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| 00:13.07 | Kaso | Maldivia? |
| 00:16.12 | JoshBork1 | bye all |
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| 00:19.24 | hugo | anyone who is good in modify ag_unitframes ? |
| 00:21.06 | Mikma | hugo: andreasg is |
| 00:24.44 | Kaso | Where's that little gnome when you need him |
| 00:25.27 | Xavalia | hidden under your bed |
| 00:26.27 | hugo | hes author ;d |
| 00:26.33 | hugo | so he prolly good at it :) |
| 00:26.44 | hugo | but hes not here ;> |
| 00:27.20 | Xavalia | hehe |
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| 00:28.20 | Maldivia | Kaso? |
| 00:29.23 | Kaso | remeber when we were talking abou the nameplates? |
| 00:29.29 | Maldivia | yeah? |
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| 00:29.47 | Kaso | How'd you Click() em |
| 00:30.20 | Maldivia | list = {WorldFrame:GetChildren()} list[5]:Click() |
| 00:31.16 | Kaso | aah ha |
| 00:31.51 | Kaso | it wasnt working before, because apparently some of my addons have frames as children of WorldFrame, so only list[12] and above are the nameplates |
| 00:31.54 | Kaso | interesting |
| 00:32.23 | Kaso | guess i coulda worked that out myself if id tried harder, but thanks anyway :> |
| 00:32.35 | Maldivia | heh |
| 00:32.55 | Kaso | seeing if i can put together a quick Healing over head thing |
| 00:33.43 | Maldivia | was looking at that ealier, but gave up, since I didn't really care :) |
| 00:34.08 | Kaso | mage, arent you? |
| 00:34.37 | Kaso | imagen if you couldnt have all those prety numbers on AOE, thats what its like for us healers :> |
| 00:35.05 | Maldivia | I have a 60 raiding priest aswell :) |
| 00:35.20 | Kaso | ah |
| 00:35.52 | Kaso | ./random tangent |
| 00:35.53 | Maldivia | too be honest, don't really care for how much I heal, I'm more concerned keeping them alive :) |
| 00:36.18 | Wobin | hehe |
| 00:36.20 | Kaso | with the info in my host you could find out where i live to like 100meter radius |
| 00:36.23 | Maldivia | and I know for how much my spells heal/do damage |
| 00:36.26 | Kaso | that's scary |
| 00:36.32 | Wobin | You should tack on a smiley above their head to indicate health level |
| 00:37.10 | Maldivia | uhh, I have 29 nameplate-children in my worldframe right now... |
| 00:37.34 | Kirov | Not all of them are :IsVisible() |
| 00:38.03 | Maldivia | true |
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| 00:41.15 | Maldivia | hmm, can TargetUnit be used from macros in 2.0 ? |
| 00:48.15 | Kaso | * Addons and macro scripts may not use any movement, spell casting, or targeting |
| 00:48.20 | Kaso | guess not |
| 00:48.39 | Xavalia | no idea.. but for some reason if I do if (not int == 0) will return false even if int is not 0 >,< |
| 00:50.44 | Xuerian | I haven't read the thread, but from what has been said in teh channels, they can target, but you can't change what they target once they're locked (Read: In combat) |
| 00:52.04 | hugo | guys anyone know of some guid for frame of ateis quest ? |
| 00:52.11 | hugo | the legendary staff from naxxramas |
| 00:52.16 | hugo | guide |
| 00:52.23 | Mikk | try wowwiki |
| 00:52.27 | hugo | tried |
| 00:52.36 | Mikk | try harder. i know i've read it there :-P |
| 00:52.41 | hugo | our mage just got 40th piece cant find any guilde ;] |
| 00:52.47 | hugo | i used search :D |
| 00:52.56 | Kaso | take it to the dragon |
| 00:52.57 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh%2C_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian |
| 00:53.15 | Kaso | (but not before showing it to the NPCs in LHC and watching them keel over and die |
| 00:53.16 | hugo | http://www.wowwiki.com/Atiesh,_Greatstaff_of_the_Guardian |
| 00:53.19 | hugo | found it |
| 00:53.20 | hugo | thanks :D |
| 00:53.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh...my, thats an odd bug: http://imagesocket.com/view/minimap601.JPG |
| 00:54.39 | Kirov | lol |
| 00:54.42 | Kirov | seen that before |
