| 00:03.47 | MentalPower | Guillotine: don't use the beta version on live :) |
| 00:04.03 | Guillotine | MentalPower: I wasn't ;) I was using 1.20 |
| 00:04.15 | Guillotine | I reverted to the previous version and its working |
| 00:04.46 | ckknight | I know you want to come over to the dark side and use Ace2, Guillotine :-P |
| 00:05.06 | Guillotine | ck: its Anduin's TBC addon I'm fixing up for live, not mine ;) |
| 00:05.12 | ckknight | oh |
| 00:05.14 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 00:05.16 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:05.23 | Guillotine | and yes, I'd probably use Ace2 if it was my addon |
| 00:05.37 | ckknight | we just released AceHook-2.1, so you all know |
| 00:05.49 | ckknight | supports all of WoW 2.0's new stuff like hooksecurefunc |
| 00:06.04 | Guillotine | get me a TBC invite and I'll use it ;) |
| 00:06.21 | ckknight | works in normal WoW too :-P |
| 00:06.31 | ckknight | but that's just a backport |
| 00:06.39 | ckknight | it's made for WoW 2.0 specifically |
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| 00:25.42 | Guillotine | are they giving us an extra bank bag slot in TBC? |
| 00:26.34 | Cide | yes |
| 00:26.47 | Guillotine | alright, thats why he had it iterate up to 70 |
| 00:30.29 | Aenslaed | also making bigger bags I think |
| 00:30.33 | Aenslaed | 20slot normal bags |
| 00:31.37 | Thunder_Child | anyone know the cost for the new bag slot? |
| 00:32.00 | Aenslaed | 50g wasn't it? |
| 00:32.01 | zenzelezz | someone in my guild said 25g, but I don't know if they're right |
| 00:32.11 | Aenslaed | it was supposed to be 'cheap' |
| 00:32.19 | Aenslaed | cheaper than the last slot |
| 00:32.28 | Thunder_Child | it's all relitive though |
| 00:32.32 | Maldivia | 10s, 1g, 10g, 25g, 25g, 25g, 25g |
| 00:32.46 | Maldivia | are the new bank slot prices |
| 00:32.47 | zenzelezz | really? |
| 00:32.48 | Aenslaed | thought the last one was more than 25? |
| 00:33.01 | zenzelezz | nice... I might just buy more slots then |
| 00:33.23 | Maldivia | current 1.12 prices: 10s, 1g, 10g, 25g, 50g, 100g |
| 00:33.59 | Thunder_Child | are we going to have the option the change our "backpack" with something bigger? |
| 00:34.07 | Thunder_Child | s/with/for/ |
| 00:34.24 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: well, don't know if it'll stay those prices, but that's how it's like now |
| 00:34.42 | zenzelezz | we'll see soon enough |
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| 00:37.49 | Kirkburn | Aaarrrgghh! I can't run a network game of Red Alert 2 on Vista :/ |
| 00:41.44 | Naurbrannon | little question: if I set a focus how can I get informations if my focus gains a buff/debuff? |
| 00:42.50 | Cide | UNIT_AURA, arg1 == "focus" |
| 00:43.15 | Guillotine | SCORE! BankManager and WearMe working for 1.12 :D |
| 00:43.22 | Naurbrannon | this works for every aura right? can't I chose to parse only one? |
| 00:43.52 | Naurbrannon | I mean...there's no arg2 with aura name :/ |
| 00:45.06 | Maldivia | UNIT_AURA just tells you that an aura has changed on that unit - doesn't include information about which |
| 00:45.33 | Naurbrannon | so there's no way to know if my focus gains a specific debuff? |
| 00:45.43 | Naurbrannon | apart parsing chat but that's subject to range |
| 00:45.49 | Maldivia | beside checking for it, on easy UNIT_AURA arg1 == "focus". no |
| 00:45.57 | Naurbrannon | (and I can't know if it was my focus) |
| 00:46.00 | Maldivia | on every* |
| 00:46.09 | Tuller | unit_aura, unithasbuff(buffname) |
| 00:46.25 | Maldivia | while UnitDebuff("focus", index) do if --[[ blablabla --]] end |
| 00:46.40 | Maldivia | yeah forgot about that |
| 00:46.40 | Naurbrannon | mmm ok....but last time I tried unithasbuff wasn't still working in beta |
| 00:47.04 | Maldivia | if it's not in 6022 build it will be in next |
| 00:47.15 | Naurbrannon | ah ok good news, thanks |
| 00:47.29 | Maldivia | remember, releases are around a week behind development |
| 00:47.50 | Naurbrannon | yeah I didn't knew how old the news was |
| 00:48.01 | Maldivia | relatively new |
| 00:48.57 | Maldivia | so: if event == "UNIT_AURA" and arg1 == "focus" then if not UnitHasDebuff("focus", "Polymorph") then message("Poly broke!") end end |
| 00:51.23 | Naurbrannon | I'm quite happy about the changes, one of the small addons I wrote will get much better because of focus ^^ |
| 00:52.34 | Maldivia | hmm, now that we have an event telling us when people in the raid changes target, do UNIT_HEALTH etc fire for raidXtarget aswell ? |
| 00:53.19 | Cide | don't think so |
| 00:54.14 | Naurbrannon | another little question: time ago I made a very small addon for personal use to cycle warrior stances, like battle->defensive->berserker->battle->... |
| 00:54.15 | Naurbrannon | will this be completely inpossible after expansion or can be done using the secure buttons custom attributes? |
| 00:54.38 | Maldivia | Naurbrannon: still possible, using the secure state templates |
| 00:54.38 | Guillotine | that will still be possible thanks to Iriel :D |
| 00:54.53 | AnduinLothar | Guillotine> you win! |
| 00:55.00 | Naurbrannon | ..who's Iriel? ^_^" |
| 00:55.03 | Guillotine | I'm emailing it over right now :) |
| 00:55.20 | AnduinLothar | i just had the tasteyes dinner, mmmm |
| 00:55.30 | AnduinLothar | tastiest* |
| 00:55.50 | Naurbrannon | ah ok secure state template is "-- self:SetAttribute("harmbutton1", "nuke1");"? |
| 00:56.02 | Maldivia | no |
| 00:56.06 | Naurbrannon | *reading from securetermplates.lua |
| 00:56.27 | Naurbrannon | mmm...any link where I can read about? |
| 00:56.36 | Maldivia | if only the forums were up, I'd refere you to a post... |
| 00:56.44 | Naurbrannon | :/ |
| 00:56.45 | Guillotine | AnduinLothar: You might want to put into the required dependencies Sea and Chronos as it bugs out without either of them |
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| 00:57.32 | AnduinLothar | it does? |
| 00:57.38 | Maldivia | Naurbrannon: might want to check Iriel's test addon, to show some of the state functionality |
| 00:57.40 | Maldivia | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5492-State_Header_Action_Tests.html |
| 00:57.48 | Guillotine | yup. uses Sea.hook functions and uses chronos |
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| 00:58.01 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 00:58.07 | AnduinLothar | just embed SeaHooks |
