| 00:00.00 | cladhaire | so you can compile it |
| 00:00.13 | kaso_ | oh |
| 00:00.29 | cladhaire | i dont have a linux box to build on |
| 00:00.33 | cladhaire | only my mac machine |
| 00:01.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | our cries herald the coming of great pain for our enemies |
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| 00:07.23 | Mike-N-Go | Yay |
| 00:07.29 | Mike-N-Go | No longer messed up 9.9 |
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| 00:08.38 | Wobin | Industrial: http://www.inktank.com/AT/ |
| 00:08.48 | Wobin | Industrial: 6 years of webcomics, just waaaaiiiiting for you =) |
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| 00:12.20 | TC_Working | nice Wobin |
| 00:14.14 | Kirov | I miss Angst Technology |
| 00:15.11 | Industrial | Wobin: omg lol :P |
| 00:15.24 | Industrial | bookmarked! |
| 00:15.52 | TC_Working | i'm already linking good strips to all of the IT department |
| 00:17.34 | cogwheel|work | Cairenn: is there any way to get e-mail notifications of bug reports/feature requests and their notes? |
| 00:17.45 | Cairenn | it's coming |
| 00:17.51 | cogwheel|work | kk :) |
| 00:18.14 | cogwheel|work | what about automatically selecting "Replace with" when you choose a file to upload? /poke /poke |
| 00:18.16 | cogwheel|work | XD |
| 00:20.10 | TC_Working | cog, it works better when Cairenn is paying attention |
| 00:20.20 | Cairenn | or never |
| 00:20.24 | cladhaire | cogwheel|work: File notes you can get |
| 00:20.26 | Cairenn | you'll never know |
| 00:20.26 | cladhaire | comments I mean |
| 00:20.36 | cladhaire | and you can use rssfwd for the bug/feature portals. |
| 00:20.37 | cladhaire | in the meantime |
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| 00:24.25 | Garoun|Loupana | pictures for anyone that wants them from last night: http://flickr.com/photos/athryn/sets/72157594474538374/ |
| 00:26.01 | Garoun|Loupana | the end of beta that is |
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| 00:26.35 | TC_Working | hmm...i knew i should not have been to lazy to not go on |
| 00:27.18 | Garoun|Loupana | well 95% of those screenies are with all of my settings set ungodly low and almost all my mods off, there were that many people |
| 00:27.52 | Cairenn | it was rather nuts, wasn't it? |
| 00:27.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | god i hate how annoying flickr is on resizing images |
| 00:27.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 00:28.25 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah but fun |
| 00:28.35 | Garoun|Loupana | the army of 5 Jaina proudmoores was awesome :) |
| 00:28.40 | Garoun|Loupana | I hit 4800 spirit lol |
| 00:29.00 | Industrial | thats like 1 tick full mana? :D |
| 00:29.05 | Hallu2 | hehe |
| 00:29.06 | Cairenn | aaaaaaa! oversized gnomes! |
| 00:29.22 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah I was sitting at like 3k regen not casting |
| 00:29.31 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:29.32 | Garoun|Loupana | and 300 something not in combat |
| 00:29.34 | Tain | Nothing scarier than a giant gnome! |
| 00:29.46 | Industrial | how about a tiny ogre |
| 00:29.52 | TC_Working | well at least if they are oversized they are noy looking up your skirt |
| 00:29.56 | Tain | Nope no as scary. That's kind of cute. |
| 00:30.00 | Industrial | bwuaaahh hahahah! |
| 00:30.06 | Garoun|Loupana | those gnomes had Test Grow x 58 on them |
| 00:30.12 | TC_Working | s/noy/not/ |
| 00:31.01 | dukeku | purl: hello baby |
| 00:31.24 | Tierrie|Work | you should be like "how do you like people to peek up YOUR clothes for a change" |
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| 00:31.33 | abug | are the raid tab bugs fixed? |
| 00:32.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | what the heck is this thing: |
| 00:32.34 | Garoun|Loupana | you won't be able to directly lin since it's flickr but if you give the photo name it'll be easy enough to find :) |
| 00:32.46 | Garoun|Loupana | it's my g/f's flickr account not mine |
| 00:32.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't directly link to |
| 00:32.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/354539736_6f8875370c_b.jpg |
| 00:32.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | ? |
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| 00:33.11 | Garoun|Loupana | oh :P forgot about that |
| 00:33.13 | Industrial | wtf is that o_O |
| 00:33.35 | TC_Working | lol Tierrie, i'll leave that to you though |
| 00:33.48 | Garoun|Loupana | it's the 'Others' from The VIllage :P |
| 00:33.51 | Industrial | wow models are like origami men :( |
| 00:34.09 | Garoun|Loupana | It's Eyonix being silly :P |
| 00:34.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | what |
| 00:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | others |
| 00:34.51 | Garoun|Loupana | and some of the graphics look like crap becauseyou couldn't do anything and would crash if you left stuff maxed, at least on my screen |
| 00:35.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | what's the button with the ram icon? |
| 00:35.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the flight form icon minimap button :O |
| 00:35.46 | Mike-N-Go | Any hints to what "Warning: filemtime(): Stat failed for current/RecipeRadar..." on http://www.cryptofreak.org/projects/reciperadar/downloads.php means? |
| 00:36.06 | groll | anyone know how to use cartographer stats? cause i sure dont see any stats :/ |
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| 00:36.56 | Garoun|Loupana | flight form is Trinity Bars |
| 00:37.31 | Garoun|Loupana | the Ram is my mount button with my randomized macro |
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| 00:43.33 | Industrial | Wobin: asdasdfadfg http://www.inktank.com/AT/index.cfm?nav=47 |
| 00:43.40 | Industrial | they mentioned team fortress classic somewhere |
| 00:43.42 | Industrial | :-O! |
| 00:43.52 | Industrial | well its from 2000 :) |
| 00:44.18 | foxlit | What's the horizontal line separating guildlist from gmotd called, texture-wise? |
| 00:45.19 | Kirov | ~seen beladona |
| 00:45.37 | purl | beladona <n=beladona@cpe-72-185-210-159.tampabay.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 20d 19h 32m 49s ago, saying: 'bedtime. step 1 of wdn rewrite is done, one more step, but I am too sleepy atm'. |
| 00:46.06 | TC_Working | 20 days.....thats a hell of a sleep |
| 00:52.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | blood elves should get phoenix flying mounts |
| 00:52.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but after a minute or so of flying they turn back into eggs |
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| 00:57.39 | kahdgarxi | Mr_Rabies2 - rofl |
| 00:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | or even better |
| 00:58.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | make it random |
| 00:58.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | give it like a 20% to die and go back to an egg every minute |
| 00:59.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3days 4hrs 59secs until Burning Crusade. |
| 00:59.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 01:01.03 | foxlit | ~addonkit |
| 01:01.15 | foxlit | purl, find it. |
| 01:02.02 | TC_Working | foxlit http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p ? |
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| 01:03.06 | foxlit | Yep, thank you :) |
| 01:03.31 | foxlit | purl, a noble effort. |
| 01:03.58 | TC_Working | lets try that again |
| 01:04.03 | TC_Working | ~addonkit |
| 01:04.05 | purl | Located at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 01:04.26 | foxlit | "We have reached the maximum amount of FTP site users." meh. |
| 01:05.54 | TC_Working | ~addonkit |
| 01:05.55 | purl | Located at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 01:06.02 | TC_Working | ah, better |
| 01:06.04 | AnduinLothar | [Cu]Werik: Any idea what happened to wardrobe's screenshots? |
| 01:06.10 | AnduinLothar | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2183/wardrobe-al/ |
| 01:06.14 | Mike-N-Go | You can do that in PMs, you know. |
| 01:06.38 | TC_Working | obviously, or how else would i be programing purl |
| 01:06.54 | [Cu]Werik | AnduinLothar, they disappeared?:-) |
| 01:07.01 | AnduinLothar | i noticed.. |
| 01:07.22 | [Cu]Werik | Gonna check it out |
| 01:09.45 | foxlit | purl actually responds to "no, purl" in public channels |
| 01:10.02 | foxlit | Or some variation thereof |
| 01:10.24 | TC_Working | purl responds to almost everything |
| 01:12.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl, make me a sandwich. |
| 01:12.15 | purl | make: *** No rule to make target `me a sandwich.'. Stop. |
| 01:12.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | >:| |
| 01:12.21 | kahdgarxi | rofl |
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| 01:12.25 | End | purl, make clean |
| 01:12.26 | purl | make: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 01:12.26 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 01:12.29 | foxlit | Sigh, blizzard doesn't provide textures I wanted :( |
| 01:12.36 | kahdgarxi | purl, make |
| 01:12.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | what textures you need, foxlit |
| 01:12.43 | End | purl, rm -rf / |
| 01:12.45 | purl | -rf / is an unperson |
| 01:12.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | purl, help make |
| 01:13.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 01:13.45 | Tierrie|Work | make install |
| 01:13.52 | foxlit | If you look at the guildframe, there's a horizontal line separating the guildlist from the guild motd. |
| 01:14.04 | TC_Working | i feel like i am on an interactive linux box |
| 01:14.10 | foxlit | The whole bottom left / right is a single texture, though; so that sort of sucks. |
| 01:14.41 | foxlit | Wanted to have some sort of a <HR> inside a GuildFrame-like configuration dialog |
| 01:15.47 | Kirov | foxlit - it exists |
| 01:16.04 | Kirov | foxlit - I don't remember what it's called though |
| 01:16.20 | Kirov | I believe the old help frame used it |
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| 01:16.27 | Kirov | Oh, I use it in SAS |
| 01:17.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bigfeetzcd3.jpg |
| 01:17.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | welp |
| 01:18.16 | Kirov | Interface\HelpFrame\HelpFrameDivider |
| 01:18.20 | foxlit | GuildFrame-BotLeft :( |
| 01:18.40 | foxlit | That's the whole gmotd mold + space for a button, though :/ |
| 01:18.45 | foxlit | Ah, so helpframe? :) |
| 01:19.38 | foxlit | Interesting how that one is split up into 3. |
| 01:20.11 | Kirov | It's width is the same as the normal frames, so it's split in to three to work with the extra wide help frame |
| 01:20.15 | abug | Is the raid window still bugged in regards to promoting / demoting? |
| 01:20.39 | Kirov | Did a patch come out today? |
| 01:21.00 | abug | yeah |
| 01:21.37 | foxlit | USonly |
| 01:22.02 | foxlit | So how do I deal with it? Split into 3 separate textures using TexCoords? |
| 01:24.02 | PProvost | Did the 2.0.4 get re-released a second time today? It downloaded this morning and then wanted to do it again this afternoon. |
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| 01:28.47 | cladhaire | PProvost: Not for me |
| 01:28.59 | cladhaire | and i d/l'd at 6:30 EST |
| 01:32.37 | kahdgarxi | they increased the stack size of combat potions to 10 |
| 01:32.39 | kahdgarxi | w00t |
| 01:32.57 | PProvost | Odd |
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| 01:35.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | something need doing? |
| 01:36.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i keep hearing liquid snake when blood elves speak :x |
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| 01:38.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | Wer're allied with the tauren? Fantastic! We'll be having steaks inHELLO BROTHER |
| 01:39.52 | Tain | mmm Tauran filet, medium rare |
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| 01:52.22 | TC_Working | so so true http://www.inktank.com/AT/index.cfm?nav=148 |
| 01:54.33 | kahdgarxi | TC_Working - haha |
| 02:02.47 | Kirkburn | 2.0.4 patch notes are on wowwiki |
| 02:03.04 | kahdgarxi | linky/ |
| 02:03.06 | kahdgarxi | ?* |
| 02:03.13 | Kirkburn | Just type 2.0.4 :P |
| 02:03.30 | Kirkburn | www.wowwiki.com/2.0.4 :) |
| 02:03.35 | kahdgarxi | :) |
| 02:04.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | you getting those from the unoffical patch note threads or has blizzard written some up yet |
| 02:04.23 | Kirkburn | Not much tbh :P |
| 02:04.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 02:04.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | nvm haha |
| 02:04.32 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 02:04.56 | kahdgarxi | sheesh.. that was worth a TOC bump? |
| 02:05.05 | Kirkburn | It's 20004? |
| 02:05.09 | Kirov | they bumped it to 20004? |
| 02:05.12 | Kirov | bastards |
| 02:05.17 | kahdgarxi | or did they.. |
| 02:05.18 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 02:05.23 | Kirkburn | I don't think they did |
| 02:05.33 | Kirov | I'm not bumping the toc until TBC anyways |
| 02:05.34 | kahdgarxi | ah, they just unchecked my 'load old' button |
| 02:05.52 | Kirkburn | uh, 20003 |
| 02:05.55 | Kirkburn | argh |
| 02:06.04 | Kirkburn | I'll add that it's unchanged to the patches page |
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| 02:10.13 | Burrito | Buttiro.. funny |
| 02:10.31 | Burrito | anyhoo, is it possible to change the range of combat log? |
| 02:11.29 | Kirov | sure |
| 02:11.48 | Kirov | go to wow wiki and search for config.wtf |
| 02:11.53 | Kirov | then look up SetCVar |
| 02:12.19 | Burrito | sweet, thx |
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| 02:27.08 | MentalPower | Burrito: note that the CVar only determines what is sent to the UI, *not* what the server sends the client |
| 02:27.37 | MentalPower | so even if you set it to 999999999, there is a cap |
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| 02:38.31 | Kirkburn | 2.0.5 patch is coming very soon (or already?). Slouken: "FYI, the fixes previously listed for 2.0.5 are now happening in 2.0.6. An emergency 2.0.5 patch is being created to address a hardware issue." |
| 02:39.16 | kahdgarxi | holy crap |
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| 02:41.13 | Industrial | le sigh. |
| 02:41.27 | End | a hardware issue? |
| 02:42.04 | End | usually you don't patch hardware issues with client-side software |
| 02:42.52 | Industrial | em sew bored |
| 02:43.06 | Industrial | agin |
| 02:43.46 | Industrial | im so bored im compiling all.. most of gnome |
| 02:43.58 | kahdgarxi | Industrial - gentoo? |
| 02:44.09 | Industrial | no freebsd ports |
| 02:44.11 | Industrial | ;p |
| 02:46.08 | kahdgarxi | ah |
| 02:47.32 | Industrial | totally new to freebsd I didnt install any packages but the base so i have no idea if i could just have downloaded bins instead |
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| 02:48.08 | Industrial | but meh its the amd64 version so im happy i finally get to use it |
| 02:48.43 | Industrial | work it shall >:) |
| 02:49.02 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 02:50.13 | Industrial | i should try gentoo some time too |
| 02:50.22 | Industrial | but not now :P |
| 02:50.29 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 02:50.31 | kahdgarxi | i really like gentoo |
| 02:51.18 | Industrial | last time i tried for fun at school on some old pc it took forever and it was a pain in the butt :( reading the manual at the same time |
| 02:51.32 | Industrial | (on another vt) |
| 02:55.30 | Kirkburn | End a hardware interaction issue I think he means |
| 02:57.33 | End | I can't think of a funny response to that line being hilighted because my name is the beginning of it |
| 02:57.38 | End | but I'm sure there is one |
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| 03:00.20 | Kirkburn | End, lol |
| 03:00.31 | End | there it goes again! |
| 03:00.33 | End | ;p |
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| 03:00.47 | Kirkburn | I hate stupid Endings |
| 03:00.56 | End | I'm not stupid! |
| 03:00.58 | End | am I? |
| 03:01.31 | End | what about the bats? |
| 03:01.38 | End | don't their opinions matter too? |
| 03:01.46 | End | lol |
| 03:01.52 | End | you returned... |
| 03:01.55 | End | with a ship? |
| 03:02.03 | End | on your back? |
| 03:02.19 | End | I see. |
| 03:02.44 | End | well, you do have a ship on your back |
| 03:02.50 | End | you should get that taken care of |
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| 03:03.17 | Industrial | a ship-doctor? |
| 03:03.28 | End | no, a Kirkburn doctor |
| 03:03.32 | End | the ship is fine |
| 03:04.13 | Kirkburn | I certify myself sane. |
| 03:04.47 | Kirkburn | The ship-doctor found the canoe to be crazy, so they sectioned it. I'm safe ... for now. |
| 03:04.49 | End | an suddenly emote free too? |
| 03:05.37 | Kirkburn | Um, what were we talking about? |
| 03:05.45 | End | maybe if you took emoticon, that new emote suppression drug |
| 03:05.50 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah: "<End> usually you don't patch hardware issues with client-side software" |
| 03:05.57 | End | oh |
| 03:06.05 | End | I see now |
| 03:06.08 | Kirkburn | Heh, i just sat here and clicked one of the annoying smiley ads :) What fun |
| 03:06.13 | End | I didn't even know you -were- responding to me |
| 03:06.18 | Kirkburn | I thought you might ;) |
| 03:06.39 | End | since it worked with End in there as the word |
| 03:06.42 | End | and not the name |
| 03:07.01 | End | usually people put , or : in |
| 03:07.07 | Kirkburn | There's a word, "end"? What the hell? |
| 03:07.15 | End | but that -does- make more sense.... |
| 03:07.27 | Begin | There is no End! |
| 03:07.31 | Begin | only...BEGIN! |
| 03:07.54 | Kirkburn | Ahmadgad, now he's just making up crap |
| 03:08.10 | End | also, what's the +P channel flag do? o_O |
| 03:08.15 | End | we've always had +ns on here |
| 03:08.17 | TC_Sleeping | Sigh....no more sugar for End please |
| 03:08.20 | End | now we have +Pns |
| 03:08.31 | Kirkburn | Stop making stuff End up! |
| 03:08.38 | End | sorry |
| 03:08.40 | End | I'll make stuff down |
| 03:08.46 | End | ~make stuff down |
| 03:08.55 | purl | make: *** No rule to make target `stuff down'. Stop. |
| 03:08.55 | Kirkburn | Good. |
| 03:09.02 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 03:09.11 | Industrial | ... |
| 03:09.31 | End | <--- too silly? |
| 03:09.46 | Kirkburn | ~make stop |
| 03:09.48 | purl | make: *** No rule to make target `stop'. Stop. |
| 03:10.06 | Arrowmaster | ~make pie |
| 03:10.09 | purl | make: *** No rule to make target `pie'. Stop. |
| 03:10.13 | Kirkburn | Mmm, pie |
| 03:10.18 | Kirkburn | Noo! |
| 03:10.26 | Kirkburn | purl, you are useless |
| 03:10.27 | purl | Kirkburn: what are you talking about? |
| 03:10.44 | Kirkburn | See. |
| 03:11.02 | End | ~unproductivity |
| 03:11.03 | purl | yay! |
| 03:11.13 | Kirkburn | ~productivity |
| 03:11.14 | purl | yay! i mean.. boo. |
| 03:11.21 | Kirkburn | ~end |
| 03:11.22 | purl | hmm... end is near. |
| 03:11.28 | Kirkburn | I agree. |
| 03:11.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~clown |
| 03:11.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 03:12.11 | Kirkburn | ~clown |
| 03:12.12 | purl | Honk! Honk! |
| 03:12.37 | Kirkburn | I have the Midas Touch |
| 03:12.47 | End | ~your face |
| 03:12.49 | purl | your face is probably like an ass, apt. It sucks my dick inside. |
| 03:12.55 | End | I see |
| 03:13.10 | End | and who is this apt? |
| 03:13.45 | Kirkburn | He's probably quite spacious with several rooms. |
| 03:14.01 | Kirkburn | He can probably be bought for around $200,000 |
| 03:14.08 | End | I see |
| 03:14.14 | End | I have eyes you see |
| 03:14.16 | End | thus I can see |
| 03:14.22 | Kirkburn | But are you a clown? |
| 03:14.31 | End | probably not |
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| 03:14.42 | Kirkburn | That's no good then |
| 03:15.03 | End | sorry, but my clownliness is not up to spec |
| 03:15.09 | Kirkburn | Kirov, are _you_ a clown? |
| 03:17.14 | Kirov | Most of the time. |
| 03:17.26 | End | I see. |
| 03:17.28 | Kirov | The rest of the time I'm wearing a rainbow wig. |
| 03:17.43 | Kirkburn | Ask purl |
| 03:18.04 | Kirkburn | Not that I just coded anything |
| 03:19.38 | Kirkburn | Fine, I'll try |
| 03:19.39 | Kirkburn | ~clown |
| 03:19.41 | purl | Parp! Parp! Try again! |
| 03:19.49 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 03:19.51 | Kirkburn | Back to school for me then :( |
| 03:19.57 | kahdgarxi | :( |
| 03:20.06 | End | ~clown |
| 03:20.08 | purl | Honk! Honk! You win a clown scholarship! <purl twirls her bowtie> |
| 03:20.13 | End | uh oh |
| 03:21.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~zombo |
| 03:21.21 | kahdgarxi | still, the best automated irc action i've seen to date |
| 03:21.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | my script isnt? :[ |
| 03:22.51 | kahdgarxi | oh it is |
| 03:23.32 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 03:24.59 | Kirkburn | ~coconuts |
| 03:25.00 | purl | I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said! |
| 03:26.09 | Industrial | why would you want to twist coconuts? |
