irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20061210

`00:01.53`	`Famex`	`Is it possible to scale the border that is on the top of the ACE2 UI?`
`00:01.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`ah he says he added the stuff to the DEFAULT click set and its working`
`00:02.20`	`Wobin`	`whey, have they changed the way GetInventoryItemLink returns actual bankbags?`
`00:03.21`	`Famex`	`@Wobin, thnx for your great addons, can i ask you something?`
`00:03.22`	`cladhaire`	`Arrowmaster: What was the issue, again?`
`00:03.31`	`Wobin`	`Sure`
`00:04.14`	`Famex`	`Im using the all deuce2 UI and I would like the scale the border that is on top of the screen.`
`00:04.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`it wasnt working for the party frames but was for the player and target frames`
`00:04.21`	`Gnarfoz`	`cladhaire: is that 'bad way' something users could simply fix on their end for the time being? (like, a one line issue)`
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`00:04.42`	`cladhaire`	`Gnarfoz: If there is, I dont know what line its on`
`00:04.45`	`cladhaire`	`and id ont have time to look`
`00:04.50`	`cladhaire`	`just don't re-bind alt-rightclick for now`
`00:04.51`	`cladhaire`	`that's the fix =)`
`00:04.56`	`Gnarfoz`	`alright`
`00:05.37`	`Gnarfoz`	`not using click casting at all, so that won't be happening to me anytime soon ;) just thought I'd ask in case it's something I might encounter (because I use agUF)`
`00:05.39`	`Wobin`	`Heya Clad =) in regards to macros and clique, how are the macros indexed?`
`00:06.01`	`cladhaire`	`in the "standard" way.. to be honest i have no idea what that is`
`00:06.03`	`cladhaire`	`cause i use macrotext`
`00:06.06`	`cladhaire`	`so i dont have to burn a macro slot`
`00:06.12`	`Wobin`	`oh`
`00:06.22`	`Wobin`	`I have no idea how they are standardly =P`
`00:06.30`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`00:06.32`	`cladhaire`	`shoudln't be hard to figure out.`
`00:06.34`	`Wobin`	`Is it looking for a number or a name?`
`00:06.38`	`cladhaire`	`number`
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`00:06.45`	`cladhaire`	`or the actual text of the macro`
`00:06.57`	`Wobin`	`The /cast etc etc?`
`00:07.03`	`Wobin`	`or "FuzzySpell"?`
`00:07.08`	`cladhaire`	`no, the whole macro`
`00:07.10`	`Wobin`	`ah`
`00:07.11`	`cladhaire`	`in the macroText box`
`00:07.14`	`Wobin`	`well that makes things easier`
`00:07.20`	`cladhaire`	`aye`
`00:07.23`	`Wobin`	`^^`
`00:08.57`	`Wobin`	`PS <3 clique`
`00:09.38`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I hear cladhaire has been nominated by the Catholic Church as the Patron Saint of Healing Classes`
`00:10.20`	`dr\|dranor`	`clique + grid is a really nice combo`
`00:10.31`	`Famex`	`guess no one can help me them?`
`00:11.03`	`cladhaire`	`Famex: whats the question?`
`00:11.21`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`lol: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54938671&sid=1`
`00:12.00`	`Famex`	`I want to scale the border in all deuce2 UI, its to large now. I mean the border on top of the screen, where all the addons are listed to`
`00:12.25`	`DJBlackwing`	`Anyone know how to fix the 'click' and lag spike that happens when people join/leave/move in raid?`
`00:12.48`	`Kirkburn\|afk`	`Click is Blizz implemented`
`00:13.15`	`Wobin`	`blaaaaah`
`00:13.17`	`dr\|dranor`	`DJBlackwing: are you using ctra?`
`00:13.20`	`DJBlackwing`	`yeah Dr`
`00:13.26`	`Gnarfoz`	`has nothing to do with ctra`
`00:13.29`	`Wobin`	`Inventory slot 64 is no longer the first bag slot =(`
`00:13.34`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`DJ, I'd also check to see if your install is caching properly`
`00:13.35`	`Wobin`	`it's not 68`
`00:13.36`	`dr\|dranor`	`lag spikes do`
`00:13.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`no...`
`00:13.43`	`Wobin`	`s/not/now/`
`00:13.43`	`DJBlackwing`	`Yeah the lag does`
`00:13.48`	`DJBlackwing`	`Any solution?`
`00:14.07`	`cladhaire`	`Famex: I'm not familiar with it`
`00:14.08`	`dr\|dranor`	`get latest version, at least that worked for some of my guildies`
`00:14.24`	`DJBlackwing`	`hmm ok`
`00:14.25`	`Gnarfoz`	`<Nuzolx> in order to stop " tic tic" : /script if not _clickfixed then __xps=PlaySound; function PlaySound(snd) if (snd~="igCharacterInfoTab") then __xps(snd); end end _clickfixed=1; end`
`00:14.32`	`Wobin`	`Oh hey Neuro`
`00:14.43`	`Wobin`	`Thank you so much for the macro thread =)`
`00:14.46`	`Gnarfoz`	`that works against the clicking, which is, reportedly, also the source of the lags at the same point`
`00:15.01`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`np`
`00:15.02`	`Famex`	`ok thnx claghaire, going to delete the whole all ceuce them.`
`00:15.23`	`cladhaire`	`I'm just not sure what you mean, if you have a link that might help.`
`00:16.41`	`Famex`	`dont have a link, but there are 2 borders, one where the chatchannels and bar burrons are and one on top of the screen, where you see, the deuce commander, time, dps, etc etc`
`00:17.17`	`DJBlackwing`	`Gunna try it dr... mine doesnt have the problem, but i have some guildies`
`00:17.24`	`DJBlackwing`	`that are having the problem`
`00:17.34`	`Wobin`	`What's deuce2?`
`00:18.00`	`Famex`	`got an UI called ALL DEUCE2 ACE`
`00:18.03`	`Wobin`	`oh`
`00:18.13`	`ckknight`	`ugh`
`00:18.52`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`so, it's like what, twice as bad as Ace? =)`
`00:19.11`	`Wobin`	`Now now Neuro =P`
`00:19.20`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`I kid, I kid`
`00:19.42`	`Famex`	`never mind, im in the wrong place here, goodnight and thnx again`
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`00:19.58`	`Caeryn`	`damn thing won't let me upload my file`
`00:20.08`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`It won't even let me make an account`
`00:30.23`	`Shadowed`	`Curse sucks!`
`00:30.29`	`cladhaire`	`O.o`
`00:32.19`	`Caeryn`	`cake`
`00:32.22`	`Caeryn`	`have you tried sending cake?`
`00:32.37`	`Shadowed`	`why would you send cake when you can send pie?`
`00:32.50`	`Caeryn`	`because cake is better than pie!`
`00:33.03`	`Caeryn`	`by like a million times`
`00:33.19`	`Shadowed`	`going to have to burn you now!`
`00:33.22`	`Shadowed`	`everyone knows pie > cake`
`00:33.30`	`Caeryn`	`actually Cairenn I only know that curse person in here whose name starts with a [cu]`
`00:33.38`	`Caeryn`	`I didn't know there was anyone else here from curse`
`00:33.56`	`Caeryn`	`also pie sucks realy badly while cake is so awesome`
`00:34.02`	`Cairenn`	`Kaelten, Werik, Guillotine when he's here & NeT`
`00:34.05`	`Shadowed`	`icecream > pie > cake`
`00:34.19`	`Shadowed`	`Guillotine and KaeltenAway are curse?`
`00:35.10`	`Caeryn`	`ssee i only knew Werik was from cursed`
`00:35.23`	`Cairenn`	`now you know :)`
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`00:35.35`	`Shadowed`	`Now to find a way to modify the minimap queue icon's dropdown without having to recreate the entire function...fun`
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`00:35.41`	`seebs`	`So, I want to track item usage. It looks like I can do a fair bit of it if I hook (securely) UseContainerItem and UseInventoryItem and check for bank and merchant frame events... Is there an easier way?`
`00:36.05`	`seebs`	`All I want is the name of any items "used" when they get used.`
`00:36.06`	`Caeryn`	`im going to make a mod called "cake > pie"`
`00:36.20`	`Shadowed`	`I'll get it deleted for lying`
`00:36.23`	`Shadowed`	`:p`
`00:36.49`	`seebs`	`"cake > pie. The mod that proves that cake is better than pie. Dependencies: pie > cake"`
`00:36.58`	`Wobin`	`ItemQuality 0 is grey, isn't it?`
`00:37.31`	`Shadowed`	`3 is epic, so 2 blue, 1 green, 0 grey i'd assume`
`00:38.01`	`Caeryn`	`3 is cake 0 is pie`
`00:38.13`	`Caeryn`	`1 is shadowed`
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`00:38.28`	`Shadowed`	`:(`
`00:38.36`	`Grem`	`Anyone using the latest Auctioneer?`
`00:38.36`	SP\|Sorren`	`what if you had a pie filled with cake?`
`00:38.42`	`seebs`	`Grem: Not successfully.`
`00:38.53`	`Shadowed`	`Oh oops Wobin. 0 grey, 1 white, 2 green, 3 blue, 4 purple`
`00:39.00`	`Grem`	`Yeah, mine made a 1.5 meg auctioneer file on it's first scan`
`00:39.10`	`Wobin`	`Shadowed: ta =)`
`00:39.18`	`Shadowed`	`we all know that mint chocolate chip icecream is better then pie AND cake anyway`
`00:39.29`	`cladhaire`	`mm`
`00:39.31`	`cladhaire`	`ice cream`
`00:39.32`	`cladhaire`	`brb`
`00:39.36`	`Caeryn`	`hmm i kinda like chocolate chocolate cake`
`00:39.37`	`Wobin`	`And then there's TimTams`
`00:40.01`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`depends on ice cream brand`
`00:40.12`	`Wobin`	`And the TimTamSuck with liqueur coffee == ultimate indulgence`
`00:40.25`	`Caeryn`	`i do like my haagen daaz`
`00:40.36`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`bah... Blue Bell > All`
`00:41.02`	`Caeryn`	`actually i like cheesecake more than i like chocolate cake`
`00:41.12`	`Caeryn`	`its cheese and its cake!`
`00:41.15`	`Caeryn`	`everyone wins!`
`00:41.18`	`cladhaire`	`Wobin: <3 Tim Tams =)`
`00:41.23`	`cladhaire`	`they lasted for like.. a day`
`00:41.23`	`Shadowed`	`it's cream cheese actually!`
`00:41.30`	`Wobin`	`^^`
`00:41.38`	`Wobin`	`Have you done the TimTamSuck?`
`00:41.50`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`00:42.12`	`cladhaire`	`what are some skills that say, require a specific weapon to be equipped`
`00:42.13`	`Wobin`	`Basically put your TimTams in the fridge til cold... make yourself a nice hot drink, tea/coffee/hotchocolate/etc`
`00:42.18`	`cladhaire`	`besides Shield Slam and Backstab`
`00:42.23`	`Wobin`	`Ambush`
`00:42.34`	`Wobin`	`Majority of rogue ones`
`00:42.38`	`cladhaire`	`other than rogues`
`00:42.46`	`Wobin`	`Then bite off opposite corners of the cold timtam`
`00:42.50`	`Shadowed`	`cladhaire: Shield Bash`
`00:42.53`	`Wobin`	`insert one end into drink and other into mouth`
`00:43.00`	`cladhaire`	`Wobin: k`
`00:43.05`	`Shadowed`	`Devastate`
`00:43.09`	`Wobin`	`suck hard then cram the entire melty concoction into mouth as fast as possible`
`00:43.16`	SP\|Sorren`	`hunter skills require a ranged weapon, does that count? :p`
`00:43.33`	`cladhaire`	`Wobin: oh wow`
`00:43.33`	`cladhaire`	`haha`
`00:43.34`	`cladhaire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:43.35`	`Shadowed`	`Shield block requires a shield clad`
`00:43.48`	`cladhaire`	`I'm looking for good macros for [equipped] for the book =)`
`00:43.51`	`JoshBorke`	`yea clad! don't n00b so much!`
`00:43.53`	`Shadowed`	`Annnd thats all I can remember that requires have that require a specific reason`
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`00:44.13`	`Shadowed`	`Shield Block = Shield, Devastate = 1H Melee, Shield Bash = Shield`
`00:44.17`	`cladhaire`	`Shadowed: What would you use opposite Shield Bash.. like what would make sense on the macro?`
`00:44.32`	`JoshBorke`	`heroic strike!`
`00:44.51`	`Shadowed`	`I try to avoid macros like that actually, so i'm not a good person to ask :p`
`00:44.58`	SP\|Sorren`	`pummel?`
`00:45.01`	`cladhaire`	`you can heroic strike with a shield, imo`
`00:45.09`	`Shadowed`	`You can heroic strike with any melee weapon`
`00:45.12`	`cladhaire`	`aye`
`00:45.22`	`Shadowed`	`pummel only requires you to be in berserker stance, no weapon requirement actually`
`00:45.40`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`00:45.50`	`cladhaire`	`do you have another interrupt that works in all stances?`
`00:46.07`	`cladhaire`	`or is SS it?`
`00:46.07`	`Caeryn`	`backstab requires you to have a dagger`
`00:46.21`	`cladhaire`	`nod I already have that Caeryn I'm a rogue =)`
`00:46.21`	`Shadowed`	`Nope, "Technically" we have Intimidating shout, but that's a 3 minute cooldown, any stance, no weapon requirement and costs 25 rage.`
`00:46.23`	`Caeryn`	`no clad, shield slam works in defensive, and pummel in the other two stances`
`00:46.30`	`Shadowed`	`no pummel is berserker only :p`
`00:46.47`	`Caeryn`	`oh ok maybe shield slam in battle too`
`00:47.19`	`Shadowed`	`Shield Bash is the interrupt ( works in battle stance too, forgot! ) Shield Slam is the 31 pt prot talent`
`00:47.31`	`Shadowed`	`sorry clad, trying to code and talk :p`
`00:47.32`	`Caeryn`	`goddamn i did mean shield bash`
`00:47.40`	`Caeryn`	`captain pie got me :(`
`00:47.45`	`cladhaire`	`hehe np`
`00:47.52`	`Shadowed`	`I think this proves the pie > cake theory Caeryn`
`00:47.54`	`seebs`	`Hey, Lua newbie question. Is there a cheap way to concatenate a table onto another table?`
`00:48.24`	`seebs`	`I can do something like for i,v in pairs(t2) do t1.insert(v) end -- but that seems expensive.`
`00:49.06`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`another question from me... table.foreachi(members, out); (out is just DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(text);) doesn't print the elements in the table, but "1 2 3 4 5 6 ....."... whats wrong?`
`00:50.15`	`seebs`	`Sounds like it's printing the indexes. Use foreach instead of foreachi.`
`00:50.18`	`Wobin`	`seebs: I reckon that's the only way`
`00:50.24`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`mmm, pie: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/pie/`
`00:50.27`	`Wobin`	`actually don't use foreach at all`
`00:50.28`	`seebs`	`<-- might be wrong, I've been stupid today.`
`00:50.30`	`Wobin`	`since it's depreciated`
`00:50.47`	`Wobin`	`use for i,v in (i)pairs(tablename)`
`00:51.26`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`foreach = same output. gonna try ur way wobin.`
`00:52.05`	`Wobin`	`oh that's ipairs or pairs`
`00:52.09`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`how would the syntax then look like Wobin ?`
`00:52.15`	`Wobin`	`depending on whether your table is indexed or not`
`00:53.10`	`Wobin`	`for i,v in pairs(members) do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(i..":"..v) end`
`00:53.21`	`Wobin`	`or ipairs`
`00:53.28`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`ah, then i is the index, and v the content`
`00:53.28`	`Wobin`	`I don't think it matters in this instance`
`00:53.34`	`Wobin`	`aye`
`00:53.43`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`sweet, its working :)`
`00:55.03`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`so, is there an xml element like a table or something, to grafically print this data? or just use some labels?`
`00:55.43`	`Wobin`	`you'd have to generate your own frames I suspect`
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`01:06.17`	`seebs`	`Well, found two more trivial typos in my addon. Fixed!`
`01:08.10`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`SO UM`
`01:08.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`er caps`
`01:08.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`so um, i found the Ronnie James Dio NES game.`
`01:08.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Holy Diver.`
`01:08.29`	`Cide`	`-re`
`01:08.35`	`Cide`	`oops`
`01:08.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`It's Megaman. With Dio.`
`01:11.09`	`seebs`	`I am finding it very frustrating to find out just how much my early thoughts of "hey, this works" turned out to be wrong.`
`01:12.27`	SP\|Sorren`	`it happens`
`01:14.29`	`seebs`	`Yeah, but I'm obviously way out of practice. I changed the size of some scrolling lists, but didn't update the corresponding calls to the UI code, so they didn't start scrolling when they filled up. Oops!`
`01:14.46`	`seebs`	`Well, 0.04 had to happen eventually.`
`01:15.08`	`seebs`	`I figure by 0.10 I should be up to some kind of basically stable functionality.`
`01:18.12`	SP\|Sorren`	`did curse disable file updates?`
`01:18.33`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Do you have the same problem, with the confirmation?`
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`01:19.00`	SP\|Sorren`	`er i cant find the edit project button`
`01:19.09`	`[Cu]Werik`	`hm`
`01:19.14`	`[Cu]Werik`	`great:P`
`01:19.14`	SP\|Sorren`	`well now im getting a blank page ;(`
`01:19.40`	SP\|Sorren`	`oh there it goes, but there's only "Submit Patch"`
`01:19.43`	`[Cu]Werik`	`blank page means too much traffic`
`01:20.01`	SP\|Sorren`	`er Submit Plugin`
`01:21.39`	`bnovc`	`does anyone else have trouble with fubar not updating? it will say the time is the same for a long time, same with other things`
`01:22.13`	`ckknight`	`did you get any errors?`
`01:22.22`	`bnovc`	`nope`
`01:22.39`	`bnovc`	`also, i used a mod before that showed me a progress bar when i was flying, and i was wondering if anyone knew what that was`
`01:25.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`enhancedflightmap maybe`
`01:26.06`	`Corr[home]`	`could have been just flightmap, but i've never heard of enhancedflightmap`
`01:26.46`	`bnovc`	`i wish ccwatch would update, antognist and the other one i have take up my entire screen with a lot of stuff i dont care about :(`
`01:27.12`	`SP\|Sorren`	`what class are you?`
`01:27.15`	`bnovc`	`i'll try out flightmap, thanks`
`01:27.18`	`bnovc`	`SP\|Sorren: i play a mage and rogue`
`01:27.27`	`SP\|Sorren`	`want to try my mod? :p`
`01:27.42`	`bnovc`	`maybe, have a screenshot?`
`01:27.45`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i just fixed rogue skills, and added mage skills last night ;p`
`01:28.19`	`bnovc`	`i think i used ccwatch before, and it gave me a nice rounded bar thing that had a time to the left and wasnt obtrusive but the new one i tried is obnoxious`
`01:28.46`	`SP\|Sorren`	`er, hm a screenshot.`
`01:30.35`	`SP\|Sorren`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/whatsyoursteezo/XanUI.jpg <--thats not my screen shot, but those bars in the middle with Flare and Freezing trap on em are what it looks like`
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`01:31.08`	`bnovc`	`eh, that looks identical to what i have now`
`01:31.10`	`moonmoon`	`can anyone help me with a gmatch string if a have a string`
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`01:32.03`	`bnovc`	`SP\|Sorren: i like the way this one looks a lot more except i'd prefer it in a language i know: http://wow.duowan.com/uimg/2006/5/4/sun/cc1_155281.jpg`
`01:32.07`	`bnovc`	`(just found randomly on google)`
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`01:34.22`	`SP\|Sorren`	`oo :(`
`01:34.58`	`bnovc`	`SP\|Sorren: do you play a rogue`
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`01:35.35`	`moonmoon`	`trying to match "--(%d*)\|c(%x+)\|Hitem:(%p?%d+:%p?%d+:%p?%d+:%p?%d+:%p?%d+:%p?%d+:%p?%d+)\|h%[(.-)%]\|h\|r" on "?\|cff1eff00\|Hitnem:20408:0:0:0:0:0:0:1135449966\|h[Twilight Culsist Cowl]\|r"`
`01:35.39`	`moonmoon`	`please help :)`
`01:36.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`so many variables`
`01:36.05`	`Cide`	`Hitnem`
`01:36.25`	`Cide`	`unless that was a typo when pasting it here`
`01:37.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`moonmoon, well one thing i notice is ]\|h\|r at the end of the first and ]\|r at the end of the second`
`01:37.08`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i actually play a hunter`
`01:38.14`	`Silph`	`hey, I think this might be a common problem but since the forums are down ill just ask here. Whenever I try to execute a macro using Bartender3, it gives me the Ace2 has been blocked msg. any thoughts?`
`01:38.16`	`moonmoon`	`cool, still not matching though`
`01:39.00`	`SP\|Sorren`	`what's %p do?`
`01:39.22`	`MentalPower\|Busy`	`STS-116 (Discovery Space Shuttle) is GO for launch, T-9mins and counting`
`01:39.27`	`SP\|Sorren`	`ah, nvm`
`01:39.35`	`moonmoon`	`%p: represents all punctuation characters.`
`01:39.44`	`Kirkburn`	`MentalPower\|Busy, awesome`
`01:39.51`	`moonmoon`	`not sure why it is needed`
`01:40.01`	`MentalPower\|Busy`	`http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/`
`01:40.21`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i hear the ids can be negative or something`
`01:40.23`	`MentalPower\|Busy`	`moonmoon: cause the new itemlinks can have negative numbers in them`
`01:40.25`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`hm, how can I fill a ui frame dynamically with data from my code?`
`01:40.28`	`Maldivia`	`moonmoon: if you want it to match ingame item links, then you're a %d short`
`01:40.38`	`SP\|Sorren`	`but i don't know why you'd use %p over %-`
`01:40.50`	`SP\|Sorren`	`is it faster?`
`01:41.06`	`Silph`	`anyone? :)`
`01:41.09`	`Maldivia`	`moonmoon: your match string checks for 7 numbers, there are 8 in the link`
`01:41.19`	`moonmoon`	`mal: just fixed that`
`01:41.29`	`moonmoon`	`new string is ("(%d*)\|c(%x+)\|Hitem:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)\|h%[(.-)%]\|r")`
`01:41.48`	`Maldivia`	`moonmoon: the second to last %d should be: %-?%d`
`01:41.58`	`Maldivia`	`+`
`01:42.02`	`bnovc`	`how can i find working versions of addons on wowinterface.com? how come non-working ones arne't just deleted?`
`01:42.04`	`wereHamster`	`moonmoon, the string begins with '?\|' and your pattern is '(%d*)\|' (and %d is a number IIRC)`
`01:42.05`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`Cide ment it was Hitnem up there`
`01:42.08`	`bnovc`	`if i search for onebag i find it but the old one`
`01:42.42`	`SP\|Sorren`	`use their front page`
`01:42.53`	`Maldivia`	`moonmoon: still missing the \|h before \|r in the end, as Arrowmaster mentioned`
`01:42.57`	`MentalPower\|Busy`	`moonmoon: that will fail for negative numbers in the string`
`01:42.58`	`bnovc`	`there are a lot more working mods than on the front page`
`01:43.06`	`bnovc`	`onebag is not on the front page`
`01:43.17`	`SP\|Sorren`	`those are all that have been updated for 2.0`
`01:43.20`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i think`
`01:43.27`	`bnovc`	`SP\|Sorren: nope, cause onebag has been updated i know`
`01:43.30`	`bnovc`	`i used it on my other comp`
`01:44.42`	`bnovc`	`ill try the onebag thats on the site i guess`
`01:45.53`	`wereHamster`	`moonmoon, try "(%d*)\|c(%x+)\|Hitem:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)\|h%[(.-)%]\|h\|r"`
`01:46.04`	`moonmoon`	`trying`
`01:46.45`	`ckknight`	`"(%d*)\|c(%x+)\|Hitem:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%-?%d+:%d+)\|h%[(.-)%]\|h\|r"`
`01:47.03`	`moonmoon`	`wereHamster: IT WORKS!`
`01:47.45`	`wereHamster`	`moonmoon, you better take ckknight's version.. he probably knows how to correctly use patterns`
`01:47.54`	`bnovc`	`yea, the onebag on wowinterface.com does not work`
`01:48.00`	`bnovc`	`but i know there is a working version`
`01:48.41`	`SP\|Sorren`	`try curse`
`01:48.46`	`SP\|Sorren`	`or worldofwar`
`01:48.49`	`[Cu]Werik`	`woooooooosh`
`01:48.52`	`[Cu]Werik`	`aaand liftoff;P`
`01:49.16`	`ckknight`	`actually, I dunno why that first (%d*) is there.`
`01:49.32`	`ckknight`	`"\|c(%x+)\|Hitem:(%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+:%-?%d+:%d+)\|h%[(.-)%]\|h\|r" is the best you'll come by`
`01:49.48`	`ckknight`	`but frankly, I'd just steal the item link and reconstruct the item from that, easy to get the colors and whatnot from there`
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`01:50.05`	`moonmoon`	`ck: sometimes users pass in a number at the begining of the string`
`01:50.10`	`moonmoon`	`like 2?blah`
`01:51.41`	`moonmoon`	`and it works so perfectly :)`
`01:51.49`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`i really cant find out how to get dynamic data into my frame :(`
`01:52.16`	`Kaso`	`FontString:SetText(whatever)`
`01:52.50`	`seebs`	`Yup! Lots of SetText.`
`01:55.08`	`Kirov`	`Does GetRaidRosterInfo's zone info return the same value as GetRealZoneText or GetMinimapZoneText?`
`01:55.57`	`Kaso`	`im pretty sure its GetRealZoneText`
`01:56.08`	`Shadowed`	`what kaso said`
`01:57.10`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`seebs/kaso and if i have a table and the rows are variable? :)`
`01:58.06`	`Kaso`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API shows all the functions you can apply to UI Elements to make em change`
`02:04.37`	`Kaso`	`i wonder if anyone else has seen this`
`02:04.56`	`Kaso`	`when i hovver over my addons, it says Depenecies : ,<Something>`
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`02:05.51`	`seebs`	`Hmm?`
`02:06.02`	`Silph`	`Anyone have the time to help me out with this? I have a macro ("/cast [stance:1/2,noequipped:Shields] Berserker Stance; [stance:1/2,equipped:Shields] Shield Bash; [stance:3] Pummel ") put in a bartender3 button, but the UI blocks it whenever I use it. any ideas?`
`02:06.02`	`seebs`	`Well, what do you mean by "variable"?`
`02:06.15`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`thx, trying to pick the useful stuff from there...`
`02:06.25`	`seebs`	`If you have a set of UI elements with names like "TableEntry3Text", "TableEntry4Text", you can do:`
`02:06.43`	`seebs`	`getglobal("TableEntry" .. i .. "Text"):SetText("HAH! Didn't see THAT one coming!")`
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`02:07.23`	`Kirkburn`	`[Cu]Werik, CG doesn't seem to be recording the downloads of my addon atm - this a known issue?`
`02:07.32`	`Silph`	`any ideas?`
`02:07.54`	`[Cu]Werik`	`We record them, but it's not shown on the site atm. So yes, it is known.`
`02:08.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Okies :)`
`02:10.06`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`seebs do you mean me? :o with that table thingy`
