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| 00:19.56 | WrK|CuZZz | Good night. |
| 00:20.17 | Cairenn | night WrK|CuZZz |
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| 00:33.34 | jaxdahl | so with ctscreens, you can upload as many pics as you like, so long as you have a max of 5 at any time (for free accts) ? |
| 00:34.43 | Guillotine | I guess. You can also upload stuff to http://www.cursebeta.com/en/gallery/submit/ in unlimited, but I don't think you can do as large pictures |
| 00:34.44 | Guillotine | but I dunno |
| 00:34.55 | jaxdahl | just curious. |
| 00:35.14 | jaxdahl | i have my own site that i can upload however many pics i like ;) |
| 00:35.29 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 00:35.58 | jaxdahl | videos too |
| 00:36.06 | jaxdahl | 5.5 gigs in sept of 2006 |
| 00:36.15 | jaxdahl | only 450mb for november |
| 00:36.31 | jaxdahl | about a gig in june just for naxx pics |
| 00:36.35 | jaxdahl | er, may |
| 00:38.25 | Guillotine | anybody else notice that a LOT of mods aren't loading in the newest patch of TBC? |
| 00:38.34 | jaxdahl | TOC changed? |
| 00:38.39 | ckknight | no, Guillotine |
| 00:38.43 | ckknight | mine work |
| 00:39.11 | Kaso | i noticed some wierdness todo with load order in the newest beta |
| 00:39.25 | iamhef | @Kaso how so? |
| 00:39.30 | ckknight | load order? |
| 00:39.52 | Kaso | it was eCastingBar, it's localization wasnt loaded properly OnLoad |
| 00:39.55 | Guillotine | well, Khaos isn't working, Chronometer isn't working, a couple others aren't working either |
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| 00:40.02 | Guillotine | right, and eCastingBar isn't working |
| 00:40.14 | Guillotine | wasn't* |
| 00:40.16 | Guillotine | the new version does |
| 00:41.25 | Kaso | i never really investegated what was going on |
| 00:41.34 | Kaso | i just knew something was up |
| 00:42.13 | Guillotine | if nobody knows, I'll see if I can figure it out. right now though, it seems that its the addons with libraries that aren't working |
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| 00:48.14 | ckknight | Ace2 stuff works for me, Guillotine |
| 00:48.18 | ckknight | and those use libraries |
| 00:48.27 | Guillotine | haha. figured out the problem with chronometer |
| 00:48.36 | Guillotine | he forgot to put in an entire folder of files |
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| 01:12.10 | Maldivia | hmm, any words on the shift-modifier? |
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| 01:22.45 | Guillotine | Slouken confirmed that he saw it in the thread, nothing since then |
| 01:24.07 | Maldivia | ok, it's really funky how it works |
| 01:25.25 | ckknight | you mean alt-shift-5? |
| 01:25.39 | ckknight | Slouken said he'd fix it |
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| 01:27.07 | Guillotine | no, shift isn't working at all as a modifier now |
| 01:33.43 | Maldivia | lol |
| 01:33.45 | Maldivia | found the problem |
| 01:34.17 | Maldivia | ActionButtons are initializes with: this:SetAttribute("shift-type*", ATTRIBUTE_NOOP); |
| 01:34.32 | Maldivia | so if holding down shift alone, they are set to do nothing |
| 01:34.58 | Kaso | noop makes me smile :> |
| 01:35.10 | Maldivia | No Op :) |
| 01:35.35 | Kaso | thats no fun! you should say it like poop |
| 01:36.08 | Maldivia | /run ActionButton1:SetAttribute("shift-type*", nil); |
| 01:36.21 | Maldivia | and vupti, I could use shift as modifier :) |
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| 01:41.51 | Kaso | Who's Sarozz |
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| 01:42.47 | Kaso | In CastSpell on EU |
| 01:44.29 | Maldivia | dunno |
| 01:44.45 | Kaso | first time ive seen anyone in castspell around the world |
| 01:44.53 | Kaso | you guys keep to yourself too much |
| 01:45.22 | Maldivia | I usually sit around in Shat |
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| 01:45.39 | Maldivia | ehh... Shattrath City, that is |
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| 01:45.52 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:45.58 | Kaso | haha |
| 01:46.03 | iamhef | lmao |
| 01:46.28 | iamhef | that needs to be a bash.org quote |
| 01:46.32 | Cairenn | elementary school humour ftw |
| 01:48.17 | Tuller | shatner city? |
| 01:48.23 | Maldivia | hmm, should suggest to change the locked actionbar behavior, instead of shift-clicking, then shift-dragging |
| 01:48.40 | Maldivia | that would remove the shift-self-cast restriction, and the modifier:shift problem |
| 01:52.01 | SB1-Laptop | Hmm, do the news macros differentiate from NPCs and PCs? |
| 01:52.16 | SB1-Laptop | Or rather, can they? |
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| 01:57.30 | Maldivia | SB1: No |
| 01:59.52 | SB1-Laptop | :/ |
| 02:00.59 | SB1-Laptop | I don't want to cast max rank polymorph on PvP targets anymore :P |
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| 02:01.41 | tierrie | much busier here cei |
| 02:02.07 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 02:02.58 | tierrie | cairenn, I have seen your name before :P maybe in TBC |
| 02:03.42 | Cairenn | amongst other places |
| 02:05.22 | ckknight | Caeryn, don't impersonate Cairenn |
| 02:05.35 | ckknight | there's only so much love we can spread around |
| 02:05.38 | ckknight | and we'll get confused |
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| 02:22.31 | SP|Sorren | anyone from curse around? |
| 02:23.58 | Caeryn | lol I've used Caeryn forever ;) |
| 02:24.04 | tierrie | but np |
| 02:25.11 | Cairenn | use whichever name you are registered as on the various mod sites, so folks know you are you |
| 02:25.22 | Caeryn | ok :) |
| 02:25.38 | Cairenn | SP|Sorren: WrK|CuZZz is sleeping, guillotine doesn't seem to be around |
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| 02:32.38 | Cairenn | feel free to upload the 2.0 version to our special section if you want: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat89.html |
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| 02:38.45 | Cairenn | mind you, given that it's going live tuesday, may want to just update the live version when it's transfered |
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| 02:39.49 | Caeryn | if I get access by then I'll do that |
| 02:39.55 | Caeryn | i haven't really tested it in beta, just TBC |
| 02:40.06 | Caeryn | but i think its safe to assume its ok if it works in TBC |
| 02:41.16 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 02:41.33 | Cairenn | insofar as mods are concerned, 2.0 == TBC |
| 02:41.40 | Cairenn | at this point |
| 02:42.01 | MentalPower | indeed |
| 02:42.09 | Cairenn | that *may* change |
| 02:42.25 | MentalPower | at least till the next Beta push |
| 02:42.38 | Cairenn | but for right now, the changes we are worried about go live tuesday |
| 02:43.28 | Cairenn | TBC will be back to being a mini-patch, when discussing mods |
| 02:46.01 | Caeryn | i uploaded it to the beta special section |
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| 02:46.50 | Cairenn | it's already been approved |
| 02:56.43 | Kaso | wow |
| 02:56.57 | Kaso | If a BoP recipe drops you can only roll if you have that profession |
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| 02:57.39 | SP|Sorren | sounds good to me |
| 02:57.46 | Kaso | indeed |
| 03:02.03 | SP|Sorren | anyone knwo how the devtools event trace works? |
| 03:02.05 | Maldivia | hmm, are there anyway to securely hook script blocks ? |
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| 03:03.49 | Inside | Hmmm. |
| 03:04.38 | Caeryn | maybe I'll Kaso: you can only roll need on it or if you can only roll on it period? |
| 03:05.00 | Kaso | the roll box didnt show up for anyone but the enchanter in our group |
| 03:05.48 | Maldivia | what item? |
| 03:06.06 | Kaso | sec |
| 03:06.29 | Kaso | Enchant Bracer - Fortitude |
| 03:06.41 | Caeryn | what does the D stand for in SCTD? |
| 03:06.47 | Caeryn | scrolling combat text.... something |
| 03:06.57 | Maldivia | damage |
| 03:07.21 | Inside | daaarrgh.. beat |
| 03:09.04 | Maldivia | scrolling combat text: daaarrgh.. beat -- naah, doesn't sound right :) |
| 03:09.32 | Inside | That's the sound I make when another big game making company socks me in the eye and makes me buy another game. |
| 03:09.38 | Inside | I'm looking at you, abusive spouse EA ;_; |
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| 03:10.21 | Inside | Hmmm. |
| 03:11.24 | Iriel | What did EA make you buy this time? |
| 03:11.40 | Inside | 2142 |
| 03:11.47 | Iriel | Ah, i've been enjoying that |
| 03:12.04 | Cairenn | hey Iriel :) |
| 03:12.11 | Iriel | (In small doses) |
| 03:12.14 | Inside | Shitty game. I feel like I've been tied down to the legs of a table and bleep-ed with a bleeping-ly bleep bleep black bleep. |
| 03:12.14 | Iriel | Hi Cairenn |
| 03:12.29 | Iriel | Inside: Really? How is it letting you down? |
| 03:12.31 | Cairenn | lol Inside |
| 03:12.50 | Inside | I've played BF2 and BF2:SF |
| 03:13.04 | Inside | and you know what BF2142 is? It's um... "BF2".."142" |
| 03:13.18 | Iriel | Cairenn: What have authors been doing for 2.0 versions of their addons? Creating a new addon for it, or just posting a new version? |
| 03:13.42 | Cairenn | ? |
| 03:13.42 | Iriel | Inside: Indeed it is, but isn't that the point? I like the new kit types in 2142 |
| 03:13.50 | Cairenn | Iriel: say again, over? |
| 03:14.05 | Iriel | Cairenn: I've updated a number of my AddOns for 2.0, I want to update wowi |
| 03:14.23 | Iriel | Cairenn: Without confusing people in the interim (before tuesday) |
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| 03:14.46 | SP|Sorren | hey Iriel |
| 03:15.13 | SP|Sorren | in the event trace window, it doesnt show an option for PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS until that event actually goes off once ;o |
| 03:15.21 | Cairenn | options: 1, upload to the beta section; 2, update the live version, making note that it is for tuesday and not to update live yet; option 3, don't update at all yet |
| 03:15.37 | Cairenn | I suppose option 4 could be to upload it as a patch or plugin to the live |
| 03:15.49 | Iriel | SP|Sorren: Yeah, I probably should let it pre-load an event list, it's not quite as polished as I'd like.. The list should be a saved variable tho. |
| 03:16.00 | Iriel | Cairenn: I like option 2, do you think users will get confused? |
