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| 00:18.09 | Qshadowp[NS] | computer says no. |
| 00:18.11 | Qshadowp[NS] | :> |
| 00:18.28 | Qshadowp[NS] | anyone know of a addon for profileing keybindings? |
| 00:21.00 | Cairenn | can check out this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5440-WoW_Backup_Manager.html |
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| 00:22.25 | Mery | lol cogwheel =P you'll probably live longer when you just ignore those threads |
| 00:22.51 | cogwheel | I need to vent... my mother and my wife are living in the same house atm... |
| 00:22.56 | cogwheel | XD |
| 00:23.17 | cogwheel | I don't think it's *my* life I should be worrying about right now... |
| 00:23.21 | Cairenn | cogwheel: heh, deep breath, count to 10 ... in as many languages as you know ... |
| 00:23.29 | Shadowed | er oops |
| 00:23.41 | Shadowed | now to figure out how to unignore cogwheel |
| 00:24.21 | SP|Sorren | too little stress makes life boring though |
| 00:24.23 | Thunder_Child | cog...your wife and mother live together, and you work at a winery....the answer should be obvious |
| 00:24.26 | cogwheel | 1 10 11 100 101 110 111 1000 1001 1010 |
| 00:24.58 | SP|Sorren | binary is frightening. |
| 00:25.02 | Mery | that made me laugh |
| 00:25.34 | cogwheel | There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who can understand binary, and those who can't. |
| 00:26.19 | Shadowed | aha there we go |
| 00:27.32 | Guillotine | WOW. go to http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/index.html, scroll down to warlock where it says "debuffer" and hilight it. It says "debuffer and cool guy/girl" |
| 00:27.48 | Guillotine | more proof of blizz being partial to warlocks! |
| 00:27.56 | SP|Sorren | *cough*it's been there since the site was established*cough* |
| 00:28.27 | SP|Sorren | i think GFrazier or someone played a warlock, and he also happened to be doing the website then? :O |
| 00:28.34 | SP|Sorren | what happened to him |
| 00:30.13 | Mery | isn't he Nebu now? (or am I horribly messing something up in my head?) |
| 00:30.26 | SP|Sorren | is he? |
| 00:30.35 | clad|away | someone should hide the ui forums from me. |
| 00:30.39 | clad|away | i keep getting more and more snippy |
| 00:30.59 | clad|away | heh |
| 00:34.33 | SP|Sorren | boo, i want to be in beta. I wish to see if there's any way possible to save ICU :< |
| 00:38.45 | Mery | google reveals: GFraizer is Nebu on the wow website |
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| 00:41.07 | Cairenn | SP|Sorren: you the author of ICU? |
| 00:42.06 | SP|Sorren | i currently take care of it |
| 00:42.18 | SP|Sorren | well, the last i updated it was like 6 months ago :P |
| 00:42.22 | Cairenn | you EU or US? |
| 00:42.23 | SP|Sorren | but its continued to work since then |
| 00:42.24 | SP|Sorren | US |
| 00:42.47 | SP|Sorren | maybe someone else has picked it up since i fell out of the game |
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| 00:44.55 | Cairenn | SP|Sorren: PM |
| 00:46.21 | SP|Sorren | ah |
| 00:46.23 | SP|Sorren | im not registered |
| 00:46.27 | SP|Sorren | one sec haha |
| 00:46.35 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.45 | SP|Sorren | i was wondering why you said that after i thought i'd answered :) |
| 00:56.10 | dreft | you might be able to keep icu working in bgs at least |
| 00:56.21 | dreft | with the assumption that everyone who isnt in your raid is an enemy |
| 00:56.36 | dreft | and without the targetting aspect of course |
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| 00:57.26 | dreft | although i guess that isnt exactly 'working' |
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| 01:03.02 | SP|Sorren | its a huge nerf to tracking if it no longer works at all :( |
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| 01:03.17 | SP|Sorren | er, targets at all |
| 01:03.53 | SP|Sorren | maybe I can just make it a clickable button where it sticks the button for 5 seconds or so so you can type /tar <name> >.> |
| 01:04.05 | ckknight | hey all |
| 01:04.06 | SP|Sorren | but that would be a terrible blow to the mod :/ |
| 01:04.08 | SP|Sorren | hiya |
| 01:05.36 | Kaso | can someone on beta tell me the color of shamans (rgb or hex) |
| 01:07.12 | cladhaire | its seagreen =) |
| 01:07.16 | MentalPower | what file is that in? |
| 01:07.16 | cladhaire | gimme a moment. |
| 01:07.24 | Kaso | RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 01:08.31 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.48 | Kaso | thankie |
| 01:10.29 | cladhaire | (what does ICU do? link?) |
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| 01:10.53 | dreft | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2820-icu-updated.html |
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| 01:11.32 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5549-ICU.html |
| 01:12.49 | SP|Sorren | it makes pretty tracking buttons. works for druids too in catform :O |
| 01:15.35 | Guillotine | well sorren, you can still save the part where it has a list of people though they won't be clickable. You can use the idea we came up with in here a while ago (and I think somebody implemented it) where you shrink the minimap to 1X1 and move it under the cursor. then you have a list of everyone |
| 01:17.56 | dreft | wont be able to target the names to get information about them though, will you? |
| 01:18.07 | dreft | unless you can use an alternate source for some of them, like your bg raid |
| 01:18.08 | SP|Sorren | well, the main point of the mod is the ability to use tracking to tell friend from foe |
| 01:18.12 | cladhaire | you can always provide as much information as possible. |
| 01:18.15 | cladhaire | and you can still do that |
| 01:18.17 | cladhaire | quite nicely |
| 01:18.27 | cladhaire | you can even filter the dropdown |
| 01:18.30 | cladhaire | you just cannot click on them to target or cast |
| 01:18.40 | Kirkburn | Hmm, apparently Vista has just been finalised |
| 01:18.41 | Guillotine | exactly |
| 01:18.42 | SP|Sorren | currently it works by targetting each of them and grabbing their info from the tooltip |
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| 01:19.16 | Guillotine | that won't work in most places now, but you can still color people on whether their in your raid |
| 01:19.43 | Mery | or use the scoreboard (in BG's) to get some info |
| 01:20.23 | Tem | no reason to use the scoreboard unless you're coloring oposite faction people |
| 01:20.30 | SP|Sorren | will it work out of combat? or are there still targetting restrictions out of combat? |
| 01:20.32 | Tem | which is wasted effort, imo |
| 01:20.43 | Tem | addons can NEVER target |
| 01:20.47 | SP|Sorren | never evar? |
| 01:20.52 | SP|Sorren | okay |
| 01:21.08 | Qshadowp[NS] | oops, the addon forgot |
| 01:21.11 | Qshadowp[NS] | oh noes :< |
| 01:21.19 | SP|Sorren | the point is to color the opposition from the friendlies though |
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| 01:21.23 | SP|Sorren | and to distinguish npcs from pcs |
| 01:21.59 | Qshadowp[NS] | is there any mod to change the tooltip when you mouse over players so you can see there health and mana bars? |
| 01:22.03 | Qshadowp[NS] | and guild :P |
| 01:22.27 | Tem | there's LOTS of addons that do that |
| 01:22.36 | Tem | I recommend TinyTip |
| 01:22.38 | cladhaire | Way to be dramatic Tem. |
| 01:22.41 | cladhaire | Addons can in fact target |
| 01:22.47 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:22.48 | Qshadowp[NS] | ok ty tem :> |
| 01:23.00 | SP|Sorren | just not custom addons? O.o |
| 01:23.01 | Tem | cladhaire, using a SecureButton doesn't count |
| 01:23.10 | cladhaire | yeah it does! |
| 01:23.11 | Tem | (and neither does signed code) |
| 01:23.23 | Tem | alright, lemme rephrase |
| 01:23.43 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:23.50 | Tem | Tainted Code can __//**NEVER**//__ call the targetting functions |
| 01:24.00 | cladhaire | hasty generalizations are bad, mkay? |
| 01:24.03 | Tem | (!!!!oneoneeleven!) |
| 01:24.11 | Tem | 1 |
| 01:25.09 | SP|Sorren | tainted code :( |
| 01:25.11 | SP|Sorren | that sounds so bad |
| 01:25.18 | Tem | taint? |
| 01:25.42 | dreft | your addons are TAINTED, sorren! |
| 01:25.53 | dreft | how do you like that!? |
| 01:25.59 | SP|Sorren | it makes me QQirl. |
| 01:26.16 | SP|Sorren | and hunger for chicken, for some reason. |
| 01:28.09 | Tem | ew |
| 01:28.23 | Mery | g'night all |
| 01:28.51 | SP|Sorren | you don't like chicken? |
| 01:34.41 | Qshadowp[NS] | also...why isn't there a chat logger that logs everything? :P |
| 01:34.50 | Qshadowp[NS] | sucks that it'll forget after a few days |
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| 01:38.09 | Corrodias | i love shamans ;.; |
| 01:40.05 | hugo | you wont after 2yrs .. |
| 01:40.23 | ckknight | lol, 2 years is an eternity and you know it |
| 01:40.31 | ckknight | at least in foresight |
| 01:40.40 | ckknight | in hindsight, it'll feel like it was just yesterday |
| 01:40.59 | hugo | i play shaman 2years |
| 01:41.03 | hugo | and i want something else ;x |
| 01:41.10 | Corrodias | i don't -play- one |
| 01:41.18 | Corrodias | i just love having them around, just for the mana totems. |
| 01:41.42 | hugo | when you will play with paladin around you will like him more |
| 01:41.56 | hugo | with mana buff ;] |
| 01:42.00 | Corrodias | not so sure about that |
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| 01:42.18 | hugo | you hit monster you gain mana ;o |
| 01:42.29 | hugo | im sure bout that |
| 01:42.54 | Corrodias | i.. don't melee. |
| 01:43.19 | Corrodias | i also find them infuriatingly overpowered in AV, and i can't imagine they're much worse in AB |
| 01:43.25 | hugo | then just the mana per tick buff > totems |
| 01:43.43 | hugo | ele shaman is so cool in pvp |
| 01:43.51 | hugo | in raid hes poor.. at all |
