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| 00:05.02 | Qshadowp | hmm, think i figured out the clique thing, now i just need to figure out how to turn of all the frilly stuff in grid |
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| 00:22.54 | Seracht | Hi little problem. When I shift click someone's name. I don't get the detailed information |
| 00:22.54 | Seracht | nor do I get the message that says - You joined [General]/[Trade] |
| 00:23.51 | Seracht | Anyone know whats up with it |
| 00:24.05 | Qshadowp | yea, you have a addon stopping it :P |
| 00:25.28 | Seracht | which one |
| 00:25.40 | Seracht | I only have 3 addons - Bongos, agUnitFrames, BigWigs |
| 00:27.59 | Qshadowp | dunno :P |
| 00:31.19 | Cide | hmm |
| 00:32.45 | Industrial | imho ' |
| 00:33.04 | Industrial | imho 'Bar Mods' could be split up into unitframes and actionbar mods and 'the rest' (castingbar etc) |
| 00:33.06 | Cide | there's no good way to concatenate two lists without recursion or something equally annoying, is there? |
| 00:34.42 | foxlit | Not as far as I know :/ |
| 00:39.02 | Seracht | this is annoying |
| 00:39.19 | Tierrie | use metatables and define a addition operator |
| 00:39.33 | Tierrie | but in the meta table defination you still need to do some recursion i think |
| 00:41.53 | Seracht | Damn it....is it bongos that did this? |
| 00:41.55 | Cide | no point in doing it then |
| 00:41.56 | Seracht | Doubt its agUnitFrames |
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| 00:49.41 | AnduinLothar | for i,v in ipairs(list2) do tinsert(list1,v) end |
| 00:49.49 | Cide | that's a table |
| 00:50.21 | AnduinLothar | technically it's a list, a table with numerical indexes |
| 00:50.32 | Cide | a list is |
| 00:50.39 | Cide | value1, value2, value3, value4, ..., valuen |
| 00:51.04 | AnduinLothar | if you say so |
| 00:51.09 | Cide | ask www.lua.org |
| 00:51.34 | AnduinLothar | then no, there's no way to concatonate unless you know how many objects there are |
| 00:52.17 | Kaelten | table.concat({...}, " ")? |
| 00:52.21 | Kaelten | or something similar |
| 00:52.30 | AnduinLothar | termonology |
| 00:52.33 | AnduinLothar | he means merge |
| 00:52.38 | Cide | that's a string |
| 00:52.53 | AnduinLothar | technically that's concatonation too |
| 00:53.01 | Cide | but not a concatenation of two lists |
| 00:53.07 | AnduinLothar | sure it is |
| 00:53.10 | Cide | no it's not |
| 00:53.22 | AnduinLothar | it's jsut string concatonation and not list concatonation |
| 00:53.34 | AnduinLothar | it's still concatonation |
| 00:53.39 | Cide | but it's not list concatenation |
| 00:53.39 | AnduinLothar | and can take 2 lists |
| 00:53.53 | AnduinLothar | sure it is |
| 00:53.58 | foxlit | duplicates |
| 00:53.59 | Cide | it results in a string |
| 00:54.22 | AnduinLothar | ok but "list concatenation" doesn't specify whether the lists are input or output |
| 00:54.39 | Cide | that uses a table anyway |
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| 00:54.46 | AnduinLothar | made from a list |
| 00:55.30 | Industrial | Anyone here use ag_Unitframes? |
| 00:55.35 | Cide | if tables are involved, there are easier ways anyway |
| 00:55.44 | Cide | I have two lists and need them into one list |
| 00:55.54 | AnduinLothar | not necissarily easier, but more efficient |
| 00:56.00 | foxlit | by lists you mean a1,a2,a3,...an? |
| 00:56.05 | AnduinLothar | concat'ing 2 lists would be table.concat({...}, " ").." "..table.concat({...}, " ") is pretty damn easy |
| 00:56.06 | Cide | foxlit: yes |
| 00:56.26 | AnduinLothar | but results in a string and generates tables as a middle product |
| 00:57.11 | AnduinLothar | but i'm only nit picking because you were nit picking over the elasticity of vocabulary. |
| 00:57.34 | Cide | no, I was merely stating that I didn't want a table |
| 00:57.40 | AnduinLothar | as for list to list concatenation... |
| 00:58.07 | Cide | if you want me to nitpick, concatenation: "To connect or link in a series or chain." - that leads me to believe that the end result should be the same as the components |
| 00:58.20 | Cide | since I mentioned two lists, those are the products and as such, the result should be a list |
| 00:58.20 | AnduinLothar | not necessarily |
| 00:58.24 | AnduinLothar | you're assuming |
| 00:58.52 | Cide | I'm not a linguist, but assuming that conversion of the result is "allowed" under the definition seems more radical to me |
| 00:58.59 | Tierrie | gifts under the tree~! |
| 00:59.05 | Tierrie | is there only 5 gifts? |
| 00:59.23 | Cide | in any case, that's just semantics |
| 00:59.50 | Cide | I have two lists and need to concate them into a single list, without involving tables |
| 00:59.51 | AnduinLothar | not necessarily. you can concat different data types. and invariably it requires a change of at least 1 |
| 01:00.07 | AnduinLothar | the only way to do so is with tail recursion |
| 01:00.19 | AnduinLothar | which means you cant do it in the middle of a function |
| 01:00.30 | Cide | that's because you cast one of the values |
| 01:00.34 | Cide | the concatenation itself is not involved |
| 01:01.06 | AnduinLothar | high level language allows for the casting of one type to be a part of the concat |
| 01:01.14 | Tierrie | Cide is it any faster to reference self.value than ModuleName:value |
| 01:01.30 | Cide | tostring(5) .. tostring(3) - would you say that's an integer concatenation? |
| 01:01.32 | AnduinLothar | yes, self is local |
| 01:02.03 | Cide | because that's the same thing, except the cast is explicit instead of implicit |
| 01:02.21 | AnduinLothar | lua doesn't have integers |
| 01:02.36 | AnduinLothar | it's a number concat |
| 01:02.44 | Cide | the numbers in question were integers |
| 01:02.51 | AnduinLothar | but lua doesn't care |
| 01:02.56 | Cide | now you're arguing for the sake of arguing |
| 01:03.05 | AnduinLothar | or does it |
| 01:03.10 | AnduinLothar | it might care, and just not tell you |
| 01:03.13 | Cide | you didn't answer my question |
| 01:03.15 | AnduinLothar | since it's parent is c |
| 01:03.31 | AnduinLothar | in which case it casts all numbers from it's c equivelent |
| 01:03.36 | AnduinLothar | implicitly |
| 01:03.38 | Cide | tostring(5) .. tostring(3) - would you say that's an integer concatenation? |
| 01:03.53 | AnduinLothar | no, i wouldn't call it a concatenation |
| 01:04.23 | Cide | oh, it is a concatenation |
| 01:04.33 | AnduinLothar | it contains a concatonation |
| 01:04.39 | Qshadowp | ~poke Guillotine |
| 01:04.41 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Guillotine, pokes Guillotine repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 01:04.46 | Guillotine | yes, I'm working on it |
| 01:04.47 | AnduinLothar | but the language doesn't abstract it to just a concatonation |
| 01:04.48 | Guillotine | almost done |
| 01:04.54 | Qshadowp | yay \o/ |
| 01:04.54 | AnduinLothar | now if they were variables |
| 01:04.55 | Cide | AnduinLothar: answer my question |
| 01:05.01 | Qshadowp | gieb Automootic. |
| 01:05.18 | AnduinLothar | and a=1;b=2c=a..b i'd call that a number concat |
| 01:05.20 | Cide | I think you're strafing in circles trying to avoid the inevitable |
| 01:05.42 | foxlit | Concat coerces things to strings anyway |
| 01:05.54 | Cide | AnduinLothar: which proves my point |
| 01:06.05 | AnduinLothar | you're point is that i'm wrong |
| 01:06.11 | Cide | yes |
| 01:06.12 | AnduinLothar | which is not a point |
| 01:06.58 | Cide | my point is that concatenation implies two objects of the same type |
| 01:07.27 | AnduinLothar | i disagree, however. i no longer have time to argue. |
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| 01:14.55 | Guillotine | I keep typing "automottic" instead of automootic :/ |
| 01:15.11 | Guillotine | whoa. theres my problem. the addon just isn't loading |
| 01:19.23 | Guillotine | interesting. I'm getting this: |
| 01:19.25 | Guillotine | 12/25 17:15:34.015 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\Automootic\Automootic.toc |
| 01:19.25 | Guillotine | 12/25 17:15:34.015 (null) |
| 01:19.39 | Guillotine | so... its just not finding my toc file for some reason :/ |
| 01:21.24 | foxlit | Does it exist? Is it empty? |
| 01:21.32 | foxlit | Are there files referenced in it? :) |
| 01:21.45 | Guillotine | yes to all of them |
| 01:21.50 | Guillotine | except the 'is it empty' |
| 01:23.30 | Guillotine | going to try clearing cache files. I accidently had the name as something else at first, so I'm wondering if its getting it wrong due to that |
| 01:25.05 | Guillotine | are the 'logs' files updated in real time or only when you log out? |
| 01:26.15 | foxlit | Probably a mixture |
| 01:30.35 | Guillotine | could anyone look at http://guillotine.pastey.net/3996 and see if theres something glaringly wrong? (its just the TOC, so it'll be real fast) |
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| 01:31.51 | foxlit | It seems fine. |
| 01:32.06 | foxlit | Version: and Author: are pretty useless, since you can only access X-Version and X-Author if memory serves |
| 01:32.47 | Guillotine | its for my own use in making sure I'm not testing with an old version :P |
| 01:32.55 | Guillotine | which you well know happens to me |
| 01:33.31 | foxlit | zip it up and upload it somewhere, let's see if the problem is local to you |
| 01:35.24 | Guillotine | http://www.hackwow.com/guillotine/mods/Automootic.zip |
| 01:35.26 | Imrcly | make sure your folder and toc file name are the same |
| 01:35.42 | Guillotine | if you even get the "Automootic loaded" message, you're doing better than me |
| 01:35.48 | Guillotine | Imrcly: first thing I checked ;) |
| 01:35.54 | Guillotine | and it was wrong, so I fixed it |
| 01:35.59 | Guillotine | but its still giving error |
| 01:36.09 | Guillotine | which led me to believe it was the cache, but I cleared that and still not loading |
| 01:36.19 | Cide | maybe it's not interpreting ".1" correctly? |
| 01:36.42 | Imrcly | don't you need a xml file to load the lua? |
| 01:36.47 | Cide | Imrcly: no |
| 01:36.47 | Guillotine | no |
| 01:36.56 | Cide | Guillotine: try replacing ".1" with "0.1" |
| 01:37.30 | Imrcly | i have to on mine now you are making me wonder why i had to have it |
| 01:37.41 | Cide | it got changed some patches ago |
| 01:37.52 | Guillotine | now you just create a frame with lua |
| 01:38.09 | Guillotine | doubt that'll fix it, just made the BA addon that uses the same number and it works fine |
| 01:38.13 | Guillotine | but I'm trying it |
| 01:38.19 | Guillotine | nope, same thing |
| 01:40.39 | Qshadowp | uhh just out of intrest did anyone ever make a easy addon installer? |
| 01:40.44 | Qshadowp | for the people that dont have a clue what a zip file is |
| 01:41.17 | bleetah | then you'd need an easymode addon for the easymode addon installer |
| 01:41.22 | Guillotine | haha |
| 01:41.26 | bleetah | because people would still be too stupid to do a little research |
| 01:41.28 | Qshadowp | bleetah good point :) |
| 01:41.46 | Guillotine | we could make it so easy that it auto-installs itself on your computer. Its an auto-addon-installer virus! |
| 01:41.46 | Qshadowp | was just asking for a friend of mine who doesn't know what a zip is |
| 01:41.50 | Qshadowp | guess i'll have to talk him through it |
| 01:42.30 | bleetah | save us from the stupid computer users |
| 01:42.34 | bleetah | no offense to your friend |
| 01:42.54 | bleetah | just one of my pet peeves, the dumbing down of computer 'studies' in highschool, etc. |
| 01:43.12 | Guillotine | It appears that blizzard has a ban that doesn't allow the name Automootic. I completely replaced all files with a VERY simple thing that only put a big message on screen. nothing |
| 01:43.48 | bleetah | "ooh, i got a higher distinction in computer studies in high school' .. 'oh great, can you do this little database please? need it tomorrow' 'um, i can draw pictures in paint and move them around in powerpoint' |
| 01:44.01 | Qshadowp | Guillotine :( |
| 01:44.13 | Qshadowp | you mean they have something specific against the name automootic? |
| 01:44.16 | Qshadowp | or the addon just doesn't work |
| 01:44.48 | Guillotine | it seems its the name :P I just completely remade it with it doing nothing but "message("TEST")" and it does nothing |
| 01:44.51 | Guillotine | still gets a toc error |
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| 01:45.07 | Qshadowp | strange :| |
| 01:45.38 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:45.40 | cladhaire | Hewwo |
| 01:45.44 | Qshadowp | cladhaire, when your not busy would you mind helping me set up grid\Clique so that its like whack a mole for a mage? |
| 01:45.56 | cladhaire | hrm? |
| 01:46.09 | Qshadowp | cladhaire you wrote clique didn't you? :D |
| 01:46.34 | cladhaire | yes |
| 01:46.40 | cladhaire | i'm just not sure what you're asking |
| 01:46.50 | Guillotine | he wants you to hold his hand and teach him how to use clique |
| 01:46.52 | Qshadowp | uhh, grid being a raid unit frame |
| 01:46.58 | Qshadowp | cladhaire, what Guillotine said. |
| 01:47.04 | cladhaire | oh, have you seen the videos? |
| 01:47.10 | Qshadowp | nope |
| 01:47.12 | Guillotine | no, thats too much work |
| 01:47.16 | cladhaire | well watch them |
| 01:47.20 | Qshadowp | didn't see any |
| 01:47.26 | cladhaire | i won't talk to you until you've done that, or read the instructions =) |
| 01:47.28 | cladhaire | go to wowi |
| 01:47.29 | cladhaire | ~clique |
| 01:47.30 | purl | rumour has it, clique is a click-casting addon by Cladhaire, which you can download from WoWInterface: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5108-Clique.html |
| 01:47.42 | Qshadowp | thanks :P |
| 01:52.50 | Qshadowp | ah, don't think clique does what i want :P |
| 01:52.56 | cladhaire | what do you want? |
| 01:53.08 | Qshadowp | something to hook onto my unit frames |
| 01:53.12 | Qshadowp | to click to decurse the person |