| 03:16.04 | Cairenn | but this close to the push, if people can't figure out that it's for the patch, well, duh to them |
| 03:16.14 | SP|Sorren | ahh, i see. |
| 03:16.21 | Cairenn | no, you aren't the only author that's already updating for tuesday |
| 03:16.39 | Cairenn | the way I see it, this close to live push ... if you've got it ready, get it up there so you don't have to deal with it tuesday |
| 03:16.59 | Cairenn | when everyone and their dog will be hitting the sites looking for them |
| 03:17.05 | Iriel | Cairenn: Yeah, I'll be workiing tuesday, and catching up, so I dont want to be busy addon updating also. |
| 03:17.12 | Cairenn | myself, I say just update live now |
| 03:17.24 | Cairenn | just add a line to the top of the description - this is for 2.0 |
| 03:17.57 | Cairenn | don't install before 5 dec 06 |
| 03:18.18 | Iriel | (unless you're on the PTR or in TBC beta) |
| 03:18.23 | Cairenn | nod |
| 03:18.27 | Iriel | Which is one of the other reasons I'd like to update now |
| 03:18.32 | Cairenn | nod |
| 03:18.34 | Iriel | I know people like a couple of the addons |
| 03:18.44 | Cairenn | oh, one or two of them, yeah |
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| 03:19.14 | ckknight | I'm updating live on Monday |
| 03:19.22 | ckknight | and saying that it's for 2.0 |
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| 03:19.46 | ckknight | I think that'll be easier than rushing it out on Tuesday when everything is backed up and hectic |
| 03:20.02 | Cairenn | really, it's up to you guys, but like I said, if you've got it ready and given that it's this close, update it now, imo |
| 03:22.10 | Inside | You know, I sigh. |
| 03:22.10 | MentalPower | I would be updating my live upload, but I'm behind schedule |
| 03:25.10 | Thardal | i haven't started yet with updating and am gonna pull an all nighter on wednesday :D |
| 03:25.14 | Thardal | cause thats how i roll |
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| 03:26.48 | VoidRaider|afk | The best would be for the storm to stop and update/upload it few days after :P |
| 03:27.51 | VoidRaider|afk | Well, night guys :) |
| 03:28.02 | Cairenn | night VoidRaider|afk |
| 03:42.31 | SP|Sorren | hmm so after 2.0 comes out, should i move my mod to a different category? or what? |
| 03:42.37 | SP|Sorren | (right now its bc only) |
| 03:42.56 | Cairenn | SP|Sorren: you don't have a live version currently on the site? |
| 03:43.06 | SP|Sorren | not of the mod that survives |
| 03:43.45 | Cairenn | okay, let me ask it a different way ... do you have a mod *of the same name* on the site in one of the live categories already? |
| 03:43.56 | SP|Sorren | nope |
| 03:44.13 | Cairenn | then yeah, just let me know which mod (gimme a link) and which category you'd like it in |
| 03:44.36 | Cairenn | preferably *not* waiting until Tuesday to ask me to move it |
| 03:44.41 | SP|Sorren | i see. |
| 03:45.07 | Cairenn | I can and will move mods np |
| 03:45.24 | Cairenn | just, I'd really rather not be doing it during the insanity of Tuesday & Wednesday |
| 03:45.47 | SP|Sorren | aiight |
| 03:45.47 | Cairenn | so either ask me between now and then, or leave it in the 2.0 category until after the inital rush is over, please |
| 03:46.29 | SP|Sorren | i'll ask you tomorrow i think, i want to let this update sit for a while |
| 03:46.50 | Cairenn | *nod* |
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| 04:12.33 | Tem | well fuck |
| 04:12.52 | Zicon | Good morning to you too. |
| 04:12.53 | Tem | I can't say I'd ever have thought to find myself *disappointed* to see USC lose |
| 04:13.32 | Tem | now the computers have to be retarded and put Michigan in the title game for us to go to the rose bowl |
| 04:13.45 | Tem | odds are we'll go to the Sugar Bowl now |
| 04:13.52 | Tem | *eyeroll* |
| 04:15.36 | Tem | so we go from the best possible bowl game going halfway across the country to going to fucking new orleans |
| 04:15.43 | Tem | ugh |
| 04:15.48 | Tem | I can go to NO whenever I want |
| 04:20.34 | Caeryn | anyone here tried bartender3 with bartender_circle? |
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| 04:40.57 | Saeris | Anyone else having buff textures randomly swap or disappear? |
| 04:44.23 | Saeris | For example, Blessing of Wisdom was showing as Devotion Aura, even though the texture file path was correct (Interface\Icons\Spell_Holy_SealOfWisdom). Then I relogged, and the exact same buff showed with the correct texture. |
| 04:44.47 | Saeris | Other textures disappear completely, leaving only the invisible button still catching mouseover events. |
| 04:45.19 | Saeris | This is all with the default UI, mind you. |
| 04:45.41 | Cairenn | on beta or ptr? |
| 04:45.47 | Cairenn | not live, I'm presuming |
| 04:46.17 | Saeris | Sorry, forgot to clarify. Beta. |
| 04:46.31 | Cairenn | sounds like a post for slouken |
| 04:46.52 | Cairenn | if it's while running vanilla |
| 04:47.01 | jaxdahl | Saeris, what did it say on mouseover? |
| 04:47.15 | Saeris | The proper tooltip for the real buff. |
| 04:48.00 | Caeryn | was there any mods loaded? |
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| 04:48.13 | Saeris | Nope, default UI only. |
| 04:48.48 | Cairenn | I'd post it for Slouken to check |
| 04:49.16 | Saeris | The strange thing is that it seems entirely random, and I can't reproduce it reliably. One BuffButton_OnUpdate cycle, the textures are correct. The very next cycle, one of them is off. |
| 04:49.53 | Saeris | Should I post it in the 2.0 Changes thread or make a new thread? |
| 04:50.22 | Cairenn | make a separate one, imo |
| 04:51.13 | Cairenn | stick his name in the title [Slouken] Bug - blahblah |
| 04:51.22 | Saeris | Okay. |
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| 04:51.35 | Cairenn | the fact it isn't consistent won't help though |
| 04:52.59 | Cide | I saw that today too |
| 04:53.08 | Saeris | Hooray, I'm not crazy. |
| 04:53.23 | Cairenn | Cide didn't say that, Saeris |
| 04:53.25 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:53.27 | Cide | well, I thought it was a bug in my buff mod, but I guess not... |
| 04:53.30 | Thunder_Child | umm..that doesnt make you not crazy... |
| 04:53.34 | Thunder_Child | as Cairenn said |
| 04:53.35 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:56.07 | Caeryn | a screenshot would help the case too btw |
| 04:56.16 | Caeryn | or at least prove your sanity ;) |
| 04:57.12 | Thunder_Child | shhh...dont give him any hope |
| 04:57.16 | Saeris | I'll have to wait for it to happen again to do that. Silvermoon City's server on Hellfire keeps crashing and tossing me off. :P |
| 04:57.30 | jaxdahl | my guess is something to do with hidden buffs not being in the right order? |
| 04:57.31 | Cairenn | well, having Cide to back up proves the case, the sanity otoh, is subject to debate |
| 04:57.59 | jaxdahl | caverns of time is going to be open in 2.0 and not TBC? |
| 04:58.19 | jaxdahl | just saw my first 70 elite ever |
| 05:01.56 | Kaso | just TBC jaxdahl iirc |
| 05:02.05 | jaxdahl | it's open on the PTR so.. |
| 05:02.13 | Kaso | can you portal in on ptr? |
| 05:02.21 | jaxdahl | doubtful |
| 05:02.30 | jaxdahl | but you can buy water from the vendor there |
| 05:02.33 | jaxdahl | 5100mana/5s |
| 05:02.37 | Kaso | hax |
| 05:03.38 | Saeris | If the NPCs are still there when the patch goes live, but the door is closed, people are still going to get in via the back route. |
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| 05:08.27 | jaxdahl | 73 elite |
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| 05:18.20 | Saeris | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51009166&postId=509054576&sid=1#0 There's the forum post if anyone else experiences the bug and wants to back me up. |
| 05:19.23 | Cairenn | well written Saeris |
| 05:19.32 | Cairenn | but your sanity is still in question regardless |
| 05:20.21 | Saeris | hahaha, that's okay. I'm content to be considered a madman. |
| 05:20.35 | Cairenn | hey, you'll fit in much better around here that way ;) |
| 05:21.54 | zenzelezz | reminds me of that saying... "There's only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad." |
| 05:22.20 | Cairenn | sanity is vastly overrated |
| 05:24.02 | Iriel | I'd just like to curse Tycho from penny arcade for ever mentioning Bookworm Adventures |
| 05:24.15 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 05:25.14 | Thrae | $700,00 game? That's expensive! |
| 05:25.22 | Cairenn | oh NOW you've done it Saeris! |
| 05:25.26 | Cairenn | ???wow.web.forums.error500.message??? |
| 05:25.32 | Cairenn | you broke the forums! |
| 05:25.54 | nymbia | weird. |
| 05:26.20 | Saeris | Ruh roh, forums go boom. |
| 05:30.24 | Kaso | I think come tbc raider are going to dispise Ancient Lichen |
| 05:33.31 | Corr[home] | if anybody sees a level 78 mob... lemme know |
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| 05:33.47 | Kaso | level 78 mob? |
| 05:34.00 | Kaso | how would there be a level 78 mob |
| 05:34.29 | SB1-Laptop | There are level 64 mobs in current retail |
| 05:34.56 | Kaso | there are? |
| 05:34.58 | Kaso | where |
| 05:35.08 | Corr[home] | i've not heard of 64... |
| 05:35.13 | SB1-Laptop | MC, BWL, etc |
| 05:35.22 | SB1-Laptop | Bosses are technically level 64 there |
| 05:35.24 | Corr[home] | but the way there would be a level 78 mob is if they created a creature that was level 78, you see |
| 05:35.36 | Corr[home] | as far as i'm aware, the bosses are supposed to be level 63 |
| 05:35.46 | Kaso | yah 3levels above is the "cap" |
| 05:36.00 | SB1-Laptop | They read as 63, but some stats are balanced around the boss being 64 |
| 05:36.03 | jaxdahl | DPS classes can tell |
| 05:36.17 | jaxdahl | patchwerk is level 62 with respect to weapon skill |
| 05:36.22 | jaxdahl | but 63 otherwise |
| 05:36.24 | jaxdahl | i believe. |
| 05:36.38 | jaxdahl | i don't think there are any mobs that are level 64 |
| 05:36.41 | Kaso | im pretty sure all the maths as been done and none are above 63, otherwise glancing/resist get too silly |
| 05:36.43 | jaxdahl | miss/resist rate would be way too high |
| 05:36.54 | jaxdahl | but with the expansion, they can go even higher |
| 05:37.00 | Kaso | Corr[home] ok lemme ask another question, why do you need a 78 mob |
| 05:37.03 | jaxdahl | i'm pretty sure there will be mobs at 80 |
| 05:38.17 | Tain | There probably will be higher than 73 just because of the absurd bonuses on gear. But I don't know about 80. |
| 05:38.20 | Corr[home] | it's just relevant to a matter of someone claiming to have seen something |
