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| 00:18.52 | TuX_BuBling | hey |
| 00:19.04 | TuX_BuBling | i'm doing a little addon for wow |
| 00:19.15 | Malivil | and i have little knowledge of lua, this is perfect |
| 00:19.28 | Malivil | How can we help? |
| 00:19.37 | TuX_BuBling | i'm doing a little dropdown menu |
| 00:19.42 | Malivil | mmk |
| 00:19.56 | TuX_BuBling | let me show you some code |
| 00:20.49 | Malivil | Did you post on the wowi forums, because i found a topic about someone with a dropdown menu prblem |
| 00:21.39 | TuX_BuBling | http://rafb.net/paste/results/xTl39877.html |
| 00:21.52 | TuX_BuBling | ok here is a sample of my drop down |
| 00:21.57 | TuX_BuBling | my menu is ok |
| 00:21.59 | TuX_BuBling | :) |
| 00:22.12 | Malivil | k, then what's up? |
| 00:22.20 | TuX_BuBling | what is wrong is the info.func |
| 00:22.46 | TuX_BuBling | i'm calling the menu from a minimap button |
| 00:23.12 | Maldivia | I think you want: |
| 00:23.15 | Maldivia | info.func = pc_teleport_city; |
| 00:23.36 | TuX_BuBling | how do i pass the name of the city like this ;) |
| 00:23.39 | TuX_BuBling | ?? |
| 00:23.39 | Malivil | will it automatically do only horse cities though? |
| 00:23.45 | Malivil | *horde |
| 00:23.49 | TuX_BuBling | no this is for mage |
| 00:23.51 | Maldivia | info.arg1 = CITIES_HORDE[i]; |
| 00:24.10 | TuX_BuBling | oooh |
| 00:24.23 | TuX_BuBling | this will pass arg1 to func ? |
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| 00:25.13 | TuX_BuBling | right? |
| 00:25.30 | Malivil | Uhhh |
| 00:25.36 | Malivil | I got lost a while back |
| 00:25.43 | Malivil | The other mal will have to help, sorry |
| 00:25.56 | TuX_BuBling | Oo |
| 00:25.59 | TuX_BuBling | nop |
| 00:26.59 | TuX_BuBling | function pc_teleport_city(target) |
| 00:26.59 | TuX_BuBling | local spell = string.format( TELEPORT, target ); |
| 00:26.59 | TuX_BuBling | CastSpellByName(spell) |
| 00:26.59 | TuX_BuBling | end |
| 00:27.04 | Malivil | what is pc_teleport_city? Is that a built in function, or from some other library? |
| 00:27.09 | TuX_BuBling | ths is my function |
| 00:27.23 | TuX_BuBling | no fancy thing |
| 00:27.23 | Malivil | mhmm |
| 00:27.36 | Maldivia | from UIDromDownMenu.lua: |
| 00:27.37 | Maldivia | info.arg1 = [ANYTHING] -- This is the first argument used by info.func |
| 00:27.46 | TuX_BuBling | ok let me check |
| 00:28.05 | Malivil | Yea, im just not gonna try helping anymore, because i forgot all of what i knew |
| 00:28.22 | TuX_BuBling | actually the problem is when i put as in my example it tries to launch the spell right when i click the minimap button |
| 00:28.51 | TuX_BuBling | info.func = pc_teleport_city(); |
| 00:28.58 | Maldivia | no, without the parenthesis |
| 00:28.59 | TuX_BuBling | or info.func = pc_teleport_city; |
| 00:29.01 | TuX_BuBling | ok |
| 00:29.04 | Maldivia | you want to pass a reference to the function |
| 00:29.19 | Maldivia | if you have the parenthesis, it will call the function, and set info.func to the return value |
| 00:29.51 | Malivil | Ahh, so info is a general array? |
| 00:30.04 | Malivil | or... something liek that |
| 00:30.15 | Malivil | yea nvm |
| 00:30.29 | Maldivia | info is just the name if a table you use to pass all the arguments to the UIDropDownMenu_AddButton function |
| 00:31.16 | Maldivia | instead of the function having 29 arguments, it takes a table, that contains a subset of those values |
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| 00:33.01 | Malivil | oh, cool |
| 00:33.14 | Malivil | I program in Java, so its all different |
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| 00:34.16 | Maldivia | consider tables as a mix of an ArrayList and a Hashma |
| 00:34.22 | TuX_BuBling | thx dude |
| 00:34.27 | TuX_BuBling | works like a charm :) |
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| 00:35.47 | Malivil | I'm still learning Java, haven't gotten to Hashma yet. |
| 00:35.53 | Malivil | But thanks for the reference |
| 00:37.33 | Maldivia | Hashmap |
| 00:38.03 | TuX_BuBling | now need to make a tooltip on the title that the number of teleport runes in bag ^^ |
| 00:39.19 | Maldivia | Malivil: a Hashmap is like an array, but instead of using intergers in sequential order, you can use any objects to make one-to-one pairins between a key and a value |
| 00:40.06 | Maldivia | Forinstance a dictionary, where you have a word (key), and a description of that word (value) |
| 00:40.50 | Malivil | oh, thats sick |
| 00:41.31 | Malivil | I noticed that tables have on-the-fly definings that don't need types, thats kinda convenient |
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| 00:42.14 | Malivil | I'm gonna play some CS:S, ill cyall later |
| 00:48.17 | Corrodias | maps are -damn- sick. |
| 00:52.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 01:00.02 | TuX_BuBling | what's the if statement? |
| 01:00.11 | TuX_BuBling | if else if end |
| 01:00.21 | TuX_BuBling | or if .. elif .. end |
| 01:00.28 | TuX_BuBling | or something else? |
| 01:01.38 | Maldivia | if exp then something() elseif exp then somethingElse() else blah() end |
| 01:01.43 | ckknight | elseif, TuX_BuBling |
| 01:01.52 | ckknight | if ... elseif ... else ... end |
| 01:02.02 | ckknight | Maldivia's right |
| 01:02.19 | TuX_BuBling | thx |
| 01:02.57 | Maldivia | The precise syntax: if exp then block {elseif exp then block} [else block] end |
| 01:03.28 | Maldivia | where [] is optional, and {} is an optional and repeatable |
| 01:03.59 | Maldivia | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.4.4 |
| 01:04.31 | TuX_BuBling | does info.tooltipText needs info.tooltipTitle? |
| 01:05.22 | Maldivia | yes |
| 01:05.26 | Maldivia | if ( this.tooltipTitle ) then |
| 01:05.27 | Maldivia | GameTooltip_AddNewbieTip(this.tooltipTitle, 1.0, 1.0, 1.0, this.tooltipText, 1); |
| 01:05.27 | Maldivia | end |
| 01:06.30 | TuX_BuBling | well |
| 01:06.36 | TuX_BuBling | in a dropdown menu |
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| 01:09.50 | ckknight | Blizzard's dropdowns are not fun to work with. |
| 01:10.34 | ckknight | that's why I wrote Dewdrop, to deal with all that :-P |
| 01:11.24 | TuX_BuBling | that's a very simple one :) |
| 01:11.48 | TuX_BuBling | i just want to show a tooltip on a title button in a dropdown |
| 01:12.17 | Maldivia | Tux: you need both title and text, as shown above |
| 01:12.26 | TuX_BuBling | things that should work with info.tooltipTitle and info.tooltipText |
| 01:12.51 | TuX_BuBling | can Title be empty? |
| 01:13.07 | Maldivia | you can try info.tooltipTitle = "" |
| 01:13.20 | TuX_BuBling | doesn't work |
| 01:13.33 | ckknight | just make the title the text instead, and leave text blank |
| 01:14.47 | TuX_BuBling | actually that doesn't work |
| 01:14.57 | TuX_BuBling | even with text in title |
| 01:15.07 | TuX_BuBling | it doesn't show anything |
| 01:15.22 | Maldivia | ahh yeah, forgot about that annoyance |
| 01:15.50 | Maldivia | tooltips for dropdown menues, only shows if the SHOW_NEWBIE_TIPS setting is enabled |
| 01:16.15 | TuX_BuBling | oh |
| 01:16.35 | TuX_BuBling | is that possible to activate it from the addon? |
| 01:16.52 | Maldivia | SHOW_NEWBIE_TIPS = "1! |
| 01:16.55 | Maldivia | SHOW_NEWBIE_TIPS = "1" |
| 01:18.00 | Maldivia | but people might be a bit upset, if you start changing their UI settings :) |
| 01:19.32 | TuX_BuBling | yes and even with that doesn't work :( |
| 01:20.31 | Maldivia | weird |
| 01:20.42 | Maldivia | works for my drop down menues |
| 01:20.49 | TuX_BuBling | anyway |
| 01:20.53 | TuX_BuBling | it's late |
| 01:20.58 | TuX_BuBling | i'll try later ;) |
| 01:21.05 | TuX_BuBling | time to sleep now :) |
| 01:21.07 | TuX_BuBling | nite all |
| 01:21.11 | TuX_BuBling | and thx for the help |
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| 01:58.15 | kergoth | End, whats the status of the yatlas rewrite, out of curiosity? |
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| 02:37.55 | ckknight | anybody know the taint issue with QuestLog_OnEvent? |
| 02:46.27 | Tem | probably hooking GetQuestTitleText or whatever the function is |
| 02:46.40 | Tem | (to insert quest level into the return value) |
| 02:47.52 | Tem | humm |
| 02:48.01 | Tem | can Shamans learn 1h axes? |
