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| 00:08.40 | mopos | Good evening. I don't know if this is the right place to ask but do you know any alternatives to hitsmode? |
| 00:09.31 | Cairenn | sure |
| 00:09.37 | Cairenn | check out simple combat log |
| 00:09.44 | Cairenn | sec, getting link |
| 00:09.58 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5008-Simple_Combat_Log.html |
| 00:10.03 | mopos | Thank you sir. |
| 00:10.07 | Cairenn | miss |
| 00:10.10 | Cairenn | and you're welcome |
| 00:10.54 | mopos | Also, do you happen to know if there is an alternative to enemy castbar that will display when for example a warrior is berserkere raged or immune to fear effects? ;) |
| 00:11.51 | Cairenn | someone else will have to field that one |
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| 00:14.24 | mopos | Or can tell me how I make enemy castbar tell me that :)' |
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| 00:15.37 | Cairenn | never used the mod so no idea, sorry |
| 00:17.15 | mopos | I just figured it out myself thanks anyways |
| 00:18.00 | Cairenn | cool |
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| 00:25.14 | mopos | Cairenn, an option list should come up if you type /scl option? |
| 00:25.35 | Cairenn | mopos: don't know, don't actually use it myself, what does the description say? |
| 00:28.38 | Beladona | If you have the latest version of sct, I believe typing in /sct actually brings up the options |
| 00:28.46 | Cairenn | not sct bela |
| 00:29.06 | Beladona | oh |
| 00:29.16 | Cairenn | simple combat log |
| 00:29.17 | Beladona | damn you similar slash commands! |
| 00:30.21 | Cairenn | a) does it show up under the addon button on your character select screen? |
| 00:34.24 | Cairenn | sorry, not trying to be insulting, but the first step to debugging something is always "is it installed properly and is it enabled" |
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| 00:39.39 | JoshBorke | wowo, that nap ROCKED |
| 00:39.47 | JoshBorke | ok, so, who wanst to help my n00b self? |
| 00:39.55 | Cairenn | welcome back Josh |
| 00:40.34 | JoshBorke | thanks Cairenn :-) |
| 00:40.38 | JoshBorke | i feel much better :-) |
| 00:40.52 | Tain | y r my addons not wrk?!!!?? |
| 00:41.11 | Cairenn | Tain: don't make me hurt you |
| 00:41.21 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:41.33 | Tain | :) |
| 00:42.00 | Beladona | Tain: because addons have a built in intelligence check |
| 00:42.06 | Beladona | oh |
| 00:42.16 | mopos | Cairenn, Figured it out :) |
| 00:42.21 | Cairenn | mopos: good |
| 00:42.36 | mopos | 3am, i can go to bed now :) |
| 00:42.39 | Beladona | and actually, if you think about it, that is true. They do have a built-in intelligence check |
| 00:42.43 | Beladona | =D |
| 00:42.51 | mopos | wow it's only 9pm... |
| 00:44.43 | Kirkburn | G'night all |
| 00:44.58 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
| 00:45.03 | Kirkburn | (wow it's only 2 am =) |
| 00:45.16 | Kirkburn | nn! |
| 00:59.13 | cogwheel|Vael | Anyone have BWL-keyed ally priest on shadowsong? XD |
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| 01:43.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | does anyone know if i can rip nurfed apart to just use its combat log? i have the beta version of the combat log from about a year ago, but it keeps stealing my chat focus if i put it in a new window, and i'm hoping the latest version won't :x |
| 01:45.20 | Cairenn | why not snag hitsmode or simple combat log instead? |
| 01:49.29 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.38 | Thunder_Child | s/ot/to/ |
| 01:50.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | because i didnt realize they were similar, cair |
| 01:50.09 | Thunder_Child | does the extra* |
| 01:50.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | heh |
| 01:50.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't think so, thunder |
| 01:50.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | but the hit% is only capped at 5% for a level 60, that puts you at 99% hit, versus a level 61, the cap is 6% i think |
| 01:51.11 | Thunder_Child | ok, then +6% |
| 01:51.31 | Thunder_Child | after you hit the cap does the + to hit translate into + to crit? |
| 01:51.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | at +6% hit, you hit 99% of the time versus a level 60, assuming you're not DWing |
| 01:51.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | nope |
| 01:51.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | as far as i know, it doesn't do anything |
| 01:51.56 | Cairenn | Mr_Rabies: good reason |
| 01:52.30 | Clashen | Thunder_Child, are you dualweilding? |
| 01:52.51 | Clashen | if you're not it's capped at 5% vs lvl60, 8% vs lvl63 |
| 01:53.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | well hits mode hasn't been updated in a very long time, so let's see if SCL has been |
| 01:53.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | 6/2006, eh, not great, but it'll work i assume |
| 01:53.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | some change since, i guess, 1.10 made nurfed's beta log steal chat window focus if it's in a new window |
| 01:53.46 | Clashen | scl works fine for me, apart from the messages that im killing myself |
| 01:54.27 | Beladona | "You should stop hitting yourself in the face!", "You should stop hitting yourself in the face!" |
| 01:54.43 | Beladona | boy that brings back memories from childhood |
| 01:55.59 | Clashen | that's sad |
| 01:59.32 | Beladona | cladhaire: omg |
| 02:00.20 | cladhaire | hahah |
| 02:00.23 | cladhaire | tell me about it. |
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| 02:09.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait |
| 02:09.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | what'd i miss? |
| 02:10.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | or was that just an autocomplete error? :O |
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| 03:45.26 | JoshBorke | nn Cairenn|sleep |
| 03:45.33 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 03:57.16 | Xuerian | 'night |
| 04:06.36 | Thunder_Child | wow outputs messages in the center of the screen at the top, does anyone know of a mod that will let me change where the output is displayed? |
| 04:15.09 | JoshBorke | nn all |
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| 04:28.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | i think you can move it with moveanything |
| 04:28.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's a bit buggy |
| 04:31.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm surprised there arent any replacements for MA |
| 04:32.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | i mean there's mobileframes, but it's not quite like moveanything |
| 04:32.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | you can bind something, move over a frame, hit the binding, and drag/resize it |
| 04:33.26 | Thunder_Child | hmm..does that mean dfm would work? |
| 04:33.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | dfm? |
| 04:34.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | discord frame manager or something? :O |
| 04:34.18 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 04:34.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah modifier |
| 04:34.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | that addon was waaay too advanced for me |
| 04:34.38 | Thunder_Child | really...i use it |
| 04:34.46 | Thunder_Child | good stuff |
| 04:34.56 | Thunder_Child | but it sounds like it can do what i want |
| 04:35.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can tell you the frame name i think |
| 04:36.06 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 04:38.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm |
| 04:38.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i don't see it in Moveanything and the bind isn't working |
| 04:38.51 | Thunder_Child | and it doesnt show with DFM's "frame finder" |
| 04:38.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | Static Popup Frame is what It's calling it |
| 04:39.19 | Thunder_Child | is that the name? |
| 04:39.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno, for certain frames it gives like a long name, like when i use the binding on a button, it does.. |
| 04:40.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | MultiBarRightButton12 |
| 04:41.14 | Thunder_Child | hmm..doesnt seem to work |
| 04:43.14 | Thunder_Child | woot i just crashed wow |
| 04:44.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | lollers |
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| 04:45.26 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: that's Tem's job... |
| 04:45.42 | Tem | not today |
| 04:45.55 | Tem | today my job is to eat yummy food from my grandmother's house |
| 04:45.59 | Thunder_Child | i was subing for Tem |
| 04:45.59 | Tem | and to play wow |
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| 05:02.17 | Thunder_Child | ok, what does this mean? ScriptErrors.Show = function() |
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| 05:16.20 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:17.04 | Thunder_Child | yo |
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| 06:01.13 | Shadowed | apparently hooking ChatFrame_OnEnterPressed wasn't a good idea |
| 06:01.43 | Thunder_Child | did you join todays list of ppl that crashed wow? |
| 06:02.09 | Shadowed | no, i just couldn't reloadui |
| 06:02.18 | Shadowed | had to add it to a macro |
| 06:02.29 | Shadowed | i'll need a 3 letter name before i can crash WoW |
| 06:04.20 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 06:04.50 | ckknight | bam! |
| 06:05.28 | ckknight | why do you need a 3 letter name to crash wow? |
| 06:05.37 | Shadowed | Tem |
| 06:09.30 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:09.33 | MentalPower | tem, slouken's real name and a few others that regularly crash wow have three letter names |
| 06:09.43 | MentalPower | so it was deemed that you needed a three letter name to crash wow |