| 01:44.34 | Corrodias | well, you know, do you want a shaman or a paladin who can hold a flag on his own against 3 people? |
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| 01:45.02 | hugo | i want something that can raid well.. |
| 01:45.04 | hugo | pve |
| 01:45.09 | hugo | shaman is poor |
| 01:45.23 | hugo | yeah the totems for meleers are good but |
| 01:45.25 | hugo | ....... |
| 01:45.36 | hugo | totems suck at all |
| 01:45.49 | SP|Sorren | eh? |
| 01:45.49 | hugo | the range.. at patchwerk i hold str and wf for meleers |
| 01:45.50 | Corrodias | suit yourself |
| 01:45.58 | hugo | then one person with L must switch us to mage group |
| 01:46.00 | hugo | i drop mana tide |
| 01:46.09 | hugo | then the perosn must put us back to meleers.. heh |
| 01:46.12 | hugo | gg blizzard |
| 01:46.30 | hugo | what a mechanism |
| 01:46.36 | hugo | changing groups in battle |
| 01:46.58 | hugo | just wrong |
| 01:47.09 | End | we switch shaman around too sometimes, but usually we don't bother |
| 01:47.32 | hugo | you kill patchwerk ? |
| 01:47.35 | Kaso | ive always wanted to write an addon that would dynamically switch groups around for auras, but doing it quickly without lag from buckets of raid_roster_updates was inpractical |
| 01:47.37 | End | nope |
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| 01:47.44 | hugo | you bother there |
| 01:47.59 | hugo | theres addon like that |
| 01:48.01 | End | but we have had to switch shaman around when we've lost a significant portion of our numbers elsewhere |
| 01:48.08 | hugo | he setup persons to switch and just click |
| 01:48.28 | Corrodias | don't get me wrong; i'm glad our guys will be able to drive the allies nuts with paladins in the future. i just can't touch them. |
| 01:48.36 | hugo | totems are too problematic vs paladins buffs |
| 01:48.41 | hugo | needs some changes.. |
| 01:48.44 | End | totems are definitely problematic |
| 01:49.09 | hugo | i dont like the changes |
| 01:49.28 | hugo | it was atleast some diff beetwen the horde and alliance |
| 01:49.29 | End | totems...are limited...the only thing going for them is the "unusual" stuff like windfury |
| 01:49.30 | hugo | now its all same |
| 01:49.50 | End | mana tide doesn't seem all that great compared to blessing of wisdom to me |
| 01:49.51 | hugo | now imagine 30min battle |
| 01:49.52 | SP|Sorren | how would a pld+ele shaman duo do in arena? |
| 01:49.56 | SP|Sorren | i think it'd be a good team :O |
| 01:49.57 | hugo | 60sec mana totem |
| 01:50.05 | hugo | witch turn on global cooldown |
| 01:50.08 | hugo | +another totems |
| 01:50.23 | hugo | how many time/mana you waste just placing them |
| 01:50.28 | End | yeah, many fights our shaman our almost exclusively dropping totems :P |
| 01:50.40 | hugo | yeah shaman is pvp definetly |
| 01:50.54 | Corrodias | i don't know what shamans can do in pvp. what is it? |
| 01:51.15 | hugo | highest burst dmg antimage ? |
| 01:51.51 | End | shaman are very high burst damage, but they don't have damage longevity |
| 01:51.54 | hugo | elemental shaman play like mage.. he don't melee if it's not 1v1 caster |
| 01:52.17 | Corrodias | heh, don't ask ME. i'm asking you. |
| 01:52.21 | hugo | chainlightning 1,5sec is very effective in bg |
| 01:52.30 | hugo | + interupting spells |
| 01:52.34 | hugo | and chain heal is best heal in game |
| 01:52.46 | hugo | if you talk about mana/heal |
| 01:53.18 | hugo | so elemental shaman with 5/5 trier 2,5 and 3/3 tier 2 spaming chain heal and chain lighting is very impresivei in bg |
| 01:53.45 | hugo | Corrodias i wasnt askin u that was answer |
| 01:53.56 | Corrodias | then why did you phrase it as a question? :( |
| 01:54.06 | hugo | but in raid pve they poor,.... only good is the chain heal witch isnt usable at every encounter.. |
| 01:54.09 | Corrodias | i guess it doesn't matter |
| 01:54.16 | hugo | but if it's boss like Thadius .. shaman can own there about healing |
| 01:54.39 | hugo | but its like 1 boss of 10 |
| 01:55.50 | Corrodias | i hear rogues have problems with lots of bosses |
| 01:56.17 | Thunder_Child | Sweet, Beta for Supreme Commander! |
| 01:57.01 | hugo | problem for rogues is only that they must be pve speced in naxxramas and put away their imba 'hemo' stunlock builds so they're pissed :) |
| 01:57.24 | Corrodias | imba? |
| 01:57.32 | hugo | imbalanced |
| 01:57.43 | hugo | like overpowered.. too strong .. too good |
| 01:58.19 | Corrodias | hemmorhage is... +7 damage on attacks? :/ |
| 01:58.45 | hugo | it's only attack ingame that have not normalized atack power |
| 01:58.55 | hugo | so the ap calculate from weapon speed u see |
| 01:58.59 | Corrodias | i don't understand that part |
| 01:59.14 | Corrodias | it's +7 damage, like having a Sniper Scope, isn't it? |
| 01:59.30 | hugo | huh ? |
| 01:59.35 | hugo | it and attack skill |
| 01:59.39 | hugo | for rogue |
| 01:59.44 | hugo | from skillbook u see.. |
| 01:59.53 | hugo | instant atack adds 1 comb opoint |
| 02:00.04 | hugo | and only one ingame not normalized atack power |
| 02:00.16 | Corrodias | i'm looking at a talent calculator right now, yeah. |
| 02:00.18 | hugo | so if u got 2.9weapon it dont calculate from 2.4 but from 2,9 |
| 02:00.23 | Corrodias | i still don't understand what the heck you're talking about |
| 02:00.40 | Corrodias | this normalization is not familiar to me, and i read everything in the game formulas section of wikipedia |
| 02:00.47 | hugo | so it's pretty dmg, and with the hemo build you stunlock him , when ks it has another +%dmg and cold blood.. dead |
| 02:01.04 | hugo | atack power normalization was some patches ago alrdy |
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| 02:01.28 | hugo | normal attack isnt normalized.. and hemo |
| 02:01.34 | hugo | all other skills are normalized |
| 02:01.40 | hugo | like heoric strike |
| 02:01.42 | hugo | mortal strike |
| 02:01.43 | hugo | hemo |
| 02:01.46 | hugo | er hemo not |
| 02:01.51 | Corrodias | THIS REALLY SHOULD Be added to the wiki, don't you think? |
| 02:01.54 | Corrodias | not wikipedia. wowwiki. |
| 02:01.55 | hugo | sinister strike... well all skills attack xcept hemo ;] |
| 02:02.06 | hugo | it's pretty old information.. |
| 02:02.14 | Corrodias | but it's not there |
| 02:02.22 | hugo | not my fault ;o |
| 02:02.37 | hugo | what does the blacksheeps addon ? |
| 02:02.45 | hugo | find the black sheeps in you raid! |
| 02:02.49 | hugo | ;D |
| 02:04.04 | Corrodias | so could you explain what the normalization means? |
| 02:04.58 | hugo | well i dont think if its correct but the ap bonus formula is something like atack power / 14 * bonus |
| 02:05.15 | hugo | so if u got 140 atack power and 2.8weapon |
| 02:05.28 | hugo | ur normal atack would get 140/14*2.8 atack power bonus |
| 02:05.52 | hugo | but skills are "normalized" something like dagger 1.4speed 1h 2.4speed and 2h dunno 3.4 ? i think |
| 02:06.14 | hugo | so for like mortal strike it would count 140/140*2.4 for one handed weapon .. any speed ( if not dagger0 |
| 02:06.18 | hugo | you got it ? |
| 02:06.32 | hugo | but im not 100% sure about the formula since im not rogue ;] |
| 02:06.44 | cladhaire | basically, the DPS bonus from attack power used to be AP / 14 * speed of weapon |
| 02:07.02 | hugo | and all skills are calculating using the normalized bonus.. except hemorage skill he use weapon atack speed bonus |
| 02:07.03 | cladhaire | since AP adds a straight damage modifier.. |
| 02:07.20 | cladhaire | and daggers that were SLOW.. used to get a larger bonus to the MAX damage of the weapon |
| 02:07.24 | hugo | but for skills its AP / 14 * normalizedspeed |
| 02:07.29 | Corrodias | hmm |
| 02:07.32 | hugo | 1,4dager 2,41h 3,42h |
| 02:07.32 | cladhaire | so they changed it so all daggers now receive the same bonus from AP |
| 02:07.38 | Corrodias | now that you mention it, it sounds a little familiar |
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| 02:07.57 | hugo | but for atack it counts normaly |
| 02:08.02 | hugo | auto atack |
| 02:08.18 | Corrodias | attack power is supposed to add "damage per second", then, right? |
| 02:08.35 | hugo | ap add dmg yeah |
| 02:08.40 | cladhaire | http://www.thotbott.com/?i=53979 |
| 02:08.49 | cladhaire | search for "the attack power" on that page |
| 02:08.52 | cladhaire | good explanation |
| 02:09.11 | hugo | so for hemo sill 2.8 2.9 weapons besty |
| 02:09.26 | hugo | some 2.8blue can be actually same like 2.6 epix with 10less dps |
| 02:09.29 | hugo | with hemo |
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| 02:09.36 | hugo | 10more dps i mean |
| 02:10.12 | hugo | ah the so i was wrong the normalized bonus is 1.7dager 2.41h and 3.32h |
| 02:11.06 | Corrodias | okay, this is getting confusing, 3.32h and all |
| 02:11.07 | hugo | maybe.. atleast on thottbot someone says so |
| 02:11.08 | hugo | ;p |
| 02:11.27 | hugo | don't care im shaman i use just auto atack |
| 02:11.28 | hugo | :) |
| 02:12.10 | hugo | and for that i can calculate it ;p |
| 02:12.29 | Corrodias | so what you're saying is that some rogues exploit this oversight by using slow swords? |
| 02:12.38 | Corrodias | and hitting hemmorhage whenever possible? |
| 02:12.54 | hugo | it aint exploit |
| 02:13.07 | hugo | blizard leaver hemo the only atack non-notmalized |
| 02:13.13 | hugo | leaved* |
| 02:13.27 | hugo | so its good to use slow weaps with it to get more dmg |
| 02:13.36 | Corrodias | okay, they "take advantage of this oversight" |
| 02:14.09 | hugo | well the prolyl did it to get it in line with sinister strike |
| 02:14.12 | cladhaire | Hemo is meant to be spammed for high damage. |
| 02:14.14 | hugo | if you we're using diff build |
| 02:14.22 | cladhaire | since hemo was only viable for helping raid DPS |
| 02:14.31 | cladhaire | now its a real nice PVP build. |
| 02:14.41 | hugo | i aint a rogue at all so cant tell u all |
| 02:14.55 | cladhaire | I am =) |
| 02:14.58 | Corrodias | hm. well, either way, i'm not heading down the subtlety tree with mine. |