`02:10.08`	`wereHamster`	`Kaso, I get that, too. probably a bug in WoW`
`02:10.41`	`Kirkburn`	`[Cu]Werik, it's also known that addon comments are out of order?`
`02:11.28`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`ah i guess so...`
`02:11.36`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Most probably.`
`02:12.40`	`netcurse`	`Yes it is :)`
`02:12.54`	`Kirkburn`	`coolness =)`
`02:16.05`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`i'd need a xml element that i can fill with an indefinite amount of rows of data...`
`02:16.46`	`rmc\|Chaelan`	`ScrollFrame ?`
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`02:20.24`	`cladhaire`	`Anyone willing to log into Hellfire Alliance and die for me?`
`02:20.47`	`Shadowed`	`sure`
`02:20.57`	`cladhaire`	`just tell me where I need to go =)`
`02:21.18`	`Shadowed`	`honor hold?`
`02:21.24`	`cladhaire`	`hrm, i dont have a FP there.`
`02:21.27`	`seebs`	`rmc: Yes.`
`02:21.29`	`cladhaire`	`i'm in shatt, or any main city`
`02:21.31`	`seebs`	`FauxScrollFrame, I think.`
`02:21.53`	`seebs`	`You just set up a thing with an array of objects next to it, and the widget sends you offsets, and you draw the corresponding rows from your table.`
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`02:21.59`	`seebs`	`<plug> There's three of them in AnnoyRP.`
`02:22.04`	`seebs`	`</plug>`
`02:23.30`	`cladhaire`	`WHY are Draenai russian?`
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`02:25.04`	`seebs`	`Clad: Because in Soviet Russia, Paladin plays you!`
`02:25.12`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`02:25.29`	`Kirov`	`isn't that Soviet Outland?`
`02:25.52`	`seebs`	`A friend of mine says "In dyslexic Soviet Russia, you watch TV!"`
`02:26.25`	`Wobin`	`I love the slavic voices`
`02:27.35`	`seebs`	`Hey, anyone here able to approve my update to AnnoyRP?`
`02:27.50`	`seebs`	`I found a stupid bug that required an update a while back.`
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`02:28.10`	`Kirov`	`I'll approve it.`
`02:28.26`	`Kirov`	`Though, I don't admin any addon sites`
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`02:28.43`	`Kirov`	`Feel free to slap "Approved by Kirov" on there someplace`
`02:29.42`	`cladhaire`	`seebs: its not in queue`
`02:32.44`	`seebs`	`Huh. That's odd; it shows as pending. Maybe my browser's confused.`
`02:33.00`	`seebs`	`Ahh. Now it doesn't show as pending.`
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`02:40.24`	WrK`oFF	`Good night`
`02:40.56`	`Cairenn`	night WrK`oFF
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`03:13.22`	`Shadowed`	`So calling SetText on a menu still is tainting it and making stuff like player frame drop downs not work I take it?`
`03:15.41`	`Caeryn`	`you know binding F5 to /script ReloadUI() in WoW would be so damned literal`
`03:17.16`	`nevcairiel`	`hehe`
`03:18.52`	`Wobin`	`hehe Caeryn`
`03:19.02`	`Wobin`	`I've done that before on testing toons`
`03:19.17`	`Kirkburn`	`That's an awesome idea`
`03:20.52`	`Kaso`	`What event gets called when you switch stances?`
`03:21.09`	`Shadowed`	`PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED I think`
`03:21.22`	`Kaso`	`that makes sense`
`03:39.03`	`Kaso`	`if i were to securehook UseAction would i get my Function called before the actual action is used`
`03:39.53`	`Tem`	`that depends on if UseAction actually performs the action`
`03:40.05`	`Kaso`	`howd you mean?`
`03:40.09`	`Tem`	`it's a post hook`
`03:40.29`	`Tem`	`so unless UseAction only requests the action (and doesn't actually perform it), you'll get called after`
`03:43.02`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`so glad castsequence is in`
`03:43.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`no more totemstomper needs`
`03:48.02`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`HOLY DIVER`
`03:48.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TOO LONG IN THE MIDNIGHT SEA`
`03:48.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`get it out of my miiiind`
`03:52.38`	`seebs`	`How does one make tab jump from one field to another in a form?`
`03:54.29`	`seebs`	`Or, perhaps more generally: How can I set focus on a given object? I have a pop-up menu where it'd be nice if, the moment you select something, your cursor appears in a nearby text field with the existing contents selected.`
`03:55.56`	`Caeryn`	`how do you apply an alpha blending texture to an icon/button?`
`03:56.14`	`Shadowed`	`seebs: Focus(); I believe`
`03:56.30`	`Caeryn`	`netcurse: i can't send privmsgs :P I haven't registered my nick`
`03:56.44`	`netcurse`	`ah`
`03:56.52`	`netcurse`	`come here then #helloworld`
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`03:57.01`	`Shadowed`	`Ah, SetFocus() for edit boxes. wiki is your friend :p`
`03:57.34`	`seebs`	`Ahh, thanks. And HighlightText().`
`03:57.40`	`seebs`	`Soon my interface will hardly suck at ALL.`
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`04:05.05`	`phreaky`	`How does this focus work? For example if i focus on one target and polymorphs it in a macro, and changes target, and press poly agani.. will it poly the target i focused earlier?`
`04:05.44`	`Shadowed`	`focus is basically another unitid. So you can set a polymorph target to focus, then you can make a macro that does /cast [target=focus] Polymorph and it'll cast the spell on the focus target without having to change it`
`04:05.46`	`Caeryn`	`if you just cast polymorph it will not, but if you /cast [target=focus] POlymorph it will or if you /target focus /cast Polymorph that will as wel too`
`04:06.23`	`phreaky`	`focus is removed when a target dies then`
`04:06.55`	`Shadowed`	`I'd imagine it is, but havn't tested it that much yet`
`04:07.29`	`Caeryn`	`i'd imagine focus is removed when the unit is destroyed, after the corse is gone and all that`
`04:07.44`	`Caeryn`	`so you can possibly battlerez a focused player`
`04:07.51`	`Caeryn`	`if it is removed at all`
`04:08.02`	`Shadowed`	`good point`
`04:08.55`	`phreaky`	`Thanks for the help :)`
`04:09.02`	`phreaky`	`I got a bit better view over its functions now =)`
`04:09.24`	`Shadowed`	`We don't have a nofocus option I take it/`
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`04:09.35`	`phreaky`	`Hm, dont think so.`
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`04:19.24`	`Caeryn`	`sooo nev?`
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`04:22.22`	`seebs`	`Woot! I wrote a single function which handles tabs in all my edit fields. Yay for naming conventions.`
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`04:33.09`	`sysrage`	`that focus thing is awesome. i just set up my normal sheep button to set focus, then added a new one to re-sheep. is it possible though to make it so if my normal sheep button is bound to ~ if i hold alt while hitting ~ it will do the re-sheep?`
`04:34.06`	`Mike-N-Go`	`If you can imagine it, it is possible.`
`04:34.08`	`Shadowed`	`Sheep target when you hit ~, Sheep focus target when holding ALT and hitting ~? I'd imagine you could do that, but don't know the logic offhand`
`04:34.58`	`bleetah`	`hmm, download link on curse-gaming for GroupCalendar is pointing to 3.0.1 and not the newer 3.0.2... anyone have any ideas where I should go to report this?`
`04:35.05`	`seebs`	`I am really, really, happy with the improvements in this interface. I am having way too much fun.`
`04:35.05`	`abug`	`if it's a macro you should be able to, sysrage`
`04:35.07`	`Caeryn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:35.27`	`sysrage`	`oooh modifier? it's that easy?`
`04:36.22`	`sysrage`	`well that doesn't really do what i need. cause i need the non modifier one to do /focus first`
`04:36.49`	`Caeryn`	`explain what you want to do again`
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`04:36.59`	`Seracht`	`What is a good replacement for eCastingbar?`
`04:37.24`	`abug`	`he hits it normally, it casts sheep and sets his target to focus, he holds alt it casts sheep on the focus`
`04:37.32`	`sysrage`	`right`
`04:37.33`	`sysrage`	`what he said`
`04:37.54`	`abug`	`which I'm not sure how it could be done`
`04:38.11`	`abug`	`maybe with a secure button`
`04:38.17`	`Cairenn`	`Seracht: eCastingBar :p`
`04:38.20`	`Cairenn`	`Seracht: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5546-eCastingBarforWoW2.0.html`
`04:38.31`	`Seracht`	`:)`
`04:38.40`	`Seracht`	`Someone was mentioning oCB or something`
`04:38.41`	`Seracht`	`is that good?`
`04:38.53`	`phreaky`	`ocb is good, but last time i tested it it dint have the enemy castbar`
`04:38.56`	`Caeryn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:39.08`	`Caeryn`	`whoops`
`04:39.14`	`Caeryn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:39.35`	`Seracht`	`phreaky isn't the enemy castbar based on unit frames`
`04:39.52`	`phreaky`	`Well ocasting bar has a great one anyway`
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`04:40.01`	`phreaky`	`ecastingbar*`
`04:40.08`	`phreaky`	`I dont know about it beeing based on unitframes`
`04:40.26`	`phreaky`	`But ecb has a bar that is very easy to see ..`
`04:40.38`	`Seracht`	`:)`
`04:40.45`	`phreaky`	`movable and scalable`
`04:40.46`	`Seracht`	`Thanks`
`04:40.53`	`Caeryn`	`ok so, this business with alpha textures`
`04:40.54`	`phreaky`	`That, i missed in ocb so i changed..`
`04:41.54`	`eta3w5`	`anyone have a valid link to ClearFont v11100-3 (fontlesS) ?`
`04:42.12`	`bleetah`	`why not use the 2.0 clearfont?`
`04:42.23`	`eta3w5`	`eh i dont like the font in this new one`
`04:43.02`	`Cairenn`	`then get an archived version: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4283-ClearFont.html`
`04:43.08`	`sysrage`	`caeryn: you rock. ty very much`
`04:43.38`	`Caeryn`	`np`
`04:43.43`	`eta3w5`	`I only see v20000-1 in the archived versions`
`04:45.03`	`Cairenn`	`hmm, you're right ... Kirk may have deleted the old archived versions`
`04:45.09`	`Cairenn`	`have you checked his home page?`
`04:45.25`	`bleetah`	`just looked, not their either`
`04:45.36`	`eta3w5`	`yep no where`
`04:45.48`	`eta3w5`	`any old versions for that matter, can't find anything, searched google , etc`
`04:45.50`	`bleetah`	`seem to remember reading there was a problem with a font, maybe he had to remove it all completely`
`04:45.59`	`bleetah`	`although that may have been earlier news.. not sure`
`04:46.00`	`eta3w5`	`curse-gaming archives are removed lol`
`04:46.07`	`Cairenn`	`then he's pulled them`
`04:46.22`	`Cairenn`	`I know we (the staff at wowi) didn't`
`04:46.36`	`Cairenn`	`he must have actively removed them himself`
`04:46.54`	`bleetah`	`" Perspective Sans replaces Francophil Sans as the default font."`
`04:46.58`	`seebs`	`AnnoyRP 0.05 is up in the queue, unless someone's already gotten it. :)`
`04:47.10`	`eta3w5`	`I was able to find a "font pacK" but I can't match the names cause I dont remember the actual names of the fonts`
`04:47.19`	`seebs`	`I have successfully implemented what seem to be reasonably good DWIM behaviors for tab and enter presses in text fields.`
`04:47.21`	`eta3w5`	`wait which one was it bleet?`
`04:47.35`	`bleetah`	`i'm just reading the clearfont site's changelog`
`04:47.44`	`eta3w5`	`hm`
`04:47.51`	`Cairenn`	`seebs: you don't need to tell us, we know within 60 seconds if there's a mod in the queue`
`04:48.05`	`seebs`	`Oh, nevermind then. :)`
`04:48.11`	`Cairenn`	`:)`
`04:48.13`	`seebs`	`You do excellent work.`
`04:49.36`	`Seracht`	`cya`
`04:50.43`	`sysrage`	`caeryn: any chance it's just as easy to not do the /setfocus if you don't have a target? yes i'm just getting picky now, and probably too complex :)`
`04:51.07`	`ckknight`	`interesting mod, seebs`
`04:51.14`	`seebs`	`Thanks.`
`04:51.25`	`seebs`	`The big thing I want but haven't got right now is a way to detect item USAGE.`
`04:51.43`	`seebs`	`Not "equipping" or "putting in bank" or "selling to merchant", but actual activations of devices with a Use effect.`
`04:51.47`	`Cairenn`	`that wasn't me being snotty, btw, just telling you. only reason a mod sits in the queue for any length of time is if we all happen to be afk at the same time (sleep anyone?) or if there is some "question" about a mod that is in there, that has us discussing it with each other before approving or denying`
`04:52.07`	`seebs`	`No problem. I interpreted it as informative data, not as hostility. :)`
`04:52.14`	`Cairenn`	`k, just making sure`
`04:52.16`	`seebs`	`(I cheat; I just treat EVERYTHING that way if I can. Makes life easier.)`
`04:52.38`	`Cairenn`	`way tired, not completely sure how things I'm saying are coming across at this point`
`04:52.46`	`seebs`	`If I can figure out a way to snag item events, I'll be golden. I already have pet bar events, although I just treat them as spells cast for now.`
`04:54.03`	`seebs`	`Now it's just a matter of writing a perl script to read my old SpeakEasy macros and turn them into AnnoyRP data.`
`04:54.16`	`seebs`	`...`
`04:54.16`	`Caeryn`	`sysrage: say what you want again? in a different way`
`04:55.11`	`sysrage`	`ok the script you gave me for sheeping/resheeping.. currently if i hit it without the modifier and i have nothing targeted, it unsets the focus. would it be easy to prevent that?`
`04:55.56`	`sysrage`	`guess it's a macro, not a script, but ya`
`04:57.00`	`Caeryn`	`so you want it to unset the focus only if you have something targeted?`
`04:57.23`	`sysrage`	`ya`
`04:57.41`	`sysrage`	`really not important, was just curious if that'd be easy to do`
`04:58.03`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ`
`04:58.54`	`seebs`	`Hello, Iriel. Looks like ChanServ thinks highly of you.`
`04:58.58`	`Kirkburn`	`Cairenn, I never removed the old versions`
`04:59.11`	`Caeryn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:59.33`	`Cairenn`	`hmmmm`
`04:59.33`	`Kirkburn`	`eta3w5, you want http://www.kirkburn.eu/Hosted/Font_Pack.zip`
`04:59.44`	`eta3w5`	`I tried that man which one is it exactly?`
`04:59.51`	`Kirkburn`	`(I linked it in the comments sections, but it's kinda hidden)`
`04:59.53`	`eta3w5`	`I just rebooted wow like 15 times with every one and it doesn't seem to match`
`05:00.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Perspective Sans I think was the last one`
`05:00.24`	`Kirkburn`	`If not that, Francophil`
`05:00.29`	`sysrage`	`Caeryn: unknown option: target`
`05:00.31`	`eta3w5`	`thats the Fontless one supposedly?`
`05:00.47`	`eta3w5`	`ill try those two again`
`05:00.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Well, er, the fontless one was ... er ... fontless :P`
`05:01.03`	`eta3w5`	`hmm well I dont remember if it was that then`
`05:01.10`	`Caeryn`	`whoops`
`05:01.16`	`Caeryn`	`sysrage: let me think about it`
`05:01.19`	`sysrage`	`k`
`05:01.21`	`eta3w5`	`a good example would be, did you ever see DnT's website when they were killing the first couple of bosses in naxx in the first week?`
`05:01.25`	`Kirkburn`	`Gimme a sec, I'll look it up`
`05:01.32`	`eta3w5`	`whoever had the SS's linked, that version of clearfont`
`05:01.45`	`Caeryn`	`try /setfocus [harm]`
`05:01.48`	`eta3w5`	`other then that I can't really explain it lol`
`05:02.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Wow, er so I was wrong`
`05:02.22`	`Kirkburn`	`Lucida Sans :P`
`05:02.36`	`eta3w5`	`k let me try that`
`05:02.37`	`Kirkburn`	`(christ, have I really changed it that often? :( )`
`05:02.42`	`eta3w5`	`hah`
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`05:02.50`	`sysrage`	`caeryn: that worked, but now it's changing the focus when i do the modifier one :\`
`05:03.21`	`Caeryn`	`so if you press alt it is changing focus?`
`05:03.25`	`sysrage`	`ya`
`05:03.47`	`seebs`	`You know, for all that there's complaints about the 2.x UI features...`
`05:03.49`	`Kirkburn`	`Cairenn, I'm not bothered that they're gone, really doesn't matter to me. But I certainly don't recall removing any`
`05:04.13`	`seebs`	`It took me less time to write AnnoyRP, complete with GUI, than it took me to write a mod that did nothing but trap spell events and hand the rest of the work off to SpeakEasy.`
`05:05.04`	`eta3w5`	`hey kirk look at this, its probably hard to tell`
`05:05.05`	`eta3w5`	`http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/agamos/Other%20WoW/varikleanballz.jpg`
`05:05.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Hmm, looks more condensed than Lucida`
`05:06.15`	`eta3w5`	`yeah I tried everyone in the font_pack dont think I saw it but I might have missed it, do you think you know which font that is?`
`05:06.55`	`sysrage`	`caeryn: actually it's changing focus with or without the [harm]. i must have screwed something up. it was working a minute ago :\`
`05:07.14`	`Caeryn`	`sysrage: did you take out the [modifier:alt]`
`05:07.28`	`Kirkburn`	`eta3w5, for a long time I used Lucida Sans, so I can only think it's that or they chose another themselves`
`05:07.29`	`Caeryn`	`i thought about it and it doesn't make sense that it wouldn't work`
`05:08.12`	`eta3w5`	`ah because I downloaded one version of yours, like I randomly picked from curse-gaming but now on curse when I dl it, it says no archives found when I try and extract the .rar file`
`05:08.36`	`eta3w5`	`it matched exactly, i'll try Lucida again`
`05:09.00`	`Kirkburn`	`It did? Well it's either that or Franc :)`
`05:09.23`	`Kirkburn`	`You mean zip? I only use zip files :P`
`05:09.24`	`eta3w5`	`yeah i'll test, one second`
`05:09.28`	`eta3w5`	`oh yea I use winrar :)`
`05:10.57`	`eta3w5`	`LucidaSD looks very similar but it seems a little too bolded`
`05:11.11`	`sysrage`	`Caeryn: ok, what i originally had was this:`
`05:11.21`	`sysrage`	`/cast [modifier:alt,target=focus] Polymorph: Pig; /stopmacro`
`05:11.30`	`sysrage`	`/cast Polymorph: Pig`
`05:11.32`	`sysrage`	`/focus`
`05:11.50`	`sysrage`	`that works for what i originally asked for`
`05:11.57`	`sysrage`	`but it will lose the focus if i don't have a target and i don't hold alt`
`05:12.39`	`Caeryn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:12.46`	`Caeryn`	`make it /stopmacro [modifier:alt]`
`05:12.53`	`Caeryn`	`scroll up and see my last line`
`05:12.54`	`sysrage`	`oh ok`
`05:12.57`	`sysrage`	`sorry`
`05:13.05`	`Caeryn`	`np`
`05:13.20`	`Caeryn`	`i'm pissed because i can't get this alpha texture to work properly`
`05:14.03`	`eta3w5`	`Franc isn't it either Kirk`
`05:14.05`	`eta3w5`	`:(`
`05:14.48`	`sysrage`	`it's still changing focus even when holding alt`
`05:15.32`	`Caeryn`	`join me in #caeryn`
`05:15.41`	`Caeryn`	`because i haven't registered my nick and can't use privmsgs :P`
`05:15.55`	`Cairenn`	`it takes so much effort Caeryn`
`05:15.56`	`Kirkburn`	`eta3w5, well then I'm stumped because then it's not one of the one's I've ever put in :)`
`05:16.05`	`Cairenn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:16.18`	`eta3w5`	`you positive? lol i dont know why they wont work`
`05:16.30`	`eta3w5`	`http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j238/Brilliance1/WoWScrnShot_062306_191431.jpg is another link I think is the same`
`05:16.36`	`eta3w5`	`it doesnt look like anything you've made?`
`05:16.46`	`Kirkburn`	`Now that one is Calibri`
`05:16.55`	`Cairenn`	`eta3w5: any chance it wasn't clearfont at all, but fontabulous?`
`05:17.02`	`eta3w5`	`nah it was clearfont`
`05:17.08`	`eta3w5`	`which v is that Kirk?`
`05:17.26`	`Kirkburn`	`The current >.<`
`05:17.34`	`eta3w5`	`no way lol`
`05:18.20`	`Kirkburn`	`(except the current is an improved version of that as it's a newer version of the font - fixed widths, etc)`
`05:18.50`	`eta3w5`	`and the new one is 1 right? so you'd say that is 0.9?`
`05:18.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Indeed`
`05:19.11`	`eta3w5`	`ok let me see that one again lol sec`
`05:19.16`	`Kirkburn`	`You can tell it's 0.9 by the chat logs - the numbers are different widths`
`05:19.31`	`Kirkburn`	`Makes the combat log look weirdy`
`05:20.05`	`Kirkburn`	`sigh, well I'm getting lots of reports of people being unable to reduce the size of their chat log beyond 13 on the UI sites (but not on the IRC channels). God knows why.`
`05:20.34`	`eta3w5`	`:o`
`05:21.13`	`ckknight`	`Kirkburn, hey, I have the same issue.`
`05:21.25`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah, wtf`
`05:21.28`	`ckknight`	`well, not in the chat log necessarily`
`05:21.33`	`ckknight`	`hadn't tested that`
`05:21.35`	`ckknight`	`but for other stuff`
`05:21.37`	`Kirkburn`	`Live or beta?`
`05:21.56`	`eta3w5`	`Why the hell does my combat log disappear sometimes that shit pisses me off lol`
`05:22.06`	`Kirkburn`	`Because I changed no code in that area, and it seems to work on beta`
`05:22.26`	`ckknight`	`Kirkburn, beta`
`05:22.37`	`ckknight`	`I don't play on live :-P`
`05:22.54`	`Kirkburn`	`Sounds familiar ;)`
`05:23.23`	`gnorlish`	`my font is good on live`
`05:23.26`	`gnorlish`	`just updated today`
`05:23.33`	`Kirkburn`	`What the f*ck.`
`05:23.46`	`Kirkburn`	`What in hell's bells did Blizz do to that code?!`
`05:24.11`	`gnorlish`	`i can go down to 10`
`05:24.27`	`Kirkburn`	`I Same`
`05:25.11`	`Kirkburn`	`With giant jumps between 11-->12, 12-->13`
`05:25.11`	`seebs`	`Kirkburn: The "..." problem in 1.11 shows up on all sorts of resolutions, not just big ones; it hit my spouse's 800x600 windowed mode setup, for instance.`
`05:25.13`	`seebs`	`It also shows up in the vanilla UI occasionally. NOT YOUR FAULT!`
`05:25.26`	`Kirkburn`	`Argh! Blizzard, what are you doing to your code?`
`05:26.02`	`Shadowed`	`I'm guessing Slouken changes it randomly to annoy us`
`05:26.11`	`seebs`	`Not to ANNOY us.`
`05:26.20`	`seebs`	`To make us spend more time fussing with our UI code so we keep our accounts open.`
`05:26.31`	`seebs`	`I don't think I've leveled any character outside a starting zone in two weeks.`
`05:26.34`	`Shadowed`	`since the battlefield minimap code was changed so it doesn't load the correct map when called throught the update battlefield status event :/`
`05:26.51`	`seebs`	`(The L2 hunter I was using to test AnnoyRP early on made 3rd level while I was debugging the event series I get from auto shot.)`
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`05:27.58`	`eta3w5`	`Hey Kirk, it looks really similar just for some wierd reason.. the chat font seems to be thicker and the font on like the character screen is smaller`
`05:29.19`	`Kirkburn`	`gnorlish, it sounds something like they put in a minimum font size?`
`05:29.44`	`Kirkburn`	`Yup`
`05:29.50`	`Kirkburn`	`That's what they've done`
`05:30.02`	`Kirkburn`	`If you put your UI scale to 0.64 it changes`
`05:30.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Cos then I can't go lower than size 14`
`05:30.37`	`eta3w5`	`you play on .64 kirk?`
`05:30.41`	`Kirkburn`	`God no`
`05:30.49`	`eta3w5`	`Hah, what you play on?`
`05:30.54`	`Kirkburn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:31.10`	`Kirkburn`	`(equivalent to 1?)`
`05:31.22`	`eta3w5`	`yeah something about there`
`05:31.59`	`eta3w5`	`some people I know play on the minimum, can't even see anything lol`
`05:32.08`	`Kirkburn`	`At least I have a reason now, even if it is silly`
`05:35.00`	`Kirkburn`	`ckknight, does that make sense for you?`
`05:35.35`	`ckknight`	`unticked UIScale ~= 1.`
`05:35.51`	`Kirkburn`	`Not that, the font size check thingy :P`
`05:35.54`	`ckknight`	`it == 768/GetScreenHeight()`
`05:36.09`	`ckknight`	`yea, it seems likely, but weird, as it doesn't happen without Clearfont`
`05:36.39`	`Kirkburn`	`Hrm`
`05:36.47`	`Kirkburn`	`Bah, I'll come back to it 2moro`
`05:36.53`	`Caeryn`	`kirkburn do you know anything about alpha blended overlaps?`
`05:36.59`	`Kirkburn`	`Nothing whatsoever`
`05:37.30`	`Kirkburn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:38.22`	`Caeryn`	`:)`
`05:39.12`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm off now ... g'night all!`
`05:39.38`	`Cairenn`	`night Kirkburn`
`05:47.45`	`sysrage`	`caeryn: slightly different direction then we were going, but i found a solution on the wiki heh..`
`05:49.19`	`Caeryn`	`nice`
`05:49.21`	`Caeryn`	`what was it`
`05:51.27`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`boored`
`05:51.34`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`need something to do at 46`
`05:51.42`	`sysrage`	`can i paste 5 lines in here or is that a no-no?`
`05:52.56`	`Cairenn`	`given it's quiet, 5 is "okay", any more than that or if it was busy, pasty it, there's a link in the topic`
`05:53.00`	`Caeryn`	`make it 1 line`
`05:53.31`	`sysrage`	`/clearfocus [target=focus,dead] /clearfocus [target=focus,noexists] /focus [target=focus,noexists] /focus [modifier:alt] /cast [target=focus] Polymorph: Pig`
`05:54.38`	`Caeryn`	`nice`
`05:59.50`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`macros play the game for me than they ever did in 1.12, i love it`
`06:00.06`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i had like 2 macros on my druid and like 5 on my hunter before`
`06:00.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`now i have like 10 and 20`
`06:18.37`	`bleetah`	`heh, mate of mine is having hell.. it would appear if he picks up a time quest and it's in quest log position 21-25, it'll immediately fail`
`06:27.22`	`cladhaire`	`night all`
`06:27.39`	`Thunder_Child`	`night clad`
`06:27.59`	`Wobin`	`Cairenn: Could you check that the zipfile I sent for MrPlow is actually 6.2?`
`06:28.07`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge kremonte (n=dan@ool-18b8808d.dyn.optonline.net)`
