| 00:00.31 | Mery | no more setn and getn (now #tablename ) will return the index of the field before the first nil (going 1, 2, 3, 4...) (if i understood correct) |
| 00:00.58 | Kaso | i see |
| 00:01.37 | cladhaire | table.maxn() will return the highest integer index, skipping gaps |
| 00:01.42 | Kaso | so t={"a","b","c",nil,"d"} #t == 3 |
| 00:02.05 | cladhaire | yes |
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| 00:07.38 | Maldivia | arghh... |
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| 00:09.13 | Thunder_Child | that good huh? |
| 00:10.10 | Maldivia | I HATE taint... |
| 00:10.54 | Thunder_Child | maybe, but i think you better learn to love it |
| 00:10.54 | cladhaire | hrm. |
| 00:10.58 | cladhaire | k |
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| 00:11.36 | Mery | Next Blizzzon they should do a Paintball comeptition for mod authors... |
| 00:11.42 | Mery | Blizzcon* |
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| 00:12.12 | Tem | zomg |
| 00:12.17 | Tem | it could be Ace vs Cosmos |
| 00:12.27 | Tem | I'd finally get my chance to nail AnduinLothar in the FACE! |
| 00:12.33 | cladhaire | I'm playing for Cosmos., |
| 00:12.38 | cladhaire | or making a Dongle team |
| 00:12.40 | cladhaire | imo |
| 00:13.20 | Mery | anyway I'm off to bed, good night |
| 00:13.32 | cladhaire | night Mery |
| 00:13.43 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 00:14.15 | Shadowed | they couldn't do paintball, I don't trust either of you to not try and pistol whip eachother |
| 00:14.42 | Tem | well it couldn't be CS... I'm too tempted to flash bang my own team |
| 00:14.57 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 00:15.07 | Maldivia | finally found my problem, with the spell book not accessible in combat... |
| 00:15.08 | Thunder_Child | i H.A.T.E. team fb'ing |
| 00:15.33 | Tem | Maldivia, UISpecialFrames |
| 00:15.49 | Tem | (or possibly someone messing with UIPanelWindows) |
| 00:15.52 | Shadowed | FIRE IN THE HOLE! |
| 00:15.56 | Shadowed | "DONT THROW IT YOU @#$)%(#ER!" |
| 00:16.01 | cladhaire | http://pwned.nl |
| 00:16.03 | Shadowed | Terroist win! |
| 00:16.26 | Shadowed | ah yes, that |
| 00:16.31 | Maldivia | Tem: nope, had hooked the SetLeftframe etc functions to move them... changing them to hooksecurefunc helped... although the spellbook is not located the wrong place in combat |
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| 00:17.17 | Naurbrannon | hi there |
| 00:17.19 | Naurbrannon | *sigh* |
| 00:18.13 | Maldivia | Tem: it really annoys me, that it's hardcoded :) |
| 00:18.15 | Naurbrannon | can anyone tell me why in http://www.wowi.pastey.net/2262 SetBindingClick isn't working but if I do it after load (using a function called via chat) it works? |
| 00:18.56 | Shadowed | prob requires a key press to use |
| 00:19.19 | Naurbrannon | and this only don't work if loaded from file, works if loaded from lua(don't remember name) addon |
| 00:20.42 | Naurbrannon | well...obviously keys are pressed <_< |
| 00:20.57 | Tem | Naurbrannon, keybindings are loaded sometime before PLAYER_LOGING |
| 00:21.07 | Tem | s/NG/N/ |
| 00:21.18 | Tem | anything you set before that is wiped |
| 00:21.29 | Naurbrannon | :/ |
| 00:21.55 | Tem | easy solution is to wait until PLAYER_LOGIN to set binding |
| 00:21.56 | Tem | s |
| 00:22.08 | Naurbrannon | but can I register the event player login and use setScript ? |
| 00:22.19 | Naurbrannon | without using xml I mean |
| 00:22.46 | Tem | yeah |
| 00:24.36 | Naurbrannon | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/2263 isn't working :/ |
| 00:25.12 | Naurbrannon | (new lines are 8, 9, 26, 29) |
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| 00:31.10 | Naurbrannon | mmm wait is isn't working with every event I register :O |
| 00:32.22 | Naurbrannon | is there maybe an error in the use of RegisterEvent or SetScript? |
| 00:32.43 | DocVanGogh | i think SecureStateDriverTemplate is using a secure onevent handler - better use another frame with your custom handler for arbitrary events |
| 00:33.18 | Naurbrannon | I'll try |
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| 00:34.49 | Naurbrannon | but in this case I suppose it shoule work and the SecureStateDriverTemplate events shoulsn't |
| 00:37.35 | Naurbrannon | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/2264 also not working, should bind the keys everytime I change target (the function Print does exist...somewhere else) |
| 00:38.42 | DocVanGogh | testing this with a live or bc client? |
| 00:38.50 | Naurbrannon | bc client ofc |
| 00:39.04 | DocVanGogh | doesnt bc use the new UNIT_TARGET events? |
| 00:39.20 | Naurbrannon | <_< trying |
| 00:40.42 | Naurbrannon | tried with PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED (that I'm sure is still the same event) and still not working T_T |
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| 00:43.06 | DocVanGogh | try putting the handler definition ahead of the SetScript("OnEvent"...) call - might be, that stancesBind is still considered nil |
| 00:44.34 | Naurbrannon | yeah! |
| 00:44.40 | Naurbrannon | great thanks a lot |
| 00:44.58 | Naurbrannon | I can no more use the function Print as probably the other addon is loaded later oO |
| 00:45.02 | Naurbrannon | but who cares |
| 00:45.43 | DocVanGogh | put in that 'other addon' as optional dep for yours as long as you debug things :) |
| 00:45.56 | Cairenn | unnnh, guys? |
| 00:46.02 | Cairenn | "All the US email address you provided me before Monday afternoon were sent out… the email can get picked up by spam blockers. " |
| 00:47.15 | DocVanGogh | what's a 'US email address' ? ;) |
| 00:47.53 | AnduinLothar | it's a US beta |
| 00:48.04 | AnduinLothar | EU beta has sepperate keys |
| 00:48.25 | DocVanGogh | i know ;) |
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| 00:49.01 | Tuller | sent out to where, exactly? :) |
| 00:49.23 | Cairenn | to the email address |
| 00:51.37 | wereHamster | http://dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/screenshot2.png - should I agree or not? :p |
| 00:51.42 | Tuller | that seems, odd |
| 00:51.56 | Naurbrannon | lol sure agree |
| 00:52.06 | Cairenn | The email address the keys will be arriving from is: |
| 00:52.07 | Cairenn | WoWExpansionBeta@blizzard.com |
| 00:52.41 | Thunder_Child | i dunno wereHamster, i dont like the look of thoes 9's |
| 00:53.14 | Tsikura | i dunno, those 4's seems sneaky |
| 00:53.49 | Thunder_Child | and that dingle | is far out of place |
| 00:53.52 | Thunder_Child | single* |
| 00:54.21 | Thunder_Child | looks like aeroglas |
| 00:54.36 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 00:54.42 | wereHamster | .. winecfg complained that I don't have a drive C: - I guess there's a problem with my windows installation |
| 00:54.43 | Tsikura | the comma at the top is hiding too |
| 00:55.02 | Tuller | I'm going to go with the theory of, 'Well we sent a huge amount of mail at once, and it somehow magically got flagged as spam and was completely blocked' |
| 00:57.12 | wereHamster | Thunder_Child, the theme is 'Scaled Black Mod' by DBO (http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=45402) |
| 00:59.15 | Thunder_Child | sweet, never could find a theme i liked for linux |
| 00:59.18 | Industrial | wereHamster: hm id prefer the plastic glaze thing to be horizontal |
| 00:59.25 | Industrial | =D |
| 00:59.35 | Tsikura | so is that like debug window for WINE? |
| 00:59.38 | Industrial | but that wouldnt mix right with text :( |
| 00:59.50 | Tsikura | in the back in blue :O |
| 01:03.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn, is that saying that all of the first batch has been sent out? |
| 01:04.15 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: that's what he is saying, yes |
| 01:04.31 | Cairenn | but it seems that NO US keys have arrived, anywhere, whether the ones through my site or others |
| 01:04.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn, funny thing, I run my own e-mail server and I can promise you it has no spam blocker :( |
| 01:05.01 | Shadowed | I've been searching my spam/trash for anything matching a blizzard sender and havn't seen anything in there |
| 01:05.05 | Industrial | i have 0 trash mail in gmail, and ive been checking every mail message since |
| 01:05.46 | Cairenn | WoWExpansionBeta@blizzard.com is the addy |
| 01:06.10 | zenzelezz | well she never said it WILL be in your trash/spam, just that they said it could possibly be |
| 01:06.32 | Industrial | yeah, but it isnt |
| 01:06.33 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:06.36 | ckknight | I think it may have been seen as spam outbound from Blizz or something. |
| 01:06.55 | Tuller | right |
| 01:06.57 | ScytheBlade1 | kyle@cerberus ~/.thunderbird/uawadi0h.default/Mail $ for a in `find ./ -type f`; do cat $a 2>/dev/null | grep "WoWExpansionBeta@blizzard.com"; done; |
| 01:06.57 | ScytheBlade1 | kyle@cerberus ~/.thunderbird/uawadi0h.default/Mail $ |
| 01:06.59 | Shadowed | that'd be ironic and amusing |
| 01:07.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not there. |
| 01:07.19 | wereHamster | Thunder_Child, gnome-look/kde-look has the biggest selection.. I'm sure you'll find something that you like |
| 01:07.23 | zenzelezz | you should go kill some murlocs or something to vent frustration, rather than giving Cairenn a hard time about it |
| 01:07.26 | Thunder_Child | hardly amusing for all of the ppl aganizing over it |
| 01:07.38 | Shadowed | Well, i'm one of the people waiting for it. So I still find it amusing :p |
| 01:07.54 | Thunder_Child | ah, the sick and twisted kind. Gratz |
| 01:08.00 | Shadowed | yep |
| 01:08.03 | Industrial | i dont cause its 2am again and im still checking my inbox - guess i dont learn |
| 01:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn, I have a few friends who got in the second and third batch, and they got their key days ago - in one case, monday morning |
| 01:09.10 | ScytheBlade1 | (US) |
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| 01:09.28 | zenzelezz | do you really think your lack of a key is somehow due to Cairenn? |
| 01:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Not at all |
| 01:09.53 | Industrial | zenzelezz: no ofcource not |
| 01:09.54 | Cairenn | I'm not taking it that folks are blaming me |
| 01:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | But if from what it seems, the first batch of US didn't get there - that's at least something to report back |
| 01:10.01 | Cairenn | I'm just trying to find out what the hell is going on |
| 01:10.20 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: lots of people did get it |
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| 01:11.11 | Naurbrannon | thanks a lot for help, that addon is finally complete and uploaded ^^ |
| 01:11.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. That rules that out then. |
| 01:12.00 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: another possibility is that their mailserver crashed and noone checked up on it - but thats highly doubtable :P |
| 01:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial, they're using Microsoft's mail server ;) |
| 01:12.38 | MikkWoW | huhu |
| 01:12.42 | cladhaire | Wow.. my spam folder has a good 150 emails from Blizzard.. it looks like i ended up getting cc:'d on a bunch of these.. *ponder* |
| 01:12.43 | Industrial | yeah, like i said, its highly doubtable that noone checked up on it |
| 01:12.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart cladhaire |
| 01:12.54 | Cairenn | rofl cladhaire |
| 01:13.01 | Industrial | cladhaire: are you fucking serious? |
| 01:13.07 | ckknight | gah, bugs in AceComm |
| 01:13.18 | Vallerius | lol |
| 01:13.19 | Industrial | hahahah |
| 01:13.25 | Tuller | I wanna say it was mostly EU players who received keys, and that there were a general lack of 'holy crap I'm in the beta' posts from people |
| 01:13.41 | MikkWoW | holy crap I'm in the beta! |
| 01:13.58 | Tuller | bah :P |
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| 01:14.04 | Thunder_Child | Gratz |
| 01:14.08 | Industrial | ~stab MikkWoW |
| 01:14.10 | purl | ACTION runs at MikkWoW with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 01:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn, all I know is this: I run my own mail server which accepts EVERYTHING, unconditionally. Further, several friends sent in later batches have recieved their keys, but likewise some of them have not (same batch). I have yet to get anything from that e-mail addy you posted, and nothing with "Burning Crusade" in the subject is sitting anywhere in my e-mail. |
| 01:16.35 | ScytheBlade1 | If that helps at all :) |
| 01:17.15 | Cairenn | yeah, I've sent another email to him, waiting to hear back /shrug |
| 01:17.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough. If need be, I can specify another addy, but hey |
| 01:19.25 | Industrial | s/thump/thumb/ |
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| 01:20.15 | zenzelezz | maybe it doesn't work with /me's |
| 01:20.23 | ckknight | fuck, AceComm has bugs |
| 01:20.44 | wereHamster | how long will 'Downloading Blizzard Scan' take? |
| 01:21.52 | jklaroe | shouldn't take long |
| 01:22.07 | Thunder_Child | interesting, that the bottom of one of the gold spamers it says "posted by Olgad Co,Ltd."......i think they are "farming out" the spaming |
| 01:22.12 | ckknight | ah, string.char changed in TBC |
| 01:22.20 | ckknight | string.char(123.6) == string.char(124) |
| 01:22.26 | Thunder_Child | s/that/at/ |
| 01:22.34 | ckknight | previously, string.char(123.6) == string.char(123) |
| 01:23.14 | wereHamster | jklaroe, by 'not long', do you mean less than ten minutes? |
| 01:23.27 | jklaroe | I just tried it, took likes 3 seconds to go away |
| 01:23.45 | jklaroe | we're talking about the dialog that pops up when you first load TBC, right? |
| 01:24.03 | wereHamster | yes |
| 01:24.14 | jklaroe | yea, only flashes on my screen for a second |
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| 01:33.34 | wereHamster | $ rm Scan.dll && touch Scan.dll && chmod 0000 Scan.dll |
| 01:33.40 | wereHamster | now I can start WoW :) |
| 01:34.20 | wereHamster | I really hope Scan.dll doesn't become a key component of the game (or required for teh game to run) |
| 01:35.12 | Thunder_Child | murphy |
| 01:35.37 | jklaroe | I take you you're playing TBC on wine? |
| 01:37.22 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh, gonna have to wait until tomorrow to get my copy of Gears of War :( |
| 01:37.35 | Garoun|Loupana | er next week |
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| 01:37.56 | Warla | hmm |
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| 01:38.06 | Warla | does anyone know what the new honor functions are in BC? |
| 01:38.23 | Warla | HKs i can still get all other stuff seems not working |
| 01:38.36 | Warla | how do i get Todays Honor / Yesterdays honor / total honor ? |
| 01:39.50 | wereHamster | jklaroe, yes, I'm trying |
| 01:39.59 | jklaroe | j\w |
| 01:40.05 | wereHamster | (downloading a 300MB patch right now) |
| 01:42.18 | Tem | 300 mb patch? |
| 01:43.32 | jklaroe | that's the first one, from 5991 to 6022 |
| 01:44.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The irony of all of this? I have a fully patched client |
| 01:45.24 | weab | in what way is that irony |
| 01:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have a key yet |
| 01:45.38 | weab | and? |
| 01:45.42 | weab | that's not irony. |
| 01:45.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Fully patched client. Sitting there. |
| 01:45.47 | ScytheBlade1 | No key. |
| 01:45.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay okay |
| 01:45.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It's depressing ;) |
| 01:45.54 | jklaroe | same >.< |
| 01:45.57 | ScytheBlade1 | s/(/P/ |
| 01:46.33 | Industrial | s/;P/:'\(/ |
| 01:46.40 | Tem | pretty sure you need to escape '(' |
| 01:46.40 | jklaroe | O_o |
| 01:46.47 | Industrial | Tem: hah! |
| 01:46.48 | gnorlish | correcting those makes them even more confusing |
| 01:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I realized that after I typed it. |
| 01:47.04 | ckknight | and you can't use escaping with purl |
| 01:47.09 | Industrial | yeah :( |
| 01:47.43 | weab | purl doesnt do real regex's. just basic gsub as far as i've seen |
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| 01:48.58 | ckknight | it doesn't use lua, weab |
| 01:49.05 | ckknight | it just uses a hackish regex |
| 01:49.15 | ScytheBlade1 | purl is written in... perl |
| 01:49.19 | weab | i wasn't talking about lua |