| 01:53.19 | Qshadowp | basically, im trying to get a mages decurseing grid :P |
| 01:53.24 | Cide | that's exactly what it does |
| 01:53.40 | Qshadowp | im watching the video and all i can see is stuff about clicking the players portrait :p |
| 01:53.57 | Cide | the player frame is just an example |
| 01:54.10 | Cide | it's up to the individual addon to support it |
| 01:54.23 | cladhaire | install clique |
| 01:54.25 | cladhaire | install grid |
| 01:54.31 | cladhaire | set clique to decurse on some click |
| 01:54.33 | cladhaire | profit! |
| 01:54.34 | Qshadowp | oh i see, i have to disable every single frame apart from the one i want :p |
| 01:54.40 | Cide | cladhaire: you missed the "???" |
| 01:54.49 | cladhaire | heh |
| 01:55.29 | Qshadowp | cladhaire next version of clique, add a untick\tick all button :P |
| 01:55.40 | Imrcly | so i need click and grid |
| 01:55.56 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:56.06 | Qshadowp | why oh why can't someone just make a simple addon that does decurseing :( |
| 01:56.12 | cladhaire | ... |
| 01:56.17 | Imrcly | thats botting |
| 01:56.25 | Qshadowp | cladhaire no offense :P |
| 01:56.27 | Imrcly | im glad decursive was blocked |
| 01:56.37 | Qshadowp | Imrcly im talking about a decurseing grid, like what im trying to do |
| 01:56.49 | Cide | depending on interpretation, that's either illegal (in wow-terms) or clique |
| 01:56.50 | Qshadowp | as far as i know you can still do this, and i think theres something like this in RDX (but im not paying for it) :P |
| 01:56.56 | foxlit | Write one, q. |
| 01:57.05 | foxlit | "Automootic loaded" |
| 01:57.15 | Qshadowp | heh :P |
| 01:57.36 | Qshadowp | What im after is something like raid frames, so you've got your 40 man raid in a kind of grid\raid frame thing |
| 01:57.42 | Qshadowp | green frame = not curse, red frame = cursed |
| 01:57.45 | Qshadowp | click for decurse |
| 01:57.51 | Qshadowp | or something similar, along those lines :p |
| 01:57.53 | cladhaire | thats absolutely trivial to write |
| 01:57.54 | axxo | so get grid and tweak thje options |
| 01:58.01 | Qshadowp | heh ok :P |
| 01:58.09 | Qshadowp | cladhaire write it for me and i'll give you cookies? :D |
| 01:58.23 | cladhaire | my users would be pissed if i wrote that before releasing praid |
| 01:58.27 | Qshadowp | and all the mages in wow will love you? because nobodys actually done it yet lol |
| 01:58.39 | cladhaire | meh |
| 01:58.44 | cladhaire | everyone seems to get along just fine |
| 01:58.54 | cladhaire | since every raid frame on the planet can display who needs to be decursed. |
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| 01:59.15 | Qshadowp | yea, but i don't wanna have to watch for every single type of decurse thats possible. |
| 01:59.20 | cladhaire | ... |
| 01:59.22 | cladhaire | you dont need to |
| 01:59.23 | Qshadowp | in a tiny little buff frame :P |
| 01:59.25 | cladhaire | have you ever played the game before? |
| 01:59.27 | cladhaire | no offense. |
| 01:59.29 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 01:59.37 | cladhaire | ctra will only display who is debuffed with curses. |
| 01:59.40 | Imrcly | mages don't need decursive |
| 01:59.40 | Qshadowp | sorry the only real raid frame im used to is CT Raid and perl :p |
| 01:59.46 | cladhaire | its been that way since the game was released. |
| 01:59.47 | Qshadowp | and i never really fiddled with it |
| 01:59.53 | cladhaire | well that's good, cause ctra does it with one tick mark |
| 02:00.03 | cladhaire | here's what you do |
| 02:00.11 | cladhaire | set up CTRA to display debuffs, only curses. |
| 02:00.17 | cladhaire | then set clique to shift-left click to remove curse |
| 02:00.21 | cladhaire | don't have to uncheck anything |
| 02:00.37 | Qshadowp | cool :P |
| 02:00.44 | cladhaire | then shift-click on any unit frame will decurse |
| 02:00.48 | cladhaire | your player, party, raid, anything. |
| 02:01.15 | Qshadowp | oh yea thats the other thing, if i bind it to ctra frames, does it auto target still? |
| 02:01.40 | cladhaire | no |
| 02:01.42 | cladhaire | its targetless |
| 02:01.46 | cladhaire | well |
| 02:01.47 | cladhaire | yes |
| 02:01.48 | cladhaire | they will target |
| 02:01.51 | cladhaire | just don't re-bind left-click |
| 02:01.53 | cladhaire | make decurse somethign else. |
| 02:02.20 | Qshadowp | ah see i don't really want all this shift clicking stuff, i just want a little box that i click to decurse the person if there cursed :P |
| 02:02.43 | Cide | then rebind left-click |
| 02:02.58 | cladhaire | but then you can't target |
| 02:02.58 | Cide | all he's saying is that if you want to be able to target still, you can; otherwise, you can rebind left-click and you won't |
| 02:03.00 | Qshadowp | but i don't wanna rebind my left click either :p |
| 02:03.06 | cladhaire | i'm not writing the mod for you |
| 02:03.08 | cladhaire | and it doesn't exist |
| 02:03.12 | Cide | rebind right-click then |
| 02:03.13 | Qshadowp | lol im not asking you to :P |
| 02:03.15 | cladhaire | you have to make some concession. |
| 02:03.20 | cladhaire | yes you are, actually =) |
| 02:03.29 | Qshadowp | well, i did once but now im just discussing it :P |
| 02:03.43 | Qshadowp | and trying to figure out how exactly clique\grid can do it for me :p |
| 02:04.20 | Qshadowp | so the basic question being, can Clique hook my raid frames, so that when someone is decursed i click there raid frame, it targets and decurses them |
| 02:04.26 | Qshadowp | (without rebinding any of my clicks) |
| 02:04.35 | Guillotine | alright, I think I got it |
| 02:04.39 | cladhaire | yes, with a macro |
| 02:04.44 | Guillotine | it looks like somehow there was an invisible char in the folder name |
| 02:04.47 | Guillotine | was corrupted or something |
| 02:04.53 | Guillotine | but I just moved it to new folder and it works o.O |
| 02:04.53 | Qshadowp | Guillotine hehe :P |
| 02:04.54 | foxlit | Worked out of the zip, though |
| 02:05.00 | Guillotine | foxlit: it did? |
| 02:05.00 | Qshadowp | cladhaire, can you explain please? :) |
| 02:05.05 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 02:05.16 | foxlit | Although it did moo something about Automootic_Database and nil on line 38 |
| 02:05.22 | cladhaire | write a macro using clique, /target mouseover /cast Remove Lesser Curse |
| 02:06.03 | Qshadowp | hmm nah thats not it either, i don't want to mouse over people |
| 02:06.09 | cladhaire | you dobnt need to |
| 02:06.11 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 02:06.21 | cladhaire | that macro |
| 02:06.25 | cladhaire | does what you want |
| 02:06.26 | cladhaire | bind it in clique |
| 02:06.30 | cladhaire | to leftclick |
| 02:07.18 | Qshadowp | uhh, how do i go about binding a macro in clique |
| 02:07.26 | Qshadowp | it doesn't pick up on me clicking the macro, like the spells ;P |
| 02:07.34 | Guillotine | Qshadowp: its REAL self explanatory |
| 02:08.07 | Qshadowp | lol maybe it is but i just don't get it :P |
| 02:08.12 | cladhaire | 1. OpenSpellbook, 2. Open Clique UI 3. Click the "Custom" button 4.) Select the "macro" radio button 5.) enter the macro i listed above in the "Macro Text" box. |
| 02:08.13 | cladhaire | thenh you're done. |
| 02:08.38 | Imrcly | in the time that you have been botherin cladhaire i have installed and setup click/grid to debuf on click and won an av |
| 02:08.56 | Qshadowp | cladhaire thanks :p |
| 02:12.47 | Industrial | I need help with my hunter spec, Im now 18 and I gues that what I have now is not right for leveling up; http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mbZVM |
| 02:13.14 | Industrial | respec is not a problem, I actually got almost 4g just from doing quests :-O |
| 02:14.42 | Imrcly | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mVZV is what i would do |
| 02:16.45 | Qshadowp | think i got it working now :) |
| 02:17.00 | Qshadowp | cladhaire thanks for supporting my noobish power, if you ever need help with mIRC Scripting give me a call lol :P |
| 02:17.06 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:17.10 | cladhaire | i'm fine, thanks =) |
| 02:17.14 | Qshadowp | :) |
| 02:17.56 | Tierrie | how do i set up a mirc script that makes your computer go "ding" everything i say "qshadowp" |
| 02:18.50 | Qshadowp | on *:INPUT:#:{ if (qshadowp isin $1-) { play -w ding.wav } |
| 02:19.03 | Qshadowp | you'll have to put a wav file called Ding.wav in your mIRC folder for that to work though. |
| 02:19.38 | Tierrie | don't i first need to gain access to your computer? |
| 02:20.00 | Qshadowp | i thought you meant, every time you type qshadowp your computer dings :P |
| 02:20.14 | End | no, we only want Qshadowp's computer to ding |
| 02:20.17 | Tierrie | oh no, anyone can do that |
| 02:20.19 | Qshadowp | if you want to make my computer go ding |
| 02:20.30 | End | Qshadowp Qshadowp Qshadowp Qshadowp Qshadowp |
| 02:20.31 | Qshadowp | uhh i dunno if i really wanna tell you how to do that :( |
| 02:21.21 | Qshadowp | its actually possible to make someone elses mIRC beep lol |
| 02:21.21 | foxlit | purl, comfort Qshadowp |
| 02:21.26 | purl | There, there, Qshadowp. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 02:21.37 | Qshadowp | provideing they havn't switched it off in there mIRC options lol |
| 02:21.40 | Tierrie | ok so dilemma |
| 02:22.00 | Tierrie | i want to rewrite the whole mod from ground up this will take like 2 months or so |
| 02:22.07 | Tierrie | but i will not be writing mods when TBC is released |
| 02:22.09 | Tierrie | should i start? |
| 02:22.28 | Guillotine | Tierrie: what mod? |
| 02:23.43 | Tierrie | DHUD, I want to make it more flexible |
| 02:24.11 | Qshadowp | Tierrie i like dhud :) |
| 02:24.24 | Qshadowp | the only problem with it, is it seriously needs a text box to set the x offset |
| 02:24.31 | Tierrie | me too but its configurability is constrained by the fact that the layout is static |
| 02:24.58 | Qshadowp | because i like it more than metahud, but. i can't use it because i use 2 screens |
| 02:25.13 | Qshadowp | so the middle of my screen is half way between the 2, and -300 is the far right of my char :( |
| 02:25.14 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+v MentalPower|PC] by ChanServ |
| 02:25.45 | Tierrie | I also have to send a mail to Drathal to ask if he will let me continue to develop v2 under the same name or if he wants me to change it :P |
| 02:25.48 | Qshadowp | Guillotine im addicted to your mod now |
| 02:26.16 | Guillotine | I know :( It doesn't help you stop jumping at all |
| 02:27.03 | Qshadowp | :P |
| 02:27.10 | Qshadowp | Guillotine did you write the counter for it yet? |
| 02:34.18 | Guillotine | no, I've been working on mootic :P |
| 02:34.35 | Qshadowp | hehe :P |
| 02:34.37 | Guillotine | doing something wrong with the database |
| 02:34.40 | Guillotine | probably another typo |
| 02:35.25 | Qshadowp | cladhaire another question, i disabled all the frames, apart from the raid frames as i only want clique to fiddle with the raid frames, but now when i left click my character portrait, it shows my character menu? |
| 02:35.41 | Qshadowp | (my character menu, and my portrait are completely diffrent addons, Grid and perl) |
| 02:35.47 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 02:35.51 | cladhaire | clique does nothign with left click |
| 02:35.53 | cladhaire | unless you tell it to |
| 02:36.06 | Qshadowp | well the only thing i have it on is leftclick with that macro :P |
| 02:36.21 | Qshadowp | and in the Clique frame editor, the only things ticked are Grid... |
| 02:36.23 | cladhaire | reload.. same thing? |
| 02:36.25 | cladhaire | probably an issue with perl |
| 02:36.34 | cladhaire | which wouldn't shock me |
| 02:36.40 | cladhaire | i bet they're not using attribtues for the menu |
| 02:36.46 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 02:37.31 | Qshadowp | ahh, someone else has posted with the same bug on your forums :P |
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| 02:48.22 | Guillotine | hmm. I must have blanked out. whats wrong with this: |
| 02:48.32 | Guillotine | AutomooticDatabase["Guillotine"] = Guillotine |
| 02:48.37 | Guillotine | sry, = "Guillotine" |
| 02:48.55 | foxlit | You have an underscore in Automootic_Database |
| 02:51.01 | Qshadowp | :P |
| 02:51.19 | Guillotine | wow |
| 02:51.21 | Guillotine | theres my problem |
| 02:51.47 | Guillotine | wait, no I don't |
| 02:52.48 | MentalPower|PC | Guillotine: whats the error? |
| 02:52.53 | Guillotine | no error |
| 02:52.57 | Guillotine | its just not affecting the variable |
| 02:53.23 | MentalPower|PC | you sure its not Automatic? |
| 02:53.32 | Guillotine | no, its Automootic ;) |
| 02:53.36 | Guillotine | it automatically moos at tauren |
| 02:53.42 | Guillotine | hence, automootic |
| 02:53.44 | MentalPower|PC | ok, just making sure :P |
| 02:53.56 | Qshadowp | hehe :P |
| 02:54.07 | Qshadowp | running around arathi basin going boing! :D |
| 02:54.19 | MentalPower|PC | so AutomooticDatabase["Guillotine"] = "Guillotine" |
| 02:54.35 | Guillotine | yes. then /dump AutomooticDatabase with devtools |
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| 02:55.00 | MentalPower|PC | and DT says no returns? |
| 02:55.22 | Imrcly | in common "ag ee oo p" = "me lo ve u" to the horde |
| 02:55.32 | Guillotine | correct |
| 02:55.57 | Guillotine | AutomooticDatabase = nil |
| 02:56.26 | Tierrie | is VARIABLES_LOADED and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD always fired in a particular order? |
| 02:56.42 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.29 | Qshadowp | Imrcly, i use GT AS SD D A P (ME LO VE Y O U) |
| 02:57.36 | Qshadowp | i tested that with a friend, level 1's ftw. |
| 02:57.44 | Guillotine | still nil Cide |
| 02:57.50 | Guillotine | hmm. I bet somewhere I'm resetting it every tick |
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| 02:58.11 | Cide | if you did that the way I wrote it, OnUpdate won't matter |