| 00:58.16 | AnduinLothar | and Sea doesn't use chronos |
| 00:58.20 | Guillotine | sea doesn't |
| 00:58.21 | Guillotine | your addon does |
| 00:58.25 | AnduinLothar | it does? |
| 00:58.37 | Guillotine | line 72 |
| 00:58.38 | AnduinLothar | WearMe? |
| 00:58.43 | Guillotine | no, BankManager |
| 00:58.56 | Guillotine | "Chronos.scheduleByName("UpdateBankManagerMenus", 0.5, BankManager.UpdateBankManager)" |
| 00:58.57 | AnduinLothar | oic |
| 00:59.08 | AnduinLothar | odd, i don't remember coding that |
| 00:59.40 | Guillotine | well its in there :P |
| 01:00.09 | Guillotine | does Sea.hooks require the entire Sea package? |
| 01:01.09 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 01:01.23 | Guillotine | alright, so I'll just embed that |
| 01:01.37 | AnduinLothar | ok.. well i guess you can embed chronos too. forgot about that |
| 01:01.49 | Guillotine | alright |
| 01:02.52 | Guillotine | oh, also, I had an error with Sea 1.20 so I used 1.18 and it worked fine |
| 01:05.58 | AnduinLothar | that's cause 1.20 is beta |
| 01:06.28 | Guillotine | ah, ok |
| 01:06.53 | Guillotine | you might want to change the text then. It says "IMPORTANT: 1.23 and greater are only compatible with the WoW Burning Crusade Beta |
| 01:06.53 | Guillotine | For Live Retail use v1.20" |
| 01:06.59 | AnduinLothar | fixed now |
| 01:07.23 | AnduinLothar | tho 1.20 should work |
| 01:07.32 | Guillotine | gives an error about # being somewhere |
| 01:07.40 | AnduinLothar | bleh |
| 01:07.55 | Maldivia | table.getn(t) vs #t ? |
| 01:08.51 | AnduinLothar | it's hard enough keepign a million things updated. this beta/live stuff is driving my batty |
| 01:09.34 | Naurbrannon | mmm there's also a "SecureStanceActionsTemplate" |
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| 01:09.44 | Kirkburn | What a fun evening ... attempting to get everyone's copy of Red Alert 2 working, then fixing the network settings on every PC, finding that Vista doesn't support it, trying to install it on XP, CD drive not working, attempting to network a CD drive, also failing, copying someone elses RA folder, realising it was unpatched, re-copying said folder .... |
| 01:09.46 | AnduinLothar | so all that trouble converting it. have you used it yet? |
| 01:09.59 | AnduinLothar | yay lan parties |
| 01:10.09 | AnduinLothar | play warcraft3 and ut2k4 |
| 01:11.45 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: considered using a virtual machine ? |
| 01:18.37 | AnduinLothar | Guillotine> v1.21 is 1.12 compat |
| 01:18.41 | AnduinLothar | just uploaded |
| 01:18.50 | AnduinLothar | strait from cosmos |
| 01:18.50 | Guillotine | I see it in your user panel :) still pending though |
| 01:19.04 | AnduinLothar | 1.25 is the newest bc one |
| 01:19.35 | Guillotine | are there any changes to SeaHooks in 1.21 vs. 1.18? |
| 01:19.43 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 01:20.00 | AnduinLothar | Sea.util (SeaHooks v0.7) |
| 01:20.00 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.00 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.37 | Guillotine | alright, so I'll use the new one as soon as Cairenn accepts it |
| 01:20.49 | Cairenn | it's already been approved |
| 01:21.04 | Guillotine | as soon as it appears then :) |
| 01:21.39 | Guillotine | dang, I embedded something wrong :/ now its not working |
| 01:25.34 | Guillotine | all I should have to do to embed them is copy their folders into BankManager folder, put their lua files in the toc and add them as optional dependencies, right? |
| 01:25.35 | AnduinLothar | <!-- Embedable Libs --> |
| 01:25.36 | AnduinLothar | <Include file="Chronos\Chronos.xml"/> |
| 01:25.38 | AnduinLothar | <Include file="WearMe\WearMe.xml"/> |
| 01:25.47 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 01:25.54 | AnduinLothar | oh btw Guillotine, I ported TasteTheNaimbow, cause I <3 it |
| 01:26.03 | Guillotine | :D |
| 01:26.11 | AnduinLothar | nah dont add it to the toc, embed via xml |
| 01:26.13 | Guillotine | ty! now I don't have to do it :P |
| 01:26.27 | Thunder_Child | good mod, we just ahve to work on your naming convetions |
| 01:26.30 | AnduinLothar | it wasn't hard. I have a script to automate the process now |
| 01:27.05 | Guillotine | awesome. are you going to release the script for others to use by any chance? ;) |
| 01:27.13 | AnduinLothar | maybe... |
| 01:27.23 | AnduinLothar | it's in lua 5.0 atm |
| 01:27.33 | AnduinLothar | cause i haven't updated my home installation mainly |
| 01:28.01 | AnduinLothar | spose i could upload both versions |
| 01:29.29 | AnduinLothar | or jsut make it use both |
| 01:31.39 | Guillotine | strange bug. it was working perfectly before, but now that I embedded everything its only transferring one item at a time and giving an error if the item is in a bank bag |
| 01:37.40 | Guillotine | oh ya, may I make a suggestion for BankManager? Let people specify a certain number of clothing to take out/put in. For example, my bank character holds all my twilight pieces. I was only able to put 1 of each into a set |
| 01:39.29 | AnduinLothar | mmm, the functionality's there. it's just dissabled for equippably items i think |
| 01:39.50 | Guillotine | its disabled for items that don't stack I believe |
| 01:41.00 | Guillotine | alright, I'm definately doing something wrong with this embedding. it works when Sea is enabled, but doesn't when it isn't (even though sea is embedded) |
| 01:41.38 | Guillotine | I just copied the folders into the BankManager folder, and put <Include file="SeaHooks\SeaHooks.xml"/> |
| 01:41.38 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.52 | Guillotine | oh, and put both as optional dependencies |
| 01:47.01 | AnduinLothar | Ok, I put up my script |
| 01:47.35 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5498-Update_Lua_5.0_to_5.1.html |
| 01:48.48 | AnduinLothar | Cair I uploaded two versions, one for 5.1 and one for 5.0 but the version numbers don't match |
| 01:48.59 | AnduinLothar | can you change 1.0 to 5.0 and 1.0b to 5.1 ? |
| 01:49.04 | Cairenn | sure |
| 01:49.14 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 01:50.33 | Cairenn | errr, huh? |
| 01:51.23 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 01:51.45 | AnduinLothar | 1.0 is the version in Lua 5.0 and 1.0b is the version in 5.1 |
| 01:51.55 | Cairenn | oh, I see |
