| 00:00.35 | Guillotine | you can use auto-unstuck instead of hearth to port |
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| 00:14.47 | ckknight | Dolby-wowi, there should be some way to delete a feature (in my portal) when inside of it. |
| 00:15.01 | Kirkburn | I wonder what the stats on this should have been? http://www.geocities.com/kompostfordoom/Images/tribalfeathers.jpg |
| 00:19.23 | Guillotine | haha |
| 00:19.25 | Guillotine | thats easy to do |
| 00:19.34 | Guillotine | just a spoofed link, not real |
| 00:19.36 | Guillotine | probably kremonte's |
| 00:19.46 | Guillotine | he was having fun with the war feathers |
| 00:19.49 | bleetah | how do I get the devtools window back if I've managed to (stupidly, I admit) drag it offscreen? |
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| 00:23.49 | Tierrie|Work | I'd love a nice rat for a mouse, optimal mouse my ass, bionic is the way to go |
| 00:24.11 | ckknight | squee |
| 00:25.02 | seebs | I want to scroll an EditBox's text to the left. Is there a way to do this in WoW's API? |
| 00:25.21 | Thunder_Child | really, whoever came up with mouse should be shot |
| 00:25.40 | Tierrie|Work | what would you rather have? rollerball? |
| 00:25.55 | Tierrie|Work | or the finger, they should have a tablet with your finger as a pointer |
| 00:26.00 | seebs | I actually use a trackball as my primary mousy thing. I love them way better. |
| 00:26.11 | Neuro_Medivh | I use a neural interface |
| 00:26.17 | seebs | I also have a tablet, and I would use it for everything except that WoW's mouselook can't work with a tablet ever. |
| 00:27.14 | seebs | BTW, any Lua people: I am very frustrated by the difficulty of remembering when to do "x + 0" to turn x from a string-containing-numbers into a numeric value. |
| 00:27.28 | Tierrie|Work | write a atoi() function |
| 00:27.31 | seebs | Egh. |
| 00:27.37 | Tierrie|Work | function atoi(num) { return num + 0 } |
| 00:27.43 | seebs | function atoi(x) return x+0 end |
| 00:27.44 | seebs | Heh. |
| 00:27.45 | ckknight | tonumber(x) |
| 00:27.47 | seebs | Yeah, but it's still ugly. |
| 00:28.01 | ckknight | just use tonumber(x). |
| 00:28.03 | Tierrie|Work | is tonumber() an actual LUA function? |
| 00:28.04 | ckknight | x+0 is a hack |
| 00:28.05 | Tierrie|Work | whoops |
| 00:28.07 | ckknight | yes, tierrie |
| 00:28.16 | seebs | Anyway, any hints on the edit box thing? I have this elaborate thing where I have a sequenced pair of OnUpdate scripts I need to use on a field. |
| 00:28.20 | Tierrie|Work | shows how much i know about lua |
| 00:28.20 | seebs | It sucks horribly. |
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| 00:29.02 | seebs | Yeah, tonumber's good. I go fix. |
| 00:31.02 | seebs | Is it safe to "tonumber(x)" where x may be either an actual number, or a string containing only digits? |
| 00:31.34 | VoidRaider | yeah it should be ok |
| 00:32.51 | seebs | Finally found it in the lua 5.1 manual; it takes either a number or a string that converts to a number. |
| 00:33.41 | VoidRaider | :) |
| 00:33.43 | seebs | Bleh. I am hating edit boxes. |
| 00:34.02 | seebs | I had a chunk of code that did field:SetFocus(); field:HighlightText(); |
| 00:34.13 | seebs | Nice simple way to give the user a chance to "just start typing" and have the field work. |
| 00:34.39 | kaiden | Guillotine, kremonte found a way to spoof item id's to give them other stats? :( that's kinda sad blizzard would let that be in, i loved the fact that when you saw most links it was legit and you knew if it was orange and you'd never seen it, just dont bother clicking on it anyways |
| 00:34.45 | seebs | Unfortunately, the edit box is in a list. And the list is updated by scrolling, and to make a long story short, the edit boxes all end up scrolled all the way to the right instead of to the left. |
| 00:35.01 | Guillotine | kaiden: no, I told kremonte about that one :) he was just having fun doing it |
| 00:35.07 | Guillotine | kremonte figured out how to crash everyone who clicks on a link |
| 00:35.11 | seebs | The only way I have found to scroll them back to the left is to do a one-time OnUpdate function which grabs the leftmost character, replaces it with a space and itself, then deletes the space. |
| 00:35.35 | seebs | This works, except that among other things, it kills my highlight. |
| 00:35.38 | Kirkburn | Lol, this is awesome - you need a powerful PC to run it properly though :P http://chris.pirillo.com/video/christmas/ |
| 00:35.42 | kaiden | hrm i wonder if the wowi team knows that none of their images are loading |
| 00:35.53 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm is anyone using ludwig anymore, or is there a new/better item database? |
| 00:36.14 | Kirkburn | kaiden, what images? |
| 00:36.18 | seebs | But in fact, it gets even worse. I wanted to have a save button become active OnTextChanged. |
| 00:36.22 | Tierrie|Work | you mean the wonderfin \n bug? |
| 00:36.51 | seebs | So now I have the OnUpdate function that does the scroll-left thing, and then sets OnUpdate to ANOTHER function, which sets OnTextChanged, and then turns itself off. |
| 00:36.56 | Kirkburn | kaiden, not seeing any problem here |
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| 00:37.22 | seebs | BTW, someone suggested putting \10 in messages. That disconnects. I'm using \09 now. |
| 00:37.23 | Garoun|Loupana | speak of the devil |
| 00:37.37 | Tuller | what? |
| 00:37.43 | Tuller | as in, I'm assuming you ment me? |
| 00:37.48 | Garoun|Loupana | of course ;) |
| 00:38.04 | Garoun|Loupana | is ludwig still being updated or do you suggest using a different item database? |
| 00:38.16 | Tuller | ludwig was updated to 2.0 on patch day |
| 00:38.25 | kaiden | Kirkburn, really? i'm not able to load any images at all from wowi |
| 00:38.34 | Kirkburn | Weird |
| 00:38.37 | Guillotine | seebs: sorry that was me. guess \9 is what was used :) |
| 00:38.39 | Garoun|Loupana | k, didn't see it on the svn was why I asked |
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| 00:38.49 | seebs | Hey, at least it made for a funny changelog entry. |
| 00:38.52 | Tuller | its not an ace addon :P |
| 00:38.55 | seebs | "Replace \10 with \09 to reduce disconnects." |
| 00:39.03 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, well yeah, that could explain it... |
| 00:39.09 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh, go me |
| 00:40.10 | Garoun|Loupana | don't mind me tuller, I just got home from work 30min ago so I'm still lacking in mental power |
| 00:40.31 | kaiden | sadly i'm still at work :( well kinda :) i worked from home today hehe |
| 00:40.59 | Garoun|Loupana | I did that on sunday, but I prefer to not think about it :P |
| 00:41.43 | Garoun|Loupana | did find one major bug with Trinity bars I need to post.. god that was a nightmare |
| 00:42.02 | kaiden | what bug was that |
| 00:42.12 | Garoun|Loupana | was doing some binding guarding flag in av (first mistake) and got jumped |
| 00:42.25 | Garoun|Loupana | my shift key proceeded to get bound to every key I use in a normal fight |
| 00:42.42 | seebs | Heee! |
| 00:42.46 | Garoun|Loupana | and got stuck that way until I logged and wiped out the bindings cache file |
| 00:43.27 | Garoun|Loupana | need to put in a request to auto toggle the binding mode off if you go into combat :) |
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| 00:47.17 | Kirkburn | This is (also) awesome - play all three at the same time: http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/11/27/youtube-vs-google-video-vs-revver/ |
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| 00:49.29 | Kirkburn | "We will be extending our normally scheduled maintenance for all realms to begin at 3:00 AM PST and end at 11:00 AM PST on Tuesday, December 12th. |
| 00:49.29 | Kirkburn | " |
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| 00:49.56 | bleetah | sounds like a couple of patches, even if just server side |
| 00:50.10 | Thunder_Child | are mods now unable to hold their positioning if the game is loaded w/o them, then loaded again with them? |
| 00:50.42 | Thunder_Child | after having first positioned them ofc |
| 00:51.05 | Tuller | Thunder_Child: that's always been true, if the frames created by the mod are created post PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 00:52.37 | Thunder_Child | but if i never unload it it will be fine? |
| 00:53.29 | bleetah | almost OT, was the original WoW public beta '03 or '04? |
| 00:53.34 | bleetah | <brains gone blank |
| 00:53.51 | Tuller | Thunder_Child: if the frames do not exist at load time, they won't be saved, I think |
| 00:54.21 | Tuller | Thunder_Child: I forget the exact rules for it, because I haven't used static frames in a long time |
| 00:54.42 | Tuller | as in, other than ludwig :) |
| 00:55.27 | Thunder_Child | well what i am saying is that if the mods are loaded they will stay the same no matter how many times i enter/exit the game, but if i unload the mod and start the game, then exit, load and start the game again, they are back to their original starting position |
| 00:55.42 | Thunder_Child | and this sort of thing never used to happen before |
| 00:55.58 | bleetah | Cairenn|afk: I got a new 'song' for you, but I don't think it'd pass readability on the WoW forum if I posted it there (ever heard of a band called Tool?) ... remind me to put it up somewhere when you're back ;) |
| 00:57.19 | Tuller | I still need to figure out why people are having stance issues still |
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| 01:02.10 | ckknight | bleetah, 03 |
| 01:02.25 | bleetah | cknthanks mate |
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| 01:05.53 | kaiden | *waits for someone to approve ckknight's new durability fu upload* |
| 01:06.16 | ckknight | kaiden, it just updates libs |
| 01:06.33 | kaiden | Anyone ever heard of the addon TacHUD if so does anyone know where it's available from? |
| 01:07.08 | Industrial | google doesnt so no |
| 01:16.55 | Garoun|Loupana | whats the command to /release corpse |
| 01:16.57 | Tierrie|Work | you know what would be awesome is if we had a Chess Addon |
| 01:17.20 | Tierrie|Work | obviously, for playing chess while pulling |
| 01:17.49 | Inside | <_< |
| 01:17.51 | Inside | I wrote an uno addon |
| 01:18.47 | Garoun|Loupana | this flippin sucks, I'm stuck dead in AB |
| 01:18.50 | Garoun|Loupana | and my corpse won't release |
| 01:18.56 | Inside | ~_~ |
| 01:18.57 | purl | :/ |
| 01:18.58 | Inside | I've had that too |
| 01:19.05 | Inside | sucks! |
| 01:19.38 | Garoun|Loupana | and I don't know the commandline command to release corpse |
| 01:19.45 | Inside | c_c |
| 01:19.45 | Inside | hmm |
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| 01:20.05 | Garoun|Loupana | checking wowwiki but Release is a fairly common term :P |
| 01:20.24 | ckknight | Garoun|Loupana, you from, like, Utah or Idaho? |
| 01:21.59 | Garoun|Loupana | why? |
| 01:22.03 | Garoun|Loupana | :P and no |
| 01:22.21 | Qshadowp | hmm, with chat channels in wow, is there any way to register the channel to yourself? |
| 01:22.31 | Qshadowp | so you can logout without fear of loseing moderation privilidges |
| 01:22.59 | Garoun|Loupana | not that I know of Qs, once every in teh channel logs out it's up for grabs |
| 01:23.08 | ckknight | Garoun|Loupana, you said "flippin" |
| 01:23.19 | Qshadowp | aww |
| 01:23.25 | Qshadowp | and if i logout, moderation goes to someone else |
| 01:23.26 | Qshadowp | bleh |
| 01:23.32 | Garoun|Loupana | force of habit sometimes to not let the words fly, ck |
| 01:23.33 | bleetah | ckknight: en_AU has 'flippin' |
| 01:23.49 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:23.55 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm actually from N Va |
| 01:24.04 | ckknight | I've known it to be a particularly Mormon phrase |
| 01:24.18 | ckknight | as well as other swear words being replaced by words such as that |
| 01:24.49 | Garoun|Loupana | I usually use friggin |
| 01:24.54 | bleetah | ehh, en_AU would have us say it to our grandmothers, or if journalists are present. but that's about the only cases I can think of ;) |
| 01:25.05 | Garoun|Loupana | flippin is a new one even for me |
| 01:25.33 | seebs | Hey, since the population's shifted some: |
| 01:25.45 | seebs | Any good way to scroll an edit box so it shows the leftmost text rather than the rightmost? |
| 01:27.46 | bleetah | dunno about any text edit box, soz, but it reminds me of another question I had: would it be possible to replace the default chat text entry box with something more usable via mods? (eg, arrow keys don't move you, but move around the text, etc.) |
| 01:27.54 | Garoun|Loupana | a lot of mods do that right now Bleetah |
| 01:28.08 | Garoun|Loupana | prat comes to mind |
| 01:28.19 | seebs | What I have is a scrolling list that includes edit boxes, so of course, I fill them with text. |
| 01:28.45 | bleetah | Garoun|Loupana: will have to look into that. thanks :) |
| 01:28.46 | seebs | The problem is, they end up all scrolled to the right, and I don't want that. |
| 01:28.51 | AnduinLothar | anyone wanna help me debug DamageMeters? Got reported errors i cant repro |
| 01:29.16 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 01:29.21 | seebs | What errors? |
| 01:29.29 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: if you can't find anyone in ten mins, give me a shout |
| 01:29.32 | seebs | I seem to recall that I was getting an error on line 1874 every time I logged in if I had it on. |
| 01:29.33 | bleetah | <afk, coffee |
| 01:29.51 | seebs | So I disabled it, and now it's not-working, but it's not-working without any errors, and for an understandable reason, which is that it's turned off. |
| 01:30.00 | Sylphid | anyone happen to use wow ui designer? |
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| 01:34.14 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: back, feel free to /msg me |
| 01:34.23 | seebs | Is it common to get disconnected on login these days? It seems to happen to me more than it used to. |
| 01:34.31 | seebs | And Anduin, I could try to help too. I like damagemeters! |
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| 01:35.58 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 01:41.40 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh, now I have to see what mod is forcing my popup windows to close |
| 01:41.55 | Garoun|Loupana | my join BG and Rez accept aren't working |
| 01:41.58 | Guillotine | anybody know the slash command for binding spells to keys? |
| 01:42.56 | Garoun|Loupana | I can't even talk to the Spirit Guide in the BG to rez |
| 01:43.03 | abug | @Sylphid: I used to |
| 01:44.59 | Sylphid | abug, well it was working last i used it and all that i can think of that changed is the 2.0.1 patch.... |
| 01:45.05 | Garoun|Loupana | something in the new Xloot is doing it |
| 01:45.13 | Xuerian | I just fixed it. |
| 01:45.15 | Xuerian | :P |
| 01:45.16 | Garoun|Loupana | oh :P |
| 01:45.25 | Garoun|Loupana | god that was driving me bonkers, Xue |
| 01:45.50 | Xuerian | Sorry =P |
| 01:46.20 | Garoun|Loupana | it's ok, I'll be happy when the CloseLoot() bug is gone with teh ui |
| 01:46.43 | Xuerian | Doesn't matter now, that was me making a mistake in nuking the "zomg addon performing something restricted, let's let it work but BUG THE USER!!" thing. |
| 01:46.46 | Garoun|Loupana | I love xloot but after it pops up a few times I give up :P |
| 01:46.55 | Xuerian | It is properly nuked now :3 |
| 01:47.04 | Garoun|Loupana | I'll be sure to check and let you know |
| 01:48.33 | Xuerian | Thanks. =) |
| 01:49.17 | Qshadowp | :> |
| 01:50.13 | Kaelten | ello :) |
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| 01:52.12 | Garoun|Loupana | let me go update xloot real fast :P before I pvp more, loadit is a lifesaver |
| 01:52.57 | Xuerian | :3. If you're using Monitor, I accidentally left a debug statement in it, if it's not corrected now, it'll be corrected with the next snapshot. |
| 01:53.17 | Garoun|Loupana | k k, TrainerFu has a debug statement in it also hehe |
| 01:53.55 | Darklin | Did they fix the bug at WoWAce that was messing up the dependencies? |
| 01:54.02 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: were you still after assistance? |
| 01:54.20 | AnduinLothar | seebs helped me, thx |
| 01:54.22 | Xuerian | Yes, /files is now built snapshot-style instead of per-commit |
| 01:54.30 | AnduinLothar | I had forgotten to upload the xml file, lol |
| 01:54.34 | Garoun|Loupana | now all I really need is a gatherer data importer and mapnotes importer for cartographer and my UI is back to pre-2.0 status :) with 30megs less mib |
| 01:54.35 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: np, and thx seebs :) |
| 01:55.20 | seebs | Was no problem, turned out to be really easy once caught; just regular bit rot. |
| 01:55.39 | AnduinLothar | brain rot more like |
| 01:55.45 | Garoun|Loupana | I had a really good one Xeu, I tried a reload on my ui to fix the no popups issue... that was a HORRIBLE idea |
| 01:55.52 | Garoun|Loupana | it completely crashed wow :P |
| 01:56.17 | seebs | Well, uploading two files that aren't in sync is classic bit rot. Nothing wrong with either, just, well, not in sync. |
| 01:56.40 | Xuerian | Garoun|Loupana: Heheheh... What can I say, when I break something, it's a big thing :P |
| 01:57.11 | bleetah | ok, here's my latest 'song'. not suitable for the WoW UI Forum Stress Relief thread :- http://forgotten.bleeter.org/modder_with_a_penis.txt definately not office safe if you've got text to speech ;) |
| 01:57.17 | Garoun|Loupana | and if there's a rare bug, I gaurantee you I'll find it :P |
| 01:58.18 | Xuerian | Garoun|Loupana: It'll find me, at least, that's for sure. |
| 01:58.35 | seebs | Wow, SetMaxLetters has just saved me a lot of trouble. |
| 01:59.17 | Darklin | lol Bleet! |
| 02:00.28 | kaiden | Anyone know any addons that would be downloadable from wowace.com or wowinterface.com that could overwrite the tooltip positioning and anchor it to the center of the screen? |
| 02:00.58 | Garoun|Loupana | it was really weird when I couldn't even click on the spirit guide X |
| 02:01.39 | seebs | kaiden, not off the top of my head. Do you want one, or are you trying to get rid of one? :) |
| 02:01.45 | seebs | I seem to recall that there's some tooltip mod that does that. |
| 02:02.08 | Xuerian | Garoun|Loupana: That's the sign of a good bug.... It doesn't throw a error, but causes serious consternation ;3 |
| 02:02.20 | Darklin | kaiden: Why not use the latest MoveAnything? |
| 02:02.26 | kaiden | i'm trying to get rid of one |
| 02:02.41 | kaiden | i have an addon highjacking my tooltips overwriting tipbuddy and tinytip's ability to anchor the unit tip |
| 02:02.52 | kaiden | and forcing my tooltips to anchor to the center of the screen |
| 02:02.53 | Darklin | kaiden: oh I understand. |
| 02:03.10 | Darklin | kaiden: What mods do you have installed atm? |