| 01:49.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I know the author, I'll bug him sometime about escaping it |
| 01:49.53 | weab | s/^.*$/it just doesn't do regex/ |
| 01:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll tell him to make it ;) |
| 01:50.05 | weab | s/\w+/at all/ |
| 01:50.23 | weab | s/at all/but does standard replacing./ |
| 01:50.38 | weab | or ignores other lines. i dont know, its a pos. |
| 01:50.55 | Tem | weab, purl ignores lines that appear to be previous attempts at the replace script |
| 01:51.15 | weab | it's still a pos |
| 01:51.16 | weab | :P |
| 01:51.29 | Cairenn | "Crazy. The internets strikes again!<font size="3"> I’ll resend them tomorrow if you don’t hear of anyone receiving them by then."</font> |
| 01:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Awesome |
| 01:51.42 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
| 01:53.25 | Garoun|Loupana | who's taht from Cair? |
| 01:54.18 | Cairenn | <font size="3">my contact at Blizz about the keys</font> |
| 01:54.58 | jklaroe | thanks Cairenn <3 |
| 01:54.59 | Cairenn | <font size="3">as opposed to one of my other contacts</font> |
| 01:55.11 | Industrial | woot |
| 01:55.11 | Cairenn | <font size="3">you're welcome guys</font> |
| 01:55.14 | Cairenn | <font size="3">I'm sorry about the wait</font> |
| 01:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Now how about turning the HTML in IRC off? ;) |
| 01:55.29 | Tuller | thanks :) |
| 01:55.41 | Industrial | rejoice! |
| 01:55.48 | Industrial | dance! |
| 01:55.50 | MikkWoW | <blink>I'm blinky. Might go to bed.</blink> |
| 01:55.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:55.57 | ScytheBlade1 | MikkWoW wins |
| 01:56.31 | Industrial | okok were in goldshire |
| 01:56.58 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: LAL U IZ GURL, OMG LIKE MARYY ME??! |
| 01:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | .. No. |
| 01:57.17 | Industrial | (aka RP servers) |
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| 01:57.29 | Industrial | =P |
| 01:59.12 | Industrial | ckknight: ping |
| 02:06.36 | zespri_work | thank you Cairenn |
| 02:06.55 | Cairenn | <font size="3">you're welcome</font> |
| 02:07.20 | zespri_work | Cairenn, do you know a single WOW-US person who received the key so far? I mean from those that you sent off |
| 02:07.39 | Cairenn | <font size="3">I heard of 3 that showed up Monday night and not a single one since</font> |
| 02:07.45 | Cairenn | <font size="3">makes no sense to me</font> |
| 02:08.19 | Tuller | its gotta be the tubes were clogged with other emails |
| 02:08.37 | zespri_work | thank you for all the efforts again. I guess we have to excercise our patience =) |
| 02:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | zespri_work, I know two people who got them monday, US |
| 02:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Third batch |
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| 02:08.47 | zenzelezz | what's with the HTML tags Cairenn? :-o |
| 02:08.57 | Cairenn | <font size="3">what html tags?</font> |
| 02:09.02 | Cairenn | <font size="3">oh, I know</font> |
| 02:09.07 | zenzelezz | <Cairenn> <font size="3">what html tags?</font> |
| 02:09.10 | Cairenn | <font size="3">probably because I'm quoting from an email</font> |
| 02:09.28 | Cairenn | <font size="3">no idea how to turn it off, lemme reboot</font> |
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| 02:11.29 | zespri_work | Cairenn, say something, let us see if the tags have gone |
| 02:11.37 | Cairenn | something |
| 02:11.43 | Tuller | hurray |
| 02:11.47 | zespri_work | hooray. good as gold |
| 02:13.53 | cladhaire | hehe that was weird |
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| 02:14.42 | wereHamster | are the EU beta realms down? |
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| 02:24.54 | eternally777 | Wow |
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| 02:39.37 | Garoun|Loupana | that was weird Cair |
| 02:39.38 | Garoun|Loupana | :P |
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| 02:43.46 | |Shadow| | whats the /script command to show the BG Stats? |
| 02:44.03 | Cairenn | what was? |
| 02:44.16 | Garoun|Loupana | the prefixed html typing :) |
| 02:44.55 | Cairenn | yeah, it was, I think it's because I was using cut & paste from html email |
| 02:46.44 | Shadowed | |Shadow| there is none |
| 02:46.49 | Shadowed | or do you mean the scoreboard? |
| 02:47.01 | Shadowed | and if you mean the scoreboard, check wowwiki since i'd imagine it's there |
| 02:47.09 | |Shadow| | yea i mean the scoreboard |
| 02:47.20 | |Shadow| | where in wowwiki? |
| 02:47.47 | Shadowed | the function list? |
| 02:48.14 | |Shadow| | ahh :P |
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| 03:21.45 | Kirkburn | Yay, I got my Dreadmist mantle finally :) |
| 03:21.49 | jklaroe | grats |
| 03:21.56 | Mike-N-Go | What does it do? |
| 03:22.22 | Kirkburn | Looks a damn sight cooler than the rubbish shoulders my TBC beta version of the char has :P |
| 03:22.57 | Kirkburn | Mike-N-Go, it means I'm only one away from the full Dreadmist I think |
| 03:23.27 | Mike-N-Go | Witch is....? |
| 03:23.50 | Kirkburn | I'll probably find awesome new shoulders in Outland soon enough anyway :P Deathmist - Warlock dungeon set |
| 03:23.56 | Kirkburn | uh, Dreadmist |
| 03:24.32 | Kirkburn | I feel like you're going to ask me what WoW is soon ;) |
| 03:24.32 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, armor set, I guess. |
| 03:26.56 | Tem | Kirkburn, there's a quest reward shoulder in HFP that rivals AQ set shoulders for o casters |
| 03:27.19 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 03:27.38 | Mike-N-Go | d:) |
| 03:28.47 | Kirkburn | To bed, go I! G'night |
| 03:28.58 | Thunder_Child | Night Kirkburn |
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| 04:02.01 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6818 |
| 04:03.15 | Garoun|Loupana | hehe nice icon |
| 04:03.20 | Garoun|Loupana | er avatar |
| 04:06.08 | Cairenn | do feel free to respond to the post, with quotes, so the picture is spammed |
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| 04:09.38 | Dolby-wowi | hmm link doesnt work |
| 04:09.55 | Cairenn | oh yes it does |
| 04:09.57 | Thunder_Child | does for me |
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| 04:10.27 | Dolby-wowi | nope |
| 04:10.32 | Cairenn | yup |
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| 04:10.59 | Dolby-wowi | just shows a red X |
| 04:11.34 | Mike-N-Go | Are you logged in? |
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| 04:11.49 | GremWarsong | Hey, does anyone know a good guide for how to use savedvariables? |
| 04:12.02 | GremWarsong | Ive never really messed with saved variables and need to figure out how to save a nice big list of names |
| 04:12.07 | GremWarsong | and then retrieve the list of names on login |
| 04:12.30 | Mike-N-Go | GremWarsong: I am looking for the same thing. |
| 04:12.52 | GremWarsong | Nice =) |
| 04:13.03 | jklaroe | looks like someone deleted the topic |
| 04:13.19 | jklaroe | or i'm blind |
| 04:13.21 | jklaroe | nvm |
| 04:13.31 | Shadowed | ....and now it works |
| 04:14.05 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
| 04:14.05 | Mike-N-Go | ? |
| 04:14.17 | Mike-N-Go | Just use the search of wow wiki! |
| 04:14.19 | GremWarsong | Cool, thanks =) |
| 04:14.41 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know any librarys that make using savedvariables a whole lot easier? |
| 04:14.50 | Mike-N-Go | Try: http://www.google.com/custom?domains=wowwiki.com&q=saved+variables&sitesearch=wowwiki.com&sa=Search&client=pub-5713967283907580&forid=1&channel=6987656965&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&cof=GALT%3A%2346ABFF%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23EEEEEE%3BVLC%3A4274FF%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A333333%3BLBGC%3AFFFF99%3BALC%3A46ABFF%3BLC%3A46ABFF%3BT%3AEEEEEE%3BGFNT%3AAAAAAA%3BGIMP%3AAAAAAA%3BLH%3A100%3BLW%3A100%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2Fskins%2Fcommon%2Fimages%2Fwiki-100.jp |
| 04:14.58 | Shadowed | can't make it much easier then they are |
| 04:15.02 | Osagasu | keylogger. |
| 04:15.05 | norgs_away | oh no! my eyes bleed! |
| 04:15.05 | Osagasu | >.> |
| 04:15.12 | Mike-N-Go | If you can't type in "Saved Variables" your self! |
| 04:18.01 | jklaroe | so anywho |
| 04:18.22 | jklaroe | ohio managed to vote for an increase in minimum wage |
| 04:19.01 | Mike-N-Go | CA will have $8/hour soon. |
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| 04:19.48 | jklaroe | I haven't taken economics, but I thought that increase of pay means that all the other businesses have to charge more for their goods to make up for the extra money. |
| 04:20.02 | norgs_away | heheh |
| 04:20.09 | norgs_away | it's never that simple |
| 04:20.17 | Mike-N-Go | jklaroe: That is generally how it works. |
| 04:20.33 | Mike-N-Go | Min. wage goes up, so does everything else. |
| 04:20.43 | jklaroe | that's why I didn't vote for it >.< |
| 04:20.51 | jklaroe | the day I can vote myself more money, is the day the world ends |
| 04:20.54 | norgs_away | trouble is that if they put the price up, then they increase the room for competition |
| 04:22.30 | jklaroe | done! stupid 10 page research paper =X |
| 04:22.30 | norgs_away | to understand even a little bit of economics, you need to know that it's not how much things cost, but how many times the one dollar gets taxed in a single day. |
| 04:24.08 | jklaroe | they passed the smoking ban too, state wide, no smoking O_o |
| 04:24.20 | norgs_away | yay! |
| 04:24.31 | norgs_away | now you gotta wait to see if they enforce it |
| 04:25.06 | norgs_away | we got no smoking in public rules here in australia but nobody does anything about it. |
| 04:25.24 | cladhaire | mmm.. Australia. |
| 04:25.27 | jklaroe | we have one in the city near me, they really cracked down on it. But idk about state wide |
| 04:25.32 | cladhaire | I just got four boxes of Tim Tam.. |
| 04:25.32 | cladhaire | mmm. |
| 04:25.42 | jklaroe | if only I knew what Tim tam was... |
| 04:25.49 | norgs_away | (i'm a non-smoker and fully support people not blowing their second-hand smoke in my face, btw) |
| 04:25.56 | Mike-N-Go | yay for no-smoke! |
| 04:25.59 | jklaroe | same |
| 04:27.20 | norgs_away | you wanna smoke in your own house and kill yourself, kewl... you wanna smoke while walking on the footpath in front of me / at some doorway that i have to go through, that's not cool. |
| 04:27.49 | jklaroe | family owned business's are excempt from this law though |
| 04:28.32 | norgs_away | O_o ? |
| 04:28.43 | jklaroe | Exempt from the smoking restrictions certain locations, including private residences (except during the hours that the residence operates as a place of business involving non-residents of the private residence), designated smoking rooms in hotels, motels, and other lodging facilities; designated smoking areas for nursing home residents; retail tobacco stores, outdoor patios, private clubs, and family-owned and operated places of business; |
| 04:29.04 | jklaroe | quite a few places are excempt |
| 04:29.57 | jklaroe | and it looks like the fines the people that smoke get, go towards a clean air fund. |
| 04:30.12 | norgs_away | hehe - we had places here in australia who wouldn't give you cutlery to eat your food with when our laws first came out, because that would put them into the wrong category and they'd have to stop people from smoking |
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| 04:34.23 | Mike-N-Go | What is this about utensils? |
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| 04:37.06 | GremWarsong | How do you assign a table as a saved variable? |
| 04:37.14 | jklaroe | spoon + fork = spork |
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| 04:37.55 | norgs_away | na jklaroe, he said "table" |
| 04:38.22 | norgs_away | sporks go *on* the table |
| 04:38.36 | jklaroe | oh sorry |
| 04:39.30 | thezanke | i have a dodge parry counter, and it works, just one issue... it counts everyones dodges and parries not jus thte characters |
| 04:40.03 | norgs_away | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
| 04:40.33 | GremWarsong | I read it norgs ... =/ |
| 04:40.46 | Mike-N-Go | I posted the link first! |
| 04:40.53 | Mike-N-Go | :P |
| 04:40.54 | GremWarsong | SavedVariables: Demo_test{} ? |
| 04:40.59 | GremWarsong | That seems like it wouldnt work |
| 04:41.42 | GremWarsong | Oh, you assign a table to it after you load the variable? |
| 04:44.36 | norgs_away | In the toc, you just name the table you want saved. |
| 04:44.46 | norgs_away | you initialize it in lua |
| 04:44.53 | norgs_away | toc != lua |
| 04:45.35 | norgs_away | so in the toc you have: ## SavedVariables: DemoTest |
| 04:45.50 | norgs_away | then in the lua you have: DemoTest = {} |
| 04:45.56 | GremWarsong | I see |
| 04:46.06 | GremWarsong | That's what I needed to know, thank you very much |
| 04:46.16 | norgs_away | and then the DemoText magically keeps it's values from session to session |
| 04:46.39 | GremWarsong | That's pretty easy |
| 04:46.47 | norgs_away | yup |
| 04:47.01 | norgs_away | it's the other bit that's hard |
| 04:48.13 | GremWarsong | The other bit? |
| 04:48.35 | Mike-N-Go | Writing the vars.. |
| 04:48.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:48.51 | GremWarsong | Why is that hard? =P |
| 04:48.57 | norgs_away | yah, the bit where you actually do things with the stuff you're saving |
| 04:49.20 | GremWarsong | lol...is there something special that needs to be done with the data? |
| 04:49.53 | norgs_away | i dunno - it's your addon |
| 04:50.00 | GremWarsong | I get it |
| 04:50.03 | GremWarsong | Funny joke |
| 04:50.15 | norgs_away | unless you're just writing an addon and all it does is save an empty table i guess... |
| 04:50.24 | GremWarsong | Hehe =) |
| 04:50.47 | Mike-N-Go | Well, wouldn't that be convenient. |
| 04:51.40 | Mike-N-Go | How do you input data into this table via slash commands? |
| 04:51.42 | norgs_away | easy way to get a beta key i guess... i think cair's probably awake up to that scheme though. |
| 04:52.36 | GremWarsong | Is there a limit to how much data can be in a table within a saved variable? |
| 04:52.46 | GremWarsong | Because im expecting to have thousands of saved values |
| 04:52.56 | ScytheBlade1 | No limits really |
| 04:52.58 | norgs_away | yeah, it's fairly big though |
| 04:53.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Only those on your computers |
| 04:53.01 | Mike-N-Go | 2^16 |
| 04:53.06 | GremWarsong | Haha, okay |
| 04:53.08 | Mike-N-Go | constants |
| 04:53.27 | GremWarsong | do saved variables take awhile to load if there are around 10,000 of them? |
| 04:53.32 | GremWarsong | Since it saves it to a flatfile |
| 04:53.33 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll hit performance issues far before you hit anything else |
| 04:53.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Use a table for that |
| 04:53.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Not individual variables |
| 04:53.44 | Mike-N-Go | Take Auctioneer, for instance. |
| 04:53.47 | GremWarsong | Yeah, it would all be in a table |
| 04:56.06 | norgs_away | you might want to look at: http://www.wowwiki.com/Memory_Usage |
| 04:56.25 | GremWarsong | Thanks |
| 04:56.51 | ckknight | mmm... I recommend using Ace2. With AceDB-2.0, many of the icky details are handled for you in an efficient manner. Also, as Mike-N-Go was talking about earlier, slash commands to do arbitrary things are quite easy to make. |
| 04:57.00 | ckknight | that's just me, though |
| 04:58.04 | Garoun|Loupana | Eye of the Storm BG looks cool |
| 04:58.24 | ckknight | oh? |
| 04:58.26 | ckknight | link? |
| 04:58.31 | Garoun|Loupana | one sec |
| 04:58.40 | GremWarsong | Slash commands? easy to make? arbitrary things? |
| 04:58.53 | GremWarsong | Im not sure what relevance that is to anything =) |
| 04:58.57 | Mike-N-Go | Only because he has been doing it so long. |
| 04:59.13 | Mike-N-Go | ~botsnack |
| 04:59.13 | purl | Mike-N-Go: thanks |
| 04:59.23 | ckknight | Mike-N-Go, Ace2's a good framework, even for noobies |
| 04:59.29 | Mike-N-Go | ~lart purl |
| 04:59.33 | Garoun|Loupana | ck: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6629782328894943057 |
| 04:59.46 | Garoun|Loupana | looks really cool |
| 05:00.12 | ckknight | GremWarsong, well, AceDB-2.0 can handle your SVs for you :-P |
| 05:00.13 | Garoun|Loupana | if you ever play a priest you'll immediately have the evil thoughts I did :P |
| 05:00.25 | ckknight | I play a priest ;-) |
| 05:00.34 | Garoun|Loupana | well lets jsut say.... long falls |
