| 00:00.14 | Mike | Input: Item to be mailed |
| 00:00.54 | Kaso | ok, when do you need the itemlink/GetItemInfo |
| 00:01.06 | Mike | I wrote down what I wanted to do, and curently I need to get said clicked items itemID to pass to GetItemInfo() for sType |
| 00:01.37 | Kaso | ok, so when you click an item in your bag, you want it to pass sType to some function then? |
| 00:01.37 | Mike | And then depending on what sType is, that is the recipient. |
| 00:01.42 | Mike | Yup. |
| 00:02.07 | Shadowed | interesting idea |
| 00:02.24 | Kaso | ok, so, basically you need to hook PickupContainerItem, do you know about hooking? |
| 00:03.11 | Inside | asdf |
| 00:03.12 | Inside | >_> |
| 00:03.14 | Mike | Currently I just want to hardwire in my toons that do whatever item sell, then I will make it a variable and then have it saved in the Saved Variables folders. |
| 00:03.32 | Mike | Is it like fishing? |
| 00:04.45 | Maldivia | hooking = execute some of your code, just before or after the call of another function |
| 00:04.59 | Mike | What I need it the itemID of said container item. Pass that into GetItemInfo() |
| 00:05.06 | Maldivia | so for instance, everytime PickupContainerItem is called from some addon, your code is called aswell |
| 00:05.13 | Kaso | Ill write up a little example, gimme a sec |
| 00:05.55 | Mike | Well, I would want an "and" statement so it is when PickupContainerItem() is called and the Mail frame is open. |
| 00:06.09 | Maldivia | well, you check that part in your hook |
| 00:06.43 | Kaso | Mike: http://pastey.net/2117 |
| 00:06.49 | Mike | Because this would be pointless with how I am currently designing it, if it ran when mail fram is not open. |
| 00:06.52 | Mike | frame* |
| 00:07.51 | Mike | What does "OLD" mean? |
| 00:08.05 | Tuller | http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4736/vbagnonbs5.jpg hurray :) |
| 00:08.06 | Shadowed | Kaso: Don't you mean OLD_PickupContainerItem at 9 and not PickupContainerItem? |
| 00:08.23 | Kaso | attually that shouldnt be there at all |
| 00:08.23 | Maldivia | Shadowed: I think that line shouldn't be there :) |
| 00:08.25 | Kaso | sorry :< |
| 00:08.34 | Shadowed | or that, i didn't read 4# :p |
| 00:08.44 | Kaso | OLD is just a variiable im using to store the function im hooking mike |
| 00:09.02 | Mike | Oh. |
| 00:09.32 | Mike | Thsi triggers whenever an item is picked up? |
| 00:09.33 | Shadowed | It's like the wiki when you edit a page, OLD_PickupContainerItem is the old entry before you hooked it |
| 00:09.44 | Mike | I am new to wikis too. |
| 00:10.16 | Mike | This is all I have done http://norganna.org/wiki/Auctioneer/Backup/Mac for norganna.com |
| 00:10.18 | Maldivia | for WoW 2.0, you'll do hooksecurefunc("PickupContainerItem", myPickupContainerItem) instead :) |
| 00:10.27 | Mike | Those of you with the right OS, take a look :) |
| 00:10.31 | JoshBork1 | oooo, i have a question! |
| 00:10.37 | Mike | O!! |
| 00:10.41 | Shadowed | Well, it's basically the old version of the variable. It doesn't have to be OLD_ thats just what Kaso choosed to use |
| 00:10.59 | Maldivia | JoshBork1: and I have an answer... no necessarily to your question though :) |
| 00:11.42 | JoshBork1 | can i do something like: function bob(stuff) return 1,2,3,4 end; return 5, bob(true),7 and expect to get 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 as the result? |
| 00:11.58 | Inside | erm |
| 00:12.26 | cladhaire | JoshBork return is final |
| 00:12.34 | cladhaire | if you want to do that.. add em to a table, and unpack() it. |
| 00:12.35 | Mike | Why would you want to do that Josh? |
| 00:12.46 | JoshBork1 | blast. so what does it do instead? |
| 00:12.53 | Maldivia | JoshBork1: NO, the result would be 5, 1, 7 |
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| 00:13.13 | JoshBork1 | Mike: i'm extending the UnitCastingInfo('unit') function in TBC |
| 00:13.14 | Maldivia | JoshBork1: but if you said return 5,7,bob() then you're get all the results |
| 00:13.21 | JoshBork1 | interesting |
| 00:14.51 | Mike | What is " DoStuff(itemSubType) " in your code? |
| 00:14.58 | Maldivia | JoshBork1: basically, multiple return values are ignored, and only the first used, unless it's at the end of a list |
| 00:15.36 | Kaso | DoStuff is whatever funciton you wanna call with itemSubType when you click an item |
| 00:15.53 | Kaso | i just your computers wierd encoding or something |
| 00:16.44 | Maldivia | Mike: in your case, it would probably be something like (pseudo code): if itemSubType == "ARMOR" then MailFrameRecipient:SetText("Name1") end |
| 00:17.10 | Mike | Thanks, I don't know what that means, but thanks! |
| 00:17.21 | Mike | I will write that down. |
| 00:17.38 | Maldivia | you wanted to send to different persons, depending on the item type, right? |
| 00:17.44 | Mike | Yup. |
| 00:18.18 | Maldivia | well, dont know the exact subtype names or the name of the frame that contains the name field for mails, so I just "made" them up |
| 00:18.29 | Mike | That is what it will do. |
| 00:19.12 | Maldivia | well, you'll need to find which itemSubType values goes to which persons, and then set the recipient field in the mail fram to that |
| 00:19.54 | Mike | Item that is clicked+key combo, then itemID, then use itemID to get what sType, then mail to toon that does sType sales. |
| 00:20.09 | Mike | Who do you set the recipient? |
| 00:20.32 | Mike | how do* |
| 00:21.00 | Mike | MailFrameRecipient:SetText("Name1")? |
| 00:21.50 | Maldivia | think the correct frame name is SendMailNameEditBox |
| 00:22.07 | Maldivia | so SendMailNameEditBox:SetText("Mike") |
| 00:22.12 | Mike | Thanks, I have not found that yet. |
| 00:22.25 | Mike | Ok, I will try that with "/run" |
| 00:22.44 | Mike | It did it! |
| 00:23.05 | Mike | How would I use a variable in place of Mike? |
| 00:23.28 | Mike | No quotes? |
| 00:23.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 00:23.48 | Mike | And that would be how the variable is defined? |
| 00:23.57 | ScytheBlade1 | local variable = "text" |
| 00:24.25 | Mery | Good Night all |
| 00:24.46 | Mike | Ok, and then there is attach item to mail and ClickSendMailItemButton() |
| 00:26.05 | Maldivia | it might be easier to avoid the mailframe functions all together, and just use the UI commands |
| 00:26.33 | Mike | What are those? |
| 00:27.22 | Maldivia | UI API = the functions defined by the game client itself |
| 00:27.32 | Mike | I am nubi, so I just want to do the first things that works, get a working model, no matter how inefficient it is :P |
| 00:27.41 | Mike | Then, find the best way to do it. |
| 00:27.51 | Mike | best/effecent |
| 00:28.03 | Mike | http://www.wowwiki.com/API |
| 00:28.05 | Mike | ? |
| 00:31.09 | Maldivia | you can use SendMail(recipient, subject, body) to send the mail |
| 00:31.26 | Maldivia | and ClickSendMailItemButton() to attack the current item you have picked up to your mail |
| 00:31.37 | Mike | Do you know how to attach items? |
| 00:31.41 | Mike | attack, lol |
| 00:32.11 | Maldivia | attach* |
| 00:32.12 | Maldivia | :) |
| 00:32.52 | Mike | Wired picture of attacking items in my head... |
| 00:32.59 | JoshBork1 | can a frame that calls RegisterAllEvents unregister for specific events still? |
| 00:33.27 | Mike | So, why is "SendMailNameEditBox:SetText("Mike")" inefficient? |
| 00:34.03 | Maldivia | Mike: it's not as such, but actually more tricky, than calling the functions directly |
| 00:34.28 | Mike | How do you access a local variable? |
| 00:34.44 | Maldivia | just write it's name |
| 00:35.04 | Mike | Like what file it is in? |
| 00:35.05 | Maldivia | for instance, something like: http://pastey.net/2119 |
| 00:35.17 | Mike | Are we talking about saved variables? |
| 00:35.47 | Maldivia | a local variable cannot be saved |
| 00:35.51 | Maldivia | only global variables can be save |
| 00:36.10 | Mike | What is this concept? |
| 00:36.18 | Inside | God damn you lua and your nil value |
| 00:36.19 | Inside | '_' |
| 00:36.36 | JoshBork1 | Mike: local vs global has to do with scope |
| 00:37.28 | Maldivia | a local variable is only accessable within the scope it's defined, forinstance within a function, where as global variables are accessable everywhere |
| 00:37.49 | Corrodias | faaaantastic. E'T has a queue again today, and while it's only about 10 minutes, if i had started 10 mintues later than i did, i could be late for ZG |
| 00:37.55 | Corrodias | could have been |
| 00:37.56 | Mike | How do I access a global? |
| 00:38.38 | Corrodias | same way. are you asking how you can access them if they have the same name? |
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| 00:38.51 | Inside | Best thing to do is to overwrite the globals. |
| 00:39.14 | Mike | I made it swimming from Hinterlands, past WPL and now I am in Tirisfal Glades |
| 00:39.16 | Mike | LOOL |
| 00:39.20 | Corrodias | does Lua use a keyword like "local" to declare local variables? that would make it easy to say how to use them |
| 00:39.32 | Maldivia | yes it does |
| 00:40.20 | Inside | Something like oh.... _G[eq] = return false; |
| 00:40.20 | Inside | Not sure that'l work or whatever >_> |
| 00:40.20 | Maldivia | Mike: all variables, unless specifically declared local in the curren scope, are global variables |
| 00:40.49 | Corrodias | thus, "bob = 1" is global, and "local bob = 1" is local |
| 00:41.08 | Maldivia | so for instance function test() myVar = 1; end <-- accesses the global variable myVar |
| 00:41.11 | Corrodias | if you want to save variables, you set up the variable name in the .toc file and use it normally as a global variable |
| 00:41.24 | Corrodias | the last value it had when you logged out is saved |
| 00:41.33 | Maldivia | where as function test2() local myVar = 2; end <-- is now a local variable named myVar, and the global variable with the same name is untouched |
| 00:42.56 | Corrodias | right |
| 00:43.21 | Corrodias | well, i'm not going to get the "early bonus" for being there 15 minutes early, but i probably won't be late |
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| 00:44.46 | cladhaire | Tem: Fire== fun |
| 00:45.06 | Tem | until you realize that a warlock can outdps you while doing less threat |
| 00:45.09 | Corrodias | what's this? WoW appears to have frozen while trying to connect |
| 00:45.09 | Tem | then it's just depressing |
| 00:46.34 | Corrodias | oh, sweet. it didn't make me wait in line again after i killed WoW! |
| 00:46.52 | Tem | working as intended |
| 00:48.50 | Mike | I am still trying to comprehend all this. |
| 00:51.07 | TheZanke | man...and i thought that because i knew c++ and vb i would be good at this... |
| 00:51.22 | TheZanke | i am totally lost in what you are all sayinh |
| 00:51.26 | TheZanke | saying even* |
| 00:52.01 | Tain | I still am not sad I gave up on my 60 Mage a long time ago. |
| 00:52.45 | JoshBork1 | you should give it to me tain |
| 00:52.55 | Mike | What all does http://pastey.net/2119 do? |
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| 00:58.51 | Mike | Why are the text different colors? |
| 00:59.10 | Tain | My Rogue is on the account though. Not that I've played him in a while, but he does have a lot of gear. |
| 01:00.16 | JoshBork1 | i've always wanted to try a dps class... |
| 01:01.48 | Tain | There's actually not many classes I'd even play anymore. |
| 01:02.08 | Mike | How do I run your little code thing, put it in the Interface folder? |
| 01:06.14 | JoshBork1 | Tain: what do you play now? |
| 01:06.59 | TheZanke | would anyone enjoy assisting me in making my first little addon? so i can learn(beware, questions will be INC) |
| 01:08.45 | JoshBork1 | Cairenn: ping |
| 01:08.50 | Cairenn | JoshBork pong |
| 01:09.03 | JoshBork1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=33088#post33088 |
| 01:09.37 | JoshBork1 | interesting. he submitted and attached to the post |
| 01:10.22 | Kaso | submit them proper? that cant be correct can it? |
| 01:10.23 | Cairenn | what type of mod would you classify that? chat? raid? data? |
| 01:10.45 | JoshBork1 | i think raid is fine. but he attached a zip of it to his forum post |
| 01:11.01 | Cairenn | I see the problem josh :p |
| 01:11.10 | JoshBork1 | <# |
| 01:11.17 | JoshBork1 | <@! |
| 01:11.45 | Cairenn | it's been submitted properly already, just poofing the attachment |
| 01:11.57 | JoshBork1 | i modified my post too |
| 01:12.00 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 01:12.20 | JoshBork1 | just trying to make your job easier |
| 01:17.40 | chuckg | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4969 |
| 01:17.42 | chuckg | Same mod. |
| 01:21.25 | Mike | Maldivia: I am trying to run your little block of code, I keep getting things like "Interface |
| 01:22.03 | Mike | Interface\AddOns\test\test.lua:9: unexpected symbol near ' |
| 01:22.27 | Mike | For basically each line. I think it is all the spaces you put on each line... |
| 01:24.12 | Mike | Any ideas? |
| 01:24.23 | JoshBork1 | i'm trying it |
| 01:24.32 | Kirkburn | Maldivia has left the building |
| 01:24.55 | JoshBork1 | it's working for me. paste code your entire file |
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| 01:27.24 | Mike | http://pastey.net/2120 |
| 01:27.33 | Mike | Is what I currently have. |
| 01:28.10 | JoshBork1 | get rid of those funky characters at the start of every line |
| 01:28.21 | Mike | Humm |
| 01:28.25 | JoshBork1 | replace them with tabs or spaces |
| 01:28.26 | Mike | Those would be tabs |
| 01:28.34 | TheZanke | I am making my first mod, all i want it to do is when i connect i want it to send out a different LFG message depending on my level and class so right now it would say "57 Druid LFG for BRD/LBRS/Scholo PST" and when i hit 58 it would say "58 Druid LFG BRD/LBRS/Scholo/Strat PST" hwere would i get staterd about making this? |
| 01:28.35 | Mike | I am on mac. |
| 01:28.55 | TheZanke | where* |
| 01:29.19 | TheZanke | i have the whole 64 page LUA manual printed and in a binder |
| 01:29.30 | TheZanke | and i just read the xml thing on w3schools |
| 01:29.44 | JoshBork1 | mike: then just use spaces |
| 01:29.44 | Mike | http://pastey.net/2121 |
| 01:30.05 | Mike | I just saved it as a different format, its cool. |
| 01:30.25 | Tain | Wow, that was pretty pathetic from the Simpsons. |
| 01:30.32 | Kirkburn | ? |
| 01:30.56 | Tain | An absurdly heavy handed indictment of the invasion of Iraq in the Treehouse of Horrors special. |
| 01:31.49 | zespri_work | TheZanke, I think it can be done in a macro, even without an addon |
| 01:32.34 | TheZanke | yeah but i want to a)learn to make addon, thought it would be an easy start. and b) i want it to automatically post it when i connect, w/o me pushing anything |
| 01:33.01 | Mike | How is it I reload the UI? |
| 01:33.14 | TheZanke | ./consol reloadui |
| 01:33.26 | TheZanke | console* |
| 01:33.34 | Mike | Thought it was that, but I can't spell :/ |
| 01:33.45 | TheZanke | likewise |
| 01:34.20 | TheZanke | well if you change your wow shortcut and add -console after the target then all you need to do from then on is push |
| 01:34.21 | TheZanke | ` |
| 01:34.26 | TheZanke | and then type reloadui |
| 01:34.50 | TheZanke | easier, imo |
| 01:34.59 | MentalPower | or just make a macro |
| 01:35.02 | TheZanke | lawl |
| 01:35.05 | TheZanke | tru |
| 01:35.08 | TheZanke | true* |
| 01:35.12 | MentalPower | or install devTools and /rl |
| 01:35.31 | Tain | Was just gonna say, Devtools is the way to go. |
| 01:35.31 | Mike | --/console reloadui |
| 01:35.44 | TheZanke | but! its cool to have a consol in wow... makes changing tab distance easier, autoclearafk, etc |
| 01:35.45 | Mike | What are these DEV tools? |
| 01:35.51 | JoshBork1 | ~devtools |
| 01:35.53 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
| 01:36.14 | Tain | The Devtools are good for everyone. |
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| 01:36.58 | Cairenn | hell, *I* have devtools installed |
| 01:37.23 | Tain | Might as well just package Devtools with Wow! |
| 01:37.28 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:39.13 | Mike | JoshBork: How exactly did you load that code? |
| 01:39.41 | Mike | Did you just put it in a folder that is in the interface folder and have the .toc reference the .lua file? |
| 01:39.59 | Cairenn | the point being that even someone who isn't a dev themselves but frequently helps others with testing their mods benefits from Devtools |
| 01:40.45 | Mike | Is that all the DEV tools are? 5 slash commands? |
| 01:41.33 | MentalPower | 5 VERY powerful slash commands, and one SUPER function (DevTools_Dump()) |
| 01:41.43 | Mike | And... |
| 01:41.48 | Mike | What all does this do? |
| 01:42.33 | MentalPower | read |
| 01:43.56 | Mike | Where |
| 01:44.12 | End | sometimes I stick DevTools_Dump() in my own code for testing :P |
| 01:44.33 | Mike | End:? What an interesting name. |
| 01:44.47 | End | indeed.. |
| 01:48.02 | Kirkburn | Oooh, the TBC credits music is coool (look, I'm doing what I can to 'experience' it before I get a key, okay?) |
| 01:48.26 | cladhaire | look for Iriel and Cair's names |
| 01:48.39 | Cairenn | cladhaire: shhhh |
| 01:48.47 | Esamynn | ~lart cladhaire |
| 01:48.49 | Kirkburn | \o/\o/\o/ |
| 01:49.06 | Esamynn | purl: ROFL |
| 01:49.07 | purl | somebody said rofl was Roll Over Fat Lesbian. rolling on the floor laughing. Or see rocl. |
| 01:49.17 | Esamynn | oh |
| 01:49.24 | Esamynn | that wasn't want I meant to get back ;) |
| 01:50.21 | Tain | purl, rocl |
| 01:50.34 | Esamynn | uh oh |
| 01:50.36 | Kirkburn | "Automated Test Engineers" ... they have named robot testers?! |
| 01:52.09 | Kirkburn | Btw, random Q ... is some of the WoW music live recordings? |
| 01:52.21 | Tain | ~wtf rocl |
| 01:52.24 | Mike | ~lart MentalPower |
| 01:52.44 | MentalPower | hey, what was that for? |
| 01:52.50 | Kirkburn | Jebus, how much of the credits are there?! |
| 01:53.05 | Tain | There are a lot of people to thank. |
| 01:53.08 | Mike | Just wanted get you back for all those "smacks" |
| 01:53.18 | cladhaire | ~spank Mike |
| 01:53.19 | purl | ACTION bends Mike over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Mike's pasty white buttocks. |
| 01:53.19 | Mike | What is a lart anyway? |
| 01:53.27 | Esamynn | purl lart |
| 01:53.41 | Esamynn | purl literal lart |
| 01:53.42 | purl | "lart" is "Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool" |
| 01:53.43 | Kirkburn | Oh-oh, just answered my own random question, yes, there were live recordings |
| 01:54.07 | Tain | ~rlart |
| 01:54.34 | Mike | LOL |