| 02:04.22 | kaiden | buggrabber, clearfont, assister, bagnon, bugsack, buyemall, cartographer, the full ctmod package, fubar and a few fubar plugins, ignoremore, klhthreatmeter, mybindings2, odeps, olightsup outfitter, poisoner, ratingbuster, sapper, sct, seriousbufftimers, spamsentry, teknicolor, thebigpicture, thelowdown, tinypad, trinitybuttons |
| 02:04.46 | bleetah | yay, it's not enhtooltip ;) :D |
| 02:05.19 | kaiden | it's seriously driving me batty |
| 02:05.28 | Tuller | kaiden: try without bagnon and see if its that |
| 02:05.41 | Tuller | kaiden: bagnon calls standard tooltip functions, though |
| 02:05.57 | kaiden | Tuller, i've had bagnon installed forever though and this just started earlier when i installed a bunch of ace addons |
| 02:06.01 | kaiden | i've been going through removing them all |
| 02:07.54 | kaiden | ok went back to the same package i was using earlier and removed all the addons i've installed today except klht |
| 02:08.44 | kaiden | I bet it was ratingbuster it messes with the tooltips |
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| 02:11.12 | Darklin | Tuller: You busy studying at the moment? |
| 02:11.17 | Tuller | Darklin: no |
| 02:11.55 | Darklin | Tuller: Got a sec then? I've tried 4 different ways of changing the state headers like you suggested and it's not working. Heh. |
| 02:12.13 | Tuller | Darklin: sure |
| 02:13.12 | Darklin | I created nested for loops to set up the statemap-stance-# attributes with stuff like 0:1000;1:1001; etc etc. |
| 02:13.51 | Darklin | But once stance is changed, it doesn't want to retain what page was previous. |
| 02:14.12 | Darklin | It just overwrites the bar like it does now and still thinks it is on the page it was before. |
| 02:14.39 | Darklin | At that point I have to SHIFT + # to page to a different page and then it displays properly from that point on. |
| 02:15.08 | Tuller | Darklin: you want to change the LoadDruidStates type functions |
| 02:15.15 | Darklin | Tuller: I did. |
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| 02:16.00 | Darklin | Funny thing was, I stripped your BState_Create all the way down to just a few lines at one point, just trying to understand how it all worked. And 99% of the mod still worked fine. Heh. |
| 02:16.41 | Tuller | Darklin: 3000:7000;3001:7001;3002:7002;3003:7003; etc for prowl |
| 02:17.28 | Darklin | Tuller: Aye, that's exactly what I did. |
| 02:18.24 | Darklin | For statemap-stance-1 it became 0:1000;1:1001;2:1002; (etc.) |
| 02:18.46 | Darklin | It dun like it. =) |
| 02:20.43 | seebs | Anduin: I have downloaded the updated DamageMeters. It now works like a thing which works in the night. No errors. |
| 02:21.07 | seebs | If I may make a suggestion, though, perhaps a good resetpos position would be about 20 pixels lower; it showed up with the title bar under my TitanPanel and I couldn't move it without toggling that. |
| 02:21.15 | Darklin | So now I'm trying to hook into BActionBar.driver:GetAttribute('state') to spit it to defchat and see if the thousand series states are even actually being hit or if they're mapping out to something else before getting that far. |
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| 02:23.26 | Darklin | It's wierd. But during a stance change. BActionBar:UpdateStance() isn't being called anymore. I commented it out and nothing changed. |
| 02:24.04 | Tuller | Darklin: what version are you working off of? |
| 02:24.26 | Darklin | 6:12:10 |
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| 02:26.45 | Tuller | hrm... |
| 02:26.54 | Tuller | stupid queue |
| 02:28.43 | Darklin | Heh, I had a 300+ queue getting in on Stormrage |
| 02:29.27 | Darklin | Ok, I finally found where to hook it at. |
| 02:29.51 | Darklin | And the thousand series are definately getting set |
| 02:30.27 | Darklin | When I page around in there, It's returning states of 3000;3001;3002 to 3005 |
| 02:30.53 | Darklin | So... I must be doing something wrong. |
| 02:31.02 | Darklin | Going to nuke my files and start again. |
| 02:31.12 | bleetah | anyone: does the cosmos patcher use port 8087 for comms? |
| 02:31.33 | bleetah | can't seem to see reference to it on the wowwiki page |
| 02:31.38 | Tuller | Darklin: its entirely possible my code is broken somewhere :) |
| 02:32.17 | Tuller | I still need to rewrite the state header to take into account friendly/enemy and mouse buttons |
| 02:32.31 | Tuller | but some people are apparently still not able to page and stuff |
| 02:32.32 | bleetah | nm, answered it myself. yes, it does :) |
| 02:32.57 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: I'll add a comment on the wowwiki page re: port 8087. If you object, I'm guessing you can delete ;) |
| 02:33.17 | AnduinLothar | link |
| 02:33.33 | bleetah | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_Patcher |
| 02:34.08 | AnduinLothar | please do |
| 02:34.38 | Darklin | Tuller: I hate to say this but your Bar management and Button management may need rewritten as well. |
| 02:34.46 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: done |
| 02:34.56 | Tuller | Darklin: what's breaking on those? |
| 02:35.11 | Tuller | Darklin: other than the fact I need to do showstates :) |
| 02:35.31 | Darklin | Tuller: Well, it seems I'm able to comment out certian functions, specifically just about anything that deals with stances. |
| 02:35.44 | Darklin | Like they're never getting called. |
| 02:36.12 | Neuro_Medivh | in combat, or out of combat? |
| 02:36.55 | Tuller | Darklin: most stance functions are only called by the options menu |
| 02:37.11 | Darklin | Tuller: Ah. |
| 02:37.32 | Tuller | Darklin: buttons update when attached to a bar |
| 02:37.58 | Industrial | how do i disband a party from lua |
| 02:37.58 | Darklin | Well, I just, as a test, rewrote the statemap-stealth-# attributes to have the mapping, and apparently it's working. So it must be a bug somewhere in my code. |
| 02:38.10 | Industrial | or slash commands whatever |
| 02:39.01 | Industrial | anyone? |
| 02:39.28 | Darklin | Bleh. |
| 02:39.57 | Darklin | The mapping for statemap-stance-0 is going to be MASSIVE |
| 02:41.02 | Darklin | Anyone know if you can do something like " 1000,2000,3000,4000,5000,6000,7000:0" as a state transition? |
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| 02:42.09 | Darklin | otherwise I'm going to have to do 1000:0;2000:0;3000:0; etc. |
| 02:46.32 | Tuller | Darklin: its the reason I really hate state headers :) |
| 02:46.58 | Tuller | Darklin: you don't wanna see what happens when you up the maximum amount of pages to 120 :) |
| 02:49.32 | Tuller | Darklin: I'm hoping there's actually a better way to do it, but I'm not aware of one |
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| 02:50.35 | Lamex | Tuller, did you fix the stance swapping with hidden bars as well unload login/ui reload? |
| 02:50.44 | Lamex | in 6.12.10 |
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| 02:51.28 | Tuller | Lamex: all buttons are created by default now, so if its not working there's an issue somewhere else |
| 02:51.40 | Lamex | Tuller, ok well I will test it now then |
| 02:52.11 | Tuller | aka: Why bongos uses more memory at login than it used to |
| 02:52.12 | Shadowed | #$!#$ blizzard |
| 02:53.02 | Shadowed | clear 4H trash, server dies....yay |
| 02:53.08 | Lamex | ouch :( |
| 02:53.43 | Lamex | we lacked melee dps on twins, and since the timers for the teleport on every mod are broken it did not very well |
| 02:53.55 | Shadowed | at least it's not clearing raz trash 3 times in a week because of it |
| 02:53.56 | Shadowed | bleh |
| 02:54.10 | Lamex | that is a true pain in the ass indeed |
| 02:55.00 | Lamex | Tuller, still broken |
| 02:55.10 | Tuller | rock |
| 02:55.35 | Lamex | Tuller, is not fixable the way you fixed the keybindings with hidden bars? |
| 02:55.50 | Lamex | it is basically the same, instead of keybindings it is the stance changing |
| 02:56.36 | Darklin | Tuller: It's done for druids btw |
| 02:56.47 | Darklin | Tuller: It's working now |
| 02:56.55 | Tuller | Darklin: hurray |
| 02:57.23 | Tuller | Lamex: the keybindings still work, just not the stance? |
| 02:57.31 | Lamex | Tuller, yeah |
| 02:58.18 | Lamex | Tuller, keybindings works perfect since you fixed that, however stance swapping is the same way, it ignores the stance swapping when login and you have your bars hidden, or reload ui with hidden bars |
| 02:58.28 | Darklin | Tuller: Do you want me to put the source on a Paste site so you can look it over? |
| 02:58.47 | Tuller | Darklin: sure |
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| 02:59.31 | Darklin | Tuller: http://rafb.net/paste/results/fROKD575.html < Thats the druid fix |
| 03:00.45 | Lamex | Tuller, I will dive otherwise in your source and see if I can solve it :) (kinda annoys the hell out of me >.<) |
| 03:02.00 | Darklin | Lamex: Whats up? I've been staring at Tuller's code for days. I might be able to help. |
| 03:02.30 | Lamex | Darklin, when you have the bars hidden and you login (or reload ui) it will ignore the stance changing if you are in shadowform for example |
| 03:04.10 | Darklin | Lamex: Explain, "Ignore the stance changing". You mean when you log in the bars aren't updated as tho you were in the stance? |
| 03:04.17 | Lamex | Darklin, yes |
| 03:04.48 | Darklin | Lamex: Ok. That's what I've been working on. Lemme double check but I should be able to rewrite it for you real quick. I just this very minute got it fixed for druids. |
| 03:04.52 | Darklin | Well, something similar anyway. |
| 03:05.00 | Lamex | ok |
| 03:05.30 | Lamex | Darklin, but it only happens for when you have the bars hidden |
| 03:05.38 | Scre3m | anyone on Thrall? |
| 03:05.58 | Darklin | Lamex: Oh, I just tried it and it worked with the bars visible. |
| 03:05.58 | Lamex | Darklin, if you make them visible after you login it will not have any effect |
| 03:06.14 | Darklin | It makes sense that they wouldn't be updated if the bars were hidden |
| 03:06.15 | Lamex | Darklin, bars visible is no problem, that works fine |
| 03:06.28 | Darklin | Gimme a sec, I remember seeing the code that you need to massage |
| 03:06.39 | Lamex | well I prefer my bars hidden, everything is keybounded but in certain situations I want them visible etc |
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| 03:06.58 | Lamex | Darklin, if you could email it to me then I can dive into it tomorrow |
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| 03:07.16 | Lamex | since I want to go to bed here, 4am :P |
| 03:07.27 | Darklin | Lamex: Bongos_ActionBar/actionBar/button.lua:line-32 |
| 03:07.36 | Darklin | if (bar:CanPage() or bar:HasStance()) and bar:IsVisible() then |
| 03:07.50 | Darklin | this:UpdateAll() |
| 03:07.59 | Lamex | ermm |
| 03:08.06 | Lamex | that last part does not make sence |
| 03:08.13 | Lamex | ok thanx I will look into it tomrrow then |
| 03:08.22 | Lamex | and see why it is that way |
| 03:08.24 | Tuller | Darklin: that just updates the looks of a button |
| 03:08.54 | Lamex | Tuller, is your code OO based? (that looks like OO based) |
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| 03:08.59 | Darklin | Ahh, I just remembered seeing the check for bar:IsVisible() and thought maybe that was where the problem was. |
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| 03:09.25 | Tuller | Lamex: actionbars and buttons are now |
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| 03:09.52 | Tuller | Lamex: but it was mostly because I didn't feel like writing BActionButton. anymore :) |
| 03:10.07 | Darklin | Tuller: UpdateAll() also calls UpdateHotkey in a little bit. |
| 03:10.09 | TonyD | ggar |
| 03:10.13 | TonyD | damn blizz |
| 03:10.21 | TonyD | exact same place as last time |
| 03:10.26 | Tuller | Darklin: that just updates the text displayed |
| 03:10.34 | Tuller | Darklin: all ID stuff is handled by the state header |
| 03:10.36 | TonyD | took me 2 hours to get a st group, then right as I was about to kill the last gatekeeper |
| 03:10.42 | Lamex | Tuller, heh I do not like Lua at all but I can handle it, OO should make it easier, I love OO, I will look into this bug myself if you don't mind :) |
| 03:10.44 | TonyD | CRASH! |
| 03:10.50 | Lamex | rofl |
| 03:11.02 | TonyD | ecact same spot as yesterday |
| 03:11.08 | TonyD | when it crashed |
| 03:11.14 | TonyD | this time they ALL crashed tho |
| 03:11.21 | Lamex | hmm |
| 03:11.26 | Darklin | Tuller: ok. Sorry, I still don't have 100% down what's controlled by what. |
| 03:11.39 | Lamex | experiment with it and then report it TonyD |
| 03:11.39 | Darklin | LUA hates me. |
| 03:11.52 | TonyD | maybe not |
| 03:11.54 | Tuller | Darklin: aka my code doesn't make much sense :) |
| 03:11.57 | Lamex | Darklin, I do not like Lua either |
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| 03:12.10 | TonyD | tuller, name sounds familiar, which ones do you do again? |
| 03:12.17 | Xuerian | Lua wins =) |
| 03:12.17 | Darklin | Tuller: Actually, it does. The problem is, the WoW API does not behave like I expect it to half the time. |
| 03:12.20 | Tuller | TonyD: bongos and bagnon |
| 03:12.23 | TonyD | ahh |
| 03:12.25 | AnduinLothar | the graveyard in cc is bellow ground on kil'jaeden. i'm fallign through the world endlessly |
| 03:12.28 | TonyD | i use both |
| 03:12.29 | AnduinLothar | CH* |
| 03:12.36 | Xuerian | Once you get past tables, anyway. |
| 03:12.42 | TonyD | discovered em on bcbeta |
| 03:12.56 | Darklin | Xuerian: I'm a python fan. Wish they would make it so you could use either on the interface but ah well. |
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| 03:13.22 | Lamex | Java and PHP fan here |
| 03:13.32 | TonyD | tuller: can you make a unit frame mod? |
| 03:13.35 | TonyD | hehe |
| 03:13.40 | Tuller | TonyD: I did, its called Sage :) |
| 03:13.48 | Tuller | TonyD: it isn't updated for 2.0 quite yet |
| 03:13.49 | Xuerian | Darklin: Hm, I haven't delved much into python yet, though I did get ready to. Lamex: I used to be a PHP addict, but I now hate it thanks to Lua conditioning :P |
| 03:13.51 | Darklin | Tuller: Did you get a chance to look over that code I posted for ya? And if so, do you want me to rewrite the code for the warriors/rogues/priests too? |
| 03:13.57 | TonyD | well, I'm a DUF user |
| 03:14.09 | Tuller | Darklin: I've implemented it :) |
| 03:14.10 | TonyD | with a highly customized version |
| 03:14.14 | Tuller | Darklin: I can handle the rest of it and stuff |
| 03:14.19 | Tuller | Darklin: thanks :) |
| 03:14.26 | Lamex | Xuerian, well Lua does not make sence to me and most of time breaks general coding stuff from other languages such as PHP and Java |
| 03:14.29 | Darklin | Tuller: ok. Just trying to take some of the workload off you. I know that you've got finals. |
| 03:14.30 | TonyD | bug vnagnon is the best inventory mod ever |
| 03:14.40 | TonyD | but vgabnon |
| 03:14.44 | Tuller | Darklin: the only hard one I had was yesterday |
| 03:14.52 | Darklin | Tuller: How'd it go? |
| 03:14.58 | Tuller | Darklin: I have no idea |
| 03:15.05 | Xuerian | Lamex: Yeah, it does have that tendency, but after a while, it's easier than the rest =) |
| 03:15.23 | Xuerian | Except for tables. Tables are the root of all evil. |
| 03:15.55 | Tuller | Xuerian: tables are awesome :P |
| 03:16.08 | Xuerian | Tuller: Shhhh, I'm not admitting that yet. |
| 03:16.58 | Lamex | Xuerian, tables are easy for me |
| 03:17.24 | Tuller | Xuerian: I've indexed a table by a frame I think :) |
| 03:17.47 | Xuerian | Tuller: I've used frames as tables. :P |
| 03:17.48 | Lamex | Tuller, 6.12.10 is the latest version correct? |
| 03:17.56 | Tuller | Lamex: yes |
| 03:18.05 | Tuller | Xuerian: that's how I do OO :) |
| 03:18.12 | Lamex | Tuller, why on earth renamed shadowform to shadowform/redemption? |
| 03:18.18 | Xuerian | Tuller: hehe, amen. |
| 03:18.46 | Tuller | Lamex: because apparently it also switches when in spirit of redemption |
| 03:19.06 | Lamex | wth? for real? |
| 03:19.26 | Darklin | Anyone remember the macro to get rid of the annoying clicking sound when people join a raid? |
| 03:19.47 | Lamex | Darklin, turn off sound? |
| 03:21.07 | Tuller | ctrl+s :P |
| 03:21.07 | Lamex | anyway I am off |
| 03:21.08 | Lamex | c ya all |
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| 03:24.03 | AnduinLothar | http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a118/bianca1420/funny.jpg |
| 03:24.25 | abug | KEYLOGGER DO NOT CLICK |
| 03:24.33 | Tem | I hate you |
| 03:24.35 | bleetah | argh, i really hope blizz bring back lfg chan... there's been a homophobic rant been goin g on in our trade for half an hour, usually that sort of crap used to be on LFG |
| 03:25.34 | Tem | bleetah, simple solution |
| 03:25.42 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.54 | abug | or join in |
| 03:26.06 | bleetah | heh, bit hard when i'm trying to write/improve enchantrix's barker option, that talks to trade |
| 03:26.21 | bleetah | the mental ignore only lasts so long |
| 03:27.02 | MentalPower | get an ignorelist addon, and mass ignore |
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| 03:29.19 | abug | one tem is pleasant, two is masochistic |
| 03:30.20 | bleetah | MentalPower: that fights the infection for me, not immunises the population (although I agree, short of creating a Global - Kiddies chan, there's not much Blizz can do) |
| 03:31.15 | Scre3m | i'd pay triple for an all-adult server |
| 03:31.26 | MentalPower | lol |
| 03:31.47 | abug | only if they let us cyber in public |
| 03:31.54 | bleetah | hehe |
| 03:32.07 | Osagasu | QFT. |
| 03:32.10 | Osagasu | ^^; |
| 03:32.34 | Scre3m | the precisely the kind of talk i wish to avoid |
| 03:32.40 | Scre3m | just want to play the game |
| 03:32.47 | bleetah | i'd actually like one where you could change faction, so you don't really know if that rogue of same race standing next to you in EPL is about to kill you, or not... I'd then be able to fulfill my true RP wish and havbe my Nelf amass a group to take out Staghelm |
| 03:32.52 | MentalPower | you know the ironic/funny part? |
| 03:32.54 | MentalPower | some of the kiddies that are taking part in the homophobic rant, turn out to be homosexuals themselves |
| 03:33.07 | bleetah | aye |
| 03:33.15 | bleetah | well, not funny.. quite sad really |
| 03:33.53 | Scre3m | i'd like a server where there are no factions |
| 03:34.02 | Scre3m | like EQ |
| 03:34.07 | Scre3m | pvp only in BGs |
| 03:34.10 | Osagasu | I'd like to have a server with a murderer system like UO did |
| 03:35.13 | Scre3m | i didn't play UO, what was that system like? |
| 03:35.44 | Osagasu | Guards in towns, otherwise FFA |
| 03:35.52 | Osagasu | Guild wars... |
| 03:35.57 | Scre3m | hrm, that would be interesting |
| 03:36.00 | Scre3m | but i'll pass :) |
| 03:36.14 | abug | that kind of system hurts new players |
| 03:36.21 | Osagasu | Reds (murderers: you kill more than 4 or 5 people and you become flagged as freely FFA for everyone without risk of getting flagged themselves) |
| 03:37.15 | Osagasu | It balances out because reds can't enter towns with guards |
| 03:38.30 | Scre3m | sounds like fun |
| 03:43.44 | Thardal | it was really abusable though |
| 03:43.52 | Shadowed | round two! |