| 02:49.05 | End | yes |
| 02:49.16 | Tem | where? |
| 02:49.16 | Kaso | what'd you know, TooltipTextRight retains it's last set value even if it isnt visable :< |
| 02:49.23 | Tem | (alliance side) |
| 02:49.26 | Tem | IF? |
| 02:49.28 | End | I have nfi |
| 02:49.34 | End | my shaman is horde live :P |
| 02:49.43 | Tem | mine is alliance beta |
| 02:49.48 | End | yeah, I guess that |
| 02:49.55 | Tem | btw, LFG: The Legend of Stalvan |
| 02:57.39 | Kaso | i just noticed i have a melee crit gem in my belt |
| 02:57.41 | Kaso | im a priest :< |
| 02:57.54 | zenzelezz | dagger priest obviously |
| 02:59.21 | Kaso | I thought it was Spell Crit + Stam |
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| 02:59.35 | Kaso | turns out casters arent allowed gems that give crit and stam |
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| 03:29.09 | abug | ~nerd |
| 03:29.18 | purl | rumour has it, nerd is a sexy person, who will someday be rich! |
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| 03:39.05 | zenzelezz | lies |
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| 04:01.33 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, anyone know of a bug with using Create Healthstone in a /castsequence? |
| 04:02.51 | Maldivia | yes |
| 04:02.57 | Maldivia | fixed in next build |
| 04:03.09 | Garoun|Loupana | k k, that would explain my difficulty :P |
| 04:03.27 | Maldivia | you can easily cast it from the sequence, but the sequence won't continue |
| 04:03.42 | Garoun|Loupana | I tried it, and it wouldn't cast at all |
| 04:03.58 | malreth | let's see if anyone notices... |
| 04:04.03 | Maldivia | Create Healthstone (Major)() |
| 04:04.26 | Maldivia | the () in the end is very important, since the spell name contains parenthesis itself |
| 04:04.32 | Garoun|Loupana | ah, maybe taht's the problem :P I forgot it was bugged like my Faerie Fire(Feral) |
| 04:05.28 | Maldivia | malreth: what should that do ? it can't change the return value anyway! |
| 04:06.07 | malreth | ssssh... It's all marketing, anyways. |
| 04:06.47 | malreth | boring |
| 04:07.17 | Maldivia | go smack Cedric... |
| 04:07.17 | malreth | I had such hopes for Gilius... but it seems he fizzled out after about a day |
| 04:11.10 | malreth | oooh... Cedric... |
| 04:11.34 | malreth | right, the guy who asked for something and then poo-pooed on what he got |
| 04:17.00 | malreth | "Wah wah wah.. I already wrote an addon and I admit that it's a bloated mess because I can't understand how to code using the new secure templates because I'm too busy smoking crack and my pussy hurts! Waaaah!" |
| 04:17.25 | malreth | There... I flamed him for you, Maldivia. |
| 04:17.26 | Thunder_Child | mal...you really hsould take better care of yourself |
| 04:17.30 | Thunder_Child | should* |
| 04:17.39 | ckknight_ | I saw Cedric's post. |
| 04:17.41 | ckknight_ | yea... |
| 04:17.53 | ckknight | he deserved that rant, malreth |
| 04:17.55 | Maldivia | :) |
| 04:19.41 | Maldivia | "and the code that I had to write is very bloated with conditional macros. (i.e. macrotext1 through macrotext44 and a frame with some 46+ states defined)" <-- How is it even possible to such simple functionality to use 44 lines in a macro and 46 states? |
| 04:21.29 | Tain | hah hah wow Sean Connery turned down the part of Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings movies. |
| 04:21.37 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 04:22.01 | Tain | I love Sean Connery but I can't help but be glad. |
| 04:22.23 | Thunder_Child | he could have done an old hobbit though...that would have been good |
| 04:22.26 | Tem | ~sean connery |
| 04:22.35 | Maldivia | but... William Shatner is supposed to play Gandalf (userfriendly :) |
| 04:23.08 | Tem | ~emulate sean connery |
| 04:23.10 | purl | The day is mine! |
| 04:23.15 | Tem | :) |
| 04:23.17 | Tem | ~botsnack |
| 04:23.17 | purl | Tem: :) |
| 04:23.23 | zenzelezz | did they say why he turned it down? |
| 04:23.24 | Tain | I'll play your game, Saruman! |
| 04:23.35 | Tain | He said he didn't "get it." |
| 04:23.42 | Tain | He didn't "get" the story. |
| 04:24.11 | malreth | I couldn't understand Little Shop of Horrors and turned down the part of Orin the Dentist |
| 04:24.12 | zenzelezz | I was rather hoping he said no because he disagreed to the books being turned into movies |
| 04:24.15 | Maldivia | The Hobbit without Jackson, won't be "the real deal" |
| 04:24.41 | Tain | Ehn someone else could do it. |
| 04:24.45 | Tain | I'd rather see Jackson. |
| 04:24.53 | Tain | But it isn't all about the director. |
| 04:25.02 | malreth | I was all, "Talking plant... From outer space... That eats... What?" |
| 04:25.17 | Maldivia | True, it's not all about a director... |
| 04:25.36 | Maldivia | for movies like that, it's about a vision, and about getting that vision on film |
| 04:25.49 | Thunder_Child | the hobbit is the bets of the books anyways |
| 04:26.02 | Thunder_Child | best* |
| 04:26.20 | zenzelezz | I utterly disagree, but that's a matter of opinion thing only |
| 04:26.20 | Maldivia | the hobbit and lotr are also written on two totally different premises... |
| 04:26.29 | Tain | The Hobbit is the most condusive to a single standalone movie. |
| 04:26.42 | zenzelezz | his best book, in my opinion, is Silmarillion, closely followed by LotR |
| 04:26.54 | Maldivia | have to agree on silmrillion |
| 04:27.24 | malreth | How do you spell that? |
| 04:27.39 | Tain | Silmarillion is to LotR as Encyclopedia Britannica is to Forrest Gump. |
| 04:28.07 | Thunder_Child | one is living and the other isnt? |
| 04:28.29 | Thunder_Child | ah, one is fact and the other is fake... |
| 04:28.35 | Maldivia | tain: well, not if you do a size comparison |
| 04:30.40 | Tem | I never read the whole of Silmarillion |
| 04:31.02 | Tem | actually, I never really got past the part at the very beginning where they sing the universe into existance |
| 04:31.12 | Tain | heh heh yeah |
| 04:31.17 | zenzelezz | I had a hard time with that the first time I read it |
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| 04:31.31 | Osagasu | I got to the part about the dwarves, I think |
| 04:31.41 | Tain | It's just not comparable to The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. It's completely different. |
| 04:31.55 | Tain | Which isn't to say it is better or worse, it's apples and oranges. |
| 04:34.38 | Tem | How do you like that orange, Bob? |
| 04:34.47 | Tem | "It's not as sweet as the apple I had earlier" |
| 04:35.04 | zenzelezz | I think The Hobbit and LotR are far enough apart to not be comparable also; even if they use some of the action from The Hobbit as background for LotR |
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| 04:45.34 | norgs | any miners in here? |
| 04:46.12 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 04:46.31 | norgs | just want to ask a quick question about thorium veins |
| 04:47.01 | zenzelezz | yes? |
| 04:47.22 | norgs | do you know if rich thorium always spawns at the same spot? (like the node doesn't randomly spawn as rich one time, and then next time at that same location spawn a small one) |
| 04:47.49 | zenzelezz | they can spawn as another type, but not as a small one |
| 04:48.04 | norgs | another type? |
| 04:48.18 | zenzelezz | IIRC they can be truesilver |
| 04:49.32 | zenzelezz | in some zones they can also be Dark Iron |
| 04:49.48 | norgs | ok, so the same node will sometimes pop up as a rich thorium or a truesilver or a dark iron... |
| 04:50.23 | norgs | but never as a small thorium? |
| 04:50.34 | zenzelezz | not in my experience at least |
| 04:51.04 | norgs | any other nodes that behave like the rich thorium node? |
| 04:51.30 | zenzelezz | in what way, that it can spawn as a different type? |
| 04:51.37 | norgs | yeah |
| 04:52.24 | zenzelezz | think most do... gold, silver, truesilver are alternative spawns to some |
| 04:52.31 | zenzelezz | doesn't the wiki have any info about this? |
| 04:52.40 | norgs | hmmm - good idea |
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| 04:58.16 | norgs | yeah, the wiki doesn't have this info as far as i can tell |
| 04:58.26 | Inside | truesilver is a rare spawn off of mithril nodes. |
| 04:58.30 | Inside | I think. |
