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| 00:01.09 | sysrage | i got a macro that picks up 20 waters from my bag and opens a trade window. is it not possible to have it automatically put them into the trade window? |
| 00:01.48 | abug | kaso: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54916062&postId=566413668&sid=1#123 |
| 00:02.10 | Kaso | thanks. |
| 00:03.45 | abug | sysrage: supposedly you should be able to have an addon set up a trade |
| 00:03.52 | abug | but not accept it |
| 00:04.20 | abug | without a click I guess |
| 00:04.27 | abug | unless it's protected I dunno |
| 00:04.42 | sysrage | i don't need it to accept. just put it into the trade |
| 00:04.51 | sysrage | like cryolysis used to do |
| 00:04.59 | sysrage | only an addon though eh? can't do it in a macro? |
| 00:07.53 | abug | should be able to do it a macro too if there's enough room |
| 00:10.44 | abug | I guess it's ClickTradeButton(index) where index is the slot |
| 00:10.58 | abug | dunno if that's protected and whatnot though |
| 00:11.51 | abug | in a macro though it'd probably fire too early |
| 00:12.10 | abug | you'd have to like hit it twice |
| 00:15.25 | KiphereCE | I think dropping items in slots requires a hardware event. |
| 00:15.55 | abug | I'm not sure |
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| 00:16.14 | |stefan| | hey = ) |
| 00:16.30 | |stefan| | how do i get a function to execute on every event of a certain type ? |
| 00:16.51 | KiphereCE | bribe it with pie? |
| 00:16.56 | Neuro_Medivh | mmm, pie |
| 00:17.37 | |stefan| | heh |
| 00:17.48 | abug | of a certain type? |
| 00:20.09 | Neuro_Medivh | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/pastry/ |
| 00:21.06 | |stefan| | like CLOSE_WORLD_MAP |
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| 00:21.14 | |stefan| | then i want it to execute a function |
| 00:21.25 | Neuro_Medivh | secure hook the closing then |
| 00:21.38 | Neuro_Medivh | or register for the event |
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| 00:22.23 | abug | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_RegisterEvent |
| 00:22.46 | abug | or http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
| 00:23.09 | abug | good stuff |
| 00:23.20 | sylvanaar | Shadowed: ping |
| 00:26.36 | cladhaire | Okay, so I have a dilemma |
| 00:26.40 | abug | OH NOES |
| 00:26.45 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 00:26.48 | cladhaire | i wonder if i can work around it |
| 00:26.51 | cladhaire | *scurries* |
| 00:27.17 | SP|Sorren | is there a way to set a button's NormalTexture's coords? |
| 00:27.21 | cladhaire | so we have four click sets, Default, Harmful, Helpful and Out-of-Combat |
| 00:27.55 | cladhaire | Unfortunately without clever hackery, something I am lacking at the moment, a helpful/harmful click-set will always override the out-of-combat clicks. |
| 00:27.57 | cladhaire | solution? |
| 00:28.45 | abug | whine on the forums |
| 00:28.47 | Tuller | SetAttribute("unit", nil) |
| 00:29.26 | Tuller | that'll prevent the help/harm |
| 00:30.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Tuller, good timing - seen this? http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/12/14/addon-spotlight-bongos/ |
| 00:30.41 | cladhaire | Tuller: no it won't. |
| 00:30.45 | cladhaire | Tuller: Not in my case |
| 00:31.21 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh, wowinterface downloads don't like me :( |
| 00:31.42 | Tuller | Kirkburn|afk: now I have :) |
| 00:31.47 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 00:32.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Thought you might be interested :P |
| 00:35.25 | |stefan| | this is annoying. |
| 00:35.30 | |stefan| | i've disabled the chatbuttons. |
| 00:35.39 | |stefan| | but when i open the worldmap the shit resets |
| 00:35.49 | |stefan| | dunno what to do =) can't find an apropriate event |
| 00:40.12 | Garoun|Loupana | ~seen Saroz |
| 00:40.35 | purl | saroz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 4h 7m 50s, last said: 'ty'. |
| 00:46.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Hmm, I don't seem to be able to download anything from WoWI |
| 00:46.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Or, at least, I can't download vBagnon |
| 00:48.50 | KiphereCE | so, there I was. Waxing poetic on the topic of rye bread when suddenly she slapped me. |
| 00:49.00 | Tuller | looks like the download server is being iffy |
| 00:51.42 | Thardal | i wonder when curse gaming is finally going to fix their site so passwords get remembered for longer than a month |
| 00:51.53 | Thardal | that bug must've existed since WoW release |
| 00:52.03 | Thardal | and they faithfully ported it to the new site |
| 00:56.45 | Thardal | they also use the same hash everytime you request a password reset |
| 00:56.50 | Thardal | which isnt abusable at all |
| 00:59.27 | [Cu]Werik | Why would anyone abuse it? |
| 01:01.10 | KiphereCE | to get in your base and post as your dudez? |
| 01:01.53 | Thardal | denial of service by constantly resetting your password to something else |
| 01:02.20 | Thardal | the whole password remembering thing is pretty broken |
| 01:02.37 | Thardal | half the time it doesnt send you the right password, or forgets to send the email at all |
| 01:02.54 | Thardal | and anyway, it isnt really normal that a website drops your current password out of the blue |
| 01:03.08 | [Cu]Werik | Never happened to me |
| 01:03.31 | Thardal | it doesnt happen to everybody, but to enough people |
| 01:03.45 | [Cu]Werik | First time I hear about it |
| 01:03.55 | Thardal | no idea if its a sporadic bug or an exploit |
| 01:04.31 | Thardal | i think its account related because only one of my accounts has the issue |
| 01:04.45 | Thardal | i think i'll just stop bothering to use it and reupload all my addons under one that works |
| 01:07.21 | KiphereCE | No offense to any of the Curse folks but I stopped going there a long time ago. |
| 01:07.25 | Nom- | It's ... Friday |
| 01:07.29 | [Cu]Werik | I just can't understand this. V3 was available for testing since 4 months now. Noone cared about reporting any suggestions or issues. Now, suddenly, out of pitch black, everyone comes up with his long known issues, bugs and problems. |
| 01:07.30 | KiphereCE | the page loads, even on off days were horrid. |
| 01:07.43 | Nom- | zomg friday ftw |
| 01:08.30 | Thardal | people report plenty of issues even on the curse forums |
| 01:08.41 | [Cu]Werik | Yeah, right. |
| 01:08.43 | Thardal | they just get ignored until they get pushed off the page by even more bug reports |
| 01:08.54 | Thardal | which is also a way to deal with bugs i guess |
| 01:09.22 | [Cu]Werik | Sure, that is what we do. |
| 01:09.31 | KiphereCE | Thats a pretty positive attitude. |
| 01:10.58 | [Cu]Werik | You should work for us Thardal. You have an amazing overview of out work:) |
| 01:11.03 | [Cu]Werik | our* |
| 01:12.37 | Thardal | it really only needs anybody who bothers to research the issues as they show up |
| 01:13.07 | Thardal | if you go at it with an attitude of "oh it will maybe fix itself one day or someone else does something" |
| 01:13.21 | [Cu]Werik | And you really believe we work like this? |
| 01:14.02 | KiphereCE | You're getting pretty defensive in general. |
| 01:14.06 | [Cu]Werik | Did you bother to report this password issue at all? |
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| 01:14.58 | Thardal | i did like 10 months ago |
| 01:16.08 | End | hmm, my shaman lost his weapon |
| 01:16.25 | End | it's not in my inventory o_O |
| 01:16.32 | End | nor is it equipped |
| 01:16.39 | Thardal | in the bank? |
| 01:16.50 | End | doubtful |
| 01:16.53 | End | but I'll check |
| 01:18.27 | KiphereCE | thats not uncommon end. |
| 01:18.30 | KiphereCE | report it. |
| 01:18.45 | KiphereCE | whatever they did on tuesday caused a number of folks to lose shit. |
| 01:18.53 | KiphereCE | hope you didnt have an expensive enchant on it, cause you wont get that back |
| 01:19.12 | End | actually |
| 01:19.16 | End | it's a pretty shitty weapon |
| 01:19.24 | End | I don't really..."play" my shaman very well |
| 01:19.55 | End | hell, even my mage is far better geared and he hit 60 two days ago :P |
| 01:20.08 | End | (I mostly use my shaman to pick herbs) |
| 01:21.03 | Nom- | WTB BE Pally :~( |
| 01:21.11 | Nom- | Need to lern2boardnsword |
| 01:21.36 | KiphereCE | I'm killin myself waiting on BE tryin to figur eout if I"m going rogue or paladin. |
| 01:21.48 | KiphereCE | on one hand, I loved my first rogue, on the other hand bubble/hearth/roflz |
| 01:21.51 | Nom- | I'm rolling pally |
| 01:21.58 | KiphereCE | I'm leaning heavy on it. |
| 01:22.00 | Nom- | Going for dps pally |
| 01:22.05 | KiphereCE | this conversation is over. |
| 01:22.12 | Nom- | ret/holy build :) |
| 01:22.46 | KiphereCE | Paladins don't do 'dps' they spec for burst :p |
| 01:22.57 | KiphereCE | they dont have damage endurance. |
| 01:23.07 | Nom- | yeah |
| 01:23.11 | Nom- | hence the nickname mageadin |
| 01:23.16 | Nom- | 3 minute wonder :P |
| 01:23.19 | Thardal | also apparently curse likes to forget sending out confirmation emails on new accounts |
| 01:23.41 | Thardal | which of course leaves the account in limbo, unable to be ever used, and blocks the email address from being used again |
| 01:23.47 | Thardal | hallmark of quality coding right there |
| 01:24.04 | Thardal | at least i have my own domain with wildcard email addresses but not everybody does |
| 01:25.00 | KiphereCE | thardal, have you cehcked your spam filteR? |
| 01:25.03 | KiphereCE | JOKING |
| 01:27.19 | KiphereCE | anyway how is everyone. gonna stay up late and attack santa in Orgrimar? |
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| 01:27.55 | abug | selling snowballs two days before the holiday stuff appears to clueless people ftw |
| 01:27.57 | [Liquidor] | Lol I can see both flags in WSG :S What's that about? |
| 01:29.09 | sysrage | 2 days? |
| 01:29.15 | Thardal | after 5 min that happens to discourage turtling |
| 01:29.21 | sysrage | it's not starting tuesday? |
| 01:29.23 | End | oh crap, I should sell my snowballs soon |
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| 01:29.47 | End | I stockpiled a bunch and made a nice profit :P |
| 01:30.04 | End | only got like 3 stacks left |
| 01:30.12 | Nom- | I dunno |
| 01:30.17 | Nom- | I gonna nub up paladin so muc |
| 01:30.27 | Nom- | Coz my BE Pally will be my first one lol |
| 01:31.24 | Industrial | you know what would be sick |
| 01:31.33 | Industrial | World of Starcraft |
| 01:31.47 | Industrial | ZOMG I'd so play one of those zerg sand crawlers |
| 01:31.50 | Industrial | xD |
| 01:31.53 | cladhaire | I'm 54.. where can i grind in EPlaguelands? |
| 01:32.11 | abug | o.0 |
| 01:32.14 | [Cu]Werik | on the western part of it |
| 01:32.18 | Industrial | go to ungoro :P, thats what i did at 54 |
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| 01:32.21 | [Cu]Werik | hounds and bats |
| 01:32.22 | End | did you do the tirion fordring quests? good grind quests right there |
| 01:32.26 | Industrial | all quests in ungoro |
| 01:32.26 | Thunder_Child | Industrial stop, as it is there is stargate worlds and firefly as mmo's, i dont need any more |
| 01:32.30 | cladhaire | Industrial: Ungoro has been done for 4 levels. |
| 01:32.41 | cladhaire | End: No, where do they start? |
| 01:32.42 | Nom- | Silithius! |
| 01:32.45 | Nom- | Do them all... |
| 01:32.58 | End | up the river on the epl/wpl border |
| 01:33.04 | End | near the terrorweb tunnel |
| 01:33.07 | Nom- | I did like 54 - 58 in like BRD lol |
| 01:33.14 | cladhaire | well i have to grind it. |
| 01:33.24 | Industrial | im 56 warrior and i dont like to tank |
| 01:33.27 | Industrial | so i have to grind it too |
| 01:33.28 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:33.44 | End | if you are horde, the undead guy at the marris stead has a bunch of kill a bunch of mob quests too |
| 01:33.45 | Nom- | You don't like to tank? |
| 01:33.48 | Nom- | Wrong class then lol |
| 01:33.51 | Industrial | yes i know |
| 01:33.51 | cladhaire | End: I'm alliance on this char |
| 01:33.57 | Industrial | kinda fucked to notice at level 50 isnt it |
| 01:33.57 | Nom- | lern2board'n'sword :P |
| 01:34.02 | Industrial | no thanks |
| 01:34.06 | End | ah, well, then I don't think the undead guy would give you those quests :P |
| 01:34.06 | cladhaire | Nom-: Hrm.. can I do them at 55? |
| 01:34.12 | Nom- | cladhaire: I did |
| 01:34.18 | Nom- | cladhaire: On a mage... |
| 01:34.18 | cladhaire | where's the best place to start? |
| 01:34.23 | End | (I hear alliance have a pvp quest to kill him though) |
| 01:34.24 | Industrial | i havent even learnt defensive stance things from my trainer |
| 01:34.29 | cladhaire | i never did Sith on my other chars |
| 01:34.50 | Industrial | I need a level 60 but i so cba to level this guy |
| 01:34.51 | Nom- | cladhaire: Just head to town...there's a quest that sends you down south somewhere (to the pvp base) |
| 01:35.06 | End | on my recently leveled mage I did a bunch of sithilus quests at 55 and then again at 57ish |
| 01:35.10 | Nom- | There's a chain of quests starting from about level 52 |
| 01:35.10 | cladhaire | Nom-: Aye, but you can't solo that part... or you couldn't |
| 01:35.23 | End | they don't summon elites anymore |
| 01:35.26 | Nom- | Yeah...i soloed several non-elite sub-60 quests |
| 01:35.42 | [Cu]Werik | as a mage |
| 01:35.48 | Nom- | yep, as a mage |
| 01:35.55 | Nom- | frost mage at that point in time |
| 01:36.07 | [Cu]Werik | you have to be in full epic if you are melee |
| 01:36.19 | Nom- | hardly |
| 01:36.32 | Nom- | They're not elites |
| 01:36.34 | [Cu]Werik | or you will spend 10 minutes with killing 30 minutes with eating |
| 01:36.45 | Nom- | Most of the mobs are 55 non-elite |
| 01:36.52 | Nom- | It's only those flyers that are elite |
| 01:37.13 | Nom- | And you don't need to do them unless you start doing combat missions |
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| 01:43.05 | KiphereCE | gots a question. |
| 01:43.14 | KiphereCE | If I wanna make a custom art item, like say.. a dagger. |
| 01:43.20 | KiphereCE | and put it on my screen |
| 01:43.28 | KiphereCE | do I just load it as a texture for a frame? |
| 01:43.40 | KiphereCE | and can it be done in lua, sans xml |
| 01:43.42 | KiphereCE | cause I hate xml |
| 01:46.13 | Neuro_Medivh | when you say custom art item |
| 01:46.13 | Nom- | How can you hate XML? |
| 01:46.21 | Nom- | That's like hating kittens or puppies |
| 01:46.25 | Neuro_Medivh | you mean, your dagger graphic would replace the dagger on your character? |
| 01:47.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Nom, kittens and puppies are a great example |
| 01:47.16 | Neuro_Medivh | if they're small, they're cute and great |
| 01:47.29 | Neuro_Medivh | but after a while, they grow, and become a pain in the ass |
| 01:48.14 | Nom- | pffffffffft |
| 01:48.20 | Nom- | XML is godly |
| 01:48.25 | Nom- | As long as you know what you're doing |
| 01:49.06 | [Cu]Werik | puppies are evil |
| 01:49.51 | Nom- | You're evil |
| 01:50.10 | SP|Sorren | weee, its so nice when you write a bunch of new code and it just works ;o |
| 01:50.19 | SP|Sorren | i wish it were a regular occurance :( |
| 01:50.41 | Nom- | That happens for me all the time |
| 01:50.44 | Nom- | It's called TDD |
| 01:50.59 | SP|Sorren | TDD? |
| 01:51.06 | Nom- | Test Driven Development |
| 01:51.24 | Nom- | I write a whole heap of tests to test my module before I even write it |
| 01:51.43 | Nom- | Then you just write the code in the module to match the behaviour and voila |
| 01:51.53 | SP|Sorren | i wouldn't say that's the same thing :P |
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| 01:54.58 | SP|Sorren | what should i name my tracking info mod? ;o |
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| 01:57.34 | Kirkburn | Lol, awesome: http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/12/14/lesser-known-quests-tooga/ |
| 01:58.00 | Kirkburn | Even better, it involves Torta and Tooga. |
| 01:58.18 | Kirkburn | And oddly enough I just watched Pirates of the Carribean |
| 02:00.02 | seebs | SP, what kind of tracking info? |
| 02:00.19 | KiphereCE | sorry no one answered so I wandered off. |
| 02:00.19 | seebs | My advice would be to give it a name like "BoomerangHelper", so that only dedicated easter eggers will find it! |
| 02:00.36 | KiphereCE | xml makes me sad in the pants. |
| 02:00.48 | KiphereCE | if I can add a custom art item to my screen without using it I'd like to. |
| 02:00.49 | seebs | I am ambivalent about XML. |
| 02:00.58 | seebs | I don't know what you mean by "without using it". |
| 02:01.06 | seebs | Oh, you mean without using XML... I don't think you can. |
| 02:01.11 | KiphereCE | you can create frames and what not completely in lua |
| 02:01.18 | seebs | You pretty much need SOME stuff in XML to define your initial frame. |
| 02:01.19 | KiphereCE | can you not reference texture files? |
| 02:01.21 | nudave | kirk: I have some Tortuga Rum right here |
| 02:01.28 | nudave | I purchased from Grand Cayman :) |
| 02:01.36 | seebs | I think you can. You'd need to have an object that you'd created... But you might be able to make it work. |
| 02:01.41 | seebs | What do you dislike about XML? |
| 02:01.58 | KiphereCE | I'm ignorant of how it works and don't feel like learning it if it can be done with lua ;) |
| 02:02.07 | seebs | I ranted about it a while back as a half-standard; it's a standard on how to write data file formats, but it doesn't actually give you any basis for hoping that a particular format will not suck. |
| 02:02.08 | KiphereCE | I'm a code racist, if I don't understand it I hate it. |
| 02:02.20 | seebs | Just think of it as picky HTML, it's easy. |
| 02:02.35 | Neuro_Medivh | Kiphere, again, what are you actually trying to do? |
| 02:02.37 | seebs | <TAG [attribute="value" ...]>[contents]</TAG> |
| 02:02.45 | seebs | That's all you need to know. |
| 02:02.49 | KiphereCE | I wanna put a 'something' on the screen. |
| 02:02.51 | KiphereCE | lets say a dagger. |
| 02:02.58 | Neuro_Medivh | When you say dagger |
| 02:03.00 | KiphereCE | or a picture of a dagger to be precise |
| 02:03.03 | KiphereCE | just an image. |
| 02:03.18 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, so not like replacing the dagger in your character's hand |
| 02:03.21 | KiphereCE | if I can apply a texture to a frame in lua I'm sure I can do it. |
| 02:03.35 | Neuro_Medivh | you can, but there are limits |
| 02:03.47 | KiphereCE | its purely for looks. |
| 02:04.00 | Neuro_Medivh | I mean limits to the texture, it has to be certain dimensions |
| 02:04.24 | KiphereCE | yeah, thats not an issue, I can work within the whole function of 2 concept. |
| 02:04.43 | KiphereCE | example: I wanna make a pretty dagger with jewels on it in certain intervals in an art program. |
| 02:04.51 | KiphereCE | turn that into a tga file I can display in a fram on my screen |
| 02:05.11 | Neuro_Medivh | also, at some point you will need some kind of XML, if only as a starting point for OnLoad |
| 02:05.24 | KiphereCE | I don't have any xml for my hotbar mods |
| 02:05.44 | KiphereCE | why would i need it for anything else? you can't define onload in lua exclusively? |
| 02:06.00 | Neuro_Medivh | well, I don't know how... |
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| 02:06.29 | KiphereCE | well, I'm nto tryin to do anything complex with the graphic itself. |
| 02:06.44 | KiphereCE | I'm basically taking a website design I used once and making an ingame tool of it :P |
| 02:06.58 | KiphereCE | the graphic will have obvious points of interest, not interactive of course cause its just a graphic. |
| 02:07.12 | KiphereCE | then I'll put transparent buttons in the frame, over the points of interest on the graphic. |
| 02:07.39 | KiphereCE | so you click on the 'graphic' and it reacts like a button. Eventually I'll add animations to it, but right now I'm gonna keep it simple. |
| 02:07.56 | seebs | You CAN do everything in Lua, but in general it's inefficient to do so, IMHO. |
| 02:08.15 | KiphereCE | well, what sort of things is it more effecient to do with the xml? |
| 02:08.21 | Neuro_Medivh | seebs, how do you do OnLoad? |
| 02:08.32 | KiphereCE | I mean, if i was building a GUI for an addon I'd see the use in creating the frame structure in XMl |
| 02:08.50 | KiphereCE | but simple shit like just adding a non default texture to a frame, seems like creating an xml file just for that is excessive |
| 02:09.00 | seebs | Well, you have to have a tiny little cargo-cult XML thing to have <Frame><Scripts><OnLoad>MyAddon:OnLoad()</OnLoad>... |
| 02:09.09 | Neuro_Medivh | that's what I mean |
| 02:09.30 | seebs | But you don't really need to do any significant layout in XML if you don't want to; it's just that using dynamic frames for a static frame probably imposes extra load. |
| 02:09.50 | KiphereCE | you're sayin you have to do teh onload in xml? |
| 02:10.06 | Neuro_Medivh | or you'd have to manually initialize the addon |
| 02:10.16 | KiphereCE | guess I'm confused. |
| 02:10.23 | KiphereCE | how is my addon loading then without an xml file? :P |
| 02:10.38 | Neuro_Medivh | what does it do? |
| 02:11.04 | KiphereCE | its 120 individual hotkeys that have slash commands for scale, hide/show, and move/lock. |
| 02:11.09 | KiphereCE | no xml :p |
| 02:11.17 | Neuro_Medivh | that's cause they're all reactive |
| 02:11.40 | Neuro_Medivh | or they are hooking into existing XML |
| 02:11.41 | abug | you can specify lua files in teh toc |
| 02:11.52 | KiphereCE | yeah, which is what I did. |
| 02:12.12 | abug | can even make full frames without xml |
| 02:12.14 | KiphereCE | I'm not seeing why you 'have' to have xml, I'm pretty sure I read that you don't need XML at all for a lot of things. |
| 02:12.41 | KiphereCE | I mean, I'm sure it references parts of the default things like actionbuttontemplate, etc. |
| 02:12.47 | Neuro_Medivh | abug, I know, but how do you actually RUN anything at startup? |
| 02:12.52 | KiphereCE | but I don't need to do my own xml just to make my thing work. |
| 02:13.15 | abug | use CreateFrame() to make a new frame in your first lua file |
| 02:13.38 | abug | then use frame:SetScript() to set up your handlers |
| 02:13.40 | Neuro_Medivh | And where do you put that function? |
| 02:13.52 | abug | anywhere |
| 02:14.04 | abug | preferably at the beginning |
| 02:14.06 | KiphereCE | you can tell frames to register events |
| 02:14.10 | Neuro_Medivh | ok, and how do you RUN that function that calls CreateFrame? |
| 02:14.27 | abug | you don't, it gets run when the lua script is loaded |
| 02:14.55 | abug | a crazy concept I know |
| 02:15.35 | Garoun|Loupana | what did you think of Lost Room Neuro? |
| 02:15.49 | Neuro_Medivh | was good, but the ending was bleh... but I knew it would be |
| 02:16.04 | Garoun|Loupana | I actually liked it |
| 02:16.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Sci Fi has a habit of doing stuff like that, hoping to make a series out of it |
| 02:16.26 | Garoun|Loupana | a lot of people don't like the "so what happened? no one knows" part |
| 02:16.27 | KiphereCE | O create an event frame, and register variables_loaded and player_login, then tell it to run my buildbar script on the player_login event. |
| 02:16.35 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, that I didn't mind |
| 02:16.52 | Neuro_Medivh | it's that near the end they kind of broke down the continuity and such |
| 02:17.08 | abug | yeah I make a little crappy off-screen frame for events and onupdates too |
| 02:17.24 | Garoun|Loupana | I think that was a "oh shit budget out" moment :P |
| 02:17.32 | Garoun|Loupana | wher ethey had to tie everything up way too fast |
| 02:17.36 | Neuro_Medivh | nah, I know what it was |
| 02:17.43 | Neuro_Medivh | they wanted to leave it open ended |
| 02:17.49 | Neuro_Medivh | for the series or sequel |
| 02:17.51 | KiphereCE | when i get into a more complicated mod I'll start using XML. |
