:51.30 | Cairenn | hi MGiannetto :) |
| 00:51.33 | ckknight | anyone know how to get the current fullscreen frame? e.g. if the WorldMapFrame is open, UIParent is hidden, how would I know WorldMapFrame is open? |
| 00:51.47 | ckknight | but it has to be generic, i.e. not just for the WorldMapFrame |
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| 00:53.58 | ckknight | found it: GetFullScreenFrame() |
| 00:57.52 | Nom- | I still never saw any reply to this lol... does anyone know the scaling formula for Flash of Light ? :P |
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| 01:04.26 | Nom- | heh |
| 01:04.38 | Nom- | Paladin > Everything except Warlock and Priest, right? |
| 01:05.25 | bleetah | and Bruce Campbell |
| 01:05.39 | Malivil | ... |
| 01:06.45 | zenzelezz | for the love of god, why does my server go down at least once every day >:| |
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| 01:08.02 | zenzelezz | what do you know, it's all of battlegroup 3 again |
| 01:08.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | <bleetah> and Bruce Campbell |
| 01:08.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the man with the screaming brain was beyond disappointing |
| 01:08.31 | zenzelezz | with all these problems, I'll be surprised if they don't force-split the realms |
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| 01:09.07 | dogshep | ~auctstuff |
| 01:09.08 | purl | I know about the following topics (type one for more info): ~aucdeletesv, ~auctioneerbeta, ~auctnewicons, ~auctioneersvn, ~aucttrac, ~auctdoc, ~norgbug <nickname> |
| 01:11.17 | bleetah | chipx86: what's all this crap about? /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2) |
| 01:11.20 | bleetah | oops, mt |
| 01:11.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was expecting it to be standard issue bruce campbell cheesefest |
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| 01:11.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | but nooo, i got an hour of bad backstory that didnt matter and 30 mins of cheese |
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| 01:19.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | Corrodias, you there? |
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| 01:24.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | erm |
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| 01:31.25 | Corrodias | i'm here |
| 01:31.31 | Corrodias | now that you no longer want me |
| 01:35.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | um |
| 01:35.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | what was that addon you said you made that hid the exp bar? |
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| 01:36.13 | Corrodias | NoXPBar, which wasn't really a public release, but it was included in earlier versions of BasicExperienceBar |
| 01:36.37 | Corrodias | the pastey i linked to was basically the whole thing except a .toc that loaded it |
| 01:36.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah okay |
| 01:37.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | did it just hide it or did it make the rep bar full-sized too? |
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| 01:37.22 | Cairenn | my apologies for the join/leave/join spam, was helping the folks at gaim/guifications with some debugging |
| 01:38.02 | Corrodias | i'm not familiar with the rep bar. all it does is hide the xp bar, set its Show() method to do nothing so it won't automatically reshow, and unregister it for various events |
| 01:38.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 01:39.46 | Corrodias | since i don't use an action bar addon, i had to make something to get rid of the default xp bar |
| 01:40.39 | Corrodias | and yes, i feel like such a noob for not using an action bar addon |
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| 01:57.26 | bleetah | cladhaire: ping |
| 01:59.38 | Tem | Corrodias, don't |
| 01:59.41 | Tem | I don't use one |
| 02:01.21 | cladhaire | bleetah: Whats up? |
| 02:02.06 | Corrodias | yet tem does not feel like a noob? |
| 02:03.15 | bleetah | cladhaire: weird thread on the WoW UI forum.. ended up in a discussion about version of Scintilla being Blizz API aware, or similar... anyways, I noticed on wowi you do a full SciTE editor. As I'm on linux ... I'm kinda wondering what may be involved ;) |
| 02:03.41 | cladhaire | you just need to compile the lua binaries from cogwheel's distribution |
| 02:03.41 | bleetah | ergh, I've mixed some terms there, but you get the idea ;) |
| 02:03.56 | cladhaire | then wow.api file is horribly out of date unfortunately |
| 02:04.42 | cladhaire | but thats where it starts |
| 02:04.49 | cladhaire | the lua.properties file points to the api/wow.api file |
| 02:05.04 | cladhaire | and the lua syntax highlighting and calltips already existed in the distribution that mine is based off. |
| 02:06.41 | bleetah | I think you may have missed the important bit I said there.. I'm on linux. I'm just really after the properties 'n related stuff. I've got 87456 editors here that can use the engine, and a pre-compiled lua. are you saying I'd need a specific lua? |
| 02:11.07 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 02:11.13 | Nom- | In what kind of language, does 12 = 1 |
| 02:11.15 | Corrodias | uh oh. i forgot a spell. i need to find a place for "Spellsteal" on my bars, stat! |
| 02:11.19 | Nom- | *pulls hair out* |
| 02:11.21 | Corrodias | i think i can use the number 6, though |
| 02:11.30 | Corrodias | you mean 12 == 1? |
| 02:11.51 | Nom- | No, you don't use == for integer comparison in VB :( |
| 02:12.05 | Nom- | <-- building an application in Excel/Visual Basic :( |
| 02:12.21 | Corrodias | the horror... |
| 02:12.27 | Nom- | Somehow, VB's functions think that 12 is equal to 1 |
| 02:12.58 | Nom- | stupid thing, i bet it's only doing a 1 character long match *sigh* |
| 02:15.29 | ckknight | anyone know why GetGuildInfo("party1") doesn't work? |
| 02:15.37 | cladhaire | bleetah: You'd want cogwheel's lua |
| 02:15.40 | cladhaire | and i didn't miss the important part |
| 02:15.52 | cladhaire | i told you the lua.properties file references the api/wow.api file. |
| 02:16.06 | cladhaire | I don't have them readily available, perhaps someone can send them to you from their install |
| 02:16.16 | cladhaire | I won't have immediate opportunity to do so. |
| 02:16.25 | Nom- | finally fixed it |
| 02:16.28 | Nom- | stupid vb |
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| 02:20.54 | bleetah | cladhaire: rightio... I'll pass the compile time warning on to cogwheel |
| 02:21.08 | cladhaire | what warnings did you get, occ? |
| 02:21.12 | cladhaire | err ooc |
| 02:22.00 | Corrodias | in the ghettooooooooo |
| 02:22.59 | Corrodias | whoa, whoops. i should have gotten into queue while i was reading web pages |
| 02:23.07 | Corrodias | looks like about 12 minutes |
| 02:25.19 | bleetah | cladhaire: http://wowi.pastey.net/5351 .. afk for coffee, bbs |
| 02:25.31 | bleetah | cladhaire: I mailed cogwheel the info, fwiw |
| 02:26.07 | cladhaire | okay, i hadn't seen those |
| 02:26.09 | cladhaire | interestingf. |
| 02:27.13 | bleetah | gcc 4.1.1 |
| 02:33.13 | Nom- | hmm....blessing of light is a straight +60 heal on your flash of light, right? |
| 02:33.17 | Nom- | This is rank 1 i'm talkinga bout |
| 02:33.32 | Nom- | It's not the equivilent of having +60 healing gear, i'm hoping ;? |
| 02:34.11 | Saroz | +60? |
| 02:34.32 | Saroz | it's +400 healing to HL and +115 to FL |
| 02:34.40 | Saroz | straight healing |
| 02:35.34 | Nom- | I'm talking about rank 1 |
| 02:35.45 | Nom- | So it's straight extra +60 heals at rank 1, right? |
| 02:35.48 | Saroz | yes |
| 02:35.54 | Nom- | good stuff |
| 02:35.56 | Saroz | indeed |
| 02:36.13 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
| 02:36.30 | bleetah | nn clad|sleep, and apologies once again for the previous mixup/confusion |
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| 02:36.41 | clad|sleep | hehe np |
| 02:36.43 | clad|sleep | =) |
| 02:36.50 | clad|sleep | not worried about it, just want to make sur eyou get what you need :"P |
| 02:37.29 | Nom- | muahaha mass resurrection is going to be the best skill ever |
| 02:37.34 | bleetah | Cairenn: if I get crazy enough... would you be inteerested in hosting an unofficial linux forum on wowi? the sort of people who'd be looking at playing wow in linux would also probably be the sort of people using your site |
| 02:37.37 | Nom- | <3 Priests |
| 02:37.43 | Saroz | mass resurrection? |
| 02:37.58 | Nom- | Brings party members within 50 yards back to life with 500 health and 1150 mana. Cannot be cast when in combat. |
| 02:38.07 | Saroz | are you serious? |
| 02:38.08 | bleetah | as Blizz don't officially support it, us linux players can't even get a permanent sticky, let alone a forum to ourselves... our userbase gets spread terribly |
| 02:38.10 | Nom- | Level:70 |
| 02:38.10 | zenzelezz | grmbl... so my ISP somehow cuts my connection for 40 minutes, and by the time they let me back on... my WoW realm is down (again) |
| 02:38.13 | Nom- | Cast Time:1.50 |
| 02:38.17 | Saroz | haha awesome |
| 02:38.23 | Saroz | didnt know that |
| 02:38.23 | bleetah | zenzelezz: face it, the gods hate you :P |
| 02:38.27 | Nom- | zomg you didn't know about that? |
| 02:38.27 | Nom- | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=32841 |
| 02:38.41 | zenzelezz | bleetah: if only I was religious I would :-| |
| 02:39.02 | zenzelezz | in the lack of gods, I choose to believe it's and international conspiracy to let my guildies hit 70 before me |
| 02:39.26 | bleetah | nah, that's just common paranoia |
| 02:39.34 | Nom- | bahaha |
| 02:39.46 | Nom- | I started levelling my pally at the same time as a guildy |
| 02:39.51 | Nom- | He's 3 levels above me now :( |
| 02:40.03 | bleetah | "hippy, you think everything is a conspiracy" .. "everything IS a conspiracy" |
| 02:40.39 | zenzelezz | I saw a level 55 draenei shaman today. |
| 02:40.48 | zenzelezz | must've been grinding pretty good |
| 02:40.50 | Cairenn | bleetah: sure, no problem |
| 02:41.01 | bleetah | "Oh no" says Zaphod Beeblebrox, "That's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the universe has that" |
| 02:42.09 | zenzelezz | EU battlegroup 3 has to be the worst cluster ever |
| 02:44.07 | Shadowed | zenzelezz: Two of my guildies have 51 shamans yesterday |
| 02:44.13 | Shadowed | er, had |
| 02:44.21 | zenzelezz | nuts o_O |
| 02:44.31 | Shadowed | well one of our mages made 70 in 4 days |
| 02:44.35 | Shadowed | so people are a bit crazy |
| 02:44.55 | zenzelezz | think the first 70 on my server was a mage too |
| 02:45.04 | Nom- | I hit level 30 last night |
| 02:45.06 | Nom- | Almost 31 |
| 02:45.14 | Nom- | Going for 34 tonight, if I can grind quick enough |
| 02:45.30 | Shadowed | technically the first 70s was a druid and mage actually, they hit it within like 2 hours of eachother |
| 02:45.56 | zenzelezz | I'm a bit miffed at the lack of tank quest rewards |
| 02:46.01 | zenzelezz | it's all DPS/palajunk |
| 02:46.19 | Shadowed | you never had very good tanking gear options |
| 02:46.22 | Shadowed | most of it came from raiding |
| 02:46.40 | zenzelezz | yeah, but I had hoped for something else from BC |
| 02:46.42 | Nom- | Because everyone wants DPS gear to level |
| 02:46.46 | zenzelezz | not me |
| 02:46.47 | Nom- | Then tank gear when you hit 70 |
| 02:46.51 | Nom- | At least, that's what Blizzard assumes |
| 02:47.00 | Shadowed | it's a good assumintion anyway |
| 02:47.01 | zenzelezz | I'm leveling my warrior in prot spec still |
| 02:47.13 | Nom- | even as prot spec, you still want dps gear man |
| 02:47.13 | Shadowed | your gear is still usable at 70 |
| 02:47.19 | Nom- | boost your dps as best as possible |
| 02:47.23 | Shadowed | Nom- our MT is doing 60 -> 70 prot spec |
| 02:47.32 | Shadowed | i'm pretty sure he's grinding in like full tank gear too |
| 02:47.39 | zenzelezz | Nom-: nope, not me. I use tank gear, defensive stance |
| 02:47.43 | Nom- | Yeah, but even still, gear with a lot of +str and +agi is better for levelling, even in prot spec |
| 02:47.49 | zenzelezz | and yes, I realize I'm being weird about it |
| 02:47.50 | Shadowed | full tank gear |
| 02:47.51 | Shadowed | as in |
| 02:47.51 | Nom- | more dps = die quicker |
| 02:48.06 | Shadowed | STR/STA/Dodge/shield block/% block/defense =p |
| 02:48.11 | zenzelezz | 2 Dreadnaught, 4 Wrath, some others |
| 02:48.22 | zenzelezz | Bulwark and Remorse |
| 02:48.49 | Shadowed | tanking gear has always been something you got after you hit the 60/70 and you started getting it from dungeons |
| 02:49.12 | zenzelezz | don't get me wrong, I understand their decision |
| 02:49.18 | zenzelezz | I just wish there was a choice :) |
| 02:49.32 | Shadowed | well it makes sense |
| 02:49.44 | Shadowed | if you're tanking you'll be doing it in a group, in which case tank gear dropping in a group instance makes sense :p |
| 02:49.47 | zenzelezz | thing is, I'm a cheap bastard |