| 05:00.59 | Garoun|Loupana | basically the entire center of the map is a gorge with 3 bridges over it |
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| 05:04.55 | ckknight | lol, he's using FuBar |
| 05:05.08 | Garoun|Loupana | <3 fubar! |
| 05:08.48 | GremWarsong | anyone here have final fantasy 12? |
| 05:09.11 | Kemayo | I'd like to. |
| 05:09.21 | Garoun|Loupana | nope, but I'm waiting desperately for Gears of War to get here :/ |
| 05:09.30 | GremWarsong | I need someone to convince me not to buy FF12 |
| 05:09.42 | Garoun|Loupana | they shipped it today but I had 2nday air and friday is a holiday :( |
| 05:18.41 | Nom_ | purl: wave |
| 05:18.44 | Nom_ | oh lol |
| 05:18.47 | Nom_ | wrong channel |
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| 05:19.10 | Mike-N-Go | ~info |
| 05:19.21 | gnorlish | oh man i thought we chased Mike-N-Go out for good yesterday |
| 05:19.29 | gnorlish | quick, someone start eating someone else! |
| 05:19.44 | Mike-N-Go | What did I do in day of yesterday? |
| 05:19.59 | Mike-N-Go | ~help |
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| 05:21.23 | [Curse]Werik | Morning |
| 05:21.29 | Mike-N-Go | Hi |
| 05:22.06 | Cairenn | hi [Curse]Werik |
| 05:22.24 | [Curse]Werik | Hi hi |
| 05:22.47 | [Cu]Werik | Nice day this is:) |
| 05:22.52 | Mike-N-Go | Hail, mighty Cairenn! |
| 05:23.57 | Cairenn | [Cu]Werik: yeah? good |
| 05:24.05 | Cairenn | kinda dark here atm ;) |
| 05:24.14 | [Cu]Werik | Yup, I'm a fiance since 8 hours now:) |
| 05:24.25 | Cairenn | YAY! congrats! |
| 05:24.58 | [Cu]Werik | :) thanks |
| 05:24.59 | Cairenn | when's the date? |
| 05:25.06 | [Cu]Werik | No date |
| 05:25.12 | Cairenn | not yet, huh? |
| 05:25.24 | [Cu]Werik | Nah, sometimes at summer |
| 05:25.58 | [Cu]Werik | I'm not rushing the end of my life:P |
| 05:26.28 | Cairenn | bah, it isn't the end of your life, geez |
| 05:26.48 | [Cu]Werik | Of course it is |
| 05:27.18 | [Cu]Werik | And the beginning of a new one |
| 05:28.31 | Cairenn | okay guys, sleep time for me |
| 05:28.43 | [Cu]Werik | nn |
| 05:30.17 | eternally777 | [Cu]Werik: Grats! |
| 05:30.33 | eternally777 | (sorry, delayed reactions) |
| 05:30.56 | [Cu]Werik | ;) |
| 05:31.20 | Adrine | Congrats! |
| 05:31.50 | [Cu]Werik | doh, thanks :) |
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| 05:41.46 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, nubi question: What is the difference between the different brackets, and why would you use one over the other: { }, [ ], ( )? |
| 05:44.50 | [Cu]Werik | In programming or in general? |
| 05:44.55 | Nom_ | If it was Perl, then {} denotes a hashref, [] an arrayref, and () an array |
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| 05:46.36 | [Cu]Werik | In programming, parentheses are usually used to define expressions |
| 05:47.22 | [Cu]Werik | square brackets are used to refer to elements |
| 05:47.52 | [Cu]Werik | and curly brackets define blocks in most of the programming languages |
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| 05:48.48 | [Cu]Werik | and dont forget the angle brackets either then, which is used for tags |
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| 05:55.14 | SP|Sorren | bah, csi miami needs better writers |
| 05:56.10 | SP|Sorren | they're looking at this blog and it looks like a really fancy powerpoint presentation |
| 06:00.25 | Shadowed | Powerpoints are serious business |
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| 06:08.21 | Thunder_Child | indeed they are |
| 06:09.15 | Thunder_Child | i once made a power point presentation about createing a company that makes custom UI's to order |
| 06:10.06 | Mike-N-Go | Ok... |
| 06:11.15 | Thunder_Child | was a business presentation...very serious stuff, thoes PP's |
| 06:31.46 | ckknight | [Cu]Werik, it depends on the schema that's used, really. |
| 06:32.05 | [Cu]Werik | Yup |
| 06:32.20 | [Cu]Werik | I agree on that |
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| 07:32.52 | s|loup | hi |
| 07:33.00 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know how to retrieve the chat color for a player's whisper? |
| 07:33.04 | Cairenn|afk | s|loup: hey! LTNS |
| 07:35.17 | GremWarsong | Im studying the Blizzard UI but cant figure out how to lookup a player's chat color settings |
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| 07:38.30 | GremWarsong | I think I found it, nevermind =) |
| 07:38.53 | Esamynn | GremWarsong: that information is stored at runtime in ChatTypeInfo |
| 07:40.31 | GremWarsong | Okay |
| 07:49.14 | GremWarsong | Getting it with ChatTypeInfo.r seems to return some sort of color 'ID' rather than an actual 0-255 value |
| 07:49.34 | GremWarsong | Is there a way to convert it to a 0-255 ? |
| 07:50.02 | sylvanaar | what? |
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| 07:50.27 | GremWarsong | For example, when I printed out the ChatTypeInfo["REPLY"].r , it returned: 1.000000059139 |
| 07:50.39 | GremWarsong | (The red color value of the reply chat string) |
| 07:51.18 | GremWarsong | What kind of value is that? |
| 07:51.56 | End | a floating points value |
| 07:52.04 | GremWarsong | I know that |
| 07:52.14 | GremWarsong | But how does it reference to the color? |
| 07:52.18 | sylvanaar | 0 - 1 |
| 07:52.24 | GremWarsong | It's above 1 though |
| 07:53.22 | sylvanaar | ok just a sec |
| 07:53.34 | GremWarsong | Thanks =) |
| 07:54.43 | sylvanaar | i do it by listeneng for UPDATE_CHAT_COLOR |
| 07:55.15 | GremWarsong | Well I can get a value, but I just want to convert that value to a different format |
| 07:55.23 | GremWarsong | I want to convert that garble I got into something from 0-255 |
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| 07:59.35 | Mery | well 1.000000059139 * 255 = 255.000015080445 and I think the reason for it not be exact may be technical reasons like if you do :SetWidth(20) /dump :GetWidth() it will return something like 19.999999823234 |
| 08:00.31 | Shadowed | I always wondered why it did that |
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| 08:08.22 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:10.00 | GremWarsong | Okay, is there a way to convert it? |
| 08:10.33 | sylvanaar | sure its not precise past 6 decimal places |
| 08:10.34 | GremWarsong | Just multiply the float by 255 and then check the whole number? |
| 08:11.17 | sylvanaar | and anyways those wont have much of an effect on the final number yeah |
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| 08:12.37 | GremWarsong | Alright, thanks for the help =) |
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| 08:38.17 | Crispix | MEEP O_O |
| 08:38.22 | Crispix | I think i found my new desktop |
| 08:38.23 | Crispix | :O |
| 08:38.24 | Corrodias | meep meep |
| 08:40.40 | Corrodias | oh? |
| 08:40.51 | Crispix | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24121377 |
| 08:40.54 | ckknight | ~emulate beaker |
| 08:40.56 | purl | ACTION meeps |
| 08:41.35 | Corrodias | impressive |
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| 08:42.02 | Crispix | yeah |
| 08:42.02 | Crispix | :D |
| 08:48.25 | Corrodias | time to research... mage |
| 08:49.05 | ckknight | ~emulate swedish chef |
| 08:49.07 | purl | Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! |
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| 09:20.04 | thr | hmm |
| 09:20.06 | thr | I have a problem ;( |
| 09:20.10 | Crispix | ? |
| 09:20.20 | thr | 2 sec gotta beat a druid in a duel |
| 09:21.01 | thr | well, when I change the scale of my "top level" frame |
| 09:21.18 | thr | at certain scale levels, like 1.5, 1.6 and 1.7 some of the frames withn the topframe... behave strange |
| 09:21.26 | thr | like the fontstrings miss a couple of settings, etc. |
| 09:21.33 | thr | eh, couple of letters, even |
| 09:21.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | so what exactly does ~emulate do? :O |
| 09:23.09 | Silviu- | ~emulate Mr_Rabies2 |
| 09:23.14 | purl | BATS! Bats. BaTs? |
| 09:23.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | what does it do? other than a random phrase thing |
| 09:24.00 | Silviu- | i think nothing :) |
| 09:24.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate thr |
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| 09:24.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate slouken |
| 09:24.48 | purl | ACTION pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP* |
| 09:25.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~help |
| 09:25.27 | thr | anyone knows what's wrong with the scale-thingythingy? |
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| 09:48.25 | cryogen | i would go with frost for tbc, at least the first bits :) |
| 09:50.54 | thr | is there any way to to get the current x/y positions of the mouse when i click? |
| 09:50.58 | thr | or where the mouse clicked on a frame? |
| 09:52.35 | thr | got it |
| 09:54.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeeh installing BC BETA :P |
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| 09:55.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | cladhaire: Hi! |
| 09:56.21 | cladhaire | heyas |
| 09:56.27 | clad|work | bye! =) |
| 09:57.18 | Mery | hi and bye! |
| 09:57.35 | clad|work | This is a weird question, but is anyone else having issues connecting to AIM? |
| 09:58.29 | |FF|Im2good4u | no |
| 09:58.32 | |FF|Im2good4u | just u |
| 09:59.24 | thr | can't you SetScale() on FontStrings ? |
| 10:01.09 | teomyr | does anyone have a formula for how much threat spells generate that don't deal damage? |
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| 10:01.37 | teomyr | curse of elements or curse of weakness, for example |
| 10:02.19 | Silviu- | dunno but they generate some :) |
| 10:02.37 | Silviu- | i`m a warlock myself :> |
| 10:03.15 | teomyr | i'm writing some kind of threat meter for hunter/warlock pets ;) |
| 10:03.22 | teomyr | would be good to know these values |
| 10:05.28 | Corrodias | so very confusing... |
| 10:05.38 | Corrodias | well, not confusing. |
| 10:05.46 | teomyr | what? |
| 10:06.17 | Corrodias | this stuff about mages, speccing fire, frost, or a mix, trying to be effective in MC and other instances. |
| 10:08.42 | cryogen | teomyr: they are fixed amounts iirc, the ktm people have lists for them all |
| 10:09.15 | cryogen | Corrodias: when my guild was running mc bwl and aq40 at the same time, thats how i used to spec |
| 10:09.24 | cryogen | pure fire is better if all you do is aq40 and naxx, though |
| 10:09.25 | Corrodias | "that"? i just gave you three options |
| 10:09.33 | cryogen | the mix :) |
| 10:10.02 | Corrodias | ah. one guy said, in a forum here, that he ran out of mana too quickly as elemental and changed to arc/frost |
| 10:10.15 | cryogen | depends on your gear and if you're alliance or horde |
| 10:10.26 | teomyr | cryogen: could you point me to this list? i've seen lists for spells like taunt, torment, searing pain etc. but not for this, unfortunately :/ |
| 10:10.31 | Corrodias | why does the faction matter? |
| 10:10.36 | cryogen | Corrodias: bow/jow |
| 10:10.42 | Corrodias | that means nothing to me |
| 10:10.50 | cryogen | in short: paladins |
| 10:11.00 | Corrodias | still not following |
| 10:11.17 | cryogen | teomyr: not really :/ i seem to recall there being a thread in the forums(warrior forums?), you could check the addon source too if you are lua-wise |
| 10:11.28 | cryogen | Corrodias: blessing of widsom and judgement of wisdom.. they restore mana.. a LOT of mana |
| 10:11.52 | zenzelezz | when they remember to put it on the mobs |
| 10:12.04 | zenzelezz | "[Raid] [...]: JOW!!!" |
| 10:12.13 | cryogen | indeed. :) |
| 10:12.45 | AnduinLothar | you still only get it from attacks and wanding, not spells |
| 10:12.49 | AnduinLothar | well, jow |
| 10:12.54 | cryogen | er, no |
| 10:12.59 | cryogen | you very much get it from spells :) |
| 10:13.10 | AnduinLothar | oh? |
| 10:13.14 | cryogen | yar |
| 10:13.18 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 10:13.19 | cryogen | scorch spam + jow = <3 |
| 10:13.21 | teomyr | yes, spells, melee and wands |
| 10:13.27 | AnduinLothar | interesting |
| 10:13.50 | Corrodias | what about speccing arc/frost adds mana efficiency? |
| 10:13.57 | cryogen | it does, sure. |
| 10:14.03 | Corrodias | i'm asking how |
| 10:14.07 | cryogen | ah |
| 10:14.13 | cryogen | clearcasting, and the mana regen talent |
| 10:15.06 | cryogen | in my experience when i was first starting out, i needed to be arcane/something |
| 10:15.15 | cryogen | when i got better gear i found i never ran out of mana so speccing fire/frost was better |
| 10:18.53 | teomyr | cryogen: klhtm doesn't even seem to take this kind of threat into account :/ |
| 10:19.47 | Corrodias | so if i spec fire with a few in arcane for clearcasting, just as an example that i made up after about half an hour of reading, i could still cast frost and arcane based spells against fire-immune mobs, but they wouldnt do as much damage as they could (which could result in a low damage output) and would cost more mana? |
| 10:20.39 | cryogen | teomyr: really? hmm |
| 10:20.52 | cryogen | i was sure they did |
| 10:21.22 | Corrodias | this forum makes it sound like fire mages heading to MC try to collect items that lower your opponent's resistances and insist that a warlock be around to cast Curse of Elements |
| 10:21.41 | Corrodias | so that they can still be useful with fire |
| 10:21.54 | cryogen | Corrodias: you wont do as much damage in mc as a 100% frost/arcane spec mage, but you will still be fairly high on output |
| 10:22.13 | cryogen | and yes, CoE is essential |
| 10:22.17 | Corrodias | arr. thank you for advising me. |
| 10:22.30 | cryogen | it varies from mob to mob and boss to boss |
| 10:22.47 | cryogen | some are highly fire resistant, some arent at all |
| 10:23.47 | Corrodias | one person recommended an addon that analyzes enemies' resistances. could be sweet. |
| 10:23.59 | AnduinLothar | already exists |
| 10:24.09 | Corrodias | i mean, recommended GETTING one |
| 10:24.12 | cryogen | could help, but sooner or later you'll get your own feel for it |
| 10:24.14 | Corrodias | not making one :) |
| 10:24.33 | zenzelezz | think my guild uses it for the drakonids in BWL |
| 10:24.39 | zenzelezz | and some other mobs |
| 10:24.49 | Corrodias | this guy recommended GLOCK. is that what you use? |
| 10:25.25 | cryogen | oh and btw, since you are doing mc, you'll probably be doing zg too? and fire is *really* fun in zg :) |
| 10:25.27 | zenzelezz | hope you're not asking me, I'm a warrior; I just hit stuff |
| 10:25.44 | Corrodias | just thought you might happen to know what the addon that you're referring to is called |
| 10:26.19 | zenzelezz | for all I know they could be testing manually =) But it would make sense for them to use an addon... some of them are somewhat addon crazy |
| 10:26.28 | Corrodias | lol |
| 10:26.42 | zenzelezz | we generally see when it's nature... when the hunters pull aggro |
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| 10:34.43 | Corrodias | if you don't mind, could someone familiar with mage take a look at this? it's a first preliminary draft of an end build, based on no experience and just reading a short guide, which seemed to recommend builds that spread out more between arc/fire or fire/frost. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0VZVgMufcut0h |
| 10:35.19 | teomyr | quick testing suggests that threat gain for instant, non-damaging afflictions might be mana cost*0,75 |
| 10:35.33 | Corrodias | to start off, i'd rather have the reduced Fireball time, but i see that gets up to a 3.5s cast at the top end at which point a half second reduction may or may not be as useful, depending on how often you're casting it |
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| 10:35.43 | cryogen | are your intentions pve only or some pvp mixed in? |
| 10:35.51 | Corrodias | bit of both |
| 10:36.48 | cryogen | seems fine, but ive never used a build without the reduced cast time in the thing i use most |
| 10:36.58 | cryogen | those 0.5 of a second add up over boss fights especially |
| 10:37.24 | cryogen | thats why i asked about pvp, i would take imp fireball over impact for pve |
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| 10:37.40 | Corrodias | so fireball gets used a lot, even at 60? |
| 10:38.16 | cryogen | it's your main nuke on boss fights |
| 10:38.47 | cryogen | 5/5 fire vuln, fireballs until fire vuln is about to fade, scorch to keep it running |
| 10:38.50 | cryogen | rinse repea |
| 10:38.53 | cryogen | t |
| 10:39.15 | cryogen | of course there is no subsitite for presonal experimentation :) |
| 10:39.48 | cryogen | personal, too |
| 10:40.22 | Corrodias | i tried that with my druid. i found it to be a very expensive method. ;) |
