irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20061231

`00:00.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Searching for "bank" is pretty useless`
`00:00.12`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`MyAddon_SliderChanged() returns "ChatBoxWidth" and "NewSize"`
`00:00.12`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`as the property (chatboxwidth) and new value for that property`
`00:00.13`	`Tuller`	`or sanity`
`00:00.39`	`Xolan[EU]`	`I love arkinventory though, has lots of neat sorting features as well`
`00:00.42`	`cogwheel`	`I like TBag (it's an enginventory derivative)`
`00:00.45`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`So, you then MySavedVariable.ChatBoxWidth = NewSize`
`00:00.53`	`Xolan[EU]`	`same with ask cog :)`
`00:00.57`	`Xolan[EU]`	`*ark`
`00:01.07`	`Tuller`	`cogwheel: you're kidding that an addon is called tbag, right? :P`
`00:01.14`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Then, ChatBox:SetWidth(MySavedVariable.ChatBoxWidth)`
`00:01.17`	`cogwheel`	`jiminey christmas... how many of those are there? XD`
`00:01.27`	`cogwheel`	`Tuller: nope :)`
`00:01.44`	`Tuller`	`that was yet another name I was going to call bagnon, bah :P`
`00:01.51`	`cogwheel`	`lol`
`00:02.23`	`cogwheel`	`it's the kind of thing i would do... Like BuyDropper is kind of a pun on Eye Dropper... /shrug`
`00:02.47`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`or FuBar`
`00:02.48`	`Bouvi`	`Now all I have left is to figure out why the settings for the Fubar addon are not holding when you zone, reload ui, etc.`
`00:03.01`	`cogwheel`	`FuBar's a great name imo`
`00:03.10`	`Xolan[EU]`	`hehe`
`00:03.13`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yup :)`
`00:03.24`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Bouvi, most you need a "PlayerEnteringWorld" event call`
`00:03.32`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`s/most/most likely/`
`00:04.00`	`Tuller`	`bagnon is actually a play on a friend's character's name, after I decided to not call it baglor`
`00:04.01`	`Bouvi`	`ok will look that up. Healing wife atm. She wants to live. Go figure.`
`00:04.01`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`bagnon is funny actully it reminds me a hebrew word haha`
`00:04.13`	`Xolan[EU]`	`what is that thingy? :P the typo-fixer`
`00:04.15`	`Tuller`	`that is, http://www.air0day.com/baglor/`
`00:04.18`	`Bouvi`	`You did Bagnon. OMG you are my hero!!!`
`00:04.37`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`He also did Bongos`
`00:04.48`	`Bouvi`	`Never used Bongos. But OMG you are my hero lol`
`00:04.55`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha :P`
`00:05.00`	`Tuller`	`~Tuller`
`00:05.05`	`purl`	`hmm... tuller is the author of bongos and vbagnon.`
`00:05.05`	`Xolan[EU]`	`clad's my hero as a healer :P`
`00:05.05`	`Bouvi`	`Your's is the only Bag addon my wife would use.`
`00:05.14`	`Corrodias`	`i've not used bongos or bagnon because i am lame`
`00:05.50`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`It's amazing how 2.0 really changed the addon landscape`
`00:06.01`	`Tuller`	`Bouvi: I'm assuming your wife hates me for changing the UI`
`00:06.03`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`previously, it was all about Discord, Flexbar`
`00:06.03`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`true :)`
`00:06.18`	`cogwheel`	`heh... i use bongos to hide my action bars and move my bag/menu buttons but i use my own addon for my bars themselves :)`
`00:06.31`	`Bouvi`	`Not at all. I set it up for her.`
`00:06.35`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Though I'm not an Ace2 user I think they changed alot too :)`
`00:06.41`	`Corrodias`	`i really need to get an action bar addon one of these days`
`00:06.45`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I forget why I didn't go with Bongos... they were lacking something I know`
`00:07.01`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I know why I didn't go with Trinity, even though it had some of the best features`
`00:07.06`	`foxlit`	`bongo screenshots were odd.`
`00:07.16`	`Xolan[EU]`	`the beauty of discord that anyone can make their own "mod" easily :) No need for any xml/lua knowledge (maybe some for dart though).`
`00:07.34`	`Bouvi`	`Trinity is starting to bother me. I might have to go shopping for a new bar addon`
`00:07.47`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Trinity has three fatal flaws`
`00:07.47`	`Tuller`	`bongos screenshots were based off of this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3876`
`00:07.47`	`cogwheel`	`XD`
`00:07.57`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`One, it can't hide bars for shit`
`00:08.22`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Bartender is great too :)`
`00:08.24`	`Tuller`	`aka, the actionbar mod I used until they stopped updating it for a while`
`00:08.41`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Two, you can't save profiles, so you have to set up every new character from scratch`
`00:08.42`	`Xolan[EU]`	`bartender is great yeah`
`00:09.10`	`Xolan[EU]`	`never tried bongos though. Will give it a try tomorrow :)`
`00:09.12`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`and Three, it doesn't save it's keybindings on hidden bars`
`00:09.38`	`Corrodias`	`so bartender and bongos are the two bar addons i'm supposed to look into trying out?`
`00:09.49`	`Tuller`	`bartender probably does more than bongos right nowish`
`00:09.57`	`Bouvi`	`What is the difference between the two?`
`00:10.07`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Bartender is Aced`
`00:10.14`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`and it's great to setup :)`
`00:10.20`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`easy*`
`00:10.27`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`which is a plus and a minus`
`00:10.49`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yeah I guess so :)`
`00:10.51`	`Corrodias`	`i use so many addons with the same embedded libraries that it's about time i externalize them`
`00:11.01`	`Corrodias`	`my load times piss me off`
`00:11.08`	`Xolan[EU]`	`they don't load several times tho?`
`00:11.16`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`They do`
`00:11.18`	`Tuller`	`cogwheel: I'm assuming you know you could just delete the actionbar portion, right? :)`
`00:11.23`	`Tuller`	`of bongos that is`
`00:11.40`	`Corrodias`	`i read that longer load times can be caused by embedded libraries. i can't be sure if it's true.`
`00:11.41`	`cogwheel`	`I tried that, but then it doesn't let me break up the default one`
`00:11.53`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Many mods these days are falling into the "universal addon" trap`
`00:11.54`	`Tuller`	`I mean the actionbar folder within the actionbar mod`
`00:12.04`	`cogwheel`	`O.o`
`00:12.10`	`Corrodias`	`that is, if you have 10 addons all using Dewdrop-2.0, you can pull it out into your main addons folder and delete all the embedded versions to speed up loading, or so i read`
`00:12.25`	`Tuller`	`cogwheel: yes, its named weird :P`
`00:12.28`	`Xolan[EU]`	`yep that would be logical :P`
`00:12.29`	`cogwheel`	`i'll try that next time i log in :)`
`00:12.31`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Corrodias, supposedly the addons will prevent that from happening`
`00:12.33`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I don't like using any libs, I like to write everything from scratch, but it comes with a cost, time :\|`
`00:12.53`	`Corrodias`	`ace2 i have separately, and i need to go on a deleting rampage through my addons' library folders`
`00:13.45`	`Xolan[EU]`	`heh`
`00:13.45`	`foxlit`	`VoidRaider\|VR: write own libs :P`
`00:13.45`	`cogwheel`	`Tuller: if i had RTFM'ed would i have known to do that? :P`
`00:13.45`	`Corrodias`	`it can also come at a cost of functionality if you get bored or annoyed when writing something, or don't know how to do something`
`00:13.45`	`Tuller`	`cogwheel: no :P`
`00:13.46`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I actually wrote a whole lib that handle the GUI part :)`
`00:13.55`	`Xolan[EU]`	`of what?`
`00:13.56`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Corrodias, better to spend the extra time and learn it yourself though`
`00:14.00`	`Corrodias`	`if you enjoy writing addons...`
`00:14.12`	`Corrodias`	`otherwise i'd favor the quickest way to get the job done`
`00:14.17`	`Xolan[EU]`	`if you don't enjoy it then don't do it :P`
`00:14.19`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`That's a subjective statement, of course`
`00:14.24`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Like managing the sliders, color pickers, check boxes and such any GUI element :)`
`00:14.28`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`and merely reflects my own opinion`
`00:14.33`	`Xolan[EU]`	`ah right`
`00:15.01`	`Corrodias`	`well, i may want something that isn't available and have to write it myself (hypothetically), even if i don't enjoy doing so`
`00:15.05`	`foxlit`	`Gah.`
`00:15.33`	`foxlit`	`Mistake 324 of RABuffs development: forgetting to keep track of your own query flags`
`00:15.57`	`foxlit`	`Turns out I marked something as a self-buff, and set the required class to "Item". :/`
`00:15.58`	`Tuller`	`I've just decided most of my stuff does not share a huge amount of code between it all`
`00:16.02`	`Bouvi`	`I may look into Bongos tomorrow. Would you recommend that or Bartender?`
`00:16.07`	`Tuller`	`I could force it to`
`00:16.24`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Bouvi, depends on what you like`
`00:16.30`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`and what you want in a bar mod`
`00:16.48`	`Xolan[EU]`	`@bouvi, I don't think you'd be disappointed with bartender (especially not if you have a lot of ace-based mods). Never tried bongos though so can't comment on that.`
`00:17.10`	`Bouvi`	`I want Discord Action Bars lol`
`00:17.15`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`nah`
`00:17.15`	`Xolan[EU]`	`same >.<`
`00:17.28`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Discord was so bloated`
`00:17.49`	`Corrodias`	`i don't know -what- i want in an action bar mod`
`00:18.09`	`Tuller`	`Corrodias: they are about equivalent right now, with differing GUIs`
`00:18.18`	`cogwheel`	`s/cougs/coughs/`
`00:18.21`	`Tuller`	`cogwheel: I thought your mod is for warriors? :P`
`00:18.21`	`Bouvi`	`I want to be able to have drop down menus like I could make in DAB`
`00:18.33`	`Corrodias`	`i think i like the defaults, actually. the reason i envy other people their custom layouts is that they only have 3 bars visible, most of the time, which takes much less space than my layout`
`00:18.36`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`The one thing that I don't like on these bars mod, that they removing the default Blizzard elements, if there was an option available to keep it, it was great :)`
`00:18.38`	`Corrodias`	`but i can't deal with having only 3 bars up at a time`
`00:19.00`	`cogwheel`	`tuller: not since 12/4 :)`
`00:19.23`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Corrodias, I have 4 total myself`
`00:19.24`	`Tuller`	`looks like its getting closer to the old flexbar`
`00:19.31`	`cogwheel`	`VoidRaider\|VR: mine doesn't remove it...`
`00:19.33`	`Corrodias`	`you're insane`
`00:19.44`	`cogwheel`	`Tuller: i was thinking that too... :)`
`00:19.53`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`if you only had an interface available I would use yours :P`
`00:19.58`	`Corrodias`	`or perhaps you open your inventory to activate some less important items :)`
`00:20.02`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:20.15`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`People are lazy cog :)`
`00:20.17`	`Corrodias`	`my main is druid, although i've also gotten a hunter to 35`
`00:20.19`	`cogwheel`	`and it's using 2.0 paradigms from the start, so it should last a while feature-wise`
`00:20.29`	`Bouvi`	`Tuller if I grab Bongos and try it I can bug you with questions right :)`
`00:20.42`	`Tuller`	`Bouvi: potentially :P`
`00:20.43`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Xolan[EU] (n=Xolan[EU@216-22-86.521110.adsl.tele2.no)`
`00:20.59`	`cogwheel`	`VoidRaider\|VR: :)`
`00:21.01`	`Bouvi`	`And feature requests... and....`
`00:21.18`	`Tuller`	`I've given up on virtual buttons now`
`00:21.32`	`nevcairiel`	`Tuller: some druid in my guild complained today that stances werent working, any know bug? :)`
`00:21.35`	`Bouvi`	`What are virtual buttons?`
`00:21.36`	`Tuller`	`but might go back to them if I can't do a keybinding system`
`00:21.39`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I know you made your bar, well at least when you started with it to be used as an example, but can't you add an interface ? :P`
`00:21.47`	`Tuller`	`nevcairiel: they forgot to learn aquatic form :P`
`00:21.53`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`00:21.55`	`nevcairiel`	`ive had those`
`00:22.00`	`cogwheel`	`CogsBar's two fatal flaws are the binding system and the fact that you have to reload when you remove bars which makes first figuring out how you want your layout pretty annoying`
`00:22.06`	`nevcairiel`	`i added an option to toggle that now :D`
`00:22.10`	`cogwheel`	`The lack of a GUI is only a flesh wound :P`
`00:22.13`	`nevcairiel`	`stupid lazy druids`
`00:22.18`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha :D`
`00:23.05`	`cogwheel`	`and I plan to tackle them in that order`
`00:23.10`	`Tuller`	`nevcairiel: I'm thinking the easier way is to do for i = 1, GetNumShapeShiftForms() do _, name = GetShapeshiftInfo(i) and setup druid stances that way`
`00:23.29`	`Tuller`	`whatever the real code is`
`00:23.30`	`cogwheel`	`but right now....`
`00:23.37`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`btw, anyone know where FuBar is changing the chatframe anchors ? :)`
`00:24.10`	`nevcairiel`	`Tuller: i tried doing that once .. but with all the locale and stuff, i gave up.`
`00:24.22`	`Tuller`	`nevcairiel: that should be locale independent`
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`00:25.25`	`Tuller`	`the only exceptions should be priests`
`00:25.46`	`Thursdae`	`Hey Guys... Anyone know of an addon that will automatically keep enchanting something? Im leveling enchanting and Hate to sit there enchanting my chest 47 tiems`
`00:26.08`	`nevcairiel`	`i think the name is localised`
`00:26.59`	`nevcairiel`	`if its not, that would explain why people complained that it wasnt working :P`
`00:27.51`	`Corrodias`	`i don't think it's possible in 2.0, Thursdae`
`00:28.10`	`Thursdae`	`stupid 2.0 -.-`
`00:28.25`	`Corrodias`	`i know you used to be able to queue up crafting, but i don't know about enchanting`
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`00:35.20`	`foxlit`	`Could I get some advise with http://wowi.pastey.net/4220 ?`
`00:35.46`	`foxlit`	`I'm rewriting the first function there, and was wondering what the best way of generating RAB_ADFDD_Cats would be.`
`00:37.39`	`Bouvi`	`Neuro_Medivh How does PlayerEnteringWorld work?`
`00:37.58`	`Saroz`	`Anyone know if you can change groupFilter during combat?`
`00:38.52`	`cogwheel`	`Bouvi: http://wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process`
`00:39.11`	`Bouvi`	`Thanks did a search on there but did not find it.`
`00:40.17`	`Bouvi`	`How would this fix the problem where my settings are not saved. For example I turn off Autoloot and when I log or zone it is back on. I tell it to not display the icon but again when I log or zone it comes back.`
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`00:44.03`	`cogwheel`	`PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is an event that fires when you zone. Something might be showing the icon during that event`
`00:44.48`	`Bouvi`	`I don't have that event in my lua but it could be in the ACE stuff. Will look.`
`00:45.05`	`foxlit`	`When you zone across continents, cog?`
`00:45.22`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yup even so`
`00:45.23`	`cogwheel`	`yep`
`00:45.30`	`Corrodias`	`i need to write up a resume... but first i need to have some idea of what kind of career i'm looking for`
`00:45.45`	`foxlit`	`Supreme Ruler of the World?`
`00:45.54`	`Corrodias`	`i like "unproductive leech"`
`00:46.04`	`Corrodias`	`but i think for employment i need to think up something else`
`00:46.14`	`Tuller`	`stealth assassin`
`00:46.30`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`World of Warcraft`
`00:46.33`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`it's easy :)`
`00:47.12`	`Corrodias`	`i have a degree in computer science, mostly good for software development. i don't -enjoy- software development, although i can push through it.`
`00:47.42`	`Corrodias`	`system/network administration is probably more up my alley but i don't have enough experience for it, yet`
`00:48.10`	`cogwheel`	`i got a job as a temp office worker at a winery..... now i'm the it department XD`
