| 00:00.20 | Kirkburn | Updated :) http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13151493&postId=131602419&sid=1#0 |
| 00:01.23 | Cairenn | looks fine to me |
| 00:01.54 | End | hmm |
| 00:02.12 | End | "This forum is currently undergoing maintenance, please check back at a later time. " |
| 00:02.57 | Kirkburn | Don't get that here |
| 00:03.06 | Kirkburn | Ah, US ones I do |
| 00:03.09 | End | exactly |
| 00:03.18 | Cairenn | just went down again, yeah |
| 00:03.43 | End | the us forums seem to be a bit flaky lately |
| 00:03.58 | Cairenn | lately? |
| 00:04.19 | End | ? |
| 00:04.27 | Guillotine | they've always been flaky |
| 00:04.31 | End | heh |
| 00:04.36 | End | well, I've noticed more lately |
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| 00:12.22 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 00:20.28 | Kirkburn | ckknight, that's *so* an auto-reponse. I can't believe it's taken me this long to notice |
| 00:20.46 | Guillotine | o.O I think you're right |
| 00:21.18 | Kirkburn | I had my suspicions yesterday when I saw it three times :P |
| 00:21.36 | Guillotine | in multiple channels :P |
| 00:21.40 | Kirkburn | It's pretty advanced, though, I must say |
| 00:21.51 | Kirkburn | (seems to have random lead-in times) |
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| 00:23.55 | hugo | hi, do anyone by chance tested nanostats2 ? |
| 00:25.19 | ckknight | Kirkburn, what's an autoresponse? |
| 00:25.26 | ckknight | me saying "hey all"? |
| 00:25.30 | ckknight | nah, I do that manually |
| 00:25.40 | ckknight | when I come online, I say it in the channels |
| 00:25.58 | Kirkburn | Every single time? \o/ |
| 00:26.01 | ckknight | so that people can become aware of my presence |
| 00:26.03 | ckknight | most times, Kirkburn |
| 00:26.05 | ckknight | at least if I remember |
| 00:26.16 | Kirkburn | Wow, I take that back then :) |
| 00:26.20 | weab | he's so friendly |
| 00:26.22 | JoshBork1 | anyone help me test my mod? |
| 00:26.30 | ckknight | I like to be courteous |
| 00:26.37 | ckknight | but I'm also attention-driven |
| 00:26.46 | ckknight | so it's nice to have people greet me as I come in |
| 00:26.52 | ckknight | typically Cairenn in #wowi |
| 00:26.57 | Guillotine | lol |
| 00:27.06 | Kirkburn | My liege! |
| 00:27.09 | ckknight | mmm... lower |
| 00:27.15 | Kirkburn | O.o |
| 00:27.30 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:27.38 | End | don't just move away |
| 00:27.40 | End | run away |
| 00:27.41 | End | flee! |
| 00:27.52 | ckknight | you're just mad, End, cause you can't have me |
| 00:27.56 | End | lol |
| 00:28.02 | ckknight | mmhmm |
| 00:29.09 | weab | i promise to give you attention when i start playing again and want to whine about fubar this or that :P |
| 00:29.09 | ckknight | JoshBork1, what mod? |
| 00:29.15 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:29.21 | ckknight | FuBar's pretty stable now |
| 00:29.32 | weab | i'm a pro at breaking things |
| 00:29.34 | JoshBork1 | ckknight: GuildBook |
| 00:29.35 | ckknight | and I'm mostly hacking Ace2 |
| 00:29.37 | weab | just wait |
| 00:29.52 | Kirkburn | ckknight, I've noticed the 2.1s and the 2.2s |
| 00:29.59 | Tain | FuBar's fine, it's those pesky plugins that cause trouble. |
| 00:30.04 | ckknight | yep. |
| 00:30.06 | ckknight | and right, Tain |
| 00:33.36 | ckknight | I have an issue: I need to hook ChatFrame_OnEvent to stop some events from showing (such as joining the AceComm channel), but if I do that in TBC, it prevents EXECUTE_CHAT_LINE from working correctly |
| 00:33.48 | ckknight | anyone have a solution? |
| 00:34.04 | ckknight | I can't really hook ChatFrame1.AddMessage, cause it doesn't catch everything... |
| 00:35.02 | Guillotine | isn't that what the hooksecurefunc thing is for? |
| 00:36.00 | ckknight | with hooksecurefunc, I can't prevent the original function from working. |
| 00:36.00 | Kirkburn | I feel your pain. Uh, not that I need to test anything. But it's pain nonetheless... |
| 00:36.03 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 00:36.07 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 00:36.07 | Cairenn | sorry, was afk just then |
| 00:36.32 | Cairenn | and yes, it's courteous to say hello when you arrive and bye when you're leaving, I wish more people would do it |
| 00:36.39 | ckknight | what I have now is that if it sees the AceComm join, then it returns silently, otherwise runs the standard func |
| 00:36.48 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, he tried to make me ... aaah, I can't say it /me goes and cries |
| 00:36.49 | ckknight | I appreciate it |
| 00:36.52 | Guillotine | I say bye, but I'm always afraid I'm going to interrupt a conversation if I say hello :( |
| 00:37.10 | Guillotine | even with the 10 second rule |
| 00:37.11 | ckknight | well, I have my whole center-of-the-universe mentality |
| 00:37.39 | ckknight | so the conversation didn't happen before I joined, because I wasn't observing it |
| 00:37.45 | Kirkburn | When it comes to down to it ... *everything# boils down to ckknight. |
| 00:37.51 | ckknight | so I wouldn't really be interrupting anything |
| 00:38.01 | weab | bah. formalities. isn't blatant rudeness why we use the internet? |
| 00:38.18 | Kirkburn | Ah, that must be why I can never remember whole sections of my day! |
| 00:38.38 | Guillotine | stfu weab, be polite. jeez, wtf is with some people |
| 00:38.58 | weab | amen |
| 00:39.09 | ckknight | Kirkburn, it's more Truman Show-esque |
| 00:39.40 | Kirkburn | You have a tendency to wear black? |
| 00:39.52 | ckknight | no, I'm wearing a white shirt and jeans |
| 00:40.05 | ckknight | my shirt says "I usually date 10's, but I'll settle for two 5's" |
| 00:40.07 | ckknight | :-) |
| 00:41.07 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:41.08 | Osagasu | =D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D |
| 00:41.20 | Osagasu | I'm gettin' the Collector's Edition! |
| 00:41.29 | Kirkburn | Osagasu, you seem to have got stuck buttons, let me unstick them for you |
| 00:41.33 | End | too many "=D"! |
| 00:41.38 | Guillotine | grats. you're paying a bunch of extra money for an in-game pet that does nothing |
| 00:41.55 | weab | the art book is neat. |
| 00:41.55 | Kirkburn | ckknight, which country's Size 10 is that? |
| 00:41.59 | weab | well, the orginal wow:ce one was |
| 00:41.59 | Osagasu | I'm not paying for it. :P |
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| 00:42.09 | Guillotine | then grats! |
| 00:42.15 | Kirkburn | (UK size 10 != US size 10 by a long shot) |
| 00:42.15 | End | art books are usually only good the first time through I think though |
| 00:42.16 | Osagasu | xD |
| 00:42.36 | weab | it's a coffee table kind of thing. |
| 00:42.41 | Kirkburn | I'm getting the CE too, once I find a shop |
| 00:42.46 | Kirkburn | Free how? |
| 00:42.55 | Thunder_Child | the art book isnt for you, it's for everyone else that comes to visit |
| 00:43.01 | weab | yes |
| 00:43.05 | Thunder_Child | that is if you have visitors... |
| 00:43.06 | weab | show off your nerdiness |
| 00:43.11 | Thunder_Child | excluding the cops |
| 00:43.13 | weab | to all your nerd friends |
| 00:43.15 | Tain | Technically speaking everyone is paying a bunch of money for a game that does nothing. Except be a game. |
| 00:43.31 | Kirkburn | And nerd girlfriends if you're lucky :P |
| 00:43.31 | Guillotine | that's heracy! |
| 00:43.48 | weab | you could save like a month and a half's worth of subscription fees by not getting CE! such a waste! |
| 00:44.01 | Kirkburn | We're paying money to access a game, no less. We own bugger all :) |
| 00:44.12 | Osagasu | Free as in "Birthday pressie!" |
| 00:45.13 | Kirkburn | Aargh as in "That's soooo unfair!" |
| 00:45.29 | Osagasu | =D |
| 00:45.35 | Osagasu | <3 |
| 00:45.35 | ckknight | Kirkburn, it's regarding the point scale of 1-10 |
| 00:45.46 | ckknight | like "she's a 10" |
| 00:45.47 | ckknight | and such |
| 00:45.57 | Osagasu | AND I have FFXII preordered! =D |
| 00:46.11 | Kirkburn | I joined the "Real women have curves" group of facebook earlier, wasn't thinking that other way :) |
| 00:46.46 | [floyd] | Could someone point me in the right direction: Where can I find formulas for stats? |
| 00:47.00 | Osagasu | Thott has some. |
| 00:47.04 | Thunder_Child | wowwiki |
| 00:47.10 | ckknight | real women have eating disorders ;-) |
| 00:47.12 | Kirkburn | (social activism at work, that's me) |
| 00:47.20 | ckknight | otherwise they're not trying hard enough. |
| 00:47.25 | Osagasu | Real Woman play WoW. |
| 00:47.47 | Thunder_Child | floyd, http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Formulas_and_Game_Mechanics |
| 00:47.55 | Kirkburn | phew, Osagasu saved me from awkward silence :P |
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| 00:48.20 | [floyd] | Thunder_Child: That looks fairly complete, thanks. |
| 00:48.28 | Thunder_Child | Your Welcome |
| 00:52.44 | Osagasu | No problem, Kirk. |
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| 00:54.24 | Kirkburn | (I invited my girlfriend to the 'real women have curves' group earlier. I'm hoping she doesn't take offence at it! I, er, then invited her to the "Ben and Jerry's appreciation society". I think that might not help ... |
| 00:54.37 | Kirkburn | (Facebook ftw) |
| 00:56.18 | Cairenn | and I'm loving every minute of eating dis order of back ribs, too |
| 00:56.48 | Thunder_Child | *GROAN* |
| 00:57.08 | Kirkburn | Shoot me. Shoot me now. |
| 00:57.14 | Guillotine | ~shoot Kirkburn |
| 00:57.16 | purl | ACTION shoots Kirkburn in the head with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 00:57.28 | Cairenn | *licks her fingers* |
| 00:57.29 | Thunder_Child | ~larp Cairenn |
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| 00:57.37 | Kirkburn | That was stone cold ... |
| 00:57.54 | Guillotine | whats larp? |
| 00:58.06 | Thunder_Child | thas me messing up i think |
| 00:58.08 | Kirkburn | It's when someone forgets to spellcheck :) |
| 00:58.09 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: it's larT |
| 00:58.14 | hugo | Prat is controlable only by slash commands right ? |
| 00:58.19 | Kirkburn | Or Fubar |
| 00:58.20 | Guillotine | Loser Attitude Readjustment Tool |
| 00:58.22 | Guillotine | LART |
| 00:59.01 | Thunder_Child | no, LUSER |
| 00:59.12 | Cairenn | come on, you can't deny it, that was excellent |
| 00:59.27 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki luser |
| 00:59.43 | Kirkburn | I canna do it! |
| 01:01.29 | hugo | i dont get Fubar at all i tried dl it with like 20modules |
| 01:01.40 | hugo | geting like 50erros in error frame when i login |
| 01:01.46 | Kirkburn | From where? |
| 01:01.47 | hugo | wants tons of libraries ;? |
| 01:02.00 | hugo | from winaceupdater |
| 01:02.13 | Kirkburn | Yeah, make sure you do update with externals |
| 01:02.15 | hugo | theres no depencie mising |
| 01:02.36 | hugo | yes F12 is with externals |
| 01:02.41 | hugo | ;x |
| 01:02.44 | Kirkburn | Oh, and I'd set the option to 'delete folders before update' to on |
| 01:02.53 | hugo | winaceupdate |
| 01:02.56 | Kirkburn | I have about 20 plugins for Fubar, no problem |
| 01:03.00 | hugo | ops clipboard, sorry |
| 01:03.05 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 01:03.10 | hugo | it's set on really |
| 01:03.32 | Kirkburn | Well that's odd, and it shouldn't occur |
| 01:03.44 | hugo | each the module has directory Libs |
| 01:03.48 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 01:03.49 | hugo | or libs |
| 01:03.55 | hugo | some upercase L some lowercase |
| 01:04.10 | hugo | and some is Libs and some "lib" |
| 01:04.12 | Kirkburn | Shouldn't make a difference on Windows |
| 01:04.17 | hugo | missing s |
| 01:04.39 | hugo | i try disable the "lib" one's |
| 01:04.54 | Kirkburn | Yeah, it should be libs |
| 01:05.34 | Kirkburn | Which is the 'lib' one? |
| 01:05.48 | hugo | i tried fubar it selft |
| 01:05.53 | hugo | without any module and it's error |
| 01:06.32 | Kirkburn | Do you have an Ace libraries folder in the AddOns directory? |
| 01:06.35 | hugo | FuBar_ToFu FuBar_QuestsFu these two are "lib" |
| 01:06.48 | hugo | and FuBar_CombatTimeFu don't have any libs |
| 01:06.57 | hugo | I don't |
| 01:07.00 | Kirkburn | (I confirm QuestFu, works fine for me as-is though) |
| 01:07.05 | hugo | i need these ? ;-p |
| 01:07.09 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 01:07.27 | hugo | can't run fubar selft seems like conflict |
| 01:07.30 | Kirkburn | Have you tried but Fubar on it's own *without any other addons?* |
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| 01:07.39 | hugo | cause when i activate fubar Gmail and bigwings giving me errors |
| 01:07.48 | hugo | yes just now |
| 01:08.13 | Kirkburn | And even that errors? |
| 01:08.41 | hugo | method conflicts in atempot to mixin field hook |
| 01:08.50 | hugo | in AceOO |
| 01:09.16 | hugo | and bigwings give infinite error, in acehook.lua |
| 01:09.40 | hugo | and gmail return infinite too |
| 01:10.04 | hugo | its long lines, but i can't copy it from the error frame so just wriitng in shorts :D |
| 01:10.10 | Tain | You just can't trust those Ace people. |
| 01:10.12 | hugo | i try now disable gmail and bigwing |
| 01:10.13 | Kirkburn | Hmm, loaded just Fubar and !ClearFont ... no errors for me (and I did WinAceUpdater like an hour ago) |
| 01:10.18 | Thunder_Child | hugo are you in beta wow? |
| 01:10.19 | hugo | to test |
| 01:10.26 | Thunder_Child | BC beta* |
| 01:10.28 | hugo | Thunder_Child no :| but i wanted |
| 01:10.48 | hugo | Kirkburn try bigwings or gmail |
| 01:10.53 | hugo | wait a sec i try turn em off, brb ;) |
| 01:10.56 | Thunder_Child | just cheking, errors could have come from that |
| 01:11.11 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I'd rather not install more addons please :P |
| 01:11.36 | hugo | ok now |
| 01:11.40 | hugo | i got only one error :D |
| 01:11.44 | Kirkburn | I'm pretty much certain the fault doesn't lie with Fubar then |
| 01:11.44 | hugo | going better |
| 01:12.04 | ckknight | hugo, what's the bug? |
| 01:12.06 | ckknight | I'm here now |
| 01:12.15 | ckknight | and tend to be the author of the things you are describing |
| 01:12.35 | ckknight | FuBar at least |
| 01:12.39 | Kirkburn | So modest :) |