| 10:40.29 | cryogen | hehe |
| 10:40.36 | cryogen | well, you seem to have the basics down. |
| 10:40.46 | cryogen | anything more will come from your own playstyle |
| 10:41.28 | cryogen | and experience |
| 10:41.48 | Corrodias | well, thanks again for your advice. now i have to go to bed. 'ni! |
| 10:41.53 | cryogen | ciao |
| 10:44.39 | teomyr | this threat thing is driving me crazy :/ |
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| 10:59.03 | teomyr | threat gain for instant, non-damaging debuffs = spelllevel * 2. can anyone confirm this? :D |
| 11:00.27 | AnduinLothar | check ktm |
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| 11:01.52 | Hatsuki | hmm, I'd believe it's zero. just puts into combat |
| 11:02.08 | Hatsuki | for instance, polying doesnt cause much if any threat |
| 11:02.48 | teomyr | ktm doesn't display anything for it |
| 11:03.03 | teomyr | but my voidwalker definitely needs several hits to take the aggro off me |
| 11:03.04 | Hatsuki | or warlock curses like cos/coe/cor |
| 11:03.05 | zenzelezz | well, Sunder Armor is an instant, non-damaging debuff |
| 11:03.16 | teomyr | i'm talking about warlock curses here |
| 11:03.34 | zenzelezz | thought you were talking general, nevermind then |
| 11:03.55 | Hatsuki | it was possible to farm bwl goblinpacks with 3man |
| 11:04.24 | Hatsuki | just separate goblins with curses and big guys wont aggro to you |
| 11:04.37 | teomyr | oh, nice :D |
| 11:05.05 | Hatsuki | nowdays they dont anymore drop elementium ore, so not worth it |
| 11:07.56 | AnduinLothar | they dont? |
| 11:08.41 | AnduinLothar | we got like 5 ores on our bwl today, but i dunno who exactly droppeded it. jsut more than usual |
| 11:10.39 | Hatsuki | AnduinLothar: blizz changed it so that you need more than 5man in raid |
| 11:10.51 | Hatsuki | and if nefa is dead they wont drop wither |
| 11:10.53 | Hatsuki | *either |
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| 11:45.47 | Wobin | beta key wru =( |
| 11:54.31 | Elkano | desu desu desu... |
| 12:00.10 | haste | wryyyy! |
| 12:08.15 | Wobin | =((( |
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| 12:24.15 | JoshBork1 | ~logs |
| 12:24.21 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 13:10.20 | JoshBorke | morning |
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| 13:43.28 | s|loup | where can i found the extracted built-in files for interface customization of the beta client at wowinterface? |
| 13:44.49 | zeta | Simple Question: is there a event when you cast a spell (like innervate) found a list of spell events but non seem te be logical. |
| 13:45.55 | s|loup | innervate is a instant cast so you just get SPELLSTOP_CASTING or something like that |
| 13:47.39 | s|loup | if you cast a spell with a duration for casting, then you can use SPELLCAST_START |
| 13:47.54 | s|loup | all instant cast just get SPELLCAST_STOP |
| 13:48.03 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 13:48.15 | [Wobin] | are there any benefits from using self instead of the object name? |
| 13:48.54 | zeta | thnx. |
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| 13:49.18 | s|loup | [Wobin] you mean 'this'? |
| 13:49.23 | wereHamster | are the EU beta servers up? I don't see any :( |
| 13:49.26 | [Wobin] | no self |
| 13:49.47 | Tain | self cuts out a global namespace lookup, I believe. |
| 13:49.51 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 13:49.54 | [Wobin] | true |
| 13:49.59 | [Wobin] | since it's a local call |
| 13:50.13 | [Wobin] | okies |
| 13:50.48 | s|loup | does wowinterface host the built-in files for interface customization? |
| 13:50.50 | Mery | s|loup http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 13:50.52 | [Wobin] | night all =) |
| 13:50.56 | s|loup | thx |
| 13:50.59 | Mery | night wobin |
| 13:51.31 | s|loup | night |
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| 14:16.15 | sylvanaar | whats it short for again ClassName.Function(self) = self:Function() |
| 14:21.08 | wereHamster | ClassName.Function(ClassName) = ClassName:Function() |
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| 14:49.31 | |Shadow| | Built In nVidia GeForce 6100 GPU High Definition 1920x1440 <-- i imagine that can take WoW ok? |
| 14:49.35 | |Shadow| | in MC and stuff |
| 14:50.03 | JoshBorke | WoW is more CPU intensive than GPU intensive |
| 14:50.11 | JoshBorke | and it's not multi-threaded :-( |
| 14:50.20 | |Shadow| | well yea but its got a 3.8ghz in there so i assume that can handle it |
| 14:50.33 | JoshBorke | then you're fine :-) |
| 14:50.45 | |Shadow| | my friends looking for a new pc and im aiming at a p4 3ghz 1gb ram and 256mb graphics |
| 14:50.51 | |Shadow| | that sound like a good bench mark to aim at? |
| 14:51.07 | JoshBorke | hm. if you can, pony up for the c2d |
| 14:51.16 | |Shadow| | c2d? |
| 14:51.19 | JoshBorke | core 2 duo |
| 14:51.30 | JoshBorke | it's leaps and bounds better than the p4 |
| 14:51.34 | |Shadow| | well we are just wandering around ebay lol |
| 14:51.42 | |Shadow| | because we don't have that much of a budget |
| 14:52.04 | JoshBorke | i'm just saying :-) the improvements are massive |
| 14:52.10 | |Shadow| | ok :P |
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| 14:55.51 | |Shadow| | hmm what sorta graphics card would be ok |
| 14:56.02 | |Shadow| | GeForce 256MB PCI Video Graphics Card ? |
| 15:02.09 | JoshBorke | i dunn |
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| 15:02.14 | JoshBorke | that seems a little on the low side |
| 15:02.25 | JoshBorke | i'd think you'd want at least agp |
| 15:02.31 | JoshBorke | i had a geforce 4200 that worked great |
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| 15:42.12 | Vallerius_work | morning (evening?) teomyr |
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| 16:02.37 | Werik | ello |
| 16:03.56 | JoshBorke | ola |
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| 16:37.23 | Dwah | hey |
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| 16:39.17 | Mery | hey |
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| 17:03.57 | JoshBorke | blah! has anyone used weak-tables? |
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| 17:19.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dont evne know when a table is wek or strong :p |
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| 17:20.56 | JoshBorke | can someone tell me what is returned when you do UnitCastingInfo('player') when not casting? |
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| 17:28.10 | Cairenn | morning guys |
| 17:28.23 | eternally777 | Good morning Cairenn |
| 17:28.27 | Cairenn | so, do I dare ask ... has anyone magically received their keys over night? |
| 17:28.44 | JoshBorke | morning Cairenn! |
| 17:28.57 | JoshBorke | anyone logged into beta atm? |
| 17:28.58 | eternally777 | Not at all :P |
| 17:28.59 | kaiden | nope cairenn |
| 17:29.12 | kaiden | blizz doesn't love us |
| 17:29.16 | kaiden | :P |
| 17:29.22 | Cairenn | what I figured ... okay, thanks guys, will send another email and have him push them out again |
| 17:29.24 | eternally777 | I think Blizz is pulling our legs with this one. |
| 17:29.35 | eternally777 | Okie dokie, thank *you* |
| 17:32.09 | Cairenn | email sent |
| 17:37.21 | Kirkburn | In case no-one had heard this: TBC will be released on Jan 16th (http://www.blizzard.co.uk/press/061109.shtml) |
| 17:37.51 | Kirkburn | Now to find a shop stocking the Collectors Edition : |
| 17:37.53 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 17:40.18 | teomyr | i'm still torn between "buy" and "don't buy" :/ |
| 17:40.39 | teomyr | a lot of my friends will stop playing when tbc is out |
| 17:42.55 | cogwheel | why? |
| 17:43.14 | Kirkburn | That sounds .... odd |
| 17:43.25 | Kirkburn | Not more "I hate the UI changes" people? |
| 17:43.46 | Gryphen | weird, a lot of my friends who have stopped playing will start when tbc is out |
| 17:44.28 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> 2.0 UI Changes http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6447 | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7 | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 |
| 17:44.31 | teomyr | don't really know... maybe because they don't want to level multiple chars to level 70 or because they're unhappy about the paladin/shaman-change |
| 17:44.36 | Werik | There isn't much new in the expansion. just another skin |
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| 17:45.33 | cogwheel | [Cu]Werik: O.o |
| 17:45.36 | Kirkburn | Werik, have you even played it!? |
| 17:45.40 | wereHamster | is 'Tempest Keep (EU)' the PvP realm? |
| 17:45.42 | teomyr | personally, i'm too tempted by the new content, so i'll probably buy it anyway :D |
| 17:45.46 | Maldivia | Cairenn: hehe, was just about to say, if you shouldnt have it in topic :) |
| 17:45.46 | Kirkburn | PvE |
| 17:45.49 | wereHamster | :(( |
| 17:45.53 | [Cu]Werik | I did |
| 17:45.58 | wereHamster | I copied my character to the PvP realm |
| 17:46.08 | Maldivia | wereHamster: you have 4 copies |
| 17:46.09 | Kaso | you can copy more than once |
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| 17:46.16 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 17:46.16 | Neuro_Medivh | If you like WoW, you'll like TBC. |
| 17:46.20 | Neuro_Medivh | It's that simple |
| 17:46.59 | cogwheel | [Cu]Werik: how do you define an entirely new continent, plus new zones in the old ones, plus a new profession and multiple new dungeons as "not much new"? |
| 17:47.02 | Kirkburn | teomyr, what's to be unhappy about the Shaman/Pally changes? What changes? That the sides are now equal? I don't understand ... |
| 17:47.29 | cogwheel | i'm not too keen on the shaman/pally issue myself, but i really don't think it's gamebreaking |
| 17:47.54 | [Cu]Werik | It's just quest/xp grind to 70 then loot grind |
| 17:47.54 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 17:48.02 | Neuro_Medivh | My issues with TBC are the same issues I have with the live game |
| 17:48.06 | Neuro_Medivh | That's all WoW is |
| 17:48.07 | teomyr | Kirkburn: the "uniqueness" of this class is lost, or so they say ;) |
| 17:48.17 | Kirkburn | Silly people :P |
| 17:48.22 | cogwheel | that's kind of a "you might as well quit now" attitude... :| |
| 17:48.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys where do i neter outland ? |
| 17:48.56 | cogwheel | blasted lands |
| 17:48.59 | cogwheel | dark portal |
| 17:49.06 | Kirkburn | Uh yeah, er ... wouldn't changing it from quest/xp grind and loot grind to ... er ... a different game? |
| 17:49.36 | teomyr | i heard it would take as much time/xp form 60 to 70 as from 1-60, is this (still) true? |
| 17:49.49 | Kirkburn | Big blue thing, you can get a quest at the little camp just before it |
| 17:50.04 | Neuro_Medivh | not sure, I made it from 60-66 in about 8 days, but then I ran out of quests |
| 17:50.04 | Kirkburn | I managed 60-61 in about 8-9 hours |
| 17:50.13 | Kirkburn | (this is after the latest XP tweaks) |
| 17:50.22 | Neuro_Medivh | and then they upped the xp |
| 17:50.28 | teomyr | hmm |
| 17:50.29 | Kaso | *coough* overpowered warlocks 8cough* |
| 17:50.30 | cogwheel | teomyr: there's already a few level 67 (the current level cap) blood elves & draenei in the beta... you tell me :P |
| 17:50.36 | Kirkburn | More like 40-60 perhaps |
| 17:50.42 | teomyr | cogwheel: :D |
| 17:50.46 | cogwheel | yeah... 40-60 sounds reasonable |
| 17:51.14 | Neuro_Medivh | My only concern is running out of quests |
| 17:51.24 | Cairenn | okay, just had one key arrive in the ace channel, check your email guys |
| 17:51.24 | cogwheel | the first 67 Blood Elf pally even got a paladin trainer named after him :) |
| 17:51.28 | teomyr | i hope so... i'm probably not the only one with multiple 60s |
| 17:51.38 | Kirkburn | Neuro_Medivh, they upped the quest reward XP, plus there's still more quests to add :) |
| 17:52.08 | Neuro_Medivh | I know.. but i'm sitting at 66 with about 4 bubbles to go to 67 with no quests to do except a few Auchnidoun ones |
| 17:52.08 | Kirkburn | 60-61 was all spent doing HFP quests, never needed to leave the zone for, say, Zangarmarsh |
| 17:52.21 | Neuro_Medivh | Same here, I didn't hit Zang till 62 |
| 17:52.36 | Neuro_Medivh | then Terrokar at 64ish |
| 17:52.57 | Kaso | you know what boggles me about Zangarmarsh |
| 17:53.02 | teomyr | need key! *sob* |
| 17:53.04 | Kaso | the bloody blindweed |
| 17:53.23 | Kirkburn | Kaso, why so? |
| 17:53.30 | teomyr | your talk about your beta experiences is making me jealous! :D |
| 17:53.37 | Adrine | Key = received! |
| 17:53.45 | Kaso | well its a level 40 herb, in a level 62 zone? whats the point |
| 17:55.44 | cogwheel | Kaso: placeholder, maybe? |
| 17:55.56 | Kaso | hmm, thats a point |
| 17:56.15 | Cairenn | yay! |
| 17:56.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | i had me key about 3 daya ago :p |
| 17:56.56 | Kirkburn | Me too, I was being mean :P |
| 17:57.10 | Cairenn | yay! |
| 17:57.12 | eternally777 | just kiding :P |
| 17:57.15 | eternally777 | Didn't really get it |
| 17:57.16 | Cairenn | crap |
| 17:57.20 | Cairenn | don't do that! |
| 17:57.34 | teomyr | Cairenn: is there any deadline for the giveaway? |
| 17:57.41 | Cairenn | end of the month |
| 17:57.44 | Cairenn | 30 Nov |
| 17:57.50 | teomyr | nice |
| 17:57.55 | teomyr | some more time to finish my mod :D |
| 17:58.20 | eternally777 | Altho my GoogleTalk is popping up like a jack russell tarrier because people keep responding to the thread. |
| 17:58.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | gus as for a more ui aproch are there any files on the new looknig fo group ui ? |
| 17:59.23 | Kirkburn | |FF|Im2good4u, see http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ and download the UI files? |
| 17:59.52 | |FF|Im2good4u | thanks :p |
| 18:00.03 | Cairenn | gettting more reports of keys on the 2 threads on wowi |
| 18:00.18 | Kirkburn | Good sign :) |
| 18:02.04 | MentalPower|Univ | ~timriker |
| 18:02.05 | purl | from memory, timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 18:02.35 | teomyr | is there any way to retrieve the level at which a spell is learned in-game? |
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| 18:02.56 | Kaso | not unless your at the trainer i belive |
| 18:02.58 | Kirkburn | You probably have to visit a trainer? |
| 18:03.16 | teomyr | crap |
| 18:03.29 | Kirkburn | Same way you can't see your recipes without opening the trade windows |
| 18:03.34 | Kirkburn | (I guess) |
| 18:03.43 | eternally777 | WTB |
| 18:04.04 | Kirkburn | ... space? |
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| 18:05.58 | Kaso | teomyr i guess your thinking for minimum buffing levels? |
| 18:06.53 | kaiden | Cairenn, i got my key just so you know |
| 18:06.59 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 18:07.12 | kaiden | haven't been watching chat so dunno if i'm late on that ;P |
| 18:07.52 | [Cu]Werik | lizzard is proud to announce that World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade will be in stores nationwide starting on January 16, 2007. |
| 18:08.08 | kaiden | yay i finally have a date, now i can request my time off work |
| 18:08.09 | MentalPower|Univ | wohoo! |
| 18:08.11 | Maldivia | lizzard... is that a new company? |
| 18:08.13 | MentalPower|Univ | source? |
| 18:08.21 | [Cu]Werik | worldofwarcraft.com |
| 18:08.49 | Adrine | http://www.blizzard.co.uk/press/061109.shtml |
| 18:08.50 | Cairenn | it's in the channel topic guys, it's also posted on the front page of the site, with a link to the press release ;) |
| 18:09.05 | [Cu]Werik | :)) |
| 18:09.19 | Cairenn | silly people don't read channel topics |
| 18:09.29 | Adrine | Channel topics are like stickies. |
| 18:09.32 | Adrine | They're there, but no one reads them. |
| 18:09.44 | [Cu]Werik | haha |
| 18:10.07 | teomyr | Kaso: no, it's about that threat-thing i've been working at |
| 18:10.20 | Kaso | ooh, sounds interesting |
| 18:10.49 | teomyr | Kaso: i'm trying to find out the formula that determines how much threat non-damaging spells (like curse of weakness) create |
| 18:11.14 | teomyr | Kaso: they do create different levels of threat, that's for sure; my pet needs multiple hits to take aggro off me |
| 18:11.40 | Cairenn | okay, with that hopefully all sorted out ... I have to afk a bit to run some long over-due errands, back later |
| 18:12.00 | teomyr | Kaso: i think it's spell_level*2, but i'm not quite sure |
| 18:12.15 | teomyr | Kaso: that's why i need the spell level :) |
| 18:12.18 | Kaso | very interesting :> |
| 18:12.26 | Kaso | guess you're gonna have to keep a database |
| 18:12.34 | teomyr | Kaso: unfortunately yes :( |