| 03:43.59 | Thardal | people played a criminal on an alt and gave all their loot to their non-criminal main |
| 03:44.43 | Darklin | psst. Clad... =P |
| 03:45.33 | cladhaire | hrm?> |
| 03:46.13 | Darklin | Have you gotten a chance to look at PerfectRaid *ducks*. =) |
| 03:47.05 | abug | ~ducks |
| 03:47.07 | purl | ducks are http://tinyurl.com/2kknq |
| 03:47.26 | cladhaire | Darklin: No sir. |
| 03:47.28 | cladhaire | you'll know when i do |
| 03:47.31 | cladhaire | because i'll be silent in IRC |
| 03:47.36 | Darklin | cladhaire: heh |
| 03:47.49 | Darklin | purl: What was that link about? |
| 03:48.18 | abug | ~bot |
| 03:48.19 | purl | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 03:48.46 | Darklin | abug: Ah. |
| 03:48.54 | Darklin | abug: So what was that about a keylogger earlier? |
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| 03:49.12 | abug | a pop-culture reference |
| 03:50.28 | Kirov | i hate dropdown menus with a passion |
| 03:51.00 | abug | is there a wiki page on them? |
| 03:51.14 | Xuerian | Kirov: DewDrop is nice =) |
| 03:51.57 | Neuro_Medivh | I believe they are bugged now |
| 03:57.11 | Scre3m | ag, u around? |
| 04:01.57 | AnduinLothar | lol CTRA RaidStatus is borked. RaidMana says 40599% |
| 04:03.04 | AnduinLothar | it's priest mana that's borked |
| 04:03.10 | AnduinLothar | pally and druid mana work |
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| 04:14.33 | Neuro_Medivh | grrr, can't post anything |
| 04:22.50 | Kirkburn | This I find atrocious - a 'genuine fansite' for the PSP which, with a little digging, is quite obviously a marketing front: http://www.alliwantforxmasisapsp.com/ |
| 04:23.18 | Kirkburn | (it doesn't help that the video they posted is utterly utterly awful) |
| 04:23.35 | Xuerian | Yeah, Sony got railed for that on Digg earlier today. |
| 04:24.02 | Kirkburn | I came to it from Joystiq |
| 04:24.20 | Kirkburn | Also found out about the ThreeSpeech site of theirs too |
| 04:24.38 | Xuerian | ThreeSpeech? |
| 04:24.49 | Kirkburn | I would be okay with it *if they didn't try and hide that it's a Sony-paid production* |
| 04:26.14 | Kirkburn | Three Speech appears to be a PS3 blog, but it attempts to hide the facts |
| 04:26.30 | Xuerian | Ahh |
| 04:26.47 | Kirkburn | "Three Speech isn't part of PlayStation, but it does get to speak to PlayStation. You could say we're 'semi official'." <-- what the hell does that mean? That's all it says ... |
| 04:28.00 | Kirkburn | Xuerian, you know they filtered the comments on the first site too? |
| 04:28.35 | Kirkburn | e.g. it blocks the words Marketing and Zipatoni (the website owners) |
| 04:28.46 | Xuerian | Kirkburn: Nope, I didn't notice anything about it, but I wouldn't doubt it a inch. Seems like sony hasn't learned anything from it's earlier interactions with the community |
| 04:29.21 | Kirkburn | Yeah, so it seems :/ |
| 04:31.12 | Xuerian | It's just disappointing to me, Sony could do much better business if it just knew how to listen to people instead of whatever advisory panels they have. I suppose that applies to any major business nowadays, too... At least ones doing major digital business. |
| 04:31.15 | Tuller | hurray for 40 mostly useless categories for vbagnon :) |
| 04:31.31 | Xuerian | Tuller: Hurray for vbagnon. =P |
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| 04:32.24 | Tuller | I'm thinking I add tabs for all of your characters to the side of your bags/bank to view your other stuff via dragging out |
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| 04:38.47 | cogwheel | anyone here fluent in bash scripting? |
| 04:39.51 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, the calculation in honorfu for the Today's Honor is off around 52ish |
| 04:40.05 | Garoun|Loupana | gotta test it more over time though with larger numbers :) |
| 04:43.18 | Guillotine | group of 6 of us just downed drak in AV o.O me in tree form healing, BWL warrior tank, Naxx hunter, bwl mage, bwl warlock X 2 |
| 04:44.12 | Guillotine | what do you guys think of this build for an affliction lock: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IA0riRfzqtbo0xc ? |
| 04:44.46 | Guillotine | hmm. is it worth having imp life tap if you have dark pact? |
| 04:46.18 | Garoun|Loupana | wish I knew why Bigwigs and ORA2 don't stay disabled after log off |
| 04:48.55 | Scre3m | i wish i had never found PerfectRaid, because now i can't stand not having it |
| 04:49.25 | Guillotine | Scre3m: Its not quite as good, but you can set up RDX.Cid to look just about exactly like PRaid. that what I'm doing |
| 04:49.35 | Guillotine | but I still want PRaid to come out >.> |
| 04:49.36 | Scre3m | got a link? |
| 04:49.59 | Scre3m | ag_unitframes is driving me nuts |
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| 04:50.08 | Scre3m | i cant hid the party in a raid |
| 04:50.12 | Scre3m | no range checking |
| 04:50.26 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:50.31 | Scre3m | cant read the friggin text unless the scale is way up |
| 04:50.32 | Scre3m | etc |
| 04:50.37 | Scre3m | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.38 | cladhaire | Scre3m: Sorry, |
| 04:50.42 | cladhaire | Guillotine: hehe i'm working on it =) |
| 04:51.08 | Guillotine | Scre3m: http://rdx.emoemu.com/ |
| 04:51.31 | Scre3m | <3 Cladhaire |
| 04:51.43 | Scre3m | but for the love of pete, get praid out ;) |
| 04:51.53 | Guillotine | lol |
| 04:51.59 | cladhaire | pay my bills so i can quit |
| 04:52.00 | cladhaire | =) |
| 04:52.02 | cladhaire | then you'l get it |
| 04:52.10 | Scre3m | i will be the first to donate on paypal |
| 04:52.13 | Scre3m | :) |
| 04:55.32 | seebs | Someone download AnnoyRP, I wanna claim I've got 500 downloads. |
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| 05:02.10 | phreaky | What does it do seebs? =) |
| 05:02.18 | seebs | It annoys people! |
| 05:02.31 | phreaky | oh.. |
| 05:02.33 | seebs | It emits chatter based on events, such as "cast spell" or "player hit". |
| 05:02.41 | phreaky | All the time? Oo |
| 05:02.47 | seebs | Well. |
| 05:02.57 | seebs | You COULD set an event for probability 100 on "Player Hit" with no restricting pattern. |
| 05:03.11 | seebs | If you set a lot of things to probabilities over 10%, the addon insults you. |
| 05:03.26 | phreaky | I like that about it though :) |
| 05:03.44 | seebs | I actually have an entire subset of the addon devoted to changing the warning message around enough that people are likely to read it. |
| 05:04.05 | phreaky | hehe |
| 05:04.08 | seebs | It starts as just "Percentages over 10 are likely to be annoying. You should pick lower frequencies, especially for very common actions." |
| 05:04.13 | phreaky | It sounds anoying indeed! :P |
| 05:04.27 | seebs | By around the 40th time you hit the dialog box, it's "Percentages over 10... common actions. Are you even listening to me?" |
| 05:04.41 | seebs | 50 or so gets "... common actions. I just don't feel we're connecting here." |
| 05:05.00 | seebs | Time #60 it ends with "I think we should see other people", and instead of an OK button you get a "WHAT?!?!" button. |
| 05:05.17 | seebs | It's intended to be annoying enough to strongly encourage the user to use reasonable (aka small) percentages. |
| 05:05.32 | seebs | Actually, that reminds me; I should change the default from 10 to 5 when dragging spells into the interface. |
| 05:06.37 | seebs | 5% sounds low, but by the end of an instance... Well, it's not low. |
| 05:06.52 | seebs | The other big feature is that you can have fairly large lists of things to say for an event. |
| 05:07.15 | seebs | I would think a rogue would quickly realize that you want at least 6-10 different possible statements for Sinister Strike. |
| 05:08.38 | seebs | Heh. I should have one of the dialog box things be "Look, I really don't think you're getting it. Have someone cast Arcane Intellect on you and read this again." |
| 05:09.21 | seebs | Heh. I could check for Blessing of Wisdom, and if it's on, ask the player to make sure it hasn't worn off prematurely, because setting the chances that high just isn't wise. |
| 05:15.00 | abug | porn should be free |
| 05:15.03 | cogwheel | to modularize, or to integrate? ... That is the question... |
| 05:15.19 | cogwheel | aaaaaaaaaaaand.... GO! |
| 05:15.21 | seebs | Depends on the thing. |
| 05:15.36 | abug | that's like asking great taste or less filling? |
| 05:15.48 | seebs | Something that has a lot of general applications ought to be modularized. Something very specialized may be better off well integrated. |
| 05:16.30 | abug | I disagree, all code should be integrated into the human brain |
| 05:16.36 | cogwheel | :P |
| 05:17.12 | cogwheel | Actually, the thing is that if I do modularize, i'd want to add more functionality to the different parts than I'd be giving in the integrated version... |
| 05:17.24 | seebs | Heh. <picture of egg> This is your brain. <picture of fried egg> This is your brain integrated with Microsoft Office. |
| 05:17.32 | cogwheel | lol |
| 05:17.39 | Neuro_Medivh | Depends on what is more important |
| 05:17.42 | seebs | Yeah. Often, that turns out to make the integrated version easier to write. |
| 05:17.45 | Neuro_Medivh | Performance of Portability |
| 05:17.47 | Garoun|Loupana | if you have Sci Fi channel, watch Lost Room Tonight |
| 05:17.49 | Garoun|Loupana | it's really good |
| 05:17.51 | Neuro_Medivh | s/of/or/ |
| 05:18.08 | seebs | Heh. |
| 05:18.15 | Neuro_Medivh | integration is better for performance |
| 05:18.19 | seebs | In my experience, portability turns out to get you better performance than performance does. |
| 05:18.29 | seebs | I had an argument with someone once about performance and portability. |
| 05:18.31 | cogwheel | Well, that's another thing... it shouldn't have any noticeable performance difference either way... only memory usage |
| 05:18.45 | seebs | He was going to do a graphically brilliant game, which was going to be incredibly fast because it was written for the bare metal. |
| 05:18.47 | cogwheel | (it's mostly dormant) |
| 05:18.54 | seebs | And it would be the most impressive game ever made for the Matrox Mystique. |
| 05:18.58 | seebs | I don't think he finished it. |
| 05:19.18 | abug | to Ace or not to Ace that is the quesiton |
| 05:19.27 | abug | s/quesiton/question/ |
| 05:19.39 | Neuro_Medivh | don't bother.. if you don't, someone else will take your addon and ace it for you anyway |
| 05:19.43 | cogwheel | Well, tbh, I'm already using ace for the hooking and database code... |
| 05:20.18 | seebs | I dunno. I didn't, because I don't have Ace now, and I wouldn't want to have to download another thing to run a mod, so my mod's totally self-contained. |
| 05:20.18 | cogwheel | seebs: ace doesn't work like that... |
| 05:20.18 | Neuro_Medivh | currently, ace is an embedded library |
| 05:20.19 | cogwheel | you embed it in your addon... the end users don't have to worry about anything like that |
| 05:20.34 | Neuro_Medivh | assuming the zip script works properly =) |
| 05:20.41 | seebs | Ahh. |
| 05:20.42 | abug | darn winzip |
| 05:20.45 | abug | darn it to hell |
| 05:20.48 | cogwheel | well i don't use the ace svn, so... :P |
| 05:20.57 | seebs | Interesting. |
| 05:21.31 | cogwheel | I run my own custom shell script to package my addons from my personal svn repository... ;) |
| 05:21.41 | Neuro_Medivh | I've already had people say "Hey, you should Ace eCastingBars!" |
| 05:22.04 | seebs | Man. |
| 05:22.07 | abug | Hey you should Ace your face! |
| 05:22.14 | cogwheel | Yeah... i really don't understand where the aura about ace came from... |
| 05:22.20 | seebs | I have actually been thinking about getting Cedega and switching to Linux just so I'll have decent editors and software. |
| 05:22.42 | cogwheel | I think there were a lot of "renegade" ace evangelists that went around pressuring people to use it... |
| 05:22.55 | ckknight | You should Ace your mom! |
| 05:22.55 | abug | it's all ckknight's fault |
| 05:23.02 | Neuro_Medivh | Blizzard will eventually realize they need to Ace the WoW client! |
| 05:23.03 | ckknight | oh, totally. |
| 05:23.17 | Gryphen | and most Ace addon bash non-ace addons saying how much more efficient they are in order to sell their own |
| 05:23.41 | ckknight | k... |
| 05:24.07 | cogwheel | seebs: I actually am runing cygwin under XP 'cause no linux distros are compatible with my hardware atm... |
| 05:24.32 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 05:24.37 | Neuro_Medivh | There's a phallacy that a bad Aced mod is better than a good non-Aced mod. Which isn't true. |
| 05:24.41 | seebs | I am SOOO sick of XP, though. |
| 05:25.01 | ckknight | Neuro_Medivh, oh, I got a whole rant regarding that |
| 05:25.06 | seebs | A friend of mine just runs WoW under Cedega, and apparently it runs. I've pretty much dropped all the copy-protected games I used to play, so... |
| 05:25.21 | ckknight | but bad mods are bad mods, no matter if they're Ace or non-Ace |
| 05:25.27 | seebs | Not much of a loss. My PC game is WoW, or GalCiv II if I want a strategy game. Apart from that, it's the Wii and the DS. |
| 05:25.45 | Neuro_Medivh | haven't tried galciv2... I couldn't get into GalCiv1 |
| 05:26.14 | Neuro_Medivh | had a hard time getting into Civ4 as well |
| 05:26.24 | seebs | I like galciv II a lot. |
| 05:26.34 | seebs | I think it's substantially improved over I. |
| 05:26.37 | cogwheel | I played WoW under cedega for a while. I got better performance than under windows except one thing that pissed me off to no end: no antialiasing :( |
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| 05:27.16 | seebs | I run at 1600x1200, and my video card isn't quite up to keeping really smooth at that (x800 pro, probably undertweaked), so I wouldn't mind dropping the antialiasing. |
| 05:27.45 | seebs | ClearFont eliminated the one reason I cared about that anyway. :) |
| 05:28.04 | Scre3m | ok yes! RDX does have a nice looking list!! |
| 05:28.13 | FlAWD | you can run wow at 1600? |
| 05:28.20 | FlAWD | my settings wont let me go over 1280 :( |
| 05:28.32 | seebs | Yeah, 1600x1200. |
| 05:28.46 | FlAWD | thats dumb |
| 05:28.47 | seebs | The great joy of my freelance writing career was the gig that paid enough for me to get a 1600x1200 LCD. |
| 05:28.48 | cladhaire | Scre3m: hehe so use it then i can drop praid =) |
| 05:28.55 | Scre3m | hell no |
| 05:29.04 | abug | when I change WoW to run in opengl mode it crashes on startup :( |
| 05:29.08 | FlAWD | my LCD can do 1600 too but wow won't do it |
| 05:29.26 | seebs | Huh! |
| 05:29.29 | seebs | What's your video card? |
| 05:29.30 | Scre3m | RDX != praid |
| 05:29.40 | cladhaire | lol |
| 05:29.45 | cladhaire | you still want to use praid adfter using rdx |
| 05:29.48 | cladhaire | ? |
| 05:29.52 | seebs | I found a great way to reduce the stress of the raiding grind, which is that I don't do raids at all. |
| 05:29.55 | seebs | It saves SO much trouble. |
| 05:30.10 | Scre3m | cladhaire, yes, rdx is a bandaid fix, praid > all |
| 05:30.18 | cogwheel | I can do 1920x1200 at work on a 9800pro, but all the options have to be down all the way and there's noticeable mouse lag... |
| 05:30.25 | seebs | Huh. |
| 05:30.25 | Scre3m | you have to configure it and it comes with a lot stuff i dont need/want |
| 05:30.46 | Scre3m | praid is so easy to use and provides a perfect healers raid ui |
| 05:30.53 | seebs | I get weird things where my graphics will suddenly drop back hugely from 48fps to 20fps. Then if I change all my settings and change them back, all is fine. |
| 05:31.07 | cladhaire | good, considering i'm a healer |
| 05:31.44 | seebs | My Mac gets much lower frame rates, because it has a crappy video card. Shame, too, it's probably faster on raw CPU. |
| 05:31.44 | Scre3m | i'm a minimalist |
| 05:31.58 | abug | so was Andrew Jackson |
| 05:32.04 | abug | and look where he got us! |
| 05:32.16 | seebs | I sort of am too. I was SOOO happy to discover that Bongos could eliminate all the artwork for button bars, leaving me with Just Buttons. |
| 05:32.22 | bleetah | great films |
| 05:32.32 | bleetah | oh, that's Peter jackson.. who's Andrew? His brother? :-P |
| 05:32.41 | seebs | Want a great party prank? |
| 05:32.50 | seebs | Tell someone you have a great movie by Peter Jackson, director of LotR. |
| 05:32.56 | seebs | Then show them Meet the Feebles. |
| 05:33.16 | bleetah | nah, the undead movie he did |
| 05:33.17 | seebs | Which is, technically, a movie directed by the same guy. Really. It's not just someone else with the same name. |
| 05:33.17 | bleetah | "I kick ass for the lord!" pmsl |
| 05:33.24 | Kirkburn | haha |
| 05:33.25 | Neuro_Medivh | hahah, i know that movie! |
| 05:33.40 | seebs | Meet the Feebles is amazing. I have a friend who has done artwork of "mangled baby lollipops", who found Meet the Feebles "disturbing". |
| 05:33.47 | Neuro_Medivh | Preacher Man or something right? |
| 05:34.05 | abug | that one where whoopi was a nun? |
| 05:34.13 | bleetah | nah |
| 05:34.27 | bleetah | Bad Taste: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092610/ |
| 05:34.59 | bleetah | oh, no sorry.. braindead http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103873/ (US "dead or alive" |
| 05:35.24 | abug | does jackson do cameos in all of his movies? |
| 05:35.50 | bleetah | as far as i know |
| 05:36.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Dead Alive, that's it |
| 05:36.37 | bleetah | WoW needs an 'I kick ass for the Lord' quote |
| 05:36.41 | bleetah | if it don't have it |
| 05:36.52 | abug | wow needs more vibrating gnomes |
| 05:37.02 | seebs | Yeah. |
| 05:37.04 | bleetah | mmm more |
| 05:37.16 | seebs | They're sold to Taurens as "massagers". |
| 05:37.26 | abug | lucky gnomes |
| 05:37.46 | bleetah | mmm at least they'll be warm at night |
| 05:40.21 | seebs | Is there a cheap way to present a large amount of text in a WoW window, without hand-formatting? |
| 05:40.33 | seebs | I want to have a help tab in my UI, but I don't want to hand-format the text. |
| 05:40.42 | Kirkburn | I think I saw Bad Taste |
| 05:41.33 | Neuro_Medivh | I know I saw "Gay Hobbit Love", aka last 30 minutes of RotK |
| 05:41.52 | Kirkburn | Oooh, satire :) |
| 05:42.07 | Neuro_Medivh | well, if I really wanted satire, I'da called it "Brokeback Shire" |
| 05:42.29 | abug | that'd make a good rental |
| 05:42.37 | seebs | Hey, that's odd. They announced an extended maintenance downtime (starting at 3AM PST), but now it's back to saying 5AM PST. |
| 05:42.58 | Neuro_Medivh | and if you watch Clerks 2 (out on dvd tomorrow), they mention the same thing |
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| 05:47.27 | seebs | Er. |
| 05:47.34 | seebs | Clerks 2 has been out on DVD for a while. |
| 05:47.55 | seebs | In fact, I decided not to buy it at the friendly-local-gaming-store due to them having only the full screen version, so I got widescreen at target about an hour and a half ago. |
| 05:48.46 | abug | Neuro is caught in a warp bubble and slightly out of phase |
| 05:49.09 | seebs | Ahh. |
| 05:49.09 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, thought it came out tomorrow |