`00:48.22`	`Tuller`	`hah`
`00:48.40`	`cogwheel`	`'spose i should've capitalized that "IT"`
`00:48.44`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I like software development much more then web, though I don't hate it :)`
`00:49.01`	`Corrodias`	`ooh, i have web design`
`00:49.04`	`Corrodias`	`*hate`
`00:50.06`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Dunno my friends says that well, they like it because the results comes fast :P`
`00:50.24`	`Tuller`	`I still hate that blizzard took /bg from me`
`00:51.19`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Web is fine, softweare is much more interesting in my opinion :)`
`00:51.31`	`cogwheel`	`same`
`00:52.01`	`cogwheel`	`though it is definitely satisfying when you finally get a site working correctly in IE :P`
`00:52.02`	`Bouvi`	`Bartender 3 seems pretty easy to set up.`
`00:52.09`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`What I really like in software is the GDI(+) and client/server part :)`
`00:52.52`	`Tuller`	`Bouvi: if you've come from discord, nearly anything is :)`
`00:53.10`	`Tuller`	`well, quicker at least`
`00:53.57`	`Bouvi`	`lol`
`00:54.20`	`Bouvi`	`My only problem is Bartender 3 is limited to 12 buttons a bar. How about Bongos?`
`00:54.31`	`Tuller`	`yes and no`
`00:55.15`	`Bouvi`	`So there is a middle ground lol`
`00:55.29`	`Tuller`	`yes there is :P`
`00:55.40`	`Tuller`	`bongos can do it, if you reduce the number of total bars`
`00:55.46`	`Bouvi`	`That works for me.`
`00:55.58`	`Bouvi`	`Downloading Bongos now`
`00:58.41`	`Bouvi`	`ohhhh a Verticle XP Bar now that is cool.`
`00:59.39`	`Corrodias`	`i have no long-term objective at this point, so i guess a short-term objective is my only option`
`00:59.45`	`Wobble`	`Happy New Year to y'all, (as I'm about to head off to a party =P)`
`01:00.07`	`Bouvi`	`What is a roll bar?`
`01:00.16`	`cogwheel`	`loot rolls iirc`
`01:00.25`	`Wobble`	`It stops your head being crushed when your car does a barrel roll =)`
`01:00.28`	`Corrodias`	`i'm giving xloot a try`
`01:00.58`	`Corrodias`	`the only problem i see is that i can't seem to access the menu unless there's a loot frame up`
`01:02.03`	`Bouvi`	`Hey Tuller I got rid of a few bars but can only get 12 in my first one.`
`01:02.34`	`Tuller`	`Bouvi: /bongos actionbar tab, set number of bars`
`01:03.02`	`Bouvi`	`Ahhh cool thanks.`
`01:03.39`	`Tuller`	`the system as it is right now is a bit on the weird side`
`01:04.14`	`Bouvi`	`Weird is good as long as it works I am happy and after DAB ANYTHING is easy. Just got to learn my way around hehe`
`01:05.33`	`Tuller`	`hrm this will probably need adjusting`
`01:05.48`	`Tuller`	`since my new system is over top of the default system if you don't bind a key it'll go back to whatever you had it bound to normally`
`01:07.10`	`Bouvi`	`I am really liking this Tuller`
`01:12.05`	`Bouvi`	`Tuller you my man are a genius!!!`
`01:13.17`	`Tuller`	`?`
`01:13.29`	`Bouvi`	`Bongos is awesome and so easy`
`01:13.50`	`Bouvi`	`If you had rounded buttons it would be perfect but I can live without.`
`01:13.56`	`Tuller`	`cycircled`
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`01:14.43`	`Bouvi`	`OK now your perfect lol`
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`01:18.11`	`Bouvi`	`The one I found on wowinterface says incompatible O.o`
`01:18.50`	`nevcairiel`	`http://www.wowace.com/files/cyCircled/cyCircled.zip`
`01:19.08`	`Bouvi`	`Thanks`
`01:21.23`	`Bouvi`	`OK that is sweet looking.`
`01:22.25`	`TonyD`	`hey, tuller, been meaning to ask about informant/enhtooltip working for vbanknon`
`01:22.48`	`Tuller`	`I'd assume its broken`
`01:23.17`	`Tuller`	`is there any special code I have to stick in?`
`01:23.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Haha, awesome! http://www.wowcountdown.com/`
`01:23.39`	`TonyD`	`wdunno, works except in away from bank viewing`
`01:23.59`	`Tuller`	`well that's because they do not hook sethyperlink, then`
`01:24.15`	`TonyD`	`k`
`01:25.45`	`TonyD`	`i'll make noise at the auctioneer devs`
`01:25.47`	`Industrial`	`Kirkburn: hehe`
`01:26.03`	`Kirkburn`	`Goddamn it can't come soon enough`
`01:26.35`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`question, can you safely destroy frames? Or does that increase overhead?`
`01:26.48`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Hey Ind, wsup ? how is your unit frame ? :)`
`01:27.02`	`cogwheel`	`frames exist in the C environment permanently (well until reload anyway)`
`01:27.24`	`cogwheel`	`so... not really :P`
`01:27.28`	`End`	`indeed, you should reuse your old frames`
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`01:32.31`	`Tuller`	`whee, state hotkeys`
`01:36.10`	`Bouvi`	`Tuller.... Feature request :) The ability to either increase hor or vert spacing instead of locking both.`
`01:43.20`	`Garthnait`	`has anybody an idea wich event tracks autoshot? like CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS`
`01:44.21`	`foxlit`	`tracks?`
`01:44.52`	`Bouvi`	`Got Bongos set up and switching for good. It is just as functional as Trinity but so easy to set up. 4 thumbs up. (Mine and my wife's)`
`01:45.02`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`START_AUTOREPEAT_SPELL`
`01:45.16`	`Tuller`	`hurray :)`
`01:45.35`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:45.37`	`Garthnait`	`no i mean wich event says how many damage/crit autoshot does`
`01:45.39`	`Bouvi`	`So now I need to update my addon pack with these buttons and update my UIs :)`
`01:45.40`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`these :)`
`01:46.04`	`Asheyla`	`perhaps CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE`
`01:46.09`	`Garthnait`	`no`
`01:46.14`	`Garthnait`	`it doesnt`
`01:46.19`	`Asheyla`	`really? weird`
`01:46.22`	`Garthnait`	`elseif event == "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE" then`
`01:46.22`	`Garthnait`	`for type, mob, dmg in string.gmatch(arg1, "Your (.+) crits (.+) for (%d+).") do`
`01:46.22`	`Garthnait`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Test2 ".. dmg..".")`
`01:46.22`	`Garthnait`	`end`
`01:46.31`	`Garthnait`	`this line doesnt track AS`
`01:46.49`	`Garthnait`	`Multishot, Arcaneshot is all fine`
`01:46.54`	`Kirkburn`	`G'night all!`
`01:46.56`	`Garthnait`	`but no Auto`
`01:47.00`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`night :)`
`01:47.00`	`Garthnait`	`gn8`
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`01:47.41`	`Asheyla`	`do a frame:RegisterAllEvents(), and do "if string.find(event,"CHAT") and string.find(arg1,"Auto Shot") then print(event) end"`
`01:48.03`	`Asheyla`	`and figure it out that way ^^`
`01:48.03`	`Garthnait`	`an extra fram in the xml?`
`01:48.08`	`Asheyla`	`no, just for testing`
`01:48.16`	`Asheyla`	`so you can find the event`
`01:48.41`	`Garthnait`	`how could i do this?`
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`01:49.09`	`Garthnait`	`an extra addon?`
`01:49.15`	`Garthnait`	`or what do you mean?`
`01:49.42`	`Asheyla`	`local f=CreateFrame("Frame") f:RegisterAllEvents() f:SetScript("OnEvent",function() if string.find(event,"CHAT") and string.find(arg1,"Auto Shot") then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(event..":"..arg1) end end)`
`01:49.47`	`Asheyla`	`in your lua`
`01:50.04`	`Asheyla`	`then just auto shot, and thisll tell you what the event is`
`01:50.13`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
`01:50.16`	`Asheyla`	`then delete the code and use the event`
`01:50.18`	`Garthnait`	`i try it`
`01:50.58`	`Garthnait`	`it says an error ingame`
`01:51.04`	`Garthnait`	`on line 1 ^^`
`01:51.46`	`Garthnait`	`but it goes`
`01:51.59`	`foxlit`	`Hm, I wonder.`
`01:52.12`	`foxlit`	`If you are stealthed, do people hear you /say ?`
`01:52.44`	`Shadowed`	`they should`
`01:52.47`	`Garthnait`	`but it says its CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS and with this event it doesnt count my autoshot crits`
`01:53.21`	`Asheyla`	`then wait for a crit and see what the script says`
`01:53.50`	`Bouvi`	`Can someone explain what this line does? Auto_LootFu:RegisterDB("Auto_LootFuDB")`
`01:54.06`	`Asheyla`	`ew, ace`
`01:54.35`	`Garthnait`	`CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS:Your Auto Shot crits Wendigo for 1124`
`01:54.39`	`Bouvi`	`It is a Fubar addon`
`01:54.52`	`Asheyla`	`Therefore that's the event, garth =]`
`01:55.12`	`Asheyla`	`and damn your 1k AS crits`
`01:55.15`	`Asheyla`	`they make me cry`
`01:55.17`	`Garthnait`	`but how do i implement it correctly to my addon`
`01:55.27`	`Asheyla`	`show me the code (pastey)`
`01:56.04`	`Garthnait`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4226`
`01:56.26`	`Asheyla`	`oo, german`
`01:56.35`	`Garthnait`	`Why does my 1K Autoshot makes you cry?`
`01:57.06`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`cause it hurts :P`
`01:57.06`	`Garthnait`	`AS Record 1259 ^^`
`01:57.15`	`Asheyla`	`for mob, dmg in string.gmatch(arg1, "You crit (.+) for (%d+).") do`
`01:57.18`	`Asheyla`	`....`
`01:57.32`	`Asheyla`	`Your Auto Shot crits XX for XX does not fit that pattern o.0`
`01:57.56`	`Tem\|AFK`	`you don't need a for loop`
`01:58.06`	`Tem\|AFK`	`god damn I'm sick of seeing people use that`
`01:58.20`	`Asheyla`	`im not even quite sure i know what gmatch does`
`01:58.21`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha :\|`
`01:58.26`	`Asheyla`	`ive never used it`
`01:58.39`	`Asheyla`	`im a simple man, string.find works for me`
`01:58.39`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`it takes a regex and match it to the text (pattern)`
`01:58.45`	`seebs`	`string.gmatch gives you an iterator function that will match multiple times.`
`01:58.53`	`Asheyla`	`oh, hah`
`01:59.00`	`Asheyla`	`i wrote a lua function to do that for me`
`01:59.03`	`seebs`	`So, for instance, if arg1 were "You crit X for Y. You crit W for Z." it would return {X,Y} and {W,Z}.`
`01:59.12`	`seebs`	`Which is useless, in this context.`
`01:59.17`	`Asheyla`	`true`
`01:59.37`	`Asheyla`	`i just made a parsestring() function to do it`
`01:59.39`	`Garthnait`	`how can i do this better? show me, plz`
`02:00.33`	`Asheyla`	`arg1 would be my text, arg2 is pattern1, arg3 is number of times i want to look for pattern1, arg4 is pattern2, etc.`
`02:00.35`	`Asheyla`	`it was fun`
`02:00.53`	`Asheyla`	`until i started causing infinite loops ><`
`02:00.59`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`lol`
`02:01.00`	`Asheyla`	`i fixed it though ^^`
`02:01.13`	`Asheyla`	`not after releasing an addon that caused infinite loops`
`02:01.18`	`Asheyla`	`oh well, never crashed for me`
`02:01.25`	`Asheyla`	`*not before`
`02:02.01`	`Asheyla`	`i hadnt realized that searching for .- (or something) repeatedly would return the empty string invinitely`
`02:02.04`	`Asheyla`	`*f`
`02:02.07`	`Asheyla`	`anyway`
`02:02.21`	`Asheyla`	`garth, do you want JUST AS crits, or white crits too`
`02:02.25`	`Asheyla`	`like you swinging sword`
`02:02.30`	`Garthnait`	`both`
`02:03.17`	`Garthnait`	`with sword it does what it have to`
`02:03.48`	`Asheyla`	`brb coding it`
`02:03.56`	`Garthnait`	`oh thanks alot`
`02:07.02`	`Asheyla`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4228 try that`
`02:07.02`	`Bouvi`	`Can someone take a look at the Fubar Addon http://www.bouvi.com/ui/autoloot.zip and see if they can tell me why my settings are not saving when I zone or relog. Even if I hide the icon it comes back.`
`02:07.23`	`Asheyla`	`tell me how you got your own domain`
`02:07.55`	`Bouvi`	`I have had my own domains for years lol. www.masterfritts.com is mine too.`
`02:08.13`	`Garthnait`	`i'll test it`
`02:08.23`	`Bouvi`	`Thanks :)`
`02:08.25`	`Asheyla`	`i want one ><`
`02:08.50`	`Bouvi`	`I got the domain from Dotster and paid for hosting at www.webservio.net`
`02:08.58`	`Asheyla`	`how much is it?`
`02:09.12`	`Bouvi`	`$15 per year for the domain and $8 a month for the hosting.`
`02:09.24`	`Asheyla`	`gah`
`02:09.32`	`Garthnait`	`it works thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks`
`02:09.35`	`Asheyla`	`maybe when i go to college`
`02:09.36`	`Asheyla`	`np`
`02:09.40`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Yeah I have few domains on my real name I bought too :P`
`02:09.49`	`Asheyla`	`you people make me jealous`
`02:09.51`	`Bouvi`	`I went to college once lol. Many years ago.`
`02:10.00`	`Asheyla`	`im a senior in hs ^^`
`02:10.09`	`Asheyla`	`big choice coming up for me o.0`
`02:10.13`	`Bouvi`	`Well I was in college before you were born then lol`
`02:10.19`	`Asheyla`	`hah nice`
`02:10.25`	`Asheyla`	`where'd you go`
`02:10.31`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`eyal.cc is one of the shorters of the ones I have :P`
`02:10.56`	`Bouvi`	`Small community college called Roane State then to the University of Tennessee. Got bored, dropped out and have regretted it ever since.`
`02:11.27`	`Asheyla`	`interesting`
`02:11.38`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`z-ya later :)`
`02:11.39`	`Garthnait`	`Asheyla: Now the next step. I wish that my AddOn give out text on an amount auf crit. Crit over 1000 then TExtA, Crit over 1750 then TextB. How do i realize this?`
`02:12.17`	`Asheyla`	`dmg = tonumber(dmg) if dmg > 1000 then print(a) elseif dmg > 1750 then print(b) end`
`02:12.27`	`Asheyla`	`print should be changed to whatever`
`02:12.48`	`Asheyla`	`it should go inside the if-then statement`
`02:12.49`	`Garthnait`	`and whre du ich place this line?`
`02:12.50`	`Bouvi`	`You can set it up with if statements pretty easily using and. If (variable >1000) and (variable < 1751) then`
`02:13.13`	`Asheyla`	`the if-then statement around the current print() i mean`
`02:13.17`	`seebs`	`Give out text?`
`02:13.21`	`seebs`	`Like, to console, or what?`
`02:13.34`	`Asheyla`	`it's obviously handing it out as donations.`
`02:13.35`	`Asheyla`	`...`
`02:13.56`	`Asheyla`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() was what he was doing`
`02:13.58`	`seebs`	`AnnoyRP already has nearly all the hooks to do things like "if I crit someone for >1700 damage, yell Hoody-Hoo".`
`02:13.59`	`Garthnait`	`i haven't understood whre do i place the line: dmg = tonumber(dmg) if dmg > 1000 then print(a) elseif dmg > 1750 then print(b) end`
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`02:14.46`	`Bouvi`	`The problem with that If thou is it will stop at anything above 1000 and never to an elseif`
`02:15.14`	`Garthnait`	`the biggest amount must be in front i think`
`02:15.35`	`Garthnait`	`if >1750 than a elseif >1000 then b`
`02:15.38`	`Garthnait`	`right?`
`02:16.28`	`Bouvi`	`I prefer to use an and. If x>1000 and X<1750 then... Elseif X>1750 then...`
`02:17.04`	`Garthnait`	`but whre do i place this line?`
`02:17.09`	`Bouvi`	`That makes it easier if you want to add different amounts later. Like 1000 to 1200 and 1200 to 1500.`
`02:17.18`	`Garthnait`	`in the OnEvent function?`
`02:17.22`	`Bouvi`	`Not looked at your code so not sure.`
`02:17.25`	`Asheyla`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4231`
`02:17.38`	`Bouvi`	`Ahseyla says around the current print`
`02:17.58`	`Garthnait`	`ah cool thanks`
`02:18.15`	`Asheyla`	`i should be working on my own code ><`
`02:18.18`	`Asheyla`	`meh, tomorrow`
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`02:21.40`	`Garthnait`	`i have to define msgA right?`
`02:21.51`	`Asheyla`	`and msgB`
`02:21.54`	`Asheyla`	`and defaultMsg`
`02:22.03`	`Garthnait`	`okay, now i come closer ^^`
`02:22.21`	`Asheyla`	`well actually`
`02:22.27`	`Asheyla`	`you dont even need to define`
`02:22.41`	`Bouvi`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4232 I recommend a slight change to this. This will add for future expansion. Notice the >1749 so it will include 1750 since we have no > or = to 1750.`
`02:22.42`	`Asheyla`	`just replace 'msgA' or whatever with the msg you actually want`
`02:23.33`	`Asheyla`	`sure`
`02:23.48`	`Asheyla`	`that's just detail though`
`02:23.57`	`Bouvi`	`The devil is in the details. :)`
`02:24.19`	`Asheyla`	`if i would pay attention to detail id never have any bugs`
`02:24.30`	`Asheyla`	`but i dont. so i do.`
`02:24.49`	`Bouvi`	`lol`
`02:25.33`	`Asheyla`	`srsly all my errors are misspelled variables, slightly-off if-then statements, me forgetting what variable im using, etc`
`02:26.08`	`Asheyla`	`deciding i named a function something else while calling it and never changing it's actual definition`
`02:26.21`	`Asheyla`	`removing features but leaving their documentation`
`02:26.27`	`Asheyla`	`(2.0 changes)`
`02:26.34`	`Asheyla`	`it's sad really`
`02:27.08`	`Bouvi`	`I was going crazy on this one part on my addon and all it was was that I had a variable misspelled.`
`02:27.17`	`Asheyla`	`or just now, putting 1000 before 1750`
`02:27.27`	`Asheyla`	`oh god i know, it's horrible`
`02:27.36`	`Asheyla`	`esp. if you misspell it as another variable`
`02:27.46`	`Asheyla`	`i had 'i' instead of 'id' once`
`02:27.57`	`Asheyla`	`causing 75% of my interface to fail`
`02:28.03`	`Garthnait`	`is the ...dmg = tonumber(dmg) ... only for my AS Melee Hcrits?`