| 01:52.01 | AnduinLothar | they're identical except some stupid syntax change with args |
| 01:52.25 | Cairenn | you need to change the file name then, or make one a "plug in" to the other |
| 01:52.37 | Cairenn | the way it currently is, the one overwrote the other |
| 01:52.45 | Cairenn | so the first one is now an "archived" version |
| 01:52.51 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 01:53.00 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 01:53.09 | AnduinLothar | can you delete both files, i'll upload a zip with both |
| 01:53.49 | Cairenn | just delete the archived version and re-upload it with a modified name |
| 01:53.55 | AnduinLothar | k |
| 01:56.18 | AnduinLothar | mreh |
| 01:56.53 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:57.07 | AnduinLothar | i win! |
| 01:57.39 | Cairenn | you happy with the way it is now? |
| 01:57.44 | AnduinLothar | yeah w/e |
| 01:58.16 | AnduinLothar | WTB mind reading hosting software |
| 01:59.33 | AnduinLothar | spose I can dissable the PopupPower plugins... since they implimented bug and suggest windows |
| 01:59.44 | zenzelezz | we'll never see mind reading machinery/software until humans can understand their own actions. |
| 02:00.08 | Thunder_Child | can you crit on a channeled spell? |
| 02:00.25 | Guillotine | nope |
| 02:00.28 | zenzelezz | Your Heavy Runecloth Bandage critically heals you for 500. =D |
| 02:00.32 | Guillotine | at least not with any that I know of |
| 02:01.08 | Thunder_Child | lol, ty |
| 02:02.25 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: I'm pimping it for you: http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=690253&postId=6501214&sid=1#0 |
| 02:03.08 | Guillotine | beta forums are down :( |
| 02:03.13 | Guillotine | Cairenn, I think you broke them |
| 02:03.21 | Cairenn | :( |
| 02:03.29 | Cairenn | regular ones have been down for hours now |
| 02:03.54 | Guillotine | <Include file="SeaHooks\SeaHooks.xml"/> is all I need to put in the xml file to embed it, right? |
| 02:04.09 | AnduinLothar | that link doesn't like me |
| 02:04.14 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 02:04.44 | Guillotine | then why isn't it working :( If I put the SeaHooks folder into my Addons folder, it works. If I try to embed it, it doesn't :/ |
| 02:04.47 | Guillotine | but it gives no errors |
| 02:04.54 | AnduinLothar | it hates you |
| 02:05.05 | Guillotine | :( |
| 02:08.50 | Cairenn | found a link to the full version of the South Park WoW episode, if anyone wants it |
| 02:14.12 | Guillotine | I was severely dissapointed that they didn't go into Stratholme and see "Timmy the Cruel". TIMMAYY! |
| 02:14.43 | Guillotine | woohoo! got it working |
| 02:15.52 | Guillotine | AnduinLother: Should I email it to you or upload it directly to WoWI? |
| 02:18.56 | AnduinLothar | i dunno how the patch thing works on wowi |
| 02:19.10 | Guillotine | I'll just email it to you |
| 02:19.24 | Cairenn | go to the mod in question, under the upload is an option to upload a patch or addon |
| 02:19.35 | Cairenn | real easy |
| 02:19.50 | Maldivia | Cairenn: you're in the beta, right? |
| 02:19.53 | Cairenn | errr, under the download button |
| 02:19.54 | AnduinLothar | does it show both as downloads or jsut archive the current version? |
| 02:19.55 | Cairenn | Maldivia: yes |
| 02:20.07 | Cairenn | it shows up like plug-ins show up |
| 02:20.11 | Cairenn | so seperate |
| 02:20.20 | Maldivia | Can I get you to test, if my changes for one of my addon works correctly? |
| 02:20.30 | Cairenn | Maldivia: sure |
| 02:20.39 | Maldivia | I'll just zip it up |
| 02:21.09 | Maldivia | Cairenn: so far, started with my simple addons, that only require minor tweaks, since I have no way to test myself :| |
| 02:21.13 | Guillotine | its illegal to use those 'sandbox' things for TBC I've heard about, right? Its the only way I can think of to update my addons without a beta invite |
| 02:21.59 | Cairenn | Guillotine: make changes based on what's been published, upload, ask folks to test for you to debug |
| 02:22.29 | Cairenn | Maldivia: *nod* |
| 02:22.39 | Maldivia | Cairenn: http://nerdheaven.dk/~the_real/wow/mod/EnchantMe_BC.zip |
| 02:23.12 | Cairenn | Maldivia: I don't have an enchanter ... |
| 02:23.19 | Maldivia | doesn't matter |
| 02:23.21 | Cairenn | will that matter? |
| 02:23.22 | Cairenn | k |
| 02:23.30 | Guillotine | Cairenn: With the number of small typos I make, it would take far too long. I guess I'll just wait for it to come out. People can easily do without most of my addons and TasteTheNaimbow is rather easy to update |
| 02:23.30 | Maldivia | it's actually meant for non-enchanters :) |
| 02:23.36 | Guillotine | <3 Enchantme |
| 02:23.46 | Maldivia | Cairenn: lists all available enchants, with tooltips for mats etc |
| 02:24.22 | Maldivia | Cairenn: got tired of the constant "what's the mats for this and that enchant" |
| 02:24.28 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 02:24.37 | Maldivia | Cairenn: /eme - to pop up the window with the list |
| 02:25.31 | Maldivia | basically, I'm more or less curious if there are any errors showing the frame, and if any of the items gives errors on hover-over |
| 02:25.50 | Cairenn | at wands so far |
| 02:26.11 | Cairenn | nope, no errors on any hover-overs |
| 02:26.17 | Cairenn | everything looks absolutely fine |
| 02:26.22 | Maldivia | Ok, thanks :) |
| 02:26.25 | Guillotine | AnduinLother: I just sent it through email. You can upload it if you want or I can. Either way |
| 02:26.36 | Cairenn | Maldivia: welcome |
| 02:26.59 | Maldivia | Guillotine: if you like EnchantMe, you'll probably like the BC version, added a "Hide low level" option :) |
| 02:27.14 | Guillotine | nice :D |
| 02:27.18 | zenzelezz | does it hide the low-level people begging for enchants? |
| 02:27.23 | Guillotine | rofl |
| 02:27.28 | Maldivia | unfortunately, no |
| 02:27.49 | Cairenn | forums are back |
| 02:28.34 | Maldivia | Cairenn: I'll add it to the BC section then |
| 02:28.41 | Cairenn | Maldivia: :) |
| 02:32.36 | Cairenn | approved |
| 02:32.39 | Maldivia | Thanks :) |
| 02:32.44 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 02:33.03 | Maldivia | Hope I got all the enchants |
| 02:33.30 | Cairenn | that, I couldn't/didn't check for |
| 02:35.08 | Maldivia | there are some really nice new enchants! |
| 02:35.34 | Guillotine | zenzelezz: finished an extremely complex addon that hides all chat from noobs and shows everybody else's |
