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| 00:07.05 | Bleetah | http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200612/s1818481.htm |
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| 00:10.57 | foxlit | Why does UnitHealthMax sometimes return 1? |
| 00:11.04 | Imrcly | what is the irl for clique? |
| 00:11.10 | foxlit | ~clique |
| 00:11.12 | purl | [clique] a click-casting addon by Cladhaire, which you can download from WoWInterface: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5108-Clique.html |
| 00:11.27 | Thrae | Clique is, IRL, a man named Bob. |
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| 00:13.03 | clad|away | bob sux imo |
| 00:13.17 | Imrcly | thanks |
| 00:13.24 | Thrae | clad|away: Considering your persuasion, I bet he does. I bet he does. |
| 00:13.34 | clad|away | indeed |
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| 00:14.30 | clad|away | foxlit: I dont know.. that bit me earlier this week |
| 00:16.00 | foxlit | And yet UnitHealth gives the correct one sometimes |
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| 00:18.06 | Guillotine | Qshadowp: just got WoW back up, on to Automootic :) |
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| 00:18.56 | foxlit | moo! |
| 00:19.13 | [Cu]Werik | We need more useful addons like Automootic! |
| 00:19.42 | [Cu]Werik | Really, they bring fun into our sad lives |
| 00:20.08 | Guillotine | Werik: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/search/?cat=1&q_labels=1&q=comedy |
| 00:20.18 | Guillotine | <3 BouncersAnonymous |
| 00:20.20 | [Cu]Werik | I dont want to see that page xD |
| 00:20.30 | Guillotine | the only two addons on it are mine :( |
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| 00:20.40 | Guillotine | Apparently I'm the only one who wastes time writing these |
| 00:20.56 | [Cu]Werik | Not true, I made some back when I was fooling around with lua |
| 00:21.36 | [Cu]Werik | Was enough to realise how hard I fail at lua programming |
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| 00:24.18 | Tain | Woo got my PSP running firmware to run homebrew apps. Including... a wonderful Lua interpreter! |
| 00:24.20 | Smeltn | anyone having the problem with cycircled running in serenity, not being round buttons on the pet bar? |
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| 00:25.23 | Thrae | Tain: I have my DS running homebrew and commercial apps, with Linux (hence a Lua interpreter), an easy-to-use virtual touchpad keyboard, VNC, and a PDA-type system |
| 00:25.57 | Thrae | DS Homebrew capabilities >>>>> PSP, touchpad owns! |
| 00:26.17 | Thrae | It's my new PDA, I sync via Wireless ;) |
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| 00:27.10 | Bleetah | I didn't know DS ran Linux |
| 00:27.30 | Zicon | thrae: Do anything fun in specific with it? I'm going to order a flash cart for my shiny new DS soon... |
| 00:27.32 | Bleetah | mind you, ain't been keeping up on console linux since I tried to convince Sony Australia to sell me a HD for my PS2 |
| 00:27.39 | Thrae | Yep, not a lot of X though, mostly non-graphical apps |
| 00:28.32 | Thrae | Zicon: Get the M3 Perfect SD version. I bought mine from www.consolesource.com -- $99 was the cheapest I could find. But the M3 owns so hard compared to the others. |
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| 00:29.20 | Bleetah | i got a couple of hundred bucks to blow.. might go and get me one |
| 00:29.31 | Zicon | thrae: I've been weighing the m3 against supercard, but I think the supercard is going to win. |
| 00:29.39 | Tain | I like PSP homebrew better for the simple fact of better hardware. But both are wonderful. :) |
| 00:29.57 | Thrae | M3 Perfect SD + two 2GB SD cards from Newegg were $200 total |
| 00:30.06 | Thrae | Actually, $180 I think |
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| 00:30.10 | Teomyr | psp homebrew is very nice, especially with 2.71SE firmware |
| 00:30.48 | Thrae | Zicon: If you're weighing price, then yes, the Supercard is cheaper. But the M3 Perfect isn't that much more expensive and it's much, much better then Supercard. It has built-in RAM which greatly increases compatibility, especially with homebrew. |
| 00:30.49 | Teomyr | never tried ds homebrew... don't you need a special card for it? |
| 00:30.56 | Zicon | I haven't thought very far about what I'm going to do with it, yet. I'm going to install Moonshell and a SNES emulator, beyond that I have no idea. :) |
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| 00:31.34 | Thrae | Zicon: Also, the M3 Adapter has built-in emulators for SNES, Genesis, etc. |
| 00:31.44 | Tain | Teomyr: Running 3.02 custom firmware just released in the last week. So much more. |
| 00:32.01 | Zicon | thrae: Built-in, you say? I was not aware of this. |
| 00:32.09 | Teomyr | Tain: oh, is it? sweet! |
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| 00:32.25 | Teomyr | i'm out of date |
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| 00:33.18 | Thrae | Zicon: Yeah. It also automatically makes a backup of your saved games every boot for all games (including commericial), and comes with Windows/Linux software which easily allows you to patch commericial games without having to use tons of different console programs |
| 00:33.30 | Tain | I was just glad when I could run games that I own off of a memory stick instead of the horrid UMD. |
| 00:33.44 | Inside | I kind of want to buy a PSP now |
| 00:33.51 | Inside | considerin that 3.02 custom can run any PSX game now.. |
| 00:33.53 | Thrae | Zicon: It's a GUI, of course |
| 00:33.54 | Tain | Of course you can now run any original Playstation game. |
| 00:33.55 | Zicon | thrae: Sounds pretty sexy. |
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| 00:34.08 | Inside | buuut I have a feleing I won't be able to pick up the kind of PSP from the store that I can downgrade/upgrade the right firmware on. |
| 00:34.38 | Tain | Yeah I don't know how you can get away with getting them to let you open it up and look at the hardware before you buy |
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| 00:34.48 | Thrae | Yeah, I spent 2 weeks comparing M3 to Supercard, the M3 eventually won out. But then again, DSLinux was a big want for me, and DSLinux runs much better on the M3 Adapter because of its built-in RAM |
| 00:34.51 | Inside | problem is that I don' thave very many old PSX games I want to play |
| 00:34.57 | Inside | or rather, any time I would want to sit around and play them. |
| 00:35.09 | Inside | Becaues ... I'm at either at home where I can play on a PSX emulator |
| 00:35.19 | Inside | or on the road where I cant exactly play with it |
| 00:35.19 | Thrae | Tain: Does it run compressed PSX images? |
| 00:35.19 | Inside | :< |
| 00:35.23 | Zicon | I'm not sure I want or need DSlinux. It would be cute to have an SSH client on my DS, but I doubt I *need* it. :P |
| 00:35.25 | Tain | Not yet Thrae |
| 00:35.33 | Thrae | Awww, that sucks |
| 00:35.52 | Thrae | Zicon: Well, it also comes with games too, and its tiny ;) |
| 00:36.01 | Thrae | Console games like Hack |
| 00:36.15 | Tain | Well you can run ones that you buy online with the Playstation 3 and transfer to your PSP. But the compression routine hasn't been identified yet in custom firmware to create from your own PS discs. |
| 00:36.22 | Zicon | Buuuuut the supercard lite comes in pink... |
| 00:36.26 | Bleetah | nethack ftw! |
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| 00:36.42 | Tain | I've still never ascended. |
| 00:37.01 | Bleetah | only once |
| 00:37.11 | Thrae | There's a PSX emulator for the DS in the works, it can run some older games decently |
| 00:37.13 | Tain | I think I've spent more time playing Nethack with the least amount of progress overall of any game I've ever played. |
| 00:37.16 | Bleetah | drove me mad enough to never wanna play it again |
| 00:37.36 | Bleetah | great game, but argh... the mental torture :) |
| 00:37.41 | Thrae | And it does work with compressed images, since it's based off FSPSXE or whatever |
| 00:37.49 | Tain | But it's still such an awesome game. I just went through another bout with it about a month ago. |
| 00:38.08 | Thrae | I like "Crawl" for less serious Rogue-clones |
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| 00:38.36 | Thrae | Hack is just too many options for casual play ;) |
| 00:38.59 | Bleetah | i don't think it can really be played casually |
| 00:39.04 | Tain | There is nothing casual about it. |
| 00:39.19 | Bleetah | aye |
| 00:39.20 | Tain | haha you are either disturbingly obsessed or not. |
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| 00:41.33 | Imrcly | what is the line you add to macros to make the tooltip match teh spell? |
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| 00:44.10 | Zicon | Hmm, M3 comes in pink now, too. :P |
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| 00:56.37 | Tain | So the Wii now has a browser you can download (Opera) and I'm thinking to myself, "What the hell do I want to browse on the Internet with a console for?" |
| 00:57.09 | Tain | Then I see that you can hit up YouTube and I have to admit watching YouTube videos on my TV isn't bad. |
| 00:57.13 | Inside | To browse the wii store |
| 00:57.22 | Inside | ... well, that's about the main point of a console driver. |
| 00:57.30 | Inside | to browse the virtual console store and download crap. |
| 00:57.43 | Thrae | Tain: Why not? My family already fights over their TWO computers, an additional one for Internet wouldn't be bad for most families. |
| 00:57.46 | phreaky | Never get out of the sofa! |
| 00:57.53 | Inside | since using a generic html interface is soooo much easier than hcoding something shiny that ps3 and xbob have |
| 00:58.18 | Tain | It doesn't use the browser for the normal Wii stuff, Inside. |
| 00:58.35 | Tain | Oh but I did download Super Mario Brothers and R-Type and play them on my Wii. |
| 00:59.42 | Thrae | Tain: It's also a huge bonus for families that don't have a computer, or one that can browse the Internet at broadband speeds. ~$230 for a computer that can use Wireless internet AND is a normal console? Excellent! |
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| 01:00.02 | Thrae | s/internet/routers/ |
| 01:00.13 | Tain | True enough! |
| 01:00.38 | Thrae | There are far enough families like this to make Internet browsing on the Wii a brilliant idea |
| 01:02.02 | Inside | the'll need a ~$60 wirless router and then a ~$20-70/mo internet ocnnection thingie though as well |
| 01:02.26 | Tain | Well it's nice to have. I don't think I'd go so far as to say brilliant since there's no keyboard and mouse, and that makes a web browser a bit tough. |
| 01:02.58 | Thrae | I'm sure you can buy a KB, and the Wii-Emote could be used as a mouse... |
| 01:03.00 | Inside | ewll |
| 01:03.01 | Inside | well |
| 01:03.06 | Inside | 60% of all P2P downloads are porn |
| 01:03.07 | Inside | so.. |
| 01:03.19 | Inside | .I'm gonna assume that you odn't really need much of a keboard to fap with :D |
| 01:03.33 | Thrae | Inside: Most broadband providers provide a wireless modem+router combo |
| 01:04.01 | Thrae | Inside: Those statistics are bogus, the real statistics are about 20% ;) |
| 01:04.35 | Inside | :< |
| 01:04.43 | Inside | We got a modem, no router with my ISP |
| 01:04.52 | Tain | Right now there's no keyboard that works. But it would be nice. |
| 01:05.03 | Inside | however it's a fairly nice 1mbit d/1mbit u connection that's unlkimited so I'm happy |
| 01:05.43 | Thrae | What's your ISP? |
| 01:06.50 | Inside | >_> |
| 01:07.06 | Inside | you can just whois me for it |
| 01:07.38 | Inside | big man in a re dplaid shirt... who loves oxen with genetic skin defects that make them appear blue |
| 01:08.05 | Inside | god, I hate tightvnc |
| 01:08.08 | Inside | slow connection is slow. |
| 01:08.09 | Thrae | Haha, I thought that was a vhost |
| 01:08.27 | Thrae | TightVNC is not intended for LAN usage |
| 01:08.47 | Imrcly | what is the command to see what you are raid locked in? |
| 01:08.48 | Thrae | Use xvnc for Linux, Remote Dekstop for Windows |
| 01:09.16 | Inside | I'm not on LAn |
| 01:09.23 | Inside | I'm sitting at my mom's house like 200 miles awy |
| 01:09.29 | Inside | I don't have winxp at home to use remote desktop |
| 01:09.50 | Thrae | Well then TightVNC is one of the fastest servers + viewers you can use for remote |
| 01:10.04 | Thrae | You need to configure your viewer for fast compression |
| 01:10.38 | Thrae | Of course, if you're trying to do anything but simple tasks, no remote admin tool will help you ;) |
| 01:10.45 | Inside | it is :< |
| 01:10.57 | Thrae | I get 1 FPS when trying to play WoW through VNC remotely, hehe |
| 01:10.59 | Inside | It's just that this is a bad open hotpoint for wirless connections |
| 01:11.14 | Inside | So I'm ending up typing before I can see what eve nappears on the screen |
| 01:11.22 | Inside | Heh =_= |
| 01:11.23 | Thrae | ahh yes, wireless is bad for all remote admin, since it's not a constant connection sometmies |
| 01:11.24 | Inside | I've tried that. |
| 01:11.39 | Inside | it was very painful, went to try to check the mailbox... well, I made it to the mailbox, but then I could't open it. |
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| 01:15.06 | ckknight | hey all |
| 01:16.27 | cladhaire | Does anyone know if Neronix plans to update MobHealth3 and update it on the mod websites? |
| 01:16.36 | xsarpedon | Hey. I always notice I"m not logged on when I need a question answered:P |
| 01:16.52 | xsarpedon | Is there a builtin way to reverse an ipairs result? |
| 01:17.17 | Thrae | cladhaire: wowace.com/files MobHealth works for me? |
| 01:17.29 | cladhaire | yes, but that's not on the websites. |
| 01:17.33 | cladhaire | so most users won't every see it. |
| 01:17.36 | cladhaire | and its uploaded to all three |
| 01:17.46 | cladhaire | i'm compiling for the book right now, and I can't point people at the ace svn |
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| 01:25.41 | decaprime | heh xarpedon |
| 01:25.50 | decaprime | I was just about ready to ask the same question |
| 01:27.30 | decaprime | I am guessing for table.getn(sometable),1,-1 do something end |
| 01:27.39 | decaprime | ... my guesses suck though so what ever |
| 01:28.05 | decaprime | I dono if lua index start 0 like C based or 1 like some other script languages |
| 01:31.31 | decaprime | yah that works xsar, just need to set a variable to table.getn(sometable) and use that in your loop as the index |
| 01:31.40 | decaprime | god lua is easy |
| 01:31.55 | cladhaire | not table.getn(sometable) |
| 01:31.56 | cladhaire | #sometable |
| 01:32.09 | decaprime | hrm why is that? |
| 01:32.50 | decaprime | is #sometable an alias that gets the size |
| 01:33.12 | decaprime | well that works, I mean I tried it... but what ever =) |
| 01:33.24 | Tain | Not just point people at the Ace SVN? There's a thought. If only other people did the same. |
| 01:33.32 | cladhaire | no, # is the length operator |
| 01:33.37 | Garoun | thanks for the honorfu update CK :) |
| 01:33.40 | decaprime | k |
| 01:33.46 | decaprime | =) I am not used to scripting languages |
| 01:33.51 | cladhaire | Tain: the whole releasing of mods is so passe =) |
| 01:33.53 | Garoun | I was about to sit here and rip out all the stuff I didnt' need anymore :P |
| 01:34.07 | decaprime | used to passing by reference and pointers and other crap |
| 01:34.25 | Qshadowp | Guillotine! |
| 01:34.27 | Cide | Garoun: you're not allowed to do that :) |
| 01:34.28 | Qshadowp | automootic ready yet? |
| 01:34.35 | decaprime | well... let me ask you this |
| 01:34.41 | Guillotine | Qshadowp: doing ZG now, so no |
| 01:34.49 | Guillotine | had to completely reinstall WoW :( |
| 01:34.50 | Qshadowp | ok :( |
| 01:35.09 | Garoun | sure I can Cide :) I just can't post it or ask for assistance :P |
| 01:35.16 | Cide | no, you can't |
| 01:35.24 | Cide | well, you can, but you're not allowed to |
| 01:35.52 | Garoun | interesting I'll have to read the eula again I guess :) |
| 01:35.59 | Cide | that's not part of the eula |
| 01:36.42 | Garoun | then where would that be mentioned? |
| 01:37.10 | Cide | if I were to guess, http://www.copyright.gov/ would be a nice place to start |
| 01:38.16 | Garoun | that pertains to taking someone elses stuff, claiming ownership and then resupplying it to others |
| 01:38.51 | Garoun | and I thought most of the mod authors followed GNU for their work |
| 01:39.47 | Cide | only if explicitly stated so |
| 01:40.56 | cladhaire | Garoun: You'll mind the minority of addon authors explicitly license their work, and if they don't they retain absolutely all righs. |
| 01:43.47 | Tain | ~emulate saien |
| 01:43.48 | purl | You are of course, wrong, and I invite you to prove it to yourself. |
| 01:43.53 | Neebler | Seeing as how I'm an american I've never really thought about it, but I find it kind of funny that all *.gov addresses are for U.S. establishments |
| 01:44.28 | Tain | But I thought other countries didn't have governments. |
| 01:44.36 | Neebler | for real! |
| 01:44.41 | Thrae | Well, the Internet domain system was established in the US. |
| 01:45.07 | Tain | Every country should have addresses that are .slave.us |
| 01:45.08 | Thrae | Hence, we got first dibs on all addresses. Poor Irsrael must be .il.gov ;) |
| 01:45.26 | Neebler | even better: foreigners.us |
| 01:45.31 | cladhaire | .com is a US thing.. co.uk is .com for .uk.. .gov.uk is gov, etc. |
| 01:46.03 | Garoun|Loupana | I guess we have way too many people breaking that then :/ |
| 01:46.10 | Cide | Garoun|Loupana: yep. |
| 01:46.25 | Thrae | Well only the last extension matters, so .gov.uk would be .uk with .gov as the main address |
| 01:47.10 | Garoun|Loupana | I always knew if you tried to reproduce someone elses work as your own or modifying it and saying you got the modified version from the person |
| 01:47.26 | cladhaire | Thrae: yes.. but il.gov is a domain that needs to be regitered, its not a TLD |
| 01:47.28 | Garoun|Loupana | but never knew it also fell under commenting out a line locally |
| 01:47.30 | cladhaire | the proper woudl be gov.il |
| 01:47.41 | Thrae | Yeah I meant .gov.il |
| 01:48.58 | Neebler | So the US has the dibs on domain name creation. How'd grennich get dibs on Time? |
| 01:48.59 | Garoun|Loupana | of course the problem with the copyright law is they'll mention art and books and music but they are so old it doesn't have a lot on actual coding |
| 01:49.18 | Cide | code is still intellectual property |
| 01:49.39 | Neebler | I mean Greenwich |
| 01:49.53 | Garoun|Loupana | true |
| 01:49.55 | Thrae | Neebler: US has "Standard Time", Europe has "Grennich Mean Time" |
| 01:50.12 | Thrae | s/Grennich/Grenwich/ |
| 01:50.12 | cladhaire | we have "Standard Time"? |
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| 01:50.31 | Thrae | cladhaire: Eastren Standard Time, Pacific Standard Time, Mountain Standard Time, Central Standard Time |
| 01:50.32 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm the type of person that likes to learn that stuff Cide, especially if I didn't know it to begin with :P |
| 01:50.41 | cladhaire | .. those are just time zones. |
| 01:50.44 | cladhaire | they're all based off GMT |
| 01:50.47 | cladhaire | GMT-5, GMT-6, etc. |
| 01:50.53 | cladhaire | that's why your statement confused me. |
| 01:51.02 | Thrae | Lemme double-check |
| 01:51.11 | Tain | Stupid time zones. |
| 01:51.35 | cladhaire | EST simply means GMT-5, EDT meant GMT-4 ( I think ) |
| 01:51.53 | Tain | I loves me some GMT-5. |
| 01:52.06 | cladhaire | true dat b! |
| 01:52.19 | Thrae | cladhaire: Yeah, US's time zone system was based off what GMT was based off, but GMT didn't exist back then |
| 01:52.19 | cladhaire | hrm, i may be in boston for new years |
| 01:52.22 | cladhaire | i shoudl probably decide on that. |
| 01:52.34 | Tain | Word |
| 01:52.40 | Tain | I'm 20 miles from Bostons yo |
| 01:52.44 | Garoun|Loupana | Cide: so would that also include there being a bug in a peice of code and you attempt to debug it for the person, find said bug and report it to them? |
| 01:52.50 | cladhaire | Thrae: Aye, but you were explaining the us time zones as some equivalent to GMT, which it really isn't. |
| 01:52.52 | cladhaire | Tain: I knwo =) |
| 01:52.56 | cladhaire | i'll buy ya drink |
| 01:53.19 | Cide | Garoun|Loupana: no idea, I'm not an expert on copyright law by any means |
| 01:53.20 | Thrae | cladhaire: They are the solar mean time specifically for the US ;) |
| 01:53.22 | Tain | I'll drink it |
| 01:53.40 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm just looking for your opinion in this case :) |
| 01:53.59 | Thrae | s/mean// |
| 01:54.16 | Garoun|Loupana | if anything I should know it back and forth since it was about 20% of my course work in college, but that was like 9 years ago :x |
| 01:55.31 | Garoun|Loupana | of course if we followed strict copyright then all someone should be doing is reporting the error message unless the author specifically asks them to try something |
| 01:56.16 | cladhaire | you don't sound edit someone's CD and correct the sound blip you found, do you? =) |
| 01:56.37 | Garoun|Loupana | nah, bad example since I'm not that knowledgeable :P |
| 01:56.43 | Garoun|Loupana | but point is made |
| 01:56.46 | Thrae | cladhaire: Greenwich Mean Time is a method of determining time zone independant of location. US's "Standard Time" time zones were based on the old solar time methods (or "local mean time") |
| 01:57.11 | cladhaire | Thrae: *nod*.. that's what I meant.. i suspect we're saying the same thing in different ways |
| 01:57.11 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:57.30 | Thrae | Yet another stupid thing the US decided to keep when the rest of the world converted to more scientifically sound principles (also see: metric system) |
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| 01:58.10 | Garoun|Loupana | granted, I also do contractor work and the gov owns everything I do in the office so I haven't technically programmed anything in quite a while :( |