| 05:49.23 | seebs | I bought it because my roommate (the one who thought Feebles was disturbing) recommended it highly. |
| 05:49.33 | Neuro_Medivh | it's great |
| 05:49.44 | seebs | So I'll invite the wholesome roommate who grew up thinking people were reasonable and rational and who doesn't cuss competently to watch it. |
| 05:49.47 | seebs | I might be able to trick her. |
| 05:52.16 | seebs | So, back to my question. I want to display a lot of (pre-determined) text in a frame. What is the best way to do this? |
| 05:52.35 | Kirkburn | Lol, I like the engrish in this post: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/95289830.htm |
| 05:53.30 | seebs | So, I have a debugging character, who lives in Coldridge valley and kills L1 wolves to test addon features. |
| 05:53.52 | seebs | And I was working on something, and some guy tried to duel me. He's since said "what bitch" and "take it up the but". |
| 05:54.04 | seebs | I can only assume that he's trying very hard to spell some truly devastating remarks. |
| 05:54.53 | seebs | We really need a command like /afk or /dnd that marks you as "debugging something, please disregard my character's insane behavior". |
| 05:54.56 | seebs | *doh* |
| 05:54.59 | seebs | I should just roll PvP. |
| 05:57.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | roll your addon char on an rp realm :p |
| 05:57.42 | seebs | No, that's the thing. He's ON an RP realm. |
| 05:58.07 | seebs | Apparently, the starting zone is not as heavily roleplayed as some of the others. |
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| 06:00.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | ha |
| 06:00.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | take him to goldshire |
| 06:00.59 | abug | I lost something very special to me in goldshire |
| 06:01.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | show me on the doll where the tauren touched you |
| 06:01.43 | abug | omfg the doll has no pants |
| 06:03.10 | abug | ~goldshire |
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| 06:05.47 | abug | is it wrong to cyber with purl? |
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| 06:06.13 | abug | I don't wanna be a bad person |
| 06:10.15 | Thunder_Child | see abug |
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| 06:10.20 | Thunder_Child | ~see abug |
| 06:10.22 | purl | ACTION whispers to abug "You didn't see anything...." |
| 06:10.35 | abug | stay in our special window, purl |
| 06:11.46 | Stavmar | cladhaire I am looking forward to praid also. good luck in getting it done i am sure you are very busy in rl |
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| 06:18.15 | Kirkburn | *cough* link it and people might go there *cough* |
| 06:18.22 | Kirkburn | oops |
| 06:18.25 | Kirkburn | Dammit! |
| 06:18.30 | Kirkburn | I hadn't scrolled down |
| 06:18.52 | Kirkburn | So annoying when that happens :P |
| 06:18.55 | abug | you'll regret you scrolled down |
| 06:19.05 | Kirkburn | hehehe |
| 06:19.13 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 06:19.30 | Thunder_Child | i am sure some ppl regret coming to this channel |
| 06:21.37 | abug | purl told me that he hates me |
| 06:21.55 | seebs | Hmm. Is there any documentation about SimpleHTML objects, such as a list of supported features? |
| 06:22.05 | seebs | e.g., tables, alignment... Javascript... :P |
| 06:22.23 | abug | is that what chat windows are based on? I've always wondered |
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| 06:23.51 | Kirkburn | I have something to do with SimpleHTML in ClearFont, but I forget what function it specifically has |
| 06:24.05 | Kirkburn | (I didn't write it, Iriel did, the awesome guy that he is_ |
| 06:24.25 | Iriel | seebs - the wiki has some information |
| 06:24.47 | abug | and like manna from the heavens, Iriel descended upon us that day |
| 06:25.20 | kaiden | Iriel is overrated! *grins* *hides* |
| 06:25.35 | Garoun|Loupana | the 6% max health for imp lotp is so overpowered :) |
| 06:25.40 | Garoun|Loupana | I know why they nerfed it now |
| 06:25.41 | cogwheel | :| I can't believe I sunk to this level... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54891800&sid=1 |
| 06:26.20 | Thunder_Child | for shame cog, for shame |
| 06:26.57 | seebs | I found almost nothing on the wiki, maybe I looked in the wrong place. |
| 06:27.21 | abug | aww who reported the original poster |
| 06:27.33 | abug | such a waste of a mod's time when it'll just sink down anyway |
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| 06:28.03 | cogwheel | I think the problem is when some bozo comes along and actually posts a working method... :| |
| 06:28.27 | abug | oh I was just about to do that |
| 06:28.37 | cogwheel | :P |
| 06:28.39 | seebs | All I can find is a reference that it exists and that it's a subdiv of frame. |
| 06:30.40 | seebs | Wow, SimpleHTML really sucks. |
| 06:30.56 | seebs | It doesn't even word-wrap, apparently! Either that, or I did something genuinely heinous in my XML. |
| 06:32.24 | abug | does the GM ticket text box wrap? |
| 06:32.57 | abug | my memory is bad, I can't remember |
| 06:33.00 | seebs | I think so. |
| 06:33.08 | seebs | At least, I just write paragraphs in it without trouble. |
| 06:33.18 | Garoun|Loupana | lol my 60 druid can't use the Uldaman meeting stone to summon a party member |
| 06:33.20 | abug | might be a good thing to look at |
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| 06:36.16 | abug | arg can't find drysc's really old post about the g15 keyboard |
| 06:36.18 | cogwheel | as decent programmers as many ace developers are, they never seem to include documentation in their zip files |
| 06:36.25 | cogwheel | :( |
| 06:36.52 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 06:37.05 | seebs | Looks as though setting a pair of anchors failed miserably, but setting one anchor and a size works, and I get word wrap. |
| 06:37.33 | Iriel | seebs: SimpleHTML is largely simple, but does its job nicely once you figure out the correct level of abuse to subject it to |
| 06:38.03 | Thunder_Child | abug: http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/7548145.htm ? |
| 06:38.17 | seebs | Are there any actual docs on it? I couldn't find anything on WoWWiki. |
| 06:38.29 | seebs | I was hoping for support for <H1 HALIGN="CENTER">, but I'll live. |
| 06:38.42 | seebs | <CENTER> tags just get erased, along with anything they contain. |
| 06:39.59 | abug | hmm maybe it wasn't totally about the g15 keyboard |
| 06:45.33 | seebs | Huh. I put in my page, and it got rendered as plain text instead of HTML. *sigh* |
| 06:47.05 | cogwheel | I'd like to see him do Legorol|poop again... XD |
| 06:47.45 | Legorol|poof | have i done that before? |
| 06:47.56 | Legorol|poof | *blushes* |
| 06:47.59 | cogwheel | you corrected yourself quite quickly though :P |
| 06:48.00 | Legorol|poof | maybe i should change my away nick |
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| 06:50.24 | Stavmar | does anyone know of a new FuBar plugin for SuperMacro? http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1325 |
| 06:50.33 | Stavmar | maybe one in development? |
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| 06:53.29 | seebs | Argh. SimpleHTML works only with \'s in file names. I really hope that isn't a system dependency. |
| 06:53.49 | seebs | *sigh* I just wish everyone would use /'s. It's not as if they don't work on Windows, they just don't work in the DOS command shell. Which we aren't using. |
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| 06:59.33 | s|loup | hi |
| 07:00.11 | seebs | I am so sneaky. |
| 07:00.32 | seebs | My addon remembers the frame you were last on between loads now... And if you haven't got a saved tab, it starts you on help now. |
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| 07:22.27 | abug | my addon cures cancer |
| 07:22.30 | abug | true story |
| 07:24.26 | SP|Sorren | my addon gives cancer to the indivdual you least like. |
| 07:25.14 | abug | ooh a symbiotic relationship...I like it |
| 07:29.23 | Elkano | SP|Sorren, well then enjoy yours... ;) |
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| 07:42.13 | seebs | Wow, I'm dumb. |
| 07:42.31 | seebs | I did not realize that table.remove renumbered the rest of the table, so I was just doing the for loop of t[x] = t[x + 1]; |
| 07:42.47 | AnduinLothar | Pally dps: http://warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=32822 |
| 07:47.24 | SP|Sorren | i cursed so much |
| 07:47.33 | SP|Sorren | the first time i died to a paly in beta while HoJ'd |
| 07:49.02 | seebs | Wow. I've been browsing the UI/Macros forum, and a surprising number of people want things that my mod does. |
| 07:49.29 | SP|Sorren | what's your mod do? |
| 07:49.59 | Inside | Unfortunately, someone will come around and create a prettier looking mod with half the functionality of yours and will get 100x the attention. |
| 07:50.56 | Nom- | Lite versions ftw |
| 07:53.05 | seebs | Sorren: It emits chatter based on events. |
| 07:53.16 | seebs | I just use it for RP; my warlock is chatty and threatens mobs a lot. |
| 07:53.29 | seebs | But then people want things like "I want to whisper people when I cast blessings on them". |
| 07:53.33 | seebs | And it can do that. |
| 07:54.07 | Nom- | WTB: Bed & Pillow |
| 07:54.10 | Nom- | Zzzzzz |
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| 08:17.39 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, whoever suggested watching Lost Room, thanks... it was really good |
| 08:18.05 | Nom- | lol |
| 08:19.29 | Shadowed | Iriel: Did you do the SecurePieButton comment in SecureTemplates? |
| 08:19.43 | Iriel | Probably |
| 08:19.56 | Shadowed | well if you care, you have a typo in it. "SecureStaetHeader" |
| 08:20.34 | Iriel | Kirov just pointed that out too |
| 08:20.42 | Shadowed | haha oops |
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| 08:37.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | is there any page on the wiki explining the diferances from a secure template and a normal one |
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| 08:56.58 | SP|Sorren | anyone happen to know the event that's fired when someone joins a battleground (not you)? |
| 08:58.05 | Thunder_Child | OMG_NUBZ_JOINING? |
| 08:58.08 | Arrowmaster | raid_roster_update? |
| 08:58.23 | SP|Sorren | need alliance too |
| 08:58.33 | Nargiddley | i would guess CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 08:58.34 | Thunder_Child | mine was alliance |
| 08:58.43 | SP|Sorren | ahh, so if i combine the two |
| 08:58.43 | Nargiddley | them joining the raid is that at least |
| 08:58.51 | Arrowmaster | there might be something else |
| 08:59.08 | SP|Sorren | im thinking it might be UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_SCORE |
| 08:59.13 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 09:08.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | TC_sleeping yours was allience only |
| 09:12.24 | Kaso | Howcome i can never get keybindings to work >.< |
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| 09:15.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | does this OnEvent: function(self,event,...) mean that the arg1 and arg2 are send on the event handle instead of global ? |
| 09:17.42 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/3429 -- Whats wrong :< |
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| 09:37.57 | AnduinLothar | prefix your variable names with "BINDING_HEADER_" and "BINDING_NAME_" |
| 09:44.34 | Kaso | ah ok |
| 09:49.10 | Kaso | what the hell ^_- |
| 09:49.57 | Kaso | enchant lines on tooltips, the GetTextColor() is yellow, but the GetText() is pre-fixed tieh |cffffffff |
| 09:49.59 | Kaso | why did they do that |
| 09:50.09 | SP|Sorren | does ace have a dump function? |
| 09:50.19 | SP|Sorren | something's taken over devtool's /dump :( |
| 09:50.35 | Kaso | do a grep of your addons directory for "/dump" |
| 09:51.26 | SP|Sorren | good idea |
| 09:51.57 | SP|Sorren | ;O |
| 09:52.03 | SP|Sorren | the newest aceconsole has /dump |
| 09:52.13 | SP|Sorren | devtools dump >>>>> though :/ |
| 10:00.38 | Kaso | AnduinLothar |
| 10:01.21 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/3430 |
| 10:01.42 | Kaso | Still isnt working :< |
| 10:01.50 | AnduinLothar | use your old xml |
| 10:01.57 | Kaso | oh? |
| 10:02.25 | Kaso | i see i see |
| 10:17.15 | SP|Sorren | how do you set string.format to fill blanks with 0s? |
| 10:17.43 | SP|Sorren | like string.format( "%4d", 5 ) => 0005 |
| 10:18.10 | AnduinLothar | %.2f |
| 10:18.14 | AnduinLothar | 4 |
| 10:18.53 | SP|Sorren | i thought %.4f = 5.0000 |
| 10:20.34 | Tem | you want %4.f |
| 10:21.02 | AnduinLothar | that fills with spaces |
| 10:21.30 | AnduinLothar | prolly have to do a gsub after |
| 10:22.12 | SP|Sorren | i found it |
| 10:22.19 | SP|Sorren | its %04f |
| 10:22.32 | AnduinLothar | there you go |
| 10:22.46 | SP|Sorren | google knows all, as long as you know the right way to ask :/ |
| 10:23.38 | zenzio | yeah, that's usually my problem |
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| 10:26.58 | seebs | Man, I wish I'd been here about 10 minutes ago. I knew about the 0 flag. :) |
| 10:32.08 | SP|Sorren | why weren't you here when I needed you? QQirl |
| 10:37.14 | seebs | Off actually playing the game for the first time in something like a month. :) |
| 10:37.31 | seebs | Bleh. Chronos isn't letting me disenchant due to alleged attempts to perform an action only available to the Blizzard UI. |
| 10:38.18 | AnduinLothar | right click |
| 10:38.43 | AnduinLothar | it's not Chronos, it's WearMe |
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| 10:53.17 | seebs | Ahh. |
| 10:53.32 | seebs | BTW, DamageMeters gets really odd if you try to run it without Sea. |
| 10:54.08 | AnduinLothar | why's that |
| 10:54.12 | seebs | Dunno. |
| 10:54.18 | seebs | Maybe it was something else. |
| 10:54.29 | seebs | But Blizz's UI is warning me about basically every mod EXCEPT WearMe. |
| 10:54.33 | AnduinLothar | cosmos had a Dm bug yesterday |
| 10:54.39 | seebs | So I disabled Sea, and logged in, and Chronos got REALLY weird. |
| 10:54.47 | seebs | Yeah, I know, I downloaded your fix, and it was fine after that. |
| 10:54.49 | AnduinLothar | the blocked popup is dumb and oftenw rong |
| 10:55.09 | seebs | Then I removed Sea, and got an error about Sea being a nil value or something similar from DM, then a bunch of nil accesses at line 1275. |
| 10:56.11 | seebs | I have turned off WearMe and will see if that fixes things; actually, now I'm trying to feed a pet. |
| 10:56.54 | seebs | Hmm. Well, I turned off WearMe, and I still get the dumb block message about Chronos. But right click works, so good enough for me. |
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| 11:10.34 | phyber | is anyone able to suggest a [stfu] option for the new macro system in WoW US? |
| 11:10.59 | phyber | "not ready yet" errors and speech are irritating, since you can't check for a trinket to be out of cooldown. |
| 11:11.25 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros |
| 11:11.43 | AnduinLothar | ah i misread |
| 11:11.45 | AnduinLothar | nm |
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| 11:20.45 | Kaso | im sure i remeber Slouken saying he was going to stop error reports from macros all toogether |
| 11:21.12 | Tem | No |
| 11:21.12 | Tem | it's been discussed ad nausium |
| 11:21.12 | Tem | it's not getting added |
| 11:21.16 | Tem | write an addon |
| 11:21.19 | Kaso | ah |
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| 12:02.48 | Kaso | Woot, finished my addon after what was far too long spent coding :< |
| 12:02.55 | Kaso | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6505 /proud |
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| 12:16.15 | zenzio | I'm getting an obscene amount of gold whispers these days :-o |
| 12:16.53 | clad|sleep | Kaso: Wow thats awesome =) |
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| 12:24.05 | Kaso | Why thank you :> |
| 12:24.37 | Kaso | Im quite chuffed with myself, its the first addon that ive written which i think is actually pretty useful :> |
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| 12:31.12 | phyber | Kaso: that does look interesting :) |
| 12:31.54 | Kaso | Ooh, accepted also :> |
| 12:32.43 | Kaso | gogo download it if you've got time, Any error reports would be awesome, im sure itll have some bugs |
| 12:37.45 | zenzio | I can't seem to see the screenshots... wonder if I messed up AdBlock or something o_O |
| 12:38.22 | Kaso | hmm |
| 12:38.23 | Kaso | could be |
| 12:38.26 | Kaso | working ok for me |
| 12:40.29 | zenzio | must be something on my end anyway, same problem with any mod's screenshots |
| 12:42.24 | zenzio | oh right... wasn't logged in |
| 12:44.42 | Kaso | ah, i guess it only shows screenshots to those logged in in Lite Mode |
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| 12:54.17 | zenzio | I'm seeing an awful lot of "Missing header! (quest design..." in my quest log after 2.0 |
| 12:54.30 | zenzio | only one of them at a time, but they happen often |
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| 13:03.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | wow thats wierd lol |
| 13:04.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | yellow lines whit white text :P |
| 13:05.53 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 13:06.04 | zenzio | heya |
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| 13:11.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | hi |
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| 13:34.27 | Mikma | ckknight: hi noob |
| 13:34.57 | ckknight | I'm no noob |
| 13:35.17 | Mikma | prove me wrong. code us some super-duper-addon |
| 13:35.27 | Mikma | oh wait, you already have xD goooo Cartographer haha |
| 13:35.44 | Corrodias | yeah, fix up all the addons i use so i can get back to playing. that'll prove you are not a noob. |
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| 13:50.34 | zenzio | your inability to play without them makes you a noob =D (j/k) |
| 13:51.25 | Kaso | i reallly noticed howmuch people learn to rely on addons the other day at nef |
| 13:51.40 | Kaso | On the priest call the tank got 7 stacks of the debuff |
| 13:51.49 | Teomyr | oO |
| 13:51.55 | Kaso | because noone had nice addons to Shout at them or stop them from healing |
| 13:52.03 | axxo | the problem is ppl don't learn encounters |
| 13:52.12 | axxo | they just learn what button to bash |
| 13:52.23 | zenzio | Kaso: no raidleader that could tell them on voice chat either? |
| 13:52.38 | Josh_Borke | no one could type "DONOT HEAL NOW"? |
| 13:52.50 | Teomyr | we've had chromaggus on farm status for months, since this week we've been unable to kill him because of the lack of decursive/detox |
| 13:53.05 | Kaso | Well they could, but i guess teh raidleaders werent ready for that because theyve also had addons to do the job :> |
