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| 00:02.19 | Industrial | Sorry, the administrator has stated that you may only post one comment every 30 seconds. |
| 00:02.24 | Industrial | I havent posted in like.. 4 hours |
| 00:02.39 | Cairenn | there was a weird glitch went on with the servers, we have no idea why |
| 00:02.52 | Cairenn | (5:35:21 PM) Dolby-wowi: no idea why it happen. did it on the wowi/vgi servers and the eqi/eq2i servers |
| 00:02.52 | Cairenn | (5:35:29 PM) Dolby-wowi: both in different data centers |
| 00:03.02 | Industrial | k |
| 00:03.06 | Cairenn | (5:13:22 PM) Dolby-wowi: its weird.... 11/3 2:30am jump to 11/3 3:30pm |
| 00:03.16 | Cairenn | (5:12:56 PM) Dolby-wowi: it will all be fixed by 2am any way |
| 00:03.32 | Industrial | *backs the post up* |
| 00:06.02 | Tain | Daylight savings time start late? |
| 00:06.28 | Industrial | Cairenn: PC date off? |
| 00:06.31 | Industrial | :D |
| 00:06.34 | Industrial | server* |
| 00:06.54 | Cairenn | Industrial: two different servers, two different data centers ... |
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| 00:08.09 | Industrial | daa daaa da daaa daa daaaaa *x files theme* |
| 00:09.33 | Industrial | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5605#cmnt15980 |
| 00:09.34 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:09.40 | Industrial | yeah time really shifted |
| 00:09.42 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:10.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 00:10.33 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 00:10.37 | nevcairiel | that looks weird |
| 00:10.59 | Industrial | I can sheeee in to jooor fjoootjoooorrr!! *crazy eye* >_O |
| 00:11.06 | nevcairiel | we had that last week when DST turned off :p |
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| 00:12.09 | Industrial | crap missed ab queue :P sit for another 15 mins :|\ |
| 00:12.31 | Industrial | MOAR boring plz blizzard |
| 00:14.14 | Industrial | \m/ -_- \m/ |
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| 00:39.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://duggmirror.com/gaming_news/A_WoW_Obituary_with_the_right_reply_Picture/wow4twiw3.gif oh god i feel bad laughing but i cant help it :[ |
| 00:39.38 | Osagasu | Well, the worldofwar content is over. |
| 00:39.42 | Osagasu | **contest |
| 00:40.05 | Cairenn | Osagasu: ? |
| 00:41.06 | Shadowed | Is there an easy way to find out where an "invalid key for next" error is coming from, if you don't have any table.remove calls? |
| 00:41.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Saeris (n=saeris@dsl-251-11.dynamic-dsl.frii.net) |
| 00:43.00 | Cairenn | Osagasu: what are you talking about? |
| 00:43.13 | Shadowed | Cairenn: Think he means the worldofwar TBC key give-away |
| 00:44.34 | Saeris | Hypothetical: You have a loop which calls a function on every iteration. At what point does it become worthwhile to create an alias for that function on the scope immediately above the loop? |
| 00:48.56 | Saeris | By "what point" I mean "what number of iterations" and by "worthwhile" I mean "lowers the processing required by the entire loop enough to warrant the creation of the local variable" |
| 00:50.19 | Saeris | I'm guessing the number would have to be in the thousands, at least. But I'd like to hear what other, more experienced, people think. |
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| 00:56.13 | ckknight | Saeris, mmm... 2 iterations |
| 00:56.24 | ckknight | local variables are cheap. |
| 00:56.36 | ckknight | like, really damn cheap |
| 00:56.46 | Saeris | Oh, really? Intriguing. |
| 00:56.57 | Cairenn | beta patch, for those already in |
| 00:57.02 | ckknight | again? |
| 00:57.11 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 00:57.14 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 00:57.35 | Saeris | Are the notes posted anywhere yet? |
| 00:57.42 | Cairenn | 38.something Mb |
| 00:58.27 | Cairenn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/alpha-beta-us.html |
| 00:58.52 | Cairenn | except it isn't current |
| 00:58.56 | ckknight | btw, so you all know, I'm working on a new mod called "Cartographer", which is a map addon to the likes of AlphaMap and MetaMap. Currently, all it does is resize the map, change the alpha, and add in hidden areas (a la MozzFullWorldMap), the difference being that it does it very efficiently |
| 01:00.18 | Cairenn | servers aren't up yet though |
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| 01:00.52 | Guillotine | ckknight: theres already an addon named cartographer, just so you know |
| 01:00.56 | ckknight | there is? |
| 01:00.58 | ckknight | I searched for it |
| 01:01.01 | ckknight | couldn't find anything |
| 01:01.22 | Guillotine | oh wait, thats cartographe |
| 01:01.24 | Guillotine | close though ;) |
| 01:01.36 | Guillotine | and its an external program, not an addon I guess |
| 01:01.39 | ckknight | yea. |
| 01:01.42 | Guillotine | I just knew I had heard the name |
| 01:01.44 | ckknight | I knew there was an external program |
| 01:01.54 | ckknight | either way |
| 01:01.58 | ckknight | it's made to be modular |
| 01:02.05 | ckknight | so each module can be disabled if you don't like it |
| 01:02.10 | ckknight | I'm working on the MapNotes part now |
| 01:02.26 | Saeris | Sounds pretty hot. |
| 01:02.51 | ckknight | it's really cheap memory and cpu-wise, too |
| 01:03.24 | ckknight | that's the main point of making it |
| 01:03.36 | ckknight | cause both AlphaMap and MetaMap are beasts |
| 01:03.46 | Saeris | Yeah |
| 01:03.52 | ckknight | but they are quite featureful, I won't hold that against them |
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| 01:14.35 | Osagasu | Cairenn, sorry, I went AFK. What Shadowed said. |
| 01:15.52 | Maldivia | uhh... 2.0.1 now! |
| 01:16.28 | Osagasu | So I'm back to betting, because I STILL haven't figured out how to make the damned addon work properly. |
| 01:17.55 | Maldivia | hmm, so TBC retail will be 2.1.0 ? :) |
| 01:19.54 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 01:20.19 | Cairenn | err |
| 01:20.21 | Cairenn | no |
| 01:20.25 | MentalPower | ckknight: can you make it so you can change the tint of the undiscovered zones? The blue tint on Mozz's makes me sick |
| 01:20.29 | Cairenn | 2.0.1 |
| 01:21.05 | ckknight | MentalPower, there's a color thing in the menu. |
| 01:21.16 | ckknight | you choose exactly the color and transparency you want for the undiscovered areas. |
| 01:21.45 | MentalPower | oh? I must have an old version |
| 01:21.56 | ckknight | mmm... that was always in there, afaik |
| 01:22.08 | ckknight | you know where the menu is? |
| 01:22.13 | MentalPower | nop |
| 01:22.15 | ckknight | next to the zoom out button |
| 01:22.20 | MentalPower | didn't know there was one |
| 01:22.33 | MentalPower | I'll look for it ingame |
| 01:22.52 | ckknight | well, click the Cartographer button |
| 01:22.55 | ckknight | go to MapUnhider |
| 01:23.00 | ckknight | then click Unexplored color |
| 01:23.18 | ckknight | I'm gonna change the default to something less pukish |
| 01:23.24 | MentalPower | oh, so your mod is already released? |
| 01:23.32 | ckknight | it's on the svn ;-) |
| 01:23.43 | MentalPower | gotcha |
| 01:23.45 | ckknight | wowace's |
| 01:23.47 | MentalPower | I'll install it |
| 01:23.47 | ckknight | it works |
| 01:23.49 | ckknight | feel free to use it |
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| 01:48.15 | [Wobin] | lol |
| 01:48.16 | [Wobin] | http://i11.tinypic.com/35ldit3.jpg |
| 01:48.39 | gnorlish | new 41 pt talent |
| 01:49.10 | gnorlish | in subtlety |
| 01:49.53 | Maldivia | blink for rogues...? |
| 01:50.06 | Guillotine | Wobin: where did you get that screenshot? |
| 01:50.19 | Guillotine | the servers aren't even up yet o.O |
| 01:50.23 | [Wobin] | off the wow lj comm |
| 01:51.01 | [Wobin] | Is it genuine? |
| 01:51.05 | Guillotine | no |
| 01:51.08 | [Wobin] | The details seem... sketchy =P |
| 01:51.17 | Guillotine | unless they've done some datamining in the last 40 mins |
| 01:51.32 | [Wobin] | seems a bit fast, eh =) |
| 01:51.50 | zenzelezz | the description doesn't sound real |
| 01:51.58 | [Wobin] | yeah |
| 01:52.04 | [Wobin] | 20% is too vague |
| 01:52.14 | zenzelezz | lacks a key word, "damage", at the very least |
| 01:52.32 | ckknight | yea. |
| 01:52.41 | Maldivia | give me 10 sec, and I'll verify... |
| 01:53.07 | Maldivia | Verified |
| 01:53.18 | zenzelezz | as what, true or false? |
| 01:53.20 | [Wobin] | Really? |
| 01:53.25 | Maldivia | true |
| 01:53.35 | [Wobin] | They're that ambivilant on the wording? |
| 01:53.38 | Guillotine | how'd you check? |
| 01:53.48 | Maldivia | extracted the spell.dbc files |
| 01:53.52 | Guillotine | wow |
| 01:54.09 | [Wobin] | "Shadowstep" (1144092),0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Attempts to step through the shadows and reappear behind your enemy. Your next Ambush, Backstab or Garrote ability is increased by $36563s2%. Lasts $36563d." |
| 01:54.10 | zenzelezz | well, they did doa a horrible job with describing the Shield Slam change/fix in one of the latest patches on Live |
| 01:54.49 | [Wobin] | That's a kinda a very cool talent |
| 01:54.55 | [Wobin] | would save me so much effort =P |
| 01:55.06 | [Wobin] | damn latency =P |
| 01:56.02 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 01:56.05 | [Wobin] | lasts 10 seconds? |
| 01:56.15 | [Wobin] | oh, the boost, I guess |
| 01:56.24 | Maldivia | hmm, is Nurtiring Instinct talent (feral druid) new? |
| 01:56.29 | [Wobin] | it's a 30 yard blink =) |
| 01:56.42 | Maldivia | nevermind, it's not |
| 01:57.45 | Maldivia | improved pummel in fury.. |
| 01:57.59 | Maldivia | is gone |
| 01:59.02 | Maldivia | hmm, might be a patch or two ago :) |
| 02:02.19 | Kirkburn | Any sign of an enGB patch? |
| 02:02.33 | Garoun|Loupana | I was a sad panda when they got rid of the wield a 2h weapon in one hand :( |
| 02:02.41 | Kaso | so wait, theres anyother patch i need to download? |
| 02:03.19 | Cairenn | a patch got pushed to BC Beta just a while ago today, yes |
| 02:03.43 | Tain | Neverwinter Nights 2 has Monkey Grip. :) Wield 2h weapons in one hand. |
| 02:03.48 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: need me to mirror it for you? |
| 02:03.50 | Kaso | im getting sick of downloading! |
| 02:04.06 | Kirkburn | We needs the playin', man! |
| 02:04.09 | Kirkburn | Maldivia, please :) |
| 02:04.12 | Garoun|Loupana | interesting, the scanning thing was a bit different |
| 02:04.24 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: ok, will take me 20mins to upload |
| 02:04.38 | Kaso | i might need to borrow that download also maldivia :> |
| 02:04.43 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 02:04.53 | Kirkburn | Saves me having to turn on my 'vacuum' :) |
| 02:04.59 | Maldivia | wow... they're pushing the AP on the feral weapons!! |
| 02:04.59 | Maldivia | Increases attack power by 886 in Cat, Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms only. |
| 02:05.01 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm just trying to get all patched up so I can get started when the actual ey gets here |
| 02:05.24 | Kirkburn | Ey! *pretends to be The Fonz* |
| 02:05.32 | Garoun|Loupana | key :P |
| 02:05.41 | Garoun|Loupana | my k is broken and doesn't react that well |
| 02:06.17 | zenzelezz | fonz? |
| 02:06.25 | Maldivia | a lot of new leatherworking recipees this push |
| 02:06.36 | Kaso | wait? so Moonkins get the extra AP too nowadays? |
| 02:06.45 | Cairenn | FONZ! |
| 02:07.59 | Guillotine | Kaso: they have for a while |
| 02:08.01 | Garoun|Loupana | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=MZxhhscMdihsuVeIz the 70 tank spec I had for my druid |
| 02:08.17 | Maldivia | ok, spell/dmg and healing are getting some serious increments aswell!!! |
| 02:08.22 | Kirkburn | New drood form: Arthur Fonzerelli |
| 02:08.40 | Kaso | isnt the point of that AP so they can get some scaling, moonkins use the weapon DPS why do they need it |
| 02:08.42 | Kirkburn | + 30 cool, only wears leather armor |
| 02:08.42 | Garoun|Loupana | that's using 10/25 numbers though |
| 02:09.11 | Guillotine | Garoun: Take Savage Fury instead of Meditation. If you're tanking, no point in having meditation, and you'll be using lacerate a LOT |
| 02:09.26 | Saeris | Kaso: Because they're moonkin? ;) |
| 02:10.13 | Garoun|Loupana | it already has savage fury :) |
| 02:10.14 | Garoun|Loupana | 2/2 |
| 02:10.26 | zenzelezz | if druids get a Fonz form, warriors deserve a Chuck stance |
| 02:10.29 | Guillotine | sry, meant shredding attacks |
| 02:10.56 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, what's lacerate? was that a new spell? |
| 02:11.48 | Garoun|Loupana | and guessing you mean Shredding attacs instead of the 3/5 in nature's focus |
| 02:12.06 | Maldivia | Lacerates the enemy target, making them bleed for 155 damage over 15 sec and causing a high amount of threat. This effect stacks up to 5 times on the same target. |
| 02:12.20 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm nice, will go well with mangle |
| 02:12.38 | Kirkburn | *** The vote is on! *** Vote for your favourite WoWWiki icon! Please :) http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon#Votes |
| 02:13.22 | Maldivia | isn't that vote old ? |
| 02:13.28 | Kirkburn | New one, finally :) |
| 02:13.47 | Shadowed | they all seem to fancy |
