| 00:00.30 | kaso | I want to be able to do "ClearLines()" on a tooltip without loosing the GetItem() info, i cant think of a way to do this, Doing a script to nil out all the text Lines just causes AddLine() to use higher text lines. Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 00:03.29 | Mr_Rabies2|away | so uh |
| 00:03.32 | Mr_Rabies2|away | what's in 2.0.5 |
| 00:03.33 | Mr_Rabies2|away | O_o |
| 00:03.56 | zenzelezz | only a graphical, client-side fix IIRC |
| 00:04.17 | kaso | http://www.pastey.net/5113 |
| 00:04.18 | kaso | that |
| 00:04.44 | kaso | the DO NOT USE is so tempting |
| 00:05.13 | kaso | thats like having a big red "dont push this" button |
| 00:05.24 | foxlit | Hey, I should get one in my addon |
| 00:05.34 | Mr_Rabies2|away | rofl |
| 00:05.38 | zenzelezz | kaso: "wet paint" |
| 00:05.42 | Mr_Rabies2|away | *DO NOT PRESS* |
| 00:05.45 | foxlit | Upon pressing, hook GetInventoryItem / GetContainerItem to just return nothing |
| 00:05.48 | foxlit | zomg, gear is gone! |
| 00:06.04 | Mr_Rabies2|away | um |
| 00:06.06 | Mr_Rabies2|away | umumum |
| 00:06.18 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i had a bug with wardrobe that was actually a blizzard bug |
| 00:06.25 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i zoned into BWL and had all my healer gear missing |
| 00:06.51 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: Blizzard was trying to tell you your class can DPS too |
| 00:06.54 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i check wardrobe and its like "Could Not Find Stormrage blah" etc |
| 00:07.05 | Mr_Rabies2|away | then i check my invo |
| 00:07.08 | Mr_Rabies2|away | and it's not there :O |
| 00:07.18 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i zone out and it's back though O_o |
| 00:07.45 | foxlit | How do I assign a hotkey to a stateheader? |
| 00:07.48 | Hobinheim | do you happen to know of any low level mobs that give a magic debuff? |
| 00:07.54 | foxlit | And how do I get the stateheader to react? |
| 00:08.02 | foxlit | Find any defias mages, probably. Frost armor |
| 00:08.14 | Hobinheim | defias...? |
| 00:08.15 | Mr_Rabies2|away | <Hobinheim> do you happen to know of any low level mobs that give a magic debuff? |
| 00:08.21 | Mr_Rabies2|away | define low level |
| 00:08.24 | zenzelezz | hm, magic... |
| 00:08.32 | Hobinheim | like accessible to a 58 |
| 00:08.35 | Mr_Rabies2|away | oh |
| 00:08.36 | Mr_Rabies2|away | barrens |
| 00:08.44 | Mr_Rabies2|away | hit up the caster quilboars |
| 00:08.44 | Hobinheim | i specifically need a magic debuff |
| 00:08.47 | foxlit | elwynn populace :) |
| 00:08.49 | Hobinheim | they don't curse? |
| 00:08.50 | Mr_Rabies2|away | they have faerie fire |
| 00:08.53 | Hobinheim | nice nice nice.... |
| 00:08.54 | Hobinheim | ty |
| 00:09.11 | Mr_Rabies2|away | specifically the ones closest to XR do |
| 00:09.14 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i'm fairly certain |
| 00:09.34 | zenzelezz | if not, the harpies in northwest might have some |
| 00:09.34 | Hobinheim | i might actually publish a mod today =P |
| 00:09.39 | Xolan | quick question: is TOC still 20003? |
| 00:09.43 | foxlit | Yes |
| 00:09.44 | Hobinheim | so excitering |
| 00:09.48 | zenzelezz | but can't remember if that's magic or something else |
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| 00:10.01 | Bajawoojie | Hey guys |
| 00:10.03 | Bajawoojie | I need some help |
| 00:10.26 | Bajawoojie | Anyone here an "expert" with WoW UI designer? |
| 00:10.41 | Xolan | I've fiddled with it |
| 00:10.44 | Xolan | not an expert tho |
| 00:10.47 | Bajawoojie | Mhmm |
| 00:10.49 | Hobinheim | imo the best UIs come from rigorous amounts of copying =( |
| 00:10.51 | Mr_Rabies2|away | hrmmmmm |
| 00:10.53 | Bajawoojie | well, i just want to know how to make somthing lol |
| 00:10.53 | Hobinheim | i don't know how anyone gets anything done |
| 00:11.00 | Bajawoojie | im 100% noob at it |
| 00:11.09 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i need to find the guy that's updating cooldowncount for 2.0 :x |
| 00:11.12 | Bajawoojie | I can learn myself once I get going, but I d ont know where to start |
| 00:11.18 | Hobinheim | my suggestino would be to find a mod that either looks or acts like what you need |
| 00:11.37 | Bajawoojie | mhmm |
| 00:11.47 | Mr_Rabies2|away | plus using wowwiki |
| 00:11.55 | Xolan | I suggest reading http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ is you want an introduction to the xml |
| 00:11.58 | Xolan | *if |
| 00:12.04 | Bajawoojie | ok |
| 00:12.12 | Bajawoojie | thanks |
| 00:12.18 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i tried that myself and i'm a lost cause, but i think there's some pretty nice tutorials that could help someone with more programming skill than i :P |
| 00:12.29 | Xolan | if you've worked with xml before it shouldn't be that hard to understand :) |
| 00:12.37 | Bajawoojie | Its not the xml thats hard |
| 00:12.40 | Bajawoojie | its just, I dont know what to do lol |
| 00:12.53 | Xolan | well first you'd need an idea :P |
| 00:13.01 | Hobinheim | i like bold |
| 00:13.02 | Mr_Rabies2|away | boooold |
| 00:13.08 | Mr_Rabies2|away | i love boooooooold |
| 00:13.14 | Bajawoojie | Ok, lets say I want to make a mod that shows my money in a little window that you can drag around |
| 00:13.17 | Xolan | oh, how did this happen >.< |
| 00:13.22 | Bajawoojie | just a little tiny window, that I can drag around |
| 00:13.26 | Bajawoojie | and it shows my current money |
| 00:14.21 | Hobinheim | been looking at blizzard tutorials much? =P |
| 00:14.21 | kaso | Bajawoojie, check out the example in the Blizzard UI Tutorials |
| 00:14.21 | Bajawoojie | Mmkay |
| 00:14.22 | kaso | you know where to find that? |
| 00:14.22 | Bajawoojie | nope |
| 00:14.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't CTCP version you Xolan, :x |
| 00:14.22 | kaso | ~FrameXML |
| 00:14.38 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 00:14.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | what irc client are you using? O_o |
| 00:14.41 | Bajawoojie | who me? |
| 00:14.41 | Bajawoojie | ~FrameXML? |
| 00:14.44 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip |
| 00:14.44 | Xolan | turned off the bold now :P |
| 00:14.46 | Xolan | using Trillian |
| 00:14.46 | Bajawoojie | ok |
| 00:14.50 | Bajawoojie | <3 trillian |
| 00:14.51 | Bajawoojie | me too |
| 00:14.54 | kaso | Download that, extract the interface and check out the "Show me the Money" tutorial bajawoo |
| 00:14.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like purl was lagged |
| 00:14.58 | zenzelezz | someone was using bold? o_O |
| 00:15.04 | Bajawoojie | thanks kaso |
| 00:15.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | trillian's irc plugin is for chumps |
| 00:15.12 | kaso | BOLD |
| 00:15.21 | Bajawoojie | trillian is teh pwn |
| 00:15.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | REVERSE TEXT FORMATTING |
| 00:15.25 | Xolan | yeah I was zenz, hit it when copying an url :P |
| 00:15.26 | zenzelezz | oh, that's right... I strip colors/bold/underline/reverse |
| 00:15.42 | Bajawoojie | Kaso, you stay on IRC? I might message you later on |
| 00:15.48 | kaso | sure |
| 00:15.54 | Bajawoojie | thanks |
| 00:16.02 | Hobinheim | you can't say bold on an airplane |
| 00:16.05 | kaso | Now, ive helped someone, Someone help me please! |
| 00:16.15 | Bajawoojie | lol |
| 00:16.37 | kaso | I want to be able to do "ClearLines()" on a tooltip without loosing the GetItem() info, i cant think of a way to do this, Doing a script to nil out all the text Lines just causes AddLine() to just use higher text lines. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 00:16.41 | Osagasu | Has anyone around transferred a character? |
| 00:16.45 | Osagasu | Paid, that is. |
| 00:17.21 | Bajawoojie | not me |
| 00:17.26 | nymbia | kaso: you'll have to just replace the text in the current lines without using AddLine() |
| 00:18.28 | kaso | the problem is, im doing this to avoid breaking other addons wanting to use the tooltip, so short of meta-hooking GameTooltip.AddLine i cant do that, and the metahook would be quite resource heavy |
| 00:19.25 | kaso | i guess i could Hook GetItem |
| 00:19.25 | nymbia | kaso: what's wrong with just replacing the text of whatever lines you wanna replace? |
| 00:19.57 | kaso | hmm actually, i see what you mean |
| 00:20.00 | kaso | lemme test something |
| 00:20.54 | nymbia | just GameTooltipTextLeft1:SetText() type stuff |
| 00:22.02 | Hobinheim | having mega resist isn't helpful when you want to test something |
| 00:22.20 | Hobinheim | how about level 58 magic mobs? |
| 00:22.30 | kaso | yah, i just wanna test Show(), for example, Tooltip has 30 lines, i want to show a tooltip with just 3 lines, i set text on 1-3 then SetText(nil) on the rest, but does Show() crop the tooltip to just the visible ones, or the ones i've hidden also because they're not "magically" marked as free |
| 00:22.32 | zenzelezz | go to some zone with higher mobs... I'm sure there's magic somewhere in Felwood or EPL |
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| 00:23.09 | kaso | hobinhein in Silithus the twilight "miniboss" at the western camp does SW:Pain iirc |
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| 00:26.03 | kaso | ok then, umm try the "mage" skeltons at felstone field in EPL, wack em and you'll get their ice shield on you. |
| 00:26.10 | nymbia | kaso: let me know the results, i'm interested in that too ;) |
| 00:27.10 | foxlit | Hm, there's only one slight problem with my keybinding code. |
| 00:27.34 | foxlit | Bindings.xml keybindings work on KeyDown; SetBindingClick() works on KeyUp :/ |
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| 00:27.41 | foxlit | Feels laggy. |
| 00:28.37 | nymbia | foxlit: SetBindingSpell/Macro/Item had the same problem, i had to bother slouken about it |
| 00:29.00 | foxlit | Did something come out of that? |
| 00:29.11 | nymbia | sure, they're on KeyUp now ;) |
| 00:29.27 | foxlit | KeyDown, you mean? |
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| 00:30.22 | nymbia | sorry, i was confused. they're on KeyUp. everything in the default ui is. the only things that maybe arent for you is actionbars...? |
| 00:30.46 | foxlit | If I define a binding through Bindings.xml, it'll be called on keydown too. |
| 00:31.10 | foxlit | (there's probably an up/down variable somewhere) |
| 00:32.09 | nymbia | lemme poke around with this real quick |
| 00:32.16 | nymbia | boo, 7 person queue |
| 00:32.56 | Thunder_Child | boo?...i have a 455 person queue |
| 00:33.24 | foxlit | nymbia: any help on isPriority? I can't seem to figure out what that is for. |
| 00:34.04 | nymbia | foxlit: right you are, casting stuff is the only stuff that's on keyup |
| 00:34.48 | nymbia | foxlit: i'm not sure myself ;) i've never used the override stuff, just the basic ones. |
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| 00:37.50 | kaso | nymbia Show() seems to use the visibility of the FontStrings, so thats perfect for my use, thanks. |
| 00:38.15 | nymbia | kaso: awesome. what're you doing with it, out of curiosity? |
| 00:39.24 | kaso | ok, basically im re-writing the tooltip so its "neater", before i was just ClearLines() then re-writing as i see fit, but now there's tooltip:GetItem() that'll break if i constantly ClearLines() So any addon trying to use it will be buggered |
| 00:39.40 | kaso | so im fixing that now :> |
| 00:40.16 | nymbia | kaso: sounds good :) |
| 00:40.21 | kaso | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info6505-JTips.html some screenshots there |
| 00:41.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1day 4hrs 18mins 59secs until Burning Crusade. |
| 00:41.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 00:41.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | DUN DUN DUUNNNNNNN |
| 00:41.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh snap my server has a queue of 200 |
| 00:41.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
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| 00:42.07 | zenzelezz | I used to play on US-Arthas... had a pretty bad queue |
| 00:42.09 | Guillotine | ROFL. in Tekkub's Cockpit (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6440-Cockpit.html) the first part of "cockpit" is starred out :P |
| 00:42.14 | zenzelezz | wonder if they fixed that |
| 00:42.35 | Guillotine | I have to say I love Tekkub's screenshots |
| 00:46.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | reminds me of the druid shapeshiting mana reduction |
| 00:47.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | there should be an option to bring up a frame of an f16 cockpit when you go into first person too |
| 00:47.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | full screen frame of an engine cockpit :O |
| 00:47.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | er, plane, wth |
| 00:48.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | engine O_o |
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| 00:54.35 | Xolan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6743 v0.2 of my compass if anyone's interested :) |
| 00:54.40 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 00:54.50 | Xolan | wb |
| 00:56.16 | Swado | lol nice mod |
| 00:56.31 | Swado | anyone got a square minimap mod? |
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| 01:12.28 | TonyD | Swado: try ricoMiniMap |
| 01:12.43 | TonyD | it has a fre nify shapes |
| 01:12.48 | TonyD | few nifty |
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| 01:15.31 | JoshBorke | does it have pyramidal? |
| 01:16.30 | TonyD | heh, not atm |
| 01:16.58 | TonyD | has one where it's square in 3 corners, round on the bottom right |
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| 01:23.39 | TonyD | hehe, no maintenance on xpac day |
| 01:23.49 | TonyD | who'd thought |
| 01:32.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | no planned maintenance* |
| 01:33.30 | zenzelezz | hehe |
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| 01:34.42 | break19 | wife and I wont get ours til the end of the week, perhaps as late as early next week.. |
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| 01:37.39 | zenzelezz | I feel your pain break19 |
| 01:40.03 | break19 | wife and I cant wait to go to outland lol |
| 01:40.32 | JoshBorke | i can, man the first few weeks are going to be hell on PvP servers |
| 01:43.32 | Gngsk | meh, at least they'll have something to do |
| 01:43.36 | Gngsk | better than just waiting for quest mobs to spawn |
| 01:43.48 | cladhaire | yeah that was rough even on beta |
| 01:43.58 | cladhaire | waiting for the one mob to spawn =( |
| 01:44.09 | Nom- | >:( |
| 01:44.19 | Nom- | WTB store that actually releases TBC on the release date |
| 01:44.30 | Nom- | I *may* not get my TBC until the 18th or 19th |
| 01:44.31 | cladhaire | i can get a normal copy at midnight |
| 01:44.44 | cladhaire | but i won't activate with it =) |
| 01:44.55 | zenzelezz | I'm probably going to stalk some stores around here even though I have the game ordered |
| 01:46.17 | break19 | yea, we ordered ours last week... wally world :) |
| 01:46.41 | zenzelezz | recently I've had some "why?"s from guildies regarding my decision to just stay protection spec while leveling 60->70... getting annoying :-p |
| 01:46.46 | break19 | got the cheapest S+H too.. thats why it wont be here til 19-23rd :p |
| 01:47.12 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:48.25 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.34 | Nom- | lol |
| 01:49.44 | Nom- | if you've got a good whacking stick, then why not stay as prot? |
| 01:50.14 | zenzelezz | well, my decision is twofold... I have no DPS gear, and I expect protection can come in handy in the 5-mans ;) |
| 01:50.55 | Nom- | indeed |
| 01:56.16 | Lasivian | So, Bagnon is broke for me, what's the next best? |
| 01:56.56 | break19 | onebag ? |
| 01:57.15 | Lasivian | right now any recommendation is good, heh |
| 02:02.46 | Nom- | I've oned the One* series of mods for a while with no problems |
| 02:04.28 | Kaelten | :) |
| 02:04.41 | Kaelten | Lasivian: give OneBag a try. |
| 02:04.51 | Kaelten | I'm biased though |
| 02:04.59 | JoshBorke | don't listen to his propaganda! |
| 02:05.13 | JoshBorke | listen to mine instead! |
| 02:05.18 | JoshBorke | use OneBag ;-) |
| 02:05.26 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/files/OneBag/OneBag-r23716.zip |
| 02:05.28 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/files/OneBank/OneBank-r23717.zip |
| 02:05.39 | Nom- | OneView |
| 02:05.42 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/files/OneRing/OneRing-r23719.zip |
| 02:05.54 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/files/OneView/OneView-r25078.zip |
| 02:06.11 | Kaelten | There ya go, its modulized for easy customization. |
| 02:06.21 | Nom- | Bah, just install them all |
| 02:06.22 | Nom- | I do :P |
| 02:06.25 | Xolan | :) |
| 02:06.36 | Nom- | I don't know what OneRing does, but I still have it installed :P |
| 02:06.38 | JoshBorke | he means to say it's modulized for easy dissimination of hacking tools ;-) |
| 02:06.55 | Xolan | also have a look at ArkInventory :) |
| 02:06.57 | Kaelten | Nom-: it just makes the keyring look like a OneBag module. |
| 02:07.05 | Kaelten | if you don't install it it uses the default bag |
| 02:07.12 | Nom- | oic |
| 02:07.19 | Nom- | never really not run it |
| 02:07.20 | Nom- | so meh |
| 02:07.46 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:07.54 | Kaelten | plus it allowed me to have an addon named OneRing |
| 02:07.56 | Nom- | I don't think there's a single UI element in my WoW install that hasn't at least been added to by a mod |
| 02:08.02 | Kaelten | I resisted putting The before it though |
| 02:08.09 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 02:08.39 | Nom- | actually |
| 02:08.47 | Nom- | The character sheet hasn't been modified ... yet |
| 02:09.02 | Xolan | superinspect takes care of that ;P did pre 2.0 anyways |
| 02:09.05 | Nom- | but then, i never open it any more :P |
| 02:09.20 | JoshBorke | closetgnome ftw? ;-) |
| 02:11.41 | Nom- | I'm still trying to find a decent quest log mod |
| 02:11.56 | Nom- | I had one a while back which made the quest log full screen , and opened the quest information when you clicked on it in another frame |
| 02:12.13 | Nom- | That kind of worked ok, i don't like the small screen for viewing what quests i have |
| 02:17.04 | Xolan | yeah I don't like just having those 4-5 lines of quests either. |
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| 02:22.34 | break19 | Xolan: questfu |
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| 02:23.06 | Xolan | I'll have a look cheers |
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| 02:24.36 | Xolan | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1676 this looks like the one you talked about Nom- |
| 02:30.24 | Wing87 | is there any way to pause in a code for lets say 0.01 seconds? |
| 02:32.08 | Xolan | I guess you could save the time in a variable and run something when the variablie is variable+1 or so but that sounds a bit unneeded. |
| 02:33.55 | Wing87 | my problem is this im detecting when a buff is added with CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS..... but it seems that when for aoe buffs like Gift of the Wild CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS runs befor the buff is added |
| 02:35.31 | Xolan | I don't get the problem, nor do I think I'm experience enough to help :\ |
| 02:36.25 | Wing87 | ^_^ well i read the lets say stam after the buff is added but for aoe buffs... that wont got to well as of the code is running befor the buff is applayed |
| 02:38.41 | Xolan | maybe using PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED would work better |
| 02:41.37 | Wing87 | well CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS works well for all but aoe buffs >.< |
| 02:44.58 | Wing87 | well it seems its just gift of the wild |
| 02:45.01 | Wing87 | >.< |
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| 02:54.45 | Nom- | pawsrhardcore |
| 03:05.57 | AnduinLothar | what's "|" in utf-8 again? |
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| 03:08.42 | Nom- | | |
| 03:08.44 | Nom- | ? |
| 03:09.43 | Kirov | ! |
| 03:09.43 | Kirov | . |
| 03:09.43 | Nom- | • |
| 03:09.43 | Nom- | Or that |
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| 03:09.44 | Nom- | I'm pretty sure you can just use the pipe tho |
| 03:09.54 | Kirov | ¿ |
| 03:10.08 | AnduinLothar | not from a macro |
| 03:10.20 | AnduinLothar | need the utf code |
| 03:10.35 | Nom- | That does look like it, thanks xolan :D |
| 03:10.40 | Nom- | Whereever you went |
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| 03:16.59 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.34 | Hobinheim | have gmail or postal been updated? |
| 03:20.37 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvWo-ng8pvg&eurl= |
| 03:20.38 | Nom- | lol |
| 03:21.39 | clad|sleep | anyone have a firewire cable I can borrow? |
| 03:21.47 | Industrial | !seen Mr_Rabies2 |
| 03:21.51 | Industrial | ~seen Mr_Rabies2 |
| 03:22.11 | purl | mr_rabies2 is currently on #wowi-lounge. Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 1h 49m 15s, last said: 'no planned maintenance*'. |
| 03:22.17 | Industrial | asdfasdf |
| 03:22.19 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: ping! |
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| 03:24.12 | Bradford | Greetings |
| 03:24.37 | Bradford | may I ask which of you were posting on the SoL site? |
| 03:25.12 | Cairenn | ? |
| 03:25.38 | Thunder_Child | shit outta luck site? |
| 03:25.47 | Bradford | forums.scrollsoflore.com |
| 03:26.15 | Bradford | kickburn perhpas? |
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| 03:27.35 | Bradford | Kirkburn it was |
| 03:31.42 | sysrage | anybody happen to know why i'm getting random "such and such mod is been blocked by blizzard whatever" when using this macro? |
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| 03:31.45 | sysrage | ./cast [button:1,nomodifier]Conjured Crystal Water;[button:2,nomodifier]Conjured Cinnamon Roll;[button:1,modifier:alt]Conjure Water;[button:2,modifier:alt]Conjure Food |
| 03:32.07 | sysrage | the mod that blocks it is random and it doesn't always happen. sometimes it'll be blocked, i'll walk 2 steps, and it'll work |
| 03:32.16 | Kirkburn | Bradford, hullo! |
| 03:32.21 | Kirkburn | Wrong channel? :P |
| 03:33.09 | Bradford | perhaps not |
| 03:33.21 | Bradford | I came to speak with you about your posts |
| 03:33.41 | zenzelezz | you been a naughty boy again Kirk? |
| 03:34.10 | Bradford | we had a bit of a debate going on Scrolls of Lore's site |
| 03:34.45 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 03:34.49 | Kirkburn | A fun debate :) |
| 03:35.01 | Bradford | you must take a few of those guys with a grain of salt |
| 03:35.15 | Kirkburn | Yuber made me laugh :P |
| 03:35.18 | Bradford | Yuber and Ken specifically |
| 03:35.30 | Bradford | they know the lore, thats no doubt |
| 03:36.01 | Bradford | its just that Wowwiki has put a sour taste in our mouthes |
| 03:36.06 | Kirkburn | Seriously though, you won't be attacked on #wowwiki, I can assure you |
| 03:36.12 | Kirkburn | I know, I was once the same |
| 03:36.16 | Bradford | i didnt come to fight |
| 03:36.39 | Kirkburn | Neither do we :P Some of the stuff said was scary (when I did a search for wowwiki) |
| 03:36.40 | Bradford | again, i must say i admire you for your efforts |
| 03:36.45 | Kirkburn | thanks! |
| 03:37.08 | Bradford | but the fellas on that site seem to be the most knowledgeable i have came across |
| 03:37.29 | Bradford | its hard to find anyone on a pvp server that knows a aspect from their own ass |
| 03:37.46 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 03:38.08 | Kirkburn | Nah, I don't deny they know a lot, but they aren't neutral unfortunately :( |
| 03:38.16 | Bradford | not at all |
| 03:38.21 | Kirkburn | I would join you guys, but for lack of time |
| 03:38.23 | Bradford | in some ways i agree |
| 03:38.46 | Bradford | I dont see some of the table top RPG games as much as cannon as they are spacefillers |
| 03:38.49 | Bradford | likes they posted |
| 03:38.52 | Kirkburn | Yuber's denial of the RPG books was ... odd. Oh and his lying was fun =) We all know Theron very well on the wiki. |
| 03:39.28 | Bradford | it wouldnt be so bad if we didnt come across some complete bullshit on wiki from time to time |
| 03:39.33 | Kirkburn | Oh sure, I don't believe in leprechauns in Warcraft, but without a denial or confirmation, we can't pick and choose :/ |
| 03:39.37 | Bradford | i look for it to be fixed, and it takes a while |
| 03:39.55 | Bradford | THAT is the exact point we were trying to make |
| 03:39.59 | Kirkburn | If that occurs, I apologise - it really shouldn't |
| 03:40.17 | Bradford | whats to keep someone from posting that there is a sith lord behind the Burning Legion |
| 03:40.23 | Cairenn | just for point of reference here guys? I'm not complaining, I don't really mind, and you are certainly welcome here ... but .... #wowwiki has its own channel ... |
| 03:40.24 | Bradford | there is no way to disprove that |
| 03:40.26 | Kirkburn | No because we can cite sources |
| 03:40.40 | Bradford | my apologies |
| 03:40.43 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, I told him, I deed :P |
| 03:40.47 | Bradford | shall we move channels |
| 03:40.47 | Cairenn | that's already |
| 03:40.52 | Cairenn | alright* |
| 03:40.58 | Kirkburn | Please Bradford |
| 03:41.00 | Bradford | my apologies |
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| 03:42.45 | Nom- | Does anyone else find it odd that you're debating the truths and myths of a fictional world |
| 03:42.55 | zenzelezz | not really |
| 03:43.34 | Nom- | ok just checking |
| 03:44.06 | zenzelezz | I find it no different than debating books, like Lord of the Rings/Silmarillion, or movies =) Just my opinion though |
| 03:45.16 | Nom- | righto |
| 03:45.32 | Nom- | I just can't understand how people get into heated discussions and debates over a fictional world |
| 03:45.38 | Nom- | I mean ... it's fictional for a reason |
| 03:45.51 | zenzelezz | they just find it interesting |
| 03:46.12 | Nom- | Yeah, I can see how someone can be interested in the back story on how thing got to where they are |
| 03:46.51 | Nom- | But I mean ... arguing about things in the story line which are not actually covered by the author of said story is just silly |
| 03:47.07 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 03:47.24 | Nom- | because neither side wrote the story, and are not qualified to fill in the blanks |
| 03:47.27 | Nom- | imho |
| 03:47.53 | zenzelezz | they aren't claiming to know for sure, they're just debating their points of view; just as we are now |
| 03:47.55 | zenzelezz | :-) |
| 03:48.08 | Nom- | That is the part i find stupid |
| 03:48.09 | Nom- | :P |
| 03:48.32 | Nom- | For me, it equates to a primary school "My mum said", "But my mum said" style argument |
| 03:49.01 | Cairenn | but then what is the point of any discussion or debate? |
| 03:49.13 | Nom- | discuss or debate real things |
| 03:49.25 | Cairenn | by discussing things, we learn more about someone else's opinion, thus we understand them better |
| 03:49.33 | Nom- | like the current claim from the pope (if i recall, can't remember) that the holocaust never happened :P |
| 03:49.34 | zenzelezz | then what about science? Nothing is real until it's discovered and proved |
| 03:50.01 | Cairenn | with better understanding comes better respect and tolerance of another's pov |
| 03:50.06 | break19 | zenzelezz: except in the case of the big bang theory, and global warming.. those are taken at face value by most. :p |
| 03:50.25 | Cairenn | break19: no they aren't |
| 03:50.37 | break19 | neither of which can be truly proven by scientific means btw :) |
| 03:50.57 | Nom- | break19: Sure about that? There's a lot of evidence to prove global warming |
| 03:51.00 | Cairenn | break19: there are any number of people that firmly disbelieve in the big bang theory as it is diametrically opposite their religious beliefs |
| 03:51.05 | Nom- | Have a look at Al Gore's seminar...it's probably on YouTube |
| 03:51.19 | Corrodias | i can prove that my interpretation of Star Trek is correct by shooting you in the balls with a phazer. |
| 03:51.25 | Corrodias | phaser? |
| 03:51.44 | Cairenn | Nom-: say what? the pope is claiming the holocaust never happened? |
| 03:52.04 | Nom- | I think so... someone is... can't recall who now |
| 03:52.09 | Nom- | It was in last months Time magazine |
| 03:52.09 | break19 | Nom-: rofl. show me another earth exactly like ours, with no humans... then you have your baseline.. without it.. there can be no unbiased experiment |
| 03:52.12 | Corrodias | i'm a firm believer that nothing has ever happened. the universe just started, right now. |
| 03:52.15 | sancus | what the fuck is this channel that im in |
| 03:52.31 | Cairenn | and a good evening to you as well sancus :) |
| 03:52.42 | Nom- | break19: Except that Antarctic Ice can be used to go back several hundred thousand years to get CO2 readings |
| 03:52.46 | Corrodias | you didn't just say that |