| 13:53.09 | zenzio | Josh_Borke: varies from guild to guild, but I've noticed that in my guild, using raid chat is futile |
| 13:53.31 | phyber | Teomyr: easily fixed with a [target=mouseover] macro. |
| 13:53.47 | phyber | mouseover frame, press your decurse macro, continue. |
| 13:53.49 | phyber | rapid decursing. |
| 13:54.07 | Teomyr | phyber: nice, thanks :D |
| 13:54.30 | phyber | Teomyr: so, it would be like, /cast [target=mouseover] Decurse Spell |
| 13:54.37 | phyber | :) |
| 13:54.43 | Kaso | Anyway its not like they were incabable of doing it themselves, the second priest call was fine, its just the they didnt expect it, they never had to before |
| 13:55.19 | Teomyr | thanks. i would have used clique or something like your macro if i had the time to setup my interface, but we were in a hurry :D |
| 13:55.20 | sysrage | Clique owns for decursing |
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| 13:57.59 | |stefan| | Hey =) i'm kinda new at this =) But when i've created a window through the xml file. and i want to let's say fetch a variable and make a checkbox get checked based on that value. how would i do that ? |
| 13:58.54 | Kaso | in your lua you need to do <Checkbox name here>:SetChecked(true) |
| 13:59.02 | Kaso | or false if you want it to be unchecked :> |
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| 14:00.19 | Kevorkian | good morning |
| 14:00.33 | |stefan| | Kaso yep figured that one out. |
| 14:00.34 | Josh_Borke | morning Kevorkian |
| 14:00.47 | Kaso | whats the problem then? |
| 14:00.50 | |stefan| | Kaso how do i get a name in text fron a checkbox and send it to a function ? |
| 14:01.02 | Josh_Borke | <checkbox name>:GetText(0 |
| 14:01.33 | |stefan| | i tried to use this:GetName() but that didn't work |
| 14:02.05 | Kaso | You named your checkbox in your XML. take that name and use it in your lua ? |
| 14:02.55 | |stefan| | well the problem i have is that i can't quite figure out how to set the options in my window from the lua file from the saved variables =) |
| 14:04.55 | Kaso | on, basically when the ADDON_LOADED event fires with arg1="<Your addon name>" you need to just go through all your checkboxs doing something liek MyCheckBox:SetChecked(MySavedVars.isEnabled) then if isEnabled is true the checkbox will be checked |
| 14:05.39 | |stefan| | can i do that from the lua file ? |
| 14:05.49 | Kaso | Yes |
| 14:06.15 | |stefan| | do i call it like framename.checkboxname:SetChecked(variable); ? |
| 14:06.45 | Kaso | well, depends how you layed it out, Usually itll be FrameNameCheckBoxName: |
| 14:06.54 | Kaso | if you called you checkbox $parentCheckBoxName |
| 14:07.09 | |stefan| | haven't called it by $parent so =) then it's just the checkboxname then. |
| 14:07.20 | Kaso | indeed it is |
| 14:07.30 | |stefan| | i'll try that =) |
| 14:07.59 | |stefan| | just a quick question. if i've changed the location of my "chat editbox" is there a fast way to reset it to default ? |
| 14:16.11 | Kaso | ChatFrameEditBox:SetPoint() |
| 14:16.29 | Kaso | if you dont know about SetPoint look it up on WowWiki's Widgit API section |
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| 14:30.24 | Industrial | Howlong til the maintenance ends? |
| 14:30.34 | Industrial | Howlong is a chinese *badoom tisch* |
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| 14:33.11 | malreth | I... |
| 14:33.13 | malreth | LIVE... |
| 14:33.15 | malreth | ... |
| 14:33.19 | malreth | AGAIN... |
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| 14:34.12 | Josh_Borke | malreth: wb |
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| 14:34.40 | malreth | THAT'S gratitude for you! |
| 14:36.38 | Yazilliclick | Hey, is there a good developers channel to ask questions with regards to addon development? (first time here :) ) |
| 14:36.54 | malreth | yes, here is a good place |
| 14:36.59 | malreth | ask away, citizen |
| 14:38.11 | |stefan| | Kaso i know about setpoint =) would ChatFrameEditBox:ClearAllPoints() reset the editbox to it's default ? |
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| 14:38.27 | malreth | hello, ckk |
| 14:38.31 | Yazilliclick | Well that was easy :) I'm working on a titan panel plugin (first addon I've ever done) and am trying to figure out the order events fire in. mainly because I have some saved variables between sessions and need to know when they're populated and can access them. What's the best event to use to get at those from the start or such? |
| 14:38.43 | ckknight_ | ew, Titan! |
| 14:38.55 | malreth | don't know Titan, sorry... |
| 14:39.17 | malreth | but in general, your saved variables will be available after an ADDON_LOADED event where arg1 == your addon name |
| 14:39.24 | malreth | or after the VARIABLES_LOADED event |
| 14:39.32 | malreth | so that's one place to start |
| 14:39.35 | Yazilliclick | ok |
| 14:39.45 | Mery | your saved variables are loaded after ADDON_LOADED is fired with arg1 == "AddOnFolderName" (or the first ADDON_LOADED that your addon gets) |
| 14:39.54 | malreth | i'd recommend using the ADDON_LOADED event |
| 14:40.18 | malreth | but check through any Titan development tutorials that you can find |
| 14:40.41 | malreth | because Titan panel may have a custom callback that lets you know when your variables are ready |
| 14:41.01 | malreth | oooooor... |
| 14:41.09 | malreth | develop a FuBar plugin instead |
| 14:41.20 | malreth | because FuBar > Titan |
| 14:41.20 | ckknight_ | I've found Titan to not have very good documentation. That may have changed, but that's a big reason I started FuBar |
| 14:41.38 | malreth | and i'm not just saying that because the developer is here |
| 14:41.49 | ckknight | I could leave and he'd still say that |
| 14:41.55 | ckknight | granted, I do have spies. |
| 14:41.55 | Yazilliclick | Oh titan has crap for documentation and every addon I've downloaded for it is done completely differently |
| 14:41.59 | ckknight | watching his every move... |
| 14:42.27 | ckknight | Yazilliclick, so why put yourself through the pain? |
| 14:42.33 | Kevorkian | just out of curiousity yazilli, what's your addon do? |
| 14:42.43 | ckknight | smile for the cameras, malreth |
| 14:42.58 | Industrial | ok so |
| 14:43.02 | Industrial | I went to my server forums |
| 14:43.11 | Industrial | and people were dumbshits on it |
| 14:43.13 | Yazilliclick | I just like the look of titan to fubar, at least out of the box. Never got fubar looking how I want. The addon I'm making is an honor tracker. |
| 14:43.17 | Kevorkian | oh noes! |
| 14:43.22 | Industrial | acting all high and mighty cause they raid naxxs woooo :| |
| 14:43.40 | ckknight | Yazilliclick, oh, get FuTextures. There's tons of different skins |
| 14:43.47 | ckknight | including ones to make it look like a Titan ripoff |
| 14:43.50 | Industrial | 'you dont count' 'you are unknown' etc |
| 14:44.11 | malreth | Industrial: tell them to sit on a pickle |
| 14:44.17 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:44.49 | Yazilliclick | Well I have fu textures. I think it may come down moreso to the font colors being so varied in the panel but I'm sure that could all be tweaked if I was willing to spend the time. |
| 14:45.06 | ckknight | yea, pretty much |
| 14:45.20 | malreth | well, whatever floats your boat |
| 14:45.30 | Yazilliclick | I don't have a boat :( |
| 14:45.40 | malreth | here, have this one |
| 14:46.09 | malreth | it's freshly scooped out |
| 14:46.13 | Yazilliclick | lol sweet thanks |
| 14:46.24 | Industrial | hmm |
| 14:46.26 | malreth | btw, hungry? |
| 14:46.29 | Industrial | PST = GMT - 8 ? |
| 14:46.44 | malreth | CST = GMT - 6 so that sounds right |
| 14:46.48 | Yazilliclick | yeah |
| 14:47.17 | malreth | Yazilliclick: yeah, you're hungry or were you agreeing with Ind? |
| 14:47.51 | Yazilliclick | not hungry sorry, just ate :) |
| 14:47.59 | malreth | suit yourself then |
| 14:48.00 | Industrial | so 4 more hours til servers are up :( |
| 14:48.41 | Yazilliclick | 4 more hours if they're on time. Thankfully maintenance is always during the time I'm at work :) |
| 14:49.11 | Industrial | its during 2-8pm here so thats exactly when im back from school :| |
| 14:50.08 | malreth | move west, Ind |
| 14:50.21 | malreth | It doesn't have to be America |
| 14:50.30 | malreth | I hear Japan is nice |
| 14:50.49 | Industrial | hm japan, yes |
| 14:51.03 | malreth | cheap seafood |
| 14:51.17 | Industrial | woop woop woop woop |
| 14:51.18 | malreth | and all of the girls wear skirts... IT'S TRUE! |
| 14:51.28 | malreth | even in winter |
| 14:51.45 | Industrial | oh yeah I totaly dig the cute asian chicks :P |
| 14:52.05 | malreth | meeeeee tooo |
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| 14:55.06 | Kaso | |stefan| ClearAllPoints() simply removes the exisiting anchors, allowing the frame to be moved freely, it wont reset it to default. |
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| 14:56.06 | xlvii | any dutch people who could quickly translate a phrase for me? |
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| 15:01.23 | FlAWD | http://babelfish.altavista.com/ ftw |
| 15:01.30 | malreth | ugh |
| 15:01.40 | Teomyr | argh |
| 15:02.28 | Kevorkian | babelfish is always fun. translating and translating it back usually gives you something akin to the things that charles manson says |
| 15:02.37 | FlAWD | lmao |
| 15:02.48 | Teomyr | yeah, it gets funnier with every iteration :D |
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| 15:04.31 | malreth | kinda like the French |
| 15:05.18 | Horrorstruck | is there an addon that translates from one language to the other automatic? :D (for example i type in english and autotranslates to another language and send it)?? |
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| 15:05.30 | malreth | none that i know of |
| 15:05.38 | Kevorkian | there's a l33t translator |
| 15:05.50 | Horrorstruck | have a link? |
| 15:06.04 | Kevorkian | nah, but I've seen at least one in the wild |
| 15:08.41 | Kevorkian | if there isn't one searchable there's a ton of l33t translators for IRC that you could probably crib the code from for an easy one of your own |
| 15:09.03 | malreth | MoM ɹoÉŸ ɹoʇÉÆ®suÉɹʇ uÊop-Çpı̣sdn uÉ op pÆ®noÉ¥s noÊŽ |
| 15:09.30 | Kevorkian | fancy |
| 15:09.47 | malreth | every mac can do that, did you know? |
| 15:09.55 | malreth | it's totally true |
| 15:09.58 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 15:09.59 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 15:10.02 | Kevorkian | sadly my education did not include that little bit of trivia |
| 15:10.03 | malreth | MUTHA! |
| 15:10.11 | Kevorkian | ~emulate malreth |
| 15:10.12 | purl | as long as it's not anal-related, it's fine |
| 15:10.22 | Horrorstruck | hmm |
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| 15:11.08 | Horrorstruck | i am not talking for irc |
| 15:11.09 | Horrorstruck | :P |
| 15:11.12 | Horrorstruck | :D |
| 15:11.30 | Horrorstruck | i am talking in chat for wow |
| 15:11.49 | Josh_Borke | Horrorstruck: translators suck because they just well suck |
| 15:11.57 | Kevorkian | horrorstruck: I understand that, but the code a l33t translater for IRC would do exactly the same thing for WoW |
| 15:12.12 | Josh_Borke | Horrorstruck: translators = hash lookups |
| 15:12.46 | Horrorstruck | ok i will search for l33t translater and find out more info |
| 15:12.46 | malreth | well, human language translators can't use just a simple hash lookup |
| 15:12.59 | Josh_Borke | malreth: true. that's why they suck even more |
| 15:13.03 | malreth | because you've got grammar and sentence structure to worry about |
| 15:13.37 | Horrorstruck | thax and <Josh_Borke> translators do suck but its a good solution to comunicate with europian girls :P |
| 15:13.39 | malreth | you could do what other online games do (console ones, specifically) and have a list of commonly used phrases |
| 15:13.57 | Kevorkian | horrorstruck: you just need to speak the language of love |
| 15:13.59 | malreth | Horrorstruck: girls would be more impressed if you actually learned the language |
| 15:14.10 | malreth | they might dig the accent |
| 15:14.11 | Horrorstruck | hehe |
| 15:14.19 | Horrorstruck | cu gyus thanx |
| 15:14.24 | malreth | my advice, learn a texan accent |
| 15:14.37 | malreth | a real one... not an exaggerated one |
| 15:14.39 | Josh_Borke | girls are crazy for country boys |
| 15:15.05 | malreth | the only place that doesn't work... Texas |
| 15:15.08 | Josh_Borke | haven't you heard that song? |
| 15:15.14 | malreth | but everywhere else, you're golden! |
| 15:15.29 | Josh_Borke | dunno how that'd affect europeans though... |
| 15:16.06 | malreth | one of my friends went to England for vacation once and said he had chicks hitting on him cause of his Texan drawl |
| 15:16.19 | malreth | either that or they were drunk... or he was drunk... or both |
| 15:19.50 | Industrial | not an uncommon thing in GB |
| 15:19.58 | Industrial | ;P |
| 15:21.29 | malreth | i didn't think he was really all that great looking of a guy, either... but then again, it *was* England... |
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| 15:24.01 | Kaso | I just wrote a peice of code that had old(school) in it, made me laugh when i read back over it |
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| 15:30.16 | malreth | hmm... http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 15:30.55 | malreth | a wow addon updater that works with WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming |
| 15:31.23 | Xuerian | 0.o |
| 15:31.37 | malreth | source code is available... written in python |
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| 15:33.50 | Xuerian | Nifty... |
| 15:34.02 | Xuerian | Who wrotes it. <.< |
| 15:34.23 | malreth | some dude |
| 15:34.32 | malreth | he posted a thread on the wowace forum |
| 15:34.45 | Xuerian | Hm.... |
| 15:35.09 | Kaso | Ah Wurm |
| 15:35.16 | Kaso | He's a guy from Somethingawful |
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| 15:36.48 | Xuerian | Looks profitable, at least.... So long as it doesn't tweak the addons directory like the others have managed to do |
| 15:36.55 | Xuerian | s/profitable/promising/ |
| 15:37.03 | Xuerian | Sorry, inner teladi showing through. |
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| 15:39.54 | Kaso | I could never get it to work because of my silly university proxies |
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| 15:54.43 | Malivil | thoughts on there being a mini-patch today? |
| 15:55.15 | NeT[LD] | mm |
| 15:55.24 | NeT[LD] | mini one then |
| 15:55.36 | NeT[LD] | servers should be up in 2 hours |
| 15:55.37 | NeT[LD] | ? |
| 15:55.42 | Kaso | fixing all the naggling little bugs |
| 15:55.42 | Malivil | no |
| 15:55.57 | NeT[LD] | when are they going up |
| 15:56.07 | Malivil | 3 more hours |
| 15:56.09 | NeT[LD] | ok |
| 15:56.16 | jaxdahl | they had extended maintenance |
| 15:56.18 | jaxdahl | so who knows |
| 15:56.25 | Malivil | they SAY 3 more hours |
| 15:56.32 | NeT[LD] | we are pulling 400k page a hour right now it s nothing near as the last week :p |
| 15:56.47 | Malivil | mmm |
| 15:56.52 | Malivil | thats good |
| 15:56.54 | sysrage | sure as hell hope they're fixing the loot bug |
| 15:57.05 | Osagasu | What loot bug? |
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| 15:57.24 | sysrage | at least on zul'jin every once in awhile you'll get stuck looting and it'll boot you from game after like 15 min of being stuck |
| 15:57.42 | Osagasu | That's lag. |
| 15:57.47 | Malivil | only time that happened to me was when the server crashed |
| 15:57.52 | sysrage | it's a bug with their loot DB |
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| 15:59.45 | Josh_Borke | wow, activity! |
| 16:00.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | i hope they fix the missing pet bar inside instances :P |
| 16:04.50 | sysrage | ya, i hope they fix the mage pet bar period. disappears even outside instances |
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| 16:13.43 | Industrial | anyone tried that WUU yet? |
| 16:13.51 | zenzio | WUU? |
| 16:13.58 | Industrial | I can get it to download off wowace but not wowi |
| 16:14.19 | Industrial | < malreth> hmm... http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
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| 16:34.21 | Kaso | Industrial ive tried wuu but couldnt get it to work past my uni firewall |
| 16:34.27 | Kaso | but from all reports it works well |
| 16:39.39 | Scre3m | what is wuu? |
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| 16:40.28 | Kaso | http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
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| 16:41.11 | Scre3m | cool |
| 16:42.42 | malreth | perl, wuu is WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 16:43.07 | beerke | local _, _, itemid = string.find(link, "^item:(%d+):(%d+)") should give me itemid right ? |
| 16:44.46 | malreth | purl, wuu is WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 16:44.47 | purl | okay, malreth |
| 16:44.53 | malreth | helps if i get his name right... |
| 16:45.03 | malreth | ~wuu |
| 16:45.04 | purl | [wuu] WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automatically from WoWAce, WoWI, UIWoW, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 16:45.14 | malreth | ~botsnack |
| 16:45.14 | purl | thanks, malreth |
| 16:45.24 | Industrial | bblfood |
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| 16:55.25 | hanzzon | ckknight; ping ;-) |
| 16:55.41 | hanzzon | maybe something you should incorporate in the addon info text on the same page... |
| 16:55.42 | hanzzon | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4609#cmnt21115 |
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| 17:16.47 | nescio | Since the newest patch, my wow is intermittently crashing with the following error... ACCESS_VIOLATION, "The memory could not be read", in module d3d9.dll, function Direct3DShaderValidator. I have the latest Video and DirectX Drivers... anyone else having similar issue, seen this before? |
| 17:17.20 | Voide | Missing a file ? |
| 17:18.00 | nescio | ? |
| 17:18.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | reinstal video drivers >.> |
| 17:18.39 | Voide | had the same problem just got the file from a other wow-game... |
| 17:18.40 | nescio | I'll try that, but I didn't have a problem before.. |
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| 17:37.02 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 17:37.04 | purl | ACTION shakes its fist at the forums |
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| 17:55.09 | Belinar | howdy all |
| 17:56.38 | Josh_Borke | bah, how do i list the users on a channel in irssi? |
| 17:56.53 | wereHamster | ./names |
| 17:56.58 | wereHamster | or ./name |
| 17:57.02 | Josh_Borke | ah ha! thank you! |
| 17:57.32 | Josh_Borke | now where are the mods to move my addon... |
| 17:59.13 | cogwheel | ~seen cairenn |
| 17:59.30 | purl | cairenn <n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 10h 14m 7s ago, saying: 'nymbia: ;)'. |
| 17:59.50 | bleetah | k, no client patch today folks |