| 02:17.55 | Neuro_Medivh | I liked the concept though |
| 02:18.08 | Neuro_Medivh | but that whole "room next door, 6 objects" thing was just weird |
| 02:18.09 | Garoun|Loupana | true, but actually if you think about the clues it fit... |
| 02:18.55 | Garoun|Loupana | the guy in the run down building said the key just showed up one day so it's possible it'd happen again |
| 02:19.07 | Neuro_Medivh | but everything else made sense... in fact, before he threw the pen in the room and closed the door, I suspected the pen would survive and move |
| 02:19.13 | KiphereCE | does Widger go by any other names in here? :p |
| 02:19.19 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, they explained that |
| 02:19.26 | Neuro_Medivh | the occupant dropped it |
| 02:19.35 | Neuro_Medivh | and divested himself of the items |
| 02:19.42 | Neuro_Medivh | along the way, cause they made his head hurt |
| 02:19.58 | Garoun|Loupana | oh, I missed that part |
| 02:20.04 | Neuro_Medivh | they never said that |
| 02:20.10 | seebs | So, our cat likes to play with hair ties. We just moved a microwave that was sitting on the floor, and found about twenty of them that he'd stashed. |
| 02:20.15 | Neuro_Medivh | they just said how he can't stand being near them |
| 02:20.20 | Neuro_Medivh | so I infered the rest |
| 02:20.39 | Neuro_Medivh | he left the motel room, and got rid of any objects he still had |
| 02:20.54 | Neuro_Medivh | which is why the shoes, comb, etc were all gone |
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| 02:21.08 | Darklin | Tuller: You about? |
| 02:21.15 | Tuller | Darklin: yes |
| 02:21.31 | Darklin | Tuller: Cool. Got a bug for you. Found the issue already but I figured you might want to fix it. =) |
| 02:21.54 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm looking forward to the new series, dresden and curious about flash gordon :P |
| 02:22.01 | Tuller | Darklin: what is it? |
| 02:22.06 | Darklin | Bongos_ActionBar\actionBar\state.lua:line=52 |
| 02:22.18 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm a big fan of BSG, so hopefully they'll keep doing decent shows |
| 02:22.37 | Darklin | you have toProwl = AddPair(toCat, (7000 + j), (3000 +j)) |
| 02:22.39 | Tuller | I fixed that :) |
| 02:22.44 | Darklin | kk cool. |
| 02:22.50 | Darklin | Didn't know if you caught it. |
| 02:22.58 | Darklin | Since it's a druid specific thing. =0 |
| 02:23.01 | Darklin | =) |
| 02:23.20 | Garoun|Loupana | I lost interest in BSG, but I really enjoy Eureka and Dr Who even though we're a year behind |
| 02:24.52 | Darklin | That's all I had really. =) Was in AV after just updating and I'm like, "Why is this not going back to my pre-prowl state." |
| 02:24.54 | Darklin | Heh |
| 02:25.14 | Darklin | Nice optimization btw. I like the way you went with it. |
| 02:25.18 | Garoun|Loupana | have no desire to watch Enterprise... and painkiller jane is probably gonna be one of 'those' :P |
| 02:25.23 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 02:25.28 | Neuro_Medivh | YOU may be a year behind |
| 02:25.36 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm already watching Torchwood |
| 02:25.45 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm actually not... but I don't say that |
| 02:25.51 | Garoun|Loupana | ;) |
| 02:25.51 | Thunder_Child | i tried torchwood, but i couldnt get into it |
| 02:25.53 | Neuro_Medivh | and the second half of SGA |
| 02:26.03 | Garoun|Loupana | I like torchwood |
| 02:26.03 | Neuro_Medivh | Yeah, it's not nearly as good as Dr Who |
| 02:26.15 | Thunder_Child | but i do follow SGA |
| 02:26.29 | Thunder_Child | and SG1 till it dies |
| 02:26.42 | Garoun|Loupana | SG1 dies this year :/ |
| 02:26.43 | Neuro_Medivh | Thunder_Child, Canadian TV is playing SGA new episodes already |
| 02:26.47 | Garoun|Loupana | it will be a sad day |
| 02:26.57 | Garoun|Loupana | SGA isn't out yet if you mean Atlantis |
| 02:27.01 | Thunder_Child | i know Neuro_Medivh, thats where i pick it up from |
| 02:27.06 | Neuro_Medivh | Garoun, yes it is |
| 02:27.13 | Neuro_Medivh | Sci Fi delayed playing them |
| 02:27.16 | Neuro_Medivh | but Canada didn't |
| 02:27.19 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh |
| 02:27.26 | Garoun|Loupana | scifi being scifi again |
| 02:27.29 | Neuro_Medivh | yep |
| 02:27.29 | Thunder_Child | that does put a slight crink into SGW but i assume they will work around it |
| 02:27.32 | Neuro_Medivh | they're waiting till APRIL |
| 02:27.54 | Garoun|Loupana | They are going to milk those new shows for teh new year |
| 02:28.03 | Neuro_Medivh | yep |
| 02:28.23 | Neuro_Medivh | I still dig BSG though |
| 02:28.34 | Thunder_Child | BSG? |
| 02:28.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Exodus was by far one of the best episodes of any show |
| 02:28.42 | Neuro_Medivh | Battlestar Galactica |
| 02:28.50 | Thunder_Child | bah, i did not like that one at all |
| 02:29.02 | Neuro_Medivh | oh man, that show is SO good |
| 02:29.17 | Thunder_Child | to dark, and they need to learn how to hold a camera straight |
| 02:29.23 | Garoun|Loupana | my g/f just said... "last weeks episode was pure crap" :P |
| 02:29.34 | Neuro_Medivh | she's right about that |
| 02:29.45 | Neuro_Medivh | but ask her how the rescue episode was |
| 02:29.45 | Thunder_Child | and when i say dark i mean the style, not the ambient light |
| 02:30.34 | Garoun|Loupana | her response.... |
| 02:30.39 | Garoun|Loupana | she pointed at her wallpaper |
| 02:30.42 | Garoun|Loupana | :P |
| 02:31.09 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, ok |
| 02:31.18 | Garoun|Loupana | it's the picture of the general looking up right as the ship is about to stop |
| 02:31.43 | Neuro_Medivh | Ahh, yes |
| 02:32.06 | Neuro_Medivh | where the Galactica jumps straight into Atmo? |
| 02:32.22 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah |
| 02:32.23 | Neuro_Medivh | and drops like a rock |
| 02:32.28 | Neuro_Medivh | that scene is just amazing |
| 02:33.21 | Neuro_Medivh | BSG is definately hit or miss though, like most shows |
| 02:33.34 | Neuro_Medivh | the one I've just about given up on is Lost |
| 02:34.25 | Garoun|Loupana | you mean the... OMG I STEPPED ON A BLADE OF GRASS... what have I done to the cosmic balence! |
| 02:34.34 | Garoun|Loupana | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.01 | Garoun|Loupana | the show were everything down to sneezing has some sort of bearing on the story hehe |
| 02:35.30 | Neuro_Medivh | it's just like X-files, nothing but bait-and-switch, and making it up as it goes along |
| 02:36.16 | KiphereCE | I hate tryin to figure out saved variables. |
| 02:36.21 | bleetah | i'm still surpised the 'biggest' fantasy TV show is/was Xena... I would've thought by now some TV exec would've looked at the numbers playing mmorpg's and come up with a couple of seasons by now |
| 02:36.27 | KiphereCE | I should have gone with a simpler mod to save and worked from there. |
| 02:37.52 | Industrial | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_121506_03370106f.jpg |
| 02:37.56 | Industrial | um yeah |
| 02:37.59 | Industrial | new server? :P |
| 02:38.05 | Garoun|Loupana | I like to pretend taht didn't happen Bleetah |
| 02:38.34 | Neuro_Medivh | well, there's always Whorecraft |
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| 02:39.36 | Garoun|Loupana | looks almost GW inspired on the health/mana Ind |
| 02:39.42 | SP|Sorren | ckknight: nevermind, it only went off 9 times |
| 02:40.46 | SP|Sorren | is there any way i can stop CandyBars from collapsing? |
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| 02:42.30 | Neuro_Medivh | eat them really really fast before they melt? |
| 02:43.18 | bleetah | put them in the fridge? |
| 02:44.01 | SP|Sorren | ah, wrong channel. |
| 02:44.23 | Garoun|Loupana | grr, all the people that reactivated need to go away |
| 02:44.50 | Garoun|Loupana | stuckwith 100+ Q's on both of my servers and it's not even BC yet |
| 02:44.58 | Thunder_Child | someone please click the d/l link so i know it's not just me http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6197 |
| 02:45.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | 404 |
| 02:45.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | and php errors |
| 02:45.32 | SP|Sorren | Thunder_Child: many sendmail() errors |
| 02:45.41 | Thunder_Child | ok, not hjust me, thanks |
| 02:45.43 | Thunder_Child | just* |
| 02:46.02 | Thunder_Child | anyone at wowi would like to fix it.......*hint hint* |
| 02:46.55 | bleetah | not sendmail, sendemail() |
| 02:47.15 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 02:47.27 | Thunder_Child | well it's only one error, just replicated 6 times |
| 02:47.34 | Qshadowp | is a nVidia GeForce 6200 PCI-E 256MB good enough to run wow on? |
| 02:47.36 | bleetah | i'd slap 'em if they were using sendmail :P |
| 02:48.06 | Industrial | Garoun|Loupana: its 10% me :P |
| 02:48.07 | bleetah | prolly one error for recipeint, one for send, one for subject, one for body, etc. |
| 02:48.13 | bleetah | *sender |
| 02:49.27 | bleetah | i'm smart... and going by your last request... |
| 02:49.28 | Qshadowp | ~poke everyone |
| 02:49.37 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind everyone, pokes everyone repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 02:49.37 | bleetah | "if a nVidia GeForce 6200 PCI-E 256MB Graphics card is reasonable for playing wow on" |
| 02:49.45 | Qshadowp | bleetah i said is! |
| 02:50.12 | bleetah | you asked the smart people to tell you .. "if a nVidia..." :-P |
| 02:50.27 | Qshadowp | i said is :( |
| 02:50.36 | bleetah | not the second time |
| 02:50.49 | Garoun|Loupana | I thought inflight was able to auto-create the flight points |
| 02:51.05 | bleetah | anyways, my money would be more or less anything pic-x would be good enough |
| 02:51.06 | Qshadowp | yes, pokes all the smart people to tell me if ..... |
| 02:51.12 | Garoun|Loupana | before you actually visited them |
| 02:51.28 | Qshadowp | because my friend has some really old graphics card and he wants to play wow, so obviously a upgrade is needed |
| 02:51.58 | Qshadowp | that cards pretty cheap, only £24.95, just making sure it'll do the job for him :P |
| 02:52.01 | Garoun|Loupana | Industrial: ah ok :) |
| 02:52.39 | bleetah | if it's cheap and old, make sure it's not an AGP mobo, 'coz you're looking at PCI-X there |
| 02:52.48 | Qshadowp | good point |
| 02:53.04 | gnorlish | anandtech.com just released a GPU holiday guide |
| 02:53.20 | Kirkburn | In answer to your question - no I would get something better for TBC |
| 02:53.23 | gnorlish | could be helpful as a starting point |
| 02:53.23 | bleetah | my holiday loan just got approved \o/ |
| 02:53.33 | Qshadowp | oh well, imma hit the hay. |
| 02:53.35 | Qshadowp | night all :P |
| 02:53.36 | Kirkburn | I have a 6800 GT and even that has problems in Outland |
| 02:53.41 | Qshadowp | oh god |
| 02:53.47 | Qshadowp | i have a asus 256mb card |
| 02:53.48 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 02:53.50 | Garoun|Loupana | my holiday bonus went straight to my new 42" hdtv |
| 02:53.56 | gnorlish | that's not what i want to hear kb |
| 02:53.57 | Qshadowp | and i just bought my pc, i swear if i get lag, im going to shoot myself in the face. |
| 02:54.02 | Qshadowp | me either :( |
| 02:54.05 | gnorlish | i'm using a 6800 with equivalent processor |
| 02:54.07 | Kirkburn | Qshadowp, 256 mb card means nothing |
| 02:54.11 | gnorlish | and i'm not upgrading until march |
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| 02:54.24 | Qshadowp | im going to sleep before i fail anymore at hardware, night all :P |
| 02:54.30 | Kirkburn | hehe, night |
| 02:54.37 | bleetah | nn q |
| 02:55.17 | bleetah | on the subject of lag, I recently came up with a mod idea which may be my first 'ground up' mod. basically, every guild member has it, and on the mod chan it tells everyone what the latency of individual players are using the mod, then inserts UI latency so that everyone's dealing with the same lag. |
| 02:55.25 | bleetah | I name this mod 'OceaniaFTW!' |
| 02:55.41 | bleetah | should even out duels and PvP a little ;) :-P |
| 02:57.26 | Thunder_Child | might want to up the doseage Bleeter |
| 02:57.42 | Thunder_Child | bleetah* |
| 02:57.57 | bleetah | TC: same diff, one's the irssi session on my server |
| 02:58.20 | bleetah | nick announce set here to 'bleet', so .. ;) |
| 02:58.50 | Thunder_Child | 1 pound of salt will kill you |
| 02:58.58 | Thunder_Child | if eaten that is |
| 02:59.05 | Thunder_Child | not just in general |
| 02:59.15 | Thunder_Child | at once as well.... |
| 02:59.19 | abug | a pound of salt to the temple could be painful |
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| 02:59.53 | bleetah | a pounding assault to the temple would kill you |
| 03:00.11 | abug | how much water is needed to dissolve a pound of salt? |
| 03:00.46 | gnorlish | you mean table salt? |
| 03:00.50 | abug | yeah |
| 03:00.53 | Thunder_Child | vs floor aslt? |
| 03:00.54 | abug | nacl |
| 03:00.58 | Thunder_Child | salt* |
| 03:01.02 | abug | NaCl |
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| 03:01.15 | abug | speaking of NaCl |
| 03:01.21 | Thunder_Child | what about sea salt? |
| 03:01.48 | SP|Sorren | sea salt is a mixture of many different salts, i thought :P |
| 03:03.15 | Thunder_Child | i dunno |
| 03:03.45 | bleetah | Cairenn|afk: support bleed from #norganna ... any ideas if/when fizz's shoppinglist might get an update? |
| 03:03.55 | Thunder_Child | btw, there is always SPIT (SP Info Tracker) though it's maybe not exactly what you had in mind |
| 03:04.04 | bleetah | Cairenn|afk: I'm *guessing* when we've finished Auctioneer 4.0 ;-) |
| 03:06.28 | Thunder_Child | thanks to whomever fixed the d/l link |
| 03:06.51 | abug | d/l link? |
| 03:07.06 | bleetah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6197 |
| 03:09.00 | abug | pants |
| 03:10.35 | abug | is #norganna on this server? |
| 03:10.39 | nudave | yes |
| 03:10.51 | abug | mm |
| 03:11.03 | bleetah | i forgot cairenn's in there, too.. so apologies for what is basically spam |
| 03:11.18 | abug | one more channel to haunt |
| 03:15.40 | cogwheel | ... forum login down for anyone else? |
| 03:17.11 | bleetah | yay for sensible Oceanic rolling restart times! |
| 03:17.36 | bleetah | someone send the blizz guys some vegemite :-D |
| 03:17.40 | bleetah | ooh, and timtams |
| 03:18.40 | abug | cogwheel without a forum is like a bird without a beak, he can't eat |
| 03:20.15 | abug | poor bull |
| 03:20.15 | abug | or cow or whatever |
| 03:21.22 | cogwheel | I was a vegetarian for a year... |
| 03:21.32 | cogwheel | for no reason... |
| 03:21.45 | SP|Sorren | just to spite people, right? ;p |
| 03:22.36 | cogwheel | nope... not even that... I guess I just wanted to be able to say I was... :| |
| 03:23.15 | cogwheel | I was just standing in my kitchen one day making a quesadilla, and said "I want to be a vegetarian" |
| 03:23.19 | Industrial | How do I check the server time? |
| 03:24.03 | cogwheel | GetGameTime |
| 03:24.23 | cogwheel | When in doubt, http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API :P |
| 03:24.25 | Thunder_Child | hmmm..meat quesadilla? |
| 03:24.34 | cogwheel | nope |
| 03:24.36 | cogwheel | XD |
| 03:24.58 | abug | arg mexican food gives me gas |
| 03:25.15 | Industrial | 19, 24 ? |
| 03:25.15 | Industrial | :S |
| 03:25.26 | SP|Sorren | i can't live without meat :( |
| 03:26.19 | cogwheel | The first meat I ate 365 days after I started (though I can't say a year 'cause it was a leap :P) was beef jerkey |
| 03:27.08 | Thunder_Child | and 3 years later, he is still eating the same piece |
| 03:27.15 | SP|Sorren | lol |
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| 03:28.19 | Dekuna | ~xuerian |
| 03:28.26 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 03:28.26 | abug | ~jerky |
| 03:29.42 | KiphereCE | miserlou + guitarhero2 + hard = pain. |
| 03:30.00 | abug | purl, jerky is <reply> You fool, don't move...maybe Cogwheel won't see us... |
| 03:30.01 | purl | okay, abug |
| 03:30.02 | abug | ~jerky |
| 03:30.04 | purl | You fool, don't move...maybe Cogwheel won't see us... |
| 03:30.14 | cogwheel | XD |
| 03:30.33 | Thunder_Child | needs "" |
| 03:30.41 | KiphereCE | HI Cogwheel :p |
| 03:30.45 | KiphereCE | <=== Colonel from the forums. |
| 03:30.46 | Thunder_Child | it looks better that way |
| 03:31.24 | abug | that website makes me want to go bomb a circumcision clinic |
| 03:31.35 | abug | if such things existed |
| 03:31.51 | cogwheel | they're called "maternity wards" |
| 03:31.51 | KiphereCE | I want to reply with something witty |
| 03:31.52 | abug | but alas, I'll have to settle with killing level 1 critters |
| 03:31.54 | KiphereCE | but I'm sorta confused. |
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| 03:32.31 | cogwheel | heh... conversation started before you joined us :) |
| 03:32.33 | abug | hmm "maternity wards" |
| 03:32.38 | KiphereCE | some one posted an example of a way for me to do the saved variables for my mod but I'm seriously lacking motivation atm. |
| 03:33.07 | abug | if not SUPERTABLENAME then SUPERTABLENAME = { }; end |
| 03:33.10 | KiphereCE | btw, off hand question. When did it become fashionable to replace punctuation with "imo" |
| 03:33.26 | KiphereCE | I mean, even sentences that make no sense with the phrase "in my opinion" are ending with "imo" now. |
| 03:33.48 | KiphereCE | I don't have a main hand question equiped imo. |
| 03:34.05 | cogwheel | XD |
| 03:34.12 | cogwheel | I got it from cladhaire imo |
| 03:34.12 | bleetah | KiphereCE: about the same time as people foolishly started thinking their opinion was of any worth |
| 03:34.27 | KiphereCE | all opinions are worth just as much as modern currency. |
| 03:34.35 | bleetah | which is next to bugger all |
| 03:34.38 | cogwheel | most of the people I know who do it do it as a joke :) |
| 03:34.39 | Thunder_Child | nothing |
| 03:34.46 | cladhaire | KiphereCE: The only proper usage of imo is when its a statement of fact, and not an opinino. |
| 03:34.48 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:34.53 | KiphereCE | or: as much as worth as the general populace is willing to assign to it. |
| 03:35.29 | KiphereCE | some opinions take hold and no matter how worthless it is in reality, the masses flock to it and hold it as self evident. (imo) |
| 03:35.30 | bleetah | and I, looking at the average intelligence of the general population, give it very little worth |
| 03:35.33 | Thunder_Child | and make sure to use imho when you are going to be an ass about it |
| 03:35.54 | abug | I prefer IRHo |
| 03:35.54 | Osagasu | ~ugt |
| 03:35.57 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 03:36.27 | KiphereCE | ~wtf |
| 03:36.40 | End | ~wtf wtf |
| 03:36.53 | abug | Reported |
| 03:36.57 | KiphereCE | rofl. awesome |
| 03:37.15 | bleetah | and when |
| 03:37.43 | sancus_ | that is so dumb |
| 03:37.49 | abug | but so true |
| 03:37.51 | KiphereCE | gonna wake up early tomorrow, grab some starbucks, sit down in my home office and try to make some progress on this learning lua mission of mine. |
| 03:37.55 | End | ~wtf BOGAHICA |
| 03:38.10 | Industrial | ew |
| 03:38.13 | bleetah | if anyone's got a horde on elune, please send normal low level greens for testing enchantrix with |
| 03:38.34 | KiphereCE | once I get the saved variables working in my little practice mod I'm gonna start tryin to figure out how to add my own art to a frame. |
| 03:38.38 | sancus_ | no I mean ugt |
| 03:38.38 | bleetah | (please send low level greens to 'normal') |
| 03:38.41 | sancus_ | is really fucking dumb :P |
| 03:38.42 | Thunder_Child | i prefer BOHICA |
| 03:38.59 | KiphereCE | I prefer not bending over in general. |
| 03:39.06 | Thunder_Child | silly you |
| 03:39.09 | abug | ~DIAF |
| 03:39.15 | abug | ~DIAF purl |
| 03:39.18 | KiphereCE | lol |
| 03:39.20 | KiphereCE | thats not nice. |
| 03:39.25 | KiphereCE | ~giveyourselfacookie purl |
| 03:39.42 | Industrial | ~botsnack |
| 03:39.42 | purl | aw, gee, Industrial |
| 03:39.49 | KiphereCE | where's widgertick when you need him/her |
| 03:39.51 | KiphereCE | :p |
| 03:40.07 | KiphereCE | s/he was gonna look at my code and tell me how horrible of a person I am last night. |
| 03:40.33 | KiphereCE | I'm not sure that was proper english, but Mr. Bacardi says it doesnt matter. |
| 03:41.00 | abug | I'm not gonna comment on that |
| 03:41.20 | abug | although by not commenting have I made a comment? |
| 03:41.24 | bleetah | messers benedictine > mr bacardi |
| 03:42.00 | abug | ~comment purl |
| 03:42.09 | abug | purl, hello |
| 03:42.10 | purl | Howdy Bub |
| 03:43.38 | KiphereCE | what time is it in cali? |
| 03:43.48 | Thunder_Child | 7:41 |
| 03:43.53 | abug | purl, comment is <reply> A special place in source code for a programmer to show how much he or she does not understand his or her own code. |
| 03:43.56 | purl | ...but comment is already something else... |
| 03:43.56 | KiphereCE | wonder when the christmas junk goes in, midnight pst ? |
| 03:43.59 | abug | O RLY |
| 03:44.05 | abug | ~comment |
| 03:44.07 | purl | somebody said comment was what people say when they're innocent |
| 03:44.17 | abug | purl, well they're wrong |
| 03:44.35 | KiphereCE | abug gets lonely a lot eh? |
| 03:44.46 | KiphereCE | I'm still trying to figure out which one of you is the bot. |
| 03:44.53 | KiphereCE | ~abug cyber |
| 03:44.54 | purl | http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=cyber |
| 03:44.59 | KiphereCE | >_> |
| 03:45.04 | KiphereCE | rof |
| 03:45.07 | abug | arg still can't figure out how to get around that |
| 03:45.38 | abug | purl, o rly |
| 03:45.39 | purl | YA RLY! |
| 03:45.41 | abug | purl, no wai |
| 03:46.01 | abug | purl, "no wai" |
| 03:46.08 | KiphereCE | try no space? |
| 03:46.17 | abug | purl, nowai |
| 03:46.19 | purl | SRSLY. |
| 03:46.32 | bleetah | purl, mmkay |
| 03:46.34 | purl | i heard mmkay is a-ok |
| 03:46.43 | KiphereCE | That might be the first occurace of poor slang syntax I've ever observed. |
| 03:46.53 | Thunder_Child | ~retarded channel |
| 03:46.58 | abug | purl, you're wrong |
| 03:47.20 | KiphereCE | it's like watching a video of some one dining with a sex doll. |
| 03:47.22 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 03:47.24 | purl | ACTION shakes its fist at the forums |
| 03:47.33 | abug | purl, you're wrong is <reply> I reject your reality and substitute my own. |
| 03:47.35 | purl | abug: okay |
| 03:47.39 | abug | purl, you're wrong |
| 03:47.40 | purl | I reject your reality and substitute my own. |
| 03:48.04 | cogwheel | mmmmmmmmmmmmm cheeeeeeeese |
| 03:48.13 | SP|Sorren | that's what i was thinking |
| 03:48.13 | abug | ~cheese |
| 03:48.14 | purl | cheese is, like, stuff that grows in milk |
| 03:48.18 | cogwheel | cheese is by far my favorite food |
| 03:48.20 | SP|Sorren | ahahah |
| 03:48.27 | SP|Sorren | thats a great description of cheese |
| 03:48.32 | KiphereCE | I'm pretty fond of cheese myself. |
| 03:48.53 | End | ~waffles |
| 03:48.54 | purl | make waffles && make syrup && fork(waffles) |
| 03:48.59 | cogwheel | When I was in high school french, we had to choose french names for ourselves... mine was Fromage |
| 03:49.06 | KiphereCE | when I was in the army, when I first moved off base I used to get those party platter things for big gaming sessions and thats what i'd munch on all day. |
| 03:49.17 | abug | I have a personal hypothesis that cheese reminds us of breast milk, haven't done a formal study yet though |
| 03:49.37 | KiphereCE | I don't like milk. |
| 03:49.45 | KiphereCE | I like cheese. |
| 03:49.49 | abug | were you breast fed? |
| 03:49.57 | KiphereCE | dunno, I try not to ask those types of questions. |
| 03:50.00 | SP|Sorren | cogwheel: your teacher let you choose fromage? |
| 03:50.07 | cogwheel | XD |
| 03:50.09 | KiphereCE | judging by the sag, prolly. |
| 03:50.11 | cogwheel | yep... |
| 03:50.15 | SP|Sorren | my teacher make us pick normal names ;( |
| 03:50.19 | abug | wow good description |
