| 00:00.01 | Guillotine | then I need to check thott. one moment |
| 00:00.09 | cladhaire | Should I go full feral, or full oomkin? |
| 00:00.13 | cladhaire | to get this level tonight |
| 00:00.19 | Cide | full resto!! |
| 00:00.26 | cladhaire | zomg tree of life for the level! |
| 00:01.33 | Guillotine | cladhaire: I dunno. I did it on both specs (on each server) and balance was faster, but that might be because 1. I knew the quests, 2. its a PvE server, and 3. I had the infinite mana bug for about 1/4 the level |
| 00:01.45 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 00:01.57 | cladhaire | well i'm on PVE, and i dont know the quests |
| 00:02.23 | [Cu]Werik | If I were you I'd quit immediately:P |
| 00:02.32 | Guillotine | no way, druids rock now |
| 00:02.46 | cladhaire | ho nvm |
| 00:02.48 | cladhaire | balance |
| 00:02.53 | cladhaire | i have hand of edward the odd |
| 00:02.53 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:04.04 | Guillotine | oh, definately then |
| 00:04.16 | Shadowed | cladhaire's a farmer |
| 00:04.23 | Shadowed | with his BOE epics |
| 00:04.24 | DrDre | i got mangled like 30 timesi n last AV |
| 00:04.37 | DrDre | like every druid is cat or tree form now |
| 00:04.44 | Guillotine | oomkin is fun too |
| 00:04.53 | Guillotine | I tanked ramparts twice in oomkin :D |
| 00:05.03 | DrDre | that new huntersmark confused the shit out of me at first |
| 00:05.03 | Shadowed | I hated tanking ramparts |
| 00:05.22 | cladhaire | 51 balance =) |
| 00:05.26 | Guillotine | Cladhaire: start at http://www.thottbot.com/beta?qu=10121 |
| 00:05.36 | Shadowed | but maybe that's because the warlock liked to DOT everything, the hunter never assisted, the rogue liked to BF every group of mobs ( which is every other pull )....and my armor mitigated like 95% of the damage |
| 00:05.37 | Guillotine | and just follow that quest line |
| 00:06.17 | Guillotine | Shadowed: ya, I had some problems holding aggro when the rogue liked attacking whatever I WASN |
| 00:06.30 | Guillotine | WASN'T so that he could get higher on his damage meters |
| 00:06.34 | Guillotine | by stacking combo points |
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| 00:07.46 | Shadowed | it wasn't as much of an issue of the rogue, it was more like having to focus on 3-4 mobs at once. I can tank through crazy rogues if they attack the same target |
| 00:08.58 | cladhaire | Guillotine: Thanks |
| 00:09.25 | Guillotine | also, if you see Wildfurry, wave hi :) |
| 00:09.41 | Guillotine | and activate pvp and go afk |
| 00:09.55 | cladhaire | haha |
| 00:10.40 | cladhaire | Nature's Grace is.. awesome =) |
| 00:11.23 | Guillotine | ya, especially if you hvae a high crit chance |
| 00:11.40 | Guillotine | its great combined with improved regrowth |
| 00:11.50 | Guillotine | 50% crit chance on regrowth, so you get lots of fast heals |
| 00:12.32 | cladhaire | ooh nice |
| 00:12.41 | cladhaire | i should have spec'd that =) |
| 00:12.51 | cladhaire | i wish druids didn't have to go to Mulgore to train |
| 00:12.58 | Guillotine | tp: moonglade |
| 00:13.05 | cladhaire | its not org. |
| 00:13.07 | cladhaire | i'm lazy |
| 00:13.23 | ckknight | cladhaire, in TBC, you can go to Exodar or Silvermoon City |
| 00:13.26 | Guillotine | heh. I just tp:moonglade then have 2 people summon me with the meeting stone |
| 00:13.33 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.35 | cladhaire | why? |
| 00:13.53 | Guillotine | ckknight: thats not really any closer to outland than mulgore |
| 00:13.55 | cladhaire | why do they have druid trainers in THOSE cities but not Org? |
| 00:14.04 | cladhaire | that doesn't make sense =/ |
| 00:14.08 | Guillotine | it is annoying. no druid trainer in IF either :/ |
| 00:14.25 | cladhaire | this is what i mean =) |
| 00:15.02 | Cide | <3 orgrimmar portal as a priest |
| 00:15.13 | Cide | 3 feet from trainer + hearth back to shattrah |
| 00:15.15 | Guillotine | but clad, the regrowth+nature's grace isn't great for soloing or questing |
| 00:15.35 | cladhaire | no not int he least |
| 00:15.53 | cladhaire | i suppose it'll be nice once i get to shatt |
| 00:15.54 | Guillotine | but its nice if you like to both heal and damage |
| 00:15.56 | cladhaire | but not there yet =) |
| 00:16.03 | Guillotine | no trainers in shatt :( |
| 00:16.06 | cladhaire | i know |
| 00:16.09 | cladhaire | but portal to TB |
| 00:16.12 | Guillotine | true |
| 00:16.12 | cladhaire | and hearth |
| 00:16.13 | cladhaire | heh |
| 00:16.18 | Guillotine | but if you want to portal, just portal to moonglade |
| 00:16.22 | Guillotine | then hearth back |
| 00:16.23 | cladhaire | yep |
| 00:16.27 | cladhaire | THEY ALL WORK |
| 00:16.31 | cladhaire | i'm onlya fake druid. |
| 00:16.42 | cladhaire | i dont do the moonglade thing |
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| 00:17.23 | Guillotine | moonglade is so fun on the pvp server |
| 00:17.28 | cladhaire | heheh |
| 00:17.30 | Guillotine | you respec for the tree summoning |
| 00:17.36 | Guillotine | and put them right near someone |
| 00:17.44 | Guillotine | and the guards attack them if htey try to heal or damage or anything |
| 00:17.46 | Guillotine | but don't attack you |
| 00:17.47 | cladhaire | i never had a guild, or bankroll to PVP server |
| 00:17.50 | cladhaire | i dont want to be lonely |
| 00:17.58 | Guillotine | only pvp server I've ever been on is the test |
| 00:18.14 | cladhaire | <3 legionaire pvp travel form |
| 00:19.05 | zenzelezz | I actually leveled my first char to 60 on a high-population PvP server, despite the fact that I detest PvP... think the only reason I found it bearable was because I was Euro on a US server, so I didn't play during peak hours :-p |
| 00:19.31 | cladhaire | ok.. quest log empty |
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| 00:20.23 | cladhaire | i can'ty turn off autorun |
| 00:20.24 | Guillotine | cladhaire: just don |
| 00:20.35 | Guillotine | just don't talent in feline swiftness |
| 00:20.53 | Guillotine | if you use feline swiftness + pvp 4/6 bonus, stealth in cat goes slower instead of faster :( |
| 00:21.11 | End | odd |
| 00:21.13 | cladhaire | `hehe |
| 00:21.44 | Guillotine | I think the problem is a bit like the rogue not getting full effect from feint because they have a built in threat reduction |
| 00:21.48 | Shadowed | End: If you think thats odd, Rampage doesn't start building up stacks until you use it twice |
| 00:22.14 | End | odd as well |
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| 00:29.41 | cladhaire | holy crap.. i have no mana |
| 00:29.42 | cladhaire | this sucks. |
| 00:29.47 | |Shadow| | :o |
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| 00:39.08 | cladhaire | ok.. so why does Clique break the right click menu? |
| 00:41.50 | Shadowed | the author fails? :D |
| 00:42.16 | cladhaire | i know he does |
| 00:42.20 | cladhaire | i just dont understadn the underlying reason |
| 00:44.05 | Garoun|Loupana | was there a replacement for CastSpellByName or should it be removed all together |
| 00:44.31 | zenzelezz | don't think it's removed, just not accessible to mods |
| 00:45.20 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah I have Chronometer that still has it in it as well as FuBar_TransporterFu and I believe it's what's causing one of my issues |
| 00:47.00 | Garoun|Loupana | when in doubt, comment it out :P |
| 00:47.02 | Kirkburn | I love some of the new quest names |
| 00:47.07 | Kirkburn | "Oh, It's On!" |
| 00:47.13 | Kirkburn | "Bring me a shrubbery!" |
| 00:47.34 | Garoun|Loupana | just ran into the issue trying to use some of the new macro functions go figure :P |
| 00:47.37 | wereHamster | how can I change the password for my TBC beta account? |
| 00:47.55 | Kirkburn | Supposedly it's the same as your normal account, but updated less frequently |
| 00:48.10 | wereHamster | ah.. |
| 00:48.13 | Kirkburn | I say supposedly, since I changed mine a while back, and the beta one hasn't changed |
| 00:48.22 | wereHamster | the same her |
| 00:48.23 | wereHamster | e |
| 00:49.15 | Kirkburn | This is weird, I have a new pair of boots with different ways of saying the same stats |
| 00:49.27 | Kirkburn | One has +20 Spell Dmg and Healing |
| 00:49.43 | Kirkburn | The other has Equip: Increases dmg .... blah .... up to 20. |
| 00:50.11 | Tem | inconsistency ftw |
| 00:50.34 | Kirkburn | Not only that, but the two pairs of boots are essentially identical |
| 00:51.31 | Tem | My personal favorite is: "Increases Spell Critical Strike rating by ..." "Increases Spell Critical Hit rating by ..." "Increases Spell Crit Rating by... " " + X Spell Critical Strike Rating" "+X Spell Critical Hit Rating" ... |
| 00:51.59 | Tem | 6 different attributes that all ammount to the same thing |
| 00:53.08 | Garoun|Loupana | tracking down bugs are so much fun |
| 00:53.30 | Kirkburn | lol tem |
| 00:53.36 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.12 | Tem | I'm willing to bet that a matching set exists for Melee crit rating |
| 00:54.43 | End | woot my code works |
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| 00:56.32 | Garoun|Loupana | oh ck :) |
| 00:57.19 | Garoun|Loupana | Something in Cartographer is causing a illegal action in macros |
| 00:57.49 | JoshBork1 | any guides to shoring up code to lua 5.1? |
| 00:58.05 | Shadowed | wow |
| 00:58.06 | Shadowed | "It has one funtion that I found odd, Ii auto uneqips my bow for class calls. Would that not be considered a third party function? I have since removed the program because I prefer to operate my toon myself. " |
| 00:58.33 | cladhaire | JoshBork1: The lua manal for 5.1 |
| 00:59.20 | End | the two biggest changes from lua 5.0 to lua 5.1 that you probably care about is you must use pairs() instead of for k,v in tab, and the vararg changes |
| 00:59.28 | JoshBork1 | table.setn |
| 00:59.48 | End | there's that one too, but I've never gotten bitten by it |
| 01:00.05 | End | actually, the first one I didn't get bit by either, I always just used pairs() already |
| 01:00.24 | JoshBork1 | yea, i use pairs() already |
| 01:00.31 | JoshBork1 | but the table.setn being deprecated is sudden :-( |
| 01:01.31 | JoshBork1 | so it's #<table> = <new value>? |
| 01:02.34 | cladhaire | no |
| 01:02.35 | cladhaire | you don't set it |
| 01:02.37 | cladhaire | basically =) |
| 01:02.42 | JoshBork1 | but, but |
| 01:03.29 | JoshBork1 | hm, ok |
| 01:05.10 | DrDre | yay for tieing the epic'd out tier2 rogue with my blues! |
| 01:05.14 | DrDre | sword>daggers ftw |
| 01:05.54 | DrDre | crap didnt read which arena was going into ;x |
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| 01:18.25 | Kaso | focus is private to you isnt it |
| 01:18.34 | Kaso | ie you cant do party2focus |
| 01:19.04 | Corrodias | interesting thought |
| 01:19.45 | Cide | it's local, yes |
| 01:19.53 | Kaso | ok, i assumed as much, thanks |
| 01:20.49 | Josh_Borke | ok, i need table.setn in 5.1 |
| 01:20.53 | Josh_Borke | i have a valid use! |
| 01:21.14 | ckknight | no you don't. |
| 01:21.14 | Josh_Borke | no really! |
| 01:21.14 | ckknight | what's your use, for interest's sake. |
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| 01:21.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit i wanna try mangle |
| 01:21.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 01:22.05 | Josh_Borke | for my mod GuildBook, i have back and forward buttons that are represented using table.insert/table.remove. whenever they click on a hyperlink after going back, the forward path is reset |
| 01:22.19 | cladhaire | shit |
| 01:22.23 | cladhaire | where are druid trainers in moonglade |
| 01:22.24 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:22.44 | ckknight | Josh_Borke, use two stacks. |
| 01:22.55 | Josh_Borke | back is 1 stack, forward is 1 stack |
| 01:23.23 | ckknight | right. |
| 01:24.12 | Kaso | i dont think i can fix my addon for wow 2.0 :< |
| 01:24.44 | Kaso | i'll have to do Razuvious the old fasioned way till tbc comes out and noone does naxxramas ever again |
| 01:25.37 | zenzelezz | what's the old fashioned way, and how did your mod change it? |
| 01:26.43 | Kaso | the old fasioned way is without my addon :> and it gave you unitframes for each of the Add's with relavant timers etc, the timers i can keep, but the unitframes thing isnt doable with all this new securewhatnot as far as i can see |
| 01:27.07 | Corrodias | it sure isn't, at least if you make them clickable |
| 01:27.51 | Corrodias | [away] @ ps2 in a computer lab |
| 01:30.14 | Josh_Borke | is what i currently do. i enable/disable the forward/back button based on the size of the tables. |
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| 01:33.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | <@cladhaire> where are druid trainers in moonglade |
| 01:33.12 | cladhaire | found em |
| 01:33.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's one but you can't respec with him |
| 01:33.16 | cladhaire | yreah you can |
| 01:33.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | o rly |
| 01:33.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | they made it so you can now |
| 01:33.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | nice |
| 01:33.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | his name's logannar right |
| 01:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | getting someone to let me borrow mats for crusader |
| 01:33.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | long enough to copy |
| 01:43.15 | [Liquidor] | أبو مصعب السوري |
| 01:43.37 | norgs | Yup, that what I was saying before [Liquidor]... |
| 01:43.38 | ckknight | [Liquidor], what was the point of that? |
| 01:43.52 | DrDre | so |
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| 01:43.57 | DrDre | youneed to be hated with Defilers |
| 01:44.01 | DrDre | to use Mindfang in PTR |
| 01:44.02 | DrDre | lol |
| 01:44.59 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: point? :O what is "point" o.O Point of what? |
| 01:45.22 | zenzelezz | all those odd characters |
| 01:45.50 | [Liquidor] | It's a language |
| 01:45.56 | ckknight | Arabic? |
| 01:45.59 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 01:46.02 | [Liquidor] | I think :> |
| 01:46.20 | [Liquidor] | You can make new sentences out of it |
| 01:46.27 | ckknight | been a while since I studied it. |
| 01:47.03 | [Liquidor] | أبوأبو مصعلسب اومصريمص مبو |
| 01:47.15 | [Liquidor] | Hahah my client actually writes backwards |
| 01:47.23 | [Liquidor] | had a REALLY hard time copy&pasting :> |
| 01:47.49 | zenzelezz | mine don't recognize them at all |
| 01:48.18 | ckknight | my IRC client messes it up |
| 01:48.24 | ckknight | I can see it properly if I copy-paste it, though |
| 01:49.22 | [Liquidor] | It's merely impossible to figure it out -.- |
| 01:49.35 | [Liquidor] | When hitting Home I get to the beginning but im writing at the end and vice versa |
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| 02:05.50 | Cairenn | guys ... the mod that would bop your minimap under your mouse, scan tracking blips, then move it back? |
| 02:06.17 | Cairenn | anyone remember the name? |
| 02:07.03 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 02:07.05 | Shadowed | smart idea! |
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| 02:11.51 | MentalPower | for those of you that are curious, its "TrackAlert" made by Tain (http://wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4361) |
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| 02:13.00 | SP|Sorren | nooo server, don't go down when im underwater D: |
| 02:16.10 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh, found a bug in framexml |
| 02:16.40 | Garoun|Loupana | chatframe.lua:706, attempt to call global IsCtrleyDown' (nil) |
| 02:17.03 | MentalPower | 2.0? |
| 02:17.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:17.19 | Garoun|Loupana | trying to use /cast [modifier:ctrl] |
| 02:17.21 | Garoun|Loupana | yep |
| 02:17.26 | Garoun|Loupana | disabled all mods |
| 02:17.38 | Garoun|Loupana | couldn't figure out why my modifier cast wouldnt' work for anything |
| 02:19.18 | Garoun|Loupana | if someone can verify it for me that would be most appreciated ) |
| 02:19.19 | Garoun|Loupana | :) |
| 02:19.25 | Garoun|Loupana | gotta go eat dinner right now though |
| 02:21.04 | phyber | did you just paste that error or type it? |
| 02:21.11 | phyber | because it's IsControlKeyDown() |
| 02:21.44 | phyber | or they framexml has a typo? :o |
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| 02:21.58 | phyber | those nubs :) |
| 02:22.34 | Antiarc | What's the easiest way to tell if you're in TBC or 1.12? |
| 02:22.50 | phyber | GetBuildInfo() |
| 02:23.11 | Antiarc | Awesome, thanks |
| 02:23.37 | phyber | local version = GetBuildInfo(); if string.find(version, "^2%.") then wibble end; or some such thing. |
| 02:24.26 | phyber | bbl. |
| 02:24.47 | MentalPower | Garoun|Loupana: " (key == "ctrl" and IsCtrlKeyDown()) or" <---Thats my ChatFrame.lua:706 line |
| 02:34.53 | Josh_Borke | so, how can i do table.setn? |
| 02:39.21 | MentalPower | you don't |
| 02:39.30 | MentalPower | what do you need it for? |
| 02:41.51 | Saeris | Yeah, you don't need it anymore. |
| 02:42.27 | Josh_Borke | i have a stack that i need to throw out the contents of |
| 02:42.51 | Saeris | for key in pairs(trashTable) do trashTable[key] = nil end |
| 02:43.32 | Saeris | Same effect, and it actually clears out the elements. |
| 02:48.28 | Shadowed | Hrm, I take it theres no way to get the 10 day trial key that you get with your game if you dont have the original piece of paper or remember the code? |
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| 02:49.16 | Thunder_Child | ~seen ckknight |
| 02:49.38 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@198.199.136.121> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 45m 21s ago, saying: 'gotta go to class'. |
| 02:49.38 | MentalPower | Shadowed: theres the friends thingy now |
| 02:49.38 | Shadowed | MentalPower: ? |
| 02:49.45 | MentalPower | sec, getting the link |
| 02:49.52 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 02:50.04 | Gryphen | recruit a friend, right side of wow.com |
| 02:50.23 | Shadowed | perfect |
| 02:50.28 | DrDre | http://www.fileplanet.com/163517/160000/fileinfo/World-of-Warcraft---Trial-Client |
| 02:50.37 | DrDre | has the thing for trial account too |
| 02:51.19 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 02:56.33 | |Shadow| | thats nice |
| 02:56.37 | |Shadow| | the ~seen thing |
| 02:56.43 | |Shadow| | nice idea :P |
| 02:57.07 | |Shadow| | who ever wrote that, i give thee a cookie for coming up with a good idea. |
| 02:57.10 | |Shadow| | im off to sleep, nn :P |
| 02:58.19 | zenzelezz | it's only been around on IRC since what, the beginning? :-o |
| 02:58.29 | |Shadow| | noes |
| 02:58.31 | |Shadow| | i never seen that |
| 02:58.38 | zenzelezz | trust me, it's quite old |
| 02:58.39 | |Shadow| | and i've been useing irc since i was like 6 years old |
| 02:58.51 | |Shadow| | meh, maybe i've been living under a rock or something. |
| 02:59.07 | zenzelezz | it's not an IRC feature in itself, but very common in tons of scripts/bots |
| 02:59.20 | |Shadow| | yea |
| 02:59.26 | |Shadow| | i write alot of info bots myself :P |
| 02:59.33 | |Shadow| | great fun |
| 03:00.21 | |Shadow| | expecially sockets, sockets are teh win :P |
| 03:00.26 | |Shadow| | oh well sleepy time, nn. |
| 03:01.09 | Thunder_Child | nn |Shadow| |
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| 03:07.39 | Garoun|Loupana | I looks like a typo Pyhber |
| 03:07.53 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm going to log back in and see for sure |
| 03:09.43 | Garoun|Loupana | yep it's definately a bug in teh framexml file |
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| 03:12.26 | Kaso | oh man! they nerfed my invisibility pots |
| 03:12.56 | Kaso | Well, the gave it a wtfawesome graphic, but made it so you cant see peopl |
| 03:13.50 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm something really screwy with the [modifier] option |
| 03:14.06 | Garoun|Loupana | shift just picks up my action buttons |
| 03:16.25 | Garoun|Loupana | scratch that |
| 03:16.33 | Garoun|Loupana | it appears it isn't implemented yet |
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| 03:29.36 | Kaso | invis pots are sexy now: http://kasoo.net/filez/invis.avi |
| 03:40.35 | Kirkburn | Wheee, I have a wolfhead hat :D |
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| 03:41.50 | Kirkburn | Kaso, nice movie |
| 03:47.27 | Thunder_Child | does anyone know of a lightweight mod that extends the friends list past it's max and has realtime monitoring of on/off wow? |
| 03:47.47 | Gryphen | cant |
| 03:48.10 | Thunder_Child | that doesnt sound right |
| 03:48.12 | Gryphen | guess with constant /whos |
| 03:48.24 | Thunder_Child | not constant periodic |
| 03:52.44 | Thunder_Child | how does wow keep the flist updated? |
| 03:54.05 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: i think it checks it's validity whenever the character is logged on |
| 03:54.39 | Esamynn | or did you mean how does it keep online status up-to-date? |
| 03:54.52 | Thunder_Child | 2nd |
| 03:54.56 | Shadowed | i'd imagine it's event driven |
| 03:55.14 | Thunder_Child | can it be taped into? |
| 03:55.42 | Thunder_Child | woot for spelling |
| 03:56.11 | Esamynn | hmm, lets see, FRIENDLIST_UPDATE and FRIENDLIST_SHOW are used in FriendsFrame.lua, but I don't know anything about them |
| 03:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | They need to release their linux client :( |
| 03:56.18 | MentalPower | how do you comment out a line in an svn passwd file? |
| 03:56.30 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower, you mean a .htpasswd file? |
| 03:56.47 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, that sounds like it uses your current friends list |
| 03:57.08 | Shadowed | Thunder_Child if yourgoal is to replicate blizzards? you need to use who's |
| 03:57.11 | MentalPower | I dunno, its formatted like "userName:someHashOfThePassword" |
| 03:57.15 | Esamynn | you were asking about the friendlist right? |
| 03:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower, yeah, that'd be htpasswd. Answer is: "you can't" |
| 03:57.26 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 03:57.29 | MentalPower | Thunder_Child: or you can add/remove people on the fly |
| 03:57.45 | Thunder_Child | well i just want it to beable to hold past the current max |
| 03:58.03 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: so I can't temporarily remove a user entry without actually deleting it? |
| 03:58.18 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower, you could always change the username. |
| 03:58.27 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower, userREMOVEMEname:password |
| 03:58.41 | MentalPower | nice one, thanks! |
| 04:00.04 | Shadowed | Thunder_Child: I guess technically you could use chat hooking, and modifying the friends list quickly to process the people over the extra limit to get the online/location status |
| 04:00.28 | Shadowed | IE, when the friend frame is open, you get the status of the server-side one, clear it, add the extra ones, process, clear, then display. but i'm not sure what kind of delay you'd have in time it takes to udpate |
| 04:00.58 | Thunder_Child | stagering /who's would be less trouble i would iimagine |
| 04:01.11 | Shadowed | Probably |
| 04:01.20 | Shadowed | although, the last time i tried working with who's i said fuck it and gave up |
| 04:01.41 | Kirkburn | Haha, characters of forums everywhere! http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,72119-0.html?tw=wn_index_6 |