| 06:10.23 | Thunder_Child | i crashed wow today |
| 06:10.42 | Thunder_Child | the only 3 letter name i have is ass |
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| 06:31.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm... |
| 06:31.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | is it alphamap forcing my battle map to stay open? |
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| 06:43.59 | Corrodias | 2gb of ram is like having a big house |
| 06:44.19 | Corrodias | you can put a horse in the living room without having to move the couch |
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| 06:48.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | why would you put a horse in the living room? |
| 06:48.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | obviously you store horses in the closet unless you're using them |
| 06:48.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | geez |
| 06:48.57 | Thunder_Child | ty random things for keeping me interested |
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| 07:08.10 | Corrodias | come on baby tell me what's the word up, word up |
| 07:10.29 | Thunder_Child | and randomness strikes again, this time in the form of Corrodias |
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| 07:13.03 | MentalPower|ZZzz | night guys |
| 07:13.35 | Thunder_Child | ~night MentalPower|ZZzz |
| 07:13.44 | purl | have a good night, MentalPower|ZZzz |
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| 08:51.01 | Corrodias | this morphvox isn't totally terrible... |
| 08:52.07 | Corrodias | except it seems to have trouble making smooth output. it crackles. maybe that's because i'm running it in a vmware virtual machine, but i kinda doubt it. still, i need to do a field test. |
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| 10:30.09 | ckknight | did :GetScript("thing") change in TBC? |
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| 11:59.21 | JoshBorke | morning Cairenn |
| 12:00.50 | Cairenn | hi JoshBorke |
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| 12:25.16 | Josh_Borke | morning...again :-) |
| 12:26.06 | Cairenn | hi Josh_Borke |
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| 13:20.10 | malreth | hey hey |
| 13:20.34 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 13:20.35 | Cairenn | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/10/bohemian-rhapsody.html |
| 13:21.09 | malreth | does anyone know what the fate was of the "say goodbye to your healers" thread in UI&Macros? |
| 13:21.50 | Cairenn | huh, looks like it just got poofed |
| 13:21.54 | Cairenn | it was there a while ago |
| 13:22.06 | malreth | that's what I figured |
| 13:22.15 | [Ammo] | probably deleted because it was based on rumours and heresay |
| 13:23.15 | malreth | I haven't seen much of our big red friend, either |
| 13:23.23 | malreth | maybe he really did cancel? |
| 13:24.51 | Wobin | who? |
| 13:25.23 | malreth | exactly. |
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| 13:39.51 | Kevorkian | coffee isn't helping, I'm still tired. |
| 13:40.01 | Kevorkian | anybody have some spare amphetamines? |
| 13:40.32 | Galencia | i hear sleep works |
| 13:43.46 | Kevorkian | hah |
| 13:43.51 | Kevorkian | as if I have time for that |
| 13:44.35 | Kevorkian | actually I have plenty of time for that except for the fact that my youngest son believes that 3am is play time |
| 13:44.36 | Galencia | your body will make time, sooner or later ;) |
| 13:45.05 | zenzelezz | true... but if it takes too long, it will make it permanent |
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| 13:45.40 | Kevorkian | galencia: aye, it usually knocks on the door with a nice juicy migraine if I go too long without a decent sleep |
| 13:46.09 | Maldivia | Kevorkian: testing who can keep quiet the longest time is always a funny game ? :) |
| 13:46.35 | moonwolf | no not really |
| 13:46.41 | moonwolf | i keep winning. |
| 13:46.45 | Kevorkian | that only works if he plays |
| 13:46.51 | Maldivia | and yet you keep talking moon :) |
| 13:46.53 | Kevorkian | which he does not |
| 13:47.08 | Maldivia | :) |
| 13:47.23 | moonwolf | see |
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| 14:13.34 | malreth | we had our first attempt against princess huhu last night |
| 14:14.00 | axxo | killed it? |
| 14:14.12 | malreth | sadly no... but got her to 13% |
| 14:14.20 | zenzelezz | I hate her :-| |
| 14:14.21 | Kevorkian | that's a pretty good first attempt |
| 14:14.27 | malreth | we don't seem to have enough NR to keep up with the damage |
| 14:14.51 | malreth | we have 15 people in range with another 5 as a buffer |
| 14:14.56 | axxo | we had alot of trouble with it too |
| 14:15.14 | zenzelezz | we have enough NR usually, but if the DPS is too slow that doesn't save us |
| 14:15.14 | malreth | but once more than 5 people drop, the ranged dps fall like a dress on prom night |
| 14:16.56 | zenzelezz | after the enrage healing almost only goes to assigned groups also |
| 14:17.09 | malreth | the fight seems doable, however. we're much more positive about huhu than we were with sartura |
| 14:19.53 | Maldivia | do sending in pets still work ? |
| 14:20.11 | malreth | it worked for us |
| 14:20.20 | malreth | some of the pets even outlived the hunters |
| 14:20.35 | Galencia | pets dont take poison bolts |
| 14:20.45 | Maldivia | ohh, they fixed that? |
| 14:20.49 | Galencia | they did. |
| 14:20.59 | malreth | oh yeah... they don't |
| 14:21.01 | Galencia | they still take wryvern sting |
| 14:21.02 | Galencia | though |
| 14:21.11 | Maldivia | ok, haven't been at princess since I rerolled :) |
| 14:21.19 | Galencia | and barov peasant callers still work |
| 14:21.25 | Galencia | tho that smells a lot like exploit |
| 14:21.49 | Maldivia | it was nice with 8-10 pets taking a lot of the poison bolts... |
| 14:22.01 | Galencia | im sure it was :D |
| 14:22.06 | Galencia | i bet it was nice when grounding totems worked too.. |
| 14:22.33 | Maldivia | alliance, so no idea about that : |
| 14:22.45 | Galencia | same, but still |
| 14:23.25 | zenzelezz | <Galencia> and barov peasant callers still work <Galencia> tho that smells a lot like exploit <--- I would tend to disagree... unintentional perhaps, but not an exploit. It's up to the developers to ensure only the right entities consume the bolts/stings |
| 14:23.59 | Galencia | zenzelezz: using "unintentional" things for your own gain is the very *definition* of an exploit |
| 14:24.24 | Galencia | just because it isnt fixed yet, doesnt make it any less of an exploit |
| 14:24.42 | zenzelezz | the reason I don't consider it an exploit (unless they say so) is because the peasant caller summons creatures to help you, not just for looks like the pet cats and those |
| 14:24.57 | zenzelezz | by taking a bolt, they do help you |
| 14:25.26 | Galencia | its back to the whole razorgore thing |
| 14:25.36 | Galencia | took them months to fix it, but it was still an exploit from day 1 of people using it |
| 14:25.39 | zenzelezz | I don't know what that was, but my point of view is the same |
| 14:25.47 | Galencia | just because its not punished, doesnt make it right |
| 14:26.12 | zenzelezz | if they tell us it's an exploit I'll have no trouble accepting it |
| 14:26.17 | zenzelezz | until then I don't |
| 14:26.38 | zenzelezz | I sold my peasant caller right after I got it anyhow |
| 14:27.58 | zenzelezz | I know I've heard that before somewhere |
| 14:34.54 | malreth | ~wiki kerafyrm |
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| 14:38.46 | zenzelezz | oh yeah, I remember that thing |
| 14:47.18 | Kevorkian | he's been killed now, but it's a royal pain in the arse |
| 14:57.10 | malreth | hmm... guess I should buy some copper ore now for my FOTM draenei shaman jewelcrafter that i'll be rolling |
| 14:59.01 | krka | also buy some tigerseye and malachite and lesser moonstone |
| 14:59.06 | krka | et.c. |
| 14:59.23 | malreth | can you get those from prospecting? |
| 15:00.20 | malreth | because if people are jacking up the prices for the gems, I might just purchase the ore instead which might still be cheap |
| 15:00.51 | Hexarobi | do people still play EQ? |
| 15:01.37 | malreth | ha! people are auctioning their pre-orders of BC:CE for $1400 |
| 15:02.27 | Hexarobi | haha |
| 15:02.48 | malreth | they don't even have a copy of the game yet... amazing! |
| 15:03.20 | malreth | i should have ordered two copies |
| 15:04.55 | krka | yeah, can get it from prospecting |
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| 15:05.15 | krka | wtf, $1400? |
| 15:05.18 | krka | who's that stupid? |
| 15:05.32 | malreth | okeh... I'll look into the prices of jewels and ores and just buy whatever is cheaper in bulk |
| 15:05.41 | malreth | krka yep... on amazon marketplace |
| 15:05.44 | Galencia | cant people just... preorder it themselves? o_o |
| 15:05.50 | malreth | amazon's sold out |
| 15:06.41 | Galencia | i sincerly hope noone actually goes ahead and buys one of those |
| 15:07.15 | malreth | i should have gotten a second copy and ebayed it for $200... cheaper than everyone else but more than enough to cover the costs of buying two copies and a case of beer |
| 15:07.23 | malreth | oh, and a cake |
| 15:07.25 | malreth | i like cake |
| 15:08.07 | krka | i love lamp |
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| 15:12.02 | malreth | cogwheel: wow burtning crusad u buy $1400 kk |
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| 15:12.16 | cogwheel | zomg like ya |
| 15:12.22 | cogwheel | s/like/liek/ |
| 15:12.28 | Kevorkian | it's funny, the first week BC is out the servers will be totally trashed anyway |
| 15:12.38 | Kevorkian | may as well just preorder and wait for it to come |
| 15:12.45 | malreth | that's why i'm happy that mine will arrive a week after |
| 15:12.54 | malreth | that's what i keep telling myself, anyway |
| 15:12.56 | malreth | :( |
| 15:13.08 | Kevorkian | my wife works at a target and has the early morning opening shift that day. She's gonna snag a copy before it hits the shelves |