| 01:56.33 | TheZanke | how do i make something happen uppon connection? |
| 01:56.48 | Mike | Do it your self? |
| 01:56.55 | TheZanke | lawl |
| 01:57.28 | Mike | What is this lawl? |
| 01:57.39 | TheZanke | lol phonetical |
| 01:58.03 | TheZanke | something from my server i guess |
| 01:58.55 | Kirkburn | omgz omgz omgz, oooh namez on teh Special Thanks list! :) |
| 01:59.14 | Kirkburn | I have to say, that is one incredibly long credits |
| 02:00.16 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 02:00.34 | Cairenn | I almost died when I found out |
| 02:00.50 | Cairenn | thank god most people never look at that |
| 02:00.57 | Kirkburn | That would have been most unfortunate had you done so :P |
| 02:01.05 | Tain | Why, you're all sorts of helpful! |
| 02:01.20 | Kirkburn | Aha, we must make Blizzard watch the entire credits when loading TBC! |
| 02:01.23 | Kirkburn | uh |
| 02:01.34 | Cairenn | it's in the stupid book, too |
| 02:01.35 | Kirkburn | We must make Blizzard make everyone else ... blah blah blah |
| 02:01.52 | Tain | It's in the book! |
| 02:02.33 | Tain | Of course the really embarassing part must be the Cairenn in-game pet you can get. |
| 02:02.40 | Cairenn | ! |
| 02:02.43 | Kirkburn | hahaha |
| 02:03.05 | MentalPower | LOL!! |
| 02:03.16 | Cairenn | you guys aren't nice AT ALL! |
| 02:03.36 | Kirkburn | Ooh, I'd love if they called one of the draenei orphan girls Cairenn during Orphans week :) |
| 02:03.46 | MentalPower | oh come on cair, can't we have some fun at your expense? :P |
| 02:05.01 | Kirkburn | "I bought Cairenn some of Tigule and Foror's ice cream today" :P |
| 02:05.40 | Kirkburn | Anyways, damn right that you're on there :) |
| 02:06.00 | MentalPower | look at the PDF version of the game manual |
| 02:06.06 | MentalPower | she's there too |
| 02:06.22 | Cairenn | SHUSH! |
| 02:06.27 | Kirkburn | Wait, the original one too? |
| 02:06.41 | MentalPower | no, the BC one |
| 02:06.54 | Kirkburn | *he says, ignoring the strange voice coming from Canadia* |
| 02:07.20 | MentalPower | kill an "i" |
| 02:07.33 | Kirkburn | No. :) |
| 02:08.05 | Kirkburn | Argh, no PDF reader on that PC ... I'll have to take your word for it |
| 02:08.11 | zenzelezz | "The below listed Realms will be restarted at 5am tonight CET (Paris time) in order to fix the issue with Darkmoon Faire being in the wrong area." <-- guess they took a wrong turn along the way somewhere |
| 02:08.20 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 02:08.36 | Kirkburn | Hey, that's odd, I have two BC manuals in that directory |
| 02:10.15 | Kirkburn | My BC install is 6.58 gigs now, ouch |
| 02:15.20 | Cairenn | you guys are having all together too much fun with this, quit it! |
| 02:15.54 | Tain | What's this all for if it isn't fun. :) |
| 02:17.05 | Mike | Cairenn: Make me. |
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| 02:19.01 | Kirkburn | *sigh* Looks like "Confederation of Aerial Industries" will be getting my support this year |
| 02:19.31 | Garoun|Loupana | Ah, so you two are in the Additional Thanks credits :P |
| 02:20.25 | Garoun|Loupana | grats, even though I'm laughing my ass off at some of those Additionals... |
| 02:20.36 | Garoun|Loupana | California DMV, Caffiene :) |
| 02:20.49 | Mike | v |
| 02:20.55 | Kirkburn | Additional Thanks to: "Mountain Dew" ... "Karaoke Thursdays" |
| 02:21.09 | Garoun|Loupana | HAHA |
| 02:21.15 | Garoun|Loupana | Every Gnome I've ever killed |
| 02:23.36 | Kirkburn | It's going to be quite cool when TBC comes out - the wiki will already have much of the info anyone will need :) |
| 02:29.30 | Garoun|Loupana | sigh, people must already be starting to re-up their accounts, both of my primary servers are full |
| 02:30.20 | Mike | What? Re-Up? |
| 02:30.32 | zenzelezz | re-open, return |
| 02:30.32 | Garoun|Loupana | reopen their WoW accounts |
| 02:31.24 | Tain | I'm surprised it took someone so long to do what City of Heroes did. Rewards for people depending on how long their account has been active. |
| 02:32.13 | Inside | So that whole making a mod thing for WoW |
| 02:32.23 | Inside | I have to have an active, updated, useful mod uploaded.. by when? |
| 02:34.21 | MentalPower | dunno, but I guess the answer would be soon |
| 02:34.28 | Inside | tonight soon or tommorow soon? |
| 02:35.25 | MentalPower | dunno |
| 02:35.45 | Tain | The important thing is that it actually works. |
| 02:35.59 | Inside | right.. |
| 02:36.00 | Inside | but.. >_> |
| 02:36.04 | Inside | It will work =P |
| 02:36.22 | Inside | And I'd still be doing it, beta key or not since I started before learning about it, but the whole expiditiency thing. |
| 02:39.06 | Mike | One or more characters were encountered that cannot be represented in the desired text encoding (MacOS Error code: -8754) |
| 02:39.29 | Mike | When I try to save it in Text Wrangeler |
| 02:39.33 | Mike | lol |
| 02:39.45 | Xuerian | It's all a big lie. |
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| 02:40.42 | Mike | That was meet for just MP, o well |
| 02:41.18 | MentalPower | well, theres your problem |
| 02:41.32 | MentalPower | those "Â" chars aren't supposed to be there |
| 02:41.50 | Mike | It only shows when I copy to pasty |
| 02:41.52 | Mike | .... |
| 02:42.02 | Inside | er hmmm. |
| 02:42.39 | cladhaire | Fire mages.. are fun =) |
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| 02:43.03 | mjgoossen | YAY crash |
| 02:44.05 | mjgoossen | [I am Mike] |
| 02:44.09 | mjgoossen | What did I miss? |
| 02:45.28 | Garoun|Loupana | I hate customs that camp the GY and don't bother capping |
| 02:45.50 | Kirkburn | G'night all! |
| 02:47.16 | Cairenn | wheee, 99 mods in the BC Beta section now |
| 02:47.47 | zenzelezz | new stuff or updates ones? |
| 02:47.53 | Cairenn | both |
| 02:48.10 | Inside | shit |
| 02:48.10 | Inside | XD |
| 02:48.18 | Inside | I love when I accidentally spam a channel with my program |
| 02:48.22 | Cairenn | *mostly* folks hacking away at existing mods, trying to get them working in BC |
| 02:49.53 | cladhaire | HOLY SHIT |
| 02:49.55 | mjgoossen | LOL |
| 02:49.56 | cladhaire | O.o !! |
| 02:50.02 | Cairenn | cladhaire: ? |
| 02:50.03 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 02:50.24 | zenzelezz | and here I was thinking the laptop had taken a trip across the pond or something |
| 02:50.27 | Cairenn | oh, whatever |
| 02:50.30 | Tain | I saw a desperate housefly |
| 02:50.50 | mjgoossen | I am running http://pastey.net/2123 |
| 02:51.12 | mjgoossen | And when ever I pick up an item with the mouse pointer, it sends said item to "Mike" |
| 02:51.13 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: It'll be here 10.00 am tomorrow |
| 02:51.16 | mjgoossen | LOL |
| 02:51.33 | zenzelezz | we'll see about that |
| 02:51.45 | cladhaire | 200g for a [Beasts Deck] |
| 02:51.49 | cladhaire | decent trade? |
| 02:52.20 | Gryphen | i play too much when i try and click on that |
| 02:52.40 | cladhaire | hahaha =) |
| 02:53.18 | cladhaire | Neutral Auction house still the only way to get items to the other faction? |
| 02:53.24 | cladhaire | Mind Control/Trade doesn't work any longer? |
| 02:56.16 | Tain | I thought they fixed that a long time ago. |
| 02:57.33 | Inside | wow |
| 02:57.35 | Inside | that's.. quite the bug |
| 02:57.36 | Inside | 0_o |
| 02:59.02 | Tain | Heroes and John Goodman on Studio 60 tomorrow night. Gonna be a good night of television. |
| 02:59.27 | Inside | 217 lines so far... XD but absolutely no game code. yish |
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| 03:01.51 | cladhaire | that.. was......... rid-fucking-ulous. |
| 03:01.59 | Garoun|Loupana | jesus, 29 hunter with 2500 hp |
| 03:02.02 | Garoun|Loupana | that's just stupid |
| 03:02.18 | cladhaire | is darkmoon faire up? |
| 03:02.47 | Garoun|Loupana | not yet |
| 03:05.48 | Garoun|Loupana | there is someone using a mod for WSG that spams BG chat for flag respawn |
| 03:05.56 | Garoun|Loupana | but does it count down from 5... no |
| 03:05.59 | Garoun|Loupana | it starts at 10 |
| 03:06.34 | ckknight | cladhaire, ping |
| 03:07.27 | cladhaire | ckknight: pong |
| 03:07.48 | ckknight | cladhaire, in #wowace, CIA-17 is painfully slow, know any way to kick it into the present? |
| 03:07.57 | cladhaire | what do you mean by slow? |
| 03:08.16 | ckknight | 30 minutes slow |
| 03:08.23 | ckknight | in reporting |
| 03:08.23 | cladhaire | then no |
| 03:08.29 | ckknight | :-( |
| 03:08.40 | cladhaire | I'm not sure why it would be doing that.. it should be about a minute beyond your commit.. |
| 03:09.02 | cladhaire | the script ensures all the mirrors are up to date before it sends the message out.. so people don't pounce on it before its done propagating. |
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| 03:09.24 | cladhaire | but i'll take a look at it.. i may be able to put it towards the top and see if that helps.. but 30 minutes can't really be our side |
| 03:10.22 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:10.22 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:11.13 | cladhaire | there were two old sync scripts in there.. they could have been causing _some_ delay.. but not 30 mins. |
| 03:11.15 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 03:11.19 | cladhaire | does it show up on the web CIA right away? |
| 03:17.22 | cladhaire | where is darkmoon faire this month? |
| 03:17.38 | chuckg | Thunderbluff. |
| 03:17.41 | chuckg | Or rather, Mulgore. |
| 03:18.22 | cladhaire | thanks.. is it up today, or not until tomorrow? |
| 03:19.36 | chuckg | Tommorow. |
| 03:19.40 | chuckg | We held off on loatheb for it. |
| 03:19.41 | chuckg | :) |
| 03:19.51 | cladhaire | k k |
| 03:19.53 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 03:19.58 | cladhaire | just got a beasts deck for 200g |
| 03:20.03 | cladhaire | and transferred it to horde side |
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| 03:21.16 | ckknight | cladhaire, can we get someone's account on SVN ganked? |
| 03:21.23 | cladhaire | yes |
| 03:21.25 | cladhaire | who |
| 03:21.27 | ckknight | or at least know how to contact them |
| 03:21.33 | cladhaire | you can send me PM's so we don't annoy the channel |
| 03:21.36 | cladhaire | since they don't care =) |
| 03:21.37 | ckknight | sayclub |
| 03:21.43 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 03:21.56 | malreth | but... |
| 03:22.08 | malreth | it's drama... i thrive off of drama |
| 03:23.08 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:23.17 | ckknight | c'mon over to #wowace, then |
| 03:23.17 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:24.32 | Inside | What's wow ace? |
| 03:24.41 | Cairenn | channel devoted to Ace |
| 03:24.46 | malreth | it's like TNT... full of drama |
| 03:24.51 | Inside | what's ace, let's put it that way |
| 03:25.07 | malreth | i just rewrote StopTheSpam! to use Ace2, BTW |
| 03:25.25 | Inside | I'm not sure I see what the whole spamming problem in WoW is |
| 03:25.26 | Inside | c_c |
| 03:25.39 | ckknight | Inside, in the WoW world, like Star Wars, we have the Light side and the Dark side |
| 03:25.42 | malreth | Inside, how many addons do you have installed. |
| 03:25.43 | ckknight | Ace is like the Dark side. |
| 03:26.21 | malreth | don't need an exact number... an estimate will do |
| 03:26.24 | malreth | over 20? |
| 03:26.31 | Shadowed | 34.1 |
| 03:26.50 | Garoun|Loupana | 3.14 repeating |
| 03:27.03 | malreth | you have no chance to survive! |
| 03:27.18 | Kemayo | I have 109. :-D |
| 03:27.25 | malreth | Well, I have something like 300 installed. |
| 03:27.31 | malreth | of course, I am lying yet again |
| 03:27.38 | Shadowed | I have uh |
| 03:27.40 | malreth | purl, malreth? |
| 03:27.42 | purl | malreth scares me |
| 03:27.48 | Kemayo | Actually, wait, 97. I was counting the Blizzard folders. |
| 03:27.50 | malreth | hmm.. |
| 03:27.52 | Shadowed | 119 folders, which can't be right |
| 03:28.10 | Shadowed | 51 mods! |
| 03:28.15 | Kemayo | ...and that's not factoring in that a bunch are disabled... |
| 03:28.41 | malreth | well, how many times do you need to know that "Hello Kitty Raid Assist has loaded!!" or "Telo's Stool Softener has loaded." etc, etc... |
| 03:28.57 | Shadowed | I personally want to make sure that my Hello Kitty mods are loaded |
| 03:29.05 | Inside | Same here |
| 03:29.08 | Inside | I have about um 3 mods |
| 03:29.13 | Inside | any more than that and then my screen gets cluttered. |
| 03:29.16 | malreth | StopTheSpam removes all those OnLoad messages go away and never come back |
| 03:29.20 | cladhaire | i wish i had my epic mount for real |
| 03:29.21 | Inside | So? |
| 03:29.22 | Inside | 0_o |
| 03:29.22 | cladhaire | not just in the expansino |
| 03:29.29 | Inside | it's just a bit of spam, my eyes glaze right over. |
| 03:29.38 | malreth | ah... with only 3, you probably don't worry about it |
| 03:29.57 | ckknight | I don't use mods that spam the start |
| 03:30.04 | malreth | but are you truly happy with only 3 addons? that's like having only 3 testicles. More is always better. |
| 03:30.17 | Inside | um |
| 03:30.21 | Inside | I'm happy with just 2 testicles |
| 03:30.22 | Shadowed | don't scare him away malreth |
| 03:30.22 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 03:30.24 | malreth | Believe IT! |
| 03:30.30 | cladhaire | goodnight all |
| 03:30.30 | Inside | the more testicles you have, the more it hurts when someone kicks you. |
| 03:30.38 | Inside | Also, it's a lot harder to have a magina with more testes |
| 03:30.41 | Inside | mangina* |
| 03:30.48 | Shadowed | I've got probably 20 mods that I didn't do myself, like 8 of those is the CTMods, no major UI changes :p |
| 03:30.59 | malreth | i think this is the best conversation ever now |
| 03:31.14 | Inside | www.manties.com, since we're on the subject |
| 03:31.32 | malreth | oh yeah! |
| 03:31.45 | malreth | extra room for jr. malreth |
| 03:32.10 | Inside | uuguh |
| 03:32.11 | malreth | time to close that window before my fiancee wonders what I'm browsing this late at night |
| 03:32.19 | Cairenn | night malreth :) |
| 03:32.22 | Inside | ^_^ |
| 03:32.26 | Inside | he means manties.co |
| 03:32.28 | Inside | com |
| 03:32.28 | Cairenn | errr, nm |
| 03:33.16 | malreth | i thought that was a subtle hint to behave, Cairenn. :) |
| 03:33.26 | clad|away | ... Did someone pastebin AsylumMud code in here earier? |
| 03:33.28 | clad|away | earlier? |
| 03:33.28 | malreth | i'll be good now. ;) |
| 03:33.30 | Cairenn | no, you know I'm not that subtle |
| 03:33.44 | Cairenn | if I want you to behave, I'll smack you into obedience |
| 03:33.47 | Inside | AsylumMUD? |
| 03:33.48 | Inside | >_> |
| 03:33.51 | clad|away | ooh AsylumUno |
| 03:33.52 | Inside | No, it was asylumuno! |
| 03:33.54 | clad|away | asylum.co.uk |
| 03:33.55 | clad|away | ok |
| 03:33.56 | malreth | and that's why i've dedicated my body and soul to you, Cair. |
| 03:33.57 | clad|away | i read it wrong. |
| 03:34.07 | Inside | It'd be insidetheasylumuno |
| 03:34.15 | Inside | But that's asslong for function names |
| 03:34.30 | Shadowed | ITEL |
| 03:34.48 | Inside | Ugh |
| 03:34.54 | Inside | I'm a tard, how do I do anonymous functions in lua again? |
| 03:35.03 | Inside | like something to stick in table.foreach |
| 03:35.04 | clad|away | function(arg1, arg2) end |
| 03:35.13 | Inside | I thought so |
| 03:35.22 | Tem | Inside, table.foreach is deprecated in 5.1 |
| 03:35.27 | malreth | just make a function object that isn't assigned to a variable |
| 03:35.28 | Tem | use a real for loop |
| 03:35.33 | malreth | and yeah, use generic-for |
| 03:35.39 | Inside | I have been >_> |
| 03:35.48 | Inside | fine fine |
| 03:36.13 | malreth | every time you use generic-for, Zeus smiles upon you |
| 03:36.15 | Inside | hmm |
| 03:36.23 | Inside | And then Athena slays me? Oh shit. |
| 03:36.27 | Inside | Wait, not Athena.. |
| 03:36.30 | Inside | What's her face. |
| 03:36.37 | Tem | H-something |
| 03:36.39 | malreth | Thor? |
| 03:36.51 | malreth | Horgar? |
| 03:36.53 | Inside | Zeus' jealous wife who goes around slaying/cursing everyone Zeus ever had sex with. |
| 03:37.03 | malreth | Oooh! |
| 03:37.03 | Tem | H-something |
| 03:37.07 | Inside | Hera |
| 03:37.11 | malreth | Vishna |
| 03:37.18 | Tem | Hera! |
| 03:37.20 | Tem | that's the one |
| 03:37.50 | Inside | hmm |
| 03:38.14 | malreth | Was she really like that? Man... her children must have turned out wack |
| 03:38.22 | Tem | *cough* |
| 03:38.28 | Inside | Um.. more or less |
| 03:38.53 | Tem | she tries to kill all of zeus's kids that aren't hers |
| 03:39.16 | malreth | don't they have laws against that sort of thing? |
| 03:39.23 | Inside | Not when you're god, no |
| 03:39.34 | malreth | well, i don't see how that's relevant |
| 03:40.58 | Inside | what's the max lines that a client can send in wow per second? |
| 03:40.59 | Inside | >_> |
| 03:41.41 | Shadowed | 245 billion |
| 03:41.47 | Inside | =P |
| 03:41.50 | malreth | server side flood protection is based on the total amount of traffic from your client, not just chat |
| 03:41.52 | Inside | Hmm |
| 03:42.05 | Inside | I see.. hmm |
| 03:42.06 | malreth | so there's no solid answer |
| 03:42.32 | malreth | but... if you look at the code for AceComm-2.0, there's chat throttling code in there |
| 03:42.39 | malreth | probably a good basis to work off of |
| 03:43.08 | malreth | you can get that from the Ace2 package |
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| 03:43.25 | malreth | available at wowinterface.com or from wowace.com |
| 03:43.36 | Shadowed | Order now! |
| 03:43.52 | Inside | Only 3 easy payments of $19.95 + soul tax |
| 03:43.56 | malreth | for some reason, the phrase '8000 chars per second' comes to mind |
| 03:44.22 | malreth | but i don't know why... i may have heard that from some loon |
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| 03:49.07 | malreth | booo... no beta key yet... no svn account, either |
| 03:49.15 | malreth | i blame... oh, tekkub. |
| 03:49.53 | Shadowed | believe cair said we'd have them Tuesday |
| 03:50.06 | Cairenn | tekkub is a good one to blame, since the bitch will never come hang out over here |
| 03:50.29 | Shadowed | ~tekkub |
| 03:50.33 | purl | i heard tekkub is a furry pervert |
| 03:50.38 | malreth | he is... |
| 03:50.42 | Shadowed | ....well that doesn't explain much |
| 03:50.43 | Cairenn | he is |
| 03:50.52 | Cairenn | oh yes it does |
| 03:50.52 | malreth | no... that's what you need to know. |
| 03:51.05 | Shadowed | explain! |
| 03:51.11 | malreth | ~wiki furries |