| 02:35.35 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.07 | Maldivia | ohh, there's a build in enemy castbar in the default UI now? |
| 02:39.15 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:39.16 | AnduinLothar | target frame, yes |
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| 02:39.20 | AnduinLothar | and world frame |
| 02:39.26 | Guillotine | and it includes when they lose casting time |
| 02:39.36 | Guillotine | I love it, TBC includes all my favorite features of guild wars |
| 02:41.22 | Tain | LIke no monthly fee? |
| 02:41.32 | GremWarsong | Im overwhelmed by all the information regarding the BC interface changes, can anyone answer a few questions? |
| 02:41.47 | Guillotine | Tain: unfortunately they don't include that :( |
| 02:41.53 | Guillotine | GremWarsong: we can try |
| 02:42.40 | GremWarsong | As I understand, CastSpellbyName is protected during combat only? |
| 02:42.56 | Guillotine | it is not really 'protected' at all |
| 02:43.00 | Guillotine | you can always use it |
| 02:43.13 | GremWarsong | I thought they were preventing macros from casting spells for you? |
| 02:43.23 | Guillotine | Heres a simplified version of the changes: http://warcraft-and-you.blogspot.com/2006/10/add-onmacro-lockdown-and-you.html |
| 02:43.35 | Guillotine | Slouken said this was rather accurate in a post a while back :) |
| 02:43.44 | GremWarsong | Cool, thanks, im going to check it out |
| 02:43.49 | zenzelezz | the only reason I wish WoW had no monthly fee is so all those whiners on the forums couldn't use the "I'm paying for this" argument |
| 02:44.32 | Guillotine | heh |
| 02:44.54 | Guillotine | they should just have a 'whiners' section of the forum. All whining posts are moved there |
| 02:45.47 | GremWarsong | Macros and add-ons will still be able to use abilities or target someone, but they will not be able to make a decision about what ability is used |
| 02:45.51 | GremWarsong | I dont understand that comment |
| 02:46.10 | Guillotine | basically, you won't be able to use 'if' statments much with casting spells/targetting during combat |
| 02:46.40 | Guillotine | so you can't have an addon chose who to dispel something on (like decursive does right now) |
| 02:46.41 | GremWarsong | WHAT? |
| 02:46.47 | GremWarsong | Cant use IF statements in combat?? |
| 02:46.58 | Guillotine | only for chosing who to cast or what to cast |
| 02:47.14 | GremWarsong | You cant use IF statements to check debuffs during combat? |
| 02:47.21 | Guillotine | you can |
| 02:47.29 | Maldivia | Grem: and addon or script, that tries to use some for of logic to select a spell or target for you, will no longer work |
| 02:47.31 | Guillotine | but you can't call a spell cast within that statment |
| 02:47.48 | GremWarsong | Im not sure what you mean within that statement |
| 02:47.51 | GremWarsong | Cant you just change a value |
| 02:47.55 | GremWarsong | that it will check later |
| 02:47.57 | GremWarsong | In another loop |
| 02:48.03 | Guillotine | no |
| 02:48.09 | GremWarsong | Why? |
| 02:48.33 | Guillotine | Heres a link to a more in-depth explanation of it all: http://warcraft-and-you.blogspot.com/2006/10/add-onmacro-lockdown-and-you.html |
| 02:48.36 | GremWarsong | if( HasDebuff(Curse) ) then SpellName = "Remove Curse" |
| 02:48.36 | Maldivia | All spells and targeting during combat has to go through the secure templates or via direct slash commands in macros (/cast /target etc) |
| 02:48.37 | Guillotine | whoops. thats the same one |
| 02:48.41 | GremWarsong | and then later, cast the SpellName ? |
| 02:48.43 | Guillotine | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=40F0581E939427F2E4A3D69BD8FE7507?topicId=34224257&sid=1 |
| 02:48.58 | Guillotine | the variable would become 'tainted' |
| 02:49.01 | Maldivia | Grem: Use of CastSpell* in combat are ignored, unless it's from secure code |
| 02:49.27 | GremWarsong | so you cant use CastSpellByName in combat, right? |
| 02:49.36 | Maldivia | not directly, correct |
| 02:49.59 | Maldivia | you can still do macros with: /cast Flash Heal |
| 02:50.08 | Maldivia | but not: /script CastSpellByName("Flash Heal") |
| 02:50.30 | Guillotine | are you sure? |
| 02:50.38 | GremWarsong | Whats the difference? |
| 02:50.47 | Guillotine | you can't use variables with /cast |
| 02:51.14 | Maldivia | the difference: /cast is considered secure, /script is not |
| 02:52.07 | GremWarsong | This is deep stuff |
| 02:52.18 | Guillotine | ya :/ |
| 02:52.25 | GremWarsong | Im assuming there are no viable workarounds? |
| 02:52.47 | Guillotine | kind of. not really |
| 02:53.04 | Maldivia | as for buttons to push ingame (and key bindings etc), are done via secure templates, where you set what spell to cast when not in combat. As soon as you enter combat, the functions to change the spell stop working |
| 02:53.32 | GremWarsong | Right |
| 02:53.37 | Guillotine | you can still do /cast Conflagrate /cast Immolate to cast Conflagrate if its possible, otherwise cast Immolate |
| 02:54.02 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 02:54.12 | Guillotine | but thats pretty much the extent of it |
| 02:54.14 | Maldivia | slouken mentioned, that he would remove the "error message spam" associated with such addons |
| 02:54.33 | Maldivia | you can still do the "Mage I pwn you" macros aswell |
| 02:55.04 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.12 | GremWarsong | "It will also be possible to differentiate between left-click and right-click (up to five mouse buttons, actually) as well as shift-click, alt-click, and control-click." |
| 02:55.23 | GremWarsong | What does that mean? Does that mean you can might a macro to right click your target? |
| 02:55.29 | GremWarsong | *make |
| 02:55.35 | Guillotine | basically so Click-Casting addons will still work |
| 02:55.55 | Maldivia | or rather, that click-casting is now a build-in feature, for addons to enable |
| 02:56.02 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 02:56.30 | AnduinLothar | mmm, almost got my layout back to normal. missign a few dozen addons still... http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/AlmostNormal.jpg |
| 02:57.09 | GremWarsong | So click-casting will work, I thought decursive was a click casting mod? |
| 02:57.29 | Guillotine | no. Decursive is a button-spamming do-it-all-for-you mod |