| 15:14.21 | cogwheel | We preordered the standard and then upgraded to CE after the announcement |
| 15:14.36 | Kevorkian | what does the CE give ya again? |
| 15:14.44 | cogwheel | Nether whelp :) |
| 15:14.50 | Kevorkian | meh |
| 15:14.55 | malreth | dvd install disk |
| 15:15.08 | Kevorkian | don't have a dvd drive, so that is a moot point |
| 15:15.11 | malreth | a cool looking box |
| 15:15.17 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/collectors.html |
| 15:15.57 | Kevorkian | I eat the boxes after installation to absorb their life force, and frankly they all taste like crappy cardboard |
| 15:16.13 | malreth | if i didn't get BC:CE, the tiny box would look weak next to the big WoW:CE that I have |
| 15:17.34 | cogwheel | Well, we had to get the standard WoW... We started playing in Jan 05 and I swear I bought the last copy in our county... Then when my wife saw the game and had to have a copy, we had to wait about a week for stores to get it in... |
| 15:18.02 | cogwheel | Needless to say, the CE had long since vanished |
| 15:21.33 | cogwheel | XD |
| 15:21.35 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=C942B40364E5A6FF2D5DF46B60FEE019?topicId=32157590&sid=1 |
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| 15:24.27 | malreth | ah... flavor |
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| 15:25.06 | malreth | oh, if only my mage could equip maces |
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| 15:51.42 | Corrodias | so we get a new LFG thing. do we still have a global chat channel? it's the best thing to hit WoW in a while. |
| 15:51.53 | Corrodias | well, *will we have |
| 15:51.59 | malreth | i hope they get rid of the lfg channel |
| 15:52.22 | Corrodias | but you would never have to read it. it wouldn't affect you. |
| 15:52.43 | malreth | if I don't read it, then they should get rid of it. |
| 15:52.50 | malreth | what's so hard to understand? |
| 15:53.07 | Mery | well you don't auto-join it so I assume its gone |
| 15:53.09 | Corrodias | where you come into it at all... because i like it, and i'm more important |
| 15:53.46 | Mery | I just hope the auto join option gets removed |
| 15:53.46 | malreth | ooh! |
| 15:53.58 | Corrodias | i don't care about LFG persay, but a global chat channel that everyone can agree on is a wonderful thing. it even had the added bonus of the occasional argument about whether or not it was appropriate to chat on it. |
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| 15:54.35 | Mery | because well my trys of the LFG system ended in: 2 warrs 2 rogues a mage |
| 15:54.42 | malreth | they should rename it just to General - Global then |
| 15:54.48 | Corrodias | i'd love that. :) |
| 15:54.53 | Mery | and my only "good" group I got was by whispers |
| 15:54.55 | Corrodias | well, i have to zoom to class now. see ya |
| 15:55.15 | Mery | later |
| 15:57.41 | Beladona | LFG chat channel pretty much bcame a recruitment channel in the end. But mostly because there was something like 600+ people in it on a typical night versus the Guild channel's 60 or so |
| 15:57.58 | Beladona | which begs the question why they don't come up with a better way to recruit |
| 15:58.08 | cogwheel | I've actually had relatively decent experiences with the LFG channel.. |
| 15:58.23 | Beladona | it had its uses |
| 15:58.27 | Beladona | and its misuses |
| 15:58.38 | cogwheel | As far as recruitment goes... I think they leave a whole lot wanting about guilds in general |
| 15:58.52 | Beladona | but in the end, the pure need for a way to get a group is met better with the LFG/LFM tool |
| 15:59.04 | Beladona | and can't be misused like LFG channel was |
| 15:59.23 | zenzelezz | the LFG channel itself isn't the problem |
| 15:59.23 | Beladona | yeah, the guild dynamic needs some re-engineering |
| 15:59.32 | zenzelezz | if people recruit selectively for their teams, it works just fine |
| 15:59.46 | cogwheel | I'd like to see something in the visitors center where you can look up different guilds, see who the officers are, etc. |
| 16:00.01 | Beladona | zenzelezz: the problem isn't the channel, correct. But that is like saying a gun isn't a problem |
| 16:00.18 | Beladona | people don't police themselves |
| 16:00.27 | zenzelezz | Beladona: I'm not saying it's perfect, by any means, just that it's not the sole problem :) |
| 16:00.30 | Beladona | and the channel didn't have a way to police it |
| 16:01.29 | Beladona | I do agree they should have a serverwide channel, but not for the purpose of LFG< or anything |
| 16:01.35 | Beladona | just general |
| 16:01.39 | Beladona | and people udnerstand that |
| 16:02.24 | Beladona | and if it bothers someone that JoeChatter is talking about the new Air Jordans he just bought, they can leave the channel |
| 16:03.16 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 16:03.36 | Beladona | candidates for guild revamping though: |
| 16:03.52 | Beladona | guild banks? that act like actual build banks? |
| 16:03.54 | TS|Skrom | I downloaded Moncai's Group finder. I don't even have the LFG channel visible. |
| 16:03.55 | Beladona | lol |
| 16:04.20 | lalla521 | guilds need to be able to declare war to other guilds :P |
| 16:04.30 | Beladona | and sometimes I wish the guild list was organized like Guild Wars, in whiich characters are grouped by account |
| 16:05.22 | Beladona | and then there is the idea of guild instanced "halls" |
| 16:06.04 | Beladona | guild run pvp matches against other guilds (i.e. declaring war, as someone just said) |
| 16:06.32 | lalla521 | real pvp ftw ^^ |
| 16:07.10 | Mery | 12h kazzak pvp grief ftw, you could go to school and when you came back they still weren't done =P |
| 16:07.11 | cogwheel | I think the grouping by account thing is a privacy issue. |
| 16:07.45 | lalla521 | Mery lol |
| 16:08.57 | cogwheel | visitors center in the big towns should be a place where guilds can post recruitment offers (maybe for a fee) and should at least list all the guilds on the realm with some threshhold of people who've been online in the last certain amount of time, along with the names of their members who have invite privileges. |
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| 16:15.25 | Beladona | cogwheel: I have gotten a lot fo recruits from advertising outside the Guild Recruitment channel |
| 16:15.44 | Beladona | most people seem to be "casually" looking |
| 16:16.37 | Beladona | having a system in which players actively pursue guilds tends to exclude that sect of people |
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| 16:17.12 | Beladona | now I do think people should be able to get a "glimpse" of a guild before joining though |
| 16:18.25 | cogwheel | I have no problem with people advertising their guilds in chat, but I think for the people who are serious, a central authority would be nice. It would also be helpful to have a central location where you can contact officers of a guild, say, if one of their members is being a jackass (and the forums aren't always a viable alternative). |
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| 16:20.26 | cogwheel | "would be nice" being the key words... :) |
| 16:20.50 | Kirkburn | Good morning, all! |
| 16:21.24 | Kirkburn | Sleep well ;) |
| 16:21.37 | Maldivia | morning? I just got home from work :) |
| 16:21.46 | Elkano | ~uct |
| 16:22.01 | cogwheel | ~ugt |
| 16:22.03 | purl | it has been said that ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 16:22.06 | Elkano | hmm... seems like I can't even remember 3 chars :/ |
| 16:23.12 | Kirkburn | It's like a ritual, isn't it. Someone says Good Morning. Someone else says "What, it's not morning!". And then we have our third man ugt-ing :) Every day ... and I love it! |
| 16:23.59 | TS|Skrom | Good morning |
| 16:24.02 | cogwheel | And kirk, isn't it like 6pm where you live? |
| 16:24.21 | TS|Skrom | *waits for it* |
| 16:24.37 | Kirkburn | Could be, could be |
| 16:24.50 | Kirkburn | Zomg, it's not morning! It's like 6pm where I am! |
| 16:25.03 | cogwheel | ~uqt |
| 16:25.05 | cogwheel | XD |
| 16:25.08 | TS|Skrom | wheeee |
| 16:25.16 | Kirkburn | hmm... seems like you can't even remember 3 chars :/ |
| 16:26.08 | Kirkburn | Eek |
| 16:26.09 | cogwheel | It's like a ritual, isn't it. Someone says Good Morning. Someone else says "What, it's not morning!". And then we have our third man ugt-ing :) Every day ... and I love it! |
| 16:26.11 | TS|Skrom | I used to tell chicks in high school that if they scratched behind my ear I'd purr |
| 16:26.16 | TS|Skrom | they did, so did I |
| 16:26.19 | Kirkburn | lol cogwheel :P |
| 16:26.51 | Kirkburn | You scratched behind their ears too? Quite an intimate school, was this? |
| 16:27.16 | TS|Skrom | I was the love muffin ^.^ |
| 16:27.23 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 16:27.27 | TS|Skrom | Actually I was that guy that ended up being friends with more girls then guys because I thought the guys in my class were all stupid jocks or stoners |
| 16:27.30 | cogwheel | zomg SS or it didn't happen |
| 16:27.40 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: word |
| 16:27.43 | Kirkburn | TS|Skrom, that sounds kinda familiar |
| 16:28.32 | Kirkburn | Funky news today - the wiki just shot up from 4,000 most popular website to 3,000 today :O |
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| 16:28.58 | TS|Skrom | !! |
| 16:29.39 | cogwheel | by whose measurement? (not cynical... just curious) |
| 16:30.08 | Kirkburn | Alexa |
| 16:30.31 | Kirkburn | Shall link it :) |
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| 16:30.41 | Kirkburn | http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=3m&size=large&compare_sites=&y=t&url=www.wowwiki.com |
| 16:30.47 | Kirkburn | Data after the graph |
| 16:30.57 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 16:31.06 | TS|Skrom | "by whose measurement" that's a rather personal question :P |
| 16:31.32 | Kirkburn | >.< |
| 16:31.53 | Kirkburn | It must be a result of the NDA lifting and beta starting |
| 16:32.39 | cogwheel | I take it the huge spike around new years was from christmas presents? |