| 05:39.49 | Fisker | There would be no reason to up the level of a mob when they can very well themselves decide how it should have stats |
| 05:39.57 | Tain | If there were a level 78 anything it isn't as if you'd actually know. |
| 05:40.00 | jaxdahl | Tain, have you seen spells or items that say 'not effective against mobs of level 80 or higher' or osmething like that? |
| 05:40.12 | Fisker | Only thing to worry about is glancing blows which they probably can set themselves too |
| 05:40.32 | Kaso | jaxdahl im sure they just put that so they dont have to go back and chance in the XP |
| 05:40.35 | Tain | Why set specific exceptions on creatuers when you can use the existing mechanics by raising a level? |
| 05:40.41 | Kaso | next XP |
| 05:40.59 | Fisker | exactly Tain |
| 05:40.59 | Corr[home] | so here's something that's bugging me. I can put MainMenuExpBar:Hide(); in an event handler for PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and it -still- doesn't hide it. i have to execute it manually after the UI is showing. |
| 05:41.01 | zenzelezz | my main concern about level 78+ mobs would be crushing blows |
| 05:41.13 | Fisker | That's why there's no logical reason why MC mobs should be level 64 |
| 05:41.15 | Tain | And why would there be something that says, "not effective against mobs level 80 or higher' |
| 05:41.20 | Iriel | Corr[home]: Chances are something else shows it in the meantime |
| 05:41.29 | Tain | MC? I thought we were talking about TBC. |
| 05:41.38 | Tain | There's nothing in MC above 63. |
| 05:41.41 | Kaso | Mind control |
| 05:41.45 | Saeris | Corr: MainMenuExpBar:Hide(); MainMenuExpBar.Show = function(self) end; |
| 05:41.52 | Kaso | oh wait sec |
| 05:42.04 | Fisker | that was SB1-Laptop that said that bosses in BWL,MC and so on were level 64 elites |
| 05:42.05 | Corr[home] | i should give that a try, Saeris. thanks. |
| 05:43.01 | Fisker | i just hate all this ajax crap |
| 05:43.10 | Fisker | Curse-gaming went from good, to okish, to bad |
| 05:43.23 | Corr[home] | ajax? |
| 05:43.26 | AnduinLothar | whats wrong with ajax? |
| 05:43.48 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX |
| 05:43.49 | Tain | There's nothing inherently wrong with ajax. Just the bad implementations. |
| 05:43.52 | Kaso | Tain the reason they say not effective against 80 and higher is so they dont have to go back and change all those items when they up the level cap again, theyre just pre-emptivly setting a limit |
| 05:44.13 | Fisker | Probably not as much as ajax as the whole "web 2.0" itself |
| 05:44.49 | Fisker | all that mindmap bullshit, bla bla bla, just give me a site and a proper search engine |
| 05:45.19 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/search.php? |
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| 05:45.35 | Fisker | hehe |
| 05:45.46 | Fisker | Not everyone uses wowinterace unfortunately :( |
| 05:45.58 | Cairenn | users follow where authors lead |
| 05:46.06 | Corr[home] | oh, yeah, curse's search function seems to be incredibly primitive |
| 05:46.11 | Fisker | not an author :) |
| 05:46.26 | Cairenn | I hope they can get the bugs worked out, though |
| 05:46.28 | ckknight | Fisker, only one way to change that. |
| 05:46.30 | Corr[home] | no options, just a basic string search |
| 05:46.32 | Fisker | Also complicated AJAX sites are usually sluggish |
| 05:47.18 | Fisker | Yeah well that's the whole "web 2.0" crap |
| 05:47.42 | Fisker | Search behaves more like a mindmap than a search |
| 05:47.55 | Corr[home] | i dont know that term |
| 05:48.14 | Fisker | a mindmap is what scientist speculate in how our brain functions |
| 05:48.50 | AnduinLothar | it's liek the 'im feelign luck' link on google |
| 05:48.56 | Fisker | yeah |
| 05:49.17 | AnduinLothar | auto sends to first close match |
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| 05:49.39 | Tain | Thankfully there's no reason to use anything other than Google. |
| 05:49.49 | Fisker | wikipedia can probably explain it easier than me :P |
| 05:49.56 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindmap |
| 05:50.18 | Fisker | Web 2.0/ajax/whatever is very focused on this kinda layout |
| 05:50.36 | Fisker | in curse-gaming their mindmap would be the labels you have in the files section |
| 05:51.31 | Corr[home] | huh. so... they're trying to move past the whole google method of searching and that's why their search feature blows? |
| 05:52.02 | AnduinLothar | it needs an option to do a normal search, rather than mindmap |
| 05:52.19 | Fisker | To me it's like removing all litterature and replacing them with <Subject> for Dummies |
| 05:52.22 | Corr[home] | search engines before google relied on tags and such. notice what happened when a good "text search" tool, google, arrived on the scene. |
| 05:56.42 | Corr[home] | so... anybody who has beta access, are you using 2.0.2 now over thar in the BC? |
| 05:56.58 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:57.30 | Corr[home] | could you try out a keybinding test for me? |
| 05:58.55 | Corr[home] | i desire to test what happens when you bind one of your additional action bar buttons to shift plus a number, set the self-cast key to alt, and then press alt-shift-number |
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| 05:59.48 | Tem | the binding modifier changes aren't in yet |
| 06:00.21 | Corr[home] | they didn't make it in on time for 2.0.2, hm? well, here's hoping for .3, then. |
| 06:00.33 | ckknight_ | blah |
| 06:00.40 | ckknight_ | Corr[home], it'll still probably be 2.0.2 |
| 06:00.44 | ckknight_ | just a different revision |
| 06:01.19 | Cairenn | they're still working on .2 |
| 06:01.44 | Corr[home] | i see |
| 06:02.17 | Cairenn | iirc, .1 is what hits on Tuesday |
| 06:02.29 | ckknight | Cairenn's got it. |
| 06:03.13 | Cairenn | .0 was what was burned to GM |
| 06:03.35 | Corr[home] | burned to GM? what does that mean? |
| 06:03.44 | Cairenn | Gold Master |
| 06:04.08 | Cairenn | TBC master CD from which all others are burned |
| 06:04.22 | AnduinLothar | or stamped |
| 06:04.28 | Fisker | hehe using GM in that context might not be smart :P |
| 06:04.30 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:04.42 | Corr[home] | sooo they've started producing the Burning Crusade discs already? They have decided on almost all of the assets being stable? |
| 06:04.54 | Cairenn | GM is standard terminology for that |
| 06:04.57 | Fisker | but won't they be producing a 2.0.1 gold master anyways, i remember that WoW had 1.11 from start |
| 06:04.59 | Fisker | or 1.1.1 |
| 06:05.21 | Fisker | ah well they could already have started producing TBC :P |
| 06:05.24 | Cairenn | when you install, it'll immediately force you to patch |
| 06:05.30 | Fisker | might not be such a bad idea considering the demand |
| 06:05.38 | Corr[home] | Fisker: given how some people had trouble comprehending 1.9 -> 1.10, they probably correctly figured that some people wouldn't understand a point zero |
| 06:05.46 | Cairenn | if they are putting out 7.5 million copies by 16 Jan, damn straight they are already pushing htem |
| 06:06.16 | Corr[home] | so they're just putting as much of the art and sounds and such onto the disc as they can at this point? |
| 06:06.25 | Corr[home] | and whatever else |
| 06:07.10 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:12.47 | Fisker | Anyone know if it's only the enchanting ui that has been improved(heard something about searching) or if the other tradeskills also got this feature? |
| 06:14.08 | Corr[home] | sorry, my ptr character is herbs and skins |
| 06:14.27 | AnduinLothar | not that i recal, lemme log on ym enchanter |
| 06:14.32 | Corr[home] | first aid looks about the same |
| 06:14.53 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 06:14.56 | jaxdahl | hmm |
| 06:14.58 | jaxdahl | i have enchanting |
| 06:14.59 | Fisker | I changed from leatherworking to enchanting |
| 06:15.01 | jaxdahl | and there's a checkmark |
| 06:15.01 | Fisker | which i like :o |
| 06:15.05 | jaxdahl | 'Have Materials' |
| 06:15.22 | jaxdahl | 'only show recipes that you have the materials to make' |
| 06:16.04 | AnduinLothar | i dont see any enchanting changes |
| 06:17.03 | Fisker | hmm ok :( |
| 06:17.56 | Fisker | rofl |
| 06:18.00 | Fisker | i can't get to the PTR's |
| 06:18.05 | Fisker | my account is flagged expansion |
| 06:18.36 | jaxdahl | haha, i just soloed a 59 elite dragonkin in UBRS |
| 06:18.39 | jaxdahl | nerf paladins |
| 06:18.58 | Fisker | so it is agreed |
| 06:19.04 | jaxdahl | didn't use divine shield or bop |
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| 06:34.40 | abug | anyone know if cide has a myspace or facebook? |
| 06:37.47 | AnduinLothar | lol why? |
| 06:40.59 | Inside | why? |
| 06:41.03 | Inside | stalker |
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| 06:42.20 | Thunder_Child | Tain: Ping |
| 06:42.25 | jaxdahl | world pvp is already heating up on my server |
| 06:42.33 | jaxdahl | since people don't care about DKs anymore |
| 06:42.47 | jaxdahl | several city raids already |
| 06:44.37 | Inside | XD |
| 06:44.55 | Inside | Be funny if Blizzard is like "Well, if you had any Dks, you'll start off the new system in the negative honor points" |
| 06:46.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:46.33 | ckknight | how do DKs work in the new system? |
| 06:46.56 | AnduinLothar | we're doign a 5 guild orgrimaar raid tomorrow |
| 06:48.45 | jaxdahl | ckknight, they don't exist |
| 06:48.57 | ckknight | but do they affect your honor or anything? |
| 06:49.09 | jaxdahl | how would they if they don't exist? |
| 06:49.40 | ckknight | I'm just wondering. |
| 06:49.53 | ckknight | what prevents people from killing civilians now? |
| 06:50.09 | AnduinLothar | it deranks you |
| 06:50.30 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing there just isn't a civilian anymore |
| 06:50.45 | ckknight | figured, AnduinLothar |
| 06:50.50 | jaxdahl | they beefed up guard levels |
| 06:50.56 | ckknight | so do you lose honor from it, then? |
| 06:51.00 | jaxdahl | you lose durability when killed by guards |
| 06:51.08 | jaxdahl | ckknight, post patch? no |
| 06:51.15 | jaxdahl | but currently, you do lose honor and can lose rank |
| 06:51.25 | ckknight | what does rank entail? |
| 06:51.29 | ckknight | stuff you can buy? |
| 06:51.31 | jaxdahl | yes |