| 03:51.28 | Cairenn | he's a cub |
| 03:51.30 | Shadowed | ah |
| 03:51.40 | Shadowed | so who is tekkub then :p |
| 03:51.49 | Cairenn | hangs out over in the ace channel |
| 03:51.51 | Inside | OH MY GOD FURRIES |
| 03:51.52 | Cairenn | one of the main devs |
| 03:51.55 | Shadowed | ah |
| 03:51.59 | malreth | hmm... heard of PerfectTargets? |
| 03:52.06 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 03:52.09 | Cairenn | that's clad, not tek |
| 03:52.10 | malreth | he wrote it |
| 03:52.17 | Cairenn | oh crap, nm me |
| 03:52.19 | malreth | clad wrote perfect raid |
| 03:52.20 | Shadowed | i see |
| 03:52.22 | Cairenn | perfect raid = clad |
| 03:52.24 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:53.58 | malreth | tekkub also wrote MountMe (*snicker*) |
| 03:54.10 | malreth | and a few dev support addons like tekSupport |
| 03:54.51 | malreth | and some libs... SpecialEvents... PeriodicTable |
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| 04:05.49 | Inside | hmm |
| 04:06.02 | Inside | There's no table randomization built into the lua library, is there =| |
| 04:07.01 | malreth | hmm? |
| 04:07.09 | malreth | you mean scrambling the contents of a table? |
| 04:07.11 | Inside | er, no way to randomize a table? |
| 04:07.12 | Inside | Yeah |
| 04:07.21 | Inside | useful for oh.. cardgame <.< |
| 04:07.22 | malreth | no. |
| 04:07.27 | Inside | Off to google it is then |
| 04:11.48 | Inside | I guess a simple way is to just do randomly remove a card from the table of cards and stick it into a new table >_> |
| 04:12.20 | malreth | if you use table.remove, it'll be slow |
| 04:12.38 | Inside | Only need it to be done once per game anyway |
| 04:13.51 | Inside | I'll hack it this way and improve it later. |
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| 04:17.06 | SP|Sorren | can you pass things by reference? like local blah; somefunction(blah); blah==newValue? |
| 04:17.45 | Inside | Um, I think that's called a closure or something |
| 04:17.57 | Inside | er.. |
| 04:18.07 | Inside | I forget, sorry. |
| 04:18.19 | Inside | I havent' done lua for two months since WoW sucked my soul out. |
| 04:18.24 | Inside | But now! I can do both |
| 04:18.32 | SP|Sorren | lol |
| 04:18.41 | MentalPower | SP|Sorren: Lua passes by reference everything except booleans and itegers |
| 04:18.53 | SP|Sorren | strange |
| 04:18.59 | malreth | what about strings? |
| 04:19.00 | SP|Sorren | it doesnt seem to work that way |
| 04:19.04 | MentalPower | strings too |
| 04:19.14 | MentalPower | but strings are inmutable |
| 04:20.53 | malreth | Lua 5.1.1 Copyright (C) 1994-2006 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 04:20.54 | malreth | > blah = "i am a banana" |
| 04:20.54 | malreth | > function foo(bar) |
| 04:20.54 | malreth | >> bar = "my spoon is too big" |
| 04:20.54 | malreth | >> end |
| 04:20.54 | malreth | > foo(blah) |
| 04:20.56 | malreth | > print(blah) |
| 04:20.58 | malreth | i am a banana |
| 04:21.00 | malreth | > |
| 04:21.37 | SP|Sorren | ;o |
| 04:21.40 | malreth | and inmutable means mutable! |
| 04:21.56 | malreth | you meant immutable. :p |
| 04:22.06 | malreth | what a country! |
| 04:22.13 | MentalPower | w/e |
| 04:22.36 | MentalPower | malreth: that function does exactly what you asked it to |
| 04:22.47 | malreth | yep... nothing |
| 04:23.16 | SP|Sorren | how would you get a function like that to change blah then when you pass it |
| 04:23.23 | Inside | I long for a language where I can do this.. |
| 04:23.32 | Inside | 7.setvalue("Banana"); |
| 04:23.38 | ckknight | malreth, thoseare just reference things. |
| 04:23.42 | Inside | 10.setvalue("I am a"); |
| 04:23.52 | Inside | and then do print(7+10) and you get "I am a banana" |
| 04:24.00 | SP|Sorren | lol |
| 04:24.05 | ckknight | malreth, basically, bar becomes localized, and thus not a reference, so it's harder to deal with. |
| 04:24.07 | Inside | Multiplication and division will get a bit hairy, but whatever. |
| 04:24.15 | ckknight | so by changing bar, you are changing the local reference. |
| 04:24.22 | SP|Sorren | how would you get it unlocalized? :< |
| 04:24.28 | ckknight | Inside, that is _horrible_ |
| 04:24.31 | malreth | oh, i know what was going to happen |
| 04:24.34 | ckknight | SP|Sorren: |
| 04:24.40 | ckknight | blah = "i am a banana" |
| 04:24.42 | ckknight | function foo() |
| 04:24.49 | ckknight | blah = "my spoon is too big" |
| 04:24.49 | ckknight | end |
| 04:24.55 | ckknight | foo() |
| 04:25.03 | ckknight | print(blah) -- my spoon is too big |
| 04:25.10 | SP|Sorren | :/ |
| 04:25.38 | malreth | or you can wrap the values that you want to pass by reference inside a table and pass that instead |
| 04:26.32 | SP|Sorren | i see |
| 04:26.33 | ckknight | or you could do this: |
| 04:26.44 | malreth | baz = { lamp = blah }; foo(baz) |
| 04:26.45 | ckknight | function foo(t, key) |
| 04:26.52 | ckknight | t[key] = "my spoon is too big" |
| 04:26.53 | ckknight | end |
| 04:26.58 | malreth | ooh |
| 04:26.58 | ckknight | foo(_G, "blah") |
| 04:27.03 | malreth | hahah! |
| 04:27.03 | ckknight | print(blah) -- my spoon is too big |
| 04:27.32 | SP|Sorren | o rly |
| 04:27.37 | malreth | when design principles attack! |
| 04:27.43 | SP|Sorren | ill give that a shot |
| 04:27.47 | malreth | s/principles/patterns/ |
| 04:28.16 | malreth | does wow 2.0 have _G already defined? |
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| 04:28.58 | malreth | it'd be nice if it did.. |
| 04:29.28 | malreth | SP|Sorren: you'll need to do a _G = getfenv(0) somewhere at the top of your script |
| 04:29.41 | ckknight | local _G = getfenv(0) |
| 04:29.44 | malreth | actually, to be safe, you |
| 04:29.45 | ckknight | and you're good |
| 04:29.47 | malreth | yeah... local it |
| 04:30.01 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 04:35.09 | Crackshot | O_o |
| 04:35.14 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44796061&postId=448821872&sid=1#8 |
| 04:35.22 | malreth | i wonder how long i can keep this one going |
| 04:42.38 | SP|Sorren | i actually just set the function to return the new value >.> |
| 04:42.46 | SP|Sorren | which works fine ;p |
| 04:42.58 | malreth | good solution |
| 04:43.01 | malreth | fast and efficient |
| 04:49.05 | Inside | oh crap |
| 04:49.07 | Inside | I just realize something |
| 04:49.08 | Inside | v_v |
| 04:49.19 | Inside | I, as the person who runs the uno game wont be able to fairly participate |
| 04:49.19 | Inside | D: |
| 04:49.28 | Inside | Unless there's some way to hide the outgoing messages with the API |
| 04:50.18 | malreth | ooh... are you trying to make an uno addon in lua for wow? |
| 04:50.24 | Inside | Twa |
| 04:50.25 | Inside | Yes |
| 04:51.16 | malreth | to do what you are talking about properly will require crypto and some study of concepts like mental poker |
| 04:51.24 | Inside | >_>: |
| 04:51.27 | malreth | it can be done... |
| 04:51.34 | Shadowed | Basically |
| 04:51.43 | malreth | a fair and hack-resistant card game |
| 04:51.51 | Shadowed | You can't make the game secure without doing a bunch of extra work, and in the end it's probably not worth it |
| 04:51.54 | malreth | but it requires a lot of work |
| 04:51.55 | Inside | I don't care if people hack it. |
| 04:52.11 | malreth | then by all means, go the insecure route |
| 04:52.15 | Inside | Because then people will easily know when someone is dishonest |
| 04:52.43 | Inside | All I care about is the person who is acting as the uno bot can't see the outgoing message (the exact cards dealt and so on) generated by the bot to the other players. |
| 04:53.22 | malreth | gonna spend time with the fiancee... |
| 04:53.54 | malreth | lemme give you a link here, however |
| 04:54.12 | malreth | http://www.google.com/search?q=policing+online+games&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a |
| 04:54.33 | malreth | amazon links to the book |
| 04:54.38 | malreth | direct links to the publisher |
| 04:54.49 | malreth | and an excerpt of the book from gamasutra |
| 04:55.02 | malreth | Policing Online Games deals with exactly what you're trying to do |
| 04:55.34 | malreth | how to protect data integrity when you can't trust anyone that you're giving it to |
| 04:55.42 | Inside | I don't care about that |
| 04:55.42 | Inside | >_< |
| 04:56.00 | malreth | well, it's still a good read |
| 04:56.05 | Inside | I have read that =P |
| 04:56.15 | malreth | O RLY? |
| 04:56.23 | Inside | Part of the frustration why I'm not working on my 3d multi-player marble madness clone |
| 04:56.36 | malreth | ok... gotta go |
| 04:56.43 | Inside | Anyway, I have this so far -- http://rafb.net/paste/results/vwombz92.html |
| 04:57.38 | Inside | Will deal to player (lines 133-144) do what I want it to do? On line 138-140 I insert to the table hand some cards.. that hand um.. name-identifier reffers to the same hand as the table which is the value in PLAYERCARDS[name] ? |
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| 05:28.56 | SP|Sorren | anyone have a caster on mug'thol? |
| 05:32.11 | Inside | Hmmm |
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| 05:32.34 | Inside | Anyone know how to pipe the output to a certain chat mode (whisper/chat/etc) to a different chat frame? |
| 05:33.25 | SP|Sorren | rightclick the tab on that frame and select that chat mode? |
| 05:33.36 | Inside | through the API :P |
| 05:33.46 | SP|Sorren | oh, nvm ;P |
| 05:36.18 | Esamynn|raiding | that is all done in ChatFrame.lua I believe |
| 05:36.25 | Esamynn|raiding | I don't recall the specifics |
| 05:37.28 | SP|Sorren | bah, stupid missing underscore cost me an hour or so now ;< |
| 05:51.12 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
| 05:51.20 | Esamynn|raiding | night MentalPower |
| 05:52.47 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:52.59 | Esamynn|raiding | night Cairenn|afk |
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| 06:15.41 | Miravlix | Is http://arcdraco.net:8000/ working for anyone else? (Radio station software I'm testing for the fun of it) |
| 06:23.42 | Thunder_Child | works for me |
| 06:24.42 | Miravlix | Hmm, before I start DJ'ing I need to rename all songs |
| 06:24.55 | Thunder_Child | that you singing? |
| 06:25.07 | Miravlix | haha I wish. |
| 06:25.16 | Thunder_Child | i dont |
| 06:25.40 | Miravlix | Red Hot Chili Pepper |
| 06:26.11 | Thunder_Child | na, dont care for them |
| 06:26.37 | Miravlix | But the problem is the song is named 14 - Hey |
| 06:26.56 | Miravlix | Instead of Red Hot Chili Pepper - Hey as a bare minimum |
| 06:29.15 | Inside | Whoo! |
| 06:29.19 | Miravlix | Second problem is that WinAmps shuffler is horrible. |
| 06:29.29 | Inside | Apparently if I orride the ChatFrame_OnEvent, I can capture all of the outgoing events and not display them! Booya. |
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| 06:29.54 | Miravlix | So you made a self censoring addon? |
| 06:30.10 | Inside | Well, I'm only gonna censor outgoing whispers at a certain time. |
| 06:30.23 | Inside | Like.. when my bot is sending to other players what cards they hold :P |
| 06:30.50 | Inside | I don't care if someone can "hack" around it.. because.. I know I wont, I just don't want it to be in plainsight where I'd have to do some excessive mental gymnastics not ot see it. |
| 06:33.11 | Inside | Only problem is.. |
| 06:33.18 | Inside | I'm getting an error all the time =P |
| 06:33.21 | Inside | >_< |
| 06:33.25 | Shadowed | What's the error |
| 06:33.25 | Inside | attemping to call a nil value. |
| 06:33.37 | Shadowed | can you pastey the block of code thats erroring? |
| 06:33.42 | Inside | ChatFrameLua.xml : 1386 |
| 06:33.53 | Inside | er |
| 06:34.02 | Inside | ChatFrame.lua:1376 : Attempted to call a nil value. |
| 06:34.04 | Inside | Joy. |
| 06:34.08 | Shadowed | can you post the hook code you're using? |
| 06:34.59 | Inside | http://rafb.net/paste/results/LoHCwU13.html -- on lines 24-25 I overwrite the ChatFrame_OnEvent with my onevent and in my OnEvent I pass the events to the original ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 06:36.27 | Inside | The AsylumUNO_OnEvent however is at the very bottom |
| 06:36.29 | Shadowed | you can't have two functions with the same name, do you have AsylumUNO_OnEvent called in your XML file? |
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| 06:36.59 | Inside | Yes |
| 06:37.05 | Shadowed | yeah thats your problem |
| 06:37.16 | Inside | What am I doing wrong? |
| 06:37.28 | Shadowed | Change ChatFrame_OnEvent = AsylumUNO_OnEvent; to ChatFrame_OnEvent = AsylumUNO_Chatframe_OnEvent; |
| 06:37.53 | Shadowed | Then add a new function that does your blocking and calls the original ChatFrame_OnEvent in that. |
| 06:38.04 | Inside | hmmm. |
| 06:38.18 | Shadowed | one sec, in an AB game and i'll show you an example of blocking |
| 06:38.52 | Inside | Oh.. I think I see |
| 06:38.53 | Inside | >_> |
| 06:39.16 | Inside | I'll need to just remove my OnEvent from the xml file, right? |
| 06:40.20 | Inside | I think that worked |
| 06:40.26 | Inside | I no longer see the outgoing messages I'm sending :) |
| 06:40.46 | Shadowed | Can you see outgoing whispers that you send to people normally? |
| 06:40.50 | Inside | No |
| 06:41.01 | Inside | But that's because I don't have the code for that |
| 06:41.11 | Inside | er rather.. to flag which stuff can go out and which can't |
| 06:41.21 | Inside | (that I can see/can't see) |
| 06:41.28 | Inside | function AsylumUNO_WhisperSent(event) |
| 06:41.29 | Inside | AsylumUNO_ConsoleMessage("Didn't display whisper ooomessage"); |
| 06:41.29 | Inside | end |
| 06:41.37 | Inside | But I do get that so I know that it's blocking. |
| 06:41.42 | Shadowed | Typically, when you do whisper blocking you prefix your messages with something unique. For example [UNO], so any message that starts with [UNO] that whisper is never seen |
| 06:41.53 | Inside | That's what I think I'll do :P |
| 06:42.02 | Inside | Will this make that text not seen anywhere? |
| 06:42.05 | Inside | In any chat window? |
| 06:42.17 | Shadowed | yeah, it wont show in any chat window |
| 06:42.27 | Inside | excellent :D Now to continue on.. |
| 06:43.31 | Shadowed | http://pastey.net/2128 thats an example of how to block any whispers so you wont see them being sent or received if they start with [BW] |
| 06:44.04 | Inside | I need to learn how pattern matching works >_> |
| 06:44.29 | Inside | I was just using substrings instead of patterns to do that. |
| 06:44.45 | Shadowed | you could use substrings to if you wanted |
| 06:44.50 | Tem_ | if you're doing a static compare, you might as well use a substring |
| 06:44.54 | Inside | Heh |
| 06:45.05 | Inside | No, I mean just over all, I've avoided using them um.. always. |
| 06:45.19 | Tem_ | if string.sub(arg1,0,2) == "[BW]" then ... |
| 06:45.24 | Shadowed | I happen to be lazy |
| 06:45.31 | Shadowed | it's easier to type out string.find then type out string.sub! |
| 06:45.38 | Tem_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.40 | Inside | Otherway for me :P |
| 06:45.59 | Inside | I go "Eh, too lazy to wade through regex documentation".. |
| 06:46.02 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 06:47.37 | Tem_ | it's basically the same as other regex |
| 06:47.42 | Tem_ | just use % instead of \ |
| 06:47.44 | Inside | Which I have never learned |
| 06:47.45 | Inside | :D |
| 06:47.48 | Thunder_Child | is there a lightwieght mod for item prices in the tooltip? |
| 06:49.16 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
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| 07:08.13 | Inside | Sigh |
| 07:08.15 | Inside | a problem now >__> |
| 07:09.09 | Shadowed | ? |
| 07:10.01 | Inside | Well, like if I type ~join game in chat.. um, it joins me and then my bot starts spamming that I'm already in the game XD |
| 07:10.33 | Esamynn|raiding | night all |
| 07:10.36 | Inside | Night! |
| 07:10.37 | Inside | < |
| 07:10.37 | Inside | <3 |
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| 07:23.08 | GremWarsong | Someone tell me a cool idea for a mod that everyone would download if it were made =) |
| 07:23.57 | Shadowed | live file I/O |
| 07:24.05 | Inside | An internet browser |
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| 07:24.53 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 07:24.56 | GremWarsong | How about something remotely possible |
| 07:25.07 | Inside | Go |
| 07:25.11 | Inside | Program a go game |
| 07:25.11 | Inside | :D |
| 07:25.14 | GremWarsong | I have live file IO |
| 07:25.15 | Inside | fuck win |
| 07:25.19 | Inside | I'm making checkers after this |
| 07:25.24 | GremWarsong | Hey, that's a cool idea |
| 07:25.40 | GremWarsong | I asked you for an idea |
| 07:25.47 | Inside | Hah! |
| 07:25.53 | axxo | very nice ignore system - ignore wispers from not guild/party/raid below lvl 10, ignore chat that match regexes (gmworker,freeg old), .. |
| 07:26.05 | Inside | WoW(c)(tm)(r) Checkers(tm)(r)2006 Inside |
| 07:29.11 | Inside | Devise an addon |
| 07:29.16 | Inside | some sort of a social networking thing |
| 07:29.22 | Inside | where you can share info between players about other players |
| 07:29.30 | axxo | no! do mine |
| 07:29.51 | Inside | so if you party with someone, you can give him a rating and then when you party with someone who has the addon as well, that information will be transmited to them. |
| 07:29.52 | GremWarsong | I was thinking that Inside |
| 07:30.04 | Garoun|Loupana | only thing I'm missing and would like, would be a node sound if a node I can harvest pops up on my minimap |
| 07:30.05 | GremWarsong | I was afraid of Blizzard's wrath on social networks though |
| 07:30.12 | Inside | how's that? |
| 07:30.12 | Garoun|Loupana | which I don't think is possible |
| 07:30.47 | GremWarsong | Social networks = bandwidth pain to Bliz |
| 07:30.52 | GremWarsong | depending on the network popularity |
| 07:30.56 | Inside | ell |
| 07:30.58 | Inside | well |
| 07:31.05 | Inside | there's already a social networking gatherer mod in the works |
| 07:31.14 | GremWarsong | How does that work? |
| 07:31.31 | ckknight_ | live file IO? |
| 07:31.33 | Inside | there's a hidden addon channel that shares the information between people in party/guild/raid/etc |
| 07:31.47 | GremWarsong | ckknight, I have a barcode |
| 07:31.58 | ckknight_ | barcode? |
| 07:32.02 | GremWarsong | Yes |
| 07:32.07 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 07:32.08 | Shadowed | ckknight: joking |
| 07:32.12 | GremWarsong | I wasnt joking =) |
