| 00:01.44 | |Shadow| | sigh :( |
| 00:01.50 | |Shadow| | wow rejected my card for some reason :( |
| 00:02.07 | |Shadow| | dunno why it worked last time and my bank balence is just under $900 :S |
| 00:02.17 | |Shadow| | maybe they want more than 900$ ? :P |
| 00:02.32 | Maldivia | maybe you entered the wrong info? |
| 00:02.42 | |Shadow| | not 3 times in a row i didn't :p |
| 00:03.25 | |Shadow| | and not only that, but for some very strange reason |
| 00:03.35 | |Shadow| | because i've used one type of card and it failed 3 times |
| 00:03.42 | |Shadow| | they won't let me use ANY card for the next 24 hours |
| 00:03.44 | |Shadow| | :/ |
| 00:03.59 | |Shadow| | [/whine] |
| 00:04.33 | |Shadow| | must...fuel...wow...addiction :( |
| 00:12.15 | Mike-N-Go | And here I am trying to trouble shout when the problem is the SV file of the project I am working on, lol. |
| 00:12.43 | Mike-N-Go | I changed the table pattern. huhh |
| 00:12.47 | Mike-N-Go | hum |
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| 00:14.44 | a-stray-cat | i'm rather content being a stray. |
| 00:15.13 | |Shadow| | oh ok :) |
| 00:15.13 | a-stray-cat | :3 |
| 00:15.14 | a-stray-cat | works for me! |
| 00:15.25 | |Shadow| | :D |
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| 00:26.28 | Mike-N-Go | My 'lil addon has conflict with auctioneer+suite when PickUpContinerItem() is called, and that prevents my code from working when both of them are activated. |
| 00:26.56 | Mike-N-Go | Both addons* |
| 00:27.21 | Cide | paste your code, hooks should not prevent other hooks from working if everyone hooks correctly |
| 00:27.46 | Mike-N-Go | There is like a 15 line long error, all about PickUpContinerItem() |
| 00:28.20 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/2367 |
| 00:28.32 | Mike-N-Go | Not much has changed since when you helped me :) |
| 00:28.47 | Mike-N-Go | I just added AMDRealmFaction = (AMDRealm.."-"..AMDFaction) |
| 00:29.21 | Mike-N-Go | Is that more efficient? |
| 00:29.43 | Mike-N-Go | Then putting [AMDRealm.."-"..AMDFaction] for the table reference? |
| 00:29.49 | Mike-N-Go | What did I do wrong? |
| 00:32.50 | Cide | your hook is fine |
| 00:33.07 | Cide | but if you get a 15 line long error then you need to paste it |
| 00:33.11 | Cide | (again, coding help #101) |
| 00:33.24 | Cide | you need to *always* paste the error message(s) |
| 00:34.05 | cladhaire | saying you have "an error" is like asking me if i know the "guy with the hair" =) |
| 00:34.30 | bljakk | cladhaire: thats hard, do you know any? ;) |
| 00:34.39 | cladhaire | no, i know a guy with a nose |
| 00:34.47 | Mike-N-Go | How do I avoid re-typing all the lines? |
| 00:35.02 | Mike-N-Go | Is there something in dev tools? |
| 00:35.06 | cladhaire | copy and paste them from IEF |
| 00:35.22 | cladhaire | or if you're using bugsack you can get them from the SVN |
| 00:35.24 | cladhaire | SV |
| 00:35.25 | cladhaire | i believe |
| 00:36.06 | Cide | you can c&p from bugsack too |
| 00:36.22 | Mike-N-Go | Let me enable bugsack, one sec |
| 00:36.26 | cladhaire | zomg hax |
| 00:38.34 | bljakk | this is funny, a guy wants to know if theres a macro to invoke keybinding |
| 00:41.29 | thr | ;p |
| 00:42.14 | Mike-N-Go | ~bugsack |
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| 00:42.28 | Mike-N-Go | ~IEF |
| 00:42.41 | Neuro_Medivh | so, does your code completely overtake PickupContainerItem? |
| 00:42.53 | Mike-N-Go | What do you mean? |
| 00:43.00 | Neuro_Medivh | I mean, you 100% replace it? |
| 00:43.13 | Neuro_Medivh | you never seem to pass control back to the original function |
| 00:43.56 | Mike-N-Go | I don't know. |
| 00:44.02 | Neuro_Medivh | unless I'm reading this wrong |
| 00:44.06 | Mike-N-Go | I am new to all of this. |
| 00:44.51 | Mike-N-Go | What is !BugGrabber, do I need that one too? |
| 00:46.09 | Neuro_Medivh | Ok, I see how you're doing it... |
| 00:46.47 | Neuro_Medivh | what exactly is this addon supposed to do |
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| 00:55.45 | Mike-N-Go | YAY, my internet is broken again... |
| 00:55.54 | Mike-N-Go | port 80 stoped working again. |
| 00:56.16 | Inside | The internet is a tube. |
| 00:56.21 | Inside | port 80, a smaller tube of that |
| 00:56.26 | Inside | you must be clogging those tubes with porn |
| 00:57.40 | cladhaire | my tubes are full |
| 00:57.55 | Mike-N-Go | Humm, I remember ignoring you once, Inside... |
| 00:58.02 | Inside | Oh |
| 00:58.08 | Inside | I imagine I'm on many ignore list. |
| 00:58.09 | Inside | lists |
| 01:02.04 | MentalPower | lol |
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| 01:21.36 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, get rdy, my port 80 is broken, I will post directley! |
| 01:21.41 | Mike-N-Go | Hold on!!!!! |
| 01:22.19 | Mike-N-Go | Error occured while running hooks for: PickupContainerItem |
| 01:22.19 | Mike-N-Go | ....tergace\AddOns\AutoMailDirector\AutoMailDirector.lua: 50: attmpt to index |
| 01:22.19 | Mike-N-Go | field '?' (a string value) |
| 01:22.19 | Mike-N-Go | Call Chain: |
| 01:22.20 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.20 | Mike-N-Go | Interface\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:580: in function |
| 01:22.22 | Mike-N-Go | <Interface\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua:563 |
| 01:22.24 | Mike-N-Go | Interface\AddOns\CT_MailMod\CT_MailMod.lua23: in function |
| 01:22.26 | Mike-N-Go | 'CT_MM_ContainerFrameItemButton_OnClick' |
| 01:22.28 | Mike-N-Go | (tail call): ? |
| 01:22.30 | Mike-N-Go | [C]: in function 'pcall' |
| 01:22.32 | Mike-N-Go | Interface\AddOns\Stubby\Stubby.lua:291: in function |
| 01:22.34 | Mike-N-Go | <Interface\AddOnStubby\Stubby.lua:242> |
| 01:22.36 | Mike-N-Go | (tail call): ? |
| 01:22.38 | Mike-N-Go | [string "ContainerFrame1Item3:OnClick"]:7: in main chunk |
| 01:22.38 | MentalPower | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:22.40 | Mike-N-Go | I typed that all out.. |
| 01:22.44 | Shadowed | pasty |
| 01:23.11 | Mike-N-Go | Like I said, I am unable to access sites via web browser. |
| 01:23.15 | cladhaire | okay |
| 01:23.18 | cladhaire | well you can't paste them here |
| 01:23.19 | cladhaire | ever |
| 01:23.19 | cladhaire | please. |
| 01:24.09 | MentalPower | its not a game error |
| 01:24.24 | MentalPower | well, it is, but its intercepted by stubby |
| 01:24.49 | MentalPower | oops, disregard that, I was scrolled up |
| 01:25.10 | Mike-N-Go | If I could have accessed pasty, I would have posted it there. |
| 01:25.54 | cladhaire | yes |
| 01:26.11 | cladhaire | but frankly, the people int he channel don't care.. do it in PM's.. or something.. _anything_ |
| 01:26.43 | Mike-N-Go | I apologize, it won't happen again. |
| 01:26.48 | MentalPower | Mike-N-Go: that error will happen even when Auctioneer is disabled, are you sure that your OnLoad is being called? |
| 01:26.51 | cladhaire | that's all I ask =) |
| 01:27.32 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I will send Pm to everyone in room, next time, then. |
| 01:27.45 | cladhaire | okay, listen.. i'm not kidding, and you're not showing anything at all |
| 01:27.50 | cladhaire | i'm asking you and telling you the way the channel runs. |
| 01:27.53 | Mikma | do it all in once |
| 01:27.54 | cladhaire | you need to be appropriate. |
| 01:27.55 | cladhaire | period. |
| 01:28.06 | Mike-N-Go | It only happens when there are other addons then error |
| 01:28.14 | cladhaire | i wasn't rude, I simply asked. |
| 01:28.38 | Inside | bad cladhaire, no @ |
| 01:28.44 | Inside | >:( |
| 01:28.56 | Mikma | let the boy flood, he'll get klined fast heh |
| 01:28.59 | Inside | :D |
| 01:29.01 | cladhaire | no @? |
| 01:29.06 | cladhaire | i'll kline him, that's the point. |
| 01:29.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Mikma, it takes quote a bit more than that to get a server-based kline |
| 01:29.18 | Inside | I thought klines are at a server level? |
| 01:29.20 | cladhaire | i just wasn't going to say "don't do that again or i kickban you" |
| 01:29.22 | cladhaire | they are |
| 01:29.33 | cladhaire | i can't kline, but i can kickban. |
| 01:29.33 | Inside | ircop? |
| 01:29.35 | cladhaire | but we dont do that here. |
| 01:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | the IRC ops aren't needed here. |
| 01:30.07 | cladhaire | not when you have a rampaging asshole Cladhaire! |
| 01:30.14 | Mikma | purl: ~nuke everyone |
| 01:30.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:30.29 | Mikma | ~lart cladhaire |
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| 01:33.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, awesome |
| 01:34.05 | ScytheBlade1 | A repeatble "BOMB THE DEMONS" quest |
| 01:34.05 | cladhaire | was it red herring? |
| 01:34.24 | cladhaire | oh Tem was telling me about that |
| 01:34.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 01:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It's fun |
| 01:34.35 | cladhaire | How's it work? |
| 01:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | They give you a gryphon and infinite bombs |
| 01:34.39 | cladhaire | where is it, i wanna come play =) |
| 01:34.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Gryphon is on a set path |
| 01:34.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm on alliance atm (US) |
| 01:34.52 | cladhaire | hellfire? |
| 01:34.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Aye |
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| 01:35.01 | cladhaire | coming on clad |
| 01:35.04 | cladhaire | where do i need to go? =) |
| 01:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll show you |
| 01:35.45 | cladhaire | .. i logged into my priest.. and ended up as my druid, on a wyvern |
| 01:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, awesome. |
| 01:36.17 | Cide | Mike-N-Go_: seems like a savedvariables error again |
| 01:39.10 | Mike-N-Go_ | Oh, what do you know, my web browser is working now. |
| 01:40.11 | Kirkburn | I wish they incorporated Adapt into the normal WoW interface |
| 01:40.43 | Kirkburn | (Almost default animated player targets?) |
| 01:40.52 | Cide | Mike-N-Go_: it's the same error you had last night |
| 01:41.12 | Cide | Mike-N-Go_: do /script MailDirectorData = { }; ConsoleExec("reloadui") |
| 01:42.43 | Mike-N-Go_ | Done. |
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| 01:44.04 | Cide | does it work? |
| 01:44.58 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yup, no big 15 line error. |
| 01:47.58 | Mike-N-Go_ | Ok |
| 01:49.41 | Mike-N-Go_ | ~botsnack |
| 01:49.41 | purl | Mike-N-Go_: thanks |
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| 02:00.30 | Amadeo | hola |
| 02:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, poor cladhaire |
| 02:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Was almost Fel Reaver lunch |
| 02:06.29 | Maldivia | I liked the bear-model better :) |
| 02:10.21 | Mikma | beer-model |
| 02:12.37 | nevcairiel | did they change it back to a fel reaver now? |
| 02:12.47 | nevcairiel | havent been around much since the latest patch |
| 02:14.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it's a fel reaver |
| 02:14.43 | Inside | I want to be able to summon an incubus, damnit. |
| 02:15.13 | Inside | fuck succubus. |
| 02:15.45 | Amadeo | I don't think you'd be very intimidating with one |
| 02:15.49 | Amadeo | http://image.listen.com/img/356x237/8/8/2/2/592288_356x237.jpg |
| 02:20.52 | Maldivia | wowomg.com ... nope, that wasn't WoW related... |
| 02:20.59 | Maldivia | learn to not trust guild mates... |
| 02:21.19 | cladhaire | CRASH!!! |
| 02:21.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:21.34 | cladhaire | gonna move to the other room |
| 02:21.37 | cladhaire | more conducive to playing |
| 02:21.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Now all of the mobs are going to have spawned :P |
| 02:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll be a fun fight |
| 02:23.35 | Inside | POP QUIZ: Programmatically speaking, what is a first class object? |
| 02:23.56 | Maldivia | new First() ? :) |
| 02:25.15 | Amadeo | I love my Shaman, maybe it's just because I have some twinkish blues though |
| 02:25.32 | bljakk | well, basically classes you can use without any restrictions |
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| 02:33.01 | thezanke | will someone inform the maker of autoprofit that i cant live without it and he needs to make one for bc |
| 02:33.15 | Cide | you can do it |
| 02:33.47 | thezanke | eh, its harder to mess with someone elses code than my own imo |
| 02:34.28 | Cide | as in, you can inform the maker |
| 02:35.51 | thezanke | ah |
| 02:36.05 | thezanke | i just hope someone would know him |
| 02:52.10 | Maldivia | hmm, is there anyway to secure-hook a script-block? |
| 02:53.00 | Maldivia | script-block, as in OnEvent etc blocks |
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| 03:09.34 | Amadeo | hm |
| 03:09.46 | Amadeo | Vanguard is around 25GB installed I hear |
| 03:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 03:10.09 | Amadeo | That's huge |
| 03:20.18 | Kirkburn | Heh, this is fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkhdy6bavuk |
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| 03:22.08 | Amadeo | that guy rocks |
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| 03:28.53 | Amadeo | Kirkburn: Here's one for ya - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQRtuxdfQHw |
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| 03:30.58 | Warla | OMG FINALLY |
| 03:31.05 | Warla | i got my sword :-)))) |
| 03:31.09 | Warla | took me friggin 6 months |
| 03:31.40 | Warla | i sacrificed wave after wave of guidies til eranikus went down and now i got "Runesword of the Red" :-))) |
| 03:34.58 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21521 |
| 03:35.12 | Industrial | Reward from the AQ scepter quest chain. |
| 03:35.39 | Kirkburn | wooo |
| 03:36.35 | Industrial | http://wow.allakhazam.com/images/fashion/runeswordofthered.jpg |
| 03:38.32 | Esamynn|raiding | nice |
| 03:38.35 | Industrial | ew ew ew one in that last clip said american spirir |
| 03:38.40 | Industrial | close, next |
| 03:38.44 | Industrial | spirit, even |
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| 03:52.43 | Warla | yea |
| 03:52.51 | Warla | took a while to complete the damn questine |
| 03:59.13 | Industrial | Sorry if im going to hurt ppl but I need to vent |
| 03:59.15 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4927177132680635888&q=muay+thai |
| 03:59.20 | Industrial | just bumped into that |
| 03:59.35 | Industrial | prime example of how american ppl see themselves as being better |
| 03:59.50 | Industrial | listen to the comments |
| 03:59.54 | Industrial | rediculous. |
| 04:02.48 | Industrial | <-- anti nationalism. |
| 04:04.01 | Amadeo | that looks like an old video |
| 04:05.26 | Industrial | oh and btw the dude get wtfpwned anyway by the thai |
| 04:05.44 | Amadeo | haha |
| 04:06.04 | Amadeo | I think it's just a case of not understanding other people and cultures, I'm sure everyone is guilty of it at times |
| 04:06.14 | Amadeo | Especially when they're fighting in Las Vegas |
| 04:06.20 | Industrial | they are giving the thai 3 faults |
| 04:06.26 | Industrial | and knockdowns when they were sweeps |
| 04:06.38 | Industrial | the american sweeps when they were knockdowns etc |
| 04:07.00 | Amadeo | there's some american kid who beats everyone now |
| 04:07.05 | Amadeo | but he's such a cocky bitch, I can't stand him |
| 04:07.09 | Industrial | First lesson kickboxing i got: "dont block low kicks with your hands" and that guy does ti all the time :P |
| 04:07.43 | Industrial | your lower arms are never strong enough to blick a kick.. |
| 04:07.51 | Industrial | logic and stuff :p |
| 04:08.10 | Amadeo | haha yeah |
| 04:08.25 | Amadeo | gotta run! |
| 04:08.43 | Tuller | http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9528/vbanknonnr6.jpg hurray for a working bank window again |
| 04:09.12 | Industrial | Tuller: what addon |
| 04:09.18 | Tuller | new bagnon |
| 04:09.23 | Industrial | u serious? |
| 04:09.29 | Industrial | :O |
| 04:09.34 | Industrial | is it up on wowi? |
| 04:09.45 | Tuller | it doesn't have a real UI yet :) |
| 04:09.51 | Industrial | aw |
| 04:09.59 | Industrial | are you using PeriodicTable? :D |
| 04:10.34 | Tuller | it could, but it doesn't right now |
| 04:10.52 | Industrial | k |
| 04:15.19 | Industrial | well nice man |
| 04:15.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 04:17.59 | Tuller | thanks :) |
| 04:18.06 | Tuller | the real important part is it goes fast :) |
| 04:19.14 | Tuller | but that's probably because i don't actually sort your inventory, i just group stuff |
| 04:22.00 | Industrial | does it stack items tho? |
| 04:22.17 | Industrial | cause ... why sort _real_ anyway |
| 04:22.29 | Industrial | :-) |
| 04:24.14 | Tuller | I've just been using mr plow every now and then |
| 04:25.20 | haste | MrPlow is nice :) |
| 04:25.36 | haste | especially for me who likes the default bags |
| 04:29.40 | Tuller | so yeah a function for using periodic table's sets would be rule = function(itemLink) return ItemInSet(itemLink, set) end |
| 04:30.24 | Tuller | or whatever the syntax for periodic table is |
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| 04:33.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:34.08 | Industrial | lo ck |
| 04:34.37 | Industrial | Tuller: having the power to mix and match sets and create new ones > * |
| 04:34.46 | Industrial | cause everyone would like it differently ;) |
| 04:35.02 | Industrial | eg armor/weapons based on durability |
| 04:35.12 | Industrial | or per set |
| 04:35.14 | Industrial | or w/e |
| 04:35.32 | Industrial | anyway 05:35 nn |
| 04:37.03 | Tuller | I'd have to add a refresh button to detect durability or somethingish |
| 04:37.16 | Tuller | as in, I was thinking too hard |
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| 05:03.22 | mjc | someone broke search :p |
| 05:05.34 | Guillotine | is there a command to dismiss your pet in BC? |
| 05:10.34 | Warla | new sprint ability for rogues in BC : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6035121170646340376 |
| 05:11.42 | mjc | Warla: haha |
| 05:12.02 | Warla | :-) |
| 05:27.44 | Crispix | holy crap O_O |
| 05:27.52 | Guillotine | lol |
| 05:27.53 | Crispix | I just got back from a movie everyone must see |
| 05:28.05 | Crispix | (and no.. it's not Borat).. Stranger Than Fiction :D |
| 05:34.42 | ckknight | everyone should see Borat. |
| 05:39.11 | Guillotine | I want to see both of those |
| 05:39.34 | Crispix | I loved Stranger Than Fiction more than Borat |
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| 05:42.09 | Mike-N-Go_ | ~botsnack |
| 05:42.09 | purl | Mike-N-Go_: thanks |
| 05:43.18 | Neuro_Medivh | warlocks: what are your first three opening spells you cast on a mob? |
| 05:44.06 | Neuro_Medivh | bah, guess I'll check thottbot |
| 05:59.36 | Neuro_Medivh | GOD DAMMIT |
| 05:59.50 | Neuro_Medivh | the forum timed me out and I lost a huge post |
| 06:00.20 | Crispix | http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/11/wii-setup-and-interface-walkthrough-video/ :O! |
| 06:01.01 | Neuro_Medivh | I can't believe I lost that whole post |
| 06:08.07 | ckknight_ | you know why that happened, Neuro_Medivh? |
| 06:08.12 | ckknight_ | cause you touch yourself at night. |
| 06:08.16 | ckknight_ | mmhmm. |
| 06:12.20 | Neuro_Medivh | if that were true, I'd *never* be able to post |
| 06:14.06 | bljakk | at night at least |
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| 06:23.38 | Kaligar | movie? |
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| 06:30.01 | iamhef | does anyone here play on Draka? (i mean actually *play* not just do ui dev) |
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| 06:55.51 | Guillotine | g2g all, gn :) |
| 06:56.42 | iamhef | good night |
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| 07:03.50 | Mike-N-Go_ | Anyone know how to write Chinese in english? |
| 07:04.09 | iamhef | ni hao |
| 07:04.27 | Mike-N-Go_ | Because I have a guildie who I can't understand, lol. |
| 07:04.27 | ckknight_ | you mean transliterated Chinese, Mike-N-Go_ |
| 07:04.35 | Mike-N-Go_ | IDK |
| 07:04.39 | iamhef | i'm guessing so |
| 07:05.21 | iamhef | i can do a little japanese: watashi wa nihongo ho hanashimasu |
| 07:05.26 | Mike-N-Go_ | What does "swwww" and "en" mean? |
| 07:05.58 | Mike-N-Go_ | "i wg" |
| 07:06.00 | iamhef | you got me... no idea |
| 07:06.10 | iamhef | i don't think it's chinese tho |
| 07:06.17 | iamhef | they have vowels... and stuff ;) |
| 07:06.19 | Mike-N-Go_ | I invited him to our guild, lol. |
| 07:06.38 | Mike-N-Go_ | Well, I thought that is what we figured out he was, lol. |
| 07:06.42 | iamhef | mike: by any chance are you on Draka? |
| 07:08.17 | Mike-N-Go_ | Nope. |
| 07:08.31 | Mike-N-Go_ | Agernot Dawn-Horde-US |
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| 07:08.45 | Mike-N-Go_ | Argent* |