| 03:50.42 | abug | anyone else breast fed who likes cheese? |
| 03:50.49 | Thunder_Child | you know, sometimes i am so very sorry i enter this channel |
| 03:51.04 | KiphereCE | anyone ever eat breastmilk cheese? |
| 03:51.13 | Thunder_Child | very very sorry |
| 03:51.15 | abug | save that for the followup study |
| 03:51.21 | KiphereCE | lol |
| 03:51.26 | KiphereCE | ~breast |
| 03:51.35 | KiphereCE | well tahts too bad. |
| 03:51.45 | cogwheel | poor purl... |
| 03:52.24 | End | ~poodle |
| 03:52.25 | purl | rumour has it, poodle is sl-5600/b500, or a dog |
| 03:52.37 | KiphereCE | any of you ever add a custom animation to a graphic in the UI? |
| 03:52.50 | KiphereCE | I'm wondering how much of a strain something I wanna do will put on it |
| 03:52.50 | abug | can't say I have |
| 03:53.24 | abug | depends how many times you change per second |
| 03:53.45 | abug | changing every onupdate would be painful |
| 03:53.56 | KiphereCE | well the graphic is gonna be fairly pretty :p |
| 03:54.13 | abug | porn? |
| 03:54.26 | KiphereCE | was gonan make a dagger with jewels of different colors. when you click one a line of poison that matches the color runs down the blade |
| 03:55.05 | KiphereCE | the jewels are just graphics, was going to be transparent buttons over them to trigger the effects. |
| 03:55.05 | abug | "poison" runs down from the tip of the "blade" I got ya |
| 03:55.14 | KiphereCE | totally not a penis reference. |
| 03:55.48 | KiphereCE | basically it would be a pretty graphic with places you could click to put poisons on yoru weapon as a rogue. |
| 03:56.06 | KiphereCE | the general concept of a transparent UI over a pretty picture is something I've been toying with. |
| 03:56.13 | abug | would be cool |
| 03:56.16 | KiphereCE | I did it for a few webpages using hotspots, etc. |
| 03:56.27 | KiphereCE | thats the where I got the idea. |
| 03:57.07 | KiphereCE | flash is the closest thing to creating interactive objects :p |
| 03:57.44 | KiphereCE | mainly did pretty little presentations and opening movies for a few EQ2 guilds and some other gaming organizations |
| 03:57.44 | KaoS- | ahh so stromstrike is bugged (confirmed by blue) not windfury.. yay |
| 03:58.01 | KiphereCE | how's it bugged? |
| 03:58.01 | abug | ss isn't triggering windfury? |
| 03:58.07 | KiphereCE | I havnt been using windfury since the patch. |
| 03:58.21 | KaoS- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=55819727&sid=1&pageNo=4 |
| 03:58.24 | KiphereCE | dual wield + flametongue has been treating me ebtter. |
| 03:58.31 | KaoS- | its not procing in PvP./ |
| 03:58.38 | KaoS- | or battlegrounds. |
| 03:58.52 | KiphereCE | wf isnt proccing on stormstrikes in pvp/bgs |
| 03:58.59 | KiphereCE | or wf itself isnt proccing at all? |
| 03:59.05 | KaoS- | why shammys are uber sucking in BG right now |
| 03:59.15 | KaoS- | stromstrike is not procing WF. |
| 03:59.17 | KiphereCE | oh |
| 03:59.18 | KaoS- | like its supposed to. |
| 03:59.22 | KiphereCE | explains why I don't notice. |
| 03:59.24 | KaoS- | its not doing it at all. |
| 03:59.38 | KiphereCE | I'ev been rockin in the 40-49 bracket at 42 on my shaman and its not twinked at all :) |
| 03:59.53 | KaoS- | in 60.. we suck |
| 03:59.54 | KaoS- | :/ |
| 04:00.04 | KaoS- | well if your enchant speced at elease. |
| 04:00.32 | KaoS- | but if SS is never procing WF.. that is what is hurting us. |
| 04:01.11 | End | yeah elemental spec is probably fine |
| 04:01.33 | abug | the elemental totems are cool, but it's like they replace more meaningful class abilities |
| 04:03.31 | KiphereCE | I dunno, I love dual wield shaman but I don't think I could play mine at 60-70 enhancement. |
| 04:03.49 | KiphereCE | I'm gonna go rogue or paladin with TBC launch. |
| 04:04.09 | KiphereCE | I prolly wont make up my mind until I'm sitting at the character select screen |
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| 04:06.56 | KiphereCE | judging by the general size, shaking noise, and charge on our bank account, my wife bought me a g15 keyboard :) can't wait to play with that thing |
| 04:08.13 | KaoS- | I think with the extra 10 points |
| 04:08.25 | KaoS- | in elements, would help alot |
| 04:08.34 | KaoS- | for enchant shammies. |
| 04:08.42 | KaoS- | uber dps.. :P |
| 04:09.05 | KiphereCE | my buddies shaman is doing really well on the DPS meters as dual wield. |
| 04:09.07 | Thunder_Child | gratz KiphereCE, but it's mostly a pointless keyboard |
| 04:09.18 | KiphereCE | he's always been enh though so his gear is completely built around it. |
| 04:09.36 | KaoS- | yeah if your gear is based on it |
| 04:09.37 | KaoS- | you will rock |
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| 04:09.49 | KiphereCE | Thunder: I know, but my general set up will benefit from it. |
| 04:09.49 | KaoS- | but if you just switched, and you have lots of +int gear (like I do..) |
| 04:09.50 | KaoS- | you blow :P |
| 04:10.19 | Thunder_Child | well i hope it works out for you |
| 04:10.27 | KiphereCE | right now I have all my numpad buttons bound to another bank of keys |
| 04:10.53 | Thunder_Child | yes but the g keys pull from other keys |
| 04:10.54 | KiphereCE | but I have to drop the mouse to use em. I like to move withthe mouse a lot so having buttons off to the left (I'm also left handed) will be more intuitive for me. |
| 04:10.59 | Thunder_Child | usualy the number keys |
| 04:11.09 | KiphereCE | if I can make them the numpad keys I'm cool with that. |
| 04:11.23 | Thunder_Child | yes thats basicly what they are |
| 04:11.37 | KiphereCE | I bought a little USB numpad at one point just to put the buttons on my left side. |
| 04:11.44 | KiphereCE | didnt work, I kept knocking the little fucker off. |
| 04:11.55 | Thunder_Child | double sided tape? |
| 04:12.14 | Thunder_Child | glue? |
| 04:12.14 | KiphereCE | I move my keybaord around a lot depending on how I'm sitting so it needs to be mobile |
| 04:12.18 | Thunder_Child | nail gun? |
| 04:12.23 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 04:12.26 | KiphereCE | paid midget with a good grip?! |
| 04:12.48 | bleetah | my gnome resembles that comment |
| 04:12.51 | Thunder_Child | umm.....are we still talking about the key pad? |
| 04:12.56 | KiphereCE | >_> |
| 04:13.06 | KiphereCE | no. |
| 04:13.13 | Thunder_Child | didnt think so |
| 04:13.23 | KiphereCE | So bleetah, you come here often? ~_^ |
| 04:13.25 | Thunder_Child | midgets with good grips are used for other things |
| 04:13.32 | KiphereCE | opening mini fridgets? |
| 04:13.35 | KiphereCE | fridges~ |
| 04:13.40 | Thunder_Child | ....not exactly |
| 04:13.53 | KiphereCE | miniature bull riding? |
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| 04:14.08 | Thunder_Child | your geting closer |
| 04:14.13 | KiphereCE | wait a sec |
| 04:14.13 | bleetah | KiphereCE: the only real work out my G15 gets, is running code blocks of mods I'm working on :-/ |
| 04:14.15 | Thunder_Child | it can involve riding |
| 04:14.16 | KiphereCE | does this involve your penis? |
| 04:14.24 | Thunder_Child | not mine |
| 04:14.27 | KiphereCE | oh |
| 04:14.39 | KiphereCE | bleetah, I'm lookin forward to using it for a variety of things. |
| 04:14.42 | KiphereCE | I'm a gadget geek |
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| 04:15.02 | bleetah | same, but the profiler sucks, and the inbuilt WoW binding also sux |
| 04:15.10 | KiphereCE | I wanna get one of those dual point touchscreen things |
| 04:15.18 | KiphereCE | I don't think WoW will support it though |
| 04:15.27 | bleetah | as far as I could tell, it drove me insane trying to get it to do something useful in under 5 mins |
| 04:15.30 | KiphereCE | pretty sure vista does |
| 04:15.31 | bleetah | so i gave up |
| 04:15.38 | Thunder_Child | KiphereCE, try this one on for size http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/77ba/ |
| 04:15.48 | KiphereCE | for WoW as long as I can bind my numpad to my macro buttons I'm set |
| 04:15.49 | xsarpedon | Is there an event that fires when a player logs out/quits normally? |
| 04:16.02 | bleetah | I got the G15Ubar mod thing, and I kind of expected drag spells etc. onto the map, and it'd work |
| 04:16.09 | bleetah | i must've missed some step, 'coz I got no bananas |
| 04:16.40 | KiphereCE | Thunder: looks like that would probably violate some ToS :p |
| 04:16.45 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 04:16.54 | KiphereCE | the dual touch stuff is killer. |
| 04:16.55 | Thunder_Child | it's not software though |
| 04:17.01 | KiphereCE | its like hving two mouse icons |
| 04:17.01 | bleetah | as you can tell, i really didn't proceed past the 'if I can't use it wothout having to read a flippin' manual'.. stage :-/ |
| 04:17.05 | Thunder_Child | it does say 3rd party programs |
| 04:17.15 | KiphereCE | well, i'm sure it has software to run it. |
| 04:17.38 | abug | vent is a third party program which hooks WoW, fun stuff |
| 04:17.38 | abug | not that they care |
| 04:17.38 | Thunder_Child | doesnt hook wow |
| 04:17.38 | KiphereCE | so when you profile one of your buttons to 'farm gold and check yen to dollar exchange rates' it'll trigger something at irvine |
| 04:17.47 | KiphereCE | xfire |
| 04:17.48 | abug | it hooks the input WoW uses |
| 04:18.08 | Thunder_Child | umm...not really |
| 04:18.12 | KiphereCE | anyway, I was about to wax poetic about dual touch :p |
| 04:18.31 | Thunder_Child | thoes are system resoureses that wow hooks onto |
| 04:18.34 | KiphereCE | imagine a giant touch pad thingy from a laptop but you can control interact with two points at a time ;) |
| 04:18.54 | Thunder_Child | i think i am going to get this with my tablet http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ |
| 04:18.57 | KiphereCE | its really fun and intuitive. |
| 04:19.21 | bleetah | i think i'll wait for the WoW Immersion Suit |
| 04:19.25 | KiphereCE | Thunder: I'm actualy getting one of those and one of the matchbook projectors for my lifedrive. |
| 04:19.55 | Thunder_Child | the lifedrive is too small for me |
| 04:20.03 | KiphereCE | it serves its purpose for me. |
| 04:20.12 | KiphereCE | its mostly a work tool and portable storage for office documents/email |
| 04:20.29 | Thunder_Child | this is what i am going to pick up http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_ts_le.asp |
| 04:21.16 | KiphereCE | not worth the pricetag imo |
| 04:21.28 | KiphereCE | I'm waiting for the second gen UMPCs to start landing. |
| 04:21.34 | KiphereCE | CES is gonna be pimp this time around. |
| 04:21.55 | KiphereCE | Sony is about the only company to do the UMPC right so far and theirs is still not worth it. |
| 04:22.16 | Thunder_Child | http://umpc.com/Devices.aspx |
| 04:22.18 | Garoun|Loupana | ~seen Neuro_Medivh |
| 04:22.32 | purl | neuro_medivh is currently on #wowi-lounge (10h 36m 27s). Has said a total of 96 messages. Is idling for 1h 40m 2s, last said: 'eat them really really fast before they melt?'. |
| 04:22.35 | KiphereCE | with some of the new battery tech, new screen tech, and the 3g cell networks popping up everywhere the second gen UMPCs shoudl be worthwhile |
| 04:23.10 | KiphereCE | thunder: seen all those, the onyl one thats even kinda good is the asus. |
| 04:23.30 | KiphereCE | and its frustrating for antyhing that involves text input, if it doesnt have a slide out thumb qwerty I wont even acknowledge it. |
| 04:25.40 | Thunder_Child | interesting, i cant even find the umpc on asus's site |
| 04:25.49 | KiphereCE | have you seen the latest sony one? |
| 04:25.51 | KiphereCE | its really nice |
| 04:25.54 | Thunder_Child | well not easily anyway |
| 04:25.57 | KiphereCE | and really expensive. |
| 04:26.08 | KiphereCE | most UMPCs are like the retarded cousin you hide in the backyard during thanksgiving |
| 04:26.25 | Thunder_Child | oh, well thats usualy me |
| 04:26.26 | KiphereCE | companies don't openly acknowledge them, all the 1st gen versions suck for the most part :p |
| 04:27.19 | KiphereCE | I'll most likely end up with a vaio ultra portable (hoping the make a solid tablet ultra portable soon) or a lenovo T70 or higher tablet |
| 04:27.48 | KiphereCE | none of the things on the market right now grab me, I mainly want mobile web access with a 'normal' browser not that mobile browser bs |
| 04:28.12 | Thunder_Child | picky picky picky |
| 04:28.21 | Osagasu | Is there any addon with a known bug that prevents the pet bar from showing up? |
| 04:28.39 | KiphereCE | "petbarhider" |
| 04:28.43 | KiphereCE | well, guess its nto a bug |
| 04:28.46 | Osagasu | *sigh* |
| 04:28.48 | KiphereCE | keke |
| 04:29.01 | KiphereCE | what mods are you using, it'd be easier to guess whcih ones causing it from a list probably. |
| 04:29.14 | KiphereCE | theres a lot of mods out there, asking if 'any' of them have a known bug involving the pet bar is a lil open ended. |
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| 04:29.40 | Osagasu | Well, I remember someone talking about it in the channel earlier |
| 04:29.48 | KiphereCE | on a related note, anyone payin attention to the room thats particularly savvy with ace? |
| 04:30.04 | KiphereCE | wondering if I should be learning how to use it while I'm learning Lua or if it woudl impede my progress as a newby |
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| 04:32.12 | Osagasu | Err, Cosmos, Fubar... |
| 04:32.18 | Osagasu | Nothing that should even touch the pet bat. |
| 04:32.20 | Osagasu | **bar |
| 04:32.42 | Osagasu | Know what the name of the frame is so I can do a text search for it? |
| 04:32.45 | KiphereCE | you using any mainbar mods at all? |
| 04:33.27 | Osagasu | Nope. |
| 04:33.43 | KiphereCE | the fram is called 'petactionframe' I think |
| 04:33.50 | KiphereCE | sorry |
| 04:33.52 | KiphereCE | petactionbarframe |
| 04:33.58 | KiphereCE | PetActionBarFrame to be exact :p |
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| 04:35.37 | Osagasu | Thank you. |
| 04:36.15 | KiphereCE | np |
| 04:36.44 | KiphereCE | oh well, out of Mtn Dew and I don't feel liek going down stairs for more ice. |
| 04:36.45 | KiphereCE | so.. |
| 04:36.52 | KiphereCE | going to bed ;) talk to y'all tomorrow. |
| 04:37.01 | Eternally777 | What?! Out of Mt. Dew?? That should be illegal. |
| 04:37.15 | Eternally777 | G'night ;) |
| 04:37.16 | KiphereCE | well, the glass is empty. Theres still dew in the house, just not cold :P |
| 04:37.23 | KiphereCE | Nightz0rs imo~ |
| 04:39.35 | xgravix | nooooooo mt dew is my blood |
| 04:40.10 | Thunder_Child | night kip |
| 04:45.59 | SP|Sorren | i miss fishease :( |
| 04:49.23 | TonyD | i misss one click recasting |
| 04:49.36 | TonyD | never saw a fishbot, tho |
| 04:56.46 | seebs | I never saw one either. I really liked Tacklebox, but I eventually just got in the habit of mapping the fishing action to one key, and another key to right click, so I could read a book while fishing. |
| 04:57.07 | seebs | The key is to get fishing a bit over 120, then stand under the tavern in Booty Bay, collecting rest bonus while fishing. |
| 04:59.27 | TonyD | yeah |
| 04:59.38 | TonyD | i used fishing buddy now, but hardly ever fish |
| 05:00.22 | seebs | They made it more annoying than it should be, IMHO. |
| 05:00.32 | seebs | I would fish if you could cast at a pool and hit it every time. |
| 05:12.02 | Neuro_Medivh | that's the one tradeskill I could never do |
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| 05:14.49 | seebs | It's what funded my guild back in the day. |
| 05:15.10 | seebs | Back when we had no 60s, we were just amazed at how fast you could make money fishing up stonescale eel. |
| 05:16.06 | sancus_ | I'm pretty sure that, if it weren't for fishbots, my guild wouldn't have had enough flasks of the titans ;p |
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| 05:23.57 | Garoun|Loupana | ping Neuro |
| 05:24.11 | Tierrie | does lua support unary operators like i++? |
| 05:26.22 | jaxdahl | i don't believe so |
| 05:26.33 | jaxdahl | or even += |
| 05:26.52 | abug | ~pingme |
| 05:26.59 | abug | ~ping abug |
| 05:27.01 | purl | pong abug |
| 05:27.01 | Tierrie | how about "continue" loops |
| 05:27.43 | abug | is "continue" a statement? |
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| 05:29.30 | seebs | No. |
| 05:29.50 | abug | in other languages I mean |
| 05:29.53 | seebs | Which annoys me, because I often want the continue (or "next") feature in a loop. |
| 05:29.54 | seebs | Oh. |
| 05:29.58 | seebs | Yes in some. |
| 05:30.02 | abug | what's it do? |
| 05:30.10 | seebs | In c, continue inside a for/while hops to the top of the loop. |
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| 05:30.24 | seebs | It skips the rest of the loop body, but doesn't leave the loop. |
| 05:30.29 | abug | ah okay |
| 05:30.37 | abug | like a return without leaving the loop |
| 05:30.45 | seebs | More like a break than like a return. |
| 05:30.46 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:30.49 | seebs | Hey. |
| 05:30.52 | Thunder_Child | hey ck |
| 05:32.20 | cogwheel | It's nowhere near complete, but it's a start: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Best_Practices I'm going to sleep now :) |
| 05:32.37 | abug | oo been needing something like that |
| 05:32.57 | abug | ~cookie cogwheel |
| 05:33.20 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 05:33.24 | Thunder_Child | lolz |
| 05:33.34 | cogwheel | purl, literal cookie |
| 05:33.39 | cogwheel | purl, literal cookie cogwheel |
| 05:33.49 | Thunder_Child | ~literal cookie |
| 05:34.02 | bleetah | what's the IP for wowwiki? seem to be getting DNS foo here :-/ |
| 05:34.05 | cogwheel | how'd you get it to say jerky? |
| 05:34.06 | Thunder_Child | ~botslap |
| 05:34.07 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, thunder_child! |
| 05:34.11 | abug | I dunno |
| 05:34.24 | cogwheel | or was that just a really frickin awesome coincidence? |
| 05:34.33 | abug | ~cookie cogwheel |
| 05:34.43 | abug | coincidence I guess |
| 05:34.56 | cogwheel | that's frickin awesome |
| 05:35.04 | cogwheel | (i said that already, didn't i?) |
| 05:35.10 | abug | that is pretty awesome |
| 05:36.45 | Thunder_Child | purl is acting very oddly |
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| 05:58.22 | abug | ~cookie abug |
| 05:58.40 | abug | ~cookie ckknight |
| 05:59.24 | Zicon | AAAAAAAAAAH |
| 05:59.29 | abug | o.0 |
| 05:59.29 | Zicon | The myspace, it burns my brain! |
| 05:59.35 | abug | ckknight is a girly man |
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| 06:01.06 | abug | ~cookie cide |
| 06:01.26 | abug | ~cookie c |
| 06:01.33 | abug | ~cookie Cide |
| 06:02.10 | abug | o.0 |
| 06:02.22 | abug | purl, you're possessed |
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| 06:02.45 | abug | hey ckknight |
| 06:02.50 | abug | is this you: http://www.myspace.com/ckknight |
| 06:02.54 | ckknight | hey, abug |
| 06:02.56 | ckknight | no, it's not |
| 06:03.04 | abug | too bad |
| 06:03.40 | abug | ~cookie Cide |
| 06:04.28 | abug | ~mactattack purl |
| 06:04.29 | purl | ACTION uses jumper cables to stun purl! |
| 06:04.38 | abug | ~mactattack purl |
| 06:04.39 | purl | ACTION jumps on bell rope, causing bell to hit purl! |
| 06:05.56 | abug | purl, ghostbusters |
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| 06:25.24 | Nom- | purl: bbq |
| 06:25.26 | purl | rumour has it, bbq is http://ghg.ecn.purdue.edu/~ghg/grill1.mpeg |
| 06:28.55 | Cairenn|afk | quiet night |
| 06:30.47 | Nom- | omg lol |
| 06:30.52 | Nom- | liquid o2 on bbq |
| 06:31.17 | bleetah | all the poms are afk crying |
| 06:37.41 | Nom- | oh noes, call a whambulance? |
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| 06:52.40 | TonyD | poms? |
| 06:53.04 | seebs | Isn't that derisive slang for Brits? |
| 06:53.18 | TonyD | possibly |
| 06:53.22 | Wobin | we |
| 06:53.24 | Wobin | well |
| 06:53.29 | Wobin | not necessarily derisive |
| 06:53.33 | TonyD | or it may be a brit derisive slang for gay guys |
| 06:53.39 | TonyD | who can keep track |
| 06:53.41 | Wobin | that's poof |
| 06:53.47 | TonyD | that too |
| 06:53.50 | seebs | Well, nothing is NECESSARILY derisive. |
| 06:53.53 | Wobin | All aussies call the brits poms |
| 06:54.02 | TonyD | from s certain point of view |
| 06:54.21 | TonyD | and for a certain definition of the word derisive |
| 06:54.35 | Wobin | where derisive == general usage =P |
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| 06:56.35 | seebs | You can tell I'm new at modding. I'm all enthused because I got a bug report. |
| 06:56.58 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:57.12 | seebs | Hi. |
| 06:58.51 | Cairenn|afk | hey s|loup :) |
| 06:58.55 | Cairenn|afk | seebs: *chuckle* |
| 06:59.29 | seebs | Eh, what can I say. When I have the bug, I love excuses to do something. Since my program does what I want (except for scrolling, and that's Blizz's problem in this case), I'm now bored. |
| 07:04.19 | Xuerian | seebs: Welcome to me, two months ago. |
| 07:04.30 | Xuerian | seebs: Haven't stopped working on the same mod. |
| 07:04.34 | Xuerian | >.> |
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| 07:40.05 | Kaso | arg :< im gonna have to re-write half my code for 2.0.2 to use the various SetText() functions rather than AddLines etc :< |
| 07:40.24 | MentalPower | welcome to the club |
| 07:41.31 | Kaso | or, i could do a metatable hooks of all the various Set Functions and the GetFunctions, then make em return the correct value even after i've cleared the tooltip |
| 07:43.21 | Kaso | oh, didnt they change something with metatables in 2.0? |
| 07:45.11 | MentalPower | yes, the __index entry is now a table instead of a C function |
| 07:48.53 | ckknight | much faster ;-) |
| 07:50.19 | Tierrie | is there a GetStupidMoonOrStarOrSkullRaidIcon()? |
| 07:50.54 | MentalPower | GetRaidIconIndex() or somesuch |
| 07:51.05 | Tierrie | danke |
| 07:52.02 | Tierrie | no danke! no danke! |
| 07:52.25 | Tierrie | GetRaidTargetIndex() danke |
| 07:54.49 | MentalPower | :) |
| 08:21.30 | [Liquidor] | Alpha = Beta = Delta -- valid? |
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| 08:22.20 | mjgoossen | Hell. |
| 08:22.30 | mjgoossen | s/Hell/Hello/ |
| 08:22.42 | mjgoossen | ops, lol |
| 08:23.38 | [Liquidor] | :) |
| 08:23.58 | [Liquidor] | ~hug name |
| 08:24.08 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on name and suddenly hugs name tightly |
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| 08:24.10 | [Liquidor] | ~slap Cide |
| 08:24.12 | purl | ACTION slaps Cide, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
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| 08:33.28 | Tem | ~emulate pinky |
| 08:33.30 | purl | NARF! |
| 08:33.35 | Tem | :) |
| 08:33.42 | Mike-N-Go | Is there a 'help' channel for the irc.freenode.net server? |
| 08:34.12 | Tem | you could try #freenode |
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| 08:35.16 | [Liquidor] | NARF - hehe |
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| 09:29.30 | Kaso | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n52v0bVpWis haha |
| 09:32.25 | phreaky | http://www.fjolletobak.com/downloadsnew/sub_17911.jpg |
| 09:45.33 | Tierrie | can you fire an event like "UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE" just so blizzard's UI is forced to update the portrait? i have a stupid tiny bug where if i turn off the portrait and turn it back on the picture is not set |
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| 11:09.01 | phreaky | someone plz make an addon that ignores msg's with urls from non friends/guildmates.. Nowdays I'm getting like 10-20 whispers about goldselling sites every day =( |
| 11:12.54 | Qshadowp | lol i think i found some kind of hidden page with a typo |
| 11:13.21 | Qshadowp | wwww.auctioneeraddon.com with 4 w's takes you to a website with all the stuff norganna did :D |
| 11:13.24 | Qshadowp | hax. |
| 11:15.12 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 11:15.40 | Qshadowp | :) |
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| 11:17.53 | Antari2 | Anything other than www takes you there it seems, it's a generic redirect, such as wwww3 or wwwwe, etc |
