| 00:21.49 | Silph_ | some one help me out here please |
| 00:21.52 | Silph_ | local texture = getglobal(DUF_FRAME_DATA[unit].frame.."_ClassIcon_Texture"); |
| 00:22.09 | Kaso | whats the problem? |
| 00:22.16 | Silph_ | DUF_FRAME_DATA is a variable, function or frame name? |
| 00:22.40 | Maldivia | ok... time to confess... which flame warrior are you: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm |
| 00:22.44 | Kaso | from what youve posted there, DUF_FRAME_DATA is a table |
| 00:23.42 | Silph_ | well, im trying to change the texture DUF uses to custom ones |
| 00:24.39 | Silph_ | erm..if its a table it will be in a xml file then? |
| 00:25.49 | Kaso | gimme a moment |
| 00:26.24 | Kaso | which file is that code from |
| 00:27.23 | Silph_ | itts present in both DUF_Initialization and DUF_Get |
| 00:33.13 | Kaso | so, um let get this right, you're trying to change the class icons |
| 00:33.58 | Silph_ | yup |
| 00:34.16 | Silph_ | instead of duf loading them from the game i want it to load custom one |
| 00:34.59 | Kaso | texture:SetTexture("Interface\\Glues\\CharacterCreate\\UI-CharacterCreate-Classes"); |
| 00:35.13 | Kaso | find that and change to whichever texture you want |
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| 00:37.35 | Silph_ | in the Get file? |
| 00:39.06 | Kaso | i dont see it in DUF_Get.lua |
| 00:39.38 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: which are you? |
| 00:40.02 | Silph_ | ahh..right right. ty |
| 00:40.41 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child: the Big Cat! |
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| 00:42.11 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 00:42.16 | Thunder_Child | ~pet Maldivia |
| 00:42.17 | purl | ACTION reaches over and pets Maldivia on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!" |
| 00:43.53 | Shadowed | url = purl |
| 00:44.21 | Thunder_Child | meh, it's never to much, i even downloaded purl for myself |
| 00:44.50 | Thunder_Child | but i dont have a perl compiler for windows |
| 00:55.24 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: i dont know which i am but i can tell you that the perv picture is disturbing |
| 00:55.36 | Maldivia | really? |
| 00:55.48 | Thunder_Child | really to which part? |
| 01:00.16 | Kirkburn | There's an NPC called Haris Pilton in the BC :P |
| 01:00.57 | Wobin | Is she a bloodelf? |
| 01:01.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:01.09 | Wobin | With a dog? |
| 01:01.14 | ckknight | that'd be funny. |
| 01:01.20 | Cairenn | there's also Granny Smith, the apple vendor |
| 01:01.33 | Cairenn | and Ofreh Windfury (sp?) |
| 01:01.39 | Thunder_Child | http://www.hitpoints.org/wow_BC_Beta/Screenshots/soqkt.jpg |
| 01:01.49 | ckknight | I'm testing out a Draenei Hunter right now |
| 01:01.54 | ckknight | seems mighty cool |
| 01:02.00 | Shadowed | haha |
| 01:02.44 | Kaso | thats the sword from southpark right? |
| 01:03.03 | Thunder_Child | almoast, the one in south park could drain mana in one hit |
| 01:03.07 | Thunder_Child | all mana* |
| 01:03.42 | Kaso | they couldve given it at least some minor mana burning proc |
| 01:03.55 | Kaso | Chance on Hit: Drain 50 mana :> |
| 01:03.57 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 01:07.23 | ckknight | oh, lol, they made the sword of a thousand truths |
| 01:07.24 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:07.37 | ckknight | yea, they should've made the mana drain |
| 01:07.41 | ckknight | stick true to the legend |
| 01:08.17 | Thunder_Child | and if they already had the weap in game why not make it the same..... |
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| 01:14.15 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:14.22 | ckknight | Language: Draenei, not Language: Eredun |
| 01:14.44 | Thunder_Child | what do the blood elves have? |
| 01:15.59 | ckknight | Thalassian or something |
| 01:16.01 | ckknight | I forget |
| 01:17.34 | Thunder_Child | but not blood elf? |
| 01:20.22 | ckknight | Do the Forsaken speak "Undead"? |
| 01:20.26 | ckknight | they speak Gutterspeak |
| 01:20.30 | ckknight | in turn, BEs speak Thalassian |
| 01:21.07 | Thunder_Child | so blizz either mad an error or were smoking that day |
| 01:21.49 | Thunder_Child | made* |
| 01:23.33 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:35.26 | Tain | Gah I come up with a costume/idea I like in City of Heroes/Villians and then can't get a name through. |
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| 01:36.49 | Kirkburn | BEs speak Sindassi |
| 01:37.04 | Maldivia | lotr ripoff... |
| 01:37.12 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Languages |
| 01:38.07 | Kirkburn | Thalassian is only HEs (don't ask) |
| 01:39.16 | Maldivia | thalassian... isn't that a turtle or something ? |