| 00:54.57 | Kirov | Someone is trying to mess with the minimap |
| 00:55.17 | Kirov | as a rule it's best not to touch the minimap itself, and only the cluster. |
| 00:55.22 | Beladona | looks like some bad setpoints |
| 00:55.33 | Beladona | and yeah, the wrong frame being modified |
| 00:55.58 | Beladona | are you trying to make the minimap movable? |
| 00:56.06 | Xavalia | ok stupid question but how can I change color in a text message? |
| 00:56.19 | Beladona | is it chat? |
| 00:56.22 | Xavalia | yeah |
| 00:56.24 | Xavalia | normal chat |
| 00:56.31 | Mikk | you can't |
| 00:56.35 | Xavalia | >.< |
| 00:56.37 | Beladona | are you CHANGING it after it was sent? or setting the color and THEN sending it? |
| 00:57.01 | Beladona | Mikk, if you set an id for the chat text, why can't you change it's color? |
| 00:57.02 | Mikk | do you mean change the colors YOU see on YOUR machine? |
| 00:57.03 | Mikk | that's doable |
| 00:57.05 | Xavalia | well I am using DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(); functoin |
| 00:57.08 | Mikk | ah |
| 00:57.09 | Mikk | you can =) |
| 00:57.16 | Beladona | you can do either |
| 00:57.23 | Beladona | which one will determine how it is done |
| 00:57.29 | Beladona | so answer my previous question =) |
| 00:57.32 | Xavalia | ok so what are the options? |
| 00:57.40 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ScrollingMessageFrame_AddMessage |
| 00:57.43 | Beladona | AddMessage takes color |
| 00:57.45 | Mikk | "r,g,b" |
| 00:57.46 | Xavalia | I thought itwas addding \cffXXXXXX though |
| 00:57.53 | Vanesco | for i = 1,GetNumPartyMembers() do local _,englishClass = UnitClass("party" .. i) if englishClass == "WARRIOR" then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(i"") |
| 00:57.58 | Vanesco | shouldn't this work? :x |
| 00:58.01 | Beladona | but you might want to set an id too, that way you can change color for it later too |
| 00:58.16 | Xavalia | yeah |
| 00:58.28 | Beladona | depends on what you are doing really |
| 00:59.28 | Beladona | if you want MULTI-COLORED test though, you will need the escape sequences |
| 00:59.37 | Beladona | s/test/text |
| 00:59.48 | Beladona | I walsy do that wrong (shoots self) |
| 01:00.41 | Xavalia | I will use escape.. those 0.0 and 1.0 is not what I want |
| 01:00.53 | Xavalia | I want to use RGB |
| 01:00.57 | Beladona | yeah |
| 01:01.01 | Beladona | those are RGB |
| 01:01.06 | Beladona | 255/255 = 1.0 |
| 01:01.10 | Xavalia | I know |
| 01:01.15 | Xavalia | but those numbers are annoying |
| 01:01.37 | Beladona | I think escape sequences are more annoying, those are simply math |
| 01:02.10 | Xavalia | personal preferance I guess |
| 01:02.11 | Mikk | Xavalia: Just put in 123/255, 234/255, 100/255 then |
| 01:02.11 | Beladona | and if you use escape sequences, you can't change the color later by id |
| 01:02.50 | Xavalia | I do not get where you can change the ID though |
| 01:02.59 | Xavalia | ermm color of that iD |
| 01:03.00 | Mikk | The last parameter is an ID number |
| 01:03.03 | Mikk | ah |
| 01:03.27 | Xavalia | and I am used to hex numbers |
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| 01:03.42 | Mikk | ScrollingMessageFrame:UpdateColorByID(id, r, g, b) |
| 01:03.57 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API <- has it all |
| 01:03.58 | Xavalia | I won't use that |
| 01:04.21 | Xavalia | that updatecolorbyid function :P |
| 01:04.25 | Xavalia | not needed for this app |
| 01:04.37 | Xavalia | unless it allows people change it ingame |
| 01:04.50 | Beladona | thats fine, just suggesting it may not be a good habit to get into using escapes |
| 01:04.55 | Mikk | It does if you register a proper chat type |
| 01:05.12 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Create_your_own_chat_types |
| 01:05.29 | Beladona | the only time I see the need for escapes is when I have chat I want one color, but part of teh chat needs to be another color, like something highlighted |
| 01:06.12 | Mikk | Either way, escapes will work. Just use "|", not "\". |