| 11:18.09 | Fisker | so wait? |
| 11:18.12 | Fisker | he made pastey? |
| 11:18.32 | Fisker | cool |
| 11:18.35 | Qshadowp | dunno |
| 11:18.45 | Qshadowp | kinda scary if he did because i use that all the time lol |
| 11:18.50 | Fisker | he did :P |
| 11:19.12 | Qshadowp | :O |
| 11:20.23 | Antari2 | It says right on the main page, not sure how you missed it before: "Enjoy! -- Norganna." |
| 11:21.33 | Qshadowp | oh yea ;O |
| 11:21.35 | Qshadowp | dam lol |
| 11:21.58 | Fisker | i never read pages |
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| 11:42.42 | Malivil | That's a redirect to norganna.org |
| 11:48.57 | Kaso | ok this is really bugging me |
| 11:49.06 | Kaso | what's it called when you do something like this |
| 11:49.17 | Kaso | foo = (bar == true and "yes" or "no" |
| 11:49.45 | Kaso | ) |
| 11:49.51 | zenzelezz | messy |
| 11:50.24 | Kaso | it has a real name |
| 11:50.35 | zenzelezz | I know, but I can't remember ;) |
| 11:50.40 | Kaso | haha |
| 11:50.54 | Kaso | its been bugging me for the last hour |
| 11:57.41 | zenzelezz | hm, didn't notice the winter revelers were already back |
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| 11:59.05 | Kaso | phreaky |
| 12:04.05 | xsarpedon | Is there an event that fires when a player logs out/quits normally? |
| 12:04.17 | Kaso | PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD |
| 12:04.20 | Kaso | well |
| 12:04.23 | Kaso | no, actually |
| 12:04.31 | Kaso | that fires whenever you zone/logout |
| 12:05.22 | Kaso | but itll do the job. |
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| 12:28.11 | xsarpedon | Thanks |
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| 12:41.45 | wereHamster | what does teh command do? |
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| 12:44.29 | TC_sleeping | launches a nuke at the closest raid member, iirc |
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| 12:50.32 | Wobin | kaso |
| 12:50.39 | Kaso | yus? |
| 12:50.44 | Wobin | Ternery operator |
| 12:50.49 | Kaso | i love you! |
| 12:51.08 | zenzelezz | is that really the term? I thought that was ? |
| 12:51.17 | Wobin | This is lua'[s version |
| 12:51.30 | Wobin | (a<b?c:d) |
| 12:51.31 | Gngsk | but it doesn't work exactly the same, right? |
| 12:51.44 | Wobin | is the same as a<b and c or d |
| 12:51.52 | Wobin | it works the same |
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| 12:52.09 | zenzelezz | oh, I see |
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| 13:30.21 | Kaso | whats wrong with this |
| 13:30.25 | Kaso | string.find("|Hplayer:Pwnstar|h[Pwnstar]|h: Level 60 Troll Mage <Forty Seven Ronin> - Blackrock Spire","%|Hplayer%:%a+%|h%[%a+%]%|h%: Level %d+ %a+ %a+ %<%a+%> %- %a+") |
| 13:32.10 | Kaso | i cant think of any possible reason |
| 13:32.24 | Kaso | ive escaped every single non alpha-numeric char |
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| 13:36.40 | KiphereCE | blasted internetz. |
| 13:36.42 | KiphereCE | morning. |
| 13:36.52 | KiphereCE | Hey, widgertick ;) |
| 13:39.30 | wereHamster | Kaso,does %a contain whitespace? |
| 13:41.24 | wereHamster | "%|Hplayer%:%a+%|h%[%a+%]%|h%: Level %d+ %a+ %a+ %<.-%> %- %a+" works |
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| 13:43.01 | KiphereCE | blah, to starbucks or not to starbucks. |
| 13:43.07 | wereHamster | "%|Hplayer%:%a+%|h%[%a+%]%|h%: Level %d+ %a+ %a+ %<[%a%s]-%> %- %a+" works, too |
| 13:43.39 | KiphereCE | btw, been meaning to ask but in lua what does % generally represent? |
| 13:44.08 | KiphereCE | purl, good morning |
| 13:44.18 | purl | Good morning, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 13:44.51 | KiphereCE | ok, starbucks wins, afk for a few minutes |
| 13:46.17 | wereHamster | KiphereCE, yopu need to escape special characters with % |
| 13:47.00 | wereHamster | to match a '[' you need to use '%[', because a '[' in the pattern means something special |
| 13:48.09 | wereHamster | the pattern '[abc]' means 'a' or 'b' or 'c' |
| 13:48.49 | wereHamster | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_Pattern_Matching |
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| 13:51.28 | Industrial | Wobin: since when does lua have a ternary operator? :D |
| 13:51.42 | Wobin | It doesn't |
| 13:51.45 | Wobin | but it can fake one |
| 13:52.18 | Industrial | hm |
| 13:52.21 | Industrial | k |
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| 13:56.53 | Josh_Borke | morning! |
| 13:57.00 | krka | a and b or c works like a ? b : c except for when b is nil or false |
| 13:58.44 | Industrial | if a then b else c end |
| 13:58.49 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:04.36 | Garoun|Loupana | amazon needs to get their shit together |
| 14:06.07 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, that's ok, they are just saying I should get my TBC CE on the 17th instead of 16th, I can live with that |
| 14:12.14 | KiphereCE | yay I'm home with a gingerbread latte in tow. |
| 14:12.47 | KiphereCE | werehamster, what do you mean you need to escape special characters? I'm a bit new |
| 14:16.16 | wereHamster | the wiki page is quite useful, and the lua-users.org webpage also has a few examples |
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| 14:19.05 | hugo | hi |
| 14:19.11 | Industrial | lo |
| 14:19.13 | Industrial | :p |
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| 14:23.03 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 |
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| 14:34.28 | KiphereCE | oh shitz, winterveil |
| 14:34.29 | KiphereCE | afk |
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| 14:40.21 | Bouvi | Morning |
| 14:41.57 | Bouvi | I downloaded this tutorial http://wow.nevir.net/tutorial/ from the link from the WoWInterface.com site and of course it did not work lol. Or I did something supremely stupid. (Which is possible) |
| 14:42.55 | hugo | i got some problem with target frame, i see both aguf target and the blizard tarfet frame (only the gfx, the hp mana and portrait are empty) any idea to remove it ? |
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| 14:46.47 | |FF|Im2good4u | i think blizzard frames are proteced and cant be removed .. but im probley wrong i never understod that protected frames stuff :P |
| 14:47.02 | Cairenn|afk | Bouvi: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 #17 |
| 14:48.57 | hugo | no you see |
| 14:49.00 | zenzelezz | also Bouvi, it helps if you explain what problem you're having, not just stating you have one :) |
| 14:49.00 | hugo | i turn on ag_uf |
| 14:49.10 | hugo | blizard player frame disapear |
| 14:49.23 | hugo | but i see still target frame (empty) just the gfx |
| 14:49.26 | hugo | when i select frame |
| 14:49.29 | hugo | ;x |
| 14:52.12 | hugo | and cant play with it like that ;| |
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| 14:53.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | how can this posable work ? |
| 14:53.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | 00009: <OnEvent> |
| 14:53.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | 00010: ChatFrame_OnEvent(event); |
| 14:54.11 | |FF|Im2good4u | should first para be frame > |
| 14:54.38 | cogwheel | |FF|Im2good4u: the code in CF_OE still uses the global "this" to refer to the frame... |
| 14:54.56 | cogwheel | and all the global argN variables |
| 14:55.21 | |FF|Im2good4u | but in this case first parameter is "event" should this get assinged the frame instead of the event then ? |
| 14:56.29 | cogwheel | Of course, he could easily change the definition of CF_OE to function ChatFrame_OnEvent(this, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10) and change the call to ChatFrame_OnEvent(self, event, ...) and not have to change any code :) |
| 14:57.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | right but it doesnt realy matter if u add the frame to call if u dont use it |
| 14:57.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | if u only need the "event" then its fine to leaf it out i gues |
| 14:57.39 | hugo | http://hugo.rytir.com/bliztargetframe.jpg heres pic of the problem ;x |
| 14:57.41 | cogwheel | well, he does use it... he just uses it through the "this" global instead of the local parameter |
| 14:59.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm yes :P i was just thinking allwrong on this xml part i though if u call a function like lol(a1,a2) a1 would always be the frame and a2 would be the event but it are the actual names salf / event that refer to the local variables |
| 15:01.07 | cogwheel | yeah... the difference is that he's calling CF_OE from inside the OnEvent handler of the chat frame. If he had done ChatFrame1:SetScript("OnEvent", ChatFrame_OnEvent) then it would work the way you were thinking :) |
| 15:02.32 | TC_sleeping | hugo, that could be A) an error with whatever unit interface addon that you installed and B) it could be a default "thing that you can toggle that i cant remember" that blizz put in |
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| 15:06.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | cogwheel i actualy wasnt talking about any ? CF_OE ? but i was tlaknig about blizzard default chatframe onevent :P |
| 15:07.00 | cogwheel | CF_OE .... [C]hat[F]rame_[O]n[E]vent... |
| 15:07.02 | cogwheel | :P |
| 15:07.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | Oo now u tell me |
| 15:07.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol |
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| 15:10.02 | |FF|Im2good4u | the thing is need to moddify messages and choosed todo so in the CF_OE since then i recieve tmhe for all 7 chatframe :P i jsut realise that onlt paramater i can / have to pass to the hook is only "event" since its on oldstyle |
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| 15:13.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | OnHyperlinkEnter <- oO FTW so i can make the tooltip opup instead >.> |
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| 15:30.29 | KiphereCE | hooray for winterveil :P |
| 15:32.25 | Qshadowp | ~poke everyone |
| 15:32.27 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind everyone, pokes everyone repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 15:34.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | will select(2,...) be the same as arg2 ? |
| 15:35.14 | Osagasu | ~lart Qshadowp |
| 15:35.42 | Osagasu | ~lart Qshadowp |
| 15:35.52 | Osagasu | ~lart Qshadowp |
| 15:35.53 | cogwheel | |FF|Im2good4u: inside an OnEvent script, yes |
| 15:36.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | k |
| 15:36.03 | Osagasu | ~lart Qshadowp |
| 15:36.03 | cogwheel | |FF|Im2good4u: but you can also use a name instead |
| 15:36.13 | Osagasu | Okay, I'm done. |
| 15:36.17 | cogwheel | ~lart Qshadowp & Osagasu |
| 15:36.20 | Qshadowp | ]/me loses half of his hair. |
| 15:36.29 | Qshadowp | lol |
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| 15:36.59 | Osagasu | Draenei DO got back. |
| 15:37.03 | Osagasu | >.> |
| 15:39.37 | Qshadowp | undercity is so annoying lol |
| 15:40.15 | Qshadowp | aha, found it |
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| 15:40.57 | Osagasu | The mailbox is easy. |
| 15:41.00 | Osagasu | It's in the ring! |
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| 15:41.15 | Qshadowp | :P |
| 15:41.27 | Qshadowp | org > uc |
| 15:41.35 | Qshadowp | i go to org all the time on my ally char :D |
| 15:41.38 | Osagasu | Oh god no. |
| 15:41.43 | Osagasu | Org is so laggy |
| 15:41.49 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 15:41.54 | Qshadowp | tis fun i go there and fish |
| 15:41.56 | Bouvi | I got to UC on my Alliance rogue all the time. Fun trips |
| 15:42.06 | Qshadowp | and sometimes some hordes come and fish with me :D |
| 15:42.10 | Qshadowp | <3 |
| 15:43.20 | Osagasu | WOOOT! |
| 15:43.34 | Osagasu | The draenei have annoyance sound bytes! |
| 15:43.38 | Osagasu | "You are... not normal" |
| 15:43.51 | Osagasu | "The Naaru frown upon such behaviour." |
| 15:44.02 | Osagasu | "Even the patience of the Draenei has its limits." |
| 15:44.47 | Qshadowp | :P |
| 15:46.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | "you have new mail" |
| 15:46.18 | |FF|Im2good4u | then u open it and its a buy gold for cheap mail :x |
| 15:46.40 | Qshadowp | yea i get that sometimes ;p |
| 15:46.47 | Qshadowp | one of the reasons im rerolling to horde |
| 15:47.03 | Qshadowp | less noobs on horde, means less gold sold, means less gold farmed, means less bots and spam :) |
| 15:47.25 | Osagasu | If only it ACTUALLY worked that way. |
| 15:48.02 | Osagasu | More jerkoffs on horde = more good people willing to buy gold = same amount of gold farmed = same amount of bots and spam. |
| 15:48.10 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 15:48.24 | Osagasu | I've played to 60 both sides. |
| 15:48.31 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 15:48.33 | Qshadowp | what about raiding? |
| 15:48.42 | Qshadowp | generally all the good guilds are horde |
| 15:48.51 | Qshadowp | curse, nihilem :P |
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| 15:49.48 | Osagasu | DnT? |
| 15:50.03 | xsarpedon | Death and Taxes... |
| 15:50.04 | Qshadowp | spose :P |
| 15:50.13 | xsarpedon | lol my bad |
| 15:50.47 | Qshadowp | lol well since you have rolled both sides i guess ill ask you a question |
| 15:51.20 | Qshadowp | i currently have a level 60 alliance mage, on a really really crappy realm. |
| 15:51.30 | Qshadowp | should i pay for PCT? reroll horde? :P |
| 15:52.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | allience ppl just look sexeh |
| 15:52.12 | |FF|Im2good4u | but bloodelf beat us all :( |
| 15:52.13 | Qshadowp | lol y alliance human mage is sexy :P |
| 15:52.14 | xsarpedon | Dwarf Females ftw |
| 15:53.08 | Qshadowp | so what should i do to get the best experiance playing anyways |
| 15:53.25 | Scre3m | horde for sure |
| 15:53.32 | Qshadowp | :) |
| 15:54.04 | Scre3m | i'm going to roll a blood elf mage, bummed there are no blood elf druids |
| 15:54.44 | Scre3m | currently have a 60 undead war, 60 troll rogue, 60 troll priest, 60 undead warlock |
| 15:54.50 | Scre3m | 41 troll hunter ;) |
| 15:54.56 | cladhaire | my belf will be a lock |
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| 15:55.25 | Qshadowp | is it true that if you make a char on bc beta once bc beta goes live it'll get deleted? |
| 15:55.34 | Scre3m | probably |
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| 15:55.40 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 15:55.42 | cladhaire | Qshadowp: yes. |
| 15:55.45 | xsarpedon | Beta chars will not cary over. |
| 15:55.49 | cladhaire | that's the way blizzard betas always work |
| 15:55.51 | Qshadowp | aww. |
| 15:56.26 | Qshadowp | should i keep leveling my undead horde mage, or should i wait for tbc and roll a belf mage? |
| 15:56.47 | Scre3m | matter of taste |
| 15:56.48 | Qshadowp | im more of a person that likes to have one main char, i dont really like leveling at all. |
| 15:57.16 | Qshadowp | well im wondering if there will be a great need in guilds for belf 70 mages? |
| 15:57.37 | Scre3m | definitely for mages |
| 15:57.37 | xsarpedon | AoE silence can't hurt... |
| 15:57.55 | Qshadowp | oO |
| 15:58.00 | Scre3m | the aggro will hurt :) |
| 15:58.06 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 15:58.14 | Qshadowp | so basically i should just chill out prepare myself for tbc |
| 15:58.19 | Qshadowp | and then roll myself a belf mage |
| 15:58.31 | Scre3m | there ya go |
| 15:58.34 | axxo | screw rerolling, play your main |
| 15:58.37 | Scre3m | and come to Thrall and join Circus :) |
| 15:58.45 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 15:58.54 | Qshadowp | axxo but im fed up with playing on alliance |
| 15:59.02 | Qshadowp | maybe its just the server im on, but everyone is noob :s |
| 15:59.19 | xsarpedon | It's a MMORPG lots of players are idiots on both sides... |
| 15:59.33 | Qshadowp | apparently some italian magazine said that all the italians should buy wow, and come to my realm. |
| 15:59.38 | Scre3m | lot's more on alliace side tho |
| 15:59.43 | Qshadowp | end result: all the 10 year old italians that read magazines end up on my realm |
| 15:59.44 | Scre3m | by an order of magnitude |
| 15:59.59 | axxo | Qshadowp: transfer |
| 16:00.10 | xsarpedon | Get in a good guild and life improves :p |
| 16:00.14 | Qshadowp | axxo i plan too, just which realm to go to is the question :P |
| 16:00.33 | Scre3m | Thrall!! |
| 16:00.38 | xsarpedon | Are you PvP or PvE? |
| 16:00.51 | Qshadowp | at the moment i have alot of pvp gear |
| 16:00.57 | Qshadowp | but i do a bit of both. |
| 16:00.59 | xsarpedon | Realmwise I meant |
| 16:01.02 | Qshadowp | pvp. |
| 16:01.14 | Qshadowp | no carebear realms for me ^_^ |
| 16:01.23 | Scre3m | oh |
| 16:01.29 | Scre3m | not Thrall! =p |
| 16:01.33 | Qshadowp | ]lol |
| 16:01.40 | Qshadowp | Scre3m carebear! |
| 16:01.48 | xsarpedon | I play on Arch and it's decent, I don't have much of a background elsewhere to compare it to though |
| 16:02.07 | xsarpedon | *Archimonde that is |
| 16:02.20 | Qshadowp | hmm |
| 16:02.29 | KiphereCE | I'm rerolling on a new server when TBC launches :p |
| 16:02.29 | Qshadowp | see the problem is i really wanna be 100% sure that im on a good realm |
| 16:02.32 | KiphereCE | need a fresh start. |
| 16:02.37 | Qshadowp | i dont wanna end up on another asd ita realm :( |
| 16:02.47 | KiphereCE | you can always move off the realm :p |
| 16:02.57 | Qshadowp | KiphereCE yea but i'd be stuck there for 3 months atleast :( |
| 16:02.59 | KiphereCE | if the 'new' realm goes to shit for me and my friends we're just moving to one of our other friends realms |
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| 16:03.01 | xsarpedon | Well...I can tell you that Arch doesn't have a large italian popilation...does that help lol |
| 16:03.02 | Qshadowp | and then i'd have to pay again ;P |
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| 16:03.12 | malreth | GRWAWWWWWW!!!! |
| 16:03.13 | Qshadowp | yea that helps somewhat :P |
| 16:03.19 | KiphereCE | I'm rerolling so... |
| 16:03.22 | Qshadowp | malreth moo. |
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| 16:03.29 | KiphereCE | its not a matter of three months for me, I'll be leveling up, shitty realm or not. |
| 16:03.31 | Qshadowp | also at malreth :P |
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| 16:03.36 | KiphereCE | at 70 if the realm blows I'll just move to a realm I know |
| 16:03.39 | Qshadowp | spose :P |
| 16:03.46 | KiphereCE | back to one that I know is 'ok' |
| 16:03.48 | KiphereCE | none of them are good. |
| 16:04.07 | malreth | i've been making pop- and sub-culture references on the ui forum for like 2 days now and no one's picked up on them... :p |
| 16:04.24 | axxo | maybe nobody cares |
| 16:04.45 | KiphereCE | pop-culture in general offends my delicate sensibilities. |
| 16:04.47 | malreth | but... |
| 16:04.57 | KiphereCE | no but. |
| 16:05.02 | KiphereCE | purl, kill |
| 16:05.05 | malreth | if no one cares... how am i to express my narcissistic tendencies? |
| 16:05.14 | Scre3m | i don't even know what pop and sub culture is |
| 16:05.22 | malreth | I only want to be loved and adored... |
| 16:05.29 | malreth | and touched... |
| 16:05.33 | KiphereCE | cover yourself in candy and go to an elementry school |
| 16:05.37 | Scre3m | join #weirdness and talk with smeg |
| 16:05.41 | Scre3m | he's adore you |
| 16:05.53 | Scre3m | s/\'s/\'ll/ |
| 16:06.06 | KiphereCE | dress up like an underaged asian child with a cat tail and ears and go to 4chan? |
| 16:06.12 | malreth | ugh! |
| 16:06.14 | malreth | not 4chan |
| 16:06.21 | Qshadowp | (16:03:05) (kurthectic) im in your warsong (16:03:10) (kurthectic) stealing your flagz |
| 16:06.22 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 16:06.28 | malreth | i only go there for futanari porn |
| 16:06.33 | malreth | oops! |
| 16:06.46 | KiphereCE | entertain me for 42 minutes. |
| 16:06.55 | KiphereCE | I'm waiting for mistletoe to wear off so I can kiss another orc |
| 16:07.06 | Qshadowp | xD |
| 16:07.14 | KiphereCE | already made my cookies and saved metzen :p |
| 16:07.25 | Qshadowp | so we where talking about where i should realm transfer too. |
| 16:07.30 | malreth | aaaaargh... i hate that metzen quest |
| 16:07.36 | KiphereCE | I wouldnt transfer yet Q |
| 16:07.47 | KiphereCE | might as well just reroll at expansion launch ;) |
| 16:07.58 | KiphereCE | I've got 4 60's basically colelcting dust. |
| 16:08.06 | KiphereCE | well, one got banned cause my bosses son is an idiot. |
| 16:08.11 | Qshadowp | at expansion launch i wanna be at level 60 ready to charge at level 70 :P |
| 16:08.22 | KiphereCE | blah, I wanna do a fresh start |
| 16:08.45 | KiphereCE | the transition from 60-65 is weird, you get a lot of sidegrades if you're even remotely equiped at 60 |
| 16:09.02 | KiphereCE | but if you start over, when you hit 60 the transition is smoother and you get into the content and don't feel like you're getting crap from instances |
| 16:09.27 | KiphereCE | plus I don't wanna live on a server thats coated in twinked Belfs and blueberries |
| 16:09.46 | Bouvi | I have only leveled my rogue to 61 (don't want to burn it out so just redoing everything at launch with wife). |
| 16:10.02 | Bouvi | But the only thing I have upgraded so far is my crossbow. |
| 16:10.19 | KiphereCE | theres not a lot of real quality upgrades if you've got decent gear for a 60 |
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| 16:10.48 | KiphereCE | whereas if you hit 60 and then go to BC you can essentially skip MC (YAY) and later go back to BWL/Naxx etc higher than 60 and it sitll be worthwhile |
| 16:10.53 | KiphereCE | and a lil less painful ;) |
| 16:10.54 | Bouvi | Yeah I have Tier 1 and 2 gear. 4 of each so nothing really an upgrade. |
| 16:11.03 | KiphereCE | my whole reason for rerolling. |
| 16:11.10 | Qshadowp | ~poke purl |
| 16:11.12 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 16:11.16 | Qshadowp | muhahaha. |
| 16:11.27 | KiphereCE | my hunter is in mostly teir2, my rogue in teir2/1, druid in GM armor with his aq20 epic weapon |
| 16:11.34 | cladhaire | Bouvi: O hai =) |
| 16:11.39 | Bouvi | I am leveling up a mage right now. Been in the game since open beta and only have 1 60. My mage is 38 and the highest alt I ever had lol. |
| 16:11.40 | KiphereCE | ~love purl |
| 16:11.48 | purl | If you love purl so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 16:11.55 | KiphereCE | rofl |
| 16:12.03 | KiphereCE | well, my first server was Laughing Skull |
| 16:12.08 | KiphereCE | and the leeroy thing killed it for me. |
| 16:12.20 | KiphereCE | so I left the server and rolled up an alliance druid |
| 16:12.25 | Bouvi | Been on Stormrage since Day 1 |
| 16:12.26 | KiphereCE | hit 60, hit GM, got bored |
| 16:12.36 | KiphereCE | went back to LS, leveled my rogue, hit 60, geared out and my guild sploded. |
| 16:12.51 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 16:13.01 | KiphereCE | then my bosses kid was on my account and doing stupid things |
| 16:13.09 | KiphereCE | called a GM a racist word when he got contacted abotu griefing |
| 16:13.11 | KiphereCE | and got it banned |
| 16:13.28 | Qshadowp | IM ON UR AKOUNT SPAMMING GMZ |
| 16:13.31 | Qshadowp | :O |
| 16:13.31 | KiphereCE | so I've just been foolin around off and on until TBC comes out |
| 16:13.44 | amro | anyone here good with the lua C API? |
| 16:13.44 | Bouvi | Just made 130+ gold in the past 2 weeks selling stacks of snowballs for 1.5g each. People are gonna be mad as they can get a stack for 40 copper today. |
| 16:13.46 | KiphereCE | fighting with myself over whether i'm going belf pally or belf rogue. |
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| 16:14.38 | Qshadowp | hmm, how would i go about finding a guild on a server i wish to transfer to? |