| 02:58.29 | Imrcly | no wonder its so hard to get the language translated multiple things come up as the same thing |
| 02:58.41 | Guillotine | well its still returning nil |
| 02:59.09 | Imrcly | i have 2 accounts so i know mine works |
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| 02:59.40 | Imrcly | i want to add "long time" to the end |
| 03:04.29 | Guillotine | hmm. now the exact same thing I did before is working all of a sudden |
| 03:05.22 | Qshadowp | hehe, this addon combined with my g15 macro is just funny |
| 03:05.29 | Qshadowp | i have a G15 macro to spam jump :D |
| 03:05.38 | Qshadowp | so i just put the spam jump macro on, and go about my daily business |
| 03:09.54 | Guillotine | I make FAR too many typos :( |
| 03:09.58 | Guillotine | and it takes forever for me to find them |
| 03:10.03 | Guillotine | things like , instead of . |
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| 03:10.51 | subbawt | is there a LUA function that converts the number 61 to 1minute 1sec, or something like that? |
| 03:11.53 | Guillotine | not really. easy to write one though |
| 03:11.54 | Tierrie | no but you can just do simple arithmetic |
| 03:12.11 | subbawt | bleh |
| 03:12.15 | bleetah | does wowwiki try to avoid gold selling ads from googleads on their site? or is there nothing wowwiki can do? |
| 03:14.07 | bleetah | one would assume you can control the ads to block innapropriate content for any particular given site |
| 03:15.33 | Guillotine | something is seriously f-d up with my computer. scripts that worked a moment ago no longer work |
| 03:15.41 | Guillotine | and half of everyone looks naked |
| 03:18.37 | Guillotine | according to the repair tool, WoW is seriously damaged and needs to be reverted to a previous version :/ |
| 03:18.52 | Guillotine | Qshadow: you may want to go to sleep and get a copy of Automootic in the morning |
| 03:19.23 | Tierrie | does anyone know what the state headers are for Bongos |
| 03:19.34 | Tierrie | is it S1 S2 like Bt3? |
| 03:19.35 | Qshadowp | maybe :( |
| 03:20.20 | Guillotine | ya, its S1,S2 |
| 03:20.26 | Guillotine | S3 doesn't work last I heard |
| 03:20.36 | Guillotine | wait, Bongos? not sure |
| 03:23.42 | seebs | Bleetah: Actually, you can't block content. You can block SPECIFIC SITES, but gold sellers spawn new ones constantly. |
| 03:24.10 | seebs | I know a Christian BBS where a number of users have quit because the pro-life chatters are always getting abortion ads from Google. |
| 03:24.55 | Cide | you can block content |
| 03:25.16 | Cide | but it requires you to be a part of google's beta testing program, which is only available to larger sites |
| 03:25.58 | bleetah | buttcakes |
| 03:26.22 | bleetah | (that it's almost 2007, and google can't do that yet without having a beta) |
| 03:26.23 | Guillotine | Alright, the WoW repair tool says that it can't revert and that I should try deleting Patch.mpq. Only problem is that there is no longer a Patch.mpq as of 2.0 |
| 03:26.49 | bleetah | Guillotine: rename your WoW folder, re-install? |
| 03:27.00 | Guillotine | but reinstalling takes so long :( |
| 03:27.19 | bleetah | thanks for reminding me, i need to check for a patch anything -> 2.0.1 |
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| 03:31.07 | bleetah | nope, only a 1.12 standalone. so, yerk, d/l anything -> 1.12, then 1.12 -> 2.0.1. |
| 03:31.12 | bleetah | i see what you mean, could take a while |
| 03:32.08 | bleetah | i guess it would just make sense to delay a master patch until BC release occurs |
| 03:33.18 | Tain | Happy hollar-days. |
| 03:35.38 | bleetah | same to you :) |
| 03:38.52 | End-food | uh oh |
| 03:39.05 | End | apparently my AddOn called forbidden method UNKNOWN |
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| 03:40.29 | End | (traceback says that it's actually UseAction though) |
| 03:42.53 | Qshadowp | i logged in, wrote a really long post, clicked post |
| 03:42.59 | Qshadowp | and it sent me to the login again |
| 03:43.03 | Qshadowp | logged in, wrote my post again. |
| 03:43.12 | Qshadowp | and now its saying ???wow.web.forums.error500.message??? |
| 03:43.17 | Qshadowp | :< |
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| 03:54.07 | Guillotine | ehh... shouldn't the all -> 1.12 be bigger than 2.28 MB? |
| 03:55.52 | Thunder_Child | u is a jacobteen |
| 03:56.08 | bleetah | all -> 1.12 is around 476Mb |
| 03:56.11 | Thunder_Child | mt |
| 03:56.22 | bleetah | maybe you rightclicked to save link as, and saved a webpage, instead of a file |
| 03:58.37 | Guillotine | oh, thats why. They were just hosting the updater :/ thats useless |
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| 04:00.03 | bleetah | Guillotine: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01810p |
| 04:00.35 | Guillotine | most of those have queues though so I use the ones listed on wowwiki |
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| 04:33.37 | Guillotine | irc borked :( |
| 04:34.18 | End | hmmm |
| 04:35.10 | End | what are the conditions that setfenv() can't be used? |
| 04:35.40 | End | 'setfenv' cannot change the enviroment of given object |
| 04:36.03 | End | and as far as I can tell, it's a function, but I can't use setfenv on it |
| 04:38.53 | End | so, apparently you can't use sefenv() on a c function (but that's expected) |
| 04:42.00 | Guillotine | I just came up with the best idea. With a small donation of 5$ or 15g, I will name a variable after you! |
| 04:42.28 | End | lol |
| 04:42.31 | Inside | XD nice |
| 04:42.42 | Guillotine | Inside_IsDebug |
| 04:42.49 | Guillotine | looking good, isn't it? |
| 04:43.21 | Inside | your idea intrigues me, I will give you that |
| 04:44.15 | Guillotine | I'm tempted to post this on the WoW boards and see what type of responses I get |
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| 04:46.31 | Tierrie | whats the difference between Module.Var, Module:Var and Module["Var"] |
| 04:48.52 | End | Module.Var is the same as Module[Var] |
| 04:49.07 | End | Module:Var() would call Module.Var(Module) |
| 04:49.14 | Guillotine | no, its the same as Module["Var"] |
| 04:49.20 | End | er |
| 04:49.25 | End | what Guillotine said |
| 04:49.26 | Guillotine | with the [], you can use variables |
| 04:49.41 | Guillotine | with the ".", its with a set index |
| 04:49.52 | Tierrie | and Module:Var? |
| 04:49.54 | Guillotine | but if you're using a set index like your question implies, those two are pretty much the same |
| 04:50.02 | Guillotine | what End said for that :) |
| 04:50.16 | End | Module:Var by itself isn't valid, but you can use it to call a function on Module |
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| 04:53.03 | End | arg |
| 04:53.49 | End | I think this issue of mine is one for the forums |
| 04:57.45 | MentalPower|PC | is there a reason why "SELECT column1, column2, column3 FROM someTable" works but "SELECT ALL FROM someTable" doesn't? |
| 04:58.02 | End | SELECT * FROM someTable |
| 04:58.12 | MentalPower|PC | duh!! |
| 04:58.15 | End | unless ALL is a column, ALL wouldn't work |
| 04:58.18 | MentalPower|PC | ~smack me |
| 04:58.22 | purl | ACTION smacks mentalpower|pc upside the head. |
| 04:58.22 | End | :) |
| 04:58.56 | MentalPower|PC | any idea what ALL is? (http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/select.html) |
| 04:59.42 | End | maybe SELECT ALL blah FROM blah |
| 04:59.48 | End | dunno what it would do though |
| 05:00.02 | MentalPower|PC | ah, found it |
| 05:00.04 | MentalPower|PC | The ALL, DISTINCT, and DISTINCTROW options specify whether duplicate rows should be returned. If none of these options are given, the default is ALL (all matching rows are returned). DISTINCT and DISTINCTROW are synonyms and specify removal of duplicate rows from the result set. |
| 05:00.13 | End | ah |
| 05:00.21 | End | so ALL is default |
| 05:00.38 | MentalPower|PC | seems so |
| 05:02.15 | MentalPower|PC | note to self, do not perform that query on an SSH on large tables... |
| 05:03.08 | MentalPower|PC | thank god for CTRL+C |
| 05:05.14 | End | lol |
| 05:09.04 | Tierrie | there's no autovivification in lua? |
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| 05:11.33 | ckknight | Tierrie: what's autovivication? |
| 05:12.54 | Tierrie | if you create a variable MyVar.key1.key2.key3 = value, it creates MyVar.key1 for you, then it creates MyVar.key1.key2 for you and then MyVar.key1.key2.key3 for you and then sets value to that |
| 05:13.18 | bleetah | ckknight: I cheated.. "Autovivification is the automatic creation of a reference when an undefined value is dereferenced." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autovivification |
| 05:13.35 | bleetah | Native in Perl, and I think Ruby does (or can do) it too |
| 05:13.55 | ckknight | Tierrie: oh, okay. you can do it with metatable madness. AceDB has a way that allows you to do it in databases |
| 05:13.58 | End | I suppose you might be able to simulate it using metatables |
| 05:14.08 | Tierrie | i am trying to do metatables atm |
| 05:14.34 | Tierrie | but its not the same -- you have to create the reference in the metatable or else rewrite __index so that it creates it |
| 05:14.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's a lot of crap on the UI forums about preformed AV |
| 05:14.41 | Tierrie | trying to figure out how to use metatables atm |
| 05:14.57 | bleetah | crap being the operative word |
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| 05:21.04 | Tierrie | oooh lua crashed wow :P |
| 05:21.07 | Tierrie | is this possible :P |
| 05:21.15 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59491413&postId=592560596&sid=1#0 <-- I may be sadistic, but I enjoyed making that post |
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| 05:24.11 | Tierrie | note to self and others, do not setmetatable(_G,... ) |
| 05:25.13 | MentalPower|PC | considering that there is no _G defined in WoW, that should throw an error |
| 05:31.07 | ckknight | MentalPower: it actually is now. |
| 05:31.16 | MentalPower|PC | oh rly? |
| 05:31.19 | ckknight | yep |
| 05:31.23 | MentalPower|PC | interesting |
| 05:31.29 | ckknight | Tierrie: btw, I've done that |
| 05:32.06 | MentalPower|PC | should post a bug report on the UI forums, since Lua should *never* be able to crash WoW |
| 05:33.18 | End | well |
| 05:33.23 | End | I figured out my problem |
| 05:33.31 | End | well sort of figured out |
| 05:33.47 | End | someone else is messing with functions, and making them so I can't use setfenv on them |
| 05:33.57 | KiphereCE | happy christmas all. |
| 05:34.04 | KiphereCE | if its still christmas where you're at ;P |
| 05:34.23 | End | oh |
| 05:34.26 | End | I know why I think |
| 05:34.28 | KiphereCE | hope you all made out well, time to go sleep off my christmas beer, errr cheer. |
| 05:34.31 | Tierrie | would this be helpful End? http://www.lua.org/pil/14.3.html |
| 05:34.50 | End | no |
| 05:35.03 | End | hooksecurefunc is my problem |
| 05:35.14 | End | (I think) |
| 05:35.23 | End | it works without addons |
| 05:35.30 | End | and they are still "function"s |
| 05:36.18 | Tierrie | I have a sudden urge to name something Wilberforce |
| 05:36.52 | End | fuck, it's not hooksecurefunc |
| 05:37.34 | End | but it's definitely an addon |
| 05:37.34 | Imrcly | wilberforce sounds like a random word generator |
| 05:37.36 | MentalPower|PC | I was under the impression that you can't setfenv a C function from Lua |
| 05:37.43 | End | you can't |
| 05:37.50 | End | but they aren't C functions |
| 05:38.19 | End | they are ordinary functions declared by the lua api |
| 05:38.20 | End | er |
| 05:38.36 | End | they are ordinary functions declared by the FrameXML lua |
| 05:39.08 | MentalPower|PC | perhaps "secure" functions behave as C functions in that respect? |
| 05:39.16 | MentalPower|PC | it woudn't surprise me |
| 05:39.26 | End | well, I can setfenv without any addons installed |
| 05:39.37 | End | but I can't with all my addons installed |
| 05:39.52 | End | thus my theory about hooksecurefunc |
| 05:39.56 | MentalPower|PC | grep for setfenv? |
| 05:40.09 | End | grep in what? |
| 05:40.53 | MentalPower|PC | hmm... nm |
| 05:41.00 | MentalPower|PC | test out your theory |
| 05:41.07 | End | I did |
| 05:41.10 | End | it's not hooksecurefunc |
| 05:41.14 | Tem | maybe hooksecurefunc replaces the lua function with a C function |
| 05:41.20 | End | but it's no hooksecurefunc |
| 05:41.20 | MentalPower|PC | ok... |
| 05:41.32 | End | unless I did the test wrong :P |
| 05:41.57 | Tem | at the very least, you shouldn't be able to setfevn on a secure function without tainting it |
| 05:42.27 | End | yeah, but the setfenv fails and I'm just getting an error entirely |
| 05:42.38 | Tem | but I wouldn't be surprized if you just coudln't do it at all |
| 05:42.48 | End | well |
| 05:42.57 | Tem | actually... |
| 05:43.00 | End | that doesn't explain why the AddOns I have installed make a difference |
| 05:43.22 | Tem | it shouldn't taint the execution unless it reads from the `global` table |
| 05:43.34 | End | that'd make sense |
| 05:43.46 | Tem | function() local blah = 12 return blah end shouldn't be tainted |
| 05:44.03 | MentalPower|PC | it is, because its created in tainted code |
| 05:44.18 | Tem | (if that were a secure function to begin with) |
| 05:44.50 | Tem | MentalPower|PC, I'm just saying that only calling setfevn on that function shouldn't effect it's trustedness |
| 05:45.17 | Tierrie | can you store SavedVariables as part of a module? like MyMod:Settings = {} ? |
| 05:45.24 | MentalPower|PC | I woudn't be so sure, but you can also test that out |
| 05:45.29 | End | hmmm |
| 05:45.40 | MentalPower|PC | issecurevar |
| 05:45.45 | Tem | MentalPower|PC, I'm making a guess based on how tainting works wrt to metatables |
| 05:46.00 | Tem | setting a table's metatable doesn't taint it |
| 05:46.07 | MentalPower|PC | true |