| 01:12.40 | ckknight | and Ace2 libs |
| 01:12.46 | hugo | AceOO2.0 library "Fubarplugin-2.0" does not exist addon prat_fubar2 prat_fubar2.lua |
| 01:12.47 | hugo | this is it |
| 01:12.51 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 01:12.52 | hugo | it's the prat addon :D |
| 01:12.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:12.56 | hugo | i fogot to turn it off |
| 01:13.00 | ckknight | yea, it's prat's fault. |
| 01:13.09 | Tain | Stupid prat. |
| 01:13.13 | hugo | :( |
| 01:13.17 | Kirkburn | Prat. |
| 01:13.34 | hugo | what do i do now ? ;o |
| 01:13.41 | ckknight | dance the dance of life! |
| 01:13.41 | hugo | where i can get that fubarplugin |
| 01:13.47 | Kirkburn | Hope that someone fixxxors prat :) |
| 01:13.55 | ckknight | tell the #wowace chan. |
| 01:14.15 | hugo | hmm i don't get it :( |
| 01:14.24 | hugo | it says.. library "Fubarplugin-2.0" does not exist addon prat_fubar2 prat_fubar2.lua |
| 01:14.34 | hugo | but i have Prat_FuBar2\libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua" |
| 01:14.40 | hugo | it's there so what's wrong ? |
| 01:14.43 | Kirkburn | By Jove! You're right! |
| 01:14.48 | Kirkburn | Someone broke prat :/ |
| 01:15.01 | hugo | sorry im just player im noob about lua... |
| 01:15.06 | hugo | just trying to get it work.. |
| 01:15.10 | Xuerian | old idchat2 ftw :P |
| 01:15.18 | ckknight | hugo, is it in the toc? |
| 01:15.53 | hugo | libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua |
| 01:15.53 | hugo | in toc |
| 01:15.53 | hugo | at end |
| 01:15.53 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:15.54 | ckknight | at the very end? |
| 01:16.05 | hugo | yes |
| 01:16.09 | ckknight | that's bad. |
| 01:16.15 | ckknight | it should be before the core file. |
| 01:16.19 | hugo | .lua |
| 01:16.20 | hugo | .tgx |
| 01:16.23 | hugo | space |
| 01:16.23 | Kirkburn | Prat itself has been updated recently, whilst Prat_Fubar hasn't so much |
| 01:16.26 | ckknight | and before the locals |
| 01:16.26 | hugo | and then lib ;) |
| 01:16.48 | hugo | so i put it before the .lua in the toc file ? |
| 01:17.19 | ckknight | yes. |
| 01:17.19 | Kirkburn | Try without Prat_Fubar2 and just use the /slash options for now is my recommendation |
| 01:17.32 | Kirkburn | Prat_Fubar hasn't been updated since the 2nd :/ |
| 01:18.15 | hugo | im so lost at slash commands you know :-P |
| 01:18.29 | Kirkburn | Just type /prat, and it should explain everything :) |
| 01:19.22 | Kirkburn | Xuerian, idChat is soooo old hat :P |
| 01:19.34 | Kirkburn | Sorry, I meant ... |
| 01:19.39 | Xuerian | Haha, old, yes, but works just as well XD |
| 01:19.42 | hugo | lol ckknight it worked, but now it says error "Fubarplugin2.0 requires tablets2.0" ..... |
| 01:19.42 | Kirkburn | Xuerian, idChat is soooo old Prat :P |
| 01:19.46 | Cairenn | anyone else see a little problem with this thread? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=39304009&sid=1 |
| 01:20.01 | hugo | < shoot himselft |
| 01:20.22 | Guillotine | that is SO obviously a key logger. or most likely at least |
| 01:20.25 | Kirkburn | Prat_Fubar2 appears to be missing dependencies, as far as I can tell |
| 01:20.33 | Guillotine | the guy doesn't speak english, says hes linking somewhere other than whree he is |
| 01:20.39 | ckknight | hugo, okay, then make sure that Tablet comes before FBP-2.0 |
| 01:20.58 | hugo | problem is there isnt any tablet |
| 01:20.59 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, that's just *bad* |
| 01:21.13 | ckknight | hugo, who's the author? |
| 01:21.17 | Kirkburn | I can imagine if Rushster got wind of it, he'd be seething |
| 01:21.18 | Guillotine | plus he specifically says 'the UI is safe'. that has to be a bad sign |
| 01:21.18 | Cairenn | well, he says ui.wow.net, but he links to somewhere else? gimme a break |
| 01:21.40 | Cairenn | oh, I think Rushster will get wind of it, since I'm about to point him to it |
| 01:21.40 | Kirkburn | Seething would probably be a mild way of putting it |
| 01:21.48 | hugo | ckknight in changelog it says krtek 3x and last time kergoth |
| 01:22.02 | Kirkburn | Good idea Cairenn :) |
| 01:22.05 | Thunder_Child | primary website is asian |
| 01:22.11 | Cairenn | and I'm also reporting it |
| 01:23.00 | Kirkburn | The links don't even work |
| 01:23.13 | Cairenn | he's subsequently posted a second thread |
| 01:23.22 | hugo | ok added tabled manually from diff addon goin test :D |
| 01:24.21 | hugo | ddn't worked, ok i delete it and use slash commands :D |
| 01:24.48 | Kirkburn | Those links don't work either |
| 01:25.17 | Kirkburn | What fun |
| 01:25.34 | Kirkburn | Or perhaps ... What a failure at life |
| 01:25.44 | Cairenn | PM'd rushster, reported the post |
| 01:26.23 | Cairenn | if the guy is genuine, then I'll feel bad |
| 01:26.29 | Cairenn | but it just smells wrong to me |
| 01:27.02 | ckknight | doesn't feel righ |
| 01:27.04 | ckknight | t |
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| 01:27.16 | Kirkburn | It'd be nice to have a look at what's he's attempting to foist on our impressionable minds |
| 01:27.24 | Thunder_Child | the rar file has nithing but an exe and a prk file |
| 01:27.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:27.36 | Kirkburn | Hmm, how come I can't dl that |
| 01:27.48 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, worked for me just fine |
| 01:28.00 | Cairenn | looks like someone else just reported the second thread by him |
| 01:28.07 | Guillotine | I had |
| 01:28.12 | Cairenn | thanks Guillotine |
| 01:28.43 | Guillotine | how can you tell it was reported? |
| 01:28.57 | Kirkburn | Lack of report post button |
| 01:29.04 | Cairenn | button grey's out |
| 01:29.09 | Guillotine | ahh. cool |
| 01:29.11 | Kirkburn | or that :P |
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| 01:29.30 | GeoDaMancer | Wow, long time no see ye peoples. |
| 01:29.30 | Kirkburn | And he even had to drag two addon's names through the gutter too |
| 01:29.48 | Kirkburn | Yo, yo, yo! You Da Mancer! |
| 01:30.02 | GeoDaMancer | Hey, Kirk. |
| 01:30.33 | Cairenn | three, in the first post |
| 01:30.54 | Guillotine | ~lart Kirkburn |
| 01:30.55 | GeoDaMancer | Anyone who knoes anything about Cosmos and the Thottbot addons alive that I can bug? xD |
| 01:31.12 | Guillotine | please rewrite that in English >< |
| 01:31.15 | Kirkburn | Four, even! |
| 01:31.15 | Guillotine | I didn't understand it at all |
| 01:31.32 | GeoDaMancer | knows^ xD |
| 01:31.36 | Guillotine | oh, I see |
| 01:31.53 | Guillotine | Anduin would probably be best, but I'm not sure if hes afk. if he is, I'm on the cosmos team too |
| 01:32.04 | Kirkburn | AL knows it. Clart. (You have to be welsh to 'get' that one) |
| 01:32.20 | Osagasu | ~lart cairenn |
| 01:32.24 | hugo | ckknight hmm seems its fubar selft, cause now when i deleted the prat_fu, i re-enabled Bigwings and Gmail and now i got the infinite errors againt, with only Fubar selft enabled bigwings and gmail gives me infinite error |
| 01:33.04 | GeoDaMancer | Well, I have a problem on one of my characters that when I log into him, it comes up with: table index is null on ThottbotEngine.lua, line 1. |
| 01:33.25 | hugo | if i disable fubar all is fine |
| 01:33.27 | Guillotine | are you using the newest version of cosmos? |
| 01:33.35 | GeoDaMancer | Just installed it again, and yes. |
| 01:41.06 | ckknight | hugo, what's the error? |
| 01:42.45 | Guillotine | is there an ascii code for a new line? |
| 01:43.11 | ckknight | looking at the formulas and observed results, it seems as if WoW uses banker's rounding instead of the "normal" asymmetric rounding |
| 01:43.34 | hugo | ckknight 4 errors |
| 01:44.11 | hugo | attempt to index nil value, bigwings, count:infinite line537 acehook2.1.lua |
| 01:44.25 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:44.29 | ckknight | that's the very first? |
| 01:44.40 | hugo | yes i write second now |
| 01:45.03 | hugo | AceOO-2.0 cannot explicity inherit from the same mixin twice count:20 |
| 01:45.19 | hugo | attempt to index nil value, bigwings, count:infinite line242 acehook2.1.lua |
| 01:45.34 | ckknight | only the first is important |
| 01:45.36 | hugo | atempt to index global 'Gmail' (a nil value) |
| 01:45.39 | hugo | oh ok |
| 01:45.50 | ckknight | okay, open up the AceHook-2.1.lua file and tell me the revision number at the top |
| 01:46.10 | ckknight | it'll look like Revision: $Rev: 12345 $ |
| 01:46.11 | hugo | in the Bigwings or Fubar ? |
| 01:46.23 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 01:46.27 | ckknight | make sure they're the same |
| 01:46.39 | ckknight | tell me bigwigs' |
| 01:46.43 | hugo | bigwings > Revision: $Rev: 15048 $ |
| 01:46.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:47.05 | hugo | fubar > Revision: $Rev: 14013 $ |
| 01:47.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:47.29 | ckknight | well, do me a favor and replace FuBar's version with BigWigs' |
| 01:47.33 | hugo | gmail Revision: $Rev: 14013 $ |
| 01:48.01 | hugo | you mean copy the acehook.lua from bigwings to fubar ? |
| 01:49.31 | hugo | cool it worked |
| 01:49.38 | hugo | thanks for help ckknight you the man :) |
| 01:49.43 | hugo | all works now ;> |
| 01:49.47 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:50.08 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:50.19 | ckknight | yea, there were bugs in the old version |
| 01:51.01 | End | so I finally broke down an installed fubar |
| 01:51.24 | End | I don't like the look and feel of some things in fubur, but everything is -very- configurable |
| 01:52.06 | Cairenn | anyone buy his answer? |
| 01:52.10 | hugo | no |
| 01:52.20 | hugo | you can make it totaly transparent and turn off whatever |
| 01:52.25 | hugo | so it's senseless ;d |
| 01:52.38 | Cairenn | (re the thread I was talking about earlier, sorry for any confusion I just created) |
| 01:52.52 | hugo | héhé |
| 01:53.19 | hugo | too bad lua is so hard ;x |
| 01:53.20 | ckknight | End, there are skins if you want. |
| 01:53.27 | ckknight | FuTextures |
| 01:53.40 | ckknight | Cairenn, link me? |
| 01:54.01 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=39304009&sid=1 or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=39304014&sid=1 |
| 01:54.07 | hugo | i want bantender to have functions like baroptions ;x |
| 01:54.18 | End | ckknight: I noticed it had a "texture" option, but all that is available right now is "default" |
| 01:54.23 | End | but I will install FuTextures |
| 01:54.30 | ckknight | lua's easy |
| 01:54.41 | ckknight | End, yea, textures are big, so they don't ship with FuBar proper |
| 01:54.59 | hugo | all the addons are nice, but im too use to some old features.. so need like add tiny func to this addon, tiny func to that addon |
| 01:55.30 | hugo | and you know 1000peoples post request so the author not always pick your's :) so would rather doit myselft but im too confused from all the how-to :P |
| 01:56.20 | Kirkburn | "I have used it before,is is avaliable.I reship it from other wensite. " |
| 01:56.30 | Kirkburn | What's a wensite? |
| 01:56.38 | ckknight | like a website |
| 01:56.40 | ckknight | only in Engrish |
| 01:56.53 | ckknight | hugo, nah, lua's easy. I picked it up rather quickly |
| 01:57.00 | Cairenn | I have no problem with someone whose native language isn't English |
| 01:57.04 | ckknight | hugo, and FuBar was my first project ;-) |
| 01:57.14 | hugo | but you did know some other scripting languag before didnt you :) |
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| 01:57.23 | Guillotine | " Your server is *painfully* slow. Maybe host these at curse or one of the other major sites?" I almost feel sorry for that person :( Their about to lose their account |
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| 01:57.28 | hugo | well then gg, pretty popular one :) |
| 01:57.31 | ckknight | hugo, yea, lua's like my 20th language |
| 01:57.38 | Kirkburn | He's such a genius. He can't even tell the difference between the addon intro text and the name of the addon :/ |
| 01:57.47 | Guillotine | my native language is VB |
| 01:57.53 | hugo | :) i know only 1language and it's totally useless one.. mirc scripting............. |
| 01:57.55 | ckknight | Cairenn, but those goobacks took our jerbs! |
| 01:57.58 | Cairenn | I *do* have a problem with someone dragging good names through the mud while trying to distribute malware |
| 01:57.58 | weab | Guillotine: i'm sorry |
| 01:58.00 | ckknight | ;-) |
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| 01:58.24 | ckknight | hugo, hey, I learned mIRC scripting ... like 7 years ago |
| 01:58.32 | Kirkburn | Cairenn, at leats he seems incapable of writing the names of most of the addons he goes for |
| 01:58.55 | Kirkburn | (he updated this one with a list: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=39304009&sid=1) |
| 01:59.20 | hugo | me too, but only that, nothing else.. i learn best from examples.. but can't find good "example" addons anywhere only big complex one's and the how-to's for lua, i get lost there big time ;d |
| 01:59.40 | Guillotine | hugo: look at my addons. the ones except Panda are rather simple |
| 01:59.51 | ckknight | hugo, wowace has tutorials and Ace2 is fully documented with examples. |
| 02:00.21 | hugo | where examples ? need :) |
| 02:00.47 | hugo | Guillotine i can't find you at http://wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons_by_Author |
| 02:01.12 | Guillotine | oh. ace |
| 02:01.14 | Guillotine | ignore me |
| 02:01.14 | hugo | where are you hiding |
| 02:01.24 | ckknight | hehe, Guillotine |
| 02:01.48 | hugo | well i want just learn make addons , don't matter if its ace or not, but as i see it so far the ace system help you faster your work like.. alot ? |
| 02:02.04 | Guillotine | eventually. but I would suggest learning the basics first |
| 02:02.24 | hugo | where are some examples Guillotine ?;o |
| 02:02.49 | hugo | ckknight you said there are some examples to ace too, im so lost in wiki :D |
| 02:03.01 | hugo | tut's |
| 02:03.04 | ckknight | lemme get you a tutorial |
| 02:03.14 | Guillotine | hugo: have you programmed before? do you know what hooking and such is? |
| 02:03.15 | hugo | but it's for the use with ace system right |