| 01:58.12 | Thrae | The United States of America -- We're A World Power Because Our Army Is Bigger Then Yours |
| 01:59.07 | Garoun|Loupana | it may have my name on it, but I have no rights to it beyond a contact person for corrections |
| 01:59.38 | Thrae | Garoun|Loupana: What are they going to do, sue you? |
| 01:59.51 | Garoun|Loupana | well, no, they'd put me in jail |
| 01:59.52 | Garoun|Loupana | :P |
| 02:00.16 | Thrae | I'm going to grab RDX and put it freely on as many websites as possible! |
| 02:00.39 | Thrae | If they complain, I must only cite Roe vs Wade. |
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| 02:00.54 | Guillotine | Automootic is ready, just doing some final testing |
| 02:01.03 | Garoun|Loupana | it falls under the "Work made for hire" clause |
| 02:02.10 | Garoun|Loupana | any programming or work we do at my office is owned by the US Gov |
| 02:02.17 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: You gonna update WitchHunt on wowinterface? |
| 02:03.01 | Garoun|Loupana | lets not start up that whole RDC discussion :) |
| 02:03.07 | Garoun|Loupana | how dare you Thrae :P |
| 02:03.16 | Garoun|Loupana | RDX even |
| 02:03.34 | Tain | Screw anyone charging for WoW addons. |
| 02:04.40 | cladhaire | its his right =) |
| 02:04.52 | cladhaire | and yours to not use it =) |
| 02:04.57 | cladhaire | there.. argument over! |
| 02:05.07 | Garoun|Loupana | lol |
| 02:05.09 | cladhaire | whether or not you disagree with him doing it, I don't care, so don't tell me =) |
| 02:05.38 | Garoun|Loupana | linux model... you pay for the support! <shifty eyes> :P |
| 02:06.40 | Garoun|Loupana | but can we agree that we can't wait to use PerfectRaid, Clad? |
| 02:06.42 | Thrae | Garoun|Loupana: Was that suppose to be sarcastic? Otherwise I don't get it. |
| 02:07.03 | cladhaire | its going to cost you.. $45.00 per computer. |
| 02:07.10 | Shadowed | Cide: Theres no such thing as a Widow's Remorse of <modifier> :p |
| 02:07.30 | Cide | where'd you say that? on a profile or in search? |
| 02:07.38 | Garoun|Loupana | I don't know anymore Thrae, I need to eat dinner, brain is suffering from stupidity starvation |
| 02:07.59 | Garoun|Loupana | see what I mean? sigh |
| 02:08.22 | Thrae | I've been using SmartBuff as a replacement for PerfectRaid right now. They're similiar, except SmartBuff is more buff-oriented, of course. SmartBuff can show HP and MP values (default to deficit), as well as who needs Innervate, Curing, Buffing, etc. |
| 02:08.30 | Tain | Actually the issue is I don't know if it is entirely his right. |
| 02:08.54 | cladhaire | Thrae: The customization of buff display inpraid isn't something that exists outside an RDX-type mod right now.. |
| 02:08.57 | cladhaire | its really nice |
| 02:08.57 | Tain | I think there are issues around the fact that Blizzard owns the medium that someone is selling services for. |
| 02:09.08 | Tain | Of course until it is challenged in court it's just opinion. |
| 02:10.03 | Thrae | cladhaire: Yeah, I'm looking forward to PR too. It wouldn't take much to add all of SmartBuff features I like... |
| 02:10.29 | cladhaire | heh easy for you to say |
| 02:10.31 | Guillotine | I came up with a great idea. I'm going to make an awesome mod entirely with photoshop, write a REALLY buggy non-functional version, then charge for support |
| 02:10.38 | Guillotine | by the hour |
| 02:10.40 | Guillotine | then I'll go on hold |
| 02:11.02 | Garoun|Loupana | is that your lawyer impression Guillotine? |
| 02:11.05 | Guillotine | oh wait, looks like Dell already used that idea |
| 02:11.05 | cladhaire | Guillotine: will it butter my toast? |
| 02:11.05 | Thrae | cladhaire: Well, basically I think it would just be the trigger button, that's it |
| 02:11.12 | cladhaire | trigger button? |
| 02:11.34 | Thrae | cladhaire: SmartBuff has a button you can press which cures the first Need in its list |
| 02:11.44 | Thrae | Excellent for buffing 40 people outside of combat |
| 02:11.48 | Garoun|Loupana | Nah, you should provide an EA ui, Guillotine :) |
| 02:11.57 | Guillotine | Groun: EA? |
| 02:12.06 | Garoun|Loupana | you give them a great ui with everything in it, but it all has to have unlock codes |
| 02:12.08 | cladhaire | Thrae: only works outside combat i assume? |
| 02:12.08 | Qshadowp | whats the command to kick from guild? |
| 02:12.11 | Qshadowp | i thought it was /gkick? |
| 02:12.21 | cladhaire | thats actually really easy given the buff structure i have at the moment. |
| 02:12.27 | cladhaire | just no concept of priority |
| 02:12.32 | Thrae | cladhaire: Yeah, but the alerts work inside combat. "Thrae needs Mark of the Wild" |
| 02:12.43 | Thrae | I like visual alerts myself |
| 02:12.49 | Tain | Screw Thrae! |
| 02:12.58 | Garoun|Loupana | EA is starting to pull the crap where they give you a game, but they made the "non-core" stuff unlockable |
| 02:12.59 | cladhaire | heh, well mine just tells you the current state, not when something becomes needed. |
| 02:13.04 | cladhaire | btu it weouldn't be horrible *shrug* |
| 02:13.04 | cladhaire | meh |
| 02:13.14 | Garoun|Loupana | and you have to pay a few to unlock them |
| 02:13.27 | Thrae | cladhaire: It should be simple enough, just add it to lost aura |
| 02:13.32 | Garoun|Loupana | few/fee |
| 02:13.38 | cladhaire | i dont' "lose" auras. |
| 02:13.38 | Thrae | cladhaire: Not to say YOU need to do it |
| 02:13.42 | cladhaire | that's the point =) |
| 02:14.19 | Garoun|Loupana | Qshadowp either that or maybe /gremove |
| 02:14.31 | Tain | I lost an aura. I think at the mall. |
| 02:14.50 | cladhaire | Tain: No, you left it in the mailbox. |
| 02:14.58 | Thrae | cladhaire: Do you have an equivilent of the event? |
| 02:15.17 | cladhaire | i can do it, if that's what you're asking |
| 02:15.17 | Garoun|Loupana | did you forget to align your chakra tain? |
| 02:15.25 | cladhaire | it just requires a state table. |
| 02:15.30 | cladhaire | i'm stateless at the moment |
| 02:15.31 | cladhaire | which i prefer |
| 02:16.37 | Tain | I went to a physical therapist for my neck, she was aligning things pretty good. |
| 02:16.42 | Thrae | cladhaire: But when the Lose Aura event fires, and that lost aura is "Mark of the Wild", why would you need to save that state just to respond to that event? |
| 02:16.51 | Tain | but the $20 copay twice a week was a bit much. |
| 02:17.01 | Garoun|Loupana | I can imagine |
| 02:17.03 | cladhaire | there is no lost aura event, only UNIT_AURA |
| 02:17.08 | cladhaire | so i would have to know that it was missing previously |
| 02:17.13 | Garoun|Loupana | good thing it's cover though |
| 02:17.21 | cladhaire | if you're 'talkign combat log scanning, thats a whole different nightmare. |
| 02:17.25 | Thrae | Ah I thought that was finally updated in 2.0 |
| 02:18.09 | Thrae | cladhaire: Well I think with a mod like PR, instead of |
| 02:18.33 | Thrae | cladhaire: Well I think with a mod like PR, more important then adding more and more features is a well-documented API that people can add their own features to. |
| 02:18.56 | cladhaire | .. |
| 02:18.57 | cladhaire | ? |
| 02:19.19 | cladhaire | praid has never had/done that, and i'm not sure why it would |
| 02:19.26 | Thrae | Like Clique's plugin system. |
| 02:19.30 | Tain | Should have support for ice cream makers |
| 02:19.32 | cladhaire | which doesn't exist anymore =) |
| 02:19.44 | Tain | I'd like being able to make ice cream during a raid |
| 02:19.48 | cladhaire | and was only necessary because of the hacks that i needed |
| 02:20.07 | Thrae | Well they don't need to be plugins, just allow people to more easily make addons that add to the functionality of PR. |
| 02:20.09 | Guillotine | theres no event when an enemy releases their corpse is there? |
| 02:20.27 | Thrae | Guillotine: There's not even a Combat Log message for that |
| 02:20.46 | Guillotine | what do you mean 'not even'? Theres FAR more events than combat log messages :P |
| 02:20.53 | Guillotine | and every combat log message has an event |
| 02:21.22 | Tain | Your mom has an event. |
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| 02:22.03 | Thrae | I like the idea of making addons with a small core that interacts with seperate modules for different features. It allows for the greatest flexibility in the user choosing which features they want from your addon, and if documented, allows easier extension by other addons. |
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| 02:22.38 | Thrae | But if PR isn't already coded like that, then I say it's too much effort unless you want to do it. |
| 02:22.53 | Tain | Stupid PR what a waste |
| 02:23.00 | cladhaire | well its just not stateful |
| 02:23.04 | Cide | any PR is good PR |
| 02:23.05 | cladhaire | and what you're asking for requires state =) |
| 02:23.16 | cladhaire | Cide wrote 75% of PerfectRaid |
| 02:23.24 | Cide | I did? I'm awesome! |
| 02:23.28 | Tain | Stupid Cice |
| 02:23.29 | cladhaire | i'm just a pretty face |
| 02:23.39 | Tain | Stupid pretty faces |
| 02:24.00 | Shadowed | Cide: oops in a raid, it's one of the profile items when trying to add Widow's Remorse |
| 02:24.09 | Thrae | No no, I'm not taking about that. I'm talking about making it easier for me to add something like states to PR for buffs ;) |
| 02:24.45 | Thrae | s/me/people like me/ && s/to/to do stuff/1 |
| 02:25.00 | cladhaire | well, that's really outside the scope of what i'm doing |
| 02:25.02 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
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| 02:25.09 | cladhaire | making perfectraid plugin-able isn't high on my list |
| 02:25.14 | cladhaire | well, not on my list at all |
| 02:25.22 | decaprime | Wow guys, that went fast, my addon is like fully functional within 2 hours... one thing left to add is saving things and loading them, I need to save a table by name, should I just make a table of tables a savedvariable indexed by the name? |
| 02:25.36 | Thrae | I'm just talking about documenting the API, that's all. |
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| 02:26.12 | JoshBork1 | hola! |
| 02:26.33 | Thrae | decaprime: You can access values in tables by strings... |
| 02:26.45 | decaprime | yah |
| 02:26.49 | cladhaire | Thrae: There is no API..thats the point.. i guess. |
| 02:26.58 | cladhaire | and API means there is an interface, and there's isn't. |
| 02:27.02 | cladhaire | it just.. runs. |
| 02:27.05 | decaprime | I know... but like if I had profiles I wanted to save like /bm save mainraid |
| 02:27.24 | decaprime | I would just make a savedvaraible a table that contained more tables with like "mainraid" as the index |
| 02:27.31 | JoshBork1 | question for the masses. is there any mod that will tell you what keys are bound to what? |
| 02:28.25 | Cide | you can try ctra2 for that Thrae ;) |
| 02:28.29 | Thrae | cladhaire: Well it's not completely functional, is it? You probably have functions which add X and Y, etc. That's what I understand to still be an API, just not an intuitive one. |
| 02:28.44 | cladhaire | nothing you can call to do anything |
| 02:28.44 | cladhaire | nom |
| 02:28.50 | Thrae | Ah |
| 02:28.51 | cladhaire | but you can configure everything internally |
| 02:28.52 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 02:28.59 | Thrae | So it's almost entirely functional |
| 02:29.03 | Tain | I'm good at internalizing. |
| 02:29.49 | cladhaire | Thrae: meh |
| 02:29.49 | cladhaire | it works |
| 02:30.01 | cladhaire | the frames work, making new headers works, =adding buff watching works |
| 02:30.03 | Thrae | Cide: Does CTRA2 separate everything into modules you can easily remove? |
| 02:30.07 | Scre3m | what is the macro command to send pet in to attack? |
| 02:30.13 | Cide | Thrae: eventually |
| 02:30.18 | Cide | I'm not done with that yet |
| 02:30.26 | JoshBork1 | Scre3m: /petattack |
| 02:30.31 | Cide | and I haven't decided what I want to make modules out of |
| 02:30.37 | Thrae | cladhaire: I'm not chastizing you...like I said, if it isn't already modularized, then don't bother |
| 02:30.47 | Tain | Or just /yourmomattack |
| 02:31.34 | cladhaire | what you're asking for isn't modularization |
| 02:31.36 | cladhaire | that's why i'm confused. |
| 02:31.51 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:32.05 | Thrae | How is the ability to add modules not modularization? |
| 02:32.07 | cladhaire | i can make a modular addon that doesn't have an API whatsoever. |
| 02:32.22 | cladhaire | modularization is seprating different portions of functionality into different logical modules. |
| 02:32.27 | cladhaire | that doesn't mean it has an API |
| 02:32.46 | cladhaire | they're not the same =) |
| 02:33.32 | Thrae | But if you separate functionality into different modules, they have to have a way to interact with each other. That's a type of API, just not a powerful one. |
| 02:33.47 | cladhaire | you assume a specific manner of modularization |
| 02:33.59 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 02:34.02 | Thrae | Of course, you could make it so the modules can ONLY talk with each other, and in a functional way, but that would defeat the purpose of modularization for most cases, in my opinion. |
| 02:34.09 | cladhaire | why? |
| 02:34.14 | cladhaire | your goals are different from mine, perhaps |
| 02:34.22 | cladhaire | I want to make it so you can remove whatever you'dlike, and the mod will continue to operate |
| 02:34.40 | cladhaire | that's still a valid goal, compared to having an extensive plugin system for extension |
| 02:35.08 | Scre3m | JoshBork1, ty |
| 02:36.19 | cladhaire | That being said, its 10 lines of code, however you slice it =) |
| 02:36.43 | decaprime | k... so I am still a bit lost |
| 02:36.46 | Thrae | It depends on how you design the modules. The more you separate them up, the more modules other modules can interact with. |
| 02:37.52 | decaprime | How do I initiliaze a saved variable... like I looked at cryolisis and it has Default_CryolysisConfig={....}; then CryolysisConfig={}; is Default_ a special keyword or how does this work |
| 02:38.11 | decaprime | like if CryolysisConfig wasn't there would Default_ take its place? |
| 02:38.30 | Thrae | I think it would be a rather convoluted design to try to make a "functional modularized" approach where, say, "higher" modules can only talk to "lower" modules |
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| 02:38.49 | cladhaire | Thrae: There are different levels, and different goals. I have coded like that, and I may in the future.. but "modularization" doesn't mean it inherently has an API for extensions and addons. |
| 02:38.57 | cladhaire | thats all my point is. |
| 02:39.10 | cladhaire | modules doesn't mean "accessible API for extension" |
| 02:39.25 | cladhaire | again, merely arguing the semantics. |
| 02:39.30 | Thrae | Yeah, but I still think that's counter to the intention of modularization. Not that it's a "bad idea" |
| 02:39.45 | cladhaire | on YOUR intent. |
| 02:39.49 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:40.24 | Thrae | cladhaire: No, I'm basing my ideas on the intent of the invention of modularization |
| 02:40.39 | Tain | I base mmy ideas on the intent for debauchery. |
| 02:40.40 | Thrae | But anyway, my brain is shutting down |
| 02:40.54 | cladhaire | A module can be defined variously, but generally must be a component of a larger system, and operate within that system independently from the operations of the other components. |
| 02:40.58 | Thrae | Due to lack of Ice Cream |
| 02:41.13 | kergoth | is there a decent standalone performance bar, along the likes of GCInfo but with fps/latency? |
| 02:41.28 | cladhaire | hrm.. there was at some point. |
| 02:41.31 | cladhaire | i'll see if i can dig it up |
| 02:42.58 | Thrae | kergoth: FuBar addons can be standalone (at least they're suppose to be) |
| 02:43.17 | kergoth | yes, they can |
| 02:43.23 | kergoth | that doesnt mean i want to have to mouse over a button to see the info |
| 02:43.40 | Thrae | You can detach the tablet |
| 02:43.49 | kergoth | what part of "bar" do you not understand? |
| 02:43.58 | kergoth | wasting an assload of screenspace on a tablet isnt something i want |
| 02:43.58 | Thrae | Oh you want it in bar form, not number |
| 02:44.20 | kergoth | number form is fine, as long as its compact |
| 02:44.23 | kergoth | the tablet is decidedly not. |
| 02:44.34 | KiphereCE | omg peepz in da hedz! |
| 02:46.36 | JoshBork2 | how do i get the size of a table created by "local tbl = { functionWithMultipleReturns() }"? |
| 02:46.46 | kergoth | #tbl |
| 02:46.46 | Cide | #tbl |
| 02:46.47 | cladhaire | #tbl |
| 02:46.50 | cladhaire | damn you all |
| 02:46.51 | Cide | #tbl |
| 02:46.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:46.58 | JoshBork2 | tie between kergoth and cide |
| 02:47.03 | Cide | I won here! |
| 02:47.23 | JoshBork2 | i tried select('#',tbl) but that didn't work... |
| 02:47.29 | kergoth | select operates on ... |
| 02:47.31 | kergoth | not tables |
| 02:47.46 | JoshBork2 | now i know :) |
| 02:47.56 | Cide | select operates on a list, more specifically |
| 02:48.00 | kergoth | more accurately, it goes based on the number of arguments it gets |
| 02:48.01 | kergoth | yea |
| 02:48.43 | End | you could do select('#', unpack(tbl)), but that'd be a pretty retarded way to do it |
| 02:49.15 | kergoth | lua really needs a proper immutable tuple type, so you can have named ... |
| 02:49.46 | KiphereCE | I'm listening to all the Real Men of Genius commercials. ;) |
| 02:49.55 | Cide | being able to construct that would be awesome |
| 02:50.26 | Cide | and have more than one... |
| 02:50.35 | JoshBork2 | hey cladhaire, what's the Dongle.lua used for in clique? |
| 02:50.38 | kergoth | being able to use an immutable tuple as a table key would kick ass |
| 02:50.52 | kergoth | foo[(1,2,3)] or whatever |
| 02:50.57 | kergoth | and have it actually behave |
| 02:50.59 | Cide | reminds me of python |
| 02:51.11 | Cide | which I also like a lot! |
| 02:51.19 | cladhaire | JoshBork2: Provides a basic addon framework, in this case DB, event registration and slash command handling |
| 02:51.28 | JoshBork2 | nifty |
| 02:51.42 | cladhaire | actually also contains an Iriel versioning stub |
| 02:52.27 | Tain | I gave your mom a stub. |
| 02:52.44 | cladhaire | thats all you ahd to give her |
| 02:53.07 | Tain | It's true, they call me Stubby McStubbalot |
| 02:53.14 | Smeltn | help |
| 02:53.26 | Smeltn | I have a little eyeball moving button by my minimap and I am not in a lfg que |
| 02:53.28 | cladhaire | call 911, irc isn't appropriate for emergencies |
| 02:53.30 | Smeltn | its there everytime I log in |
| 02:54.22 | Tain | Your eyeball is supposed to be inside your skull, not moving around |
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| 02:55.54 | lectrd | Does anyone know of a site that has the API in a printable format? |
| 02:56.11 | JoshBork1 | how should i go about decomposing ALT-CTRL-SHIFT-<key> into a separated format? |
| 02:56.35 | JoshBork1 | my brain hasn't been functioning at all for the past 2 weeks |
| 02:56.35 | Qshadowp | ding 300 herbalism \o/ |
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| 02:58.10 | JoshBork1 | um |
| 02:58.24 | JoshBork1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs anyone else see the HOWTO: Masturbate with sandpaper? o.O |
| 02:58.46 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Gggoiuhytgfrd is my fav |
| 02:58.53 | Tain | I must have missed that. |
| 02:59.44 | Qshadowp | lmfao i see that too xD |
| 02:59.58 | Qshadowp | someone must be very random. |
| 03:00.12 | End | there |
| 03:00.23 | Thrae | No instructions, damn them! |
| 03:00.24 | End | no more Gggoiuhytgfrd |
| 03:01.37 | JoshBork1 | aw, no more sandpaper masturbation either |
| 03:02.34 | lectrd | Anyone have experience programming with the RDX mods? |
| 03:03.04 | Thrae | Hmmm, problem with the G15 -- it doesn't fit very well on my pull-out KB drawer |
| 03:03.09 | cladhaire | boo |
| 03:03.18 | Qshadowp | lol Thrae :P |
| 03:03.48 | Thrae | Now I can't push the KB all the way in :D |
| 03:04.19 | Cide | I've had problems with the macros not recording properly |
| 03:07.28 | KiphereCE | I need a better unitbars and buffbars mod. |
| 03:07.28 | Tain | I found I had to record macros and then edit them. |
| 03:07.29 | KiphereCE | is CT all workin right now? (don't need raid, just the bars/buff mods etc) |
| 03:07.29 | Tain | But I didn't have any problems after that. |
| 03:07.29 | Cide | KiphereCE: have been for the past month |
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| 03:07.29 | Cide | Tain: yeah, but that's what I mean |
| 03:07.30 | KiphereCE | ahh, thought I had heard there were some issues with the base CT bit |
| 03:07.30 | Cide | that were fixed within a week :) |
| 03:07.30 | KiphereCE | only really want the Unit bars and buff options mainly. |
| 03:07.30 | Cide | I typed /script CT_RaidAssist2:DisplayOptionsMenu() and it was recorded as /script CT_raidassist2:DisplayOptionsMenu(9 |
| 03:07.30 | Cide | ()* |
| 03:07.30 | Bleetah | I had macro recording probs on my G15, I seemed to be able to overcome it by inserting a minimum 10ms delay between each keypress |
| 03:07.30 | Cide | at least 5-6 times, too |
| 03:07.30 | Inside | >_P> |
| 03:07.31 | Inside | lawl |
| 03:07.41 | Bleetah | yeah, it seems to freak a little on the shift key thing, too |
| 03:08.30 | Imrcly | i want one they are so sexy insanly better than this $10 walmart keyboard |
| 03:09.11 | Thrae | G15 is a luxury gamer's item, really. |
| 03:09.20 | Imrcly | its been only 4 hours and i miss my laptop |
| 03:09.39 | Thrae | No real advantage over a $10 KB, except for its non-KB specific functions |
| 03:10.09 | Imrcly | and its easier to type on this thing requires key punching to type |
| 03:10.41 | Thrae | Wait, can you use the G15 with video game consoles? It has a switch here that looks like a Computer and a Joystick |