| 06:51.44 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:51.51 | jaxdahl | people are only going for rank this week if they want to display a new title post patch |
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| 06:51.52 | ckknight | when does rank update? Tuesday still? |
| 06:51.55 | jaxdahl | yes |
| 06:52.03 | jaxdahl | it's done at 3am pacific normally |
| 06:52.10 | jaxdahl | servers are going down at 1am |
| 06:52.13 | AnduinLothar | it's only for your 'max lifetime' title tho |
| 06:52.16 | jaxdahl | so people won't be able to buy new stuff |
| 06:52.21 | jaxdahl | so it's only for the title |
| 06:52.47 | grimman|waiwai | Hai hai! |
| 06:53.31 | jaxdahl | hey, i have an idea for wowace.com/files/ .. would it be possible for it to automatically detect a readme file and leave that extraced in the root directory of the addon? |
| 06:54.09 | jaxdahl | extractd* |
| 06:54.13 | jaxdahl | er, you know what i mean |
| 06:55.21 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 07:06.26 | abug | shadowmoon valley isn't open right? |
| 07:09.30 | jaxdahl | i think it is |
| 07:10.05 | Tem | unless they opened it this week, no |
| 07:10.37 | jaxdahl | i'm sure it is |
| 07:10.43 | jaxdahl | they are asking for feedback on the beta forums |
| 07:10.47 | jaxdahl | and getting it |
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| 07:42.27 | Fisker | Has anyone continued a mod similar to theorycraft? |
| 07:42.43 | Fisker | need a wow 2.0.x compatible one soon :) |
| 07:42.50 | Saeris | What does Theorycraft do? |
| 07:43.26 | Fisker | Various damage calculations |
| 07:43.46 | Fisker | They write the expected damage an abillity can do with your current gear, stats and weapons |
| 07:44.00 | Fisker | and you can get more detailed tooltip information with dps, hps, hps with current mana, and such |
| 07:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | EnergyWatch v2 |
| 07:46.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | Last updated 36 years, 11 months ago |
| 07:46.25 | Saeris | None of that should be particularly broken, Fisker. |
| 07:46.37 | Saeris | You can probably just fix it yourself and continue using it. |
| 07:47.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty damn complex |
| 07:47.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably would take a total rewrite :/ |
| 07:48.13 | Fisker | yeah of course if i actually had any experiecing coding in lua or for wow in particular |
| 07:48.20 | Saeris | Very unlikely. If all it does is gather information and modify the tooltips to display that, nothing should be broken. The tooltips have not changed. It would just need fixes on the order of string.find -> string.match. |
| 07:48.36 | Fisker | And i would also have to rewrite the calculations as they are no longer accurate |
| 07:49.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | it also modifies action buttons and stuff too sae |
| 07:50.03 | Saeris | Granted, Fisker. I was thinking only of the actual code compatibilities. |
| 07:50.17 | Saeris | How does it modify action buttons? Or why? |
| 07:50.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | it adds the average damage, or whatever you want, to the button |
| 07:50.51 | Fisker | It modifies them with a damage display |
| 07:50.55 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 07:51.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | average damage, modifies macros that are properly named to use the spell tooltip instead of just the macro name |
| 07:54.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | its 14 different files, not including localizations :o |
| 07:54.55 | AnduinLothar | oi |
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| 08:11.25 | Tem | # of files doesn't mean anything |
| 08:12.31 | Inside | Nor does the number of lines |
| 08:12.42 | Inside | I suppose, unless you're using python |
| 08:22.02 | Tem | no, I do give a little wieght to number of lines |
| 08:22.25 | Tem | there are some things that you just know shouldn't take more than a couple hundred lines |
| 08:23.34 | Inside | I'm just saying that it's possible in LUA to stick everything on one line >_> |
| 08:24.16 | Caeryn | TBC lagging is messing up my mods timing >_< |
| 08:27.47 | grimman|waiwai | Name? |
| 08:27.54 | Caeryn | name? |
| 08:27.58 | grimman|waiwai | Yes. |
| 08:28.15 | grimman|waiwai | Of said mod. |
| 08:28.19 | grimman|waiwai | Obviously. |
| 08:29.00 | Caeryn | I'm updating Drathal's HUD |
| 08:29.08 | grimman|waiwai | Oh. |
| 08:29.16 | Caeryn | I'm having problem with updating the castbar when there are delays due to interrupting |
| 08:29.54 | grimman|waiwai | But... isn't MetaHUD ~the same thing? |
| 08:29.58 | Caeryn | because the lag adds some stupid amount to the calculation |
| 08:31.08 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.09 | Inside | lag? |
| 08:31.26 | Caeryn | lots of Huds out there, they all do ~ the same thing |
| 08:31.54 | Thunder_Child | and they lie about being HUD's since the entire UI is a HUD |
| 08:42.50 | Thunder_Child | acoording to the downloader we are getting 2.0.1 while the beta has 2.0.2, yet slouken posts "[in regards to the upcoming patch]You're actually getting newer code than either the PTR or the Beta." |
| 08:42.51 | Thunder_Child | Just seems kinda odd |
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| 08:45.03 | Neuro_Medivh | TC, you're thinking of 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 as being sequential |
| 08:45.17 | Thunder_Child | i normaly do when numbers are involved |
| 08:45.25 | Thunder_Child | i presume i am incorrect? |
| 08:45.25 | Neuro_Medivh | yes, I know, but that's not the case here |
| 08:45.54 | Neuro_Medivh | it's more like 2.0.2-bc, and 2.0.2-nonbc |
| 08:46.01 | Neuro_Medivh | it's just that the nonbc is called 2.0.1 |
| 08:46.12 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok |
| 08:46.15 | Neuro_Medivh | they both use the same code base, just one doesn't have BC |
| 08:47.16 | Thunder_Child | ok then, if they are handing out newer code in live than has been tested in either PTR/Beta, thats kinda odd as well |
| 08:47.54 | Neuro_Medivh | shrug, it'll just be bug fixes, nothing new |
| 08:48.17 | Neuro_Medivh | and at least when it goes live, they'll patch problems within 24 hours, instead of "next week" |
| 08:48.32 | Mery | lol |
| 08:48.53 | Neuro_Medivh | Right now, it's all "Oh, just wait till the next beta patch, it'll be fixed" =) |
| 08:55.31 | Fisker | also you have to remember they're working on several patches at the same time |
| 08:56.32 | Thunder_Child | which would seem to me that it would make more sense to throw it on the test server (either) first to check for bugs...reducing 3 patches to 2...ish |
| 08:58.51 | Fisker | ptr's aren't used for bug testing :P |
| 09:01.47 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, i cant see where it would really hurt |
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| 09:05.54 | Mery | AnduinLothar: ping |
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| 09:11.50 | AnduinLothar | yo |
| 09:12.42 | Mery | I'm trying to send myself a table using whisper with telepathy |
| 09:13.19 | Mery | but i only get the serialized object as whisper, is "send to self" not supproted or |
| 09:13.43 | Mery | what might be the error? |
| 09:15.52 | AnduinLothar | did you register a listener? |
| 09:16.05 | Mery | ya |
| 09:16.19 | Mery | same as ID i pass to sendTable(id |
| 09:16.40 | Mery | isListener reports true for the id |
| 09:17.04 | zenzelezz | can you send yourself whispers manually in-game? |
| 09:17.10 | AnduinLothar | is it calling your listener func? |
| 09:17.13 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 09:17.38 | zenzelezz | how peculiar, I'd have thought otherwise |
| 09:17.45 | Mery | no its not calling it |
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| 09:19.22 | Mery | http://wowi.pastey.net/2950 <- that's what I'm doing |
| 09:20.03 | Mery | nvm me |
| 09:20.29 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 09:20.30 | Mery | there is a syntax error in there |
| 09:20.42 | AnduinLothar | .. |
| 09:20.58 | Mery | but it is not calling my function still |
| 09:22.07 | Mery | hmm Telepathy is throwing |
| 09:22.13 | Mery | Error: attempt to index global 'Sea' (a nil value)File: ...dOns\MapNotesShare\Telepathy\Satellite\Satellite.luaLine: 744Count: 1 |
| 09:23.19 | Mery | but I included all mentioned libs in the Telepathy.xml |
| 09:23.37 | AnduinLothar | in live? |
| 09:23.44 | Mery | no |
| 09:24.05 | Mery | Cosmos_TestServer.zip is what I got the files from |
| 09:24.14 | AnduinLothar | when did you download them? |
| 09:24.25 | Mery | like 30 min ago |
| 09:24.45 | Mery | from http://www.cosmosui.org/index.php?p=download&f=Cosmos_TestServer.zip |
| 09:25.21 | Mery | oh it just needs SeaHooks |
| 09:26.14 | AnduinLothar | ok, well I just tried it on live an it works. and PartyQuests works on beta, so I know table sending works via whisper |
| 09:26.36 | AnduinLothar | SeaHooks is part of Sea |
| 09:26.47 | AnduinLothar | or can also be an embeddable dep |
| 09:26.53 | AnduinLothar | or its own addon |
| 09:26.55 | Mery | I know, I only included SeaStrings |
| 09:27.08 | Mery | since SeaHooks is note mentioned in Telepathy.xml |
| 09:27.27 | Mery | (I made it embedded) |
| 09:27.30 | Miravlix | I'm so hungry I could eat a cow, anyone a tauren? |
| 09:28.18 | AnduinLothar | ah ok, I'll add it to the xml. I haven't packaged the standalone version yet so it hadn't really mattered. thx for bringing it to my attention. sorry you had trouble iwth it |
| 09:29.37 | Mery | no sorry for the trouble I made you :) since well I overlooked the error :/ |
| 09:30.07 | Miravlix | Beautiful job on the latest BC beta Cosmos, Andu |
| 09:31.26 | AnduinLothar | thanks, it still needs a little work, unfortunetly most of the ones that are left need their maintainer to make some decisions. and I don't really want to take on more mods atm |
| 09:32.20 | Mery | ! no your xml files were correct |
| 09:32.40 | Mery | i just didn't throw them into sattelite |
| 09:32.46 | Mery | ... |
| 09:32.51 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 09:40.53 | Thunder_Child | so who went and agreed what color shamans will now be? |
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| 09:48.00 | Fisker | you mean what it is or "it's crap, who did this?" |
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| 09:51.04 | Thunder_Child | more like, who/what group decide on the new color |