| 01:39.47 | ckknight | okay, then maybe it's not set in stone yet, and it'll be switched properly to Sindassi and Eredun |
| 01:39.54 | Thunder_Child | interesting demons also speak Eredun |
| 01:40.01 | ckknight | Thunder_Child, same race. |
| 01:40.08 | ckknight | Draenei are Eredar. |
| 01:40.09 | Thunder_Child | oh thats right |
| 01:40.22 | Kirkburn | zomg, don't say that in the presence of lore gurus :P |
| 01:40.39 | ckknight | don't say what? |
| 01:40.54 | Kirkburn | That eredar and draenei are identical ;) |
| 01:41.11 | ckknight | Draenei are a subset of the Eredar |
| 01:41.25 | ckknight | therefore, Draenei are Eredar, but not all Eredar are Draenei |
| 01:41.27 | Kirkburn | As BEs are a subset of the HEs (I'm being picky, I know) |
| 01:41.39 | Thunder_Child | Almost 25,000 years ago, a faction of uncorrupted eredar led by Velen fled their homeworld of Argus, calling themselves the draenei ("the Exiled Ones"). |
| 01:42.09 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, I'm saying that they've changed from being original eredar in their travels |
| 01:42.55 | Kirkburn | (Maldivia, Great A'tuin is a giant turtle, but I don't think you're thinking of that =) |
| 01:43.03 | ckknight | or you could say that the demonic eredar changed, whereas the draenei stayed the same |
| 01:43.05 | Thunder_Child | wasnt arguing, just posting what it said |
| 01:43.14 | Maldivia | Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary - Cite This Source |
| 01:43.14 | Maldivia | Thalassian |
| 01:43.14 | Maldivia | \Tha*las"si*an\, n. [From Gr. ? the sea.] (Zo["o]l.) Any sea tortoise. |
| 01:43.20 | Kirkburn | (Not least because Great A'tuin sounds nothing like Thalassian ;) |
| 01:43.30 | Kirkburn | Oooh, interesting |
| 01:43.42 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, neither was I :P |
| 01:43.52 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 01:44.03 | Maldivia | ~dict thalassian |
| 01:44.05 | Kirkburn | ckknight, that's a good point |
| 01:44.14 | Maldivia | there we go, would have been easier :) |
| 01:44.30 | Thunder_Child | why cant purl pull from wowwiki |
| 01:44.50 | End | well, purl isn't specific to this channel |
| 01:44.51 | Kirkburn | wowwiki is difficult to get info from easily |
| 01:44.58 | Shadowed | difficult? |
| 01:45.01 | Shadowed | i don't understand that word |
| 01:45.03 | Shadowed | you mean more fun? |
| 01:45.12 | Kirkburn | Since all articles are different :P Okay ... "fun" :) |
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| 03:48.00 | Kirkburn | That's weird ... Hemer Nesingwary is in Outland ... |
| 03:48.06 | Kirkburn | *Hemet |
| 03:48.34 | Nathan` | he has a clone |
| 03:48.35 | Nathan` | oh noes |
| 03:52.34 | Kirkburn | Jebus, Arena teams cost 50g to make |
| 03:54.11 | Shadowed | It was said that gold wouldn't be as hard to get in TBC anymore |
| 03:56.22 | Tain | Gold isn't really hard to get now. |
| 03:56.38 | Shadowed | well, easier then it is now |
| 03:56.51 | Shadowed | but from the sounds of it, getting something like 5000g for the epic flying mount wont be an issue |
| 03:56.53 | Kirkburn | I want a beta account so I can find out :P |
| 03:57.20 | Shadowed | lol |
| 03:57.33 | Kirkburn | Other things I've seen - rain in Mulgore, tour guides and parties for the new cities |
| 03:57.50 | Kirkburn | (I am so going to have to join that tour) |
| 03:58.13 | Zicon | Tour guides? That's kinda cool. |
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| 05:22.29 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:22.40 | Josh_Borke | night Cairenn! |
| 05:22.44 | Josh_Borke | ~night Cairenn |
| 05:22.50 | purl | have a good night, Cairenn |
| 05:32.22 | Josh_Borke | nn all |
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| 05:55.28 | Osagasu | ~lart Corrodias |
| 05:55.38 | Osagasu | ~lart Corrodias |
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| 06:02.58 | Osagasu | ~lart Esamynn |
| 06:03.09 | Osagasu | moooojjooooo |
| 06:05.25 | ckknight | what does secure() do? |
| 06:06.12 | ckknight | I thought it was to check if a function was "secure" |
| 06:06.31 | ckknight | but secure(TurnRightStart) seems to return nil |
| 06:12.42 | Osagasu | ~lart ckknight |
| 06:12.50 | Iriel | secure takes no arguments |
| 06:12.55 | ckknight | I see |
| 06:12.56 | Iriel | it tells you if your current execution path is secure |
| 06:12.59 | ckknight | ah. |
| 06:13.02 | Iriel | it will ALWAYS return false for us |
| 06:13.08 | ckknight | nil, okay. |
| 06:13.11 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:13.23 | ckknight | I wonder if I can request that secure take an argument |
| 06:13.24 | Iriel | It allows the base UI code to avoid tainting things |
| 06:13.24 | Osagasu | So basically it's useless for us. |