| 18:00.05 | cogwheel | Was there ever any indication there would be? |
| 18:00.42 | sysrage | have they said what is getting patched? |
| 18:00.48 | bleetah | nope, well, just the slightly longer maint window |
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| 18:01.06 | cogwheel | sysrage: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54916062&sid=1 |
| 18:01.09 | bleetah | if anything got patched, merely server side |
| 18:01.18 | cogwheel | 2.0.2 shouldn't be coming out until around the time BC does... |
| 18:01.19 | sysrage | ty cog |
| 18:01.37 | bleetah | nah, that's not today, cog |
| 18:01.40 | bleetah | still 2.0.1 |
| 18:01.41 | sysrage | oh, i don't mean 2.0.2 |
| 18:01.45 | sysrage | i mean what's gettin patched today |
| 18:01.54 | cogwheel | there's no patch today... |
| 18:02.05 | sysrage | ... |
| 18:02.17 | sysrage | servers are getting patched |
| 18:02.41 | cogwheel | this might have something to do with it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=55975614&sid=1 |
| 18:02.51 | bleetah | not too suprising there, if they wanna patch the client before christmas, i'd be holding out until the most reasonable last possible moment (ie, next tues) |
| 18:03.12 | cogwheel | That wouldn't be very smart... |
| 18:03.50 | wereHamster | what does '/run debugprofilestart(); ChatFrame1:AddMessage(debugprofilestop())' return on your computers? |
| 18:04.58 | abug | what's /run? |
| 18:05.05 | cogwheel | same as /script |
| 18:05.20 | abug | aliases ftl |
| 18:05.40 | cogwheel | those three characters can make all the difference in the world :P |
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| 18:07.25 | Kaso | doesnt matter so much you cant really use scripts in macros much anymore, but i remeber the good old days fitting huge conditinal statements into 255 char |
| 18:09.46 | abug | I hear women prefer the longer macros anyway |
| 18:10.11 | cogwheel | Most of my complex macros are still usable (and the rest are much simpler now). One I rememeber set up a frame to take screenshots every so often. The first click set up the frame and subsequent clicks would toggle it on and off |
| 18:10.34 | Josh_Borke | confirm: /cast [target=mouseover,nomodifier] <spell> is correct? |
| 18:10.53 | cogwheel | that is correct syntax |
| 18:10.53 | Josh_Borke | or do i need to read more? |
| 18:11.12 | cogwheel | whether it's semantically what you want is another question :P |
| 18:12.07 | wereHamster | here the script returns ~3300-4000, but I remember when running WoW under wine I had to divide the return value by 1'000'000 to get the same values as under windows |
| 18:12.33 | wereHamster | .. and now I'm wondering if wine still has this problem |
| 18:12.44 | Josh_Borke | yea, it'd be: /cast [targe=mouseover,nomodifier] Dispel Magic /cast [target=mouseover,modifier=alt] Abolish Disease type thing |
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| 18:14.29 | Massa_movie | Hello everyone |
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| 18:15.08 | Maldivia | uhh... pet support is being added to the raid headers... no more state header madness :) |
| 18:15.45 | bleetah | ...! |
| 18:16.09 | abug | now all we need is clickable bubblewrap |
| 18:16.11 | Josh_Borke | Maldivia: that's good news |
| 18:17.08 | Maldivia | well, I suspect it's unitsuffix support... finally I can reimplement that feature of my raid ui |
| 18:19.25 | wereHamster | does anyone at least know which windows API function debugprofile*() uses? |
| 18:20.06 | Maldivia | GetTicks? |
| 18:20.33 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 18:20.35 | purl | ACTION shakes its fist at the forums |
| 18:21.17 | Kevorkian | ~emulate kevorkian |
| 18:21.18 | purl | Touch not the sheep and ye shall not yourself be touched. |
| 18:21.18 | abug | ~goldshire |
| 18:21.20 | purl | where the resolve of men is truly tested, and Act I of Brokeback WoW begins... |
| 18:23.13 | Maldivia | Tem: it seems my pet problem will be gone in 2.0.2 :) |
| 18:23.23 | Tem | :) |
| 18:23.27 | Gnarfoz | does Toadkiller/Azetoth ever come here? (the current dev of Autobar) |
| 18:24.00 | abug | ~whelps |
| 18:24.02 | purl | Whelps, LEFT SIDE!! Even side, MANY WHELPS!! NOW HANDLE IT!! |
| 18:24.11 | Maldivia | tem: according to sloukens lates post in the 2.0.2 thread, pet pullouts will be in the default UI, meaning it's probably added to the raid header :) |
| 18:24.39 | Tem | not that I know of |
| 18:24.48 | Maldivia | "Yep, on the other hand it'll be much easier to use the pullouts - there will be a way to easily grab pullouts by class, by group, or all the pets, and their positions and layout will be saved between sessions." |
| 18:25.25 | Tem | The blizzard UI doesn't use the raid header |
| 18:25.38 | seebs | Hey, anyone here use Bongos? |
| 18:25.54 | Maldivia | ack... |
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| 18:27.40 | abug | I use bongos |
| 18:27.51 | bleetah | gmorn al |
| 18:27.57 | abug | I play them well |
| 18:27.58 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 18:28.05 | Maldivia | Tem: ohh well, I can still hope for unitsuffix support :) |
| 18:28.06 | bleetah | baaaaaa |
| 18:28.32 | Tem | Maldivia, I think you have a better chance at the state header resizing itself |
| 18:28.52 | AnduinLothar | lol@ curse down again |
| 18:28.57 | seebs | Heh. |
| 18:29.04 | abug | wait curse was actually up? |
| 18:29.08 | Maldivia | Yeah, since theres already similar functionality :| |
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| 18:29.11 | seebs | I switched to using Bongos, but now I have neither XP nor Reputation bars, and I don't know where they went. |
| 18:29.12 | Maldivia | one can always hope |
| 18:29.21 | Mikma | curse is now amazing maze of s*it after the update |
| 18:29.25 | Mikma | can't find anything there |
| 18:29.29 | Antiarc | seebs: Maybe just install XPBarNone |
| 18:29.45 | bleetah | AnduinLothar: heh... btw, i was calling you guys names all last week, until I discovered the port 8087 thing yesterday. I take it all back ;) |
| 18:29.47 | sysrage | mikma: learn to search? |
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| 18:30.16 | Mikma | sysrage: what does search have anything to do with the matter that it's messy site? |
| 18:30.25 | Maldivia | Mikma: select World of Warcraft, Select Addons, enter in search field, hit enter ? |
| 18:30.37 | sysrage | doesn't seem messy to me |
| 18:30.55 | Mikma | V1 was the best ever |
| 18:31.08 | abug | I like it messy |
| 18:31.17 | seebs | The docs imply that it ought to be putting an XP bar SOMEWHERE. I just can't find it. |
| 18:31.38 | abug | try scaling your UI down? |
| 18:31.41 | Josh_Borke | kinky |
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| 18:33.45 | seebs | Wow. |
| 18:33.54 | seebs | I just realized, maybe I shouldn't have disabled Bongos_XP. |
| 18:34.10 | seebs | I am starting to wonder if the roommates have been putting crack in my breakfast. |
| 18:34.39 | abug | ~crack |
| 18:34.40 | purl | ACTION thinks the party is getting out of hand |
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| 18:37.38 | Massaimah | Any chance somoene might help this "noob". Only started dev. (for wow) past weekend after 4years of inactivity in the field. So am quite lost :P |
| 18:37.53 | Josh_Borke | go ahead and ask, any code can be pasted to the site in teh topic |
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| 18:39.55 | Massaimah | Just downloaded a couple editors and am reading/working through em right now. Took a look as example at necrosis (addon i use most and would love to remodel for other classes). But can't find the tga files and so included within that mod for the other classes. |
| 18:40.18 | Josh_Borke | Massaimah: there is already a generic necrosis in the works, see Henge in the ace svn. |
| 18:40.40 | Massaimah | k i'll take a look right away |
| 18:40.54 | Kaso | Oh man! the stopped you using other languages though SendChatMessage :< |
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| 18:44.46 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, shaman gear is now dropping on the alliance side? |
| 18:44.54 | Josh_Borke | yes, old news :-P |
| 18:44.57 | Gnarfoz | has been for a week |
| 18:45.05 | Neuro_Medivh | Haven't been raiding |
| 18:45.09 | Neuro_Medivh | that's funny |
| 18:45.21 | Gnarfoz | it works the other way around, too |
| 18:45.23 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 18:45.40 | Neuro_Medivh | Yeah, I figured, it's just amusing that it's dropping now, when it's useless |
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| 18:46.52 | Massaimah | Well ye can always stock the BoE parts for rerolls :) |
| 18:47.06 | Josh_Borke | all 2 of them? o.O |
| 18:47.18 | Athaeus | Could anyone enlighten me on the new secure template stuff? I used to have a normal button (you know, the default red ones, used for ok and cancel and such) which casted a spell. Now it broke and I'd like to fix it, from which frame should I inherit my button? |
| 18:49.14 | cogwheel | Inherit from both SecureActionButtonTemplate and whatever button template you're using (I assume UIPanelButtonTemplate or UIPanelButtonTemplate2) |
| 18:49.33 | Athaeus | Yup I was |
| 18:49.39 | Athaeus | Thanks Ill much around with it for a bit |
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| 18:58.50 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:59.03 | Scre3m | sup ck |
| 18:59.15 | bleetah | gmorn ck |
| 18:59.23 | Athaeus | Argh, it's been over six months since my last usage of the WoW API. Could you help me out a bit more to point out what should be changed to allow me to cast my spell? The OnClick handler I had for my button does some logic and optionally casts the spell. Now I cant use CastSpellByName anymore.. |
| 18:59.34 | Athaeus | Make that anyone and add a question mark. Roar. |
| 19:00.37 | SP|Sorren | you're not allowed to make intelligent casting decisions through scripts anymore :( |
| 19:01.09 | Athaeus | Read about that, yet its not an intelligent casting decision I think. Well not really, so I think it should be doable |
| 19:01.32 | zenzio | elaborate |
| 19:01.38 | Athaeus | Im just performing a few skill level checks and optionally cast Lockpicking followed by a ClickTargetTradeButton(). Would that still work? |
| 19:01.41 | Belinar | is the Wow UI Designer TBC beta working with 2.0? Has anyone tried it? |
| 19:01.49 | Josh_Borke | Can't do trades |
| 19:01.59 | Athaeus | How do you mean? |
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| 19:02.31 | Josh_Borke | hm, ask Elkano, he'd know |
| 19:03.30 | cogwheel | You can't accept a trade without a hardware event |
| 19:03.31 | Elkano | why should I know? I haven't tried it... but I think it should |
| 19:03.39 | Athaeus | Thats not the point |
| 19:04.26 | Belinar | It seems like it will, but this is the first time i've used it, so i figured i'd ask first... guess we'll see |
| 19:04.36 | Athaeus | I had a working mod prior to 2.0.0, all I need to fix is a 'normal' button which used to CastSpellByName('Pick Lock') followed by ClickTargetTradeButton(). Yet now I can't directly call CastSpellByName |
| 19:04.54 | Josh_Borke | Athaeus: you have to set an attribute of the button |
| 19:05.11 | Josh_Borke | Athaeus: you'll want to look at SecureButton.lua or something like that for information on attributes |
| 19:05.29 | Josh_Borke | Athaeus: i'm pretty sure you can't do trades through lua anymore |
| 19:05.43 | Scre3m | anyone have the rdx.cdi url? |
| 19:05.45 | Athaeus | Yup I did, still a bit vague though. Not sure how the anti-spell decision logic works though, since I don't really do spell related logic |
| 19:06.10 | cogwheel | Athaeus: the anti-logic works because you can't change attributes in combat. |
| 19:06.13 | Scre3m | err rdx.cid |
| 19:06.13 | Athaeus | Josh_Borke trading is not a problem. I don't accept trades nor initiate them, that's just handled by the normal code |
| 19:06.29 | Josh_Borke | Athaeus: i'm not sure you can call ClickTargetTradeButton() |
| 19:06.32 | cogwheel | you can use a PreClick handler on your secure button to change it's attribute outside of combat |
| 19:06.34 | Athaeus | Ah |
| 19:09.30 | Athaeus | If its meant to block you from changing the button attributes during combat only it should be no problem, I'd say.... |
| 19:15.38 | Athaeus | Hmpf, wait, the attributes to configure a spell require the spellname and target unit to be set? Then it wopnt work for my tradeslot I guess |
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| 19:36.51 | BS|trifly | hello |
| 19:37.15 | cogwheel | hi |
| 19:37.22 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 19:37.57 | BS|trifly | i m looking for a add on like best target of easypriest for the BTS |
| 19:38.03 | BS|trifly | Sommeone can help me ? |
| 19:38.13 | Tierrie|Work | what is best target of easypriest like |
| 19:38.22 | Tierrie|Work | 8/9 of players aren't priests :D |
| 19:38.49 | Kaso | Im a priest and that setance still doesnt make sense :> |
| 19:39.19 | Tierrie|Work | its like saying "anyone have that addon that shows that button where if you click it it does something" |
| 19:39.32 | Tierrie|Work | YOU KNOW?! SOMETHING SOMETHING! |
| 19:39.50 | Scre3m | i believe he's asking for a mod that allows you to target and heal the most needy player |
| 19:40.04 | Scre3m | which, of course, is no longer allowed |
| 19:40.05 | BS|trifly | yes Scre3m |
| 19:40.28 | Tierrie|Work | it is no longer allowed for mods to rearrange player unitframes based on need |
| 19:40.35 | Tierrie|Work | instead what you probably want is Grid and Clique |
| 19:40.35 | Scre3m | however, ctra has emergency monitor which shows the most needy player, but u cant use it to targer and/or class |
| 19:40.42 | Scre3m | s/class/cast/ |
| 19:41.00 | Tierrie|Work | well yes, you can either rearrange them or make the frames clickable |
| 19:41.14 | Josh_Borke | or both while out of combat |
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| 19:41.25 | Massaimah | What editor should I use when opening a .lua file? |
| 19:41.30 | Kaso | notepad |
| 19:41.30 | Josh_Borke | i use Vim! |
| 19:41.31 | Scre3m | vi!!! |
| 19:41.36 | Scre3m | ftw |
| 19:41.37 | Tierrie|Work | microsoft word |
| 19:41.41 | Tierrie|Work | hahaa |
| 19:41.43 | cogwheel | SciTE |
| 19:41.47 | Scre3m | *shudders |
| 19:42.04 | Cide | textpad |
| 19:42.09 | Scre3m | ~botsnack |
| 19:42.09 | purl | Scre3m: :) |
| 19:42.24 | Tierrie|Work | I use ultraedit but any plain old text editor will do |
| 19:42.27 | Tierrie|Work | its a text file |
| 19:42.44 | amro | just get something with syntax highlighting |
| 19:42.44 | Scre3m | i have not tried grid |
| 19:43.08 | Scre3m | w/o praid, i am nothing |
| 19:43.12 | Massaimah | and when i want to see all .lua files within a mod. Sort of a database like window |
| 19:43.15 | Massaimah | ? |
| 19:43.23 | Scre3m | merely a shadow of my former healing magnificance |
| 19:43.39 | Scre3m | magnificance (sp?) |
| 19:43.51 | BS|trifly | some thing whish just target the top member in emergency ^^'(sorry for my english it s no very good) |
| 19:43.51 | amro | kate has projects, but you're probably on windows |
| 19:43.58 | amro | scite has projects too |
| 19:44.33 | Massaimah | yep xp-user >_< |
| 19:44.47 | amro | i used scite and notepad++ on windows |
| 19:45.00 | amro | there's a scite package for wow somewhere |
| 19:45.37 | amro | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4989 |
| 19:45.38 | Massaimah | had something called Lua_editv3 or so... but deleted it it seems.. Any good? |
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| 19:45.54 | amro | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_editors |
| 19:46.07 | Guillotine | Scite > all |
| 19:46.16 | Guillotine | imo |
| 19:47.38 | SP|Sorren | is there a built in way to hide the world map minimap button? |
| 19:47.55 | SP|Sorren | i like notepad++(which is really scite in disguise, right?) |
| 19:48.04 | amro | i didn't notice that in interface options so probably not |
| 19:48.05 | Scre3m | crimson editor is nice, too |
| 19:48.07 | Tierrie|Work | frankly, I think that if you cannot play with addons then you're not a very good player |
| 19:48.20 | Tierrie|Work | especially those people who are "good" only because of emergency monitor and decursive |
| 19:48.22 | amro | I don't care much for the editor, as long as it has highlighting, folding, and tabs |
| 19:48.25 | Scre3m | you mean w/o addons? |
| 19:48.31 | Tierrie|Work | yes! |
| 19:48.47 | SP|Sorren | before the patch i woulda said i needed all the extra buttons barmods give me |
| 19:48.53 | SP|Sorren | but now i can just set buildings ;O |
| 19:48.58 | Scre3m | what an odd thing to think, the default UI is worthless |
| 19:49.01 | SP|Sorren | SO WHO NEEDS ADDONS. |
| 19:49.20 | amro | i dont use any UI addons, save things like lootlink and auctioneer |
| 19:49.30 | Scre3m | what class? |
| 19:49.41 | SP|Sorren | but why use your hands to dig a hole when you have a bulldozer? |
| 19:49.42 | amro | mage atm, but same on my hunter |
| 19:49.48 | Scre3m | lol |
| 19:49.59 | Scre3m | tey playing a raid priest with no addons |
| 19:50.01 | zenzio | set buildings? |
| 19:50.01 | Scre3m | try |
| 19:50.29 | amro | why? i just said I don't use addons. I didn't say they're useless |
| 19:50.43 | Scre3m | even if it is possible to be a good player w/o addons, its not nearly as fun |
| 19:50.51 | amro | and i dont do pve raiding, i could play a healer fine in wpvp |
| 19:51.05 | Scre3m | *nod |
| 19:51.23 | amro | EVEN, IF? what are you talking about? mods are just for convenience. you can be just as good without them, save pve raiding |
| 19:51.40 | SP|Sorren | for healing classes, that's doubtful |
| 19:51.41 | Scre3m | i'm talking about pve raiding |
| 19:51.49 | SP|Sorren | dps classes have it easy, really |
| 19:51.56 | amro | there's no such thing as good in pve. you just have to be not dumb |
| 19:52.08 | Scre3m | playing a ranged casting/shooting class is much, much different than playing a healer or a tank |
| 19:52.22 | TonyD | what, no bugfix patch? |
| 19:52.43 | bleetah | serverside |
| 19:52.47 | Massaimah | With or without em' doesn't change much... with em' just makes my mouses life last thrice as long :) |
| 19:52.51 | bleetah | 30% reduction in honor gain rate |
| 19:53.01 | Tierrie|Work | scream: I tried playing a healer with just the default blizzard addons and I did ok |
| 19:53.10 | Tierrie|Work | I did't do as well as i would have if I had clique, but it was still ok |
| 19:53.18 | amro | addons help of course, but you can play without them |
| 19:53.25 | amro | blizzard QA works without addons |
| 19:53.36 | Tierrie|Work | amro: well I think your statement needs to be refactored -- "addons help of course, but you SHOUDL be able to play without them" |
| 19:53.37 | amro | they get through raid instances just fine |
| 19:53.52 | BS|trifly | hum tierrie where have you gone with your healer without add on ? |
| 19:53.56 | Tierrie|Work | some people bitch whine and moan when they can't get decursive and say they can't play :P |