`06:28.08`	`Wobin`	`Cause I always seem to upload incorrectly =\`
`06:28.13`	`kremonte`	`hmm`
`06:28.18`	`kremonte`	`i seemed to have found a way to remotely crash people`
`06:28.29`	`Wobin`	`Does it involve using LaVendetta? =)`
`06:28.33`	`kremonte`	`nyet`
`06:28.43`	`Cairenn`	`Wobin: aye`
`06:28.49`	`Wobin`	`phew thanks =)`
`06:28.50`	`kremonte`	`who would i report this to?`
`06:28.52`	`kremonte`	`cause hotfix imo`
`06:28.59`	`Cairenn`	`welcome :)`
`06:29.13`	`kremonte`	`i unknowingly do this in gchat, and my entire guild DCed while in naxx`
`06:29.19`	`kremonte`	`Cairenn: any ideas?`
`06:29.20`	`Wobin`	`I'd post it to Slouken`
`06:29.31`	`bleetah`	`shouldn't it go to gmhacks?`
`06:29.38`	`kremonte`	`gmhacks?`
`06:29.42`	`bleetah`	`or.. the hack email address, rather than publically`
`06:29.46`	`kremonte`	`i'm out of the loop`
`06:29.49`	`kremonte`	`it's not a hack`
`06:29.53`	`kremonte`	`it's something you can do with the default UI`
`06:30.07`	`kremonte`	`Wobin: how exactly? i don't want to post this stuff publically`
`06:30.26`	`bleetah`	`it's a hack, in the 'traditional' sense of the term (ie, some guy in his shed just banging away on a keyboard discovers something)`
`06:30.27`	`Wobin`	`Perhaps Cairenn could drop a word into the right ears?`
`06:30.54`	`kremonte`	`Cairenn: hm?`
`06:30.57`	`Cairenn`	`kremonte: send me the details, I'll get it passed along`
`06:30.59`	`kremonte`	`kk`
`06:31.04`	`Kemayo`	`Wobin: I <3 the new greys-at-the-end option.`
`06:31.09`	`Wobin`	`^^`
`06:31.10`	`Cairenn`	`cairenn@wowinterface.com`
`06:31.14`	`kremonte`	`roger`
`06:31.20`	`Wobin`	`A guildie requested it`
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`06:33.06`	`Kemayo`	`Any chance of a non-soulbound-greens-at-the-end option, too? (All the vendor/AH stuff in one place!)`
`06:34.12`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`06:34.46`	`Kemayo`	`I make these requests in blissful ignorance of whether or not they require annoying tooltip-scanning...`
`06:34.49`	`Wobin`	`where is soulboundedness stored?`
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`06:37.42`	`Wobin`	`Hm, no idea Kemayo`
`06:38.18`	`Kemayo`	`Yeah, I was just looking for it, and I can't see any of the item info functions talking about it. I guess it may well require tooltip scanning... which is way too much work.`
`06:38.35`	`seebs`	`Woo! I got my shiny shiny filtering feature working.`
`06:38.50`	`kremonte`	`sent, Cairenn`
`06:38.55`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Mike-N-Go (n=Mike@64.193.93.197)`
`06:38.57`	`kremonte`	`from a hotmail address tho, make sure it's not marked as spam`
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`06:50.29`	`Cairenn`	`kremonte: received and forwarded`
`06:50.57`	`kremonte`	`thanks :)`
`06:51.08`	`Cairenn`	`thank you`
`06:51.13`	`bleetah`	`Cairenn, kremonte: you're both a shining light of responsible bug finding ;)`
`06:51.36`	`seebs`	`WOO! I got my first rating on my mod, and it wasn't even from me.`
`06:51.40`	`seebs`	`<-- this is all new to me.`
`06:51.54`	`kremonte`	`i like to screw with links`
`06:51.56`	`kremonte`	`it passes the time`
`06:52.02`	`kremonte`	`i want fake links back :(`
`06:52.14`	`seebs`	`I am having SOOO much fun with my mod. But man did I break it adding that filter code.`
`06:52.15`	`kremonte`	`[Sulfuras, Hand of Kremonte] was the best`
`06:52.20`	`kremonte`	`seebs: what mod?`
`06:52.22`	`seebs`	`Ah, well. It works again now.`
`06:52.23`	`seebs`	`AnnoyRP.`
`06:52.31`	`seebs`	`It's a mod to do random chatter on spellcasting.`
`06:52.48`	`seebs`	`No macros needed, doesn't care how you cast spells. I wrote it because speakeasy was sort of annoying to me.`
`06:53.17`	`Zicon`	`Haha, brilliant name.`
`06:53.19`	`kremonte`	`does that mean i hate you?`
`06:53.29`	`seebs`	`Well, the thing is...`
`06:53.43`	`Thunder_Child`	`yes`
`06:53.44`	`seebs`	`I know that kind of thing can get annoying when overused. So I wanted to make sure people were ALWAYS reminded.`
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`06:53.54`	`seebs`	`Like, any time they even look at the interface. Or get any message from it.`
`06:53.59`	`kremonte`	`lol`
`06:54.03`	`Caeryn`	`hi there! anyone here knows anything about icon and alpha transparency?`
`06:54.10`	`kremonte`	`see what annoys me is when it's not on a successful spellcast but on a spellcast start`
`06:54.14`	`seebs`	`No, only some people here know anything about them.`
`06:54.18`	`Thunder_Child`	`i know i dont know anything about it`
`06:54.21`	`seebs`	`Kremonte: Yeah. That was why I wrote my mod.`
`06:54.23`	`kremonte`	`so i'm doing strat live and my chatbox is full of this mage SPAMMING his poly key`
`06:54.26`	`seebs`	`Well, my previous mod.`
`06:54.31`	`seebs`	`Yeah, exactly.`
`06:54.37`	`kremonte`	`What's made of wool and very tasty? Scarlet Spellcaster. What's made of wool and very tasty? Scarlet Spellcaster. What's made of wool and very tasty? Scarlet Spellcaster.`
`06:54.52`	`seebs`	`Mine was worse; it was a summon macro with "/in 2 /say ... /in 4 /say ...", and if the summon got interrupted, it just kept going.`
`06:55.21`	`seebs`	`AnnoyRP can do things like "Tick 2 of Summon Felsteed", and it says it only if you actually REACH 2 seconds in; otherwise, it says nothing.`
`06:55.53`	`kremonte`	`i don't get /saying for things like that though`
`06:55.53`	`seebs`	`Also, percentage chance for an event to trigger chatter, and if you set a percentage over 10%, you get a warning message.`
`06:55.56`	`kremonte`	`even for RP`
`06:56.38`	`seebs`	`Well, as an example, the character I originally wrote it for (Timi the 'lock) would say things like "Writhe more, $target, it makes Timi's toes curl up."`
`06:56.56`	`seebs`	`I hate the ones that do totally OOC things. "I'm sheeping target, don't attack it."`
`06:57.29`	`kremonte`	`well those serve some pupose, aside from raid target icons :P`
`06:57.38`	`seebs`	`True. But they're OOC, so it bugs me.`
`06:57.49`	`seebs`	`<-- rp purist, except for the pop culture references`
`06:58.11`	`kremonte`	`well, i don't see how seeing /e concentrates intensely as he conjures a ball of fire from the netherworlds every three seconds isn't annoying :/`
`06:58.17`	`seebs`	`But I generally set them to pretty low chances. I pretty much always have chatter for summons, but that's differently.`
`06:58.27`	`bleetah`	`i'm on RP, i'm on the lookout for a mod that'll speak swedish chef/redneck/yokel etc.`
`06:58.32`	`seebs`	`Yeah, uhm. That's why I have the warning for any percentage over 10%.`
`06:58.53`	`kremonte`	`guess that's why i dun play on RP servers =p`
`06:58.59`	`seebs`	`I figure if I'm spamming instant casts, and you get a message about every 15 seconds, you probably won't kill me, especially if there's a dozen different messages per spell.`
`06:59.26`	`seebs`	`The mod is designed to actively encourage people to make the behavior less annoying and more fun.`
`06:59.50`	`Caeryn`	`~devtool`
`06:59.57`	`Caeryn`	`!devtools`
`07:00.49`	`Shadowed`	`~devtools`
`07:00.50`	`purl`	`from memory, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta`
`07:02.52`	`Caeryn`	`oh snap snap! i got the rings to work and have had them working for the past hour :P I just needed to reboot`
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`07:09.23`	`Cairenn`	`night guys`
`07:09.31`	`Thunder_Child`	`night Cairenn`
`07:12.44`	`seebs`	`Oh, dammit.`
`07:13.08`	`seebs`	`I just thought of something elegant and clever. This elegant and clever thing means that, now, I have no reason for an incredibly obnoxious design decision I made early on.`
`07:13.29`	`seebs`	`Which means I now have to set up an importer so that Saved Variables from earlier versions can be converted into the new format.`
`07:13.58`	`Caeryn`	`heh`
`07:14.44`	`seebs`	`I just realized that table sorting is enough easier than I thought it was that it's not a problem for me to just do it constantly, and that means I don't need to store items in [x] = { name, value } form.`
`07:15.09`	`seebs`	`Well, hey. I have had AnnoyRP_Options in SavedVariables since 0.01, I might as well start using it.`
`07:15.31`	`seebs`	`The cool thing is, I think this is going to be my first update that SHRINKS the mod substantially.`
`07:16.04`	`Caeryn`	`which mod?`
`07:16.09`	`seebs`	`AnnoyRP.`
`07:16.29`	`seebs`	`I have a big list of { name, {table} } pairs that are currently being stored as the values corresponding to numeric keys in a table for NO GOOD REASON.`
`07:17.24`	`seebs`	`Actually, lemme check my Lua understanding. If I do table.sort(...), can I then assume that consecutive iterations on table.pairs will produce the same ordering every time, at least until I add or remove an index?`
`07:21.16`	`seebs`	`Hmm. I think I lose... Unless I store an ordered array of the keys I care about. Which I can totally do.`
`07:21.28`	`Kaso`	`if its a numerical indexed table yes itll always been pairs() over in order, however sting indexed lists are pairs over randomly iirc`
`07:21.47`	`seebs`	`Yeah. That's the problem; I want it to be string-indexed, because I do a huge number of string lookups.`
`07:21.54`	`seebs`	`But I need a predictable ordering.`
`07:22.25`	`seebs`	`Actually, though... My current setup is very well-suited to doing this. Hmm! I think I have a plan.`
`07:22.39`	`seebs`	`The same code that handles storing a filtered subset of the array can be used to do it in-order.`
`07:28.28`	`Kaso`	`damn i hate patterns`
`07:28.43`	`Kaso`	`Anyone around who knows if i can somehow match:`
`07:29.30`	`Kaso`	`<anything here> Word, but not ACertain Word`
`07:29.38`	`Caeryn`	`!telo`
`07:29.40`	`Caeryn`	`~telo`
`07:30.01`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hooooooly crap`
`07:30.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`the bc intro is extremely awesome`
`07:30.25`	`Caeryn`	`is it jizzmazing?`
`07:30.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`beyond that`
`07:30.39`	`Caeryn`	`orgasmazing?`
`07:30.41`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i actually yelled "HOLY SHIT" outloud at one point`
`07:30.49`	`Caeryn`	`ah, shitazing`
`07:30.59`	`Kaso`	`ive just started watching`
`07:31.14`	`Kaso`	`could he have recorded it any worse?`
`07:31.25`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i know wth`
`07:31.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`decent sound though`
`07:31.41`	`bleetah`	`yar, coulda used super8 film :P`
`07:32.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`watching illidan's wings flair out and seeing all the demonic energy or whatever on them was`
`07:32.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`just wow`
`07:34.03`	`Kaso`	`whats going on in the scene just after the dragon is killed`
`07:34.51`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`naga look up an an orc is like Y HELO THAR`
`07:35.05`	`Kaso`	`oh`
`07:35.06`	`Kaso`	`its a naga`
`07:35.11`	`Kaso`	`thought it was a dragon`
`07:38.01`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, link?`
`07:38.18`	`Kaso`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WxrEmZlvE`
`07:38.37`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Anyone else having problems uploading to Curse?`
`07:39.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hearing the live version of ILLIDAN CONJURES THE NAGA song was O_O`
`07:40.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`oh wow`
`07:40.31`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`when the orc owns the naga, blood splatters on the camera`
`07:42.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`so what's your SA name Kaso?`
`07:42.26`	`Kaso`	`Kaso!`
`07:42.34`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`imagine that`
`07:42.42`	`Kaso`	`i know i know`
`07:42.43`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`Mr_Rabies here :p`
`07:43.12`	`Inside`	`D:`
`07:43.14`	`Inside`	`Fook me.`
`07:44.04`	`seebs`	`Well, that's discouraging. I can't get ADDON_LOADED events for love nor rubles. I'm registered for them, so far as I can tell, and other events work fine, but I never see a single ADDON_LOADED event.`
`07:44.55`	`seebs`	`Since they're supposed to fire after my OnLoad is called, I assumed that putting the register event in OnLoad would ensure that I'd get the event sometime AFTER OnLoad was done.`
`07:46.10`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`Sorry, don't use that one.. I always used PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD`
`07:48.04`	`seebs`	`Won't work, I'm spamming /reloadui.`
`07:48.18`	`seebs`	`Turns out I really did just need to do the register MUCH earlier in my OnLoad.`
`07:48.53`	`Kaso`	`when did you register`
`07:48.54`	`seebs`	`Oh, !@#$. I still don't get one for my own mod, it appears.`
`07:49.02`	`seebs`	`Very first line of my OnLoad function.`
`07:49.20`	`seebs`	`I still don't see the event for my own mod, but of course, that's the one mod I need to know about the SavedVariables for.`
`07:49.55`	`seebs`	`Unless that's the entire point, and ADDON_LOADED only fires for other addons.`
`07:50.02`	`seebs`	`In which case, the event advice on WoWWiki is wrong.`
`07:51.04`	`Kaso`	`the way i know it to workADDON_LOADED should fire after OnLoad, and after VARIABLES_LOADED, im not really sure`
`07:51.22`	`seebs`	`Hmm. All the docs IMPLY that you should get an ADDON_LOADED event for your own mod if you register it in your OnLoad, but I don't.`
`07:51.24`	`seebs`	`Bleh.`
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`07:56.22`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hahaha`
`07:56.33`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`some level ~40s were dueling in gadgetzan`
`07:56.44`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i waited for one to almost kill the other then chain lightining'd both`
`07:57.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`almost killed the winner of the last one when he gouged me, a guard ran up and killed him while i was gouged, then ran off :][`
`07:57.08`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`er :]`
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`08:11.08`	`seebs`	`Turns out I'm getting the message fine, it's just that all my debugging prints are being trashed mysteriously.`
`08:21.40`	`Kaso`	`trashed`
`08:21.45`	`Kaso`	`how odd.`
`08:22.30`	`Kaso`	`do you do anything unusualy with them, or just print em out to chatframe when they happen`
`08:25.04`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`can you /cancelaura without hardware input anymore?`
`08:25.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`like can you autocancel cheetah when dazed anymore?`
`08:25.49`	`Kaso`	`hmm`
`08:30.03`	`Kaso`	`you can`
`08:31.37`	`Corr[home]`	`Mr_Rabies: pvp realm?`
`08:31.59`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`my hunter is yeah`
`08:32.04`	`Caeryn`	`soo anyone from cursed here?`
`08:32.17`	`Corr[home]`	`does your hunter have chain lightning? o.o`
`08:32.33`	`Caeryn`	`Kaso: you can?`
`08:32.37`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`no but my shaman does`
`08:32.41`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`on the same server`
`08:32.52`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`he's level 46 cause i rarely ever play him`
`08:32.59`	`Corr[home]`	`i see`
`08:33.11`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i had to take that opportunity`
`08:33.18`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`no one in their right mind wouldn't on a pvp server`
`08:33.58`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`oh man`
`08:34.06`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`this freerefills thing is the best thing ever`
`08:34.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`never have to worry about buying ammo or reagents on chars again`
`08:34.22`	`Kaso`	`Caeryn i just set a Chronos event to call CancelPlayerBuff and it worked`
`08:35.08`	`Kaso`	`How do you escape % in string.format`
`08:35.36`	`Kaso`	`im trying to do 20%, but string.format("%d%%",20) doesnt work, it only prints 20`
`08:36.04`	`Caeryn`	`\% i thin`
`08:36.27`	`Kaso`	`stdin:1: invalid option '% ' to 'format'`
`08:36.37`	`Shadowed`	`Try one more %?`
`08:36.44`	`Caeryn`	`put in lots`
`08:37.08`	`Kaso`	`nope doesnt like that either`
`08:37.09`	`Shadowed`	`i've been able to do %.2f%% to show 100.00% without a problem`
`08:37.11`	`Shadowed`	`odd`
`08:37.27`	`Kaso`	`oh wait`
`08:37.31`	`Kaso`	`wtf`
`08:37.33`	`Nargiddley`	`/print string.format("%d%%",20) prints 20% for me`
`08:37.33`	`Caeryn`	`wtf!`
`08:37.43`	`Shadowed`	`Kaso needs sleep? :p`
`08:37.58`	`Nargiddley`	`whats the full line you're doing ?`
`08:38.17`	`Kaso`	`string.gsub("Chance on hit: Increases your haste rating by 200 for 10 sec.","haste rating by (%d+)",string.format("haste by %d%%",20))`
`08:39.04`	`Kaso`	`whats wierd is lua gives`
`08:39.05`	`Kaso`	`Chance on hit: Increases your haste by 20`
`08:39.08`	`Kaso`	`but wow gives me`
`08:39.11`	`Kaso`	`Chance on hit: Increases your haste by 20\000`
`08:39.28`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i cant get holy diver out of my head now`
`08:39.53`	`Kaso`	`i mean Chance on hit: Increases your haste by 20\000 for 10 sec.`
`08:40.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZTA4IVsZ7uM`
`08:40.24`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i watched that like 5 times today`
`08:40.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:43.09`	`Kaso`	`ahha!`
`08:43.41`	`Shadowed`	`so what was the problem`
`08:43.53`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hrm this addon isnt loading or something`
`08:44.05`	`Shadowed`	`/dump GetAddOnInfo("<Foldername>")`
`08:44.10`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`no errors, but it just seems to not be loading`
`08:44.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i can't use /ke or /kenergy to config it and i don't see it anywher`
`08:44.59`	`Kaso`	`needed more percentages Shadowed! cos i was passing the string.format result into string.gsub i needed 20%% rather than 20% so, the format pattern had to be "%d%%%%"`
`08:45.11`	`Shadowed`	`good times`
`08:45.53`	`Kaso`	`Perhaps you can help me with my other regex problem`
`08:45.59`	`Kaso`	`i want to match any string containing "hit rating by (%d+)" without matching "spell hit rating by (%d+)" how'd i do that?`
`08:46.17`	`ckknight`	`start with ^`
`08:46.26`	`ckknight`	`"^hit rating by (%d+)$"`
`08:46.27`	`Shadowed`	`That wouldn't work since he's trying to make Chance on hit:`
`08:46.40`	`Shadowed`	`er, the entire string has the chance on hit: stuff to start`
`08:47.09`	`Kaso`	`yah`
`08:47.24`	`Kaso`	`so i want <anything> hit raiting as long as anything isnt spell!`
`08:47.32`	`Shadowed`	`two string matches!`
`08:48.11`	`Kaso`	`so if string.find(val,"hit rating by (%d+)") and not string.find(val,"spelll hit") then...`
`08:48.17`	`Caeryn`	`that's not elegant`
`08:48.30`	`Shadowed`	`i was joking anyway!`
`08:48.51`	`Kaso`	`Its not elegant caeryn true, but is there a better way you know of?`
`08:48.56`	`Shadowed`	`Does hit rating by only apply to the chance on hit stuff? You could always just do your haste rating`
`08:49.17`	`Shadowed`	`"your haste rating by (%d+)" that is vs "haste rating by (%d+)"`
`08:49.31`	`Kaso`	`hmm, im confused`
`08:49.53`	`Shadowed`	`er bah so am I`
`08:50.24`	`Kaso`	`Im trying to make the capture quite wide so itll work through the multitude of ways blizzard have of writing the same bonus on the tooltip`
`08:51.24`	`Shadowed`	`I'm pretty sure matching "hit rating by (%d+)" will reduce it to only Equip/Chance on Hit/Use actions right?`
`08:52.12`	`Kaso`	`The point of this section of code is to catch "the ones ive missed" eg those that arent a standard Equip: etc`
`08:52.14`	`Kaso`	`like`
`08:52.14`	`Kaso`	`Chance on hit: Increases your haste rating by 200 for 10 sec.`
`08:52.57`	`Caeryn`	`apparantly not in lua`
`08:52.59`	`Caeryn`	`in perl yes`
`08:53.05`	`Caeryn`	`but lua is not POSIX compliant`
`08:53.09`	`Caeryn`	`i just looked it up :P`
`08:53.19`	`Shadowed`	`Right, is there a reason you can't match "your haste rating by (%d+)" thought? Since I can't think of any case that it'll use "haste rating by (%d+)" without having either "spell" or "your" before it`
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`08:53.40`	`Caeryn`	`i believe in perl it would have been m/(?!spell) hit rating increased by (\d+)/`
`08:53.41`	`VoidRaider\|afk`	`"{{"`
`08:53.49`	`Kaso`	`hm`
`08:54.03`	`Kaso`	`might have a point`
`08:54.50`	`Shadowed`	`I'm sure there is or will be some odd item that has hit/haste/crit rating on the item itself or as a socket...but that wouldn't use the wording "haste rating by (%d+)" anyway`
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`08:55.23`	`Caeryn`	`actually i think it would have had to been m/(?<!spell) hit rating increased by (\d+)/ in perl`
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`08:56.44`	`Kaso`	`ill try it with your and see how it goes`
`08:57.04`	`Neuro_Medivh`	`just randomly throwing this out: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/pastry`
`08:57.08`	`Shadowed`	`I can't think of any site that lets you search the actual tooltip text instead of just stats :(`
`08:57.58`	`Kaso`	`actually that wont work`
`08:58.01`	`Caeryn`	`Kaso: i don't think it'll work, LUA is not POSIX compliant`
`08:58.07`	`Shadowed`	`whys that?`
`08:58.21`	`Caeryn`	`because POSIX compliant regexp engines are like 4000 lines of code`
`08:58.26`	`Kaso`	`we got mixed up with haste, when we should have been thinking about hit,`
`08:58.29`	`Caeryn`	`LUA is like 500 lines of code, and lightweight`
`08:58.37`	`Shadowed`	`Same thing should apply to hit`
`08:58.45`	`Shadowed`	`http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=hit+rating+site%3Athottbot.com%2Fbeta`
`08:59.09`	`Kaso`	`Increase spell hit rating by" Increase your spell hit rating by increasing thier spell hit raiting by`
`08:59.52`	`Kaso`	`I guess the two searchs willl have to be the best solution i think`
`09:00.26`	`Caeryn`	`how many ways can you get "Increase your X rating by"`
`09:00.38`	`Shadowed`	`hrm you sure?`
`09:00.51`	`bleetah`	`Caeryn: the LUA engine all up is 500 lines, or their regexp engine?`
`09:01.05`	`Shadowed`	`Castigator has 1% hit which is listed as "your hit rating" and Neltharion's tear which has 2% spell hit has "your spell hit rating"`
`09:01.10`	`bleetah`	`(I've never been driven enough to look)`
`09:01.29`	`Kaso`	`if theres one thing ive learn from coding this addon is that blizzard loves to state the same bonus in various ways`
`09:01.43`	`Caeryn`	`bleetah: the regexp!`
`09:01.58`	`Caeryn`	`also its hearsay since i've not seen the code`
`09:02.20`	`Shadowed`	`They like to do that for alterac valley messages too!`
`09:02.25`	`bleetah`	`Caeryn: ah, thought as much. was thinking even LUA being lightweight, 500 lines for the entire engine seemed a little anorexic`
`09:02.34`	`Kaso`	`Shadowed perhaps ill take the easy route and add in hacks for any items that dont conform`
`09:02.55`	`Shadowed`	`if you really wanted, you could see how RatingBuster did it`
`09:05.10`	`Shadowed`	`actually, rating buster doesn't even try to match the type in one call, it justs finds out if it's one they want to process then checks it in a second one`
`09:07.34`	`Kaso`	`his way is alot less strict because of the way he just adds the percentage onto the end of the raiting rather than replacing it like i am`
`09:08.10`	`seebs`	`I have been told that the whole Lua language is smaller than a complete POSIX regexp implementation.`
`09:08.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hey hey hey hey hey hey kaso`
`09:08.13`	`Shadowed`	`well personally I find appending the rating to be cleaner then replacing it`
`09:08.13`	`seebs`	`It wouldn't surprise me.`
`09:08.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`if you ever get bored and feel like writing me an addon`
`09:08.31`	`Caeryn`	`i definitely would prefer it to be appended`
`09:08.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`write one that plays the transformers noise when the shapeshift event fires`
`09:08.38`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`kthx`
`09:08.59`	`Kaso`	`haha`
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`09:09.40`	`Kaso`	`Caeryn hm?`
`09:11.32`	`Caeryn`	`dude good times, i had 0 skill in mace, went to melee a mob, and now its like 80`
`09:11.39`	`Caeryn`	`if only all skill gain was this fast`
`09:12.43`	`Caeryn`	`ok died the second time around :( v v sd`
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`09:13.48`	`seebs`	`You know, it really says something that I've written articles on data formats, and I didn't think to put in a file version tag when I created mine.`
`09:14.08`	`seebs`	`Ah, well. AnnoyRP 0.07 adds a version tag, which it needs because I changed the file structure some. :)`
`09:15.47`	`Kaso`	`that doesnt sound a very plesent addon`
`09:16.10`	`seebs`	`Hee.`
`09:16.19`	`seebs`	`Well, I wanted the name to serve as a constant reminder to people.`
`09:16.46`	`seebs`	`It is SOOO easy to overuse RP chatter.`
`09:17.12`	`Kaso`	`ha`
`09:18.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`holy`
`09:18.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`1775 crit with ferocious bite on a warrior`