| 02:03.28 | ckknight | http://wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 02:03.29 | hugo | i know only mirc scripting |
| 02:03.29 | Kirkburn | Stupid 'expert' comment of the day: ""People use mobile phones without thinking what the consequences may be. It's just like using a toothbrush - but mobiles could be having a devastating effect on fertility." |
| 02:03.34 | ckknight | http://wowace.com/wiki/Category:Tutorials |
| 02:03.44 | hugo | i know like aliases, variables, if then else while etc etc ;d |
| 02:03.58 | Kirkburn | Do *YOU* use a toothbrush without thinking what the consequences may be? Do ya? Do ya?! |
| 02:04.07 | ckknight | oh my god. |
| 02:04.13 | ckknight | my teeth are plotting against my penis! |
| 02:04.18 | hugo | thanks ckknight |
| 02:04.19 | Guillotine | o.O |
| 02:04.21 | Guillotine | that was random |
| 02:04.27 | Kirkburn | (http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=35805) |
| 02:04.29 | ckknight | Guillotine, response to Kaelten |
| 02:04.32 | ckknight | err |
| 02:04.33 | ckknight | Kirkburn, |
| 02:04.40 | ckknight | not Kael |
| 02:04.59 | Guillotine | I know |
| 02:05.07 | Guillotine | but where you got the 'penis' idea from, I don't know |
| 02:05.29 | Kaelten | um... I'm confused |
| 02:05.31 | ckknight | but mobiles could be having a devastating effect on fertility." |
| 02:05.37 | ckknight | sorry, Kaelten, mis-tabbed |
| 02:05.43 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:05.46 | Kirkburn | Haha, the comments on that story are great :D |
| 02:06.00 | Guillotine | hugo: if you want to see a VERY simple addon, check out http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1250-1-leeroy.html . It's useless, but great for learning the very basics :) |
| 02:06.07 | Kirkburn | (especially #6 and #6.1) |
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| 02:10.18 | hugo | ok thanks ;] |
| 02:10.25 | AnduinLothar | i was poked |
| 02:10.30 | ckknight | hugo, I recommend the WelcomeHome tutorial |
| 02:10.46 | hugo | Your first Ace2 Addon |
| 02:10.52 | hugo | yes im reading it now thanks ] |
| 02:10.58 | ckknight | it's quite nice |
| 02:12.38 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: geomancer had been having a problem with cosmos earlier |
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| 02:13.57 | hugo | cosmos and ace should split ;p |
| 02:14.13 | ckknight | split? |
| 02:14.16 | ckknight | it already is split |
| 02:14.26 | hugo | i use cosmos |
| 02:14.30 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:14.32 | ckknight | stop that. |
| 02:14.34 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:14.44 | hugo | im too used to it ;d |
| 02:14.51 | ckknight | I like Ace |
| 02:14.55 | ckknight | it suits me fine |
| 02:14.57 | hugo | it has addons that noone have |
| 02:15.01 | hugo | cant play without |
| 02:15.01 | ckknight | example? |
| 02:15.07 | hugo | baroptions |
| 02:15.12 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 02:15.22 | Tain | Well you can order a drink on the rocks, or neat. |
| 02:15.23 | hugo | good for keyboard players |
| 02:15.25 | Tain | Those are baroptions. |
| 02:15.38 | hugo | basically |
| 02:15.43 | Kirkburn | Look at me! I use both! I must be keeerrraaazzzzeeeeee :D |
| 02:15.50 | ckknight | must be. |
| 02:15.54 | hugo | it allow me to turn page and group pages of bar1+bar2 |
| 02:16.18 | Kirkburn | Party Quests is my 'must-have', btw |
| 02:16.18 | ckknight | meh, Bartender suits me fine |
| 02:16.19 | hugo | so i have lie 3 bars with 24icons |
| 02:16.24 | hugo | when i switch pages |
| 02:16.30 | hugo | instead 6bars with 12icons |
| 02:16.42 | hugo | yes |
| 02:17.00 | hugo | i like cosmos, and the cosmos.exe after patch day and all works, excellent |
| 02:17.11 | hugo | i just want some better "look" so tweaking up with ace ;) |
| 02:17.16 | ckknight | Party Quests is cool |
| 02:17.26 | hugo | like i wanted use bartender |
| 02:17.27 | Gryphen | O,o |
| 02:17.27 | ckknight | I don't use it, but I helped AnduinLothar bugtest it once |
| 02:17.32 | ckknight | very nice, imo |
| 02:17.33 | hugo | but it can't do what baroptions can |
| 02:17.44 | hugo | PQ is cool yeah |
| 02:17.56 | ckknight | ~wowace |
| 02:17.58 | purl | no clue, ckknight |
| 02:18.03 | Tain | PoliceQuest? I loved that game! |
| 02:18.03 | ckknight | odd |
| 02:18.40 | End | heh |
| 02:19.09 | Cairenn | ROFLMAO, stupid moron just posted his keylogger threads on wowi! |
| 02:19.14 | Cairenn | hi, welcome to "BAN" |
| 02:20.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:20.04 | ckknight | stick it to him, Cairenn |
| 02:20.06 | Thunder_Child | why Cairenn, i do belive you are enjoying yourself |
| 02:20.24 | hugo | ;x |
| 02:20.35 | Cairenn | what a moron |
| 02:20.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:23.30 | hugo | ckknight about the baroptions thing |
| 02:23.43 | hugo | baroptions allow me to control 72icons via keyboard bindings ;d > all |
| 02:23.54 | ckknight | how so? |
| 02:24.33 | hugo | well as i said you got two 12icon bars split as one 24icon bar |
| 02:24.55 | hugo | and you got 3x these big bar, witch you can page using shift +uparrow or shift + downarrow |
| 02:25.17 | hugo | so when you use 6buttons on keybord, and ctrl+ shift+ you control 18icons ok |
| 02:25.29 | hugo | with the page switch its 54icons just by 6buttons |
| 02:25.41 | hugo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.56 | hugo | i control all by keyboard.. mouse just look or target ;d |
| 02:27.12 | ckknight | here's how I play: |
| 02:27.21 | ckknight | I have about 6-12 main buttons |
| 02:27.27 | ckknight | everything else is handled through click-casting |
| 02:27.35 | ckknight | I like it |
| 02:27.44 | hugo | in my poor english you have 6bars.. shift+uparrow changes bar1,2 to 3,4 and then to 5,6 and then back to 1,2 and shit down arrow does clockwise |
| 02:27.55 | hugo | and i really can't play without it anymore :) it's a comfort. |
| 02:28.17 | hugo | shaman use so much icons ;d |
| 02:28.18 | ckknight | what class? |
| 02:28.21 | ckknight | ah. |
| 02:28.25 | Guillotine | g2g all. ttyl :) |
| 02:28.32 | Thunder_Child | laters Guillotine |
| 02:28.41 | hugo | cya Guillotine and happy updating ;] |
| 02:29.14 | hugo | ckknight and now here im stuck cause i can't play without baroption but missing some eyecandy stuff like from bartender |
| 02:29.21 | Kirkburn | Hah, warlocks are worst-off I assure you |
| 02:29.55 | ckknight | hugo, make a request to the bartender people to steal all the baroptions features :-P |
| 02:29.56 | hugo | well my keyboard playstyle is very advantage for any class |
| 02:30.05 | hugo | control any skill any time manually > all addons |
| 02:30.22 | Kirkburn | "Well done on reaching level 70, here have a 53rd unique spell!" |
| 02:30.26 | hugo | if you can react and have reflex its best for pvp to do manually ;] |
| 02:30.44 | hugo | lol Kirkburn :) |
| 02:30.59 | Kirkburn | "Why thank you kind sir, might you be able to supply some more actionbar slots with that?" |
| 02:31.04 | hugo | ckknight i did already :P but i will be forgoten in the thread anyway "P |
| 02:31.08 | Kirkburn | "No. But I can offer you some cheese?" |
| 02:31.35 | Kirkburn | "Wensleydale?" |
| 02:31.44 | hugo | also Khaos in cosmos is very nice think :) |
| 02:31.49 | Kirkburn | "Sorry, no Wensleydale" |
| 02:31.58 | ckknight | what's Khaos do, again? |
| 02:32.13 | hugo | its inteface for whole cosmos and all its addons |
| 02:32.30 | hugo | on left you click on addon name and on right you config it ;o in a nice scrollable window |
| 02:32.33 | Kirkburn | "Oh, okay. Good day to you, kind sir" /me casts shadowbolt, death coil and about 13 different curses on Kind Sir |
| 02:33.19 | hugo | and each addon has also check button, that does something like in ace /aceaddon standby |
| 02:33.44 | hugo | for me best would be like khaos+ace lol :d |
| 02:34.31 | hugo | but im just a playour bugning here on your developer channel and spaming so don't read all i say :P |
| 02:34.58 | Kirkburn | (well *I* enjoyed my lovely non-sequitur, so mneh!) |
| 02:35.11 | hugo | im so bored of naxxramas ... waiting for BC. testing all addons that exist... to spend time and playin with my ui ;o |
| 02:35.35 | hugo | Kirkburn sorry that i broken your story ;O |
| 02:35.58 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 02:36.08 | hugo | warlock ftw? |
| 02:36.17 | hugo | Kirkburn are you RP? |
| 02:36.25 | Kirkburn | I think about it often |
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| 02:36.53 | Kirkburn | But no, not yet |
| 02:37.10 | hugo | only good for you :) |
| 02:37.16 | Kirkburn | Very much into the lore though, been meaning to buy the books for ages now |
| 02:38.14 | hugo | yes lore is awensome, but personally i don't get RP servers, for me it's like - play to play- play a game inside a game.. or how to say it in english |
| 02:38.18 | Kirkburn | Attempting to explain who the Old Gods were, then the Titans, then the naaru then Tempest Keep then the draenei then the location of Quel'thalas, then the titans again to my housemate is ... fun |
| 02:38.50 | hugo | ;] |
| 02:39.25 | hugo | and at all i want see a RP kill of loatheb. |
| 02:40.02 | Kirkburn | I quite enjoyed playing D&D at school, but I think an RP server might be too much for me |
| 02:40.09 | hugo | can't imagine it.. now with all the addons and numbers flying around, timing for every your step.. 10angry persons on ventrilo yelling ;d |
| 02:40.10 | Kirkburn | I should try it out |
| 02:40.34 | Kirkburn | Oh, don't think for a moment that RP is everywhere on RP servers :) |
| 02:40.47 | hugo | well it shouold be :) |
| 02:40.52 | hugo | should* |
| 02:41.20 | ckknight | I like RP, cause people don't have shitty names |
| 02:41.43 | hugo | Now i step forward, my brave warrior, kneel and hear by blessings..... |
| 02:41.47 | hugo | "Your target is dead" |
| 02:41.50 | hugo | !! :D |
| 02:42.07 | Kirkburn | Ye-es, not quite =) |
| 02:42.21 | hugo | i just can't imagine it with the current encounter difficutly blizzard set up |
| 02:42.33 | hugo | let's see if the BC smaller dungeons change it |
| 02:42.50 | Kirkburn | Not that I've experienced it, but the RP is more along the lines of how the characters act, not what they do :) |
| 02:43.15 | Kirkburn | Yup, what I just said definately wasn't a contradiction |
| 02:43.21 | hugo | i play 2years and each new dungeon the raiding become like flying in Apollo to moon then playing a game |
| 02:44.22 | hugo | server down, can't test any more addons :( |
| 02:44.23 | Kirkburn | You have to make air filters out of cardboard a tube and a couple of wire? |
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| 02:44.49 | Kirkburn | I think I should head to bed |
| 02:44.55 | Kirkburn | Goodnight one and all! |
| 02:44.58 | hugo | good idea :] |
| 02:45.05 | hugo | and yes something like that |
| 02:45.11 | hugo | good night |
| 02:45.37 | Cairenn | night hugo |
| 02:45.47 | Cairenn | errr, Kirkburn |
| 02:45.48 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 02:45.59 | hugo | im still here :P |
| 02:46.04 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 02:46.28 | Kirkburn | Enjoy your book Cairenn :P Night night! |
| 02:46.29 | hugo | what's a book? i forgot it's existence since internet was found :( |
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| 02:47.27 | Cairenn | hugo: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5747 |
| 02:47.52 | Shadowed | Quick question, for 1.13 will it be implementing the spell/targetting restrictions? |
| 02:48.07 | Vallerius | is there an event that gets fired when a party/raid unit changes target? can't find an obvious one on wowwiki |
| 02:48.18 | hugo | Cairenn :)) |
| 02:48.30 | Cairenn | heh, read it, it's funny |
| 02:48.34 | ckknight | cute, however lame |
| 02:48.36 | Shadowed | Vallerius: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:48.59 | hugo | oh noes, what restrictions Shadowed ? |
| 02:49.12 | Shadowed | hugo: see UI & macros forum on blizzard site |
| 02:49.16 | hugo | thought it will be in bc only |
| 02:49.20 | ckknight | Shadowed, didn'theysay there wouldn't be a real 1.13? |
| 02:49.45 | Vallerius | shadowed: whenever a raid member changes target, i want to know who they're targetting. then i can associate the enemy flag carrier with raid13target, for example |
| 02:49.47 | Shadowed | not sure, I havn't really heard much except blizzards releasing a bunch of TBC content early |
| 02:50.04 | Shadowed | Vallerius: I don't think you can, i'm not sure why you would want to do that though. Are you trying to get enemy carrier health? |
| 02:50.11 | Vallerius | yessir |
| 02:50.16 | Tem | from what I understand, they're going to patch in everything except the level cap increase and the opening of the dark portal |
| 02:50.28 | Tem | oh, and probably not the new races |
| 02:50.30 | hugo | Shadowed can't find any 1.13 topic in that section |
| 02:51.02 | Shadowed | brb PW |
| 02:51.09 | Shadowed | sec Vallerius! |
| 02:51.49 | Shadowed | Tem did they give a date? |
| 02:52.25 | Vallerius | Shadowed: I know, i can use focus... not sure if all users will want me hijacking that though |
| 02:52.39 | ckknight | there won't be 1.13, it'll be 2.0.0, and then release TBC afterwards, which'll also be 2.0.0, afaik |
| 02:53.19 | Tem | 2.0.0 is what they're burning onto the disks that you'll buy |
| 02:53.36 | Tem | when you install the game and attempt to log in the first time, you'll patch to 2.0.1 |
| 02:54.15 | hugo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.15 | hugo | The 1.13 content was carried over BC. |
| 02:54.19 | hugo | from a blue post |
| 02:55.05 | hugo | However, there will be a content patch before the expansion. It will simply not be called 1.13, which would be a continutation of content patches for WoW, pre-expansion. The content patch will be for the expansion, which will likely be dubbed 2.0. |
| 02:55.54 | Tain | There will be a patch before the expansion however. |
| 02:55.56 | hugo | so no changes until bc |
| 02:57.23 | ckknight | no, hugo |
| 02:57.27 | ckknight | you misinterpreted |
| 02:57.45 | Tain | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38233956&pageNo=4&sid=1#71 |
| 02:57.50 | hugo | this was two blue posts |