| 19:54.10 | Tierrie|Work | BS|trifly: only up till Patchwerk last week |
| 19:54.39 | BS|trifly | hum |
| 19:54.41 | amro | pve content is doable without addons, just harder, sometimes a lot harder. but its not impossible as some claim |
| 19:54.42 | BS|trifly | ^^' |
| 19:54.46 | Scre3m | let me re-phrase, yes, it's possible to play a priest w/o addons, but it is not fun at all |
| 19:54.55 | amro | yeah |
| 19:55.01 | Tierrie|Work | amro++ |
| 19:55.02 | Scre3m | and that is why there are very few priests |
| 19:55.09 | Scre3m | and druids |
| 19:55.10 | BS|trifly | i were in aq40 clap meteor without any add on -.- |
| 19:55.32 | Tierrie|Work | I think there are very few priests because playing a healer is somewhat thankless, raid leaders bitch and moan at the lack of healing and when things go well its always "way to go dps" |
| 19:55.41 | Scre3m | addons like decursive and praid, allows teh game to be fun for me, and not stressful work |
| 19:55.48 | Massaimah | That goes for all healing classes ^^ |
| 19:55.56 | Tierrie|Work | pretty much -- |
| 19:56.01 | amro | i think most people think in terms of PvE, and I don't think im ever going to step into a raid instance again |
| 19:56.15 | Tierrie|Work | amro: why not? |
| 19:56.15 | Scre3m | i love raiding pve, no interest at all in pvp |
| 19:56.31 | amro | because it bores me |
| 19:56.38 | amro | id rather do world pvp |
| 19:56.48 | amro | and not EPL/Silithus, attacking towns |
| 19:57.52 | Tierrie|Work | epl/silithus is funny on my server |
| 19:57.54 | amro | when i was raiding, it was log on, wait for people to get there, pull, kill, pull, kill, boss, dps, feign, dps feign, etc |
| 19:58.05 | Tierrie|Work | the alliance stands outside and waits for the horde to capture it for their quests |
| 19:58.12 | Tierrie|Work | then the horde leave and the alliance goes in and captures it |
| 19:58.57 | amro | its different on my server. no one goes there because they're too busy defending southshore/theramore/darkshire/lakeshire |
| 19:59.05 | amro | same on horde, world defense spamming all the time |
| 19:59.06 | Tierrie|Work | is your server pvp? |
| 19:59.12 | amro | yeah |
| 19:59.18 | Tierrie|Work | mine's carebear |
| 19:59.22 | amro | world pvp would be more accurate ;) |
| 20:00.34 | Corrodias | i love carebears |
| 20:01.32 | Scre3m | i found pve raiding on my rogue to be boring, too; but priest is very fun |
| 20:01.48 | Scre3m | rogue was always backing out to bandage or throw rocks |
| 20:01.50 | Scre3m | blah |
| 20:03.21 | Scre3m | with priest you have to manage aggro, conserve mana, choose heal targets wisely, decurse, etc. |
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| 20:03.33 | Corrodias | damn straight |
| 20:03.46 | Scre3m | so as a result, it's much much more fun (imho) |
| 20:03.55 | Corrodias | i started working on a mage, so i wouldn't have to think as hard during raid fights if i wanted a "vacation" |
| 20:04.02 | Scre3m | hehehe |
| 20:04.14 | Corrodias | frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt frostbolt |
| 20:04.25 | Corrodias | just kidding; i know they do a lot more than that |
| 20:04.44 | Scre3m | yeah, provide mage water to the priests :) |
| 20:05.46 | amro_ | fire mages work harder than frost mages |
| 20:05.54 | Tierrie|Work | amro++ |
| 20:06.03 | Tierrie|Work | my main's a mage, alt's a priest |
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| 20:06.11 | Tierrie|Work | i got so damn tired of pressing one button |
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| 20:06.42 | Scre3m | the zg events require different stuff |
| 20:06.49 | Massaimah | Main's a shaman (resto).. but got bored so started a warlock... am having fun again :) |
| 20:06.52 | Scre3m | like the spiders, bats, etc. the are spawned |
| 20:07.17 | Tierrie|Work | warlocks are mad fun, I am playing a level 70 one in beta |
| 20:07.30 | Tierrie|Work | they deal 2k damage easily :( which is about 2x more than my mage |
| 20:07.36 | Massaimah | Hehe... hopefully by end january mine'll be 70 aswell :) |
| 20:08.06 | Tierrie|Work | all that hype about overpowered warlocks on the boards I think is kinda true, but i haven't played any other level 70 so I have no basis for comparison |
| 20:08.22 | Massaimah | I just love to have to take care not to out-aggro our MT in MC or so.... :) |
| 20:08.22 | Guillotine | someone stole my nick on Quakenet :( and now their idling with it |
| 20:08.33 | Massaimah | sahme on him. |
| 20:08.48 | Tierrie|Work | but you should be like "oi, git orf mah nic eh" |
| 20:09.14 | amro_ | zg events are different, and AQ also has more interesting events, but they don't make any sense |
| 20:09.31 | Guillotine | I would, but, as I said, their idling. So theres noone there |
| 20:09.40 | amro_ | there's no reason why all bosses are so dumb they don't go for healers. |
| 20:09.51 | amro_ | i mean, regardless of taunts |
| 20:10.04 | Neuro_Medivh | because then the game would be pointless |
| 20:10.19 | amro_ | or, a warrior could actually stand in the way protecting the priest |
| 20:10.25 | amro_ | that would be more interesting IMO |
| 20:10.44 | Neuro_Medivh | tell you what: You design and code it, and I'm sure someone will listen |
| 20:11.02 | Massaimah | Btw anyone tried out henge yet? |
| 20:11.18 | Neuro_Medivh | Nope.. I am unhenged |
| 20:11.32 | Massaimah | Just took a look and it's nice. |
| 20:11.35 | amro_ | if i design it and code it (implying its a one man job) i dont need people to listen do i? |
| 20:11.48 | amro_ | im just saying pve does not appeal to me |
| 20:12.10 | amro_ | im not saying in needs to be changes |
| 20:12.13 | amro_ | changed* |
| 20:13.05 | Scre3m | i downloaded henge, but the size of it scared me |
| 20:13.36 | Neuro_Medivh | well, the problem is that if you designed pve to be like pvp, then no one would play healing classes in pve, they'd get destroyed every time |
| 20:13.37 | Tierrie|Work | amro: that would only really be possible if the game had player collision |
| 20:13.46 | Neuro_Medivh | got please no |
| 20:13.49 | Neuro_Medivh | god |
| 20:13.51 | Gryphen | ye3s? |
| 20:13.56 | Neuro_Medivh | EQ had player collision |
| 20:14.04 | Neuro_Medivh | most horrible thing ever |
| 20:14.06 | pastamancer | <3 ogre walls |
| 20:14.09 | amro | neuro |
| 20:14.18 | amro | they can make it not work in towns etc |
| 20:14.20 | amro | only in raids |
| 20:14.28 | pastamancer | the best was when an entire guild would block the cave to PoV,etc. |
| 20:14.29 | Josh_Borke | it would still suck |
| 20:14.31 | amro | like WAR will only have pvp collisions |
| 20:14.31 | Neuro_Medivh | and getting stuck behind ogres in solb |
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| 20:15.04 | amro | shooting frostbolts through terrain in wow takes the fun out of it for me |
| 20:15.21 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, most terrain stops my bolts |
| 20:15.22 | pastamancer | I think player collision was only used as a mechanic in one boss fight though |
| 20:15.38 | pastamancer | tunare and the ogre wall to prevent the knockback on the mt |
| 20:15.40 | amro | anyway, adding collision to wow would only ruin it |
| 20:15.44 | Neuro_Medivh | that's cause it was only one way |
| 20:15.48 | amro | the game would have to be completely redesigned |
| 20:15.55 | Neuro_Medivh | only players were blocked |
| 20:15.58 | Neuro_Medivh | mobs never were |
| 20:16.06 | Massaimah | 12«11Scre3m12» aye it's big but works fine and doesn't take too much. |
| 20:16.14 | Neuro_Medivh | also, mobs had Summon in EQ |
| 20:16.28 | pastamancer | mobs summon in wow too :p |
| 20:16.37 | Neuro_Medivh | not like in EQ |
| 20:16.39 | pastamancer | true |
| 20:17.13 | Neuro_Medivh | also, if player collision were in the game, then mob AI would have to be completely overhauled |
| 20:17.19 | sysrage | drood friend of mine asking for a macro he can use to shift into cat form and do Find Minerals. would it just be /cast CatformSpellName /cast Find Minerals ? |
| 20:17.35 | Neuro_Medivh | because otherwise, if a warrior did block a priest from getting hit, the mob would evade bug |
| 20:17.35 | amro | neuro, read what i said |
| 20:17.43 | amro | [21:15] <amro> the game would have to be completely redesigned |
| 20:18.06 | amro | collision would just ruin wow as it is, the mechanics are not designed for it |
| 20:18.28 | Neuro_Medivh | no AI will ever be as good as a human player. |
| 20:18.51 | Neuro_Medivh | that's why they have to make the mobs so much more powerful than the players |
| 20:19.02 | Scre3m | well, Big Blue managed to beat kasparov :) |
| 20:19.16 | Scre3m | or whatever that box was called |
| 20:19.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Deep Blue I think |
| 20:19.41 | Scre3m | ahh yes |
| 20:19.41 | amro | yeah, i never said anything about power. i think fights would be more interesting, for me at least, if the tank didnt take neough damage to die 400 times and got healed back. more tactics would be interesting, but that's just my 2c |
| 20:20.07 | Scre3m | i agree, more tactics would be more fun, i guess that'z what pvp is for |
| 20:20.14 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, but what other tactics? I mean, that's all the game is, heal, tank, dps |
| 20:20.23 | Scre3m | smarter ai |
| 20:20.37 | Scre3m | suprises |
| 20:20.43 | Neuro_Medivh | or, in a more basic sense, take dmg, heal dmg, deal dmg |
| 20:20.44 | Tierrie|Work | sysrage: its not possible to have two spellcasts in one macro unless he preses it twice i think |
| 20:20.52 | amro | exactly neuro, im saying it would have to be another game entirely |
| 20:20.57 | Neuro_Medivh | depends on the spells |
| 20:21.00 | amro | wow's mechanics are like that |
| 20:21.15 | Tierrie|Work | sysrage: but you can try /cast [nostange] Cat Form /cast Find Minerals |
| 20:21.29 | Massaimah | Do *_enUS.lua files in the addons have any effect when i play on european servers (french and english) ? |
| 20:21.52 | Tierrie|Work | depends on how the author implemented his localization, there's no standard |
| 20:21.56 | Massaimah | Ok |
| 20:22.10 | sysrage | tierrie what's nostange? |
| 20:22.15 | sysrage | oh. nostance? |
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| 20:22.28 | Tierrie|Work | oh yes nostance :( i'm a typo fiend |
| 20:22.54 | Scre3m | gm-controlled boss events could be fun |
| 20:23.06 | Scre3m | like acutal Game Masters :) |
| 20:23.24 | amro | yeah, but not for $15 a month :P |
| 20:23.30 | Tierrie|Work | it would not be sustainable |
| 20:23.36 | Tierrie|Work | asheron's call tried that |
| 20:23.41 | Tierrie|Work | and they gave up |
| 20:23.47 | Scre3m | oh i bet there are plenty of people out there that would do it for the fun of it |
| 20:23.49 | Tierrie|Work | and their player base was tiny! |
| 20:24.19 | ckknight | Massaimah, for Ace addons, if they use AceLocale-2.2, the enUS is used as a "base" for other languages to fall back on if a translation doesn't exist. Other authors do it differently, though |
| 20:24.30 | amro | assuming infinite funds, such a system would work. but since funds are limited, they cant hire the GMs for it. and they'd need an infrastructure to make sure GMs don't screw up or mess around |
| 20:24.54 | sysrage | tierrie: thanks |
| 20:24.59 | Kaelten | ckknight: doesn't the first registered one act as the base regardless of what lang it is? |
| 20:25.00 | Massaimah | Thanks ck. (he does use AceLocale-2.2) |
| 20:25.19 | Kaso | i think eve ingoring funds gm controlled bosses wouldnt be liked by the community |
| 20:25.41 | Kaso | "How come XXX's encounter was so much easier than ours and we got the same loot" |
| 20:25.58 | amro | yeah, that's why they would need a way to make GMs consistent, and they cant |
| 20:26.00 | ckknight | Kaelten, true, but enUS is almost always the base. |
| 20:26.05 | Kaelten | true |
| 20:26.15 | Kaelten | but just wanted to point out that its possible for enUS to not be the base |
| 20:26.19 | Kaelten | :) |
| 20:26.19 | Kaso | amro a consistant GM aka AI :> |
| 20:26.37 | amro | lol |
| 20:26.51 | Scre3m | no loot, just for the fun of it |
| 20:27.04 | _bs | what changed for itemid's in 2.0? |
| 20:27.10 | amro | I don't mind AI, I just think WoW's system is just so repetitive. figuring out new fights is fun, but then its no longer fun to do it agian |
| 20:27.13 | _bs | i didn't find any decent info on it |
| 20:27.19 | Kaelten | _bs: order and content |
| 20:27.23 | Kaso | _bs theres 8 fields the second to last one can be negative |
| 20:27.23 | _bs | but they sure don't work anymore to make links :) |
| 20:27.28 | Kaelten | its now 8 slots instead of 4 |
| 20:27.39 | _bs | any place i can read about that? |
| 20:28.27 | Guillotine | what do you guys think of this pvp spec for a lock: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IA0MVRfpqtbo0xc |
| 20:28.49 | Guillotine | is it worth getting imp life tap if you have dark pact? |
| 20:29.28 | Tierrie|Work | i prefer lifetap over darkpact for pve, but i don't know about pvp |
| 20:30.00 | Tierrie|Work | why no agony though for pvp |
| 20:30.24 | amro | i dont use life tap in pvp. i have little hp to start with |
| 20:30.41 | Guillotine | not sure what to take out of to put into imp. agony |
| 20:30.42 | Corrodias | draining your own health is generally not a good idea in pvp, no. |
| 20:30.56 | Tierrie|Work | hm ok but warlocks have 10k health in TBC :P |
| 20:30.57 | Corrodias | whatever you get out of it |
| 20:30.59 | Guillotine | maybe just go 2/5 shadow embrace |
| 20:31.07 | Guillotine | Tierrie: this is just for now :) Have about 3k health |
| 20:31.13 | Tierrie|Work | oh ok then no lifetap! |
| 20:31.22 | amro | other classes also get more HP |
| 20:31.40 | Scre3m | do priests get plate? |
| 20:31.43 | Corrodias | I wonder if there's a point to the mage in TBC with warlocks shining so bright |
| 20:31.45 | Guillotine | I wish :( |
| 20:31.48 | Tierrie|Work | amro: yeah but damage doesn't scale as much, warlocks get much more so its probably a bit safer to tap |
| 20:31.58 | Guillotine | Corrodias: theres no point to anyone in TBC with warlocks :P |
| 20:33.08 | _bs | got it.. thanks a lot guys! |
| 20:33.15 | Corrodias | i wonder if i'd be more satisfied with my warlock/mage combo being BE/troll or undead/BE. i want to spread around my class choices among the available races, and i want them to look decent. i had started my mage, but it's only got a few hours on it. i wouldn't feel bad restarting it as a BE. |
| 20:33.16 | amro | maybe, but i usually kill people before i go OOM :P |
| 20:33.17 | Massaimah | Had a similar spec before going demonology. Took both so as to be able to do pvp and pve. Worked quite fine |
| 20:34.43 | Massaimah | Biggest prob with affliction tree is that you mostly kill all the guys after they've killed ya... so ya never get the honor :( |
| 20:35.19 | Massaimah | That is when in pvp. |
| 20:35.25 | Corrodias | sigh, and i had just learned so much about mages. now i need to learn about warlocks. |
| 20:35.27 | Guillotine | hmm. good point |
| 20:35.42 | Guillotine | but in AV I can just hide in towers and DoT people up |
| 20:36.32 | Guillotine | I'd go demonology (thats what i am on TBC), but it needs stamina and this char currently just has lots of +damage |
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| 20:36.58 | Massaimah | hehe... demonology rocks. |
| 20:37.55 | Corrodias | describe to me what the different specs are like |
| 20:38.12 | Corrodias | thus reducing my workload and letting you boost your ego with a demonstration of your familiarity |
| 20:38.23 | Guillotine | indeed it does, but its heavily reliant on stam |
| 20:38.44 | Massaimah | Hehe sure corrodias. |
| 20:39.11 | Guillotine | lol. basically, affliction is the least gear reliant, demonology needs lots of +stam, and destruction needs +damage |
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| 20:39.18 | Massaimah | yep |
| 20:40.18 | Guillotine | and whatever you have, you want to get demonic embrace. its like... required |
| 20:40.32 | Corrodias | okay, that's good to know. what about more details? i mean, i know wowwiki will probably explain the warlock just fine but i'm giving you an opportunity to show off, here. |
| 20:40.32 | Massaimah | :) |
| 20:40.54 | Massaimah | haven't tested destro since patch. |
| 20:41.35 | Guillotine | what else do you want to know about the lock corrodias? |
| 20:41.47 | cogwheel | Affliction is mostly DoT related, Demonology is ... self-explanatory, & Destruction is mostly direct damage |
| 20:41.47 | Guillotine | oh ya, another name for it is "GodMode" |
| 20:42.16 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 20:42.28 | Massaimah | Basically affliction (with siphon life) ye can try and take up to 4-5 people... it needs a bit of training but is doable |
| 20:42.44 | Corrodias | any tips about playing a warlock that i won't find on wowwiki when i get around to reading it? |
| 20:42.47 | cogwheel | I've historically done Affliction/Demonology for leveling (demonology is almost a necessity for soloing as are the various "drains" of afflicition) |
| 20:43.05 | Guillotine | Corrodias: dunno if this is on wowwiki, but while leveling up, spec affliction and drain tnak |
| 20:43.28 | cogwheel | once I started raiding I switched over to an affliction/destruction spec for the increased DPS |
| 20:43.33 | Massaimah | works aswell for soloing at 60 ^^ |
| 20:44.06 | Corrodias | which one works "as well" for soloing at 60? |
| 20:44.18 | Massaimah | the affliction/demonology |
| 20:45.25 | Guillotine | yup. get up to 30 in affliction, then start putting points into demonology |
| 20:45.33 | Guillotine | alright, what do you guys think of this spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IA0RiRfkqtbo0xc |
| 20:45.52 | Guillotine | I want 1 point in Shadow Embrace as that counts as an affliction effect and boosts drain life |
| 20:47.01 | Massaimah | looks nice. |
| 20:47.51 | Massaimah | but i'd drop the fel intellect unless you go for full demonology. |
| 20:48.11 | Massaimah | 3% mana... nice but no real use. |
| 20:48.20 | Corrodias | not enough to matter |
| 20:48.26 | Massaimah | aye |
| 20:50.00 | Massaimah | same drop nightfall. as when your affliction based like this you won't use to many times shadow bolt..... to busy recasting your dots on the targets |
| 20:50.23 | Massaimah | gives ya 5 points to spend elsewhere in total :) |
| 20:51.13 | Corrodias | sleepy time. [away] |
| 20:52.34 | Guillotine | Massaimah: you don't think the fel intellect will help with dark pact? |
| 20:54.09 | Massaimah | 15% more int on demon.... should give ya like 1 more tap when using dark pact. |
| 20:54.22 | Massaimah | so i'd still say no. |
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| 20:55.45 | Guillotine | hmm. ok. that helps |
| 20:56.54 | Massaimah | better ways to use.. if still keeping nightfall i'd put those 3 in imp. shadowbolt |
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| 20:58.18 | Massaimah | my current build btw : http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AVZfxczhid0xsth |
| 20:58.58 | Arrowmaster` | demo noob |