| 07:32.43 | GremWarsong | I draw a barcode to the corner of the screen, an external program constantly prints the screen and reads it as data |
| 07:32.51 | Inside | for.. what? |
| 07:32.52 | Inside | 0_o |
| 07:32.58 | Inside | oh, external IO? |
| 07:32.59 | GremWarsong | Exporting data that I feel like exporting |
| 07:33.01 | GremWarsong | yeah |
| 07:33.06 | Inside | uh.. that could ugly |
| 07:33.13 | GremWarsong | Its very ugly |
| 07:33.16 | GremWarsong | But it works |
| 07:33.22 | Inside | I mean ugly with blizzard |
| 07:33.28 | ckknight | that's not... good |
| 07:33.36 | GremWarsong | I know |
| 07:33.43 | GremWarsong | It was a discussion we had in here long ago |
| 07:33.47 | GremWarsong | and I wanted to see if it was possible |
| 07:33.57 | GremWarsong | ckknight was present at that conversation =P |
| 07:34.04 | ckknight | possibly. |
| 07:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Awfully expensive way of exporting live data |
| 07:34.23 | GremWarsong | Yes |
| 07:34.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Those readers are not cheap |
| 07:34.29 | GremWarsong | I made my own reader |
| 07:34.36 | Inside | c_c |
| 07:34.37 | Inside | hmm |
| 07:35.04 | GremWarsong | This is off topic |
| 07:35.14 | GremWarsong | Back to 'cool mods that everyone would get' |
| 07:36.08 | Garoun|Loupana | like sound effects when a node pops up |
| 07:36.13 | GremWarsong | are there any 'mini-game' mods out there? |
| 07:36.30 | GremWarsong | checkers or chess would be easy to implement |
| 07:36.56 | axxo | there is a poker, tetris |
| 07:37.02 | GremWarsong | tetris already exists? |
| 07:37.14 | axxo | it does, but not maintained a bit broken |
| 07:37.19 | axxo | but i've played it alot |
| 07:37.30 | GremWarsong | Nice |
| 07:38.15 | axxo | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1622 |
| 07:39.17 | GremWarsong | that tetris one looks insane |
| 07:39.22 | GremWarsong | you can even design your own blocks |
| 07:39.23 | GremWarsong | Who the hell |
| 07:39.29 | GremWarsong | ...im not going to say anything |
| 07:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously, Mr. Barcode :P |
| 07:39.59 | GremWarsong | That tetris would be way harder |
| 07:41.03 | Inside | asdf |
| 07:41.04 | Inside | errors |
| 07:41.05 | GremWarsong | I didnt expect them to make it that detailed |
| 07:41.07 | Inside | ugh /wrists |
| 07:41.13 | axxo | make a chat ignore system damnit! |
| 07:41.20 | GremWarsong | That has to exist |
| 07:41.27 | axxo | thats what i thought |
| 07:41.28 | axxo | but it doesn't |
| 07:41.48 | Inside | Like no /ignore system, right? |
| 07:41.49 | Inside | >_> |
| 07:41.51 | axxo | except to basic ones, that still ignore by name |
| 07:41.57 | axxo | i want ignore by regex |
| 07:42.06 | axxo | or just by text |
| 07:42.09 | Inside | That doesn't sound very hard |
| 07:42.09 | Inside | c_c |
| 07:42.18 | axxo | 'free gold' 'g m w o r k e r' get out! |
| 07:42.18 | GremWarsong | ignore by text? |
| 07:42.22 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 07:42.37 | Inside | I just came upon a mod called "Take back LFG" that filters everything out of LFG that doesn't have "LFG" or "LFM" in the string |
| 07:42.47 | Inside | Really fucking stupid, imho, I never type LFM when looking for people. |
| 07:42.54 | axxo | you should :) |
| 07:43.05 | axxo | since they made it spam channel |
| 07:43.10 | Inside | No, I don't want to party with self righteous cocks like that :O |
| 07:43.19 | Inside | Well, I'me one of those LFG spammers :P |
| 07:43.20 | Inside | >_> |
| 07:44.24 | Inside | Also, the API documentation must be wrong or /something/ asdf. |
| 07:44.32 | GremWarsong | asdf? |
| 07:44.37 | Inside | yes |
| 07:44.37 | Inside | asdf |
| 07:44.38 | GremWarsong | whats the problem? |
| 07:44.59 | Inside | arg1 under the CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM is not the text of the message |
| 07:45.08 | GremWarsong | wtf is whisper_inform |
| 07:45.33 | Shadowed | When you send a whisper |
| 07:46.27 | GremWarsong | ah |
| 07:48.00 | Tem_ | kind of an "oh, by the way..." |
| 07:48.22 | Inside | http://rafb.net/paste/results/J8sPmw46.html |
| 07:48.52 | Inside | well.. |
| 07:48.56 | Inside | arg1 does return the message text. |
| 07:49.00 | Inside | rather, contains the message text. |
| 07:49.42 | Tem_ | and you don't error out the ass with all those concats that are potentially nil? |
| 07:49.50 | Inside | nope |
| 07:49.59 | Tem_ | grats |
| 07:50.26 | Tem_ | so what's the contents of arg1? |
| 07:50.28 | Shadowed | So, anyone have a suggestion for 18 -> 21 leveling! |
| 07:50.41 | GremWarsong | A or H? |
| 07:50.47 | Inside | whatever the message is.. I guess |
| 07:50.49 | Tem_ | Shadowed, race? |
| 07:50.52 | Inside | I'm just sending "test" >_> |
| 07:50.59 | Tem_ | Inside, be more specific |
| 07:50.59 | Shadowed | no, i just don't remember where to level 18 -> 21 in |
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| 07:51.03 | Tem_ | what i the problem |
| 07:51.09 | GremWarsong | alliance or horde shadowed? |
| 07:51.10 | Tem_ | s/i/is/ |
| 07:51.31 | Inside | The error is in um... ChatFrame.lua :1369 Bad Parameter to strsub argument #1 expected string got nil |
| 07:51.37 | Shadowed | Alliance |
| 07:51.47 | GremWarsong | Redridge ftw |
| 07:51.49 | Tem_ | Shadowed, Redridge |
| 07:52.03 | Shadowed | hrm, redridge only seemed decent for 20/21, will have to check it out again |
| 07:52.09 | Shadowed | If you get a ChatFrame error it means you're not hooking or calling your hook correctly |
| 07:52.12 | GremWarsong | try Loch Modan then |
| 07:52.17 | Tem_ | aye |
| 07:52.18 | GremWarsong | southern Loch Modan |
| 07:52.21 | Inside | I don't think I am >_> |
| 07:52.37 | Tem_ | (I was agreeing with Shadowed) |
| 07:54.28 | Tem_ | you are passing nil as the event |
| 07:54.43 | Tem_ | how is your event handler declared? |
| 07:55.03 | Tem_ | or rather, how is it tied to the frame? |
| 07:55.07 | Tem_ | XML or lua? |
| 07:55.20 | Inside | well |
| 07:56.12 | Tem_ | (did you do <Scripts> <OnEvent> AsylumUNO_WhisperSent(event) </OnEvent> </Scripts> or myFrame:SetScript("OnEvent",ThatFuncthatIdon'twannatypeagain)?) |
| 07:56.34 | Inside | http://rafb.net/paste/results/nCg8FX43.html |
| 07:56.39 | Inside | are the relevant bits |
| 07:56.47 | Inside | AsylumUNO_OnEvent is in the XML file.. |
| 07:57.13 | GremWarsong | Are there any programs out there that can sorta 'encrypt' your mod? |
| 07:57.21 | Inside | mm |
| 07:57.28 | Inside | I think lua comes with a um.. |
| 07:57.34 | Shadowed | GremWarsong: Don't bother |
| 07:57.38 | Inside | well, it can write it as bytecode to a file |
| 07:57.41 | GremWarsong | Why Shadowed? |
| 07:57.43 | Inside | but that's easily dissambleable |
| 07:57.57 | GremWarsong | dissassembled into readable code? |
| 07:58.00 | Tem_ | yes |
| 07:58.08 | Tem_ | also, wow's loadstring won't read bytecode |
| 07:58.10 | GremWarsong | I mean, by encrypt, make it 'unmaintainable' |
| 07:58.12 | Tem_ | (intentionally) |
| 07:58.16 | Inside | oh.. |
| 07:58.19 | Tem_ | GremWarsong, can I punch you? |
| 07:58.21 | Tem_ | please? |
| 07:58.24 | Inside | well than failed! |
| 07:58.27 | GremWarsong | Why? =( |
| 07:58.31 | Tem_ | like, in the face perhaps |
| 07:58.36 | Inside | You can obfuscate it beyond recognition |
| 07:58.36 | Inside | :D |
| 07:58.43 | Tem_ | obfuscation is bad, mkay |
| 07:58.44 | GremWarsong | yeah Inside, but is there a program to do that? |
| 07:58.46 | GremWarsong | Haha |
| 07:58.49 | Inside | Why? |
| 07:59.02 | GremWarsong | I want a program that puts everything on one line and renames the functions/variables |
| 07:59.03 | Tem_ | because it does some really fucking dumb things |
| 07:59.11 | Inside | You can't rename functions/variables |
| 07:59.12 | Tem_ | take for example the thottbot plugin |
| 07:59.21 | GremWarsong | Because there's a lot of mod authors that would prefer to protect their work |
| 07:59.26 | Tem_ | there is seriously a global variable named TTTTTTTT |
| 07:59.31 | Shadowed | If you want to protect your work, don't work in code thats plain text |
| 07:59.37 | Tem_ | GREM, DONT FUCKING GO THERE |
| 07:59.40 | Tem_ | just... don't |
| 07:59.58 | Inside | Uh, you're writing a UI for a game that.. yeah.. and distributing it for free to... hundreds of people.. |
| 08:00.07 | GremWarsong | I know |
| 08:00.15 | Inside | GPL it :P |
| 08:00.17 | Tem_ | If you **must** include a liscense |
| 08:00.30 | GremWarsong | I didnt say id use it |
| 08:00.33 | GremWarsong | I just want to make something |
| 08:00.35 | GremWarsong | That people use |
| 08:00.39 | Tem_ | NO |
| 08:00.44 | Tem_ | NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO |
| 08:00.45 | GremWarsong | But that would probably damage the community |
| 08:00.54 | Tem_ | ugh this is fucking dumb. I need to either be asleep or studying |
| 08:00.57 | GremWarsong | Okay okay, calm down, thinking of new idea |
| 08:00.58 | Inside | XD |
| 08:00.59 | Tem_ | neither of those include the lounge |
| 08:01.03 | Inside | Tem_! Help me :P |
| 08:01.11 | Shadowed | night Tem |
| 08:01.16 | GremWarsong | Tem I value you your sanity |
| 08:01.23 | Shadowed | Basically, what Tem is saying is |
| 08:01.26 | GremWarsong | I didnt type that right |
| 08:01.41 | Tem_ | Inside, I really think something is up with your hook |
| 08:01.48 | Inside | I think so too :P |
| 08:01.52 | Shadowed | If somebody *truely* wants to steal code, no amount of obfuscation and so on will help it |
| 08:01.58 | Inside | I've been doing this only 3 hours though so I have no clue what to do. |
| 08:02.05 | GremWarsong | I dunno Shadowed =) |
| 08:02.08 | Inside | Honestly, I god started coding earlier today by digging through somebody else's code |
| 08:02.17 | Inside | And it was useful since it covered the basics that I needed to know. |
| 08:02.23 | Tem_ | oh Inside |
| 08:02.25 | Tem_ | found your bug |
| 08:02.29 | Tem_ | line 34 |
| 08:02.38 | Tem_ | you aren't passing event to your WhisperSent function |
| 08:02.39 | Shadowed | GremWarsong: If I truely wanted to steal your code, I could spend the time and basically re-code it. But that's pointless |
| 08:02.43 | Inside | oh fuck me |
| 08:02.44 | Inside | I see it now |
| 08:02.45 | Inside | '_' |
| 08:02.57 | Tem_ | which means you're passing nil to the original function |
| 08:03.04 | Tem_ | so it chokes when it tires to gsub it |
| 08:03.12 | GremWarsong | Yeah yeah Shadowed |
| 08:03.15 | GremWarsong | Man, I just want to make something cool |
| 08:03.25 | GremWarsong | Every mod and it's mother has been made |
| 08:03.32 | Tem_ | not true |
| 08:03.32 | GremWarsong | That's depressing |
| 08:03.40 | GremWarsong | Programming is becoming too mainstream |
| 08:03.45 | Shadowed | If your only goal is to be popular, you're doomed to failure |
| 08:03.49 | Tem_ | I still have a few ideas for "stuff I want to do" that other people haven't thought of |
| 08:04.05 | GremWarsong | Not so much popular as creating a mod that 'everyone uses' |
| 08:04.07 | Tem_ | though, my two coolest ideas are now implemented by someone else :( |
| 08:04.16 | Tem_ | GremWarsong, I have to agree with Shadowed |
| 08:04.35 | GremWarsong | I dont care about personal popularity, I want to make a mod that a shit-ton of people use |
| 08:04.42 | Shadowed | Thats popularity :p |
| 08:04.44 | GremWarsong | Unless that's what you're referring to |
| 08:04.45 | Tem_ | if you're doing this to 'get pseudo-famous' you will fail |
| 08:04.45 | GremWarsong | Haha |
| 08:04.55 | GremWarsong | I dont even care if my name is on it |
| 08:05.01 | GremWarsong | I just want mass mod distribution of something useful |
| 08:05.01 | Tem_ | not the point |
| 08:05.12 | Inside | Programming is a thankless chore |
| 08:05.13 | Shadowed | Just because somebodys made something doesn't mean you can't do it better anyway. I did SSPVP with both BGAssist and BGSomething out, and it still managed to become about ( or maybe more ) popular. |
| 08:05.28 | GremWarsong | Yes, those BG mods are the newest trend |
| 08:05.36 | Shadowed | I did SSPVp like a year ago :p |
| 08:05.44 | GremWarsong | I thought of doing something like that about 4 days after everyone in the game had a mod that already did it |
| 08:05.47 | GremWarsong | That makes me sad |
| 08:05.54 | Tem_ | *shrug* |
| 08:06.01 | Tem_ | write for yourself |
| 08:06.06 | Shadowed | point being, you don't need to make something that nobody else has done to make the mod popular. |
| 08:06.08 | Tem_ | if someone else happens to find it useful, all the better |
| 08:06.09 | GremWarsong | That's not what I want to do |
| 08:06.11 | Inside | You know why I'm writing uno? Cause I love uno |
| 08:06.12 | Inside | XD |
| 08:06.18 | Inside | I probably wont even release the mod. |
| 08:06.20 | GremWarsong | Ive already done the things I like |
| 08:06.28 | GremWarsong | I havent released anything, I want to release something useful |
| 08:06.34 | GremWarsong | Not just something that I think is kinda neat |
| 08:06.47 | Tem_ | or possibly on a hamster wheel |
| 08:06.48 | Shadowed | GremWarsong: It comes down to this. You'll never be able to make something that everyone loves when you're TRYING to make them like it |
| 08:06.59 | GremWarsong | Trying to make them like it? |
| 08:07.20 | GremWarsong | Generally, the concept is to create a mod that generates such a 'service' to the player |
| 08:08.00 | Shadowed | I don't think anyone whos made a popular mod originally though "I want to make something that'll become popular" |
| 08:08.16 | Inside | I doubt that |
| 08:08.19 | GremWarsong | Well maybe all-the-better with a positive attitude and goal? |
| 08:08.23 | Inside | but let's not let my opinion get in the way. |
| 08:08.35 | GremWarsong | After I was introduced to Tetris mod 30 minutes ago, I realized almost all hope was lost |
| 08:08.45 | Inside | There's no uno mod yet |
| 08:08.45 | Inside | <3 |
| 08:08.48 | Inside | .. well.. yet.. |
| 08:08.49 | Inside | >_> |
| 08:09.00 | Inside | my three minutes of googling turned up nothing similar. |
| 08:09.10 | GremWarsong | People dont log into an MMORPG they pay monthly fees for to play a card game, usually |
| 08:09.13 | Shadowed | do what Tem said. Code something because you want to, you'll have a lot more fun and get more satisfaction doing it then you will trying to make something to become popular |
| 08:09.26 | Shadowed | Industrial: theres no Uno mod as far as i know |
| 08:09.28 | GremWarsong | Well Shadowed, I kinda wanted to find a combination of the two |
| 08:09.31 | axxo | IGNORE SYSTEM! |
| 08:09.33 | Inside | I'm Inside, damnit :< |
| 08:09.47 | Tem|Sleep | too many damned 'I' people |
| 08:09.49 | GremWarsong | I wanted to create a mod that I enjoy while visualizing that it creates such a service to the players that they will have to have it |
| 08:09.52 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 08:09.54 | Shadowed | agreed |
| 08:10.01 | Shadowed | You can't make an ignore system that checks players level anyway :p |
| 08:10.07 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:10.08 | Inside | GremWarsong: You'd be surprised. The number #1 gripe on the FFXI forums is that people say "There's nothing fucking that's not-game world related to do. I DONT WANT TO RACE CHOCOBOS GOD DAMNIT" |
| 08:10.19 | GremWarsong | Yeah, that's true |
| 08:10.27 | GremWarsong | I was being mostly sarcastic when I said that |
| 08:10.29 | Inside | :P |
| 08:10.30 | Shadowed | well, I guess technically you could add people to the friends list to get level. But that'd require them to have one open friends slot, and hope the server doesn't lag |
| 08:10.31 | GremWarsong | Id love to play Tetris and shit on my griffon rides |
| 08:10.56 | Thunder_Child | i watch inflight movies on my rides |
| 08:10.57 | Inside | Hell, code some sort of a system that um... ... an FPS |
| 08:11.05 | GremWarsong | uh? |
| 08:11.05 | Inside | 0_o |
| 08:11.08 | Inside | Yes.. an FPS. |
| 08:11.22 | Thunder_Child | tab to a movie |
| 08:11.22 | GremWarsong | An in-game pseudo 3d ray-casted FPS in a mini-window? |
| 08:11.39 | GremWarsong | what does FPS stand for? |
| 08:11.39 | GremWarsong | haha |
| 08:11.40 | Inside | not mini-window, uses the real game window. |
| 08:11.43 | Inside | first person shooter |
| 08:11.48 | Thunder_Child | frames per second |
| 08:11.49 | GremWarsong | I was hoping you didnt mean that |
| 08:11.53 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 08:11.55 | Inside | Hell dude, that'd kick ass :P |
| 08:12.03 | Thunder_Child | get the correct FPS damit |
| 08:12.08 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:12.08 | Inside | Use the addon channel to send data through like "BAM! You're dead :P" |
| 08:12.18 | GremWarsong | Inside, that's the worst idea ever |
| 08:12.22 | Inside | Hell no |
| 08:12.29 | Inside | You and your limited thinking. |
| 08:12.34 | GremWarsong | haha |
| 08:12.40 | GremWarsong | How would I render bullets? |
| 08:12.40 | Inside | That's why you can't come up with a popular mod idea |
| 08:12.56 | Inside | Because you underestimate the stupidness/easily amusedness of people. |
| 08:13.21 | GremWarsong | Yeah, unfortunately the concept is virtually impossible by multiple scopes of the imagination |
| 08:13.50 | Inside | Well, can you not get the pitch/orientation of the camera? |
| 08:13.57 | GremWarsong | no |
| 08:14.19 | GremWarsong | You're making my brain think of the most horrible things |
| 08:14.25 | GremWarsong | It would be such a horrible mod |
| 08:14.32 | Inside | Counter strike was a horrible mod |
| 08:14.36 | Inside | Most popular game EVAR, however. |
| 08:14.42 | GremWarsong | I visualized bullets as resizing textures |
| 08:14.48 | GremWarsong | based on the distance of the player |
| 08:14.54 | Inside | Hell |
| 08:14.56 | Inside | Make a packman mod |
| 08:15.09 | Inside | Where you're packman and you're getting little pellets drawn on the screen |
| 08:15.09 | Inside | <_< |
| 08:15.20 | GremWarsong | that minigame idea is actually pretty cool sounding |
| 08:15.33 | GremWarsong | But if it were multiplayer at all, people could cheat probably |
| 08:15.36 | Inside | and you actually have to move around to pick em up <_< |
| 08:15.45 | Inside | You can never prevent multiplayer cheating |
| 08:15.53 | Inside | Well you can, by using dumb terminals/vnc/etc |
| 08:15.57 | Inside | but that's prohibitive for the time being. |
| 08:16.29 | Inside | Like that whole end-game guild that changed their instance level files to open up holes that they could jump to the final boss wirth |