| 03:52.47 | bleetah | of course, if you call it 'early rapid expansion', and 'climate' change', there's 100% scientific proof |
| 03:52.59 | bleetah | using unscientific terms and then claiming 'there's no proof' is just dumb |
| 03:53.12 | sancus | oh this is wowi-lounge............... coulda sworn it was #fundies-and-atheists |
| 03:53.14 | break19 | true scientific experiments require some sort of baseline... and the climate has been changing since the earth began... so how do know for SURE that we're doing it? |
| 03:53.16 | Corrodias | youre dumb :( |
| 03:53.45 | Corrodias | i heard there was an ice age. the dinosaurs are the cause of global warming. |
| 03:53.51 | Nom- | break19: because comparing the CO2 readings for the last million+ years, we're at 2x the level it has ever reached |
| 03:54.13 | bleetah | the dinosaurs are just hiding |
| 03:54.13 | Cairenn | sancus: actually, if you trace backward through the log, it isn't hard to figure out how we've gotten to this conversation |
| 03:54.20 | Orclev | the Earth is warming as part of a natural cycle, however it appears increasingly likely that we are accelerating and worsening the cycle such that it will reach peak temperatures greater than what it would without our interference |
| 03:54.22 | bleetah | up in the trees.. look next time you pass one |
| 03:54.38 | break19 | Nom-: how sure of that are you? sure, you read the antarctic ice.. BUT.. did you note that the temp goes up BEFORE the CO2 level does? |
| 03:55.01 | sancus | Cairenn: I could think of at least 15 and a half things that I'm going to start doing instead! |
| 03:55.08 | Nom- | lol watch Al Gore's seminar |
| 03:55.14 | Nom- | They go up and down in unison |
| 03:55.28 | Nom- | Ah, it wasn't the hope it was some president |
| 03:55.29 | Cairenn | sancus: heh |
| 03:55.40 | break19 | Orclev: also, take into account this fact: we are also at our highest known peak of solar flare activity... the increased output of the sun has *nothing* to do with heat.. nah. |
| 03:55.44 | Nom- | Iranian President...the Pope was being critisized for something else in the same issue tho :P |
| 03:56.14 | Nom- | That's radiation, not thermal energy :P |
| 03:56.17 | break19 | Nom-: no.. they dont.. his movie conveniently leaves a much closer timescale than 1000 years :) |
| 03:56.18 | Orclev | actually it really dosn't |
| 03:56.31 | break19 | leaves out* rather |
| 03:56.32 | Nom- | and again, highest known peak |
| 03:56.43 | Nom- | We only have readings of that for the last ... what .... 50 years |
| 03:57.10 | Orclev | the solar flares however are really nasty for all our shiny electronics, especially in space outside the relative safety of the Earths ionosphere |
| 03:57.14 | break19 | Nom-: if the dinosaurs lived on a hot, steamy, swampy planet... who polluted it before? heh |
| 03:57.41 | Orclev | break19: the anerobic bacteria of course |
| 03:57.41 | break19 | Orclev: you *are* aware that heat is a type of radiation, right? |
| 03:57.43 | Cairenn | save the ozone, eat more steak |
| 03:57.49 | break19 | Cairenn: lol |
| 03:58.20 | Orclev | break19: yes and no, heat is a byproduct of radiation striking materials, it is not a radiation in and of itself |
| 03:58.42 | bleetah | also, sun flares in 360.. we're only at one point on the ecliptic |
| 03:58.44 | Orclev | at least not a electromagnetic one |
| 03:58.58 | Orclev | which is the classical definition of radiation |
| 03:59.08 | break19 | Orclev: so.. if thats true.. when the radiation strikes the earth... it creates heat.. which is how the planet is heated on the surface.... by extrapolation, more radiation = more heat |
| 03:59.21 | Nom- | Infrared Radiation causes heat |
| 03:59.46 | Nom- | Infrared Radiation is emmitted by the sun itself... a CME does not have much (if any) Infrared Radation with it |
| 04:00.06 | Orclev | the type of radiation put off by solar flares is not particularly infrared radiation, with I believe was the point Nom- just made |
| 04:00.50 | Orclev | which even, not with |
| 04:01.10 | Orclev | how did I get sucked into the conversation anyway, I was just sitting down to debug my addon |
| 04:01.12 | Corrodias | infrared radiation can be absorbed by materials, which convert the EM energy into thermal energy |
| 04:01.16 | break19 | Orclev: heh |
| 04:01.20 | Corrodias | however, it's not the only kind of radiation that can be absorbed |
| 04:01.39 | Orclev | Corrodias: classic black body phenomena |
| 04:01.47 | Nom- | no, but it's the only type of radiation that causes heat on the earth's surface or atmosphere |
| 04:01.59 | Corrodias | visible light and microwaves are two other popularly absorbed bands |
| 04:02.27 | Orclev | any form of radiation has the potential to cause heating in a material, but it's entirely dependent on the material being affected |
| 04:02.28 | Nom- | And most other forms of radiation from a CME are absorbed by the magnetic field |
| 04:02.36 | Nom- | It never reaches the earths surface |
| 04:03.06 | Orclev | Earths magnetic field is reponsible for life on Earth, without it the planet would be incapable of sustaining life |
| 04:03.15 | Corrodias | that's fine |
| 04:03.21 | bleetah | *as we know it |
| 04:03.35 | break19 | Nom-, Orclev: exactly as bleetah put it.. I was about to type that |
| 04:03.38 | Orclev | tangenital comment that, but felt it was a worthwhile point to make |
| 04:03.57 | Corrodias | my kind of life is the only kind of life worth having. |
| 04:04.00 | Nom- | It's not responsible for life, it just stops life from being wiped out by solar radiation |
| 04:04.01 | Orclev | hehe |
| 04:04.08 | Corrodias | let the martians burn! |
| 04:04.13 | Orclev | Nom- valid point |
| 04:04.25 | Orclev | lets call it a necesary ingrediant |
| 04:04.33 | bleetah | many bacteria happily survive the radiation. it's when complex organisms get involved that things really start breaking down. |
| 04:04.38 | Nom- | Again, not necessarily |
| 04:04.39 | break19 | look.. I'm just not convinced mankind really has any say so with whether the climate changes.. climate is always changing, and it always will.. |
| 04:04.44 | bleetah | WE COME IN PEACE! |
| 04:04.50 | Nom- | Life could evolve to survice solar radiation |
| 04:04.55 | Nom- | *survive |
| 04:05.02 | Corrodias | my skin is made of mirrors |
| 04:05.05 | Orclev | break19: we cannot prevent the climate change, however we can have an impact on it |
| 04:05.14 | break19 | Nom-: then life can evolve to survive the pollution as well... so dont worry about it |
| 04:05.40 | Orclev | Nom-: in theory, however humans without major genetic modification cannot, which for our purposes is the only thing that matters |
| 04:05.44 | Nom- | Except evolution takes many thousands of years lol |
| 04:05.57 | bleetah | break19: yes, climate is always changing. the important thing is whether man has influenced it to change 'faster'. as you correctly state, there's no real baseline to measure against - so to be responsible inhabitants of the planet, we should take 8every* precaution until we're certain we're not. And that's not happening. |
| 04:05.57 | Corrodias | you'd better figure out a way to reverse entropy within some billions of years, though. |
| 04:06.01 | break19 | i mean.. there's so much conflicting stuff out there.. its hard to keep it all yawing together :) |
| 04:06.10 | Orclev | Nom-: nah, plagues are darwinian evolution in fast forward |
| 04:06.36 | Nom- | The only thing that gives me comfort |
| 04:06.38 | break19 | bleetah: unfortunately, we took some actions in the 70s (which the swedes warned us about, actually) that made it worse today. |
| 04:06.39 | Orclev | ah, the big debate over the big chill or the big crunch |
| 04:06.42 | Nom- | Is should greenland melt |
| 04:06.45 | Nom- | I'm going to be fine |
| 04:06.51 | Nom- | Europe will be frozen :P |
| 04:07.20 | break19 | i cant remember exactly what it was at the moment.. its in there somewhere, just hiding in my head. :) |
| 04:07.26 | Nom- | well, that's one possibility anyway |
| 04:07.38 | Orclev | I can't help but think of MC Hawkings Entropy |
| 04:08.21 | Orclev | oh well, enough of this, I must debug my addon |
| 04:08.47 | bleetah | well states |
| 04:08.49 | break19 | Orclev: heh :) |
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| 04:08.51 | bleetah | stated |
| 04:11.23 | Orclev | wtf... my server is full... that's never happened to me before |
| 04:11.43 | Xuerian | Welcome to the Burning Quesade. |
| 04:11.57 | Xuerian | s/Que/Queue/ |
| 04:12.08 | break19 | heh |
| 04:13.16 | Orclev | it's not out yet though, I don't expect a queue till the 17th |
| 04:14.20 | Xuerian | Hype waits for no man. |
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| 04:22.06 | Cairenn | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/kenya.php |
| 04:22.11 | Cairenn | just because |
| 04:28.10 | Corrodias | okay, where the hell has all my memory gone? |
| 04:28.24 | Industrial | forget norway! kenyaaaaaaa |
| 04:29.49 | Industrial | i once had that suck in my head for a whole day |
| 04:30.02 | Industrial | er, stuck. definately stuck. |
| 04:31.05 | Corrodias | i think... |
| 04:31.22 | Corrodias | that the true memory usage of a process is the SUM ofthe "mem usage" and "vm size" columns in Windows Task Manager. |
| 04:32.17 | Corrodias | it has to be. there's no accounting for my system currently using over 2.6gb of memory right now just taking either column on its own. |
| 04:33.10 | break19 | dang, cor.. I'm only using 268M memory, 766ish free |
| 04:33.32 | break19 | and I got wow running in the background.. plus yahoo messnger, ventrilo, and xchat |
| 04:33.36 | Corrodias | my pagefile currently has 1.3gb in use and i have 611mb of 2095mb free |
| 04:33.43 | Corrodias | of physical memory |
| 04:33.52 | break19 | my swapfiles are using 196M |
| 04:34.02 | Corrodias | firefox is consuming, if i'm correct, about 1.7gb on its own. |
| 04:34.07 | Orclev | is there a easy way to remove a value from a hash or array without having to rebuild an entire new array? |
| 04:34.08 | Corrodias | i like tabs |
| 04:34.09 | break19 | geez |
| 04:34.15 | Corrodias | lots of tabs |
| 04:34.19 | Orclev | Corrodias: memmory leak maybe? |
| 04:34.33 | Corrodias | probably. firefox and plugins for firefox are known to do that. |
| 04:34.48 | Kirov | Orclev - sure |
| 04:35.00 | Orclev | hmm, I use alot of extensions, and plenty of tabs (at least 12 atm), but not that much memmory |
| 04:35.03 | Orclev | kirov: how? |
| 04:35.08 | Kirov | tableName[hash] = nil |
| 04:35.14 | Corrodias | let me count my tabs, and then explain... |
| 04:35.28 | Kirov | or tremove(tableName, index) for sequentially numbered arrays |
| 04:35.28 | Orclev | will that remove it? or will that put a hole in the hash or array that will show up in a iteration? |
| 04:35.45 | Kirov | Orclev - depends on if you have a hash or an array |
| 04:36.00 | Orclev | lets say hash... I'm actually using both, but for now just hash |
| 04:36.05 | Kirov | array - |
| 04:36.05 | Kirov | table[1] =1 |
| 04:36.05 | Kirov | table[2] =2 |
| 04:36.15 | Corrodias | i have 56 tabs open, and i've probably opened and closed hundreds of other tabs over the course of the current session (browsing images on 4chan and the like, for example) |
| 04:36.20 | Kirov | hash- |
| 04:36.20 | Kirov | table["a"] = 1 |
| 04:36.20 | Kirov | table["B"] = 1 |
| 04:36.28 | Kirov | hashes you can remove values on a whim |
| 04:36.43 | End | table[234324] = 1 <--- also a hash |
| 04:36.44 | Orclev | as I understand it, a array is the same as a hash just with sequential number keys instead of arbitrary values |
| 04:36.46 | break19 | I use camino, and I close it when I'm not using it :) |
| 04:37.00 | Corrodias | in Lua, they're probably the same. |
| 04:37.16 | Kirov | Lua actually has two different tables |
| 04:37.29 | Corrodias | jigga wha? |
| 04:37.35 | Kirov | to the user they appear the same, but internally they're different |
| 04:37.48 | Orclev | hmm, good to know... makes me hate lua more every day |
| 04:37.51 | Corrodias | as i understand, one is a hashmap. what's the other? |
| 04:38.07 | Kirov | It evaluates how it should store the table based when it's created or changed |
| 04:40.28 | Kirov | Orclev - to answer your question, if it's a hash, niling a value will remove it from the table. |
| 04:40.42 | Orclev | thanks |
| 04:41.47 | Kirov | Know that hash tables have no order, so every time you changes a key or value in a hash table there's no guarentee that it'll be the same order afterwards. |
| 04:41.50 | Kirov | usually it's not |
| 04:43.07 | Corrodias | now, you can use numbers for indices in a hash table, yes? |
| 04:45.32 | Orclev | I actually implemented something partially sugested by someone in this channel to fix that issue |
| 04:46.25 | Orclev | I maintain a hash table and a array, I perform checks and add to the hash table, and whenever I add to the hash table I rebuild and sort the array, then I use the array for listing entries |
| 04:47.05 | Orclev | not terribly efficient, but for something not changed very often much better than repeated iterations over a array to find values |
| 04:47.42 | Orclev | and best of all, the CLI version of my addon is finally working, now all I have to do is finish the GUI |
| 04:48.54 | Hobinheim | an ordered hash? |
| 04:49.01 | Hobinheim | yeah i guess that's how you'd do it |
| 04:49.03 | Orclev | in a way |
| 04:49.12 | Hobinheim | i didn't know pairs returned unordered |
| 04:49.33 | Orclev | well, they are ordered, but it's the order of the hash, which is arbitrary |
| 04:50.13 | Orclev | I think by default it will sort by value, but in my case I wanted to sort by key |
| 04:51.03 | Hobinheim | from a perl background, an "undocumented sort" seems the most likely |
| 04:51.21 | Hobinheim | i'm on the verge of completing my first ace addon... i'm giddy |
| 04:51.32 | Orclev | hmm... I've done perl beform (have a couple modules), but I'm not familiar with "undocumented sort" |
| 04:51.42 | Orclev | before even |
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| 04:52.24 | Hobinheim | wow did i say sort |
| 04:52.32 | Hobinheim | undocumented order to the return value of keys |
| 04:52.49 | Orclev | man, it's been a while since I did anything with perl... seems like I've only been doing Java for years now.... actually, it has been years now that I think about it |
| 04:52.57 | Hobinheim | it's order is volatile and controlled by perl, i.e. don't relay on it |
| 04:53.07 | Hobinheim | *rely |
| 04:53.28 | Orclev | sounds about right... it's usually dependent on the underlying hashing function and how many buckets get allocated |
| 04:54.05 | Corrodias | hey, he said buckets! |
| 04:54.19 | Orclev | yes... and? |
| 04:55.01 | Orclev | I'm debating whether I'm going in to work tomorrow... |
| 04:55.32 | Orclev | I probably should... we have a release coming up, and the business will be a little peeved if we miss it seeing as we've spent something like 2.6 million so far |
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| 05:00.22 | Orclev | why couldn't they have used perl, or heck, even python for scripting... lua is so nasty in so many ways |
| 05:01.02 | Orclev | or javascript, which actually is rather nice as long as you don't have to deal with IE's bassackwards DOM implementation |
| 05:02.51 | Corrodias | WoW 3.0 will use VB 6 |
| 05:07.54 | Orclev | Corrodias: don't say that, it's not funny |
| 05:08.50 | pastamancer | Orclev: I think you mean "why couldn't they use lisp" |
| 05:09.53 | Corrodias | well, VB .NET isn't bad, when using Visual Studio 2005 |
| 05:10.04 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | TOC is 20003 | People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw lions. |
| 05:10.15 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 05:10.18 | Guillotine | best topic ever |
| 05:10.33 | Nom- | lol finally my ringtone is saved at a sane level |
| 05:10.44 | Nom- | These cisco voip phones can really scream their heads off when they want to lol |
| 05:13.18 | Thunder_Child | yea, but the speakerphones on them suck |
| 05:13.33 | Thunder_Child | cant hear jack on the reciveign end |
| 05:14.00 | Thunder_Child | err...the end not on the speaker phone side |
| 05:14.15 | Corrodias | protip: you have it upside down |
| 05:20.51 | Hobinheim | bag zero doesn't fire on login |
| 05:20.56 | Hobinheim | should i like... artificially fire it |
| 05:29.24 | Kirkburn | Did you know - release TBC is dated October 31st 2006 |
| 05:30.12 | Kirkburn | Methinks logging in won't do much though ... |
| 05:30.23 | Kirkburn | No, wait ... 219 MB of patches :) |
| 05:31.31 | jaxdahl | under 24 hours to go for the USA |
| 05:31.48 | Kirkburn | 17hours 30 mins for UK |
| 05:31.56 | jaxdahl | 23.5 |
| 05:32.02 | Kirkburn | muahaha |
| 05:32.04 | Kirkburn | Not that I have a key |
| 05:33.44 | bleetah | sux to be in australia, about 30 hours |
| 05:33.56 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 05:34.21 | bleetah | under 24 hours would have been nice, 4pm launch |
| 05:34.27 | bleetah | not having to stay up to some mad hour |
| 05:34.34 | Kirkburn | Damn useful that the TBC torrent that's up is enGB, even if it doesn't say so :P |
| 05:34.44 | jaxdahl | bleetah, i believe oceanic will go up at the same time? |
| 05:34.54 | Kirkburn | Shops won't be open though, will they? |
| 05:35.07 | jaxdahl | get a code from someone in the USA |
| 05:35.23 | Kirkburn | I'm considering phoning a shop in Bristol today |
| 05:35.54 | bleetah | either way, it doesn't make any sense. local distributors will lose hardcore customers to overseas guild purchases. |
| 05:41.11 | Kirkburn | Lol this is funny: http://www.istartedsomething.com/20070115/win98-sampler-pack/ |
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| 05:49.44 | Corrodias | oh you're kidding me, another update? |
| 05:50.27 | bleetah | 2.0.5 fixed? |
| 05:50.49 | Hobinheim | god so many bugs... |
| 05:50.51 | Hobinheim | ? |
| 05:50.53 | Corrodias | fixed? |
| 05:50.59 | Corrodias | it's downloading... |
| 05:51.19 | Corrodias | fortuantely it's small enough that it probably won't fuck up my router too bad to let the blizzard downloader handle it |
| 05:52.06 | Corrodias | my radio stream has gone jittery, but it's almost done |
| 05:52.15 | bleetah | when 2.0.5 was first released, it managed to disconnect a few people |
| 05:55.40 | Corrodias | i seem to be able to play |
| 05:56.57 | Nom- | 2.0.5 is out? |
| 05:57.06 | Nom- | I thought 2.0.4 only just came out last night lol |
| 05:57.08 | bleetah | re-released, yes |
| 06:00.08 | End | most people don'tt even need 2.0.5 though |
| 06:00.13 | Osagasu | It's purely a workaround patch. |
| 06:00.18 | End | it fixes some hardware issue or something some people were having |
| 06:00.19 | Osagasu | UI issues with Graphics cards. |
| 06:00.21 | bleetah | yeah, seemed to be something weird going on with intel video. needing to revert to drivers from 2004 |
| 06:00.22 | Hobinheim | what's the difference between dot and colon notation |
| 06:00.26 | bleetah | whether that's precisely what this is for, no idea |
| 06:00.30 | Nom- | Anyone here in Oz ? |
| 06:00.31 | Nom- | I want to pick up my TBC copy today :( |
| 06:00.38 | kahdgarxi | Yes sir, official representative of the Lollipop guild reporting in! |
| 06:00.39 | jaxdahl | well some servers expect you to have the 2.0.5 client |
| 06:00.39 | jaxdahl | so people will need to update sooner or later anyway |
| 06:00.39 | Corrodias | man, it's been a while since i played... |
| 06:00.39 | Corrodias | i feel rusty |
| 06:01.45 | jaxdahl | 23 hours to go in the usa |
| 06:01.45 | [Cu]Werik | 23? |
| 06:01.45 | bleetah | shut up |
| 06:01.46 | bleetah | 31 in australia |
| 06:01.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:01.46 | bleetah | and that's just east coast |
| 06:01.46 | Cairenn | play nice boys |
| 06:01.58 | Thunder_Child | 26 hrs west coats |
| 06:01.58 | [Cu]Werik | 17 here;P |
| 06:01.58 | Thunder_Child | coast* |
| 06:02.07 | Corrodias | it doesn't matter. you won't be able to play for a week, anyway. |
| 06:02.10 | Corrodias | this is WoW! |
| 06:02.23 | bleetah | i bet the sand crawlers are gunna be mighty pissed, as they usually are when blizz do anything 'oceanic' |
| 06:02.37 | bleetah | coz.. they've got.. 35-36 hours to wait |
| 06:02.39 | Thunder_Child | you would be surprised how many people find it more fun to discuss wow than to pley it |
| 06:02.44 | Thunder_Child | play* |
| 06:03.12 | [Cu]Werik | I didnt play it since 5 months;) |
| 06:03.27 | Corrodias | i haven't played in about 2... |
| 06:04.01 | bleetah | meh, i just hate being overly discriminated against due to my location. free trade agreement or not. |
| 06:04.24 | Corrodias | my addons still seem to be working, at least, except for avbars which i had to update |
| 06:04.45 | Corrodias | is it possible to get to the new races' starting areas at this point on Live? |
| 06:06.18 | jaxdahl | no. |
| 06:06.21 | jaxdahl | you need the expansion |
| 06:07.09 | Corrodias | my interface looks so small... |
| 06:07.18 | Corrodias | guess i've been playing console games too long |
| 06:07.36 | Kirov | heh |
| 06:09.33 | bleetah | so that'll be... WoW install, BC install, 2.0.3 install, 2.0.4 install, 2.0.5 install.. then the server crashes. |
| 06:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | bc is prepatched to 2.0.1 or 2? |
| 06:10.11 | jaxdahl | 2.0.0 i think |
| 06:10.21 | jaxdahl | you don't need to do a wow install |
| 06:10.30 | jaxdahl | a bc install will install 2.0 |
| 06:10.36 | Corrodias | patches keep turning audio hardware accelleration back on |
| 06:10.39 | Corrodias | and i keep having to turn it off |
| 06:10.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | is bc on dvd? |
| 06:10.45 | jaxdahl | 4 CDs |
| 06:10.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammmn |
| 06:10.53 | Corrodias | Blizzard doesn't know what a DVD is |
| 06:10.57 | Thunder_Child | even the CE? |
| 06:10.59 | Kirov | or 2800 floppies |
| 06:11.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | well their latest survey |
| 06:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | asked about dvd-rom drives |
| 06:11.22 | bleetah | easier to finalise the presses with 3 CDs and boxes, etc., then finalise the last CD, than do the entire DVD run, my guess |
| 06:11.29 | [Cu]Werik | 4 cd or dvd if you have CE |
| 06:11.29 | Corrodias | if you don't have a DVD-ROM drive, don't answer the surveys. |
| 06:11.36 | Corrodias | or i'll hurt you. |
| 06:11.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think like 95% of the gaming market does |
| 06:12.08 | jaxdahl | check the Steam stats |
| 06:12.09 | Thunder_Child | at least |
| 06:12.10 | bleetah | meh, I just copy the installer and data files onto a ram drive |
| 06:12.13 | Corrodias | but somehow they figured we don't want DVD versions |
| 06:12.32 | Corrodias | at least we don't have to put the discs in after we install |
| 06:12.33 | [Cu]Werik | You can use the beta client anyway |
| 06:12.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | <jaxdahl> check the Steam stats |
| 06:12.39 | [Cu]Werik | What's the fuss all about :) |
| 06:12.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | what i'm doin :p |
| 06:12.46 | jaxdahl | http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html |
| 06:12.50 | Corrodias | i don't have the beta client. i wasn't given an invitation. |
| 06:13.06 | jaxdahl | 94.10% DVD |
| 06:13.08 | [Cu]Werik | And you can download the TBC disks via *cough* |
| 06:13.09 | jaxdahl | 4.72% CDrom |
| 06:13.14 | [Cu]Werik | well via less legal ways:) |
| 06:13.17 | jaxdahl | 1.18% undetermined |
| 06:13.25 | jaxdahl | i don't see why downloading the tbc disks wouldn't be legal |
| 06:13.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | wonder if there will be a BC demo |
| 06:13.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 06:13.41 | jaxdahl | blizzard never frowned on that with the original discs |
| 06:13.52 | [Cu]Werik | For obvious reasons |
| 06:13.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend ripped the CD-key off a package at WAL-MART |
| 06:14.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the STORE |
| 06:14.03 | Corrodias | it is legal. sending the data to people who -don't- have a license to the info is. however, Blizzard doesn't care because you need to buy accounts anyway. |
| 06:14.05 | [Cu]Werik | but it's a good way to prepare your game for launch |
| 06:14.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | and used his friend's key to install |
| 06:14.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 06:14.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | and used his friend's cd to install |
| 06:14.20 | Corrodias | s/info is/info isn't/ |
| 06:14.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know the WoW Demo is the full game |
| 06:14.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if there will be a bc demo |
| 06:14.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope |
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| 06:14.59 | [Cu]Werik | You mean trial? |
| 06:15.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate having to keep up with CDs |
| 06:15.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:15.18 | bleetah | yerg, trial premade 60's |
| 06:15.22 | [Cu]Werik | If I were blizzard, I'd not make a separate tbc trial |
| 06:15.34 | bleetah | i would.... just a very expensive one |
| 06:15.39 | jaxdahl | anyone know what changed in the TOU? |
| 06:15.41 | [Cu]Werik | the actual wow trial is good enough to show a picture about the game |
| 06:15.52 | bleetah | [Cu]Werik: totally |
| 06:15.56 | Thunder_Child | but you cant even trade on the trial...not even for mage water |
| 06:16.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope :p |
| 06:16.05 | [Cu]Werik | so, roll a mage |
| 06:16.08 | [Cu]Werik | :P |
| 06:16.13 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 06:16.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just use the trial to install the game |
| 06:16.23 | break19 | Mr_Rabies: as did I. |
| 06:16.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | when i can't find my CDs and need to install |
| 06:16.24 | Kirkburn | ARGH! |
| 06:16.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | hurt yourself, kirk |
| 06:16.38 | [Cu]Werik | I was using the old alpha client |
| 06:16.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ? |
| 06:16.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | 22hrs 43mins 14secs until Burning Crusade. |
| 06:16.43 | Kirkburn | When editing your UI placement - make sure you're on the RIGHT RES first |
| 06:16.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 06:16.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | DUN DUN DUNNNNNN |
| 06:16.50 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 06:16.59 | bleetah | correct rez is for nubs |
| 06:17.06 | Thunder_Child | guess you wont be making -that- mistake again |
| 06:17.17 | break19 | in fact, thats how I installed it originally.. got the trial.. played trial for a while.. upgraded (the equiv of buying the cd, without paying for the extra boxing/documentation, etc. |
| 06:17.41 | Kirkburn | Bloody annoying :P |
| 06:17.55 | [Cu]Werik | :-) http://web.t-online.hu/oro18/tbc1.jpg http://web.t-online.hu/oro18/tbc2.jpg http://web.t-online.hu/oro18/tbc3.jpg |
| 06:17.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still have the 4 cd first run print of the game :[ |
| 06:18.05 | Kirkburn | not only that, but I can't run high anti-aliasing cause it messes up my sound. |
| 06:18.16 | Kirkburn | Yes, you read that right. x4 anti-aliasing = bad sound |
| 06:18.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | cant imagine trying to patch from the first batch of cd's |
| 06:18.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | kirk |
| 06:18.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | what gpu? |
| 06:19.46 | Kirkburn | This is using Creative beta Vista beta drivers |
| 06:19.48 | Corrodias | this whole dark portal area is a bit of a mess |
| 06:19.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 06:20.01 | Kirkburn | And a 6800 GT :) |
| 06:20.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 06:20.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 06:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember reading something about that in the nvidia driver release notes |
| 06:20.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | so the vista drivers are probably just an old build |
| 06:20.22 | [Cu]Werik | I have problems with the creative drivers on vista as wlel |
| 06:20.27 | [Cu]Werik | I get static randomly |
| 06:20.41 | Kirkburn | K, I have a nice UI at last |
| 06:20.57 | bleetah | heh, ingame MOTD welcomes me to 2.0.4 still |
| 06:21.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh snap |
| 06:21.47 | break19 | Mr_Rabies: not much better.. i downloaded wow for the first time, had to download like 900megs of patches. heh |
| 06:21.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone just linked Martin Thunder in trade |
| 06:21.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 06:23.28 | Nom- | *phew* |
| 06:23.36 | Nom- | The store I pre-ordered from is open Wednesday AM |
| 06:23.41 | Nom- | and they have them in now |
| 06:23.43 | Nom- | So I can get it then |
| 06:24.21 | jaxdahl | nobody knows what changed in the terms of use? |