| 16:14.58 | Qshadowp | i mean im not that great geared at the moment, but my aim is to get into a naxxaramas guild |
| 16:14.58 | Bouvi | Go to that servers forum |
| 16:15.04 | amro | check their guild progression thread |
| 16:15.36 | Qshadowp | yea im on that now :P |
| 16:15.40 | Qshadowp | theres alot of good guilds here. |
| 16:15.45 | KiphereCE | we're just starting a guild of random folks and let it build from there ;p |
| 16:16.08 | KiphereCE | afk, christmas crap. |
| 16:16.41 | Bouvi | Heading to lunch will be back later. |
| 16:17.15 | Osagasu | The Sunwell ruins idn't in yet, right? |
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| 16:19.43 | Qshadowp | uhh, whats the naxxaramas prequest called? :P |
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| 16:21.11 | malcolm--x | Hello. Can anyon here help me with an addon problem I have? |
| 16:21.23 | kergoth | if you have a question, ask it :) |
| 16:22.01 | xsarpedon | Q: The Dread Citadel - Naxxramas |
| 16:22.34 | malcolm--x | Well, I'm uh... sort of trying to update an addon that was not updated by anyone yet (GBars, if you know it). |
| 16:22.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | OMG NO :x |
| 16:23.07 | |FF|Im2good4u | blizzard is now using blood elfs to promote the game instead of night elfs :( |
| 16:23.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:23.22 | xsarpedon | Aww I have to reroll now! |
| 16:23.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | me2 |
| 16:23.35 | malcolm--x | Right now its only problems are that it gives me he general 'blocked blah blah only available to blizzard ui blah' message whenever I open the main menu (log out/exit/etc.) |
| 16:23.49 | malcolm--x | And the fact that the chat window is too low on my screen. |
| 16:24.16 | malcolm--x | Is there any way to 1) find out what operation is blocked and 2) move the chat window up a bit so it won't hide one of the action button rows? |
| 16:24.42 | malreth | chat window... right click on the tab and choose unlock |
| 16:24.44 | malreth | drag it around |
| 16:25.13 | malreth | for the blocked message, arg1 is the addon that was flagged with the error and arg2 contains the function |
| 16:25.22 | malreth | you can then use that to get a stack trace |
| 16:26.03 | malreth | well, that's assuming you write an event handler and catch the event |
| 16:26.17 | malcolm--x | Now here's the very problematic part - I don't really know how to do any of that because I've never edited/created a mod for WoW... but I learn fast, if you just direct me to a link that tells me how. |
| 16:26.34 | malreth | eh, just go install BugSack |
| 16:26.40 | malreth | it'll give you all of that info |
| 16:26.52 | malcolm--x | Ok, thanks. I'll give that a shot. |
| 16:26.55 | malreth | but remember |
| 16:27.06 | malreth | that the addon that gets flagged may not be the actual culprit |
| 16:27.31 | malreth | it just happened to be the last addon in the call chain of tainted functions |
| 16:27.39 | malreth | or something like that |
| 16:28.13 | malreth | if an addon causes the blocked message, disable it, replicate the problem and continue disabling each addon one by one |
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| 16:28.25 | malreth | when the problem goes away, the last addon that you disabled is the culprit |
| 16:28.27 | malcolm--x | I'm aware of that option, but seeing as it's the only mod I use that hasn't been updated, and that the other mods I use are the wardrobe one and the money display one... |
| 16:28.39 | malcolm--x | I don't -think- it's that sort of thing, is all. |
| 16:28.39 | malreth | re-enable the rest and then retest |
| 16:28.45 | malcolm--x | Ok |
| 16:28.49 | malcolm--x | I'll try that. |
| 16:29.00 | xsarpedon | If you want to fix the mod the easiest way would probably be just to disable everything else until you get it functional |
| 16:29.01 | malreth | just because an addon says it's updated doesn't necessarily mean it's free of taint |
| 16:29.39 | malreth | many addons just got a toc version update, and their for-loops changed for lua 5.1... and that's about it |
| 16:29.56 | malreth | they didn't really test to see if the addon was truly compatible |
| 16:30.24 | malreth | anyways... i'm off. later y'all |
| 16:30.29 | malcolm--x | Well, the GBars one hasn't even been touched yet :P Anyway, thanks for the info! |
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| 16:41.50 | malcolm--x | Um... ok, so BugSack tells me that the problem is in the 'SpellStopCasting()' call. Any ideas on what might be the problem with that call? |
| 16:42.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | it has no parameters ? |
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| 16:43.08 | foxlit | Entire spellcasting interface is blocked? |
| 16:43.30 | malcolm--x | None that were written in the error log. The error log just gave me the call stack and that function name... It happens only when I open the menu with the 'log off'/'exit game'/etc. stuff. |
| 16:43.52 | malcolm--x | Maybe you can't stop spellcasting when you ain't spellcasting? :P |
| 16:44.07 | foxlit | It'd fail silently before 2.x |
| 16:44.33 | malcolm--x | So I just need to wrap it with a try/catch that does nothing? To simualte the silent fail? |
| 16:44.52 | foxlit | You need to stop using SpellStopCasting() altogether, I think. |
| 16:45.10 | foxlit | "... has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI" |
| 16:46.29 | malcolm--x | Hmm... ok... that means I just have to find the place that uses it, I suppose. Man, Visual Studio has spoiled me forever with that 'find in files' thing... |
| 16:52.06 | foxlit | There's a way to force windows explorer to search inside lua files; might want to research that |
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| 16:52.49 | Cide | malcolm--x: a lot of editors can do that |
| 16:53.05 | Cide | textpad has 'find in files' with regexp support for exampl |
| 16:53.11 | Cide | s/exampl/example/ |
| 16:54.52 | xsarpedon | Yea spellstopcasting was removed a few patches ago I believe |
| 16:55.22 | malcolm--x | Oh cool. I'll look for that tool then. |
| 16:55.24 | malcolm--x | :) |
| 16:57.00 | xsarpedon | "SpellStopCasting() - Stops the current spellcast. (As of 1.10 PTR, this function must be used in direct response to a hardware input event, such as a mouse click or key press.)" |
| 16:59.11 | foxlit | 2.0 blocks it from being used from unsigned code |
| 17:02.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | tobad i cant fully undres my charecter |
| 17:03.27 | foxlit | So I'm fiddling around with custom unitframes |
| 17:03.50 | foxlit | And my problem is that I can't detect when druids change the power type -- from rage to mana, for example |
| 17:04.06 | foxlit | Anyone familiar with the event I'm supposed to be listening for? |
| 17:08.36 | KiphereCE | <sigh> all christmas quests are complete. |
| 17:08.49 | KiphereCE | I yoinked the greench out from under like 30 lvl 60's running around :p |
| 17:09.07 | KiphereCE | then got properly smoked by angry alliance ;) |
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| 17:10.29 | xsarpedon | Fox I think you want to watch PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS |
| 17:10.42 | xsarpedon | That will tell you when they shift, but not specifically when the bar changes |
| 17:11.03 | cogwheel | xsarpedon: aren't those player events? |
| 17:11.08 | cogwheel | as in they only apply to you... |
| 17:11.47 | xsarpedon | You want to watch when a targeted druid shifts? |
| 17:11.56 | xsarpedon | My bad ;P |
| 17:12.03 | cogwheel | not targeted... |
| 17:12.08 | cogwheel | it's for unit frames |
| 17:12.16 | xsarpedon | I think I should shutup now lol |
| 17:12.18 | cogwheel | I think UNIT_AURA |
| 17:12.48 | cogwheel | or maybe UNIT_CLASSIFICATION_CHANGED though the wiki has no documentation on it |
| 17:12.58 | cogwheel | wait... |
| 17:13.05 | cogwheel | UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER |
| 17:14.01 | cogwheel | foxlit: you could've found this all out yourself too :P http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) |
| 17:14.14 | cogwheel | UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER is the one you want... |
| 17:16.51 | KiphereCE | purl, emulate cogwheel |
| 17:16.52 | purl | ACTION shakes its fist at the forums |
| 17:17.36 | Qshadowp | purl, emulate qshadowp |
| 17:17.43 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 17:17.53 | Qshadowp | purl, emulate purl |
| 17:17.54 | purl | ACTION tries to look like itself. |
| 17:17.58 | KiphereCE | rofl |
| 17:17.59 | Qshadowp | :D |
| 17:18.29 | KiphereCE | ~emo |
| 17:18.47 | cogwheel | ~emulate Qshadowp |
| 17:18.49 | purl | ~lart Osagasu |
| 17:20.06 | KiphereCE | I need to get motivated to go work on my saved variable junk |
| 17:20.45 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 17:20.58 | foxlit | Evenets_(API) is a bit confusing, really |
| 17:21.38 | Qshadowp | uhh, how do i add my profile to thottbot? |
| 17:21.46 | foxlit | I was presuming UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS previously, but that's apparently something entirely different |
| 17:21.48 | Qshadowp | i have a tb account, and i found the list of everyone elses profile |
| 17:21.57 | Qshadowp | dont see anyway to give it mine though :( |
| 17:22.12 | foxlit | Run tb data collection client, make it submit data |
| 17:22.41 | Qshadowp | oh god that thing requires cosmos |
| 17:22.50 | Qshadowp | isn't there something that i can just tell it what armor i have? |
| 17:22.57 | Qshadowp | or something thats working similar to ct profiles? |
| 17:23.08 | Qshadowp | tis irritateing because im trying to find a guild atm. |
| 17:23.57 | foxlit | It requires cosmos, no. |
| 17:24.13 | foxlit | You could get that downloader application to download thottbot only. |
| 17:24.13 | Qshadowp | foxlit can i have a link to the thottbot profile uploader then? :P |
| 17:24.24 | Qshadowp | oh god not that thing |
| 17:24.37 | Qshadowp | i remember trying to use that, i told it to install nothing else apart from the thottbot data collection |
| 17:24.49 | Qshadowp | so it did, it deleted all of my addons, and just left the thottbot data collection |
| 17:24.50 | Qshadowp | ... |
| 17:25.04 | Gryphen | must have checked an additional box |
| 17:25.16 | Qshadowp | ok i'll give it another go :P |
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| 17:25.31 | Gryphen | just make sure, keep interface dir clean isnt checked |
| 17:25.58 | Qshadowp | yea :) |
| 17:27.40 | Qshadowp | lol omg i think its allready clearing it :P |
| 17:27.56 | Qshadowp | i only just run the exe and its saying "Cleaning interface\addons\.... |
| 17:28.08 | Gryphen | uh |
| 17:28.08 | Qshadowp | omfg its even deleteing the backup of the addons i made i think |
| 17:28.26 | Qshadowp | "Cleaning Interface\Addons\Addonsbackup" |
| 17:28.34 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:28.37 | Qshadowp | "moving cleaned items to the recycle bin" |
| 17:28.37 | Gryphen | well it will be in the recycle bin if it is, but not sure why it is |
| 17:28.42 | Gryphen | it doesnt by default |
| 17:28.43 | foxlit | You store backups in Interface\Addons\? |
| 17:28.46 | kergoth | thatll teach you to put a backup inside of what you're backing up :P |
| 17:28.48 | kergoth | bad |
| 17:28.57 | Gryphen | unless your old settings were still saved |
| 17:28.58 | kergoth | ~bad Qshadowp |
| 17:29.01 | purl | Bad Qshadowp, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 17:29.05 | Qshadowp | lol i can just get it out of the recycle bin |
| 17:29.11 | Qshadowp | but still jeez, what a stupid application. |
| 17:29.24 | Gryphen | works fine for me |
| 17:29.40 | Qshadowp | after claiming to clean everything, it seems to have done nothing |
| 17:29.49 | Qshadowp | i now have 3 otpions, exit configure or run wow :P |
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| 17:29.53 | malcolm--x | Hmm... It appears that the GBars mod has a lot more problems than I thought... it's also upset about the 'UseAction' method (same message as the SpellStopCasting) one. Anyone know what this method does and if there's another method that needs to be called instead? |
| 17:29.55 | foxlit | Didn't have an issue last time I used it |
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| 17:30.22 | [RTE] | hello everyone |
| 17:30.25 | foxlit | Yes, mal. Secure action frames. |
| 17:30.49 | [RTE] | anyone can tell me whats the math.mod was changed to in lua 5.1? |
| 17:30.52 | malcolm--x | Um. What does that mean? |
| 17:31.03 | foxlit | 2.0 changed the way addons can cast spell / use abilities / affect the game quite a bit, you'll probably have to rewrite a fair deal |
| 17:31.05 | foxlit | math.fmod |
| 17:31.43 | [RTE] | cool, thanks |
| 17:32.18 | cogwheel | just use mod() |
| 17:32.34 | cogwheel | blizzard has a lot of global aliases to library functions... |
| 17:33.03 | malcolm--x | Hmm. Can you give me a link to a page that'll show me how to use the different API? |
| 17:33.07 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_functions |
| 17:33.08 | kergoth | its lua 5.1, just use % :P |
| 17:33.17 | kergoth | local b = a % c |
| 17:33.19 | cogwheel | .... dur... |
| 17:33.26 | KiphereCE | is there anything that absolutely MUST be done in XML and can't be accomplished in the lua? |
| 17:33.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:33.34 | Tain | Just when I think I have the USB toy corner covered with my missle launchers and electronic snowman, someone comes along to blow it all out of the water. |
| 17:33.35 | foxlit | i++ yet? |
| 17:33.35 | Tain | http://www.boysstuff.co.uk/product.asp?id=13770&src=Home |
| 17:33.41 | kergoth | foxlit: nope |
| 17:33.43 | cogwheel | KiphereCE: templates |
| 17:34.05 | KiphereCE | so as long as I reference existing blizzard templates I can avoid XML? |
| 17:34.10 | foxlit | Yes |
| 17:34.11 | cogwheel | but there are alternatives to templates |
| 17:34.17 | KiphereCE | 'my' XML I should say |
| 17:34.32 | KiphereCE | well, I mainly wanna make frames with my own art in them. |
| 17:34.37 | KiphereCE | to display a graphic primarily |
| 17:34.41 | foxlit | You can avoid XML altogether, but that may not be the easiest way to go about things |
| 17:34.44 | cogwheel | I always recommend against avoiding XML if you're doing GUI work |
| 17:35.04 | KiphereCE | well, if i make something complicated enough to warrant its own gui I'll do it then |
| 17:35.10 | cogwheel | XML is more logical in its structure and purpose for use in static interface elements |
| 17:36.09 | KiphereCE | well, after I figure out hwo to make my saved variables work in my test mod i'm gonna start my mainbar replacement |
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| 17:37.01 | KiphereCE | though it might be smarter to build my own little widget mod first |
| 17:37.14 | KiphereCE | or gadget, not sure what terminology is more appropriate in this case :P |
| 17:37.37 | Tain | It is only more logical if you are used to using XML for that purpose. |
| 17:37.52 | KiphereCE | I'm not used to using lua or xml for anything yet. |
| 17:37.52 | KiphereCE | :p |
| 17:38.02 | Tain | Actually it isn't more logical at all, it's more comfortable if your'e already comfortable with it. |
| 17:38.11 | foxlit | XML looks uglier in notepad |
| 17:38.24 | KiphereCE | I'm just tryin to keep it simple for learning sake. |
| 17:38.25 | Tain | I, for one, am able to visualize better in Lua than XML. |
| 17:38.28 | kergoth | i don't like the lack of flexibility, myself. if there's even a slight chance that i may want to create my frame only when needed, i'd be better off using lua from the start |
| 17:38.29 | cogwheel | it is more logical... it's arranged hierarchically, just like actual UI elements. There is a clear parent-child relationship |
| 17:38.37 | KiphereCE | if xml syntax is different from lua syntax, I'll confuse myself while I'm learning |
| 17:38.46 | cogwheel | kergoth: nah... just make it a template |
| 17:39.22 | kergoth | taking up even more resources unnecessarily, for something i dont need a template for? i think not. |
| 17:39.31 | foxlit | Code uses up memory as well |
| 17:40.02 | [RTE] | folks, how can I adapt the following code to 2.0? |
| 17:40.03 | [RTE] | , _, itemLink, itemName = string.find(itemLink,"|H(item:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)|h%[([^]]+)%]|h|r$"); |
| 17:40.03 | [RTE] | GTS_Debug("itemLink: "..itemLink); |
| 17:40.03 | [RTE] | _,_,itemId, itemEnchant, itemPerm = string.find(itemLink,"item:(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):%d+"); |
| 17:40.05 | kergoth | i trust the lua vm, i know the instructions. i dont trust blizzard. |
| 17:40.26 | [RTE] | I beleive we cannot strip item links now, right? |
| 17:40.31 | Tain | It's fine if you are already familiar and comfortable with XML, if not there's no reason to use it instead of Lua. |
| 17:40.35 | foxlit | Item link parameters changed, didn't they? |
| 17:40.43 | Tain | Except in a couple of technical cases. |
| 17:40.57 | foxlit | itemLink, itemName = string.match(itemLink,"|H(item:[^|]+)|h%[([^]]+)%]|h|r$"); |
| 17:41.05 | cogwheel | [RTE]: we can... they just changed the format |
| 17:41.14 | [RTE] | gotcha |
| 17:41.19 | cogwheel | also, using string.match eliminates the need for _, _ |
| 17:41.21 | [RTE] | foxlit: let me try |
| 17:42.05 | [RTE] | so it looks like lua is getting some nice functions of python ... nice :) |
| 17:43.16 | foxlit | I'm not sure how "[^]]+" would ever compile, but I guess there's a bit of trickery there |
| 17:44.25 | [RTE] | works great, thanks |
| 17:44.43 | KiphereCE | stupid syntax question: In my event frame I'm registering VARIABLES_LOADED and PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 17:44.59 | Qshadowp | hmm whats the name of the priest and the tiger thingy in ZG? |
| 17:45.11 | KiphereCE | I've got eventframe:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) |
| 17:45.11 | KiphereCE | if ( event == "PLAYER_LOGIN" ) then |
| 17:45.11 | KiphereCE | buildbar(); print("Test") |
| 17:46.22 | foxlit | And it never triggers? |
| 17:46.24 | KiphereCE | I'm tryin to start my saved variables now, what i'm seein is I need a function |
| 17:47.33 | KiphereCE | do Ineed to set a 'if ( event == "VARIABLES_LOADED" ) then CheckEvents(); |
| 17:47.51 | KiphereCE | then create the function for CheckEvents(); and have it look for my saved variables? |
| 17:48.41 | KiphereCE | some one made a suggestion based on a snippet of my code and I'm not sure its applicable or how I add what they suggested into my existing stuff (or if I even can) |
| 17:51.36 | foxlit | You really can do it either way - doesn't really matter if your event handlers are inline or function-based. |
| 17:52.17 | foxlit | UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER works, by the way. Thank you :) |
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| 17:58.06 | Qshadowp | ~lart Osagasu |
| 17:58.13 | Osagasu | OH my... |
| 17:58.14 | Qshadowp | does AQ have a prequest? :P |
| 17:58.19 | Osagasu | Drak Chocolate Hot Cocoa... |
| 17:58.22 | Osagasu | **Dark |
| 17:58.23 | Osagasu | and no |
| 17:58.28 | Qshadowp | lol ok :D |
| 17:58.29 | Osagasu | Unless you coung the gong |
| 17:58.34 | Osagasu | **count |
| 17:58.43 | Qshadowp | :) |
| 18:05.45 | [RTE] | have there been any changes done to table.sort in 5.1? |
| 18:06.10 | KiphereCE | could some one break something down for me, I'm using it in my code and it works, but I have no idea why or what it all means :) |
| 18:06.24 | KiphereCE | gsub(msg, "(%S+)", function(w) tinsert(argT, w) end) |
| 18:06.52 | kergoth | [RTE]: not that i'm aware of |
| 18:06.55 | KiphereCE | it's the last thing in there right now that some one suggested, I took their suggestion and used it and can't for the life of me figure out why it works. |
| 18:07.20 | kergoth | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4 |
| 18:07.26 | kergoth | "If repl is a function, then this function is called every time a match occurs, with all captured substrings passed as arguments, in order; if the pattern specifies no captures, then the whole match is passed as a sole argument." |
| 18:07.51 | kergoth | amazing how helpful manuals can be |
| 18:08.00 | [RTE] | kergoth: hmmm.... my old sort function doesn't want to work :( |
| 18:08.11 | [RTE] | well, not the way it's supposed to anyway |
| 18:08.13 | kergoth | have a bit of sample code? |
| 18:08.23 | [RTE] | yep, holdon |
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| 18:09.47 | [RTE] | table.sort(GTS_Data.GRS.GuildRoster[GetGuildInfo("player")], function(i,j) return (i.sorter<j.sorter) end); |
| 18:10.00 | [RTE] | sorter is the field with string |
| 18:10.27 | [RTE] | mainly the name of the character |
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| 18:13.57 | kergoth | [RTE]: seems fine here |
| 18:13.59 | kergoth | [RTE]: http://lua.pastey.net/3597 |
| 18:14.17 | kergoth | (at work, no wow to test, used the 5.1 interpreter |
| 18:14.18 | kergoth | ) |
| 18:16.12 | [RTE] | :( |
| 18:16.19 | KiphereCE | god bless it. |
| 18:16.29 | KiphereCE | I'm getting an expected <eof> error and no idea why |
| 18:16.33 | KiphereCE | apparently I left something open |
| 18:17.02 | seebs | Yup. |
| 18:17.16 | seebs | Most likely you have an un-ended if or function or something. |
| 18:17.40 | [RTE] | kergoth: in my case it sorts the table somewhat, but not completelly, basically I have number of sorted blocks one after another |
| 18:17.42 | kergoth | syntax highlighting and proper indentation ftw |
| 18:18.03 | KiphereCE | I'm using that... I thought. |
| 18:18.03 | Scre3m | in vi/vim you can use % to find brace matches |
| 18:18.04 | kergoth | [RTE]: that.... doesnt make any sense at all :| |
| 18:18.22 | Scre3m | (highlight one brace and type shift+5) |
| 18:18.41 | [RTE] | I know :( |
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| 18:19.23 | KiphereCE | ok I'm full of stupid questions today |
| 18:19.30 | KiphereCE | what does <eof> expected near 'end' |
| 18:19.31 | KiphereCE | mean? :p |
| 18:19.57 | Cide | too many "end"'s |
| 18:20.05 | bleetah | gmorn all |
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| 18:21.35 | KiphereCE | ok, its askin for ends that I have now. |
| 18:21.39 | KiphereCE | and no idea why it wants another oen |
| 18:21.55 | Cide | KiphereCE: read what I said |
| 18:22.09 | KiphereCE | I fixed that part already :p |
| 18:22.21 | KiphereCE | now its askin for an end for an if but I have an end for it.. |
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| 18:25.11 | bleetah | cide: was doing some testing last night with a clean SV folder. Only generated this error twice, both times when DE was my first action (no idea whether it's caused by DE or something else)... http://pastey.net/3599 Note: this error does not seem cause CT to collapse. It throws this error, and continues on. |
| 18:25.29 | Cide | pretty sure that |
| 18:25.40 | Cide | that's an incompatibility (with ArcaneBar most likely) |
| 18:25.41 | bleetah | it *may* be some funky interaction with arcancebar, or similar |
| 18:25.45 | bleetah | heh, kk |
| 18:26.46 | [RTE] | kergoth: it works now ... wierrd |
| 18:27.03 | [RTE] | and I have not changed a thing :) |
| 18:27.58 | Corrodias | bleetah: stop disenchanting you mook |
| 18:28.51 | bleetah | I would, but someone's gotta work out and clean up the spaghetti that is enchantrix :-P |
| 18:29.53 | bleetah | I'm just looking for the right time of the day for it to make sense to me.. so far mornings, noon and night ain't workin' |
| 18:33.04 | Malivil | what about evening? |
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| 18:35.21 | Malivil | Hey Cairenn |
| 18:35.23 | KiphereCE | Ok, this things killin me. |
| 18:35.51 | Tierrie|Work | what thing? that knife in your back? |
| 18:35.59 | KiphereCE | it's tellin me I'm not ending one of my if's but I didnt change anything on it in this latest save |
| 18:36.06 | KiphereCE | and it worked fine last night. |