| 06:13.30 | Iriel | it's for the base API |
| 06:13.37 | Iriel | I've asked for an istainted method |
| 06:13.38 | ckknight | cause I want to write AceHook-2.1 to check if a function is secure before hooking |
| 06:13.46 | Iriel | istainted([table,] 'name') |
| 06:13.57 | ckknight | Iriel, would I be impeding to ask again? |
| 06:14.54 | Iriel | It's worth asking with your rationale explained, yours is a bit different than mine |
| 06:15.19 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:15.27 | ckknight | what's your rationale, btw? |
| 06:16.10 | Iriel | Investigating why things are busted |
| 06:16.24 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 06:53.09 | Osagasu | ~lart Mikma |
| 07:07.33 | zenzelezz | argh... I'm no expert on dental stuff, but this pain in the back of my lower right jaw has me convinced my wisdom's tooth is starting to make an entrance |
| 07:07.55 | ckknight | how old are you? |
| 07:08.09 | zenzelezz | ~22.5 |
| 07:08.46 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:08.54 | ckknight | yea, probably is if it hasn't happened yet |
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| 07:12.29 | Osagasu | The sad thing is, that if you're having pain it's already caused damage, sorry. :\ |
| 07:13.14 | zenzelezz | I'm a warrior, I don't need wisdom's teeth |
| 07:29.01 | |FF|Im2good4u | i figured out wut all of u already knew ofc but +magical spells anmd effects also increases hunter damage :P |
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| 07:40.40 | Kirkburn | lol, I missed the one year anniversary of ClearFont :( |
| 07:40.51 | Kirkburn | I can't believe it's been that long :O |
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| 07:47.24 | Esamynn | png is a non-lossy image compressiong format, correct? |
| 07:47.34 | Osagasu | Oh cool, I just noticed that CT Profiles just added ammo pouch support.... I think |
| 07:48.09 | ckknight | right, Esamynn |
| 07:50.15 | Osagasu | wah? |
| 07:50.48 | Osagasu | Rogues and warriors can't select the ammo pouch thingy? |
| 07:51.08 | Osagasu | I know they're supid if they do use one, but they still can |
| 07:51.39 | ckknight | okay, so do the Blood Elves not have a capital? |
| 07:51.43 | ckknight | or what's the deal with that? |
| 07:51.44 | End | they dp |
| 07:51.49 | End | it's just silvermoon |
| 07:51.53 | ckknight | why isn't it on the map? |
| 07:51.58 | End | I dunno |
| 07:52.01 | ckknight | as a castle |
| 07:52.16 | ckknight | it certainly would explain things |
| 07:52.36 | Osagasu | Isn't it about half quest zone anyways? |
| 07:52.46 | End | -that- I'm not sure about |
| 07:53.00 | End | maybe Quel'Thalas is the zone? |
| 07:53.12 | ckknight | the zone is "Eversong Woods" |
| 07:53.17 | End | hmmm |
| 07:53.18 | ckknight | and the 10-20 zone is "Ghostlands" |
| 07:53.59 | ckknight | Draenei: Azuremyst Isle (1-10), Bloodmyst Isle (10-20) |
| 07:54.04 | ckknight | and they have "The Exodar" |
| 07:54.38 | End | well, all my knowledge about the blood elf area is pre-WoW :P |
| 07:55.15 | ckknight | I have the beta client open |
| 07:55.32 | End | ah |
| 07:55.32 | ckknight | I'm adding the new lands to Babble and Tourist |
| 07:56.00 | End | hmm |
| 07:56.09 | End | it probably goes Silvermoon City |
| 07:56.28 | ckknight | it's not on the map, though, and when I went there, the weapon master was in the first town |
| 07:56.35 | End | odd |
| 07:57.05 | ckknight | maybe they don't _need_ a capital |
| 07:59.13 | End | well |
| 07:59.18 | End | I believe it was "rebuilt" |
| 07:59.25 | End | just like how stormwind was rebuilt |
| 08:00.12 | ckknight | maybe it's still being built |
| 08:00.19 | End | maybe, I dunno |
| 08:00.19 | ckknight | or the developers haven't gotten to it yet. |
| 08:00.24 | ckknight | :-P |
| 08:00.29 | End | I think they have |
| 08:00.43 | End | they've shown some screenies of it...I think |
| 08:00.48 | ckknight | can someone explain the raid levels here: http://worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/outlandmap.html |
| 08:01.18 | End | what about them exactly? |
| 08:02.24 | ckknight | well, for TouristLib, you can fetch the levels for a zone/instance |
| 08:02.45 | ckknight | so what'd be the levels for Black Temple? |
| 08:03.02 | End | I imagine the levels are all level 70....but that's just a guess :P |
| 08:03.55 | Corr[stillhome] | level range: 67-70. seems pretty straightforward to me. |
| 08:04.23 | Corr[stillhome] | oh, that's talking about the region |
| 08:04.37 | Corr[stillhome] | i click on the dungeon icon and it tells me about the region? jesus |
| 08:04.38 | End | yeah, he means the raid instances |
| 08:04.48 | End | like Magtheridon's Lair |
| 08:04.54 | End | it says "Raid" |
| 08:05.03 | End | no indication of intended level |
