| 00:00.12 | bleetah | the blogs underneath are themes from wordpress-mu |
| 00:00.37 | AnduinLothar | norganna's blog looks very similar to a RapidWeaver template, but the code doesn't have the tags |
| 00:00.42 | AnduinLothar | ahh |
| 00:00.51 | AnduinLothar | wordpress makes sense |
| 00:01.35 | bleetah | now, to go back to coding the cofee brewing IV inserting mod |
| 00:01.55 | AnduinLothar | i'm kinda suprized my blog has lasted me since i redesigned like 5 yrs ago |
| 00:02.08 | AnduinLothar | not that blogs are esp srenuous |
| 00:02.56 | AnduinLothar | but i think i have to write my own database code now... |
| 00:04.04 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: btw, I'd be on #cosmos testers, but my chat client is ass and not letting me add new servers at the moment |
| 00:04.17 | Kirkburn | Happy New Year from the UK! |
| 00:04.25 | bleetah | happy new year, Kirkburn :D |
| 00:04.29 | bleetah | glad you made it |
| 00:04.35 | bleetah | weather's nice, eh? |
| 00:04.52 | Kirkburn | Oh, wonderful :P |
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| 00:05.38 | Guillotine | happy new year all! |
| 00:05.52 | bleetah | happy new year, Guillotine :D |
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| 00:07.08 | AnduinLothar | Anyone know any good software or tools to make a table that's sortable by the different headers? kind of like the interface list here: http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=18098 |
| 00:08.59 | AnduinLothar | or even better, something with client side formatting |
| 00:10.23 | kremonte | gah, how do you get winmpq working ;_; |
| 00:12.30 | Tuller | http://shadowflare.samods.org/dwnload.html#SFSetup |
| 00:12.35 | Tuller | kremonte: that is |
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| 00:12.49 | Tuller | you're probably missing some visual basic runtimes, I'd imagine |
| 00:14.12 | amro | AnduinLothar: If you find something let me know, I could use something like that |
| 00:14.39 | kremonte | Tuller: with 2.0 |
| 00:14.43 | kremonte | it doesn't read common.mpq |
| 00:15.13 | kremonte | (considering common.mpq is 3.6gb) |
| 00:15.17 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
| 00:16.03 | bleetah | 2G limit? yerk |
| 00:16.03 | AnduinLothar | amro: I've defaulted to coding it in GoLive and writing my own js formatter with html includes for table data |
| 00:16.17 | Tuller | yeah that would probably be why :) |
| 00:16.26 | AnduinLothar | probably simpler than trying to find learn and impliment some bloated system that does what i want only as a tertiary feature |
| 00:16.31 | kremonte | i'm trying to extract some stuff from glues but i can't open it ;( |
| 00:16.56 | kremonte | with F&F alpha people would move out the patch file mid-install, but can't do that with BTS |
| 00:17.06 | |Shadow| | lol woot, the script i wrote to spam everyone for new year worked |
| 00:17.18 | |Shadow| | only downfall is i ended up having a endless conversation with a bot thats on my msn xD |
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| 00:19.12 | Guillotine | kremonte: common.mpq is encrypted differently |
| 00:19.20 | Guillotine | supposedly so that people can't put in their own models |
| 00:19.35 | kremonte | o_O put in their own models? can't do that anyway |
| 00:19.36 | Bouvi | And I am back. Miss me? |
| 00:19.41 | Guillotine | kremonte: yes you can |
| 00:19.42 | cladhaire | indeed! |
| 00:19.43 | kremonte | if you try to inject something into an MPQ wow will not load, it does checksums |
| 00:19.53 | kremonte | to inject your own models you can make your own mpq, but that completely goes around it :Q |
| 00:20.07 | kremonte | (i tried) |
| 00:20.09 | Guillotine | well, it used to work. dunno why common is encoded differently then |
| 00:20.16 | kremonte | i don't think it's encoding |
| 00:20.35 | kremonte | with BC (F&F and CB) you can move out the common.mpq file in between writes |
| 00:20.43 | kremonte | because it writes half of it, then writes expansion.mpq, then common again |
| 00:20.47 | kremonte | giving you two patch files |
| 00:21.09 | End | common just has an extra bit in the header |
| 00:21.26 | kremonte | could i feasibly hex edit it out and then open it? :Q |
| 00:21.26 | End | er, bits really |
| 00:21.44 | End | well...all they did was add an extra table |
| 00:22.19 | kremonte | am i screwed? :( |
| 00:22.27 | End | no |
| 00:23.04 | End | try the mpq editor at http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 00:23.15 | kremonte | jvous aime <3 |
| 00:24.02 | kremonte | yay, it loads |
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| 00:28.28 | Tuller | hrm, I wanna try and remember the name of that one |
| 00:28.40 | Tuller | it starts with an L.... |
| 00:28.49 | Tuller | ah screw it i'll just look at the page |
| 00:28.58 | bleetah | hehe |
| 00:30.25 | Tuller | remembering MPQ editors made me remember hacking starcraft and making maps for war3 bah |
| 00:30.43 | Tuller | I think i've forgotten JASS now |
| 00:31.40 | Guillotine | me too :( |
| 00:31.45 | Guillotine | I didn't like JASS much |
| 00:34.13 | Tuller | I was able to do a lot of nifty spell stuff with it |
| 00:34.27 | Tuller | but it was still a bit ugly to use |
| 00:37.25 | Bouvi | Dang Tuller I use more of your stuff than I thought. Did not know you did Omnicc too O.o |
| 00:38.04 | Tuller | omnicc is why I really wish everyone stopped doing their own cooldown count implementations :P |
| 00:38.09 | |Shadow| | oh great |
| 00:38.28 | |Shadow| | "Downloading "WoW-1.12.0-enGB-patch.exe"... |
| 00:38.40 | |Shadow| | "1.5 MB of 456 MB - About 6 hours" |
| 00:38.41 | |Shadow| | -.-! |
| 00:38.53 | bleetah | from a file mirror? |
| 00:38.58 | |Shadow| | nope |
| 00:39.00 | Bouvi | Yeah I use Bongos for the bar cause I can turn them off :P lol |
| 00:39.20 | |Shadow| | i've started useing bongos, i manually position every single button lol |
| 00:39.34 | Tuller | all 120? :P |
| 00:39.34 | |Shadow| | DAB's keybindings didn't work properly, when flexbar 2 comes out i'll probably use it tho |
| 00:39.45 | |Shadow| | well i reckon i have about 110 buttons |
| 00:39.48 | Bouvi | One thing thou you had better be sure you have the right number of bars cause if you add another bar BOOM it resets Thank God I saved a profile |
| 00:40.13 | |Shadow| | the sticky buttons option made it just about able to do :P |
| 00:40.43 | Tuller | the bar code is being altered in the next update, but I'm still settling on a configuration system |
| 00:40.59 | Tuller | I think I've determined one system doesn't work easily, but is still arguably more powerful |
| 00:41.06 | Bouvi | Well I volunteer to test if you need a tester. |
| 00:41.08 | ckknight | how do you get the name of the item/spell you are holding in your hand? |
| 00:41.25 | Tuller | hand being...cursor? |
| 00:41.30 | ckknight | yes. |
| 00:41.39 | ckknight | like, you can pick up a spell or item, how do I get its name? |
| 00:41.45 | Tuller | I thin kthey made it easier in some patch |
| 00:42.04 | Tuller | think that is |
| 00:42.07 | Guillotine | not really. you have to hook picking it up still I think |
| 00:42.26 | Guillotine | I thought the same Tuller, but Iriel corrected me |
| 00:42.27 | Tuller | type, detail[,subdetail] = GetCursorInfo() -- one of "item",id,link / "spell",slot,"spell"|"pet" / |
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| 00:42.40 | ckknight | you are a pimp. |
| 00:42.42 | Tuller | 2.0.3 it looks like |
| 00:42.53 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:42.54 | Guillotine | ah, so it was just recently added. yay :D |
| 00:43.46 | |Shadow| | 38353C3C3F cookies for who ever figures out what that means |
| 00:43.47 | Tuller | well, I have not tested it, but yeah the old way is to hook pickupaction |
| 00:43.48 | |Shadow| | (solve it if your bored) |
| 00:44.18 | Tuller | 241411308607 |
| 00:44.37 | |Shadow| | Tuller nope |
| 00:44.39 | |Shadow| | its a word. |
| 00:44.55 | Bouvi | Wonder if this is worth it. looks cool |
| 00:44.57 | Thunder_Child | hex |
| 00:45.03 | |Shadow| | Thunder_Child nope |
| 00:45.10 | Bouvi | http://www.ideazon.com/us/products/keyset_wowbc.asp |
| 00:45.12 | Thunder_Child | thats not the word |
| 00:45.20 | |Shadow| | Thunder_Child yes it is |
| 00:45.31 | |Shadow| | do you give up yet? :D |
| 00:45.36 | Thunder_Child | ok, now you lost me |
| 00:45.56 | Thunder_Child | is it in hex? |
| 00:46.00 | |Shadow| | Thunder_Child nope. |
| 00:46.44 | |Shadow| | any more ideas? |
| 00:48.01 | |Shadow| | lol ok imma tell you guys the answer :P |
| 00:48.11 | |Shadow| | its the word Hello, converted into ascii, then converted into base 32 |
| 00:48.12 | |Shadow| | :D |
| 00:48.57 | |Shadow| | i can talk in base 2-36, and 64 now :D |
| 00:49.18 | |Shadow| | Talking in base 64 is fun. YmFzZSA2NCB3aW5z |
| 00:49.57 | Tuller | I knew it |
| 00:50.03 | Tuller | as in, I did not, but yes |
| 00:50.06 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 00:50.40 | Kirkburn | Ouch, my IE7 mem usage hit 700MB! |
| 00:50.55 | |Shadow| | i re-wrote the code i made to translate, now all i have to do is /base BASE Text |
| 00:51.02 | |Shadow| | and /debase BASE Text |
| 00:51.05 | |Shadow| | fun \o/ |
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| 00:51.59 | Kirkburn | Unsurprisingly it then crashed |
| 00:52.59 | Industrial | HAPPY NEW YEAR PPL (tho its 2am here) |
| 00:54.22 | Tuller | Kirkburn: you're not allowed to use IE :P |
| 00:54.44 | Tuller | more importantly, I have MS Paint open somewhere/ |
| 00:56.19 | Thunder_Child | how is that more important? |
| 00:57.42 | Tuller | because I opened it probably 6 hours ago and closed it five minutes later :) |
| 00:59.00 | AnduinLothar | how do i set text height with a different font size in css, anyone? |
| 00:59.24 | |Shadow| | thanks Industrial |
| 00:59.26 | AnduinLothar | line-height? |
| 00:59.46 | |Shadow| | i wrote a program to message everyone on my msn happy new year, at midnight |
| 01:00.03 | |Shadow| | funny as hell, because i have this bot on my msn and it ended up with a endless loop chatting to my auto away message |
| 01:00.10 | Guillotine | haha |
| 01:00.25 | |Shadow| | ...i am away. reason: new years ... i am away. reason: new years is a unknown command! |
| 01:00.32 | |Shadow| | rinse and repeat times about 10k |
| 01:00.52 | AnduinLothar | whoo python |
| 01:01.02 | kremonte | python ftw |
| 01:01.04 | Guillotine | just started learning it about an hour ago. very much like lua |
| 01:01.11 | Thrae | Anyone here do Raid Healing? |
| 01:01.20 | kremonte | obfuscating python code is hard |
| 01:01.20 | kremonte | :( |
| 01:01.26 | Guillotine | Thrae: unfortunately :( |
| 01:01.31 | Guillotine | not more once BC comes out though |
| 01:01.33 | Guillotine | feral/shadow ftw |
| 01:01.36 | AnduinLothar | i had to write a program in intel assembly to calculat the primes from 0 to 40k this past quarter... |
| 01:01.38 | Guillotine | no more* |
| 01:01.46 | kremonte | ouch anduin, ouch |
| 01:01.55 | Thrae | Guillotine: You're a Feral Priest or a Shadow Druid? |
| 01:01.56 | Inside | Doesn't sound too complicated o_O? |
| 01:02.06 | Guillotine | Thrae: yup. and protection warlock |
| 01:02.20 | kremonte | Guillotine: no destruction rogue? i'm disappointed |
| 01:02.24 | |Shadow| | Guillotine copy cat :P |
| 01:02.36 | Guillotine | what did I copy from? |
| 01:02.42 | |Shadow| | me :O |
| 01:02.55 | Guillotine | ? when did you say that |
| 01:02.58 | |Shadow| | i started python 2 days ago and i said here and i showed you screenshots :P |
| 01:02.58 | Guillotine | I thought I had made it up :( |
| 01:03.01 | Guillotine | oh ya |
| 01:03.03 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 01:03.06 | Guillotine | thats what convinced me to start learning it |
| 01:03.16 | Guillotine | what tutorial are you using? or just looking at examples? |
| 01:03.25 | |Shadow| | bit of both |
| 01:03.31 | kremonte | am i original for learning python a year ago :O |
| 01:03.43 | AnduinLothar | i learned it 4 yrs ago |
| 01:03.45 | Guillotine | woohoo! just calculated all prime numbers between 1 and 40k :D |
| 01:03.47 | kremonte | damn |
| 01:03.55 | Qshadowp | Guillotine woot lol |
| 01:04.13 | Tuller | I think I have some prolog code to do that somewhere |
| 01:04.15 | Guillotine | anyone want the list? |
| 01:04.17 | kremonte | i wrote a program using Tk to easily play songs over CS on my clan's funserver |
| 01:04.21 | AnduinLothar | i think 40-50k is like the max size of a 32 bit integer or something |
| 01:04.21 | Thrae | Guillotine: I need Raid testing for my updated addon, VitalWatch. It gives out chat messages and plays sounds for low or critical health/mana for self,group,raid,or pets. |
| 01:04.46 | Thrae | Oh, it also has an alert frame. I need to add MSBT support for that. |
| 01:04.46 | Guillotine | Thrae: don't really raid anymore much :( mostly 5-mans |
| 01:05.06 | Thrae | Ah |
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| 01:05.17 | Thrae | Yeah, I code too much to get up to Level 60 |
| 01:05.28 | Guillotine | lol, you don't have a level 60? |
| 01:05.34 | Tuller | five mans are more fun |
| 01:05.38 | kremonte | i only have 60s because i have nothing to code :-( |
| 01:05.44 | Thrae | Well I've only been playing for a year and a half! ;) |
| 01:05.44 | kremonte | WTB Creativity PST |
| 01:06.02 | Guillotine | I leveled up my rogue 35-39 by spamming one button |
| 01:06.04 | Guillotine | fun stuff |
| 01:06.20 | kremonte | i levelled rogue 1-60 by spamming 2! :P |
| 01:06.24 | Guillotine | it even moved/pulled mobs |
| 01:06.28 | kremonte | o_O |
| 01:06.28 | Thrae | kremonte: Coding addons is 30% Creativity and 70% Logic ;) |
| 01:06.39 | Guillotine | that was back when moving wasn't protected |
| 01:06.41 | Thrae | Guillotine: Not anymore...well, partly |
| 01:06.42 | kremonte | not CODING addons. THINKING of addons to code |
| 01:06.44 | kremonte | :p |
| 01:06.53 | Thrae | kremonte: That's the 30% |
| 01:07.03 | kremonte | well i'm missing the 30% then :( |
| 01:07.06 | Tuller | well actually that's the 20% |
| 01:07.11 | Guillotine | Thrae: not one ability, it used every ability. my addon just chose what to do |
| 01:07.19 | Tuller | the 10% is thinking of solutions to get around the 70% part |
| 01:07.26 | kremonte | lol |
| 01:07.28 | Thrae | Guillotine: Right, like FeralSkills, pre-2.0 |
| 01:07.31 | Guillotine | right |
| 01:07.52 | Guillotine | had my own rogue one I worked on for a bit. never really released it. Then when they protected movement I just stopped using it |
| 01:08.03 | Thrae | And 5% is alchohol-induced brain seizure eurekas. |
| 01:08.18 | kremonte | Thrae: nah, broken knuckles from punching things out of frustration |
| 01:08.29 | kremonte | 5% is the healing so you can type out the solutions :P |
| 01:08.34 | Tuller | the fun of playing a rogue is not playing a combat rogue :) |
| 01:08.35 | bleetah | s/things/users/ |
| 01:08.40 | kremonte | hemo ftw! |
| 01:08.43 | kremonte | WTB addon to code, PST |
| 01:08.50 | Thrae | The fun of playing a Druid is playing a Druid! |
| 01:08.55 | kremonte | ewww druid |
| 01:09.11 | Tuller | druids are fun, but I always wind back healing with tuller |
| 01:09.23 | Guillotine | feral druids are fun in TBC |
| 01:09.24 | kremonte | i cant stand healing after playing a 75whm in ffxi |
| 01:09.28 | Guillotine | once you have actual itemization |
| 01:09.30 | kremonte | i hate all people now |
| 01:09.36 | kremonte | so i just run around rogue killing said people |