| 18:12.57 | teomyr | Kaso: i need it for my warlock/hunter pet aggro meter addon |
| 18:13.00 | Neuro_Medivh | hey, are eMachines brand computers those crap-ass super-economy ones? |
| 18:13.08 | JoshBork1 | td; |
| 18:13.10 | JoshBork1 | yes |
| 18:13.22 | Kaso | thats a good idea, whenever im playing my hunter i allways wish i had a person threat meter |
| 18:13.24 | Neuro_Medivh | that's what I thought... still might be worth it for my roommate |
| 18:13.30 | teomyr | :D |
| 18:14.02 | Neuro_Medivh | 200 bucks for a complete machine + 17" monitor is a good deal |
| 18:23.29 | teomyr | i hate lag |
| 18:23.58 | teomyr | i attack an enemy to see when i gain aggro, and by the time the lag spike is over he's already dead |
| 18:27.36 | JoshBork1 | lol teomyr |
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| 18:30.08 | malreth | GET to know me!!! |
| 18:30.42 | zenzelezz | 404 |
| 18:31.05 | zenzelezz | actually, no... that should have been a "bad request" |
| 18:31.20 | teomyr | btw, vallerius, are you there? :) |
| 18:32.46 | Kaso | woah! i appear to be getting spammed with ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED messages :< |
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| 18:33.41 | malreth | then stop |
| 18:33.43 | malreth | stop using addons |
| 18:33.48 | malreth | they're a fad, anyway |
| 18:33.57 | malreth | woo! |
| 18:34.02 | Kaso | yah, your proberly right :> |
| 18:34.05 | Kirkburn | Addons are for nubs :P |
| 18:34.11 | malreth | i ordered the spicy barbeque... and it is indeed spicy |
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| 18:35.48 | Kaso | if you SW:D an evading mob you take 1 damage apparently ^_- |
| 18:36.05 | Shadowed | don't SW:D mobs with one health then! |
| 18:36.34 | teomyr | facts to know! concussive shot has an innate hate value of 16! |
| 18:36.51 | Shadowed | doesn't concussive shot hit for 16 damage |
| 18:37.04 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:37.05 | teomyr | it doesn't do any damage |
| 18:37.09 | teomyr | hey ckknight |
| 18:37.21 | teomyr | it does cause threat, however |
| 18:37.29 | Vallerius_work | teomyr: yo. |
| 18:37.51 | teomyr | Vallerius_work: i was afk when you greeted me. hi! :D |
| 18:39.01 | Vallerius_work | teomyr: new bugfix release coming out real soon :D |
| 18:39.20 | [Liquidor] | BE AFRAID !! http://www.mobileguru.co.uk/Jokes/largest.jpg |
| 18:39.39 | teomyr | Vallerius_work: nice :D |
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| 18:43.53 | Kaso | I think im going to have to write myself an addon that displays when its safe to SW:D |
| 18:43.54 | Kirkburn | I just noticed something ... I see no Blizzard_ folders in my TBC addons folder |
| 18:44.10 | krka | anyone here familiar with Linksys WRT54GL router? |
| 18:44.17 | Kaso | i do kirkburn |
| 18:44.23 | Cide | Kaso: all the time with a sufficient amount of +dmg :) |
| 18:44.39 | malreth | yow! that was a spicy sandwich |
| 18:44.44 | Cide | as long as you don't die from it, of course... and pvp is another story |
| 18:44.46 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 18:44.53 | malreth | i'll quench the spiciness with some coca-cola... |
| 18:45.08 | Kaso | ofc, i think it'd be nice to a red/green light telling you if you should take damage or not |
| 18:45.23 | Shadowed | I'd never use SW:D in pvp really |
| 18:45.35 | Kirkburn | Kaso, odd :/ |
| 18:45.54 | Adrine | krka: I have a WRT54G, if that counts. |
| 18:46.04 | Kaso | really? I've only had it 5min but MB/SW:D combos seem awesome for burst damage |
| 18:46.07 | krka | it does, depending on what version it is |
| 18:46.13 | krka | are you running custom firmware on it? |
| 18:46.28 | krka | WRT54G v4 is the same as WRT54GL, afaik |
| 18:46.37 | Adrine | Yup, DD-WRT |
| 18:46.37 | krka | v5 uses VxWorks instead of linux |
| 18:46.45 | krka | what's your opinion of it? |
| 18:46.48 | Adrine | I love it |
| 18:46.50 | krka | i'm considering buying |
| 18:46.52 | Adrine | So glad I'm using it |
| 18:46.52 | krka | what do you use it for? |
| 18:46.56 | krka | anything cool? |
| 18:47.00 | krka | like running webserver on it? :) |
| 18:47.03 | krka | or just plain routing |
| 18:47.05 | zenzelezz | so... what's SW:D? |
| 18:47.08 | krka | using wireless? |
| 18:47.09 | Tain | I think the L has more RAM. |
| 18:47.14 | Adrine | Just plain routing with wireless, yes. |
| 18:47.24 | krka | Tain: depends on age i think, they lowered the ram on the G |
| 18:47.36 | krka | the old G had the same as the new GL, afaik |
| 18:47.41 | krka | Tain using it too? |
| 18:47.42 | Adrine | I installed DD-WRT to get rid of a connection caching issue in the official Linksys firmware, and then boosted by signal strength while I was at it to drown out of neighbors. :) |
| 18:47.47 | Tain | Yeah, if I remember right they lowered the ram on the G and then brought out the GL with more. |
| 18:47.55 | Tain | So yeah the GL has the same as the old G. |
| 18:47.59 | Adrine | I live in an apartment complex with 14 wireless networks visible from my computer room. |
| 18:48.00 | krka | sure seems like a popular router |
| 18:48.10 | Tain | But yeah I'm using it too with DDWRT |
| 18:48.12 | krka | so you'd recommend it? i've only heard good things about it so far |
| 18:48.16 | Adrine | I've been very happy with mine. |
| 18:48.20 | [Liquidor] | check the class of the player with this weapon: http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/8eeff2bcd8.jpg |
| 18:48.20 | krka | and dd-wrt is the best firmware? |
| 18:48.24 | Tain | Zero issues here. |
| 18:48.29 | krka | there's a whole bunch of them apparently |
| 18:48.39 | Adrine | dd-wrt is the only custom firmware I've used, but I really like it. |
| 18:48.45 | krka | in #lua, someone had installed lua on his router :) |
| 18:48.57 | Adrine | Heh, that's awesome |
| 18:49.09 | krka | how's the performance? bandwith wise |
| 18:49.14 | Adrine | No complaints. |
| 18:49.22 | krka | both purely using the switch / wireless / wan-lan |
| 18:49.30 | Adrine | At least when I can get a signal. My neighbors are fond of 2.4GHz wireless phones. :( |
| 18:49.35 | krka | ah |
| 18:49.41 | krka | that won't be an issue for me, i think |
| 18:49.45 | Adrine | For the most part, performance is fantastic. |
| 18:49.52 | krka | i live close to Old People(tm) |
| 18:49.53 | Tain | I think that's where the idea for routers now that have built in bit torrent clients came from. I remember reading someone running dd-wrt and having bit torrent running on it saving to a samba share elsewhere |
| 18:50.15 | krka | Tain: really? bittorrent on a router, that's awesome cool |
| 18:50.21 | krka | would eat a lot of memory though |
| 18:50.37 | Tain | Yeah, you can buy routers with built in torrent clients and a harddrive now. |
| 18:50.43 | krka | can you ssh to it and treat it as a regular linux box? |
| 18:50.48 | Adrine | Yup |
| 18:50.49 | Tain | So you don't even have to have a computer running |
| 18:50.52 | Tain | Yeah absolutely |
| 18:50.59 | krka | good stuff |
| 18:51.08 | krka | thne i dont have to redirect port 22 to my own computer |
| 18:51.20 | krka | i can just install sshd on it, and tunnel from there over the local interface? =) |
| 18:51.54 | Adrine | DD-WRT comes with sshd bundled |
| 18:52.07 | krka | ooh... here's an idea... can i set up name based virtual hosts? |
| 18:52.25 | krka | so that X.no-ip.info goes to my comp on the network, and Y.no-ip.info goes to another? |
| 18:52.31 | krka | for http obviously |
| 18:52.52 | Adrine | If you can get named running on it, sure. |
| 18:52.57 | krka | i'd need a simple http server that just forwards the requests.. wonder if apache is too heavyweight |
| 18:53.07 | Adrine | Eh, I wouldn't go with apache on a router |
| 18:53.27 | krka | need to look up named |
| 18:53.36 | Adrine | Actually, ignore the named comment :P |
| 18:53.39 | Adrine | I wasn't thinking right. |
| 18:54.00 | Adrine | I'm sure you could hack it up somehow though |
| 18:54.03 | krka | ah, it's for domain controls |
| 18:54.08 | Adrine | yeah, DNS server. |
| 18:54.13 | krka | what's the processor type? |
| 18:54.18 | Adrine | No clue. |
| 18:54.20 | krka | arm? mips? some x86? |
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| 18:54.29 | Adrine | Pretty sure it's not x86 |
| 18:54.32 | krka | could probably compile my own forwarding in worst case |
| 18:54.33 | Adrine | But I'm not positive. |
| 18:54.38 | krka | should be fairly simple |
| 18:54.49 | Adrine | You could probably even just set up a python/ruby/lua script that does it |
| 18:54.56 | krka | yeah |
| 18:55.06 | krka | it just needs to listen on port 80 and forward |
| 18:55.22 | krka | never done anything like that before though :) |
| 18:55.53 | Adrine | If you can get python running it'd be a breeze. |
| 18:56.04 | krka | thanks! you've been most helpful in my decision |
| 18:57.09 | Adrine | Glad to be of service. |
| 18:57.24 | krka | hm, wouldn't even need any memory for that... just forward the request, the response should take care of itself |
| 18:59.21 | Adrine | 'zactly |
| 19:00.12 | krka | i'd even be surprised if anyone hasn't implemented it already |
| 19:00.19 | Adrine | I'm sure it's out there somewhere |
| 19:00.34 | Adrine | I'd pop into my router and look around for options to do what you want, but I'm not at home right now, and I have remote access disabled. |
| 19:00.59 | krka | my gf would be pissed if i constantly played with the router and broke her internet :P |
| 19:01.02 | krka | but it'd be worth it |
| 19:01.12 | Adrine | Tell her that you're making it faster |
| 19:01.22 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 19:01.27 | JoshBorke | is that what you tell your wife Adrine? |
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| 19:12.14 | krka | irony? |
| 19:12.15 | teomyr | :D |
| 19:15.10 | Kirkburn | Argh, 15 mins to EU TBC server shutdown :/ |
| 19:15.29 | Kaso | :< |
| 19:15.29 | Kaso | suckyness |
| 19:15.43 | Kaso | i'd just started coding my sw:d mod |
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| 19:17.36 | wereHamster | how come that I don't see the EU TBC servers? |
| 19:17.56 | Kaso | have you upgraded your account? |
| 19:18.29 | wereHamster | how upgraded? |
| 19:18.35 | ckknight | wereHamster, server shutdown |
| 19:18.39 | Kaso | theres a link in the key email |
| 19:18.54 | wereHamster | yeah, but shutdown means they were up at some pint in the past, right? |
| 19:19.13 | Kaso | theyre up right now, you should see them |
| 19:19.14 | [Cu]Werik | ... |
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| 19:20.14 | wereHamster | .. I should have read the email :( |
| 19:20.49 | Kaso | its wierd that you can transfer your char before you upgrade account though |
| 19:21.45 | Shadowed | eh? you can |
| 19:21.53 | Kaso | mmm |
| 19:21.56 | wereHamster | yeah, now I see the realms.. |
| 19:22.45 | Kaso | i have two copies of my char because i transfered one eariler just messing around, found it there waiting for me when i upgraded |
| 19:23.13 | zenzelezz | narcissist |
| 19:24.22 | wereHamster | I hope nobody will be offended by my character named 'Shag' :p |
| 19:24.39 | deci | i am deeply offended |
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| 19:24.59 | Kaso | are you horde or alliance? |
| 19:25.03 | Shadowed | reported |
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| 19:25.05 | Shadowed | ! |
| 19:25.06 | wereHamster | alliance |
| 19:25.19 | krka | buying the router now! |
| 19:25.24 | krka | yay me |
| 19:25.27 | Kaso | then im going to gank you every moment of the day for that horrifc name! (yes i kow its pve) |
| 19:25.40 | deci | i demand you rename yourself Shagadellic |
| 19:25.47 | wereHamster | I'll make suer I'm PvP flagged all teh time.. |
| 19:26.16 | Kaso | I love these bog creatures you can herblise to skin |
| 19:26.37 | Kaso | wow i spelt that well |
| 19:26.42 | Neuro_Medivh | krka, what kind of router did you get? |
| 19:27.22 | Neuro_Medivh | Netgear Super-G 108Mbps Wireless Broadband Router - $9.99 |
| 19:27.31 | wereHamster | I've been playing with 'Shag' since the open beta, and I haven't seen anyone offended by my name until just now.. |
| 19:28.46 | krka | Linksys WRT54GL |
| 19:29.20 | krka | what happened just now then? |
| 19:29.29 | krka | get the rename-thingy? |
| 19:29.35 | krka | (i got that too when transfering) |
| 19:30.04 | Kirkburn | 6 hours TBC server shutdown starting ..... now |
| 19:30.33 | Elkano | so the plans for this evening are vaporised :( |
| 19:31.38 | Kaso | maybe ill actually get some work done tonight |
| 19:32.04 | Kaso | I hope they fix the bears in this patch |
| 19:32.07 | wereHamster | krka, no, I didn't have to rename my character (yet, and I hope it stays so..), but nobody ever felt offended by the name until now |
| 19:33.59 | Shadowed | wb |
| 19:34.11 | wereHamster | I see that deci is the only one, but still.. I don't think many in my guild know what my name means.. |
| 19:34.19 | deci | haha |
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| 19:41.29 | JoshBorke | ~seen mikk |
| 19:41.43 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1d 3h 57m 23s ago, saying: 'i was more thinking along the lines of doing quests and seeing a bit of the world'. |
| 19:45.23 | zespri | there is a bird named shag here in new zealand... |
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| 19:46.26 | krka | Adrine or Tain: the installation instructions for dd-wrt says you should use IE instead of mozilla, did you follow that? |
| 19:46.38 | Adrine | I think I used Mozilla, but I don't remember. |
| 19:47.57 | wereHamster | When I first told my parents that my character is named 'shag', they looked up the word in a dictionary and asked if I meant the bird - I had to to explain them that I thought about the other meaning of the word |
| 19:48.07 | krka | since i run linux, IE is kind of a hassle to get running :P |
| 19:48.13 | Adrine | Zoinks, Shag! |
| 19:48.36 | Adrine | krka: I'd say that's just idiotproofing, for the most part. You're probably fine. |
| 19:49.00 | krka | true |
| 19:49.05 | krka | also, what version did you use? |
| 19:49.06 | krka | v23? |
| 19:49.21 | Adrine | I don't remember. Whatever the latest was at the time. |
| 19:49.49 | wereHamster | krka, ever tried ies4linux ? |
| 19:50.05 | krka | nope |
| 19:51.20 | krka | hm, need to read up on VoIP, i think |
| 19:52.31 | SB1-Work | VoIP = hot |
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| 19:53.55 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> 2.0 UI Changes http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6832 | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7 | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | Mod Author guilds on Hellfire (US) and on Tempest Keep (EU). CastSpell (A)/TargetUnit(H) | TBC Release Date 16 Jan 07 |
| 20:00.35 | thr | hmm |
| 20:00.51 | thr | i need a good tool to rip dvds, and yes it's not an copyrighted dvd but i still ned to rip it |
| 20:00.55 | thr | any free options available? |
| 20:01.02 | haste | mencoder! |
| 20:01.14 | thr | link? |
| 20:01.34 | haste | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html |
| 20:01.47 | haste | might be a little bit tricky to use :) |
| 20:02.03 | [Cu]Werik | ! |
| 20:02.18 | [Cu]Werik | Hungarians > all |
| 20:02.28 | haste | ookey :p |
| 20:02.40 | Cairenn|afk | nuh uh, Canadians! |
| 20:02.53 | [Cu]Werik | Aww, nono |
| 20:02.59 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* yup yup |
| 20:03.32 | [Cu]Werik | No? >:) |
| 20:03.36 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 20:03.52 | JoshBorke | hm. for some reason i read *nod* as *noob* and i was very confused |
| 20:04.02 | [Cu]Werik | See! |
| 20:04.11 | Cairenn|afk | hmph! |
| 20:06.04 | SB1-Work | Cairenn|afk, you really shouldn't have posted that they re-sent all of the keys. Now I'm back to checking every five minutes ;) |
| 20:06.10 | Cairenn|afk | sorry |
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| 20:07.09 | Cairenn|afk | I just hope they all go through okay this time, because they won't send them a 3rd time |
| 20:07.13 | thr | haste: is mencoder build in mplayer? |
| 20:07.31 | haste | thr: it's a tool which comes with mplayer |
| 20:07.43 | thr | ok and i can rip any dvds with it? |
| 20:07.47 | SB1-Work | Well, here's to hoping. |
| 20:07.49 | haste | with mencoder, yes |
| 20:07.51 | JoshBorke | meh, i'm ok with not getting a key :-) |
| 20:07.54 | haste | read the documentation |
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| 20:08.08 | thr | well, i'm in a REAL hurry so i dont got time to read anything ;> |
| 20:08.11 | thr | REAL REAL hurry ; |