| 04:01.43 | Inside | time() always returns the number of secs since the system epoch... or did I misunderstand that and it returns a table with everything broken down ito parts? |
| 04:01.54 | Shadowed | system epoch |
| 04:03.02 | Inside | how would you convert that to um... the date? 0_o |
| 04:03.08 | Shadowed | use date |
| 04:03.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You could do a lot of math on it |
| 04:03.21 | Inside | aah. |
| 04:03.22 | Inside | I see :P |
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| 04:08.39 | Thunder_Child | anyone know what the delay is between whos? |
| 04:09.41 | MentalPower | my guess is 5secs like AH queries |
| 04:10.29 | Thunder_Child | k, thanks |
| 04:11.37 | Shadowed | I heard 6s |
| 04:12.33 | Kirkburn | Thottbot looks rather odd today .... |
| 04:15.22 | Kirkburn | Possibly the worst WoW article I've ever read: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1163458880886&call_pageid=1163415767623&col=1163415767603 |
| 04:16.44 | Thunder_Child | wow, never heard of whorecraft |
| 04:16.52 | Thunder_Child | a whole wow porn site |
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| 04:18.47 | Thunder_Child | in episode format... |
| 04:21.37 | Inside | Is there a utility that can format a string to a systime? |
| 04:24.45 | Thunder_Child | meone needs to programin uncyclopedia.org |
| 04:25.24 | Inside | XD |
| 04:26.10 | Cairenn | anyone still have that link around to the "How many [whatever] does it take to kill [whoever]" CM post? |
| 04:28.20 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 04:28.49 | Cairenn | as in I can't remember exactly how it was entitled :p |
| 04:30.09 | Cairenn | come on Esamynn, you know how bizarre my thread link requests can be :p |
| 04:30.55 | Cairenn | at least I wasn't asking about dildos tonight :p |
| 04:31.06 | Shadowed | .... |
| 04:31.06 | Shadowed | wow |
| 04:31.07 | Cairenn | *waits for it* |
| 04:31.15 | Esamynn | hmm, it's not very often that you are athe only op online in here, normally there are a least a few more ops idling ;) |
| 04:31.21 | Esamynn | ........................................... |
| 04:32.18 | Cairenn | hmmm, good point, wonder where everyone is? |
| 04:32.35 | Cairenn | ahhh, I see, Dolby's here, but he isn't identified, so he isn't opped |
| 04:32.48 | Neuro_Medivh | WOW, Thottbot got a makeover |
| 04:33.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I wouldn't call that a makeover |
| 04:33.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd say they added an image to the homepage |
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| 04:33.44 | Neuro_Medivh | That's a makeover. A superficial change to the exterior that does nothing to change the interior =) |
| 04:33.59 | Guillotine | indeed |
| 04:34.10 | Guillotine | though if I had to chose, I wouldn't be imprinted with ads |
| 04:34.11 | Shadowed | I like thottbot |
| 04:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Minor change maybe :P |
| 04:34.19 | Shadowed | but mostly because it's better then alla for load speed |
| 04:34.30 | Guillotine | i love thottbot, but that new ad is hell on the eyes >< |
| 04:34.51 | Thunder_Child | i like wowhead, it has a very clean interface |
| 04:35.01 | chuckg | And doesn't chug at 1k a second. |
| 04:35.17 | ScytheBlade1 | What I'd give to have a copy of the WoWHead database... I'd even settle for the thottbot database |
| 04:35.20 | ScytheBlade1 | As full of crap as it is |
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| 04:46.08 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 04:46.08 | purl | :), Esamynn |
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| 04:46.09 | Cairenn | btw guys ... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47299894&postId=472464827&sid=1#0 |
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| 04:46.52 | Shadowed | wow |
| 04:46.52 | Shadowed | eyonix's post is gold |
| 04:47.54 | Kirkburn | Oooh, yay Windowblinds for Vista :D |
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| 04:49.13 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:49.32 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 04:49.43 | Arrowmaster | whats the url of the wowinterface page with the diffs of the different interface versions? |
| 04:49.59 | Cairenn | wdn.wowinterface.com |
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| 04:58.35 | Mike-N-Go_ | Hey |
| 04:59.14 | Esamynn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27883160&sid=1 O_o |
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| 05:02.35 | Mike-N-Go | Inside, ckknight, JoshBorke, MentalPower, Thunder_Child, norgs, and others: Thank you for your help on my addon, I finished it, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6139-AutoMailDirector.html |
| 05:04.11 | ckknight | you just did that to get a beta key |
| 05:04.12 | ckknight | we all know it. |
| 05:04.12 | Thunder_Child | Gratz Mike-N-Go |
| 05:04.15 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 05:04.17 | ckknight | grats |
| 05:04.29 | Xuerian | Grats :P |
| 05:04.33 | ScytheBlade1 | He also actually did it |
| 05:04.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Grats |
| 05:07.10 | Mike-N-Go | Come on, if were just going for a beta key, it would just be one line--DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Welcome to World of Warcraft "..UnitName("player").." of "..GetRealmName().."-"..UnitFactionGroup("player").."!") |
| 05:07.15 | Cairenn | wonder how long it'll take before someone asks me for a translation |
| 05:07.37 | Thunder_Child | can we take bets? |
| 05:07.42 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: Can I get that translation you have been talking about? |
| 05:07.46 | Mike-N-Go | :P |
| 05:07.47 | Antiarc | Good lord. Umbrafen Eels are brutal to rogues. |
| 05:08.05 | Cairenn | Mike-N-Go: you don't even know wtf I'm talking about :p |
| 05:08.14 | Xuerian | lol, Cairenn. |
| 05:08.25 | Xuerian | What languages are they, anyway? |
| 05:08.33 | Cairenn | it ... gaelic |
| 05:08.40 | Xuerian | Ooooh... |
| 05:08.51 | Xuerian | I wanna learn that at some point <.< |
| 05:09.10 | Cairenn | very old traditional wedding blessing |
| 05:09.51 | Antiarc | Whoa. Mobs with linked health, twin emps style. Awesome. |
| 05:09.53 | Xuerian | Just something you know, or do you know more of the language? |
| 05:09.54 | Esamynn | Cairenn: you cheated by editing your post :P |
| 05:10.18 | Cairenn | Esamynn: I did, I had to find it again, hate it when I mess up the spelling, so needed to verify |
| 05:10.26 | Cairenn | Xuerian: look at my name |
| 05:10.47 | Xuerian | I take it it's gaelic? |
| 05:10.49 | Cairenn | my on-line name is 11C Scottish Gaelic |
| 05:11.03 | Xuerian | Ah ^^; |
| 05:11.23 | Cairenn | I'm from Nova Scotia ... which is Latin for New Scotland |
| 05:11.44 | Cairenn | I have more than just a touch of the Celt in me |
| 05:11.55 | ckknight | good times |
| 05:12.04 | Xuerian | Tehee. Is your name pronounced the way it looks in english? |
| 05:12.04 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, you have seriously got to controll your son |
| 05:12.10 | Xuerian | 0.o |
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| 05:12.17 | Thunder_Child | Niall is out of controll |
| 05:12.23 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: heh |
| 05:12.39 | Cairenn | Xuerian: depends on how you think it's pronounced |
| 05:13.33 | Xuerian | Karen? >.> .... Though due to my own naming I always think kyren. >.< |
| 05:13.52 | Kirkburn | Ooh, Windowblinds has a funky new interface now ... hmm, might have to try it out on Vista some time |
| 05:14.00 | Cairenn | indeed, that would be the modern day english variant of it |
| 05:14.55 | Cairenn | although pronounce properly as it was then, it'd be more like Car-in |
| 05:15.19 | Thunder_Child | with a bit of an acent of cource |
| 05:15.25 | End | oh wow |
| 05:15.35 | End | SetAttribute("macrotext", ... |
| 05:16.01 | Xuerian | Nifty >.> ....... /facinationofthemoment:allthingsceltic. |
| 05:16.45 | Cairenn | I don't know as much Gaelic as I wish I did, but I know some |
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| 05:17.26 | Xuerian | Learn it from parents or... ? |
| 05:17.26 | Thunder_Child | my former linux teacher spoke gaelic, he was irish and told me he would translate it any time i needed to |
| 05:17.29 | MentalPower | ok, I'll bite. Whats the translation? |
| 05:17.54 | Cairenn | "A thousand welcomes to you with your marriage kerchief, may you be healthy all your days. May you be blessed with long life and peace, may you grow old with goodness, and with riches." |
| 05:18.48 | MentalPower | kerchief? |
| 05:19.16 | Cairenn | ancient wedding blessing ... han-dfasting ... |
| 05:19.51 | Cairenn | hand-fasting* |
| 05:19.51 | Thunder_Child | Bionn dha insint ar sceal agus dha leagan deag ar amhran |
| 05:20.15 | Antiarc | Man, I hope they up the # of charges per poison application. |
| 05:20.27 | Antiarc | I'm blowing through an application of Deadly - 120 charges - in 9 minutes. |
| 05:21.38 | Cairenn | hey norgs |
| 05:21.47 | Cairenn | happily doped up on pain meds I trust? |
| 05:22.58 | Kirkburn | "Ewerl wekeemlee memmigleil meeril muterl m'urgil im'chl werlgirglee im'chmole, mutrrgo'l muterl muro'l im'cheglmil m'urgl im'chl ewerugl. Werlgule muterl muro'l weutuuuul m'urgil uruglrlle murugl mutrrgil memmnuglil, mutrrgo'l muterl urugll urglmil m'urgil weutugrgil, mutrrgil m'urgil urglemugl." |
| 05:23.05 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 05:23.08 | Kirkburn | That's a mouthful :P |
| 05:23.27 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, translate this truth: |
| 05:23.27 | Thunder_Child | Go raibh maith agat mar gheall ar gach aon ni rinneas duinn |
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| 05:23.38 | ckknight | Pogue mahon. |
| 05:23.49 | Cairenn | ummm, no? |
| 05:24.13 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 05:25.05 | norgs | took a couple of panadol |
| 05:26.09 | Cairenn | besides, the only real blessing you need to know is Slainte! |
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| 05:34.25 | Guillotine | hey Thunder_Child: grats! you made it to second most participating person in Wowi-lounge yesterday (http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowi-lounge.html.gz) despite the fact you barely know any lua :P |
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| 05:34.41 | Guillotine | yesterday was a slow day. somehow I get #17 |
| 05:35.06 | Guillotine | <3 that page |
| 05:35.20 | Guillotine | WOOHOO! "Another old yeller was Guillotine, who shouted 9.7% of the time!" I WIN! |
| 05:35.21 | [Cu]Werik | I slept from 2pm to 2 am |
| 05:35.24 | [Cu]Werik | it was a good day |
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| 05:36.07 | Kirkburn | "Kirkburn seems to be sad at the moment: 9.0% lines contained sad faces. :(" |
| 05:36.19 | Shadowed | lol |
| 05:36.28 | ckknight | lol, Kirkburn |
| 05:36.39 | Kirkburn | lol, and that was another one! |
| 05:36.43 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 05:36.54 | Kirkburn | "cladhaire has quite a potty mouth. 0.3% words were foul language. " |
| 05:37.03 | Shadowed | haha |
| 05:37.29 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:37.37 | Tem | Kirkburn, ? |
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| 05:40.07 | Cairenn | oh, I do like the random quote it picked for me :) |
| 05:40.57 | Xuerian | Hm, must figure out how to activate stats for other channels... >..> |
| 05:41.14 | Cairenn | you have to ask purl's kind owner |
| 05:41.19 | Cairenn | ~timriker |
| 05:41.20 | purl | i heard timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 05:41.21 | Xuerian | Oh <.< |
| 05:41.30 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, whoever posted that Kiwi movie earlier, that was a cute movie |
| 05:41.36 | Cairenn | it was |
| 05:41.47 | Xuerian | danke Cairenn. |
| 05:41.58 | Cairenn | bitte Xuerian |
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| 05:43.47 | DrDre | lol sorry |
| 05:43.50 | DrDre | having BNC issues |
| 05:43.54 | DrDre | its acting dumb as hell |
| 05:44.20 | DrDre | but i think its working now at least O.o it kept fucking my password and wouldnt let me login twice |
| 05:44.30 | Cairenn | heh |
| 05:44.36 | DrDre | everytime i wanted to login had to restart process or it said wrong password |
| 05:44.42 | DrDre | but soon as i restarted it, it would let me in |
| 05:45.01 | DrDre | not even sure what i jus did exactly but heh its let me login twice in a row |
| 05:47.13 | Cairenn | you're, ummm, login is rather ... pointed |
| 05:47.16 | Cairenn | your* |
| 05:47.41 | DrDre | ? |
| 05:47.54 | Cairenn | "(12:42:22 AM) DrDre [i=vega27@go.fuck.yourself.thnx.org] entered the room." |
| 05:47.57 | DrDre | lol |
| 05:48.14 | DrDre | dirty.pussy.is.c0ntag1o.us |
| 05:48.17 | DrDre | which you think is better :P |
| 05:48.29 | MentalPower | o.O |
| 05:48.41 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 05:49.12 | Cairenn | man, good thing I've got a sense of humour, hmm? |
| 05:49.20 | MentalPower | indeed |
| 05:49.21 | DrDre | lol |
| 05:49.27 | DrDre | I kinda like this one better anyways |
| 05:49.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i hope they upgrade the ptr to 2.0.2 sometime :[ |
| 05:49.45 | Tem | they won't |
| 05:49.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | also i want my transfer to go through |
| 05:49.46 | DrDre | yeah its buggy as hell >< |
| 05:49.48 | MentalPower | they won't |
| 05:49.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | why's that? |
| 05:49.55 | DrDre | i jus want some patch to fix bugs! |
| 05:50.03 | MentalPower | cause the patch is 2.0.1 |
| 05:50.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to test out the real mangle |
| 05:50.07 | MentalPower | and BC is 2.0.2 |
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| 05:50.10 | Tem | 2.0.2 is the version with expansion content |
| 05:50.20 | DrDre | its annoying 50% arena matches are Blades Edge and we cant enter that one |
| 05:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | uh they can still apply the changes from 2.0.2 to the ptr |
| 05:50.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | since they'll have to for the live version |
| 05:50.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can't have 2 different versions of spells and stuff |
| 05:50.53 | DrDre | what mrrabies means |
| 05:50.57 | DrDre | in PTR |
| 05:51.05 | DrDre | the old talents are there, rogue 41 subt is ClOS |
| 05:51.08 | DrDre | and not shadowstep |
| 05:51.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and dire bear is still only 360% more armor |
| 05:51.24 | Thunder_Child | "cladhaire spoke a total of 1786 words! |
| 05:51.24 | Thunder_Child | cladhaire's faithful follower, Thunder_Child, didn't speak so much: 877 words. " |
| 05:51.27 | End | Mr_Rabies2: 2.0.2 I don't think is coming out til the -expansion- comes out |
| 05:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | and 12whatever more hp |
| 05:51.28 | Thunder_Child | faithfull? |
| 05:51.42 | DrDre | yeah but they need to least give us some version with the correct talents :( |
| 05:51.48 | End | (at least, that's my guess) |
| 05:51.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | that doesn't seem to make sense to me end |
| 05:51.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | why test an outdated version |
| 05:52.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | if when you apply the new version it's gonna be broken |
| 05:52.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | possibly more than the outdated one |
| 05:52.28 | End | it's probably getting fixes too |
| 05:52.34 | Tem | Mr_Rabies actually, what they're doing is making changes to 2.0.1 and then merging them into 2.0.2 |
| 05:52.47 | Kirkburn | Lol, I just noticed ... "Kirkburn seems to be sad at the moment: 9.0% lines contained sad faces. :( " ..... and also .... "Kirkburn isn't a sad person either, smiling 27.2% of the time. " :D |
| 05:52.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | well they need to get the new talents on the ptr regardless |
| 05:52.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | and all the new spells and stuff |
| 05:53.07 | Tem | Kirkburn, where are you getting that from? |
| 05:53.07 | Kirkburn | It appears I have massive mood swings |
| 05:53.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to try the real mangle and stuf |
| 05:53.15 | Kirkburn | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/wowi-lounge.html.gz |
| 05:53.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe you're just an emotional guy |
| 05:54.08 | Kirkburn | \o/ |
| 05:54.30 | DrDre | woot im 12th and i barely speak in here! |
| 05:54.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean how can we be sure when 2.0.2 for non-expansion comes out it won't be broke to hell |
| 05:55.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | and if 2.0.2 doesn't come out as the live patch then i'll probably just cancel till bc |
| 05:55.19 | Tem | Cair's random quote is awesome |
| 05:55.23 | Tem | "this is an mod author community channel, not a wowi channel" |
| 05:55.27 | DrDre | lol |
| 05:55.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate DrDre |
| 05:55.37 | purl | add it! |
| 05:55.41 | DrDre | rofl |
| 05:56.39 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, you are under a misconception |
| 05:56.58 | Neuro_Medivh | 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 are being developed in tandem |
| 05:57.14 | Neuro_Medivh | they are deliberate different patches |
| 05:57.23 | Neuro_Medivh | 2.0.2 is simply a superset of 2.0.1 |
| 05:57.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | well they need to get the right version of things in :/ |
| 05:57.34 | End | that was my interpretation as well |
| 05:57.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they don't by the time it goes live i'll cancel |
| 05:57.41 | Neuro_Medivh | and that's why they are TESTING |
| 05:57.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | just because it's boring |
| 05:57.44 | Neuro_Medivh | no you won't |
| 05:58.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i will, i'll just wait till i buy bc to resubscribe |
| 05:58.35 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, no, you'll threaten and bluster, but in the end, you'll sit it out.. especially since it's so soon till BC comes out |
| 05:58.47 | Neuro_Medivh | but regardless, 2.0.1 is 2.0.2 without BC |
| 05:58.49 | Neuro_Medivh | that's all |
| 05:58.55 | Neuro_Medivh | both have different builds |
| 05:58.56 | End | when is 2.0.1 even supposed to be released? |
| 05:59.01 | Neuro_Medivh | before BC |
| 05:59.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | no it's not, it's missing a lot of talents and stuff |
| 05:59.06 | End | I know -that- |
| 05:59.08 | Neuro_Medivh | that's all they've said |
| 05:59.25 | Cairenn | you know the answer End ... "when it's ready(TM)" |
| 05:59.30 | End | hmm |
| 05:59.48 | End | well, they've given an actual release date for TBC |
| 05:59.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd cancel right now if it was up, since my account doesn't lapse until like xmas |
| 06:00.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | gives me plenty of time to decide if i want to wait on bc to play again or not |
| 06:00.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | not because i'm trying to make a statement |
| 06:00.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | just because mangle's subpar in 2.0.1 and other stuff |
| 06:01.20 | Neuro_Medivh | shrug, depends on what you're upset about 2.0.1.... |
| 06:01.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not upset, i just want the changes that 2.0.2 brought about |
| 06:01.53 | Neuro_Medivh | like? |
| 06:01.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | no matter what version number they use |
| 06:02.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | bear having more armor, decent mangle, shredding attacks taking away more energy from shred |
| 06:02.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | not sure since i haven't tried it but potions, etc in forms |
| 06:02.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | the others i know aren't in 2.0.1 yet |
| 06:02.54 | Neuro_Medivh | how do you know bears have more armor and such? |
| 06:03.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | because they do in beta |
| 06:03.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | 450% more armor compared to 360% more |
| 06:03.22 | End | I know you can't use dreamless sleep potions in form...but that one doesn't matter I would think ;p |
| 06:03.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're at 360% on 2.0.1 |
| 06:03.48 | End | oh wow |
| 06:03.50 | End | oh wait |
| 06:04.04 | Neuro_Medivh | Maybe they're going back to 360% on patch day, ever think of that? =) |
| 06:04.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | they better not |
| 06:04.25 | End | bear form got buffed |
| 06:04.35 | End | I didn't even know! |
| 06:04.38 | End | until now |
| 06:04.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | why'd they move up to 450% in 2.0.2 to just dash our hopes into the rocks |
| 06:04.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | a lot of stuff got buffed in 2.0.2 that hasn't been applied to 2.0.1 yet |
| 06:04.53 | nymbia | it's beta, they're rebalancing things all the time. |
| 06:04.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | those things are all that i want to carry over |
| 06:05.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, there's no reason to kill our armor back down |
| 06:05.13 | Neuro_Medivh | Hey, I'm a mage, in beta I had invis, knock, and a ton of other stuff that got 'adjusted' =) |
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| 06:05.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Maybe those bonuses are for 61+ bears? |
| 06:05.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless they give us parry and block 450% is about what we need |
| 06:05.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 06:05.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's the base dire bear thing |
| 06:06.07 | End | wow! |
| 06:06.16 | End | I have 16.5k armor in beta |
| 06:06.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | not bad |
| 06:06.25 | End | and almost 7k hp |
| 06:06.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd have more than that probably |
| 06:06.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | but not bad |
| 06:06.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got like 12000 on live |
| 06:06.43 | End | I'm almost 74% damage mitigation |
| 06:06.44 | nymbia | yeah, most druids i've talked to have upwards of 18k |
| 06:06.49 | End | I'm 13.4k on live |
| 06:06.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | really? |
| 06:06.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 06:06.57 | End | I'm still level 60 on beta |
| 06:07.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope they apply these changes is all i'm saying |
| 06:07.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | otherwise i'll just wait for them |
| 06:07.26 | End | anyways |
| 06:07.37 | End | at my level, 18k armor wouldn't do me anything |
| 06:07.45 | End | I think around 16k you hit 75% |
| 06:07.49 | Cairenn | I'm still level 52 on Beta ... |
| 06:08.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | start a new char or are you just lazy? :P |