| 02:58.04 | hugo | and what means misinterpreted |
| 02:58.06 | hugo | :O |
| 02:58.19 | hugo | that i read it wrong? |
| 02:58.22 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:58.35 | hugo | cause it's prety tricky post ;d |
| 02:58.51 | Tain | "With the delay of the game, we'll be patching prior to its release. |
| 02:58.52 | Shadowed | anyway |
| 02:59.05 | Shadowed | Have they given some sort of release yet on whatever the next patch with TBC content is? |
| 02:59.45 | Shadowed | Vallerius: As far as i know, you can't set focus target through the API, I wouldn't suggest doing a carrier health stuff since in general it's not accurate and the people it will help are on the other side of the base and out of range of seeing those peopels target |
| 03:00.28 | Shadowed | peoples* |
| 03:02.13 | Shadowed | I suppose, you could make it send the carrier health data, but that would get somewhat spammy into the channel, and again, requires at least one person thats targetting him to run it ( since it wouldnt work for auto targetting in TBC ) |
| 03:02.26 | Vallerius | Shadowed: that's exactly what i'm doing |
| 03:02.52 | Vallerius | Shadowed: the use case i see is the dps in the enemy base burning down, and the friendly carrier judging when to hit the flagstand |
| 03:04.13 | Shadowed | I'm 99% sure you need to a scan OnUpdate to get there targets. But if you're trying to have the FFC scan the offence target, it wont work since he's OOR of them 90% of the time |
| 03:05.21 | ckknight | alright, off to class |
| 03:05.38 | Vallerius | Shadowed: unless a friendly, BFC-using player is in range :p |
| 03:06.17 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 03:06.35 | Shadowed | i was debating making something that spams raid chat when the carrier reaches % health and then says cancel if they go up :p |
| 03:09.03 | Vallerius | i'll have to play with it, if it's slow and clunky i'll dump the feature |
| 03:09.54 | Shadowed | let me know how it goes! |
| 03:10.22 | Vallerius | wait till you see some of the stuff i've got lined up for TBC :p |
| 03:10.29 | Shadowed | you're in beta? |
| 03:10.40 | Vallerius | no, but i have a couple of friends who are |
| 03:11.21 | Shadowed | i'll have to steal feature sthen |
| 03:11.23 | Shadowed | brb grobb! |
| 03:13.03 | Shadowed | k i'm dead, so anyway! I havn't seen any of the arena features yet, but i'm sure there will be some interesting stuff to do, mostly been working on moving SSPVP to modules so i can expand it for TBC easly |
| 03:13.57 | hugo | good night im off |
| 03:14.13 | Cairenn | night hugo |
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| 03:15.11 | Vallerius | Shadowed: i'm mostly working on stuff for the outdoor zones, haven't been in arenas yet |
| 03:15.35 | Vallerius | stuff like being able to see every capture bar that your raid has a guy near |
| 03:15.36 | Shadowed | arena's maybe kind of hard to add features to tbh |
| 03:17.10 | Shadowed | Are you using the GetCastingInfo ( or something close to that ) function, or do they have to be using the mod? |
| 03:28.36 | Vallerius | they have to be using the mod |
| 03:31.09 | Shadowed | was going to try and add that in for AB, but didn't want to touch the spell casting library |
| 03:35.07 | Vallerius | oh, i didn't mean the capture bars like for AB nodes. I meant capture bars like at the towers in EPL |
| 03:41.04 | Shadowed | ah those |
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| 04:00.50 | Esamynn | Ok, I have to share this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=39414030&sid=1 O_o |
| 04:04.08 | Osagasu | It's true. |
| 04:07.10 | Iriel | Ah, a thread for those who fail at math |
| 04:10.09 | SP|Sorren | i love those threads. |
| 04:11.01 | Tem | I think it relies on the 1/3 = .3333... and 1/3 * 3 = 1 |
| 04:11.06 | SP|Sorren | my favorite "proof" for why 0.99~ != 1 is that if you do 1 - 0.99~ you get 0.0~1. That's so great. I wonder who thought of that. |
| 04:11.07 | Tem | but that's just a guess |
| 04:11.51 | SP|Sorren | x = 0.99~ , 10x = 9.99~, 9x = 9, x = 1 :O |
| 04:12.43 | SP|Sorren | but your reason is another proof i think. |
| 04:14.22 | Iriel | 1/9 = 0.1111.. is pretty obvious too |
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| 04:47.11 | krka | yet another "i don't get how 0.999~ = 1" thread? |
| 04:47.22 | krka | there's been like 1000s of them |
| 04:47.31 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, it;s fun to read |
| 04:47.44 | Vallerius | it's a pretty classic troll topic |
| 04:48.38 | Thunder_Child | and pointless |
| 04:51.12 | Plorkyeran | The wikipedia article linked on that one was actually pretty interesting |
| 04:51.56 | Cairenn | oh good, someone *finally* deleted those keylogger threads |
| 04:52.12 | krka | heh, that wikipedia article is pretty cool |
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| 04:54.22 | krka | For example, one real analysis student was able to prove that 0.333… = 1/3 using a supremum definition, but then insisted that 0.999… < 1 based on her earlier understanding of long division.[17] |
| 04:54.27 | krka | lol |
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| 06:56.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:56.47 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 06:58.39 | Corrodias | i hate trying to play WoW when i'm tired |
| 06:58.48 | Corrodias | i fall asleep trying to travel on foot |
| 07:00.02 | ckknight | ah, I'll bbl, I have to work on something on my Linux partition :-P |
| 07:02.09 | Corrodias | arr |
| 07:07.41 | Corrodias | so it's kinda weird when you're almost asleep, you're running from sen'jin to razor hill, and the guy in the music is singing "this is the road to hell..." |
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| 07:08.11 | [floyd] | Irritating.... |
| 07:08.53 | Cairenn | night guys |
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| 07:23.58 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 07:26.18 | Corrodias | yo |
| 07:27.54 | [floyd] | How was it in the land of quad-colored consoles? |
| 07:31.28 | Tem | ~botmail for Mikk I was unable to reproduce your SetPoint timing issue on the TBC Beta Client. Perhaps this issue has been fixed. |
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| 12:08.05 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:34.05 | hugo | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.21 | hugo | ~damn servers mainteance will be 36hours....... ugh |
| 12:34.37 | purl | ACTION damns servers mainteance will be 36hours....... ugh to the bowels of bloody hell forever. |
| 12:41.10 | hugo | ;] |
| 12:41.20 | hugo | ~version |
| 12:41.33 | purl | it has been said that version is sarge 3.1 |
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| 12:58.39 | Kirkburn | hey all |
| 12:59.17 | Kirkburn | Remember that DoA 'video' I linked yesterday? http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20061025 |
| 12:59.30 | Kirkburn | (see the accompanying news article too :) |
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| 13:29.44 | wereHamster | "so I can only assume that the entire development phase of the game consisted of some guy pushing the "bounce" toggle up as far as it would go." :) |
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| 14:08.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_g8bakwfaY&NR |
| 14:08.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | @_@ |
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| 14:12.50 | Aryaha | Hey. =) |
| 14:13.34 | TS|Skrom | okay so I've never seen that movie |
| 14:13.42 | TS|Skrom | is he supposed to be like autistic or something/ |
| 14:25.13 | zenzelezz | I find it peculiar that you can use your hearthstone while sitting |
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| 14:41.42 | Maldivia | hmm... uff... |
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| 14:51.59 | Maldivia | hmm, no more mana gain from downranking... |
| 14:52.14 | JoshBorke | why do you say that? |
| 14:52.25 | Maldivia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38173821&sid=1 |
| 14:52.52 | JoshBorke | yea, i've seen the thread, but the impact isn't that huge |
| 14:52.57 | Maldivia | just did the math, at +1000 healing, all flash heal have more or less the same healing pr mana |
| 14:52.58 | JoshBorke | well, for a paladin anyway |
| 14:53.14 | JoshBorke | i see |
| 14:53.19 | Maldivia | stddev: 0.15 |
| 14:53.19 | JoshBorke | what you're saying now |
| 14:53.41 | Beladona | it makes sense to me |
| 14:54.17 | Maldivia | will make healing a lot more challanging |
| 14:54.31 | Beladona | it follows the same idea as crit rating though |
| 14:55.25 | Beladona | it isn't that big a change if you don't downrank |
| 14:55.50 | Maldivia | if you dont downrank, there's no change |
| 14:55.59 | Beladona | exactly |
| 14:56.12 | Maldivia | but why not just change dmg/healing to ratings then, so say 1000 healing would be +50% at level 70 |
| 14:56.40 | Maldivia | but then casting time wouldn't be calculated.. |
| 14:57.15 | Galencia | i dont see why they didnt just make lower ranks not exist |
| 14:57.33 | Galencia | if they're there, people will come up with creative ways of using them.. |
| 14:57.50 | Beladona | several reasons |
| 14:58.05 | Beladona | 1) many spells have level requirements to cast. Which means you have to be able to downrank to even cast them on someone |
| 14:58.15 | Beladona | which requires multiple ranks to exist |
| 14:58.25 | Maldivia | personally, I'd like to keep rank 1 frostbolt, to almost instant snare people in pvp :) |
| 14:58.27 | Galencia | .. which the game now takes care of for you |
| 14:58.33 | Beladona | that could be fixed by having the spell dynamically scale based on the target's level |
| 14:58.48 | Galencia | thats already in wow 2.0 |
| 14:58.57 | krka | they should just remove ranks |
| 14:58.59 | Beladona | Galencia, it only takes care of it for certain spells, on certain targets |
| 14:59.05 | krka | only one instance of each spell per player |
| 14:59.08 | krka | problem solved |
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| 14:59.16 | zenzelezz | me warrior, me not know ranks |
| 14:59.29 | Elkano | Horst? |
| 14:59.29 | zenzelezz | heal plz |
| 14:59.31 | krka | we give you N spell ranks, but we only want you to use one |
| 14:59.35 | Beladona | I do wish there weren't multiple ranks, but they would need to change a lot more about the spell casting system first |
| 14:59.44 | Galencia | well, like what for example? |
| 14:59.52 | Galencia | they changed renew and buffs, that i know of |
| 15:00.16 | Beladona | like I said a second ago. You would need to not HAVE a reason to downrank in the first place. Which means spells would need to auto-scale |
| 15:00.24 | Maldivia | well, it's not always desireable to cast the highest rank, it's not always the damage you're after, a lot of spells have nice additional abilities |
| 15:01.03 | Galencia | Maldivia: but you have to wonder if those were intended too.. |
| 15:01.10 | Galencia | and whether they might disappear some time in the future |
| 15:01.18 | Maldivia | yeah... |
| 15:01.33 | Galencia | Beladona: i meant, give me an example of where it wouldnt currently auto scale now |
| 15:01.39 | krka | afaik, spells do downrank now, if the target is too low level |
| 15:01.47 | Maldivia | krka: in expansion, yes |
| 15:01.47 | krka | in tbc, that is |
| 15:01.57 | Beladona | Galencia - the auto-rank selection isn't a true scale |
| 15:02.04 | Beladona | all it does is downrank for you automatically |
| 15:02.13 | Galencia | you are avoiding the question |
| 15:02.17 | Beladona | which again, reqquires multiple ranks |
| 15:02.28 | Galencia | those multiple ranks could easily be hidden from you though |
| 15:02.35 | Beladona | having a single rank that scales, means no multiple ranks in the first place |
| 15:02.42 | Beladona | which means no auto-downranking |
| 15:02.50 | Beladona | which means spells would have to have variable returns based on target |
| 15:02.53 | Maldivia | well, almost all spells scale |
| 15:03.26 | Beladona | Galencia: it is very VERY similar in look and feel to the end user |
| 15:03.31 | Galencia | you could have multiple ransk behind the scenes for all i care, you just dont have to have them in your spellbook |
| 15:03.33 | Beladona | but there is a HUGE difference on the programming side |
| 15:03.38 | Galencia | yes i know what you're sayin |
| 15:03.39 | Galencia | g |
| 15:03.43 | Galencia | but that can easily be hidden |
| 15:03.44 | Beladona | THAT is what I am getting at |
| 15:03.55 | Beladona | sure it could, but that would be a hack |
| 15:04.04 | Beladona | why not just design it to work the right way in the first place? |
| 15:04.11 | Galencia | and changing all the coefficients isnt? :) |
| 15:04.55 | Galencia | hehe, i get you, i really do |
| 15:05.04 | Galencia | but they shoudl have had the foresight to do it rignt in the first place |
| 15:05.12 | Galencia | rather than punishing people now for being creative with what they were given |
| 15:05.26 | hugo | it looks like cause they're making smaller dungeons, with bit easier encounters, the trying to eliminate all the advantages you we been using in 40man raid |
| 15:05.30 | krka | blizzard has always had a reactive approach |
| 15:05.32 | hugo | smaller ranks too |
| 15:05.35 | Maldivia | was +dmg/healing in the game at release? |
| 15:05.45 | hugo | i think blizzard trying make wow more "game" again :) |
| 15:05.52 | hugo | that's all the changes about |
| 15:06.01 | Galencia | yeah, the chances are you probably arent going to "need" to downrank with the way things will be |
| 15:06.04 | Galencia | but still |
| 15:07.08 | Maldivia | Personally, I'm hoping the new 25-man raids will be more spread out healing, then 10 healers healing the same target |
| 15:07.35 | Maldivia | in other words, avoid the insane damage outburst from crit-streaks on the tank |
| 15:07.51 | Galencia | well, higher hp values should somewhat make that a reality |
| 15:07.56 | hugo | yeah |
| 15:07.58 | Galencia | and stacking hots |
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| 15:08.09 | hugo | i actually want encounters like where shaman will sometime tank mobs |
| 15:08.13 | hugo | then warriors only |