| 02:49.49 | Shadowed | at least they itemized DW warriors better |
| 02:49.56 | Nom- | If you want tank gear, you can always just run instances |
| 02:50.01 | zenzelezz | I didn't buy an epic mount until after BC; and I don't want to pay for respecs |
| 02:50.09 | Nom- | There's an entire guild on our server who is ahead of everyone else...they're just been running instances |
| 02:50.14 | Shadowed | I respecced like 6 times |
| 02:50.17 | zenzelezz | hehe, I do run instances a lot - it's great XP |
| 02:50.26 | Nom- | So it's not as if it's not a viable leveling alternatvie |
| 02:50.50 | Shadowed | did two blod furnace runs on my priest, first run made me realise why i hated pugs |
| 02:50.54 | Shadowed | blood even |
| 02:51.06 | zenzelezz | every time you PUG, god kills a kitten |
| 02:51.37 | zenzelezz | I only go with my guild, or close friends |
| 02:51.45 | Shadowed | not much choice, i stopped actively playing when TBC hit so my guilds all like 65-70s |
| 02:51.52 | Nom- | First person on our server to hit 70 was a mage yesterday :P |
| 02:51.55 | Shadowed | so when we do naxx this week, i'll be the only 60 they'll all be like 70 =( |
| 02:52.00 | Nom- | That boy has dedication lol |
| 02:52.20 | zenzelezz | you're still running 40-mans past 60? |
| 02:52.38 | Shadowed | we have a priest who is like 3 splinters from completing atiesh |
| 02:52.52 | zenzelezz | do you take C'thun/Kel? |
| 02:52.55 | Shadowed | and we had KT down pre-2.0 anyway, so it wont be hard |
| 02:53.03 | Shadowed | yeah, everything was cleared pre-2.0 |
| 02:53.05 | zenzelezz | well, then it sounds reasonable |
| 02:53.32 | zenzelezz | mine only took spider wing + first boss in each other wing, then 2.0 hit and we stopped raiding until BC |
| 02:53.38 | Shadowed | the naxx gear isn't that bad at 70 anyway, it's certainly not as amazing as it was at 60, but some dungeons have some items that are nice even now |
| 02:53.50 | zenzelezz | no doubt |
| 02:54.00 | Nom- | Trash clears from Naxx are going to be so easy at 70 |
| 02:54.03 | Nom- | :D |
| 02:54.07 | zenzelezz | but I heard someone say they'd get adjusted to (highest level player) + 3 or something |
| 02:54.14 | Shadowed | no that was a bug |
| 02:54.27 | Shadowed | or at least I assume it was, since patchwerk HSing for 14k couldn't be rightr |
| 02:55.09 | Nom- | well the bosses are *meant* to be considered 3 levels above you |
| 02:55.35 | Nom- | but their base damage etc shouldn't change |
| 02:55.39 | Nom- | just mitigation will be lower unless you got decent gear |
| 02:55.44 | Nom- | But, of course, blizz could always change this |
| 03:07.14 | Nom- | hmm |
| 03:07.22 | Nom- | it seems this Flash of Light scaling thing is a mystery |
| 03:14.23 | Saroz | thats why you have light's grace and holy light |
| 03:14.37 | Saroz | and Sanctified Light |
| 03:15.14 | Saroz | rank 7 FL is pretty pwn though |
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| 03:19.38 | zenzelezz | I'm enjoying Spell Reflection to the point where it's getting creepy |
| 03:20.10 | Nom- | no i mean |
| 03:20.20 | Nom- | see this thread |
| 03:20.20 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=69871653&sid=1 |
| 03:20.39 | Saroz | ah |
| 03:20.42 | Nom- | more specifcally my last post with some stats frmo TopScoreFu |
| 03:21.12 | Nom- | That's with absolutely no buffs at any time which boost my spell damage / healing |
| 03:21.46 | Saroz | there is an odd "bug" with Judgement of Light aswell |
| 03:21.51 | Saroz | it's suppose to heal for 81, but heals for 101 |
| 03:21.55 | Saroz | sometimes 111 |
| 03:21.58 | Saroz | very odd |
| 03:22.22 | Saroz | thought it was due to priests improved spirit, but not sure anymore |
| 03:22.25 | Saroz | anyway *shrug* |
| 03:22.49 | Saroz | did you try without any buffs at all? |
| 03:22.51 | Saroz | _at all_ |
| 03:29.27 | zenzelezz | Reth Reth Reth |
| 03:36.01 | zenzelezz | I have come to the conclusion that running through a town of level 70 elite enemies can have a negative impact on your health |
| 03:37.10 | Nom- | yeah |
| 03:37.23 | Nom- | i've tried it with just devotion aura and it's the same |
| 03:37.35 | Nom- | actually, i've tried with no buffs at all too, just after rezzing |
| 03:37.54 | Saroz | might be bugged talent |
| 03:37.56 | Saroz | *shrug* |
| 03:38.00 | Saroz | it didnt use to be like that anyway |
| 03:38.38 | Nom- | just trying to think what talent it would be |
| 03:38.46 | Nom- | the only one i have that would scale is +int |
| 03:45.22 | bleetah | the stormwind->thelsamar flightpath is *totally* whack... via morgan's vigil and thorium point |
| 03:45.38 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 03:45.43 | bleetah | I hope one day there'll be a 'sane route' and 'don't spare the horses, james' options for flights |
| 03:46.51 | bleetah | or just an API so we can load up which intermediates we want to pass through, 'coz the defaults are still very dumb in a dumber of places |
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| 03:46.59 | zenzelezz | I would have thought it would go SW->IF->Thelsamar |
| 03:47.00 | bleetah | er.. number |
| 03:47.15 | bleetah | zenzelezz: only if you don't have those other two.. once you get them... :/ |
| 03:47.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | haha, felreavers have a dance animation |
| 03:47.24 | zenzelezz | oh, I see |
| 03:47.28 | Nom- | reroll horde |
| 03:47.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | jazzercising |
| 03:47.33 | bleetah | 'coz it's faster.. the fact that it's hideously expensive doesn't enter into it |
| 03:47.35 | Nom- | we have great flight paths |
| 03:47.36 | zenzelezz | I <3 Fel Reavers |
| 03:47.47 | zenzelezz | I'd pay to look like one in Defensive Stance |
| 03:48.01 | bleetah | isn't there a horde flightpath in Outlands that flies you through the wall of a building? ;) |
| 03:48.17 | bleetah | think I read a bug stating that, sometiume last night |
| 03:48.42 | Nom- | dunno |
| 03:48.48 | Nom- | not that i've seen yet |
| 03:49.08 | Shadowed | Saroz: Even if it was Imp spirit doing it, JoL healing shouldn't go up by 20-30 from only 10ish extra healing |
| 03:49.23 | bleetah | still, doesn't explain why IF->Nethergarde goes through SW... but the return takes you via.. can't remember where,.. peru and mongolia I think it was |
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| 03:50.45 | Nom- | Oh, i've never had a spirit buff on my pally, so that doesn't explain it either :D |
| 03:51.35 | bleetah | cya Iriel|Away |
| 03:51.41 | Nom- | I just want to know if it's based on some stat, so I can boost that stat for free healing bonus |
| 03:52.03 | Shadowed | I figured that JoL was getting an increase healing from tree of life |
| 03:54.58 | Industrial | Is it me or does my kittykat grow during my leveling o_O (well, its leveling..) |
| 03:55.12 | Shadowed | hunter pets grow in size as they level |
| 03:55.45 | Industrial | ok cool |
| 03:55.46 | Industrial | :) |
| 03:59.50 | Guillotine | when they up the cap to 200, we're going to have pets as big as IF |
| 04:00.01 | Industrial | :P |
| 04:00.02 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6911 |
| 04:00.03 | Industrial | or |
| 04:00.07 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure you were able to get pets as big as IF back in beta |
| 04:00.09 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=15587 |
| 04:00.21 | Industrial | I am hunter, the latter is quest reward |
| 04:00.41 | Shadowed | i'd go with AP |
| 04:00.48 | Industrial | someone advised me to get ap gear as hunter yesterday :S I have no idea whats "good" |
| 04:00.58 | Nom- | hmm |
| 04:00.59 | Shadowed | i'd say balance out everything |
| 04:01.06 | Nom- | someone just posted in my thread and said spells scale with level |
| 04:01.23 | Nom- | Can someone check their mage or something and tell me what a rank of frostbolt does with no +dmg gear? :P |
| 04:01.55 | Guillotine | they were wrong |
| 04:01.58 | Nom- | on the tooltip, not just the actual damage...the bonus i was getting on each level was in the tooltip |
| 04:01.58 | Guillotine | spells don't scale with level |
| 04:02.14 | Nom- | See, that's what I thought |
| 04:02.27 | Nom- | Maybe they meant Paladin spells scale with level :P |
| 04:02.40 | Shadowed | I though as you leveled up, you needed more spell damage to get the same dmg/healing bonuses you did the previous level? |
| 04:02.50 | Shadowed | not sure why you would see the reverse for heals though |
| 04:03.08 | Nom- | No, +spell dmg never diminishes |
| 04:03.12 | Nom- | crit rating etc does |
| 04:03.19 | Shadowed | yeah i know rating does |
| 04:03.39 | Nom- | But the thing i'm seeing is a level 30 pally with NO +healing gear getting bonuses to Flash of Light |
| 04:03.53 | Shadowed | you sure it's not talents? |
| 04:04.13 | Nom- | Well i've put my talent build in this thread...there's nothing against the descriptions of those talents |
| 04:04.17 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=69871653&sid=1 |
| 04:07.26 | Mike-N-Go | This macro, " /script if UnitIsPlayer("target") then; FollowUnit("target"); SendChatMessage("is following "..UnitName("target").."." , "EMOTE"); end " does not seem to want to work, any ideas? |
| 04:08.12 | Shadowed | as in, it does the emote and wont follow? |
| 04:08.21 | Mike-N-Go | I get an error |
| 04:08.28 | Guillotine | you shouldn't have ";" after then |
| 04:08.41 | Mike-N-Go | Where shouldn't it be? |
| 04:08.46 | Shadowed | "then;" |
| 04:08.51 | Shadowed | should just be "then" |
| 04:08.59 | Guillotine | right. and you'll need "end" at the end |
| 04:09.05 | Guillotine | oh wait, you have that |
| 04:09.26 | Shadowed | I though they made FollowUnit protected though |
| 04:09.27 | Mike-N-Go | Why should the then not be there? |
| 04:09.34 | Shadowed | you have |
| 04:09.36 | Guillotine | then should be |
| 04:09.40 | Shadowed | /script if UnitIsPlayer("target") then; |
| 04:09.41 | Guillotine | but not the semi-colon after it |
| 04:10.02 | Mike-N-Go | Err, I mean, why should the semi-colon not be there, lol. |
| 04:10.10 | Guillotine | thats just how lua works |
| 04:10.15 | Guillotine | no ; after then |
| 04:10.25 | zenzelezz | because ; means "I'm done with this" |
| 04:10.34 | Mike-N-Go | It is interesting what a basic understanding of lua can help make macros :) |
| 04:10.47 | Mike-N-Go | I thought it meant line break. |
| 04:11.27 | Mike-N-Go | Well, I did not know about that then, thanks for the help. |
| 04:12.13 | bleetah | Bleet's ever increasing list off stuff not to do while trying to play WoW: install 2x copies of XP, 1x Debian and 1x Ubuntu simultaneously onto the machine playing the game |
| 04:13.16 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowwiki.com/API#Movement_Functions |
| 04:13.33 | Mike-N-Go | FollowUnit() is the only non-protected movement function.. |
| 04:13.55 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, but what is a ToggleMouseMove()? |
| 04:14.30 | Guillotine | you can right-click somewhere to move |
| 04:14.36 | Guillotine | if you have that enabled |
| 04:14.40 | Guillotine | much like in WC3 |
| 04:16.28 | Mike-N-Go | Is there a way to prevent emote spam with my macro if someone spamed it? |
| 04:16.35 | Mike-N-Go | I tried: /script if (UnitIsPlayer("target") and not FollowUnit("target")) then FollowUnit("target"); SendChatMessage("is following "..UnitName("target").."." , "EMOTE"); end |
| 04:16.42 | Mike-N-Go | But that does not do what I want. |
| 04:17.16 | Guillotine | I suppose you'd have to hooksecurefunc FollowUnit |
| 04:17.30 | Mike-N-Go | Yay.. |
| 04:17.46 | bleetah | ?! there's a IsLinuxClient API call?!!! |
| 04:18.15 | Mike-N-Go | bleetah: Sure, so Blizzard can check if you are running Linux. |
| 04:18.34 | bleetah | hmmm, I wonder what it'll return when I try it out ;-) |
| 04:18.43 | Mike-N-Go | If you read the ToS/ELU, BLizzrd has rights to probe your RAM and whatnot. |
| 04:19.03 | bleetah | bit hard to probe ram that's not made available to the environment it's running in |
| 04:19.04 | Shadowed | doesn't mean they would give us access to that |
| 04:19.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and process list |
| 04:19.16 | Mike-N-Go | "NOTICE: Your account has been suspended." is my guess. |
| 04:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and window titles :o |
| 04:19.22 | Shadowed | nope actually |
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| 04:19.31 | Zicon | bleetah: Sounds like an interesting list of things you have. |
| 04:19.45 | Shadowed | last I heard, you aren't suspended if it can't scan your RAM, it simply fails silently |
| 04:20.00 | Mike-N-Go | I wonder if there is enough room to hoocksucure FollowUnit.. |
| 04:20.05 | bleetah | Zicon: getting close the release of the gaim chat client, I'm going to be doing lots of test building/debugging on the plugin i'm kinda involved with |
| 04:20.20 | bleetah | *of the gaim client version 2.0.0 |
| 04:20.28 | Shadowed | why would you need to hooksecure followunit Mike-N-Go |