`09:19.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`<Caeryn> dude good times, i had 0 skill in mace, went to melee a mob, and now its like 80`
`09:19.09`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`skill gain on a hunter is the easiest thing ever`
`09:19.12`	`seebs`	`But I'm happy, I seem to have successfully updated my data file format, and I think I caught all the off-by-one errors introduced by putting new items at the beginning of a list (before item #1) instead of at the end.`
`09:19.35`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`either spam wingclip rank 1 with level 1 items or spam scorpid sting rank 1 with level 1 bow and arrows`
`09:19.53`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`er serpent`
`09:20.21`	`Kaso`	`roll a caster, then you dont have to gain skill`
`09:20.31`	`Shadowed`	`sure you do`
`09:20.42`	`Shadowed`	`What else would you do during your 500th MC run?`
`09:20.51`	`Kaso`	`haha`
`09:20.52`	`Caeryn`	`my mage has 300 in all weapon skill`
`09:21.30`	`Kaso`	`actually what i find amusing as that you used to have Frost, Fire Shadow etc skills, and to this day, in SFK theres still "Forsken Skill" debuffs for those.`
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`09:22.08`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`my druid's got either 300 or 299 in everything`
`09:22.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`including unarmed :p`
`09:22.30`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`back before 1.8 it was more dps to keep moonfire up and just melee in caster form than do kitty dps`
`09:22.48`	`Caeryn`	`well in SW occasionally some random schmuck will pull the unkillable mobs there`
`09:22.58`	`Caeryn`	`that's like party time for me and my friends`
`09:23.22`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`yeah when that happens i'll sic a char on autoattack and go get some food or something`
`09:23.48`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i love taunting them and dragging them around`
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`09:24.00`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`see a huge mass of players and guards following around the mob you just taunted`
`09:24.29`	`Kaso`	`i once tried to taunt it away on my level 20 warrior`
`09:24.35`	`Kaso`	`i tried like 40 times and didnt get one through`
`09:25.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`hehe`
`09:25.35`	`Inside`	`hmm`
`09:25.42`	`Inside`	`what happens if someone pulls one of the servants from the blasted lands in?`
`09:25.47`	`Inside`	`I mean, do they have to restart the server?`
`09:26.00`	`Caeryn`	`gm comes and deletes the mob`
`09:26.05`	`Caeryn`	`then yells at everyone`
`09:26.07`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`now kazzak`
`09:26.10`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`kazzak is fun`
`09:26.12`	`Caeryn`	`then goes and cries at his horrible job`
`09:26.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`back when you could kite him into stormwind`
`09:26.30`	`Inside`	`XD`
`09:26.31`	`Inside`	`hehe`
`09:26.31`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`the city was his until a GM intervened`
`09:26.35`	`Inside`	`xXD`
`09:26.59`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`every time he killed a lowbie, guard, etc = 48000 health to him`
`09:27.04`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`plus when he went uber`
`09:27.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`back in the day i think a kazzak was eating stormwind for ....3 days?`
`09:27.24`	`Shadowed`	`Somebody once pulled 3 servents to bolvar in SW and they got him to 70% before GM's despawned them`
`09:27.27`	`Shadowed`	`good times`
`09:27.59`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`holy crap`
`09:27.59`	`Inside`	`0_o wow`
`09:28.03`	`Shadowed`	`Maybe it was around 80% not sure exactly what it was, but they took about 4-5 hours before they were despawned`
`09:28.06`	`Inside`	`what to add to my game -_- so confused~`
`09:28.09`	`Shadowed`	`anyway, sleep time`
`09:28.11`	`Kaso`	`i dont understand how people kite him, i mean surely 1) hes gonna go uber before your out of blasted lands and 2) surely his shadowbolt volly is longer range than Arcane Shot or whatever`
`09:28.14`	`Caeryn`	`ok this quest is not made properly`
`09:28.22`	`Kaso`	`(kite kazzak i mean)`
`09:28.23`	`Inside`	`Kaso: Tandem pulling.`
`09:28.38`	`Kaso`	`what? like dying over and over?`
`09:28.46`	`Inside`	`well, probably two or three mage with flash step.`
`09:28.54`	`Caeryn`	`flash step?`
`09:28.57`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`<Kaso> i dont understand how people kite him, i mean surely 1) hes gonna go uber before your out of blasted lands and 2) surely his shadowbolt volly is longer range than Arcane Shot or whatever`
`09:29.03`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`chain of bodies`
`09:29.10`	`Inside`	`grab attention, jump just out of range, another mage walks in, grabs attention and then jumps into another direction.`
`09:29.10`	`Kaso`	`hm`
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`09:29.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`takes a loooot of people`
`09:29.16`	`Inside`	`sort of a zig zag`
`09:29.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`gotta keep him killing people in a line to stormwind`
`09:29.22`	`Kaso`	`lot of effort :>`
`09:30.02`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`his volley at non uber is like 200 yards`
`09:33.04`	`Kaso`	`can anyone think of weapons that have procs or uses that have raitings in then :>`
`09:33.24`	`Caeryn`	`any weapon that increases your chance to hit`
`09:33.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=lc6qQ1W-_yY`
`09:39.01`	`bleetah`	`heh, pretty amusing Mr_Rabies`
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`09:42.45`	`bleetah`	`i've got to come up with something neat like that to gift to my lame realm on xmas`
`09:43.12`	`Caeryn`	`downtime so everyone can spend XMas with family?`
`09:43.58`	`bleetah`	`i got into a forum argument, 'coz the H downed Bolvar and werr whoopinh it up, 'realm first' and blah.. and i was 'plz something original'`
`09:44.20`	`bleetah`	`sure, relatively new realm, low H pop, but still, pretty sad`
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`09:46.22`	`Ithrill`	`hey, i have a question, where can I find list of offical WoW UI functions?`
`09:46.43`	`Shadowed`	`wowwiki.com is the largest one you'll find`
`09:47.15`	`Shadowed`	`But theres no offical list that Blizzard maintains if thats what you're asking`
`09:47.27`	`Ithrill`	`i saw that, but there is not even a word about how GetPVPLifetimeStats() behave after last patch`
`09:47.59`	`Shadowed`	`not everything is documented, sometimes you may need to search through FrameXML to see how it's used`
`09:48.09`	`Ithrill`	`um`
`09:48.33`	`Ithrill`	`how do I do it?:>`
`09:49.55`	`Caeryn`	`download the kit from blizzard and install it`
`09:50.00`	`Caeryn`	`you'll see some additional folders`
`09:51.11`	`Caeryn`	`then since you're thinking about pvp stuff you might have to check the honor frame`
`09:51.17`	`Shadowed`	`PVPFrame.lua`
`09:51.22`	`Caeryn`	`or that!`
`09:51.35`	`Shadowed`	`HonorFrame was replaced by PVPFrame in 2.0.1, but they didn't delete the file for some reason`
`09:51.47`	`Caeryn`	`i'm just guessing`
`09:51.54`	`Shadowed`	`honorableKill, contribution = GetPVPLifetimeStats() i'm not sure what contribution is suppose to be since it doesn't appear to be used`
`09:52.01`	`Shadowed`	`well, used by PVPFrame`
`09:52.19`	`TonyD`	`damn`
`09:52.21`	`Caeryn`	`print out the values and guess i guess`
`09:52.33`	`Shadowed`	`I did Caeryn still not sure!`
`09:52.34`	`grzesieq`	`Does anyone know a decent working AH mod?`
`09:52.36`	`TonyD`	`can't believe i actually typed that word righs`
`09:52.37`	`Shadowed`	`Auctioneer`
`09:52.48`	`Kaso`	`as far as i can see its honorkills,dishonorkills = GetPVPLifetimeStats() but thats just a guess`
`09:52.48`	`TonyD`	`auctioneer alpha works well`
`09:52.55`	`Ithrill`	`well, i am getting 'hk' - honor kills, and 9 as contribution`
`09:52.58`	`TonyD`	`dk's are gone`
`09:53.00`	`grzesieq`	`spams me with errors :/`
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`09:53.09`	`TonyD`	`klll questgivers plz`
`09:53.12`	`Shadowed`	`It couldn't be DHK'`
`09:53.22`	`Kaso`	`I know theyre gone, but it could be that its still returning them even though theyre unused`
`09:53.22`	`Shadowed`	`It couldn't be DHK's because I had 0 before 2.0.1`
`09:53.27`	`Kaso`	`ah`
`09:53.37`	`Kaso`	`well that puts that theory down`
`09:53.55`	`Caeryn`	`contribution is probably honor guess or something?`
`09:53.59`	`Ithrill`	`Caeryn: where do I get that kit from? Can't find anything on wow-europe.com :)`
`09:54.07`	`Shadowed`	`Check the US forums`
`09:54.10`	`Caeryn`	`not sure let me find`
`09:54.17`	`Caeryn`	`~wow interface kit`
`09:54.36`	`Shadowed`	`Hrm, according to honor frame it's highestRank, but that's not possible since I didn't get rank 14`
`09:54.42`	`Shadowed`	`OH`
`09:55.44`	`Shadowed`	`AHA it's hk, highestRank = GetPVPLifetimeStats(); the highestRank value has be "translated" using GetPVPRankInfo() to turn it into useful data`
`09:55.54`	`Caeryn`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1`
`09:56.10`	`Thunder_Child`	`Ithrill: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p`
`09:56.51`	`Caeryn`	`god this is the first time i've played in ashenvale/darkshore`
`09:56.54`	`Caeryn`	`and i hate it`
`09:57.07`	`Caeryn`	`i'm surprised not more elves turn out to be psychotic killers`
`09:57.22`	`Shadowed`	`I didn't do much in ashenvale actually, I like darkshore thought`
`09:57.42`	`Caeryn`	`the last time i did this i ported to westfall and my elf has higher sw rep than darn`
`09:57.44`	`Shadowed`	`the 5 alliance characters i've done have all everything in darkshore when westfall ran out of quests`
`09:57.54`	`Caeryn`	`but i figured i'd do it "right" for fun`
`09:57.56`	`Thunder_Child`	`same here Caeryn`
`09:58.06`	`Caeryn`	`not fun not fun!`
`09:58.08`	`Shadowed`	`ashenvale is pretty bad thought, the only good quest it had was killing the naga's`
`09:58.09`	`Thunder_Child`	`better in westfall`
`09:58.19`	`Caeryn`	`smaller for one`
`09:58.36`	`Caeryn`	`less quests that require you to run north then south then north again`
`09:58.44`	`Shadowed`	`starting area 1 -> 10, westfall 10 -> 12, darkshore 12 -> 15, westfall 15 -> 17, darkshore 17 -> 18, was what i ended up doing`
`09:58.47`	`Ithrill`	`found what i was looking for, thanks :)`
`09:58.48`	`Thunder_Child`	`the only good quest in darkshore is the one geting out of there`
`09:58.52`	`Shadowed`	`or something like that`
`09:59.13`	`Elkano`	`Kaso: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/2016180/live/118 and scroll to the bottom`
`09:59.15`	`Caeryn`	`ok i failed this escort quest like 3 times`
`09:59.34`	`Caeryn`	`its just bloody impossible, i can't get to all the casters fast enough before they bolt my escort to death`
`09:59.58`	`Shadowed`	`Elkano: They list it as contribution, which is incorrect`
`10:00.04`	`Elkano`	`So maybe GetPVPLifetimeStats()'s 2nd return value is the total honor you gained in the new system`
`10:00.08`	`Wobin`	`That's the stupid sleepy druid one isn't it?`
`10:00.12`	`Shadowed`	`read up Elkano :p`
`10:00.14`	`Wobin`	`I hated that quest`
`10:00.17`	`Shadowed`	`[55:35] <Shadowed> AHA it's hk, highestRank = GetPVPLifetimeStats(); the highestRank value has be "translated" using GetPVPRankInfo() to turn it into useful data`
`10:00.44`	`Elkano`	`ah, k`
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`10:20.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8LtObIjZYg&eurl=`
`10:20.15`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i know it's played out but that's some win, especially for spike`
`10:47.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i wish there was some kind of thing i could throw items into to compare them`
`10:47.39`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm trying to figure out what i should buy first from the epic pvp set`
`10:47.59`	`Kaso`	`There sorta is, with healpoints and tankpoints`
`10:49.23`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well those of you good with math, help me figure out my highest DPS boost with this: http://tangedyn.awardspace.com/cat-dps-items.htm`
`10:49.27`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`aaand my ctprofile`
`10:49.44`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://ctprofiles.net/223893`
`10:50.23`	`Thunder_Child`	`well 2 > 1 so by following that logic.....`
`10:53.10`	`MatthewS`	`build a spreadsheet?`
`10:53.33`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'm slowly working on it using a calculator :P`
`10:54.29`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Don't waste your points on things which will be useless in a month`
`10:54.30`	`[Cu]Werik`	`?`
`10:55.17`	`Kaso`	`the points will be equally as usless in a month`
`10:55.47`	`[Cu]Werik`	`you will be able to buy gems on it`
`10:55.58`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`eh`
`10:56.00`	`Kaso`	`true i guess`
`10:56.21`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`might as well spend the points now`
`10:56.48`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i doubt i'll find an upgrade to all 6 pieces within a month`
`10:57.05`	`[Cu]Werik`	`You get better quest rewards than rank14 stull around lvl 63`
`10:57.16`	`[Cu]Werik`	`s/stull/stuff`
`10:57.26`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`prob depends on class`
`10:57.44`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Hopefully not, because that would be dull:P`
`10:57.57`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`druid itemization's pretty wonky`
`10:57.58`	`Kaso`	`i think it does, i know my HWL dagger im working on (caster) when enchanted will last me to 70 pretty much`
`10:58.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`all i know is the hwl items are worthless for me :[`
`10:58.16`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i've got a better mace and it's blue`
`10:58.51`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well in terms of DPS gain it goes, gloves, helm, legs, boots, chest, shoulders`
`10:59.12`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`funny how little gain i get from going from green level 55 boots to level 60 epics`
`10:59.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`and level 52 blue shoulders to epic 60 weapons`
`10:59.53`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`0.9 DPS points from dark warder->pvp shoulders`
`11:00.03`	`Thunder_Child`	`dont forget armor + stats`
`11:00.20`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well yeah armor is a decent boost`
`11:00.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`but i have some level 51 blue shoulders with almost as much armor`
`11:00.53`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i'll get them in order of DPS gain first and foremost`
`11:01.09`	`Thunder_Child`	`the point is, rven if it is a small boost in dmg, its a large boost overall`
`11:01.14`	`Thunder_Child`	`even*`
`11:01.25`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`eh not necessarily`
`11:01.41`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`not when i can swap to epic healer gear in a heartbeat`
`11:02.13`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`or 13000 armor`
`11:02.19`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`gear`
`11:02.47`	`Thunder_Child`	`you talking about multiple things, i am not`
`11:03.43`	`Thunder_Child`	`s/you/your/`
`11:05.48`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`i've always been a bigger fan of being good dps, good healer, or a good tank when i start a fight, instead of meh in all 3`
`11:06.32`	`Thunder_Child`	`i am not talking meh in all 3, i am saying the best in dps -with-...lets call it extras`
`11:07.43`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`well not quite the best but better than i've got for sure :P`
`11:07.59`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`plus set bonus at 6 pieces`
`11:08.05`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`+40 AP`
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`11:14.17`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`they're all such minor boosts it makes me sad though`
`11:14.29`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`wish they'd have focused the stats instead of killing the budget`
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`11:20.55`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`http://www.ctprofiles.net/4775001 http://www.ctprofiles.net/4775003`
`11:20.57`	`Mr_Rabies2`	`direct comparison`
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`11:41.57`	`Industrial`	`http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_121006_124016812.jpg`
`11:42.03`	`Industrial`	`gon' hunt'n`
`11:53.10`	`Ithrill`	`is there some debug mode when writing addons? my doesnt want to load one var from the table, god knows why`
`11:55.13`	`Kaso`	`there isnt, but there are various tools you can use to help`
`11:55.22`	`Kaso`	`one var from the table, explain whatcha mean`
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`12:03.47`	`Ithrill`	`if (not TITAN_HONOR_CFG[TITAN_HONOR_PLAYER].estCP) then TITAN_HONOR_CFG[TITAN_HONOR_PLAYER].estCP = 0; end`
`12:03.50`	`Ithrill`	`and it never works :)`
`12:03.52`	`Ithrill`	`dunno why`
`12:04.48`	`Ithrill`	`but other vars in that table are loading fine`
`12:04.51`	`Wobble`	`you sure TITAN_HONOR_CFG[TITAN_HONOR_PLAYER] exists?`
`12:05.20`	`Ithrill`	`yes`
`12:05.42`	`Wobin`	`pastey the code, perhaps?`
`12:05.42`	`Ithrill`	`i am setting this var to my value and when I relog its always 0`
`12:06.08`	`Wobin`	`Are you saving it to a SavedVariable?`
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`12:06.28`	`Ithrill`	`yup`
`12:06.55`	`Wobin`	`pastey the code then`
`12:07.00`	`Ithrill`	`sec.`
`12:09.23`	`Ithrill`	`http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1031474980`
`12:09.43`	`Ithrill`	`yesterdayCP and yesterdayHK works fine, estCP doesnt work :)`
`12:10.21`	`Kaso`	`all those capitals give me a headache :<`
`12:12.56`	`Wobin`	`Ithrill: It will reset every single time though, won't it?`
`12:13.14`	`Wobin`	`since titan_honor_killslifetime isn't being saved`
`12:13.21`	`Wobin`	`just titan_honor_cfg`
`12:13.51`	`Ithrill`	`um?:)`
`12:13.54`	`Wobin`	`So since t_h_klt is new each time, it overwrites t_h_cfg`
`12:14.13`	`Wobin`	`if (not TITAN_HONOR_KILLSLIFETIME[TITAN_HONOR_PLAYER]) then`
`12:14.24`	`Wobin`	`That table will always be empty on login`
`12:14.31`	`Wobin`	`or nonexistant, really`
`12:14.39`	`Ithrill`	`but its being saved too`
`12:14.52`	`Wobin`	`oh`
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`12:14.58`	`Wobin`	`paste the whole thing?`
`12:15.03`	`Ithrill`	`whoole script?:)`
`12:15.06`	`Wobin`	`It's hard to figure out from bits and pieces`
`12:16.22`	`Ithrill`	`http://sh.waw.pl/TitanHonor/`
`12:16.46`	`Ithrill`	`here it is, but its without directory tree`
`12:18.31`	`Ithrill`	`i think i have an idea what may be wrong`
`12:19.08`	`Ithrill`	`nah, nvm`
`12:19.28`	`Wobin`	`got it?`
`12:19.43`	`Ithrill`	`nope, its not that`
`12:20.36`	`Ithrill`	`it could be becouse of TitanPanelHonorButton_ResetToday()`
`12:21.14`	`Ithrill`	`i mean, its called every time i login and its reseting the vars that are reseting, but then again, why?:)`
`12:22.42`	`Wobin`	`TITAN_HONOR_CFG = {};`
`12:22.58`	`Wobin`	`Aren't you setting the table to empty at the beginning?`
`12:24.10`	`Ithrill`	`you mean the very begining?`
`12:24.20`	`Ithrill`	`shouldnt it be overwritten with Load() ?`
`12:25.14`	`Wobin`	`I'm not sure =) It's been .... far too long since I've written a nonAce addon =)`
`12:26.06`	`Ithrill`	`nope, its not it :)`
`12:26.22`	`Ithrill`	`i tried to set a value in it, besides there is bunch of other vars inside that works nontheless`
`12:27.44`	`Ithrill`	`phone, brb`
`12:31.07`	`Wobin`	`hum`
`12:31.27`	`Wobin`	`All I can suggest is throwing in debug statements left right and centre to see where the misassignment is occurring`
`12:31.51`	`Wobin`	`You can use DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() to get some feedback`
`12:32.05`	`Kaso`	`DevTools_Dump() :>`
`12:32.21`	`Kaso`	`you can dump any data type into that`
`12:32.24`	`Wobin`	`oh aye`
`12:32.28`	`Wobin`	`<3 devtools`
`12:32.31`	`Wobin`	`~devtools`
`12:32.35`	`purl`	`well, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta`
`12:35.27`	`Industrial`	`Wobin: pm`
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`12:45.15`	`bleetah`	`new auctioneer alpha, 1167. we're getting closer folks :)`
`12:45.28`	`bleetah`	`norgs has been taking his Go Juice again`
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`13:17.46`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`good morning all !`
`13:17.48`	`Ithrill`	`Kaso: attempt to call global 'DevTools_Dump' (a nil value), how do I call it?:>`
`13:18.01`	`Kaso`	`Do you have DevTools?`
`13:18.10`	`Ithrill`	`hehe, guess i dont :)`
`13:18.16`	`Kaso`	`~devtools`
`13:18.18`	`purl`	`hmm... devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet?, or found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5415 for the beta`
`13:18.18`	`Ithrill`	`thought its some built-in feature`
`13:18.26`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`guys any news from flisher about CharsViewer update ?`
`13:18.41`	`Kaso`	`devtools is awesome, get it :>`
`13:19.11`	`Kaso`	`you can do stuff like /dump SomeTable and illt print it out all nice`
`13:23.16`	`Ithrill`	`yup, it prints the table, cool`
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`13:23.32`	`Ithrill`	`but i still have no clue why it sets itself to 0 :>`
`13:29.35`	`Corr[home]`	`unfortunately, the newest version has a very annoying feature of popping up this "events" window when the UI loads, with the top of the window behind fubar such that you can't easily close it and no apparent way of reopening it except reloading the UI`
`13:30.05`	`Kaso`	`:Show() :Hide() are your friends :>`
`13:35.05`	`bleetah`	`someone buy me a new keybaord and a new monitor, for I just had this question asked of me 'addons dont self-update like mozilla addons do?'`
`13:39.02`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`guys. what this means? attempt to call a table value > for index, money in TotalGoldArray do`
`13:39.17`	`Kaso`	`pairs()!`
`13:39.25`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`?`
`13:39.30`	`Kaso`	`eg, pairs(TotalGoldArray)`
`13:39.40`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`what pairs is ?`
`13:39.45`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`ah.`
`13:39.51`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`and where it want pairs now?`
`13:40.02`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`way to call an array changed ?`
`13:40.16`	`Kaso`	`for key,value in table do, should be for key,value in pairs(table) do`
`13:40.33`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`pairs is a function?`
`13:40.38`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`pairs( param ) ?`
`13:41.05`	`Kaso`	`yes`
`13:41.21`	`Kaso`	`basically you can no longer do "for <stuff> in <table>`
`13:41.30`	`Kaso`	`you have to wrap your table in pairs()`
`13:41.39`	`Hexarobi`	`pairs() converts table to a hash?`
`13:41.42`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`hmmm weird`
`13:41.51`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`how do i comment in lua?`
`13:41.55`	`jaxdahl`	`--`
`13:41.55`	`Hexarobi`	`--`
`13:41.59`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`k.`
`13:42.16`	`Kaso`	`pairs returns the next function for that table, allowing you to itterate over it`
`13:42.19`	`Hexarobi`	`anybody know how to get the sticky chatType in 2.0?`
`13:42.24`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`will console reloadui reload the lua file if I change and save it?`
`13:42.32`	`Hexarobi`	`yes yamm`
`13:42.58`	`Hexarobi`	`you only need to reboot wow if you add new files or change the toc file`
`13:43.15`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`hmm at least that =) reboot wow is pretty annoying`
`13:43.48`	`bleetah`	`lol - i've practically got it macrod on my g15 :/`
`13:44.56`	`bleetah`	`auctioneer pack 1170 alpha released, now with btmscan loving ;-)`
`13:45.03`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`yay addon fixed!!!`
`13:45.12`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`\o/ totalGold works!`
`13:45.19`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`thank u guys`
`13:45.26`	`Kaso`	`np`
`13:45.52`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`gladly the addon is small and easy to fix ^^`
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`13:49.08`	`YammYgirlcoding`	`is ui.worldofwar bugged in login part? I put login / pass and it won't log me`
`13:49.29`	`Dezzimal`	`any of you guys know how to use the default blizzard enemy castbar in combination with ag_unitframes? ag seems to disable the portrait castbar even if I tick the box in interface options.`