| 02:13.49 | Kirkburn | You can vote for two out of the 13 |
| 02:13.54 | Mery | You need directions? Sorry, mage. Even I am lost, here. Ask again in a week or so, yes?" |
| 02:13.59 | Shadowed | i like 13# though |
| 02:14.13 | Mery | from a shattrath ciry guard =) |
| 02:14.18 | Thunder_Child | none of them really describe who and what wowwiki is |
| 02:15.25 | Kirkburn | The little papers on the gnome and goblin ones are actual WoWWiki pages |
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| 02:16.09 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, do they not have the updated cinematic in the beta download, or do I just need to watch longer :P |
| 02:16.20 | Kirkburn | Garoun|Loupana, won't be until release |
| 02:16.29 | Garoun|Loupana | ok cool, makes sense |
| 02:17.02 | Thunder_Child | it will be nice when games look like the cinematic does |
| 02:17.15 | Garoun|Loupana | just look at crysis |
| 02:17.26 | Thunder_Child | isnt quite up to that standard |
| 02:17.47 | Garoun|Loupana | and Bioshock will be close, in terms of AI advancement |
| 02:19.34 | Garoun|Loupana | wait a minute... shadowstep... |
| 02:19.45 | Garoun|Loupana | oh come on blizz :( sigh |
| 02:19.46 | Maldivia | yep, new 41p subtlety talent |
| 02:19.56 | Garoun|Loupana | they just had to steal an ability from GW |
| 02:20.04 | Garoun|Loupana | I think that's even the EXACT name |
| 02:20.05 | sylvanaar | code gererator, anyone use one, if so which? |
| 02:23.48 | Garoun|Loupana | yep, http://gwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=SkillsDatabase.Assassin.List |
| 02:24.04 | Garoun|Loupana | taken basically out of half the Assasin's abilities in Guild Wars |
| 02:24.27 | Garoun|Loupana | Shadow Step to target foe. For 4...9 seconds, that foe moves 66% slower. |
| 02:25.38 | Garoun|Loupana | oh well, hopefully they just change the name on it at least :/ |
| 02:27.03 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 02:27.18 | Garoun|Loupana | because it's blatantly ripped from GW |
| 02:27.54 | Garoun|Loupana | Shadow Step is the name Guild Wars gave to their abilities that let the Assasin class basically warp to the target to do "something" |
| 02:27.57 | zenzelezz | didn't sound so to me... similar, but not stolen |
| 02:27.57 | Guillotine | I was thinking the same thing earlier. Its why I was sure it was fake |
| 02:28.22 | Garoun|Loupana | I mean I was about to ask why people were talking about Guild Wars earlier when I saw it in passing :) |
| 02:28.29 | Kirkburn | It's odd, but it's not entirely an uncommon cobination of words |
| 02:28.40 | Garoun|Loupana | I havent played my GW account in 3 months and I immediately thought GW when I saw it |
| 02:28.45 | zenzelezz | and next you want Taunt to be renamed because some other game has used it? |
| 02:29.02 | Garoun|Loupana | nope |
| 02:29.22 | Kirkburn | I do think it should be renamed, but I don't think there's a need to jump to conclusions too fast |
| 02:29.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I have no problems with reusing things, it just struck me as odd since it isnt' all that comon |
| 02:29.52 | Garoun|Loupana | common |
| 02:29.57 | Kirkburn | Even if it's just a tiny changes like "Shadowy Steps" |
| 02:30.14 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.19 | Garoun|Loupana | yep, if I saw that, I never would have thought "isn't that from GW" |
| 02:31.10 | Guillotine | woohoo! test server is back up! |
| 02:31.10 | zenzelezz | http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=223127 |
| 02:31.24 | zenzelezz | some names aren't really very uncommon |
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| 02:33.01 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, you win this one Zenze :P but I would have won if it wasn't for those pesky kids and their dog |
| 02:33.10 | [Wobin] | hehe |
| 02:33.13 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 02:33.19 | [Wobin] | They should call it StealthBlink |
| 02:33.31 | Garoun|Loupana | Blink^2 |
| 02:34.12 | Garoun|Loupana | I don't mind admitting my fault :) especially when good facts are presented |
| 02:34.30 | Guillotine | dammit. Druid stealth still isn't fixed :/ |
| 02:34.39 | din` | i thought shadowstep had been in the files for a while |
| 02:35.20 | Garoun|Loupana | waht's wrong with it Guill? |
| 02:35.22 | zenzelezz | it could be they did take heavy inspiration from GW, I'm not arguing that, I only think the name (especially in this case) is pretty common; seeing how shadows always get associated with hiding/stealth and such |
| 02:35.26 | [Wobin] | what does Circle of Healing do? |
| 02:35.54 | Thunder_Child | heals in a cricle |
| 02:35.58 | Guillotine | Garoun: if you ever wore 4 pieces of the pvp set, feline swiftness slows you down while stealthed instead of speeding you up |
| 02:36.11 | Garoun|Loupana | don't say that :/ |
| 02:36.26 | Garoun|Loupana | my druid where's 4 piece pvp set |
| 02:36.37 | Garoun|Loupana | but my build doesn't have FS and probably never will |
| 02:36.54 | Garoun|Loupana | wears |
| 02:38.16 | Garoun|Loupana | I like the new login screen |
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| 02:38.38 | Kaso | i was expecting a new FMV :< |
| 02:39.06 | Garoun|Loupana | at release, I had mentioned that a few lines up :) |
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| 02:40.13 | Garoun|Loupana | welp, I'm all patched up, just have to wait for the key now |
| 02:40.56 | Kirkburn | Test: How many times can we get the word 'key' into the channel over the next four days :P |
| 02:41.07 | Shadowed | 5013 |
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| 02:41.37 | zenzelezz | can't get an accurate count, "key" is a valid word for code talk too :-o |
| 02:42.07 | Kirkburn | Aww:http://www.funnyanimalvideos.com/rabbit-videos/bunny-letter-opener/ |
| 02:42.11 | Wobble | hm |
| 02:42.17 | Kaso | So, for us EU people who arent used to it, how does the whole charater coping thing work |
| 02:42.29 | Wobble | trainable cloak of shadows =P |
| 02:42.42 | Kaso | can i borrow my friends gold so i have several thoseand then copy? |
| 02:42.42 | Guillotine | dammit. Hellfire Fortifications is completely borken now. they also removed /bug and /suggest |
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| 02:43.14 | Kirkburn | Kaso, I don't see why not |
| 02:43.59 | Kirkburn | In fact, that's an excellent idea |
| 02:44.16 | Kaso | haha |
| 02:44.20 | Kirkburn | My housemate obviously has a good methodof recourse if I try to steal it, so he might allow me to try it :P |
| 02:45.02 | Kaso | i wonder if there is anything else i should get a horde of before i transfer |
| 02:45.09 | Kaso | maybe some flasks of sup power |
| 02:45.18 | Kaso | :> |
| 02:45.39 | Kaso | not that i'll need any of this, for sitting in orgrimar, testing addons of course! |
| 02:45.47 | Kirkburn | natch |
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| 02:46.44 | Kaso | man my spelling sucks tonight |
| 02:48.04 | Fanook | speaking of testing, is there an easier way to reload the ui than relogging? My reload macro no longer works :( |
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| 02:48.22 | Kaso | ./run ReloadUI() |
| 02:48.43 | Kaso | or better yet get SlashRL mod, cuts it down to /rl which owns if your doing it alot |
| 02:49.34 | Kirkburn | Heh, nice post by Eyonix: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44434621&sid=1 |
| 02:50.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:51.24 | Fanook | i like Drokthul's response :) |
| 02:51.32 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 02:52.28 | zenzelezz | "4 to discuss how Paladins need to be fixed " o_O |
| 02:53.22 | zenzelezz | I bet changing the light bulb makes Onyxia deep-breath more |
| 02:57.25 | Kaso | Maldivia: is upload done yet? |
| 02:57.33 | Maldivia | ohh yeah :) |
| 02:58.09 | Kirkburn | *cough* |
| 02:58.27 | Kaso | spelt it write this time i see |
| 02:58.32 | Maldivia | baah |
| 02:58.54 | Kirkburn | 97.5MB :O |
| 02:59.03 | Kaso | right right right! learn to bloody write kaso |
| 02:59.29 | Maldivia | now see... I didn't comment on that! |
| 02:59.56 | Kaso | im loving the download speed off your site |
| 03:00.03 | Kirkburn | mmmmm |
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| 03:00.09 | Kirkburn | neooww |
| 03:01.35 | Maldivia | kaso: what are you getting? |
| 03:01.45 | Kaso | 750k |
| 03:02.37 | Kirkburn | 438 (my max) |
| 03:03.05 | Maldivia | Ok |
| 03:03.17 | Maldivia | I can download from that server with 6-7 MB/sec :) |
| 03:03.31 | Kaso | showoff :> |
| 03:03.50 | Kaso | what happened to that Link Intercepter on the US forums ? |
| 03:05.14 | Wobin | Did it get intercepted? =P |
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| 03:15.33 | Kirkburn | Wob, Wobble, Wobin and [Wobin]. Can I say ... http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/pc.jpg |
| 03:15.54 | [Wobin] | *yoink* |
| 03:16.01 | Kirkburn | Ow? |
| 03:17.10 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 03:17.28 | Kirkburn | I fear my bed is calling me ... oh crap, and I forgot to put my phone on to charge :/ I hope no-one tried to fone me ... (yes, yes they would, thankyouverymuch) |
| 03:17.37 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
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| 03:17.52 | Wobble | WT(Stab) intarweb connection |
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| 03:18.07 | Kirkburn | hehe Wobble |
| 03:18.15 | Kirkburn | G'night Cairenn, All! |
| 03:18.18 | malreth | woohoo! i'm dying to spiders in ZG! |
| 03:18.45 | Kirkburn | woo! |
| 03:18.59 | Wobble | bah |
| 03:19.06 | Kaso | malreth are you a mage? |
| 03:19.50 | malreth | yah |
| 03:20.45 | malreth | we don't have anyone to hold aggro so all the aoe'ers are dying on every pull |
| 03:21.29 | Maldivia | just single target dps them down... much easier... |
| 03:21.34 | Maldivia | or well, you dont die as a mage :) |
| 03:21.57 | Kaso | or why not tell your healers to heal one main mage and have him hold aggro |
| 03:22.14 | Kaso | with 5 healers on a mage he aint gonna die |
| 03:23.00 | Maldivia | except when you have 10 spiders hitting on you for 400-500 damage every second |
| 03:23.07 | Maldivia | and you only have around 4k health |
| 03:23.44 | Kaso | the mage-tank method works fine for us in ZG,BWL,AQ and naxx. |
| 03:23.59 | Kaso | as long as you spank heals its usually np |
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| 03:24.19 | Maldivia | spam-heals are necessary, yeah |
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| 03:24.53 | Wobster | *sigh* |
| 03:24.57 | Maldivia | to be honest, wouldn't trust the healers in our ZG raids to spam heal :) |
| 03:25.05 | Maldivia | so I single target dps :) |
| 03:25.08 | malreth | well, we're done with the spiders |
| 03:25.10 | Kaso | haha |
| 03:25.15 | Thunder_Child | stacking hot's in BC is going to help |
| 03:25.15 | malreth | i lived this time |
| 03:26.56 | Wobster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLcbT7uR7k |
| 03:26.59 | Wobster | shadowstep |
| 03:27.05 | Wobster | bunny =( |
| 03:27.36 | Kaso | Murderer! |
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| 03:30.46 | Kaso | That skill needs to be nurfed, its clearly overpowered agaisnt bunnies |
| 03:30.58 | Wobin | poor widdle bunny |
| 03:31.02 | Wobin | poor widdle wabbit |
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| 03:35.44 | Kaso | I wonder if it removes Immobilizing effects |
| 03:36.06 | Maldivia | shadowstep, ambush, kindney... restealth... |
| 03:36.14 | Maldivia | rinse repeat |
| 03:36.41 | Maldivia | no longer have to fear perception etc |
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| 03:42.06 | Wobin | Kaso: That's what Cloak of Shadows is for |
| 03:42.06 | Wobin | hm |
| 03:42.06 | Wobin | no wait that's just for dots |
| 03:42.07 | Wobin | just make a gnome rogue =P |
| 03:42.32 | Maldivia | dwarf rogue |
| 03:42.49 | Wobin | does stoneform remove immobilizing effects? |
| 03:42.51 | Kaso | i guess it must remove roots, its be pretty stupid blinking across the room to appaer at behind someone your feet still incased in ice |
| 03:43.25 | Wobin | 'lo Iriel |
| 03:43.49 | Wobin | Kaso: Nah, you'll just leave your feet behind =) |
| 03:43.54 | Kaso | haha |
| 03:44.14 | Iriel | Lo |
| 03:45.55 | Maldivia | Kaso: well, it wouldn't be the first time a blink-spell would do that :) |
| 03:46.34 | Kaso | hm? |
| 03:47.04 | Maldivia | I skipped a few lined... |
| 03:47.06 | Maldivia | lines .) |
| 03:47.51 | Maldivia | but I've blinked before, to get out of roots, just to find out, I was still rooted when I has blinked |
| 03:48.11 | Maldivia | and its gettting too late for me to write so people can understand me |
| 03:48.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh man |
| 03:48.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | the latest patch changes for druids are pretty damn nice |
| 03:48.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can't wait for the patch notes so we can see what gets changed that the beta guys may have missed |
| 03:49.37 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: what changes |
| 03:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> Pots/bandages/consumables useable in feral forms. |
| 03:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> Mangle gives a 30% increase to shred damage, and the bleed increase is also 30% I believe. |