| 06:08.18 | End | once again though, this is all at 60, ..higher armor would mean more |
| 06:08.22 | End | er |
| 06:08.26 | End | higher level would mean more armor |
| 06:08.30 | Cairenn | neither, don't *want* to level, not until it goes live |
| 06:08.34 | End | since I'd probably have better gear |
| 06:08.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | excuses excuses |
| 06:08.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 06:08.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't blame you though |
| 06:08.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | 52's a chore when there's people to level with |
| 06:08.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | without, i'd avoid that crap |
| 06:09.12 | Cairenn | no, trying to make sure I don't burn out on it again, like I did from the original CB -> Live |
| 06:09.23 | Cairenn | when it finally actually released, I was bored of it |
| 06:09.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i'm burned out now |
| 06:09.42 | Cairenn | well, not burned out, but bored |
| 06:09.43 | End | I've done barely little leveling in TBC beta...I'm...not even half way to 61 |
| 06:09.53 | End | I've mostly been coding AddOns :) |
| 06:10.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats why if the talent changes don't hit live until january i'll probably cancel and pick up bc for them |
| 06:12.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | graargh |
| 06:12.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've had the copy status page autorefreshing for a few hours now |
| 06:12.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | booooored |
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| 06:35.49 | Cairenn | hah! |
| 06:35.51 | Cairenn | http://forums.wowglider.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42500&whichpage=1 |
| 06:36.27 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, reading that thread now, it's awesome |
| 06:37.03 | Cairenn | sorry to anyone in the channel that doesn't see a problem with it, but I'm sitting here with a big ol' grin on my face, serves 'em right! |
| 06:38.15 | DrDre | lol |
| 06:38.22 | DrDre | ill never hack/bot on wow |
| 06:38.24 | Thunder_Child | blizz should take it a step further and NOT disble the recuring subscription |
| 06:38.31 | Thunder_Child | disable* |
| 06:38.36 | DrDre | i did it for XI and got caught once, stopped fully there :X |
| 06:38.40 | Neuro_Medivh | legally they have to |
| 06:38.43 | Kirkburn | Yay!!! :D |
| 06:38.53 | foxlit | can't charge for what you're not providing, really |
| 06:39.01 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, no, the person is responsible for that |
| 06:39.07 | Thunder_Child | even says so |
| 06:39.42 | Kirkburn | Oh wonderful, lots of bans |
| 06:39.52 | Shadowed | wow Cairenn |
| 06:39.56 | Shadowed | linking illegal bots! |
| 06:40.01 | Neuro_Medivh | You can't legally charge and not perform service, TC |
| 06:40.16 | Kaligar | Dont people realise that gm dont just ban people they sit there and watch activity |
| 06:40.17 | Neuro_Medivh | nothing in the WoW EULA can override that |
| 06:40.39 | Kaligar | and if glide is like any other bot program you can spot a botter a mile away |
| 06:40.43 | Neuro_Medivh | you can refuse to refund any moneys already paid, but you can't accept any new monies |
| 06:40.46 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, I think linking posts showing people being banned for it is okay :P |
| 06:40.54 | Shadowed | sshhhh Kirkburn! |
| 06:41.33 | DrDre | im sure everyone knows the url anyways :P (well i didnt know the url i jus knew there was SOME program like that) |
| 06:41.38 | foxlit | Wonder if anyone on that topic posted "but I'm innocent" on forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 06:41.45 | foxlit | Would've beeen darn ironic |
| 06:41.49 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, i bet you can |
| 06:42.03 | Neuro_Medivh | TC, I'm talking basic contract law |
| 06:42.08 | Kirkburn | Waitasec, there's lots of talk of bannings going on atm ... Blizz must be having fun :) |
| 06:42.13 | Osagasu | Personally, I wouldcharge an extra so many dollars to the account. If the person is using game time cards, go through a bill collection agency. |
| 06:42.36 | Thunder_Child | true, a contract can only go so far |
| 06:42.42 | Kirkburn | (e.g. 'Linux' bannings, someone on #wowace, ...) |
| 06:42.48 | Osagasu | I'd say "Any offense that forces a ban shall also incur a penalty of $20 on account closure." |
| 06:42.49 | [Cu]Werik | These bannings are pointless. You can level up a character in 4 days. It's not a big deal |
| 06:42.59 | foxlit | Hardly |
| 06:43.01 | Shadowed | I love reading the ban forums |
| 06:43.21 | Shadowed | "I leveled 2 characters to 60 manually, both are in naxx/aq40 gear....and i glided a warlock to 54 and got banned" |
| 06:43.32 | foxlit | You take out a rather chunk of that infrastructure, plus you get to pocket the subscription fees. |
| 06:43.34 | ckknight_ | glided? |
| 06:43.35 | Kirkburn | Then they have to do that [Cu]Werik, why should they make it easy for them? |
| 06:43.36 | Neuro_Medivh | Yeah, I love to go HAHAHAHAH |
| 06:43.38 | Shadowed | it's amazing they think because they manually leveled 2 60 chars they can "Steal" the 3rd |
| 06:43.40 | foxlit | s/rather/rather large |
| 06:43.44 | Neuro_Medivh | it's a popular bot, ck |
| 06:43.51 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, Gilded is the program |
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| 06:43.56 | ckknight | Neuro_Medivh, I don't bot, so I don't know these things |
| 06:43.59 | Shadowed | Glider is the program actually |
| 06:43.59 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:44.06 | Shadowed | Glided just means gliding to 60 using the glider program |
| 06:44.08 | Neuro_Medivh | I'd never heard about it till these bannings happened |
| 06:44.18 | Neuro_Medivh | but MAN they're funny |
| 06:44.20 | [Cu]Werik | Kirkburn, I'm just saying, it has barely any use:) |
| 06:44.24 | Kirkburn | [Cu]Werik, think about the other angle - more money for Blizz :P |
| 06:44.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | i once was a glider, but i learned it totally wasn't worth it and have since stopped |
| 06:44.55 | Kirkburn | \o/ Glad to hear it though, Mr_Rabies2 :) |
| 06:44.58 | Neuro_Medivh | I wonder if they are checking for registration keys? |
| 06:45.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | when the last ban wave hit i was like "eh screw this, not worth it" |
| 06:45.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | since i manually leveled 95% of my hunter anyway |
| 06:45.25 | Neuro_Medivh | scan the registry, if they see the glider reg key, they ban |
| 06:45.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | doubt it, don't think they can do that |
| 06:45.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus glider hides itself like a rootkit |
| 06:45.45 | Kirkburn | They can check open programs |
| 06:45.53 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh |
| 06:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it hides itself from the process list too |
| 06:46.05 | Kirkburn | Not well enough, apparently |
| 06:46.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's mostly player detection i'm betting |
| 06:46.17 | foxlit | If you were writing a bot that is supposed to hide itself against being hidden, you wouldn't use the registry in the first place |
| 06:46.25 | foxlit | Darn it, it's too early |
| 06:46.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | they implemented a warden sniffer long after i quit |
| 06:46.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | supposedly warden wasn't picking it up |
| 06:46.45 | Kirkburn | [Cu]Werik, I know what you mean, but it's better than nothing imo |
| 06:46.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | it still might not be, but hell if i know |
| 06:47.06 | Shadowed | Warden wasnt picking it up for a while apparently due to how it works |
| 06:47.13 | Shadowed | but, it's not very hard to detect a bot |
| 06:47.23 | Shadowed | any human will notice that somethings off just watching them for a few seconds |
| 06:47.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | once the first ban wave hit i realized i could have lost everything worthwhile i've done in the last few years |
| 06:47.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:47.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | player detection is the biggy |
| 06:47.38 | Kirkburn | I'm glad that the EU realms have stayed so relatively 'clean' |
| 06:47.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll tell you though, my hunter was damn believable |
| 06:47.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i watched it in 3rd person from my buddy's computer |
| 06:48.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | but that's because you can kill anything you want on a hunter with one macro |
| 06:48.18 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 06:48.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | Target next target, hunter's mark, pet attack, autoshot |
| 06:48.56 | Kirkburn | It's not as if Blizzard can't dissect glider themselves |
| 06:49.01 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 06:49.04 | foxlit | and that's where it gets evil, since no non-afk hunter will leave it at autoshot :) |
| 06:49.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do sometimes fox |
| 06:49.19 | Neuro_Medivh | if they wanna match slouken vs Mercury, my money is on slouken |
| 06:49.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll be reading forums over here |
| 06:49.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | and just hit 3 then read |
| 06:49.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | until i hear something dy |
| 06:49.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | die |
| 06:49.31 | Shadowed | slouken doesn't do bot detection I'd imagine? |
| 06:49.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 06:49.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | bekyn is the big GM guy that handles bots |
| 06:49.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | he's a smug mofo |
| 06:50.00 | Kirkburn | Wunderbar, and the forums link to cracked software too |
| 06:50.03 | Neuro_Medivh | doubt it, but the point is, I'd bet the blizz coders are better than the glider coders |
| 06:50.06 | Kirkburn | Such morals ... |
| 06:50.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | kirk, really? |
| 06:50.23 | Kirkburn | Some posts do |
| 06:50.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | back when i did it they didn't support anything illegal |
| 06:50.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:50.37 | Shadowed | well, Neuro_Medivh theres point where they can't increase detection without to many false positives, or it degrades the game play to much |
| 06:50.49 | Kirkburn | Nah, people posted the links, not official stuff |
| 06:51.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | that being said i've done things much more illegal than run a dumb bot for a few hours that i'd rather not go into |
| 06:51.26 | nymbia | lol |
| 06:51.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing to do with wow though |
| 06:51.37 | Kirkburn | Makes me wonder why you just mentioned that .... |
| 06:51.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything i do with wow now is 100% legal now, it's just not worth irreplacably losing an account |
| 06:52.06 | Kirkburn | "I've got a giant secret that I can't tell any of you, but hell, why not ask me anyway, see what happens" |
| 06:52.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've cut down on newsgroups and torrents |
| 06:52.22 | Shadowed | lol kirk |
| 06:52.33 | Neuro_Medivh | I torrent like a mofo |
| 06:52.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm honestly worried i might still get the banhammer |
| 06:52.58 | Neuro_Medivh | just the other day, I torrented this file from Blizzard for BC |
| 06:53.01 | Osagasu | Blizz might be better coders, but they can only change their code so often. Glide is a very small, very flexible program. |
| 06:53.08 | Shadowed | actually Osagasu |
| 06:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | even though i haven't run the bot for months now and will hopefully never sink that low again |
| 06:53.25 | Shadowed | from what i've read of Warden, it can/does download new code from blizzard |
| 06:53.37 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies good to hear, and I'm sure you're out of the woods |
| 06:53.41 | Shadowed | meaning, theoretically, they can release a new version to detect the change |
| 06:53.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | well yeah, glider had some code that it unhooked itself when warden changed |
| 06:53.50 | Kirkburn | I doubt they would check that far back now |
| 06:53.50 | Osagasu | And everything they do with Wardran is Reactionary. |
| 06:54.05 | Shadowed | which is how it should be anyway |
| 06:54.16 | Kirkburn | That's a point, I get a scanning thing appear when I log into TBC |
| 06:54.27 | Kirkburn | And it sometimes complains about not being able to download |
| 06:54.28 | Shadowed | actually, I think thats the anti-virus thing |
| 06:54.39 | Kirkburn | Ah yes, the trojan scanner |
| 06:54.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | they noticed there were 2 different versions of warden when mercury first implemented the warden detection |
| 06:55.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still check the forums occasionally to see when the next banwave hits |
| 06:55.17 | Kirkburn | Warden doesn't need to be proactive, it just needs to block the stuff that exists now |
| 06:55.17 | Shadowed | I just find it interesting |
| 06:55.29 | Shadowed | it's an interesting race between the hacker and the banner |
| 06:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know why it went into my mind to do that |
| 06:55.53 | Kirkburn | plus I'm sure Blizz is trying to secure the code more and more as they go along |
| 06:55.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | my friends all glided a few chars from 1-60 nonstop |
| 06:56.03 | Kirkburn | (I wonder if it works perfectly with TBC?) |
| 06:56.12 | norgs | i've always thought if i wanted to write a bot, i'd hack up wine to do it |
| 06:56.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i was too paranoid so i did like 30 mins of automated then an hour of me playing etc |
| 06:56.19 | foxlit | Haha, beta accounts for glider authors? |
| 06:56.26 | Shadowed | I did a bot in Java once for the hell of it |
| 06:56.27 | norgs | wine under linux, wow under wine |
| 06:56.30 | Shadowed | it was slow |
| 06:56.50 | Shadowed | I did manage to get a sort of working bot for rogues that uses shoot bow to auto-align though |
| 06:56.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i made sure i wasn't a jerk when i was auto playing, i was always present and never killed quest mobs or anything |
| 06:57.31 | Kirkburn | I've not used my G15 macro keys yet, partly cause I'm not sure how, partly cause I worry about the consequences, and partly because there's something nice about pressing Crtl+1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 8, you're dead |
| 06:57.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | was such a dumb decision to buy it though |
| 06:57.47 | Shadowed | I though Glider was free? |
| 06:57.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah |
| 06:57.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's 25 bucks |
| 06:57.53 | Shadowed | it was WoWSharp that was paid |
| 06:57.56 | Shadowed | ah |
| 06:58.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | glider doesn't memory inject like wowsharp did |
| 06:58.11 | Kirkburn | "Pay to be banned", mmm, nice tagline ;) |
| 06:58.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | it does it via keypresses |
| 06:58.13 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn, they take over other keys on your keyboard...it aint really worth it |
| 06:58.16 | Shadowed | lol Kirkburn |
| 06:58.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's pretty genius how well it was designed |
| 06:58.40 | Thunder_Child | err...i mean in you key bindings |
| 06:58.45 | Thunder_Child | your* |
| 06:59.05 | Kirkburn | Made my first macro earlier ... I made G1 = go forward. So basically it does exactly what pressing 'up' does :P |
| 06:59.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | but no matter how well engineered a program is, it has faults |
| 06:59.15 | Shadowed | It's just an interesting race |
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| 06:59.32 | Thunder_Child | besides that G1 is all the way top left out of the way |
| 06:59.39 | foxlit | Rabies: axiom? |
| 06:59.49 | Kirkburn | Where the goal posts are constantly being moved, and the players have to pay to play. Oh, and one side gets infinite red cards |
| 06:59.50 | Thunder_Child | G15 or 12 would be easier |
| 06:59.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | soon as the last banwave (before this one) went out i quit that day |
| 07:00.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | axiom? |
| 07:00.09 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, true |
| 07:00.18 | foxlit | There's no supporting argument; you can only assume that's true. |
| 07:00.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 07:00.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean there's no way to guarantee that you won't be detected |
| 07:00.51 | Thunder_Child | Kirkburn, do you even use the LCD? |
| 07:00.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the guy that wrote it made that perfectly clear |
| 07:00.53 | Osagasu | I had no qualms against Easy UO. And quite frankly, I'd have no qualms against a macro program like it, too. I'd never use it to level, just to automated things like AH searching, crafting, BG queueing... Only problem it, it's heavily enforced in WoW |
| 07:01.02 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, yeah, I do use that at least |
| 07:01.09 | Kirkburn | Plus the backlighting is awesome |
| 07:01.10 | Shadowed | Osagasu: It's impossible to do BG queueing fyi |
| 07:01.19 | Thunder_Child | i dont...feels like such a waste for me to buy the damn thing |
| 07:01.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | i used it to make the level range between 45 and 55 a bit less painful |
| 07:01.41 | Kirkburn | I really should use more of it somehow |
| 07:01.41 | Shadowed | I was bored and tried to make something to do it...pretty much unless you park the character outside of the queue instance, you cant make it auto queue |
| 07:01.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | if only they'd implement some fun instances in that level range |
| 07:01.48 | Kirkburn | Oh wait! |
| 07:02.00 | Thunder_Child | like the usb ports the programalbe buttons and the LCD...thats about it |
| 07:02.02 | Kirkburn | I'm such a noob, why not make them cast my buffs ... |
| 07:02.02 | foxlit | ZF/Mara? |
| 07:02.07 | foxlit | and BRD at the top of that |
| 07:02.24 | Shadowed | also ST |
| 07:02.25 | Kirkburn | And one for each pet |
| 07:02.33 | [Cu]Werik | He said. Fun instance |
| 07:02.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | ZF's fun but it's only good for a few levels |
| 07:02.34 | Thunder_Child | if only there were 4, you could have one for each party memeber |
| 07:02.38 | Shadowed | haha [Cu]Werik |
| 07:02.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ST is terrible |
| 07:02.39 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 07:02.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and BRD is even worse |
| 07:02.45 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, true, true |
| 07:02.53 | Neuro_Medivh | BRD is awesome if you know what you're doing |
| 07:02.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | ughhh |
| 07:03.01 | foxlit | They all are, tbh. |
| 07:03.05 | Kirkburn | Although you could have 1-6, you, pet, p1, p2, p3, p4 |
| 07:03.05 | Shadowed | I loved ST, the first time I did it I did it with a group of 51s, was like rogue/mage/druid/warrior/priest |
| 07:03.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm never going to brd again |
| 07:03.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | ST's a nice environment |
| 07:03.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it takes WAY too damn long |
| 07:03.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | same with BRD |
| 07:03.27 | Shadowed | we killed the final boss in our second attempt...which is sad since all groups ive done with 55 suck and fail at it |
| 07:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | BRD's probably the biggest instance because of how much it stacks |
| 07:03.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | even bigger than AQ40 i bet |
| 07:03.53 | Shadowed | AQ40 is a lot of empty space |
| 07:03.58 | Shadowed | BRD has mobs basically everywhere |
| 07:04.00 | Thunder_Child | hmm...what about 5 buttons to target the raid group and 5 more to target each person in the group then the last set of buttons to cast the buffs |
| 07:04.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | AQ40's about as big as the barrens |
| 07:04.07 | foxlit | Maybe; but the trick in BRD that you basically don't need to go through all of it |
| 07:04.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | not for an emp run, but for quests, etc |
| 07:04.25 | Neuro_Medivh | there's 2-3 ways to get nearly everywhere except emp |
| 07:04.32 | Kirkburn | Interesting, Mercury says .... "They could buy me into shutting the product down" |
| 07:04.41 | Shadowed | ST isn't that bad if you have a group, but people have no concept of aggro management, so they out aggro the MT, the MT gets sleeped, and he goes and oowns everyone |
| 07:04.45 | foxlit | It's episodal. You're meant to get the key and the marshal on the first go, then go through the bar / emperor |
| 07:04.45 | Shadowed | lol |
| 07:04.47 | Shadowed | Kirkburn: Link? |
| 07:04.53 | Neuro_Medivh | I'll bet you money that Mercury runs a special 'custom' version, if he runs it at all |
| 07:04.55 | foxlit | Then return to windsor and escort him out of ther |
| 07:04.58 | Kirkburn | (http://forums.wowglider.com/viewtopic.43286) |
| 07:05.14 | Kirkburn | Tbh, that's almost extortion if he truly wanted it |
| 07:05.24 | Neuro_Medivh | windsor escort is crap =( |
| 07:05.32 | Shadowed | i dou'd it :p |
| 07:05.41 | Kirkburn | Neuro_Medivh, christ, that quest pissed me off for months! |
| 07:05.42 | Shadowed | did it with a paladin + me, did the entire quest minus UBRS! |
| 07:06.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i prefer Warlord's command over the windsor crap |
| 07:06.06 | foxlit | Depends on how you do Windsor |
| 07:06.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's harder, but if you can find a group, it's a TON more fun |
| 07:06.18 | Shadowed | lol |
| 07:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't tell you how many times i've had groups screw up windsor |
| 07:06.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm never going to brd again |
| 07:06.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hate that hellhole |
| 07:06.45 | foxlit | The boring way would be to clear his walk path, and then just deal with the script spawns; it isn't too bad |
| 07:06.46 | Osagasu | Shadowed: Not when you run past the Battlemasters. |
| 07:06.57 | Osagasu | :P |
| 07:06.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd spend 24 hours in gnomeregan to never step foot in blackrock mountain again |