| 01:06.19 | Xavalia | yeah I saw it :P |
| 01:06.30 | Xavalia | own chat channel type is a bit tomuch.. |
| 01:06.34 | Xavalia | it is supposed to be simple |
| 01:06.45 | Xavalia | if they do not like the color then I don't care :P |
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| 01:08.02 | Maldivia | Xavalia: you found out about your not int == 0 problem ? |
| 01:08.11 | Xavalia | yeah |
| 01:08.14 | Xavalia | int > 0 |
| 01:08.17 | Xavalia | used that now |
| 01:08.28 | Maldivia | Xavalia: the problem is: not int == 0, is parsed as (not int) == 0 |
| 01:08.50 | Maldivia | Xavalia: but you could just use: int ~= 0 |
| 01:09.00 | Maldivia | "~=" means not equal |
| 01:10.28 | Xavalia | ermm.. every other language != and here ~= .. and () problem.. great |
| 01:10.58 | Maldivia | :) |
| 01:13.07 | Kaso | ha |
| 01:13.10 | Kaso | you get used to it |
| 01:16.51 | Xavalia | can I use table[table_index][table_field] saying where there is a table inside a table? |
| 01:17.00 | Maldivia | yes |
| 01:17.04 | Xavalia | thanx |
| 01:17.12 | Xavalia | sorry for playing a noob, am new to this language :P |
| 01:17.17 | Maldivia | np |
| 01:17.28 | Maldivia | we all started there :) |
| 01:19.17 | Xavalia | am not new to programming but am new to this language |
| 01:20.16 | Kaso | UIFrameFadeOut(Frame,1,1,0) Frame.fadeInfo.finishedFunc = function() self:Hide() end |
| 01:20.19 | Kaso | what am i doing wrong |
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| 01:21.09 | Maldivia | what's self refering to ? |
| 01:21.32 | Beladona | Xavalia: what language? |
| 01:22.08 | Xavalia | ? I normally program in? |
| 01:22.08 | Beladona | yeah |
| 01:22.08 | Kaso | Frame i hoped |
| 01:22.08 | Kirkburn|Vista | Bloody Creative, why have they timebombed their Vista drivers :/ |
| 01:22.10 | Beladona | wait, what? |
| 01:22.29 | Xavalia | PHP, Java, C a bit |
| 01:22.33 | [floyd] | Kirkburn|Vista: Do you have RC2 installed already? |
| 01:22.41 | Kirkburn|Vista | Yup |
| 01:22.43 | Beladona | congratulations, these drivers are only a demo of what you MIGHT get when we finish developing drivers that work |
| 01:22.47 | Beladona | morons |
| 01:22.48 | Maldivia | Kaso: it wont... |
| 01:22.55 | Kirkburn|Vista | hehe, Beladona, so true |
| 01:23.09 | Beladona | thank goodness I stopped using Creative a while ago |
| 01:23.33 | Beladona | I got tired of sound cards that had conflicts with chipsets |
| 01:23.36 | Beladona | =P |
| 01:23.48 | Maldivia | Kaso: unless self is defined where you create the function? |
| 01:23.49 | [floyd] | Kirkburn|Vista: I wish I had a bit more HD space left on my laptop :/ How's the 'experience' so far? |
| 01:24.03 | Kaso | self always confused me |
| 01:24.07 | Kaso | so what do i need to use |
| 01:24.09 | Beladona | I havn't fired up RC2 yet. Any noticeable changes? |
| 01:24.10 | Kirkburn|Vista | nVidia manage to get out a new gfx driver about every two weeks ... creative haven't output a new Vista driver since Beta 2 ... unsurprisingly MS don't include it in the files as it's broken :/ |
| 01:24.30 | Maldivia | Kaso: Frame:Hide() would probably be better, if Frame is a local variable where you call the above |
| 01:24.54 | Kirkburn|Vista | Not much different to RC1 atm, main differences I've seen are updated icons and changed maximised borders |
| 01:25.10 | Maldivia | Kaso: ofcourse, if you want to have it for multiple frames, this:Hide() might work, can't remember how the fade functions work |
| 01:25.44 | [floyd] | Oddly enough, nVIDIA are extremely slow bringing out new drivers for my GeForce Go 7800.... Still have those from late last year. |
| 01:25.55 | Maldivia | Kaso: function tab:func() is syntax sugar for function tab.func(self) -- and calling tab:func)) is sugar for tab.func(tab) |
| 01:26.35 | Maldivia | so self is only defined for : functions, or if you specify it yourself |
| 01:26.35 | Kaso | umm, yes, i dont understand why that's relavant? |
| 01:26.39 | Kaso | oooh |