| 01:09.38 | Thrae | I like healing. |
| 01:09.49 | Thrae | And I'm a Feral Druid, so I have the best of both worlds. |
| 01:09.50 | Tuller | kremonte: how in the world did you even make it to 75 in FFXI |
| 01:10.02 | kremonte | Tuller: 75whm 56nin, i hate my life because of that |
| 01:10.03 | Tuller | kremonte: I think I gave up with the game around 40 |
| 01:10.05 | End | fighting 3 warlocks at once is certain death |
| 01:10.09 | Thrae | TBC Feral Druids can stunlock! |
| 01:10.11 | End | I just found that out |
| 01:10.14 | kremonte | End: nah |
| 01:10.15 | Tuller | though samurais are really fun to play |
| 01:10.19 | kremonte | not if you're a COS rogue with prep up |
| 01:10.19 | Guillotine | Thrae: I know :D <3 maim |
| 01:10.25 | End | hah |
| 01:10.27 | Tuller | shadowstep! |
| 01:10.28 | kremonte | SAM is just LFG for hours :/ |
| 01:10.29 | End | you'll die |
| 01:10.33 | End | dots will kill you |
| 01:10.35 | End | nuff said |
| 01:10.36 | kremonte | nope |
| 01:10.38 | kremonte | COS removes dots |
| 01:10.41 | Tuller | kremonte: well, I like chain attacks :) |
| 01:10.47 | Thrae | End: You could even say you are in Eternal Fear of a Warlock trio ;) |
| 01:10.56 | Tuller | kremonte: that's the one thing I want in wow that was in FFXI |
| 01:10.58 | End | wait, COS? |
| 01:11.04 | kremonte | Tuller: for awhile, i duoed with a SAM in altepa, WHM/nin hexa strike for light FTW |
| 01:11.06 | Tuller | curse of shadow |
| 01:11.06 | kremonte | yes |
| 01:11.08 | kremonte | no |
| 01:11.10 | kremonte | cloak of shadows |
| 01:11.11 | kremonte | COS rogue |
| 01:11.39 | End | I'm still skeptical |
| 01:11.50 | End | since it has a two minute cooldown |
| 01:11.52 | kremonte | prep |
| 01:11.54 | kremonte | :) |
| 01:12.03 | End | which also has a cooldown |
| 01:12.08 | kremonte | 2 preps is enough |
| 01:12.16 | Thrae | I never played FFXI, what is chained attacks? Something like Heroic Strike + Mortal Strike + Cleave are done consectutively? |
| 01:12.18 | End | two? |
| 01:12.21 | End | how do you get two preps? |
| 01:12.25 | kremonte | 2 COS |
| 01:12.26 | kremonte | sorry |
| 01:12.35 | kremonte | Thrae: kinda. weapon skills are used when you have TP, which is like rage |
| 01:12.47 | End | I'm -still- skeptical |
| 01:12.52 | kremonte | you get 100 TP, use a weapon skill, then someone else does theirs, and different combos make SCs (skillchains) |
| 01:13.05 | Tuller | which do more damage |
| 01:13.18 | Thrae | Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that's pretty awesome, as long as it's queue'd probably so lag doesn't stop you from doing the combo. |
| 01:13.19 | Tuller | and have elements themselves |
| 01:13.25 | kremonte | End: i either sap one, or just zerg into it. ones stunlocked, ones blinded, the other is mashing dots and i just clear them off with COS when theyre all on me |
| 01:13.30 | End | well |
| 01:13.33 | End | they ran into me |
| 01:13.36 | End | and put me into combat |
| 01:13.37 | kremonte | vanish |
| 01:13.39 | kremonte | ;p |
| 01:13.49 | Tuller | goblin rocket helm |
| 01:13.52 | End | yeah, that might help |
| 01:13.53 | kremonte | Thrae: there's time to spare |
| 01:13.56 | End | although |
| 01:14.01 | kremonte | you have ~5 secs to do the other WS |
| 01:14.01 | End | I was screwed |
| 01:14.09 | End | I got deathcoiled |
| 01:14.12 | End | then 9 dots |
| 01:14.32 | kremonte | and at level 70+, you do a quest to get your final weapon skill, and the final WS of each weapon make level 3 SCs |
| 01:14.46 | Thrae | I'd also like to see End Raid Bosses which do Time Freeze super cool looking attacks at certain health percentages...like 70%, 30%, 10%. |
| 01:14.52 | kremonte | a complex system but making light was like making heaven come to earth, having jesus kick the shit out of your enemy, and then having a black mage MB off it |
| 01:15.07 | kremonte | (thats what SC were for, they were like curses - they make enemy vulnerable to an element) |
| 01:15.16 | End | ok, that time I only met two of them |
| 01:15.16 | kremonte | (then a BLM would MB (magic burst) off it and melt face) |
| 01:15.20 | Thrae | It would certainly kill the monotomy |
| 01:15.28 | kremonte | the thing was, grinding was a pain in FFXI |
| 01:15.31 | kremonte | you needed to be grouped |
| 01:15.34 | kremonte | so thats all most groups were |
| 01:15.52 | Tuller | groups forced people to play a useful class |
| 01:15.56 | kremonte | you have a healer, tank, rdm or brd, then either 2 dps or a dps to SC with tank and a mage to MB |
| 01:16.21 | kremonte | except, the classic healer (a la WHM) kinda got run down in the end. was fun seeing RDMs be main healers and refreshers as i sat LFG longer than warriors |
| 01:16.29 | kremonte | horrible nostalgia |
| 01:16.52 | Tuller | yeah that's moslty why I stopped playing, you really couldn't do much outside of a group |
| 01:17.01 | Tuller | at least now I can code :) |
| 01:17.02 | Thrae | s/goes/does/ |
| 01:17.12 | kremonte | Tuller: i could solo robber crabs as WHM/NIN! |
| 01:17.19 | kremonte | i used so many stacks of utsusemi powder though |
| 01:17.26 | Doonga | i miss my blm :( |
| 01:17.28 | kremonte | took me ~70 to kill one, and the fight was about 15 mins long |
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| 01:17.41 | Doonga | i had all the +1 elemental staves |
| 01:17.41 | kremonte | i always wished i rolled a BLM... NIN was fun until i couldnt even get a group on that |
| 01:17.50 | kremonte | because all the new groups were BRD BLM BLM BLM BLM parties |
| 01:17.55 | kremonte | Doonga: wow |
| 01:17.58 | Tuller | oh man, I'm about to have 6 sliders for this option |
| 01:17.59 | kremonte | rich bastard |
| 01:18.12 | kremonte | i had 2 darksteel mauls +1, light staff, dark staff +1 |
| 01:18.13 | Doonga | i grew the ore :) i'd make a few million every 3 weeks |
| 01:18.17 | kremonte | jeez |
| 01:18.24 | kremonte | in the end, i let my friend play for a week, i log back on |
| 01:18.32 | kremonte | he sold all my shit, including the gear i spent millions on that just came out |
| 01:18.38 | Doonga | ouch |
| 01:18.45 | kremonte | i got pants/gloves, 4mil each, he sold them for 2mil each and sent the money to himself.. |
| 01:18.50 | Tuller | scale, opacity, cols, spacing, size, pages |
| 01:18.52 | Doonga | when I quit, I sold everything and sent my friend like 30 million |
| 01:19.00 | kremonte | rich :Q |
| 01:19.08 | Doonga | he bought that crazy ranger neck |
| 01:19.12 | kremonte | hah |
| 01:19.15 | Doonga | the one off argus, I can't remember the name |
| 01:19.18 | kremonte | RNG nerf was hilarious |
| 01:19.21 | Doonga | peacock charm |
| 01:19.23 | kremonte | yea |
| 01:19.33 | kremonte | i still have SSes of when i stole LoO |
| 01:19.35 | kremonte | was a great day |
| 01:19.38 | Doonga | oh they nerfed them? hahaha I think he'd quit before that |
| 01:19.47 | kremonte | yea a bit after i quit |
| 01:19.54 | kremonte | further away they were, the less damage they did i think |
| 01:20.01 | Doonga | ahh |
| 01:20.08 | kremonte | oh, and i got optical hat on my WHM |
| 01:20.09 | kremonte | :D |
| 01:20.09 | Doonga | well...that's not too horrible |
| 01:20.13 | Doonga | oh nice |
| 01:20.13 | kremonte | i soloed all the eyes :D |
| 01:20.29 | Doonga | i had all the avatars but fenrir too |
| 01:20.39 | Doonga | the old way |
| 01:20.40 | kremonte | http://www.dan-rouse.com/ffimg/xolotl_aero.JPG first time i saw xolotl D; |
| 01:20.46 | kremonte | i never levelled my smn sj, he was at 32 lol |
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| 01:21.10 | Doonga | oh i got them on some other character |
| 01:21.15 | Tuller | I mined enough something from somewhere to get some sort of samurai bracers for myself, than gave up :P |
| 01:21.21 | Doonga | i think...that was forever ago |
| 01:21.30 | Doonga | what zone is that ss in? |
| 01:21.41 | kremonte | mmmm one of the newish ones |
| 01:21.46 | kremonte | with the miasma |
| 01:21.50 | Doonga | i quit just after chains came out...basically dec 2k4 when wow released |
| 01:21.52 | kremonte | i was doing COP quests |
| 01:21.54 | kremonte | ahh |
| 01:21.55 | Doonga | yea, I think that was after me |
| 01:22.01 | kremonte | i got to ultima fight, and quit |
| 01:22.05 | kremonte | my LS did it fucking without me |
| 01:22.12 | kremonte | they found a pick up WHM because they decided not to do it when planned |
| 01:22.18 | Doonga | oh nice |
| 01:22.35 | Doonga | my server got really screwed up with farmers |
| 01:22.44 | Doonga | and I really didn't like the look of endgame |
| 01:22.50 | kremonte | i still have the SS when i got windurst r10 |
| 01:23.03 | Doonga | i think I was 6 |
| 01:23.12 | kremonte | http://www.dan-rouse.com/ffimg/double_dragonian_drops.JPG < i made so much money |
| 01:23.22 | Doonga | heavy jp server, so the americans had it rough for a long time |
| 01:23.28 | kremonte | same |
| 01:23.41 | kremonte | i think the COP quests were the most fun thing in ffxi tho |
| 01:23.51 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.09 | kremonte | and with this: http://www.dan-rouse.com/ffimg/kiringetsahaircut.jpg |
| 01:24.10 | kremonte | i go. |
| 01:24.15 | Doonga | i like training every sheep farming for mary and blizzaga IV'ing them |
| 01:24.24 | kremonte|whocare | rofl at that |
| 01:24.34 | Doonga | i have a screenie of that somewhere |
| 01:24.35 | Inside | >_> |
| 01:25.01 | Doonga | oo found it, hang on |
| 01:26.01 | kremonte | i still dont know what to code |
| 01:26.04 | kremonte | gah |
| 01:27.08 | Doonga | i code for a living, so i prefer to let other people code for my gaming time :) but I recognize well written mods when I see them...hence being here |
| 01:27.48 | kremonte | i need an idea for something to make, i don't want to gulch grind :/ |
| 01:28.17 | Doonga | yea i'm rerolling come xpac, so i have some massive downtime while the guild cut back on raids |
| 01:28.37 | kremonte | i dont even enjoy raiding |
| 01:28.42 | kremonte | i just want something to make T_T |
| 01:28.55 | Doonga | oh i love it |
| 01:29.15 | kremonte | well, i have a lock, rogue, and undergeared warrior. not much i can do but DPS, so i'm useless and expendable |
| 01:29.16 | Doonga | got a good group of friend, so it's fun ... usually |
| 01:29.23 | Doonga | friends* |
| 01:29.25 | kremonte | and i hate my guild with my lock and warrior |
| 01:30.03 | Doonga | http://home.comcast.net/~tpunder/liveflock1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~tpunder/deadflock1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~tpunder/deadflock2.jpg |
| 01:30.30 | kremonte | rofl |
| 01:30.31 | Doonga | that last pic is someone who had been harassing us coming over |
| 01:30.46 | kremonte | http://www.dan-rouse.com/ffimg/raise_noeffect.jpg |
| 01:31.00 | Doonga | lol ouch |
| 01:31.04 | kremonte | parispring, fredrick, jindi, and sussan were a group of farmers that sat in kuftal |
| 01:31.07 | Inside | Thing I liked about FFXI was the whole battle raising thing. |
| 01:31.11 | kremonte | my friend and i would MPK them |
| 01:31.24 | kremonte | then id time it so as their WHM ressed, i would tractor |
| 01:31.29 | kremonte | the tractor prompt would be up, res wouldnt work |
| 01:31.30 | kremonte | =P |
| 01:31.32 | Doonga | i loved the combat system...it was slow as hell, but so involved |
| 01:31.39 | kremonte | yea, wow is so simple |
| 01:31.40 | Inside | I didn't like it at all. |
| 01:31.41 | Doonga | ahh |
| 01:31.43 | kremonte | i just mash hemo |
| 01:31.46 | kremonte | and kill shit |
| 01:31.51 | Inside | As a RDM, ti was boring as fuck |
| 01:31.55 | Inside | I wrote a little script to play for me. |
| 01:31.57 | Inside | And watched anime. |
| 01:32.02 | kremonte | then why even play the game |
| 01:32.07 | kremonte | if youre going to have ab ot do it |
| 01:32.09 | Inside | That's why I quit :p |
| 01:32.11 | Doonga | i had a bard too, so rdm brd groups were insane |
| 01:32.18 | kremonte | as whm i got deprecated |
| 01:32.20 | kremonte | in the 60s |
| 01:32.24 | Doonga | yea.... |
| 01:32.27 | kremonte | all the good groups had nin tanks and rdm healers, i just slowed shit down |
| 01:32.33 | Inside | Yup =_= |
| 01:32.40 | Doonga | yea... |
| 01:32.46 | Inside | Go back to your 2.5k xp/hour group in a completely over populated area. |
| 01:32.46 | Tuller | hurray, infinite recursion! |
| 01:32.47 | Inside | ^__________^ |
| 01:32.54 | Inside | God. |
| 01:32.54 | kremonte | lol Insa |
| 01:32.57 | kremonte | Inside* |
| 01:33.02 | Inside | FFXI was such a shitty game. |
| 01:33.07 | kremonte | i was excited when i got 6k/hr |
| 01:33.12 | Inside | Looking back, there was almost nothing positive about that game. |
| 01:33.13 | kremonte | as my BLM friend would whisper me |
| 01:33.17 | kremonte | LOL IM DOING 12K AN HOUR LOL! |
| 01:33.19 | Inside | :p |
| 01:33.20 | Doonga | yea heh |
| 01:33.30 | Doonga | that game was a giant pain in the ass |
| 01:33.37 | Doonga | but i still had a lot of fun |
| 01:33.41 | kremonte | same |
| 01:33.57 | kremonte | hmmm what to code.. |
| 01:34.14 | Doonga | that's the other reason I don't code at home...I end up doing what you are right now |
| 01:34.20 | kremonte | lol |
| 01:34.24 | kremonte | well nothing else to do |
| 01:34.33 | kremonte | everyone else is in the living room getting wasted and watching football, two things i despise |
| 01:34.37 | Inside | Doonga: What, sitting on irc bitching about ffxi XD? |
| 01:34.45 | Doonga | yea that oo |
| 01:34.45 | Doonga | :) |
| 01:34.50 | Doonga | too |
| 01:35.01 | kremonte | i'm gonna go ask in org to make mods for cash |
| 01:35.06 | kremonte | i have 3 epic mounts and no riding skill on my rogue <_< |
| 01:35.13 | Inside | >_>; |
| 01:35.23 | Inside | What kind of mods do people need? |
| 01:35.29 | kremonte | fuck if i know |
| 01:35.40 | Inside | It's going to be something complex, if anything. |
| 01:40.29 | Tuller | Inside: make something you need? :P |
| 01:40.40 | Tuller | or imrpove some mod you currently use in some way |
| 01:40.59 | Tuller | improve that is |
| 01:41.07 | Tuller | that could actually be ripping out stuff you do not use |
| 01:50.34 | Inside | >_> hmm |
| 01:56.06 | Guillotine | hmm. would making mods for in-game gold be considered exchanging in-game currency for out-of-game services? |
| 01:56.54 | Inside | Yes |
| 01:56.58 | MentalPower|Gone | I think so, yes |
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| 01:57.32 | |Shadow| | uhh, this is starting to get weird |
| 01:58.01 | |Shadow| | i started off walking around durotar, and i got the error that common.mpq was currupt, and couldn't login (same error over and over) |
| 01:58.15 | |Shadow| | so i tried the repair, it said i had to delete patch.mpq (which was non existant) |
| 01:58.31 | |Shadow| | so i uninstalled WoW, and spend the past 2 hours downloading the 1.12 patch |
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| 01:58.59 | |Shadow| | and its now showing the error "The file "C:\Program Files\WoW-1.12.0-enGB-patch.exe" appears to be currupt. You made need to download this file again." |
| 01:59.07 | |Shadow| | any suggestions? |
| 01:59.26 | Guillotine | |shadow| I had the EXACT same thing a couple days ago |
| 01:59.26 | End | panic |
| 01:59.29 | Inside | panic |
| 01:59.38 | Cide | they're after you |
| 01:59.39 | Cide | run |
| 01:59.41 | Guillotine | uninstall WoW deleting all files |
| 01:59.43 | End | the midgets! |
| 01:59.45 | Guillotine | then reinstall |