| 16:32.56 | TS|Skrom | oh nda is up? I was wondering why allakhazam had BC pictures on front page lol |
| 16:33.11 | Kirkburn | haha |
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| 16:33.31 | Kirkburn | The NDA is completely gone (and according to Thundgot, applies retroactively to alpha content) |
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| 16:34.03 | Beladona | what I heard was anything that is CURRENTLY implemented in ebta is open to be talked about |
| 16:34.18 | Beladona | but past alpha content that didn't make the cut isn't |
| 16:34.29 | cogwheel | Beladona: there are conflicting blue posts on the topic |
| 16:34.34 | Beladona | hmm |
| 16:34.45 | Kirkburn | I would think Beladona's stance sounds more likely |
| 16:34.49 | Beladona | I am going to trust what I was told directly |
| 16:34.52 | Kirkburn | But even Blizz don't know :P |
| 16:34.52 | Beladona | =) |
| 16:35.05 | Kirkburn | Ooh, horses mouth, eh? |
| 16:35.20 | Beladona | meh, more direct than a forum post |
| 16:35.20 | cogwheel | I think drysc said that alpha was still covered by NDA but beta isn't... then eyonix said alpha isn't anymore (it could've been the other way 'round) |
| 16:35.50 | Mery | was the other way 'round |
| 16:35.51 | Beladona | I think there is a tads bit of interpretation involved on the forum CM side |
| 16:36.01 | Kirkburn | Huge spike at New Years, cogwheel? Between December 2005 and Feb 2006 the wiki went from 50,000 rank to about 10,000th :P |
| 16:36.52 | Kirkburn | (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=1y&size=large&compare_sites=&y=t&url=www.wowwiki.com#top) |
| 16:37.40 | Beladona | I guess alexa can't successfully segregate subdomains? |
| 16:37.47 | Kirkburn | I forget when I starting visiting the wiki, it must have been around april |
| 16:37.54 | Beladona | since wdn.wowinterface.com gives me rank for all of wowi |
| 16:37.54 | Kirkburn | Not afaik |
| 16:38.59 | Kirkburn | The screenshot on it is a bit old |
| 16:39.03 | Beladona | I like Google analytics better for that anyway |
| 16:39.05 | Beladona | yeah it is |
| 16:39.56 | Kirkburn | Btw, general news, IE7 is release 2moro |
| 16:40.00 | Kirkburn | *released |
| 16:40.07 | Kirkburn | WMP11 next week |
| 16:40.11 | Beladona | meh |
| 16:40.42 | Kevorkian | I dislike IE |
| 16:40.45 | Beladona | with any luck, it will be adopted enough that I can start using png images without hacks by march |
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| 16:41.29 | Kirkburn | I shan't tell you I have the Office 2007 beta, Vista beta, WMP11 beta, MS Antispyware beta and IE7 beta then? Oh, damn :P |
| 16:41.44 | Kirkburn | Beladona, it will be pushed as an automatic update next month |
| 16:41.48 | Beladona | I know |
| 16:41.54 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 16:42.01 | Kevorkian | kirkburn: I dislike it myself. what you do with it is your perogative |
| 16:42.02 | Kirkburn | Why march? |
| 16:42.44 | Beladona | I usually see global browser change in a few months or so. Regardless of update format. But we will see |
| 16:43.00 | Kirkburn | I know, Kevorkian. It surprises me how much beta stuff I have :p |
| 16:43.28 | Kirkburn | I have FF too, if that helps :P Def upgrading to FF2 when it's final |
| 16:44.05 | tyroney|work | I remember running beta netscape way back in the day. (2.0?) But I sort of shy away from it nowadays. I must be getting old. |
| 16:44.11 | Kirkburn | Hopefully by the year end, most XP installs will have it |
| 16:44.18 | Kevorkian | I did my beta time, I've kicked that habit. I usually just wait for a nice stable release |
| 16:45.07 | Kirkburn | Oh yeah, I make sure to find out whether a beta is stable before use. The IE7 ones have been pretty good on the whole |
| 16:45.35 | Kirkburn | (FF2 B3 is out today, I notice) |
| 16:46.15 | malreth | yep |
| 16:46.20 | Beladona | wdn currently sees 59% Firefox |
| 16:46.27 | Beladona | 34% IE |
| 16:46.29 | malreth | and greasemonkey has been updated to ff2 b3 |
| 16:46.32 | Beladona | 4% Opera |
| 16:46.47 | Beladona | and some small numbers in Mozilla and Camino |
| 16:46.53 | Gryphen | <TS|Skrom> "by whose measurement"; I belive they get their most of their ratings by people who use their toolbar.... |
| 16:47.04 | Kirkburn | If anyone had ANY doubt about Mikk's insanity, scroll to the bottom of his talk page: http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Mikk |
| 16:47.09 | Beladona | specifically in IE, it is 84% IE6, and 15% IE7 |
| 16:47.27 | Kirkburn | 15% already? Good sign |
| 16:47.41 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 16:48.23 | Beladona | 14% with Firefox 2.0 |
| 16:48.37 | Beladona | and 74% of Firefox is of course 1.5.0.7 |
| 16:49.04 | Kirkburn | Similar take-ups within both camps, intriguing |
| 16:49.33 | Beladona | similar percentages, yeah that is neat |
| 16:49.46 | Kirkburn | Quite possibily many of them are overlaps of course |
| 16:49.51 | Beladona | although globally FF has more |
| 16:49.56 | Kirkburn | true |
| 16:50.09 | Gryphen | "Alexa's traffic rankings are based on the usage patterns of Alexa Toolbar users over a rolling 3 month period." |
| 16:50.29 | Beladona | 91% of my windows users are on Windows XP |
| 16:50.41 | Beladona | thats a goo sign for the possiblity of IE7 upgrades |
| 16:50.44 | Beladona | good* |
| 16:51.01 | Beladona | ooh hey, I have browser + OS combination stats |
| 16:51.04 | Kirkburn | Yes indeedy |
| 16:51.04 | Beladona | =D |
| 16:51.17 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, I had wondered how they collected it |
| 16:51.30 | Kirkburn | That explains why it doesn't have numbers of hits |
| 16:51.41 | Beladona | it looks like every single IE user on my site is using Windows XP |
| 16:51.43 | Gryphen | Anyone who uses Alexa toolbar isn't exactly high quality traffic :D |
| 16:51.51 | Kirkburn | Shush, you :P |
| 16:52.19 | JoshBorke | lo |
| 16:52.28 | Gryphen | I'd rather have a high rating on Alexa in that regard lolz |
| 16:52.31 | JoshBorke | i can't seem to type more than one instance of every letter... |
| 16:52.32 | Beladona | I have a whopping 15 unique Windows 2000 users |
| 16:52.42 | Beladona | but they use firefox |
| 16:52.49 | cogwheel | I think I know who one of them is... |
| 16:52.50 | cogwheel | :P |
| 16:53.07 | Beladona | lol |
| 16:53.21 | cogwheel | (though i can't remember his name XD ) |
| 16:53.28 | JoshBorke | lo |
| 16:53.59 | Beladona | 8 Opera 9.0.1, and 8 Opera 8.0.2 users. Both Windows XP -- coincidence? or upgraders? LOL |
| 16:54.17 | Beladona | Opera 9.0.2, sorry, not 8.0.2 |
| 16:55.09 | Beladona | who the heck here is visiting wdn on Windows Server 2003? |
| 16:55.14 | Gryphen | cosmosui.org = 57.20% IE, 35.60% FF |
| 16:55.14 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 16:55.27 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 16:55.47 | cogwheel | ... interesting... |
| 16:56.07 | Kirkburn | It reflects how cosmos is the 'first stop' UI solution |
| 16:56.07 | Beladona | wow, cosmos has reverse population density of myself |
| 16:56.10 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 16:56.18 | Beladona | was gonna say something along those lines |
| 16:57.11 | Beladona | if you guys haven't used google analytics. You shoudl try it |
| 16:57.13 | Kirkburn | TIme to check my websites now, then :) |
| 16:57.15 | Beladona | all I can say is wow |
| 16:57.28 | Kirkburn | I keep meaning to! |
| 16:57.29 | Gryphen | been using analytics since day 1 :D |
| 16:57.51 | Beladona | I love how you can select any week, and get detailed analysis of increases or decreses in statistics based on another week |
| 16:58.37 | Gryphen | 64.35% en-us |
| 16:59.23 | Kirkburn | C'mon, Google, send me an email! |
| 16:59.31 | Beladona | 1.47% of my traffic is from wowwiki |
| 16:59.43 | Beladona | 97.47% is direct |
| 16:59.49 | Beladona | get to work wowwiki! |
| 17:00.26 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 17:00.29 | Beladona | they beat out everyone else though for referrals |
| 17:00.34 | Gryphen | 1.83% for cos, 14.31% from thottbot |
| 17:00.41 | Kirkburn | Well find somewhere else to link it! |
| 17:00.56 | Beladona | there are only so many sites you can link wdn |
| 17:01.02 | Beladona | well, and be on-topic anyway |
| 17:01.21 | Kirkburn | I still get about 400 hits a day - and this is well over a month since I made any kind of website/addon update |
| 17:01.23 | Gryphen | i wish g-anaytics had better referral tracking, im used to sitemeters |
| 17:01.25 | Beladona | I get it from wowwiki, wowinterface, official forums (both us, and europe) |
| 17:01.45 | Beladona | the Geo Map Overlay is fun |
| 17:01.58 | Kirkburn | My referrals are unsurprising, CG, Worldofwar and WoWI |
| 17:02.06 | Beladona | especially when you see people from like Vietnam visiting |
| 17:02.08 | Kirkburn | And google |
| 17:02.29 | Beladona | I have 2 people in Shanghai |
| 17:02.38 | Kirkburn | wowwiki.com comes in in referalls behind even google.de |
| 17:03.14 | Kirkburn | I get google referalls from Hong Kong, Singapore ... |
| 17:03.24 | Kirkburn | It's such an international world :) |
| 17:03.39 | Beladona | 36 dialup users on wdn? uhh |
| 17:04.02 | Kirkburn | You can tell even that? |
| 17:04.07 | Beladona | yeah |
| 17:04.15 | Beladona | 78% is Cable/DSL |
| 17:04.22 | Beladona | 9.23% is Corporate |
| 17:04.30 | Beladona | you bad, bad work-surfers! |
| 17:04.37 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 17:04.47 | cogwheel | Beladona: are you not at work right now? |
| 17:04.51 | Beladona | shhh |
| 17:04.55 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 17:05.07 | Kirkburn | ClearFont - 52% Mozilla, 33% IE |
| 17:05.41 | Kirkburn | Lol, my hit from trying out my site on my mobile shows! "WAP Mobile, 0.02%" |
| 17:06.38 | Kirkburn | I should sort out my BC beta for ClearFont later |
| 17:13.02 | Kirkburn | Interesting post about the length of BC dungeons - http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/beta/291776.htm. Apparently most are about 1hr-1:30 |
| 17:13.16 | Beladona | I like them |