| 02:57.36 | Guillotine | Clique is a click-casting mod |
| 02:58.06 | Maldivia | AnduinLothar: did the default tooltips for other players change? |
| 02:58.13 | GremWarsong | Hmm |
| 02:58.20 | AnduinLothar | not afaik |
| 02:58.40 | GremWarsong | What does clique do? |
| 02:58.42 | Maldivia | ok, just saw a screenshot that looked like plain BC interface, but with added info |
| 02:58.52 | AnduinLothar | we're trying to convince slouken to add guild tags |
| 02:59.03 | Maldivia | GremWarsong: enables people to bind spells to different mousebuttons and shift/ctrl/alt combinations |
| 02:59.17 | Guillotine | g2g everyone. ttyl :) |
| 02:59.18 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 02:59.25 | GremWarsong | Later Guillotine, thanks for the info! =) |
| 02:59.26 | AnduinLothar | there's a mod that adds item level |
| 02:59.32 | Guillotine | and AnduinLother, I absolutely LOVE BankManager :D |
| 02:59.45 | AnduinLothar | orly? whacha using it for? |
| 02:59.53 | Maldivia | AnduinLothar: well, item level doesn't really apply to players :) |
| 02:59.59 | GremWarsong | Can you /cast specific ranks of a spell? |
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| 03:00.12 | Maldivia | grem, of course: /cast Flash Heal(Rank 4) |
| 03:00.13 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.22 | AnduinLothar | mreh space |
| 03:00.24 | Guillotine | Anduin: I'm a druid. I can now store 3 of my 5 sets of gear in the bank and easily switch :P |
| 03:00.29 | GremWarsong | k |
| 03:00.39 | AnduinLothar | yeah i feal ya i got 10 gazillion sets of gear |
| 03:00.46 | Guillotine | Also, great for my bank character |
| 03:00.46 | GremWarsong | Im still very confused by all this ... |
| 03:01.13 | GremWarsong | Can someone explain one more time when 'CastSpellByName' will be able to be used? |
| 03:01.27 | Maldivia | grem: when you're not in combat |
| 03:01.42 | GremWarsong | But I can use /cast Conflagrate while in combat? |
| 03:01.45 | Maldivia | yes |
| 03:01.53 | GremWarsong | Im very confused as to what the actual difference is =) |
| 03:01.57 | GremWarsong | Its the same thing |
| 03:02.02 | GremWarsong | Except one is 'secure' and one isnt |
| 03:02.04 | GremWarsong | Right? |
| 03:02.05 | malreth | yep |
| 03:02.08 | Maldivia | Blizzard's code can use CastSpellByName in combat, user code cannot |
| 03:02.29 | GremWarsong | But if /cast performs the same operation, why taint CastSpellByName ? |
| 03:03.12 | malreth | you cannot pass a concatenated lua string to /cast |
| 03:03.32 | GremWarsong | Oh, shit |
| 03:03.38 | GremWarsong | You have to manually make a macro for it? |
| 03:03.45 | malreth | hey... don't fucking curse! |
| 03:03.53 | GremWarsong | Damnit, sorry |
| 03:03.58 | malreth | :D |
| 03:03.58 | Maldivia | Grem: what are you trying to do ? |
| 03:04.13 | GremWarsong | Cast numerous spells with a single hotkey |
| 03:04.29 | zenzelezz | "numeous"? |
| 03:04.33 | AnduinLothar | you can do it out of combat |
| 03:04.38 | AnduinLothar | jus tnot in combat |
| 03:04.44 | GremWarsong | Even with /cast ? |
| 03:04.54 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.59 | Maldivia | hmm, can't you use the state template to do that in combat ? |
| 03:05.06 | GremWarsong | But cant you make a script that presses the macro key? |
| 03:05.10 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 03:05.20 | GremWarsong | UI scripts cant press hotkeys? |
| 03:05.24 | AnduinLothar | RunScript is tainted |
| 03:05.25 | Maldivia | nope |
| 03:05.31 | GremWarsong | Omg! |
| 03:05.47 | GremWarsong | Now im starting to understand how this works |
| 03:06.24 | Maldivia | basically, anything that doesn't directly originate from the player actually pressing a hotkey or clicking with the mouse is tainted |
| 03:06.59 | GremWarsong | Well making a button that you keep pressing that figures out what skill to cast is pressing a hotkey |
| 03:07.14 | Maldivia | yes, but you can't change what spell to cast while in combat |
| 03:07.32 | Maldivia | since the SetAttribute function is protected while in combat |
| 03:07.41 | Maldivia | so you can't change the behaviour of the button |
| 03:07.50 | GremWarsong | Hmm |
| 03:08.06 | GremWarsong | What about as far as targetting party members? |
| 03:08.16 | GremWarsong | I understand that hot button stuff now (Thanks!) |
| 03:08.21 | zenzelezz | let's just say you'll have to do your own dirty work to a much greater extent :-p |
| 03:08.41 | Maldivia | you can still target in macros using /target |
| 03:08.53 | Maldivia | which works with both names and units |
| 03:09.15 | Maldivia | likewise the secure buttons can be set to target or assist a specified unit, when you click them |
| 03:09.47 | Maldivia | for instance, the default party unit frames, are secure frames - where there left-click is set to target that unit |
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| 03:13.43 | Maldivia | hmm... I wonder what it would take to get slouken to add an extra case to the secure onclick, elseif type == "targetassist" then if UnitIsUnit(unit, "target") then AssistInit(unit) else TargetUnit(unit) end |
| 03:15.22 | Maldivia | probably with the SpellIsTargeting etc checks first |
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| 04:44.04 | Thunder_Child | anyone dead in here? |
| 04:44.11 | Xuerian | You'd think |
| 04:44.11 | Guillotine | me :( |
| 04:44.45 | Thunder_Child | somehow i knew i would get an answer to that....just goes to show that all coders are sarcastic |
| 04:45.13 | Xuerian | Ya think? |
| 04:45.14 | Xuerian | :p |
| 04:46.15 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 04:46.32 | Thunder_Child | anyone know why the US forums are on the fritz? |
| 04:46.48 | Thunder_Child | and/or an eta on the up time |
| 04:46.52 | Cairenn | they've been futzed most of the day |
| 04:46.59 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 04:47.10 | Cairenn | they ocassionally come back for a few minutes then crap out again |
| 04:47.26 | AnduinLothar | Guillotine> did you actually email it? |
| 04:47.37 | Thunder_Child | hmmm..then did anyone get a chance to see what the new changes were? |
| 04:47.48 | Guillotine | AnduinLother: ya |
| 04:47.56 | AnduinLothar | odd |
| 04:47.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it "bad" of me to want certain addons to die in the expansion, yet grant certain addons rights to live? |