| 07:11.57 | iamhef | oh ok |
| 07:12.19 | iamhef | anyone here play on a normal guild on Draka? |
| 07:12.26 | iamhef | *in a normal guild |
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| 07:31.11 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know if it's possible to 'rotate' a texture? |
| 07:31.13 | GremWarsong | Or picture |
| 07:31.49 | Neuro_Medivh | I do not believe so |
| 07:32.17 | Neuro_Medivh | not in-game anyway |
| 07:32.21 | GremWarsong | Is there a way to draw a line from one point to another? |
| 07:32.33 | ckknight | yes, you can, GremWarsong |
| 07:32.43 | ckknight | see the wiki |
| 07:32.46 | GremWarsong | Awesome, how do I draw a line? =) |
| 07:32.50 | GremWarsong | Browsing it now |
| 07:33.02 | GremWarsong | What kind of object would I use? |
| 07:33.55 | ckknight | ah, Iriel came up with an algorithm |
| 07:34.27 | GremWarsong | Well I cant imagine what type of object would have to be used |
| 07:35.16 | GremWarsong | Please dont say 'tons and tons of little 1 pixel frames' |
| 07:35.47 | GremWarsong | Oh, you use an algorithm to draw a thin frame im betting... |
| 07:35.59 | Tem | you use a texture |
| 07:36.01 | Tem | and skew it |
| 07:36.03 | GremWarsong | Hmm |
| 07:37.35 | GremWarsong | Ahh, so you can rotate a texture? |
| 07:37.36 | Tem | it's all on the wiki |
| 07:37.39 | Tem | yes |
| 07:37.42 | GremWarsong | http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations ? |
| 07:37.49 | Tem | yep, that's the article |
| 07:37.56 | GremWarsong | It looks horrifying =) |
| 07:39.55 | GremWarsong | Thanks for the tip guys =) |
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| 07:43.36 | GremWarsong | What's the easiest format to convert to .blp? =) |
| 07:44.56 | Neuro_Medivh | you mean .bmp? |
| 07:45.14 | GremWarsong | I think WoW uses a .blp image format |
| 07:45.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It does |
| 07:45.52 | Neuro_Medivh | ahh, I have no idea, graphical formats are way outside my balliwick |
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| 07:50.09 | Tem | you don't need to convert to blp |
| 07:50.15 | Tem | targa works fine |
| 07:50.59 | GremWarsong | Really? Cool |
| 07:51.24 | Tem | yeah |
| 07:51.36 | Tem | I've attempted to convert back once with bad results |
| 07:51.49 | Tem | so all the textures I've ever used were targas |
| 07:54.48 | GremWarsong | Targa is TGA right? |
| 07:54.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 07:55.02 | GremWarsong | Okay |
| 07:57.16 | Tem | ok, my eyelids won't stay open |
| 07:57.17 | Tem | night guys |
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| 07:59.23 | GremWarsong | Is 8x8 a valid texture size? |
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| 08:10.55 | grimman|afkish | Should be. |
| 08:11.39 | grimman|afkish | But then again, the upper limit for texture size is 512x512 afaik, so there might be a lower limit too. |
| 08:12.02 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: 4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512 |
| 08:12.03 | Thunder_Child | Kaso: 16x16 32x32 etc |
| 08:14.05 | GremWarsong | Ive had so many billions of problems converting textures to a format that WoW understands |
| 08:14.08 | GremWarsong | Does anyone have any tips? |
| 08:14.41 | grimman|afkish | Uh... 32-bit TGA with proper dimensions? :P |
| 08:14.44 | Thunder_Child | thr: hmm, if i wanna use a custom texture in wow |
| 08:14.44 | Thunder_Child | thr: does it have to be in any special format? |
| 08:14.44 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: tga |
| 08:14.44 | Thunder_Child | thr: ok |
| 08:14.44 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: power of 2 resolution |
| 08:14.44 | Thunder_Child | malreth: or blp... but tga is easier |
| 08:14.46 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: and power of 2 |
| 08:14.48 | Thunder_Child | malreth: 32 bpp |
| 08:14.50 | Thunder_Child | : Tsikura has signed off IRC (Connection timed out). |
| 08:14.52 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: 32bpp isn't necessary |
| 08:14.54 | Thunder_Child | thr: power of 2 res? o:O |
| 08:14.56 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: 4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512 |
| 08:14.58 | Thunder_Child | Kaso: 16x16 32x32 etc |
| 08:15.00 | Thunder_Child | thr: ah |
| 08:15.02 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: for width/hight |
| 08:15.04 | Thunder_Child | malreth: oh? then 8 bit per channel optional alpha |
| 08:15.06 | Thunder_Child | malreth: Kaso: 32x64 would also be acceptable |
| 08:15.08 | Thunder_Child | Kaso: really? i could of swarn they had to be square |
| 08:15.10 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: nope |
| 08:16.39 | Corrodias | whooooooo |
| 08:16.40 | Corrodias | ooo |
| 08:16.42 | Corrodias | i'm drunks |
| 08:17.10 | iamhef | no your not, otherwise you'd have said "i'm drunksh" |
| 08:17.13 | Corrodias | return. let me tell you about return. you return things, but the professor says, "dont' return more than once in a function" |
| 08:17.13 | iamhef | ;) |
| 08:17.53 | grimman|afkish | iamhef: you're* |
| 08:17.54 | grimman|afkish | :P |
| 08:17.58 | Corrodias | and i'm all, "i'll return your mother, to the brothel". and i wonder why they get upset. |
| 08:18.17 | Corrodias | it's all in my head anyway |
| 08:18.54 | iamhef | aye that one |
| 08:18.59 | iamhef | :) |
| 08:19.13 | Corrodias | di you ever notice how, when you wear glasses, you get an image above and an image within? that's kinda cool |
| 08:19.58 | Corrodias | testures don't have to be square, but their dimensions probably have to be a power of 2, and they probably can't be over a certain size |
| 08:20.15 | Corrodias | i say this because one of the addons i use stopped working in 1.12 because one texture was too large in one dimension |
| 08:20.16 | Thunder_Child | 512 |
| 08:20.46 | grimman|afkish | Afaik the max size has always been 512. |
| 08:20.49 | Corrodias | the game would just completely ignore any attempt to load the texture. it just wouldn't do anything. |
| 08:20.59 | Corrodias | the addon used a texture with one side 1024, and it worked before 1.12 |
| 08:21.24 | grimman|afkish | Weird. I know I tried using textures that large before 1.12 and that didn't work. |
| 08:21.39 | Corrodias | well, the other dimension was like 12 |
| 08:21.44 | Corrodias | or 16, i suppose |
| 08:22.04 | Corrodias | i can't say why it worked, but it did. BasicExperienceBar, if you want to check on it. |
| 08:22.47 | grimman|afkish | Meh. |
| 08:22.50 | grimman|afkish | I'll pass. |
| 08:23.01 | grimman|afkish | Got some mobs to shoot. |
| 08:25.03 | Corrodias | one blonde russian just so screws me up. |
| 08:26.13 | GremWarsong | Err, that texture rotating isnt working correctly =/ |
| 08:26.23 | GremWarsong | It turns, but it gets major deformed if it's turned too much |
| 08:26.45 | GremWarsong | Unless im doing something horribly wrong |
| 08:30.08 | Corrodias | my teeth are numb |
| 08:30.42 | GremWarsong | http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations (The algorithm at the very bottom of the page, how can it be modified to render a 270 degree rotation?) |
| 08:30.54 | Corrodias | and i seem to be wearing a boatswain's whistle around my neck |
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| 08:32.33 | GremWarsong | That formula only works to flip the texture, does anyone know how you'd go about making a universal function that rotates it by any degree? |
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| 08:40.10 | Corrodias | say you will, say you won't, make up your mind tonight |
| 08:40.16 | Corrodias | say you will, say you won't, be my guiding light |
| 08:42.04 | iamhef | corrodias: blonde russian? is that the same as a white russian? |
| 08:42.19 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 08:42.19 | iamhef | i've heard of many variations, but never blonde |
| 08:42.22 | Corrodias | similar, but with the cream/milk replaced with irish creme (which also has alcohol) |
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| 08:43.05 | iamhef | oh yeah... i've heard those called something different |
| 08:43.19 | Corrodias | bolshevik, perhaps. wikipedia lists several variations. |
| 08:43.38 | iamhef | yeah that was it |
| 08:43.51 | Corrodias | i was numbing before half of it. |
| 08:46.55 | Corrodias | it was just marvellous stuff, let me tell you |
| 08:47.12 | Corrodias | that and woodchuck cider. omg. |
| 08:47.23 | iamhef | woodchuck cider? |
| 08:47.27 | iamhef | never tried it |
| 08:47.39 | iamhef | i'm particular to everclear punch ;) |
| 08:52.16 | GremWarsong | Okay, it looks like the algorithm at http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations causes the image to rotate around it's corner, rather than it's center |
| 08:52.28 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know how to modify the code to make the image rotate around it's center rather than corner? |
| 08:52.50 | iamhef | i don't think it works that way |
| 08:53.08 | iamhef | matrix transforms are different like that |
| 08:53.22 | iamhef | you rotate then transpose tho |
| 08:53.41 | Neuro_Medivh | are you wanting to dynamically rotate? |
| 08:53.54 | GremWarsong | I want it to rotate with it's center as the axis |
| 08:53.58 | GremWarsong | rather than it's corner as the axis |
| 08:54.27 | Neuro_Medivh | which corner? |
| 08:54.45 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm guessing bottom left? |
| 08:55.23 | GremWarsong | something like that, heh |
| 08:55.33 | GremWarsong | Im horrible with images |
| 08:56.48 | GremWarsong | I think i need to translate it's coordinates somehow |
| 08:58.13 | iamhef | aye, that's the word i was looking for (it's late :P) |
| 08:58.31 | GremWarsong | But how do I know where it needs to be moved to? |
| 08:58.49 | iamhef | i have to think about this a sec... |
| 09:00.17 | iamhef | does the height and width of the image "box" remain the same after the rotation? |
| 09:00.28 | GremWarsong | Yes |
| 09:00.56 | iamhef | can you just recenter the box then? |
| 09:01.08 | iamhef | or does the box remain in place while the texture is rotated? |
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| 09:01.43 | GremWarsong | Uhm, the box remains in place, and the texture rotates (disappearing for 270 degrees of it) |
| 09:01.50 | iamhef | gotcha |
| 09:05.12 | GremWarsong | Looks like it distorts and vanishes for most of the rotation |
| 09:05.33 | iamhef | why vanishes? |
| 09:05.42 | iamhef | b/c the texture is outside the box? |
| 09:05.44 | GremWarsong | Because it moves out of the box |
| 09:05.52 | iamhef | gotcha |
| 09:07.09 | iamhef | what angle of rotation are you using? maybe there's an easier way than a general formula... |
| 09:07.56 | iamhef | you mentioned 270... is that what you're using? |
| 09:07.59 | GremWarsong | I want to be able to rotate in any angle |
| 09:08.04 | iamhef | oh ok |
| 09:08.09 | GremWarsong | Basically, im making an image that I want to rotate |
| 09:08.11 | GremWarsong | Like an animation |
| 09:08.13 | GremWarsong | Like a fan |
| 09:08.16 | iamhef | oh i see |
| 09:10.40 | GremWarsong | But the fan doesnt 'spin' it just rotates around itself |
| 09:13.04 | iamhef | ok i got it... in a round about way |
| 09:13.11 | GremWarsong | Really? wow |
| 09:13.24 | iamhef | you'll have to do some polar to cartesian coord conversion |
| 09:13.35 | GremWarsong | I have no idea what that means =) |
| 09:13.42 | iamhef | and transthing (can't think of the word again) based on that |
| 09:13.53 | iamhef | you know polar coords? |
| 09:13.57 | GremWarsong | no |
| 09:14.09 | iamhef | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_coords |
| 09:14.16 | iamhef | basically it's another way of listing coords |
| 09:14.23 | GremWarsong | Oh, yeah |
| 09:14.29 | iamhef | instead of x and y you use a length and an angle |
| 09:14.58 | iamhef | so you know the original position of the center in cartesian, then convert that to polar |
| 09:15.17 | iamhef | actually nix that |
| 09:15.18 | GremWarsong | err? |
| 09:15.23 | GremWarsong | =/ |
| 09:15.37 | iamhef | after the rotation you know the position of the center in polar coords |
| 09:15.53 | iamhef | convert those to cartesian a reposition to the original center... |
| 09:16.02 | iamhef | sorry i'm talking this thru as i figure it out :P |
| 09:16.21 | GremWarsong | Not a problem, but unfortunately I dont understand much of that =( |
| 09:16.57 | iamhef | s'alright |
| 09:17.33 | iamhef | i wish i could draw a picture... i'm better exlpaining with pictures lol |
| 09:17.51 | GremWarsong | Do you know how I can modify that algorithm on the wiki to do what you said? |
| 09:18.00 | iamhef | i'm thinking... |
| 09:19.22 | End | you went to spin around the center, yes? |
| 09:19.27 | End | s/went/want/ |
| 09:19.43 | GremWarsong | Right |
| 09:20.02 | GremWarsong | Like a fan spinning |
| 09:20.35 | End | check out a little test addon Iriel wrote a while back: http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/TextureSpinTest-0.1-10900.zip |
| 09:21.11 | End | also! |
| 09:21.17 | End | your edges -need- to be transparent |
| 09:21.34 | End | or else you'll get...badness |
| 09:21.42 | iamhef | wow... is that all there is to it? |
| 09:21.50 | End | (it'll "smear" the outer pixels) |
| 09:21.50 | End | yes |
| 09:22.01 | iamhef | wow, now i feel really dumb |
| 09:22.19 | End | it's a very simple example :P |
| 09:24.37 | GremWarsong | Checking it out... |
| 09:25.05 | iamhef | i wonder if it's that simple tho b/c he's sticking with a 45 degree rotation angle |
| 09:25.47 | End | it's not sticking to 45 degrees |
| 09:25.52 | End | it's shifted by 45 |
| 09:26.16 | iamhef | that's what i mean, it's rotated each update by 45 degrees |
| 09:26.22 | End | no |
| 09:26.31 | iamhef | no? |
| 09:26.41 | End | it's rotated based on how much time has passed |
| 09:26.43 | iamhef | ok... lemme take a look |
| 09:26.47 | End | that way it'll rotate smoothly |
| 09:26.55 | iamhef | hmm ok |
| 09:27.59 | GremWarsong | Hey, that's exactly what I need I think =) |
| 09:28.43 | iamhef | i would agree :) |
| 09:29.05 | GremWarsong | Thanks a bunch, now to figure out how to implement it ;-) |
| 09:29.26 | End | np |
| 09:29.41 | End | (remember to thank Iriel, he wrote it, not me!) |
| 09:30.09 | GremWarsong | I need to rotate based on my character's heading rather than by time passed though |
| 09:30.15 | GremWarsong | err |
| 09:30.19 | GremWarsong | not character heading |
| 09:30.33 | End | writing some sort of compass? |
| 09:30.39 | GremWarsong | For a minigame |
| 09:30.43 | End | ah |
| 09:31.01 | GremWarsong | I need to be able to just input an angle and have it rotate to that angle |
| 09:32.29 | GremWarsong | Yay, think I got it ) |
| 09:33.13 | GremWarsong | Err, well it seems to rotate too many times based on the angle I give it |
| 09:33.13 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 09:37.35 | GremWarsong | The first two lines of the example I need to change somehow, since it's not based on time |
| 09:37.48 | GremWarsong | Do I need to determine it's current angle before calculating how to draw it's new angle? |
| 09:38.40 | End | I think you'd only have to change the first line |
| 09:38.50 | End | which is just where it sets this.angle |
| 09:39.36 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 09:41.53 | GremWarsong | It seems to rotate full every 30 degrees or so |
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| 09:43.22 | iamhef | actually 90 |
| 09:43.26 | iamhef | for 30 |
| 09:43.36 | iamhef | i mean it doesn't rotate full, it rotates 90 |
| 09:43.53 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 09:44.05 | iamhef | and it's not a perfect 90 =\ |
| 09:44.06 | GremWarsong | Why is it doing that? |
| 09:44.37 | iamhef | dunno... i'm playing :P |
| 09:44.45 | GremWarsong | =/ |
| 09:45.04 | GremWarsong | I will pay 10$ PayPal to whoever here can get this working for me =P |
| 09:46.22 | iamhef | lol |
| 09:46.56 | GremWarsong | I seriously need this done, ive been stuck on it for like 4 hours and cant standing thinking about it any longer |
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| 09:49.34 | Thunder_Child | go to something else then come back to it, might clear your mind |
| 09:49.57 | GremWarsong | I have a one track mind =) |
| 09:50.14 | GremWarsong | Okay, I have it working right, but it's only showing a corner of the image...the image isnt centered in the box |
| 09:50.14 | Thunder_Child | well it looks like it has been derailed.... |
| 09:51.02 | GremWarsong | Which arguments in SetTexCoord would move the image 'up/left' ? |
| 09:53.00 | iamhef | grem: i think i know why it was being screwy |
| 09:53.55 | GremWarsong | Im using the first version I was using, and almost have it |
| 09:54.02 | GremWarsong | It's rotating correctly, but I can only see a corner of it |
| 09:54.26 | iamhef | ok |
| 09:55.11 | GremWarsong | It's a box, and I can see a portion of the object rotating correctly in the bottom right corner of the box |
| 09:55.30 | iamhef | well try this: |
| 09:55.31 | iamhef | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:55.31 | iamhef | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:55.38 | iamhef | as the first to lines of Iriel's script |
| 09:55.41 | iamhef | *two lines |
| 09:56.00 | iamhef | that'll work |
| 09:56.21 | GremWarsong | Okay let me go back to that one |
| 09:57.57 | GremWarsong | That didnt work |
| 09:58.04 | GremWarsong | It just keeps spinning, because it's adding to the angle forever |
| 09:58.26 | iamhef | well yeah lol, you gotta take it out of the update function |
| 09:58.33 | GremWarsong | It's not in the update function |
| 09:59.06 | iamhef | what do you mean it just keeps spinning? |
| 09:59.10 | GremWarsong | I think I need to subtract it's current angle from the new angle to find the difference |
| 09:59.19 | GremWarsong | It keeps spinning because im simple adding angles onto it... |
| 09:59.31 | GremWarsong | Look at your code, im just adding angleofrotation onto it's old angle, causing it to spin |
| 09:59.45 | iamhef | well yuo can always mod by 360, but that shouldn't matter the math.rad() call should take care of it |
| 10:00.09 | GremWarsong | eh...no |
| 10:00.31 | iamhef | maybe i'm misunderstanding what you're doing... how are you using the rotation? |
| 10:00.43 | iamhef | are you just specifying how much you want to rotate by? |
| 10:00.56 | GremWarsong | It changes based on the mouse location |
| 10:00.57 | iamhef | cuz that's what i'm doing in those to lines |
| 10:01.05 | GremWarsong | no |
| 10:01.10 | GremWarsong | I want to set it to different angles |
| 10:01.17 | GremWarsong | not 'add' to its rotation |
| 10:01.46 | iamhef | ok then take out the += part of it |
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| 10:02.44 | GremWarsong | Omg, it works! =D |
| 10:02.57 | GremWarsong | Praise the lord |
| 10:03.12 | Thunder_Child | iamhef == "the lord" |
| 10:03.21 | GremWarsong | You are my hero iamhef =) |
| 10:03.28 | GremWarsong | Lets go make a baby now |
| 10:03.42 | iamhef | ah and add 45 |
| 10:03.44 | iamhef | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.44 | iamhef | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.48 | GremWarsong | Why? |
| 10:03.57 | iamhef | well if you want an exact rotation |
| 10:04.07 | iamhef | i dunno i'd have to brush up on my math again |
| 10:05.29 | iamhef | try that out... does it work? it seems to work with iriel's example for me |
| 10:05.36 | GremWarsong | Sec |
| 10:06.56 | GremWarsong | Hmmm, sorta kinda |
| 10:07.20 | GremWarsong | It looks a bit misshaped |
| 10:10.03 | GremWarsong | Im sure that's as to be expected though |
| 10:10.05 | iamhef | ok you know what that 45 was wrong... |
| 10:10.12 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 10:10.20 | iamhef | lol try -225 |
| 10:10.28 | GremWarsong | really? |
| 10:10.29 | iamhef | that should be a perfect rotation |
| 10:10.31 | iamhef | yeah |
| 10:11.17 | GremWarsong | nah, looks very messedu p |
| 10:11.26 | iamhef | keep in mind that the angle is counter clockwise! |
| 10:12.28 | iamhef | hmm well it seems to work fine for me in Iriel's code |
| 10:13.15 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 10:14.52 | Laric | anyone tried to use the event ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED yet? Doesnt seem to work |
| 10:17.41 | iamhef | btw this: |
| 10:17.41 | iamhef | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.41 | iamhef | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:17.41 | iamhef | does the rotation clockwise |
| 10:19.04 | GremWarsong | gotcha |
| 10:20.04 | GremWarsong | Im messing with the image to see if I can make it look right |
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| 10:23.54 | GremWarsong | Hrmm |
| 10:23.58 | GremWarsong | It still doesnt look right =/ |
| 10:24.10 | GremWarsong | It looks stretched on certain angles |