| 17:13.44 | Beladona | they did a good job of making them just long enough, without making you go "OMGCANCELMYSCHEDULEFORTHENEXT8HOURS" |
| 17:13.51 | Kevorkian | I like short |
| 17:13.54 | Mery | yeah they are just the right length |
| 17:14.03 | Kevorkian | if you have a lot of time you can do 2 or 3, if not you can just do 1 |
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| 17:14.24 | Beladona | they also did a good job of doing multi-tier dungeons |
| 17:14.30 | zenzelezz | hm... looks like I'll have time to reinstall VC++ and stuff tomorrow |
| 17:14.41 | zenzelezz | my server will be having a 36-hour maintenance :-| |
| 17:14.46 | Beladona | like several wings |
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| 17:16.56 | Kirkburn | Sounds excellent, Beladona |
| 17:17.19 | JoshBorke | i can't wait |
| 17:18.14 | lalla521 | hm |
| 17:18.27 | lalla521 | and what about end game raids |
| 17:18.40 | lalla521 | i dont think they will be 1-1.30 h runs |
| 17:19.25 | Kirkburn | Ooh, escape artist is now instant cast? Happy gnomes! |
| 17:19.44 | Kirkburn | Kharazan is maaaasssive, apparently |
| 17:20.00 | JoshBorke | yea, it should be coming out soon, shouldn't it? |
| 17:20.11 | Beladona | what? |
| 17:20.15 | Beladona | BC? |
| 17:20.20 | JoshBorke | kharazan |
| 17:20.21 | JoshBorke | for testing |
| 17:20.29 | Beladona | oh, yeah I hope so |
| 17:21.49 | Kirkburn | Is this wallpaper not AWESOME? http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5704/magicwallpaperhl2.jpg |
| 17:22.21 | JoshBorke | lo |
| 17:22.27 | Kirkburn | (source: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=47015048&pageNo=1&sid=1#0) |
| 17:22.46 | cogwheel | too low rez |
| 17:25.13 | Kirkburn | complainer :/ |
| 17:25.38 | TS|Skrom | I like it, it's funny yet topical. |
| 17:25.42 | TS|Skrom | It has a beat, I could dance to it |
| 17:26.23 | nevcairiel | its a weird rezz, 1280x768 |
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| 17:26.46 | Kirkburn | Well, this laptop has 1440x900 :P |
| 17:27.07 | TS|Skrom | I'm running at 1280x800 not far off |
| 17:27.22 | TS|Skrom | center it on a black background and you'd never notice |
| 17:27.54 | Elkano | Kirkburn: http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1381/1155156865222gb4.jpg ( /me runs... ) |
| 17:28.04 | TS|Skrom | nice |
| 17:28.14 | TS|Skrom | that ones going in the archive |
| 17:28.28 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 17:30.47 | Kirkburn | Cripes, the laptop battery thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger |
| 17:31.15 | Kirkburn | Toshiba, Dell, Lenovo, Apple and now Sony are recalling them |
| 17:31.30 | Kirkburn | (I wondered when Sony would get around to recalling their own batteries) |
| 17:31.42 | Beladona | Sony is just getting it from all directions lately |
| 17:34.30 | cogwheel | Kirkburn: afaik, sony made all those batteries... |
| 17:34.38 | Kirkburn | Indeed they did |
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| 17:41.28 | Kirkburn | God, it's absolutely crazy on the wiki now, so many pages being updated |
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| 18:04.24 | Gryphen | downtime boredom lol |
| 18:05.24 | End-sleep | indeed |
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| 18:10.26 | koomi | aloha |
| 18:10.48 | malreth | whew! forums are stupid slow. it must be tuesday. |
| 18:10.51 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.25 | tyroney|work | So, how about that sky today? |
| 18:14.43 | Beladona | are there any fairly in-depth screenshots yet for BC? |
| 18:14.52 | Shadowed | should be |
| 18:14.56 | Beladona | trying to tell a friend about some of it, and can't find a good place |
| 18:15.04 | Shadowed | worldofraids maybe? |
| 18:15.20 | Shadowed | Somebody posted frap's of TBC areas in the WoW general forums i believe too |
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| 18:21.28 | Shadowed | Beladona: http://www.emence.com/html/wow/wow_screenshots.htm he may find some of those fraps interesting |
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| 18:23.23 | Gryphen | bunch at http://picasaweb.google.com/alcaras.argentus/AlcarasAlpha1 http://picasaweb.google.com/alcaras.argentus/AlcarasAlpha2 |
| 18:23.31 | Beladona | thanks |
| 18:24.13 | Shadowed | It' |
| 18:24.24 | Shadowed | It's not blizzard if at least one new dungeon doesn't have a 2 headed dog |
| 18:24.35 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:24.58 | Shadowed | which is why nobody likes AQ40, because it doesn't have a 2 headed dog |
| 18:25.11 | nevcairiel | i like aq40 actually |
| 18:25.16 | nevcairiel | killing the thun is fun |
| 18:25.23 | Shadowed | crazy |
| 18:25.38 | Shadowed | AQ40 is only fun for sundering the MT when he gets MCed on emp trash |
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| 18:35.57 | Kaso | anyone seen the Trivia addon? |
| 18:37.32 | Kaso | writing a script to auto-respond with a random time interval is fun :> |
| 18:38.03 | Shadowed | All realms will be down for extended maintenance until approximately 12:30 PM PST. :( |
| 18:39.00 | nevcairiel | only? mine is down till 5 pm .. 5pm thursday .. well will go down this nite. |
| 18:39.14 | Shadowed | updating hardware? |
| 18:39.25 | tyroney|work | I think there should be a Go addon. So that I can continue to pretend that I play the game. |
| 18:39.43 | nevcairiel | we had our real hardware upgrade already, dunno what they do now |
| 18:40.30 | zenzelezz | I'm very scared about tomorrow's 36-hour downtime |
| 18:40.45 | zenzelezz | last time the had extended downtime on my realm we could hardly raid for two weeks afterwards |
| 18:40.57 | nevcairiel | oh :( |
| 18:41.12 | nevcairiel | well we get that 36h as well, so i fear with you |
| 18:41.15 | zenzelezz | they upgraded the hardware then, and apparently some router was faulty |
| 18:42.01 | Mery | anybody know what happens if I jump off hellfire peninsula? gotta spirit rez? |
| 18:42.19 | Shadowed | no |
| 18:42.21 | Shadowed | one way to find out! |
| 18:42.34 | nevcairiel | yeah find out and tell us :) |
| 18:44.16 | Plorkyeran[Away] | Beta seems like a good time to find out :P |
| 18:44.27 | Mery | "Discovered: Twisting Nether" and dead... lol |
| 18:44.42 | Gryphen | account deactivates |
| 18:44.50 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 18:45.06 | Kirkburn | I love that |
| 18:45.25 | Shadowed | so did you have to spirit res! |
| 18:45.28 | Mery | but I didn't get xp for that so it wasn't worth it |
| 18:45.31 | Shadowed | lol |
| 18:45.35 | Kirkburn | I'm guessing there's no air in Warcraft space then :P |
| 18:45.35 | Shadowed | submit a bug |
| 18:45.40 | Mery | well I dunno if I had to because I didn't bother to run back |
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| 18:45.44 | Gryphen | It's like he just disappeared into fat air. |
| 18:46.15 | Beladona | the state of things to come: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=13049860 |
| 18:46.18 | Mikk | Warcraft's first involuntary astronaut ftw? =) |
| 18:46.32 | Beladona | BF2142 has in-game ads, and apparently, they update those ads using "spyware" lol |
| 18:46.51 | Kirkburn | Beladona, I should mention, some of that has been debunked |
| 18:47.02 | Beladona | how so? |
| 18:47.03 | Kirkburn | I saw it earlier ... I'll see if I can find it |
| 18:47.15 | Mery | ingame ads seems to be the big market of the future.. |
| 18:47.17 | Kevorkian | beladona: look at the slashdot article about it and view the comments at level 5 for more info |
| 18:47.24 | Shadowed | "Dispels magic in a 15 yard radius, removing 1 harmful spell from each friendly target and 1 beneficial spell from each enemy target. Affects a maximum of 5 friendly targets and 5 enemy targets. This dispel is potent enough to remove Magic effects that are normally undispellable. " |
| 18:47.52 | Mikk | soul link |
| 18:47.54 | Mikk | of course :-P |
| 18:47.59 | Shadowed | lol |
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| 18:49.14 | Shadowed | sounds like they're trying to give you a reason to use mass dispel |
| 18:51.33 | Kirkburn | Beladona, I'm having no luck :/ |
| 18:51.47 | Kirkburn | Ah, Kevorkian pointed it out |
| 18:52.03 | Beladona | yeah I found it. But there is no hard evidence to support or deny it either |
| 18:52.07 | Kirkburn | Also, Paladin bubbles |
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| 18:59.43 | Beladona | um |
| 18:59.46 | Beladona | hell no? http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-10-16T121700Z_01_N15306116_RTRUKOC_0_US-LIFE-SECONDLIFE-TAX.xml&WTmodLoc=InternetNewsHome_C1_%5bFeed%5d-5 |
| 19:00.37 | Beladona | the IRS and their grubby little fingers can keep their hands off my wow gold |
| 19:00.59 | cogwheel | Beladona: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowi-lounge/20061016.html.gz |
| 19:01.01 | cogwheel | :) |
| 19:01.02 | Kirkburn | It doesn't bear thinking about |
| 19:01.32 | tyroney|work | paladin bubbles - in the whine, make me happy, make me feel fine... |
| 19:02.02 | Beladona | cogwheel: did I mis something? |
| 19:02.14 | Kirkburn | It was alreadty mentioned apparently |
| 19:02.26 | Beladona | meh, so what |
| 19:02.39 | Kirkburn | Ner, ner, we didn't know =) |
| 19:03.06 | Kirkburn | Taxes on virtual money :/ |
| 19:03.39 | cogwheel | Taxes on money :S |
| 19:03.39 | Kirkburn | (well, *really* virtual, unlike ... er ... less virtual finance money) |
| 19:03.55 | Kirkburn | Taxes >.> <.< |
| 19:04.33 | Beladona | see now |
| 19:04.36 | Beladona | technically |
| 19:04.49 | Beladona | if a game allows virtual money to be converted into real-world money |
| 19:04.58 | Beladona | that by law is supposed to be reported as a form of income |
| 19:05.09 | Beladona | in essence, that should solve itself |
| 19:05.11 | cogwheel | It is when they cash out |
| 19:05.42 | cogwheel | they want to start taxing people on the in-game money itself... |
| 19:05.42 | Beladona | so the problem becomes NOT that it isn't being taxed |
| 19:05.42 | ckknight | but what if you invest real money into buying wow gold? write it off as a business expense? |