| 15:08.17 | hugo | more action in raid] |
| 15:08.24 | Galencia | think its more likely to be a paladin doing that than a shaman |
| 15:08.27 | hugo | and eliminate instakills ^^ |
| 15:08.29 | Maldivia | I think they are going for it, so hybrids are actually hybrids |
| 15:08.44 | Galencia | shaman are more dps oriented hybrids |
| 15:08.49 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 15:09.06 | hugo | it was just example |
| 15:09.09 | Maldivia | paladins: healing-tank, shamans: damage-healing, druids: tank-healign |
| 15:09.22 | hugo | hunters > reroll |
| 15:09.24 | hugo | ;] |
| 15:09.27 | krka | hunters = melee dps |
| 15:09.35 | Maldivia | hunters are just overpowered with their 41p talents |
| 15:09.36 | hugo | aka gothic ? ;] |
| 15:10.04 | hugo | as i said here yestarday.. kiling loathen is like flying in apollo on moon |
| 15:10.14 | hugo | far away from enjoyable game.. so hope for BC gets better ;d |
| 15:10.18 | hugo | loatheb* |
| 15:10.34 | Maldivia | although, I must admit I really like the new aggro ability, hunters got... "damn, that mage is winning the dps fight, ok lets just give him 10k more aggro!!" |
| 15:10.35 | Galencia | interesting times ahead, for sure |
| 15:10.50 | zenzelezz | I don't quite like the setting of Naxxramas, but I find the boss fights more fun than most other boss fights |
| 15:11.06 | hugo | only problem i see is alot guilds will fall |
| 15:11.14 | hugo | broke into two pieces and so |
| 15:11.24 | Beladona | in retrospect, you can't blame Blizz for not "doing it this way from the get-go" |
| 15:11.24 | hugo | disband inc |
| 15:11.31 | Beladona | I mean this was their first MMO for one thng |
| 15:11.33 | Galencia | Beladona: you can and you cant |
| 15:11.45 | Galencia | its easy to do from this chair, that's for sure |
| 15:11.50 | Beladona | and they ARE doing a damn good job about re-balancing |
| 15:11.57 | hugo | well none change is easy in such a popular game |
| 15:11.58 | Galencia | they are trying.. |
| 15:12.02 | Beladona | without totally overhauling the system, which would take forever |
| 15:12.05 | hugo | always someome will dislike it ;] |
| 15:12.28 | Maldivia | well, you'll always have a problem with inflation of stats, when new instances are released, since you everyone wants bigger and better items |
| 15:12.41 | Beladona | look at EQ |
| 15:12.46 | Beladona | talk about reactive changes |
| 15:12.47 | hugo | but this problem will be a bit big |
| 15:12.57 | Beladona | got overbuffing? |
| 15:12.58 | hugo | in few months you replace 2years equip |
| 15:13.03 | hugo | ;d |
| 15:13.25 | Maldivia | hugo, sure - and then you can spend a year replacing that gear in the new raid instances |
| 15:13.27 | Beladona | there isn't an MMO I have seen yet that "got it right" from the start |
| 15:13.35 | hugo | yeah ;> |
| 15:13.35 | Beladona | there are always changes that have to be made |
| 15:13.52 | Maldivia | hugo: and then a new expansion... level 80, go go rinse repeas |
| 15:14.01 | zenzelezz | they got it right from the start... it's just what came after that made it not work without adapting it |
| 15:14.02 | Beladona | so far, I think Blizz is heading in the right direction in mitigating the "inflation" most MMO experience in stats, content, etc... |
| 15:14.08 | Galencia | Beladona: yeah, but i mean somethings are just basic :p |
| 15:14.18 | Galencia | (like, say, client teleport hacks.. cmon..) |
| 15:14.58 | Maldivia | yeah, I agree on that... the server needs to validate more requests than it does at the moment |
| 15:15.07 | Maldivia | such as teleportation hacks and speed hacks |
| 15:15.14 | Galencia | that was a very basic design desicion |
| 15:15.17 | Galencia | which they got totally wrong |
| 15:15.21 | Galencia | not much they can do about i tnow.. |
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| 15:15.46 | Maldivia | they can validate on the server, if the person with it's current buffs are capable of moving that distance... |
| 15:16.31 | krka | yeah |
| 15:16.33 | krka | should be easy |
| 15:16.40 | krka | takes more processing though |
| 15:16.46 | Galencia | well, its not that simple |
| 15:16.52 | Galencia | there are implications of doing such things |
| 15:16.56 | krka | could apply monitoring on just reported players |
| 15:17.09 | Galencia | the problem is with the way it was designed |
| 15:18.20 | Beladona | there are a LOT of variables in that too though |
| 15:18.30 | Maldivia | well, movement is always tricky... |
| 15:18.37 | Beladona | adding more and more server-validated events means a lot of impact in general |
| 15:18.45 | Beladona | to ALL players |
| 15:18.48 | krka | just use 200% or something to compare with |
| 15:19.06 | krka | you only validate reported players |
| 15:19.12 | Beladona | my guess is they had actually evaluated that, and erred on the side of better performance |
| 15:19.22 | Beladona | in the hopes they could combat it normaly |
| 15:19.37 | cogwheel | WTB http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/accessories/5a65/ |
| 15:19.44 | zenzelezz | at least WoW doesn't have a runspeed skill that can be different for every single character, like Anarchy Online |
| 15:20.47 | wereHamster | "No, we're not kidding and no you don't eat it" :p |
| 15:21.50 | Galencia | Beladona: yeah but i mean.. some of the early wow versions, the teleport hack for them was amazingly basic and simlpe |
| 15:21.59 | Galencia | almost as if no validation or check got done at all |
| 15:22.53 | Galencia | this is a long time ago, mind |
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| 15:51.18 | Dagarr | so this room is exciting and pack full of conversation! Woo Hoo! |
| 15:51.47 | cogwheel | Most of the time :) |
| 15:51.55 | cogwheel | it's still a bit early though :P |
| 15:52.47 | Dagarr | it's almost noon here so that means even out west it's 10am |
| 15:52.48 | zenzelezz | I never understand people who think IRC should be a spamfest |
| 15:52.48 | Cairenn|afk | don't lie to him cogwheel, 90+ people hang out in here for the blessed silence |
| 15:53.09 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
| 15:53.11 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:53.18 | TS|Skrom_ | cogwheel it's always early he just joined :P |
| 15:53.29 | [Ammo] | at least it's silent here, and you don't get questions concerning externals and svn the whole bloody day :) |
| 15:53.29 | Dagarr | zenzelezz: I'm not looking for a spamfest :P |
| 15:53.40 | [Ammo] | like on #wowace :p |
| 15:54.05 | zenzelezz | Dagarr: was just a general observation that I was reminded of when you entered ;) |
| 15:54.18 | Cairenn|afk | ~ugt |
| 15:54.24 | purl | [ugt] Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:54.25 | zenzelezz | was thinking more of those "<join> hi <two seconds pass> <leaves> |
| 15:54.28 | zenzelezz | people |
| 15:54.48 | [Ammo] | think those people do the same thing in pubs? |
| 15:54.54 | Dagarr | ouch yeah the external thing is a pain. While convenient it does open the door to stupidity. :) |
| 15:54.58 | [Ammo] | open the door, step in, say hi, get a stunned silence, leave |
| 15:55.10 | [Ammo] | since no-one greets everyone in pubs nowadays :) |
| 15:55.14 | TS|Skrom_ | ~ugtritual |
| 15:55.17 | purl | It's like a ritual, isn't it. Someone says Good Morning. Someone else says "What, it's not morning!". And then we have our third man ugt-ing :) Every day ... and I love it! |
| 15:55.56 | Dagarr | HA! |
| 15:55.59 | zenzelezz | purl, you attention whore |
| 15:56.10 | JoshBorke | ~bothug |
| 15:56.14 | Galencia | [Ammo]: well, thats a little harsh.. you dont make it easy for yourselves sometimes. :p |
| 15:56.30 | [Ammo] | hey, it's only the truth |
| 15:56.45 | [Ammo] | and it's not like we're not willing to explain it :) |
| 15:56.58 | [Ammo] | it's just that every day there's a ton of people not comprehending it |
| 15:57.10 | Galencia | the problem is lackof decent documentation |
| 15:57.21 | Galencia | which i will fix sometime, instead of just complaining about it |
| 15:57.25 | Dagarr | well it's been a while since I have done IRC this much |
| 15:57.49 | Galencia | at least then you'll be able to beat people over the head with a url instead of repeating yourself :) |
| 15:57.50 | Dagarr | I blame Cairenn |
| 15:58.37 | Cairenn|afk | whaaaa? |
| 15:58.44 | Cairenn|afk | what I do now? |
| 15:58.55 | TS|Skrom_ | that's a loaded question |
| 15:59.01 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 15:59.15 | TS|Skrom_ | I'm kinda nervous today... |
| 16:00.14 | TS|Skrom_ | my boss has been looking at me funny. I think it's because I'm always tired (I play WoW, duh) I am always out of money (I'm paying $800 a month on a mortgage that's supposed to be partially paid for by rental revenue that hasn't come in yet) and I have these weird marks on my inner arm right at the elbow. Some kind of skin infection or something I don't know.. |
| 16:00.21 | TS|Skrom_ | but I think she thinks I'm on drugs >< |
| 16:02.23 | cogwheel | Cairenn|afk doesn't seem to be acting very afk... |
| 16:03.29 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom_: hehe. I had my wisdom teeth out a while back and had a huge bruise on my elbow where they missed the vein for the anesthetic... |
| 16:03.39 | Mery | "Cairenn|afk is away: Sleeping ... or at least trying to ..." |
| 16:05.19 | zenzelezz | Cairenn never sleeps, she just silently idles |
| 16:11.36 | Kirkburn | Finally - Rushster has got rid of the annoying number in front of every download on ui.worldofwar |
| 16:11.40 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 16:11.54 | zenzelezz | about time |
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| 16:14.27 | Dagarr | Cairenn: I blame you for getting me back into IRC. I had been a few years. |
| 16:14.44 | Dagarr | been gone that is* |
| 16:14.49 | Cairenn | Dagarr: hey, they sucked me back in, I'm just spreading the pain around to others ;) |
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| 16:15.21 | Cairenn | last time I IRC'd I was using dalnet O.O |
| 16:15.37 | cogwheel | I had never really used IRC until wowi-lounge... |
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| 16:16.04 | Cairenn | addicting, isn't it? |
| 16:16.19 | cogwheel | understatement, isn't it? |
| 16:16.24 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 16:16.24 | cogwheel | :) |
| 16:16.25 | Dagarr | I used to have bot wars with a buddy of mine back in the day. |
| 16:16.32 | Cairenn | Dagarr: lol |
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| 16:19.13 | Kirkburn | This channel was my first ever experience of IRC ... what an eye-opener it has been :P |
| 16:19.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | hehe |
| 16:19.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i've been on irc since, probably early 2001 or so |
| 16:19.48 | Dagarr | oo your a young one then |
| 16:20.11 | zenzelezz | I can hardly remember not being on IRC :-o |
| 16:22.10 | JoshBorke | i'm just here for Cairenn |
| 16:22.20 | JoshBorke | keep hoping i'll get lucky |
| 16:22.41 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:22.54 | JoshBorke | purl, hug Cairenn |
| 16:22.56 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn! |
| 16:22.56 | JoshBorke | ;-) |
| 16:23.22 | Cairenn | hah, that one's new |
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| 16:29.42 | cogwheel | WTB stable connection for Xavalia |
| 16:29.47 | cogwheel | XD |
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| 16:30.36 | Kirkburn | Aargh, ffs, some people are such whiners |
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| 16:31.11 | Kirkburn | I just had another guy 'leave' the wiki because he disagrees over whether spoiler tags are useful |
| 16:31.17 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: what now? |
| 16:31.18 | Cairenn | ah |
| 16:31.43 | Kirkburn | One of the most pointless discussions I've had in a while: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki_talk:Village_pump#Spoiler_tags |
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| 16:32.16 | Kirkburn | Following that, he posted: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Sharlin |
| 16:32.48 | Kirkburn | I just fail to see why people feel the wowwiki should be anything like wikipedia |
| 16:33.18 | Kirkburn | zomg, they have the same word in the name, we must add bureaucracy! More! No, more than that! |
| 16:33.56 | Kirkburn | I mean, he wanted me to define the word "extreme spoiler" :/ |
| 16:34.41 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: they both have "wiki" in the name, people don't think further than that |
| 16:35.54 | cogwheel | Anyone know if FF 2 RC3 is what they ultimately released? I have that, and it tells me there are no updates available... |
| 16:36.53 | nevcairiel | yes it is |
| 16:36.59 | nevcairiel | build 20061010 |
| 16:37.08 | cogwheel | ty |
| 16:37.58 | Cairenn | hey Kirkburn? |
| 16:38.03 | Kirkburn | Yo Cairenn |
| 16:38.21 | Cairenn | you have a clearfont for BC yet? |
| 16:38.42 | Kirkburn | Aye, that's a point |
| 16:38.42 | TS|Skrom | bwahaha |
| 16:38.45 | TS|Skrom | what a moron |
| 16:38.56 | Kirkburn | :P |
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| 16:39.21 | Kirkburn | I do, it's v11200-2 which I uploaded yesterday. It's essentially identical to the BC beta file |
| 16:39.23 | Cairenn | if you do, or if you have one that you think is ready but need de-bugging, you should get it uploaded to the BC category at wowi |
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| 16:39.48 | Cairenn | want it copied in then? |
| 16:39.58 | Kirkburn | I is confuzzled |
| 16:40.01 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5478-ClearFont.html |
| 16:40.04 | Beladona | OR |
| 16:40.16 | Kirkburn | (this is the normal one: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4283-ClearFont.html) |
| 16:40.18 | Cairenn | duh nm then I just missed it |
| 16:40.19 | Beladona | why not upload a dummy file, and link them in your description to the actual download? |
| 16:40.24 | Cairenn | ignore me |
| 16:40.30 | Beladona | that way download and history stays in one place? |
| 16:40.54 | Kirkburn | hrm |
| 16:40.55 | Cairenn | Beladona: the BC cat will get wiped when it goes live :p |