| 09:51.09 | Thunder_Child | decided* |
| 09:51.20 | Fisker | ok |
| 09:51.21 | Fisker | :P |
| 09:53.15 | AnduinLothar | its easy pally's are awesome and the devs play alliance, so we got to keep pink :P |
| 09:54.56 | Thunder_Child | "Got to keep"...i didnt know the pallys WANTED pink.... |
| 09:55.04 | Fisker | and rogues are 12 year olds with no life, ganking people at 50% hp, and half the level while engaged in multiple mob combat, whilst bragging about it in Ironforge |
| 09:55.26 | Thunder_Child | and by dev's, you mean blizz oriniated the colors? |
| 09:55.32 | Thunder_Child | originated* |
| 09:57.10 | Fisker | Nebu isn't that GFraizer? |
| 10:02.10 | AnduinLothar | ok, i need some decision making help |
| 10:02.11 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/BankManager/BankManager.html |
| 10:02.21 | AnduinLothar | you see the +/- buttons |
| 10:02.48 | AnduinLothar | + means it's completely in the bank or bags according to collumn |
| 10:03.08 | AnduinLothar | - means it's not complete, but might be partially in that place |
| 10:03.27 | AnduinLothar | I need some icons or buttons or way to display it that might be more intuitive |
| 10:04.14 | AnduinLothar | and i also need a way to click to move back and forth. currently you click the button, and while that is good cause it only requires 1 click, it's nto quite intuitive |
| 10:04.41 | AnduinLothar | i could make it so you have to sellect a set and then click a "move to bags" or "move to bank" button.. but that requires 2 clicks |
| 10:05.19 | AnduinLothar | alos the +/- buttons are ugly imo and out of place |
| 10:05.42 | AnduinLothar | and it's hard to tell at a glance where thigns are cause thew + looks so similar to - |
| 10:05.51 | AnduinLothar | maybe if + were green |
| 10:06.11 | AnduinLothar | or if it were just a check mark |
| 10:08.38 | Fisker | think the checkmark would be best |
| 10:09.20 | AnduinLothar | what if i made custom icons... liek a little bag and a little colonnade |
| 10:10.01 | Fisker | well if you made custom icons that would probably solve your problems :) |
| 10:10.15 | AnduinLothar | well i'd have to make a custom checkmark anyway i think |
| 10:10.21 | AnduinLothar | mmm |
| 10:10.35 | AnduinLothar | actually the quest log has checks for tracking, right? |
| 10:11.00 | Fisker | i think so |
| 10:12.45 | AnduinLothar | oh interesting. it's the check overlay from checkboxs just used by itself |
| 10:13.06 | AnduinLothar | wonder if there's an x |
| 10:15.13 | AnduinLothar | ooo, there's a zero with a slash through it from the roll frame |
| 10:32.40 | AnduinLothar | much better |
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| 10:45.39 | Mery | your buttons are so small (I know nealy impossible to tell, so I put the original thing under it, well and you already have a solution): http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9861/untitled3ed4.jpg |
| 10:47.55 | AnduinLothar | what about http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/BankManagerIcons.jpg |
| 10:49.05 | Mery | that's cool! |
| 10:53.06 | AnduinLothar | and easier, since the images are already made |
| 10:53.46 | AnduinLothar | prolly gonna add "Move To:" buttons anyway |
| 10:55.19 | Mery | well the two re circles can mean 2 thins: "scattered across bank and bags" or "you don't have it complete anymore"? or does it fade if the set isn't complete anymore? |
| 10:55.28 | Mery | two red* |
| 10:55.32 | Mery | things* |
| 10:55.47 | AnduinLothar | the title fades if you don't have the complete set anymore |
| 10:56.16 | Mery | ahh :) |
| 10:59.46 | Fisker | it wins |
| 11:08.05 | SP|Sorren | man, you know you're drunk when you try to spell curse gaming with a k, even though you've been browsing the site for two years now -- and im off to bed. |
| 11:10.14 | Mery | AnduinLothar: I see you are replacing s and S in the object I send, but not in the id - so I should just avoid using s or S in the id's? |
| 11:11.21 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, good point |
| 11:11.45 | ckknight | AceComm-2.0 encodes all messages on output and decodes on input. Doesn't Telepathy? |
| 11:12.25 | AnduinLothar | i don't remember how i coded it, would have to check |
| 11:12.30 | Mery | a telepathy message looks more like a xml file (kind of) |
| 11:12.54 | Mery | actually not really |
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| 11:14.00 | ckknight | an AceComm message looks like an asn.1 string ;-) |
| 11:14.29 | AnduinLothar | that's jsut the SeaString serialization that looks kinda like xml with the <> |
| 11:14.39 | gamefreak | got a question considering an combat event |
| 11:14.56 | gamefreak | maybe som1 knows |
| 11:15.08 | Mery | http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/372/untitled5pt6.jpg |
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| 11:15.52 | gamefreak | UNIT_COMBAT has several args including the one that suffers damage but i need to know who does the damage how is this possible? |
| 11:16.28 | Kirov | yes, but not using UNIT_COMBAT |
| 11:16.32 | gamefreak | jeah ok |
| 11:16.36 | gamefreak | what event then? |
| 11:16.42 | Corr[home] | that would be too easy |
| 11:16.50 | Kirov | You have to parse the combat log text. |
| 11:16.55 | gamefreak | XD |
| 11:16.59 | gamefreak | old school |
| 11:17.03 | Kirov | aye |
| 11:17.17 | gamefreak | so no events for it awww |
| 11:21.20 | SP|Sorren | wow super fast turnaround for posting mods to wowi tonite, thank whoever's out there ;) |
| 11:21.38 | Kirov | heh |
| 11:22.02 | Kirov | I'm fairly sure cairenn sleeps with her hand on the "accept mod" button |
| 11:22.42 | SP|Sorren | props to her then |
| 11:22.49 | SP|Sorren | ciao |
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| 11:47.34 | AnduinLothar | Here we go: http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/BankManagerBeta.jpg |
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| 13:01.09 | Industrial | How do I bind the stance bar buttons? |
| 13:01.15 | Industrial | wich ones are they in the bindings menu |
| 13:01.17 | Industrial | the blizz ones |
| 13:01.26 | Industrial | (im trying bongos and im really liking it) |
| 13:02.30 | nevcairiel | special action button |
| 13:02.30 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 13:02.48 | Industrial | k |
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| 13:03.18 | Industrial | yes thanks |
| 13:09.40 | Fisker | Has there been any announcements on maintanence this tuesday/wednesday? |
| 13:09.56 | AnduinLothar | "intended push date of 2.0 is 5 Dec" |
| 13:10.09 | AnduinLothar | extended maintenance |
| 13:10.10 | KaoS` | subject to changer. |
| 13:11.01 | AnduinLothar | The login screen of wow says tuesday is extendend maint to aply content patch |
| 13:11.20 | AnduinLothar | 12 hour down time 1am - 1pm |
| 13:12.00 | Industrial | Hmm I just started out fresh with 0 addons and tried Bongos and StatusBars - I kinda like it :o |
| 13:12.23 | Industrial | first time ill be using bars that switch on stance, have to see how that goes |
| 13:12.43 | Industrial | usually just use 3 bars of 12 buttons |
| 13:12.54 | Industrial | 1-= S1-= C1-= |
| 13:13.15 | Industrial | when did the new curse site launch? |
| 13:13.23 | nevcairiel | today |
| 13:13.31 | Industrial | its nice |
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| 13:14.29 | grimman|waiwai | rofl @ people who publish new addons today when in two days they will be borked. REALLY borked. |
| 13:14.36 | Industrial | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2669/bubbles-poc/ |
| 13:14.37 | Industrial | what the |
| 13:14.56 | Industrial | grimman|waiwai: yeah im waiting with making anything myself until the patch - kinda frustrating when your hands are itching to work |
| 13:15.30 | grimman|waiwai | Industrial: One can still work, I'm not saying everything will break... but I saw one particular addon that will be 100% broken, published today. |
| 13:15.57 | Industrial | grimman|waiwai: I have my own addons done for 2.0/TBC |
| 13:16.01 | nevcairiel | Industrial: work on beta or PTR |
| 13:16.20 | Industrial | but im not playing in TBC cause The little Time I do play wow I want to level up |
| 13:16.37 | Industrial | and currently my 1.12 version has bugs i dont want to fix cause of the update |
| 13:21.09 | Industrial | wow. that bubbles addon is really nice |
| 13:21.20 | grimman|waiwai | Oh... apparently I had 20 minutes left of a movie I started watching 6 hours ago. :P |
| 13:21.24 | grimman|waiwai | Not a good sign. |
| 13:22.56 | Industrial | Everyone should check out the bubbles addon its revolutionary :O |
| 13:23.08 | Industrial | too bad my fps is too high - the scrolling text goes way fast |
| 13:23.20 | axxo | 0~url, |
| 13:23.22 | Industrial | (70-80fps) |
| 13:23.24 | axxo | url? |
| 13:23.30 | Industrial | http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/2669/bubbles-poc/ |
| 13:24.29 | grimman|waiwai | axxo... sounds familiar. |
| 13:24.58 | axxo | looks cute |
| 13:25.35 | Industrial | it makes these bubbles of people and draws lines between them |
| 13:25.41 | Industrial | so you can see who targets who |
| 13:25.59 | Industrial | also has scolling text of damage above the bubbles |
| 13:26.04 | Industrial | (tiny bubbles) |
| 13:26.39 | Industrial | apparently it also has auto bubblemaking (things you target) but it normally works with a keybind |
| 13:26.51 | Industrial | would be great with raid support |
| 13:27.00 | Industrial | who heals who, hp display etc |
| 13:28.05 | axxo | will also stop working in 5 days? |
| 13:28.54 | Industrial | prolly :( |
| 13:30.57 | Corr[home] | 5 days? why do you say 5 days instead of... 2 or 3? |
| 13:34.18 | axxo | because i have no clue what day today is :) |
| 13:35.06 | Industrial | hm |
| 13:35.33 | Industrial | I fear googlesque things will happen with the new tags things on curse |
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| 13:35.47 | Industrial | ie ppl add as many tags as possible to appear more often |
| 13:36.17 | Industrial | tags are fine if correct but the masses screw that up :P |
| 13:37.48 | axxo | there is notting the masses can't screw up |
| 13:39.03 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 13:39.04 | AnduinLothar | MenuOnScreen |
| 13:39.04 | AnduinLothar | Last updated 36 years, 11 months ago |
| 13:39.16 | AnduinLothar | silly curse is confused |
| 13:39.20 | zenzelezz | "old-school" |