| 10:24.44 | iamhef | stretched? |
| 10:24.53 | GremWarsong | Yeah, it looks longer sometimes |
| 10:25.16 | iamhef | what's your anchor set for the frame? |
| 10:25.37 | GremWarsong | center I believe |
| 10:25.40 | GremWarsong | let me try a different image |
| 10:25.48 | iamhef | ok |
| 10:26.39 | GremWarsong | Yeah that's better, the image was just unbalanced |
| 10:26.42 | GremWarsong | Looks great now |
| 10:26.45 | GremWarsong | Thanks a million |
| 10:28.45 | iamhef | np :) |
| 10:28.53 | iamhef | i had fun :-D |
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| 10:29.39 | GremWarsong | =) |
| 10:30.09 | GremWarsong | How do I shift it by 90 degrees? Like say I want it to be relative to another angle |
| 10:30.31 | iamhef | how do you mean? |
| 10:30.55 | GremWarsong | As in, I want it to start facing left, and I want it to be 90 degrees relative to that direction, etc |
| 10:31.30 | iamhef | this is an arrow you're talking about? |
| 10:31.33 | GremWarsong | Yes |
| 10:31.45 | iamhef | which direction is the arrow pointing in the image? |
| 10:31.48 | iamhef | original image i mean |
| 10:31.52 | GremWarsong | up |
| 10:31.55 | GremWarsong | up = 0 |
| 10:33.01 | iamhef | try changing the first line to: |
| 10:33.01 | iamhef | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.07 | GremWarsong | ah |
| 10:33.08 | GremWarsong | gotcha |
| 10:33.09 | GremWarsong | duh |
| 10:33.13 | GremWarsong | I am so braindead today |
| 10:33.32 | GremWarsong | Thanks |
| 10:33.36 | iamhef | did that work? |
| 10:33.49 | iamhef | maybe i should have added the 90... i'm tired too ;) |
| 10:34.14 | GremWarsong | It works |
| 10:34.21 | iamhef | :D |
| 10:34.26 | GremWarsong | Now it makes sense |
| 10:34.31 | GremWarsong | I was wondering why you were subtracting twice |
| 10:34.31 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 10:35.33 | iamhef | so what's this minigame about anyways? |
| 10:35.49 | GremWarsong | Thinking about making a multiplayer first person shooter overhead game |
| 10:36.06 | GremWarsong | You control a little arrow on a blackboard and you run around shooting people that are in the game with you |
| 10:36.08 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 10:36.32 | iamhef | lol nifty |
| 10:36.58 | GremWarsong | Now I can display heading |
| 10:38.28 | iamhef | you know... the more i think about it that's a pretty cool idea for a minigame |
| 10:38.57 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 10:39.00 | iamhef | and as long as you stick to linear paths for projectiles it'd be easy to do with addOn based chat |
| 10:39.08 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 10:39.23 | iamhef | the only problem would be drawing the projectiles if you have too many of them |
| 10:39.49 | GremWarsong | Maybe |
| 10:40.31 | GremWarsong | How do I reverse the direction the arrow is spinning based on my heading? lol |
| 10:40.46 | GremWarsong | Its spinning in the wrong direction |
| 10:42.44 | iamhef | huh? |
| 10:43.04 | iamhef | what direction is it spinning and what direction do you want? |
| 10:43.36 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 10:44.16 | GremWarsong | as heading increases, it goes counterclockwise |
| 10:44.23 | GremWarsong | I want it to go clockwise as heading increases |
| 10:44.31 | GremWarsong | So from 0 to 90 should make it spin clockwise |
| 10:45.20 | iamhef | hmm i thought i was making it spin clockwise... |
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| 10:45.42 | GremWarsong | well, how do you reverse it? |
| 10:46.13 | iamhef | instead of "360 - angleOfRotation" just use "angleOfRotation" |
| 10:46.26 | GremWarsong | ah |
| 10:46.45 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 10:46.56 | iamhef | so angleOfRotation - 315 maybe... |
| 10:47.06 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 10:47.13 | GremWarsong | Damn you are good =) |
| 10:47.18 | iamhef | =D |
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| 10:48.04 | GremWarsong | Got it perfect now =) =) |
| 10:48.44 | iamhef | sweet |
| 10:48.56 | iamhef | when you gonna publish a beta? ;) |
| 10:49.28 | GremWarsong | Who knows =/ |
| 10:50.14 | iamhef | well you should at least publish an alpha... let people see how it works :) |
| 10:50.23 | GremWarsong | Hehe |
| 10:51.26 | GremWarsong | hardest part will be reliable tracking |
| 10:51.43 | iamhef | tracking? of other players? |
| 10:51.48 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 10:51.55 | GremWarsong | For now, im just going to make mobs to shoot |
| 10:52.00 | GremWarsong | going to make it single player at first |
| 10:52.28 | iamhef | not a bad idea |
| 10:52.38 | iamhef | it is better to break things down to smaller steps |
| 10:52.43 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 10:55.14 | iamhef | grem: do you play on Draka by any chance? |
| 10:55.39 | GremWarsong | no |
| 10:55.47 | iamhef | *sigh* |
| 10:56.02 | iamhef | i guess no one here actually does play on Draka... |
| 10:56.10 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 11:00.17 | Mike-N-Go_ | Can anyone help me? |
| 11:00.26 | Mike-N-Go_ | I have a error. |
| 11:00.33 | iamhef | what ya got? |
| 11:01.06 | Mike-N-Go_ | It goes away when I do --/script MailDirectorData = { }; ConsoleExec("reloadui") |
| 11:01.31 | iamhef | ermmm ok |
| 11:01.53 | iamhef | gimme some background :) |
| 11:02.11 | Mike-N-Go_ | http://pastey.net/2367 line 50: attmpt to index |
| 11:02.12 | Mike-N-Go_ | field '?' (a string value) |
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| 11:04.00 | Mike-N-Go_ | This is my first addon, so I have little clue on how this all works. |
| 11:04.04 | iamhef | well i'm guessing MailDirectorData or MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction] is a string or becomes a string at some point |
| 11:04.29 | iamhef | try type(MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction]) and type(MailDirectorData) |
| 11:04.33 | Mike-N-Go_ | lines 15-30ish, probley. |
| 11:04.46 | Mike-N-Go_ | Wich lines? |
| 11:05.28 | iamhef | stick it on line 49 |
| 11:05.47 | iamhef | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(type(MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction])) |
| 11:05.51 | iamhef | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(type(MailDirectorData)) |
| 11:05.57 | iamhef | add those 2 before line 50 |
| 11:05.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | OK |
| 11:06.03 | Mike-N-Go_ | Thanks. |
| 11:06.11 | iamhef | np... let's see what happens ;) |
| 11:06.58 | Mike-N-Go_ | What about itemType = string.lower(itemType) that is a string, is that the problem? |
| 11:07.26 | Teomyr | probably not |
| 11:07.46 | iamhef | no that should be fine |
| 11:07.48 | Teomyr | the problem may be that MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction] is a string, not a table |
| 11:08.17 | iamhef | Teomyr: how did you determine that? |
| 11:08.39 | Mike-N-Go_ | Both are talbes. |
| 11:09.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | This has happened a few times before, and I have to delete the SV for AMD |
| 11:09.51 | Teomyr | iamhef: attempt to index field '?' (a string value) - the script probably tried to index MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction], but got a string value instead of the expected table |
| 11:09.54 | iamhef | delete the saved variables? |
| 11:10.25 | iamhef | Teomyr: well that's what i was thinking but looking over the code it looks like he makes them tables... that's why i suggested trying out type() :) |
| 11:10.28 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yes. |
| 11:10.45 | iamhef | i wonder if WoW is serializing the SV's incorrectly.... |
| 11:11.00 | iamhef | what does the SV file have in it? |
| 11:11.24 | Teomyr | how about changing line 25 to "if type(MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction]) ~= 'table' then" |
| 11:12.28 | iamhef | you could try that... but if it says they're tables before it errors ... =\ |
| 11:12.41 | iamhef | . |
| 11:12.42 | Teomyr | oh |
| 11:12.44 | iamhef | woops |
| 11:12.49 | iamhef | ignore the "." lol |
| 11:12.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | Is an example http://pastey.net/2371 |
| 11:13.02 | Mike-N-Go_ | Saved var |
| 11:14.28 | Mike-N-Go_ | This is the most recent, heh |
| 11:14.28 | Mike-N-Go_ | http://pastey.net/2372 |
| 11:14.42 | Mike-N-Go_ | I gave you one a few revisions back, first. |
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| 11:15.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | While we are here, how do I use lines 58-71? |
| 11:16.04 | iamhef | try replacing line 50 with this: |
| 11:16.04 | iamhef | local tmp = MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction] |
| 11:16.04 | iamhef | local recipient = tmp[itemType] |
| 11:16.05 | Mike-N-Go_ | Cide gave that to me. |
| 11:16.14 | iamhef | see which one it errors on |
| 11:16.59 | Teomyr | Mike-N-Go_: put these lines outside the function |
| 11:17.24 | Teomyr | Mike-N-Go_: e.g. move them to line 88 |
| 11:17.30 | Mike-N-Go_ | Oh |
| 11:17.33 | iamhef | what he said |
| 11:17.38 | iamhef | then invoke the function |
| 11:17.40 | iamhef | :) |
| 11:17.51 | Mike-N-Go_ | Can they be in both? |
| 11:18.03 | iamhef | ermm... huh? |
| 11:18.21 | Teomyr | if you leave them at 58-71, they'll probably give a syntax error |
| 11:18.26 | iamhef | i like this Pastey.net thing btw... never seen that before |
| 11:18.41 | Teomyr | iamhef: its in the topic :P |
| 11:18.50 | iamhef | lol woops |
| 11:18.54 | iamhef | ^_^; |
| 11:18.58 | Teomyr | :D |
| 11:19.18 | Teomyr | do you know MoonEdit? its a nice tool too |
| 11:19.24 | Mike-N-Go_ | I did a for statement that made my client lock up the other day :D |
| 11:19.26 | iamhef | i use Notepad++ at the moment |
| 11:19.33 | iamhef | but i haven't heard of MoonEdit |
| 11:19.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | I am on Macintosh |
| 11:20.08 | iamhef | collaborative! yes! i've been looking for a free one for windows |
| 11:20.38 | iamhef | i used to use one on mac... can't think of the name (too tired)... it had a little green man as the icon... |
| 11:20.49 | iamhef | SubEthaEdit |
| 11:21.12 | Teomyr | i wonder why there's so few of them |
| 11:21.18 | Teomyr | not many to choose from :( |
| 11:21.30 | iamhef | yeah... for being so useful, you're right |
| 11:21.51 | Mike-N-Go_ | It does not like the 2nd line of your debugging. |
| 11:22.11 | Teomyr | which message? |
| 11:22.25 | Mike-N-Go_ | tem is nil |
| 11:22.28 | iamhef | my second line? |
| 11:22.38 | Mike-N-Go_ | tmp* |
| 11:22.52 | iamhef | aha there's your problem then |
| 11:23.31 | iamhef | my guess is that _onEvent() never gets called or the part that init's MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction] doesn't happen |
| 11:23.44 | Mike-N-Go_ | Don't you need to define your vars with a list of them at the top of your code? |
| 11:23.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | What do you mean? |
| 11:24.20 | iamhef | no you don't have to do that |
| 11:24.33 | iamhef | hmm i wonder if the frame you create is recieving events at all |
| 11:24.55 | iamhef | i'm not very familiar with programmatically creating frames atm... |
| 11:24.59 | Teomyr | maybe it's missing f:Show() ? |
| 11:25.09 | iamhef | i'm pretty sure tho that an invisible frame doesn't recieve events |
| 11:25.12 | Teomyr | if it's hidden by default it probably won't receive events |
| 11:25.14 | iamhef | Teomyr: yes!@ |
| 11:26.41 | Mike-N-Go_ | Well, it has to, because the tables are created there! |
| 11:26.55 | iamhef | what tables? |
| 11:27.16 | iamhef | do you ever see the results of lines 22 and 23? |
| 11:27.23 | Mike-N-Go_ | MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction] = {} |
| 11:27.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yup, they appear. |
| 11:27.41 | iamhef | i'm not saying it shouldn't be executed, i'm saying i don't think it does =P |
| 11:28.37 | Teomyr | try changing line 25 to "if type(MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction]) ~= 'table' then" |
| 11:28.46 | Teomyr | not sure if that helps, but worth a try :P |
| 11:29.15 | iamhef | go for it |
| 11:29.55 | Mike-N-Go_ | Why do you use " ' " insted of " " " ? |
| 11:30.05 | Mike-N-Go_ | Humm, quoting quotes, lol. |
| 11:30.48 | iamhef | they work the same in lua |
| 11:31.04 | iamhef | (unlike php, if that's your background) |
| 11:31.21 | iamhef | (and unlike C, C# etc where ' == char) |
| 11:31.37 | Mike-N-Go_ | How about --if ( not ( MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction] )) or ( type(MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction]) ~= 'table' ) then |
| 11:31.48 | iamhef | that'll amount to the same |
| 11:31.56 | iamhef | b/c of shortcut logic |
| 11:32.04 | iamhef | try reversing the order |
| 11:32.35 | Mike-N-Go_ | I have learned alot about codeing in the last week, I have not really coded anything before this week. |
| 11:32.43 | Teomyr | well...if MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction] is not set, then type(MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction]) will return "nil", which is also different from "table" |
| 11:32.43 | iamhef | actually if you reverse the order it's redudant b/c type(nil) == "nil" |
| 11:33.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | And why do I fell ergged to put "()" around everything? |
| 11:33.44 | Mike-N-Go_ | Line 25 passes the reload. |
| 11:33.57 | iamhef | the same reason you feel the urge to end every line with a ";"? ;-) |
| 11:34.44 | iamhef | why don't you chunk in a DEFAULT_CHA...:AddMessage() in the block on line 26? |
| 11:34.52 | iamhef | that way you'll know for sure if it's happening |
| 11:36.13 | Mike-N-Go_ | Is it possible to "conserve space' by using ";" at the end of every line, and only have one line of text the whole addon file? |
| 11:36.31 | nevcairiel | i guess so |
| 11:36.37 | Mike-N-Go_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.50 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yay, debug nightmare. |
| 11:36.52 | Teomyr | uh... but for the sake of your own sanity, don't do it :P |
| 11:36.54 | Teomyr | yeah |
| 11:37.03 | Mike-N-Go_ | All errors would be line one. |
| 11:37.13 | iamhef | hahaha, what a thought |
| 11:37.33 | iamhef | i think i just lost a little sanity contemplating it |
| 11:37.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | Just be funny for someone to ask for help :) |
| 11:37.39 | iamhef | lol |
| 11:38.10 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yah, I just started Lua this week, and I know a good deal. |
| 11:38.50 | Mike-N-Go_ | Why do we have "local tem =...." in my code? |
| 11:39.42 | Teomyr | that's what iamhef suggested for debugging |
| 11:39.56 | iamhef | is it tem? |
| 11:40.00 | iamhef | cuz it should be tmp |
| 11:40.18 | iamhef | and that's what i suggested to find out which table had the problem indexing |
| 11:40.41 | iamhef | since you were indexing twice on a line that give an index error :) |
| 11:41.12 | Mike-N-Go_ | Come one, this table is only 3 layers deep, why am I having this problem... |
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| 11:42.10 | Mike-N-Go_ | http://pastey.net/2373 |
| 11:42.15 | Mike-N-Go_ | Is what I have now. |
| 11:42.43 | Mike-N-Go_ | Tell me if you like the change to the Default Chat Frames I made :P |
| 11:43.25 | Teomyr | nice :D |
| 11:43.38 | Teomyr | but line 59 is redundant, remove it |
| 11:43.52 | Teomyr | recipient is already defined in 54 |
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| 11:44.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("55: "..recipient) passes |
| 11:44.46 | iamhef | you mean it fails at 56? |
| 11:45.15 | Mike-N-Go_ | I changed the order. |
| 11:45.30 | Mike-N-Go_ | Because it stops when it hits an error. |
| 11:46.50 | iamhef | so umm... which one does it fail on then >_< |
| 11:46.55 | iamhef | :P |
| 11:48.10 | Teomyr | got to go now... good luck :) |
| 11:48.10 | Mike-N-Go_ | I just figured out something, we are calling the value of recipient if it is nil, then there is an error, it is nil if the user has not defined... |
| 11:48.13 | Mike-N-Go_ | Thanks, Teomyr. |
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| 11:48.50 | Mike-N-Go_ | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(recipient) is the one that passes. |
| 11:49.14 | Mike-N-Go_ | If recipient is defined in table. |
| 11:49.26 | Mike-N-Go_ | Why are we debugging this? |
| 11:49.45 | Mike-N-Go_ | It worked after I wiped out this addons SVs, lol. |
| 11:49.46 | iamhef | no idea you original said it errored on line 50(!) |
| 11:49.48 | iamhef | :P |
| 11:50.06 | iamhef | so confused! XD |
| 11:50.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | Because --/script MailDirectorData = { }; ConsoleExec("reloadui"); fixed it. |
| 11:51.14 | Mike-N-Go_ | Can you help me with --function canSendItem(bag, item); line |
| 11:51.23 | iamhef | that's just a function definition |
| 11:51.32 | Mike-N-Go_ | Err, code block. |
| 11:51.44 | iamhef | yea, i got what you meant |
| 11:51.52 | iamhef | you should prolly move it outside that function |
| 11:52.02 | iamhef | like put that block on line 96 |
| 11:52.06 | Mike-N-Go_ | How do I check if it is true or false? |
| 11:52.35 | Mike-N-Go_ | Because I would use that to decided to not send soulbound items :) |
| 11:52.36 | iamhef | local canSend = canSendItem(someBagNumber, someItemNumber) |
| 11:52.52 | Mike-N-Go_ | Where does that go? |
| 11:53.11 | iamhef | see http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_SetBagItem for the bag and item number details |
| 11:53.19 | iamhef | lol i dunno |
| 11:53.25 | iamhef | it depends on what you want to do with it! |
| 11:53.47 | iamhef | are you trying to not call ClickSendMailItemButton? |
| 11:53.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yup. |
| 11:54.12 | iamhef | well then, wrap that part in an if block |
| 11:54.26 | iamhef | and make the canSendItem call the test of the if block |
| 11:54.33 | Mike-N-Go_ | What I want: If item is soulbound, don't send blank mail. |
| 11:55.10 | Mike-N-Go_ | I don't know what you mean, I am new remember. |
| 11:55.37 | iamhef | alright... |
| 11:55.37 | iamhef | are you new to lua, wow ui development, or programming? |
| 11:55.46 | Mike-N-Go_ | All of it |
| 11:55.50 | iamhef | lol o i c |
| 11:56.28 | iamhef | well where'd most of this code come from anyhow? |
| 11:56.38 | Mike-N-Go_ | I did a minute amount of programing a few years ago, but I did not get much further then ifs/thens/whiles statements. |
| 11:56.48 | Mike-N-Go_ | Read the comments at the top :P |
| 11:56.50 | iamhef | o ok |
| 11:57.49 | iamhef | hmm well lemme examine this a bit... |
| 11:59.14 | Mike-N-Go_ | This is my first addon, there were about 8 'chunks' of code that various people made to help me. |
| 11:59.40 | iamhef | right that's what i figured ;) |
| 11:59.51 | iamhef | i notice you call ClickSendMailItemButton() a few times... is there a reason for that? |
| 12:00.00 | iamhef | do you just mean to call it once? |
| 12:00.49 | Mike-N-Go_ | And, I just altered it, and changed it, I even made my client lock up with a for or while statement waiting for an event to happen :D |
| 12:00.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | Here is what gets called when. |
| 12:01.18 | Mike-N-Go_ | Baised on the most recent pastey post by me: |
| 12:01.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | Line 1-30, at load, when player first logs in. |
| 12:02.54 | Mike-N-Go_ | Line 35-94, each time the keybinding is triggered and when the mail frame is open. |
| 12:03.20 | Mike-N-Go_ | 98-end, whenever the slash commands are called. |
| 12:03.51 | Mike-N-Go_ | I will call them part 1, 2, and 3 respectivley. |
| 12:04.13 | Mike-N-Go_ | Part one establishes the table with realm-faction |
| 12:04.14 | iamhef | hmm i'm looking it over |
| 12:04.24 | iamhef | can you tell me what ClickSendMailItemButton() returns tho? |
| 12:04.31 | iamhef | wowwiki doesn't have documentation on it |
| 12:04.42 | iamhef | i thought i could guess but i'd rather be sure |
| 12:05.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | ClickSendMailItemButton() - This seems to just simulate a click on the send item mail slot (will pickup the item there). --Bug 18:59, 4 Feb 2005 |
| 12:05.47 | Mike-N-Go_ | That means, move said item you click on to the COD pane. |
| 12:06.37 | iamhef | so like... drop the item? |
| 12:06.53 | Mike-N-Go_ | Part 3 is where user configures who gets what type of mail, from: Recipe, Consumable, Armor, Weapon, Container, Miscellaneous, Trade Goods, Projectile, Key, Quest, to Quiver |
| 12:08.32 | Mike-N-Go_ | Part 2 does all the "math" and sends the mail to the corresponding person, and displays who it is sent to , or if that is undefined. |
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| 12:08.55 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yes, like drop the item. |