`02:28.09`	`Asheyla`	`but the other 25% was perfect ^^`
`02:28.20`	`Asheyla`	`garth, i wrote it to only include auto shot`
`02:28.32`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay, only AS`
`02:29.17`	`Asheyla`	`rarely is my idea of implementation actually messed up - and when it is, it sidetracks me for hours =] - all my failures come from lack of attention`
`02:29.36`	`Asheyla`	`i dont know whether this is good or really bad`
`02:30.57`	`Garthnait`	`i try to implement the message for the spellcrits on my self and give announce when i have problems ^^ thanks a lot so far`
`02:31.23`	`Asheyla`	`you want a msg when you yourself get crit?`
`02:31.41`	`Asheyla`	`seems reasonable`
`02:31.43`	`Garthnait`	`no, when my spells crit like multishot`
`02:31.46`	`Asheyla`	`ohh`
`02:31.50`	`Garthnait`	`so every damage i make`
`02:32.03`	`Asheyla`	`ah`
`02:32.24`	`Garthnait`	`when the amount of crit ist reached`
`02:33.21`	`Asheyla`	`is it hard as a german to code in english-based languages`
`02:33.46`	`Garthnait`	`oh yes`
`02:34.13`	`Asheyla`	`i guess it's amplified in Lua`
`02:34.20`	`Asheyla`	`since it's so... grammatical`
`02:34.26`	`Asheyla`	`not as much in C and whatnot`
`02:34.40`	`Asheyla`	`besides if, while, etc.`
`02:34.44`	`Corrodias`	`what?`
`02:34.56`	`Asheyla`	`what what`
`02:35.20`	`Corrodias`	`C isn't as "grammatical"?`
`02:35.31`	`Asheyla`	`as in, english grammar`
`02:35.38`	`Garthnait`	`i only have my school english und thats long ago. i try to polish my english in playing gamesin UK Versions`
`02:35.46`	`Corrodias`	`i guess i'm not familiar with all of the Lua keywords`
`02:35.54`	`Asheyla`	`opting instead for {'s, }'s, and ;'s`
`02:36.05`	`Corrodias`	`what is opting?`
`02:36.23`	`Asheyla`	`opting = choosing`
`02:36.44`	`Corrodias`	`i have no idea what you're saying`
`02:36.55`	`Asheyla`	`C: int x; while (x < 5) { x += 1;}`
`02:37.11`	`Asheyla`	`Lua: while x < 5 do x = x + 1 end`
`02:37.17`	`Corrodias`	`ah`
`02:37.33`	`Asheyla`	`i bet it's easier for a german to understand C`
`02:37.39`	`Corrodias`	`yes, that's rather irritating to me, even as an english speaker`
`02:37.48`	`Asheyla`	`which is`
`02:38.22`	`Asheyla`	`lua?`
`02:38.23`	`Corrodias`	`it's easier to quickly visually process the information when it uses brackets and parenthases than when it uses "just more words"`
`02:38.23`	`Corrodias`	`yes`
`02:38.23`	`Asheyla`	`well that's what tabs are for`
`02:38.26`	`Asheyla`	`=]`
`02:38.45`	`Corrodias`	`where's the conditional? well, let's find the "do" and then anything between that and the "while" must be it`
`02:38.58`	`Corrodias`	`where's the do? searching, searching`
`02:39.09`	`Asheyla`	`i mean, in english it is "While x is less than 5, add one to it."`
`02:39.11`	`Corrodias`	`found it! oh, no, that was just part of a variable name. keep going!`
`02:39.16`	`Asheyla`	`heh`
`02:39.19`	`Garthnait`	`Asheyla: Could you plz modify the lua, so the msgA and so on also works for Spell and Melee Crits? http://wowi.pastey.net/4233`
`02:39.49`	`Asheyla`	`"while x is less than 5, do this: add one to x"`
`02:39.56`	`Asheyla`	`meh, it flows`
`02:40.04`	`Asheyla`	`it's just higher level`
`02:40.10`	`Asheyla`	`Garth`
`02:40.20`	`Garthnait`	`yes?`
`02:40.25`	`Asheyla`	`try for yourself for a bit =D it's how you learn`
`02:40.32`	`Asheyla`	`you see how i did it for AS`
`02:40.36`	`Asheyla`	`just take the same approach`
`02:40.46`	`Garthnait`	`okay, i try to put the script to spell damage`
`02:40.50`	`Asheyla`	`after you mess for a bit ill help you`
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`02:42.12`	`Garthnait`	`hmm i made a autoshot crit with 1100 Damage, but no message`
`02:42.16`	`JoshBork1`	`bah! blizzard changed the tooltip between 1.12 and 2.0`
`02:42.22`	`Asheyla`	`which TT`
`02:42.30`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`does the hunter's ability Volley give you a channeling bar with the default Casting Bar? I have no high level hunter to check with`
`02:42.32`	`JoshBork1`	`GameToolTip`
`02:42.43`	`Garthnait`	`no neuro`
`02:43.03`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`ok then =)`
`02:43.06`	`Asheyla`	`garth, did you ever define msgA, etc?`
`02:43.15`	`Garthnait`	`wlocal msgA = Test1`
`02:43.20`	`Garthnait`	`-w`
`02:43.32`	`Garthnait`	`local msgDefault = TestTest`
`02:43.32`	`Garthnait`	`local msgA = Test1`
`02:43.32`	`Garthnait`	`local msgB = Test2`
`02:43.43`	`Asheyla`	`well you didnt define Test1`
`02:43.47`	`Asheyla`	`or 2`
`02:43.55`	`Asheyla`	`put quotes around em`
`02:44.11`	`Asheyla`	`josh, howd they change it`
`02:44.18`	`Garthnait`	`thanks ^^`
`02:44.31`	`Asheyla`	`msgA = "Test1"`
`02:44.32`	`Asheyla`	`etc.`
`02:44.51`	`Garthnait`	`local msgDefault = "TestTest"`
`02:44.51`	`Garthnait`	`local msgA = "Test1"`
`02:44.51`	`Garthnait`	`local msgB = "Test2"`
`02:44.57`	`Asheyla`	`sure`
`02:45.05`	`JoshBork1`	`Asheyla: they got rid of most of the text lines (i think they made them dynamic)`
`02:45.16`	`Asheyla`	`oo, tricky`
`02:45.23`	`Garthnait`	`thanks it works`
`02:45.26`	`Asheyla`	`good for them`
`02:45.50`	`Garthnait`	`now i try to place it for the spells`
`02:48.50`	`Garthnait`	`yes i do lern ^^`
`02:48.59`	`Garthnait`	`and now the melee ^^`
`03:02.36`	`lectrd`	`About the hunter volley channeling bar: It should, but is currently bugged and does not.`
`03:08.16`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`lectrd, then that's blizzard's thing, not mine =)`
`03:09.23`	`lectrd`	`Yeh`
`03:09.33`	`lectrd`	`One second and I'll logon to beta and see if they've fixed it yet.`
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`03:11.28`	`End`	`hmm`
`03:11.35`	`End`	`someone just offered to send me pizza money`
`03:12.00`	`lectrd`	`The channel bar is working in beta.`
`03:13.37`	`Guillotine`	`End: I've had that before. Didn't have a paypal account at the time though :(`
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`03:25.24`	`End`	`Guillotine: yeah, that's my problem too`
`03:26.00`	`Guillotine`	`you could just give them my paypal account. I'll send you pictures of the pizza >.>`
`03:26.34`	`Guillotine`	`heh. its actually REAL fast to make a paypal account. You can get it set up in about 1 minute. You'll just need to spend some time later to take the money out of it`
`03:26.58`	`End`	`I'll have to do that then`
`03:27.40`	`Garthnait`	`bouvi?`
`03:30.36`	`Guillotine`	`has anybody actually tested Automootic in BGs?`
`03:41.51`	`Corrodias`	`paypal is ... unreliable. you should avoid using them for anything important.`
`03:42.42`	`JoshBork1`	`don't use it for pizza!`
`03:43.45`	`Corrodias`	`their array of various "disallowed" uses is enough to put me off, but the lack of regulation because they're not a bank doesn't help`
`03:45.07`	`Bouvi`	`Sorry was ADK Garthnait whats up`
`03:45.30`	`Bouvi`	`s/AFK/ADK/`
`03:45.39`	`Bouvi`	`I can never get that right.`
`03:45.58`	`Corrodias`	`the one you want to replace comes first`
`03:46.23`	`Bouvi`	`Yeah I keep switching it in my head lol`
`03:48.35`	`Bouvi`	`Garthnait did you need me?`
`03:56.29`	`Garthnait`	`oh, bouvi? roght here?`
`03:56.46`	`Bouvi`	`Well somewhere lol`
`03:56.56`	`Garthnait`	`mom i'Ve a little question`
`03:56.57`	`Tuller`	`hurray, I finally have my, "Everything hides when I'm in travel or aquatic form" thing`
`03:57.07`	`JoshBork1`	`yay!`
`03:57.17`	`JoshBork1`	`what if you're in combat when you go aquatic?`
`03:57.29`	`Tuller`	`well, I still have the shapeshift bar shown`
`03:57.39`	`Tuller`	`I would just switch out and everything will be back`
`03:57.43`	`Tuller`	`you can still do that :P`
`03:57.44`	`Garthnait`	`in the OnEvent ich have http://wowi.pastey.net/4234`
`03:57.50`	`JoshBork1`	`ich habe!`
`03:57.57`	`Garthnait`	`must i have line 10 to 12?`
`03:58.06`	`Garthnait`	`i have ^^`
`03:58.23`	`JoshBork1`	`;-)`
`03:58.37`	`Bouvi`	`Your asking the wrong person there. I am new to all this. The If Then statements were easy since they are in all programming languages.`
`03:58.56`	`Garthnait`	`hmkay`
`03:59.06`	`Bouvi`	`Sorry I am very much a newb here.`
`03:59.22`	`Garthnait`	`i think the lines are useless`
`03:59.55`	`Bouvi`	`Well line 10 puts the message in your chat window and so does line 12.`
`04:00.11`	`Bouvi`	`If you want messages in your chat that is the lines doing it.`
`04:00.20`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
`04:00.38`	`Garthnait`	`but in line 12 the mesage, when does that message appear?`
`04:01.16`	`Bouvi`	`When it is not spell. That is the else to your if spell then statment`
`04:01.50`	`Garthnait`	`ah, a "You crit blah"?`
`04:02.08`	`Garthnait`	`like melee do?`
`04:02.14`	`Bouvi`	`I am guessing so yes.`
`04:02.21`	`Garthnait`	`okay`
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`04:02.38`	`Garthnait`	`thnaks so long`
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`04:02.47`	`Garthnait`	`its now bedtime for me ^^`
`04:02.53`	`Bouvi`	`But it is on the verge of going over my head so might want to check with others.`
`04:02.58`	`Bouvi`	`Later`
`04:03.01`	`Garthnait`	`gn8 all`
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`04:35.33`	`MentalPower\|Busy`	`UNIT_MANA?`
`04:35.37`	`Thunder_Child`	`FUCK_OOM_AGAIN`
`04:35.45`	`MentalPower\|Busy`	`arg1 of "player"`
`04:36.59`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`thx`
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`05:45.12`	`Corrodias`	`methinks people tend to underestimate the complexity of playing classes they've never played`
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`06:02.23`	`Mr_Rabies2\|away`	`sho'nuff`
`06:02.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`despite me missing the begining of that conversation possibly, i agree there`
`06:02.50`	`Thunder_Child`	`he was the begining of the conversation`
`06:02.54`	`Corrodias`	`yes`
`06:03.53`	`Corrodias`	`i just saw something about how warlocks are so more complex to play than the simpler classes. i'm not saying that they're wrong; i've never tried a warlock and rogues do seem pretty straight-forward in comparison to hunters, but it sure reminded me of how i used to think when i only had 2 characters.`
`06:04.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`warlocks are not complex to play.`
`06:04.44`	`Corrodias`	`pets and reagents!`
`06:04.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`have i leveled one to 60? no, i've gotten one to mid-levels and played a 60 extensively though`
`06:05.09`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`the most complex part of a lock is using your pet spells effectively, and if you know what you're doing it's no harder than just using your own spells`
`06:05.57`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`then again i started out with my druid`
`06:06.02`	`Corrodias`	`i had enough trouble with the hunter, because i was doing things "wrong", to be honest. i was fighting creatures above my own level and trying to get my pet to tank.`
`06:06.04`	`Shadowed`	`Rogues are easy to play, hard to play well`
`06:06.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`nothing is complex after playing a druid, really`
`06:06.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`except maybe playing a pally properly`
`06:06.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`pallies require so much micromanagement to play at 100%`
`06:06.48`	`Corrodias`	`i believe it. they can do damn near everything`
`06:07.02`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`yeah that's part of their balance`
`06:07.25`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`them being so difficult to play at 100% you rarely ever see them running at full`
`06:07.50`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`since they're easier to play than druids, but about as hard to play RIGHT`
`06:08.15`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`only because of their innate survivability are they easier to play though`
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`06:09.08`	`Corrodias`	`i think... i need more sleep`
`06:09.40`	`Corrodias`	`i can impress myself if i'm well-rested, but i hate sleeping so much that i haven't been well-rested in ... probably over a year`
`06:11.54`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i work better when i'm in a state of almost passing out`
`06:11.59`	`Corrodias`	`at least, i'd like to say i can. it's just that i don't remember what it's like any more. i keep giving myself the excuse, "well, i'd probably be better if i could think straight".`
`06:12.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i have that extra edge of wanting to finish so i can sleep to make me more precise`
`06:12.28`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`when i'm fully awake i usually half-ass things cause why bother`
`06:13.50`	`Corrodias`	`see, i can't do that`
`06:14.02`	`Corrodias`	`and i actually have evidence of it, these days`
`06:14.23`	`Corrodias`	`i tried to complete a programming assignment while exhausted one night, and these was a very simple thing that i just couldn't do.`
`06:14.30`	`cladhaire`	`drink instead`
`06:14.35`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`06:14.37`	`Corrodias`	`the next day after getting some rest, i did it in 5 seconds (of course it was too late by then).`
`06:14.40`	`cladhaire`	`Or in addition to`
`06:14.57`	`Corrodias`	`if i drink i get drowsy, again because i'm so tired.`
`06:24.11`	`cladhaire`	`woot`
`06:24.16`	`cladhaire`	`think i finally killed the clique issue`
`06:24.22`	`Corrodias`	`what issue?`
`06:25.10`	`Gnarfoz_`	`apache prefork or apache worker -.O`
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`06:25.32`	`Gnarfoz_`	`setting up a 'simple' server nowadays has gotten quite complicated oO`
`06:33.28`	`cladhaire`	`Gnarfoz_: worker if you can and don't need the thread-safeness`
`06:33.37`	`cladhaire`	`most php stuff isn't threadsafe tho`
`06:33.38`	`Gnarfoz_`	`need php`
`06:33.39`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:>`
`06:33.59`	`Gnarfoz_`	`found out through reading the descriptions, anyway ^^`
`06:34.42`	`Gnarfoz_`	`works already, although it seems to not really catch on to file changes (got a file in the wwwroot, it does not display it o_O)`
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`07:16.55`	`Industrial`	`haste: din 27`
`07:16.59`	`Industrial`	`ding*`
`07:17.43`	`haste`	`I know that :D`
`07:17.56`	`haste`	`I asked you in-game how far it was left until 38 :`
`07:18.05`	`haste`	`28*`
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`07:30.58`	`sysrage`	`there a way to make a macro that opens trade and automatically puts 2 stacks of water into the trade?`
`07:34.46`	`xsarpedon`	`I'm trying to call the function SolBG.test when I have it as a string, I tried getglobal("SolBG.test")(); but that doesn't seem to be working. If I were to call the function just test and call getglobal("test")(); that seems to work, is it possible to get the other working?`
`07:37.04`	`Industrial`	`haste: 20k or so brb store`
`07:37.15`	`Industrial`	`haste: today im aiming for ... 34 :>`
`07:37.22`	`haste`	`:-P`
`07:37.44`	`Thrae`	`Hey, is there an easier way in 2.0 to tell if you're in a BG or not? I'm still evaluating GetRealZoneText().`
`07:37.52`	`haste`	`I shouldn't really say anything, I did 52-60 in less then four days on the rogue`
`07:38.23`	`Industrial`	`you mean im slow?`
`07:38.26`	`Industrial`	`well yah`
`07:38.26`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`07:47.43`	`Gnarfoz_`	`need that kind of leveling on my warrior :\`
`07:47.47`	`Gnarfoz_`	`only two weeks left now`
`07:56.14`	`sysrage`	`nobody knows any tricks for macros to trade?`
`08:02.27`	`xsarpedon`	`I'm quite a noob, but I don't see any function to place items into a trade window. http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Trading_Functions`
`08:03.15`	`xsarpedon`	`I probably just don't know the proper way to do it`
`08:15.48`	`sysrage`	`can use PickupContainerItem() and ClickTradeButton() maybe`
`08:16.03`	`sysrage`	`but that's gonna end up using too many characters for what i want`
`08:25.31`	`KarlThePagan`	`the LFG mod is coming! http://www.nightelfcollective.com/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1483`
`08:27.14`	`haste`	`KarlThePagan: my Firefox crashed when I opened that :D`
`08:27.34`	`KarlThePagan`	`lol haste not using 2.0?`
`08:27.50`	`haste`	`I am`
`08:28.26`	`KarlThePagan`	`aw wierd... that's what i'm running and i haven't seen a crash yet :/`
`08:28.39`	`KarlThePagan`	`direct link to jpg - http://www.nightelfcollective.com/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=1483`
`08:28.46`	`haste`	`It worked after I started it again`
`08:28.50`	`KarlThePagan`	`heh`
`08:28.54`	`haste`	`guess it doesn't like running 30 days straight`
`08:30.03`	`Cairenn`	`Thrae: which category would you prefer it be put in, since I can pull it back out of Outdated now?`
`08:31.08`	`Thrae`	`Cairenn: Since it's designed to only work in Combat, I think that'd be best. Or Ace, since it's also Ace2. Whichever. I forget where it was before.`