| 03:11.11 | Thrae | Well I guess it's different strokes for different folks. I was born on clackety KBs, so I put a lot of force in my typing |
| 03:11.46 | Imrcly | i used to have this as my keyboard and i liked it but i have gotten used to easy type keyboards |
| 03:11.59 | Imrcly | now i am using this thing again |
| 03:12.34 | Qshadowp | haha automootic is so fun :P |
| 03:12.44 | Imrcly | is it done? |
| 03:13.18 | Qshadowp | i went to my realms irc channel and said "im in your ab's mooing at your taurens" |
| 03:13.19 | Qshadowp | xD |
| 03:13.50 | Guillotine | Automootic: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5591/automootic/ |
| 03:14.16 | Guillotine | purl, Automootic is <reply> /moo at all tauren you mouseover! (Only works well for alliance). Available at http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5591/automootic/ |
| 03:14.31 | purl | okay, Guillotine |
| 03:14.53 | KiphereCE | I really hope the new flexbar has the same basic options as the old one. |
| 03:15.11 | KiphereCE | primarily the grouping, scaling, etc. I messed with 2 for a bit in its unfinished version and the gui frightened me. |
| 03:18.07 | Qshadowp | ~automootic |
| 03:18.16 | purl | /moo at all tauren you mouseover! (Only works well for alliance). Available at http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5591/automootic/ |
| 03:18.21 | Qshadowp | nice :) |
| 03:19.35 | JoshBork1 | lol KiphereCE |
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| 03:30.40 | Mike-N-Go | KiphereCE: Roll a new one! |
| 03:30.49 | Mike-N-Go | Someone unlike your current toons! |
| 03:31.44 | Corrodias | i guess i might as well start from the beginning, updating my addons for 2.0, since it's been a few weeks |
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| 03:43.13 | KiphereCE | ok |
| 03:43.21 | KiphereCE | the new CT stuff like the buff window and the gui for it... |
| 03:43.24 | KiphereCE | art. |
| 03:43.31 | KiphereCE | it's really impressive. |
| 03:44.37 | cladhaire | screenshot? |
| 03:44.41 | cladhaire | i'd like to see it =) |
| 03:44.44 | cladhaire | <# ct |
| 03:46.08 | KiphereCE | you have to pretty much see it in action |
| 03:46.34 | KiphereCE | a ss doesnt do it justice, the way the gui works and the smoothness of the bars while they 'time down' on debuffs, etc. |
| 03:46.38 | KiphereCE | its really nice. |
| 03:46.41 | Thrae | What's <# stand for? "I like CT as much as Ice-cream cones!" |
| 03:47.04 | End | hmm, so I've written a working version of ReactionBar |
| 03:47.08 | Bleetah | yes, the CT team really have outdone themselves this release |
| 03:47.15 | End | unfortunately, hooksecurefunc breaks it |
| 03:47.33 | decaprime | hey guys, how do I check if a table is empty |
| 03:47.36 | Thrae | Hmmm, my gaming computer seems to have died. |
| 03:47.46 | End | decaprime: next(mytable) == nil |
| 03:47.59 | decaprime | thansk |
| 03:48.00 | Thrae | Ah wait... |
| 03:48.05 | decaprime | ill give it a go end |
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| 03:48.55 | Corrodias | so this new CT release is... released? |
| 03:49.18 | Corrodias | come to think of it, i never used CTRA's "visible" features, except raid warnings, and |
| 03:49.22 | Bleetah | Corrodias: yes |
| 03:49.29 | Corrodias | i can't really think of anything else that i used at all |
| 03:49.58 | KiphereCE | anyone know a good unit bar mod? I want a fairly 'square' unitbar, invididually movable party members, scale option, and any other little perks but mainly those things. |
| 03:50.06 | KiphereCE | I can't tell how to see if a mod is 2.0 compliant on Curse >< |
| 03:50.18 | decaprime | hey end |
| 03:50.35 | Corrodias | well, i enjoy x-perl unitframes... although it's not simple-looking |
| 03:50.49 | Guillotine | KiphereCE: just search by only 2.0 comlpliant mods |
| 03:51.10 | KiphereCE | I just clicked on unit frames in the menu. |
| 03:51.20 | KiphereCE | not sure why it doesnt have any sort of 'tag' to let people know its compliant. |
| 03:51.22 | Corrodias | last i checked, curse had shit for a search feature (a single string by name only) |
| 03:51.29 | End | decaprime: hmm? |
| 03:51.31 | Imrcly | automootic error http://wowi.pastey.net/4019 |
| 03:51.38 | decaprime | didn't work |
| 03:51.43 | End | it should work |
| 03:51.46 | decaprime | well atleast wasn't what I needed |
| 03:52.07 | Qshadowp | is it possible to make wow save jpg files instead of tga? |
| 03:52.15 | Qshadowp | tis so silly, takes up masses of space for no reason :( |
| 03:52.32 | cladhaire | Qshadowp: No |
| 03:52.35 | cladhaire | and on a mac, they save as jpg instead of tga |
| 03:52.36 | cladhaire | which sucks |
| 03:52.45 | Qshadowp | :| |
| 03:52.47 | Corrodias | mass convert with an image editor |
| 03:52.57 | Qshadowp | 6mb a screenshot FTL. |
| 03:53.00 | End | you should be able to change it on a mac |
| 03:53.10 | Corrodias | i've got a few gigs of screenshots, myself |
| 03:53.11 | End | it's a CVar most likely |
| 03:53.13 | Qshadowp | oh well, sleepy time :p |
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| 03:53.44 | Thrae | On a Mac, files open you! |
| 03:54.57 | Bleetah | I thought they made it recently so it'd save jpg? |
| 03:56.12 | funnellpd | Anyone here have a minute to answer a question regarding macros and chat channels? |
| 03:57.51 | funnellpd | I've got a simple /2 WTB [item] macro and am looking for a way to have it send to /1 instead if I'm not in a city. |
| 03:58.13 | funnellpd | Whether with a button or key modifier, whatever works. |
| 04:02.14 | Guillotine | Imrcly: thats interesting. How did you get the death of something with nil name? |
| 04:02.36 | KiphereCE | ugh. |
| 04:02.51 | KiphereCE | ui.worldofwar.net is hard to navigate. |
| 04:02.57 | KiphereCE | I can't find shit though theres a lot of stuff. |
| 04:06.16 | KiphereCE | I go to curse and I can't tell which are 2.0 compliant, I go to ui.worldofwar.net and it's fishing through a jumbled pile of addons, I go to wowinterface and theres only a few unitbars available at all =\ |
| 04:06.16 | Corrodias | probably because you're the only person who uses the term "unitbars" :) |
| 04:06.16 | KiphereCE | I'm not searching based on that term. |
| 04:06.16 | KiphereCE | I'm speaking. |
| 04:06.17 | Imrcly | Guillotine: i used twisting neither and then killed them before it totaly reloaded my screen |
| 04:06.17 | KiphereCE | and there's a whole section on wowinterface called 'unit mods' |
| 04:06.17 | Guillotine | Imrcly: ahh. Well, I'm not going to go through the work of putting in checks for that :P |
| 04:06.17 | KiphereCE | "unit frames" on Curse. |
| 04:06.17 | KiphereCE | and nothign comparable on ui.worldofwar.net that I can find, though its confusing enough just to scan their menu. |
| 04:06.21 | Imrcly | i love that 10% chance to rez on that card cause mages don't be doing that |
| 04:08.12 | Guillotine | KiphereCE: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/search/ |
| 04:08.20 | Guillotine | just check WoW2.0 and both TBC |
| 04:09.17 | KiphereCE | curse is frustrating me atm, most of the screenshots are being replcaed by the same image from some other mod it seems. |
| 04:10.02 | KiphereCE | I'll stick with the default bars for now, don't need em that bad. |
| 04:20.33 | Neuro | KiphereCE, what are you looking for in unit frames? |
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| 04:21.24 | Corrodias | DEFAULT BARS? OMG |
| 04:23.01 | Imrcly | i use defualt bars |
| 04:24.28 | Gnarfoz_ | blergh :\ can't stand them ^^ |
| 04:24.41 | xsarpedon | Me too, I don't understand everyones hatred of them |
| 04:25.08 | Neuro | I'm fine with default personally... has the information I need |
| 04:25.29 | Neuro | granted, I use ctmod to add the hp/mana display |
| 04:26.11 | Neuro | what's up with wowi? |
| 04:26.17 | Corrodias | they don't display enough information for me and they don't display it in a sufficiently efficient manner |
| 04:26.32 | Corrodias | brb |
| 04:26.56 | Imrcly | i use titan panel |
| 04:28.39 | Guillotine | KiphereCE: ya, known bug :/ I'm sticking to default bars too until Loz finishes DAB |
| 04:30.26 | Neuro | I think he means default frames |
| 04:30.36 | Neuro | i.e. DUF, not DAB |
| 04:30.49 | Guillotine | either way, I'm sticking with it until the discord version is rady :P |
| 04:31.34 | Guillotine | though I'm loving some of the features of RDX.Cid |
| 04:42.19 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: ping |
| 04:42.28 | sylvanaar | Shadowed: pong o.O |
| 04:42.43 | Guillotine | | |
| 04:42.44 | sylvanaar | you caught me |
| 04:42.44 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.46 | Imrcly | ~moo |
| 04:42.50 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 04:42.51 | Guillotine | you ruined my pong game :( |
| 04:47.56 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:47.58 | kergoth | ~llamasong |
| 04:47.59 | purl | here's a llama there's a llama and another little llama fuzzy llama funny llama, llama llama duck. llama llama cheesecake llama tablet brick potato llama, llama llama mushroom llama, llama llama duck. i was once a treehouse i lived in a cake but i never saw the way the orange slayed the rake i was only three years dead but it told a tale and now listen, little ... |
| 04:49.21 | Gngsk | ~bootysong? |
| 04:50.03 | Imrcly | ~ultimate |
| 04:50.10 | Imrcly | ~ultimateshowdown |
| 04:50.28 | Corrodias | what am i supposed to change "normaltext" to in frame definitions? |
| 04:51.33 | Corrodias | the WoW patcher deemed it necessary to delete everything in my WoWTest folder when updating to 2.0 live, you see, so i had to restore my "updated addons" from a backup a couple of days old on another drive |
| 04:53.19 | Corrodias | or is normaltext the new one... |
| 05:00.06 | kergoth | ouch, glad i put my wowtest into a seperate dir outside of the live wow dir |
| 05:01.41 | Neuro | hmm, Ford died |
| 05:02.02 | Neuro | though, I'm slightly more upset about James Brown's passing |
| 05:02.31 | Corrodias | i'm more upset that i don't know how to fix this font |
| 05:09.26 | Corrodias | there, got it |
| 05:09.34 | Corrodias | i kept editing my old backup instead of the live copy |
| 05:09.40 | Industrial | morning |
| 05:10.43 | Dezzimal | Neuro: whats more sad, is how many people say "who is james brown?" |
| 05:10.44 | Industrial | bleh servers down |
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| 05:19.56 | Corrodias | strange... someone made a new rewrite of the Aspected addon for 2.0, but Aspected works fine in 2.0 as far as i can tell (though perhaps i had to run it through the Lua updater) |
| 05:20.30 | Industrial | strange isnt it |
| 05:20.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 05:21.10 | Neuro | Anyone know what events are called by Aimed and Auto shot? |
| 05:21.22 | Corrodias | oh, i see, it's the whole secure template thing |
| 05:21.28 | Corrodias | i didn't try it in combat |
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| 05:34.49 | Corrodias | auctioneer isn't ready for 2.0 yet, hmm? well, i can mostly live without it |
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| 05:47.13 | Nom- | *sigh* I need a decent program to keep all my mods updated *cry* |
| 05:47.15 | lectrd | <_< |
| 05:47.15 | lectrd | >_> |
| 05:47.15 | lectrd | Anyone in here? |
| 05:47.16 | Nom- | Just the stealth kittens |
| 05:47.16 | lectrd | *nods* |
| 05:47.16 | MentalPower|PC | gnight guys |
| 05:47.16 | Industrial | Nom-: its called brains |
| 05:47.17 | lectrd | Anyone know of a compilation of the API (Like WoWWiki) that's in a more print friendly format? |
| 05:47.18 | Corrodias | Nom-: what of this? http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 05:47.18 | Nom- | Looks quality |
| 05:47.18 | Nom- | rofl, you guys ever watched Boston Legal? |
| 05:47.18 | Nom- | It's funny as :P |
| 05:47.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | wuu is a pain in the ass currently but it works supposedly once you get it set up |
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| 06:06.57 | Corrodias | clad is such a busy person |
| 06:07.04 | cladhaire | hrm? |
| 06:07.19 | kaiden | bleh kirk screwed up his latest commit of clearfont 2 and he's nowhere to be found :( |
| 06:07.27 | Corrodias | i get a kick out of reading your dire warnings about how busy you are on wowi's Clique and PRaid pages :) |
| 06:07.37 | cladhaire | heh, i am |
| 06:07.40 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 06:08.22 | cladhaire | "Working" 16-18 hours a day, gets tiring.. |
| 06:09.07 | Corrodias | what do you do? |
| 06:09.23 | Corrodias | you've got addon writing, of course... a job, also? |
| 06:09.35 | End-sleep | sleep must not exist |
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| 06:10.52 | cladhaire | yes |
| 06:10.56 | cladhaire | i work 8-10 hours a day |
| 06:11.03 | cladhaire | then come home and code, and do server work |
| 06:11.12 | lectrd | Anyone programmed bossmods with La Vendetta/RDX before? |
| 06:12.33 | cladhaire | nope |
| 06:12.49 | Corrodias | i wonder what la vaendetta/rdx is |
| 06:12.56 | Corrodias | aeaeae |
| 06:13.02 | Corrodias | such horrible typos |
| 06:15.06 | Cairenn | Shadowed: approved |
| 06:15.17 | Shadowed | thanks cair |
| 06:15.29 | Shadowed | have 3 others i'm uploading in a few minutes once i work out how to upload stuff on CG |
| 06:15.38 | Shadowed | the edit page is hiding |
| 06:15.46 | cladhaire | s/edit page/site/ |
| 06:15.47 | lectrd | La Vendetta is a mod which does timers/annoucnes and what not on boss fights |
| 06:16.00 | lectrd | RDX is kinda like a more robust CTRaid |
| 06:16.05 | Shadowed | the sites the easy part, finding the edit one is hard :p |
| 06:16.27 | cladhaire | s/sites/nothing/ s/the edit one/how to do anything/ |
| 06:16.27 | Shadowed | aha! |
| 06:16.33 | Shadowed | found it |
| 06:16.38 | Shadowed | tricky thing is hiding |
| 06:16.47 | Corrodias | so, have all the Alliance healing-priests imploded after 2.0? |
| 06:16.57 | Shadowed | of course not |
| 06:17.26 | Corrodias | i thought half the WoW healers were, to put it lightly, "concerned" about going insane |
| 06:17.36 | Shadowed | nope |
| 06:17.45 | Shadowed | and the world isn't going to end without Decursive either, sapph, noth and chrom are all fine |
| 06:17.55 | AnduinLothar | oh we're not insane. it's quite safe now. the guilds have simply stopped raiding |
| 06:17.59 | Corrodias | what a letdown. |
| 06:18.29 | Shadowed | sapph is only a 12-13 minute fight, so you end up with plenty of extra time even if people let a tick or two get off |
| 06:18.40 | Guillotine | hmm. what do you think of this idea to suggest to slouken: An API function to check if the current account is just WoW or TBC |
| 06:18.43 | Guillotine | makes sence to me |
| 06:18.48 | Guillotine | IsExpansion() |
| 06:19.08 | Iriel | I think you'd need to first come up with a reason why it'd be handy |
| 06:19.08 | Guillotine | I have several |
| 06:19.09 | cladhaire | its already been asked for, with no justification =) |
| 06:19.16 | Iriel | (I'd suggest avoiding PLAYER_MAX_LEVEL as a fixed constant for one) |
| 06:19.27 | Corrodias | i want a function that will force everyone to hallucinate clowns, CLOWNS CLOWNS |
| 06:19.35 | cladhaire | lol |
| 06:19.36 | Corrodias | but i don't think he'd go for it |
| 06:19.38 | Guillotine | a remote ability browser to see what trainers have. if you're not TBC, you can't get those |
| 06:19.57 | Iriel | That may not be such a good reason |
| 06:20.00 | Guillotine | an addon that suggests where to level. that may be different in the high 50s if you haev TBC |
| 06:20.11 | Shadowed | Does the client even know if you're flagged for TBC? I though that the only time it would check if you were flagged or not was entering starting areas |
| 06:20.15 | Iriel | afterall, they dont show you the skills when you're not by the trainer in the standard UI |
| 06:20.20 | cladhaire | From the WoW perspective, they'd want you to see all of that, to encourage you to buy the expansion, if nothing else. |
| 06:20.21 | Shadowed | and outlands |
| 06:20.26 | Guillotine | any addon that has time to level would bug out for non-expansion people at 60 |
| 06:21.13 | Guillotine | also, if you're non-expansion, it still shows the xp bar instead of the rep bar at 60 |
| 06:21.25 | Guillotine | which can't be fixed without that API call |
| 06:21.28 | Iriel | Yeah, that's the only reason I can think of for it |
| 06:21.35 | Iriel | And the base UI should be doing that itself, and it's not |
| 06:21.41 | Guillotine | right |
| 06:21.51 | Corrodias | i'd like it to be known that i like downloading from wowi much more than curse if only for the reason that i don't have to manually rename the file from something stupid to a readable format. |
| 06:22.01 | Guillotine | hmm. do non-expansion 60s get an experience -> gold conversion? |
| 06:22.28 | Iriel | I imagine so |
| 06:22.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I definitely like WoWInterface the best of all the UI sites. I wish so many people didn't release things exclusively on Curse. :/ |
| 06:22.35 | Iriel | anyone on live is a non-expansion 60 right now |
| 06:23.52 | Guillotine | Iriel: but they may change that when expansion comes out |
| 06:24.04 | Iriel | Guillotine: I suppose so, but I doubt it |
| 06:24.08 | Guillotine | Corrodias: what do you mean? Curse doesn't rename files. Its just whatever the user named it |
| 06:24.14 | End-sleep | no it's not |
| 06:24.25 | cladhaire | Guillotine: No, its lik e4-24545-3435-Addon.zip |
| 06:24.29 | Corrodias | 47-21976-druid-bar-3-51.zip |
| 06:24.31 | Guillotine | Iriel: well thats another reason. to see if the person will be getting xp-> gold conversion |
| 06:24.33 | End-sleep | I named it blah-1.2.3.zip and it named it blah-1-2-3.zip |
| 06:24.39 | Corrodias | i really doubt the author named it that |
| 06:24.39 | Bleetah | given the quest xp gold display bug at the moment, I suspect they will continue to give gold coversion |
| 06:24.49 | Guillotine | oh ya, it replaces "." with "-" |
| 06:24.51 | Bleetah | (as they've said it's a display issue in the quest complete) |
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| 06:25.07 | Corrodias | it can be seen especially when things have different names on WoWI and Curse |
| 06:25.07 | Guillotine | but other than that, its just authors with bad naming conventions :P |
| 06:25.32 | cladhaire | the file you download has crap added to the front of it. |
| 06:25.43 | cladhaire | saw that like 10 times tonight as i downloaded from curse |
| 06:25.56 | Corrodias | i'm in the middle of it now |
| 06:26.01 | ZealotOnAStick | they also muck up symbols in filenames. If I released "MyAddon-v1.2.45b" it'd end up something like "47-4756-myaddon-v1-2-45b |
| 06:26.12 | Cairenn | The only time we touch a file on WoWI is if the author has included source code for us to verify, in which case we remove that file from the zip before releasing the zip for download. |
| 06:26.14 | Bleetah | yeah, that's what really turned me off curse to start with... if I download a bunch of addons into one folder, sorting them out into subfolders (authors) or similar is a right nightmare |
| 06:26.36 | Guillotine | hmm. I'll see if theres any way to fix it |
| 06:26.55 | AnduinLothar | lol i already bugged half the curse crew about it |
| 06:27.23 | Guillotine | never noticed it before. I just Open -> extract directly to WoW folder |
| 06:27.31 | Guillotine | don't save zips |
| 06:27.35 | Bleetah | I had guessed it was some unique identifier thing, so authors who upload a mod-3.1 one day, and an updated mod-3.1 the next day, get different filenames pushed out to the peeps who d/l... but never investigated |
| 06:27.52 | Corrodias | you don't save them? no wonder! silly boy. girl. person. |
| 06:27.58 | Bleetah | bot |
| 06:28.02 | Bleetah | ;) j/k |
| 06:29.30 | Guillotine | I am none of the above. I am a device used for carrying out executions by decapitation |
| 06:29.37 | Guillotine | primarily used during the French Revolution |
| 06:29.45 | Guillotine | anyway, I'm off to bed. gn :) |
| 06:29.52 | Cairenn | night Guillotine |
| 06:30.04 | Bleetah | nn mate |
| 06:32.32 | kaiden | gah .. only 21 days |
| 06:32.39 | kaiden | so sick of leveling chars to 60 out of boredom |
| 06:32.40 | Corrodias | eCastingBar has a "focus bar" these days. what's that? |
| 06:32.51 | AnduinLothar | casting bar of your focus |
| 06:33.04 | Bleetah | a number of mods provide the player with info on who sells limited supply stuff. I could see an 'IsExpansion()' being useful for 'Sold by 1 merchant (unavailable)' or similar as being slightly useful. |
| 06:33.47 | Corrodias | ...oh, focus, that's a 2.0 thing, isn't it? |
| 06:33.54 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 06:34.08 | Shadowed | You can do /focus <unit> it basically gives you another unitid called focus to use |
| 06:34.23 | Bleetah | but I guess that can just as easily be achieved through adjusting the lists of stuff |
| 06:34.34 | Bleetah | yeah, try as hard as I can, can't think of a compelling reason ;) |
| 06:34.40 | Shadowed | eg, you can do /focus target, sheep it, change target then do /cast [target=focus] Polymorph to sheep the focused target without changing it |
| 06:35.18 | Arrowmaster | i used to use eCastingBar before i switched to oCB, but with the recent additions it got in 2.0 i wonder why people still use it, so bloated |
| 06:35.44 | AnduinLothar | what you call bloat others call features |
| 06:35.48 | Corrodias | you wonder why they use ecb or ocb? |
| 06:35.58 | Shadowed | If you add to many features that not many people use it's bloated though |
| 06:36.22 | Corrodias | ecb certainly isn't bloated |
| 06:36.26 | Bleetah | and what others call features, I call bugs |
| 06:36.32 | Nom- | anyone found a good macro for making mana gems |
| 06:36.33 | Nom- | ? |
| 06:36.39 | Shadowed | /cast Mana Gem |
| 06:36.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah when theres already so many different enemy casting bar mods out there, why does a self casting bar mod need them |
| 06:36.57 | Nom- | I mean one that will make the set |