| 08:05.14 | End | (but, I think level 70 is a good guess) |
| 08:05.19 | End | (meh) |
| 08:06.36 | ckknight | I'm gonna put em as 60-70 until I know for sure |
| 08:06.54 | Kirkburn | The wiki has some of that info |
| 08:07.11 | ckknight | link? |
| 08:07.33 | Kirkburn | If I could connect to it, maybe :P |
| 08:07.48 | Kirkburn | I think the dungeon stuff is on the 'Instance guides' page, linked on the sidebar |
| 08:09.29 | ckknight | do you know if AV is split up as 51-60 and 61-70? |
| 08:10.10 | Kirkburn | What is it atm? |
| 08:10.26 | Kirkburn | I'm sure 70 will get it's own bracket if not now, very soon |
| 08:10.30 | Kirkburn | *its |
| 08:10.33 | ckknight | now it's 51-60 |
| 08:10.46 | ckknight | the other BGs are k0-k9 |
| 08:10.54 | ckknight | and AV is 51-60 |
| 08:10.55 | Kirkburn | There isn't a 60 bracket on its own? |
| 08:11.03 | ckknight | for WSG and AB, yes |
| 08:11.04 | ckknight | not AV |
| 08:11.15 | Kirkburn | Kinda weird, that |
| 08:11.26 | Kirkburn | Well, tbh, don't know |
| 08:11.44 | Kirkburn | (do care, though) |
| 08:11.50 | Kirkburn | :) |
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| 08:32.07 | ckknight | okay, TouristLib is updated for the expansion |
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| 08:41.10 | Bh | I believe i heard somewhere that the BGs will be split 51-59, 60, 61-69, 70. |
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| 09:07.05 | zenzelezz | low-level players asking to be taken through instances by high-level players is one thing... but this guy just invited me randomly, then sent me a tell "sm plz"... annoying bastard |
| 09:09.16 | axxo | tell em to come to you and you'll go to sm together |
| 09:09.16 | axxo | then continue grinding in winterspring |
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| 09:09.24 | zenzelezz | tempting |
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| 09:20.00 | Corr[stillhome] | revenge-dealing rude, yet dishonest, if that statement makes any sense |
| 09:22.16 | zenzelezz | not quite sure what you mean |
| 09:23.33 | Corr[stillhome] | he was rude to try to party and then ask for a rush |
| 09:23.42 | Corr[stillhome] | you would be rude to accept and then stand him up |
| 09:23.51 | Corr[stillhome] | in addition, it is also dishonest to do that |
| 09:24.01 | zenzelezz | ah, yes |
| 09:24.52 | zenzelezz | like I said, it's tempting (to teach them a lesson), but I like to think that they don't actually intend to be annoying bastards |
| 09:32.11 | Corr[stillhome] | you could just tell him that it's rude to invite and then ask for a rush |
| 09:33.03 | zenzelezz | where's the fun in that? :-p Either way, I don't fool them like that |
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| 11:02.20 | zenzelezz | another bad night? |
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| 11:18.02 | Kirkburn | I haven't slept ... a giant spider crawling across my arm put paid to that idea |
| 11:20.24 | zenzelezz | spiders all look small to me after Maexxna |
| 11:20.31 | zenzelezz | but I don't think I'd sleep either ;) |
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| 11:23.19 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 11:23.45 | Kirkburn | It was big and black and scary. And it took me about 5 mins to find it to "remove" it |
| 11:24.04 | Kirkburn | It's forced me to tidy my room, at least |
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| 11:34.21 | jehuu | is changing keybindings in combat prohobited? :P |
| 11:39.40 | jehuu | like when i press on 'key' it will cast A spell and remap it to cast B spell when i press on it the 2nd time, and back to A spell on the 3rd press... like seal and judgement for 1 button instead of 2 |
| 11:39.52 | ckknight | I think so |
| 11:40.22 | ckknight | pretty sure that's prohibited in wow 2.0 |
| 11:40.39 | jehuu | did alot of alias scripting like that in counterstrike back in the days ;) |
| 11:40.46 | jehuu | ah man, that sucks |
| 11:40.48 | jehuu | :( |
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| 12:09.55 | wereHamster | do you guys do raids in TBC? or go to instances? or just soloing around? |
| 12:10.22 | Kaelten | I start newbs and get them to level 5 and delete them! |
| 12:10.26 | wereHamster | I'd like to update HealSync and see how well it works with the new spellcast events |
| 12:10.29 | Kaelten | errr.... wait. nvm |
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| 12:15.36 | wereHamster | oh, and can someone explain me how exactly the spellcast events work? for example what's the difference between _SEND and _START? |
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| 12:23.22 | ckknight | I've been questing with [Ammo] for the past little while |
| 12:23.29 | ckknight | granted, we're both lvl 6 or so |
| 12:23.43 | Kirkburn | go you! |