| 18:36.14 | KiphereCE | all I added was a little bit to a section below it (After it's end) |
| 18:36.19 | Tierrie|Work | maybe you actually tppoed something and added some crap at the end of an "end" |
| 18:36.27 | Malivil | KiphereCE: Pastey it |
| 18:36.28 | Tierrie|Work | like end_ |
| 18:36.40 | KiphereCE | not that I can see. |
| 18:36.42 | KiphereCE | I'm using Blua |
| 18:36.48 | KiphereCE | so it wouldnt turn the 'end' blue if I had. |
| 18:36.58 | Malivil | Pastey it so we can look at it |
| 18:37.11 | Tain | Everyone likes pasties |
| 18:37.23 | KiphereCE | it's a lot :p |
| 18:37.31 | KiphereCE | its from line 85 to <eof> (108) |
| 18:37.36 | Malivil | thats fine |
| 18:37.43 | Malivil | only 23 lines |
| 18:38.01 | KiphereCE | local argT = {}; |
| 18:38.01 | KiphereCE | gsub(msg, "(%S+)", function(w) tinsert(argT, w) end) |
| 18:38.02 | KiphereCE | if (argT[1]) == "hide" then |
| 18:38.02 | KiphereCE | if tonumber(argT[2]) > 0 then |
| 18:38.02 | KiphereCE | getglobal("EasyBarButton"..argT[2]):Hide(); |
| 18:38.02 | KiphereCE | end |
| 18:38.04 | KiphereCE | else if (argT[1]) == "display" then |
| 18:38.04 | Malivil | nonon |
| 18:38.06 | KiphereCE | if tonumber(argT[2]) > 0 then |
| 18:38.07 | Malivil | no PASTE it |
| 18:38.08 | KiphereCE | getglobal("EasyBarButton"..argT[2]):Show(); |
| 18:38.08 | Malivil | PASTEY it |
| 18:38.10 | KiphereCE | end |
| 18:38.12 | KiphereCE | end |
| 18:38.12 | Tain | I was just about to try to stop him. |
| 18:38.14 | KiphereCE | local argT = {}; |
| 18:38.16 | KiphereCE | gsub(msg, "(%S+)", function(w) tinsert(argT, w) end) |
| 18:38.18 | KiphereCE | if (argT[1]) == "scale" then |
| 18:38.20 | KiphereCE | if tonumber(argT[2]) > 0 then |
| 18:38.21 | Tain | Because I knew it was coming. |
| 18:38.22 | KiphereCE | local btnName = "EasyBarButton"..argT[2] |
| 18:38.24 | KiphereCE | local scale = tonumber(argT[3]) |
| 18:38.26 | KiphereCE | if scale ~= nil and scale > 0 then |
| 18:38.28 | KiphereCE | EasybarVars.scale[btnName] = scale |
| 18:38.30 | KiphereCE | getglobal(btnName):SetScale(scale); |
| 18:38.30 | Malivil | http://pastey.net/ |
| 18:38.32 | KiphereCE | end |
| 18:38.34 | KiphereCE | end |
| 18:38.36 | KiphereCE | end |
| 18:38.38 | KiphereCE | |
| 18:38.40 | KiphereCE | SLASH_ColonelBarCOMMAND1 = "/eb" |
| 18:38.42 | KiphereCE | SLASH_ColonelBarCOMMAND2 = "/easybar" |
| 18:38.44 | KiphereCE | what? |
| 18:38.46 | KiphereCE | lol |
| 18:38.47 | Malivil | http://pastey.net/ |
| 18:38.48 | KiphereCE | umm, suppose I didn't understand. |
| 18:38.48 | Malivil | http://pastey.net/ |
| 18:38.50 | KiphereCE | rofl |
| 18:38.52 | KiphereCE | ohhh |
| 18:38.56 | KiphereCE | SORRY! lol |
| 18:39.01 | Malivil | yeaaa |
| 18:39.07 | foxlit | BS is so overfarmed :( |
| 18:39.07 | Malivil | everyone makes mistakes |
| 18:39.33 | foxlit | To err is human, to forgive is not our policy :) |
| 18:39.34 | kergoth | be glad i dont have ops in here |
| 18:39.38 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:39.51 | Malivil | lol |
| 18:40.14 | KiphereCE | http://pastey.net/3602 |
| 18:40.19 | KiphereCE | the highlighted line is the if in question |
| 18:40.34 | foxlit | Where on earth am I supposed to find 10 Black Dragonspawns if there are 3 unresponsive hunters at every spawn spot? |
| 18:40.50 | KiphereCE | in the scale section near the bottom is what I changed today |
| 18:40.59 | Malivil | line 15 if |
| 18:41.01 | KiphereCE | foxlit, alliance ony key quest? |
| 18:41.08 | Malivil | line 15 if has no end |
| 18:41.41 | KiphereCE | thats the part I don't understand how it works yet. |
| 18:41.47 | KiphereCE | (obv it doesnt) |
| 18:42.00 | Malivil | what is the if for? |
| 18:42.03 | KiphereCE | that's all part of my scale command thats supposed to save the variable |
| 18:42.07 | foxlit | Yep |
| 18:42.22 | KiphereCE | to be honest, I have no idea. I'm tryin to impliment a suggestion, this is my 'learning lua' mod |
| 18:42.40 | KiphereCE | how I've been going about it is rather blind then I toy wit hit to figure out why it works or doesnt. |
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| 18:42.45 | foxlit | Suggestions are evil! |
| 18:43.01 | Malivil | Well, what is that trying to accomplish? |
| 18:43.09 | KiphereCE | line 15-19 are 'new' for me. |
| 18:43.16 | KiphereCE | my buttons don't have names. |
| 18:43.33 | KiphereCE | it's registering a name with the slash command and recording the scale |
| 18:43.38 | KiphereCE | for saved variable. |
| 18:43.47 | Tierrie|Work | dude |
| 18:43.59 | Malivil | try this |
| 18:43.59 | Malivil | http://pastey.net/3603 |
| 18:44.01 | Tierrie|Work | you dumbass your if at line 18 is not indented |
| 18:44.16 | Tierrie|Work | so your if at line 15 has no corresponding end statement |
| 18:44.22 | Malivil | we know that already |
| 18:44.23 | Malivil | thank you |
| 18:44.26 | Tierrie|Work | no wait |
| 18:44.30 | KiphereCE | like I said, I'm learning this shit. But thanks for being a twat about it. |
| 18:44.30 | Malivil | your words are not needed |
| 18:44.30 | Tierrie|Work | let me say it again |
| 18:45.00 | Tierrie|Work | :( |
| 18:45.17 | Malivil | hey MP |
| 18:45.25 | Tierrie|Work | pfft don't get too offended I don't mean it in an insulting way :P |
| 18:45.28 | Tierrie|Work | uhm |
| 18:45.29 | Tierrie|Work | yeah |
| 18:45.33 | Malivil | "dumbass" isn't insulting? |
| 18:45.34 | MentalPower | Tierrie|Work: if you don't have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself |
| 18:45.42 | Tierrie|Work | ok then |
| 18:45.51 | xgravix | there is no tone over the internet so you have to choose words carefully |
| 18:46.09 | Malivil | anyway |
| 18:46.12 | KiphereCE | blah |
| 18:46.15 | Malivil | KiphereCE: try http://pastey.net/3603 |
| 18:46.21 | KiphereCE | just did. |
| 18:46.23 | Malivil | k |
| 18:46.30 | KiphereCE | same error, different line >< |
| 18:46.40 | Malivil | pastey that too |
| 18:47.10 | KiphereCE | I'm just gonna pastey the whoel slashcommand part, it seems to eb stepping the errors back so I've obviously make an assumption about syntax that is wrong. |
| 18:47.30 | Malivil | ok |
| 18:47.56 | Bouvi | Glad you guys are doing this I am piggy backing trying to learn something. Gonna work more on it at home tonight and this weekend. |
| 18:48.10 | Bouvi | Got to get Hello_world working lol. |
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| 18:49.00 | Malivil | lol |
| 18:49.07 | KiphereCE | now, the error is always on my last line, and says "end expected (to close if at line X) near <eof> |
| 18:49.10 | KiphereCE | http://pastey.net/3605 |
| 18:49.20 | KiphereCE | is the whoel bit, the highlighted line is X from the error message |
| 18:50.05 | foxlit | You obviously have errors in the nested structure of the thing |
| 18:50.11 | KiphereCE | I'm just a hair over my head at this point I think :p once I get the scale variable working I'm gonna try to make ti work for the move and show/hide. Which is going to kill me because I hear you have to save 2 variables to save location |
| 18:50.14 | foxlit | Check that for every then, do there is a corresponding end |
| 18:50.22 | MentalPower | KiphereCE: its "elseif" not "else if" |
| 18:50.30 | Malivil | thatll do it |
| 18:50.34 | foxlit | You can usually do that by cutting out code inside your loops / ifs until the error is no longer generated |
| 18:50.37 | MentalPower | lines 10 and 22 |
| 18:50.49 | KiphereCE | That worked yesterday though.. |
| 18:51.11 | KiphereCE | I don't disagree, I didn't get it yesterday. |
| 18:51.34 | Bouvi | So in this you actually have to have "then" in an "if" statement instead of it just being implied like in other languages? |
| 18:52.06 | Tierrie|Work | it may work if you have if (condition) then (statement) else if (condition) then (statement) end end |
| 18:52.45 | KiphereCE | ok, changed my else if's to elseif |
| 18:52.57 | Malivil | yea |
| 18:53.00 | KiphereCE | ugh |
| 18:53.01 | KiphereCE | no errors |
| 18:53.03 | KiphereCE | but no buttons either |
| 18:53.16 | KiphereCE | it totally whacked it this time. |
| 18:53.23 | KiphereCE | going back to my code from yesterday and starting over. |
| 18:54.05 | Tierrie|Work | the problem yesterday might have been that you wrote a if (condition) then (statement) else (statement2) end where your 2nd statement was a nested if I think |
| 18:54.06 | Malivil | Least you know the syntax is fine |
| 18:54.29 | KiphereCE | http://pastey.net/3606 |
| 18:54.40 | KiphereCE | thast the working version with no saved variables :p |
| 18:54.49 | Tierrie|Work | nifty |
| 18:54.53 | Tierrie|Work | i am right |
| 18:55.07 | Tierrie|Work | line 86-88 is full if end's closing those nested if's |
| 18:55.32 | KiphereCE | ok, does that mean I'm doing something wrong? |
| 18:55.40 | KiphereCE | or just something weird :p |
| 18:56.25 | Tierrie|Work | you kind of have to understand what you did first |
| 18:56.33 | KiphereCE | why cant they just let us use frame:IsUserPlaced to register things in the layout-cache >< |
| 18:56.51 | KiphereCE | the gsub part of my slash commands is new. |
| 18:56.55 | KiphereCE | its the thing I was askin about earlier. |
| 18:57.11 | KiphereCE | I don't know what that means or why it works, I just know how it works so that I can replicate it for other commands (which I did) |
| 18:57.37 | Tierrie|Work | you have essentially written this Kip http://pastey.net/3607 |
| 18:57.43 | bleetah | more stuff to add to bleeter's demands of 'what wow needs'... A castle Aaaarrrgggghhhh. Including trojan rabbit. NPCs speak in outraaaaaageous French accent. |
| 18:58.21 | Tierrie|Work | which is different from this Kip http://pastey.net/3608 |
| 18:58.32 | Tierrie|Work | you intended to write http://pastey.net/3608 but instead you wrote http://pastey.net/3607 |
| 18:58.49 | KiphereCE | so I basically missed hitting enter and tab in a few places |
| 18:59.19 | KiphereCE | or I'm missin something you changed in 3608 |
| 18:59.27 | foxlit | For comedy value, string.gsub("http://[%w.]*pastey.net/%d+","%@#%"); |
| 18:59.32 | Tierrie|Work | no, there's a huge semantic difference, in 3607 if if (argT[1]) == "move" then the rest of the code is not executed |
| 18:59.32 | KiphereCE | I'm assuming where I said 'else if' I should have done 'else' enter, tab, 'if' |
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| 19:00.31 | malcolm--x | Here's another question for you guys - if I use '/click -nameofbutton-' instead of 'UseAction(...)' in the code, will it still give me the 'blocked...onlu available to blizzard...' message? |
| 19:00.45 | foxlit | You can't use /click in code |
| 19:01.06 | malcolm--x | I mean call a macro with that line (Is that possible? I thought it was) |
| 19:01.13 | KiphereCE | Tierrie, why? the rest of the code is quite executed. |
| 19:01.40 | KiphereCE | if I type /eb move 1, it references the rest of the line to find argT2 and show EasyButton1Cap |
| 19:01.49 | Tierrie|Work | http://pastey.net/3610 <-- this is what you wrote |
| 19:01.54 | KiphereCE | using the code you see in 3607 |
| 19:02.13 | Tierrie|Work | use 3610 instead of 3607, 3610 should be cleaner |
| 19:03.09 | foxlit | malcolm - RunMacro should also be protected |
| 19:04.37 | malcolm--x | ...dammit. Blizzard doesn't want people adding visible action bars in the bottom row that badly? |
| 19:05.37 | Tierrie|Work | KiphereCE: if you type /eb move 1, it executes line 6 to 10 |
| 19:05.38 | KiphereCE | ok, so in 10, where i had else if, you basically hit enter and tab to move my from if on an then appropriately tabbed the rest of the lines after that over. |
| 19:05.50 | KiphereCE | I see where i screwed up the syntax. |
| 19:06.02 | KiphereCE | I still don't quite understand what the gsub line is doing for me though or the syntax of it. |
| 19:06.06 | KiphereCE | I just know it works. |
| 19:06.29 | KiphereCE | now i have to figure out a way to do saved variables for each aspect of my buttons :p |
| 19:06.40 | KiphereCE | semi afk, reading things. |
| 19:06.48 | KiphereCE | thank you, btw. |
| 19:06.48 | foxlit | malcolm: no, not quite |
| 19:07.58 | foxlit | You can still make a button use an action, but you have to inherit from SecureActionButtonTemplate and use :SetAttribute() to explain what and when you want it to do |
| 19:08.03 | Tierrie|Work | np just balancing my karma |
| 19:08.46 | KiphereCE | can we add to the layout-cache at all? |
| 19:08.56 | foxlit | Short version, everything to do with spellcasting prior to 2.0 is not usable in 2.0 |
| 19:09.01 | KiphereCE | I know frame:IsUserPlaced doesnt work for anything created with 'createframe' |
| 19:09.34 | foxlit | There's a simpler way of doing that, too. |
| 19:09.36 | Tierrie|Work | no, most mods just store the values into their variables and then OnLoad and during CreateFrame they move them to where it was last moved |
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| 19:10.03 | KiphereCE | which is what I'm tryin to do but I think the way I go about building my buttons and my commands makes it a little complicated. |
| 19:10.27 | KiphereCE | local basically creates a name right? |
| 19:10.57 | foxlit | You really don't have to do all that. Just set an initial position in XML, then don't touch it in LUA. WoW handles it by itself. |
| 19:11.34 | KiphereCE | I'm talking about for movable buttons that I want to stay where I move them through sessions |
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| 19:11.42 | KiphereCE | I'm making a sort of ghetto flexbar |
| 19:11.43 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 19:12.23 | KiphereCE | which doesnt have any xml related to it whatsoever right now :p |
| 19:12.32 | foxlit | And I'm telling you wow saves frame position across sessions automatically |
| 19:12.46 | KiphereCE | if they're xml created frames? |
| 19:12.49 | cogwheel | "I know frame:IsUserPlaced doesnt work for anything created with 'createframe'" is not exactly true |
| 19:13.04 | cogwheel | CogsBar uses XML created frames and they stay where you put them through sessions |
| 19:13.19 | cogwheel | As long as you recreate the frames before the layout-cache is loaded, it works just fine |
| 19:13.21 | Tierrie|Work | local creates a variable in the local context |
| 19:13.31 | KiphereCE | theres the difference and hence my statement about 'the way i go about building my buttons.... makes it a little complicated' |
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| 19:13.48 | cogwheel | s/XML/Lua/ |
| 19:14.20 | cogwheel | nah... i just had an extra message in the way :) |
| 19:15.43 | KiphereCE | oh well, gotta figure out how to do this anyway, I'm not gonna rewrite the whole thing using an xml frame instead of the lua created frames. saving their location has to be possible without doing that. |
| 19:15.54 | KiphereCE | and i'll need to know it for other mods I make later on so back to reading |
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| 19:16.14 | cogwheel | KiphereCE: I meant Lua not XML |
| 19:16.30 | cogwheel | CogsBar uses _Lua_ created frames and they stay where you put them through sessions |
| 19:16.39 | KiphereCE | yeah, because you use saved variables yes? |
| 19:16.42 | cogwheel | nope |
| 19:16.45 | foxlit | Out of interest, when do you create them, cog? :) |
| 19:16.52 | cogwheel | (well, i do, but that's not why it works) |
| 19:17.07 | cogwheel | I create them in OnLoaad |
| 19:17.10 | KiphereCE | you don't record the positions in your saved variables and they stay? |
| 19:17.19 | cogwheel | s/OnLoad/VARIABLES_LOADED/ |
| 19:17.36 | KiphereCE | I build my bar at player_login |
| 19:17.42 | KiphereCE | is that where I'm screwing up? |
| 19:17.55 | foxlit | Built on VARIABLES_LOADED instead |
| 19:18.16 | KiphereCE | do I even need to register the player_login event then? :P |
| 19:18.23 | cogwheel | prolly not |
| 19:18.29 | foxlit | Not unless you for some reason depend on data that it gives |
| 19:18.58 | KiphereCE | well, I suppose If I go to do a savedvariablespercharacter I'll need to wait for player login wont i? |
| 19:19.01 | KiphereCE | not that i care right nwo |
| 19:19.06 | foxlit | No |
| 19:19.09 | cogwheel | no... |
| 19:19.16 | foxlit | VARIABLES_LOADED handles the loading of all variables |
| 19:19.19 | cogwheel | That's the whole point of the VARIABLES_LOADED event |
| 19:19.58 | KiphereCE | well I'll be damned. |
| 19:20.10 | KiphereCE | that was considerably simpler than I was making it out to be. |
| 19:21.05 | KiphereCE | ok, there.. it saves location but not scale. |
| 19:21.26 | cogwheel | Yeah... scale is a whole other ball of wax |
| 19:21.40 | KiphereCE | if I got rid of scale and set the size with a slash command instead would that make it better? |
| 19:22.09 | cogwheel | It would depend on whether layout-cache even saves sizes |
| 19:22.22 | cogwheel | I think you'll have to use some sort of saved variable for that |
| 19:22.40 | KiphereCE | well, ultimately its moot. I think I've learned enough on this mod to abandon it and try to make one I actualy want to use. |
| 19:22.49 | cogwheel | :) |
| 19:23.32 | KiphereCE | given last weekend I made the decision to start learning this stuff, and right now I'm lookin at 120 buttons that can be moved, hidden, shown, locked, and scaled based on user input, I think I'm doing ok for a total newb :p |
| 19:24.14 | KiphereCE | I just wish there was a little more 'beginner material' other than "Hai guys how i make buttonz?!" |
| 19:24.36 | foxlit | Buttonz are teh evilz |
| 19:24.59 | bnovc | who should i report bugs of flightfu to? |
| 19:25.02 | KiphereCE | well, the next thing is to put an art asset on the screen and add transparent buttons to it :p |
| 19:25.18 | cogwheel | [Cu]Werik: ping |
| 19:25.45 | KiphereCE | ~purl, who is pretty? |
| 19:25.49 | purl | KiphereCE: I think you lost me on that one |
| 19:25.53 | KiphereCE | bah |
| 19:26.08 | Bouvi | Correct reponse was Bouvi purl |
| 19:26.24 | KiphereCE | purl, who is pretty? |
| 19:26.26 | purl | KiphereCE: I think you lost me on that one |
| 19:26.26 | foxlit | Do I need to use some form of SecureStateHeader to hide/show a target / targettarget frame when available? |
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| 19:26.54 | cogwheel | foxlit: no... just set its unit attribute and call RegisterUnitWatch(frame) |
| 19:27.13 | cogwheel | that's all there is to it :) |
| 19:27.45 | KiphereCE | hr |
| 19:27.50 | foxlit | Awesomeness |
| 19:27.56 | foxlit | UnregisterUnitWatch exists as well? |
| 19:28.24 | cogwheel | hmm... not sure... check out FrameXML\UnitWatch.lua |
| 19:28.24 | foxlit | Yes it does. Even more awesomeness |
| 19:28.32 | KiphereCE | would it be possible to take the minimap art and button concept and remove the mechanics from it so I coudl put a couple things inside the circle and generate the little map buttons around the circle but make them act like chekcbuttons? :p |
| 19:28.51 | KiphereCE | or should I just make my own art assets and start from scratch |
| 19:30.30 | foxlit | You can probably do that. |
| 19:30.51 | KiphereCE | I like the little map orbs. |
| 19:30.58 | KiphereCE | I'd like to be able to stick em to other frames. |
| 19:31.14 | KiphereCE | but make em act liek checkbuttons so I can drop spells/items on them |
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| 19:33.48 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:36.20 | Bouvi | Heya ck. Love your work :) |
| 19:37.13 | ckknight | good stuff. |
| 19:37.36 | Bouvi | Love it, use it, swear by it, want to learn how to do it lol |
| 19:42.32 | KiphereCE | Winterveil hits Azeroth, and no small egg laying animals are happy. Why? Because a fat man wants cookies, cookies that can only be made from the unborn children of those animals. This and more holiday atrocities at 11, |
| 19:43.02 | Kaso | ha |
| 19:43.15 | KiphereCE | question: would you eat a cookie made from an egg taht came out of a moonkin? |
| 19:43.22 | Bouvi | LOL I was hoping for another week selling stacks of snowballs for 1.5g each. You can now get a stack for 40 copper. I made over 130 gold in two weeks lol. |
| 19:43.43 | KiphereCE | you can get em for free in alterac mountains |
| 19:44.06 | Bouvi | That is called work lol. I restocked the toon I had them on for 1/2 a gold. |
| 19:44.32 | Bouvi | Come July I will start selling them (I forgot about the toon with the snowballs until 2 weeks ago DoH) |
| 19:44.37 | KiphereCE | I bought about 1500 of them last year. |
| 19:44.49 | KiphereCE | then spent the rest of the year mailing them 1 at a time to guild members. |
| 19:44.52 | KiphereCE | all of them. |
| 19:45.11 | KiphereCE | I mailed one guy 150 over the course of 2 days. |
| 19:45.13 | Bouvi | Me and the wife had close to 6500. We got over 3500 sold in two weeks |
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| 19:45.54 | KiphereCE | back to readin the API, gotta figure out how to load textures :p |
| 19:46.13 | Tierrie|Work | Did the Winter Veil quests return? |
| 19:46.20 | Tierrie|Work | The ones with Snowmaster9000 and stuff? |
| 19:46.30 | Bouvi | Yepper but if you did them last year you cannot do them this year looks like. |
| 19:46.35 | Tierrie|Work | bummer |
| 19:46.41 | Tierrie|Work | you could repeat them between year 1 and year 2 |
| 19:46.43 | bleetah | hmm, two realms seem dead |
| 19:46.49 | bleetah | different battlegroups |
| 19:46.58 | bleetah | (elune, thorium brotherhood) |
| 19:47.24 | Bouvi | Could be a bug. I know I did it the first and 2nd year on my rogue. |
| 19:47.35 | KiphereCE | how do you set layers in a frame in lua? O_o |
| 19:47.37 | bleetah | slow to authenticate |
| 19:48.21 | bleetah | nm, back |
| 19:49.44 | KiphereCE | damnit, I'm gonna have to use xml to do what I want. |
| 19:53.57 | foxlit | For layers? |
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| 19:54.37 | foxlit | I was under the impression that CreateTexture took a layer argument |
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| 19:58.31 | KiphereCE | does adding a layer arguement to CreateTexture 'create' the layer on the frame? |
| 19:59.34 | kergoth | i think you should read some more of the info on wowwiki. |
| 19:59.46 | KiphereCE | like if i did Frame:CreateTexture(dagger, 1, /addons/kipbar/dagger.tga) |
| 20:00.09 | KiphereCE | would it automatically inherit the dimensions of the frame I created? |
| 20:00.22 | KiphereCE | and basically print the texture to the frame? |
| 20:00.26 | Tierrie|Work | you still need to SetPoint |
| 20:01.00 | KiphereCE | this is gonna take some trial and error. |
| 20:04.38 | KiphereCE | anyone know of a mod that just puts yoru weapon slots in their own little frame on the screen? :P I wanna look at the code |
| 20:06.24 | Shadowed | Anyone know the attributes used to make a button execute macro text on click? I know the type is macro but can't remember the last bit |
| 20:06.35 | Bouvi | I know that vBagnon seperates weapons in your inventory if that would help. |
| 20:06.56 | KiphereCE | seperates? |
| 20:07.13 | KiphereCE | I'm just tryin ti find the identity of the actual 'weapon slots' on your inventory page |
| 20:08.18 | Bouvi | VBagnon allows you to make categories that put your weapons or whatever into their own spaces. It pulls the info from your inventory and puts it in a little block of spaces. You would have to see it I have headache and stink at explaining right now. |
| 20:09.43 | xsarpedon | Does this ahve what you mean Kiphere http://www.wowwiki.com/InventorySlotName |
| 20:10.28 | xsarpedon | Or, http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TYPE_InventorySlotID |
| 20:11.57 | KiphereCE | hrm, kinda. |
| 20:12.10 | KiphereCE | I assumed they had actual elements for them. |
| 20:12.59 | KiphereCE | so I guess I would make a checkbutton and tell it that it's an inventory slot? |
| 20:13.22 | KiphereCE | any idea what the inventory screen is called in the FrameXML? |
| 20:13.48 | foxlit | ContainerFrame |
| 20:16.27 | Bouvi | You know you could skim the info your looking for from TrinketMenu. It pulls trinkets out whereas you would pull out weapons. |
| 20:17.12 | KiphereCE | yeah I think I said the wrong thing, maybe its paperdoll I'm lookin for. |