| 03:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> Procs useable in feral forms. |
| 03:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> Shapeshift lowered to ~45% base mana. |
| 03:49.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mr_Rabies2> Shredding attacks reduces shred by 18 energy. |
| 03:49.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | so far |
| 03:49.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | from what the beta guys have found |
| 03:50.22 | Maldivia | nice |
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| 03:50.43 | Kaso | the image or a bear bandaging itself is quite amusing to me |
| 03:50.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm all about the small nagging things about forms being fixed |
| 03:50.57 | SP|Sorren | procs in feral eh? |
| 03:51.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | the image of a bear checking his mail is pretty funny |
| 03:51.18 | [Wobin] | I love the catform gathering animation |
| 03:51.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | "this is in chinese, i can't read this" *throws out* |
| 03:51.59 | [Wobin] | although if the bandaging animation is the druid licking a paw and grooming, I'd be squeeing =P |
| 03:52.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | "HELLO GREAT FRIEND BUY GOLD USD =10G BUY NOW FROM WOWGOLDHOLYCRAP.COM" |
| 03:52.13 | Garoun|Loupana | wait... pots in form, being able to have crusader on my mace.... something's wrong here |
| 03:52.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'm sure the procs are proc per minute |
| 03:52.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | so it's not really like a 1.0 speed is a big deal with em |
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| 03:52.55 | Garoun|Loupana | yeah, but a proc is a proc :) |
| 03:53.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | indeed |
| 03:53.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | a small change on the surface that should have been there since release |
| 03:53.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | in reality is a pretty nice buff if you put time into it |
| 03:53.43 | cladhaire | Hand of Edward the Odd just got a bit more exciting for PVP/Feral =) |
| 03:53.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=earthwardencl8.jpg |
| 03:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | check that. |
| 03:54.00 | Garoun|Loupana | mace of unyielding for me :) |
| 03:54.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | if you can hold your amazement after these changes and that |
| 03:54.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | you're less excitable than the average bear |
| 03:55.02 | Garoun|Loupana | guess I'm grinding CE rep |
| 03:55.24 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm a feral tank ;) so yeah my eyes lit up |
| 03:55.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | twenty |
| 03:55.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | three |
| 03:55.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | hundred armor |
| 03:55.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | untalented. |
| 03:55.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | in bear/moonkin |
| 03:55.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | from one mace |
| 03:55.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | plus feral combat skill rating |
| 03:56.06 | Garoun|Loupana | it'll go well with at 10500-11k I have right now :P |
| 03:56.43 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: there are weaposn with out tp +960 AP |
| 03:57.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | wha |
| 03:57.08 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: make that 1125! |
| 03:57.26 | Maldivia | up to |
| 03:57.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | link! |
| 03:57.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | RAYBEEZ DEMANDS IT |
| 03:57.59 | Maldivia | sorry, cant |
| 03:58.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | :| |
| 03:58.25 | Maldivia | but that earthwarden mace... looks realy nice |
| 03:58.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | not in the thottbot database yet? |
| 03:58.32 | Maldivia | just missing some stats :) |
| 03:58.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, it's the first feral mace with decent armor on it |
| 03:58.43 | Garoun|Loupana | there's a really good ring I believe out there for druids also |
| 03:58.51 | Garoun|Loupana | and it's in the first zone |
| 03:59.36 | malreth | so... when someone gets mind controlled by a jinxed hoodoo pile... do you all try to kill them as fast as possible? because that's what we do and it's so much fun! |
| 03:59.37 | Garoun|Loupana | one of the quest rewards |
| 03:59.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah pretty much malreth |
| 04:00.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i got cb ambushed in caster form once |
| 04:00.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | good times |
| 04:00.19 | Maldivia | Mr_Rabies: nope, not in the thottbot yet, the 1125 was just added this push |
| 04:00.22 | [Wobin] | malreth: Totally =) |
| 04:00.32 | [Wobin] | I stealth near the hoodoo picker just in case =) |
| 04:00.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i root them generally for maximum rockage |
| 04:01.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | make sure the locks throw up 2 or 3 curses of doom, if that's still possible |
| 04:01.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | nothing like watching your rogue fall over and a bigass doom guard show up |
| 04:02.18 | Maldivia | think the only remaining bug with curse of doom, is spell reflection |
| 04:04.24 | Maldivia | uhh... leatherworkers can make "drums"? |
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| 04:05.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 04:05.01 | Wobble | drums? |
| 04:05.14 | Wobble | What will these... drums.... do? |
| 04:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | blacksmiths get these awesome axes |
| 04:05.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | and it's like |
| 04:05.23 | Maldivia | Drums of Restoration |
| 04:05.23 | Maldivia | Restores 750 health and mana to nearby party members over 15 sec. |
| 04:05.35 | Wobble | A trinket? |
| 04:05.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | leatherworkers, you can use this awesome mace that does 10 million dps to make noise with! HOORJ!1 |
| 04:05.40 | Maldivia | dont know |
| 04:06.04 | Maldivia | dont know if it's trinket, one-time-use items, items with charges... what.. |
| 04:06.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | how long does thottbot take to update generally |
| 04:06.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | aka start getting items from the last push? |
| 04:06.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | a few days? |
| 04:07.14 | Maldivia | ohh, miners can turn primal (...) into Mote of (...) now |
| 04:08.09 | Maldivia | and leatherworkers can make resistance armor kits now |
| 04:08.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm a leatherworker/enchanter at the moment |
| 04:09.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't know what i should drop for bc |
| 04:09.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | i guess leather and pick up....jewelcrafting? |
| 04:10.56 | Wobble | leather is one of the easiest to relevel at least |
| 04:11.02 | Wobble | er |
| 04:11.03 | Wobble | skinning |
| 04:11.18 | Wobble | leatheworking, not so much =P |
| 04:11.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 04:11.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | i make no money with leather |
| 04:11.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | and i make a ton with enchanting |
| 04:12.02 | SP|Sorren | ~devtools |
| 04:12.12 | purl | methinks devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
| 04:12.12 | SP|Sorren | poo |
| 04:12.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm thinking about dropping leather and picking something else up |
| 04:12.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe herbalism |
| 04:12.28 | SP|Sorren | there it is |
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| 04:24.08 | Guillotine | I think I may have just adoped a cat o.O |
| 04:24.27 | Guillotine | no collar or tag, but shes too trusting to be a wild cat imo |
| 04:25.27 | Cairenn | awww |
| 04:25.43 | Cairenn | put up posters/contact the local shelter |
| 04:25.54 | Cairenn | may be some little kid crying over their lost kitty |
| 04:26.24 | Cairenn | local veterinarians too |
| 04:26.48 | Thunder_Child | mocha may need a playmate |
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| 04:27.41 | dreyruugr | Anyone know anything about :GetRect()? |
| 04:28.15 | Wobin | isn't that for the clickable range? |
| 04:28.37 | Guillotine | Cairenn: I would, but I think it may just be a wandering cat. She's walked past my house the last 3 nights, tonight is just the first time I've gone to pet her |
| 04:28.38 | dreyruugr | dunno |
| 04:28.42 | dreyruugr | it's not on wowwiki |
| 04:28.52 | Guillotine | I know plenty of cats that just wander outside sometimes |
| 04:30.25 | Cairenn | and (at least around here) lots of people let their cats be outdoor cats, doesn't mean they are strays |
| 04:32.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://beef.sensurround.net/catfury.jpg |
| 04:32.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | !!! |
| 04:32.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | awesome! :D |
| 04:33.01 | dreyruugr | ? |
| 04:33.22 | Mr_Rabies2 | windfury |
| 04:33.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | in catform |
| 04:33.31 | dreyruugr | that's new? |
| 04:33.38 | dreyruugr | <-- not a druid |
| 04:33.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | used to druids couldn't have any procs |
| 04:33.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | or use any items |
| 04:34.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | or open chests |
| 04:34.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | or talk to npcs |
| 04:34.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | in forms |
| 04:34.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm not sure about chests but the rest works in forms now |
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| 04:41.15 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:41.26 | Cairenn | hey ckknight |
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| 04:43.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://homepage.mac.com/coreathlete/BC/T4.jpg |
| 04:43.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | unffffff |
| 04:45.27 | MentalPower | do you have a screenshot of the look? |
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| 04:46.58 | ckknight | lvl 64 draenei? |
| 04:47.46 | MentalPower | that looks like an NPC to me |
| 04:48.37 | ckknight | you're righgt |
| 04:48.38 | ckknight | right* |
| 04:51.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | MentalPower |
| 04:51.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | they're placeholders atm |
| 04:51.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | only the healer set has a graphic atm |
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| 04:51.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | the feral and moonkin ones are dreamwalker |
| 04:52.34 | MentalPower | ah, IC |
| 04:52.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah, they're called something malorne |
| 04:52.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | which explains why they have even weirder antlers than cenarion or stormrage |
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| 04:53.59 | wob | hm |
| 04:54.00 | wob | Last week, the White House said, "We never actually used the phrase stay the course." Yes, and we have always been at war with Eurasia. |
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| 05:20.48 | Tuller | whee, 100 bagnon windows |
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| 05:21.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | dammit someone get me a beta invite kthx :x |
| 05:22.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wanna try crusader out |
| 05:22.14 | Shadowed | Mr_Rabies: go submit a mod to wowi |
| 05:22.17 | MentalPower | go upload to WoWI |
| 05:22.23 | Shadowed | s/mod/useful mod/ |
| 05:22.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | lol |
| 05:22.40 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
| 05:22.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | if only i knew lua :P |
| 05:22.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i would make an awesome mod |
| 05:23.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | like one that played the transformers noise on shapeshifting, and played Time Warp from the Rocky Horror Picture show when Chromaggus Time Lapses |
| 05:25.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://users.adelphia.net/~donmoyer/images/wow/heart1.jpg |
| 05:25.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://users.adelphia.net/~donmoyer/images/wow/heart2.jpg |
| 05:25.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://users.adelphia.net/~donmoyer/images/wow/heart3.jpg |