| 02:15.13 | hugo | well its best pvp build |
| 02:15.27 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 02:15.35 | hugo | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jhe0oxubZhZxMe0chRo |
| 02:15.42 | hugo | something like this maybe would work good |
| 02:15.57 | hugo | it also good for solo pve |
| 02:16.00 | hugo | but not good in raid.. |
| 02:16.13 | Corrodias | but clad just said that hemmorhage was used for raids |
| 02:16.30 | hugo | was |
| 02:16.37 | Corrodias | it doesn't work now? |
| 02:16.43 | hugo | means it was, it is no longer |
| 02:16.51 | Corrodias | i know what it means. i'm asking why. |
| 02:16.51 | hugo | dps too low.. |
| 02:16.52 | cladhaire | it was |
| 02:16.53 | cladhaire | it still is |
| 02:16.59 | cladhaire | but that was its ONLY use before |
| 02:17.01 | hugo | now backstab and slice and dice |
| 02:17.03 | hugo | > all |
| 02:17.16 | Corrodias | why is backstab & S&D not better for PvP, then? |
| 02:17.17 | cladhaire | What you used to do is have combat daggers on all your rogues, and then one with hemo |
| 02:17.30 | hugo | cant stunlock |
| 02:17.33 | cladhaire | the hemo rogue raised the physical DPS of the entire raid |
| 02:17.51 | cladhaire | BS/Stunlock is fine for pvp |
| 02:17.53 | cladhaire | but only 1v1 pvp |
| 02:18.10 | cladhaire | cause backstab costs 60 energy.. and its physically situational |
| 02:18.18 | hugo | yeah but i stunlock high warlord warrior with hemo with my blue equip alt hemo rogue ;p |
| 02:18.30 | cladhaire | yeah, its definitely easier =) |
| 02:18.37 | cladhaire | just have to change how you play a bit. |
| 02:18.52 | hugo | cs hemo hemo ks hemo hemo blind cs coldblood evis |
| 02:18.55 | cladhaire | hemo is only good for PVP cause you can spam it almost as fast as the global cooldown.. which means LOTS of damage. |
| 02:18.56 | hugo | bye bye high warlord |
| 02:18.56 | hugo | ;o |
| 02:19.03 | cladhaire | its an energy management skill |
| 02:19.05 | Corrodias | now, hemmorhage doesn't stun. what are you using? |
| 02:19.18 | hugo | it cost less energy then ss |
| 02:19.30 | hugo | you get more cp |
| 02:19.40 | hugo | to make stunlock |
| 02:19.42 | Corrodias | so you're using Kidney Strike? |
| 02:19.50 | hugo | no.. kidney shot |
| 02:19.52 | hugo | ;p |
| 02:20.07 | Corrodias | this conversation is like solving a puzzle |
| 02:20.20 | Corrodias | trying to get you to answer the question i am trying to ask ;) |
| 02:20.35 | hugo | and if all goes wrong you got gouge to go restealth or blind or vanish.. or at all preparation to reset ALL cooldowns |
| 02:20.39 | hugo | very universal build |
| 02:20.44 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 02:20.52 | hugo | so you can use all skills 2x |
| 02:21.00 | Corrodias | and blizzard actually made hemmorhage work that way intentionally? |
| 02:21.01 | hugo | .. and evasion and spirt i didnt counted |
| 02:21.23 | cladhaire | whats the question? |
| 02:21.23 | hugo | rogue .. you just must learn to relax quickly.. if you do fail you die ;o |
| 02:21.25 | cladhaire | how about we start there |
| 02:21.32 | hugo | other classes can like do something wrong and still win |
| 02:21.35 | hugo | lile healers |
| 02:21.40 | hugo | rouge must be perfect ;) |
| 02:21.44 | Corrodias | okay, forget that question. how about this one? why is it that they can't use this in a raid environment? |
| 02:21.59 | Corrodias | or why did you say that they have to respec? |
| 02:22.02 | hugo | its a stunlock build |
| 02:22.13 | hugo | you don't stun boss.. first its immune |
| 02:22.17 | hugo | and secon stun dont do dmg |
| 02:22.18 | cladhaire | You have to keep in mind that hugo is referring to a specific build. |
| 02:22.22 | hugo | so it cant be good in raid :) |
| 02:22.26 | cladhaire | Hemo can be used in raids, but not in a hemo/stunlock build. |
| 02:22.31 | hugo | yeah |
| 02:22.34 | hugo | that i mean |
| 02:22.39 | cladhaire | since you lose talent points that would enhance your raid DPS, to gain the stunlock bits you need, and grab hemo |
| 02:22.48 | Corrodias | i see |
| 02:22.56 | hugo | you got combat |
| 02:22.58 | hugo | for dps |
| 02:22.59 | cladhaire | Hemo + mid Assasination and mid Combat is a very solid build. |
| 02:23.21 | hugo | with backstab and slice and dice |
| 02:23.25 | hugo | its impresive dps |
| 02:23.45 | cladhaire | very much so.. much like any build.. your crits help raise your average dps. |
| 02:24.14 | hugo | wait for TBC shamans |
| 02:24.20 | hugo | then rogue will be real dps machine |
| 02:24.24 | hugo | ;d |
| 02:28.05 | hugo | night |
| 02:30.38 | Corrodias | ni |
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| 02:38.58 | Qshadowp[NS] | is there a command to get one macro to run another macro? |
| 02:39.06 | Qshadowp[NS] | (250 char limit sux) |
| 02:40.48 | Corrodias | did something change in the panther boss fight in ZG just recently? |
| 02:41.25 | Corrodias | we seem to be having a ridiculously hard time at it, even though we've succeeded several times before |
| 02:58.32 | AnduinLothar | Anyone know a mod for easily announcing craftable items to the trade channel? I know a bunch of enchanting ones, are there any good ones for other tradeskills? |
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| 03:02.19 | malreth | heya! |
| 03:02.28 | malreth | so tauruse |
| 03:02.31 | malreth | i was right |
| 03:02.34 | malreth | he is a troll |
| 03:03.00 | malreth | and he posts images of his forum bans on his guild forum |
| 03:03.13 | malreth | he does have arthritis, though |
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| 03:11.55 | Corrodias | arlokk keeps spawning within our group and killing healers |
| 03:12.17 | cladhaire | tell your healers to stop sucking imo |
| 03:16.06 | Corrodias | maybe if we could wear plate |
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| 03:20.09 | cladhaire | malreth: i just can't stop fighting with him |
| 03:20.14 | cladhaire | its bad =) |
| 03:24.26 | Cairenn | cladhaire: stop |
| 03:24.39 | cladhaire | ? =( |
| 03:24.52 | cladhaire | *cry* |
| 03:24.55 | Cairenn | *wonders if it will work* |
| 03:25.14 | Cairenn | *doubts it* |
| 03:25.30 | cladhaire | do you really want me to? |
| 03:25.32 | cladhaire | cause i will |
| 03:25.36 | cladhaire | but you need to mean it :P |
| 03:25.46 | Cairenn | I am not going to tell you what to do cladhaire |
| 03:25.59 | cladhaire | do you think i'm being mean or inappropriate? |
| 03:26.13 | Cairenn | I haven't been reading it, I'm busy with some other stuff |
| 03:26.40 | cladhaire | i dont think i have been.. but trolls just get at me. |
| 03:26.54 | malreth | woot! |
| 03:27.05 | malreth | i got my invite to AQ40... huhu dies tonight! |
| 03:27.25 | cladhaire | grats malreth! |
| 03:28.21 | Tem | much h8 for huhu |
| 03:28.49 | Tem | we've gotten her to 1% twice now |
| 03:28.56 | Tem | but we havent' been back in AQ in like a month |
| 03:29.12 | Tem | well, we've gone in to kill the bosses before her since they're on farm |
| 03:31.01 | AnduinLothar | where' prolly hitting huhu on wed. after we clear up to her tonight after bwl |
| 03:31.12 | AnduinLothar | we're* |
| 03:31.35 | AnduinLothar | but first i need my askandi |
| 03:31.46 | cladhaire | mmm.. ass candy |
| 03:31.50 | AnduinLothar | so i can heal better |
| 03:32.28 | AnduinLothar | i heal better with a large sharp stick in my hands |
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| 03:33.48 | Garoun|Loupana | cladhaire did that person make a post on wowace about some issue they found with ace and their script commands? I'm pretty sure it's another mod, but never hurts to let you know :) |
| 03:33.48 | Tem | I got healed by a pally with an askandi in WSG today |
| 03:33.57 | AnduinLothar | :D tem |
| 03:34.06 | Tem | it didn't even dent my hp |
| 03:34.22 | Tem | then the warlock dots that he didn't cleanse killed me |
| 03:34.32 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 03:34.40 | cladhaire | Garoun|Loupana: Umm.. I think you're asking the wrong guy.. but it was probably something with AceConsole or AceHook |
| 03:34.51 | cladhaire | but I'm trying to stay away from STD's.. |
| 03:34.54 | Cairenn | btw, everyone has their mods up-to-date on the site, right? |
| 03:34.55 | Garoun|Loupana | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=35805346&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 03:35.15 | Garoun|Loupana | around 60, was in my thread about druid form shifting |
| 03:35.25 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 03:35.31 | cladhaire | you'll want to get in touch with one of the Ace guys. |
| 03:35.51 | Garoun|Loupana | ok, I can never keep all the ace folk straight :) |
| 03:36.15 | cladhaire | but i suspect ckknight fixed it already |
| 03:36.19 | [floyd] | STD's? As in "Sexually Transmitted Disease"?!? |
| 03:36.20 | cladhaire | if you want to grab the latest version fromt he SVN |
| 03:36.27 | cladhaire | [floyd]: Yeah |
| 03:36.43 | [floyd] | Uhm, ok, just checking ^^ |
| 03:36.46 | Garoun|Loupana | oh, I don't have a beta invite yet :( otherwise I'd gladly give it a test |
| 03:36.47 | cladhaire | Although it would be nice if code wasn't so buggy that it could be posted on WoWI |
| 03:37.27 | Garoun|Loupana | I need to get someone to check my Quick Look, it should work fine but I don't like posting something before it's teseted |
| 03:38.14 | Garoun|Loupana | god, you'd think I haven't slept in a week with how bad my typing is |
| 03:39.59 | cladhaire | heh |
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| 03:47.27 | Tain | Damnit I can't find my favorite oatmeal cookie recipe. |
| 03:50.45 | Osagasu | what's up with wowwiki? |
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| 03:58.39 | deci | is there a / command to target your pet besides using /tar PetNameHere |
| 04:01.39 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.12 | Guillotine | you there cladhaire? |