`08:51.08`	`Industrial`	`why why why!!! all itemdb sites are flawed!`
`08:51.21`	`Gnarfoz_`	`how so?`
`08:51.44`	`Industrial`	`when im looking for a bow usable at level 27 dont include bows that dont have level requirements that are rewards from quests that do have a level requirement higher then 27`
`08:51.54`	`Industrial`	`its anoying!`
`08:52.00`	`Industrial`	`and doesnt make sense imo`
`08:52.09`	`Industrial`	`also, whats 'itemlevel' ? that has no use.`
`08:52.26`	`Gnarfoz_`	`itemlevel is the item's level.`
`08:52.40`	`Gnarfoz_`	`and not all quest rewards don't have level requirements or are not bop`
`08:52.41`	`Gnarfoz_`	`:>`
`08:52.45`	`Thrae`	`Industrial: It's an internal number used to determine what mobs should drop the item.`
`08:53.06`	`Gnarfoz_`	`also manages how many stats the item is allowed to have`
`08:53.14`	`Gnarfoz_`	`(in conjunction with item quality)`
`08:53.19`	`Industrial`	`Gnarfoz_: yeah so include that but dont include Lohn'goron, Bow of the Torn-heart`
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`08:53.52`	`Gnarfoz_`	`whatever? ^^ can't be _that_ many quest-reward bows around for level 27?`
`08:54.04`	`Industrial`	`this applies to every search`
`08:54.39`	`Gnarfoz_`	`I use brain.exe for higher-level filtering stuff like that, if the page does not have good enough filtering`
`08:54.41`	`Gnarfoz_`	`;>`
`08:54.48`	`Industrial`	`but i guess thats just too much database stress or something`
`08:55.04`	`Gnarfoz_`	`although for most stuff I prefer allakhazam, I must say I like thottbot's item search better, for this kind of stuff`
`08:55.27`	`Industrial`	`i usually use wowhead because it doesnt seem to have 'false' items like thottbot`
`08:57.55`	`Industrial`	`http://tinyurl.com/ybrsq7`
`08:57.58`	`Industrial`	`thanks allakhazam`
`08:57.59`	`Industrial`	`:D`
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`09:12.31`	`ViRii[K]`	`Anyone a Psychology major?`
`09:13.14`	`Inside`	`~_~ nope.`
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`09:22.17`	`Industrial`	`lol qhy ViRii[K]`
`09:22.20`	`Industrial`	`why*`
`09:22.55`	`Industrial`	`I think hunter is my fav class :o`
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`09:23.05`	`ViRii[K]`	`I have a few questions`
`09:23.13`	`Industrial`	`track hidden, eagle eye`
`09:23.19`	`Industrial`	`aspect of the cheetah`
`09:23.25`	`Industrial`	`ab = win :D`
`09:23.46`	`Industrial`	`last game we had all points and we were driving them into their house and ganking them on their graveyard`
`09:23.52`	`Industrial`	`>:D`
`09:26.23`	`haste`	`shouldn't you be doing WSG for the bow :3 ?`
`09:30.37`	`Industrial`	`er, yes`
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`10:04.22`	`bleetah`	`you know what'd be really nice of Blizz to do, run a comp each month for mod authors, and donate a PiL book to say iriel, to give away to the 'most improved' author, or similar`
`10:07.01`	`nevcairiel`	`they should give it to the last one on the list, maybe he can improve.`
`10:08.15`	`bleetah`	`lol`
`10:08.18`	`bleetah`	`btw, happy new year folks`
`10:10.18`	`bleetah`	`i'm just thinking it'd be a quicker way for me to get the PiL book`
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`10:15.47`	`bleetah`	`heya tc3driver`
`10:15.53`	`Garthnait`	`Good Morningn`
`10:15.55`	`tc3driver`	`yo!`
`10:16.08`	`bleetah`	`good evening, Garthnait`
`10:16.17`	`tc3driver`	`mornin Garoun\|Loupana`
`10:16.22`	`tc3driver`	`wow...`
`10:16.27`	`tc3driver`	`I must be tired`
`10:16.38`	`tc3driver`	`Garthnait, sorry, and good monin`
`10:17.32`	`Garthnait`	`Is it to earlie to get some help with my AddOn? or do i ask?`
`10:17.56`	`tc3driver`	`early, late, the interwebs knows no time!`
`10:18.02`	`Garthnait`	`^^`
`10:18.43`	`tc3driver`	`not that I would be of any great assistance, as I am trying to figure the whole addon/mod thing`
`10:19.11`	`Garthnait`	`so, i've my addon runnning. it gives out a message everytime i crit. now i will plce a sound when the message appear`
`10:20.06`	`Garthnait`	`the code: http://wowi.pastey.net/4247`
`10:21.35`	`Garthnait`	`how do i implement sound?`
`10:22.44`	`ckknight`	`PlaySound`
`10:23.13`	`bleetah`	`windows will play oggs and mp3s and wavs, macos doesn't seem to like oggs`
`10:23.42`	`Garthnait`	`can i place PlaySound into the variable? in this line local msgA = "\|c00ff8000[GodLike] \|c0000BFFFYEAH!"`
`10:25.34`	`tc3driver`	`this is a bit too heavy for me at 02:30.... I am going to bed... night all`
`10:26.04`	`ckknight`	`Garthnait: ah, no.`
`10:26.13`	`Garthnait`	`2:30? its 11:30 am ^^`
`10:26.34`	`bleetah`	`21:26`
`10:27.35`	`bleetah`	`night mate`
`10:27.50`	`Garthnait`	`coan i make a new variable like msg = msgA? and can i put this in line like: if dmg > CRIT1 and dmg < CRIT3 then msg = msgA and sound = soundA?`
`10:38.44`	`Garthnait`	`anyboby here that can help me implementing sound?`
`10:39.34`	`haste`	`http://xrl.us/t3nn << mounts have scuba masks now?`
`10:40.11`	`Garthnait`	`lol`
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`10:59.07`	`Garth`	`lol whats wrong? y is Garthnait just here? ^^`
`10:59.18`	`Garth`	`now i have to wait for ping timeout`
`10:59.30`	`zenzelezz`	`did you register the nick Garthnait?`
`10:59.43`	`Garth`	`not at all, i've to ^^`
`10:59.44`	`TML`	`Garth: nickserv can ghost it for you, if you registered`
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`11:00.10`	`zenzelezz`	`like TML said, if you had registered it then you could tell nickserv to disconnect the ghost`
`11:00.24`	`Garth`	`how do i do this?`
`11:00.24`	`zenzelezz`	`and you could also send/receive private messages`
`11:00.35`	`zenzelezz`	`/msg nickserv help`
`11:00.45`	`zenzelezz`	`should have instructions for most stuff`
`11:00.53`	`Garth`	`thx`
`11:02.53`	`Garth`	`so, back to my problem`
`11:03.33`	`Garth`	`why doest it not work when add ..dmg to: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg)`
`11:04.14`	`zenzelezz`	`where do you add it?`
`11:04.28`	`Garthnait`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg ..dmg..)`
`11:04.32`	`Sstixrud`	`I am having an odd problem with my addon. My addon creates 60 buttons (60-120) and then hides them based on how many the user wants to be visable for Party Members and him/herself (2-12 buttons per player/group member). The problem is the buttons unhide themselfs whenever an item is dragged.`
`11:04.51`	`zenzelezz`	`Garthnait: unless you're adding some more after the "dmg", remove the last two dots`
`11:05.01`	`Sstixrud`	`but only spells/items that are activeatabe. Anyone know why this is? and more importantly how to avoid it`
`11:05.16`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
`11:09.19`	`Garthnait`	`can anybody told me, where i can find the color codes for wow? in a table or so`
`11:09.38`	`zenzelezz`	`color codes?`
`11:09.49`	`Garthnait`	`like this c00ff8000`
`11:10.12`	`nymbia`	`aarrggbb`
`11:10.16`	`zenzelezz`	`nothing special about those, they're just normal ARGB hexadecimal values`
`11:10.41`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
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`11:14.08`	`Garthnait`	`so, now i will implement sound.`
`11:14.29`	`Garthnait`	`when the message appears then a sound should played`
`11:14.39`	`Garthnait`	`how do i relaize that?`
`11:15.22`	`zenzelezz`	`place a PlaySound() line after your ...AddMessage() line I would guess`
`11:15.51`	`Garthnait`	`but i have several text for variables`
`11:16.02`	`Garthnait`	`when crit is over 1250 then message a`
`11:16.29`	`Mery`	`if then else end :)`
`11:16.32`	`Garthnait`	`can i place it in this line? if dmg > CRIT1 and dmg < CRIT3 then msg = msgA like: if dmg > CRIT1 and dmg < CRIT3 then msg = msgA an PlaySound`
`11:16.58`	`Mery`	`yeah should be fine`
`11:17.23`	`zenzelezz`	`assuming you don't literally mean "msgA and PlaySound". msg = msgA; PlaySound()`
`11:17.46`	`Mery`	`what zenzelezz said (was about to type the same lol)`
`11:17.56`	`zenzelezz`	`or possibly just make a variable for the sound file to be played like you're doing with the message, and pass that one to PlaySound after your AddMessage call`
`11:18.10`	`Garthnait`	`so? if dmg > CRIT1 and dmg < CRIT3 then msg = msgA PlaySound()`
`11:21.14`	`Mery`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4249`
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`11:25.42`	`Garthnait`	`so okay, i've added this to my lua. now i create the local: local soundA = PlaySound()`
`11:25.43`	`Garthnait`	`right?`
`11:25.51`	`zenzelezz`	`no`
`11:26.19`	`zenzelezz`	`use Mery's example, it looks like it does exactly what you're saying you want it to`
`11:27.22`	`Garthnait`	`but where do i define wich ound is played?`
`11:27.44`	`zenzelezz`	`should be fairly obvious... the "sound" variable in his example`
`11:28.13`	`Garthnait`	`i now have sound = soundA`
`11:28.26`	`Garthnait`	`but where do i know what soundA is`
`11:28.42`	`zenzelezz`	`I'm sorry, right now you're just confusing me`
`11:28.50`	`Mery`	`paste your code (using http://wowi.pastey.net )`
`11:29.29`	`Garthnait`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4250`
`11:30.27`	`bleetah`	`update announcement: new RSS/Atom/FOAF/OPML feeds added to http://www.planet-warcraft.com`
`11:31.57`	`zenzelezz`	`you need to define the sounds yourself... I can't see soundA/B/C anywhere except where you try to assign them to the sound variable`
`11:32.19`	`Garthnait`	`yes that i would know, where do i do this`
`11:32.31`	`Garthnait`	`and what exeactly i have to write`
`11:32.40`	`zenzelezz`	`anywhere... probably the same place you define your msgA/B/C would be a good place`
`11:33.03`	`Garthnait`	`okaym and how doesit look like, that the programm will load the file?`
`11:33.21`	`Mery`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaySound`
`11:33.23`	`Garthnait`	`local soundA = (whats here)`
`11:34.04`	`Mery`	`some string from the list in the wiki article`
`11:34.07`	`Garthnait`	`oh thanks i have a look`
`11:34.19`	`Mery`	`or if you want your own soundfile to be played then you need to use http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaySoundFile`
`11:34.52`	`Garthnait`	`PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\\MyAddOn\\mysound.wav"); thats what i need`
`11:34.53`	`Garthnait`	`thx`
`11:36.00`	`Garthnait`	`so it should work: local soundA = PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\\GodLike\\Sounds\\yeah.wav");`
`11:36.18`	`Garthnait`	`right?`
`11:36.20`	`zenzelezz`	`no, no, no...`
`11:36.31`	`zenzelezz`	`why do you keep wanting to assign it to something?`
`11:36.47`	`Garthnait`	`you confuse me`
`11:37.11`	`Mery`	`no you only want to store the string in soundA`
`11:37.21`	`zenzelezz`	`PlaySoundFile() doesn't return anything`
`11:37.46`	`zenzelezz`	`local SoundA = "Interface\\AddOns\\GodLike\\Sounds\\yeah.wav";`
`11:37.52`	`zenzelezz`	`PlaySoundFile(SoundA);`
`11:38.10`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
`11:38.13`	`Garthnait`	`i understand`
`11:38.20`	`Garthnait`	`i think ^^`
`11:39.01`	`Garthnait`	`this line DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg ..dmg);`
`11:39.01`	`Garthnait`	`PlaySound(soundA);`
`11:39.02`	`zenzelezz`	`:)`
`11:39.16`	`zenzelezz`	`PlaySoundFile(sound);`
`11:39.24`	`Garthnait`	`and sound b under that line right?`
`11:39.52`	`zenzelezz`	`in your code, you assign the sound file names to the sound variable, just like you do with the message`
`11:42.17`	`Garthnait`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4251`
`11:43.14`	`zenzelezz`	`almost have it now :) Just change the PlaySoundFile(soundA); to PlaySoundFile(sound);`
`11:43.28`	`zenzelezz`	`otherwise you'll always be playing the same sound file`
`11:43.34`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
`11:44.11`	`zenzelezz`	`oh, and in the second event (CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE), change "local msg" to "local msg, sound" like you did in the first one`
`11:45.03`	`Garthnait`	`i see ^^`
`11:49.06`	`Garthnait`	`hmm, i now get an error when i crit with AutoShot`
`11:49.16`	`zenzelezz`	`what does it say?`
`11:49.22`	`Garthnait`	`Usage: laySoundFile("soundfile")`
`11:49.28`	`Garthnait`	`Count: 3`
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`11:52.15`	`Garthnait`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4252`
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`11:52.49`	`nevcairiel`	`does it show the message?`
`11:52.57`	`Garthnait`	`yes`
`11:54.02`	`nevcairiel`	`if you encounter your "else" part, it would have a nil sound`
`11:54.15`	`Garthnait`	`what?`
`11:54.19`	`Garthnait`	`^^`
`11:55.22`	`nevcairiel`	`in your if clause, the else part for all conditions which didnt match anything before, you dont set any sound there, so it would end up with an empty sound`
`11:55.22`	`nevcairiel`	`and cause that error`
`11:56.15`	`Garthnait`	`do you mean at else msg = msgDefault`
`11:56.21`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`11:56.42`	`Garthnait`	`there should been no sound`
`11:57.02`	`Garthnait`	`i only wish to appear the message`
`11:57.20`	`nevcairiel`	`then you should change your playsound line to like "if sound then PlaySoundFile(sound) end"`
`11:57.46`	`Garthnait`	`okay, i try`
`11:59.19`	`Garthnait`	`yes many thanks`
`12:04.08`	`Garthnait`	`another question: can i print out where the damage come from in my msg?`
`12:07.22`	`zenzelezz`	`how do you mean?`
`12:08.33`	`Garthnait`	`in my msg thats print on event i like to implement the damage school like Wing CLip`
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`12:47.12`	`Saeris`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_getglobal says getglobal actually searches inside tables for keys matching the string argument it accepts. Initial testing shows that to be false, but it wasn't an extensive test, and I didn't test on the beta realms. Is this new functionality in the beta, or is the wiki just wrong?`
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`12:48.44`	`seebs`	`I am not understanding the question.`
`12:48.51`	`seebs`	`What test are you doing that shows that it isn't searching a table?`
`12:51.47`	`Saeris`	`This script: /script TestTable = { ["TestKey"] = "testValue"; }; PrintComma(getglobal("TestTable"), getglobal("TestKey"), getglobal("testValue")) prints the first value as expected, since "TestTable" actually exists on the global scope, but the two other values are nil. According to the wiki, getglobal should search inside TestTable for string keys matching its argument. I'm wondering if that's new functionality on the beta realms.`
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`12:54.29`	`fireglow`	`hello`
`12:57.42`	`zenzelezz`	`hi`
`13:03.34`	`seebs`	`No, no.`
`13:03.40`	`seebs`	`I don't think, anyway.`
`13:04.13`	`seebs`	`I think all they mean is "the way getglobal is implemented is that it searches a table". They aren't saying "every table will be searched".`
`13:04.36`	`seebs`	`Oh, I see the comment you're talking about. Hmm!`
`13:05.02`	`seebs`	`I don't think that comment is correct. It's never been my experience, anyway.`
`13:05.16`	`seebs`	`Maybe someone ran across a particular case where an object was duplicated into the global namespace, and got confused.`
`13:06.19`	`Saeris`	`Could be.`
`13:07.12`	`seebs`	`It wouldn't make SENSE for it to search tables. Maybe there are specific tables it searches.`
`13:07.49`	`seebs`	`<-- is too tired, really.`
`13:07.59`	`seebs`	`I would be asleep, except I have to feed a friend's cats in about an hour or so.`
`13:13.11`	`Industrial`	`ehy in an hour :p`
`13:13.14`	`Industrial`	`why*`
`13:13.27`	`Industrial`	`not like the cat doesnt want it now :p`
`13:13.36`	`zenzelezz`	`sounds like medicine or something`
`13:14.28`	`Garthnait`	`anybody knows how i do edit my projekt in curse-gaming?`
`13:15.03`	`Garthnait`	`ah, i've found`
`13:16.43`	`seebs`	`Yeah, pills.`
`13:16.54`	`seebs`	`Luckily, the cat that needs the pills is stupid enough to eat them with food, at regular intervals.`
`13:17.14`	`zenzelezz`	`hehehe`
`13:17.55`	`seebs`	`Anyway, I spent all night up wrestling with software.`
`13:18.05`	`seebs`	`I have the Cell Broadband Engine SDK loaded on a PS3. Fun ensues.`
`13:30.26`	`Kodewulf`	`Happy new year from Melbourne... :)`
`13:31.06`	`bleetah`	`happy new year from Tassie :D`
`13:37.14`	`zenzelezz`	`premature happy new year from Norway :-o`
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`13:44.00`	`Garthnait`	`hi amro`
`13:44.26`	`amro`	`hi`
`13:44.30`	`amro`	`got your addon working?`
`13:44.38`	`Garthnait`	`oh yes`
`13:44.50`	`Garthnait`	`i had some help from others to`
`13:45.29`	`Garthnait`	`but my brother has told me a bug. when he loads the addon his LaVendetta WSG FlagFrame doenst work`
`13:46.50`	`amro`	`can you paste it again?`
`13:46.54`	`Garthnait`	`mom`