| 07:07.17 | Shadowed | Clear to windsor, get the quest. Kill angerforge (died to the guard zerg), Ran back, killed Engineer ( died to the first pull! ), called it a day. Cleared the entire circle, cleared to windsor, did jailbreak, was done 10-15m later |
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| 07:07.30 | Kirkburn | Mr_Rabies2, you're .... you're crazy! |
| 07:07.44 | Kirkburn | Gnomeregan over BRD?! /me fetches the men in white coats |
| 07:07.51 | Shadowed | foxlit: Well, I wouldn't trust our ability to duo it with the scripted spawns + current ones, since she didnt have that great gear :p |
| 07:08.05 | Kirkburn | (I've never completed either, though) |
| 07:08.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like gnomeregan's second half |
| 07:08.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | doing both halves with the same group is nigh impossible |
| 07:08.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | first half is boring as hell |
| 07:08.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | second half is like raid level |
| 07:09.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | when you hit the mechanical sentries it all goes to hell |
| 07:09.12 | foxlit | Can solo the prison part on a mage |
| 07:09.16 | foxlit | nerf CoC, someone. |
| 07:10.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i absolutely hate maraudon's first half |
| 07:10.16 | foxlit | It's been mostly positive for me; but that's probably because I typically didn't do it at the right level bracket |
| 07:10.27 | Shadowed | I do it at 30 |
| 07:10.33 | Shadowed | and it's an awesome run |
| 07:10.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | a full mara run is like having a car battery attached to your nipples |
| 07:11.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | except less exciting |
| 07:11.29 | Kirkburn | And more painful? |
| 07:11.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | Copy Status: Pending |
| 07:11.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | graaargh |
| 07:11.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got nothing to do on live at this point |
| 07:11.53 | Shadowed | but that's because I enjoy going like this |
| 07:12.38 | Shadowed | "Okay guys, don't go near the edge...10 minutes later....*thinking to myself, why is the entire lower half missing for the next 30 yards.*....guys run |
| 07:13.16 | Shadowed | although, I did manage to find some spots where I can evade bug the mobs and save myself. suckers |
| 07:13.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl that always happens |
| 07:13.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i took a 30 buddy on there with my 60 druid, a 60 priest, and a 60 lock |
| 07:13.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | that was fun |
| 07:13.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | MC one, chuck him off a ledge, let him bring all the buddies on the way |
| 07:14.04 | foxlit | Cairenn, did Blizzard ever get back to you on the EU keys? :) |
| 07:14.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | then me aoe taunt while the lock hellfires |
| 07:14.10 | Cairenn | not yet |
| 07:14.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | kill about 40 mobs in a few seconds |
| 07:14.37 | Shadowed | doing some of the old instances was fun for the AQ war event |
| 07:14.39 | foxlit | Ah well, they will eventually. Thank you for the opportunity :) |
| 07:14.49 | Shadowed | getting DKP For spending a hour in deadmines was amusing |
| 07:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i still need the broodlord's head |
| 07:15.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i suppose i'll gather a pug or something and drop him some day |
| 07:15.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | just to do the quest |
| 07:15.16 | foxlit | pugs+vael=wipe? |
| 07:15.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | nahhh |
| 07:15.25 | Shadowed | lol |
| 07:15.31 | Shadowed | broodlord's head quest is fun |
| 07:15.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | not if you get a pug with people that are decent |
| 07:15.37 | Shadowed | btw |
| 07:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love the vael fight |
| 07:15.48 | Shadowed | what was the end result of repeatable quest XP? |
| 07:15.54 | Shadowed | (IE, AQ40 marks) |
| 07:16.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | all i know is |
| 07:16.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | horde get money for turning in marks of honor |
| 07:16.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and we don't :[ |
| 07:17.34 | Shadowed | THANKS 4 LETTUCE KOW BLIZZ |
| 07:18.34 | Kirkburn | Totally random note here, but I'm caffeined up atm, which reminded me about the french guy 'Cafeine' who was here months ago talking about putting some addons in 'Joystik' ... I wonder what happened about that |
| 07:18.53 | Kirkburn | (Joystik being a popular french PC mag) |
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| 07:21.27 | Cairenn | grrrr, what is with my internet tonight? |
| 07:21.50 | Kirkburn | And I thought you were ignoring me :P |
| 07:21.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | just call them and yell at mr rogers |
| 07:22.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll think you're crazy and reward you with free internet |
| 07:22.19 | Cairenn | yeah ... |
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| 07:23.32 | [Cu]Werik | Yay, Friends Season 1 Plot :P |
| 07:24.24 | Shadowed | you curse people are weird :p |
| 07:24.43 | [Cu]Werik | Are we? |
| 07:24.46 | Shadowed | yes |
| 07:24.55 | Shadowed | Cu obviously stands for Crazy uh |
| 07:24.57 | Shadowed | uhhh |
| 07:24.59 | Shadowed | something |
| 07:25.15 | Kirkburn | Ceerrraaazzzeeee Umbongos! |
| 07:25.20 | Shadowed | lol |
| 07:25.21 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 07:25.35 | [Cu]Werik | I'm like Joey |
| 07:25.43 | Shadowed | ~lart [Cu]Werik |
| 07:25.56 | Shadowed | ~lart [Cu]Werik |
| 07:26.51 | Cairenn | foxlit: as I was starting to say before I got so rudely disconnected again ... but given that the PTRs are up now, it's not quite so urgent any more, since mod authors can test/fix their mods using it |
| 07:27.14 | Shadowed | so why did Blizzard agree to it anyway, did they not think PTR's would be up so soon? |
| 07:27.21 | Cairenn | foxlit: not to say I'm not still following up on it, just that if worse comes to worse, there is at least that option |
| 07:27.50 | Cairenn | Shadowed: we'd been working on this for a while, was a matter of getting all the pieces in place |
| 07:28.04 | Shadowed | ahhhh |
| 07:28.16 | Cairenn | things like that don't happen over night |
| 07:28.26 | Kirkburn | They need people on the beta servers anyway, it's dead on there |
| 07:28.56 | Shadowed | Yeah I know, but not sure how long it would take. and they would probably still have some sort of idea as to how long the plan would take |
| 07:29.05 | Shadowed | Kirkburn: you're EU aren't you? |
| 07:29.14 | Kirkburn | Ja, ja |
| 07:29.29 | Shadowed | well, theres your first problem |
| 07:30.02 | Shadowed | Hellsfire US was lagging to the point that I could cast a spell once every 1-2 seconds ( which, when you're a DW warrior is slow ) |
| 07:30.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | ptrs are loaded with level 1s waiting on copy approval |
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| 07:30.47 | Shadowed | lol |
| 07:30.49 | Shadowed | of course |
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| 07:35.42 | ckknight | you know what I think? |
| 07:35.45 | ckknight | fuck those botters. |
| 07:35.49 | Shadowed | well |
| 07:35.53 | Shadowed | I can't read your mind |
| 07:35.56 | Shadowed | so i dont know what you think |
| 07:36.38 | Kirkburn | Lol, this episode of Family Guy just ended with Star Wars style film credits - It even referred to itself as a motion picture. Weeeeird ... |
| 07:36.50 | [Cu]Werik | Seriously, this tv serie is priceless. |
| 07:37.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | personally you have no right to complain to anyone when the bot says plain as day you're liable to be banned |
| 07:38.12 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, let me try .... "hmm, I wonder if they'll ever get wind of my nefarious plan to use Ace to turn everyone into my slaves. Muahahahahaaaaaaa etc etc" |
| 07:38.50 | Shadowed | kik |
| 07:38.50 | Shadowed | lol |
| 07:39.38 | Kirkburn | ckknight, what kind of guy *thinks* "muahahahahaaaaaa etc etc" ... freak =) |
| 07:39.45 | Jaxine | macro to cast cleanse on self? |
| 07:39.49 | Jaxine | brain fart |
| 07:39.49 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:40.03 | ckknight | Jaxine, /cast [target=player] Cleanse |
| 07:40.41 | Jaxine | muy bueno |
| 07:40.46 | Kirkburn | Was I not tuning into your thoughts? Hmm, must have been someone else /me rechecks his list of mind vision targets |
| 07:41.02 | Elkano | macro to apply poison to offhand? |
| 07:41.33 | Jaxine | i think /use [something something] Deadly Poison IV ? |
| 07:41.34 | Shadowed | right click your poison, click your weapon |
| 07:41.44 | ckknight | we all know I have my evil plot to turn everyone to the dark side (Ace, that is) |
| 07:41.47 | Shadowed | I'd imagine it's use the poison, then click your weapon |
| 07:41.52 | ckknight | I thought that was a given, Kirkburn |
| 07:41.57 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 07:43.24 | ckknight | my thoughts were on the botters and such. |
| 07:43.37 | Shadowed | yeah, but it's ace related |
| 07:43.40 | Shadowed | obviously |
| 07:43.46 | Jaxine | try this |
| 07:43.58 | Jaxine | um /use [target=Off Hand] Deadly Poison V |
| 07:44.04 | ckknight | no, that's not it |
| 07:44.19 | ckknight | prolly not, I'd think |
| 07:44.40 | Shadowed | I though target only accepts unit? |
| 07:44.46 | ckknight | it does, Shadowed |
| 07:45.00 | Jaxine | doesn't seem possible with the macros we have |
| 07:45.09 | Shadowed | yes it is |
| 07:45.22 | Shadowed | use the item, then you click the weapon, shouldnt be that hard |
| 07:45.25 | Neuro_Medivh | it would be /use 17 Deadly Poison V |
| 07:45.44 | Jaxine | hm /use Off Hand Deadly Poison V wouldn't work? |
| 07:46.00 | Neuro_Medivh | pretty sure there's a slot parameter you can add |
| 07:46.09 | Neuro_Medivh | slouken was talking about it the other day... |
| 07:46.17 | Jaxine | hm /use Off Hand http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44757854&sid=1#2Deadly Poison V wouldn't work? |
| 07:46.18 | Jaxine | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44757854&sid=1#2 |
| 07:46.19 | Neuro_Medivh | on the boards, one of the various threads |
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| 07:46.44 | Neuro_Medivh | that's for [equipped] |
| 07:46.47 | Neuro_Medivh | not target |
| 07:46.47 | Cairenn | oookay, I think this is someone's way of telling me that I need to go sleep or something ... night guys |
| 07:47.23 | DrDre | L O FUCKING L |
| 07:47.27 | DrDre | Cair youll like this post better |
| 07:47.34 | Thunder_Child | night Cairenn |
| 07:47.35 | Cairenn | ? |
| 07:47.36 | DrDre | http://forums.wowglider.com/viewtopic.43729 |
| 07:47.49 | DrDre | watching them all squirm over being banned is funny |
| 07:48.15 | Jaxine | i wonder if my coworker got banned |
| 07:48.27 | Cairenn | nope, don't like that one at all |
| 07:48.31 | Jaxine | don't think he uses glider |
| 07:48.35 | DrDre | i find it hilarious |
| 07:48.43 | Jaxine | outerspace or something |
| 07:48.50 | Cairenn | suicide isn't funny |
| 07:49.13 | Shadowed | eh |
| 07:49.30 | Shadowed | it could just be someone being overreactive/lying/stupid |
| 07:49.47 | ckknight | suicide is very funny. |
| 07:50.39 | ckknight | but Shadowed is right. |
| 07:50.50 | Shadowed | Honestly, I seriously doubt he had a gun in his mouth |
| 07:52.01 | ckknight | me too. |
| 07:52.25 | norgs | Suicide is not funny |
| 07:53.26 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, the use thing |
| 07:53.39 | DrDre | bah those "Hi its <name>" spam mails are breaking out of my spam box |
| 07:53.45 | Neuro_Medivh | it would be /use Deadly Poison V, followed by /use 16 or /use 17 |
| 07:53.58 | ckknight | http://www.whitestkids.com.nyud.net:8090/video2/abetterplace.mov |
| 07:54.00 | DrDre | thats 3 ive had to delete today |
| 07:54.20 | ckknight | ^-- regarding suicide in a funny manner |
| 07:56.07 | DrDre | my view on suicide, people who are serious dont go posting like that or saying "lifes a drag ima blow myself", those type of people jus do it to beg for attn |
| 07:56.14 | DrDre | and receive no pity from me |
| 07:57.23 | DrDre | anyways time for me to sleep i shoulda went a while ago ~.~ studieing ace2 >_> Gonna try to learn this all then make something :O |
| 07:57.26 | Elkano | hmmm.. maybe /use Deadly Poison V /use Off Hand ? |
| 07:57.30 | Shadowed | It's certainly not a funny thing if people are seriously going to do it, but the last people I will ever believe are the ones who post on the forums. It's like the joke of someone posting "I'm going to go kill myself now. Come back tomorrow for my new post" on a LJ! |
| 07:57.36 | Neuro_Medivh | it's NOT OFFHAND, it's the slot # |
| 07:57.49 | Neuro_Medivh | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47158303&sid=1&pageNo=1#10 for the exact post |
| 07:57.56 | norgs | i don't think they're serious either... i just don't see how it's possibly funny |
| 07:58.03 | Elkano | but it would break if there isn't any poison in your inventory :/ |
| 07:58.19 | Shadowed | if you're a rogue and you run out of poison, you should be slapped |
| 07:58.21 | Elkano | would so. mind asking the question in the macro thread? |
| 07:58.29 | ckknight | why would it break? |
| 07:59.22 | DrDre | Shadowed: lot of times im too lazy to go to vendor :p |
| 07:59.35 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, btw, I love how all these people banned for using glider are trying to put a positive spin on it. "You know, I'm glad I got banned, I can get back to real life now!" |
| 07:59.39 | DrDre | now if i run out of flash powders... my ass is heading there |
| 07:59.52 | Jaxine | i'm amazed at how hard my paladin hits now |
| 07:59.52 | DrDre | afk goodnight |
| 07:59.53 | Elkano | well, it can't use the poison so it would only use the weapon. if it's a weapon with charges it would use up a charge |
| 08:00.04 | Jaxine | getting a LOT of 1000+ hits |
| 08:00.08 | DrDre | Darn out of date test realms! |
| 08:00.08 | DrDre | Yes, it works in the next update. :) |
| 08:00.11 | DrDre | - slouken |
| 08:00.14 | DrDre | its broken on PTR |
| 08:00.23 | DrDre | the /use poison /use id |
| 08:00.45 | DrDre | night for real! |
| 08:01.11 | ckknight | Elkano, not with the new macros |
| 08:01.17 | ckknight | Elkano, as soon as one line fails, it stops. |
| 08:01.28 | Elkano | ah, k :) |
| 08:01.46 | Neuro_Medivh | actually, not true |
| 08:01.58 | ckknight | oh? |
| 08:02.16 | Neuro_Medivh | if a GCD spell fails, it blocks all other GCD spells |
| 08:02.18 | Neuro_Medivh | that's it |
| 08:02.33 | Elkano | but you still could do me a favour: I'm still looking for so to post the first three suggestions from http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=33904#post33904 to the US-UI forum (own thread or 2.0 suggestions) |
| 08:02.35 | Neuro_Medivh | items aren't affected |
| 08:03.18 | Elkano | well in that case, could someone ask in here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47158303&sid=1&pageNo=1#10 how to handle that case? |
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| 08:05.39 | Jaxine | http://jax2.zenblue.net/vancleef.avi |
| 08:05.44 | Jaxine | my paladin on PTR killing vancleef |
| 08:05.47 | Jaxine | 5/0/46 build |
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| 08:14.57 | Kirkburn | Iriel ... marrying ... today?! I had no idea! |
| 08:15.05 | Elkano | neither did I |
| 08:15.28 | Thunder_Child | "live on IRC" |
| 08:15.37 | Kirkburn | Blimey, well I hope he has a great day |
| 08:15.40 | Shadowed | what channel is the wedding in |
| 08:15.45 | Thunder_Child | webcam |
| 08:15.50 | Shadowed | pro |
| 08:15.55 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 08:16.14 | Thunder_Child | he better post a copy of it on youtube |
| 08:16.18 | Shadowed | ~comfort Esamynn |
| 08:16.20 | purl | There, there, Esamynn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 08:16.37 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I know for a fact he doesn't have any sort of computer with him :P |
| 08:16.56 | Thunder_Child | no, but osmeone is recording it |
| 08:16.59 | Thunder_Child | someone* |
| 08:17.02 | Esamynn | haha |
| 08:17.08 | Esamynn | snoop :P |
| 08:17.18 | Thunder_Child | common sense |
| 08:17.30 | Thunder_Child | no one has a wedding anymore w/o taping it |
| 08:17.49 | Kirkburn | Not even a mobile phone? Cos that's a computer :P |
| 08:18.11 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure his fridge has a computer in it too |
| 08:18.11 | Esamynn | fine, you're still being a snoop :P |
| 08:18.12 | Shadowed | and the TV |
| 08:18.15 | Shadowed | and the car |
| 08:18.17 | Shadowed | and the plane |
| 08:18.19 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 08:18.24 | Shadowed | and alot more things |
| 08:18.29 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Shadowed |
| 08:18.30 | purl | ACTION slaps Shadowed around with a piece of edam |
| 08:18.32 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Thunder_Child |
| 08:18.33 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child around with a piece of rocquefort |
| 08:18.37 | Shadowed | ~slap Esamynn |
| 08:18.38 | purl | ACTION slaps Esamynn, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 08:18.47 | Shadowed | DAMN YOU PURL! |
| 08:18.48 | Kirkburn | Lol, here's an idiot: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/47159896.htm |
| 08:18.54 | Esamynn | ~whaleparry Shadowed |
| 08:18.55 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Shadowed's attacks. |
| 08:18.58 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 08:18.59 | purl | i heard emulate thunder_child is (<reply>"Let me guess... Your parients are cousins"|<reply>"Save your breath ...you'll need it to blow up your date"|<reply>"People likeyou are the reason people like me need medication"|<reply>"my parients said i could be come ANYTHING, so i became an asshole"|<reply>"to save time, let's just assume i know everything"|<reply>"i'm ... |
| 08:19.09 | Thunder_Child | meh, need to fix that |
| 08:19.38 | Kirkburn | The bracket messes it up? |
| 08:19.38 | Shadowed | ~emulate shadowed |
| 08:19.42 | Shadowed | aw |
| 08:19.47 | Kirkburn | ~emulate Kirkburn |
| 08:19.48 | purl | That sounded more normal in my head ... |
| 08:19.50 | Thunder_Child | i had it at one point |
| 08:19.56 | Shadowed | ~emulate Iriel |
| 08:19.57 | purl | ACTION is beyond emulation. |
| 08:20.07 | Nom_ | ~emulate perl |
| 08:20.08 | purl | purl emulate perl is <reply> purl emulate purl is <reply> hi. |
| 08:20.17 | Nom_ | ~emulate purl |
| 08:20.18 | purl | ACTION tries to look like itself. |
| 08:20.33 | Shadowed | ~literal purl |
| 08:20.34 | purl | "purl" is "one COOL bot" |
| 08:20.41 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: what is the I'm... suppose to end in? |
| 08:20.47 | Shadowed | ~literal ckknight |
| 08:20.48 | purl | "ckknight" is "awesome. Ace dev and author of FuBar" |
| 08:21.04 | Kirkburn | Modest, too |
| 08:21.57 | Thunder_Child | uhh...let me see if i can find it |
| 08:22.48 | Thunder_Child | some where in there |
| 08:22.48 | Esamynn | although, I'll bet it's just too long at this point |
| 08:23.12 | Thunder_Child | i got d/c at least 10 times trying to fit it all in |
| 08:23.56 | Esamynn | well, I've fixed it for now |
| 08:24.16 | Esamynn | there is a way to beat the limit though, if you can find the end of what it's supposed to me |
| 08:24.42 | Thunder_Child | oh?, how so? |
| 08:24.49 | Esamynn | 8) |
| 08:25.02 | Esamynn | give me text, and I'll show you ;) |
| 08:25.08 | Thunder_Child | i just did |
| 08:25.20 | Thunder_Child | more? |
| 08:25.39 | Esamynn | no, I mean fiigure out what got cut off there after the I'm... |
| 08:25.50 | Esamynn | and I'll add it in using the trick |
| 08:25.59 | Thunder_Child | possably |"I'm sorry. my fault. i forgot you were an idiot" |
| 08:26.10 | Esamynn | k |
| 08:26.18 | Thunder_Child | wait |
| 08:26.21 | Thunder_Child | it's |"i'm retired, but i work part-time as a PAIN IN THE ASS" |
| 08:26.28 | Esamynn | lol |
| 08:30.01 | Thunder_Child | besides i hat it setup wrong, it should be <reply>("blah blah"|"bla"..etc.) |
| 08:30.48 | Esamynn | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 08:30.49 | purl | I'm retired, but i work part-time as a PAIN IN THE ASS |
| 08:31.16 | Esamynn | you try :) |
| 08:31.28 | Thunder_Child | ~literal emulate THunder_child |
| 08:31.29 | purl | "emulate thunder_child" is "<reply>(see emulate1 Thunder_Child|see emulate2 Thunder_Child)" |
| 08:31.58 | Thunder_Child | meh? |
| 08:32.05 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Thunder_Child |
| 08:32.06 | purl | Save your breath ...you'll need it to blow up your date |
| 08:32.06 | Esamynn | ~emulate2 Thunder_Child |
| 08:32.08 | purl | I'm retired, but i work part-time as a PAIN IN THE ASS |
| 08:32.12 | Esamynn | ~literal emulate2 Thunder_Child |
| 08:32.13 | purl | "emulate2 thunder_child" is "(<reply>I'm retired, but i work part-time as a PAIN IN THE ASS|<reply>my parients said i could be come ANYTHING, so i became an asshole|<reply>to save time, let's just assume i know everything)" |
| 08:32.20 | Thunder_Child | oh, i see |
| 08:32.29 | Esamynn | 8) |
| 08:32.43 | Thunder_Child | and it's still random? |
| 08:32.53 | Esamynn | yep |
| 08:33.02 | Thunder_Child | cool |
| 08:33.31 | Esamynn | it randomly chooses a sub-command which themselves have random portions |
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| 08:36.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~Literal Mr_Rabies2 |
| 08:36.23 | purl | "mr_rabies2" is "<reply>BATS! Bats. BaTs?" |
| 08:36.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
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| 08:39.28 | sylvanaar | what is the prefered tool for capturing error messages bugsack? or one of the others similarly named |
| 08:39.44 | Jaxine | is there anything better than /cast [target=targettarget] Righteous Defense ? |
| 08:40.16 | Jaxine | what if the target is the one i actually want to use it on.. do i have to cast it differently or can i make a macro that figures it out? |
| 08:40.58 | Jaxine | hmm, maybe help/harm will do ti |
| 08:44.14 | Jaxine | /cast [harm,target=targettarget] Righteous Defense [help,target=target] Righteous Defense |
| 08:45.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | its a fake post |
| 08:45.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | aiee |
| 08:45.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | was scrolled up |
| 08:51.05 | Neuro_Medivh | Jaxine, what do you want it to do? |
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| 08:55.23 | Jaxine | i want it to cast righteous defense on my target's target if my target is hostile |
| 08:55.27 | Jaxine | otherwise case it on my target |
| 08:57.02 | Jaxine | and if i have no target, i don't want it to make it castable with my mouse |
| 08:57.10 | Neuro_Medivh | your macro is right then |
| 08:57.16 | Jaxine | it's not working |
| 08:57.35 | Neuro_Medivh | ./cast [harm,target=targettarget] Righteous Defense; [help] Righteous Defense |