| 06:37.05 | Nom- | A single button I can click over and over again to make all 4 gems |
| 06:37.34 | AnduinLothar | not possible anymore afaik |
| 06:37.43 | Arrowmaster | use /castsequence |
| 06:37.58 | AnduinLothar | it doesn't have a HasItem does it? |
| 06:38.08 | Arrowmaster | but i already know youll complain that it doesnt work right |
| 06:38.26 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 06:38.31 | AnduinLothar | you could make it cast them sequentially yes |
| 06:38.47 | Iriel | You could make an addon that does it, as long as you only want to use it out of combat |
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| 06:40.55 | Iriel | sleep time |
| 06:41.04 | Cairenn | night Iriel |
| 06:41.56 | Bleetah | nn iriel |
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| 06:47.06 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:47.45 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 06:50.10 | Shadowed | Cairenn: Mind approving the 3 other addons I uploaded |
| 06:50.17 | Cairenn | Shadowed: already done |
| 06:50.24 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 06:52.08 | Corrodias | she's faster than you can say "hey Cairenn..." |
| 06:52.16 | Industrial | Cairenn: how you doin? :) |
| 06:52.18 | Cairenn | hehe |
| 06:52.24 | Cairenn | doing okay, yourself Industrial? |
| 06:52.26 | Shadowed | I think her browser refreshes the approve screen every few seconds |
| 06:52.31 | Corrodias | Cairenn might just have an RSS feed directly into her brain |
| 06:52.44 | Cairenn | heh, something like that |
| 06:52.51 | Shadowed | maybe she's a robot? |
| 06:52.56 | Industrial | im ok, but ive been at home now for 5 weeks - school is too easy and waiting for a reply from some company to work 2 days int he week |
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| 06:53.04 | Industrial | oh and i have 2 weeks holiday now |
| 06:53.07 | Industrial | lol. |
| 06:53.34 | Bleetah | Cairenn: did you roll a toon on the Ravenholdt realm? I recall bumming around in Tirisfal last night, and seeing someone with a very similar (if not identically) spelt name |
| 06:53.34 | Cairenn | Dolby-wowi has created a nice little tool that refreshes every 60 seconds that lets me know if there are mods in the queue on any of our sites |
| 06:53.42 | cladhaire | zomg i want |
| 06:53.43 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 06:53.44 | Shadowed | nice |
| 06:53.56 | Cairenn | Bleetah: not that I recall |
| 06:54.25 | Bleetah | ah, good that i didn't run up and hug them then hehe |
| 06:54.31 | Cairenn | but I may have at some point and have just forgotten about her |
| 06:54.43 | Cairenn | not me then, I wasn't on |
| 06:54.44 | Bleetah | realm's only 3 weeks old |
| 06:59.12 | Cairenn | cladhaire: lol, good luck, he joked about not giving me access to it because it was the only way he got to approve addons, since I would usually get them approved so fast he never had a chance |
| 06:59.23 | cladhaire | hehehe =) |
| 06:59.29 | Cairenn | now he *really* doesn't get many opportunities |
| 07:00.40 | Corrodias | "any of our sites"? you have mods to approve for other games, or more than one wow addon site? |
| 07:00.58 | Cairenn | we have 4 sites currently, although only 3 of the games are live |
| 07:00.59 | Corrodias | or another option i haven't considered? |
| 07:01.05 | Cairenn | EQ, EQ2, WoW & Vanguard |
| 07:01.17 | Cairenn | and two more in the works |
| 07:01.23 | Cairenn | LOTRO & G&H |
| 07:01.50 | Cairenn | hopefully |
| 07:02.32 | Shadowed | okay maybe trying to update 3 addons on 3 different sites at once was a bad idea |
| 07:03.18 | Cairenn | Corrodias: that's what we keep trying to point out to folks, that they miss all too often |
| 07:03.52 | Cairenn | we've been running mod hosting sites for 5 years now, with a proven track record of *never* having anyone get anything nasty from any of our sites |
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| 07:04.02 | Cairenn | and that's why we know what sort of support mod authors need |
| 07:04.26 | Corrodias | that's why i wear briefs |
| 07:04.31 | cladhaire | i prefer commando |
| 07:04.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:05.32 | Cairenn | it's also why I'm so ... emphatic ... in my support of mod author IP copyright |
| 07:05.56 | Corrodias | Execute: Checkout *wait wait wait* :( |
| 07:06.01 | Cairenn | been dealing with it for 5+ years at this point |
| 07:06.07 | Corrodias | impressive |
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| 07:41.53 | Neuro | btw, just to answer an old question for Arrowmaster, re: Why does a self-casting mod need target casting bars: Because prior to 2.0, the two were essentially different, since the detection methods required totally different code. In 2.0, making an enemy casting bar is identical to making a self-casting bar, just a matter of changing the unit ID you are looking for. |
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| 07:56.27 | Corrodias | so with all this newfangled 2.0 stuff, can we spawn a thread that waits one second and then does something? |
| 07:57.03 | AnduinLothar | sure, tho you have to do the timer yourself |
| 08:01.07 | Corrodias | actually, i remember now how to do what i want... |
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| 08:06.51 | AnduinLothar | so, lotta wardrobe changes. anyone have any suggestions or outstanding bugs before i finalize?> |
| 08:11.11 | Corrodias | looks like i'm going to have to give Grid a try without praid around yet :o |
| 08:11.34 | cladhaire | want the beta |
| 08:11.34 | cladhaire | meh |
| 08:11.37 | cladhaire | depends on what you need it for |
| 08:12.12 | Corrodias | well, the guild wouldn't be raiding for a while yet, with the holiday upon us, and i'd feel poorly motivated with TBC around the corner, so i really don't need a raid interface yet |
| 08:12.23 | [Cu]Werik | Just a sidenote, the European mirrors use the old naming system for files, and the other one in NJ will change as well |
| 08:13.17 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 08:13.18 | Corrodias | although i'm sure i ought to give Grid a try some day when it becomes relevant again. there's no rush for me, though. |
| 08:13.29 | cladhaire | i mean feel free |
| 08:13.31 | cladhaire | hell i've given it a try |
| 08:13.33 | cladhaire | i like that shit |
| 08:15.27 | Industrial | i dont too small |
| 08:15.43 | Industrial | (haha, coming from me) |
| 08:16.05 | Corrodias | jigga wha |
| 08:16.46 | Corrodias | well, now that a lot more of these addons have been updated for 2.0, my attempt to update them is going much more quickly |
| 08:17.15 | AnduinLothar | [Cu]Werik: ban myrtlepinata |
| 08:17.20 | Industrial | I want an editor that looks good, has tabs, nice tree explorer that i can hide(important) |
| 08:17.24 | Industrial | but still work like vim |
| 08:17.25 | Industrial | :P |
| 08:17.27 | AnduinLothar | he's been spamming hack comments |
| 08:17.32 | [Cu]Werik | I cant... |
| 08:17.34 | AnduinLothar | ex: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2183/wardrobe-al/ |
| 08:17.46 | AnduinLothar | what do you mean you cant? |
| 08:17.54 | [Cu]Werik | I mean I can't ban people |
| 08:18.03 | AnduinLothar | so tell someone who can :P |
| 08:18.09 | Corrodias | get the pentagon on the horn! |
| 08:18.26 | ZealotOnAStick | You looking for some solid raiding beta testers for PerfectRaid Cladhaire? |
| 08:18.29 | [Cu]Werik | There is like 3 people who can ban people |
| 08:18.50 | cladhaire | they're the ones who will hurt me the most =) |
| 08:18.52 | cladhaire | but send me an email |
| 08:19.17 | Industrial | waiting for the realms to get onlines sucks |
| 08:19.18 | Industrial | :( |
| 08:19.26 | Industrial | especially when you feel like coding |
| 08:20.07 | Industrial | so i went and did the groceries, cleaned my room, etc - but im done lol |
| 08:20.35 | Industrial | 9:20 am bet id make a good houseman :o |
| 08:21.40 | AnduinLothar | lol, lots of stuff gets done with no wow, eh? |
| 08:21.47 | Industrial | :p |
| 08:21.49 | AnduinLothar | sounds like me when i have hw to do... |
| 08:22.18 | Corrodias | find another game to play, man! |
| 08:23.01 | Industrial | hm you know what i dont like about the web2.0 (excuse my french :P) tags system of finding things? its uncertain that you will find all content. |
| 08:23.10 | Industrial | I do, Half-life:Team Fortress Classic |
| 08:27.11 | Corrodias | curse's search is nigh unto useless. i use google with site:www.curse-gaming.com if i need to find something on there. |
| 08:27.23 | Nom- | anyone know a mod that allows me to put a blank area at the bottom of the screen? |
| 08:27.37 | Cairenn | CT_Viewport |
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| 08:28.13 | Cairenn | Nom-: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3826-CTMod.html |
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| 08:29.36 | ZealotOnAStick | cladhaire: e-mail sent. |
| 08:30.04 | cladhaire | k |
| 08:36.22 | Nom- | not quite what i'm after |
| 08:36.37 | Nom- | I want to draw a transparent box over the viewport |
| 08:37.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Take a look at eePanels perhaps? |
| 08:40.21 | Industrial | Nom-: actually using what cairenn suggested will make you still see 100% of your screen |
| 08:40.36 | Industrial | s/your screen/the world/ |
| 08:41.11 | Industrial | yay my realm is online |
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| 08:55.30 | [Cu]Werik | Industrial, tags are a two edged blade |
| 08:56.26 | [Cu]Werik | It's only useful if people use them actively |
| 09:03.59 | Nom- | hmm k got that sorted |
| 09:04.16 | Nom- | now there's a mod somewhere that lets you move all the mini map icons around, right? |
| 09:05.56 | Cairenn|afk | couple of them |
| 09:06.14 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5367-DetachedMiniMapButtons.html is one |
| 09:06.27 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4269-MobileMinimapButtons.html is another |
| 09:06.40 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5193-JIMsAbacusforMinimap.html |
| 09:07.54 | bleetah | Cairenn|afk: seeing you're not afk, quick mod question (looking for one) |
| 09:08.01 | bleetah | i need a mod to grow the coffee beans, roast them, brew my coffee and put the IV drip in |
| 09:08.02 | Cairenn|afk | ask |
| 09:08.10 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 09:09.08 | bleetah | so yer not this great all knowing mod person then? /cry |
| 09:09.15 | Cairenn|afk | sowwy |
| 09:09.38 | bleetah | i'll just have to go back to blaming Cide for my lack of coffee |
| 09:09.44 | Cairenn|afk | hehe |
| 09:11.53 | [Cu]Werik | Oh by the way |
| 09:12.01 | [Cu]Werik | How did the live maintenance go? |
| 09:12.32 | Corrodias | uh oh. i wonder if my crusty, old version of SCT will work in 2.0 |
| 09:13.09 | bleetah | seemed to go fine, although I did notice some increased latency around the time I thought it was going to happen, I later tracked that down to Azureus going off it's head with many connections (yet no data) getting the patch ;) |
| 09:13.32 | bleetah | beyond that, from a tech point of view, I have no idea. |
| 09:13.47 | [Cu]Werik | I see |
| 09:17.00 | Nom- | awesome :) |
| 09:17.12 | Nom- | only other thing i need...i remember seeing in a few screenshots a mini combat log |
| 09:17.27 | Nom- | any idea what that is? |
| 09:17.41 | Cairenn|afk | HitsMode, Simple Combat Log, Nurfed Combat Log |
| 09:18.30 | Nom- | You guys must have craniums the size of SUV's :P |
| 09:18.39 | MoonWolf | not really.... |
| 09:18.55 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5008-SimpleCombatLog.html |
| 09:20.03 | bleetah | Cairenn|afk: one thing I'd like to see WoWI implement, is a 'licence' indicator in the "Interface Information" section |
| 09:20.24 | bleetah | and, I presume (I've never uploaded so dunno) a method by which authors state what kind of license |
| 09:21.41 | Cairenn|afk | post it in our suggestion forum, that way I won't forget about it |
| 09:21.50 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18 |
| 09:22.25 | bleetah | only problem with that |
| 09:22.35 | bleetah | i need to remember which damned username I registered with hehe |
| 09:22.40 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 09:22.42 | bleetah | (won't take me long to track it down) |
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| 09:25.02 | bleetah | shamelessly and lazily copied the irc text to the post ;) |
| 09:25.09 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 09:25.39 | bleetah | but yeah, it's not only meant as an aide to your users, but to encourage uploaders to think about what kind of license they want |
| 09:25.58 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
| 09:32.28 | bleetah | serious question about a mod... has anyone done a basic paint mod? I could see it being useful in a couple of situations (draw out the battle plan, describe where something is in relation to other objects, drawing male genitalia*) |
| 09:33.06 | bleetah | *a bit obscure, but the first picture done in the Gaim Whiteboard was... yeah, men's bits - on the theory that's all most of our users would use it for and thus we had to test it |
| 09:33.15 | bleetah | heh, kk, gnight :P |
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| 09:49.52 | bleetah | nn clad |
| 09:49.59 | Wobin | bleetah, there's a whiteboard mod somewhere |
| 09:52.32 | bleetah | hmm, using that name I found (what appears to be) an orphaned mod on worldofwar |
| 09:56.08 | bleetah | heh, it seems to 'largely' work (where cases of 'largely' = shows the drawing window, the buttons, the color picker... just errors when trying to paint ;-) ... might be able to hack this up |
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| 10:08.57 | bleetah | works fine, just adjust the for k,v stuff |
| 10:10.52 | Corrodias | WOO HOO i'm almost finished updating my addons |
| 10:11.20 | Corrodias | amazingly, almost all of them have working versions now |
| 10:14.12 | bleetah | ah, it would appear the author's moved on from simple whiteboard, to being able to draw on maps, place markers on the minimap etc. |
| 10:15.04 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 10:15.13 | bleetah | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4088/imba/ |
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| 10:16.03 | TheStig | man Automaton has conflicts with my other ace addons~ |
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| 10:18.13 | TheStig | i just need something simple to block guild invites lol |
| 10:18.32 | nevcairiel | create a dummy guild |
| 10:18.33 | TheStig | but automaton has conflicts with fubar and other ace2 stuff |
| 10:18.41 | TheStig | nah |
| 10:19.12 | TheStig | just need to supress the guild invite box and have it press the decline button while its supressed |
| 10:19.19 | TheStig | maybe i'll look into it |
| 10:19.35 | bleetah | I keep meaning to write my own 'ignore stuff' mod.. guild invites, duel requests, trades, whispers from non-guildies/non-friends with the words 'port' or 'summon' in them, etc. etc. |
| 10:19.51 | TheStig | same |
| 10:19.51 | bleetah | anything in trade without an item link, wts, wtt, wtb in it |
| 10:19.52 | TheStig | i might do that |
| 10:20.05 | TheStig | that'sa great idea |
| 10:20.20 | TheStig | tonight in IF we had a huge fucking "murloc" spamfest for hours |
| 10:20.30 | TheStig | people woudl replace one word in the name of a film with the word murloc |
| 10:20.35 | TheStig | and they would do that for hours and hours |
| 10:20.44 | TheStig | in trade |
| 10:20.47 | TheStig | not general |
| 10:20.49 | TheStig | F-ing trade |
| 10:20.53 | zenzelezz | I remember doing that on another channel with friends once, except we did it with "sheep" |
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| 10:21.03 | weab | DUDE WHERE'S MY MURLOC |
| 10:21.03 | bleetah | trade is the new lfg |
| 10:21.29 | TheStig | trade is the new 12 year olds with nothing better to do |
| 10:21.32 | zenzelezz | my most funny murloc memory would have to be the Onyxia raid where we had a murloc impersonation contest |
| 10:21.41 | TheStig | lol |
| 10:22.33 | TheStig | i have something that blocks trade requests and prevents the AH from closing unless you actually click close or walk out of range |
| 10:22.42 | TheStig | you could modify it to suit your purposes blee |
| 10:23.50 | [Liquidor] | hi |
| 10:23.53 | Industrial | lo |
| 10:23.59 | Industrial | *badoom tisch* |
| 10:24.56 | bleetah | yeah, that's the easy bit.. the tricky one is the 'logic' for the other foo i want to do, queueing messages, 'improved' friends and ignore list with 'autosense' to detect members of your guild's alliances, and some other stuff |
| 10:25.18 | TheStig | yeah i know haha |
| 10:25.20 | Corrodias | anyone who isn't exactly as old as i am is a twit |
| 10:25.28 | TheStig | how old are you Corrodias |
| 10:25.28 | Fumler[N] | wtb ouf :< |
| 10:25.30 | bleetah | (that way, in theory, an *unkown* friend of an allied guild can still whisper you, etc.) |
| 10:25.51 | Corrodias | approximately 28 days from 23 years |
| 10:26.13 | bleetah | a baybeee :P |
| 10:26.16 | TheStig | ahh i'm about 37 days from 24 |
| 10:27.33 | TheStig | i dont want to block whispers at all, just anything in trade chat that doesn't have an item link, wtb,wts, etc. and guild invites |
| 10:28.44 | bleetah | yeah, but *I* wanna do some specific stuff, so I ain't writing anything until I've got a vague notion of what basics I need ;) |
| 10:28.44 | Corrodias | puddin' pops |
| 10:28.44 | TheStig | indeed |
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| 10:44.50 | Corrodias | does WoW 2.0 default UI include the ability to add "notes" to players on your ignore and friends lists? |
| 10:45.31 | Teomyr | no |
| 10:45.57 | Teomyr | that may be ctmod |
| 10:47.05 | bleetah | I think cosmos has one called FriendsFacts |
| 10:47.20 | bleetah | so no, not default, but plenty of mods out there |
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| 10:50.06 | Corrodias | i have two such sets of notes :o |
| 10:51.17 | Corrodias | the first is from AuldLangSyne, but the second has nil for GetName() |
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| 10:55.21 | Corrodias | how do i figure out where it comes from if it has no Name? >_< |
| 10:55.55 | TheStig | wait, what? |
| 10:57.07 | Corrodias | /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() = empty result (nil) |
| 10:57.18 | Corrodias | with my cursor on the button |
| 10:57.39 | TheStig | map button? |
| 10:58.06 | TheStig | err nvm i'm lost and half asleep don't mind me |
| 10:58.08 | Corrodias | no, it's a notes button on my friends list |
| 10:59.02 | nevcairiel | the buttons dont really need a name tho |
| 10:59.08 | nevcairiel | not every frame has one :) |
| 10:59.55 | Corrodias | it somewhat limits my ability to figure out where they came from, at least conveniently |
| 11:01.03 | Corrodias | fortunately for me, Teomyr was correct that it's CT mod... and i don't see an option to turn it off |
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| 11:33.10 | Corrodias | man, those unpopulated areas do have some weird geometry. i'm curious about the map editors the devs use. |
| 11:34.54 | Kemayo | Corrodias: Yeah, CTmod merged playernotes into the core in their latest release. I don't think it's easily turnable off... though I haven't checked. |
| 11:35.19 | Corrodias | ah ha |
| 11:36.23 | phreaky | Hm .. any1 know why /cast Create Spellstone works but not /Cast Create Spellstone (Major) |
| 11:38.49 | Corrodias | what happens... if you remove the space between spellstone and (major)? |
| 11:40.15 | Teomyr | or maybe something like /cast Create Spellstone (Major)(Rank 1) |
| 11:40.29 | Mike-N-Go | WoW has a memory leak :( |
| 11:40.35 | Mike-N-Go | Or it is one of my addons... |
| 11:40.55 | Corrodias | both, possibly. where are you getting the memory usage information? |
| 11:40.55 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone else have this problem? |
| 11:41.05 | Mike-N-Go | I am on a Mac |
| 11:41.15 | Mike-N-Go | I have Activity Monitor |
| 11:41.24 | Mike-N-Go | or top FTW! |
| 11:41.41 | phreaky | Corrodias, Teomyr: None of that works |
| 11:43.10 | Corrodias | i use "slide whistle" for my task management |
| 11:43.49 | Corrodias | that's a jab at linux program names |
| 11:44.12 | Mike-N-Go | Or MB, is GC not happing? |
| 11:44.16 | Mike-N-Go | Could that do it in WoW? |
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| 11:45.36 | Mike-N-Go | Is there a thing that tells you what how much memory is Allocated to said AddOn? |
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| 11:47.08 | YammYgirlcoding | good morning everyone! |
| 11:47.22 | Industrial | lo |
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| 11:47.49 | YammYgirlcoding | I'm looking for onebag's coder. is he on? |
| 11:48.07 | Industrial | YammYgirlcoding: Kaelten |
| 11:48.09 | YammYgirlcoding | or maybe a user |
| 11:48.16 | Industrial | im a user |
| 11:48.19 | Kaelten | Whatever it is I didn't do it |
| 11:48.19 | Mike-N-Go | ~onebag |
| 11:48.27 | YammYgirlcoding | u saw onebags bugs? |
| 11:48.48 | Teomyr | kaelten hangs around in #wowace |
| 11:48.51 | YammYgirlcoding | can't shift click to link items, can't shift to split stacks into smallers. u saw it? |
| 11:48.55 | Kaelten | I hang out here too Teomyr |
| 11:49.04 | Teomyr | huh? |
| 11:49.14 | Industrial | lol :P |
| 11:49.20 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4207-OneBag.html |
| 11:49.24 | Teomyr | oh, sorry, stupid sorting of channel members :P |
| 11:49.29 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 11:49.32 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 11:49.36 | Mike-N-Go | Kaelten is the coder |
| 11:49.39 | YammYgirlcoding | u know if kael has fixed? |
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| 11:49.50 | Fisker- | they were sending shaolin soccer, so i went in to see it just to find out they had voice synced it |