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`13:56.07`	`Hexarobi`	`is the default blizz ui code for v2.0 available somewhere?`
`13:56.22`	`Dezzimal`	`check the ui/mods forum`
`13:56.41`	`Dezzimal`	`there should be one huge sticky about all you need`
`13:57.07`	`Ithrill`	`so, I made my addon, how can I publish it?:>`
`13:58.13`	`Hexarobi`	`zip it up and upload it to wowinterface.com`
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`14:08.53`	`Hexarobi`	`so i used to be able to get the currently stickied type with DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.editBox.stickyType`
`14:09.12`	`Hexarobi`	`this doesnt work anymore, anybody got a suggestion on where to find it?`
`14:15.49`	`Hexarobi`	`i found it in the blizz ui code, and its still done the way it used to be. so i assume this ui code isnt the v2.0 code`
`14:18.05`	`Hexarobi`	`k i think i found the beta kit now`
`14:19.48`	`Hexarobi`	`grrrr, which requires the beta to be installed, which i cant install cuz the downloader always fails argh`
`14:19.54`	`Maldivia`	`Hexarobi: try DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.editBox:GetAttribute("stickyType")`
`14:19.59`	`Hexarobi`	`thanks`
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`14:35.48`	`Hexarobi`	`that worked, much appreciated`
`14:37.16`	`bleetah`	`auctioneer pack 1171 alpha released, now with slightly improved btmscan loving ;-)`
`14:37.34`	`Dezzimal`	`noice`
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`14:37.54`	`bleetah`	`still buggy, but a bit better than 1170 heh`
`14:38.07`	`bleetah`	`oh please, not more clueless users :-P`
`14:38.27`	`bleetah`	`ideally our alpha users can fix stuff by themselves, or at least bring us a good debug`
`14:38.36`	`bleetah`	`as it states on the website`
`14:39.00`	`Dezzimal`	`heh...if I spent a week fiddling I'd be able to fix stuff`
`14:39.52`	`Dezzimal`	`gatherer is just a must have though...makes herbalism so much easier since I can't remember all 80+ dreamfoil nodes in azshara`
`14:40.11`	`bleetah`	`that's how i started.. find a mod that's bugged (in this case, it was enchantrix not working in IF, quite a few releases ago), and .. just try to learn ;)`
`14:40.25`	`Dezzimal`	`well`
`14:40.48`	`Dezzimal`	`if I can page through the documentation on the 2.0 changes and locate the enemy castbar stuff`
`14:41.02`	`Dezzimal`	`I might try to get an ace addon going for it, or patch it into ag`
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`14:41.28`	`bleetah`	`ah! saeris!`
`14:41.35`	`Dezzimal`	`but...that takes away from valuable gameplay time and I'm sure someone else will do it. Its the american way.`
`14:41.46`	`bleetah`	`just the person I was wondering about... we (auctioneer) seem to have uncovered a bug in your LL`
`14:41.55`	`Saeris`	`Really?`
`14:41.58`	`bleetah`	`(assuming you are THAT Saeris)`
`14:42.01`	`Saeris`	`I am.`
`14:42.17`	`bleetah`	`yeah, you're not checking a nil return on the tooltip.. lemme see if I can grab the pasty I made`
`14:42.30`	`bleetah`	`i got the user who found it to post a forum or something message to you`
`14:42.49`	`bleetah`	`but seeing you're here, i'll take the opportunity to see if my wild stab in the dark fix is correct ;)`
`14:43.24`	`bleetah`	`Saeris: LootLink_Tooltips.lua, around line 134`
`14:43.45`	`bleetah`	`Saeris: local lastLine = getglobal(tooltip:GetName().."TextLeft"..tooltip:NumLines())`
`14:44.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`<Dezzimal> any of you guys know how to use the default blizzard enemy castbar in combination with ag_unitframes? ag seems to disable the portrait castbar even if I tick the box in interface options. <-- you could use mEnemyCastbar, it hooks into ag_UF`
`14:44.19`	`bleetah`	`then you hop straight into an if (lastline.....) without checking that lastline is not nil, so before the if I threw in "if (not lastline) then return; end"`
`14:44.24`	`Saeris`	`Oh that. Yep, I've been trying to fix that. There's no reason that lastLine should be nil there.`
`14:44.45`	`bleetah`	`Saeris: we were getting weird bugs on opening and closing tooltips, putting that line in there seems to have fixed it`
`14:45.21`	`bleetah`	`Saeris: that is what I thought, but I guessed either our code is wrong, or yours, or something else.. the nasty hack cured it tho`
`14:46.04`	`Saeris`	`I'll add that fix myself, but it's honestly more of an API bug than anything. tooltip:NumLines() should not be returning an index for a fontstring which doesn't exist, but it does now that fontstrings are created by GameTooltip objects dynamically as needed. It's weird.`
`14:46.32`	`bleetah`	`Saeris: yeah, well that was the other possibility that was high on my list (API bug) ;-)`
`14:46.38`	`Saeris`	`It seems as though the fontstrings are created from :Show() instead of :AddLine().`
`14:46.56`	`bleetah`	`'coz your checking for nils elsewhere, so I kind of figured mild oversight or API bug`
`14:47.24`	`Saeris`	`Yep, thanks for bringing it up though, I almost forgot about fixing that in the midst of all of my other addons.`
`14:47.28`	`bleetah`	`anyways, 1:45 AM here, I'm off to bed.. glad to have caught up with you Saeris :)`
`14:47.33`	`Saeris`	`G'night.`
`14:47.36`	`bleetah`	`Saeris: yar, know that feeling :-s`
`14:47.37`	`bleetah`	`gnight`
`14:49.30`	`Dezzimal`	`Gnarfoz: does it use the information blizzard now relays to your game?`
`14:49.56`	`Dezzimal`	`let me copy/paste what norgana said about it in the other chan`
`14:50.07`	`Gnarfoz`	`Dezzimal: huh, what? :)`
`14:50.13`	`Dezzimal`	`blizzard supply the events and information (such as spell name etc) for the current target (even when they are halfway through casting`
`14:50.21`	`Dezzimal`	`when you tab to target them`
`14:50.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`I don't see why it wouldn't`
`14:50.50`	`Gnarfoz`	`it was only created for the TBC beta, so those events were already available then`
`14:50.52`	`Dezzimal`	`well former enemy castbar addons just start a timer when they see someone start casting a spell`
`14:51.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's not a traditional 'enemy castbar addon' i'd think`
`14:51.15`	`Gnarfoz`	`it's just a pretty version of the blizzard one`
`14:51.27`	`Gnarfoz`	`check out the code, at least that's what I think ^^`
`14:51.42`	`Gnarfoz`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5488.html`
`14:52.03`	`Dezzimal`	`heh I don't know addon code at all`
`14:52.18`	`Dezzimal`	`I'll look into it though`
`14:52.32`	`Hexarobi`	`how do you get a table's length?`
`14:52.42`	`Saeris`	`#table`
`14:53.22`	`Saeris`	`Alternatively, table.maxn(table) or "local c = 0; for key in pairs(table) do c = c + 1; end"`
`14:53.34`	`Hexarobi`	`hehe #table worked great thx ;)`
`14:54.08`	`Saeris`	`Just be aware that it doesn't count negative or non-integer indexes. Gotta use the third method for those.`
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`14:55.52`	`Saeris`	`Does anyone know if its possible anymore to create a frame that shows itself when a key is pressed down, and hides itself when the key is released? Would it involve SecureAnchorUpDownTemplate?`
`14:56.36`	`Saeris`	`In combat, I mean.`
`14:56.51`	`Saeris`	`...With the frame containing action buttons.`
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`15:08.00`	`cladhaire`	`it would invovlve SAUDT`
`15:09.45`	`maia`	`morning clad.`
`15:09.56`	`cladhaire`	`morning maia`
`15:10.59`	`maia`	`cladhaire: may I bug you with a Clique question? I doubt there's any way to use clique for click-casting onto units in the 3d environment (aka not clicking a frame but a unit itself), right?`
`15:11.47`	`cladhaire`	`correct, you need to use bindings for that`
`15:12.05`	`cladhaire`	`Mainly because I dont know what those buttons are named, to register them`
`15:12.20`	`cladhaire`	`otherwise we could probably make it work`
`15:12.39`	`cladhaire`	`if you're talking the bars.. if you're talkign actual people, no, you need keybindings`
`15:13.06`	`maia`	`well, the workaround I was thinking of is making the (tinytip) tooltip clique-able, as it follows the cursor.`
`15:13.52`	`cladhaire`	`well if it follows the cursor, and it shows and hides, it can't be clickable.`
`15:14.00`	`maia`	`I'm referring to people riding past me in battlegrounds where I'd like to cast a SWP on them - if I have to click them to then move my mouse to the target pane, they usually are out of range already ;)`
`15:14.20`	`maia`	`righto. hmm.`
`15:14.28`	`Saeris`	`What if you used the MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED event to show/hide the frame?`
`15:14.49`	`cladhaire`	`Saeris: You could register it for unit watch on mouseover`
`15:14.52`	`cladhaire`	`that's the best you could do`
`15:14.57`	`Saeris`	`Ah.`
`15:19.06`	`Saeris`	`So, say you're already mousing over your intended target, and then you press a modifier key. The appropriate button (which already has a spell set to it based on the modifiers held down and its unit set to "mouseover") appears beneath the cursor's current location (that's an option, right?) and waits for a click to cast on the mouseover unit.`
`15:19.09`	`Saeris`	`Does that not work because the button obstructs the cursor from actually being over the unit in the world?`
`15:19.48`	`cladhaire`	`I'm not sure, but i suspect that would be the case`
`15:20.05`	`cladhaire`	`you could test it relatively easy`
`15:20.46`	`Saeris`	`Yeah, I just did actually. UnitExists("mouseover") returns nil upon click.`
`15:21.26`	`cladhaire`	`well, did the button have a "unit" associated with it?`
`15:23.22`	`Saeris`	`Just tested that too, with Rejuvenation as the spell. It doesn't cast. Oh well.`
`15:23.49`	`Hexarobi`	`any c++ heads here? i need a simple func to make a list of every filename in a folder`
`15:24.17`	`jaxdahl`	`why c++?`
`15:24.28`	`Dezzimal`	`its his homework`
`15:24.34`	`jaxdahl`	`^`
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`15:24.51`	`jaxdahl`	`sysexec("dir");`
`15:25.07`	`jaxdahl`	or sysexec(`ls`);
`15:25.09`	`Hexarobi`	`my addon builds a list of sound files stored in the sounds folder, and lets you play them`
`15:25.37`	`Hexarobi`	`it auto-adds a sound to the list on successful play, but people want to drop in 1000 files and have the list populated`
`15:25.55`	`Hexarobi`	`so ive added a command that takes a text file and adds the contents to the list`
`15:26.06`	`Hexarobi`	`but i need to write a simple c++ app to build the text file`
`15:26.38`	`Swemetal`	`how can i parse this string "You have slain Snowshow Rabbit!" so that i can save "Snowshow Rabbit" to a variable? currently i do string.sub(Arg1, 16), but the "!" is at the end of that string.`
`15:27.12`	`Dezzimal`	`so strip the !`
`15:27.18`	`Kaso`	`string.match(arg1,"You have slain %a+%!")`
`15:27.38`	`Swemetal`	`that returns "snowshow rabbit"?`
`15:27.52`	`Dezzimal`	`no it returns PS3s to best buy`
`15:28.25`	`Hexarobi`	`local start,stop,creature = string.find(arg1, 'You have slain a (.*)!');`
`15:29.28`	`Swemetal`	`thanks, i'll try that`
`15:30.14`	`Kaso`	`i forgot capture, but hex, isnt it better to use string.match if you're just capturing stuff from the string`
`15:30.24`	`Hexarobi`	`prolly`
`15:30.29`	`Hexarobi`	`mines far from optimal`
`15:31.06`	`Hexarobi`	`but i do tons of em in chess, and dont notice any kind of lag`
`15:31.16`	`Hexarobi`	`so they cant be that bad`
`15:31.20`	`Swemetal`	`the string.find seems to be slow, but it works`
`15:31.21`	`Kirov`	`local mob = string.match(arg1, "^You have slain a (.*)!$");`
`15:31.33`	`Kirov`	`should speed it up slightly`
`15:31.33`	`Swemetal`	`i will try the match`
`15:31.44`	`Kirov`	`specifically the ^ at the start`
`15:31.50`	`Kaso`	`ah yes`
`15:31.58`	`Hexarobi`	`ya`
`15:32.01`	`Kaso`	`always forget to anchor`
`15:32.09`	`Swemetal`	`may i ask, what ^ and $ is for`
`15:32.19`	`Hexarobi`	`^ = must be start of string`
`15:32.23`	`Hexarobi`	`$ = must be end of string`
`15:32.40`	`Swemetal`	`thanks`
`15:33.08`	`Swemetal`	`that works, thanks!`
`15:33.17`	`Kirov`	`with out the ^, if the string it's trying to match is longer than your expression it'll keep going past the first character continuing to try to match it.`
`15:33.43`	`Kirov`	`with it, if the first character isn't "Y" it stops right there.`
`15:34.21`	`Swemetal`	`i see`
`15:34.52`	`Kirov`	`string.sub and a == is slower than a failed match using a ^ most of the time.`
`15:43.41`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`hmm, whats the command to swap a page on an action bar?`
`15:47.01`	`Kaso`	`Isnt that protected now`
`15:47.18`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`well there's a keybind for it`
`15:47.31`	`Kaso`	`its protected in combat it seems.`
`15:47.47`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`joy :P`
`15:48.12`	`Kaso`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChangeActionBarPage be what you seek though`
`15:48.28`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`k, thanks`
`15:48.55`	`seebs`	`Hey, I figured I'd try this again, since it's a new crowd today: How would you go about determining that the player is using an item?`
`15:49.31`	`Kaso`	`scan his inventory?`
`15:49.54`	`Kaso`	`Using as in wearing, or using as in, Click Use: ing`
`15:49.56`	`seebs`	`I don't mean wearing, I mean the instant of activation.`
`15:50.25`	`seebs`	`The thing is, it LOOKS like I have to posthook both UseContainerItem and UseInventoryItem, and then check for at least the circumstances of "bank open" and "merchant open".`
`15:50.29`	`seebs`	`And that seems ridiculous.`
`15:50.47`	`Kaso`	`nope, thats it`
`15:50.52`	`Kaso`	`also, UseAction`
`15:51.02`	`seebs`	`Oh, geeze.`
`15:51.22`	`seebs`	`Also, in the case of a trinket or equippable item, how can I determine whether using it is going to equip it or actually activate it?`
`15:51.47`	`seebs`	`Since my function is a post-hook, I am not even sure I can rely on scanning inventory, because if the Blizz function did the equip...`
`15:51.49`	`Saeris`	`I don't think you can without parsing the tooltip.`
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`15:52.16`	`seebs`	`Well, even parsing the tooltip won't tell me.`
`15:52.18`	`Kaso`	`I belive theres a return saying equippable on some function lemme lookie`
`15:52.26`	`seebs`	`Yeah, but that doesn't help.`
`15:52.34`	`Kaso`	`hm?`
`15:52.36`	`seebs`	`Imagine that someone has a trinket on an action button.`
`15:52.47`	`Kaso`	`that, is tellable,`
`15:52.50`	`Saeris`	`It takes at least half a second to actually equip the item after clicking it. Parsing the inventory still works.`
`15:52.53`	`seebs`	`UseAction can tell me that the trinket's been "used", but it can't tell me whether that'll be equipping or activating it.`
`15:53.13`	`Kaso`	`when its equipped is has a Green border, so theres some function that says "this is equipped"`
`15:53.16`	`seebs`	`So, if it's equippable, but not in inventory, that means it's not really being used.`
`15:53.28`	`seebs`	`Boy. This is gonna be work.`
`15:53.44`	`Saeris`	`The half second delay is plenty of time to parse the trinket slots.`
`15:54.02`	`Kaso`	`IsEquippedAction(slotID)`
`15:54.03`	`seebs`	`Well, trinkets and everything else. Imagine a hypothetical warlock who carries, but doesn't usually wear, a Robe of the Void.`
`15:54.11`	`Saeris`	`But yeah, you could just use IsEquippedAction`
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`15:55.42`	`Saeris`	`Returns 1 if the action represents an item which is equipped, or nil for an item which is not equipped or does not need to be equipped to be used. If it returns nil, you can check the inventory.`
`15:55.43`	`seebs`	`Boy, this is gonna take forever. I'm also not sure whether any of these will catch "/use Linen Bandage", since I don't know how that's implemented.`
`15:56.21`	`Kaso`	`Thats Proberly UseContainerItem`
`15:56.38`	`Saeris`	`It falls under UseAction first, to execute the macrotext. I think.`
`15:57.09`	`seebs`	`Yeah. But I am not about to start parsing macros.`
`15:57.23`	`seebs`	`Although I wonder whether there's a way to tell that "A macro has been used".`
`15:57.36`	`Saeris`	`You can use GetActionText to tell if it's a macro and then just do a quick string.find for "/use" and the like.`
`15:58.04`	`Saeris`	`It's still pretty complex, but you don't have to hook the Use*Item functions.`
`15:58.29`	`seebs`	`Well, I still have to hook them in case of non-macro-users. :)`
`15:58.37`	`Kaso`	`Saeris however macros are simply parsed to the chatbox and executed that way, and surely the /use command calls UseContainerItem`
`15:58.45`	`Kaso`	`i dont think you need to worry about parsing macros`
`15:58.49`	`seebs`	`I wish there were events like UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT for this.`
`15:58.58`	`Saeris`	`There are, I'm pretty sure.`
`15:59.11`	`Saeris`	`Well, there is for food/drink.`
`15:59.32`	`Saeris`	`I don't know about equippables, just consumables. But I guess you're just after the former, yes?`
`16:00.49`	`Saeris`	`Items which have a Use: property have a spell associated with them. It can be caught with UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT or UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED, either of the events which provide additional information about the spell because they only correspond to the player.`
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`16:06.25`	`Tain`	`I have a dinner party coming up on Wednesday and I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to make.`
`16:07.36`	`Tain`	`So far I am thinkinng maybe a leg of lamb.`
`16:11.49`	`seebs`	`Oh, hey.`
`16:12.01`	`seebs`	`Saeris, if you're right, I just wasted ten minutes for nothing. I hope so!`
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`16:17.50`	`Industrial`	`i am LOVING the new auto attack`
`16:18.33`	`Industrial`	`meelee and ranged in one (changes to auto shot when in range) and it doesnt go away when you are running`
`16:18.39`	`Industrial`	`(and mob isnt dead)`
`16:18.41`	`Industrial`	`EZMODE`
`16:18.43`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`16:19.50`	`dranor`	`which breaks traps, sheeps and any method of cc`
`16:19.51`	`seebs`	`Wait, should auto-shot be converting to melee, then?`
`16:20.10`	`seebs`	`Saeris: You win. I should have tested before fussing. Sure enough, I get spellcast_sent for objects.`
`16:23.32`	`Saeris`	`Yeah, heh, even non-combat pet items have a spell associated with them. "Summon Diablo" was the first thing I discovered. :P`
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`16:26.34`	`Industrial`	`you can not blame breaking cc on autoshot`
`16:26.38`	`Industrial`	`its the palyers fault`
`16:26.56`	`AnduinLothar`	`damn palyers`
`16:27.15`	`Industrial`	`yaeh`
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`16:27.50`	`AnduinLothar`	`so, my 1h dps is 3 less than my 2h dps.. that's depressing`
`16:27.59`	`AnduinLothar`	`white only`
`16:29.21`	`Corr[home]`	`i wasn't aware that autoattack cancelled on sheeps anyway`
`16:29.31`	`AnduinLothar`	`it doesn't`
`16:29.41`	`AnduinLothar`	`but you can auto-cancil on target change`
`16:30.06`	`Industrial`	`hm I am critting 100 at level 17 with 10% crit chance :P`
`16:30.44`	`Corr[home]`	`dranor said that autoattack breaks sheeps, and Industrial said it's the player's fault, not autoattack's fault. it kinda sounds to me like autoattack used to automatically cancel, and now it doesn't, but Industrial thinks it's still the player's responsibility.`
`16:31.05`	`AnduinLothar`	`it did with defendyourself`
`16:31.05`	`Corr[home]`	`otherwise there's no difference from before and i don't see what point dranor was trying to make about it`
`16:31.22`	`Tain`	`Well it is the player's responsibility. Otherwise who's playing the game? The player or the addon?`
`16:31.45`	`cladhaire`	`The addon!`
`16:31.50`	`Industrial`	`the game combat system doesnt care about a cc being broken or not - the player does`
`16:31.56`	`Tain`	`Can the addon make me lunch?`
`16:32.05`	`cladhaire`	`no but it can butter your toast imo`
`16:32.27`	`Tain`	`There have been autoattack addons that did automatically turn off attack if you targetted a sheeped target, of course.`
`16:32.33`	`Tain`	`And that's a nice option.`
`16:32.37`	`Industrial`	`ohayou clad :P`
`16:32.52`	`Tain`	`I'm so annoyed, I went to Dunkin Donuts drivethru this morning to get a coffee and breakfast sandwich.`
`16:33.06`	`Tain`	`And after I got home I unwrapped it and it was on a croissant, not a bagel.`
`16:33.18`	`cladhaire`	`BOO`
`16:33.20`	`Corr[home]`	`just another reason to not invite your guild members on raids, when they can't control their attacks :)`
`16:33.22`	`cladhaire`	`that's seriosly depressing`
`16:33.40`	`Corr[home]`	`know what annoys me? when guildmates just stand around in a poison cloud, because i'm going to cure them anyway, right?`
`16:33.44`	`dranor`	`with the current autoatack system you have to double check if you don't have autoattack enabled`
`16:33.48`	`AnduinLothar`	`dont liek croissants?`
`16:33.59`	`Tain`	`I don't like croissant sandwiches.`
`16:34.16`	`Tain`	`Croissants don't have enough structure to support a sandwich.`
`16:34.34`	`Tain`	`Damn wimpy french pastry.`
`16:35.36`	`AnduinLothar`	`mmm if oyu say so. i happen to enjoy crosant sandwitches`
`16:36.17`	`xgravix`	`all your pastry are belong to france`
`16:36.33`	`Tain`	`Plus the croissant sandwiches are the most unhealthy that they offer. Not that getting a sandwich from Dunkin Donuts is the pinnacle of health, but I like to delude myself with tiny victories.`
`16:37.23`	`AnduinLothar`	`yay butter`
`16:40.20`	`TuX_BuBling`	`Yesterday someone gave a link for the newest DHUD`
`16:41.22`	`Qshadowp`	`are there any character profiles up?`
`16:41.27`	`Qshadowp`	`ctprofiles is down :<`
`16:42.00`	`Industrial`	`HO SHIT 3 * 100 crit in 2 seconds`
`16:42.06`	`Industrial`	`level 17`
`16:42.07`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`16:42.24`	`Tain`	`So much fun when that happens.`
`16:42.36`	`Industrial`	`its a twink tho :E`
`16:42.38`	`Tain`	`I used to feel bad for stuff I was killing sometimes levelling my Rogue when I'd do stuff like that.`
`16:43.07`	`Industrial`	`hehe`
`16:43.24`	`Tain`	`Of course I'd also talk to the game.`
`16:44.04`	`Tain`	`When I'd kill something and something else would jump me, and I'd say to the game, "Didn't you see what I just did to your buddy? What's wrong with you?"`
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`16:50.43`	`cladhaire`	`qq`
`16:50.50`	`cladhaire`	`o hai`
`16:52.01`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Hi`
`16:52.15`	`Tain`	`Hoo-ah!`
`16:52.26`	`Qshadowp`	`i dont even mind if i have to manually fill it in`
`16:52.44`	`AnduinLothar`	`thottbot broken?`
`16:52.51`	`Tain`	`I think I've only used the Alla char profiler.`
`16:53.10`	`Qshadowp`	`Alla...i'll look it up`
`16:53.16`	`Qshadowp`	`and thottbot has a chat profiler?`
`16:54.14`	`Tain`	`Qshadowp http://wow.allakhazam.com/ - I never type out the name myself since I always mispell it. Had to copy the link.`
`16:54.24`	`Qshadowp`	`lol oh :P`
`16:54.35`	`Qshadowp`	`Tain does it work with 2.0?`
`16:54.41`	`AnduinLothar`	`lol thottbot is the orig char profiler`
`16:54.43`	`Tain`	`But thottbot does have a char profiler, it can automatically upload for you.`
`16:55.24`	`Qshadowp`	`cool :)`
`16:55.25`	`Tain`	`Now I personally had issues getting only the char profiler piece running without the rest of Cosmos. Yes I know it's supposed to work, but I had issues and my short patience ran out.`
`16:55.41`	`Qshadowp`	`lol god i hate cosmos`
`16:55.49`	`Qshadowp`	`i remember i installed it, and i told it to only install cosmos`
`16:55.57`	`Qshadowp`	`so thats what it did...it only installed cosmos`
`16:56.01`	`Qshadowp`	`deleted all of my other addons ofc`
`16:56.02`	`Qshadowp`	`.-.`
`16:56.14`	`AnduinLothar`	`here we go again..`
`16:56.34`	`Tain`	`You can run the thottbot piece without the rest. Supposedly. It did't work for me the last time I tried, probably about six months ago. But it's supposd to.`
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`16:57.31`	`AnduinLothar`	`afaik thottbot is standalone now`
`16:57.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`it used t require Sea, Chronos`
`16:58.01`	`Tain`	`That may well have been the last time I tried it.`
`16:58.37`	`Tain`	`Hoooo boy Wiis still going for close to $500 on ebay. Crazy.`
`16:58.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`ah yes. Sea and chronos are embedded now if you dl the thottbot only distro`
`16:59.28`	`Tain`	`Or more. Wow.`
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`17:02.22`	`seebs`	`Yeah, so much for "we'll ship plenty". Hah.`
`17:02.53`	`Tain`	`Well, they did ship close to a million.`
`17:02.57`	`Cide`	`Qshadowp: ctprofiles is down?`
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`17:03.54`	`seebs`	`I do not regret spending a couple of hours out in the cold to get in line for a Wii.`
`17:04.20`	`Tain`	`I took a quick look because I'd spend say $50 instead of standing in the cold for 2 hours.`
`17:04.36`	`Tain`	`But the prices are a wii bit above that.`
`17:05.01`	`AnduinLothar`	`plus shipping`
`17:05.19`	`Hexarobi`	`Ive heard people have having problems with the wrist strap failing and the Wii controller flying thru a TV set`