| 03:26.11 | Industrial | :| |
| 03:27.11 | Burrito | anybody know what the CVar : "CombatModeMaxDistance" = "30.0f" specificly is for? |
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| 03:27.38 | Kirkburn | Industrial, don't ask me, ask Fred Heatherton |
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| 03:28.08 | jaxdahl | Cairenn, you read questionable content don't you? |
| 03:28.16 | Industrial | -_^ |
| 03:28.18 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 03:28.21 | jaxdahl | or whomever put that in the topic |
| 03:28.28 | End | questionable content WINK WINK |
| 03:28.33 | jaxdahl | :) |
| 03:28.39 | Cairenn | love that comic |
| 03:29.05 | Kirkburn | Questionable content: 90% of a IRC channel's output |
| 03:29.20 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:29.27 | End | no, just your output and my output, Kirkburn |
| 03:29.31 | Industrial | gorrilla patch |
| 03:29.33 | Kirkburn | Nah, that's 100% |
| 03:29.38 | End | good point |
| 03:29.40 | jaxdahl | 105% |
| 03:29.55 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, we're modest, too :) |
| 03:29.57 | Industrial | anyway yeah, time for bed nn. |
| 03:30.08 | Kirkburn | night Indy |
| 03:30.35 | jaxdahl | i haven't played wow in 6 weeks |
| 03:30.45 | jaxdahl | so i resubbed and now i'm stuck on retrieving character list |
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| 03:34.52 | Kirkburn | jaxdahl, ouch |
| 03:45.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a stunwatch style addon that works for all classes? |
| 03:46.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | or druids at the least |
| 03:46.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need one for pounce/maim/maul/cyclone |
| 03:49.15 | kahdgarxi | CCWatch |
| 03:49.20 | kahdgarxi | not sure when it was last updated though |
| 03:49.24 | kahdgarxi | it's actually based on stunwatch |
| 03:49.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | 12/14 |
| 03:51.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | looks like its boring |
| 03:52.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 03:52.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | buggy |
| 03:52.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtf boring O_o |
| 03:52.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | musta heard it subconciously on tv |
| 03:52.30 | kahdgarxi | anyone know where i can find documentation for tinsert()? |
| 03:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_tinsert |
| 03:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | dunno :x |
| 03:53.24 | kahdgarxi | Mr_Rabies2 - you could also try natur's enemy casting bars |
| 03:53.28 | kahdgarxi | it'll to stun timing |
| 03:53.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 03:53.44 | kahdgarxi | Mr_Rabies2 - why didn't i think to look there ><, thanks :) |
| 03:54.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | np :p |
| 03:56.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i got naturenemycastbar |
| 03:56.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i see bennyhill.wav |
| 03:56.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_O |
| 03:56.36 | kahdgarxi | lol |
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| 03:57.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh crap its a stray cat |
| 03:57.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope it doesnt have rabies |
| 03:57.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh wait |
| 03:57.21 | kahdgarxi | hahaha |
| 03:58.06 | End | lol |
| 03:58.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | zomg my server has a queueuueueue |
| 03:58.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | only 40 people though |
| 03:59.02 | kahdgarxi | oh noes! |
| 03:59.07 | kahdgarxi | queues suck :( |
| 03:59.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh only 40 people |
| 03:59.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | rather have a fully populated server (read: ironforge) |
| 03:59.55 | kahdgarxi | man, i suck so bad at lua for loops |
| 04:00.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm terrible at lua in general |
| 04:00.33 | End | which part? using an existing iterator, or writing your own? |
| 04:00.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i started to write up an addon that played the transformers noise when the shapeshift event fired, but i couldn't even do that |
| 04:01.00 | kahdgarxi | End - AAAHHH!!!! |
| 04:01.04 | kahdgarxi | all parts >< |
| 04:01.09 | End | kahdgarxi: ahhhhh ahhhhh ahhhhhh |
| 04:01.14 | End | wait, what are we yelling about? |
| 04:01.20 | End | oh right |
| 04:01.25 | kahdgarxi | End - my complete lack of ability with for loops in lua |
| 04:01.52 | kahdgarxi | i'm pretty sure i can just use an old fashioned one |
| 04:02.06 | End | "old fashioned one?" |
| 04:02.28 | kahdgarxi | numeric |
| 04:02.31 | kahdgarxi | as opposed to generic |
| 04:02.35 | kahdgarxi | generic makes my brain hurt |
| 04:04.05 | End | so you mean like C-style? |
| 04:04.09 | kahdgarxi | yeah |
| 04:04.12 | End | ah |
| 04:04.15 | kahdgarxi | c-style i can handle |
| 04:06.10 | jaxdahl | http://www.control-v.net/temp/2007112T22522420.jpg <-- best mod ever |
| 04:06.43 | kahdgarxi | does UnitInParty() work for raids as well? |
| 04:07.09 | Thrae | kahdgarxi: Yes, if he's in your Party. If you want to check if he's also in your Raid, then UnitInRaid() |
| 04:07.29 | kahdgarxi | Thrae - ah, thanks :) |
| 04:07.42 | Thrae | jaxdahl: We all have to start somewhere ;)\ |
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| 04:08.15 | kahdgarxi | jaxdahl - lol, awesome |
| 04:12.07 | kahdgarxi | well that's annoyting... |
| 04:12.18 | kahdgarxi | -t |
| 04:13.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | jaxdahl |
| 04:13.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | can you make it just like count it in a little button or fubar thing or something, or is it only in the chat window? |
| 04:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i jump A LOT |
| 04:14.00 | kahdgarxi | heheh |
| 04:14.05 | kahdgarxi | i want a jump counter |
| 04:16.31 | kahdgarxi | what would i use to explicitly determine order of precedence for logic operations? i.e. not ( x or y ) |
| 04:16.42 | kahdgarxi | is it ()? {}? []? |
| 04:16.47 | Kirov | () |
| 04:16.53 | kahdgarxi | k, thanks |
| 04:19.19 | kahdgarxi | how's this for obfuscated? |
| 04:19.25 | kahdgarxi | tinsert(UHLS_Players, index + 1, tremove(UHLS_Players, index) ) |
| 04:19.28 | kahdgarxi | >.> |
| 04:19.57 | Cide | switches the position of two entries |
| 04:20.21 | kahdgarxi | Cide - you're a lot smarter than me :) |
| 04:20.31 | Cide | or just more experienced with lua |
| 04:20.35 | kahdgarxi | or that |
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| 04:22.22 | kahdgarxi | is there any valid way to tell lua to wait for X seconds? |
| 04:22.36 | Kirov | yes and no |
| 04:22.46 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 04:22.51 | kahdgarxi | wait.... i don't need it... i think :) |
| 04:23.29 | Kirov | local time = GetTime() + 10; |
| 04:23.29 | Kirov | while GetTime() < time do |
| 04:23.29 | Kirov | end |
| 04:23.33 | Kirov | that'll wait for 10 seconds |
| 04:23.38 | kahdgarxi | ahh |
| 04:23.39 | Kirov | but ... it'll also lock up wow for 10 seconds |
| 04:23.39 | kahdgarxi | sneaky |
| 04:23.46 | kahdgarxi | rofl |
| 04:24.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think chronos lets you put in timers for scripty stuff |
| 04:25.02 | Kirov | chronos, or metrognome |
| 04:25.11 | Kirov | (Cosmos or Ace2) |
| 04:25.13 | Cide | or ct_library or ... |
| 04:25.16 | Cera | anyone have an idea why SET screenshotFormat "png" in config.wtf would still have screenshots saving in tga format, I've never gotten it to work in all this time |
| 04:25.44 | Cide | Cera: are you running windows? |
| 04:25.46 | Thrae | Metrognome isn't Ace2. AceEvent is the Ace2 equivilent of timers. |
| 04:25.47 | Kirov | Cera - because that only works for Macs |
| 04:26.06 | Kirov | Metrognome is Ace, sorry |
| 04:26.07 | Cera | wow, how come that was never in the notes |
| 04:26.17 | Cide | which notes? |
| 04:26.24 | Thrae | Metrognome is an embedded lib by Tekkub, it's not Ace/Ace2 |
| 04:26.39 | Kirov | it isn't? |
| 04:26.46 | Cera | 1.11 patch notes, never said anything about being mac specific |
| 04:26.58 | Guillotine | it was under the mac category I believe |
| 04:27.02 | Cide | The config.wtf variable "screenshotFormat" allows the user to choose "png", "jpeg", or "tga" (Targa) format for screen shots. |
| 04:27.08 | Cide | under the header "Mac" |
| 04:27.13 | Thrae | There may be a version using AceLibrary, but that doesn't really make it an "Ace2" embeddable library |
| 04:27.23 | Guillotine | theres actually a couple cvars that do nothing |
| 04:27.45 | Thrae | AceLibrary is just a simple stub API |
| 04:28.16 | Thrae | Hence why it's non-versioned (no 2.0) |
| 04:30.11 | kergoth | cant update an addon on wowi :( |
| 04:30.16 | kergoth | http 400 - bad request |
| 04:30.44 | Cairenn | odd |
| 04:31.24 | kergoth | get that when i hit the 'update file' button on the 'edit file' page |
| 04:31.34 | kergoth | tried firefox and ie |
| 04:31.36 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 04:31.41 | Cairenn | Dolby-wowi: ping? |
| 04:33.18 | kergoth | 400 - File not found! |
| 04:33.18 | kergoth | 72.201.14.205 Goto WoWInterface |
| 04:33.57 | End | it's a game? |
| 04:34.06 | End | I thought it was serious business! |
| 04:34.18 | Dolby-wowi | ??? |
| 04:34.33 | Dolby-wowi | wowi loads fine for me |
| 04:35.02 | End | even the update file button? |
| 04:35.42 | Dolby-wowi | the [edit] button works fior me... |
| 04:35.57 | kergoth | the edit file button works fine |
| 04:36.02 | kergoth | the update file button from the edit page does not |
| 04:36.12 | Dolby-wowi | hmm |
| 04:36.31 | kergoth | at least for me, trying to update kEnergy to version 0.6 (new zip, new description) |
| 04:36.50 | Dolby-wowi | its not the vlan |
| 04:36.58 | Dolby-wowi | let me see if i can edit a file |
| 04:37.00 | Dolby-wowi | 1 sec |
| 04:38.21 | Dolby-wowi | updates fine for me in FF and IE7 |
| 04:38.44 | Dolby-wowi | what browser are you using and what happens when you try to press update? |
| 04:38.58 | Dolby-wowi | and what theme ? |
| 04:39.16 | kahdgarxi | is there an easy way to find a key that's holding a specific value? |
| 04:39.54 | kahdgarxi | hopefully one that doens't involve scanning then entire table |
| 04:39.59 | kergoth | ahah, damnit. thanks dolby, knowing you could do it fine was enough, was wondering if it was just me |
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| 04:40.11 | kergoth | it was google web accelerator, they mustve cached something wrong |
| 04:40.18 | Dolby-wowi | ohhh |
| 04:40.25 | End | user error |
| 04:40.25 | End | ;p |
| 04:40.28 | kergoth | :P |
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| 04:41.30 | Dolby-wowi | wonder if there is some code i can put in the page to disable cacheing for google |
| 04:41.36 | Cairenn | well, it updated fine kergoth, I just approved it |
| 04:41.40 | kergoth | thanks cair |
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| 04:42.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can someone help me with a simple macro? I'm a herb AND a miner and I'd like to make a single macro to switch back and forth. ie...find minerals if I'm finding herbs and find herbs if I'm on find minerals. |
| 04:43.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm doing /cast find minerals; /cast find herbs; but that doesn't work |
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| 04:44.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | zomg cutscene for past hillsbrad: http://youtube.com/watch?v=lfqHbOiJcAM |
| 04:44.22 | Neuro_Medivh | Nomad: /castsequence Find Herbs, Find Minerals |
| 04:44.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks.. I thought there was an easy way to do it. |
| 04:44.55 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm not familiar with the 2.0 stuff yet |
| 04:45.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i love the new macro system |
| 04:45.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | once you get accustomed to it it rocks |
| 04:46.01 | Neuro_Medivh | Yeah... I kinda know the new system =) |
| 04:52.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | for example |
| 04:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have a script that does pounce if i'm in stealth, or does faerie fire(feral), then mangle, mangle, mangle,mangle,fff otherwise |
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| 04:58.14 | Guillotine | I just have pounce for no. I have it share with maim once I get it thought |
| 04:58.16 | Guillotine | though* |
| 04:58.18 | Guillotine | worked great in TBC |
| 05:00.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | not a bad idea, really |
| 05:00.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | but with this i can spam 44444444444 |
| 05:01.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | or 4455555 |
| 05:01.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | with 5 being ravage/shred |
| 05:01.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | then 1 for rip, 2 for fb, 3 for maim |
| 05:01.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | well 1 is rip/stealth |
| 05:02.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | in other news |
| 05:02.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | the jerks that join arenas just to reset cooldowns are annoying |
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| 05:16.09 | kahdgarxi | hmm |
| 05:16.15 | kahdgarxi | they increased the range on mind vision rank 2 |
| 05:16.19 | kahdgarxi | it's 60,000 yards now |
| 05:16.22 | kahdgarxi | used to be 50,000 |
| 05:16.41 | kahdgarxi | i wonder when that happened |
| 05:18.57 | Nomad_Wanderer | 50K was out of range |
| 05:19.12 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Cera (n=Cera@c-67-169-136-42.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:23.34 | kahdgarxi | is it correct to define a variable like this? if ( local newVariable == nil ) then |
| 05:23.47 | kahdgarxi | the main thing i'm concerned about is making sure newVariable is local to this function |
| 05:23.52 | kahdgarxi | well, local in general |
| 05:24.09 | pastamancer | local foo = "bar" |
| 05:24.52 | kahdgarxi | pastamancer - that didn't answer my question :( |
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| 05:25.11 | pastamancer | does "no" answer your question? |
| 05:25.17 | kahdgarxi | pastamancer - yes |
| 05:25.44 | pastamancer | do the local ... inside the block you want it local to |
| 05:26.07 | kahdgarxi | yes, that i understand |
| 05:26.21 | pastamancer | if tacos == "tasty" then local stomach = "happy"; whatever end |
| 05:26.50 | pastamancer | you can't do the perl thing where you local a loop index |
| 05:26.52 | kahdgarxi | if i say local newVariable = nil, will future uses of that variable be local? |
| 05:26.58 | pastamancer | oooh |
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| 05:27.33 | pastamancer | yeah within it's scope |
| 05:27.33 | kahdgarxi | k |
| 05:28.53 | sylvanaar | what is the scope of a taco |
| 05:29.41 | kahdgarxi | mmmm, taco |
| 05:29.57 | sylvanaar | also, what happens if you do taco=nil then try to taco:Eat() |
| 05:30.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit |
| 05:30.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i change the tab over from another network cause they're talking about tacos |
| 05:30.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now this one |
| 05:30.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a taco conspiracy |
| 05:30.54 | kahdgarxi | hahaha |
| 05:30.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want tacos but the closest place is like 20-30 mins |
| 05:31.00 | sylvanaar | does your errorhandler() have a call to getglobal("TacoBell"+my,location):BuyTacos() |
| 05:33.07 | pastamancer | what's strange is that I went to a tibetan restaurant tonight, not a mexican one |
| 05:33.24 | Garoun|Loupana | did that update they pushed through today fix the button:n bug? |
| 05:36.19 | Thunder_Child | pasta, did you ever get a hold of garrett? |
| 05:37.45 | pastamancer | Thunder_Child: nah, I'm not near dave anymore, and I'm not in any particular hurry to get in touch with the g-man |
| 05:37.54 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 05:38.11 | pastamancer | last we talked, I was turning down a systems architect position at sylmark |
| 05:38.24 | Thunder_Child | smart man |
| 05:38.31 | pastamancer | I hate LA |
| 05:38.57 | Thunder_Child | well i am sure LA feels the same about you |
| 05:39.03 | pastamancer | probably |
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| 05:51.20 | Garoun|Loupana | oh, and the minipatch didn't fix the button:n modifier issue |
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| 05:56.33 | kahdgarxi | note to self: don't write too much code without testing, it makes debugging harder |
| 05:56.35 | kahdgarxi | >< |
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| 06:11.08 | kahdgarxi | Hmm... I'm not sure how to overcome this... i'm calling UnitInRaid("PlayerName") to find out of someone is in the raid, but rather than return nil if they're not in the raid, it give me an error.. should I be doing this a different way? |
| 06:11.26 | Arsonide | Hey how do I completely wipe all addons and all configuration data for those addons, like I just installed the game. I want to install the new version of MirageUI fresh. |
| 06:11.36 | kahdgarxi | (i.e., "Unknown Unit: PlayerName" |
| 06:11.51 | kahdgarxi | Arsonide - delete your Interface and WTF folders from your WoW directory |
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| 06:24.14 | cladhaire | kahdgarxi: You have tro supply a unit id, i.e. "target", "party2", "targettarget" |
| 06:24.26 | cladhaire | kahdgarxi: A Unit function only takes unit ids.. and virtually nothign takes names |
| 06:25.13 | kahdgarxi | well crap |
| 06:25.20 | kahdgarxi | how am i supposed to check if a person is in my raid? |
| 06:25.49 | kahdgarxi | keep track myself with join/leave events? |
| 06:25.50 | pastamancer | UnitIsInRaid or something like that |
| 06:25.54 | clad|sleep | target them |
| 06:25.56 | clad|sleep | and check |
| 06:27.01 | Garoun|Loupana | for Periodic table should I only be using the most recent file? |
| 06:27.07 | Garoun|Loupana | aka 3.0 now |
| 06:27.48 | Neuro_Medivh | well, the periodic table hasn't changed much in the last few years... even with the so-called trans-uranic elements that have only been produced in the laboratory |
| 06:27.58 | Garoun|Loupana | :P |
| 06:28.35 | kahdgarxi | clad|sleep - how then do you avoid a million 'invalid unit' errors? |
| 06:28.53 | kahdgarxi | clad|sleep - btw, not trying to patronize =/ |
| 06:30.08 | Neuro_Medivh | well, it depends on how you are arriving at a target to check |
| 06:31.56 | Neuro_Medivh | are you scanning everyone in your vicinity? |
| 06:31.56 | Neuro_Medivh | or everyone in guild? |
| 06:32.58 | kahdgarxi | I'm scanning everyone in a list |
| 06:33.17 | kahdgarxi | of people who have previously raided with my guild |
| 06:33.50 | Neuro_Medivh | approach it from the other end then |
| 06:33.59 | kahdgarxi | what do you mean? |
| 06:34.02 | Neuro_Medivh | scan a list of everyone in the raid |
| 06:34.08 | Neuro_Medivh | and compare it to the previous list |
| 06:34.30 | Neuro_Medivh | then track everyone who enters or leaves the raid |
| 06:36.01 | kahdgarxi | >< |
| 06:36.10 | Neuro_Medivh | the only other way I can think of is if there is an API to check the group ID of a player |
| 06:36.12 | kahdgarxi | I can't belive you can't find out if player X is in your raid |
| 06:40.17 | Kirov | sure you can |
| 06:40.25 | kahdgarxi | Kirov - how? |
| 06:40.55 | Kirov | UnitInRaid |
| 06:41.18 | kahdgarxi | Kirov - the problem with that is that if you pass is a player name of someone that isnt' in the raid, it errors out |
| 06:41.31 | Kirov | why are you passing names? |
| 06:41.37 | Neuro_Medivh | he wants to check by name, not by a unitid |
| 06:42.40 | kahdgarxi | http://wowi.pastey.net/4993 |
| 06:42.42 | kahdgarxi | here's my code |
| 06:43.21 | kahdgarxi | basically, i'm scanning through the list of valid looters (UHLS_Players) and checking if each one is in the raid |
| 06:43.51 | kahdgarxi | thechnically i'm scanning order and using the id's references in order to get the playername to check |
| 06:43.55 | kahdgarxi | but it's the same basic thing |
| 06:43.57 | kahdgarxi | i have a list of names |
| 06:44.02 | kahdgarxi | and i need to find out if they're in my raid |
| 06:44.20 | kahdgarxi | clad had the idea of targetting each one and doing UnitInRaid("target") |
| 06:44.42 | kahdgarxi | but the problem with that is you would get a milllion 'unkown player' messages, or end up targetting complete wrong people |
| 06:45.08 | Kirov | so |
| 06:45.08 | Kirov | local NameInRaid(name) |
| 06:45.08 | Kirov | for i=1, GetNumRaidMembers(i) do |
| 06:45.09 | Kirov | if ( name == UnitName("raid"..i) ) then |
| 06:45.09 | Kirov | return 1; |
| 06:45.09 | Kirov | end |
| 06:45.11 | Kirov | end |
| 06:45.13 | Kirov | end |