| 01:26.40 | Kaso | i see |
| 01:27.25 | Kirkburn|Vista | [floyd], what? There's been loads of new nVidia driver releases since last year |
| 01:27.37 | Kirkburn|Vista | Oh, I see it's a 'Go' model |
| 01:27.42 | Kaso | the reason i didnt just use Frame was in the code its attaully table[i] and it scared me cos i didnt know how the local i would permiate into the function() |
| 01:27.44 | [floyd] | Note: Having network issues or need to burn a CD for offline installation? Follow the manual installation instructions. |
| 01:27.56 | [floyd] | Uhm... that went wrong ^^ |
| 01:28.05 | [floyd] | Kirkburn|Vista: Yip, the mobile one. |
| 01:28.08 | Kirkburn|Vista | [floyd], visit LaptopVideo2Go.com |
| 01:28.15 | Kirkburn|Vista | I use it for my 6800 Go |
| 01:28.30 | [floyd] | Thanks! |
| 01:28.48 | Kaso | ok, this:Hide apparently hided UIParent :< |
| 01:28.49 | Kirkburn|Vista | nV doesn't support laptop cards normally, they leave it to the supplier (Dell, etc...) |
| 01:28.59 | Maldivia | lol |
| 01:29.12 | Kaso | Hid even |
| 01:29.18 | [floyd] | Kirkburn|Vista: That was the impression I got, unfortunately. |
| 01:29.40 | Kaso | so, would HzHeal.HealText[i].fadeInfo.finishedFunc = function()HzHeal.HealText[i]:Hide() end work? |
| 01:29.54 | Kirkburn|Vista | Tis true, but using the .inf file that that website makes, the cards work perfectly with normal drivers |
| 01:30.08 | Kirkburn|Vista | (not sure what the situation will be for Vista though) |
| 01:30.18 | Kirkburn|Vista | (probably much the same) |
| 01:30.23 | Kirkburn|Vista | Anyways, restarting to get sound |
| 01:30.45 | Maldivia | Kaso, yeah - or you could do: |
| 01:31.46 | Maldivia | frame.fadeInfo.finishedFunc = function(f) f:Hide() end |
| 01:31.50 | Maldivia | frame.fadeInfo.finishedArg1 = frame; |
| 01:32.00 | Kaso | aah, good idea |
| 01:32.12 | Maldivia | that way you can have the same function for all your fade-outs |
| 01:32.38 | Maldivia | actually, you should be able to do: |
| 01:32.45 | Maldivia | frame.fadeInfo.finishedFunc = f.Hide; |
| 01:32.47 | Maldivia | frame.Hide; |
| 01:33.19 | Kaso | hmm, lemme try that out |
| 01:33.29 | Maldivia | then when it's called with the Arg1 specified, it'll be frame.Hide(frame) == frame:Hide() |
| 01:35.03 | Kaso | it looks like this heal thing will work, the problem is having to target all the people in 20yrds range, lags a bit, so its not really pratical |
| 01:35.53 | Maldivia | why you need to target them ? |
| 01:37.12 | Kaso | i was about to say, so you could work out your name but you're right, theres a fontstring with it on attached to the frame isnt there |
| 01:37.22 | Maldivia | yep |
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| 01:37.37 | Maldivia | frame:GetRegions() - think it's index 4 or so |
| 01:37.46 | Kaso | man im stupid |
| 01:37.52 | Maldivia | there are 2 fontstings: name and level |
| 01:37.53 | Kaso | well that makes things easier |
| 01:38.12 | Maldivia | or actually, try frame:GetText() |
| 01:38.16 | Maldivia | might be button text? |
| 01:39.12 | Kirkburn|Vista | (we have sound :) |
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| 01:42.27 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 01:43.11 | Qzot | Anyone home? |
| 01:43.17 | Kirov | nope |
| 01:43.19 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.23 | Industrial | :3 |
| 01:43.37 | Qzot | That just tells me if the lights are on. :P |
| 01:43.42 | Qzot | And I'd already done one. |
| 01:44.00 | Industrial | well it should also tell you whos away ;o |
| 01:49.16 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/1418 Maldivia, help me find this Text :< that code isnt playing nice |
| 01:50.29 | Maldivia | check the regions instead then |
| 01:50.45 | Maldivia | ohh, you are :) |
| 01:51.04 | Maldivia | it's not regions of the statusbar, it's of the frame |
| 01:51.14 | Maldivia | so it should be val:GetRegions() |
| 01:51.58 | Kaso | damn, im making silly mistakes tonight |