| 01:59.48 | |Shadow| | Guillotine i just did that |
| 01:59.57 | Guillotine | you also have to delete WTF folder |
| 02:00.01 | |Shadow| | control panel > add remove programs, uninstall wow |
| 02:00.08 | |Shadow| | then the remaining bits that where in the wow folder, i deleted |
| 02:00.09 | Guillotine | did you chose to remove all files? |
| 02:00.14 | Guillotine | hmm. dunno then |
| 02:00.22 | |Shadow| | yes, i deleted the C:\program files\world of warcraft folder, before installing again. |
| 02:00.25 | |Shadow| | bleh |
| 02:00.30 | Guillotine | guess the patch file just got corrupted while downloading maybe? |
| 02:00.30 | |Shadow| | time to call it a day? lol |
| 02:00.32 | Guillotine | try re-downloading |
| 02:00.36 | Doonga | have you run the launcher recently to get the latest repair util? |
| 02:00.43 | End | I'll repeat myself |
| 02:00.44 | End | pnic |
| 02:00.45 | End | er |
| 02:00.45 | Guillotine | or, better yet, install WoW from the test trial available on website |
| 02:00.47 | End | panic |
| 02:00.49 | End | >_< |
| 02:00.57 | Guillotine | then you need no patches |
| 02:00.57 | |Shadow| | Guillotine i could do that :p |
| 02:01.03 | |Shadow| | i might leave it downloading over night |
| 02:01.14 | Guillotine | thats what I did. took 10 hours of downloading >< |
| 02:01.49 | |Shadow| | meh |
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| 02:25.58 | Bouvi | OK what was that? I come in and everyone leaves? Is it my deoderant? |
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| 02:26.00 | Thunder_Child | yes |
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| 02:41.46 | cladhaire | Happy New Years Netsplit zomg! |
| 02:43.28 | |Shadow| | hehe |
| 02:43.40 | |Shadow| | http://www.pastey.net/4275 , funniest chat on IRC i've had in quite a while. |
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| 02:45.58 | cladhaire | heh |
| 02:46.54 | |Shadow| | ~lart Osagasu |
| 02:47.47 | End | |Shadow| is a homeless person |
| 02:48.06 | End | true story! |
| 02:48.15 | |Shadow| | y, i use the local telephone box to connect to the internet |
| 02:48.16 | |Shadow| | :D |
| 02:48.30 | End | lol |
| 02:51.36 | cladhaire | i have a home.. but no computer =( |
| 02:53.10 | |Shadow| | cladhaire =( |
| 02:53.27 | cladhaire | heheh |
| 02:53.30 | cladhaire | we should trade imo |
| 02:53.48 | |Shadow| | y \o/ |
| 02:54.25 | cladhaire | who wants to make a mod that colors minimap mouseovers with class color |
| 02:54.27 | cladhaire | where applicable? |
| 02:57.30 | Guillotine | alright, who knows about regexps in Python? |
| 02:58.20 | Guillotine | I'm reading the manual, but regexps seem to be working differently than anywhere else I've seen them |
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| 03:08.16 | Kirkburn | Staying or leaving, Bouvi? ;) |
| 03:08.40 | Kirkburn | We all have to decide whether to have another netsplit for you :P |
| 03:08.43 | Bouvi | Is it possible to change an icon on a Fubar addon say if a condition is true change to this, etc. If so how. |
| 03:08.52 | Bouvi | Yeah what was up with that lol |
| 03:09.15 | Kirkburn | heh, no idea. Suprised we haven't had a global announcement |
| 03:09.37 | Bouvi | I know it is possible. MailFu does it. Time to hack some code. |
| 03:09.39 | Kirkburn | Have different icons in different situations? |
| 03:10.16 | Kirkburn | Yeah, code hack! Or call ckknight evilly. Oops, damn, I did it anyway ;) |
| 03:10.37 | ckknight | Bouvi: :SetIcon |
| 03:10.49 | Bouvi | Thanks CK |
| 03:11.07 | ckknight | there's a wiki page about this, Bouvi |
| 03:11.07 | Kirkburn | rawr |
| 03:11.23 | Bouvi | Will look for it. |
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| 03:15.23 | Bouvi | Well did a search for SetIcon and cannot find it on wowwiki will keep looking. |
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| 03:27.04 | Industrial | .. |
| 03:27.08 | Industrial | Bouvi: wowace.com. |
| 03:28.36 | Bouvi | tyty |
| 03:28.44 | cladhaire | 21 honor a minutes == nice =) |
| 03:29.37 | Kirkburn | Toodles! Happy 2007! |
| 03:29.47 | cladhaire | to you as well! |
| 03:29.53 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, one day you will speak like me and love it :) |
| 03:29.54 | Bouvi | Same to you! |
| 03:30.10 | cladhaire | no i will resist your britishisms |
| 03:30.18 | Kirkburn | We shall prevail! |
| 03:30.35 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 03:30.36 | Industrial | you know what I miss in linux? |
| 03:30.42 | Kirkburn | byee |
| 03:30.44 | Industrial | explorer.exe |
| 03:30.47 | Industrial | >_> |
| 03:32.31 | Qshadowp | http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3451 |
| 03:32.32 | Qshadowp | woot |
| 03:32.34 | Qshadowp | cure the stupid people \o/ |
| 03:39.23 | Industrial | yay |
| 03:39.47 | Industrial | and the ugly people \o/ |
| 03:40.00 | Bouvi | Remember if you have an if statment in a function you need two ends DUH!!!!! grrrr remembering how to code is killing me but it is fun. |
| 03:40.14 | Industrial | go go gadget syntax highlighting |
| 03:40.42 | Bouvi | I even have that!!! It was a total DUH!@!! Where do I sign up to cure the stupid people |
| 03:40.56 | Industrial | watson. |
| 03:41.18 | Bouvi | Woot got the icon thing to work. |
| 03:41.49 | Malivil | Bouvi: You realize the the "cure the stupid people" thing in that article refers to killing them or stopping them from reproducing... right? |
| 03:42.07 | Bouvi | Well that explains why I cannot reproduce.... |
| 03:42.11 | Malivil | lol |
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| 03:43.33 | Industrial | I dont think that stupid people reproducing is such a good idea :| |
| 03:43.42 | Industrial | er |
| 03:43.55 | Industrial | I dont think that having stupid people reproduce is such a good idea :| |
| 03:44.28 | Thunder_Child | there are alot of people that shouldnt reproduce...stupid is just the tip |
| 03:44.58 | Malivil | oh yea |
| 03:45.34 | Bouvi | Well I cannot reproduce but I influences hundreds if not thousands of kids :) |
| 03:45.57 | Bouvi | Oh Cladhaire can you make with the approving of my addon please :) |
| 03:46.35 | Thunder_Child | wait...are you saying that you addon is what does the influencing? |
| 03:46.42 | Bouvi | Thank you |
| 03:46.55 | Thunder_Child | s/you/your/ |
| 03:47.06 | Thunder_Child | ....damit |
| 03:47.08 | Bouvi | No I am on the advising council to the United States Chung Do Kwan organization. |
| 03:47.14 | Malivil | lol |
| 03:47.43 | Corrodias | i'm the executive dog trainer for the connie chung foundation |
| 03:47.44 | Bouvi | We have a few hundred schools in the US |
| 03:47.50 | Thunder_Child | thats ok, thats alot of children getting kicked in the head...they wont remember anyways |
| 03:47.56 | Industrial | lol |
| 03:47.57 | Bouvi | LOL |
| 03:48.37 | Corrodias | eugenics is great, as long as i get to be in charge of choosing who gets to reproduce. |
| 03:51.43 | Industrial | mmmm no, no, no, oo lah lah, no... hmm touhcaseNO hahaha, no, no. |
| 03:51.50 | Industrial | xD |
| 03:52.20 | Industrial | tough* |
| 03:52.39 | Thunder_Child | that does kinda go hand in hand with the darwin awards |
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| 03:53.47 | Bouvi | Put up a sign. Dive off cliff. If you survive you get $10 |
| 03:54.18 | Industrial | theres a quest thats exactly that in 1k needles |
| 03:54.27 | Industrial | you get 1250xp |
| 03:54.29 | Industrial | :P |
| 03:54.39 | Bouvi | Really should be easy with slowfall |
| 03:54.47 | Bouvi | Horde or Alliance? |
| 03:54.52 | Industrial | nah you dont die you get teleported back |
| 03:54.53 | Industrial | horde |
| 03:55.37 | bleetah | I've got a suggestion I'd like to make to Blizz, but would appreciate community feedback first. add "Incompatible" to the .toc - http://normal.blog.planet-warcraft.com/2007/01/01/warcraft-addon-toc-api-change-suggestion/ <- please feel free to leave a comment (pings ckknight Cairenn|afk) |
| 03:55.54 | ckknight | I saw that, bleetah |
| 03:56.14 | ckknight | the TOC really could be bettter |
| 03:56.15 | ckknight | better* |
| 03:56.17 | Industrial | hm if wow would be real and you could just walk back to your body every time do you think there would be self-mutilating lunatic guilds that jump off cliffs for the rush? :D |
| 03:56.23 | ckknight | especially with regard to LoadOnDemand and dependencies |
| 03:56.28 | ckknight | I want OR'd dependencies |
| 03:56.40 | Corrodias | with immortality, Industrial? of course i'd jump off things |
| 03:57.03 | Wobin | I'd jump off lots of things |
| 03:57.07 | bleetah | ckknight: I'm hoping blizz will go 'ooh, faster loading? sure!' ;-) |
| 03:57.21 | ckknight | mmm... not sure about that |
| 03:57.30 | bleetah | heh, j/k |
| 03:57.58 | Thunder_Child | i'd jump off things with a parachute |
| 03:58.00 | Corrodias | i have collected a bunch of WoW porn. most of it is horrifying. |
| 03:58.06 | cladhaire | Doesn't seem like something that belongs in the .toc |
| 03:58.22 | Bouvi | Yeah WoW Porn does not belong in the .toc at all. |
| 03:58.27 | cladhaire | that's kind of against the grain of what Blizzard wants the .toc doing |
| 03:58.52 | ckknight | why, cladhaire? |
| 03:59.09 | Wobin | it should be self contained, really |
| 03:59.15 | Industrial | in the lue, yeah |
| 03:59.16 | Wobin | not "I don't play well with others" |
| 03:59.26 | cladhaire | Why should Blizzard be handling two addons not working well together? |
| 03:59.30 | Industrial | just disable yourself if you find another addon's object |
| 03:59.45 | Cide | adding that would lead to a lot of angry mod makers and ultimately users |
| 03:59.47 | Industrial | (that you comflict with) |
| 04:00.12 | cladhaire | it just doesn't make sense |
| 04:00.22 | cladhaire | the .toc enforces load order, and that's really it. |
| 04:00.49 | cladhaire | i'm not sure it shoudl be doing more than that. |
| 04:01.01 | bleetah | isn't part of 'load order' including 'don't load <blah>'? |
| 04:01.44 | Corrodias | "don't load this file" can be enforced by just not putting the filename into the .toc |
| 04:01.44 | Cide | or·der (ôr'dər) pronunciation |
| 04:01.44 | Cide | n. |
| 04:01.44 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.47 | Cide | I would say no |
| 04:02.09 | Corrodias | if you put "bob.lua" into your addon's folder but don't put the name into the .toc, it isn't loaded. problem solved. |
| 04:02.11 | Cide | Corrodias: read up :) |
| 04:02.21 | Cide | it's about inter-addon "don't load this" |
| 04:02.28 | Corrodias | i refuse to scroll up |
| 04:02.33 | Corrodias | that would require caring! |
| 04:03.21 | Corrodias | it's best to just undo the other addon's changes and unload it in your .lua on an "addons_loaded" event |
| 04:03.30 | Corrodias | if you really want to sabotage other addons |
| 04:03.37 | Cide | which you definitely shouldn't do |
| 04:03.48 | cladhaire | I agree it sucks, but it shoudln't have been done the way it was in the first place. |
| 04:03.59 | cladhaire | what we have now is probably the proper end result. |
| 04:04.17 | Corrodias | what way was something done, now? |
| 04:04.30 | Cide | read up |
| 04:04.31 | Corrodias | i'm reading up but i don't really understand the problem |
| 04:04.39 | Cide | ok |
| 04:04.50 | Corrodias | you're talking about... having a .toc tell WoW not to load other addons? |
| 04:04.56 | bleetah | http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20280 was wowace's original 'solution' |
| 04:05.07 | cladhaire | Corrodias: Yes. |
| 04:05.10 | Cide | bugsack & buggrabber did, for some incredibly stupid reason, attempt to disable swatter because they were incompatible |
| 04:05.15 | cladhaire | dont' load RDX, load PerfectRaid |
| 04:05.21 | bleetah | we got a better one, eventually, but yeah doing that original stuff merely because an addon is incompatible is weird, and just got me thinking how better it could be handled |
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| 04:05.37 | bleetah | I think the word 'optimised' was used, too |
| 04:05.41 | Corrodias | how many addons are truly incompatible? |
| 04:05.44 | Cide | not loading perfectraid will be a pet project of mine; all my mods shall disable it |
| 04:06.00 | cladhaire | i only load if Ace is enabled. |
| 04:06.26 | Corrodias | you should load only if a randomly generated number is within a certain range |
| 04:06.27 | Cide | takes at least 35 ace addons to load ctra (since they negate the memory footprint of ctra) |
| 04:06.39 | Corrodias | 25% load rate |
| 04:07.23 | Cide | jokes aside, I think adding an incompatibility tag will just lead to unnecessary problems |
| 04:07.59 | Bouvi | Everyone have a Happy New Year. Will see you all next year. |
| 04:08.07 | Wobin | What, 2008? =) |
| 04:08.08 | bleetah | happy and safe new year Bouvi |
| 04:08.27 | Bouvi | LOL Bleetah, safe is easy. I don't drink and I am at home. :) |
| 04:08.30 | Bouvi | Night all |
| 04:08.34 | bleetah | Cide: well, I'm kinda really hoping it's more of a problem at the moment, where several projects are rapidly churning through releases, causing minor bugs with interaction |
| 04:08.48 | bleetah | Cide: and will 'clear up' within a few weeks of BC going live |
| 04:08.54 | cladhaire | there just isn't that much that can be incompatible. |
| 04:08.57 | Wobin | most addons don't necessarily conflict |
| 04:09.19 | Wobin | since most people only ever download one or the other I imagine? |
| 04:09.30 | bleetah | i could've stopped three days of bug reports by incompatible-ing every lootlink at one stage ;) |
| 04:09.44 | bleetah | as an eg |
| 04:10.39 | ckknight | well, the BugGrabber vs. Swatter problem is fixed now, no reason to keep galavanting on about it |
| 04:11.17 | bleetah | ckknight: I know, i'm looking at the 'issue' of incompatible mods more generally now. once again, I thank you for your efforts in sorting that one out |
| 04:11.17 | Cide | there is very much reason to complain about it |
| 04:11.40 | Cide | more specifically, I'm curious what the hell is/was going on in the head(s) of whomever put that in |
| 04:12.11 | bleetah | for me, it's closed. but I'd hate to think RDX would remove CTRaid without some kind of easy user feedback available by default (not saying they would, purely an eg) |
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| 04:12.34 | cladhaire | Why not just warn |
| 04:12.36 | cladhaire | with a static popup? |
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| 04:14.18 | cladhaire | Thats what I do with my incompatibilities.. I could change the CVar, but thats a bad idea. |
| 04:14.47 | Corrodias | what's RDX? |
| 04:14.58 | Corrodias | and why can't that work at the same time as CTRA? |
| 04:15.16 | bleetah | cladhaire: yeah, but they'd have to be ingame for that to happen. no way of fixing the issue before entering the world, like there is now with just 'disabled' based off Interface |
| 04:15.50 | cladhaire | bleetah: Understood, but it was the right move, not outright disabling.. that's the same as trojan code |
| 04:15.51 | bleetah | and once ingame, there's no guarantee that the incompatibility won't nuke various SV's and stuff, causing us devs headaches |
| 04:16.18 | Corrodias | oh, variable name conflicts? |
| 04:16.54 | cladhaire | yes but that's for the addon to manage, not the game engine. |
| 04:17.16 | Corrodias | it seems to me that any non-local variables should be named like... RDX.var1 |
| 04:17.51 | cladhaire | somethign like load order would be INSANE to handle on the lua side of things |