| 04:20.30 | bleetah | only been in devlopment since... around mid 2005 |
| 04:20.45 | Mike-N-Go | To prevent spam of emote. |
| 04:24.33 | Mike-N-Go | I did: /script if (UnitIsPlayer("target") and not follow) then FollowUnit("target"); SendChatMessage("is following "..UnitName("target").."." , "EMOTE"); end; hooksecurefunc("FollowUnit", follow) |
| 04:24.41 | Mike-N-Go | Did I hooksecure right? |
| 04:25.13 | Mike-N-Go | Shadowed: Because Guillotine supposed so. |
| 04:28.17 | Mike-N-Go | Bah, to complex, I think I will forget about the anti-spam thing. |
| 04:28.52 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks for the help. |
| 04:30.43 | bleetah | yeah, it's definately thinking it's a windows client.. which is correct, after all, it's being passed through WINE. So I can only guess that there's a Linux client that's simply not released :( |
| 04:31.46 | Mike-N-Go | It prevents spam of macro if the unit is not a player, good enough for me. But what if there out of range, or you hit an obstacle..., hum. |
| 04:32.39 | zenzelezz | bleetah: IIRC that function is very old by now and always acted the same way |
| 04:35.12 | bleetah | yeah, just dug this out of the 1.6 patchnotes 'IsWindowsClient() returns true if you're running Windows or Wine, andIsLinuxClient() always returns false (but was added for completeness)' |
| 04:36.19 | bleetah | If i were a betting man, I'd almost suggest if slouken had the time, he may have some kinda ugly hack floating around .. just the idea of playing WoW with some nifty OpenGL filters etc. (ASCII WOW!) gets me going ;) |
| 04:36.40 | Mike-N-Go | :o |
| 04:37.17 | zenzelezz | might be a bit hard to read the text then |
| 04:37.50 | kahdgarxi | ascii wow would rock |
| 04:38.04 | bleetah | true, but means you don't have to wait for the next XPAC to find something difficult to do |
| 04:38.11 | bleetah | and.. it wouldn't cause bugs in the code, etc. etc. |
| 04:38.44 | Mike-N-Go | How would there not be bugs? |
| 04:38.45 | bleetah | I tried telling people UIFaster of 1 turned it into ASCII WOW.. no one believed me :( |
| 04:39.16 | bleetah | it wouldn't add new bugs.. it's a filter for OpenGL which you can apply over the directly rendered window... turns the output into ASCII art |
| 04:39.53 | bleetah | many a game's difficulty can be heavily increased by doing such stupidities :D |
| 04:41.29 | bleetah | hmm, actually... wonder if I could do that to the WINE window |
| 04:42.48 | Mike-N-Go | Humm, the iTunes controlls for Mac are Protected.. |
| 04:47.52 | bleetah | for a demonstration of ASCII filters, check out your favourite DVD with http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ View->Preferences->(check 'advanced in bottom right)->Video->Filters->Output Modules->Video Output Module->ASCII-art |
| 04:51.47 | Guillotine | bleetah: if you get that working, I want screenshots |
| 04:51.51 | Guillotine | many, many, screenshots |
| 04:54.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder what that scene in the matrix looks like in that |
| 04:57.01 | Tain | I very, VERY briefly put up a webcam that rendered in ASCII. |
| 04:59.09 | bleetah | hmm, looks like I'd need to hack wine |
| 04:59.17 | bleetah | no real suprise there |
| 05:00.34 | bleetah | http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ << lol |
| 05:00.44 | bleetah | (not office safe) |
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| 05:03.06 | wedf | hey quick question |
| 05:03.06 | bleetah | hmm, anyways, this has just become my pet project. hack wine to render WoW using libcaca (colour ascii) |
| 05:03.06 | wedf | i was in the barrens north of the crossroads |
| 05:03.19 | bleetah | no, manrik's wife is SOUTH |
| 05:03.22 | Tain | Colour! Luxury! In my day we didn't have clour in our ASCII! |
| 05:03.31 | wedf | and a horde that looked like a stout human pirate killed me |
| 05:03.35 | bleetah | in my day, we didn't even haqve screens! |
| 05:03.43 | wedf | ... how did he make himself look like that |
| 05:03.45 | wedf | he was a mage |
| 05:04.05 | bleetah | deviate fish... turns you into looking like a pirate |
| 05:04.15 | Tain | Yarr |
| 05:04.16 | bleetah | yarrrrrrrr |
| 05:04.22 | bleetah | rrrrrrrr |
| 05:04.50 | bleetah | shiver me timbers, wedf walked the plank then, yarrrrrrr |
| 05:12.41 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.54 | Nom- | <-- Level 33 tonight :D |
| 05:12.57 | Nom- | I'm gonnna do et :D |
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| 05:17.39 | Nom- | What's the deal with the forums? |
| 05:17.46 | Nom- | They seem dodgy...the official wow forums |
| 05:17.54 | Nom- | The top few posts in the Paladin forum are days old |
| 05:18.13 | ^Alleyria | No one likes Pally's |
| 05:18.23 | Nom- | no i mean the post i made isn't even there |
| 05:18.31 | ^Alleyria | Yeah |
| 05:18.39 | ^Alleyria | That's Blizzard :) |
| 05:18.50 | Nom- | The mage one is the same |
| 05:19.00 | Nom- | The very first post is like nearly 2 weeks old |
| 05:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Nom-> no i mean the post i made isn't even there |
| 05:19.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | make sure you're sorting by last post date |
| 05:20.02 | ^Alleyria | I was about to say that...But I was fighting Herod... |
| 05:20.09 | Nom- | gah ffs |
| 05:20.15 | Nom- | It should default to that |
| 05:20.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | what a noob gosh |
| 05:20.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 05:20.19 | ^Alleyria | It is |
| 05:20.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it does, but it saves in cookies |
| 05:20.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you change it in a drunken stupor |
| 05:21.20 | ^Alleyria | mhmm |
| 05:32.07 | Kirkburn|afk | An odd question, but I have my reasons: Does anyone know the name Utakz in relation to MS beta testing? |
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| 05:49.34 | zenzelezz | and battlegroup 3 yet again goes down |
| 05:49.59 | zenzelezz | my temper is way too short to play on that cluster soon |
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| 06:03.47 | kaiden | Does anyone know how i can force shaman buffs to go to mainhand or offhand? |
| 06:04.23 | kaiden | WeaponRebuff Redux doesn't seem to have it working correctly, and i wanted a macro i could just have that would put that buff on a specific weapon |
| 06:11.13 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.18 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.23 | Guillotine | or whatever item you're using |
| 06:11.36 | Guillotine | you could do offhand/mainhand via numbers, but I forgot what the numbers were |
| 06:15.42 | kaiden | Guillotine, i was thinking of doing it that way but the problem is, i have 2 flurry axes |
| 06:15.48 | kaiden | and will probably always have 2 weapons with the same name |
| 06:15.57 | kaiden | so how do you tell /equipslot to use a specific weapon |
| 06:16.12 | Guillotine | each slot has a number |
| 06:16.17 | Guillotine | e.g. trinkets are 13,14 |
| 06:16.24 | Guillotine | use wowwiki to find the numbers for mainhand/offhand |
| 06:16.45 | kaiden | I know the numbers man :) but how do i tell it which weapon to use |
| 06:16.49 | kaiden | if i have 2 weapons of the same exact name |
| 06:18.10 | zenzelezz | /use 13 |
| 06:18.12 | zenzelezz | worked for me |
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| 06:18.26 | zenzelezz | try it with the weapon slots |
| 06:20.23 | kaiden | ok i'll make this question a bit easier, is there any way to unequip an item via macro? |
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| 06:36.22 | Dhraga | morning all |
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| 07:00.07 | tingle | mornin! |
| 07:00.43 | tingle | got a question is it possible to secure a addon that i make, to not make it abel to be viewed( the codeing) |
| 07:06.48 | Zicon | tingle: No. |
| 07:09.50 | Guillotine | you could obfuscate it, but thats considered rude as, most likely, you learned your code from other addons and are denying new authors the ability to do the same |
| 07:10.07 | Guillotine | also, its hard as heck to obfuscate well ;) |
| 07:10.28 | zenzelezz | and it makes your addon sound suspicious |
| 07:10.30 | Guillotine | anyway, gn all |
| 07:10.32 | Guillotine | indeed |
| 07:11.01 | Guillotine | only time obfuscation is considered acceptable is if it is required, for example, for securing a database like thottbot |
| 07:11.13 | Guillotine | people could easily add in bogus items if it wasn't obfuscated |
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| 07:16.08 | Lorek | Hi guys, first time on here was wondering if someone might be able to help me with a problem i'm running into as a first time mod dev. |
| 07:17.03 | zenzelezz | this isn't the most active time of day, but ask in the channel and anyone awake might help if they know the solution |
| 07:17.55 | Lorek | ok, so i've created a addon put it in its own folder with proper .toc, .lua, and xml files but when I login to check and make sure it works no addon's show up |
| 07:18.41 | zenzelezz | where don't it show up? |
| 07:18.54 | Lorek | usually there's an addon button that shows a list of addon's and its not there. |
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| 07:19.00 | xlvii | What level is Lower Blackrock Spire? Would a group of 56+ be alright? |
| 07:19.07 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 07:19.37 | tingle | got antoher question or better said a porlbme |
| 07:19.44 | tingle | d |
| 07:19.51 | tingle | s |
| 07:19.54 | Lorek | i took out my custom interface while i started on this so the only addon showing up should be the one i made but it doesn't show. |
| 07:20.12 | Lorek | simple Onload popup xml frame |
| 07:21.32 | tingle | guillotine: you saw how i made my code, as you know there is more than one quest with the same name, when i turn in and accept a quest with the same name i get the problem that the text for the first quest showes up, is there a way by tunring in the first quest to turn off the first function so the text doesnt come again? |
| 07:21.53 | zenzelezz | tingle: Guillotine logged off |
| 07:21.58 | tingle | o_O |
| 07:22.16 | tingle | well anyone els abel to tell me how i can do such a thing |
| 07:23.32 | tingle | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.33 | Lorek | is there a way of identifying a quest other then by name? |
| 07:23.58 | tingle | look this is the way i get a event on a quest: |
| 07:24.10 | tingle | if(event=="CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM" and arg1=="Quest accepted: A Refugee's Quandary") then |
| 07:24.52 | tingle | but in this case i got a other quest where i accept it 2 times after tunring the first one in |
| 07:24.59 | tingle | is there a way to turn the old one off? |
| 07:26.06 | tingle | i remember in autoit there was a function like at the top of the code you do: $a=1 then later turn it off with $a=0 |
| 07:26.32 | tingle | is there a way to do something like this in lua? |
| 07:30.35 | tingle | anyone here? |
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| 07:35.52 | Dundir | can anyone think of a reason why an addon wouldn't show up on the addon's list if all the header's were put in correctly |
| 07:37.20 | Dundir | i'm just having a little issue with my addon not showing up in the addon's list |
| 07:37.42 | zenzelezz | is the .toc file called the same as the folder? |
| 07:38.44 | Dundir | and that fixed it |
| 07:41.06 | tingle | can someone help me with what i typed up there |
| 07:42.11 | Dundir | did u see my message? |
| 07:43.06 | tingle | your private messagE? |
| 07:43.10 | Dundir | yeah |
| 07:43.23 | tingle | i read it and answered |
| 07:43.35 | Dundir | i didn't get the reply |
| 07:43.43 | tingle | im unregisterd |
| 07:44.46 | tingle | well anyway i said yes, or better said i need a line in a function to turn off another function |
| 07:45.37 | tingle | how do i do that |
| 07:45.41 | Dundir | well you can use if/then statements whenever you call the function you want to turn on/off and have it dependant on a variable you set |
| 07:46.03 | Dundir | if( a == "1") then |
| 07:46.30 | tingle | i was thinking of adding a line to a function to turn off the old function with the same quest name |
| 07:46.56 | tingle | how do i do that and where do i put the lines |
| 07:48.24 | Dundir | i'm not exactly sure how to do it with lua, but in general you'd want to put some code in that checks if its being double listed and prevents double listing |
| 07:53.31 | seebs | Anyone seen Tuller lately? |
| 07:56.29 | Mikma | ~seen tuller |
| 07:56.36 | purl | tuller <n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 11h 36m ago, saying: 'if I had to guess, something'. |
| 07:56.59 | seebs | Drat. |
| 07:57.17 | seebs | I found a race condition in Sage unit frames. I wanted to get feedback on it, but I suppose a comment on WoWI is enough. |
