| 00:01.36 | TheZanke | well to be honest, i dont really know what i am doing...this si my first attepmts |
| 00:02.06 | TheZanke | i cant find like a rule book or a varible/function list anywhere...it amazes me how much u gotta remember |
| 00:02.26 | Maldivia | wowwiki.com is a good place to start |
| 00:02.36 | cogwheel | TheZanke: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 |
| 00:02.38 | TheZanke | alreay read it |
| 00:03.04 | TheZanke | i hav ethe 64pg lua manual printed.... looked into xml on w3schools, which was no help |
| 00:03.43 | TheZanke | its like "XML is something, yet nothing, if you make something it will do nothing towards anything" and i am like....wtf |
| 00:06.42 | MentalPower | omg, yet another reason I hate XML |
| 00:06.58 | TheZanke | what? |
| 00:07.18 | MentalPower | that thing you posted |
| 00:07.21 | TheZanke | ah |
| 00:07.51 | TheZanke | thats what it said... |
| 00:08.06 | MentalPower | anywho, I don't think the channels are available on Vars_Loaded |
| 00:08.11 | TheZanke | its like "ther eis no set stardard, you make things up as you go and then use them accordingly |
| 00:08.13 | TheZanke | i was like...well the addons that i am reading seem to follow a guideline |
| 00:10.11 | TheZanke | okay so anyways... |
| 00:12.32 | Corrodias | XML is a very, very simple idea |
| 00:12.39 | TheZanke | what i am looking for is for my addon to AUTOMATICALLY when i login on my druid post in lfg 'UnitLevel("player") .. " " .. UnitClass("player") .. " looking for group."' |
| 00:12.50 | Corrodias | tags, opening and closing. that's pretty much it. |
| 00:13.27 | TheZanke | simple yet, it would help me learn |
| 00:14.11 | Inside | um |
| 00:14.14 | TheZanke | like i wish i could find simple uis that i could read and firgure out how htey work...not the like 5000 line ones like auctioneer |
| 00:14.37 | Garoun|Loupana | Inside, do you hav ethe link to that addon I wrote and gave you last night? |
| 00:14.55 | Garoun|Loupana | that would probably help Zanke |
| 00:15.01 | TheZanke | anything would help ^^ |
| 00:15.27 | Corrodias | learning about XML itself won't help you make frames in WoW |
| 00:15.35 | Inside | No I don't D; |
| 00:15.37 | Garoun|Loupana | http://garoun.net/ui/fcf1.zip |
| 00:15.41 | TheZanke | sorry if i sound bad... but i think i will be able to catch on quick, i know c++, vb, basic, perl... etc... i run linux... this is jsu tnew to me |
| 00:15.42 | Inside | There we go! |
| 00:15.44 | Inside | All I did was open it |
| 00:15.45 | Inside | >_> |
| 00:15.47 | Inside | I didn't even dl that |
| 00:15.51 | Garoun|Loupana | that one will help with just seeing the basic starting point |
| 00:15.55 | Inside | I went to Lua after c++ |
| 00:16.00 | Inside | took me about 2-3 weeks to "understand" it XD |
| 00:16.05 | TheZanke | lawl |
| 00:16.20 | Corrodias | i don't use Lua enough to get the finer points |
| 00:16.38 | Corrodias | it's really straightforward for most things |
| 00:17.03 | Inside | Well, what was a bitch with lua wasn't learning it for me |
| 00:17.07 | Inside | it was integrating it as an API into my own game |
| 00:19.08 | TheZanke | should i read that whole lua handbook before even trying anything? |
| 00:19.35 | Corrodias | nah |
| 00:19.51 | Garoun|Loupana | that file I posted will show you the basic starting point for a mod |
| 00:20.06 | Inside | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 00:20.07 | Inside | read this |
| 00:20.16 | Inside | it's fairly short and gives a really good idea |
| 00:21.24 | zespri_work | 29 chapters is short????? |
| 00:21.40 | Inside | Well |
| 00:21.42 | zespri_work | I have different concept of shortness |
| 00:21.44 | Inside | You can ignore like the last chapter |
| 00:21.48 | Inside | Dude |
| 00:22.00 | Inside | I bought "C++ Programming Language" two years ago and I have never managed to finish reading that |
| 00:22.31 | TheZanke | i have orielys programming in c++ and oriely web databas applications using php and myspl |
| 00:22.36 | TheZanke | mysql |
| 00:22.37 | TheZanke | * |
| 00:22.40 | zespri_work | well the lua manual is difinitely shorter then this book especially if you skip c API chapters that are not needed for addon programming |
| 00:22.48 | TheZanke | read like 3/4s of both of them |
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| 00:24.29 | zespri_work | but good link anyway =) |
| 00:25.41 | TheZanke | but is wha ti was saying i wanted to do even possible? |
| 00:25.49 | Kaso | yah |
| 00:26.51 | TheZanke | so will every ui need a xml file no matter how simple? |
| 00:26.57 | Kaso | nope |
| 00:26.57 | TheZanke | addon* |
| 00:27.23 | Kaso | we have a function called CreateFrame() nowadays that allows us to do without xml for alot of things |
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| 00:29.03 | Garoun|Loupana | I haven't learned the CreateFrame method yet :) |
| 00:29.25 | Kaso | basically you need to register an event then send your message when that event is called. |
| 00:29.40 | Garoun|Loupana | so my force click on chatframe1 uses the pre 1.10 method |
| 00:30.35 | TheZanke | would 'SendChatMessage("/4 Level " .. UnitLevel("player") .. " Druid " .. UnitName("player") .. " looking for group!");' work right being that /4 is my lfg channel? |
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| 00:31.33 | zespri_work | as far as I remember you pass channel as a parameter, not inside the message itself |
| 00:31.50 | Kaso | 'SendChatMessage(msg,"CHANNEL",nil,4) |
| 00:32.12 | TheZanke | what should i be using? ultraedit or WoW UI Designer? |
| 00:32.23 | Kaso | notepad ! |
| 00:32.24 | Garoun|Loupana | you can learn a TON by reading WowWiki |
| 00:32.27 | zespri_work | I use notepad |
| 00:32.39 | Garoun|Loupana | especially if you now the function but not sure how to call it |
| 00:32.43 | Kaso | :> nah any text editor is good, SciTE wowi edidtion is pretty nice |
| 00:32.50 | Garoun|Loupana | I use Context with Astrogrep :) |
| 00:33.13 | TheZanke | i have SciTE also |
| 00:34.04 | Garoun|Loupana | if you didn't want to have to type the class Zanke you could add a variable to replace the class |
| 00:34.21 | Cairenn | TheZanke: if you are used to using SciTE then you might want to check out cladhaire's version, specific to WoW: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4989-SciTE-WOWInterface.html |
| 00:34.32 | Garoun|Loupana | local myClass,_ = UnictClass("player") |
| 00:35.26 | cladhaire | I'll find time soon to update it for 5.1 as well, but everything still applies right now. |
| 00:35.26 | Garoun|Loupana | and replace " Druid " with myClass |
| 00:35.44 | Garoun|Loupana | er UnitClass :P minus the firce c |
| 00:35.44 | Garoun|Loupana | misstype :) |
| 00:35.56 | Garoun|Loupana | I give up, can't type again tonight lol |
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| 00:38.22 | Garoun|Loupana | odd, I'm surprised there isn't a GetChannelIndex("name"); |
| 00:38.56 | Kaso | GetChannelName serves that pupose |
| 00:39.15 | Garoun|Loupana | ah ok, I missed the note reading the api doc :x |
| 00:39.38 | Kaso | :> it accepts either name or index as arg and returns index and name. |
| 00:40.32 | Kirkburn | Lol, I'm installing something and the progress bar reaches the end .... then resets and starts going again saying "The installation is taking longer than expected". Yeah, thanks. |
| 00:40.42 | Kirkburn | It did that 3 times :/ |
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| 00:45.31 | Thunder_Child | I *love* mana |
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| 00:48.20 | TheZanke | is there a way to make ultraedit do lua hightlighting? |
| 00:48.55 | GremWarsong | Yes |
| 00:49.02 | GremWarsong | I use UltraEdit, just do a search for a LUA wordlist on google |
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| 00:49.51 | TheZanke | i have the LUA.txt... how do i put it in ultraedit tho? |
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| 00:51.06 | TheZanke | bam, got it |
| 00:51.08 | TheZanke | thanks |
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| 01:01.16 | Cairenn | ~seen devla |
| 01:01.18 | purl | devla <n=Devla@69.49.158.29> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 207d 47m 2s ago, saying: 'hai!'. |
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| 01:01.51 | Thunder_Child | that only works for saying something though? |
| 01:02.29 | Cairenn | maybe |
| 01:02.46 | Cairenn | because I know he was in here just a couple days ago |
| 01:03.02 | Kirkburn | That's true |
| 01:05.09 | Industrial | so, tomorrow we get the mail right |
| 01:05.10 | Industrial | ? |
| 01:05.10 | Industrial | :D |
| 01:05.18 | Kirkburn | sneh, sneh, sneh |
| 01:06.14 | Kirkburn | (said Death of Rats) |
| 01:06.33 | Cairenn | that's my understanding, yes |
| 01:08.29 | Kirkburn | Here's hoping :) |
| 01:08.30 | Industrial | I will f5 all day. |
| 01:08.35 | Industrial | im also staying home |
| 01:08.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:08.42 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 01:08.51 | TheZanke` | kaso, pm |
| 01:09.12 | Kirkburn | They better not be sent out at the end of their working day :P |
| 01:09.17 | Industrial | yeh |
| 01:10.53 | Qshadowp[NS] | bleeeeeh |
| 01:11.23 | Qshadowp[NS] | its got a scheduler in it, and the alarm clock is like 2...really soft beeps you wouldn't hear it if you where more than 5ft away lol |
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| 01:11.40 | Qshadowp[NS] | and whats even more frustrateing, is that i found the wav files in question. but i can't replace them because there in use |
| 01:11.42 | kaiden | oooh tomorrow we might get keys?! |
| 01:11.44 | kaiden | yay |
| 01:11.44 | Qshadowp[NS] | bleeeeh! |
| 01:11.45 | kaiden | :) |
| 01:11.46 | kaiden | can't wait |
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| 01:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, I want my key now |
| 01:19.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Give me a reason to stop playing BF2142 |
| 01:19.07 | Tain | I want my MTV. |
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| 01:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | The one game that crashes about 2 minutes faster than properly closing it |
| 01:19.49 | Cairenn | oh |
| 01:19.51 | Cairenn | my |
| 01:19.55 | Cairenn | goodness |
| 01:20.00 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzO1mCAVyMw&NR |
| 01:20.01 | Tain | Deal or No Deal is the best show. They just love screwing with people. |
| 01:20.15 | kaiden | Do we have an exact release date for TBC yet? |
| 01:20.23 | Cairenn | nope |
| 01:20.32 | kaiden | darn i need to schedule my vacation at work :P |
| 01:23.37 | Tain | That video is full of truths, Cairenn |
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| 01:28.53 | SP|Sorren | yes! my laundry timer that keeps going after reloadui is finished :O |
| 01:28.59 | SP|Sorren | now to do the laundry. |
| 01:31.15 | Inside | asdf. |
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| 01:31.54 | Inside | 500 lines and uno program is still not done '_' |
| 01:32.49 | GremWarsong | You and your Uno |
| 01:37.53 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, hehe, great video isn't it :P |
| 01:38.04 | Cairenn | it's ... odd |
| 01:38.20 | Kirkburn | Well, yes, it would be for you :P |
| 01:38.48 | Kirkburn | Seriously, the whole positioning thing, completely true |
| 01:39.02 | Cairenn | yeah, well, no kidding |
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| 01:43.51 | Cairenn | okay guys, first confirmed key arrived, start checking your emails |
| 01:44.01 | Kirkburn | F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 |
| 01:44.04 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 01:44.32 | Kirkburn | Arg, I'll never get to bed now :/ |
| 01:44.50 | Cairenn | go to bed |
| 01:45.11 | Kirkburn | Nah, I will, I'll get up early if it doesn't come soon :) |
| 01:45.13 | Tain | But Heroes is coming on. |
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| 01:46.46 | cladhaire | ooh i have to go make sure heroes tapes. |
| 01:47.08 | Tuller | tapes? |
| 01:47.16 | Tuller | what is this video tape you speak of? :) |
| 01:47.44 | Kirkburn | Be this the 1800s? |
| 01:48.14 | Kirkburn | Ye Olde VCR Machinerationater |
| 01:55.53 | Tain | hahah music bought from MSN Music will not play on the new Microsoft Zune media player. |
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| 01:58.05 | Cairenn | ~timriker |
| 01:58.18 | purl | hmm... timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 01:58.18 | MentalPower | I was just about to do that |
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| 02:00.07 | Tuller | So, do we know if its a 'We're going to send all the beta keys at once' thing, or is it going to be something like x amount per week? |
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| 02:02.46 | Kirkburn | Tain, MSN Music is being shut down |
| 02:03.55 | Cairenn | Tuller: I was under the impression they'd be showing up tomorrow, so I'm really surprised to get a report of one showing up tonight |
| 02:04.19 | Kirkburn | And no-one else has mentioned anything yet ... |
| 02:04.19 | Tuller | my guess is someone slipped Blizzard a twenty :) |
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| 02:05.09 | Inside | >_> |
| 02:05.14 | Kirkburn | I'm so excited about reading Day of the Dragon, I keep hearing about the WC books, so glad I finally bought some |
| 02:06.45 | zespri_work | so have you already read it? started? |
| 02:06.53 | Kirkburn | Just starting |
| 02:07.16 | zespri_work | i hope that you won't be disappointed =) |
| 02:07.55 | zespri_work | I'm a bit cautious about this type of literature, it's almost like fan-fiction |
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| 02:08.24 | Kirkburn | I know what you mean, but it's all done with Metzen's direct involvement |
| 02:08.43 | Kirkburn | In fact, one of the novels I bought is by Chris :) |
| 02:08.50 | zespri_work | well, not exactly, but anyway the audience is never intened to be too wide, nothing comparable to a cult sci-fi authors. |
| 02:09.09 | Tain | Man, you should see the insanity here. You can't sell beer or wine in supermarkets or other stores, only liquor stores here in Massachuesetts. |
| 02:09.21 | zespri_work | ok then, report back when you are done =)_ |
| 02:09.28 | Kirkburn | That's crazee, Tain |
| 02:09.35 | Kirkburn | Shall do, zespri |
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| 02:09.55 | Kirkburn | Randomly, like my User page images? :P http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn |
| 02:10.07 | Tain | There's a vote coming up to be able to sell wine only in supermarkets. |
| 02:10.40 | Tain | They're running insane ads saying it'll cause kids to become drunks and the roads to be full of dead bodies |
| 02:11.07 | Kirkburn | You can't move for the dead bodies and drunk children here |
| 02:11.56 | Guillotine | how would you check if the player is horde or alliance? just UnitFactionGroup("player")? |
| 02:12.19 | Kirkburn | Check to see if they keep saying 'kek' |
| 02:12.27 | kaiden | Guillotine, UnitRace |
| 02:12.59 | Kirkburn | Tain, in Germany you can buy alcohol at 16 iirc. They don't seem to have a problem there :/ |
| 02:13.23 | Kirkburn | Culture is an odd beast |
| 02:15.15 | Tain | Its just this area. |
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| 02:40.20 | Cairenn | 2nd confirmed key: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=42775343&sid=1&pageNo=4 |
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| 02:41.18 | weab | one of my guildies confirmed getting her key also. |
| 02:43.23 | deci | anyone good with macros? i need some help |
| 02:49.09 | TheZanke` | how would i do unitlevel("player") > ? |
| 02:49.23 | TheZanke` | says couldnt compare number with string |
| 02:50.13 | Thunder_Child | is there a command to check if the client has BC or not? |
| 02:51.14 | Kirkburn | Does there need to be? |
| 02:51.50 | Thunder_Child | if you are cheking for things that are in BC only |
| 02:52.02 | Thunder_Child | weould make things easier i would think |
| 02:52.05 | Thunder_Child | would* |
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| 02:53.40 | Kirkburn | I'm not sure there will be anything UI-related that'll be BC-only, tbh |
| 02:54.06 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Another confirmed key |
| 02:54.41 | Cairenn | excellent |
| 02:54.53 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, I'm just thinking that they may not bother removing stuff like the Jewelcrafting UI from non-BC, but who knows :O |
| 02:55.04 | Kirkburn | As to your actual question, I haven't a clue =) |
| 02:55.14 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks |
| 02:57.08 | Kirkburn | This is very much lol: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6122448.stm |
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| 02:59.04 | Nom_ | Greetings. |
| 02:59.14 | Kirkburn | Greetations! |
| 02:59.16 | Kemayo | Salutations. |
| 02:59.23 | Cairenn | hi |
| 02:59.26 | Nom_ | Just curious if anyone has tried to make a mod which uses SOAP connections? :) |
| 02:59.30 | Kemayo | ... |
| 02:59.47 | Kirkburn | Aren't those quite slippery? *Badum-psshhhh* |
| 03:00.20 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, you do it as well.... |
| 03:00.30 | Kirkburn | Ach, damn, those were sleeping tablets |
| 03:00.32 | Nom_ | I'm considering making a mod which can be used to view and maintain DKP points in a raid... :) |
| 03:00.40 | Thunder_Child | she can use thoes as well |
| 03:00.46 | Nom_ | SOAP is the obvious choice for client-server data exchange... |
| 03:01.22 | Tuller | does anyone know what the texture name of the ? icon is, by chance? |
| 03:01.39 | Kirkburn | SOAP must be hard to get hold of though, I would guess ..... okay, okay, I'll stop now |
| 03:02.07 | Kirkburn | Tuller, http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_QuestionMark.png |
| 03:02.16 | Esamynn | ~lart Kirkburn |
| 03:02.29 | Tuller | thanks :) |
| 03:02.46 | Esamynn | silly purl, that move almost never works! :P |
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| 03:03.14 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 03:03.20 | Kemayo | Nom_: I'm skeptical. (But then, I don't like SOAP at the best of times. So.) |
| 03:03.36 | Nom_ | hmm...does it work i suppose is the only question I need answered :) |
| 03:03.49 | Nom_ | Like, it's not blocked by Blizzards' implementation |
| 03:03.54 | Kemayo | Well, I'm sure you could do it. |
| 03:04.27 | Nom_ | SOAP is fine as long as your server-side implementation is good :) |
| 03:04.29 | Kemayo | It would probably be more hassle than it's worth to implement, though. |
| 03:04.41 | Nom_ | Probably not :) |
| 03:04.47 | Nom_ | <--- Programmer by profession |
| 03:05.34 | zespri_work | guys, am I missing something, or blizzard went bonkers and has allowed communication with outside world from within an addon? |
| 03:06.32 | Kemayo | zespri_work: Not as far as I know. As I understand Nom_, he/she/it wants to have one person running a "server" addon, with others using "client" addons that request data and processing from the server. |
| 03:07.01 | Kemayo | Correct me if I'm wrong, of course. :) |
| 03:07.10 | zespri_work | oh, in that sense |
| 03:07.39 | zespri_work | you have to be... ehm... dedicated to implement soap in lua. |
| 03:07.56 | Kemayo | Nom_: If you want to write a SOAP library, AceComm would probably be a good reference point for interaddon communications. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceComm-2.0 |
| 03:09.56 | zespri_work | Cairenn, I wonder if they send keys one by one, manually |
| 03:10.03 | Cairenn | nope |
| 03:10.17 | Nom_ | Kemayo: I don't plan on writing a SOAP library..there's already some out there in LUA |
| 03:10.18 | zespri_work | then 2 confirmed keys is a strange number |
| 03:10.31 | Nom_ | http://www.keplerproject.org/luasoap/ <-- for example |
| 03:10.33 | Cairenn | they take the list of email address and plug it into their list of keys and mass mail the results |
| 03:10.40 | Nom_ | I'm writing a mod that will _use_ SOAP |
| 03:10.48 | Cairenn | zespri_work: 3 confirmed at this point, and mod authors aren't the only ones getting keys |
| 03:10.51 | Nom_ | Well, thinking about writing at least :) |
| 03:11.03 | Kemayo | Well, I think there's no technical barriers standing in the way of using it. |
| 03:11.15 | Cairenn | and how many people are asleep, or playing, or or or and not checking their emails right now? |
| 03:11.26 | Nom_ | That's all I really needed to know...i'll write some kind of test script tonight to make sure it works |
| 03:11.40 | Nom_ | Pity the PTR's aren't up, otherwise I could code through the downtime lol |
| 03:12.14 | zespri_work | Nom_, does it make sense to use it? lua soap library is good when you want to communicate with a server or a client which already has soap implementation. if you need both client and server (as in your case) you are better off using something that is simpler and writen specifically with addon communication in mind. |
| 03:12.23 | Kemayo | There are a number of WoW quirks that you'd need to account for. (You'd have to escape color codes, for instance.) |
| 03:12.35 | zespri_work | Cairenn, who else? |
| 03:12.41 | zespri_work | but mod authors? |
| 03:12.49 | zespri_work | or you mean in general? |
| 03:12.57 | Nom_ | heh |
| 03:13.14 | zespri_work | Cairenn, I'm checking my e-mail right now! =))) |
| 03:13.35 | Nom_ | AceComm is designed for ingame communication isn't it? |
| 03:13.40 | Kemayo | It is, yes. |
| 03:13.44 | zespri_work | yeap |
| 03:13.47 | Cairenn | other fan sites have been doing contests to hand out keys, they're doing the guild invites, etc, etc |
| 03:13.48 | Nom_ | I'm talking about client -> server |
| 03:13.52 | Nom_ | Where the server isn't the WoW server |
| 03:13.59 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 03:14.14 | Kemayo | Ah, I thought you'd have corrected me when I asked earlier if that was the case. In that case, I think it's not possible. |
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| 03:14.44 | Nom_ | Well, SOAP is designed for use over HTTP |
| 03:14.51 | Nom_ | So what were you thinking it was for :) |
| 03:14.56 | zespri_work | Cairenn, ah ok. so it's a big jar of key batches coming form differnt directions to blizzard |
| 03:14.59 | Kemayo | Interaddon communications. |
| 03:15.03 | Gryphen | not possible nom |
| 03:15.16 | Nom_ | So Blizz blocks outgoing connections then? |
| 03:15.18 | Cairenn | zespri_work: *nod* |
| 03:15.22 | zespri_work | Nom_, people, always have strange ideas. And no, not possible |
| 03:15.23 | Cairenn | Nom_: *nod* |
| 03:15.33 | MentalPower | Nom_: no sockets, no file IO |
| 03:15.42 | Nom_ | D'oh :( |
| 03:15.51 | Nom_ | That could have been so useful :~( |
| 03:15.55 | Nom_ | Probably why noone else has done it |
| 03:16.00 | zespri_work | Nom_, there is no API to comunicate any information outside of wow except when you closing down your client |
| 03:16.26 | Kemayo | Some addons do client-server stuff, of course. But they use external programs to parse the savedvariables that blizzard writes out when you close WoW or reload the UI. |
| 03:16.41 | Nom_ | Yeah, that's nasty |
| 03:16.45 | Nom_ | One client crash and you lose data |
| 03:16.50 | Nom_ | (Potentially) |
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| 03:19.46 | Nom_ | That sucks a little bit actually...now i'll need to think of a new idea :( |
| 03:19.58 | zespri_work | this is secure |
| 03:20.05 | Inside | D: |
| 03:20.06 | zespri_work | the whole point of it is security |
| 03:20.12 | Inside | 600 lines |
| 03:20.12 | Inside | >_< |
| 03:20.20 | zespri_work | wow lua as sandboxed as it's possible |
| 03:21.05 | Nom_ | Security dims the flame of creation :( |
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| 03:22.38 | zespri_work | Cairenn, do you think that everybody who has applied will get their keys eventually? |
| 03:22.54 | Cairenn | zespri_work: I don't think they will, I know they will |
| 03:23.20 | Esamynn | Nom_: very true, which is what happened with the 2.0 UI changes, blame the idiots who exploited it all |
| 03:23.21 | zespri_work | Sorry, I'm being anxious =) |
| 03:23.35 | Cairenn | yes, yes you are |
| 03:23.41 | Cairenn | it's okay, I'm excited too |
| 03:24.00 | zespri_work | I have to read the UI chnages thread |
| 03:24.13 | Kirkburn | See you next year zespri :P |
| 03:24.15 | Cairenn | well, and go ahead and get it all downloaded, if you haven't already |
| 03:24.32 | zespri_work | download what? |
| 03:24.39 | Thunder_Child | beta |
| 03:24.44 | Cairenn | the beta install |
| 03:24.44 | Kirkburn | The internet, silly |
| 03:24.49 | Nom_ | Not being able to create sockets actually douses a few ideas I had |
| 03:24.49 | Nom_ | :~( |
| 03:24.51 | zespri_work | good idea. where do I download? |
| 03:24.52 | Thunder_Child | silly indeed.... |
| 03:25.07 | Kirkburn | The internet, silly |
| 03:25.25 | Kirkburn | beta.worldofwarcraft.com ? |
| 03:25.27 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Kirkburn |
| 03:25.28 | zespri_work | you are repeatig youreself =) |
| 03:25.45 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* waste of a good piano |
| 03:25.51 | Kirkburn | Ookay, not that address |
| 03:26.37 | Kirkburn | (that address redirects me to the EU beta forums :/ ) |
| 03:27.07 | Kirkburn | Ha-ha! |
| 03:27.08 | Thunder_Child | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/interceptor.html?interceptedURL=http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/WoW-2.0.0.5991-enUS-Installer-downloader.exe |
| 03:27.08 | Kirkburn | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/ |
| 03:27.11 | zespri_work | Cairenn, where would you suggest to download from? |
| 03:27.26 | zespri_work | thank you |
| 03:27.37 | Nom_ | Anyone know what's used to make the HAM bars and group things on http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Irontygre/WoW%20Screenshots/WoWScrnShot_100506_221059.jpg |
| 03:27.57 | Nom_ | I can't work out which mod it is lol |
| 03:28.03 | deci | what is that thing attacking the middle of the screen |
| 03:28.14 | deci | that person needs backup |
| 03:28.15 | deci | medic! |
| 03:28.17 | deci | man down! |
| 03:28.18 | Kirkburn | ( zespri_work, confused me as the EU version of the original link I posted goes straight to https://beta.wow-europe.com/expansion/ ) |
| 03:28.52 | Thunder_Child | looks like duf/dart |
| 03:29.09 | Thunder_Child | i could be wrong though |
| 03:29.51 | Kirkburn | G'night all, hope we all get our beta keys before I get up :) |
| 03:29.53 | Nom_ | awww Access Denied for Beta :~( |
| 03:30.07 | Thunder_Child | Night Kirkburn |
| 03:30.22 | Nom_ | I want to play a belf pally :~( |
| 03:32.02 | zespri_work | 2GB, this is serious |
| 03:32.17 | zespri_work | I wonder if anyone knows the torrent link |
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| 03:33.14 | Nom_ | Anyone here in beta? |
| 03:33.23 | MentalPower | theres quite a few torrent extractor tools |
| 03:33.31 | Nom_ | Just reading the forums...did they realy nerf ignite? :/ |
| 03:34.19 | Nom_ | " |
| 03:34.43 | zespri_work | MentalPower, I know, I'm at work and the download at home and it's awkward to find out with remote connection and stuff |
| 03:34.43 | Nom_ | heh...this guys is complaining that warlocks "will now" out-do mages in raid damage |
| 03:35.02 | Nom_ | T2 warlocks are on the top of out damage meters every raid |
| 03:35.08 | Nom_ | With T3 mages barely keeping up |
| 03:37.18 | zespri_work | MentalPower, btw, technically speaking the downloader doesn't have to contain torrent url, just the tracker address. |
| 03:37.53 | zespri_work | the only reason it does indeed contain it is that blizzard put it there =) |
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| 03:38.31 | MentalPower | it contains the entire .torrent file |
| 03:38.38 | MentalPower | hash trees and all |
| 03:38.58 | Thunder_Child | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_downloader |
| 03:39.11 | zespri_work | oh I see |
| 03:39.29 | zespri_work | I used to contain link to torrent file some time ago |
| 03:40.38 | zespri_work | and Thunder_child thank you for the link |
| 03:41.06 | Thunder_Child | np |