| 04:59.08 | Thunder_Child | wiki doesnt need it because thats the kind of thing you can get from thott |
| 04:59.11 | Inside | tin=>silver, iron=>gold, mithril=>true silver |
| 04:59.13 | Thunder_Child | or sites like that |
| 04:59.13 | norgs | it lists silver as rare of tin, gold = rare iron, truesilver = rare mithril and that's about that |
| 04:59.25 | Inside | Hmmm |
| 04:59.44 | Inside | as far as I know, I think from my experience that a node that is set to spawn a certain kind is always that kind. |
| 04:59.50 | Inside | that, or its rare spawn. |
| 05:00.03 | norgs | nothing about rich thorium spawning as dark iron etc |
| 05:01.37 | Thunder_Child | if you want drops you go to places like this http://www.thottbot.com/?i=5903 |
| 05:01.42 | zenzelezz | well, they do alternate (randomly) between rich thorium and dark iron in Burning Steppes |
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| 05:31.35 | abug | ~rabid |
| 05:31.53 | abug | ~rabies |
| 05:32.25 | abug | ~murder |
| 05:32.45 | abug | ~eat |
| 05:33.37 | Nom- | ~moo |
| 05:33.38 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 05:33.54 | abug | ~badger |
| 05:33.56 | purl | http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ |
| 05:34.09 | abug | ~footballbadgers |
| 05:34.38 | abug | purl, footballbadgers is http://www.footballbadgers.com/ |
| 05:34.40 | purl | abug: okay |
| 05:35.09 | abug | ~tunak |
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| 05:36.23 | abug | ~heal |
| 05:39.29 | abug | ~banana |
| 05:39.31 | purl | hmm... banana is a fruit, or banana.com, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/lucio/banana.txt |
| 05:39.36 | abug | ~bananaphone |
| 05:42.01 | zenzelezz | I hate to tell you abug, but there are more fun things to do than play with a bot |
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| 05:46.55 | abug | :( |
| 05:47.10 | abug | brings back memories of the old battle.net days |
| 05:50.42 | Thunder_Child | see zenzelezz, thats exactly the point, bots dont bitch back |
| 05:50.54 | Thunder_Child | :) |
| 05:54.59 | zenzelezz | ~stupid bot |
| 05:55.07 | purl | Stupid human. |
| 05:55.08 | zenzelezz | meh :-( |
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| 06:24.41 | ckknight | hey everybody, I wrote my own version of TaintMap, with a few things changed and a few things improved and such. You can get it at http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/TaintChecker or http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=TaintChecker/ |
| 06:29.23 | Corrodias | i'm familiar enough with my taint that i need no map |
| 06:29.55 | ckknight | basically, it checks the taint of all objects, then allows a comparison between two times (e.g. before and after an addon loads). |
| 06:34.31 | abug | does it come with a cupholder? |
| 06:38.01 | abug | ~pants |
| 06:38.03 | purl | Allows an individual to connect an internal LAN to the Internet.. URL: http://www.vu.union.edu/~pants/ |
| 06:38.21 | abug | ~QQ |
| 06:38.22 | purl | dpkg: touch me there agian and I'll scream! |
| 06:38.49 | abug | ~octopussy |
| 06:39.54 | abug | purl, octopussy is I see what you did there... |
| 06:39.55 | purl | abug: okay |
| 06:40.00 | abug | ~octopussy |
| 06:40.02 | purl | rumour has it, octopussy is I see what you did there... |
| 06:40.27 | abug | purl, octopussy is <reply> I see what you did there... |
| 06:40.28 | purl | ...but octopussy is already something else... |
| 06:40.33 | abug | do it |
| 06:40.41 | abug | purl, do it |
| 06:40.42 | purl | ACTION does it. |
| 06:40.42 | zenzelezz | you really do play too much with the bot o_O |
| 06:40.48 | Thunder_Child | purl, no, octopussy is <reply> I see what you did there... |
| 06:40.49 | purl | Thunder_Child: okay |
| 06:41.19 | abug | ~octopussy |
| 06:41.20 | purl | I see what you did there... |
| 06:41.42 | Inside | <_< |
| 06:43.54 | Tem | ~emulate sean connery |
| 06:43.56 | purl | The day is mine! |
| 06:44.05 | Tem | ~botsnack |
| 06:44.05 | purl | :), Tem |
| 06:44.49 | abug | ~emulate spock |
| 06:44.50 | purl | quite logical, captain. |
| 06:47.14 | abug | lawl muck covered drape still has no cooldown |
| 06:47.34 | Tem | muck covered drape? |
| 06:47.43 | abug | the one that reduces aggro when you click it |
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| 06:48.25 | abug | sporeggar honored item |
| 06:48.44 | Thunder_Child | ability + name = wtf was blizz thinking |
| 06:49.45 | abug | maybe the NPCs don't want to get dirty they stop attacking you |
| 06:49.54 | abug | er so they stop |
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| 06:54.53 | Thunder_Child | dont quit your day job abug. :) |
| 06:55.06 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.11 | Inside | You don't do me any good. |
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| 06:58.50 | Tem | what's it do? |
| 06:59.41 | Inside | It's supposed to describe the various units in my program |
| 06:59.49 | Inside | but I suck at making notes. |
| 06:59.53 | Inside | I scribble a bit and then run off. |
| 07:00.01 | Inside | and then I switch between IDE + iRC + internet over and over |
| 07:00.04 | Inside | and nothing ever gets done. |
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| 07:19.34 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
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| 07:25.15 | Thunder_Child | is there something new about linking items to chat from a item database? |
| 07:25.27 | Thunder_Child | err..stoping that from hapening |
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| 07:29.00 | abug | lol muck cloak triggers the trinket that gives mana back for shaman spells during combat...and since it has no cooldown... |
| 07:29.54 | Thunder_Child | doesnt the trinket have a cooldown though? |
| 07:30.01 | abug | nope heh |
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| 07:32.20 | Kaso | oh man awesomeness |
| 07:33.29 | Elkano | <3 patch mirrors :) |
| 07:36.28 | Kaso | Guy gets banned from wow, threatens suicide in reply to blizzard, they give him a counciling hotline and ring the local police to check up on him, Now, a second person thinks this is a good idea, he takes up it a step, and threatens to kill his family as well, again blizzard recomend couciling, and send the police around, he now has to attend court ordered counciling: http://digg.com/gaming_news/Banned_WoW_player_thretens_Blizzard_with_suicid |
| 07:37.18 | zenzelezz | link got cropped |
| 07:37.44 | Thunder_Child | put an e at the end, works fine |
| 07:37.48 | Thunder_Child | http://digg.com/gaming_news/Banned_WoW_player_thretens_Blizzard_with_suicide |
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| 07:40.55 | Nickenyfiken | so, can anyone tell me how to convert my addon to TBC without and TBC account? |
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| 07:41.49 | Kaso | Nickenyfiken |
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| 07:41.59 | Nickenyfiken | yes? |
| 07:42.06 | Kaso | the PTR is on wow 2.0.1 aside from two small changes its the same |
| 07:42.39 | Nickenyfiken | yep i tried but i couldnt load some Ace libraries (TBC version) on the PTR |
| 07:43.02 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.13 | Corrodias | it's a scary thing to have to change most of our addons :( |
| 07:43.32 | Corrodias | or at least that's the impression i get |
| 07:43.50 | Kaso | im no ace expert, but i believe that GetLocale() on the PTR returns some odd values that could be mucking it up |
| 07:44.03 | Nickenyfiken | mmm |
| 07:44.04 | Kaso | you might have beter luck in #wowace |
| 07:44.40 | Nickenyfiken | the problem seems to be that the TBC versions of the Ace libs check the version string and it differs from TBC to PTR |
| 07:45.05 | Kaso | also i meant GetBuildInfo() not GetLocale() |
| 07:45.17 | Kaso | yah that could be it |
| 07:45.55 | Kaso | just temporally fiddle with ace so itll work with the PTR build info? |
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| 07:58.46 | Industrial | Any ETA on the 2.0 patch? |
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| 07:59.10 | zenzelezz | nope, it's terrorist-free |
| 07:59.59 | Industrial | :p |
| 08:04.30 | Nickenyfiken | Kaso: yeah maybe, but i dont feel like fiddling today :-P |