| 04:05.40 | clad|away | yeah for the moment |
| 04:05.41 | clad|away | whats up |
| 04:06.12 | Guillotine | bug with clique. I can't drag spells off of the spell book. it attempts to bind them |
| 04:06.15 | Guillotine | (in TBC) |
| 04:06.41 | clad|away | what version |
| 04:06.42 | clad|away | reload |
| 04:06.52 | clad|away | there's some odd error that i need to track down |
| 04:06.58 | clad|away | its not consistent |
| 04:08.33 | Guillotine | no, it isn't. I reloaded and its fixed |
| 04:08.47 | clad|away | =) |
| 04:09.04 | Guillotine | I'll see if I can figure out how to reliably replicate it for you :/ |
| 04:11.14 | clad|away | in short, the buttons are only shown/hidden when the toggle button is pressed |
| 04:11.17 | clad|away | which should be correct |
| 04:11.32 | clad|away | grep for CliqueFrame:Hide() |
| 04:11.38 | clad|away | any stray hides could do it. |
| 04:11.39 | clad|away | =) |
| 04:12.56 | clad|away | heh there arne't any stray ones. |
| 04:13.14 | Guillotine | hmmm. somehow I transferred over with only 10g >< oh well. Supposedly its easy to earn in outlands... |
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| 04:26.03 | Cairenn | welcome back Iriel |
| 04:26.05 | Iriel | Hey malreth |
| 04:26.13 | Iriel | thanks Cairenn 8-) |
| 04:26.38 | malreth | i friended you in the game now we can be bestest buddies forever and ever and things |
| 04:27.20 | Cairenn | malreth: in beta? |
| 04:27.40 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 04:27.58 | malreth | not in beta... |
| 04:28.04 | Cairenn | ah, live |
| 04:28.15 | Guillotine | hmm. I thought they had made pounce not require behing behind the target |
| 04:28.32 | Cairenn | btw guys, make sure your mods are current on the site, hey? |
| 04:29.40 | Garoun|Loupana | my single mod is updated Cair :P |
| 04:29.54 | Cairenn | good :) |
| 04:30.04 | Garoun|Loupana | almost don't think it counts as a mod since it's just a bind script :/ |
| 04:30.25 | Garoun|Loupana | hows the insomnia btw? |
| 04:30.42 | Cairenn | comes and goes |
| 04:31.09 | Cairenn | seem to get 1 decent night's sleep, then 2 or 3 of insomnia then another good night |
| 04:31.13 | Garoun|Loupana | really didn't expect to hear about the switch on |
| 04:31.18 | Garoun|Loupana | Sun morning :P |
| 04:31.35 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 04:31.53 | Garoun|Loupana | I pm'd you about Quick Look and moving it to combat mods |
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| 04:32.02 | Cairenn | oh, yeah |
| 04:32.04 | Cairenn | :) |
| 04:32.30 | Cairenn | yeah, I had just given up on the tossing and turning and come back down when your PM came in, so took care of it |
| 04:32.48 | Garoun|Loupana | good, at least it gave a moment of diversion |
| 04:32.58 | Cairenn | go go freecell |
| 04:33.00 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:33.21 | Iriel | Meh, freecell is easy |
| 04:33.25 | Iriel | Spider Solitaire on hard |
| 04:33.27 | Garoun|Loupana | times like that I tend to roll and alt or fire up an oldy like HL:Blue Shift |
| 04:33.32 | Cairenn | precisely Iriel |
| 04:33.42 | Garoun|Loupana | can never get enough Barney the underated security gaurd |
| 04:34.17 | Cairenn | when I'm trying to get my brain numb enough that I can pass out, I play freecell or spider solitaire or minesweeper |
| 04:34.40 | Garoun|Loupana | I suck at minesweeper, I always blow myself up |
| 04:34.59 | Cairenn | last thing I want to do when I've got insomnia is something that will require me to think about it, and wake myself up even more |
| 04:39.23 | Tain | I'm baking cookies. |
| 04:39.31 | Garoun|Loupana | that sounds really good |
| 04:39.44 | Garoun|Loupana | especially since it's 11:30pm and I haven't had dinner yet |
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| 04:58.34 | Tain | I've become such a food snob. I was making cookies and was about to add the chocolate chips to the cookie dough and tasted one and decided it wasn't good enough chocolate. |
| 04:58.45 | Tain | So I went to the grocery store to buy more. |
| 04:59.38 | Thunder_Child | any chocolate isnt good enough |
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| 05:18.02 | malreth | hooray for slouken! |
| 05:18.51 | Cairenn | yeah, he locked that damn thread! |
| 05:22.54 | malreth | aaaaand... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&sid=1&pageNo=4 |
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| 05:54.06 | Tain | I burnt my pinkee finger. |
| 05:55.34 | Cairenn | *kisses it better* |
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| 05:59.23 | Tain | :) Thanks |
| 06:02.22 | Tain | I'm disappointed that I couldn't find that oatmeal cookie recipe. I really need to find it. It's the best oatmeal cookie recipe I've ever tasted and it was a super low-fat Weight Watcher's recipe. |
| 06:02.45 | Tain | But I just tried another normal one with lots of butter and sugar and whatnot and they actually aren't as tasty. |
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| 06:10.27 | Cairenn | welcome back malreth |
| 06:11.07 | Thunder_Child | and goodbye hyperChipmunk |
| 06:11.23 | malreth | no, not goodbye just yet |
| 06:11.32 | malreth | my siblings haven't hatched yet |
| 06:11.36 | Thunder_Child | well, i'm sure it cant be long now |
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| 06:18.03 | Thunder_Child | hey tain, i have a few otmeal recipes if you are interested |
| 06:18.09 | Thunder_Child | oatmeal* |
| 06:18.28 | malreth | oatmeal? |
| 06:18.36 | malreth | i was just thinking about oatmeal today |
| 06:19.02 | Thunder_Child | well did you have any? |
| 06:19.20 | malreth | no... was at the store |
| 06:19.27 | Thunder_Child | for shame |
| 06:19.37 | malreth | and me and my SO were thinking... hey, oatmeal |
| 06:19.46 | malreth | but i couldn't find anything but instant |
| 06:19.49 | malreth | and that's no good |
| 06:20.01 | Thunder_Child | really?, not even any cookies? |
| 06:20.16 | malreth | i was just looking for oatmean |
| 06:20.31 | malreth | s/an/al/ |
| 06:20.32 | Thunder_Child | mmm...yes, mean oats |
| 06:20.38 | malreth | yeah... |
| 06:20.54 | malreth | although, now that i think about it, I should have checked the bulk aisle |
| 06:21.15 | Thunder_Child | supermarket isnt the bets for things like that |
| 06:21.32 | Tain | You know the cafeteria where I used to work was horrible, absolutely terrible food. But they'd have a big vat of oatmeal in the morning. |
| 06:21.45 | Thunder_Child | some of the smaller stores still have them in the wooden tubs |
| 06:22.00 | Tain | And it was good with some brown sugar and raisins. |
| 06:22.20 | malreth | there's a place like that not far from where i live... Sun Harvest |
| 06:22.30 | malreth | they have grains and stuff in big barrels |
| 06:23.08 | Thunder_Child | your in texas? |
| 06:23.23 | Tain | I really need to find the oatmeal cookie recipe I had. It was just so good. Used no butter, no oils. |
| 06:23.47 | Thunder_Child | the one i have uses neither of thoes as well |
| 06:23.58 | malreth | Thunder_Child: Austin, TX |
| 06:24.13 | Thunder_Child | yea, only place that store is |
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| 06:25.57 | Tain | I'm just slightly disappointed, there's a pot luck at work tomorrow and I wanted to lay down some, "Oh my god these are awesome!" to impress everyone. |
| 06:28.32 | Thunder_Child | Tain: http://wowi.pastey.net/1960 |
| 06:29.07 | malreth | i'll put money on Faithkills and/or Tauruse taking over the "The sky isn't falling" thread now that Slouken locked their last one. |
| 06:29.10 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if that was the first pastey used for a cookie recipes |
| 06:29.17 | Thunder_Child | recipe* |
| 06:29.59 | Tain | hmm.. there's some similarity to what I remember ther Thunder_Child. I don't like using milk powder though. but hmm |
| 06:30.23 | Thunder_Child | so switch it for something else, but make sure to change the amount |
| 06:30.35 | Cairenn | especially since someone was so kind as to bump it for them >< |
| 06:30.38 | Tain | ah! |
| 06:30.45 | Tain | Holy smokeys I found it |
| 06:30.52 | Tain | I was intelligent enough to email it to myself. |
| 06:31.05 | malreth | dead for almost a month but someone went and searched it out, found it, and revived it |
| 06:31.05 | Tain | A little late now since I'm done cooking for the night. |
| 06:31.30 | Thunder_Child | ok, now this one is odd: Mrs Fields Peanut Butter Oatmeal Ranch Cookie |
| 06:31.41 | Thunder_Child | it has sunflower seeds |
| 06:31.42 | Cairenn | ewww |
| 06:31.53 | Cairenn | peanut butter oatmeal ranch?! |
| 06:32.04 | Thunder_Child | yes, but not as the dressing |
| 06:32.09 | Cairenn | oh thank god |
| 06:32.17 | Thunder_Child | heh, it's a style |
| 06:32.28 | Cairenn | that's what I thought you meant, and I was cringing |
| 06:32.41 | malreth | mmm... raaaaanch |
| 06:33.05 | Thunder_Child | wow i remember theese: Little Debbie® Oatmeal Creme Pies |
| 06:33.29 | Thunder_Child | seems to be a crap load of effort to make them though |
| 06:35.24 | malreth | Tauruse has a habit of posting half naked 16 year old pictures on his guild's forums |
| 06:36.00 | Thunder_Child | how do you know they are 16? |
| 06:37.03 | Tain | Ok this is it. http://wow.pastey.net/1961 It really is the best oatmeal cookie I've tasted. |
| 06:37.29 | Thunder_Child | frosted....interesting |
| 06:37.30 | Tain | And it's really low-fat. |
| 06:37.55 | Tain | The frosting is optional, I did it sometimes. Sometimes added butterscotch chips instead of frosting |
| 06:39.35 | Tain | I did cranberries instead of raisins too since I prefer that tangy taste. |
| 06:43.48 | Thunder_Child | this sounds like it would hurt in the morning |
| 06:43.48 | Thunder_Child | The Terminator |
| 06:43.48 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce vodka |