| 16:40.59 | Beladona | but thats just for people who have a version that works in both |
| 16:41.05 | Beladona | I know |
| 16:41.38 | Xavalia | Cairenn, hmm no idea what the heck was up with teh conenction |
| 16:41.47 | Xavalia | this irc client is running on a server |
| 16:41.52 | Cairenn | Xavalia: hehe, not a problem hun :) |
| 16:41.57 | Kirkburn | The two files are pretty much identical, so I don't think it really matters :) This was people are assured I have a BC version :P |
| 16:42.03 | Kirkburn | *this way |
| 16:42.17 | Cairenn | *nod* that's the idea :) |
| 16:42.43 | Cairenn | same goes for everyone in the channel - if you've got one you think is ready, or one you need debugged, get 'er up there |
| 16:43.23 | Cairenn | folks are missing their mods |
| 16:44.01 | Xavalia | Cairenn, I will restart the server.. no clue what is going on |
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| 16:51.10 | Swemetal | Does anyone here got time to help me alittle with my AddOn? The problem is about templates and seperate XML-files. |
| 16:52.56 | cogwheel | Just ask :) |
| 16:53.11 | cogwheel | it's what the channel's for |
| 16:54.46 | phyber | Cairenn: is WoWI having issues at the moment? I'm having trouble updating my mods. Having to hit "Update File" a few times before it goes. |
| 16:55.09 | Cairenn | phyber: not seeming to from my end |
| 16:55.10 | Swemetal | Thanks. Well today i desided to try to write an AddOn, and I found the XML part to be hard, or for me -un-understandable. I want to create a frame wich inherits options and such from a template I got in another XML-file. |
| 16:55.17 | Cairenn | I've been approving as fast as you get them uploaded |
| 16:55.47 | Swemetal | And it doesnt seem to work for me, how do I link these two files, or make one of them include the other one? |
| 16:56.28 | phyber | Cairenn: strange. I've had the issue in Firefox and Opera so far. I'll try IE, see what that does. |
| 16:56.45 | Cairenn | I'm using FF here and not seeing any problems |
| 16:56.46 | cogwheel | Swemetal: check out http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ for a nice tutorial on frames. As far as inheriting, if you're inheriting something from the default UI, they're just available. If its something of your own, you need to put both XML files in the .toc in the correct order |
| 16:57.01 | Cairenn | may just be a hic-up somewhere between you and the site |
| 16:57.14 | phyber | yeah. |
| 16:57.26 | Swemetal | cogwheel: Thanks, I will read that! |
| 16:57.57 | tyroney|work | Last night I played on a machine that might have been insecure, so just now I changed my password, and right after, worldofwarcraft went down. |
| 16:58.18 | JoshBorke | YOU CRASHED WORLDOFWARCRAFT! ZOMG!!!111oneoneone |
| 16:58.52 | wereHamster | "Having to hit "Update File" a few times before it goes. |
| 16:58.59 | wereHamster | ^^^ really bad idea |
| 16:59.05 | tyroney|work | It was funny, I went to update contact info just to check it, and it must have died right then, because my country came out as albania, and the list stopped around "p", |
| 16:59.18 | zenzelezz | I'm looking forward to when the Hallow's End is over... so I can raid without getting turned into bats and skeletons all the time |
| 16:59.21 | phyber | wereHamster: why is it a bad idea? I have to hit it again after I get "your connection to the site was reset" :p |
| 16:59.56 | Cairenn | phyber: you might want to post in our site help forum (bottom of the list of forums), just in case there is something funky going on |
| 17:00.04 | tyroney|work | zenzelezz: surely there must be an auto-unbuff mod for things like that and priests who keep getting thorned. |
| 17:00.08 | wereHamster | I once 'corrupted' my addon - I think it even deleted the addon or somtthing like that |
| 17:00.22 | Cairenn | phyber: Dolby will look at it, see if there's anything wonky going on at our end |
| 17:00.26 | zenzelezz | tyroney|work: it's not annoying enough to bother with that |
| 17:00.35 | zenzelezz | but I know there are such mods... like killsalvation |
| 17:09.29 | Kirkburn | Heh, someone's already got this : http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q198/retsevas/turtle.jpg :) |
| 17:10.36 | zenzelezz | lol... raid chat "32 on TS"... so the leader says, on TS, "and get on teamspeak" |
| 17:12.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | i love when raid/guild leaders do that |
| 17:12.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's all too common |
| 17:15.18 | zenzelezz | Harbinger of Doom dropped from second pull tonight |
| 17:15.22 | zenzelezz | TS: 20x"WOW" |
| 17:16.30 | JoshBorke | oooo, i want a turtle! |
| 17:17.02 | Plorkyeran | Are turtles usable indoors? |
| 17:28.21 | Fisker | hehe Kirkburn |
| 17:28.26 | Fisker | fitting accountname too |
| 17:28.47 | Fisker | accountname = guildname |
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| 18:10.32 | hugo | Kirkburn that turtle is fake aint it |
| 18:10.35 | hugo | ?;] |
| 18:10.40 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 18:10.46 | hugo | from BC ? |
| 18:10.48 | Kirkburn | It's a reward from the new card game |
| 18:11.03 | Kirkburn | Rare cards have codes on them you can enter to get vanity items |
| 18:11.15 | hugo | card game ? ;o |
| 18:11.17 | zenzelezz | is it a 60% or 100%? |
| 18:11.17 | Kirkburn | The turtle mount is just one |
| 18:11.21 | Kirkburn | 60% |
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| 18:11.27 | hugo | what card game do you mean |
| 18:11.27 | Kirkburn | Usable at *any* level |
| 18:11.39 | Kirkburn | Check the official website |
| 18:11.50 | hugo | you mean sime real life card game |
| 18:11.52 | Kirkburn | It's shortened to WoW:TCG |
| 18:11.56 | hugo | or inside wow card game |
| 18:11.57 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 18:12.01 | Rhez | is there a mod library for chat parsing? on the fly parsing* |
| 18:12.02 | Kirkburn | Like Magic: The Gathering |
| 18:12.35 | Kirkburn | (that was yup to "real life card game" |
| 18:12.52 | Rhez | anyone? |
| 18:13.21 | hugo | Kirkburn i would say that's a cool management strategy ^^ |
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| 18:13.26 | hugo | another good money income ;] |
| 18:13.50 | hugo | what are the other rewards btw |
| 18:13.55 | Kirkburn | Well, it's not made by Blizzard, but they likely to get *some* money from it |
| 18:14.06 | Kirkburn | Check-eh le website-eh :) |
| 18:14.07 | cogwheel | Rhez: not really. Lua's pattern matching capabilities are about as powerful as it gets. Anything else would be pretty limiting. |
| 18:14.11 | hugo | yeah *some* for nothning is always best ;] |
| 18:14.21 | hugo | eu or us ? |
| 18:14.58 | Rhez | cogwheel, I seem to be having alot of trouble parsing the chat tho :( |
| 18:15.12 | Rhez | do you know of any simple working examples? that are very simple and to the point |
| 18:16.04 | cogwheel | Rhez: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 18:16.08 | mancini | LUA regex support is daunting |
| 18:16.14 | tyroney|work | Rhez: If you're talking about regular expressions, it doesn't get terribly simple. They're just annoying like that. |
| 18:16.16 | weab | daunting? |
| 18:16.22 | Rhez | euwwwww @ regex |
| 18:16.30 | mancini | that is to say incomplete , yes |
| 18:16.32 | Kirkburn | hugo, EU and US :) |
| 18:16.33 | cogwheel | lua uses a simple type of regex |
| 18:16.33 | Rhez | I'm not talkng regex |
| 18:16.41 | Rhez | I dont have trouble wit that |
| 18:16.46 | cogwheel | rhez, what exactly do you want it to do? |
| 18:16.52 | hugo | Reward #3: A reusable trinket that changes your in-game appearance to an ogre |
| 18:16.55 | hugo | :) |
| 18:16.58 | Rhez | I get errors in my debug log : unhandled event |
| 18:17.07 | Rhez | for the chat msg |
| 18:17.34 | mancini | Lua regexps don't have groups. The quantifiers apply either to the preceding symbol or the preceding builtin character class. (Lua does have capture groups, for use with backreferences, but they do not serve as quantifier domains.) Lua lacks the range quantifiers (e.g. {2,4} = "from two through four inclusive") found in any POSIX regexp package. It does not permit characters to be specified using the usual octal and hex escapes, and it does |
| 18:17.34 | mancini | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.48 | mancini | endquote |
| 18:19.04 | Rhez | cogwheel: I want to be able to call a function when a specific line is displayed in the chat bo |
| 18:19.06 | Rhez | box* |
| 18:19.13 | JoshBorke | you can do that |
| 18:19.16 | Rhez | I have the line properly |
| 18:19.20 | Mery | The turtle mount is 0% its as fast as running |
| 18:19.30 | Rhez | cuz I took the regex part from another mod |
| 18:19.36 | weab | well, duh. it's a turtle for christ's sake |
| 18:19.40 | Rhez | but I cant get it to work properly |
| 18:19.55 | Rhez | I jstwant a simple example ofit in use :( so I can see what I am doing wrong |
| 18:19.56 | Swemetal | Ive read http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/ now, and I get it to work if I got all XML code in the same XML file, but with seperate files it wont work! Ive tryed with <Include file="..."> and to include the files in the TOC-file. Anyone knows what the problem might be? |
| 18:20.27 | JoshBorke | Swemetal: what errors do you get? did you check FrameXML.log? |
| 18:20.27 | weab | Rhez: what's a specific example of what you want to match |
| 18:20.32 | Mery | Swemetal: you can check Logs/FrameXML.log and see if it printed an error there |
| 18:20.40 | cogwheel | One of the howtos i linked shows you how to parse event messages. If it doesn't help, you may want to stick your code on pastey.net so we can take a look. |
| 18:21.20 | cogwheel | along with the exact error message you're getting |
| 18:23.27 | Swemetal | I got no errors, hmm can you link to that HOWTO again? |
| 18:24.26 | Kirkburn | Hey, when did Battlegroups get names? |
| 18:24.27 | Rhez | weab: I just explained it, specific messagein chat, wether itbe a tell, or someone looting a corpse, or combat message, and then be able to dowhat I wish with each event that I tell itto look for |
| 18:25.25 | Swemetal | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Get_More_Useful_Errors ?:) |
| 18:26.10 | JoshBorke | Rhez: you can't really do that easily |
| 18:26.27 | Rhez | josh: and why not? a milion other mods do it |
| 18:26.30 | JoshBorke | Rhez: i would recommend downloading DevTools from wowinterface and using that to find out the events for all those actions (they are all different) |
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| 18:27.20 | Rhez | josh, I do have it, but it seems to have issues, it got memory leaks or something |
| 18:27.22 | JoshBorke | you basically have to determine what events are triggered when someone sends you a tell or someone is looting a corpse etc then parse the arg1 value |
| 18:27.29 | weab | what's the end goal of this parsing |
| 18:27.40 | JoshBorke | what sort of issues? |
| 18:27.50 | weab | use the specific events as JoshBorke says if at all possible |
| 18:28.16 | Swemetal | Ok, even with that error handling code I wont get any error, the window just wont show up when I got the actual window in one XML file and the template in another. |
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| 18:29.05 | Rhez | unhandled exceptions |
| 18:29.12 | Rhez | @ wowuides |
| 18:29.40 | JoshBorke | Swemetal: you need to make sure the template is included BEFORE the other file. you also need to make sure your mod is actually being loaded |
| 18:30.57 | Swemetal | Heres my code: http://rafb.net/paste/results/cdu2JG84.html |
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| 18:31.17 | Swemetal | ok, I will change order of the XML files in the toc file and try. |
| 18:31.35 | JoshBorke | you need to have template.xml first |
| 18:32.07 | Swemetal | I have that now, it wont work. |
| 18:32.25 | Swemetal | Maybe I need to restart WoW, im using the ReloadUI() function now. |
| 18:33.14 | JoshBorke | are the files in a 'test' folder? |
| 18:34.45 | JoshBorke | i guess Rhez didn't want any more help... |
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| 18:35.30 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:35.50 | Swemetal | JoshBorke: yes, all files are in the same folder |
| 18:35.58 | Swemetal | and the mod loads, i can use my slash commands |
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| 18:50.54 | GremWarsong | Can anyone recommend a good party DPS/heal meter? |
| 18:51.03 | GremWarsong | actually, just DPS |
| 18:53.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | i just use damagemeters now |
| 18:54.38 | Beladona | I prefer http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5294-DamageMeters-AL.html |
| 18:56.45 | GremWarsong | Cool, thanks =) |
| 19:14.12 | Kaso | you know whats fun; following a 59 paladin and constantly dispelling him as he grinds |
| 19:17.44 | zenzelezz | one thing I hate about LCDs is that they're so much harder to whack than CRTs |
| 19:17.50 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 19:38.41 | kaiden | darn cladhaire's asleep :( |
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| 19:42.43 | Kirkburn | ~1.13 |
| 19:42.44 | purl | 1.13 is dead, Dave. Dave, 1.13 is dead. Dead, Dave. 1.13, Dead. Dave, it's dead. 1.13 is dead, Dave. |
| 19:43.19 | KamQuat | ... |
| 19:43.20 | Thunder_Child | is someone having trouble with patches? |
| 19:43.29 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 19:44.36 | Thunder_Child | needs to be followed with "and if you dont stop dave, your going to be dead as well" |
| 19:45.12 | KamQuat | why the comment about 1.13? |
| 19:45.43 | KamQuat | last i heard they were or were not considering a new content release before 2007's BC release |
| 19:46.03 | kaiden | they will be releasing tons of new content before BC according to their posts |
| 19:46.13 | kaiden | all the new talents up until 31 point will be coming out etc |
| 19:46.13 | Thunder_Child | it's confused, but the gist of it (i think) is that they will release 2.0 during the holidays |
| 19:46.24 | Kirkburn | 2.0 != TBC |
| 19:46.39 | Kirkburn | 2.0 = upgrade to the way WoW works |