| 07:58.33 | Dundir | can anyone see anything blatantly wrong with this code? |
| 07:58.36 | Dundir | label = getglobal("TutForm".."CountLabel".."Label"); |
| 07:59.15 | seebs | Well, the obvious thing would be the total pointlessness. Just write "label = TutFormCountLabelLabel". |
| 07:59.44 | seebs | I am pretty sure getglobal is only useful when the argument is non-constant. |
| 08:00.39 | seebs | Argh. It happened again! I got curious about a quirk of my UI, I ended up debugging it, and now I'm too tired to actually play. |
| 08:01.49 | Dundir | it was part of a tutorial that's not running properly |
| 08:02.01 | seebs | Huh. |
| 08:02.15 | seebs | Well, nothing ELSE is obviously wrong, assuming there's really a global named TutFormCountLabelLabel. |
| 08:03.03 | Dundir | there are local's COunt and Label and Tutform's been defined but it throw's an error as nil |
| 08:05.07 | seebs | Well, that does look like it would be nil. |
| 08:05.16 | seebs | I'd help more but I'm WAY too tired. My caffeine just wore off. |
| 08:05.24 | seebs | Anyway, what it's doing is: |
| 08:05.45 | seebs | 1. Building the string "TutFormCountLabelLabel". (.. is the concatenation operator) |
| 08:06.01 | seebs | 2. Calling getglobal on that string to obtain a global variable of the same name. Only, apparently, there isn't one. |
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| 08:20.41 | Dundir | hmm |
| 08:26.22 | Dundir | you can change lua files while Wow is open and /console reload will reload any changes made right? |
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| 08:28.27 | kahdgarxi | yes, as long as you don't add any files |
| 08:32.00 | Dundir | so i'm doing a tutorial and its been being difficult |
| 08:33.03 | Dundir | its the one that comes with WoW ui designer |
| 08:34.02 | Dundir | keeps throwing a nil error with two lines, label = getglobal("TutForm".."CountLabel".."Label"); and label:SetText("This form has been loaded "..count.." time(s)"); |
| 08:35.12 | ckknight | what should I call my Guild roster library? |
| 08:35.56 | Dundir | TutForm = XML Frame CountLabel = XML Label inside frame and I can't find any reference to Label, however removing does not remove the error. |
| 08:37.42 | Dundir | any ideas? |
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| 08:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30945 |
| 08:44.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | lol |
| 08:45.33 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 08:45.34 | kahdgarxi | nice |
| 09:00.58 | Dundir | anyone that's on familiar with the WoW Ui Designer Tutorial? |
| 09:02.33 | Dundir | I can't seem to get this stupid tutorial to work, not really used to working with xml / lua but i've had quite a few years with C++ |
| 09:02.36 | Dundir | http://wowi.pastey.net/5358 |
| 09:03.22 | Dundir | I keep getting a WoW error for local var label on line 12, with label showing up as nil. |
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| 09:07.07 | kaso | TutorialProjectFOrm |
| 09:07.14 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.18 | kaso | woops |
| 09:07.20 | kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.23 | kaso | aroun there |
| 09:07.28 | kaso | 0 instead of o |
| 09:08.55 | kaso | Also sure its TutorialProjectFormCountLabelLabel not TutorialProjectFormCountLabel ? |
| 09:09.18 | kaso | also you dont need to do getglobal here, you could just do label = TutorialProjectFormCountLabel |
| 09:10.00 | Dundir | yeah |
| 09:10.21 | Dundir | it was the O |
| 09:11.01 | Dundir | and it is TutorialProjectForm..CountLabel..Label, although i don't know where the last var is referenced |
| 09:11.17 | Dundir | I can't seem to find any reference to it. |
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| 11:04.04 | Dundir | well i guess it is kinda late |
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| 11:07.26 | Industrial | morning |
| 11:08.27 | dvorakkey | ya i need party to test those frames |
| 11:10.46 | Dundir | with 2.0 was the way tables worked changed in lua? |
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| 11:14.42 | Dundir | hmm |
| 11:16.03 | dvorakkey | not really |
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| 11:18.19 | Industrial | Question: |
| 11:18.43 | Industrial | if I DoT a rogue with my hunter sting |
| 11:18.55 | Industrial | will he unhide if he hides? |
| 11:19.05 | Dundir | if it does a tick of dmg while he's stealthed yes |
| 11:19.09 | Industrial | k |
| 11:19.28 | Dundir | Question: ever seen an error like this? |
| 11:19.32 | Industrial | I hate dueling rogues as hunter :( crippling poison ftl |
| 11:19.58 | Dundir | String"ActionButton49"Onclick"]:14: Unknown Unit Token |
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| 11:23.41 | dvorakkey | maybe mistyped macro |
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| 11:24.47 | Dundir | it happens when i try and drop a skill onto my actionbar |
| 11:26.59 | Dundir | eh well its like 4am here i better hit the hay |
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| 11:30.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Did anyone see Scrubs a few days ago? I'm watching it now - it's amazing! |
| 11:32.10 | chuckg_ | Haha the singing episode? |
| 11:32.19 | chuckg_ | The un-gay male song is the best. |
| 11:33.22 | krka | yeah it rocks |
| 11:33.34 | krka | best ep in a long time |
| 11:35.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm halfway thru atm :D |
| 11:35.21 | Kirkburn|afk | A sample for the initiated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqhW54RBQA&eurl= |
| 11:38.27 | krka | i prefer this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF6rSGfUdyg |
| 11:43.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, the patient is Stephanie D'Abruzzo - "She is best known for originating the roles of both Kate Monster and Lucy the Slut in the Broadway musical, Avenue Q" |
| 11:43.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | of "the internet is for porn" fame |
| 11:44.22 | Kirkburn|afk | indeededly |
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| 12:03.37 | tingle | does someone know a webite where i can upload files vor free |
| 12:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | what kind of files |
| 12:04.16 | tingle | zip |
| 12:04.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | pictures, scripts, what |
| 12:04.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | rapidshare.de probably |
| 12:06.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 12:06.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | those of you who played diablo 2 |
| 12:07.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | listen to the draenei laugh and tell me that's not baal's laugh |
| 12:08.41 | kaso | Google likes U-Turns : http://tinyurl.com/3coubw |
| 12:09.05 | tingle | hehe |
| 12:09.41 | tingle | anyone wanna try out my leveling guid addon, its only a prieview because im far from being done, its for dwarf or gnome to level 6 |
| 12:10.29 | tingle | http://www.file-upload.net/download-183153.../taplg.rar.html |
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| 12:12.51 | kaso | tingle |
| 12:13.07 | tingle | yea |
| 12:13.28 | kaso | If you're going to be storing lots of strings like that you should store them in a more efficent manner |
| 12:13.42 | tingle | :( |
| 12:13.54 | kaso | for example |
| 12:14.12 | tingle | im new to the hole codeing stuff and thats the easiest way for me to do that.. |
| 12:14.22 | kaso | ill write up an example for you |
| 12:14.51 | tingle | k |
| 12:14.55 | TheStig | yea listen to kaso lol |
| 12:15.02 | TheStig | he's pointed me in the right direction more than twice hehe |
| 12:15.37 | kaso | You certainly do like your color codes tingle :> |
| 12:16.25 | tingle | quest names and quest mobs and npcs are green :D the rest light blue |
| 12:16.33 | TheStig | I haven't slept in days |
| 12:16.40 | TheStig | lvl 56 blood elf now |
| 12:16.47 | kaso | woah |
| 12:16.50 | kaso | thats qutie crazy |
| 12:16.54 | TheStig | yes it is |
| 12:16.55 | TheStig | VERY |
| 12:16.59 | kaso | But you should sleep |
| 12:17.00 | TheStig | i am cranky and tired lol |
| 12:17.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, WoWWiki is getting about 1,000 hits/min atm |
| 12:17.04 | TheStig | i was trying to get 60 but |
| 12:17.15 | TheStig | i think i'm going to have to call it a session and give it up |
| 12:17.19 | Kirkburn|afk | 56 BE, bloody hell |
| 12:17.19 | kaso | bots kirk? |
| 12:17.20 | Corr[discon] | NO. |
| 12:17.24 | Corr[discon] | YOU WILL GET 60 IN ONE SESSION. |
| 12:17.27 | TheStig | although its not a paladin, its a mage |
| 12:17.28 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, possibly, possibly ;) |
| 12:17.38 | TheStig | so i've been AOE killing pirates and shit |
| 12:17.41 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=VoidvectorBot |
| 12:17.44 | Corrodias | oh noes! the wrong "the"! |
| 12:17.46 | TheStig | and dead things in the crypt in WPL |
| 12:17.50 | Corrodias | TheStig, my apologies your name was wrong. |
| 12:17.53 | clad|sleep | Kirkburn|afk: If you had to get from Canterbury, to Oxford on a regular basis, how would you do that? Bus? Train? Plane? |
| 12:17.55 | TheStig | hehe |
| 12:18.11 | kaso | haha |
| 12:18.12 | kaso | spammer! |
| 12:18.16 | Kirkburn|afk | clad|sleep, just need to go shopping now (no toilet paper!), talk after! |
| 12:18.18 | TheStig | Some say he can level a blood elf to 60 in one session, all we know is he's called TheStig |
| 12:18.27 | clad|sleep | hehe okay, i'm headed to work |
| 12:18.29 | clad|sleep | just was curious |
| 12:18.33 | krka | not sure how you would store the strings more efficiently |
| 12:18.34 | Kirkburn|afk | Able to chat there? |
| 12:18.36 | Corrodias | is AoE grinding fun? |
| 12:18.42 | TheStig | its hilarious |
| 12:18.44 | Kirkburn|afk | kaso, it's been going for about 2 days :) |
| 12:18.44 | TheStig | i die a lot but |
| 12:18.52 | TheStig | i get like 2600xp every batch of mobs |
| 12:18.54 | Kirkburn|afk | TheStig, lol |
| 12:19.00 | TheStig | and make about 120g a day |
| 12:19.02 | TheStig | or more |
| 12:19.06 | Kirkburn|afk | (at your Top Gear comment) |
| 12:19.09 | clad|sleep | Kirkburn|afk: I'll be on googletalk/email if you're feeling saucy =) |
| 12:19.10 | TheStig | hehe |
| 12:19.13 | Corrodias | in cash drops, or including selling items on the AH? |
| 12:19.19 | TheStig | well |
| 12:19.19 | Corrodias | (cash & vends) |
| 12:19.20 | Kirkburn|afk | clad|sleep, I /always/ feel saucy |
| 12:19.25 | TheStig | i have to ignore nearly all greys |
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| 12:19.30 | TheStig | except the 1g+ ones |
| 12:19.34 | TheStig | and save only the best greens |
| 12:19.46 | Kirkburn|afk | My furst guess would be train though |
| 12:19.46 | TheStig | i don't have time to check values on pages doing this so |
| 12:19.48 | Kirkburn|afk | *first |
| 12:19.49 | TheStig | i just guess |
| 12:19.56 | krka | kaso, what's wrong with the strings? |
| 12:20.01 | TheStig | if something looks leather with lots of stam and agility |
| 12:20.08 | TheStig | or AP i sell it cause a rogue will want it |
| 12:20.23 | TheStig | same goes for other common sense items, but anything *whale or what not goes to the trash |
| 12:20.33 | TheStig | it does help having 4 imbued netherweave bags though |
| 12:20.37 | Kirkburn|afk | (I almost got on a train to Oxford yesterday, weir) |
| 12:20.39 | Corrodias | arr. |
| 12:20.43 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 12:20.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Bad keyboard! /me slaps the keyboar |
| 12:20.56 | Corrodias | my little mage is only up to 23, after a few days |
| 12:21.00 | kaso | well for example the strings have all got color codes embedded in instead of writing a function to add the color codes before its outputted |
| 12:21.04 | TheStig | mage is rough until 26 |
| 12:21.09 | TheStig | you get cone of cold and you're in there |
| 12:21.17 | krka | kaso, but that would create lots of temporary strings instead |
| 12:21.47 | Corrodias | i find that mobs tend to be almost as fast as i am, even at 50% of their normal speed |
| 12:21.54 | Corrodias | in some cases. currently in the Barrens |
| 12:22.01 | kaso | Surely its better to have the temp strings GCable than having the same string stored hundreds of times in the memory? |
| 12:22.09 | TheStig | the nice thing was all the alliance retards were off leveling their mains in outland giving me a great opportunity to go AoE grind without being harrassed by farmers |
| 12:22.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh TheStig, you're so controversial :) |
| 12:22.41 | TheStig | plus it being a PvP server, everyone off doing other crap, i was left alone pretty much and can now defend myself vs most people |
| 12:22.47 | TheStig | hehe |
| 12:22.51 | krka | it's not that much memory |
| 12:22.57 | Corrodias | i've read the two AoE farming strategies on WoWwiki |