| 04:17.53 | cladhaire | this is managable. |
| 04:17.54 | bleetah | Hmm, I'm starting to get the impression that I don't understand the entire login sequence and where the 'addons' page sits within it |
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| 04:18.29 | bleetah | or, I do, just have it a over t |
| 04:18.36 | Corrodias | a/t? |
| 04:18.50 | Corrodias | i don't even understand enough to see the problem |
| 04:23.29 | cladhaire | bleetah: The addons page sits after you've logged in, but before you enter the game.. and all the .toc does currently is enforce load order.. it doesn't seem consistent to have addons disabling each other at that level.. who wins if you have both there? The game makes you choose? Ther'e no mechanism for that sort of thing at the moment, and I'm not sure there should be. |
| 04:23.39 | cladhaire | Any incompatibilities can be coded in the mod itself |
| 04:26.25 | Corrodias | why should things ever be incompatible!? |
| 04:26.43 | cladhaire | it really would only happen in a very corner case, like this one. |
| 04:26.57 | Corrodias | like what one? i've never heard of either of those addons |
| 04:27.08 | cladhaire | they both handler errors |
| 04:27.12 | cladhaire | there can only be one error handler |
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| 04:27.17 | bleetah | order: A condition of logical or comprehensible arrangement among the separate elements of a group. logic: 'and' & 'not' are logical operators |
| 04:27.26 | cladhaire | just add water, instant drama |
| 04:27.44 | cladhaire | bleetah: Why can't you do it in the lua? |
| 04:27.48 | Corrodias | it sounds like the end user would be silly to enable both, then |
| 04:28.00 | Corrodias | or, rather, he has full power to solve the problem by disabling one |
| 04:28.07 | cladhaire | Corrodias: Absolutely correct |
| 04:28.16 | Corrodias | yay, i'm correct about something! |
| 04:28.27 | cladhaire | bleetah: This just doesn't solve the problem. Either you have to specifically take every possible addon into account, and put it in the .toc.. or manage it yourself. |
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| 04:32.06 | cladhaire | the problem is a.) a user enabling two addon that shouldn't both be loaded, or b.) addons doing things in an incompatible manner. |
| 04:34.48 | cladhaire | it'd be handy, but its just as much of a hack as what we'd have now.. and I think I'd rather slouken's time was spent on other things :P |
| 04:34.52 | Wobin | which is why I can't see the whole kerfuffle about the entire issue anyway =P |
| 04:34.52 | bleetah | hrm, so I guess what you're saying is it's replacing one arms race with another .. which is of course true |
| 04:35.08 | cladhaire | yep, and one involves slouken, which is bad imho =) |
| 04:35.09 | bleetah | heh, yeah that's fer sure |
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| 04:41.24 | MentalPower|Poof | Happy New Year!!! |
| 04:54.16 | ckknight | mmm... crabs legs |
| 04:54.48 | cladhaire | MentalPower: Happy New Year to you too! |
| 04:59.49 | Malivil | Happy New Year! |
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| 05:04.38 | Thunder_Child | good to see that works |
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| 05:13.29 | Garoun|Loupana | happy east coast NY |
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| 05:45.52 | TonyD | how do I change action bar pages? |
| 05:46.32 | TonyD | nm |
| 05:51.41 | MentalPower|Poof | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=60757561 |
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| 06:55.34 | Industrial | http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/415/screenshot1dl8.png |
| 06:55.39 | Industrial | lol. |
| 06:56.59 | Cairenn|afk | Happy New Years everyone :) |
| 06:57.08 | Industrial | you too cairenn |
| 06:57.17 | Industrial | hm that kinda wants to make me have 2 monitors :( |
| 07:01.04 | End | uh oh, my calendar reads 2007! |
| 07:03.57 | ckknight | still 2006 here |
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| 07:11.56 | Guillotine | 2006 for another 50 minutes!!! |
| 07:12.38 | Cairenn|afk | 2 hours in, here |
| 07:14.03 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips <-- not ace-specific, but can be very helpful |
| 07:15.02 | Guillotine | Cairenn|afk: pfft. but only PST matters, right? |
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| 07:18.08 | Kaivarri_ | Anyone in here? |
| 07:18.14 | Cairenn | nope |
| 07:18.22 | ckknight | sorry, Kaivarri_ |
| 07:18.26 | ckknight | everyone left for the party |
| 07:18.34 | ckknight | it is new year's, after all |
| 07:18.35 | Cairenn | already gave at the office, don't want any, sorry |
| 07:18.41 | Kaivarri_ | Lol |
| 07:18.48 | Cairenn | left my wallet in my other jacket |
| 07:18.54 | Kaivarri_ | How can I download the beta of auctioneer? |
| 07:19.01 | Guillotine | ~auctioneer |
| 07:19.07 | purl | the greatest WoW auction mod ever. see ~auctioneerbeta |
| 07:19.08 | Cairenn | Auctioneer 4.0 & Gatherer 3.0 (http://norganna.org/discuss/discussion/3008) | Test versions: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl & http://gathereraddon.com/dl | Post bugs here, Don't PM | http://norganna.pastey.net/ | http://norganna.org/up | ~auctstuff | #wowi-lounge for general chatter | Patience, my young padawan. |
| 07:19.35 | Guillotine | this time, Cairenn > purl |
| 07:19.39 | Kaivarri_ | yeah, I'm not seeing the beta on the download page, maybe I'm not reading it right... |
| 07:20.17 | Industrial | ckknight: I edited that page (first tip) |
| 07:20.21 | ckknight | Cairenn cheated and stole the topic from #norganna |
| 07:20.39 | Cairenn | Kaivarri_: at the bottom of the page linked, under "Other downloads & dev versions" |
| 07:20.51 | ckknight | ah, very good, Industrial |
| 07:20.57 | Industrial | ; |
| 07:20.58 | Cairenn | "NOTE: These release versions are not yet WoW 2.0 compatable |
| 07:20.58 | Cairenn | See the bottom section for developer test versions." |
| 07:20.58 | Industrial | ;) |
| 07:21.13 | Kaivarri_ | ahh, okie dokie, thank you |
| 07:21.13 | cladhaire | ckknight: I posted in the discussion page, but you'd be better off removing the bulk of your comments. They don't express any reason information and come across as quite biased. Just a suggestion. |
| 07:21.51 | ckknight | discussion page? |
| 07:21.59 | cladhaire | yes, each wiki page has a talk page |
| 07:22.02 | cladhaire | welcome to wiki-land =) |
| 07:22.08 | ckknight | oh, that |
| 07:22.15 | cladhaire | so you can discuss an article without writing on the page itself. |
| 07:22.56 | ckknight | yea, I understand, but it's nice to have the discussion by each tip, makes it more transparent instead of behind-the-scenes |
| 07:23.00 | ckknight | just an opinion, though |
| 07:23.06 | cladhaire | well, for example in the first one |
| 07:23.10 | cladhaire | your statement barely has any english meaning |
| 07:23.18 | cladhaire | whereas the comment after yours expressed fact about the reasoning =) |
| 07:23.33 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 07:23.38 | ckknight | I just kinda wanted to put _something_ down |
| 07:23.39 | cladhaire | "Global pollution should be avoided and there is no good reason for it not to be." |
| 07:23.42 | cladhaire | understoofd |
| 07:23.45 | cladhaire | but it seems forced |
| 07:23.51 | ckknight | meh |
| 07:23.53 | Industrial | i was going to add "local g=setfenv(0)" to that, but I dont know how to add that discussion page stamp. |
| 07:23.54 | cladhaire | and it hink the discussion will be more appropriate if it comes naturally |
| 07:23.55 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 07:23.58 | cladhaire | depends on oyru audience. |
| 07:24.24 | Industrial | how do I add that stamp thing? its automatic? |
| 07:24.37 | ckknight | : ~~~ |
| 07:24.40 | ckknight | : ~~~~ |
| 07:25.54 | Industrial | k |
| 07:27.06 | ckknight | alright, cladhaire, I took out the forced ones |
| 07:27.35 | cladhaire | I just think you'll find a better response from the overall community that way =) |
| 07:27.42 | cladhaire | you've got what, two more hours til New Years? |
| 07:27.53 | ckknight | 2 and a half |
| 07:28.06 | cladhaire | cool :P |
| 07:28.12 | cladhaire | my boyfriend'll be hitting in a half hour |
| 07:28.16 | cladhaire | he's been drunk for 6 =) |
| 07:29.04 | Industrial | heh |
| 07:29.08 | ckknight | hitting? |
| 07:29.11 | ckknight | domestic abuse? |
| 07:30.07 | ckknight | or am I way off base? |
| 07:30.09 | Cairenn | hitting the new year |
| 07:30.13 | ckknight | oh. |
| 07:30.21 | Cairenn | pacific time |
| 07:30.26 | End | lol http://www.thottbot.com/beta?i=17759 |
| 07:30.41 | End | I thought what ckknight thought too actually |
| 07:31.52 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips#Discussion_7 |
| 07:31.53 | Industrial | :P |
| 07:32.59 | ckknight | hehe, Industrial |
| 07:36.52 | cladhaire | SOOO UGLY |
| 07:36.53 | cladhaire | http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1272/picture1fk3.png |
| 07:37.15 | Cairenn | that's pretty damn ugly, yup |
| 07:37.32 | cladhaire | i do what i can =) |
| 07:37.33 | Cairenn | highly visible though |
| 07:37.40 | cladhaire | i tried to make the orange more obnoxious |
| 07:37.48 | cladhaire | but i reached my limits, actually |
| 07:37.56 | End | that's horribly ugly |
| 07:38.07 | Cairenn | make the pink even hotter |
| 07:38.08 | cladhaire | ya know, i do what i can folks =) |
| 07:38.09 | End | you might be able to make that more ugly, but you'd have to tr |
| 07:38.10 | End | y |
| 07:38.30 | Cairenn | that's still just medium pink, you need to have it be really really hot pink |
| 07:38.35 | cladhaire | i chose that pink specifically for you =) |
| 07:38.48 | ckknight | pink = sex |
| 07:39.05 | Cairenn | the brown has to go though, it almost looks good - change it to lime green or something |
| 07:39.20 | Industrial | cladhaire: I think you should like work together with haste (PING) cause his looked similar and even orange too. but yeah, less eyestabbing :( |
| 07:39.37 | cladhaire | his was a different color |
| 07:39.45 | cladhaire | and if the buttons weren't nasty, it wouldn't be that bad. |
| 07:39.46 | Industrial | oh |
| 07:39.47 | cladhaire | except the color |
| 07:39.49 | cladhaire | buti can't change it at the moment. |
| 07:40.02 | Industrial | ZE GOGGLEZ ZEY ZO NOZINGK |
| 07:40.14 | Industrial | xD |
| 07:40.25 | Industrial | not that I can do any better tho, so ill shut up :> |
| 07:40.36 | cladhaire | its actually really nice |
| 07:40.39 | cladhaire | especially the way its done |
| 07:40.45 | cladhaire | the color and the buttons are the issue =) |
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| 07:57.18 | Industrial | ding |
| 07:57.22 | Industrial | 28 |
| 07:57.31 | ckknight | gz |
| 07:59.57 | Guillotine | 10 |
| 08:00.03 | Guillotine | 5 |
| 08:00.08 | Guillotine | HAPPY NEW YEAR PST!!! |
| 08:00.12 | Esamynn | HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!! =D |
| 08:00.19 | Industrial | woot |
| 08:00.19 | Industrial | :D |
| 08:02.34 | cogwheel | ding 2007! |
| 08:02.42 | End | gratz! |
| 08:02.44 | End | :P |
| 08:03.58 | VoidRaider|afk | Morning everyone, and happy new year! :) |
| 08:08.55 | kremonte | wow fireworks :O |
| 08:09.06 | kremonte | noisy little things |
| 08:09.18 | Wobin | man you should ahve seen the ones we had |
| 08:09.31 | Wobin | three separate locations, and also about 5 or so building faces |
| 08:10.00 | Wobin | I'm always impressed that they manage to outdo the previous year, each year |
| 08:10.26 | kremonte | i'm talking about fireworks in wow |
| 08:10.26 | kremonte | =p |
| 08:11.24 | Wobin | oh =P |
| 08:11.33 | Wobin | Oh well, Sydney still has better fireworks =P |
| 08:14.02 | cladhaire | lol |
| 08:14.06 | cladhaire | i dont think we do fireworks |
| 08:14.13 | cladhaire | but that's what happens when you live in upstate new york =) |
| 08:15.07 | Industrial | this year here firework that used to be illegal was legalized |
| 08:15.26 | Industrial | so everyone got big banging shit >:) |
| 08:18.36 | Industrial | a mob using Lightning Cloud INSIDE a cave |
| 08:18.40 | Industrial | nref |
| 08:19.07 | End | it's when they use entangling roots inside of a cave |
| 08:19.12 | End | that's what annoys me |
| 08:19.16 | Industrial | yeh |
| 08:19.48 | End | to be fair, I can root people inside of caves..it matters where -I- stand, not my target |
| 08:20.22 | Industrial | lol |
| 08:20.47 | cogwheel | is there any way to set a button as disabled in XML? |
| 08:21.00 | End | I think so |
| 08:21.12 | Guillotine | you have to remove the onclick and set it as grey |
| 08:21.13 | VoidRaider|VR | just use this:disable() ? |
| 08:21.26 | End | wtf |
| 08:21.28 | Industrial | its fun how all caves seem to be the same |
| 08:21.30 | End | is wowwiki drunk |
| 08:21.33 | cogwheel | VoidRaider|VR: that's what i'm doing ... was wondering about a straight xml method |
| 08:21.38 | VoidRaider|VR | hmm |
| 08:21.39 | End | wowwiki is definitely drunk |
| 08:21.41 | Industrial | its durotarall over! |
| 08:22.14 | VoidRaider|VR | I don't think there is mate, but you never know :P |
| 08:22.23 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 08:22.34 | Guillotine | cogwheel: use template "UIPanelButtonGrayTemplate" |
| 08:22.46 | VoidRaider|VR | Ind have you done with your Unit Frames ? :) |
| 08:22.51 | Cairenn | okay, how the heck did you guys do that? |
| 08:22.58 | Guillotine | do what? |
| 08:23.06 | Cairenn | the wiki |
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| 08:23.17 | Cairenn | that is just too funny |
| 08:23.28 | End | I didn't do it! |
| 08:23.31 | Guillotine | WOW, that is so awesome!!! |
| 08:23.31 | End | I blame kirkburn |
| 08:23.39 | End | even though, I have no idea who did it |
| 08:23.56 | Guillotine | haha, all the images are blurry |
| 08:24.03 | End | I imagine there is a mediawiki extension you can install |
| 08:24.30 | Guillotine | only front page is changed, so it could easily have just been done manually |
| 08:24.41 | End | probably |
| 08:24.47 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 08:25.09 | End | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=393385&oldid=391063 |
| 08:25.17 | End | I blame Tekkub then |
| 08:25.42 | Guillotine | I applaud him for going through all the work of doing that |
| 08:26.07 | Guillotine | I need an IRC filter to do that |
| 08:26.17 | Guillotine | acshually, no I don't...hic! |
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| 08:33.05 | VoidRaider|VR | Hmm if I want to upload a Beta version of my mod on WoWInterface, what would I use Upload a patch or Upload an addon ? a suggestion and my guess they're both appear on the list of "Patch & Add-on List" under a different type ? if that's the case I think it's better to add a radio button and use one link :P |
| 08:34.46 | Cairenn | upload a beta version of it to the Beta section |
| 08:35.50 | VoidRaider|VR | Hmm how can I do it, I can't see a link or anything :/ |
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| 08:37.01 | Cairenn | go to the beta section, press upload ;) |
| 08:37.08 | VoidRaider|VR | haha ok :) |
| 08:37.30 | VoidRaider|VR | I'm kinda new there so sorry :) |
| 08:37.46 | Cairenn | no worries :) |
| 08:39.25 | cladhaire | So guess whats almost ready for beta? =) |
| 08:39.30 | Cairenn | yay |
| 08:40.45 | VoidRaider|VR | What's that magic you're hiding Clad ? |