| 03:42.34 | Nom_ | http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Irontygre/WoW%20Screenshots/WoWScrnShot_100506_221059.jpg <-- so none know what mod(s) are creating the health bars in the middle? :( |
| 03:43.02 | Thunder_Child | like i said, it's prolly custom made with dart |
| 03:46.14 | JoshBork1 | i agree with Thunder_Child |
| 03:46.34 | Nom_ | ah sorry |
| 03:46.38 | Nom_ | I missed that :) |
| 03:46.59 | Nom_ | http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l244/Irontygre/WoW%20Screenshots/AddonsList.jpg <--- that's the list of mods installed apparently |
| 03:47.14 | Nom_ | I don't see Dart installed, or do you mean Discord stuff? |
| 03:47.46 | JoshBork1 | DiscordArt |
| 03:47.57 | Nom_ | I guessed, thanks :) |
| 03:48.14 | JoshBork1 | with the others probably being DiscordUnitFrames |
| 03:48.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | warcry's giving out 2 keys a day for 50 days? is the beta gonna even last that long? :x |
| 03:49.05 | Vallerius | 1 new email... and it was spam. /cry |
| 03:49.06 | Thunder_Child | mid jan |
| 03:49.09 | Thunder_Child | ish |
| 03:55.43 | Guillotine | Mr_Rabies2: heh. the last people are going to be in beta for like a week. maybe |
| 03:56.20 | Thunder_Child | wont even matter if the ptr comes out mid dec |
| 03:56.52 | Guillotine | blue posted somewhere (though it was about 4 months ago) that there was no public beta planned |
| 03:57.44 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&postId=322123996&sid=1#423 |
| 03:57.54 | Inside | public beta means creating just as many servers as they have now |
| 03:58.04 | Thunder_Child | though 2.0 != BC |
| 03:58.53 | Guillotine | I think Thunder_Child is right. I would guess 2.0 won't have the new races/outlands |
| 04:00.43 | JoshBork1 | no, but it will have talents and spells |
| 04:00.52 | Guillotine | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32319741&postId=320878670&sid=1#21 |
| 04:00.55 | Guillotine | right |
| 04:01.08 | Guillotine | I'm just saying beta won't be fully outdated at that time |
| 04:01.46 | JoshBork1 | yea. i think it'll see less ui dev'ing on it though |
| 04:05.36 | Garoun|Loupana | actually the 2.0 patch won't have the spells |
| 04:05.50 | Garoun|Loupana | I don't think any new spells were added until at least 61 |
| 04:06.05 | Garoun|Loupana | and you can't go past 60 unless you have the expansion |
| 04:06.46 | Cairenn | well, and frankly, why would anyone *need* to ui dev on the PTR? not like you can't get a key :p |
| 04:06.48 | Guillotine | actually (currently at least) some of the AQ books are trainable at 60 |
| 04:06.54 | Guillotine | yup |
| 04:07.05 | Guillotine | it was a comment about warcry's contest |
| 04:07.09 | Guillotine | which isn't just for addon authors |
| 04:07.14 | Guillotine | and most people are dying to get one |
| 04:07.40 | Guillotine | speaking of which, how many HelloWorld addons have you gotten from people just trying to get into beta? :P |
| 04:08.02 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah but those are all spells that are already in the game Guill |
| 04:08.09 | Guillotine | right |
| 04:08.41 | Guillotine | only new spells will be talented spells |
| 04:08.43 | Guillotine | like mangle |
| 04:09.26 | Garoun|Loupana | and those will have to be in there anyway as well |
| 04:10.12 | JoshBork1 | Garoun|Loupana: incorrect. there are paladin spells that a new that you get sub 60 |
| 04:10.31 | JoshBork1 | s/ a / are / |
| 04:11.15 | Garoun|Loupana | :P |
| 04:11.22 | JoshBork1 | Righteous Defense and Spiritual Attunement :-D |
| 04:11.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Guillotine> Mr_Rabies2: heh. the last people are going to be in beta for like a week. maybe |
| 04:11.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually the thing's a bit odd |
| 04:11.47 | JoshBork1 | anyway. nn |
| 04:11.49 | Garoun|Loupana | open beta will happen but it won't be until 2-3 weeks before gold master is done |
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| 04:12.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | the main wow site says 20 a day, so does warcry, but doesn't mention how the other 18 a day will be given out |
| 04:12.31 | Inside | What's the point in a beta then? |
| 04:12.41 | Inside | After it's gone gold.. |
| 04:12.42 | Inside | >_> |
| 04:12.47 | Inside | It's not a beta then, it's a demo :p |
| 04:13.04 | Garoun|Loupana | it's an MMO |
| 04:13.15 | Garoun|Loupana | they do the open beta so they can patch it the day it releases if they need to |
| 04:13.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ehh i doubt they'll do one |
| 04:13.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | they said a few times they're not gonna, they're just gonna keep expanding closed |
| 04:14.07 | Thunder_Child | maybe they will have a party in this one as well |
| 04:14.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope so |
| 04:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | a full fledged legion attack on all the capitals :D |
| 04:14.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | including shattrath and stuff |
| 04:14.40 | Garoun|Loupana | well from the looks of it, 90% will be beta before they'd do an open anyway |
| 04:14.42 | Garoun|Loupana | so won't matter |
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| 04:18.51 | pattybot | is there a simple script command that can toggle the default wow ui right action bar to show/hide? |
| 04:19.13 | pattybot | or somehow set up a keybind to hide/show it? |
| 04:20.36 | Inside | Um |
| 04:20.38 | Inside | I think so |
| 04:20.39 | Inside | XD |
| 04:21.28 | pattybot | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.45 | Garoun|Loupana | just need to find the frame name for the action bars |
| 04:22.03 | Garoun|Loupana | do you mean the one that goes up the edge of the screen |
| 04:22.11 | pattybot | yes on the right side |
| 04:22.11 | Garoun|Loupana | or 2nd set of mainbars? |
| 04:22.13 | Garoun|Loupana | night clad |
| 04:22.24 | clad|sleep | night |
| 04:22.59 | Garoun|Loupana | MultiBarRight |
| 04:23.02 | Garoun|Loupana | is the frame name |
| 04:23.22 | pattybot | so /script MultiBarRight:Hide() should work? |
| 04:23.29 | Garoun|Loupana | yes |
| 04:23.33 | pattybot | ok lemme go try this |
| 04:23.36 | pattybot | brb |
| 04:23.41 | Garoun|Loupana | MultiBarLeft is if you have both Right Action bars up |
| 04:24.02 | Garoun|Loupana | <3 devtools ;) |
| 04:25.39 | pattybot | i was just about to ask that to for both right bars thans :) |
| 04:25.49 | Garoun|Loupana | np |
| 04:28.34 | pattybot | ok now say i want to set this /script MultiBarLeft:Hide() into a macro that will alternate hiding and then showing the bar, so click once it show, click again it hide etc.. |
| 04:30.38 | pattybot | or somehow make an if statement that is leftmousebutton show elseif rightmousebutton hide? something like that in a macro? |
| 04:31.54 | Garoun|Loupana | if(MultiBarFrameLeft:IsVisible()) then MultiBarLeft:Hide() else MultiBarLeft:Show() end; |
| 04:32.01 | Garoun|Loupana | I think that will do it |
| 04:32.12 | pattybot | oh your my jesus of the day |
| 04:34.06 | pattybot | would i put /script in front of that in the macro? |
| 04:34.07 | Garoun|Loupana | one sec, testing it |
| 04:34.12 | pattybot | kk |
| 04:34.21 | Garoun|Loupana | you are always going to hide both or neither correct? |
| 04:35.28 | pattybot | actually im gonna try to hide just the right actionbar 2 |
| 04:35.28 | pattybot | so it would be only MultiBarLeft |
| 04:37.29 | Garoun|Loupana | ok got it, let me post it somewhere for you |
| 04:37.52 | pattybot | thank you :) |
| 04:38.38 | Garoun|Loupana | wowi.pastey.net/2180 |
| 04:39.11 | Garoun|Loupana | just copy it directly to your macro, all on one line, no breaks |
| 04:39.20 | pattybot | ok doing it now |
| 04:39.34 | Garoun|Loupana | I actually tested it first this time, so it'll work |
| 04:40.16 | pattybot | thank you garoun|loupana that works so perfectly :) |
| 04:40.29 | Garoun|Loupana | not a problem :) |
| 04:41.16 | Garoun|Loupana | jsut remember, that probably won't work in combat once burning crusade and patch 2.0 come out |
| 04:41.31 | pattybot | np its not really meant for combat |
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| 04:53.21 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:53.41 | Garoun|Loupana | heya |
| 04:54.39 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 04:55.53 | Garoun|Loupana | is there a testing guild on each of the beta servers Cair? |
| 04:56.34 | Cairenn | no, just on the one |
| 04:56.42 | Cairenn | since that's the one that has been around since alpha |
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| 04:56.53 | Cairenn | when we started, there was no choice |
| 04:56.55 | Garoun|Loupana | that's the pvp server right? |
| 04:57.30 | Cairenn | no, pve |
| 04:57.32 | Cairenn | hellfire |
| 04:57.44 | Garoun|Loupana | cool, dunno why I thought the pvp one was first |
| 04:58.14 | Cairenn | if it was PvP server, we couldn't have a guild on each side :p |
| 04:58.39 | Cairenn | CastSpell and TargetUnit, Alliance and Horde respectively |
| 04:59.25 | Garoun|Loupana | ah ok, I'll have a war on horde and druid on ally whenever i get them copied over |
| 04:59.34 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:08.46 | Guillotine | gn all :) |
| 05:09.13 | Cairenn | night Guillotine |
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| 05:30.02 | Thunder_Child | soemone go kill www.peons4hire.com, they are pissing me off |
| 05:30.46 | Shadowed | spammed? |
| 05:31.19 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 05:31.34 | Thunder_Child | worse than usual |
| 05:31.34 | din` | i actually went there to kill them, but the next thing i knew i was walking back out to the parking lot with a bag full of gold and levelling services |
| 05:31.39 | din` | dont know what happened |
| 05:32.14 | Thunder_Child | i do, you were swayed to the....DARK SIDE |
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| 05:44.03 | Corrodias | so what does the expansion have in store for us for ground mounts? |
| 05:44.09 | Shadowed | nothing |
| 05:44.11 | Shadowed | you're screwed |
| 05:44.15 | Shadowed | Congrats! |
| 05:45.28 | Corrodias | how very unlikely :o |
| 05:45.38 | Shadowed | i'm serious :p |
| 05:45.41 | Corrodias | at least that i'm screwed in some way |
| 05:45.42 | Shadowed | you probably wont get much |
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| 05:46.48 | Corrodias | why are you using the pronoun, "you"? |
| 05:47.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | has anyone done any extensive tank testing with a pally yet? |
| 05:48.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to know if their heals are still super low aggro or not |
| 05:48.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | if so...that's a great way to buff up their threat, make their heals generate more aggro |
| 05:49.16 | Corrodias | what? they get low aggro AND plate? |
| 05:50.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | right at release when blizzard did their last minute changes to pallies |
| 05:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | they made their heals be really really really low aggro |
| 05:51.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | that remains to this day, unless they changed it in bc |
| 05:51.03 | Corrodias | i keep hanging onto a shred of a hope that druids are worth something but it's getting harder and harder |
| 05:51.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | the latest changes are very very promising |
| 05:52.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | a decently geared feral druid can do some really good damage |
| 05:52.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | force of nature needs a bit of work |
| 05:52.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | other than that things are pretty good |
| 05:53.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | be good if they combined blood frenzy and primal fury |
| 05:53.37 | Corrodias | soooo. 420 stacks of runecloth to get from Revered to Exalted |
| 05:53.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 05:53.49 | Corrodias | i.... think i'd better do some quests while they still give rep. |
| 05:54.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd wait, there's a lot to do in the bc that will probably net you some rep |
| 05:54.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | why do you want exalted, and who with? |
| 05:54.31 | Corrodias | i am levelling an alt. i'd like some mounts besides the race default available to it |
| 05:54.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | pvp mounts :] |
| 05:55.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could get an elekk or a hawkstrider for 10 measly wins of ab, av, and wsg |
| 05:55.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless something changes |
| 05:55.52 | Corrodias | a wha |
| 05:56.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | dranei or bloodelf mount depending on what side you're on |
| 05:56.08 | Corrodias | i need some place to read about this new stuff |
| 05:56.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | or the broken guy's mount |
| 05:56.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | the weird horse thing |
| 05:56.17 | Corrodias | broken guy? |
| 05:56.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | lemme see if i can find a screenshot |
| 05:59.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://xs208.xs.to/xs208/06423/newmount.jpg |
| 05:59.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | there ya go |
| 05:59.35 | Thunder_Child | it's a drill with feet |
| 05:59.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | It's obtained from a neutral faction like a Frostsaber, only they are not isolated to the Alliance or Horde. |
| 05:59.38 | Shadowed | WTF IS THAT |
| 06:01.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/beta?n=1044 |
| 06:03.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been trying not to get too interested in the beta and spoil all the surprises |
| 06:03.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | but |
| 06:03.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | the hype is just too much |
| 06:03.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 06:04.49 | Corrodias | so... are these pvp mounts at all hard to get? i mean, a few wins is just a couple of days' work |
| 06:05.04 | Shadowed | Rank 11 ones? |
| 06:05.10 | Shadowed | the current honor system, or the new one? |
| 06:05.21 | Corrodias | new |
| 06:05.31 | Shadowed | 30 wins in AV/AB/WSG |
| 06:05.33 | Shadowed | er 10 |
| 06:05.47 | Shadowed | (or 30 loses in AV/AB/WSG), just need 30 marks of each BG |
| 06:05.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | yep, 30 of each token |
| 06:05.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless they add eos |
| 06:06.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i doubt it |
| 06:06.05 | Corrodias | that would take a few days, rather than months of hard grinding as it does now.. |
| 06:06.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | since its 61-70 |
| 06:06.15 | Shadowed | uh |
| 06:06.18 | Shadowed | 11 hardly takes months of grinding :p |
| 06:06.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | and they only require 75 riding skill |
| 06:06.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | depends on the server Shadowed |
| 06:06.48 | Shadowed | Not really. IC is pretty hard to rank up in and I did it in about a month of grinding |
| 06:06.51 | Corrodias | maybe not hardcore grinding, not for 11 |
| 06:06.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | on mine, 200k honor a week is enough until 12 to keep ranking 1 or 2 a week |
| 06:07.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | but 200k a week is pretty much nonstop pvp because of the queue times |
| 06:07.28 | Shadowed | On mine, 800,000-1,000,000 is the normal for top 3 :p |
| 06:07.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | not sure on ours, 400k or so last i asked |
| 06:07.50 | Corrodias | but the point is that this is a very easy thing to accomplish in the new system |
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| 06:08.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:08.22 | Shadowed | Compared to the old system, getting rank 11 is cake |
| 06:08.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | but youll eventually need 150 riding skill |
| 06:08.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | to get 225 for flying mounts |
| 06:08.39 | Shadowed | it'll mean easy 100% speed mounts for twinks |
| 06:08.44 | Shadowed | <60 twinks that is |
| 06:08.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | unless you're a druid with no plans on getting an epic one for a while :3 |
| 06:09.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, i'd assume they'd give us 225 flying skill |
| 06:09.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm sure flight form won't be free |
| 06:09.14 | Shadowed | 225 is like 2,000g and 300 is 6,000g |
| 06:09.21 | Shadowed | flight form is free last i heard |
| 06:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | or well, "free" being normal spell cost, at least |
| 06:10.47 | Corrodias | i suspect settline for flight form would be like settling for travel form -- not that bad when you get it, but pretty slow 70 |
| 06:11.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, 6000g is gonna be a pain to get |
| 06:11.03 | Shadowed | not really |
| 06:11.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | even on the updated thing |
| 06:11.08 | Shadowed | apparently gold is cake to get in TBc |
| 06:11.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | especially if they don't give us 225 riding skill |
| 06:11.24 | Shadowed | they don't |
| 06:11.27 | Shadowed | 2,000g for 225 :p |
| 06:11.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd be happy with a pay form and 225, like locks and their epic mounts :P |
| 06:12.05 | Corrodias | we don't get riding skill for travel form :( |
| 06:12.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | and pallies |
| 06:12.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that's because it's slower than a mount :P |
| 06:12.26 | Corrodias | paladins need to have to spend money when they use their shields :P |
| 06:13.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got an rss feed of warcry's latest threads running :P |
| 06:13.46 | Garoun|Loupana | I beleive it's dispellable now... or actually that was iceblock |
| 06:14.03 | Shadowed | whats dispellable? |
| 06:14.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | mass dispel maybe |
| 06:14.11 | Garoun|Loupana | Ice Block, or so I heard |
| 06:14.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | for both |
| 06:14.26 | Shadowed | haha nice |
| 06:14.34 | Corrodias | i want to dispel paladin shields |
| 06:14.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | but mass dispel is like |
| 06:14.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | a billion mana |
| 06:14.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | they'll be using their shields less probably |
| 06:14.54 | Garoun|Loupana | paly's will be making sure they have a million buffs up |
| 06:15.00 | Garoun|Loupana | so Mages don't steal it |
| 06:15.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | since there's some offensive ability that causes forbearance |
| 06:15.09 | Corrodias | forbearance? |
| 06:15.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd hit blessing of sacrifice if i was a pally and was fighting a spellsteal spam mage |
| 06:15.23 | Garoun|Loupana | paly version of Weakened Soul |
| 06:15.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wonder what that does |
| 06:15.52 | Shadowed | mass dispell is like 600 mana |
| 06:15.56 | Corrodias | keeps you from being shielded |
| 06:15.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought it was like 1200 |
| 06:16.11 | Shadowed | 600 last i checked |
| 06:16.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | 36% of Base Mana |
| 06:16.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | so yeah, it differs |
| 06:16.39 | Corrodias | i'd give sexual favors that let me keep a paladin from shielding from a range for even 6 seconds |
| 06:16.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | glad they're working on dropping costs for base mana spells |
| 06:16.42 | Garoun|Loupana | at least it doesn't cost druids 1800 mana to shift forms now :P |
| 06:16.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | shapeshifting was gonna be like 1800 |
| 06:16.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:16.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe they'll drop it some more |
| 06:17.07 | Garoun|Loupana | still costs a ton, but I thins it's 35% now |
| 06:17.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | 44% :/ |
| 06:17.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know what my base mana is at 60 |
| 06:17.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i have about 2400 mana buffed in my cat gear |
| 06:18.10 | Shadowed | 2400? is that even possible |
| 06:18.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think i've got +7 int from motw |
| 06:18.54 | Shadowed | hough base was like 2700 mana |
| 06:19.00 | Garoun|Loupana | right now for me it osts 547 at 60, and 198 for utility forms |
| 06:19.01 | Corrodias | he said buffed |
| 06:19.22 | Garoun|Loupana | and right now I only have 2/3 in Nat Ss |
| 06:19.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | 648 unless you have nat ss |
| 06:19.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:19.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got 3 right now |
| 06:19.33 | Garoun|Loupana | it'll be 3/3 in BC |
| 06:19.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | thinking about taking some out for imp shred |
| 06:19.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'll wait for 2.0 |
| 06:19.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i can get shredding attacks |
| 06:20.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know if nature's grasp really is castable in forms now? |
| 06:20.33 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm bear specced |
| 06:20.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | if so i'll get it, if not, meh |
| 06:20.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm both specd |
| 06:20.39 | Garoun|Loupana | losing that 3/3 NS won't work for me |
| 06:20.50 | Garoun|Loupana | I shift too much, especially if running a flag |
| 06:21.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | pop your bwl trinket if you got it :] |
| 06:21.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | that thing is godly for flag running |
| 06:21.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | pop that and just spam the shapeshift key as fast as you can |
| 06:21.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | confuses the hell out of people |
| 06:22.00 | Garoun|Loupana | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=zZxhhsfMdihspVxIz that'll be my spec until I've had time to play around |
| 06:22.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have 2947 buffed |
| 06:22.15 | Corrodias | what is this BWL trinket? |
| 06:22.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2764 unbuffed |
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| 06:22.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | rune of metamorphisis |
| 06:22.27 | Garoun|Loupana | 3759 unbuffed mana :) |
| 06:22.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh, i don't want to give up damage for mana |
| 06:22.45 | Garoun|Loupana | 4k with |
| 06:22.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | my mana pool is fine |
| 06:23.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i have +14 int |
| 06:23.10 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm hybrid and rarely need to use cat so |
| 06:23.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's +12 from motw |
| 06:23.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | and +2 from... |
| 06:23.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | hotw? |
| 06:23.45 | Garoun|Loupana | 20% for hotw |
| 06:23.53 | Garoun|Loupana | of total int |
| 06:23.54 | Nom_ | 3700 mana don't last long :P |
| 06:24.02 | Nom_ | That's my 2 copper worth :) |
| 06:24.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2700 lasts me long enough to die in wsg most of the time |
| 06:24.10 | Garoun|Loupana | my 4k lasts plenty long hehe |
| 06:24.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | in bear gear i've got... |
| 06:24.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | 3500 |
| 06:24.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | buffed |
| 06:24.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly cause my tank helm atm is the cenarion helm |
| 06:24.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 06:24.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | stormrage |
| 06:25.20 | Garoun|Loupana | see, I have no purples other then Don Julio's in my gear :P |
| 06:25.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually that's my sole source of int in my bear gear |
| 06:25.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm doing all that with blues ) |
| 06:25.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i like to min/max |
| 06:25.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | it works pretty well |
| 06:26.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | if i'm running the flag i go into bear gear, otherwise im in cat gear/catform |
| 06:26.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | get targeted a lot less as a sneaky purple cat |
| 06:26.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | healer gear i've got 7904 mana self buffed |
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| 06:27.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | very rarely am i in that in pvp |
| 06:27.07 | Garoun|Loupana | no purples in my healing gear either :) and still manage |
| 06:27.11 | Garoun|Loupana | +382 healing |
| 06:27.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i only have 1800 armor and 3900 health in it |
| 06:27.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | which is more than my cat gear :P |
| 06:27.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | my cat gear is almost exclusively str/agi/ap/crit |
| 06:27.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i don't get targeted much |
| 06:28.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | usually in stealth if i'm alone |
| 06:28.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | leave stealth long enough to 2 shot a drinking mage, especially in av |
| 06:28.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's all i ever do in av |
| 06:28.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | is sneak up in the back of the line and drop stragglers/drinkers |
| 06:28.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | then run off and stealth unharmed |
| 06:29.06 | Garoun|Loupana | see, I'm the opposite, I spend most of ym time in AV going bear to pull all the guards out while the rest of the team takes positions :P |
| 06:29.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1046 ap and 28.9% crit |
| 06:29.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | every time i go bear i get rocked |
| 06:29.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | because a big grey bear just stands out so much |
| 06:29.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | though i tanked 8 horde at once for 30 seconds solo |
| 06:29.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | good times |
| 06:30.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | they were all melee so it was cake |
| 06:30.07 | Garoun|Loupana | I spent a year as a tank, so I'm pretty good at being a nuisance, which is all tanks really are |
| 06:30.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | killed a rogue in the process with a nice chain 800 maul crit combo |
| 06:30.16 | Corrodias | as for me, it was roots, faerie fire, and healing. some people think i can do alright, although my inability to kill anyone like that makes me feel unimpressive. |