| 21:00.15 | Massaimah | why so? |
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| 21:01.02 | Arrowmaster | ive yet to see anybody with a felguard impress me, they all die rather quickly |
| 21:01.17 | Cide | what are you, a warlock? |
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| 21:01.29 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:01.35 | Massaimah | I sacrifice it ^^ |
| 21:01.41 | Cide | haha |
| 21:01.43 | Cide | see? |
| 21:01.48 | Arrowmaster | lol ok thats a new one |
| 21:01.49 | Cide | anyone that can beat a warlock is... a warlock |
| 21:01.54 | Cide | no lie! |
| 21:02.27 | Cide | in fact, I got my ass handed to me by a level 60 warlock... at level 67 |
| 21:02.57 | Massaimah | HAve more use of the +10% shadow damage and mana regen then of the felguard ^^ |
| 21:03.45 | Massaimah | Still.. it depends on what class i'm fighting against. |
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| 21:04.03 | Massaimah | If i face a mage I'm kinda happy to have him for example. |
| 21:04.16 | Massaimah | +30 all resistances is kinda nice |
| 21:04.26 | Arrowmaster | seems like a bit of a waste when you could go SM/DS |
| 21:05.57 | Massaimah | maybe.. |
| 21:06.38 | Massaimah | Has becoma kinda hard to take a nice spec... as they're all nice nowaydays |
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| 21:09.35 | [Liquidor] | HI |
| 21:09.43 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 21:09.45 | Massaimah | evening |
| 21:09.59 | [Liquidor] | :) |
| 21:16.58 | Kirov | netcurse - you around? |
| 21:19.05 | netcurse | hi |
| 21:19.11 | Gryphen | he3ya |
| 21:19.47 | Kirov | netcurse - I'm curious if the addon comments are going to have an "edit" option |
| 21:19.54 | netcurse | They will |
| 21:19.57 | netcurse | in a few day |
| 21:20.00 | netcurse | maybe hours :P |
| 21:20.01 | Scre3m | cladhaire, donation submitted :) |
| 21:20.02 | Kirov | hehe |
| 21:21.37 | Kirov | netcurse - cool, just curious |
| 21:21.59 | netcurse | no problem |
| 21:22.06 | netcurse | we made hte advanced search page today |
| 21:22.12 | netcurse | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/search/ |
| 21:22.32 | Guillotine | Scre3m: no! don't! if he gets donations, he'll prolong the release of PRaid in the hope that more people will donate in the hope that PRaid comes out sooner |
| 21:23.00 | Scre3m | hehehe |
| 21:23.29 | Scre3m | he's got us right where he wants us |
| 21:23.43 | Scre3m | dangling praid in front of us like a carrot on a stick |
| 21:24.23 | Kirov | that's dangerous |
| 21:24.33 | Kirov | someone might just go ahead and update it for him |
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| 21:38.04 | Massaimah | Night all see ya later this week |
| 21:38.14 | Scre3m | nite |
| 21:41.10 | Guillotine | Affliction warlocks are OP o.O |
| 21:41.20 | Guillotine | I just killed a group of 5 horde from the top of a hill |
| 21:42.45 | Qshadowp | hmm, how exactly would i go about changeing the caught fish sound? |
| 21:43.45 | Neuro_Medivh | First you gotta hack the Gibson |
| 21:43.57 | Guillotine | Qshadowp: can't anymore |
| 21:44.06 | Qshadowp | :( |
| 21:44.36 | Qshadowp | any programs that could pick up the sound of the fishy getting caught ? |
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| 21:48.32 | Scre3m | Qshadowp, that would be a great mod! |
| 21:49.06 | Qshadowp | lol i doubt that could be done in the standared ui |
| 21:50.04 | Scre3m | just need to amplifu that sound a bit |
| 21:50.46 | Qshadowp | nah the only way you'd be able to do that would be right something outside of wow |
| 21:50.57 | Qshadowp | and make it hook that when that sound is played, do stuff. |
| 21:51.05 | Qshadowp | but im still learning to python :( |
| 21:51.53 | Maldivia | TBC bumbed to 2.0.3, does that mean 2.0.2 will be out before Jan 16th? :) |
| 21:52.56 | Qshadowp | hehe, this website has a funny page not found page, it says page not found in every language possible |
| 21:53.42 | Qshadowp | (1337h4x0r, Scots (Fit page? we divnae hae it.), american Ah cain't find th' page yer lookin' fer) |
| 21:53.44 | Qshadowp | lol |
| 21:53.46 | ckknight | Maldivia, not necessarily, but possible. |
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| 21:54.08 | Maldivia | ckknight: one can hope :) |
| 21:54.18 | ckknight | it would be nice |
| 21:55.16 | Qshadowp | i'd like pct to come up so i can get off my damned realm lol |
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| 21:57.13 | ckknight | Maldivia, my download isn't authorized :-( |
| 21:57.19 | Maldivia | same :| |
| 21:57.32 | Maldivia | and the direct download hasn't been uploaded yet either |
| 21:57.32 | ckknight | oh well, notesplz! |
| 21:57.41 | Maldivia | and there are no notes this patch |
| 21:57.47 | ckknight | aw |
| 21:57.52 | Maldivia | "mostly fixes" |
| 21:57.53 | ckknight | how come? |
| 21:57.54 | Maldivia | to quote |
| 21:57.56 | ckknight | okay then |
| 21:57.59 | ckknight | which is good. |
| 21:58.02 | ckknight | likely the CloseLoot fix |
| 21:58.05 | ckknight | I'm hopin |
| 21:58.06 | ckknight | g |
| 21:59.08 | Maldivia | I have my diff scripts ready :) |
| 21:59.56 | Qshadowp | lol what happened to fishing buddys right click to fish function? |
| 22:00.02 | Qshadowp | did blizzard kill that too? :( |
| 22:00.03 | ckknight | good stuff, Maldivia |
| 22:00.08 | Guillotine | yup |
| 22:00.08 | ckknight | Qshadowp, yes. |
| 22:00.53 | Qshadowp | wtb a big fishing button so i don't have to use my brain to click on it. |
| 22:01.44 | Gnarfoz | omg most awesome |
| 22:01.57 | Gnarfoz | that Garr/Gehennas/Golemagg/Sulfuron Harbinger quad-kill video |
| 22:02.21 | Scre3m | u can't right click to fish anymore??? |
| 22:03.03 | Gnarfoz | Scre3m: you never could, FishingBuddy let you do that |
| 22:03.04 | Scre3m | i know, but you can't using an addon anymore? |
| 22:03.04 | Gnarfoz | and... who knows if the FB author fixes that ;) |
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| 22:03.43 | Kaso | Scre3m thats impossible nowadays |
| 22:03.52 | Kaso | has been for a couple patches |
| 22:04.10 | Qshadowp | im just gonna bind cast fishing rod to space or something while i fish, lol. |
| 22:04.42 | Scre3m | i jus't don't get that |
| 22:04.57 | Scre3m | can clique be use to fish i wonder? |
| 22:07.07 | Kaso | it could be, but you'd have to click a frame, and the fishing bober isn a frame, so it sorta defeats the point |
| 22:07.32 | cladhaire | Scre3m: yeah.. it should be |
| 22:07.35 | cladhaire | you'd have to click on the unit frame tho |
| 22:07.49 | Scre3m | so like click on yourself to cast/ |
| 22:07.51 | Scre3m | ? |
| 22:07.59 | cladhaire | aye |
| 22:08.05 | Scre3m | better than nothing |
| 22:08.07 | cladhaire | well your unit frame |
| 22:08.10 | cladhaire | specifically |
| 22:08.15 | Scre3m | *nod |
| 22:10.32 | Tierrie|Work | wow big news on curse -> http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/general-news/173/blizzard-employees-leave-to-start-mmo-game-dev-company/ |
| 22:11.04 | Scre3m | interesting |
| 22:11.09 | cladhaire | meh |
| 22:11.14 | Tierrie|Work | its going to be meh |
| 22:11.24 | Tierrie|Work | i'd rate that as one of the dumbest career moves ever |
| 22:11.34 | Scre3m | unless they have funding |
| 22:11.55 | Scre3m | 18 million in their case |
| 22:12.15 | Scre3m | Recently, several former Blizzard employees who have been working on World of Warcraft left the company announcing that they had raised 18 and a half million dollars to fund their newly created MMO development company |
| 22:14.03 | Tierrie|Work | dudes, EQ had tons of funding, as did AC2 |
| 22:14.13 | Tierrie|Work | they have no IP |
| 22:14.20 | Tierrie|Work | and about 3-4 years of development time |
| 22:14.52 | Tierrie|Work | i can see them sitting down and starting MyProj.vcproj |
| 22:14.58 | cladhaire | ... |
| 22:15.00 | Tierrie|Work | and then MyHelloWorld.cpp |
| 22:15.03 | cladhaire | Red5 has been working for two years now. |
| 22:15.04 | cladhaire | its nothing new. |
| 22:15.07 | cladhaire | they already have IP |
| 22:15.11 | Tierrie|Work | they do? |
| 22:15.14 | Tierrie|Work | whats their IP? |
| 22:15.16 | Scre3m | yes, but they have 18.5 million to spend :) that has to be fun hehe |
| 22:17.27 | Guillotine | the founders of Guild Wars were from blizz as well I believe |
| 22:18.29 | ckknight | Maldivia, ping me when the download works |
| 22:18.52 | Maldivia | ok |
| 22:22.25 | Tierrie|Work | so are the developers of Hellgate: London |
| 22:22.39 | Tierrie|Work | but I think they were Blizzard North |
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| 22:32.33 | TonyD | not authorized? |
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| 22:36.23 | Maldivia | TonyD: yeah... :| |
| 22:37.11 | Maldivia | TonyD: they haven't activated the download yet, they just pushed the downloaders |
| 22:37.11 | TonyD | freakz |
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| 22:37.25 | Antiarc_ | wtb beta patch goodies :( |
| 22:37.47 | Antiarc_ | I am especially curious to see if they did anything with mace spec or WEx |
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| 22:37.49 | nevcairiel | i more hope they fixed the cubes in various instances |
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| 22:37.57 | Thardal | i love how curse-gaming fixed their website by simply making most addons unavailable |
| 22:37.57 | TonyD | heh |
| 22:38.05 | TonyD | btw, anyone know the deal with shadowstep? |
| 22:38.11 | Antiarc_ | I've used it |
| 22:38.12 | TonyD | saved for vc? |
| 22:38.15 | Antiarc_ | Wasn't too hot on it. |
| 22:38.36 | Antiarc_ | It produces impressive crits on cloth, but it just has no punch once you're out of stealth. |
| 22:38.39 | TonyD | my rogue on the test server is only lvl42 |
| 22:39.07 | TonyD | i lvled my live rogue to 50 just for the patch, then... NOTHING! |
| 22:39.17 | TonyD | cloak of shadows? c'mon |
| 22:39.30 | Maldivia | cloak is mean :| |
| 22:40.26 | Maldivia | Tem... headwidth/height/scale is in ! :) |
| 22:40.52 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 22:40.58 | Tem | I wrote that |
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| 22:41.04 | Maldivia | I figured |
| 22:41.13 | TonyD | is in what? |
| 22:41.28 | Maldivia | Tem: you're also responsible for the reparenting ? |
| 22:41.31 | Tem | aye |
| 22:41.38 | Maldivia | Tem: ok - interesting idea! |
| 22:41.44 | Maldivia | TonyD: state headers, in 2.0.2 |
| 22:41.58 | TonyD | ahh |
| 22:42.17 | TonyD | not sure what that really means, but I get thye gist |
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| 22:44.31 | Maldivia | Tem: now we just need and option, for state headers, to reanchor children to it's current anchor, instead of it's parent *hint* *hint* |
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| 22:44.45 | Tem | it'll anchor it's children to itself |
| 22:44.52 | Tem | and you can set the header's anchor |
| 22:44.58 | Tem | so... |
| 22:46.26 | Maldivia | just had another idea for my pet group today, by using headofx etc to reanchor the state header (the one the raid header controlled), but since it reanchors to the parent, it didn't work :) |
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| 22:46.46 | Maldivia | if it reanchored to it's previous anchor, I could just have shifted it down, on top of the previous one :) |
| 22:47.11 | Maldivia | But I'll just wait for headheight instead :) |
| 22:50.00 | Maldivia | ckknight: ping |
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| 22:51.13 | ckknight | Maldivia, got it |
| 22:51.26 | Maldivia | ok |
| 22:52.11 | TC_sleeping | *sigh* i wasnt getting enough honor at it is "no, please, cut honor intake by 30%" |
| 22:53.01 | Maldivia | Thunder: people already have GM weapons, in less than a week |
| 22:53.18 | Maldivia | and yes, weapons.... plural |
| 22:53.25 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 22:53.32 | Thunder_Child | doesnt make me fell that much better though |
| 22:53.39 | Thunder_Child | feel* |
| 22:53.49 | Tierrie|Work | Did they buff the PvP rewards? |
| 22:54.02 | Thunder_Child | but then i am a priest, and that just makes me a pvp slut |
| 22:54.06 | Maldivia | personally, I'm saving most of my honor for lvl 70 :) |
| 22:54.11 | Thunder_Child | you know...everyone gets a piece |
| 22:54.41 | Thunder_Child | not that i know of Tierrie|Work |
| 22:55.51 | Mery | Trolling everything heh? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=55975614&sid=1#6 |
| 22:57.43 | Thunder_Child | lol, want trolling? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54892466&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
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| 22:59.38 | Mikma | Thunder_Child: confirmed trolling! |
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| 23:00.11 | Mery | that's clever trolling ! |
| 23:01.21 | Mery | (well would have been better from a new account with no character > level 5) |
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| 23:02.17 | Thunder_Child | sounds like someone lost their way from eq |
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| 23:03.32 | TonyD | yay, dowloading |
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| 23:14.52 | Qshadowp | can someone give me a /script command to bind jump to space? |
| 23:15.10 | Qshadowp | so i can shuffle between fishing being on space, and jump being on space :P |
| 23:15.45 | Maldivia | druid nerfs and buffs in 2.0.3... |
| 23:16.04 | Kaso | oh? |
| 23:16.05 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 23:16.09 | nevcairiel | do tell! |
| 23:16.31 | Qshadowp | what about me? :( |
| 23:16.36 | Maldivia | bear form nerfed to +25% health |
| 23:16.48 | Maldivia | tranquility buffed, to 3x the healing |
| 23:17.00 | nevcairiel | tranq buffed is not really buffed :D |
| 23:17.04 | cladhaire | its party1pet, right? |
| 23:17.12 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 23:17.17 | cladhaire | thx |
| 23:17.18 | cladhaire | my brain hurts |
| 23:17.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | bear got nerfed |
| 23:17.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | wtfs |
| 23:17.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | are they playing the same game that we are |
| 23:17.49 | nevcairiel | Maldivia did you read that somewhere you could link? |
| 23:17.59 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: max rank (level 70) of tranquility, now heals for 1518 every 2sec, for 8seconds |
| 23:18.07 | nevcairiel | oh. |
| 23:18.12 | cogwheel | Lawmaker aims to allow the blind to hunt: http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2006-12-12T154047Z_01_N11175774_RTRUKOC_0_US-BLIND-HUNTERS.xml |
| 23:18.12 | nevcairiel | that sounds usable now. |
| 23:18.13 | Tierrie|Work | Qshadowp: christ use the built in Interfaces->Keybindings |
| 23:18.29 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: previously, max rank was 407 :) |
| 23:18.31 | Tierrie|Work | oh is there a list of changelogs for 2.0.3? |
| 23:18.40 | Maldivia | nope :) |
| 23:18.41 | Qshadowp | Tierrie i could but i dont wanna have to keep browseing through that to change between fishing and normal |
| 23:19.46 | Maldivia | Blessing of Might is now attack power, instead of melee attack power |
| 23:20.13 | Shadowed | Maldivia: Where, on TBC? |
| 23:20.22 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia always seems to get the inside scoop |
| 23:20.23 | Shadowed | How do you do a ClearAllPoints in XML by the way, can't remember what it was |
| 23:20.30 | Maldivia | Shadowed: yes |
| 23:20.31 | Thunder_Child | he must be sleeping his way to the top |
| 23:20.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | any other druid changes, mald |
| 23:20.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | cause the bear nerf is MASSIVE |
| 23:22.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there better be something given to us in exchange, like parry |
| 23:22.29 | Tierrie|Work | or a third paw |
| 23:22.45 | Maldivia | existing proc enchants has reduced effect for players > lvl 60 |
| 23:23.02 | Tierrie|Work | is that < or >? |
| 23:23.18 | Tierrie|Work | is there a place i can read this? |
| 23:24.56 | Xuerian | Wait, bear nerf? |
| 23:24.59 | Xuerian | What's getting nerfed now? |
| 23:27.59 | Maldivia | Black Book nerfed, flat amount instead of percentage |
| 23:29.15 | Maldivia | druid BWL trinket, also changed to flat amount |
| 23:29.29 | Xuerian | Fuh? |
| 23:29.34 | Maldivia | warrior gem, also flat amount |
| 23:29.58 | Maldivia | rogue poison trinket changed |
| 23:30.10 | Xuerian | Ahh..... Making stuff go obsolete with level |
| 23:30.10 | Guillotine | :/ for that bear nerf, they better be giving us back weapon procs in forms |
| 23:30.11 | Guillotine | and pots |
| 23:30.24 | Xuerian | Is there another bear nerf Maldivia didn't mention? |
| 23:30.41 | Kaso | Maldivia shaman trinket i guess too ? |
| 23:30.43 | Guillotine | its down to 25% health |
| 23:30.51 | Xuerian | What was it before, exactly? |
| 23:30.51 | Kaso | Also what flat amount for warrior trinket? |
| 23:30.53 | Maldivia | kaso: indeed |
| 23:31.07 | Maldivia | Heal yourself for 1500 and increase your maximum health by 1500 for 20 sec. After the effects wear off, you will lose the extra maximum health |
| 23:32.10 | Maldivia | basically, all items that added percent, have been changed to flat amounts |
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| 23:33.46 | Kaso | Maldivia where'd you get that info? |
| 23:34.02 | Maldivia | did a diff :) |
| 23:34.14 | Guillotine | Xuerian: before was 40% |
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| 23:34.28 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 23:34.39 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 23:34.45 | Xuerian | ^ >_< |
| 23:35.22 | Xuerian | \sigh, why the heck did they go and do that.. |
| 23:36.42 | Thunder_Child | whats a scrat? |
| 23:36.53 | TonyD | ice age squirrel/rat |
| 23:36.58 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 23:37.20 | cogwheel | Scrat... Scrat... The sabre-toothed squirrel-rat... |
| 23:38.03 | TonyD | ahh, nuts |
| 23:38.24 | TonyD | i want another round of character transfers to BCBeta |
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| 23:39.50 | Kaso | Maldivia |
| 23:39.56 | Maldivia | Kaso |
| 23:40.04 | Kaso | old buddy old pal, dont happen to have a ftp/http do you :> |
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| 23:40.52 | Maldivia | yes, why ? |
| 23:41.14 | Kaso | couldnt fix me up with the beta patch could you pretty please |
| 23:41.39 | Maldivia | 10min, and it's uploaded |
| 23:41.42 | Maldivia | perhaps 15 |
| 23:41.45 | Kaso | thank you |
| 23:43.06 | Tierrie|Work | Maldivia: you diffed the data files? |
| 23:43.20 | Tierrie|Work | Maldivia: you should really make the unofficial patch notes, I'd read it |
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| 23:50.31 | Xuerian | Maldivia: I second that, could you post those diffs somewhere? |
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