| 05:46.10 | Tem | but the moment the metatable gets used, it's tainted |
| 05:46.26 | Tem | s/it's/that execution path is/ |
| 05:46.31 | End | ok, I'm just really bad at doing tests |
| 05:46.41 | End | it looks like hooksecurefunc -is- the problem |
| 05:46.55 | Tierrie | End: lol :) |
| 05:47.34 | End | I'm going to document that in the wiki |
| 05:47.55 | Tierrie | how do I create a reference from MyMod:MyVar to MyMod_MyVar? The assignment copies the value, but I'd like to create a reference |
| 05:48.03 | Tem | so what's the deal, End? |
| 05:48.05 | Tierrie | I meant MyMod.MyVar of course |
| 05:48.15 | Tem | if you hooksecurefunc, you can't setfenv? |
| 05:48.19 | End | yup |
| 05:48.29 | Tierrie | nice find |
| 05:48.34 | End | I must have gotten my wires crossed when I tried testing it the first time |
| 05:48.47 | End | something about not having a tinypad or luaslinger like addon |
| 05:48.52 | Tem | at least it's not the other way around |
| 05:49.16 | End | it wouldn't make sense the other way around |
| 05:49.26 | Tem | no, it wouldn't |
| 05:49.29 | End | although... |
| 05:49.39 | Tem | but setfenv is pretty useless on a secure function |
| 05:49.56 | End | they aren't really secure functions best I can tell |
| 05:50.13 | Tem | anything defined by blizzard is a secure function |
| 05:50.13 | End | I completely replaced one of them earlier, and everything seemed to work fine... |
| 05:50.20 | End | well I mean |
| 05:50.30 | End | it doesn't require secure-ness to work properly |
| 05:50.34 | Tem | ah |
| 05:50.45 | End | I need to modify behavior of something just slightly |
| 05:51.11 | End | and I can do that by changing one function, but I can't change that function -everywhere- |
| 05:51.27 | End | because that function needs to be secure |
| 05:52.33 | Tem | so.... think about a different approach |
| 05:52.43 | Tem | oh damnit, I have to sleep |
| 05:52.45 | End | well |
| 05:52.46 | Tem | annoying habit |
| 05:52.51 | End | there's the long ass approach |
| 05:52.54 | Tem | heh |
| 05:52.57 | Tem | I feel your pain |
| 05:53.06 | End | but it's a lot of replaced code, so I wondered if setfenv would work :P |
| 05:53.19 | Tem | why not just change the global? |
| 05:53.31 | End | because needs-to-be-secure code calls it |
| 05:53.49 | Tem | I mean the global that you're using setfenv to change |
| 05:53.59 | End | because needs-to-be-secure code calls it |
| 05:54.11 | Tem | I see |
| 05:54.52 | End | hmm |
| 05:55.15 | End | the lua version of the function still exists, it just has a wrapper around it |
| 05:57.41 | Tierrie | so I don't suppose there's a way to create a reference instead of copying the value? |
| 06:00.15 | End | tables, strings and functions are always "by reference" |
| 06:00.35 | End | although, strings and functions are immutable |
| 06:00.46 | Tierrie | so if i were to do a = 1, b = a, b = 1, what is a? |
| 06:00.54 | Tierrie | uhm what a horrible example |
| 06:01.00 | End | a = 1 |
| 06:01.01 | Tierrie | lets say a = 1, b = a, and then b = 2 |
| 06:01.07 | End | a = 1 |
| 06:01.13 | End | numbers are done by value |
| 06:01.25 | End | well |
| 06:01.27 | End | actually |
| 06:01.30 | End | that's not quite correct |
| 06:01.38 | ckknight | everything is treated like it's a reference. |
| 06:01.59 | End | a plain assignment always just sets that particular variable |
| 06:02.27 | Tierrie | righto, so what is the syntax so that I may do a = 1, b = &a, *b = 2 |
| 06:02.52 | Tierrie | and therefore set a = 2 |
| 06:03.08 | Tierrie | couldn't find it in the manual |
| 06:04.01 | MentalPower|PC | actually numbers and booleans are by value, everyhting else is by reference |
| 06:04.20 | ckknight | MentalPower: they're still kinda treated as if it's by reference anyway |
| 06:04.25 | ckknight | even if it's actually by value |
| 06:04.38 | Tierrie | so what you're saying is if a = { x = 2 }, b = a; b.x = 4, then a.x = 4? |
| 06:04.43 | ckknight | lua is pretty standardized that way |
| 06:04.48 | ckknight | yes, Tierrie |
| 06:04.51 | Tierrie | thanks mate! |
| 06:05.00 | MentalPower|PC | ckknight: err... huh? |
| 06:06.18 | End | blah |
| 06:06.33 | End | hooksecurefunc and setfenv don't have their own pages |
| 06:06.40 | End | well, hooksecurefunc does now :) |
| 06:06.43 | End | (on wowwiki) |
| 06:08.10 | Mike-N-Go | Guillotine, take a look at what I did with AskPrice http://pastey.net/3311-2whk:3310-2ab5. |
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| 06:09.59 | Mike-N-Go | I checked if the player is in the table, if it is, then stop, if it is not, then add the player name to the table and do [...], you could trigger it to run when you target a player. |
| 06:10.00 | MentalPower|PC | Mike-N-Go: the problem with your implementation is that if the person is not sent an ad message the first time, s/he will never recieve one |
| 06:10.11 | Guillotine | I don't see what you're showing me :) |
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| 06:10.35 | Mike-N-Go | What would you have done diffrently, MP? |
| 06:10.48 | MentalPower|PC | Guillotine: look for the gren/red boxes |
| 06:10.52 | Guillotine | oh, I see |
| 06:10.55 | MentalPower|PC | Mike-N-Go: http://auctioneeraddon.com/scm/changeset/1243 |
| 06:11.33 | Guillotine | ya, apparently my Automootic addon was working, just not for me since my WoW was so messed up |
| 06:11.56 | MentalPower|PC | placed the "send this user an ad" check inside of the "did this person use the feature" |
| 06:12.04 | Mike-N-Go | It was a start of how not to spam, I did not spend to much time on it, thanks for making it work correctly, MP. |
| 06:12.29 | Mike-N-Go | I saw that, I thought about changing the check order. |
| 06:13.14 | Mike-N-Go | I sold a plane letter for 3G :) |
| 06:13.41 | Guillotine | haha. ya, if you just put them up for alot, it throws off Auctioneer's price |
| 06:13.48 | Guillotine | and then people think its something thats worth something |
| 06:13.53 | Guillotine | and buy it intdending to resell it |
| 06:14.22 | Mike-N-Go | Yup, I bought a faded photograph for 10G once 9.9 |
| 06:16.02 | Mike-N-Go | Come on MP, about all you did to fix what I submitted was move the lines around and change the name :P |
| 06:17.01 | MentalPower|PC | hence the crediting on the commit log :) |
| 06:17.05 | Guillotine | goddammit. 1.X-1.12 was up to 99% and it borked :/ |
| 06:17.48 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks for putting my name somewhere d:) |
| 06:18.06 | MentalPower|PC | anywho, gnight |
| 06:18.12 | Mike-N-Go | Cya MP |
| 06:22.37 | Guillotine | so now I'm downloading the whole 3.5gig WoW client >< |
| 06:22.47 | End | sounds painful |
| 06:24.00 | Guillotine | it is |
| 06:24.05 | Guillotine | estimated 40 hour download |
| 06:24.11 | Guillotine | followed by another 2g for patch 2.0 |
| 06:24.29 | Guillotine | oh well, gives me time to go Pro with Blender3d :D |
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| 06:26.00 | Guillotine | wish there was some way to convert another type of 3d model to .m2 |
| 06:26.14 | Guillotine | then you could at least use the inspect frame to put 3d models in your interface |
| 06:26.51 | End | I'm sure it's possible, but the thing such a tool probably doesn't exist yet ;p |
| 06:27.09 | Guillotine | I know. I meant I wish it existed :) |
| 06:27.16 | Guillotine | and I'm not good enough at 3d modeling to write that tool. yet |
| 06:28.23 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone been to CoT? |
| 06:28.31 | Mike-N-Go | Caverns of Time? |
| 06:31.47 | Mike-N-Go | I went there yesterday in my hunter |
| 06:31.50 | Mike-N-Go | with* |
| 06:32.04 | Mike-N-Go | And I used Hawk Eye on the celling :) |
| 06:32.18 | Mike-N-Go | I saw the desert of Tarnais :P |
| 06:40.21 | Imrcly | awsoe |
| 06:40.31 | Imrcly | i want an m key back |
| 06:40.47 | Imrcly | all i have is a rubber nub |
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| 06:55.06 | Seracht | Hey, do yo uguys know the rate of exp --> gold conversion? |
| 06:56.35 | bleetah | dunno, but somehow I get the feeling this is about the quest displaying the wrong gold amount @ lvl 60..? |
| 06:57.11 | bleetah | (ie, it doesn't add in the xp->gold conversion to the quest 'reward' displayed, but you do actually receive that amount.. known and admitted cosmetic bug) |
| 06:58.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i forgot one minor change that 2.0.3 added |
| 06:58.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i highlight my Tranquility tooltip |
| 06:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and my mouth is stuck hanging open |
| 06:59.36 | bleetah | Mr_Rabies2: ? |
| 07:00.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | it ticks for 1097 every 2 sec now, untalented |
| 07:00.07 | Seracht | bleetah ya I know |
| 07:01.06 | bleetah | Mr_Rabies2: that seems.. ... ... ! |
| 07:01.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | they moved the cooldown back to 10 mins though, sadly |
| 07:01.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | at least it'll get some use now |
| 07:03.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1149 a tick now |
| 07:04.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | and regrowth is cheaper than healing touch now finally |
| 07:04.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | from 880 mana to 720 |
| 07:09.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | so there's 30 people on the whole ptr right now |
| 07:10.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i guess it IS christmas but still |
| 07:10.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | on alliance side, 35 people online now |
| 07:16.16 | Barbanus | I believe the +spell dmg bonus for Tranq got buffed ... not sure tho |
| 07:23.31 | subbawt | can you no longer reply to people in macros? |
| 07:24.09 | subbawt | or do i suck at macros o_O |
| 07:24.59 | Iriel | subbawt: it's broken right now - fixed next patch |
| 07:25.37 | Mike-N-Go | '/w name hi' |
| 07:25.42 | Mike-N-Go | Worked for me in a macro. |
| 07:26.03 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go: think he's talking about /r text |
| 07:26.20 | Mike-N-Go | What is /r short for? |
| 07:26.29 | Mike-N-Go | --/reply; ? |
| 07:26.55 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies2: Login server for PTR is down now for me. thats probably why theres so few people |
| 07:27.05 | Guillotine | anyway, I'm off to bed. gn all! |
| 07:27.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh okay |
| 07:27.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | see ya guillo |
| 07:27.22 | subbawt | is there a workaround for it, iriel? |
| 07:27.25 | Guillotine | you're one of the lucky few to still be in ;) |
| 07:27.33 | ckknight | yes, Mike-N-Go |
| 07:27.50 | Iriel | You could probably code your own without the bug (it's a for loop issue) -- It's not a protected script command. |
| 07:28.16 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know of a working version of Loot Link, the one I have won't allow me to search the DB... |
| 07:30.10 | subbawt | why would you need a for loop to reply to someone o_O |
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| 08:24.53 | [Cu]Werik | Morning |
| 08:27.28 | Tierrie_ | hola loopy |
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| 08:36.32 | subbawt | where can i find a list of secure functions |
| 08:37.47 | cladhaire | i dont know that there is a comprehensive one. |
| 08:37.59 | cladhaire | targeting, casting spells, etc. |
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| 09:23.04 | Mike-N-Go | Humm |
| 09:24.10 | Mike-N-Go | My addon, has a bug caused by [Tome of Conjure Food VII], what happens is it says that it is soulbound, were it is not, humm... |
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| 09:56.26 | xgravix | anyone know how these vendor recipies that share a slot work? do i have to keep buying the ones i dont want until the one i want shows up? |
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| 10:16.34 | Wobin | They share slots? |
| 10:19.28 | Mike-N-Go | What do you think of the name 'Prescription' for a name on an RP server? |
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| 10:24.12 | Mike-N-Go | A GM does not like it after I reported someone for name of 'Banknauctions' or something |
| 10:26.14 | Wobin | Mike-N-Go: Are you a Tauren? =P |
| 10:27.11 | Mike-N-Go | My main :P |
| 10:27.21 | Mike-N-Go | A hunter |
| 10:27.44 | [Cu]Werik | I haev infinite mana bug on tbc server;P |
| 10:37.25 | Wobin | hehe, how'd you figure that, Werik? |
| 10:37.25 | [Cu]Werik | I was fightning with some 61 elite at the wrackeges in HP when I noticed that I have like 200 mana / sec regen rate |
| 10:37.25 | xgravix | [Cu]Werik, don't tell anyone how you did it =P |
| 10:37.25 | [Cu]Werik | It just happened, I'm the chosen one, thats all |
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| 10:39.50 | Mike-N-Go | My nameing scheme for my traders is based of of what they sell and there classes: |
| 10:39.50 | Mike-N-Go | Ketene (poison hunter), Provender (Aged dry mage that feeds cows), Prescription (Priest that sells 'recipes' and future alch/FA), Panoplie ("Full set of Armor"), |
| 10:39.58 | Mike-N-Go | Legerdemain ( 'Lock that tricks people, also sell trade goods), Detriment ("Damage" sells Weapons), Conviare (random name for the consumables seller) |
| 10:41.07 | Mike-N-Go | What do you think of those names :) |
| 10:43.01 | Mike-N-Go | Witch of those sounds least RPish? |
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| 10:56.44 | Kaelten-Laptop | hi guys |
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| 10:57.31 | bleetah | hmm, stupid damn irc client :/ |
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| 11:42.01 | amro | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51008474&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 11:42.02 | amro | owned |