| 08:04.56 | Nickenyfiken | its propably only small changes i have to do so i can come up with a new version in an hour tops anyway |
| 08:05.04 | Inside | What to program next. |
| 08:05.07 | Nickenyfiken | and i don't care about those in TBC beta :-P |
| 08:06.03 | Inside | What to add next, the GUI or the physics engine :P |
| 08:06.08 | Inside | All I have so far is the render window <_< |
| 08:08.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | id say go for physics first :P |
| 08:10.05 | Inside | I was thinking I'd do that too. |
| 08:19.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | i wonder why its not allowed to sell virtural items |
| 08:20.01 | |FF|Im2good4u | it might be an cool job to right off |
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| 08:23.57 | Kaelten | how do you setn() in lua 5.1? |
| 08:25.15 | Kaso | you dont |
| 08:28.17 | Tem | Nickenyfiken, we're not supporting Ace1.x in TBC |
| 08:28.25 | Tem | convert to Ace2 |
| 08:28.42 | Tem | ... unless you want to convert Ace1.x to 5.1 |
| 08:28.46 | Nickenyfiken | im not using ace1 |
| 08:28.52 | Nickenyfiken | :-) |
| 08:29.14 | Nickenyfiken | Tem: to be specific Tablet TBC version don't load on PTR |
| 08:29.20 | Kaelten | Tem: actually I'm in process of converting ace1 to TBC :) |
| 08:29.31 | Nickenyfiken | Tablet for TBC* |
| 08:29.40 | Tem | Nickenyfiken, it should work just fine |
| 08:29.45 | Tem | but PTR is weird |
| 08:29.57 | Tem | Kaelten, that works |
| 08:30.02 | Nickenyfiken | yep it is |
| 08:30.14 | Tem | getting an error? |
| 08:30.55 | Nickenyfiken | i dont remember the specific error line but its not making an "alias" or what its called for setn() on PTR |
| 08:31.06 | Nickenyfiken | cus it thinks its vanilla loaded |
| 08:31.34 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 08:31.38 | Nickenyfiken | i can try again... |
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| 08:35.36 | Nickenyfiken | Tem: hmm Tablet may work now, maybe i had a outdated version or its fixed the last week |
| 08:36.30 | Kaelten | Tem: ya I figure it can't be that hard, lol |
| 08:36.33 | Kaelten | just anoying |
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| 08:42.56 | [Wobin] | Do we get more debuff slots in tbc? |
| 08:43.51 | MoonWolf | 40 of them |
| 08:43.53 | MoonWolf | :O |
| 08:48.20 | zenzelezz | more DoTs!! |
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| 08:56.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | u mean 40 icons below a palyer his portrait ? |
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| 09:08.49 | Corrodias | yes, i should get one of those auto-decline addons... |
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| 11:19.46 | Corrodias | can't wait for that big level two zero for my mage |
| 11:20.25 | Corrodias | although at the rate i'm playing, it'll take another week to get up those last 3 and a half levels :P |
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| 11:47.35 | AnduinLothar | Cosmos & WoW 2.0 (LFM): http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=49627573 |
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| 12:17.19 | phyber | somebody shoot the US forum guys for that "welcome to wow forums" bullshit intro page. :/ |
| 12:21.05 | Thunder_Child | ~shoot US forum guy |
| 12:21.14 | purl | ACTION shoots US forum guy in the ear with a spitwad! |
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| 12:28.28 | phyber | ~hug purl |
| 12:28.31 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs purl |
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| 12:47.37 | Kaso | Any particular reason why AddLine or ClearLines() isnt working on GameTooltip when its over an item in the Charater Frame |
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| 12:56.14 | JoshBork1 | Kaso: GameTooltip is populated during OnUpdate |
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| 13:22.08 | JoshBorke | morning |
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| 14:09.07 | Kirkburn|afk | moo |
| 14:09.18 | JoshBorke | oink |
| 14:13.04 | Thunder_Child | baa |
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| 14:48.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | welp i just made a decursive light macro :x |
| 14:49.23 | Thunder_Child | tbc compat? |
| 14:49.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | /castrandom Cure Poison, Remove Curse |
| 14:49.36 | JoshBorke | targetraidmember? |
| 14:49.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus clique |
| 14:50.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | just it's a bit more manual :P |
| 14:50.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | Find debuffed person, target (or possibly focus with some addon) then use that, almost as mindless |
| 14:54.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure those of you who are much more lua-minded than i could find something better, but you know :P |
| 14:54.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Awesome, just bought a 2 gig USB drive for less than £20 :) |
| 14:54.53 | JoshBorke | Kirkburn|afk: nice |
| 14:55.07 | JoshBorke | Mr_Rabies2: doubtful. |
| 14:55.16 | Kirkburn|afk | A 'minor' upgrade to my current drive which cost £35 quid for 32 meg back in the day ... :P |
| 14:55.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got a 1 gb one for like $12 usd |
| 14:55.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | which isnt as good of a deal :[ |
| 14:55.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's small as hell though |
| 14:56.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | its like as big as a paperclip |
| 14:56.10 | Kirkburn|afk | lol |
| 14:56.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and thin as two paperclips |
| 14:56.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Bet you wonder where it's gone half the time :P |
| 14:56.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah i keep it in my wallet |
| 14:56.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Ohh, good idea |
| 14:56.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't put my wallet in my back pocket or i wouldn't though |
| 14:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty much the minimum required circuitry to store that stuff with a super thin plastic case on it |
| 14:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://akiba.ascii24.com/akiba/news/2006/05/11/images/images807681.jpg |
| 14:59.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | except it's 1 gb |
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| 15:00.59 | Thunder_Child | where is the usb connector? |
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| 15:11.31 | Thardal | i hate sticks like that, youre always afraid to break them |
| 15:12.03 | Thardal | http://www.sandisk.co.jp/MediaKit/MediaKit_data/cruzer-micro-512.jpg |
| 15:12.13 | Thardal | you can drive a car over that and its still alright |
| 15:13.04 | Thunder_Child | morning Cairenn |
| 15:14.49 | JoshBorke | morning Cairenn |
| 15:14.56 | JoshBorke | i saw that MazzleUI was finally released |
| 15:15.04 | Cairenn | thank goodness |
| 15:15.14 | Cairenn | I was *so* happy to lock that other stupid thread |
| 15:15.18 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 15:18.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Thunder_Child> where is the usb connector? |
| 15:18.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | its only half a usb thing, it's got some gold contacts on the end in one side and you just put like 1/4 of the drive into the usb port |
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| 16:24.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Hahaha, just looking at a random link - it's shocking what happens if you allow people to have large sigs on forums |
| 16:25.10 | Grine | lol |
| 16:25.31 | Kirkburn|afk | Srsly, 56k warning (and infer what you want from the content) - http://forums.hollywood.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5786044/m/642104009 |
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| 16:26.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Having said that, I can hardly tell what's sig and what's post |