| 12:09.13 | Mike-N-Go_ | It picks up the item you click on, and drops it in the COD pane. |
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| 12:09.29 | Mike-N-Go_ | Same idea as CT_MailMod |
| 12:09.41 | Mike-N-Go_ | They took my first key-binding :P |
| 12:10.09 | Mike-N-Go_ | I made the binding without someone else coding it. |
| 12:10.58 | Mike-N-Go_ | I need to get that with a header, not just thrown in with another addon... but I am not worried about that right now. |
| 12:11.20 | Mike-N-Go_ | Do you understand my design of my code? |
| 12:11.32 | iamhef | yeah i think so... i've been tinkering with it |
| 12:11.46 | iamhef | do you want to keep this warning? |
| 12:11.46 | iamhef | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("89: ".."You can't send mail to yourself.") |
| 12:11.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | I need to add that lisence. |
| 12:12.01 | iamhef | i dunno if it's really necessary, just as long as it doesn't try to run |
| 12:12.45 | Mike-N-Go_ | Sure, in its current state it also shows it as the regular error, it just shows the user that twice. |
| 12:13.59 | iamhef | ok... gimme a sec |
| 12:14.07 | Mike-N-Go_ | I liked my hard coded version: http://pastey.net/2233 |
| 12:14.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | It does not really matter all what you do with it. |
| 12:14.45 | Mike-N-Go_ | I can just look at how it does what differently and then adjust it to my liking. |
| 12:16.28 | Mike-N-Go_ | Thanks for you rhelp. |
| 12:16.39 | Mike-N-Go_ | ~iamhef |
| 12:16.58 | Mike-N-Go_ | ~hef |
| 12:18.11 | Mike-N-Go_ | Why did I have to make it so difficult, and I could have just allowed people to edit the hard coded version... oh well. |
| 12:19.49 | iamhef | try this: http://pastey.net/2375 |
| 12:21.57 | iamhef | look ok? |
| 12:22.03 | Mike-N-Go_ | Dang, you rewrote all of part 2 |
| 12:22.09 | Corrodias | if you have the appropriate mage talent and Fire Ward reflects a fire spell, does it still count against the amount of fire damage that is absorbed by the ward? |
| 12:22.15 | iamhef | yeah it was just cleaner that way ;) |
| 12:22.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | I want to look at it first. |
| 12:22.27 | iamhef | np |
| 12:22.44 | iamhef | Corrodias: umm ... ? |
| 12:22.47 | Mike-N-Go_ | What was wrong with http://pastey.net/2374? |
| 12:22.48 | iamhef | no clue =\ |
| 12:23.00 | iamhef | missing then's |
| 12:23.14 | Corrodias | hm. |
| 12:23.17 | iamhef | Mike: missing "then"s |
| 12:24.41 | Mike-N-Go_ | Did you test this new version :P |
| 12:24.47 | iamhef | lol no |
| 12:24.57 | iamhef | i would have to have your xml, toc file, etc |
| 12:25.09 | iamhef | i'll leave testing to you ;) |
| 12:25.17 | Mike-N-Go_ | Line 48: return; what does return do? |
| 12:25.29 | iamhef | it exits the function early |
| 12:25.46 | iamhef | it's prettier than tons of nested if blocks :) |
| 12:25.59 | iamhef | though you might get fussed at in a programming class for it |
| 12:26.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | What do you mean? |
| 12:26.44 | iamhef | fundamentalist professors often say functions should have only one entry point and one exit point |
| 12:26.52 | iamhef | so exiting early means you have at least 2 exit points |
| 12:27.20 | iamhef | it's a throw back to days of yore when sphagetti code ruled the land =P (that was bad) |
| 12:27.43 | iamhef | no worries |
| 12:27.54 | iamhef | just forget all that... it's perfectly legit |
| 12:28.14 | Mike-N-Go_ | Error like this: http://pastey.net/2377 |
| 12:28.16 | iamhef | it terminates the function early, i.e. prevents it from getting to the rest of the code below that point |
| 12:28.24 | Mike-N-Go_ | We fixed it a while back. |
| 12:28.42 | Mike-N-Go_ | Just earlier today. |
| 12:29.05 | Mike-N-Go_ | It has conflicts with auctuioner, ctmailmod, stubby, etc. |
| 12:29.20 | Mike-N-Go_ | All the things that call PickUpContaniorItem() |
| 12:29.47 | iamhef | oh yeah... that makes sense i suppose |
| 12:29.58 | iamhef | they expect you to still be holding the item i bet |
| 12:30.07 | iamhef | if you drop it early they get confused |
| 12:30.52 | Mike-N-Go_ | Everythings the same, except AMD's part. |
| 12:31.57 | Mike-N-Go_ | line 75 of http://pastey.net/2376, attempt to index global 'MailDirectorTooltip' (a nil value) |
| 12:32.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | That is the only difference. |
| 12:32.44 | iamhef | did you create a MailDirectorTooltip in your xml file? |
| 12:32.52 | Mike-N-Go_ | You did not make them local? |
| 12:32.55 | iamhef | if not try changing MailDirectorTooltip to GameTooltip |
| 12:33.17 | iamhef | it has nothing to with them being local... |
| 12:33.23 | Mike-N-Go_ | The only thing I have in the xml file is the kybind for the trigger for part 2. |
| 12:33.28 | iamhef | MailDirectorTooltip is expected to be a frame of type GameTooltip |
| 12:33.31 | iamhef | ok |
| 12:33.37 | iamhef | just change MailDirectorTooltip to GameTooltip |
| 12:33.45 | iamhef | do a find replace |
| 12:33.50 | iamhef | so that it changes it for 75 - 78 |
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| 12:33.57 | Mike-N-Go_ | Is that a part in the API? GameTooltip? |
| 12:34.24 | iamhef | kinda |
| 12:34.36 | iamhef | GameTooltip is a predefined frame |
| 12:34.44 | iamhef | with predefined methods (functions) |
| 12:35.00 | iamhef | for instance SetBagItem which points the tooltip to a bag item |
| 12:35.49 | Mike-N-Go_ | I will call what was part 3, part 4, and part 3 is now the check if soulbound. |
| 12:35.56 | iamhef | see http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_GameTooltip for more background |
| 12:36.56 | iamhef | well you do understand the difference b/t function definition and function calling..... right?? |
| 12:38.43 | Mike-N-Go_ | I think you mean: function definition == "function SomeFunction()" and function calling == "SomeFunction()" |
| 12:39.06 | iamhef | correct |
| 12:39.16 | iamhef | =D |
| 12:39.23 | iamhef | and they are different |
| 12:39.38 | iamhef | so on line 74 (part 3) nothing is actually getting called |
| 12:39.46 | iamhef | just to make sure you understand that part |
| 12:40.31 | Mike-N-Go_ | Now, there is a problem with line 51 of http://pastey.net/2376, same as before, but: attempt to index local 'itemLink' (a string value) |
| 12:40.53 | Mike-N-Go_ | Ahh |
| 12:41.01 | iamhef | oh crap... you're on WoW 1.12! |
| 12:41.08 | iamhef | sorry! |
| 12:41.14 | iamhef | i was coding with beta 2.0 in mind |
| 12:41.36 | iamhef | that's valid in lua 5.1 which beta 2.0 uses.... but not in lua 5.0 which wow 1.12 uses |
| 12:42.13 | iamhef | lemme fix all those.... |
| 12:43.41 | iamhef | ok try this one: http://pastey.net/2378 |
| 12:45.30 | iamhef | que pasa? |
| 12:46.14 | Mike-N-Go_ | Humm, I thought I put "Designed for Interface: 11200, wow 1.12.x" or somthing in the first comments, hummm |
| 12:46.45 | iamhef | comments are for suckers! XD (j/k) |
| 12:47.22 | Mike-N-Go_ | Without comments, you would have not clue how to begin to debug, (why did I put that there???) |
| 12:47.25 | iamhef | no, i love comments... but seriously even if you had put that up at the top i wouldn't have seen it or thought twice about it |
| 12:47.52 | Mike-N-Go_ | Can you just paste a followup, that would be easer for me to see what changes you make. |
| 12:48.01 | Mike-N-Go_ | For the next times. |
| 12:48.09 | iamhef | oh i didn't know you could do that |
| 12:48.12 | iamhef | sure np |
| 12:48.56 | Mike-N-Go_ | You clikc diff |
| 12:48.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | click* |
| 12:49.06 | iamhef | say huh? |
| 12:49.17 | Mike-N-Go_ | Heh, I thought you something :P |
| 12:49.31 | iamhef | lol kk |
| 12:51.11 | Mike-N-Go_ | Error, at http://pastey.net/2378 line 76: attempt to index global 'MailDirectorTooltip' (a nil value) |
| 12:51.27 | iamhef | i told you to change that >_< |
| 12:51.31 | Mike-N-Go_ | Heh, I have to change part 3 back to my thing. |
| 12:51.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | I did! |
| 12:51.37 | iamhef | nope |
| 12:51.40 | Mike-N-Go_ | You just overwrote it. |
| 12:51.45 | iamhef | ooo lol |
| 12:51.46 | iamhef | hahahaha |
| 12:51.57 | iamhef | sorry |
| 12:52.10 | iamhef | man i'm gettin loopy |
| 12:52.18 | Mike-N-Go_ | This is where "diff" on paste would be helpfull... |
| 12:52.18 | iamhef | it's sunrise here |
| 12:52.25 | Mike-N-Go_ | It is 4:50 here |
| 12:52.40 | iamhef | duely noted, i hadn't used pastey before tho |
| 12:53.46 | iamhef | so now that you changed that does it work? |
| 12:54.07 | Mike-N-Go_ | ORLY? |
| 12:54.17 | Mike-N-Go_ | Where did you post your code then? |
| 12:54.31 | iamhef | huh? |
| 12:54.46 | iamhef | que pasa wut? |
| 12:54.55 | Mike-N-Go_ | Pastey is so there is less "non-chat" in the irc room |
| 12:55.02 | Mike-N-Go_ | What is que? |
| 12:55.03 | iamhef | oo ok |
| 12:55.12 | Mike-N-Go_ | Que is what? |
| 12:55.16 | iamhef | si |
| 12:55.19 | iamhef | ;) |
| 12:55.27 | iamhef | que == what |
| 12:55.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | :O |
| 12:55.38 | iamhef | lol |
| 12:55.45 | iamhef | que pasa is spanish for what's going on |
| 12:56.15 | iamhef | anyway i didn't paste my code anywhere b/c this is only my second day in this irc channel :P |
| 12:56.43 | iamhef | i've been toying with ui dev for a little while but never joined in with the mod community |
| 12:57.01 | Mike-N-Go_ | What did you do before irc? |
| 12:57.20 | iamhef | i just released my first public mod last week on wowinterface so i could get a beta key to test it |
| 12:57.29 | iamhef | so before that... i ermm... did nothing :P |
| 12:58.04 | Mike-N-Go_ | I put my file twice over in the file? |
| 12:58.17 | iamhef | i dunno... did you? |
| 12:58.41 | Mike-N-Go_ | http://pastey.net/2379 |
| 12:58.41 | iamhef | i am not my fellow coders keeper |
| 12:58.47 | iamhef | hahaha either you did or pastey got confused |
| 12:59.18 | Mike-N-Go_ | What was your linnk? |
| 12:59.21 | Mike-N-Go_ | link? |
| 12:59.32 | Mike-N-Go_ | http://pastey.net/2378? |
| 12:59.49 | iamhef | http://pastey.net/2380 |
| 12:59.52 | iamhef | try that one |
| 12:59.56 | iamhef | i changed the GameTooltip lines |
| 13:00.05 | iamhef | it's a followup to 2378 |
| 13:02.01 | Mike-N-Go_ | Why do I have a "_" on my name? |
| 13:02.11 | iamhef | cuz it makes you sexier |
| 13:02.13 | iamhef | i have no clue |
| 13:03.16 | Mike-N-Go_ | Error: at http://pastey.net/2378, on like 52: bad argument #2 to 'find' (string expected, got no value); same as the first original pastie error except for that. |
| 13:04.03 | Mike-N-Go_ | member:zenzelezz, how did you do that? |
| 13:04.28 | iamhef | oops i'll fix that |
| 13:04.31 | Mike-N-Go_ | iamhef: What do you think of this IRC channel? |
| 13:04.48 | zenzelezz | Mike-N-Go_: /nick Mike-N-Go |
| 13:04.49 | Mike-N-Go_ | You forgot item name as the first var... |
| 13:04.50 | iamhef | t'ain't so bad |
| 13:05.04 | iamhef | i did indeed |
| 13:05.28 | iamhef | http://pastey.net/2381 |
| 13:05.36 | Mike-N-Go_ | Humm, error still there. |
| 13:05.40 | Mike-N-Go_ | On mine. |
| 13:06.11 | iamhef | did you try http://pastey.net/2381 ? |
| 13:06.19 | Mike-N-Go_ | I am |
| 13:06.20 | iamhef | k |
| 13:06.34 | Mike-N-Go_ | Success! |
| 13:06.38 | Mike-N-Go_ | The mail sent. |
| 13:06.52 | iamhef | phew |
| 13:06.57 | Mike-N-Go_ | What do you think of this, my AMD addon? |
| 13:06.58 | iamhef | that was a trip! |
| 13:07.11 | iamhef | i think: CONGRATS! |
| 13:07.22 | iamhef | welcome to mod authorship ;) |
| 13:07.30 | Mike-N-Go_ | What do you mean? |
| 13:07.42 | iamhef | i mean you are now the author of a working mod (addon) |
| 13:07.52 | iamhef | welcome :D |
| 13:07.59 | Mike-N-Go_ | I think my mods back-end is complete! |
| 13:08.06 | iamhef | cool |
| 13:08.45 | Mike-N-Go_ | Thank you for rearranging my sprite code, you will get a mention in the notes :P |
| 13:08.54 | iamhef | i'm gonna head off to sleep i think... drop me a line on wowinterface.com though if you need some more help |
| 13:08.56 | Mike-N-Go_ | What do you want to be know as? |
| 13:08.58 | iamhef | username: iamhef |
| 13:09.12 | iamhef | lol well thankyou, iamhef will do just fine |
| 13:09.25 | Mike-N-Go_ | Sorry, but I will have to capitalize that :P |
| 13:09.44 | Mike-N-Go_ | Are you sure you don't have a few moments to help me with a few other things on AMD? |
| 13:10.40 | iamhef | i'm really tired :( |
| 13:10.50 | iamhef | send me a private message at wowinterface.com tho |
| 13:10.55 | iamhef | i'll get back to you after some sleep |
| 13:11.06 | Mike-N-Go_ | Ok, Thank you, and GOOD NIGHT! |
| 13:11.12 | iamhef | good night =) |
| 13:12.08 | Mike-N-Go_ | That was fun :P |
| 13:13.00 | Mike-N-Go_ | A apologize to those of you who are looking this: I am sorry there is so much spam, but isn't spam with learning better then quiet without? |
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| 13:15.14 | Mike-N-Go_ | Yah, the back-end is complete! |
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| 13:44.37 | nevcairiel | anyone from US who could post in the 2.0 UI thread a question ? |
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| 14:04.05 | Corrodias | oh, i don't know if you've seen this, but it amuses me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NbBpp90coQ&mode=related&search= |
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| 14:31.01 | thr | Hmm, I don't realy know how to put this question - but I'll give it at try. |
| 14:31.32 | thr | When you activate "on next swing" skills such as Heroic Strike, Maul, Raptor Strike, etc. ? They light up with a yellow/goldish border in the action bars. |
| 14:32.13 | thr | Is there any way to find out if there is a "on next swing" skill waiting? and if you can - is it possible to know which one? |
| 14:32.56 | Kaso | IsCurrentAction i think |
| 14:37.50 | wereHamster | in TBC, is it possible to cast spells based on which buffs are active? |
| 14:38.30 | Mikma | in TBC Spells cast you |
| 14:39.14 | wereHamster | like.. you can cast spells based on in which stance a warrior is.. |
| 14:39.33 | Teomyr | i think theres an option for stances/stealth specifically |
| 14:39.45 | Teomyr | but i'm not very familiar with it |
| 14:39.55 | wereHamster | maybe it's possible to do it based on buffs/debuffs |
| 14:40.08 | Teomyr | * stance or stance:# - Choose depending on your stance/shapeshift ("stance" alone matches any stance) |
| 14:40.08 | Teomyr | * stealth - Choose depending on whether you are stealthed |
| 14:40.21 | Teomyr | see wowinterface front page, first news post |
| 14:41.30 | wereHamster | I don't see buff:#, so I assume it's not possible... |
| 14:41.50 | Teomyr | probably |
| 14:44.53 | Mery | I think slouken said the designers said no to buffs |
| 14:45.12 | Mery | (beside those explicitly provided, like stances) |
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| 14:46.15 | Maldivia | conditions are only things the player has 100% control over (combat being the exception) |
| 14:47.21 | Corrodias | ah, that's nifty |
| 14:47.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | who is this soulken every1 talks about ? |
| 14:47.40 | zenzelezz | you don't know slouken? o_O |
| 14:47.46 | Corrodias | poor druids don't have to be so concerned about prowl now, assuming "stealth" includes prowl |
| 14:47.47 | Maldivia | hehe... npc at honor hold "Magus Filinthus says: A mailbox? Well is that not the salt on the wounds! Twenty years cot-off from the world and now a mailbox! WONDERFUL!" |
| 14:48.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | zenzelezz: i dont :p |
| 14:48.58 | Maldivia | |FF|Im2good4u: the Blizzard developer that's head of the UI department (or something like that) |
| 14:49.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah oke |
| 14:49.44 | Cairenn|afk | actually, he's not a dev |
| 14:50.08 | Corrodias | just what the heck does he do there? |
| 14:50.21 | Cairenn|afk | he's one of their lead programmers though, and the one that's written all their UI code |
| 14:50.36 | Corrodias | is not a developer, but is a programmer? |
| 14:50.56 | zenzelezz | sounds like a contradiction |
| 14:51.00 | zenzelezz | not a designer perhaps? |
| 14:51.44 | wereHamster | ~emulate slouken |
| 14:51.53 | purl | ACTION picks up a bug swatter ... *splat* ... *splat* ... Ewww, that was a big one... |
| 14:51.54 | Corrodias | (developers developers developers developers...) |
| 14:52.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe juest a nerd ? |
| 14:52.20 | nevcairiel | ooh Cairenn, can you post something on the US forums for me? |
| 14:52.26 | Cairenn|afk | nevah! |
| 14:52.38 | nevcairiel | you are so mean :( |
| 14:52.42 | Cairenn|afk | I know |
| 14:52.48 | Cairenn|afk | PM me :) |
| 14:52.49 | Mikma | she likes it |
| 14:53.09 | Corrodias | anyway, he communicates with addon authors, sometimes in this channel and more commonly on the WoW forums, to tell us (them, i guess, since i don't actually make addons) about changes and get feedback, plus other stuff that i'm sure i don't know about |
| 14:54.16 | zenzelezz | slouken is the part of Blizzard that listens to the modders :-p |
| 14:54.30 | Cairenn|afk | nevcairiel: you hear that? |
| 14:54.34 | Teomyr | :D |
| 14:54.51 | nevcairiel | yeah, no need for pm tho, http://ace.pastey.net/2383 into the 2.0 ui thread, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623 |
| 14:54.55 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:55.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | as for the 2.0 info u forgot the socketing fuction :p |
| 14:56.08 | Cairenn|afk | nevcairiel: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&postId=472416552&sid=1#342 |
| 14:56.23 | nevcairiel | thanks :) |
| 14:56.32 | Cairenn|afk | quite welcome :) |
| 14:57.38 | Mikma | someone should say to slouken that he shouls make a private-forums for developers hehe |
| 14:58.06 | Corrodias | grr, those gnomes are fast little buggers |
| 15:01.03 | |FF|Im2good4u | lol |
| 15:03.26 | Mikma | i have to tell my findings here too. start TBC with default UI |
| 15:03.47 | Mikma | enable all bars and watch the borders of buttons |
| 15:03.57 | Mikma | then drag&drop a spell off and back to it's position |
| 15:04.04 | Mikma | see what happens to the border ;) |
| 15:04.13 | Mikma | s/border/borders/ |
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| 15:23.09 | grimman|afkish | Well... that was a short game. Half-Life: Opposing Force. :P |
| 15:23.13 | grimman|afkish | And quite boring too. |
| 15:23.40 | zenzelezz | it doesn't match Half-Life, but it's not bad |
| 15:23.53 | zenzelezz | Blue Shift on the other hand... now that should have never been |
| 15:23.59 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 15:24.16 | Corrodias | i think we can all see the obvious fecal pun there |
| 15:24.25 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 15:24.36 | grimman|afkish | I can't. |
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| 15:24.39 | grimman|afkish | Enlighten me. |
| 15:24.43 | zenzelezz | remove the f |
| 15:24.51 | grimman|afkish | ... |
| 15:25.02 | grimman|afkish | That wasn't even worth mentioning. |
| 15:25.23 | grimman|afkish | I for one wouldn't call it a pun either. |
| 15:25.27 | grimman|afkish | So you fail it. OKE? |
| 15:25.28 | grimman|afkish | ;) |
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| 15:25.42 | zenzelezz | no |
| 15:26.47 | Corrodias | calling it "blue shit" when the name is "blue shift" is a pun: A play on words, sometimes on different senses of the same word and sometimes on the similar sense or sound of different words. |
| 15:28.28 | grimman|afkish | I belive "clever" should be in the definition as well... at least that differentiates the fun stuff from the "..." stuff. |
| 15:28.31 | grimman|afkish | :) |
| 15:28.44 | zenzelezz | there is no requirement that a pun be fun |
| 15:28.54 | grimman|afkish | No no. Didn't say that. |
| 15:28.57 | Corrodias | well, you can feel how you want about it. but the fact exists that there are bad puns. |
| 15:28.59 | grimman|afkish | But the clever ones are fun. |
| 15:29.33 | grimman|afkish | Corrodias: "Bad" or just low quality? ;D |
| 15:29.48 | zenzelezz | this pun isn't meant to be fun, it's meant to channel some anger at the poor quality product they pushed out just to get some more cash |
| 15:30.47 | grimman|afkish | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/?snapshot20061112163014.jpg << WHY? |
| 15:31.09 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 15:31.21 | Corrodias | "why?": just what i was thinking, reading about these... "garbage disposals" |
| 15:32.33 | Corrodias | there are apparently some pieces of waste that cannot be run through it, so i just don't see the point of polluting the water that way if you still have to leave garbage for pickup, or whatever they do. |
| 15:32.56 | grimman|afkish | Oh so that's where it goes. |
| 15:32.59 | grimman|afkish | I've always wondered. |
| 15:33.13 | grimman|afkish | We don't have such equipment here in the civilized world. ;D |