| 06:24.35 | jaxdahl | i don't want to sign over my soul |
| 06:24.36 | Nom- | they took out the list of countries |
| 06:24.47 | jaxdahl | do you have a diff? |
| 06:24.50 | Daemona | its something about storing eu customer data in the us |
| 06:25.00 | Nom- | they said you could only play from like "Australia, US, New Zealand" and something else |
| 06:25.01 | Daemona | and keeping it under eu rights |
| 06:25.09 | Nom- | And then they realised they have a few other people playing |
| 06:25.22 | Nom- | *just* a few :P |
| 06:25.37 | bleetah | haha |
| 06:25.59 | Nom- | I think it said, "US, Canadan, Australia and New Zealand" |
| 06:26.36 | Nom- | All the pinoys in my guild were up in arms when they saw that lol |
| 06:26.40 | bleetah | and singapore |
| 06:27.02 | jaxdahl | Japan |
| 06:27.38 | bleetah | nah, they never mentioned japan.. or malaysia.. or.. ;-) |
| 06:27.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | almost had the gold farmers :[ |
| 06:28.02 | [Cu]Werik | and Singapore |
| 06:28.10 | [Cu]Werik | ah nvm |
| 06:28.20 | Nom- | Apparenlty they started closing accounts based on where they connected from too |
| 06:28.32 | Nom- | And then I guess some engineer ran a report that showed like 50% of the player base |
| 06:28.38 | Nom- | And they went back to the drawing board on that one |
| 06:29.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | that would be a decent policy, but the problem is military people in countries that don't sell wow |
| 06:29.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 06:29.09 | Nom- | Except |
| 06:29.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | that would be a decent policy, but the problem is military people in countries that don't sell the "US CLIENT" of wow |
| 06:29.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | * |
| 06:29.20 | Nom- | They also didn't list a large number of countries that they SELL wow in |
| 06:29.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah that too :p |
| 06:29.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 06:29.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least our client |
| 06:29.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | do they sell the us client in like malaysia? |
| 06:29.50 | Nom- | yea |
| 06:29.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 06:29.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | weird |
| 06:29.54 | Nom- | There's US and Europe |
| 06:29.56 | Nom- | That's it |
| 06:30.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | so where are china and korea? |
| 06:30.09 | Nom- | Australia & Asia got the US version as far as I can tell |
| 06:30.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause i know the vast majority of chinese players in the us client are gold farmers |
| 06:30.45 | jaxdahl | where do japanese players play? |
| 06:30.54 | Nom- | US Servers I think |
| 06:31.04 | [Cu]Werik | they play on asian servers |
| 06:31.04 | bleetah | Officially, it's only Australia, Newzealand and Singapore that have enUS version, but there's quite a mobile population there ;-) |
| 06:31.05 | Corrodias | holy balls i'm rusty |
| 06:31.17 | [Cu]Werik | There is a huge asian market for wow. They have their own servers |
| 06:31.22 | bleetah | the oceanic realms have a number of japanese guilds |
| 06:31.24 | bleetah | malaysian, etc. |
| 06:31.47 | Corrodias | of course, not having spent any talent points yet doesn't help my combat ability, but i need to relearn my attack patterns |
| 06:32.00 | bleetah | expats working overseas, and stuff |
| 06:32.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | corr |
| 06:32.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | here's a major difference: |
| 06:32.15 | Tierrie | !!! |
| 06:32.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | pounce is useful now |
| 06:32.20 | Tierrie | there was a patch for wow while i was logged out? |
| 06:32.45 | jaxdahl | 2.0.5, Tierrie |
| 06:32.58 | bleetah | *fixed the 2.0.5 authentication issue, so re-deployed it |
| 06:33.05 | [Cu]Werik | Though I can understand asian players playing on EU or US servers, because their own servers have this playtime limitation stuff |
| 06:33.21 | Corrodias | Pounce i didn't use too much.. |
| 06:33.51 | Corrodias | looks like it does some damage and stuns longer, now |
| 06:33.57 | Nom- | Well the US client has an Oceanic tab |
| 06:34.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | it does a LOT more damage now |
| 06:34.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it did 180 over like 21 seconds |
| 06:34.14 | Nom- | Oceanic generally describes Australia, NZ, Asia |
| 06:34.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 180 over 18 rather |
| 06:34.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now it does 450 over 18 and scales with AP |
| 06:34.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | it ticks for about 150 with my puny 1100ish AP |
| 06:35.56 | Kirkburn | I have no quests in my quest log :) |
| 06:35.56 | Corrodias | i don't understand the whole scaling for AP thing |
| 06:36.22 | Kirkburn | Hey. My quest log has got a different bg! |
| 06:36.31 | Kirkburn | And it's got cobwebs! |
| 06:38.19 | jaxdahl | i'm sad i never finished the aq quest line |
| 06:38.22 | jaxdahl | i put so much time into that |
| 06:38.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | what in the hell |
| 06:38.34 | Kirkburn | There's still time ... |
| 06:38.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2278391 |
| 06:38.37 | Shadowed | Corrodias: Scaling with AP is just a way to make the spell scale up a bit as you get better gear |
| 06:38.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | read that^ |
| 06:38.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh |
| 06:38.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | might be borderline not work safe |
| 06:39.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | some guy got stabbed cause he caught his wife cybering with some dude in wow over vent |
| 06:39.33 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 06:39.56 | Xuerian | The guy got stabbed by the wife who was cybering with some dude? >.> |
| 06:40.00 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:40.01 | Shadowed | Like Rogue's Evi may do 1000-1500 damage with 5 combo points, but it can do 0.5 more damage per a point of AP, so if you have 100 AP it would now do 1050-1550 damage |
| 06:40.10 | Nom- | It could be worse |
| 06:40.16 | Nom- | The guy could have been a Male Tauren |
| 06:40.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | the guy was a female night elf |
| 06:40.35 | Shadowed | The first post is "Did her skill with forks go up? " |
| 06:40.39 | Shadowed | classic |
| 06:40.40 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:40.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's SA for ya :p |
| 06:41.29 | Corrodias | gah, i miss transporterfu |
| 06:41.32 | Cairenn | well, he's shoving her around, she has a right to defend herself |
| 06:41.55 | Shadowed | well, theres a difference between defending yourself and going to far |
| 06:42.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was defending himsel |
| 06:42.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | f |
| 06:42.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | versus her punches after the arguement escalated |
| 06:42.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | he pushed her back onto a bed and she goes apeshit, cuts him with a fork, then runs out and finds a knife |
| 06:42.42 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:42.54 | Cairenn | or so he claims |
| 06:42.59 | Shadowed | then again, it's SA so i'm not sure how much of it is exaggerated/twisted |
| 06:43.21 | Cairenn | if I'd just been stabbed in a domestic disagreement, the last thing I'd be doing would be posting about it on SA :p |
| 06:43.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd be more likely to believe him than crazy drunk lady who stabbed him |
| 06:43.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd have kicked her out of the damn house and deleted her character |
| 06:43.35 | [Cu]Werik | I kinda agree with Cairenn here;) |
| 06:43.53 | Shadowed | He didn't say that she was drunk, and it is entirely possible he was doing something worst and she felt threatened |
| 06:44.01 | Shadowed | if you believe what he says then she was at fault |
| 06:44.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | he does |
| 06:44.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | later in the thread |
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| 06:44.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | she was drunk and on meds |
| 06:44.39 | bleetah | "She used the fork to distract me (sapped lol)" |
| 06:44.48 | Cairenn | she definitely went over the line, if she had gotten away and went back after him |
| 06:45.22 | Cairenn | and if she did throw the first swing, then yeah he was right to shove her away |
| 06:45.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially if she hit the bed |
| 06:45.43 | Cairenn | not disagreeing with that |
| 06:45.45 | Corrodias | well, this isn't cool. showing an item tooltip by mousing over an item drops my framerate to 18 |
| 06:45.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | personally i think he took this too lightly if his story is correct |
| 06:46.00 | Shadowed | Ot |
| 06:46.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | she's still in the damn house |
| 06:46.17 | Shadowed | It's the same theory behind the bash "MY HOUSE IS ON FIRE ILL TELL THE GUYS ON IRC ABOUT IT FIRST" |
| 06:46.34 | Shadowed | a good story is better then your safety |
| 06:47.03 | Cairenn | just saying though, if he was shoving her around, her grabbing the fork and sticking him with it could be viewed as falling under self-defense, but only till she got away |
| 06:47.38 | Shadowed | only if she wasn't the one who attacked first |
| 06:47.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | This tonight, was the closest to real violence I've used. I never hit her. Even through all this. When she attacked me, I used redirection to have her safely on the bed. No harm there physically. |
| 06:47.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | well the fork stab was incredibly minor |
| 06:47.51 | Shadowed | or if he didn't go farther then pushing her away |
| 06:47.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the little tiny cut that's long |
| 06:48.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell i'd put some rubbing alcohol on it and be done after i kicked her ass out |
| 06:48.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the knife wound |
| 06:48.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh i'd see a doctor |
| 06:48.51 | Shadowed | if he hasn't contacted the police yet, then seeing a doctor would raise questions |
| 06:49.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | "Sir, can you identify this woman as your assailant?" |
| 06:49.13 | break19 | Shadowed: actually.. this happened to me once: Chattin away on IRC, when I smelled smoke, and electronics smoke... it looked like it was my monitor.. I typed "shit, smoke, monitor, bye" and logged.. turns out it was just my computer speaker wire had been wedged between my desk and wall, and the insulation had rubbed off.. the transformer of the thing started a meltdown that threw the breaker.. after it cooled I unplugged |
| 06:49.13 | break19 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably not work safe: http://img.waffleimages.com/3285d447f9ac17bf34e381a4a139cd7778c3c8c3/nightelf.jpg |
| 06:49.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | oops |
| 06:49.32 | jaxdahl | is that a dildo? |
| 06:49.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | only meant for the words to be bold not the text |
| 06:49.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah it is that's why i said probably :p |
| 06:49.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause uh |
| 06:49.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | he mentions that later in the thread too |
| 06:49.50 | Corrodias | that appears to have been shopped |
| 06:49.57 | jaxdahl | Corrodias, no shit? |
| 06:50.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | er yeah :p |
| 06:50.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the point |
| 06:50.12 | Corrodias | i can tell from the pixels and from having seen quite a few shops in my time |
| 06:50.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha |
| 06:50.29 | Shadowed | break19: you win this one |
| 06:50.48 | Xuerian | Corrodias: If it took you quite a few shops to grasp that fact |
| 06:50.55 | Xuerian | Corrodias: Well... I don't think I need to say more. |
| 06:50.55 | Shadowed | it's a pretty good photoshop |
| 06:51.06 | Corrodias | it's a 4chan thing, Xuerian |
| 06:51.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah :p |
| 06:51.20 | Xuerian | Corrodias: Oh, well, return to your business then. |
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| 06:51.28 | Shadowed | although, people have a bit to much free time to do things like that |
| 06:51.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's become so prelevant that people just say "shops, pixels, etc" now |
| 06:51.34 | [Cu]Werik | -.- |
| 06:51.45 | Shadowed | o.o |
| 06:51.50 | break19 | heh.. yea.. i supposed I do.. couldnt find a transformer to fit the speakers tho, wound up buying AL 5.1 dolby speakers. :) |
| 06:52.30 | break19 | and 2 months later.. they got washed into the Gulf of Mexico :( |
| 06:52.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would call a doctor/the police and fire up ye old divorce machine if i got stabbed |
| 06:52.53 | Shadowed | how did you manage that |
| 06:52.57 | Corrodias | Billy Idol - Rebel Yell (in the midnight hour, she cried, "more more more") |
| 06:53.00 | [Cu]Werik | I love the suggestion tho |
| 06:53.05 | break19 | I would call up the coroner for the stabber if I got stabbed... |
| 06:53.27 | break19 | Shadowed: we got a visit from a mean ole woman named Katrina |
| 06:53.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 06:53.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | even HER DAD |
| 06:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | says to press charges |
| 06:54.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | this guy must be legally retarded to not have kicked her out |
| 06:54.14 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 06:54.31 | break19 | Shadowed: http://zex0s.home.mchsi.com/index2.html |
| 06:55.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | I'm not looking for pity. I'm just telling the story. Yes I'm going to divorce her. It's done. I'm not that stupid. I'm not pressing charges. I know it sounds bad, but I'm just ready to wash my hands. She should be gone by the end of the week. I have ways to keep safely away from her in the house. |
| 06:55.27 | Kirkburn | Woo, taken a while, but I'm ready for TBC :) |
| 06:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | like nailing her door shut and taking the computer with you |
| 06:56.02 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, um ... short title? |
| 06:56.03 | break19 | Mr_Rabies2: heh |
| 06:56.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | if she's willing to stab you |
| 06:56.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | she's willing to kill you |
| 06:56.22 | Shadowed | A title that I can actually read without copying it into notepad for once |
| 06:56.34 | Kirkburn | It looks so lonely :P |
| 06:57.13 | Cairenn | hehe |
| 06:57.52 | break19 | i dunno why, but the images have been removed from that site I posted, oh well.. lemme re-upload em |
| 07:00.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh good finally in the thread he's calling the cops on her |
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| 07:00.37 | bleetah | "Did her skill in forks increase?" |
| 07:00.42 | break19 | Shadowed: there.. visit the site again: http://zex0s.home.mchsi.com/index2.html |
| 07:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least maybe he's not completely dumb, the internet managed to convince him not to end up as a corpse |
| 07:01.15 | Shadowed | wow, thats a little bit damaged |
| 07:01.40 | break19 | yea.. there used to be a house on top of those poles lol |
| 07:02.04 | [Cu]Werik | :OO |
| 07:02.14 | break19 | oh, and if ya zoom in on the 3rd one, you can see the bay.. (and my suv lol) |
| 07:03.35 | break19 | we had a beautiful view in the evenings, with the water slightly white-capping, and the sun going down off to the right.. the wife and I would walk out on the pier and just relax until it went down. :) |
| 07:03.40 | break19 | I miss that place. |
| 07:04.08 | [Cu]Werik | It really looks like a nice place to live :) |
| 07:04.17 | [Cu]Werik | Well, looked |
| 07:04.22 | break19 | heh |
| 07:04.24 | [Cu]Werik | i guess;P |
| 07:04.24 | break19 | it was. |
| 07:04.34 | Corrodias | well, here's a preliminary draft. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MZxGMcbZxEctcq0x0t |
| 07:04.40 | break19 | i wish I had before shots, but those were all on my other computers :p |
| 07:05.00 | Corrodias | although i'm not sure i can get the hang of using Omen of Clarity |
| 07:05.10 | Corrodias | i'm told it's the shit. |
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| 07:05.47 | break19 | Corrodias: oh hell yea.. my wife is a 60 feral druid.. has just enough resto to get ooc.. and she kicks serious tail.. |
| 07:05.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | mangle's better than OOC :O |
| 07:06.00 | Shadowed | Corrodias: what are you going to focus on, PVP? |
| 07:06.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll be getting OOC at 61 |
| 07:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | but at 60, mangle > ooc |
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| 07:06.55 | Corrodias | i wouldn't focus on pvp... |
| 07:06.55 | Corrodias | i hardly ever do it |
| 07:06.55 | Corrodias | my favorite is pve healing |
| 07:07.17 | Shadowed | I'd get swiftmend then personally |
| 07:07.52 | Corrodias | i had it before, and tended to forget to use it, but it is nice... |
| 07:08.17 | [Cu]Werik | omg, it costs a lot of mana |
| 07:08.19 | [Cu]Werik | :P |
| 07:08.40 | Corrodias | before 2.0, it was the most efficient heal of them all |
| 07:09.00 | Corrodias | if you let the HoT it's consuming run its full length, that is |
| 07:09.24 | Shadowed | For PVP it's amazing |
| 07:09.26 | Corrodias | i'm not used to having OoC or NS |
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| 07:09.51 | Nom- | Is it just me, or is Flash of Light a REALLY cheap heal if you've got enough +healing gear |
| 07:09.51 | Shadowed | and PVE really in spike damage fights, so stuff like twin emps, sapph, ouro |
| 07:10.00 | Nom- | Even the top ranks |
| 07:10.07 | Shadowed | it is, paladins have the most efficient healing last I checked |
| 07:10.14 | Neuro_Medivh | not after tuesday =0 |
| 07:10.19 | break19 | Corrodias: my wife does pretty good at pvp, and she has mostly greens and a few blues and 1 or 2 purples... she's hold off getting any heavy gear till after we get the xpack |
| 07:10.20 | Corrodias | well, i can take one point out of Improved Regrowth and put it into Swiftmend |
| 07:10.26 | Shadowed | I'm sure will have spike damage fights in TBC too |
| 07:10.34 | Corrodias | that's nice, break19, but i on the other hand blow at pvp |
| 07:10.35 | [Cu]Werik | flash of light is the best spell ever |
| 07:10.42 | break19 | Corrodias: me too. lol |
| 07:10.58 | Shadowed | playing on the test servers back in like 1.10 using a pre-made druid full resto specced was fun |
| 07:11.03 | Shadowed | made me wish I had rolled a druid |
| 07:11.40 | [Cu]Werik | it heals for 1000+ dmg with good gear |
| 07:11.40 | Nom- | Druids are ok |
| 07:11.40 | break19 | it's her first ever wow char.. and she's picked up on it pretty damn good.. after I embarrassed her with my (then) lvl 52 hunter, she went around talking to every pvp'er she could find and got LOTS of help.. :) |
| 07:11.40 | Shadowed | I liked being able to spam cheetah and HOT/Swiftmend people though |
| 07:11.45 | Nom- | Anyone know how hard it is to get +1000 healing gear in TBC for Pally ? |
| 07:11.55 | Shadowed | In TBC? Not that hard i'd imagine |
| 07:12.02 | [Cu]Werik | impossible imho:P |
| 07:12.13 | Nom- | It can't be impossible lol |
| 07:12.22 | Shadowed | i'm pretty sure one of our paladins reached like 998 healing at 60 in naxx gear |
| 07:12.22 | Nom- | Tier 3 and Naxx gear is +1000 if you do it right |
| 07:12.36 | Nom- | yah exactly, Shadowed |
| 07:12.42 | Kirkburn | Yeah, quite possible to reach +1000 |
| 07:12.49 | Nom- | cool |
| 07:12.59 | Kirkburn | I got +700 dmg from quest rewards on my Warlock |
| 07:13.07 | Nom- | coz a pally can solo heal a level 60 tanking ony with +1000 gear :P |
| 07:13.17 | Nom- | I've seen it done :P |
| 07:13.22 | Corrodias | minor revision, moving one point to get Swiftmend and a slightly lower crit chance on Regrowth: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MZxGMcbZxEctcq0Lot |
| 07:13.43 | Nom- | I assume he was just banging flash of light |
| 07:13.47 | [Cu]Werik | I don't know. I will stick to my 18/0/43 build:) |
| 07:13.50 | Shadowed | yeah, one of our paladins has 1067 healing with 8/9 redemption, and a mix of basically gear from every instance |
| 07:14.05 | Nom- | coz holy light chews so much mana |
| 07:14.19 | Corrodias | my druid build there is obviously not designed for soloing power |
| 07:14.20 | [Cu]Werik | I barely ever used holy light in the last two years on raids |
| 07:14.36 | Shadowed | I'm guessing you'll be able to reach 1000 with probably mid level stuff at 70 |
| 07:14.39 | Nom- | Level 66 FoL = 180 mana, Level 70 HL = 840 Mana |
| 07:14.41 | Nom- | Tony difference :P |
| 07:14.44 | Nom- | *tiny |
| 07:14.50 | [Cu]Werik | and it's pretty slow;) |
| 07:15.04 | Nom- | 2.5 seconds is pretty quick for a heal really |
| 07:15.18 | Shadowed | most of PVE healing is prediction anyway |
| 07:15.32 | Nom- | 2 seconds with the holy talent |
| 07:15.37 | Shadowed | prediction and being able to go "O!@#$!#$!@#$ TANK 5% LOHLOHLOHLOH" |
| 07:15.40 | [Cu]Werik | I was going for spell crit, all I did was spamming flash of lights and never run out of mana |
| 07:15.43 | Nom- | so basically pally heals are 1.5 seconds and 2.0 seconds |
| 07:15.45 | Kirkburn | Hey, there's no invasion event on my server ... |
| 07:15.53 | [Cu]Werik | it ended Kirkburn |
| 07:15.56 | Corrodias | Kirkburn gets the shaft |
| 07:15.57 | Kirkburn | Wha!? |
| 07:16.15 | Shadowed | you didn't miss much |
| 07:16.17 | Corrodias | next on oprah |
| 07:16.29 | Kirkburn | I wanted the tabard! |
| 07:16.35 | Corrodias | events and noobs who miss them |
| 07:16.35 | Shadowed | only a fancy tabard that does a holy nova effect every 2 minutes |
| 07:17.05 | Kirkburn | Ah, nvm |
| 07:17.14 | break19 | Shadowed: I found a pic of the inside of our place pre-hurricane, but there's a slightly overweight shirtless ogre in the foreground.. so... lol |
| 07:17.23 | Shadowed | haha |
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| 07:18.25 | break19 | Shadowed: http://zex0s.home.mchsi.com/PC260015.JPG |
| 07:19.05 | Xuerian | Sigh, this lower bear health bonus blows chunks. |
| 07:19.16 | Shadowed | not suprising |
| 07:19.20 | Kirkburn | MY EYES! |
| 07:19.23 | break19 | heh |
| 07:19.25 | Shadowed | they don't want Druids to be able to tank on the same level as Warriors |
| 07:19.39 | Shadowed | hybrid class for a reason :p |
| 07:19.46 | Xuerian | We couldn't anyway. |
| 07:20.01 | Shadowed | they were good tanks in TBC actually |
| 07:20.04 | break19 | it was middle of winter... and I was driving over-the-road, so the only sun that touched me hit my face and arms. heh |
| 07:20.18 | break19 | Shadowed: my wife makes a damn good tank in DB form |
| 07:20.30 | Shadowed | Warriors are suppose to be better though |
| 07:20.36 | Corrodias | actually... |
| 07:20.55 | break19 | Shadowed: she has over 5k armor, and over 4k hp at lvl 60 DB form :p |
| 07:20.57 | Corrodias | from what i've read, druids are at approximately the same place for threat generation now that they were in before 2.0 |
| 07:20.58 | Kirkburn | Bloomin' sound is popping and crackling all over the shop :/ |
| 07:21.42 | Shadowed | warriors still have better mitigation overall though |
| 07:21.44 | break19 | Shadowed: she's alchemist, so she keeps all kinds of potions on hand, plus gift of the wild... man alive.. heh |
| 07:22.03 | Shadowed | Druids aren't *bad* tanks, but they shouldn't be better or on the same level as Warriors |
| 07:22.04 | Corrodias | gift of the wild is just kind of a waste. :( |
| 07:22.06 | break19 | she was taught good.. and it wasnt by me... :) |
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| 07:22.17 | Shadowed | Extra 270 HP isn't bad |
| 07:22.38 | Shadowed | little bit more armor, 1% dodge for Warriors |
| 07:22.45 | Xuerian | Hm... Well. I mind the swipe threat nerf more :P |
| 07:23.10 | Shadowed | Think that may have been related to the fact that they tanked better then Warriors in the leveling instances since there was like 4-6 mobs per a pull |
| 07:23.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | be nice if lacerate scaled from say levels 20-70 |
| 07:23.14 | break19 | Xuerian: uh oh... she's gonna be mad... |
| 07:23.46 | break19 | Xuerian: that's her preferred method keeping aggro on multiples. |
| 07:23.55 | Xuerian | Shadowed: Bah, that's what made it fun. Bears have always been better instance tanks (Could never beat a skilled warrior in any arena, but in general) |
| 07:24.04 | Xuerian | break19: Mine too |
| 07:24.06 | Shadowed | not in PVE :p |
| 07:25.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | break |
| 07:25.45 | Shadowed | 20/40 man Warriors are better on all of them pretty much |
| 07:25.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats the only way |
| 07:25.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | to keep aggro on multiples |
| 07:25.46 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: You can rely on crits off swipe, but the threat nerf sounds like it bites hard (To be fair, I haven't run a production instance with it yet...) |
| 07:25.47 | Corrodias | i wish Regrowth could cast just half a second faster |
| 07:25.47 | Corrodias | warstomp + regrowth would WORK then |
| 07:25.47 | break19 | Mr_Rabies2: wellllll... yea.. theres always toggling between, which is how my war alt handles it.. he loses aggro, toggled to it, taunts, gets some sunders, moves to the next target. |
| 07:25.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | its about a 75% threat reduction from what i hear, xue |
| 07:25.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | break |
| 07:25.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | the thing is |
| 07:25.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | maul isn't enough threat to keep switching targets with |
| 07:25.49 | Xuerian | ....??!@$21348uaosdhfihjof9283u4ociJO*U@!#O*$U!.... |
| 07:25.54 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 07:27.27 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 07:27.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have no sunder until 66 |
| 07:27.27 | Xuerian | Damnit purl, stab something for me! |
| 07:27.27 | break19 | Mr_Rabies: I know.. thats my point... shes not gonna be able to hold aggro as easy :) |
| 07:27.27 | Shadowed | ~stab Xuerian |
| 07:28.39 | purl | ACTION runs at Xuerian with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 07:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's like trying to tank purely with heroic strike now |
| 07:28.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it just doesn't work |
| 07:28.40 | Xuerian | Eeeeeearrrgh. |
| 07:28.40 | Xuerian | Why did they have to hit it THAT hard with the nerf bat? :P |
| 07:28.40 | break19 | Mr_Rabies: dont get me started with that.... *grumbles at the last war I went to BRD with* |
| 07:28.53 | Xuerian | Good purl. |
| 07:29.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | break: that's all we have until 66 now |
| 07:29.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | heroic strike |
| 07:30.37 | Shadowed | bear form auto attack is 1 attack speed? |
| 07:30.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.5 |
| 07:30.37 | Shadowed | s/1/1 second/ |
| 07:30.38 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 07:30.38 | Xuerian | gawd awful slow |
| 07:30.38 | Corrodias | what did we used ot have, Mr_Rabies? |
| 07:30.39 | break19 | luckily the wife was there (tho we had planned on her being mainly dps/cat and backup heals) my hunter pet was gonna offtank.. but if it hadnt been for a DAMN good resto druid with us, the poor dps-crazed rogue woulda died. alot.. |
| 07:30.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | heroic strike with a threat multiplier |
| 07:30.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | made up for not having sunder |
| 07:30.57 | Shadowed | I stopped caring about Rogues |
| 07:30.58 | Shadowed | if they get aggro, screw them they can die |
| 07:30.58 | Shadowed | i stopped caring about mages too |
| 07:30.58 | Xuerian | Rogues die too fast for me to bother healing. |