| 12:23.06 | Corrodias | what are your thoughts on how to do it right? |
| 12:23.18 | krka | like 12 bytes extra for each color usage |
| 12:23.23 | TheStig | well i died a lot in the beginning just trying to do it on my own, but i eventually got it like i wanted it |
| 12:23.28 | TheStig | here is what i do |
| 12:23.33 | krka | you might even save memory and performance this way |
| 12:23.38 | krka | depending on how large string headers are |
| 12:24.03 | TheStig | i mount up, gather up as many mobs as i can stand without dying with them trailing behind, use ice armor not the mana regen one |
| 12:24.27 | TheStig | then dismount, frost nova, stand at max distance for blizzard |
| 12:24.41 | TheStig | blizzard, they will walk very very slowly once frost nova breaks, blizzard again closer |
| 12:24.51 | TheStig | closing the aoe circle so they maximize travel through it |
| 12:24.57 | TheStig | then frost nova again and repeat |
| 12:25.01 | TheStig | sometimes some don't freeze |
| 12:25.05 | TheStig | then you blink away and pray |
| 12:25.24 | Corrodias | you follow the "blizzard-based" strategy on wowwiki, then. or rather, you do something that's the same as it talks about. |
| 12:25.30 | TheStig | hehe |
| 12:25.38 | TheStig | i never read it, i just got the idea after dying like 12 times |
| 12:25.51 | TheStig | but it works nicely |
| 12:25.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i learned that for aoe farming, frostbite bad, permafrost good |
| 12:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's about it |
| 12:26.04 | Corrodias | although it recommends 3/3 Improved Blizzard, i think i only want 2/3 so the chill doesn't overwrite CoC's, which is much, much longer |
| 12:26.16 | Corrodias | the CoC-based strategy mentions this |
| 12:26.21 | TheStig | i'm going to try to farm in dire maul soon |
| 12:26.22 | Corrodias | permafrost, permafrost... |
| 12:26.32 | Corrodias | yes, definitely permafrost |
| 12:26.34 | TheStig | just use the environment exploit and cast frostbolt |
| 12:26.48 | Corrodias | environment exploit? mobs have some pathing issues? |
| 12:26.57 | TheStig | oh yes |
| 12:26.58 | TheStig | haha |
| 12:26.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Do you want to know how stupid I am? |
| 12:27.00 | TheStig | YES |
| 12:27.09 | TheStig | i will show you hold on |
| 12:27.10 | Corrodias | i think i saw a video of such a thing, but i'm not aware it can be done throughout the whole instance |
| 12:27.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | pathing issues? |
| 12:27.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | in my wow? |
| 12:27.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | never |
| 12:27.19 | Corrodias | it's more likely than you think |
| 12:27.20 | TheStig | SERIOUS pathing issues |
| 12:27.22 | TheStig | like... |
| 12:27.25 | TheStig | haha |
| 12:27.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was sarcasm |
| 12:27.29 | Kirkburn|afk | I just ran a block to a cash machine, patted my pockets and found I left my wallet here :/ |
| 12:27.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember when |
| 12:27.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i hit a rock |
| 12:27.34 | Corrodias | yes, and it was also /b/ |
| 12:27.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | while feral charging |
| 12:27.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i died |
| 12:27.48 | TheStig | lol |
| 12:27.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 12:27.50 | Corrodias | good job Kirkburn|afk! |
| 12:28.06 | Kirkburn|afk | That's my exercise done for today :) |
| 12:28.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | better than leaving your wallet at the atm |
| 12:28.15 | Kirkburn|afk | Mr_Rabies lol |
| 12:28.42 | Corrodias | the ideal build for blizzard-based AoE farming also doesn't have Shatter or Ice Shards, but i'm going for more of a general frost build so i definitely want them. |
| 12:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is what i'm guessing a cash machine is across the pond/soviet canuckistan |
| 12:29.28 | Corrodias | this is what i currently have worked out: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=R0xVZZVAMIRfxswot |
| 12:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | shatter plus frostbite is awesome in solo content |
| 12:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | or |
| 12:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | nonaoefarming |
| 12:29.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | anything but aoe farming, it's fantastic |
| 12:29.34 | Corrodias | arr. i do want aoe farming to be an option, so i must leave it out. :( |
| 12:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | constant constant critting |
| 12:30.09 | Corrodias | it sounds nuts, though. i really want it. but aoe farming just sounds so darn effective. |
| 12:30.41 | TheStig | oh it is |
| 12:30.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | your mom just sounds so darn effective |
| 12:30.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | agh |
| 12:30.49 | TheStig | 2000-3000xp a pop when they all die |
| 12:30.53 | TheStig | plus CASH |
| 12:30.58 | Corrodias | you were going to show us these pathing issues? |
| 12:31.03 | TheStig | yes |
| 12:31.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | the voidwalkers in the void field |
| 12:31.06 | TheStig | i am looking for the good ones |
| 12:31.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | are like perfect aoe farming |
| 12:32.20 | TheStig | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4151238888282986782 |
| 12:37.12 | Corrodias | "void field"? |
| 12:37.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay this "no AH in outlands thing" is becoming annoying |
| 12:37.38 | TheStig | they'll put a seperate neutral one in eventually wait and see |
| 12:37.46 | TheStig | one with regular fees |
| 12:38.03 | Corrodias | i agree that one or more auction houses will eventually be put there |
| 12:38.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | consortium/goblin ones :D |
| 12:38.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i honestly don't see the point of not having auctioneers |
| 12:38.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | or linking the trade channels |
| 12:39.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | the unlinked trade is killing enchanting |
| 12:39.56 | Corrodias | this guy is soloing in DM all right, but he's not getting much for loot |
| 12:40.10 | TheStig | he's just showing you how to do it |
| 12:40.13 | TheStig | with multiple mobs on you |
| 12:40.23 | TheStig | obviously he's not going to show a boss cause that woudl take years to kill |
| 12:40.47 | Corrodias | you said you might try it. what is the purpose? sure, you can get a little loot, but it looks pretty slow. |
| 12:40.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously |
| 12:40.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | 26 people in IF |
| 12:40.58 | TheStig | just to see what happens |
| 12:40.59 | TheStig | lol |
| 12:41.40 | Corrodias | actually, i think i've seen a video of someone taking on a boss with pathing problems |
| 12:41.47 | Corrodias | it didn't take forever. |
| 12:42.18 | Corrodias | i know just where to find the video, hang on |
| 12:42.49 | Corrodias | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5767167495196384205 |
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| 12:43.37 | TheStig | ah yes faxmonkey |
| 12:43.48 | TheStig | indeed |
| 12:43.51 | Corrodias | i saved this video, along with several others |
| 12:43.54 | Corrodias | and i have no idea where i put them |
| 12:49.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Houston, we have toilet paper |
| 12:50.13 | bleetah | ahhh, so that's what happened to the bog rolls that got Capn Crunch into trouble |
| 12:50.13 | kaso | tingle |
| 12:51.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Like my sister always used to say: If you tinkle when you sprinkle, please be sweet and wipe the seat. |
| 12:51.07 | Corrodias | now that guy has Frostbite. it certainly does look tasty. :( |
| 12:51.33 | Kirkburn|afk | uh, "If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be sweet and wipe the seat", even |
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| 12:53.36 | krka | kaso: stopped discussing the strings? :( |
| 12:55.22 | kaso | Well, im conviced that in almost every situation its better to have a local which can be GC'd away than a global, but i guess it depends on the situation partly |
| 12:56.05 | kaso | but to tingle, i just reccomended he go to a layout like this with his mod : http://www.pastey.net/5360 using AddMessage's r,g,b args instead of using color escapes every string |
| 12:56.32 | kaso | also arranging the data in a table instead of having a seperate function for each possible event |
| 12:58.00 | kaso | not to sound like i'm running away from a nice disscusion, but i've gotta go out now :< (i am interested in how to get best performance always) |
| 12:58.08 | krka | string literals are neither locals nor globals |
| 12:58.15 | krka | in fact, string literals are faster than locals |
| 12:58.47 | krka | but for code readability and maintainance, i agree with you |
| 12:59.33 | TheStig | ok i can't stand it anymore, sleep for me night all :) |
| 13:03.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you haven't watched this pvp video, i suggest you do: it really shows off this guy's skill, it's amazing http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1393677960885570768 |
| 13:11.14 | Corrodias | lmao |
| 13:13.03 | Corrodias | oh god, i'm in tears |
| 13:13.34 | Corrodias | that song, though, kicks ass |
| 13:13.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | beginning song? |
| 13:13.48 | Corrodias | the one during the (first?) BG scene |
| 13:13.51 | Corrodias | metal |
| 13:13.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's Rhapsody (of Fire) |
| 13:14.00 | Corrodias | or hard rock... something |
| 13:14.06 | Corrodias | i don't know the genre but it kicks my ass |
| 13:14.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | now known as rhapsody of fire |
| 13:14.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | were just rhapsody |
| 13:14.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i posted one of their vids in here earlier today :o |
| 13:15.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mqm-ystzPGY |
| 13:15.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | cheesy power metal at its finest |
| 13:15.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 13:15.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | folk metal i guess |
| 13:15.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | kinda like blind guardian only a little less medieval music sounding, and a little more rock sounding on most songs |
| 13:17.01 | kahdgarxi | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9452 |
| 13:17.03 | kahdgarxi | baaahahaha |
| 13:17.08 | kahdgarxi | UHF referense ftw |
| 13:17.13 | kahdgarxi | reference* |
| 13:17.56 | Corrodias | what is this UHF? |
| 13:18.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | weird al movie |
| 13:18.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's awesome |
| 13:18.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | like |
| 13:18.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | beyond awesome |
| 13:18.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | SPATULA CITY |
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| 13:18.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=I_FoUcDSFxs |
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| 13:20.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 13:20.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | there should be a follow up quest option to turn in the fish for a mystery box |
| 13:21.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | that has a letter saying NOTHING! NOTHING! YOU SO STUUUPID! |
| 13:23.29 | kahdgarxi | :) |
| 13:23.33 | Corrodias | if only... |
| 13:23.38 | Corrodias | if only my connection were faster |
| 13:23.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | lern2broadband |
| 13:24.45 | Corrodias | it maxes at about 80 KB/s downstream |
| 13:24.50 | Corrodias | i want 800. |
| 13:24.59 | bleetah | I was really disappointed with the 'Kessel Run' quest... http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9663 They don't use a unit of distance as a measurement of time :/ |
| 13:25.09 | Corrodias | what's this about an unkillable mob in.. blasted lands, was it? |
| 13:25.20 | Corrodias | : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1177914653107627759 |
| 13:25.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | gosh bleetah don't you know that he meant he used hyperspeed to shave distance off thats how good his piloting is gosh |