| 08:57.38 | Neuro_Medivh | use that |
| 08:57.44 | Jaxine | ok |
| 08:57.46 | Neuro_Medivh | you need to put a ; between spells |
| 08:58.21 | Neuro_Medivh | ack, wait |
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| 08:58.44 | Neuro_Medivh | ./cast [help] Righteous Defense; [help,target=targettarget] Righteous Defense |
| 08:58.51 | Neuro_Medivh | that's the proper one |
| 08:59.13 | Jaxine | will it make my cursor glow if i have no target? |
| 08:59.19 | Neuro_Medivh | no |
| 08:59.29 | Jaxine | waiting for my pvp timer to run out |
| 08:59.31 | Jaxine | then i'll try it |
| 08:59.43 | Neuro_Medivh | ./cast [help] Righteous Defense; [help,target=targettarget] Righteous Defense; [target=none] Righteous Defense |
| 08:59.56 | Jaxine | yeah i don't want it to glow |
| 09:00.01 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh |
| 09:00.08 | Neuro_Medivh | then leave off that last part =) |
| 09:00.50 | Jaxine | it makes my cursor glow |
| 09:01.12 | Neuro_Medivh | which version are you using? |
| 09:01.12 | Jaxine | doens't work on an hostile |
| 09:01.16 | Jaxine | 2.0.1 |
| 09:01.18 | Jaxine | ptr |
| 09:01.29 | Jaxine | works if i target my friend |
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| 09:02.07 | Neuro_Medivh | the hostile might not have a target you know |
| 09:02.24 | Neuro_Medivh | ./cast [help] Righteous Defense; [help,target=targettarget] Righteous Defense <--- use this one |
| 09:03.02 | Jaxine | nope |
| 09:03.18 | Neuro_Medivh | describe what it is doing |
| 09:03.44 | Jaxine | makes the cursor glow if i have an hostile targetted or no target |
| 09:03.48 | Jaxine | works if i have my friend targetted |
| 09:04.16 | Neuro_Medivh | you took the [target=none] part out right? |
| 09:04.36 | Jaxine | yes |
| 09:05.00 | Neuro_Medivh | ./cast [help] Righteous Defense; [target=targettarget,help,exists] Righteous Defense |
| 09:05.02 | Neuro_Medivh | try that one |
| 09:05.07 | Jaxine | if i do /cast [target=targettarget] Righteous Defense on the hostile, it works |
| 09:06.29 | Jaxine | nope |
| 09:06.48 | Neuro_Medivh | exists might not be in yet |
| 09:06.51 | Jaxine | do you know what that spell does? |
| 09:06.55 | Neuro_Medivh | Nope |
| 09:06.59 | Neuro_Medivh | it's a buff I assume |
| 09:07.00 | Jaxine | it's the new paladin taunt |
| 09:07.08 | Jaxine | it only works on friendly members |
| 09:07.16 | Neuro_Medivh | right |
| 09:07.29 | Jaxine | and it will make up to 3 mobs that are attacking the target of the spell attack you instead |
| 09:07.44 | Jaxine | so for obvious reasons it's useful to targettarget |
| 09:07.53 | Neuro_Medivh | ./cast [target=targettarget,help] should evaluate to true if your target's target is helpable |
| 09:07.59 | Jaxine | but if i have my friend targetted, i want it to cast on my target |
| 09:08.20 | Neuro_Medivh | right, that's /cast [help] Righteous Defense |
| 09:08.48 | Neuro_Medivh | so it should be /cast [help] Righteous Defense; [target=targettarget,help] Righteous Defense |
| 09:09.08 | Neuro_Medivh | if neither your target nor your target's target are friendly, it shouldn't do anything |
| 09:09.46 | Neuro_Medivh | unfortunately, I cannot help you test it, as I can't log into ptr |
| 09:13.30 | Jaxine | hm /cast [target=none]; |
| 09:13.33 | Jaxine | hm /cast [target=none]; .... |
| 09:13.37 | Jaxine | should it short circuit there? |
| 09:13.40 | Jaxine | if i have no target |
| 09:14.44 | Neuro_Medivh | target=none shouldn't even be in the macro anymore |
| 09:15.22 | Neuro_Medivh | don't think that's in beta yet anyway |
| 09:15.37 | Neuro_Medivh | so hard to remember what made it in and what is waiting for next patch |
| 09:16.29 | Corrodias | so, what, Glider is some wow bot? |
| 09:16.48 | Corrodias | this being relevant to a discussion that may have taken place a long time ago. looks like my scrolling was paused maybe. |
| 09:16.59 | Jaxine | Corrodias, yes it's a bot |
| 09:17.09 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah |
| 09:17.14 | Jaxine | Neuro_Medivh, behavior of righteous defense seems to be different |
| 09:17.52 | Jaxine | /cast [help] Cleanse does nothing if i have no target |
| 09:17.52 | Neuro_Medivh | very popular bot program that they figured was not detectable |
| 09:17.54 | Jaxine | /cast [help] Righteous Defense makes the cursor glow, expecting me to click a target |
| 09:17.59 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, odd |
| 09:18.10 | Neuro_Medivh | I'd ask slouken about that later then |
| 09:18.22 | Neuro_Medivh | cause that's unexpected |
| 09:18.37 | Neuro_Medivh | do you have self-cast enabled or something? |
| 09:18.40 | End | wtf |
| 09:18.47 | Jaxine | it's unchecked |
| 09:18.50 | End | a level 62 mob just hit me for 1.2k fire damage |
| 09:18.54 | End | and then it did it twice more |
| 09:19.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Must be the spell then |
| 09:19.23 | Neuro_Medivh | cause that's proper syntax |
| 09:20.22 | Neuro_Medivh | this thread by the bot people who got caught is amazing |
| 09:26.03 | Jaxine | i'm a dummy |
| 09:26.25 | Jaxine | forgot to replace the Righteous Defense icon on my bar with the macro icon |
| 09:27.37 | Neuro_Medivh | HAHAHAH |
| 09:27.50 | Neuro_Medivh | sorry jaxine |
| 09:27.55 | Jaxine | it works |
| 09:28.01 | Jaxine | i also added [dummy] Righteous Defense |
| 09:28.06 | Neuro_Medivh | cool |
| 09:28.14 | Neuro_Medivh | next week it changes, but yeah, that works |
| 09:28.21 | Jaxine | what does it change to? |
| 09:31.11 | s|loup | [10:14:49] <Neuro_Medivh> target=none shouldn't even be in the macro anymore <-- is target=none removed or just disabled? |
| 09:32.31 | Neuro_Medivh | Jaxine didn't want that in the macro |
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| 09:32.41 | Neuro_Medivh | and I'm not sure it's in the code yet |
| 09:33.01 | Neuro_Medivh | a lot of the features announced in the last week haven't made it to the beta yet |
| 09:33.08 | Jaxine | target=none appears to work |
| 09:33.15 | Neuro_Medivh | ok |
| 09:33.26 | s|loup | oh ok thaught its meant for all makros |
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| 10:10.52 | SP|Sorren | does anyone elses combat log keep dissapearing on em? |
| 10:11.34 | nymbia | in beta/ptr? |
| 10:11.51 | Thunder_Child | no, but i just found a cricket on my wall |
| 10:12.01 | Thunder_Child | and no, i am not making a wish |
| 10:12.05 | nymbia | lola |
| 10:12.14 | nymbia | s/lola/lol/ |
| 10:13.12 | SP|Sorren | beta |
| 10:13.24 | SP|Sorren | mine keeps going poof on me |
| 10:13.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | grararrgghgh still no copy to the ptr |
| 10:14.10 | nymbia | SP|Sorren: yeah, same here. i just made a macro to re-show all 4 of my custom chatframes. |
| 10:15.36 | Corrodias | i need the names of some entertaining 2-player ps2 games |
| 10:16.01 | SP|Sorren | can you share your macro? is it just like ChatFrame2:Show? |
| 10:16.46 | nymbia | yeah |
| 10:17.39 | nymbia | Corrodias: katamari ;) |
| 10:20.45 | SP|Sorren | that works great ;o |
| 10:21.02 | Corrodias | katamari damashii/damacy appears to have some kind of competetive mode... is it entertaining? what of we love katamari? |
| 10:21.08 | nymbia | SP|Sorren: til it happens again ;) |
| 10:21.33 | SP|Sorren | maybe ill hook the hide function and break it |
| 10:22.15 | nymbia | Corrodias: i think the two-player on the first one (katamary damacy) is minimal, we love katamari is the way to go ;) |
| 10:24.05 | Corrodias | understood. |
| 10:24.17 | nymbia | as far as runaway chatframes go, it seems to usually only happen during pvp for me. |
| 10:24.52 | SP|Sorren | i notice they're gone the most whenever i go WTH happened after i get ganked |
| 10:25.03 | nymbia | exactly ;) |
| 10:25.14 | SP|Sorren | that could be because thats when i tend to look for it though |
| 10:25.56 | nymbia | i watch mine a lot, so i notice almost immediately when they disappear. |
| 10:26.32 | Corrodias | this reminds me. i need to install some dvd burning software on this computer. |
| 10:26.42 | Corrodias | alcohol would serve wonderfully, but i have to reboot for that :( |
| 10:41.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | "There was a brief period of time on the beta where certain consumables were flagged as usable in some forms, and that has since been reversed." |
| 10:41.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | OH GODDAMNIT |
| 10:42.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there goes my interest in the expansion |
| 10:42.31 | Corrodias | no more reusable fire potions, eh |
| 10:42.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | or thistle tea or rage pots |
| 10:43.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | blizzard loves to crush dreams |
| 10:43.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't even cancel my damn account |
| 10:47.23 | Thunder_Child | whine whine whine |
| 10:48.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh i'm done whining, canceling when i get the chance unless they re-reverse |
| 10:49.33 | Corrodias | it started out sounding like you were being completely non-serious, but you're dragging it a bit long |
| 10:50.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | what? them slowly crushing what hope most of the druids had towards the expansion |
| 10:50.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually being able to do things other classes have been able to forever |
| 10:50.37 | Corrodias | ...infinite uses of thistle tea really doesn't sound like something you could expect to be kept forever |
| 10:50.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | whaa? |
| 10:51.18 | Corrodias | don't whaa me. you're the one who said it. |
| 10:51.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | consumables arent usable in forms anymore |
| 10:51.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i didn't see reusable in your thing |
| 10:51.38 | Corrodias | oh, you're talking about -that- way |
| 10:52.15 | Corrodias | druids should be used to being gimped by now |
| 10:52.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | most of us are tired of being gimped |
| 10:52.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially when they dangle a chance of nongimpedness infront of us |
| 10:52.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | then snatch it out of our hands |
| 10:52.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | paws |
| 10:52.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | whatever |
| 10:53.30 | Corrodias | my god... i'm browing a list of recently-released ps2 games and it's just sickening |
| 10:53.48 | Thunder_Child | of cource that means you are defining your entire wow experiance by one class |
| 10:54.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | no, i've got countless alts |
| 10:54.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | only one other 60 |
| 10:54.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | but there's too many minuses to playing a druid and not enough plusses |
| 10:54.23 | Corrodias | half of them are sports games (including racing) or lame movie licenses |
| 10:55.09 | Thunder_Child | hey, it's your money and your free time, you need to do what feels comfortable |
| 10:55.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's gonna have a huge backlash unless drysc was purely misinformed |
| 10:56.10 | Corrodias | i see mutiple "one piece" games |
| 10:56.21 | Corrodias | i hope nobody wasted money on that |
| 10:56.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | because people mentioned that nogginfoggers were the only way to fix the cat form range bug that's been in since release |
| 10:56.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | and he said instead of them fixing that they nerfed our ability to use consumables in forms |
| 10:59.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | for the last few weeks the druid forums seemed hopeful for a change |
| 10:59.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now BAM back to lots of unhappiness |
| 11:00.02 | Corrodias | i haven't felt powerful as a druid since... ever. |
| 11:00.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | well 2.0.2 was at least a step in the right direction |
| 11:00.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | procs in forms, more armor and stam in bear, better mangle, consumables in forms |
| 11:01.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | that put us on a decent level, still not on par with other classes, but close enough for us to be happy |
| 11:01.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | then they yanked the steak out of the starving ethiopian kid's hands |
| 11:02.02 | Corrodias | procs in forms? you're dreaming of diamonds, my son |
| 11:02.03 | Corrodias | they'd never allow that |
| 11:02.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | they did |
| 11:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | on 2.0.2 |
| 11:02.14 | Corrodias | it would make druids a threat |
| 11:02.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | have you not been paying attention? |
| 11:02.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | they actually like |
| 11:02.19 | Corrodias | they could rise up |
| 11:02.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | made us like a real class almost |
| 11:02.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | now they're taking that away again |
| 11:02.47 | Corrodias | actually, no, i haven't been paying attention |
| 11:02.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless drysc is just misinformed |
| 11:03.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | things were heading in a good direction and now it's 180'd |
| 11:03.52 | Corrodias | i'd laugh at the druids for thinking it was not an indian gift if i weren't a druid myself |
| 11:04.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean shit, people from other classes that don't play druids that have been known to call druids out on whining are even on blizzard about this |
| 11:04.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | because initially everyone was like "is this a bug? what's up?" |
| 11:04.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | no response |
| 11:04.35 | Corrodias | i find that "no response" is blizzard's favorite way of dealing with most things |
| 11:04.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | instead of saying "oh yeah, we'll fix cat form's range bug so you don't have to use noggenfogger to make it work" |
| 11:05.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | they say "oh yeah we're removing your ability to use nogginfogger to get cat form to work and not fixing it, and oh yeah that awesome change we just made to make you guys be able to use consumables? nope, not anymore" |
| 11:05.52 | Corrodias | those silly druids, wanting to be useful |
| 11:06.10 | s|loup | is noggenfogger now not usable in all forms of a druid? |
| 11:06.14 | Corrodias | i'd have made a mage as my main that year ago, had i known more about the classes |
| 11:06.25 | s|loup | so also as caster? |
| 11:06.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | nogginfogger gets canceled when you shapeshift now |
| 11:06.36 | s|loup | ah ok |
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| 11:06.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | people used it so that your nose wasn't sticking through people to be in melee range |
| 11:06.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | so you could gauge it accurately |
| 11:07.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm going to bed pissed off and if this isn't fixed i'm canceled and out for good |
| 11:08.14 | Corrodias | personally, i don't understand the range thing |
| 11:08.30 | Corrodias | unless people can hit you on the nose while you have to hit them with your shoulders |
| 11:08.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's another bug too |
| 11:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but they can see you from stealth from your nose |
| 11:08.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | but you attack from your shoulders |
| 11:09.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | the other bug is that you can autoattack but not use specials unless you get even closer |
| 11:09.21 | Corrodias | i decided to abandon my druid as quickly as possible, and am currently working up a mage, when i'm not playing katamari damacy |
| 11:10.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh if they decide that druids aren't worth being good then i'll decide they're not worth 15 bucks a month |
| 11:10.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | as will a looooot more druids |
| 11:11.47 | Corrodias | perhaps we should start asking blizzard to let us trade in our druids for new characters of the same level of other classes |
| 11:12.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wouldn't even do that if they reverse this |
| 11:12.21 | Corrodias | they tricked us with their fancy class descriptions into choosing it |
| 11:12.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | that proves they're not even the same company they used to be and have no clue what they're doing now |
| 11:13.12 | Corrodias | used to be was a loooong time ago, i take it. since before diablo 2, i can tell you that. |
| 11:13.34 | Corrodias | i knew what i was in for with WoW and i was not proven wrong |
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| 11:16.37 | Corrodias | every single patch of d2 was designed with keeping people from doing what they wanted to do in mind |
| 11:17.39 | Corrodias | people are soloing too much. let's try to make them group up. people are relying on mana leech and health leech items too much. let's make skeletons unleechable. people are playing the cow level too much. let's make it less useful. people are running mephisto. let's nerf it. |
| 11:18.09 | Corrodias | the most recent, most riduculous example was this. "people are botting too much. let's make all the good items even rarer." |
| 11:18.52 | Corrodias | believe me, if WoW didn't entertain, i would hardly pay blizzard for being likable |
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| 11:20.43 | Corrodias | get this. for one patch in d2, the monsters suddenly all became much, much tougher. after 80% of the players showed just how pissed they were, blizzard reverted the change and LIED to us, saying it had been an accident. |
| 11:21.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stopped d2 before 1.09 came out |
| 11:21.34 | Corrodias | in version 1.03, when i started, d2 was decent. now i get sick just looking at the nonsense it has become. |
| 11:21.57 | Corrodias | at least druids aren't getting worse, although you can see how little they think of us |
| 11:22.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they actually paid attention to the forums they'd see how happy everyone (even non druids) were about that change |
| 11:23.16 | Corrodias | haha... they don't read forums :3 |
| 11:27.11 | Corrodias | they might hear feedback |
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| 11:29.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | well my druid is on the ptr |
| 11:30.23 | Corrodias | i'd be afraid to report a terrain bug to them for fear of being banned for using it and having it left unfixed for eternity anyway :P |
| 11:33.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i have 1% more crit or so |
| 11:34.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do i macro a cast cower or pounce |
| 11:34.34 | Corrodias | i think it should be possible based on stealth status |
| 11:34.39 | Corrodias | hang on |
| 11:35.05 | Corrodias | Conditional Macro Commands |
| 11:35.06 | Corrodias | The /cast, /use, /cancelaura, /changeactionbar, /equip, /target, /focus and /assist commands can be given multiple actions and conditions on which to use those actions. The first matching action will be used. The syntax is as follows: |
| 11:35.18 | Corrodias | /command [option] action; [option1,option2] action |
| 11:35.31 | Corrodias | one option is "stealth - Choose depending on whether you are stealthed" |
| 11:36.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just DROPPED a tree druid |
| 11:36.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | he didn't heal i didn't take any damage |
| 11:36.40 | Corrodias | methinks he was doing something wrong |
| 11:36.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | pounce mangle faerie fire mangle rip |
| 11:36.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably not used to tree form |
| 11:38.10 | Corrodias | dear lord, somebody made a "shrek 2" game |
| 11:38.32 | Corrodias | and a "Trivial Pursuit Unhinged" |
| 11:38.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 11:38.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | are there any blood elf npcs in any horde towns |
| 11:38.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | on azeroth? |
| 11:39.02 | Corrodias | i've no idea. i do not play the expansion. |
| 11:40.03 | grimman|afkish | http://www.actiontrip.com/comics/at_comic155.phtml :P |
| 11:40.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm on the ptr i just wanted to wreck some town npcs |
| 11:40.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | specifically some emoelves |
| 11:42.38 | |Shadow| | yay another fish |
| 11:42.52 | grimman|afkish | /wave |Shadow| |
| 11:43.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | what the hell did gabe like go off to make his own comic or something |
| 11:43.07 | grimman|afkish | Gears of War is getting released tomorrow. :) |
| 11:43.12 | grimman|afkish | Friend of mine got it today. |
| 11:43.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | the art is almost exactly like the middle aged penny arcade stuff |
| 11:43.21 | grimman|afkish | My afk-tag is gonna have its work cut out for it. |
| 11:44.10 | |Shadow| | lol i got scared then |
| 11:44.13 | Corrodias | so, what, gears of war is another xbox fps? |
| 11:44.16 | |Shadow| | tried to login and invalid pass :O |
| 11:44.20 | |Shadow| | but it was only a typo :) |
| 11:50.02 | Laric | is there any good way of hiding my own SendChatMessage in a way that wont taint a wow 2.x? |
| 11:50.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | gears of war is a third person shooter, but i hear it's really good |
| 11:50.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's short though, supposedly |
| 11:50.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's an FPS, it's not like it's final fantasy 7 or anything |
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| 11:52.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 11:53.48 | Corrodias | i remember being quite entertained by FEAR, although it had some very noticable problems |
| 11:54.32 | Corrodias | architecture that's so linear and impractical as to be ridiculous at times and a plot without apparent motivation, to my eye |
| 11:56.10 | Corrodias | there is absolutely no way they could have put the furniture in some rooms of those buildings |
| 11:57.30 | Corrodias | well, it is possible, but why go through the trouble of ferrying boxes and computers across a large pool of water that's inexplicably found in a basement |
| 11:59.05 | Corrodias | i won't discuss the plot in detail, to avoid spoilers, but i can say that i personally didn't see why the main character made no attempt to communicate with the adversaries, despite numerous opportunities to do so |
| 12:01.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | well mangle's pretty hot now |