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| 19:47.45 | Thunder_Child | yes, 2.0 holidays, BC jan. But they also said that they were not going to release pre BC content.. |
| 19:47.52 | KamQuat | ah |
| 19:47.58 | Thunder_Child | they lie.... |
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| 19:51.35 | Cide | is Kirkburn alive? |
| 19:51.49 | Kirkburn | Nah, someone killed me? |
| 19:52.05 | Thunder_Child | Kirk, you dont know if soemone killed you? |
| 19:52.13 | Kirkburn | Well, it's hard to tell |
| 19:52.27 | Thunder_Child | how so? |
| 19:52.33 | Cide | you're decent/awesome at CSS I believe? :) |
| 19:52.45 | Kirkburn | I'm decent :P |
| 19:53.18 | cogwheel | Hurry, everyone, and extol the virtues of lua to the slashdot n00bs!!! http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/25/147203 |
| 19:53.52 | cogwheel | Bite back at comments like "Just what the world needs, another 'toy' programming language, a solution in search of a problem. Toss this aside next to the java books. A cute theoretical analysis, but more or less useless in the real world." |
| 19:53.54 | cogwheel | XD |
| 19:55.16 | kaiden | bah fileserver2 is acting up |
| 19:55.25 | kaiden | cairenn! beat it up! |
| 19:57.32 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know how id change the tooltip for mouseovering gold in a mob's inventory? |
| 19:57.58 | GremWarsong | actually, not tooltip, but I want to change the appearance of the money description in mob inventory |
| 19:58.12 | GremWarsong | or possibly add a tooltip over the money in the mob's inventory |
| 19:58.24 | MentalPower | what exactly do you want to do? |
| 19:58.33 | GremWarsong | add a tooltip for money in a mob's inventory |
| 19:58.49 | GremWarsong | or change the "5 silver 24 copper" display |
| 19:59.31 | GremWarsong | Is there a way to read item names from a mob's lootbox? |
| 20:00.43 | GremWarsong | " lootQuantity |
| 20:00.43 | GremWarsong | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.04 | GremWarsong | and coin doesn't have 'tooltips' either I dont think...at least nothing pops up when you mouseover it |
| 20:01.39 | krka | w00t, lua on slashdot |
| 20:01.50 | MentalPower | krka: linky! |
| 20:02.26 | GremWarsong | Ohhhh, GetLootSlotInfo returns loot name |
| 20:02.37 | GremWarsong | I just have to parse out the money somehow |
| 20:02.48 | Thunder_Child | http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/25/147203 |
| 20:03.48 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: scroll up a bit... |
| 20:03.50 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 20:04.03 | Thunder_Child | i know but Mental asked for it |
| 20:05.07 | MentalPower | thanks |
| 20:05.08 | cogwheel | s/Thunder_Child/MentalPower/ |
| 20:05.09 | cogwheel | XD |
| 20:05.40 | cogwheel | fyi: if anyone reads the comments, i'm vashfish |
| 20:06.02 | Mery | lol I just spent 3 min searching in my inventory for the quest key, just to then find out they put it in the keyring automatically ;-) |
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| 20:39.59 | kaiden | does anyone know if they added the pop bars like they said they would in TBC |
| 20:40.23 | kaiden | let me rephrase, the key modifiers that can pop up extra buttons to be able to cast in combat |
| 20:40.29 | kaiden | i remember them saying they were going to add that ability |
| 20:41.10 | kaiden | to where like if we hit 4 it would pop up a bar then we could hit 4 again to cast #4 on that bar |
| 20:42.25 | MentalPower | I think thats being implemented, but I'm not sure |
| 20:45.52 | cogwheel | kaiden: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/compare/2006022/live (specifically the SecureAnchorButtonTemplate in SecureTemplates.xml) |
| 20:49.01 | cogwheel | Not sure if it's in its final version yet, but it's there :) |
| 20:58.17 | Swemetal | Hmm, this is what I've done: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VkHCik46.html, if anyone got time please look at it and tell me why I cant use the template in template.xmp for my window in test.xml. |
| 21:00.18 | cogwheel | Looks ok to me... check your FrameXML.log to see if there were any typos... |
| 21:00.55 | cogwheel | also, try out pastey.net (in the channel topic). It lets you do XML & lua syntax highlighting |
| 21:01.25 | JoshBorke | Swemetal: did you make sure that your addon was being loaded at all? |
| 21:01.36 | JoshBorke | Swemetal: ie, does the Standard_Dialog frame exist? |
| 21:01.50 | JoshBorke | or the test_Frame exists? |
| 21:06.39 | kaiden | cogwheel, has anyone made a mod to make use of that stuff? |
| 21:07.27 | cogwheel | Not that I know of. It's still a very new system and may have some changes in store. I think the next beta patch will have a more final version. |
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| 21:09.35 | kaiden | i just wish blizzard would themselves make use of it |
| 21:09.37 | kaiden | and build it into the game |
| 21:13.33 | kaiden | they did do something nice when they made it auto upgrade your bars with new ranks of the spells you get |
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| 21:16.02 | GremWarsong | Is there a way to change the appearance of the trade window? |
| 21:16.27 | kaiden | what do you mean? |
| 21:16.37 | GremWarsong | Like, change the way it's organized |
| 21:16.42 | GremWarsong | the position of the trade boxes, or buttons |
| 21:16.42 | kaiden | yes you can make it larger |
| 21:16.52 | GremWarsong | Besides resizing it =) |
| 21:17.06 | kaiden | you can resituate everything in the window if you rebuild it |
| 21:17.15 | kaiden | look at oSkin's code, they reposition buttons etc |
| 21:17.22 | GremWarsong | ah, cool |
| 21:17.43 | kaiden | well then again that all depends on if it's protected or not i think |
| 21:17.59 | GremWarsong | hmm |
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| 21:26.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.ageofrebirth.com/thedump/imgs/sungrass.jpg = lollers |
| 21:26.50 | kaiden | site not found |
| 21:27.01 | gnorlish | FUCK YOU, SUNGRASS |
| 21:27.01 | kaiden | n/m stupid firefox |
| 21:27.02 | kaiden | :p |
| 21:27.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | he changed all the herb models to an untextured fish |
| 21:27.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | that swims in place |
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| 21:29.09 | Mery | "yay my saber can swim"... 30 seconds later *dismount sound* /cry it was only lag |
| 21:30.02 | cogwheel | Yeah... that's one downside to upgrading to an insanely fast computer with an insanely fast internet connection. |
| 21:30.18 | cogwheel | No more dismount lag |
| 21:30.39 | Mery | well I'm sure this one had to do with the server |
| 21:30.53 | Mery | there were all other kinds of server side lag before |
| 21:31.19 | cogwheel | Yeah... it's mostly server, but other stuff still plays a role. |
| 21:31.31 | cogwheel | I did have a quite obvious change when i upgraded. |
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| 21:40.30 | End | hmm |
| 21:40.37 | End | fubar goes blank on ui reload |
| 21:41.09 | End | oh that's interesting, everything is getting disabled |
| 21:41.26 | End | (as if it isn't loading settings?) |
| 21:41.45 | End | (nvm, I can't even enable anything) |
| 21:41.55 | End | (there is definitely something broken here) |
| 21:43.23 | weab | (hi) |
| 21:43.28 | weab | (weirdo) |
| 21:43.55 | End | (your face) |
| 21:44.12 | Thunder_Child | thats been going on for a while end...thats why i switched back to titan |
| 21:46.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, fubar does strange things on reloads and alt z's |
| 21:46.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | once it put every plugin on its own bar |
| 21:46.17 | Mr_Rabies2 | took up like 95 |
| 21:46.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | % of my screen |
| 21:46.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | wasn't too big of a deal to just put em back, and it was hilarious |
| 21:53.59 | End | oddd |
| 21:54.07 | End | it loses settings on one char, but not the other |
| 21:54.10 | End | on reload |
| 21:57.31 | End | I think I know why |
| 21:57.45 | End | a few of the fu plugins weren't enabled on this char |
| 21:57.54 | End | that's my theory at least |
| 22:04.37 | Kirkburn | Wow, Steam really is building up a collection of big name titles now :O http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php |
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| 22:05.58 | zenzelezz | doesn't matter what titles it has, I still hate it from the bottom of my heart |
| 22:06.01 | vhaarr | It seems TargetByName has been removed in TBC, but Iriels 2.0.0 changes post does not mention it, what gives? |
| 22:06.39 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, eh? |
| 22:07.01 | zenzelezz | Steam is just an annoying piece of software that gets in the way |
| 22:07.18 | Kaso | Its just been protected vhaarr see : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&sid=1 |
| 22:07.22 | weab | -TargetByName(name.."-"..server, 1); |
| 22:07.23 | weab | +TargetUnit(name.."-"..server, 1); |
| 22:07.48 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, I would disagree with you, but let's not argue about it :P |
| 22:08.04 | Thunder_Child | not argue, discuss |
| 22:08.17 | Kirkburn | ahahahahahaha .... good one :) |
| 22:08.29 | vhaarr | Kaso, weab: Aha. |
| 22:09.05 | vhaarr | So I can't use that method anyway. |
| 22:09.28 | Industrial | steam is the devil |
| 22:09.32 | Industrial | actually valve is |
| 22:09.58 | Thunder_Child | people say that about blizzard..... |
| 22:10.00 | Kaso | I'll love valve for every more if portal is as good as the trailer makes it seem |
| 22:10.01 | zenzelezz | bah, why does Firefox 2 add a Go button that I can't seem to get rid of |
| 22:10.08 | zenzelezz | even IE lets you remove that one... |
| 22:10.17 | Industrial | I hate them for making team fortress 2 as a sell stunt and not giving a crap about the tfc community - wich mod they havent updated for 4 years and wich still has 8 year old bugs |
| 22:10.34 | Industrial | marketingstunt* |
| 22:10.39 | Thunder_Child | i like it for multiplayer games, but not for single |
| 22:10.45 | weab | about:config |
| 22:10.46 | zenzelezz | TFC is free, you can't demand updates for that |
| 22:10.51 | weab | search for gobutton |
| 22:10.51 | Industrial | yes i can |
| 22:10.55 | Industrial | valve bought it |
| 22:11.13 | Industrial | you need half life 1 for it, wich you must buy |
| 22:11.14 | zenzelezz | weab: found it, but it's still stupid not to have a setting for it in the config (or even the Customize window) |
| 22:11.15 | Industrial | so im their client |
| 22:11.19 | Kirkburn | Not entirely 'bought' |
| 22:11.24 | Kaso | marketing stunt though ? |
| 22:11.31 | Industrial | yes, tf2 sucks ass |
| 22:11.44 | Industrial | they wont even lsiten to what any clanplayers say |
| 22:11.52 | weab | zenzelezz: shrug, i agree, but you *can* get rid of it. i'm annoyed there's no way to remove the search button |
| 22:11.53 | Industrial | you know the people that play the most? |
| 22:11.54 | vhaarr | " |
| 22:11.54 | Kaso | i cant say ive played it but it looks pretty cool from the trailers ive seen |
| 22:12.01 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: the Reality engine was bought by Epic |
| 22:12.16 | Kirkburn | lol, I was meaning the, uh, real sort of reality |
| 22:12.16 | Industrial | fortress-forever.com |
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| 22:12.30 | Industrial | made by community people for the community |
| 22:12.36 | Industrial | entirely free, will be updated, etc |
| 22:12.48 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:12.53 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 22:12.56 | Industrial | they are coding IN bunnyhopping ;) |
| 22:12.56 | Cairenn|afk | hi ckknight |
| 22:13.05 | Kirkburn | You know what? I'm glad Valve don't listen to the clanplayers. They aren't the majority. |
| 22:13.24 | Industrial | theres only clanplayers left in tfc |
| 22:13.25 | Guillotine | hey ck :) |
| 22:13.40 | weab | bunnyhopping was fun, but it's lame. |
| 22:13.44 | Kirkburn | Ciao ckknight |
| 22:13.47 | Industrial | its not, its a skill |
| 22:14.00 | Industrial | and part of tfc |
| 22:14.04 | ckknight | doesn't "Ciao" mean "Goodbye"? |
| 22:14.09 | Kirkburn | Both |
| 22:14.10 | Industrial | yes ck |
| 22:14.10 | Thunder_Child | i could never get bhoping down |
| 22:14.17 | Industrial | I dont walk in tfc |
| 22:14.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:14.45 | Industrial | you cant play a match without bunnyhopping |
| 22:15.00 | Thunder_Child | yes you can |
| 22:15.02 | weab | it's an exploit and it's lame. |
| 22:15.05 | Industrial | or everyone goes soldier and its down to who had the most firepowr at a certain spot on the map |
| 22:15.11 | Kirkburn | Ahem ... TFC: "It was ported to Half-Life by the developers of the Team Fortress mod for Quake in collaboration with Valve Software." |
| 22:15.21 | weab | it shouldn't exist any more than rocketjumping |
| 22:15.25 | Kirkburn | Valve helped make TFC in the first place |
| 22:15.33 | zenzelezz | since Valve employed the TF creators, yes |
| 22:15.39 | Kaso | sorry whats wrong with rocketjumping ? |
| 22:15.49 | weab | same thing that's wrong with bunnyhopping |
| 22:15.52 | zenzelezz | which was not a bad idea, since they needed people who knew the Quake engine at the time |
| 22:16.00 | Kirkburn | TFC came out *after* Valve got involved |
| 22:16.05 | Industrial | weab: you obviously have never tried going beyond picking HWguy and mowing your own team down |
| 22:16.24 | Industrial | wich is what the majority of the players fo |
| 22:16.26 | Industrial | do* |
| 22:16.33 | weab | Industrial: yeah, go right to the "you're a newb" arguement. |
| 22:16.34 | Kirkburn | I still don't understand the problem ... TF2 is an update to TFC |
| 22:16.43 | Kirkburn | zomg, you have to pay for it |
| 22:16.47 | weab | i played tfc for years |
| 22:16.57 | weab | i knew how to bunnyhop and rocketjump |
| 22:17.00 | zenzelezz | I miss the TF2 they were making back in 2000 |
| 22:17.01 | weab | i know what i'm talking about |
| 22:17.12 | Industrial | zenzelezz: fortress-forever.com |