| 06:47.48 | Kirov | Targeting doesn't work anyways since you can't target in script anymore |
| 06:48.02 | kahdgarxi | good point |
| 06:49.39 | Kirov | The other option is to keep a hash table of people in the raid. |
| 06:49.57 | Kirov | But, for your situation, iterating over 40 people isn't going to kill your performance |
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| 06:53.21 | kahdgarxi | I think i'm going to just have to add an isPresent field to my current table of looters |
| 06:53.36 | kahdgarxi | and then keep track of who's in the raid |
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| 07:39.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | (//_-) my family will never understand me /wrists |
| 07:40.23 | Kirov | emo! |
| 07:41.09 | Inside | emu |
| 07:41.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | ostritch |
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| 07:41.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had an ostritch burger once |
| 07:41.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was pretty jawesome |
| 07:42.13 | Kirov | http://www.laughbreak.com/stories/not_a_problem.html |
| 07:43.53 | kahdgarxi | Kirov - aweseom |
| 07:44.02 | kahdgarxi | s/seom/some/ |
| 07:44.33 | bleetah | Emu's pretty tasty, relly |
| 07:44.59 | bleetah | just not old ones, too tough |
| 07:48.31 | Cairenn | amusement: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7966 |
| 07:53.57 | bleetah | i get the message |
| 07:53.57 | bleetah | I'll go have a shower then |
| 07:53.58 | bleetah | sheesh |
| 07:54.02 | bleetah | in the meantime, if there's anyone able to help me hack up libmpq to work on current linux systems, please /msg me and I'll get back to you |
| 07:54.13 | End | clad|sleep: o_O |
| 07:54.25 | End | oops |
| 07:54.34 | End | I tried tab complete |
| 07:54.41 | End | but cairenn got netsplitted off |
| 07:54.48 | End | so it hit clad|sleep instead |
| 07:55.01 | End | bleetah: actually, libmpq is probably -way- too out of date |
| 07:55.07 | bleetah | hmm |
| 07:55.12 | bleetah | no doubt |
| 07:55.40 | bleetah | my options are.. a little limited |
| 07:55.42 | End | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html#StormLib |
| 07:56.05 | bleetah | ah, hmm, why didn't I see the update before... /shrug |
| 07:56.07 | End | it's written in c++ though, so if you are writing code in C, you'll have to do some wonkiness to get around the name mangling and whatnot |
| 07:56.09 | bleetah | end: thanks |
| 07:56.15 | bleetah | yeah |
| 07:56.15 | End | (and it is updated for linux now) |
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| 07:56.46 | End | np |
| 07:56.58 | Cairenn | welcome back folks |
| 07:57.05 | End | no, -you- welcome back |
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| 07:57.35 | Cairenn | ckknight: tsunami warning issued for Hawaii |
| 07:57.44 | End | Cairenn: anyways, in response to that linky, all I gotta say is o_O |
| 07:57.45 | ckknight | and already dismissed |
| 07:57.48 | Cairenn | so anyway, did that link I posted come through? |
| 07:57.57 | End | yeah, and it made me o_O |
| 07:58.11 | Cairenn | you don't think what we did to my folks was funny? |
| 07:58.25 | End | I do |
| 07:58.38 | End | but I also think you guys are weird |
| 07:58.42 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 07:58.43 | bleetah | i dunno why people shriek at tasmanian devils |
| 07:58.56 | End | ...not...that I...would be ...any stranger...to weird |
| 07:58.57 | bleetah | apart from the facial tumor disease |
| 07:59.05 | bleetah | 'coz that's pretty disgusting |
| 07:59.08 | Cairenn | the one from the Bugs Bunny cartoons, bleetah |
| 07:59.14 | bleetah | ohhh |
| 07:59.54 | bleetah | reminds me... if you like that char, hassle WB to donate to the medical research into the facial tumor disease... prolly only 5 years befiore the species is extinct unless they find a cure |
| 08:00.04 | bleetah | also looks like platypus's have got something similar now |
| 08:02.43 | bleetah | gah, stormlib doesn't build out of the box here... gunna have to play some more |
| 08:03.31 | End | hmm |
| 08:03.41 | End | I had to add a ctype.h somewhere |
| 08:03.46 | End | an #include I mean |
| 08:03.59 | End | that was it I think |
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| 08:04.08 | bleetah | pklib header, it looks like |
| 08:04.23 | End | oh yeah, I had to make one change to a makefile |
| 08:04.27 | End | one of the filenames was wrong |
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| 08:10.41 | Mr_Rabies2|away | Cairenn: they glowed in the dark |
| 08:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2|away | HAHAHA |
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| 08:10.58 | Cairenn | hehehe, yup |
| 08:14.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 08:15.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there an updated wowtoc out? i'm not gonna use it to break my interface, i just want to be able to find my outdated ones without having to alt tab back and forth constantly |
| 08:15.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | assuming i can do that with wowtoc, i've never used it |
| 08:16.26 | Cairenn | wowtoc == ebil! |
| 08:16.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 08:16.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i need some way to just remove my non 2.0 compatible addons |
| 08:16.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | without alt tabbing back and forth |
| 08:18.02 | Cairenn | unh, look at modified date? |
| 08:18.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | true i could |
| 08:18.07 | Cairenn | if it hasn't been updated since 12/13/06, then it won't work |
| 08:18.40 | Cairenn | give or take a couple days, for those authors that released just before the patch, since we all knew it was coming |
| 08:18.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.0 was 12/5 |
| 08:19.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 08:19.07 | Cairenn | okay, 12/5 then |
| 08:19.12 | Cairenn | whatever the hell it was :p |
| 08:19.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe |
| 08:19.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i somehow remember that |
| 08:19.23 | Cairenn | if it hasn't been updated since before that .... |
| 08:19.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember weird things that hardly have any use |
| 08:19.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm just trying to clean all this old crap out |
| 08:19.58 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 08:20.09 | Cairenn | that'd take care of the bulk of it, doing it that way |
| 08:20.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's time to just chuck it out and write down what i'm missing that i think is worth trying to get back |
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| 08:23.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | what the |
| 08:23.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm flipping through the channels and see something like the home shopping network |
| 08:23.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a directv channel |
| 08:23.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they're selling sex toys, wtf |
| 08:23.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | seriously, wtf |
| 08:23.39 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:24.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm so confused |
| 08:24.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | "it's a willy in a can" |
| 08:24.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm changing this now this is too bizarre |
| 08:25.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh hell yes |
| 08:25.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i cut over to fuse and there's dragonforce |
| 08:26.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | this will get my mind off that weirdness |
| 08:28.12 | bleetah | end: (C) problem with stormlib ... /sigh |
| 08:28.36 | bleetah | guess i'm gunna have to crash-course myself on MPQ format |
| 08:29.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know mywarcraftstudio doesn't work on the new mpq version :[ |
| 08:32.35 | TheStig | I'd like to modify ExperienceFu to show current/total instead of just one or the other, but i'm not sure how to go about doing it. I found ExperienceFu:IsShowingValue and ExperienceFu:IsShowingDepletion, but i'm not sure how to combine them together into one new option |
| 08:32.57 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 08:34.22 | bleetah | nn Cairenn|afk |
| 08:37.27 | Tierrie | oh gno cairenn is gone |
| 08:37.29 | Tierrie | party time |
| 08:37.48 | End | bleetah: it works for me, but I wrote a layer to interface the C with the C++ |
| 08:38.32 | End | basically an extra C++ file with all the symbols I need wrapped in extern "C"iszed function |
| 08:38.52 | End | I tried apply extern "C" directly to the stormlib source, but it didn't work for me |
| 08:41.43 | bleetah | end: my problem's a little deeper than that, there's nothing out there at the moment that's got it's szource re-distributable, from what I can see of the (C) headers on stormlib |
| 08:42.05 | End | ahh, you're worried about redistribution? |
| 08:42.21 | bleetah | yup |
| 08:42.36 | End | ok, I misintepreted what (C) stood for ;p |
| 08:42.56 | bleetah | there's a really nice program (google for cartographe) that I wouldn't mind having a cross-platform version of, hence the desire for a mpq lib that's got no potential issues |
| 08:43.05 | bleetah | s/cross/multi/ |
| 08:43.16 | End | you might want to send them an email and ask |
| 08:43.45 | bleetah | yeah, I can but try.. I guess if I explain my intentions, they may take pity ;-) |
| 08:44.40 | bleetah | seemingly nice writeup on the format -> http://zohar.devklog.net:47805/projects/mpqkit/wiki/MoPaQ_Format |
| 08:44.50 | End | yeah I saw that |
| 08:45.26 | End | my interests in mpqs is actually fairly similar to yours, except I extract the data and distribute that data |
| 08:46.09 | End | (you want that one .trs file in particular) |
| 08:46.33 | bleetah | well, to be honest, I want something like cartographe that also support importing saved variables, and possibly exporting to a nice mysql/php driven site |
| 08:47.04 | End | that part would be neat |
| 08:47.18 | End | someone did do a google map port of the data |
| 08:47.20 | kremonte | any way to use CastSpellByName in a macro? i'm trying to pickpocket only if lootframe isnt visible :/ |
| 08:47.29 | Kemayo | Nope. |
| 08:47.35 | bleetah | the general idea would be a live update of where I am, what I'm hittingwent, what I hit, during my last session |
| 08:47.49 | bleetah | er... typos and fauly kybd ftl |
| 08:48.56 | bleetah | no, I've not got a faulty keyboard... text input is fried. brb |
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| 08:54.05 | bleetah | much betterer |
| 08:54.25 | bleetah | 'he who messes with drivers should expect borkage' |
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| 09:24.58 | Kirov | my god, debugstuck is my new best friend |
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| 09:48.09 | Corrodias | i might actually start playing WoW again when the xpac is out. i can finally begin that BE mage i wanted, and i'm finishing my current game tomorrow |
| 09:48.56 | Corrodias | which leaves 2 days of not having a specific current game, plus whatever delays come from launch problems |
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| 09:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2days 19hrs 6mins 2secs until Burning Crusade. |
| 09:59.38 | Corrodias | guys? this is very not work-safe, and it is very, very strange. http://img.4chan.org/b/res/18957400.html |
| 10:00.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | well it is 4chan |
| 10:00.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm scared |
| 10:00.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god hahaha |
| 10:01.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1168681003495.png was pretty much my reaction to this |
| 10:02.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty immune to the internet, so that's about as far as my reactions to things can go |
| 10:02.29 | Corrodias | i'd blame artists more than science |
| 10:03.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | if someone showed freud these pictures he would off himself with the nearest sharp object |
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| 10:10.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's not royal from the beta forums i hope :X |
| 10:14.29 | Royal | No, although I did get a beta key, I gave it away and never played beta, or posted on any forums :p |
| 10:15.53 | Corrodias | http://img.4chan.org/b/res/18951856.html |
| 10:18.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay whew |
| 10:18.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | that royal was like the biggest troll ever and never got banned |
| 10:18.48 | Royal | :) |
| 10:22.05 | Corrodias | once i finish playing Twilight Princess i'll try to get /b/ to hand over some midna pics, although i'm a little conflicted about whether or not i should, because i know many of them will be horrible, eye-searing porn. |
| 10:22.19 | Corrodias | i know this because i have a few of them already |
| 10:24.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | OH GOD I'M AWARE OF MY TONGUE! |
| 10:25.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | imachickenimachickenimachickenimachicken |
| 10:25.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | I'M ALSO AWARE OF MY TONGUE |
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| 10:40.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | LITTLE CIVIL WAR SOLDIERS ARE LIVING ON MY SKIN |
| 10:40.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | AHHHHHH |
| 10:40.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8237828717339677943 |
| 10:40.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | from that btw, if you're wondering what the hell i'm talking about |
| 10:42.39 | Corrodias | im busy reading a thread about counterfeiting coins |
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| 10:44.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll counterfeit your face |
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| 10:59.23 | Corrodias | "Some other famous social goofs that foreigners are known for include walking into homes without taking shoes off, confusing words like ippai and oppai (meaning "a lot" and "boobs," respectively) when speaking to prospective in-laws, and throwing up on the Prime Minister of Japan." |
| 11:01.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that's just a culture difference obviously |
| 11:01.31 | Corrodias | i throw up on my government officials all the time |
| 11:01.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | apparently whoever threw up on the PM watched one too many japanese porn movies and was confused that that wasn't normal over there |
| 11:01.57 | Corrodias | "whoever" refers, i believe, to president Bush during a semi-famous dinner |
| 11:02.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's what i was thinking but i wasn't sure |
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| 11:10.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | argh |
| 11:10.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is driving me insane |
| 11:10.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | firefox doesn't like how the files are presented on wowi |
| 11:10.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's forcing me to save them, no open option |
| 11:12.39 | Corrodias | i didn't notice because i always save |
| 11:12.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | like |
| 11:13.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | open isn't even like choosable |
| 11:13.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just Save File or Cancel |
| 11:13.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause of how it's presented |
| 11:13.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just open the .zip and extract appropriately |
| 11:34.54 | TheStig | why won't my SCT show my damage... i use to have it configured to do like [Moonfire: 285] now sct won't display it at all and i have to have the blizz scrolling text display it and then it just says 285 instead of Moonfire |
| 11:35.23 | zenzelezz | gngh... the 2.0.4 patch is downloading... so darn slowly |
| 11:35.45 | Corrodias | so we're up to 04? what's new? |
| 11:35.49 | Corrodias | bugfixes i hope! |
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| 11:41.30 | zenzelezz | don't suppose anyone has the enGB 2.0.4 patch? x.x |
| 11:48.48 | jaxdahl | the ELP? |
| 11:49.45 | jaxdahl | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/downloads/elp/ ? |
| 11:51.15 | Corrodias | no, he means the 2.0.4 patch for the british version of the game. |
| 11:54.23 | abug | unit name weirdness is fixed |
| 11:54.37 | Corrodias | what weirdness was that? |
| 11:54.56 | abug | the booting wrong people and whatnot |
| 11:55.05 | Corrodias | i have no idea what you're talking about |
| 11:55.26 | abug | mashed potatoes and gravy corrodias |
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| 11:56.09 | xlvii | /cast [equipped:thrown] Throw; [equipped:bow] Shoot Bow; [equipped:crossbow] Shoot Crossbow; [equipped:gun] Shoot Gun |
| 11:56.15 | xlvii | is there anything wrong with that macro? |
| 11:56.26 | xlvii | because it only works for thrown weapons ;_; |
| 11:56.38 | zenzelezz | 37% of the patch downloaded after 20 minutes, woot |
| 11:57.03 | abug | is shoot really split up like that? |
| 11:57.25 | zenzelezz | it used to be... but lately I noticed my Shoot Bow was gone and I could only find "Shoot" |
| 11:58.13 | xlvii | zenzelezz, you're correct.. ;p |
| 11:58.16 | xlvii | there is only Shoot now |
| 11:58.17 | xlvii | ;P |
| 11:59.18 | zenzelezz | I'm going to miss the raid :-/ |
| 12:00.25 | zenzelezz | heh, now the forums died too. Guess Blizzard should've stuck to their old download system |
| 12:00.26 | abug | But what I was talking about before was the internal bug with using unit names for certain functions. Things like inviting, kicking, promoting were picking the wrong people when a name was given, but worked fine with Unit IDs |
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| 12:51.50 | sylvanaar | any volunteers to do testing on WAU 1.7? |
| 12:52.12 | Corrodias | WARCRAFT AUTOMOBILE UNIFIER |
| 12:52.18 | Corrodias | caps make me right |
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| 13:14.07 | subbawt | How do you disable the message that appears when you enter a new area? Like when I enter a new area in Alterac Valley, it will say "Stonehearth Bunker", or something. |
| 13:23.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know but i always respond to things i don't understand with physical force, punch it |
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| 13:27.05 | Mery | do you want to diable all (also when you go into a new zone)? |
| 13:27.36 | Mery | disable* |
| 13:27.57 | subbawt | yeah |
| 13:28.01 | Mery | well if that is the case try /script ZoneTextFrame:UnregisterAllEvents(); |
| 13:29.25 | subbawt | sounds promising, thanks |
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| 13:34.07 | Mikk | anyone sitting on a copy of the current minipatch? i'm downloading ~1% per minute. |
| 13:34.20 | Mikk | enGB plx =) |
| 13:35.37 | zenzelezz | afraid not... it seems to download the full patch, and then remove it when it patches... at least for me |
| 13:35.51 | Tain | Anyone who wants their chance at letting a WoW dev know what they think in person, there will be various devs at 4 Fry's locations in California at midnight for the launch. |
| 13:36.19 | Mikk | poo |
| 13:36.26 | Mikk | i'll try to make a copy of it then |
| 13:36.36 | Insa | Mikk: http://finalx.eu/wow/patches/enGB/ |
| 13:36.49 | Mikk | YAY |
| 13:37.05 | zenzelezz | where were you when I spent 40 minutes downloading it Insa x.x |
| 13:37.05 | abug | ~fling Mikk |
| 13:37.27 | purl | ACTION flings poo at Mikk |
| 13:37.27 | Insa | haha |
| 13:37.27 | abug | ~poo Mikk |
| 13:37.47 | purl | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at Mikk |
| 13:37.47 | abug | purl, wake up |
| 13:37.58 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 13:38.09 | abug | purl, you're laggy |
| 13:38.20 | zenzelezz | ~literal fling |
| 13:39.40 | Mikk | ~lag |
| 13:39.52 | purl | [lag] very bad here :( |
| 13:39.53 | jaxdahl | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ is another good patch site |
| 13:40.03 | Mikk | is that link public, Insa? |
| 13:40.06 | jaxdahl | when it is updated, that is. |
| 13:40.08 | Mikk | i.e. can i put it on wowwiki? |
| 13:41.42 | abug | ~cypherpunk |
| 13:42.11 | Insa | i don't think so |
| 13:42.14 | Insa | i got it linked myself |
| 13:42.17 | Mikk | mkay |
| 13:42.21 | Mikk | *scratches head* |
| 13:42.59 | Mikk | tempted to torrent it |
| 13:43.06 | Mikk | but i still don't know where i'd stick it |
| 13:43.26 | abug | but it's already a torrent o.0 |
| 13:43.42 | zenzelezz | it is? |
| 13:43.51 | zenzelezz | mine just downloaded within the game |
| 13:43.58 | Mikk | it's not a torrent |
| 13:44.02 | Mikk | was just 2.8MB |