| 15:33.39 | Corrodias | seems like nonsense to me. go us. |
| 15:34.59 | ag` | grimman|afkish: that's from prison break |
| 15:35.05 | grimman|afkish | I know. |
| 15:35.17 | grimman|afkish | I'm watching it... unfortunately. :( |
| 15:35.31 | grimman|afkish | My eyes are still burning. |
| 15:36.35 | grimman|afkish | Though... unless you've been watching old stuff like I am doing now, I fail to see why you'd want to remember that guy. ;) |
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| 15:38.59 | KaoS` | has anyone seen the difference with OpenGL mulit threading (on a mac at least) in the beta yet ? |
| 15:39.47 | grimman|afkish | k4ttkrak |
| 15:39.53 | grimman|afkish | mt |
| 15:40.10 | grimman|afkish | Ie. wrong window... :P |
| 15:40.31 | grimman|afkish | That'll teach me for watching TV at the same time, hehe. |
| 15:43.39 | Corrodias | and these dolls that shit themselves. what the hell. |
| 15:43.46 | grimman|afkish | o_o? |
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| 15:47.04 | Tain | Hey look everybody, its cladhaire! |
| 15:47.58 | Cairenn|afk | (shades of "Cheers") Clad! |
| 15:48.08 | cladhaire | morning |
| 15:48.08 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:48.38 | Tain | Yeah speaking of that, I had another case of not fully thinking what I was doing last week. |
| 15:49.01 | Tain | You know, yelling out, "Norm!" when someone comes in |
| 15:49.23 | Tain | Of course they're not named Norm, but it's funny anyway because of that |
| 15:50.00 | Tain | Well except her father-in-law's name is Norm, and he died last year. |
| 15:50.15 | Cairenn|afk | ouch |
| 15:50.19 | Tain | So I was the winner. |
| 15:51.59 | cladhaire | Hrm |
| 15:52.23 | cladhaire | Cide: Would you be interested in standardizing the inter-addon communication for cooldown checking, i..e battlerez, soulstone, etc? |
| 15:52.36 | cladhaire | Just what message/response scheme we can use? |
| 15:52.58 | Cide | maybe |
| 15:53.02 | zenzelezz | liek rez cd plz? |
| 15:53.04 | zenzelezz | 2m k? |
| 15:53.16 | Cide | but I need to broadcast that when the cooldown starts |
| 15:53.19 | Cide | and not "on demand" |
| 15:53.47 | Cide | I imagine that's irrelevant though since it could still use the same format |
| 15:53.53 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 15:55.00 | [Ammo] | some standard for that kind of thing would be excellent |
| 15:55.03 | cladhaire | well think on it, and how it works best for you to have it done.. I just think that's basic information that all raid frames would like/need |
| 15:55.33 | cladhaire | and you're right, some push mechanism rather than a pull for cooldown checks makes more sense |
| 15:55.57 | Cide | I'm thinking it's best to translate all names to english instead of using a common key for all languages |
| 15:57.16 | cladhaire | aye |
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| 15:57.55 | cladhaire | they dont even need to be full spell names, we could devise anything we want |
| 15:58.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | no w@y |
| 15:58.14 | thr | Does a frame need anything except enableMouse and movable set to tru to be movable? |
| 15:58.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | UpdatePaperdollStats(prefix, index) <-prefix seem tobe always nil |
| 15:58.26 | Cide | thr: no |
| 15:58.34 | thr | hmm, strange.. have to made some error then ;P |
| 15:58.35 | Cide | as long as you can :StartMoving and :StopMovingOrSizing |
| 15:58.38 | Cide | call* |
| 15:58.39 | thr | ye |
| 15:58.55 | thr | ah, lol... i forgot to add the event handles ;< silly me. |
| 15:59.01 | Cide | cladhaire: the problem still remains though |
| 15:59.07 | cladhaire | which one? |
| 15:59.25 | Cide | standardizing it only helps as long as all addons care about the same spells |
| 15:59.50 | cladhaire | well what i'm thinking about is a wiki that lists what "codes" we communicate for the spells |
| 15:59.51 | zenzelezz | or even follow the standard |
| 15:59.58 | cladhaire | and messages that aren't supported by the receiving addon are ignored |
| 16:00.01 | Cide | if one addon wants a spell that the other addons don't, they can't rely on those addons to send that message |
| 16:00.13 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 16:00.19 | cladhaire | thats why we decide on a core set that we want to support |
| 16:00.25 | cladhaire | and that's all we list/discuss |
| 16:00.44 | Cide | yeah, that works I suppose |
| 16:00.49 | cladhaire | Anything beyond that would require a massive round table discussion of all raid authors, and we'd have to vote using full robert's rules or order. |
| 16:00.49 | [Ammo] | well, you could support all, and let the receiving end filter what they want |
| 16:01.08 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: But I suspect Cide and myself wouldn't want to send 30,000 cooldown messages |
| 16:01.27 | [Ammo] | then you don't have to send them |
| 16:01.35 | Cide | then we can't support all either |
| 16:01.44 | cladhaire | but that's the point, you can't reluy on other addons to send the messages you expect |
| 16:01.45 | cladhaire | see =) |
| 16:01.53 | cladhaire | so we're talking Rebirth, Divine Intervention, Soulstone, what else? |
| 16:01.56 | cladhaire | anything new in the expansion? |
| 16:02.04 | Cide | let me see what I have |
| 16:02.10 | Cide | reincarnation for one |
| 16:02.17 | Cide | shield wall |
| 16:02.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | dahm lua jsut owned me :( |
| 16:02.31 | [Ammo] | why wouldn't you optionally support other cooldowns as well? |
| 16:02.38 | [Ammo] | if you don't have the cooldown listed, don't do anything |
| 16:02.39 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 16:02.42 | [Ammo] | I don't see the problem |
| 16:02.44 | Cide | [Ammo]: how can you? |
| 16:02.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | Prefix was nil but prefix.. dahm lol |
| 16:02.58 | cladhaire | I think you're missing the point |
| 16:03.05 | cladhaire | Do we support Cold Blood? |
| 16:03.12 | cladhaire | and if so, why? its a waste? |
| 16:03.15 | [Ammo] | do you care about supporting it? |
| 16:03.16 | cladhaire | ? |
| 16:03.16 | Cide | I vote yes! |
| 16:03.19 | cladhaire | No |
| 16:03.20 | cladhaire | and I won't send it |
| 16:03.25 | [Ammo] | then why care? |
| 16:03.26 | cladhaire | which means any addon that wants to didsplay it |
| 16:03.26 | cladhaire | can't |
| 16:03.33 | cladhaire | because half of their raid is running Praid |
| 16:03.34 | [Ammo] | ofcourse it can |
| 16:03.34 | Cide | [Ammo]: I care because if I support it, I need to localize it for all languages |
| 16:03.36 | cladhaire | so they can't count on me |
| 16:03.49 | [Ammo] | well I don't think for one praid should be sending those things |
| 16:03.56 | [Ammo] | why should raidframes send that stuff |
| 16:04.00 | cladhaire | ... |
| 16:04.02 | Cide | that means I need a table of *all* spells in order to optionally support it |
| 16:04.03 | cladhaire | that's what we're discussing |
| 16:04.07 | cladhaire | perhaps you should scroll back? |
| 16:04.19 | Cide | raid frames are exactly what should support & send that stuff |
| 16:04.31 | [Ammo] | oRA2 has no raidframes and does the job perfectly |
| 16:04.38 | [Ammo] | the raidframes should just listen, not send |
| 16:04.40 | Cide | yes, but I didn't say that design was very wise |
| 16:04.44 | Cide | no, that's your opinion |
| 16:04.46 | cladhaire | i'm not making them install another addon |
| 16:04.47 | cladhaire | period =) |
| 16:04.49 | cladhaire | so no |
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| 16:04.52 | cladhaire | the raid frames |
| 16:04.56 | cladhaire | or in this case, your oRA2 |
| 16:05.03 | thr | is there any way to detect when the user presses/uses an action on the action bar without scanning the bar every second? |
| 16:05.14 | deci | is /castsequence [<options>] reset=<#>/target/combat <spell1>, <spell2>, <spell3> not working yet? |
| 16:05.22 | cladhaire | thr: hook UseAction |
| 16:05.28 | Cide | deci: don't think so, no |
| 16:05.32 | thr | cladhaire: thanks |
| 16:05.39 | deci | doh :< |
| 16:05.44 | Cide | new features are usually added into the beta build a couple of weeks after they are announced |
| 16:06.04 | thr | cladhaire: where is use-action defined ? could not find it in ActionButton.lua |
| 16:06.10 | cladhaire | its an API function |
| 16:06.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys is OnEnter the enter bottun or whne a mouse enters the region ? |
| 16:06.27 | thr | oh. |
| 16:06.39 | [Ammo] | anyway, once you have some wiki page with some info I'll come back to the discussion |
| 16:06.45 | cladhaire | mouse enters the region |
| 16:06.49 | [Ammo] | my connection is getting killed in 5 mins |
| 16:06.51 | cladhaire | [Ammo] Thats entirely useless. |
| 16:06.52 | cladhaire | ok |
| 16:06.53 | deci | i was trying to have a macro use Premeditation, then Shadowstep, then Ambush(Rank 6) with having to spam a button 3 times, guess i have to wait till that gets put in :P |
| 16:06.53 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 16:07.01 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: I want to discuss stuff but can't anymore |
| 16:07.04 | [Ammo] | they're shutting me down :( |
| 16:07.06 | cladhaire | ok |
| 16:07.07 | cladhaire | np |
| 16:07.10 | [Ammo] | playing from a bar :) |
| 16:07.12 | [Ammo] | at sort of a LAN thing |
| 16:07.15 | [Ammo] | and it's the end.. |
| 16:07.32 | [Ammo] | later ~ |
| 16:08.00 | grimman|afkish | deci: "/cast Ambush" will do the same thing as "/cast Ambush(Rank 6)", in case you didn't know. |
| 16:08.04 | Cide | cladhaire: reincarnation, rebirth, soulstone, shield wall, divine intervention, lightwell maybe? |
| 16:08.28 | Cide | grimman|afkish: only as long as you don't have rank 7 or more ;) |
| 16:08.29 | cladhaire | oh |
| 16:08.31 | cladhaire | Challenging Shout. |
| 16:08.37 | cladhaire | wonder if there's anything else in the epxansion |
| 16:08.56 | Cide | misdirection is pretty short cooldown I think |
| 16:09.08 | grimman|afkish | Cide: Well yeah... what I was getting as was that it'd be easier to set it up like that since it doesn't require any maintenance. ;) |
| 16:09.21 | Cide | ah, yes, true |
| 16:09.31 | grimman|afkish | AND it saves macro characters to boot. |
| 16:09.44 | Cide | afk for dinner, so don't try talking to me (or you'll be talking to a wall!) |
| 16:10.00 | cladhaire | okay =) |
| 16:12.36 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Addon_Communication/Cooldowns |
| 16:12.39 | cladhaire | as a whiteboard |
| 16:13.50 | grimman|afkish | Wouldn't it be better to monitor spells that aren't available? |
| 16:14.15 | deci | is it possible to cast one spell after another with only one press currently? or do I need to wait for the castsequence to become available |
| 16:14.38 | grimman|afkish | deci: It's possible. |
| 16:14.52 | cladhaire | grimman|afkish: Not sure what you mean |
| 16:15.04 | cladhaire | Either way we need to account when the event change (i.e. it becomes available, it gets used) happens. |
| 16:15.05 | Industrial | Question: Is it possible to know the target swing speed? |
| 16:15.16 | grimman|afkish | nm, I re-read it and noticed the "/down" part. :P |
| 16:15.31 | Industrial | cause then you can swap to shield before he swings and back to polearm when you swing |
| 16:15.47 | Industrial | or does that trigger global cooldown or something |
| 16:16.06 | grimman|afkish | Anyway, what I meant was that it's probably a bit wasteful for an addon to report which spells it has available as opposed to reporting which crucial spells aren't available. |
| 16:16.08 | Kaso | swapping weapons does a 1sec cool;down |
| 16:16.10 | deci | switching weapons enables gcd |
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| 16:16.33 | Kaso | but yes, you can track swing times, im pretty sure there is an addon to do that |
| 16:16.58 | Industrial | aw |
| 16:17.07 | Industrial | no im just interested in the swapping |
| 16:17.09 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:18.28 | cladhaire | I have 38 gigs of music =( |
| 16:19.06 | grimman|afkish | ok |
| 16:19.07 | grimman|afkish | :P |
| 16:19.40 | Tain | That must be hard to have such a small collection of music. |
| 16:20.17 | cladhaire | i know, i run out after like 28 days of playback =( |
| 16:20.22 | cladhaire | that's weak |
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| 16:20.45 | Amadeo | damn |
| 16:20.48 | Tain | What are you going to do on day 30? |
| 16:20.51 | Amadeo | I have like 6 MP3s |
| 16:20.59 | grimman|afkish | 6? o_o |
| 16:21.07 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 16:21.12 | haste | I have quite a lot of MP3 |
| 16:21.16 | Tain | I've got around 110gb. |
| 16:21.20 | haste | but I rip myself :D |
| 16:21.24 | grimman|afkish | I'm measuring my e-penis as we speak. :P |
| 16:21.33 | haste | I can check mine also! |
| 16:21.43 | Amadeo | If I want to hear a song, I usually just grab it, I've never done playlists |
| 16:21.49 | Tain | Almost all of mine I ripped myself from CDs I own. |
| 16:22.05 | cladhaire | ame |
| 16:22.17 | grimman|afkish | Amadeo: My playlist works like this; If I like an album, I add it. When I grow tired of it, I remove it. ;D |
| 16:22.20 | cladhaire | with the exception of the japanese Nobuo Uematsu imports.. i only own like 5 of those albunms |
| 16:22.20 | deci | grimman|afkish: how can i sequence spells currently without /castsequence |
| 16:22.23 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 16:22.40 | haste | I have 41g of MP3 |
| 16:22.47 | haste | or "MP3", most of it is in ogg |
| 16:22.55 | haste | or FLAC |
| 16:22.57 | cladhaire | yay for ogg! |
| 16:23.00 | cladhaire | Viva la resistance! |
| 16:23.13 | grimman|afkish | deci: if (condition_A) then CastSpellByName("Spell A"); elseif (condition_B) then CastSpellByName("Spell B");end; |
| 16:23.20 | grimman|afkish | Something like that anyway. |
| 16:23.33 | Amadeo | I never got into ogg since I heard it was best for lower bitrate files |
| 16:23.44 | Amadeo | I wish I had more FLAC |
| 16:23.51 | Tain | I buy a lot of CDs. |
| 16:23.51 | grimman|afkish | Turns out I have 45 434.3 megs of MP3. |
| 16:23.58 | Kaso | cladhaire i was only patially tracking your and cide's conversation, but from i grasp, your going to have messages when a cooldown starts/ends, are you also going to have a somesort of update request when someone new joins the raid? |
| 16:24.09 | haste | _now_ I'm going to complete my Textile to BBCodes script |
| 16:24.11 | Tain | The problem is I ripped hundreds to MP3 years ago before I knew about FLAC and OGG was still new. |
| 16:24.13 | haste | so I can be arsed to make some add on topics |
| 16:24.18 | cladhaire | that seems to make sense |
| 16:24.27 | cladhaire | the goal is just to standardize the actual message |
| 16:24.38 | Amadeo | Tain: I heard the RIAA sends you a fruitcake every Christmas |
| 16:24.42 | deci | you need to just dload every type of music so you can have http://content.imagesocket.com/images/my_musicefd.JPG |
| 16:24.49 | deci | like me, and never listen to 80% of it |
| 16:25.33 | grimman|afkish | Who in their right mind has a system partition larger than 10 gigs? :P |
| 16:25.54 | grimman|afkish | And why store anything but system stuff on it? Mind boggling! |
| 16:25.59 | Amadeo | My HD is smaller than some of your MP3 collections |
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| 16:26.13 | cladhaire | yeah, that's a bad idea |
| 16:26.15 | Tain | I panicked at the thought of losing all of that work ripping and put together a 750gb RAID5 fileserver. |
| 16:26.46 | Puni | Hi, I'm having problems with GetInventoryItemCooldown lagging (i.e. reporting old values). Any workaround, like a sleep command or something? |
| 16:27.02 | cladhaire | Puni: Just ask for it later |
| 16:28.39 | Cide | cladhaire: I'd go for SECONDS instead of HH:MM:SS |
| 16:28.49 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 16:28.53 | cladhaire | i was thinking about that. |
| 16:28.54 | Cide | addons can convert it to a nicer displayed format if need be |
| 16:28.57 | cladhaire | aye |
| 16:29.08 | cladhaire | should the sending addon check for reagent as well? |
| 16:29.33 | Puni | cladhaire: Hm, not sure how to do that, except by adding some crap loop which will probably freeze up the interface. My script basically only does a couple of codelines. |
| 16:29.44 | Cide | I'd say reagent checks are a separate issue |
| 16:30.01 | cladhaire | Puni: Is this a macro or an addon? |
| 16:30.05 | cladhaire | Cide: I agree, just was curious |
| 16:30.15 | Puni | cladhaire: Macro that turned into an addon:) |
| 16:30.35 | cladhaire | any thoughts on the prefix, or does that make sense (and thus be unused at this time or int he future) |
| 16:30.45 | cladhaire | Puni: in order to wait, you need to schedule an onupdate or use a library |
| 16:30.54 | cladhaire | but i've never had GetInventoryItemCooldown show old information |
| 16:30.59 | cladhaire | since that's what the game uses to show the cooldowns |
| 16:31.09 | Kaso | well wouldnt it make sense for your standard to have ready, notready and notavail as replys, so if you dont have an anhk then just reply notavail, also in the case when the player doesnt have that skill trained yet |
| 16:31.35 | Cide | cladhaire: I was going to propose "COOLDOWN" but the one you have is more unique.. as long as there are no collisions it's really just a matter of preference, so yours is better |
| 16:32.16 | cladhaire | kaso: if the cooldown is 0, then its available. |
| 16:32.36 | Kaso | what about the case when the player doesnt have the skill then? |
| 16:32.44 | cladhaire | -1 |
| 16:32.57 | cladhaire | (we define the standard, so it can be anything we want) |
| 16:33.00 | cladhaire | or they don't respond. |
| 16:33.04 | cladhaire | either one gets you what you need |
| 16:33.21 | Kaso | well, thats sorta what i was suggesting, to have a -1 or whatever when the skill isnt castable due to reagent missing also |
| 16:33.39 | cladhaire | but like Cide said, i'm not sure reagents should be involved here. |
| 16:33.40 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 16:35.02 | Cide | I'd say no, because then you have to decide when it should send the reagent check, and then it has to check when bags are updated to check if we got the required reagent, etc etc |
| 16:35.15 | Cide | and as we all know, BAG_UPDATE is our favorite event |
| 16:35.16 | Puni | Hm well I don't like using onupdate or chronos, so I guess I'll do a workaround then. Any easy way to extract wether the player is stunned, or would one have to go through the debuffs and check manually? |
| 16:35.42 | Kaso | latter |
| 16:35.55 | Cide | Puni: implementing a single wait is very simple |
| 16:36.48 | Cide | local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f.update = <TIME_TO_WAIT>; f:SetScript("OnUpdate"; function() local update = this.update - arg1; if ( update <= 0 ) then <DO STUFF>; this:Hide(); else this.update = update; end end); |
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| 16:39.39 | cladhaire | Cide: What locales do you cover? |
| 16:39.40 | cladhaire | right now |
| 16:39.55 | Cide | en, fr & de |
| 16:41.25 | Cide | probably SP come expansion too |
| 16:42.08 | Cide | I'd do korean & chinese and all that but I haven't found anyone who can translate so /shrug :) |
| 16:42.29 | cladhaire | there are a few translators for ace... they're rabid |
| 16:42.34 | cladhaire | you may have the info you needin babel |
| 16:42.42 | cladhaire | i haev a few emails somewhere f you're interested |
| 16:42.46 | cladhaire | but they normally take care of ti themselves =) |
| 16:44.43 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Addon_Communication/Cooldowns |
| 16:44.56 | cladhaire | any preference against sending the full spell name, seems to make sense rather than truncating it unnecesaribly |
| 16:45.43 | cladhaire | I'm gonna put the localisations on that page, just so all the info needed is there |
| 16:46.02 | Corrodias | hey, i'm not paying (at least, not paying proportionally) for wasting blizzard's bandwidth on addon messages! |
| 16:46.19 | Cide | cladhaire: well, we could even go as far as sending the full spell name unmodified |
| 16:46.20 | Kaso | haha |
| 16:46.26 | Corrodias | send all the bytes you want |
| 16:46.43 | cladhaire | good point, the receivbing addon could handle localisation |
| 16:46.53 | cladhaire | but i'd rather have something thats' easier to regex |
| 16:47.03 | Cide | translated to english, I should say |
| 16:47.12 | cladhaire | although [%s%a]+ isn't too hard =0 |
| 16:47.16 | Cide | full spell name in english, unmodified |
| 16:47.21 | nevcairiel | is that a complete list which spells you want to add, or only a first version? i would love to see Innervate there, too |
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| 16:47.43 | Cide | innervate needs to go in, good point |
| 16:47.50 | Cide | cladhaire: could also move around seconds and spell name |