| 12:01.31 | Corrodias | feeling a little better? |
| 12:01.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh still not happy if drysc is not just misinformed |
| 12:02.49 | Corrodias | well, it's about time i get to bed |
| 12:02.58 | Corrodias | i'm actually pretty late for that, but i have to sleep a little! |
| 12:03.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh hey look |
| 12:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | no bgs or arena on the ptrs |
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| 12:04.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think blizzard is borrowing family guy's manatees |
| 12:05.57 | |Shadow| | i tell you what someone should make |
| 12:06.50 | |Shadow| | someone should make a kinda password for wow where you don't have to logout or some shit, just so you can keep your lil bro off your wow account while you take a leak or something |
| 12:07.11 | |Shadow| | you could probably do it by createing a dialog that was larger than the screen, and centering it |
| 12:07.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | alt tab and windows key + L :P |
| 12:07.34 | |Shadow| | and you could just make a small button to click to open the dialog box, and it wouldn't close again till you put the pass in |
| 12:07.40 | |Shadow| | naaaah tabbing sucks :( |
| 12:07.45 | Corrodias | 'tis true, your OS has these protections built-in |
| 12:07.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | good idea though |
| 12:08.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | srsly, like "lock" in mirc |
| 12:08.50 | |Shadow| | yea |
| 12:09.01 | |Shadow| | i don't use it though, i just have a screen locker on my systray |
| 12:09.18 | |Shadow| | a little X, i click it and it puts up a nice matrix screen saver and won't let anyone in till they enter the pass :) |
| 12:09.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just don't have a little bro |
| 12:09.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | even easier :P |
| 12:10.19 | |Shadow| | its even worse for me i have a big bro ::( |
| 12:10.37 | |Shadow| | hes a embarrasment lol |
| 12:10.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do too but hes like 15 years older than me or sommat |
| 12:10.51 | |Shadow| | same with mine, but mines just stupid |
| 12:10.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and lives uber far away |
| 12:11.12 | |Shadow| | i mean he plays wow, he went searching for wow bots and wow hacks and wow gold without a firewall or anti virus |
| 12:11.19 | |Shadow| | and zomg...he got hacked :| |
| 12:11.26 | |Shadow| | (big suprise there) |
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| 12:11.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | probably used a cracked version of glider |
| 12:12.07 | |Shadow| | dunno what he did, but i lol'd anyways |
| 12:12.13 | |Shadow| | then he says can i use your pc |
| 12:12.15 | |Shadow| | :| |
| 12:12.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | slap him in the throat when he asks |
| 12:12.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | he'll learn |
| 12:12.51 | |Shadow| | lol |
| 12:12.57 | |Shadow| | hes like 7 ft tall |
| 12:13.01 | |Shadow| | don't wanna mess with him ;D |
| 12:13.15 | |Shadow| | and hes a cool brother even though hes stupid sometimes |
| 12:13.27 | |Shadow| | ;D |
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| 12:14.06 | |Shadow| | most people can't say they had there brother give them a laptop though |
| 12:14.18 | |Shadow| | (even though its a dell one) <-- stupid part of my brother |
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| 12:37.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | dell makes pretty good laptops despite installing a buncha useless crap |
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| 12:45.57 | AnduinLothar | speaking of useles my mac came with a program for making comics... it's pretty hawt... but how many people would actually find it useful? |
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| 13:22.42 | JoshBorke | morning |
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| 13:43.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | is there a /usesequence kinda thing? |
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| 13:57.45 | Mery | "* You can specify items as well as spells " |
| 13:58.16 | Mery | (for /castsequence taken form the concise list) |
| 13:58.21 | Mery | from* |
| 13:59.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess castsequence isn't in 2.0.1? |
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| 14:00.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | or am i just doing it wrong? |
| 14:00.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | /castsequence Stormpike Battle Charger, Reins of the Swift Mistsaber |
| 14:03.22 | s|loup | it isnt in yet |
| 14:03.28 | s|loup | as slouken said |
| 14:03.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahh dammit |
| 14:04.28 | s|loup | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/47158303.htm |
| 14:04.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i have to wait til jan, assuming drysc is misinformed on the consumables in forms to choose a different mount every time :/ |
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| 14:21.52 | zoktar | anyone know a way to bind the chat tabs in wow? |
| 14:22.01 | zoktar | say like they are in mirc alt1 alt2 alt3 |
| 14:25.37 | Mery | hmm (I know im always 20 min late): isn't /userandom (not sure if that is in, was previously announced as /randomuse) what you want to do? |
| 14:28.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess i dunno i didnt ee that anywhere |
| 14:29.24 | Mery | :) well I just wanted to point out that there is (or will be) a random thing too |
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| 14:29.49 | Garoun|Loupana | use /castrandom Rabies |
| 14:29.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | /randomuse is in |
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| 14:30.00 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah that one |
| 14:30.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | how do i bind spells or that macro to a key? |
| 14:31.07 | Garoun|Loupana | if that is the command name its: |
| 14:31.25 | Garoun|Loupana | ./randomuse Stormpike Battle Charger, Reins of the Swift Mistsaber |
| 14:31.32 | Garoun|Loupana | without the . in a macro |
| 14:31.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i got that workin |
| 14:31.39 | Garoun|Loupana | gotta get to work now though |
| 14:31.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | now i just wanna bind it to a key :P |
| 14:31.55 | Garoun|Loupana | things like /cast [modifier] aren't in yet |
| 14:32.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i dont have to see a button |
| 14:32.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah dammit |
| 14:32.22 | Garoun|Loupana | check the Macro faq on the ui forum, it may be there |
| 14:32.31 | Mery | * NEW SetBindingMacro("KEY", "macroname"|macroid) |
| 14:32.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | gonna have to wait til jan for that too? |
| 14:32.50 | Mery | I dunno =) |
| 14:33.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | assuming drysc didnt just make me quit today |
| 14:33.06 | Garoun|Loupana | no, the modifier and /castsequence will probably go in next push |
| 14:33.24 | Garoun|Loupana | now, off to work for real :P |
| 14:33.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | people were acting like 2.0.1 is the one hitting in december and we dont get 2.0.2 until jan |
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| 14:34.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | so 2.0.2 nonbeta will have no testing, i'm so looking forward to that! [/sarcasm] |
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| 14:35.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 14:35.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | non bc |
| 14:41.18 | Mery | well it doesn't need testing more than beta testing? |
| 14:45.13 | thr | hmm |
| 14:45.16 | thr | i got into the BC beta |
| 14:45.21 | thr | trying to copy my char but it just gives me an error ;( |
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| 14:48.21 | Mery | is weather in westfall new or did I just never notice? |
| 14:50.39 | thr | it's "kinda" new |
| 14:50.43 | thr | like 1.10 or something |
| 14:52.25 | Mery | westfall wasn't on that list =) |
| 14:52.38 | thr | well they added more zones |
| 14:52.40 | thr | in upcomming patches |
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| 15:21.38 | DrDre | wtf |
| 15:21.49 | DrDre | druids using potions in forms was a bug and removed O.o |
| 15:21.57 | nevcairiel | oh noes :( |
| 15:22.34 | DrDre | "There was a brief period of time on the beta where certain consumables were flagged as usable in some forms, and that has since been reversed." -Drysc |
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| 15:27.32 | thr | hmm |
| 15:27.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah that pisses me off, unless he's wrong i think i'm done with wow once my subscription wears out |
| 15:27.43 | thr | any1 else having problems with copying thier BC-Beta (NOT PTR) characters |
| 15:32.46 | DrDre | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46970315&postId=469269375&sid=1#0 |
| 15:32.52 | DrDre | i made a topic asking Mr_Rabies: |
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| 15:56.51 | nevcairiel | hrm, thr i am having problems now as well. |
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| 16:22.49 | foxlit | evening |
| 16:31.14 | TS|Skrom | hehe I just kited down Weldon Barov ^.^ |
| 16:31.22 | TS|Skrom | I have my Barov's Peasant Caller finally |
| 16:31.49 | Osagasu | Grats |
| 16:31.51 | Osagasu | ? |
| 16:31.57 | TS|Skrom | it was fun lol |
| 16:32.28 | Osagasu | *sigh* why won't druids learn that Blizzard doesn't want them to be the best tanks? |
| 16:34.36 | foxlit | Because in most situations they're adequate |
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| 16:35.34 | Osagasu | "We want weapon procs!" You don't use weapons. "We want to be able to use potions" With what HANDS? "We want parry!" And have your hand chopped off? please. |
| 16:35.45 | Osagasu | Hello Kaelten. |
| 16:35.59 | End | hey, insects get parry! |
| 16:36.12 | Osagasu | They don't have hands to get chopped off. :P |
| 16:36.25 | End | yes, but...how do they even parry at all |
| 16:36.29 | End | ? |
| 16:36.38 | foxlit | You'd think if claws do more damage than swords, they'd be able to resist a sword hit? |
| 16:36.50 | foxlit | Of course, you can go the other way and make druid attacks inparriable |
| 16:36.54 | Elkano | Osagasu, but how is is possible that we can skin shapeshifted? ^^ |
| 16:36.56 | Osagasu | It's easy. Blizzard goes. "And god said, LET THERE BE MOB PARRY!" |
| 16:37.27 | Osagasu | Personally I don't think you should be able to. |
| 16:37.52 | Osagasu | You should have to shift out every time you want to loot, skin, mine, pick, talk, mount, etc etc etc |
| 16:38.16 | End | ugh, that sounds like a pain in the ass |
| 16:38.22 | Osagasu | Yes it does. |
| 16:38.28 | Osagasu | But it's even worse as a mage. |
| 16:38.33 | End | why? |
| 16:39.01 | Osagasu | In areas where you can't AoE kite, you literally have to sit down and drink after every other mob. |
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| 16:39.20 | Osagasu | Hell, on my shaman I've killed 10 mobs in a row without even 10 seconds break |
| 16:40.52 | End | hmm |
| 16:41.26 | Osagasu | I got caught in the middle of a respawn cycle in sorrow hill at 51. :P |
| 16:41.36 | End | well, on live, against same level mobs, I need to shift out and heal after just about every single mob to heal |
| 16:41.41 | End | but then again, on live, I'm resto |
| 16:42.10 | Osagasu | I don't wanna go to class today. T_T |
| 16:42.11 | End | on beta, it varies -a ton- |
| 16:42.37 | Osagasu | Please, don't talk to me about beta. |
| 16:42.53 | Osagasu | I've already strangled two people in the last 12 hours |
| 16:43.24 | End | umm, sure |
| 16:44.52 | foxlit | longlasting poison effects are evil |
| 16:45.03 | Osagasu | I've been trying for a month to get into the damned thing |
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| 16:56.30 | foxlit | gr, +43% physical damage disease is a death sentence for a druid |
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| 17:12.24 | Industrial | zomg wiki down |
| 17:12.53 | zenzelezz | seems to load for me |
| 17:12.57 | zenzelezz | albeit slowly |
| 17:13.24 | Industrial | is it being hammered by people? :S im not getting a response at all |
| 17:13.36 | Industrial | there we go |
| 17:13.53 | Industrial | I have a header! :P |
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| 18:19.33 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:19.37 | DrDre | hi ckk |
| 18:19.45 | DrDre | im back myself >_> |
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| 19:03.31 | Shadowed | I take it SetAttribute won't do queueing if you try to change a unit in combat? |
| 19:04.34 | Neuro_Medivh | doubt it, pretty sure it just fails |
| 19:04.41 | Neuro_Medivh | you could build your own queue probably |
| 19:04.52 | Shadowed | yeah, not hard just wanted to make sure |
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| 19:08.01 | Shadowed | damn hellsfire down :( |
| 19:09.55 | cogwheel | really? that probably means patch! /glee |
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| 19:11.38 | Shadowed | yep, patch |
| 19:11.57 | Shadowed | The beta realms will be brought down at 11:00 AM PST for maintenance and a patch. The estimated downtime is 6 hours. |
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| 19:16.55 | Esamynn | yep, there is a beta patch today :) |
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| 19:18.56 | LtKettch | hey there |
| 19:19.51 | LtKettch | :) |
| 19:21.17 | LtKettch | i've ran into a problem with the wow api, and i was wondering if there was some way around.... |
| 19:21.34 | LtKettch | do anyone know about a way to get the list of people in a given channel ? |
| 19:21.35 | Esamynn | go on... |
| 19:21.51 | krka_ | there is none |
| 19:22.00 | krka_ | except asking everyone to say something |
| 19:22.12 | LtKettch | or jgoing out/in of the channel ;) |
| 19:22.13 | foxlit | ./chatlist does something like it |
| 19:22.14 | Esamynn | ./chatlist <channel #> |
| 19:22.18 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.24 | foxlit | Chat API is evil, though. |
| 19:22.24 | LtKettch | I mean in an addon, getting the list in a variable |
| 19:22.34 | foxlit | http://wowwiki.com/API |
| 19:22.35 | krka_ | ooh.. didn't know that |
| 19:22.41 | SB1-Work | Patch notes anywherE? |
| 19:22.45 | cogwheel | You'd have to send the request that /chatwho sends and wait for the server to respond |
| 19:22.50 | Kaso | send a chatwho and parse the list Ltkettch |
| 19:22.53 | Esamynn | LtKettch: only trhough the same command, but you'd want to hide the feedback from the user |
| 19:22.55 | SB1-Work | I can't find them.. |
| 19:23.15 | Esamynn | SB1-Work: you mean patch notes for today's beta patch? |
| 19:23.20 | LtKettch | that's an idea.... |
| 19:23.22 | cogwheel | SB1-Work: they haven't been very consistent with providing them |
| 19:23.32 | foxlit | ListChannelByName(channelName); |
| 19:23.38 | foxlit | "Lists members in the given channel to the chat window. " |
| 19:23.39 | SB1-Work | Ah. |
| 19:23.57 | LtKettch | yeah found that... I was wondering how I could get the result... |
| 19:24.13 | Esamynn | wait for the event that will be generated by the request |
| 19:24.22 | foxlit | wiki should link event :/ |
| 19:24.32 | LtKettch | ok wait a sec I'll take a look :) |
| 19:25.02 | LtKettch | ok got it ;) |
| 19:25.34 | LtKettch | gonna try that right now... |
| 19:25.34 | SB1-Work | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1255070&sid=1 <-- lol, I want a warlock now |
| 19:25.44 | LtKettch | hehe, already got one, yeaaah ;) |
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| 19:26.23 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:26.28 | foxlit | CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_LIST |
| 19:27.26 | LtKettch | thx foxlit, already found it, as I said |
| 19:27.31 | LtKettch | gonna try it right now |
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| 19:32.04 | LtKettch | ok works nicely, thx |
| 19:34.00 | Kaso | remeber to hide the output :> |
| 19:34.46 | LtKettch | yeah, will try that later :) |
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| 19:37.41 | Gryphen | might look at Cirk's Chatmanager |
| 19:38.31 | LtKettch | ok, I will ;) |
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| 19:52.38 | wereHamster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47009071&pageNo=3&sid=1 - what about Wine? do they test WoW with Wine, too? |
| 19:54.05 | haste | probably |
| 19:54.17 | haste | wine was unaffected in this scenario tho' |
| 19:54.26 | haste | and most of the Cedega players also |
| 19:56.29 | wereHamster | I'm using Wine myself, but I still don't know what I shoudl think of all this :-/ |
| 19:57.45 | Shadowed | I'm guessing most of the whining are people who got caught botting and are trying to blame Wine/Cedega/Linux/Whatever |
| 19:58.51 | haste | wereHamster: imo, you haven't nothing to be afraid off, as long as you don't bot |
| 19:59.24 | haste | wereHamster: If your accounts gets suspended because of wine/cedega you have a valid reason to complain |
| 20:00.19 | Elkano | as long as they don't say: prove that you didn't... |
| 20:01.30 | nevcairiel | probably a good way to try, bot under linux maybe the scan bot doesnt work |
| 20:01.40 | wereHamster | I don't trust blizzard, both that they test WoW under linux and that they would be willing to reactivate my account.. |
| 20:01.44 | Esamynn | ROFL: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47160588&sid=1 |
| 20:02.38 | Esamynn | wereHamster: why not? |
| 20:03.16 | LtKettch | since I am both warlock and gnome, I demand that this Tauren be killed ;) |
| 20:03.43 | Esamynn | haha |
| 20:03.56 | Esamynn | male or female gnome? |
| 20:04.00 | LtKettch | male |
| 20:04.05 | Esamynn | pervet |
| 20:04.12 | LtKettch | why is that ? oO |
| 20:04.12 | Esamynn | pervert* |
| 20:04.14 | Esamynn | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.19 | Esamynn | just personal experience |
| 20:04.24 | Esamynn | all male gnomes are perverts ;) |
| 20:04.28 | LtKettch | oh really ? |
| 20:04.36 | Esamynn | not serious pervert ;) |
| 20:04.40 | Esamynn | just................quirky |
| 20:04.59 | LtKettch | I always thought female elven are pervert teens ;) No gnomes ! |
| 20:05.06 | wereHamster | I've heard more than enough stories about them not caring about their customers.. granted, we don't get to hear the positive responses, but still, who does guarantee that they won't do the same with me? |
| 20:05.07 | Esamynn | haha |
| 20:05.30 | nevcairiel | I better dont say that my nelf druid is female .. whoops |
| 20:05.40 | LtKettch | :) |
| 20:05.47 | Esamynn | LtKettch: I'm actually talking about the things they discuss in chat, etc. ;) |
| 20:05.55 | Esamynn | as I said, just personal experience 8) |
| 20:06.13 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: They said that Warden will scan Linux I believe |
| 20:06.22 | LtKettch | wereHamster : I didn't follow your problem, but I am getting pretty tired about Blizzard being so secret and "we follow-our-own-rules"... |
| 20:06.41 | LtKettch | Esamynn : are you reading into my mind or.... ooops ;) |
| 20:06.44 | Shadowed | I like the person whos trying to sue Blizzard for a wowglider ban |
| 20:06.53 | Esamynn | LtKettch: haha |
| 20:06.55 | wereHamster | I just don't trust them to treat me like a 'customer' |
| 20:07.20 | LtKettch | They just treat like what you are to them : a credit card... |
| 20:07.20 | Esamynn | wereHamster: then why d you still play? |
| 20:07.20 | nevcairiel | its like all online games, they can ban you and cancel your account if they want, they just cant charge you anymore then :D |
| 20:07.33 | Shadowed | One happy customer tells 10 people, One unhappy customer tells 1000 people pretty much |
| 20:07.44 | Esamynn | exactly! |
| 20:08.11 | Shadowed | You will never hear from people enjoying the game because they can play it, takes to much time to post that it's a good game :p |
| 20:08.23 | wereHamster | Shadowed, I know, see my post above.. |
| 20:08.24 | LtKettch | unfortunately they are getting good are shutting unhappy customers up in the forums... |
| 20:08.37 | Shadowed | this is amusing though http://www.komjesnel.nl/lawsuitwow.pdf |
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| 20:09.35 | Esamynn | LtKettch: actually I've noticed they are very good about NOT censoring the unhappy people |
| 20:09.40 | Esamynn | just those that break the rules |
| 20:10.15 | Shadowed | the worst thing you could do is censor the unhappy people, since they complain even more on unmoderated areas and they start "banding together" |
| 20:10.20 | LtKettch | Yeah but when you are unhappy, and since they never answer, you're getting nervous, then locked... |
| 20:11.19 | wereHamster | Esamynn, I play because the game itself is fantastic, fun, I haven't played a better game before.. and luckily I diodn't have to contact their support team yet, but when I'll have to, I won't trust them |
| 20:11.48 | Esamynn | wereHamster: i think you are being overly paranoid, but /shrug |
| 20:12.04 | LtKettch | Well support means technical... When dealing with game design (ie. CMs) it's evene worse ! |
| 20:12.13 | LtKettch | even* |
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| 20:13.15 | Shadowed | wereHamster: They actually have pretty good support |
| 20:13.29 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 20:13.33 | Shadowed | I accidently froze my account trying to get some info changed, and they were pretty good about getting it unfrozen after I sent in the info |
| 20:13.33 | Esamynn | haha |
| 20:13.52 | Shadowed | if you mean technical? no idea |
| 20:14.12 | Shadowed | just don't compare them to slouken and you'll be fine |
| 20:16.31 | Esamynn | Yarrr. The Dread Pirate slouken be a fine sea dog! ;) |
| 20:16.54 | Shadowed | yeah, but slouken > them all :p |
| 20:20.17 | LtKettch | :) |
| 20:21.14 | Teomyr | the gm staff could also use some more experienced members |
| 20:21.25 | LtKettch | oh damn yeah !!! |
| 20:22.07 | Teomyr | once a gm told me that vanish could be "resisted", i knew who i was dealing with |
| 20:22.32 | LtKettch | :) |
| 20:22.52 | LtKettch | I got a better one : some gm told my friend that switzerland isn't in europe :) |
| 20:22.56 | Teomyr | also, he didn't see why a rogue's "blind" shouldn't trigger ranged weapon procs :/ |
| 20:23.00 | Teomyr | lol |
| 20:24.02 | Shadowed | lol |
| 20:24.42 | Shadowed | I'm not really sure why the GM's don't know more about the game they're supporting though, but I guess most of what they deal with is harrasment/botting claims which dont really require that |
| 20:24.45 | SB1-Work | I've got a better one still |
| 20:24.49 | Teomyr | yes |
| 20:25.01 | SB1-Work | My brother's friend was MCing noobs (PvP server) off a cliff for hours on end |
| 20:25.13 | SB1-Work | GM whispered him twice, asking him to stop (complaints) |
| 20:25.23 | SB1-Work | GM appeared to said guy |
| 20:25.27 | SB1-Work | GM = MC'd and thrown off cliff |
| 20:25.30 | Shadowed | hahahah |
| 20:25.33 | LtKettch | LOL |
| 20:25.34 | Teomyr | rofl |
| 20:25.40 | SB1-Work | The guy got a 3 hour ban for it |