| 22:17.26 | Industrial | weab: there cant be team fortress without bunnyhopping |
| 22:17.35 | zenzelezz | Industrial: from what you've said that sounds *nothing* like the TF2 Valve were making in 2000 |
| 22:17.37 | Industrial | its been part of the game ever singe quaakeworld team fortress |
| 22:17.39 | weab | you're just clinging to nostalgia. |
| 22:17.42 | Industrial | zenzelezz: I know |
| 22:17.48 | zenzelezz | at the time TF2 was set to be a realistic war game, which was what I wanted |
| 22:17.54 | weab | it doesn't mean it's good for gameplay or that it should exist |
| 22:17.57 | Industrial | zenzelezz: bf2 :P |
| 22:17.57 | Kirkburn | Nothing like TFC then |
| 22:18.22 | Industrial | weab: im clinging to what has made my games of tfc FUN for the last 8 years |
| 22:18.22 | zenzelezz | Industrial: not realistic, still too arcadeish. BF1942 was fun though |
| 22:18.46 | Kirkburn | Ahem ... why are we assuming bhopping isn't in TF2? |
| 22:19.03 | Kirkburn | Bhopping is even in HL2 |
| 22:19.03 | Industrial | youll have to code it in |
| 22:19.05 | Thunder_Child | ah Kirk, now i understand yout laughter after my comment. |
| 22:19.09 | Industrial | thats not bhopping |
| 22:19.09 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 22:19.12 | Industrial | sorta |
| 22:19.15 | Kirkburn | Yes it is |
| 22:19.22 | Industrial | you cant tur right :| |
| 22:19.25 | Kirkburn | Have you seen the speeds they can acheive? |
| 22:19.26 | Industrial | turn* |
| 22:19.33 | Industrial | (maybe I havent tried hard enough) |
| 22:19.46 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 22:20.17 | Industrial | but in tfc you spin around an imaginary axis when you turn in the air, you can turn like uh, 3/4 a circle before landing |
| 22:20.29 | Industrial | its the shit for not getting hit :> |
| 22:20.51 | Kirkburn | Anyway, this is a silly conversation. We have one person not liking Valve for not releasing a game in the style they wanted, and another about how it'll play when no-one has tried yet :P |
| 22:20.57 | weab | it's ridiculous. |
| 22:21.31 | Kirkburn | Industrial, oh yeah, I remember that |
| 22:21.52 | Kirkburn | At least rocket-jumping is still in >.< |
| 22:23.05 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5313589492219611964&q=team+fortress+classic+-skills |
| 22:23.09 | Industrial | thats tfc |
| 22:23.17 | Industrial | (rizzo one of the best players of tfc :P) |
| 22:28.11 | chuckg | I have no idea what the fuck is going on in that video. |
| 22:28.25 | chuckg | Just see him flying at 9 million miles an hour. |
| 22:28.25 | Industrial | flag captures |
| 22:28.33 | Industrial | red thingy is a flag :P |
| 22:28.40 | chuckg | Oh I get that. |
| 22:28.44 | chuckg | But it's like no one can shoot anyone else. |
| 22:28.49 | chuckg | As fast as he's moving. |
| 22:29.01 | Industrial | hes really good |
| 22:29.03 | Industrial | heh |
| 22:29.16 | Industrial | but yeah thats what offense does in matches |
| 22:29.31 | Xavalia | hmm |
| 22:29.33 | Industrial | fly around pushing the flag on though the map to the base entrance by throwing it |
| 22:29.43 | cladhaire | I kind of want to stab faithkills |
| 22:29.46 | cladhaire | i mean not really |
| 22:30.08 | End | stabby stabby? |
| 22:31.17 | Industrial | chuckg: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5420938125874531576&q=team+fortress+classic+-skills |
| 22:31.26 | Industrial | that one might show you more clearly |
| 22:32.54 | cladhaire | *cry* http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=35804284&postId=391515107&sid=1#129 |
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| 22:35.50 | Kirkburn | Have you seen the speed at which scouts move in TF2? That plus bhopping = you lose :P |
| 22:38.00 | hugo | team fortress _ |
| 22:38.02 | hugo | ? |
| 22:38.21 | Kirkburn | yes |
| 22:38.30 | hugo | yeah waiting for it ;] |
| 22:39.13 | Industrial | well im extremely biased and grudgy about it so i wont give any more comments. |
| 22:40.03 | hugo | what ;o |
| 22:40.05 | Industrial | cladhaire: whats 'twitch' ? :| |
| 22:40.18 | Thunder_Child | like an FPS |
| 22:40.21 | cladhaire | TWITCH TWITCH TWITCH TWITCH |
| 22:40.31 | cladhaire | itts his effing pet word |
| 22:40.41 | cladhaire | just means you have to react quickly to something thats happening. |
| 22:40.41 | Thunder_Child | where the faster you can click the better you are |
| 22:40.46 | Thunder_Child | it's called twitch gaming |
| 22:41.03 | Industrial | Oh well then ive got some new for him |
| 22:41.08 | Industrial | welcome to Live(tm) |
| 22:41.11 | Industrial | life* |
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| 22:42.02 | Industrial | I mean comon, you are either better because you are more skilled or better because you are smarter |
| 22:42.16 | Industrial | mmorpgs require both, but in the end it comes down to skill |
| 22:42.24 | hugo | "If I cannot play with my mom and gf anymore I doubt I will stick with WoW myself" |
| 22:42.33 | hugo | what a post ;o |
| 22:42.41 | cladhaire | no |
| 22:42.43 | cladhaire | its reasonable. |
| 22:42.47 | cladhaire | but he's just trolling rig htnow. |
| 22:42.58 | hugo | yeah his friends play wow |
| 22:42.59 | hugo | his gf |
| 22:43.01 | hugo | his mom |
| 22:43.03 | hugo | lol |
| 22:43.06 | cladhaire | and more importantly, he has no idea what the game mechanicks are like in beta. |
| 22:43.22 | cladhaire | decursing a 40 man raid is hard.. decursing a 25 man raid, where there aren't a ton of mass debuffs.. not that bad. |
| 22:47.14 | Kaso | This is amusing; On danish news they had an article about how theyre going might start blocking sites with warez etc, they showed this guy who used allofmp3.com, here's a couple pictures from the news article: http://pils.r1hosting.net/pics/mp3dl1.jpg, http://pils.r1hosting.net/pics/mp3dl2.jpg |
| 22:47.59 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:48.01 | Industrial | at second |
| 22:48.46 | Industrial | I dont understand why there should even be such a fuss about having to click more and it being painful because you are disabled. |
| 22:49.16 | cladhaire | TWITCH TWITCH TWITCH! |
| 22:49.21 | Industrial | You play an online game to bea it, you beat it be being good |
| 22:49.31 | Industrial | by being* |
| 22:49.53 | Industrial | you can not ever claim to be 'special |
| 22:50.06 | Industrial | because if you cant handle it you shoudnt play |
| 22:50.15 | Industrial | dont see someone in a wheelchair doign a rodeo |
| 22:50.39 | Industrial | how is that different with online games? |
| 22:50.51 | Thunder_Child | clad, relax and take your downers |
| 22:51.11 | weab | it's different in a lot of ways |
| 22:51.27 | weab | but you're ranting so enjoy yourself |
| 22:51.56 | Industrial | cause noone talks back |
| 22:52.38 | zenzelezz | if the game itself, alone, does not let you play, you can't whine when addons stop working |
| 22:54.00 | Industrial | i have nothing to add :P |
| 22:54.16 | Industrial | zenzelezz: post it :> |
| 22:55.06 | cladhaire | twitch |
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| 23:04.53 | ckknight | lol, Kaso |
| 23:05.05 | Kaso | :> |
| 23:05.20 | ckknight | teen-blowjob-fuck-03.wmv ftw. |
| 23:06.25 | Thunder_Child | nice ck |
| 23:06.43 | Thunder_Child | real nice.... |
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| 23:11.33 | InterSlayer | Anyone have a link to that program someone made that convers all your table iterators? :P |
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| 23:12.36 | cladhaire | InterSlayer: AnduinLothar has one on WoWi I believe. |
| 23:13.09 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5498-Update_Lua_5.0_to_5.1.html |
| 23:13.13 | InterSlayer | aha thanks |
| 23:13.25 | InterSlayer | try try tinkering with titanpanel |
| 23:13.27 | InterSlayer | er gonna try |
| 23:15.04 | InterSlayer | bew its per file |
| 23:15.31 | cladhaire | .. |
| 23:15.38 | InterSlayer | yea yea lol |
| 23:15.39 | cladhaire | run it on multiple files |
| 23:16.28 | ckknight | ew, InterSlayer |
| 23:16.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:16.36 | InterSlayer | Hullo! |
| 23:16.43 | ckknight | (I'm the author of FuBar) |
| 23:17.07 | InterSlayer | You got called out in that mod that traces taints. |
| 23:17.19 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 23:17.30 | ckknight | what mod is this? |
| 23:17.38 | InterSlayer | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5531-Taint_Mapper.html |
| 23:17.40 | InterSlayer | taint mapper |
| 23:17.46 | InterSlayer | then he uses your mod as an example to map taints haha |
| 23:17.47 | ckknight | I only know that AceComm-2.0 taints the command line |
| 23:18.23 | Iriel | I call bullshit on: Because profiling the whole global scope recursively in one run will crash WoW, it is done in steps. |
| 23:18.23 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 23:18.37 | cladhaire | Iriel: I was just reading that =) |
| 23:18.41 | Iriel | If you crash wow you're being careless |
| 23:19.14 | cladhaire | Taint Mapper is just a fun name |
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| 23:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | they should call it blight or something |
| 23:20.12 | Gryphen | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5501-1-fix-addons-for-lua-51-burning-crusade.html |
| 23:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean, come on, taint |
| 23:20.22 | InterSlayer | i would have gone with Unclean. |
| 23:20.23 | cladhaire | Gryphen: No, that's an executable. |
| 23:20.30 | Iriel | taint is a 'standard' term for it |
| 23:20.32 | ckknight | note: the taint is the area between the anus and the scrotum. |
| 23:20.32 | cladhaire | unless I have source.. i woudln't even link that here. |
| 23:20.58 | Gryphen | Yeah, there are lots of executables on the internet |
| 23:21.04 | Gryphen | Funny things |
| 23:21.05 | InterSlayer | I'll risk it! |
| 23:21.29 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
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| 23:25.49 | ckknight | taint is fine with me |
| 23:28.02 | Guillotine | If you don't want to use an executable, Anduin's lua script is up on WoWI. Now if I could just figure out how to run a lua script... |
| 23:28.19 | cladhaire | lua script.lua args |
| 23:28.42 | cladhaire | if you need a standalone interpreter, you can grab them here: http://dump.brokendreams.net/files/lua.zip |
| 23:28.47 | cladhaire | but that's just another exectutable. |
| 23:28.52 | cladhaire | but that one's from me =) |
| 23:29.02 | InterSlayer | i declare shenanagins. |
| 23:29.07 | InterSlayer | ! |
| 23:29.34 | Guillotine | Cladhaire: is that 5.1 or 5.0? |
| 23:30.08 | cladhaire | since it was asked, that's 5.1 with the same compat switches as Blizzard. |
| 23:30.19 | cladhaire | it also has strsplit and strjoin written in c and compiled directly in |
| 23:32.30 | InterSlayer | hooray CastingBarFlash is a nil value |
| 23:32.35 | Guillotine | I get stdin:1: '=' expected near 'updateLua_5o1' for anduin's script :( I don't think I'm doing it correctly |
| 23:32.49 | cladhaire | Guillotine: gimme a sec, i'll take a look |
| 23:33.54 | cladhaire | using my .exe and updateLUa5.1.lua from the wowi zip, it works fine for me. |
| 23:34.04 | cladhaire | looks like you typed the filename wrong. |
| 23:34.16 | Guillotine | I changed it |
| 23:34.19 | cladhaire | lua.exe updateLua_5.1.lua |
| 23:34.25 | Guillotine | ahh, lua.exe |
| 23:34.31 | cladhaire | nah |
| 23:34.34 | cladhaire | shouldn't make a difference. |
| 23:34.39 | Guillotine | no, still does it |
| 23:34.47 | cladhaire | whats the error message? |
| 23:35.00 | Guillotine | stdin:1: '=' expected near 'updateLua_5o1' |
| 23:35.08 | cladhaire | that's not even getting ot the script. |
| 23:35.16 | cladhaire | just type lua |
| 23:35.17 | Kirkburn | Woah ... to all intents and purposes, I have just hit 200,000 ClearFont downloads :O |
| 23:35.22 | cladhaire | see if you get the 5.1.1 prompt. |
| 23:35.40 | Guillotine | it just says ">>" |
| 23:35.47 | cladhaire | whats the header say |
| 23:35.52 | cladhaire | the stuff it prints right when you type it. |
| 23:36.11 | Guillotine | maybe I did this wrong... I double clicked on lua.exe. should I be doing this from command prompt? |
| 23:36.18 | cladhaire | should show: Lua 5.1.1 Copyright (C) 1994-2006 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 23:36.20 | cladhaire | > |
| 23:36.32 | Guillotine | ya, shows that |
| 23:36.44 | cladhaire | yes you should. |
| 23:36.59 | cladhaire | sorry, i thought i specifed that |
| 23:39.32 | Guillotine | there we go :) ty much |
| 23:40.17 | cladhaire | np |
| 23:40.26 | cladhaire | I just don't think about it.. i do a lot of shell scripting in lua at work |
| 23:45.31 | Kaso | ive been working with the lua standalone alot recently, i missed Devtools Dumo so much i edited it to work in standalone :> |
| 23:45.40 | cladhaire | heh |
| 23:46.11 | cladhaire | thats a fun idea. |
| 23:47.00 | Kaso | there was only a handful wow api references. |
| 23:47.49 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 23:47.57 | cladhaire | it'd be fun to write in C |
| 23:48.03 | cladhaire | i like the lua c api |
| 23:53.49 | ckknight | ah, hell, beta went offline. and I was gonna check things :-( |
| 23:54.36 | InterSlayer | yeah :( |
| 23:56.05 | cladhaire | ckknight: patch |
| 23:56.06 | cladhaire | imo |
| 23:56.12 | ckknight | ooh! |
| 23:56.21 | InterSlayer | oh my |
| 23:56.22 | InterSlayer | they patched? |
| 23:56.25 | ckknight | yea, I'm fixing my libraries' taints. |
| 23:56.41 | cladhaire | InterSlayer: I think its a beta patch.. since it was a shutdown not a restart |
| 23:56.44 | ckknight | I don't like being the example for Tiant Mapper |
| 23:56.48 | InterSlayer | lol |
| 23:56.55 | ckknight | Taint* |
| 23:57.18 | InterSlayer | someone fix titanbar imos! :P |
| 23:57.52 | ckknight | not it. |
| 23:58.00 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:58.11 | ckknight | man, I haven't used Titan since like, February |
| 23:59.23 | InterSlayer | did you have to do anything with the CastingBarFlash frame? |
| 23:59.44 | ckknight | not to my knowledge... |
| 23:59.57 | InterSlayer | thats where i got stuck on titanbar :| |
| 23:59.59 | ckknight | it should just be attached. |