| 12:23.56 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 12:25.35 | wereHamster | I've heard that argX is now passed as a argument to the OnEvent function, is that right? |
| 12:25.52 | wereHamster | what about 'event' ? that, too? |
| 12:27.12 | ckknight | yes |
| 12:27.18 | ckknight | (self, event, arg1, arg2, ...) |
| 12:27.43 | wereHamster | nice :) |
| 12:28.15 | wereHamster | that will work, too, right? func(self, event, ...) |
| 12:28.34 | ckknight | yep. |
| 12:28.36 | ckknight | sure will |
| 12:28.53 | wereHamster | I like the changes in TBC... |
| 12:28.58 | ckknight | I made a branch of Ace2 that utilizes all the new features |
| 12:29.04 | ckknight | more efficient now as well |
| 12:30.25 | wereHamster | hm.. only UNIT_SPELLCAST_SEND has 'target', so I'll have to register both _SEND and _START |
| 12:30.32 | Corr[stillhome] | last night i partied with a guy who cast prayer of healing so often when we all had nearly full health that he had an overheal rate of over 40% |
| 12:30.47 | Corr[stillhome] | i hope that isn't a preview of what most healers will be like after 2.0 hits |
| 12:31.16 | Corr[stillhome] | and it wasn't just that, there was the use of 2k heals when there was only 1k missing, just a big mess :) |
| 12:38.53 | jehuu | better safe than sorry :P |
| 12:39.20 | jehuu | like multiple people healing same target, that is big mess :) |
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| 13:04.58 | Wobin | Corr[stillhome]: hehe, I was frantically spellbook paging earlier today |
| 13:05.09 | Wobin | "OMG where's shackle?!" |
| 13:05.37 | Wobin | Remove Disease? What?! Discipline? Holy? Where? |
| 13:06.00 | Wobin | I haven't played a 5man healer for ages =P |
| 13:06.46 | Wobin | Although that kinda reminds me of some friends, who three-manned scarlet strat |
| 13:07.09 | Wobin | The priest used line of sight exploits to prayer of healing through walls to keep alive =P |
| 13:08.30 | Tain | Ban priests! |
| 13:09.27 | Wobin | absolutely |
| 13:09.28 | wereHamster | woot.. Stable Nvidia drivers 1.0-9626 released, brb |
| 13:09.32 | Wobin | everyone should heal with bandages |
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| 13:22.53 | wereHamster | is UnitCastingInfo(unit) data available as soon as UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT is fired or only after UNIT_SPELLCAST_START? |
| 13:38.08 | wereHamster | does anyone know who is 'Khalroar' ? |
| 13:49.54 | Kirkburn | I like that WoW 2.0 is basically allowing Blizz to make all the changes they've wanted to make over the last year :) |
| 13:50.15 | Kirkburn | There must have been so many things they've wanted to sort out, but not had the opportunity |
| 13:51.21 | wereHamster | Josh_Borke, you here? |
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| 14:23.30 | zenzelezz | <jehuu> like multiple people healing same target, that is big mess :) <--- most of my guild uses Forecast... I've never seen so many heals at one time as the other day when I took aggro from Maexxna at ~7% after the two MTs were dead |
| 14:24.31 | jehuu | my guild disbanded at 13% |
| 14:24.45 | zenzelezz | the raid or the guild? o_O |
| 14:24.53 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 14:25.06 | jehuu | guild died after that last try |
| 14:25.08 | jehuu | :p |
| 14:25.28 | jehuu | attendance and yatiyatiya |
| 14:25.45 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 14:26.16 | zenzelezz | we usually have warrior trouble... either we have 10, or we have 3 (in the latter case most of them will be DPS spec) |
| 14:27.56 | jehuu | we had priest, paladin, warrior, rogue, mage, warlock hunter and did i mention priest problems? :P |
| 14:28.20 | jehuu | random afk |
| 14:28.28 | zenzelezz | thought all raid guilds had problems with casters |
| 14:29.37 | nevcairiel | warriors only here |
| 14:32.04 | zenzelezz | I have a problem with one of our warriors being an asshat... he's a decent guy usually, but he's a veteran in the guild, I'm relatively new, so he never trusts anything I say about the encounters |
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| 14:47.51 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: ping |
| 14:49.49 | wereHamster | I was looking at the new spellcast events |
| 14:50.56 | Josh_Borke | wereHamster: yea, they are really nice (I think) and would eliminate the need for communications (i'm hoping) |
| 14:51.06 | Corr[stillhome] | i don't know how to play a tank warrior! oh nooooooo |
| 14:51.11 | wereHamster | and I think I'll have to use CommChannel nonetheless |
| 14:51.17 | Josh_Borke | why's that? |
| 14:51.32 | wereHamster | you get the spell, rank, start/end time.. |
| 14:51.41 | wereHamster | using teh WoW API |
| 14:51.50 | wereHamster | but you won't get the spell target |