| 07:30.58 | Shadowed | and warlocks |
| 07:30.58 | Shadowed | and priests |
| 07:31.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd honestly rather lose lacerate and get maul back |
| 07:31.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | since every bleed immune mob is immune to lacerate |
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| 07:31.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | meaning we have no sunder versus a huge amount of bosses |
| 07:31.12 | break19 | Shadowed: thats the thing.. she kept saying "dude.. you need more aggro so I can unload on this guy" |
| 07:31.12 | Xuerian | Wait, was maul nerfed too...? |
| 07:31.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 07:31.12 | Xuerian | .... |
| 07:31.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was nerfed to heroic strike threat levels |
| 07:31.12 | Xuerian | WHAT THE FLYING MONKEY FORNICATION!?! |
| 07:31.12 | Corrodias | druids don't tank. |
| 07:31.12 | Xuerian | They don't NOW |
| 07:31.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | not anymore at least |
| 07:31.14 | Corrodias | bear is for pvp, lols |
| 07:31.14 | break19 | Shadowed: she's a damn good rogue, she rarely pulls aggro from the MT she's used to running with.. but he re-rolled on another server |
| 07:31.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | sitting in bear is a death wish in pvp |
| 07:31.16 | Shadowed | THANKS PURL |
| 07:31.16 | Corrodias | maybe for you night elves |
| 07:31.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm cat unless i'm carrying the flag most times |
| 07:31.20 | Shadowed | only took 60 seconds to say that |
| 07:31.27 | Corrodias | for a Tauren, we're about the same size, bear or not. |
| 07:33.15 | Xuerian | First they nerf transformation treats for pvp. |
| 07:33.15 | Xuerian | Now this. >:( |
| 07:33.18 | Corrodias | everyone was complaining about how well druids tank, you see |
| 07:33.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and i have less hp in 2.0.3-5 than i did in 1.12 |
| 07:33.18 | Corrodias | they had to nerf 'em |
| 07:33.18 | Xuerian | Corrodias: Why complain? |
| 07:33.18 | break19 | i need to go to sleep.. I got an early delivery. |
| 07:33.18 | Corrodias | i'm joking. quite sarcastic. |
| 07:33.18 | bleetah | everything's set to scale to 70 then, eh |
| 07:33.23 | Kirkburn | Oh god. |
| 07:33.24 | Kirkburn | My felguards name is: |
| 07:33.24 | Kirkburn | Flaathun. |
| 07:33.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's cool if we remove warrior sunder and give them it at 66 then? |
| 07:33.32 | break19 | she's flat, hun! |
| 07:33.32 | Xuerian | Geeez.... We put all our freaking talents into the stupid tree and we can't do jack tanking-wise now? |
| 07:33.32 | Kirkburn | He was Thoogun on beta |
| 07:33.33 | break19 | nite nite |
| 07:33.33 | Kirkburn | He also has no skills :D |
| 07:33.33 | Corrodias | druids got a free respec at 2.0.3, didn't they? |
| 07:33.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 07:33.33 | Xuerian | Corrodias: Again, yea |
| 07:34.47 | Corrodias | see, us resto-only druids don't have to worry about all this bear stuff. my bear form is a one-way ticket to death. :D |
| 07:34.47 | Corrodias | although that may be partly because i have no idea how to tank |
| 07:34.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | you just have to worry about getting dropped by me before pounce wears off |
| 07:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | :] |
| 07:34.48 | Corrodias | not if i don't pvp :P |
| 07:35.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | then all you have to worry is about getting burned out being in the most thankless, victimized role ever :p |
| 07:35.34 | Xuerian | Yanno, I don't see why getting mauled or swiped with bear claws would incite any less anger/rage/fury/aggro/retaliation then a sword. If not more >_> |
| 07:35.38 | Corrodias | well, yeah. actually, though, my guild is quite supportive. |
| 07:36.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hear healers get complimented once in a blue moon |
| 07:36.28 | Corrodias | Ich says i'm a good healer, but i think that's because whenever he's on a run, his Vampiric Embrace is healing everyone so much that i barely have to do anything until he runs out of mana |
| 07:36.33 | Xuerian | I'm being charged by a warrior with a sword and shield in armor so heavy he can hardly move, and a bear that can run 60mph and looks rather deranged and bloodthristy. Which one am I going to worry about more... >_> |
| 07:36.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i watched night at the museum tonight |
| 07:37.03 | Nom- | Hey, does pally get a talent which allows X% of regen in combat? |
| 07:37.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i decided |
| 07:37.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want a pet anubis |
| 07:37.10 | Corrodias | when his mana hits bottom, though, suddenly health is dropping like stingray victims. i have to pay attention. |
| 07:37.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | to guard my house |
| 07:37.15 | Xuerian | Hehe. One of those would be fun. |
| 07:37.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | also to clean my pool |
| 07:37.29 | Xuerian | Clean your pool? o.0 |
| 07:37.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i'm too lazy to clean it |
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| 07:37.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | an anubis would be good at that |
| 07:37.52 | Dhraga | Morning |
| 07:37.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | just replace his pike with a pool net |
| 07:37.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | and bam |
| 07:38.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | clean pool |
| 07:40.04 | Xuerian | I duno, a mini roman army would be pretty cool |
| 07:41.46 | Xuerian | Nice bait'n'switch, btw. |
| 07:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 07:44.08 | Xuerian | Ah well. Guild disbanded, friends left, bc came out. Good enough reasons to abandon my druid to the realm of addon testing anyhow. |
| 07:45.52 | Corrodias | yeah. come join us on Eldre'Thalas |
| 07:46.10 | Corrodias | the realm name being so unimpressive ensures that we'll never be too highly populated! |
| 07:47.31 | Elkano | \o/ I've hit 54 on my druid yesterday, so I managed to reach a new level maximum before BC came out ^^ |
| 07:49.31 | Nom- | You reached a new level maximum, you mean you dinged? |
| 07:50.06 | Elkano | well, I'm playing since US beta but my max char level was 53 on a rogue so far... |
| 07:50.17 | Nom- | oooh |
| 07:50.28 | Nom- | Why the heck are you bothing to level on beta still? |
| 07:50.44 | Corrodias | you misunderstood him |
| 07:50.54 | Corrodias | WoW beta, not TBC beta. or i misunderstood him. |
| 07:50.55 | Elkano | us beta -> 2k4 |
| 07:51.33 | Nom- | You mean you've been playing for 2 years and don't have a 60? |
| 07:51.52 | krka | my max is 54 or something too |
| 07:52.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Corrodias> the realm name being so unimpressive ensures that we'll never be too highly populated! |
| 07:52.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's named Llane, hardly anyone recognizes that name :p |
| 07:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | yet we had a 200 queue today |
| 07:53.10 | Corrodias | llane? at least it doesn't have a ' in it :( |
| 07:53.20 | Nom- | Aman'Thul ? |
| 07:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm on Cho'gall too |
| 07:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 07:53.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | medium pop tho |
| 07:53.29 | krka | Llane is the king in warcraft 1, right? |
| 07:53.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 07:53.33 | Nom- | There's heaps of realms with ' in the name |
| 07:53.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | first king of stormwind |
| 07:53.37 | Elkano | Nom-, exactly... I switched servers two times... 45 troll shaman on one but guild broke up, then started over again with some inet friends, leveled to 53 but they either stoped playing or changed guilds so I started again with RL friends which is running really fine now |
| 07:53.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | garona killed him |
| 07:53.54 | krka | Llame is a much better name :P |
| 07:54.07 | Nom- | lol Elkano - yah you really need to play with some people you know irl |
| 07:54.07 | Elkano | gorgonnash -> terrordar -> mannoroth |
| 07:54.13 | Nom- | Otherwise the game gets boring real quick |
| 07:54.23 | Kirov | hmm... can I define a local variable as a special character like · |
| 07:54.42 | Nom- | Mind you, there's so many people I know in my guild on Stormscale now, that it wouldn't matter |
| 07:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Elkano> gorgonnash |
| 07:55.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | gorgonnash has some TERRIBLE players :p |
| 07:55.45 | Kirov | US Gunnacrash? |
| 07:55.52 | Kirov | er, Gorgonnash? |
| 07:56.28 | Kirov | Mr_Rabies2 - are you on gorg? |
| 07:56.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 07:56.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | cho'gall |
| 07:56.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | same battlegroup |
| 07:56.46 | Kirov | ah |
| 07:56.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | some terrible terrible players though :p |
| 07:57.01 | Kirov | Aye |
| 07:57.06 | Elkano | Mr_Rabies, EU Gorgonnash |
| 07:57.07 | Kirov | both sides |
| 07:57.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh Elkano |
| 07:57.34 | Nom- | You can't play that much then, Elkano ? |
| 07:57.42 | Nom- | I mean it only takes 5 days ingame time to get 60 |
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| 07:58.18 | Elkano | well I have about 50 days played |
| 07:58.29 | Kirov | 5 days? |
| 07:59.46 | Corrodias | yes, if you move fast. |
| 07:59.47 | krka | most of us devs don't really grind as fast as possible to 60 |
| 07:59.47 | krka | atleast i don't |
| 07:59.50 | Kirov | I was going to say 5 days is slow |
| 07:59.51 | Kirov | People get to level 60 in a day now |
| 08:00.20 | Corrodias | that's not physically possible, as far as i'm aware. |
| 08:00.21 | Kirov | Horde side it is. |
| 08:00.21 | Corrodias | even the levelling competition ended with over 4 played days, didn't it? |
| 08:00.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | the current speed record is like 4 days and a few odd hours |
| 08:00.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | mancow/joana |
| 08:00.26 | Corrodias | explain, Kirov |
| 08:00.39 | Kirov | There was a guild posted a while back. |
| 08:00.42 | Elkano | well, my 54 has about 15days played |
| 08:00.47 | Matholum | hi |
| 08:01.11 | Kirov | My 60 is 17 days |
| 08:01.12 | Corrodias | in 1 day played i can reach 20, probably. |
| 08:01.49 | Kirov | My girlfriend hit 60 in 6 days once, 6 physical days amounting to less than 4 in game time |
| 08:03.30 | Matholum | can someone look at this for me plz? i am trying to make a dropdown and it isn't working -_-... (in frames tag) http://www.pastey.net/5118 and the script - http://www.pastey.net/5119 |
| 08:03.55 | Nom- | No, it's not possible to do in 1 day ingame time |
| 08:04.11 | Nom- | Horde side the record is 4 days 15 hours or thereabouts |
| 08:04.19 | Nom- | That's with no rested xp |
| 08:04.20 | Matholum | (wow! fast leveling!... i am slow -_-) |
| 08:05.40 | Nom- | Well my very first 60 was done in less than 10 days ingame time |
| 08:05.48 | Nom- | That was using no guides and just learning as I played |
| 08:05.58 | Xuerian | First and only 60 in 40 in-game days. |
| 08:06.04 | Matholum | @_@... you put me to shame |
| 08:06.09 | Nom- | I've got a druid and a rogue on track for about 5-6 days |
| 08:06.19 | Nom- | That's on a PvP server too |
| 08:07.01 | Matholum | i am still on my first character... and i am slow, take my time... and take time to program too... so i am lvl 12.... |
| 08:07.16 | Kirov | hehe |
| 08:07.20 | Nom- | heh with how much ingame time ? |
| 08:07.44 | Nom- | Horde side I generally do 1-20 in one sitting...about 8 hours or so |
| 08:07.59 | Matholum | probablt um..... 4 or five days... |
| 08:08.14 | Kirov | My main addon I work on is only useful for level 60 hunters who raid... and it's the 12 most downloaded addon |
| 08:08.15 | Nom- | Alliance side seems to be going a lot slower on my pally... i don't know the best quest order there yet |
| 08:08.26 | Matholum | i have had the game for a week and a half now total... |
| 08:10.32 | Matholum | btw, anyone see what is wrong w/ my dropdown? |
| 08:10.50 | Kirov | Matholum - dropdowns are a huge huge pain |
| 08:11.12 | Matholum | ya... i can tell.. this is my first one... |
| 08:11.32 | Matholum | i have my label but that is it |
| 08:11.49 | Kirkburn | 14 hours, 49 mins |
| 08:13.16 | Tierrie | there's no skill reset tomorrow right? |
| 08:13.26 | Nom- | Correct, Tierrie |
| 08:13.27 | bleetah | only for durids |
| 08:13.42 | Corrodias | you mean talents? |
| 08:13.44 | Nom- | I doubt that, bleetah...unless it was in the 2.0.5 patch |
| 08:13.45 | Tierrie | ok then time to finalize our skillsets :) |
| 08:14.00 | Nom- | All of the changes are in, tomorrow you just get to put in your expac code and start the grind |
| 08:14.03 | bleetah | cmon, durids haven't had enough new talent trees yet |
| 08:14.15 | bleetah | beed at least four more before BC |
| 08:14.19 | bleetah | s/beed/need/ |
| 08:14.31 | Nom- | pfffffft |
| 08:14.36 | Nom- | You got your points refunded already |
| 08:15.01 | bleetah | my 17 durid's real happy with that |
| 08:15.14 | Nom- | I'm 100% happy with my build tho, so even if my mage has points reset, i'd spec exactly the same |
| 08:15.26 | Nom- | The 10 points I get from 60-70 will just be used to pick up clear casting from the arcane tree |
| 08:15.56 | Nom- | 49 frost mage with clear cast = uber cheap frost spells :P |
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| 08:31.50 | Tierrie | whats a good quest log manager? |
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| 08:33.31 | Elkano | Nom-, tomorrow you'll install expac, patch up to current version again ;) and THEN start the lag... ähm... grind |
| 08:33.56 | Elkano | Tierrie, I use QuestFu (in case you use FuBar) |
| 08:34.38 | Matholum | T_T i can't figure out dropdowns |
| 08:34.53 | Elkano | Blizz dropdowns are crap :/ |
| 08:35.27 | Matholum | i <3 html dropdowns |
| 08:35.33 | bleetah | they don't cascade or scroll, do they? |
| 08:35.45 | Matholum | no |
| 08:35.56 | Matholum | but they are easy |
| 08:36.04 | Matholum | ^_^ |
| 08:36.21 | Elkano | well, feel free to use ckknight's DewDrop |
| 08:36.31 | Matholum | what is that? |
| 08:36.53 | ckknight | it's an easy-to-use configuration library |
| 08:37.16 | Matholum | i thnk i will have to look it up |
| 08:37.38 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 08:37.53 | Matholum | thanks! |
| 08:38.28 | Corrodias | i wonder if transporterfu has been updated for 2.0 |
| 08:38.40 | Matholum | here is what i have so far... (in frames tag) http://www.pastey.net/5118 and the script - http://www.pastey.net/5119 |
| 08:39.43 | Matholum | (oh... i have heard of ace.... alot of ppl don't like it...) |
| 08:40.20 | Corrodias | that reminds me, i still need to get in there and delete some embedded libraries |
| 08:41.05 | Matholum | other than easy drop downs, qhat all does ace do? |
| 08:41.20 | Matholum | *what |
| 08:41.35 | Corrodias | dewdrop isn't actually a part of Ace |
| 08:41.51 | Matholum | oh.... |
| 08:42.29 | Elkano | well, ace is basicaly a framework for OO addon coding that provides some basic addon functionality for you |
| 08:42.31 | Matholum | what is this then? im confused... local dewdrop = AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0") |
| 08:42.50 | Elkano | DeDrop isn't part of ace but it's based on it |
| 08:43.00 | Matholum | weird.... |
| 08:43.16 | Elkano | no ;) |
| 08:43.16 | Matholum | doyou have to have ace to use it? |
| 08:43.32 | Kirov | It's isn't part of the main "Ace2" library, but it is a library based on Ace2 |
| 08:43.33 | Elkano | at least some parts of ace, yes |
| 08:43.44 | Matholum | -_-... i am still an addon noob....sryry.... |
| 08:43.45 | Kirov | That make more sense? |
| 08:43.52 | Matholum | ya.... |
| 08:44.32 | Matholum | so is ace a good idea to use? i have heard alot of bad things about it |
| 08:44.52 | Corrodias | i haven't |
| 08:44.58 | Elkano | I only heard good things *hides* |
| 08:45.24 | Corrodias | the only disadvantages of which i'm aware are the possibly increased load time |
| 08:45.43 | Matholum | really? -_-... i dunno what to do! huh..... i guess i will use it |
| 08:46.03 | Kirov | Matholum - Ace and Ace2 have a lot of zealots on each side of the fence. |
| 08:46.22 | Matholum | but then my addons need that as a dependency? |
| 08:46.24 | Matholum | ya.... |
| 08:46.32 | Kirov | That's the thing about Ace2 |
| 08:46.35 | Kirov | It's embeded |
| 08:46.40 | Kirov | They're not "dependancies" |
| 08:46.45 | Matholum | cool |
| 08:46.50 | Kirov | They exist as files inside your addon |
| 08:47.24 | Matholum | i feel like i am cheating now lol.... |
| 08:47.31 | ckknight | yes. |
| 08:47.32 | ckknight | you are. |
| 08:47.34 | ckknight | it is cheating |
| 08:47.40 | ckknight | but everyone's doing it, man |
| 08:48.07 | Matholum | lol.... but as a programmer, the only thing that matters is that it works |
| 08:48.16 | Matholum | lol..... |
| 08:48.29 | Elkano | and it works rather good imho :) |
| 08:48.44 | bleetah | 99% of the 'ace is bad/good' arguments are a lot of twaddle |
| 08:49.03 | abug | ~twaddle |
| 08:49.11 | Corrodias | it makes your hair shiny, but then it all falls out! |
| 08:49.11 | bleetah | Matholum: go with whatever floats your boat, if you're new. 'till you get a feel for it all |
| 08:49.32 | Elkano | "I heard someone say that (bla)... thus I won't listen to any solid argumentation and not use that crap" ;) |
| 08:49.41 | ckknight | well, it's very nice, Matholum, I made it within the realm of Ace2, feel free to use it. |
| 08:50.34 | ckknight | you don't have to use the rest of the Ace2 stack to use Dewdrop |
| 08:50.35 | Elkano | for me it's: Ace2 doesn't make your addons better it just may help you to do it yourself |
| 08:50.55 | abug | ~slashdot |
| 08:51.07 | Matholum | ya, i dunno... i may as well mess around w/ it some and see how i like it... i mean... in main program languages someone had to make those libraries.... so there is nuthn wrong w/ more ^_^ |
| 08:51.21 | Matholum | so do i only need 2? |
| 08:51.48 | Matholum | i was just afraid there were alot of probs w/ it |
| 08:52.02 | Elkano | ck, what's the minimum for DweDrop? AceOO and AceLib? |
| 08:52.10 | ckknight | um, lemme check. |
| 08:52.18 | ckknight | may just be AceLibrary |
| 08:52.23 | Matholum | but it is all cool... i have made things like that b4 to shortcut things ^_^ |
| 08:52.37 | ckknight | though I have a sneaking suspicion that it requires AceEvent as well |
| 08:52.59 | Matholum | well.... in general, what are the ace things you need ? |
| 08:53.18 | ckknight | I'll tell you the dependencies, hang on |
| 08:53.23 | Matholum | kk |
| 08:53.27 | ckknight | Ace2 is a bunch of different libraries |
| 08:53.56 | Matholum | should i just get them all for later then? |
| 08:54.01 | ckknight | okay, AceLibrary |
| 08:54.03 | ckknight | that's it. |
| 08:54.07 | ckknight | just AceLibrary and Dewdrop |
| 08:54.15 | Matholum | ok... thanks |
| 08:54.58 | krka | why do you need to know the deps of DewDrop? aren't those included anyway? |
| 08:55.21 | ckknight | krka: no, since they're both libraries |
| 08:55.35 | ckknight | libraries have dependencies, they can't really be included in the other library |
| 08:55.47 | ckknight | granted, its dependencies are other libraries |
| 08:56.43 | ckknight | so to use Dewdrop, you need AceLibrary and Dewdrop-2.0 itself. |
| 08:56.49 | ckknight | if you have those, you're all good. |
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| 08:58.52 | Matholum | how do you dl it on that site? |
| 08:59.17 | Matholum | its all tutorials |
| 09:00.52 | Elkano | -> www.wowace.com/files/ace2 |
| 09:01.12 | Matholum | thanks |
| 09:01.39 | Elkano | case sesitive :/ -> www.wowace.com/files/Ace2 |
| 09:03.03 | Corrodias | i'm getting confused with macros :( |
| 09:04.31 | Corrodias | hm, wowwiki is unavailable? |
| 09:04.45 | Corrodias | wait, here it comes! |
| 09:11.29 | Corrodias | #show and #showtooltip appear to be doing nothing |
| 09:13.19 | Matholum | @_@ i am trying to figure this out now.... |
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| 09:17.40 | Matholum | other than the dewdrop page, is there an example of dewdrop anywhere? |
| 09:18.29 | Elkano | svn.wowace.com/wowace/ is full of examples ;) |
| 09:18.37 | Matholum | thanks |
| 09:21.31 | Corrodias | #show Healing Touch does nothing :/ |
| 09:22.14 | Corrodias | or not what i expect, anyway... |
| 09:24.11 | Corrodias | okay, i've got that figured out, now |
| 09:27.42 | cmunn | yay! My guild is tearing itself apart from the inside out, and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about it. |
| 09:30.06 | Corrodias | yay! :3 |
| 09:35.01 | Corrodias | i'd recommend you transfer and join us, but as of a couple of months ago, recruitment was restricted |
| 09:36.24 | Matholum | (button goes in frames, right?) |
| 09:38.03 | Corrodias | button goes in your mom. actually, i just have no idea. |
| 09:38.49 | Matholum | ok.... |
| 09:42.34 | Corrodias | damn, dranei are -hot-. |
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| 09:57.16 | abug | ~draenei |
| 09:57.34 | abug | purl, draenei is <reply> Draenei are -hot-. |
| 09:57.36 | purl | abug: okay |
| 09:57.41 | abug | purl, draenei |
| 09:57.44 | purl | Draenei are -hot-. |
| 09:59.34 | Matholum | ok... i found the problem in my original dropdown... it worked, it just doesn't have the pic for sum reason |
| 10:03.07 | Corrodias | excellent. purl has good taste. |
| 10:03.39 | Corrodias | and better spelling than i do |
| 10:04.23 | Matholum | anyone know why the pics don't show for UIDropDownMenuTemplate? |
| 10:06.12 | Kirov | nope |
| 10:06.17 | Kirov | never tried images in a dropdown |
| 10:06.37 | Matholum | lol.. no... that acual textures in the template |
| 10:06.53 | Matholum | *actual |
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| 10:33.28 | ckknight | I whipped your mom last night |
| 10:33.32 | ckknight | if you know what I mean |
| 10:33.36 | ckknight | and I bet you do |
| 10:33.41 | Corrodias | apparently you didn't realize, i was taping it |
| 10:33.59 | ckknight | meh, at least my johnson looks good on film |
| 10:34.20 | Corrodias | i'll be the judge of that |
| 10:35.48 | Matholum | is it possible that UIDropDownMenuTemplate is messed up... or does it have to be my code somehow? |
| 10:40.15 | sylvanaar | your code prolly |
| 10:40.46 | Matholum | but the drop down works, the textures taht area part of it just don't show up |
| 10:40.57 | Matholum | *that |
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| 10:47.35 | Matholum | here is my whole xml.... maybe i did sumn wrong... http://www.pastey.net/5121 |
| 10:54.21 | Matholum | does anyone see anything, you need the script too/ |
| 10:54.27 | Matholum | ? |
| 10:55.33 | Kirov | I can't find bugs in dropdown menus in my own code. :p |
| 10:56.03 | Matholum | lol... well this one is weird... it is only the textures... |
| 10:56.12 | Matholum | that makes me think it isn't me... |
| 10:56.18 | Matholum | but i dunno |
| 10:56.34 | Matholum | the dropdown part is fine,,,, -_- |
| 11:00.23 | Corrodias | "world server is down" |
| 11:00.28 | Corrodias | i think something is amiss in my realm! |
| 11:00.44 | mjgoossen | "1 – For Internal Use Only - DO NOT USE!" |
| 11:00.58 | mjgoossen | In World of Warcraft Client Patch 2.0.5 |
| 11:00.59 | mjgoossen | lol |
| 11:05.49 | Matholum | (sets what to 1?) |
| 11:05.59 | bleetah | text mode |
| 11:06.11 | Matholum | ah..... |
| 11:06.44 | bleetah | i wonder how many people have set it to 1 |
| 11:07.28 | Matholum | irc text mode? |
| 11:07.53 | bleetah | VT100 300/300 or 1200/75 |
| 11:08.05 | Matholum | (i am not very good w/ irc... i haven't used it in forever and i have never know anything except talking...-_-) |
| 11:08.16 | Matholum | *known |
| 11:09.10 | Matholum | bleehtah.... what is that? i am not following at all... lol |
| 11:09.36 | bleetah | oldman geek speak |
| 11:10.07 | Matholum | hmm... ok.... well.... i don't get it ^_^ |
| 11:13.12 | Mike-N-Go | Dang, ToU.5.B: |
| 11:13.34 | Mike-N-Go | Blizzard has the right to monitor your chat, or not to. |
| 11:14.02 | Mike-N-Go | The ToU was changed today. |
| 11:14.14 | Mike-N-Go | Updated, rather: I am reading it :P |
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| 11:15.20 | bleetah | they changed the 'you must live in ..' to 'if do not you live in ... you must obey local laws' |
| 11:15.25 | bleetah | iirc |
| 11:17.58 | Corrodias | according to the numbers... |
| 11:18.21 | Corrodias | it took me approximately 21 days played to get my druid to level 60 |
| 11:19.01 | Corrodias | setting what text mode to 1? |
| 11:19.29 | Matholum | (dunno...lol) |
| 11:22.44 | Kirov | Doesn't appear to have any affect |
| 11:23.05 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/5123 |
| 11:23.20 | Mike-N-Go | For yee who be confused. |
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| 11:23.50 | Mike-N-Go | There are the patch notes if you have not seen. |
| 11:23.53 | Matholum | I got my drop down working!!! |
| 11:24.15 | Matholum | (i was mixing the 2 types...) |
| 11:25.01 | bleetah | Kirov: probably some intermediary debug mode that may or may not eat your babies |
| 11:25.13 | Mike-N-Go | What is part 14 of the ToU about, lol. |
| 11:26.58 | Mike-N-Go | i mean, part 13 earler |
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| 11:27.06 | Mike-N-Go | s/e/I/ |
| 11:27.58 | Kirov | what's part 13? |
| 11:28.12 | bleetah | Force Majeure |
| 11:28.28 | bleetah | if an asteroid takes out the servers, as well as blizz's office, don't hurry looking for a refund |
| 11:28.45 | Mike-N-Go | Part 14, ".. BLIZZARD MAY 9 (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BAKC TO BLIZZARD.." |
| 11:29.11 | Matholum | is there anything in the wiki for UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedID() ?? |
| 11:29.38 | Matholum | i dunno the args -_- |
| 11:29.38 | Mike-N-Go | It communicates with it's self! ::gasp:: |
| 11:30.24 | Mike-N-Go | force majeure |ˌfôrs mäˈ zh ər| noun 1 unforeseeable circumstances that prevent someone from fulfilling a contract. 2 irresistible compulsion or greater force. |
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| 11:30.49 | Kirov | Matholum - it's not part of the API |
| 11:31.03 | Kirov | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ is your friend |
| 11:31.07 | Matholum | really? what is it? it works.... |
| 11:31.25 | Kirov | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2016180/FrameXML/UIDropDownMenu.lua |
| 11:31.32 | Kirov | It's just a function in lua |
| 11:32.00 | Matholum | oh... i technicality.... |
| 11:32.26 | Matholum | *** a |
| 11:33.52 | Kirov | Anyone know if there's a specific event for being disconnected? |
| 11:36.00 | Mike-N-Go | Event == "DISCONNECTED_FROM_SERVER" |
| 11:36.02 | Mike-N-Go | ? |
| 11:36.10 | Mike-N-Go | My guess. |
| 11:37.06 | Kirov | if only it were that easy |
| 11:40.45 | Mike-N-Go | I just read the ToU, good read! |
| 11:43.22 | Mike-N-Go | What is the purpose of a ToU, or an EULA? |
| 11:43.42 | Mike-N-Go | Is it to protect someone, or someting? |
| 11:43.58 | Mike-N-Go | If so, why would it need protection? |
| 11:44.23 | Kirov | It's so if someone tries to sue blizzard for something silly, blizzard can point that out and say, "but we told you right there." |
| 11:44.59 | Kirov | Most cases are silly enough that they'll get thrown out of court right there. |
| 11:45.09 | ckknight | Kirov: it's PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 11:45.30 | Kirov | EULA afaik have already been shown to not be legal in any real case. |
| 11:45.52 | Corrodias | unreasonable restrictions without adequate explanation |
| 11:46.08 | Kirov | ckknight - any way for me to be able to tell if that's a real disconnect, or just the player zoning? |
| 11:47.07 | ckknight | that's not a player zoning |
| 11:47.16 | Kirov | er, /reload |
| 11:47.16 | ckknight | PLAYER_LOGOUT happens on disconnect |
| 11:47.35 | ckknight | you hook ReloadUI |
| 11:47.41 | Kirov | heh |
| 11:47.44 | Kirov | fair enough |
| 11:47.59 | Mike-N-Go | what is 'fair' about hooking ReloadUI? |
| 11:48.26 | Cide | 'fair enough' is an idiom |
| 11:48.34 | Matholum | if you hook reloadUI, then doesn't it happen when that does? |
| 11:48.37 | Cide | fair enough |
| 11:48.37 | Cide | That's reasonable; I agree. For example, I'll wait just one more day.--Fair enough, you've been very patient. [Colloquial; early 1900s] |
| 11:48.40 | Kirov | I'm not an idiom! |
| 11:48.42 | Kirov | ;) |
| 11:49.15 | Mike-N-Go | I am young, please explain to me further? |
| 11:49.31 | Cide | id·i·om (Äd'Ä“-É™m) pronunciation |
| 11:49.31 | Cide | n. |