| 04:48.00 | Guillotine | AnduinLothar: karlkfi@cosmosui.org, right? |
| 04:48.06 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 04:48.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, I want KLH Threat Meter to die, but PerfectTargets to live |
| 04:48.16 | AnduinLothar | forwarding must be slow |
| 04:48.45 | Guillotine | I can upload it to my geocities quickly. my bandwith can survive 1 download |
| 04:48.48 | Guillotine | :P |
| 04:48.55 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 04:49.03 | AnduinLothar | long as you aren't in a hury i'm not |
| 04:49.11 | AnduinLothar | did you do anything for ss's? |
| 04:49.17 | Thunder_Child | KLH threatmeater is stupid to me, if you dont know well enough waht pulls agro, you should not be playing |
| 04:49.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That's my point |
| 04:49.26 | Guillotine | not yet :/ |
| 04:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Same with natur enemy cast bars |
| 04:49.39 | AnduinLothar | :D good, you wont be bored |
| 04:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | They're no substitute to learn how to play, but too many people use them that wtay |
| 04:49.50 | Guillotine | kek |
| 04:49.55 | AnduinLothar | ecasting bars is in wow now |
| 04:50.05 | ScytheBlade1 | s/wtay/way/ |
| 04:50.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously? |
| 04:50.22 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 04:50.28 | Thunder_Child | does that mean you can get info on what ppl are casting/have on them if you are NOT targeting them? |
| 04:50.37 | AnduinLothar | sure, make an addon |
| 04:50.50 | AnduinLothar | the info's availible |
| 04:51.01 | Thunder_Child | yes, but i am to lazy to learn lua atm |
| 04:51.04 | Guillotine | Thunder_Child: You won't be able to tell when they lose casting time due to being hit though I believe |
| 04:51.19 | AnduinLothar | sure you will |
| 04:51.22 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine, i dont think that has ever worked |
| 04:51.25 | Guillotine | cool ^_^ |
| 04:51.26 | AnduinLothar | you get events for all units |
| 04:51.30 | ScytheBlade1 | One question about it: does it also effect PvP? |
| 04:51.38 | AnduinLothar | afaik, yes |
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| 04:52.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Timers and everything huh? |
| 04:52.07 | Cairenn | wb ckknight |
| 04:52.23 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:52.27 | Thunder_Child | yo |
| 04:54.17 | Thunder_Child | so you can get casting stats + interuptions, buff/debuffs for all players/enemys around you w/o targeting? |
| 04:55.21 | Thunder_Child | (stats = times and spell + target) |
| 04:59.07 | Guillotine | I doubt you can get buffs from enemy players |
| 04:59.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It's all in the combat log for you to see |
| 04:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | From that point of view, I don't see why not |
| 05:02.10 | Guillotine | it is now? |
| 05:02.17 | Guillotine | anyway, g2g. gn everyone :) |
| 05:02.27 | Thunder_Child | ~night Guillotine |
| 05:02.29 | purl | have a good night, Guillotine |
| 05:02.36 | Guillotine | ty purl |
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| 05:16.12 | Cairenn | well that was a fun little net split |
| 05:16.12 | Dolby-wowi | mmmm banana split |
| 05:16.12 | Xuerian | Indeedy. |
| 05:16.12 | Xuerian | That's rather disturbing. |
| 05:16.12 | Cairenn | hey Dolby-wowi? |
| 05:16.13 | Dolby-wowi | ? |
| 05:16.13 | Cairenn | I think we need to have a chat with our partner-in-crime ... he's currently harassing my mom in beta |
| 05:16.26 | Thunder_Child | excuse me, harassment is perfectly fine |
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| 05:22.12 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar or Gryphon? |
| 05:22.17 | Cairenn | might want to look to your channel |
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| 05:29.59 | TC_blah | can someone kick Thunder_Child so i can rename myself plz |
| 05:30.01 | TC_blah | nvm |
| 05:30.08 | TC_blah | weird |
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| 05:30.38 | [floyd] | A kick won't do ^^ |
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| 05:31.18 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 05:31.41 | TC-Hates-Cairenn | ....that had a vindictive feeling to that kick |
| 05:31.49 | Cairenn | you say so |
| 05:31.59 | TC-Hates-Cairenn | indeed |
| 05:32.15 | TC-Hates-Cairenn | ~evil Cairenn |
| 05:32.32 | TC-Hates-Cairenn | hmmm....that didt work to well |
| 05:32.43 | TC-Hates-Cairenn | s/didt/didn't/ |
| 05:32.48 | [Wobin] | Anyone recall what the page that had the 'frost mage levelling build' on it from the wowforums? |
| 05:33.32 | TC-Hates-Cairenn | thats odd...i see Thunder_child..purl used TC-Hates-Cairenn, which one does everyone else see? |
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| 05:36.07 | [Wobin] | TC-Hates-Cairenn |
| 05:37.49 | TC-Hates-Cairenn | hmm..thanks |
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| 05:58.23 | Cairenn | night guys |
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| 08:19.22 | wereHamster | question: why do I hate blizzard (especially teh webmasters) |
| 08:20.51 | wereHamster | because I just wrote a _very_ long post and ... well, you know what happened *grrr* |
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| 08:27.41 | Mery | yeah that's really annoying in their new forum |
| 08:28.24 | Mery | "Server is busy, please try again" - just hit me too =( |
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| 12:54.02 | Industrial | norgs|away: ping |
| 13:01.24 | Kirkburn | I must say, after last night's games of Red Alert 2, it must have the most arcane and obfuscated network settings of any game I've ever seen :/ Took nigh-on 3 hours to get the game working on 4 PCs |
| 13:02.54 | Kirkburn | I mean, we had to install drivers, fiddle settings, attempt to find the location of the CD key file (since we all used the same one to install), then attempt to work out why some PCs could see some people, but not others, but inconsistently :/ |
| 13:05.30 | Galencia | ah the good old days |
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| 13:32.21 | Industrial | Does spirit tap work in pvp? |
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| 13:34.07 | Galencia | yes |