| 16:48.06 | Cide | ^(%d+) (.+)$ |
| 16:48.10 | cladhaire | ah yes |
| 16:48.13 | cladhaire | thats easier |
| 16:48.27 | Corrodias | enerviate is about the only reason they take me along... and misspell it |
| 16:48.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:52.27 | Kirkburn | When you innervate someone, they should stop casting to get the most mana regen, no? |
| 16:52.37 | Corrodias | no. it continues through casting |
| 16:53.12 | Corrodias | from what i understand, there is no benefit to holding off on your casting, but that's just from reading the tooltip. i haven't tested it. i guess i could be wrong. |
| 16:53.26 | cladhaire | Cide: do you have most of these localized right now, or shall I hunt? |
| 16:53.31 | Kaso | the tooltip is oddly worded |
| 16:53.34 | cladhaire | Soul Stone is the unique one, since it comes from an item |
| 16:54.15 | Corrodias | "Increases the target's Mana regeneration by 400% and allows 100% of the target's Mana regeneration to continue while casting. Lasts 20 sec." according to wowwiki |
| 16:54.21 | Kirkburn | "Increases the target's Mana regeneration by 400% and allows 100% of the target's Mana regeneration to continue while casting. Lasts 20 sec." |
| 16:54.25 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 16:54.26 | Kirkburn | dammit |
| 16:54.46 | Corrodias | that tells me specifically that you gain mana back at 4x the normal rate and you continue to gain it even if you're casting spells |
| 16:54.53 | Cide | Rebirth, Wiedergeburt, Renaissance |
| 16:54.57 | Cide | en, de, fr |
| 16:55.02 | cladhaire | aye |
| 16:55.07 | nevcairiel | yeah, it doesnt matter if you cast while being innervated |
| 16:55.13 | cladhaire | how do you have soulstone localised? |
| 16:55.37 | Cide | Soulstone Resurrection, Seelenstein-Auferstehung, R\195\169surrection de Pierre d\'\195\162me |
| 16:57.48 | Cide | reincarnation is kinda ugly |
| 16:57.55 | cladhaire | yeah i got em |
| 16:57.57 | Cide | have to check UseSoulstone if I remember correctly |
| 16:57.58 | cladhaire | pulling em all out now. |
| 16:58.16 | cladhaire | well have to put that in a notes section somewhere. |
| 16:58.49 | Cide | yeah |
| 17:01.34 | Corrodias | d'me |
| 17:02.28 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Addon_Communication/Cooldowns#Standards added localisation, and innervate |
| 17:02.59 | cladhaire | for soulstone, are we checking whether members HAVE a soulstone, or whether they are able to create one and apply it? |
| 17:03.30 | Cide | the latter |
| 17:03.43 | Cide | I think... |
| 17:03.45 | Cide | maybe not |
| 17:03.45 | cladhaire | okay, we should probably specify that somewhere |
| 17:03.46 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 17:03.52 | cladhaire | i'm not sure which makes the most sense. |
| 17:04.02 | Cide | I can't remember which I'm doing in the first place |
| 17:04.05 | Maldivia | didn't they change Soulstones for 2.0, so they can't be used while in combat? |
| 17:04.42 | Cide | can't say I've tried |
| 17:04.52 | Corrodias | ...can't use the item, or can't utilize the effect? because it would be pretty silly to die when out of combat. |
| 17:05.03 | Maldivia | cant use the item |
| 17:05.18 | Maldivia | but might have been a bug, just saw some posts about it on the forums |
| 17:05.34 | zenzelezz | as in can't put the soulstone on someone in combat, or can't use the resurrect while in combat? |
| 17:05.44 | Cide | you can't be in combat when you're dead :P |
| 17:05.49 | Corrodias | i guess it's that you can't apply it |
| 17:06.03 | Cide | yes; use common sense, people! |
| 17:06.07 | zenzelezz | Cide: I'd assume it'd check if the raid was in combat or something |
| 17:06.17 | Corrodias | i've only ever seen a soulstone be applied to someone during combat twice, in all the time i've spent with warlocks. |
| 17:06.22 | Cide | don't think the architecture allows for that |
| 17:06.37 | bljakk | but hey, it would be cool if you couldn't use the soulstone when you die ;) |
| 17:07.20 | Corrodias | i'd LIKE to be able to choose whether to use it or save it |
| 17:07.24 | cladhaire | innervate is a 6 minute cooldown, no? |
| 17:07.29 | Corrodias | it is |
| 17:10.02 | cladhaire | should we make it so multiple messages can be sent together? |
| 17:10.05 | cladhaire | i.e. when someone joins the raid |
| 17:10.17 | cladhaire | so druids can send Rebirth and Innervate at the same time? |
| 17:10.40 | cladhaire | i suspect its not an issue, but wanted to ask =) |
| 17:11.51 | cladhaire | http://www.wowwiki.com/Addon_Communication/Cooldowns now has some examples, etc. |
| 17:13.31 | cladhaire | okay, I'm going to go hop in the shower |
| 17:13.33 | cladhaire | bbiab |
| 17:13.55 | Maldivia | cladhaire: you making a library to handle it, or just a protocol ? |
| 17:13.58 | Amadeo | I wouldn't do that if I were you |
| 17:14.00 | Amadeo | you might slip |
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| 17:15.43 | bljakk | doing libaries wouldn't even be that hard, hmm |
| 17:16.41 | Maldivia | no, relatively simple to make, just a matter of defining the API for it |
| 17:16.58 | bljakk | and the popularity of course |
| 17:17.19 | bljakk | if most of peopel agree to use it, then you can standarize most of ui communications, and speed it up |
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| 17:18.07 | Maldivia | A few methods I can think of would be something like: GetSpellCooldowns(spllName) GetUnitCooldowns(unit) IsOnCooldown(unit, spellName) |
| 17:18.07 | thr | is there any event of turning on/off auto attack? |
| 17:18.31 | thr | ah found it |
| 17:18.34 | thr | strange names on the events ;> |
| 17:18.38 | Maldivia | yep |
| 17:19.14 | Maldivia | player_enter_combat and player_leave_combat |
| 17:20.03 | Maldivia | well, not strange names, but easily mistaken for the functionality of the player_regen_enabled/disabled events |
| 17:21.49 | thr | Maldivia: hmm |
| 17:21.59 | thr | but player_leave_combat does not seem to fire when i disable autoattack |
| 17:22.01 | thr | but stil in combat. |
| 17:22.29 | thr | forget it, i forgot to regsiter for the event i only wrote the method to handle it ;P |
| 17:22.30 | thr | my bad. |
| 17:22.35 | Maldivia | heh |
| 17:25.29 | cladhaire | no, not making a library for it |
| 17:25.34 | cladhaire | making an API |
| 17:25.46 | cladhaire | embeds for something so trivial doesn't make sense, in my opinion |
| 17:25.55 | cladhaire | I'd personally rather write the code myself. |
| 17:26.26 | cladhaire | ok running to my parents house. |
| 17:26.26 | cladhaire | bbiab |
| 17:28.35 | Kirkburn | Someone is trying to argue Free Speech (via the First Amendment) on the WoWWiki |
| 17:29.56 | Kirkburn | They feel that it's okay to label people as racist, sexist, etc, as long as *they* think it's true :/ |
| 17:30.28 | Neuro_Medivh | People sure don't seem to understand the concept of the first amendment |
| 17:30.38 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: tell them that yes, it is, as long as they do it on their own sites, not public sites |
| 17:30.38 | Neuro_Medivh | it says congress can't make it illegal |
| 17:30.58 | Neuro_Medivh | it doesn't say you have to be provided a public forum |
| 17:31.02 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, indeed, I told him to take it to Blizzard if he has a problem with the guild |
| 17:31.27 | Kirkburn | This is the discussion: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Kirkburn#Vandalism_of_Fervor_Crushridge_discussion |
| 17:31.37 | Kirkburn | (the article is deleted, but safe to say, it was DNP) |
| 17:32.12 | Kirkburn | Neuro_Medivh, thanks for the info :) I don't know US law so well :P |
| 17:33.02 | Kirkburn | Mainly he seems incredibly upset that someone labelled him a vandal. Um, despite him doing vandal-like stuff |
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| 17:36.50 | Neuro_Medivh | Point him to the definition of Vandalism. it means the willful destruction of other people's property |
| 17:37.37 | Neuro_Medivh | Does he own wowwiki? |
| 17:38.18 | Neuro_Medivh | then it's vandalism to intentionally screw with it |
| 17:38.24 | cladhaire | wait what happened? |
| 17:38.44 | cladhaire | my drama alert went off! |
| 17:39.24 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, nothing, it's like third hand drama |
| 17:39.39 | cladhaire | thats like.. the best kind |
| 17:39.42 | Neuro_Medivh | something about wowwiki and vandalism and someone arguing free speech |
| 17:39.48 | cladhaire | heh |
| 17:40.12 | Amadeo | Which keyboard is best these days? For more than gimmicks...mainly quality of type feel and such |
| 17:40.16 | Neuro_Medivh | probably some kid who watched too much Law and Order and thinks they are an expert on the legal system |
| 17:40.34 | Neuro_Medivh | Keyboard is a very personal choice to be honest |
| 17:40.34 | Tain | That depends on what type of feel you like, Amadeo. |
| 17:40.37 | Neuro_Medivh | it's like buying a bed |
| 17:40.51 | Tain | I loves me some mechanical buckling spring keyboard, for example. |
| 17:41.13 | Tem|Sleep | oh dear god |
| 17:41.14 | Neuro_Medivh | with the deep keys? |
| 17:41.27 | Tem|Sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.30 | Neuro_Medivh | that have a nice snap to em? |
| 17:41.30 | grimman|afkish | cladhaire: "When Joining a Raid"... I was thinking, it would be more efficient to have the addon only send the active cooldowns and, if necessary, unavailable spells... spells with no cooldown could be assumed available. |
| 17:41.41 | Tain | Big click snap. |
| 17:41.58 | cladhaire | that makes sense as well, that's why i opened the can or worms for dsicussion =) |
| 17:41.58 | Tain | Tem get rid of that vile abomination. |
| 17:42.01 | Tain | I don't care where its from. |
| 17:42.05 | Amadeo | I like the mechanical springs too |
| 17:42.12 | Amadeo | This squishy plastic membrane stuff suck |
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| 17:42.21 | Tem | Tain, some noob on the forums posted it |
| 17:42.43 | Tem | question, does rapid fire start the GCD? |
| 17:42.44 | Amadeo | Neuro_Medivh: I dunno, I find that 99% of keyboards are the same pieces of junk :P |
| 17:42.48 | Tain | I belive that is part of the spell to open the fifth door of hell. |
| 17:43.07 | grimman|afkish | Tem: I can check. |
| 17:43.12 | Tem | thanks |
| 17:43.18 | Neuro_Medivh | Amadeo, I recommend going to the store and checking all the different keyboards for one you like |
| 17:43.24 | Tain | I do like my Logitech G15 keyboard, it doesn't have the "best" key feel to me, but it's good. |
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| 17:43.36 | Amadeo | That's the problem |
| 17:43.36 | Tain | And I like the rest of what it does more than enough to make up for it. |
| 17:43.43 | Amadeo | Everytime I go to the store, they generally all feel the same |
| 17:43.51 | Neuro_Medivh | which store? |
| 17:43.58 | Amadeo | The strange thing is, the cheaper the keyboard, the better it feels...though it still feels too cheap to buy |
| 17:44.08 | Neuro_Medivh | I'd go to someplace like Frys |
| 17:44.14 | Neuro_Medivh | cheap keyboards are often quite good |
| 17:44.14 | Amadeo | We don't have those :( Wish we did |
| 17:44.24 | Neuro_Medivh | Mine is a 7 dollar no frills keyboard |
| 17:44.25 | zenzelezz | high price only means it has lots of useless features |
| 17:44.39 | Tem | I <3 my ergonomic keyboard |
| 17:44.44 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh god |
| 17:44.47 | grimman|afkish | I bought my keyboard like 6 years ago, and I love it. :) |
| 17:44.49 | Amadeo | My favorite keyboard is behind me, but some keys don't always work when I press them |
| 17:44.50 | Neuro_Medivh | those split things? |
| 17:44.55 | Amadeo | and I can't seem to fix it |
| 17:45.06 | Tain | See I like the ergonomic split keybards but never found one with a key feel I liked. |
| 17:45.09 | zenzelezz | I actually paid a little for my Microsoft Digital Media Pros, but only because I like the way it feels to type on |
| 17:45.19 | Tain | The MS keyboard keys are "mushy" to me to the point where I hate it. |
| 17:45.20 | grimman|afkish | Tem: No global cooldown. |
| 17:45.46 | Tem | awesom thanks |
| 17:45.50 | grimman|afkish | np |
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| 17:46.08 | grimman|afkish | Odd though, BC silently crashed first time I logged in. :P |
| 17:46.21 | Amadeo | Tain: I had that Northgate ergo once...the ugly one...type feel was good, but the keys wiggled too much for my tastes...plus it was junk, it busted due to internal software |
| 17:46.23 | Gello | i can't abide compaq computers, but their keyboards are the best imho. i love the feel to them |
| 17:46.35 | Tem | grimman|afkish, it could probably tell that you were doing something for me |
| 17:46.42 | grimman|afkish | hehe |
| 17:46.43 | zenzelezz | I used to use a Trust Direct Access, best keyboard I've ever had, but can't find any in stores anymore |
| 17:47.04 | Neuro_Medivh | Compaqs used to be good computers =( |
| 17:47.30 | Tain | pckeyboards.com used to sell the good mechanical keyboards, like the old IBM PS/2 keyboards. |
| 17:47.43 | Tain | But I'm not sure if they still do, they look to have a lot of custom stuff now |
| 17:48.05 | Neuro_Medivh | Amadeo, do you live in a big city, or some small town? |
| 17:48.06 | grimman|afkish | http://www.mp-world.org/Grafiken/Testberichte/Hardware/Eingabe/20.jpg << That's my keyboard, basically. ^^ |
| 17:49.24 | Amadeo | Neuro_Medivh: I'm in Maryland, city-type area, D.C. isn't too far |
| 17:50.16 | Neuro_Medivh | I'd find an old used computer shop then |
| 17:50.27 | Neuro_Medivh | and go through their old keyboards |
| 17:50.48 | Neuro_Medivh | in Houston there was a shop that had a huge bin of old keyboards |
| 17:51.09 | Neuro_Medivh | you could go through them, if you found one you liked you could hook it up to a machine and see if it worked |
| 17:51.44 | Amadeo | the closest place near me is called |
| 17:51.47 | Amadeo | "The Computer Place" |
| 17:52.02 | Amadeo | it's where I bought my favorite keyboard, but they normally just buy whatever's available and then sell it |
| 17:52.05 | Amadeo | so you gotta check by a lot |
| 17:52.42 | Amadeo | I should stop by again, I don't even know if they're still around |
| 17:52.55 | Neuro_Medivh | What you're looking for is a hole in the wall type place, with old ex-hippies running the place |
| 17:53.27 | Neuro_Medivh | the kind of place you could probably find a working commodore 64 for sale |
| 17:54.09 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:54.19 | Amadeo | I guess I have to look in the phone book for that |
| 17:57.51 | Tain | Can you look up, "Hippie" in the phonebook? |
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| 17:59.24 | grimman|afkish | Oooooh. Scouring ze intarweb auction sites for "keyboard" came up with two results that look like they have the same keycaps as my current keyboard. :D |
| 17:59.29 | grimman|afkish | Been searching for replacement caps for ages. |
| 18:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | mmmmmm, SO nice |
| 18:00.23 | grimman|afkish | Sounds familiar. |
| 18:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_Keyboard |
| 18:00.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Nicest keyboard on the planet for anyone who *uses* a computer |
| 18:00.39 | ScytheBlade1 | End of stor |
| 18:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | +y |
| 18:00.47 | grimman|afkish | What I want is a proper Keytronic with weighted keys... but they don't make the ones I want anymore. :( |
| 18:01.05 | grimman|afkish | ScytheBlade1: Well ok, that's why it sounded familiar then. ;D |
| 18:01.21 | ScytheBlade1 | grimman|afkish, if you're looking for a new keyboard, I highly recommend oen |
| 18:01.24 | ScytheBlade1 | .. *one |
| 18:01.33 | Amadeo | Tain: You just go to the page with flowers on it |
| 18:01.43 | Amadeo | brb :) |
| 18:01.43 | ScytheBlade1 | As hyopcritical as this sounds, it increased my typing speed by about 50 and removed the HUGE majority of my typos |
| 18:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously, it did |
| 18:02.00 | Tain | Ah it's http://www.pckeyboard.com/ that sells Model-M clones. |
| 18:02.04 | grimman|afkish | Oh, I know. |
| 18:02.06 | Tain | I had the site wrong. |
| 18:02.25 | grimman|afkish | But the thing is, I've grown so used to the extra windows keys that I can't live without them any longer. |
| 18:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | My keyboard has them |
| 18:02.38 | Tain | That's why you buy one of the new ones that include the Win key. |
| 18:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Clones and variants exist that have them both |
| 18:02.54 | grimman|afkish | Best part about using a different windows shell is that you can define lots and lots of global hotkeys... and the windows key is perfect for that. |
| 18:03.22 | grimman|afkish | Hm, ok... I thought the Model M wasn't made anymore and as such you could only buy old refurbished keyboards. |
| 18:03.35 | grimman|afkish | Pre-Win95 era keyboards that is. |
| 18:03.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh, to that end, I suggest you use KDE on linux.. puts windows hotkeys to shame, literally |
| 18:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | As I said (and Tain said), people still make clones |
| 18:03.55 | grimman|afkish | :) |
| 18:03.56 | Tain | It isn't, that site I linked above makes clones of the Model-M with current features. |
| 18:04.02 | grimman|afkish | Been looking at Das Keyboard. |
| 18:04.10 | grimman|afkish | Supposedly a clone. |
| 18:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | They aren't cheap, but they *are* worth every penny. |
| 18:06.17 | grimman|afkish | Tain: That site you linked doesn't have very many pictures. :P |
| 18:06.26 | grimman|afkish | I'm VERY particular about what keyboards I use, hehe. |
| 18:06.59 | grimman|afkish | Key layout is as important as the feel to the keys. I don't doubt you guys feel the same way about that. |
| 18:07.11 | Tain | There's pictures of every model. |
| 18:07.56 | grimman|afkish | Not all versions then. :P |
| 18:08.19 | Tain | Really it's just the http://www.pckeyboard.com/customizer.html that's relevant unless you like keyboards with built in mouse pointers or rollerball |
| 18:09.51 | grimman|afkish | >_< |
| 18:10.03 | grimman|afkish | Linked to from the one page I didn't deem worthy of looking at. |
| 18:11.01 | grimman|afkish | But there's still not pics of all keyconfigs. |
| 18:11.58 | grimman|afkish | http://www.pckeyboard.com/pdf/uk%20ps2.pdf << This being the one I want, but with the extra win keys. |
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| 18:16.13 | Kirkburn | I wish USB keyboards worked during startup :/ |
| 18:17.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Kirkburn, start using linux :/ |
| 18:17.57 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 18:17.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, there's my trolling for the week. |
| 18:18.19 | Tain | There's usually a BIOS setting to allow for USB keyboards to work, I believe. |
| 18:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, some BIOs will do that |
| 18:18.42 | Kirkburn | How do I get to the BIOS without a keyboard ;) |
| 18:18.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Kirkburn, I have six sisters... it probably got one of them. It'll be a bit before anyone notices, though |
| 18:18.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Kirkburn, update your BIOS or get a PS/2 adapter ;) |
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| 18:19.36 | Kirkburn | Doesn't matter that much tbh, but I'll probably borrow a housemate's keyboard sometime |
| 18:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Kirkburn, every USB keyboard that I've bought for the past several years has a PS/2 adapter |
| 18:21.04 | Kirkburn | G15 |
| 18:21.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 18:21.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be why |
| 18:21.28 | nevcairiel | my g15 works during boot |
| 18:21.43 | nevcairiel | did you activate USB Legacy Keyboard support in the bios? |
| 18:21.57 | Tain | Yeah its just some PC BIOS don't have it by default and so USB keyboards won't work. |
| 18:22.14 | Tain | which is funny because as Kirkburn said you can't get into the BIOS if it isn't set. |
| 18:23.01 | Kirkburn | Probably not :P |
| 18:23.08 | Kirkburn | (to nevcairiel) |
| 18:23.31 | Kirkburn | I'll have to check later |
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| 18:27.16 | Puni | Calling UseInventoryItem(slot); local start, duration, enable = GetInventoryItemCooldown("player", slot); returns start = 0 duration = 0 even though UseInventoryItem was successful, any idea why? |
| 18:29.25 | Neuro_Medivh | because getinventoryitemcooldown doesn't take unitid as a parameter |
| 18:30.03 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, or maybe it does |