| 19:05.42 | Beladona | that it isn't being reported |
| 19:05.44 | Beladona | which isn't the game's fault |
| 19:05.46 | Beladona | well, maybe it is |
| 19:06.00 | Beladona | they should probably be reporting it too |
| 19:06.10 | Mery | well aren't you technically not even allowed to buy and sell gold? |
| 19:06.29 | cogwheel | in WoW, yes |
| 19:06.32 | cogwheel | but not in SL |
| 19:06.41 | Mery | ahh |
| 19:07.16 | Beladona | I think they are courting disaster if they think they can do that |
| 19:07.19 | Kirkburn | Remember we're paying for access to WoW, we don't 'own' anything |
| 19:07.45 | cogwheel | In fact, Linden Labs (the people who run SL) operates their own currency exchange |
| 19:07.46 | Beladona | the only thing they should be allowed to touch is any virtual content that can be or is converted from or to real goods |
| 19:08.04 | Kirkburn | Beladona, indeed |
| 19:08.16 | cogwheel | Beladona: that's the thing about SL... Linden Labs gives you complete ownership over anything you create in-game |
| 19:08.21 | Corrodias | for my vote, only "is", and even then i'm not so sure i'm behind it. |
| 19:08.31 | Beladona | and in that case, they aren't touching the virtual goods, they are touching the real goods that were magically "generated" |
| 19:09.00 | cogwheel | I don't think "they" should be "touching" in the first place... but then again, I'm a libertarian :P |
| 19:09.07 | Corrodias | that's not to say i wouldn't be amused if the US government started collecting 10% of all the gold drops |
| 19:09.31 | Beladona | and you know how that would get taken care of? |
| 19:09.54 | Mery | well in that case blizzard can up all gold drops by 10% - and as they couldn't sell it legally they are stuck with digital digits of no worth |
| 19:10.00 | Corrodias | "The rapid emergence of virtual economies has outstripped current tax law in many areas, but there are some clear-cut guidelines that already apply. For example, people who cash out of virtual economies by converting their assets into real-world currencies are required to report their incomes to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service or the tax authority where they live in the real world." |
| 19:10.03 | Corrodias | so there's no problem |
| 19:10.05 | Beladona | MMORPG subscription prices would reflect the "tribute" they have to pay for gold drop rates |
| 19:10.22 | Beladona | which is on top of teh taxes those companies already pay |
| 19:11.02 | Beladona | Corrodias: I agree with that |
| 19:11.20 | Mery | its one of those things that generates alot of publicity as alot of people would be affected - so thats why people love to talk about such things |
| 19:11.21 | Beladona | I don't understand where the question was in the first place, but apparently SOMEONE thinks that isn't enough |
| 19:12.05 | Corrodias | i'm not sure "legalists" think that way |
| 19:12.20 | Corrodias | it could be more like, "we tax things of value. those game items have value. therefore, we have to tax them." |
| 19:12.50 | Beladona | tahts entirely relative though |
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| 19:12.53 | Corrodias | maybe it's just an essential part of their universe that things have to be done because they just are done |
| 19:12.55 | Beladona | my kidney has value |
| 19:12.59 | Beladona | should they tax it? |
| 19:13.30 | Thunder_Child | only if you sell it |
| 19:13.32 | Beladona | everyone has to pee, should they tax us for it? |
| 19:14.17 | Beladona | I could see it if virtual economy had a direct impact on quality of living in the real world |
| 19:14.25 | Corrodias | this new LFG interface thing sounds spiffy, but do you guys know if there will still be a default global chat channel, so everyone can agree on one? |
| 19:14.40 | Beladona | i.e. selling gold, or converting game money to US money |
| 19:15.07 | Beladona | as far as I know, there isn't one currently in beta |
| 19:15.17 | Beladona | so unless that changes, then no |
| 19:15.46 | Corrodias | that makes me a sad panda |
| 19:15.58 | Beladona | depends on what you used it for |
| 19:16.04 | Shadowed | can you enter multiple instances in the LFG interface, or can you only have one group for an instance at a time |
| 19:16.10 | Beladona | multiple |
| 19:16.12 | Mery | imo you cannot "convert" gold in real life money - you can only "pay" someone for the service of farming gold - at least technically |
| 19:16.15 | Shadowed | Beladona: discussing chuck norris |
| 19:16.20 | Beladona | LOL |
| 19:16.42 | Kirkburn | How I used the LFG channel, Part 1, By Kirkburn of Dragonblight EU: I turned it off. |
| 19:16.46 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 19:17.16 | Shadowed | it's not so bad on Icecrown US anymore, but i'm only inside it if i'm looking for an actual group |
| 19:17.30 | Kirkburn | Coming Soon! Part 2, where our protagonist meticulously avoids every turning the LFG channel back on again. |
| 19:18.22 | Corrodias | i, on the other hand, love talking to people. i hope a standard custom chat channel emerges. i'll push for "Global" if nobody else is pushing another, well-named one. |
| 19:18.40 | Beladona | "Serverwide" makes most sense to me |
| 19:18.41 | Kirkburn | Look Out For! Part 3, in which our hero enjoys a LFG-free life full of happiness and love. |
| 19:18.59 | Beladona | and less likely to get confused |
| 19:19.04 | Corrodias | not bad. or realmwide. |
| 19:19.19 | Kirkburn | I onlt really have it off because it spams my chat screen |
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| 19:19.31 | Shadowed | Corrodias you're crazy |
| 19:19.41 | Shadowed | I just hate everyone, it's easier |
| 19:20.20 | Corrodias | i'm one of the uncouth masses. i loves my chat. |
| 19:20.44 | Shadowed | one day of pvping will change that |
| 19:20.56 | Corrodias | i've spent a few days at it. i don't know what you mean by that. |
| 19:21.16 | Shadowed | crazy people |
| 19:22.25 | Beladona | I deal with stupid people every day. I don't tend to want to do it when I get home |
| 19:22.32 | Beladona | =\ |
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| 19:27.23 | Thunder_Child | WARNING: The LFG channel is for LFG's and nothing else, all people talking about NON LFG related things will be shot |
| 19:27.49 | Corrodias | blah blah |
| 19:28.20 | Thunder_Child | well a global chat channel would be fine if it was seperate, i would rather not have to filter out all of the crap ppl say to find a group |
| 19:28.37 | Corrodias | i agree |
| 19:28.54 | Corrodias | and sure, it's easy for us to make chat channels... but it's not so easy to get everyone to agree |
| 19:28.59 | Kaso | http://kasoo.net/img/imgs/tTRXDGTvYRc.jpg , i dont know where thats from in TBC, but i really want it |
| 19:29.09 | Corrodias | if you've seen AV from the horde side, you know what it's like to try to get people to agree on anything |
| 19:29.16 | Thunder_Child | have they put in a way to cancel the LFG? there wasnt one the last time i checked |
| 19:30.00 | Thunder_Child | lol, treese in pvp |
| 19:30.04 | Thunder_Child | trees* |
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| 19:32.39 | Corrodias | i want to be a tree! |
| 19:33.23 | Beladona | that might be an herbalism buff |
| 19:33.36 | Beladona | some herbs will randomly give you buffs now as you pick them |
| 19:33.59 | Thunder_Child | oh, so the person is on drugs and seeing them sels as a tree...makes sense now |
| 19:34.13 | Corrodias | that would make sense if you -eat- the herbs |
| 19:34.21 | Beladona | personally I think some should give you debuffs too |
| 19:34.25 | Beladona | to add more "depth" |
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| 19:34.43 | Corrodias | to picking flowers? >_> |
| 19:34.54 | Thunder_Child | why, nothing bad happens to you when you mine...or skin |
| 19:35.42 | Corrodias | certainly not, at least above-ground mining |
| 19:36.20 | Thunder_Child | so why should you get reamed for picking flowers |
| 19:37.38 | Corrodias | worst i can think of is that you get stung be a bee or hit a thorn |
| 19:38.04 | Corrodias | "bee sting" debuff, -1 max HP for 5 minutes |
| 19:39.50 | Kirkburn | Kaso, Azuremyust Isle, I think |
| 19:39.59 | malreth | doo dee doo... just spent $24,000 dollars |
| 19:40.06 | Josh_Borke | cncdid you get your answer? |
| 19:40.25 | Josh_Borke | bah! |
| 19:40.25 | Thunder_Child | hope it was on a computer mal |
| 19:40.41 | malreth | Thunder_Child: nope... it was on WOW GOLD LOW PRICES!!! |
| 19:40.59 | Thunder_Child | 24,000...doesnt sound so low to me |
| 19:42.45 | malreth | bought 19 computers |
| 19:42.51 | malreth | and 19 monitors |
| 19:42.53 | Kirkburn | Spells and Talents update! Yes! Another! Really! http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/34986069.htm |
| 19:42.56 | Josh_Borke | can i have one? |
| 19:43.00 | malreth | no |
| 19:43.04 | malreth | all mine |
| 19:43.16 | Thunder_Child | that makes only about 12,500 per comp |
| 19:43.26 | Thunder_Child | 1,250* |
| 19:43.29 | Shadowed | rogues have been renamed to "lolurdead" though |
| 19:43.33 | malreth | that's better, Thunder_Child |
| 19:43.40 | Thunder_Child | which means crap for gaming |
| 19:43.42 | Thunder_Child | GG |
| 19:43.46 | malreth | they're not gaming computers |
| 19:43.55 | Thunder_Child | then they are not worth it |
| 19:44.14 | malreth | they're for students to use everyday to look at facebook |
| 19:44.30 | Thunder_Child | facebook? |
| 19:44.42 | malreth | ~google facebook |
| 19:45.13 | malreth | stupid purl |
| 19:45.20 | Thunder_Child | ...howabout i just go goole facebook then |
| 19:45.23 | Kevorkian | ~emulate malreth |
| 19:45.27 | purl | i have yet to find any olsen twin porn... |
| 19:45.34 | Thunder_Child | s/goole/google |
| 19:45.37 | malreth | did I say that? |
| 19:45.47 | Thunder_Child | stupid trailing / |
| 19:45.59 | malreth | it's like myspace |
| 19:46.04 | malreth | but just for college brats |
| 19:46.15 | Kirkburn | <-- like him |
| 19:46.17 | Thunder_Child | thats so sad |
| 19:46.18 | Kevorkian | a "social networking" site for hooking up with hawt folks |
| 19:46.34 | Kirkburn | <-- like him |