| 13:34.17 | Galencia | providing the opponent gives honor |
| 13:34.43 | Industrial | k |
| 13:40.26 | Mikma | Galencia: where can i find documents that prove your point? |
| 13:41.23 | Galencia | in my brain |
| 13:41.41 | Mikma | not enough for me :( |
| 14:01.26 | Kirkburn | Some asshole has been deleting addons on ui.worldofwar.net :/ |
| 14:01.42 | Cairenn | mmrh? |
| 14:01.52 | Kirkburn | See the news story: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ |
| 14:02.15 | Kirkburn | I just tried checking on ClearFont, no longer exists |
| 14:02.39 | Cairenn | happy happy joy joy |
| 14:02.52 | Cairenn | they are getting slammed all over the place lately, aren't they? |
| 14:03.27 | Kirkburn | Why do people do it? I just never understand ... |
| 14:03.35 | cladhaire | douchebag |
| 14:03.36 | cladhaire | imo |
| 14:03.48 | Cairenn | me either Kirkburn, me either |
| 14:04.23 | Kirkburn | Let's hope it doesn't happen to you or anyone else :/ |
| 14:04.38 | cladhaire | agreed |
| 14:04.42 | cladhaire | it shouldn't happen to anyone -/ |
| 14:04.52 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:11.54 | DocVanGog | mornin' |
| 14:15.05 | Cairenn | this is what I was referring to when I said they're really getting slammed lately ... http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/articles/view.cfm?AID=228 |
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| 14:15.33 | Cairenn | and now they've got some asshat hacking in and deleting mods? not fun at all |
| 14:18.38 | DocVanGog | Are the unitexistance state changes already implemented in the new stateheader templates? |
| 14:21.06 | Cairenn | btw, you guys see this that AnduinLothar put up last night? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5498-Update_Lua_5.0_to_5.1.html |
| 14:22.05 | Cairenn | DocVanGog: I'm not sure, there are so many things that have been changed lately, I can't keep track of what has already been pushed and what has been announced but not seen yet. Check www.wdn.com |
| 14:22.28 | Cairenn | WRONG addy, heheh |
| 14:22.38 | Cairenn | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 14:22.41 | Cairenn | that one, lol |
| 14:27.16 | DocVanGog | well - i *know* the code that's in - been reading that for two days now and trying to fully understand how to use it. |
| 14:27.44 | DocVanGog | it's just that my test cases don't work and from all I can tell, there's still something missing in the template |
| 14:28.22 | Cairenn | cladhaire: ping? |
| 14:29.00 | cladhaire | sup? |
| 14:29.07 | cladhaire | DocVanGog: You just want a unitexists frame? |
| 14:29.09 | Cairenn | scroll up the last few lines? |
| 14:29.18 | Cairenn | heh, nm |
| 14:35.54 | cladhaire | DocVanGog: http://wowi.pastey.net/1718 |
| 14:35.57 | cladhaire | Thats a unitwatch frame |
| 14:36.30 | cladhaire | if you need to have the same thing in a state frame, you can do it using the extra parameter, but I dont have any basic code to test that at the moment. |
| 14:36.39 | clad|football | shower then football |
| 14:36.40 | clad|football | brb |
| 14:36.41 | clad|football | =) |
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| 14:37.49 | DocVanGog | ooooookay |
| 14:38.22 | DocVanGog | What's that 'RegisterUnitWatch' function doing? ;) |
| 14:39.37 | DocVanGog | basically I had pieced together http://wowi.pastey.net/1717 from the comments in SecureStateHeader.lua - and it doesn't work... |
| 14:41.19 | DocVanGog | but okay - your example is *much* simpler clad, and *it works* :) thanks a lot |
| 14:47.30 | clad|football | =) |
| 14:47.42 | clad|football | Thats a template that Tem wrote to make unit exist frames work nicely =) |
| 14:47.53 | clad|football | see UnitWatch.lua for all the code =) |
| 14:48.18 | clad|football | Cairenn: I CANT FIND MY PANTS!!! WHERE DID YOU PUT THEM!? |
| 14:49.05 | DocVanGogh|work | will this work for incombat showing/hiding target and targettarget frames? ;) |
| 14:49.15 | clad|football | absolutely |
| 14:49.31 | clad|football | inherit from SecureActionButtonTemplate and you can even click on them =) |
| 14:49.40 | clad|football | makes making MainTank frames.. with ToT, ToToT, ToToToT, REALLY easy =) |
| 14:49.58 | Industrial | ahha I fooled you Cairenn, I have no pants on :P |
| 14:50.15 | clad|football | Industrial: oooh secksy. |
| 14:50.26 | DocVanGogh|work | baaaah - this is *SO* easy to use ... |
| 14:50.30 | clad|football | imo she stole your underoos |
| 14:50.31 | clad|football | DocVanGogh|work: =) |
| 14:50.37 | DocVanGogh|work | looks like I'll have a working duf again *g* |
| 14:51.03 | clad|football | the RaidHeader frame works great too, and the party header frame |
| 14:51.10 | clad|football | makes every raid frame awesome. |
| 14:56.39 | DocVanGogh|work | okay - one more question then: secure unit popup menus. Something like this in yet? |
| 14:57.27 | DocVanGogh|work | From what I understand if I set frame.showmenu myself, the function reference is tainted, and as such won't be able to call things like 'PetDismiss' in combat (which I need for my warlock) |
| 14:59.27 | clad|football | correct |
| 14:59.30 | clad|football | for unit popup menus |
| 14:59.34 | clad|football | so they'll need to be done with a stateheader. |
| 14:59.48 | clad|football | and iriel has some examples for that.. i'm goign to try to understand them more this weekend. |
| 15:00.54 | DocVanGogh|work | still, there (at least not yet) a prefefined secure action for pet dimissal |
| 15:01.39 | clad|football | hrm, that's correct |
| 15:01.46 | clad|football | but you can use the built in dropdown for that. |
| 15:02.31 | clad|football | I have to run out to the foosball game.. but I'll be around for most of the night, feel free to toss questinos up on WoWI and I'll answer anything that other peopel don't get to. |
| 15:04.40 | Industrial | bye clad |
| 15:04.44 | Industrial | go get em :D |
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| 15:33.08 | DocVanGogh|work | okay - back to the theme of unitpopups :)= |
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| 16:18.22 | FISKER_Q | krka |
| 16:22.47 | [floyd] | Ok, I've asked this before, but still find it too hard to believe: Whenever you create any object (frame, fontstring, icon, etc.) you have no way of destroying it ever? |
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| 16:23.30 | Xuerian | Right. |