| 05:25.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | Awesome. |
| 05:26.54 | Shadowed | .... |
| 05:26.57 | Shadowed | whats the heart totme? |
| 05:27.02 | Shadowed | oh |
| 05:27.02 | Shadowed | i see |
| 05:27.08 | Shadowed | er totem* |
| 05:28.28 | Silviu- | anyone with finished enGB patch can help out seed for 5 mins ? :) is bad to stay for 7 h at 99% :P |
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| 05:38.27 | Corr[home] | "No one single [hunter] ability is a "must have" MORE than Hawk Eye." |
| 05:38.48 | Corr[home] | 6 yards... doesn't sound like all that much, to me. am i missing something? |
| 05:39.22 | Shadowed | yes :p |
| 05:40.13 | Shadowed | some fights you need more range to be able to do anything, and in pvp it's useful all the time |
| 05:40.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | that bonus is amazing in pvp |
| 05:41.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont think its a MUST HAVE but its very nice |
| 05:41.19 | Corr[home] | i'm so terrible at converting "yards" to in-game distance. is it actually that far? :o |
| 05:41.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | to me, lethal shots is better |
| 05:41.38 | Corr[home] | hurricane has a range of 30y and i have a decent idea of how far that is. one fifth of that isn't all that much. |
| 05:41.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, it's amazing for kiting people |
| 05:42.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | because only mages can attack from that far, with generally either slow or weak spells |
| 05:42.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can attack from one yard further out than you can heal from on your druid, corr |
| 05:43.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | go to max range for healing touch and take a step back |
| 05:43.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's how far you can shoot from |
| 05:44.15 | Corr[home] | i have to attach my external drive before i can start WoW, but i guess i have to take your word for it that 6y makes all the difference |
| 05:44.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's very nice when people can't attack you and you can attack them |
| 05:45.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6 yards while slowed is a long time to get more shots in |
| 05:45.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd say lethal shots (or mortal, whichever one gives bonuses to crit damage) |
| 05:45.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | is better |
| 05:48.03 | Cairenn | not to be nit-picky, but he didn't say it makes "all the difference", he said it makes "a difference" |
| 05:48.36 | Shadowed | Let me put it this way |
| 05:48.52 | Corr[home] | well, the author of the quote i mentioned certainly meant it makes all the difference, if it's must-have |
| 05:48.54 | Shadowed | it's a nice ability, and you'll always find it useful, I would personally take it over anything else |
| 05:49.51 | Cairenn | Crispix: boy are you ever behind on the times :p |
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| 05:51.00 | Corr[home] | i haven't played a hunter much. i guess i'm just really bad at the whole process of keeping things at a certain range. on the others i've played, range management is mostly just "run forward" |
| 05:51.34 | Crispix | Cairenn hon, I've been working too much... -_- |
| 05:51.48 | Cairenn | well, he's in, we got him in a couple days ago |
| 05:51.56 | Crispix | Great :D |
| 05:52.32 | Crispix | Have you been in it yet Cairenn? |
| 05:52.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:52.44 | Crispix | I'm thinking about making a level 1 Blood Elf Warlock.... |
| 05:52.44 | Cairenn | I've been in since F&F Alpha |
| 05:52.53 | Shadowed | Cairenn cheats |
| 05:53.11 | Cairenn | heh, yeah, I have F&F in the gaming industry |
| 05:53.24 | Crispix | Shadowed Cairenn can cheat all she wants.. just as long as she continues to give me that sweet loving and loving feeling she always does. |
| 05:53.38 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 05:53.43 | Crispix | So my friend called me when I hit the 50% mark on the beta.. |
| 05:53.48 | Cairenn | boy, you've been having some good dreams, haven't you? |
| 05:53.58 | Crispix | I said 'So uh.. I'm 50% downloading something... and your going to want to kill me.' |
| 05:54.17 | Crispix | 'What are you downloading....." 'Wow .. bc.... beta.." |
| 05:54.33 | Crispix | The next thing I hear is my phone saying 'If you'd like to make a call.. please hang up and dial again. |
| 05:54.40 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:54.44 | Crispix | I hang up.. 10 secodns later my friend is on his cell phone. |
| 05:54.56 | Crispix | 'I'm on my way over.. DONT EVEN START IT' |
| 05:55.03 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 05:55.52 | Crispix | So yeah. tonight.. I create a blood elf rogue and a daranie warlock |
| 05:56.07 | Crispix | juust to see what they're like |
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| 05:57.55 | Crispix | Its teh wobbster! |
| 05:57.59 | Crispix | hiya bud |
| 05:59.31 | Corr[home] | all that research i did on hunters and i had no idea. argh. |
| 05:59.34 | Cairenn | Crispix dear, down boy, take your valium |
| 05:59.51 | Crispix | What'd you have no idea on corr? |
| 05:59.57 | Crispix | Valium is over-rated. |
| 06:00.04 | Crispix | Diazaphram is the new cool |
| 06:00.40 | Corr[home] | that the "+6 yards to attack range" talent is apparently incredibly useful |
| 06:00.48 | Crispix | yeah |
| 06:00.50 | Crispix | its insanely helpful |
| 06:00.56 | Corr[home] | so what i wonder is how you're supposed to keep people that far away |
| 06:00.59 | Crispix | six yards doesn't seem much.. but.. yeah... |
| 06:01.10 | zenzelezz | think it depends on your playstyle |
| 06:01.13 | Crispix | Simple.. send in your pet, run back six yards... |
| 06:01.51 | Crispix | o.O |
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| 06:01.55 | Corr[home] | what part of having a pet attack me keeps me from running toward you? |
| 06:01.59 | Crispix | did I lose my connection again? |
| 06:02.10 | Crispix | Corr its ment for PVErs |
| 06:02.27 | Corr[home] | i understood it mostly as being for PvP from the conversation i just read. :/ |
| 06:02.28 | Crispix | I think 10 yards is cut off for a duel anyway |
| 06:02.30 | SP|Sorren` | intimidation keeps people from running towards me >.> |
| 06:03.15 | Corr[home] | so... what's the use of being another 6 yards away from a mob who isn't attacking you? |
| 06:03.29 | Corr[home] | or is this for if and when you draw aggro? |
| 06:03.38 | Crispix | when you draw the agro |
| 06:03.47 | Crispix | I send my pet in, move back six yards.. hammer away at it |
| 06:04.21 | Crispix | Put it this way: The farther I am away from the thing my pet is agroing, the safer I'll be from attacks from the thing after it kills my pet (if it does) |
| 06:05.40 | Crispix | Cairenn, I don't want to break your heart, but come the 19th of November, I may not be seen much, or say much at all.. |
| 06:05.44 | Crispix | more than normal. |
| 06:05.56 | Cairenn | I'll try to survive it |
| 06:05.58 | Crispix | I paid off my nintendo wii and zelda twilight princess today :D |
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| 06:07.05 | Corr[home] | i've barely touched my hunter in 8 months... maybe i just need to reconnect to really understand |
| 06:07.23 | Crispix | *nod* |
| 06:07.26 | Crispix | Possibly so. |
| 06:07.37 | zenzelezz | you know Corr, just because someone else says they like the talent doesn't mean you're forced to take it :-p |
| 06:07.42 | Crispix | I haven't touched the character I'm named for on this chat, for moths too... |
| 06:08.01 | Crispix | I find it hard to go into Hunters after acclimating (ooh big word..) to my rogue. |
| 06:08.30 | Crispix | Going from EXTREME close range.. to extreme distance, it just feels weird as heck :D |
| 06:08.34 | kaiden | hey guys, is there a TBC copy of the wowwiki api? |
| 06:08.44 | Corr[home] | you can say that, zenzelezz, but if i'm the only person who doesn't understand the usefulness of something that most other people say is great, i get a little concerned that i'm doing it "wrong" |
| 06:08.44 | Cairenn | nope |
| 06:08.46 | Shadowed | don't think so |
| 06:08.53 | kaiden | trying to find the function to invoke the blizzard feedback ui for my roommate |
| 06:09.05 | kaiden | apparently they lost their feedback buttons today due to some patch |
| 06:09.10 | kaiden | *patiently waits for his key* :) |
| 06:09.12 | Cairenn | yup |
| 06:09.13 | Corr[home] | as if a priest didn't know what +healing was good for |
| 06:09.29 | zenzelezz | sod what others think |
| 06:09.32 | zenzelezz | you're playing to have fun |
| 06:10.27 | Corr[home] | that's just not me |
| 06:12.01 | Crispix | Nine minutes until I can make a Daranie Warlock. :O |
| 06:12.20 | Crispix | nine minutes isn't fast enough. |
| 06:12.32 | Silviu- | Crispix u still need to download the patch :> |
| 06:12.33 | Shadowed | nine minutes until i get into this WSG game! |
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| 06:12.50 | Cairenn | *patchES* |
| 06:12.52 | Crispix | Silviu- I don't think so.. I'm dling the latest version or so it said |
| 06:13.18 | Silviu- | Cairenn et enGB is only one |
| 06:13.21 | Silviu- | 356 MB |
| 06:13.30 | Silviu- | And all stuck at 99% :)) |
| 06:17.17 | Crispix | bah |
| 06:17.26 | Crispix | I forgot I need to preheat the oven to 350 :( |
| 06:25.04 | End | urk, we've been having many issues with bwl tonight...people getting disconnected, and then getting ported "because it's not their instance". now people zoning in are in the wrong instance |
| 06:25.25 | End | some of our members could do bwl twice this week I suppose ;p |
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| 06:28.44 | Crispix | yay! |
| 06:28.53 | Crispix | I'm officially upgraded to Burning Crusade. |
| 06:29.50 | Thunder_Child | Gratz |
| 06:29.55 | Silviu- | gz ;) |
| 06:30.59 | Crispix | o.O |
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| 06:31.22 | Crispix | it's taking an uncommonly long time to copy Common.mpq :| |
| 06:31.32 | Crispix | ohh |
| 06:31.39 | Crispix | It went from 5 to 6% :O |
| 06:31.45 | Silviu- | ;))) |
| 06:33.17 | Crispix | I can't believe I got into the beta because my friend whos a manager hates WoW.. and plays Guild Wars.. |
| 06:35.48 | Cairenn | ~emulate Tem |
| 06:35.50 | purl | Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]! |
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| 06:55.17 | ckknight | Crispix, hehe |
| 06:55.29 | SP|Sorren` | question: if you update the toc, do you need to restart WoW? |
| 06:55.56 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:56.19 | SP|Sorren` | thx |
| 06:57.20 | Crispix | ckknight? |
| 06:57.37 | ckknight | Crispix, regarding you getting a key |
| 06:57.44 | Crispix | oh :) |
| 07:01.22 | Crispix | dang... |
| 07:01.26 | Crispix | I'm 78% done installing |
| 07:01.27 | Crispix | o.O |
| 07:01.29 | Crispix | big beta |
| 07:04.51 | Cairenn | *sobs* |
| 07:05.04 | SP|Sorren` | hm? |
| 07:05.08 | Cairenn | How long after i download a addons/interfaces to it be registrated, have profil and its says noen registrated, have downloaded 5-6 addons the last days, nut i dont get registrated. I dont use same passwords so i use in the game, but same username. We have several lvl 60 players now (so far 4 off them, 1 horde rest ally on the server Khagdar) Â Hope it will be registrated soon. Â Best regards from Svein To |
| 07:05.22 | Cairenn | I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean? You have downloaded addons and you can't figure out how to get them working in game? Take a look at our FAQ section, it explains how to install them so that they will work.  If this isn't what you mean, could you try to explain further please.  Cairenn Administrator WoWInterface |
| 07:05.33 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:05.49 | Silviu- | ;P |
| 07:05.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That's nothing short of /awesome/ |
| 07:05.50 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:05.52 | Cairenn | The keys are for mod AUTHORS, not mod USERS. Sorry. Cairenn Administrator WoWInterface |
| 07:06.04 | Cairenn | what shall i do for beeing a authors then? |
| 07:06.19 | SP|Sorren` | i hope english isn't this guy's first language ;p |
| 07:06.23 | Corr[home] | tell him to use drugs! |
| 07:06.36 | Cairenn | Do you write mods for WoW? If so, upload them to WoWInterface. Cairenn Administrator WoWInterface |
| 07:06.43 | Crispix | OH CRAP |
| 07:06.47 | Crispix | its done installing :O |
| 07:06.53 | Cairenn | heh, have fun Crispix |
| 07:07.03 | Corr[home] | find bugs |
| 07:07.08 | Crispix | now I need to wait for my friend to get here so I can start it and see the opening with him |
| 07:07.33 | Thunder_Child | it's the same |
| 07:07.48 | Crispix | is it? |
| 07:07.56 | Crispix | No extended opening or anything? |
| 07:07.59 | Cairenn | is it any frigging wonder I get a little squirrelly by times? |
| 07:08.03 | Thunder_Child | the new one wont be untill the release |
| 07:08.08 | Crispix | ooh |
| 07:08.08 | Crispix | ok |
| 07:08.12 | Corr[home] | betas are for finding bugs, silly |
| 07:08.21 | Thunder_Child | and bitching |
| 07:08.25 | Corr[home] | silly rabbit |