| 11:44.17 | Neebler | homorush! I dominate them in my PVP bracket |
| 11:46.58 | amro | pfft bgs |
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| 13:19.43 | KaoS` | so wow ,is going to a none-weekly downtime game |
| 13:20.45 | zenzelezz | would be nice... then you'd know that if the servers were down, there was either a patch coming, or something very wrong |
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| 13:24.52 | KaoS` | http://gameshogun.ws/Games/2006/12/25/world_of_warcraft_weekly_maintenance_thi |
| 13:24.57 | KaoS` | well its true |
| 13:25.07 | KaoS` | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=59665994&sid=1 |
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| 13:25.38 | Bouvi | Morning |
| 13:26.23 | KaoS` | so according to that, their will no longer be weekly maintenance anymore.. |
| 13:26.44 | foxlit | They're jumping the gun a bit |
| 13:26.59 | foxlit | I believe the official announcement was that they'll be testing whether or not it works next tuesday on selected servers |
| 13:27.08 | foxlit | which is, er, today |
| 13:27.29 | KaoS` | yeah today |
| 13:27.50 | KaoS` | they have been testing it on the BETA |
| 13:27.50 | amro | they did testing on it a while back |
| 13:27.51 | KaoS` | for a while. |
| 13:27.56 | amro | when some realms were not taken offline |
| 13:28.07 | amro | now they're just trying it on all realms i think |
| 13:28.26 | KaoS` | yeah, all realms are up right now |
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| 13:36.19 | Qshadowp | lol right, thats it :P |
| 13:40.31 | KaoS` | lol |
| 13:41.42 | Bouvi | Can anyone help me? This code should work but I cannot figure out why it does not. http://www.bouvi.com/ui/hello_world.zip |
| 13:43.22 | Smeltn | I have a question |
| 13:43.35 | Smeltn | I know with bar mods the bars switch with stances..ie warrior |
| 13:43.45 | Smeltn | but can they switch with hunter from melee to ranged |
| 13:44.10 | Bouvi | From my understanding not anymore during combat. |
| 13:44.50 | Smeltn | thats horrible |
| 13:45.04 | Smeltn | thanks, Bouvi |
| 13:45.11 | Smeltn | btw love your ui's |
| 13:45.21 | Smeltn | especially since you got away from Discord :P |
| 13:45.40 | Bouvi | Thanks :) I am working on a regular screen generic one now |
| 13:45.50 | Smeltn | I use your mage one |
| 13:45.51 | Smeltn | modified |
| 13:45.57 | Qshadowp | nobody ever makes duel screen uis :( |
| 13:46.25 | Bouvi | I have a dual screen but I prefer to have other stuff on it. |
| 13:46.54 | Qshadowp | heh :P |
| 13:47.08 | Qshadowp | i have 1 pc with 2 screens and 1 laptop with a extra screen. |
| 13:47.51 | Qshadowp | so i have wow duel screen on the pc, and all the chat stuff on the laptop, and what ever else i might be doing random on the last screen (generally browseing) |
| 13:48.15 | Bouvi | lol |
| 13:49.49 | Smeltn | http://wreckoning.org/ftp/Smeltn/myui2.jpg |
| 13:50.02 | Smeltn | my ui as of about 2 weeks ago.. I changed it recently though |
| 13:50.28 | Smeltn | now I am playing my lvl 24 hunter though |
| 13:50.34 | Bouvi | Nicer |
| 13:50.37 | Smeltn | and I wish I could make it auto change my bar 1 |
| 13:50.45 | Smeltn | to melee when they get in range |
| 13:50.58 | Smeltn | I hate loosing my keybindings and such on my second bar |
| 13:51.05 | amro | smeltn: why? |
| 13:51.10 | amro | you dont have 20 melee abilities |
| 13:51.23 | Smeltn | right |
| 13:51.25 | KiphereCE | you have three. |
| 13:51.33 | Smeltn | I have the top bar full of normal ranged attacks |
| 13:51.45 | Smeltn | then the bottom bar I have of course the 3 melee attacks |
| 13:52.03 | amro | i had wingclip on 2, raptor on 1, deterrence/ca on alt-2-3 on my hunter |
| 13:52.06 | Smeltn | but I wish when they get in range it would swap so I could use the 1-= keys |
| 13:52.19 | amro | ranged attacks on 4-8 and special keybindings |
| 13:52.45 | KiphereCE | why not just use modifier macros and have 1 be a ranged attack and shift+1 be a melee attack? |
| 13:52.53 | KiphereCE | my hunter's set up is weird :P |
| 13:53.06 | Smeltn | oh snap |
| 13:53.10 | Smeltn | good point Kiphere |
| 13:53.12 | Smeltn | I am a moron |
| 13:53.15 | foxlit | Hm, someone should mod mobhealth to work with heals on friendly units |
| 13:53.22 | amro | i haven't played my hunter in months, but i had the easiest time setting up keybindings |
| 13:53.54 | KiphereCE | speaking of hunter, time to log mine in and see how much honor he got yesterday. |
| 13:55.00 | zenzelezz | so the transfer went through in the end? |
| 13:55.02 | Smeltn | I love how EVERYONE is going to the whole everything at teh bottom square minimap |
| 13:55.25 | KaoS` | so if you have the BETA, can you login to the PTR server, without having to download anything . |
| 13:55.28 | KaoS` | since it is patched to 2.03 anyway |
| 13:56.00 | Dezzimal | Smeltn: eh, I don't like that setup |
| 13:56.04 | foxlit | Hm, curse doesn't have a timezone selector? |
| 13:57.16 | Smeltn | Dezzimal, I have been using Charcoal since FOREVER |
| 13:57.28 | Smeltn | and everyone said they didnt like the setup |
| 13:57.33 | Smeltn | but now everyone is going ot that |
| 13:57.47 | [Cu]Werik | nope |
| 13:57.54 | Smeltn | btw.. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/calderross/Sens_UI2-1.jpg I didnt think that Arcanium or whatever that mage mod is worked anymore? |
| 14:00.45 | phreaky | Maybe Henge? |
| 14:00.56 | phreaky | "General Necrosis-like for all classes" |
| 14:01.50 | Smeltn | is it on wowi |
| 14:02.02 | phreaky | Dunno, it's on wowace.com/files though |
| 14:03.12 | Dezzimal | Smeltn: wow that font is actually impossible to read |
| 14:03.19 | Dezzimal | especially on a bright background like sand |
| 14:03.39 | phreaky | it is |
| 14:03.42 | Smeltn | in my ss? |
| 14:03.45 | Dezzimal | yes |
| 14:04.01 | Smeltn | wait in which ss? |
| 14:04.05 | Smeltn | the last one Sens_UI? |
| 14:04.06 | Dezzimal | the one you linked |
| 14:04.08 | Dezzimal | yes |
| 14:04.09 | Smeltn | that isnt mine |
| 14:04.22 | Smeltn | was just looking at the mage mode |
| 14:04.24 | Smeltn | mod |
| 14:04.37 | Dezzimal | is charcoal the name of a mod that puts everything at the bottom? |
| 14:04.49 | Smeltn | no |
| 14:04.50 | Smeltn | charcoal is a ui pack that does it |
| 14:04.52 | Smeltn | uses Discord |
| 14:05.01 | Dezzimal | oh...ew discord :/ |
| 14:05.32 | [Liquidor] | Is there an overall event for all chat channels? So I don't have to register a bunch to cover them all? |
| 14:06.11 | Smeltn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2730.jpg |
| 14:06.17 | Smeltn | thats what charcoal did |
| 14:06.23 | Smeltn | been doing it for a year or so |
| 14:06.35 | Garoun | as far as knew, charcoal is only the name of a texture |
| 14:07.56 | Garoun | ok, so looked it up, yeah it's the name of a UI comp, but it's typically known as a status bar texture |
| 14:08.44 | KiphereCE | anyone know why my combat log would be constantly disappearing? |
| 14:09.17 | Garoun | do you have the guild recruitment channel auto-join turned on, and is your combat log a seperate chat window? |
| 14:10.29 | KiphereCE | I have no idea about the first thing, and the second, its my 'combat window' thats normally tabbed, I pulled it out on its own |
| 14:10.36 | KiphereCE | O |
| 14:10.38 | KiphereCE | I'm in a guild |
| 14:10.45 | KiphereCE | so i don't htink it auto joins guildrecruitment |
| 14:11.45 | Smeltn | speaking of guilds |
| 14:11.55 | Smeltn | does anyone know if there is a classchannel mod currently working:? |
| 14:12.32 | Garoun | well check in your settings page in wow |
| 14:12.43 | Garoun | and see if the guild recruitment channel is checked off |
| 14:13.19 | Garoun | that is an old bug that still pops up from time to time, typical (but doesn't always work) fix is unchecking the join guild recruitment channel |
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| 14:13.35 | Garoun | and it also only tends to happen when the combat log is a seperate tab |
| 14:13.45 | Garoun | that isn't attached to the main chat window |
| 14:18.24 | foxlit | Hm, bah. |
| 14:18.39 | [Liquidor] | Folks I need to make a sub that splits a line like this "!() ()" into args. Any help? |
| 14:18.39 | foxlit | Suppose I wanted to send a message to the battleground raid leader |
| 14:19.33 | foxlit | Finding with UnitIsPartyLeader is possible, but getting the correct name :/ |
| 14:20.12 | foxlit | UnitName() apparently doesn't return a realm if the target is out of sight |
| 14:21.21 | foxlit | [Liquidor]: exactly how does your line look? |
| 14:21.42 | [Liquidor] | !command value |
| 14:21.58 | [Liquidor] | value is optional |
| 14:22.02 | [Liquidor] | in some cases |
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| 14:22.17 | axxo | !(\w+) (.*)? |
| 14:22.28 | foxlit | isn't perl |
| 14:22.36 | axxo | it should be |
| 14:22.45 | axxo | !(%w) (.*)? |
| 14:22.56 | foxlit | nope |
| 14:23.11 | axxo | bite me then :) |
| 14:23.14 | foxlit | But close, though :) |
| 14:23.17 | [Liquidor] | note that everything could be in both args, both letters, numbers and signs |
| 14:23.33 | [Liquidor] | well how should it look like then foxlit ? be kind :) |
| 14:23.38 | axxo | !([^ ]+) (.+)? |
| 14:24.31 | foxlit | cmd, par = string.match(msg, "!([^ ]+) ?([^ ]*)"); |
| 14:25.22 | axxo | ? there? |
| 14:25.30 | axxo | oh right |
| 14:25.32 | axxo | i'm stupid |
| 14:25.59 | foxlit | Nah, you probably didn't have to deal with that scenario before :) |
| 14:27.58 | phreaky | ~seen a-stray-cat |
| 14:28.08 | purl | a-stray-cat <n=a-stray-@68-190-210-245.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 15h 34s ago, saying: 'hm?'. |
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| 14:33.33 | Qshadowp | ~seen phreaky |
| 14:33.35 | purl | phreaky is currently on #wowi-lounge (3d 9h 30m 5s) #wowace (3d 9h 30m 5s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 5m 37s, last said: '~seen a-stray-cat'. |
| 14:33.38 | KiphereCE | oh well, my combat log is gone and it isn't coming back |
| 14:34.42 | amro | reset chat, or recreate it |
| 14:34.49 | amro | fast way is to set "Simple Chat" in interface options, then unset it |
| 14:35.16 | amro | or you could recreate it (right click general, new window, ...) |
| 14:35.41 | Saeris | Why not just "/script ChatFrame2:Show();"? |
| 14:44.50 | zenzelezz | funky... Khoo's Point from a scarab |
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| 14:47.13 | Qshadowp | ~ |
| 14:47.18 | Qshadowp | ~seen guilotine |
| 14:47.35 | purl | Qshadowp: i haven't seen 'guilotine' |
| 14:47.41 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 14:47.54 | foxlit | two Ls |
| 14:49.33 | [Liquidor] | foxlit: |
| 14:49.53 | [Liquidor] | How do I expand this one to a 3rd arg? local cmd, par = string.match(arg1, "!([^ ]+) ?([^ ]*)") |
| 14:50.22 | [Liquidor] | local cmd, par = string.match(arg1, "!([^ ]+) ?([^ ]+) ?([^ ]*)") or smth? |
| 14:50.35 | [Liquidor] | oh and ,par2 though |
| 14:51.06 | Saeris | You might want to change the second + to a - |
| 14:51.34 | foxlit | *, technically |
| 14:51.46 | Saeris | Yeah, that one. I always mix up - and * |
| 14:52.13 | foxlit | I (almost) have section 5.4.1 bookmarked :P |
| 14:52.20 | Saeris | haha |
| 14:52.22 | Wobin | Anyone know how to store in the clipboard, text? |
| 14:54.05 | Saeris | We don't have access to the clipboard from Lua. |
| 14:54.40 | Wobin | alas |
| 14:55.04 | Wobin | I guess the best I can do is drop the text into a window for the user to select and copy |
| 14:55.04 | foxlit | textbox, ctrl+a, ctrl+c |
| 14:55.32 | foxlit | Yep. |
| 14:55.58 | foxlit | Keep in mind that \n is not actually \r\n in lua, so you might want to replace that for multiline copy-pastes |
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| 14:59.21 | Qshadowp | Can someone make a addon to stop people pming me asking for water? |
| 14:59.30 | Wobin | Sure |
| 14:59.34 | Qshadowp | <3 |
| 14:59.41 | Wobin | It's called Reroll 'lock =) |
| 14:59.46 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 14:59.53 | Lamex | asking healthstones is fun? |
| 15:00.06 | Qshadowp | i get ~30 pms a day |
| 15:00.16 | Qshadowp | and now that blizzard nurfed reply macros |
| 15:00.22 | Qshadowp | its even more annoyin |
| 15:00.39 | [Liquidor] | foxlit: local cmd, v1, v2 = string.match(arg1, "!([^ ]+) ?([^ ]*) ?([^ ]*)") doesn't work |
| 15:00.47 | Wobin | /afk I don't want to make water, go 'way |
| 15:01.06 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 15:01.26 | Zicon | People actually ask for healthstones? Since when? I practically have to throw them at party members to put them to use. |
| 15:01.40 | Lamex | well I am shadow priest |
| 15:01.51 | Lamex | I got that question sometimes.. |
| 15:01.55 | Lamex | go figure.. |
| 15:04.14 | Wobin | I think the best trick is the mage in full Dreadmist casting portal and asking for help summoning =P |
| 15:04.30 | Lamex | hehe |
| 15:04.33 | Wobin | It's amazing how many people will fall for that =P |
| 15:04.56 | Qshadowp | lmao |
| 15:05.12 | Lamex | summon him from a cliff or far underwater |
| 15:05.43 | Wobin | "Water breathing? Oh I have that...You want it?" |
| 15:05.54 | Wobin | "Blub...blub" |
| 15:05.55 | Qshadowp | lol |
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| 15:06.43 | Lamex | as a shadow priest answering "sorry am not water specced" is not that weird |
| 15:07.02 | Lamex | you would be surprised howmany people got mad at that when they asked me for water (no idea why they did that in the first place) |
| 15:07.03 | Wobin | "Sorry, I never learnt Create Water" |
| 15:07.13 | Lamex | *conjure Water |
| 15:07.40 | Wobin | *cough* whatlamexsaid *cough* |
| 15:08.16 | Qshadowp | is there any way to make a click button to reply to pms now? |
| 15:08.30 | Wobin | wow |
| 15:08.34 | Wobin | That'd be kinda cool |
| 15:08.48 | Wobin | "Warning, Your girlfriend is having "THAT TIME OF MONTH"" |
| 15:09.21 | Lamex | make macro "/r sorry no water here" |