| 18:30.49 | Tem | it doesn't update the info until after control leaves the UI |
| 18:30.58 | Tem | that'd be my guess |
| 18:30.59 | Neuro_Medivh | OH, he's doing both at the same time? |
| 18:31.02 | Neuro_Medivh | then yeah |
| 18:31.42 | Neuro_Medivh | can you actually check the item cooldown on someone else? |
| 18:31.52 | Neuro_Medivh | that seems... odd |
| 18:33.15 | Tem | it probably doesn't work for anyone other than "player" |
| 18:33.17 | cladhaire | i suspect it shows in the inspect window |
| 18:33.21 | cladhaire | btu i have no idea =) |
| 18:34.02 | Puni | Tem: Hm ok, I'm not familiar with scripting, any suggestion for a workaround? |
| 18:34.15 | Tem | what do you need it for? |
| 18:34.21 | Neuro_Medivh | heheh, /run if GetInventoryItemCooldown("target", 13) > 0 then CastSpellByName("Polymorph"); /say Hahahah! Your trinket is on cooldown! |
| 18:34.53 | Neuro_Medivh | Puni, what do you WANT the macro to do? |
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| 18:37.09 | Puni | Well... basically it was fine, it checked if a trinket was on cooldown, popped if it wasn't, and printed an appropriate message depending on the trinket name, along with the trinket link. But I wanna incorperate a check for wether the trinket was actually popped, the player could have been stunned, mounted, etc. |
| 18:37.54 | Puni | Altough Neuro's suggestion was funny :P |
| 18:40.52 | Puni | So I thought the easiest way was just to check if the trinket had gotten a cooldown, but since the function value isn't updated until after my script finishes... :/ |
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| 18:43.14 | bljakk | Puni: can you write down whole macro you would wanna use? |
| 18:43.35 | Neuro_Medivh | Oooh, use Aftercast! |
| 18:43.41 | Neuro_Medivh | oh, wait, it's an item |
| 18:43.45 | grimman|afkish | Rawr, sexy wallpaper. ^^ |
| 18:44.19 | grimman|afkish | Also, lol @ random Bingo show. |
| 18:44.22 | grimman|afkish | Someone won a car. |
| 18:44.32 | grimman|afkish | Turns out it's a used car. |
| 18:44.39 | grimman|afkish | And someone else won his weight in cheese. |
| 18:45.25 | Neuro_Medivh | Puni, I don't think there's any way to do that... testing success or failure in the same macro as using the item |
| 18:45.58 | bljakk | Neuro_Medivh: there is, if you test it BEFORE you use the item ;) |
| 18:46.14 | Puni | Would have been easy if they would add a return value to UseInventoryItem |
| 18:46.29 | cladhaire | they can't. |
| 18:46.32 | cladhaire | its event driven |
| 18:46.33 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 18:46.36 | Neuro_Medivh | requires client-server interaction |
| 18:46.43 | cladhaire | The client doesn't know if it can use an item or not. |
| 18:46.51 | cladhaire | it just does preliminary checks on quantity, cooldown, etc. |
| 18:46.57 | cladhaire | there are still things that need to hit the server |
| 18:48.27 | cladhaire | okay |
| 18:49.25 | Puni | Thing is, I can see from AutoTrinketLoader debug code that author has stumbled across the same problem as well, only I'm not sure how he actually handled it |
| 18:50.22 | Neuro_Medivh | he probably did like bljakk said, he tested failure beforehand |
| 18:51.19 | bljakk | well, when can itemusage fail? if its on cd, if youre mounted or if youre kinda stunned |
| 18:51.30 | bljakk | why dont you simply check those 3 conditions |
| 18:51.34 | Puni | depends on trinekt bljakk |
| 18:51.46 | Puni | insignia works when stunned, lifegiving does not |
| 18:52.01 | Puni | etc... cba to hard code all trinkets |
| 18:56.32 | Shadowed | some insignia's work when stunned |
| 18:56.39 | Shadowed | others work when feared, charmed, ect |
| 18:56.39 | thr | hmm i have a problem with the shadow frames |
| 18:56.43 | thr | eh, chat frames. |
| 18:56.55 | thr | i've draged a new frame out |
| 18:57.06 | thr | but it seems very keen on dissapreaing now and then |
| 18:57.06 | thr | what's wrong? ;< |
| 18:57.08 | Puni | Shadowed: well, point remains, even more hardcoding then... would have been easier to just do a cooldown check after using it |
| 18:57.13 | thr | meh, now it did it again |
| 18:57.33 | bljakk | thr: uncheck "auto-join guild recruitment channel" |
| 18:57.43 | thr | thnx |
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| 19:23.50 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:24.05 | iamhef | hi ck :) |
| 19:25.10 | thr | eh.. hm |
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| 19:25.22 | thr | anyone got coords to the horde entrance to warsong gulch? |
| 19:25.38 | thr | need to go and buy some stuff of the vendor but well... i don't know where it is ;> |
| 19:25.53 | iamhef | i can tell you about where it is... don't have coords tho |
| 19:25.53 | Kaso | what is "UPDATE_EXHAUSTION" ? |
| 19:26.01 | thr | iamhef: well, where? ;d |
| 19:26.02 | cladhaire | for the Chinese |
| 19:26.05 | bljakk | thr: its just before you leave barrens in ashenvale direction, on your left |
| 19:26.07 | cladhaire | they are limited as to how long they can play per day |
| 19:26.10 | thr | k, thnx. |
| 19:26.14 | iamhef | yeah what he said |
| 19:26.23 | iamhef | Kaso: i think that's when rest xp gets updated |
| 19:26.33 | Kaso | ah |
| 19:26.46 | Kaso | makes sense |
| 19:27.13 | cladhaire | its not rest XP =) |
| 19:27.26 | Puni | what does a lookup into a non-existant array entry return ? nil ? 0 ? |
| 19:27.32 | cladhaire | nil |
| 19:27.34 | bljakk | nil |
| 19:27.42 | Kaso | what is it then clad? |
| 19:27.46 | cladhaire | read whaty i wrote |
| 19:27.49 | bljakk | check the array for nil before trying to loop through it though |
| 19:27.54 | cladhaire | its for the Chinese, they are limited as to how long they can play each day |
| 19:28.03 | KaoS` | has anyone seen the difference with OpenGL mulit threading (on a mac at least) in the beta yet ? |
| 19:28.17 | iamhef | cladhaire: do you mean it's rest xp * 2? |
| 19:28.18 | cladhaire | their charatcers get "Exhausted" and they get a reduction in level, so they can't play past their alloted time |
| 19:28.23 | Kaso | oh |
| 19:28.25 | cladhaire | Kaos`: yes. a big difference. |
| 19:28.30 | cladhaire | it has nothign to do with rest experience =) |
| 19:28.39 | KaoS` | is it alot faster ? |
| 19:28.48 | bljakk | iamhef: cladhaire is right, there is time limitation over there |
| 19:28.49 | KaoS` | asd |
| 19:29.05 | iamhef | oh ok |
| 19:29.06 | cladhaire | its really nice on my MBP |
| 19:29.19 | cladhaire | and the difference between live and beta is definitely noticable. |
| 19:29.30 | KaoS` | yeah I have a MBP too |
| 19:29.41 | KaoS` | I hear it is kinda amazing in the FPS increase. |
| 19:30.29 | Puni | will "nil~=1" evaluate to true ? |
| 19:30.32 | iamhef | yes |
| 19:30.42 | Puni | goodie |
| 19:30.50 | iamhef | nil is nil :) |
| 19:30.54 | bljakk | :D |
| 19:31.18 | Puni | java would probably get a heart attack from a statement like that :) |
| 19:31.38 | iamhef | why's that? null is null in java |
| 19:31.54 | bljakk | well, lua is c written, c doesnt get heart attack on (NULL != 1) |
| 19:33.41 | Puni | What's the common practice on borrowing code from other addons? Ask before releasing, or just credit? |
| 19:34.04 | bljakk | i think people are happy with credit |
| 19:34.07 | Neuro_Medivh | Depends on how much and in what context |
| 19:34.29 | Neuro_Medivh | just remember: Good artists borrow, but great artists steal =) |
| 19:34.43 | Cide | if you're borrowing a sizable amount and/or a very "unique" part, always ask |
| 19:34.55 | Tem | otherwise you're breaking copyright |
| 19:35.00 | Tem | and that's bad, mkay |
| 19:35.11 | Cide | what Tem said |
| 19:35.13 | Puni | Just boring parsing functions |
| 19:35.23 | Tem | what kind of parsing functions? |
| 19:35.28 | cladhaire | boring parsing fucntions could have taken the author a month to write |
| 19:35.32 | cladhaire | so that's naive =) |
| 19:35.37 | Tem | *nod* |
| 19:35.40 | Neuro_Medivh | parsing is a pain in the ass to write |
| 19:35.49 | Tem | I hate parsing so much |
| 19:35.52 | cladhaire | text parsing may be sexy in lua.. but that doesn' make it EASY |
| 19:36.04 | Puni | like going through buff names searchinf for a string |
| 19:36.17 | cladhaire | i.e. IsBuffActive()? |
| 19:36.18 | bljakk | can you copy the parsing line? |
| 19:36.25 | Neuro_Medivh | Then definately credit Tyndral |
| 19:36.33 | Neuro_Medivh | if you're taking IsBuffActive |
| 19:39.27 | bljakk | I wish some gm would be more active in eur Ui forum |
| 19:39.41 | bljakk | Aeus is looking there every second year |
| 19:39.43 | cladhaire | gm's dont' post in the forums. |
| 19:39.53 | bljakk | i mean, cm |
| 19:39.54 | Tain | You don't want GMs in the forums. |
| 19:39.59 | cladhaire | =-) |
| 19:40.09 | bljakk | i dont want them at all, thats not the point ;) |
| 19:40.15 | Tain | And the UI forum has the most active official support of any game forum of any game, ever. |
| 19:40.26 | Kaso | bljakk Aeus doesnt even know much about addons, he tries to be helpful but usually cant anwser things |
| 19:40.56 | Neuro_Medivh | Tain, he means the Euro forums |
| 19:41.00 | Tain | Oh. |
| 19:41.05 | bljakk | Not in EU Forums |
| 19:41.06 | Tain | Well no one likes Euros. |
| 19:41.18 | Puni | This code: http://wowi.pastey.net/2388 |
| 19:41.19 | Cide | truth. |
| 19:41.22 | Cide | err.. hi |
| 19:41.29 | bljakk | I'd like to have someone like Slouken |
| 19:41.37 | Cide | there is only one slouken |
| 19:41.48 | Tain | Yeah it is a shame. |
| 19:42.04 | bljakk | Cide: Thats is very sad for the EU community |
| 19:42.09 | Tain | Slouken is the exception to the rule. |
| 19:42.52 | Tain | Unfortunately the only thing to do is ask someone to post on the US forum. |
| 19:43.06 | Tain | Which people are happy to do, but it is too bad that it has to go that way. |
| 19:43.10 | bljakk | Puni: did you take whole code from here, or just the function Trinketlol_GetItemName(item) ? |
| 19:43.30 | bljakk | Yea, kinda global forum would have rocked actually |
| 19:43.34 | Kaso | Puni |
| 19:43.52 | Puni | bljakk: those 3 snippets, from 3 different addons |
| 19:43.55 | Tain | That is what you get for not being born in North America. |
| 19:44.04 | Kaso | i dont think that'll work 100%, doesnt the AV Frostwolf not have Mount_ in its name |
| 19:44.26 | cladhaire | why do you need it? why not just use IsMounted() |
| 19:44.26 | cladhaire | ? |
| 19:44.33 | bljakk | Puni: if these are form 3 different addons, i think credits are fine, tho if it would be from one, than i'd ask |
| 19:44.55 | Puni | cladhaire: good question, wasn't aware of that function |
| 19:45.01 | cladhaire | its not in live.. but its in beta |
| 19:45.04 | cladhaire | or will be |
| 19:45.10 | Kaso | Puni ignore what i said, |
| 19:45.14 | cladhaire | depends on how/what/where you want your code to work =) |
| 19:45.32 | cladhaire | and you could always do if not IsMounted then IsMounted = function() -- the other stuff here ewnd |
| 19:45.33 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 19:45.40 | Tain | Will it work with a mouse? Will it work in a house? |
| 19:46.44 | bljakk | Isn't buff amount going ot be raised in tbc? |
| 19:47.02 | Puni | sure hope debuff amount will be raised at least |
| 19:47.06 | cladhaire | 40 buffs/debuffs |
| 19:47.10 | cladhaire | well 40 debuffs. |
| 19:47.32 | Puni | think about the effect of shadow priests in raids, 3 debuffs per :P |
| 19:47.47 | Cide | just do a while ( true ) do .. loop |
| 19:47.58 | Cide | more efficient and supports as many buffs as you have |
| 19:48.36 | Puni | true that |
| 19:49.22 | Kaso | or false as the case may be :> |
| 19:49.26 | iamhef | i'm not sure if you were making an infinite loop joke or being serious about the efficient part... but you still have to check for an exit condition somewhere so it's no more efficient order of complexity wise |
| 19:50.00 | cladhaire | no, but its not limited without reason |
| 19:50.08 | Cide | iamhef: it is more efficient than his example, since he doesn't break out and thus calls UnitBuff 24 times, regardless of buff amount |
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| 19:50.14 | cladhaire | truth is, no one knows how many buffs there are |
| 19:50.19 | cladhaire | so keep looking until you dont get a return |
| 19:50.25 | iamhef | cladhaire: i'll second that |
| 19:50.31 | iamhef | :D |
| 19:50.47 | Puni | lua has a do-while statement, raait ? |
| 19:50.53 | bljakk | of course |
| 19:51.33 | bljakk | well, not do-while. but the while-do |
| 19:51.33 | Cide | repeat ... until ( ... ) |
| 19:51.50 | Neuro_Medivh | Yes.. just be careful and don't loop yourself to death =) |
| 19:52.02 | zenzelezz | that goes for any loop statement |
| 19:52.02 | Tain | I've often wanted to be able to do something like repeat ... until (IsNotStupid("player")) |
| 19:52.30 | Tain | Then again, we do want to worry about infinite loops. |
| 19:52.50 | cladhaire | ok |
| 19:52.53 | cladhaire | i'm headed back to my house |
| 19:53.04 | bljakk | Tain: its not infinite, it would just go through all players on server ;) |
| 19:53.05 | Cide | I thought you did that an hour ago :) |
| 19:53.11 | cladhaire | no, I was going to my parents house =) |
| 19:53.13 | cladhaire | now i'm on my way back |
| 19:53.16 | Cide | ah, haha |
| 19:53.25 | Tain | Sitting online chatting with people at your parents' |
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| 20:03.33 | Amadeo | cladhaire: You must have used your Gnomish Transport thing |
| 20:04.31 | cladhaire | or drove the three blocks =) |
| 20:05.03 | Amadeo | Don't deny it, you're a gnome irl! |
| 20:05.08 | cladhaire | this is true |
| 20:05.13 | cladhaire | i have skreenshotz |
| 20:05.21 | Amadeo | photoshopped |
| 20:05.29 | cladhaire | i have fraps |
| 20:05.48 | Amadeo | nice |
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| 20:55.01 | Mike-N-Go | 'Ello |
| 20:55.29 | Teomyr | hiya |
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| 20:55.34 | Mike-N-Go | I have some questions about hex, and GBG for coloring text in the chat frame. |
| 20:56.21 | Mike-N-Go | If the format is |cAARRGGBB for hex, then where does the "AA" go for R, G, B format? |
| 20:57.12 | Teomyr | i'm not familiar with this |
| 20:57.19 | Teomyr | could the AA be the alpha value? |
| 20:57.27 | Teomyr | for transparency |
| 20:58.05 | Mike-N-Go | Alpha, or so I hear. |
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| 21:00.59 | Puni | yes |
| 21:01.48 | Esamynn | you know, I just started wondering, under the new Honor system, what is going to happen to the PvP discount you currently get at rank 2 or 3? |
| 21:01.58 | Mike-N-Go | How do you convert '|cAARRGGBB' to "R, G, B" |
| 21:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | It's going away soon-ish |
| 21:02.49 | Esamynn | has that been confirmed? |
| 21:03.09 | Mike-N-Go | Esamynn: Buy all the goods now, stock up for the long winter! |
| 21:04.30 | Teomyr | Mike-N-Go: they're hexadecimal values, you'll need to convert them, but don't ask me how |
| 21:05.58 | Mike-N-Go | Because I can't figure out how to get '|cAARRGGBB' to work in AddMessage() |
| 21:06.24 | Puni | can you use intermediate color values? I though it was just 00 or FF |
| 21:07.59 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.javascripter.net/faq/hextorgb.htm |
| 21:08.06 | Mike-N-Go | Found something :) |
| 21:08.42 | Mike-N-Go | Puni: I don't know what you mean, I just started lua programming a week ago. |
| 21:10.03 | Puni | Hmm... addon that scans every line of chat for a pattern... something like 30 code lines, would it be considered processor intensive for a useless addon? |
| 21:10.30 | Cide | 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B, C, D, E, F |
| 21:10.33 | Cide | 0-15 |
| 21:10.51 | Cide | multiply first letter's value by 15 |
| 21:10.53 | Cide | err |
| 21:11.03 | Cide | damnit |
| 21:11.17 | Mike-N-Go | Why does programming things start at 0, when counting... |
| 21:11.27 | Cide | my enter key is treating me badly today |
| 21:12.20 | Mike-N-Go | My IRC client locked up :) You don't have it to bad. I would not allow me to insert text... the text insertion point. |
| 21:12.20 | Cide | multiply first letter's value by 16, and then add the second letter's value |
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| 21:12.30 | Cide | gets you a value from 0 to 255 |
| 21:12.50 | Mike-N-Go | How do you multiply the letters? |
| 21:13.04 | Mike-N-Go | Just put a coefficient? |
| 21:13.11 | Puni | A=10, B=11, etc. i guess |
| 21:13.56 | Mike-N-Go | Oh |
| 21:13.57 | Cide | local convert = { A = 10, B = 11, C = 12, D = 13, E = 14, F = 15 } ... ( convert[letter1] or tonumber(letter1) ) * 16 + ( convert[letter2] or tonumber(letter2) ) |
| 21:14.19 | Mike-N-Go | What is this tonumber? |
| 21:14.26 | Cide | converts a string to a number |
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| 21:14.35 | Mike-N-Go | Wow. |
| 21:16.33 | Mike-N-Go | As in --DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Testing", 1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 123); Why are there 4 sets of RBG values? |
| 21:17.22 | Tem | r,g,b,a |
| 21:17.47 | Mike-N-Go | Humm. |
| 21:18.39 | Puni | you can do it both ways |
| 21:19.09 | Mike-N-Go | Are they called Escape Sequences because the escape chars from being treated as there char, not there syntax with "\"? |
| 21:19.15 | Puni | | works as an escape character in your text string, or you can specify color code for the whole message i think using paramters, which are optional |
| 21:20.17 | Puni | Mike-N-Go: didn't understand the last part of your sentence |
| 21:20.47 | Mike-N-Go | Me neither. |
| 21:21.14 | Puni | but i think you can do like AddMessage("|cFFFF0000Tes|cFF00FF00ting"); |
| 21:21.15 | Mike-N-Go | As in \" |
| 21:21.50 | Mike-N-Go | That prevents " from being treated how it should in the syntax. |
| 21:22.06 | Puni | ah yes, escape character |
| 21:24.20 | Mike-N-Go | What am I doing wrong?--DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("TEST") .60, .60, .60, 123); It displays errors |
| 21:24.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Mike-N-Go, you need another ( |
| 21:24.38 | Mike-N-Go | Where? |
| 21:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("TEST") .60, .60, .60, 123); |
| 21:24.50 | ScytheBlade1 | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage((TEST") .60, .60, .60, 123); |
| 21:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, there |
| 21:25.00 | ScytheBlade1 | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(("TEST") .60, .60, .60, 123); |
| 21:25.02 | Mike-N-Go | Wich one? |
| 21:25.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid insert button |
| 21:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Last line |
| 21:25.13 | Mike-N-Go | Thankies |
| 21:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Read it carefully and compare with yours |
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| 21:25.39 | Mike-N-Go | Humm, why is there not a closing ")" |
| 21:26.01 | ScytheBlade1 | There is |
| 21:26.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Again, read it carefully |
| 21:26.16 | Mike-N-Go | Why are there 2 "(" then? |
| 21:27.22 | zenzelezz | count the )s |
| 21:27.29 | zenzelezz | you'll find two of those too |
| 21:27.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I just realized that my example is still wrong |
| 21:27.58 | Mike-N-Go | Yup |
| 21:28.05 | Mike-N-Go | It does not pass with --/run |
| 21:28.31 | ScytheBlade1 | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("TEST", .60, .60, .60, 123); |
| 21:29.09 | Mike-N-Go | Humm, that is intresting, seperating it by a "," |
| 21:29.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Just like any other parameter |
| 21:30.22 | Mike-N-Go | Why does FRAME:AddMessage(%22TEST want to be a link? |
| 21:30.53 | Mike-N-Go | Now, to find a good color for my addon. |
| 21:31.51 | Mike-N-Go | Thankies |
| 21:33.25 | Mike-N-Go | Heh, .187, .187, .187, 123, can hardly see it with that. |
| 21:33.46 | Mike-N-Go | Thank you for answering my nubi question. |
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| 21:35.10 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go, that's dark gray |
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| 21:36.34 | Mike-N-Go | What do I set the alpha to so I can see it? |
| 21:36.42 | Cide | alpha is 0-1 too |
| 21:36.49 | X-Term | guys i got a lill question here ... want to finish my addon.. im not good in xml at all but i do know my way around lua .... |
| 21:36.53 | Cide | not sure why you are passing 123 :) |
| 21:37.15 | Mike-N-Go | it is a easy to press, there right next to each other. |
| 21:37.33 | X-Term | question is as follows: ive made a frame that apare in game but how can i insert messages into that frame ... i probably used the wrong kinda frame .. |
| 21:39.39 | X-Term | oh well was worth asking i guess |
| 21:41.01 | Mike-N-Go | How do I chose something that is not all dark? |
| 21:43.01 | ckknight | 0 is black, 1 is white |