| 06:30.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i never root in pvp except for the occasional nature's grasp and rooting flag carriers/chasers |
| 06:31.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | just too unreliable |
| 06:31.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i might drop NG if it's not castable in forms |
| 06:31.37 | Garoun|Loupana | the very fact that our own ability is the most common cause of it breaking is stupid :P |
| 06:31.42 | Corrodias | my favorite was rooting somebody who was trying to ride past the flag NPC's |
| 06:32.07 | Corrodias | the long casting time, unlike a mage's frost nova, is quite the pain, though |
| 06:32.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | 5 more points for a spell that i rarely use due to its limitations |
| 06:32.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the breaking on its own dots |
| 06:32.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope they make it like fear |
| 06:32.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | use the same break checks as fear does once again |
| 06:32.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | it used to, except the stupid 10 dps dot |
| 06:33.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | then they made fear never break except on huge nukes |
| 06:33.43 | Nom_ | Sneaky purple cat? |
| 06:33.46 | Nom_ | Damn Alliance! |
| 06:33.46 | Nom_ | :P |
| 06:34.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | cows look dumb in kilts |
| 06:34.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | and their catform is a wingless wyvern made out of triangles |
| 06:35.03 | Corrodias | being cute isn't our thing |
| 06:35.19 | Nom_ | http://standen.id.au/pics/cats/voices.jpg |
| 06:35.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | your bear form is :3 |
| 06:35.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | or }:3 |
| 06:35.44 | Corrodias | horns look so -right- on a bear. |
| 06:35.53 | Nom_ | meh |
| 06:35.57 | Nom_ | cat form is cute and cuddly |
| 06:36.06 | Nom_ | for both :P |
| 06:36.47 | Nom_ | although i rarely get to inspect alliance cat form druids for long...not long after i see them, they're getting a frostbolt neutering |
| 06:36.59 | Nom_ | >:) |
| 06:37.10 | Corrodias | fool, all night elves are female |
| 06:39.19 | Corrodias | which reminds me of a fun situation i had in AV. in one game i had to battle two other apparently restoration-specced or hybrid druids, at different times. in neither case did either of us die before someone else intervened, but i did wear one down to the point that she ran away. |
| 06:39.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe |
| 06:39.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love healbot druids in battlegrounds |
| 06:39.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | drop them in about 3 seconds now |
| 06:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | enough time for them to start moving cause they lost over half their health in one swing |
| 06:40.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | hopefully faster with pounce being improved come 2.0 |
| 06:40.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | healbot druids in pvp are free hks to me |
| 06:40.48 | Corrodias | i'm working on this alt because the druid is depressing me |
| 06:40.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | drop faster than any other class generally |
| 06:40.59 | Nom_ | When I was fire spec i used to like warming up a combusion and then popping a pryo on healbots :P |
| 06:40.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | mages generally frost nova and blink |
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| 06:41.06 | Corrodias | it's just so weak, or i don't know how to play it, although the way you describe it it's not just me |
| 06:41.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | or freaking chill me |
| 06:41.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | damn that chill effect |
| 06:41.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-druid/talents.html?000000000000000000000503202132322210500133105500000000000000000 |
| 06:41.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | is gonna be my new spec come 2.0 |
| 06:41.50 | Nom_ | I've got a dream...to be the first level 70 horde pally on my realm :P |
| 06:41.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | actually |
| 06:41.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | i may have to get omen |
| 06:42.09 | Corrodias | slow heals and only mild damaging ability... so bleh |
| 06:42.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | mild? |
| 06:42.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | you tell mild to my 3300 fb crit on a mage :P |
| 06:42.33 | Corrodias | without feral talents |
| 06:42.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | well yeah |
| 06:42.39 | Corrodias | i'm talking about my druid |
| 06:43.15 | Corrodias | actually, i can play the role of wannabe rogue, because i put 20 points into feral. it's the only way i could be sane while playing that character. |
| 06:43.24 | Thorarin | helloes 8) |
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| 06:43.54 | Nom_ | I see that everyone is getting a stam boost in TBC tho |
| 06:43.56 | Cairenn | hi |
| 06:44.04 | Crispix | ello all |
| 06:44.04 | Nom_ | So yeah, that 3300 crit isn't going to be as deadly as it is now :~( |
| 06:44.35 | Nom_ | 3300 is the old 1000 :P |
| 06:45.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'll also have more AP |
| 06:45.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | :P |
| 06:45.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i saw a 4700 or something FB crit in a vid |
| 06:45.29 | Corrodias | those seem unusually high numbers |
| 06:45.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i had berserking, but other than that my max is about 2800 or so |
| 06:46.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think my max ravage is like 2200 or so |
| 06:46.51 | Nom_ | Is 'Eye for an Eye' a current Pally talent? |
| 06:47.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 06:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | the when you get critted you hurt them, right? |
| 06:47.27 | Nom_ | Yeah, spell crits apparently |
| 06:47.29 | Nom_ | I've never noticed it |
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| 06:51.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZTpu3Y24SeU |
| 06:51.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh my |
| 06:52.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | imagine the thoughts in that pally's head |
| 06:54.18 | Corrodias | "omg wtf nerf druids" |
| 06:54.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would laugh my ass off if i got attacked by like 8 druids in travel form |
| 06:54.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd thornstank them to death |
| 06:55.27 | Nom_ | lol |
| 06:55.43 | Nom_ | those were alliance druids, i'm guessing? I've never seen that texture on a horde :P |
| 06:55.56 | Corrodias | they're in travel form |
| 06:56.11 | Nom_ | er..then what was hitting him? |
| 06:56.20 | Corrodias | you can attack in travel form |
| 06:56.27 | Corrodias | i'm surprised the rogue Sinister Strike sound is just a "whoosh" like when you miss with a druid's cat form |
| 06:56.35 | Corrodias | took a while to get over that |
| 06:56.38 | Nom_ | lol but it's just auto attack? |
| 06:56.46 | Corrodias | yes |
| 06:56.51 | Nom_ | heh |
| 06:57.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | seal form is too |
| 06:57.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | i miss root-drowning people |
| 06:57.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 06:57.27 | Nom_ | hahaha i've never tried to attack in anything other than cat/bear/caster on my druid |
| 06:57.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | tree form can't melee |
| 06:57.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | lollers |
| 06:57.40 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3HHFDRvLI |
| 06:58.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do similar dps to this guy, a bit lower |
| 06:58.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | sorry about the music, but i've been watching metalocalypse recently so it doesn't bother me so much |
| 07:00.14 | Nom_ | That's some impressive dps :P |
| 07:00.26 | Nom_ | 2000+ crits on pounce (i'm guessing?) |
| 07:00.35 | Inside | Pfft. |
| 07:00.43 | Inside | I could make a video of me critting with gnomish deathray and killing people. |
| 07:00.51 | Inside | Everyone has that moment of sheer luck |
| 07:01.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats ravage, nom |
| 07:01.05 | Corrodias | gnomish death ray. i wonder if every one of my characters should be an engineer. |
| 07:01.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | pounce is useless now until 2.0 |
| 07:01.27 | Inside | It only took me ~80 gold to powerlevel to 300 engineering. |
| 07:01.29 | Nom_ | That couldn't be pounce |
| 07:01.37 | Inside | Now it's USELESS |
| 07:01.38 | Inside | D: |
| 07:01.42 | Nom_ | Yeah...i havn'e got that far yet :P |
| 07:01.55 | Nom_ | My Druid is only 25 :~( |
| 07:02.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | Pounce, stunning the target for 2 sec and causing 150 damage over 18 sec |
| 07:02.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | orrrrr.... 1000-2000 damage depending on armor |
| 07:02.25 | Nom_ | Yep, I just looked that up |
| 07:02.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | 150 |
| 07:02.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | over 18 |
| 07:02.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | what is that. |
| 07:02.54 | Nom_ | Pounce |
| 07:03.04 | Corrodias | it's shit |
| 07:03.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know i'm saying what's the point on having such a terrible dot |
| 07:03.20 | Nom_ | Yeah, that's pretty nice damage from ravage then :P |
| 07:03.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | Pounce, stunning the target for 3 sec and causing 450 damage over 18 sec. Must be prowling and behind the target. Awards 1 combo point. |
| 07:03.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's in bc |
| 07:03.47 | Corrodias | keeping people from stealthing is the only reason |
| 07:03.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it scales with attack power |
| 07:03.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | eh |
| 07:03.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | feral faerie fire |
| 07:04.00 | Corrodias | indeed. |
| 07:04.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | or hell even a rake |
| 07:04.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | gonna see what it ticks for on a murloc out here in wetlands |
| 07:04.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | on 1.12 |
| 07:05.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | 28 every 2 |
| 07:05.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | or 27 |
| 07:05.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | lollers |
| 07:06.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | or multiple 900 hits with ravage |
| 07:07.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | on the same mob |
| 07:07.31 | Corrodias | tough choice there |
| 07:07.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | 10 less energy!1 |
| 07:08.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1826 crit |
| 07:08.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | weee |
| 07:10.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | 1020 maul crit |
| 07:10.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 07:10.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | been a while since i've played this guy cause i'm kinda at a brick wall, so the numbers are kinda surprising |
| 07:14.05 | Inside | c_c |
| 07:14.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | i know these mobs are noobish but i'm lazy |
| 07:16.59 | Corrodias | i'm rather annoyed that mobs' Roots work better than my own |
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| 07:20.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | like working indoors >:[ |
| 07:21.41 | Corrodias | and their minute-long poisons, and half-hour-long diseases |
| 07:22.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | screw silithid pox |
| 07:22.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.thottbot.com/?sp=8137 |
| 07:22.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | it scales with level |
| 07:23.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like 45% or something crazy with the ones in ungoro |
| 07:23.25 | Corrodias | even if my debuffs lasted that long, they'd still suck |
| 07:23.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i literally couldn't quest at all |
| 07:24.49 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 07:25.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | night cair |
| 07:25.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1RT8Iz8Og4 ...this left me speechless, someone randomly linked it on the drood forums :x |
| 07:27.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm pretty desensitized to the internet, but that just confused me |
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| 07:29.49 | Corrodias | i was entertained for a moment but then it got very repetitious |
| 07:30.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | someone was like HAY GUYS THIS IS WHERE THE BEAR DANCE IS FROM |
| 07:31.44 | Thunder_Child | i think that was edited |
| 07:31.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | well yeah |
| 07:32.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | it reminds me of the old aquaman adult swim bumps |
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| 07:43.51 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.52 | Inside | 700 lines |
| 07:43.54 | Inside | almost done :p |
| 07:44.52 | Thunder_Child | you my good sir, are a freak and a scholar |
| 07:44.56 | Inside | Why? |
| 07:45.12 | Thunder_Child | so much effort for uno |
| 07:45.16 | Inside | Dood |
| 07:45.20 | Inside | I coded UNO in MUD. |
| 07:45.23 | Inside | er... MUF |
| 07:45.33 | Inside | That's an RPN language.. love does not even begin to cover it. |
| 07:46.11 | Thunder_Child | that does not invalidate my opinion though |
| 07:46.57 | Inside | Almost done, I think |
| 07:47.00 | Inside | It's fugly, but it works |
| 07:51.04 | Inside | >_> |
| 07:51.08 | Inside | Anyone logged in rihgt now? |
| 07:51.16 | Inside | Need someone to play with :< |
| 07:51.20 | Inside | To iron out the bugs. |
| 07:53.16 | Corrodias | kinda wish i were playing a dwarf |
| 07:53.28 | Shadowed | why must it be so hard to find these firewall specs |
| 07:56.13 | Shadowed | So, anyone happen to have any experience with a SonicWall SOHO2? |
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| 08:39.00 | Corrodias | i detest a heavy vibrato voice. |
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| 08:44.49 | Corrodias | i'm watching a video of a rogue during a naxx boss fight and the guy isn't even behind her for half the battle so far |
| 08:44.59 | Corrodias | parries all over the place |
| 08:47.25 | Shadowed | thaddius? |
| 08:47.58 | Corrodias | grand widow faerlina |
| 08:48.23 | Corrodias | the rogue isn't behind the boss during much of the video |
| 08:48.50 | Shadowed | he' s not a very smart ( or a lazy rogue ) rogue then |
| 08:49.31 | Corrodias | arr, didn't think it was a good idea to let so many of his attacks get parried and not do anything about it |
| 08:51.28 | Corrodias | "Loatheb has around 5,330,000 HP" -- head asplode |
| 08:52.07 | Shadowed | sounds about right |
| 08:55.40 | Corrodias | good god, how do these people do it? |
| 08:55.50 | Corrodias | (reading the description of the fight) |
| 08:56.14 | chuckg | Onyxia buff, Rend Buff, ZG buff, flask and every other consummable available. |
| 08:56.16 | Shadowed | Pretty much you load up on every world buff and damage buff available, as you get better gear you can slowly reduce the buffs. |
| 08:56.30 | chuckg | Two warlocks, one with 1/2 improved HP stones, one with 2/2 HP stones for all 40 members of the raid. |
| 08:56.41 | chuckg | 3 shadow protection potions per person, minus warlocks. |
| 08:57.05 | chuckg | It's a treat when the faire is up, makes the fight a cake walk. |
| 08:57.32 | Corrodias | why's that? |
| 08:58.01 | Shadowed | Eh, the DM buffs don't make the fight a cake walk |
| 08:58.06 | Shadowed | they certainly make it easier, but hardly a cake walk |
| 09:01.14 | Industrial | Thats why ill never like pve |
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| 09:09.58 | Nom_ | PvE is good fun :) |
| 09:10.14 | Industrial | nom, nomuken? |
| 09:10.19 | Nom_ | No |
| 09:10.21 | Industrial | k :p |
| 09:10.22 | Corrodias | i'd like to think it can be |
| 09:10.36 | Corrodias | although not being able to kill hakkar is a bit depressing |
| 09:10.37 | Shadowed | depends what you want really. If you want to hang out with 40 other people and have fun for a few hours then, or enjoy seeing/learning/beating new content then you'll like it |
| 09:10.53 | Shadowed | some don't like wiping to a new boss for 4 hours a day for 4 weeks though :p |
| 09:10.59 | Industrial | I really prefer PVP because of the uncertainty. You have to rely on yourself - and if you win by yourself then thats cool :P |
| 09:11.09 | Nom_ | get a better guild if you can't kill Hakkar ^_^ |
| 09:11.11 | Shadowed | eh, PVP gets pretty repeative after a while |
| 09:11.12 | Corrodias | i think either my build or my technique is not good enough, actually. i need to read up on druid healing. |
| 09:11.16 | Nom_ | We do all of ZG without wiping now :) |
| 09:11.25 | Nom_ | Unless someone does something stupid of course |
| 09:11.40 | Shadowed | It's fun, but no BG is just about killing so you cna usually end up predicting the entire fight fairly fast |
| 09:11.45 | Nom_ | All healers = get massive +healing gear and rank down your heals |
| 09:11.46 | Industrial | Shadowed: im not 60+packed with epics yet |
| 09:11.52 | Nom_ | That's pretty much all you do |
| 09:11.58 | Shadowed | I'm not either :p |
| 09:12.03 | Corrodias | at the moment, i only have time for raiding 2 days a week and i'm pretty noob, so this guild is right for me |
| 09:12.05 | Industrial | :S |
| 09:12.14 | Nom_ | fair enough :) |
| 09:12.14 | Shadowed | well, my priest isn't. up until 2 weeks ago i was only wearing rank 10 pvp stuff, now i'm using the rank 12 stuff |
| 09:12.20 | Nom_ | We're raiding like 5 days a week now |
| 09:12.25 | Shadowed | only? :p |
| 09:12.49 | Corrodias | as opposed to the 7 nights i am awake every week |
| 09:12.52 | Nom_ | AQ20 on Monday, ZG on Wednesday, AQ20 on Thursday (if it's reset), MC on Saturday, ZG on Sunday |
| 09:12.59 | Shadowed | nice |
| 09:13.08 | Corrodias | you one-day AQ20 and ZG, eh? |
| 09:13.14 | Nom_ | Yea |
| 09:13.22 | Nom_ | 4 - 5 hours |
| 09:13.35 | Nom_ | AQ20 we skip Buru and the hunter most of the time |
| 09:13.40 | Nom_ | Just hit Moam and Ossirian |
| 09:13.43 | Corrodias | the guild only spends 3.5-4 hours on it, and we'd be lucky to get down the 5 priests in one day |
| 09:14.03 | Nom_ | Yeah, you wipe too much then, or spend too much time stuffing around :) |
| 09:14.08 | Shadowed | can one day every instance except naxx within 4-5 hours really. could do naxx in 4-5 hours I suppose, but it'd be pushing it |
| 09:14.16 | Nom_ | We start ZG at about 8PM and finish by 12:30am |
| 09:14.34 | Nom_ | MC the record is 3hrs 24mins |
| 09:14.37 | Corrodias | probably mostly wasting time. there's a lot of sheeping for the trash pulls when i think we can usually just AoE the shit out of them. |
| 09:14.42 | Nom_ | That's every boss downed |
| 09:14.52 | Nom_ | sorry, 3hrs 16mins |
| 09:14.54 | Shadowed | it's pretty hard to AE some of the trash really |
| 09:15.12 | Shadowed | since you'll either have mages drinking every pull, or you'll only get them to 50/60 |
| 09:15.15 | Shadowed | er 50/60% |
| 09:15.26 | Nom_ | yeah, but the pull should be starting while your mages are drinking |
| 09:15.41 | Nom_ | So by the time they stand up the tanks have agro solid |
| 09:15.48 | Nom_ | and they just nuke |
| 09:15.50 | Corrodias | if we moved at the best pace we've had and didn't wipe on the panther or tiger bosses (we're still tweaking the whole panther thing because she has a tendency to reappear inside the group and kill people) |
| 09:16.00 | Corrodias | then we could do the 5 priests in a day |
| 09:16.52 | Nom_ | It's mostly about tactics |
| 09:17.12 | Nom_ | The Panther boss we just have whoever is marked kiting them around while everyone else DPS |
| 09:17.28 | Nom_ | Then when she dissapears we FN the panthers and annihalate them with AoE |
| 09:17.35 | Corrodias | FN? |
| 09:17.50 | Shadowed | frost nvoa |
| 09:17.53 | Nom_ | Frost Nova |
| 09:17.54 | Shadowed | s/nvoa/nova |
| 09:18.03 | Nom_ | We have a nova rotation so they pretty much don't move |
| 09:18.28 | Corrodias | impressive. i must consider that (although, as a peon, i don't really decide what anybody does) |
| 09:19.06 | Corrodias | currently we use a warlock in the middle using hellfire constantly to deal with panthers while the tanks hold arlokk back and the others hit her. problem is that sometimes, when she reappears, she's inside the rest of the raid and she 2-shots the healers |
| 09:19.07 | SP|Sorren | anyone here have experience with candybars? |
| 09:19.43 | Corrodias | it's just "ba-boom" and people are on the floor |
| 09:20.33 | Nom_ | yeah well basically everyone should be keeping the AoE alive, and you shouldn't have more than a few panthers left when she repops |
| 09:20.37 | Nom_ | Then you just resume kiting |
| 09:20.45 | Nom_ | We usually get her before she vanishes the second time |
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| 09:21.37 | Corrodias | grabbing her before she kills anyone after she reappears is tough if she's already attacking them. we had more success the last time she was being tanked farther away from the group. she didn't spawn in the middle of them during that fight. we haven't gotten to fight here again since then so i don't know if it was a fluke. |
| 09:22.29 | Nom_ | the healers should really just know how to get the heck out of dodge |
| 09:22.30 | Nom_ | :) |
| 09:22.56 | Nom_ | if they don't have enough hitpoints to kite her until the tank picks her up, then they probably don't have any business being there :/ |
| 09:23.31 | Corrodias | when she reappears right next to the healers, they can't escape in time |
| 09:23.37 | Corrodias | (they are being positioned next to the gong) |
| 09:23.48 | Nom_ | All in one spot? |
| 09:23.58 | Nom_ | That'll be your problem :) |
| 09:24.06 | Nom_ | Never put all your eggs in one basket :P |
| 09:24.34 | Corrodias | okay, so you have one person kiting the panthers around to keep them occupied? |
| 09:24.40 | Nom_ | yep |
| 09:24.47 | Nom_ | keep earthgrab totems down |
| 09:24.52 | Nom_ | they should hardly get hit |
| 09:25.06 | Corrodias | panthers continue to come from the sides, until there are, what, 30 in the room |
| 09:25.22 | Nom_ | or more :) |
| 09:25.38 | Nom_ | I dunno...I can't count that many ticks from Flamestrike :) |
| 09:26.03 | Corrodias | i want to learn more about this kiting technique. how is he going to avoid the panthers still coming out of the cages as he goes around? or how does he do this? |
| 09:26.03 | Nom_ | Hellfire is a very quick way to die too...we always use ranged AoE |
| 09:26.16 | Nom_ | The healers should keep them up |
| 09:26.21 | Nom_ | With earthgrab you can outrun them |
| 09:26.38 | Nom_ | Just run laps around the room keeping them in a nice pack ready for AoE :) |
| 09:27.25 | Nom_ | Make sure you've got bossmods so it informs the person they've been marked |
| 09:28.02 | Nom_ | I shall endeavour to make a movie of our next successful attempt |
| 09:28.03 | Nom_ | :) |
| 09:28.10 | Corrodias | hmmm |
| 09:28.27 | Corrodias | do you mind if i post this conversation on the guild's forum? |
| 09:28.35 | Nom_ | go for it :) |
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| 09:29.22 | Corrodias | thanks |
| 09:30.30 | Corrodias | about the tiger -- stage 1 seems to go pretty smoothly, and stage 2 isn't bad, but a lot of us get damaged by his AoE attack during stage 2. we're huddled up in a corner, presumably so he doesn't knock us way the heck back, although i've never asked just why. do you have any tips for that? |
| 09:31.01 | Nom_ | Yeah you'll always get damaged |
| 09:31.11 | Corrodias | i don't know all what is involved in tanking him, but i think they (tanks) hold him by the steps and we're (everyone else) right next to the wall in front of it |
| 09:31.26 | Nom_ | He hits you back even at max range i believe |
| 09:31.32 | Nom_ | I've tried to get out of range, believe me :) |
| 09:31.39 | Corrodias | that would be unpleasant |
| 09:32.07 | Nom_ | Basically, it just comes down to the rest of the raid keeping themselves up with bandages/pots to ease the loado n the healers |
| 09:32.14 | Nom_ | and dps him down |
| 09:32.27 | Nom_ | Hakkar is the best fight in there lol |
| 09:32.35 | Corrodias | we usually don't have too much trouble with him, unless he goes nuts during the pull (by resisting a taunt or something) and starts running around smacking people |
| 09:32.56 | Corrodias | hakkar isn't going so well, so far. 39% health at 1:30 left to enrage & wipe |
| 09:33.07 | Nom_ | You're using the Sons right? |
| 09:33.42 | Corrodias | yes, i think there are issues with people not always getting poisoned, which just needs more discipline to accomplish. |
| 09:34.28 | Nom_ | Yep, you get a big chunk of DPS on him if everyone is poisoned |
| 09:34.47 | Corrodias | i'm not sure how we can squeeze out more damage. we're also working on spreading out so corrupted blood doesn't drain everybody. finally, if a Son breaks out of CC he can do some significant damage before he's back under control. |
| 09:34.51 | Nom_ | That fight is mroe about just raw dps than anything else...you need to do a lot of it |
| 09:34.58 | Corrodias | unfortunately it's not as big as it used to be, as you're probably aware |
| 09:35.28 | Nom_ | Yeah, you're mages just need to control that bascially |
| 09:35.34 | Nom_ | Druid on backup with sleep doesn't hurt |
| 09:36.01 | Nom_ | You really gotta control your tanks when they get MC'ed |
| 09:36.10 | Nom_ | That's the hardest aspect fo the fight |
| 09:36.17 | Corrodias | that too~ |
| 09:36.52 | Corrodias | we didn't have enough mages on the last try so it was just us two druids trying to keep the sons under control, and hibernate has a nasty habit of breaking unexpectedly |
| 09:38.01 | Nom_ | in the end it's just down to dps tho |
| 09:38.13 | Nom_ | You've got 10 minutes to kill him, which means you need as much dps as possible... |
| 09:38.16 | Corrodias | "not enough mages" pretty well doomed it, then |
| 09:38.25 | Nom_ | You'd be surprised |
| 09:38.27 | Corrodias | it was kind of a low dps day |
| 09:38.30 | Nom_ | Warlocks do quite a bit |
| 09:38.50 | Nom_ | You want 2 or 3 warlocks minimum |
| 09:38.53 | Corrodias | oh, certainly. i think it was 2 warlocks, 2 mages, 3 hunters, and a rogue or two |
| 09:39.03 | Corrodias | something like that |
| 09:39.08 | Nom_ | Full set of DPS dots, make sure CoE and CoS are up |
| 09:39.34 | Nom_ | curse of doom too if you've got 3 locks...i beleive he doesn't clear it |
| 09:39.49 | Industrial | Frame:SetScript('OnDragStart', nothing()) |
| 09:39.51 | Industrial | whats wrong with that? |
| 09:40.01 | Industrial | function nothing() end, btw |
| 09:40.19 | Industrial | idInterface\idInterface.lua:61: Usage: <unnamed>:SetScript("type" |
| 09:40.21 | Industrial | :S |
| 09:40.24 | Corrodias | needs more semicolons. :d |
| 09:40.30 | Industrial | no thanks |
| 09:41.55 | Nom_ | If you're not getting enough DPS out, then you need to start getting Ossirian down and get all your DPS classes some good gear |
| 09:42.14 | Nom_ | All your mages should have the top rank spells, and the ossirian gear |
| 09:42.19 | Nom_ | eye of moam as well if you can get it |