| 08:40.52 | VoidRaider|VR | :D |
| 08:41.51 | VoidRaider|VR | Car would the Beta version appear at my Addon page ? |
| 08:42.18 | VoidRaider|VR | Cair* |
| 08:42.36 | Cairenn | yup |
| 08:42.36 | VoidRaider|VR | ah ok thanks :) |
| 08:42.51 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 08:48.43 | fireglow | hello. i have a question: does freenode offer encrypted access to its servers? |
| 08:49.58 | fireglow | ssl i mean |
| 08:51.23 | cladhaire | not sure tbh |
| 08:51.32 | bleetah | dunno, i know they support tor |
| 08:53.01 | VoidRaider|VR | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml |
| 08:53.17 | VoidRaider|VR | Does freenode provide SSL-based client access? |
| 08:53.24 | VoidRaider|VR | read :) |
| 08:53.51 | fireglow | thanks :D |
| 08:53.58 | VoidRaider|VR | np ^^ |
| 08:54.01 | cladhaire | zomg so rude! |
| 08:54.03 | cladhaire | pft! |
| 08:54.24 | VoidRaider|VR | haha :P |
| 08:56.32 | fireglow | -.- |
| 08:56.51 | VoidRaider|VR | :( |
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| 09:24.31 | VoidRaider|VR | Can I upload programs to WoWInterface ? and what's the procedure ? :) |
| 09:24.58 | ckknight | VoidRaider|VR: must include source code |
| 09:25.06 | VoidRaider|VR | k :) |
| 09:25.37 | ckknight | (which is more of a keylogger check than anything, probably) |
| 09:25.46 | Cairenn | pretty much |
| 09:25.52 | Neuro_Medivh | not like they compare the source to the exe |
| 09:26.04 | ckknight | yea, but it provides less incentive. |
| 09:26.06 | Cairenn | making sure that you aren't including anything "nasty" |
| 09:26.14 | Neuro_Medivh | like pr0n? |
| 09:26.20 | VoidRaider|VR | haha :P |
| 09:26.20 | Neuro_Medivh | cause, imho, that's ok |
| 09:26.35 | bleetah | as long as it's gnome hunter pron, i'm cool with it |
| 09:26.43 | ckknight | ss! |
| 09:26.51 | Neuro_Medivh | who doesn't like a little flash in the pan with their UI addons? |
| 09:26.55 | VoidRaider|VR | I have no problem to attach the source it serves the community :) |
| 09:27.01 | VoidRaider|VR | lol |
| 09:27.09 | Neuro_Medivh | just be sure to also attach pr0n |
| 09:27.23 | Neuro_Medivh | make sure you add a little something something for Cairenn too |
| 09:27.26 | VoidRaider|VR | I'll try, you want video or images ? |
| 09:27.40 | VoidRaider|VR | Respect! :P |
| 09:27.45 | bleetah | ascii gnome hunter pron mmmm |
| 09:28.54 | Neuro_Medivh | So Cairenn, are you more the "Brad Pitt" or the "Daniel Craig" type? |
| 09:29.58 | Neuro_Medivh | Vee haf vays auf making you tahk! |
| 09:30.49 | Cairenn | uh huh |
| 09:31.19 | VoidRaider|VR | Depends where is she from ? my guess is ... hard to tell haha :) |
| 09:31.19 | Neuro_Medivh | Heinrich! Bring in... the Red Food Dye No. 2! |
| 09:31.35 | Neuro_Medivh | Yes, joo are scared now, I can tell |
| 09:31.40 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:31.47 | Neuro_Medivh | Red Food Dye No. 2, the most deadly food dye of all |
| 09:32.01 | Neuro_Medivh | known to cause cancer in laboratory rats! |
| 09:32.03 | Neuro_Medivh | Muhahahah! |
| 09:32.12 | Neuro_Medivh | It is almost too diabolical! |
| 09:32.28 | Wobin | oh man |
| 09:32.36 | Wobin | Neuro_Medivh is made from PEOPLE |
| 09:32.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Yes, this is true... two, to be specific |
| 09:33.11 | Mike-N-Go | Can someone explain the hooksecurefunc, I know I need to use it for my addon but I am not sure how to use it. |
| 09:33.55 | Neuro_Medivh | you don't need to worry about it.. just hook it however you want, and ignore the taint. Some other addon will take the blame. |
| 09:34.33 | Wobin | I'm kinda glad acehooks does that for me =P I think Mike-N-Go, what the secure hook is for is so that your function will be called -after- the hooked function completes so you can't affect any inner working variables of that function |
| 09:34.55 | VoidRaider|VR | ok I uploaded the program :) |
| 09:35.19 | VoidRaider|VR | Hope you won't find monsters in it lol |
| 09:35.21 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, I under stand that a bit better now. |
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| 09:37.13 | Neuro_Medivh | I swear to God, if I see another "Random Mount Macro" request, I'm gonna start beating people |
| 09:37.29 | VoidRaider|VR | haha |
| 09:37.31 | Cairenn | VoidRaider|VR: I'm sure it'll be fine, most folks that are going to upload something malicious, sure as hell won't be sitting in here talking about it |
| 09:37.44 | VoidRaider|VR | haha ofc :) |
| 09:37.58 | Cairenn | VoidRaider|VR: and no worries, we'll delete the source code before we make it avail for download |
| 09:38.11 | Cairenn | the one and only time we "mess with" an author's files |
| 09:38.41 | VoidRaider|VR | I also uploaded it to Worldofwar and they confirmed it, close to 2000 downloads :) |
| 09:39.03 | Cairenn | unfortunately, I'm not the one that has to check it, since I don't have a secure machine, so you'll have to wait on Dolby-wowi being around to verify it |
| 09:39.09 | VoidRaider|VR | I setup my portal now and it's seems cool :) |
| 09:39.20 | VoidRaider|VR | np I'll wait |
| 09:39.21 | Cairenn | glad you like :) |
| 09:40.03 | VoidRaider|VR | A bit confused about how the Beta section works tho :P |
| 09:40.25 | Cairenn | we have to get that better integrated, we're working on it |
| 09:40.34 | VoidRaider|VR | Ah great :) |
| 09:41.43 | Cairenn | there are so many things we'd like to do, things the community asks for, but with only Dolby-wowi to do all the coding for our 6 existing sites, as well as his "real" full-time job ... |
| 09:41.46 | VoidRaider|VR | I just think that it should be at the same addon page just like uploading a patch or an update but in a different list, my opinion of course :) |
| 09:42.03 | Cairenn | *nod* that's the sort of thing we'll be doing, just not there yet =/ |
| 09:42.10 | VoidRaider|VR | ^^ |
| 09:42.18 | VoidRaider|VR | Cool looking forward for it :) |
| 09:42.24 | VoidRaider|VR | Great job so far! :P |
| 09:42.31 | Cairenn | feedback is always good :) |
| 09:42.38 | VoidRaider|VR | :D |
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| 09:51.22 | Guillotine | Mike-N-Go: way back to the hooksecurefunc. Its real easy |
| 09:51.43 | Guillotine | hooksecurefunc("functiontohook",functiontocallwithsameparameters) |
| 09:51.49 | VoidRaider|VR | One more thing Cair if it's possible and it's only a suggestion adding a version history to the addon page :D |
| 09:52.21 | Guillotine | Mike-N-Go: check out BouncersAnonymous(http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5571/bouncersanonymous/) for a real simple example of using it |
| 09:52.44 | Guillotine | I should upload that to WoWI actually since most people are using it to learn from. and it isn't just a useless addon anymore :P |
| 09:56.46 | dpak | pardon me, I am new here, but have not been able to find a faq for proper etiquitte...dont want to offend with my newbness. |
| 09:58.18 | Guillotine | dpak: don't worry, we don't bite :) |
| 09:58.19 | Guillotine | usually |
| 09:58.25 | dpak | lol...thanks good to know. |
| 09:58.26 | Cairenn | if you get out of line, someone will let you know :) |
| 10:00.31 | dpak | Thanks, appreciate it. Please pardon me if my question is too simple, or not apropriate for this channel. I am trying to add a help screen (i.e. pop up window, with a paragraph or two of text) to an add on. I have not been able to find a good example of how to make text with more than just a sentence or two. |
| 10:01.58 | Cairenn | unfortunately for you, you've picked a quiet time at the best of times, and even more so right now, with it being New Years and all ... |
| 10:02.11 | dpak | lol...yes, I udnerstand. |
| 10:02.14 | Guillotine | dpak: try just making a large label |
| 10:02.22 | Cairenn | so please don't take a lack of answer as being ignored |
| 10:02.26 | Cairenn | or personal |
| 10:02.34 | Guillotine | if you set the dimensions to full up the entire frame, you can fit paragraphs of text in there |
| 10:02.45 | dpak | Oh, I do not. I realize that most folks may be in bed or passed out about now......or in game! |
| 10:02.48 | Guillotine | s/full/fill |
| 10:03.03 | Guillotine | I fail at purl :( |
| 10:04.13 | amro | you just need to make your frame and label big enough, nothing special |
| 10:04.23 | dpak | ok, making a large label. Do I concatenate the strings together? Or define one long block of text? (I am very new at this, please paron me). |
| 10:04.29 | Islorgris | have you tried putting it in html format dpak ? |
| 10:04.46 | Guillotine | you can do html format? I dunthink so |
| 10:04.48 | dpak | actually, no I have not. fascinating. |
| 10:04.56 | Guillotine | dpak: use \n to seperate lines |
| 10:04.58 | amro | you can put it all in one string if you want |
| 10:05.11 | Guillotine | and just put it in one string |
| 10:05.16 | Islorgris | the help pages for gatherer are in html (same as myAddons) |
| 10:05.22 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 10:05.30 | Guillotine | didn't know that was possible. you learn something new every day |
| 10:05.35 | dpak | fascinating, I will take a look at them. |
| 10:05.51 | dpak | and on creating a large label text. |
| 10:06.19 | dpak | I looked at wowi.pastey.net, but was not able to determin how to search the examples there. |
| 10:06.35 | Guillotine | anyway, its 2 here, so I'm off to bed. Happy New Year everyone! |
| 10:07.02 | dpak | good night, and thank you for your help. |
| 10:07.45 | zenzelezz | pastey isn't really used much for general examples, it's just so we don't spam the channel with tons of code |
| 10:07.49 | amro | dpak: a lot of the code on pastey has a problem somewhere :P |
| 10:08.13 | amro | best thing to do is open up the xml of an addon you know has what you're looking for |
| 10:08.17 | Corrodias | thus, it has good examples of what not to do |
| 10:08.32 | amro | im assuming you already have a frame with a label that works? |
| 10:08.51 | dpak | yes, I have done that. |
| 10:09.26 | amro | then just increase their size |
| 10:09.51 | dpak | I did not know if there was a limit to my assigning text to the label....I need a whole paragraph. |
| 10:10.07 | amro | then put in a whole paragraph :) |
| 10:10.13 | dpak | :) |
| 10:10.24 | amro | if the frame isn't big enough you make it larger... myFrame:SetWidth() myFrame:SetHeight() |
| 10:12.14 | dpak | got it. I will try that. I am new at this, and it is a bit slow going decipering the logic of existing add ons and the syntax of lua and xml. |
| 10:13.13 | dpak | I mod existing add ons for my guild, adding or removing features, and adding online help boxes on how to use them. |
| 10:13.38 | dpak | as most folks will not use a read me file or ever go look at a website. |
| 10:13.40 | amro | it would help to have the lua manual handy if you're confused by the syntax |
| 10:13.41 | amro | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 10:14.15 | dpak | I have been reviewing it...but helps to have in context of working add ons. |
| 10:14.37 | dpak | I have decided to break down and order a dead tree copy of that ....would you reccomend the other book as well? |
| 10:14.52 | amro | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 10:14.54 | dpak | reccomen. |
| 10:15.05 | amro | yeah, its great |
| 10:16.13 | dpak | ok, my typing is going...time to turn in. thanks, I do appreciate the advice. Happy New Year. |
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| 10:21.07 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 10:24.21 | VoidRaider|VR | night :) |
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| 10:36.00 | Shane__ | anyone know how/if you can set a button attribute that makes it go invisable if it unpopulated? |
| 10:36.17 | Shane__ | err if it is not populated by an action |
| 10:36.57 | amro | you can manually hide it |
| 10:38.41 | Shane__ | how so? |
| 10:39.15 | Shane__ | I have a config ui that shows/hides buttons and it leaves them in a state where the button is visable even if its empty I want to fix that |
| 10:47.55 | amro | did you try :Hide()? |
| 10:49.41 | Shane__ | thats what I am doing... the problem is my configuration ui uses a slider and it :shows 1-12 depending on setting.. I want the button to be availible for the user to drag actions too it but I dont want it to be visable if nothing is in it |
| 10:50.31 | Shane__ | the way it is setup now all buttons show up only until someone drags an action then the empty buttons disapear like they should.. I just want to trigger that behavior manually |
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| 11:07.52 | VoidRaider|VR | You can try SetAlpha, though I haven't seen your code so I dunno :P |
| 11:11.24 | Shane__ | ya that would just hide all of the buttons |
| 11:12.19 | VoidRaider|VR | Not if you giving it a specific frame, however it depends on the case and your XML structure :) |
| 11:12.40 | Shane__ | my button update logic is pretty simple, it just unhides/shows the correct number of buttons (based on config ui) and changes size (based on config ui) |
| 11:14.17 | Shane__ | Here is the simple 22 line button update logic |
| 11:14.19 | Shane__ | http://wowi.pastey.net/4293 |
| 11:14.52 | Shane__ | this gets called after each "On_Click" event in the /MyAddon Config ui |
| 11:16.17 | Shane__ | :Show seems to show a button, even if its empty.. but wow also seems to auto-hide them as soon as an actionable spell/item is dragged |
| 11:16.42 | Shane__ | If I could duplicate/call the "drag" event I could fix this easily |
| 11:18.35 | Industrial | I feel like making my own quest addon cause all the other ones suck :P |
| 11:19.07 | Industrial | i just want a big quest pane |
| 11:19.40 | Industrial | i like that i can put only 2-3 quests in the quest tracker (the ones im doing) |
| 11:19.53 | Industrial | but it forgets them every time |
| 11:20.05 | VoidRaider|VR | Hey, Ind I ask it in the 3rd time haha did you finish with your Unit Frame ? :P |
| 11:20.15 | Industrial | no buffs yet |
| 11:20.25 | VoidRaider|VR | oh ok I'll wait let me know :)) |
| 11:20.29 | Industrial | k |
| 11:20.50 | VoidRaider|VR | Shane I'm checking few things :) |
| 11:24.52 | Shane__ | k :) |
| 11:25.09 | Shane__ | I wonder if button:Show is setting btn.showgrid = true |
| 11:26.19 | nevcairiel | it doesnt |
| 11:26.39 | VoidRaider|VR | showgrid is only a frame var it has nothing to do with it :) |
| 11:27.26 | Shane__ | bummer |
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| 11:41.47 | VoidRaider|VR | Are you using any events ? it seems that there're events to do it ... |
| 11:42.27 | VoidRaider|VR | ACTIONBAR_SHOWGRID & ACTIONBAR_HIDEGRID however I'm not sure, I haven't tested it :) |
| 11:42.49 | Shane__ | yes I trigger my PartyBars_ChangeButtons events on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGE PLAYER_ALIVE ACTIONBAR_HIDEGRID NAD ACTIONBAR_SHOWGRID |
| 11:43.03 | VoidRaider|VR | ah ok |
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| 11:43.27 | Shane__ | oddly enough my PartyBars_ChangeButtons does not show the grids on any of those events |
| 11:43.28 | VoidRaider|VR | Your code seems fine to me, it's weird |
| 11:43.47 | Shane__ | only from the /MyAddons config ui |
| 11:44.01 | VoidRaider|VR | 1 sec :P |
| 11:44.21 | Shane__ | ill post the full code if u like its not that large 200 lines |
| 11:44.24 | VoidRaider|VR | It's not working through the command line it ? that's the problem ? |
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| 11:44.48 | VoidRaider|VR | yeah would be pretty good :) |