`13:47.46`	`xsarpedon`	`I'm trying to call the function SolBG.test when I have it as a string, I tried getglobal("SolBG.test")(); but that doesn't seem to be working. If I were to call the function just test and call getglobal("test")(); that seems to work, is it possible to get the other working?`
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`13:48.03`	`Garthnait`	`here you are http://wowi.pastey.net/4253`
`13:48.12`	`Bouvi`	`Morning YAWN`
`13:48.27`	`amro`	`xsarpedon: the first is in a table`
`13:48.44`	`xsarpedon`	`Yes, but is there a way to call that with getglobal?`
`13:49.00`	`amro`	`try getglobal("SolBG")["test"]() though not sure if that work`
`13:49.06`	`amro`	`that is getglobal`
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`13:50.54`	`amro`	`Garthnait: I'm not familiar with that addon you mentioned, but you should prefix all globals you declare`
`13:51.07`	`amro`	`your frame name is global, perhaps that is conflicting with the other addon?`
`13:51.35`	`Garthnait`	`i dont understand`
`13:51.48`	`amro`	`try renaming your frame MyAddon_FrameName in your XML`
`13:52.21`	`Garthnait`	`thats GodLike`
`13:53.33`	`amro`	`what do you mean by his addon doesn't work? It doesn't load? or it doesn't show? or it pops an error?`
`13:53.47`	`Garthnait`	`it doesnt show`
`13:55.24`	`amro`	`and disabling your addon makes it show again?`
`13:55.30`	`Garthnait`	`yep`
`13:56.38`	`amro`	`can you give me a link to that addon?`
`13:57.24`	`xsarpedon`	`Amro: That worked, thanks alot.`
`13:57.53`	`amro`	`np`
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`13:58.20`	`Garthnait`	`http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/downloads/23581/`
`14:00.05`	`amro`	`Garthnait: paste your xml`
`14:00.51`	`Garthnait`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4254`
`14:01.56`	`amro`	`"!" in the frame name can't be a good idea`
`14:02.04`	`Garthnait`	`okay`
`14:02.27`	`zenzelezz`	`remember, people won't frame names, so no need to make them fancy :-p`
`14:02.33`	`zenzelezz`	`*won't see`
`14:03.51`	`amro`	`i don't think its a problem since it's a valid variable name and can still be accessed with getglobal/_G, but i'd avoid special characters in names`
`14:04.28`	`amro`	`in that sense, pretty much anything is valid, but might not be accessible without getglobal`
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`14:06.53`	`Garthnait`	`in 10 minutes i join WSG and i check it if its work`
`14:07.01`	`amro`	`i don't see how your mod is breaking it`
`14:07.20`	`amro`	`maybe im overlooking something`
`14:09.46`	`Garthnait`	`i hate the bg waittime`
`14:10.35`	`amro`	`you have to wait in your battlegroup?`
`14:10.46`	`Garthnait`	`no to get into`
`14:10.59`	`Garthnait`	`17 min for WSG ;(`
`14:11.03`	`amro`	`yeah i know`
`14:11.13`	`amro`	`maybe its AB weekend`
`14:11.15`	`Garthnait`	`my brother goes instant`
`14:11.28`	`Garthnait`	`no its wsg weekend`
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`14:17.06`	`Bouvi`	`Is there a genius on lol. I now have everything in my addon saving except two items. Anyone know much about saving variables?`
`14:17.39`	`Xolan[EU]`	`just what wowwiki tells me :p`
`14:18.21`	`zenzelezz`	`hm, what is up with this realm... everyone keeps asking where I'm from`
`14:18.26`	`zenzelezz`	`never happens on Silvermoon`
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`14:20.12`	`amro`	`Bouvi: first i'd check for typos`
`14:20.26`	`amro`	`You could have something like MyVarToSAve`
`14:20.33`	`Bouvi`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4255 here is a pasty has my variables not saving and the TOC and LUA if anyone can help. Everything else works just won't save the state of Autoloot and the Toggle Key. Checked for misspellings.`
`14:21.07`	`Bouvi`	`It saves the icon/text state and if you want to disable when in raid/party.`
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`14:25.29`	`amro`	`Bouvi: I can safely say i have no idea`
`14:25.34`	`Bouvi`	`:(`
`14:25.34`	`amro`	`where are you initializing those variables?`
`14:26.20`	`Bouvi`	`One under AutoPArty_On and the other in the SetBindKey`
`14:26.37`	`Garthnait`	`amro it wokrs fine`
`14:27.30`	`amro`	`Garthnait: you use the same setup as your brother?`
`14:27.54`	`Garthnait`	`not at all, some other addons bit vendetta and GodLike are the same`
`14:28.18`	`amro`	`then you can't know for sure`
`14:28.33`	`Garthnait`	`wnot my problem then ^^`
`14:28.39`	`Garthnait`	`-w`
`14:29.09`	`Nom-`	`Happy new year for those of you who it's already passed`
`14:29.34`	`amro`	`Bouvi: I'm not familiar with AceDB so i have no idea what's wrong`
`14:30.00`	`Bouvi`	`Oh wells maybe someone else can tell me later. :) Thanks for looking`
`14:31.50`	`amro`	`try asking on #wowace`
`14:42.21`	`Garthnait`	`so amro i've another question: i'd like the addon to give out in the "msg ..dmg " tag to put in the spell like AuotShot or Wing Clip`
`14:42.34`	`Garthnait`	`based on the attack`
`14:42.58`	`amro`	`you'd have something other than COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE`
`14:43.36`	`Garthnait`	`because COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE doesnt work`
`14:44.17`	`amro`	`because COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE doesn't give you the spell name`
`14:44.29`	`amro`	`CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE, and parse arg1`
`14:45.53`	`Garthnait`	`so? DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(msg ..arg1 ..dmg)`
`14:46.29`	`amro`	`no`
`14:46.57`	`amro`	`arg1 will be something like "Your Aimed Shot crits someunluckyguy for 2000"`
`14:47.11`	`amro`	`or "Your Frostbolt was resisted by luckyguy"`
`14:48.14`	`Garthnait`	`seems like this arg1, "Your (.+) crits (.+) for (%d+)`
`14:49.09`	`Garthnait`	`but you know what i wish to do? right?`
`14:49.22`	`amro`	`find the spell name`
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`14:49.49`	`Garthnait`	`i will in line: local msgA = "\|c00ff8000[GodLike] \|c0000BFFFYEAH! \|c00FF0000"`
`14:49.59`	`Garthnait`	`put the spell name wich crits`
`14:50.08`	`Saeris`	`random interjection: don't forgot to anchor the parsing string. so very much more efficient that way.`
`14:50.22`	`Garthnait`	`something like local msgA = "\|c00ff8000[GodLike] \|c0000BFFFYEAH! SpellName \|c00FF0000"`
`14:50.31`	`foxlit`	`Remember to terminate colors.`
`14:50.44`	`Garthnait`	`terminate?`
`14:50.46`	`foxlit`	`\|caarrggbb text \|r`
`14:50.55`	`Garthnait`	`but it works with out`
`14:52.22`	`foxlit`	`Nevertheless, consider it good tone to close every tag you open.`
`14:52.22`	`zenzelezz`	`the \|r doesn't hurt you`
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`14:52.41`	`amro`	`_, _, spellName, _, damage = string.find(arg1, "^Your (.+) crits (.+) for (%d+)")`
`14:52.48`	`amro`	`locals ofc`
`14:53.44`	`foxlit`	`Why capture what you are not going to use? :)`
`14:54.13`	`Garthnait`	`i'm cunfused ^^`
`14:54.34`	`amro`	`_, _, spellName, damage = string.find(arg1, "^Your (.+) crits .+ for (%d+)")`
`14:54.35`	`foxlit`	`local spellName, damage = string.match(arg1, "^Your (.+) crits .+ for (%d+)");`
`14:55.20`	`foxlit`	`Either works, really, just details.`
`14:55.54`	`amro`	`use foxlit's, cleaner`
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`14:58.11`	`Garthnait`	`so this: local spellName, damage = string.match(arg1, "^Your (.+) crits .+ for (%d+)"); i put to my constants, right?`
`15:00.20`	`amro`	`what do you mean?`
`15:00.48`	`Garthnait`	`im really confused, i dont know were i have to put the things you postet`
`15:01.24`	`amro`	`that line grabs the spellname and the damage from CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE's arg1`
`15:01.39`	`amro`	`so put it after you check for event=="CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE"`
`15:01.40`	`Garthnait`	`my text that appear should look like this: [GodLike] Yeah! SpellName 1250`
`15:02.09`	`amro`	`assuming you're outputting "[GodLike] Yeah! "..spellName..damage"`
`15:02.17`	`amro`	`assuming you're outputting "[GodLike] Yeah! "..spellName..damage`
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`15:03.48`	`Garthnait`	`my head is now completly smashed`
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`15:05.28`	`amro`	`assuming you're calling DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("[GodLike] Yeah! "..spellName..damage") after you match the spellname and damage`
`15:06.05`	`amro`	`by the way, you also need to check if you really did match something, so check if spellName ~= nil`
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`15:29.22`	`Xolan[EU]`	`hm, do you have to get a subscription to get the 1month free thingy?`
`15:30.29`	`Xolan[EU]`	`'cause my Visa Electron ain't supported, and all the stores are closed >.<`
`15:32.35`	`Xolan[EU]`	`bah I'll wait till the 2nd then`
`15:39.03`	`Insa`	`BT3Button1:SetAttribute("shift-unit","focus") , hwo can i make it work with keybindings too, instead of just clicks?`
`15:41.00`	`seebs`	`What 1 month free thingie?`
`15:41.15`	`Xolan[EU]`	`when you buy the game`
`15:41.37`	`Xolan[EU]`	`as I just bought my second account :P Do you have to add a subscription as well before you can take advatage of that first free month?`
`15:41.44`	`Insa`	`Yeah think so`
`15:42.10`	`Insa`	`If you add your creditcard it won't get billed though untill after your free month (i think:O)`
`15:42.28`	`Xolan[EU]`	`aye, but I have Visa Electron, but the norwegian ones aren't supported :\`
`15:42.31`	`Xolan[EU]`	`so I need a game card`
`15:42.38`	`Xolan[EU]`	`and the stores are closed`
`15:42.45`	`zenzelezz`	`my Visa card (Norwegian) works just fine`
`15:43.49`	`Xolan[EU]`	`read again: Electron ;)`
`15:44.15`	`zenzelezz`	`I'm sure that's supposed to mean something to me, but I still just hear "Visa"`
`15:45.40`	`Xolan[EU]`	`think I'll go get me an ordinary visa in not too long :)`
`15:46.23`	`Cide`	`Insa: check out SetBindingClick on wowwiki`
`15:47.24`	`Insa`	`Ok, i'll go check that out, thanks`
`15:47.52`	`Bouvi`	`Can anyone help with my Fubar Addon? http://wowi.pastey.net/4255 - Everything saves fine except the Toggle Key Setting and if AutoLoot is on or off. The icon hide saves, the text hide saves and the selection to turn it off if in party saves. However if I make changes to the AutoLoot and Toggle Key and open up the interface options and close it they save. I am at a loss.`
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`15:50.41`	`Insa`	`Ok, that was easier than i thought, thansk again Cide`
`15:50.54`	`Cide`	`you're welcome Insa`
`16:00.17`	`Garthnait`	`i've a problem: how du i localize the events for German version? http://wowi.pastey.net/4257`
`16:00.35`	`Garthnait`	`so that it works with UK and DE`
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`16:13.42`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`hmm let me take a look :P`
`16:14.59`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`well Garthnait there is a function that lets u see if its run nuder UK or DE`
`16:15.08`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`GetLocale() i thinl`
`16:15.21`	`Garthnait`	`yes if ( GetLocale() == "deDE" ) then`
`16:15.24`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`so depending on that u got choose your message`
`16:15.26`	`Garthnait`	`i've found`
`16:15.52`	`Garthnait`	`i now have to find the correct string Your (.+) crits (.+) for (%d+) in german`
`16:17.19`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`eh thats the harest part`
`16:17.34`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`hmm w8 i m9ight know a selution`
`16:17.59`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`in Globals.lua or string.lua are already predined strings`
`16:18.13`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i think they are depensibng on oyur wow instaltion`
`16:19.16`	`Garthnait`	`its har d to localize for german when self playing uk ^^`
`16:19.25`	`Mery`	`yeah look into GlbalStrings.lua`
`16:19.33`	`Mery`	`GlobalStrings.lua`
`16:19.46`	`Mery`	`(in your english version)`
`16:19.58`	`Mery`	`then use that string to generate your search string on the fly`
`16:20.13`	`Mery`	`and if should be localized for any wow version`
`16:20.25`	`Mery`	`and it*`
`16:24.26`	`fubi`	`whats the function to get someones target?`
`16:25.21`	`Mery`	`targets have a unittoken like "raid14target" for the target of raid memeber 14 then you can use that in like "unitName("raid14target"`
`16:25.27`	`Garthnait`	`mery in my GlobalString.lua only are english commands`
`16:25.32`	`Mery`	`yeah`
`16:25.57`	`Mery`	`but they are in a form of like "You crit %s for %d."`
`16:25.58`	`fubi`	`ah ok i see`
`16:26.19`	`Garthnait`	`like this: Your (.+) crits (.+) for (%d+)`
`16:26.25`	`Garthnait`	`but what'`
`16:26.27`	`Mery`	`then you replace %s with (.+) and %d with (%d+)`
`16:26.30`	`Garthnait`	`s the german ?`
`16:26.43`	`Garthnait`	`ah okay`
`16:26.45`	`Mery`	`and of course you do it on the variable`
`16:27.01`	`Mery`	`not hardcoded`
`16:27.23`	`Mery`	`with a gsub or whatever I always have to look that stuff up =)`
`16:27.36`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`Mery :p wut does a plain button need to display text ?`
`16:28.01`	`Garthnait`	`i dont undertand that things. Your (.+) crits (.+) for (%d+) is the english string but it doent work in german version, freids testet it`
`16:28.05`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`string.gsub(message,targetext,replacment)`
`16:29.00`	`Mery`	`you use COMBATHITCRITSELFOTHER`
`16:29.04`	`Mery`	`or whatever`
`16:29.11`	`Mery`	`and replace using lua functions`
`16:29.23`	`Mery`	`in german COMBATHITCRITSELFOTHER will be the german string`
`16:29.29`	`Garthnait`	`i'm using if event == "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS" then`
`16:29.46`	`Garthnait`	`and "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE"`
`16:30.20`	`Mery`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u im not sure I think :SetTextFontObject( and :SetText(`
`16:30.49`	`Mery`	`:SetDisabledFontObject( + :SetHighlightFontObject(`
`16:30.51`	`amro`	`Garthnait: you need to use a string from GlobalStrings.lua and use string.gsub on i tto replace for ex %d with (%d+) then pass that modifiedstring to string.match`
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`16:33.11`	`Mery`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/4260`
`16:33.22`	`Mery`	`but that may not work just so you getthe idea`
`16:35.51`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`dahm Mary...`
`16:36.00`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`no sh!t u fixed my problem`
`16:36.05`	`Mery`	`mEry mary was taken`
`16:36.45`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i was trying things like s = b:CreateFontString() but u fixed it gy simeply adding a font ;P`
`16:37.15`	`Mery`	`yw =P`
`16:38.21`	`Garthnait`	`Here is my .lue http://wowi.pastey.net/4261`
`16:38.41`	`Garthnait`	`in line 19 to 21 i have to define the german strings`
`16:38.52`	`fubi`	`well i had this idea to print out a message like "<playerX-classY> has targeted you!" whenever somenone targets you, guess that isnt really possible`
`16:40.29`	`Garthnait`	`well, i take a shower, see ya later (10 minutes)`
`16:41.00`	`zenzelezz`	`[Guild] [D...]: i was just in RFD with such a tosser ....can i invite him to guild just so he can be kicked?`
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`16:43.24`	`fubi`	`gnarth are you going to use unreal tournament sounds on this ? :>`
`16:52.25`	`Garthnait\|shower`	`fubi yes, but only the godlike ^^`
`16:52.29`	`Garthnait\|shower`	`re btw`
`16:55.33`	`Garthnait`	`so, back to my problem ^^`
`16:58.18`	`amro`	`Garthnait: if using GlobalStrings.lua`
`16:58.29`	`amro`	`you don't have to do that`
`16:58.44`	`Garthnait`	`how do i manage this?`
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`16:59.03`	`Bouvi`	`I feel so tainted.... What does it mean I could taint something? :)`
`16:59.36`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`16:59.41`	`cladhaire`	`is that a serious question?`
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`17:00.12`	`Bouvi`	`Actually yes lol. With a funny way of asking`
`17:00.18`	`amro`	`did you find the appropriate message in GlobalStrings.lua?`
`17:00.34`	`Garthnait`	`CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE = "Your Damage Spells";`
`17:01.23`	`Bouvi`	`I keep seeing people say something about tainted but not sure what it means.`
`17:01.29`	`amro`	`that doesn't help though`
`17:01.34`	`cladhaire`	`Basically, in the C implementatino of Lua that's used for WoW`
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`17:01.51`	`cladhaire`	`there's a system that allows secure code, and unsecure code to operate alongside each other`
`17:02.07`	`Garthnait`	`im really confused`
`17:02.12`	`cladhaire`	`protected (secure) code is able to do anythign it wants, at any given moment, hence why we can hide and show frames using the secuer templates.`
`17:02.21`	`Garthnait`	`fu deDE players ^^`
`17:02.26`	`Osagasu`	`Anyone else unable to connect to the Cosmos site? o.O`