| 13:40.22 | axxo | woo, my first attempt at an addon stopped giving errors |
| 13:40.43 | zenzelezz | uh oh, sounds like you broke the error reporter! |
| 13:40.55 | axxo | lol |
| 13:41.35 | grimman|waiwai | Hm... apparently one can get away with only 2 hours of sleep per day for 6 months without any risks. |
| 13:42.54 | axxo | good, because i've been doeing 4-5 for about a year |
| 13:43.22 | grimman|waiwai | Oh, 4-5 is nothing spectacular... apparently one doesn't need more. |
| 13:43.42 | grimman|waiwai | But 2 hours... that's awesome. |
| 13:43.47 | axxo | you're tired a hell though |
| 13:43.48 | AnduinLothar | those mate1 adds on curse are distracting, with boobies hangin out and everything |
| 13:43.57 | grimman|waiwai | Oh? |
| 13:44.30 | grimman|waiwai | I was tired after having been up for 8 hours today, took a 30 minute nap and felt great again. |
| 13:44.35 | AnduinLothar | how am i sposed to get any work done with that on my screen |
| 13:44.45 | AnduinLothar | I took a 3 hr nap today, felt good |
| 13:44.57 | AnduinLothar | aand that's prolly why i'm up and it's almost 6am |
| 13:45.08 | grimman|waiwai | The 2 hour thing means basically scheduling naps with specific intervals. |
| 13:45.58 | grimman|waiwai | It's intriguing. :D |
| 13:46.14 | Industrial | what ads? |
| 13:46.27 | Industrial | ohhh wait i never see ads |
| 13:46.28 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:46.35 | grimman|waiwai | AdBlock ftw. ^^ |
| 13:46.45 | Industrial | + g.filter thingy |
| 13:46.53 | Mery | well i get a "punch the zombi to get a free xbox 360" |
| 13:47.14 | grimman|waiwai | Oh? |
| 13:47.20 | Industrial | get firefox, AdBlock and Adblock Filterset.G Updater |
| 13:47.21 | grimman|waiwai | /adblock disable |
| 13:48.48 | grimman|waiwai | lawl, I don't see how anyone can have a very good social life if you have to nap every few hours. |
| 13:49.36 | Mery | well I have the adbocks off because the german soccer league live ticker somehow refuses to work with it on - lol |
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| 13:50.41 | Thardal | you can switch it off only for certain sites |
| 13:51.12 | Mery | too lazy |
| 13:51.22 | Mery | not its off over the weekend |
| 13:51.33 | Mery | =) |
| 13:52.52 | Mery | now* |
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| 14:06.39 | Industrial | local _HealthBar_OnValueChanged = HealthBar_OnValueChanged |
| 14:06.39 | Industrial | local function OnValueChanged(nValue, bSmooth) _HealthBar_OnValueChanged(nValue, true) end |
| 14:06.42 | Industrial | HealthBar_OnValueChanged = OnValueChanged |
| 14:06.45 | Industrial | ok |
| 14:06.46 | Industrial | that was easier then I thought |
| 14:06.48 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:07.07 | Industrial | (bar colouring when it drops) |
| 14:07.59 | axxo | must keybind /rl |
| 14:09.53 | Cairenn|afk | AnduinLothar: you have a 2.0 updated version of Archaeologist around? |
| 14:16.56 | Industrial | nice voice |
| 14:17.24 | Industrial | http://server2.kawaii-radio.net:9000/ |
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| 14:25.23 | tigg | ckknight: is the merge in ace2-r18708 backwards compatible? |
| 14:26.04 | ckknight | no. |
| 14:39.54 | Cairenn|afk | Elkano: already been discussed multiple times on the site and in channels, already in the works, just pure lack of time on our end why it hasn't happened already |
| 14:40.05 | Cairenn|afk | not upset, just answering you |
| 14:41.21 | Elkano | k :) |
| 14:48.51 | [Cu]Werik | Elkano: :( |
| 14:50.21 | Cairenn|afk | [Cu]Werik: you can please some of the people ... |
| 14:50.33 | Cairenn|afk | [Cu]Werik: I'm sure there are tons that like the new layout |
| 14:51.27 | Industrial | personally I use the light layout on wowi |
| 14:51.38 | Industrial | the lighter the better, but thats just me :P |
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| 14:52.35 | [Cu]Werik | Cairenn|afk, I'm not so sure about that;) |
| 14:52.49 | Elkano | Werik, I see that you all put a lot of work into the new page, but for me, the old gave me the better overview. |
| 14:53.30 | Elkano | the right column is too width imho, the files list on the addon pages isn't that informative any more either, ... |
| 14:53.42 | Cairenn|afk | [Cu]Werik: *personally* I can't stand it, I much preferred the old site, find it bloody impossible to find anything this way, but everyone knows I'm just an old fogey ;) |
| 14:53.47 | [Cu]Werik | Nah, dont get me wrong. I'm not taking sides any more than I have to |
| 14:54.18 | [Cu]Werik | Personally, I don't like it either. Hopefully noone else is here from curse:P |
| 14:54.30 | Cairenn|afk | doesn't mean I can't recognize that others like it and hope that it works out for you guys |
| 14:56.26 | [Cu]Werik | The new site incorporates some fancy technologies which can seems to be a bit tough for some users. |
| 14:56.50 | Cairenn|afk | lol, way to slam everyone that says they don't like it! |
| 14:56.58 | [Cu]Werik | :P |
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| 14:57.31 | [Cu]Werik | It's strange for people whom not familiar with nowadays trends and web 2.0 and these huge technical words |
| 14:57.59 | [Cu]Werik | Damn, I should have choosen the political career |
| 14:59.41 | Industrial | I vote for an E-certfificate |
| 14:59.43 | [Cu]Werik | Whatever, I hope it will work out after all, for the good of every addon author:) |
| 15:00.29 | Industrial | the No Dumbshits On My Internet Initiative |
| 15:00.38 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 15:00.47 | Industrial | Age 16 and up. (wow that sure clears alot of problems) |
| 15:01.16 | [Cu]Werik | Anyway, thanks Cairenn. We hope the same :) |
| 15:01.38 | Cairenn|afk | Industrial: rofl, that was less than accurate |
| 15:01.56 | Cairenn|afk | and a whole lot less than courteous |
| 15:03.16 | Industrial | Cairenn|afk: well yeah, but it would work :P |
| 15:03.30 | Cairenn|afk | Industrial: not |
| 15:04.15 | Industrial | how so? track people down and take their license if they act like a moron - but still keep the internet free (except for monthly prices (ie gas money)) |
| 15:04.22 | Cairenn|afk | Industrial: I know a lot of <16 that are a lot more computer/internet/technology savvy (not to mention more mature) than many >16 |
| 15:04.50 | Industrial | well i guess you could skip age if the person can pass the test |
| 15:04.51 | [Cu]Werik | THere is vjeux for example |
| 15:04.56 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 15:06.09 | [Cu]Werik | Though, if I can see it correctly, he just disclaimed my statement with that post on the main page. ahhh, I have a headache already :P I gotta study, have fun :) |
| 15:06.47 | Cairenn|afk | later `imhiding` |
| 15:06.58 | Industrial | lol |
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| 15:13.01 | Cairenn|afk | *wanders off for a while* |
| 15:13.30 | Industrial | *goes to get some levels* |
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| 15:17.58 | VoidRaider|sleep | Hello :) |
| 15:28.31 | Industrial | Any alternative to SCT, SCTD and the blizzard one? |
| 15:28.37 | Industrial | er, and MSBT |
| 15:31.11 | Tain | Is there any specific thing you're looking for that SCT and MSBT don't provide? |
| 15:32.14 | Industrial | I dont like the wat SCT works with the target/damage thing |
| 15:32.19 | Industrial | MSBT does it much nicer |
| 15:32.21 | Industrial | but, no. |
| 15:35.08 | Tain | I haven't seen any others, and I wouldn't want Greyhoof to pitch a fit at anyone else for stealing his addon ideas. |
| 15:37.32 | Industrial | after this much time I dont think it should be called stealing |
| 15:39.30 | Tain | It never should have been. But what can you do. |
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| 15:44.28 | axxo | so i'm hooking CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM, and want to ouput some extra things, but it shows before that chat msg, whats the best methode to add my message after it? |
| 15:47.36 | cladhaire | Cairenn|afk: PING |
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| 16:31.57 | Industrial | did AceLibrary-2.0 update to lua5.1 ? |
| 16:32.02 | Industrial | ckknight: ? |
| 16:32.09 | Industrial | getting a '...' error |
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| 16:36.29 | Corr[home] | 1) Industrial, did you get the latest SVN version of ace2, and delete and replace the libraries versions you got with packaged addons because they were outdated? |
| 16:36.47 | Corr[home] | 2) i don't know how the newer version of SCT handles damage as you were saying. i still use version 4. |
| 16:41.16 | Industrial | Corr[home]: Ace2 is embedded, and MSBT just has your damage output on the right and loss on the left |
| 16:41.58 | Corr[home] | well, i think i had a problem with old ace2's when i didn't do that. |
| 16:42.09 | Corr[home] | i mean, what if the first version that tries to load is out of date and causes errors? |
| 16:42.18 | Industrial | then whats the point of having it embedded |
| 16:42.18 | Industrial | imo |
| 16:42.46 | Corr[home] | the fact that it still works across most patches, those that -don't- change to an incompatible version of Lua |
| 16:42.54 | Industrial | Corr[home]: an ace addon should only have to do with the version of ace it shipped with |
| 16:43.28 | Corr[home] | well, that's not how the embedded libraries of ac2 work as far as i know. the newest version is the one that "stays loaded" |
| 16:43.28 | Industrial | if that version causes errors for that addon then the author should update :P |
| 16:43.32 | Industrial | not the user |
| 16:43.45 | Corr[home] | i like how you say "should" |
| 16:44.15 | Corr[home] | addon authors aren't always on hand, updating stuff, though. i have to fix things myself sometimes. |
| 16:49.00 | Corr[home] | maybe i'm wrong, anyway. maybe the ace2 thing isn't as much of an issue as i thought. still, if it's trying to load an ace2 addon from an embedded library, and it has a 2.0 incompatibility, the it will fail, and some library functions won't get loaded at that point. then, the addon itself will fail to load because it will try to referense the library functions that didn't load. that's my speculation, anyway |
| 16:49.10 | Corr[home] | well, i'm going to pack up and go back to school, now. see ya |
| 16:49.20 | Industrial | later |
| 16:55.07 | Cairenn | cladhaire: pong |
| 17:03.10 | nevcairiel | Industrial: the SVN Version of Ace2 got updated for 2.0 today. |