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| 13:26.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | don't you ever listen to bullshit stories from nerds that cant grasp the concept that the original trilogy was far from perfect |
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| 13:26.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 13:26.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | this coming from a guy with |
| 13:26.33 | Bouvi | I am here party can now begin!!! |
| 13:26.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | 5 star wars posters in his room |
| 13:26.38 | bleetah | Corrodias: one of those servant thingies near the portal |
| 13:26.59 | Corrodias | please explain |
| 13:27.01 | Industrial | parteh! |
| 13:27.10 | Industrial | Bouvi: why are we partying? |
| 13:27.12 | Corrodias | i never spent -any- time in the blasted lands before the dark portal opened, and then it was only to go through it |
| 13:27.24 | Corrodias | i had never even seen it until the 16th |
| 13:27.32 | bleetah | it stands near a totem like thing... um, you beat it senseless yuntil it's near dead, and then destroy the totem. you can then kill the mob |
| 13:27.34 | Bouvi | Party should begin anytime I enter the room lol. Or the fact I have a 2 day work week then off to Florida |
| 13:27.46 | bleetah | if you don't detroy the totem thingy, kite to your heart's content.. or something like that |
| 13:27.51 | Industrial | theres some quests where you kill them til 5% hp and then Use the object near them to kill them |
| 13:27.54 | bleetah | it's not something GM's appreciate |
| 13:28.03 | Industrial | if you dont destroy that they wont die, ever |
| 13:28.05 | Corrodias | ah, i used to hvae that quest |
| 13:28.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | bleetah: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21691 |
| 13:28.40 | bleetah | because they get flooded with newb tickets of 'zomg bugged mob in <insert major faction city here> can't kill it plz reset server plz plz kthx' |
| 13:28.49 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 13:29.13 | Industrial | lol |
| 13:29.34 | Corrodias | boy that sounds fun! |
| 13:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh bleetah, the reason i linked you that |
| 13:29.40 | Corrodias | can they see who started it? >_> |
| 13:29.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | is because he owns a place |
| 13:29.40 | Industrial | they should just let them go back to their spot and regen anyway |
| 13:29.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | named toshley station |
| 13:29.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | toshley's station* |
| 13:30.04 | Kirkburn|afk | Ravager attakz r kool |
| 13:30.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like |
| 13:30.05 | Corrodias | actually, i would have expected the devs to put a max kitable distance on those things |
| 13:30.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | loaded with references, Metallica songs, star wars, starship troopers |
| 13:30.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | toshley's station was made for ME |
| 13:30.27 | Corrodias | especially if they're undestroyable. i like seeing mobs kited to major cities, but undestroyable ones arek inda cheap. |
| 13:30.54 | Industrial | well te destroyable ones get kileld by random people who think you are killing it |
| 13:31.06 | Industrial | or ones that dont care and wanna work against your plans |
| 13:31.25 | Industrial | "haha i likked it you fail, do it again" |
| 13:31.35 | Industrial | kiled* |
| 13:31.42 | bleetah | One day, I hope some NPC called Gaff is gunna come up to me and tells me I'm not really <insert race here>, but just a very advanced NPC ;) |
| 13:31.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | i saw screens of someone that kited doras, the wind rider master in orgrimmar, to silithus. |
| 13:31.54 | Corrodias | okay, some crappy mob that a single guy can kill isn't what i meant |
| 13:32.15 | kahdgarxi | Mr_Rabies2- rofl |
| 13:32.21 | kahdgarxi | i would be pissed |
| 13:32.22 | Industrial | wonder if the org inn l12 guy is kitable |
| 13:32.32 | Corrodias | the problem with pop culture jokes is that anybody who's not hip (like me) totally isn't entertained |
| 13:32.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's that a reference too, bleetah :x |
| 13:32.44 | Corrodias | i would have no idea what that is, bleetah |
| 13:32.51 | Corrodias | nor a box that called me stupid |
| 13:32.58 | bleetah | More human than human, that's our motto around here |
| 13:33.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | rob zombie song what |
| 13:33.45 | bleetah | The NPC could offer a quest, 'Do engineer's sheep dream of electric <race>' or similar |
| 13:33.49 | bleetah | Blade Runner |
| 13:34.02 | Corrodias | now that's a book reference, right? |
| 13:35.00 | bleetah | Blade Runner is a ... movie created by the police force of the future to cover up Deckard's real purpose (read the official BR2 thru 4 books for details) |
| 13:35.42 | bleetah | or, a different sci-fi reference |
| 13:36.07 | bleetah | get given some quest that has a 'use' item with it.. but the item goes mental and tries to stop you completing the quest (2001) |
| 13:36.20 | bleetah | and on those notes... nn all |
| 13:36.23 | Industrial | nn |
| 13:40.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | so how do i get to silvermoon from undercity? |
| 13:40.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's instanced, so i cant fly there, can i? :x |
| 13:40.49 | krka | portal |
| 13:40.56 | krka | not "instanced", different continent |
| 13:41.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | wheres it at |
| 13:41.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | well you know, same thing :p |
| 13:41.41 | Industrial | uc |
| 13:41.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | it says "instance not found" if your continent/planet is gone |
| 13:41.52 | Cide | Industrial: way to read |
| 13:41.58 | kahdgarxi | kalimdor/eastern kingdoms are just really big instances |
| 13:42.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean where? :[ i checked the mage district, though not perfectly |
| 13:42.01 | kahdgarxi | btw |
| 13:42.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 13:42.17 | Industrial | outside |
| 13:42.19 | kahdgarxi | outland and silvermoon are the same instance |
| 13:42.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 13:42.44 | krka | yet, there is no direct path between them |
| 13:42.56 | kahdgarxi | true |
| 13:42.56 | krka | that would have rocked, no loading times! |
| 13:42.57 | kahdgarxi | however |
| 13:43.10 | Industrial | Cide: way to comment |
| 13:43.11 | kahdgarxi | if you port from outland to silvermoon, there is no load |
| 13:43.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you get summoned from the exodar, you don't get a loading screen, iirc |
| 13:43.19 | Cide | shattrath has a portal there, doesn't it |
| 13:43.26 | Cide | s/it/it?/ |
| 13:43.27 | krka | oh i see |
| 13:43.38 | krka | i haven't gotten tbc yet so i wouldnt know |
| 13:43.40 | krka | :( |
| 13:43.59 | kahdgarxi | :( |
| 13:45.13 | Corrodias | to get between Silvermoon and Undercity, there is a portal route |
| 13:45.29 | Corrodias | one is behind the throne room of Silvermoon and the other is in the courtyard of Undercity (above ground) |
| 13:45.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | so where outside uc is this portal? |
| 13:45.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | gah |
| 13:45.57 | krka | you mean Overcity? |
| 13:46.01 | Corrodias | on the map, it looks like there might be a passable gate between the ghostlands and EPL, but i haven't gone to look. |
| 13:46.11 | krka | yes, you can go that way too |
| 13:46.13 | Corrodias | it's on the east side of the above-ground courtyard |
| 13:46.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's an instance portal type thing, corr |
| 13:46.41 | Corrodias | you activate a "translocation orb" |
| 13:46.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | though it cuts off like 10 feet behind the portal as the path turns |
| 13:47.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | only thing that's changed in the currently existing world is the npcs being spawned in CoT as far as i know, and the ones in karazhan |
| 13:47.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | being changed |
| 13:48.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | though past hyjal has had a decent overhaul from existing |
| 13:49.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 13:49.26 | Corrodias | so the "existing hyjal" is still around and unused? |
| 13:49.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i bet hellfire is a gankfest |
| 13:49.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 13:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | unchanged |
| 13:49.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | old world tree with archi's skull |
| 13:50.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | with the huge huge huge distance between the bottom of the tree and the well of eternity |
| 13:50.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | now it's closer to the well |
| 13:50.23 | Corrodias | who what? |
| 13:50.26 | Corrodias | when's now? |
| 13:50.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | the past hyjal |
| 13:50.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it looks almost EXACTLY |
| 13:50.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | like the wc3 map |
| 13:50.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's an undead base, a horde base, a ne base, and a human base |
| 13:51.02 | Corrodias | some day i might play WC3 |
| 13:52.22 | Corrodias | i guess i'm going to sleep, now. tomorrow i'll probably start in Outland with my druid, finally |
| 13:52.26 | Corrodias | still healing-specced |
| 13:52.38 | Industrial | kittykat time :D |
| 13:52.45 | Corrodias | weakkitty |
| 13:52.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | dood |
| 13:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i freaking mangle faces now |
| 13:53.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i shred crit for 1850 or so |
| 13:53.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's my highest so far |
| 13:53.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | on a mage in eots |
| 13:53.19 | Industrial | you should see the kitty/bear staffs druids carry now |
| 13:53.22 | Industrial | crasy shit |
| 13:53.23 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:53.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have one :P |
| 13:53.27 | Corrodias | i want more feral points, but you know, i want healing even more. |
| 13:53.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | ursol's claw |
| 13:53.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | bearhandonastick |
| 13:53.31 | Industrial | yeah that one |
| 13:53.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want the tentacle monster staff |
| 13:53.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 13:53.48 | Industrial | :O? |
| 13:53.51 | Corrodias | i'm hoping hellfire has cleared out a little bit, this long after the xpac release. |
| 13:53.53 | Industrial | link! |
| 13:53.54 | Industrial | :D |
| 13:54.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=90VNyaAX-y4 |
| 13:54.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28658 |
| 13:55.29 | Corrodias | now that i'll be spending time in outland, perhaps i should get one of those database-updating addons. or should i just leave that to the hardcore guys who are way ahead of me? |
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| 13:55.49 | Industrial | lol omg |
| 13:55.53 | Industrial | thats wicked |
| 13:57.00 | Industrial | "I EAT JOOR FACE WRYYYY" |
| 13:57.03 | Corrodias | i like allakhazam the best, though |
| 13:57.29 | Industrial | you do not want to get poked with THAT stick xD |
| 13:57.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | who is this trayanise with her tiny arcane guardian and what is she a reference to |
| 13:58.06 | Corrodias | just looks like an amusing bit of flavor, to me |
| 13:58.11 | Corrodias | does she have to refer to something? :( |
| 13:58.28 | Corrodias | have you seen Silvermoon before now? |
| 13:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | pretty much |
| 13:58.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything is a reference if it's not used for a quest, pretty much |
| 13:58.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and even if it is a lot of times |
| 13:58.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, i haven't |
| 14:00.22 | Corrodias | the whole tangle of instances and keys for Outland confuses me |
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| 14:08.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Lol, Zach Braff (yes him) linked this on his blog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvTxgLA3S1M |