`17:02.46`	`cladhaire`	`Any values that come from anywhere other than the edit box, are considered tainted.. thjose values, your nil, your 1, your "hello".. all of your functions, etc.`
`17:03.14`	`cladhaire`	`if a secure function is passed, or uses, or references a tainted value, than that codepath becomes tainted, and it is no longer considered secure code.`
`17:03.17`	`amro`	`Garthnait: Did you look around in GlobalStrings.lua for something like Your %s hits %n for %d?`
`17:03.36`	`cladhaire`	`there are a few exceptions, such as SetAttribute(), GetAttribute() securehookfunction() and securecall() (which we can't call)`
`17:03.46`	`cladhaire`	`they all clear the taint from your values before touching them`
`17:04.03`	`cladhaire`	`so an attribute can never be tainted, and a securehook will not taint the hooked function, etc.`
`17:04.13`	`cladhaire`	`because they use securecall() to do anything, which cleans your values.`
`17:04.18`	`cladhaire`	`that's really the long and short of it.`
`17:05.01`	`Garthnait`	`2(amro2): SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER = "Your %s crits %s for %d %s damage.";`
`17:05.15`	`amro`	`okay`
`17:05.19`	`Bouvi`	`WOW I think I just blew a fuse....`
`17:05.37`	`amro`	`Garthnait: I have to afk, i'll help you out in a minute`
`17:05.46`	`Garthnait`	`k`
`17:06.32`	`Bouvi`	`So basically in my 2nd addon I have ever done I can screw with the laws of nature and hope I don't taint. I like it has a certain poetic license.`
`17:08.09`	`Bouvi`	`How will I know if I taint something? Will it all go screwy or just crash?`
`17:08.21`	`cladhaire`	`You won't ever know if you've tainted somethign`
`17:08.22`	`cladhaire`	`BUT`
`17:08.45`	`cladhaire`	`a good test would be to set AUTO_LOOT_DEFAULT`
`17:08.46`	`cladhaire`	`to 0 or 1, along with using SetAutoLootDefault()`
`17:08.48`	`cladhaire`	`and then try to loot some things =)`
`17:08.53`	`cladhaire`	`if you get through that, then yuou SHOULD be okay`
`17:08.58`	`cladhaire`	`best to test until you get the loop popup as well`
`17:09.31`	`Bouvi`	`Here goes nothing lol`
`17:10.32`	`Bouvi`	`If noone hears from me again tell my family I love them....`
`17:10.34`	`cladhaire`	`just don't release it until you've done some specific testing =)`
`17:10.39`	`cladhaire`	`with that line of code, I mean.`
`17:10.56`	`Bouvi`	`kk`
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`17:12.30`	`Bouvi`	`OK it is holding the settings on a reloadui going to turn it on and autoloot till I puke`
`17:12.56`	`cladhaire`	`hahaha`
`17:13.09`	`cladhaire`	`you may want to open and save the interface ui once or twice`
`17:13.14`	`cladhaire`	`that'll help spread the taint if there is any =)`
`17:13.32`	`Bouvi`	`You mean the interface options?`
`17:14.32`	`cladhaire`	`yep`
`17:14.41`	`amro`	`Garthnait: do something like local pattern = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)")`
`17:14.46`	`cladhaire`	`since that codepath would get hit as well,`
`17:14.51`	`cladhaire`	`some portion of it.`
`17:14.56`	`cladhaire`	`"potentially" =)`
`17:15.08`	`amro`	`local pattern = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)", 1)`
`17:15.31`	`Bouvi`	`So how many things should I loot?`
`17:16.13`	`cladhaire`	`Bouvi: If it works 2-3 times, and the loot rolling box works (join a group, i can login if you need to)`
`17:16.15`	`cladhaire`	`then i'd say you're fine.`
`17:16.17`	`amro`	`then pattern = string.gsub(pattern, "%s", ".+", 1), then pattern = string.gsub(pattern, "%d %s", "(%d+)")`
`17:16.31`	`amro`	`Garthnait: then use pattern in your string.match`
`17:16.33`	`Bouvi`	`Kewl`
`17:16.55`	`Bouvi`	`So I have to find something to roll on then lol`
`17:18.01`	`cladhaire`	`i'm logging in anyway`
`17:18.03`	`cladhaire`	`what zonew are you in?`
`17:18.09`	`cladhaire`	`and alliance or horde? =)`
`17:18.22`	`Bouvi`	`Alliance and I was just killing outside IF`
`17:18.35`	`cladhaire`	`logging into cladhaire now.`
`17:18.41`	`cladhaire`	`shoot me an invite`
`17:18.45`	`Bouvi`	`On Bouvarella`
`17:19.04`	`Garthnait`	`2(amro2): an then i put the SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER into local _, _, spell, mob, dmg = string.find(arg1, ?`
`17:19.13`	`amro`	`no, you put pattern`
`17:19.22`	`Garthnait`	`??`
`17:19.41`	`amro`	`[18:14] <amro> Garthnait: do something like local pattern = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)")`
`17:19.50`	`Garthnait`	`oh i now, mom`
`17:19.56`	`amro`	`pattern is the er, pattern. SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER is not a pattern`
`17:20.04`	`Garthnait`	`local GODLIKE_SPELLHIT = string.gsub(SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER, "%s", "(.+)", 1)`
`17:20.11`	`Garthnait`	`?`
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`17:20.44`	`amro`	`then the other 2 calls to string.gsub`
`17:20.51`	`amro`	`[18:16] <amro> then pattern = string.gsub(pattern, "%s", ".+", 1), then pattern = string.gsub(pattern, "%d %s", "(%d+)")`
`17:21.24`	`Garthnait`	`hmm, i have to go off`
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`17:21.38`	`Garthnait`	`going to perants to sylversterparty`
`17:21.52`	`Garthnait`	`tommorow im back here ^^`
`17:21.55`	`zenzelezz`	`have fun`
`17:22.14`	`Garthnait`	`happy new year to all`
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`17:59.51`	`cladhaire`	`Bouvi: Hahah I ran that entire instance with Finkle's Skinner instead of Perditions`
`17:59.55`	`cladhaire`	`what the hell is wrong with me =0`
`18:00.27`	`cladhaire`	`wow.. nubtacular.`
`18:00.49`	`Bouvi`	`LOL`
`18:00.57`	`Bouvi`	`Smooth hahaha`
`18:01.37`	`Bouvi`	`I can't believe it finally all works and I did not end up tainted. Thanks a ton.`
`18:01.52`	`cladhaire`	`np`
`18:01.54`	`cladhaire`	`sorry it took so long`
`18:01.59`	`cladhaire`	`but half the time, testing is the best we can do`
`18:02.08`	`cladhaire`	`tho I think the API should be cleaned up =)`
`18:02.32`	`Bouvi`	`While waiting I added features and cleaned up the code some so was no wasted time :)`
`18:03.30`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Howdy all`
`18:05.06`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Any reliable way to check for poisons debuff eahc time it applied ?`
`18:05.23`	`cladhaire`	`which poison?`
`18:05.40`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Crippling Poison`
`18:05.53`	`cladhaire`	`nope`
`18:05.56`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`:\|`
`18:06.00`	`cladhaire`	`you can't get the duration of a debuff`
`18:06.04`	`cladhaire`	`and there's no message when you reapply it.`
`18:06.10`	`cladhaire`	`the best bet you have`
`18:06.11`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yeah`
`18:06.23`	`cladhaire`	`if it was a numbered poison, like deadly`
`18:06.24`	`cladhaire`	`you'd be all set`
`18:06.29`	`cladhaire`	`but crippling is 30 minutes, no?`
`18:06.37`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yeah since it does damage :P`
`18:06.51`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yeah`
`18:07.35`	`Bouvi`	`Woot new version of my addon uploaded. Thanks Clad :)`
`18:07.54`	`cladhaire`	`approved`
`18:08.02`	`Bouvi`	`Woot double thanks`
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`18:25.16`	`Tem`	`isn't there an event that fires when your poisons apply?`
`18:25.30`	`Tem`	`X is afflicted by Crippling poison?`
`18:27.45`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Hmm nah it's fires only once :/`
`18:27.59`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`is*`
`18:28.11`	`kergoth`	`there's a combat log event, and theres an event that fires for the blizzard combat text, but as he says, dont think either show when its arleady applied and being refreshed`
`18:28.12`	`kergoth`	`hate that`
`18:28.53`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Hmm I tried something that well, didn't work well, I tried to use PLAYER_AURA_CHANGED but well :P`
`18:31.13`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Yeah, it sucks but I also understand that almost any target information is omitted,`
`18:33.32`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Still, once the server processed the data, it can still send the combatlog a feedback`
`18:34.32`	`zenzelezz`	`in order for it to not send it there has to be some code logic going on, so it's a fairly safe bet it's intentional that they don't send more`
`18:35.59`	`Tem`	`Kirkburn, poke?`
`18:37.14`	`Kirkburn`	`Ciao`
`18:38.46`	`Tuller`	`bleh, showstates aren't going to work :P`
`18:38.54`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Ciao is an Italian word, speak english :)`
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`18:39.14`	`Kirkburn`	`Tem, ping`
`18:39.21`	`Kirkburn`	`(...bowling)`
`18:40.35`	`Kirkburn`	`VoidRaider\|VR, je spreche che desidererei.`
`18:40.58`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Hmm though previously reapplying Shackle wasn't reported to the CombatLog, maybe it's the same with Crippling poison`
`18:41.05`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`lol`
`18:41.23`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I can understand lil of it :P`
`18:43.51`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`though, I need to check if Shackle is being reported to the CombatLog now, however the new casting events covers it for me ... damn poisons :P`
`18:44.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Tem, you poke me then bugger off...`
`18:54.06`	`Thunder_Child`	`Poke-N-Run Violation: Tem, 1st offence`
`18:55.24`	`Tain`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`19:19.40`	`Tem`	`Kirkburn, sorry you still here?`
`19:19.51`	`Kirkburn`	`yoyo`
`19:20.18`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.fundular.com/Blog/4300DD5A-4B4F-495D-A007-A3E11341BC48.html`
`19:20.50`	`Thrae`	`503 service temporarily unavailable`
`19:20.51`	`Tem`	`Kirkburn, you're running Vista, right?`
`19:21.14`	`cladhaire`	`Thrae: haha i JUST viewed it.`
`19:21.47`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire broke tha internets!`
`19:22.02`	`cladhaire`	`http://duggmirror.com/gaming_news/Man_Sues_Over_Deleted_World_of_Warcraft_Character/`
`19:22.42`	`Thrae`	`Ah, probably digg effect killed it`
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`19:23.17`	`Kirkburn`	`Tem, not atm`
`19:23.24`	`Kirkburn`	`My Vista PC is over the other side of the UK :(`
`19:24.13`	`Thrae`	`Hey if I had the money, and as much time invested as he did, I'd sue too. Though maybe if I had Tier 4/5 instead of Tier 2...`
`19:24.26`	`cladhaire`	`that's a LOT of playtime`
`19:24.30`	`cladhaire`	`that's half of the time over the past two years`
`19:24.55`	`Thrae`	`The US Justice system is setup in favour of civil suits rather then criminal prosecution. Civil suits are normally a LOT more effective.`
`19:25.41`	`Tain`	`I don't really believe that guy's story.`
`19:25.44`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: He says "286 days of playtime", which could mean 286 days he's played the character at X amount of hours per day.`
`19:25.50`	`cladhaire`	`*shake8`
`19:25.57`	`cladhaire`	`when someone refers to playtime, they mean the /played command`
`19:26.00`	`cladhaire`	`in every instance i've ever found =)`
`19:26.08`	`cladhaire`	`and he says he doesn't care about money, hence the playtime =)`
`19:26.13`	`cladhaire`	`otherwise my playtime is 720 days =)`
`19:26.23`	`kergoth`	`Tem, VoidRaider\|VR: the 'COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE' is fired with the first argument of 'ENCHANTMENT_ADDED' and the second argument of the name of the poison whenever you apply a poison, even if you apply crippling a second time to a weapon that already has it.`
`19:26.31`	`kergoth`	`just tested it`
`19:26.36`	`Thrae`	`'ell moost peeple dun haev tha purfect gramar!`
`19:26.51`	`kergoth`	`s/is f/event is f/`
`19:28.40`	`Thrae`	`I mean, 6,000 hours to get only Tier 2?`
`19:29.10`	`Thrae`	`Although he WAS Grand Marshall, and that did used to take an insane amount of time per day...`
`19:29.33`	`zenzelezz`	`he did say he also has 3 T3`
`19:29.36`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`19:29.49`	`Thrae`	`Still`
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`19:30.07`	`cladhaire`	`why?`
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`19:30.13`	`cladhaire`	`i've spent tons of time doing "nothing"in game`
`19:30.33`	`Thrae`	`You probably have 1000 hours of /console reloadui ;)`
`19:30.55`	`cladhaire`	`i'd have to check ALL of my characters`
`19:30.58`	`cladhaire`	`i dev everywhere`
`19:30.59`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`19:31.19`	`Tain`	`Well there's only been about what.. 750 days or so since the launch of WoW, so that's really only playing about 8 hours a day, every day, since retail launch.`
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`19:39.46`	`foxlit`	`.`
`19:43.43`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`kergoth ? have you checked it then ? I addd that event to my TODO list few days ago, and I haven't tested it yet, it's responding for poisons ? Oo :P`
`19:44.06`	`zenzelezz`	`<kergoth> just tested it`
`19:44.11`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`ahhh!`
`19:44.12`	`zenzelezz`	`I don't know about you, but it would seem like he did`
`19:44.22`	`zenzelezz`	`and he only said that like... the very next line`
`19:44.37`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`ah yeah`
`19:44.54`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`the only thing I saw was <kergoth> Tem, VoidRaider\|VR: the 'COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE'`
`19:44.55`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`lol`
`19:45.17`	`*** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Happy New Year's Eve! \| Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ \| Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) \| TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 \| In case of flood, proceed uphill. In case of flash flood, proceed uphill quickly.`
`19:45.24`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Thanks for taking the time mate :)`
`19:45.40`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`WoW great! :P`
`19:47.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`Cairenn, are you worried about flooding?`
`19:47.45`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`god bless undo functionality! I just deleted all the handlers that handled procs :P`
`19:48.47`	`Tem`	`Kirkburn, I was just wondering how WoW did on vista`
`19:48.53`	`Tem`	`if there was anything I should be wary of`
`19:49.01`	`Kirkburn`	`Nope, works perfectly :)`
`19:49.10`	`Kirkburn`	`Just a matter of drivers atm`
`19:49.20`	`Kirkburn`	`(but I've had no problem with them)`
`19:50.05`	`Cairenn`	`Thunder_Child: it was just a silly thing, I do that some times`
`19:50.23`	`Thunder_Child`	`you?....never.....`
`19:51.05`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`imp, I dunno Vista handles the GUI through the GPU now, might be better to some extends, but I haven't check the implications :P`
`19:51.12`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`imo*`
`19:51.44`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Is it better in gaming performance terms ?`
`19:55.46`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Well actually if you have a video card that supports it :D`
`19:56.08`	`amro`	`I don't like the idea of DX10`
`19:56.43`	`amro`	`either force game developers to code for DX10 and DX9 or force people to buy vista.`
`19:57.08`	`foxlit`	`Vista is the Future.`
`19:57.29`	`amro`	`get me a time machine then, im going back to the stone age`
`19:57.33`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Well, I guess technology need to change, you can't stand on the same age :P`
`19:57.48`	`foxlit`	`What do you need a time machine for? Find a linux dist, you're all set.`
`19:57.58`	`amro`	`i use linux`
`19:58.07`	`amro`	`but if vista really is the future, id rather go back to the stone age`
`19:58.15`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha :D`
`20:01.29`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`btw, I heard Java handles the backward compatibility for the developer ? is it true ?`
`20:03.19`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`So if I used to write my code on X Java framework it guaranty to work for the next framework version too ?`
`20:03.42`	`amro`	`I don't know`
`20:04.04`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Interesting :)`
`20:04.55`	`amro`	`Vista Home Basic: Similar to Windows XP Home Edition, Home Basic is intended for budget users not requiring advanced media support for home use. The Windows Aero theme with translucent effects will not be included with this edition. 64-bit Home Basic will support up to 8 GB of physical memory, and will be supported until 2012.`
`20:05.31`	`amro`	`why would anyone buy that?`
`20:05.53`	`axxo`	`budget users, its right there`