| 13:44.14 | abug | oh yeah |
| 13:47.07 | zenzelezz | ~literal poke |
| 13:47.57 | zenzelezz | moody bot |
| 13:49.35 | abug | purl, time |
| 13:49.36 | purl | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.01.13 13:49:36 GMT) |
| 13:58.04 | foxlit | Which layer should UI text go into? Think I've been using ARTWORK, but something tells me that isn't the intended use. |
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| 14:29.29 | Corrodias | i have learned about its tendency to just remove things that it feels are unnecessary |
| 14:29.36 | Corrodias | (referring to the patch process) |
| 14:30.34 | Corrodias | i was somewhat dismayed to see that the 2.0 patch removed my wowtest folder, for example, which i very fortunately had backed up on another drive as part of switching computers |
| 14:31.06 | Corrodias | i say that because it had the work i had done to fix a few addons for it |
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| 14:34.07 | Xolan | is there a way to get the angle of the player arrow on the minimap? |
| 14:34.29 | Xolan | or some other way to see which way the player's facing? |
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| 14:44.28 | abug | used to be able to do UnitFacing("unit"), but they removed that |
| 14:44.41 | Xolan | :\ |
| 14:45.10 | Xolan | well if they use Points to rotate the arrow I guess I could make some algorithm to calculate the angle from those |
| 14:46.05 | Xolan | someone in my guild wanted a compass :P |
| 14:46.41 | Tain | I've seen a compass display type addon, somewhere. |
| 14:46.51 | abug | me too, but don't let it stop you |
| 14:46.58 | Xolan | hm |
| 14:47.10 | Tain | No, just to say it can be done. No idea if it was a "good" addon. :) |
| 14:47.24 | Xolan | might be nice to check how they did it |
| 14:47.29 | Xolan | and improve it a bit :) |
| 14:47.52 | Corrodias | so, with 2.0.4, can tooltips be their own owners, again? |
| 14:48.02 | zenzelezz | didn't someone do something like that a while ago using the direction of models or something? |
| 14:48.25 | Xolan | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2950/simplecompass/ crap |
| 14:48.28 | Xolan | it looks good too |
| 14:49.18 | abug | I'd hit it |
| 14:49.44 | Xolan | was thinking of a fubar addon or so though |
| 14:49.54 | Xolan | with a horisontal display kinda |
| 14:50.20 | Xolan | W------------N-------------E etc and it rotates based on your heading |
| 14:50.55 | Corrodias | i'm curious... why are we doing this? in case you don't have a visible minimap? |
| 14:51.17 | Xolan | dunno |
| 14:51.27 | Xolan | just the tanks in my guild that wanted a compass :P |
| 14:51.53 | Xolan | moving their eyes to the minimap might be hazardus at times :) |
| 14:52.20 | Xolan | aha, minimapPlayerModelFacing() |
| 14:52.31 | Tain | That's exactly the type of compass display I'd like to see, Xolan. |
| 14:52.47 | Xolan | yeah I loved it in Operation Flashpoint |
| 14:53.13 | Xolan | right I have a project for tonight then, great :) |
| 14:54.23 | Corrodias | wait, why not just tell them about that compass? >_> |
| 14:54.32 | Corrodias | i mean, if they can't look at the minimap, they can't look at their fubar |
| 14:54.38 | Xolan | because it itsn't in the right format |
| 14:54.48 | Xolan | I'd like a "line"-like compass |
| 14:55.02 | Xolan | screw fubar then and just have it in a normal frame movable :) |
| 14:56.21 | zenzelezz | Flashpoint <3 |
| 14:57.51 | Xolan | this:SetValue(savedvariable.option or 1); would this mean if there's no SV use the other? |
| 15:02.33 | Tain | Yes, if savedvariable.option doesn't exist it will set the value to 1 |
| 15:03.23 | Xolan | ah, that'll make stuff a lot easier |
| 15:03.29 | Xolan | (for my other mod :) ) |
| 15:04.40 | TheStig | i mean does blizz really need a pair of eye of the storm emissary people on EVERY corner of EVERY town plus 4 more pairs patrolling the streets? |
| 15:06.12 | Corrodias | i've only seen mentioned "4 stores in California" |
| 15:08.14 | zenzelezz | are you two talking about the same thing? o_O |
| 15:09.29 | Corrodias | i'm responding to him |
| 15:09.43 | zenzelezz | yes, but I've never heard of California in-game |
| 15:10.04 | Corrodias | em... wait a second |
| 15:10.15 | Corrodias | you're talking about in-game advertisements? |
| 15:10.40 | Corrodias | i thought he was referring to blizzard devs supposedly planning to show up in some stores in California |
| 15:10.40 | zenzelezz | like he says, there are emmisaries from Eye of the Storm in the capital cities |
| 15:10.52 | Corrodias | nagas? |
| 15:10.57 | zenzelezz | *emissaries? |
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| 15:11.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | napoleons and space blueberries |
| 15:11.42 | Corrodias | foolish. the residents of the eye of the storm are nagas, aren't they? |
| 15:11.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're thinking the maelstrom |
| 15:11.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is the netherstorm |
| 15:11.58 | Corrodias | what other storm is there? |
| 15:12.12 | Corrodias | never heard of it |
| 15:12.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's on outland |
| 15:12.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | presumably brought about by ner'zhul or whoever firing off rapidfire portals |
| 15:12.30 | zenzelezz | they appear to be one of those new races |
| 15:13.10 | zenzelezz | don't know if they're the same race on both sides |
| 15:13.54 | Corrodias | dranei are probably more welcome in orgrimmar than blood elves are :P |
| 15:14.19 | zenzelezz | these guys had hooves, like tauren |
| 15:14.27 | zenzelezz | unless I saw very wrong |
| 15:14.35 | TheStig | they do have hooves |
| 15:14.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | the horde are looking forward to anyone helping them that they can |
| 15:14.40 | TheStig | i wish we had of gotten the blood elves |
| 15:14.50 | TheStig | ad you the dranei |
| 15:15.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah it's space blueberries versus napoleons/hiltons |
| 15:15.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | EotS |
| 15:15.17 | Tain | It's all about game balance. |
| 15:15.24 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 15:15.29 | Tain | Horde didn't have any hot females. |
| 15:15.35 | Corrodias | no, the horde is a bit ugly |
| 15:15.35 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 15:15.44 | Tain | So they had to balance that. |
| 15:15.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | trolls are passable after a while |
| 15:15.44 | zenzelezz | the trolls were nice |
| 15:15.45 | Corrodias | female orcs are hot, but they can't be mages |
| 15:15.45 | TheStig | i mean, thalassian is derived of darnassian |
| 15:15.54 | Corrodias | trolls' feet and faces just ruin them for me |
| 15:16.00 | TheStig | and the highbourne are derived of original night elves |
| 15:16.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a very good reason the blood elves will never help the alliance again |
| 15:16.01 | Tain | Not to mention voices. |
| 15:16.05 | Corrodias | yes. |
| 15:16.18 | Corrodias | hm? what's that, rabies? |
| 15:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | night elves and high elves hate each other moreso than most other races |
| 15:16.35 | Corrodias | i don't recall why, although i should |
| 15:16.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | whole addicted to magic |
| 15:16.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | getting kicked out of night elf society |
| 15:16.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | etc |
| 15:16.53 | TheStig | the chatty humans/night elves/etc. say "What... the blood elves... I mean we've never been really good friends, but joining the horde? I can't believe that!" |
| 15:16.58 | Corrodias | i must have missed that part |
| 15:17.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | well a lot of the alliance don't know about the blood elves really |
| 15:17.19 | TheStig | ah |
| 15:17.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | they didn't meet any humans except for ones they ended up killing |
| 15:17.49 | Corrodias | fun bunch |
| 15:17.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | after deciding to leave even okay relations with the alliance |
| 15:17.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, garithos was an asshole |
| 15:18.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | was sending in some of the few high elves that remained loyal to the alliance to suicide missions |
| 15:18.23 | zenzelezz | I feel like the only guy in this channel that doesn't know the lore inside out o_O |
| 15:18.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | because he didn't trust elves |
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| 15:18.33 | jaxdahl | what about the BEs in azshara? |
| 15:18.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | play WC3 and FT |
| 15:18.42 | Corrodias | i'm a little shaky on the lore. i read it a while back on wowwiki. |
| 15:18.44 | TheStig | FT? |
| 15:18.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | frozen throne |
| 15:18.50 | Corrodias | but it was a few months ago and i was very tired |
| 15:18.51 | TheStig | oh |
| 15:19.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not sure exactly how the blood elves are divided now |
| 15:19.15 | Corrodias | azshara blood elves aren't real blood elves. they're imaginary! |
| 15:19.34 | Corrodias | we're having a massive group hallucination |
| 15:19.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty sure they're some of the ones that stayed on azeroth that remain loyal to kael |
| 15:19.50 | Corrodias | now who's kael, again? |
| 15:19.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | kael sunstrider |
| 15:20.01 | jaxdahl | kaelthas? |
| 15:20.12 | TheStig | azshara blood elves attack alliance people so i'm fairly sure they're hostile ;p |
| 15:20.15 | Corrodias | sunstrider, sounds very familiar but i can't quite place it. is that the BE leader? |
| 15:20.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | royal blood elf line |
| 15:20.24 | jaxdahl | it's the name of the city |
| 15:20.27 | jaxdahl | sunstrider city? |
| 15:20.34 | zenzelezz | I played WC2, but never more than one or two levels of the other ones |
| 15:20.37 | jaxdahl | nvm |
| 15:20.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | all or most of the recent high elf kings were sunstriders |
| 15:20.52 | Corrodias | zenzelezz: well, i picked up a lot of stuff on wowwiki, which has quite an explanation of lore |
| 15:20.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | kael didn't take the throne though |
| 15:20.58 | Corrodias | my memory for it just isn't great |
| 15:21.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess the blood elves on the horde believe kael isn't coming back for them so they need to find friends FAST |
| 15:21.45 | Corrodias | damn leeches |
| 15:22.04 | jaxdahl | here's some nice burning crusade wallpaper, including the first widescreen ones from blizzard. http://jax2.zenblue.net/wow/ |
| 15:22.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | they've given away their old perfect ways |
| 15:22.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | they don't mind taking magic by force, and they live purely for pleasure now |
| 15:22.26 | Corrodias | i'm torn. i want a decent-looking mage, and the blood elves are the only ones fruity enough to fit the look, but i really don't like them by lore standards. |
| 15:22.36 | Corrodias | er |
| 15:22.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's really interesting how they went from royal goody two shoes elves to what they are now |
| 15:22.57 | Corrodias | i really don't like them if considering... damnit, i really can't think of the word i want. |
| 15:23.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | even the bloodelf city has a slum with blood elves in the gutter |
| 15:23.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think blood elves are really interesting |
| 15:23.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | when you play warcraft 3 you can see their side |
| 15:23.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | they just want some damn magic and no one else wants to help |
| 15:24.05 | Corrodias | i can go tell 'em to get a job, while i pull in welfare checks from thrall :D |
| 15:24.14 | TheStig | its funny to me though that night elves can be druids and priests... both of those classes use magic, druid focuses on arcane with moonfire, starfire, hurricane, etc. to deal damage, which is... a little hypocritcal |
| 15:24.23 | TheStig | s/hypocritcal/hypocritical/ |
| 15:24.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | Stig, moonfire and starfire are arcane by gameplay mechanics only |
| 15:24.43 | jaxdahl | blizzard should've dropped the PC and went with the real reason - they're hooked on heroin and only the horde can help them ensure a supply of poppy seeds from outland |
| 15:24.46 | TheStig | i see |
| 15:24.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | only so our ENTIRE spellbar wouldn't get screwed when we get counterspelled |
| 15:25.01 | TheStig | hehe |
| 15:25.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of all of it but 2 spells |
| 15:25.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | they pretty much are like that jax |
| 15:25.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i told you there's a slum with magic starved blood elves in the gutter |
| 15:25.42 | Corrodias | but attacking a naaru is too much for me. i don't mind if they're addicted to magic (hell, i like the stuff myself), but doing something that's virtually assistance to the demons is going too far. |
| 15:25.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a freaking gnome sweatshop |
| 15:25.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | making cloth for the blood elves |
| 15:26.18 | jaxdahl | Corrodias, withdrawl does a lot of crazy things |
| 15:26.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | the old paladins and priests realize the light isn't gonna help them anymore |
| 15:26.25 | Corrodias | they sound more like humans than any of the current races :P |
| 15:26.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | and realize the only way they can return to their former glory is by force |
| 15:26.45 | Corrodias | why is the Light not doing anything for them, again? |
| 15:27.03 | Corrodias | even the undead aren't cut off |
| 15:27.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | because they stopped trusting in it, i suppose |
| 15:27.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | things got so bad they lost faith in everything |
| 15:27.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | even a sunstrider |
| 15:27.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | elves losing faith to a sunstrider, if even partially, is amazing |
| 15:28.06 | Corrodias | please explain |
| 15:28.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's still statues of kael all over the city |
| 15:28.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | they went from being this beautiful race with so many things |
| 15:28.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | to being crack addicts with no fix |
| 15:28.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they're doing what they can to try to get back to that old rich lifestyle |
| 15:28.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have a facade of it still |
| 15:28.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but then you see the gnome sweatshop, the slums, see the paladins hating the rangers |
| 15:29.04 | Corrodias | rangers? we have rangers now? |
| 15:29.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's interesting how realistic they are |
| 15:29.11 | TheStig | what about those highborne elves in the hinterlands that are loyal to the alliance who have that troll captured that the horde have to fight there way in to free? |
| 15:29.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | hunters |
| 15:29.16 | Corrodias | crips vs bloods |
| 15:29.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | high elves were the best rangers |
| 15:29.30 | Corrodias | kidding! i have no idea what you're talking about :D |
| 15:29.44 | Corrodias | TheStig: they are your imagination |
| 15:29.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | the only rangers, except for who is now nathanos blightcaller |
| 15:29.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | was the only human ranger :D |
| 15:30.08 | Corrodias | i haven't read anything about animosity between hunters/rangers and paladins |
| 15:30.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | now he's sylvanas' he-bitch |
| 15:30.23 | sysrage | who doesn't hate pallys? |
| 15:30.35 | Corrodias | i know i do, but why hate hunters? |
| 15:30.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | the rangers and paladins in blood elf society don't get along well |
| 15:30.49 | zenzelezz | just about every class that like Blessings sysrage ;-o |
| 15:30.56 | sysrage | heh |
| 15:31.07 | zenzelezz | except after 2.0, there's way too many BoKadins without BoK :-( |
| 15:31.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh and on the light: |
| 15:31.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | Lady Liadrin, formerly a priestess, had recently renounced her vows, for she felt the Light had abandoned her people. She learned of the wizards' achievement and volunteered to be the first to bend the stolen powers to her will. With her decision a new order was born: the Blood Knights. These renegade paladins are able to harness the sacred powers of the Alliance's noblest heroes. |
| 15:31.27 | Corrodias | -why- do rangers and paladins chafe? |
| 15:31.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not in beta but all i can remember is some flavor text going back and forth between them behind each other's back |
| 15:32.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just like how realistic they are for ELVES |
| 15:32.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | all the races are incredibly believable |
| 15:32.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | no one is 100% good or evil |
| 15:32.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | except the legion and presumably the naaru |
| 15:32.53 | Corrodias | some aspects are believable |
| 15:33.04 | Corrodias | the trolls never took back their isle from the level 13 guy >_> |
| 15:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i guess all true druids are naturally good |
| 15:33.17 | Corrodias | nature is not good or evil, either |
| 15:33.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the dragon aspects except deathwing's crew |
| 15:33.22 | End-sleep | plus, we defeat that level 13 guy |
| 15:33.26 | Corrodias | it's sort of self-preservative at best |
| 15:33.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | what do you mean corr |
| 15:33.59 | TheStig | its sort of ironic how the dranei arrive on azeroth just as the dark portal is opening |
| 15:34.07 | TheStig | now they can go back to draneor |
| 15:34.19 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:34.23 | Corrodias | i mean, i've never heard of nature trying to help people. it mostly just sits around, growing. |
| 15:34.24 | End | yeah, but going back is hard |
| 15:34.27 | End | the place is a mess |
| 15:34.34 | TheStig | lol |
| 15:34.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | the druids are why the legion got stopped both times so far |
| 15:34.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | namely furion |
| 15:35.01 | zenzelezz | yeah, nerf feral |
| 15:35.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | illidan helped the first time |
| 15:35.15 | TheStig | but only because chickipoo asked |
| 15:35.23 | Corrodias | illidan sounds like a great candidate for horde membership :P |
| 15:35.31 | Corrodias | but noooooooo |
| 15:35.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the wisps were nature itself being summoned by furion |
| 15:35.54 | TheStig | btw wisps have faces |
| 15:35.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | illidan still cares for tyrande and malfurion |
| 15:35.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the interesting thing |
| 15:35.58 | TheStig | if you zoom in all the way |
| 15:35.58 | End | Corrodias: illidan would never befriend the enemies of "chickipoo" as TheStig called her |
| 15:36.00 | Corrodias | in this case, though, you're fighting on behalf of nature against something that wants to destroy -all- life |
| 15:36.04 | TheStig | you can see a face |
| 15:36.06 | TheStig | in wisps |
| 15:36.09 | Corrodias | chickipoo? |
| 15:36.22 | End | the horde and alliance can work together in grave circumstances, but other than that, all bets are off |
| 15:36.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's almost like the blood elves |
| 15:36.27 | TheStig | yeah the high priestest lady of the night elves, i forget her name |
| 15:36.30 | Corrodias | i said horde, not alliance |
| 15:36.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | all he wanted was power |
| 15:36.33 | TheStig | the one that illidian and malfurion both wanted |
| 15:36.37 | End | tyrande |