| 20:10.20 | haste | mencoder dvd:// -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -o output.avi |
| 20:10.22 | haste | should do the trick |
| 20:10.27 | haste | not very compressed tho' :p |
| 20:13.05 | zespri | <Cairenn|afk> I just hope they all go through okay this time, because they won't send them a 3rd time |
| 20:13.07 | thr | shouldn't it be |
| 20:13.15 | thr | hmm |
| 20:13.17 | thr | ill tr |
| 20:13.18 | thr | thnx |
| 20:13.20 | zespri | like it's sombody elses fault that they didn't arrive first two times =) |
| 20:14.00 | thr | haste |
| 20:14.17 | thr | does it rip |
| 20:14.17 | thr | everything? i mean menus n stuff? |
| 20:14.29 | thr | because i want the custom made menus with, etc. it's chapterized.. or whatever it'sc alled ;P |
| 20:15.20 | haste | nah, only the movie |
| 20:15.35 | thr | hmm ok, no subs no nothing? dah =/ |
| 20:15.41 | thr | it's a custom made video from my old school |
| 20:15.48 | thr | and it's with menus and subs n stuff |
| 20:15.53 | Neuro_Medivh | dvdfab can do that |
| 20:15.55 | Neuro_Medivh | or roxio |
| 20:16.00 | thr | Neuro_Medivh: are they free? ;< |
| 20:16.11 | Neuro_Medivh | dvdfab might have a free trial |
| 20:16.32 | thr | but prolly limited tho |
| 20:16.32 | Neuro_Medivh | www.dvdfab.com |
| 20:17.05 | thr | oh |
| 20:17.06 | thr | 30 day |
| 20:17.08 | thr | fully functional |
| 20:17.09 | thr | trial |
| 20:17.09 | thr | yay |
| 20:17.11 | thr | <3 thnx Neuro_Medivh |
| 20:17.23 | Neuro_Medivh | np |
| 20:17.29 | Neuro_Medivh | that's the program I use |
| 20:17.32 | Neuro_Medivh | though I have the full version |
| 20:17.44 | thr | and my guess is you did not buy it ;P |
| 20:17.54 | Neuro_Medivh | God bless the 5th amendment |
| 20:18.04 | thr | ;D |
| 20:18.51 | thr | so this copys all the vobs, etc to a directory? |
| 20:19.10 | zenzelezz | out of curiosity, does anyone else have many people with odd character names in their guild? |
| 20:19.37 | zenzelezz | I can't quite get over how our MT is "Crazyannus" |
| 20:20.00 | Shadowed | not really, our MT is Goldy |
| 20:20.19 | [Cu]Werik | Did you read the patch notes? |
| 20:20.47 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, this week's South Park makes me wanna go watch some old Buck Rogers |
| 20:20.56 | Neuro_Medivh | thr, I assumed that's what you wanted. |
| 20:20.57 | [Cu]Werik | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.30 | thr | Neuro_Medivh: thnx this works perfect |
| 20:21.34 | thr | <3 |
| 20:21.39 | thr | very nice program |
| 20:21.42 | thr | might even buy it |
| 20:22.01 | thr | and fast! |
| 20:22.05 | thr | 13minutes for the whole thing |
| 20:22.06 | Neuro_Medivh | get the one that has both versions |
| 20:22.19 | thr | platinum u mean? |
| 20:22.27 | Neuro_Medivh | no, gold and platinum do different things |
| 20:22.30 | thr | kk |
| 20:22.32 | Neuro_Medivh | there's a third 'combo' version |
| 20:22.35 | Neuro_Medivh | that has both |
| 20:22.36 | thr | well i downloaded platinum |
| 20:22.38 | thr | and it works |
| 20:22.42 | thr | fine |
| 20:22.44 | thr | trial version |
| 20:22.58 | thr | (sorry for writing a bit twitchy, grinding with my warrior at the same time ;P9 |
| 20:23.08 | thr | lvl 24 > 25 in 50min /played ;P |
| 20:23.10 | Osagasu | I wanna be in the mod author guilds! D: |
| 20:23.26 | thr | or well |
| 20:23.30 | Neuro_Medivh | Ahh, I see, it's platinum you want |
| 20:23.33 | thr | abit over an hour, soz hadn't checkd for a while |
| 20:23.40 | Neuro_Medivh | there's "express" and "gold" |
| 20:23.46 | Neuro_Medivh | and platinum has both |
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| 20:24.06 | thr | ah ok |
| 20:24.35 | Neuro_Medivh | I guess they discontinued the express package, which is good... but so far, I haven't found anything that program can't copy |
| 20:25.27 | thr | very nice program indeed |
| 20:25.40 | thr | very solid / fast and a nice GUI |
| 20:25.46 | thr | often you don't get both those thing in one |
| 20:25.48 | thr | program. |
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| 20:32.51 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.59 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.37 | ckknight | condition? |
| 20:33.55 | ckknight | oh, those things |
| 20:33.55 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 20:34.02 | ckknight | malreth, link? |
| 20:34.07 | thr | ye |
| 20:34.09 | thr | the conditions ;P |
| 20:34.14 | Osagasu | Oh cool. |
| 20:34.18 | malreth | it's in the ui changes thread |
| 20:34.23 | malreth | slouken just posted it |
| 20:34.39 | Osagasu | I could see cool things done with that |
| 20:36.07 | Mikma | any info on the new BC patch? |
| 20:37.15 | ckknight | ooh, cool |
| 20:37.17 | Maldivia | "/equip, /target, /assist and /focus all support the macro conditional system." |
| 20:37.48 | Maldivia | hmm, what will "/assist [target=focus] target" do ? :) |
| 20:37.50 | SB1-Work | I just want to be able to set focus and likewise return to focus with macros |
| 20:37.55 | SB1-Work | (and hotkeys) |
| 20:38.02 | SB1-Work | No more finding my sheep out of the mess of them all :P |
| 20:38.27 | SB1-Work | No more, "is that one mine?" *resheeps* *watches giant mob desheep and gank me* |
| 20:38.28 | SB1-Work | "Guess not" |
| 20:38.40 | Mikma | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1252686&postId=12319103&sid=1#0 :P |
| 20:38.46 | Maldivia | SB1: /cast [target=focus] Polymorph: Pig |
| 20:39.24 | SB1-Work | Yeah, but can you *set* focus in combat? I seem to vaugely recall some post saying that you couldn't |
| 20:39.30 | Mikma | Maldivia: where did you find those? |
| 20:39.40 | ckknight | SB1-Work, you can't programmatically. |
| 20:39.59 | Maldivia | Mikma: on the concise thread on the US forums |
| 20:40.15 | SB1-Work | ckknight, define 'programmatically'... secure templates? etc? |
| 20:40.21 | SB1-Work | I just want a hotkey to set my focus in combat ;P |
| 20:40.28 | SB1-Work | (Or macro, or whatever) |
| 20:40.32 | ckknight | SB1-Work, with /script |
| 20:41.05 | Maldivia | SB1: /focus |
| 20:41.13 | SB1-Work | Maldivia, awesome. |
| 20:41.16 | Maldivia | and your current target as now your focus |
| 20:41.34 | Maldivia | SB1: can also be done by secure templates |
| 20:41.39 | cogwheel | Focus has a keybinding iirc |
| 20:41.41 | SB1-Work | Good. |
| 20:41.44 | SB1-Work | Even better! |
| 20:41.57 | Mikma | hah |
| 20:42.03 | Mikma | people have to respec again |
| 20:42.13 | Mikma | "Before you run off to see everything, please don't forget to check to see if you need to respec." |
| 20:43.01 | Mikma | "Don't be like me and run out to slay a fearsome beast only to find you're missing half your skills, all your talents, and hit like 6 week old kitten. " |
| 20:43.01 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Inside (n=nowhere@en34.ips.PaulBunyan.net) |
| 20:43.01 | Maldivia | there was a patch today? |
| 20:43.01 | SB1-Work | That raises the cap to 70 |
| 20:43.01 | SB1-Work | Among other things |
| 20:43.02 | Mikma | MOP poster said it: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1252756&sid=1 |
| 20:43.02 | ckknight | new patch: 2.0.2.6108 - 12.9 MiB |
| 20:43.02 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.02 | Inside | BETA KEY |
| 20:43.02 | ckknight | Inside, you US? |
| 20:43.02 | ckknight | or EU? |
| 20:43.03 | Inside | I hope so |
| 20:43.03 | Inside | US |
| 20:43.08 | Cairenn|afk | YAY |
| 20:43.08 | Mikma | 12.9. not bad at all |
| 20:43.16 | Inside | noooooooooooooo |
| 20:43.18 | Inside | I'm not 55+ |
| 20:43.25 | ckknight | Inside, ? |
| 20:43.28 | Mikma | ? |
| 20:43.31 | Inside | Go to the following URL to copy up to 4 characters to the beta test realms: https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/game/ |
| 20:43.36 | AnduinLothar | get someone to summon you |
| 20:43.39 | Inside | ou will be able to bring over up to 4 level 55+ characters to travel through the Dark Portal. |
| 20:43.41 | Cairenn|afk | they don't have to be 55+ |
| 20:43.41 | Inside | That's what I mean |
| 20:44.09 | Mikma | well i transfered my lvl46 druid 2 days ago |
| 20:44.11 | AnduinLothar | you just cant get throught the portal till 55, no? |
| 20:44.12 | Mikma | or was it yesterday |
| 20:44.14 | Inside | Oh |
| 20:44.23 | Inside | Weird, I submitted my mod tuesday late night |
| 20:44.23 | Inside | >_> |
| 20:44.37 | wereHamster | Don't be like me and run out to slay a fearsome beast only to find you're missing half your skills, all your talents, and hit like 6 week old kitten. |
| 20:44.39 | nevcairiel | you can copy your chars, but you cannot go through the portal <55 |
| 20:44.44 | wereHamster | :P |
| 20:44.46 | Inside | portal? |
| 20:44.52 | SB1-Work | ... |
| 20:44.53 | nevcairiel | dark portal to outlands |
| 20:44.57 | Inside | oh |
| 20:45.02 | Inside | XD |
| 20:45.13 | Inside | This email has been sitting in my email box like 5 from the top since last night. /forehead |
| 20:45.20 | SB1-Work | "Yeah, *THAT* portal." lol |
| 20:45.46 | ckknight | gah, why haven't I gotten my key, then? |
| 20:45.48 | ckknight | blah. |
| 20:45.49 | Inside | I don't pay attention much to WoW. |
| 20:46.01 | SB1-Work | Inside, then give me your key! |
| 20:46.06 | Inside | Lies. |
| 20:46.06 | SB1-Work | I'll put it to use! |
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| 20:46.16 | SB1-Work | No lies |
| 20:46.26 | Inside | I mean much to WoW history/etc... I just play and let new things hit me like a sack of bricks. |
| 20:47.08 | SB1-Work | ~lart Inside |
| 20:48.55 | Inside | GAH. 1.9Gigs. |
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| 20:49.45 | Inside | I'm on a crappy 1mbit/d |
| 20:49.49 | Inside | down, I mean |
| 20:50.08 | weab | patched as of today even? |
| 20:50.19 | weab | impressive |
| 20:50.24 | ckknight | I only see two seeds |
| 20:50.25 | SB1-Work | Brother is in beta (randomly selected) |
| 20:50.30 | ckknight | 95 peers |
| 20:50.31 | SB1-Work | Brother is quite literally a WoW whore |
| 20:50.38 | Inside | Is there anyway to limit download speed? My connection is kind of bloate. |
| 20:50.39 | ckknight | and I'm not connected to any of em |
| 20:50.43 | Inside | d |
| 20:50.47 | SB1-Work | Inside, other programs |
| 20:50.47 | weab | he's chinese? |
| 20:50.49 | Adrine | I have the client downloaded and patched as of two weeks ago or so. |
| 20:50.55 | SB1-Work | weab, he might as well be |
| 20:50.55 | Adrine | So hopefully, it won't take long to get up to speed. |
| 20:51.09 | Inside | Oh yeah, how do you strip the torrent? |
| 20:51.23 | Adrine | Don't think you can anymore. Or they made it a lot harder to, anyway. |
| 20:51.46 | Inside | Why? |
| 20:51.50 | Adrine | Back when WoW launched I just used ResHack to pull the torrent out of the downloader, but they fixed that pretty fast. |
| 20:51.56 | ckknight | you can, Adrine |
| 20:52.01 | ckknight | I use WowTorrentEx |
| 20:52.02 | ckknight | works fine. |
| 20:52.10 | Adrine | Oh, custom app then? |
| 20:52.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:52.21 | Adrine | Granted, I haven't looked around for stuff like that in a while. |
| 20:52.31 | Shadowed | Inside: should have downloaded the client last week :p |
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| 20:52.34 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.40 | Inside | I didn't know I was gonna get into the beta. |
| 20:52.49 | Inside | I didn't particularly care, at that. |
| 20:53.16 | Adrine | Heh, does anyone remember the bug where if you hit "Cancel" at the "Connecting" dialog, it dumped you past the queue? |
| 20:53.26 | [Cu]Werik | Why is it goot to strip the torrent? |
| 20:53.31 | [Cu]Werik | good* -.- |
| 20:53.38 | Adrine | So you can use your own torrent client with bandwidth limiting and the like |
| 20:53.39 | Inside | So I can use azureus and throttle the download speed. |
| 20:53.44 | SB1-Work | [Cu]Werik, you can use any other program to download it |
| 20:53.50 | [Cu]Werik | Oo |
| 20:53.51 | Inside | Without ping times of 2000ms+ to irc/ventrilo/etc |
| 20:53.53 | Adrine | uTorrent FTW :) |
| 20:53.59 | SB1-Work | Which means up/down stream throttling, seeding to a specific point, etc. |
| 20:54.06 | [Cu]Werik | I just limit it with netlimiter |
| 20:54.12 | [Cu]Werik | :) |
| 20:55.01 | Inside | does that cost money >_> |
| 20:55.25 | [Cu]Werik | Money? What's money? :) |
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| 20:57.10 | [Cu]Werik | But yes, uTorrent is good :) |
| 20:58.37 | Inside | what am I supposed to dl? |
| 20:58.42 | Inside | 2.0.0.59991? |
| 20:59.05 | Cairenn|afk | you've got some patching to go |
| 20:59.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Neuro_Medivh (n=Neuro@cpe-76-187-75-113.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 20:59.26 | Inside | well, I used that wowtorrentex, just hoping I'm getting the right installer, you hear? |
| 21:00.06 | Shadowed | Inside: you've got aboutt 2.5GB to download total |
| 21:00.16 | Shadowed | the 1.9GB client, then around 4-5 patches |
| 21:01.10 | Kirkburn | Anyone have a link for the enGB torrent? Vista dislikes the Blizz downloader |
| 21:01.33 | Kirkburn | It fails and deletes itself before I can save it and extract |
| 21:03.22 | ckknight | it deletes itself? |
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| 21:04.05 | Shadowed | Think he means the download errors out and it deletes it since it wasn't a complete download |
| 21:04.24 | JoshBorke | i think AL is having trouble |
| 21:04.44 | Kirkburn | Shadowed, yup |
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| 21:04.56 | Kirkburn | It doesn't get the file permissions is needs, is my guess |
| 21:05.28 | Kirkburn | I think the dl completes, but cannot run, thinks it didn't work, and removes itself |
| 21:06.02 | ckknight | Kirkburn, can't you use http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WoWTorrentEx-2.zip? |
| 21:06.02 | Kaso | what even would i watch to check when my Stats change? |
| 21:07.20 | Kirkburn | How can I? I can't get the patch in the first place! |
| 21:09.00 | Kirkburn | Hmm, gonna try changing the folder permissions |
| 21:10.27 | Kirkburn | Woo, that worked |
| 21:10.43 | Kirkburn | 13.6 MB, incredibly fast |
| 21:11.03 | Kaso | downloading fast you say? |
| 21:11.11 | Kaso | Couldnt do me a favour couldya |
| 21:11.36 | Kirkburn | Host it? |
| 21:11.41 | Kaso | <3 |
| 21:11.46 | Kaso | if possible |
| 21:11.50 | Kirkburn | Yeah, can do |
| 21:11.55 | Kaso | thanks very much |
| 21:12.09 | Tem|AFK | wait, there's a patch today? |
| 21:12.18 | Kirkburn | TBC yes |
| 21:12.19 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:12.23 | Tem|AFK | bah |
| 21:12.28 | Kirkburn | 6 hr downtime |
| 21:12.43 | Kaso | well. only bout 5 left |
| 21:12.48 | Kirkburn | Level 70, flying mounts, netherstorm, and more :) |
| 21:13.06 | ckknight | I want to know about code changes |
| 21:13.07 | ckknight | blah |
| 21:13.08 | Kaso | oh really? theyre opening it all up? wow |
| 21:13.11 | Mikma | and still annoying actionbars! |
| 21:13.53 | ckknight | Kaso, not all of it. |
| 21:13.58 | Dwah | do you still need a beat key to play? |
| 21:14.27 | Kaso | ah well not like ill see any of the >67 any yime soon |
| 21:15.27 | zespri_work | KirkBurn are you allright with the toorent? |
| 21:16.06 | Kaso | so, yeh, what even do i need to watch to tell when a player's stats change ? |
| 21:16.10 | Kirkburn | Yeah, once I got the file permissions set okay, worked perfectly |
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| 21:19.59 | zespri_work | Well if they did it once, no reason not to have done it twice =) |
| 21:20.28 | zespri_work | I'm trying to comfort myself saying that I don't like WoW that much and that this is the time to unsubscribe anyway =) |
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| 21:21.56 | Jklaroe|Sleep | I got my key |
| 21:21.57 | Jklaroe|Sleep | woot |
| 21:22.11 | Kirkburn | Good to hear :D |
| 21:22.11 | Kaso | woot |
| 21:22.19 | Kaso | Carienn will be happy to hear that |
| 21:22.35 | Inside | Does Cairenn|afk manage the wowinterface site? |
| 21:22.40 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 21:22.51 | Cairenn | I do |
| 21:22.55 | JoshBorke | wb Cairenn |
| 21:22.57 | Kirkburn | Kaso, uploading to host now |
| 21:23.02 | Kaso | thanks mate |
| 21:23.19 | Kaso | i hear they fixed the "Evil Bears of Death"© this patch |
| 21:23.41 | Shadowed | ? |
| 21:23.55 | Kaso | The Fel Reavers :> |
| 21:24.31 | Tem|AFK | aww |
| 21:24.32 | Shadowed | ah |
| 21:24.36 | Shadowed | what'd they change |
| 21:24.49 | Tem|AFK | probably put them back as fel reavers |
| 21:24.51 | Kaso | theyre now the correct model i assume |
| 21:24.56 | Tem|AFK | odd as that may sound... |
| 21:25.02 | Kirkburn | Now they're giant walking ice cream cones!! :P |