| 06:43.48 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce white rum |
| 06:43.49 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce gin |
| 06:43.51 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce Grand Marnier |
| 06:43.53 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce Kahlua liqueur |
| 06:43.55 | Thunder_Child | 2 ounces sweet and sour mix |
| 06:43.57 | Thunder_Child | 1 ounce cranberry juice |
| 06:43.59 | Thunder_Child | splash of beer |
| 06:44.03 | Tain | ug |
| 06:44.11 | Tain | I was with it until the splash of beer. |
| 06:44.45 | Thunder_Child | Plaent Hollywood recipies |
| 06:44.46 | Thunder_Child | planet* |
| 06:44.55 | Thunder_Child | also comes with: |
| 06:44.55 | Thunder_Child | Cool Running |
| 06:44.55 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce Captain Morgan spiced rum |
| 06:44.55 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce Malibu rum |
| 06:44.55 | Thunder_Child | 3/4 ounce Bacardi Limon |
| 06:44.57 | Thunder_Child | 2 ounces (1/4 cup) pineapple juice |
| 06:44.59 | Thunder_Child | 1 ounce cranberry juice |
| 06:45.01 | Thunder_Child | 1 ounce orange juice |
| 06:45.03 | Thunder_Child | splash of grenadine |
| 06:45.05 | Thunder_Child | splash of Rose's lime juice |
| 06:45.07 | Thunder_Child | splash of Bacardi 151 rum |
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| 06:48.39 | Tain | "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." |
| 06:51.28 | Thunder_Child | they are distinguished by intent |
| 07:06.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, question to anyone that would know |
| 07:06.49 | ScytheBlade1 | SetOverrideBindingItem(owner, isPriority, "KEY", "itemname") |
| 07:07.01 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the functional difference between that and SetBindingItem()? |
| 07:08.35 | Arrowmaster | its an overridebinding, which i think from what ive heard is intended to give the functionality to set bindings to menu items that only work when the menu is active, and go back to their old function when the menu isnt active |
| 07:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, that actually does make sense then |
| 07:10.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ty |
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| 07:42.02 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 08:01.20 | Corrodias | Initiative, or Improved Ambush? |
| 08:01.40 | Corrodias | you don't have to try to answer that, i'm just thinking aloud. sort of. |
| 08:02.00 | Mikk | imp ambush is pvp utility |
| 08:02.08 | Mikk | pick accordingly |
| 08:04.08 | Corrodias | i've seen rogues open with Cheap Shot in pvp |
| 08:04.28 | Corrodias | doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea, i know |
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| 08:06.48 | Tem | cheapshot isn't a bad idea to open with in pvp if you're not attacking an orc or a mage |
| 08:22.48 | Corrodias | i take it Deadliness increases your "base" attack power rather than your "modified" attack power? |
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| 08:26.04 | Tem | I'd guess modified |
| 08:27.39 | Tem | (the example for that being the hunter talent Lightning Reflexes which gives a bonus to total agility (and not only to base agil) |
| 08:28.29 | Corrodias | hmm. |
| 08:29.26 | Corrodias | "Hemo/Prep/Premed is sooooo gear independant it isn't even funny" -- what are "prep" and "premed" here? |
| 08:33.08 | Tem | preperation |
| 08:33.11 | Tem | premeditation |
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| 08:56.18 | Corrodias | wonder if i would like Vigor... |
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| 09:01.34 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know any scripting techniques that can roughly estimate the amount of mobs engaging you? |
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| 09:25.28 | Shrike|work | GremWarsong, theres a bunch of events: CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_CREATURE_* |
| 09:27.10 | Shrike|work | i think you might need to get the unit id's of each mob though in case theres more than one with the same name, not sure how you'd get that |
| 09:28.17 | Shrike|work | UNIT_COMBAT event looks useful :) |
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| 09:35.12 | Shadowed | Can't be done basically |
| 09:35.32 | Shadowed | the closet you could get is monitoring combat logs for how many people are attacking you, but that wont work if they have the same time |
| 09:35.33 | Shadowed | er same name |
| 09:38.35 | Shrike|work | i guess it depends when the UNIT_COMBAT event is fired |
| 09:38.50 | Shrike|work | or if it's fired for mobs |
| 09:39.40 | Shrike|work | UNIT_COMBAT Fired when an npc or player participates in combat |
| 09:39.46 | Shrike|work | seems to be the thing :) |
| 09:44.50 | GremWarsong | seems impossible =/ |
| 09:45.12 | GremWarsong | Maybe determination as to how many times your character is getting hit in a given moment |
| 09:45.29 | GremWarsong | but some mobs attack really fast |
| 09:45.39 | Shrike|work | why do you say it's impossible? |
| 09:46.00 | GremWarsong | because, mobs of the same name, like Shadowed said, would be difficult to track |
| 09:46.12 | Shrike|work | register the UNIT_COMBAT event in your addon, it gives you the unit id's |
| 09:46.18 | Shrike|work | they are unique |
| 09:46.35 | GremWarsong | Really? |
| 09:46.41 | Shrike|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Combat |
| 09:47.18 | GremWarsong | How do you get the unit id? |
| 09:47.29 | Corrodias | : arg1 the UnitID of the entity" |
| 09:47.32 | Shrike|work | register the event |
| 09:47.48 | GremWarsong | ohh, I see |
| 09:47.50 | GremWarsong | Very very sweet |
| 09:48.10 | Shrike|work | i don't know if it's fired when you get attached, you'll have to see :) |
| 09:48.13 | Shrike|work | attacked even |
| 09:48.34 | GremWarsong | Interesting nonetheless, im sure that can be used somehow |
| 09:48.36 | GremWarsong | Thanks for the tip |
| 09:49.23 | Shrike|work | you'd have to maintain a list in your addon too, rather than just ++ a count each time the event is fired |
| 09:49.50 | GremWarsong | Yeah |
| 09:49.58 | GremWarsong | Along with whether they are still engaged or not, etc |
| 09:50.04 | Shrike|work | i'd be willing to bet this is how the targeting works |
| 09:50.14 | Shrike|work | and target's target etc |
| 09:50.29 | GremWarsong | maybe |
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| 11:55.46 | Kaso | howcome i dont seem to be able to surpress error messages, nither error() message() or _ERRORMESSAGE() seems to have any effect |
| 11:58.08 | Shrike|work | why not just fix the error? :) |
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| 12:00.04 | Kaso | :> not quite what im trying to do |
| 12:02.40 | zenzelezz | hrm, both main tanks MIA today... guess we'll only do Onyxia/20-man :-| |
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| 12:04.32 | Warla | howdy |
| 12:05.01 | zenzelezz | hello |
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| 12:58.35 | Warla | http://darky28.dyndns.org/chris/wowprofiles/index.php?id=1 |
| 13:01.33 | Mikma | hi warla! |
| 13:02.05 | Warla | howdy :-) |
| 13:02.13 | zenzelezz | really slow, but nice looking |
| 13:02.22 | Warla | heh ya its on my laptop |
| 13:02.33 | Mikma | well the mainpage hasn't even loaded yet |
| 13:02.34 | Warla | i'd wish i had a beta key.. then i could prepare my website for BC |
| 13:02.36 | Mikma | i only see white |
| 13:02.51 | Warla | will load soon... my modem is blinking like crazy |
| 13:02.58 | Warla | so theres stuff going out heh |
| 13:03.25 | Mery | because I also clicked on it =P (well aborted now will check later) |
| 13:04.07 | Warla | checkout my reputation tab :-) |
| 13:05.29 | Warla | sigh i really need to get some webspace.. my other webspace is fucked as hell.. 2 terrabyte traffic and webspace limit overdrawn already :-/ |
| 13:05.30 | Warla | ISP not happy |
| 13:09.03 | Mikma | Warla: gimme your cash |
| 13:10.25 | Warla | lol |
| 13:10.27 | Warla | heh |
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| 13:10.32 | Warla | i need that for flying mounts in BC |
| 13:10.33 | Warla | heh |
| 13:10.45 | Warla | checked my Reputation tab=? ^^ |
| 13:13.01 | Warla | i was soo pissed this week i didnt hit brood exalted |
| 13:13.05 | Warla | well.. looks like this week |
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| 13:56.06 | axxo | Warla: you are scary. |
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| 14:29.05 | malreth | cogwheel... |
| 14:29.16 | malreth | oooooooooooooOOOOOOooooOOOOOOOOoooooooh |
| 14:29.17 | cogwheel | ut oh... |
| 14:29.27 | cogwheel | wha'd i do?+ |
| 14:29.31 | malreth | you got repoooooooOOOOoooOOOOOOOrted |
| 14:29.51 | cogwheel | oh noes... /cry |
| 14:29.51 | malreth | by someone who is retardeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEeeeeeEEEEEEeeeeeeeeed |
| 14:30.25 | malreth | you broke a rule |
| 14:31.22 | malreth | Tauruse has been banned from the WoW forums at least 2 previous times |
| 14:32.17 | zenzelezz | O_o |
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| 14:33.18 | cogwheel | well forum's under maintenance now, so i'm not to concerned :P |
| 14:33.31 | malreth | he seems to not be making up that he has arthritis, he has a wife and children |
| 14:34.05 | malreth | and has a habit of finding half-naked 16-year olds who post their pictures on photobucket |
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| 14:34.26 | malreth | wb, Cairenn |
| 14:34.36 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 14:35.10 | JoshBork1 | Cairenn: wb :) |
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| 15:00.37 | Cairenn | so, how are folks today? |
| 15:01.00 | JoshBork1 | i got stitches last night! |
| 15:01.09 | Cairenn | ack! what did you do to yourself? |
| 15:01.42 | JoshBork1 | cut my right index finger while preparing dinner |