| 14:52.13 | Josh_Borke | i thought i saw one where it said we did |
| 14:53.02 | wereHamster | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT has a 'target' argument, but I don't think you get this event for all units aroung you |
| 14:53.41 | Josh_Borke | i'd think it'd fire for all first order units |
| 14:53.55 | Josh_Borke | raid1-40/party1-5/target/focus |
| 14:54.40 | wereHamster | SENT means 'Client has sent a spell-requiest to the server, awaiting confirmation', and I don't think the server send this event to all raid members, that would be overkill (IMHO) |
| 14:55.32 | Corr[stillhome] | by the time the spell request hits the server, it becomes an actual cast |
| 14:56.07 | wereHamster | this is (I think) also why slouken wrote: "UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, "player", spell, rank, target" - eg. explicitely setting teh first argument to "player" |
| 14:56.13 | Josh_Borke | Corr[stillhome]: are you sure? they effectively created Cirk's FastCast in wow 2.0 |
| 14:56.22 | wereHamster | and not 'unit' like for the other functions |
| 14:57.12 | wereHamster | similarily you don't get SUCCEEDED for other raid members, only STOP |
| 14:57.57 | wereHamster | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=56765701&sid=1 |
| 14:58.39 | Corr[stillhome] | Josh_Borke: i'm not sure. but it would hardly make sense to tell everyone else "SENT" & "FINISHED" at the same time |
| 14:59.07 | Corr[stillhome] | i think your client can assume that if you receive the message that this guy finished casting his spell, the guy also at some point sent the casting message to the server, unless he's mind controlled |
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| 15:06.10 | Kaelten | anyone know python? |
| 15:06.52 | zenzelezz | meh... the language is old enough to make snake jokes not funny anymore |
| 15:07.13 | zenzelezz | ... but so hard to resist |
| 15:07.36 | Kaelten | heh |
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| 15:10.58 | Tain | I know KungFu. |
| 15:11.06 | zenzelezz | show me |
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| 15:55.39 | wereHamster | Josh_Borke, I came up with this: each client sends 'HS:T("TargetName")' at SPELLCAST_SENT and 'HS:T()' at SPELLCAST_STOP, each client would then save the 'sender->targetname' pairs in a table, all other infos can be queried using the WoW API. |
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| 15:59.28 | Josh_Borke | i'm waiting on the test server before i make anymore guesses |
| 16:02.45 | Maldivia | I'd wish they'd bring up the PTR simultanious with the beta, so we could test addons, without beta access :| |
| 16:03.40 | cogwheel | I think the problem is they're still in very active development (especially for the UI) |
| 16:03.52 | cogwheel | the way the forums are looking, there's still a LOT of changes being made |
| 16:04.15 | Maldivia | true |
| 16:04.28 | Maldivia | but it would still be nice to get a feel of the new secure interface ): |
| 16:06.28 | wereHamster | or just give us beta keys ;) |
| 16:12.26 | Maldivia | wereHamster: even better :) |
| 16:12.51 | Maldivia | they would be sure, the new UI security would be tested to it's fullest :) |
| 16:14.28 | cogwheel | does anyone have any experience with non-faux ScrollFrames? |
| 16:14.52 | cogwheel | ("vrai scrollframes?" XD ) |
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| 16:38.48 | Kirkburn|Vista1 | Haha, the page "cockatrice" keeps getting flagged for vandalism on the wiki's special Recent Changes list :D |
| 16:39.17 | Kirkburn|Vista1 | Every time someone edits it, it picks up the first part of the name and flags it :P |
| 16:39.26 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 16:39.46 | zenzelezz | why would "cock" be vandalism? Inappropriate perhaps, but vandalism? |
| 16:40.36 | Kirkburn|Vista1 | It checks for people typing words like those |
| 16:41.01 | zenzelezz | yeah, but I still think it's weird to consider it vandalism |
| 16:41.09 | zenzelezz | people could be talking about roosters |
| 16:41.14 | Kirkburn|Vista1 | Not sure how Mikk set it up, but it check keywords such as 'gold' and similar things. |
| 16:41.30 | Kirkburn|Vista1 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:RC |
| 16:42.06 | Kirkburn|Vista1 | (It only flags it on that page, very useful page it is too) |
| 16:44.30 | zenzelezz | now that's a quick raid |
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| 18:14.00 | Josh_Borke | hola again |
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| 18:19.29 | Kirochi | chieat |
| 18:19.43 | Kirochi | identify <Noob> |
| 18:19.50 | Kirochi | wrong pw |
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| 19:35.02 | Tuller | so beta people, do enemy cast bars work in pvp? |
| 19:36.16 | Cide | yes |