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| 17:13.25 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: ping? |
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| 18:03.43 | SP|Sorren | anyone know how to get your curse uploads to work? :o |
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| 18:06.18 | [Cu]Werik | He is silent |
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| 18:08.55 | [Cu]Werik | What's wrong Sorren? |
| 18:11.28 | [Cu]Werik | :( |
| 18:15.33 | Cairenn | SP|Sorren: *poke* |
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| 18:19.23 | SP|Sorren | OH |
| 18:19.28 | SP|Sorren | er whoops |
| 18:19.40 | SP|Sorren | sec arena |
| 18:21.05 | SP|Sorren | when you try to download the file i uploaded last night |
| 18:21.24 | SP|Sorren | it says theres no mirrors for my file |
| 18:21.40 | [Cu]Werik | Which addon? |
| 18:21.52 | SP|Sorren | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4835/sorrens-timers/ |
| 18:22.11 | SP|Sorren | also it wont let me upload files as just 2.0, lemme get you the error |
| 18:22.46 | [Cu]Werik | btw, if you register your name, we can deal with this in PM without spamming the channel with offtopic stuff:) |
| 18:23.51 | Industrial | nevcairiel: k |
| 18:23.52 | SP|Sorren | whoops ;p |
| 18:24.01 | Cairenn | it's not offtopic and the channel is quiet, so ... :) |
| 18:24.40 | [Cu]Werik | Btw, the problem is probably because you uploaded your file after we took the snapshot from the file database of v2:) |
| 18:32.35 | [Cu]Werik | Yea, it's some juicy story:P |
| 18:42.40 | axxo | i'm hooking CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM, and outputting some more lines if the msg matches something, i can't seem to figure out a good way to have them after the msg, if i print in the event handler it shows before it |
| 18:43.10 | cladhaire | hook ChatFrame1:AddMessage |
| 18:44.15 | axxo | ok, will try that, thanks |
| 18:46.58 | cladhaire | Anyone else finding that the addons screen is broken to all shit? |
| 18:52.44 | Industrial | neg |
| 18:56.45 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 18:56.45 | cladhaire | k |
| 18:56.54 | axxo | Works like a charm :) |
| 18:57.11 | cladhaire | mine doesn't |
| 18:57.12 | cladhaire | its borked. |
| 18:57.26 | Kaso | "broken to all shit" could you clarifiy that a little? |
| 18:57.42 | Cairenn | if user == clad then get broken all to shit |
| 18:57.47 | cladhaire | yep |
| 18:58.01 | cladhaire | i can't use disableaddon() or use the addon screen to disable addons |
| 18:58.04 | cladhaire | they just get re-checked. |
| 18:58.22 | Cide | did you write protect the file that saves the status maybe? |
| 18:58.30 | Cide | not that I have any idea why one would do that... |
| 18:58.39 | Elessdy | maybe you need to check the "stop enabling all my addons" box ;) |
| 18:58.47 | VoidRaider|afk | Hmm it will change the file attribute back even if you did |
| 18:58.51 | cladhaire | hehehe, no its not write protected |
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| 19:07.50 | Kaelten | hi ya pprovost |
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| 19:45.10 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:46.01 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 19:49.26 | zenzelezz | I like the Battleguard Sartura fight... always something fun that will happen |
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| 20:02.07 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm sure many of you have seen this before, but "He Man does 4 Non Blondes" rocks :D Google it :P |
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| 20:08.47 | jaxdahl | hmm |
| 20:08.52 | jaxdahl | so they have a guild bank design in the works |
| 20:08.59 | jaxdahl | for a patch post-burning crusade |
| 20:09.25 | Kirkburn|afk | They do!? |
| 20:09.29 | Fisker | nice |
| 20:09.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Source please :) |
| 20:09.42 | jaxdahl | blue tracker, beta tag, 'guild banks, lack of tools' |
| 20:10.14 | cladhaire | link =) |
| 20:10.27 | jaxdahl | i browse on one computer and irc on the other :( |
| 20:10.37 | jaxdahl | there you go: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/beta/920214.htm |
| 20:10.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Great to hear |
| 20:13.52 | Corrodias | "but it is now scheduled to be added in a future content patch after the expansion ships." |
| 20:14.11 | Corrodias | breaking news: WoW version 3.06 will add the all-new guild bank UI! |
| 20:14.44 | jaxdahl | hmm, druids will need 150 riding skill to be able to train flight form, but when they do, they'll get 225 skill |
| 20:15.07 | zenzelezz | Corrodias: and when it comes it will have 25 slots + 2 bag slots =D |
| 20:15.13 | Corrodias | yay free upgrades. or is it so free? muahaha |
| 20:15.20 | jaxdahl | 10000g for the 1st bag slot |
| 20:15.24 | jaxdahl | 25000g for the 2nd bag slot |
| 20:15.42 | jaxdahl | Corrodias, yes, 225 is free for druids |
| 20:15.57 | jaxdahl | aside from the cost for training flying form |
| 20:17.48 | Corrodias | there's a good question, how much that costs |
| 20:18.12 | Corrodias | it rather surprises me that they get riding skill, though. they don't get it for training Travel Form. |
| 20:19.26 | jaxdahl | hrm |
| 20:19.29 | jaxdahl | still confusing me |
| 20:19.49 | jaxdahl | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/en/89459153.htm |
| 20:20.01 | jaxdahl | nvm |
| 20:20.42 | Corrodias | that's a contradictory post |
| 20:20.56 | Corrodias | it suggests that things will be how they are now, but then goes on to say that they won't be for druids |
| 20:21.16 | Corrodias | but i say this without knowing enough about the current system |
| 20:21.30 | Corrodias | maybe we do get riding skill free with Travel Form now. we didn't back when i was 40. |
| 20:23.24 | Kirkburn|afk | What? |
| 20:23.31 | Kirkburn|afk | It doesn't mention Travel Form |
| 20:23.59 | Kirkburn|afk | It's just saying you will need to have 150 skill to get Flying Mount skill |
| 20:24.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Nothing to do with travel form |
| 20:24.16 | Corrodias | i misread the first paragraph |
| 20:24.24 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 20:24.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Another fireworks factory has gone up in flames :/ |
| 20:25.25 | Corrodias | "Just like the paladin and warlock mounts, the Druid will receive the necessary riding skill when getting the flight form ability when it is trained." |
| 20:25.38 | Corrodias | i am thinking of the ground mounts |
| 20:25.38 | Kirkburn|afk | (in East Sussex UK, footage on BBC website) |
| 20:25.48 | jaxdahl | looks like they are dropping 150 riding down to 600g |
| 20:25.50 | jaxdahl | from 900g |
| 20:26.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Travel form isn't a mount techinically |
| 20:26.09 | jaxdahl | neither is flying form |
| 20:26.11 | Corrodias | neither is a bird |
| 20:26.22 | Corrodias | *being a bird |
| 20:26.29 | Kirkburn|afk | Well it is for Blizz, obviously :P |
| 20:26.51 | Corrodias | ah, yes. those birds are out there riding the air! |
| 20:26.55 | Kirkburn|afk | (circular argument ftw, I know) |
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| 20:54.38 | cladhaire | How do I change the size/anchor of the NormalTexture of a button? |
| 20:59.12 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: ping? |
| 21:00.25 | Fisker | yay |
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| 21:29.10 | Osagasu | Is it just me, or does the new Curse layout confuse anyone elsE? |
| 21:30.09 | Cairenn | it isn't just you |
| 21:30.28 | VoidRaider | haha |
| 21:30.53 | ckknight | yea, honestly, it's freaky confusing. I need things clear and laid out, not something to fight against but to work with |
| 21:30.58 | VoidRaider | it's half of the world with you |
| 21:31.45 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:31.47 | ckknight | only half... |
| 21:31.48 | VoidRaider | Well the only site I use is Worldofwar and WoWInterface :) |
| 21:31.52 | VoidRaider | sites* |
| 21:32.19 | Osagasu | A few addons I use only update on curse... I swear I spent 20 good minutes looking for the files section, even AFTER I read the siteguide thing |
| 21:32.33 | VoidRaider | ahh :/ |
| 21:32.46 | jaxdahl | i'm getting a TINY scroll bar on the middle panel |
| 21:33.15 | [Cu]Werik | But you have found it, eventurally! |
| 21:33.48 | AnduinLothar | Cairenn: pong |
| 21:33.55 | jaxdahl | i hate the new design |
| 21:34.07 | jaxdahl | so much space sucked up by the right column |
| 21:34.14 | Osagasu | o.o |
| 21:34.25 | Osagasu | Anduin... didn't Cair do that like.. 6 hours ago? |
| 21:34.39 | AnduinLothar | so.. |
| 21:34.44 | jaxdahl | Osagasu, took me like 15 seconds.. click 'world of warcraft', click 'addons' under 'files' |
| 21:34.50 | Cairenn | that's fine :) |
| 21:35.03 | AnduinLothar | and no, it was 30min ago |
| 21:35.21 | Cairenn | the most recent one ;) |
| 21:36.38 | jaxdahl | looks like they updated the background downloader data again.. it's up to 489MB from 468MB |
| 21:41.49 | nevcairiel | i am at nearly 700mb |
| 21:41.51 | nevcairiel | stupid US |
| 21:44.02 | jaxdahl | i wonder how much outland data, if any, is included |
| 21:45.44 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 21:45.53 | Cairenn | that'll all be on the BC cds |
| 21:46.29 | Mery | just because they reordered their mpq's so that they have "base.mpq" and "expansion.mpq" why would they send it to you if you don't need it? |
| 21:46.31 | VoidRaider | yeah, for these that will bother to buy it haha :P |
| 21:46.47 | jaxdahl | well |
| 21:46.55 | jaxdahl | they will, at some point, need to include new models |
| 21:47.06 | jaxdahl | for weapons/armor/draenei/blood elves |
| 21:47.08 | VoidRaider | but I guess 99.9% of the players will :P |
| 21:47.09 | jaxdahl | mounts, etc |
| 21:47.24 | Mery | that stuff may be in it |
| 21:47.44 | VoidRaider | Yeah, I think it is |
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| 21:48.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Anything that can be seen without going to Outland will almost certainly be in this patch |
| 21:49.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Weapon models, player models, armour |
| 21:49.19 | jaxdahl | yea, there are at least some new draenei models on the PTR |
| 21:49.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Caverns of Time, too, I guess |