`20:05.55`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I use C# for Web and sometimes applications, depends on the time and need, I need to have or do some comparison between these two`
`20:06.31`	`amro`	`$200 for an under the hood upgrade?`
`20:06.42`	`amro`	`or $100`
`20:07.17`	`amro`	`why not just stick with XP then?`
`20:07.40`	`amro`	`or better yet, get an OS that doesn't cost in $100-$200`
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`20:07.46`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I won't change for Vista until its first release of SP1 so there's time :)`
`20:07.53`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`change to*`
`20:08.07`	`amro`	`""Home Basic N" and "Business N" editions of Windows Vista will additionally be available in the European Union. These editions will ship without Windows Media Player, according to the EU sanctions brought against Microsoft for violating anti-trust laws."`
`20:08.08`	`amro`	`lol`
`20:08.29`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha`
`20:10.12`	`amro`	`"designed to be user-friendly, the new packaging is a small, hard, plastic container that [will] protect the software inside for life-long use". <- except that you're not supposed to go around installing vista on all your comps`
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`20:10.38`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`What IDE are you using on linux ?`
`20:11.21`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`for C++ for example ?`
`20:12.11`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I use Visual Studio on Widnows, so what IDE's available for Linux, never tried or used linux :)`
`20:12.19`	`amro`	`i tried KDevelop and Code::Blocks, but in the end i just decided to use Kate (text editor)`
`20:13.04`	`amro`	`it has an embedded terminal window that i can use to compile and run`
`20:13.39`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I should try someday installing it, just to get the basics and stuff, was MS developer for like 10 years or something, used their technology I need a change :P`
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`20:14.02`	`amro`	`you'll enjoy not having 20 deprecated arguments in function calls`
`20:14.16`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`:P`
`20:14.35`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Where can I download, linux I have no clue haha`
`20:14.48`	`zenzelezz`	`on the other hand, I find it easier to find documentation for Windows (MSDN Library actually works well)`
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`20:15.54`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Yeah, that's true, that's one of the bonuses, but it comes with a huge price`
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`20:16.05`	`amro`	`http://www.kubuntu.com`
`20:16.55`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`MSSQL Server, Visual Studio, and much more things I use and it costs ALOT!`
`20:17.00`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Thanks mate :)`
`20:17.04`	`amro`	`i was about to say that`
`20:17.16`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`:P`
`20:17.17`	`amro`	`you have to pay over $3000`
`20:17.34`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I actually wrote a whole lib for C# for VS2005 to handle MySQL`
`20:17.52`	`amro`	`C# is nice, but IMO it's just a replacement for VB`
`20:17.53`	`zenzelezz`	`VC++ standard edition was cheap enough, and then I just downloaded the free Pro compiler`
`20:18.06`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I mean wtf ... they had Oracle, and it well nedeed busyness but no, not MySQL :P`
`20:18.25`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Yeah but I work with like 4 different language`
`20:18.29`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I can't use only C++`
`20:18.46`	`amro`	`zenzelezz: standard edition lacks some features`
`20:19.05`	`zenzelezz`	`amro: nothing big enough for me to miss it; especially when I have the pro compiler`
`20:19.17`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`More then 4, C++, C#, SQL (Stored Procedures), and MASM too, though I use WinASM`
`20:20.58`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`And Visual Studio has its advantages, I need to check linux to depth so I can have an objective opinion about it`
`20:22.39`	`amro`	`vs does have advantages`
`20:22.53`	`zenzelezz`	`one thing I love is the debugger`
`20:23.00`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I also used Visual Studio for JASS if anyone know it, the scripting language Blizzard uses for their WC3 maps and I use VS2005 for LUA too :P`
`20:24.14`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`So it's alot of languages and VS has plugins flexibility and such so it's awesome :)`
`20:25.30`	`amro`	`JASS...`
`20:25.33`	`amro`	`i hate that crap`
`20:25.40`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha`
`20:25.44`	`Tain`	`The last I checked, which was probably a year ago, I couldn't get a Lua plugin working for VS2005.`
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`20:25.54`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`True`
`20:26.21`	`amro`	`why would you fire up vs for lua? you don't need any of its features`
`20:26.33`	`Tain`	`Being used to VS for other things.`
`20:26.37`	`foxlit`	`Wouldn't mind intellisense`
`20:26.44`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`The VS2005 Plugin that exists works but not god as it should, I need to find time and I might build one or continue the one that exists`
`20:26.53`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`good*`
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`20:27.33`	`amro`	`what's strange, i don't miss intellisense when using kate (c::b has something similar)`
`20:28.19`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`it has bugs such as one in comments --[[ ]]-- sometimes the page drawn in green, annoying :\|`
`20:28.45`	`Tain`	`A lot of editors don't handle Lua block comments right.`
`20:28.48`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`intellisense makes us lazy haha`
`20:29.01`	`Tain`	`Well, it makes you make less typos at the same time.`
`20:29.08`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`true ^^`
`20:29.26`	`Tuller_`	`I make more typos with auto complete stuff, but probably because I never use it`
`20:29.51`	`Tain`	`Then you're not making typos with auto complete stuff.`
`20:30.29`	`zenzelezz`	`I use auto complete mostly for long names, just because it's much faster`
`20:30.33`	`zenzelezz`	`not to typo less`
`20:30.45`	`amro`	`fixing a typo is just a few seconds`
`20:31.06`	`Tain`	`Sure, when you see it as it is made.`
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`20:31.22`	`amro`	`i meant after you get the error at compile-time`
`20:31.56`	`Tain`	`Yeah but that's more seconds to stop, look at the error, go to the line, read it, hope you see the typo obviously, etc.`
`20:32.14`	`Tain`	`Of course it's a second to fix, but it can cause five, ten or more seconds overall.`
`20:32.50`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`in LUA if a variable has no refrence or something it doesn't give you error it declare it globally, well as far as I know`
`20:33.17`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`So if you had a typo it doesn't give you an error`
`20:33.39`	`amro`	`vs has autocomplete for lua?`
`20:33.47`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`hmm no`
`20:33.56`	`amro`	`okay then`
`20:33.59`	`Tain`	`Not built in.`
`20:34.44`	`Tain`	`There's been work on plugins to do it, the one I looked at only worked with VS 2003 I think, well an earlier version than VS2005`
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`20:35.49`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`2003 had a bug too, funny bug actually when you ran a search it suddenly crashes the IDE lol`
`20:35.49`	`amro`	`typos aren't a huge problem anyway. unless you're coding something for a space shuttle`
`20:36.19`	`amro`	`only think i really liked in vs was the debugger`
`20:36.40`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I mean when you had that LUA plugin installed it crashed the IDE, weird :\|`
`20:36.42`	`amro`	`but it had some annoyances too, problems with quickwatch and other stuff`
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`20:38.17`	`amro`	`not to mention sometimes when i click the button to go to wherever the error happen, it sends me somewhere in the exe's assembly`
`20:38.36`	`Tain`	`I'd never suggest someone go out of their way to use VS for Lua, but if you're already used to VS it's nice to keep using it rather than switch to other editors.`
`20:39.59`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`What editor would you suggest instead ?`
`20:40.16`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`That if I want to change ?`
`20:40.22`	`zenzelezz`	`for lua?`
`20:40.26`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yup`
`20:40.35`	`Asheyla`	`i just use notepad++ myself`
`20:40.42`	`Tain`	`SciTE`
`20:40.44`	`zenzelezz`	`I just use ConTEXT... nothing fancy about it, but it does what I want, and can highlight both Lua and XML`
`20:40.46`	`amro`	`id suggest scite or notepad++`
`20:41.00`	`haste`	`vim <3`
`20:41.04`	`Asheyla`	`npp does hightlighting for tons of langs =]`
`20:41.21`	`Tuller_`	`noatepad is scite, just with a slightly better GUI :P`
`20:41.28`	`Asheyla`	`heh`
`20:41.29`	`Tuller_`	`err notepad`
`20:41.39`	`Tuller_`	`its a little iffy on XML sometimes`
`20:41.41`	`Asheyla`	`<- never heard of it`
`20:41.43`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Hmm SciTe doesn't have a (proecjt) solution explorer that's why I dropped the idea of using it`
`20:41.59`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`project*`
`20:42.03`	`Tain`	`Well Notepad++'s GUI is more GUI-fied.`
`20:42.03`	`Asheyla`	`npp only bugs xml once for me`
`20:42.07`	`Tain`	`Which is why I prefer SciTE. :)`
`20:42.21`	`amro`	`scite is lighter`
`20:42.22`	`Asheyla`	`and thats when i do <Script file="blah"/>`
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`20:42.38`	`amro`	`from what i remember of npp it has tons of buttons in the toolbar`
`20:42.39`	`Asheyla`	`if i make it <Script file="blah"></Scrips> it's fine`
`20:42.48`	`Tuller_`	`the only reason I don't use notepad++ is that I'm too lazy to sit down and change the coloring`
`20:42.53`	`Asheyla`	`heh`
`20:42.59`	`amro`	`oh not to mention`
`20:43.00`	`Asheyla`	`i just get used to it`
`20:43.06`	`amro`	`the default font for comments is ugly`
`20:43.11`	`amro`	`but i changed it`
`20:43.24`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`imo, VS2005 has the best XML editor and support I know :)`
`20:44.00`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Can you add a solution explorer for SciTE ?`
`20:44.02`	`Tain`	`I used to use XMLSpy because I liked being able to validate against WoW's UI.XSD.`
`20:44.27`	`amro`	`SciTE can save sessions`
`20:44.28`	`Tain`	`Sure, Windows Explorer is my solution explorer.`
`20:44.34`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha`
`20:44.38`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`:D`
`20:44.46`	`amro`	`tabs are my solution explorer`
`20:44.47`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Easy solutions :P`
`20:45.35`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`What about that BLUA editor I don't really remember its name so :P`
`20:46.02`	`amro`	`I haven't used it in awhile so it's probably better than the version i had`
`20:46.29`	`Tain`	`I never saw that bLua get updated so I stopped checking a long time ago.`
`20:46.38`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`ahh :P`
`20:48.03`	`Tuller_`	`the real question is, what is a solution explorer :P`
`20:48.07`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Damn if we only had free time and get paid monthly :)`
`20:49.14`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Well if you used Visual Studio you should know, however it shows you your projects files in one window through the IDE :)`
`20:51.08`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`You can define one solution to handle few projects and I find it handy :)`
`20:51.09`	`amro`	`Kate has that, except it doesn't group them in folders`
`20:51.42`	`Tuller_`	`so, its a list of files you have open?`
`20:51.59`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`My Addon for example uses like 9 folders haha`
`20:52.28`	`amro`	`not files you have open, files in your project`
`20:52.48`	`amro`	`which aren't always open`
`20:53.21`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Similar to directories I guess :)`
`20:53.21`	`amro`	`vs has very simple syntax highlighting though`
`20:53.22`	`Tuller_`	`so its a shorthand for not having the directory where you keep all your stuff at open :P`
`20:53.28`	`amro`	`at least for c++`
`20:53.36`	`amro`	`yeah`
`20:54.02`	`amro`	`for c++ and other languages, each file in the project also has some options (compile or not, store as resource, etc)`
`20:54.11`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`yeah`
`20:54.48`	`amro`	`all IDEs have that though`
`20:55.04`	`zenzelezz`	`not all... just most good ones`
`20:55.21`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`not only bah in VS2005 the solution explorer is not that simple you can have many types of files and each has its own properties, XSD files, XML, text, source ... etc`
`20:55.42`	`Tain`	`Yeah there's just not as much benefit to it with WoW addons.`
`20:55.50`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Yup :)`
`20:55.58`	`Tain`	`Everything's plain text, nothing's compiled, most addons are in a single folder anyway, etc.`
`20:55.58`	`amro`	`zenzeless: all IDEs ive used do`
`20:57.05`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Well you can expand it to handle WoW addons in a way it will make alot of things easier but it takes alot of time, learning the IDE and its extensibility interfaces, API takes so much time :\|`
`20:57.35`	`AnduinLothar`	`[Cu]Werik: ping`
`20:57.40`	`amro`	`that's the case with all microsoft APIs ive used`
`20:57.53`	`[Cu]Werik`	`I'm here`
`20:58.07`	`AnduinLothar`	`any idea why a deleted addon would still show up in my addons list?`
`20:58.29`	`[Cu]Werik`	`No idea`
`20:58.36`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Which one?`
`20:58.54`	`AnduinLothar`	`IsMounted & IsCasting, possibly more`
`20:58.59`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`O_o`
`20:59.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`try deleting their SVs too?`
`20:59.13`	`AnduinLothar`	`no, on curse`
`20:59.15`	`Tuller_`	`hrm, yeah Infield is still showing up for me, and I deleted it off of curse a couple of days ago`
`20:59.17`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`oh`
`20:59.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`ohohoh`
`20:59.22`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`btw if we're speaking about extensibility I like Firefox in that approach they use JS for their extensibility language while with explorer you need C++ where by nature it's much more extensible`
`20:59.46`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that's what i get for irc channel surfing`
`20:59.54`	`[Cu]Werik`	`hm`
`21:00.01`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Well explorer has no extensibility support though :P`
`21:00.06`	`Tain`	`I deleted curse-gaming's SVs but it's still there`
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`21:01.03`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Yeah I see why it shows up`
`21:01.10`	`[Cu]Werik`	`It's still in the database`
`21:02.06`	`AnduinLothar`	`hmm`
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`21:02.16`	`AnduinLothar`	`just a link delete, eh?`
`21:02.33`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`btw, does Linux has Hebrew support ? I still write in hebrew haha :)`
`21:03.28`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Not the OS language itself but does it support hebrew ? :P`
`21:03.29`	`amro`	`kubuntu has support for languages ive never even heard of`
`21:03.35`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`haha`
`21:03.48`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Well I'll try :)`
`21:03.49`	`amro`	`it supports and and is translated in it. though im not 100% sure its likely to be the case`
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`21:04.10`	`amro`	`nice thing about kubuntu 6.10 is you can surf the net while it installs`
`21:04.43`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`is kubuntu diffeent from ubuntu ?`
`21:04.48`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`I use English mainly but you, sometimes you write in notepad and you want to write in your own language :)`
`21:04.49`	`haste`	`you can do that with all the ubuntu installs`