| 15:36.42 | End | is chickie poo's name |
| 15:36.44 | TheStig | and yeah tyrande whisperwind |
| 15:36.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but now all of his power and losing to arthas is just too much for him |
| 15:36.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and he's got batshit insane |
| 15:36.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | gone |
| 15:37.02 | Corrodias | a convenient blizzard excuse! |
| 15:37.03 | End | yeah |
| 15:37.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | elves don't take too well to having a lot of power |
| 15:37.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially when they suddenly get their ass kicked with all that power |
| 15:37.29 | Corrodias | apparently |
| 15:37.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | malfurion's the only one that's been able to handle it |
| 15:37.38 | End | well, the night elves know what it can do to you |
| 15:37.51 | End | malfurion's power is of a different sort |
| 15:37.54 | TheStig | Mr_Rabies: malfurion is in a coma in moonglade... shows how well he handled it |
| 15:38.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's in the emerald dream |
| 15:38.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | riding on ysera |
| 15:38.08 | TheStig | oh yeah |
| 15:38.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | fighting off the emerald nightmare |
| 15:38.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | how badass is that |
| 15:38.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's kicking ass in the druid matrix |
| 15:38.24 | TheStig | still that qualifies as a coma ;p |
| 15:38.36 | End | I wonder when we, the players, will get exposure to the emerald dream |
| 15:38.38 | Industrial | Question: why is the undead lady in WC3 an undead night elf ranger and in wow in UC she appears as a ... how do you call that again... |
| 15:38.41 | Corrodias | i wonder if he has a feeding tube |
| 15:38.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think the nightmare is probably a fragment of archimonde |
| 15:38.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean |
| 15:38.50 | TheStig | still no matter what the emerald nightmare does, nothing is going to permanently change the dream only the titans can do that |
| 15:38.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was stuck to the freaking world tree |
| 15:39.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | antenna of the emerald dream |
| 15:39.13 | Corrodias | rabies knows things that wowwiki doesn't say |
| 15:39.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and exploded while attached to it |
| 15:39.29 | End | I hadn't considered that |
| 15:39.34 | End | that's a good point |
| 15:39.48 | Xolan | anyone know the model facing scale? |
| 15:39.56 | Xolan | seems to be 0->6.3 or so |
| 15:40.08 | End | maybe 2pi? |
| 15:40.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a little nugget in here about the emerald dream that makes me salivate among other things |
| 15:40.12 | TheStig | the emerald nightmare are 4 dragons of Ysera's brood that have gone insane |
| 15:40.12 | End | 0 to 2pi? |
| 15:40.26 | Xolan | maybe, not a math guy :P |
| 15:40.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the nightmare has corrupted them stig |
| 15:40.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're not the nightmare |
| 15:40.34 | End | Xolan: try using math.rad(), to convert to radians |
| 15:40.35 | TheStig | oh |
| 15:40.39 | TheStig | i guess i read that wrong |
| 15:40.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a huge portion of the dream that instead of being green |
| 15:40.42 | End | math.rad(180) for example |
| 15:40.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | is like dead black |
| 15:41.00 | Xolan | will do, cheers end |
| 15:41.09 | TheStig | the titans need to come and fix it then |
| 15:41.15 | End | :) |
| 15:41.28 | foxlit | And guess who's scheduled to appear soon? :P |
| 15:41.30 | TheStig | is archimonde still plastered on the side of nordrassil? |
| 15:41.49 | Corrodias | what gives you the impression that the Titans have control over the emerlald dream? |
| 15:42.00 | TheStig | Corrodias: they created it |
| 15:42.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/encyclopedia/394.xml |
| 15:42.12 | Xolan | is there a function to turn rads into degs? |
| 15:42.16 | Industrial | star trek! no star wars! spock! luke! |
| 15:42.22 | End | probably |
| 15:42.22 | foxlit | Xolan: convert them :) |
| 15:42.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | Hence, for most creatures, moving through the Dream is achieved in the normal fashion, despite the realm's chiefly spiritual character. |
| 15:42.30 | foxlit | 360 degrees = pi |
| 15:42.38 | End | no, 360 degrees = 2pi |
| 15:42.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | These rules do not apply to druids of sufficient skill or experience, who are trained to see beyond physical reality. These druids might be capable of abnormal movement in the Dream (e.g., a night elf who can sprint at a greatly accelerated rate, walk through solid objects, or fly). |
| 15:42.44 | End | 180 degrees = pi |
| 15:42.45 | foxlit | My bad :P |
| 15:42.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that |
| 15:42.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | makes me hot |
| 15:42.53 | Corrodias | Although the Dream is beautiful, its primal savagery can also be deadly. -- neeeeeeuuuuutraaaal |
| 15:42.58 | Xolan | right... :) |
| 15:43.05 | Xolan | I'll be thinking all night! |
| 15:43.09 | End | Corrodias: yeah, that speaks neutral to me too |
| 15:43.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | well nature is ultimately more important to preserve itself |
| 15:43.26 | End | in other games druids are generally classified as neutral as well |
| 15:43.43 | Xolan | math.deg duh ;P |
| 15:43.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids are more concerned with keeping the planet (and the dream) from going to all hell |
| 15:43.55 | Corrodias | yeah. demons want to come and wipe out everything... that's not good for nature. |
| 15:43.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | than with the minor battles of the factions |
| 15:44.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | horde nor alliance should matter when you have a huge zombie army in the north and a bunch of angry demons on another planet |
| 15:44.31 | Corrodias | we conveniently ignore lore to pound each other. shh. |
| 15:44.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | well no, it's realistic |
| 15:44.44 | Corrodias | especially those druid-on-druid battles :D |
| 15:44.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | people don't see the bigger picture because it's been a while |
| 15:45.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's been a while since people have seen their friends trying to claw into their house and eat them |
| 15:45.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | you tend to forget these things and squabble with one and another |
| 15:45.28 | End | well, horde and alliance did "push" together through the portal |
| 15:45.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | exactly |
| 15:45.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was in their face |
| 15:45.43 | End | and the main line at the portal is combosed of -both- horde and alliance |
| 15:45.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't ignore kazzak being like SCREW YOU GUYS I'M GOING HOME |
| 15:45.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | that means the portal is open and something big is happening |
| 15:46.15 | End | however, pass the horde/alliance forces and the legion forces at the portal, all bets are off |
| 15:46.23 | End | everyone wants a piece of outland :) |
| 15:46.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep |
| 15:46.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like the new world |
| 15:46.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone will fight indians together |
| 15:46.43 | Corrodias | kazzak. yeah. i really need to review that lore. |
| 15:46.47 | TheStig | well |
| 15:46.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | but once the indians are out of the way, they fight amongst one another |
| 15:46.54 | TheStig | on my server |
| 15:46.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | for land |
| 15:47.02 | TheStig | the only people at the portal are horde cause |
| 15:47.08 | TheStig | every ally that gets near gets dead fast |
| 15:47.15 | Tain | So we're going to give the Outland natives small pox? |
| 15:47.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | basically yeah |
| 15:47.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's our plan |
| 15:47.26 | TheStig | no ally has even been able to accept the quest for the portal |
| 15:47.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | give illidan some syphilis and hope |
| 15:48.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got that quest done within an hour of my server being up |
| 15:48.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | it only took that long cause of the jerks aoeing the hell out of the place |
| 15:48.16 | TheStig | on my server no alliance has been in naxx since september and the only guild to have ever gone there quit shortly after they got their first tier 3 piece |
| 15:48.20 | zenzelezz | same Mr_Rabies2 |
| 15:48.22 | End | my server appears fairly balanced now or something |
| 15:48.24 | TheStig | they all transferred off |
| 15:48.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | you on uh |
| 15:48.34 | End | since who controlled the portal kept switching off |
| 15:48.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | D&T's old server? |
| 15:48.42 | TheStig | i'm on demon soul |
| 15:48.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 15:48.56 | TheStig | theres like 3:1 horde/alliance on this server |
| 15:49.00 | TheStig | horde have tier 3 |
| 15:49.04 | TheStig | alliance barely has MC gear |
| 15:49.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems like everyone got the hell out of dodge as soon as D&T left from whereever they were on |
| 15:49.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're like 1.7:1 a:h |
| 15:49.16 | Corrodias | D&T? |
| 15:49.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | deaf and texas |
| 15:49.33 | TheStig | Denial left my server and then everyone did the same thing |
| 15:49.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | death and taxes :P |
| 15:49.40 | TheStig | we have exactly one raid guild left |
| 15:49.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had <Deaf and Texas> for a while |
| 15:49.47 | TheStig | on alliance side |
| 15:49.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and was recruiting people for killing ARTHUS |
| 15:50.06 | TheStig | and their last boss kill was garr in early december |
| 15:50.11 | End | you mean ARFAS? |
| 15:50.14 | TheStig | meanwhile horde side still raids constantly |
| 15:50.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | man |
| 15:50.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | the illidan versus arthas fight |
| 15:50.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | is awesome |
| 15:50.25 | TheStig | i can't do anything on my server |
| 15:50.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | even in ingame cutscenes |
| 15:50.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=eB82pF_64mw |
| 15:50.55 | TheStig | well i do have horde friends through the irc chat room for our server so i don't really get killed often while farming or grinding rep |
| 15:51.01 | TheStig | but everyone else is basically screwed |
| 15:51.05 | Corrodias | you should have seen it in real life! j/k |
| 15:51.14 | TheStig | you can get to about lv 40 on demon soul if you stay far away from STV |
| 15:51.54 | TheStig | it is nearly impossible to level as alliance on DS unless you know people cause horde will mess you up |
| 15:52.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | this cutscene still gives me chills |
| 15:52.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=p0P5nmcfXEk |
| 15:52.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | like |
| 15:52.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | so bad |
| 15:52.33 | zenzelezz | cutscenes; that reminds me of WC2... those were so sweet |
| 15:52.34 | TheStig | and all the little kid horde have decided to guard the dark portal to make sure that no alliance can get through until after horde are already mostly lvl 70 |
| 15:52.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | chris metzen did all the voices in warcraft 1 and i think 2 |
| 15:52.57 | Corrodias | because only children oppress people! |
| 15:52.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | if not all in 2, almost all |
| 15:53.05 | End | yeah, war3 had a lot of great cut scenes |
| 15:53.09 | zenzelezz | I remember his drawings in the WC2 manual |
| 15:53.19 | End | yeah I do too |
| 15:53.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | his art is pretty crappy looking :P |
| 15:53.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i commend him |
| 15:53.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | for doing so much |
| 15:53.28 | zenzelezz | ! |
| 15:53.31 | zenzelezz | heahen |
| 15:53.33 | End | crappy? |
| 15:53.35 | zenzelezz | +t |
| 15:53.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 15:53.43 | Corrodias | no... rough. |
| 15:53.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | compared to samwise |
| 15:53.50 | Corrodias | rugged |
| 15:53.56 | zenzelezz | I disagree |
| 15:53.57 | Corrodias | beardly. |
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| 15:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.sonsofthestorm.com/ |
| 15:54.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | compare metzen to samwise |
| 15:54.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like night and day |
| 15:54.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | however |
| 15:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen did story, voices, some coding, concept art |
| 15:54.48 | zenzelezz | so you're not just dissing Metzen now, you're also dissing the night? |
| 15:54.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was the damn development team |
| 15:54.53 | End | I wouldn't call night crappy |
| 15:55.13 | Corrodias | so what does Arthas eat up on his cold seat? |
| 15:55.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen threw a fit over giving both factions druids |
| 15:55.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably people i'm thinking |
| 15:55.27 | Corrodias | lol |
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| 15:55.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | he probably doesnt need to eat, he is the most powerful freaking thing ever |
| 15:55.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's a very pissed off ner'zhul |
| 15:56.15 | End | yeah, metzen didn't like horde getting druids |
| 15:56.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | and really doesn't mind killing everything that lives anywhere |
| 15:56.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Duh. Souls. |
| 15:56.26 | End | nor did he like female nelfs getting druids |
| 15:56.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | metzen only wanted Night elf Males being druids |
| 15:56.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 15:57.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's how it is with npc's though |
| 15:57.17 | Corrodias | if we could have gotten rid of paladins.... |
| 15:57.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | no female druids as far as i can think |
| 15:57.17 | Corrodias | i'd take that trade |
| 15:57.18 | TheStig | Mr_Rabies: so he only wanted alliance to have druids? how would that have been balanced at all lol |
| 15:57.26 | Corrodias | looks like maybe i should login some day soon and participate in this blasted lands event |
| 15:57.28 | Neuro_Medivh | thematically, they should have made the classes differently |
| 15:57.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | because that's how things are in the story |
| 15:57.32 | End | yeah, that's why they gave horde druids anyways for the most part |
| 15:57.32 | Corrodias | TheStig: no paladins! :D |
| 15:57.40 | Neuro_Medivh | shaman should have been horde druids |
| 15:57.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | no paladins would probably have been alliance only too |
| 15:57.52 | Corrodias | and everybody's happy |
| 15:58.02 | Neuro_Medivh | they could have made Blood Knights as a paladin equivilent |
| 15:58.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 15:58.29 | Corrodias | and not given the alliance access to shamans? |
| 15:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | weren't any blood elves on horde at the time |
| 15:58.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is going with metzen's original vision |
| 15:58.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | would have been a very different game |
| 15:59.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | NE males would all be druids |
| 15:59.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | females would be hunters, priests, and warriors |
| 15:59.16 | Corrodias | cows would probably be eating grass :P |
| 15:59.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | taurens would be warriors and shamans |
| 15:59.36 | Neuro_Medivh | and steaks |
| 15:59.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | orc: warlock, warrior, shaman probably |
| 16:00.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | undead: death knight, shadow priest, warrior? |
| 16:00.15 | Corrodias | warlock? really? |
| 16:00.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell yeah |
| 16:00.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | the first orcs were warlocks |
| 16:00.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 16:00.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | the first warlocks were orcs |
| 16:00.29 | Neuro_Medivh | My point is that shaman should have been the horde equivilent to druids, there was no need for a seperate shaman class |
| 16:00.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | shamans are a mix of |
| 16:00.51 | Neuro_Medivh | I know what they are NOW |
| 16:00.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | spirit walkers, shamans, and far seers |
| 16:00.56 | End | there was no way orcs wouldn't have shaman |
| 16:01.01 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm simply talking game design |
| 16:01.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | which were horde units in wc3 |
| 16:01.18 | End | part of the horde rebirth, was them rediscovering their shaman roots |
| 16:01.22 | Corrodias | the "counterpart", not equivalent. |
| 16:01.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | er oops throw shaman on orcs too |
| 16:01.28 | End | er, was the orcs finding it I mean |
| 16:01.40 | Corrodias | and undead? i suppose they'd still be dead! |
| 16:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | trolls would be hunters, priests, shamans, warriors, mages |
| 16:02.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | which i think is their choices now :P |
| 16:02.16 | Corrodias | is troll voodoo related to arcane magic? |
| 16:02.17 | Neuro_Medivh | right... the alliance has druids as their hippie treehugging nature casters, and horde has shaman as their brutal, "Nature, red of tooth and claw" casters |
| 16:02.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 16:02.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | not in the same way |
| 16:02.32 | Corrodias | how do trolls get to be mages? |
| 16:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they use magic |
| 16:02.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | from the loa and whatnot |
| 16:03.06 | Tain | Ah everyone should be able to be everything. |
| 16:03.10 | TheStig | no offense to metzen but his vision of wow sounds like crap~ |
| 16:03.14 | Neuro_Medivh | personally, I feel totems are simply a bad design |
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| 16:04.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Primal_God |
| 16:04.03 | Industrial | i dont like that they are destroyable |
| 16:04.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that's why metzen had to make some concessions |
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| 16:04.32 | Industrial | pretty useless in 1v1, just whack every totem he puts down and he loses mana |
| 16:04.35 | Neuro_Medivh | who is metzen? |
| 16:04.41 | Corrodias | hmm, troll magic sounds more nature-based. |
| 16:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | his original version worked very well for strategy games |
| 16:04.56 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, a wow producer? |
| 16:05.06 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Chris_Metzen |
| 16:05.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | he was pretty much everyone in the wacraft 1 dev team |
| 16:05.09 | Industrial | troll magic is voodoo based :P |
| 16:05.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | troll magic manipulates nature |