| 16:27.55 | Kirkburn|afk | (if you must know why I was there, it was totally innocent - honest! http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=515134) |
| 16:29.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friend had his sig hosted on my ftp |
| 16:29.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | much lulz ensued when i replaced it with a 1 by 10000 pixel transparent gif |
| 16:30.36 | Kirkburn|afk | \o/ |
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| 16:33.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i also replaced it with a 1600x1200 halo wallpaper once |
| 16:33.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and he hates halo |
| 16:35.22 | Kirkburn|afk | haha |
| 16:35.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Half Life man? |
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| 16:36.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | pc man |
| 16:37.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | hes a ps2 fanboy too |
| 16:38.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | we have a pally with 170 fr tanking ony with like 4 healers |
| 16:38.33 | Kirkburn|afk | It was looking good, but then you destroyed it with the PS2 bit :P |
| 16:38.43 | Grine | blah I can tank Ony with my rogue :P |
| 16:38.58 | Grine | at least p1 with no probs, never really tried |
| 16:39.14 | Grine | <-Tanks when aggro is gained 2nd time in PuG ony :P |
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| 16:44.58 | malreth | Crawford is my new favorite person |
| 16:45.37 | cogwheel | Poor Tauruse... He'll be jealous... |
| 16:45.46 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 16:45.50 | Cairenn|afk | later guys |
| 16:46.05 | cogwheel | cya :) |
| 16:52.06 | malreth | i couldn't help it... i had to troll that guy... he fell for it, too. |
| 16:53.39 | JoshBorke | bb Cairenn|afk |
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| 17:37.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | FELGUARD JUST PULLED AGGRO ON ONY |
| 17:37.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 17:37.58 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 17:38.00 | JoshBorke | that is awesome |
| 17:38.05 | JoshBorke | which phase? |
| 17:38.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1 |
| 17:38.12 | axxo | screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 17:38.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | improved lotp |
| 17:38.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe he had anguish on |
| 17:38.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | not sure |
| 17:38.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but if not bahaha |
| 17:38.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | iit was the greatest death i've ever been a part of |
| 17:39.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i was mangling and ripping instead of just white damaging, with cowers every cooldown |
| 17:41.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | i saw ony turn and look right at me, but it was the felguard she had targeted |
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| 18:20.21 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:20.41 | Antiarc | Morning, ck |
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| 18:32.26 | Tain | The heck with TBC beta, I just got my Lord of the Rings beta email! |
| 18:32.34 | JoshBork1 | woot! |
| 18:32.43 | JoshBork1 | is LoTR MMO? |
| 18:33.21 | Corrodias | let's go kill the balrog! 50 times! |
| 18:34.34 | Tain | Uh oh. I better read the NDA before I say anything else. |
| 18:34.36 | Tain | Forget I said that! |
| 18:35.50 | VoidRaider | it's sucks anyway :P |
| 18:36.28 | Thardal | no pvp in a lotr game = what |
| 18:36.30 | Corrodias | OMG TAIN HAS REVEALED THAT THERE IS AN NDA |
| 18:36.42 | Tain | I don't think it says anything about me not being able to say I'm involved. |
| 18:36.51 | Tain | No PVP = thank you game publisher |
| 18:37.04 | Thardal | it's boring |
| 18:37.07 | Corrodias | no pvp = the legolases will not control the world |
| 18:37.07 | Tain | Fuck PVP and fuck people who want to force PVP on others. |
| 18:37.26 | Thardal | WoW on a pve server is horribly carebearish, but you can still fight each other if you want |
| 18:37.38 | JoshBork1 | you tell them tain! |
| 18:38.41 | Tain | If you create a character on a PVP server you shouldn't be allowed to play on a normal server. Or post on normal forums. Or speak to normal people. In real life. |
| 18:38.52 | Corrodias | 'tis true i like consentual pvp |
| 18:39.11 | Corrodias | and in the wow way, not the d2 way, where it was only consentual one way |
| 18:39.39 | Tain | People can go enjoy their little virtual circle jerk but leave the rest of us out of it. |
| 18:40.11 | ckknight | consent is such a bitch to get |
| 18:40.31 | ckknight | and when you do get it, half-way through they're all like "wrong hole! wrong hole!" |
| 18:40.33 | ckknight | pfft |
| 18:40.41 | Tain | Sapped girls don't say no. |
| 18:41.30 | Tain | Anyway it's far easier to gain forgiveness than permission. |
| 18:53.48 | Neuro_Medivh | People may claim that pve servers are 'carebear', but at least I don't have to deal with the massive flood of profanity, ego, and ethnic slurs on a pve server |
| 18:54.04 | SB1-Work | Heh, true that. |
| 18:54.30 | SB1-Work | And now that the zones have PvP objectives worth capturing, there will be many more people running around flagged |
| 19:01.48 | Grine | I don't get that on PvP server either so :P (probably 2 hours late with this comment but who cares ;)) |
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| 19:08.38 | Tain | It's ok Grine, PvPers are about 2,000 years late on evolution. |
| 19:15.23 | Grine | not my PvPers <3 |
| 19:15.34 | Grine | Stormreaver EU ftw |
| 19:16.23 | Fisker | but then again |
| 19:16.25 | Fisker | Tain is right |
| 19:16.28 | Fisker | i'm freaking jesus |
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| 19:18.56 | Grine | jesus id fucking metal |
| 19:21.49 | Malivil-Sleep | ... |
| 19:22.16 | Malivil | I just bought a game card ^_^ |
| 19:22.21 | Malivil | Can't play till tomorrow night though =-/ |
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| 19:28.39 | Tem | You might be overpowered if... |
| 19:29.18 | Tem | When fighting 2 mobs 3 levels above you, you a named add who is 4 levels above you, and you don't panic |
| 19:30.01 | SB1-Work | lol |
| 19:30.04 | SB1-Work | Class? |
| 19:30.40 | Maldivia | warlock |
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| 19:31.36 | Tem | Shaman |
| 19:31.41 | Tain | Q&A with Warhammer Online devs. A quick little insight into the game. http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/27/1752236 |
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| 19:39.35 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:39.48 | Malivil | yo |
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| 20:17.10 | ckknight | anybody know if it's possible to set the world map to a battleground while outside of the battleground? |
| 20:18.39 | Malivil | not that i know of |
| 20:18.48 | Malivil | but the mod Atlas might have a map of the BGs in it |
| 20:19.26 | ckknight | I'm writing my own map addon |
| 20:19.37 | Malivil | ok.. |
| 20:21.02 | Malivil | whats gonna be differnet about it? |
| 20:21.17 | ckknight | it's efficient |
| 20:21.25 | Malivil | ok... |
| 20:21.43 | Malivil | thats important, good luck |
| 20:21.54 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Cartographer |
| 20:22.56 | JoshBorke | don't believe his propoganda! |
| 20:23.24 | ckknight | JoshBorke, ... |
| 20:23.29 | ckknight | I thought you used it. |
| 20:23.43 | JoshBorke | lol :-) i use Ace stuff |
| 20:23.46 | JoshBorke | i'm just kidding |
| 20:24.16 | JoshBorke | i will use cartographer once it is done though |
| 20:24.27 | ckknight | but it's usable now :-P |
| 20:24.38 | JoshBorke | i don't play enough to use it now :-D |
| 20:24.45 | JoshBorke | i've logged in a total of 1 hour the past 2 months |
| 20:25.07 | Osagasu | Wow. |
| 20:25.29 | JoshBorke | maybe more |
| 20:25.37 | JoshBorke | i did get some modding done |
| 20:26.33 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 20:35.55 | zenzelezz | ffs, my server just went down... they should take a serious look at it soon |