| 15:09.33 | Wobin | Actually Qshadowp, HeyFuSecretary automatically replies... |
| 15:09.43 | Wobin | I'm sure you could hack that and use it |
| 15:09.53 | Qshadowp | Lamex thats what i d id |
| 15:09.56 | Qshadowp | i get a error when i try to use it |
| 15:10.01 | Lamex | ok.. |
| 15:11.13 | Qshadowp | maybe its just a supermacro bug :P |
| 15:11.23 | Lamex | hehe |
| 15:17.29 | foxlit | [Liquidor]: what fails? |
| 15:17.50 | [Liquidor] | It makes a match anywhere in arg1 |
| 15:18.07 | [Liquidor] | Aaaaabbbb !cmd v1 v2 ccccddd is true |
| 15:18.19 | foxlit | Ah,easy |
| 15:18.25 | foxlit | string.match(arg1, "^!([^ ]+) ?([^ ]*) ?([^ ]*)") |
| 15:18.42 | [Liquidor] | oki thanks |
| 15:19.15 | foxlit | If you want to make sure you aren't being given more arguments as well, you could do |
| 15:19.15 | Saeris | The ^ anchors the match to the beginning of the string, if you were wondering. |
| 15:19.21 | foxlit | string.match(arg1, "^!([^ ]+) ?([^ ]*) ?([^ ]*)$") |
| 15:19.28 | foxlit | And, likewise, $ maches the end. |
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| 15:53.10 | Qshadowp | woot, i've broken my script memory usage record |
| 15:54.42 | Saeris | I don't think I've ever been above 40MB. |
| 15:55.17 | Qshadowp | yea, im one of those people that likes to have every addon there is though |
| 15:55.27 | Qshadowp | includeing guilotines "Boing!" Addon |
| 15:55.31 | Qshadowp | addon owns :P |
| 15:56.09 | xgravix | rofl |
| 15:56.15 | xgravix | i think that memory indicator lies |
| 15:56.27 | Qshadowp | its fubars :( |
| 15:56.37 | Corrodias | i think mine hover around 100mb, with 150 addons including lootlink, auctioneer, etc |
| 15:56.38 | xgravix | because sometimes my WOW system memory usage jumps 200mb but the ingame indicator says like 40mb used |
| 15:56.57 | haste | the in-game one is UI tho' |
| 15:56.59 | Qshadowp | bongos says exactly the same |
| 15:57.01 | Corrodias | the in-game meters indicate your UI memory usage, not the entire game's memory |
| 15:57.17 | xgravix | yeah but why would the game's memory jump when i am scanning the auction house |
| 15:57.55 | Corrodias | because it's pulling in data and putting it into memory, then not reusing variables because it's lazy and lets the garbage collector handle the leaks |
| 15:58.20 | Qshadowp | well the UI is currently useing 125.3 |
| 15:58.22 | Corrodias | nah, most of the objects are probably not of a reusable kind |
| 15:58.25 | xgravix | seem excessive to me |
| 15:58.54 | Qshadowp | 191 items in my addon folder :D |
| 15:58.54 | xgravix | i had to buy extra 1GB of memory for addons |
| 15:58.57 | Corrodias | i have nearly twenty times that amount of memory in my computer. i'm willing to spend a few megs on an item database :) |
| 15:59.16 | Qshadowp | same here |
| 15:59.18 | Qshadowp | i have 2gb :) |
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| 15:59.28 | Qshadowp | i have fizzwidget and i meant to get lootlink but im not sure if i did |
| 15:59.31 | xgravix | yeah i don't care either i'm just a dorky coder and like thing to be efficient |
| 15:59.38 | Antiarc | Getlink > Lootlink, IMO :) |
| 15:59.43 | Antiarc | access to links without the bloat. |
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| 16:00.52 | _Loki | Heh - I'm going out to buy anothre GB of memory today. |
| 16:00.53 | Corrodias | fizzwidget is a series of addons |
| 16:01.21 | Corrodias | sadly, i've found that when people recommend alternatives to lootlink, usually they're recommending something that doesn't have the same functionality at all. |
| 16:01.21 | Qshadowp | i have 2gb myself :P |
| 16:01.40 | Corrodias | often it's something that only gets items from the local cache |
| 16:01.45 | Qshadowp | oh btw i found the super simple addon that is just a decurse grid |
| 16:01.49 | _Loki | Gonna need 2 |
| 16:01.49 | Qshadowp | its called Smartdebuff :) |
| 16:02.13 | Qshadowp | Red = cursed, Blue = not cursed, opacity 50% = out of range |
| 16:02.18 | Qshadowp | simple :) |
| 16:03.40 | xgravix | i wish i had bought 2 1gb sticks |
| 16:03.52 | xgravix | i didn't know i had to run it at a slower speed if i get 4x512mb |
| 16:04.24 | Qshadowp | i have 2x1gb ddr2 :) |
| 16:04.25 | xgravix | beware of that =P |
| 16:04.37 | xgravix | lucky bastid |
| 16:05.13 | Corrodias | this is why i research, yes :( |
| 16:05.16 | xgravix | i got name brand ddr400 and still have to run it at ddr266 when i added the extra dimms |
| 16:05.28 | vith | anyone having trouble with the GMail addon? trying to open multiple selected mails and now it does 1 and then stalls |
| 16:05.33 | Antiarc | Corrodias: Yes, that's what Getlink does, but in my experience, 99% of LL's functionality is just retrieving specific items. If I'm looking for a list of items with certain properties, I go to Thott or Alla or something. |
| 16:06.06 | Antiarc | Or rather, 99% of LL's use cases. |
| 16:06.13 | Antiarc | It's early and I'm groggy ;) |
| 16:06.42 | Saeris | GetLink's search process is crazy inefficient. It doesn't even cache items; it goes through 25,000 iterations of GetItemInfo with up to 6 inner iterations for each of its command line options, on every search. It's a good concept, though, making use of GetItemInfo like that. |
| 16:07.21 | Corrodias | :o |
| 16:07.51 | Bouvi | LOL so much for dad saying "Come over for a couple mins and help me out" Been over there forever. |
| 16:07.52 | Saeris | The problem is that Blizzard can force your itemcache.wdb file to clear itself at any time. They usually do that on maintenance days for all non-quest/vendor items. |
| 16:07.52 | Antiarc | Well, I don't need it to be efficient, really. It just needs to not suck up my RAM. |
| 16:08.11 | Corrodias | i prefer processor efficiency over memory efficiency |
| 16:08.23 | Antiarc | Corrodias: I do too, for general applications |
| 16:08.34 | Corrodias | because i have plenty of memory for WoW but only one UI thread. |
| 16:08.44 | Antiarc | But I'd rather have the UI lock for a half second when I execute a specific command that I know will lock the UI, rather than waiting an extra 15 seconds per zone change. |
| 16:09.02 | Saeris | Efficiency isn't really the issue so much as consistency. You might be able to link something one day and then never see it again because Blizzard forced the cache to reset. |
| 16:09.43 | Qshadowp | anyone know a addon similar to supermacro that works? |
| 16:09.51 | Qshadowp | supermacro is rather buggy for me :( |
| 16:09.58 | Antiarc | For the most part, I've not experienced that as a significant issue. There's a day or two after a reset where it's a problem, but it ceases to be one in not too long at all. |
| 16:10.29 | Antiarc | I just know that when I dumped LL, my zone time and such dived, which made me happy. |
| 16:10.32 | Bouvi | Can anyone tell me why this will not work. The code has been checked. Wondering if it is my file handling: http://www.bouvi.com/ui/hello_world.zip |
| 16:10.41 | vith | ~seen grennon |
| 16:11.00 | purl | grennon <n=jeramy@user-0cdv8vd.cable.mindspring.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 66d 16h 8m 56s ago, saying: 'and i used it to do some of the work serious buff timers was doing with formatting'. |
| 16:11.00 | zenzelezz | I was somewhat annoyed when the game disconnected me when I tried to link one of the drops from Emeriss... after we killed him :-o |
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| 16:11.57 | vith | yeah, blizzard needs to get a clue about that problem |
| 16:13.26 | Saeris | Antiarc: LootLink shouldn't be affecting zone time. If it is, it's not an issue with the database being large, it's some other problem. There's nothing about zoning that would somehow cause the game to spend time re-evaluating LootLink's entire database; the table is simply kept in memory, as it is at any other time. |
| 16:13.53 | Antiarc | Well, zoning, world-enter, UI reload, etc. |
| 16:14.25 | Saeris | Loading, yeah, because then it has to initialize the table and whatnot. Admittedly, that takes a relatively long time. |
| 16:15.42 | Antiarc | *shrug* I guess for me, the consistency isn't as important as having my load time significantly impacted every time I load up the game. |
| 16:16.30 | Antiarc | It's a convenience, rather than a necessity. |
| 16:19.52 | Saeris | There is a way to maintain consistency without harming load time, and it's actually rather elegant. Each key in the database is an item's base ID, and each value is a number rather than a unique string. The first digit in the number represents the item's rarity, and the remaining digits represent its name, each letter escaped to a three-digit representation. |
| 16:23.20 | Saeris | That sort of table should use less than 20KB of memory at load. Once you search it by name, it bloats up a little bit, but no more than GetLink does by iterating through GetItemInfo 25,000 times. |
| 16:23.22 | Corrodias | Saeris has a lootlink successor addon out, which i intend to use when i start playing again |
| 16:23.35 | Corrodias | it looks "lickably" tasty |
| 16:25.03 | Corrodias | i have to go to a doctor now. [away] |
| 16:30.31 | Industrial | haste: ping |
| 16:30.39 | haste | Industrial: pong |
| 16:31.53 | JoshBorke | morning! |
| 16:32.41 | Qshadowp | are there any addons that control whispers in the same way mIRC Does? |
| 16:32.54 | Qshadowp | as in, small window. tabbed chats, flash the tab on unread message |
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| 16:35.46 | bnovc | Qshadowp: that's a good idea |
| 16:36.17 | Qshadowp | well, i been asking about it for a while now |
| 16:36.33 | Qshadowp | there seems to be stacks of addons that open 1 window for every message you get (yea, my entire UI could just be pretty little windows.) |
| 16:36.36 | bnovc | is that even possible though? |
| 16:36.39 | Qshadowp | but none with tabbed chats |
| 16:36.44 | Qshadowp | if its possible, feel free to steal my idea! |
| 16:37.46 | Saeris | It's possible, but pretty complex. |
| 16:38.16 | Saeris | At least I think so. Chat is not my forte. |
| 16:38.42 | Qshadowp | :P |
| 16:39.16 | Qshadowp | i mean it'd be pretty cool to just have your normal rescaleable chat window, with flashing tabs for new messages and a type box that never closed |
| 16:39.22 | Qshadowp | then you could just select tab, and type :D |
| 16:42.09 | zenzelezz | bit hard to move then |
| 16:42.41 | Qshadowp | well if it was rescaleable i'd assume it'd be moveable aswell |
| 16:42.57 | Qshadowp | i know its a challenge, but it'd be really cool if anyone did actually do it |
| 16:43.01 | zenzelezz | what I mean is if you can *always* type, then you'd have no keys free for movement |
| 16:43.13 | Qshadowp | zenzelezz the type box could be a edit box |
| 16:43.22 | Qshadowp | you just click in it to type, and click out again to not type |
| 16:43.31 | Qshadowp | or, you could maybe have a keybinding to open it |
| 16:43.33 | zenzelezz | but then you can't "always" type |
| 16:43.43 | Qshadowp | bleh. |
| 16:43.50 | Qshadowp | purl, smite zenzelezz |
| 16:43.51 | purl | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves zenzelezz from crown to sole. |
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| 16:45.54 | Dezzimal | generic windows Q - how do I make ctrl+alt+del pop the task manager on XP, instead of having the dialogue with shutdown, logoff, task manager, change password pop up? |
| 16:46.19 | Qshadowp | Dezzimal windows xp pro |
| 16:46.32 | Qshadowp | home = stupid dialogs, pro = nmo dialog |
| 16:46.33 | Qshadowp | i think |
| 16:46.42 | Dezzimal | you sure? :/ |
| 16:46.48 | Dezzimal | I have home on here for some reason |
| 16:46.51 | Qshadowp | ask the people in the windows channel, they'll know |
| 16:46.53 | Dezzimal | and I did a reinstall a few weeks ago |
| 16:47.01 | Qshadowp | ./server -m irc.dal.net -j #windows95 |
| 16:47.03 | Qshadowp | they are smart :P |
| 16:47.13 | Dezzimal | lol |
| 16:47.30 | Dezzimal | /server -m irc.efnet.net -j #bearcave |
| 16:47.37 | Dezzimal | my favorite |
| 16:47.43 | Qshadowp | O.o |
| 16:47.57 | Qshadowp | i wasn't spamming random channels though, i was directing you to a windows help channel :P |
| 16:51.48 | Dezzimal | yeah...I think I must have had pro on this machine before |
| 16:51.52 | Dezzimal | /boggle |
| 16:51.55 | Tem | CTRL+SHIFT+ESC will open the task manager regardless of your installation |
| 16:52.12 | Dezzimal | very nice, ty |
| 16:52.31 | Tem | also, I'm currently on pro and I don't get the task man on c-a-d |
| 16:53.04 | Industrial | I watch this every day. http://www.youtube.com/v/2tIi9jpOtHQ |
| 16:54.40 | Qshadowp | Industrial ... ouch |
| 16:54.53 | Dezzimal | wow I heard a pop |
| 16:55.24 | Bouvi | I seen alot of kicks like that in competition. Nothing like hearing a jaw pop in real life. |
| 16:55.31 | Industrial | well the match preceding this one the other guy (stefan leko) took this dutch guy (badr hari) out kinda in a nasty way |
| 16:55.43 | Industrial | he got him back GOOD |
| 16:55.45 | Industrial | hehe |
| 16:59.48 | Qshadowp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kldy2P42e5k |
| 16:59.52 | Qshadowp | all you really need :P |
| 17:02.16 | Industrial | meh cs |
| 17:02.25 | Bouvi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DITHhK08NiM *whistles innoncently* |
| 17:02.40 | Qshadowp | Industrial but we where making boxes launch us into the air |
| 17:02.40 | Qshadowp | \o/ |
| 17:03.27 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 17:03.48 | Qshadowp | reminds me of the time i went to some christmas show thing |
| 17:03.54 | Qshadowp | and there was a lady there teaching kickboxing |
| 17:04.00 | Bouvi | Never attack me if I have a cane lol |
| 17:04.16 | Qshadowp | she had one of those massive punch bags, and she asked some kid to come up and hold it |
| 17:04.31 | Qshadowp | so shes sitting there teaching everyone, and he says "Come on you can't kick very hard" |