| 11:49.51 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:50.33 | Mike-N-Go | Night, I need sleep! |
| 11:50.46 | Kaelten | YammYgirlcoding: I can split stacks no problem |
| 11:51.07 | YammYgirlcoding | i can't here |
| 11:51.30 | YammYgirlcoding | I can't shift to link items , can't split stacks. |
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| 11:51.49 | YammYgirlcoding | How I debug it to find the problem? |
| 11:51.58 | Kaelten | try reinstalling first |
| 11:52.09 | Kaelten | I can do both no problem |
| 11:52.12 | YammYgirlcoding | u got a new version since patch? |
| 11:52.34 | Kaelten | ods are you either have a bad version of the code or a conflicting addon |
| 11:52.36 | Kaelten | several |
| 11:52.43 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/files/OneBag |
| 11:52.52 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm lets see |
| 11:54.43 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaelten this version. 19304. what i was using. |
| 11:55.17 | YammYgirlcoding | does it need ace1 or ace2? |
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| 12:00.39 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaelten ok. I disabled all addons and let only ace2 and onebag. ok. shift now works. Now I will find out which addon is bugging with onebag. hold on ( it might take a while ) |
| 12:01.38 | Kaelten | YammYgirlcoding: 19304 is a old version. |
| 12:01.46 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/files/OneBag/OneBag-r21897.zip |
| 12:01.48 | Kaelten | try that one |
| 12:02.13 | Industrial | Hear ye! Hear ye! I'm now releasing my addons through http://industrial.solarcombat.net/ ! bookmark it! |
| 12:06.06 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaelten. I installed new version. But will all addons loader, when I shift click, it thinks I want to move the item. dont link, dont split. |
| 12:06.08 | Corrodias | i don't recall reading an easy way to set your focus except through script or macro. is there some default way of clicking on someone to set them as focus? |
| 12:06.19 | Kaelten | hrm yep sounds like a conflict |
| 12:06.20 | YammYgirlcoding | for sure it's an other addon. i will find out. hold on. |
| 12:09.36 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaelten. all functions ace1 used to have, ace2 have? |
| 12:10.42 | Kaelten | Ace2 is not a replacement for Ace1 |
| 12:10.46 | YammYgirlcoding | aha. I think it's ace1 ! i had both |
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| 12:11.00 | YammYgirlcoding | disabled ace1 then it back to work. let me enable all other addons. hold on |
| 12:12.39 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm no. enable all addons and error is back. hold on.. |
| 12:18.52 | YammYgirlcoding | is Ace2 updated too? |
| 12:20.14 | Industrial | update to/for what/ |
| 12:20.54 | YammYgirlcoding | i mean. since patch. has it been updated again? |
| 12:21.15 | Industrial | well ofcource - do you look at the forums or website at all? :> |
| 12:21.32 | YammYgirlcoding | no hehe |
| 12:21.41 | YammYgirlcoding | dont even know where it is =) |
| 12:21.52 | Industrial | .. |
| 12:21.55 | Industrial | wowace.com |
| 12:22.53 | [Liquidor] | How should my sub look like to remove the first word + the space next to of a line? Exmaple: "!Word aaaaa bbbbcccc dddd" |
| 12:24.11 | Industrial | YammYgirlcoding: :> |
| 12:26.06 | Industrial | [Liquidor]: I dont think theres something that denotes a word specifically so "%w+ " or something |
| 12:26.09 | Industrial | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 12:26.16 | [Liquidor] | Well the thing is |
| 12:26.59 | [Liquidor] | My bot executes on !commands but in some commands I need the text afterwards which means I need to filter out the !command |
| 12:27.25 | [Liquidor] | you get me? "!command text" arg1 = "!command text" where I need arg1 to be "text" |
| 12:27.45 | Industrial | right |
| 12:28.25 | Industrial | so "!command (.+)" |
| 12:28.49 | [Liquidor] | simple as that? |
| 12:29.14 | Industrial | any character one or more times captured |
| 12:29.42 | [Liquidor] | but which function should I be using? Must admit, I got a problem determine which one to use between match, find, gsub, sub, gmatch,gfind etc |
| 12:30.35 | Industrial | im not sure so im digging it up :D sec |
| 12:31.03 | [Liquidor] | :) |
| 12:31.52 | YammYgirlcoding | Kaelten. I found the conflict addon: Igor mass auction |
| 12:32.07 | YammYgirlcoding | how can I debug to see where in code it's conflicting? |
| 12:33.31 | Industrial | str='!cmd arg1 arg2' _, _, args=string.find(str, '!cmd (.+)') |
| 12:33.39 | Kaelten | its going to have something to do with Container functions most likely |
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| 12:33.52 | Industrial | [Liquidor]: that should work I think |
| 12:34.07 | YammYgirlcoding | which function could be handling the shift click ? |
| 12:34.28 | YammYgirlcoding | i guess u both use the same function. |
| 12:34.29 | YammYgirlcoding | right? |
| 12:34.53 | [Liquidor] | Industrial: ill test it right away |
| 12:34.56 | Kaelten | most likely |
| 12:35.20 | [Liquidor] | Industrial: something's missing |
| 12:35.31 | [Liquidor] | Industrial: !cmd is a fixed value |
| 12:35.59 | [Liquidor] | Only the ! sign is fixed, the command is unknown |
| 12:36.08 | YammYgirlcoding | and what the shift function handler looks like? |
| 12:36.39 | Kaelten | its hard ot say for sure |
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| 12:37.40 | YammYgirlcoding | should I ask igor to see? |
| 12:38.01 | YammYgirlcoding | cause u are not likely to help me on it... |
| 12:38.30 | Kaelten | I think its Container_OnClick or something of that nature |
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| 12:39.48 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm -- Handles the draggin of items |
| 12:39.48 | YammYgirlcoding | function IMA_ItemButton_OnClick(button) |
| 12:39.48 | YammYgirlcoding | if ( not button ) then |
| 12:39.48 | YammYgirlcoding | button = this; |
| 12:39.48 | YammYgirlcoding | end |
| 12:39.54 | YammYgirlcoding | this ? |
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| 12:47.12 | YammYgirlcoding | fine! it was a bug in igors addon. =) |
| 12:47.21 | VoidRaider|afk | Does LUA uses a different scope for locals and globals ? if I was to declare a variable called 'foo' and 'local foo' that I declared at the top of my file, would the global 'foo' override 'local foo' ? |
| 12:47.54 | VoidRaider|afk | it makes sense in a way but well, what do you think would happen ? |
| 12:48.03 | YammYgirlcoding | i think it would error |
| 12:48.03 | Industrial | VoidRaider|afk: pastey.net |
| 12:48.06 | nevcairiel | the local has priority |
| 12:48.32 | YammYgirlcoding | we can have 2 variables with the same name like this in lua? |
| 12:48.35 | nevcairiel | foo = "bar"; local foo = "bar2"; print(foo) == "bar2" |
| 12:48.52 | VoidRaider | ohh, that's great thing then! :P |
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| 12:49.09 | YammYgirlcoding | wow that's a huge entrance way for bugs =) |
| 12:49.20 | Industrial | but if you use the same thing twice its bound to not do the same thing - so you can name them differently |
| 12:50.22 | foxlit | VoidRaider|afk: yes. |
| 12:50.24 | YammYgirlcoding | that's much more sensate =) |
| 12:50.27 | foxlit | moreover, |
| 12:50.32 | VoidRaider | I asked that because I was afraid from conflicts of different addons :) |
| 12:50.55 | Industrial | VoidRaider: thats why generally I put things in my addon table |
| 12:50.58 | foxlit | local foo = "bar"; print(foo) for i=1,10 do local foo="bar" .. i; end print(foo); |
| 12:51.02 | foxlit | would give you foo foo |
| 12:51.17 | Industrial | idAddon={} idAddon.player = CreateFrame() whatever etc |
| 12:51.39 | foxlit | Prefixing is usually good enough |
| 12:51.57 | foxlit | (er, bar bar, but who cares) |
| 12:52.18 | Industrial | foxlit: yeah but I can use eg self[unit] now :P |
| 12:52.35 | VoidRaider | Yeah, I have a namespace used in my addon, but I don't want to use it for my locals |
| 12:52.46 | Industrial | _G['idAddon_'..unit] i know but thats just ugly |
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| 12:54.00 | VoidRaider | Now if locals are prioritized then why should I use a namespace ? or it still can cause a conflict between two locals of different addons Oo ? |
| 12:54.18 | Industrial | preference |
| 12:54.34 | foxlit | matter of opinion; can't be. |
| 12:55.26 | Industrial | a={} function a:b() end function a:c() self:b() end |
| 12:55.30 | Industrial | I like using self |
| 12:55.50 | VoidRaider | :D |
| 13:03.17 | VoidRaider | Damn it's so cold in israel :| |
| 13:03.32 | YammYgirlcoding | are u in israel ? i got relatives there |
| 13:03.39 | VoidRaider | Yeah I am :) |
| 13:03.47 | YammYgirlcoding | u guys have white pages? |
| 13:04.04 | VoidRaider | Yeah |
| 13:04.06 | YammYgirlcoding | i was always curious of how many relatives i have there with my name =) |
| 13:04.12 | VoidRaider | hahaha |
| 13:04.20 | YammYgirlcoding | here there is only 2 families on the whole country. |
| 13:04.28 | VoidRaider | What's your name ? |
| 13:04.32 | YammYgirlcoding | hanan |
| 13:04.37 | VoidRaider | ahh :P |
| 13:05.00 | VoidRaider | Where do you live atm ? |
| 13:05.07 | YammYgirlcoding | brasil |
| 13:05.12 | VoidRaider | ahh :D |
| 13:05.15 | VoidRaider | nice ^^ |
| 13:05.24 | YammYgirlcoding | prety big country. and almost none of us here |
| 13:05.30 | YammYgirlcoding | i think they are all in israel |
| 13:05.34 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 13:06.02 | YammYgirlcoding | my grandpa and grandma fled here to escape from war, and met here. go figure! |
| 13:06.12 | VoidRaider | haha |
| 13:06.16 | VoidRaider | I don't like israel much, special the government :P |
| 13:06.33 | YammYgirlcoding | i imagine |
| 13:06.46 | YammYgirlcoding | that culture is pretty odd |
| 13:07.37 | VoidRaider | Well the people are warm and cool but the government, oh my god, worst ever, they barely know how to handle a war :/ |
| 13:07.38 | YammYgirlcoding | if u see some relatives of mine in white pages, let me know how many they are =) |
| 13:07.48 | VoidRaider | sure :) |
| 13:08.52 | VoidRaider | I like the old israel of 5 years ago, now it's all ruined by immoral people who all they care is money |
| 13:09.39 | YammYgirlcoding | that sux |
| 13:09.46 | VoidRaider | yeah :/ |
| 13:10.04 | YammYgirlcoding | imagine. my ancestors lef this country like 100 years ago, and they are still on war! |
| 13:10.19 | VoidRaider | yup |
| 13:10.26 | YammYgirlcoding | its like an endless AV ! |
| 13:10.33 | YammYgirlcoding | nobody moves |
| 13:10.34 | VoidRaider | hahaha |
| 13:10.39 | YammYgirlcoding | from the bridge |
| 13:10.43 | VoidRaider | :P |
| 13:12.00 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm another existencial question. i have 60 chars: rogue assass, druid feral, shaman resto, lock demon. which one is better to farm mobs? |
| 13:12.03 | VoidRaider | Hope it will end soon, I believe though I know it won't end until something big will happen, I wait for it |
| 13:12.26 | YammYgirlcoding | bring a big bomb to kill everybody. then it will end for sure |
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| 13:12.58 | Industrial | Is there A tool with wich I can inspect events? I want to know all args etc (but not every event so it floods the crap out of my client when im in combat) |
| 13:13.03 | VoidRaider | bombs are useless, I wait for war and I want to kill them face versus face :) |
| 13:13.04 | YammYgirlcoding | i need to grind for cenarion revered for druid |
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| 13:13.36 | VoidRaider | Bombs can kill innocents people :) |
| 13:13.49 | YammYgirlcoding | Industrial maybe disabling some SCT options in wow interface? |
| 13:14.06 | YammYgirlcoding | so which char 60 would u guys pick? |
| 13:14.22 | VoidRaider | Hunter but I'm addicted to the class so :P |
| 13:14.31 | VoidRaider | I have like 6 hunters :P |
| 13:14.34 | YammYgirlcoding | i have hunter 46. not 60 yet |
| 13:14.37 | Industrial | hunter, warrior or priest |
| 13:14.54 | YammYgirlcoding | i mean from the list i said i have =) lock, shaman, druid, rogue. |
| 13:15.06 | VoidRaider | Lock |
| 13:15.11 | Industrial | for, pvp? |
| 13:15.17 | VoidRaider | grinding |
| 13:15.18 | YammYgirlcoding | to grind cenarion mobs |
| 13:15.25 | VoidRaider | Lock or Rogue |
| 13:15.28 | YammYgirlcoding | i need like 1400 texts |
| 13:15.30 | Industrial | --^ |
| 13:15.49 | VoidRaider | I would go with the rogue tbh, how is your gear though ? |
| 13:16.26 | YammYgirlcoding | rogue's is the worse gear of them. then druid, then lock, then shaman with the best , but it's full resto. |
| 13:16.34 | VoidRaider | lock :D |
| 13:17.14 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm |
| 13:17.20 | Industrial | gogo demonology |
| 13:17.21 | YammYgirlcoding | i will try then with the lock |
| 13:17.23 | VoidRaider | druid is good but I never played a one to actually have a clue :D |
| 13:17.41 | Industrial | i havent seen alot of good druid in pvp |
| 13:17.54 | YammYgirlcoding | cause balance sux. |
| 13:18.07 | Industrial | I met one she destroyed my priest |
| 13:18.10 | Industrial | at lv 30 |
| 13:18.30 | YammYgirlcoding | long time ago druids were good |
| 13:18.41 | YammYgirlcoding | now it's even worse than shaman |
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| 13:18.45 | Industrial | she kept running away and rooting me |
| 13:19.05 | Industrial | even after i mana burned 100% of her mana she just rooted and regenned some and blasted me more |
| 13:19.11 | YammYgirlcoding | ah depend on what u are. a rogue kills me in 1 second. |
| 13:19.24 | Industrial | shadowpriest :P |
| 13:19.42 | YammYgirlcoding | aah. hmm maybe druids are counters. but wins the one with more mana |
| 13:20.10 | VoidRaider | Well tbh If you have the gear, talents and such I believe the player is making the class good or worst, I played several classes and I really don't understand why people complain :P |
| 13:20.24 | YammYgirlcoding | i've seen a shaman x druid fight. it took like 10 minutes and both kept full life for ever.. nobody wins.. |
| 13:21.00 | Industrial | pvp is all about burst damage |
| 13:21.08 | VoidRaider | not really... |
| 13:21.14 | Industrial | how so |
| 13:21.25 | VoidRaider | CC counts as burst damage ? |
| 13:21.31 | Industrial | if you are warrior and crit 70% off of someone and you hit them again while they heal you win |
| 13:21.37 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 13:21.59 | VoidRaider | Try a mage against rank 14 war |
| 13:22.02 | YammYgirlcoding | i still thinks the winner will always be the one who came first and quietly... |
| 13:22.27 | VoidRaider | If you can't touch the class you can't do any damage to it |
| 13:22.39 | YammYgirlcoding | by the 0.7 second u took to reach to the gank, your life is 50% off |
| 13:22.49 | YammYgirlcoding | react* |
| 13:23.15 | VoidRaider | I really believe that each of the classes have its advantages, people just play for damage and can't see their class potential ... |
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| 13:24.01 | YammYgirlcoding | i'm afraid of what is going to happen when people have 70s... they already gank people 30 lvs above. imagine on 70... |
| 13:24.12 | YammYgirlcoding | nobody will ever quest anymore |
| 13:24.20 | VoidRaider | haha :P |
| 13:25.07 | YammYgirlcoding | and those people who wont buy the expansion. what they will do ? |
| 13:25.15 | Industrial | die. |
| 13:25.19 | VoidRaider | Well tbh I like to be ganked and gank others it's part of the game on the PvP realms :) |
| 13:25.20 | YammYgirlcoding | lol |
| 13:25.31 | Industrial | i dont like to be ganked when im leveling |
| 13:25.33 | YammYgirlcoding | ash nobody like to be ganked =) |
| 13:25.41 | VoidRaider | haha |
| 13:25.50 | YammYgirlcoding | ya! it sux to be ganking while farming mobs |
| 13:25.58 | Industrial | i do quests :p |
| 13:26.03 | VoidRaider | :P |
| 13:26.10 | YammYgirlcoding | quests asks to farm mobs too =) |
| 13:26.30 | Industrial | Is there A tool with wich I can inspect events? I want to know all args etc (but not every event so it floods the crap out of my client when im in combat) |
| 13:27.34 | VoidRaider | What events do you want to inspect ? :D |
| 13:27.59 | Industrial | mostly UNIT_ events |
| 13:28.04 | Industrial | and party and combat |
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| 13:36.11 | VoidRaider | It seems that there some addons that can track the events but still lack of their args information :| |
| 13:37.25 | Industrial | DevTools does it nicely - found it |
| 13:37.32 | VoidRaider | ah :P |
| 13:37.50 | VoidRaider | it supplies you the args too ? |
| 13:38.00 | Industrial | yes |
| 13:38.13 | VoidRaider | ahh wonderful I guess I'll download it too :) |
| 13:38.35 | VoidRaider | can you give me the link mate :D |
| 13:38.47 | Industrial | wowinterface.com |
| 13:38.48 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:38.51 | VoidRaider | haha |
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| 13:39.19 | VoidRaider | ah great! :D |
| 13:40.22 | VoidRaider | wow nice addon, he made :) |
| 13:46.13 | |Shadow| | is there a addon to improve your in game guild roster? |
| 13:46.17 | |Shadow| | so you can search the list etc? |
| 13:50.00 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/4038 |
| 13:50.07 | Industrial | Need some help with my StatusBar frames |
| 13:50.21 | Industrial | these are my unitframes, but my StatusBar's hp and mp wont show |
| 13:50.31 | Industrial | hp.val dna mp.val do |
| 13:52.51 | Industrial | even when i /script idUnitframes.player.hp:SetMinMaxValues(0, 100) idUnitframes.player.hp:SetValue(100) |
| 13:52.54 | Industrial | it doesnt show |
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| 13:54.03 | VoidRaider | Only the values aren't shown or the whole frame ? |
| 13:55.00 | Industrial | the frame is shown but i dont see it |
| 13:55.00 | Industrial | devtools mouseover sees it |
| 13:55.04 | Industrial | and the value text is there |
| 13:55.05 | foxlit | texture issues? |
| 13:55.56 | Industrial | maybe, I did give it a texture |
| 13:56.09 | Industrial | hp:SetStatusBarTexture('Interface\TargetingFrame\UI-StatusBar') |
| 13:56.16 | Industrial | thats the one bliz uses |
| 13:56.34 | foxlit | Hm, you only need to escape \ if you use double quotes? |
| 13:56.41 | Industrial | its the bottom black ones, http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5408/wowscrnshot122706145515xi1.jpg |
| 13:57.00 | foxlit | (it's that way in php, but I've never read the lua docs about that) |
| 13:57.19 | Industrial | foxlit: you win, fucken ace :P |
| 13:57.25 | Industrial | had to escape the \ |
| 13:57.57 | VoidRaider | ah haha :D |
| 14:01.34 | VoidRaider | I think that it's possible to use / instead of \\ but not sure, I think I done it once :P |
| 14:01.43 | foxlit | Fear the mess of my unitframes: v |
| 14:01.49 | foxlit | http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4302/xfgn0.png |
| 14:02.13 | VoidRaider | haha nice :D |
| 14:02.57 | VoidRaider | I actually think to take ag unitframes and build a none-dynamic one for my own needs :D |
| 14:03.19 | foxlit | Just need to work spellcasting into mine |
| 14:03.23 | VoidRaider | less bugs and lightweight :P |
| 14:03.27 | foxlit | Think I'll replace the manabar when the target is casting |
| 14:05.16 | VoidRaider | btw, I'm looking a for a tooltip, I used Tinytip is it still under development ? |
| 14:08.16 | foxlit | Warlock fear is so imba it disconencts me from the server :/ |
| 14:08.24 | Industrial | where do i get the RGB values for green red yellow blue etc used by blizzard? |
| 14:08.26 | VoidRaider | haha |
| 14:08.41 | foxlit | fonts.xml |
| 14:09.55 | Industrial | ah thanks |
| 14:10.57 | VoidRaider | but they use intergers mostly, so yellow would be (1, 1, 0, 0) while green would be (0, 1, 0, 0) etc ... |
| 14:11.21 | VoidRaider | alpha 1 though haha :P |
| 14:13.40 | Industrial | um yeah you also use integers with SetStatusBarColor and SerBackdropColor etc |
| 14:13.44 | Industrial | numbers* |
| 14:13.47 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 14:14.39 | VoidRaider | haha |
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| 14:33.22 | Industrial | http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3190/wowscrnshot122706153218hs4.jpg |
| 14:33.28 | Industrial | starting to look like a unitframe |
| 14:33.28 | Industrial | :) |
| 14:34.32 | zenzelezz | =) |
| 14:35.43 | nevcairiel | its looks like agUF with ABF skin |
| 14:40.01 | [Cu]Werik | :o |
| 14:41.04 | [Cu]Werik | I thought you wanted to put the health and mana bars next to each other |
| 14:41.44 | Industrial | meh im experimenting - ive had that for 6 months now |
| 14:41.56 | Industrial | added a petframe - 3 lines of code - http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/3962/wowscrnshot122706153932br5.jpg |
| 14:44.41 | foxlit | targettarget? |
| 14:47.21 | VoidRaider | Nice Ind :) |
| 14:48.19 | VoidRaider | Do you plan to release it ? |
| 14:49.09 | VoidRaider | Since I want to start a unit frame similar to ag too without all the fancy haha :) |
| 14:49.44 | |Shadow| | is there a addon to improve your in game guild roster so you can search for members etc? |
| 14:49.59 | |Shadow| | i found a mod that allows you to search your tradeskill window but nothing for guild :( |
| 14:50.10 | Industrial | VoidRaider: yeah |
| 14:50.21 | Industrial | http://industrial.solarcombat.net/ |
| 14:50.21 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:50.24 | VoidRaider | Ahh great! mate :D |
| 14:51.16 | VoidRaider | That would be helpful :) |
| 14:54.35 | VoidRaider | Hmm would I able to change the skin ? I want it to be similar to this http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=agufic0.jpg |
| 14:55.55 | Industrial | faily easy yes |
| 14:56.00 | Industrial | no xp bar tho |