| 11:45.22 | Shane__ | http://wowi.pastey.net/4295 |
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| 11:52.44 | Shane__ | hmm TrinityBars seems to scan all 120 buttons and marks the ones with actions and then hides them or shows them manually... I would like to avoid such a hack heh |
| 11:55.23 | Shane__ | I could create/destory the frames / buttons on demand instead of creating them all up front and show/hidding them but that seems more complex then my current method :( |
| 11:56.21 | Shane__ | err that should read instead of showing/hiding pre-created buttons |
| 11:56.45 | zenzelezz | actually, you can't destroy frames |
| 11:56.47 | VoidRaider|VR | yeah, creating them on demand won't help you much, and you will end up with the same results at the end |
| 11:57.48 | VoidRaider|VR | true you can't destory them, but she/he meant to have a limit of frames available chosen by the user selection |
| 11:59.52 | Shane__ | btn:ClearAllPoints fixes the grid glitch, I could then resetup the attributes all in my PartyBars_ChangeButtons no? |
| 12:00.09 | Shane__ | seems like a lot of extra code for such a simple thing |
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| 12:04.11 | zenzelezz | funky... the Blackrock Depths meeting stone says it's for level 48-65 o_O |
| 12:07.09 | amro | as if people doing BRD at level 52 wasn't bad enough |
| 12:07.19 | amro | masochists |
| 12:08.09 | zenzelezz | I'm more wondering why level 65s would go there |
| 12:09.22 | amro | because the level 52s in guild beg them for heklp |
| 12:09.25 | amro | help* |
| 12:09.58 | amro | maybe they're going to add the difficulty thing for BRD? |
| 12:10.03 | zenzelezz | but you can still enter while higher level than the meeting stone says o_O Unless they're changing that |
| 12:10.38 | amro | yeah you can, except that the LFG feature won't allow you to queue up |
| 12:12.20 | zenzelezz | but then you're back to the "why-would-you" |
| 12:14.57 | amro | i wonder if dark iron will be useful past 60 |
| 12:15.20 | zenzelezz | wouldn't count on it... seems more likely that the new FR stuff will require Outlands materials |
| 12:16.32 | nevcairiel | there is heavy FR equip from heroic dungeon tokens |
| 12:16.35 | nevcairiel | like 60 FR on one item |
| 12:16.56 | zenzelezz | yeah, I've seen the new stuff; but didn't know how you got it |
| 12:17.04 | zenzelezz | sort of expected it to be another crafted set |
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| 12:47.42 | warla | hody |
| 12:47.44 | warla | howdy |
| 12:47.55 | warla | any Burning Crusade beta Horde around? :-) |
| 12:49.03 | amro | probably too hungover to talk on IRC :P |
| 12:49.20 | warla | heh true |
| 12:49.27 | warla | i had fucken too much alcohol too yesterday |
| 12:49.45 | warla | but the fact i ate tripple than what was good for me kinda "slowed" the alcohol effects |
| 12:51.16 | amro | not drinking at all kinda nullified the alcohol effects |
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| 13:11.15 | zenzelezz | they really messed up the NPC shouts sometime |
| 13:11.32 | amro | the variables? |
| 13:11.34 | zenzelezz | Firegut Ogre Mage yells: $N KILL! $G He:She; kill you now! RUN! RUN! |
| 13:11.50 | amro | yeah |
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| 13:44.38 | warla | any BC beta horde here? |
| 13:45.58 | dukeku | oh yeah, most def |
| 13:46.02 | dukeku | i have a 70 shaman! |
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| 13:54.30 | [Cu]Werik | Hello |
| 13:54.51 | [Cu]Werik | Can any of you recommend me a leightweight enemy castbar mod? |
| 13:55.40 | foxlit | Morning :) |
| 13:56.08 | Bouvi | I like http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5546 |
| 13:56.30 | foxlit | Mine is integrated with unitframes, so I'm afraid that's no help :( |
| 13:56.38 | [Cu]Werik | oh it has a new target bar |
| 13:56.46 | [Cu]Werik | Thanks, that will just do it Bouvi:) |
| 13:56.58 | Bouvi | Anytime :) |
| 13:57.06 | Bouvi | <- Addon Junkie |
| 13:57.13 | [Cu]Werik | -.- |
| 13:57.40 | [Cu]Werik | Happy new year btw:) |
| 13:57.49 | Bouvi | Yes Happy New Year to all. |
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| 14:14.02 | Fisker- | i am warla |
| 14:16.13 | zenzelezz | and I am zenzelezz, nice to meet you |
| 14:18.00 | Bouvi | I am Blackheart Bouvi and I have my own theme song viewable at www.bouvi.com :P |
| 14:25.23 | Bouvi | Holy cow our Dalmation needs Beano!!! |
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| 14:58.54 | Qshadowp | uhh i've just reinstalled wow |
| 14:59.06 | Qshadowp | with the patches do i have to download 1.12...2.0.1...2.0.3 |
| 14:59.11 | Qshadowp | or can i just download 2.0.3? |
| 15:01.17 | foxlit | 3 isn't live |
| 15:01.25 | foxlit | (yet) |
| 15:01.45 | foxlit | Just connect wow, and see what it downloads for you? |
| 15:02.13 | foxlit | As far as I know, there's no 1.x-2.0 patch yet, so you'll probably have to go with 1.x->1.12, 1.12->2.0.1 |
| 15:02.41 | Qshadowp | it currently wants 1.12 - 2.0.1 |
| 15:02.48 | Qshadowp | and i allready downloaded 1.12 before that |
| 15:03.08 | zenzelezz | 2.0.1 is live, so should be the last one you need to download |
| 15:03.11 | Qshadowp | the blizzard downloader really annoys me, it takes ALL of my upload bandwith and gives me constant disconnects on IRC and such.. |
| 15:03.21 | Qshadowp | ok :) |
| 15:03.24 | foxlit | wowwiki has a patches page. |
| 15:03.49 | Qshadowp | foxlit thats where i get my mirrors from :P |
| 15:03.53 | foxlit | There are quite a few websites hosting those as a normal HTTP download :) |
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| 15:04.09 | Qshadowp | heh :P |
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| 15:04.22 | Qshadowp | i think its kinda useless for blizzard to ninja our bandwith :< |
| 15:04.28 | zenzelezz | Qshadowp: you could also check WoW\Cache and see if there's a BackgroundDownload.torrent |
| 15:05.37 | Qshadowp | same problem occurs when i use torrents :P |
| 15:05.49 | Qshadowp | i only ever use a torrent if im sleeping, they ninja all my bandwtih :( |
| 15:05.52 | Qshadowp | i only have a 1mb connection |
| 15:06.06 | zenzelezz | most torrent programs let you set a max upload/download speed |
| 15:06.17 | Qshadowp | true that though :P |
| 15:06.23 | Qshadowp | meh im downloading the patch from a file mirror |
| 15:06.37 | Qshadowp | just over 4 times as fast as the blizzard downloader \o/ |
| 15:13.40 | Qshadowp | oh good god |
| 15:13.50 | Qshadowp | my friends joined the guild <Certified Water Vendor> with his mage |
| 15:13.51 | Qshadowp | :| |
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| 15:30.04 | zenzelezz | oh my... |
| 15:30.25 | zenzelezz | [Party] [D...]: i can backup heal with [Heavy Runecloth Bandage][Runecloth Bandage] |
| 15:30.32 | zenzelezz | and he's actually serious |
| 15:30.56 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 15:31.06 | Qshadowp | people have told me to heal before (im a mage) |
| 15:31.20 | Qshadowp | i was in a PvP premade guild and he said "ok, qshadow heal." |
| 15:31.29 | Qshadowp | "Kk [Runecloth Bandage] FTw |
| 15:31.33 | Qshadowp | \o/ |
| 15:32.09 | zenzelezz | I don't even know how many times I asked priests to sheep mobs... somehow it just took me a while to remember that it was mages that did that x.x |
| 15:32.23 | Qshadowp | lol :P |
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| 16:30.06 | ravagernl | Can anyone help with an issue in frame scaling of my addon? |
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| 16:47.07 | Garthnait | hello guys |
| 16:47.24 | Xolan[EU] | hola |
| 16:50.28 | Bouvi | Heya Garthnait, Happy New Year |
| 16:50.41 | Garthnait | thx and back |
| 16:51.24 | Garthnait | amro, are you here? |
| 16:52.30 | foxlit | ravagernl: shoot. |
| 16:52.36 | foxlit | And check that your frames are parented. |
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| 16:56.16 | warla | http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/reputation/ <-- layout finished :-) can start filling in the texts now |
| 16:58.41 | Xolan[EU] | you using a cms or made one yourself? :) |
| 16:59.48 | Xolan[EU] | looks very clean, can't wait to get some content up there |
| 17:01.20 | Garthnait | i've some questin. does lua know "or"? |
| 17:01.27 | End | yes |
| 17:01.47 | End | blah or foo and b |
| 17:01.57 | Garthnait | so i can define: local _, _, mob, dmg = string.find(arg1, GODLIKE_MELEEHIT) OR _, _, spell, mob, dmg = string.find(arg1, GODLIKE_ASHOTHIT) ?? |
| 17:01.59 | Xolan[EU] | remember to use complete statements though |
| 17:02.13 | Mikma | warla: your site is still slow ;) |
| 17:02.20 | End | hmmmm, don't think that'd work |
| 17:02.24 | Garthnait | hmm |
| 17:02.29 | End | = doesn't work like an operator |
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| 17:03.05 | End | each statement must have one =, unless it's a function call, in which case the = can be omitted |
| 17:03.25 | End | (or in cases where = is implied) |
| 17:03.38 | Garthnait | that i dont understand |
| 17:03.49 | End | I'm going into details you don't need to know |
| 17:03.51 | pastamancer | local _,_,mob,dmg,spell = string.find(...); if not mob then _,_,spell,mob,dmg = string.find(...) end |
| 17:05.12 | Garthnait | hmkay |
| 17:05.20 | pastamancer | or if you prefer: local spell,mob,dmg; mob,dmg = string.match(...); if not mob then spell,mob.dmg = string.match(...) end |
| 17:05.42 | pastamancer | s/mob\.dmg/mob,dmg/ |
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| 17:07.24 | Garthnait | my function is checking for "You crit...", if not it looks for "Your Auto Shot...", but the function when it finds that, do only appear when finding "Your Auto Shot..." |
| 17:07.33 | Garthnait | but it have to appear on both |
| 17:08.45 | Garthnait | the line are here: http://wowi.pastey.net/4313 |
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| 17:21.02 | Garthnait | i've found a way, but i think i will work easier: http://wowi.pastey.net/4314 |
| 17:21.50 | Kirkburn | Haha, http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page |
| 17:22.14 | Kirkburn | If you're confused, see the note top right |
| 17:22.45 | Garthnait | lol |
| 17:22.48 | Garthnait | funny ^^ |
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| 17:36.13 | foxlit | "Fanshitesh" |
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| 17:55.30 | Kirkburn | foxlit, it says that? |
| 17:56.09 | Kirkburn | lol, fixed |
| 17:56.26 | Kirkburn | It also said "Webshitesh" earlier |
| 17:57.14 | Tuller | bleh, I think its a no win situation for me with a bar design :P |
| 17:57.16 | ravagernl | Kirkburn, have you found any workaround for the dot bug in CF2? |
| 17:57.20 | ravagernl | yet? |
| 17:57.33 | Kirkburn | The workaround has been listed on the website for months :P |
| 17:57.50 | Kirkburn | It's: change your UI scale or reduce the ClearFont scale |
| 17:57.59 | Kirkburn | It's not a bug with ClearFont |
| 17:58.44 | ravagernl | Hmm yeah, reducing the scale makes the fonts look ugly :( |
| 17:59.01 | ravagernl | and I guess that's not your fault either |
| 17:59.11 | Kirkburn | There were some comments about it on the Ace forum thread |
| 17:59.49 | Kirkburn | This may help http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3515.msg70809#msg70809 |
| 18:00.18 | Kirkburn | It's more a bug with WoW itself, but one that can be exacerbated by ClearFont :/ |
| 18:00.27 | Garthnait | amro? |
| 18:01.13 | ravagernl | :o thanks kirk, have to try that out soon, I don't use the blizz UI scaling also |
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| 18:01.23 | Kirkburn | ravagernl, what's your resolution? |
| 18:01.37 | ravagernl | I run a really weird one, 1680x1050 |
| 18:01.43 | Kirkburn | Heh, I knew it |
| 18:01.58 | Kirkburn | Yeah, it basically effects everyone at that res with the Blizz UI scale off |
| 18:03.21 | ravagernl | Imho the blizzard scale is perfect for me, when I make it smaller I can't read the text and when I make it bigger I have no room for addons :P |
| 18:03.35 | ravagernl | And offcourse I have tomake my entire UI then |
| 18:10.59 | Garthnait | can i define in this "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg ..dmg ..spell )" in wich color ..dmg and ..spell apear? |
| 18:12.12 | zenzelezz | you already seem familiar with color codes... I think you just add them like you've done before |
| 18:12.34 | zenzelezz | msg.."<color code thing>"..dmg.."<color code thing>"..spell |
| 18:13.11 | zenzelezz | but I'm not certain, since I've never used the color tags myself |
| 18:13.36 | Xolan[EU] | think he's asking the colors |
| 18:13.41 | Xolan[EU] | not the code :) |
| 18:14.03 | zenzelezz | he's been using the |cAARRGGBB stuff before, so I think he's aware of them |
| 18:14.04 | Garthnait | nono, not the colors |
| 18:14.11 | Garthnait | ^^ |
| 18:14.49 | Garthnait | i try ^^ |
| 18:17.04 | amro | Garthnait: what's up? |
| 18:17.12 | Garthnait | mom amro |
| 18:17.33 | Garthnait | so, in DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg.. "|c00FF0000"..dmg.. "|c00ff8000"..spell ) the message has no space between ..dm.. and ..spell |
| 18:17.41 | Garthnait | how do i get a speve between |
| 18:18.04 | zenzelezz | just put them inside the "" |
| 18:18.18 | Xolan[EU] | add a space between "|c00ff so it's " |c00ff |
| 18:18.20 | amro | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg.. " |c00FF0000"..dmg.. " |c00ff8000"..spell ) |
| 18:18.46 | Garthnait | ah okay |
| 18:18.53 | Garthnait | i'll test |
| 18:18.54 | zenzelezz | spaces outside of the ""s are just whitespace, spaces inside of them appear in the string =) |
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| 18:21.18 | Garthnait | amro, yesterday you've starte to eplain me the globalisation for all clients with ...string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)", 1), then pattern = string.gsub(pattern, "%s", ".+", 1)... |
| 18:22.15 | amro | yeah, then you use pattern in your string.match |
| 18:22.41 | Garthnait | i havent unserstnd this |
| 18:23.33 | amro | SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER is not a valid pattern. you replace %s with (.+) so you can match it, and so on |
| 18:24.04 | amro | after all three gsubs, pattern will be something like "Your (.+) crits .+ for (%d+)" |
| 18:24.06 | Garthnait | an pattern is a varible? |
| 18:24.09 | Garthnait | +a |
| 18:24.15 | amro | a pattern is a string |
| 18:24.47 | amro | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 18:26.33 | Garthnait | i now have "local GODLIKE_SPELLHIT = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)", 1), then pattern = string.gsub(pattern, "%s", ".+", 1), then pattern = string.gsub(pattern, "%d %s", "(%d+)",1)" like you have posted me |
| 18:26.55 | Thrae | PaserLib can handle parsing combat log messages for you. |
| 18:26.56 | foxlit | You sure the third parameter is number of subs? |
| 18:27.29 | amro | it cant be anything else |
| 18:27.38 | amro | but garthnait |
| 18:27.41 | foxlit | Sure it can :) |
| 18:27.49 | amro | well, it isn't :P |
| 18:28.11 | amro | you're not really doing anything with 'pattern'. replace all occurences of 'pattern' in your code with GODLIKE_SPELLHIT |
| 18:29.03 | foxlit | I sort of expected a literal switch somewhere. |
| 18:29.07 | foxlit | Apparenlty there isn't one :) |
| 18:29.23 | Garthnait | Oo i'm shmashed |
| 18:29.25 | amro | lua's patterns need an upgrade |