| 16:05.20 | Osagasu | and shadow. |
| 16:05.24 | Corrodias | "The Trolls draw power for their Voodoo Magics by performing rituals and invoking the Primal Gods or Forest spirits: the Loa gods." |
| 16:05.28 | Osagasu | voodoo is nature and shadow. |
| 16:05.28 | Neuro_Medivh | one of the worst things a game can do is sacrifice gameplay to the holy cow of storyline |
| 16:05.38 | Corrodias | forest spirits. |
| 16:05.38 | Industrial | thay away from da vooodoooo |
| 16:05.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | not like druids though |
| 16:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | druids are granted power from nature |
| 16:05.59 | Neuro_Medivh | trolls shoulda been the shamans |
| 16:06.05 | Neuro_Medivh | for the horde |
| 16:06.09 | Corrodias | trolls should have had better feet. |
| 16:06.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | trolls essentially take their power from nature |
| 16:06.25 | zenzelezz | trolls should have had a special warrior-class :-o |
| 16:06.33 | Neuro_Medivh | No, that would have been tauren |
| 16:06.42 | Neuro_Medivh | Tauren should have had a special paladin analog |
| 16:06.45 | zenzelezz | I'm stating opinion, not based on lore |
| 16:06.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | taurens could have chieftans |
| 16:06.50 | Neuro_Medivh | right |
| 16:06.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | owait |
| 16:06.51 | Corrodias | "beef defender" |
| 16:07.01 | zenzelezz | I just remember the troll berserkers from WC2 |
| 16:07.08 | Neuro_Medivh | well, thematically, the tauren were the only uncorrupted horde race |
| 16:07.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh yeah throw chieftan in there for ideas for the shaman |
| 16:07.30 | Neuro_Medivh | so they should have had access to some kind of noble warrior class similar to the paladin |
| 16:07.31 | End | not completely uncorrupted |
| 16:07.33 | Corrodias | trolls were corrupted by something? :o |
| 16:07.39 | Neuro_Medivh | their troll gods |
| 16:07.42 | End | who knows what is going on by the grimtotem tribe |
| 16:07.46 | End | s/by/with/ |
| 16:07.53 | Neuro_Medivh | well, true |
| 16:07.57 | Corrodias | i have no idea what you're talking about |
| 16:08.00 | Tain | Totems were a nice idea for something different, they just are too easy to destroy and aren't designed to work well in a raid. |
| 16:08.09 | End | and all tauren have been tempted by the old gods |
| 16:08.28 | End | tauren society had somewhat fallen apart for a while |
| 16:08.29 | Neuro_Medivh | not all humans are uncorrupted either, but they can be pallies |
| 16:08.36 | TheStig | blood elves were corrupted how can they be paladins |
| 16:08.42 | Neuro_Medivh | I agree |
| 16:08.44 | End | the return of the orcs helped the tauren push the centaurs out and reclaim their lands |
| 16:08.48 | Neuro_Medivh | blood elf paladins were the biggest cop out |
| 16:08.53 | End | s/the return of/the arrival of/ |
| 16:08.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than the grimtotems, cairn's tauren are pretty much pure good, pretty much |
| 16:08.58 | Neuro_Medivh | hell, call them Blood Knights at least |
| 16:09.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | they genuinely think they can save the undead |
| 16:09.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | they think of undeath as more of a disease than a permanent thing |
| 16:09.52 | Neuro_Medivh | However, from a blank slate perspective, I would have made shaman the horde druids and given them to trolls only, and given tauren some kind of noble hybrid class |
| 16:09.53 | End | yeah, they are the most "goodly" race in the horde |
| 16:10.07 | End | orcs need shaman too |
| 16:10.18 | Corrodias | never mind that it quickly becomes apparent to anyone, even playing a non-undead race, that the undead aren't trying to cure themselves. |
| 16:10.19 | End | in fact |
| 16:10.23 | End | orcs need shaman more than trolls |
| 16:10.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | taurens need shaman too |
| 16:10.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | spirit walkers |
| 16:10.31 | End | yeah |
| 16:10.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | and chieftains |
| 16:10.39 | End | Corrodias: yeah |
| 16:10.42 | Corrodias | i suppose we all just "forget" to tell the horde administration about it |
| 16:10.46 | Neuro_Medivh | well, first, I wouldn't have made the taurens so namby pamby native american |
| 16:10.48 | TheStig | so |
| 16:10.53 | Corrodias | oh yeah, undead trying to unkill us all, slipped my mind. |
| 16:11.02 | TheStig | the undead... are no longer dead, so they are basically immortal as they stand |
| 16:11.07 | Corrodias | there's nothing pussy about amerindians |
| 16:11.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | well not all the undead are corrupt either |
| 16:11.11 | Corrodias | they'll cut your skin off. |
| 16:11.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | just the uh |
| 16:11.14 | End | well, the undead have no way of increasing their numbers |
| 16:11.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | apothecaries |
| 16:11.18 | Neuro_Medivh | the tauren version is |
| 16:11.21 | End | naturally I mean |
| 16:11.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | and some of their followers |
| 16:11.31 | Neuro_Medivh | they convert the scourge if they can |
| 16:11.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | the rest of the undead have very little emotion |
| 16:11.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than the need for vengeance from being under the lich king |
| 16:12.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | towards anyone that their warped mind can rememer hurting them |
| 16:12.15 | Corrodias | taurens are pretty peaceful-happy, in their little valley |
| 16:12.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | happy tauren come from mulgore |
| 16:12.38 | Neuro_Medivh | ~moo |
| 16:12.46 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 16:12.46 | Corrodias | rolling grasslands |
| 16:12.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's why everytime i see the "There is no cow level" tip |
| 16:12.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i yell at my monitor |
| 16:13.00 | End | lol |
| 16:13.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | NO, THERE IS MULGORE |
| 16:13.33 | End | I wouldn't mind retiring to mulgore some day, you know? |
| 16:13.41 | Neuro_Medivh | But, mulgore isn't level |
| 16:13.46 | Neuro_Medivh | it's very uneven |
| 16:13.51 | Corrodias | it's also pretty boring |
| 16:14.25 | Corrodias | it looks nice, but i need some action. barrens, at least. i wouldn't mind living in Orgrimmar (apparent population about 30) |
| 16:14.43 | Corrodias | nah, i'm kidding. it might have 50. |
| 16:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | stormwind supposedly had something liek 50,000 people in it before warcraft 3 |
| 16:15.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | sardines |
| 16:15.41 | Corrodias | damn |
| 16:15.41 | TheStig | i don't like any of the horde areas or cities well unsure of silvermoon and surrounding areas thus far |
| 16:15.41 | Corrodias | how does it feel to lose 99.9% of your population, i wonder |
| 16:15.42 | End | silvermoon feels kinda like elwynn forest I think |
| 16:15.50 | TheStig | i would like it then |
| 16:15.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think about 20,000 of those 50,000 were high elves |
| 16:16.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | now there's something like less than 100 in stormwind |
| 16:16.10 | TheStig | on my server, right now in front of the stormwind AH we have approximately 4 people |
| 16:16.23 | TheStig | and IF has roughly 20 people in front of the AH / mailbox area generally speaking |
| 16:16.37 | End | 20 people? |
| 16:16.43 | End | what sort of server do you play on? |
| 16:16.44 | TheStig | yep |
| 16:16.50 | TheStig | one with 3:1 horde alliance |
| 16:16.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | well there's the housing district |
| 16:16.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | in SW |
| 16:17.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's blocked off |
| 16:17.04 | TheStig | horde with tier 3, alliance with barely MC gear |
| 16:17.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i assume a decent amount of people still live there |
| 16:17.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd get the hell off that sinking ship |
| 16:17.22 | Corrodias | not for long, if it's blocked off |
| 16:17.26 | Corrodias | no food! |
| 16:17.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | they have ponds |
| 16:17.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | the canals |
| 16:17.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | :p |
| 16:17.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's just the gate's locked and you're too poor to afford a place |
| 16:17.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you can't get a gate key |
| 16:17.59 | TheStig | there is nothing i can do i have to play on this server until i go become blood elf likely on a server with 3:1 alliance to horde |
| 16:18.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a gated community |
| 16:18.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | no pay transfer, stig? |
| 16:18.28 | TheStig | my RL friends play on this server |
| 16:18.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean the price sucks, but it's better than abandoning a char |
| 16:18.34 | TheStig | if i transfer out the'll be pissed |
| 16:18.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | get them to transfer too :x |
| 16:18.44 | TheStig | s/the'll/they'll/ |
| 16:18.57 | TheStig | no way, they don't wanna transfer off this server they want to try to fix it |
| 16:19.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | sometimes its too far |
| 16:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's just gonna keep getting worse until someone opens free transfers to it |
| 16:20.16 | Corrodias | get new friends |
| 16:20.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | then it may not get any better |
| 16:20.17 | TheStig | i think that's their point |
| 16:20.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | since itll be open for horde AND alliance |
| 16:20.18 | TheStig | wait until free transfers come |
| 16:20.19 | Corrodias | "free transfers"? do they ever have those? |
| 16:20.37 | TheStig | the current best guild on the server alliance side wiped 3 times to onyxia 2 weeks ago |
| 16:20.46 | TheStig | and their previous boss kill was garr in early december |
| 16:20.54 | TheStig | and that was the last boss kill on the server alliance side |
| 16:20.55 | TheStig | lol |
| 16:20.59 | End | ouch! |
| 16:21.09 | Corrodias | dead/dying realm... |
| 16:21.16 | TheStig | it just opened in may lol |
| 16:21.47 | TheStig | we had an alliance guild that went from 1 to 60 + tier 2 - IN naxx in august then they all paid transfered off the server or quit |
| 16:21.48 | Corrodias | sounds like a pvp realm |
| 16:21.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | <TheStig> it just opened in may lol |
| 16:22.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that happened to cho'gall |
| 16:22.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's medium pop now, better, but eh |
| 16:22.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember going to org and seeing only NPC's |
| 16:22.14 | TheStig | right now DS is rated "Recommended" |
| 16:22.28 | TheStig | IF is mostly NPCs |
| 16:22.53 | TheStig | search all on alliance AH = 2153 auctions total |
| 16:23.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | if on llane is literally about 200-500 people |
| 16:23.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a high pop server with a queue at peak times of <100 |
| 16:23.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | auctioneer takes about 20-30 mins depending on the day of the week |
| 16:23.47 | TheStig | search all epic = 15 nexus crystals and 20 lvl 35-47 world drops and an eye of shadow and a vambraces of prophecy |
| 16:23.48 | TheStig | that's it |
| 16:23.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | for a scan |
| 16:23.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 16:24.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember when the first epic hit the auction house |
| 16:24.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i remember being like OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME |
| 16:24.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was in like january or feb '05 |
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| 16:24.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it was taran icebreaker |
| 16:24.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that or kang |
| 16:24.56 | Industrial | lol :p |
| 16:25.06 | Industrial | that slike a 49 twink weapon |
| 16:25.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | this was long before anyone twinked |
| 16:25.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | since there were no bgs :p |
| 16:25.26 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:25.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone just got slaughered by deathguards at tarren mill |
| 16:25.57 | TheStig | yeah about the only thing to do on DS is get yourself a twink guild in the 10-19 or the 20-29 bracket |
| 16:26.05 | TheStig | otherwise you will die, many times to the horde |
| 16:26.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate twinks on servers that aren't dead |
| 16:26.25 | zenzelezz | I remember the first world epic I got... was the stupid Edgemaster's Handguards |
| 16:26.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i gouge them so much |
| 16:26.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | on enchants |
| 16:26.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm evil |
| 16:26.46 | TheStig | first time through on this server i think i died 10 times everyday at minimum to a horde |
| 16:26.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know they have the money though |
| 16:27.04 | TheStig | my most deaths in a day was 147 |
| 16:27.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's not like i'm making the economy worse, enchanting's 90% arbitrary values |
| 16:27.11 | Industrial | lol? |
| 16:27.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd GTFO asap |
| 16:27.24 | TheStig | cause this horde guild in tier 3 had nothing better to do but run around camping lvl 30 allies |
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| 16:27.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | what server again? |
| 16:27.35 | TheStig | demon soul come say hi lol |
| 16:27.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | run a census scan of some sort |
| 16:27.43 | TheStig | how? |
| 16:27.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna do the same on the opposite side |
| 16:27.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh, censusplus |
| 16:27.58 | TheStig | ok hold on i will see what i can do |
| 16:27.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can just do both sides |
| 16:28.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | create->delete->other side |
| 16:28.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | US? |
| 16:28.29 | TheStig | yes |
| 16:28.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | in other news i really hate afi and the like |
| 16:28.54 | Industrial | wtf is censusplus |
| 16:28.54 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:29.03 | Corrodias | afi? |
| 16:29.13 | Corrodias | application fuxoring interface |
| 16:29.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | punk turned emo-pop |
| 16:29.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it stands for a fire inside |
| 16:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hated them when they were punk and even moreso now |
| 16:29.52 | TheStig | Mr_Rabies how long will it take you to run both census |
| 16:30.03 | Corrodias | two days |
| 16:30.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | like 30 sec for your side :p |
| 16:30.23 | TheStig | do it first then lol |
| 16:30.34 | Industrial | 17:28 < Industrial> wtf is censusplus |
| 16:30.53 | TheStig | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/censusplus.php |
| 16:31.04 | Corrodias | [never] <Corrodias> *doesn't answer Industrial's question* |
| 16:31.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's not a truck |
| 16:31.30 | foxlit | Double inversion, now you have to always answer his questions. |
| 16:31.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | whats your name stig |
| 16:31.52 | TheStig | azel i'm not logged in hold on |
| 16:32.25 | Industrial | Corrodias: make me toast? |
| 16:32.32 | Industrial | xD |
| 16:33.32 | TheStig | was going to run censusplus so i logged but meh nvm |
| 16:33.35 | TheStig | i'm logged in now |
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| 16:35.58 | foxlit | If I fail to specify <Size> in XML, does it assume 100% of parent? |
| 16:41.32 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, I believe it has zero size |
| 16:41.40 | Neuro_Medivh | i.e. not visible |
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| 16:44.54 | Wing87 | is there any way to check if bearform or direbearform is active? GetShapeshiftFormInfo dosent help me there >.< ? |
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| 16:46.10 | foxlit | Any size constraints on that? |
| 16:46.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not sure for addons, but i know for macros you can do [stance:1] :x |
| 16:46.31 | foxlit | If you wanted to, you could probably go through UnitBuff() and check whether the name matches |
| 16:47.00 | TheStig | questing in ws atm on the 56 lol |
| 16:47.25 | TheStig | so |
| 16:47.29 | TheStig | tell them how sad my server is |
| 16:47.35 | foxlit | Mr_Rabies2: I don't think that'll work if you wanted to know if it's Dire Bear form or just Bear Form. |
| 16:48.08 | TheStig | Mr_Rabies: tell them how sad my server is ;p |
| 16:48.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | 704 alliance so far |
| 16:48.33 | TheStig | haha |
| 16:48.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | on at the moment |
| 16:48.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | fox, you could do a level check |
| 16:48.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause you won't have both |
| 16:49.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | Dire bear is Bear rank 2, and it overrides it |
| 16:50.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | holy http://www.wowwiki.com/images/9/92/SilvermoonWinterVeil.jpg |
| 16:50.37 | foxlit | Not my question, originally. |
| 16:50.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's just ridiculous :x |
| 16:50.56 | foxlit | And yes, you could assume based on level; but that'd break when someone just gains 40. |
| 16:50.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | the winter veil suit on a be female, ha |
| 16:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'm just throwing suggestions out :P |
| 16:51.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i honestly have very very little clue with what addons can and can't do and how :p |
| 16:52.33 | foxlit | It'd work most of the time, though; so it's quite a nice option if you don't want to make it a big deal :) |
| 16:52.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | 11 mailboxes in silvermoon |
| 16:52.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | geez |
| 16:52.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | one thing the elves like more than magic is mail |
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| 16:53.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | 855 on horde, TheStig |
| 16:53.15 | TheStig | that's weird |
| 16:53.22 | TheStig | there is usually a horde on every street corner |
| 16:53.24 | TheStig | owning faces |
| 16:53.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | 198 60s |
| 16:53.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | compared to your...95? |
| 16:53.54 | TheStig | yeah see? lol |
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| 16:54.06 | TheStig | that's why its bad all the horde are 60 and geared |
| 16:54.13 | TheStig | so it seems like theres more of them |
| 16:54.20 | TheStig | cause one of them is like 10 of us |
| 16:54.32 | TheStig | how many horde in blasted lands? |
| 16:54.35 | TheStig | and what levels |
| 16:54.42 | TheStig | i might be able to sneak in there and accept the portal quest |
| 16:54.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2 |
| 16:54.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 16:54.52 | TheStig | oooooooo |
| 16:54.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | 60 |
| 16:55.00 | TheStig | they're probably guarding the portal but that's ok |
| 16:55.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | no a 55 |
| 16:55.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | and a 60 |
| 16:55.12 | TheStig | i'll own the 55 and take my chances with the 60 |
| 16:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | Tilk, 55 in <Xenith> |