| 11:49.32 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:49.56 | Mike-N-Go | ~dict idiom |
| 11:50.25 | Corrodias | a phrase whose meaning bears little resemblence to the meaning of its words |
| 11:51.00 | Matholum | like... "well that stinks" |
| 11:51.37 | Corrodias | not exactly |
| 11:51.44 | Corrodias | in that case, "stinks" is just slang for being bad |
| 11:51.48 | Matholum | lol..... i thought i had tha tone\ |
| 11:51.55 | Matholum | *that one |
| 11:52.03 | Mike-N-Go | AV is starting, I horde, got any tips? |
| 11:52.17 | Corrodias | an example that i remember from school -- which nobody actually says -- is "go fly a kite", meaning leave me alone |
| 11:52.38 | Corrodias | or go occupy yourself in some other way that doesn't involve me. something like that. |
| 11:53.01 | Corrodias | Mike-N-Go: don't ignore IB GY while you defend Galv. they'll just go right past Galv if the D is too tough there. |
| 11:53.27 | Corrodias | have a couple of guys there. if O has trouble moving forward, be an example and ride across the bridge. |
| 11:53.36 | Corrodias | maybe somebody will follow you. |
| 11:55.48 | Corrodias | i've seen a few AV strategies, but nothing that will work with a PuG. the map is just too unbalanced. |
| 11:56.05 | Corrodias | luck is your best chance, there |
| 11:59.33 | Mike-N-Go | The problem is, people are in just for Hks, honor, whatever; things for themselves, not to help the group win as a whole. |
| 12:00.00 | Corrodias | the FIRST problem is that the alliance has paladins and we don't. |
| 12:00.21 | Corrodias | nigh-unto-unkillable flag protectors |
| 12:00.35 | Corrodias | the lucky part is that most of the time, there aren't any paladins smart enough to try to do that |
| 12:00.47 | Corrodias | on the offense side, anyway. i spend most of my time on D so i don't see their D paladins. |
| 12:01.44 | Corrodias | they lay their AoE cap-interrupter (which our Hurricane -isn't-) and bubble if you get them too low. woo. |
| 12:02.49 | Mike-N-Go | I am only a level 60 hunter, Tauren |
| 12:03.04 | Mike-N-Go | I have mostly level 52 blue gear. |
| 12:03.24 | Mike-N-Go | So it is like BAM dead in 6.7 seconds. |
| 12:04.06 | Corrodias | i'm not terribly familiar with what hunters can do, but let me think back to my experiences in AV, which is 98% of my PvP experience. hmm. |
| 12:04.40 | Corrodias | mostly they weren't a threat from what i can remember. there were a couple, but moreso in WSG. :/ |
| 12:04.43 | Kirov | Mike-N-Go - my suggestion for Horde in AV is /afk |
| 12:04.47 | Mike-N-Go | Hunters are known for there traps, mark, pet, and substaned ranged dps |
| 12:05.07 | Corrodias | they aren't in AV, but maybe that's just because they don't attack druids and i don't notice them. |
| 12:05.30 | Kirov | I always go after druids. |
| 12:05.36 | Corrodias | the pet can be an irritation if i'm trying to cast, and i suppose that would be more of an issue for a class without Hibernate and Barkskin |
| 12:05.46 | Mike-N-Go | Or, don't partisapate |
| 12:05.54 | Kirov | priests, shamans, druids, rogues, warlocks, hunters, warriors |
| 12:05.58 | Kirov | that's my basic order |
| 12:06.09 | Corrodias | the traps have limited use in AV, unless you lay traps around your flags |
| 12:06.15 | Mike-N-Go | Just leave wow in AV, and hit mouse every 4 seconds, Blizzard does not have trubble with that. |
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| 12:06.44 | Matholum | I am getting off... cya guys later! |
| 12:06.50 | Mike-N-Go | 4 minutes* |
| 12:07.30 | Mike-N-Go | Basic order for killing? |
| 12:07.33 | Corrodias | i hope the nude mod gets updated for TBC soon |
| 12:08.15 | Kirov | Mike-N-Go - aye, as an alliance hunter |
| 12:08.45 | Mike-N-Go | When on O, I just try to dot as much as I can before I die :) |
| 12:08.53 | Kirov | heh |
| 12:09.26 | Mike-N-Go | Remember, I have mostly level 52 blues. |
| 12:09.35 | Kirov | 8/8 ds |
| 12:09.39 | Mike-N-Go | I hope to get the PvP gear after a while. |
| 12:09.46 | Kirov | I love when other hunters attack me. |
| 12:09.56 | Kirov | I just stop, turn to them, and start shooting. |
| 12:10.00 | Mike-N-Go | And then they fall for FD :) |
| 12:10.00 | Kirov | 3-4 shots later they die |
| 12:10.09 | Mike-N-Go | :( |
| 12:10.19 | Mike-N-Go | Must be some epic-outed gear |
| 12:11.29 | Corrodias | he did say 8/8 ds |
| 12:11.30 | Corrodias | i'm a bit shaky on sets, but that's full dragonstalker, yes? tier som'n. |
| 12:11.30 | Cide | tier 2 |
| 12:12.07 | Kirov | http://ctprofiles.net/7783 |
| 12:12.47 | Corrodias | my druid is just a little guy designed for healing |
| 12:13.03 | Mike-N-Go | What should I go for, the 30K honor pvp armor, or the 100K honor PvP armor? |
| 12:13.16 | Mike-N-Go | The blue and purple respectively. |
| 12:13.27 | Cide | such a high ctprofile id you have Kirov |
| 12:13.29 | Corrodias | i need to improve my PvP healing attempts. i spend way too much time casting Roots. |
| 12:13.51 | Kirov | Cide - hmm? |
| 12:13.59 | Cide | 7783 times larger than mine! |
| 12:14.03 | Kirov | lol |
| 12:14.24 | Corrodias | that must mean he sucks |
| 12:14.31 | Cide | yep |
| 12:14.34 | Kirov | yes, well, I didn't create the site |
| 12:14.57 | Cide | heh, Max ID: 5004898 |
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| 12:15.02 | Cide | at least you don't suck that much! |
| 12:15.13 | Kirov | That's a lot of characters |
| 12:15.19 | Cide | that's profiles |
| 12:15.20 | Kirov | where do you guys get the bandwidth? |
| 12:15.30 | Cide | our pockets |
| 12:15.32 | Mike-N-Go | Moo |
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| 12:21.21 | Cide | Kirov: we have a couple of servers though, with some tb on each |
| 12:22.03 | Kirov | located in the US? |
| 12:22.10 | Kirov | or all over |
| 12:22.44 | Cide | ya, the us |
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| 12:24.12 | Corrodias | ~purl |
| 12:24.14 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is the embodiment of EVIL! |
| 12:24.14 | Cide | gotta go though, later! |
| 12:27.43 | Corrodias | ~ag` |
| 12:27.44 | purl | i guess ag` is the god responsible for the creation of ag unitframes |
| 12:29.59 | Corrodias | purl, Cairenn |
| 12:30.01 | purl | cairenn is probably one of the administrators of WoWInterface.com, also EQInterface, EQ2Interface and VGInterface |
| 12:30.15 | Corrodias | probably? there is suspicion? |
| 12:30.20 | zenzelezz | I see EU got 2.0.5 too... let's hope we can still play :-p |
| 12:30.33 | Corrodias | they've fixed the authentication issues, i think |
| 12:30.44 | Corrodias | purl, druids |
| 12:30.57 | Corrodias | nothing? purl is a doodoohead. |
| 12:31.08 | zenzelezz | that's the best part about being EU; you've got a whole day where the US guinea pigs are testing the patch for us |
| 12:31.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~druids |
| 12:31.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 12:31.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~batman |
| 12:31.28 | purl | batman is probably dah dah duh duh dah dah du duh batman! |
| 12:31.28 | Corrodias | what's the difference in those syntaxes, Mr_Rabies2? |
| 12:31.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 12:31.44 | Corrodias | batman hates ice cream, but we won't put that in purl |
| 12:31.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl, purl |
| 12:31.46 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is the embodiment of EVIL! |
| 12:31.56 | Corrodias | or perhaps it was chocolate |
| 12:31.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | same thing i guess |
| 12:33.45 | Corrodias | purl, WoW |
| 12:33.46 | purl | wow is probably the best game ever! |
| 12:33.55 | Corrodias | purl seems very unsure of things |
| 12:36.02 | Corrodias | you're out of touch, i'm out of time, but i'm out of my head when you're not around |
| 12:38.04 | Corrodias | purl, alliance |
| 12:40.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~horde |
| 12:40.24 | purl | it has been said that horde is PHP application framework http://www.horde.org/horde/ used for the popular IMP web email |
| 12:40.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | o_O |
| 12:40.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~desu |
| 12:41.43 | Corrodias | purl, alliance is <reply> the rebel alliance opposes palpatine's galactic empire |
| 12:41.45 | purl | okay, Corrodias |
| 12:42.08 | Corrodias | we could add capitalization, but i was lazy |
| 12:42.46 | Corrodias | yet, my neuoticism will not allow me to leave it at that. |
| 12:43.07 | Corrodias | purl, alliance is <reply> The Rebel Alliance opposes Palpatine's Galactic Empire. |
| 12:43.08 | purl | ...but alliance is already something else... |
| 12:43.16 | Corrodias | damn, what's that syntax. i have seen it... |
| 12:43.30 | Elkano | purl no, alliance is <reply> The Rebel Alliance opposes Palpatine's Galactic Empire. |
| 12:43.32 | purl | Elkano: okay |
| 12:43.44 | Elkano | ~alliance |
| 12:43.45 | purl | The Rebel Alliance opposes Palpatine's Galactic Empire. |
| 12:43.45 | Corrodias | i was about to say something close, but my commas were off |
| 12:43.50 | Corrodias | perfect |
| 12:44.10 | Elkano | ~goggles |
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| 12:44.19 | Elkano | :( |
| 12:44.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | there should be some Z goggles in the game |
| 12:44.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the flavor text should be "They do nothing" |
| 12:44.52 | Corrodias | Z goggles? |
| 12:44.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | Zee goggles |
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| 12:45.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | zay do nothing |
| 12:45.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | my eyeees |
| 12:45.52 | Corrodias | oh jesus. |
| 12:45.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=biE_xQRQUQM |
| 12:46.57 | Corrodias | i've never seen more than one simpsons episode. :( |
| 12:47.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy crap |
| 12:47.12 | Corrodias | although i think there was a Family Guy ep parodying the Simpsons one time while i was playing Outcast and not watching |
| 12:47.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i totally didnt realize fall out boy's name is a simpsons reference |
| 12:48.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh it's an accidental simpson's reference |
| 12:48.53 | Corrodias | who? |
| 12:49.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone in the audience gave them fallout boy as an idea and they didn't watch the simpsons and found out about it later or something |
| 12:49.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | Fall out boy, you know, crappy emo pop band thing |
| 12:49.24 | Corrodias | what audience.. |
| 12:49.36 | Corrodias | no, never heard of it |
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| 12:49.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | how the hell |
| 12:49.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | what country do you live in? |
| 12:50.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're blasted all over the damn radio and MTV and anything remotely music related over here :/ |
| 12:51.11 | Corrodias | i don't watch MTV and the only radio i listen to is one metal/rock station and an 80's/90's station |
| 12:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | well if only i could have not heard of them |
| 12:51.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | /cry |
| 12:51.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the rock stations around atlanta are crap |
| 12:52.08 | zenzelezz | there's an emo band named after the Fallout character? |
| 12:52.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | nononono |
| 12:52.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | Fallout boy from the simpsons |
| 12:52.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | Radioactive man's sidekick |
| 12:52.43 | zenzelezz | there's only one true Fallout boy, and that's the one from the games |
| 12:52.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | this crappiness: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vESeeJC-4nE |
| 12:53.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually i kinda like this song :x |
| 12:53.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | kindaaaa |
| 12:53.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | but their other stuff is pretty crappy |
| 12:54.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | like where it speeds up it sucks like most of their other stuff |
| 12:55.04 | Corrodias | i'm not going to watch it, okay? |
| 12:55.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | have fun being ignorant to fall out boy |
| 12:55.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | even if you hate the song |
| 12:55.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'll be stuck in your head all day |
| 12:55.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:| |
| 12:56.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause the chorus repeats about about 50,000 times in most of their songs |
| 12:56.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | now this |
| 12:56.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=GnEYSJufMTQ |
| 12:56.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is a music video |
| 13:04.06 | Corrodias | i'm listening to Dr.John (duet with Rickie Lee Jones) - Makin' Whoopee |
| 13:07.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | I'm listening to PC Speaker and the Television - Ambient Noise |
| 13:07.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 13:07.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | PC Fans and the Television - Ambient Noise |
| 13:07.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | my pc speaker is unplugged because it's annoying |
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| 13:08.26 | Corrodias | Renee & Renato - Save Your Love |
| 13:08.53 | Corrodias | fortunately, my headphones seem to almost entirely block out my two rather loud computers right on the desk on either side of my face |
| 13:11.01 | Corrodias | i feel like drinking tonight, but i should be going to bed at this time |
| 13:11.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i feel like standing in line for burning crusade for hours |
| 13:11.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohwait no i don't |
| 13:11.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | 15hrs 47mins 55secs until Burning Crusade. |
| 13:12.49 | Mike-N-Go | purl, druid |
| 13:14.06 | Mike-N-Go | Purl says 'probably' to protect it'sself, so it is not wrong. |
| 13:14.08 | purl | Mike-N-Go: I think you lost me on that one |
| 13:14.15 | Corrodias | purl, probably |
| 13:14.16 | purl | probably is, like, no and no is yes |
| 13:14.57 | Mike-N-Go | purl, explain |
| 13:14.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl, what is a man? |
| 13:15.01 | purl | Mr_Rabies2: what are you talking about? |
| 13:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 13:15.21 | Mike-N-Go | ~emulate purl |
| 13:15.22 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 13:15.25 | Corrodias | purl, a man |
| 13:15.28 | Mike-N-Go | purl, what is man? |
| 13:15.30 | purl | Mike-N-Go: I think you lost me on that one |
| 13:17.19 | Corrodias | let's see if i can do this right. |
| 13:17.38 | Corrodias | purl, a man is <define> What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! |
| 13:17.39 | purl | ...but man is already something else... |
| 13:17.53 | Corrodias | i didn't say man, you silly thing |
| 13:17.54 | Corrodias | ~man |
| 13:17.55 | purl | Tem and Tain are the man. |
| 13:18.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:| |
| 13:18.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 13:18.21 | Corrodias | methinks that should be indexed under "the man" |
| 13:18.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl, "a man" is <define> What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! |
| 13:18.23 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 13:18.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 13:18.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like multi-word stuff doesn't work |
| 13:18.41 | Corrodias | purl, the man is <define> Tem and Tain are the man. |
| 13:18.43 | purl | ...but man is already something else... |
| 13:18.56 | Corrodias | indeed. or we don't know the right syntax. |
| 13:19.18 | Corrodias | ~define "the man" Tem and Tain are the man. |
| 13:19.20 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 13:19.23 | Corrodias | ~dict |
| 13:19.40 | Corrodias | she just messaged me something i totally don't understand |
| 13:20.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~dict |
| 13:20.13 | Corrodias | but it does seem to delimit only on spaces. |
| 13:20.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 13:20.34 | Corrodias | ~dict wn |
| 13:20.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 13:21.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl, sotn |
| 13:21.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl, sotn is <define> What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! |
| 13:21.25 | purl | okay, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 13:21.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 13:21.30 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, sotn is <define> What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! |
| 13:21.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 13:21.40 | Corrodias | uh. |
| 13:21.58 | Corrodias | maybe she has PMS |
| 13:22.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl no,sotn is <reply> What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! |
| 13:22.06 | purl | Mr_Rabies2: okay |
| 13:22.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 13:22.14 | purl | What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! |
| 13:22.14 | Corrodias | reply, that's better |
| 13:22.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahHA |
| 13:22.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | THERE WE GO |
| 13:22.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | close enough |
| 13:22.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd love to be able to ask purl what a man is and get that but oh wells |
| 13:23.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's miserable little pile of secrets i think |
| 13:23.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see |
| 13:24.00 | Corrodias | i get 100 results in google for one and 142 for the other. :/ mixed with another phrase, of course. |
| 13:24.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc |
| 13:24.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 13:24.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl no,sotn is <reply> What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc |
| 13:24.46 | purl | okay, Mr_Rabies2 |
| 13:24.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 13:24.51 | purl | What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc |
| 13:25.39 | Corrodias | so it is. |
| 13:26.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | terribledubbing is terrible |
| 13:27.29 | Corrodias | Mr_Rabies2++ |
| 13:27.36 | Corrodias | karma for Mr_Rabies2? |
| 13:27.43 | Corrodias | maybe i need the ~ on the front |
| 13:27.47 | Corrodias | ~Mr_Rabies2++ |
| 13:28.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | somewhere between 9000 and 10,000 |
| 13:28.16 | Corrodias | maybe it's private messages. |
| 13:28.53 | Corrodias | i'm going to make this work. damn you, bot! |
| 13:29.12 | zenzelezz | I don't recall the bot giving any feedback to ++/--, just quietly modifying the stat |
| 13:29.21 | zenzelezz | at least the bots I've seen before |
| 13:29.32 | Corrodias | it's still reporting it as neutral, though |
| 13:30.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | why is this song so awesome http://youtube.com/watch?v=J5X1H7puyIk |
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| 13:32.19 | Corrodias | nickometer zenzelezz |
| 13:32.30 | Corrodias | ~nickometer zenzelezz |
| 13:32.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~nickometer Mr_Rabies2 |
| 13:32.55 | Corrodias | amazing |
| 13:32.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | woo |
| 13:33.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~nickometer Mr_Rabies |
| 13:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 13:33.13 | Corrodias | it's true |
| 13:33.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~nickometer Corrodias |
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| 13:33.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:| |
| 13:33.49 | Corrodias | ~literal sotn |
| 13:34.00 | purl | "sotn" is "<reply> What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc" |
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| 13:53.14 | subbawt | what is this 2.0.5 patch |
| 13:55.34 | clad|sleep | they tried to release it yesterday |
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| 13:55.40 | clad|sleep | they're pushing it today to the rest of you guys |
| 13:56.14 | Corrodias | it fixes a couple of small bugs, i think. |
| 13:56.31 | Corrodias | although at first there were some version authentication issues, they were sorted out. supposedly. |
| 13:56.36 | cladhaire | nah, just the UI Accelerations options I think |
| 13:57.16 | Corrodias | oh, i never did check out what that was |
| 13:58.38 | cladhaire | its just a CVar change |
| 13:58.51 | Corrodias | i mean, i have no idea what UI Acceleration is |
| 14:01.21 | cladhaire | very few do.. its some texture optimizations that they've been working on, I believe |
| 14:01.44 | kremonte | any french speakers around? :< |
| 14:02.14 | Corrodias | so 2.0.5 lets you disable some or all of it if it's giving you trouble |
| 14:02.40 | Corrodias | i wonder if that's part of why mousing over an item on my character panel drops my framerate to 18? could be an addon, though. i don't mind enough to find out. |
| 14:02.46 | cladhaire | my boyfriend just got into Oxford! |
| 14:03.11 | Corrodias | oxford is a city, yes? |
| 14:03.25 | cladhaire | college |
| 14:03.31 | kremonte | congrats to him |
| 14:09.30 | Corrodias | they key to success in college is vodka. |
| 14:09.33 | Corrodias | it can be mixed with anything. |
| 14:25.26 | Corrodias | Bon Jovi - You Give Love A Bad Name |
| 14:25.36 | Corrodias | bon jovi is like aural sex. |
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| 14:25.57 | Corrodias | ...i wonder |
| 14:26.02 | Corrodias | purl, bon jovi |
| 14:26.20 | Corrodias | praise jebus |
| 14:33.12 | zenzelezz | I wish WoW had the size system Anarchy Online had for characters :-/ |
| 14:33.32 | zenzelezz | nothing looks neater than a tank three times or more taller than the rest |
| 14:33.37 | sysrage | i wish it had the dye system DAOC had :) |
| 14:34.16 | Orclev | I wish it had the character creation system that city of villains had |
| 14:34.22 | sysrage | heh |
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| 14:35.50 | Bouvi | I know I played CoH just for character creation |
| 14:36.05 | zenzelezz | O_o |
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| 14:37.46 | zenzelezz | I'm always biased about AO, since it was my first MMO, but I really miss several aspects of it... but they were easier to get away with in a sci-fi game |
| 14:37.47 | Orclev | yeah, CoV kind of lost its luster after you get done making a character or two |
| 14:38.34 | Orclev | I loved PSO... although I recently got PSU and I'm kind of disapointed in it |
| 14:39.24 | Orclev | they barely even tried it seems like... looks like they're using the same old graphics engine they used in PSO, and it's starting to show it's age a bit, not to mention the fact that it was designed for console use |
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| 14:47.08 | Corrodias | http://achewood.com/index.php?date=02262002 |
| 14:49.17 | Industrial | ~seen Mr_Rabies2 |
| 14:49.25 | purl | mr_rabies2 is currently on #wowi-lounge. Has said a total of 273 messages. Is idling for 1h 15m 46s, last said: '>:|'. |
| 14:49.38 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: >:O |
| 14:49.44 | Industrial | zomg |
| 14:49.45 | Industrial | ZOMG |
| 14:49.56 | Industrial | "Seinfeld - All episodes has finished downloading" |
| 14:49.57 | Industrial | wewt! |
| 14:50.48 | sysrage | worst show ever |
| 14:51.02 | Industrial | i love it |
| 14:51.18 | Bouvi | The best show about nothing |
| 14:51.29 | Industrial | he gets it |
| 14:51.30 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:51.53 | Corrodias | i liked it. |
| 14:52.06 | Bouvi | To all of you off work today :P |
| 14:54.48 | Bouvi | purl, cladhaire |
| 14:54.52 | purl | i heard cladhaire is the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons. He is also a core developer of the Ace project. People in #wowace also know him as 'Mr. Lightningfingers.' To find cladhaire, one should look on wowinterface, as he no longer frequents the wowace channel or forum. |
| 14:55.29 | Industrial | woo thats old |
| 14:55.32 | cladhaire | lol |
| 14:55.40 | Bouvi | Yeah he should mention Clique!!! |
| 14:56.23 | zenzelezz | he? |
| 14:56.30 | cladhaire | ... yes.. he? |
| 14:56.33 | cladhaire | no vagina here. |
| 14:56.53 | zenzelezz | somehow I don't think he was talking about you |
| 14:57.05 | [Ammo] | people confusing you with cairenn? |
| 14:57.08 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 14:57.12 | cladhaire | what in the hell are you talking about? |
| 14:57.23 | zenzelezz | I expected he was talking to/about purl |
| 14:57.37 | [Ammo] | nevermind |
| 14:57.45 | cladhaire | *boggle* |
| 14:58.13 | cladhaire | me too |
| 14:58.18 | zenzelezz | I could of course be the one that's wrong, but why should cladhaire out of nowhere mention Clique? |
| 14:58.24 | zenzelezz | purl was the one that was talking about him |
| 14:58.27 | Bouvi | I was talking about Purl. Is Purl a he or she or it? |
| 14:58.34 | cladhaire | purl is a girl |
| 14:58.36 | zenzelezz | ~emulate purl |
| 14:58.37 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 14:58.37 | cladhaire | but purl isn't human |
| 14:58.38 | cladhaire | hence my confusion. |
| 14:58.41 | [Ammo] | purl is a program |
| 14:58.51 | zenzelezz | you guys suck |
| 14:58.51 | cladhaire | so purl can't mention anything. |
| 14:58.55 | cladhaire | somneone has to tell her what to say |
| 14:58.58 | cladhaire | =) |
| 14:59.02 | cladhaire | hence the confusion |
| 14:59.05 | Bouvi | Well then A.I. She should mention Clique |
| 14:59.15 | zenzelezz | I've talked to walls that are more fun than you people! |
| 14:59.17 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 14:59.28 | Bouvi | Or someone should fix A.I. Her to mention Clique LOL |
| 14:59.30 | kremonte | zenzelezz: you must have very interesting walls |
| 14:59.35 | Bouvi | purl, Bouvi |
| 14:59.41 | zenzelezz | kremonte: no, they're very dull |
| 14:59.56 | kremonte | zenzelezz: what amuses you then? hah |
| 14:59.59 | Bouvi | And someone should tell A.I. Her about me lol |
| 15:00.48 | kremonte | is there any way to make a default option for aceconsole slash commands? #wowace won't answer :{ |
| 15:01.03 | Bouvi | WOOT!! 2 item(s) shipped via NEXT DAY on 01/15/07 Anyone care to guess what it is? |
| 15:01.15 | zenzelezz | porn |
| 15:01.20 | kremonte | burning crusade and hentai? |
| 15:01.36 | cladhaire | mine hasn't shipped yet. |
| 15:01.38 | Bouvi | 2 copies of BC could not get one without wifey |
| 15:02.33 | Bouvi | Best thing is it cost us nothing. Best Buy gift cards we have been saving since Sept 30th (her b-day). Got em for my b-day and X-mas too. |
| 15:03.23 | [Ammo] | TBC timer with a twist: http://www.counter-strike.org.uk/paul/tbc.htm |
| 15:05.44 | cladhaire | heheh |
| 15:07.42 | Orclev | purl, bruning crusade |
| 15:07.44 | Orclev | eh |
| 15:07.49 | Orclev | purl, burning crusade |
| 15:07.50 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, burning crusade is an expansion pack for the successful MMO, World of Warcraft, by Blizzard. Reportedly, it will break all addons, add Tauren priests, not allow you to target anyone, cast any spells, use any weapons, heal any friends, chat, log off, use web browsers, or kill things. It will randomly curse you and 25 of your friends ... |
| 15:08.15 | Orclev | purl, burning crusade is also bound to cause massive queues |
| 15:08.16 | purl | Orclev: okay |
| 15:08.27 | cladhaire | wait |
| 15:08.29 | Orclev | purl, burning crusade |
| 15:08.31 | purl | well, burning crusade is an expansion pack for the successful MMO, World of Warcraft, by Blizzard. Reportedly, it will break all addons, add Tauren priests, not allow you to target anyone, cast any spells, use any weapons, heal any friends, chat, log off, use web browsers, or kill things. It will randomly curse you and 25 of your friends and 25 of their friends ... |
| 15:08.31 | cladhaire | you just overwrote tht whole thing. |
| 15:08.36 | Orclev | nope |
| 15:08.37 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:08.40 | cladhaire | ooh neat |
| 15:08.45 | cladhaire | never seen pourl allow appends =) |
| 15:08.55 | Orclev | hmm... it didn't append though |
| 15:09.00 | Orclev | that's wierd |