| 08:16.30 | Inside | with |
| 08:16.38 | GremWarsong | ol |
| 08:16.48 | Inside | I have to say is ZOMG Client-side authority on location? |
| 08:16.56 | Inside | All I have to.. |
| 08:17.03 | GremWarsong | That's a lot of work, sometimes |
| 08:18.02 | GremWarsong | Not everything is client-side |
| 08:18.09 | GremWarsong | some of the architecture has server-side checks |
| 08:18.10 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:18.26 | Shadowed | People don't care about others who can cheat at games |
| 08:18.54 | Shadowed | you aren't going to ask some random person "Want to play Uno" chances are it's a guildie or someone you've known for a while and you're bored waiting for something like a BG queue |
| 08:19.08 | GremWarsong | Id pwn all my guildies by cheating at uno |
| 08:19.10 | GremWarsong | that's what the fun would be |
| 08:19.15 | GremWarsong | people would make uno hack mods |
| 08:19.36 | GremWarsong | Then again, im a moron |
| 08:19.44 | Inside | The thing is, the only person who can hack at my uno is the person who is hosting the game |
| 08:19.47 | Inside | since it's text based |
| 08:19.49 | Shadowed | I think you're overestimating how much people want to hack it |
| 08:19.56 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 08:20.06 | Inside | and once you've figured out which game-hosts are untrustworthy, you ignore em |
| 08:20.11 | Shadowed | exactly |
| 08:20.22 | Inside | only takes a few games to get the feeling "Hmmm.. that dood can see all my cards and anticipates every move" |
| 08:20.27 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:21.39 | GremWarsong | Okay, well the mini-game concept is kinda cool |
| 08:21.48 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 08:21.59 | Inside | Anything minigame that has a simple strategy but like.. infinite replay value is cool. |
| 08:22.04 | Inside | Make a bejewelled clone |
| 08:22.15 | GremWarsong | I dont really want to make a mini-game |
| 08:22.16 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:22.21 | Inside | Well |
| 08:22.25 | GremWarsong | I kinda wanted to make Tetris |
| 08:22.31 | Inside | You could do the whole viral social networking thing |
| 08:22.31 | GremWarsong | But scratch that |
| 08:22.34 | AnduinLothar | I just have to say. Vynn is awesome. And even if you don't know who vynn is.... just know.. that's he's awesome! |
| 08:22.35 | axxo | maintain that tetris mdo |
| 08:22.38 | GremWarsong | And get it shut down by Blizzard |
| 08:22.41 | GremWarsong | lets talk about social networks |
| 08:22.42 | Shadowed | ~vynn |
| 08:22.51 | GremWarsong | And Blizzard's inevitable wrath against massive data streams |
| 08:22.52 | Shadowed | If purl doesn't know him, he's not awesome |
| 08:23.04 | Inside | ~anduinlothra |
| 08:23.05 | Inside | ~anduinlothar |
| 08:23.06 | purl | Rumor has it, he likes big thick tauren polearms and lowhangin' Rocky Mtn Oysters |
| 08:23.06 | Thunder_Child | they have tetris already |
| 08:23.06 | AnduinLothar | no no. purl is not nearly as awesome as vynn |
| 08:23.11 | Inside | 0_o |
| 08:23.30 | Shadowed | you could do tetris pretty easly without that much traffic actually |
| 08:23.37 | GremWarsong | Im not talking about that |
| 08:23.40 | Inside | He's all emo since someone already wrote a tetris game |
| 08:23.42 | axxo | blizzard can't even detect ppl yelling GMWORKER FREE GOLD for hours and hours |
| 08:23.43 | GremWarsong | Im talking about social networks |
| 08:23.51 | GremWarsong | Im sure they do axxo |
| 08:23.56 | axxo | they don't. |
| 08:23.57 | Inside | what about guild map? |
| 08:23.59 | GremWarsong | But im sure there is worse spam out there through ADDON channels |
| 08:24.06 | GremWarsong | guild map exists |
| 08:24.09 | Inside | Guild map sends updates like that ALL THE TIME. |
| 08:24.13 | GremWarsong | oh |
| 08:24.13 | GremWarsong | yeah |
| 08:24.16 | Shadowed | What's guild map do? |
| 08:24.24 | GremWarsong | Shares location of all guild members on world map |
| 08:24.29 | Inside | It tells everyone in the guild who's on the addon channel .. yeah... worldm ap |
| 08:24.42 | Inside | I imagine each client on the guild map transmits really really frequently. |
| 08:24.55 | Inside | considering how the info is sent to every single client, regardless if they have guildmap or not. |
| 08:24.57 | Thunder_Child | GEM is worse with spam |
| 08:24.57 | Inside | (I think..?) |
| 08:24.57 | GremWarsong | I made a tell-bot |
| 08:25.13 | Shadowed | yeah....thats a bit spammy |
| 08:25.14 | GremWarsong | I was going to test how many tells I could send and how frequently before Blizzard raped me |
| 08:25.26 | Inside | Make sure to get the $2.95 14-day trial |
| 08:25.27 | Shadowed | GEM = ? |
| 08:25.27 | Inside | ^_^ |
| 08:25.32 | GremWarsong | doesnt work Inside |
| 08:25.33 | GremWarsong | I tried it |
| 08:25.34 | Shadowed | they wont ban you for spamming |
| 08:25.37 | Thunder_Child | GremWarsong, they would rape you even w/o the tells |
| 08:25.38 | Shadowed | well |
| 08:25.39 | AnduinLothar | ChatThrottleLib |
| 08:25.39 | GremWarsong | You get stopped after sending 10 tells |
| 08:25.53 | Inside | Yeah |
| 08:25.54 | Thunder_Child | GEM = guildeventmanager |
| 08:25.56 | GremWarsong | what do you mean Thunder? lol |
| 08:25.57 | Inside | 10 lines seems about the most I can spam |
| 08:25.57 | Inside | >_> |
| 08:25.58 | Shadowed | They wouldn't ban you for spamming yourself to test something |
| 08:26.08 | GremWarsong | Not myself |
| 08:26.13 | GremWarsong | I was going to send a tell to every player on the server |
| 08:26.16 | Thunder_Child | Grem...it's blizzard...'nuff said |
| 08:26.17 | GremWarsong | 1 at a time, 1 tell per second |
| 08:26.24 | AnduinLothar | they don't ban you. it's a bandwidth filter, auto-kicks you offline for a few min |
| 08:26.32 | GremWarsong | Ahh, cool |
| 08:26.35 | GremWarsong | So what's the limit? |
| 08:26.42 | AnduinLothar | it's variable |
| 08:26.42 | Inside | Someone was saying 8000 chars/sec |
| 08:26.44 | Inside | SUPPOSEDLY~ |
| 08:26.44 | GremWarsong | characters per second? |
| 08:26.48 | GremWarsong | 8000 per second is insane |
| 08:27.00 | Inside | I dunno compressed, it's only like... |
| 08:27.03 | Inside | 8kbpb/s |
| 08:27.08 | GremWarsong | That's a lot |
| 08:27.09 | AnduinLothar | it's in bytes per second and it includes your game upload |
| 08:27.10 | GremWarsong | That's huge |
| 08:27.19 | GremWarsong | I was expecting like 500 per second as a limit |
| 08:27.25 | AnduinLothar | so it's less when you're doign things |
| 08:27.40 | GremWarsong | Hmm |
| 08:27.41 | GremWarsong | Interesting |
| 08:27.56 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatThrottleLib |
| 08:28.03 | GremWarsong | 8000 per second means I could probably send a tell to everyone on the server within minutes |
| 08:28.30 | AnduinLothar | "3000 CPS will cause a disconnect if sustained for more than a few seconds" |
| 08:28.34 | GremWarsong | That's pretty insane Anduin |
| 08:28.46 | GremWarsong | 1000 characters per second is insane |
| 08:28.50 | GremWarsong | You can send so much data |
| 08:29.00 | AnduinLothar | "ChatThrottleLib will allow bursts of up to 4000 bytes and after that throttle its output to 800 CPS" |
| 08:29.17 | GremWarsong | But here's the thing ... |
| 08:29.18 | Inside | See, your social networking thing can use a lot less. |
| 08:29.23 | Inside | It wont be updating every second. |
| 08:29.24 | GremWarsong | currently, not many mods like that are widely used |
| 08:29.27 | GremWarsong | Well, getting to that |
| 08:29.31 | GremWarsong | if a lot of players are on the social network |
| 08:29.35 | GremWarsong | It would cause more strain |
| 08:29.46 | Inside | The social network is only shared between people in guild/chat/raid group |
| 08:29.46 | GremWarsong | There arent many mods out there that utilize any form of advanced data streaming/sharing |
| 08:29.51 | AnduinLothar | just all use the same lib |
| 08:30.19 | Inside | In a while in a party, you're only sharing info between maybe ~40 other people, that's with a busy guild |
| 08:30.19 | AnduinLothar | CTL is used by the two main hidden chat addons Telepathy and AceComm |
| 08:30.31 | AnduinLothar | and by a bunch of other smaller addons |
| 08:30.33 | Inside | Most of the people in the guild are all really interconnected. |
| 08:30.49 | GremWarsong | No, I would be interested in making a server-wide social network |
| 08:30.53 | GremWarsong | Like a public in-game message board |
| 08:31.02 | Inside | Oh, no way to do that that I know of |
| 08:31.04 | AnduinLothar | use the GlobalComm channel |
| 08:31.09 | GremWarsong | Or in-game auction house |
| 08:31.15 | GremWarsong | that's seperate from the real auction house |
| 08:31.17 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Telepathy |
| 08:31.25 | Inside | >_> |
| 08:31.27 | Inside | oh right |
| 08:32.03 | Shadowed | in-game message bored is impossible anyway |
| 08:32.05 | GremWarsong | A server-wide in-game message board would be very cool |
| 08:32.10 | Shadowed | Well, impossible without a ton of work |
| 08:32.17 | GremWarsong | it wouldnt be too difficult |
| 08:32.23 | AnduinLothar | no mor eimpossible than bittorrent |
| 08:32.34 | Shadowed | Well, impossible without a ton of work |
| 08:32.40 | GremWarsong | People would probably be able to fuck with it pretty bad |
| 08:32.46 | Shadowed | and that |
| 08:32.55 | GremWarsong | Since there would be no central server |
| 08:33.06 | GremWarsong | I was thinking of creating characters that acted as central servers |
| 08:33.10 | GremWarsong | On each server |
| 08:33.26 | GremWarsong | but the data sharing would probably crash them |
| 08:33.39 | Inside | You'd need like ~100 open clients/accounts at once.. >_> |
| 08:33.40 | Shadowed | You'd need something like 400 accounts to do that, or around 50 ( i believe? ) just for the US |
| 08:33.45 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 08:33.52 | Shadowed | Validating posts could be done sort of |
| 08:33.55 | GremWarsong | Id put a google ad or something on them |
| 08:34.08 | Inside | Heh |
| 08:34.16 | axxo | lol, go back to tetris man |
| 08:34.17 | Inside | Nah, that's too ambitious. |
| 08:34.17 | GremWarsong | Yeah Shadowed, could probably verify by how many people had the post recorded |
| 08:34.35 | GremWarsong | Hey, I have a lot of time on my hands, but that might be a bit excessive |
| 08:34.42 | Inside | Projects like that get started and then don't go anywhere. |
| 08:34.45 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.00 | Shadowed | So, it could be done. But in the end I wouldn't consider it to be worth while |
| 08:35.26 | AnduinLothar | zomg, they removed the lfg channel |
| 08:35.26 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 08:35.26 | Shadowed | in TBC? yea |
| 08:35.26 | GremWarsong | because in TBC they have their nifty new UI for LFG |
| 08:35.39 | AnduinLothar | wtb global trade channel |
| 08:36.16 | kaiden | WTB chicken wings.. |
| 08:36.26 | GremWarsong | So the problem with any sort of social network is that they could be modified without central moderators |
| 08:36.32 | GremWarsong | so im going to scrap that idea, it would be painful |
| 08:37.18 | AnduinLothar | if it uses chat channels, it's painful. rule of thumb |
| 08:37.28 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 08:37.40 | GremWarsong | but those are the coolest mods |
| 08:38.36 | Shadowed | Social network could be done if you put enough work into validation really |
| 08:38.53 | GremWarsong | Yeah, that would be very unfun though |
| 08:39.06 | GremWarsong | and very difficult to test |
| 08:39.08 | Inside | doubleplus unfun |
| 08:39.19 | Shadowed | But, you have realm forums, which are more moderated so not very popular |
| 08:39.34 | Inside | Trust me, those ingame forums will need to be moderated. |
| 08:39.42 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 08:39.42 | Inside | or the plug gets pulled >_o |
| 08:39.44 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:40.01 | Inside | is it absolutely dissalowed to have messages be sent between the game and outside world? |
| 08:40.08 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 08:40.12 | GremWarsong | Its dissallowed and impossible without third party programs |
| 08:40.16 | Inside | I see. |
| 08:40.18 | Inside | That's what I meant |
| 08:40.55 | Shadowed | You could have messages sent between game and outside world, but you'd have to do it when the games closed and the data would be lose if you crashed |
| 08:41.01 | Shadowed | (or consolereloadui) |
| 08:41.01 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:41.13 | GremWarsong | Yeah, can do that, but not live data |
| 08:43.30 | GremWarsong | Is there a guild calender mod? |
| 08:43.36 | GremWarsong | to schedule events on like, a calender |
| 08:43.44 | Inside | GEM? |
| 08:43.46 | Shadowed | pretty sure there is |
| 08:43.54 | GremWarsong | figures |
| 08:44.08 | Thunder_Child | gem is laggy though |
| 08:44.28 | GremWarsong | GEM must be some sort of social network |
| 08:44.33 | Thunder_Child | i'm trying to come up with a more streamlined one |
| 08:44.46 | GremWarsong | The guild leader uses it and shares data with everyone in the guild? |
| 08:45.07 | Thunder_Child | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1592-1-guildeventmanager.html |
| 08:45.25 | GremWarsong | 3026731 downloads |
| 08:45.28 | GremWarsong | seems successful |
| 08:45.55 | GremWarsong | Yeah, looks pretty col |
| 08:45.56 | GremWarsong | *cool |
| 08:45.57 | Thunder_Child | no other options really |
| 08:47.39 | GremWarsong | I want to make a battleground mod honestly |
| 08:47.49 | Thunder_Child | to do what? |
| 08:47.53 | GremWarsong | Who knows |
| 08:48.26 | Shadowed | When TBC comes out, the first few people who release BG mods will probably end up being pretty popular |
| 08:48.35 | Inside | >_> |
| 08:48.40 | Inside | Yup |
| 08:48.43 | Inside | they'll get all the e-vagina |
| 08:48.45 | Shadowed | lot of interesting stuff to do |
| 08:48.54 | GremWarsong | Screw that, ill be playing |
| 08:49.03 | GremWarsong | and getting mad at the UI changes |
| 08:49.10 | Shadowed | Well, theres a lot of fun/interesting things you'll be able to do with TBC and the new honor system, bg's, arena's and so on Inside :p |
| 08:49.16 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 08:49.38 | Shadowed | And I think out of the 4 "major" BG mods, BGAssist/BGSomething aren't kept up to date anymore |
| 08:50.01 | GremWarsong | I do BGs a lot lately, and people use the mods to report to the whole raid the status |
| 08:50.18 | GremWarsong | like how long until certain locations are captured |
| 08:50.25 | Shadowed | My current goal is to add a feature to block all of those :p |
| 08:50.33 | GremWarsong | Hahaha |
| 08:50.37 | Shadowed | nothing more annoying then somebody who spams timers every 60 seconds |
| 08:50.42 | GremWarsong | I know |
| 08:50.50 | Thunder_Child | "leave bg" will do it |
| 08:51.00 | Thunder_Child | "/leave bg" |
| 08:51.10 | Shadowed | you mean /afk :p |
| 08:51.22 | Thunder_Child | no.... |
| 08:51.31 | GremWarsong | I wonder if there's a BG mod that tracks BG statistics to predict odds of winning |
| 08:51.31 | Shadowed | oh that |
| 08:51.42 | GremWarsong | Based on the score chart and captured locations |
| 08:51.58 | Shadowed | GremWarsong: Not that I know of, but that's a pretty hard thing to actually tell |
| 08:52.20 | GremWarsong | It could figure it out based on kill ratios and stuff |
| 08:52.52 | Shadowed | Thunder_Child: Unfortentantly theres games I need to actually see BG chat |
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| 08:55.21 | GremWarsong | ooh |
| 08:55.24 | GremWarsong | I have some cool ideas |
| 08:55.27 | GremWarsong | for BG mods |
| 08:55.34 | GremWarsong | I remember everyone is in your raid group |
| 08:55.45 | GremWarsong | oh, can you get position of raid group members in battlegrounds? |
| 08:56.15 | Shadowed | yes |
| 08:56.25 | GremWarsong | I can use that to calculate victory odds |
| 08:56.30 | GremWarsong | based on the position of all your members |
| 08:56.32 | Inside | Did you see that two monitor UI mod? |
| 08:56.35 | Inside | That was hawt |
| 08:56.42 | GremWarsong | What is it? |
| 08:56.44 | Inside | with the minimap with the raid members on one monitor |
| 08:56.58 | GremWarsong | That's pretty neat |
| 08:57.01 | Thunder_Child | lol Shadowed, wuss |
| 08:57.25 | Shadowed | The problem with calculating victory odds is it's pretty one sided. |
| 08:57.35 | Shadowed | It'd be a fun mod just to do, but I wouldn't expect it to be that useful |
| 08:57.35 | GremWarsong | ? |
| 08:57.57 | GremWarsong | It could give tips like, "Need more offense, mages are owning our team, etc" |
| 08:58.00 | Shadowed | Well, for example I can tell you that 99% of the games in Alliance pugs are a lose |
| 08:58.13 | AnduinLothar | nah |
| 08:58.15 | GremWarsong | On my server, alliance wins like every BG |
| 08:58.17 | AnduinLothar | depends on server |
| 08:58.18 | Thunder_Child | the problem is that the best mods require everyone to have it |
| 08:58.18 | Inside | Unless they're AV |
| 08:58.18 | Inside | : |
| 08:58.20 | Inside | :P |
| 08:58.32 | Shadowed | what Thunder_Child said |
| 08:58.47 | GremWarsong | See, I could make a mod that is like, "OMG, defend X location now" |
| 08:58.48 | AnduinLothar | We win AV 75%, wsg we lose 90% and AB is abotu 50/50 for pugs |
| 08:59.15 | Thunder_Child | i drool at the thought of what we could do if we could focre ppl to use them |
| 08:59.20 | Shadowed | We used to win AV 95% of the time up until about 6 weeks ago and then we just started ( litteraly, we started losing every game ) |
| 08:59.21 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 08:59.32 | Inside | but uh |
| 08:59.34 | Inside | cross worlds BG |
| 08:59.34 | Shadowed | WSG is pretty much 90% of the time, AB is probably 70% of the time a lose |
| 08:59.34 | Inside | >_> |
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| 09:00.00 | GremWarsong | I think a BG battle predicting / strategy offering mod could be cool |
| 09:00.04 | GremWarsong | If it was relatively accurate |
| 09:00.41 | GremWarsong | It could say things like, "A lot of alliance players have been leaving the BG" |
| 09:00.55 | GremWarsong | (can see how long players have been present) |