| 09:42.30 | Nom_ | same with locks |
| 09:42.53 | Corrodias | i take it those are AQ20 items |
| 09:43.02 | Nom_ | If you STILL don't get enough DPS, then get your mages to go fire spec |
| 09:43.08 | Corrodias | they work on that near the end of the week, when i can't attend. how sad is that? |
| 09:43.11 | Nom_ | If you're not getting him down then, then you're doing something really wrong :P |
| 09:43.28 | Nom_ | Yeah, they are |
| 09:43.53 | Nom_ | If your casters have less than +200 spell damage, you're going to really struggle |
| 09:44.03 | Nom_ | more is better |
| 09:44.18 | Corrodias | hm. that sounds like a lot. my +healing is only +300 at this point and +healing comes in greater quantities |
| 09:44.24 | Nom_ | Not really |
| 09:44.34 | Nom_ | Without even getting any +spell damage from MC i've got +266 |
| 09:44.48 | Corrodias | aha |
| 09:44.56 | Nom_ | Robe of the Achmage, 2 pieces of the ZG set |
| 09:45.05 | Nom_ | umm the caster dagger from CC |
| 09:45.13 | Nom_ | Jindo's Bag of Whammies |
| 09:45.23 | Corrodias | jin'do, haven't started on him, yet |
| 09:45.25 | Nom_ | Rest is just random spell damage blues |
| 09:45.44 | Nom_ | You should...he's got some nice caster gear |
| 09:45.54 | Nom_ | A really good headpiece, bag of whammies, and a staff |
| 09:46.04 | Nom_ | and you can get to his area really easy from the entrance of ZG |
| 09:46.11 | Nom_ | just head left through the water |
| 09:46.34 | Nom_ | You need a mage with a lot of mana for him tho |
| 09:46.37 | Corrodias | of course, if he's tougher than Hakkar as i keep hearing, we're not really ready for him. |
| 09:46.46 | Corrodias | we have a priest with a lot of mana. i don't suppose that's close enough? ;) |
| 09:46.57 | Nom_ | Nope, you need CoC+Shatter build mage |
| 09:47.21 | Nom_ | You have to control the damn skeleton pit, which requires frost nova + coc + ae to kill them |
| 09:47.38 | Corrodias | i'm not familiar with some of these mage terms, but the mages will be |
| 09:47.52 | Nom_ | coc = cone of cold, ae = arcane explosion |
| 09:48.01 | Corrodias | and shatter? |
| 09:48.13 | Nom_ | Shatter is a build which boosts your critical chance against frozen targets |
| 09:48.30 | Nom_ | So basically, anyone trapped in Frost Nova has a 50% higher chance of being hit for critical damage |
| 09:49.39 | Corrodias | mm, specific builds for specific things. thanks for the advice. |
| 09:50.01 | Nom_ | Well that's my MC build, so I just stick with it for most everything at the moment |
| 09:52.40 | Nom_ | kk well i gotta get going |
| 09:52.41 | Nom_ | it's home time |
| 09:52.51 | Nom_ | get a few levels on my druid before server down hopefully :P |
| 09:53.01 | Corrodias | see ya |
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| 11:06.54 | Laric | anyone gotten any of the wowi author keys yet? |
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| 11:16.11 | din` | not yet, think i was in the first batch |
| 11:31.48 | Corrodias | excuse me. |
| 11:32.05 | Corrodias | is "Do Gnomes have a vibrate setting? I'm just curious." really one of the female dr..aenei.. new-alliance-race jokes? |
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| 11:45.06 | thr | Hmm.. how do i find the swing time for my main hand weapon? |
| 11:45.37 | Corrodias | can't you just look at the weapon? |
| 11:45.43 | thr | .... |
| 11:45.50 | thr | i need it in my lua code ofc. |
| 11:46.02 | Corrodias | i don't know what "ofc" means, but never mind, then |
| 11:46.09 | thr | ofcourse. |
| 11:47.06 | Wob | one of the silliest acronyms around |
| 11:47.20 | thr | You know when I first wrote the question i thought to myself "maybe I should say that I need it in my lua code and don't need it personally - but nah, none will be so stupid to say "just look at the tooltip" "... god I was wrong. |
| 11:47.36 | Wob | Never underestimate =) |
| 11:48.07 | thr | Anyways, anyone know how to get the swing time of the weapon in my maind in the addon code? :) |
| 11:49.03 | thr | oh |
| 11:49.07 | thr | UnitAttackSpeed() |
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| 11:56.17 | Kaso | see, i sorta wish Cair never said the keys should be coming today, now ill be refresing my email every 1min all day |
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| 12:02.08 | Maldivia | the new slash commands options for /cast etc looks nice |
| 12:05.23 | thr | Kaso: Haha ^^ |
| 12:12.45 | Corrodias | i wonder if there's an existing list of buffs like the zandalar one, the rend one, the felwood flowers, the winterspring turn-in for buffing items, the barrens one with blood gems, and others like them. |
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| 12:22.05 | Corrodias | wowwiki has a list of "world buffs", a small subset. ah, well, i'll keep working at the list tomorrow. [away] |
| 12:28.38 | Wob | What time is it over there atm? (ie 'today') |
| 12:29.14 | Kaso | moi? |
| 12:29.14 | Wob | as good as any =) |
| 12:29.16 | Kaso | 12:30 |
| 12:29.25 | Mery | 13:30 |
| 12:29.34 | Wob | ta |
| 12:29.43 | Wob | hopefully it'll be in my mail when I wake up =P |
| 12:30.31 | Kaso | well im worryed now, Joshborke said they were sent out with maintainace, which is Tue for US, but wed for EU, so im not sure |
| 12:30.42 | Wob | It's odd |
| 12:30.46 | Wob | My friend got hers already |
| 12:30.55 | Wob | about... 12 hours ago |
| 12:31.05 | Wob | but whether it's from wowi or a random draw, I don't know |
| 12:31.25 | JoshBork1 | o.O |
| 12:31.32 | JoshBork1 | i was just spreading what i heard :-P |
| 12:31.43 | Wob | =( |
| 12:31.47 | Wob | rumour spreader =( |
| 12:32.20 | Kaso | and i'll hold you responsable if i dont get it today! |
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| 12:33.44 | Nom_ | Are there any tools which can help you work out what's causing wow to pause for a split second regularly? |
| 12:34.33 | Wob | You can get some that check memory usage |
| 12:34.37 | Nom_ | I know it's happening (mainly) when changing targets |
| 12:34.40 | Nom_ | I've got memory usage |
| 12:34.40 | Wob | teksupport for one |
| 12:34.50 | Nom_ | 60MB atm |
| 12:35.04 | Wob | well, more -what- frames are using up how much memory |
| 12:35.09 | Wob | or events being called etc |
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| 12:36.52 | JoshBork1 | Nom_: first determine when you are being GC'd with something like FuBar_PerformanceFu |
| 12:37.10 | thr | eh |
| 12:37.13 | JoshBork1 | Nom_: then use something tekSupport to determine which mod is eating the most resources |
| 12:37.22 | thr | is there no built in function in lua to round int numbers? o.O |
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| 12:37.38 | JoshBork1 | thr: no |
| 12:38.03 | Nom_ | It's not happening during GC |
| 12:38.05 | JoshBork1 | function round(int) return math.floor(int + 0.5) end |
| 12:38.27 | JoshBork1 | Nom_: then you probably have some targetting function that is poorly coded |
| 12:38.27 | Nom_ | It's almost constantly...like every time i change targets |
| 12:39.03 | Nom_ | X-Perl Unit Frames is the only thing i've updated recently :( |
| 12:44.03 | Nom_ | ah well, server downtime |
| 12:44.13 | Nom_ | might wipe my ui mods and just install the ones i want (again) |
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| 13:03.35 | Tsurai | lo guys, anyone got a few minutes to try and help me out with problems im having with CT_raidassist? |
| 13:04.39 | Mery | Hmm I'm soloing deadmines on the beta server and the door to get into the goblin shredder room is a "Heavy Door - locked" and I can't even open it with a Large Seaforium Charge (reg engi 200 so its far greater than the stuff you could have at 20) is there some new trick? or just a bug (intentional block) on the testserver? |
| 13:05.09 | phyber | go and get the gunpowder and use that cannon? |
| 13:05.18 | Kaso | that door should open when the boss dies |
| 13:05.33 | Kaso | and Tsurai, depends if it involoves me doing work |
| 13:05.34 | phyber | or am I jumping ahead there? :o |
| 13:05.50 | Maldivia | phyber: yeah, that's the door just before the ship |
| 13:06.01 | Tsurai | depends how you define work Kaso :) |
| 13:06.11 | Mery | gunpowder is to get into the hall with the ship |
| 13:06.18 | Kaso | shoot, and well see |
| 13:08.12 | Mery | and there is no boss in front of that door |
| 13:08.23 | Kaso | have you killed an ogre? |
| 13:08.29 | Mery | that door did open |
| 13:08.41 | Kaso | oh, am i mixed up |
| 13:08.42 | Mery | I'm at the following door |
| 13:08.55 | Kaso | the one to get out of the shredder room? |
| 13:08.57 | Mery | (kinda only different sides of the same connecting tunnel |
| 13:09.06 | Mery | get in the shredder room |
| 13:09.30 | Mery | it's like ogre -> door -> tunnel -> door -> shredder room -> door |
| 13:09.36 | Kaso | oh |
| 13:09.58 | Kaso | that shouldnt be locked then |
| 13:10.05 | Mery | and I think it used to be a "just click it" door |
| 13:10.20 | Kaso | youve kill the rest of the bosses upto that point |
| 13:11.02 | Mery | ya (its only the one, but I aoe'ed all of the instance anyway) |
| 13:11.47 | Mery | ima reset and see if it happens again and after that write a bug report |
| 13:12.12 | Kaso | wtf, theres nowhere in Gagetzan to buy arrow ^_- |
| 13:12.34 | teomyr | Kaso: try steamwheedle |
| 13:14.06 | Kaso | thanks |
| 13:14.42 | Tsurai | Kaso for some reason youre not hearing what im sending you privately :) |
| 13:14.53 | Kaso | cos you're not authed on freenode |
| 13:14.56 | Tsurai | think you could check out this thread http://vnboards.ign.com/wow_ui_customization/b22852/99874588/p1/?0 |
| 13:16.07 | Tsurai | its driving me metal tbh :) |
| 13:16.10 | Kaso | you're on latest verision yes? |
| 13:16.28 | Tsurai | and mental, yea 1.541 |
| 13:16.31 | Tsurai | same as rest of guild |
| 13:16.59 | Cide | hmm? |
| 13:17.08 | Kaso | ah, just the person you need |
| 13:17.55 | Kaso | i'd guess your Saved variables have accidnetly gotten a bad value for CT_RA_Squelch saved, but im sure cide can give you an exact anwser |
| 13:18.24 | Cide | I would guess it's because of the change in how the game saves unset SV's |
| 13:18.52 | Tsurai | so how would I go about fixing that? :) |
| 13:19.19 | teomyr | *game master talk on* Have you tried deleting your Interface, WDB and WTF folders? *game master talk off* |
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| 13:19.47 | Cide | Tsurai: /script CT_RA_Squelch = 0; ConsoleExec("reloadui"); |
| 13:19.59 | Tsurai | aye all of that teomyr :) |
| 13:22.36 | Tsurai | so just type that in game? dont need to alter the lua or anything? |
| 13:23.09 | Kaso | correct |
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| 13:23.28 | Tsurai | gimme a moment! *runs off* |
| 13:24.44 | Tsurai | ah top notch :) think thats got it |
| 13:25.58 | Cide | I would hope so :) |
| 13:26.33 | Tsurai | no more looking at AQ through an error window at last, many thanks guys |
| 13:33.10 | Kaso | the standard error box is pretty stupi |
| 13:34.22 | Mery | well probably made under the assumption: "there are no errors!" |
| 13:34.26 | Tsurai | lol |
| 13:34.44 | Tsurai | I had resorted to trying to move that window and scale it down |
| 13:34.55 | Tsurai | almost given up on sorting raid assist :p |
| 13:35.22 | phyber | you want BugSack for a nice error window :) |
| 13:35.30 | teomyr | the error window is annoying, yes. but annoying errors tend to get fixed first ;) |
| 13:35.59 | Tsurai | if people know what theyre doing, unlike me :) |
| 13:36.07 | Kaso | if there are errors in your version of an addon that noone else you know is getting, deletings that addon's WTF file is ususally a good start that will fix alot of things (abite reset to starndard) |
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| 13:38.27 | Maldivia | That's the problem with saved variables... I often forget to test my addons, with cleared saved variables, because I often dont want to loose my own settings |
| 13:47.31 | Kaso | aarrg! i hate playing an non-undead charater |
| 13:47.41 | Kaso | makes swimming just a pain |
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| 13:48.27 | Maldivia | naah, no problem swimming... only diving that changes :) |
| 13:48.43 | pb_eeE | Hi all ;) |
| 13:49.16 | Maldivia | Kaso, you normally play, what class? |
| 13:49.30 | Kaso | usually priest |
| 13:49.33 | Maldivia | Ok |
| 13:49.53 | Kaso | ive very lazy with alts |
| 13:50.09 | Kaso | ive got like 135 days on my main and my highest alt is 45 |
| 13:50.15 | Maldivia | ok... was just watching a fire mage video :) |
| 13:50.38 | Maldivia | mostly duels though |
| 13:52.32 | Maldivia | mage vs warriors is a bit evil now, with Second Wind and Spell Reflection |
| 13:57.16 | phyber | Kaso: play a warlock, and then it isn't so bad. |
| 13:57.46 | Kaso | atm im sorta leveling my 45 hunter, he's easy to play while alt tabbed reading forums |
| 13:57.58 | Kaso | "Pet attack, Aimed, alt tab" |
| 13:58.08 | phyber | hehe |
| 13:58.34 | pb_eeE | Kaso: nerf, my main is a Priest and farming is not really the same ;p |
| 13:59.06 | Kaso | only thing i ever kill on my priest is wolves for steaks nowadays |
| 13:59.39 | pb_eeE | Kaso: Ho. I usually kill the Main Tank |
| 13:59.44 | Kaso | haha |
| 13:59.44 | pb_eeE | ^^ |
| 14:00.00 | Kaso | well, spamming PoH on neferian *is* fun |
| 14:00.12 | pb_eeE | On nef? |
| 14:00.21 | Kaso | Class call? |
| 14:00.28 | teomyr | omg |
| 14:00.29 | pb_eeE | Huh? |
| 14:00.33 | pb_eeE | ROFL |
| 14:00.34 | teomyr | you're evil :D |
| 14:00.57 | Kaso | i only did it once when i got the call just as he died! |
| 14:01.02 | pb_eeE | Never thought about it :P |
| 14:01.17 | Kaso | it was quite a while ago, but i guess it'd still work the same |
| 14:01.32 | Kaso | now LV mod blocks me heals for me, which is good, (and bad) |
| 14:02.24 | Maldivia | well, it doesn't block in 2.0 :) |
| 14:02.39 | Kaso | true, true, but then i doubt ill be doing neferian in 2.0 |
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| 14:04.24 | Maldivia | Hmm, does Nef wear a Ony cloak? |
| 14:04.27 | Kaso | one time we got a priest call just as phase 3 happened, which was bad enough, but then i started spamming holy nova to kill some of the zerg, and was very releaved when i saw my chat log spammed with the LV block message. |
| 14:04.38 | Maldivia | Warriors with Spell Reflection on Nef, could be fun otherwise :) |
| 14:04.47 | teomyr | hehe |
| 14:04.54 | Kaso | doesnt spell reflection effects only reflect non-aoe |
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| 14:05.00 | Kaso | like the trinkets now |
| 14:05.10 | Maldivia | hmm... baah, no fun :) |
| 14:05.20 | Kaso | it'd own the caster twin however |
| 14:06.04 | Kaso | if you did AQ40 at level 70 you'd be stupid not to use a warrior tank on caster twin |
| 14:06.45 | Maldivia | Barron Geddon is the Bomb... ups :) |
| 14:07.05 | Maldivia | but ouch... Vael with BA... |
| 14:07.12 | Maldivia | that got to hurt, but atleast he dies fast :) |
| 14:07.14 | teomyr | haha |
| 14:07.22 | Kaso | well do you remeber when the green dragons first came out |
| 14:07.45 | Maldivia | you mean the spell reflect on the shadow spell? |
| 14:07.48 | Kaso | yah |
| 14:07.50 | teomyr | something about the engineering trinket, right? |
| 14:08.48 | Kaso | momento mori used shadow reflectors to reflect Emeriss's 100% hp DOT back |
| 14:09.07 | Kaso | = dead dragon |
| 14:09.13 | pb_eeE | oO |
| 14:13.31 | Maldivia | I wonder why t hey fixed that :) |
| 14:14.13 | Kaso | also along a similar trend, not so long ago with Hurururuhan and Sheen on zanda pots |
| 14:16.00 | Maldivia | ohh, never thought of that combo |
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| 14:16.58 | Industrial | NED KEY LAL |
| 14:17.08 | Industrial | WEN KEY WILL MAIL? |
| 14:17.55 | Maldivia | Industrial: don't worry, it's closer to you getting the key today, than it was yesterday |
| 14:18.18 | Industrial | Maldivia: my mouth is starting to foam |
| 14:18.46 | Industrial | no but really really, yeah |
| 14:18.46 | eternally777 | Industrial: I feel your pain. |
| 14:18.48 | Industrial | :| |
| 14:19.14 | Industrial | bbl making some sandwiches |
| 14:19.40 | Industrial | egg ledace tomatoes cheese ham :P~~~~ |
| 14:21.42 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:21.54 | Kirkburn | Well at least the above answetrs my first question |
| 14:21.58 | Kirkburn | *answers |
| 14:22.28 | Industrial | http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/Jvderve/gezond20broodje.jpg |
| 14:22.29 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 14:23.37 | eternally777 | Anyone good at Photoshop? I need a texture :\ |
| 14:24.15 | Industrial | spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baconandspam, spam, spam and eggs |
| 14:25.04 | Laric | out of curiosity.. what does vendetta gives that bigwigs doesnt have? |
| 14:26.33 | Kirkburn | Industrial, you have, uh, gone to bed since last night, yes? |
| 14:27.10 | Industrial | hm? no |
| 14:27.20 | Industrial | why |
| 14:27.31 | Kirkburn | Totally no reason whatsoever :) |
| 14:27.59 | Industrial | oki :p |
| 14:28.37 | teomyr | his lack of a beta key is showing :D |
| 14:29.48 | Kirkburn | So shall mine probably :P |
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| 14:30.30 | Beladona | 14 files waiting on wowi, someone went nutzoid last night |
| 14:33.42 | Kaso | What do you attually do when you check the uploads ? |
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| 14:35.59 | Beladona | check the contents, make sure there is nothing malicious |
| 14:36.08 | Beladona | make sure the author is the actual author |
| 14:36.39 | Beladona | sometimes people repost other people's addons. Especially like now when we have a contest for beta keys that requires you to have submitted an addon |
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| 14:37.12 | Beladona | oh and, make sure the addon is "approved" in terms of what blizz wants to be allowed or not |
| 14:38.34 | Industrial | You know what I think is so dumb about curse? |
| 14:38.54 | Industrial | Addon X Continued Redux Emerald |
| 14:39.27 | deci | cooldown count(continued)! |
| 14:39.28 | deci | lol |
| 14:39.42 | Industrial | yah i mean just release a new version |
| 14:39.56 | Industrial | and it will have been continued - all by itself, dun dun DUN |
| 14:41.07 | deci | amazing concept Industrial! |
| 14:41.20 | Kirkburn | He's a genius! |
| 14:41.28 | deci | but clearly, you're on another level of thought process |
| 14:44.31 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7613624750448909587 |
| 14:44.33 | Industrial | hahah, fail! |
| 14:49.43 | Kirkburn | Argh, some people! http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/06/blizzard-launches-warcraft-encyclopedia/ |
| 14:50.06 | Kirkburn | Notice how the writer manages to reference the WoWWiki yet somehow manage to link *not* the wowwiki |
| 14:50.29 | Kirkburn | Which I then pointed out in a comment which seems ot have been deleted |
| 14:50.41 | Kirkburn | I love ignorance! :D |
| 14:50.57 | Kaso | haha wtf is that he linked |
| 14:51.03 | Kaso | ive never seen that before |
| 14:51.09 | teomyr | haha |
| 14:52.26 | Kirkburn | Makes me wonder why bother helping people :/ |
| 14:54.43 | Kirkburn | "Learn how to read, goof" ... yes, your literary skills are unrivalled by truth :P |
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| 15:00.21 | teomyr | there's wowwiki, worldofwarcraft.wikia.com and a wow-section on wikipedia, and this blog author manages to link to the smallest of the three? :D |
| 15:01.28 | Kirkburn | Makes you wonder :P |
| 15:02.21 | Kaso | ive been donning my tin-foil hat trying to find a link between Weblogs, Inc. and Wikia Inc, other that they use the same host i cant find anything :< |
| 15:02.22 | zenzelezz | so? Perhaps he just likes that one better |
| 15:02.42 | zenzelezz | I know I only link stuff I know, whether it's the best or not |
| 15:02.49 | krka | WoW Wiki _can_ mean the worldofwarcraft wiki too |
| 15:03.32 | Kirkburn | Might I point out that one only has 60 articles, of which 3 pages have been updated in the last couple of weeks |
| 15:03.57 | Kirkburn | No, I do not believe he meant to link that wiki, it would make no sense. |
| 15:04.26 | krka | ah, now i see what you mean |
| 15:04.28 | Kirkburn | This isn't about getting on over on that site, but I was trying to get the article corrected for others :) |
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| 15:10.07 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7796402682444303623&q=stewie |
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| 15:10.29 | malreth | woohoo! we finally killed huhu last night! |
| 15:11.05 | Kirkburn | Industrial, I got seasons 1-5 yesterday :D |
| 15:11.14 | Kirkburn | malreth, big grats! |
| 15:11.30 | malreth | we then got wtfpwnt by the anubisath defenders after her |
| 15:11.30 | Kirkburn | Now you've got the Twins to deal with, just like my housemate :P |
| 15:11.41 | Kirkburn | Yeah, so did they =) |
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| 15:12.57 | malreth | we killed the first one with a bit of difficulty... only meteor and warriors... the second and third ones ate our minced plague-ridden bodies repeatedly |
| 15:13.09 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 15:13.31 | malreth | we kept getting that combo no matter how many times we pulled |
| 15:13.52 | pb_eeE | malreth: And you are not done yet. The Twins are much more difficult ;p |
| 15:14.29 | Grine | you do know that the abilities don't change anymore eight? |
| 15:14.31 | Grine | right* |
| 15:14.32 | malreth | yeah... but we're still gearing up... it's only a matter of time. they merely delay then inevitable. |
| 15:14.35 | Maldivia | I like that the trash af huhu is more difficult that all the previous bosses, well more or less :) |
| 15:14.45 | pb_eeE | Someone told me that the three first "guild-killers" boss were: Vaelstrasz, Ragnaros & the Twins |
| 15:14.51 | Kirkburn | Grine? |
| 15:14.52 | malreth | Grine: really? i'll have to tell people that |
| 15:15.05 | Maldivia | raggy isn't a guild killer |
| 15:15.12 | teomyr | guild killer? |
| 15:15.13 | malreth | razorgore is |
| 15:15.25 | malreth | gah, we struggled with him for months |
| 15:15.27 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6798107930936336510&q=stewie |
| 15:15.34 | Industrial | thats why europeans cant speak proper english |
| 15:15.47 | Grine | raxor is a bitch, so is vael, twins, ouro, C'Thun and Patch :P |
| 15:15.47 | Industrial | lieksrsly |
| 15:15.58 | malreth | then suddenly, we just blazed through him, vael, and got all the way up to chromie in a few weeks and had nef down the next |
| 15:16.00 | pb_eeE | Yeah, I was surprised to with Ragnaros, I directly thought about Razorgore (maybe this "someone" just made a mistake p;) |
| 15:16.03 | pb_eeE | ;p* |
| 15:16.28 | Kirkburn | Industrial, shush, italian is a beautiful language :) |
| 15:16.31 | teomyr | malreth: sounds familiar to my guild :D |
| 15:16.39 | pb_eeE | teomyr: "guild-killers", yes. A lot of guilds just disbanded because they couldn't kill those boss |
| 15:16.53 | teomyr | aaah |
| 15:16.55 | Industrial | Kirkburn: but taping it over an englsh series instead of using subtitles is BAD :P |
| 15:17.05 | Kirkburn | Tru dat |
| 15:17.17 | Industrial | in germany, there are no english spoken things on tv |
| 15:17.21 | Industrial | :s |
| 15:17.44 | Industrial | we dont even do that with cartoons :P |
| 15:17.55 | Kirkburn | Cartoons I can cope with, but dubbing live action stuff annoys the hell out fo me |
| 15:18.09 | Grine | aye kirk |
| 15:18.20 | Grine | sweden ftw, we don't dub anything for ppl above 5 years of age XD |
| 15:18.31 | Maldivia | The current guild I'm in spend 2 nights on Raz, 4 on Vael, 1 on Broodlord, 3 on Firemaw, 1 on Ebonroc, 1 on Flamegor, 1 on Chromaggus, and 3 on Nef |
| 15:19.00 | Grine | think my guild spent like 4 months trying Raz XD |
| 15:19.29 | Grine | on and off, after doing some new MC bosses we were like "lets try razor again!" |
| 15:19.47 | Maldivia | we didn't start on Raz until after Raggy |
| 15:22.32 | Industrial | mailmailmailmailmailmailmailkeykeykeykeykeymailkeymailkeymailgetgetgetgetwant... want... |
| 15:23.42 | pb_eeE | lol |
| 15:24.17 | Kaso | woah, using transparent PNGs in [[Image:XXX|thumb|left]] doesnt work well |
| 15:24.40 | malreth | Kaso... did you get a solution to your regexp problem from yesterday? |
| 15:24.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Razorgore isn't a guild killer, Vael is :P |
| 15:25.09 | malreth | i have a frontier pattern match thing going on in my head that might work... if you haven't already got a solution |
| 15:25.47 | Kaso | not entirely, iirc, lemme just check my current code, i think its still got a couple situations it doesnt work totally, i dont recall of the top of my head |
| 15:25.51 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: hehe, compared Special:Statistics on the two wikis? |
| 15:26.28 | malreth | ok... lemme test this out then |
| 15:28.20 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, \o/ |
| 15:29.20 | Kaso | Kirkburn: how do you go about {speedydelete}'ing an image |
| 15:30.12 | Kirkburn | go to the image page, go to edit, and stick {{speedydelete}} on there :) |
| 15:30.26 | Kaso | oh, didny know you could edit image pages |
| 15:30.31 | Kirkburn | Indeedy |
| 15:30.56 | Kirkburn | it's where people are supposed to put the source link :/ |
| 15:31.31 | Kaso | ok, malreth |
| 15:31.58 | JoshBorke | :-( no key yet :-( |
| 15:32.05 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 15:32.14 | zenzelezz | the day is still young |
| 15:32.17 | teomyr | Kirkburn: hardly anyone does. hope there won't be any lawsuits or stuff like that :/ |
| 15:32.48 | Kirkburn | Nah, it's just sometimes useful :) |
| 15:33.57 | Kaso | malreth: http://pastey.net/2199 thats my code, the line highlighed is the problem, basically, i want it to Gsub if the itemname (tab.item) isnt already surrounded with [] |
| 15:34.13 | Kaso | at the moment its just replacing the whole string with the itemname |
| 15:34.27 | malreth | i'm using this as my test: acid = "Benediction Benediction [Benediction] [Benediction Benediction] Benediction" |
| 15:34.52 | malreth | and seeing if i can pick out the benediction at the beginning, middle and end without any of the ones with brackets |
| 15:35.38 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: WoWWiki: 18319 pages... the other: 60 |
| 15:35.44 | malreth | pattern = "%f[%S]Benediction%f[%s]" picks out the one in the middle... but not the ones at the beginning or end |
| 15:35.45 | JoshBorke | malreth: what if you grab them all then replace anything between [] with ''? |
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| 15:36.40 | Industrial | malreth: regex ftw, patterns ftl :( |
| 15:37.00 | teomyr | maybe create a separate pattern for the first and the last and anchor them using "^" and "$"? ugly, but should work :D |
| 15:37.13 | malreth | that is ugly... i'm looking for elegant |
| 15:37.16 | malreth | i'm OCD that way |
| 15:37.23 | Kaso | I think someone saved a WoWWiki page at the exact same time as someone else, and mine vanished into the ether |
| 15:37.44 | JoshBorke | so you're looking for words separated by spaces but not betwenn brackets? |
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| 15:38.19 | malreth | JoshBorke: i believe that to be the case |
| 15:38.23 | Kaso | well no, BenedictionBendiction would in an ideal world match also |
| 15:38.35 | malreth | ooh... just make it harder on me! |
| 15:39.48 | Kaso | if you look at the code, the situation is that its takeing what you "say" and finding the stripped down itemname in the speechbubble then replacing with a non-stripped down one |
| 15:40.00 | Maldivia | Kaso: you can't do it with only one lua regex |
| 15:40.08 | Kaso | aww :< |
| 15:40.35 | Mike | :/ |
| 15:41.05 | Maldivia | Kaso: the problem is, the same char can't be part of 2 different matches |
| 15:42.21 | Kaso | hm? explain wouldyou |
| 15:43.50 | malreth | ok... |
| 15:43.51 | malreth | pattern = "%f[%a%[]Benediction%f[^%a%]]" |
| 15:43.57 | Maldivia | example: " hello world " - and you want to find words surrounded by spaces... the matches could be: " hello " and "world " or " hello" and " world ", but the center space can't be part of both |