| 07:08.32 | Silviu- | Not even a BC movie in cinematics same old movie ;( |
| 07:08.51 | ScytheBlade1 | NOT QUITE! |
| 07:08.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 07:08.53 | Shadowed | and releasing videos of overpowered talents, getting them nerfed and getting an item named after you! |
| 07:09.06 | ScytheBlade1 | If you know what you're doing, you can get a glimpse into the new movie |
| 07:09.31 | Thunder_Child | they should of had a little video of the dev's welcomeing ppl and telling them to enjoy the beta |
| 07:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Turn on Cinematic Subtitles and go watch it |
| 07:10.16 | kaiden | poor Cairenn, i just read that e-mail you got :) |
| 07:11.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:11.22 | Thunder_Child | hopefilly they will make BC's cinematics work with a non-fullscreen game |
| 07:11.23 | Cairenn | a day in the life |
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| 07:12.39 | Thunder_Child | Such dedication! |
| 07:13.09 | Thunder_Child | and lack of....errmmm....nvm |
| 07:13.20 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 07:13.52 | Cairenn | that was in reference to you guys talking about the cimematics |
| 07:14.36 | kaiden | Well SP|Sorren` his name is Sven so i doubt english is his first language.. not even second or third or fourth it read like ;) |
| 07:14.38 | Thunder_Child | well i didnt think you were refering to the e-mail |
| 07:15.07 | kaiden | so cairenn when will i be registrated? :p |
| 07:15.26 | Cairenn | aye, I wasn't complaining in the slightest about his grammer, it's very obvious that english isn't his first language |
| 07:15.27 | kaiden | for use in the mods to the TBC wow yes? |
| 07:15.35 | Cairenn | just the content |
| 07:15.46 | kaiden | well i for one thought his e-mail was cute |
| 07:15.49 | kaiden | :) |
| 07:16.51 | ckknight | Cairenn, I downloaded like 3 mods yesterday, why am I not in TBC yet? |
| 07:16.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 07:17.02 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 07:17.29 | Cairenn | I mean, in a way I feel bad |
| 07:17.35 | Cairenn | he obviously didn't understand |
| 07:17.41 | Cairenn | but still |
| 07:17.47 | Cairenn | *bangs her head on her desk* |
| 07:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Well... that IS what you get for stating "FREE BETA KEYS HERE" |
| 07:21.04 | Cairenn | the first three words in the title of the post on the front page of the site: "Massive Mod Author" |
| 07:21.37 | Cairenn | :p |
| 07:21.56 | Thunder_Child | sounds like some author has a hucge mod |
| 07:22.00 | Thunder_Child | huge* |
| 07:22.01 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 07:28.28 | Thunder_Child | i cant wait untill they bring fiber to the door so i dont have to wait for an hour to DL 2gb of stuff |
| 07:31.47 | ckknight | and I'll have a jet pack that I'll fly to work on |
| 07:31.52 | ckknight | it'll be awesome, Thunder_Child |
| 07:32.21 | Thunder_Child | they are alreay laying it, just not my providor...it's the other one |
| 07:32.26 | Thunder_Child | already* |
| 07:37.22 | Thunder_Child | and if you dont belive me http://www22.verizon.com/content/ConsumerFiOS/ |
| 07:38.19 | Thunder_Child | i think i would take the 15Mbps/2 Mbps for $44.95 it's close to what i am paying now for 6 |
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| 07:40.47 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
| 07:40.57 | Thunder_Child | Night Cairenn|afk |
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| 09:02.18 | SP|Sorren` | blizzar doesnt have any seeds? |
| 09:02.51 | SP|Sorren` | i guess not, or you wouldn't be asking right? :< |
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| 09:04.12 | Silviu- | No |
| 09:04.18 | Silviu- | All are at 99% |
| 09:04.20 | Silviu- | :( |
| 09:04.30 | Silviu- | From last night |
| 09:04.34 | SP|Sorren` | wow, that sucks :/ |
| 09:04.43 | SP|Sorren` | i'd help, but im US :< |
| 09:04.50 | Silviu- | np :) |
| 09:05.09 | Silviu- | And i can`t seem to find to download on any page the patch eighter |
| 09:05.45 | SP|Sorren` | you try posting on the forums? |
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| 09:06.12 | Silviu- | wowace forums or bliz |
| 09:06.51 | SP|Sorren` | both ;P |
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| 09:57.59 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is 2.0 UI Changes http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6447 | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7 | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ |
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| 10:11.19 | [Wobin] | wow. power implosion at the livejournal datacenter =P |
| 10:16.16 | MoonWolf | ? |
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| 11:20.07 | SP|Sorren` | how will i live without constantly checking livejournal!? oh noes! |
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| 11:41.22 | [Wobin] | Incidentally, does anyone use AIOI? |
| 11:41.42 | SP|Sorren` | i dumped it for a similar mod a while back that also did the bank |
| 11:41.45 | SP|Sorren` | :X |
| 11:49.15 | [Wobin] | Apparantly it does do bank now |
| 11:49.26 | [Wobin] | not that I'd recommend it =P since it doesn't appear to play well with MrPlow |
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| 12:35.05 | HelgeHan | Hello! May I asked a totally noobish question here? |
| 12:35.29 | Arx | As long as I can give a totally noobish answer =) |
| 12:35.35 | HelgeHan | :) |
| 12:36.00 | HelgeHan | How can I say something to the varios chat channels in lua script code? |
| 12:37.22 | Arx | Not a clue, looks like most folks are idling |
| 12:37.58 | HelgeHan | Okay, glad I got a reaction! :) |
| 12:38.27 | Arx | I'm more of a noob at lua than thou, I came here looking for a link to a decent tutorial. |
| 12:39.06 | HelgeHan | Yes, a link to a good ref manual would answer my question for me. |
| 12:39.29 | Arx | wowwiki.com has a list of 90% of the lua functions |
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| 12:42.17 | HelgeHan | hi ... I am back... probs with my client. |
| 12:42.53 | HelgeHan | Well thanks ... I knew about wowwiki, but your hint made me look for the big API-page again... and I found it! Thanks! |
| 12:46.34 | Arx | :P |
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| 12:52.11 | Corr[home] | wowwiki states this about the Forsaken: "Their spirits and memories were somehow returned to their undead bodies.". as i recall, that is incorrect; that is, the memories were not returned |
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| 12:57.29 | HelgeHan | aren't some quests dealing with events from the (undead) questgivers former live? |
| 12:59.15 | Corr[home] | now that you mention it, yes, i can think of a few specific such quests. |
| 13:00.13 | Corr[home] | someone said they didn't remember, but it would be strange for those questgivers to be so.. -interested- in old grudges if they just read about it in a diary or something |
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| 13:03.10 | Corr[home] | guess that person was mistaken. the article later specifically says again that they retain memories |
| 13:03.22 | Corr[home] | *that person being the one who said they don't |
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| 13:59.48 | Kirkburn | So I hear Fel Reavers have been replaced with bears :P |
| 14:00.05 | Kirkburn | (http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=254D638827AB3FD7CCB7083582288E8B?topicId=1250159&sid=1) |
| 14:06.40 | cladhaire | lol Kirkburn |
| 14:06.52 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 14:07.27 | cladhaire | omw to tame a new pet |
| 14:07.33 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:07.36 | cladhaire | my first rare pet that wasn't level 12! |
| 14:08.14 | cladhaire | err that isn't. |
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| 14:09.14 | Mery | which one you gonna get? (not that I'd know it anyway but there is still thottbot =P) |
| 14:09.22 | cladhaire | Deathmaw |
| 14:09.45 | Kirkburn | Aww, I thought you might try for a Bear Reaver |
| 14:09.55 | cladhaire | 1.2 attack lol |
| 14:10.47 | Mery | oh I once helped a friend checking for it... lol |
| 14:11.03 | Mery | I never saw it though |
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| 14:35.06 | cladhaire | and its not spawned =/ |
| 14:35.34 | zenzelezz | I've been trying to get that on my hunter, only saw it once but I was too late |
| 14:35.51 | zenzelezz | and naturally he spawns in a heavily farmed location, at least on my server |
| 14:35.58 | cladhaire | i'm going to see how painful leveling a Slavering Worg is. |
| 14:37.33 | zenzelezz | don't know why, but recently a few of our hunters seem to have acquired wolf pets and bring them to raids |
| 14:38.12 | cladhaire | Furious Howl |
| 14:38.16 | cladhaire | helps the rogues/hunters |
| 14:38.46 | zenzelezz | yeah, just don't know why they didn't use them before though :) |
| 14:44.57 | cladhaire | Didn't they change it so you could level a pet usign somethign that is green to THEM not to you? |
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| 15:03.03 | cncfanatics | ye |
| 15:03.18 | cncfanatics | cant u just lvl ur pet on 60 mobs tho ? |
| 15:03.46 | zenzelezz | low level mobs die faster |
| 15:05.31 | cladhaire | i can't have a level 19 pet tank a level 50 mob =) |
| 15:06.29 | Maldivia | heh, curse of tongue bug... cute |
| 15:06.50 | zenzelezz | what's the bug? |
| 15:07.01 | Maldivia | it decreases casting time by 60%, instead of increases :) |
| 15:07.29 | Maldivia | so due grinding... duel, cast CoT on eachother, and enjoin 1sec shadowbolts |
| 15:08.06 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:08.08 | cladhaire | neat |
| 15:08.11 | Zicon | cladhaire: No, they changed it so the pet receives exp according to its level rather than yours. You still have to kill mobs that are green or higher to you. |
| 15:09.26 | cladhaire | so he'll get shitons of experience from level 60 mobs? |
| 15:09.47 | Zicon | That's the idea, yes. |
| 15:10.31 | cladhaire | bah i already abandoned him, cause i'm soloing and couldn't do much |
| 15:11.13 | zenzelezz | do what others do, find a bot and tag "his" mobs |
| 15:11.37 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 15:12.43 | Kirkburn | Quick note: Vote vote vote!! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon |
| 15:17.02 | Kaso | i liked it when i was just Times New Roman text :< |
| 15:17.38 | Kirkburn | Yeah well ... gneh! |
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| 15:40.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://imagesocket.com/view/felbeard58.jpg |
| 15:40.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG |
| 15:41.31 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 15:48.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1250375&sid=1 |
| 15:48.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | gotta love the UI haters |
| 15:48.37 | Kirkburn | :/ |
| 15:49.41 | Kirkburn | Someone should point him towards WoWI and ask him why Blizzard gave them invites to give out ... |
| 15:49.46 | Garoun|Loupana | when in doubt, blame the ui, they always say... not I though :P |
| 15:50.31 | Mr_Rabies2 | never understood the hate for addons |
| 15:51.00 | Garoun|Loupana | people always detest something they don't understand |
| 15:51.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm an addon addict, but i still can play better than the average player without them |
| 15:51.08 | Garoun|Loupana | it's a natural thing |
| 15:51.12 | Kirkburn | Soem people are very 'conservative' in their playstyles, and don't want to try something new, or feel it may 'ruin; the experience |
| 15:51.19 | cladhaire | my laptop is taking the scenic route throgh FREAKING new jersey! |
| 15:51.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, i was wrecking people all over the ptr on a class i played for a total of 10 minutes with none of my addons |
| 15:51.31 | Kirkburn | lol cladhaire |
| 15:51.58 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm which ace library is Quixote? |
| 15:52.05 | Kirkburn | Mostyl it's people who haven't tried addons, or had a 'bad' experience with one trying to spread their ignorant views |
| 15:52.20 | Kirkburn | It's part of QuestsFu |
| 15:52.28 | Kirkburn | Seomthing to do with Quest stuff |
| 15:52.37 | Kirkburn | *Some :/ |
| 15:52.37 | Garoun|Loupana | evidently it's in bigwings now also |
| 15:52.46 | Garoun|Loupana | cause it's kicking out all sorts of errors |
| 15:53.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | god i would kill a man and wear his skin as a coat for a beta invite :x |
| 15:53.08 | Garoun|Loupana | looks like Deformat-2.0 is the issue though |
| 15:53.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to test the new druid changes >:[ |
| 15:53.32 | Kirkburn | *new* new changes, or just the new changes? |
| 15:54.19 | Kirkburn | Tree of Life? :) |
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| 15:54.54 | Garoun|Loupana | my focus will be on feral but only because I don't really have the gear to test the other 2 properly |
| 15:55.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | well i'd test everything kirk |
| 15:55.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've got good gear for everything but nuking |