| 01:51.59 | Kirkburn|Vista | Hey I just noticed, the channel has hit 100 users :O |
| 01:55.55 | Cairenn | been over 100 off and on for a few days now |
| 01:57.29 | Maldivia | well, some people are cheating, and having multiple clients idling |
| 01:57.58 | Qzot | cheaterscheaterscheaters |
| 01:58.00 | Cairenn | point |
| 01:58.00 | Kirkburn|Vista | Even so, cool :) |
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| 01:58.57 | Cairenn | I'm actually surprised, when they announced the changes, I almost expected to see more authors showing up in here to talk about them |
| 02:00.05 | Maldivia | I love the changes :) |
| 02:00.24 | Cide | oh wait... |
| 02:00.37 | Cairenn | lol, careful where you say that, some places you run the risk of being lynched ;) |
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| 02:00.56 | Maldivia | naah, Cide knows he'll be a hypocrit for dissing it :) |
| 02:01.04 | Cide | I have written so many tens of thousands of lines of code, and now Blizzard throws it all into the garbage can. GG Blizz. |
| 02:01.34 | Cide | (I do like the changes as well :) |
| 02:01.34 | Cairenn | you do like that quote, don't you? |
| 02:01.49 | Cide | :) |
| 02:02.02 | Cide | it's funny because it could very well have been me |
| 02:02.05 | Qzot | Wow. Iriel's TBC collected changes post is sure heating up. |
| 02:02.07 | Maldivia | Cide, you should... especially the raid-groupings :) |
| 02:02.52 | Cairenn | Cide: no it couldn't, because you actually bother to read the entire thing rather than succumb to the mass hysteria on half the info |
| 02:03.05 | Cide | yes, that's true of course |
| 02:03.16 | Cide | and as a priest, I actually like having to decide who to dispel again |
| 02:03.42 | Cide | hopefully the designers will stop designing encounters around mass dispelling though, that |
| 02:04.03 | Cide | that is borderline hell after a while* |
| 02:05.10 | Maldivia | well, considering it was the designers that pushed for this, so they wouldn't have to, I guess so |
| 02:05.34 | Cide | true |
| 02:05.45 | Cide | Noth will be interesting |
| 02:06.03 | Maldivia | who says it's bee as debuff heavy in the lvl 70 version? |
| 02:06.12 | End | yeah, the mass dispel fights need to go away |
| 02:06.13 | End | but... |
| 02:06.18 | End | you only have 25 people now anyways |
| 02:06.19 | Maldivia | Mass Dispell |
| 02:06.29 | Cide | yes, but fewer people :) |
| 02:06.38 | Maldivia | Naxx will still be 40 man |
| 02:06.52 | End | yeah, but you shouldn't need 40 people to clear naxx I would think |
| 02:06.58 | Maldivia | you might only be 25 people, but you're also fewer to dispel, so the number of people each have to dispell remains the same |
| 02:07.09 | Maldivia | End: there will be a lvl70 version of Naxx |
| 02:07.30 | End | erm what? |
| 02:08.01 | Maldivia | or did they change that again? |
| 02:08.26 | End | afaik, naxx isn't changing much if at all in the xpac |
| 02:08.37 | abug | they haven't decided on retroactively implementing the dungeon difficulty scaler yet |
| 02:08.56 | Maldivia | they said they would add "elite" editions of existing raid-instances |
| 02:09.02 | Maldivia | that was tuned to lvl70 players |
| 02:09.23 | End | they also said they wouldn't at one point...and that they were focusing on doing it only with new content |
| 02:09.25 | Maldivia | if that just means they add 20% health and damage to everything, dont know |
| 02:11.39 | abug | does anyone remember the name of the arcade style game where enemies drop down from the sky onto your little bases, and you click to shoot out a little line that collides with them and destroys them? |
| 02:12.25 | abug | but your cannon thing doesn't move, it sits in the center |
| 02:12.43 | End | missile command? |
| 02:12.54 | abug | hmm maybe that sounds right |
| 02:12.58 | abug | thanks |
| 02:13.10 | End | np |
| 02:14.01 | abug | yeah that's it cool |
| 02:16.39 | Corr[home] | unfortuantely, understanding the extent of the changes requires reading 10 pages of the discussion thread |