| 09:01.01 | Shadowed | I was thinking of adding something like that, but instead of being nice it would say something along the lines of "Stop leaving stables unguarded you idiot" |
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| 09:01.08 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 09:01.15 | Shadowed | then i realised i'd probably get reported somehow |
| 09:01.28 | Inside | You could then claim ignorace that it's your mod doing that |
| 09:01.29 | Inside | <3 |
| 09:01.35 | Shadowed | I could |
| 09:01.55 | GremWarsong | Well yeah, you could make it say things about the player |
| 09:02.02 | GremWarsong | "Why the hell are you going there, you should be here" |
| 09:02.14 | Shadowed | I was tempted to add something so i can force people to afk out |
| 09:02.21 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 09:02.26 | GremWarsong | That would be awesome |
| 09:02.28 | GremWarsong | im definitely adding that |
| 09:02.29 | Shadowed | I still am |
| 09:02.45 | Shadowed | er still tempted that is |
| 09:03.12 | Shadowed | That'd be a sure way to either get your mod rejected from sites, or get people to never use your mod once they realised it did that :p |
| 09:03.17 | GremWarsong | lol |
| 09:03.48 | Thunder_Child | "xxx, you need devine intervention to aquire the moral stature of a devine rapist....NOW COVER THAT FLAG!" |
| 09:04.06 | Thunder_Child | s/devine rapist/child rapeist/ |
| 09:04.08 | GremWarsong | That was a very weird quote |
| 09:04.33 | GremWarsong | Haha |
| 09:04.58 | Thunder_Child | see, now THAT would get you banned |
| 09:05.09 | GremWarsong | Likely |
| 09:05.20 | Shadowed | I'm amazed my swearing in BG hasn't gotten me banned yet |
| 09:06.00 | GremWarsong | Has anyone here used Innerspace? |
| 09:06.07 | Shadowed | What's that |
| 09:06.11 | GremWarsong | Something illegal |
| 09:06.23 | GremWarsong | unlocks all of WoW's lua protected commands |
| 09:06.23 | GremWarsong | Haha |
| 09:06.44 | Shadowed | ah |
| 09:06.46 | GremWarsong | It will get you banned, but I was just curious if anyone has screwed with it |
| 09:07.01 | GremWarsong | Since were all social butterflys tonight |
| 09:07.17 | GremWarsong | I think im actually going to make that BG mod |
| 09:07.38 | GremWarsong | It will be the most popular mod EVER |
| 09:08.01 | Shadowed | have fun |
| 09:08.17 | GremWarsong | you have fun |
| 09:08.26 | Shadowed | I am |
| 09:08.33 | GremWarsong | You better...not |
| 09:08.37 | Shadowed | I've got like 10 different mods I have to work on :p |
| 09:08.42 | Thunder_Child | you 2 have fun together |
| 09:08.51 | AnduinLothar | what, only 10? you're slacking |
| 09:09.07 | GremWarsong | I hate juggling projects |
| 09:09.19 | GremWarsong | It makes my brain bleed |
| 09:09.24 | Shadowed | 10 mods, have to level a paladin to 60, get my priest to FM, update 10 mods to TBC, level my warrior to 67 |
| 09:09.36 | Shadowed | so, only so much i can do :p |
| 09:09.48 | GremWarsong | Why does everyone have burning crusade but me? |
| 09:10.21 | GremWarsong | I read some news on wowinterface.com that says something about popular mod authors getting into TBC |
| 09:10.43 | Shadowed | if you've submitted a mod to wowinterface you can get a TBC beta key |
| 09:10.58 | GremWarsong | Interesting |
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| 09:26.48 | Inside | asdf |
| 09:26.50 | Inside | damn you lua |
| 09:26.50 | Inside | >_> |
| 09:26.55 | GremWarsong | Whats up |
| 09:27.05 | Kaso | hey! you leave lua out of this! |
| 09:27.10 | Kaso | poor lua, there ther |
| 09:27.19 | Thunder_Child | ~comfort lua |
| 09:27.25 | purl | There, there, lua. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 09:33.40 | ckknight | ~wrists |
| 09:33.41 | purl | Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg |
| 09:34.13 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 09:34.18 | Thunder_Child | ~botsnack |
| 09:34.18 | purl | Thunder_Child: thanks |
| 09:34.35 | Inside | God |
| 09:34.38 | Inside | I hate Lua's logical operators |
| 09:34.38 | Inside | :p |
| 09:34.44 | Inside | http://rafb.net/paste/results/J0tbqH60.html |
| 09:34.56 | Inside | so does not do what I want it to do |
| 09:34.56 | Inside | >_o |
| 09:35.03 | ckknight | I don't mind em |
| 09:35.14 | Thunder_Child | Language: C++? |
| 09:35.18 | Inside | >_> |
| 09:35.18 | Inside | Yes |
| 09:35.19 | Inside | -_- |
| 09:36.03 | Thunder_Child | i hope it's worth it |
| 09:36.14 | Inside | what's worth what? |
| 09:36.32 | ckknight | Inside, what's with all the parentheses? |
| 09:36.47 | Inside | 3:30am coding, yessir |
| 09:37.03 | Thunder_Child | i hope all the trouble you are going through is worth the finished product |
| 09:37.08 | Inside | oh sure |
| 09:37.13 | Inside | I don't care about the finished product |
| 09:37.16 | Inside | if it works, it works, I'm happy |
| 09:37.19 | Inside | if nobody uses it, oh well |
| 09:37.48 | Inside | but at least one guildie said they'd play it |
| 09:37.48 | Inside | XD |
| 09:37.50 | Inside | so.. that's all good |
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| 09:55.20 | GremWarsong | Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to hook to the GetMoney() function to override it's results? |
| 10:07.23 | ckknight | yea, it is |
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| 10:25.32 | thr | hmm ok |
| 10:25.39 | thr | how do i make a for-loop that counts backwards in lua? |
| 10:25.53 | thr | for i = 1, 5 do end is from 1 to 5, but i wanna go from 5 to 1? ;< |
| 10:26.06 | |FF|Im2good4u | bsicly u would do |
| 10:26.19 | thr | ye i mean sure i can do a "local realI = calcofrealidependingon-i" |
| 10:26.25 | thr | but that's... annoying to say the least. |
| 10:26.47 | thr | for i = 1, 5 do local realI = 5-i end |
| 10:26.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | j = 5 ; for i=1,5,1 do something; j=j-1 end |
| 10:27.09 | thr | ye as I thought |
| 10:27.11 | thr | ah well ;> |
| 10:27.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | well that the best u can do whit lua |
| 10:27.26 | thr | ye |
| 10:27.43 | |FF|Im2good4u | u cna also do 5-i |
| 10:27.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe u can try this |
| 10:28.07 | |FF|Im2good4u | i never did it but for i=5,1,-1 do |
| 10:28.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe it works u dunno :P |
| 10:28.42 | thr | ;p |
| 10:28.45 | thr | i'll try it |
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| 11:33.10 | Radiance_ | Hi, I have been trying to get a dropdown menu to work... like the one in the friends frame... but can't figure out how to... I have checked the friendsframe script and xml file... but can't get my own to work, anyone willing/able to help? |
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| 11:37.49 | Saeris | API question: Does the GetChatTypeIndex function return static values regardless of the character, server, and locale? |
| 11:41.05 | Saeris | I've tested characters on three servers now, and gotten the same results. But I don't have access to a non-English client to test there. |
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| 12:04.49 | Mery | thr (although that was nearly 2 hours ago): for i=5, 1, -1 do end; |
| 12:05.14 | Mery | (ohh well and I didn't even read to the end... |
| 12:05.16 | Mery | ) |
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| 12:54.17 | JoshBork1 | wereHamster: http://www.wowwiki.com/SpellSyncLib |
| 12:56.04 | JoshBork1 | :( |
| 12:58.47 | wereHamster | yesterday I was able to recover my wine patches ;) .. let's see what I save today |
| 13:08.36 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: you know Interview already does what you mention on the wikki |
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| 13:09.58 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: perhaps you can use it to build your concept with |
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| 13:11.27 | wereHamster | does Interview have a wiki page? |
| 13:13.00 | sylvanaar | wereHamster: no, i just commited in the trunk this am |
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| 13:14.36 | sylvanaar | wereHamster: its still being developed so - dont expect one right away |
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| 13:29.17 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 13:29.23 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: ping |
| 13:30.59 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: hey |
| 13:31.15 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: im usually in wowace btw |
| 13:31.27 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: yea, i know. just responding here |
| 13:31.51 | JoshBorke | i doubt i'll use Interview because it means I will have to include all of Ace2 and i want my lib to be completely standalone |
| 13:32.03 | JoshBorke | but i might write a module for interview |
| 13:32.26 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: was saying that you could use interview to develop your concept or at least see how you want to develop it |
| 13:33.58 | JoshBorke | i'm looking more for feedback on the API. i don't think i'll encounter too many problems with writing it |
| 13:39.14 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: Yeah, i meant it like "hey this works and you can play with it interactively" |
| 13:39.22 | JoshBorke | ah, i see :-) |
| 13:41.15 | Cairenn | anyone with an EU account awake? |
| 13:41.32 | Elkano | *waves* |
| 13:41.39 | Cairenn | hey Elkano |
| 13:41.44 | Cairenn | could I ask a favour, please? |
| 13:41.56 | Elkano | feel free to try ;) |
| 13:42.24 | Cairenn | sec, trying to find |
| 13:43.32 | Elkano | but be warned that I'm playing Footy atm, so could take some minutes |
| 13:43.46 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: at the core you have a publish/subscribe type model, and are doing event remoting with minimal processing before being placed on the wire |
| 13:44.17 | Cairenn | Elkano: could you please kick this thread to the top? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=78588035&sid=1 |
| 13:44.38 | Elkano | I'll have a look at it later :) |
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| 13:45.56 | Cairenn | Elkano: and this one? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=54095467&sid=1 |
| 13:46.31 | Cairenn | I've got 400+ authors getting their keys tomorrow, I'd like to a) get more in and b) remind them to get their mods uploaded for testing |
| 13:47.35 | Kaso | tommorow ^_^ |
| 13:47.48 | Cairenn | so I'm told |
| 13:47.54 | Kaso | yay |
| 13:48.25 | Cairenn | ah, my apologies, I exaggerated, it isn't 400, it's only 387 right now |
| 13:48.44 | Kaso | well thats totally differernt! |
| 13:48.51 | Cairenn | I know! O.O |
| 13:49.31 | Kaso | im surprised attually, i would have though more people would have jumped on the chance |
| 13:49.45 | Cairenn | they've got until the end of the month |
| 13:50.07 | Cairenn | part of it is trying to get the word out there |
| 13:50.14 | Kaso | mm yes |
| 13:50.40 | Cairenn | and you know damn well the other sites aren't about to go promoting it :p |
| 13:51.50 | Kaso | have you had any like, pointless uploads that are clearly for getting a key (i release thats a little hash sounding, but) |
| 13:51.58 | Cairenn | oh yes |
| 13:52.03 | Cairenn | have we ever |
| 13:52.15 | Cairenn | as we knew we would |
| 13:52.27 | Kaso | any examples? |
| 13:52.27 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: Only issue i can see is the incoming event unit - how will you resolve it? |
| 13:52.29 | Cairenn | we also know that a lot of these folks will never be back to the site again |
| 13:52.36 | phyber | Cairenn: bumping them... |
| 13:52.45 | Cairenn | phyber: thank you :) |
| 13:52.52 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: i'll keep a lookup table of name->unit conversions |
| 13:53.02 | Cairenn | but *shrug* if it gets even a few legitimate authors in, I'm happy |
| 13:53.03 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: its thier unit |
| 13:53.28 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: the target will be passd by name |
| 13:53.57 | Cairenn | and I know it's gotten more than a few legit authors in, because it's gotten you guys in |
| 13:54.03 | Cairenn | and that was my aim |
| 13:54.10 | Kaso | <3 |
| 13:54.17 | JoshBorke | <3 |
| 13:55.33 | phyber | <3 |
| 13:55.59 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: ah, i see, i must have misunderstood |
| 13:58.34 | Elkano | ah, phyber, already bumped ^^ |
| 13:58.43 | phyber | :) |
| 13:59.11 | phyber | Elk, BFT (bump for truth) or something ;) |
| 14:01.01 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: i would send both unitid and name in the event callbacks - so you dont have to handle changing relations between them |
| 14:01.25 | Kaso | if i wanna capture the same pattern multiple times i wanna use gfind right? |
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| 14:06.35 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: plus they can have no unit id right? |
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| 14:12.55 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: which part are you talking about? the coms part or the inter-addon part? |
| 14:22.48 | Laric | Cairenn is the author keys going out tomorrow? :P |
| 14:22.57 | Cairenn | this is what I'm told, yup |
| 14:23.20 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:23.33 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 14:23.34 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn! |
| 14:24.30 | Cairenn | I'm not sure who is more excited, you guys or me |
| 14:25.31 | Laric | I am :P |
| 14:25.41 | Laric | so wanna test out my drycode :P |
| 14:26.20 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: when you register for events via your api you register for say 1 spell - when the callback provides the unit information what unit is it providing? |
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| 14:41.48 | Industrial | < Shadowed> Industrial: theres no Uno mod as far as i know |
| 14:41.49 | Industrial | Shadowed: ? |
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| 14:57.27 | sylvanaar | Shadowed: someone was talking about it yesterday |
| 14:58.18 | JoshBorke | yay for meetings! |
| 14:59.09 | sylvanaar | inside i believe |
| 14:59.15 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: sorry for the delayed response. the unit it provides is the unit casting the spell (local unit) so that UnitName(<unit>) returns the correct information |
| 15:01.13 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: if it is comeing from a synced source, unit could be undefined as they may have no unit relation to you |
| 15:02.14 | JoshBorke | sylvanaar: the sync channel will be group (raid/party/battleground) which means they will be in your group ie have a unit id. the target will be passed as a name |
| 15:02.23 | JoshBorke | ~seen mikk |
| 15:02.28 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3d 17h 6m 13s ago, saying: 'why isn't my startup screen saying anything about that then'. |
| 15:03.24 | JoshBorke | ~ping mikk |
| 15:03.28 | purl | pong mikk |
| 15:11.50 | Industrial | wtb WC/VC run 1.5g or ill run your alt. |
| 15:11.55 | Industrial | on Dethecus, horde |
| 15:11.55 | Industrial | :P |
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| 15:13.52 | wereHamster | hm.. what does that mean: "it's not ok to be switzerland anymore" ? |
| 15:14.43 | Industrial | not caring about other people, only minding your own business? |
| 15:14.54 | Industrial | eg being neutral like swizerland during WW2? |
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| 15:21.04 | JoshBorke | ~industrial |
| 15:21.06 | purl | Hey I feel like mounting you babeh... but I dont know exactly where to put it |
| 15:26.06 | Industrial | JoshBorke: screw you |
| 15:26.07 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:26.11 | Industrial | purl: no, industrial is tom.wieland@gmail.com |
| 15:26.12 | purl | Industrial: okay |
| 15:26.41 | JoshBorke | <3 Industrial |
| 15:26.45 | Industrial | ZOMG I NEED 40G NOWNOWNOW |
| 15:26.49 | Industrial | Night Reaver |
| 15:26.51 | Industrial | 40g |
| 15:26.52 | Industrial | ! |
| 15:26.55 | JoshBorke | ~industrial |
| 15:26.56 | purl | Hey I feel like mounting you babeh... but I dont know exactly where to put it |
| 15:26.56 | JoshBorke | ;-) |
| 15:27.01 | Industrial | purl: no, industrial is tom.wieland@gmail.com |
| 15:27.02 | purl | okay, Industrial |
| 15:27.13 | Beladona | Josh, stop that |
| 15:27.16 | Beladona | lol |
| 15:27.52 | Industrial | Beladona: Mikma was complaining about his install not finding any mount points |
| 15:27.53 | JoshBorke | purl, forget industrial |
| 15:27.59 | Industrial | so I reinterpreted it,for fun |
| 15:28.19 | Beladona | yeah but it looked like you guys were having purl wars |
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| 15:33.48 | phyber | purl: how did it feel to have two guys fighting over you? |
| 15:34.09 | phyber | bah. less chatty than a bMotion bot :p |
| 15:34.44 | Industrial | Anyone play on US/Dethecus/Horde? |
| 15:35.49 | Industrial | :( |
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| 15:42.49 | wereHamster | EU/Dethecus/Horde |
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| 15:49.06 | malreth | ~seen cladhaire |
| 15:49.28 | purl | cladhaire <n=zomg_hai@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 12h 18m 58s ago, saying: 'goodnight all'. |
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| 16:00.42 | Beladona | beta compares finally updated on wdn. sorry for the delay, I was on vacation all last week =) |
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| 16:13.52 | cogwheel | morning, malreth |
| 16:14.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | since whne did blizzart think they can beat wowiki ? |
| 16:14.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/encyclopedia/index.xml |
| 16:16.55 | Beladona | maybe ever since they made the game, and technically know more about it than wowwiki? |
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| 16:17.22 | Beladona | besides, that is in-game stuff, and a welcome addition. I don't think it detracts from wowwiki one bit |
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| 16:29.37 | phyber | |FF|Im2good4u: they win if they document the UI API on there. |
| 16:33.50 | Maldivia | morning Tem |
| 16:33.58 | Tem | morning |
| 16:34.24 | Tem | Beladona, I agree |
| 16:34.29 | Tem | I really like the Thalasian page |