`17:05.29`	`Tain`	`Yeah. But I was also looking at local auctions to me in the hopes of lower shipping or actually picking up.`
`17:05.37`	`Cide`	`@ Hexarobi www.wiihaveaproblem.com`
`17:05.46`	`Tain`	`Well Hexarobi my view on it is the wrist strap doesn't have to do anything if you just say... hold on to the remote.`
`17:07.15`	`seebs`	`I've had no problems with it yet.`
`17:07.38`	`seebs`	`I sort of wonder about the problem reports; they sound incoherent to me.`
`17:07.43`	`Cide`	`http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/images/p53/01.jpg`
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`17:07.49`	`Cide`	`that's awesome`
`17:08.11`	`Tain`	`I will say this. The European commercial for Rayman made me want a Wii more than anything I've seen. And not even for the Rayman game, because the commercial shows, even with fictional characters, how playing a Wii can be fun.`
`17:08.12`	`Tain`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB9Ru6vf0RU&eurl=`
`17:08.18`	`AnduinLothar`	`that's more force than they would be using..`
`17:09.10`	`seebs`	`I just really have a hard time believing that kind of force is occuring in actual play. I buy the Penny Arcade explanation.`
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`17:10.32`	`Maldivia`	`hmm`
`17:11.45`	`seebs`	`Thanks again Saeris for pointing out that my problem was already solved.`
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`17:18.43`	`TuX_BuBling`	`does someone has a working version of the judgehype addon?`
`17:18.52`	`seebs`	`Meh! I still have the coding bug but I don't immediately see something I want to add to my addon.`
`17:20.35`	`Saeris`	`That Rayman commercial is great.`
`17:21.00`	`Shadowsoul`	`hello everyone. anyone here using ClearFont with Calibri_1 as font? have some problems with it not using the font at all places`
`17:21.41`	`Kirkburn`	`AddOns or default UI?`
`17:22.43`	`Shadowsoul`	`both`
`17:23.26`	`Shadowsoul`	`doesn't override ECB's font, the text inside the tooltips (overrides title text tho) or the chat font for some reason`
`17:23.39`	`bindi`	`clique rly doesn't seem to work oO i don't get it`
`17:23.42`	`Shadowsoul`	`it works if i use one of the other font`
`17:23.51`	`cladhaire`	`Clique works just fine.`
`17:23.58`	`cladhaire`	`Did you watch the videos/read the FAQ?`
`17:24.35`	`bindi`	`have to check some stuff out but its just my macro thats fubar :) i'll be my fault :p pretty sure of that :D`
`17:24.43`	`cladhaire`	`heh`
`17:25.24`	`Kirkburn`	`Shadowsoul, eCB is one you have to do yourself - though I think it's in the Addon overrides file (haven't checked if it's changed recently though). Open ClearFont.toc and remove the # from the start of the ClearFontAddons.lua line.`
`17:25.58`	`Shadowsoul`	`ah, missed that one, just noticed you have to override it and thought it was in the luafule it was overridden`
`17:26.06`	`bindi`	`bleh its ok :) i just work with cast now instead of a macro :p`
`17:26.41`	`Kirkburn`	`For the chat font, no idea. Are you using the [WoW directory]/fonts folder, and do you have a chat log addon?`
`17:26.49`	`TuX_BuBling`	`does someone has a working version of the judgehype addon?`
`17:29.06`	`Shadowsoul`	`kirk: yeah, fonts are in the \WOW\Fonts, no addon at all that mess with the chat`
`17:30.25`	`Kirkburn`	`Well in that case the chat font must be being overridden, it just can't not be`
`17:30.50`	`Shadowsoul`	`hmm...i wonder if it might actually be that the default weight isn't bold any more`
`17:31.22`	`Kirkburn`	`Using the default setting, the WoW/fonts folder will make it bold, then the Lua code sets in back to normal`
`17:31.38`	`Shadowsoul`	`might be that part that's fooling me then`
`17:32.16`	`Shadowsoul`	`running very low scaled UI at 1920x1200 so it might just be that i can't see the difference in non-bold calibri and default`
`17:36.20`	`Industrial`	`Ugh whenever I view wow movies no google video I seen people TURNING with the keyboard and clicking the buttons with their mouse`
`17:36.36`	`Industrial`	`thats like writing with your lef thand, and I cant understand why people play like that`
`17:36.50`	`Industrial`	`Anyone here do that? :\|`
`17:37.27`	`AnduinLothar`	`<`
`17:37.40`	`Industrial`	`wry`
`17:37.56`	`AnduinLothar`	`because i can`
`17:38.09`	`AnduinLothar`	`probably the same reason that i can't touch type`
`17:38.37`	`Industrial`	`you dont play alot of shooting games either? (cause you use 1-5 allll the time in those)`
`17:39.16`	`Industrial`	`you are hunter right? I can jump look around shoot and look back in the air while kiting - you cant :P`
`17:39.31`	`AnduinLothar`	`fps isn't my primary gaming, no. but I've beaten UT, UT2k4, and FEAR...`
`17:39.42`	`AnduinLothar`	`and no, I play a pally`
`17:39.47`	`Industrial`	`:\`
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`17:40.16`	`Industrial`	`suppose I play rogue and you dont stun me`
`17:40.27`	`Industrial`	`I can stay behind you backstabbing you forever`
`17:40.28`	`Saeris`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0WxrEmZlvE <-- A preview of the BC intro video. It's from someone's cam 50 feet away from the projection screen, and at about a 30 degree angle, but it's cool nonetheless.`
`17:40.44`	`AnduinLothar`	`no you can't`
`17:40.52`	`AnduinLothar`	`I regularly beat rogues`
`17:40.55`	`Industrial`	`i turn+run faster then you can turn`
`17:41.11`	`TuX_BuBling`	`ok question do you know an addon that gives the player dropdownmenu on a minimap button??`
`17:41.32`	`AnduinLothar`	`i don't always turn with keyboard and i don't always cast with my mouse`
`17:41.39`	`AnduinLothar`	`but usually`
`17:42.12`	`Saeris`	`Isn't there a way to speed up the rate at which you turn with the keys, anyway? A cvar of some sort?`
`17:42.14`	`AnduinLothar`	`I only cast about 6 action buttons regularly with hotkeys`
`17:42.35`	`Industrial`	`meh ill stop trying to convert you - but it seems so disadvantageous to me :\|`
`17:42.55`	`AnduinLothar`	`and usually i'm tabbing or somehting while turning`
`17:43.15`	`AnduinLothar`	`or casting`
`17:43.47`	`Saeris`	`I only use keys 1-7, Shift 1-7, and Alt 1-5. 19 keys is usually enough, but if not I have everything else available for clicking. I turn and move with the mouse (holding down both keys to go forward).`
`17:44.06`	`AnduinLothar`	`i alternate`
`17:44.10`	`AnduinLothar`	`very fequently`
`17:44.25`	`AnduinLothar`	`if my left hand is busy i run with the mouse`
`17:45.24`	`AnduinLothar`	`besides, turnign has never stopped me from casting. always on global cooldeown`
`17:46.20`	`Saeris`	`Anduin, does ImprovedErrorFrame hook anything but the error handler?`
`17:46.28`	`AnduinLothar`	`i dunno`
`17:47.07`	`Saeris`	`Sinaloit maintains that, right?`
`17:47.20`	`AnduinLothar`	`not recently`
`17:47.25`	`AnduinLothar`	`I do`
`17:47.36`	`AnduinLothar`	`but that doesn't mean i can tell you off the top of my head`
`17:47.48`	`Osagasu`	`turning stops me from casting all the time. Of course, I'm usually channeling one spell or another or I'm turning to cast at someone behind me. :P`
`17:48.23`	`AnduinLothar`	`if it's a rogue i usually just hold down the turn button and spam stun`
`17:48.30`	`Saeris`	`Oh. Well, anyway, I get one of those annoying "an addon has performed an action only available to the Blizzard UI" popup boxes when I right-click on someone's name in chat and try to target them from the resulting dropdown menu.`
`17:48.30`	`Thrae`	`Turning stops casting? That's new.`
`17:48.46`	`Osagasu`	`Who maintains this Popup Power addon and Party Casting Bars?`
`17:48.50`	`AnduinLothar`	`me`
`17:49.09`	`Saeris`	`And that's with IEF being the only addon loaded.`
`17:49.28`	`AnduinLothar`	`ok saeris, i'll look into it`
`17:49.34`	`Saeris`	`Thanks.`
`17:49.48`	`Osagasu`	`Well, whenever I loot something I get a "blizzard has prevented Popup Power" error and I think Party Casting Bars is preventing the party frame from being removed in raid.`
`17:50.28`	`AnduinLothar`	`when was the last time oyu updated alpha?`
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`17:51.06`	`AnduinLothar`	`cause i fixed PopupPower on like thursdaya`
`17:51.23`	`Industrial`	`1 more level til my twink is level 19 :DD`
`17:51.33`	`Industrial`	`got all my gear <3`
`17:53.01`	`Thrae`	`I'm thinking of making a Druid twink with the new changes to Druids. I already have a Level 55 Druid, but PvP is different at lower levels.`
`17:53.46`	`Kirkburn`	`Saeris, NICE video`
`17:55.08`	`Saeris`	`Anyone know why GetManaRegen was removed from the UI build that went live?`
`17:56.08`	`Osagasu`	`The last time I updated alpha? yesterday morning.`
`17:56.28`	`TuX_BuBling`	`ok question do you know an addon that gives the player dropdownmenu on a minimap button??`
`17:56.30`	`MoonWolf`	`thrae, better make that a 29 druid.`
`17:56.39`	`MoonWolf`	`druids don't shine much at 19.`
`17:56.52`	`Thrae`	`MoonWolf: Nah not 19. But why not 39? Travel Form that way, for WSG.`
`17:57.04`	`MoonWolf`	`takes so long to get too`
`17:57.19`	`cladhaire`	`29 is a good time even withotu travel form`
`17:57.24`	`cladhaire`	`Feline Swiftness + Cat Form`
`17:57.35`	`MoonWolf`	`agreed.`
`17:57.38`	`Thrae`	`True`
`17:57.49`	`Thrae`	`What level do we get Mangle?`
`17:57.49`	`cladhaire`	`but 39 is a sweet place to sit as a druid`
`17:57.57`	`cladhaire`	`mangle?`
`17:57.57`	`cladhaire`	`60`
`17:57.59`	`cladhaire`	`err`
`17:57.59`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`17:57.59`	`cladhaire`	`50`
`17:58.05`	`Thrae`	`Aww`
`17:58.24`	`MoonWolf`	`nobody play's in the 49 59 brackets.`
`17:58.27`	`Saeris`	`Anyone got a link to the latest interface data extraction kit executable? I can't find it on the main site.`
`17:58.33`	`Thrae`	`I was counting on Mangle for the lower levels =/`
`17:58.36`	`cladhaire`	`Saeris: Its linked in both forum posts.`
`17:58.51`	`TuX_BuBling`	`how can i call the player dropdownmenu?`
`17:58.52`	`cladhaire`	`actually just one`
`17:59.00`	`cladhaire`	`http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/InterfaceAddOnKit_Win.zip`
`17:59.03`	`Saeris`	`Ah. I was looking in Blizzard's tech support knowledgebase thing.`
`17:59.05`	`cladhaire`	`TuX_BuBling: Look at PlayerFrame.lua`
`17:59.05`	`Saeris`	`Thanks.`
`17:59.09`	`Thrae`	`Maybe I'll just wait until BC and make a Draenei Shaman.`
`17:59.20`	`Kirkburn`	`(Breaking News: Augusto Pinochet has died)`
`17:59.29`	`cladhaire`	`TuX_BuBling: Its in the PlayerFrame_OnLoad() function.. then you have to trace it back from there to make it anchor to a different frame`
`18:00.14`	`cladhaire`	`purl, blizzuikit can be found at http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/`
`18:00.25`	`cladhaire`	`err`
`18:00.58`	`cladhaire`	`purl, blizzuikit is an tool provided by Blizzard, which can extract the default FrameXML and AddOns, available at http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/`
`18:00.59`	`purl`	`okay, cladhaire`
`18:01.03`	`cladhaire`	`~blizzuikit`
`18:01.04`	`purl`	`blizzuikit is, like, an tool provided by Blizzard, which can extract the default FrameXML and AddOns, available at http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/`
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`18:05.09`	`Saeris`	`Is there any function to get the while-casting mana regen of the player?`
`18:05.38`	`TuX_BuBling`	`cladhaire: where can i find it?`
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`18:05.57`	`cladhaire`	`two places, use the extraction toolkit i just linked`
`18:06.09`	`TuX_BuBling`	`possible online?`
`18:06.13`	`cladhaire`	`or http://wdn.wowinterface.com/`
`18:06.27`	`TuX_BuBling`	`yep better for me :)`
`18:06.28`	Funkeh`	`hey all`
`18:06.29`	`TuX_BuBling`	`thx`
`18:06.39`	`Saeris`	`I still have no idea why they removed GetManaRegen().`
`18:08.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Heh, cool new Coke advert: http://www.moving-picture.com/cokewhat`
`18:10.47`	`phreaky`	`that was nicely done`
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`18:28.30`	`SP\|Sorren`	`anyone know where i can get ct_viewport?`
`18:28.37`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i cant find the link on the ctmod site`
`18:29.21`	`AnduinLothar`	`wowi?`
`18:29.41`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i didnt see it on the extra low bandwidth page ;(`
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`18:32.42`	`hanzzon`	`is the ct_playernotes working for anyone? I can create them but on logout/in they are gone... (and it did not save my old notes...)`
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`18:39.24`	`Corrodias`	`this is strange. i have an urge to listen to some "boyz 2 men" or however they spell it`
`18:39.37`	`Tem`	`crap...`
`18:39.42`	`Tem`	`I'm out of quests again`
`18:40.08`	`Tem`	`I get the feeling that I'm just doing something wrong`
`18:40.13`	`Kirkburn`	`What level?`
`18:40.18`	`Tem`	`37`
`18:40.24`	`Kirkburn`	`Side?`
`18:40.30`	`Tem`	`Alliance`
`18:40.33`	`zenzio`	`there are a few dry spots for quests every now and then`
`18:40.50`	`Kirkburn`	`StV, Desolace, Theramore`
`18:40.59`	`Tem`	`ah, theramore`
`18:41.02`	`Tem`	`forgot about there`
`18:41.09`	`Kirkburn`	`=)`
`18:41.11`	`Industrial`	`what level is hillsbrad?`
`18:41.12`	`Tem`	`thanks`
`18:41.16`	`Kirkburn`	`20-30`
`18:41.17`	`Tem`	`20-30`
`18:41.23`	`Kirkburn`	`Well, it varies a bit for the alliance`
`18:41.31`	`Kirkburn`	`There's some higher stuff for Alterac`
`18:41.43`	`Kirkburn`	`(from Southshore)`
`18:41.48`	`Corrodias`	`STV is good for quite a while`
`18:41.53`	`Corrodias`	`lemme check my notes...`
`18:42.15`	`Tain`	`STV is one of those places where you quest, then have to leave for a few levels, then pick up the rest of the quests though. Well for me it always has been.`
`18:42.31`	`Kirkburn`	`What else? Arathi ... Feralas soon ...`
`18:42.36`	`Corrodias`	`it is. it has a wide range of quest levels`
`18:42.36`	`Tain`	`Plus StV sucks when you're Alliance and before you have a mount.`
`18:42.43`	`Kirkburn`	`PvP?`
`18:43.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Swamp of Sorrows too!`
`18:43.22`	`Kirkburn`	`Almost forgot that one`
`18:43.30`	`Corrodias`	`i'm sorry, i seem to be having trouble finding my note...`
`18:43.38`	`Corrodias`	`Kirkburn has probably hit them all`
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`18:44.16`	`Kirkburn`	`I was an avid explorer first time through`
`18:44.32`	`Kirkburn`	`I find it weird when people tell me they never went to, say, Desolace`
`18:44.39`	`Corrodias`	`where the hell is my "where to go" note? :(`
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`18:44.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Lol, irony :P`
`18:45.21`	`Corrodias`	`there it is in the .bak version of my notepad.lua file. what the hell.`
`18:45.43`	`TuX_BuBling`	`got something strange`
`18:45.48`	`TuX_BuBling`	`got a function`
`18:45.58`	`TuX_BuBling`	`function toglemenu`
`18:46.11`	`TuX_BuBling`	`ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, PlayerFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 10, 10);`
`18:46.12`	`TuX_BuBling`	`end`
`18:46.17`	`TuX_BuBling`	`show me the menu`
`18:46.40`	`TuX_BuBling`	`if i replace the ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, PlayerFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 10, 10); by:`
`18:46.47`	`TuX_BuBling`	`if ( button == "LeftButton" ) then`
`18:46.47`	`TuX_BuBling`	`ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, PlayerFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 10, 10);`
`18:46.47`	`TuX_BuBling`	`else`
`18:46.47`	`TuX_BuBling`	`ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, TargetFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 120, 10);`
`18:46.47`	`TuX_BuBling`	`end`
`18:46.56`	`TuX_BuBling`	`it doesn't show anything`
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`18:47.11`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ`
`18:47.27`	`Corrodias`	`oh, i have 29 notes. i think that's probably the limit to the number of notes this addon holds unless i go and edit it`
`18:47.45`	`Corrodias`	`must have overwritten the note when i added this one about a rogue build`
`18:48.05`	`Corrodias`	`i really should get up the motivation to make my own notepad addon`
`18:49.22`	`sysrage`	`anybody have a fix/temp workaround/whatever for the closewindow() bug? saw a script posted on cosmos forums but it doesn't seem to work`
`18:49.43`	`TuX_BuBling`	`any idea??`
`18:51.21`	`Corrodias`	`there's a bug?`
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`18:52.16`	`sysrage`	`ya. confirmed blizz bug. tains mods when it shouldn't`
`18:52.41`	`sysrage`	`taints`
`18:53.15`	`TuX_BuBling`	`cladhaire: what do you think of this?`
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`18:53.37`	`Elkano`	`closwindow()-bug? tell me more`
`18:54.50`	`cladhaire`	`TuX_BuBling: Huh?`
`18:55.23`	`sysrage`	`closeloot() sorry`
`18:55.33`	`sysrage`	`Bug Fixes`
`18:55.33`	`sysrage`	`* /click now works with secure action buttons`
`18:55.33`	`sysrage`	`* Fixed taint issues with CloseLoot()`
`18:55.33`	`sysrage`	`* Fixed taint issues with PickupContainerItem()`
`18:55.38`	`sysrage`	`https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=54916062&sid=1`
`18:55.39`	`TuX_BuBling`	`my little question if you have an idea`
`18:56.27`	`cladhaire`	`TuX_BuBling: I didn't see a question, so I have no effing clue what you're talking about.`
`18:56.32`	`Corrodias`	`when is it we get 2.0.2? after BC?`
`18:56.41`	`sysrage`	`that's what i heard, ya corrodias`
`18:58.09`	`TuX_BuBling`	`about my toggledropdownmenu problem`
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`18:58.49`	`Elkano`	`ok, the the closeloot-bug is most likely what I'm having with FramesResized`
`19:00.23`	`cladhaire`	`TuX_BuBling: I disconnected three times. I have absolutley no idea hwat you're talking about. Why don't you restate the problem instead of referring back to something ih ave no idea what your'e tlaking about?`
`19:01.42`	`TuX_BuBling`	`oh yes sorry you reconnected just after :)`
`19:01.49`	`Tem`	`Tuller, poke`
`19:01.50`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> got something strange`
`19:01.50`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> got a function`
`19:01.50`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> function toglemenu`
`19:01.50`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, PlayerFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 10, 10);`
`19:01.50`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> end`
`19:01.50`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> show me the menu`
`19:01.52`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> if i replace the ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, PlayerFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 10, 10); by:`
`19:01.55`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> if ( button == "LeftButton" ) then`
`19:01.57`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, PlayerFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 10, 10);`
`19:01.59`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> else`
`19:02.03`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, TargetFrameDropDown, "rc_DropDown", 120, 10);`
`19:02.05`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> end`
`19:02.07`	`TuX_BuBling`	`<TuX_BuBling> it doesn't show anything`
`19:02.09`	`TuX_BuBling`	`sorry for the paste`
`19:03.00`	`cladhaire`	`pastey.net the code`
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`19:05.12`	`TuX_BuBling`	`you all have it here`
`19:06.01`	`cladhaire`	`no i don't.`
`19:06.12`	`cladhaire`	`i need the handler definition`
`19:06.14`	`cladhaire`	`and the funcion`
`19:06.18`	`cladhaire`	`your code does not exist in a vacuum`
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`19:06.40`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`sure it does Clad :P`
`19:06.42`	`Corrodias`	`but it sure sucks!`
`19:06.48`	`Corrodias`	`ah, just kidding. i had to use that one.`
`19:06.48`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`in it's own little world ;P`
`19:06.51`	`CA\|Jackfrost`	`Moo`
`19:07.12`	`Kirkburn`	`TuX_BuBling, please do be careful about posting too much at once, even a few lines, it can disconnect both you and others`
`19:07.41`	`phreaky`	`disconnect others? =)`
`19:07.44`	`Kirkburn`	`Plus 'wall o' text' makes kittens cry :(`
`19:07.45`	`TuX_BuBling`	`ye sorry :/`
`19:07.49`	`CA\|Jackfrost`	`Quick question guys.. Is there an API function to send your own messages through the Blizzard Combat text scroller?`
`19:08.05`	`Kirkburn`	`phreaky, yes.`
`19:08.59`	`Corrodias`	`that seems silly`
`19:09.01`	`CA\|Jackfrost`	`I tried looking at the wowwiki api pages, but didn't find anything about it.`
`19:10.05`	`seebs`	`JF: Haven't seen one, but it's an awesome idea.`
`19:10.35`	`CA\|Jackfrost`	`I want to add a feature to oCD so it sends a message up through the combat scroller when a cooldown is up :)`
`19:11.48`	`TuX_BuBling`	`http://rafb.net/paste/results/uGbJOV33.html << here is by button def`
`19:11.55`	`TuX_BuBling`	`in my xml file`
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`19:18.44`	`Tomed`	`anyone know if there's a simple Visor/VisorGUI-type addon that's working atm?`
`19:19.40`	`Grem`	`Guys, I thought Bliz was making it so that you couldnt PlaceAuctionBid`
`19:19.46`	`Grem`	`unless it was a hardware event`
`19:19.51`	`Grem`	`I thought Bottomfeeder was supposed to be broken`
`19:20.55`	`Tain`	`My cousin just called me saying they picked up a PS3 because the store had one, but they don't need it and want to know if anyone wants to buy it from them (for cost.) I said... nah.`
`19:21.07`	`Tain`	`Wasn't Bottomfeeder removed?`
`19:21.11`	`Corrodias`	`ps3... doesn't excite me`
`19:21.14`	`Grem`	`It's back, and improved Tain`
`19:21.19`	`Corrodias`	`you can't just "remove" data from the world`
`19:21.28`	`Grem`	`It's back Corrodias`
`19:21.31`	`Grem`	`It has a new name too`
`19:21.32`	`Grem`	`BTMScan`
`19:21.45`	`Grem`	`It's in the latest auctioneer build`
`19:22.23`	`Grem`	`I thought Bliz specifically said in the patch notes that bidding on items needs to be a hardware event`
`19:23.03`	`Tain`	`Dunno, I thought so.`
`19:23.14`	`seebs`	`Huh. I wonder how they arranged it, then. I understood that Norganna had been told politely to please not do that.`
`19:23.16`	`Tain`	`I also thought the Auctioneer team agreed to take Bottomfeeder functionality out.`
`19:23.20`	`seebs`	`So it may be that the new version does something different.`
`19:23.55`	`Tain`	`Not knowing the facts however I feel I am qualified to make uninformed judgements.`
`19:24.14`	`Grem`	`The new version does the exact same thing`
`19:24.41`	`Kirkburn`	`I also thought someone got warned for using it?`
`19:26.18`	`Corrodias`	`since blizzard has never made a news post about it being disallowed, i strongly suspect that would be overruled upon appeal`
`19:26.25`	`Corrodias`	`if even true`
`19:27.25`	`Tain`	`Uh`
`19:27.30`	`Tain`	`Who's going to overrule it?`
`19:27.57`	`Tain`	`Anyway I heard you can be banned for looking in the mirror and saying, "BottomFeeder" three times.`
`19:27.59`	`Corrodias`	`someone in the customer service department other than the person who issued the warning`
`19:28.34`	`Corrodias`	`i really have no idea. -somebody- over there has to have authority higher than "some GM"`
`19:28.42`	`sysrage`	`so no known workarounds for the CloseLoot() bug?`
`19:28.52`	`Industrial`	`WOOT ding 19`
`19:28.57`	`Industrial`	`let the poonage pegin`
`19:29.04`	`Industrial`	`and then let it begin`
`19:30.11`	`Kirkburn`	`omg, it's peginning!`
`19:32.22`	`Tem`	`sysrage, the call seems to do exactly what it's supposed to despite the blocked message`
`19:32.27`	`Tem`	`sysrage, so just hide the popup`
`19:39.57`	`sysrage`	`how?`
`19:40.13`	`sysrage`	`that's what a script i found on cosmos site said it did, but it doesn't seem to work. at least not for xloot`
`19:40.19`	`sysrage`	`nor quickloot`
`19:41.20`	`sysrage`	`actually might work for quickloot. forgot to change my script when i tried that..`
`19:42.19`	`sysrage`	`nope. still fails on quickloot`
`19:43.57`	`Saeris`	`You could just wrap the CloseLoot call inside of an InCombatLockdown evaluation. Sure, then you have to close the loot window yourself if you loot an empty source while in combat, but that's better than that goddamned popup.`
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`19:45.27`	`Miyh0`	`any1 knows any good addons for rogues?`
`19:47.38`	`sysrage`	`i'd rather shift-loot until somebody figures out a workaround or blizz gets off their ass and releases patch`
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`19:48.28`	`Inside`	`There's an automatic loot on click option in interface options..`
`19:48.30`	`Inside`	`>_>`
`19:50.06`	`Tain`	`Miyh0: There are a lot of them. What are you looking for?`
`19:50.35`	`Miyh0`	`Tain i dont know, the most used of them`
`19:50.42`	`Miyh0`	`like.. the base..`
`19:50.44`	`Shadowed`	`It's already a known issue sysrage`
`19:50.45`	`Miyh0`	`basic*`
`19:51.22`	`Shadowed`	`but it's hardly major enough for Blizzard to need to release a patch now instead of in 2.0.2`