| 17:04.35 | Qshadowp | "orly?" |
| 17:04.39 | Qshadowp | "yea" |
| 17:04.45 | Qshadowp | "you ready?" "yea" |
| 17:05.07 | Qshadowp | she kicked him back, he fell into a sofa, knocked the sofa right over, kept on flying backwards and landed against a massive speaker. which he also knocked over |
| 17:05.08 | Qshadowp | owned! |
| 17:05.13 | Bouvi | LOL |
| 17:07.58 | Bouvi | I love being off for X-Mas time. LOOOOONNNNGGGGG Weekend :) |
| 17:19.32 | Industrial | Qshadowp: psh |
| 17:19.39 | Industrial | Qshadowp: team fortress classic > that |
| 17:19.47 | Qshadowp | ? |
| 17:19.48 | Industrial | lemme go look for a vid :D |
| 17:21.08 | foxlit | wow 0,0 is bottomleft, right? |
| 17:21.45 | MentalPower|PC | depends, its not consistent |
| 17:21.56 | MentalPower|PC | textures have one, the screen has another |
| 17:22.03 | foxlit | screen. |
| 17:22.06 | Industrial | 0,0 is usually teh center :S |
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| 17:24.35 | Qshadowp | is there a default keybinding to open the battleground stats menu? |
| 17:24.48 | Qshadowp | aha, shift + space |
| 17:24.50 | Qshadowp | annoying. |
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| 17:34.48 | Industrial | Qshadowp: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1816511488004252121&q=team+fortress+classic |
| 17:39.59 | Qshadowp | people surfing? :D |
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| 17:40.03 | Qshadowp | you can do that on css too |
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| 17:40.15 | Industrial | surfing? no |
| 17:40.21 | Industrial | conc jumping |
| 17:40.27 | Qshadowp | conc jumping? :P |
| 17:40.30 | Qshadowp | i've never played this game :D |
| 17:40.32 | Industrial | a conc grenade makes you dizzy and blasts you away |
| 17:40.46 | Qshadowp | :O |
| 17:40.50 | Industrial | they made maps where you cant touch the floor and have to reach the other end |
| 17:41.11 | Industrial | takes exactly 4 secs for it to blow up after you press the button, you can keep it in your hand and let it go later |
| 17:41.35 | Industrial | so you juggle them while you are in the air flying around obstacles |
| 17:41.44 | Industrial | and what not |
| 17:41.45 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:41.46 | Qshadowp | :O |
| 17:42.14 | foxlit | Meh, wow should really get some proper anchors for Tooltip:SetOwner() |
| 17:42.42 | foxlit | I want a SetPoint("TOPLEFT", obj, "BOTTOMLEFT"), but nooo, it doesn't exist. :( |
| 17:48.10 | Qshadowp | lol those guys in the team fortress are good :P |
| 17:50.41 | Industrial | :) |
| 17:50.48 | foxlit | blp2png is weird. |
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| 17:51.16 | foxlit | Take a perfectly white anti-aliased circle in png, run it through blp2png to get a blp, run that blp through blp2png again, and you get a perfectly antialiased yellow circle |
| 17:51.57 | foxlit | Wonder if it's open source |
| 17:52.14 | Gnarfoz | tried wowImage for that? |
| 17:52.44 | foxlit | That crashes on run. |
| 17:52.50 | Gnarfoz | java installed? xD |
| 17:52.53 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 17:53.05 | foxlit | java makes a crashlog and exists without a word. |
| 17:56.26 | zenzelezz | I wish Java would exist without a word |
| 17:56.40 | zenzelezz | yet it like to make its presence felt by putting an icon in my system tray |
| 17:57.19 | Industrial | I wish it was like, good. |
| 17:57.32 | Industrial | its always slow, always |
| 17:57.52 | Industrial | browser applets are the worst |
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| 17:58.15 | foxlit | You can hide that, too? |
| 17:58.39 | zenzelezz | I haven't found a setting for it in the version I'm using |
| 18:12.29 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: 1 |
| 18:12.33 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 18:12.45 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: 1.5.0_08 has it directly in the menu when you click the tray icon |
| 18:13.05 | zenzelezz | not sure I have/had 1.5 when I last tried |
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| 19:10.04 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/4009 |
| 19:10.11 | Industrial | This doesnt work with self? (line 11) |
| 19:10.23 | Industrial | Print is unknown by a :P |
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| 19:11.36 | Industrial | sup ho :D |
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| 19:13.38 | Tierrie | hey I don't understand the alpha transparency stuff in textures, when I open a tga file it shows the black as transparent |
| 19:13.44 | Tierrie | but when i try to make my own it doesn't |
| 19:14.50 | Elkano | there are different TGA formats |
| 19:15.06 | Elkano | or at least some options |
| 19:18.13 | Tierrie | distressing :P |
| 19:19.31 | ckknight | Industrial: you can't change the metatable of frames, now, it fucks up the protected state badly. |
| 19:20.56 | ckknight | btw, Industrial, you'd've needed setmetatable(Frame, {__index=self}) |
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| 19:21.47 | Tierrie | whats the point of setting __index = self again? |
| 19:22.05 | Tierrie | isn't that like default behavior? |
| 19:22.06 | Industrial | er right |
| 19:22.10 | ckknight | Tierrie: it's a metatable trick, if the key doesn't exist on the table itself, it goes to the __index |
| 19:22.20 | Tierrie | right and it checks for self.var |
| 19:22.28 | Industrial | ckknight: oh that sucks :\ |
| 19:22.29 | ckknight | which can be a function, typically, but also a table |
| 19:22.30 | Tierrie | which doesn't exist |
| 19:22.46 | ckknight | therefore, you can kind of hack up an OO framework using the __index dealy |
| 19:22.58 | ckknight | cause you have inheritance |
| 19:23.06 | Tierrie | oh are you setting Frame's metatable as self's then? good deal |
| 19:23.08 | Tierrie | ok so with the tga |
| 19:23.12 | Tierrie | what with the tga mates |
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| 19:37.53 | Tierrie | ok so where can I find some resources on images? |
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| 19:46.04 | MentalPower|PC | Tierrie: what are you using to create the textures |
| 19:46.12 | Tierrie | photoshop 7 :( |
| 19:46.14 | MentalPower|PC | ~staple a-stray-cat |
| 19:46.18 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples a-stray-cat quite well, and hands a-stray-cat to mentalpower|pc |
| 19:46.25 | Qshadowp | can someone ban a-stray-cat till he\she sorts out the internet? lol |
| 19:46.32 | Qshadowp | join\quit spam getting annoying :P |
| 19:46.33 | Elkano | other way you could do it: grab a working texture and edit it to your own ;) |
| 19:46.46 | Tierrie | i am working on a texture |
| 19:46.53 | MentalPower|PC | Tierrie: and you want an alpha channel? |
| 19:46.54 | Tierrie | the texture's alpha channel shows up as black on XnView |
| 19:47.00 | Tierrie | but after I edit it it shows up as white |
| 19:47.13 | Tierrie | which is kinda funky because now its alpha channel is black and white |
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| 19:48.26 | MentalPower|PC | are you saving it as a 32-bit TGA? |
| 19:48.54 | Tierrie | Yes and thanks to google i found out that photoshop is a jackass http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-12072.html |
| 19:49.14 | Elkano | try gimp :) |
| 19:50.07 | MentalPower|PC | Tierrie: did you apply the fix? |
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| 19:50.34 | Tierrie | not yet |
| 19:50.36 | Tierrie | i am downloading it now |
| 19:50.49 | Tierrie | good god, if i didn't stumble on that forum i would have killed myself tonight |
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| 19:57.19 | Qshadowp | uhh i have a very simple macro |
| 19:57.27 | Qshadowp | its just /r some text here.. |
| 19:57.52 | Qshadowp | and every time i try to use it i get the error Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2616: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 19:57.53 | Qshadowp | :( |
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| 20:01.13 | Qshadowp | oh to hell with this, gonna make a G15 macro for it lol. |
| 20:02.18 | Industrial | whats /r |
| 20:02.25 | Qshadowp | reply. |
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| 20:06.47 | subbawt | /r is broken for macros |
| 20:06.55 | subbawt | it's supposed to be fixed in the next patch |
| 20:07.04 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 20:07.16 | subbawt | i wrote a fix for it for myself |
| 20:08.36 | Qshadowp | subbawt gieb? |
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| 20:08.58 | subbawt | i kind of threw it in some random mod i'm writing |
| 20:09.14 | Qshadowp | aww :p |
| 20:09.20 | Qshadowp | atm im just useing my G15 Keyboard to do it lol |
| 20:09.28 | Qshadowp | fed up with getting messages "make me water you vending machine" |
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| 20:10.13 | Qshadowp | what was the name of that keyboard that someone linked here the other day? |
| 20:10.21 | Qshadowp | it was a keyboard, and each key on the keyboard was a screen |
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| 20:11.29 | Gnarfoz | Qshadowp: Optimus :) |
| 20:11.35 | Gnarfoz | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ |
| 20:11.45 | Tierrie | goodbye pos ps, hello gimp |
| 20:11.52 | Gnarfoz | ps >>>> gimp |
| 20:11.57 | Qshadowp | yhanks :) |
| 20:12.32 | Tierrie | ps will not save the tga alpha transparency |
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| 20:12.52 | Gnarfoz | works fine for me. |
| 20:12.59 | Tierrie | what version do you have |
| 20:13.01 | Gnarfoz | ps cs2 |
| 20:13.05 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. ps9) |
| 20:13.16 | Tierrie | i am poor and only have 7 |
| 20:13.30 | Gnarfoz | I'm poor to and stole it. >_> |
| 20:13.48 | Gnarfoz | *too |
| 20:14.10 | Qshadowp | thanks* |
| 20:14.11 | Gnarfoz | it's on my list of things to buy when I have money to spare, though. |
| 20:14.53 | Gnarfoz | until the Gimp's usability reaches anywhere near that of ps, my concience will have to live with tat |
| 20:14.55 | Gnarfoz | *that |
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| 20:16.48 | Tierrie | want to convert 2 files for me? |
| 20:17.13 | Qshadowp | is there a release date on that optiumus thingy? |
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| 20:17.35 | zenzelezz | originally it was supposed to be out long ago |
| 20:17.38 | zenzelezz | but they had various problems |
| 20:17.45 | zenzelezz | don't know if there's a date yet |
| 20:17.53 | Qshadowp | aww :p |
| 20:17.53 | zenzelezz | and it's expensive as hell, if they do finish it :-p |
| 20:18.37 | Qshadowp | i still want it |
| 20:18.52 | zenzelezz | how much would you pay for it? |
| 20:18.59 | Qshadowp | i tell you what would be really cool, if you could make a kind of combination between the G15 and that keyboard |
| 20:19.16 | Qshadowp | i dunno i don't think i'd buy it purely because im a G15 Lcd\Macro addict |
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| 20:19.31 | Qshadowp | but if they could add a bunch of macro keys, i'd buy it |
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| 20:20.29 | Industrial | a-stray-cat: fix your connection! |
| 20:20.32 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:20.55 | Industrial | irc is not a light show :( |
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| 20:30.47 | Majoejj | I got a string with 11,11[1] in it, (1=any number) and I want to match those, in regex I'd usually do "%d+,%d+\[%d\]" but cant seem to make it work... |
| 20:31.24 | Majoejj | how do one escape character [ in "lua regex" ? |
| 20:31.33 | Majoejj | \[ doesnt seem to work |
| 20:31.36 | Teomyr | %[ i think |
| 20:31.37 | foxlit | % |
| 20:31.39 | Majoejj | ahh ok |
| 20:31.51 | foxlit | Section 5.4.1 of the LUA manual is great. |
| 20:31.59 | foxlit | (it's short, too!) |
| 20:32.35 | Teomyr | i still wonder why lua has its own regex dialect |
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| 20:32.56 | foxlit | Nah, I just find that consulting that is frequently the easiest option |
| 20:33.06 | foxlit | Because any decent implementation of regex is huge |
| 20:33.14 | foxlit | And LUA prizes itself on being rather small |
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| 20:33.46 | Teomyr | that's a point |
| 20:34.55 | subbawt | Qshadowp: i went ahead and put my reply fix into a standalone mod, you can get it at http://subbawt.katron.org/ReplyFix.zip |
| 20:35.12 | subbawt | then just do /rx or /replyx in the macro |
| 20:35.14 | subbawt | instead of /reply :P |
| 20:35.27 | Qshadowp | subbawt thanks <3 |
| 20:36.26 | Qshadowp | suprisingly, alliance PUG! all 5 bases |
| 20:36.29 | Qshadowp | dam we won O.o |
| 20:37.08 | subbawt | don't use it in place of /reply in normal use though |
| 20:37.24 | subbawt | it doesn't have the functionality of locking on to someone after you type in /reply |
| 20:37.48 | Qshadowp | ok |
| 20:38.00 | Qshadowp | tis good all i wanna do is just have a button i can click to say if you want water, pay me. |
| 20:38.00 | Qshadowp | xD |
| 20:38.08 | subbawt | just a quick little hack to make macros work :P |
| 20:39.05 | Qshadowp | sounds good to me :p |
| 20:39.16 | subbawt | i had to have it for my /reply I don't have divine spirit. Ask <priests who do named here>. macro |
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| 20:41.12 | Industrial | NSFW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1120999131609320237 |
| 20:41.17 | Industrial | <3 angry kid |
| 20:42.05 | Qshadowp | lmao |
| 20:43.12 | Qshadowp | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5865853588645880828&q=WoW |
| 20:43.14 | Qshadowp | that guy wins \o/ |
| 20:45.19 | Industrial | lol yea |
| 20:45.56 | Qshadowp | :D |