| 14:56.07 | VoidRaider | there no need haha |
| 14:56.24 | VoidRaider | Great mate then keep up the good work and let me know :)) |
| 14:56.31 | Industrial | yupyup |
| 14:57.34 | VoidRaider | Hmm actually I need to include this aguf skin to my addon :P |
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| 15:11.19 | foxlit | "Your Bash was resisted by Glanex" I thought Bash was physical? |
| 15:11.29 | shortman792 | howdy |
| 15:11.42 | shortman792 | i've got a simple question can anyone help me? |
| 15:11.47 | shortman792 | where do i put mods |
| 15:11.53 | shortman792 | for wow |
| 15:12.12 | VoidRaider | Interface\Addons |
| 15:13.23 | shortman792 | k i wanted to make sure ^^ |
| 15:13.24 | shortman792 | ty |
| 15:13.35 | VoidRaider | np :) |
| 15:14.11 | shortman792 | are there any paticular mods that are helpful? |
| 15:14.20 | zenzelezz | ambiguous question |
| 15:14.22 | shortman792 | i got the damage meter |
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| 15:16.13 | cogwheel | shortman792: it's kind of like asking "Are there any particular tools I should own?" I could tell you "hammers" but if you have no need to bash things it would be basically meaningless... |
| 15:16.28 | shortman792 | ok let me rephrase |
| 15:16.29 | TS|Skrom_ | who wouldn't bash things though |
| 15:16.39 | VoidRaider | Well tbh, any mod can help you it depends on what you're looking for and why, I guess every mod has its advantages against one and vice-versa :P |
| 15:16.40 | TS|Skrom_ | I mean given the opportunity |
| 15:16.52 | shortman792 | any paticular mods that you like alot? or think you enjoy the most |
| 15:17.10 | zenzelezz | still doesn't tell us what you're looking for |
| 15:17.21 | foxlit | Get Automootic |
| 15:17.34 | foxlit | It's the answer to all life's problems :P |
| 15:17.50 | shortman792 | whats the name of the mod with enemy cast bars |
| 15:17.55 | VoidRaider | Atlas, SCT, Some FuBar addons and my own ones lol :P |
| 15:18.19 | VoidRaider | try mine |
| 15:18.20 | VoidRaider | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3677 |
| 15:19.52 | VoidRaider | It's an addon that includes everything from CastingBar to Spell Timers and still under development ofc :) |
| 15:20.20 | shortman792 | well does it have the enemy's cast bar? |
| 15:20.24 | VoidRaider | yup |
| 15:20.28 | shortman792 | k |
| 15:20.32 | shortman792 | ty |
| 15:20.34 | foxlit | blizzard ui has the enemy's castbar too :/ |
| 15:20.38 | shortman792 | does it? |
| 15:20.39 | VoidRaider | it even has a focus enemy castingbar :P |
| 15:20.53 | foxlit | Yes. Interface options -> Show enemy cast bars |
| 15:21.04 | VoidRaider | yeah well it's not configurable as mine :) |
| 15:21.40 | foxlit | True, true. |
| 15:21.45 | VoidRaider | ^^ |
| 15:22.20 | amro | and it only shows spells |
| 15:22.24 | amro | does yours show debuffs? |
| 15:22.29 | VoidRaider | ofc |
| 15:22.55 | amro | i was disappointed when I realized blizzard's doesn't show them |
| 15:22.57 | VoidRaider | it has a very massive data files http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3682 |
| 15:22.59 | amro | esp when playing a lock :) |
| 15:23.23 | zenzelezz | what do you mean it doesn't show debuffs? |
| 15:23.31 | VoidRaider | That I built and someone else maintenance it |
| 15:23.59 | VoidRaider | I guess he means to Spell Timers |
| 15:24.14 | VoidRaider | he meant* |
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| 15:29.14 | amro | zenzelezz: i mean showing the debuffs left on the target as timers (frost nova, chilled, immolation, etc) |
| 15:30.18 | zenzelezz | aha... well, I would hardly relate that to enemy cast bars |
| 15:30.23 | VoidRaider | Yeah, but that's not what the Enemy castingbat for |
| 15:30.26 | VoidRaider | yup :) |
| 15:30.35 | VoidRaider | castingbar* |
| 15:31.19 | VoidRaider | amro try SpellMaster, it has all that and much more :) |
| 15:31.31 | |Shadow| | is there any addon to stop the raid group spam when you switch battlegrounds? |
| 15:31.57 | Imrcly | you can turn that off in the chat options i think |
| 15:34.12 | Dezzimal | uh, general WoW question |
| 15:34.17 | Dezzimal | are redridge guards lv65? |
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| 15:36.51 | Industrial | VoidRaider: http://industrial.solarcombat.net/viewtopic.php?pid=10#p10\ |
| 15:36.53 | Industrial | VoidRaider: http://industrial.solarcombat.net/viewtopic.php?pid=10#p10 |
| 15:38.07 | Industrial | I should add a focus frame too |
| 15:38.16 | Industrial | should i put it under the target or above the player |
| 15:38.41 | |Shadow| | ok :P |
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| 15:39.24 | VoidRaider | hmm I usually put it under the player frame but that's only my taste :P |
| 15:39.47 | VoidRaider | it look awesome though :)) |
| 15:39.58 | Industrial | :D |
| 15:41.42 | VoidRaider | Do you have party frames ? :) |
| 15:42.25 | Industrial | not yet but easily done |
| 15:42.34 | VoidRaider | great! :) |
| 15:43.28 | VoidRaider | btw Ind do you use any special tooltip ? I'm looking for one with no luck :( |
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| 15:44.41 | VoidRaider | I will end up coding all my UI from scratch haha I still need a good tooltip addon, and a bar frame :P |
| 15:44.45 | amro | zenzeless: the ecb mod i was using before had that |
| 15:45.17 | zenzelezz | amro: doesn't matter, timers on debuffs are still not related to casting bars ;-p |
| 15:45.35 | amro | that doesn't matter, i was still disappointed :P |
| 15:46.02 | VoidRaider | ecb had debuffs tracking ? hmm are you sure ? |
| 15:46.16 | zenzelezz | amro: that's valid enough ;) |
| 15:48.09 | Industrial | VoidRaider: well i have idActionbar but it has no paging |
| 15:49.21 | VoidRaider | oh :| I want something similar to Telo's BottomBar |
| 15:49.49 | VoidRaider | Well it |
| 15:50.31 | VoidRaider | it's good you saved me some work as well as to others and mainly for yourself :) |
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| 15:50.53 | VoidRaider | I guess I' |
| 15:50.58 | VoidRaider | god this keyboard :P |
| 15:51.31 | VoidRaider | I guess I'll do something similar to TinyTip and Telo's BottomBar on my own |
| 15:51.42 | Industrial | :) |
| 15:51.47 | VoidRaider | ^^ |
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| 16:05.10 | amro | VoidRaider: yeah, it had a whole lot of options, and class specific options |
| 16:05.19 | amro | it was pretty neat |
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| 16:09.14 | |Shadow| | anyone bored and want to make me a forum sig? :D |
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| 16:14.36 | zenzelezz | now that's nice and honest... |
| 16:14.58 | zenzelezz | [2. Trade] [...]: Saving up for an epic mount, WTS [Totem of the Storm], i'm only 800g short, please offer madly |
| 16:15.20 | Industrial | |Shadow|: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3951/untitledrk5.png |
| 16:15.36 | Industrial | hand painted just for you |
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| 16:17.00 | Mikma | meh |
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| 16:18.57 | Bouvi | Quick question. Is there a way for a sound or splash screen to display when a mining or herb node appears on your minimap? |
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| 16:20.08 | MentalPower|PC | theres a hack to do it, theres an addon that implements the hack |
| 16:20.34 | Bouvi | Should be a way to do it without the hack. |
| 16:21.12 | Bouvi | If the node appearing on your minimap can be referenced the rest is pie |
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| 16:21.47 | MentalPower|PC | trust me, theres only one way to do it, I'm trying to find the addon on WoWI |
| 16:22.18 | Bouvi | With an illegal hack? |
| 16:22.20 | Gngsk | didn't tain write it? |
| 16:22.30 | Gngsk | what it did was move the minimap underneath your cursor every so often |
| 16:23.23 | Gngsk | http://tain.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4361 |
| 16:24.31 | Bouvi | Well that is yuk lol |
| 16:24.39 | Gngsk | yea, and it's not been updated |
| 16:24.57 | Gngsk | MentalPower|PC, is that the one you were referring to? |
| 16:25.08 | Bouvi | He got knocked offline |
| 16:25.27 | Gngsk | ahh right |
| 16:25.30 | Gngsk | silly me |
| 16:27.50 | Bouvi | Trying to figure out something cool yet easy for my first addon lol |
| 16:28.42 | Gngsk | hello world spam |
| 16:29.42 | MentalPower|PC | Bouvi: you misinterpreted the word hack |
| 16:30.01 | Bouvi | Ahhh whoops. :) |
| 16:30.03 | MentalPower|PC | hack as in "ugly way to do it" |
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| 16:30.55 | Bouvi | Did the hello world one. Need something complicated lol |
| 16:31.11 | Bouvi | Well more complicated. But not much |
| 16:31.28 | foxlit | Bouvi: front end for sorted player-value data |
| 16:31.47 | Bouvi | English lol |
| 16:32.33 | amro | MentalPower: or a quick and easy way to do it :) |
| 16:32.44 | Gngsk | more like the only way possible to do it |
| 16:33.23 | foxlit | Somewhat like a pluggable damagemeters interface. |
| 16:34.27 | Bouvi | Sounds a little more complicated then my first attempt. |
| 16:35.40 | foxlit | Depends on what you want to get more experience in, really. |
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| 16:39.29 | Bouvi | BFast is ready got to run. Catch you all later. |
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| 16:52.29 | |Shadow| | yay, coded my new anti spam for IRC :) |
| 16:53.40 | End | ~spam |
| 16:53.42 | purl | ACTION sings, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Wonderfull spam! |
| 16:53.49 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 16:53.55 | |Shadow| | End the bots use private messageing xD |
| 16:54.20 | |Shadow| | try messageing me, you'll be farmed by my new anti spam :) |
| 16:55.01 | End | really, I've never had issues with bots |
| 16:55.18 | |Shadow| | End yea, i like to be on dalnet though |
| 16:55.23 | |Shadow| | loooooads of bots on dalnet :( |
| 16:55.27 | End | ahh |
| 16:56.02 | End | this is the only irc network I vist for the most part |
| 16:56.30 | |Shadow| | :) |
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| 17:00.54 | decaprime | argh... for the love of god I need help! |
| 17:01.35 | decaprime | any friendly debunkers available? |
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| 17:02.10 | Industrial | http://industrial.solarcombat.net/viewtopic.php?pid=11#p11 |
| 17:02.37 | VoidRaider | :D |
| 17:02.44 | VoidRaider | Wonderful ^^ |
| 17:02.44 | Industrial | still need auras/buffs |
| 17:02.53 | Industrial | and clickcasting |
| 17:03.01 | VoidRaider | yeah :P |
| 17:03.08 | VoidRaider | But it looks really great :) |
| 17:03.18 | decaprime | Everytime I change stance (it seems atleast) my toggle variable, just enable=0 gets set enabled |
| 17:03.27 | decaprime | and only place I have it enabling is when I type /bm record |
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| 17:07.16 | Industrial | Question: How do I keep TargetFrame and PartyMemberFrame1-4 hidden? they keep showing |
| 17:07.34 | Industrial | I bet I cant do TargetFrame.Show = function() end |
| 17:09.43 | End | You could |
| 17:09.49 | End | but that might be a bad idea :P |
| 17:11.19 | Industrial | why |
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| 17:15.23 | VoidRaider | Can't you use the events or, you refer to something else :) |
| 17:16.44 | Industrial | VoidRaider: they keep popping up after you hide them |
| 17:16.52 | Industrial | I want to ban them forever cause i have my own frames |
| 17:16.54 | Industrial | :D |
| 17:16.59 | VoidRaider | hmm :P |
| 17:17.40 | zenzelezz | do they pop up in response to some event(s)? |
| 17:18.02 | VoidRaider | I guess you can you a listner, some update routine that checks their state and block them from showing up ? |
| 17:18.12 | VoidRaider | can use a* |
| 17:18.18 | VoidRaider | listener* |
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| 17:19.29 | foxlit | Industrail: kill event handlers |
| 17:19.30 | JoshBork1 | morning |
| 17:19.44 | amro | morning |
| 17:19.46 | amro | http://xkcd.com/c202.html |
| 17:19.46 | VoidRaider | morning :D |
| 17:19.57 | foxlit | TargetFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", function() end); |
| 17:20.11 | foxlit | effectively gets rid of the targetframe. |
| 17:20.35 | foxlit | As for Party1-4, tell me when you find out |
| 17:20.36 | VoidRaider | but then he would have to register them again each time ? oh well I guess it will do :) |
| 17:21.05 | Industrial | I found my way alot easier :S |
| 17:21.14 | foxlit | What did you do now? |
| 17:21.19 | VoidRaider | lol :P |
| 17:21.36 | Industrial | TargetFrame.Show = function() end |
| 17:21.38 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 17:21.53 | foxlit | But then you still get all that update-the-frames-that-aren't-used-on-events crap |
| 17:24.15 | decaprime | my god... this is really confusing... does lua just instance all functions with no regard for variables or what |
| 17:24.31 | amro | instance? |
| 17:24.35 | decaprime | yah |
| 17:24.37 | decaprime | like if I had |
| 17:24.53 | decaprime | if(enabled==1) then enabled=0 end |
| 17:24.54 | |Shadow| | ~automootic |
| 17:24.56 | purl | /moo at all tauren you mouseover! (Only works well for alliance). Available at http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/5591/automootic/ |
| 17:24.58 | |Shadow| | :P |
| 17:25.03 | decaprime | that should only fire once right... but like it fires multiple times |
| 17:25.16 | decaprime | even though after it executes once it shouldnt execute again becuase enabled isnt 1 anymore |
| 17:25.22 | foxlit | what's "enabled", deca? |
| 17:25.26 | decaprime | a variable |
| 17:25.30 | foxlit | Do you declare it? |
| 17:25.37 | foxlit | Does anything else declare it? |
| 17:25.38 | amro | where do you declare it? |
| 17:25.43 | VoidRaider | what do you mean ? executes few times, where ? :P |
| 17:25.43 | decaprime | maybe I didn't use the correct syntax to globally declare it |
| 17:25.46 | amro | maybe you're redeclaring each function call |
| 17:26.01 | cogwheel | you shouldn't use a name like "enabled" for a global anyway |
| 17:26.02 | foxlit | (there's no global declare syntax. if you didn't declare it locally, it's global) |
| 17:26.16 | decaprime | cogwheel it was an example |
| 17:26.21 | amro | yeah, you should prefix it |
| 17:26.53 | Industrial | or use it locally |
| 17:27.07 | foxlit | Industrial: ShowPartyFrame = function() end |
| 17:27.24 | foxlit | kills the partymemberframes |
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| 17:28.33 | decaprime | argh.. I want to work on this addon but like the servers just blew up |
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| 17:29.06 | SB1-Laptop | Sorry for the noob, but I need a "what's this addon?" question answered... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59590659&pageNo=2#23 |
| 17:29.17 | SB1-Laptop | Those raid frames... I've never seen them before, and I want them ;P |
| 17:29.34 | foxlit | topicnotfound |
| 17:29.40 | axxo | SB1-Laptop: deleted |
| 17:29.40 | SB1-Laptop | bah, sec |
| 17:30.02 | SB1-Laptop | Sorry, hit 5 instead of a 4 |
| 17:30.02 | SB1-Laptop | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59490659&pageNo=2&sid=1#23 |
| 17:30.04 | VoidRaider | Hmm Ind, why it happens anyway, I mean what's popping them after you hide it ? |
| 17:30.11 | Industrial | blizzard |
| 17:30.12 | Industrial | :) |
| 17:30.15 | VoidRaider | ahh :P |
| 17:30.16 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 17:30.39 | axxo | thats ag_unitframe |
| 17:30.50 | axxo | i think |
| 17:31.01 | VoidRaider | I t was weird, I thought you were referring it to your own frames :P |
| 17:31.08 | VoidRaider | it was* |
| 17:31.34 | foxlit | Is there an easy way to introduce clipping for textures? |
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| 17:33.04 | foxlit | If I wanted to say, slide something on top of something else, can I do that without resizing? |
| 17:33.30 | decaprime | ok... I have another stupid question... whats the deal with semicolon line terminators in lua... |
| 17:33.47 | foxlit | They're optional. |
| 17:33.56 | decaprime | heh so its just for readability then? |
| 17:34.02 | foxlit | Yep |
| 17:34.04 | decaprime | k |
| 17:34.05 | JoshBork1 | or unreadability |
| 17:34.16 | decaprime | heh well... for any real programmers.... readability =) |
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| 17:34.25 | JoshBork1 | ouch |
| 17:34.50 | decaprime | ... so don't supose I could code this addon in C++ or C# eh? |
| 17:34.51 | VoidRaider | Well they are useful and needed in namespaces, but you can either use semicolon or just a comma :) |
| 17:35.04 | Tem|AFK | it's actually not always optional |
| 17:35.10 | decaprime | because lua is screwing with my head |
| 17:35.34 | Darklin | Who's out and about? I'm having an issue with trying to repair MyInventory. It seems that I'm hitting a blizzard protected function somewhere but I have little clue how to figure out what one I'm running into. |
| 17:35.35 | Tem|AFK | a = b or c; ("blah blah"):match(...) |
| 17:35.54 | decaprime | I have this like... definition bug in my program where its not disabiling recording |
| 17:36.26 | Industrial | get bugsack it will give you a trace |
| 17:36.38 | Industrial | for Darklin and decaprime :) |
| 17:36.41 | decaprime | like the calls to OnEvent happen independently right |
| 17:36.44 | Darklin | Industrial: Thanks. |
| 17:36.57 | decaprime | cool... a variable inspector would be godly |
| 17:37.20 | Industrial | devtools |
| 17:37.20 | foxlit | arguably, shouldn't use ("blah blah"):match() |
| 17:37.34 | Industrial | decaprime: devtools has /dump |
| 17:37.35 | Tem|AFK | foxlit, that's hardly the point |
| 17:37.38 | End | but you can use it |
| 17:37.47 | foxlit | But yes, it does give you a fancy ambigious syntax error |
| 17:38.01 | Tem|AFK | that was the first thing that came to mind |
| 17:38.15 | Tem|AFK | anyway... |
| 17:38.31 | decaprime | industrial |
| 17:38.36 | decaprime | thats only for actual errors though |
| 17:38.39 | Darklin | Industrial: Sweet. That's exactly what I was after. Didn't know this was out here. Thanks. |
| 17:38.55 | decaprime | my problem is with the actual logic of the callstack of the lua functions I think |
| 17:39.52 | decaprime | k |
| 17:39.57 | decaprime | devtools... gotcha... gotta find that now |
| 17:41.41 | decaprime | doesn't seem to do what I need either |
| 17:42.02 | JoshBork1 | decaprime: what's the problem? |
| 17:42.54 | decaprime | well |
| 17:42.56 | Darklin | Caught it. It's LootSlot(); |
| 17:42.59 | decaprime | most basically, I have a toggle |
| 17:43.20 | Industrial | just pastey.net it |
| 17:43.21 | decaprime | for recording button movements (like if you moved an icon on the action bar) |
| 17:43.27 | decaprime | and /bm stop stops it |
| 17:43.35 | decaprime | erm /bm start toggles it on |
| 17:43.54 | decaprime | It works pretty well, the exception is when I change stances |
| 17:44.08 | decaprime | even if I do /bm stop it still records stuff into the table |
| 17:44.12 | decaprime | and keeps on doing so |
| 17:44.21 | JoshBork1 | paste the code |
| 17:44.26 | JoshBork1 | into the website in the toc |
| 17:44.32 | Darklin | Hrm, why would MyInventory be calling loot slot... And specifically, only calling it when looting ONLY money from a corpse. |
| 17:44.32 | decaprime | rgr |
| 17:45.58 | decaprime | http://wowi.pastey.net/4053-4fpj |
| 17:48.41 | Darklin | This is confusing. How is it possible for an inventory addon to be caller for looting... |
| 17:50.12 | decaprime | joshbork: I added a few more bm_enable=0; as a precaution |
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| 17:51.39 | decaprime | annd the ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_USABLE part was just a test |
| 17:51.41 | decaprime | it borks up without that |
| 17:51.43 | decaprime | and with it |
| 17:51.54 | Neuro | what's the limit on texture sizes, 512x512? |
| 17:52.07 | decaprime | joshbork, did you get the pastey link or no |
| 17:52.13 | decaprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.13 | decaprime | * /msg: insufficient parameters |
| 17:53.23 | decaprime | =/ |
| 17:54.30 | Qshadowp | decaprime lol i allmost thought that was a mIRC script then :P |
| 17:54.35 | Darklin | Because MyInventory was hooking LootFrame_OnShow! Thats why |
| 17:54.37 | Darklin | Ok, fixed it. |
| 17:54.39 | Qshadowp | * /msg: insufficient parameters <-- also a mIRC Error :D |
| 17:54.44 | decaprime | heh I know |
| 17:54.47 | VoidRaider | yeah Neuro |
| 17:54.49 | decaprime | I just copied to many lines |
| 17:55.02 | Darklin | Thanks for the debugger, Industrial, it was invaluable. |
| 17:55.19 | decaprime | so anyone able to help me, I think josh disappeared? |
| 17:55.52 | Darklin | decaprime: What's wrong? |
| 17:56.01 | decaprime | I have a logic bug |
| 17:56.07 | decaprime | I have a toggle variable |
| 17:56.11 | decaprime | that like toggles itself |
| 17:56.12 | Darklin | Time to see the Wizard of Ozz |
| 17:56.14 | Darklin | =P |
| 17:56.33 | Darklin | Ok, what's the var thats getting toggled |
| 17:56.40 | decaprime | bm_enabled |
| 17:56.56 | Darklin | You mean bm_enable? |
| 17:57.06 | decaprime | when I change stances it like makes it permenantly enabled |
| 17:57.08 | decaprime | yesh |
| 17:57.34 | decaprime | I just had a thoguht |
| 17:57.35 | decaprime | in lua |
| 17:57.42 | decaprime | would you od |
| 17:57.51 | decaprime | if(bm_enable==1) then |
| 17:57.57 | decaprime | or if(bm_enable=="1") then |
| 17:58.07 | decaprime | because it sometimes works |
| 17:58.08 | decaprime | but I dono |
| 17:58.08 | Darklin | You theoretically should be able to do either. |
| 17:58.16 | decaprime | yah thats what i thought |
| 17:58.30 | decaprime | but like when I change into stealth |
| 17:58.32 | decaprime | or out of it |
| 17:58.45 | decaprime | it keeps adding things to button_list |