| 15:44.03 | malreth | for my acid test it works |
| 15:44.26 | malreth | it catches all instances of "Benediction" that neither have brackets before nor after |
| 15:44.35 | malreth | but it does not catch "BenedictionBenediction" |
| 15:44.49 | Kaso | i understand |
| 15:44.55 | Maldivia | malreth, what about the [Benediction Benediction] part? |
| 15:45.06 | Maldivia | or they should be ignored? |
| 15:45.06 | malreth | it skips those |
| 15:46.04 | Kaso | ok, well, can you think of any other way to solve this issue: |
| 15:46.07 | teomyr | what is %f? in that pattern? |
| 15:46.11 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/2201 |
| 15:46.13 | Maldivia | a much simpler approacy would probably be to strip app [] first, like nobrackets = string.gsub(msg, "%[.-%]", "") and then parse the nobrackets string |
| 15:46.49 | malreth | teomyr: that is the frontier pattern. it tells the pattern matcher to look for the transition between not-in-set-to-in-set for the next set |
| 15:47.31 | Kaso | at the moment i have this: |
| 15:47.34 | teomyr | aah! why isn't that in the reference manual? :S |
| 15:47.34 | Kaso | SetText(string.gsub(var,ItemName,"\124cff"..Color.."["..ItemName.."]".."\124r")) |
| 15:47.55 | Kaso | and the problem is if itemname is in twice, it gets double brackets around it |
| 15:48.14 | malreth | teomyr: it's undocumented |
| 15:48.22 | Maldivia | where does itemName come from ? |
| 15:48.54 | Kaso | it comes from a chat_msg_say, and im SetTexting the Speech bubbles which have the same text, but with itemlinks stripped out |
| 15:50.00 | Kaso | var in this case is the text from the speech bubbles |
| 15:50.15 | Maldivia | Kaso, well, if it's a valid item link (which is must be, to have been transfered with the message system), then you should be able to assume that it's not doubled? |
| 15:50.52 | Kaso | hm? the problem is my code is somehow doubleing it when im settexting |
| 15:51.12 | Maldivia | or you mean if someone says something like: WST [Runecloth]x120 - 1.2g pr [Runecloth] stack ? |
| 15:51.35 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/2202 <-- code |
| 15:52.04 | Kaso | yes, if you say the same itemlink twice in a message all the brackets double up |
| 15:54.18 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 15:54.45 | malreth | Kaso: is my pattern not sufficient? should I go back to sleep now? |
| 15:55.03 | Kaso | umm,sec lemme tets |
| 15:55.36 | Kaso | "%f[%a%[]"..item.."%f[^%a%]]" yes? |
| 15:55.43 | malreth | sure |
| 15:55.59 | Maldivia | Kaso: iterate over it twice? First replace the items one by one, with a unique identifier, and limit it to one replacement |
| 15:56.11 | Maldivia | Kaso: and then replace those unique identifiers by the real item name afterwards? |
| 15:56.40 | malreth | woo... just tested it with items that have spaces in the name.. it still works |
| 15:57.18 | malreth | http://wowi.pastey.net/2204 |
| 15:57.25 | thr | If anyone care to comment: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5720-1-lance.html :) |
| 15:57.33 | Kaso | mm, works great except when you link items back-to-back |
| 15:57.40 | malreth | yeah |
| 15:58.19 | malreth | like i said, BenedictionBenediction is hard |
| 15:58.23 | Kaso | yah |
| 15:58.41 | malreth | i mean, how would you ever segment that out |
| 15:58.55 | Maldivia | by doing it over multiple iterations |
| 15:58.56 | malreth | without possibly breaking other words that have middlecaps |
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| 15:59.16 | malreth | if only Maldivia were here to give us the answer |
| 15:59.20 | malreth | oh well |
| 15:59.20 | Maldivia | :) |
| 15:59.23 | thr | Anyone know any nice websites where they have free photos+ |
| 15:59.24 | Kaso | haha :> |
| 15:59.33 | Kaso | GIS! thr |
| 15:59.42 | Kaso | lemme look at doing that then maldivia |
| 15:59.46 | thr | basicly I need a photo or a drawn image of a hamster that I can use however I want |
| 16:00.00 | thr | Kaso: GIS! ? o.O |
| 16:00.07 | Kaso | Goolge image search |
| 16:00.19 | malreth | uh... never say "hamster that i can use however i want" in a sentence ever again |
| 16:00.32 | malreth | and not all images on GIS are public domain |
| 16:00.35 | TS|Skrom_ | *thr is now known as RichardGere |
| 16:00.43 | thr | Kaso: Ok, but... those are probably not free of use ? |
| 16:00.50 | Maldivia | thr: flickr - there are a lot of free images there :) |
| 16:00.50 | Kaso | true, |
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| 16:00.51 | thr | I wanna use it in my addon, need a hamster-texture |
| 16:01.02 | malreth | dare i ask... why? |
| 16:01.05 | thr | Nope |
| 16:01.12 | krka | whack-a-hamster? |
| 16:01.13 | thr | Well obviously you dare to ask |
| 16:01.15 | thr | but i wont answer |
| 16:01.17 | thr | ;P |
| 16:01.46 | TS|Skrom_ | he's preparing a mage mod for the new Polymorph: Hamster spell |
| 16:02.04 | thr | exactly!(not) |
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| 16:03.22 | Maldivia | thr: http://flickr.com/search/?q=hamster&l=cc -- all those images there, should be on under the CC license |
| 16:03.29 | thr | which means I can do what? |
| 16:03.48 | thr | ah the creative commons |
| 16:03.54 | Maldivia | yep... |
| 16:03.55 | Maldivia | You are free: |
| 16:03.55 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.55 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.55 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.16 | thr | ok, nice |
| 16:04.31 | Maldivia | might be some further restrictions on some of the images |
| 16:05.56 | malreth | Draenei children!!! http://yarf.furry.com/~tigris/BCbeta/Lindele/ScreenShot_110506_210331.jpeg |
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| 16:06.18 | Maldivia | malreth: hehe, nice |
| 16:06.32 | malreth | she has two ugly human pets |
| 16:07.45 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 16:07.55 | Kirkburn | The draenei children are so cute |
| 16:09.37 | thr | omg how lucky am i |
| 16:09.44 | thr | my ex. gf had a photo of her little brothers hamster ;D |
| 16:10.07 | malreth | Good morning, Cairenn-dono. |
| 16:10.14 | Cairenn | morning |
| 16:10.19 | Kaso | that sentance is intriguing in somany ways |
| 16:10.35 | Maldivia | morning Cairenn :) |
| 16:10.58 | thr | Kaso: ^^ |
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| 16:12.48 | thr | hmm, if i wanna use a custom texture in wow |
| 16:12.53 | thr | does it have to be in any special format? |
| 16:12.56 | Maldivia | tga |
| 16:13.02 | thr | ok |
| 16:13.04 | Maldivia | power of 2 resolution |
| 16:13.04 | malreth | or blp... but tga is easier |
| 16:13.05 | Cairenn | and power of 2 |
| 16:13.17 | malreth | 32 bpp |
| 16:13.26 | Maldivia | 32bpp isn't necessary |
| 16:13.27 | thr | power of 2 res? o:O |
| 16:13.36 | Maldivia | 4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512 |
| 16:13.37 | Kaso | 16x16 32x32 etc |
| 16:13.39 | thr | ah |
| 16:13.42 | Maldivia | for width/hight |
| 16:13.43 | malreth | oh? then 8 bit per channel optional alpha |
| 16:14.01 | malreth | Kaso: 32x64 would also be acceptable |
| 16:14.16 | Kaso | really? i could of swarn they had to be square |
| 16:14.20 | Maldivia | nope |
| 16:14.27 | Kaso | hm, my memeory sucks |
| 16:15.27 | Maldivia | then garbage collect |
| 16:15.41 | Kaso | isnt that what blinking is? |
| 16:15.43 | TS|Skrom | XD |
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| 16:26.24 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 16:26.39 | cogwheel | WTB forum access... :( |
| 16:27.07 | SB1-Work | Something tells me this is a large room full of WoW addicts, constantly checking their e-mail all morning long |
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| 16:28.18 | Cairenn | heh |
| 16:28.20 | Maldivia | ScytheBlade: and you're one of them ? |
| 16:28.48 | SB1-Work | Maldivia, ssshhhh... though I'm not technically checking it, I'm grepping through a half-gig of e-mail for "beta.worldofwarcraft" |
| 16:30.43 | Kaso | gah, i hate infinite while loops |
| 16:31.30 | Industrial | I have matches holding my eyes open |
| 16:31.31 | Industrial | waiting for the mal |
| 16:31.31 | cogwheel | stack overflow > infinite loops ;) |
| 16:31.31 | Industrial | mail |
| 16:31.32 | malreth | huh? |
| 16:31.34 | malreth | oh... not me |
| 16:33.01 | cogwheel | "ARGH!" at not being able to give this guy a clue... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44857303&sid=1 |
| 16:35.32 | Kirkburn | YAY KEY! |
| 16:35.37 | Kirkburn | KEY KEY KEY! |
| 16:35.43 | Cairenn | YAY! |
| 16:35.47 | Kaso | omgomgomg |
| 16:35.54 | Maldivia | WEE |
| 16:35.56 | `-FISKER_Q\ | WEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 16:35.58 | `-FISKER_Q\ | or? |
| 16:36.00 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 16:36.04 | Kaso | <3 you cair! |
| 16:36.06 | Kirkburn | I love that bing bong sound |
| 16:36.18 | Cairenn | Kaso: just got yours? |
| 16:36.21 | Kaso | yah |
| 16:36.25 | Kirkburn | Much <3 for the Cairenn :D |
| 16:36.26 | Industrial | KLJHSDFLKJHDF |
| 16:36.43 | Xuerian | ~console Industrial |
| 16:36.49 | purl | ACTION gives Industrial the consolation moose |
| 16:36.49 | Kirkburn | It'll come :) |
| 16:36.49 | SB1-Work | ONE NEW E-MAIL |
| 16:36.51 | cogwheel | "In other news, gmail has crashed due to hundreds of hyped up World of Warcraft addicts clicking 'check mail' at the same time, essentially constituting a Denial of Service attack." |
| 16:36.53 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 16:36.55 | SB1-Work | <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>try our men-strong-health meds and enjoy your new life</FONT></DIV> |
| 16:36.55 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: go post in my "free keys for authors" with a YAY Key! |
| 16:37.00 | SB1-Work | That's so *NOT* what I'm looking for. |
| 16:37.08 | Industrial | puh-leeeeeze |
| 16:37.15 | Kaso | want the EU post bumping? |
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| 16:37.24 | SB1-Work | ls |
| 16:37.24 | Cairenn | yeah, that's the one I'm referring to |
| 16:37.26 | SB1-Work | err |
| 16:37.28 | SB1-Work | Wrong window |
| 16:37.29 | Cairenn | no one can post on US atm |
| 16:37.32 | Kaso | oh |
| 16:37.38 | Kaso | i understand now |
| 16:37.38 | Cairenn | just got another confirmed in Ace channel |
| 16:37.39 | Kaso | nm |
| 16:38.18 | Kaso | So, is there any EU realm that devs are going to or am i picking one randomly |
| 16:38.23 | Maldivia | "Expansion Account Upgrade - Success!" |
| 16:38.37 | SB1-Work | Could anyone give me the e-mail subject line? |
| 16:38.40 | Cairenn | Maldivia: yay! |
| 16:38.47 | Kaso | "Blizzard Entertainment- Burning Crusade Key!" |
| 16:38.51 | SB1-Work | ty |
| 16:38.52 | Maldivia | Blizzard Entertainment- Burning Crusade Key! |
| 16:38.56 | Fisker | It would be cool if blizzard would start doing something for rogues |
| 16:38.56 | Industrial | Maldivia: grats |
| 16:39.02 | Fisker | "Blizzard Entertainment- Burning Crusade Key!" |
| 16:39.19 | Fisker | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1101905&sid=2 <-that one you want bumped? |
| 16:39.20 | Kaso | Maldivia which realm are you going onto? |
| 16:39.22 | SB1-Work | Bah, I lack mine... |
| 16:39.32 | Industrial | people |
| 16:39.32 | Cairenn | yes please |
| 16:39.33 | SB1-Work | :( |
| 16:39.37 | Industrial | lets all go to the same realm |
| 16:39.38 | Cairenn | just confirm you've gotten your key |
| 16:39.41 | Industrial | and start a guild |
| 16:39.47 | SB1-Work | They already have, Industrial |
| 16:39.49 | SB1-Work | The PvE one |
| 16:39.50 | Industrial | good |
| 16:39.54 | SB1-Work | Both horde and alliance |
| 16:40.00 | Industrial | horde, ofcource :P |
| 16:40.03 | Kirkburn | And here? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=78588035&postId=807824601&sid=1#8 |
| 16:40.09 | Fisker | heh i got no key :) |
| 16:40.09 | Industrial | can you play horde AND alliance on pve servers? |
| 16:40.14 | Maldivia | Kaso: I'll probably copy my aliance char to the pvp server |
| 16:40.17 | Fisker | or i got one but not from you guys :D |
| 16:40.17 | Industrial | Fisker: yet! |
| 16:40.19 | SB1-Work | You can |
| 16:40.22 | Fisker | i'll just let Kirkburn do the hard work |
| 16:40.26 | SB1-Work | You can |
| 16:40.31 | Fisker | then i won't get permabanned for breaking the rules |
| 16:40.31 | SB1-Work | Bah, wrong window again |
| 16:40.32 | Kaso | aww, your a dirty gnome arent you, forgot that |
| 16:40.33 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeeh i got my BC beta key !! |
| 16:40.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | any1 wana buy ? 100 euro |
| 16:40.53 | SB1-Work | Whoo, another e-mail! |
| 16:40.56 | Fisker | wow boards are serious business imo |
| 16:41.09 | Fisker | "OMG no ASCII, you get permabanned KEKE" |
| 16:41.09 | SB1-Work | Return-Path: <gilbert@esp2office.biz> |
| 16:41.09 | Maldivia | Kaso: are you horde or alliance? |
| 16:41.11 | SB1-Work | MORE SPAM! |
| 16:41.12 | SB1-Work | -.- |
| 16:41.13 | Kaso | Horde |
| 16:41.17 | Fisker | Ommra's sig = pure ascii :/ |
| 16:41.27 | Maldivia | Kaso: my main char is alliance |
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| 16:41.46 | Kirkburn | lol, the upgrade page used my old password :/ |
| 16:41.48 | Fisker | so who's alliance on EU-Bloodmyst? |
| 16:42.16 | Cairenn | SB1-Work: Industrial is EU, not US |
| 16:42.18 | Fisker | (Don't transfer tempest keep, it's pretty unstable :P) |
| 16:42.23 | Industrial | Cairenn: incorrect |
| 16:42.25 | SB1-Work | Cairenn, ah, that'd do it |
| 16:42.28 | Industrial | Cairenn: :D |
| 16:42.33 | SB1-Work | Or ... not |
| 16:42.35 | Industrial | Cairenn: I am playing US now |
| 16:42.37 | Cairenn | oh, right, I forgot, you got a US accunt |
| 16:42.42 | Cairenn | Hellfire is the realm |
| 16:42.46 | SB1-Work | s/resums/resumes/ |
| 16:43.03 | Industrial | ok I need to get my mind off of it - ill go have dinner |
| 16:43.05 | Kaso | I need to get some cash on my main before i copy |
| 16:43.08 | Industrial | brb in 5 mins |
| 16:43.19 | SB1-Work | router new # ls |
| 16:43.20 | SB1-Work | router new # ls |
| 16:43.21 | SB1-Work | :( |
| 16:44.41 | thr | Hm is it possible to fade a texture ingame? |
| 16:44.46 | thr | Like change it's alpha dynamiclu? |
| 16:44.48 | thr | *icly. |
| 16:44.49 | Cairenn | so *is* anyone signed in on the US forums still? |
| 16:44.56 | thr | oh found itr |
| 16:45.02 | eternally777 | thr: yeah. |
| 16:45.21 | Kirkburn | lol SECOND key :P |
| 16:45.34 | Kirkburn | muahaha |
| 16:45.35 | SB1-Work | Kirkburn, share the wealth? I still don't have mine ;) |
| 16:45.45 | cogwheel | Kirkburn: you won one from ui.worldofwar right? |
| 16:45.53 | SB1-Work | But apparently they're still sending them out, so eh |
| 16:45.54 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 16:45.56 | SB1-Work | I shall be patient |
| 16:46.00 | SB1-Work | ... or die trying. |
| 16:47.42 | Maldivia | hmm, which realms on EU servers, are the UI guilds on? |
| 16:48.01 | Cairenn | there aren't on EU yet |
| 16:48.03 | Cairenn | make them! |
| 16:48.16 | Industrial | do people actually PLAY in the UI guillds? or are there only testcharone's ? |
| 16:48.25 | Cairenn | Industrial: they're playing |
| 16:48.26 | Kaso | your main realm doesnt effect where you can transfer too do they? |
| 16:48.28 | Kirkburn | My housemate is a very lucky bugger :P |
| 16:48.34 | Industrial | Kirkburn: zomg :P |
| 16:48.49 | Kaso | Also Second question: can i copy my char over twice? |
| 16:48.54 | Industrial | I havent got mine :( |
| 16:49.03 | SB1-Work | Cairenn, do you still have the list you sent in? For the first batch? |
| 16:49.09 | Industrial | yeah |
| 16:49.10 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:49.11 | Maldivia | kaso: yes you can |
| 16:49.11 | Cairenn | SB1-Work: of course |
| 16:49.17 | Cairenn | another confirmed in ace channel |
| 16:49.20 | Industrial | Cairenn: tom.wieland@gmail.com ? |
| 16:49.24 | Industrial | >_< |
| 16:49.35 | SB1-Work | Cairenn, mine searching for my e-mail in that list? Just search for this nick and it *should* be brought up |
| 16:49.53 | Kaso | Maldivia shall we "pick" a realm for the EU people then? |
| 16:49.56 | Cairenn | Industrial: your name is there |
| 16:50.02 | Industrial | woot |
| 16:50.03 | Cide | ye, well. no... tom.wieland@gmail.com was removed from the list due to a special request by blizzard |
| 16:50.05 | Kirkburn | Kaso, sounds like a good idea |
| 16:50.12 | Maldivia | Kaso: should be a PvE realm then? |
| 16:50.28 | Kaso | yah makes sense for it to be pve, |
| 16:50.33 | Cairenn | Maldivia: if you want to be able to have one on each side, it has to be |
| 16:50.37 | Kaso | Tempest Keep? sounds cool name |
| 16:50.49 | Cairenn | so pick one, announce it in the various threads and make it the defacto for authors |
| 16:51.09 | Maldivia | Tempest Keep is the English PvE - so TK it is |
| 16:51.35 | |FF|Im2good4u | im one of the lucky ui coders that got a key :P |
| 16:51.48 | SB1-Work | Erm, *pokes |
| 16:51.48 | Cairenn | SB1-Work: what's your nick on the site? |
| 16:51.51 | SB1-Work | <-- |
| 16:51.53 | SB1-Work | Erm |
| 16:51.58 | SB1-Work | ScytheBlade1 |
| 16:52.06 | SB1-Work | Forgot ;P |
| 16:52.11 | Cairenn | well duh |
| 16:52.14 | Cairenn | thank you :p |
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| 16:52.24 | Cairenn | yes you are there |
| 16:52.32 | malreth | my little gmail icon remains gray and lonely in my menubar... |
| 16:52.46 | SB1-Work | Cairenn, mind pasting me the e-mail I provided? |
| 16:52.50 | malreth | it needs the warming glow of a beta key to make it happy deep inside |
| 16:52.55 | SB1-Work | Now that I think about it, I'm not sure which one I specified :P |
| 16:53.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys if i copy a char does that means the old charecter stays ? |
| 16:53.12 | SB1-Work | Yes |
| 16:53.12 | Cide | |FF|Im2good4u: yes... :P |
| 16:53.14 | Maldivia | yes, that's the idea of a Copy |
| 16:53.16 | Kaso | Succes! : Kaso from Genjuros (PvP) to Tempest Keep (PvE) |
| 16:53.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | oke :P becase i not wana loose my charecter due the beta test :P |
| 16:53.48 | Kaso | Shall we use the US guild names also, CastSpell and TargetUnit wasnt it? |
| 16:54.07 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 16:54.13 | Maldivia | let find something cooler :) |
| 16:54.20 | Cairenn | those ARE cool |
| 16:54.33 | Cairenn | they were approved by slouken, after he finished laughing his ass off |
| 16:54.41 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 16:54.49 | malreth | CastSpellByName was too long? |
| 16:54.55 | Cairenn | Alliance: CastSpell |
| 16:54.55 | Cairenn | Horde: TargetUnit |
| 16:55.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | RegisterForSave :p |
| 16:55.08 | Maldivia | Kaso: Horde name: HasKey !! :) |
| 16:55.13 | SB1-Work | ... stupid work |
| 16:55.14 | SB1-Work | afk |
| 16:56.39 | Saroz | wut |
| 16:56.40 | Saroz | Blizzard Entertainment- Burning Crusade Key! |
| 16:56.41 | Saroz | ftw |
| 16:57.00 | Kaso | EU people : http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1251800&postId=12311869&sid=2#0 |
| 16:57.06 | Cairenn | okay, I gotta go, back later all |
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| 16:58.03 | Cairenn|afk | another just confirmed in ace channel |
| 16:58.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | me2 Saroz :p |
| 16:58.28 | Saroz | :p |
| 16:59.48 | Saroz | Now which server? |
| 16:59.50 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Xorro (i=Xorro@dhcp-128-194-47-81.resnet.tamu.edu) |
| 16:59.52 | Kirkburn | Tempest Keep ftw, I'm going to try sorting out cables so I can have this on at the same time as my Beta rug :) |
| 17:00.01 | Kaso | ok, so someone stole my name ! |
| 17:00.02 | Kirkburn | (Tempest Keep for EU people) |
| 17:00.04 | Saroz | ok |
| 17:00.11 | Kaso | Saroz |
| 17:00.16 | Kaso | are ypou US or EU? |
| 17:00.19 | Xorro | so, on the subject of beta invites. |
| 17:00.37 | Grine | Kaso, is Tempest Keep PvE or PvP? |
| 17:00.42 | Kaso | PvE |
| 17:00.43 | Xorro | anyone from day 2 get their invite yet? |
| 17:00.53 | Kaso | but,only come totempest keep if you're EU |
| 17:00.56 | Grine | meh@PvE :P |
| 17:00.57 | Saroz | ye Kaso |
| 17:01.03 | Saroz | EU pve |
| 17:01.07 | Grine | I'm on the PvPEU already ;) |
| 17:01.18 | Kaso | thats really wierd |
| 17:01.31 | Kaso | ive got equipment on that i'd never wear in this set, and ive got like tonnes of buffs |
| 17:02.23 | Saroz | wut, only 23 hours to go |
| 17:03.34 | Warla | hmm |
| 17:03.40 | Warla | any lua 5.1 experts here? |
| 17:03.55 | Xorro | i'm hardly an expert, but I'll help if I can. |
| 17:04.01 | Warla | http://wowi.pastey.net/2213-wp8e <-- i dont find the error here for burning crusade.. keeps telling me same error :-/ |
| 17:04.04 | Warla | and i have no clue which it could be |
| 17:04.14 | Warla | has to do something with the new # |
| 17:04.17 | Warla | i'm sure |
| 17:04.46 | malreth | what's the error and line no.? |
| 17:05.18 | Xorro | yea, that would help a bit |
| 17:05.21 | Warla | 1263: attempt to index global 'arg' (a nil value) |
| 17:05.29 | Kaso | 1c respecs <3 |
| 17:05.35 | Warla | this error happens every time i open the spellbook |
| 17:05.36 | Saroz | WTB mirror for TBC download :( |
| 17:05.41 | malreth | oookay... which line is that in the pastey? |
| 17:05.43 | Warla | = the function i pasted on pastey |
| 17:05.44 | Cide | you need to convert that to the line numbers in the paste |
| 17:05.52 | Warla | no idea which like :-/ |
| 17:05.55 | Warla | thats my prob |
| 17:06.07 | Warla | which line .. |
| 17:06.17 | Cide | um, open up the file in your favorite editor and use "go to line"? |
| 17:06.29 | Kirkburn | Wordpad :P |
| 17:06.34 | Warla | works in notepad? |
| 17:06.35 | Warla | k sec |
| 17:06.39 | Cide | works in notepad, yes |
| 17:06.45 | Cide | ctrl+g |
| 17:06.49 | Kirkburn | It does? Oooh |
| 17:06.51 | malreth | notepad has a "go to line"? wow... |
| 17:06.54 | Kirkburn | I was just being silly |
| 17:07.23 | Warla | word pad |
| 17:07.27 | Warla | wheres that go to line? lol |
| 17:07.36 | Cide | ctrl+g most likely |
| 17:07.37 | Xorro | I wonder if gmail will kick me off for refreshing so often..... |
| 17:07.47 | Kirkburn | Hmm, nah, not in Wordpad of Notepad :( |
| 17:07.52 | Warla | nah ctrl-g doesnt work |
| 17:07.57 | Cide | use notepad then |
| 17:08.13 | malreth | Warla, what do you use to edit your lua files then? |
| 17:08.22 | Warla | k |
| 17:08.29 | Warla | line 1263 is |
| 17:08.45 | Warla | local split=floor(arg.n/2); |
| 17:08.45 | malreth | Warla: normally, that is. What is your normal programming editor? |
| 17:08.47 | Warla | ohh i c |
| 17:08.47 | thr | Hmm ok what is wrong if u just get a green square instead of my texture? |
| 17:08.56 | Warla | its not in the function i thought it is |
| 17:09.02 | Cide | there you go :P |
| 17:09.12 | Warla | arg.n i can just replace with #arg right? |
| 17:09.15 | malreth | thr: it means you either have a bad texture file or you didn't reference the path correctly |
| 17:09.20 | Cide | no, Warla |
| 17:09.23 | malreth | Warla: there is no arg anymore |
| 17:09.24 | Warla | let me post the function quickly |
| 17:09.24 | thr | malreth: hmm ok |
| 17:09.27 | Cide | arg.n is replaced by select('#', ...) |
| 17:09.46 | Cide | arg[something] is replaced by select(something, ...) |
| 17:09.59 | Warla | http://wowi.pastey.net/2215-2s4u |
| 17:10.02 | Cide | unpack(arg) is replaced by ... |
| 17:10.19 | Xorro | yea, that's your problem |
| 17:10.28 | Industrial | no key yet |
| 17:10.28 | Industrial | :( |
| 17:10.38 | Warla | so "arg.n" --> "select('#', ...)" |
| 17:10.48 | Xorro | no key yet either, Industrial |
| 17:10.52 | Xorro | don't worry, have faith. |
| 17:10.54 | Cide | Warla: http://wowi.pastey.net/2216 |
| 17:10.57 | Industrial | I think it should be done sending 500 emails by now Cairenn|afk :P |
| 17:11.11 | Maldivia | hmm, rockbiter now lasts 30m... |
| 17:11.16 | Industrial | woah |
| 17:11.29 | Xorro | is that a good woah, or a bad woah? |
| 17:11.38 | Kaso | So, im at the guildmaster, what Horde guild name shall i pick? |
| 17:11.39 | Warla | ahh... man those changes still confusing for me lol.. hope i get the hang on it soon |
| 17:11.59 | malreth | Warla: what editor do you normally use to program in? |
| 17:12.03 | Xorro | Rock 'em, Sock 'em Robots |
| 17:12.06 | Xorro | make it so. |
| 17:12.40 | Maldivia | Kaso, guess we'll just reuse the CastSpell and TargetUnit? |
| 17:12.47 | Kaso | which was which? |
| 17:12.48 | Warla | norepad |
| 17:12.52 | Warla | notepad |
| 17:13.03 | malreth | i recommend getting an actual programming editor |
| 17:13.09 | Xorro | Scite is nice |
| 17:13.13 | Cide | TextPad! |
| 17:13.31 | Warla | which lua editor can you suggest? |
| 17:13.34 | Cide | TextPad! |
| 17:13.43 | zenzelezz | Kaso: <Cairenn> Alliance: CastSpell <Cairenn> Horde: TargetUnit |
| 17:13.54 | malreth | I just started using this one yesterday and i'm pretty happy with it... simple to use: http://zigmar.googlepages.com/notepad2withluasupport |
| 17:14.00 | Xorro | SciTE is my editor of choice. |
| 17:14.11 | Kaso | ill run around finding some noobies to sign then kick em |
| 17:14.17 | thr | ok well i dont know who said the had to be square, but you were right. |
| 17:14.26 | thr | I tried to use a 128x256 texture it would not let me ;( |
| 17:14.32 | thr | so changed it to 256x256 and it worked. |
| 17:15.01 | malreth | thr: seriously, it doesn't have to be a square... several of the blizzard provided textures are non-square dimensions |
| 17:15.06 | Warla | k sweet it halfway works now |
| 17:15.11 | Warla | but heres a nice one: |
| 17:15.18 | thr | malreth: hm ok, i maybe something was wrong with the original file then |
| 17:15.44 | malreth | also, status bar textures are rectangles |
| 17:15.45 | Warla | Interface/frameXML/PaperDollFrame.lua:487 attempt to call method "GetName" (a nil value) |
| 17:16.05 | Xorro | where are you using the GetName function in your addon? |
| 17:16.19 | Cide | that's either a vanilla ui error (somewhat unlikely), or you modified something |
| 17:16.31 | Cide | s/you/you or somebody else/ |
| 17:16.39 | malreth | Warla: http://www.wowace.com/files/ |
| 17:16.46 | malreth | install !BugGrabber and BugSack |
| 17:16.49 | Warla | thats the funny thing... nowhere |
| 17:16.52 | malreth | it'll give you better error messages |
| 17:16.57 | malreth | and a stack trace |
| 17:17.02 | Warla | i dont use GetName neither in the XML nor Lua file |
| 17:17.04 | malreth | it could be some other addon causing that error |
| 17:17.13 | Warla | i only have my addon |
| 17:17.16 | Warla | no others |
| 17:17.22 | Warla | its fresh BC install |
| 17:17.23 | Xorro | strange then. |
| 17:17.25 | Warla | with my addon |
| 17:17.26 | Warla | yea |
| 17:17.37 | malreth | then the stack trace will give you the line number of which file in your addon is really causing the error |
| 17:17.43 | Warla | k |
| 17:17.51 | Warla | http://www.wowace.com/files/ ? |
| 17:18.08 | malreth | yep... get the latest verision of !BugGrabber and BugSack |
| 17:18.12 | malreth | oh wait.. |
| 17:18.16 | malreth | you're on TBC |
| 17:18.18 | malreth | hmm... |
| 17:18.26 | malreth | those may not work then |
| 17:18.26 | Warla | hmm i can narrow it down |
| 17:18.32 | Xorro | I sure wish I had my invite so I could help you |
| 17:18.37 | Xorro | but I don't, so I can't :( |
| 17:18.39 | Warla | its when i click the button "Start Character Scan" sec... |
| 17:19.30 | Warla | snap |
| 17:20.23 | Warla | http://wowi.pastey.net/2217-1j2q <-- can be any of those functions i call inside |
| 17:20.39 | Warla | ohh |
| 17:20.41 | Warla | i have an idea |
| 17:20.47 | Warla | most likely the honor functions |
| 17:20.57 | Warla | arent they deprecated anyway now that the honor system changed? |
| 17:21.00 | Xorro | try commenting whatever you think and reloading |
| 17:21.11 | Warla | i'll comment the gethonor one... |
| 17:22.01 | Warla | yea its one of them... i'll uncomment them 1 by 1 so i know which :-) |
| 17:22.03 | malreth | well, you *might* be able to just install !BugGrabber from the wowace file repo... it should just output a stack trace into the main chat frame |
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| 17:22.16 | malreth | stack traces make this kind of debugging really easy |