| 15:09.17 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 15:09.33 | zenzelezz | you have to tell it to append or it will replace the existingone |
| 15:09.41 | Orclev | I did tell it to append |
| 15:09.47 | Orclev | and it said Okay |
| 15:09.51 | Orclev | but didn't do anything |
| 15:09.53 | zenzelezz | well then your confusion is more justified |
| 15:10.21 | Orclev | maybe it's too long |
| 15:10.55 | Orclev | that's probably it, exceeded the allowed message size |
| 15:10.55 | Orclev | hence the ... |
| 15:11.10 | Orclev | purl, patch night |
| 15:11.44 | Orclev | purl, patch night is Guaranteed to bring the servers to their knees. |
| 15:11.46 | purl | Orclev: okay |
| 15:11.57 | Orclev | purl, patch night |
| 15:11.58 | purl | i guess patch night is Guaranteed to bring the servers to their knees. |
| 15:12.04 | sysrage | have the 'rolling restarts' happened yet? |
| 15:12.19 | zenzelezz | prepend <reply> to that factoid Orclev and it'll look better =) |
| 15:13.00 | Orclev | hmm.... don't remember how to do a prepend... will it accept a regex... Guess I'll try |
| 15:13.18 | zenzelezz | just tell it "no, patch night is <reply> [...]" |
| 15:13.23 | Bouvi | So how do I put info about me on it :D |
| 15:13.32 | zenzelezz | Bouvi: the bot? |
| 15:13.39 | Industrial | so TBC is tomorrow right? |
| 15:13.43 | Bouvi | Yes the A.I. Shebot |
| 15:13.45 | Orclev | purl, patch night is s/^Guaranteed/<reply> Guaranteed/ |
| 15:13.47 | purl | ...but patch night is already something else... |
| 15:13.51 | Orclev | hmm |
| 15:13.52 | Orclev | nope |
| 15:13.59 | Industrial | ~patch night |
| 15:14.00 | purl | hmm... patch night is Guaranteed to bring the servers to their knees. |
| 15:14.00 | zenzelezz | Orclev: see what I just told you |
| 15:14.15 | Corrodias | size of the jpeg on that timer page: 1344.19 KB |
| 15:14.17 | Corrodias | it's not even very large. |
| 15:14.32 | Orclev | purl, no, patch night is <reply> Guaranteed to bring the servers to their knees. |
| 15:14.33 | purl | Orclev: okay |
| 15:14.39 | Orclev | ~patch night |
| 15:14.41 | purl | Guaranteed to bring the servers to their knees. |
| 15:14.57 | Orclev | hmm, ok, but I know there is a way to make it change it with a regex |
| 15:15.08 | Orclev | ~test |
| 15:15.09 | purl | Test Failed! |
| 15:15.39 | Corrodias | purl, no, patch night is <reply> Patch night is gauranteed to bring the servers to their knees. |
| 15:15.41 | purl | okay, Corrodias |
| 15:15.50 | Corrodias | spelling and grammatical correction |
| 15:15.54 | sysrage | except you spell guaranteed wrong ;) |
| 15:15.59 | Orclev | heh, grammer natzi :P |
| 15:16.01 | Corrodias | guar? |
| 15:16.10 | Corrodias | it can't be guarantee... |
| 15:16.17 | zenzelezz | it is |
| 15:16.20 | Corrodias | well holy shit. |
| 15:16.24 | Orclev | perl, orclev is testing something |
| 15:16.27 | Orclev | ~orclev |
| 15:16.37 | Corrodias | my apologies |
| 15:16.41 | Orclev | perl, orclev |
| 15:16.45 | Orclev | hmm |
| 15:16.48 | Corrodias | purl, no, patch night is <reply> Patch night is guaranteed to bring the servers to their knees. |
| 15:16.50 | purl | okay, Corrodias |
| 15:16.50 | Orclev | doh |
| 15:16.51 | Corrodias | ~literal patch |
| 15:16.52 | purl | "patch" is "just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1', or `patch -ruN old_dir new_dir > tree.diff`" |
| 15:16.57 | Corrodias | ~literal patch night |
| 15:16.59 | purl | "patch night" is "<reply> Patch night is guaranteed to bring the servers to their knees." |
| 15:17.04 | Orclev | purl, orclev is testing something |
| 15:17.05 | purl | Orclev: okay |
| 15:17.15 | Corrodias | it wouldn't let us do multi-word things before... |
| 15:17.45 | Corrodias | maybe it strips articles like "a" |
| 15:17.48 | zenzelezz | ~literal poke |
| 15:17.58 | Orclev | purl, no, orclev is s/testing/trying/ |
| 15:18.00 | purl | Orclev: okay |
| 15:18.02 | Orclev | ~orclev |
| 15:18.03 | purl | you are, like, s/testing/trying/ |
| 15:18.07 | Orclev | hmm |
| 15:18.17 | Orclev | I wish I could remember how to do that |
| 15:18.44 | Orclev | suppose I could just go grab the source code |
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| 15:19.27 | Corrodias | i should sleep, now. 'ni |
| 15:19.40 | Orclev | ah, thats it |
| 15:19.51 | Orclev | purl, no, orclev is testing something |
| 15:19.52 | purl | Orclev: okay |
| 15:20.01 | Orclev | purl orclev =~ s/testing/trying/ |
| 15:20.01 | purl | Orclev: OK |
| 15:20.05 | Orclev | purl, orclev |
| 15:20.07 | purl | it has been said that orclev is trying something |
| 15:20.11 | Orclev | there we go |
| 15:20.30 | Orclev | purl, forget orclev |
| 15:20.50 | Bouvi | purl, bouvi |
| 15:20.52 | purl | Bouvi is the author of Auto_LootFu but is best known for his UIs. Both can be found at wowinterface.com. Bouvi also has a weekely UI newsletter. http://www.bouvi.com/pages/newsletter.htm. Visit http://www.bouvi.com for more. |
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| 15:21.08 | Bouvi | hehe |
| 15:21.26 | Orclev | hmm |
| 15:21.50 | Orclev | purl, karma for orclev |
| 15:21.50 | purl | for orclev has neutral karma |
| 15:22.09 | Orclev | it's starting to lag a bit... maybe we're hitting it too hard :P |
| 15:22.10 | Corrodias | so... http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RbxVc0f0xcZZVVMhRfxs0o or http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=RbxVc0cZZVVMIRfxsbop ? |
| 15:23.08 | Corrodias | how cool is this water elemental? |
| 15:24.14 | Orclev | hmm, only lasts for 45 seconds... hopefully it's good. I know the trees you can summon on the druid balance tree are supposed to be pretty cool |
| 15:24.27 | Bouvi | I LOVE my water elemental |
| 15:24.37 | Bouvi | Short cooldown and can get me out of a bind |
| 15:24.56 | Corrodias | okay... but what can it -do-? |
| 15:25.15 | Bouvi | It fights for you |
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| 15:25.28 | Bouvi | It can shoot ice bolts and freeze targets |
| 15:26.21 | Corrodias | so do you think i should go all-out and get the elemental, at the cost of Arcane Potency and Arcane Mind? |
| 15:26.32 | Corrodias | as shown in the two builds i just linked |
| 15:26.50 | Bouvi | I am a pure frost build but I am new to mages just started it and only at 55. |
| 15:27.16 | Bouvi | So asking me build specifics might not be good but I do love the water elemental |
| 15:27.22 | Corrodias | "just started" at 55, jeez... |
| 15:27.38 | Corrodias | i have determined that it took me 21 days "played" to reach level 60 on my silly druid >:P |
| 15:28.00 | Bouvi | I am at 9 days played right now |
| 15:28.32 | Corrodias | my druid doesn't like you. |
| 15:28.33 | Bouvi | I bought a leveling guide. All legit no hacks, etc. Just step by step and linked the quest to thottbot so was a breeze. |
| 15:28.35 | sysrage | imo, full ice owns for grinding... arcane/fire owns for pvp |
| 15:28.40 | Bouvi | My rogue took 30 days. |
| 15:29.07 | sysrage | and i still kick some butt in pvp being full frost |
| 15:29.27 | Bouvi | I doubt I will ever PvP with my mage. So will probably stay ice build unless I get curious about other styles. |
| 15:29.56 | Orclev | this is the druid build I'm looking at: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0xcruiIsguAox0h |
| 15:29.57 | Corrodias | at first, i was tempted by Fire, but then i saw the light -- and the crit potential -- of frost. |
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| 15:30.41 | Bouvi | I do crit quite a bit. Definatly a PvE build thou. |
| 15:31.00 | Bouvi | However Frost against water elementals and Ice Yetis are VERY lacking lol |
| 15:31.13 | Corrodias | well, you can skill cast Firebolt |
| 15:31.20 | Corrodias | and other fire spells. they just aren't as effective. |
| 15:31.31 | Bouvi | I do and it just takes longer to kill em. |
| 15:31.45 | sysrage | when goin up against water/ice mobs it just means it's time to bust out fireball and arcane missile :) |
| 15:31.55 | Orclev | can't decide if I should allocate the points for the thick hide to get the extra 10% armor, or spend them in restoration to try and improve my healing ability a bit... would like to save my mana for offense rather than healing, so in theory the armor is better |
| 15:34.01 | Corrodias | i couldn't help you. i only know about healing. |
| 15:34.24 | Orclev | of course considering the casting cost of moonking form, this might be good as well: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MxcruiIsguAoZx0h |
| 15:34.30 | Orclev | moonkin even |
| 15:35.11 | Corrodias | i'd say "there you go" if you plan on popping out to heal and then back into moonkin to fight |
| 15:35.26 | jaxdahl2 | under 13.5 hours to go in the usa |
| 15:35.29 | Orclev | yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| 15:35.39 | Corrodias | jaxdahl2: until... midnight. |
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| 15:36.15 | Orclev | plus with the +360% armor boost from moonkin an extra 10% isn't worth as much as a 30% cost reduction in shifting |
| 15:36.41 | Corrodias | ask yourself, do you really want Brambles? |
| 15:36.57 | Corrodias | i don't use Roots for its damage |
| 15:37.07 | Orclev | hmm, well, the extra 75% damage from thorns is nice |
| 15:37.28 | Corrodias | i don't use Thorns as much as i should, but i recall its damage being pretty silly anyway |
| 15:37.33 | Corrodias | like 12 per hit |
| 15:37.46 | Orclev | depends on level I think, but yeah, it's kind of low |
| 15:38.37 | Corrodias | just speculation, but you might want to sacrifice that for Omen of Clarity, which i hear is the shiznit, like so: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=MxcrziIsguAoZxMhz |
| 15:38.57 | Orclev | was just looking at that actually |
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| 15:38.59 | Corrodias | although the shiznit-hearing was from feral druids, i think |
| 15:39.04 | Lasivian | is there a 61-70 rogue leveling build anyone knows of? |
| 15:39.26 | Corrodias | i believe i had one based on maces, but that was for 2.0.1, not 2.0.3+ |
| 15:39.46 | Orclev | although I rather allocate those 2 points in naturalist as opposed to natures focus |
| 15:39.47 | Lasivian | I never got a chance to go raiding so i'm still dual-sword spec |
| 15:40.40 | Orclev | actually nevermind, miss-read that, thought it said damage, not physical damage |
| 15:40.51 | Bouvi | Mine is a combat build with offhand weapons Lasivian |
| 15:40.56 | Corrodias | yeah, i was typing something very long. |
| 15:41.31 | Bouvi | My lvl 70 build http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhg0oxZMhEz0VzVrGRt |
| 15:41.45 | Bouvi | for my rogue |
| 15:42.23 | Corrodias | fist weapons, an unusual choice... |
| 15:43.22 | Neuro_Medivh | sorry, don't know rogues, only mages... and the mage levelling build is all frost |
| 15:43.36 | Bouvi | I have Claw of the Black Drake |
| 15:43.54 | Bouvi | I love the Fist weapons as it is unique. |
| 15:44.19 | Bouvi | My only complaint is I should be able to backstab with a claw just as easily as a dagger. |
| 15:44.52 | Orclev | I'm thinking of doing a blood elf mage |
| 15:44.57 | Corrodias | question: Elemental Precision (Reduces mana cost of Fire and Frost spells by 3% and reduces targets' chance to resist them by 3%) // or // Arcane Meditation (allows 15% of mana regen to continue while casting) ? |
| 15:45.19 | Corrodias | you can't do that, Orclev. that's what i'm doing. |
| 15:45.26 | Orclev | my gut says arcane meditation |
| 15:45.29 | Corrodias | stop trying to steal my popular ideas. |
| 15:45.29 | Orclev | hehe |
| 15:45.39 | Neuro_Medivh | BE mages are nice... but to be honest, BE rogues are going to be so powerful |
| 15:45.58 | Corrodias | why's that? |
| 15:46.00 | Orclev | hmm, well, I already have a rogue, I don't have a mage |
| 15:46.00 | Neuro_Medivh | their racial |
| 15:46.07 | Corrodias | i'm afraid i'm not familiar with it. |
| 15:46.13 | Orclev | BE Rogue will be a bitch |
| 15:46.16 | Neuro_Medivh | it's a silence |
| 15:46.23 | Neuro_Medivh | PLUS, it restores mana/rage/energy |
| 15:46.36 | Neuro_Medivh | mana and rage aren't a big deal, but the energy one is HUGE |
| 15:46.36 | Corrodias | -huh-. |
| 15:46.50 | Neuro_Medivh | cause rogues live and die by their energy |
| 15:47.03 | Orclev | their racial silences an opponent and regens the BE's mana/rage/energy |
| 15:47.21 | Neuro_Medivh | the mana you get at lvl 70 is hardly noticable |
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| 15:47.29 | Corrodias | well, now, taurens get their warstomp and undead have their will. i suppose it's only reasonable that blood elves kick some ass, too. |
| 15:47.33 | Neuro_Medivh | but the energy you get at 70 is very noticable |
| 15:47.54 | Orclev | BE Mage is essentially an anti-caster caster |
| 15:47.56 | Neuro_Medivh | BE paladins will be quite good as well |
| 15:48.08 | Neuro_Medivh | Paladins who can silence... nasty |
| 15:48.15 | Corrodias | paladins already have a ranged stun |
| 15:48.23 | Corrodias | what's the length on this silence effect? |
| 15:48.42 | Corrodias | (i hate them so much) |
| 15:48.49 | Neuro_Medivh | 2 seconds I think |
| 15:50.00 | Corrodias | what do draenei get? |
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| 15:51.14 | Laric | what ranged stun does pallys have? |
| 15:51.59 | Neuro_Medivh | Draenai get a heal over time |
| 15:52.25 | Neuro_Medivh | so once again, Alliance racial = pve, horde racial = pvp =) |
| 15:52.32 | Corrodias | i don't know, Laric. you'd have to ask the paladins who kick my ass in AV. |
| 15:52.39 | Corrodias | ask them how they stun me at a distance. |
| 15:52.47 | Corrodias | I CANT SAY IVE EVER DONE IT MYSELF |
| 15:54.37 | Corrodias | i have issues with paladins |
| 15:55.00 | Laric | I have a paladin and have no clue on how to stun on range |
| 15:55.21 | Laric | of course it is alt #4 |
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| 15:55.42 | Neuro_Medivh | well, the only spell stun they have is hammer of justice |
| 15:55.48 | Neuro_Medivh | which is 10yrd |
| 15:56.14 | Srosh | they also can get Repentance |
| 15:56.16 | Corrodias | that's probably it, then. i can't say exactly how far away they are, and it's not "really far", but it's not within stompin' range. |
| 15:56.17 | Neuro_Medivh | but most paladins I know also have the stun trinket |
| 15:56.26 | Corrodias | "stun trinket"? |
| 15:56.37 | cladhaire | HoJ |
| 15:56.53 | Corrodias | i'm afraid i don't know what that is, even by the acronym |
| 15:57.05 | cladhaire | Hand of Justice |
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| 15:57.09 | cladhaire | drops in BRD |
| 15:57.24 | Neuro_Medivh | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=5464 |
| 15:57.25 | Neuro_Medivh | no |
| 15:57.28 | Neuro_Medivh | tidal charm |
| 15:58.27 | Neuro_Medivh | thankfully, it got nerfed for TBC |
| 16:00.11 | Corrodias | i can't even be happy that the horde is getting paladins. that would be like bombing Japan's civilians and being happy about it. oops! |
| 16:00.12 | Orclev | oh, I heard something the other night that sent my bullshit meter off the scale. Someone claimed the druids will be able to shapeshift into a flying mount in the expansion |
| 16:00.27 | TC_Working | it's good to be a lock http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=17678 |
| 16:00.33 | Corrodias | yeah, you cannot ride druids. |
| 16:00.37 | foxlit | Question: Buttons\ButtonHilight-SquareQuickslot.png has a solid black background |
| 16:00.42 | Corrodias | they -can- fly, but they don't carry people |
| 16:00.47 | foxlit | You do I get rid of it in LUA? |
| 16:01.00 | foxlit | s/You/How/ |
| 16:01.12 | foxlit | they keys are like so close :/ |
| 16:01.19 | Bouvi | Can't decide what type of Draenei I want to make. I do not think I would enjoy Paladin or hunter and there will be hundreds of shaman. Already have a high level 38 priest and lvl 55 mage. |
| 16:01.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Then Warrior |
| 16:01.42 | zenzelezz | high level 38? |
| 16:01.51 | Orclev | will that be a talent, or will all druids get that? |
| 16:01.52 | Bouvi | Well high level for me lol. |
| 16:01.55 | Neuro_Medivh | warrior with a self-heal = yummy |
| 16:02.05 | zenzelezz | Orclev: like paladin/warlock mounts I think |
| 16:02.06 | Bouvi | I mean warrior or paladin. I might enjoy a hunter |
| 16:02.16 | Corrodias | all druids can buy the flight form, as far as i'm aware |
| 16:02.27 | Bouvi | Or I could just make a shaman just for fun. |
| 16:02.42 | Corrodias | ~draenei |
| 16:02.44 | purl | Draenei are -hot-. |
| 16:02.52 | Orclev | ah, now I see it... how did I miss that before |
| 16:02.58 | Corrodias | thus, make a hot draenei. it doesn't matter what class you use. |
| 16:02.59 | foxlit | [Correct answer: alphaMode="ADD"] |
| 16:03.01 | Corrodias | just make it hot. |
| 16:03.14 | Orclev | aww, can only use in outland |
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| 16:05.19 | Corrodias | -now- i'll go sleep. [away] |
| 16:07.42 | Neuro_Medivh | Are you Prepared? |
| 16:09.14 | foxlit | The wiki's dead :( |
| 16:09.29 | foxlit | Hm, no, just painfully slow again. |
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| 16:14.17 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm trying to think, is there a function or feedback to tell me the target of a spell being cast? |
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| 16:23.46 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 16:24.20 | Cairenn|afk | wrong channel :p |
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| 16:32.46 | kaso | Anyone read the new TOS? they took out all the parts forbidding Powerleveling and Gold buying |
| 16:32.55 | kaso | the only thing you still cant do is buy items. |
| 16:33.17 | jaxdahl2 | TOS != TOU |
| 16:33.22 | jaxdahl2 | TOS is still dated november |
| 16:33.36 | kaso | ok, TOU |
| 16:33.39 | kaso | close enough |
| 16:34.04 | Cairenn|afk | did they now? |
| 16:34.17 | jaxdahl2 | i'd like to see a diff |
| 16:34.29 | kaso | sec |
| 16:35.05 | kaso | hmm, actually, i cant just pasty the code, i dont think they support strikethough :< |
| 16:35.09 | End | they took -out- the parts? |
| 16:35.12 | kaso | ill upload |
| 16:35.19 | End | interesting |
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| 16:39.09 | kaso | http://kasoo.net/touchanges.html |
| 16:39.13 | kaso | there you go |
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| 16:40.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | 15,1Cairenn0: 9Hallo! |
| 16:40.37 | TC_Working | i like what they took out of section 7 |
| 16:40.41 | TC_Working | the bastards |
| 16:40.50 | kaso | yah that is amusing |
| 16:40.51 | Osagasu | AUGH! COLORS! |
| 16:41.14 | kaso | pssh gross negligance, like thats a reason for reimbursement! |
| 16:41.18 | TC_Working | i wonder if all of the changes are vivendis doing |
| 16:41.33 | TC_Working | Vivendi's* |
| 16:41.34 | Cairenn | |FF|Im2good4u: turn off the font formatting, please? |
| 16:41.37 | TC_Working | ...something like that |
| 16:42.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | >.< it auto disables itzel whn the channel block colors :P |
| 16:42.22 | kaso | I think im gonna buy a few thousand gold while it isnt against ToU :> |
| 16:42.39 | TC_Working | prices might go up because of that |
| 16:43.07 | kaso | Who actually reads the ToU though? |
| 16:43.16 | TC_Working | ...we just did |
| 16:43.20 | TC_Working | and i noramly do |
| 16:43.25 | TC_Working | it's so interesting |
| 16:43.53 | kaso | Patch notes are interesting, terms just get boring and lawy |
| 16:44.24 | TC_Working | i like to find loopholes |
| 16:44.24 | TC_Working | it's a hobby |
| 16:44.24 | kaso | haah |
| 16:45.07 | foxlit | PushedTexture relaces NormalTexture rather than displaying on top of it? |
| 16:45.14 | foxlit | (replaces) |
| 16:46.09 | Cairenn | kaso: did you upload a difference file? |
| 16:46.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | so buying gold is allowed ? oO nice !! |
| 16:46.21 | kaso | http://kasoo.net/touchanges.html |
| 16:46.35 | kaso | thats just a copy paste of the forum post though not full differences |
| 16:46.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | foxlit yes i had the same problem |
| 16:46.47 | kaso | (the forum post i did) i should add |
| 16:47.37 | cladhaire | so they made it illegal to sell, not to purchase. |
| 16:47.41 | Cairenn | kaso: thanks |
| 16:49.20 | kaso | perhaps theyre going to start selling it themselves |
| 16:49.25 | kaso | (gold/items) |
| 16:49.45 | Cairenn | it's theoretically possible - look at Sony's Station Exchange |
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| 16:59.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | they would be something erfect for blizzard :P |
| 17:00.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | they are trying to make money out of everything |
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| 17:01.48 | Neuro_Medivh | they won't do it as long as WoW is so successful |
| 17:02.13 | Neuro_Medivh | they don't want to alienate their fan base |
| 17:03.53 | Cairenn | Neuro_Medivh: how will it alienate their fan base? it's blatantly obvious that there is a HUGE segment of the population that wants this and will continue to use the services. If they create their own, they make the money that is currently going to third party establishments. they just do the same thing SOE did. they make separate servers for RMT |
| 17:05.59 | Cairenn | ever heard the expression: "if you can't beat them, join them" ? |
| 17:06.00 | Neuro_Medivh | Cairenn, they'll look at it from a money standpoint, whether correct or not. They'll factor in the negative attitudes towards selling in-game items vs the profit margins (which are astronomically high), and then factor in the legal headaches (as soon as they recognize that in-game money has RL value, they can be sued for replacement of those items) |
| 17:07.23 | Neuro_Medivh | Also, keep this in mind: I have no problem with current gold farmers, because they are restrained by in-game mechanics, and thus it's harder for them to inflate the economy. Blizzard will just create the items out of thin air. |
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| 17:09.01 | Cairenn | as I said, if they are going to do this (which I have no idea if they are or not, it's pure supposition on our part at this point) they create entirely new servers that if you want to be involved in rmt, you have to do it on those servers |
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| 17:09.22 | Cairenn | it allows those that want it to be able to without breaking the rules, but doesn't mess up the economy on the rest of the servers |
| 17:09.33 | Cairenn | thus they get the best of both worlds |
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| 17:09.49 | Cairenn | plus, they put the kabosh on the third party establishments |
| 17:10.17 | Cairenn | why let all that money stream out to third parties when they could be scooping it up themselves |
| 17:10.24 | Neuro_Medivh | well, I honestly don't know how well it worked for SoE. I think we can safely say that the concept of the "Premium Server" was a complete bust. |
| 17:10.51 | Cairenn | the premium server and the rmt servers were two entirely different creatures |
| 17:10.58 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, I know |
| 17:11.05 | Cairenn | and the fact that they are still running the Station Exchange .... |
| 17:11.19 | Cairenn | one would have to presume that it's at the very least breaking even |
| 17:11.33 | Neuro_Medivh | I left EQ before rmt servers came online, so I really have no experience as to it's success |
| 17:11.44 | Cairenn | otherwise they'd have scrapped it, like they did the premium server |
| 17:11.50 | Neuro_Medivh | But keep this in mind also: rmt didn't come out till EQ was in massive decline |
| 17:12.00 | Cairenn | *nod* I know |
| 17:12.14 | Cairenn | interesting to supposition though :) |
| 17:12.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Helm's Deep in CANDY! :D http://missedmanners.wordpress.com/2007/01/12/what-i-did-over-christmas-vacation/ hehe |
| 17:12.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Honestly, I think the real road block is the potential legal issues. |
| 17:15.17 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, I would be okay with it if it was on separate servers |
| 17:16.56 | foxlit | Hm, curious |
| 17:17.00 | Mikma | cladhaire: yo |
| 17:17.05 | cladhaire | hi |
| 17:17.07 | foxlit | UI-Group-MainTankIcon, UI-Group-MainAssistIcon |
| 17:17.11 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 17:17.22 | Mikma | cladhaire: managed to fix dongle yet? |
| 17:17.37 | cladhaire | .. whats wrong with it? |
| 17:18.08 | Mikma | cladhaire: well it's just an embed problem actually, can't have 2 libs in different addons or i'll get an error |
| 17:18.15 | Cairenn | hi Gryphen |
| 17:18.17 | cladhaire | then you're doing something wrong |
| 17:18.29 | Mikma | that might be true also. i'll check :P |
| 17:18.33 | cladhaire | speak to the hundreds of users using PerfectRaid and Clique alongside each other. |
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| 17:19.12 | foxlit | PvPRank15, too :) |
| 17:19.21 | Gryphen | hi Cairenn |
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| 17:19.54 | Mikma | cladhaire: well, i get this when i use my addon and clique together: MiniBar/dongle.lua:812: you must call 'RegisterEvent' from a registered dongle. |
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| 17:20.03 | cladhaire | then you are using an old version sof dongle. |
| 17:20.06 | Mikma | cladhaire: if i disable clique i don't get the error |
| 17:20.13 | cladhaire | .. did you update Clique? |
| 17:20.17 | cladhaire | Dongle was in alpha three weeks ago. |
| 17:20.18 | Mikma | hmm, no :D |
| 17:20.29 | cladhaire | and it was made clear on all download pages that it needed to be updated for the alpha to beta transition. |
| 17:20.31 | Mikma | my clique is older than the dongle i have in minibar |
| 17:20.34 | cladhaire | i can't help you if you dont RTFM |
| 17:20.36 | cladhaire | =) |
| 17:20.58 | Mikma | but i haven't even looked clique pages so i can't RTFM xD |
| 17:21.10 | cladhaire | you could read the clique page |
| 17:21.16 | cladhaire | which has been updated about 20 times int he past two weeks =) |
| 17:21.32 | cladhaire | and if its not a favorite on wowi so you get email notifications, then you're dead to me |
| 17:21.34 | cladhaire | =) |
| 17:22.16 | Mikma | whooops |
| 17:22.16 | Mikma | ;) don't shoot me i don't use favorites :D |
| 17:22.16 | cladhaire | you should. |
| 17:22.31 | Cairenn | cladhaire's feeling feisty today! |
| 17:22.46 | Mikma | Cairenn: purr at him! that will soothe him |
| 17:23.00 | kaso | What does it mean when the realms' names are red in the realmlist |
| 17:23.01 | Cairenn | I always purr at cladhaire :) |
| 17:23.02 | cladhaire | hrm /cast Sooth Animal |
| 17:24.52 | kaso | GRR do they really have to unset use out of date addons on every bloody minipatch |
| 17:24.55 | kaso | its getting annoying |
| 17:26.42 | Mikma | Tseric: fix servers!!! |
| 17:26.54 | Tseric | Mikma: Nayon broke them imo! |
| 17:27.06 | Mikma | grrrr! that bastard |
| 17:27.06 | maia | Haha, clad, I just found a Bishop.lua in my SavedVariables. |
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| 17:27.32 | cladhaire | maia: HAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHHAH |
| 17:27.44 | cladhaire | maia: You can still get bishop at the old original ace svn |
| 17:29.39 | kaso | Anyone know if i can be lazy and just use my beta client rather than having to install from CD when TBC comes out |
| 17:30.05 | Gryphen | i would imagine you could |
| 17:30.10 | Mikma | clad|shower: umm, still got a problem |
| 17:30.19 | clad|shower | Mikma: okay |
| 17:30.20 | maia | kaso: it should be possible - as long as you'd replace the realmlist etc. |
| 17:30.34 | kaso | yay for lazyness! |
| 17:30.37 | Gryphen | should be just an activation code on your account to enable bc if like other games |
| 17:30.37 | Mikma | clad|shower: if i have clique and my addon enabled, my addon stops working :O |
| 17:30.45 | Mikma | clad|shower: but if i disable clique it works again |
| 17:30.56 | clad|shower | Mikma: Then your addon is doing somethign wrong. |
| 17:31.00 | clad|shower | and wasn't updated properly. |
| 17:31.15 | clad|shower | i also suspect you're getting an error somewhere, but that's pure speculation |
| 17:31.38 | clad|shower | not to mention, this is probably a better discussion for the dongle channel, not wowilounge |
| 17:31.49 | Mikma | dongle has a channel? |
| 17:31.55 | clad|shower | yes |
| 17:32.02 | clad|shower | as i speak to you from the shower. |
| 17:32.05 | maia | what's dongle btw? I guess I was offline for too long. |
| 17:32.24 | clad|shower | maia: Just a minimal addon framework, more along the lines of the original Ace.. only offer whats needed, and do it well. |
| 17:32.44 | maia | aah. shall I spread the rumor that Dongle = Ace3? |
| 17:32.49 | clad|shower | lol |
| 17:32.54 | clad|shower | sadly no, its all original code =) |
| 17:33.23 | clad|shower | plus I woudn't want the stigma of being an Ace3 |
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| 17:33.35 | clad|shower | since conceptually, they are quite different |
| 17:33.40 | maia | hmm |