| 17:58.56 | Darklin | Ok, so what is the code for when a stance change occurs? |
| 17:58.57 | decaprime | even though I have type /bm stop to set bm_enable to 0 |
| 17:59.05 | decaprime | not sure |
| 17:59.08 | decaprime | but it doesnt matter |
| 17:59.24 | decaprime | I just tried adding tha tother action to see if it would work |
| 17:59.29 | decaprime | it didn't work before and doesnt worka fter |
| 17:59.38 | Darklin | Is this recording 'state' stuff? |
| 17:59.45 | decaprime | huh? |
| 18:00.06 | decaprime | its recording action bar changes |
| 18:01.49 | Darklin | Aye, but when you change stance, you change the action bar. |
| 18:01.59 | decaprime | yah |
| 18:02.00 | decaprime | so |
| 18:02.07 | Darklin | I guess I'm just wondering if by doing a stance change, you're activating the mod 'backwards' so to speak. |
| 18:02.38 | decaprime | how would that work |
| 18:02.50 | Darklin | Not sure, just thinking aloud really. |
| 18:02.57 | decaprime | heh |
| 18:03.19 | Darklin | Thats how I usually solve problems. Just talking about it until I think of something I havent' before. |
| 18:04.03 | decaprime | k |
| 18:04.03 | decaprime | well |
| 18:04.06 | decaprime | aparently |
| 18:04.13 | decaprime | the only changes I have made are as follows |
| 18:04.20 | decaprime | reversed the order of the ifs |
| 18:04.25 | decaprime | and added a semicolon |
| 18:04.30 | decaprime | and now it seems to be alright |
| 18:04.32 | decaprime | need to test more |
| 18:05.29 | Darklin | So you put cmd=="stop" before "record" and now it is working properly> |
| 18:05.30 | Darklin | ? |
| 18:05.42 | decaprime | no |
| 18:05.49 | decaprime | I reversed the handeling of the events |
| 18:06.02 | decaprime | becuase I think lua just instances the function that is called by the xml |
| 18:06.07 | decaprime | like its not procedural |
| 18:06.18 | decaprime | well not lua but what ever blizzard did to make the lua run |
| 18:08.21 | Darklin | Inside a function it is procedural tho, is it not? |
| 18:08.25 | Darklin | Fairly certian it is. |
| 18:08.57 | Darklin | So, let me get this correct. you do a /bm record |
| 18:09.00 | Darklin | Record some buttons |
| 18:09.03 | Darklin | Then do a /bm stop |
| 18:09.28 | Darklin | then change stance in some way 'stealth/shapeshift whatever' and ButtonManager acts as if you had also done a /bm record again? |
| 18:17.13 | amro | decaprime: i don't get what you mean by instance |
| 18:17.33 | amro | as in object instance, or some other meaning? |
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| 18:21.51 | decaprime | nevermind amro |
| 18:22.32 | Mike-N-Go | WoW has a memory leak :( |
| 18:22.36 | decaprime | I am pretty sure I fixed the bug by changing the order the OnEvent function handles events |
| 18:23.06 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know how I may track it to an addon, like if GC is not happing? |
| 18:24.10 | Mike-N-Go | I have seen this in the command line, Terminal FTW! |
| 18:24.23 | Mike-N-Go | Via top |
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| 18:32.20 | Mike-N-Go | Heh, I have been selling snowballs all Christmas, it is like they don't know where I get theses things... |
| 18:32.48 | Mike-N-Go | I know there were some how are ignorant, but not that ignorant. |
| 18:34.08 | Kaso | Snowballs are worthless now they fixed theyre Gobal Cooldown :< |
| 18:34.41 | foxlit | Where exactly are those target cast bars defined, in blizzard code? |
| 18:35.44 | Mike-N-Go | Kaso, what don't you like about snow balls? |
| 18:35.59 | Kaso | that i cant use a macro to snowball the entire raid |
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| 18:36.04 | cladhaire | Mike-N-Go: Its a known memory leak, when you switch between windowed and non-windowed mode |
| 18:36.13 | cladhaire | they've contacted Apple about it quite some time agho |
| 18:36.19 | AnduinLothar | when did scourgestones become non bop? |
| 18:36.34 | Kaso | theyre non bop :gasp: |
| 18:36.36 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: ruserious? |
| 18:36.57 | foxlit | They are bop on live. |
| 18:36.58 | AnduinLothar | someone said they weren't on my forums.... perhaps they're on crack |
| 18:36.58 | axxo | anyone know a good inspecting addon? |
| 18:37.21 | Gnarfoz | superinspect |
| 18:37.38 | Gnarfoz | http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=scourgestone |
| 18:37.41 | Gnarfoz | all 3 BoP |
| 18:38.05 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 18:38.17 | AnduinLothar | i'll correct the dumbass |
| 18:39.33 | AnduinLothar | stupid users... blamign the wrong addons for breaking things... does no one know how to properly troubleshoot? |
| 18:40.11 | Kaso | im curious as to what the person said. |
| 18:40.21 | AnduinLothar | "Scourge stones are not Bind On Pickup." |
| 18:41.02 | Kaso | how does that related to troubleshooting |
| 18:41.15 | AnduinLothar | they're blaming AutoBindOnPickup |
| 18:41.49 | AnduinLothar | which sounds logical, but it 5 minutes i disproved it by flying to EPL and soling a mob with my trinket on |
| 18:41.55 | foxlit | What's the event that fires when unit starts/stops/delays casting? |
| 18:41.58 | foxlit | Can't seem to find it :( |
| 18:42.11 | AnduinLothar | wiki isn't updated |
| 18:42.31 | AnduinLothar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=48647169&sid=1 |
| 18:43.57 | foxlit | So I should watch for SENT to get the info, and then Start / Stop / Update? |
| 18:44.13 | AnduinLothar | depends on what you're doing |
| 18:44.28 | foxlit | Target frame castbar. |
| 18:44.41 | AnduinLothar | there already is a target frame castbar |
| 18:44.49 | foxlit | I know. It's not cooperating. |
| 18:45.02 | AnduinLothar | and there's a template for casting bars |
| 18:45.14 | foxlit | That I don't know. Where? |
| 18:45.28 | AnduinLothar | CastingBarFrame.xml |
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| 18:49.55 | Neuro | And you are looking for unit_spellcast_start, not sent |
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| 18:50.21 | AnduinLothar | sent only works for player |
| 18:50.23 | Neuro | I don't really even know what SENT is for |
| 18:50.34 | AnduinLothar | sent is for a successful cast |
| 18:50.39 | Neuro | ahh |
| 18:50.54 | Neuro | so it's for things like aftercast |
| 18:50.57 | AnduinLothar | as in, passes client side auto-failure tests |
| 18:51.00 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 18:51.35 | Neuro | foxlit, what you want to do is look for UNIT_SPELLCAST_START, and then call UnitCastingInfo() to get the details |
| 18:51.43 | foxlit | I've got it now, thank you. |
| 18:52.09 | foxlit | Was trying to find where blizzard does it by looking at mainly TargetFrame.lua, but there was only residue there |
| 18:52.28 | Neuro | foxlit, if I may ask, what are you trying to get the target casting bar to do? |
| 18:53.15 | foxlit | I want it to replace the target mana bar in my unitframes. |
| 18:55.16 | foxlit | And since I'm not using statusbars, it's all a bit tricky |
| 18:55.32 | Neuro | why not use a statusbar? |
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| 18:56.34 | Neuro | The easiest thing would be to copy the relevant code from targetframe.lua and targetframe.xml, and just change the size and anchor points. |
| 18:56.49 | Neuro | You wouldn't even have to write the event handler code |
| 18:57.00 | Neuro | you could just use Blizzard's |
| 18:57.13 | foxlit | Display logic, mainly. |
| 18:57.31 | Neuro | ok |
| 18:57.36 | foxlit | While I could customize things on top of status bars, it's virtually the same as doing it via textures. |
| 18:58.06 | AnduinLothar | why not just reanchor the normal target casting bar and hide the normal mana bar? |
| 18:58.46 | foxlit | Not using the normal mana bar. |
| 18:58.55 | Neuro | AL, is there a limit to the size of .tga textures that the game can use? |
| 18:59.16 | AnduinLothar | not afaik, just that they have to be squares |
| 18:59.21 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 18:59.28 | AnduinLothar | sides by power of 2 |
| 18:59.28 | Neuro | mine is 512x128 |
| 18:59.31 | End | there is (or was) a pixel limit |
| 18:59.36 | Neuro | but it's not showing up for some reason |
| 18:59.37 | foxlit | 512x512, if memory serves |
| 18:59.46 | AnduinLothar | is it compressed? |
| 19:00.05 | Neuro | I honestly don't know |
| 19:00.11 | Neuro | I'm hopeless with artwork stuff |
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| 19:00.26 | Neuro | I edited a blp file, and had to save it as tga |
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| 19:01.21 | vith | blizzard downloader still at 0% after days |
| 19:01.27 | vith | is it working for anybody? |
| 19:01.37 | Neuro | I'm getting about 1% every 2-3 days |
| 19:02.58 | AnduinLothar | someone wanna download this and tell me if the file is actually corrupt? http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2183/wardrobe-al/ |
| 19:04.21 | cladhaire | unzips fine for mer. |
| 19:04.39 | AnduinLothar | yeah, same here. was that on your mac or pc? |
| 19:04.45 | cladhaire | mac |
| 19:05.16 | AnduinLothar | yeah, i think there must be some windows decompressor that's really picky about file headers or something |
| 19:05.19 | Mery | winrar windows xp throws an error |
| 19:05.25 | AnduinLothar | there you go |
| 19:05.56 | AnduinLothar | wanna see if you can repair it mery? |
| 19:06.21 | AnduinLothar | possibly using http://www.ziprepair.com/ |
| 19:06.32 | Mery | the windows xp built in zip decompression works |
| 19:06.48 | AnduinLothar | good to know |
| 19:06.56 | AnduinLothar | what vers of winrar are you using? |
| 19:07.14 | Mery | 3.42 |
| 19:07.24 | AnduinLothar | try 3.6 |
| 19:07.40 | AnduinLothar | 3.62 on windows |
| 19:07.54 | foxlit | Any advantage to hooking PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED rather than UNIT_TARGET (except for not having to check arg1 == "player")? |
| 19:08.04 | vith | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.07 | vith | error: expected central file header signature not found (file #91). |
| 19:08.10 | vith | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.12 | vith | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.15 | vith | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.41 | AnduinLothar | any idea what file#91 is? |
| 19:08.59 | vith | probably either the one before or after the error, not sure |
| 19:09.42 | zenzelezz | <AnduinLothar> someone wanna download this and tell me if the file is actually corrupt? http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2183/wardrobe-al/ <--- works fine in WinZip 9 |
| 19:10.07 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 19:11.25 | vith | the archive is corrupt, but the CRC's all match so the files contained within may all be OK (if there aren't any missing completely) |
| 19:11.27 | AnduinLothar | cause i've had issues with DropStuff zips being called corrupted before. I have it set to automaticly ignore the invisible mac files, but for some reason some decompressors complain |
| 19:12.19 | cladhaire | AnduinLothar: I just use the commandline zip |
| 19:12.32 | AnduinLothar | that doesn't ignore mac files clad |
| 19:12.35 | cladhaire | then have a script tht removes the .DS_Store files, and the __MACOSX files |
| 19:12.36 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 19:12.42 | cladhaire | i know, I delete those in my script. |
| 19:12.49 | cladhaire | then i'm using standard pkzip compression |
| 19:12.56 | AnduinLothar | you delete them from the zip ? |
| 19:13.17 | AnduinLothar | i dunno how to do that w/o a gui |
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| 19:16.33 | Mery | well repairing did nothing beside the fact that I think you only got 90 files in your zip (because the repair only processed 90 files) and they both (old and 3.62) extract all (well I don't see missing ones) beside the error anyway |
| 19:17.08 | AnduinLothar | so it errors but extracts them all anyway? |
| 19:17.11 | Mery | ya |
| 19:17.17 | AnduinLothar | odd' |
| 19:17.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | ruh roh |
| 19:18.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | my wardrobe isnt' showing my outfits in the edit outfits menu anymore @_@ |
| 19:18.20 | AnduinLothar | yeah someone complained about that |
| 19:18.35 | AnduinLothar | any outfits? |
| 19:18.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | none atm |
| 19:18.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | making a new one |
| 19:18.48 | AnduinLothar | but they work in the dropdown |
| 19:18.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just made a new outfit and no dice on it either |
| 19:18.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 19:19.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | works in the dropdown |
| 19:19.05 | AnduinLothar | new one work? |
| 19:19.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 19:19.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | no error either |
| 19:19.26 | AnduinLothar | well i spose that's good |
| 19:19.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_O |
| 19:21.17 | AnduinLothar | try dlign the curse one and replace the cosmos vers and tell me if that works |
| 19:21.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | okay |
| 19:22.33 | cladhaire | is Tyr's hand still good for grinding |
| 19:22.38 | cladhaire | or is the Noxious glade better now |
| 19:23.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | ask a farmer |
| 19:23.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i had a translator in my guild for a while it was awesome |
| 19:27.19 | AnduinLothar | hmm i can't move the .Trash folder to the trash.. how odd |
| 19:28.39 | AnduinLothar | hmm i had 150 thousand system files on my old hard drive, from 5 OS's |
| 19:28.52 | vith | the ~/.Trash folder probably is the trash. I don't use OS X though |
| 19:29.01 | AnduinLothar | it is, i was joking |
| 19:29.09 | vith | k |
| 19:29.20 | AnduinLothar | it's actually .Trashes |
| 19:29.20 | zenzelezz | joke crits vith for 3000 physical damage |
| 19:29.39 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.43 | AnduinLothar | one on each drive |
| 19:31.37 | AnduinLothar | can you set slave drives on windows to ignore file permissions? |
| 19:32.13 | AnduinLothar | mmm tasty, I've reclaimed 7gb of space by deleting old system files |
| 19:32.48 | zenzelezz | which file permissions? |
| 19:33.02 | AnduinLothar | all files on the disk |
| 19:33.15 | TheStig | NTFS? |
| 19:33.23 | vith | not that i know of, but there's a way to reset all the permissions at once |
| 19:35.01 | AnduinLothar | cause i know on mac you can set HFS drives to have ownership disabled... but i dunno if that's possible on NTFS |
| 19:36.37 | zenzelezz | unless you specifically tell Windows to, it rarely cares much about permissions/ownership... at least in my experience |
| 19:36.38 | Gnarfoz | don't think that's possible with NTFS, although as an administrator you can take ownership of every file |
| 19:37.07 | Gnarfoz | windows sure does, but as an administrator you don't normally really notice, zenzelezz |
| 19:37.29 | AnduinLothar | cladhaire: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17207 |
| 19:38.00 | cladhaire | ooh pretty |
| 19:38.01 | cladhaire | thanks =) |
| 19:38.14 | Neuro | so, what file format is BLP, actually? |
| 19:38.23 | AnduinLothar | custom blizz format |
| 19:38.32 | Neuro | The how can XnView view it? |
| 19:38.42 | cladhaire | because the format is well known |
| 19:38.59 | cladhaire | on wikipedia actually |
| 19:39.14 | AnduinLothar | Blizz games use BLP2 actually, which is similar to BLP except with backwards color formatting and a diff header |
| 19:39.33 | Gnarfoz | the world still needs a blp2 photoshop file format plug-in :\ |
| 19:40.06 | Neuro | Here's my problem. I have files in blp format, I need to edit them but save them back into blp format. If I save them in .tga format, the game won't load them. |
| 19:40.17 | cladhaire | hten you're saving them incorrectly |
| 19:40.21 | cladhaire | and you should address that first |
| 19:41.19 | Neuro | Ok, so is there a listed restrictions on bliz textures, aside from the 512x512 limit, and the power-of-2 limit |
| 19:41.20 | AnduinLothar | what the diff between zip, gzip, and bzip2? |
| 19:41.30 | cladhaire | zip is zip |
| 19:41.37 | Gnarfoz | gzip is gzip, and bzip2 is bzip2 :D |
| 19:41.44 | zenzelezz | pretty much |
| 19:41.45 | cladhaire | gzip and bzip2 are different compression algorithms |
| 19:41.57 | AnduinLothar | i figured as much |
| 19:42.03 | cladhaire | Neuro: No, there's shouldn't be anythign other than that.. they should be saved as 24-bit with alpha channel |
| 19:42.35 | zenzelezz | gzip is the one used in stuff like PNG, HTTP (if requested), etc... isn't it? |
| 19:42.36 | Gnarfoz | AnduinLothar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_archivers or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_archive_formats |
| 19:42.43 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 19:42.54 | Gnarfoz | hm, 24 bit with alpha? |
| 19:43.05 | Gnarfoz | that's 32 bit, isn't it |
| 19:43.12 | cladhaire | yes |
| 19:43.21 | cladhaire | but thats how the files are typically specified. |
| 19:43.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know |
| 19:43.44 | Gnarfoz | just asking, because if you do 24bit saving in photoshop and the image has an alpha channel, that one gets discarded |
| 19:43.57 | cladhaire | i use gimp |
| 19:44.03 | cladhaire | because in gimp.. if you save it as a tga.. it works. |
| 19:44.17 | Gnarfoz | huh? works with ps just as well |
| 19:44.22 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 19:44.27 | AnduinLothar | i do all mine in ps |
| 19:44.31 | cladhaire | yes i know it does |
| 19:44.34 | cladhaire | i just dont have ps on my computer |
| 19:44.39 | AnduinLothar | click 32bit and uncheck compressed |
| 19:44.49 | AnduinLothar | compressed might work, not sure |
| 19:44.50 | Gnarfoz | even compressed works for me |
| 19:44.54 | cladhaire | yes, my point is.. you dont have to check or do anything in gimp |
| 19:44.55 | cladhaire | just save it =) |
| 19:45.07 | AnduinLothar | less options isn't necissarily a good thing |
| 19:45.13 | AnduinLothar | but in this case.. |
| 19:45.15 | Gnarfoz | personal pref, I guess |
| 19:45.20 | cladhaire | the options are still there |
| 19:45.23 | cladhaire | it just works by default. |
| 19:45.30 | cladhaire | which is ALL i said in the first place =) |
| 19:45.31 | AnduinLothar | i do wish you could set a default and bypass that window tho |
| 19:45.58 | AnduinLothar | since it remembers your prefrence it just asks you again anyway |
| 19:46.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's kind of annoying :D |
| 19:47.10 | AnduinLothar | gzip has the same compression and times as zip... sound sliek the same algorithm to me.. |
| 19:48.24 | vith | gzip does one file only |
| 19:49.26 | cladhaire | gzip doesn't archive, it just compresses |
| 19:49.31 | cladhaire | and i think there were patent issues initially with pkzip |
| 19:49.37 | cladhaire | i dont remember the history |
| 19:49.54 | amro | gzip packs everything at once, that's why its smaller |
| 19:50.08 | cladhaire | it isn't smaller than .zip, which is what AL is saying |
| 19:50.20 | cladhaire | .zip and .gzip have the exact same ratios and times on the wiki page |
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| 19:51.42 | AnduinLothar | hmmm my zip with DropStuff is 2k less than the one with CleanArchiver.. |
| 19:51.48 | AnduinLothar | 3k |
| 19:52.00 | End | zip and gzip use the same compression algorithm |
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| 19:53.13 | End | zip however, applies compression per file. gzip when combined with tar, compresses across all files |
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| 19:55.19 | AnduinLothar | someone wanna dl this and tell me if it has mac files or is corrupted: http://67.125.156.135:82/~karl/blog/files/Wardrobe.zip |
| 19:55.55 | Antiarc | Downloads and decompresses fine with 7-zip |
| 19:56.00 | Antiarc | No mac files to be seen. |
| 19:56.09 | End | looks fine to me |
| 19:56.16 | vith | no errors with unzip, no mac files |
| 19:56.27 | zenzelezz | WinZip shows no errors, lists 78 files? |
| 19:56.37 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 19:56.45 | AnduinLothar | it's the same thing, why would it have less files? |
| 19:56.51 | AnduinLothar | someone wanna try with WinRar plx |
| 19:57.03 | vith | 90 files |
| 19:57.30 | End | I tried with winrar actually |
| 19:57.44 | AnduinLothar | k thx |
| 19:57.51 | Elkano | empty folders? |
| 19:57.52 | zenzelezz | my WinRar also shows 78 files in the file |
| 19:58.10 | AnduinLothar | weird |
| 19:58.47 | zenzelezz | hm, WinRAR/WinZip don't seem to count the folders as files |
| 19:58.51 | vith | unzip counts 90 because directories are considered files. how many are there supposed to be? |
| 19:58.56 | zenzelezz | but I count 12 folders manually, adding up to 90 |
| 19:59.46 | AnduinLothar | ok that makes sense |
| 19:59.46 | zenzelezz | seems like a valid, good file |
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| 20:02.56 | AnduinLothar | ok, well that was with CleanArchiver so I guess it works, tho it's compression is slightly less than DropStuff's |
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| 20:11.38 | AnduinLothar | wonder if i can set a wardrobe label to "ItemRack" |
| 20:12.49 | Mike-N-Go | What can Palies do, cure disease, poison? |
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| 20:13.14 | AnduinLothar | both |
| 20:13.19 | AnduinLothar | everything but curse |
| 20:13.20 | Gnarfoz | everything besides curses? |
| 20:13.22 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 20:13.23 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 20:13.35 | Mike-N-Go | I am going to try to name one Alleviater |
| 20:13.36 | Mike-N-Go | :) |
| 20:13.57 | Gnarfoz | that would be misspelling, wouldn't it? |
| 20:14.14 | Mike-N-Go | How would it be spelled, then? |