| 16:23.52 | Xuerian | It's destroyed on /reload or login, but that's it |
| 16:25.14 | [floyd] | What a braindead.... 'design'..... |
| 16:25.35 | Tem|Sleep | DocVanGogh|work, if you want UnitWatch to drive state changes you do this: RegisterUnitWatch(frame,true) |
| 16:27.43 | Tem | (now, I'm not 100% sure on this part since I haven't played much with the state engine yet, but I think you need to set the showstates and the unitexistence states on the header itself not on the child |
| 16:27.53 | Tem | , but I could be *very* wrong there) |
| 16:30.32 | Plorkyeran | There really aren't very many situations where you'd want to destroy frames |
| 16:31.01 | Tem | I can't think of a single case where destroying a frame is a good idea |
| 16:32.05 | Plorkyeran | If you're writing a unitframe replacement destroying the default frames instead of just unregistering events for them could save a trivial amount of memory |
| 16:32.19 | Plorkyeran | But it wouldn't really be worth the code |
| 16:42.23 | Tem | suppose the user wants to disable your addon? |
| 16:42.29 | Tem | he is forced to reload |
| 16:42.57 | [floyd] | Ok, great, just ran into an endless loop, and the entire game hangs. To be perfectly precise, since WoW uses DirectInput in exclusive mode, then entire system hangs.... |
| 16:43.29 | Tem | I really like it when addons can disable themselves in game and return all changed functionality to normal without needing to reload |
| 16:45.03 | Plorkyeran | Yeah, one of the things I like about ace is that it encourages that |
| 16:45.17 | Plorkyeran | As unfortunatly most mods don't bother to implement it |
| 16:46.04 | Tem | for some things it's pretty trivial to implement |
| 16:46.11 | Tem | but for others it's truly challenging |
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| 17:58.10 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:03.14 | ckknight | how would one check if a frame is a secure frame? |
| 18:04.22 | Xuerian | Isn't a IsSecureFrame? o.0 |
| 18:05.02 | Mikma | again my game crashed |
| 18:05.09 | Mikma | i'm having thought it's MSBT that does it |
| 18:05.46 | zenzelezz | my MSBT work fine at least |
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| 18:13.33 | yammygirlcoding | afternoon all ! \o |
| 18:13.46 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 18:14.08 | yammygirlcoding | I heard that the expansion will remove all addons. Is that true? |
| 18:15.22 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:15.59 | yammygirlcoding | ah great =) |
| 18:16.08 | yammygirlcoding | I can't imagine wow without addons =) |
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| 20:03.10 | SP|Sorren | anyone around with some knowledge of wowace? (#wowace is asleep) :o |
| 20:03.30 | SP|Sorren | curses. |
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| 20:06.10 | Kirkburn | Aww, don't curse! |
| 20:06.19 | Mery | not that I can answer this... (read it in wowace) but usually answers in this channel may take more than 2 minutes... |
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| 20:55.33 | unsolo | Anyone know how to make a scrollable Text boks ? like the Quest log |
| 20:56.13 | Guillotine | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_scrollable_list_using_FauxScrollFrameTemplate |
| 20:56.36 | unsolo | hmm i have used that one before and the result isnt quite the same |
| 20:56.54 | unsolo | i am not looking for a list but a text box. |
| 20:57.47 | unsolo | not just a text box but a scrollable one |
| 20:58.08 | Xuerian | Look at TinyPad |
| 20:58.29 | Guillotine | use the UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate in inherits I believe |
| 20:58.37 | Guillotine | or just look at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/11205595/FrameXML/QuestFrame.xml |
| 20:58.50 | unsolo | hmm thats a better idea tnx |
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| 21:16.10 | unsolo | no lets se if i got this right ScrollFrame has a scroll Child. |
| 21:16.32 | unsolo | so if i have a huge amount of text i can just put it all inside a scroll child ? |
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| 21:32.15 | unsolo | whats the post equivalent to editbox |
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| 23:13.54 | DocVanGogh|work | Hmm, stupid question, shouldn't protected unitbuttons that are registered by RegisterUnitWatch show/hide themselves even in combat? |
| 23:14.27 | Cairenn | cladhaire: ping? |
| 23:15.46 | DocVanGogh|work | I noticed that in some cases the target & targettarget unitframes I set up, don't actually show themselves... |
| 23:23.10 | cladhaire | Cairenn: whats up |
| 23:23.25 | Cairenn | cladhaire: DocVanGogh|work's questions :p |
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| 23:23.40 | cladhaire | DocVanGogh|work: Do you have the examples? |
| 23:23.53 | cladhaire | I haven't seen one fail yet. |
| 23:25.52 | DocVanGogh|work | well, i just hacked my discord unitframes together to use RegisterUnitWatch and it's _possible_ that there are still some insecure Show/Hide calls in there, but I didn't have a frame for target over several seconds... |
| 23:26.08 | DocVanGogh|work | and from looking at the cde, unitwatch checks every 0.15 seconds for unit existance |
| 23:26.55 | DocVanGogh|work | so even *if* the frame was hidden by some other code, the UnitWatch code should have reshown it 0.15 seconds later ... |
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| 23:35.05 | DocVanGogh|work | but since it usually only happened during pulls of 4+ mobs I cannot really pinpoint any sequence that would make the target frame not show up |
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| 23:37.15 | cladhaire | Hrm |
| 23:37.24 | cladhaire | well i'd say if you'r eworking on a hacked mod, I can't really help you much =) |
| 23:37.29 | cladhaire | since any number of things could be wrong. |
| 23:37.39 | cladhaire | I'd talk to Lozareth and see what his plans are/where he is on the beta version =) |
| 23:38.22 | DocVanGogh|work | I'm pretty confident that the hiding is probably some unsecure legacy code - just wanted to make sure, that the UnitWatch code should *always* show the frame if the unit exists. |
| 23:49.46 | Wobble | ahahaha |
| 23:49.47 | Wobble | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34774860&pageNo=1&sid=1 |
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