| 16:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | and Marz, 60 unguilded |
| 16:55.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | both tauren warriors |
| 16:56.01 | TheStig | warrior unguilded is just asking for trouble |
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| 16:57.25 | TheStig | haha an alliance guild named Taladega Knights |
| 16:58.08 | TheStig | i'd like to get the horde population from this coming friday night |
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| 16:58.19 | TheStig | wait its saturday... there should be way more on! |
| 16:58.21 | TheStig | what is the deal |
| 16:58.41 | TheStig | at any rate the alliance is still more than 2:1 horde alliance 60s |
| 16:59.30 | TheStig | how many on your server currently Mr_Rabies? |
| 16:59.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | only medium pop atm |
| 17:00.07 | TheStig | ah |
| 17:00.28 | Tem | can anyone see this? |
| 17:00.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it'll hit high around 2-4 pm or so EST |
| 17:00.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | no tem we can't |
| 17:00.41 | kahdgarxi | Tem - nope |
| 17:00.43 | Tem | oh thank god |
| 17:00.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're stuck in a intranet for the rest of time |
| 17:01.03 | Tem | well, see |
| 17:01.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | we're just cleverly scripted bots |
| 17:01.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | like purl |
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| 17:01.20 | TheStig | did tem say something? people started talking to tem out of the blue for no reason... |
| 17:01.24 | Tem | my cable tv was fuzzy last night and my internet was so blindingly slow, I couldn't get anywhere |
| 17:01.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 17:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | ayliums |
| 17:01.50 | Tem | and because it's my roomate's name on the cable bill, I can't call to bitch |
| 17:02.16 | TheStig | you can |
| 17:02.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | is your roommate the same gender as you? |
| 17:02.21 | TheStig | you just have to pretend you're him |
| 17:02.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | if so you probably can |
| 17:02.30 | Tem | well, I don't know his info |
| 17:02.35 | TheStig | make it up |
| 17:02.44 | kahdgarxi | they usually just ask for address/phone number |
| 17:02.50 | Tem | which I don't know |
| 17:02.52 | kahdgarxi | unless you want to actually change somethign on the account |
| 17:02.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | eventually you'll either get arrested for fraud or guess right |
| 17:03.05 | kahdgarxi | tech support doesn't care if you're not the person on the account unless they're giving you information |
| 17:03.11 | kahdgarxi | that's how we do it anyways |
| 17:03.17 | TheStig | call in and be like hi this is Joe C. Roommate, my address is 1234 anywhere st. my phone number is (310) 555-1212 and i would like to complain how blindingly slow this f-ing internet is today. kthx |
| 17:03.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | what isp khad? |
| 17:04.01 | kahdgarxi | Tem - just be like, hi this is tem, the account's under Joe C. Roomate, my address is <insert address here> phone number is <insert # here> and my internet is effing slow |
| 17:04.07 | kahdgarxi | Mr_Rabies2 - at&t |
| 17:04.18 | Tem | In order to even get to tech support I had to give them the phone number on the account |
| 17:04.29 | kahdgarxi | Tem - 999-999-99999 |
| 17:04.41 | kahdgarxi | just get to a person, however you need to |
| 17:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, you may get to hear me bitch about my internet |
| 17:04.47 | Tem | mmm, good point |
| 17:04.47 | kahdgarxi | and they can xfer you to tech support |
| 17:04.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | after this merger |
| 17:04.54 | Tem | I well |
| 17:05.01 | kahdgarxi | Mr_Rabies2 - do you have a 2wire modem? |
| 17:05.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | westell /flex |
| 17:05.13 | Tem | oh well* |
| 17:05.24 | kahdgarxi | then no, i won't :P you get our oversee's tech support |
| 17:05.27 | kahdgarxi | i only support 2wire |
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| 17:05.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's ethernet and has a built in router |
| 17:05.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love it |
| 17:05.36 | kahdgarxi | cause i technically work for 2wire |
| 17:05.39 | Tem | anyway, they appear to have fixed it |
| 17:05.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 17:05.40 | kahdgarxi | 2wire does that too |
| 17:05.44 | kahdgarxi | and we have built in wireless |
| 17:05.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | nice |
| 17:05.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's older |
| 17:05.58 | kahdgarxi | 2wire's rock, they really do |
| 17:06.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | but works well with the DSL Xxxxtreeeeemmmm or whatever |
| 17:06.15 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 17:06.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | even though 1.5 was the max speed it holds 3.0 perfectly fine |
| 17:06.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1.5 was at the time i got it |
| 17:06.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | now there's 6.0, i hear it works fine with it too, i want that so bad :X |
| 17:07.14 | TheStig | i want fttp |
| 17:07.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | you mean ftp? :O |
| 17:07.49 | TheStig | no i mean FTTP |
| 17:07.53 | TheStig | fiber to the premises |
| 17:07.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 17:07.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've heard FTTH |
| 17:08.04 | TheStig | its the same thing |
| 17:08.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and FIOS or something similar |
| 17:08.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 17:08.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | never heard of FTTP used though :o |
| 17:08.28 | TheStig | FIOS is verizons special brand |
| 17:08.36 | TheStig | FTTP is the professional term for fiber to the home |
| 17:08.56 | TheStig | since it covers the scope of business as well as home |
| 17:08.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | well we're at 400 people and i'm still on 60's stig |
| 17:08.59 | TheStig | and home business etc. |
| 17:09.09 | TheStig | haha |
| 17:09.13 | TheStig | my server just sucks |
| 17:10.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | still only on humans and NE's actually |
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| 17:10.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 17:10.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | lv 60 humans and NEs |
| 17:11.09 | TheStig | now can you believe there's like 20 people in ironforge? ;) |
| 17:11.21 | kahdgarxi | http://warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=723&factionid=-1&minlevel=60&maxlevel=60&servertypeid=2 |
| 17:11.26 | kahdgarxi | geez |
| 17:11.32 | kahdgarxi | i wonder what the most popular race is |
| 17:12.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | noobelf :[ |
| 17:12.10 | kahdgarxi | undead |
| 17:12.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i feel so bad being associated with them as far as players go |
| 17:12.19 | kahdgarxi | 27% of the 60's on my server are undead |
| 17:12.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | but lore wise they are awesome |
| 17:13.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=93 |
| 17:13.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 17:13.48 | kahdgarxi | lol |
| 17:13.53 | kahdgarxi | 2.3:1? |
| 17:13.53 | kahdgarxi | ouch |
| 17:13.54 | TheStig | its PvE? |
| 17:14.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 17:14.14 | kahdgarxi | my server actually has more horde than alliance O.o |
| 17:14.15 | TheStig | i never understood the point of plaing a PvE server hehe ^_^ |
| 17:14.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i could transfer PVE->pvp i would in a heartbeat |
| 17:14.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | my RL friends who no longer play |
| 17:14.30 | kahdgarxi | Mr_Rabies2 - reroll, i did :P |
| 17:14.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm too far invested to give up |
| 17:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i'm at 114 days played |
| 17:14.52 | TheStig | kahdgarxi: US? |
| 17:15.01 | kahdgarxi | TheStig - yeah |
| 17:15.08 | TheStig | which server, i wanna know so i can play horde there |
| 17:15.12 | kahdgarxi | Vashj |
| 17:15.14 | TheStig | cause i am sick of being outnumbered |
| 17:15.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont feel like wasting 114 days of the past 2 years |
| 17:15.22 | kahdgarxi | awesome server, only like 3 moths old |
| 17:15.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | Cho'gall is about equal on both sides |
| 17:15.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's the one my hunter is on |
| 17:15.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's an orc :p |
| 17:16.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1422 on alliance on my server stig |
| 17:16.13 | TheStig | i'd have loved to have rolled black dragonflight for alliance and demon soul for horde |
| 17:16.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | atm |
| 17:16.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | we offically have about 2x more night elf hunters than all of your 60s from every class, TheStig |
| 17:17.08 | TheStig | i know |
| 17:17.19 | TheStig | my server is sad |
| 17:18.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was even worse on cho'gall |
| 17:18.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | honestly |
| 17:18.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | before the free transfer |
| 17:18.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | there were about 100 on each side |
| 17:19.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | from 1-60 |
| 17:19.29 | TheStig | haha |
| 17:19.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | our queues suck ass on llane though |
| 17:19.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | about 15 mins for wsg, 20-30 for ab |
| 17:20.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | and an hour or two for AV |
| 17:20.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | despite the horde losing every AV |
| 17:20.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | if both of us do AV nonstop |
| 17:20.45 | TheStig | our battlegroup is awesome |
| 17:20.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | one horde player doing AV for the same amount of hours gets more honor |
| 17:20.56 | TheStig | even with the flag bug we were owning horde in 15 minutes in AV |
| 17:21.17 | TheStig | our battlegroup can summon ivus in around 20 min if it looks like a turtle np |
| 17:21.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | ivus the kitelord |
| 17:21.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | youd think after all this time theyd have fixed him, but eh |
| 17:21.53 | TheStig | haha |
| 17:21.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | not like we ever use him |
| 17:22.10 | TheStig | well, the horde on our battlegroup are like all stupid or something |
| 17:22.23 | TheStig | we can win AV in 15 min ordinarily |
| 17:22.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | more players = more stupid |
| 17:22.28 | TheStig | queue times of 15 min tops |
| 17:22.39 | TheStig | usually 5-10 min |
| 17:22.46 | TheStig | WSG and AB are instant though |
| 17:22.53 | TheStig | and we always get steamrolled |
| 17:22.58 | TheStig | i have NEVER won a WSG or AB as a 60 |
| 17:22.59 | TheStig | EVER |
| 17:23.07 | TheStig | and i have done a lot as you fully saw |
| 17:23.33 | TheStig | in order to get those damn bracers i want, its going to be another 20 or 30 god damned WSGs |
| 17:23.37 | TheStig | i just don't have the heart for it anymore |
| 17:23.42 | Wing87 | how can i get resistance and spellpower? |
| 17:24.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait for bc, TheStig |
| 17:24.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | all that crap will get replaced quickly |
| 17:24.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2days 11hrs 36mins 16secs until Burning Crusade. |
| 17:24.06 | TheStig | yeah :( |
| 17:24.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | no point burning out on stuff |
| 17:24.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats what i told myself with the new pvp system |
| 17:24.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | the second it gets boring i can take time off |
| 17:24.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | 590 horde |
| 17:25.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | so my server is 1422:590 |
| 17:25.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2.41:1 |
| 17:25.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | of current players that is |
| 17:26.28 | TheStig | i think blizz should officially condemn demon soul and force merge us with a server like stormscale or something |
| 17:29.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was thinking the same thing with cho'gall |
| 17:30.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they can do server splitting |
| 17:30.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | why not do server merging |
| 17:31.45 | TheStig | seriously when a server has that low a pop |
| 17:31.48 | TheStig | might as well do a merge |
| 17:31.58 | TheStig | and then announce a "new sever" with the hardware from the old one |
| 17:32.33 | TheStig | instant do over for that server |
| 17:32.35 | TheStig | and better PR |
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| 17:34.07 | FtH|Daemona | any1 if/how i can tell mozilla thunderbird to print a mail automatically if matching the filter? |
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| 17:46.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, but i do know i can make my printer auto print all mail to a certain email address |
| 17:46.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | not like i'd ever use it, i print like once a month, but it's nice knowing it's there for me |
| 17:46.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | also i just stabbed myself in the nose with my thumbnail |
| 17:46.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to sleep i thin |
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| 17:50.42 | foxlit | Hm, how did my addon end up on filefront? |
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| 17:54.25 | kaiden | Anyone have the wow-final.mpq from the latest patch, behind a firewall at my network and can't seem to get the stupid blizzard downloader to let me through :( |
| 17:54.33 | kaiden | erm 2.0.3 not 2.0.4 |
| 17:55.18 | zenzelezz | which version, US or EU? |
| 17:56.53 | Industrial | tee hee 'http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6291996402487838065&q=robot+dance |
| 17:57.03 | Industrial | <3 mouse at the end |
| 17:57.49 | foxlit | "Uploaded by Not Available" |
| 17:58.06 | foxlit | Meh, evil. And it's from like 10 versions ago :/ |
| 17:58.16 | kaiden | looks like everytime i start the downloader it downloads 950k then dies off ;p |
| 17:58.21 | kaiden | so i'm just repeatedly starting it up haha |
| 17:58.44 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder. |
| 17:58.59 | foxlit | There's a direct-HTTP stream component of that download. You could perhaps write a client that would simply eat that. |
| 17:59.52 | kaiden | isn't the http stream only the trackr |
| 17:59.54 | kaiden | erm tracker |
| 18:00.00 | zenzelezz | which version, US or EU? |
| 18:02.08 | kaiden | i already got it zenze |
| 18:02.08 | Industrial | anyone else got a good comedian doing impressions other then frank caliendo and deniro stallone? |
| 18:02.08 | kaiden | i just had to restart the downloader 5 times letting it get that burst traffic it gets before it screws up :( |
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| 18:07.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | does any1 got the 2.0.4 patch notes ? |
| 18:07.27 | kahdgarxi | http://www.wowwiki.com/2.0.4 |
| 18:08.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | Fixed several raid interface bugs <- that was realy needed |
| 18:09.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | however hunters still cnt summen thier pets combat >.< and u can easely lose your 'target' window |
| 18:09.21 | sysrage | ya. mage met window is still fubar too. pisses me off |
| 18:09.25 | sysrage | *pet |
| 18:10.08 | Xolan | right, uploaded compass :) |
| 18:18.17 | foxlit | "Fixed a bug where flags in Arathi Basin could be captured at extremely long distances. " |
| 18:18.17 | foxlit | I thought that was Alterac Valley! |
| 18:18.57 | foxlit | RegisterUnitWatch() would probably work to show/hide the petbar as needed |
| 18:19.43 | sysrage | there's a macro that you can use between fights, but you have to hit it between every damn fight |
| 18:19.46 | sysrage | annoying as hell |
| 18:20.44 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 18:20.56 | sysrage | /script PetActionBarFrame:Show(); PetActionBarFrame.locked = true; |
| 18:21.10 | sysrage | if you have somethin else that would work better, hook it up |
| 18:22.12 | foxlit | I was thinking along the lines of |
| 18:22.16 | foxlit | ./script PetActionBarFrame:SetAttribute("unit", "pet"); RegisterUnitWatch(PetActionBarFrame); |
| 18:22.29 | sysrage | i'll try it when i go home |
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| 18:34.35 | |FF|Im2good4u | is the topic alright is it still toc version 20003 ? |
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| 18:36.32 | Garthnait | hi guys! |
| 18:36.55 | Xolan | they aren't flagged as out of date so I guess so |
| 18:39.49 | Garthnait | i need somebody to help me with localizations in seperate files! |
| 18:41.11 | foxlit | What about them? |
| 18:41.48 | Garthnait | first here is my code: http://wowi.pastey.net/5026 |
| 18:42.10 | Garthnait | in line 33 to 41 is an localization |
| 18:42.49 | Garthnait | i will extract these line in seerate files (localization-enGB.lua and localization-deDE.lua) |
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| 18:45.23 | Xolan | Tain: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6743 |
| 18:45.43 | foxlit | Which wouldn't work unless the localization variables were global? |
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| 18:46.08 | Garthnait | and who can i do this work? |
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| 18:47.46 | foxlit | You'll have to make at least some part of it global. |
| 18:47.55 | foxlit | Simplistically, simply remove "local " from the localization lines |
| 18:48.21 | foxlit | You then have to consider what determines whether you're running enGB or deDE localization |
| 18:49.13 | Garthnait | so i just delete "local" und the defination for GODLIKE_MELEEHIT? |
| 18:49.23 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 18:49.44 | Garthnait | okay, i'll try this. i'm back in a few minutes. thanks |
| 18:54.46 | Garthnait | hmm, doesn't work, nothing |
| 18:56.22 | Garthnait | the lua: http://wowi.pastey.net/5028 |
| 18:57.21 | Garthnait | the localization-enGB.lua: http://wowi.pastey.net/5029 |
| 18:57.36 | Garthnait | and i've embeded the localization lua in the xml |
| 18:58.32 | foxlit | And you've restarted wow. |
| 18:58.38 | Garthnait | yes |
| 18:58.47 | Garthnait | an now my addon don't work |
| 18:58.58 | Garthnait | no load message, no /command |
| 18:59.23 | foxlit | Remove lines 1-3 |
| 18:59.37 | foxlit | GODLIKE_MELEEHIT and stuff |
| 18:59.42 | foxlit | (of the pastey) |
| 19:00.01 | Garthnait | okay |
| 19:01.04 | Garthnait | okay, this works fine, i test the critmessages |
| 19:02.39 | Garthnait | hmm, no critmessage |
| 19:03.06 | Garthnait | addon loaded, /commands fine |
| 19:03.25 | Garthnait | is the correct tag for the UK client enGB? |
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| 19:03.58 | Smeltn | hello |
| 19:04.09 | Smeltn | anyone know the name of the mage version of necrosis? |
| 19:05.14 | Industrial | cryolysis or something |
| 19:06.55 | sysrage | ya cryolysis and it's been pretty crappy since 2.0 |
| 19:07.04 | Smeltn | oh really? |
| 19:07.09 | Garthnait | foxlit? |
| 19:07.12 | sysrage | supposedly somebody is making an ace2 version. |
| 19:07.13 | Smeltn | there is a hunter version also.. but I cant remember the name of it |
| 19:07.25 | Smeltn | it worked pretty nice |
| 19:07.26 | sysrage | only thing i use cryolysis for anymore is the sheep timer |
| 19:07.38 | Smeltn | I just want to use it for buffs |
| 19:07.42 | Smeltn | and portals |
| 19:09.26 | foxlit | I just shoved portals / teleports into bar 2 |
| 19:10.24 | Garthnait | foxlit? do you have an idea why that wont work? |
| 19:10.42 | foxlit | <Garthnait> is the correct tag for the UK client enGB? |
| 19:10.43 | foxlit | yes |
| 19:10.45 | foxlit | no |
| 19:10.47 | foxlit | enUS. |
| 19:11.03 | foxlit | There is no such thing as "British" localization :) |