| 15:01.48 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 15:01.53 | JoshBork1 | so now it is immobilized for a few days |
| 15:02.03 | JoshBork1 | it's weird trying to type without it |
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| 15:03.40 | Cairenn | heh, yeah, I'll bet |
| 15:03.54 | Cairenn | hope it didn't require many stitches? |
| 15:04.26 | JoshBork1 | 5 |
| 15:04.36 | malreth | yowch |
| 15:04.42 | malreth | dull knife? |
| 15:04.46 | Cairenn | that's a lot, on a finger |
| 15:04.52 | JoshBork1 | which is how many hours i was there |
| 15:05.00 | JoshBork1 | it was about an inch long |
| 15:05.06 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 15:05.39 | Cairenn | that'll teach you not to play with knives :p |
| 15:05.52 | malreth | i cut my thumb the other day |
| 15:05.55 | JoshBork1 | lol |
| 15:06.01 | malreth | i didn't pinch the knife correctly |
| 15:06.14 | malreth | and i nicked myself on the heel of the blade |
| 15:06.20 | malreth | that knife is stupidly sharp |
| 15:07.55 | JoshBork1 | nice :) |
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| 15:09.07 | krka | nice, finally downed stitches! |
| 15:09.23 | JoshBork1 | woot! |
| 15:09.39 | krka | i had to have high level help for it |
| 15:09.59 | malreth | hey, we were just talking about stitches |
| 15:10.21 | krka | j/k |
| 15:11.37 | Cairenn | you guys should thank me, I'm being kind and not telling you about the only time I've ever had stitches |
| 15:12.03 | malreth | how old were you at the time? |
| 15:12.08 | Cairenn | 21 |
| 15:12.19 | JoshBork1 | what happened? |
| 15:12.31 | malreth | no... |
| 15:12.34 | malreth | not that! |
| 15:13.06 | JoshBork1 | tell me you chopped an appendage completely off! |
| 15:13.21 | Cairenn | I suppose in a way you could say that |
| 15:13.24 | Cairenn | *snicker* |
| 15:14.09 | malreth | i knew it! |
| 15:14.15 | malreth | Cairenn used to be a guy! |
| 15:14.19 | JoshBork1 | LOL |
| 15:14.21 | Cairenn | rofl, no |
| 15:14.29 | TS|Skrom | lol I was just about to say Cairenn used to be known as Carl? |
| 15:14.48 | Cairenn | 96 stitches though |
| 15:14.57 | JoshBork1 | wow! nice! |
| 15:15.06 | JoshBork1 | what'd you cut off and why? :P |
| 15:15.16 | Cairenn | I "cut off" my daughter ... |
| 15:15.19 | TS|Skrom | cut 'er 'ead clean off she did |
| 15:15.26 | malreth | c-section |
| 15:15.29 | zenzelezz | I was just about to ask "cesarian" |
| 15:15.36 | Cairenn | nope |
| 15:15.40 | Cairenn | just tore |
| 15:15.47 | malreth | ah |
| 15:16.27 | JoshBork1 | you were drugged right? |
| 15:16.29 | zenzelezz | if I'd ever had any stitches I might have had a better idea how much 5 or even 96 actually is |
| 15:16.32 | Cairenn | nope |
| 15:16.32 | zenzelezz | not just a number |
| 15:16.36 | JoshBork1 | OOOOOO |
| 15:16.59 | JoshBork1 | damn finger offset |
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| 15:17.29 | JoshBork1 | wow, that must have hurt TONS |
| 15:17.42 | Cairenn | I don't know, I was in too much pain, and too frantic over here |
| 15:17.44 | Cairenn | her* |
| 15:17.47 | malreth | that's pretty young for you, though |
| 15:18.14 | JoshBork1 | off to work |
| 15:18.19 | JoshBork1 | ciao for now |
| 15:18.21 | Cairenn | the labour went *very* fast so they had no time to dope me, and she was in trouble, so that was all I was thinking about |
| 15:18.23 | Cairenn | later JoshBork |
| 15:19.57 | Cairenn | anyway, I'll stop teasing you guys now |
| 15:20.20 | krka | i am not getting it, and i am kinda glad i dont |
| 15:22.35 | zenzelezz | seconded krka |
| 15:22.40 | malreth | lemme go find some pictures, krka... |
| 15:23.26 | zenzelezz | malreth: you imagine people would actually view them when they're expressing their happiness about their ignorance? |
| 15:23.57 | malreth | yes... i think they would |
| 15:24.06 | malreth | if i told them it was a picture of a unicorn |
| 15:24.10 | malreth | everyone loves unicorns |
| 15:24.16 | malreth | and rainbows |
| 15:24.17 | Cairenn | let's not and say we didn't, okay? |
| 15:24.18 | zenzelezz | rule #1-3 of IRC, never trust links |
| 15:24.52 | malreth | http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2006/10/superstition.html |
| 15:25.03 | malreth | has nothing to do with child birth or blood or stitches or pain |
| 15:25.41 | malreth | i love terra nova articles |
| 15:26.12 | zenzelezz | good for you |
| 15:27.58 | malreth | it does involve pigeons and epic loot, however |
| 15:28.57 | JoshBorke | hello! |
| 15:29.19 | zenzelezz | hi |
| 15:30.07 | malreth | goodbye |
| 15:40.21 | cogwheel | off to work |
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| 16:36.04 | Qshadowp[NS] | omg |
| 16:36.08 | Qshadowp[NS] | imageshack is down |
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| 16:41.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | Greetings... |
| 16:41.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Got a non wow, but coding related question... |
| 16:42.26 | JoshBorke | shoot |
| 16:42.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can someone recommend a free multi-file diff/compare tool? |
| 16:42.42 | JoshBorke | diff? |
| 16:42.48 | krka | what JoshBorke said |
| 16:42.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | I have a 2 sets of files I would like to difference/compare. |
| 16:42.55 | krka | diff works |
| 16:42.57 | JoshBorke | vimdiff |
| 16:43.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm on windows |
| 16:43.09 | krka | get cygwin |
| 16:43.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | :p |
| 16:43.15 | JoshBorke | so is vimdiff |
| 16:43.28 | krka | diff -r will compare recursively |
| 16:43.30 | Corrodias | through arcane trickery, you can make linux programs run, which doesn't enhance their usability at all |
| 16:43.41 | Corrodias | *some simple linux utilities |
| 16:44.09 | JoshBorke | class time bye |
| 16:44.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | I would like it to do the set, at once.. with VIMdiff can I do that, or do I have to load each file into vim to do the diff? |
| 16:47.26 | Qshadowp[NS] | can anyone tell me what this tooltip mod is? |
| 16:47.27 | Qshadowp[NS] | http://img1.putfile.com/main/10/30311463749.jpg |
| 16:48.15 | Gngsk | prolly not because putfile scaled down the image |
| 16:48.26 | Qshadowp[NS] | no i found it in a film |
| 16:48.33 | Qshadowp[NS] | and for some reason when i tried to screenshot the film |
| 16:48.38 | Qshadowp[NS] | it just come up black |
| 16:48.42 | Qshadowp[NS] | so i had to open it in windows movie maker |
| 16:48.46 | Qshadowp[NS] | that scaled it down :P |
| 16:48.52 | Corrodias | actually, it wasn't pure black. |
| 16:49.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | IT's too small to see it ;( |
| 16:49.21 | Qshadowp[NS] | hmm |
| 16:49.25 | Corrodias | it was a specific color that your video card replaces with the overlay image, or something |
| 16:49.26 | Qshadowp[NS] | ill try and sort out the screenshot |
| 16:49.28 | Gngsk | screenshot's black because video is just overlay |
| 16:49.46 | Corrodias | you can also get around it by opening the video in two different players at the same time, because only one can use the overlay |
| 16:50.13 | Qshadowp[NS] | hehe |
| 16:50.18 | Qshadowp[NS] | just gonna try it in vlc media player |
| 16:50.24 | Qshadowp[NS] | vlc is teh win when it comes to video stuff. |
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| 16:53.16 | Qshadowp[NS] | nah still comes up black :( |
| 16:54.27 | Cide | Nomad_Wanderer: BeyondCompare2 is great |
| 16:54.38 | Qshadowp[NS] | well its a tooltip that looks like Perl UnitFrames basically |
| 16:54.54 | Qshadowp[NS] | shows target of target, targets guild, targets class, mana, health |
| 16:54.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks.. I just downloaded Winmerge... That's GPL, is BeyondCompare2 GPL? |
| 16:55.09 | Qshadowp[NS] | i tried tinytip but its a bugged as hell and i don't like it : |
| 16:55.10 | Qshadowp[NS] | :< |
| 16:55.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | Wow BC2 is hot. |
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| 16:56.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | And $30 doesn't sound too bad for the feature set.. You're using this Cide? |
| 16:56.34 | Cide | yes |
| 16:56.59 | Cide | has worked fine so far for merging release and PTR files for my mods |
| 16:57.33 | Xavalia | does anyone know the raid unit frames that is used most of the time with oRA? |
| 16:57.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | sortof what I need to do as well.. I'm dl'ing it now. .Thanks for recommendation |
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| 17:01.36 | [Cu]Werik | Guys, does any of you have german TBC client? |
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| 17:03.42 | Maldivia | Hmm... |
| 17:04.46 | Maldivia | anyone online/available who has played/worked with the SecureRaidGroupHeader templates? |
| 17:04.51 | Xavalia | kinda sucks oRA2 does not come with a raid unit frame.. which mods can be used for a small overview? |
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| 17:07.32 | Xuerian | Xavalia: oRA2 isn't for raidframes. It's a raid management/interaction mod, just what it's supposed to be. Perfectraid or aUF are unitframes. |
| 17:09.03 | Xavalia | Xuerian, yeah I know.. am used to much to ctra I guess :P ok thanx I will look into that.. tested X-Perl raid frame but not compatable with oRA2 |
| 17:10.03 | Xuerian | PerfectRaid is pretty much the prime companion to oRA, but aUF and sRF are common favorites. XRaidStatus is good if you don't actually need the unitframes, just whatever collective health/mana/status bars you want. |
| 17:10.30 | Xavalia | I will look them all up |
| 17:10.41 | Xavalia | pretty much has be clean and able to quickly change settings |