| 15:56.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'd focus on feral though because i'll most likely be feral when 2.0 hits |
| 15:56.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | er |
| 15:56.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | continue to be feral |
| 15:56.59 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 15:57.13 | Kirkburn | Only feral people can gave rabies :P |
| 15:57.18 | Kirkburn | *have :/ |
| 15:57.29 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 15:57.42 | zenzelezz | I've had rabies several times while fighting various mobs |
| 15:57.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i made a druid char in diablo 2 named mr_rabies because i forgot rabies was a werewolf spell |
| 15:57.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i'm a werebear :x |
| 15:58.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | everyone's like "lol rabies rocks doesn't it?" "actually...i'm wearbear :x" |
| 15:58.24 | Kirkburn | oops :P |
| 15:58.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i hope 2.0 hits the ptr soon |
| 16:01.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | i want to find bugs, and my natural unluckiness helps me find them :D |
| 16:01.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | too bad i wouldn't be able to report them :| |
| 16:04.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | running through org and i get |
| 16:04.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | [Blag] whispers: rfc |
| 16:04.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm level 30 :x |
| 16:04.33 | zenzelezz | so? I'm 60 but get invited to Deadmines |
| 16:04.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | well that's all that i got was the word rfc |
| 16:04.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | ignored him :] |
| 16:05.11 | Kaso | what class do you play? |
| 16:05.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | mage |
| 16:05.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | well |
| 16:05.21 | Mr_Rabies2 | this char is |
| 16:05.46 | Kaso | See, as a priest, the pink spam just becomes background noise, you barely even read it |
| 16:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah about the same on my druid |
| 16:06.07 | Zicon | No kidding. |
| 16:06.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't get as many now as i used to |
| 16:06.22 | Zicon | Going from hunter to priest made for a strange experience. :p |
| 16:06.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | mostly because the server's too old for pugs |
| 16:06.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was part of the second set of servers released |
| 16:06.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | when the first set were overloaded to unplayability |
| 16:09.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh god i'm replaying this episode of ren and stimpy |
| 16:09.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | in my mind |
| 16:09.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | as it plays on the tv D: |
| 16:09.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | i haven't seen it in probably 10 years or so |
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| 17:06.21 | Qshadowp[NS] | lmao when i joined battlegrounds i had 1289KiB/s increaseing rate :D |
| 17:07.30 | Kaso | owchie |
| 17:08.03 | Qshadowp[NS] | yea :P |
| 17:08.52 | Garoun|Loupana | with 1.12, CTRA crashed me everytime I joined a BG :/ |
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| 17:25.50 | Garoun|Loupana | morn cair |
| 17:28.59 | Cairenn | morning |
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| 18:16.07 | thr | Hm |
| 18:16.12 | thr | is it possible to "colorize" a texture? |
| 18:16.25 | thr | to change it's color from say blue to green? |
| 18:25.30 | Kaso | Texture:SetVertexColor() ? |
| 18:25.51 | Hexarobi | you could always edit the texture directly |
| 18:34.04 | Cairenn | I've had it |
| 18:34.15 | Thiras2 | say what? |
| 18:34.23 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=44854593&postId=448609133&sid=1#7 |
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| 18:34.36 | Thiras2 | grr |
| 18:34.58 | Thiras2 | looks like someone already has my name on this irc network |
| 18:34.58 | Thiras2 | hmm |
| 18:35.10 | thr | Is there any way to distinguish (spelling?) two npcs with the same name from eachother? |
| 18:35.29 | thr | I mean you can fight three "Defias Looter" at the same time, is there ANY way to tell them appart ? |
| 18:35.45 | Mery | no |
| 18:35.56 | nevcairiel | if they are exactly the same, no |
| 18:36.02 | Thiras2 | no afraid thats not possible |
| 18:37.13 | nevcairiel | oh my, some people on the forums really are .. |
| 18:38.17 | Thunder_Child | gee Cairenn, you seem almost exasperated.... |
| 18:39.17 | Rogall | i fail to see how his playstyle gets ruined by the 2.0 changes |
| 18:39.19 | Rogall | =/ |
| 18:39.24 | Cairenn | it doesn't |
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| 18:39.29 | Cairenn | they are talking out of their asses |
| 18:39.38 | Cairenn | they haven't a fucking clue what they are talking about? |
| 18:39.38 | Rogall | they want decursive you mean |
| 18:39.47 | Cairenn | errr, no ? on the end of that |
| 18:40.57 | Thunder_Child | though i do notice that none fo the ppl that piosted a response is a priest |
| 18:41.05 | Thunder_Child | s/fo/of/ |
| 18:42.11 | Thunder_Child | posted* |
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| 18:46.51 | Cairenn | I edited it to add more |
| 18:47.16 | zenzelezz | they probably are priests, they just can't post as their priests because then people would know they were poor priests |
| 18:49.00 | Mery | lol |
| 18:49.10 | Vallerius | as a priest with entirely too much time /played, i'm not worried in the slightest about the changes |
| 18:49.21 | Thunder_Child | nither am i |
| 18:49.26 | Thunder_Child | neither* |
| 18:49.38 | Mery | the problem is nobody ever tried to lets say "decurse" without an addon |
| 18:50.58 | Vallerius | i used decursive once, a long time ago, before promptly deleting it. it can't prioritize targets as well as someone with a functioning brain, and is just plain lazy |
| 18:51.03 | Garoun|Loupana | I did |
| 18:51.08 | Garoun|Loupana | it's a nightmare without decursive |
| 18:51.38 | Thunder_Child | there is a replacement for it, it's simply more bulky |
| 18:53.09 | Rogall | no decursive on noth is hell |
| 18:53.17 | Rogall | then again we wont be killing noth in bc |
| 18:54.30 | Thunder_Child | people keep forgeting that there is timers in BC as well, if you cant do any other instances, you will go through the older ones |
| 18:56.06 | Vallerius | Rogall: is it really that bad? just assign each decurser their own group or two, and have at it. you can target the next decurse target before the cooldown is up |
| 18:57.09 | Rogall | well |
| 18:57.17 | Vallerius | (i don't know, i've never played in a decursing role on that fight) |
| 18:57.19 | Rogall | the thing about that is |
| 18:57.25 | Rogall | the curse kills the raid after what, 5 seconds |
| 18:57.27 | Rogall | if it goes out |
| 18:57.28 | sylvanaar | Vallerius: Noth or GWF without decursive = no |
| 18:57.42 | Rogall | now if someone falls asleep, gets a lagspike, gets disconnected, dog bites that someone in the leg |
| 18:57.44 | Rogall | you name it |
| 18:57.49 | Rogall | then youre dead |
| 18:57.58 | Rogall | what sylvanaar said :x |
| 18:57.58 | cryogen | 18:53 < Rogall> then again we wont be killing noth in bc |
| 18:58.03 | Rogall | will you? |
| 18:58.06 | cryogen | the decursive removal goes in long before bc |
| 18:58.10 | cryogen | its in the next content patch |
| 18:58.13 | Rogall | yes, i knwo |
| 18:58.14 | cryogen | which is Soon(tm) |
| 18:58.14 | Rogall | ow |
| 18:58.21 | sylvanaar | oh no, my guy is uut of range...can someone get him |
| 18:58.22 | Rogall | well, people will have to manage |
| 18:58.43 | Rogall | but until BC hits doing noth for example will be tough |
| 18:59.02 | cryogen | not undoable |
| 18:59.21 | sylvanaar | not worth doing |
| 18:59.27 | cryogen | then dont |
| 18:59.29 | cryogen | noone forces you |
| 18:59.56 | sylvanaar | im not going to...=) |
| 19:01.41 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: Noth is easy without decursive if people are paying attention |
| 19:02.21 | Shadowed | Chromaggus without decursive would be hard, Noth is easy |
| 19:02.36 | cryogen | are you kidding? (or horde) |
| 19:02.36 | sylvanaar | anyone who says something is easy if people are paying attention is an idealist |
| 19:03.21 | sylvanaar | lol k |
| 19:03.24 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: My guilds on KT and he should be dead this week. I'm not just "some guy who's never been into naxx before", i've played a priest, i've talked to people who use decursive and those who havn't. You have a ton of mods that give timers for when the curse is coming up to give you time to be ready to spam it |
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| 19:05.14 | sylvanaar | you played a priest when? what class are you now? |
| 19:05.21 | Shadowed | Warrior |
| 19:06.34 | Vallerius | well, we can find out for sure tonight. my guild is going into naxx with all decursive/ezheal-type mods off, to prepare for patch/xpack. i'll let you know how it goes |
| 19:08.01 | Shadowed | don't get me started on the ezheal mods :p |
| 19:09.56 | Vallerius | so on a lighter note, how about that new focus feature? :D |
| 19:10.40 | Shadowed | looks fine, will have to play around with it |
| 19:10.44 | Shadowed | er fine = fun |
| 19:11.22 | sylvanaar | its the same thing as having someone else keep whatever it is targeted |
| 19:12.20 | Shadowed | Which requires you to assume that somebody else will do something all the time...which is a bad method to program on. It lets you do some nice things like sheep mods |
| 19:13.53 | sylvanaar | i agree, but its the same nonetheless |
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| 19:14.43 | sylvanaar | if you can see other people's focuses -- that would be interesting |
| 19:14.52 | Vallerius | i wonder if there will be an API for setting focus (out of combat, of course) |
| 19:15.03 | Shadowed | there isn't last i heard |
| 19:15.21 | Vallerius | boo. i had plans for that : / |
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| 19:16.05 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: It's completely different |
| 19:16.37 | sylvanaar | Shadowed: how |
| 19:17.11 | Shadowed | sylvanaar: One is 100% reliable, the other is guessing and hoping. It also lets you uniquely identify mobs |
| 19:18.23 | sylvanaar | Shadowed: all i said was that the effect was the same as having someone keep it targeted. |
| 19:29.53 | Kaso | Howcome my OnEvent is getting an even before a blizzard frame is :< |
| 19:32.01 | zenzelezz | haxx |
| 19:32.42 | Kaso | its frustrating |
| 19:33.01 | Shadowed | they always do |
| 19:33.28 | Kaso | hm? |
| 19:34.43 | Shadowed | pretty sure we've always gotten events before the blizzard frames do |
| 19:37.41 | Industrial | I GOT THE BLIZZARD BETA KEY IN MY GMAIL |
| 19:37.46 | Industrial | nah, just kidding |
| 19:37.50 | Industrial | ke ke ke |
| 19:40.23 | Rogall | wrong |
| 19:40.40 | thr | Shadowed: What lets you uniquely identify mobs? ;> |
| 19:40.50 | thr | You said: "... It also lets you uniquely identify mobs .." |
| 19:40.56 | thr | where, what, how, when? ;> |
| 19:42.03 | Shadowed | one sec |
| 19:44.05 | Shadowed | My understanding of focus is that you can set a mob ( or player? ) and you'll get specific events related to that mob. So, for example you could have a macro that sets your target to focus and sheeps them, then monitors that mob using the focus events, so you don't have issues with mobs using the same name and such |
| 19:44.47 | thr | oh |
| 19:44.51 | thr | can you focus multiple mobs? |
| 19:44.52 | thr | or just one? |
| 19:45.05 | Mery | just one |
| 19:45.28 | Garoun|Loupana | that'll help progression probably keep track of a boss and what it does |
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| 19:47.52 | thr | if(UnitName("target") ~= nil) is good enough to check if the player has a target, ye? |
| 19:48.06 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 19:50.07 | Industrial | if UnitName('target') then |
| 19:50.08 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:54.00 | Tuller | if UnitExists('target') |
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| 19:57.11 | Shadowed | or that! |
| 19:59.20 | thr | Hmm, i'm working on a mod that colors the border around a debuff slot for dots if you have a dot of that type on the mob. |
| 19:59.50 | thr | Will this work in TBC? I mean, have they restricted the "editing" of the player/target frames during combat? |
| 20:00.15 | Garoun|Loupana | dunno who I was talking to about forcing ChatFrame1 to be selected on load in WoW, the OnLoad forced click didn't work but PEW worked fine |
| 20:02.38 | thr | Anyone? |
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| 20:03.14 | Shadowed | They restricted the editing of the frames, not sure if that applies to debuffs or not though |
| 20:04.03 | thr | =/ |
| 20:04.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | blarg |
| 20:04.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | still no patch notes for beta? |