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| 19:46.58 | Rhez | anyone around? I'm trying to figure out what has changedin the UI since the last patch that would cause CombatMonitor to no longer function....anyone have any ideas of what could have chnged significantly? |
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| 19:47.23 | Kaso | what does CombatMonitor do? |
| 19:47.25 | Kirochi | cide you got a beta account ? |
| 19:47.30 | Cide | yes |
| 19:48.03 | Kaso | did i hear a rumor that you were credited in the Secure Frames thingy template? |
| 19:48.14 | Rhez | Kaso: monitors and displays combat stats |
| 19:48.23 | Rhez | event and combat log driven |
| 19:48.33 | Kaso | any errors or is it just silently failing? |
| 19:49.16 | Rhez | its just silently not working...none of the menu's work all it does it display the litlte HUD but doesnt register any combat info on it |
| 19:49.32 | Osagasu | Hmm |
| 19:49.40 | Osagasu | The Dragonstalker rebalance looks nice. |
| 19:51.43 | Kirochi | cide do you have a char currently in honor hold ? |
| 19:51.53 | Cide | I'm horde |
| 19:51.58 | Kirochi | (would you, by chance, have an alliance char ?) |
| 19:52.12 | Cide | no :) |
| 19:52.15 | Kirochi | :( |
| 19:52.22 | Kirochi | do you start at 60 ? |
| 19:52.47 | Cide | you start either at 1 or at whatever level the character you copy over is |
| 19:52.55 | Kirochi | ooh kewl |
| 19:53.19 | Kirochi | and are the drop rates at normal levels or do you have enhanced loot ? |
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| 19:54.05 | Cide | drop rates of what? |
| 19:54.11 | Kirochi | phat lewt |
| 19:54.13 | zenzelezz | free epix |
| 19:54.27 | Cide | most stuff is really, really good |
| 19:54.55 | zenzelezz | he's wondering if you can get it easily or if the drop rate is the same as it will (likely) be on live |
| 19:55.03 | Cide | dunno |
| 19:55.11 | Cide | I'm guessing the same |
| 19:55.24 | [Ammo] | the 'feeling' says its the same |
| 19:55.25 | zenzelezz | I would assume so |
| 19:55.32 | [Ammo] | haven't seen any absurdly high droprates |
| 19:55.55 | Rhez | Kaso: any suggestions? |
| 19:56.24 | Kaso | its really hard to work out whats wrong if it doesnt error :< |
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| 22:05.53 | Cairenn | anyone heard from ckknight today? |
| 22:07.30 | Cairenn | ~seen ckknight |
| 22:07.31 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 37m 22s ago, saying: 'KleidershrankGnom'. |
| 22:10.15 | Xuerian | He seemed to conk out pretty hard after the Ace2TBC crusade :P |
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| 22:11.38 | Cairenn | Xuerian: I'm more worried about the 6.6 that hit them about 6 hrs ago, followed by 4.2 aftershocks ... |
| 22:12.23 | Cairenn | http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/15/hawaii.quake/index.html |
| 22:12.34 | Xuerian | o_0;;; |
| 22:14.20 | Xuerian | Shit. |
| 22:15.21 | Cairenn | what I'm hearing is power is pretty well out all over, so hopefully that's the only reason he isn't around |
| 22:16.00 | Cairenn | apparently not too many injures and no reported deaths at this time |
| 22:21.22 | Cairenn | brb |
| 22:29.01 | [Ammo] | if anyone sees cairenn: I saw ckk 10 hours ago or so, we were playing TBC on eu, and fixing ace2 addons |
| 22:29.07 | [Ammo] | later ~ |
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| 22:32.12 | capitano666 | Hi |
| 22:33.08 | capitano666 | I've got a question: a guy told me to take a look at "SecureTemplates.lua in the FrameXML folder", but I don't have any FrameXML folder <_< |
| 22:33.45 | Cairenn | you need to get this and run it: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01669p |
| 22:34.29 | capitano666 | thanks, first time I see it |
| 22:35.05 | wereHamster | ... or look at the files on wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 22:35.11 | Cairenn | that too |
| 22:35.23 | Dolby-wowi | Cairenn.. <[Ammo]>if anyone sees cairenn: I saw ckk 10 hours ago or so, we were playing TBC on eu, and fixing ace2 addons |
| 22:35.25 | Dolby-wowi | <[Ammo]>later ~ |
| 22:35.45 | Cairenn | yeah, and the earthquake was 5.5 hrs ago |
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| 22:35.51 | Cairenn | or so |
| 22:36.43 | [Ammo] | Cairenn: I last saw CKK 9-10 hours ago |
| 22:36.47 | [Ammo] | when we were playing on TBC eu |
| 22:36.51 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 22:36.52 | [Ammo] | and fixing addons |
| 22:36.56 | Cairenn | got that |
| 22:37.00 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 22:37.04 | Cairenn | just hoping he's okay |
| 22:37.10 | [Ammo] | I think he is |
| 22:37.12 | [Ammo] | why? |
| 22:37.25 | Hatsuki | well, cnn article reports no injuries/casualties |
| 22:37.41 | [Ammo] | oh the hawaii quake |