| 17:22.22 | malreth | well... easier |
| 17:22.27 | malreth | maybe not really easy |
| 17:22.31 | malreth | but better |
| 17:22.34 | malreth | definately |
| 17:23.13 | Xorro | this wait is killing me. |
| 17:23.16 | Xorro | i'm gonna go eat. |
| 17:23.20 | Xorro | check you guys later |
| 17:25.39 | Maldivia | uhh... like the "enemy cast bar" on nameplates :) |
| 17:26.04 | malreth | i saw screenshots of those... |
| 17:26.12 | Maldivia | and is the circle-animation, when you start an attack new? |
| 17:27.10 | Industrial | no key yet |
| 17:27.12 | Industrial | :( |
| 17:27.22 | Kaso | http://kasoo.net/img/imgs/mountawesomeness.jpg <3 glad to see one of the biggest priest bugs is fixed |
| 17:27.58 | Fisker | eh? |
| 17:28.04 | Fisker | that was fixed ??? years ago? |
| 17:28.15 | Kaso | years ago? |
| 17:28.24 | Fisker | yeah? |
| 17:28.31 | Kaso | i mean that the shadowform faded when you mounted |
| 17:28.36 | Kaso | not that you coudnt mount |
| 17:28.52 | Fisker | ah |
| 17:28.57 | Cide | yes, that's a BC bug fix |
| 17:29.24 | Fisker | pretty sure i saw people with that shadow glow still as priests with shadowform |
| 17:29.35 | Fisker | although it wasn't nearly as intensive as that one |
| 17:29.50 | Cide | exactly, that was the bug |
| 17:30.09 | malreth | too bad! |
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| 17:30.13 | malreth | you get none! |
| 17:30.24 | Fisker | reroll all other classes for awesomeness |
| 17:30.25 | Cide | denied. |
| 17:30.33 | Fisker | for boredom and uselessness roll rogue |
| 17:30.44 | Cide | rogues are fine, l2p!! |
| 17:30.48 | malreth | i thought rogues were twitchy? |
| 17:30.49 | Cide | said the priest |
| 17:31.01 | Adrine | I am so very paranoid that gmail is going to eat a key email. Especially since people are saying they're getting them. :D |
| 17:31.11 | Industrial | twitchy? whats that? |
| 17:31.34 | Fisker | well if haven't regged with that email it could become a problem |
| 17:31.34 | Fisker | :P |
| 17:31.44 | Industrial | i have |
| 17:32.54 | Xorro|FOOOOOOD | Adrine: I know what you mean |
| 17:33.21 | Xorro | still waiting for my key :( |
| 17:35.04 | Warla | my junkmail filter had my beta key tossed |
| 17:35.05 | Warla | lol |
| 17:35.09 | Warla | pwned by junkmailfilter |
| 17:35.20 | Adrine | Ouch |
| 17:35.39 | Xorro | luckily, gmail won't delete anything without your permission |
| 17:35.47 | Kaso | now, i wonder what's the best technique, enable all my addons and hope the resultant chaos turns into something useable, or enable them one by one and try to fix errors |
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| 17:38.11 | zenzelezz | so those of you in the beta, some guildies of mine keep saying you can buy the rank of spells granted by the books in AQ from trainers... any truth in that? |
| 17:38.25 | Xorro | so has anyone else from the first batch *NOT* received their key yet? |
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| 17:38.33 | Xorro | and zenzelezz, that is true from what I've heard |
| 17:38.40 | Adrine | zenzelezz: Yeah, at 61, apparently. |
| 17:38.42 | eternally777 | Xorro: I haven't |
| 17:38.50 | Adrine | (So says a good friend of mine, not in beta personally) |
| 17:38.53 | Adrine | (yet! :D) |
| 17:39.27 | Xorro | I think i'm gonna have a heart attack when I read "Gmail - Inbox (1)" |
| 17:39.36 | malreth | i signed up as soon as Cairenn announced the giveaway was opened here on the channel... i still have no key |
| 17:39.45 | Adrine | I've been having similar heart attacks since Friday, Xorro :) |
| 17:40.29 | Xorro | yea, malreth, I signed up pretty early (not that early though). |
| 17:40.30 | Adrine | I think I app'd right after the first batch was sent in, so I guess we'll see. |
| 17:40.38 | eternally777 | Xorro: I got an e-mail, but it was just notifying me that someone responded to a thread on my guild forums >.< |
| 17:41.04 | Xorro | yea, someone keeps signing my facebook wall and it's killing me. |
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| 17:43.43 | Warla | is there an application that extracts the images from Burning Crusade? |
| 17:43.51 | Warla | like the old extractor from blizzard |
| 17:43.58 | Warla | so i get all the new icons and stuff |
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| 17:44.24 | malreth | i think there's a new UI extractor from Blizzard that works with TBC |
| 17:44.50 | Xorro | What is the Paladin class color? I know shaman are Pink, what are Plaadins? |
| 17:44.56 | malreth | Pink |
| 17:44.58 | Adrine | Paladins are pink, too |
| 17:45.04 | Xorro | so how's that gonna work? |
| 17:45.07 | Adrine | I think shaman are getting a new color? |
| 17:45.07 | cryogen | shamans changed, not paladins |
| 17:45.12 | Xorro | favoratism! |
| 17:45.14 | Xorro | gasp! |
| 17:45.15 | cryogen | shamans is a kind of "teal" |
| 17:45.19 | Cide | yep |
| 17:45.23 | malreth | "Why do I gotta be Mr. Pink?" |
| 17:45.31 | Cide | 0, 0.86, 0.73 |
| 17:45.37 | Xorro | aww, that means chatmod is gonna be all funky |
| 17:45.38 | Cide | rgb |
| 17:45.47 | Warla | malreth is that on a special URL? |
| 17:45.48 | Cide | that's what you get for not using RAID_CLASS_COLORS ;) |
| 17:46.07 | Xorro | in his code, it says it doesn't work all the time. |
| 17:46.11 | Xorro | not sure how much truth there is to that. |
| 17:46.12 | malreth | Warla: i forget... it's probably somewhere on the UI&Macros forum |
| 17:46.41 | Cide | 00DBBA in hex, I believe |
| 17:50.50 | Tem | malreth, I <3 that movie |
| 17:51.38 | malreth | Tem: :D |
| 17:52.05 | Industrial | no key yet |
| 17:53.34 | Warla | damn |
| 17:53.48 | Warla | i checked the UI forums cannt find the damn wow image extractor from blizzard |
| 17:55.06 | Tem | it's linked in the changes thread |
| 17:55.09 | Tem | (for BC) |
| 17:55.19 | Warla | ohh not on the beta forums then |
| 17:55.37 | Tem | and the old version is probably linked the Mod Author Resources thread |
| 17:55.50 | deci | Industrial key got mailed to me |
| 17:56.02 | deci | selling it now, highest bidder, only accepting Roasted Quail |
| 17:58.15 | Kaso | TargetUnit Hordeside Tempest Keep EU formed! |
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| 18:03.11 | Adrine | Warla, there's a generic command line MPQ extractor running around out there somewhere |
| 18:04.29 | Warla | i got it |
| 18:04.34 | Warla | it extracted the BC stuff :-) |
| 18:04.43 | Warla | uhh did tables + for loops change too? |
| 18:04.49 | Tem | yes |
| 18:05.04 | Warla | for index,theSkill in Tradeskillsbase do <-- = not right anymore |
| 18:05.11 | Tem | for k,v in table has been deprecated since 5.0 |
| 18:05.23 | Warla | snap |
| 18:05.28 | Warla | whats the work around? |
| 18:05.30 | Tem | (deprecated in favor of for k,v in pairs(table) do) |
| 18:05.33 | Adrine | It's for k,v in pairs(table), yes? |
| 18:05.45 | Tem | in 5.1, the ability to do for k,v in table was removed |
| 18:05.54 | Warla | so all i need to do is wrap the tablename in pairs() |
| 18:06.01 | Tem | *nod* |
| 18:06.05 | Warla | woot |
| 18:06.07 | Warla | easy |
| 18:06.08 | Warla | thx :-) |
| 18:06.30 | Adrine | wtb [Key email], PST |
| 18:06.36 | Adrine | I really shouldn't be this impatient. :) |
| 18:07.45 | Tem | mine took a month from when I knew it was coming |
| 18:07.46 | Cide | given that burning crusade is awesome, I understand you >( |
| 18:07.53 | Tem | I jumped at every email for 2 weeks |
| 18:07.56 | Cide | err :) |
| 18:08.07 | Adrine | I've had the chance to tool around on a friend's account, and it just completely saps my desire to play vanilla WoW |
| 18:08.15 | Adrine | Because it's all so...pretty. And new. And waaaaaant. |
| 18:08.23 | Tem | *nod* |
| 18:08.52 | Adrine | I'm all paranoid that I got skipped over, or I misread something, or I mis-typed my email, or don't know what. :D |
| 18:09.06 | Tem | hehe |
| 18:09.20 | Cide | your submission was cancelled due to lack of interest |
| 18:09.29 | Adrine | ;__________; |
| 18:09.36 | Adrine | Many tears! |
| 18:09.43 | Cide | uh oh! just kidding! |
| 18:10.08 | Cide | I hate it when I spend hours debugging only to find that it was a single one-liner I had overlooked |
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| 18:10.48 | Adrine | Those are my favorites. Heh. |
| 18:11.03 | Grine | nothing like working for 2 hours on a bug in c++ only to find you missed a ; |
| 18:12.09 | Adrine | I'd think that a missed semicolon would be fairly easy to find |
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| 18:12.37 | thr | hmm |
| 18:12.44 | Grine | well yeah :P |
| 18:12.54 | Grine | unless your seriously tired |
| 18:13.09 | Cide | I'd hope so, unless the compiler is from 1991 |
| 18:13.37 | Cide | "An error occured, aborting." |
| 18:13.57 | Adrine | "your source doesn't work, please try again" |
| 18:13.59 | Industrial | k |
| 18:14.03 | Industrial | I took the whole day off |
| 18:14.05 | Industrial | and didnt sleep |
| 18:14.09 | Industrial | checkimg my email |
| 18:14.14 | Industrial | its 7:14 pm |
| 18:14.19 | Industrial | *cry* |
| 18:14.38 | cryogen | ah compilers, yes |
| 18:14.40 | Adrine | I'm just hoping that Blizzard got hung up doing the server upgrades |
| 18:14.41 | cryogen | they can be fun |
| 18:14.46 | Adrine | And that they'll be sending out more emails shortly! |
| 18:14.55 | cryogen | there's a REALLY weird compiler error you can trigger with our source at work |
| 18:15.02 | cryogen | and its really not obvious what the problem is |
| 18:15.31 | cryogen | something like "x something got, expected -20001231" |
| 18:15.52 | Industrial | damn you MoonWolf |
| 18:16.04 | Industrial | ik wil ooooook :( |
| 18:16.20 | MoonWolf | ff geduld |
| 18:16.23 | MoonWolf | komt wel |
| 18:16.27 | MoonWolf | hoop ik. |
| 18:16.41 | Cide | is that dutch? |
| 18:16.43 | Industrial | yea |
| 18:17.42 | zenzelezz | I browsed the compiler errors for VC++ once while bored, some pretty funny ones there |
| 18:17.47 | Cide | crazy language |
| 18:17.49 | zenzelezz | "more than 16000 errors in file, aborting" |
| 18:18.09 | MoonWolf | its only aborting at 16000 errors ? |
| 18:18.24 | zenzelezz | if it doesn't encounter any *critical* errors before that, apparently |
| 18:18.56 | MoonWolf | do they really think an program can run with more then a 100 non critical errors ? |
| 18:19.05 | zenzelezz | doubt it |
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| 18:30.11 | clad | So would anyone be horribly broken if i stabbed myself in the face, with a hammer? |
| 18:30.25 | Shadowed | So, what did the idiots do this time |
| 18:30.31 | MoonWolf | id miss you. |
| 18:30.38 | clad | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2509.msg58298#msg58298 |
| 18:30.45 | Grine | you would be clad |
| 18:30.55 | Grine | why? |
| 18:31.13 | clad | an entire MONTH after the discussion in that thread stops.. Nihm shows up and starts it up again with "Blizzard is trying real hard not to let Decursive and SMH work in the expansion" |
| 18:31.16 | clad | NO SHIT SHERLOCK |
| 18:31.38 | Shadowed | See, this is why I want the ability to ban peoples in-game accounts |
| 18:31.48 | Shadowed | I could reduce server lag AND get rid of idiots at the same time |
| 18:32.37 | clad | Ok, i'm done for now. I'm just frustrated. Nimh did real impressive work on SMH, but cmon.. Blizzard has been quite clear about what they do and do not want. |
| 18:32.49 | Shadowed | SMH? |
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| 18:33.22 | jaxdahl | cogwheel, looks like 'for all intents and purposes' is incorrect |
| 18:33.42 | clad | Shadowed: Simply Magical Healer |
| 18:33.46 | cogwheel | :( |
| 18:33.48 | clad | i.e. spam a button, keep the raid alive. |
| 18:34.15 | jaxdahl | that is the first interface change i've heard of that is going live for BC and not 2.0 |
| 18:34.25 | MoonWolf | i made a bad post |
| 18:34.26 | MoonWolf | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2509.msg58298#msg58298 |
| 18:34.32 | jaxdahl | so that is why i asked slouken about that |
| 18:34.45 | cogwheel | I think the live patch is in feature freeze at this point |
| 18:34.58 | cogwheel | not sure though... |
| 18:35.06 | clad | lol MoonWolf.. I think we're bad moderators =) |
| 18:35.23 | jaxdahl | i think slouken refers to BC as 2.0.1, but i'm not sure |
| 18:35.23 | MoonWolf | no, we are very outspoken moderators |
| 18:35.23 | Adrine | Pff, people need to be slapped down occassionally |
| 18:35.43 | cogwheel | I heard that 2.0.1 will be the first one "live" sees... The beta is currently at 2.0.1 |
| 18:35.43 | MoonWolf | and i am getting sick of all the people who think that we are supposed to some kind of polar opposit of blizzard on this point. |
| 18:35.52 | SB1-Work | ~lart clad |
| 18:35.55 | MoonWolf | next thread about this gets a few locks. |
| 18:36.04 | jaxdahl | cogwheel, the pubbies will have a field day with the version numbering semantics |
| 18:36.06 | clad | MoonWolf: ZOMG ACE IS TEH ANTI-BLIZZARD |
| 18:36.21 | SB1-Work | ~lart clad |
| 18:37.14 | clad | okay.. i gotta head back to work.. but i needed to vent there for a minute. |
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| 18:37.43 | clad | Moonwolf: can you try sending me a message on googletalk.. i need to see if my client is still borked. |
| 18:37.58 | MoonWolf | let me get online. |
| 18:38.03 | clad | thx |
| 18:38.30 | SB1-Work | ~lart clad |
| 18:38.35 | SB1-Work | Just for good measure |
| 18:38.46 | MoonWolf | anything clad ? |
| 18:39.03 | clad | no, i dont even see you online.. but i can talk to beladona just fine.. |
| 18:39.16 | MoonWolf | let me try the actual non email client. |
| 18:39.55 | Beladona | =D |
| 18:41.03 | MoonWolf | anything ? |
| 18:41.36 | MoonWolf | clad ? |
| 18:42.19 | clad | no |
| 18:42.27 | clad | you just be hitting one of my other clients.. that's weird. |
| 18:42.31 | clad | i stil ldont see you on my buddy list. |
| 18:42.44 | MoonWolf | I blame mircrosoft. |
| 18:42.53 | clad | k k |
| 18:42.56 | clad | i'll play with it later |
| 18:42.57 | clad | thanks |
| 18:43.00 | MoonWolf | np. |
| 18:44.12 | Kaso | The wording of the SpellUI seems bad |
| 18:44.20 | Kaso | oh wait |
| 18:44.23 | Kaso | nm im stupid |
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| 18:45.22 | Adrine | I wish I had numbers on who app'd/when/who has received/who has not/ratios and all that. |
| 18:45.44 | Adrine | My inbox is far too not-populated. |
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| 18:47.37 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:48.12 | Adrine | Heya, ckknight |
| 18:50.44 | Mike | Can anyone help me with this code, I don't know why it is not working: |
| 18:51.19 | Mike | http://pastey.net/2220 |
| 18:51.37 | Mike | I don't know why the recipient is not filling in. |
| 18:52.11 | Adrine | Does recipient get sent to the chat frame properly? |
| 18:52.19 | Mike | Nope. |
| 18:52.39 | Mike | I like that for debugging, sending to chat frame. |
| 18:52.47 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 18:52.47 | Adrine | I'd guess that itemType is neither a "Recipe" or "Consumable" then. |
| 18:52.54 | Adrine | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.04 | Mike | This is my first addon I am making, so I don't really know what I am doing. |
| 18:53.05 | JoshBorke | /wave Adrine |
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| 18:54.40 | Mike | Here is what prints when I option click a drink at the mail frame: |
| 18:54.49 | Mike | Trigger is true |
| 18:55.00 | Mike | item:27:0:0:0 |
| 18:55.04 | Mike | Consumable |
| 18:55.29 | Adrine | Oh, duh. Your if blocks are wrong. |
| 18:55.35 | Mike | Oh? |
| 18:55.40 | Mike | Do I need to use else? |
| 18:55.42 | Adrine | You can't have one-line ifs in Lua - you have to terminate them with end's |
| 18:55.56 | Mike | Humm. |
| 18:55.59 | Adrine | Also |
| 18:56.16 | Mike | Can you post a line of code like that please? |
| 18:56.20 | Adrine | Setting a local variable inside an if block will result in an invalid variable once you're out of the block |
| 18:56.21 | Adrine | Sure, one sec |
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| 18:58.44 | Adrine | http://pastey.net/2221 |
| 18:58.50 | Adrine | Something like that should work better. |
| 18:59.18 | Adrine | The way your had it set up, the mail would only be sent if itemType were both Recipe and Consumable. |
| 19:00.03 | Mike | Thanks |
| 19:00.29 | Mike | I have coded some BASIC a few years ago, so this stuff is a bit familiar. |
| 19:00.37 | Mike | But not enough, I suppose. |
| 19:00.58 | Mike | How could it be both, lol |
| 19:01.08 | Adrine | It can't :) |
| 19:01.11 | Warla | hmm does anyone know a good blp-->png converter? |
| 19:01.13 | Adrine | But that's what your logic was expecting |
| 19:01.20 | Warla | it seems the one i use cannt handle BC icons too well |
| 19:01.29 | Adrine | Does BC use a different BLP format? |
| 19:01.38 | Kirkburn | Any blood elves on EU Twisting Nether? |
| 19:01.42 | Warla | dunno it seems so |
| 19:01.46 | Warla | all icons are stripey |
| 19:01.50 | JoshBorke | i hate you all with your stupidh keys- |
| 19:02.37 | Mike | Good way for you to get one! |
| 19:02.40 | Kaso | Kirkburn what are you doing on Twisting nether! |
| 19:02.48 | Adrine | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1977-1-wowimage-blp.html - I've used that one with success before, Warla, though not with BC files. |
| 19:03.14 | Kirkburn | Uh Tempest Keep then :P |
| 19:03.27 | Adrine | Damn you, Tanya Tuttle. My email inbox does not want your home refinancing offers! |
| 19:03.47 | Kaso | im feeling loanly here, come on EU people! |
| 19:05.46 | Mike | Thanks, I will try this. |
| 19:06.07 | Mike | Now the item does not attack.. |
| 19:06.11 | Mike | attach* |
| 19:06.14 | Mike | Oh well. |
| 19:07.46 | ckknight | Kirkburn, I have a lvl 20 BE pally on Tempest Keep |
| 19:08.12 | Kirkburn | I'm called Alaana |
| 19:08.32 | Adrine | So I'm working on a testing suite for one of our internal XML-RPC engines, and after I make a source change, I keep tabbing back to my console and hitting "/rl<enter>" out of habit. |
| 19:08.58 | Adrine | "'/rl' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." - yes, thank you, Windows. |
| 19:09.07 | Kirkburn | Kaso, what you playing as atm? |
| 19:09.13 | Industrial | tey yek on |
| 19:09.17 | Kaso | Horde, kazoo |
| 19:09.28 | ckknight | hehe, Adrine |
| 19:09.31 | Industrial | tey yek on! |
| 19:09.49 | Industrial | (': |
| 19:11.37 | SB1-Work | So, I'm checking the mailbox on the *SERVER*, and suddenly, I have a new e-mail! |
| 19:12.00 | SB1-Work | You certainly understand what is the main quality of a man in relationships. You'll be dazzled to last for hours and hours with your new stronger, longer bed tool. Check up here: http://mneko.com/y/xl2/ |
| 19:12.00 | SB1-Work | Unlike other products, this one gives you permanent gains in size - and loads of pleasure! |
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| 19:12.33 | SB1-Work | That's so not what I'm looking for. |
| 19:12.38 | Industrial | :( |
| 19:12.55 | SB1-Work | Awesome, there's yet another piece of spam |
| 19:13.08 | SB1-Work | Wipe Out HighCardBalances |
| 19:13.08 | SB1-Work | WithoutDelay |
| 19:13.08 | SB1-Work | Don'tHesitate 1 314 414 4001 |
| 19:13.22 | SB1-Work | Five points to anyone who calls that number! |
| 19:13.23 | SB1-Work | afk food |
| 19:15.14 | Kirkburn | Everyone on EU beta ... Tempest Keep, Horde, Guild: TargetUnit ... Join, dammit! |
| 19:17.20 | Elkano | Tempest Keep is PvE, isn't it? |
| 19:17.28 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:17.47 | Elkano | ok, I think I'll start a lvl 1 BE there ^^ |
| 19:17.48 | Kaso | the Alliance guild CastSpell is being worked on by maldivia atm |
| 19:17.49 | Industrial | # # ##### # # |
| 19:17.53 | Industrial | # # # # # |
| 19:17.56 | Industrial | ### ##### ##### |
| 19:17.59 | Industrial | # # # # |
| 19:18.02 | Industrial | # # ##### ##### |
| 19:18.18 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:18.21 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 19:18.23 | Industrial | nothing still |
| 19:18.34 | JoshBorke | me neither :-( |
| 19:19.12 | Industrial | hm anyone know any free games that are small? "casual games" or scrolling shooters? |
| 19:19.20 | Industrial | (not GridWars ive played that to death now) |
| 19:19.41 | Warla | hmm |
| 19:19.52 | Warla | anyone knows how to convert those wow icons to tga?` |
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| 19:19.56 | Warla | a |
| 19:20.00 | Kirkburn | Kaso, cool |
| 19:20.01 | Warla | most new icons seem sliced |
| 19:20.23 | Thunder_Child | Industrial: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halozero/download.html?sid=6141109 |
| 19:22.57 | Industrial | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halozero/download_ini.html |
| 19:23.01 | Industrial | "sid required" |
| 19:23.02 | Industrial | :s |
| 19:23.18 | Thunder_Child | thats od |
| 19:23.20 | Thunder_Child | odd |
| 19:23.31 | Industrial | hm now it works |
| 19:23.54 | Industrial | You must be a registered member to download this file. |
| 19:23.56 | Industrial | sigh |
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| 19:25.29 | Thunder_Child | maybe you can find it somewhere else |
| 19:25.37 | Industrial | logler.com |
| 19:25.55 | Warla | noone knows how to convert the new BC icons to tga? :-/ |
| 19:26.55 | ckknight_ | what new icons? |
| 19:27.35 | Warla | the burning crusade ones |
| 19:27.46 | Warla | all blp2tga converters i tried mess them up |
| 19:27.50 | Maldivia | I have them in png formar, if that helps? |
| 19:28.00 | Warla | yea i have them in png as well |
| 19:28.04 | Warla | but i need them in Tga |
| 19:28.16 | Warla | and all my converters seem to screw them up |
| 19:28.30 | Adrine | If you have them in png, can't you just throw them into GIMP and convert them that way? |
| 19:28.42 | Warla | i dont have gimp |
| 19:28.45 | Warla | test this |
| 19:28.58 | Adrine | Gimp is free, FWIW :) |
| 19:28.59 | Warla | Ability_Hunter_SnakeTrap.blp |
| 19:29.11 | Adrine | There are lots of png->tga converters out there, non-WoW-related |
| 19:29.13 | Warla | can you check if gimp opens Ability_Hunter_SnakeTrap.blp correctly? |
| 19:29.21 | Adrine | Gimp won't read BLPs |
| 19:29.25 | Warla | Adrine i tested all 10 from curse gaming |
| 19:29.28 | Warla | they all fuck up |
| 19:29.43 | Adrine | [12:24] Warla: yea i have them in png as well |
| 19:29.56 | Adrine | I assumed you meant you had them in PNG working right |
| 19:30.03 | Adrine | Or do you mean they're in PNG but mangled? |
| 19:30.10 | Maldivia | why you need them in tga format? |
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| 19:33.29 | Warla|school | Ability_Hunter_SnakeTrap.blp <-- thats an extracted BC icon.... if you want i can pass that too ya i need an app that correctly converts them |
| 19:38.40 | warla | ? |
| 19:39.56 | cogwheel | ~lart the designer of cogwheel's work's database |
| 19:46.39 | SB1-Work | Someone paste me they subject line again? It's scrolled off my screen |
| 19:46.58 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:48.50 | ckknight | classtime |
| 19:49.17 | Kaso | I got a DefaultUI error in the beta, but the code that caused it is the same as in ive, whats up with that |
| 19:50.19 | Maldivia | when you get it ? |
| 19:51.24 | Kaso | StaticPopup 1070 (line 830 on live) |
| 19:51.48 | Maldivia | what triggers it? |
| 19:52.00 | Kaso | i was removing people from the guilds |
| 19:52.16 | Xorro | Adrine, get your key yet? |
| 19:52.31 | Kaso | clearly in the lag or something GuildFrame.selectedName was nil but it still allowed me to click remove so the string.format errored |
| 19:54.05 | krka | what realm do EU people use in TBC beta? |
| 19:54.19 | Maldivia | Tempest Keep |
| 19:54.28 | thr | btw |
| 19:54.37 | thr | those of you who were wondering what I wanted the hamster picture for |
| 19:54.44 | thr | http://www.sindrobe.se/velore_ui.jpg |
| 19:54.45 | malreth | noo! |
| 19:54.54 | thr | the thing in the middle ;P |
| 19:55.14 | thr | (no it's not a picture of me with a printed picture of a hamster in my ass... i promise) |
| 19:55.23 | Beladona | now make it look like it is rubbing its nose, or eating something, and you got yourself something special |
| 19:55.26 | malreth | oh no... |
| 19:55.30 | Beladona | (animated) |
| 19:55.35 | Kirkburn | awww, thr |
| 19:55.36 | malreth | well, at least it's not a paper clip |
| 19:55.41 | Beladona | omg |
| 19:56.01 | thr | I actually got it all to work, fading in/out, automatic scrolling, etc. etc. |
| 19:56.05 | thr | very tidy and nice tbh :) |
| 19:56.16 | thr | any addon can add messages to her, and she displays them. |
| 19:56.21 | Beladona | BuffTheHamster? |
| 19:56.26 | Adrine | Xorro: Afraid not :( |
| 19:56.30 | Beladona | why not simply BuffHamster? |
| 19:56.30 | malreth | you should make a custom backdrop image that looks like a speech bubble |
| 19:56.43 | thr | No, Molly is it's name.. Buff the hamster is an old thing i never deleted ;P |
| 19:56.59 | thr | malreth: ye i know, but me + graphics = nono, i got my ex. gf who's an graphic-artist-something to do the hamster for me |
| 19:57.12 | krka | thanks, tempest keep it is! |
| 19:57.15 | Beladona | lots of people here can do it |
| 19:57.23 | thr | and that hamster actually is her little brothers hamster irl ;p |
| 19:57.39 | malreth | backdrop slices are just pixel pushing.... easy |
| 19:57.47 | Beladona | hmm, maybe a custom edgefile, with a static graphic for the pointy thing |
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| 19:58.11 | thr | ye, but for now I'll have her like that got a few more thing i have to hammer out before it's done |
| 19:58.14 | Beladona | that way you can color it any color |
| 19:58.21 | malreth | Beladona: no, you can put the pointy thing in the edgefile itself as part of the corner... you just have to set the tilesize and that padding thing correctly |
| 19:58.29 | Beladona | well yeah |
| 19:58.37 | malreth | it'll simplify things |
| 19:58.37 | thr | and then I'm off to code the whole addon for watching debuffs, etc. |
| 19:58.38 | Beladona | there is a problem with that though |
| 19:59.07 | malreth | corners don't get scaled and the edges get tiled... it should work |
| 19:59.21 | Beladona | the background can't fill the ponty thing if it is part of the edgefile |
| 19:59.31 | Beladona | well, it can't as a static image either |
| 19:59.33 | Beladona | but anyway |
| 19:59.58 | Beladona | although if the edge is black, you could tint it |
| 19:59.58 | thr | well, for now I'm happy with this... if someone wanna do a chat-bubble-thingy for me go ahead but i wont, atleast not now ^^ |
| 20:00.00 | Beladona | I guess |
| 20:00.18 | Beladona | already working on it lol |
| 20:00.50 | thr | lol ;D |
| 20:01.10 | Beladona | he |
| 20:01.12 | Beladona | lol |
| 20:01.22 | thr | With that name, blame yourself ;P |
| 20:01.30 | Beladona | my chars are female |
| 20:01.35 | Beladona | so I went with it |
| 20:02.26 | Shadowed | Beladona just tries to get free stuff in-game! |
| 20:02.28 | thr | ye my char is female also, 'cept my troll male.. but i guess he could cross-dress. |
| 20:02.37 | thr | Shadowed: that works so good tho, it's sad. |
| 20:03.20 | Beladona | actually no, i could care less about free stuff |
| 20:03.27 | Beladona | I just like looking at boobs all day |
| 20:03.30 | thr | ;P |
| 20:03.32 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 20:03.42 | thr | manboobs to? ;p |
| 20:03.44 | SB1-Work | BAH |
| 20:03.51 | SB1-Work | I have a friend who got his key YESTERDAY |
| 20:03.56 | Mery | but people are much more forgiving if you screw up with a female char lol |
| 20:04.01 | Shadowed | did he get it from the wowinterface send-in-thing? |
| 20:04.04 | SB1-Work | And he was in the third batch! |
| 20:04.06 | SB1-Work | Yes! |
| 20:04.09 | Shadowed | odd |
| 20:04.12 | Shadowed | kill him |
| 20:04.14 | malreth | Mery: not if that female char has a manvoice on vent... |
| 20:04.18 | Beladona | they may be phasing it in |
| 20:04.19 | SB1-Work | Seconded, I just might |
| 20:04.30 | Mery | malreth: don't talk on vent =P |
| 20:04.38 | Shadowed | can't stand vent anyway |