| 21:25.20 | Kirkburn | Invisible one |
| 21:25.25 | Kirkburn | ...s |
| 21:25.59 | Kirkburn | It's true! I heard it on teh internets! |
| 21:30.43 | kaiden | lies teh internets can't talk! |
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| 21:41.20 | krka | SPAM! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6015-For_All_Indents_And_Purposes_(for_WoW_2.0).html |
| 21:41.44 | Kaso | I love that name so much |
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| 21:47.17 | Kaso | you know the difficulty colors, green yellow orange and red, are those stored anywhere? |
| 21:47.27 | Shadowed | I think so, check TargetFrame.lua? |
| 21:47.56 | Shadowed | GetDifficultyColor( <level> ); |
| 21:48.07 | Shadowed | okay, maybe not :p |
| 21:48.26 | wereHamster | krka, hat was updated for 2.0? |
| 21:48.31 | krka | yes |
| 21:49.07 | Shadowed | Kaso: QuestLogFrame.lua see function GetDifficultyColor |
| 21:49.15 | Shadowed | it's QuestDifficultyColor |
| 21:49.15 | zenzelezz | cool, new hat! |
| 21:49.20 | Kaso | thanks |
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| 21:54.37 | `-FISKER_Q | always good that VS 2006 isn't humongous |
| 21:54.51 | `-FISKER_Q | Only like 13GB or something like that :/ |
| 21:55.00 | `-FISKER_Q | because you have to use that virtual pc crap and such |
| 22:05.37 | Kirkburn | Ooh, I like the nVidia homepage today, cool bit of Flash: www.nvidia.com |
| 22:06.09 | SB1-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=35795017&sid=1 <-- lool |
| 22:06.20 | Kaso | omg it moved! |
| 22:06.53 | Kirkburn | Kaso, exactly what I thought :P |
| 22:06.57 | Shadowed | wow |
| 22:06.59 | Kirkburn | Made me double-take |
| 22:07.01 | Shadowed | that's a nice animation |
| 22:07.30 | teomyr | SB1-Work: lol |
| 22:07.40 | Kirkburn | Apparently it's Adrianne Curry |
| 22:07.50 | SB1-Work | teomyr, read post #34 |
| 22:07.56 | SB1-Work | I'm lol'ing IRL atm due to that post |
| 22:08.29 | teomyr | xD |
| 22:08.48 | SB1-Work | Crap, people are going to walk back here and wonder what's so funny |
| 22:08.50 | SB1-Work | <-- still laughing IRL |
| 22:08.59 | teomyr | have a look at the comments on this one http://www.thottbot.com/?i=13816 |
| 22:09.04 | teomyr | also enjoyable :D |
| 22:09.42 | Kirkburn | Weird, the patch reset my gfx settings |
| 22:09.55 | Kaso | my proxy isnt likingg thottbot atm :< |
| 22:10.01 | SB1-Work | rofl |
| 22:10.02 | Kirkburn | teomyr, I *knew* you'd link that :P |
| 22:10.03 | SB1-Work | That's awesome |
| 22:10.38 | SB1-Work | Oh good crap, save me |
| 22:10.41 | SB1-Work | My poor lungs |
| 22:10.42 | Kaso | actually, could someone do me a favour seeing as you're on thottbot, how many ranks does SW:D and Mind Blast have 1-70 |
| 22:11.20 | Shadowed | Two i believe |
| 22:11.33 | Shadowed | SW:D is two according to the blizzasrd page |
| 22:11.35 | Shadowed | blizzard* |
| 22:11.51 | Shadowed | Mindblast gets 2 levels, one at 63 and another at 69 |
| 22:11.55 | Shadowed | ranks* |
| 22:12.01 | Kaso | which is top rank? |
| 22:12.02 | teomyr | Kirkburn: :D |
| 22:12.34 | Shadowed | the last MB rank is 11 at level 69 |
| 22:12.39 | Kaso | thanks alot |
| 22:13.50 | Shadowed | SW:D as two ranks, rank 1 at 62 and rank 2 at 60 |
| 22:14.17 | Kaso | 70 i assume |
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| 22:14.27 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:15.15 | Shadowed | er yeah 70 not 60 |
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| 22:22.21 | Mery | "Hunters will no longer die while using "Feign Death" but will stand up once the timer runs out." awwwwwwwww that was always soooo much fun |
| 22:22.37 | Kaso | what the hell, why did they change that |
| 22:22.48 | Mery | i dunno... |
| 22:23.06 | Mery | doesn't make sense at all |
| 22:23.13 | SB1-Work | lol |
| 22:23.18 | SB1-Work | They died when their timer ran out? |
| 22:23.22 | SB1-Work | That's awesome |
| 22:24.53 | Mery | yeah, what was even more fun: when "salvory deviate delight" or whatever they are called could give you feign death as one of the random effects there were always some not knowing it dieing in the middle of IF |
| 22:25.03 | malreth | ~playing with fire |
| 22:25.04 | purl | the recreational use of fire will result in a burn |
| 22:25.10 | malreth | yeeeeessssssssss! |
| 22:25.10 | SB1-Work | buhaha |
| 22:25.18 | teomyr | lol |
| 22:25.19 | malreth | ~playing with fire |
| 22:25.20 | purl | when Chuck Norris plays with fire, he burns it |
| 22:25.31 | SB1-Work | Good crap you shouldn't have done that |
| 22:25.38 | malreth | oh, i had to |
| 22:25.39 | kaiden | Kirkburn, ahhh are the beta servers back up?! |
| 22:25.43 | SB1-Work | I've gotta go shut the door now before people wonder what's up |
| 22:25.50 | kaiden | eek.. was scrolled up.. |
| 22:25.51 | kaiden | lol |
| 22:26.37 | SB1-Work | " Playing with fire is a lot like playing with a cheap hooker. Somehow, Something, is going to burn. And it will probably be you. " |
| 22:26.52 | malreth | ~SB1-Work |
| 22:26.53 | purl | type ~playing with fire to get SB1-Work in trouble |
| 22:27.06 | SB1-Work | lol |
| 22:27.19 | SB1-Work | ~playing with fire |
| 22:27.20 | purl | when Chuck Norris plays with fire, he burns it |
| 22:27.25 | SB1-Work | Check that out, I burned myself! :( |
| 22:27.33 | Dwah | lol |
| 22:27.39 | wereHamster | are the EU servers down or do I again have a problem with my client? |
| 22:27.41 | malreth | that's what you get for playing with fire |
| 22:27.43 | Mery | "This disk doesn't have enough free space to install World of Warcraft Update. (More than 1.1 GB is required, but only 833.4 MB is available.) Please free up space." oh come on why does a 12MB patch need 1.1GB to install... |
| 22:28.03 | kaiden | Mery, ouch to be you :):( |
| 22:28.24 | Mery | well I can easily free up more than enough disk space |
| 22:28.33 | malreth | delete your pr0n |
| 22:28.36 | cryogen | Mery: because it has to write the new file? and keep the old one until its done? |
| 22:28.37 | kaiden | that's what i was about to say |
| 22:28.38 | kaiden | lol |
| 22:28.45 | Mery | hahaha |
| 22:29.09 | cryogen | youd be pretty pissed if it failed half way through and rendered your client unpatchable and unplayable |
| 22:29.24 | Mery | no but I got a lot of TV recorded on my computer which I wanted to make dvd's of, well one less movie |
| 22:31.03 | Mery | and yeah "patch.MPQ.Temporary" they make a temp copy |
| 22:33.13 | wereHamster | omg.. tpost number 69 (on the fourth page) |
| 22:33.55 | SB1-Work | Yeah |
| 22:34.02 | SB1-Work | Post #69 = AMAZING |
| 22:34.09 | SB1-Work | Also see 117 |
| 22:34.18 | SB1-Work | (Page 6) |
| 22:35.13 | SB1-Work | 124 is rather impressive also |
| 22:35.45 | wereHamster | I didn't know 'playing with fire' is a talent :o |
| 22:35.50 | SB1-Work | It sure is |
| 22:36.17 | SB1-Work | It's also what I'm going to pick up once I can |
| 22:36.43 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ckknight_ (n=ckknight@cust20418.lava.net) |
| 22:38.14 | Cairenn | any hockey fans here? |
| 22:38.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Suntiger (i=moonwolf@g173217.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 22:39.08 | Elkano | thx Cairenn :) |
| 22:39.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cide (i=Cide@81-226-233-5-no60.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 22:39.17 | Cairenn | got yours? |
| 22:39.31 | Inside | Oh hey Cairenn :P |
| 22:39.35 | Inside | Thanks :D Got a key n_n |
| 22:39.42 | Inside | off to write a visual UNO mod for TBC |
| 22:39.46 | Elkano | well, I assume you just accepted my addon submission ^^ |
| 22:39.54 | Cairenn | oh, yeah |
| 22:40.09 | Elkano | key is in since thuesday |
| 22:40.15 | Neuro_Medivh | Got your key just in time to wait for the servers to come back up =) |
| 22:40.37 | Shadowed | lol |
| 22:40.50 | Shadowed | what was the email from again, WoWTBCBeta@blizzard.com? |
| 22:41.02 | weab | any word on the rest of us still hanging? seems like a lot from the first batch still haven't gotten keys. |
| 22:41.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mike-N-Go_ (n=Mike@74.92.248.14) |
| 22:41.43 | Cairenn | all I know is what I was told and told you guys this morning |
| 22:41.46 | Cairenn | they resent them |
| 22:41.59 | Cairenn | if they don't show up this time, they won't resend them a 3rd |
| 22:42.02 | Cairenn | my hands are tied |
| 22:42.27 | Xuerian | Seems like they kinda sent them selectively, spam filters or no |
| 22:42.29 | zespri_work | Cairenn, do you know was I in the batch that is supposed to receive keys already? |
| 22:42.34 | Kaso | Shadowed mine was from noreplyeu@blizzard.com |
| 22:43.05 | Cairenn | zespri, you were in the first batch |
| 22:43.21 | kaiden | yeah i was in the batch you requested resent today cairenn |
| 22:43.23 | zespri_work | Cairenn, thank you |
| 22:43.25 | kaiden | and got my key |
| 22:43.30 | weab | i think someone at blizzard just completely fails at working email. |
| 22:43.46 | Cairenn | I have no idea what the hell is going on, and there's absolutely nothing more I can do about it at this point |
| 22:43.49 | kaiden | weab, it could be their e-mail providers blocked the e-mail |
| 22:43.52 | kaiden | it's not cairenn's fault |
| 22:43.57 | zespri_work | kaiden, what was the e-mail address the key has come form plese? |
| 22:44.07 | weab | i'm certainly not blaming Cairenn by any stretch of the imagination |
| 22:44.09 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 22:44.22 | Cairenn | I know you guys aren't, I don't think anyone is |
| 22:44.23 | weab | i know this is all blizzard's incompetence |
| 22:44.27 | Cairenn | I'm just bloody frustrated |
| 22:44.33 | SB1-Work | weab, I wouldn't say that. |
| 22:44.39 | kaiden | WoWExpansionBeta@blizzard.com |
| 22:44.42 | kaiden | that's where i got my key from |
| 22:44.43 | SB1-Work | You'd be surprised how many things can just plain "go wrong" |
| 22:44.45 | din` | maybe they dont have all the keys they think they do? |
| 22:44.53 | Shadowed | how can they not? :p |
| 22:44.55 | Shadowed | they generate them |
| 22:44.57 | Tuller | kaiden: what kind of a timeframe did you get it in? |
| 22:45.04 | din` | i mean, the email addresses |
| 22:45.16 | kaiden | i signed up on november 1st |
| 22:45.27 | zespri_work | kaiden, thanks, will add to my "non-blocking" list |
| 22:45.37 | Tuller | kaiden: I mean, what time did the email arrive? |
| 22:45.49 | kaiden | 9:49AM |
| 22:45.54 | kaiden | 4 hours ago |
| 22:46.09 | Shadowed | Industrial got his about a hour ago though |
| 22:46.33 | Kaso | Hmm, You know the "new" Character sheet in TBC, shows lots of nice new info like spell damage, however looking over Iriel's Changes i cant see any Getter functions for the most of the new infomation that is displayed, does that mean im going to have to do some GetText()'ing or other lly, or am i missing something? |
| 22:47.04 | Shadowed | Check the FrameXML? |
| 22:47.14 | Shadowed | I think they put up a beta interface extracter for TBc |
| 22:47.26 | Kaso | CharacterFrame.lua is mostly empty |
| 22:47.40 | Shadowed | odd |
| 22:47.52 | Kaso | oh wait |
| 22:48.06 | Shadowed | or, check the WDN |
| 22:48.08 | Kaso | im being stupid, i need to look at PaperDollFrame |
| 22:48.15 | Shadowed | probably! |
| 22:48.26 | Shadowed | Cairenn: Worst case we don't get the keys, at least you tried and still got some people the keys |
| 22:48.52 | SB1-Work | Cairenn, on a lighter note, two people (one in second batch, on in the third) that I know, recieved their keys today |
| 22:49.12 | kaiden | sometimes i just wanna slap players.. |
| 22:49.19 | kaiden | a Night Elf named Elronn |
| 22:49.24 | Cairenn | I'm just so frustrated, I worked so damn hard to get this for you guys, and it's all going wrong and everyone's all pissed off |
| 22:49.41 | SB1-Work | Cairenn, not everyone. |
| 22:50.01 | SB1-Work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=42775343&sid=1&pageNo=6#119 <-- just that prick who doesn't know RL from a game ;) |
| 22:50.16 | Cairenn | yeah, he's the one that has me really upset atm |
| 22:50.18 | kaiden | Cairenn, just relax and go level up to 70! :) |
| 22:50.22 | Industrial | < Shadowed> Industrial got his about a hour ago though |
| 22:50.23 | Industrial | fuck you |
| 22:50.24 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:50.30 | Kaso | GetSpellBonusDamage wonderful |
| 22:50.34 | Cairenn | *and* wondering why the fuck I bothered, too, to be honest |
| 22:50.44 | zespri_work | Everybody knows it's not your fault even remotely, so don't be frustrated... let us be =) |
| 22:50.51 | SB1-Work | Indeed |
| 22:51.04 | Industrial | Cairenn: no blame to you |
| 22:51.06 | SB1-Work | You got a very large number of people access to the beta that they wouldn't have had otherwise |
| 22:51.08 | Industrial | no blame at all really |
| 22:51.14 | weab | you know why you bothered. doing something for the community. |
| 22:51.19 | Cairenn | and I don't blame blizzard either |
| 22:51.31 | weab | which the majority of the community appreciates wholeheartedly. |
| 22:51.32 | Cairenn | I know very well that sometimes emails just ... poof ... it really does happen |
| 22:51.44 | weab | but people are people |
| 22:52.00 | weab | and will act as people do |
| 22:52.05 | Industrial | Shadowed: why did you say I received my email, was that for real? |
| 22:52.16 | zespri_work | This is the case when it's best not to find out whose fault it is , because there is no harm really, in case of any outcome. |
| 22:52.31 | Shadowed | Industrial: Oh, I though you got yours |
| 22:52.35 | Shadowed | or maybe it was Inside? |
| 22:52.39 | zespri_work | You've done your best to help us (as you always are doing) and you've helped many |
| 22:52.42 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 22:53.09 | Cairenn | I'm glad you guys are being understanding |
| 22:53.14 | Cairenn | it's just .... argh |
| 22:53.22 | SB1-Work | LOL |
| 22:53.28 | somenoob | ZOEMG! WTF MY KEY HAZNT COME !!! ONE |
| 22:53.29 | SB1-Work | And a friend just got a SECOND key! |
| 22:53.37 | kaiden | lol |
| 22:53.43 | Dwah | can you randomly get a key? |
| 22:53.50 | SB1-Work | Dwah, yes |
| 22:53.53 | kaiden | SB1-Work, yeah i got sick of some of those jerks that got multiple keys |
| 22:53.59 | Dwah | for jsut being a wow subscriber? |
| 22:54.02 | weab | yeah, the frustrating part for me is i had a few friends act dubiously and get keys, submitting half-hearted or stolen addons |
| 22:54.03 | SB1-Work | Dwah, yes |
| 22:54.08 | Dwah | ah |
| 22:54.08 | kaiden | i know someone who got 5 keys |
| 22:54.11 | SB1-Work | kaiden, I'm hoping he'll let me have one :P |
| 22:54.24 | weab | yet people more deserving aren't getting them |
| 22:54.27 | weab | that's why i'm frustrated |
| 22:54.29 | Cairenn | weab: >< |
| 22:54.33 | kaiden | and what ticks me off the most he sold some of them on ebay... |
| 22:54.33 | Dwah | man I havent even talked any on my srver who got one |
| 22:54.35 | SB1-Work | cogwheel, I must admit, you know how to troll effectively on the forums |
| 22:54.51 | Cairenn | weab: if you know someone that has posted an addon that isn't their own, I damn well want to know about it |
| 22:55.06 | Dwah | g2g cya |
| 22:55.16 | weab | he wouldn't tell me the name he posted under |
| 22:55.17 | Cairenn | they'll be banned from WoWI and I'll have their key pulled |
| 22:55.20 | SB1-Work | ... and another friend just got his second |
| 22:55.34 | Shadowed | weab: do you know there email? |
| 22:55.44 | Cairenn | we've been doing what we can to weed that out, but ... |
| 22:55.45 | SB1-Work | So two friends jsut recieved two unique kets.. |
| 22:55.46 | weab | no. he goes by filth on my server though |
| 22:55.48 | weab | that's all i know |
| 22:55.49 | Industrial | Shadowed: when why how did you think i got mine? |
| 22:55.55 | SB1-Work | *keys |
| 22:55.59 | Shadowed | Because i confused Inside with Industrial :p |
| 22:56.07 | Industrial | aha |
| 22:56.08 | Shadowed | and i'm trying to talk while playing against a team in WSG |
| 22:56.08 | weab | another friend wrote a half-hearted pos just to get in that he doesn't plan to update. in his defense, the addon does work and he did write it |
| 22:56.28 | Shadowed | he wouldnt tell you the type of addon? |
| 22:57.04 | weab | didn't say. just that he took someone else's addon and change the toc, is what i gathered |
| 22:57.16 | Industrial | :| |
| 22:57.49 | Cairenn | we knew there'd be a lot of that (1/2 hearted crap that they'll never update, they'll never even be back to the site) but we felt, and Blizz agreed, that it was worth it to get the legit authors in |
| 22:57.58 | weab | yeah |
| 22:58.02 | weab | i'm ok with that |