| 14:08.39 | Corrodias | lol who? |
| 14:09.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Scrubs mean anything to you? :) |
| 14:10.16 | Corrodias | ah.. no. |
| 14:10.28 | Corrodias | actually, i believe there was a television show with that title |
| 14:13.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 14:13.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | where's the sweatshop with the gnomes in it in silvermoon? |
| 14:13.50 | Corrodias | underneath the tailoring trainer's area |
| 14:13.59 | Corrodias | you must descend the stairs, my pupil |
| 14:14.24 | Corrodias | north end of the Bazaar, as i recall |
| 14:14.43 | Corrodias | and the naaru is in the northeastern corner of the city, under the paladin headquarters |
| 14:14.50 | Corrodias | i'm going to bed, now. see ya |
| 14:20.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | so what are these angry crystals in silvermoon :O |
| 14:23.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh this is just awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Of_mna-Rs "Charlie Brown Christmas - Performed by the Cast of Scrubs" |
| 14:26.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh and I just watched a video of someone take down about 60-70 mobs at once |
| 14:26.27 | kahdgarxi | mage i take it |
| 14:26.51 | sancus | what, one of the old undead invasion videos? |
| 14:27.03 | Kirkburn|afk | No, wait 93 |
| 14:27.21 | Kirkburn|afk | sancus, yeah a compilation one |
| 14:27.27 | kahdgarxi | faxmonkey? |
| 14:27.28 | Kirkburn|afk | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5767167495196384205 |
| 14:27.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Yup |
| 14:28.15 | sancus | yea thats mold |
| 14:28.18 | sancus | almost all of his shit is impossible now |
| 14:28.25 | sancus | because they nerfed aoe to crap |
| 14:28.36 | sancus | ridiculously pve tricks are for warlocks and hunters only =) |
| 14:28.40 | sancus | er ridiculous |
| 14:30.29 | krka | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHW5sC0xBpk&mode=related&search= |
| 14:30.36 | krka | even more scrubs! |
| 14:31.34 | Josh_Borke | hola |
| 14:35.38 | vith_ | so, I want to get my friend from the UK into WoW (i'm in the US). does he need a US account to play on US servers? |
| 14:36.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes |
| 14:36.05 | krka | yes |
| 14:36.24 | Kirkburn|afk | krka, nice vid, but I think the Charlie Brown one just beats it :P |
| 14:36.28 | vith_ | k ty. |
| 14:36.43 | krka | no, i think YOU beat it! |
| 14:39.02 | Josh_Borke | beat it! beat it! no one wants to be defeated! |
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| 15:38.26 | wereHamster | anyone has the link where I could upgrade my wow account? |
| 15:38.46 | kaso | tried the main wow page? |
| 15:38.51 | kaso | big button on it |
| 15:39.45 | wereHamster | heh.. I tend to look at the small letters first.. |
| 15:40.14 | wereHamster | this 'big letters == important' doesn't work on me anymore |
| 15:40.32 | kaso | haha |
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| 15:43.58 | wereHamster | thanks.. operation succeeded, account upgraded :) now I only need to find the time to level my chars.. |
| 15:45.28 | kaso | mm, ive purposely not bought tbc because i know even though i dont really have time to level em, i will anyway, it consumes my life :< |
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| 15:58.13 | zenzelezz | "A Steamy Romance Novel" |
| 15:58.19 | zenzelezz | fun item |
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| 16:59.35 | kaso | i just heard this fact that ive never really thought about, but it adds up |
| 16:59.36 | kaso | "Just as a fun fact, did you know that with a 2ghz CPU if your sitting 1 foot away that in the time the light travels from the screen to your eye that the CPU has done four operations? Modern computers are terrifyingly fast things." |
| 16:59.53 | kaso | its kinda mindblowing |
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| 17:01.20 | Xolan | moo |
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| 17:15.18 | clad | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMLt28n0-M |
| 17:15.21 | clad | hilarious |
| 17:15.32 | clad | and o hai =) |
| 17:17.45 | Xolan | lol |
| 17:17.53 | Xolan | it did flip a little too easy though |
| 17:20.58 | Osagasu | How long have weapon buffs been manually cancelable? |
| 17:21.52 | Shadowed | would have had to be like 2.0 or 1.12 |
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| 17:47.54 | seebs | AAAAARRRGH. |
| 17:48.02 | seebs | I finally fixed Wine so it sends F13-F24 correctly. |
| 17:48.05 | seebs | WoW ignores them. |
| 17:48.20 | Xolan | there's a f13-f24? o_O |
| 17:48.31 | seebs | In the USB and PS/2 spec, yes. On many keyboards, no. |
| 17:48.36 | Xolan | ah |
| 17:48.40 | seebs | But they're valid Windows keyboard codes, and WoW is ignoring them. |
| 17:48.45 | seebs | @#$@!#$. |
| 17:49.06 | seebs | I should double-check under Windows, I have a Mac keyboard with F13-F16. |
| 17:49.11 | Xolan | maybe if you manually edit the bindings? |
| 17:49.20 | seebs | Hmm! Good thought, that. |
| 17:49.57 | Xolan | might I ask what distro you're running btw? :) |
| 17:50.41 | seebs | SuSE. I am thinking about switching to something much more lightweight, though, I don't need all the extra stuff running. |
| 17:51.01 | Xolan | YaST's addictive though |
| 17:51.43 | seebs | Drat. It really is just ignoring those keysyms. !#@$@*!$. |
| 17:52.15 | seebs | I can pretty much prove that they're being passed in from the environment, so it's just the WoW designers filtering "unknown" keys, I think. |
| 17:52.33 | Xolan | yep might be |
| 17:52.47 | seebs | I'll go reboot to my vestigial Windows install just to double-check. |
| 17:52.53 | seebs | Oh, hey. I can check on the Mac, too. |
| 17:52.59 | Xolan | maybe you have other unused keys you could remap to the additional F'keys? |
| 17:54.02 | wereHamster | seebs, you will send the pacth to wine-patches or at least wine-devel, right? |
| 17:54.06 | seebs | Maybe. The problem is that WoW doesn't seem to recognize anything outside the very narrow range of the 101-key keyboard. |
| 17:54.16 | seebs | were: Yeah, although it's UTTERLY trivial. It's a 4-liner. |
| 17:54.24 | seebs | They already have support for F13-F16, it's just pasting in 8 more numbers. |
| 17:54.33 | Xolan | :) |
| 17:55.25 | seebs | Interesting! On the Mac, F13 gets "screen captured" but won't bind to anything, but F16 binds. |
| 17:55.32 | seebs | I wonder if they just steal F13, which is what I was testing. |
| 17:55.51 | kaso | windows wouldnt accept my f13 on my mac board |
| 17:55.55 | wereHamster | doesn't F13 map to printscreen on mac? |
| 17:56.16 | wereHamster | because on my keyboard printscreen is just right of F12 |
| 17:56.17 | kaso | (i mean Wow on windows) |
| 17:56.30 | kaso | i never tried 14 to 16 |
| 17:58.19 | seebs | F13 might map to printscreen on the mac, that'd make sense. |
| 17:58.29 | seebs | I'll test it out in a minute, once Windows is done booting. |
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| 18:02.17 | seebs | Well, okay, in an hour once WoW is done patching. |
| 18:02.32 | kaso | haha |
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| 18:04.04 | foxlit | Is there an API call that would return true if an item can be used, and false otherwise? |
| 18:06.46 | Gryphen | IsUsableItem? |
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| 18:13.00 | foxlit | Does that just check the presence of a Use: line, or that it's also valid in the context? |
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| 18:17.23 | Cide | it's definitely not context sensitive |
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| 18:38.52 | malreth | RAWR!!! |
| 18:38.59 | kergoth | meh |
| 18:39.01 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 18:39.02 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 18:41.33 | wereHamster | http://www.destroymornings.com/solution.php - Not Found |
| 18:41.44 | wereHamster | pictures.php is also missing :( |
| 18:41.55 | kergoth | :( |
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| 18:49.05 | foxlit | Problem: |
| 18:49.05 | foxlit | <PushedTexture alphaMode="BLEND" file="Interface\Buttons\UI-Quickslot-Depress"/> |
| 18:49.32 | foxlit | When you actually push the button, it simply displays Quickslot-Depress -- how do I get it to use both that and NormalTexture? |
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| 18:58.36 | sysrage | how do i find the IDs for spells? i'm trying to hack up cryolysis to add the new portal to shatt |
| 18:59.00 | foxlit | IDs are just parameters to GetSpell? |
| 18:59.15 | foxlit | You don't exactly have fixed IDs to work with, they flux depending on what's in your spellbook. |
| 19:00.37 | sysrage | hmm. well this LUA lists 30, 40, 39, 37, 51, 46, 47, 31, 30, 28, 29, 27 as Org, UC, TB, Shatt, IF, SW, and Darn |
| 19:00.38 | Taktaal | hm doesnt curse-gaming have a way to delete screenshots? |
| 19:00.40 | foxlit | Yes, it does. |
| 19:00.45 | sysrage | err no shat in that list |
| 19:01.10 | foxlit | Got a link to some of that lua? |
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| 19:01.21 | sysrage | oh i think i know where it's getting those numbers |
| 19:01.22 | sysrage | sec |
| 19:02.15 | sysrage | ya. i found um. they're in a localization file |
| 19:04.51 | foxlit | GetSpellID(SpellName) |
| 19:05.11 | foxlit | But if you have the name, why bother with getting the ID? |
| 19:05.26 | sysrage | it's not the spell ID i found out. it's just a localization ID |
| 19:06.27 | foxlit | If you're going to provide localization, might as well work with spell names. If you're not, you probably have to work around through textures. |
| 19:06.58 | seebs | #@!$!$@#. |
| 19:07.05 | sysrage | ya I didn't write this mod. just trying to hack it to work with the new portals. it already as the name stuff built in as far as i can tell |
| 19:07.07 | seebs | Now I have to try to patch Wine to generate "control-F1" for F13. |
| 19:07.22 | Kirov | F13? |
| 19:07.29 | seebs | All my "wine troubles" with function keys turn out to just be WoW not supporting the full range of keys. |
| 19:07.30 | seebs | Yes. |
| 19:07.37 | seebs | Windows defines and recognizes F13-F24. |
| 19:07.50 | seebs | Not all keyboards have them, but they're bog-standard key codes, and other video games can bind them. |
| 19:08.20 | seebs | WoW is specifically filtering them out and discarding them when Windows sends them. |
| 19:11.57 | foxlit | Lua has a continue; right? |
| 19:12.24 | Kirov | no |
| 19:12.28 | Kirov | only break |
| 19:12.35 | foxlit | Bah |
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| 19:12.54 | Kirov | For table iteration it has a "next", which is close, but not quite the same. |
| 19:16.34 | foxlit | Hm, darn it, TBC made twintrinkets insanely hard to maintain. |
| 19:17.10 | foxlit | My little compact table handling all "interesting" trinkets suddenly needs to gain about 20 more entries. |
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| 19:25.55 | seebs | Wait, there's a next? NEAT. |
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| 19:31.59 | kergoth | seebs: the next function gets the next element from the table given the current element, it isnt a loop control mechanism directly |
| 19:46.19 | foxlit | Lunacy. |
| 19:46.32 | foxlit | GetPlayerBuffName() takes a buffname, GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft() doesn't. |
| 19:47.53 | Xolan | hehe |
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| 20:08.25 | pastamancer | foxlit: figuring out the inconsistencies in the buff/aura api is a fun and interesting mini-game :p |
| 20:09.19 | foxlit | I've got what I wanted out of it, though |
| 20:10.02 | foxlit | Can now tell whether it's safe to deequip a trinket automatically, rather then relying on precoded presets. |
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| 20:23.02 | foxlit | http://wowi.pastey.net/5384 |
| 20:23.15 | foxlit | I can't figure out why my NormalText fails to produce any actual on-screen output |
| 20:24.23 | Xolan | didn't know there was such a thing as NormalText even :) |
| 20:24.40 | foxlit | Ah, think I remember. |
| 20:26.06 | foxlit | Deprecated in 1.10 in favour of NormalFont. D'oh. |
| 20:26.06 | Xolan | :) |
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| 20:26.06 | Xolan | what's the difference between that and FontString? |
| 20:26.06 | foxlit | Button:SetText() works directly |
| 20:26.06 | Xolan | ah |
| 20:26.07 | Xolan | sweet |
| 20:26.07 | foxlit | Plus it can be modified directly by the button's state - i.e. when disabled, it can look different. |
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| 20:26.23 | Xolan | can do that with fontstring too |
| 20:26.23 | foxlit | Without you having to write extra code |
| 20:26.26 | Xolan | more work though |
| 20:26.27 | Xolan | yep |