| 18:29.35 | Garthnait | that'S to high for me |
| 18:30.00 | amro | local GODLIKE_SPELLHIT = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)", 1), then GODLIKE_SPELLHIT = string.gsub(GODLIKE_SPELLHIT "%s", ".+", 1), then GODLIKE_SPELLHIT = string.gsub(GODLIKE_SPELLHIT "%d %s", "(%d+)",1)" |
| 18:30.02 | foxlit | Btw, the correct version is |
| 18:30.13 | amro | oh |
| 18:30.14 | foxlit | local GODLIKE_SPELLHIT = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%%s", "(.+)", 1); |
| 18:30.16 | amro | you're missing some commas |
| 18:30.27 | foxlit | Or you'll match the first space :) |
| 18:31.04 | amro | yeah, forgot to escape the % |
| 18:31.20 | amro | they could've used slashes like everyone else, but nooooooo' |
| 18:34.16 | Garthnait | there must be something wrong in the line, B:LUA marks the first then as an failure |
| 18:34.42 | amro`afk | er, that's not actual code |
| 18:34.46 | amro`afk | the then |
| 18:34.55 | amro`afk | it just means do this, then do that |
| 18:35.08 | amro`afk | those are 3 different lines of code |
| 18:35.49 | Xolan[EU] | could anyone name a good IDE for lua? |
| 18:36.22 | amro`afk | IDE? or editor? |
| 18:36.32 | Xolan[EU] | erm there's a difference? |
| 18:36.36 | amro`afk | yes |
| 18:36.42 | Xolan[EU] | editor with highlighting |
| 18:36.48 | amro`afk | SciTE |
| 18:36.56 | amro`afk | and now im truly afk |
| 18:37.03 | Xolan[EU] | right think I've seent that thanks |
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| 18:40.14 | AcidicChip | I'm extremely new to ui development... i have a layer, and I can put a texture on the overlay lever, etc, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to just make the layer a solid color, lol. |
| 18:40.47 | AcidicChip | i set a <color r= g= b=> but it doesn't seem to work |
| 18:41.06 | Xolan[EU] | seems like the lack of a discord update has spawned a whole new generation of modders including myself :) |
| 18:41.39 | AcidicChip | lol |
| 18:41.41 | AcidicChip | try xperl |
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| 18:43.56 | Xolan[EU] | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdropBorderColor perhaps? |
| 18:44.12 | Garthnait | oh, i'm going to be weird, i dont understand the thing with the pattern |
| 18:44.52 | Aalny | I may just be blind, but wowwiki doesn't seem to have an API function equivalent for the /focus command. Does it exist? |
| 18:45.29 | zenzelezz | AcidicChip: I think I'm doing what you're trying to... hold on |
| 18:46.02 | foxlit | use a texture? |
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| 18:47.31 | foxlit | Consolidated changes topic makes no mention of a SetFocus(unit) of sorts either |
| 18:48.03 | AcidicChip | Xolan[EU] would that apply to the entire background color? |
| 18:48.06 | zenzelezz | AcidicChip: http://wowi.pastey.net/4320 --- if I understood you correctly, this worked for me |
| 18:48.12 | Aalny | It wouldn't surprise me if there is no API equivalent on purpose. I'm just trying to double check. |
| 18:48.19 | Garthnait | i only wish the addon to work at all clients not only for en :mad: |
| 18:48.30 | zenzelezz | just adjust the name and colors of course :-p |
| 18:48.42 | AcidicChip | zenzelezz: Perfect, thanks. |
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| 18:54.25 | AcidicChip | what's the lua command to "console reloadui" ? |
| 18:54.43 | foxlit | ReloadUI(); |
| 18:55.03 | foxlit | Or something along the lines of ConsoleExec("reloadui"); |
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| 18:59.12 | Garthnait | question: when i do crit <1250 i put out a msg. Can i randomize this, so 1 from 3 messages will appear? |
| 19:01.25 | Roladon | yah |
| 19:01.38 | Roladon | just make a switch case and generate a random int |
| 19:01.40 | amro`afk | put your messages in a table |
| 19:01.57 | Roladon | c++ FTW? |
| 19:01.58 | Roladon | lol |
| 19:02.02 | amro`afk | with t[1] = msg1, etc |
| 19:02.11 | amro`afk | then do local i = random(3) |
| 19:02.15 | amro`afk | t[i] is your random message |
| 19:03.11 | Garthnait | k, i think i do this later. i already have the problem with the localisation |
| 19:03.14 | Tuller | do what I do, take your crit, convert it to a moment of time (Industrial Revolution, for example) and shout that :P |
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| 19:05.01 | Tuller | hrm, I think I like using showstates better, but I totally need to figure out a good system for hotkeys |
| 19:05.18 | Tuller | unless everyone really really wants to set hotkeys per state |
| 19:05.31 | Garthnait | but i do not understand the function of pattern... i know im a real noob |
| 19:05.58 | Tuller | (%d+) matches one or more digits |
| 19:06.01 | amro`afk | patterns aren't simple, but are easy once you understand them |
| 19:06.22 | Garthnait | so let me begin |
| 19:06.45 | Garthnait | first i put the local with the event local GODLIKE_SPELLHIT = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)", 1) rifht? |
| 19:08.27 | AcidicChip | how do I anchor point top-left? |
| 19:08.54 | Garthnait | so what does "string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)", 1)" do? |
| 19:08.54 | AcidicChip | nvm |
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| 19:15.26 | Garthnait | *cry* |
| 19:17.39 | Malivil | Is there an isCasting function? |
| 19:17.52 | Malivil | or something like that |
| 19:18.07 | Cide | UnitCastingInfo_ |
| 19:18.10 | Cide | ?* |
| 19:19.49 | Malivil | What does it return if it's not casting though? |
| 19:20.05 | Cide | nil? |
| 19:20.17 | Malivil | mmk |
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| 19:21.28 | Gnarfoz | anyone know of a bug on live, where set bonuses are not being displayed correctly on the character pane? like t0 2 piece setbonus (+200 armor) |
| 19:21.47 | Malivil | so [if (UnitCastingInfo("player") == nil)] will be true if the player is not casting, correct? |
| 19:22.08 | Cide | yep |
| 19:22.12 | Malivil | alright, cool |
| 19:23.09 | Gnarfoz | wouldn't: if !UnitCastingInfo("player") then do the same? |
| 19:23.38 | Malivil | ~ |
| 19:23.40 | Malivil | or not |
| 19:24.36 | Cide | it'd be if not UnitCastingInfo("player") then, but yes, it should |
| 19:25.34 | Gnarfoz | yeah, ~ of course, not ! >_> |
| 19:25.41 | Gnarfoz | ;> |
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| 19:26.22 | Malivil | Yea, that worked |
| 19:26.22 | Malivil | thanks |
| 19:26.52 | Garthnait | So, can anybody help me with my localisation an can eplain me how it works? |
| 19:29.34 | Garthnait | can i do i linebreak in the output message? |
| 19:30.23 | foxlit | Locally, yes; if you plan on sending it somewhere, no. |
| 19:30.34 | Garthnait | on default chatframe |
| 19:30.48 | kremonte | yes, |n |
| 19:30.55 | Garthnait | thanks |
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| 19:38.56 | Garthnait | hmm shit, now with the break, in the new line is no timstamp ;( |
| 19:39.38 | Garthnait | and |n is shoing in the outputing text |
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| 19:48.58 | Dhraga | Evening all |
| 19:54.32 | End | urg, sounds like hl2:ep2 got pushed back even further |
| 19:55.43 | haste | maybe it gets released the same day as duke nukem forever! |
| 19:56.00 | End | heheeh |
| 19:56.14 | Mery | then the development time would have still been 10 years shorter |
| 19:56.37 | haste | http://duke.a-13.net/ :# |
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| 19:57.25 | End | (I'm not sure I believe the rumors of another pushback though) |
| 19:57.33 | Shadowed | TFC2 looks good at least |
| 19:59.25 | Mery | that's my favourite from that list: Things that have taken less time than Duke Nukem Forever's Development: The United States' entire program to put a man on the moon, from Kennedy's challenge to the landing. |
| 19:59.26 | End | ok, now I'm seeing rumors that it's actually march of this year |
| 19:59.42 | End | so I have no idea when it comes out :P |
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| 20:04.22 | Imrcly | anyone know a mod that will do a chat who on any custom channels you are in? |
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| 20:10.42 | zenzelezz | Imrcly: I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for |
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| 20:16.57 | AcidicChip | zen: I'm playing with on-events, and in the xml i have <onevent> going to a function, but how do I catch actual events, like health change? |
| 20:17.16 | Imrcly | when i log into the game I want to know who else is in the custom chat channels /chatwho # |
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| 20:18.05 | zenzelezz | AcidicChip: you can either register to only receive specific events (usually a good idea), or simply check what even you're currently handling in the OnEvent |
| 20:18.20 | zenzelezz | you'll have to check that anyway if you register for more than one event |
| 20:20.45 | AcidicChip | i guess the question is where can i find a reference on how to register events? |
| 20:21.10 | zenzelezz | the wiki has an example I believe |
| 20:22.17 | AcidicChip | ok, i'll look again, thanx |
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| 20:35.09 | cogwheel | Anyone know when PerfectRaid will be done? |
| 20:36.02 | amro`afk | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=78&Set=64 |
| 20:36.22 | cladhaire | for anyone who didn't ask today, there will probably be a beta release today |
| 20:40.43 | ckknight | but we want it done now |
| 20:40.46 | ckknight | without any bugs |
| 20:40.52 | ckknight | and with every feature imaginable |
| 20:41.04 | ckknight | oh, and if you can, port it to Ace. (jk) |
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| 20:44.42 | Gnarfoz | why does if (Baggins) then work in Fubar_BagFu, but if (BagFu) then not work in Baggins? o_O |
| 20:44.43 | Garth|busy | is there possibility that my outputmessage changes the color of the timestamp to? |
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| 20:49.39 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> Happy New Year! | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 |
| 20:49.57 | TC_Sleeping | now people wont know what to do in a flood |
| 20:50.19 | Cairenn|afk | oh noes! |
| 20:50.37 | TC_Sleeping | my heart weeps for them |
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| 20:52.32 | Garth|busy | So is now there anybody who can help me with my addon, so it works with all clients? |
| 20:52.50 | MentalPower|Code | Java question: I'm trying to find a function/object/class/whathaveyou that converts from Month-Day-Time to millisecs since epoch |
| 20:53.57 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> Happy New Year! | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 | Can you yell "MOVIE!" in a crowded firestation? |
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| 20:55.18 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel, ping |
| 20:55.33 | cogwheel | pong |
| 20:55.42 | cogwheel | seems to be working now :) |
| 20:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I had to fix the file permissions |
| 20:55.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I always forget to do that :P |
| 20:57.06 | Garth|busy | so, another question: |
| 20:57.54 | Garth|busy | Can anybody tell me how i insert in my onload message a variable for the version thats defind in the .toc? |
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| 20:58.19 | Garth|busy | so i 've only to change the version in the .toc |
| 20:58.54 | amro`afk | warla: ping |
| 20:58.59 | Cide | GetAddOnMetadata("NameOfAddon", "version") |
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| 21:02.04 | Garth|busy | thanks cide |
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| 21:09.47 | warla | howdy |
| 21:09.59 | warla | anyone online that has a horde char on BC beta? |
| 21:19.14 | AcidicChip | I have a texture set to color, how do i change that color value? |
| 21:19.38 | foxlit | SetTexture |
| 21:20.18 | foxlit | i.e. textureObject:SetTexture(red, green, blue, alpha) |
| 21:20.30 | AcidicChip | thankie |
| 21:23.26 | amro | warla: pm |
| 21:23.33 | AcidicChip | is there an eval function? |
| 21:23.54 | AcidicChip | or a way to texture<varname>:SetTexture ? |
| 21:24.12 | amro | getglobal("texture"..varname):SetTexure |
| 21:24.30 | amro | and yes, there's an eval function (dostring?) |
| 21:27.28 | Tuller | loadstring? |
| 21:28.41 | amro | i thought loadstring doesn't exec? |
| 21:29.32 | foxlit | It's RunScript |
| 21:29.47 | foxlit | And DoString does not exist. |
| 21:30.17 | amro | it does in the C API :P |
| 21:30.27 | amro | my editor was highlighting it though |
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| 21:46.34 | Bynis | hey guys, anyone here use Auctioneer on Earthenring? |
| 21:50.47 | Shane__ | is it possible to make a button blink on an event? |
| 21:50.57 | foxlit | Sure |
| 21:51.34 | Shane__ | is there a special "makeblink" call? |
| 21:54.35 | Gary | is it possible to build a .lua script which will cast a buff? Or press a button which has the buff mapped to it. (ie I have Lightning Shield mapped to the - key) I have the script detecting when the buff expires ; but I can't figure out a way to cast Lightning Sheild since castspellbyname is no longer available. |
| 21:54.52 | foxlit | Gary: yes. |
| 21:55.07 | krka | ooh... srosh has a PSB song quit message |
| 21:55.08 | Nom- | It will only work out of combat |
| 21:55.14 | Nom- | But yes, it should be possible |
| 21:55.35 | foxlit | I think you might be able to figure out a way to do that in combat too. |
| 21:55.45 | foxlit | Shane__: not as such. There are probably specific animation calls for the default UI, but nothing universal. |
| 21:55.48 | Nom- | probably not |
| 21:55.58 | Nom- | lua can't do a lot in combat any more |
| 21:56.01 | Nom- | not compared to pre 2.0 |
| 21:56.04 | Gary | Tnx foxlit ; is that done using the ActionButtonDown function? or is there another way? |
| 21:56.09 | foxlit | I'm aware of it, I code this stuff. |
| 21:56.46 | Shane__ | k, making a button blink say only when a target is blow 30% health may be difficult then or cpu intensive at least |
| 21:57.38 | foxlit | Nope, you can't use actionbuttondown. Look into SecureActionButton |
| 21:57.55 | Gary | k thanks. |
| 22:02.51 | foxlit | Hm, I was thinking of generating a /castsequence macro, but you can't make them work backwards, unfortunately. |
| 22:04.01 | Nom- | I wonder if my favourite computer store has tbc pre-order :/ |
| 22:04.13 | Nom- | wtb be pally :~( |
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| 22:04.42 | Thrae | Gary: Look at SmartBuff. Unfortunately, the buff button doesn't work in Combat, but it can notify you in combat. |
| 22:05.09 | Thrae | Gary: Actually, scratch that, the buff button DOES work in combat, but only on yourself. |
| 22:05.20 | Thrae | Since you can't change the target of a button anymore. |
| 22:05.26 | foxlit | It'll recast unconditionally, too. |
| 22:05.43 | Thrae | Yeah. |
| 22:05.48 | foxlit | They could've done what I do -- set target to "none" on REGEN_DISABLE, and force you to target it yourself. |
| 22:07.00 | Nom- | Anyone heard how PerfectRaid is going? |
| 22:07.20 | Nom- | That's the only thing I need to complete my WoW experience...I can manage to buff myself as long as I can easily see who needs one :/ |
| 22:07.59 | foxlit | shameless plug: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/3601/rabuffs/ |