| 19:46.38 | malreth | and by 'hooking up' he means 'have sex with' |
| 19:46.53 | Kevorkian | hopefully using securehook functions |
| 19:47.07 | malreth | they're anything but secure |
| 19:47.11 | Kirkburn | <-- like ... uh ... wait ... |
| 19:47.21 | malreth | they're usually not even protected |
| 19:47.32 | Josh_Borke | since when was reckoning proc'd off ANY attack? |
| 19:47.54 | Thunder_Child | ah, so any resulting action is tainted? |
| 19:48.05 | malreth | quite |
| 19:48.09 | malreth | usually in the face |
| 19:48.34 | malreth | why'd it get so quiet? |
| 19:48.45 | Thunder_Child | gee, wonder |
| 19:49.30 | Kirkburn | Why'd they have to go and make me want to visit wow.com on maintenance day :/ |
| 19:50.16 | Kevorkian | not even protected? what are college kids dumber than they used to be? |
| 19:50.29 | Thunder_Child | you tell us? |
| 19:51.23 | Thunder_Child | can someone tell me what this would do? ScriptErrors.Show = function() |
| 19:52.22 | Josh_Borke | Thunder_Child: it would create a function called ScriptErrors.Show |
| 19:53.06 | Thunder_Child | and if that was all that was in a lua file... |
| 19:53.41 | Kevorkian | cats and dogs, living together! mass hysteria! |
| 19:57.12 | malreth | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8745798767533656234&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en |
| 19:58.49 | Corrodias | okay, this "AV voice changer" just blows. morphvox was much more believable. |
| 19:59.07 | Josh_Borke | GUFFAW! WHY IS WOWWIKI SO SLOW WHEN I NEED IT MOST?! |
| 19:59.24 | Kevorkian | because about a bajillion other folks need it most now too |
| 19:59.37 | Josh_Borke | LIES! I AM MOST IMPORTANT! ROAR! |
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| 20:00.46 | Josh_Borke | wow, no wonder FB sucks |
| 20:01.26 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 20:01.39 | malreth | she digs noobs... who knew? |
| 20:01.52 | malreth | guess you're too uber for her |
| 20:10.44 | Corrodias | morphvox has a problem with crackling on sudden volume changes, like if i say "HEY", when i run it in vmware. i need to test it on a computer in one of the labs, or something. |
| 20:12.54 | cogwheel | cladhaire: for some reason, i'm still running an oldish version of PR... do the new ones show a tooltip when you mouse over raid members? |
| 20:13.12 | malreth | i used that morphvox software thing... i set it to the female filter and accidentally turned myself on |
| 20:14.44 | cladhaire | cogwheel: No, no tooltips.. haven't had time to add it |
| 20:17.17 | cogwheel | K. It should be simple enough for me to hack it in :) a simple GameTooltip:SetUnit should be sufficient for my purposes |
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| 20:18.15 | malreth | http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/virtualPA_468x335.jpg |
| 20:18.38 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 20:18.47 | Kirkburn | Does anyone know how Titan Panel does fonts? |
| 20:18.58 | Kirkburn | I'm trying to see what controls them for it |
| 20:20.08 | Kirkburn | The Daily Mail is not a paper I enjoy reading :/ |
| 20:20.36 | Kirkburn | There are few things that make me more angry, in fact |
| 20:20.50 | malreth | just lookit the picture, man |
| 20:21.00 | malreth | chick's got a huuuuuuge... |
| 20:21.04 | Kirkburn | I've seen the article already :P |
| 20:21.13 | malreth | huuuuuuuuge... |
| 20:21.20 | Kirkburn | nose. |
| 20:22.07 | Corrodias | i gotta watch Grease one of these days |
| 20:22.22 | Corrodias | malreth: amusing |
| 20:23.28 | cladhaire | my laptop is faster than my desktop machine at work.. i paid $400 for it. |
| 20:23.46 | Corrodias | but i do know the particular settings to give myself a fine female voice if i so choose. the crackling is unforgivable, though. can't approve of the software if that doesn't clear up outside of vmware |
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| 20:25.57 | Corrodias | [away] @ class |
| 20:26.45 | Esamynn | is the wiki down? |
| 20:27.02 | Esamynn | oh, nm, there it goes, just being really slow |
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| 20:42.55 | Kirkburn | I need font suggestions for ClearFont v20000-1 :) Anyone know any good ones? |
| 20:43.40 | cogwheel | None off the top of my head that are legal to use :P |
| 20:44.40 | Josh_Borke | i like Comic Sans MS ;-) |
| 20:44.53 | Tuller | calibri :P |
| 20:48.44 | `-FISKER_Q | screw legality! |
| 20:49.28 | `-FISKER_Q | perhaps it would be possible to seperate some fonts from eachother |
| 20:49.58 | cogwheel | Kirkburn, you could make it so that users can copy fonts out of their font folder and use whatever they want... |
| 20:50.48 | Kirkburn | cogwheel, that's always been my aim :) |
| 20:51.37 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, I curse for even suggesting that |
| 20:51.50 | Kirkburn | *curse you :) |
| 20:51.59 | Josh_Borke | ;-) |
| 20:52.24 | Josh_Borke | just making sure you're paying attention |
| 20:52.50 | Kirkburn | Tuller, when Vista/Office 2007 is released, I'll probably stick it back in |
| 20:53.09 | Kirkburn | I've found some nice new ones on DaFont, gonna test them later |
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| 20:58.20 | McScott | Hello? |
| 20:58.33 | Cairenn | hi |
| 20:58.40 | Gryphen | heya |
| 20:58.46 | McScott | I have a question about the 10-day trial. |
| 20:59.36 | McScott | If you start one, is there anything to stop you from getting another one after it expires with a different email address? Does it add some type of registry key so that you can't participate in more than one trial on a single computer? |
| 20:59.47 | Cairenn | no idea |
| 21:00.04 | McScott | Anyone else have any idea? |
| 21:00.34 | `-FISKER_Q | Shouldn't be possible for them to do |
| 21:00.45 | cogwheel | I highly doubt they check IP addresses or anything |
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| 21:01.09 | McScott | I 've had that happen before though. |
| 21:01.20 | McScott | Like with trial software. |
| 21:01.38 | `-FISKER_Q | yeah but that's software |
| 21:01.44 | `-FISKER_Q | the trial is just a webpage |
| 21:01.56 | McScott | You're probably right. |
| 21:02.06 | McScott | I bet it's unique to the key they give you. |
| 21:02.12 | McScott | That's cool then. |
| 21:02.17 | cogwheel | Exactly. And it's all handled on their servers |
| 21:02.27 | McScott | Well, going to start my trial now. |
| 21:02.31 | cogwheel | Eventually, you'll get tired of rolling alts over and over :) |
| 21:02.44 | McScott | Wish me luck and pray that I don't get too addicted! |
| 21:02.47 | cogwheel | 'cause you can only get them to level 20 in the trial :) |
| 21:02.56 | Josh_Borke | Good luck McScott :-) |
| 21:03.06 | cogwheel | McScott: why would we pray for that? You will be assimilated. |
| 21:03.12 | McScott | Thanks! |
| 21:03.53 | McScott | I think I can keep myself from getting too sucked in. |
| 21:04.08 | McScott | However, all I have heard were warnings. :-) |
| 21:11.36 | Qshadowp[NS] | lf addon to send all rep gains to chat window :> |
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| 21:30.15 | McScott | What realm do most people play on? |
| 21:30.25 | Kirov | um |
| 21:30.33 | cogwheel | "um" QFT |
| 21:30.36 | zenzelezz | with the number of servers, you can't really say |
| 21:30.46 | cogwheel | it's not worth fretting over |
| 21:30.51 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 21:30.58 | cogwheel | your biggest decision will be what *type* of server. |
| 21:31.01 | Shadowed | figure out what server type you want to play on (PVE, PVP, RP, RPVP ) and then just choose |
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| 21:31.43 | McScott | What are those? |
| 21:31.55 | Kirov | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php |
| 21:32.50 | McScott | I mean, what does PVE, PVP, RP, etc. stand for? |
| 21:33.02 | McScott | PVP looks like Player vs. Player. |
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| 21:33.22 | Cairenn | that would be correct |
| 21:33.24 | zenzelezz | PvP is player versus player, PvE is player versus environment (or mobs, as some other MMOs say) |
| 21:33.33 | zenzelezz | RP is roleplay |
| 21:34.01 | McScott | Can you switch realms at any time? |
| 21:34.12 | zenzelezz | depends what you mean |
| 21:34.24 | Mery | well only under certain rules and only if you pay 25$ per character |
| 21:34.43 | Tain | And only every six months. |
| 21:34.44 | McScott | Can you move a character to a different realm is what I mean. |
| 21:34.51 | Mery | and most importantly you cannot change from PvE to PvP |
| 21:34.52 | zenzelezz | sometimes, for a fee |
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| 21:35.05 | McScott | PVP is the best right? |
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| 21:35.15 | Kirkburn | (it must sound to simple for the uninitiated =) |
| 21:35.15 | zenzelezz | there is no "best" |
| 21:35.17 | zenzelezz | it's all up to what you prefer |
| 21:35.18 | Mery | depends on what you like |
| 21:35.21 | Kirkburn | s/to/so/ |
| 21:35.24 | cogwheel | McScott, whenever worldofwarcraft.com starts working again you should really do some more research |
| 21:35.24 | McScott | It allows you to eventually fight other people. |
| 21:35.35 | cogwheel | I made the wrong choice when I first started out |
| 21:35.41 | zenzelezz | PvP means there are zones where you can be attacked by the enemy faction, PvE means you're safe unless you get PvP flagged |
| 21:35.52 | cogwheel | There's a whole page that explains the difference between the realm types |
| 21:36.07 | McScott | Can you link me to that? |
| 21:36.09 | Kirkburn | I'm a PvE person - I like the 'safety', I guess |
| 21:36.13 | Mery | well I played pve during strsstest and open beta, and well i didn't liked it at all that hordes could dance in front of me |
| 21:36.16 | cogwheel | Luckily, you can have up to 50 characters (10 per realm) |
| 21:36.35 | Mery | so I'll take the hit of getting killed all the time because I'm horrible in PvP |
| 21:36.36 | Kirkburn | McScott, on worldofwarcraft.com, check the links on the left, lots of info there |