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| 17:10.51 | Xavalia | based on whether I go dps or heal for example |
| 17:11.33 | Xuerian | Both pRaid and aUF are highlighy configurable, if you're just dps'ing, XRS would suffice |
| 17:11.39 | Nomad_Wanderer__ | Yikes.. what just happened to the NE ? |
| 17:11.54 | Nomad_Wanderer__ | The getting horrible tracerts anywhere in the NE :( |
| 17:12.10 | Xavalia | Xuerian, both kinda depending.. if I am dps'ing only want the first group visible and when healing I want to see all for example.. I look into it |
| 17:13.25 | Xavalia | Xuerian, what are the full names? can only find perfectraid |
| 17:13.35 | Xuerian | PerfectRaid and XRS/Xraidstatus |
| 17:13.51 | Xavalia | and 'aUF' ? |
| 17:13.57 | Xuerian | auf is either auf, ag_uf, or ag_UnitFrames |
| 17:14.28 | Xavalia | ah last one found it |
| 17:14.33 | Xavalia | got xrs already |
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| 17:18.42 | malreth | Tauruse is something else... I figured it'd take him until noon to start trolling again |
| 17:19.27 | cogwheel | Nah... I bet he'll go through months of post history to dig up old threads if they keep getting locked... |
| 17:19.27 | malreth | central time, that is... i guess it's noon right now over on the east coast |
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| 17:25.57 | wereHamster | cool.. whispers are transmitted in plaintext.. |
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| 17:28.28 | Qshadowp[NS] | Does anyone know of a good tooltip mod that shows hp\mana\guild\name\rank ? |
| 17:29.46 | Xavalia | tipbuddy |
| 17:30.26 | Qshadowp[NS] | yea looks good ty :> |
| 17:37.21 | cogwheel | malreth: think this'll help my karma any? ;) http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=42584363&postId=425906085&sid=1#5 |
| 17:38.21 | malreth | just now reading that one |
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| 17:55.40 | cogwheel | is PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED fired at login? |
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| 17:59.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think curse gaming just read my mind |
| 18:00.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i was going to download an addon and it was the random addon chosen |
| 18:00.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the addon insider D: |
| 18:01.00 | zenzelezz | well, your mind is like an open book... |
| 18:01.01 | zenzelezz | ;) |
| 18:01.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | for some reason i'm singing that phrase |
| 18:01.51 | Maldivia | cogwheel: not to my knowledge, but the disabled is fired, if you're in combat when you enter the game |
| 18:01.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | what is that from, other than just being a phrase |
| 18:02.04 | Maldivia | cogwheel: as far as I know, the frames are not secure-locked on logon |
| 18:02.28 | Qshadowp[NS] | is there any way to move the world map? |
| 18:02.35 | Xavalia | great.. perfect raid is crashing >.< |
| 18:02.36 | Qshadowp[NS] | i only want to move it once and then i want it to stay where i put it :P |
| 18:02.40 | cogwheel | thanks |
| 18:02.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | move it? doesn't it fill the full screen? |
| 18:03.24 | Qshadowp[NS] | Mr_Rabies im useing 2 screens to play wow |
| 18:03.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahh |
| 18:03.31 | Qshadowp[NS] | and its stuck in the middle, extremly irritateing. |
| 18:03.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | you could get alphamap and move that :O |
| 18:03.46 | Qshadowp[NS] | oO i have alphamap allready |
| 18:03.49 | Qshadowp[NS] | didn't know it did that |
| 18:04.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah you can drag it but it's a bit hard to find the drag point |
| 18:04.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dont even use the worldmap anymore because alphamap rocks it |
| 18:05.18 | Qshadowp[NS] | i use alpha map as it is |
| 18:05.24 | Qshadowp[NS] | its kinda like a double size mini map |
| 18:05.29 | Qshadowp[NS] | on my secondary screen :P |
| 18:05.35 | Qshadowp[NS] | but i still need the full screen world map |
| 18:05.58 | Qshadowp[NS] | i tried to find a command to change the alphamap position but i couldn't find one :( |
| 18:06.04 | Qshadowp[NS] | or else i would just make a macro to make alphamap full screen |
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| 18:07.01 | Xavalia | does anyone know of Perfectraid is alligned with oRA 1? with oRA2 is gives an error.. |
| 18:11.16 | Tem | PerfectRaid has **nothing** to do with ORA 1 or 2 |
| 18:13.16 | Xavalia | well is there a way to reset it or something? |
| 18:13.25 | Xavalia | keep popping up an error >.< |
| 18:15.21 | Qshadowp[NS] | is there any way to move Alphamaps overlay with a macro? |
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| 18:47.36 | ckknight | Happy Halloween everyone |
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| 19:11.18 | Qshadowp[NS] | happy halloween :D |
| 19:11.29 | JoshBorke | happy halloween |
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| 19:17.46 | JoshBorke | anyone good with making textures for mods? |
| 19:19.55 | Cide | very limited |
| 19:20.19 | JoshBorke | hrm. i'm looking for someone to make some for my mod... |
| 19:20.42 | Cide | ah, I don't think I can help you :) too much to do, too little time! |
| 19:20.43 | JoshBorke | Mikk: *scorpion* over here! |
| 19:21.15 | Mikk | humwa? =) |
| 19:21.23 | JoshBorke | textures in wow? ^_^ |
| 19:21.35 | Mikk | yea |
| 19:21.38 | Mikk | i make those |
| 19:21.46 | JoshBorke | wanna make some for me? ^_^ |
| 19:21.52 | Mikk | sure |
| 19:22.23 | JoshBorke | i'm currently using textures from tinypad in GuildBook but I need more |
| 19:23.25 | Mikk | hm |
| 19:23.45 | Cide | do it yourself :) |
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| 19:23.52 | Qshadowp[NS] | noes :< |
| 19:24.28 | [floyd] | Heh, I'm just using WoW textures and run them through some random photoshop filters ^^ |
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| 19:34.50 | malreth | rawr! |
| 19:38.02 | malreth | our university is now setting up 802.1x wireless access |
| 19:38.07 | cogwheel | :) Mac-o-lantern: http://www3.uark.edu/bkst/macmod/page1.htm |
| 19:38.08 | malreth | which is a big deal |
| 19:38.32 | malreth | since we have over several million valid user ids in our system |
| 19:38.42 | Warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/index.php?id=1 checkout my reputation tab ^^ |
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| 19:39.59 | malreth | the fan in the nose is a nice touch, cogwheel |
| 19:40.30 | cogwheel | not mine, sad to say :P just found it |
| 19:40.45 | malreth | pff... i know it's not you |
| 19:41.41 | malreth | the el-wire apple logo is pretty snazzy, too |
| 19:41.54 | malreth | that stuff is fun to play with |
| 19:42.07 | malreth | i used some one year to make a glowing halo |
| 19:42.20 | cogwheel | I've never seen it before, myself... |
| 19:42.36 | malreth | in the dark, you couldn't see the wire that held it up and it really looked like it was hovering over my head |
| 19:48.52 | Kirkburn | Warla, that's a lot of exalted |
| 19:49.22 | Kirkburn | Argh, bloody trick or treaters :P Just had to move our bikes from the entrance corridor to the flat lest they 'dissappear' |
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| 20:10.59 | malreth | i've been uncharacteristically productive today |
| 20:13.41 | Maldivia | Iriel? |
| 20:14.13 | Iriel | Yes? |
| 20:14.51 | Maldivia | the secure raid header, it creates a frame for you, with the template you specify, and then calls an optional function to set it up, correct? |
| 20:15.26 | Iriel | yes, there's one step between those two which allows you to set atttributes on the frame(s) even if they're protected. |
| 20:16.10 | Maldivia | what if my function creates more frames from secure templates, that are children of the frame the header template code created for me, can I set attributes on that aswell? |
| 20:16.19 | Iriel | yes |
| 20:16.32 | Iriel | it's inherited through the parent-child relatonship |
| 20:17.15 | Maldivia | but I have to specfy the parent in the CreateFrame call, right? |
| 20:17.26 | Iriel | You would, yes |
| 20:17.36 | Maldivia | frame=CreateFrame(...) frame:SetParent(blah) would not work, I presume |
| 20:17.39 | Iriel | otherwise you wont inherit the ability to make changes |
| 20:17.43 | Iriel | right |
| 20:17.44 | Maldivia | yeah exactly :) |
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| 20:17.52 | Maldivia | OK, thanks :) |
| 20:18.00 | Iriel | (All of this being an 'in combat' scenario) |
| 20:18.06 | Maldivia | yeah :) |
| 20:18.07 | Iriel | out of combat you can do whatever you want, of course |
| 20:18.58 | Maldivia | was just thinking, otherwise you couldn't use the state header template with the raid header template, since you wouldn't be able to set attributes on the children you would add :) |
| 20:19.07 | Maldivia | wasn't sure the attribute-right was inherited |
| 20:20.19 | Maldivia | btw, how can we do "unit exists" state changes, for unit not being watched by SecureUnitWatchFrame ? |
| 20:20.46 | Iriel | You make it watched 8-) |
| 20:21.48 | Maldivia | yeah ok, the onupdate with catch it anyway, it's just wont force update on the event |
| 20:21.56 | Maldivia | nevermind :) |
| 20:22.45 | Maldivia | a lot of new stuff to read through... and not being in the beta, makes it at times harder, since you can't test it :| |
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| 20:28.37 | `-FISKER_Q\ | btw Iriel |
| 20:28.52 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Looks like Slouken changed the way loot treshhold is assigned in TBC :) |
| 20:29.31 | Iriel | Is it bounded now? |
| 20:29.38 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i don't know |