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| 21:10.51 | bleetah | hmmm, Blizz say the reason the Live 2.0.3 patch is being so crappy at download speed, is 'coz they're choking it their side. at least I have an answer now as to why PTR vs Live patches differ so greatly in their d/l speed |
| 21:13.00 | bleetah | even if it makes no sense to me |
| 21:13.48 | bleetah | (ie, in Azureus I'm seeing peers with wayyy more data than me - thus making me confused about the Blue's post claiming limited release of parts of the live patch) |
| 21:15.00 | nevcairiel | the background downloader is limited |
| 21:15.07 | nevcairiel | if you use a BT client, you can download full speed |
| 21:16.02 | nevcairiel | its still intersting tho, EU didnt get the 2.0.3 Live yet, did it? |
| 21:16.05 | bleetah | running under azureus now, not seeing much of a different |
| 21:16.07 | nevcairiel | in preload i mean |
| 21:16.14 | bleetah | *of a difference in speed |
| 21:16.46 | Teomyr | don't have the EU one either, not even preloaded |
| 21:16.47 | bleetah | dunno, not EU (although I guess you worked that out by now hehe) |
| 21:18.05 | bleetah | ah, could be because all the peers I'm connected to are blizz downloaders... sigh |
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| 21:41.05 | phreaky | nevcairiel: is it still s01 and s02 for button 1 and 2 in B3? |
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| 21:46.28 | Majoejj | my forloops seems to iterate my tables in a strange order, I dont really get what ipairs() and pairs() do.. |
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| 21:50.14 | Majoejj | pairs() iterates a table (sorted) by the first value? |
| 21:50.21 | Majoejj | not key oO |
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| 22:08.50 | Qshadowp | hmm, is there a mod about so when someone pms you with <Insert text here> it replys with <Insert text here> |
| 22:08.56 | Qshadowp | and <insert text here> is settable :P |
| 22:11.29 | amro | you could hack the autoinvite mod |
| 22:11.46 | amro | replace /invite with /r, and make the reply settable |
| 22:12.18 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 22:12.27 | Qshadowp | that sounds a bit complicated since im not a lua coder :p |
| 22:12.32 | amro | oh |
| 22:13.44 | Qshadowp | someone should make one if there isn't one :P |
| 22:13.49 | Kirkburn | Need info help: http://www.wowwiki.com/Talk:Instance_Grouping_Guide#Neutral_NPCs |
| 22:14.27 | Qshadowp | O.o |
| 22:14.31 | nevcairiel | they definately dont aggro |
| 22:14.46 | nevcairiel | well scholo anyway |
| 22:14.54 | nevcairiel | havent been to BRD for ages |
| 22:15.08 | Kirkburn | Hrm, perhaps |
| 22:15.15 | axxo | they don't aggro in scholo & brd |
| 22:15.19 | axxo | except the quest mob |
| 22:15.26 | axxo | in brd |
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| 22:16.36 | nevcairiel | that whole discussion page is weird tho |
| 22:16.58 | Kirkburn | Heh |
| 22:17.07 | Kirkburn | K, I've told him he can make the change |
| 22:17.20 | axxo | its just how you prefend noobs from wiping you |
| 22:17.25 | axxo | since you can attack em |
| 22:17.50 | axxo | melee and right clicking |
| 22:20.24 | nevcairiel | guess thats where the rumor came from |
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| 23:03.43 | Kirkburn | I played on a Wii today :D |
| 23:03.47 | Kirkburn | Twas awesome! |
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| 23:08.41 | Kirkburn | Lovely spam |
| 23:08.49 | Kirkburn | Can someone kick them please! |
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| 23:10.15 | Cide | SP|Sorren: ping |
| 23:10.59 | amro | im guessing he's not there, he's got a crappy connection and his client keeps reconnecting |
| 23:11.09 | amro | freenode needs to throttle |
| 23:11.43 | Cide | yep |
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| 23:14.08 | Bleetah | hmm, dunno if throttle is a good idea on dodgy connections. what if it's a chan op trying to get in? |
| 23:14.19 | Bleetah | (not that it is in this case, but as an example) |
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| 23:25.20 | clad|away | Kirkburn: whats up |
| 23:25.34 | Kirkburn | a-stray-cat / SP|Sorren is in a DC/RC loop |
| 23:25.56 | clad|away | k |
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| 23:26.32 | Kirkburn | Woot, wonder how long it lasts : |
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| 23:26.33 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 23:26.37 | clad|away | lol |
| 23:26.38 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 23:26.42 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: i told you :D |
| 23:26.44 | clad|away | i can kickban him temp |
| 23:26.44 | clad|away | but |
| 23:26.45 | clad|away | *shrug* |
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| 23:27.59 | Kirkburn | nvm, lets hope he returns someday |
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| 23:29.06 | foxlit | ~seen Guillotine |
| 23:29.33 | purl | guillotine <n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 16h 2m 8s ago, saying: 'you're one of the lucky few to still be in ;)'. |
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| 23:31.03 | Kirkburn | ~execute |
| 23:31.11 | purl | ACTION produces a guillotine. Who's first? |
| 23:31.13 | Kirkburn | foxlit, that any good? |
| 23:31.53 | foxlit | Unless it goes "moo" when you see a tauren, I won't be statisfied |
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| 23:33.56 | Bleetah | "Vista requires that any interface that provides high-quality output degrade the signal quality that passes through it. This is done through a "constrictor" that downgrades the signal to a much lower-quality one, then up-scales it again back to the original spec, but with a significant loss in quality." - http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt << wtf? |
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| 23:35.39 | Kirkburn | Bleetah, don't worry, it's a load of scaremongering |
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| 23:37.05 | Bleetah | yeah, i realise some of it's way ott, but some interesting bits and pieces in there. I haven't read much about how the new foo in Vista works (and to be honest, I'm hurridly testing out Debian and Fedora with WoW ;-) |
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| 23:37.22 | Kirkburn | Anyone that's used Vista knows it's fine and functions almost identically to XP |
| 23:37.41 | nevcairiel | It sucks performance |
| 23:37.42 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 23:37.45 | amro | which is a good reason to stay away from it |
| 23:37.59 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: ping! |
| 23:38.15 | nevcairiel | WoW is faster on my XP |
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| 23:38.52 | amro | all that eye candy can't be free |
| 23:39.05 | Kirkburn | It does not suck performance |
| 23:39.16 | amro | kirk, it eats more memory |
| 23:39.18 | Kirkburn | Vista, if anything, runs faster than XP |
| 23:39.28 | Shadowed | So you'd say it's worth upgrading now then, or better to wait? |
| 23:39.30 | Kirkburn | not that again ... |
| 23:39.35 | Kirkburn | What's the point of free memory? |
| 23:39.45 | Kirkburn | If you have 2 gig, *use* 2 gig |
| 23:39.46 | Shadowed | Same reason you get 2 TB of hard drive space |
| 23:39.55 | Shadowed | because you can say "I have 2 TB of hard drive space" |
| 23:39.57 | Kirkburn | No, memory is completely different to HD space |
| 23:40.18 | Kirkburn | I would say, if you have no pressing reason to upgrade, wait :) |
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| 23:40.31 | Shadowed | hmmm |
| 23:40.31 | Shadowed | i see |
| 23:40.48 | Kirkburn | I'm getting it cause I need reinstall Windows on my laptop, and have no copy of Windows to do it :P |
| 23:40.52 | amro | kirkburn, the more memory it eats, the more time is spent swapping |
| 23:40.55 | Shadowed | ahhh i see |
| 23:40.55 | amro | also, i only have 512mb |
| 23:41.01 | Kirkburn | amro, then it'll use less |
| 23:41.09 | Kirkburn | Vista can run of 512 |
| 23:41.11 | Kirkburn | *on |
| 23:41.13 | sylvanaar | Shadowed: pong |
| 23:41.15 | Shadowed | whats your laptop at? |
| 23:41.15 | amro | im not saying it cant run on it |
| 23:41.32 | sylvanaar | I sign-on and go afk immediately |
| 23:41.33 | Kirkburn | It'll free up space to run WoW, I assure you |
| 23:41.39 | amro | yeah.. |
| 23:41.43 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, Inspiron 9300 |
| 23:41.44 | amro | by swapping |
| 23:41.49 | amro | which means alt tabbing takes forever |
| 23:41.52 | amro | loading takes longer |
| 23:41.53 | Cide | swapping is not freeing up space |
| 23:41.53 | Shadowed | er sorry, memory |
| 23:41.53 | amro | as does exiting |
| 23:42.24 | amro | it swaps it to the HD and it'll have to swap it back, and both operations take time |
| 23:42.29 | Cide | swapping is using up more memory than you physically have available |
| 23:42.34 | Kirkburn | Yes, well it takes an age to alt tab on an XP machine :P |
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| 23:43.03 | Cide | if it disables features that use memory and therefore free up that memory (I'm not saying that it does; I haven't used vista yet), that's not swapping |
| 23:43.03 | Kirkburn | I'm just saying - don't believe the naysayers, Vista runs wonderfully, even the betas |
| 23:43.21 | Kirkburn | Cide, is just keeps less info in the memory |
| 23:43.35 | Kirkburn | Normally it keeps stuff like frequently used prog files in it, for example |
| 23:43.38 | Cide | ok, so it does swap |
| 23:43.48 | Kirkburn | It gets rid of them when space is needed |
| 23:44.16 | amro | right |
| 23:44.18 | Bleetah | oh, I'm sure it runs fine, and even better than XP in many circumstances (XP being the 'first' marriage of the old Win95/98/ME and NT streams). Just what this guy is going on about in the technical side of stuff, seems... weird |
| 23:44.18 | amro | but that takes time |
| 23:44.30 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: but my WoW was definetly slower, may be due to lack of drivers tho, but at this point not really good for me :) |
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| 23:45.01 | Cide | can someone tempban a-stray-cat? :/ |
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| 23:45.20 | foxlit | Can't you ignore it client-side? |
| 23:45.21 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, what did you use? RC2? |
| 23:45.27 | Shadowed | looks like all of the ops are away =( |
| 23:45.29 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: RTM |
| 23:45.34 | Cide | foxlit: nope, I tried |
| 23:45.41 | Cide | I don't want to shut off all joins/quits |
| 23:45.44 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, really? Hmm, could be drivers |
| 23:45.44 | Imrcly | ~staple a-stray-cat |
| 23:45.46 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples a-stray-cat quite well, and hands a-stray-cat to imrcly |
| 23:46.25 | amro | kirkburn: ill admit im not really objective when i talk about windows :) |
| 23:46.30 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, I think that a 5%-10% performance loss is what I've heard to be possible, but I've not experienced it myself |
| 23:46.39 | Kirkburn | amro, heh |
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| 23:46.59 | Kirkburn | And people think I'm a paid MS shill =) |
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| 23:47.19 | Shadowed | hardly |
| 23:47.28 | Shadowed | people just assume that anyone who supports MS is crazy |
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| 23:47.37 | amro | to be honest, windows sucking depends on what you use it for. many people have no problem with it |
| 23:47.40 | [Cu]Werik | Hello |
| 23:47.44 | amro | hi |
| 23:47.47 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Crazy_People |
| 23:47.54 | Kirkburn | Notive anything? :) |
| 23:47.59 | Kirkburn | *notice |
| 23:48.08 | Kirkburn | Hey [Cu]Werik |
| 23:48.09 | Shadowed | yeah Mikk should be listed more then once |
| 23:48.21 | Kirkburn | haha |
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| 23:49.41 | amro | the only thing that sucks about my linux system is that the ati drivers wont work for my card, so no 3d apps (unless you can bear 0.7fps) |
| 23:49.45 | Thrae | Ahh Anime -- where you'd be a fool to bet on the guy carrying the gun versus the guy carrying the katana! |
| 23:50.30 | Thrae | Guns don't kill people, ninjas do. |
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| 23:53.50 | Bleetah | I just think the idea of forking out say, $2000 for a new PC, get given a new Premium DVD movie, then trying to play it on any old monitor only to find your monitor isn't compatible with the new Premium content foo, is just rude |
| 23:53.58 | Bleetah | or silly |
| 23:54.01 | Bleetah | or.. something |
| 23:54.09 | Imrcly | i feel your pain |
| 23:54.25 | Bleetah | oh, brand new monitor.. i'll copy the text |
| 23:54.27 | Bleetah | ""I've just had my first experience with HD content being blocked. I purchased an HP Media Center PC with a built-in HD DVD player, together with a 24" 'high definition' 1920 x 1200 HP flat panel display (HP LP2465). They even included an HD movie, 'The Bourne Supremacy'. Sure enough, the movie won't play because while the video card supports HDCP content protection, the monitor doesn't. (It plays if I connect an old 14" VGA CRT u |
| 23:55.06 | Bleetah | which is even sillier than what I said a few lines ago |
| 23:55.08 | amro | computers are not for watching movies :P |
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| 23:55.41 | amro | 1920 x 1200... id like that for programming, though im not a fan of widescreen |
| 23:56.00 | Bleetah | i can easily forsee a time where you'll need spdif/usb audio hardware before you can hear anything over 64kbps |
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| 23:59.38 | Antiarc | 1920x1200 is awesome. :D |