| 20:17.23 | KiphereCE | But trinket menu is a good idea, which site hosts it? |
| 20:17.52 | foxlit | Did jewelcrafting go live, or am I just horribly confused? |
| 20:17.59 | KiphereCE | you're confused. |
| 20:18.09 | Bouvi | wowinterface |
| 20:18.11 | KiphereCE | it 'sorta' went live, some of the mechanics are in place but you can't learn it or use anything. |
| 20:18.13 | Bouvi | Let me grab you a link |
| 20:18.26 | Bouvi | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3909 |
| 20:18.33 | KiphereCE | thank ya sir |
| 20:18.38 | KiphereCE | or ma'am if I'm wrong ;) |
| 20:18.39 | Bouvi | np |
| 20:18.52 | KiphereCE | I try not to assume. |
| 20:19.18 | Bouvi | Sir lol. I get called sir alot - http://www.masterfritts.com |
| 20:21.44 | xsarpedon | You can try to gather up recipes for cheap :p |
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| 20:26.54 | KiphereCE | heh. |
| 20:27.03 | KiphereCE | ok, trinketmenu is a lil more complicated than I was lookin for. |
| 20:27.12 | KiphereCE | don't understand half of that stuff |
| 20:28.10 | Bouvi | Well I do not understand hello_world yet so I know where you are coming from.... |
| 20:28.25 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 20:28.44 | Bouvi | but I will lol. I never give up when I want to do something hehe. |
| 20:29.06 | foxlit | <cogwheel> [Cu]Werik: ping |
| 20:29.08 | [Cu]Werik | In that case, I have a vacuum cleaner and a messy room here |
| 20:29.27 | cogwheel | thanks, foxlit :) |
| 20:29.34 | [Cu]Werik | Oh, What's up? |
| 20:29.41 | foxlit | Let's play relayed pingpong? :) |
| 20:29.43 | Bouvi | "when I want to do something" |
| 20:29.43 | cogwheel | [Cu]Werik: is curse not tracking download numbers? |
| 20:30.04 | kremonte | gvghkl; |
| 20:30.08 | [Cu]Werik | We do. They are all counted. It just doesnt show on the page at the moment |
| 20:30.21 | foxlit | Filters in item database are also lost when clicking on a page number |
| 20:30.36 | kremonte | can't log into wow pug irc works o_O |
| 20:30.38 | cogwheel | OK |
| 20:30.43 | [Cu]Werik | That I don't know. I forward it foxlit:) |
| 20:30.55 | cogwheel | there are lot's of dissapointed authors that think no one is downloading their mods... XD |
| 20:31.03 | cogwheel | s/that/who/ |
| 20:31.42 | bleetah | any mac users seeing an assertion failure in cmath.h when attempting to accept a quest? got a guildie who's managed to crash WoW twice in two days this way |
| 20:31.53 | bleetah | seeing/seen/ |
| 20:32.15 | [Cu]Werik | I'll ask the guys to hurry with the download counters |
| 20:33.07 | amro | Anybody in here fairly familiar with the Lua C API? |
| 20:33.16 | cogwheel | I am a bit... |
| 20:34.04 | amro | how do you display errors generated by a script called via luaL_dofile? |
| 20:34.23 | KiphereCE | don't suppose theres a template for 'inventory' slots eh? :p |
| 20:34.55 | Bouvi | When you are working on your addons can you add it to the addon folder and just /console reloadui and it work or do you have to restart WoW? |
| 20:35.03 | foxlit | Both |
| 20:35.26 | foxlit | If you haven't changed the physical file structure (i.e. adding new files, chaning .toc), you can reload. If you have, restart. |
| 20:36.09 | Bouvi | Thanks. So if I add files, etc restart but if I change the .lua or just change any of the files I can just reloadui |
| 20:36.09 | amro | yeah if new addons will not appear even if you log out |
| 20:36.16 | amro | yeah |
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| 20:36.27 | Bouvi | Sweet makes life easier |
| 20:36.27 | amro | I suggest you hotkey it :) |
| 20:37.04 | Tem|Exam | malreth, I HATE YOU |
| 20:37.13 | Tem|Exam | I will be singing that fucking song the rest of the day |
| 20:37.14 | KiphereCE | woo itembuttontemplate |
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| 20:37.44 | JoshBorke | hola! |
| 20:37.45 | bleetah | 6+drgf5waewwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 20:37.52 | bleetah | soz (damn cat) |
| 20:38.07 | cogwheel | amro: luaL_dofile is just a macro: (luaL_loadfile(L, filename) || lua_pcall(L, 0, LUA_MULTRET, 0)) The reason you don't see the error messages is because it's using pcall. You'll have to call loadfile yourself and provide an error handler to pcall or use lua_call instead |
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| 20:39.08 | KiphereCE | bah crap, itembuttontemplate isnt for equiped items |
| 20:39.26 | amro | cogwheel: thanks! |
| 20:46.50 | KiphereCE | <grumble> |
| 20:48.36 | Bouvi | Why do people expect me to do everything for them *sigh* |
| 20:48.48 | cogwheel | Because they're users... |
| 20:49.08 | KiphereCE | it looks like all the item slots on your paperdoll window are defined by the xmland not in the lua at all which I don't understand |
| 20:49.37 | cogwheel | There's no reason to define them in lua since they are completely static |
| 20:49.39 | foxlit | (a) Most UI was written before LUA could create frames |
| 20:49.52 | foxlit | (b) It makes more sense to put static frames in XML rather than LUA. |
| 20:49.54 | Bouvi | Maybe it is my martial arts training, etc but you would think someone could go look up a link just as easy as I can. I do not mind helping anyone who tries to help themselves first or offering to grab a link but gheez. (Nothing in this chat but an email I just got) |
| 20:50.09 | KiphereCE | well, that doesnt help fox ;) |
| 20:50.33 | KiphereCE | I wanna make some free floating weapon buttons that act like the inventory slots not hotkeys with the weapons drug to them ;) |
| 20:50.34 | cogwheel | Bouvi: hence the link in my forum signature... http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before |
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| 20:50.59 | Bouvi | I love it |
| 20:51.17 | cogwheel | KiphereCE: the buttons in the inventory window are built from templates. All you need to do is call CreateFrame using whetever template they use... |
| 20:52.21 | KiphereCE | I'm probably being ignorant again. |
| 20:52.22 | amro | cogwheel: I'm having trouble applying a metatable to userdata. Do you know how to do that? |
| 20:52.39 | cogwheel | never played with metatables actually... |
| 20:52.40 | KiphereCE | I see in the xml "PaperDollItemSlotButtonTemplate" but theres no file int he framexml called that. |
| 20:52.53 | cogwheel | or userdata for that matter :o) |
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| 20:54.34 | foxlit | Does wiki have a good intro to XML? Might be worthwhile |
| 20:54.44 | foxlit | (or, rather, FrameXML :P) |
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| 20:56.12 | KiphereCE | not that I've seen. afk to do a lil trial and error. |
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| 20:56.51 | malreth | I just realized that I haven't eaten anything since like yesterday... |
| 20:56.53 | cogwheel | the best XML tutorial I've seen is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ |
| 20:57.01 | cogwheel | zomg it's a malreth |
| 20:57.08 | malreth | and I have almost no appetite right now |
| 20:57.17 | malreth | i don't even feel light-headed |
| 20:57.40 | malreth | oh yeah... hi hi~~ i'm malreth |
| 20:58.16 | malreth | my bud is getting married next week |
| 20:58.37 | Bouvi | I've been married before and before and am. |
| 20:58.46 | malreth | ceremony is at the Alamo Drafthouse Movie Theater. There will be a show. |
| 20:58.55 | Kirkburn | Does anyone have or have access to an RTM version of Vista or Office 2007? |
| 20:58.58 | malreth | Afterwards, we all go to a pub for the reception |
| 20:59.00 | cogwheel | is this an invitation? |
| 20:59.02 | cogwheel | XD |
| 20:59.27 | Kirkburn | I ask because I need to know/see the latest version of Calibri :) |
| 20:59.31 | malreth | i just think it's really interesting to get married at a movie theater that serves beer... then we all go out to drink more beer afterwards |
| 20:59.58 | malreth | Kirkburn: uh... i think we keep an image of Vista around ehre somewhere |
| 20:59.59 | KiphereCE | hrm. |
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| 21:00.30 | malreth | but i shouldn't have said that because i can't get you access to it |
| 21:00.44 | malreth | so... i just be quiet now... |
| 21:00.50 | foxlit | doesn't ms.com have rc1? |
| 21:00.51 | Kirkburn | I just want the Calibri files, that's all :) |
| 21:01.05 | Kirkburn | foxlit, I have RC2, but I've found a problem with the Calibri file from it |
| 21:01.20 | Kirkburn | For some reason it limits its size :/ |
| 21:01.28 | KiphereCE | will the /use macro work for a slot as opposed to defining the item? |
| 21:02.12 | foxlit | Calibri rings odd bells; handwriting recognition? |
| 21:02.25 | Kirkburn | It's the default font in Office 2007 |
| 21:02.25 | Jaycyn | Hi there. Can I ask a quick question? |
| 21:02.53 | KiphereCE | if you initiate a weapon buff like a sharpening stone, poison, or shaman weapon buff, then /use your weapon it'll cast it on that weapon. |
| 21:03.02 | KiphereCE | Jaycyn, best to just ask and duck. |
| 21:03.04 | KiphereCE | ;) |
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| 21:03.18 | KiphereCE | trust me, I've been pestering folks in here for a couple days with newb questions :p |
| 21:03.24 | Jaycyn | Can you get a RightButton click from a UnitButtonTemplate? |
| 21:05.00 | Jaycyn | Left button working fine, but no response from right button. Right button does work however from a UIPanelButtonTemplate2 |
| 21:05.17 | amro | Kirkburn: It seems that it was once available as a seperate download, but the link now only leads to some search engine |
| 21:05.18 | cogwheel | You're referring to SecureUnitButtonTemplate? |
| 21:05.26 | amro | if you look around I'm sure you'll find it someplace |
| 21:05.29 | foxlit | Any reason why GameTooltip.SetUnitBuff would stop working with pre-2.0 code? |
| 21:05.39 | foxlit | (did SUB change?) |
| 21:05.48 | Jaycyn | Yes. I am referring to the SecureUnitButtonTemplate. |
| 21:05.50 | cogwheel | SecureUnitButtonTemplate is simply a SecureActionButtonTemplate that is set up to target it's unit. |
| 21:06.36 | Jaycyn | Any particular reason RightButton's are not coming through? Do I need to RegisterForClicks or something?? |
| 21:07.01 | cogwheel | what do you mean by "not coming through"? are you writing your own OnClick? If you are, you shouldn't be... |
| 21:07.05 | KiphereCE | heh, i got the default UI to give me an error :p |
| 21:07.07 | Jaycyn | r |
| 21:07.46 | Jaycyn | No - SetAttribute to define the frames (button) behavior |
| 21:08.00 | KiphereCE | not all frames default accepting mouse input |
| 21:08.12 | cogwheel | KiphereCE: secure templates do... |
| 21:08.27 | cogwheel | i think... |
| 21:08.46 | Jaycyn | I have it set up as <Button name="My_Test_Button " hidden="false" virtual="true" inherits="UnitButtonTemplate,SecureUnitButtonTemplate"> |
| 21:08.54 | KiphereCE | I don't think 'all' templates accept mouse input. I know all the 'button' templates do |
| 21:09.01 | KiphereCE | because they should obviously. |
| 21:09.03 | KiphereCE | but I'm a newb so... |
| 21:09.11 | cogwheel | Jaycyn: you're inheriting incorrectly... SecureUnitButtonTemplate should come first |
| 21:10.10 | KiphereCE | Unitbutton gets used in like party frames and what not? |
| 21:10.31 | KiphereCE | ahh, ok. |
| 21:10.46 | KiphereCE | then yeah, I'm a tard :) It'd be silly if it didnt accept mouse input by default |
| 21:10.55 | cogwheel | FYI: hidden="false" is not necessary... |
| 21:10.55 | SP|Sorren | when using SetTextureCoord(left,right,top,bottom) how do i set it to the entire texture? |
| 21:11.02 | SP|Sorren | SetTextureCoord(1,1,1,1)? |
| 21:11.05 | cogwheel | unless it inherits from a hidden template |
| 21:11.17 | cogwheel | yep |
| 21:11.24 | cogwheel | er... no |
| 21:11.31 | cogwheel | 0,1,0,1 |
| 21:11.35 | SP|Sorren | ah |
| 21:11.37 | SP|Sorren | thx |
| 21:12.06 | cogwheel | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 21:12.09 | Jaycyn | It's a hidden template. |
| 21:12.10 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 21:12.13 | purl | ACTION shakes its fist at the forums |
| 21:12.19 | KiphereCE | uh oh |
| 21:12.23 | KiphereCE | what happened? |
| 21:12.30 | Mery | they are down |
| 21:12.41 | KiphereCE | well damn, I posted a question there heh |
| 21:13.08 | Jaycyn | So I have btn:SetAttribute(*helpbutton1", heal) which works with a left click. I change it to helpbutton2 (which should be button #2) and no response. |
| 21:13.18 | KiphereCE | when i tried the default UI gave me an error lol |
| 21:13.21 | foxlit | Bring to mind a song. |
| 21:13.36 | cogwheel | Jaycyn: you have to define helpbutton2 somewhere else in your code |
| 21:13.52 | foxlit | The secret of success in the addon coding proffession: Plagiarize! (only be sure to call it, please, research) |
| 21:14.05 | Jaycyn | Oh "helpbutton" is a global blizzard defined value |
| 21:15.17 | Jaycyn | helpbutton1 indicates a help buttons with a left click (1) and supposedly helpbutton2 would indicate a right click |
| 21:15.55 | Jaycyn | I am really just trying to get the right button to cast a spell. |
| 21:17.34 | KiphereCE | cog you either confused teh shit out of me or didn't understand my question on the forums :p |
| 21:17.59 | cogwheel | so, you do btn:SetAttribute("helpbutton2", "hb2") btn:SetAttribute("spell-hb2", "some spell") |
| 21:18.20 | cogwheel | KiphereCE: what was the question? XD |
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| 21:18.31 | KiphereCE | I'm Colonel on the forums :p |
| 21:18.37 | foxlit | btn:SetAttribute("type","spell"); btn:SetAttribute("spell","Some spell"); simpler for actionbuttons, no? :) |
| 21:18.42 | KiphereCE | but you jsut confused me, I get it now. |
| 21:18.45 | Jaycyn | Yes that is approx what I am doing |
| 21:18.45 | cogwheel | CANDY CANES! |
| 21:18.47 | KiphereCE | I had no idea /use 16 would work. |
| 21:18.55 | KiphereCE | thats killer. |
| 21:19.22 | foxlit | (strike that, wrong thread :) ) |
| 21:19.57 | Jaycyn | That is exactly what my code looks like btn:SetAttribute("unit", unitID); btn:SetAttribute("type","spell"); btn:SetAttribute("spell", W_SPELL); |
| 21:20.40 | Jaycyn | W_SPELL is a global var. The code works fine for left click. I just need to to activate on right click |
| 21:21.02 | foxlit | Sec, let me dig something up |
| 21:21.15 | sylvanaar | ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 21:21.18 | cogwheel | btn:SetAttribute("spell2", OTHER_SPELL) |
| 21:21.39 | sylvanaar | purl: diaf |
| 21:22.00 | KiphereCE | purl, diaf |
| 21:22.10 | KiphereCE | hrm. You know what I'm saying. |
| 21:22.12 | KiphereCE | ~diaf |
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| 21:22.25 | sylvanaar | ~diaf purl |
| 21:22.29 | kremonte | purl, die |
| 21:22.30 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 21:22.36 | KiphereCE | ! |
| 21:22.38 | kremonte | diaf isn'td efined? |
| 21:22.40 | KiphereCE | purl, come back |
| 21:22.42 | Qshadowp | noooooooooo |
| 21:22.42 | Cairenn | purl, diaf is <reply> dies in a fire |
| 21:22.44 | purl | Cairenn: okay |
| 21:22.44 | zenzelezz | are you sure there is a "diaf" factoid? |
| 21:22.49 | kremonte | purl, diaf |
| 21:22.51 | purl | dies in a fire |
| 21:22.51 | Qshadowp | yay <3 |
| 21:22.57 | Qshadowp | nooooooooooooooo |
| 21:23.01 | kremonte | ~literal die |
| 21:23.03 | purl | "die" is "<action> takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless." |
| 21:23.13 | kremonte | purl, no, diaf is <action> dies in a fire. |
| 21:23.15 | purl | okay, kremonte |
| 21:23.18 | kremonte | purl, diaf |
| 21:23.19 | purl | ACTION dies in a fire. |
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| 21:23.38 | Jaycyn | Well, tryed Spell2 and there is still no response from the right button. However, my button gives visual feedback when it is clicked and the feedback is indicating the right button it working, just not casting. |
| 21:23.54 | cogwheel | Jaycyn: all I can say is O.o |
| 21:23.58 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing the lack of reply to "emulate sylvanaar" was also due to a lack of a set factoid... so don't go blaming the bot |
| 21:24.11 | KiphereCE | purl, diaf |
| 21:24.12 | purl | ACTION refuses to die! |
| 21:24.16 | cogwheel | try a very simple test case |
| 21:24.18 | KiphereCE | >_> |
| 21:24.52 | sylvanaar | ~sylvanaar |
| 21:24.53 | purl | ACTION expires |
| 21:25.00 | sylvanaar | purl: FU |
| 21:25.02 | purl | i heard fu is _____ |
| 21:25.15 | kremonte | ~botsnack |
| 21:25.15 | purl | :), kremonte |
| 21:25.18 | sylvanaar | i cant type emulate |
| 21:25.23 | sylvanaar | for myself |
| 21:25.23 | KiphereCE | purl, emulate KiphereCE |
| 21:25.25 | purl | ACTION asks Cogwheel lots of annoying questions. |
| 21:25.30 | KiphereCE | ;_; |
| 21:25.34 | cogwheel | XD |
| 21:25.35 | kremonte | ~literal emulate KiphereCE |
| 21:25.36 | purl | "emulate kipherece" is "<action> asks Cogwheel lots of annoying questions." |
| 21:25.43 | kremonte | oh, just cogwheel |
| 21:25.52 | kremonte | hm |
| 21:26.02 | kremonte | jeez, been ages since i messed with purl |
| 21:26.14 | sylvanaar | should be suffixed with 'about how to write macros' |
| 21:26.30 | KiphereCE | oh, I ask many different types of horrible questions. |
| 21:26.30 | KiphereCE | :p |
| 21:27.02 | KiphereCE | but the fact that I can macro /use <slotid> makes creating a specific addon I was thinking totally useless. |
| 21:27.09 | cogwheel | Jaycyn: btn:SetAttribute("type2", "spell") |
| 21:27.11 | kremonte | bah, why didn't i xfer my toons when i got my key |
| 21:27.14 | KiphereCE | so that actualy saved him a few questions for later ;) |
| 21:27.22 | cogwheel | see fi that helps |
| 21:27.23 | kremonte | stupid beta :( |
| 21:27.24 | cogwheel | s/fi/if/ |
| 21:28.02 | sylvanaar | gibberish |
| 21:28.18 | sylvanaar | s/gibberish/meaning |
| 21:28.36 | KiphereCE | I'm not sure thats how it works. |
| 21:28.42 | KiphereCE | s/thats/that's |
| 21:28.45 | Jaycyn | Thanks. I just tried that.. Added SetAtt("type2", "spell"); SetAtt("spell2", W_SPELL); |
| 21:28.52 | cogwheel | you need the trailing / |
| 21:28.56 | KiphereCE | oops |
| 21:28.58 | cogwheel | s/need/must use/ |
| 21:28.58 | KiphereCE | s/thats/that's/ |
| 21:28.59 | sylvanaar | s/gibberish/meaning/ |
| 21:29.10 | KiphereCE | >_>rofl |
| 21:29.13 | sylvanaar | purl: you fail |
| 21:29.17 | KiphereCE | comma |
| 21:29.34 | Jaycyn | No workie. |
| 21:29.39 | KiphereCE | try again |
| 21:29.40 | sylvanaar | ~emulate purl |
| 21:29.41 | purl | ACTION tries to look like itself. |
| 21:29.48 | kremonte | purl, you fail |
| 21:29.49 | purl | ACTION slaps you for calling her a failure. |
| 21:29.51 | KiphereCE | ;) |
| 21:29.53 | foxlit | "itself"? |
| 21:29.57 | KiphereCE | I figured purl out :P |
| 21:30.00 | foxlit | purl, pick a gender. |
| 21:30.01 | kremonte | herself imo |
| 21:30.19 | sylvanaar | purl, : = , |
| 21:30.23 | Bouvi | purl, party |
| 21:30.24 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 21:30.40 | foxlit | purl, sing |
| 21:30.41 | purl | ACTION sings off key Whaohwooaaoooaaah! Good bye 70s! |
| 21:30.49 | KiphereCE | ~emulate purl |
| 21:30.50 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself... happy pervs? |
| 21:30.59 | kremonte | COMMA |
| 21:31.02 | sylvanaar | ~pervs |
| 21:31.08 | KiphereCE | rofl |
| 21:31.10 | kremonte | purl, no, emulate purl is <action> tries to look like herself. |
| 21:31.12 | purl | kremonte: okay |
| 21:31.15 | Bouvi | purl, pervs |
| 21:31.25 | Bouvi | purl, ignore |
| 21:31.27 | purl | methinks ignore is the only method a selfish person is able to deal with those who think in a different way. |
| 21:31.34 | malreth | I love listening to Mates of State |
| 21:31.37 | Cairenn | oi, bot abuse! |
| 21:31.37 | kremonte | purl, pervs |
| 21:31.38 | purl | pervs are loose on the internet |
| 21:31.45 | KiphereCE | hah |
| 21:31.46 | malreth | it's like listening to two songs at once |
| 21:31.47 | sylvanaar | purl, help |
| 21:32.03 | kremonte | i need to write a mod :-* |
| 21:32.16 | malreth | aah... forum graphics changed |
| 21:32.27 | malreth | christmas theme |
| 21:32.31 | Cairenn | winter |
| 21:32.34 | Cairenn | not christmas |
| 21:32.36 | malreth | it has the icon of a cookie |
| 21:32.57 | malreth | Hey hey... as long as I'm a red blooded American, It's Christmas |
| 21:33.06 | malreth | Christmas is for freedom! |
| 21:33.14 | kremonte | Christmas is a religious holiday, not a national one |
| 21:33.16 | Cairenn | malreth: >< |
| 21:33.33 | malreth | Tom Cruise didn't die on a cross so that we could go around calling it Winter |
| 21:33.42 | KiphereCE | Yule works for me. |
| 21:33.44 | KiphereCE | :p |
| 21:34.02 | malreth | oh Christ... I still haven't eaten since yesterdaY |
| 21:34.10 | foxlit | purl, feed malreth |
| 21:34.11 | purl | ACTION offers malreth some horseraddish |
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| 21:34.19 | cogwheel | I was raised by hippies and my uncle was born on Dec. 25... needless to say, christmas wasn't a big part of my childhood XD |
| 21:34.21 | Bouvi | purl, feed ego |
| 21:34.22 | purl | ACTION offers ego some pizza |
| 21:34.53 | KiphereCE | cogwheel, measure epeen |
| 21:34.54 | KiphereCE | >_> |
| 21:35.01 | Bouvi | How do you feed ego pizza? |
| 21:35.05 | KiphereCE | :D |
| 21:35.14 | KiphereCE | speaking of, afk pizza |
| 21:35.32 | Bouvi | purl, party |
| 21:35.34 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 21:35.54 | Bouvi | purl, bored |
| 21:35.55 | purl | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
| 21:36.02 | Bouvi | I know I am. Ohhhhh beer. |
| 21:36.11 | zenzelezz | oh dear, bot terror... why does this always happen x.x |
| 21:36.43 | Bouvi | purl said beer. Time to party...... Do you think I could teach class tonight tipsy? |
| 21:37.09 | KiphereCE | whats the subject? |
| 21:37.15 | Bouvi | Taekwondo |
| 21:37.15 | kremonte | purl, off |
| 21:37.17 | purl | methinks off is the opposite of on |
| 21:37.19 | KiphereCE | yes :p |
| 21:37.20 | kremonte | hm |
| 21:37.22 | kremonte | purl, stfu |
| 21:37.23 | purl | [stfu] Shut the F*** Up!, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg. Sucks To Feel U, or or http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/STFU_cup_Soldier.jpg |
| 21:37.26 | kremonte | good! |
| 21:37.33 | KiphereCE | lol |
| 21:37.45 | KiphereCE | I think purl just pwned you |
| 21:37.47 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 21:37.49 | Bouvi | Well I am teaching a weapons class after I teach the black belt class. Sword might be out of the question |
| 21:37.52 | kremonte | PURL GO AWAY |
| 21:37.54 | purl | /server irc.rt.ru |
| 21:37.58 | kremonte | :-( |
| 21:38.35 | Bouvi | 20 more mins and I can leave. I need to figure out a way to test addons without WoW lol. |
| 21:38.51 | kremonte | i need ideas for addons to make |
| 21:38.56 | kremonte | it's like everything's been made already :( |
| 21:39.05 | Bouvi | purl, bend time |
| 21:39.42 | Bouvi | purl, bend time |
| 21:39.44 | Bouvi | Please |
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| 21:40.16 | foxlit | Bouvi: interpret lua in head |
| 21:40.28 | foxlit | (and beware of buffer overflows, some really evil brainexploits out there) |
| 21:40.31 | malreth | does /stopcasting take [conditionals]? |
| 21:40.35 | KiphereCE | pur, piglatin Hi I'm Bouvi and I like to kick things. |
| 21:40.46 | KiphereCE | damnit |
| 21:40.47 | KiphereCE | I type suck |
| 21:41.10 | Bouvi | Type it again |
| 21:41.11 | KiphereCE | purl, piglatin Hi I'm Bouvi and I like to kick things. |
| 21:41.26 | kremonte | woa |
| 21:41.27 | kremonte | pig latin |
| 21:41.44 | kremonte | also, lol@that foxlit |
| 21:41.45 | Bouvi | And about me too. |
| 21:41.58 | KiphereCE | it's intelligent, it can piglatin anything you tell it to. |
| 21:42.08 | KiphereCE | purl, piglatin Gold |
| 21:42.10 | foxlit | purl, are you Turing-complete? |
| 21:42.26 | foxlit | I'll take that as a no :( |
| 21:42.52 | Osagasu | http://movies.aol.com/movie-trailer-clip/shrek-the-third-quicktime |