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| 22:10.56 | Esamynn | anyone in here know any perl? |
| 22:11.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Hey that was weird, the BBC just referred to our game as "WoW", just the acronym. A sign of the popularity I guess ... |
| 22:13.14 | Mery | Hmm according to wowwiki a frame does have an OnEnter handler, but it refused to work untill i changed it to a button, any suggestion why? |
| 22:19.34 | Esamynn | so no perl ppl around? :( |
| 22:19.55 | Cide | Mery: EnableMouse(true) |
| 22:24.02 | Mery | thanks Cide! |
| 22:24.49 | VoidRaider | Gold Perl ? |
| 22:24.54 | VoidRaider | Golden* :P |
| 22:25.14 | Esamynn | ~lart VoidRaider |
| 22:25.23 | VoidRaider | lol :P |
| 22:30.47 | Mery | Cairenn did you just post and deleted it shortly after? (because i saw it in the forum overview but when i clicked the thread it wasn't there)? |
| 22:31.35 | Esamynn | Mery: you probably caught her stealth bumping ;) |
| 22:31.36 | Cairenn | yeah, changed my mind, had clad post instead, since it's his mod |
| 22:31.55 | Esamynn | or not.. .:) |
| 22:31.57 | Mery | Esamynn: they fixed that :) |
| 22:32.07 | Cairenn | Esamynn: stealth bumping doesn't work any more, not that I would know, never having done any such thing myself |
| 22:32.09 | Esamynn | oh really?, I didn't know that |
| 22:33.00 | Mery | but I think (i have no evidence, but it felt that way) Cairenn might have reposted her last post (if she had the last in the thread anyway) and deleted the one before that to bump |
| 22:36.13 | Cairenn | blizz forums dead |
| 22:36.31 | Industrial | whats stealth bumping |
| 22:36.51 | VoidRaider | delete and repost I guess :) |
| 22:37.13 | VoidRaider | Not sure though is that it ? :D |
| 22:39.03 | jaxdahl | Cairenn, got a low bandwidth site ready to go? |
| 22:39.11 | Cairenn | as always |
| 22:39.52 | Cairenn | it used to be you could post something, which bumped the thread, then delete the post, hence the "stealth" |
| 22:40.27 | jaxdahl | Cairenn, a suggestion, if i may -- provide direct download links to each of the top 10 addons on the main site page |
| 22:40.30 | VoidRaider | oh :) |
| 22:40.50 | Cairenn | jaxdahl: they're there |
| 22:41.05 | jaxdahl | just want to make sure that'd be available on low-bw |
| 22:41.10 | jaxdahl | VoidRaider, it has to do with how threads and posts are treated |
| 22:41.37 | Cairenn | you can see LBW right now, go to the very bottom of the site, there's a dropdown |
| 22:41.45 | Cairenn | you can have it as your default |
| 22:41.49 | jaxdahl | cool |
| 22:42.28 | VoidRaider | Yeah I guess so, I always done that but haven't thought of deleting the post right after, oh well |
| 22:42.55 | Cairenn | lots of folks choose to have that as their default - during patch time, though, we force it |
| 22:43.59 | Cairenn | we'll be going to it late Monday night |
| 22:44.13 | Cairenn | VoidRaider: unfortunately, it doesn't work that way any more |
| 22:44.25 | Cairenn | VoidRaider: now, if you delete your post, the thread drops back to where it had been |
| 22:44.37 | VoidRaider | :/ |
| 22:45.27 | VoidRaider | They're fixing these "awesome" bugs while they have many others to fix haha :P |
| 22:46.20 | VoidRaider | Well you can always let someone bump instead :P |
| 22:46.51 | Cairenn | the only thread I'm really worried about having bumped over the next week or so is the usual one |
| 22:47.04 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=51009087&sid=1 |
| 22:47.34 | VoidRaider | Server is busy :/ |
| 22:47.50 | Esamynn | updates mods, right Cairenn? |
| 22:47.51 | VoidRaider | lol |
| 22:47.56 | jaxdahl | Cairenn, one feature that i love on curse-gaming is that they show the TOC for addons, even different versions of addons.. any chance of implementing that on wowi? |
| 22:47.57 | Cairenn | it's the "updated mods" thread that I always run |
| 22:48.00 | Esamynn | s/updates/updated/ |
| 22:48.20 | Cairenn | jaxdahl: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18 |
| 22:48.23 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:48.31 | jaxdahl | too lazy to register |
| 22:48.51 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag jaxdahl |
| 22:48.59 | purl | ACTION blindsides jaxdahl with an invisible bullet |
| 22:48.59 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 22:49.19 | VoidRaider | rofl |
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| 23:21.31 | jaxdahl | my guild leader is complaining that CT_Barmod and Bottommod 'may or may not be ready for the patch (unlikely as of right now)' |
| 23:21.40 | jaxdahl | BottomBar rather |
| 23:23.08 | Cairenn | Cide would be the one to ask |
| 23:23.29 | jaxdahl | well, i want to suggest alternatives |
| 23:23.32 | Neuro_Medivh | Tell your guildleader to code his own fucking bar then |
| 23:23.40 | Cairenn | Neuro_Medivh: lol |
| 23:23.40 | jaxdahl | i suggested Bongos, but he said he wants something straightforward |
| 23:23.58 | jaxdahl | Neuro_Medivh, rude |
| 23:24.08 | Neuro_Medivh | Yeah, I get that a lot |
| 23:24.16 | Neuro_Medivh | makes a good point though |
| 23:24.25 | Cairenn | jaxdahl: indeed it was, but still amusing in its own fashion |
| 23:24.33 | Neuro_Medivh | especially when Cide is, as we speak, busting his ass trying to fix it |
| 23:24.37 | Cide | I'd love to get them out |
| 23:24.37 | Cairenn | jaxdahl: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6342 is another option |
| 23:25.02 | Cide | but yes, I have ~15 mods to get ready, plus a ton of school shit and two sites to update |
| 23:25.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Exactly |
| 23:25.25 | Cide | so no, not going to have all of them ready on patch day |
| 23:25.29 | jaxdahl | yeah, i told my guild leader CT was trying to do too much |
| 23:25.47 | Neuro_Medivh | No, it's a matter of the code just takes awhile to get ready |
| 23:25.52 | Neuro_Medivh | especially when it changes |
| 23:26.10 | Cide | unfortunately that breaks our streak of having all mods compliant with new changes on patch day since day one... :/ |
| 23:26.29 | Cide | and I wouldn't say we're trying to do too much :) |
| 23:26.30 | Neuro_Medivh | God, Cide, how totally unprofessional |
| 23:26.36 | Cairenn | Cide: *hug* |
| 23:26.37 | Cide | Neuro_Medivh: I know |
| 23:26.42 | jaxdahl | yeah, you've conditioned people to expect your mods to be updated every TOC change |
| 23:26.43 | Neuro_Medivh | how do you expect people to buy your product then? |
| 23:26.56 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, wait |
| 23:26.59 | Neuro_Medivh | it's FREE |
| 23:27.02 | Cairenn | Cide: there hasn't been any patch with near the sweeping changes of this one, if folks can't understand it, well ... |
| 23:27.11 | jaxdahl | Neuro_Medivh, ctscreenshots or whatever it isn't is partially free |
| 23:27.20 | Cide | jaxdahl: it's totally free |
| 23:27.20 | jaxdahl | is* |
| 23:27.25 | jaxdahl | Cide, not all the features |
| 23:27.32 | Cide | that's irrelevant |
| 23:27.36 | Cide | bandwidth costs money |
| 23:27.41 | Neuro_Medivh | And those features work just fine |
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| 23:27.54 | Cide | Cairenn: which, on the other hand, puts more emphasis on working mods :( |
| 23:28.17 | Neuro_Medivh | I still use CT mod, even incomplete |
| 23:28.28 | Cairenn | Cide: I know =/ |
| 23:28.28 | Neuro_Medivh | it's been the backbone of my UI since beta |
| 23:29.58 | Cide | which is precisely why I'd want to get everything ready |
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| 23:30.32 | Cairenn | Cide: there's only so much you can do, everyone in *this* channel understands that, even if the masses don't |
| 23:30.48 | Cide | our users are the ones that take the hit though |
| 23:30.53 | [Cu]Werik | There will be dozens of new bugs as well:) |
| 23:30.55 | Cairenn | unfortunately, it's the masses you'll be hearing from =/ |
| 23:31.20 | jaxdahl | oh, believe me, we appreciate you providing these addons for free |
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| 23:33.10 | Tain | People are predisposed to extremes. Every little thing that doesn't work exactly the way it did yesterday will be met with (some) cries of doom and gloom and how unfair it is for Blizzard to purposely punish its players. |
| 23:33.44 | ckknight | well, Blizzard hates its users. |
| 23:33.45 | Tain | The best thing to do is tune it out. |
| 23:34.04 | ckknight | and it's just a sick joke to break UIs every patch |
| 23:34.08 | ckknight | </sarcasm> |
| 23:34.14 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 23:34.43 | Tain | They sit around a conference table passing a joint back and forth saying, "Ok ok I got it! We change the name of every frame by one character!" |
| 23:34.45 | Mery | I'd bet 100g that UI and macros will turn into a bigger whine, quitting and flame forum than it was when the changes were announced |
| 23:35.00 | SB1-Laptop | I'd bet $100 USD on iut |
| 23:35.01 | Tain | Of course, Mery. But it will die down. |
| 23:35.01 | SB1-Laptop | *it |
| 23:35.04 | Cairenn | Mery: not taking that bet |
| 23:35.20 | Cairenn | Mery: I want to run away from the forum(s) for about a month |
| 23:35.33 | ckknight | agreed. |
| 23:35.40 | [Cu]Werik | Ban yourself, it worked like a charm for me |
| 23:35.55 | ckknight | "Zomg Ace2 is blocking teh macroz!" |
| 23:36.12 | Cairenn | [Cu]Werik: lol |
| 23:36.20 | jaxdahl | you will hear cries of 'decursive has been banned', and rebuttals of 'oh, you guys said that about ct_ra when they took mana conserve out', then the counter-rebuttals 'but, really, decursive IS banned now', then the counter-rebuttal-admittances 'oh, it IS banned, damn you blizzard!' |
| 23:36.25 | [Cu]Werik | Didn't read forums since months now |
| 23:36.28 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 23:36.58 | [Cu]Werik | My life is more complete than ever |
| 23:37.53 | Mery | well the interface forum is usually a nice place - just not when features get taken away |
| 23:38.09 | Cairenn | I'm addicted, what can I say? |
| 23:38.38 | Thunder_Child | so sad.... http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/50898715.htm |
| 23:39.00 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:39.40 | Mery | wow |
| 23:39.54 | Mery | and I can't even tell if he (OP) is serious or a troll |
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| 23:54.41 | Mery | Good Night all! |
| 23:54.48 | Thunder_Child | night Mery |
| 23:54.59 | Cairenn | night Mery |