| 20:25.42 | Kaso | Shadowed : this is a quote, "I applied for a GM position (in Ireland) about two weeks ago and just today they told me its for WoW. Having never played it before they told me to go play it and get to level 20 for my interview on Monday on which I will be tested" |
| 20:25.48 | SB1-Work | Most awesome reason to be banned EVER |
| 20:25.58 | LtKettch | i'd ake the 3h ban... without hesitation ! |
| 20:26.00 | Shadowed | agreed, did he get screenshots? |
| 20:26.04 | LtKettch | (and I'd record a video ;)) |
| 20:26.06 | SB1-Work | This was >1 year ago |
| 20:26.16 | SB1-Work | So sadly no :( |
| 20:26.20 | SB1-Work | But holy crap |
| 20:26.27 | Shadowed | I've got screenshots from a year ago! |
| 20:26.33 | SB1-Work | How many people can say that they've MC/d and killed a GM before? |
| 20:26.35 | Teomyr | a gm told me they're not allowed to show themselves to players without a valid reason |
| 20:26.35 | Shadowed | Kaso: Yeah, thats kind of what I was guessing. Apparently they don't have that strict of a test :p |
| 20:26.55 | SB1-Work | "valid reason" would be getting someone's attention that was ignoring his tells |
| 20:27.05 | Teomyr | aah :D |
| 20:27.16 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 20:27.25 | Shadowed | although, he apparently forgot to flag himself as immune |
| 20:27.29 | LtKettch | (that's weird, I thought all Europe GMs were in france...) |
| 20:27.40 | Teomyr | indeed, they should be |
| 20:28.11 | Shadowed | only thing that they really would need to know is the language i'd imagine? |
| 20:29.20 | LtKettch | yeah that's it, probably... |
| 20:29.21 | Teomyr | as for the language, only english is a must if you work for blizzard europe, i heard. might be a bit difficult, though, if you live in france and don't speak french :D |
| 20:30.15 | LtKettch | well there are GMs for all europe languages for which there are servers : french, english, german and spanish |
| 20:30.36 | LtKettch | but I think english is mandatory.... |
| 20:30.52 | Shadowed | so yeah, you wouldn't have to actually live there to learn the language. which would explain why they wouldn't know that |
| 20:31.32 | Kaso | LtKettch im pretty sure all the gms are in paris acttually, im not totally sure about what thats on about. |
| 20:31.44 | Teomyr | english is mandatory, as is living in france. they have to work from Vélizy, where blizzard europe is located |
| 20:31.54 | Shadowed | ah |
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| 20:32.08 | Shadowed | well, I give up trying to explain why he would think that |
| 20:32.08 | SB1-Work | I know a guy who applied to be a GM |
| 20:32.10 | LtKettch | yeah that's it, europe HQ is in Velizy |
| 20:32.13 | SB1-Work | Turns out they're paid minimum wage |
| 20:32.25 | LtKettch | so yeah, living in france is mandatory, but some of them come from other countries in europe |
| 20:33.19 | Teomyr | yeah. maybe that's why it's a bit difficult to find skilled gms |
| 20:33.34 | LtKettch | i'm french myself, and know someone who was a GM |
| 20:33.55 | LtKettch | he had played RPGs before, so they just went crazy about recruiting him... ;) |
| 20:33.58 | SB1-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46970629&sid=1 <-- lol, I already had the OP on ignore |
| 20:34.03 | Teomyr | LtKettch: nice :D |
| 20:34.04 | LtKettch | no doubt when you see most GMs ;) |
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| 20:36.20 | Shadowed | we need reading tests for addons |
| 20:36.28 | Shadowed | make them answer a quiz before the addons enabled or something |
| 20:36.32 | Kaso | haha |
| 20:36.52 | Shadowed | ckknight: We need an AceQuiz |
| 20:37.15 | TS|Skrom | do I just suck at shaman or is burning steppes too hard for a 49? |
| 20:37.26 | Kaso | ever heard of drawball, something like the test you have to do to use that would be cool |
| 20:37.28 | Shadowed | burning steppes is a pretty bad place to level |
| 20:37.46 | TS|Skrom | leveling is my secondary goal |
| 20:37.59 | TS|Skrom | trying to get black dragon scales and my only skinner is 49 :-/ |
| 20:37.59 | ckknight | Shadowed, mmm... why? |
| 20:38.09 | Shadowed | [36:11] <Shadowed> we need reading tests for addons |
| 20:38.10 | Shadowed | [36:19] <Shadowed> make them answer a quiz before the addons enabled or something |
| 20:38.39 | Teomyr | [21:34:09] <SB1-Work> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46970629&sid=1 [...] |
| 20:48.01 | SB1-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47155117&sid=1&pageNo=3#54 <-- bot authors? huh? |
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| 20:53.19 | JoshBorke | la di da |
| 20:53.21 | JoshBorke | quiet in here |
| 20:55.00 | Kaso | im trying to decode the link SB1-Work gave |
| 20:55.13 | JoshBorke | what link? |
| 20:55.17 | JoshBorke | i've been busy working for once |
| 20:55.30 | SB1-Work | The last one? |
| 20:55.30 | SB1-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47155117&sid=1&pageNo=3#54 |
| 20:55.31 | Kaso | (20:49:46) (SB1-Work) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47155117&sid=1&pageNo=3#54 <-- bot authors? huh? |
| 20:55.34 | Kaso | yah |
| 20:55.45 | Kaso | what's that dude talking about |
| 20:55.46 | SB1-Work | What does he mean by "bot authors"? |
| 20:55.48 | SB1-Work | Yeah.. |
| 20:56.22 | Neuro_Medivh | he's saying that Glide has a BC version already |
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| 20:56.32 | Shadowed | oh |
| 20:56.32 | Neuro_Medivh | so the authors of Glide must already be in the beta |
| 20:56.37 | SB1-Work | Well gee, I wonder why |
| 20:56.45 | Neuro_Medivh | which isn't hard to imagine, I'm sure they wrote legit addons too |
| 20:56.48 | SB1-Work | Wouldn't be because it's basically the same thing? :P |
| 20:57.10 | Neuro_Medivh | well, ironically, it doesn't matter, cause Glide is now detectable |
| 20:57.10 | Shadowed | A glider version of TBC just means it has options to use the new talents/abilities really. |
| 20:57.24 | Shadowed | And given the fact that they can get all of the info without being in the beta |
| 20:57.41 | Kaso | Neuro_Medivh mhm, seen the thread in their forums about the recent bannings |
| 20:57.47 | Neuro_Medivh | well, the Banhammer of Doom has descended on the glide botters anyway |
| 20:57.51 | Shadowed | or hell, they could just write a legit addon and get a key from WoWI. It's not like they're stupid with no idea of how to code |
| 20:58.05 | SB1-Work | Yeah, something like Glide isn't easily done |
| 20:58.13 | SB1-Work | Especially considering that it doesn't hook anything in wow at al |
| 20:58.16 | SB1-Work | s/al/all/ |
| 20:58.28 | SB1-Work | wow purl, you're broken |
| 20:58.37 | SB1-Work | ... or it just matched the first one. heh./ |
| 20:58.50 | Teomyr | :D |
| 20:59.08 | Kaso | but, i was more wondering what the guy himself was meaning, it seemed he was insiuating that nelf hunter ( see icons not names :<) was a bot author |
| 20:59.44 | Shadowed | I actually can't think of anything that would really require actually being in TBC itself to update Glider. Since I think you set the movement paths yourself |
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| 21:01.29 | Shadowed | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=46969505&sid=1 good ol raid and dungeon forums |
| 21:03.47 | Kaso | i find it slightly amusing that there's now 42 pages in the thread titled "11/14/06 - Latest ban wave?" in the glide forums. |
| 21:04.04 | Shadowed | lol |
| 21:05.29 | Neuro_Medivh | That's not a wave, that's a deluge of biblical proportions |
| 21:05.49 | nymbia | i think that qualifies as a 'pwning' |
| 21:06.14 | Shadowed | well |
| 21:06.16 | Shadowed | 42 pages |
| 21:06.35 | Shadowed | 15 posts per a page, probably around 600 bans. |
| 21:07.30 | JoshBorke | how do you gc strings? |
| 21:07.48 | Esamynn | you release them and let the GC deal with it |
| 21:07.55 | JoshBorke | does it ever deal with them? |
| 21:08.13 | Esamynn | it'll collect them if they aren't in use anymore |
| 21:08.28 | Esamynn | same as any other value |
| 21:08.40 | JoshBorke | because i tried using a string as a weak value in a table and it wasn't collected by collectgarbage() |
| 21:09.22 | Esamynn | strings don't count as ojbects |
| 21:09.29 | Esamynn | weak references don't work on them |
| 21:09.37 | JoshBorke | BAH! i didn't want to hear that :-( |
| 21:10.12 | Esamynn | they are pointers in the background, but because that's not the way the programmer deals with them, they aren't treated that way by the GC |
| 21:10.37 | Esamynn | Beta Patch has been posted! |
| 21:10.48 | JoshBorke | hrmph. so really the only thing i can use for weak references are objects ala tables? |
| 21:11.01 | Esamynn | or functions |
| 21:11.11 | Mikma | Esamynn: linx! |
| 21:11.27 | Esamynn | Mikma: huh? |
| 21:12.12 | Antiarc | Patch notes? |
| 21:12.15 | Mikma | Esamynn: i was refering if there is notes |
| 21:12.59 | Antiarc | If those of you familiar with secure frames could take a look at this and comment, I'd appreciate it. I -think- I understand how these frames work, but I'm not positive yet. I figured I'd document as I learned so other noobs could avoid the learning curve. :) |
| 21:13.00 | Antiarc | http://www.wowwiki.com/SecureFramesOverview |
| 21:13.03 | Shadowed | worldofraids usually ends upw ith the info quickly |
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| 21:14.56 | Shadowed | odd |
| 21:15.07 | foxlit | wiki needs to update how they format code |
| 21:15.17 | Shadowed | [TEMPORARY] Blizzard Scan failed to complete. NEED WORDING. Continue anyway. Quit |
| 21:15.18 | foxlit | black on white on black doesn't appeal visually |
| 21:15.38 | Antiarc | Eh. Coloring would be nice, but at least it's readable. |
| 21:15.41 | Esamynn | Shadowed: it does that if it can't connect to it's server |
| 21:15.48 | Shadowed | Esamynn: I see |
| 21:16.21 | foxlit | Bold fixed-width font in some shade of yellow on another shade of grey would do the trick. |
| 21:16.38 | foxlit | But what kills me more is how the scrollbars appear even though there's nothing there to scroll |
| 21:16.59 | Antiarc | Which browser? |
| 21:17.09 | foxlit | IE7 |
| 21:17.13 | SB1-Work | wow @ the glide forums.. |
| 21:18.07 | foxlit | do user stylesheets work now, by the way? |
| 21:18.07 | SB1-Work | That's some pretty impressive banning |
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| 21:22.28 | cogwheel | foxlit: I use the Stylish plugin for FF |
| 21:22.49 | cogwheel | fixes the nasty double-line [pre] bug on the wow forums :) |
| 21:23.11 | foxlit | There's a double line [pre] bug on the wow forums? |
| 21:23.29 | Mery | IE doesn't render it that way... |
| 21:23.32 | cogwheel | yep. Blizzard's web geniuses put <BR> tags at the end of lines inside [pre] |
| 21:23.44 | cogwheel | Mery: that's IE's error... |
| 21:23.50 | Shadowed | SB1-Work: Probably around 800 people banned just in the posts alone. good times |
| 21:23.57 | Mery | thats what I kind of said =) |
| 21:24.06 | Shadowed | IE7 > FF |
| 21:24.27 | SB1-Work | Shadowed, and most all of those people had at least two accounts |
| 21:24.29 | cogwheel | regardless, it still is supposed to render extra lines but isn't |
| 21:24.54 | cogwheel | the whole point of [pre] is that it preserves whitespace. <br> is completely redundant |
| 21:25.38 | foxlit | Blessed be the tagsoup parser that is IE7. |
| 21:25.45 | JoshBorke | *sigh* |
| 21:26.30 | foxlit | And no, wiki doesn't do user stylesheets :( |
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| 21:26.57 | Kaso | so, umm, anyone got the EU patch up on a mirror |
| 21:27.15 | Teomyr | which one? |
| 21:27.45 | SB1-Work | Kaso, can you torrent *at all*? |
| 21:28.09 | Kaso | most of the time, no |
| 21:28.18 | SB1-Work | Well never mind then :) |
| 21:28.25 | Kaso | on some rare occations it works, but |
| 21:28.50 | Kaso | and Teomyr, WoW-2.0.2.6108-to-2.0.2.6144-enGB |
| 21:29.23 | Teomyr | sorry, no :/ |
| 21:29.52 | SB1-Work | Kaso, if you want, I can get you a .torrent file in a few hours |
| 21:29.58 | Kaso | i have a .torrent at the moment |
| 21:30.01 | foxlit | Could've sworn I read something to the effect of them working when mediawiki was updated |
| 21:30.05 | SB1-Work | Ah |
| 21:30.11 | Kaso | its been running for 10min and has 0kb downloaded |
| 21:30.36 | SB1-Work | Program? |
| 21:30.53 | Kaso | utorrent |
| 21:31.10 | Kaso | well, i dont know how to make a mu symbol, but, that one you know |
| 21:31.14 | SB1-Work | Right |
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| 21:31.22 | SB1-Work | Well, not much I can do them, lol |
| 21:31.24 | SB1-Work | Sorry :/ |
| 21:31.40 | Kaso | ill wait till kirkburn gets around and force him to mirror it again |
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| 21:32.35 | Teomyr | kaso, could you send me the torrent file? |
| 21:32.49 | Kaso | ofc |
| 21:33.10 | Mery | uhm you can right click the nameplate of an nps to interact with it, right? |
| 21:33.15 | Mery | npc* |
| 21:33.33 | Kaso | Nameplate as in the floating HP bars |
| 21:33.39 | Mery | ya |
| 21:34.11 | Kaso | i dont think so, but im not 100% |
| 21:34.23 | Kaso | you mean "interact" like the raidtarget menu etc? |
| 21:34.31 | Mery | no as in buy, sell, speak |
| 21:34.36 | Kaso | oh |
| 21:34.36 | Thunder_Child | i dont think so either, but you can now program with them |
| 21:36.01 | Kaso | Yes you can mery |
| 21:36.41 | Mery | k thanks |
| 21:36.50 | Kaso | but |
| 21:37.09 | Kaso | only if you dont have another unit targeted |
| 21:37.25 | Kaso | wait |
| 21:37.28 | Kaso | ignore me, im stupid |
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| 21:42.53 | Grem | Does anyone know if there's a command to drop an item onto a SendMail? |
| 21:42.56 | Grem | So that you can send an item in the mail |
| 21:43.00 | Grem | attachment |
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| 21:44.02 | Shadowed | The wiki knows all |
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| 21:45.06 | Kaso | its more complicted you have to do PickupContainerItem() then drop it onto the mailframe, |
| 21:45.25 | Kaso | check out CT_Mailmod |
| 21:45.27 | Grem | Shadowed, the wiki doesnt know this =) |
| 21:45.32 | Grem | Okay |
| 21:45.42 | Beladona | the wiki knows only what peple "in the know" tell it |
| 21:45.45 | Beladona | =) |
| 21:45.49 | Shadowed | lol |
| 21:45.51 | Grem | Ive memorized the damn wiki |
| 21:45.53 | Shadowed | this stupid tracker needs to stop going offline |
| 21:46.04 | Grem | And im pretty sure there's nothing about attaching items to mail |
| 21:46.07 | JoshBorke | so much talk in wowace yet so little answers :-( |
| 21:46.09 | JoshBorke | how do I disable an ace addon from another addon? |
| 21:46.29 | foxlit | DisableAddOn("AddonName"); ReloadUI(); ? |
| 21:46.44 | JoshBorke | no, because i'm using the ace addon as a module in my addon |
| 21:46.51 | JoshBorke | there are OnEnable and OnDisable events =/ |
| 21:46.54 | Cide | Grem: yes there is |
| 21:47.21 | Cide | ClickSendMailItemButton() |
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| 21:47.41 | Shadowed | ClickSendMailItemButton() - This seems to just simulate a click on the send item mail slot (will pickup the item there). --Bug 18:59, 4 Feb 2005 (EST) |
| 21:47.58 | Shadowed | except for that annoying -- bug part at the end of it |
| 21:48.27 | Neronix | JoshBorke: Mod:ToggleActive() if it has AceDB mixed in |
| 21:50.29 | Neronix | if the mod is a module, YourMod:ToggleModuleActive("name" or object) |
| 21:50.45 | JoshBorke | Neronix: it doesn't have AceDB |
| 21:50.50 | JoshBorke | Industrial: from another addon ;-) |
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| 21:51.10 | Grem | Wow, that worked Cide =) =) =) |
| 21:51.11 | Grem | Thanks! |
| 21:51.22 | Industrial | JoshBorke: oh, um.. ask ckknight |
| 21:51.24 | JoshBorke | GuildBookSynch = AceLibrary('AceAddon-2.0'):new('AceComm-2.0') is how i get it |
| 21:51.26 | Industrial | ckknight: BEEP BLEEP PING ETC |
| 21:51.33 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 21:51.40 | JoshBorke | how do I disable an ace addon from another addon? |
| 21:51.40 | Industrial | ckknight: JoshBorke, JoshBorke: ckknight |
| 21:51.50 | cubicool | Heyas guys--is there a downloadable API ref or do I need to bust out the recursive wget? :) |
| 21:51.51 | ckknight | um... |
| 21:51.52 | ckknight | lemme think |
| 21:51.59 | Industrial | ckknight: the wiki |
| 21:52.01 | Industrial | ack |
| 21:52.04 | Industrial | cubicool: the wiki |
| 21:52.19 | Esamynn | Industrial: that's not "downloadable" |
| 21:52.23 | Neronix | If you don't want to use AceDB, I'll paste some code I use in NS2 |
| 21:52.24 | cubicool | Industrial: I know, but I'd like to get an offline version so I don't bog down the wiki more than it is. :) |
| 21:52.24 | ckknight | SomeAddon:ToggleActive() |
| 21:52.30 | Esamynn | cubicool: why do you want an offline version? |
| 21:52.30 | Industrial | oh |
| 21:52.44 | ckknight | or specifically SomeAddon:ToggleActive(false) -- turns off |
| 21:52.51 | cubicool | wowwiki is usally pretty slow. (for me, at least, although not always--but more often than not.)O |
| 21:53.45 | JoshBorke | hm, and to test if it is on? |
| 21:54.05 | Esamynn | cubicool: well, I think the recursive wget is your best bet, but I'd still say you should stick with just using the online version :) |
| 21:54.06 | ckknight | JoshBorke, SomeAddin:IsActive() |
| 21:54.12 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 21:54.15 | JoshBorke | i have a feeling that won't work |
| 21:54.17 | ckknight | JoshBorke, why don't you read the wiki? this is all documented. |
| 21:54.31 | JoshBorke | ckknight: this is how I define it GuildBookSynch = AceLibrary('AceAddon-2.0'):new('AceComm-2.0') |
| 21:54.36 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i did, and i never saw it anywhere |
| 21:54.45 | ckknight | JoshBorke, you can't disable that addon, it doesn't use AceDB |
| 21:54.54 | Neronix | http://pastey.net/2503 |
| 21:54.59 | Neronix | ckknight: orly? |
| 21:55.04 | Industrial | yarly |
| 21:55.04 | Neronix | See that pastey |
| 21:55.06 | JoshBorke | *sigh* ok |
| 21:55.15 | ckknight | well, disable it the normal way. |
| 21:55.30 | JoshBorke | how do i trigger the OnEnable/OnDisable methods then? |
| 21:55.39 | ckknight | ickily. |
| 21:55.41 | Neronix | JoshBorke: see the pastey |
| 21:55.50 | Industrial | JoshBorke: Addon:OnDisable() |
| 21:55.50 | Industrial | gg |
| 21:55.51 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:56.02 | Neronix | It's essentially how AceDB does it |
| 21:56.28 | Industrial | why isnt it in AceAddon-2.0, ckknight ? |
| 21:56.47 | JoshBorke | *sigh* yea, i'll just do it myself |
| 21:56.47 | ckknight | because it's not supposed to be. |
| 21:56.47 | Neronix | It'd make more sense to be there iirc |
| 21:56.47 | ckknight | it's supposed to be in AceDB |
| 21:57.00 | Industrial | what is it supposed to do then |
| 21:57.00 | ckknight | since that's what keeps track of the disabled state. |
| 21:57.09 | cogwheel | Heh... the glider people actually have a point in their restraining order filing... Blizzard would have to prove that they suffered damages caused by people using glider. |
| 21:57.25 | ckknight | AceAddon just handles :OnInitialize and the first :OnEnable, and provides an easy interface for people to add mixins. |
| 21:57.27 | ckknight | that's it. |
| 21:57.28 | JoshBorke | anyway, i'm off |
| 21:57.35 | JoshBorke | thanks for an answer |
| 21:57.58 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, the time and effort the GMs spent policing the game and taking reports from players |
| 21:58.12 | Industrial | so disableing an ace2 addon only really disables its AceDB? |
| 21:58.13 | SB1-Work | and in turn the GMs wages that could have otherwise been devoted to more useful thigns |
| 21:58.22 | ckknight | Industrial, no. |
| 21:58.23 | nymbia | cogwheel: why? blizzard can disable any account they want to, whenever they want to, for any reason or for none at all. |
| 21:58.25 | cogwheel | that could work... |
| 21:58.30 | ckknight | that's not how Ace2 is structured, Industrial |
| 21:58.33 | SB1-Work | *things |
| 21:58.44 | cogwheel | nymbia: it's not about the bans... blizzard is threatening to sue the creators of glider |
| 21:58.45 | ckknight | by disabling it in AceDB, it calls :OnEmbedDisable on all mixins, and :OnDisable on the addon. |
| 21:59.01 | ckknight | cogwheel, hrm. |
| 21:59.06 | Industrial | so it DOES disable the addon |
| 21:59.09 | Industrial | JoshBorke: --^ |
| 21:59.14 | cubicool | Wiki VS wget; Wiki wins... |
| 21:59.29 | ckknight | yes, Industrial |
| 21:59.51 | nymbia | cogwheel: oh, that IS trickier. |
| 22:00.03 | ckknight | sorta. |
| 22:00.20 | Industrial | 2.0.2.6144 \o/ |
| 22:00.39 | cogwheel | the complaint against blizzard was linked here earlier... http://www.komjesnel.nl/lawsuitwow.pdf |
| 22:00.42 | Industrial | cogwheel: they cant... |
| 22:00.45 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, use the GMs time and effort in combo with the EULA/ToS and I'm pretty sure that glider is toast.. from reading their forums, glider *reads* WoW's memory, and in turn is probably liable under the infamous DMCA |
| 22:03.12 | cogwheel | I bet the GM's time and effort could be successfully defended, but not sure about DMCA |
| 22:03.50 | SB1-Work | Even removing the DMCA, glider's FAQ states that it *is* a 3rd party program and it *is* against their ToS |
| 22:03.52 | Beladona | that lawsuit puts a smile on my face |
| 22:04.04 | Beladona | in favor of Blizz of course |
| 22:04.09 | Shadowed | "It violates the EULA and the terms of use agrement, which would normally allow for a summary judgement for blizzard. But interestingly, some jurisdictions say that EULAs etc are adhesion contracts. Some hold that these click through contracts aren't valid, and would allow for litigation" |
| 22:04.12 | Elkano | cogwheel, since you maintain the 2.0 suggestions thread, would you mind to post these three for me? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=6858 |
| 22:04.15 | Shadowed | was pretty much what a guildy posted regarding it |
| 22:04.22 | SB1-Work | Point |
| 22:04.34 | cogwheel | Elkano: i'll take a look |
| 22:04.43 | nymbia | well, what about laws regarding plain ole viruses? they could almost get it classified as such, since it modifies their software |
| 22:04.45 | Elkano | thx :) |
| 22:04.46 | axxo | blizzard has more money then glider. |
| 22:04.57 | axxo | glider will be banned. |
| 22:05.04 | Shadowed | nymbia: I don't think it modifies their software |
| 22:05.13 | SB1-Work | nymbia, viruses could fall under the DMCA too. It's *that* broad |
| 22:05.45 | cogwheel | SB1-Work: but the contract doesn't exist between glider & blizz. it's between the user and blizz. In order for there to be an intentional interference with contractual relationship, there have to be damages. I think it could be successfully defended that blizzard didn't suffer damages (though you'd have to have a pretty damned good lawyer) |
| 22:05.54 | Industrial | <@Beladona> in favor of Blizz of course |
| 22:05.56 | Industrial | boo :p |
| 22:06.11 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.13 | nymbia | Shadowed: it reads from wow's memory space, and reacts accordingly -- that's pretty close. |
| 22:06.15 | cladhaire | Hai there. |
| 22:06.19 | Industrial | hello thar |
| 22:06.21 | Beladona | I agree they may or many not have a way to go after wowglider. But I do think they are fully in their rights to go after users who use it |
| 22:06.24 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, very good point.. |
| 22:06.25 | Shadowed | nymbia: Depends how you define it |