| 21:36.49 | Kirkburn | The game manual has lots of stuff, too, of course :) |
| 21:37.55 | Kirkburn | Hallow's End tomorrow! |
| 21:38.20 | zenzelezz | 36-hour downtime tomorrow |
| 21:38.22 | zenzelezz | :-x |
| 21:38.30 | Mery | oh no that filled up all my bags last year =/ |
| 21:40.16 | Kirkburn | "Apple Computer has filed for a trademark on the term iPhone" |
| 21:41.04 | Kirkburn | "Because sticking an 'i' in front of a word is amazingly innovative" |
| 21:41.18 | cogwheel | s/innovative/iNnovative/ |
| 21:41.24 | Kirkburn | (ok, so the second bit was me :P ) |
| 21:41.38 | Kirkburn | (source: http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=35634) |
| 21:41.50 | Kirkburn | Mmm, iChocolate |
| 21:41.52 | Cairenn | well, Potillan is in full swing today |
| 21:42.09 | cogwheel | he must have a shorter route to the blizzard servers than i do :P |
| 21:42.49 | Cairenn | yeah, the forums are being flakey |
| 21:43.07 | Cairenn | beta forums are fine though *confused* |
| 21:43.57 | cogwheel | different hardware, less people trying to access it |
| 21:44.03 | cogwheel | s/less/fewer/ |
| 21:44.17 | Kirkburn | More slouken posts on the 2.0 changes thread |
| 21:45.31 | Kirkburn | Haha, this is appropraite given what I said about Apple :P http://www.funnyanimalblog.com/index.php/funny-cat-videos/cat-riding-on-igallop/ |
| 21:45.49 | Kirkburn | s/whateverthatwordwas/appropriate/ |
| 21:46.20 | McScott | Normal realm looks pretty good. |
| 21:48.55 | Kirkburn | You can have characters on loads of realms, so you can always change :) |
| 21:50.37 | McScott | I'm probably going to dedicate my energy to one character to get to level 60. |
| 21:51.13 | Tain | Really the best thing you can do is find a group of people you enjoy playing with. That's what makes the game fun. |
| 21:51.40 | koomi | McScott: didn't you just start your trail an hour ago? |
| 21:51.44 | koomi | ;) |
| 21:52.01 | McScott | I haven't even started. |
| 21:52.15 | McScott | I'm waiting to find out what realm the people I know are on. |
| 21:52.21 | koomi | lol |
| 21:52.34 | koomi | can't you create more than one char with the trial? |
| 21:55.12 | McScott | I have no idea. |
| 21:55.40 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 21:56.47 | zenzelezz | hm, apparently a guild on my server got Kel'Thuzad to 48% on their second day of trying or something |
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| 22:07.22 | subbawt | bah wowwiki is slow |
| 22:07.36 | cogwheel | so's worldofwarcraft.com... |
| 22:07.41 | cogwheel | and the forums. |
| 22:07.46 | cogwheel | it's always like that on Tuesdays |
| 22:08.00 | subbawt | wowwiki isn't hosted by blizzard is it? |
| 22:08.29 | cogwheel | No, but tuesday has the same effect on website traffic... No game = people looking to occupy their time with game-related websites... |
| 22:08.39 | cogwheel | even GuildPortal.com which isn't WoW-specific isn't immune |
| 22:09.41 | Thunder_Child | well it's only down for parts of the world |
| 22:10.16 | subbawt | i'm trying to write a macro that power infuses my target, and sends them a message, but only if it isn't on cooldown |
| 22:10.18 | Beladona | doesn't matter. Those parts make up a large population of overall wow players |
| 22:10.35 | subbawt | and usually i could do it pretty easily, i would just have to consult wowwiki a lot ;( |
| 22:11.05 | Thunder_Child | i wond what the breakdown of the 7 mill playing is |
| 22:11.13 | Thunder_Child | s/wond/wonder/ |
| 22:11.44 | subbawt | google cache ftw |
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| 22:18.23 | cladhair1 | Mikk: PING |
| 22:26.36 | lalla521 | hm... i wonder how many allys are going to reroll shaman in tbc >_> |
| 22:27.20 | Cairenn | oh, you guys are gonna love these ... will help a lot I'm sure: |
| 22:27.22 | Cairenn | MACRO_ACTION_FORBIDDEN: sent when a macro tries use actions that are always forbidden (movement, targeting, etc.). The first argument is the name of the protected function that was called. |
| 22:27.22 | Cairenn | ADDON_ACTION_FORBIDDEN: sent when an addon tries use actions thatare always forbidden (movement, targeting, etc.). The first argument isthe name of the addon that was last involved in the execution path, andthe second argument is the protected function that was called. |
| 22:27.22 | Cairenn | MACRO_ACTION_BLOCKED: sent when a macro tries use actions that areblocked in combat or require interactive input (spell casting, trading,etc.). The first argument is the name of the protected function thatwas called. |
| 22:27.23 | Cairenn | ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED: sent when an addon tries use actions thatare blocked in combat or require interactive input (spell casting,trading, etc.). The first argument is the name of the addon that waslast involved in the execution path, and the second argument is theprotected function that was called. |
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| 22:29.35 | subbawt | if i want to write a function that can be called from a macro what do i have to do? |
| 22:37.03 | Kameril | as long as the function is global you can do /script FunctionName() |
| 22:37.17 | subbawt | hrm |
| 22:37.32 | subbawt | i added the function to the LUA file and did /console reloadui and it doesn't work |
| 22:37.58 | Kameril | are you certain that lua file is getting loaded? |
| 22:38.22 | subbawt | i think i just had bad syntax in the code |
| 22:38.44 | subbawt | it was converted from a macro, so it didn't have any semicolons |
| 22:39.58 | ckknight | Cairenn, nice |
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| 22:43.18 | lalla521 | hm nice additions |
| 22:43.32 | lalla521 | but let me ask a n00b question |
| 22:43.58 | lalla521 | will hooks also be affected to some kind of "secure" function? |
| 22:46.00 | ckknight | yes, lalla521 |
| 22:46.07 | ckknight | you can use securehook(), though |
| 22:46.41 | lalla521 | hm.. and where can i read new hooks and securehook docs? |
| 22:46.56 | ckknight | around page 8 of the 2.0.0 changes list |
| 22:47.31 | subbawt | is there seriously an event for when a spell cooldown starts but not when it stops? |
| 22:47.31 | lalla521 | k thx :) |
| 22:49.55 | wereHamster | subbawt, yep |
| 22:50.09 | subbawt | ;\ |
| 22:51.19 | wereHamster | why do you need an event if a CD ends? |
| 22:52.02 | subbawt | to notify me that the cooldown is up? |
| 23:01.19 | wereHamster | Josh_Borke, did you see sloukens post about spellcast events? |
| 23:01.40 | cladhaire | wereHamster: *moan* |
| 23:01.49 | cladhaire | imo |
| 23:03.19 | zenzelezz | URL? |
| 23:03.21 | Kirkburn | Woo, I think I just found a new and hopefully not broken default font for me :F |
| 23:04.14 | wereHamster | zenzelezz, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34986345&sid=1 |
| 23:05.01 | Xavalia | does the API provided by blizz set the ItemLink as an type? (such as string or integer) |
| 23:05.11 | zenzelezz | cheers were |
| 23:05.32 | Kirov | itemLink is a string |
| 23:06.09 | Xavalia | meh true >.< |
| 23:06.23 | Xavalia | ok lets see how i gonna check for an item link gonna do :P |
| 23:13.00 | Xavalia | ok that was easy rofl :P |
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| 23:29.18 | Kirkburn | Woah! Really interesting article here : http://www.wowwiki.com/Anatomy_of_a_city:_Silvermoon |
| 23:37.41 | Kirkburn | "Silvermoon City features two auction houses, two banks, two inns, and eleven mailboxes" |
| 23:37.49 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 23:37.51 | Kirkburn | eleven. |
| 23:38.28 | tyroney|work | Finally. |
| 23:38.37 | Thunder_Child | they have started putting more in in standard plases as well |
| 23:38.58 | tyroney|work | Shouldn't that article have some kind of crediting or source or something? |
| 23:38.58 | Thunder_Child | s/plases/places/ |
| 23:39.20 | zenzelezz | think people will discover them, or they will be like that almost-unused mailbox in the military ward in Ironforge? |
| 23:40.08 | Kirkburn | zenzelezz, yer what!? |
| 23:40.26 | Kirkburn | I know the Tinkertown one |
| 23:41.10 | zenzelezz | don't remember exactly where it is, but it's in that area someplace :-p Usually don't venture in that direction, only to flight master or bank/AH |
| 23:41.34 | Kirkburn | "Undercity and Silvermoon City will be linked by a portal located just outside the city walls of the Forsaken capital" |
| 23:42.20 | zenzelezz | do mages get a portal spell for Silvermoon? |
| 23:42.20 | tyroney|work | Those with less ram probably know more obscure mailbox locations. |
| 23:43.44 | Thunder_Child | lol tyroney|work |
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| 23:49.27 | zenzelezz | Kirkburn: http://www.hovlandsdal.com:7080/~zenzelezz/arf.jpg |
| 23:50.08 | Kirkburn | lol, I had no idea ... you had such awesome Paint skillz |
| 23:50.15 | zenzelezz | =D |
| 23:50.29 | Kaso | Im trying to decode that picture |
| 23:50.42 | zenzelezz | and I thought my arrows said it all |
| 23:50.59 | Thunder_Child | the military war mailbox |
| 23:51.05 | Thunder_Child | s/war/ward/ |
| 23:51.19 | zenzelezz | camera is facing west in Ironforge |
| 23:51.32 | zenzelezz | it's right by that inn where the stupid innkeeper won't let you set your hearthstone |
| 23:51.54 | zenzelezz | or there just was no innkeeper... |
| 23:51.59 | Xavalia | ermm |
| 23:52.06 | Xavalia | <Kaso> Im trying to decode that picture <-- same.. |
| 23:52.48 | zenzelezz | doesn't matter, you're not missing anything :-p |
| 23:53.37 | zenzelezz | I'd make a better one, but I'm too lazy to log back in |
| 23:53.44 | Xavalia | .. |
| 23:55.38 | Kirkburn | Yes, I've never understood why they limited it to one hearth location per city |
| 23:55.54 | Kirkburn | Didn't they think about the extreme load they would produce? :/ |
| 23:55.55 | Xavalia | the one in orgimmar is nice at the center of everything |
| 23:56.01 | Xavalia | except the BG that is >.< |
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| 23:59.13 | Thunder_Child | if done correctly having it in one place is easier to manage |