| 02:16.59 | End | yea |
| 02:17.11 | Maldivia | start on page 7, where slouken posted 10 posts of the changes |
| 02:17.11 | End | it's a fairly significant change |
| 02:17.20 | Maldivia | that should get you up to around 85% |
| 02:17.23 | End | yeah, that explains most of it |
| 02:18.09 | Corr[home] | and i'm still not sure if dynamically changing frames can't be clickable or just can't call spellcasting and targetting functions |
| 02:19.09 | Maldivia | while in combat: only frames that inherit the secure-templates can cast spells |
| 02:19.35 | Maldivia | but those frames can't be moved, shown or hidden while in combat (via scripting - can still be dragged to be moved) |
| 02:20.23 | Maldivia | the spells the buttons can cast are set via SetAttribute methods on the frame, but only when out of combat |
| 02:21.03 | Maldivia | see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32314250&sid=1 |
| 02:21.37 | Maldivia | for an example on how to set the attributes out-of-combat, and to really show how flexible the new templates actually are |
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| 02:28.13 | Kaso | Maldivia: check it outhttp://kasoo.net/img/imgs/healing_fun.jpg |
| 02:28.34 | Maldivia | nice :) |
| 02:29.17 | Kaso | gonna see if i can get it working without the nameplates visible |
| 02:29.35 | Corr[home] | whoa, healing values above the players themselves? |
| 02:29.56 | Kaso | mmhmm |
| 02:29.58 | Maldivia | yeah, by location the nameplates (WorldFrame:GetChildren() contains the nameplates) |
| 02:30.06 | Corr[home] | where does this come in? perhaps a newer version of SCT that i haven't investigated? |
| 02:30.21 | abug | oh hot |
| 02:30.32 | Kaso | this is something i just wrote, umm, the idea came from this channel a couple days ago |
| 02:30.51 | Corr[home] | i see, so that was the actual -point- of the image |
| 02:30.52 | Kaso | welll attuallly it was the guy who wrote the hide blue name plates addon that inspired us to talk about it |
| 02:31.03 | Kaso | yah |
| 02:31.13 | Maldivia | "the guy", also known as Gello :) |
| 02:31.19 | Kaso | ha, couldnt remeber his name |
| 02:31.29 | Kaso | ill have to give him lots of credit |
| 02:31.32 | Vanesco | guys.. how do i get this to include myself (being a hunter) |
| 02:31.33 | Vanesco | for i = 1,GetNumPartyMembers() do local _,englishClass = UnitClass("raid" .. i) if englishClass == "HUNTER" then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(UnitName("raid"..i))end end |
| 02:32.13 | Vanesco | for i = 1,GetNumRaidMembers() do local _,englishClass = UnitClass("raid" .. i) if englishClass == "HUNTER" then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(i.."")end end returns my raid id |
| 02:32.44 | Maldivia | you're mixing GetNumRaidMembers() and GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 02:32.53 | Maldivia | "raid##" <-- the player has one |
| 02:32.59 | Maldivia | "party#" <-- the player does not have one |
| 02:33.09 | Corr[home] | it surprises me to see, "if so will a Warrior still be able to have an addOn that goes though conditional logic and casts Charge, Intercept or Stance Dance depending on certain conditions such as InCombat, OnCooldown or CurrentStance? " on page 19 of the thread. i could have sworn it was obvious by this point that it can't be done. |
| 02:33.44 | Maldivia | Corr: it's the classic "write before you read" approach |
| 02:33.52 | Corr[home] | i know it's easy to get a little confused. i still have a question despite all these pages. |
| 02:34.02 | Vanesco | Maldivia: argh! ofc.. |
| 02:34.41 | Maldivia | corr: try asking here, together we can probably find the right answer :) |
| 02:34.43 | Vanesco | Maldivia: thanks :) |
| 02:34.53 | Vanesco | maybe i should get some sleep -_- |
| 02:34.59 | Maldivia | Kaso: it would be really nice, if there were a WorldFrame:GetNameplate(unit) function, right? |
| 02:35.20 | Corr[home] | Maldivia: i will, if it hasn't been answered by the time i reach the end of the new posts |