| 22:58.04 | Shadowed | wouldn't be that hard to find them if blizzard gave a list of who actually turned the key in |
| 22:58.08 | zespri_work | to be honest, when you do such an action you would expect that some people would do that |
| 22:58.25 | Industrial | wtb key 10 dollars |
| 22:58.26 | zespri_work | so there is nothing surprising in people taking other ppl addons and submitting them |
| 22:58.28 | Industrial | :> |
| 22:58.30 | weab | but the frustration comes from the legit authors not getting in and the less legit ones are :( |
| 22:58.40 | Cairenn | yup |
| 22:58.43 | Shadowed | the community usually finds out those kind of authors anyway |
| 22:58.55 | Shadowed | wouldn't be suprised if in a week or two someonefinds the copied addon |
| 22:58.59 | zespri_work | I'm slow as always |
| 22:59.15 | Cairenn | all the legit authors, you guys, signed up in the first wave, and those seem to be the ones that just aren't showing up |
| 22:59.16 | zespri_work | While I'm typing somebody else says exactly the same |
| 22:59.17 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kyahx|afk (n=kyahx@144.13.213.102) |
| 22:59.27 | weab | Cairenn: /nod |
| 22:59.35 | Neuro_Medivh | Actually, I'm not a legit author... I got in via PTR Honor Contest =) |
| 22:59.44 | Cairenn | I just ... /sigh |
| 22:59.46 | Cairenn | anyway |
| 22:59.51 | Cairenn | there's not a thing more I can do |
| 22:59.56 | Kyahx|afk | Cairenn: Are there still people from the first batch waiting on keys? Im starting to get paranoid :( |
| 22:59.58 | Industrial | I just ... have no key |
| 22:59.59 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:00.00 | weab | yeah. oh well |
| 23:00.00 | Kyahx|afk | first day, still nothing |
| 23:00.02 | Shadowed | did what you can, and we're thankful that you tried |
| 23:00.06 | Kyahx|afk | haha |
| 23:00.07 | Neuro_Medivh | There's always firebombing, Cairenn... |
| 23:00.09 | Industrial | Kyahx|afk: yes me |
| 23:00.15 | weab | we do appreciate your effort and all the crap you've had to put up with as a result :P |
| 23:00.27 | Neuro_Medivh | people might be less inclined to cheat their way into a Beta key if it might get their house firebombed |
| 23:00.29 | Kyahx|afk | I think my question just answered itself |
| 23:00.34 | din` | i believe i'm first batch as well |
| 23:00.42 | zespri_work | I don't have a key too, Industrial. Prepare yourself to the worst outcome =) |
| 23:00.53 | Cairenn | well, and I want to be able to offer things like this again, and if I push Blizz too hard, they're gonna be pissed off with *me* and then I won't be able to |
| 23:00.58 | Industrial | give me a k give me an e give me a y, gooooo key! |
| 23:01.08 | Industrial | \o\ \o/ /o/ |
| 23:01.18 | Kyahx|afk | haha |
| 23:01.41 | zespri_work | ok lunch time |
| 23:01.52 | Kyahx|afk | It just make me sad to see everyone posting they got keys and all they ever uploaded was some UI compilation :( |
| 23:01.57 | Kyahx|afk | I didnt think compilations counted |
| 23:02.06 | krka | i got a friend to upload his "bg inc" which he made a while ago and just mostly kept private :) |
| 23:02.12 | krka | hope he gets his key soon |
| 23:02.20 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Thanks for all your work on this. |
| 23:02.42 | Maldivia | Cairenn: you have a rank in the Alliance EU UI guild named after you :) |
| 23:02.46 | krka | thanks indeed! |
| 23:02.49 | Industrial | Cairenn: you could do something like make people confirm they have the key (so you get a list of people that havent) |
| 23:02.50 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:03.04 | Industrial | Cairenn: and pop it up on wowi instead of the site so they AHVE to sign it :P |
| 23:03.35 | Shadowed | blizzard doesn't *have* to do anything, they could revoke all the keys if they wanted |
| 23:03.35 | Industrial | hm, did anyone get a key with gmail - maybe thats it |
| 23:03.41 | Shadowed | Industrial: thats not it |
| 23:03.43 | Shadowed | they'd be unpopular, but they could do it |
| 23:03.47 | Maldivia | Industrial: I got mine with gmail |
| 23:03.48 | krka | i got one on gmail |
| 23:04.01 | krka | got both mine on gmail actually |
| 23:04.10 | Industrial | rub it in |
| 23:04.10 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:04.23 | Maldivia | Cairenn: what did you "rofl" at? |
| 23:04.24 | Kyahx|afk | I used my campus e-mail |
| 23:04.28 | Kyahx|afk | =/ |
| 23:04.49 | Cairenn | Maldivia: your comment |
| 23:05.21 | Maldivia | Cairenn: Ok :) The ranks are Troll, MVP, Cairenn, Iriel, slouken :) |
| 23:05.25 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:05.32 | Shadowed | I was just going to tell the guy to fuck off! |
| 23:05.39 | Shadowed | oh, you mean the guild rank not the forum post |
| 23:05.39 | Industrial | Every day blizzard doesnt send me a key, god kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens |
| 23:05.46 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:06.06 | SB1-Work | lol |
| 23:06.13 | Kaso | arg, thottbot isnt working, how am i going to code now! |
| 23:06.24 | Industrial | thottbot whats that? |
| 23:06.26 | Neuro_Medivh | wowwiki? allakhazam? |
| 23:06.27 | Industrial | :E |
| 23:06.31 | Industrial | wowhead.com |
| 23:06.42 | Maldivia | Kaso: what you need from thottbot? |
| 23:06.48 | krka | how does thottbot help you code? O_o |
| 23:06.49 | Neuro_Medivh | thottbot works for me |
| 23:06.55 | Shadowed | It helps if you're trying to get spell data |
| 23:06.59 | Kaso | i need to find any +% damage auras a priest could get |
| 23:07.25 | Kaso | like shadowform, but, others |
| 23:07.34 | Maldivia | I use my own database for that :) |
| 23:07.43 | Shadowed | Kaso: You could ask in here too :p |
| 23:08.08 | Kaso | ok, well, which other +%spelldamage auras are commonly gettable |
| 23:08.19 | Shadowed | talent/passive wise? |
| 23:08.27 | SB1-Work | Anywho, time to head home. |
| 23:08.27 | SB1-Work | bbl. |
| 23:08.31 | Kaso | not talents, buffs |
| 23:08.58 | Kaso | things like BA and Thadius's buff etc |
| 23:09.01 | Shadowed | Shadow Form (15% shadow damage) and Power Infusion (20% spell dmg/healing) |
| 23:09.09 | Maldivia | Arcane Power, Power Infusion, Burning Adrenaline, Positive/Negative ? |
| 23:09.18 | Maldivia | those kind of buffs ? |
| 23:09.23 | Kaso | yah |
| 23:09.59 | Kaso | well, attually BA and thaddius arent that important, this is more a solo addon |
| 23:10.08 | Kaso | whats the BG's buffs called |
| 23:10.17 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 23:10.20 | Shadowed | Berserker, you do 30% more damage but take 10% more |
| 23:10.33 | Guillotine | hey all :) |
| 23:10.35 | Shadowed | AV ones? I don't know all of the names |
| 23:10.52 | Shadowed | Sorry, it's called Berserking not Berserker |
| 23:10.56 | Kaso | see this is why thott is so useful, you can just look up the spell mechanic :> |
| 23:11.19 | Shadowed | theres also an AV battle standard that increases the damage of all party members in 45y by 10% (only in AV) |
| 23:11.22 | Neuro_Medivh | Curse of the Shattered Hand |
| 23:12.04 | Kaso | Curse of the Shattered Hand? how much is that? |
| 23:12.22 | Neuro_Medivh | +5% |
| 23:12.27 | Neuro_Medivh | but you take +15% dmg |
| 23:13.05 | Kaso | ok, thats all great, any othe majorly common ones im missing |
| 23:13.20 | Neuro_Medivh | Thottbot isn't showing a lot of the new ones I know |
| 23:13.28 | Neuro_Medivh | doesn't have any of the PVP auras that I can find |
| 23:13.45 | Kaso | hmm |
| 23:14.08 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Kyahx|afk (n=kyahx@144.13.213.102) |
| 23:14.17 | Kaso | perhaps it would be better to scan the tooltip for "increases damage by (.+)%" or somerthing |
| 23:14.26 | Shadowed | Theres a couple in AV, but i can't recall them. I believe they're called Generals Warcry and Fury of Frostwolf though |
| 23:14.57 | Maldivia | Kaso: Avenging Wrath... if that's still in the pally book |
| 23:15.14 | Maldivia | Battle Standard |
| 23:15.23 | Maldivia | Death Wish |
| 23:15.28 | Mery | g'night |
| 23:15.36 | Kaso | my priest cant get Deathwish :> |
| 23:15.40 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 23:16.07 | Kaso | but, perhaps keeping a table of the effects is the wrong approch |
| 23:16.24 | Maldivia | General's Warcry |
| 23:16.57 | Shadowed | Kaso: what are you trying to do |
| 23:16.58 | Maldivia | Sanctity Aura |
| 23:17.51 | Kaso | its an addon to guess what'll happen when you use SW:Death, so i wanna estimate its damage output then compare that to the mobinfo hp value for the mob |
| 23:18.01 | Shadowed | ah that |
| 23:18.14 | Shadowed | yeah, you're better off scanning tooltips then you are keeping a database |
| 23:18.39 | Kaso | can someone give me the exact working of the shadowform tooltip |
| 23:19.24 | Shadowed | one sec i'll type it out |
| 23:19.28 | Maldivia | Assume a Shadowform, increasing your Shadow damage by 15% and reducing Physical damage done to you by 15%. However, you may not cast Holy spells while in this form. |
| 23:19.58 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 23:20.17 | Kaso | the buff tooltip, no the spell one |
| 23:20.53 | Kaso | maldivia is awesome. |
| 23:21.09 | Cide | http://craphound.com/images/pacmancharthumor.jpg |
| 23:21.14 | Cide | I laughed :( |
| 23:21.16 | Shadowed | oh that |
| 23:21.21 | Shadowed | the buff tooltip is |
| 23:21.21 | Shadowed | Shadow damage you deal increased by 15%. Physical damage you take reduced by 15%. You may not cast Holy spells. |
| 23:21.32 | Shadowed | haha cide |
| 23:21.49 | Kaso | http://kasoo.net/img/imgs/lost.gif |
| 23:22.56 | Cide | haha, nice |
| 23:25.07 | Industrial | so blizz isnt going to send any more keys? |
| 23:25.19 | Neuro_Medivh | Lost is like X-Files. They're just making it up as they go along. |
| 23:25.20 | Industrial | eg im scrood? |
| 23:25.44 | Neuro_Medivh | same thing Abrams did in Alias |
| 23:25.53 | Shadowed | Industrial: yes |
| 23:26.37 | Industrial | Neuro_Medivh: "Am I cating weird lately? "uhh yes uh.... cause uh... oh yeah you have an alien on your neck" |
| 23:26.37 | Industrial | Shadowed: bah thats just lame :< |
| 23:26.38 | Industrial | I think i jus died a little inside |
| 23:26.41 | Shadowed | have you been reading IRC the last hour? :p |
| 23:26.52 | Industrial | no dropped in in the middle of it |
| 23:27.27 | Industrial | wtb key 10$ ;\ |
| 23:27.42 | Industrial | me love you long time |
| 23:28.05 | Xuerian | Indy, how did you manage not to get a key? |
| 23:28.19 | Neuro_Medivh | avg price of a beta key on Ebay: 150 dollars |
| 23:28.33 | Industrial | Xuerian: nothing in my inbox |
| 23:28.39 | Xuerian | Sad =( |
| 23:28.50 | Industrial | very |
| 23:29.08 | Neuro_Medivh | oops, incorrect, $250 |
| 23:30.31 | Shadowed | 250$ gamble to get banned too :p |
| 23:32.38 | Neuro_Medivh | It's funny how people complain that 40 bucks for an expansion pack is too much, and no one will buy it, but the tons of people buying temporary beta keys for 250 a pop gives the lie to that argument |
| 23:33.25 | wereHamster | WTB running realm ;) |
| 23:33.39 | Kaso | whats the name of the PvP buff in hellfire |
| 23:33.44 | Shadowed | haha yeah Neebler |
| 23:33.46 | Shadowed | er Neuro_Medivh |
| 23:36.05 | Kaso | whats the buff limit in tbc |
| 23:36.19 | Industrial | 36kazillion |
| 23:37.32 | Shadowed | 40 I believe? |
| 23:38.06 | wereHamster | Kaso, you like 'Lost' ? |
| 23:38.09 | Tem | Afawk, there is no buff limit |
| 23:38.16 | Kaso | yes i like lost |
| 23:39.15 | wereHamster | Sometimes I find it really strange how the people react to situations.. and I think: see, this is a typical american |
| 23:40.05 | Shadowed | Vallerius: One of these days, i'm going to have to steal that colored icon feature in BFC |
| 23:40.13 | Neuro_Medivh | I liked Lost's first season |
| 23:40.19 | Neuro_Medivh | I sorta liked the second season |
| 23:40.51 | Neuro_Medivh | but it's becoming obvious that there's not a real overarching plotline. It's just mystery piled on top of mystery for as long as they can keep it going |
| 23:41.55 | kaiden | Lost is making a buck on stretching out their 1st seasons story line over as many seasons as they can |
| 23:42.04 | kaiden | there is a plotline it's just they intend on making you enjoy it |
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| 23:43.33 | Neuro_Medivh | Wish I could believe that. And I do watch it, but I have gotten to the point of fast forwarding past all the backstory now |
| 23:43.49 | Neuro_Medivh | cause the backstory feels less like character development and more like filler |
| 23:44.12 | Tain | I do think they just lost track of what really was good and bad about Lost. |
| 23:44.29 | Tain | They rush through some things, and drag out others, for no good reason. |
| 23:45.07 | kaiden | They are attempting to tell you why the island chose those people |
| 23:45.18 | Neuro_Medivh | I think they changed gears last season... they probably had some intricate plotline for Michael and Walt, then gave up on it |
| 23:45.19 | kaiden | it makes you feel like the island put it all together to bring them there |
| 23:45.41 | kaiden | Neuro_Medivh, yes the two chicks drunk driving in hawaii threw a kink into the story line |
| 23:46.05 | Neuro_Medivh | I once read an article about Babylon 5 |
| 23:46.14 | Neuro_Medivh | the writer set up a 5 year story |
| 23:46.36 | Neuro_Medivh | but had pre-determined 'back doors' to exit out any character where the actor became unavailable |
| 23:46.59 | Tain | Babylon 5 was a great show that got screwed up by the network. |
| 23:47.31 | Neuro_Medivh | Never was able to watch it... if it weren't for TiVo, I'd never be able to watch Lost or Heroes or any of those serialized shows |
| 23:47.48 | Tain | Like you said there was a 5 year story, but the network told the writer (J. Michael Strazynski) (sp.) during season 4 that they weren't bringing it back for season 5. |
| 23:47.57 | Tain | So he had to chop the story to end it in season 4. |
| 23:48.07 | Tain | Then the network said, "OH never mind we like it, do another year.) |
| 23:48.25 | Neuro_Medivh | the network mentality screws up a lot of shows |
| 23:48.33 | Neuro_Medivh | that's what destroyed Xfiles |
| 23:48.50 | Neuro_Medivh | it's a show built around a mystery, so you can't ever reveal the mystery |
| 23:48.54 | Tain | X-Files went on too long, in the end. |
| 23:49.00 | Neuro_Medivh | exactly |
| 23:49.07 | Neuro_Medivh | because it was too popular |
| 23:49.13 | Neuro_Medivh | well, popular for Fox |
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| 23:49.51 | Neuro_Medivh | Xfiles was built around Bait-and-switch |
| 23:50.04 | Neuro_Medivh | "We're finally gonna solve the mystery... OOPS! No we're not!" |
| 23:50.27 | Tain | It was the one-armed man! |
| 23:50.42 | Kirkburn | Ooh: "Blizzard today announced that the subscriber base for World of Warcraft has reached a new milestone, with 7.5 million players worldwide" |
| 23:50.56 | Neuro_Medivh | Whereas Lost is built on Matryoshka Dolls of Mystery |
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| 23:51.20 | Neuro_Medivh | Reveal one mystery, to find another underneath! Ad infinitum. |
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| 23:52.12 | Tain | Yeah, but Lost spends a lot of time building up to something really big, and once its revealed they just toss it aside. |
| 23:52.29 | wereHamster | like the white bear.. |
| 23:52.37 | gnorlish | i had to stop watching Lost |
| 23:52.40 | Neuro_Medivh | or the pirate ship |
| 23:52.43 | gnorlish | i was getting too angry |
| 23:52.55 | gnorlish | i never even watched the season 2 finale |
| 23:52.58 | gnorlish | no point |
| 23:53.16 | Neuro_Medivh | Right now I'm digging Heroes and BSG |
| 23:53.21 | Tain | The season 2 finale was good. |
| 23:53.39 | Tain | Except nothing that happened in the finale is even addressed now. |
| 23:53.48 | Tain | So it's a waste. |
| 23:54.03 | Neuro_Medivh | And no one is upset |
| 23:54.42 | Neuro_Medivh | "Our shower/electricity/washing machine/food storage is GONE! Oh well" |
| 23:55.42 | wereHamster | why should they be upset? they have new friends now :p |
| 23:56.55 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm still thinking that Lost is gonna end up being a huge anticlimax. Kind of like Alias; by the time Alias was over, no one cared anymore |
| 23:56.56 | Kaso | Maldivia |
| 23:57.01 | Maldivia | Kaso |
| 23:57.16 | Kaso | how do i make your website show me % damage taken debuffs |
| 23:58.06 | Maldivia | the same link I posted ealier, should show both buffs and debuffs |
| 23:58.46 | Kaso | those are increase damage delt, im looking for damage taken |
| 23:58.54 | Maldivia | ahh |
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