| 22:06.33 | cogwheel | Still don't know about the DMCA though |
| 22:06.37 | Industrial | Beladona: yes i agree there |
| 22:06.42 | Elkano | there aren't any patch notes for the new patch, yet, are there? |
| 22:06.45 | Beladona | either way, I am glad they are doing it |
| 22:06.49 | Beladona | it shows they are trying |
| 22:06.54 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, it remotely touches WoW's address space. Violation. Bam. |
| 22:07.10 | Industrial | Beladona: but i wholeheartedly do not agree with the 'ram scanning |
| 22:07.12 | Industrial | thing |
| 22:07.14 | SB1-Work | Realize that taking screenshots of a movie with the printscreen button can be counted as a violation |
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| 22:07.24 | Beladona | well |
| 22:07.28 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Firefox ? |
| 22:07.30 | Shadowed | If they're going to sue for anything, it would probably be for what the Warden does and not them being banned anyway |
| 22:07.33 | foxlit | Should that really be there? |
| 22:07.37 | Beladona | that is a point of contention |
| 22:07.46 | Industrial | the ram is my ownage. blizzard uses my ram |
| 22:07.49 | Gryphen | foxlit imho no |
| 22:07.54 | Industrial | ownage.. I own the ram* |
| 22:08.00 | Beladona | you agree to allow them to scan it when you sign in though |
| 22:08.02 | Beladona | thats the catch |
| 22:08.06 | Industrial | yep |
| 22:08.07 | Neuro_Medivh | the real problem is the $25 dollars that wowglider charges. Commercial use vs Private use is completely different |
| 22:08.09 | nymbia | Blizzard's got plenty of lawyers making sure what warden does is legal. |
| 22:08.28 | sylvanaar | Industrial: AceDB = SavedVariables, your addon loads with them they are parallel loading concepts |
| 22:08.29 | Beladona | before you sign in actually, ala the agreement you click through ever patch |
| 22:08.47 | Grem | Okay, I have another problem if someone can help =) |
| 22:09.07 | Industrial | sylvanaar: loading impliesmore then reading SV files.. |
| 22:09.08 | Grem | Im trying to remove one item from a stack of items, and place it in a seperate container spot |
| 22:09.21 | Shadowed | well, the general lawsuit is silly. But they look better if it's "fighting the giant corporation that wants to invade our personal life" over "I got banned because I ignored a TOS/EULA" |
| 22:09.27 | Grem | I do: SplitContainerItem( yadda, yadda, 1 ), and it puts 1 item in the stack in my cursor |
| 22:09.31 | Neuro_Medivh | Warden does not violate privacy laws. It doesn't tell Blizzard what you are running, merely that you are running something defined as against TOS |
| 22:09.35 | Grem | But how do I place that item away from the stack? |
| 22:09.48 | Shadowed | You use PickupContainerItem |
| 22:09.52 | Shadowed | PickupContainerItem( bag, slot ) |
| 22:10.04 | sylvanaar | Industrial: yeah i know - im just saying that each library is handling a separate aspect |
| 22:10.14 | Grem | Picking it up will place it? |
| 22:10.18 | Industrial | yeah |
| 22:10.21 | Grem | Oh damn |
| 22:10.21 | Grem | Nice |
| 22:10.23 | Grem | Thanks =) |
| 22:10.30 | Shadowed | Grem: Yeah, it's an odd name, but it'll place it in the bag/slot you pass |
| 22:11.01 | Shadowed | just make sure the bag/slot is empty of course, or it'll pickup the item in that slot instead of placing your split one in it. |
| 22:11.01 | Grem | Thanks much |
| 22:11.05 | Grem | Right |
| 22:14.26 | Industrial | someone should sue blizzard to get them to change the ram thingy :( |
| 22:14.37 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, just thought of something... while it is true that there is no contract between glider and blizz, *intent matters* in the courts.. that program is clearly there to interact with WoW (DMCA), and further is also clearly there and they acknowledge that their program is against the ToS/EULA.. their *intent* is to break the (technically) legally binding documents and not be caught |
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| 22:14.44 | Industrial | tbh the net would be crawing all over with scanners and cheats >:P |
| 22:15.19 | cogwheel | SB1-Work: I'm sure blizz can nail them with the DMCA, but the claim about intent to break the contracts requires there to be damages |
| 22:15.33 | cogwheel | the DMCA doesn't involve the contract at all |
| 22:16.04 | SB1-Work | Right, that was two seperate issues I had in one line |
| 22:16.05 | wereHamster | how much is 0xbb104 in decimal? |
| 22:16.14 | SB1-Work | But curious, I think I'm missing something.. with that logic, it's okay to break contracts as long as there are no damages? |
| 22:16.29 | sylvanaar | i hate these legal battles - please describle your arguement using LUA or XML or C++ |
| 22:16.33 | Mery | 766212 |
| 22:16.35 | cogwheel | wereHamster: are you on windows? you can use your Calculator. Switch to scientific mode (under the View menue) and it has options for Hex, Dec, Oct, & bin |
| 22:16.44 | cogwheel | s/menue/menu/ |
| 22:16.50 | wereHamster | no, linux, and somehow gcalctool is missing :( |
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| 22:17.21 | JoshBorke | ok, back |
| 22:18.04 | JoshBorke | Industrial: so I have to mixin AceDB (which I don't use) to get my OnDisable called. no thanks |
| 22:18.13 | JoshBorke | all I'm using Ace for is AceComm :( |
| 22:18.19 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 22:18.28 | JoshBorke | just to handle the serialization for me |
| 22:18.38 | End | aww damn, beta is down isn't it |
| 22:19.03 | End | oh |
| 22:19.09 | End | nvm, this thread says otherwise |
| 22:19.15 | End | I'm still downloading the patch though |
| 22:19.18 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, section 9 and 10 of PDF |
| 22:20.33 | cogwheel | SB1-Work: yep. The DCMA is the only part that has any teeth. The interference with contractual relationship is easily defensible though |
| 22:20.49 | SB1-Work | I'm still trying to decipher that part |
| 22:21.06 | cogwheel | http://www.lectlaw.com/def/i084.htm |
| 22:21.28 | SB1-Work | brb, then I shall read linked wall of text |
| 22:21.29 | cogwheel | more concise (you have to scroll down a bit) http://www.west.net/~smith/intentional.htm |
| 22:22.01 | ckknight | Shadowed, what'd you do? |
| 22:22.17 | Shadowed | linked the PDF like 30 minutes ago witht he lawsuit :p |
| 22:22.25 | Shadowed | s/t he/ the/ |
| 22:23.15 | Industrial | Shadowed: I read it and blizzard should back off |
| 22:23.18 | Industrial | imho |
| 22:23.33 | Antiarc | Wait, there's an actual lawsuit now? |
| 22:23.55 | cogwheel | no... blizzard threatened a lawsuit. The people they threatened are filing a restraining order |
| 22:24.11 | cogwheel | s/g a/g for a/ |
| 22:24.26 | Shadowed | http://www.komjesnel.nl/lawsuitwow.pdf |
| 22:24.45 | JoshBorke | I suppose I should only register my com module with AceComm once... |
| 22:24.49 | Antiarc | MDY = Glider folks? |
| 22:24.58 | Antiarc | Huh, there's here in Phoenix. Bizarre. |
| 22:25.01 | Antiarc | Err. They're. |
| 22:25.58 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 22:26.08 | Industrial | ah i can only go to the test server and i cant make a char or something |
| 22:27.16 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, that's a restraining order? How so? |
| 22:27.26 | SB1-Work | Oh, never mind |
| 22:27.38 | Antiarc | http://www.google.com/search?q=michael+donnelly+phoenix&hl=en&hs=G19&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&pb=r&sa=X&oi=rwp&ct=title :O |
| 22:28.21 | Industrial | http://www.google.com/search?q=michael+donnelly+phoenix |
| 22:28.55 | Industrial | Antiarc: whos that? |
| 22:29.09 | Antiarc | The guy named in the lawsuit, apparently. |
| 22:29.27 | Antiarc | I live in Phoenix. I didn't realize that WoWGlider was my next door neighbor. Well, not literally. |
| 22:30.14 | sylvanaar | the main screen music sounds different |
| 22:30.17 | Antiarc | It is |
| 22:30.19 | Industrial | it is |
| 22:30.25 | Antiarc | Basically all the music got an overhaul |
| 22:30.26 | Antiarc | It's wonderful. |
| 22:30.29 | Industrial | yeah |
| 22:30.39 | Industrial | be sure to check out your music settings and enable everything |
| 22:30.42 | Industrial | :D |
| 22:33.12 | Industrial | fortunately Im nowhere to be found on the internet except at wowace \o/ (tom.wieland@gmail.com) |
| 22:33.31 | SB1-Work | I'm found in a huge number of places on the internet |
| 22:33.35 | Industrial | and wowi |
| 22:33.43 | Industrial | and #scheme apparently (darn logs) |
| 22:33.55 | Industrial | (on another email :P |
| 22:37.15 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: you can try Telepathy - it probably has dependancies on sea though |
| 22:38.36 | sylvanaar | i cant connect to the tbc server |
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| 22:40.13 | Mery | lol was just for fun reading the glider forum after the discussion here - and it's always funny how people say "they lose xxx$ a year for banning us, they lose!!" |
| 22:41.05 | zenzelezz | yeah, cause Blizzard isn't earning much from the rest of us =) |
| 22:41.27 | Shadowed | Mery: wheres this |
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| 22:42.40 | Industrial | they probably lose mroe from paying GMs |
| 22:43.09 | wereHamster | is it possible to get a wowwiki DB dump? |
| 22:43.26 | zenzelezz | I wonder how many GMs they have in total |
| 22:44.33 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: yea, telepathy has just as many requirements as acecomm :-/ |
| 22:45.11 | Industrial | settle with not disabling it then |
| 22:45.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:45.21 | Industrial | borkborkbork |
| 22:45.31 | Industrial | (just had to say that kek) |
| 22:45.52 | JoshBorke | :P i just created my own IsEnabled, Disable, Enable methods :P |
| 22:46.11 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 22:46.59 | JoshBorke | w |
| 22:47.02 | JoshBorke | blasted |
| 22:47.06 | Gryphen | wereHamster, possible yes, likely no |
| 22:47.07 | sylvanaar | you are trying to get acecomm not to use ace-db? |
| 22:47.39 | JoshBorke | no, AceComm doesn't use Ace-DB |
| 22:49.57 | sylvanaar | yeah, i just looked - you just want your events fired, and those are linked to ace-db so it can manage saved variables for you |
| 22:50.58 | JoshBorke | which i'm using Ace as a module inside my addon |
| 22:51.05 | JoshBorke | so I don't need any of its stuff :) |
| 22:53.02 | sylvanaar | cant you just use aceaddon without ace-db |
| 22:54.41 | Mikma | yes |
| 22:54.56 | Kaso | does anyone know a straight up blp viewer |
| 22:55.28 | sylvanaar | i only know converters |
| 22:55.46 | Kaso | ive found one, but its for mac :< silly macs |
| 22:56.10 | Mikma | woot? does it support converting? |
| 22:56.15 | Mikma | if so, paste link! |
| 22:57.03 | Kaso | http://blp.dynalias.net/Public/BLP_Viewer/BLP_Viewer.php |
| 22:57.18 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3070.new#new |
| 22:57.20 | Industrial | should i edit that? |
| 22:57.28 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: lol, yea, i'm not using Ace-DB at all :) |
| 22:57.28 | Industrial | oops wrong channel |
| 22:58.01 | Mikma | Kaso: danke! |
| 22:59.48 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: yeah - im not sure its needed, plus it didnt work the way I thought |
| 23:02.40 | sylvanaar | heres a general question - when are LoD addon's saved variables loaded? Can you use a LoD addon in an unloaded state to load data into wow while its running, or are they really loaded the same as non-lod |
| 23:02.49 | cladhaire | ADDON_LOADED |
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| 23:03.50 | sylvanaar | so, i could have an unloaded LoD addon, write data to teh SV's and load the data into the wow client |
| 23:04.13 | sylvanaar | in theory |
| 23:04.40 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure that SV's aren't loaded for LoD addons until it's actually loaded, and any variable information thats set before that is overwritten when the addon is loaded |
| 23:05.38 | Shadowed | (and also wont be saved if the addon isn't loaded) |
| 23:05.46 | sylvanaar | i mean, i could edit the saveed varibles files in wtf, and load data into a running wow client |
| 23:05.46 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.56 | cladhaire | zomg hi |
| 23:05.58 | cladhaire | where did i go? |
| 23:06.15 | JoshBorke | you were working earlier :) |
| 23:06.21 | cladhaire | ah yes =) |
| 23:06.45 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: yes, but you could do that with any addon |
| 23:07.15 | sylvanaar | Josh, not while the client is running |
| 23:07.36 | Shadowed | If it wasn't a LoD addon then the config would just be overwritten JoshBorke |
| 23:07.45 | Shadowed | an unloaded LoD addon* |
| 23:09.40 | JoshBorke | hm, so there's no way for me to make my ace module default to being disabled :-/ |
| 23:09.49 | cladhaire | yeah there is. |
| 23:09.56 | cladhaire | you have to in the parent module's initialize disable it. |
| 23:10.02 | cladhaire | Clique live does it |
| 23:10.08 | cladhaire | then conditionally enables them |
| 23:11.32 | JoshBorke | hm, but see, my main addon isn't ace. i just have a file in my addon that does <thing> = AceLibrary('AceAddon-2.0'):new('AceComm-2.0') |
| 23:12.13 | cladhaire | should still be able to use a similar concept |
| 23:12.15 | cladhaire | i dunno |
| 23:14.03 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: you are mizing conceptz - modules are an ace concept, if you arent using ace's module concept you can do whatever you want |
| 23:14.28 | Industrial | and it would break if ace wasnt there |
| 23:14.51 | Industrial | logically :P |
| 23:15.28 | JoshBorke | Industrial: just the specific functionality would break :) which would be ok since it's optional |
| 23:15.45 | Industrial | oh ok |
| 23:21.11 | LtKettch | gotta go, cya ! and thx for the help ;) |
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| 23:22.56 | Inside | Anyone here a paladin? An elderly woman in my guild is a 50 pally and she wants suggestions on how to respec -- she wants to be a healing/wall type of paladin <.< |
| 23:24.07 | Kaso | arg, the latest patch has fubared CT_BuffMod |
| 23:26.13 | SP|Sorren | anyone have a link to the torrent extractor? |
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| 23:29.28 | Kaso | SP|Sorren http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WoWTorrentEx-2.zip |
| 23:29.28 | Inside | Anyway, she needs something with the least ammount of buttons pushed.. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=qE0uZx0tZx0xLb |
| 23:29.31 | Inside | What do you think :p |
| 23:30.10 | SP|Sorren | Kaso: <3 |
| 23:30.23 | SP|Sorren | blizzard downloader hates my guts. |
| 23:30.36 | sylvanaar | the login server hates mine |
| 23:30.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh hey look no more consumables in forms |
| 23:31.06 | sylvanaar | that sucks |
| 23:31.08 | Kaso | really? |
| 23:31.10 | Kaso | sucky |
| 23:31.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | for definite now |
| 23:31.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | and improved leader of the pack got nerfed |
| 23:32.23 | End | oh doh |
| 23:32.27 | End | my talents got reset |
| 23:32.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | canceling :] |
| 23:32.34 | End | no wonder it takes so long to kill shit |
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| 23:33.46 | End | oh wow, the rage on crit and combo on crit got merged |
| 23:34.07 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 23:34.24 | End | druid feral tree |
| 23:34.30 | sylvanaar | i just want to be able to log on without an insta-disconnect |
| 23:34.30 | Kaso | thought this was just a "Bug fix" patch :> |
| 23:35.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a nerf druids back to uselessness patch so far |
| 23:35.19 | End | I don't like the consumable revert |
| 23:35.28 | End | it was nice bandaging myself in form even if it didn't make sense :P |
| 23:35.41 | End | I think I should be able to eat in form though (I can't) |
| 23:35.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 23:36.07 | End | that would make sense at least :P |
| 23:36.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | Will of the forsaken nerf is one of the listed reasons for account closure |
| 23:36.16 | End | although, if I'm shifting out, I might as well just heal |
| 23:36.31 | End | how did they nerf it? |
| 23:37.47 | SP|Sorren | oof |
| 23:37.52 | SP|Sorren | tbw got hit with a slight nerf |
| 23:37.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | tbw |
| 23:37.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | ? |
| 23:38.02 | SP|Sorren | teh beast within |
| 23:38.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | the beast within |
| 23:38.20 | SP|Sorren | down to +10% damage from +20% |
| 23:38.38 | Kaso | Can you still use ragepot/thistle tea? |
| 23:39.11 | Kaligar | they removed UnitIsMounted() |
| 23:39.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | - Procs removed |
| 23:39.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | - Consumables no longer usable in forms |
| 23:39.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | - Improved Leader of the pack nurfed |
| 23:39.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | - Nurturing Instinct nurfed |
| 23:39.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | weeeeeee |
| 23:39.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | no kaso |
| 23:39.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | no consumables or procs in forms |
| 23:40.06 | sylvanaar | druid rage generation was excessive i noticed |
| 23:40.07 | End | I could handle procs more if there was a good stat enchant for weapon |
| 23:40.11 | Kaligar | and ctbuffmod is snuuffed |
| 23:40.29 | Kaligar | and omg they reset talents and i got own with no scatter shot |
| 23:40.42 | Kaso | Kaligar: they reset talents every patch :> |
| 23:41.06 | Kaligar | ya but i just logged in with a mage next to me |
| 23:41.37 | Kaso | where did you log out ^_- |
| 23:42.16 | Kaligar | in tek forest |
| 23:42.43 | Kaso | i always log out in inns, dont want to miss out on rested |
| 23:42.49 | Kaligar | they gave shat guards info now though |
| 23:43.21 | Kaso | theyve changed the guard near the flight master to Sha'tar rather than Aldor, now i wont get banished everytime i go too close |
| 23:43.54 | eternally777 | heh, anyone else crash when they try to log in beta? |
| 23:44.00 | Kaligar | anyway i can find out the new fuctions? |
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| 23:44.15 | Kaso | extract the FrameXML? |
| 23:44.32 | Kaligar | wowmpq still work? |
| 23:44.43 | Armooo | I am crashing login in to beta now |
| 23:44.51 | Kaso | use the blizzard extractor |
| 23:44.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | goddamnit i'm pissed now |
| 23:45.03 | Kaso | what functions you mean? |
| 23:45.15 | Kaligar | unitismounted is gone |
| 23:45.27 | Kaligar | there must be a replacement |
| 23:46.06 | Kaso | hmm, i guess stuff like that youd have to wait for offical announcement or do getenv(0) :> |
| 23:48.43 | sylvanaar | they fixed lfg/lfm options so it didnt have that useless apply button |
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| 23:49.03 | ckknight | hey all |
| 23:49.22 | Kaso | they also fixed your rank showing as -1 instead of none |
| 23:49.23 | sylvanaar | my client was trying to talk to the test sever |
| 23:49.40 | sylvanaar | instead of the beta server |
| 23:49.53 | Kaso | its the same server. |
| 23:50.25 | Kaso | or at least it is for EU |
| 23:51.15 | wereHamster | yay.. no need to 'chmod 0000 Scan.dll' anymore.. |
| 23:52.58 | ckknight | I want a diff of the framexml. |
| 23:53.27 | SP|Sorren | UnitBuff was changed? |
| 23:53.29 | Kaso | hmm, it seems UnitBuff has changed |
| 23:53.33 | Kaso | wtf |
| 23:53.34 | Kaso | haha |
| 23:53.46 | SP|Sorren | returns name, something, icon, applications now |
| 23:53.50 | SP|Sorren | i wish it'd return timeleft |
| 23:53.52 | SP|Sorren | :P |
| 23:54.20 | Kaso | second return is Rank |
| 23:54.22 | End | oh |
| 23:54.34 | End | I see why they made the cooldown longer on barkskin |
| 23:54.42 | End | barkskin no longer slows cast time |
| 23:54.50 | SP|Sorren | ah, i see |
| 23:54.52 | Kaso | buffName,buffRank,buffIcon,count = UnitBuff() |
| 23:55.22 | cladhaire | End: it does, but not if you hjave the talent that stop it |
| 23:55.23 | cladhaire | im |
| 23:55.40 | End | the talent that stop it? |
| 23:55.51 | Industrial | someone is telling me my beta char will be wiped |
| 23:55.58 | Industrial | is that true? |
| 23:56.11 | Kaligar | sooner or later |
| 23:56.12 | cogwheel | of course... are you expecting to be able to keep it? |
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| 23:56.18 | Industrial | yes why not.. |
| 23:56.29 | End | it'll be wiped when the beta ends |
| 23:56.33 | cladhaire | that is in the void |
| 23:56.36 | Kaligar | because its a beta char? |
| 23:56.39 | End | that always happens with betas |
| 23:56.41 | Industrial | and? |
| 23:56.43 | Industrial | no it doesnt |
| 23:56.52 | Kaligar | ya t does |
| 23:56.54 | Kaso | cos people would moan if we all came in with level 70 chars ganking their 60's |
| 23:56.54 | Saeris | Usually, though. |
| 23:56.55 | Industrial | i beta test alot of games |
| 23:57.01 | End | ok |
| 23:57.04 | End | with the WoW betas |
| 23:57.07 | End | there. |
| 23:57.07 | Industrial | well i moan when i get ganked by their 70s |
| 23:57.11 | Industrial | table turned bitch |
| 23:57.15 | Industrial | 60s* |
| 23:57.15 | Shadowed | Because you gain exellerated XP and you're testing the game? |
| 23:57.18 | Kaligar | anyone that allows test chars into the real servers is retarded |
| 23:57.20 | cogwheel | And... if they won't let PvE->PvP transfers, they're not going to let people who levelled on the beta servers transfer to normal servers |
| 23:57.51 | Saeris | What's this new patch for? Haven't found any notes yet. |
| 23:57.52 | Industrial | well then half of the use of being in the beta just dropped for me |
| 23:57.59 | Shadowed | blizzard is always willing to find people who don't care if they lose the character or not anymore |
| 23:58.01 | Kaligar | lol |
| 23:58.03 | cogwheel | Saeris: they're not very reliable on providing notes for the beta patches |
| 23:58.08 | Shadowed | er, willing = able |
| 23:58.28 | Kaligar | beta is not there so you can lvl faster |
| 23:58.30 | cogwheel | Industrial: the whole point of the beta is to test the content, not to advance in the game |
| 23:58.39 | Industrial | im not htere to level faster |
| 23:58.39 | Industrial | im there to have a char |
| 23:58.44 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:59.04 | Shadowed | well, guess youll have to wait for TBC to be released |
| 23:59.04 | Kaligar | what games have let beta chars into the real servers |
| 23:59.06 | Industrial | oh and convert my addons |
| 23:59.06 | cogwheel | Well that's just plain silly :P If this weren't an MMO, then that'd be one thing |
| 23:59.17 | Industrial | Kaligar: cant remember |
| 23:59.24 | Kaligar | exactly |
| 23:59.26 | SP|Sorren | Kaligar: WoW did in korea i think |
| 23:59.34 | SP|Sorren | but that's supposed to be the norm there? |
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| 23:59.55 | Kaligar | korea gamers are all insane anyways |
| 23:59.56 | wereHamster | when I try to log in into the beta server, I get instantly disconnected.. is that normal? |
| 23:59.57 | cogwheel | well, that's a bit different... they were only beta testing a translation basically... the game already existed in its complete form... |