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| 20:31.58 | Xolan | bleetah and bleeter not the same chap? |
| 20:32.58 | bleetah | they are, one's living inside screen(1) on my server, the other's my desktop |
| 20:42.31 | Xolan | ah |
| 20:42.35 | Xolan | why?... |
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| 20:53.54 | Cairenn | hey guys :) |
| 20:54.00 | Xolan | hola :) |
| 20:54.33 | Cairenn | question, does anyone happen to recall the number combination for '? |
| 20:55.06 | Cairenn | ' is the one I'm looking for, realized that didn't come across real well the first time |
| 20:56.25 | foxlit | Single quote? |
| 20:56.27 | foxlit | in ASCII? |
| 20:56.30 | Cairenn | aye |
| 20:56.47 | foxlit | 39 |
| 20:56.49 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:57.42 | krka | http://asciitable.com/ |
| 20:58.11 | Cairenn | thanks guys, much appreciated :) |
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| 20:58.21 | Cairenn | Only way to get them into character/guild names is to use the code |
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| 20:58.58 | Xolan | what you working on? :) |
| 20:59.08 | Cairenn | new guild name is all |
| 20:59.39 | Xolan | ah |
| 20:59.49 | Xolan | they accept ASCII? cool |
| 20:59.51 | Elkano | wait, you can have ' in a char name? by using \039? \027? |
| 20:59.59 | Cairenn | yup |
| 21:00.09 | Cairenn | but you run the risk of having a GM change your name |
| 21:00.12 | Elkano | is it the first or thelatter? |
| 21:00.13 | Xolan | ;P |
| 21:00.32 | Cairenn | if you look on the web site, they say you aren't supposed to use them |
| 21:00.50 | Xolan | well I didn't look *wink* |
| 21:00.53 | Cairenn | alt + the 2 or 3 digits (on the number pad) to get them into game |
| 21:00.57 | bleetah | standard letters only on your locale's keyboard |
| 21:01.09 | Cairenn | yup, that's what you are *supposed* to do |
| 21:01.17 | Cairenn | character names, I've had one changed |
| 21:01.22 | Cairenn | guild name, less likely to happen |
| 21:02.13 | Cairenn | but that's how you see folks running around with things like the cojoined AE, etc |
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| 21:02.41 | bleetah | basically it boils down to: hard to report the name, and annoying for the GMs to track down the player |
| 21:02.50 | Cairenn | yup, precisely |
| 21:03.03 | Cairenn | which is why they are much less likely to fuss about them in guild names |
| 21:03.25 | Xolan | you mean Æ ? |
| 21:03.40 | bleetah | and afaik, if someone reports an 'illegal' name, they *have* to change it |
| 21:03.49 | Cairenn | yup |
| 21:04.07 | Cairenn | they made me change mine |
| 21:04.15 | Xolan | æ/Æ ain't illegal though :) |
| 21:04.24 | bleetah | yeah, my two chars named for Don Quixote characters had to change their names... Perez and Rocin |
| 21:04.51 | bleetah | and no, I'm not going to hunt up the charset that they really used ;) |
| 21:12.42 | TonyD | can anyone tell me what addon or addons will keep track of party damage, healing, etc? |
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| 21:13.00 | TonyD | like, so I could do a report to chat on how much each person did, and dps and stuff? |
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| 21:15.57 | Xolan | DamageMeters, Recap, SWS loads to choose from |
| 21:18.25 | TonyD | found damagemeters, think it's the one I was looking for |
| 21:18.40 | Xolan | prefer recap myself though :) |
| 21:19.29 | kergoth | i kinda like minnastats, if the guy would fix the occasional errors |
| 21:19.46 | Xolan | yep, or SWS, which works great |
| 21:20.06 | Xolan | seems fairly accurate when 3-4 people are synched anyways |
| 21:20.40 | foxlit | changing combat log range makes syncing redundant |
| 21:20.52 | foxlit | almost :) |
| 21:21.05 | Xolan | almost :) |
| 21:21.16 | Xolan | you can't have infinate range can you? :P |
| 21:21.21 | MageRooster | Hrmm, with KLHThreatMeters... does everyone have to have it installed for it to track other people's hate? |
| 21:21.28 | Xolan | yes |
| 21:21.29 | kergoth | MageRooster: yep |
| 21:21.34 | MageRooster | Ahh, that explains it. |
| 21:21.35 | foxlit | 200 yards is pretty darn far. |
| 21:21.47 | Xolan | hehe, would suffice yes |
| 21:21.58 | Xolan | noone should be 201 yards away from the action anyways ;P |
| 21:22.07 | MageRooster | No, no they shouldn't. |
| 21:22.13 | MageRooster | I'm not even sure if things get up to 50. |
| 21:22.25 | foxlit | 50 is easy |
| 21:22.31 | foxlit | Hunter range is 41. |
| 21:22.46 | foxlit | Two hutners on the opposite sides of the boss = 82 |
| 21:22.59 | MageRooster | Oh, opposite sides. |
| 21:23.08 | MageRooster | Alright... but still... 50*2... >.> |
| 21:23.23 | MageRooster | I can also get 41 yards on mage with extended reach talents on Fireball. |
| 21:23.25 | MageRooster | (35+2x3) |
| 21:23.42 | foxlit | Don't really care, someone has 41 yard range is the point :) |
| 21:23.58 | foxlit | But you can exceed 100 as well |
| 21:24.16 | foxlit | Suppose now that there are healers tanding behind the hunters. |
| 21:24.32 | foxlit | Ranged dps groups, etc; healers would want to be at max range to avoid AoE effects. |
| 21:24.44 | MageRooster | Arr. That'd be a huge mess. :D |
| 21:26.19 | Xolan | I usually stay at hunter range (I'm a priest) to stay out of AoE effects. Problem is, hunter's are the most common numpties and don't always stand where they should :-) |
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| 21:29.18 | Dundir | hey guys |
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| 21:32.27 | Dundir | When working with actionbar mods has anyone ever recieved a string "ActionButton#"OnClick"]:14: Unknown unit token:1 |
| 21:32.32 | Dundir | error |
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| 21:47.16 | TC_Working | I.T. wins GG http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.html |
| 21:47.43 | Scre3m | Dundir, you may want to ask that in #norganna |
| 21:48.02 | bleetah | ? |
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| 21:48.31 | bleetah | Scre3m: it's early in the morning... please explain why #norganna? |
| 21:48.43 | Scre3m | its the auctioneer channel |
| 21:48.55 | bleetah | yeah.. what's that got to do with actionbar mods? |
| 21:48.56 | Scre3m | oh im sorry, i misread your question |
| 21:49.18 | Scre3m | i read "action" as auction" lol |
| 21:49.28 | Scre3m | (0)(o) |
| 21:49.53 | Dundir | heh |
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| 22:00.34 | foxlit | Hm, interesting. |
| 22:00.42 | foxlit | Lifebloom ticks stack, but the end heal doesn't |
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| 22:18.27 | clad|work | yeah |
| 22:18.38 | clad|work | foxlight: thats intentional, but still nice |
| 22:26.41 | Industrial | keep noticing these words we use in dutch that are used in english |
| 22:26.45 | Industrial | stool - chair |
| 22:26.53 | Industrial | (stoel) |
| 22:27.02 | Industrial | bloom - flower (bloem) |
| 22:27.16 | Industrial | strand - beach (strand :P) |
| 22:27.20 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 22:27.21 | zenzelezz | you'll see the same with German, French, nordic languages |
| 22:27.58 | Industrial | yeah i can skim danish text and know what its about most of the times |
| 22:28.06 | Industrial | well, not in detail |
| 22:28.08 | zenzelezz | just don't try to listen to them |
| 22:28.19 | Industrial | xD |
| 22:28.19 | zenzelezz | their written and spoken is like two different languages |
| 22:30.32 | weazer | Im danish |
| 22:32.42 | bleetah | Industrial: English is, in fact, a Germanic language. Dutch (or Nederlandse) is pretty close to English if you remove all the Latin stuff we've got. |
| 22:33.25 | bleetah | Dutch guy I new swore blind that the Swedish Chef from the Muppets was really Dutch ;) |
| 22:33.35 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:33.47 | Industrial | well i could never understand :S |
| 22:33.55 | Industrial | bork bork bork! |
| 22:34.26 | Industrial | i think the anglo-saxons had ties with Friesland (dutch province) but i cant remember, too long ago (school) |
| 22:36.31 | bleetah | well, the reason you use the word 'Dutch' is because of ignorant sailors who thought the Nedelandse peoples were German (Deutsch) |
| 22:37.09 | foxlit | Netherlandese? |
| 22:37.45 | bleetah | Nederlandse is the language name, from memory |
| 22:38.10 | bleetah | you'll find most european countries correctly translate the name as 'Low Lands' or similar |
| 22:38.29 | bleetah | hence, we have in English, 'Hole Land' ;) |
| 22:38.56 | bleetah | more than happy for an EU person to correct me :) |
| 22:39.27 | bleetah | my memories of working in Holland are... sketchy ;) |
| 22:39.44 | bleetah | well, the social times anyway where most of this discourse took place *cough* |
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| 22:57.31 | TC_Working | umm... Industrial, stool also means "feces" in english |
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| 23:19.50 | Tem | can anyone see this? |
| 23:19.55 | Tem | I think my network died |
| 23:20.00 | foxlit | You're fine |
| 23:20.05 | Tem | damn |
| 23:20.18 | Tem | my network dying would be a whole lot easier to fix |
| 23:20.25 | TC_Working | heh |
| 23:20.34 | TC_Working | lazy lazy tech |
| 23:21.08 | Tem | well.. |
| 23:21.20 | Tem | I dunno how to fix this one |
| 23:21.25 | Tem | ubuntu |
| 23:21.55 | Tem | bah |
| 23:21.57 | Tem | I fixed it |
| 23:22.03 | bleetah | man ifconfig |
| 23:22.07 | bleetah | ah, good stuff :P |
| 23:24.44 | TC_Working | L2linux |
| 23:24.52 | TC_Working | .... |
| 23:24.56 | TC_Working | ~shoot TC_Working |
| 23:25.06 | purl | ACTION shoots TC_Working in the head with a quantum singularity weapon! |
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| 23:38.11 | Tierrie|Work | heyo |
| 23:38.53 | Cairenn|afk | hi Tierrie|Work |
| 23:42.25 | Corrodias | the current author of Cryolysis needs help, man. |
| 23:42.58 | Tierrie|Work | hi Cairenn|afk! |
| 23:43.05 | Tierrie|Work | i don't use cryo :( |
| 23:43.09 | foxlit | "current author"? |
| 23:43.10 | Tierrie|Work | Hi Cairenn|unafk |
| 23:43.14 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:45.21 | Corrodias | i believe it's currently under ownership of someone other than the original author |
| 23:47.07 | Tierrie|Work | ja well |
| 23:47.10 | Tierrie|Work | people come and go |
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| 23:47.51 | Tierrie|Work | anyway! according to my maths, it only takes like 1200 dreadfang venom sac and 1500 signets to switch from scryers to aldor entirely! |
| 23:48.10 | Tierrie|Work | time to play off those two factions like a fiddle |
| 23:48.10 | a-stray-cat | anyone know the max amount of info you can send via SendAddonMessage()? |
| 23:48.21 | foxlit | wiki knows |
| 23:48.27 | a-stray-cat | it does! |
| 23:48.32 | a-stray-cat | then i shall consult the wiki. |
| 23:48.44 | a-stray-cat | oh, im blind |
| 23:48.46 | a-stray-cat | its like right there. |
| 23:48.52 | a-stray-cat | thx |
| 23:49.10 | foxlit | While you're at it, see if it actually crashes if you try to send 256 chars :) |
| 23:49.47 | a-stray-cat | ;) |
| 23:50.25 | Tierrie|Work | i kind of want them to release another expansion now |
| 23:50.31 | Tierrie|Work | i don't like raiding as much asi I thought |
| 23:50.40 | Tierrie|Work | i do like leveling and faction grinding though |
| 23:51.04 | foxlit | faction grinding? |
| 23:51.13 | Tierrie|Work | yeah just killing crap to raise faction |
| 23:51.16 | Tierrie|Work | its a lot like leveling |
| 23:51.34 | foxlit | Part of the word grind implies that it isn't fun. |
| 23:51.43 | Tierrie|Work | is it the "gr"? |
| 23:51.56 | foxlit | grrrr! |
| 23:52.31 | Tierrie|Work | haha |
| 23:52.36 | Tierrie|Work | its not that bad |
| 23:52.45 | a-stray-cat | i rather dislike faction grinding :P |
| 23:52.57 | Tierrie|Work | all the dungeons piss me off. not because its not fun, but because of the company i keep in the guild i guess |
| 23:52.58 | a-stray-cat | the only factions i got to exaulted were the pvp ones :< |
| 23:53.07 | a-stray-cat | find a new guild then ;p |
| 23:53.24 | Tierrie|Work | can't.. been in it too long |
| 23:53.36 | Tierrie|Work | signed life contract |
| 23:53.41 | Tierrie|Work | also know the guy irl |
| 23:53.45 | a-stray-cat | so |
| 23:53.50 | Tierrie|Work | we're good friends, we're just both, kinda alpha players |
| 23:53.51 | a-stray-cat | i left my irl friends guild to go raiding |
| 23:53.52 | a-stray-cat | ! |
| 23:54.19 | a-stray-cat | well not really |
| 23:54.21 | a-stray-cat | that was in ffxi |
| 23:54.25 | a-stray-cat | >.> |
| 23:54.37 | a-stray-cat | and they'd all quit the game by then <.< |
| 23:55.28 | bleetah | is the shattrath trade channel only local to shattrath? |
| 23:56.33 | bleetah | hmm, would seem that way... 'Trade - Shattrah City' as opposed to 'Trade - City' |
| 23:58.16 | bleetah | I guess this is for factional foo? Could someone confirm for me, please, that when aligning Scryer/Aldor that the trade channel name doesn't change? |