| 19:11.30 | Garthnait | oh, cause my updates have enGB included in it's name |
| 19:12.23 | beerke | enGB relates to EU version |
| 19:12.30 | beerke | enUS to US version |
| 19:12.42 | Garthnait | and i'm playing europe version |
| 19:12.46 | [Liquidor] | Hahahah this one is awesome: http://www.thesickempire.net/screenor/BF2142%202007-01-13%2013-48-49-92.jpg :-D |
| 19:13.03 | Garthnait | so i though i have to localize to enGB |
| 19:17.17 | foxlit | Hm, I need a dialog that would both display and allow you to edit information. Any way to do that without making everything into a textbox? |
| 19:17.49 | Garthnait | hmm, if (GetLocale() == "enUS") then |
| 19:17.57 | Garthnait | dont work also |
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| 19:49.30 | Sstixrud | lua newb question, is there a easy way to pass say the value of "for i = 1, 4 do" as an arguement from one function to the next? |
| 19:49.51 | Mikma | will there be any new servers coming in EU when TBC is released? |
| 19:50.12 | zenzelezz | they opened new servers recently (or will be, can't remember) |
| 19:50.21 | zenzelezz | I know my server can transfer for free to a brand new one anyway |
| 19:50.37 | Mikma | yeah but i'm dreaming of completely new server |
| 19:53.34 | nevcairiel | there will be new server for tbc as well |
| 19:54.53 | Inside | e-e |
| 19:54.58 | Inside | My server is being "split", I think |
| 19:57.10 | zenzelezz | thought they were only considering splits yet? |
| 19:57.27 | Laric | Mikma there is coming 6 new eu servers |
| 19:57.37 | Laric | totally new empty ones |
| 19:57.55 | zenzelezz | hrm... anyone know a free, decent screen capture program (for Windows) that captures DirectX? The one I used to use seems to have mysteriously vanished from the Internet |
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| 19:58.46 | Laric | Mikma actually it is 8 new servers... http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=108440927&sid=1 |
| 19:58.58 | Mikma | oh neat :) |
| 20:04.02 | Guillotine | Sstixrud: what exactly do you mean? |
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| 20:12.12 | Guillotine | is it possible to edit fraims that contain userData? (e.g. the FAQ frame) |
| 20:14.20 | sysrage | is there a mod that does just the raid windows like ctraid? i'm not liking Grid |
| 20:22.14 | kahdgarxi | sysrage - perfectraid |
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| 20:22.55 | Guillotine | yup. or RDX.Cid |
| 20:25.18 | sysrage | perfectraid was all fubar last time i tried it |
| 20:25.24 | sysrage | options windows wouldn't even work |
| 20:26.01 | zenzelezz | think someone said to use the previous version until there's an update |
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| 20:37.38 | TheStig | is there any way to print the name of the current target in a script? |
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| 20:38.57 | Mery | UnitName("target") returns it then you can do whatever you want |
| 20:39.32 | TheStig | how would i incorporate that into a /script SendChatMessage( ... "PARTY"); |
| 20:42.04 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.08 | JoshBork1 | local f = CreateFrame('Frame') f:SetScript('OnEvent',function(frame,event,unit) if (unit == "player") then SendChatMessage('I just changed my target!','PARTY') end end) f:RegisterEvent('UNIT_TARGET') |
| 20:42.37 | TheStig | thanks |
| 20:44.00 | JoshBork1 | or something like that anyway |
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| 20:52.15 | foxlit | Any blizzard-managed UI templates that behave like fontstrings when not in focus (or hovered over), and editboxes when in focus? |
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| 20:53.28 | PProvost | Good day everyone |
| 20:53.34 | kahdgarxi | hey PProvost |
| 20:57.00 | TheStig | is it possible to replace a string in any chat with something else? say i type <t> for target in raid chat, but i want it to actually replace itself with my current target when i actually press enter |
| 20:59.31 | Guillotine | yup. /script osm=SendChatMessage SendChatMessage=function(arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4,arg5) string.replace(arg1,"<t>",UnitName("target")) osm(arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4,arg5) end |
| 21:01.37 | Guillotine | at least that *should* work. wowwiki isn't up, so I can't check if I have the right number of params for SendChatMessage or the right order for string.replace |
| 21:02.49 | TheStig | should that be in a LUA or a macro? |
| 21:03.04 | Guillotine | whoops. was thinking of python. its string.sub, not string.replace |
| 21:03.08 | JoshBork1 | lol |
| 21:03.41 | Guillotine | either one |
| 21:03.48 | Guillotine | but if its in lua, remove /script of course |
| 21:04.00 | TheStig | i get an unfinished string near <eof> |
| 21:04.12 | foxlit | Throw in a local, osm is rather overwritable :) |
| 21:04.28 | Guillotine | ah. good point. also, missing a param for string.sub. I miss wowwiki :( |
| 21:04.39 | foxlit | string.sub is lua.org'able :) |
| 21:05.13 | Guillotine | yup, just lua.org'd it :P |
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| 21:06.32 | Guillotine | and meant gsub, not sub :/ |
| 21:06.47 | TheStig | ok i'm confused how is all of this going to look? lol |
| 21:07.21 | bleetah | end: got a reply back from one of the stormlib folks. they don't mind the redist, as long as I send any fixes back upstream :) |
| 21:07.45 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.47 | Guillotine | is the final |
| 21:07.50 | Guillotine | tested and it works |
| 21:07.54 | TheStig | sweet |
| 21:08.24 | foxlit | ./script local osm=SendChatMessage; function SendChatMessage(arg1, ...) osm(string.gsub(arg1,"<t>",UnitName("target")), ...) end |
| 21:08.57 | Guillotine | foxlit: I win |
| 21:09.07 | foxlit | Mine's shorter. |
| 21:09.13 | foxlit | And we both break if target doesn't exist :) |
| 21:09.48 | Guillotine | ... works? |
| 21:10.16 | Guillotine | and why are you gsubbing ...? |
| 21:10.19 | foxlit | Yep, and you don't have to deal with them adding parameters that you aren't aware of :0 |
| 21:10.25 | foxlit | s/0/)/ |
| 21:10.31 | Guillotine | shouldn't that be outside of the paranthesis ? |
| 21:12.05 | foxlit | No; but which instance are you referring to? |
| 21:13.28 | foxlit | ./script local osm=SendChatMessage; function SendChatMessage(arg1, ...) osm(string.gsub(arg1,"<t>",tostring(UnitName("target"))), ...) end |
| 21:13.53 | foxlit | That'd at least get you nil rather than an error :) |
| 21:14.34 | Guillotine | oh, I see |
| 21:14.37 | Guillotine | ya, you're right |
| 21:14.44 | cladhaire | sysrage: If your options windows didn't work then there was a conflict somewhere |
| 21:14.52 | cladhaire | Many many people have been using perfectraid successfully since I released it. |
| 21:15.38 | cladhaire | and those conflicts were all clearly outlined in the addon's page |
| 21:16.12 | foxlit | Meh, torrents are so evil, especially when clients refuse to give you a whole piece before choking you, and the pieces are 4mb each :/ |
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| 21:25.52 | amro | okay this is messed up, i get a worse framerate AFTER installing ATi's drivers |
| 21:29.30 | Tem | amro, welcome to my worls |
| 21:29.34 | Tem | world |
| 21:29.41 | Tem | I can't wait to get my new computer built |
| 21:29.48 | Tem | no more dealing with ATI's bullshit |
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| 21:34.17 | TheStig | i don't suppose there is any way to replace text in the chat log with images so as to facilitate an emote system like MSN or any other standard instant messager? |
| 21:35.50 | kahdgarxi | TheStig - probably, but it would also probably involve hooking AddMessage, probably several other functions which would be.... fun :) |
| 21:36.05 | TheStig | sounds like i better leave that one to the professionals lol |
| 21:36.06 | Guillotine | don't think its possible |
| 21:36.15 | Guillotine | well, unless you completely rewrote the chat frame |
| 21:36.16 | foxlit | You could cheat and murder for it. |
| 21:36.25 | foxlit | It wouldn't be pretty, really. |
| 21:36.56 | bleetah | it gets even more fun when people use brackets |
| 21:37.13 | bleetah | then there's fun like URLs "containing smilies" etc. |
| 21:38.27 | foxlit | I don't think you can embed images in the ScrollingMessageFrame directly; so you'll need to figure out what it is displaying and anchor your own textures appropriately |
| 21:38.56 | foxlit | Which also means that you'd need to pad out your detected smilies so that the icons would "fit" with the text. |
| 21:40.51 | JoshBork1 | yea, what Foxlit said |
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| 22:03.19 | bleetah | hmm, lost connection to server. can't get back in. |
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| 22:05.01 | bleetah | hmm. there we go. |
| 22:05.08 | bleetah | wonder what caused it /shrug |
| 22:05.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | probley u wher stil on the server whit a 999 ping |
| 22:06.25 | bleetah | plasubile, can never really get it below about 350ms |
| 22:06.44 | bleetah | so doesn't really take much do go >1000ms, couple of trans-pacific spikes, and bang |
| 22:10.01 | foxlit | Meh, locks. |
| 22:10.10 | foxlit | Howl of terror, deathcoil, fear, dots, more dots. |
| 22:10.49 | foxlit | Two instant "get off me" are too much :) |
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| 22:15.33 | abug | is there a list of edge files and background files somewhere? |
| 22:15.48 | abug | aside from extracting them all from the MPQ |
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| 22:25.35 | abug | QQ |
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| 22:38.10 | abug | is the only way to be able to define a frame as virtual through xml? |
| 22:39.28 | Mery | (yes) |
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| 22:39.44 | abug | boo |
| 22:39.55 | Mery | but you don't really need virtual frames within lua just run a loop or make it a function |
| 22:39.55 | bleetah | aargh! |
| 22:39.57 | Cairenn | eek |
| 22:40.11 | abug | oops |
| 22:40.25 | abug | boo hoo |
| 22:41.02 | abug | virtual frames sound cool, but only the xml kids get em |
| 22:42.27 | Kirkburn|afk | ~coconuts |
| 22:42.36 | purl | I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts, there they are all standing in a row. Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head, give them a twist, a flick of the wrist, that's what the showman said! |
| 22:44.25 | Mike-N-Go | I don't understand how to use hooksecurefunc() |
| 22:44.51 | Mike-N-Go | Could someone explain how to use it for PickupContainerItem? |
| 22:49.18 | abug | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:50.30 | Mike-N-Go | Humm.. |
| 22:50.39 | abug | so I guess something like |
| 22:51.22 | Mike-N-Go | I have 'hooksecurefunc(PickupContainerItem, AMD_PickupContainerItem)' but it does not want to work. |
| 22:51.57 | abug | are you sure you have the right function? |
| 22:52.00 | Mike-N-Go | Their is something about a '[table]' I may be missing? |
| 22:52.25 | Mery | (and that you don't define the function after you do hooksecurefunc) |
| 22:52.28 | Mike-N-Go | I had 'local AMD_PickupContainerItem = PickupContainerItem' as my code before. |
| 22:52.42 | abug | oh |
| 22:52.50 | abug | it does all the hooking for you |
| 22:53.11 | Mike-N-Go | I am rater new to this lua stuff, so this is as far as I could get on my own. |
| 22:53.23 | abug | you just need AMD_ to be whatever you want done whenever PickUpContainerItem is called |
| 22:53.28 | Tem | you need to use a string |
| 22:53.46 | Tem | hooksecurefunc("PickupContainerItem",myfunction) |
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| 22:54.24 | Mike-N-Go | I need to sucure hook, othersiwe wise it is 'bugged'; when PickupContainerItem() is called when trying to apply an armor patch, it says it is blocked. |
| 22:57.07 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/5042 |
| 22:57.13 | Mike-N-Go | There is my current code. |
| 22:57.53 | Mike-N-Go | And sorry, it is indented in my text editor. |
| 22:58.16 | foxlit | What Tem said, Mike. |
| 22:59.06 | foxlit | You need to pass a string containing the name of the function you wish to hook, not a reference to the function |
| 22:59.28 | foxlit | So line 62 becomes hooksecurefunc("PickupContainerItem", AMD_PickupContainerItem) |
| 22:59.47 | Mike-N-Go | I tried that. |
| 23:00.21 | Mike-N-Go | With and without quotes around PickupContainerItem |
| 23:01.05 | foxlit | You're also directly hooking it next? |
| 23:01.05 | foxlit | function PickupContainerItem(bag,slot) |
| 23:01.13 | foxlit | pretty much overwrites the real PCI |
| 23:01.39 | foxlit | Also, when you run hooksecurefunc(PickupContainerItem, AMD_PickupContainerItem) |
| 23:01.49 | foxlit | AMD_PickupContainerItem is nil |
| 23:03.17 | Mike-N-Go | OK.. I am not advanced enough to understand all of what you just said. |
| 23:03.27 | foxlit | I'll patch it up for you, just a sec |
| 23:04.01 | abug | purl, slashdot |
| 23:04.37 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks man. |
| 23:05.17 | Mike-N-Go | I am busy IRL, I have not used the small amount of time I have had to learn lau that well. |
| 23:05.38 | foxlit | mm, pastebin lags with all of that charcount javascript |
| 23:05.46 | Mike-N-Go | With help, I made my first AddOn, that witch I linked to. |
| 23:06.00 | Mike-N-Go | Try another pastebin :) |
| 23:06.09 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/ |
| 23:06.51 | foxlit | I am referring to pastey |
| 23:06.58 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/5043 |
| 23:09.00 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks. |
| 23:09.20 | foxlit | Did it work? :) |
| 23:09.45 | foxlit | "New Outlook Won't Use IE To Render HTML" what then? |
| 23:10.07 | kahdgarxi | Gecko |
| 23:10.09 | Inside | what what? wow. |
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| 23:10.36 | abug | Geico |
| 23:11.26 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, oh, let me try it :) |
| 23:11.35 | Mike-N-Go | Yup, it works. |
| 23:12.45 | Mike-N-Go | And, it allows me to apply an armor patch |
| 23:12.51 | Mike-N-Go | Where it did not before. |
| 23:13.14 | zenzelezz | hrm, what's that macro to get the name of the frame under the (mouse) cursor again? |
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| 23:14.58 | zenzelezz | arr, found it... and I was so close =) |
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| 23:17.09 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks foxlit. |
| 23:17.47 | Tem | Clearly, you didn't |
| 23:18.03 | Tem | otherwise you wouldn't be here asking this question |
| 23:18.19 | Tem | which, btw, you could have answered yourself by RTFM |
| 23:18.54 | Mike-N-Go | Tem, who you talking to? |
| 23:19.06 | zenzelezz | I'm going to assume he's referring to my question |
| 23:19.44 | zenzelezz | and if he'd used a tiny bit of thought, he'd realize that RTFMing was the reason I found out; I had just been looking in the wrong place first :-p |
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| 23:23.27 | Garthnait | hi guys |
| 23:23.47 | abug | ~greet Garthnait |
| 23:23.49 | purl | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on Garthnait |
| 23:23.52 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 23:24.38 | Garthnait | I need some help to localize some points in my addon |
| 23:25.02 | abug | I know two klingon words |
| 23:25.08 | abug | that's about it |
| 23:26.37 | zenzelezz | "Last updated 37 years ago"... now that's an old addon |
| 23:27.41 | dukeku | all of the best localization is done with babelfish |
| 23:27.49 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 23:28.08 | zenzelezz | Google Translate, just like everyone does their homework! |
| 23:28.46 | zenzelezz | Garthnait: do you need info on how to localize it, or with the actual language(s)? |
| 23:28.56 | Garthnait | on how to localize |
| 23:29.07 | zenzelezz | that rules me out then =) |
| 23:29.22 | abug | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Localize_an_AddOn |
| 23:29.42 | Garthnait | that doesn't help me |
| 23:29.49 | Garthnait | in this tut is nothing what can help me |
| 23:30.33 | abug | whatcha need then? |
| 23:31.38 | Garthnait | my lua (http://wowi.pastey.net/5046) fired 2 Messages in line 13 and 14. The message GL_TEXT_WELCOME00 and 01 should defined in localization_enGB.lua but this doesn't work |
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| 23:32.44 | abug | are you sure the localization file is being loaded via your TOC or XML? |
| 23:33.19 | Garthnait | xml: http://wowi.pastey.net/5045 --- lua: http://wowi.pastey.net/5046 --- localization_enGB: http://wowi.pastey.net/5047 |
| 23:36.36 | abug | there's an extra space in your xml file for GodLike_OnLoad (); That may just be from pasting though |
| 23:38.18 | abug | I take it your client is enGB? |
| 23:38.21 | Garthnait | thanks, i think i found the failure. without "if getlocale ....." it works |
| 23:38.38 | Garthnait | yes i'm playing an enGB |
| 23:38.43 | Garthnait | on |
| 23:39.04 | abug | try typing /script message(GetLocale()) |
| 23:39.31 | Garthnait | enUS mkay |
| 23:39.44 | abug | beats me |
| 23:40.26 | Garthnait | okay, now it works with "getlocal" thanks |
| 23:40.33 | abug | good stuff |
| 23:40.58 | foxlit | Are there any reasons why <Size><AbsDimension x="32" y="32"/></Size> on a Texture may not be respected? |
| 23:42.27 | abug | SetAllPoints() is set on it? I dunno |
| 23:42.52 | foxlit | It actually seems to return all the right dimensions through GetWidth/GetHeight, but if you solidfill it, it's huge! |
| 23:43.24 | cladhaire | i know this is somewhat confusing |
| 23:43.26 | cladhaire | but HOW bad: http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1879/picture1ka6.png |
| 23:43.40 | abug | horrendous |
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| 23:44.34 | cladhaire | abug: ... care to elaborate? |
| 23:44.35 | foxlit | Owch |
| 23:44.43 | abug | nah I was kidding, looks fine |
| 23:45.08 | foxlit | I think I've got a better idea for class selection, though |
| 23:45.17 | cladhaire | foxlit: I'd love to hear it |
| 23:45.22 | foxlit | Use the 8 class icons as textures on small togglable buttons |
| 23:45.42 | foxlit | Desaturate them if they're off; display a golden border if they're on. |
| 23:46.02 | cladhaire | hrm... |
| 23:46.11 | cladhaire | but I need to have the group selection there too =( |
| 23:46.34 | foxlit | Sort of the same idea. |
| 23:47.32 | foxlit | It's a bit more compact than the text-and-checkbox approach; if you're going for it, drop me a copy :) |
| 23:47.55 | cladhaire | well, the text and checkbox is fully localized, which I like |
| 23:48.01 | cladhaire | the graphics are language agnostic tho |
| 23:48.24 | abug | add a tooltip when you hover over the icons? |
| 23:48.31 | foxlit | I use a pair of dropdowns at the moment. |
| 23:48.50 | cladhaire | well this can't be dropdowns, it needs to have multi-selection |
| 23:49.05 | foxlit | You can do that too. |
| 23:49.15 | cladhaire | hrm? |
| 23:49.37 | foxlit | checked=(1|nil) controls the checkmark in the button definition for dropdowns |
| 23:49.59 | foxlit | So you can have multiple checkmarks quite easily |
| 23:50.04 | cladhaire | aye |
| 23:50.14 | foxlit | Then there's a UIDropDownFrame_SetText (or something like it) that you can use to customize the text that gets displayed |
| 23:50.17 | cladhaire | well TBH |
| 23:50.23 | cladhaire | i'm not too concerned with being compact. |
| 23:50.25 | cladhaire | i've got space |
| 23:51.09 | foxlit | True, true. |
| 23:51.17 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:51.21 | cladhaire | i just adjusted the spacing on the checkboxes |
| 23:51.23 | cladhaire | it looks better |
| 23:51.24 | cladhaire | 15x15 now. |
| 23:53.15 | Mikma | anyone seen Clerks 2? |
| 23:53.53 | Garthnait | why does that not work? http://wowi.pastey.net/5050 |
| 23:54.21 | Garthnait | there must be a problem with GL_Version |
| 23:54.28 | foxlit | Got a question about anchors: http://wowi.pastey.net/5051 |
| 23:54.50 | foxlit | (Essentially, can I anchor Icon1 like I'm doing in that piece of XML?) |
| 23:55.51 | abug | lawl guy gave me 10g because he liked my name |
| 23:56.27 | abug | ew it's XML |
| 23:56.30 | abug | keep it away |
| 23:56.46 | haste | Mikma: I have :3 |
| 23:56.59 | Mikma | haste: ok, you liked it. |
| 23:57.04 | haste | Mikma: It's not as good as Clerks 1, but still very entertaining |
| 23:57.19 | Mikma | haste: i haven't seen clerks 1 but i do wanna see it now :) |
| 23:57.20 | sylvanaar | cladhaire: im sure you get asked alot - do you hvae any idea why my raidframes lose their clickablity until i cast from the action bar |
| 23:57.29 | haste | Mikma: watch clerks one first imo |
| 23:57.31 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: What raid frames? |
| 23:57.38 | Mikma | haste: tooooooo late :) |
| 23:57.40 | sylvanaar | cladhaire: x-perl |
| 23:57.46 | haste | Mikma: fail! |
| 23:57.58 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: No idea.. I've heard "reports".... this is with the latest Clique? |
| 23:58.02 | cladhaire | cause that's an issue if so |
| 23:58.14 | Mikma | haste: ass and fail, that's me :) |
| 23:58.19 | sylvanaar | let me make sure |