| 20:41.53 | Corrodias | how lame... burning soul being gutted like that |
| 20:41.57 | Inside | XD |
| 20:42.47 | Maldivia | huh |
| 20:42.52 | Tem | ? |
| 20:43.06 | Tem | or did you just realized the nerf they made like 2 months ago? |
| 20:43.07 | Maldivia | what they change now? |
| 20:43.27 | Corrodias | i didnt have a mage until recently, buddy |
| 20:43.35 | Corrodias | i didnt even know mage talents |
| 20:43.52 | Tem | ah |
| 20:44.06 | Corrodias | threat reduction was reduced from 30% to 10% max |
| 20:44.10 | Tem | I agree with that nerf |
| 20:44.19 | Tem | our threat reduction was too good |
| 20:45.01 | Maldivia | WAY too good |
| 20:45.26 | Corrodias | i guess i'm not experienced in this, but that's what rogues get, plus they have feint |
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| 20:45.32 | Corrodias | 30%, i mean |
| 20:45.34 | Maldivia | wow, an engineer item, that has a a 4k damage shield... |
| 20:45.34 | nevcairiel | do weapon procs still work in druid forms or was that another bug an removed again? |
| 20:45.46 | Antiarc | Rogues are also melee range in leather. |
| 20:46.03 | Antiarc | Aggro doesn't kill rogues. Cleaves/stomps/everything else in existance does. :D |
| 20:46.31 | Maldivia | atlest we got a spell, that removes 10% aggro every second :) |
| 20:46.47 | Maldivia | and 100% after 8 |
| 20:47.15 | Tem | that fade time too long imo |
| 20:47.29 | Maldivia | 4 seconds, and 25% pr sec... that would be nice |
| 20:47.38 | Maldivia | invis, evocation... wait |
| 20:47.56 | Tem | no matter though, I probably won't play a mage in TBC |
| 20:48.12 | Tem | kinda sick of being the red-headed step child of the classes |
| 20:48.12 | Corrodias | Maldivia: what's this, now? |
| 20:48.28 | Maldivia | Invisibility ? |
| 20:48.37 | Cide | Tem: a lot of classes feel that way, nothing new :) |
| 20:49.05 | Maldivia | I read Toms comment, that the devs was utterly impressed of the damage output of lvl 70 raiding mages... |
| 20:49.33 | Antiarc | Mages are dominating the arenas right now. |
| 20:49.49 | Maldivia | well, that's because if the AP,PoM,Trinket,Pyroblast crits for 5k |
| 20:49.54 | Corrodias | Maldivia: is this threat reduction from invisibility permanent, or temporary like Fade? |
| 20:50.04 | Maldivia | Corr: permanent |
| 20:50.11 | Antiarc | Maldivia: The most effective mages I've fought have actually been arcane. |
| 20:50.35 | Antiarc | 1200+ AM crit ticks tend to tear basically anything up in a hurry. |
| 20:50.41 | Maldivia | Antiarc: the above combination requires a 40,11,0 build - so deep arcane |
| 20:50.52 | Tem | I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE deep arcane builds |
| 20:50.58 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 20:51.07 | Maldivia | Antiarc: Fire >> Arcane Missiles |
| 20:51.26 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 20:51.39 | Corrodias | AP and PoM are acronyms i don't know yet, neither do i know Trinket |
| 20:51.41 | Antiarc | All I know is that my 5.2 leather rogue ass kept dying before I could even find the mage. |
| 20:51.49 | Maldivia | when you get around 300 dmg, frostbolt beats Arcane Missiles aswell |
| 20:51.50 | Antiarc | AP = Arcane Power, PoM = Presence of Mind |
| 20:51.59 | Antiarc | err, 5.2k HP |
| 20:52.02 | Tem | Antiarc, Mage > Rogue |
| 20:52.04 | Maldivia | AP = Arcane Power = +30% damage |
| 20:52.07 | Tem | deal with it |
| 20:52.08 | Antiarc | Tem: Apparently :) |
| 20:52.08 | Corrodias | i see |
| 20:52.15 | Maldivia | PoM = Presence of Mind = next spell is instant cast |
| 20:52.22 | Antiarc | Though I'm still trying to figure out who rogue is >. Maybe other rogues? |
| 20:52.34 | Corrodias | druid? |
| 20:52.36 | Antiarc | Nope. |
| 20:52.37 | Maldivia | Trinket = Zandalarian Hero Charm, or similar, that adds 200 dmg |
| 20:52.38 | Corrodias | what bout Trinket? |
| 20:52.42 | Antiarc | Bearform + HoTs > rogues |
| 20:52.42 | Corrodias | okay |
| 20:53.23 | Maldivia | lol... engineers can make robots, that can figth other engineer made robots! |
| 20:53.28 | Antiarc | Rogues are supposed to tear up cloth, I guess. But that doesn't happen so much anymore. Much less so with the expanded HP pools. |
| 20:53.55 | Maldivia | you haven't seen the 6.2k evis crit? |
| 20:54.14 | Grine | how on earth would you do a 6.2k evisc ? O_o |
| 20:54.22 | Cide | shadow step |
| 20:54.37 | Cide | well |
| 20:54.56 | Cide | that would take a lot of effort, I suppose |
| 20:54.57 | kergoth | speaking of rogues, any opinions on tbc rogue builds? |
| 20:54.57 | Maldivia | no |
| 20:55.01 | Grine | that doesn't make sense. |
| 20:55.04 | Grine | really :P |
| 20:55.08 | Antiarc | Evis doesn't crit for anywhere near 6.2k without some kind of phyiscal vuln, like phase 1 Razorgore. |
| 20:55.13 | Corrodias | Maldivia: so what is this arcane/fire combination you were referring to? |
| 20:55.15 | Cide | sure it does, you just have to vanish! |
| 20:55.24 | Grine | only tried Mutilate too kergoth |
| 20:55.36 | Antiarc | Shadowstep amps your next Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush, I think. |
| 20:55.38 | Antiarc | Not Evis. |
| 20:55.45 | Maldivia | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=31393 |
| 20:55.46 | Tem | kergoth, shadowstep is fucking awesome |
| 20:55.48 | Grine | didn't even know it amped shit |
| 20:55.54 | Antiarc | kergoth: I recommend Fury. |
| 20:55.55 | Antiarc | :( |
| 20:55.55 | kergoth | Antiarc, but if you're that deep in the tree, you have the boost to damage for a few secs after leaving stealth too |
| 20:56.02 | Antiarc | 6%, yes |
| 20:56.08 | Antiarc | Which won't get you anywhere near 6.2k |
| 20:56.08 | kergoth | the agi & ap boosts from the deep subtlety build is nice |
| 20:56.10 | Grine | Step aint that great for PvE of course |
| 20:56.25 | kergoth | step makes for some whopping attacks out of stealth, but i felt weak as hell after that |
| 20:56.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:56.28 | Tem | ambush mage, mage novas you |
| 20:56.35 | Antiarc | Show me a rogue evis critting a normal mob for 6.2k and I'll show you a level 140 rogue using Evis Rank 24. |
| 20:56.40 | Tem | you vanish, shadowstep and ambush mage again |
| 20:56.53 | Tem | mage dies |
| 20:57.17 | Tem | 2 ambush crits will litterally 2 shot most mages |
| 20:57.28 | Antiarc | Pre-TBC stam mages, yes. |
| 20:57.45 | Tem | post BC |
| 20:58.02 | Antiarc | But a 5-minute cooldown and a Sub build to be able to kill a mage - our supposed paper - kinda sucks ass. |
| 20:58.04 | kergoth | has anyone actually seen blade twisting proc? i played with a seal fate / AR build and never saw it proc once |
| 20:58.04 | Tem | I got ambush crit for 3k the other day |
| 20:58.28 | Maldivia | Antiarc: see the video I linked |
| 20:58.31 | Tem | Antiarc, mages easily beat rogues unless the rogue blows cooldowns and gets the jump |
| 20:58.37 | Antiarc | Looking it up, Maldivia |
| 20:58.43 | Antiarc | Tem: Exactly. |
| 20:58.59 | Elkano | keep them at a distance and you've won |
| 20:59.07 | Tem | ie, you aren't the mage counter |
| 20:59.27 | Corrodias | rogues are designed to stun people while others beat on them? >_> |
| 20:59.32 | cryogen | thats exclusively reserved for warlocks |
| 20:59.36 | cryogen | rogues couldnt possibly have that title |
| 20:59.46 | Tem | mm, shamans have a pretty easy time with mages |
| 20:59.49 | Antiarc | Ahh, ok. Recklessness = target takes 20% more damage. Zerker buff = +25% damage from the rogue. So the target did have a physical damage vulnerability. |
| 21:00.09 | Antiarc | If he blew Deathwish, then that's even more incoming damage that the warrior is taking. |
| 21:00.14 | Antiarc | Err |
| 21:00.20 | Antiarc | Recklessness = user takes 20% more damage |
| 21:00.29 | zenzelezz | warrior Recklessness? |
| 21:00.31 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 21:00.46 | zenzelezz | the ability? Or some talent? |
| 21:00.49 | Antiarc | Ability. |
| 21:00.57 | Antiarc | 30 minute cooldown, linked to Shield Wall and Retaliation |
| 21:01.30 | zenzelezz | unless I'm utterly mistaken, that only affects your crit chance? |
| 21:01.30 | Antiarc | No, it makes you take 20% more damage too |