| 20:06.02 | sylvanaar | thr: it applies to clickable unit frames in combat, they cant have thier targets changed programatically or thier visibility, nor can they be moved. but you can change their colors and whatnot for debuffs |
| 20:06.40 | thr | sylvanaar: ok thanks, so i can use te SetDestaurated() on the debuff-borders then? :) |
| 20:06.47 | thr | s/te/the |
| 20:07.27 | sylvanaar | thr: you can still move them yourself of course with the mouse - for specific details check out the blizzard SecureUnitFrame code |
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| 20:09.09 | thr | sylvanaar: ok, well i'm only intersted if i can change the color, etc. so thanks for the informative answer :) |
| 20:16.14 | thr | Warlocks have to be the class with the most dot-debuffs, right? |
| 20:16.32 | thr | how many can the apply at the same time? 2 ? Agony+Corruption ? |
| 20:16.44 | End | more than that I think |
| 20:17.03 | thr | hmm what it's called.. Immolate also |
| 20:17.05 | End | immolate I think' |
| 20:17.07 | End | yea |
| 20:17.10 | thr | ok so 3 |
| 20:19.47 | Armooo | there is also Siphon Life |
| 20:20.00 | thr | but that's channeled |
| 20:20.06 | Plorkyeran | Drain Life is channeled |
| 20:20.11 | thr | ah |
| 20:20.12 | thr | Siphon Life |
| 20:20.13 | thr | right |
| 20:20.14 | Plorkyeran | Siphon Life is a bad dot |
| 20:20.18 | End | siphon life is..yea |
| 20:21.18 | End | if you have warlocks bitching about bad dots on a target, but then you see siphon life...well...warlocks probably need to sort out their own stuff first ;p |
| 20:21.21 | Rogall | it heals you too |
| 20:21.22 | Rogall | :x |
| 20:21.24 | Rogall | aint THAT bac |
| 20:21.25 | Rogall | bad |
| 20:21.37 | Plorkyeran | It's better than serpent sting |
| 20:21.38 | cladhaire | *ahem* My laptop has left New Jersey.. and STILL wont be here until monday i hate my life. |
| 20:22.06 | zenzelezz | you wouldn't be so annoyed about it if you didn't keep tracking it |
| 20:22.10 | zenzelezz | "Oh, it's here =)" |
| 20:22.12 | cladhaire | not true |
| 20:24.29 | Maldivia | the: as afar as I know, it's only the movement, anchoring and show/hide that's locked - changin color, alpha, backdrop, saturation etc is still possible in combat |
| 20:24.34 | Maldivia | thr* |
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| 20:36.09 | Maldivia | It's hard to make a name in BGs, and hard to find worth opponents in world pvp |
| 20:36.41 | Shadowed | oooo another hate tell |
| 20:37.00 | Shadowed | Maldivia: It's pretty easy, just insult all the pugs for stupidity, repeat for a year and you'll be the most hated person on the server/bg group :p |
| 20:37.30 | Shadowed | for example! heres the last hate tell I got |
| 20:37.31 | Shadowed | And people like you will continue to be the reason that alliance loses more then it wins. You have NO idea what you are talking about. You aren't even man enough to stand up and fight...make comments and run. Log from AV, put people on ignore, etc. |
| 20:38.11 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 20:39.20 | Maldivia | i usually just give witty remarks in the BG channel |
| 20:39.36 | Maldivia | when people scream at people, trying to tell everyone what to do |
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| 20:39.57 | Maldivia | for some reason, having a complete stranger yell at everyone, have the complete opposite effect on me |
| 20:40.13 | Shadowed | I love it, it makes the grind a lot more amusing |
| 20:41.01 | Maldivia | when they start yelling i BG, I start HK farming, instead of trying to win :) |
| 20:41.29 | Shadowed | I gave up trying to win a long time ago in AV :p |
| 20:41.44 | Maldivia | well, 9 out of 10 AVs I'm in, we win :) |
| 20:41.53 | Shadowed | are you horde? :p |
| 20:41.57 | Maldivia | Alliance |
| 20:42.06 | Shadowed | wow, what server? |
| 20:42.13 | Maldivia | but I've been reputation farming lately, so trying to ninja loot all corpses |
| 20:42.16 | Maldivia | Dragonmaw EU |
| 20:42.40 | Shadowed | oh thats why |
| 20:42.49 | Shadowed | Nightfall has terrible AV's! |
| 20:42.51 | Maldivia | if I'm doing defense, I'm getting around 500 alliance rep pr run |
| 20:43.32 | Shadowed | nice |
| 20:44.07 | Maldivia | help lowers my runecloth costs for faction :) |
| 20:45.16 | Maldivia | 500 alliance rep = 30 runecloth stacks :) |
| 20:45.59 | thr | Alliance on Stormscale EU |
| 20:46.07 | thr | winns alot of AVs also ;P |
| 20:47.07 | thr | Maldivia: Btw in TBC is it allowed to have the TargetFrame as parent to new frames ? |
| 20:47.18 | Maldivia | yes |
| 20:47.22 | Maldivia | why wouldn't it be |
| 20:47.38 | thr | Well, I don't know but just thought I'd ask in just in case ;( |
| 20:48.03 | Maldivia | children frames inherit the same restrictions as their parents |
| 20:48.10 | thr | okey |
| 20:48.38 | thr | but say that I set the TargetFrame as a parent to one of my frames am I allowed to change the texture of it in mid combat?(my frame, not the target frame) |
| 20:48.46 | Maldivia | yes |
| 20:48.50 | cladhaire | you can always change textures |
| 20:48.56 | cladhaire | no restrictions ever |
| 20:48.56 | Maldivia | you're also allowed to change textures on the target frame |
| 20:49.14 | thr | thanks :) |
| 20:49.27 | Maldivia | The restricted functions in combat are: Show(), Hide(), SetPoint(), SetParent() |
| 20:49.33 | thr | but I wont be able to hide it ? ;/ |
| 20:49.35 | Maldivia | and similar |
| 20:49.37 | cladhaire | and SetAttribute() |
| 20:50.00 | Maldivia | ClearAllPoints(), SetAllPoints() aswell |
| 20:50.07 | Maldivia | probably more that I can't think of right now |
| 20:50.12 | thr | Hmm, ok ... that poses some probelm if i'm not allowed to hide my frame |
| 20:50.27 | cladhaire | well those are the basis of the restrictions. |
| 20:50.29 | cladhaire | what are you trying to do? |
| 20:50.36 | cladhaire | and we'll tell you if its possible |
| 20:50.48 | thr | I'm just showing a small frame next to the target frame which shows the current dots you have on the target that are ticking. |
| 20:51.06 | thr | it parses the combat log for "blabla suffers X damage from your dotspellname" |
| 20:51.20 | thr | and displays that spells texture in a small window next to the target frame |
| 20:51.22 | cladhaire | well if they're not secure frames |
| 20:51.23 | Maldivia | a child frame, that's not set as secure, I think you can show/hide it at all time... |
| 20:51.25 | cladhaire | i.e. yo ucan't click on them |
| 20:51.28 | cladhaire | you can hide and show whwnever you want |
| 20:51.42 | thr | ok, but what makes it secure then? |
| 20:51.44 | thr | if it's clicke-able? |
| 20:51.45 | cladhaire | you do |
| 20:51.47 | cladhaire | yes |
| 20:51.50 | cladhaire | well |
| 20:51.55 | cladhaire | if it needs to do secure actions |
| 20:51.55 | Maldivia | when you inhit from Secure[...]Template |
| 20:52.01 | cladhaire | i.e. targeting, casting spells, doing an actino |
| 20:52.15 | thr | ah ok, nah it only needs to change it textures and hide/show itself |
| 20:52.21 | cladhaire | then you're all set |
| 20:52.24 | thr | thanks :) |
| 20:52.39 | thr | btw, where on the wiki can i read more detailed info about the TBC changes? |
| 20:52.44 | cladhaire | you can't really |
| 20:52.49 | thr | hmm okey ;> |
| 20:52.49 | cladhaire | they're still changing all the time |
| 20:52.51 | Maldivia | read the concise thread on the UI forums |
| 20:52.53 | cladhaire | read the 2.0 thread on the forums. |
| 20:52.58 | Maldivia | that's the best source currently |
| 20:52.58 | thr | ok, thanks :) |
| 20:53.04 | thr | <3 this channel |
| 20:53.17 | Maldivia | also wdn.wowinterface.com - and check the FrameXML\Secure* files |
| 20:53.27 | thr | lol my 60 mage just got killed by a lvl11 bird in westfall (afk) ;( |
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| 21:11.00 | Mery | what is an easy to use free 3d rendering program? (I basically just want to make a really simple arrow) |
| 21:12.08 | cryogen | milkshape 3d? |
| 21:14.09 | zenzelezz | Milkshape is a modeler, not a renderer... but it does sound like he's looking to create an arrow, so it might work |
| 21:14.32 | Kaso | Mery: you can get a Free trial of 3D Studio Max, on there site |
| 21:15.02 | Mery | hmm |
| 21:15.07 | Kaso | thier even |
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| 21:20.45 | SP|Sorren | any hunters here in beta? |
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| 21:24.42 | cladhaire | i am |
| 21:24.47 | cladhaire | not level 60, but 52 =) |
| 21:27.20 | SP|Sorren | ...i forgot what i was going to ask |
| 21:27.23 | SP|Sorren | just a sec. |
| 21:27.25 | SP|Sorren | oh! |
| 21:27.31 | SP|Sorren | does aimed shot have a natural cast bar now? |
| 21:27.35 | cladhaire | not sure |
| 21:27.37 | cladhaire | dont have it. |
| 21:27.38 | SP|Sorren | and did they really normalize pet speeds? |
| 21:27.39 | SP|Sorren | ah :< |
| 21:28.31 | cladhaire | not sure.. sorry =( |
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| 21:29.54 | SP|Sorren | oh well, thanks anyway :) |
| 21:30.09 | cladhaire | hehe sorry |
| 21:36.43 | Cairenn | ~lart Qshadowp[NS] |
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| 21:37.29 | Guillotine | hiya :) |
| 21:37.35 | Cairenn | hey Guillotine |
| 21:38.12 | Guillotine | is there a TBC version of Iriel's Devtools yet? or does anyone know of a substitute? I'm having a problem with item links |
| 21:38.51 | Cairenn | there is, but I don't know that he has released it for public consumption yet |
| 21:38.57 | Cairenn | I'll ask him about it when he's around |
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| 21:52.01 | Maldivia | Guillotine: the current version should work, if you update the interface version to 20000 |
| 21:52.19 | Guillotine | Maldivia: really? thanks :) |
| 21:52.38 | Maldivia | Guillotine: and item links have 4 extra fields now (I think it's 4) |
| 21:52.55 | Guillotine | that would be why I'm having trouble ;) /dump is how I usually look at item links |
| 21:53.16 | Maldivia | I think they are for sockets and temp buff, not 100% sure though |
| 21:59.46 | Guillotine | hmm. whats that last one. it seems like a long list of random numbers. 1512673407 for Ursol's Claw |
| 21:59.53 | Guillotine | and theres no sockets on that o.O |
| 22:00.36 | Maldivia | probably the identifier, like on the old links |
| 22:01.23 | Maldivia | I don't know if anyone ever figured out what it contains, but I think it's for internal use, don't really know why it's in the links |
| 22:02.32 | Maldivia | perhaps a serial/tracking number so GMs can easier track items? |
| 22:02.46 | Guillotine | could be |
| 22:02.54 | Guillotine | links work if I just put 0 there though |
| 22:02.56 | Shadowed | get another claw and do a dump? |
| 22:03.23 | Maldivia | yeah, the "serial number" is not important when generating tooltips / linking it |
| 22:03.35 | Maldivia | they usually are attached to a specific item |
| 22:04.16 | Guillotine | woohoo! getlink updated for TBC :D |
| 22:04.17 | Maldivia | I think only quest items and green+ items have it |
| 22:04.30 | Maldivia | and getlink is? |
| 22:04.59 | Guillotine | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4360 |
| 22:05.19 | Guillotine | best item link addon imo. uses NO saved variables for the items |
| 22:05.25 | Shadowed | nice |
| 22:06.04 | Maldivia | ahh, just searches the item cache (with GetItemInfo) ? |
| 22:07.04 | Maldivia | Guillotine: remembered to up the max search number? |
| 22:07.14 | Guillotine | yup |
| 22:07.22 | Maldivia | and why even bother generating the links, since they are returned directly from GetItemInfo now |
| 22:07.45 | Guillotine | they are? |
| 22:07.53 | Maldivia | second return from GetItemInfo is not the full item link, with color, name etc |
| 22:08.17 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 22:08.43 | Guillotine | why you're right |
| 22:09.09 | Maldivia | is now* |
| 22:09.14 | Maldivia | :) |
| 22:09.23 | Maldivia | why do I always mix up not and now :) |
| 22:09.48 | Maldivia | what you upped the max number to ? |
| 22:09.52 | Kirkburn | Because you have hilariously fat fingers? |
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| 22:10.18 | Cpt|Kirk | What does it mean if I login and see a new starup screen when my character is at 19? |
| 22:10.43 | zenzelezz | eh? |
| 22:11.01 | Guillotine | Maldivia: ya, the max is upped as well. Up to 5000 from 2500 |
| 22:11.13 | Maldivia | Guillotine: 50000 I'm guessing... |
| 22:11.14 | Guillotine | will take longer to scan, but I'm not sure how far we go now |
| 22:11.26 | Cpt|Kirk | I login and it is a new character screen? |
| 22:11.30 | Guillotine | yes, thats what I meant ;) |
| 22:11.46 | Kirkburn | May be set to the wrong server? |
| 22:12.00 | Cpt|Kirk | how do i find out what server it should be set on? |
| 22:12.22 | zenzelezz | "Change Realm" button, look for the server that has a number after the name |
| 22:12.31 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz beat me :P |
| 22:12.49 | Kirkburn | Button at top-right of char screen |
| 22:13.46 | Maldivia | Guillotine: well, I've seen item ids up to around 31000 so far |
| 22:14.08 | Guillotine | ya. I may have to up it even further, but I figure 50000 is safe for now |
| 22:14.25 | Guillotine | and thanks for the info about GetItemInfo returning item links. only gets rid of about 1 line of code, but makes it more accurate :) |