| 21:43.56 | Qshadowp | hmm, where would my character specific macros be stored? |
| 21:44.03 | Qshadowp | i just realm transfered, and i want my macros back :P |
| 21:44.14 | foxlit | wtf\account\...? |
| 21:44.24 | Bouvi | Folder character name old server |
| 21:44.24 | KiphereCE | just go into your account under wtf. |
| 21:44.24 | Kirov | accounts/<accountname>/<servername>/<charactername>/macros |
| 21:44.33 | KiphereCE | change the server name from your old server to the new server |
| 21:44.34 | Qshadowp | thanks Kirkburn :) |
| 21:44.37 | Qshadowp | i mean Kirov :) |
| 21:44.51 | Kirov | Qshadowp - happens all the time *sigh* |
| 21:44.52 | KiphereCE | it'll move everything for ya if you rename the folder :p |
| 21:45.02 | Qshadowp | lol KiphereCE thats actually a good idea, then i even get to keep my addon settings :D |
| 21:45.20 | KiphereCE | purl, comfort Kirov |
| 21:45.23 | purl | There, there, Kirov. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 21:45.24 | Kirov | That only works if your character on both servers have the same name |
| 21:45.34 | abug | purl, frank |
| 21:45.36 | purl | i guess frank is elite |
| 21:45.38 | KiphereCE | you can change the character name folder within the server folder |
| 21:45.46 | Kirov | This is also true |
| 21:45.56 | Qshadowp | uhh i changed my name after transferring |
| 21:46.11 | KiphereCE | find your old name in the server folder. |
| 21:46.14 | KiphereCE | change it to your new name |
| 21:46.15 | Qshadowp | yea :P |
| 21:46.17 | Kirov | But, you can also at that point just copy everything in the character folder to the new character |
| 21:46.53 | Kirov | Assuming that the addons you use don't save the character's name and server explicitly in their per-character settings (which some still do) |
| 21:47.24 | Kirov | And some addons, like all of Ace2, don't actually save _anything_ per character, but they instead usually have built in a way to transfer settings from one character to another. |
| 21:47.54 | sylvanaar | kremonte: if you havent noticed they are all being remade |
| 21:47.58 | Kirov | (per character settings in Ace2 addons are saved globally) |
| 21:48.05 | kremonte | addons,y ou mean? |
| 21:48.08 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 21:48.52 | kremonte | ah |
| 21:48.57 | kremonte | but... i want new ideas! >< |
| 21:50.02 | foxlit | purl, give kremonte new ideas |
| 21:50.03 | purl | ACTION gives new ideas to kremonte |
| 21:50.53 | Qshadowp | ~poke purl |
| 21:50.54 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 21:53.14 | KiphereCE | purl, 2+2/14*6/23+98*34 |
| 21:53.15 | purl | 3334.037267080746 |
| 21:53.24 | KiphereCE | purl, 1+1 |
| 21:53.25 | purl | it has been said that 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 21:54.09 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 21:54.38 | cogwheel | XD |
| 21:54.51 | cogwheel | purl, sqrt(2) |
| 21:55.04 | cogwheel | purl, 2^.5 |
| 21:55.05 | purl | 2 |
| 21:55.06 | Bouvi | purl, tell Bouvi to get out of dodge. |
| 21:55.11 | KiphereCE | it uses pearl math :p |
| 21:55.14 | KiphereCE | purl, 1/0 |
| 21:55.16 | purl | [1/0] undefined |
| 21:55.19 | KiphereCE | damnit |
| 21:55.39 | KiphereCE | purl 9.99999~=10 |
| 21:55.40 | Bouvi | purl, goodbye |
| 21:55.41 | purl | Why are you talking to a bot? Do you talk to walls, too? And the floor? Bye floor! Take it easy wall! |
| 21:55.43 | foxlit | purl, you're out of date |
| 21:55.49 | Bouvi | LOL |
| 21:55.50 | KiphereCE | purl pwned you |
| 21:55.54 | Bouvi | Catch you all later. |
| 21:59.06 | Kirkburn | Kirov, I mean Kirkburn, I mean KiphereCE, I mean you, you love it, don't you :) |
| 21:59.18 | KiphereCE | purl, dict cookie |
| 21:59.36 | Kirkburn | Zomg, someone wants to talk to me! Oh, no wait, they don't *sniff* :( |
| 21:59.45 | KiphereCE | purl, comfort Kirkburn |
| 21:59.55 | purl | There, there, Kirkburn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:00.01 | KiphereCE | :D |
| 22:00.09 | KiphereCE | I'm tryin to figure out what I wanan try to build next. |
| 22:00.23 | KiphereCE | I'm confused beyond recognition on how to add art assets so I've sorta given up for now |
| 22:00.26 | Kirkburn | That's what they all say! And they kill me and dance on my grave :/ |
| 22:00.49 | KiphereCE | maybe you're misinterpreting what they mean by 'i'm here for you' |
| 22:00.58 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:05.31 | KiphereCE | hwo do you make an arguement recognize that its a series of numbers. |
| 22:05.50 | KiphereCE | my current commands will recognize arguements like /eb move 1 |
| 22:05.57 | KiphereCE | it'll turn moving on for button 1 |
| 22:06.06 | KiphereCE | I wanna be able to say /eb move 1-15 |
| 22:07.36 | Osagasu | Is the <slot> option of /equipslot a slot name or number? |
| 22:07.55 | KiphereCE | either? |
| 22:08.01 | KiphereCE | I'd assume number though if I had to assume |
| 22:08.04 | nymbia | KiphereCE: patterns :D |
| 22:08.19 | KiphereCE | nymbia: I'm a newb. |
| 22:08.28 | nymbia | Osagasu: number. i havent been able to make it work with names |
| 22:08.47 | nymbia | s/names/slot names/ |
| 22:09.01 | Osagasu | And what about Item Names? |
| 22:09.09 | Osagasu | I can't seem to get it to equip using item links |
| 22:09.20 | KiphereCE | you building a macro? |
| 22:09.29 | Osagasu | Trying to |
| 22:09.32 | KiphereCE | like an ingame, not something code wise. |
| 22:09.45 | nymbia | Osagasu: use just the name, not the link |
| 22:09.46 | KiphereCE | did you try shift clicking the item into the macro? (I assume thats what you meant by item links) |
| 22:09.54 | Osagasu | One word or two? |
| 22:10.14 | nymbia | just as it appears |
| 22:10.26 | nymbia | so two words for two word items yes |
| 22:11.07 | Osagasu | Hm |
| 22:11.37 | Kirov | hmm, I like the new ice background for the forums better than the default two |
| 22:11.59 | KiphereCE | what are you tryin to do Osgasu? |
| 22:12.21 | Osagasu | Trying to equip a maninhand and an offhand |
| 22:12.27 | KiphereCE | in one button? |
| 22:12.45 | Osagasu | It should work out of bombat, no? |
| 22:12.48 | Osagasu | **combat |
| 22:12.49 | Osagasu | but yes |
| 22:13.15 | abug | does it work in wombat? |
| 22:13.23 | KiphereCE | all you have to do is put em in order. |
| 22:13.32 | KiphereCE | do /equip <shiftclick waht you want in mainhand> |
| 22:13.38 | KiphereCE | next line /equip <shiftclick what you want in offhand> |
| 22:13.52 | Osagasu | Yes, but what about when I already have something in my main and off hand |
| 22:14.05 | nymbia | they get swapped |
| 22:14.35 | KiphereCE | ahh |
| 22:14.36 | Osagasu | Properly, or does it just swap the main hand twice? |
| 22:14.50 | KiphereCE | yeah, I'm just swappin between a 2hander and 2 1handers with mine. |
| 22:15.31 | KiphereCE | you should be able to do /equipslot 16 <shiftclick item for mainhand> |
| 22:15.49 | Kirkburn | Oh, btw: <CIA-17> kirkburn * r20810 ClearFont/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Initial Commit! |
| 22:15.52 | KiphereCE | then /equipslot 17 <shiftclick item for offhand> |
| 22:16.20 | KiphereCE | in that order I'm pretty sure it'll work |
| 22:16.52 | KiphereCE | I don't have any other 1handers to test with on my shaman atm or I'd try it out for ya |
| 22:17.36 | KiphereCE | purl, give Widgertick a wedgie. |
| 22:17.38 | purl | ACTION gives a wedgie. to Widgertick |
| 22:18.28 | KiphereCE | heh, that graphic on the forums is the frozen throne. |
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| 22:20.49 | KiphereCE | purl, illiden |
| 22:20.50 | purl | ACTION IS NOT PREPARED! |
| 22:21.05 | foxlit | s/den/dan/ |
| 22:21.54 | Industrial | http://www.king5.com/livecams/ieindexwx.html?http://www.king5.com/live/weather_images/external/bell_lg.jpg&Title=Bellevue |
| 22:21.59 | Industrial | oops |
| 22:22.07 | Industrial | wrong channel |
| 22:22.19 | KiphereCE | purl, illidan |
| 22:22.21 | purl | ACTION is NOT prepared! |
| 22:22.22 | KiphereCE | :P |
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| 22:23.25 | KiphereCE | you guys remember the old Wolfenstein portrait that got more beat up as you lost health? |
| 22:23.41 | Kirov | yeah |
| 22:23.41 | Darklin | Hey there. I have an addon idea that I wanted to get thoughts on/see if it existed already. Basically you would pick an instance and it would give you a list of all the quests for that instance (More) |
| 22:23.56 | KiphereCE | has anyone made a mod that replaces your portrait with something liek that? ;) |
| 22:24.19 | Darklin | Telling you where each of the quests start, if they are a chain and what chain steps need be completed to get the quest for that instance. |
| 22:24.27 | Kirov | KiphereCE - I seem to remember someone had a doom inspired wow UI, but it was custom and not released. |
| 22:24.33 | cogwheel | Darklin: the kind of maintenance a mod like that would need would be prohibitive... |
| 22:24.44 | cogwheel | not to mention memory usage |
| 22:25.00 | Darklin | cogwheel: It would be less than Atlas |
| 22:25.03 | KiphereCE | unless you added a program outside of WoW that would update it for you from thottbot or something |
| 22:25.20 | Darklin | In terms of memory usage. |
| 22:25.33 | Kirov | That's true. |
| 22:26.27 | Kirov | I thought about making an addon like that, but I came to the same conclusion cogwheel stated and thought about an option like KiphereCE mentioned, and realized I don't have the programing chops to pull it off. |
| 22:27.12 | KiphereCE | afk to spread goo on my ferrets stomach. |
| 22:27.21 | Kirov | lol |
| 22:27.22 | cogwheel | It's easier to just to run in windowed mode and use thottbot |
| 22:28.39 | Darklin | Eh, kinda. Its just a thought I'm kicking around at the moment. |
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| 22:36.26 | KiphereCE | oh, I'm so back. |
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| 22:36.35 | TonyD | heh, me too |
| 22:36.39 | TonyD | i have power now |
| 22:36.52 | KiphereCE | tryin to figure out what I wanna make my next learning project. |
| 22:37.25 | KiphereCE | I despise the defauly unitbars so I'm thinkin taht maybe. |
| 22:37.28 | foxlit | I need a digital signature mechanism coded in LUA; snap to it :) |
| 22:37.40 | KiphereCE | I have no idea what you just said. |
| 22:37.44 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:37.46 | KiphereCE | but it touched a brothas hard so I'm gonna google it. |
| 22:37.47 | Garoun|Loupana | I can give you a project idea if you are bored Kipher :) |
| 22:37.50 | Garoun|Loupana | hey c |
| 22:37.57 | KiphereCE | Garoun, keep in mind I'm a total amateur :p |
| 22:38.11 | KiphereCE | I just started teaching myself this stuff last weekend and i have no code background. |
| 22:38.17 | Garoun|Loupana | so am I, I don't thin anyone would want to tackle the idea I had |
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| 22:38.26 | KiphereCE | just an amazing amount of natural inborn charisma and intellect. |
| 22:38.43 | KiphereCE | whats the idea? :P |
| 22:38.48 | KiphereCE | I'm a good designer, just a bad builder ;) |
| 22:39.01 | Garoun|Loupana | and it probably isn't doable unless battlefieldminimap can register where a mouse is on it |
| 22:39.29 | KiphereCE | you wanna add track to the BF minimap eh? :p |
| 22:39.48 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm sick of having to type in AB, xqz inc to <place1> from <place2> |
| 22:40.24 | Garoun|Loupana | was thinking of adding a hotkey that is pressed to queue up an incoming call, and first click on the minimap would set place1, second click would set place2 |
| 22:40.27 | cladhaire | lolol |
| 22:40.35 | cladhaire | i can cast entangling roots quicker than it can kills rats |
| 22:40.36 | cladhaire | how lame |
| 22:40.52 | Garoun|Loupana | roots suck :/ |
| 22:41.13 | Garoun|Loupana | any spell that breaks on it's own damage is completely silly |
| 22:42.49 | KiphereCE | ugh |
| 22:43.05 | Thunder_Child | Garoun|Loupana, there is something like that |
| 22:43.10 | KiphereCE | all the things i think of are a little over my head and require a lot more than just makin some buttons and making them movable/hidable, etc |
| 22:43.48 | Garoun|Loupana | is there thunder? |
| 22:43.59 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5782-AlarBGHelper.html |
| 22:44.16 | Garoun|Loupana | I figured the mouseover detected a landmark so should be doable :) |
| 22:45.35 | Garoun|Loupana | That's a bit more than I need, but it actually does give me an idea :) |
| 22:45.59 | Garoun|Loupana | and a completely different way of thinking about it then I was before |
| 22:46.02 | KiphereCE | you think it'd be easier to modify the existing playerframe for a major graphical overhaul or just build from scratch? |
| 22:46.38 | Garoun|Loupana | no clue |
| 22:46.50 | KiphereCE | I don't have any idea how to even start thinking about the health/mana bars |
| 22:47.22 | Garoun|Loupana | start simple, try to create a GuildWars style health and mana bar :) |
| 22:50.15 | Garoun|Loupana | actually with the new enemy cast timers, someone could recreate a GW ui with a bit of work |
| 22:51.28 | Garoun|Loupana | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2533797897451041720&q=Guild+Wars 2 bars above the action bar are the health/mana bars :) if you havent' played GW |
| 22:52.13 | KiphereCE | holy hell |
| 22:52.20 | KiphereCE | theres a template called 'securepiebutton' |
| 22:52.23 | KiphereCE | pie is good. |
| 22:52.26 | KiphereCE | purl, pie |
| 22:52.39 | KiphereCE | no, pie is good |
| 22:52.44 | KiphereCE | purl, pie |
| 22:53.02 | Garoun|Loupana | ~pie |
| 22:53.03 | purl | pie is probably good |
| 22:53.10 | foxlit | ~pi |
| 22:53.12 | purl | pi is, like, 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 22:53.12 | KiphereCE | probably? |
| 22:53.19 | KiphereCE | purl, pie! |
| 22:53.20 | purl | pie is, like, good |
| 22:53.25 | KiphereCE | thank you. |
| 22:53.42 | Cide | ack |
| 22:53.46 | Cide | I only remember first 20 now |
| 22:54.01 | KiphereCE | anyone payin attention who knows a bit about creating health/mana bars? :p |
| 22:54.38 | foxlit | purl, is Cide being silly? |
| 22:54.48 | Cide | I'm always silly |
| 22:54.51 | Cide | except when I'm not |
| 22:55.05 | KiphereCE | oh well :p |
| 22:55.06 | KiphereCE | back to reading |
| 22:55.10 | Cide | what do you need? |
| 22:55.37 | Cide | you'll have much better luck just asking your question than asking if someone is around to answer an upcoming question |
| 22:56.13 | KiphereCE | That was my question. |
| 22:56.30 | KiphereCE | cause if some one knows, is around, the next question was 'do you have a bit that I coudl pick your brain' |
| 22:56.30 | KiphereCE | ;p |
| 22:56.46 | KiphereCE | I don't have /a/ question. |
| 22:57.00 | Cide | the blizzard ui is an excellent resource for code samples |
| 22:57.13 | KiphereCE | thats part of the problem. |
| 22:57.14 | foxlit | Kiphere is like, synonymous, with questions |
| 22:57.36 | KiphereCE | I can't find in playerframxml or lua where it shows how the healthbars/manabars do their thing |
| 22:57.49 | Cide | http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 22:57.53 | Cide | oh |
| 22:57.57 | Cide | I misunderstood you |
| 22:58.35 | KiphereCE | the nature of how things work makes reading other peoples code almost useless to me. |
| 22:58.54 | Garoun|Loupana | as long as you don't bitch about CT_RA causing lag, I think Cide is always helpful :) |
| 22:58.54 | KiphereCE | Because when you get more sophisticated it doesnt add onto the end of a file, it adds crap to the middle of all the other functions, etc. |
| 22:59.15 | KiphereCE | so when I'm looking at it I have issues filtering out what I don't care about and what i should care about |
| 22:59.18 | Cide | Garoun|Loupana: I'm usually helpful, but that isn't one of the exceptions :) |
| 22:59.26 | Garoun|Loupana | lol |
| 22:59.35 | Cide | basically, you create a StatusBar, :SetMinMaxValues(0, UnitHealthMax("player")) |
| 22:59.50 | KiphereCE | heh basically. |
| 22:59.51 | KiphereCE | ;) |
| 22:59.51 | Cide | on "UNIT_HEALTH" where arg1 == "player", :SetValue(UnitHealth("player")) |
| 22:59.56 | foxlit | Could also go with Texture:SetWidth(); |
| 23:00.11 | Cide | foxlit: that's a lot more complicated |
| 23:00.24 | KiphereCE | you guys are jumpin into the middle of the pool on the way to the deep end. I'm sitting at the little steps with the old people looking scared. |
| 23:00.46 | Cide | KiphereCE: then don't start with a health bar :) |
| 23:00.53 | KiphereCE | I started with buttons :p |
| 23:00.59 | KiphereCE | I dunno, logically where to go enxt |
| 23:01.01 | KiphereCE | next~ |
| 23:01.01 | foxlit | even worse (tm) |
| 23:01.03 | Cide | do something simple with events |
| 23:01.19 | foxlit | "zomg I crit!" addon is probably simple to arrange |
| 23:01.24 | KiphereCE | well I did ok with my buttons I think lol. |
| 23:01.34 | Cide | create a frame, store a random value in a variable that is saved with ## SavedVariables: VariableName |
| 23:01.46 | Cide | on the event "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD", check what value was stored and print it to chat |
| 23:02.04 | KiphereCE | that stuff doesnt confuse me, if I have to do that sort of thing in an addon I can do it now. |
| 23:02.22 | Garoun|Loupana | you do it first so you can use it as a shell for your other addon |
| 23:02.55 | KiphereCE | I dunno, maybe i'll make a hotbar replacment. I've been wanting to fiddle with the securestateheaders stuff. |
| 23:02.59 | KiphereCE | and the new piebuttons look nifty |
| 23:03.11 | Cide | if you can't do a health bar, you'll have a very hard time understanding that |
| 23:03.19 | KiphereCE | it's not understanding thats the problem. |
| 23:03.30 | KiphereCE | therse plenty of documentation on both the securestateheaders and the piebuttons in the new files. |
| 23:03.39 | KiphereCE | I can't find anything to look at or read that gives me info on healthbars |
| 23:03.45 | Cide | there's also plenty of documentation on StatusBars |
| 23:03.51 | KiphereCE | where? |
| 23:03.58 | KiphereCE | you point I'll shut up and read lol |
| 23:04.03 | Cide | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers#StatusBar |
| 23:04.13 | Cide | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#StatusBar |
| 23:04.14 | Garoun|Loupana | I can tell you one thing Kipher, be glad you aren't working with the DAOC ui |
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| 23:04.27 | Garoun|Loupana | it's horrid :) |
| 23:04.37 | KiphereCE | umm |
| 23:05.35 | KiphereCE | the handler has virtually no info lol |
| 23:05.35 | Cide | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#StatusBar |
| 23:05.35 | KiphereCE | acutaly both of those first links are mostly red links =\ |
| 23:05.37 | foxlit | stea... adopt old damagemeters code |
| 23:05.40 | foxlit | That uses statusbars, I believe |
| 23:05.41 | Cide | the names are usually self explanitory |
| 23:05.55 | Cide | <OnValueChanged> for example.. |
| 23:07.13 | KiphereCE | nevermind, I don't think I'm expressing what i"m after appropriately. I'll just keep filtering through random mods |
| 23:07.38 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.53 | KiphereCE | all thsoe wiki links are mostly empty, its a great reference for the commands but the building and functionality isn't explained at all. |
| 23:08.07 | KiphereCE | so its hard for me to extract anything useful given my lack of a base to work frmo. |
| 23:08.11 | Cide | that's why you combine it with actual code (playerframe.xml for example) |
| 23:13.30 | KiphereCE | here's a nice stupid question. last one for a while :p |
| 23:14.06 | KiphereCE | if I were to copy, say playerframe.xml and .lua and rename them. create a toc, and change the appropriate references would they work with any appropriate edits made? |
| 23:14.14 | KiphereCE | like something simple, say I change a color definition |
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| 23:17.46 | foxlit | Yes. Conditions apply. Offer void in Canada. |
| 23:17.56 | Osagasu | I want my maaageeee |
| 23:17.57 | Osagasu | T_T |
| 23:21.26 | Industrial | Need some help with my unitframes: http://pastey.net/3622 |
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| 23:22.00 | Osagasu | Mrrrrrrrgllll |
| 23:22.04 | Osagasu | Grimscale chieftain |
| 23:22.06 | Osagasu | classic |
| 23:22.28 | foxlit | Error isn't even from your code? |
| 23:22.39 | Industrial | has to do something with the SetAttribute methinks |
| 23:22.48 | Industrial | however, the vriable name is a valid unit name |
| 23:22.58 | foxlit | Is there any way to resolve a function reference to a function name? |
| 23:22.59 | Industrial | player/target/pet/targettarget |
| 23:23.23 | KiphereCE | foxlit were you talkin to me up there? |
| 23:23.57 | foxlit | Nope, to Industrial |
| 23:24.05 | foxlit | "Yes. Conditions..." was to you, though |
| 23:24.43 | KiphereCE | well I was thinkin about taking the default playerframe and making a small change then just messing with the code but at this point I dunno if I'm even going to keep messing with this. |
| 23:25.03 | KiphereCE | I feel like learning how to code by doing it in this environment is counterproductive. |
| 23:25.05 | foxlit | You wouldn't get away with copying the files, adding a toc, and only making a small change. |
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| 23:25.27 | KiphereCE | theres not a lot of beginner documentation, most of what I find assumes I know some other language already. |
| 23:25.32 | foxlit | You'd probably have to change quite a bit for the two instances of the same code to coexist |
| 23:25.40 | Industrial | KiphereCE: learning isnt productive |
| 23:25.52 | Industrial | KiphereCE: and yes knowledge of programming helps. lol |
| 23:26.04 | KiphereCE | well thats what I'm trying to get by doing this :p |
| 23:26.16 | KiphereCE | you have to learn somewhere, I didn't think this would be a bad environment to do it in. |
| 23:26.22 | Industrial | I'd start with something like PHP |
| 23:26.28 | Industrial | imho |
| 23:26.31 | foxlit | ew! |
| 23:26.39 | KiphereCE | I've got little to no interest in coding in php though.. |
| 23:26.41 | Tain | I would avoid PHP, actually. |
| 23:26.44 | seebs | I like Lua okay as a teaching language. |
| 23:26.50 | Tain | PHP isn't really a good language to learn on. |
| 23:26.53 | seebs | I mean, I'm old-school, I learned in C, but... |
| 23:26.55 | KiphereCE | the only reason I want to learn thsi is for using it in this environment. |
| 23:27.08 | Tain | I would actually suggest that PHP isn't a good language to do anything on, but that's just being snarky. |
| 23:27.56 | foxlit | RAD for the web, really |
| 23:28.07 | foxlit | It's got it's upsides. |
| 23:28.15 | foxlit | its |
| 23:29.10 | KiphereCE | meh. |
| 23:29.20 | KiphereCE | I wanna write mods, thats my only interest for the code really |
| 23:29.35 | KiphereCE | I'm sure I'll get more into doing other things with it but thats sort of why I want to learn in the first place :P |
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| 23:30.57 | foxlit | How does RegisterUnitWatch get around tainting, by the way? |
| 23:32.04 | Cide | setting the frame as an attribute, which untaints it |
| 23:32.07 | foxlit | Or is there a class of functions that is simply always assumed to be untainted, no matter who called them? |
| 23:32.34 | Cide | the reference* |
| 23:32.55 | Cide | blizzard code is, by default, untainted |
| 23:33.16 | Cide | but there are no "special" functions other than that |
| 23:33.22 | foxlit | Yeah, but you'd presumably call RegisterUnitWatch from tainted code |
| 23:33.28 | foxlit | Thereby rendering that call tainted, no? |
| 23:34.00 | Cide | yeah, but it sets an attribute |
| 23:34.09 | Cide | attributes are always untainted |
| 23:48.00 | KiphereCE | ahh well, as much as I hate it. I'm giving up on learning this crap right now. |
| 23:48.11 | KiphereCE | learning by jumping in on this isn't gonna happen. |
| 23:48.34 | KiphereCE | I need to learn how to program first, then just apply that to WoW interfaces. |