| 20:04.56 | thr | malreth: hehe, one of my best ingame mates is like 55yr old male but plays a female human mage.. talk about surprise i got when I spoke to him on vent for the 1st time ;P |
| 20:04.59 | zenzelezz | <Mery> but people are much more forgiving if you screw up with a female char lol <--- only as long as you actually seem like a female |
| 20:05.07 | malreth | Shadowed: then how do you sing before a boss for good luck and success? |
| 20:05.08 | zenzelezz | which is tough over voice chat |
| 20:05.12 | Shadowed | we don't :p |
| 20:05.21 | Shadowed | my guild doesn't use vent for raids |
| 20:05.35 | thr | o.O |
| 20:05.41 | thr | you raid what? ubrs tops then? ;< |
| 20:05.44 | malreth | vent is vital for us. if we don't sing a song before a boss, we'll wipe for sure |
| 20:05.56 | thr | naxxramas without vent would, no... just don't go there. |
| 20:06.03 | Adrine | We do Naxx without Vent, FWIW. |
| 20:06.08 | Shadowed | thr: My guilds on KT, he'll be dead this week. we don't use vent |
| 20:06.08 | Mery | well in a guild everybody knows if you are male or female anyway - I was more talking about pickup groups |
| 20:06.15 | Adrine | We've never used Vent for raiding. It's just...too distracting, generally. |
| 20:06.17 | zenzelezz | we don't use Ventrilo either, we use TeamSpeak :-p |
| 20:06.29 | Shadowed | you don't need voice comm to go through naxx, no fight requires it |
| 20:06.30 | zenzelezz | depends what kind of chat you allow on it |
| 20:06.42 | thr | Shadowed: well I'm just seeing it from raidleader point of views(was RL for a longotime myself)... writing everything in chat... /cry |
| 20:06.52 | malreth | thr: macros |
| 20:06.57 | Adrine | Macros ftw. |
| 20:07.04 | Shadowed | I find it to be better, since if people are AFK or it's a confusing fight, being able to re-read what was said is helpful |
| 20:07.09 | malreth | and for the most part, addons can automate a lot of the pre-raid and encounter briefings |
| 20:07.22 | Shadowed | usually a member of the same class as a recruit will explain all the fights |
| 20:07.25 | thr | ye true, still i would not raid without vt ever - but that's just me |
| 20:07.37 | malreth | but vent is good for the unexpected |
| 20:07.39 | Adrine | We have class leaders whose job it is to ensure that their class members know what to do in a fight, so we have strategy stuff split 8 ways, too. |
| 20:07.48 | Adrine | Doesn't generally take much time. |
| 20:08.06 | malreth | like, MageSoAndSo got smeared... someone cover whelping on the east side! |
| 20:08.08 | Inside | The thing about ventrilo and stuff, is you just mute all the fuckers. |
| 20:08.12 | Inside | Only the raid leader can speak :P |
| 20:08.21 | Shadowed | eh, you don't even need vent for that malreth |
| 20:08.36 | malreth | no... you dont *NEED* vent for that |
| 20:08.38 | malreth | i know that |
| 20:08.51 | thr | but it's _alot_ quicker then writing it out |
| 20:08.53 | malreth | but it's helpful, from an HCI point of view |
| 20:08.56 | Adrine | help whelps left |
| 20:09.08 | Adrine | As long as people are alert, lacking Vent doesn't really hurt. |
| 20:09.16 | thr | Adrine: There's your first problem |
| 20:09.20 | Shadowed | I did razor -> nef with a guild that uses TS, then did start of naxx -> KT without it. It's not a big difference except you can't listen to music on one, and instead of people talking in class channels it's on voice comm |
| 20:09.20 | Adrine | Heh, indeed. |
| 20:09.20 | thr | You assume peole can think for themself. |
| 20:09.20 | malreth | you've got so much going on visually on the screen that you start to reach saturation for information intake |
| 20:09.36 | Mery | well we just used to whisper the mage that was supposed to take over, its fun "hey take over whelps I died" - "you did fine, I died too long befor you and watched you" |
| 20:09.58 | thr | ;P |
| 20:10.01 | Adrine | For the most part, with the exception of a few fights, the moron-gaps can be covered by those that are on their toes. |
| 20:10.02 | Shadowed | If people can't think for themselfs, you'll have issues going through naxx |
| 20:10.03 | thr | every1 here playes mage or what? ;> |
| 20:10.13 | Adrine | Rogue main, war/priest alts |
| 20:10.13 | Shadowed | Warrior/Priest/Rogue and a paladin soon |
| 20:10.16 | Shadowed | war main |
| 20:10.22 | thr | Shadowed: well i stopped raiding now and changed both class, race, faction and server ;P |
| 20:10.39 | malreth | so either you a) remove visual information, b) reduce the need for visual information (practice makes perfect), or c) add information through other sensory channels (aural) |
| 20:10.39 | Shadowed | so did i :p |
| 20:10.47 | thr | but I made sure to get in the same battlegroup as my old server so I can kick them in BGs ;P |
| 20:10.49 | Shadowed | Razor -> nef was done on a Rogue, naxx was done on a Warrior |
| 20:11.33 | Shadowed | voice comm is nice, but in the end not sucking makes up for not having it |
| 20:11.39 | thr | Shadowed: ok, well I did mc/ony on shaman, the rest on a mage/paladin combined up nax. |
| 20:11.44 | malreth | Shadowed: that would be choice b) above |
| 20:12.00 | Adrine | malreth: For me at least, it's as simple as distinct colors for my officers'/class channels |
| 20:12.13 | malreth | reduce the tasks that you must do to secondary tasks... then you can focus on other things |
| 20:12.14 | Adrine | Most "chat" goes on in raid, strategy/help calls/whatever goes out in officers' or class channels. |
| 20:12.25 | malreth | it's like driving a stick-shift... |
| 20:12.28 | Adrine | So if I see bright blue pop up, I know something's happening in the rogue channel. |
| 20:13.03 | thr | meh now you distracted me from my coding again ;< silly IRC! ;P |
| 20:13.07 | malreth | after enough practice, you no longer have to think about shifting... it just happens. you use your left over concentration to focus on other things like that pedestrian or the traffic at the intersection, etc |
| 20:13.11 | Adrine | I dunno. I think it's just something you get used to. |
| 20:13.29 | Adrine | We have extraordinarily few problems handling fights, both ordinary and extraordinary. |
| 20:13.46 | Adrine | I think it's just because we've been raiding forever and a half without it, and have adapted appropriately. |
| 20:14.08 | malreth | both ways are just as valid... with vent or without vent |
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| 20:14.14 | thr | btw any good way to "fade" out/in frames? right now i use a variable on the frame that puts it in fade in/out mode and then just increase/decrease the alpha of it but 0.01 per update. |
| 20:14.26 | thr | or are there any magical ways to do it? |
| 20:14.27 | Adrine | Also, guild consensus is that if we did use Vent for raids, it would consist 95% of our female MT/raid leader yelling "DONGS", as often happens when Vent is used for social purposes :P |
| 20:14.41 | Adrine | thr: Scale the amount by arg1 to OnUpdate |
| 20:14.42 | |Shadow| | thr theres a example in the wow addon toolkit |
| 20:14.43 | JoshBorke | thr: not really |
| 20:14.43 | Adrine | That's the frame time |
| 20:14.44 | malreth | Adrine: well, that's what discipline is for |
| 20:15.08 | Adrine | Dammitall, Casual Male XL, I don't want your stupid emails. |
| 20:15.11 | thr | Adrine: well, that's what I do now but i just dont use arg1 since i want a controlled fade in/out. |
| 20:15.24 | malreth | we chat socially during raids but we're also all adults in our mid-twenties-thirties |
| 20:15.28 | Adrine | Problem is, thr, that'll vary the rate based on your framerate |
| 20:15.33 | Adrine | You probably want a time-based fade, yes? |
| 20:15.36 | JoshBorke | i wish my guild was that way |
| 20:15.41 | thr | Adrine: mm, okey true. |
| 20:15.49 | malreth | so, there's not so much yelling of "PENIS" or stuff like that |
| 20:15.52 | Adrine | We're a mid-20s guild, too. Our MT just has a...playful side :P |
| 20:16.06 | Adrine | thr: use arg1 * (amount to fade per second) |
| 20:16.27 | Adrine | So if you want a 1-second fade, then fade by arg1. If you want a half second fade, then fade by (arg1 * 2), etc. |
| 20:16.27 | JoshBorke | arg1/1000*(amount to fade per second) |
| 20:16.41 | Adrine | Mental shortcut >_> |
| 20:17.05 | thr | but wouldn't that give a rather "twitchy" fade? |
| 20:17.11 | Inside | Allright, back to finishing UNO ~_~ |
| 20:17.14 | Adrine | Not at all - it'll give a smooth fade |
| 20:17.17 | Inside | thr: Not really. |
| 20:17.22 | Adrine | arg1 is the time since the last frame |
| 20:17.22 | thr | hmm ok, i'll try it |
| 20:17.27 | thr | ye that I know |
| 20:17.28 | Inside | It'll be a frame independent fade. |
| 20:17.37 | Adrine | The smoothest fades will be time-based, not frame-based |
| 20:17.38 | thr | ok i'll play around then |
| 20:17.40 | thr | thnx |
| 20:17.41 | Inside | frame rate* |
| 20:18.13 | Inside | if you decrease opacity but 0.01 each update.. sometimes it'll take half a second (if you're facing a wall) or two seconds (if in iroforge) |
| 20:18.18 | Adrine | Because, say I hit IF and my framerate drops to 15 FPS. I'm only fading 0.15 alpha/sec under your solution, so it'll take me 6.66 seconds to do a full fade, compared to outside IF, where I get 70 FPS and it takes only 1.4 sec. |
| 20:18.31 | Inside | >_> |
| 20:19.14 | Adrine | You know, ruby and lua are similar enough to really get me into trouble. |
| 20:19.28 | Inside | Instead of "end" I keep typing "then" asdfasdfasdf RPN languages. |
| 20:19.29 | Adrine | I write ruby code all day at work, then write lua code all night at home. |
| 20:19.51 | JoshBorke | you should just write a lua->ruby converter (or vice-versa) and be done with it |
| 20:20.04 | thr | ok so something like this then |
| 20:20.04 | thr | frame:SetAlpha(frame:GetAlpha()-(last/1000*Molly.FadeAmount)) |
| 20:20.06 | Adrine | I wish I could just write WoW mods in ruby |
| 20:20.10 | Adrine | Because that would be awesomesauce. |
| 20:20.13 | JoshBorke | thr: ew! no! |
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| 20:20.34 | Inside | Yeah, use um... what's it called.. uh... *rolls around* that one converter thingie >_< |
| 20:20.41 | JoshBorke | thr: don't do a frame:GetAlpha() inside an OnUpdate |
| 20:20.58 | Adrine | Just store a local with the current alpha value |
| 20:21.05 | JoshBorke | thr: do frame.alpha = frame.alpha-(last/1000*Molly.FadeAmount) |
| 20:21.13 | JoshBorke | frame:SetAlpha(frame.alpha) |
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| 20:21.19 | thr | ah, smart. |
| 20:21.42 | malreth | well, you'd be surprised how focused even playful people will become when the tires hit the road |
| 20:21.43 | malreth | we'll crack jokes while we buff or clear trash, and then all shut up as the briefing happens, and we know to keep the channel clear during an encounter |
| 20:21.43 | malreth | and everyone's encouraged to voice concerns regarding inappropriate chatter. basically, everyone just behaves |
| 20:21.43 | Adrine | Though you'll need to init frame.alpha |
| 20:21.43 | SP|Sorren | anyone here know about candybars? |
| 20:21.52 | thr | Adrine: ye |
| 20:21.52 | Inside | you snort em >_> |
| 20:21.53 | JoshBorke | hm, if you only are dealing with one frame then it'd be better to do the variable as a local |
| 20:21.59 | JoshBorke | SP|Sorren: try #wowace |
| 20:22.08 | malreth | well, i just spent the last 5 minutes talking to myself |
| 20:22.10 | SP|Sorren | alrite |
| 20:22.34 | JoshBorke | wb malreth |
| 20:22.35 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 20:23.05 | JoshBorke | Adrine: did you see my Borked_Monitor mod? ^_^ |
| 20:23.11 | malreth | oh... my client autoreposted everything i said when i was in disconnect limbo |
| 20:23.14 | Adrine | No, I haven't yet. Link me? |
| 20:23.32 | Inside | borked_monitor? |
| 20:23.44 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5236 |
| 20:24.19 | JoshBorke | yes. it was suggested to me and i liked the stupidity of it :-) |
| 20:24.19 | malreth | did anyone other than me see the line where i said, "everyone just behaves" at the end? |
| 20:24.19 | Inside | That's hawt. |
| 20:24.20 | Inside | o_o |
| 20:24.25 | SB1-Work | Ohhh, new macro changes = hawt |
| 20:24.26 | JoshBorke | malreth: i saw it |
| 20:24.33 | malreth | yeah... i figured |
| 20:24.50 | malreth | hmm... one more reason why I like this program |
| 20:24.50 | Adrine | Whoa, that's pretty cool. |
| 20:26.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:26.53 | krka | thanks Kaso! |
| 20:27.06 | Kaso | no problems |
| 20:27.09 | krka | :) |
| 20:27.16 | JoshBorke | not more keys out! |
| 20:27.30 | krka | i'll probably apply with Waroak soon too, that's my only level 60 |
| 20:27.33 | krka | it just needs to get copied first |
| 20:27.34 | krka | grr |
| 20:27.40 | krka | too slow |
| 20:28.43 | malreth | my gmail indicator remains gray, cold, and alone... won't someone please warm it with a hot, throbbing beta key? |
| 20:29.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge nootzzy (n=aoiut@76.17.125.109) |
| 20:29.53 | Inside | I'll be key! You be my keyhole! |
| 20:29.56 | SP|Sorren | my gmail indicator is getting spammed. :< |
| 20:30.20 | Xorro | my gmail is lonely |
| 20:30.26 | Xorro | and key-less |
| 20:30.42 | SP|Sorren | better than spammed and keyless, imo ;p |
| 20:30.44 | teomyr | guess what... mine too :/ |
| 20:31.31 | thr | does a negative alpha turn the frame visible again? |
| 20:31.49 | nootzzy | hi guys, anyone know the developer of clearfont? |
| 20:32.44 | Kirkburn | Not I, said the developer of ClearFont :) |
| 20:32.44 | nootzzy | got a question for his sweet mod |
| 20:32.44 | nootzzy | lol |
| 20:32.44 | Inside | I think that a negative alpha is clamped to zero |
| 20:32.44 | Inside | >_> |
| 20:32.44 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 20:32.45 | thr | Industrial: hmm |
| 20:32.46 | thr | Inside: hmm, not so sure |
| 20:33.00 | Inside | I'm Inside, god damnit |
| 20:33.00 | Inside | >_< |
| 20:33.00 | thr | because if the alpha turns to zero it gets visible again |
| 20:33.00 | Inside | Hmmm |
| 20:33.05 | thr | but if i do: if(frame.Alpha < 0) then frame.Alpha = 0 end |
| 20:33.06 | JoshBorke | thr: don't set it below 0 |
| 20:33.06 | thr | everything works |
| 20:33.14 | Inside | Well, as far as I know, alpha is clamped between [0,1] |
| 20:33.21 | JoshBorke | it's not |
| 20:33.27 | Inside | Not in WoW, but in like... other implementations |
| 20:33.27 | Inside | >_> |
| 20:33.28 | thr | JoshBorke: what happens if i turn it under 0 ? |
| 20:33.36 | JoshBorke | dunno, but why would you want to? |
| 20:33.37 | Kirkburn | nootzzy, how may I help? |
| 20:33.37 | Kaso | it goes into another dimentio |
| 20:33.51 | JoshBorke | Cairenn: wb |
| 20:33.52 | nootzzy | oh, first off, thx for the great mod, things r so much easier o the eyes |
| 20:33.55 | thr | JoshBorke: hehe well it seems to turn visible again . you said "dont set it below 0" so i thought maybe u knew what happend |
| 20:33.58 | nootzzy | *on |
| 20:34.07 | Kirkburn | Thanks =) |
| 20:34.15 | Adrine | It might be setting it to math.abs(value), clamped to 0..1 |
| 20:34.19 | Adrine | *shrug* |
| 20:34.21 | JoshBorke | purl grab Cairenn |
| 20:34.22 | Xorro | aww, crap. Where did Cairenn go? |
| 20:34.37 | nootzzy | i was wondering, however, if there's any way to not change the chatwindow font from the current settings, or to have it set as something diffrent? |
| 20:35.11 | Xorro | found you! |
| 20:35.16 | ckknight | ~2d6 |
| 20:35.17 | purl | You roll a 5 |
| 20:35.20 | ckknight | sorry, JoshBorke |
| 20:35.28 | ckknight | you didn't get the saving throw |
| 20:35.38 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 20:35.44 | Kirkburn | As a different font? It might be possible |
| 20:35.50 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 20:35.56 | JoshBorke | ~tryme |
| 20:35.57 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at joshborke and fires. Click. |
| 20:36.20 | Kirkburn | nootzzy, the ChatFontNormal line may control it |
| 20:36.57 | nootzzy | k, I'll try it out now |
| 20:38.50 | Industrial | K K K K E Y |
| 20:38.53 | Industrial | :| |
| 20:38.59 | Kirkburn | ( Chat font size is controlled by the in-game chat settings) |
| 20:39.06 | Kirkburn | Industrial, is that a yay?! |
| 20:39.12 | Industrial | no |
| 20:39.24 | Industrial | Shadowed: fyi |
| 20:39.30 | Industrial | I have played 50+ webgames |
| 20:39.43 | Industrial | played wow until the realms came down |
| 20:39.44 | Industrial | ate |
| 20:39.44 | Shadowed | or, sleeping pills in Industrial case |
| 20:39.47 | Industrial | listened to music |
| 20:39.52 | Industrial | read 3 chapterfs of a book |
| 20:39.52 | Industrial | etc |
| 20:39.58 | Shadowed | Industrial you can farm herbs for me |
| 20:40.10 | Inside | Okay, lua question -- I can't do ipairs on a well.. a table that doesn't have numerical keys? |
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| 20:41.30 | ckknight | no, Inside |
| 20:41.30 | Kaso | not if you expect it to work |
| 20:41.34 | ckknight | that would make no sense. |
| 20:41.45 | Inside | I suppose I have to use table.foreach then >_> |
| 20:41.50 | Inside | or use next.. eh |
| 20:41.50 | ckknight | no you don't |
| 20:41.53 | ckknight | use pairs |
| 20:42.11 | ckknight | did you even read the manual/pil? |
| 20:42.16 | Inside | It's been a long long while |
| 20:42.17 | Inside | <3 |
| 20:42.36 | Inside | + memory retention of a gold fish = ooph |
| 20:42.51 | ckknight | that's a myth. gold fish have decent memory. |
| 20:42.54 | cogwheel | you shouldn't use table.foreach at all. It's been deprecated for a long time. |
| 20:43.45 | Inside | ckknight: Really? I thought they had a memory span of like 30 seconds c_c.. cogwheel: Weird, I never knew that, I've read through the manual completely quite a few times and I don't recall seeing that. |
| 20:43.55 | Shadowed | somebody needs to watch MythBusters |
| 20:44.02 | Inside | I don't have cable :< |
| 20:44.24 | nootzzy | kirkburn, jus tried commenting out the if (CanSetFont(ChatFontNormal)) then ChatFontNormal:SetFont(CLEAR_FONT, 14 * CF_SCALE); end |
| 20:44.26 | Inside | I see, it's in 5.1 that table.foreach is deprecated |
| 20:44.26 | Shadowed | somebody needs to google! |
| 20:44.38 | nootzzy | but it didn't work |
| 20:45.31 | cogwheel | Inside: PIL (programming in lua) is a better beginning guide for Lua. The manual tells you everything the language is capable of, but PIL teaches you what you "should" be doing... |
| 20:45.44 | Inside | Yeah, I've read that too :P |
| 20:45.49 | Inside | The first edition, at least. |
| 20:46.47 | ckknight | Inside, they have long-term memory. |
| 20:47.03 | ckknight | reason the myth came up is because people felt bad about them just being in a bowl. |
| 20:47.59 | Kirkburn | nootzzy, I think the chat frames are a kind of special case - I've never really tried doing anything with them :/ |
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| 20:48.25 | Kirkburn | nootzzy, what exactly are you wanting to do? |
| 20:48.34 | nootzzy | ah ic, that's kool |
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| 20:49.31 | nootzzy | oh, i would like just like the mod to not change the chat window fonts |
| 20:49.49 | nootzzy | that's all ^^ |
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| 20:50.33 | Kirkburn | You want the normal WoW font there? |
| 20:51.25 | nootzzy | yeah, cuz when I change the font size for Perspective Sans, it's too fuzzy at size 10 |
| 20:51.40 | nootzzy | but I can read the normal one |
| 20:51.52 | Kirkburn | Ah, you'll have to remove the Fonts folder from the main WoW folder |
| 20:52.01 | Kirkburn | That should do it |
| 20:52.24 | Kirkburn | (along with commenting out that line) |
| 20:52.27 | nootzzy | @.@ crap, all this time I was reading ur well documented .lua, I figured it had something to do with that lol |
| 20:52.28 | Cairenn | need to reboot, brb |
| 20:52.42 | Kirkburn | It's not something I really thought about |
| 20:52.50 | nootzzy | k, lemme try it out |
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| 20:56.47 | nootzzy | gah, still no go |
| 20:56.56 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 20:57.16 | nootzzy | hehe, it's ok no big deal really |
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| 20:57.18 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 20:57.23 | nootzzy | I think I'll get used to it^^ |
| 20:57.34 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 20:57.41 | nootzzy | but everything else is perfect, thx a lot man |
| 20:58.51 | Xorro | hey Cairenn, did you weed through the entries for mods which don't really do anything? |
| 20:59.08 | Cairenn | to some degree, yes |
| 20:59.24 | Shadowed | So how many of the entries didn't really do anything? :p |
| 20:59.24 | zespri_work | Xorro, did you submit a mod that didn't do anything? =) |
| 20:59.26 | SB1-Work | malreth, ask Cairenn.. she'll verify for you, like she did me |
| 20:59.29 | Xorro | no, my mod does stuff |
| 20:59.34 | SB1-Work | Note that I still don't have a key.. :P |
| 20:59.36 | Xorro | just not incredibly useful to some people |
| 20:59.58 | Xorro | my mod plays "You Got Mail" whenever you have mail waiting. |
| 21:00.39 | malreth | can't watch a movie... i'm at work, watching the labs. do. nothing. |
| 21:00.39 | Xorro | and I've got some other mods which have not yet been uploaded yet because I'm lazy |
| 21:00.39 | SB1-Work | Shadowed, note my nick ;) |
| 21:00.39 | malreth | i'm out of projects to do... so i'm in fireman mode |
| 21:00.39 | Inside | malreth: You're at a lab, make met! |
| 21:00.41 | Inside | meth! |
| 21:00.43 | Xorro | doo, doo, doooo doooo katamari damaciiiiii |
| 21:00.54 | Xorro | that song is gonna be stuck in my head for the rest of the day, thanks a lot. |
| 21:01.14 | zespri_work | Cairren, the begginig of that clip about toilet yesterday... I didn't catch what was that about talking to a man about a horse and dropping off kids at the pool? is it some kind of cultural reference? or what was that about? |
| 21:01.40 | malreth | zespri: no one knows what you're talking about! |
| 21:01.47 | Cairenn | why ask me? I'm female. I sure as heck don't use references like that |
| 21:01.56 | Inside | Girls, on my internet? Lies. |
| 21:02.01 | zespri_work | Cairenn does |
| 21:02.18 | AnduinLothar | zomg a zespri! |
| 21:02.26 | Shadowed | rare spawn, kill it |
| 21:02.31 | zespri_work | wha? |
| 21:02.36 | AnduinLothar | hi! |
| 21:02.56 | zespri_work | hello, how are you? |
| 21:03.07 | Thunder_Child | he is disturbed |
| 21:03.10 | AnduinLothar | good good. |
| 21:03.16 | AnduinLothar | hungry |
| 21:03.21 | Xorro | okay, screw this, i'm going to watch Braveheart, and I hope to God my key is in the mail when I get back. |
| 21:03.28 | AnduinLothar | and it's 86 degrees in november! |
| 21:03.29 | malreth | darn... this one ALSO doesn't have a liver... i'll never collect enough for westfall stew |
| 21:03.34 | Inside | I guess I'm not getting a key since I never had a mod on wowinterface |
| 21:03.35 | Inside | D: |
| 21:03.38 | Inside | Oh well |
| 21:03.51 | Inside | Writing this mini mod inspired me to go get my other game finished. |
| 21:04.03 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2951.0 <-- should be interesting to people who find MetaMap/AlphaMap too heavy |
| 21:04.03 | teomyr | malreth: i always wonder how these beasts are supposed to survive |
| 21:04.05 | Inside | And also how to make the lua api in my game work >_o |
| 21:04.26 | teomyr | malreth: without their livers, hearts, brains... |
| 21:04.41 | AnduinLothar | if it has ace in it it's meant for non-heaviness, isn't it? |
| 21:04.41 | Thunder_Child | nice ckknight |
| 21:04.47 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 21:04.53 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, I did a lot of optimizations. |
| 21:05.00 | AnduinLothar | uh huh |
| 21:05.11 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.13 | ckknight | step one: don't be an ass |
| 21:05.35 | Thunder_Child | mmm...link says "go to hell" |
| 21:05.40 | Thunder_Child | or there abouts |
| 21:05.40 | ckknight | example, for the MapUnhider, I save data in an integer instead of a string. |
| 21:05.48 | malreth | two, rather |
| 21:05.50 | ckknight | a really heavy string, too |
| 21:06.01 | ckknight | that's really the only step I have. |
| 21:06.07 | ckknight | at least for AL |
| 21:06.15 | Thunder_Child | ckknight...link doesnt work |
| 21:06.29 | thr | Hmm, what's the math to fade between to differnt colors? |
| 21:06.30 | ckknight | sorry |
| 21:06.31 | ckknight | lemme fix. |
| 21:06.34 | AnduinLothar | might worry about the log in your eye first |
| 21:06.37 | malreth | link worked for me... |
| 21:06.49 | Adrine | Cairenn, I'm so sorry to pester as so many others did, but did I pass the bar with Sanity? It's a real mod, and I wrote it and stuff! And I'm paranoid and stuff. :) |
| 21:07.06 | Cairenn | has it been approved? if yes, then there's your answer |
| 21:07.16 | thr | say I wanna fade from r="1.0" g="0.2" and b="0.2" to r="0.2", g="1.0", b="0.2" ? well, I know the math to just do it between those to. But if I need to be able to change the colors? What's the math for that ;( |
| 21:07.33 | Adrine | Well, I meant "Did I go onto the key list" and such :) |
| 21:07.35 | Thunder_Child | malreth, the second link, not the first one |
| 21:07.46 | Thunder_Child | the one for svn |
| 21:08.04 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, how are you not an ass in this situation? |
| 21:08.08 | Adrine | thr: What do you mean? |
| 21:08.09 | malreth | oh... the link on the page itself |
| 21:08.11 | AnduinLothar | thr, go find a lib called ColorCycle |
| 21:08.23 | Thunder_Child | yea, hmm..maybe i should have been more clear.. |
| 21:08.24 | Adrine | Oh, that works too. And is probably easier than what I was going to suggest. |
| 21:08.35 | ckknight | link fixed. |
| 21:08.36 | AnduinLothar | i didn't say i wasn't |
| 21:08.42 | ckknight | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Cartographer/ |
| 21:08.51 | AnduinLothar | but it's easy to spot the flaws you posess |
| 21:08.52 | Thunder_Child | ty ckknight |
| 21:08.54 | thr | Adrine: well i'm trying to find the math on how to fade between to r/g/b colors. |
| 21:08.58 | thr | based on a percentage. |
| 21:09.10 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, flaws in my code? |
| 21:09.18 | thr | hmm i got it i th ink |
| 21:09.22 | Adrine | Protip: You probably want to fade through an intermediary color, but look for the lib than AnduinLothar references. |
| 21:09.28 | AnduinLothar | ... no. it's a smart ass way of saying you're an ass too. |
| 21:09.31 | Adrine | s/references/referenced/ |
| 21:09.51 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, yea, but my code is better |
| 21:10.01 | ckknight | whatever, I don't want to argue. |
| 21:10.05 | Adrine | Fading red -> green, for example, gives you a nasty brown color in the middle where you probably want yellow :) |
| 21:10.22 | malreth | thr: basically, you multiply each color component by a weight and then add them together |
| 21:10.22 | ckknight | and I don't like it when you poke fun at my code |
| 21:10.33 | ckknight | especially when you don't back up your claims |
| 21:11.30 | Industrial | ckknight: you sux |
| 21:11.53 | Inside | c_c |
| 21:12.06 | Thunder_Child | no crying on the channel |
| 21:12.30 | SB1-Work | BAH, more SPAM |
| 21:12.30 | Kaso | Cide around? |
| 21:12.35 | Cide | yes |
| 21:12.37 | Industrial | net, even |
| 21:13.00 | Kaso | the ct_shieldmod youve got uploaded to wowi is still on a <20000 toc |
| 21:13.16 | Industrial | Cairenn: Think theres something wrong? 10PM no mail |
| 21:13.18 | Cide | it wasn't supposed to be in the pack, heh |
| 21:13.23 | Kaso | ah |
| 21:13.40 | Cairenn | Industrial: I'm not blizz, they'll send out the keys when they send out the keys |
| 21:13.53 | Industrial | but everybody already got them :| |
| 21:14.01 | Cairenn | no, not everyone already got them |
| 21:14.04 | Shadowed | Industrial: it's only 1 PM :p |
| 21:14.05 | zespri_work | poor Cairenn =) |
| 21:14.26 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.30 | nevcairiel | i got my key, poor indy |
| 21:14.48 | Shadowed | run nevcairiel |
| 21:15.30 | zespri_work | I've downloaded 2% of the beta and I still don't have the key! =) |
| 21:15.49 | SB1-Work | zespri_work, I have a fully-patched copy of the beta and no key. :( |