| 02:35.27 | Maldivia | Ok |
| 02:35.30 | Kaso | Ha, yes |
| 02:35.45 | Kaso | but then the chances of that happening are slim to 0 :< |
| 02:35.49 | Maldivia | why? |
| 02:36.14 | Maldivia | we have access to them now, via GetChildren, and they obviously have an internal list of them, so why not gives us this ? |
| 02:36.47 | Plorkyeran | We probably aren't supposed to have access to them, though |
| 02:36.58 | Plorkyeran | As they don't like telling us where things are in the game world |
| 02:37.15 | Maldivia | well, the nameplates aren't exactly telling us that either |
| 02:37.22 | Kaso | because it seems to me that they dont want us to know the location of units on our screen, this seems to be a slipup which will prob be fixe |
| 02:37.27 | Kaso | damn beaten |
| 02:37.40 | Kaso | but at least if i put this out they'll see what an awesome idea it is! |
| 02:37.57 | Corr[home] | i so strongly wish they hadn't decided to protect the targetting functions :( |
| 02:38.00 | Plorkyeran | They'll probably leave it alone until someone manages to do something with it, though |
| 02:38.03 | Maldivia | personally, I don't know why there isn't an option for healing text :) |
| 02:38.16 | Maldivia | well, you can't really use it for any measurements |
| 02:38.39 | Plorkyeran | Yeah, I don't think there's actually anything useful and bad you could do with it |
| 02:38.43 | Kaso | whats the font the default damage text uses? |
| 02:38.46 | Maldivia | since as soon as you get a bit close, the nameplates get's all jumbled |
| 02:38.59 | Maldivia | DAMAGE_TEXT_FONT = "Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF"; |
| 02:39.21 | Plorkyeran | But someone will probably figure out some reason for them to nerf it :P |
| 02:39.52 | Kaso | there's no font object i can borrow i guess |
| 02:40.18 | Maldivia | SystemFont perhaps ? |
| 02:40.34 | Maldivia | GameFontNormal, uses that font aswell |
| 02:40.58 | Maldivia | but can't remeber if it has an outline or not |
| 02:41.24 | Maldivia | but I don't really get why they've never added healing-done as head-text |
| 02:42.10 | Maldivia | Kaso: but if I were you, I'd probably create my own font, and use the content of the DAMAGE_TEXT_FONT variable as the font-path |
| 02:42.21 | Maldivia | since you can change it at runtime, and the font will change |
| 02:45.57 | Corr[home] | " there is *noone* .. repeat after me *noone* who can heal in a raid enviroment without clickcasting/smart rank mana conservation mod.. if they think they can.. they are completely and utterly deluded.. " |
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| 02:46.13 | Corr[home] | well, i've done just fine in a 20-man without click-casting and rank-choosing mods |
| 02:46.33 | Maldivia | and click-casting will work just fine :) |
| 02:46.36 | Corr[home] | indeed |
| 02:46.43 | Maldivia | Blizzard actually added native support for it :) |
| 02:47.43 | Maldivia | and I've raided fine for 1½ year now, without smart rank mana conservation selection mods... how did I ever manage? |
| 02:48.54 | Maldivia | have I grown accustomed to my own raid UI, that I felt very handicapped the other day, when I accedentially fubared it, so I had to disabled it: yes - but I managed without anyway :) |
| 02:49.42 | Maldivia | It's a habbit, people just need to get used to the new way... just like when Mana Conserve addons was disabled |
| 02:49.56 | Corr[home] | when was that? and what did they do? |
| 02:50.29 | Maldivia | Mana Conserve... automatic cancel spell casts, if the person got healed by someone else to an acceptable level |
| 02:50.45 | Corr[home] | i actually enjoy the finger dance of choosing my own spells to cast, but i was just so -happy- having addons show me consice lists of people who needed attention :( |
| 02:50.51 | Corr[home] | concise? |
| 02:51.31 | Maldivia | personally, when healing, I use click-casting for most common spells, and watch the unit frames in my raid UI |