| 20:14.21 | Gnarfoz | wouldn't it be Alleviator? |
| 20:14.21 | Mike-N-Go | Or how about Conciliater |
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| 20:14.49 | Gnarfoz | hm, nevermind me, that's one of the few things I can't seem to get a clear idea of - when it is -or and when -er |
| 20:14.54 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, thanks, I will try the correct spelling first, only if it is not taken... |
| 20:15.39 | Gnarfoz | -or seems to be right, in this case (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/alleviater <- no match) |
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| 20:16.07 | Mike-N-Go | My names come fromt he Dictionary :) |
| 20:16.22 | Gnarfoz | you should spec him retritubtion, though, just to annoy people xD |
| 20:16.59 | Mike-N-Go | Or do I want to be an oxi-moron :) |
| 20:17.18 | Mike-N-Go | Aficionador, perhaps? |
| 20:20.44 | Mike-N-Go | Conciliater or Conciliator? |
| 20:22.28 | Gnarfoz | no clue, try googlefighting it |
| 20:22.28 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 20:22.34 | Mike-N-Go | Gnarfoz: What name should I spec Retritubtion? |
| 20:22.37 | Gnarfoz | http://googlefight.com/ |
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| 20:24.08 | AnduinLothar | lol google vs apple |
| 20:25.07 | Mike-N-Go | Bill Gates vs Steve Jobs :O |
| 20:26.44 | Mike-N-Go | Alleviator it is. |
| 20:28.08 | Neuro | Bill Gates won that fight IRL |
| 20:28.13 | Neuro | no need to googlefight it |
| 20:28.46 | foxlit | Dunno; money stops being significant beyond a certain point |
| 20:28.56 | Mike-N-Go | He won it by cheating, stealing, any lieying-oh didn't everyone? |
| 20:29.13 | foxlit | lying, no? |
| 20:30.44 | phreaky | ~seen a-stray-cat |
| 20:30.47 | purl | a-stray-cat <n=a-stray-@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3d 21h 3m 13s ago, saying: 'hm?'. |
| 20:31.05 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen purl |
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| 20:32.30 | phreaky | Could any1 tell me why this macro wont work.. /cast Create Spellstone (Major) |
| 20:32.44 | phreaky | /Cast Create Spellstone .. works, but only the lowest rank |
| 20:32.50 | AnduinLothar | try adding () |
| 20:33.02 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.14 | phreaky | ok testing that |
| 20:33.30 | phreaky | ah yeah that works :D |
| 20:33.38 | phreaky | Thanks alot .. |
| 20:33.49 | phreaky | Is that due to the normal Rank standing in the () the first time? |
| 20:34.10 | AnduinLothar | yeah the CastSpellByName parser is dumb |
| 20:34.23 | phreaky | Thanks alot, I've been struggling with it :) |
| 20:35.54 | Thrae | Has anything changed with Events in 2.0? Still need to assign stuff like ADDON_LOADED to a Frame, right? |
| 20:37.19 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 20:37.40 | foxlit | Be mindful of also passing arguments to any OnEvent hooks you may have |
| 20:43.26 | foxlit | Is there an addon-based solution to losing battlegroup after a disconnect? |
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| 20:52.24 | foxlit | If UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED is only raised for player, does that mean that UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP also marks the completion of a unit's spell? |
| 20:53.00 | Teomyr | is it only raised for player? |
| 20:53.10 | Teomyr | i thought it was called for other units too |
| 20:54.19 | foxlit | * UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED, "player", spell, rank |
| 20:54.25 | foxlit | (Iriel's post) |
| 20:55.39 | Teomyr | hm |
| 20:58.40 | foxlit | Testing shows it only fires for player as well |
| 20:59.27 | AnduinLothar | SUCCEEDED and SENT are player only |
| 21:01.14 | foxlit | So there's no way whether the target has finished or just stopped casting the spell? |
| 21:01.19 | foxlit | ^ to tell |
| 21:01.38 | AnduinLothar | not easily |
| 21:01.50 | AnduinLothar | have to check it against a stored endTime |
| 21:02.10 | AnduinLothar | or just don't use END |
| 21:05.45 | foxlit | perhaps aborted is included in failed |
| 21:10.42 | AnduinLothar | correct |
| 21:10.49 | AnduinLothar | er |
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| 21:11.41 | AnduinLothar | UNIT_SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTED is a failure after it's started to cast |
| 21:11.44 | lectrd | << Newbie LUA Scripter. What does it mean when I get a table index is nil error? |
| 21:11.57 | AnduinLothar | UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED is a failure to cast |
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| 21:12.18 | AnduinLothar | table[nil] |
| 21:12.27 | lectrd | Well |
| 21:12.38 | lectrd | I made a table, but I don't think its nil :x |
| 21:12.46 | AnduinLothar | no, the index is |
| 21:12.55 | lectrd | Ahhhh |
| 21:12.59 | lectrd | I think I see now |
| 21:13.19 | AnduinLothar | var=nil; t1[var]; would produce that error |
| 21:13.20 | lectrd | LVBM.Bosses[LVBM_Test] |
| 21:13.30 | lectrd | If LVBM_Test isn't defined |
| 21:13.34 | lectrd | I'd get that error |
| 21:13.34 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 21:13.38 | lectrd | k |
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| 21:37.26 | foxlit | Yourgrounded, Troll shaman |
| 21:38.07 | foxlit | They just don't enforce the naming policy :/ |
| 21:40.22 | Qshadowp | is there a addon that enables the /gkick command? |
| 21:40.29 | Qshadowp | its annoying to have to go into the guild roster :P |
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| 21:47.24 | lectrd | Qshadowp: Try /gremove |
| 21:48.06 | Qshadowp | yea that works, thanks :P |
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| 21:50.49 | MentalPower|PC | Check this out: |
| 21:50.49 | MentalPower|PC | [17:45:37] <MentalPower|PC> SDS: what happens when you type "/auc" |
| 21:50.50 | MentalPower|PC | [17:46:24] <hejsan> nothin happens when I typ /auc |
| 21:50.51 | MentalPower|PC | [17:46:38] <hejsan> or do you mean ingame? |
| 21:51.21 | lectrd | I've had those kinds of days |
| 21:51.28 | Tierrie|Work | hahahaa |
| 21:52.10 | MentalPower|PC | note that I sent the message to SDS and hejsan responded |
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| 21:56.50 | Qshadowp | lol |
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| 22:04.54 | Mike-N-Go | Mp, LOL |
| 22:05.20 | AnduinLothar | You know you want to: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59333063 |
| 22:06.11 | foxlit | What's the time format for UnitCastingInfo()? |
| 22:06.35 | foxlit | GetTime()*1000? |
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| 22:06.58 | Tierrie|Work | yes |
| 22:07.10 | Tierrie|Work | actually iirc the last 3 digits are miliseconds |
| 22:07.26 | Tierrie|Work | or something |
| 22:07.44 | Tierrie|Work | but its not the same magnitude as GetTime() |
| 22:11.32 | foxlit | GetTime()*1000 it is :) |
| 22:12.37 | Tierrie|Work | ja |
| 22:12.44 | Tierrie|Work | i don't remember which base i use |
| 22:12.55 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder |
| 22:13.08 | foxlit | Battleground server just crashed, they've dumped everyone in IF/wherever they queued |
| 22:13.43 | foxlit | Perhaps the close proximity of so many players will kill the world server too :P |
| 22:15.35 | Tierrie|Work | maybe they should have taken the weekly downtime after all |
| 22:15.39 | Kirkburn | Heya Cairenn |
| 22:15.48 | Tierrie|Work | oh gnoz its cairenn |
| 22:15.48 | Cairenn | hi Kirkburn |
| 22:15.55 | Tierrie|Work | hide your babbies |
| 22:16.02 | Kirkburn | Hope you had a good Xmas :) |
| 22:16.12 | Kirkburn | *Christmas, damn |
| 22:17.39 | Cairenn | yes I did, hope your holidays have been good as well |
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| 22:20.12 | End | Tierrie|Work: weekly downtime doesn't solve that sort of problem |
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| 22:26.06 | SB1-Laptop | cladhaire! |
| 22:26.09 | SB1-Laptop | wtb PerfectRaid |
| 22:26.20 | SB1-Laptop | err |
| 22:26.24 | SB1-Laptop | Wrong c[tab] ;P |
| 22:26.52 | SB1-Laptop | Wait, no, right c[tab] |
| 22:26.57 | SB1-Laptop | <-- wtb drugs |
| 22:27.07 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:35.18 | cladhaire | Cairenn |
| 22:35.23 | cladhaire | zomg its not ready yet |
| 22:35.26 | Cairenn | cladhaire: |
| 22:35.30 | cladhaire | err wrong S[tab] ;P |
| 22:35.40 | cladhaire | SB1-Laptop: Zomg code it for me, kthxbai! |
| 22:36.13 | SB1-Laptop | cladhaire, I had hopes |
| 22:36.36 | SB1-Laptop | ;) |
| 22:36.49 | cladhaire | it will be "ready" by the expansion |
| 22:36.52 | cladhaire | for some definition of "ready" |
| 22:36.58 | SB1-Laptop | lol |
| 22:37.03 | SB1-Laptop | Good to know |
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| 22:37.54 | Kirkburn | Soon (TM) |
| 22:38.08 | SB1-Laptop | Personally? I just like that it shows me who needs int :P |
| 22:38.10 | bleetah | hang on |
| 22:38.16 | SB1-Laptop | Makes buffing easy ^^ |
| 22:38.19 | cladhaire | SB1-Laptop: heh |
| 22:38.20 | bleetah | I thought norg's had (C) the (TM) of 'ready' and 'soon' :P |
| 22:38.35 | bleetah | including the various definitions of same ;) :P |
| 22:38.47 | Mery | soon is property of Blizzard Enterainment |
| 22:39.01 | bleetah | i must be spending time on the wrong modset, if someone has a better definition of 'ready' and 'soon' |
| 22:39.01 | SB1-Laptop | Yeah, along with "release date" |
| 22:39.04 | Kirkburn | Mery speaketh the truth |
| 22:39.19 | bleetah | ah, dang, of course Mery... I'm so lame |
| 22:39.32 | SB1-Laptop | "release date", "soon", and "ready" all belong to blizz |
| 22:39.36 | bleetah | so it's just an inherited property of all mods |
| 22:39.39 | cladhaire | compile the addon list for the book for me |
| 22:39.41 | cladhaire | and i can get back to coding |
| 22:39.41 | SB1-Laptop | RE: D2X, War3 |
| 22:39.47 | Kirkburn | I know VALVe acknowledge ownership of a definiton of Soon :P |
| 22:39.53 | cladhaire | but to be clear you shoudl probably finish my research proposal for oxford while you're at it. |
| 22:39.54 | SB1-Laptop | addon list for the book? |
| 22:39.57 | cladhaire | then I could really code |
| 22:40.15 | Corrodias | cladhaire has approximately ten minutes each day to work on addons |
| 22:40.21 | SB1-Laptop | What is this book you speak of? |
| 22:41.35 | Antiarc | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3429903.stm |
| 22:41.36 | Antiarc | O_O |
| 22:42.05 | Mery | actually just blame Blizzard: if they had released TBC in november cladhairs "it will be "ready" by the expansion" would already happened |
| 22:42.10 | SB1-Laptop | cladhaire, either way, good luck with your schoolwork ^^ |
| 22:42.17 | cladhaire | hehe i dont have any schoolwork |
| 22:42.27 | SB1-Laptop | Okay, rephrase |
| 22:42.32 | Corrodias | Antiarc: evolution gone wrong |
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| 22:42.41 | Antiarc | Corrodias: No kidding. |
| 22:42.46 | Corrodias | eventually it should swing back the other way like it does for america |
| 22:42.49 | SB1-Laptop | "Thing which occupies your time and prevents you from spoon-feeding me a working PerfectRaid to make my life in WoW easy" |
| 22:42.50 | SB1-Laptop | ;) |
| 22:42.56 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:43.00 | cladhaire | heh |
| 22:43.01 | Corrodias | wealth brings such an abundance of food that, at any time, you can have as much as you want, so you can be as thin as you want |
| 22:43.35 | Kirkburn | VALVe time: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_time |
| 22:43.46 | SB1-Laptop | Just curious as to the state of it though, thanks |
| 22:43.51 | SB1-Laptop | Gotta go now though, so, bbl |
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| 22:50.10 | Qshadowp | :) |
| 22:52.12 | foxlit | Why am I getting a UNIT_SPELLCSAT_STOP immediately after UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START? |
| 22:54.21 | foxlit | And why does UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP fire ~ 0.1sec before the actual endTime? |
| 22:56.22 | foxlit | and UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_STOP ~1sec after? |
| 23:02.22 | Neuro | it's just the way they have it set up |
| 23:02.56 | Neuro | that's why most castbar mods have a check in spellcast_stop to see whether you are channeling or casting |
| 23:03.21 | foxlit | Yep, had to add that in as well. I don't get the purpose, though |
| 23:03.33 | Neuro | and the .1 sec before the actual endtime is to allow the casting bar .1 second to "flash" |
| 23:03.50 | Neuro | Oh, that's so the client knows you've successfully cast the spell |
| 23:04.11 | foxlit | it's CHANNEL_START enough for that? |
| 23:04.18 | Neuro | apparently not |
| 23:05.02 | Neuro | I'd definately check castbarframe.lua, or if you have eCB, eCastingBar.lua |
| 23:05.11 | Neuro | to give you an idea of how it works |
| 23:06.02 | Neuro | It's so disappointing to see a mod with a lot of good features killed cause of a few critical shortcomings |
| 23:07.03 | foxlit | CastingBarFrame.lua doesn't appear to handle the SPELLCAST_STOP after a channel start, though |
| 23:07.57 | foxlit | unless... bah, it's odd. |
| 23:08.38 | Neuro | yes, it is |
| 23:09.18 | Neuro | It has to do with "IsShown" |
| 23:09.30 | Neuro | which to be perfectly honest with you, i never understood |
| 23:09.31 | foxlit | this.casting, this.channeling |
| 23:10.33 | Neuro | Apparently, when you first cast a channeled spell, IsShown() doesn't return true. Dunno why. |
| 23:10.54 | Neuro | also, something odd I noticed. Channeled spells have no spark, for some reason. |
| 23:11.01 | foxlit | Because the spellcastingbar isn't shown. |
| 23:11.37 | foxlit | frame:IsShown() returns 1 if frame is shown (frame:Show() was the last call), nil if not (frame:Hide() was the last call) |
| 23:12.17 | Neuro | Yes, but Channel_Start shows the frame |
| 23:12.35 | Neuro | but apparently the Spellcast_Stop gets there before the Channel_Start |
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| 23:14.31 | Kirkburn | This is absolutely *incredible*: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/351485/conjoined_twins/ |
| 23:14.43 | Kirkburn | I'm literally speechless |
| 23:15.27 | Neuro | are they playing WoW? |
| 23:16.14 | cogwheel | I remember seeing them on a documentary when they were little kids... |
| 23:16.22 | Kirkburn | That would be difficult to co-ordinate, but probably possible |
| 23:16.37 | Kirkburn | (They control one arm each) |
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| 23:20.18 | Corrodias | they can't do worse than your average PuG |
| 23:24.04 | foxlit | Hm, now that I've moved my castbar inside the playerframe, the bottom center of the screen feels oddly empty |
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| 23:25.33 | Neuro | sigh, I cannot believe TrinityBars doesn't have a way to save your profile |
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| 23:31.43 | Corrodias | i note that, in 2.0, the right-side actionbars seem to have moved slightly farther to the right |
| 23:31.53 | Corrodias | in the default UI that is |
| 23:32.43 | Corrodias | foxlit: you can always put some status-monitoring thing, there. a damage meter, maybe. or some tooltip from a fubar plugin. |
| 23:33.06 | Corrodias | speaking of which, questsfu's quest monitor frame is scaled entirely too small :( i can't read it |
| 23:34.12 | foxlit | Dunno, maybe I should move the playerframe/targetframe there like it's popular nowadays |
| 23:34.50 | Corrodias | i've stuck with a pretty classic layout because i use all the action bars and no custom layout i've seen shows all five (with one switching by stance) |
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| 23:36.38 | Sakano | Meow-lo |
| 23:36.54 | SP|Sorren | it seems ive stopped disconnecting. |
| 23:37.08 | a-stray-cat | i wonder what was going on. |
| 23:37.52 | Corrodias | something homosexual |
| 23:38.09 | Corrodias | it's okay! i can make gay jokes because i pretend to be gay, sometimes. |
| 23:38.30 | a-stray-cat | you can't make gay jokes with real gay people around, sir. |
| 23:39.12 | Corrodias | i can pretend to make jokes if i'm pretending to be gay |
| 23:41.09 | a-stray-cat | but i know you're just pretending, clearly. |
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| 23:41.35 | Kirkburn | a-stray-cat, I note you've fixed your DC/RC loop :P |
| 23:41.49 | Kirkburn | Oh wait |
| 23:41.52 | Kirkburn | You just said that |
| 23:41.58 | Kirkburn | purl, slap Kirkburn |
| 23:42.00 | purl | ACTION slaps Kirkburn, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 23:42.08 | a-stray-cat | i dont know what was causing the diconnects |
| 23:42.36 | Kirkburn | God knows, but I know I got you banned from #wowace for a while :P |
| 23:42.56 | Kirkburn | In fact, until i just said that |
| 23:43.16 | Kirkburn | A grand total of one second later |
| 23:44.21 | foxlit | Hm, my evening's worth of addon coding is now complete. |
| 23:44.35 | foxlit | Finished mutilation of cast/unitframes: http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1061/xframeshx3.png |
| 23:45.34 | Corrodias | by the way, is there an easy way to set your focus in the default UI or do you need to use a macro or script function to do it? |
| 23:45.34 | a-stray-cat | not sure i'd call that a mutilation ;p |
| 23:45.34 | a-stray-cat | i use a macro :/ |
| 23:45.34 | a-stray-cat | and just bind it to a key |
| 23:45.37 | cladhaire | Corrodias: No |
| 23:45.50 | cladhaire | you can bind some key or click-cast to set focus tho |
| 23:46.07 | Corrodias | wait, i see a "focus target" keybind... although i'd rather have something like alt+click on someone to make him the focus |
| 23:46.21 | Corrodias | or control+click since i'm using alt+click for casting |
| 23:46.39 | Neuro | Clique might be able to =) |
| 23:46.59 | cladhaire | clique can |
| 23:47.23 | cladhaire | but any click-casting addon should be able to |
| 23:47.26 | Neuro | btw, if you set a keybind manually from the console, it's not persistant is it? |
| 23:49.10 | Corrodias | hmm. that lets me control+click on any unitframe to set that person as focus. i was hoping i could also control+click on people in the worldframe to do it. |
| 23:49.29 | cladhaire | nothing can do that currently |
| 23:49.40 | Corrodias | how sad |
| 23:50.07 | cladhaire | keybinds, however can |
| 23:50.07 | Neuro | you could always ask slouken to add that functionality somewhere |
| 23:50.26 | a-stray-cat | maybe you can do a macro /focus [target=mouseover] |
| 23:50.27 | cladhaire | Neuro: Its been asked, and he likes the idea.. just hasn't been figured out yet |
| 23:50.35 | Neuro | ahh |
| 23:51.29 | Thrae | ~seen Iriel |
| 23:51.34 | purl | iriel <n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 17h 10m 39s ago, saying: 'sleep time'. |
| 23:51.34 | Corrodias | perhaps, a-stray-cat, which is a step closer |
| 23:52.09 | a-stray-cat | i was trying to set alt+click to cast silencing shot on my mouseover, but i don't think you can do it :( |
| 23:52.15 | a-stray-cat | settled for a similar macro :( |
| 23:52.28 | cladhaire | you can't click cast any spells in the 3-d world |
| 23:52.30 | cladhaire | its all the same thing |
| 23:52.41 | a-stray-cat | QQirl |
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| 23:52.56 | Neuro | well, that's not entirely true, you just can't do it with mousebutton 1 |
| 23:53.14 | cladhaire | how do you figure? |
| 23:53.35 | Neuro | you could set mousebutton 3 to set focus on your mouseover |
| 23:53.50 | Neuro | either with a macro, or addon |
| 23:53.53 | cladhaire | how? |
| 23:54.23 | nymbia | ./focus mouseover? |
| 23:54.36 | cladhaire | he wants to click-cast on the 3-d world to set the focus |
| 23:54.36 | Neuro | well, the long way would be with a macro, /focus [target=mouseover] |
| 23:54.39 | cladhaire | how do you capture the click? |
| 23:54.43 | Corrodias | x-perl has a unitframe for your focus, but i need to reposition it... |
| 23:54.48 | cladhaire | Neuro: Thats a macro, not a click-cast |
| 23:55.15 | Neuro | that's why I said mousebutton 3, not mouse1 |
| 23:55.19 | cladhaire | you cannot easily capture a click in the 3-d world and do a protected action in response, without extreme hackery |
| 23:55.28 | cladhaire | Neuro: I am so confused. |
| 23:56.13 | cladhaire | Neuro: If you're saying he can use the keybinding interface to set mousebutton3 to a macro button, yes.. but that renders that mouse button 100% useless for the rest of the game |
| 23:56.33 | a-stray-cat | hmmm |
| 23:56.47 | Neuro | depends on what he currently uses the mouse button 3 for |
| 23:57.17 | Neuro | mouse1 is for movement and other critical functions that cannot be replicated by the user, so it's not a good choice |
| 23:57.20 | cladhaire | well its right click |
| 23:57.38 | cladhaire | so he couldn't open menus |
| 23:57.38 | cladhaire | err middle |
| 23:57.38 | Neuro | no, mouse2 is right click |
| 23:57.38 | cladhaire | i lied =) |
| 23:57.41 | Neuro | mouse 3 is middle button |
| 23:57.43 | a-stray-cat | middle is walk forward by default, i think |
| 23:57.52 | cladhaire | hence my lying |
| 23:57.54 | Corrodias | does Clique have a "clear focus" ability? |
| 23:58.00 | Neuro | Now THAT is a waste of a button =) |
| 23:58.19 | cladhaire | Corrodias: Hrm.. no.. i should probably add one.. |
| 23:58.26 | a-stray-cat | hey now, its useful for when one of your fingers is dirty and your other hand is occupied. |
| 23:58.58 | Neuro | sorry, I still prefer just holding both left and right buttons down |
| 23:59.02 | Corrodias | it doesn't make much sense to click -on- someone to clear the focus, but it would still be nice i think to use a similar function to clear it as i use to set it. |
| 23:59.15 | a-stray-cat | but then you'll get one of your mouse buttons dirty! |
| 23:59.28 | Neuro | then stop jerking off while playing wow! |
| 23:59.35 | Corrodias | Unknown unit token: nil |
| 23:59.41 | Corrodias | and i was so hopeful |
| 23:59.46 | Neuro | ? |