| 22:14.35 | Maldivia | you should be good for atleast 6 months with 50000 :) |
| 22:15.03 | Cpt|Kirk | the server i used to be on is not on the list? ALONSUS. |
| 22:15.04 | Maldivia | if not more :) |
| 22:15.16 | cladhaire | oooh i get aimed shot in 3 levels! |
| 22:15.29 | Cpt|Kirk | What does this mean? |
| 22:15.52 | Mery | maybe your server is offline? (maintanance of any sort) |
| 22:16.23 | Cpt|Kirk | how to find that out? |
| 22:16.41 | Industrial | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5605 |
| 22:16.44 | Industrial | yay ppl are liking it |
| 22:16.46 | Industrial | im surprised |
| 22:16.47 | Industrial | :D |
| 22:17.19 | Kirkburn | Cpt|Kirk, EU realm, no? |
| 22:17.26 | cladhaire | haha you munchkin trolled |
| 22:17.37 | SP|Sorren | since when could holy fire crit for 1902? |
| 22:17.39 | Cpt|Kirk | yeah |
| 22:17.41 | Industrial | cladhaire: :-) |
| 22:17.41 | Cpt|Kirk | it is down |
| 22:18.11 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 22:18.21 | Kirkburn | I don't see it on my in-game realsm list |
| 22:19.31 | Maldivia | Cpt|Kirk: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=81088637&sid=1 |
| 22:20.04 | Maldivia | posted 30min ago, about a few servers (amoung those alonsus) being unavailable |
| 22:30.55 | Cairenn | Hexarobi: ping? |
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| 22:34.22 | thr | Hmm ok in TBC will i be able to hide the default debuff slots as I want? |
| 22:34.30 | thr | "* The parent of a protected frame is implicitly protected also, as are any frames which it is anchored to. " |
| 22:34.39 | thr | But it doesn't say anything about children of the protected frame |
| 22:34.49 | Mery | children are not protected |
| 22:34.59 | thr | okey, good. |
| 22:35.02 | Mery | (except they are secure) |
| 22:35.10 | Mery | or have a secure anchored to them |
| 22:35.18 | thr | kk |
| 22:35.28 | thr | basicly what i wanna do is a debuff filter |
| 22:35.38 | thr | that only shows the debuffs that are interesting for the particular class |
| 22:36.01 | thr | say as a mage i dont wanna see rend, sw:p, etc. |
| 22:36.13 | thr | but i want to see the curse of elements/shadowm, ignite, scorch debuffs, etc. |
| 22:36.18 | thr | would this be possible in TBC? |
| 22:37.03 | Mery | as long as there is no casting / targetting involved |
| 22:37.09 | Mery | you can pretty much do anything |
| 22:40.45 | SP|Sorren | for some reason im perpetually flagged for pvp |
| 22:40.52 | SP|Sorren | no matter how long i idle in town |
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| 22:41.37 | zenzelezz | /pvp ? |
| 22:47.56 | cladhaire | lol |
| 22:56.07 | thr | can i overload |
| 22:56.11 | thr | blizzards standard funcions? |
| 22:56.14 | thr | *functions. |
| 22:56.16 | SP|Sorren | eh, since when do you have to turn it off? |
| 22:56.25 | cladhaire | SP|Sorren: Since like 1.3 |
| 22:56.35 | cladhaire | thr: overload isn't the right term, but yes.. you can redefine them |
| 22:56.36 | SP|Sorren | its been a long time. |
| 22:56.39 | SP|Sorren | haha |
| 22:56.52 | SP|Sorren | i thought it just faded after a while :/ |
| 22:57.04 | cladhaire | nah, hasn't been that way since forever |
| 22:57.12 | thr | cladhaire: hooking then |
| 22:57.12 | cladhaire | (PVP wasn't introduced until 1.4 or so, imo) |
| 22:57.21 | thr | cladhaire: but will i be able to do so in TBC also? |
| 22:57.29 | cladhaire | thr: Yes, you can hook the majority of functions, in some manner |
| 22:57.33 | cladhaire | depends on the function |
| 22:57.38 | cladhaire | the answer is yes.. with caveats |
| 22:57.43 | thr | i wanna hook the TargetDebuffButton_Update |
| 22:57.47 | thr | -function. |
| 22:58.03 | cladhaire | to do what? |
| 22:58.12 | thr | to filter what debuffs are shown |
| 22:58.25 | thr | I don't wanna see rend, hunters mark, etc. if i'm playing a mage. |
| 22:58.27 | thr | for example |
| 22:58.27 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:58.29 | cladhaire | you can't. |
| 22:58.31 | cladhaire | not in TBC |
| 22:58.34 | thr | =/ |
| 22:58.36 | cladhaire | unless... |
| 22:58.38 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 22:58.41 | cladhaire | yes you shoudl be able to |
| 22:58.45 | cladhaire | i was smoking crack. |
| 22:58.47 | thr | ;p |
| 22:58.50 | cladhaire | BUT |
| 22:58.53 | thr | you were? |
| 22:58.54 | cladhaire | you'll have to do it in a post-hook |
| 22:58.57 | cladhaire | after the original has run |
| 22:59.06 | thr | hmm ok, how does that look? |
| 22:59.15 | cladhaire | in TBC or now.. cause you can't do it the same in both |
| 23:00.09 | thr | i have no idea on how to do a post-hook ;< |
| 23:00.26 | cladhaire | well in TBC its simple. |
| 23:00.32 | cladhaire | currently, you have to do it manually |
| 23:00.57 | thr | ok, so... |
| 23:01.09 | thr | how is it done? i can't find anything abot post-hooks on the wiki |
| 23:01.09 | cladhaire | which are you coding for.. that's what i asked. |
| 23:01.33 | thr | well, I'm coding for the current one - but I wanna make sure I can do it in TBC also since I don't wanna develop an addon that is used for 1½-2months |
| 23:01.44 | cladhaire | well you can't have both without juggling code |
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| 23:01.53 | cladhaire | or writing your own hooksecurefunc |
| 23:02.05 | cladhaire | do you want to use a library or do it manually? |
| 23:02.08 | thr | manually |
| 23:02.13 | cladhaire | if you never unhook then manual is easy |
| 23:02.21 | thr | nope never unhook. |
| 23:02.24 | cladhaire | local oldFunction = SomeGlobalFunction_ThatYouWantToHook |
| 23:03.15 | cladhaire | function SomeGlobalFunction_ThatYouWantToHook(have, the, same, params, here) -- do your stuff here return the, same, returns, here end |
| 23:03.23 | cladhaire | doing it that way, you can write your own function to do what you want |
| 23:03.33 | cladhaire | or you can call the old functin and pass it the params if you need to. |
| 23:03.47 | cladhaire | you literally just store the function, then make a new one, calling the old one if you want to. |
| 23:03.49 | thr | ok, that I'm aware off but you said post-hook ? |
| 23:03.57 | thr | Isn't that a pre-hook? ;< |
| 23:04.08 | cladhaire | in TBC you can only do it in a hook that operates afterwards, in this case securehookfunc |
| 23:04.19 | thr | ah okej |
| 23:04.35 | thr | but I will be able to do it in TBC none the less, good. |
| 23:04.35 | cladhaire | that's not a pre-hook, thats an overwrite hook if anything else =) |
| 23:04.45 | cladhaire | in this SPECIFIC case, you shoudl be able to |
| 23:04.53 | thr | ah well ok, but it could be a pre-hook by running the old function inside itself. |
| 23:05.03 | cladhaire | or a post |
| 23:05.07 | thr | ;< ye. |
| 23:05.08 | cladhaire | depends on when you call the original |
| 23:05.10 | thr | ah well , gotcha. |
| 23:05.17 | thr | how does it look in TBC then? |
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| 23:05.30 | cladhaire | read hooksecurefunc() in the changes thread |
| 23:05.40 | thr | okey thn |
| 23:05.54 | SP|Sorren | is there a way to tell if a table is empty? |
| 23:06.03 | cladhaire | if not next(tbl) then |
| 23:06.10 | thr | that was easy :) |
| 23:06.28 | SP|Sorren | tks |
| 23:06.40 | thr | hooksecurefunc("securefunc",postHookFunc) |
| 23:06.43 | thr | vry easy ;> |
| 23:06.49 | cladhaire | yep |
| 23:06.57 | cladhaire | but you have to be careful not to taint anythign.. if its secure |
| 23:07.22 | thr | well what I wanna do it filter what debufs are shown and what are not |
| 23:07.25 | Maldivia | can always implement hooksecurefunc for your self, or check if it already exists first |
| 23:07.33 | cladhaire | Maldivia: *nod* |
| 23:07.38 | cladhaire | thats what i suggested/said |
| 23:07.40 | thr | if I'm playing a mage I wanna see all my own debuffs + sunder armors + the warlock curses maybe. |
| 23:07.47 | Maldivia | clad: ups, sorry - missed that :) |
| 23:08.06 | thr | I don't care about the warlocks dots, or the rends on the target, etc. |
| 23:08.17 | thr | and since they are upping the debuff limit to 40 |
| 23:08.26 | thr | finding that scorch debuff among 40 other slots |
| 23:08.31 | thr | will be less then ideal. |
| 23:08.51 | cladhaire | aye |
| 23:09.10 | cladhaire | that's like four lines of code to just filter to the ones you can cast |
| 23:09.12 | cladhaire | heh |
| 23:09.18 | cladhaire | to add the others in gets more difficult. |
| 23:09.42 | Maldivia | hmm, a hooksecurefunc could look something like this for WoW 1.x: http://wowi.pastey.net/2086 |
| 23:09.48 | Maldivia | unless I've made a mistake somewhere |
| 23:10.29 | thr | cladhaire: ye well the logic itself is no problem, just wanted to make sure i can do it in TBC also ;<z |
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| 23:11.15 | cladhaire | aye |
| 23:12.21 | Maldivia | hmm, should probably change it to if not hooksecurefunc then ... instead, since hooksecurefunc = hooksecurefunc will probably taint it |
| 23:12.48 | cladhaire | that'd probably be bad. |
| 23:13.01 | Maldivia | yeah, just figured :) |
| 23:13.37 | thr | hgoho |
| 23:13.39 | thr | hey it works ;d |
| 23:20.48 | Kaso | ooh dragons! |
| 23:22.25 | thr | hmm |
| 23:22.32 | thr | aye, there be dragons here! |
| 23:22.52 | thr | How do i find out if the player has put point sin a specific talent? |
| 23:22.53 | Maldivia | ... and dungeons? |
| 23:23.03 | Kaso | Dragons of the green varitiy |
| 23:23.04 | thr | Maldivia: No, just dragons! |
| 23:23.28 | Maldivia | thr: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Talent_Functions |
| 23:23.56 | thr | Maldivia: ye, but none of those functiosn check if i currently HAVE the talent ? ,< |
| 23:24.16 | thr | ah |
| 23:24.25 | thr | "currentRank" in the GetTalentInfo() |
| 23:24.27 | thr | thanks |
| 23:24.29 | Maldivia | :) |
| 23:29.23 | thr | cladhaire: You are sure I will be able to change what debuffs are displayed in TBC the way we talked about with hooks? |
| 23:29.38 | thr | Because I realy don't want to go thru the pain of writing up this addon with lists f what debuffs for what classes, etc. |
| 23:29.56 | thr | If it will be useless in two months |
| 23:30.11 | thr | or three, whenever TBC comes out |
| 23:30.11 | cladhaire | i can't see why you wouldn't be able to |
| 23:31.44 | thr | cladhaire: btw you said it would be easy to filter out the ones your own class can cast |
| 23:31.47 | thr | how would that be done? |
| 23:32.13 | Shadowed | search your spell book i'd imagine |
| 23:32.20 | cladhaire | *shake* |
| 23:32.30 | cladhaire | UnitBuff("unit", index[, showCastable]) |
| 23:32.38 | thr | oh. |
| 23:32.49 | thr | but i'm after debuffs, not buffs. |
| 23:32.51 | Shadowed | isn't he doing debuffs not buffs |
| 23:33.43 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 23:33.45 | cladhaire | good point. |
| 23:33.48 | thr | ok i guess I could scan the spellbook when you login and save that as a table. |
| 23:33.56 | cladhaire | and every time the spellbook updates |
| 23:33.59 | thr | yes |
| 23:34.13 | Maldivia | well, the problem is that the spell book and the debuffs doesn't all have the same names |
| 23:34.19 | thr | no but the same texture |
| 23:34.29 | thr | which should be good enough |
| 23:35.01 | thr | or? ;> |
| 23:36.38 | Maldivia | dunno |
| 23:37.05 | thr | should be enough i think |
| 23:37.43 | thr | ok last problem |
| 23:37.51 | thr | take the spell Vampiric Embrace |
| 23:38.01 | thr | is it possible to detect if I have cast it on the mob? |
| 23:38.13 | Maldivia | nope |
| 23:38.16 | thr | that sucks. |
| 23:38.20 | thr | i thought it wouldn't be |
| 23:38.26 | Maldivia | except check the combat log |
| 23:38.45 | thr | but doesn't it show up like "RandomMob is afflicted by Vampiric Embrace" |
| 23:38.48 | thr | even if it's not me? |
| 23:38.49 | Shadowed | it does |
| 23:39.04 | thr | which makes it 1. pointless, 2. impossible to check for it |
| 23:39.04 | Maldivia | but no way of knowing if it's still on, if multiple priests have cast it on, and the person/mob removes one of them |
| 23:39.39 | nymbia | you can scan debuffs |
| 23:39.41 | nymbia | but |
| 23:39.57 | thr | nymbia: ye, that I know but I can't check if it's MY Vamp. Embrace can i? |
| 23:40.04 | nymbia | nope. |
| 23:40.24 | Shadowed | as Maldivia said, you could scan combat log for any heals you do from VE |
| 23:40.32 | thr | oh, true. |
| 23:41.08 | thr | smart. |
| 23:41.13 | Maldivia | you can guesstimate it, by checking combat spam and known debuff timers |
| 23:41.35 | thr | ye, same as I do with shadow word pain now |
| 23:41.37 | Shadowed | I guess we can't hook stuff like UseAction in TBC even from securehook? |
| 23:41.49 | Maldivia | Shadowed: you can post-hook it with secure hooks |
| 23:41.53 | nymbia | yeah you can |
| 23:42.11 | Shadowed | Could also do it through that I suppose for checking if it's yours |
| 23:42.33 | nymbia | use securehook() and it calls it after hooked function finishes with the same args |
| 23:42.54 | Shadowed | wasn't sure if they put restrictions on what you couldn't hook |
| 23:43.13 | Maldivia | you can even hook movement commands now, with hooksecurefunc |
| 23:46.09 | Maldivia | since all hooks are post-hooks, and you can't alter the actual call or the return values, there aren't really any point in setting restrictions |
| 23:46.30 | Shadowed | true |
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