| 16:34.46 | Tem | it explained all the odd greetings the npcs had been saying to my BE pally |
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| 16:43.01 | Kirkburn | Yarr! I be a happy bunny - got 5 Warcraft books this morning (and 5 seasons of Family Guy) :) 4 novels and The Art Of WoW! |
| 16:43.52 | phyber | Kirkburn: cool. |
| 16:44.05 | phyber | Kirkburn: I'm hoping my Police Squad DVD has arrived when I get home :) |
| 16:44.16 | wereHamster | "The Art Of WoW" ? |
| 16:44.16 | Kirkburn | Heh, awesome |
| 16:44.25 | Tem | probably the art book |
| 16:44.36 | Kirkburn | Yeah, it was originally in the Collector's Edition of WoW |
| 16:52.25 | Kirkburn | Argh, you have gotta try this: http://www.zanorg.com/prodperso/jeuxchiants/doublejeu.htm |
| 16:52.42 | Kirkburn | Don't worry that's french, it'll become clear quickly |
| 16:52.53 | Kirkburn | *that it's |
| 16:53.24 | Tem | I can read french |
| 16:53.28 | Tem | slowly, but I can |
| 16:54.09 | Tem | "are you as smart as you think you are?" |
| 16:55.11 | Kirkburn | Can you control/utilise both parts of your brain independently? |
| 16:55.14 | Xuerian | Um. |
| 16:55.22 | Xuerian | Kirkburn: Did you notice the language button? |
| 16:55.28 | Kirkburn | lol, no |
| 16:55.38 | Xuerian | lol |
| 16:56.52 | Tem | Kirkburn, I've got 18 seconds so far |
| 16:56.53 | Tem | and you? |
| 16:57.03 | Kirkburn | The whole idea that your left and right hemisphere are completely separate is somewhat of a simplification anyway, and kinda inaccurate. And the "use more than 8% of your brain" thing is a myth :/ |
| 16:57.12 | Kirkburn | I got 22 so far |
| 16:57.41 | Kirkburn | The best they managed to get in the PC Format office (found it on their blog) was 34! :/ |
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| 16:58.26 | Kirkburn | 23.734 :P |
| 16:58.27 | Kirkburn | argh! |
| 16:59.30 | Xuerian | It's not nice that you can't bounce the balls >.< |
| 16:59.39 | Kirkburn | omg 28.887 |
| 17:00.27 | Xuerian | woooo 24.0 |
| 17:01.00 | Kirkburn | You should check out the other games on the site :D |
| 17:01.16 | Kirkburn | One's a maze that blurs more and more as you try to get around it |
| 17:01.17 | cogwheel | argh... |
| 17:01.28 | cogwheel | they need to lock the mouse to the window |
| 17:01.57 | Tem | oh those bastards |
| 17:02.04 | Tem | it increases speed |
| 17:02.12 | Tem | 26 seconds |
| 17:03.44 | nevcairiel | omg that game is hard |
| 17:04.02 | Xuerian | HOOOOAH |
| 17:04.07 | Xuerian | 36.669 |
| 17:04.11 | SP|Sorren | hax imo |
| 17:04.35 | Xuerian | getting ss. |
| 17:04.44 | Kirkburn | Nice work! |
| 17:05.35 | nevcairiel | ss or it didnt happen! |
| 17:05.35 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:06.19 | cogwheel | malreth: that was one of my favorite TNG episodes |
| 17:06.26 | malreth | heh |
| 17:06.33 | malreth | i'm gonna keep going with that thread |
| 17:06.40 | malreth | see how long he'll keep responding |
| 17:06.41 | Tem | 29 |
| 17:06.57 | Xuerian | http://imagesocket.com/view/twitching8f3.png |
| 17:07.46 | JoshBorke | wow, that gamwe is hard |
| 17:07.48 | cogwheel | Heh... you should start throwing WoW lore into it: "Timmy, his mind ravaged by plague" |
| 17:08.20 | malreth | someone in my guild started a thread on our forums about that episode |
| 17:08.38 | malreth | and we all told stories from wow lore in that darmok style |
| 17:08.43 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 17:09.02 | malreth | i told a story about Adm. Proudmoore and Jaina |
| 17:09.27 | Kirkburn | 33.769 :/ |
| 17:09.28 | malreth | and then another one about Maiev Shadowsong |
| 17:09.37 | Kaso | Sets confuse me, can someone help :< |
| 17:11.04 | Xuerian | nice, kirk :D |
| 17:11.23 | JoshBorke | i need a translator! |
| 17:11.25 | malreth | ok... that game is really hard to play with a trackpad |
| 17:11.32 | Xuerian | lol |
| 17:11.36 | JoshBorke | http://www.zanorg.com/prodperso/jeuxchiants/interville.htm what do i do in this game? |
| 17:12.08 | cogwheel | gah... i can't keep the mouse inside the game :( |
| 17:12.27 | Kirkburn | aww |
| 17:13.09 | Miravlix | Hmm, I have a TBC beta key for being a mod author |
| 17:13.10 | Kirkburn | JoshBorke, no idea :/ |
| 17:13.14 | malreth | i like how the games make fun of you. "You suck but you can play again." |
| 17:13.27 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 17:13.37 | Miravlix | Your break your mail for a few days and find all kinds of interesting things when you get back |
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| 17:14.09 | Kirkburn | Wrong button :/ |
| 17:14.17 | Kirkburn | Miravlix, when did you get it? |
| 17:15.24 | Tem | 31 |
| 17:16.17 | Kirkburn | Heh, this one is great :D http://www.zanorg.com/prodperso/jeuxchiants/2005.htm |
| 17:16.32 | Tem | 30 |
| 17:16.35 | Miravlix | It's a WoWI spam to all mod authors |
| 17:16.48 | Kaso | im trying to make a pattern to get some info from itemlinks, but its not liking me, i think ive done the set wrong : "\124cff(......)\124Hitem:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+\124h%[([^%]])%]\124h\124r" |
| 17:16.56 | Miravlix | Arrived in the last 2-3 days |
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| 17:20.24 | Kaso | Kirkburn too easy! |
| 17:21.01 | Kirkburn | Kaso, heh, I just managed it too :) |
| 17:21.16 | Kirkburn | (Chuck Norris ftw) |
| 17:21.19 | Kaso | i think the moving box room was hardest |
| 17:21.26 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 17:21.52 | Kaso | now you're done with that, help me with pattern please :< |
| 17:22.13 | malreth | what information are you trying to pull from an item link? |
| 17:22.30 | Kaso | the item name and the color code |
| 17:22.46 | malreth | i need a sample item link... |
| 17:22.56 | malreth | or... i'll just let Kirkburn do my work for me |
| 17:23.04 | malreth | that sounds easier |
| 17:23.07 | malreth | so i'll just do that |
| 17:23.40 | Kaso | ok, the string i am using could be something like this |
| 17:23.49 | Kirkburn | Ye-es ... so I'll just, er, leave now. |
| 17:24.07 | JoshBorke | BAH! quit distracting me with these awful games! |
| 17:24.31 | Kirkburn | Haha, I *love* this one, it's got a great little twist: http://www.zanorg.com/prodperso/jeuxchiants/clavier.htm |
| 17:24.33 | Kaso | "|cffffff00|Hitem:1111:0:0:0|h[Item 1]|r |cffff00ff|Hitem:1111:0:0:0|h[Item 2]|r" and i want to gfind() both the colors and the item names |
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| 17:26.23 | Tem | 32.5 |
| 17:27.58 | sylvanaar | |c(%x+)|Hitem:(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+)|h%[(.-)%]|h|r |
| 17:28.16 | Maldivia | _,_,color,id,name = string.find(str, "|c(.-)|Hitem:(%d+):.-|h%[(.-)%]|r) |
| 17:29.10 | Kaso | aah |
| 17:29.10 | malreth | pattern = "^|cff(%x+)|Hitem:%d:%d:%d:%d|h%[(%C+)%]|h|r" |
| 17:29.26 | Kaso | haha, different versions ftw |
| 17:29.28 | Maldivia | Kaso, or even better: find the id, and pass it through GetItemInfo, to get the localized name and quality |
| 17:29.43 | Kaso | i dont care about itemID for this |
| 17:29.54 | sylvanaar | you got more answers in 5 sec that i ususally get in an hour |
| 17:29.54 | Maldivia | Kaso: that way you don't have to look at "Der Nadler", when you actually wanted "The Needler" |
| 17:30.09 | Kaso | but, i'd never seen - before, thats quite interesting. |
| 17:30.21 | malreth | pattern = "^|cff(%x+)|Hitem:%d:%d:%d:%d|h%[(%C-)%]|h|r" |
| 17:30.28 | Maldivia | - = not-greedy search |
| 17:30.36 | malreth | %C+ would be a mistake |
| 17:30.51 | Kaso | im only comparing the itemname to whatever text is on the speechbubbles, so the language doesnt matter |
| 17:31.14 | Garoun|Loupana | so, my question from last night, "is" there a way to know programmatically when a tracked node pops up? |
| 17:31.22 | malreth | Garoun|Loupana: no |
| 17:31.31 | Garoun|Loupana | ok :) I figured that |
| 17:31.33 | malreth | not unless you mouseover it |
| 17:31.47 | Kaso | hmm, is the dot drawn outside lua? |
| 17:32.05 | Garoun|Loupana | I think so, I couldn't find any reference to it in the minimap code |
| 17:32.20 | Garoun|Loupana | only code I saw was for party and raid drawing |
| 17:32.33 | Kaso | hmm, thats intersting, ill have to take a lookie at this |
| 17:32.35 | Garoun|Loupana | but no code at all for things that were "tracked" |
| 17:33.10 | Garoun|Loupana | the only tracking code in the minimap stuff is what texture to show on the TrackingFrameButton and whether or not to show it at all |
| 17:34.31 | malreth | oh... you could take the minimap frame, shrink it down to a single pixel, relocate it under the mouse cursor, read all the tooltips, and then move it back. |
| 17:34.39 | malreth | someone tried that once |
| 17:34.44 | malreth | but found it was really slow |
| 17:35.00 | Maldivia | do an Minimap:GetNumChildren() in an OnUpdate - if the number changes, then something popped up on the minimap |
| 17:35.21 | Kaso | that was my idea! im just checking it now |
| 17:36.48 | Maldivia | Kaso: might want to enumerate the children aswell, since player locations, direction arrows etc also count |
| 17:37.34 | Maldivia | Kaso: well, actually, you'd probably have to enumerate all the children, and check IsShown on them to track changes |
| 17:38.13 | Kaso | hmm |
| 17:38.30 | Kaso | r |
| 17:38.47 | Kaso | yah seems doable |
| 17:39.05 | Maldivia | no, this is not WoW, you don't have to press R to reply :) |
| 17:39.29 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 17:40.17 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:40.18 | Kaso | i just typed /dtframestack into irc :> |
| 17:40.24 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 17:40.32 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowwiki.com/SpellSyncLib |
| 17:40.34 | malreth | enumerate all children of the minimap, add a member variable to ones that you find to be blips and are shown to tag them... if a child frame has a tag but isn't shown, remove the tag. then you'll know which blips were just shown and which ones just went out of view |
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| 17:44.30 | Garoun|Loupana | note to self, clean out the url.ini file a couple times for IRC:P |
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| 17:50.47 | clad|work | ZOMG LAPTOP |
| 17:50.48 | clad|work | bye =) |
| 17:51.50 | JoshBorke | ok bye :-) |
| 17:53.45 | Kaso | hmm |
| 17:53.58 | Kaso | it seems that the dots arent lua frames |
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| 17:56.12 | Kirkburn | Quick q: anyone here recognise the names HungryHungryHuman, Silvertalon or Stoke? |
| 17:57.21 | zenzelezz | well, the last one is a place ;-o |
| 17:57.27 | Kirkburn | Heh |
| 17:57.59 | Kirkburn | Basically they're single edit accounts on the wiki who voted on the icon, wanted to know if they're anyone here :) |
| 18:00.48 | Shadowed | Did they all vote the same one? :p |
| 18:00.58 | Kirkburn | Couple did |
| 18:02.13 | Kirkburn | One of our over-zealous editors removed some votes from those on here as he thought they were single-purpose accounts (well, they were, but I'd asked for the votes!) |
| 18:03.08 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 18:08.01 | Kaso | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-hunter/images/spells/screenshots/silencingshot.jpg <-- is that addons on a blizz screenshot? |
| 18:08.18 | Kirkburn | Where? |
| 18:08.23 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:08.28 | Kaso | the minimap icon |
| 18:08.34 | Kirkburn | Atlas? |
| 18:08.40 | Shadowed | oh haha |
| 18:08.41 | Kaso | that and the W one |
| 18:08.41 | Shadowed | it is atlas |
| 18:08.59 | Kirkburn | W is the encyclopaedia, no? But lol @ Atlas |
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| 18:09.12 | Kaso | oh, yah, but, atlas at least :> |
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| 18:12.35 | Shadowed | they added a lot of easter-egg type things to there screenshots |
| 18:12.39 | Shadowed | the druids life form name is Alamo |
| 18:14.49 | Inside | HAAAAAAAAAAY MACARENA |
| 18:14.51 | Shadowed | er tree of life |
| 18:15.14 | Inside | I've been doing the "Haaay doobaadoojaaboo maceraanaa heeeeeeeeey macarena" in my head all morning long. |
| 18:17.07 | Inside | Oh dear god |
| 18:17.07 | Inside | http://snafu-comics.com/?strip_id=238 |
| 18:17.15 | Inside | scroll down move |
| 18:17.15 | Inside | XD |
| 18:18.17 | teomyr | what the... |
| 18:19.37 | Xuerian | ..... |
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| 18:28.22 | Naurbrannon | Hi people |
| 18:28.47 | Naurbrannon | what changed with the last beta patch? I used to be able to do /script myFunction() but now it isn't working anymore :/ |
| 18:28.50 | malreth | hi, Naurbrannon |
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| 18:31.29 | Kaso | Naurbrannon that should work, sure your not doing something incorrectly? |
| 18:31.47 | Naurbrannon | nope, same code of 2 daysa go |
| 18:32.26 | Shadowed | Can you define "not working", does it error, do nothing? |
| 18:33.29 | Naurbrannon | yeah the "attempting to call global function xxx, a nil value |
| 18:33.53 | Shadowed | are you sure your mods loaded? |
| 18:34.04 | Naurbrannon | well...yeah <_< |
| 18:34.10 | Shadowed | easier to make sure :p |
| 18:35.33 | Naurbrannon | it is like functions aren't global anymore |
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| 18:35.48 | Naurbrannon | it works if called from inside the addon code |
| 18:35.59 | Elessdy | sounds mysterious, but i... wait, you're calling /script within lua? |
| 18:36.14 | Corrodias | oh, "inside", nm |
| 18:36.27 | Naurbrannon | no no |
| 18:36.41 | Corrodias | i thought you said outside. okay. that is weird, if it's being defined properly. :/ |
| 18:36.57 | Shadowed | you check if it's doing the same for other addons maybe? |
| 18:37.02 | Naurbrannon | yes |
| 18:37.04 | Naurbrannon | it does |
| 18:37.24 | JoshBorke | what about when you do a lua function in the /script? |
| 18:37.39 | JoshBorke | /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage('hello') |
| 18:37.48 | Naurbrannon | works |
| 18:38.03 | JoshBorke | or /script a = UnitName('player') |
| 18:38.16 | JoshBorke | are you sure all of the addons load and work? |
| 18:38.45 | Naurbrannon | but if I do |
| 18:38.45 | Naurbrannon | "function Print(m) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(m); end;" inside an addon |
| 18:38.54 | Naurbrannon | yes yes I am |
| 18:41.16 | Corrodias | then you can't use /script Print("hi") ? |
| 18:41.39 | Naurbrannon | yeah |
| 18:42.09 | Naurbrannon | Error: attempt to call global 'Print' (a nil value) |
| 18:42.47 | Kirkburn | Important honor calc/patch news! http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/81089145.htm |
| 18:43.08 | sylvanaar | Naurbrannon: this is for TBC beta right |
| 18:43.15 | Naurbrannon | yes |
| 18:43.36 | malreth | ooh... that's gonna cause an uproar on the forums |
| 18:43.37 | sylvanaar | Naurbrannon: wasnt there something about protecting chatframe1 |
| 18:43.59 | sylvanaar | Naurbrannon: can you do it on frame2? |
| 18:44.10 | Naurbrannon | uh? |
| 18:44.27 | Kirkburn | Esamynn, not entirely " an unspecified client" now, are ya? :P |
| 18:44.36 | Corrodias | i don't know what frame2 is either |
| 18:44.41 | Esamynn | haha |
| 18:45.10 | sylvanaar | Naurbrannon: oh i missed you said ChatFrame1:AddMessage worked |
| 18:45.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | fel reaver bears crack me up every time i read about them |
| 18:46.02 | Naurbrannon | :D |
| 18:46.30 | Corrodias | yeah, that problem is kinda nuts, but i don't have the beta to try it on |
| 18:47.02 | Naurbrannon | meh it's still half bugged |
| 18:47.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | eep |
| 18:47.36 | Naurbrannon | the same code works if loaded via that addon someone use (can't remember the name, LuaSomething), but not if loaded from file |
| 18:48.35 | Corrodias | probably luaslinger? |
| 18:48.47 | Naurbrannon | think so |
| 18:48.51 | Naurbrannon | never used |
| 18:49.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | gah what a pain to link nicks |
| 18:49.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
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| 18:54.23 | sylvanaar | Naurbrannon: have you proven that your addon loaded? |
| 18:54.59 | Naurbrannon | I tried to return the name of a frame that get created by the same addon and worked |
| 18:55.39 | Naurbrannon | but....I reloaded the client and now works :S |
| 18:55.54 | sylvanaar | you made a toc change? |
| 18:56.00 | Naurbrannon | nope |
| 18:56.07 | malreth | just blame ckknight |
| 18:56.11 | malreth | it was his fault |
| 18:56.14 | Naurbrannon | :D |
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| 18:57.56 | Naurbrannon | only problem I'm having now is that SetBindingClick isn't working on load (end of the code) but if called after via chat or function does |
| 18:58.43 | Naurbrannon | is known if anyone is working on a addon keybinding frame? |
| 19:02.08 | Osagasu | @#$%^@^# 10 minute flight. |
| 19:03.09 | Osagasu | 12:19 exactly from the moonglade to Ungoro as horde. |
| 19:03.41 | Kaso | Org to silithus use to be 15min |
| 19:05.15 | Naurbrannon | mmm is anyone else having problems to upload addons to curse gaming? <_< |
| 19:05.27 | Osagasu | Times like this make me wish I was my mage. |
| 19:05.35 | Beladona | yeah. my problem is I don't do it |
| 19:05.37 | Beladona | oh |
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| 19:13.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | Osagasu |
| 19:13.36 | Osagasu | hm? |
| 19:13.40 | Naurbrannon | meh it didn't accepted .rar *shrug* |
| 19:13.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | the flight from ashenvale to feathermoon is 16 minutes |
| 19:13.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 19:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | or used to be |
| 19:13.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think they cut it down to 10ish |
| 19:14.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | er not ashenvale, auberdine |
| 19:16.48 | Cairenn | next batch of names just sent in, we're up to 393 now |
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| 19:20.14 | Silviu- | total ? ;) |
| 19:20.26 | Cairenn | yup |
| 19:20.33 | Cairenn | not counting the ones I got in before this |
| 19:22.58 | malreth | http://weboggle.shackworks.com/ |
| 19:24.21 | zenzelezz | MT dies during Maexxna enrage (as planned), but again the OT dies... so I end up tanking the last 5% |