| 17:35.12 | maia | all I currently care about is how long an international shipment at gamestop.com will take - I'm jealous seeing all the people online who already installed TBC, while I might have to wait a week. |
| 17:35.40 | kaso | no stores in your country? |
| 17:36.15 | maia | no stores with the us version, no |
| 17:36.18 | clad|shower | i just want notification of my shipment from ebgames.com |
| 17:38.10 | clad|shower | did anyone get an email from ebgames.com telling them their stuff had shipped? |
| 17:38.47 | Barbanus | I wish I would of ordered from blizz |
| 17:38.56 | Barbanus | people have gotten their copies already |
| 17:39.05 | clad|shower | i ordered mine in october |
| 17:39.05 | clad|shower | heh |
| 17:39.45 | Barbanus | Yea, I wish blizzard made it a soft street date. Since you cant put your key in until midnight anyways |
| 17:40.21 | clad|shower | that seals it |
| 17:40.26 | clad|shower | i'm getting my copy tonight |
| 17:40.32 | foxlit | mm? |
| 17:40.34 | clad|shower | i'll give my boyfriend the CE code |
| 17:40.39 | clad|shower | i was gonna wait for my pet |
| 17:40.41 | clad|shower | but its not worth it |
| 17:40.44 | Barbanus | But, I'm pretty sure its a hard street date :( |
| 17:41.37 | Beladona | I assume the portal still doesn't let you through even if you have BC installed? |
| 17:41.39 | Barbanus | hehe |
| 17:41.43 | Beladona | until tonight that is |
| 17:41.56 | clad|shower | well, that all dependos n your account |
| 17:41.58 | Barbanus | Beladona, you cant put your TBC code into your account until midnight |
| 17:41.59 | clad|shower | not what you have installed. |
| 17:42.04 | Beladona | you know what I mean |
| 17:42.08 | Beladona | I upgraded my account |
| 17:42.22 | Barbanus | Oh? How.... |
| 17:42.25 | Beladona | it l;et me |
| 17:42.28 | Beladona | let* |
| 17:42.37 | Beladona | no error, although maybe it didn't work |
| 17:42.39 | Beladona | didn't check yet |
| 17:42.42 | Barbanus | Reaaaaaaaaaally? |
| 17:43.01 | Beladona | lemme actually check my account before I say definitively |
| 17:43.09 | Barbanus | from what blues have said, you can install the expansion, but you weren't able to upgrade your account |
| 17:43.25 | Barbanus | and installing the expansion does nothing, you can still play as normal |
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| 17:43.32 | Barbanus | But well, maybe they were dead wrong, who knows. |
| 17:43.34 | Beladona | dunno |
| 17:44.37 | Beladona | ok I lied, i don't see it on my account |
| 17:44.40 | Beladona | =( |
| 17:45.02 | zenzelezz | oh yay... someone's downloaded some loot-link type addon and is busy spamming the tier 4/5 sets to the trade channel |
| 17:45.55 | foxlit | I thought server was supposed to choke you on items it has never seen? |
| 17:46.08 | Beladona | does it let you click? |
| 17:48.40 | zenzelezz | click and dress up |
| 17:49.32 | Beladona | wow |
| 17:50.18 | TC_Working | snicker @ http://www.inktank.com/AT/index.cfm?nav=266 |
| 17:51.03 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:56.37 | foxlit | http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/4302/rabqviewyg8.png |
| 17:57.00 | foxlit | Class/group selection control finished <3 |
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| 18:04.36 | Neuro_Medivh | I especially like the pic of Illidan on the inside, and the BE female on disk four |
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| 18:06.23 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeeh downloading patch a 4kb/sec |
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| 18:07.22 | Neuro_Medivh | I bet Hot Pockets stock goes up after tonight =) |
| 18:07.31 | Barbanus | foxlit, how does that mod differ from PallyPower? |
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| 18:10.33 | Barbanus | Hmmm, "You can install T.B.C. already and you will still be able to play. Just keep in mind that if you are logged in at midnight you will have to log out and back in again." |
| 18:10.53 | Barbanus | so it sounds like you may have upgraded your account too Beladona |
| 18:11.39 | Scre3m | is there some way to be notified via rss or email when a favorite on curse-gaming is updated? |
| 18:12.07 | Barbanus | I believe so... |
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| 18:17.33 | Barbanus | hmmm maybe not |
| 18:18.04 | Tain | http://cascadefailure.comicgenesis.com/ |
| 18:18.04 | maia | hmm. just checked my gamestop order status. the site shows the order number, the order date, the shipment method, the billing and shipping address - but not the status itself. weird. |
| 18:18.50 | Barbanus | ouch |
| 18:20.11 | TC_Working | i just got my amazon ship ETA, looks like the 20th for me |
| 18:20.36 | zenzelezz | 16th for me (from .co.uk) |
| 18:20.45 | Tain | What you're not going to the store at midnight tonight? |
| 18:21.02 | TC_Working | well these are the pari of CE i ordered, maybe the others will come sooner |
| 18:21.06 | TC_Working | pair* |
| 18:21.07 | clad|shower | maia: Same here |
| 18:21.24 | TC_Working | no, not going to the store at midnight Tain |
| 18:21.44 | maia | clad|shower: okay, so I guess the system is having troubles. |
| 18:21.50 | cladhaire | what system? |
| 18:21.51 | Barbanus | my gf is going to pre-order our 2 copies today, they still have some left (normal copies, not CE) |
| 18:22.01 | maia | the order status system |
| 18:22.06 | Barbanus | I may just drive down and pick em up at midnight though |
| 18:22.10 | Neuro_Medivh | Amazon is so bad about on-time delivery |
| 18:22.13 | TC_Working | i think they ran out of CE 2-3 days after they released them |
| 18:22.30 | zenzelezz | Neuro_Medivh: really? They've been on time for me |
| 18:22.33 | Tain | That is what I thought I read also. |
| 18:22.48 | Tain | That the CEs were all sold out quickly because they only made a (relatively) small amount. |
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| 18:23.15 | TC_Working | does blizz # them? |
| 18:24.29 | krka | yes. the number is the cd-key |
| 18:25.44 | Neuro_Medivh | Ok, the new cinematic is cool |
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| 18:26.03 | TC_Working | cute krka, cute |
| 18:28.04 | cladhaire | Tauren can't ride the BE mount can they =( |
| 18:29.04 | Neuro_Medivh | No |
| 18:29.55 | cladhaire | i hate the raptor =( |
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| 18:37.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | OMG.. they got otbe kiddinng... |
| 18:37.20 | cladhaire | ? |
| 18:37.33 | |FF|Im2good4u | "u have used up your prepaid acount" 1 day befoe BC >.< |
| 18:37.39 | cladhaire | zomg |
| 18:37.55 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 18:38.59 | krka | tough luck |
| 18:40.33 | sysrage | sucks to be you |
| 18:42.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | im gona write blizzard an angry note ! |
| 18:43.09 | TC_Working | hhhmmm...i wonder what he will say about BE's http://www.inktank.com/AT/index.cfm?nav=374 |
| 18:43.20 | sysrage | gonna write them a note cause you're a cheap bastard? |
| 18:43.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | no becase they done give me 1 month free |
| 18:44.21 | Cairenn | http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwLrgxtALWs |
| 18:45.09 | KarlThePagan | New Grouper Auto-LFG manager posted on curse! http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5896/grouper-lfg-browserauto-lfg/ |
| 18:45.15 | KarlThePagan | much more stable now! |
| 18:45.21 | TheStig | anyone know if its possible to have an addon select which area to fly to on the flight master's grid? |
| 18:45.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | Service Temporarily Unavailable <- cant even add a new card :( porm e ill bep laying BC next week |
| 18:45.25 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 18:45.25 | KarlThePagan | (and doesn't get wtfpwned by the blizzard lfg ui) |
| 18:45.31 | Qshadowp | i specifically let mine run out 2 days ago |
| 18:45.37 | Qshadowp | the servers arn't gonna be up for tbc anyways |
| 18:45.41 | TheStig | if so, i'd like to make an addon that you type something like /flight Grom'Gol then right click the wing rider and off you go |
| 18:45.50 | TheStig | or /flight Stormwind then off you go |
| 18:45.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | u cna stig |
| 18:45.59 | TheStig | that sounds good |
| 18:45.59 | Beladona | Qshadowp the servers are ready |
| 18:46.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | the flihtmap u see is an addon itzelf :P |
| 18:46.09 | Beladona | they are supposed to be up at midnight |
| 18:46.13 | TheStig | oh nice |
| 18:46.17 | Qshadowp | Beladona the servers can't handle the traffic they allready have |
| 18:46.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | well its more like default ui but it just calls a command asoon as u cloikc a button |
| 18:46.28 | Qshadowp | add extra continent, atleast twice the traffic |
| 18:46.30 | Qshadowp | and you get. downtime |
| 18:46.32 | TheStig | yeah i just want to be able to type /flight <destination> while i'm running for the FM |
| 18:46.33 | Qshadowp | and loads of it. |
| 18:46.37 | TheStig | then right click it |
| 18:46.44 | Beladona | I disagree, but no one will really be right until it happens I guess |
| 18:46.57 | TheStig | and off i go |
| 18:46.59 | TC_Working | Cairenn, those ppl have WAY WAY WAY to much time on their hands |
| 18:47.01 | |FF|Im2good4u | should be posable :p |
| 18:47.06 | Qshadowp | :P |
| 18:47.09 | TheStig | i think its a great addon concept |
| 18:47.12 | TheStig | i guess i have work to do |
| 18:47.51 | Cairenn | KarlThePagan: :p |
| 18:47.59 | Cairenn | KarlThePagan: upload to us too! |
| 18:48.05 | KarlThePagan | sure |
| 18:48.26 | KarlThePagan | I think I'll do wowi and worldofwar now ;) |
| 18:55.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | i need ot figure out how ot post on wowi lol i only use worldofwar |
| 18:55.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | well since i cant play wow atm ill tery to figute that out instead |
| 19:00.02 | Dezzimal | water costs too fucking much :( |
| 19:00.18 | Dezzimal | I go out questing to make some quick cash for my BC respec |
| 19:00.28 | Dezzimal | and I drank more than I made |
| 19:00.40 | zenzelezz | class? |
| 19:00.42 | TC_Working | [M]assively [M]uddled [O]rganizationally [R]ooted [P]erpetual [G]rievance |
| 19:00.42 | KarlThePagan | Cairenn, kk <3 wtb moar people testing ;) |
| 19:00.52 | Dezzimal | priest |
| 19:00.54 | Cairenn | KarlThePagan: already approved |
| 19:01.01 | KarlThePagan | swee |
| 19:01.03 | Dezzimal | normally I don't have to drink |
| 19:01.03 | KarlThePagan | +t |
| 19:01.06 | zenzelezz | Dezzimal: farming which mobs? |
| 19:01.12 | Dezzimal | winterfall mobs |
| 19:01.22 | KarlThePagan | any/all feedback is greatly appreciated |
| 19:01.25 | Dezzimal | the furlbolgs |
| 19:01.49 | Elkano | KarlThePagan, but there's still a lot you could do. eg fill the tablet with info so one doesn'T have to navigate through all menus |
| 19:01.51 | zenzelezz | haven't been farming much on my priest, but all the way to 57 I've been soloing, mostly by PW:S, SW:P, wand... mana just regenerated |
| 19:02.08 | KarlThePagan | Elkano, deffinately |
| 19:02.25 | foxlit | ~seen Barbanus |
| 19:02.52 | purl | barbanus is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 764 messages. Is idling for 50s, last said: 'Talented is Ace?'. |
| 19:02.52 | KarlThePagan | now that the core functionality is stable and doesn't get killed by the blizzard ui I'll be moving in that direction |
| 19:02.55 | Dezzimal | yeah its really fun farming as disc/holy |
| 19:03.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | u shuold get a mage to give free water :P |
| 19:03.01 | KarlThePagan | I should add stuff to the ace wiki page |
| 19:03.23 | Elkano | and you could add an option to the LFGBrowser to add you to the specific LFG object as a player/group |
| 19:03.45 | Cairenn | roflmao @ 12:09 timestamp in that link |
| 19:04.12 | Barbanus | whats up foxlit? |
| 19:04.29 | KarlThePagan | Elkano, yea you basically do that now fairly deep in the LFG priorities menu |
| 19:04.38 | zenzelezz | 12:09? |
| 19:04.45 | foxlit | Was just reading the backlogs |
| 19:05.06 | Barbanus | ahh |
| 19:05.40 | foxlit | (a) It works for everyone. (b) It does more things. |
| 19:05.52 | foxlit | [And, optionally (c) It looks better :P] |
| 19:06.19 | KarlThePagan | I guess I could make that part of my tablet functionality |
| 19:08.23 | TC_Working | i'm seing coffie cups and glass cups |
| 19:08.25 | TC_Working | seeing* |
| 19:09.12 | bleetah | mmm coffeeeeee |
| 19:09.28 | bleetah | 18 hours to go 'til BC in Eastern Australia |
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| 19:11.31 | Cide | 3h 49 min here in sweden apparently |
| 19:13.33 | foxlit | ~22 hours till I'll actually get a copy and be in front of a PC to play it |
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| 19:14.37 | Cairenn | here's a question, that I haven't seen an actual answer to ... does it go live at midnight [your local time] or midnight Pacific? |
| 19:14.51 | foxlit | Midnight whatever timezone servers are in? |
| 19:14.55 | JoshBorke | midnight ES |
| 19:15.00 | foxlit | I'd imagine europe woudl go live before US |
| 19:15.00 | JoshBorke | s/ES/EST/ |
| 19:15.04 | sylvanaar | why ES |
| 19:15.11 | sylvanaar | should be PS |
| 19:15.35 | sylvanaar | guess they are trying to be inclusive for the us |
| 19:16.30 | JoshBorke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=DB6F5D76D28F0290730B38012F92C106?topicId=65106559&sid=1 |
| 19:16.31 | Cairenn | the reason I'm wondering ... it can be bought in some stores as of midnight [local time], yet that isn't the same time as Blizz headquarters (obviously), so which are they doing? and if [local time] then EST doesn't make any more sense than PST |
| 19:16.45 | Cairenn | huh, okay |
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| 19:17.18 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 19:17.24 | Cairenn | welcome back ckknight |
| 19:17.34 | Garthnait | hello @ all |
| 19:17.39 | Bouvi | wb CK |
| 19:17.41 | Cairenn | hi Garthnait |
| 19:18.26 | Garthnait | is there a possibility that a function is only triggered when an other addon is loaded? |
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| 19:18.53 | bleetah | Cairenn: it makes even less sense in Australia. Servers go live 4pm Australian Eastern Time, yet we've got to stay awake until midnight... Blizz have a habit of hating Oceania on Tuesday nights |
| 19:18.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | `no |
| 19:19.07 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 19:19.15 | Cairenn | that's what I mean, the timing makes no sense at all |
| 19:19.29 | bleetah | I'm gunna try pull mod author rank at EB this arvo |
| 19:19.52 | Cairenn | it should either be midnight local or midnight pacific (since it's Blizz HQ), anything else is odd |
| 19:19.54 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 19:20.38 | Cairenn | bleetah: hah! you think joe shmuck that works at EB will know you from a hole in the ground, or give a flying #$@! that you are a mod author? |
| 19:20.47 | bleetah | really, tho, I won't mind much if the world servers crash lots |
| 19:20.48 | JoshBorke | well put cair :-D |
| 19:20.56 | jaxdahl2 | oh wow, netherdrake is 310% speed |
| 19:21.04 | bleetah | Cairenn: well, yes, they do... we had a funny convo the other day ;-) |
| 19:21.17 | zenzelezz | cats look funny when they sneeze |
| 19:21.20 | jaxdahl2 | epic flying mounts are 280% |
| 19:21.47 | Cairenn | I can walk into my local EB that I have my copies on order and tell them that I'm Cairenn from the *Interface.com sites and they wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about, or give a hoot even if they do |
| 19:23.06 | nymbia | i know i'm planning on strolling into walmart and yelling "I AM NYMBIA! GIVE ME ALL THE COPIES OF TBC" |
| 19:23.07 | Garthnait | is there a possibility that a function is only triggered when an other addon is loaded? |
| 19:23.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:24.23 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: try telling them you can make Decursive work again if they give you advance copies |
| 19:24.33 | Cairenn | ROFL! |
| 19:25.25 | bleetah | Cairenn: there's advantages to being in a small town (get to know the staff) and there's disadvantages (crappy time of release) |
| 19:25.33 | Cairenn | heh |
| 19:26.22 | Cairenn | mind you, if the snow doesn't stop here soon, I won't be able to go to pick up my copy anyway |
| 19:27.02 | TC_Working | http://www.nihilum-gaming.co.uk/keldead.jpg |
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| 19:27.24 | bleetah | hah, gunna be about 90F here today |
| 19:27.36 | jaxdahl2 | TC_Working, is that from the necromanced thread? |
| 19:27.48 | TC_Working | i dunno |
| 19:27.56 | TC_Working | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20273314&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 19:27.58 | jaxdahl2 | why did you post old news then? |
| 19:27.59 | TC_Working | is where it's from |
| 19:28.04 | jaxdahl2 | read the last post |
| 19:28.12 | TC_Working | incase ppl havent seen it |
| 19:28.17 | TC_Working | not everyone does |
| 19:28.28 | jaxdahl2 | this is, what, 4 months old? |
| 19:28.46 | TC_Working | didnt notice that |
| 19:29.02 | TC_Working | bluetrakcer doesent show stuff like that easly |
| 19:29.07 | TC_Working | bluetracker* |
| 19:29.27 | jaxdahl2 | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/116332041.htm hot |
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| 19:30.15 | bleetah | theres a bug in the forums |
| 19:30.48 | bleetah | seems to be if a locked thread gets to the 'end' of a forum (ie, becomes the very last thread), it becomes unlocked. or so it was happening the other day. |
| 19:31.56 | bleetah | I'm guessing that happens so the system can delete it when a new post is popped in the head... but some crafty people are catching them |
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| 19:45.26 | TC_Working | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6859750 listen |
| 19:45.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | whee i got my first addon posted on wow interface :P |
| 19:46.48 | zenzelezz | grats |
| 19:52.21 | cladhaire | So, whats with the new "I can see through stealth" over the head marker? |
| 19:52.57 | zenzelezz | guess they thought you shouldn't be caught by surprise |
| 19:53.03 | foxlit | It's awesome :) |
| 19:53.05 | zenzelezz | cause that would like... be unfair! And stuffs... |
| 19:53.08 | cladhaire | its disconcerting, but I like it = |
| 19:53.26 | foxlit | Seems to only work on NPCs |
| 19:53.28 | zenzelezz | I really disagree with it; unless as some ability/talent |
| 19:53.48 | foxlit | Stealth |
| 19:54.04 | zenzelezz | I mean seeing icons of those that can still see you |
| 19:54.25 | cladhaire | its so cool =) |
| 19:54.33 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: That's not what we're talking about |
| 19:54.35 | foxlit | Part of your ability to stealth :) |
| 19:54.40 | cladhaire | its when an NPC has the "see through stealth" skill |
| 19:54.47 | cladhaire | nhot when someone can see you |
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| 19:55.41 | zenzelezz | still sounds the same as what I originally thought; but I don't play a stealth class, so can't say |
| 19:55.58 | cladhaire | Well, its on.. like 3% of the game's NPCs.. if that. |
| 19:56.05 | cladhaire | like the commanders in AV |
| 19:56.12 | zenzelezz | I just feel it doesn't make sense |
| 19:56.13 | cladhaire | or Onyxia's warders |
| 19:56.21 | zenzelezz | personal opinion, nothing more |
| 19:56.25 | JoshBorke | i don't think it is game breaking |
| 19:56.27 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 19:56.30 | cladhaire | i thinki its handy |
| 19:56.33 | zenzelezz | didn't say it's game breaking |
| 19:56.33 | cladhaire | but it feels weird |
| 19:56.34 | JoshBorke | i think more importantly that druids should be nerfed |
| 19:56.36 | zenzelezz | of course it's handy |
| 19:56.41 | cladhaire | Josh_Borke: nerf pallies. |
| 19:56.44 | JoshBorke | specifically cladhaire |
| 19:57.47 | zenzelezz | but to clarify, I just feel that if stealth classes gets such a warning icon, I want one for mobs that are immune to my stuns |
| 19:57.49 | zenzelezz | ;-p |
| 19:58.16 | Garthnait | i'm asking again: is there a possibility that a function is only triggered when an other addon is loaded? |
| 19:58.32 | zenzelezz | I still don't understand exactly what you're asking |
| 19:58.43 | Wing87 | Nerf Warlocks then palys then hunters then druids!!!! |
| 19:58.46 | zenzelezz | do you want a function to be run when a specific addon is loaded, or are you asking if it's possible? |
| 19:59.07 | JoshBorke | Garthnait: look up the function IsAddonLoaded |
| 19:59.18 | Garthnait | hmm, i have a function that gives out text in SCT:Message and i only wish to do this if SCT is loaded |
| 19:59.36 | zenzelezz | then it sounds like JoshBorke had the solution |
| 19:59.37 | JoshBorke | you could just do: if (SCT and SCT.Message) then ... end |
| 19:59.58 | JoshBorke | for specific cases, but in general, IsAddonLoaded should work |
| 20:00.18 | foxlit | ADDON_LOADED fires when an addon is loaded? |
| 20:00.24 | foxlit | arg1 is the name, isn't it? |
| 20:00.31 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 20:05.34 | Garthnait | argh, whats wrong with wowwiki? |
| 20:06.24 | foxlit | IT WAS NOT PREPARED. |
| 20:06.52 | bleetah | Garthnait: it's dedded |
| 20:07.48 | foxlit | I can't anchor stuff to fontstrings? |
| 20:07.51 | Garthnait | so, is this correct? http://wowi.pastey.net/5132 |
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| 20:09.14 | foxlit | Ah, nevermind. I messed up the vertical offsets again |
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| 20:11.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | dahm why isnt my 2nd addon getting violidated ;p |
| 20:11.43 | foxlit | google for "Tek Jensen" site:wikipedia.org: 0 results :/ |
| 20:11.43 | Jens | Grr... |
| 20:12.02 | foxlit | violidated mast be some merge of violated and validated? :) |
| 20:12.46 | zenzelezz | no, it's a dated violin |
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| 20:13.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | Item Link Recolor adds more color to chat messages that got either a itemlink or a amount of money in it |
| 20:13.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | Item links get an extra (..) showing the minium required level for the item. |
| 20:13.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | So you can imedatly see if its to high or way to low for you. |
| 20:13.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | ahhhh stoopid clipbaord :x |
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| 20:36.16 | Cairenn | off-topic: anyone able to recommend a good web email thingy? I need something that will allow me to send and receive from multiple existing email addresses/accounts |
| 20:36.36 | TC_Working | like outlook? |
| 20:36.43 | Cairenn | aye, except webased |
| 20:36.49 | cladhaire | gmail |
| 20:36.56 | TC_Working | blorb @ webased |
| 20:36.59 | cladhaire | you can send from any of your To addresses |
| 20:37.03 | cladhaire | and its the best out there. |
| 20:37.11 | zenzelezz | gmail can check other accounts? |
| 20:37.16 | TC_Working | but yes, i agree with clad |
| 20:37.16 | Cairenn | gmail lets you use other addresses? I figured it required that your to/from was @gmail |
| 20:37.28 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Nope. |
| 20:37.30 | Cairenn | I was looking at it, but it doesn't seem to really answer that |
| 20:37.32 | cladhaire | you can register any email address with it |
| 20:37.36 | cladhaire | aye |
| 20:37.41 | cladhaire | trust me, just do it =) |
| 20:37.57 | Cairenn | so I can use my @eqinterface @wowinterface etc? |
| 20:38.08 | Cairenn | to both send and receive? |
| 20:38.09 | TC_Working | -When I receive a message sent to one of my addresses: |
| 20:38.09 | TC_Working | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.09 | TC_Working | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.21 | TC_Working | thats whats gmail showes |
| 20:38.25 | Cairenn | really |
| 20:38.29 | Cairenn | hmmm |
| 20:38.35 | End | yeah, I heard gmail just allowed you to check pop mail from other people, and you've always been able to set your From: |
| 20:38.46 | cladhaire | Cairenn: I send and receive from all of those addresses |
| 20:38.57 | zenzelezz | interesting... never knew that |
| 20:39.05 | cladhaire | along with @artificialtruth.com @brokendreams.net @gammatester.com @relevanceguild.com @silent-transcendecne.net etc. |
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| 20:39.14 | TC_Working | it doesnt work if you dont have POP for incoming though, i think |
| 20:39.31 | cladhaire | TC_Working: Thats not a gmail thing |
| 20:39.39 | TC_Working | no, it's the others |
| 20:39.43 | cladhaire | obviously, if you dont set your email to forward to gmail, it won't get there. |
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| 20:40.14 | TC_Working | i still prefer outlook though |
| 20:40.17 | zenzelezz | oh, so it doesn't just download them for you from your POP3 account? |
| 20:40.24 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: it can |
| 20:40.32 | cladhaire | what does outlook offer over gmail? |
| 20:40.40 | cladhaire | cause that makes me *boggle* |
| 20:41.08 | zenzelezz | still think I'll use Thunderbird for my POP, but nice to know Gmail can handle it as well |
| 20:42.33 | Cide | what the hell. |
| 20:42.45 | Cairenn | I'm currently using Incredimail as my email client (leave me alone, I *like* it, it's fun), but it seems to be causing me some problems with the fact that I have multiple multiple addresses (like, 11 for sure, possibly a couple I've forgotten) |
| 20:43.12 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Gmail wont' have any issues, I can work with you any time you'd like |
| 20:43.18 | TC_Working | i can access my mail w/o being online |
| 20:43.57 | cladhaire | TC_Working: And I can access my mail from anywhere.. thats more important to me. |
| 20:43.57 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 20:43.57 | cladhaire | different strokes and everything., |
| 20:43.57 | TC_Working | so can i |
| 20:43.58 | bleetah | meh, imap servers and a bunch of perl scripts ftw! ;-) |
| 20:44.02 | TC_Working | my phone has it |
| 20:44.09 | TC_Working | as well as my desktop |
| 20:44.10 | TC_Working | and they sync |
| 20:44.14 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 20:44.19 | cladhaire | i hate outlook |
| 20:44.36 | TC_Working | like you said, to each their own |
| 20:44.58 | bleetah | pine ftw! |
| 20:45.07 | End | screw pine! |
| 20:45.15 | End | mail(1) for the win! |
| 20:45.16 | Cairenn | this is somewhat concerning though: http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/ |
| 20:45.38 | zenzelezz | mutt |
| 20:46.01 | bleetah | screw mail! less /var/mail/$USER |
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| 20:46.32 | bleetah | or for the really adventurous, hexedit /var/mail/$USER |
| 20:49.04 | TC_Working | well whatever that page may say, gmail's service is still the best...even if their policy isnt |
| 20:49.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the sound channels may be broken :[ |
| 20:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause last patch i could get nice sounding audio from maxed out sound channels |
| 20:50.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | now, none :| |
| 20:50.08 | Xuerian | Anyway, if you want to go all tinfoil on google's ass, mightaswell consider all the other bounces other mail goes through. |
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| 20:50.32 | MatthewS | wowi down on purpose for tbc? |
| 20:50.33 | zenzelezz | as long as you use e-mail, you'll have to put your trust in someone |
| 20:50.44 | Cairenn | wowi not down at all, I just finished approving a mod |
| 20:51.04 | bleetah | wowwiki's dead |
| 20:51.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO did u aprive Silvanas's mods ? |
| 20:51.16 | zenzelezz | wowwiki is a different story |
| 20:51.16 | MatthewS | i get conn refuse |
| 20:51.30 | zenzelezz | WoWI loads fine for me |
| 20:51.44 | MatthewS | oh i meant wowwiki |
| 20:51.46 | bleetah | wowinterface loads here |
| 20:52.33 | Cairenn | |FF|Im2good4u: this is your friendly weekly reminder to work on your spelling, since it's a known fact that you can do better than that when you take the time to bother instead of just being lazy and hoping people will be willing to try to decipher what you are saying |
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| 20:53.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol oke remind me again next week :P i never take the time for writing never unless im reminded todo so |
| 20:53.48 | TC_Working | maybe if the reminder stops being friendly it will get better.... |
| 20:53.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | witch is realy boring typing like this >.< |
| 20:54.21 | zenzelezz | if you typo too much, others might find it easier to just ignore it entirely |
| 20:54.31 | Cide | those two lines contained at least 4 spelling errors alone |