| 21:01.30 | cryogen | and makes you immune to fear |
| 21:01.33 | zenzelezz | that too |
| 21:01.35 | Corrodias | and washes your shirts |
| 21:01.36 | Antiarc | The warrior will cause critical hits with most attacks and will be immune to Fear effects for the next 15 sec, but all damage taken is increased by 20%. |
| 21:01.51 | zenzelezz | guess you're right =) |
| 21:01.59 | zenzelezz | never tried it while taking damage, so didn't notice |
| 21:01.59 | Antiarc | Death wish: When activated, increases your physical damage by 20% and makes you immune to Fear effects, but lowers your armor and all resistances by 20%. Lasts 30 sec. |
| 21:02.05 | Antiarc | Annnnd.... |
| 21:02.19 | Antiarc | Where's the WSG berserker buff... |
| 21:02.44 | Antiarc | Berserking |
| 21:02.45 | Antiarc | Increases all damage caused by 30% and all damage taken by 10%. |
| 21:03.27 | Antiarc | I suspect that the warrior had 2x 20% damage increase debuffs (reck + DW), and maybe the berserking buff (+10% damage taken), rogue had the +30% damage buff (berserking), and then trinketed and hit the evis. |
| 21:03.34 | Antiarc | So yes, that's massive physical vulnerability :) |
| 21:03.46 | Antiarc | I hit one of Raz's students for 22k Friday. Nerf rogues. |
| 21:03.47 | Antiarc | >_> |
| 21:03.48 | JoshBorke | don't forget warrior was nekkid |
| 21:03.56 | Corrodias | eww |
| 21:03.57 | Antiarc | And the warrior was nekkid, yes. |
| 21:04.06 | Corrodias | i hate newds |
| 21:04.09 | zenzelezz | I hit Raz's student for 22k Shield Slam |
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| 21:04.19 | JoshBorke | Kirov: ! |
| 21:04.32 | Kirov | moo |
| 21:04.48 | JoshBorke | oink |
| 21:04.48 | Corrodias | i hit Raz's student for a 22k Thorns proc |
| 21:04.50 | JoshBorke | Kirov: help me please! |
| 21:05.03 | Corrodias | but to be more serious, who's Raz? |
| 21:05.12 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: :-P |
| 21:05.13 | Kaso | instructor razuvious |
| 21:05.16 | Antiarc | Instructor Razuvious |
| 21:05.21 | Cide | moo Kirov |
| 21:05.23 | Antiarc | first boss of the deathknight wing in Naxx |
| 21:05.27 | JoshBorke | instructor razuvious |
| 21:05.41 | Kaso | And, a priest can out damage anyone on that fight, the adds hit other adds for 300-400k |
| 21:06.05 | Antiarc | I wish that I could use the MC hat in combat. |
| 21:06.14 | Antiarc | I would totally use that at the end of the fight to pad my damage numbers =) |
| 21:06.23 | Kaso | the MC hat was nerfed because of Razu :> |
| 21:06.28 | Kirov | josh - with what? |
| 21:06.31 | Antiarc | Seriously? That makes no sense. |
| 21:06.48 | Antiarc | I thought it was nerfed because it was being used to grief people trying to do world bosses |
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| 21:07.05 | Kaso | well, its just rumor mogering on my part |
| 21:07.06 | JoshBorke | Kirov: i really like the GUI you did for DevTools. 1) i'd like your permission to use code from it in my mod 2) i need help figuring out how to use it in my mod :-( |
| 21:07.15 | Kaso | but the fact it got nerfed the same time they added Naxx |
| 21:07.36 | Antiarc | That makes very little sense, since you really wouldn't gain any tactical advantage. |
| 21:08.19 | Kirov | josh - um, sure. |
| 21:08.20 | Kirov | good luck with the code. |
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| 21:08.20 | Kaso | Antiarc all four adds DPS on razuvious at once? |
| 21:08.22 | MentalPower | bbl |
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| 21:08.25 | Kaso | thats quite and advantage |
| 21:08.54 | Antiarc | Kaso: But then you'd not have any adds left to tank him when the MCs break. |
| 21:09.08 | Antiarc | And they don't hit Raz that hard. I don't think. |
| 21:09.16 | Antiarc | Not entirely sure about that. |
| 21:09.20 | Kaso | how long does the cap last? |
| 21:09.26 | Corrodias | forever |
| 21:09.27 | Kaso | and they hit for like 2k -3k |
| 21:09.28 | Corrodias | muahaha |
| 21:09.36 | Antiarc | 20 seconds |
| 21:09.42 | Kirov_ | josh - what particular part of the ui? |
| 21:09.46 | Kaso | ah, not as long as i thought |
| 21:09.49 | Antiarc | Nope. |
| 21:09.56 | Antiarc | Assuming that the cap doesn't MC you instead. |
| 21:10.17 | JoshBorke | Kirov_: the filter options |
| 21:10.21 | Kaso | but yeh, the two MCing priests will easily get the highest DPS on that fight. the adds do sick damage to razu, he has like no armor |
| 21:11.27 | Antiarc | I'd think that the priests would top the aggro list when MC breaks, then, unless MC pet threat isn't transferred to the MCer. |
| 21:11.37 | Antiarc | No idea about that particular mechanic. |
| 21:11.41 | JoshBorke | Kirov_: i can't quite figure out how the data is structured for display |
| 21:11.45 | Corrodias | i am curious about that myself |
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| 21:12.16 | Antiarc | Either it's not being transferred, or the priest isn't keeping up with the rogues. |
| 21:12.26 | Antiarc | Because Raz is rather fond of eating my face when MC breaks early. |
| 21:12.30 | Kaso | the threat is very wierd on Razu, i can never really understand it, alot of the time when MC breaks the adds will hot-tail it to a healer even though you should have several million threat from MC |
| 21:12.50 | Antiarc | Well, I mean Raz's threat list |
| 21:13.09 | Antiarc | If Priest MC's Add 1, does Add 1's threat gen get listed as coming from the priest? I'd assume not. |
| 21:13.28 | Kaso | it does on a "real" mob |
| 21:13.43 | Kaso | but, again, is proberly coded so it acts differenetly |
| 21:14.08 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 21:14.31 | Antiarc | That seems kinda odd. Blizzard usually changes mechanics rather than making special exceptions for a single fight. |
| 21:14.34 | Antiarc | See: Taunt and the 4H. |
| 21:15.11 | Corrodias | is that an article? |
| 21:15.19 | Kaso | how did they alter Taunt mechanics for 4h? |
| 21:16.08 | Corrodias | maybe Taunt used to make birds fly out of your earws |
| 21:16.13 | Kirov_ | Josh - basically it generates a massive table based off of the event names, then does a bit of post processing on the list to find out which parts of the array have more than one entry, marking it as a sub group. Then from there it generates another table constructed of references to the original array which contains information about how it should be displayed (depth in the array, and if it's an event) |
| 21:16.13 | Antiarc | Before, Taunt a) gave you threat equal to the top of the threat list, and b) forced aggro onto you for the duration of the debuff. The tank had to overcome the top of the aggro list's threat by 10% to keep aggro. |
| 21:16.33 | Antiarc | They changed it so that it gave you threat equal to the top of the aggro list and made YOU the one whose 10% had to be overcome. |
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| 21:16.43 | Kirov_ | Josh - in all, it generates around 400kb of table data for the window. |
| 21:16.47 | Antiarc | Without the change, the 4H would basically be impossible, since you wouldn't be able to ever tank-swap otherwise. |
| 21:16.53 | Kaso | mmhm |
| 21:16.55 | Kaso | interesting |
| 21:16.57 | Kirov_ | But it's fast once it's done it once. |
| 21:17.01 | Corrodias | i did not hear about this change to Taunt |
| 21:17.03 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: does it bump everyone down or bump you up 10%? |
| 21:17.37 | Corrodias | the last time i heard Taunt explained, by people in this room, it was the former, and it was after naxx was out. it seems this is not a well-known thing, if true. |
| 21:17.56 | Antiarc | Josh: Joe Rogue is top of the threat list with 500 threat. Tank has 300 threat. Tank taunts. Tank has 500 threat now. Joe rogue has to generate (Tank's threat * 1.1) to gain aggro. Jane Mage has to generate (Tank's threat * 1.3) to pull aggro. |
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| 21:17.59 | JoshBorke | Kirov_: hrm, yea. I am trying to do something similar and it just seems really wasteful table wise. especially if i need to update it often |
| 21:18.32 | Antiarc | If you're in melee range, exceeding the top of the aggro list by 10% pulls aggro. If at range, it's 30%. |