| 20:29.58 | Aens|Superiority | anyone had any experience setting up ndkp here? |
| 20:29.58 | `-FISKER_Q\ | but atleast a number cannot be used to set treshold |
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| 20:30.12 | Plorkyeran | Bah |
| 20:30.18 | Plorkyeran | Being able to set it to 0 was fun |
| 20:30.50 | `-FISKER_Q\ | yeah :D |
| 20:30.56 | `-FISKER_Q\ | people got mad |
| 20:31.11 | `-FISKER_Q\ | dunno if you can set it below or over standard treshhold works anymore though |
| 20:31.26 | Corrodias | hay you guyz |
| 20:31.33 | Plorkyeran | Useful for guilds that used ML in MC, too |
| 20:31.36 | Maldivia | Plorkyeran: you've always been able to set it to 0 |
| 20:31.52 | Plorkyeran | <>`-FISKER_Q\<> but atleast a number cannot be used to set treshold |
| 20:32.20 | Maldivia | Setting it to -1 was fun :) |
| 20:35.39 | Maldivia | Iriel: if I call editbox:SetText(...), will that taint the editbox? |
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| 20:36.28 | Plorkyeran | If it doesn't, it's probably a bug |
| 20:36.41 | Iriel | yes, it will |
| 20:36.56 | Iriel | That is to say, it taints the text IN the edit box |
| 20:37.49 | Maldivia | Ok, was just looking at the security bug someone posted on the forums, and looked through the code, and noticed the securecall("MacroFrame_SaveMacro") call |
| 20:38.39 | Iriel | That wont help you, securecall doesn't clear taint |
| 20:38.46 | Maldivia | I know |
| 20:38.50 | Iriel | it just stops taint on the 'far side' from spreading upstream |
| 20:39.56 | malreth | we should continue the use of the phrase, "clean its own taint" |
| 20:40.25 | Maldivia | or just, clean up after tain... ohh wait, that's something else... :) |
| 20:40.41 | krka | no, that's the same thing |
| 20:41.43 | TS|Skrom | except one requires pennicillan |
| 20:43.35 | malreth | ~wiki taint (slang) |
| 20:45.50 | malreth | purl has a dirty mouth! |
| 20:47.21 | Corrodias | lewd and obscene. that means people just don't like to hear the word. oh noes! |
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| 21:08.05 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:09.38 | malreth | http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2006/10/31/ctypes |
| 21:10.04 | malreth | a limerick buried deep in the Mac OS |
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| 21:20.41 | malreth | did you know... there is a livejournal community dedicated to slashing the two guys from the new mac commercials |
| 21:20.44 | malreth | ? |
| 21:22.22 | Guillotine | lol. inteeeresting... |
| 21:22.24 | malreth | TITLE: Trimming Down |
| 21:22.24 | malreth | RATING: PG-13/R (depends on how dirty you think flash drive insertion is) |
| 21:22.24 | malreth | PAIRING: Mac/PC |
| 21:22.25 | malreth | SUMMARY: PC's trying to get in shape. Mac doesn't think he needs to change at all. |
| 21:22.41 | malreth | aSTOUNDing!!! |
| 21:23.17 | malreth | ANYTHING can be a fetish on the Interwebs |
| 21:31.21 | malreth | fun with rollercoaster tycoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQrC_C6SexI |
| 21:33.50 | Guillotine | haha, thats great malreth |
| 21:35.34 | Industrial | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_103106_223118cb6.jpg |
| 21:35.36 | Industrial | 666 crit :P |
| 21:35.56 | Guillotine | spooky :P |
| 21:39.01 | cogwheel | i seem to hit for 666 as my warlock a lot |
| 21:39.28 | ckknight | you seem to hit at 666 because you watch for that number. |
| 21:39.35 | ckknight | humans seek patterns |
| 21:39.45 | ckknight | you won't realize the non-666 numbers as easily |
| 21:39.47 | cogwheel | yeah, i know :) |
| 21:39.56 | cogwheel | I have to tell my wife things like that a lot |
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| 21:40.04 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 21:40.06 | malreth | more link flooding |
| 21:40.07 | malreth | http://www.netliferesearch.com/files/kalender_2006_eng_A3.pdf |
| 21:41.39 | Cide | damn pdf files |
| 21:41.49 | Guillotine | wow, and it took a research group to figure that stuff out? |
| 21:41.50 | axxo | my lock hits for ~1100 alot |
| 21:41.57 | axxo | if i tweak my spell dmg it'll be 666 |
| 21:44.08 | cogwheel | awww.... :( I want a binary calendar |
| 21:45.18 | malreth | later all |
| 21:45.20 | Thunder_Child | howabout a binary watich? |
| 21:45.25 | Thunder_Child | watch* |
| 21:45.26 | Guillotine | haha worldofwar's irc server finally crashed from all the people |
| 21:45.32 | Guillotine | they have one of those at thinkgeek.com |
| 21:45.48 | Thunder_Child | yup |
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| 21:59.35 | Kirkburn | Awesome, they have 4 of the Warcraft books on Amazon for £7.23 |
| 22:00.01 | fathom | Kirkburn, link? |
| 22:00.02 | zenzelezz | total or a piece? |
| 22:08.32 | Kirkburn | Captain Kirkburn to the rescue! |
| 22:08.45 | Kirkburn | Spammage: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Warcraft-Archive-Richard-Knaak/dp/1416525823/sr=1-10/qid=1162331932/ref=sr_1_10/203-2897977-9512755?ie=UTF8&s=books |
| 22:13.32 | cladhaire | i'm disappointed. |
| 22:13.34 | cladhaire | that was far from spam |
| 22:13.45 | cladhaire | i was really excited about spam |
| 22:14.00 | Kirkburn | It's hard to tell with addresses that go way way past your entry box :P |
| 22:15.05 | Kirkburn | It'll be the first Warcraft book I'll have got :) |
| 22:15.32 | cladhaire | I haven't bought any |
| 22:15.39 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: ooh.. work on my CV for me! |
| 22:15.46 | cladhaire | and my applications |
| 22:16.16 | Kirkburn | Since when did I become your bitch? :) |
| 22:16.42 | Thunder_Child | Kirk, do you really want an answer to that? |
| 22:16.49 | Kirkburn | Hmm, good point |
| 22:17.06 | Kirkburn | \o/ |
| 22:17.17 | Thunder_Child | i mean dont get me wrong, i have one |
| 22:17.49 | Kirkburn | I'll do it, as long as I can use my 'artistic license' :P |
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| 22:19.05 | Kirkburn | Hey, who stole cladhaire? :( |
| 22:20.05 | Thunder_Child | he is sulking.....something about loseing his "bitch:....i dunno what he means |
| 22:24.47 | cladhaire | Kirkburn: Hehe any embellishment would be good at this point.. its a blank sheet of paper =) |
| 22:24.58 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:25.15 | cladhaire | although "fanatical nazi supporter and architect of the armenian genocide" might hurt my case |
| 22:25.50 | cladhaire | what i really need is for my laptop to leave Shanghai |
| 22:26.08 | Kirkburn | Possibly, possibly, depends whether you're applying to join the SS, of course |
| 22:26.54 | Kirkburn | Why is it in Shanghai? |
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| 22:27.59 | cladhaire | because that's where apple's environmentally corrupt sweatshop workers are assembling it. |
| 22:28.32 | Kirkburn | Oooh, true. |
| 22:28.37 | Thunder_Child | and yet your still buying one |
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| 22:32.09 | Maldivia | damn, Leeroy has his own card in the wow deck: http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/dragonballzcentral_1921_231231152 |
| 22:32.31 | Guillotine | lol, ya. I saw that |
| 22:32.57 | Guillotine | wonder if he gets royalties |
| 22:33.22 | Thunder_Child | not only that, he is epic |
| 22:33.33 | Thunder_Child | sad sad day |
| 22:34.05 | Thunder_Child | besides, the quote at the bottom should be "i have chicken" |
| 22:34.50 | Osagasu | You forgot 'least |
| 22:35.09 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 22:35.11 | Thunder_Child | ok then |
| 22:36.17 | Osagasu | " 'least I have chicken." |
| 22:36.40 | Guillotine | I thought it was " 'least I got chicken" |
| 22:36.59 | Osagasu | Might be |
| 22:37.34 | Thunder_Child | i didnt memorize it that well |
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| 22:39.45 | Guillotine | bbiab |
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| 22:48.16 | Corrodias | so i heard that it's easier to find decent swords for a rogue levelling than it is to find daggers |
| 22:55.14 | Maldivia | hmm, 15man MC... yeah, why not |
| 22:55.48 | Mery | hmm yeah 3 warriors at the warrior trainer, all with a legendary weapon |
| 22:56.24 | AnduinLothar | beta is soo imba, all i see is hand of rag, thunder fury and askandi |
| 22:57.05 | AnduinLothar | occational severance |
| 22:57.32 | Maldivia | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=70567129&sid=1 |
| 22:58.50 | Mery | no dwarfs... |
| 22:59.02 | AnduinLothar | no fear |
| 22:59.16 | cladhaire | sexy |
| 22:59.31 | AnduinLothar | after magmadar you dont need dwarves |
| 23:00.30 | Mery | you don't really need em for mag with that gear and a timer... |
| 23:00.42 | Maldivia | do the stance dance... |
| 23:01.12 | AnduinLothar | exactly |
| 23:01.15 | SP|Sorren | horde dont have dwarves, why would you need dwarves? |
| 23:01.46 | AnduinLothar | besides oyu have pallies with salvation, let him get feared |
| 23:05.03 | Cairenn | OMG! Have you guys seen today's GUComic? |
| 23:05.36 | Maldivia | heh |
| 23:05.42 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 23:05.59 | zenzelezz | love that site, his humor matches mine |
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| 23:40.33 | Qshadowp[NS] | anyone here that knows about a mod called Tipbuddy? |
| 23:40.52 | Kaso | well... i use it. |
| 23:41.01 | Qshadowp[NS] | when i mouse over people in my party |
| 23:41.08 | Qshadowp[NS] | the tooltip cycles round my entire party |
| 23:41.39 | Kaso | thats very odd |
| 23:42.18 | Qshadowp[NS] | yea :< |
| 23:42.32 | Qshadowp[NS] | i'll get a film of it and youtube it, gimme a sec |
| 23:42.43 | Kaso | i cant even work out why it'd be coded like that |
| 23:46.41 | cogwheel | Ding 50 pages of forum post history XD |
| 23:47.17 | Qshadowp[NS] | gz xD |
| 23:47.26 | Maldivia | hehe... I'm only on around 20 I think |
| 23:47.41 | Maldivia | or well, below I think |