| 22:37.45 | Cairenn | 6.6 earthquake in Hawaii about 5.5 hrs back |
| 22:37.50 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 22:37.59 | [Ammo] | damn |
| 22:38.45 | Cairenn | cnn saying no major injuries & no fatalities at this point, but still will worry till we hear from him |
| 22:38.51 | Cairenn | although that may be a while |
| 22:38.54 | [Ammo] | I say he's alright |
| 22:39.05 | [Ammo] | what could happen to a nerd behind his computer... |
| 22:39.15 | Cairenn | he most likely is, but it's my nature |
| 22:39.15 | [Ammo] | oh and worrying won't help you or him at this point |
| 22:39.53 | [Ammo] | concern is a good thing though |
| 22:40.03 | Dolby-wowi | I'd go nuts with out power and internet for more then 2hrs... |
| 22:40.20 | [Ammo] | then you need to get out more, and enjoy the sun :p |
| 22:40.24 | Cairenn | Dolby-wowi: good thing you don't live here :p |
| 22:40.25 | capitano666 | ok I have the FrameXML folder now but there's no SecureTemplate.lua in it....I need the TBC FrameXML |
| 22:40.25 | Dolby-wowi | =p |
| 22:40.43 | Dolby-wowi | I do, I just bring a computer with a built in cellphone |
| 22:40.44 | [Ammo] | capitan: wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 22:41.06 | [Ammo] | choices dolby :) |
| 22:41.12 | Cairenn | Dolby-wowi: I go without power for 2+ hrs a few times over the course of the year :p |
| 22:41.13 | [Ammo] | I bring my wife and a sixpack :p |
| 22:41.47 | [Ammo] | anyway, time for bed |
| 22:41.53 | Cairenn | night [Ammo] |
| 22:41.54 | Dolby-wowi | hehe so do I, but then again we have a generator |
| 22:42.03 | Dolby-wowi | but mainly for the sub-pumps |
| 22:42.09 | Cairenn | gief generator |
| 22:42.13 | Dolby-wowi | so the basement doesnt flood |
| 22:43.31 | Dolby-wowi | although one time the generator wasnt even enough and the basement flooded waist deep |
| 22:43.43 | Dolby-wowi | had to buy a gas powered pump |
| 22:45.39 | Cairenn | been there, done that |
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| 23:18.11 | capitano666 | bleah I'm becoming mad, I'm not able to make this stupid secureactionbutton work >.< |
| 23:20.17 | capitano666 | function test_onLoad() |
| 23:20.17 | capitano666 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.17 | capitano666 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.17 | capitano666 | end; |
| 23:20.32 | capitano666 | any idea why if I click on the button "Button" nothing happens? >.< |
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| 23:21.11 | Corrodias | bum bum bum |
| 23:22.18 | capitano666 | shouldn't http://wowi.pastey.net/1584 target myself? |
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| 23:36.28 | Osagasu | Tell me where the post is and where I can find that pic |
| 23:36.34 | Osagasu | and I'll do it for you |
| 23:37.35 | Dolby-wowi | ROFL "I Dont Know Y It Wont Work Thats Y I Posted It" |
| 23:38.00 | Dolby-wowi | um which one of the 1000+ mods ? |
| 23:38.25 | Osagasu | Okay, I'm going trolling. |
| 23:38.43 | Osagasu | Where's the thread? |
| 23:38.57 | Dolby-wowi | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6557 |
| 23:39.43 | Cairenn | omfg, that was his response? |
| 23:41.23 | Osagasu | Can I troll? pleaseplease? |
| 23:41.53 | Tain | That might be the funniest thread in message board history as it stands. |
| 23:45.16 | Cairenn | ajsdlkfjlsdjfopaiw7ue49-8q27 people |
| 23:46.13 | capitano666 | Hey people, help a noob: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31849#post31849 |
| 23:51.24 | Cairenn | o.m.g. |
| 23:51.31 | Cairenn | it just keeps getting better and better |
| 23:52.51 | cogwheel | just got my first epic mount :) |
| 23:52.57 | Cairenn | grats |
| 23:52.59 | Xuerian | Grats, cog :p |
| 23:53.30 | cogwheel | we all died during the battle, but the priest had a SS. She popped it and all the mobs disappeared and we were able to continue from that point :D |
| 23:54.34 | Naurbrannon | mmm that spammy thread is getting a lot of response, maybe I should do something like that next time |
| 23:55.29 | Cairenn | Naurbrannon: no, just the folks that can help you are either currently afk or otherwise tied up elsewhere atm |
| 23:56.02 | Naurbrannon | btw I'm afraid I posted it on the wrong forum ^_^" |
| 23:56.12 | Naurbrannon | "Developer Discussions > General Authoring Discussion" oO |
| 23:56.52 | Cairenn | I moved it there |
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| 23:58.32 | Cairenn | Dolby-wowi: rofl |
| 23:58.45 | Dolby-wowi | not gonna reply any more |
| 23:58.52 | Osagasu | Can I troll now? |
| 23:59.19 | Cairenn | Osagasu: be nice |
| 23:59.42 | Dolby-wowi | I take his reply as , he has followed the instructions and its now working |
| 23:59.43 | Dolby-wowi | =p |
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