`21:05.12`	`amro`	`yeah`
`21:05.21`	`haste`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u: It runs KDE instead of GNOME afaik`
`21:05.27`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Well I guess I'll have to check :)`
`21:05.33`	`Tain`	`Pretty sure you can type in Klingon if you want to, so I doubt Hebrew is a stretch.`
`21:05.34`	`amro`	`yeah`
`21:05.40`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`ah oke :P i never under stood that part of linus anyway`
`21:05.57`	`amro`	`xubuntu runs Xfce`
`21:06.07`	`VoidRaider\|VR`	`Thanks for the info guys :)`
`21:06.09`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i tryed linux on vmware and i liked it but i was to scared todo a full format of my HD :P`
`21:06.18`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`cant offoer to loose my precius winblows`
`21:06.24`	`amro`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u: you can resize your partition`
`21:06.29`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`'`
`21:06.33`	`[Cu]Werik`	`AnduinLothar: I'm not sure. I dont want to remove the addon because there is probably a reason for it staying in the db, let's hope the guys will find the solution for it and fix it`
`21:06.35`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i head that later indeed :P`
`21:06.44`	`VoidRaider\|afk`	`going back to coding, ttyl :)`
`21:06.47`	`AnduinLothar`	`k thc werik`
`21:06.50`	`amro`	`also now the NTFS drivers are pretty stable`
`21:06.52`	`AnduinLothar`	`thx*`
`21:06.54`	`amro`	`later VoidRaider\|afk`
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`21:07.12`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`but amro will it be able to select windows / or lunix on the same fysical HD only different partitions ?`
`21:07.19`	`amro`	`yeah`
`21:07.29`	`amro`	`it installs GRUB boot loader by default`
`21:07.45`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`hmm might not be that bad to try then..`
`21:08.23`	`amro`	`it has a GUI installer, it actually boots into ubuntu first, smoothest installs i've ever done`
`21:08.35`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`i mostl never realy trusted that 2nd partition wut if it goes wrong and i looose my precial winblows :9`
`21:09.06`	`zenzelezz`	`...`
`21:09.06`	`Tain`	`So back up your Windows.`
`21:09.06`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`^^cloned ftw`
`21:09.16`	`Tain`	`It shouldn't take you more than a couple of hours to rebuild a Windows system from scratch and get everything you want up and running.`
`21:09.16`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`lol i can backup 150gb or junk :P`
`21:09.18`	`MentalPower\|Your`	`aww, too long for YourFace`
`21:09.18`	`amro`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u: you don't have to worry, just resize`
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`21:24.03`	`bleetah`	`anyone from wowace.com floating about?`
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`21:24.59`	`bleetah`	`i'm wondering why buggrabber is raping swatter -> http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20280 http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/20282`
`21:25.31`	`bleetah`	`(I'm not usually one to use that word, but there's no other adjective to describe buggrabber's code there)`
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`21:26.27`	`bleetah`	`calling Swatter.endale = false would be a lot better than turning everything related to swatter to nil`
`21:26.32`	`bleetah`	`*enable`
`21:27.33`	`Shane__`	`I have a bug in my addon that I have not been able to fix. My addon has a "/myadd config" that scales / changes the number of action bar buttons that are visable to the user. When I run /myaddon config all buttons are "visable" when I close the window I want only the active buttons to be visable`
`21:27.36`	`Cairenn`	`Bouvi: re the PM you sent me on WoWI: it wasn't me`
`21:27.51`	`Bouvi`	`I know lol it was Cladhaire :)`
`21:27.57`	`Bouvi`	`We got it all working :)`
`21:28.03`	`Cairenn`	`k`
`21:28.09`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`21:28.29`	`Shane__`	`If I move any spells around or call my ButtonUpdate() function it fixes it.. but I can't get it to hidegrid on config window close`
`21:28.31`	`Bouvi`	`I was really tired that night and All I could remember was the C`
`21:28.34`	`Cairenn`	`it's amusing, people get clad & I mixed up all the time, and I have no idea why`
`21:28.40`	`Cairenn`	`we don't look anything alike`
`21:28.43`	`cladhaire`	`thats true`
`21:28.46`	`cladhaire`	`your ass is spectacular`
`21:28.48`	`cladhaire`	`mine, not so much`
`21:28.52`	`Cairenn`	`lol`
`21:29.06`	`Bouvi`	`All I remember was the C lol`
`21:29.14`	`Cairenn`	`you've got nice pecs though`
`21:29.43`	`Bouvi`	`You too want a room? I am flexible if that counts http://www.masterfritts.com lol`
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`21:37.41`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`does any1 kno the fucntion to set the selected member of a drop odwn menu ?`
`21:38.15`	`\|FF\|Im2good4u`	`nm got it`
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`21:44.30`	`sylvanaar`	`[31 15:29] <cladhaire> thats true`
`21:44.30`	`sylvanaar`	`[31 15:29] <cladhaire> your ass is spectacular`
`21:44.30`	`sylvanaar`	`[31 15:29] <cladhaire> mine, not so much`
`21:44.46`	`sylvanaar`	`i have been missing the good stuff`
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`21:48.11`	`Cide`	`cairenn's ass? that's a wowi FA/admin-only bonus`
`21:48.36`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`21:51.51`	`Bleeter`	`Cide: you're safe from me re: lack of coffee for a while... I keep losing it every time I see that damned wowace code ;)`
`21:52.40`	`Cide`	`(psst. I'm hiding from Cairenn's wrath)`
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`21:53.40`	`Cide`	`I think I dodged her!`
`21:55.52`	`VoidRaider\|afk`	`Mybe, Cide but she's in front of you! take care!`
`21:56.03`	`Cide`	`uh ohhhh`
`21:56.12`	`VoidRaider\|afk`	`haha :P`
`22:07.17`	`tc3driver`	`LIES`
`22:07.27`	`tc3driver`	`Cairenn, how many fingers am I holding up`
`22:07.59`	`Cide`	`11`
`22:08.11`	`tc3driver`	`O_O`
`22:08.14`	`Cide`	`right? wrong?`
`22:08.17`	`tc3driver`	`I am no mutant :P`
`22:08.19`	`Cide`	`how many were you holding up?!`
`22:08.22`	`tc3driver`	`so no wrong`
`22:08.34`	`tc3driver`	`3`
`22:08.38`	`Cide`	`see, I was talking in binary`
`22:08.43`	`Cide`	`so I was right`
`22:08.49`	`tc3driver`	`ROFL`
`22:09.22`	`tc3driver`	`how many not Cide`
`22:09.24`	`tc3driver`	`:P`
`22:09.33`	`tc3driver`	`err =t +w`
`22:09.34`	`Cide`	`1`
`22:09.43`	`tc3driver`	`Fail!`
`22:09.44`	`Cide`	`err`
`22:09.46`	`Cide`	`10 I mean`
`22:09.49`	`tc3driver`	`fail`
`22:09.53`	`Cide`	`how many?`
`22:09.55`	`tc3driver`	`5`
`22:09.57`	`foxlit`	`meh`
`22:09.59`	`Cide`	`that was base 5`
`22:10.01`	`foxlit`	`10 is a safe bet.`
`22:10.05`	`Cide`	`;)`
`22:10.17`	`tc3driver`	`ROFL`
`22:10.27`	`Cide`	`so is 11 actually, except for when 1 is chosen`
`22:10.48`	`tc3driver`	`this is like hanging in a linux chan, without the overly puffed egos XD`
`22:11.44`	`Gngsk`	`plenty of egos`
`22:12.16`	`Cairenn`	`oh,. there are egos in here by times, no fear`
`22:12.25`	`tc3driver`	`yeah, but in a linux chan... there is always some argument over distro/editor/language/gui`
`22:12.56`	`End`	`vi wins!`
`22:13.01`	`End`	`jk`
`22:13.07`	`tc3driver`	`yes 6 FTW!`
`22:19.49`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`My parents are currently discussing with friends: Where to put the crease in a pair of underpants when ironing them.`
`22:22.35`	`Cairenn`	`o.O`
`22:22.45`	`amro`	`That's a very important subject.`
`22:23.18`	`amro`	`Something that might be discussed in a Seinfeld episode.`
`22:26.13`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`And they thought I wouldn't tell anyone ... :P`
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`22:49.59`	`Tem`	`lol, Kirk`
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`22:56.12`	`amro`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z60-erywKVs <- that's why he died`
`22:56.59`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol`
`22:57.13`	`cladhaire`	`hehehe`
`22:57.25`	`\|Shadow\|`	`sigh`
`22:57.45`	`\|Shadow\|`	`my common.mpq failed at life, and wow is now seriously damaged and needs to revert back to a previous verison which means i have to download the patch again`
`22:57.47`	`\|Shadow\|`	`wow fails at life.`
`22:58.59`	`haste`	`no, it's only you who are doing it wrong :)`
`22:59.00`	`cladhaire`	`life's not for everyone.. maybe you should try something else?`
`22:59.01`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`22:59.08`	`cladhaire`	`<3 \|Shadow\|`
`22:59.12`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol <3 :P`
`22:59.23`	`\|Shadow\|`	`haste was i doing something wrong walking through durotar? :<`
`22:59.34`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i was just wandering in durotar and i got the error, and now i get the error every time i login xD`
`22:59.47`	`haste`	`It was a trap made by the alliance!`
`23:00.19`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:o`
`23:00.30`	`\|Shadow\|`	`zomg`
`23:00.46`	`\|Shadow\|`	`Blizzard Repair has failed to revert to an earlier version. Please delete patch.mpq and try again.`
`23:01.05`	`\|Shadow\|`	`wheres patch.mpq?`
`23:01.29`	`amro`	`imagine having to install release version, then having to download 1.0-2.0 (if you haven't archived the patches)`
`23:01.35`	`amro`	`it should be in /data`
`23:01.59`	`\|Shadow\|`	`its not :O`
`23:02.04`	`amro`	`they changed it`
`23:02.08`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i only see common.mpq`
`23:02.08`	`amro`	`i think there's another folder in there`
`23:02.23`	`amro`	`they changed them for localization or something`
`23:02.30`	`amro`	`you sure there are no folders in there?`
`23:02.50`	`amro`	`oh its been 2007 for 2 minutes here. woop-dee-do.`
`23:03.03`	`\|Shadow\|`	`amro yea theres one folder, that doesn't seem to contain it`
`23:03.04`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol`
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`23:07.11`	`Mery`	`Happy new year! (I know most have to wait another 6+ hours but anyway) :)`
`23:07.19`	`\|Shadow\|`	`\o/`
`23:07.56`	`tc3driver`	`9 hours until here XD`
`23:08.44`	`VoidRaider\|afk`	`Happy new year everyone :)`
`23:09.09`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:)`
`23:13.07`	`\|Shadow\|`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=510962137889329287&q=got+talent`
`23:13.09`	`\|Shadow\|`	`Yodel power!`
`23:14.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`that is some yodeling there yep`
`23:14.50`	`\|Shadow\|`	`hmm, what should i do now?`
`23:14.59`	`\|Shadow\|`	`my wow crashes every time i login saying that common.mpq is currupt`
`23:15.17`	`\|Shadow\|`	`i run the repair, and it says i need to delete patch.mpq and try again, i searched my entire wow folder, there is no patch.mpq.`
`23:15.34`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`save your wtf and interface folder and reinstall most likely :x`
`23:15.53`	`\|Shadow\|`	`good idea :P`
`23:17.54`	`ckknight`	`\|Shadow\|: look in your data folder`
`23:20.12`	`\|Shadow\|`	`ckknight i did that, and i searched C:\program files\world of warcraft for patch.mpq, no results.`
`23:23.09`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`they changed their mpq process now`
`23:23.34`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`at least 2.0 dropped the patch.mpq and now it uses common and whatever else`
`23:24.12`	`\|Shadow\|`	`heh, well imma uninstall and install again. that'll hopefully fix it`
`23:29.40`	`amro`	`\|Shadow\|: k, see you in a couple of days ingame`
`23:30.11`	`\|Shadow\|`	`y`
`23:30.19`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@84-45-141-44.no-dns-yet.enta.net)`
`23:30.21`	`\|Shadow\|`	`guess this means i have no excuse for not spending new years with my family`
`23:30.22`	`\|Shadow\|`	`:<`
`23:34.47`	`amro`	`maybe you forgot how long WoW takes to install`
`23:35.04`	`amro`	`patching will take just as long if not longer`
`23:40.08`	`\|Shadow\|`	`lol i didn't :P`
`23:40.10`	`\|Shadow\|`	`but meh :D`
`23:41.06`	`ckknight`	`I like the sash, but do the huggies make my ass look big?`
`23:43.38`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge bleetah (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter)`
`23:44.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`is that episode on ckknight or are you just remembering fond times`
`23:44.15`	`ckknight`	`Family Guy`
`23:44.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`yep`
`23:44.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`:o`
`23:44.21`	`ckknight`	`Da Boom`
`23:44.37`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`is it on or are you just having a flashback to a show that's 90% flashbacks`
`23:44.40`	`\|Shadow\|`	`thats my evil mass messageing script wrote :P`
`23:44.47`	`\|Shadow\|`	`hehe, new years spam ftw.`
`23:45.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`oh btw`
`23:45.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`everyone tune into Cartoon Network at...`
`23:45.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`10:00 EST`
`23:45.36`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Metalocalypse Marathon`
`23:45.37`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`do it`
`23:45.37`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Mr_Rabies (n=Mr_Rabie@adsl-066-156-082-132.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)`
`23:47.54`	`AnduinLothar`	`oi. i haven't done much web coding in 2 years... Decided to make my own addon database page... and now my brain hurts`
`23:48.26`	`AnduinLothar`	`i learned before css took over the world apparently`
`23:48.51`	`Cide`	`that's alright, tables are better anyway`
`23:49.03`	`Cide`	`(personal opinion because you have to use 500 hacks to get CSS to work the way you want it to)`
`23:49.21`	`amro`	`CSS is evil`
`23:49.32`	`Cide`	`only thing css is good for right now is saving bandwidth and loading times`
`23:50.20`	`AnduinLothar`	`i thought maybe i could take the code from a premade template from iWeb or RapidWeaver.... bad idea.. they have so many builtin features and fast template switching capibility that the code is unreadable`
`23:51.13`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Slayman (n=Alex@c192119.adsl.hansenet.de)`
`23:51.28`	`AnduinLothar`	`and what the hell is with the fad to have standard width web pages.... does css just suck ass at relational positioning and sizing?`
`23:52.13`	`Tuller`	`hr, the good thing about baggins: there's finally a bag mod other than bagnon that doesn't leak memory :P`
`23:52.14`	`amro`	`no`
`23:52.33`	`amro`	`look at eg http://www.glish.com/css/7.asp`
`23:52.41`	`Slayman`	`hey there, happy new year.`
`23:52.41`	`Slayman`	`Anyone else experiencing problems with wowinterface.com ? can't download anything and sites load improperly`
`23:52.45`	`AnduinLothar`	`whatever happened to having a min 95% body with a max 50 pixel side bar`
`23:53.19`	`bleetah`	`AnduinLothar: it's called l1337 web2.0 doodz!`
`23:53.34`	`AnduinLothar`	`amro: that page fails. try resizing... the middle collumn dissapears`
`23:53.58`	`bleetah`	`AnduinLothar: works fine here in FF 2.0.1 :/`
`23:54.06`	`amro`	`yeah, but why would you reisze it to ~200px?`
`23:54.13`	`AnduinLothar`	`don't ask why`
`23:54.17`	`bleetah`	`ohhh, that small`
`23:54.24`	`AnduinLothar`	`it fails. period`
`23:54.57`	`AnduinLothar`	`is there a minimun width css tag?`
`23:54.59`	`amro`	`how about http://www.glish.com/css/1.asp?`
`23:55.11`	`AnduinLothar`	`same sizing issue`
`23:55.20`	`AnduinLothar`	`needs a min page size`
`23:55.29`	`AnduinLothar`	`that forces side scrolling`
`23:55.37`	`amro`	`min-width`
`23:57.01`	`AnduinLothar`	`needs a min width`
`23:57.05`	`bleetah`	`AnduinLothar: if cosmos has an RSS feed of it's updates, please /msg me with it's URL so I can add it to planet-warcraft.com :)`
`23:57.14`	`AnduinLothar`	`it doesn't`
`23:57.16`	`bleetah`	`AnduinLothar: will do :)`
`23:57.18`	`AnduinLothar`	`it's ancient`
`23:57.47`	`AnduinLothar`	`latest upgrade was slotted for 6 months ago, we may have it done next month..`
`23:57.50`	`AnduinLothar`	`maybe..`
`23:57.55`	`bleetah`	`I've got a couple of scrapers to write, as most mod sites don't seem to be able to provide a feed of new releases and stuff`
`23:58.03`	`bleetah`	`I'll see about adding you into the chain`
`23:58.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`alpha is update almost daily, the other dates you can grab from the download page`
`23:59.29`	`AnduinLothar`	`i see norganna's using a RapidWeaver template. good boy`
`23:59.37`	`bleetah`	`hmm?`
`23:59.56`	`bleetah`	`which site? planet-warcraft.com is me hacking badly at planetplanet's default theme`

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