| 21:18.33 | Kirov_ | Josh - it was generated in that was simply because it's fast, and it allows for easy auto generation and updating. |
| 21:18.35 | Corrodias | why would a mage have to generate 30% more threat to gain aggro? |
| 21:18.43 | Antiarc | Melee vs range |
| 21:18.47 | Corrodias | oh, yes.. |
| 21:18.49 | JoshBorke | Corrodias: distance |
| 21:18.52 | JoshBorke | blasted |
| 21:18.57 | Kaso | unless the mage is meleeing at the time |
| 21:19.02 | Kirov_ | You can quickly add or remove entries which minimal impact, but it is an obsurd amount of memory. |
| 21:19.05 | Corrodias | yeah, smartypants |
| 21:19.11 | Maldivia | which is why it's hard for a warrior to regaing aggro, when the mobs runs |
| 21:19.16 | Antiarc | I think the Taunt description on Wowwiki is out of date, which is probably where the misconceptions come from. |
| 21:19.34 | Antiarc | Incidentally -- |
| 21:19.36 | Corrodias | does somebody have a wowwiki account? |
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| 21:19.44 | Antiarc | Mocking Blow and Challenging Shout don't behave like Taunt does |
| 21:19.52 | Corrodias | what about Growl? |
| 21:19.56 | Antiarc | ie, the tank still has to exceed the top of the list by 10% to keep aggro |
| 21:20.03 | Maldivia | Corr: doesn't half the people in here have it? |
| 21:20.11 | Antiarc | Growl is the same as Taunt, basically. The AOE growl doesn't have that component though. |
| 21:20.23 | Corrodias | possibly, Maldivia. i don't, so i can't update the description. |
| 21:20.44 | Antiarc | Taunt was changed in....1.8? |
| 21:20.50 | Antiarc | I don't remember precisely where. |
| 21:21.13 | Kaso | i thought Challenging Shout did act like taunt? ive never done 4h but cant you use shout incase taunt resists |
| 21:21.34 | Kirov_ | Josh - It'd be more efficient to have two tables, one with all possible sub groups, and another with each event name. You could just keep track of which sub group has more than 1 entry in it and build from there. |
| 21:21.44 | Antiarc | Challenging Shout is an AOE taunt, but it doesn't make you the one to beat for threat. |
| 21:22.06 | Antiarc | If Joe Rogue has aggro and I challenging shout and then neither of us does anything, the mob will resume beating on Joe once the Challenging Shout debuff drops |
| 21:22.18 | Antiarc | If I Taunt, though, and neither of us does anything, the mob sticks on me after Taunt drops. |
| 21:22.51 | Kirov_ | Josh - updating it and creating the indexed display list will require a lot of string.match calls though, but you could throw out the table data when you're done with it if you don't expect it to change often. |
| 21:24.57 | Corrodias | i need a nap. [away[ |
| 21:25.07 | JoshBorke | Kirov_: i want to use the same GUI paradigm for a mod i'm working on where players can filter spellcasts of different units in their group |
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| 21:25.56 | JoshBorke | dangit |
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| 21:48.11 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:49.38 | JoshBorke | Kirov: you back? stable? |
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| 21:56.23 | Drundia | anyone knows after what event i can successfully scan talents? |
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| 21:58.29 | Kaso | CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED |
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| 22:03.59 | Kirov | josh - sorta |
| 22:04.03 | Drundia | it doesnt fire during login process |
| 22:04.20 | Kaso | then do a scan on pew also |
| 22:04.40 | Drundia | GetNumTalents still returns 0 at pew |
| 22:04.47 | JoshBorke | Kirov: i'm basically trying to take a nested table of players and their subsequent spells and put it into the GUI that you created for DevTools so that people can collapse individual player spells or collapse entire classes |
| 22:04.53 | Kaso | ^_- |
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| 22:20.27 | Kirov | Josh - well, that's a far less dynamic list than the one for events |
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| 22:49.51 | JoshBorke | Kirov: agreed, but i dunno how to do it regardless :-) |
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| 22:50.38 | Kirov | heh |
| 22:50.57 | JoshBorke | Kirov: and the spells per player are created when the spell is first cast |
| 22:51.51 | Kirov | josh - this is true, but that's just a list. |
| 22:52.12 | Kirov | the event list are broken up in to groups based on common parts of the event name |
| 22:52.22 | JoshBorke | yea, i thought that was pretty clever :-) |
| 22:52.26 | Kirov | For you it'd be class, name, long list of spells |
| 22:52.53 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 22:53.10 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: i got my personal svn to have a zip script :-D |
| 22:54.45 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:54.49 | cladhaire | don't they suck! =) |
| 22:54.59 | cladhaire | its easier if you only have a few specific cases to worry about |
| 22:55.42 | JoshBorke | yea, i just put in an ugly hack to remove trunk from the name :-D and assume there is only one level deep for the commit |
| 22:55.45 | JoshBorke | anyway, time to go |
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| 23:00.52 | ckknight | cladhaire, ping |
| 23:00.59 | cladhaire | pong |
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| 23:11.35 | abug | what's the new /use command for a BackSlot item? |
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| 23:14.21 | cogwheel | abug use the slot number |
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| 23:17.10 | abug | am I doing it right? /use 15 isn't working |
| 23:17.19 | abug | nm |
| 23:17.25 | abug | working now |
| 23:17.34 | abug | ~cogwheel |
| 23:17.44 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, cogwheel is a gnome. 'nuff said. |
| 23:17.58 | cogwheel | kk :) |
| 23:18.07 | abug | thanks |
| 23:20.26 | VoidRaider | Hmm guys is there any difference between loadstring and RunScript internally ? |
| 23:20.43 | cladhaire | loadstring doesn't run the script |
| 23:20.44 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:20.54 | VoidRaider | it doesn't ? |
| 23:21.00 | cladhaire | no, it returns a function |
| 23:21.02 | cladhaire | which you can then call |
| 23:21.09 | VoidRaider | hmm |
| 23:23.23 | Tem | methinks that RunScript is function(str) return loadstring("do return "..str .. "end") end internally |
| 23:23.29 | Tem | er |
| 23:23.41 | VoidRaider | yeah I think so too |
| 23:23.51 | Tem | function(str) return loadstring("do return "..str .. "end")() end |
| 23:23.52 | VoidRaider | or something similar |
| 23:24.06 | kergoth | wasnt runscript actually useful before they gave us loadstring? |
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| 23:24.54 | Tem | yeah, |
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| 23:36.22 | cladhaire | its the 27th, no? |
| 23:36.37 | cladhaire | that means i shoudl take a nap. |
| 23:36.43 | Mery | for you yes, for me no |
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| 23:43.26 | Antiarc | Does anyone know if each rank of Improved Shield Block allows for an additional blocked attack, or if it's just the one extra attack blocked? |
| 23:43.31 | cladhaire | and that is my one complaint with macs =( |
| 23:43.36 | Antiarc | ie, does 3/3 imp shield block get me 4 attacks blocked per usage? |
| 23:51.18 | TuX_BuBling | just a question about the future 2.01 patch |
| 23:51.21 | TuX_BuBling | or 2.0 |
| 23:51.26 | TuX_BuBling | next week |
| 23:51.47 | TuX_BuBling | what kind of addons will it brake? |
| 23:54.29 | TuX_BuBling | i read someone on a forum that said all bars addons would be broken |
| 23:54.37 | TuX_BuBling | like Flexbar |
| 23:54.40 | TuX_BuBling | any idea? |
| 23:54.46 | Neuro_Medivh | It'll break just about every addon you have |
| 23:54.54 | Neuro_Medivh | several have working versions |
| 23:55.05 | Neuro_Medivh | but many are just straight-up broken |
| 23:55.20 | Neuro_Medivh | like Discord, there's currently not a working 2.0 version |
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| 23:57.37 | Thunder_Child | there is a beta for discord, that works |
| 23:59.26 | TuX_BuBling | even simple ones? like minimap buttons etc |