| 22:08.48 | Nom- | seen it, don't like it :) |
| 22:11.19 | Nom- | It's probably a good idea in concept, but I prefer cladhaire's solution :) |
| 22:11.32 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 22:12.27 | foxlit | "idea in concept"? :) |
| 22:12.54 | Nom- | Yeah, like the phrase "It sounded like a good idea at the time" :D |
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| 22:17.07 | sylvanaar | i normally wouldnt ask, but im about to pass out at my desk and this has been on my mind. is there a way to do a targetd NS+Heal using clique |
| 22:17.15 | cladhaire | yes |
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| 22:27.07 | Garth|busy | can anybody link me an tut how to switch functions on or of witch /command? |
| 22:28.49 | amro | Garth|busy: switch functions on? |
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| 22:29.27 | Garth|busy | now my addon works (only in enUK) an now i will make a function that diaable the sounds |
| 22:29.42 | TonyD | heh, someone updated trinity with a keylogger on worldofwar |
| 22:39.02 | Shane__ | In lua is "option.index = v.value" the same as "optionindex = vvalue" ? or does the "." 's have special meaning? |
| 22:40.24 | Shane__ | TonyD TrinityBars? |
| 22:40.47 | amro | the '.' indexes the table |
| 22:41.00 | amro | option.index is the same as option['index'] |
| 22:41.51 | Shane__ | amro aww thanks |
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| 22:44.50 | Arsonide | Hey it says the release version of Auctioneer doesn't work on the current version of WoW, does the beta version work with the current version of WoW? Auctioneer looked really cool, I'm an herbalist so I have to check the market a lot. |
| 22:45.18 | Mery | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_a_Slash_Command |
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| 22:48.16 | Mery | Arsonide: Well I havn't tried it, but yeah the beta should be the version for the current WoW in a test phase, so there might be some bugs in case you have no auctioneer database to lose (like didn't use it before) just try it, in case you do just back it up (its in the wtf folder) |
| 22:50.11 | groll | loool i'm dying!!! http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=103680851&sid=1 |
| 22:50.18 | groll | loool my stumach hurts |
| 22:51.04 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 22:51.29 | ckknight | groll: yea, that's a nice one. |
| 22:52.00 | Tain | Those people are all bad, bad people. |
| 22:52.58 | ckknight | oh yes |
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| 23:06.18 | Corrodias | well, about perfectraid, let's put it this way: any raiding done on Live is not of great significance with TBC right around the corner, except to the five people who won't be buying it. any loot from raiding on Beta will just disappear at that time, as well. |
| 23:06.32 | Corrodias | so to speak |
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| 23:12.14 | foxlit | Bah, another Cenarion grind? :/ |
| 23:12.30 | Corrodias | we would have nothing to do without grinds |
| 23:13.07 | foxlit | Farming for a subfaction of what you're already Exalted with is evil, though |
| 23:13.52 | cladhaire | Corrodias: Was it you i was talking about modularity re: perfectraid with? |
| 23:14.34 | Corrodias | modularity? i don't think so. |
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| 23:18.42 | Xolan[EU] | maybe being exalted gives you rep faster with the subfaction or something |
| 23:18.45 | Xolan[EU] | gotta be some perks :P |
| 23:19.19 | kremonte | anyone have any ideas for a mod to code~? |
| 23:19.57 | Xolan[EU] | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7769 is a good idea |
| 23:20.10 | kremonte | woohoo |
| 23:20.12 | kremonte | an idea that i can use too |
| 23:20.12 | kremonte | :D |
| 23:20.17 | Xolan[EU] | :) |
| 23:21.15 | kremonte | and that was fast too, haha thanks |
| 23:22.00 | Xolan[EU] | was gonna have a go at it myself, but I can't get it done I think lol |
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| 23:23.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | Weaponbuttons does something similar to that, xolan :o |
| 23:23.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | except the mouseover thing |
| 23:24.08 | kremonte | am i wasting my time? :P{ |
| 23:24.13 | kremonte | s/:P/:/ |
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| 23:25.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like the poisonbox idea better though, be really nice if it showed all temp weapon buffs in a sub-menu |
| 23:26.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | like stones, shaman buffs, etc |
| 23:26.40 | kremonte | Mr_Rabies2; hm |
| 23:26.48 | TonyD | hah, so much for no-downtime maintenance |
| 23:26.50 | kremonte | do any classes besides shaman have weapon buffs? |
| 23:27.01 | Corrodias | what idea is this... |
| 23:27.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | shamans and rogues are it really |
| 23:27.09 | kremonte | well, spells |
| 23:27.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than stones |
| 23:27.18 | kremonte | because those are a different thing than poisons and stones |
| 23:27.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 23:27.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 23:27.41 | Corrodias | poisonbox's proposed main functionality already exists in poisonpouch |
| 23:27.55 | Corrodias | except that instead of a trinketmenu box it is a minimap button |
| 23:28.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder if 2.0.3 has it so that shaman weapon buffs work like poisons |
| 23:28.33 | Corrodias | i don't think the "additional features" are a part of it, though. |
| 23:30.46 | End | I'm pretty sure shaman weapon buffs are -exactly- the same as poisons |
| 23:30.52 | Corrodias | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5245-PoisonPouch.html |
| 23:31.16 | TonyD | i can't get LFG for ubrs |
| 23:31.34 | kremonte | TonyD: Blackrock Spire ;/ |
| 23:31.43 | kremonte | it doesnt differentiate between UBRS and LBRS |
| 23:32.05 | Corrodias | you're shitting me |
| 23:32.08 | End | the lfg tool does |
| 23:32.14 | End | it has ubrs under raid |
| 23:32.16 | End | and lbrs under dungeon |
| 23:32.23 | kremonte | ohhh |
| 23:32.38 | TonyD | ahhh |
| 23:33.23 | Corrodias | oooooooooo |
| 23:33.41 | TonyD | how does lfg work if you don't autojoin? |
| 23:33.52 | Corrodias | you get an invitation |
| 23:34.10 | End | it shows in the lfm I think...it doesn't seem as useful for ubrs simply because it doesn't autoadd for raids |
| 23:34.14 | TonyD | ahh, but the "you are in a queue" thing doesn't popup |
| 23:34.34 | kremonte | i don't like the LFG tool at all, most people on my server just do it the old fashioned way |
| 23:34.47 | Corrodias | i have only spent about two minutes looking at it on PTR during which time i activated it and then cancelled it. a little while later, i received a group invitation from somebody who was nowhere near me. |
| 23:34.55 | End | I have some complaints, but I have gotten some groups together using it |
| 23:34.57 | Corrodias | i can only assume it was because of the lfg tool |
| 23:35.23 | End | they probably saw you in the lfm tab |
| 23:35.30 | TonyD | i've gotten a few brd groups from it, but usually way too low for emp run |
| 23:35.59 | Corrodias | i might not necessarily be LOOKING for a group for UBRS, but if somebody needs another healer i might come along just because i'm nice. |
| 23:36.11 | Corrodias | thus i won't sign up with the LFG tool even though i'm available |
| 23:36.14 | TonyD | yeah |
| 23:36.25 | TonyD | that's why the lfg tool is useless, but blizzard has spoken |
| 23:36.36 | TonyD | and they have said what they want is more important than what we want |
| 23:36.59 | Corrodias | i believe the LookingForGroup still has life as a channel on my realm, but i don't think many people use it, yet |
| 23:37.26 | End | a few people use the channel still on my realm |
| 23:37.29 | Corrodias | i say this in uncertain terms because i haven't played more than ten minutes since 2.0 |
| 23:37.30 | TonyD | i've tried to bring LookingForGroup back, but it only had life for a month or so, now it's entirely dead |
| 23:38.02 | Corrodias | so we go back to sitting around in Orgrimmar or Strormwind/IF if we want to form up parties, eh? |
| 23:38.07 | amro | yeah |
| 23:38.13 | amro | good ol' days |
| 23:39.38 | TonyD | like i said, blizz just doesn't care anymore |
| 23:40.22 | TonyD | they got over 7 million customers, thy're no longer afraid of anything except lawsuits |
| 23:40.57 | Corrodias | i don't know... they've seemed unusually benevolent to me, lately |
| 23:41.14 | Corrodias | except for ignoring people, for the most part. |
| 23:41.23 | TonyD | sure, as long as they appear so, and it doesn't go against what they want |
| 23:41.26 | qw` | the LFG channel is gone? |
| 23:41.36 | End | it's not an official channel anymore |
| 23:41.50 | qw` | Hm that's going to suck |
| 23:41.55 | TonyD | it kinda does |
| 23:41.58 | Corrodias | it does. |
| 23:42.11 | TonyD | we need a default world chat/lfg channel |
| 23:42.12 | qw` | I like being able to see LFG's when I was out and about |
| 23:42.19 | Corrodias | you can't find groups -and- you can't talk to people wherever you are |
| 23:42.25 | qw` | s/like/liked |
| 23:42.36 | Corrodias | unless you convince people to join a custom channel, which is subject of course to an asshole getting the moderator position |
| 23:43.26 | foxlit | The point they're trying to go through is making the LFG interface standard. |
| 23:43.36 | foxlit | Eventually, people will get the message and it'll work. |
| 23:43.46 | Corrodias | what message? it can't work, yet. |
| 23:43.46 | TonyD | the lfg is substandard |
| 23:43.53 | Corrodias | it doesn't have enough functionality |
| 23:43.56 | foxlit | Oh, it works. |
| 23:44.14 | TonyD | it works, if you like the system being in control of your group |
| 23:44.21 | Mery | well I think they need to get rid of auto-join |
| 23:44.29 | TonyD | if you want to not be able to demand higher lvls or specific classes |
| 23:44.30 | foxlit | Just go through LookingForMore? |
| 23:44.37 | Corrodias | okay, foxlit, riddle me this: how do you get me to join your UBRS group as a healer when i'm in Feralas, you're not, and i'm not using the LFG interface because i don't actually have a desire to go to UBRS? |
| 23:44.55 | Mery | whisper |
| 23:44.56 | foxlit | I don't. |
| 23:44.59 | Corrodias | if you had the LFG channel you could be begging people to go and i'd say "okay" |
| 23:45.05 | foxlit | If you don't want to go to UBRS, I don't want you. |
| 23:45.07 | Mery | people always whisper every mage/priest warrior online |
| 23:45.15 | Corrodias | then you're not going to UBRS, on my realm |
| 23:45.16 | Mery | on my server |
| 23:45.26 | TonyD | i loved worldwide lfg, i could just run a filter if I wanted to look for something specific |
| 23:45.30 | Corrodias | you can never get together enough people who actually -want- to go to UBRS. |
| 23:45.41 | foxlit | That's simply because the adoption rate for the new LFG is crap. |
| 23:45.51 | TonyD | because lfg really is shitty |
| 23:45.55 | foxlit | And because, for most people, UBRS is irrelevant. |
| 23:46.00 | Corrodias | actually, like i said, i haven't played more than ten minutes since 2.0. i'm talking about BEFORE the patch. |
| 23:46.04 | TonyD | they did to meeting stones what they did to LFG last time |
| 23:46.23 | TonyD | meeting stones NEVER worked tho |
| 23:46.49 | TonyD | and i've tried to give it a chance |
| 23:46.56 | TonyD | but i'm miserable not being able to find groups |
| 23:47.00 | Corrodias | you say you don't want me to go if i don't really want to go, but i'm a competent healer who will stick through the longest, least profitable runs and your partymates might want me around. |
| 23:47.21 | TonyD | goes against my entire reason for playing, and I don't want to have to join a huge guild to go to ubrs |
| 23:48.58 | foxlit | That makes for a rather odd situation, Corr. |
| 23:49.24 | Mery | well you *could* have an addon check and inform you in chat about new groups then it's just like LFG - only problem is that the function to check requires user interaction because it is expensive |
| 23:49.34 | Corrodias | this is interesting. wowi's search results page does not actually mention what the search term was |
| 23:49.37 | Corrodias | i'm trying to remember what i wanted |
| 23:50.11 | foxlit | If you wanted to find a group for an alt, you could play around with comments. |
| 23:50.23 | foxlit | Although, yes, level-restricting things is a pain |
| 23:50.27 | Corrodias | if Blizzard had only taken the time to inform people about the CallToArms addon, there would not have been a problem. |
| 23:50.40 | Corrodias | i did my best but only converted a few souls |
| 23:51.12 | foxlit | In short, it'll be fine in TBC. |
| 23:51.29 | Corrodias | how's that? they've made another change? |
| 23:52.00 | foxlit | Increased player fragmentation means camping IF is a bad option, new content means there is a lot more people interested. |
| 23:52.12 | foxlit | It'll work. |
| 23:52.21 | Corrodias | for a while |
| 23:52.29 | amro | itll probably work for outland as people will be in the same level range |
| 23:52.49 | foxlit | And once people get used to it, it'll work decently for most things |
| 23:53.03 | amro | but the thing is, sometimes you're just grinding, you don't go LFG but if you see someone LFM you might go |
| 23:53.09 | Corrodias | you keep saying that, but you haven't addressed the situation i mentioned |
| 23:53.22 | amro | i usually /who classes in the level range i want for instances |
| 23:53.25 | foxlit | You're a priest who doesn't really want to go but who I have to whine at to force you to go? |
| 23:53.26 | amro | and whisper them |
| 23:53.29 | foxlit | Spare me. |
| 23:53.41 | Corrodias | i'm reasonably willing to go on various instance runs, but why should i go looking for groups if i have other things i can be doing? |
| 23:54.11 | amro | sometimes it just doesn't occur to me i have enough free time for an instance, an lfm is a reminder |
| 23:54.23 | foxlit | If you're even partially interested, you'd flag yourself as being up for those dungeons, upon which point people could whisper you |
| 23:54.33 | foxlit | If you're not, well, tough, go solo a boar. |
| 23:55.09 | amro | hey, im not saying the lfg system sucks because of that |
| 23:55.19 | amro | no need for the attitude |
| 23:55.29 | End | a limit of 3 is too small |
| 23:55.35 | Corrodias | i'm not going to flag myself for ten instances if i'd technically rather be soloing |
| 23:56.10 | Corrodias | and i guess maybe it is tough, but not for me, because i'm as happy not going. it's tough for people who want a group. |
| 23:56.14 | foxlit | amro: not really directed at you :) |
| 23:57.34 | Corrodias | i understand the conversation and i know we're just firing at each other, neither going to convince the other. it's like religion. |
| 23:57.54 | Corrodias | i should get back to work |
| 23:58.03 | End | (anyways, you couldn't flag yourself for 10 instances if you wanted too!) |
| 23:58.40 | Corrodias | what's that? |
| 23:58.41 | foxlit | True, they should probably change that part. |
| 23:58.51 | foxlit | There's a physical limit on the number of things you can LFG for. |
| 23:59.24 | End | Corrodias: you get to select 3 things you are "lfging" for |