| 21:16.01 | AnduinLothar | when did i poke fun at his code.. |
| 21:16.06 | zespri_work | I'm going to complain to UNO p) |
| 21:16.43 | zespri_work | you guys antogonizing each other on regular basis, everybody already got used to it =) |
| 21:16.59 | zespri_work | poking or no poking |
| 21:17.09 | AnduinLothar | i don't mind if he calls me an ass, i wont deny it |
| 21:17.18 | AnduinLothar | but insulting my code is low |
| 21:17.52 | AnduinLothar | especially wehn we have entirely different reasons and motivations and goals when we code |
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| 21:18.31 | Industrial | I'm eager to hear about your motivation AnduinLothar, if your code makes ckknight judge it like that |
| 21:18.33 | AnduinLothar | we'd probably make a good code review team if we didn't hate each other |
| 21:18.44 | zespri_work | how different goals can be? Not in the case of you two, but in general, when coding addons for wow? |
| 21:18.53 | malreth | thr: http://wowi.pastey.net/2222 |
| 21:18.55 | Inside | COmplain to UNO? |
| 21:18.56 | Inside | nooooooooooo~ |
| 21:18.58 | Cairenn | and *I* will remind *everyone* that .personal. attacks are not allowed in this channel |
| 21:18.58 | zespri_work | Why ppl do this? I guess because it's fun, isn't it? |
| 21:19.04 | malreth | if you choose to roll your own |
| 21:19.09 | Shadowed | Cairenn eats babies |
| 21:19.17 | Industrial | Inside: whats uno? |
| 21:19.17 | Inside | Babies eat Cairenn oh shi- |
| 21:19.20 | Inside | Uno |
| 21:19.25 | Industrial | Shadowed: you higlighted me yesterday about uno |
| 21:19.28 | Inside | Oh my god. You poor poor deprived child. Get on Aggram and we can play uno. |
| 21:19.34 | Inside | Aggrammar. |
| 21:19.35 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:19.39 | AnduinLothar | well like purposes. He codes to have everything be as efficient and optimized as possible. where as i much prefer being able to read the code |
| 21:19.39 | Thunder_Child | someone who does not know uno?? |
| 21:19.41 | Inside | You have not lived till you've played UNO!!11 |
| 21:19.45 | Industrial | link me |
| 21:19.58 | Inside | en.wikipedia.org/uno |
| 21:20.01 | Inside | ~wiki uno |
| 21:20.06 | Inside | ~wikipedia uno |
| 21:20.09 | Thunder_Child | Industrial is an alien |
| 21:20.09 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.12 | Inside | Oh, here we go. |
| 21:20.36 | Industrial | its a card game.. |
| 21:20.40 | Inside | Yes. |
| 21:20.40 | AnduinLothar | and I like comign up with new ideas that haven't been done before, rather than rewritting something to be smaller or more customized. |
| 21:20.44 | Inside | _THE_ card game. |
| 21:22.01 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, how is my code unreadable? |
| 21:22.17 | AnduinLothar | did I specificly say it was unreadable? |
| 21:22.26 | ckknight | <AnduinLothar> well like purposes. He codes to have everything be as efficient and optimized as possible. where as i much prefer being able to read the code |
| 21:22.33 | Kirkburn | Warburn: you name has been found to be in violation of the naming rules |
| 21:22.35 | AnduinLothar | yeah, we hall that aluding to |
| 21:22.37 | Kirkburn | Riiiight |
| 21:22.39 | ckknight | you alluded to it |
| 21:22.52 | ckknight | Kirkburn, what rules? |
| 21:23.09 | Kirkburn | I seriously have no idea what's going on, I haven't even logged that char in! |
| 21:23.14 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:23.15 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 21:23.23 | AnduinLothar | you always have to change your char name |
| 21:23.26 | AnduinLothar | for beta |
| 21:23.28 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: they do that to everyone |
| 21:23.31 | Kirkburn | Aah |
| 21:23.36 | Kirkburn | Can I choose the same? |
| 21:23.38 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 21:23.45 | Cairenn | nope, you'll have to modify it |
| 21:23.47 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 21:23.50 | Kirkburn | *sniff* |
| 21:23.52 | Inside | http://rafb.net/paste/results/OQ99NK35.html if you want to try out UNO >_> |
| 21:24.03 | Kirkburn | Hey, why not .... zomg ... Kirkburn! |
| 21:24.10 | Cairenn | *boggle* |
| 21:24.19 | ckknight | Kirkburn, change it to Kirkburn? |
| 21:24.31 | Kirkburn | Crazy talk :P |
| 21:24.32 | Shadowed | why don't they let you choose the same one? |
| 21:24.46 | ckknight | Shadowed, pigeonholing |
| 21:24.51 | SB1-Work | Kirkburn, give me your other key? :( |
| 21:25.40 | axxo | zomek! |
| 21:25.43 | axxo | uno is a great game |
| 21:25.54 | Kirkburn | What other key, I have no other key, you'll have to ask my housemate, what housemate? I have no housemate? |
| 21:25.59 | Kaso | |
| 21:25.59 | Kaso | AnduinLothar |
| 21:26.03 | Inside | asdf |
| 21:26.10 | Inside | booted from server for spamming.. damnit. |
| 21:26.14 | SB1-Work | lol |
| 21:26.17 | SB1-Work | It was worth a try! |
| 21:26.21 | Kaso | i love you for your updateLua script :> |
| 21:26.25 | Kirkburn | hehe |
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| 21:26.27 | AnduinLothar | you're welcome |
| 21:26.43 | AnduinLothar | don't let ck see it, the code is sloppy |
| 21:27.03 | ckknight | down with sloppy code |
| 21:27.14 | AnduinLothar | down with productivity |
| 21:27.27 | Industrial | indeed, cause its not a job |
| 21:27.29 | SB1-Work | ... that's a huge can of worms right there |
| 21:28.28 | AnduinLothar | it's a simple script that'll be in use for a few months and then retire. it didn't deserve more than the few minutes it took to code |
| 21:29.37 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: I dont take DCC's |
| 21:30.11 | JoshBorke | ah, ok, so i caught up |
| 21:30.24 | Industrial | JoshBorke: ? |
| 21:30.50 | JoshBorke | stepped away, wanted to read all the arguing |
| 21:31.00 | Kaso | i just went to copy over SlashRL addon to beta, it's toc is 1300, i think thats the oldest addon im using |
| 21:31.27 | SB1-Work | Industrial, they're using MS's SMTP servers |
| 21:31.28 | Adrine | Industrial: 1 email per connection? A long while :) |
| 21:31.34 | Adrine | But hopefully they're batchin...ah. |
| 21:31.36 | SB1-Work | s/servers/service/ |
| 21:31.44 | SB1-Work | A _very long time_ |
| 21:31.53 | Adrine | Probably crashed halfway through. |
| 21:31.57 | Adrine | Right before it got to mine. |
| 21:31.58 | Adrine | :) |
| 21:32.04 | SB1-Work | Read: MS-SMTP |
| 21:32.07 | SB1-Work | *not* Exchange |
| 21:32.47 | Adrine | Poor Cairenn :) |
| 21:33.12 | *** join/#wowi-lounge kaiden (n=kaiden@c-67-160-117-239.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:33.22 | kaiden | So anyone received their e-mails yet today? |
| 21:33.39 | Kaso | AL: apparently your script doesnt catch for key,val in {"this","is","a","table"} do |
| 21:33.49 | Kaso | kaiden alot of people got keys today |
| 21:34.01 | JoshBorke | well now, who would do that kaso? |
| 21:34.13 | Kaso | the guy who wrote enginventory of course! |
| 21:34.32 | kaiden | hrmph, didn't get an e-mail wonder if i was declined |
| 21:34.40 | AnduinLothar | kaso: it should |
| 21:34.40 | Industrial | im still waiting |
| 21:34.44 | JoshBorke | thr: do you still need code to transition colors? |
| 21:34.49 | AnduinLothar | it'd just wrap it with pairs() |
| 21:34.58 | Shadowed | I don't think you can get declined :p |
| 21:35.04 | Kaso | hmm, it didnt, not a huge problem, odd though |
| 21:35.13 | AnduinLothar | unless the table has a " do" in it.. |
| 21:36.17 | Kaso | for key,value in { "HeadSlot",<anti-spam snip>,"RangedSlot" } do |
| 21:36.54 | Inside | enginventory? |
| 21:37.01 | Industrial | script, handle/ |
| 21:37.10 | AnduinLothar | text2 = string.gsub(text1, "for (.-) in [ ]-(.-)[ ]- do", "for %1 in pairs(%2) do", 1) |
| 21:37.33 | AnduinLothar | should catch that |
| 21:38.07 | Kaso | hmm, lemme run it over it again |
| 21:39.35 | Kaso | nope didnt catch it. |
| 21:41.13 | nootzzy | kirkburn, finally! I got it lol... |
| 21:42.06 | ckknight | AnduinLothar, why [ ]-? |
| 21:42.09 | ckknight | why not %s-? |
| 21:42.16 | ckknight | or just " -"? |
| 21:42.34 | AnduinLothar | cause that's what i pulled out of my ass when i wrote it |
| 21:42.49 | teomyr | :D |
| 21:42.58 | ckknight | also, that catches ligitimate for loops, so you'll turn `for k in pairs(t) do` into for k in pairs(pairs(t)) do` |
| 21:43.00 | AnduinLothar | %s- is prolly better, but i dunno why you would use tabs |
| 21:43.11 | AnduinLothar | no, it's caught later |
| 21:43.12 | ckknight | %s covers newlines and other such |
| 21:43.34 | AnduinLothar | pairs(pairs( is removed int he following line |
| 21:43.46 | ckknight | that is icky. |
| 21:43.52 | AnduinLothar | i told you |
| 21:43.57 | AnduinLothar | actually it's not removed |
| 21:44.00 | MentalPower | its not meant to be pretty, its meant to work |
| 21:44.17 | AnduinLothar | it jsut flags a boolean to not use the replacement |
| 21:44.30 | ckknight | what you want is "for (.-) in%s+([^%)%s]-)%s+do" => "for %1 in pairs(%2) do" |
| 21:44.42 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Esamynn (n=chatzill@207.6.94.35) |
| 21:44.46 | AnduinLothar | probably |
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| 21:45.08 | AnduinLothar | but that still doesn't solve kaso's issue |
| 21:45.38 | Kaso | i wouldnt call it an issue :> ived fixed it manually |
| 21:45.54 | AnduinLothar | did it ignore the line completely? |
| 21:46.01 | Kaso | yes |
| 21:46.19 | AnduinLothar | was it using tabs instead of spaces? |
| 21:46.40 | Kaso | i belive so |
| 21:46.58 | AnduinLothar | i mean as the sepperaters |
| 21:47.14 | AnduinLothar | not indents |
| 21:48.06 | AnduinLothar | cause i just ran it through that statement command line and it works |
| 21:48.11 | Kaso | http://kasoo.net/filez/engbank.lua |
| 21:48.17 | Kaso | line 778 |
| 21:48.52 | nootzzy | kirkburn, if u're there here's what I did: your initial pointer to the ChatFontNormal line was right. I just added another local variable that pointed to an Arial Narrow.ttf I downloaded and changed the parameter. |
| 21:49.28 | AnduinLothar | ahh |
| 21:49.38 | AnduinLothar | it's a multiline. that's why it breaks |
| 21:49.58 | AnduinLothar | yeah. my regex doesn't allow line breaks. i'll look at ck's |
| 21:50.12 | AnduinLothar | actually |
| 21:50.21 | AnduinLothar | i'd have to rewrite it all |
| 21:50.29 | AnduinLothar | cause atm it onyl does line by line |
| 21:50.47 | AnduinLothar | for line in file:lines() do |
| 21:51.46 | AnduinLothar | but honestly, it's poorly coded to beginwith imo |
| 21:52.23 | AnduinLothar | if you're gonna be looping the same table multiple times you should abstract it to save on memory churn |
| 21:52.49 | AnduinLothar | at least for wow anyway |
| 22:01.37 | Kirkburn | nootzzy, that makes sense :) |
| 22:01.49 | Kirkburn | Nice work |
| 22:03.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | from what i've heard, beta invites aren't being flagged as spam on gmail |
| 22:05.10 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower_ (n=chatzill@66-50-60-65.prtc.net) |
| 22:07.11 | Grine | no they aint |
| 22:08.57 | Beladona | bbl, going home |
| 22:09.04 | Inside | Hmmmm. |
| 22:09.25 | Inside | organize functions by alphabetical order.. or just let them clog the screen |
| 22:09.25 | Inside | XD |
| 22:10.34 | *** join/#wowi-lounge mjgoossen (n=mjgoosse@74.92.248.14) |
| 22:10.40 | mjgoossen | Hello. |
| 22:10.44 | Inside | Hi. |
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| 22:11.12 | mjgoossen | How is ≠ (unequal to) coded in lua? |
| 22:11.29 | Kirkburn | != iirc? |
| 22:11.42 | Esamynn | ~= |
| 22:11.51 | zespri_work | ~= maybe |
| 22:11.53 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:11.54 | nevcairiel | ~= it is |
| 22:12.07 | Adrine | Man, I'm not even getting spam in my gmail inbox. |
| 22:12.10 | Inside | fail desu |
| 22:12.14 | Adrine | I just want bold (1)'s right now! |
| 22:12.14 | mjgoossen | Thanks. |
| 22:12.15 | Kirkburn | <-- loserrrrr |
| 22:12.19 | Inside | I have 800 spam messages in my inbox '_' |
| 22:12.37 | zespri_work | yeah, lately I get decreased amount of spam in gmail |
| 22:12.51 | zespri_work | does this mean that they now kill legitemate mails with beta keys? |
| 22:13.14 | Xorro | Blizzard actually disguises beta invites as male enhancement pills |
| 22:13.20 | Adrine | I was just about to ask that |
| 22:13.21 | Xorro | good luck digging through all those spam messages |
| 22:13.49 | Adrine | I was thinking "I'll bet Blizzard is sending out beta keys with a subject of 'enlarge y0ur p3n1s now!'" |
| 22:13.54 | Shadowed | The fact that you're checking your email every minute may have to do with the decrease in spam :p |
| 22:14.05 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:14.08 | Tuller | haha |
| 22:14.41 | Adrine | The funny part is that they wouldn't be lying, either, since being in the beta would make my e-wang larger! |
| 22:15.20 | Shadowed | until you realise that about 500 other people got the key the same way! |
| 22:16.02 | Kirkburn | Argh, I forgot to respec |
| 22:17.02 | Cairenn | batch #4 of names just went |
| 22:18.19 | Xorro | so Cairenn, are these keys sent out 5 days after the names are sent in? Or will the invites always be done on Tuesdays? |
| 22:18.49 | Cairenn | *to my knowledge* the keys get sent on Tuesdays, although I know a few at least got them as early as last night |
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| 22:20.08 | Xorro | so batches 4 - x will be given their invites next week? |
| 22:20.24 | Cairenn | *shrug* |
| 22:20.25 | Inside | allright |
| 22:20.33 | Inside | Let's submit my uno bot :p |
| 22:20.55 | Kirkburn | Yay Felguard! |
| 22:20.55 | Cairenn | it's only 2:20 out west, so it *may* be possible that the batch I just sent in could get them tonight, but more likely next week |
| 22:21.45 | Xorro|Movie | cool. Thanks for the info |
| 22:21.51 | Xorro|Movie | and thanks so much for this opportunity |
| 22:22.09 | Xorro|Movie | I'd hate it if my mods weren't 2.0 compliant. |
| 22:22.35 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 22:23.02 | mjgoossen | If you are willing to help me with some code, I have not coded lua before: http://pastey.net/2223 |
| 22:24.19 | mjgoossen | What is not working is: 1) The item is not being placed in the COD slot 2) The recipient is not being filled in. |
| 22:24.39 | Vallerius_work | Shadowed: I've never been as annoyed by spam as I have been today... /cry |
| 22:25.32 | Werik`Curse | I can't live without spam |
| 22:25.38 | mjgoossen | If you look at line 21, I think the prevents mail from sending if there is no recipient or item attached, right? |
| 22:25.43 | Werik`Curse | They are organic part of my life |
| 22:25.51 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mike (n=mjgoosse@74.92.248.14) |
| 22:25.59 | Mike | Hello. |
| 22:26.22 | mjgoossen | I seem to be 2 people here... hello self, Mike. |
| 22:26.32 | JoshBork1 | hello |
| 22:27.00 | Adrine | Mike, you're still not terminating your if blocks in the right places |
| 22:27.26 | Adrine | It's not like C where you can have single-line implicitly-terminated "if" statements |
| 22:27.44 | Mike | OK |
| 22:27.50 | *** part/#wowi-lounge mjgoossen (n=mjgoosse@74.92.248.14) |
| 22:28.52 | Cairenn | 450 authors at this point ... nice |
| 22:29.12 | Adrine | http://pastey.net/2224-1a7g is the proper indenting for the code you pasted up there - that might clarify why it's working as it is |
| 22:29.31 | Adrine | Cairenn: 450 authors for what? The key program? |
| 22:29.37 | Cairenn | yup |
| 22:29.42 | Adrine | Wow, very nice. |
| 22:30.00 | Mike | Thanks. |
| 22:30.59 | Mike | The sending of the mail fails. |
| 22:32.09 | Mike | OK |
| 22:32.56 | Werik`Curse | what's the difference between the two versions btw? |
| 22:32.57 | Adrine | Where's it failing? Like 22? |
| 22:33.08 | Adrine | Line* |
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| 22:34.46 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 22:35.15 | JoshBork1 | quick! hide! |
| 22:36.44 | zespri_work | reboot |
| 22:38.31 | Adrine | I look far less like a construction paper cutout than South Park would have you believe! |
| 22:39.36 | Shadowed | Vallerius_work: haha |
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| 22:43.21 | Cairenn | another EU just got a key, over in Ace channel |
| 22:43.32 | SB1-Work | And I still don't have mine :( |
| 22:43.35 | Cide | damn europeans.. oh wait |
| 22:43.42 | Cairenn | lol Cide |
| 22:43.48 | nevcairiel | iam EU and have my key as well already :) |
| 22:44.13 | Guillotine | make sure to check your spam folder. it seems to go in there alot |
| 22:44.30 | Silviu- | In yahoo i got in inbox, not bulk |
| 22:44.31 | Silviu- | :) |
| 22:49.25 | Mery | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1251722&sid=1 - wow |
| 22:50.57 | cladhaire | lol |
| 22:50.59 | cladhaire | haha |
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| 22:55.13 | Inside | hmm |
| 22:55.18 | Mike | How do I print to the default chat frame what value ClickSendMailItemButton() is? |
| 22:55.26 | Mike | I have tried DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(ClickSendMailItemButton()) |
| 22:55.34 | Inside | now here comes the critical part of the whole uh.. "calling uno" in the uno game >_> |
| 22:55.35 | Inside | hmm |
| 22:55.40 | Adrine | Well, that's a function |
| 22:55.47 | Adrine | If it doesn't have a return value, then nothing will print |
| 22:55.59 | Mike | Or see if it is true or false? |
| 22:56.34 | Mike | Because I am trying to trouble shoot why my code is not working. |
| 22:56.43 | Adrine | Well, if it doesn't return anything, the result will just be nil which evaluates to false |
| 22:56.43 | JoshBork1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.52 | JoshBork1 | or tostring(value) |
| 22:57.24 | Tain | But that won't work on the function. |
| 22:57.28 | Tain | Or it won't give you what you want. |
| 22:58.08 | Mike | That is just debugging info, I am trying to debug my code. |
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| 23:00.02 | Mike | Each time I try to run my code it costs 30 copper... |
| 23:00.28 | Adrine | Well, you're sending mails then, I'd say |
| 23:01.05 | Mike | What I am trying to get now is the variable recipient to go to SendMail) |
| 23:01.09 | Mike | SendMail()* |
| 23:01.10 | Adrine | Your code is saying "If the recipient is nil, then send the mail", which doesn't seem right. |
| 23:01.32 | Adrine | Maybe you mean "if recipient then SendMail() end" ? |
| 23:01.35 | Mike | Oh, I need ~= |
| 23:02.03 | Mike | I have if ((ClickSendMailItemButton() ~= nil) or (recipient == nil)) then |
| 23:02.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9311/betacontestmapsn9.gif anyone have any clue what zone this is? :O it looks like hinterlands to me but i'm not sure |
| 23:02.22 | Mike | That line is to prevent sending mail that does not have items in it. |
| 23:02.52 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: reminds me of just south of Chillwind camp |
| 23:03.00 | zenzelezz | that alliance post in WPL |
| 23:03.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, i'm gonna check em both out |
| 23:03.12 | Shadowed | Mr_Rabies what zenzelezz said |
| 23:03.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think it's one or the other, definitely |
| 23:04.48 | Adrine | You can just say "if ClickSendMailItemButton() or recipient" |
| 23:04.56 | Adrine | That just tests to see if it's not nil/false |
| 23:04.57 | Adrine | Though |
| 23:05.08 | Mike | Isn't that the same thing as if ((ClickSendMailItemButton() ~= nil) or (recipient == nil)) then |
| 23:05.17 | Adrine | Yes, it's just shorter and more concise. |
| 23:05.18 | Adrine | I think that ClickSendMailItemButton() doesn't have a return value, so it will always be nil, so that will always fail |
| 23:06.31 | Mike | OK, I just had that so I might save some money... |
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| 23:07.08 | Mery | " I got an Ardent Custodian once. After attempting to sell it for three or four days I was looking to see if any more were up for sale, and in my infinite wisdom, bid on another one." - Drysc http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44776149&pageNo=3&sid=1#48 |
| 23:07.20 | Shadowed | haha |
| 23:07.24 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 23:07.49 | SB1-Work | Still no key! |
| 23:07.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually sell other people's stuff for them if i accidentally bid on something |
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| 23:09.35 | zenzelezz | I see a lot of price scams on my server these days |
| 23:09.42 | zenzelezz | 1 Elemental Fire for 75g and stuff |
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| 23:10.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | so is opherah windfury still a shaman trainer's name for the draenei? |
| 23:10.39 | Mike | WHOOT, I DID IT! |
| 23:11.07 | Mike | http://pastey.net/2225 |
| 23:11.54 | Mike | Now I just need to put in the other itemtypes |
| 23:13.08 | Mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'm officially in like 6 different beta contests |
| 23:13.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | hopefully i'll get a key |
| 23:13.33 | Mike | LOL |
| 23:13.49 | JoshBork1 | Mike: no you dhon't |
| 23:13.52 | Cide | Mike: no, one "end" after your whole if statement is fine |
| 23:14.07 | Mike | What is wrong, JoshBork1? |
| 23:14.23 | JoshBork1 | what Cide said |
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| 23:18.16 | Adrine | So, since Cenarion Circle is down till tomorrow, someone recommend a server for me to roll on so I can work on Sanity. |
| 23:18.38 | SB1-Work | Probably one of the "Recommended" realms |
| 23:18.39 | Mery | one that says "low" |
| 23:18.43 | Inside | Aggramar |
| 23:18.43 | Inside | <3 |
| 23:18.57 | Adrine | Pff, that's so boring though! :) |
| 23:19.01 | JoshBork2 | Adrine: draka (the OFFICIAL) dev guilds are there :-D |
| 23:19.12 | Adrine | Heheh |
| 23:19.30 | Adrine | If I get a beta key in the next...45 minutes, I'll just go dev on the beta servers! |
| 23:19.35 | Inside | XD |
| 23:19.37 | Inside | IF |
| 23:19.49 | Mike | Now, how do I use saved vars so other users of this don't need to change everything in the addon, and also make different server preferences? |
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| 23:21.15 | JoshBork2 | Mike: have you been to wowwiki.com? |
| 23:21.32 | SB1-Work | Mike: 1) don't declare the variable local, 2) ## SavedVariables: VariableName1, VariableName2 (in the .toc) |
| 23:21.36 | Mike | I use that, yes. |
| 23:21.44 | SB1-Work | Also, ## SavedVariablesByCharacter iirc |
| 23:22.27 | Mike | This is my first addon to write, so I don't know how to do everything, and rather then search wow wiki for ever, I just ask for what I need here. |
| 23:22.42 | SB1-Work | Well, I'd recommend searching the wiki in all honesty |
| 23:23.03 | SB1-Work | Searching for "saved variables" pulls up |
| 23:23.03 | SB1-Work | http://www.google.com/custom?domains=wowwiki.com&q=saved+variables&sitesearch=wowwiki.com&sa=Search&client=pub-5713967283907580&forid=1&channel=6987656965&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&cof=GALT%3A%2346ABFF%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23EEEEEE%3BVLC%3A4274FF%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A333333%3BLBGC%3AFFFF99%3BALC%3A46ABFF%3BLC%3A46ABFF%3BT%3AEEEEEE%3BGFNT%3AAAAAAA%3BGIMP%3AAAAAAA%3BLH%3A100%3BLW%3A100%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2Fskins%2Fcommon%2Fimages%2Fwiki |
| 23:23.03 | SB1-Work | -100.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wowwiki.com%2F%3BLP%3A1%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en |
| 23:23.10 | SB1-Work | ... eww |
| 23:23.21 | SB1-Work | Either way, searching for saved variables pulls up the HOWTO first off. |
| 23:23.21 | Shadowed | thats a bit long |
| 23:23.34 | Mike | :D |
| 23:23.39 | Inside | what the fuck |
| 23:24.15 | JoshBork2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 23:24.20 | SB1-Work | I typed in "saved variables" into the search box, hit search, and pasted the site it sent me to :P |
| 23:24.21 | JoshBork2 | let's just go with that |
| 23:24.32 | SB1-Work | I just didn't realize that it would include all of their embedded HTML.. |
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| 23:28.40 | Thunder_Child | does anyone know how to access the red *error* text on the screen? |
| 23:29.48 | Kaso | yes |
| 23:30.14 | Kaso | UIErrorsFrame |
| 23:30.30 | JoshBork2 | http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=ErrorMonster/ |
| 23:31.23 | Thunder_Child | not the frame...the text for when you are out of mana stuff |
| 23:31.31 | Thunder_Child | or out of range |
| 23:32.07 | Xorro | sigh, no key yet |
| 23:32.51 | Cairenn | everyone that has said they have their key so far has a) be EU and b) was on the last list, so obviously they are processing them in reverse order, not to mention the fact that I'm not the only one submitting names, there are other fansites out there that are holding contests and giving out keys that way |
| 23:32.59 | Cairenn | when I got my key, it was late in the evening my time, like 10 in the evening |
| 23:33.24 | Xorro | ah. |
| 23:33.28 | Xorro | I will now shut up. |
| 23:33.34 | Xorro | thanks. |
| 23:33.51 | Cairenn | no shutting up necessary, just pointing it out |
| 23:34.13 | Mike | How do I end an "elseif" and have it do what is next? |
| 23:35.04 | Tain | People are generally very helpful here Mike, but some things are basic language questions that you really should read up on. |
| 23:35.14 | Mike | OK. |
| 23:35.37 | Tuller | if then elseif then else end |
| 23:35.53 | Tain | Of course many people are more helpful than I am. :) |
| 23:36.37 | Tuller | I'm a fan of http://lua.org, too |
| 23:37.05 | Mike | Sorry for my noob questions. |
| 23:37.30 | Thunder_Child | well we were all noobs once |
| 23:37.39 | Tain | http://lua-users.org/wiki/ also has wonderful resources in addition. Not that asking questions is wrong. |
| 23:37.51 | Thunder_Child | and some of us still are *cough* *cough* |
| 23:38.01 | Kaso | damn your too fast |
| 23:38.32 | Mike | I want to read lua 5.0, right? |
| 23:38.36 | Tain | Also the best thing anyone can do is read through Programming in Lua (PiL) http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 23:38.41 | Maldivia | hmm, any alliance on Tempest Keep EU? |
| 23:38.55 | Tain | The expansion will be Lua 5.1, the current is Lua 5.0 |
| 23:39.38 | Mike | What are "if" statements called, in the table of contents? |
| 23:40.03 | Werik`Curse | Control Structures? |
| 23:40.08 | Maldivia | if-then-else statements? |
| 23:42.13 | zenzelezz | http://www.lua.org/pil/4.3.1.html |
| 23:42.57 | zenzelezz | oops, wrong part of the site |
| 23:43.15 | zenzelezz | shouldn't be googling while playing Oblivion o_O |
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| 23:47.49 | Mike | Ok, I figured it out, this is the code that works with my toon names. |
| 23:47.49 | Mike | http://pastey.net/2226 |
| 23:48.21 | Mike | Thanks room, and especially MentalPower for your help. |
| 23:48.44 | Adrine | "elseif itemType == "Weppon" then" - you probably want to fix the spelling there :) |
| 23:49.12 | Mike | Now, to figure out how to get this to work with CT_MailMod. |
| 23:49.40 | Mike | They both call IsAltKeyDown() |
| 23:50.05 | Mike | And Shift and Ctrl are taken by system functions. |
| 23:50.08 | Mike | ... |
| 23:50.54 | Mike | Are those the only Is[blak]KeyDown()s |
| 23:51.23 | Mike | I would have to use a key binding then. |
| 23:51.25 | Mery | yes |
| 23:52.39 | Mike | Or how about something on the trigger: if not MailFrame:IsShown() |
| 23:52.42 | Mike | Err |
| 23:52.45 | Shadowed | [32:16] <@Cairenn> everyone that has said they have their key so far has a) be EU and b) was on the last list, so obviously they are processing them in reverse order, not to mention the fact that I'm not the only one submitting names, there are other fansites out there that are holding contests and giving out keys that way |
| 23:52.46 | Shadowed | [32:24] <@Cairenn> when I got my key, it was late in the evening my time, like 10 in the evening |
| 23:52.49 | Mike | if not CTMailFrame:IsShown() |
| 23:52.56 | Mike | Or what ever the name is. |