`19:52.02`	`sysrage`	`i know, was just hoping there's a way to auto-hide the tainted mod message box or something`
`19:52.40`	`Shadowed`	`Can you not hide it through hooking staticpopup functions?`
`19:53.07`	`AnduinLothar`	`you can`
`19:53.26`	`AnduinLothar`	`was thinkign of adding that functionality to IEf, just haven't gotten around to it`
`19:54.23`	`[Cu]Werik`	`Have a nice night`
`19:56.15`	`sysrage`	`how tough is that anduin? i don't know jack about lua`
`19:56.37`	`AnduinLothar`	`it's not. just time i dont have`
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`20:00.58`	`zenzio`	`lol, that's new... [1. General] [...]: sos, money 3 gold, pleas`
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`20:19.57`	`Darklin`	`Tuller: Hey there. =)`
`20:20.06`	`Tuller`	`Darklin: hello`
`20:21.18`	`Darklin`	`Tuller: How's the weekend going for you?`
`20:21.32`	`Tuller`	`Darklin: uhh, yes`
`20:22.17`	`Darklin`	`Just making conversation. =P`
`20:23.14`	`Tuller`	`Darklin: probably not much time for me to code until after tuesday due to finals and such`
`20:23.15`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`better then mine :) writing up system documentation on some database for wor`
`20:26.17`	`Darklin`	`Tuller: Um. Ok then. Wasn't really after your coding. I'm actually working on rewriting actionBar/state.lua myself`
`20:26.24`	`Darklin`	`Just was chatting.`
`20:26.34`	`Tuller`	`Darklin: I knew that :)`
`20:26.40`	`Tuller`	`Darklin: just explaining my weekend :)`
`20:26.55`	`Darklin`	`Tuller: Ah. Cool. Studying alot then?`
`20:27.05`	`Darklin`	`What finals do you have coming up?`
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`20:34.03`	`Industrial`	`what glow is purple on weapons? wha enchant is it?`
`20:34.59`	`phreaky`	`spelldmg?`
`20:35.15`	`phreaky`	`My +30 spelldmg glows purple at least`
`20:39.38`	`CA\|Jackfrost`	`Industrial, spelldamage ye.. faint purple glow`
`20:42.32`	`Industrial`	`but he was a rogue :S`
`20:42.47`	`Industrial`	`what color is crusader?`
`20:43.29`	`CA\|Jackfrost`	`Very faint white glow`
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`20:45.46`	`Kirkburn`	`Random off-topic talk time :P I love Scrubs :D`
`20:45.50`	`Tain`	`Please be a C++ GUI Programming guide.`
`20:47.42`	`PProvost`	`Scrubs is hilarious. First season was the best.`
`20:47.52`	`Tem`	`Kirkburn, you mean "I love the only funny sit-com currently on TV?"`
`20:47.53`	`PProvost`	`It remains to be seen if they can keep it that good.`
`20:48.01`	`PProvost`	`So far so good.`
`20:48.14`	`Kirkburn`	`Tem, haha`
`20:48.22`	`Tem`	`<3 Scrubs`
`20:48.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Have you ever seen Green Wing?`
`20:48.43`	`Tain`	`I do also like Studio 60 though.`
`20:48.54`	`Hexarobi`	`ya studio 60`
`20:49.01`	`Kirkburn`	`It's like what Scrubs would have been like if it was made in the UK. Utterly, utterly insane.`
`20:49.04`	`PProvost`	`I've been thinking about an addon for sync-ing joining AV to help teams do premades. Anyone seen anything like that?`
`20:49.36`	`PProvost`	`We've always just done it via chat... you know... "Ready? 3-2-1-0"`
`20:50.05`	`Darklin`	`Pprovost: You mean for cross server premades?`
`20:50.25`	`PProvost`	`No. Just so me and my guildies can go in together easier.`
`20:50.33`	`Darklin`	`What's wrong with JoinAsGroup?`
`20:50.48`	`PProvost`	`As I said... is there such a thing? :)`
`20:50.53`	`PProvost`	`I didn't know of one.`
`20:50.58`	`PProvost`	`JoinAsGroup does this?`
`20:51.05`	`Darklin`	`Yes, the standard UI allows you to Join a BG as a group`
`20:51.10`	`PProvost`	`Not AV`
`20:51.12`	`Darklin`	`It's built right in.`
`20:51.15`	`PProvost`	`Not AV`
`20:51.32`	`Darklin`	`You can't preform the raid then join as group?`
`20:51.38`	`PProvost`	`Let me say it one more time... Not AV`
`20:51.49`	`PProvost`	`AV doesn't have any join as group caps.`
`20:52.00`	`PProvost`	`People do timed entry to simulate it, but it still doesn't guarantee anything.`
`20:52.25`	`Darklin`	`Wonder why they did that?`
`20:52.33`	`PProvost`	`No idea`
`20:52.38`	`PProvost`	`Always been that way`
`20:53.40`	`Industrial`	`:s`
`20:53.59`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge MatthewS (n=duncan@66.29.11.181)`
`20:54.39`	`Tem`	`It hasn't ALWAYS been that way`
`20:54.41`	`Saeris`	`Hasn't always been that way.`
`20:54.46`	`Tem`	`it was changed shortly after AV came out`
`20:54.49`	`PProvost`	`No? Okay. Has since I started playing.`
`20:54.57`	`Tem`	`I suspect it was either screwing up the queutimes`
`20:55.01`	`Saeris`	`They removed the ability to do so in 1.7 or 1.8. Right around there.`
`20:55.06`	`Tem`	`or making the games WAY too unbalanced`
`20:55.14`	`PProvost`	`Since before cross realm BGs though...`
`20:55.20`	`Saeris`	`Long before.`
`20:55.28`	`Tem`	`Long, Long before`
`20:55.35`	`PProvost`	`Regardless... I know a lot of people simulate premades by timing the entry.`
`20:55.39`	`Tem`	`right`
`20:55.47`	`PProvost`	`Seems like something that could be automated via comm channels.`
`20:55.48`	`Tem`	`It doesn't work so well with Xrealm`
`20:56.03`	`Tem`	`ooh, I like how you think PP`
`20:56.13`	`PProvost`	`I was in AV yesterday w/ 30 from Perenolde. I think it worked alright for them.`
`20:56.41`	`Tem`	`heh`
`20:56.46`	`Tem`	`I've never gotten it to work`
`20:56.51`	`Tem`	`but we didn't try all that hard`
`20:56.51`	`PProvost`	`They kicked our ass. :)`
`20:56.57`	`Tem`	`I bet lol`
`20:57.19`	`PProvost`	`I use it every day. We first do 3-2-1-0 countdown, then check back at 10-20-30 secs in to see if we are synced.`
`20:57.31`	`PProvost`	`Works 80% of the time.`
`20:57.35`	`PProvost`	`Not bad`
`20:58.23`	`Darklin`	`PProvost: you could integrate it with a readycheck like functionality`
`20:58.55`	`Darklin`	`Have the raidleader issue a special readycheck. When everyone clicks yes, trigger something that accepts a specific queue.`
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`20:59.36`	`Darklin`	`Then have the mod check back like 20 seconds later to make sure everyone is within a certian queue time range, say, 30 seconds.`
`21:01.02`	`PProvost`	`We requeue if we are more than 1 sec off from each other.`
`21:01.25`	`PProvost`	`That helps keep our success rate up.`
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`21:02.15`	`Darklin`	`That or you could go to the blizzard forums and pester them to reactivate the Join As Group function.`
`21:05.09`	`Industrial`	`Kaelten: What do OneRing, OneStorage and OneView do?`
`21:05.33`	`Jens`	`Hey... rate my interface :) http://jensrex.net/img/wowui.jpg`
`21:06.10`	`Industrial`	`6/10`
`21:06.25`	`Industrial`	`It's styles dont really match and the chat is a mess :P`
`21:06.48`	`Jens`	`The chat is very unmessy. Public on right, private on left.`
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`21:08.23`	`Jens`	`I wish I could move online notifications to the other window.`
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`21:08.54`	`Darklin`	`Tuller: You still about, if so, is there any particular reason you chose to make a new SecureStateHeader for each bar as opposed to making one stateheader and 'addchild'ing the bars to it?`
`21:09.19`	`Industrial`	`http://www.imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_121006_1240162db.jpg`
`21:09.20`	`Industrial`	`rate mine`
`21:09.26`	`Guillotine`	`if you want the bars to change states seperately, you should make each one a securestateheader I believe`
`21:09.36`	`Industrial`	`(I should remove/re-place the buttons on the right)`
`21:10.04`	`Darklin`	`Industrial: Nice and clean.`
`21:10.16`	`Jens`	`That's... minimal.`
`21:10.33`	`Jens`	`You make do with a 8 line chat window for everything?`
`21:10.35`	`Darklin`	`Guillotine: Aye, i've been hunting for reference on that.`
`21:10.47`	`Industrial`	`yep`
`21:11.02`	`Darklin`	`It does seem to make sense that that's the way it would work.`
`21:11.20`	`Jens`	`What are the randomly colored bars for?`
`21:11.24`	`Guillotine`	`Industrial: you could scale down the bag frames. don't need it that big`
`21:11.33`	`Industrial`	`They are not randomly colored, they are unitframes`
`21:11.41`	`Industrial`	`left is hp colored by class`
`21:11.46`	`Darklin`	`But the way the bars work they all respond to the same state events. (Stance Changes or Page Changes are the two biggies.)`
`21:11.47`	`Industrial`	`right is MP colored by type`
`21:11.58`	`Guillotine`	`Industrial: how is there 565/565 energy?`
`21:12.00`	`Darklin`	`AFK to smoke and ponder.`
`21:12.01`	`Industrial`	`Guillotine: I only show them to change bags :P`
`21:12.10`	`Industrial`	`Guillotine: error, I have mana`
`21:12.23`	`Guillotine`	`ah, ok`
`21:12.34`	`Industrial`	`I liked it so I never fixed it`
`21:12.35`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`21:12.46`	`Guillotine`	`only thing I'd do differently is have target's health/mana on the top`
`21:13.01`	`Industrial`	`then you have to look there all the time`
`21:13.07`	`Guillotine`	`I meant top of the row`
`21:13.18`	`Guillotine`	`top of those 4 bars`
`21:13.21`	`Jens`	`Well, consider my assy interface from a while ago :D http://jensrex.net/img/myinterface.jpg`
`21:13.25`	`Guillotine`	`rather than the second`
`21:13.29`	`Industrial`	`tot, target, me, pet, party1-4`
`21:13.34`	`Guillotine`	`ahhh, ok`
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`21:14.13`	`Industrial`	`I didnt add a mana bar for tot cause its not really important`
`21:14.17`	`Industrial`	`and theres a casting bar there`
`21:14.19`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`21:14.28`	`Industrial`	`size and shape of what would be the tot mana bar`
`21:14.32`	`Guillotine`	`what addon are you using for unitframes? your own?`
`21:14.35`	`Industrial`	`mine`
`21:14.51`	`Industrial`	`idInterface on wowi but I havent updated for 2.0 yet`
`21:14.53`	`Industrial`	`alot broke`
`21:15.09`	`Industrial`	`using bongos now too as a replacement :(`
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`21:15.48`	`axxo`	`Jens: azjol-nerub!`
`21:15.54`	`Jens`	`Had first raid with Grid today. I liked it. But it's a little hard to get used to.`
`21:15.58`	`Jens`	`axxo: Indeed.`
`21:16.11`	`Jens`	`How can you tell?`
`21:16.24`	`axxo`	`vita luna :) i'm on there too`
`21:16.31`	`Jens`	`Oh cool.`
`21:17.49`	`Jens`	`I need something to keep track of my DoTs.`
`21:17.55`	`axxo`	`chronometer`
`21:17.56`	`Guillotine`	`Chronometer`
`21:18.01`	`Guillotine`	`lol`
`21:18.03`	`Guillotine`	`I lose :(`
`21:18.11`	`Darklin`	`Tuller: Correct me if I'm wrong but there's only 10 possible 'pages' of buttons, correct?`
`21:18.27`	`axxo`	`how is vita luna doeing raid progression wise?`
`21:18.28`	`Darklin`	`In bongos that is.`
`21:18.31`	`Industrial`	`Kaelten: What do OneRing, OneStorage and OneView do?`
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`21:19.01`	`Industrial`	`oh oh comedy night`
`21:19.02`	`Industrial`	`bbl`
`21:19.04`	`Industrial`	`(tv)\`
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`21:42.54`	`Tem`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6636243550409568672`
`21:46.52`	`grimman`	`Anyone got a working QuickTrade addon? :P`
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`21:50.15`	`Guillotine`	`grimman: doesn't work`
`21:50.24`	`Guillotine`	`addons can't activate trade anymor`
`21:51.52`	`bleetah`	`yay! no more auto-beggars!`
`21:52.15`	`Guillotine`	`no, it can open trade, just not auto-accept ;)`
`21:52.58`	`bleetah`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:53.21`	`bleetah`	`one day I'll get around to writing something that ignores all /w, trades etc. from people not in my guild or on my firend's list`
`21:53.37`	`Guillotine`	`o.O`
`21:53.42`	`Guillotine`	`how do you get groups?`
`21:53.47`	`Guillotine`	`I can understand trades, but...`
`21:54.00`	`Shadowed`	`if you're in a raiding guild, you don't need groups :p`
`21:54.05`	`Tain`	`Don't group with people outside of your guild and it isn't an issue.`
`21:54.07`	`Guillotine`	`you will with TBC`
`21:54.12`	`Shadowed`	`naw`
`21:54.15`	`Shadowed`	`thats what guildies are for`
`21:54.19`	`Tain`	`I won't.`
`21:54.28`	`Tain`	`If I have to do pickup groups I won't play.`
`21:54.32`	`Guillotine`	`lol`
`21:54.49`	`Tain`	`That's how i've played since EverQuest, I'm not about to change now.`
`21:54.52`	`Guillotine`	`I have a feeling some of my guild will level super quickly, some slowly, so we're not going to be able to level together much`
`21:54.58`	`Shadowed`	`I wish the servers we're like the current TBC ones people are smart and helpful, and actually can play there class...except for a few people`
`21:55.03`	`Tain`	`The few times I've tried again has been as miserable an experience as I remember.`
`21:55.04`	`nevcairiel`	`What about alts which are not in the guild?`
`21:55.19`	`Guillotine`	`Shadowed: you must be horde`
`21:55.20`	`Tain`	`If they're people I want to group with they're in our private channel anyway.`
`21:55.22`	`bleetah`	`but seriously, it'd probably disable some stuff for those situations... including an exceptions list`
`21:55.23`	`Shadowed`	`Guillotine alliance`
`21:55.31`	`bleetah`	`'coz the friends list is still way too small`
`21:55.38`	`Shadowed`	`but the smart to idiot ratio is smaller then on live servers`
`21:55.39`	`Guillotine`	`o.O try asking people where the amulet is. then tell me their helpful :P`
`21:55.42`	`Guillotine`	`true`
`21:56.16`	`Tain`	`Although I wouldn't block all non-guild whispers, actually.`
`21:56.30`	`Tain`	`I do still get tells from people and if they're polite I help.`
`21:56.31`	`Shadowed`	`To bad we can't block whispers based on level`
`21:56.42`	`Shadowed`	`well technically you could I guess with enough work and some open friends list slots`
`21:56.44`	`Tain`	`Especially as a Rogue in town.`
`21:57.50`	`Kirkburn`	`This is awesome! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7neFYuY1YQ`
`21:58.19`	`Tain`	`Someone says, "unlock" and opens a trade window they'll get ignored. Someone says, "Could you unlock a box for me?" and waits for a response, I'll do it and refuse any money`
`21:58.44`	`Shadowed`	`Tain needs more practice being a rogue`
`21:58.56`	`Shadowed`	`you're suppose to unlock it and not accept the trade`
`21:59.16`	`Tain`	`That's just too much of my time taken up. :)`
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`21:59.38`	`Tain`	`That does remind me though, EasyUnlock didn't work after the patch. That made me sadder than anything.`
`22:00.23`	`Guillotine`	`I feel insulted. At http://rdx.emoemu.com/?page_id=10 , not only am I the only person in the entire tutorial with his name cut off, but I am also dead`
`22:00.29`	`Tain`	`I had to search through my book to try to find where the heck Pick Locks was`
`22:00.55`	`bleetah`	`true, most of the time I ignore begs for water/rolls, 'coz people are usually 'could you make me some rolls and water', whereas I prefer 'I'm sorry for intruding, you must get this all the time, but would you be able to make me some water/rolls'`
`22:01.17`	`bleetah`	`or even worse, is the 'make me some water/rolls'`
`22:01.24`	`Guillotine`	`I only ask for water from random mages after I help save their lives :P`
`22:01.25`	`Shadowed`	`I just ask guildies`
`22:01.31`	`Guillotine`	`ya, or guildies of course`
`22:01.33`	`Shadowed`	`"Water bitch, now" usually does it :p`
`22:02.00`	`Guillotine`	`I like opening trade and putting in 25c and whispering them "C'mon stupid vending machine, work already!"`
`22:02.01`	`Shadowed`	`all our mages are gnomes thought, no idea why`
`22:02.26`	`Tain`	`Yeah I used to get "water pls" and that's it`
`22:02.35`	`Shadowed`	`think we have like 6 gnome mages, 1 human, two gnome locks, one human lock. :(`
`22:02.38`	`Guillotine`	`I just open trade in guild raids :P`
`22:02.44`	`Guillotine`	`don't even whisper`
`22:03.02`	`nevcairiel`	`all our locks are gnomes, but nearly all mages human`
`22:03.16`	`Tain`	`I just made it easier on myself. I never got the top summon water quest on my mage`
`22:03.25`	`Guillotine`	`haha`
`22:03.54`	`Shadowed`	`odd`
`22:04.02`	`bleetah`	`Kirkburn: that is a pretty amusing vid`
`22:04.07`	`Guillotine`	`like how, despite the fact I'm full resto, I got furor instead of imp mark so that I wouldn't be asked to buff`
`22:04.11`	`Shadowed`	`I swear about 95% of our mages/gnomes that are guilded or app, are mages`
`22:04.23`	`Tain`	`I'm not kidding, I was so sick of it. Mage was my first char to 60 and I began to detest playing.`
`22:04.48`	`Guillotine`	`Shadowed: 95% of your mages that are guilded or app are mages? funny, 100% of ours are :P`
`22:05.01`	`Shadowed`	`Guillotine: they kill off the human mages slowly`
`22:05.07`	`Shadowed`	`it used to be 90% :p`
`22:05.30`	`Guillotine`	`ya, +5% int > +5% spirit for a mage`
`22:06.22`	`seebs`	`WOOOO!`
`22:06.29`	`seebs`	`I have successfully added cool new features to AnnoyRP.`
`22:06.56`	`Kirkburn`	`bleetah, I organised 2 of those for my guild once :P`
`22:06.57`	`seebs`	`It can now emit things on "player hit" or "player crit". The former is probably going to mark the first time that a common feature request is "TAKE THIS OUT".`
`22:07.20`	`sysrage`	`joy.. zul'jin taking a dump`
`22:07.32`	`Dezzimal`	`ok`
`22:07.32`	`bleetah`	`Kirkburn: best I've been involved in was an 80man hogger, opening night of Aman'thul Oceanic realm`
`22:07.39`	`Shadowed`	`Time to make AnnoyFilter to counter AnnoyRP`
`22:07.42`	`seebs`	`Hee.`
`22:07.45`	`Kirkburn`	`However, one of my choices was rather harder =) IF to Light's Hope Chapel :D`
`22:07.53`	`Dezzimal`	`lets say thunderfury was tradeable, and it never became soulbound`
`22:07.55`	`Kirkburn`	`lol, did you win? =)`
`22:08.02`	`Dezzimal`	`and your main tank just got one`
`22:08.07`	`bleetah`	`our guild's talking about a lvl 1 run from IF to SW without using the tram`
`22:08.09`	`seebs`	`Tempting. If there were a non-disruptive way to flag messages so people could filter them, I'd do it.`
`22:08.09`	`Shadowed`	`Dezzimal: Then more idiots would have it then they already do`
`22:08.12`	`Dezzimal`	`nah...let say a rogue jsut got one`
`22:08.21`	`Kirkburn`	`bleetah, heh, great idea`
`22:08.25`	`Dezzimal`	`but he felt like quitting the game about a week after he got it`
`22:08.26`	`bleetah`	`Kirkburn: nah, didn't make it out of northshire alive :-(`
`22:08.35`	`Kirkburn`	`:O`
`22:08.36`	`Dezzimal`	`would you have him give the thunderfury to someone else in the guild?`
`22:08.42`	`Kirkburn`	`Out of Northshire!?`
`22:08.54`	`Shadowed`	`not really`
`22:09.06`	`Shadowed`	`If he wanted to give it to someone else, he could, but i'd certainly not force him to`
`22:09.16`	`bleetah`	`the respawn rate for all mobs is highly wound up on server opening, got my ass chewed by being lagged and accidentally aggroing`
`22:09.42`	`bleetah`	`most oceanic players live with a latency (minimum) of around 300msm when things get busy 6-700ms is standard`
`22:10.01`	`Dezzimal`	`Shadowed: yeah I just got removed from my guild for being the reluctant rogue`
`22:10.12`	`Dezzimal`	`in another mmo lol`
`22:10.24`	`Dezzimal`	`I quit for WoW right after recieving a big ticket item`
`22:10.28`	`sysrage`	`if you felt like quitting, why do you care?`
`22:10.40`	`Shadowed`	`if you knew you we're quitting, why did you take it in the first place? :p`
`22:10.41`	`Dezzimal`	`idk I just hate to have everyone hate me`
`22:10.59`	`Dezzimal`	`so my account would go for a few more dollars on ebay`
`22:11.03`	`Dezzimal`	`>_>`
`22:11.19`	`Shadowed`	`can't blame them for hatting you if you aren't joking then!`
`22:11.33`	`Dezzimal`	`I didn't think I was quitting when I got it`
`22:11.43`	`Dezzimal`	`I was just playing WoW casually`
`22:11.51`	`Shadowed`	`So what item did you uget, TF or HoR?`
`22:11.56`	`Dezzimal`	`like 2-3hrs a week maybe for the better half of a year`
`22:12.07`	`Shadowed`	`-u`
`22:12.15`	`Dezzimal`	`nothing in WoW, it was in FFXI`
`22:12.20`	`Shadowed`	`oh`
`22:12.29`	`Shadowed`	`I thought FFXI accounts we're worthless due to farmers?`
`22:12.30`	`Dezzimal`	`got a big ticket item in FFXI, then quit for WoW 2 weeks later lol`
`22:12.36`	`Dezzimal`	`nah`
`22:12.41`	`Dezzimal`	`endgame ones go for quite a bit`
`22:12.47`	`Shadowed`	`ahh`
`22:12.53`	`Dezzimal`	`but average accounts are next to worthless`
`22:13.10`	`Dezzimal`	`you have to have a tier 3 equiv acct for it to be worth anythign over 300`
`22:15.08`	`Dezzimal`	`anyway...I'm not selling on ebay`
`22:15.17`	`Dezzimal`	`but I am deactivating the account in its current state`
`22:15.20`	`Guillotine`	`seebs: you can have a non-disruptive way. put \10 at the beginning of the message. its an invisible character, but people get it`
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`22:15.50`	`seebs`	`Hmm!`
`22:16.20`	`Guillotine`	`at least that worked several patches ago, might not still. If it doesn't though, you can put a chinese character at the beginning. same deal`
`22:16.24`	`seebs`	`I can make that be the default; "/say \10". I like that.`
`22:16.53`	`seebs`	`It won't work for cases where the message is, say "/emote makes a noise like a squeak toy."`
`22:17.03`	`seebs`	`Oh, wait. DOH! I could just put the \10 at the very end of the message.`
`22:17.08`	`Guillotine`	`ya`
`22:17.17`	`Scre3m`	`i'm using ag_unitframs as a priest, i cant figure out how to show pets`
`22:17.24`	`Shadowed`	`why would you heal pets!`
`22:17.40`	`Scre3m`	`normally i don't, but i'm grouped with a friend :)`
`22:17.41`	`Guillotine`	`to get to the top of the healing meter out of combat of course`
`22:18.32`	`clad\|away`	`use the default ui imo =)`
`22:19.33`	`Scre3m`	`the default UI is unplayable as a priest`
`22:19.41`	`Scre3m`	`sucks the fun right out of the game`
`22:19.47`	`Guillotine`	`how so? I find it fine with a healing druid`
`22:19.50`	`Scre3m`	`yer insane`
`22:19.55`	`Guillotine`	`and a priest, but my priest is shadow`
`22:20.14`	`Shadowed`	`default UI, custom raid frames i'm set`
`22:20.25`	`Scre3m`	`well, i mean unit frams lol`
`22:20.30`	`Scre3m`	`amen to praid`
`22:20.48`	`Shadowed`	`PerfectRaid author is evil`
`22:21.08`	`Scre3m`	`unitframs are part of the UI`
`22:21.13`	`Guillotine`	`well we knew that shadowed`
`22:21.14`	`clad\|away`	`this is true.`
`22:21.19`	`clad\|away`	`he's an asshole too`
`22:21.43`	`clad\|away`	`a facist extremist plotting the downfall of most of the UI community`
`22:21.44`	`Guillotine`	`and stuck up. wtf is with "PerfectRaid" why not "SlightlyAboveAverageRaid"?`
`22:21.55`	`clad\|away`	`it came from perfecttooltip`
`22:21.59`	`Scre3m`	`because it is perfect`
`22:22.01`	`clad\|away`	`which was so named because it was absolutely perfect for mne.`
`22:22.03`	`Shadowed`	`so somebody can make PerfecterRaid Guillotine`
`22:22.04`	`clad\|away`	`i want to rename it.`
`22:22.09`	`clad\|away`	`seriously`
`22:22.12`	`clad\|away`	`anyone have any good ideas?`
`22:22.17`	`Shadowed`	`CladFrames`
`22:22.18`	`Guillotine`	`"MediocreRaid"`
`22:22.24`	`clad\|away`	`no.. seriously`
`22:22.31`	`Scre3m`	`AbsolutelyPerfectRaid`
`22:22.44`	`clad\|away`	`IM SRS PPL`
`22:22.49`	`bleetah`	`MildlyDecentRaidCeptForTheAnnoyingBits`
`22:22.51`	`Scre3m`	`so am i`
`22:22.55`	`axxo`	`RaidList`
`22:22.58`	`bleetah`	`'coz someone always finds fault with something`
`22:23.03`	`Shadowed`	`I'm serious to clad!`
`22:23.04`	`Tain`	`IMORaid`
`22:23.06`	`Shadowed`	`CladFrames is perfect`
`22:23.15`	`Guillotine`	`or you can make it simple. "Raid"`
`22:23.22`	`clad\|away`	`Shadowed: You're serious to me? That means yoou could potentially be not serious to other people/`
`22:23.25`	`clad\|away`	`I want something like Clique`
`22:23.29`	`clad\|away`	`a simple name`
`22:23.31`	`Shadowed`	`er, remove the "to"`
`22:23.34`	`axxo`	`RListy`
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`22:23.42`	`Guillotine`	`"Rayde"`
`22:23.47`	`clad\|away`	`Raiden`
`22:23.48`	`clad\|away`	`lol`
`22:23.56`	`axxo`	`tbh, perfectraid is well know by now, and has a rep`
`22:23.58`	`axxo`	`don't lose it :)`
`22:23.59`	`clad\|away`	`SHAO KAHN!`
`22:24.04`	`seebs`	`Rayed. Heh.`
`22:24.06`	`Tain`	`Finish Him!`
`22:24.11`	`Scre3m`	`who is the ag_unitFrames author?`
`22:24.14`	`Guillotine`	`"ZomgLazursPewPewRaid"`
`22:24.16`	`clad\|away`	`i'lm going to call it Fatality`
`22:24.21`	`clad\|away`	`Scre3m: ag, oddly enough`
`22:24.22`	`clad\|away`	`and miles.`
`22:24.23`	`Guillotine`	`Scre3m: ag' :P`
`22:24.29`	`clad\|away`	`"Brutality"`
`22:24.36`	`seebs`	`Maybe ChristopherLambertsWorstRoleEver.`
`22:24.39`	`Scre3m`	`ag, got a minute?`
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`22:29.11`	`Guillotine`	`hey clad, my birthday is in 5 days. I want a working PRaid for my birthday. Get to it!`
`22:29.17`	`clad\|away`	`sorry`
`22:29.24`	`clad\|away`	`if your birthday was the same day as mine, you MIGHT get your wish`
`22:29.38`	`Guillotine`	`whats your birthday, december 9th?`
`22:29.42`	`clad\|away`	`nope`
`22:29.54`	`clad\|away`	`thats as CLOSE to a=n eta i'll give too`
`22:30.35`	`clad\|away`	`hahah`
`22:30.36`	`Guillotine`	`omg! you just said PRaid will be out in a week! I'm going to go post the news on all the forums!`
`22:30.50`	`clad\|away`	`thats a bunch of google results for my birthday`
`22:30.51`	`clad\|away`	`heh`
`22:30.56`	`clad\|away`	`Guillotine: when my Bday?`
`22:31.26`	`Guillotine`	`I have no idea`
`22:32.06`	`Guillotine`	`ah, wow, its actually a week`
`22:32.07`	`Guillotine`	`o.O`