| 21:43.14 | ckknight | so 1,1,1 would give white, 1,0,0 would give red |
| 21:43.16 | ckknight | and such |
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| 22:02.10 | Puni | uhm anyone know the prefix GEM uses for it's control messages ? |
| 22:02.23 | Shadowed | maybe it's GEM! |
| 22:03.16 | Puni | lolol |
| 22:03.46 | Shadowed | i'm serious, it probably is |
| 22:04.22 | Puni | i know |
| 22:04.45 | Shadowed | It's GEM2 |
| 22:04.45 | Puni | trying to find a non-deserted GEM chan now :) |
| 22:05.04 | Shadowed | but it's using the sendaddon messages |
| 22:05.54 | Puni | <GEMversionnumber> it seems |
| 22:05.55 | X-Term | any1 able to explain me how to get text i got in my lua file to apear on the frame i made? |
| 22:07.30 | Cide | does anyone know roughly what the maximum resolution you can run wow in is? that is, with dual monitors on some insane resolution on each? |
| 22:08.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably pretty high. |
| 22:08.42 | Teomyr | isn't there a forum post on this topic? |
| 22:08.51 | Teomyr | i mean dual-screen |
| 22:10.08 | Teomyr | http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4153/3fd4.jpg |
| 22:10.24 | Teomyr | this one says 3200x1200 |
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| 22:11.09 | Amadeo | Kirkburn: rofl |
| 22:11.09 | Teomyr | :D |
| 22:11.09 | Cide | thanks Teomyr |
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| 22:11.09 | Kirkburn | (he just spammed me accidentely =) |
| 22:11.10 | Teomyr | np |
| 22:11.10 | Kirkburn | Oh, well hello there! |
| 22:11.25 | Amadeo | Cide: I know I get about 20 FPS in Tarren Mill at 1280x960, with graphics turned down :P |
| 22:11.49 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:15.28 | Puni | For the "GetSpellCooldown(spellID,"bookType");", how do I find spellID ? |
| 22:16.02 | cladhaire | they start at 1 in the spellbook, and go to whatever the highest number is |
| 22:16.06 | cladhaire | you typically walk the spellbook to find it. |
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| 22:17.44 | Puni | so you first have to count general, and then the spells for each of your trees ? |
| 22:18.21 | Puni | so like protection for warriors is number of general spells/passive effects + arms spells + fury spells + number of previous protection spells ? |
| 22:18.31 | cladhaire | yes |
| 22:18.38 | Puni | gee what a pita |
| 22:18.40 | cladhaire | Clique_HealSelect.lua probably has what you need |
| 22:18.44 | cladhaire | its really straightforward |
| 22:18.47 | Puni | ah good |
| 22:18.52 | Puni | i've got that addon |
| 22:18.56 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Clique/CliqueUtils.lua |
| 22:19.04 | cladhaire | Clique:ScanSpellbook() |
| 22:19.08 | zenzelezz | Patchwerk hurts :-| |
| 22:19.13 | Shadowed | haha |
| 22:19.17 | Shadowed | started him have we? :p |
| 22:22.41 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 22:22.54 | zenzelezz | cleared the trash around him once before, for the quest, but tonight was the first real try |
| 22:23.04 | zenzelezz | he doesn't seem to agree with us so far on who is the MT |
| 22:23.06 | Shadowed | yeah, he's fun |
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| 22:31.08 | Cairenn | wheee, net split |
| 22:31.08 | Teomyr | wow :D |
| 22:31.08 | Kaso | lag |
| 22:31.09 | zenzelezz | I don't know, but it does seem like Patchwerk is the last milestone before Four Horsemen |
| 22:31.09 | zenzelezz | then again, I'm a warrior... I don't know stuff |
| 22:31.09 | Shadowed | er |
| 22:31.09 | Shadowed | up to 4H actually :p |
| 22:31.09 | Kaso | from our attemps at Gothik, he seems much harder |
| 22:31.09 | Puni | I don't understand why guilds don't use druid tanks at patchwerk |
| 22:31.09 | Shadowed | because with potions warriors have the same mitigation as druids |
| 22:31.10 | zenzelezz | Shadowed: so four horsemen isn't as hard as they say? |
| 22:31.10 | Shadowed | no, but 4H is harder then sapph |
| 22:31.10 | zenzelezz | Puni: parry |
| 22:31.10 | Shadowed | and it's easier to get a warrior equipped for tanking then a druid |
| 22:31.10 | Puni | armor & hp >>> all at that fight |
| 22:32.03 | nevcairiel | parry is way better |
| 22:32.03 | zenzelezz | Shadowed: true, Sapphiron did seem to go down much faster than the horsemen |
| 22:32.03 | Shadowed | Dodging/Parrying is a HS > Armor |
| 22:32.04 | zenzelezz | not taking damage > taking damage |
| 22:32.04 | Puni | well when he can oneshot you if you don't have enough hp/armor, i really think they are more important |
| 22:32.04 | Shadowed | Flasks |
| 22:32.04 | Shadowed | theres no benifit to using a druid, and it's a lot more complicated in the end |
| 22:32.04 | Puni | and those two stats come so easily for druids, whereas a warrior must be potted to the teeth for the enocunter, unless he's in 5+ dn |
| 22:32.04 | Kaso | the major problem with druids is stonescale pots |
| 22:32.04 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 22:32.04 | nevcairiel | you cannot drink a new stonescale without shifting out, which sucks |
| 22:32.04 | Puni | most endgame geared druids have 75% mitigation raid buffed i would think |
| 22:32.05 | Shadowed | No SW, can't pop potions/HS, Warriors can get the same/close mitigation on PW as Druids can, Parry. And it's simply easier if you lose a warrior to get a new one geared as a PW tank then a druid |
| 22:32.05 | nevcairiel | most endgame geared druids are resto tbh |
| 22:32.05 | Puni | well they all get the drood loot from aq40 :) |
| 22:32.52 | Shadowed | yeah, but in general it's far far easier to gear up Warriors to tank then Druids |
| 22:32.52 | Puni | i've heard about druids with 21k armor, lol |
| 22:33.43 | Shadowed | i was somewhat undergeared when i first was tanking PW, that was fun |
| 22:33.43 | Shadowed | Think I was in something like 7/8 wrath, ZG BP, meh rings, ZG shield, QS! |
| 22:34.29 | Shadowed | it's a lot more "do your healers suck" over "do you have the tanks" |
| 22:35.44 | nevcairiel | its both |
| 22:36.23 | Shadowed | it's both, but if your healers suck, having everyone in 9/9 DN, FoD, ect wont help you |
| 22:36.24 | X-Term | any1 here able to help me with sending messages to frames ? |
| 22:36.39 | Shadowed | certainly theres a minimum gear level you need, but you can fix most of that with some extra potions until they have the gear |
| 22:36.48 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 22:37.23 | nevcairiel | we went to loatheb today with a 15k hp tank, we got some world buffs .. and we got our first kill, and gothik server first direct after that, good day, it was .) |
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| 22:37.52 | Teomyr | nice :D |
| 22:37.57 | Shadowed | Loatheb is fun! lets of big numbers |
| 22:38.19 | nevcairiel | now we only have the 4H left, and i think thats going to take a while :) |
| 22:38.23 | Esamynn|working | hmm, iirc, we start Gluth tonight ;) |
| 22:38.48 | Shadowed | 4H isn't that bad, depends mostly on how well your raid can cordinate together in little job s |
| 22:39.24 | Tem | oh wow |
| 22:39.28 | Tem | you can drink potions in cat form now |
| 22:39.29 | Shadowed | ? |
| 22:39.31 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 22:39.39 | Esamynn|working | what?!?!!?1 |
| 22:39.40 | Shadowed | drink potions, interact with people, procs work in form, ect |
| 22:40.09 | wereHamster | in WoW 2.0, is it possible to make keybindings that are always active and that will be always executed even if I have my chat EditBox open? |
| 22:40.36 | Esamynn|working | Shadowed: well, I don't spend much time in cat form so I never really discovered that |
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| 22:41.06 | Shadowed | it's in all forms |
| 22:41.26 | Esamynn|working | that's new |
| 22:41.31 | Esamynn|working | as of like this last patch |
| 22:41.36 | Shadowed | yeah, was added in the last patch i believe |
| 22:41.45 | Esamynn|working | I haven't played much this patch |
| 22:41.51 | Tem | wereHamster, no |
| 22:42.20 | nevcairiel | interact in forms? finally |
| 22:42.26 | Tem | my only druid is a low level alt that I transfered in a few days ago so that I could play with the state stuff |
| 22:42.45 | nevcairiel | i need to transfer my lowlvl warrior for actionbar testing |
| 22:42.58 | wereHamster | is it possible to change the chat editbox to respond only to 'unmodified' keys? (eg. no alt-q, ctrl-w, ctrl-alt-e) ? |
| 22:43.05 | nevcairiel | its lvl 31, so at least i got all stances :D |
| 22:43.07 | Tem | no |
| 22:43.42 | Esamynn|working | interaction and item use in forms is HUGE!!!!! |
| 22:44.28 | wereHamster | so chatting while actively participating in a combat will be possible only for click-casters :( |
| 22:44.48 | Shadowed | type faster :p |
| 22:45.13 | wereHamster | I have 1.5 seconds to type the text.. |
| 22:45.25 | nevcairiel | type shorter |
| 22:45.26 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 22:45.30 | wereHamster | :( |
| 22:45.43 | nevcairiel | i manage to do that in naxx while healing |
| 22:45.46 | nevcairiel | so you can do it! |
| 22:45.48 | Shadowed | I type while tanking |
| 22:46.00 | Shadowed | should have rolled a Warrior |
| 22:46.07 | wereHamster | I'm a tank, too.. |
| 22:46.30 | AnduinLothar | type everything beforehand and macro them |
| 22:46.37 | AnduinLothar | or use vent |
| 22:47.17 | Shadowed | "l2tank" |
| 22:47.21 | wereHamster | but in my raid, if I miss twice or don't use a threat skills every 1.5 seconds, a mage/hunter/warlock gets aggro and we wipe |
| 22:47.34 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 22:47.39 | Shadowed | you're Horde? |
| 22:47.42 | wereHamster | no |
| 22:47.54 | AnduinLothar | noobs |
| 22:47.58 | Shadowed | tell your paladins to stop being slackers |
| 22:48.07 | AnduinLothar | salvation ftw |
| 22:48.14 | AnduinLothar | the #1 most whined about buff |
| 22:48.26 | wereHamster | just today at vael, I 'miss, parry, hit, miss, dodge' at the very beginning of the fight and we wiped |
| 22:48.33 | Shadowed | I like letting the casters die anyway |
| 22:48.37 | Tem | also, if your mages are pulling agro, kill yourself |
| 22:48.40 | Shadowed | well, you're casters are idiots anyway |
| 22:48.50 | Shadowed | because they shouldn't be starting before sunders and such are on |
| 22:48.54 | AnduinLothar | #2 being fort, #3rd being AI, #4rth being kings, #5th being FR aura |
| 22:49.04 | Puni | get KLH :) |
| 22:49.10 | Tem | NO |
| 22:49.15 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 22:49.20 | Shadowed | ~lart Puni |
| 22:49.22 | wereHamster | yeah.. the wlocks had CoE on vael one second after the encounter began.. |
| 22:49.31 | AnduinLothar | early buffing |
| 22:49.47 | AnduinLothar | = fail on vael |
| 22:49.49 | Shadowed | putting CoE on early is fine....attacking a boss without any sunders on isn't! |
| 22:49.50 | Puni | hehe I hear addon creators hate it cause of the control message spam ? |
| 22:50.06 | AnduinLothar | yeah, it spams liek a mofo |
| 22:50.07 | Shadowed | no, because it's a stupid mod |
| 22:50.10 | Tem | 30% threat reduction from Talents + 30% Threat reduction from salvation = if a mage pulls aggro, the tank better be dead or the tank is a noob |
| 22:50.18 | Shadowed | well, it's not 60% remember |
| 22:50.33 | Shadowed | but yeah, 49% reduction is still more then enough |
| 22:51.53 | AnduinLothar | so.. now pallies can tank and dps and heal... we can have a raid of pallies and priests... and the priests can all smite with crusader and sanctity for ranged damage :) |
| 22:54.00 | wereHamster | paladin and DPS? |
| 22:54.05 | AnduinLothar | in 2.0 |
| 22:54.13 | Tem | (well, rolling ignites do allow a mage to pull agro even in the "lawl I don't worry about threat" state of mages, but not in BWL) |
| 22:54.41 | AnduinLothar | i DPS now, but it's very gear dependant and i've been collecting various dps for 1.5 yrs |
| 22:55.05 | AnduinLothar | in 2.0 the holy damage is increased a lot |
| 22:55.14 | AnduinLothar | almost imba |
| 22:55.29 | AnduinLothar | esp w/o a resistance |
| 22:56.16 | AnduinLothar | with 200 spell damage on Rightiousness was increasing my 2h attacks by 300+ |
| 22:56.33 | wereHamster | oh.. I can use the mouse buttons.. they are not intercepted by the chat editbox, right? |
| 22:56.43 | AnduinLothar | plus consecration ticks for 100 with crussader judged or sanctity |
| 22:59.28 | AnduinLothar | and then you judge for 600-800 every 8-10s |
| 23:01.14 | AnduinLothar | added to 300-500 swings with my OEB and like 20% crit.. |
| 23:01.33 | AnduinLothar | at lvl 62 |
| 23:01.54 | AnduinLothar | i'm fairly confident that if I keep going for dps gear i can compete with rogues |
| 23:03.56 | Puni | omg epic sunday, the LOL-collection of addons has started today |
| 23:08.55 | AnduinLothar | heh, i don't mind KLH. It's valid feedback information, that doesn't actually do anything automaticly. It's just bad to get dependant on it |
| 23:09.24 | AnduinLothar | I once pulled ago on Nef and tanked a few seconds while the MT was feared |
| 23:10.21 | AnduinLothar | i would have died if i hadn't known i was going to and switched to swd and board |
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| 23:11.02 | Puni | wow, this bossmod looks neat, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5530-1-imba.html |
| 23:11.26 | Puni | taccs sketchboard with syncing options, area planning etc. |
| 23:12.13 | AnduinLothar | it's ike footbaall with a larger team |
| 23:12.50 | AnduinLothar | looks liek it needs and auto-arrow function |
| 23:13.09 | Puni | heh |
| 23:17.54 | Tem | it looks like someone who won't be able to keep up with BigWigs for new content |
| 23:19.16 | Cide | how so? |
| 23:19.58 | wereHamster | Tem, the keybindings CTRL-?, ALT-? and CTRL-ALT-? don't touch the editbox.. I can use those for my speedpad :) |
| 23:20.18 | Tem | you sure? |
| 23:20.34 | Tem | they used to, this might be a new thing |
| 23:20.55 | Tem | editbox up: "CTRL-B" doesn't work |
| 23:21.22 | Tem | wereHamster, editboxes are "EnableKeyboard" true |
| 23:21.32 | Tem | so whenever they are visible they eat ALL keypresses |
| 23:21.40 | wereHamster | you're right :( |
| 23:22.06 | Shadowed | Cide: Think Tem means it's someone whos trying to compete with fancy featuressince they wont be able to release bossmods for the newest bosses within 2-3 weeks of people getting there! |
| 23:22.08 | Tem | the best you can do is hook the editbox's OnKey* method and RunBinding |
| 23:22.28 | Cide | Shadowed: that depends entirely on how the API is |
| 23:22.59 | Tem | Shadowed, it's not so much about the features |
| 23:23.02 | Tem | it's accuracy |
| 23:23.11 | Tem | BigWigs has lots of people coding and testing for it |
| 23:23.18 | Shadowed | it's a pretty poor API |
| 23:23.20 | Tem | (in independent raids) |
| 23:23.33 | Shadowed | every boss mod is basically just an addon inside the IMBA folder |
| 23:23.37 | Cide | as long as you're able to get to the new content, accuracy is usually not a problem, Tem |
| 23:23.41 | Shadowed | (LUA/XML/OnEvent/OnLoad/ect) |
| 23:23.52 | Tem | Cide, well yes that's what I'm saying |
| 23:24.10 | Tem | the more people you have getting to the new content to log it, the more accurate you can be |
| 23:24.13 | Cide | what several people have going for them is that they can plow through content collectively |
| 23:24.19 | Cide | no, that's not what I meant |
| 23:24.25 | wereHamster | so my last chance are mouse buttons - I hope WoW does support more then five |
| 23:24.39 | Cide | if our guild gets to a boss, it's usually not a big deal to figure out the timers on stuff |
| 23:24.54 | Cide | if it varies, then it will vary and you can't make it more accurate than an approximation anyway |
| 23:24.57 | Plorkyeran | I don't think windows supports more than 5 mouse buttons |
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| 23:25.16 | Cide | Plorkyeran: logitech drivers support more than 8 |
| 23:25.19 | Cide | more than 5* |
| 23:25.32 | Plorkyeran | But not as mouse buttons |
| 23:25.43 | Plorkyeran | They don't let you set buttons to things like "Button 6" |
| 23:25.46 | Tem | *shrug* I've never written a bossmod so I really don't know |
| 23:26.00 | Cide | Plorkyeran: maybe not, but if the drivers are good they can make that transparent |
| 23:26.17 | Tem | but I really get the feeling that the sheer amount of people contributing to BigWigs will be a huge advantage |
| 23:26.29 | Cide | Tem: oh, it will |
| 23:26.40 | Cide | because more people can access more content faster |
| 23:26.47 | Tem | *nod* |
| 23:26.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide, even then, WoW only has code for 5 buttons |
| 23:26.48 | Cide | some guilds might be stuck on boss X whereas others are at boss Y |
| 23:26.58 | Plorkyeran | Sorta transparent, but you still have to treat the buttons as some other form of input if the OS only supports 5 |
| 23:27.09 | Plorkyeran | Which could cause problems if you try to do it transparently |
| 23:27.13 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: true, I suppose it wouldn't work if he wants to access bindings when an editbox is up |
| 23:27.39 | Tem | wereHamster, what kind of bindings do you want to run while an editbox is up? |
| 23:28.11 | wereHamster | I have this: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=157024 |
| 23:28.40 | wereHamster | and I'm trying to configure teh buttions to allow me to cast spells while chatting |
| 23:28.49 | Plorkyeran | WoW doesn't support gamepads? |
| 23:29.13 | bljakk | depend on gamepad |
| 23:29.13 | Plorkyeran | That'd give you plenty of buttons if the drivers and WoW support it |
| 23:29.42 | wereHamster | Plorkyeran, through which API? |
| 23:30.16 | Plorkyeran | Joystick stuff? |
| 23:30.32 | bljakk | Joystick? |
| 23:30.37 | wereHamster | that would probably be DirectInput? |
| 23:30.59 | Plorkyeran | I'd assume DI has it, but no idea if WoW supports it |
| 23:32.11 | X-Term | any1 here able to help me with sending messages to frames ? |
| 23:32.27 | wereHamster | ... even if it did, I doubt wine would support that, and I'm not really into hacking wine any more. I've had enough while rewriting dsound. |
| 23:32.33 | X-Term | from the lua file ..... |
| 23:32.50 | bljakk | X-Term: what do you mean with sending messages? |
| 23:33.20 | wereHamster | SendMessage(hWND, ...) ? |
| 23:33.33 | X-Term | i have a variable in lua thats get uppdated .... and i want that variable to show up in my xml frame |
| 23:33.59 | bljakk | X-Term: How to show up? |
| 23:34.13 | X-Term | send it to the frame |
| 23:34.16 | X-Term | like text |
| 23:34.17 | wereHamster | X-Term, who updates the variable |
| 23:34.37 | X-Term | the lua file uppdate it on_event |
| 23:34.51 | X-Term | that part works i can send the message on a tell to myselfe |
| 23:35.07 | X-Term | but i want the message in the frame |
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| 23:35.52 | X-Term | hehe im probably bad at explaining stuff :) |
| 23:35.52 | wereHamster | create a FontString in the frame and use:SetText() |
| 23:36.29 | X-Term | hmm |
| 23:37.16 | X-Term | if the lua file sends a new message wont the old message get overwritten ? |
| 23:39.05 | wereHamster | lua can't 'send' new events (I guess by 'messages' you mean events..) |
| 23:40.26 | X-Term | thing is that i have several messages i want to display |
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| 23:41.13 | wereHamster | for each one, create a FontString, or use the template that the chatframes use |
| 23:41.17 | X-Term | can max be 40 messages (since thats the maximum of raid members) |
| 23:41.19 | Tem | so use a scrolling message frame? |
| 23:41.44 | X-Term | how do i impliment that ? |
| 23:41.49 | X-Term | thats what i want to know :D |
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| 23:42.49 | X-Term | lets say ... my lua file gets names for all the members in a raid .... now i want it on a xml frame displayed |
| 23:43.08 | X-Term | each person underneath each |
| 23:43.39 | wereHamster | <Frame name="XTermFrame" inherits="ScrollingMessageFrame"> ... </Frame> |
| 23:44.13 | X-Term | let me test |
| 23:44.29 | wereHamster | and then I think you can use XTermFrame:AddMessage() |
| 23:46.33 | X-Term | ok |
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| 23:53.22 | wereHamster | Plorkyeran, do you have any idea how buttons > 5 work in windows? |
| 23:54.26 | X-Term | cant get the messages to display :) |
| 23:55.18 | X-Term | werehamster whuld i be able to uppload you my xml file so u can take a look at it = |
| 23:55.28 | X-Term | ? |
| 23:55.45 | Plorkyeran | AFAIK they don't work |
| 23:56.00 | wereHamster | X-Term, wow.pastey.net |
| 23:56.15 | wereHamster | err.. http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
| 23:56.22 | wereHamster | it's in the topic |
| 23:57.04 | Plorkyeran | I've never seen any drivers or programs that support Button6+, at least |
| 23:58.21 | X-Term | http://wow.pastey.net/2392 |
| 23:58.26 | X-Term | :D |
| 23:59.33 | wereHamster | X-Term, looks fine to me |