| 20:54.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | that would be stoopid i mean u wont kick good person just for his spelling ? |
| 20:54.46 | Cide | I would |
| 20:54.49 | TC_Working | who said anything about kicking? |
| 20:54.51 | Cairenn | |FF|Im2good4u: it is a courtesy you are extending to the people around you to try to make your writing legible, otherwise why should they offer any assistance when they know that you aren't even trying |
| 20:54.51 | Cide | fortunately I'm not an operator |
| 20:55.02 | TC_Working | bad Cide, bad |
| 20:55.20 | Cairenn | see, the thing is, we all know that you can do better, you've proven it and confirmed it multiple times |
| 20:55.26 | Cide | TC_Working: not really |
| 20:55.29 | Mairelon | Certainly folks who might help you with things won't bother to read that sort of thing. |
| 20:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 20:55.44 | TC_Working | well i tend to agree with you, but that is way beside the point |
| 20:56.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | that creepy gmail site has all the telltale signs of being a crazy tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy site |
| 20:56.19 | Cide | it's a pet peeve of mine |
| 20:56.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | except it's about email and not aliens |
| 20:56.34 | Cairenn | if it was a case that your spelling was actually that poor because of your education or if it was that English isn't your first language, then people are more inclined to be accommodating, but when it's known fact that it is pure laziness on your part .... |
| 20:57.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | im so used to writing im accepted on most channels / forum so when i talk here i dont think about writing slow |
| 20:57.12 | bleetah | Cide: If I'm reading your posts correctly, you're suggesting Swatter (the debug tool) from Auctioneer is causing CTMod to fault out? |
| 20:57.19 | Cide | bleetah: no |
| 20:57.26 | Cide | I'm suggesting users shouldn't use dev tools to report bugs |
| 20:57.59 | Cide | the ADDON_ACTION_FORBIDDEN (or is it blocked? the transparent one anyway) is an entirely harmless event 99% of the time |
| 20:57.59 | bleetah | hmm, well, it's intended as an end user tool to provide useful info to any dev. |
| 20:58.27 | TC_Working | i can type at 5 wpm and still get it wrong |
| 20:58.28 | Cide | well telling me that ctra gives transparent debug messages doesn't help me at all |
| 20:58.45 | Cide | I don't mind people reporting it, but saying that it's a bug makes me angry |
| 20:58.48 | MatthewS | as a side point, if the wowwiki people need any spare capacity for upcoming releases my employers would be willing to provide some |
| 20:58.51 | Mairelon | agreed cide - the only way to get ActionBarButton's to change appearance correctly also causes ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED messages |
| 20:59.33 | bleetah | Cide: hmm, true. Might talk to norgs about that one. We might add a new field in 'May not be worth reporting'... dunno how it'd actually work, tho. We'll see how we go ;-) |
| 20:59.35 | Mairelon | they're "mostly" harmless though, but can show up very freqeuntly in combat |
| 20:59.48 | Cide | bleetah: not really an issue with swatter though |
| 20:59.53 | Cide | more of an end user issue |
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| 21:00.14 | bleetah | Cide: I appreciate that, I'll see if there's anyway we can limit your stress caused by it ;-) |
| 21:00.16 | nevcairiel | Is there a way to get to textures defined in XML which are not named? |
| 21:00.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67726788&sid=1 |
| 21:00.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 21:00.36 | Cide | nevcairiel: :GetRegions() returns a list of them |
| 21:00.41 | nevcairiel | ah thanks |
| 21:00.54 | nevcairiel | btw, someone bring wowwiki back pls :) |
| 21:01.11 | Xuerian | It's not the users that frustrated me when I was dealing with accidental blizzard taints, but blizzard because they didn't fix it in the first place... Now if a end user doesn't bother to read the last 20-some-odd-thousand reports of the issue, well that was annoying. |
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| 21:03.00 | Cide | I kind of agree with you but I have to disagree with the 'blizzard is lazy at fixing stuff' part |
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| 21:04.11 | bleetah | Cide: the other thing I was gunna ask you about, was the tooltip foo between your buffmod and our enhtooltip... I got this last night, and just read the report on the wowi forum that's going for CT2 bugs .... a screenie http://www.flyleaf.co.nz/mywowstuff/tooltip-error.jpg I'm completely unfamiliar with EnhTooltip code, but happy to help out if I can. I'm sure norgs or MP would, too. |
| 21:04.35 | Cide | interesting |
| 21:05.02 | Elkano | is enhtooltip also bugging with EBB? |
| 21:05.14 | bleetah | EBB? |
| 21:05.43 | TC_Working | his buff abr |
| 21:05.52 | TC_Working | s/abr/bar/ |
| 21:06.05 | bleetah | k, lemme check |
| 21:07.01 | Cide | bleetah: /shrug |
| 21:07.02 | Cide | the code looks innocent |
| 21:07.02 | Cide | GameTooltip:SetOwner(self, "ANCHOR_CURSOR"); |
| 21:07.02 | Cide | if ( parent.buffObject.type == "ITEM" ) then GameTooltip:SetInventoryItem("player", parent:GetID()); |
| 21:07.02 | Cide | else GameTooltip:SetPlayerBuff(parent:GetID()); end |
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| 21:09.53 | bleetah | hmm, my [Primitive Walking Stick] has rockbiter on it. Tooltip displays properly in the character frame. EnhTooltip missing on the CT bars, and messed up in the CT Buff |
| 21:09.58 | Mikord | didn't they just make a change to tooltip anchoring and is why they changed the .toc to 20003? |
| 21:11.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | well me hidden scanning tooltip in itemlinkrecolor broke after the 2.0.3 patch since i could nolonger use self as owner |
| 21:11.44 | Mikord | ok that's what it was. No self as owner. |
| 21:11.51 | Cide | "self" is just a variable |
| 21:12.02 | Cide | it's pointing to my frame |
| 21:12.27 | Cide | what's not allowed now is GameTooltip:SetOwner(GameTooltip, ...) |
| 21:12.35 | Mikord | right. I was just saying there was something to do with tooltips |
| 21:13.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah yes indeed cide whem i used self on my tooltip i used it in its own script handlers :P |
| 21:14.30 | bleetah | Cide: I'm grabbing a coffee, back soon. |
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| 21:15.58 | Neuro_Medivh | less than 8 hours |
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| 21:17.47 | bleetah | over 15 hours |
| 21:18.13 | Cide | less than 2 hours |
| 21:18.39 | jaxdahl2 | let us know how the EU switch flip goes |
| 21:18.51 | jaxdahl2 | anyone entered their upgrade codes yet? |
| 21:19.41 | Mikk | couple peeps in my guild |
| 21:19.47 | Mikk | game store owners mostly :> |
| 21:20.01 | jaxdahl2 | ar ethey able to roll new races? |
| 21:20.04 | Mikk | nope |
| 21:20.05 | jaxdahl2 | or access new areas |
| 21:20.07 | jaxdahl2 | ok |
| 21:20.11 | Mikk | servers won't accept the new codes until midnight |
| 21:20.13 | Mikk | or well |
| 21:20.24 | Mikk | it accepts them but tells them nothing will happen until midnight |
| 21:20.36 | jaxdahl2 | well the upgrade page is at http://upgrade.wow-europe.com |
| 21:20.37 | jaxdahl2 | ok |
| 21:20.42 | jaxdahl2 | they may need to log out then back in |
| 21:20.49 | jaxdahl2 | when the time comes |
| 21:22.34 | Wing87 | does any one know a workaround this bug? -> http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=115611893&sid=1 |
| 21:24.17 | nevcairiel | tried other buffs? |
| 21:24.22 | foxlit | That's a feature. |
| 21:25.01 | Wing87 | what do you mean with other buffs? |
| 21:25.05 | nymbia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/iconinfo.html?amp;sid=1 |
| 21:26.03 | Beladona | ooh |
| 21:26.03 | nevcairiel | like change it to Thorns |
| 21:26.04 | Beladona | https://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/ |
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| 21:26.18 | TuX_BuBling | hey there |
| 21:26.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | can i get some people to test this bug for me? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67796819&postId=676407096&sid=1#0 |
| 21:26.25 | TuX_BuBling | someone has TBC here? |
| 21:26.42 | Wing87 | well thorns i guess works as far as i know all other buffs work its just gift of the wild |
| 21:27.49 | TuX_BuBling | TBC has a key to validate isn't it? |
| 21:28.07 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:28.13 | Beladona | to activate it on your account, yeah |
| 21:28.32 | TuX_BuBling | ok |
| 21:29.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | do you need a BC CD key to INSTALL bc? i don't think i required one for WoW itself |
| 21:29.55 | Malivil | no |
| 21:29.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i ask because i don't feel like taking the time to install AFTER i upgrade my account, i'd like it to be ready to play ASAP :p |
| 21:30.02 | Malivil | but you can't log in without having a BC accuont |
| 21:30.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | right |
| 21:30.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got a friend with the game, his order came in early |
| 21:30.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll use his CDs to install it today, then upgrade my account tomorrow when i get mine |
| 21:30.56 | zenzelezz | you're going to ninja his key, aren't you |
| 21:31.02 | Malivil | lol |
| 21:31.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | nahh then i wouldn't be able to play wow with him |
| 21:31.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 21:31.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | well bc at least |
| 21:38.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~sotn |
| 21:38.39 | purl | What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk! Have at you! http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7E_in_uZnc |
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| 21:48.27 | jaxdahl2 | can anyone suggest cool mods to track stats/leveling from 60-70? |
| 21:48.38 | jaxdahl2 | i'd like to see how much time i spend in zones, instances, etc |
| 21:48.45 | jaxdahl2 | how many herbs i picked in each level |
| 21:48.51 | jaxdahl2 | and how many mobs i kill |
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| 21:49.17 | zenzelezz | sounds like you'll need a watch and a stack of paper ;) |
| 21:49.25 | zenzelezz | don't know, might be some mod that tracks such things |
| 21:51.32 | foxlit | Hah. |
| 21:51.41 | foxlit | Terokkar Forest <BC>. Level Range: 32-65 |
| 21:51.50 | foxlit | That's one heck of a forest they've got there. |
| 21:52.05 | Osagasu | Oh yteag. |
| 21:52.37 | zenzelezz | that's either a funky typo or a pretty peculiar word :-) |
| 21:52.48 | Osagasu | A little of both. |
| 21:53.37 | Neuro_Medivh | 62-65 obviously |
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| 21:56.43 | foxlit | Does blizzard have a numberbox template somewhere? |
| 21:56.50 | foxlit | (Number display and plusminus tags) |
| 21:57.58 | zenzelezz | something like the stack split window? |
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| 21:59.23 | foxlit | Hm, yes. |
| 21:59.33 | foxlit | Something smaller, though |
| 22:00.15 | bleetah | you'd like the incerement/decrement buttons stacked vertically, i bet... I don't think there is |
| 22:02.49 | foxlit | Inventing your own controls = costly :( |
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| 22:06.32 | bleetah | heh, CE will be available from my local EB 'to the person who dresses up the best in a Warcraft Costume'... |
| 22:06.54 | zenzelezz | too much trouble |
| 22:07.36 | zenzelezz | go get dirty, put on some pants, and woosh! You're hogger |
| 22:07.36 | zenzelezz | *Hogger |
| 22:07.44 | TC_Working | your local EB should be shot |
| 22:07.50 | bleetah | ouc, tho, $100AUD for the CE... what's the $USD price (as a matter of interest)? |
| 22:08.24 | Orclev | what's CE? |
| 22:08.29 | Orclev | oh |
| 22:08.31 | Orclev | nvmd |
| 22:08.31 | zenzelezz | collector's edition |
| 22:08.34 | Mikma | new servers are open |
| 22:08.52 | TC_Working | $60 US for the CE |
| 22:08.54 | Orclev | no idea what the collectors edition is, I just got the regular one |
| 22:09.19 | kaiden | TC_Sleeping, 69.99 |
| 22:09.33 | kaiden | i bought 4 copies of it :/ |
| 22:09.37 | TC_Working | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.37 | TC_Working | The following items have been shipped to you by Amazon.com: |
| 22:09.37 | TC_Working | --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 22:09.37 | TC_Working | Qty Item Price Shipped Subtotal |
| 22:09.37 | TC_Working | --------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 22:09.39 | TC_Working | Amazon.com items (Sold by Amazon.com, LLC): |
| 22:09.41 | TC_Working | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.42 | bleetah | $100AUD = $78USD |
| 22:09.43 | TC_Working | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.45 | TC_Working | Shipped via USPS (estimated arrival date: 20-January-2007). |
| 22:09.45 | kaiden | oh RIP OFF! |
| 22:09.48 | kaiden | screw amazing |
| 22:09.50 | kaiden | erm amazon |
| 22:10.00 | TC_Working | i got 2 of them |
| 22:10.01 | kaiden | i bought mine from stupid ebgames |
| 22:10.04 | kaiden | and they charged me 69.99 each |
| 22:10.21 | zenzelezz | you realize you could've just copied that one line and the point would still have went through? |
| 22:10.35 | zenzelezz | *have gone... what's up with my grammar |
| 22:11.30 | TC_Working | ya, but anyone can write Amazon $59.99 |
| 22:11.39 | TC_Working | looks better with all the trimings |
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| 22:12.00 | zenzelezz | not with that many lines :-p |
| 22:12.19 | Barbanus | "Shipped via 'Your Car' (estimated arrival date: as soon as you pull up in your driveway after picking it up at midnight because you preordered)" |
| 22:12.30 | TC_Working | blorb |
| 22:14.20 | Barbanus | GOD DAMMIT |
| 22:14.24 | Barbanus | My plans FOILED! |
| 22:14.33 | Barbanus | We have a snow warning again :( |
| 22:14.49 | sylvanaar | yeah and dont forget the line at the store |
| 22:14.52 | Barbanus | I have to drive 45 mins south to pick it up, I dont know if I want to drive in the snow at midnight |
| 22:17.01 | foxlit | FontString:GetTextWidth("text"); -- right? |
| 22:18.52 | foxlit | [Correct answer: FontString:SetText("test"); FontString:GetStringWidth()] |
| 22:19.19 | kaiden | TC_Working, so i contacted Gamestop where i got my copy and they are like sorry we can't do price matching against Frys, Costco, Amazon, or Fred Myer, too bad |
| 22:19.22 | kaiden | :P |
| 22:19.24 | JoshBorke | Andalia: ping |
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| 22:29.31 | JoshBorke | ~news |
| 22:30.04 | JoshBorke | ~news |
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| 22:31.13 | Xolan | can I use "<" as text in a fontstring? |
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| 22:33.50 | Xolan | optionally what's the espace char? |
| 22:33.56 | Xolan | *escape |
| 22:34.33 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 22:34.38 | foxlit | \ |
| 22:34.47 | Xolan | k cheers :) |
| 22:34.58 | Xolan | seen people mentioning % and so aswell |
| 22:35.02 | foxlit | Careful with strings inside <Scripts> blocks, they shouldn't contain < or your XML is doomed. |
| 22:35.09 | foxlit | % is for lua's patterns. |
| 22:35.14 | ben | Depends on what you are escaping. % is for escaping metacharacters in patterns. |
| 22:35.25 | ben | \ is for the magical characters that get replaced by the string parser, like \n. |
| 22:35.34 | ben | | is for formatting codes, I suppose. |
| 22:35.38 | Xolan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.43 | foxlit | No need. |
| 22:53.25 | foxlit | XML understands implicit strings, LUA does not consider < a special character. |
| 22:53.25 | ben | Would < apply there? |
| 22:53.33 | ben | Considering you would probably have to use " if you wanted to put a " in that string. |
| 22:53.42 | foxlit | Did you test "? |
| 22:53.58 | Xolan | if it takes html entities that would be good |
| 22:54.03 | Xolan | can try |
| 22:54.29 | ben | foxlit: Nope. xml is for faggots >:( |
| 22:54.48 | Xolan | not for simple mods like this :) |
| 22:55.14 | foxlit | Oh, XML is rather useful :) |
| 22:55.53 | bleetah | bundles of wood? or basoons? |
| 22:56.01 | Xolan | "e; works :) |
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| 22:56.31 | Xolan | so I guess < works too |
| 22:56.32 | bleetah | *bassoons |
| 22:56.42 | jaxdahl2 | someone on the forums claims using the EU CDs works on an US client |
| 22:56.59 | zenzelezz | there's a lot of gryphons flying to Blasted Lands at the moment :-o |
| 22:57.01 | foxlit | Meh, park in darnassus. |
| 22:57.23 | foxlit | [that is, unless you have a BC copy :)] |
| 22:57.26 | jaxdahl2 | what's in darnassus? |
| 22:57.37 | foxlit | Kalimdor world server is in darnassus :) |
| 22:57.47 | ben | jaxdahl2: Someone on the IRC torrented enUS-TBC and installed it on enGB-WoW. |
| 22:58.00 | jaxdahl2 | ok and how do you propose to get to outland, foxlit? |
| 22:58.35 | jaxdahl2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.54 | ben | Or a mage to portal you |
| 22:59.01 | Xolan | < didn't work :\ |
| 22:59.01 | foxlit | My point is, I don't have access to a copy of BC right now. |
| 22:59.01 | jaxdahl2 | the mage would have to be willing to come back to azeroth after getting to shattrah |
| 22:59.01 | Xolan | nor \< |
| 22:59.02 | foxlit | Should EK crash, I'd be able to login with chars parked in Kalimdor. |
| 22:59.15 | foxlit | If EK doesn't crash, catch a ship and proceed as usual. |
| 22:59.26 | jaxdahl2 | ben, you mean torrented enGB-TBC and installe dit on enUS-WOW? |
| 22:59.28 | JoshBorke | what lvl is shattrah portal? |
| 22:59.32 | foxlit | I'd suggest 70 |
| 22:59.33 | ben | jaxdahl2: No. |
| 22:59.34 | jaxdahl2 | my first guess is 40 |
| 22:59.35 | zenzelezz | man, the portal is way lagged |
| 23:10.53 | jaxdahl2 | second guess is 58 |
| 23:10.53 | ben | I think the internet said 60. |
| 23:10.53 | jaxdahl2 | 3rd guess is 60 |
| 23:10.53 | bleetah | i'm still amazed blizz let a townname in that's gunna be abbreviated to 'shat' |
| 23:10.53 | jaxdahl2 | 4th guess is 70 |
| 23:10.53 | ben | Though that might be because no one has a 58 mage really |
| 23:10.54 | foxlit | jaxdahl: Darnassus port is 50 |
| 23:10.54 | bleetah | i wonder if they're adjusting their profanity filter, somehow |
| 23:10.54 | foxlit | And you can't be in the outland until you're 58 |
| 23:10.54 | jaxdahl2 | ok first guess is 50 |
| 23:10.54 | jaxdahl2 | ben: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67816914&sid=1 |
| 23:10.54 | MentalPower | foxlit: actually thats not true |
| 23:10.55 | MentalPower | you can be in outland as a lvl 1 even |
| 23:10.55 | MentalPower | but you can't go thru the portal till 58 |
| 23:10.55 | jaxdahl2 | summoned? |
| 23:10.55 | zenzelezz | "The Burning Crusade launch is imminent, and players who plan to upgrade to the expansion will need to relog in at or after 12:00 AM CET in order for your account to be acknowledged" |
| 23:10.56 | MentalPower | summons, portals |
| 23:10.56 | bleetah | 15 hours... /sigh |
| 23:10.56 | foxlit | Hm, question |
| 23:10.56 | Xuerian | Are there any invasion sort of things happening pre-opening? |
| 23:10.57 | foxlit | If I made a metatable to on-the-fly merge data from two tables, and redirect writes to one, would that be sort of expensive? |
| 23:10.57 | jaxdahl2 | there already were over the weekend, Xuerian |
| 23:10.57 | bleetah | Xuerian: it's been happening all week |
| 23:10.57 | jaxdahl2 | Highlord Kruul |
| 23:10.57 | Xuerian | I haven't been on all week >.> |
| 23:10.58 | bleetah | Kruul's been going around killing lots, one shotting faction bosses 'n stuff |
| 23:10.58 | Xuerian | Shame I missed the fun then. |
| 23:10.58 | bleetah | best world event they've ever had... keep an eye/ear out for him on your realm. apparently there's no big end of event happening, just he'll stop |
| 23:10.58 | ben | http://thottbot.com/?sp=35717 seems to imply that the Portal to Shattrah is a level 65 spell. |
| 23:11.00 | MentalPower | aye it is |
| 23:11.00 | MentalPower | but like any other portal, anyone can take it |
| 23:11.00 | ben | I thought we were considering how long we would have to wait for mages to get it to portal us from Darnassus. |
| 23:11.01 | Cairenn | wow, a *positive* news article about MMOs |
| 23:11.42 | Cairenn | http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070115/ENT06/701150387/1083/COL02 |
| 23:11.43 | bleetah | Cairenn: don't you know that everything on the 'net is lies? |
| 23:11.43 | JoshBorke | no way! i don't believe it! |
| 23:11.45 | bleetah | Cairenn: just goes to show, the family that plays together... :-) |
| 23:11.45 | bleetah | as opposed to the somethingawful post of yesterday |
| 23:11.45 | JoshBorke | The new expansion is already breaking sales records: Amazon.com says it's gotten more pre-orders for it than for any video game in its almost 12-year history, beating out "Halo" and "Grand Theft Auto." |
| 23:11.45 | JoshBorke | hot |
| 23:11.46 | Kirkburn|afk | 10 mins until EU opening |
| 23:11.46 | JoshBorke | so EU do open before US? |
| 23:11.46 | JoshBorke | s/do/does/ |
| 23:11.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Um ... yes? |
| 23:11.47 | Cairenn | you guys like my comment on the thread? |
| 23:11.47 | zenzelezz | woot, mass disconnect at Dark Portal |
| 23:11.47 | zenzelezz | "World server is down" |
| 23:11.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Who where what? |
| 23:11.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Cairenn, which thread? I'm one shotting grells atm :P |
| 23:11.48 | zenzelezz | oh come on, let me back on! |
| 23:11.48 | JoshBorke | lol, pop |
| 23:11.49 | Malivil | Cairenn: Owned. |
| 23:11.50 | Cairenn | :) |
| 23:11.50 | Malivil | =) |
| 23:11.50 | foxlit | Hm, I've got a question |
| 23:11.50 | foxlit | Suppose I register VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 23:11.50 | foxlit | Does that fire once when all addons' variables have been loaded? |
| 23:12.14 | JoshBorke | it fires once YOUR variables have been loaded |
| 23:12.14 | JoshBorke | pretty sure anyway |
| 23:12.14 | foxlit | How does it know what MY variables are? |
| 23:12.14 | JoshBorke | ## SavedVariables |
| 23:12.15 | foxlit | Okay, rephrase. |
| 23:12.15 | Mery | uhm think it fires once after all addon have been loaded |
| 23:12.15 | foxlit | How does it know who I am? |
| 23:12.15 | Mery | addons* |
| 23:12.16 | Mery | and it doesn't fire for lod addons |
| 23:12.16 | foxlit | Suppose I had a lib hooking VARIABLES_LOADED for multiple addons |
| 23:12.16 | foxlit | Would that break them to pieces? |
| 23:12.16 | zenzelezz | seems EU can go to Hellfire Peninsula now |
| 23:12.16 | zenzelezz | bastards who already have BC :-/ |
| 23:12.16 | Malivil | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/V |
| 23:12.17 | Malivil | "Fired during the loading phase of the UI to indicate that the Saved Variables of all AddOns that will be loaded during the initial load (or reload) of the UI have have been read into memory from their files. " |
| 23:12.18 | foxlit | So It'll work. I was scared there for a second. |
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| 23:12.20 | zenzelezz | and the world server goes down again... I wonder why I bother when I can't pass through the portal anyway =D |
| 23:12.24 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 23:12.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Is anyone else experiencing longer than normal queues? |
| 23:12.39 | foxlit | Isn't it about time WoW got an expansion? :) |
| 23:12.39 | ScytheBlade1 | My server, for the last month, was at ~300 queued peak hours |
| 23:12.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Last night, >800 |
| 23:12.42 | Xolan | lol server crash :) |
| 23:12.56 | JoshBorke | WOW |
| 23:12.56 | JoshBorke | talk about lagged |
| 23:16.30 | foxlit | purl is secretly playing TBC |
| 23:16.36 | foxlit | do not disturb her. |
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| 23:21.15 | Xolan | is TOC still 20003 with the 2.0.5 patch being released today? |
| 23:21.52 | foxlit | Yes |
| 23:22.01 | Xolan | hm, wierd but good :9 |
| 23:22.02 | Xolan | *:) |
| 23:22.19 | foxlit | No UI changes through 2.0.3-2.0.5 |
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| 23:25.37 | Corrodias | the financial scale of WoW just overwhelms my senses |
| 23:25.40 | Corrodias | i cannot even imagine it |
| 23:25.54 | jaxdahl2 | i wonder if i can play the weather card to get tbc early |
| 23:28.39 | Corrodias | i don't expect our local wal-mart superstore to put it on the shelves at midnight |
| 23:28.51 | Corrodias | i suppose it's possible |
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| 23:36.25 | Xolan | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.39 | Osagasu | huh? |
| 23:36.52 | Xuerian | Bastard. |
| 23:36.54 | Xolan | From the european collectors edition |
| 23:37.02 | Osagasu | . . . |
| 23:37.35 | Xolan | they screwed something up so you don't get your pet. http://www.wow-europe.com/en/burningcrusade/activatepet.htm |
| 23:37.39 | Corrodias | i decided during my last play session, a few months ago, to stop obsessing about silly items like that |
| 23:37.43 | Xolan | (only EU) |
| 23:38.03 | TC-Blorb | wow....entire wow trial in a 20 min DL |
| 23:38.09 | Orclev | ok... I wrote a addon... and It crashes WoW in seemingly random ways, and also adds "Unkown" entries into the friends list even though it aparently is using the WoW API as documented... if someoen wouldn't mind looking at it I can put it up on pastey.net |
| 23:38.10 | Xuerian | It's the silly things that make the game fun. I could care less for Dreamwalker, for example =P |
| 23:38.16 | Corrodias | although a netherdrake pet would be cute, i really won't pay for it. |
| 23:38.39 | Xolan | That murlock better not make any noise ;P |
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| 23:39.43 | TC-Blorb | hey Guillotine |
| 23:39.51 | Guillotine | hey TC :) |
| 23:39.59 | TC-Blorb | did you guys end up running it again? |
| 23:40.02 | Orclev | http://pastey.net/5139 |
| 23:41.04 | foxlit | Orclev: can't do local functio x() |
| 23:41.05 | foxlit | ? |
| 23:41.22 | Orclev | why not? I saw other AddOns do that |
| 23:41.44 | foxlit | Nono, why aren't you using that syntax? |
| 23:41.56 | Orclev | oh... didn't think that was legal |
| 23:42.00 | foxlit | Predeclaring local variables then redeclaring them as functions seems weird |
| 23:42.04 | Orclev | I can certainly do that |
| 23:42.51 | MentalPower | its not wierd if its a recursive function |
| 23:43.03 | Corrodias | i'm [away] now. |
| 23:44.36 | Orclev | I'm seeing two wierd things with that code. One, when you log in the client will crash sometimes, and it will continue to do so until you disable the addon, log in, log out, then re-enable the addon |
| 23:45.17 | Orclev | two, it adds a friend to your list sometimes, but when it does 2 entries get created. One is the friend, and the other say Unkown. If you click the unkown entry, it highlights that entry, as well as another one |
| 23:45.43 | Orclev | removing the other highlighted entry, removes the unkown one as well, but you can't remove the unkown entry by itself |
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| 23:48.59 | Orclev | yeah, I remember now. The reason I declared them like that is so that I can declare them independent of the order I use them in |
| 23:51.27 | Mikk | lua doesn't need declarations |
| 23:51.43 | Mikk | it doesn't attempt to lookup the function until the actual call is made |
| 23:52.37 | Orclev | it must, because if I don't do it that way it complains about trying to call a global function. Unless I need to use a different syntax to refer to the local function |
| 23:53.04 | Mikk | if you have e.g. function b() a(); end, you don't need "a" to be a function while the source file is being parsed |
| 23:53.25 | Mikk | it's legal to have e.g. a=123; function b() a(); end; function a() ...; end; b(); |
| 23:53.44 | Orclev | hmm... ok, so maybe I'm trying to call the functions wrong somehow |
| 23:54.12 | Mikk | or, heck, redefine a() several times between b() calls to produce different results |
| 23:54.24 | Orclev | if I do local function b() end; local function a() b() end; is that correct? |
| 23:55.15 | Mikk | mmmmmmm no |
| 23:55.22 | Mikk | ok, locals are slightly different |
| 23:55.43 | Mikk | locals are bit more declarative like in c |
| 23:56.40 | Mikk | ah poo. i'm only half making sense. i should stop trying to give advise when i'm about to fall asleep. |
| 23:56.49 | Mikk | having said that ... -> zzz. |
| 23:57.11 | Orclev | uhm... so what's the syntax for calling a local function? |
| 23:57.23 | MentalPower | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.9 |
| 23:58.29 | MentalPower | just like any other function call |
| 23:59.04 | Orclev | hmm... then why does it complain about trying to reference a global function if I declare them as local... |