`22:32.11`	`Guillotine`	`I just pulled that out of the top of my head`
`22:32.18`	`clad\|away`	`huh?`
`22:32.38`	`Guillotine`	`when I said you said it would come out in a week. I just chose that randomly. didn't know it was your birthday in a week`
`22:32.45`	`clad\|away`	`my birthday is in a week?`
`22:32.47`	`clad\|away`	`since when?`
`22:33.08`	`Tain`	`Since you were born, silly.`
`22:33.37`	`clad\|away`	`hrmn`
`22:34.00`	`Guillotine`	`clad: thats what google said. is it wrong?`
`22:34.12`	`clad\|away`	`O.o`
`22:34.25`	`clad\|away`	`wow`
`22:34.28`	`clad\|away`	`curse gaming sucks balls man`
`22:34.36`	`clad\|away`	`ll`
`22:34.41`	`clad\|away`	`its sad you can find it under this name`
`22:34.45`	`clad\|away`	`but not my real uid`
`22:35.09`	`Maldivia`	`hmm....`
`22:35.13`	`Guillotine`	`you're the one that chose the "Show my Birthday" option`
`22:35.20`	`clad\|away`	`lol`
`22:35.25`	`[Cu]Werik`	`I love you too :)`
`22:35.29`	`clad\|away`	`=)`
`22:35.47`	`clad\|away`	`ah well`
`22:35.50`	`clad\|away`	`well`
`22:35.56`	`clad\|away`	`the point is, i'm taking next fridya, and next monday off`
`22:36.00`	`clad\|away`	`so i MAY get some work done`
`22:36.02`	`clad\|away`	`or i may relaqx`
`22:36.13`	`Guillotine`	`you're taking it off from other stuff to work on PRaid, right?`
`22:36.14`	`Guillotine`	`right?`
`22:36.21`	`clad\|away`	`actually no, i'm just taking it off`
`22:36.24`	`clad\|away`	`i have vacation to burn`
`22:36.32`	`clad\|away`	`but i dont intend to spend that timne on praid`
`22:36.34`	`clad\|away`	`and i have other shit to do`
`22:36.42`	`clad\|away`	`btust the absolute earliest i'd have anything`
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`22:43.15`	`Maldivia`	`anyone have an idea, why only the first unit is shown on my SecureRaidGroupHeaderTemplate, if I log in while in combat?`
`22:43.56`	`Guillotine`	`if you log in while in combat, none of it should be shown until you leave combat`
`22:44.33`	`abug`	`say I have function(...) <whatever> end`
`22:44.49`	`Tem`	`if you log in while in combat, the combat lockdown doesn't start until after PEW fies`
`22:44.51`	`Tem`	`fires*`
`22:44.58`	`abug`	`would I do local arg = {...}; to get it like the old way?`
`22:45.02`	`Tem`	`that gives your mods PLENTY time to set things up`
`22:45.24`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: yes, and my addon sets everything up, before PEW`
`22:45.33`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`cry I want the days of no queue back :( stupid TBC/2.0`
`22:45.36`	`Tem`	`abug, yes, that would work, but it's HIGHLY unrecommended`
`22:45.45`	`abug`	`what's recommended?`
`22:45.49`	`Tem`	`using ...`
`22:46.01`	`abug`	`... makes my eyes hurt`
`22:46.07`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: but still, only the first unit is shown, the rest are there - I can query with GetAttribute("child2") etc, GetPoint returns they are anchored, IsShown return true, but they are not there`
`22:46.38`	`Tem`	`that's... odd`
`22:46.42`	`Maldivia`	`extremely`
`22:47.00`	`Tem`	`stick something in your config function that spits debug text`
`22:47.05`	`Tem`	`so you can see that's it's getting run`
`22:47.05`	`Scre3m`	`anyone here use ag_unitframes?`
`22:47.13`	`Tem`	`I do`
`22:47.18`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: I did, and they are called`
`22:47.18`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`I'm using that rewritten x-perl`
`22:47.42`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, weird`
`22:47.53`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`but I can't work on recreating my ui on live thanks to the 300 person Q on my server`
`22:47.57`	`Tem`	`is something tainting the raid header's code?`
`22:48.40`	`Maldivia`	`if I /reload out of combat, they appear`
`22:49.03`	`Maldivia`	`similar, raid headers, that are not visible on PEW, I can show later (when out of combat), and all units are shown`
`22:49.12`	`Tem`	`ok, so lemme get this straight`
`22:49.37`	`Tem`	`you create a raid header and set it up properly before or during PEW`
`22:49.47`	`Maldivia`	`I set them up during ADDON_LOADED`
`22:49.52`	`Tem`	`same difference`
`22:49.58`	`Maldivia`	`yeah`
`22:50.05`	`Tem`	`the raid header successfully shows the FIRST unit`
`22:50.11`	`Tem`	`but it does create the others`
`22:50.16`	`Tem`	`(and configure them)`
`22:50.20`	`Maldivia`	`yep, showing child1, and create the rest of them aswell,`
`22:50.22`	`Maldivia`	`but they are not shown`
`22:50.24`	`seebs`	`Woot! I made it past 300 downloads. <-- this is a lot for me.`
`22:50.36`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, getting Child2`
`22:50.37`	`Maldivia`	`and child2..childn are correctly anchored (according to GetPoint)`
`22:50.45`	`Tem`	`does it have a rect?`
`22:50.46`	`Guillotine`	`you downloaded 300 files or your addon was downloaded 300 tmes?`
`22:50.55`	`Tem`	`check GetWidth() and GetHeight`
`22:51.00`	`Maldivia`	`ohh... hmm...`
`22:51.09`	`Maldivia`	`I need to check that`
`22:51.26`	`Maldivia`	`let me find a mob I can poly, and reload :)`
`22:51.31`	`seebs`	`My addon has been downloaded 300 times.`
`22:51.44`	`seebs`	`Given that I was struggling with "how do I make a window in WoW" on Wednesday, that's something.`
`22:52.41`	`Guillotine`	`hint: make an addon off of a fad. I made my leeroy addon (was my second addon ever. and completely useless) and it got 20k o.O. Unfortunately I continue getting messages asking me to update it though :/`
`22:52.52`	`seebs`	`Hee.`
`22:53.05`	`seebs`	`Yeah, but I just want this one because I want it for my own use.`
`22:53.37`	`seebs`	`See, the real secret is that the only real point of downloads is to get people to send feature requests and bug reports.`
`22:53.50`	`Guillotine`	`and bragging rights`
`22:53.54`	`Guillotine`	`can't forget bragging rights`
`22:54.20`	`Thrae`	`Hmmm, getting License Points in FFXII is monotonous =/`
`22:54.31`	`seebs`	`Well, given that my name will probably be cursed by a lot of people for producing this, I think maybe I'd better forget bragging rights.`
`22:54.42`	`seebs`	`The "Player Hit" event is going to make people keen softly.`
`22:55.14`	`seebs`	`{ "crit", "%d%d%d", ... } => { "/e makes a noise like a squeak toy." } -- every gnome's dream.`
`22:55.16`	`Guillotine`	`does it happen every time the player is hit or just random?`
`22:55.20`	`Maldivia`	`wow... weird...`
`22:55.24`	`seebs`	`The player sets a percentage.`
`22:55.36`	`seebs`	`And a pattern to match, such as "%d%d%d" for 3-digit hits.`
`22:55.42`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, what's the verdict?`
`22:56.08`	`TonyD`	`bah still random disconnects`
`22:56.08`	`Maldivia`	`GetWidth() => 0, GetHeight() => 0`
`22:56.09`	`seebs`	`Oh, hey. There's a feature; I should make the percentage field only let you enter valid percentages or something.`
`22:56.24`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: but sometimes GetAttribute("child2") returns nil, sometimes the real unit frame`
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`22:58.09`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, ask Esamynn when he gets back`
`22:58.19`	`Tem`	`I get lost in the raid headers code very quickly`
`22:58.28`	`Tem`	`s/rs/r's/`
`22:58.46`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`hmm, starting to wonder fi the code on live is missing some stuff from Beta in the API`
`22:58.55`	`Maldivia`	`it is`
`22:59.13`	`Tem`	`it definately is`
`23:00.05`	`Maldivia`	`hmm, perhaps the "initial-width/height" attribute will help`
`23:00.14`	`Tem`	`you weren't using them?`
`23:00.22`	`Tem`	`how were you setting the width before?`
`23:00.27`	`Maldivia`	`SetWidth`
`23:00.30`	`Tem`	`...`
`23:00.35`	`Tem`	`well duh`
`23:00.47`	`Maldivia`	`well, it's not in combat lockdown at the moment, so...`
`23:00.56`	`wereHamster`	`how diffucult would it be to find out whether the WoW Mac client uses vertext buffer objects?`
`23:00.56`	`Tem`	`but it is`
`23:00.59`	`Maldivia`	`and apparently, it's working for the first child, so why not the rest`
`23:01.11`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, because raids are weird`
`23:01.17`	`Maldivia`	`no shit!`
`23:01.18`	`Tem`	`and only yourself really exists at PEW`
`23:01.34`	`Tem`	`it doesn't know much about anyone else until just after...`
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`23:02.32`	`Maldivia`	`but, the childen are passed to the "creator function" with newChild:AllowAttributeChanges();`
`23:03.05`	`Tem`	`that only allows ATTRIBUTE changes`
`23:03.18`	`Tem`	`it doesn't allow you to call the other protected frame functions`
`23:03.30`	`Maldivia`	`yeah... still find it funny, that the first child is created correctly`
`23:03.44`	`Tem`	`the first child is you, right?`
`23:03.45`	`Maldivia`	`and that all the sub-frames in the frame, are created correctly, with setwidth/height calles`
`23:03.47`	`Maldivia`	`no`
`23:04.23`	`Tem`	`sub-frames are different`
`23:04.25`	`Tem`	`they aren't protected`
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`23:05.27`	`jaxdahl`	`Cairenn\|afk, the warning to not use 2.0 addons is still up`
`23:05.35`	`Maldivia`	`hmm... guess I'll rewrite all my code, to use initial-width/height`
`23:05.54`	`phreaky`	`Is there an addon to make a grid on the screen to position bars/frames etc straight? =)`
`23:06.36`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: hmm, anyway - thanks :)`
`23:06.42`	`Corrodias`	`jaxdahl: what's this about a warning not to use 2.0 addons?`
`23:07.23`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, you only need to do that for the 'main' unit frame`
`23:07.31`	`Tem`	`the rest of it you can build and configure as you like`
`23:07.39`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: well, I need it for all my secure sub-frames aswell`
`23:07.49`	`Tem`	`secure sub-frames?`
`23:07.55`	`Tem`	`it won't configure sub-frames`
`23:08.00`	`Maldivia`	`yes it will`
`23:08.13`	`Maldivia`	`it-- call this function recursively for the current frame's children`
`23:08.13`	`Maldivia`	`ApplyUnitButtonConfiguration(frame:GetChildren());`
`23:08.24`	`jaxdahl`	`Corrodias, example: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5819-RatingBuster.html`
`23:08.44`	`Corrodias`	`oh. i thought that was removed.`
`23:09.08`	`jaxdahl`	`it seems to be removed on some, and not on others`
`23:10.29`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, hrm`
`23:10.43`	`Tem`	`What do you need secure children for?`
`23:10.53`	`Tem`	`group buttons type things?`
`23:10.56`	`Maldivia`	`sub-unitframes :)`
`23:11.09`	`Tem`	`oh`
`23:11.19`	`Tem`	`<unit>target?`
`23:11.22`	`Maldivia`	`for instance`
`23:11.22`	`Tem`	`<unit>pet?`
`23:11.33`	`Maldivia`	`currently just target`
`23:11.53`	`Maldivia`	`btw, is it possible to have a state header change itself ?`
`23:12.05`	`Tem`	`change itself how?`
`23:12.21`	`Maldivia`	`change width/height/scale on itself`
`23:14.06`	`jaxdahl`	`ooh, wowace.com/files/ looks very nice now`
`23:14.45`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: for instance, I'd like to change the size/scale on state-unitwatch-true/false`
`23:14.51`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, yes, it's possible`
`23:15.01`	`Tem`	`check the comments in SecureStateHeader`
`23:15.09`	`Maldivia`	`how to get it to apply to itself, I can only see it change it's children`
`23:15.52`	`Tem`	`oh, heh`
`23:15.57`	`Tem`	`you may not be able to`
`23:16.05`	`Tem`	`what you can do is have a parent header do it for you`
`23:18.28`	`Maldivia`	`yeah, the problem is, I'll have to have a stateheader control a stateheader control a unitframe`
`23:18.34`	`Maldivia`	`it's kind of "ugly"`
`23:18.57`	`Maldivia`	`ohh wait... no I dont...`
`23:19.00`	`Tem`	`do you need a header for every unit?`
`23:19.10`	`TonyD`	`anyone wanna update DUF?`
`23:19.15`	`Tem`	`lol`
`23:19.16`	`Tem`	`no`
`23:19.23`	`TonyD`	`i need my Discord Unit Frames`
`23:19.24`	`Thunder_Child`	`wait for DUB`
`23:19.41`	`TonyD`	`dub won't inlcude unit frames or buttons at first`
`23:19.56`	`TonyD`	`just dfm, and dart`
`23:20.13`	`TonyD`	`and it'll prolly be out sometime next year`
`23:22.14`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`my main issue on Live is I can't use druidBar anymore`
`23:22.28`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`it's working on Beta but the same version isn't working on Live`
`23:24.25`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: unless you have an idea, how to implement a pet list, without the use of state headers, to shrink nonexisting pets`
`23:24.33`	`jaxdahl`	`curse gaming is still runnign slow`
`23:24.48`	`Guillotine`	`we know :(`
`23:24.54`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, ew, that does kinda suck`
`23:24.57`	`Guillotine`	`still heavy load`
`23:25.03`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, can't you just hide em?`
`23:25.05`	`Guillotine`	`people who didn't have time to update addons until weekend are coming now`
`23:25.44`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: In theory, yes - but consider 40 units, and 35 holes...`
`23:25.44`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: will look like shit`
`23:25.53`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: since I can't control how they are anchored`
`23:26.14`	`Tem`	`Yes, that would be a problem`
`23:26.26`	`Tem`	`But, in my mind, that would be ugly even if it worked`
`23:27.29`	`Tem`	`seems to me that you shouldn't increase the ammount of space that a unit takes up because it has a pet`
`23:27.31`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: my plan is, have a raidheader list all members, have it create a stateheader, that hides the unitframe, and shrinks it to 0.1 height, that way, there wont be a hole, it will look like the one below and above is anchored together`
`23:27.52`	`Tem`	`yeah, that'll work`
`23:28.00`	`Tem`	`but you need a header for each pet`
`23:28.04`	`Maldivia`	`yeah`
`23:28.22`	`jaxdahl`	`yeah, Guillotine, trying to get my favorites on there straightened otu`
`23:28.26`	`jaxdahl`	`so i can get updates more easily`
`23:28.44`	`jaxdahl`	`hmm, perl classic updated there`
`23:28.47`	`jaxdahl`	`and not on wowi`
`23:29.00`	`clad\|away`	`thats odd`
`23:29.01`	`Maldivia`	`and then the problem... the raid header anchors its children, and since I can't do cyclic parenting, I need to scale/change size of the state header`
`23:29.05`	`Tem`	`that's because only cool authors use wowi`
`23:29.12`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: Global does use wowi =)`
`23:29.14`	`cladhaire`	`that's why its odd`
`23:29.16`	`Guillotine`	`ya, due to sites not always being up and fast, you have to check on both sites to always get the most recent`
`23:29.44`	`Guillotine`	`people don't always want to wait for loading to upload so they upload it a couple days later`
`23:29.44`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, oh, you have a bigger problem`
`23:29.56`	`bleetah`	`just wondering if any of the 'outfitter' folks are here, I have a suggestion for their mod (ie, I'd like to display my lifetime PvP title when in cities, but not elsewhere)`
`23:30.04`	`jaxdahl`	`hm`
`23:30.12`	`jaxdahl`	`i guess it was updated on wowi before curse, heh`
`23:30.15`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: how so?`
`23:30.20`	`Tem`	`Maldivia, the raid header has to be the parent of the children`
`23:30.28`	`Tem`	`so you can't wedge a state header in there`
`23:30.44`	`Tem`	`unless you make each unit frame a stateheader AND a unit button`
`23:30.53`	`Maldivia`	`Tem: yeah, exactly :\|`
`23:31.01`	`Tem`	`which is hella ugly`
`23:31.06`	`Tem`	`oh wait`
`23:31.08`	`Tem`	`no no`
`23:31.10`	`Tem`	`ok, I got it`
`23:31.19`	`Maldivia`	`I would love if I could just add a unitsuffix attriute to the raid header :\|`
`23:31.35`	`Tem`	`tell the raid header to make state headers for you`
`23:31.44`	`Maldivia`	`that's what I'm doing right now`
`23:31.48`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`god, they are still using the crappy version of the talent trees also`
`23:31.52`	`Maldivia`	`and then create unitframe as children of the stateheader`
`23:31.53`	`Tem`	`oh bollucks`
`23:31.57`	`Tem`	`same problem`
`23:32.06`	`Maldivia`	`but still, I can't control the stateheaders with itself`
`23:32.09`	`Tem`	`the state header can't shrink itself`
`23:32.22`	`Tem`	`Iriel, poke?`
`23:32.49`	`Iriel`	`yes?`
`23:33.13`	`Tem`	`Is there a way to make a header change it's own size?`
`23:34.10`	`Iriel`	`Not that I recall, I didn't really imagine people using state headers as 'visible things' much`
`23:34.22`	`Iriel`	`More that they'd get attached to other frames if necessary`
`23:34.50`	`Tem`	`Okay, need one of 3 things then`
`23:34.58`	`Tem`	`1) A way for a header to change it's own size`
`23:35.04`	`Garoun\|Loupana`	`sigh, I thought itd' be fun to play live some before expansion, but the more I toy with it, the more I hate it :/`
`23:35.05`	`bleetah`	`hmm, yup, if a timed quest is the 25th in your list, you'll instantly fail.`
`23:35.09`	`bleetah`	`mt`
`23:35.21`	`Tem`	`2) A way to have a header manage a frame that it doesn't own directly through 'parenting'`
`23:35.38`	`Tem`	`3) an idea on this problem?`
`23:35.40`	`Iriel`	`What's the situation you're trying to code for?`
`23:35.50`	`cladhaire`	`isn't it just adding pets to the current raid headers?`
`23:36.07`	`Tem`	`Mal has a raid header that creates state headers for each child`
`23:36.28`	`Maldivia`	`Iriel: Remember the pet list, we talked about a month ago ?`
`23:36.40`	`Iriel`	`Can you use a state header and then a pair of child frames, one anchored to the other?`
`23:36.41`	`Tem`	`the Size of the state header needs to change based on the existance of that unit's pet`
`23:36.46`	`Iriel`	`The state header being zero height`
`23:37.02`	`Mike-N-Go`	`My little AMd addon has been downloaded 409 times, thanks for all your help with it.`
`23:37.32`	`Maldivia`	`Iriel: the problem is, the raid header, anchors its children directly`
`23:37.58`	`Iriel`	`Ah, I see`
`23:38.15`	`Tem`	`and it also wants to own their parent`
`23:38.30`	`Tem`	`so you can't have a state header manage them independenly of the raid header`
`23:38.45`	`Iriel`	`Code up a suggested implementation for self-size-management for the header then 8-)`
`23:38.55`	`seebs`	`Hey, I have a lua question. If I do string.match(text, pattern), the return is either "the captures from pattern" or "the whole match".`
`23:38.55`	`Tem`	`that's easy`
`23:39.07`	`seebs`	`If it's the former, I assume it's a table, but then how do I tell whether I got a table or a string?`
`23:39.09`	`Tem`	`(I hope ><)`
`23:39.18`	`Iriel`	`type(variable) == "table"`
`23:39.23`	`cladhaire`	`seebs: its not a table, its a series of arguments.`
`23:39.25`	`cladhaire`	`err returns`
`23:39.39`	`cladhaire`	`i.e. if you have two captures, the function returns two values`
`23:40.05`	`seebs`	`Oh! So I should do "for x in string.match(text, pattern)" and I'll get either the series of whole matches, or the series of series of captures, depending on whether pattern had captures or not?`
`23:40.12`	`Tem`	`no`
`23:40.14`	`Tem`	`christ no`
`23:40.16`	`seebs`	`Maybe I'm dumb.`
`23:40.16`	`cladhaire`	`no, it doens't work like that`
`23:40.26`	`Tem`	`I keep seeing that everywhere`
`23:40.27`	`cladhaire`	`lets start simple =)`
`23:40.30`	`cladhaire`	`what are you attempting to do?`
`23:40.38`	`Tem`	`I want to go kick the guy who put that somewhere in the balls`
`23:40.39`	`cladhaire`	`what string, pattern?`
`23:41.01`	`Tem`	`seebs, you're not dumb`
`23:41.04`	`seebs`	`I am allowing users to provide patterns. I want to have a table which contains either the whole match (if there were no captures) or the captures in order.`
`23:41.22`	`cladhaire`	`then you can put the returns into a table`
`23:41.22`	`seebs`	`Is there in general any way to put the returns from a function with multiple returns into a table?`
`23:41.30`	`cladhaire`	`i.e. local t = {string.match(string, pattern)}`
`23:41.31`	`abug`	`if we're stoning seebs can I join in?`
`23:41.35`	`Tem`	`yes, but please don't`
`23:41.38`	`seebs`	`So, X = { string.match(string, pattern) }?`
`23:41.45`	`cladhaire`	`yes, but there's normally a much better way`
`23:41.48`	`cladhaire`	`MUCh better =)`
`23:41.49`	`seebs`	`Ahh! I omitted the {}.`
`23:41.52`	`Tain`	`A witch! A witch! Burn him!`
`23:41.55`	`seebs`	`What is the much better way?`
`23:41.55`	`Tem`	`MUCH MUCH better`
`23:42.02`	`cladhaire`	`depends, on the end-goal`
`23:42.03`	`Maldivia`	`Iriel: in the SecureStateHeader.lua, on line 633, add a line above it, where it's just self instead of self:GetChildren() as paramter?`
`23:42.07`	`cladhaire`	`you're still talking implementatino`
`23:42.09`	`cladhaire`	`not end-result`
`23:42.14`	`cladhaire`	`don't tell me how you want me to code it, tell me what you want to do =)`
`23:42.17`	`seebs`	`There's a lot of junk in my addon where I'm trying to do things like "put everything from these two tables together into a single table".`
`23:42.18`	`seebs`	`Heh.`
`23:42.24`	`Iriel`	`I wouldn't want to use the same attribute names`
`23:42.34`	`Iriel`	`since you can make state headers children of other state headers`
`23:42.43`	`Iriel`	`I've tried to keep them from conflicting`
`23:42.49`	`seebs`	`Well, in this case, I have a point early in the mod where a piece of text might be matched against a pattern, and I want people to be able to refer back to captures later.`
`23:42.49`	`Maldivia`	`yeah, ok`
`23:43.00`	`Tem`	`same code, "headwidth" "headheight" "headscale"`
`23:43.20`	`Iriel`	`though an attribute that says 'self-manage my size' would be alright, I suppose.. though slightly inconsistent`
`23:43.22`	`seebs`	`As an example, if you were checking for Player Hit events, "(.+) hits you" would yield a single capture, that being the name of the mob that hit you.`
`23:43.30`	`cladhaire`	`correct`
`23:43.38`	`cladhaire`	`but you don't need to STORE those, you just need to respond to them as they happen, correct?`
`23:44.56`	`seebs`	`Well, the usage is about 500 lines away. Long after this, I search through strings for ${1} and ${2} and I want to insert the captures there.`
`23:45.18`	`cladhaire`	`okay, so this isnt' a realtime parsing?`
`23:45.23`	`bleetah`	`quick question: wowwiki.com indicates GetChannelList is deprecated, but I can't seem to find a replacement function. Any comments appreciated.`
`23:45.54`	`seebs`	`Well, it's realtime. It's just that the code doing the match is just confirming whether or not there's a match; if there is, then other code searches around until it finds the string to emit in response to the match.`
`23:46.26`	`seebs`	`And then, during that, I want to sub in the captures.`
`23:46.41`	`cladhaire`	`so why not store the matches in local variables?`
`23:46.46`	`seebs`	`BTW, I have another example of captures and code and such; I want to split / commands into arguments. I ought to be able to do something like "string.gmatch(cmd, "[^ ]+")", no?`
`23:46.52`	`cladhaire`	`its by far (especially for real time parsing) the best way to do it`
`23:46.59`	`seebs`	`Hmm.`
`23:47.06`	`cladhaire`	`otherwise you'll be creating crazy amounts of tables/entries.`
`23:47.41`	`seebs`	`Huh. Well, that brings me back to one of my mysteries: Sometimes, if I declare a variable local to my addon, some of the UI widget callbacks can't see it.`
`23:48.09`	`seebs`	`But in any event, my plan was just to have a single table, AnnoyRP_Matches, which is set when I'm matching things, and used when I emit responses (if any).`
`23:48.28`	`seebs`	`Lua is still a little weird to me. :)`
`23:49.29`	`cladhaire`	`well table creation, and table value creation isn't free`
`23:49.39`	`cladhaire`	`and combat log parsing is pretty heavy as it is`
`23:49.42`	`seebs`	`Ah, !#@$@$. For non-obvious reasons, my savedvariables are getting destroyed.`
`23:49.47`	`cladhaire`	`thats why we're trying to avoid that for you :P`
`23:50.39`	`seebs`	`WTF. This is very disturbing; my SavedVariables are getting nuked. Like, file completely gone.`
`23:50.49`	`seebs`	`That worries me some, because it wasn't happening previously.`
`23:50.54`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`23:50.59`	`Maldivia`	`you nil'ed your var?`
`23:51.33`	`Guillotine`	`seebs: I've had that happen a couple times too. Something goes wrong when logging in and saved variables goes kaput`
`23:51.36`	`Guillotine`	`I keep a backup now`
`23:51.59`	`seebs`	`Well, the thing is, there's not even a file listing the values and calling them nil; just nothing.`
`23:52.08`	`seebs`	`File actually deleted.`
`23:53.12`	`Guillotine`	`did your WoW crash? 2/3 times, thats when it happens to me`
`23:53.32`	`seebs`	`Ahh, dammit.`
`23:53.34`	`seebs`	`!@#$!@#$.`
`23:53.43`	`seebs`	`Newline got inserted in TOC and I didn't catch it.`
`23:53.51`	`Tem`	`Iriel, stick this at line 603`
`23:53.53`	`Tem`	`http://wowi.pastey.net/3362`
`23:55.06`	`seebs`	`Apparently, the ToC having variable names on a line by themselves didn't raise any flags.`
`23:56.15`	`Mike-N-Go`	`on wowinterface.com what do the stars by some addons mean?`
`23:57.27`	`bleetah`	`gah, it's the wowwiki template that's deprecated, not the command`
`23:57.29`	`bleetah`	`d'oh`

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