| 19:24.29 | zenzelezz | we need to learn to keep the real OT up :-p |
| 19:25.04 | Shadowed | rogue? |
| 19:25.14 | Shadowed | oh wait you're a warrior |
| 19:25.19 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 19:25.21 | Shadowed | why would you kill the MT anyway |
| 19:25.50 | zenzelezz | we don't, but we don't yet have the power to keep him alive during the web spray at enrage |
| 19:25.53 | Shadowed | Stop before web spray if it's close to enrage. Let web spray happen, full DPS, SW the next spray, as long as you have the DPS you're golden |
| 19:26.11 | zenzelezz | well, we don't have that fast DPS yet :) |
| 19:26.38 | Shadowed | ah |
| 19:26.39 | Shadowed | that'd do it ;p |
| 19:26.50 | zenzelezz | eventually I expect we'll aim to just keep the tank alive |
| 19:26.59 | zenzelezz | we do try, but we have the backup ready |
| 19:27.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | god i wish i knew how to write addons :[ |
| 19:27.18 | zenzelezz | we did also have a rogue or two try to tank him after the MT, but they failed =D |
| 19:27.36 | Shadowed | our first kill a rogue tanked the last 5% |
| 19:27.48 | zenzelezz | hehe, sounds fun :) |
| 19:28.09 | Shadowed | think a rogue tanked instructor too |
| 19:28.10 | Shadowed | and PW |
| 19:28.16 | Shadowed | evasion works well! |
| 19:28.22 | zenzelezz | we rogue-tank Instructor during the pull |
| 19:28.43 | zenzelezz | mage shoots + ice blocks, rogue picks up and Evasion-tanks the instructor until the add arrives |
| 19:32.39 | Kaso | everyone seems to pull razu differentlly |
| 19:39.05 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 19:39.41 | zenzelezz | we even fight Ebonroc and Flamegor by the gate after Broodlord |
| 19:40.48 | zenzelezz | now I don't know how "most" guilds do it, but that differs from what I'd read and seen in videos before |
| 19:43.01 | kaiden | yeah my guild fights ebonroc and flamegor in the big long room just before you get to them |
| 19:43.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i need to either find me a guild or cough up 25 bucks |
| 19:43.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | sigh, i just wish they had a pve-pvp transfer available :/ |
| 19:46.00 | Legorol | you mean pve to pvp? |
| 19:52.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 19:52.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit you poofed |
| 19:54.03 | Industrial | in the TBC beta do you get any premade characters? |
| 19:54.08 | Industrial | if so can you keep them?:P |
| 19:54.18 | Industrial | heard some rumour at school ... |
| 19:54.30 | nevcairiel | you dont get any |
| 19:54.37 | nevcairiel | and if you would, you wouldnt |
| 19:54.39 | Industrial | blah L60 char blah 3 epics? |
| 19:54.39 | Industrial | k |
| 19:54.47 | Naurbrannon|AFK | they removed the option |
| 19:54.57 | Industrial | dude, seriously? :( |
| 19:55.30 | Naurbrannon|AFK | yeah you were able to copy lvl 70 epics characters but now they removed the option and deleted the chars saying it was an error |
| 19:55.41 | Industrial | asdfasdf |
| 19:55.41 | Naurbrannon|AFK | and btw no way you can keep beta characters |
| 19:55.46 | Industrial | heh :P |
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| 20:00.02 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 20:05.15 | Tem | there were never level 70s with epics |
| 20:05.22 | Tem | they were the premades from the last PTR |
| 20:05.55 | Tem | (level 60 with random smattering of T2 gear) |
| 20:06.24 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
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| 20:09.08 | JoshBorke | hola! |
| 20:09.55 | Cairenn | hey JoshBorke |
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| 20:33.21 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=13052 |
| 20:33.21 | Industrial | Howmuch would that get me |
| 20:33.22 | Industrial | 35g-ish? |
| 20:33.22 | Industrial | cant compare none in the AH now |
| 20:34.39 | chuckg | More like ... 10-15g. |
| 20:34.43 | chuckg | At most. |
| 20:34.50 | chuckg | It's too fast. |
| 20:34.57 | Industrial | hm ok |
| 20:35.07 | Industrial | would fit a twink nice... |
| 20:35.12 | Industrial | as the comments suggest |
| 20:35.50 | Inside | depends by server. |
| 20:37.25 | Inside | Man |
| 20:37.38 | Inside | I'm such a fucktard, I farmed for my Sul'Thraze the Lasher |
| 20:38.05 | weab | i could have told you that was a waste of time in beta |
| 20:38.17 | Inside | e-peen thing though |
| 20:38.17 | Inside | <3 |
| 20:38.22 | Inside | Can't use it for another 140,000xp |
| 20:38.24 | Inside | noooooooooooes |
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| 20:39.47 | teomyr | how long did it take you? |
| 20:39.56 | teomyr | how many runs? |
| 20:40.19 | Inside | Got the defender on my first ever run -- the protector took another 18 or o |
| 20:40.20 | Inside | so |
| 20:40.21 | Shronk | hi |
| 20:40.29 | Gryphen | heya |
| 20:40.32 | teomyr | hi Shronk |
| 20:40.38 | Inside | Went from 41-47 in the time it took me to get it |
| 20:40.40 | ckknight | classtime |
| 20:40.47 | teomyr | Inside: wow |
| 20:41.09 | Inside | However, I'm so ready for end game grinding |
| 20:41.09 | Inside | =D |
| 20:41.15 | teomyr | :D |
| 20:41.31 | Shronk | is there anyone that might help me out with a little script? |
| 20:41.41 | Inside | Quite possibly |
| 20:41.53 | teomyr | Inside: a friend of mine once told me "i'm gonna get that thing" |
| 20:42.11 | teomyr | Inside: i told her "good luck, will probably take a while" |
| 20:42.24 | Inside | Did he get it? |
| 20:42.35 | teomyr | Inside: two runs later she had it |
| 20:42.40 | Inside | fuck me |
| 20:43.01 | Mr_Rabies2|away | gah my ping is horrid to the wow servers |
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| 20:48.05 | Inside | http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2101/3130/1600/WoW.jpg <- me in 10 years |
| 20:53.48 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&pageNo=7&sid=1#130 |
| 20:56.10 | Shadowed | wait |
| 20:56.10 | Shadowed | so |
| 20:56.20 | Shadowed | We can spellcast in combat again, as long as it's using a secure template? |
| 20:57.31 | malreth | secure templates always were able to cast spells and target units... what, exactly is different? |
| 20:57.55 | Shadowed | yeah, confused at that |
| 20:58.22 | malreth | the last paragraph, i understand |
| 20:59.28 | malreth | if slouken didn't make that modification, someone else would write an addon to make state-sensitive macros easy |
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| 21:06.42 | Shadowed | ~sigh Maldivia |
| 21:06.43 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Maldivia!" |
| 21:06.45 | Shadowed | er |
| 21:06.48 | Shadowed | ~sigh malreth |
| 21:06.50 | purl | ACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "malreth!" |
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| 21:22.22 | AnduinLothar | for those that were baffled by my previous statement that vynn is awesome. He worked on the new Archaeologist Portrait Icons which are beautiful :D http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5851-Archaeologist.html |
| 21:29.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | mmm |
| 21:29.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just had some waffles in celebration of the latest druid changes |
| 21:29.54 | Shadowed | ? |
| 21:30.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's a druid thing |
| 21:30.46 | Shadowed | no, what were the changes |
| 21:30.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh |
| 21:31.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | procs working in forms, etc |
| 21:31.15 | Shadowed | oh that |
| 21:31.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | mangle being buffed to 30% more bleed damage/shred damage, etc |
| 21:31.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | i forgot i had the waffles so it was a belated celebration |
| 21:31.32 | JoshBorke | nerf dr00ds |
| 21:33.49 | Inside | Anyway~ |
| 21:33.55 | Inside | back to working on WoWUNO |
| 21:33.56 | Inside | D: |
| 21:35.06 | Inside | while card.value == "DrawFour" or card.value=="Reverse" or card.value=="Skip" or card.value=="DrawTwo" do isn't working like it should be D: |
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| 21:40.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still confused as to why there's no patch notes or changes on the talent/spell pages |
| 21:41.03 | Inside | because the patch isn't out yet c_c? |
| 21:41.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | the one that's on beta is O_O |
| 21:49.01 | Thunder_Child | there is, it's in the forums |
| 21:50.02 | Thunder_Child | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=560370&sid=1 |
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| 21:56.52 | nevcairiel | thats the old patch, not the latest |
| 21:59.03 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:59.07 | Inside | What do you guys use to write code with? |
| 21:59.10 | Inside | Notepad is kinda of um.. bland. |
| 21:59.12 | malreth | TextWrangler |
| 21:59.13 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 21:59.15 | Shadowed | textpad |
| 21:59.18 | JoshBorke | Inside: Vim |
| 21:59.21 | Gryphen | heya |
| 21:59.28 | malreth | and Notepad+ |
| 21:59.35 | malreth | depends on which computer i'm on |
| 21:59.39 | Inside | Anything that a) has highlighting b) windows c) can collapse functions/has function browser |
| 21:59.47 | ckknight | I use Notepad2 with lua lexer |
| 21:59.51 | JoshBorke | Inside: vim :-D |
| 21:59.53 | Inside | asdf |
| 22:01.13 | teomyr | SciTE |
| 22:01.36 | malreth | ckknight: does Notepad2 come with the lua lexer or did you have to download it separately? |
| 22:03.00 | Tain | It's separate, but it worked pretty well from what I remember. |
| 22:03.08 | Tain | But I still prefer SciTE. |
| 22:03.23 | haste | I also like SciTE |
| 22:05.24 | ckknight | malreth, google ;-) |
| 22:05.31 | ckknight | you gotta download a special version |
| 22:09.06 | Kaso | Gah, i sware i'll never understand patterns properly |
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| 22:10.11 | teomyr | regular expressions? :D |
| 22:10.44 | Kaso | hu? |
| 22:12.37 | teomyr | lua string patterns are like regular expressions, only worse imo |
| 22:13.50 | Iriel | They /are/ regular expressions |
| 22:15.03 | teomyr | mhh, yes, but from my experience, they only offer a subset of the features that other regular expression dialects have |
| 22:15.38 | Iriel | yeah, it's a very compact implementation |
| 22:16.44 | Kaso | so, i want to match a speicfic string, but when not enclosed in [] |
| 22:17.33 | Kaso | any ideas |
| 22:19.37 | teomyr | could you give an example? |
| 22:20.09 | Kaso | ok, i want to Match "Benediction" but not "[Benediction]" |
| 22:20.31 | Kaso | but |
| 22:20.53 | Kaso | it could be in the middle or whatever |
| 22:21.11 | Kaso | "this is a test Benediction blah blah" but not "this is a test [Benediction] blah blah" |
| 22:21.27 | teomyr | hmm |
| 22:23.20 | malreth | can you use "%sBenediction%s" as a pattern? |
| 22:23.34 | malreth | hmm... well |
| 22:23.44 | teomyr | yes, that would probably work |
| 22:23.44 | malreth | that won't match Benediction at the start or end of a word |
| 22:23.47 | zespri_work | or [^%[]Benediction[^%]] |
| 22:23.53 | malreth | ah... yeah |
| 22:25.08 | Kaso | string.find("test","[^%[]test[^%]]") = nil however |
| 22:25.27 | teomyr | try [^%[]*Benediction[^%]]* |
| 22:26.13 | Kaso | sweet! |
| 22:26.26 | Kaso | <3 |
| 22:26.37 | teomyr | :D |
| 22:27.32 | malreth | hmm... * will be too greedy |
| 22:27.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mike (n=mjgoosse@74.92.248.14) |
| 22:27.52 | Mike | Hi |
| 22:28.00 | Gryphen | heya |
| 22:28.03 | malreth | why does this feel like another use of the frontier pattern? |
| 22:28.05 | Mike | Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong on this section of code? Or how do I link something to run if the prior if statement is false? |
| 22:28.17 | malreth | > t = "Benediction Benediction [Benediction] [Benediction Benediction] BenedictionBenediction Benediction" |
| 22:28.28 | malreth | > string.gsub(t, "[^%[]*Benediction[^%]]*", print) |
| 22:28.29 | malreth | Benediction Benediction [Benediction |
| 22:28.57 | Kaso | :< |
| 22:29.23 | Mike | http://pastey.net/2164 |
| 22:29.26 | Mike | malreth: What are you talking about? |
| 22:29.31 | malreth | ok... well, i'll let... oh... Tain figure it out |
| 22:29.43 | malreth | Mike: a question that was brought up before you joined the room |
| 22:30.06 | Mike | It was from mjgoossen |
| 22:30.13 | Kaso | Resipe is spelt wrong? |
| 22:30.17 | malreth | > string.gsub(t, "[^%[]-Benediction[^%]]-", print) |
| 22:30.21 | malreth | Benediction |
| 22:30.22 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.22 | malreth | Benediction |
| 22:30.22 | malreth | Benediction |
| 22:30.24 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.24 | malreth | ] Benediction |
| 22:30.25 | malreth | Benediction |
| 22:30.26 | malreth | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.27 | Mike | I want the SN of "Mike" |
| 22:30.41 | Mike | Not of "mjgoossen" what it wants to set my name to. |
| 22:31.06 | malreth | ok.. Tain... figure out Kaso's problem. I'm going home |
| 22:31.19 | Mike | And, I am having trouble with my connection, again. |
| 22:31.20 | Kaso | aww |
| 22:31.46 | Mike | I just left, humm. |
| 22:34.00 | teomyr | if we put - after the group it will also match the "foo" in "[foo]" and just leave out the brackets, right? |
| 22:34.57 | Mike | Any ideas about my question? |
| 22:35.00 | Mike | Thanks for the spelling correction... |
| 22:36.42 | teomyr | Mike: what exactly is not working with your code? |
| 22:37.51 | Mike | It is not working. |
| 22:38.07 | Mike | Let me get the full code. |
| 22:38.43 | Mike | http://pastey.net/2165 |
| 22:39.10 | Mike | The name does not fill in, so mail can not send. |
| 22:41.53 | teomyr | hm |
| 22:44.46 | teomyr | Mike: try the version I posted |
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| 22:44.55 | Mike | Where? |
| 22:45.03 | Mike | Same link? |
| 22:45.06 | teomyr | Mike: yes |
| 22:45.35 | Mike | I have to go, I will try that at a latter date, thank you for your help. |
| 22:45.57 | teomyr | Mike: see ya, good luck =) |
| 22:46.36 | Mike | I am trying to create something that mails said item depending on the item type, to a citron recipient. |
| 22:46.39 | Mike | Thanks. |
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| 23:19.28 | Inside | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.28 | Inside | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JisgLhWghRQ |
| 23:19.29 | Inside | >3 |
| 23:19.30 | Inside | <3 |
| 23:20.20 | Corrodias | man, nickelodeon has some great shows |
| 23:20.26 | Corrodias | the thinking man's cartoons |
| 23:21.16 | deci | like Weinerville |
| 23:21.31 | deci | and Hey Dude and Pete and pete and Salute your shorts |
| 23:21.39 | deci | and Ahhhh! Real Monsters! |
| 23:22.44 | Corrodias | i'm afraid those were quite a while ago |
| 23:22.49 | Corrodias | i don't remember them well enough |
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| 23:23.21 | TheZanke | question, how do i make a mod send a message to a specific channel? and can i get it to do it onload? |
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| 23:25.21 | Corrodias | i think so... maybe. |
| 23:25.21 | Corrodias | SendChatMessage or something |
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| 23:26.22 | Corrodias | as for nickelodeon's shows, i was referring to current ones -- jimmy neutron, the old spongebob (newer ones are horrible), even fairly oddparents has its moments |
| 23:26.57 | deci | oh, yea those are good too :P |
| 23:27.08 | Inside | >_> I'm doing something reatrded here, aren't I? |
| 23:27.08 | Inside | http://rafb.net/paste/results/YGGJwD19.html |
| 23:27.14 | Shadowed | UNIT_HEALTH event sdon't extend to raid<num>target units I assume? |
| 23:27.35 | Inside | TheZanke: Yes, yes you can. Register this frame to "ADDON_LOADED" and then in your addon's OnEvent function, do a sendchatmessage() to your cannel |
| 23:28.48 | Kirkburn | Argh, why can't tomorrow be today! Argh! |
| 23:29.32 | nevcairiel | waiting for a key ? :) |
| 23:29.38 | Kirkburn | Shurely not :) |
| 23:31.56 | cogwheel | tomorrow will be today tomorrow |
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| 23:32.23 | Kirkburn | Well, it's not right! |
| 23:34.21 | Kirkburn | Inside, thanks for that video earlier :D |
| 23:40.19 | Laric | Cairenn the email provided in the key thing.. must it be the same email as the wow account is registered to? |
| 23:40.27 | Cairenn | no |
| 23:40.31 | Laric | phew :P |
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| 23:43.38 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm looks like I'm having server issues |
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| 23:52.56 | cogwheel | :( |
| 23:52.56 | Shadowed | boom! |
| 23:52.56 | Cairenn | net split! |
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| 23:54.25 | Cairenn | welcome back |
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| 23:55.39 | Maldivia | How nice of you to come back, was starting to feel a bit lonely :| |
| 23:55.39 | Kirkburn | I was so alone for those few minutes :( |
| 23:55.39 | Garoun|Loupana | welcome back to you |
| 23:55.39 | Kaso | wtf |
| 23:55.40 | Cairenn | that was a fun little net split |
| 23:55.40 | Thunder_Child | server split |
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| 23:55.40 | Kaso | that hurt my pc |
| 23:55.40 | Kirkburn | That was crazy big :O |
| 23:55.41 | Thunder_Child | seems to happen fairly often |
| 23:55.41 | Maldivia | so, are the opers playing with the crash bug again ? |
| 23:55.41 | Inside | >_> |
| 23:55.41 | Inside | just a net split |
| 23:55.41 | Kirkburn | Most people seem to be on leguin.freenode.net |
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| 23:58.41 | TheZanke | how would i make my mod do a SendChatMessage when i first connect to the game? |
| 23:59.15 | Corrodias | you have to wait until you've actually joined the channel for one thing |
| 23:59.46 | cogwheel | TheZanke: do you actually want to send a message or just print something to the chat window? |
| 23:59.49 | Corrodias | do you register for the VARIABLES_LOADED event, perhaps? i don't know when you can safely fire it off |