| 02:51.52 | Maldivia | don't use any emergency meters etc |
| 02:52.10 | Corr[home] | i may have to start using click-casting so i don't have to lose my target to heal people |
| 02:52.35 | Corr[home] | sounds kind of handy |
| 02:53.12 | Maldivia | just having to for instance shift-click a unit frame to cast Flash Heal on that person, makes healing much more fluent |
| 02:53.30 | Maldivia | or ctrl-click to greater heal |
| 02:53.37 | Maldivia | rightclick to dispel |
| 02:54.14 | Maldivia | you'd normally click there anyway, to select that person |
| 02:55.11 | Corr[home] | questions yet remaining: can we switch action bars during combat? can we click a dynamic list to flash someone's name, but not target them? can we do something about mainassists dying and being reassigned during combat, thus making a mainassist display obsolete? |
| 02:55.18 | Maldivia | yes you can |
| 02:55.34 | Corr[home] | is that a yes to all 3? that was a pretty damn fast reply |
| 02:55.37 | Maldivia | you can swich action bars |
| 02:55.55 | Maldivia | you can still have an emergency list, you can't can't click it to select that person |
| 02:56.19 | Corr[home] | i should be more specific -- can an addon switch action bars during combat, such that when i'm in my druid prowl mode and attack someone, it will be able to switch back to the normal bar without me doing it myself? |
| 02:56.33 | Maldivia | yes |
| 02:56.46 | Corr[home] | i can't click on it to target that person, but will it be able to flash his name in the raid frame such that i can easily locate him and don't have to scan for his name? |
| 02:56.55 | Maldivia | I would surely hope so, since that's an essencial part of the default UI |
| 02:57.10 | Corr[home] | i don't understand what you mean by that |
| 02:57.16 | Maldivia | you can change color, flash it, etc - just not show/hide/move |
| 02:57.46 | Corr[home] | but i have not been assured that we can even still click on unprotected frames during combat at all |
| 02:58.04 | Maldivia | having action bars change according to stance/form... it's an essential part of the default UI, and I surely hope custom UIs will remain that possibility |
| 02:58.06 | Corr[home] | the language people are using suggests they're "unclickable" |
| 02:58.32 | Maldivia | only protected frames can be used to target and cast spells |
| 02:58.36 | Corr[home] | Maldivia: perhaps you aren't aware, but druids don't get a stealth bar like rogues do. i have an addon that switches for me. |
| 02:58.57 | Maldivia | forgot that... |
| 02:59.11 | Maldivia | but it still changes, when you go from bear to human etc, right? |
| 03:00.14 | Maldivia | think of unprotected frames as frames that are not able to get hardware-events, but otherwise function like they do now |
| 03:00.18 | Maldivia | that's how I see thiem |
| 03:01.25 | Corr[home] | i'm going to have to ignore that because it increases my confusion |
| 03:01.31 | Maldivia | hehe, ok |
| 03:01.46 | Corr[home] | i think perhaps you just aren't sure if we can -click- on frames that are moving around by themselves |
| 03:01.50 | Maldivia | basically, all the function that requires hardware-events now, will only be accessable via secure frames |
| 03:02.28 | Maldivia | we can click on them just fine, those frame just cant do anything that will use an action, cast a spell, target someone etc |
| 03:02.36 | Corr[home] | clicking on something is a hardware event, right? so we cannot click on anything that isn't a secure frame during combat? or do you mean just the functions of casting and targetting? |
| 03:02.57 | Corr[home] | alright. i think the answer to my question is definitely a yes, then. |
| 03:03.21 | Corr[home] | still not sure about that first one, but i can make a macro if i absolutely must. |
| 03:03.24 | Maldivia | you can make an unsecure frame, that flies around on the screen, and when you click it, you emote "I click the button" |
| 03:03.50 | Maldivia | but the "click" won't be seen as a hardware event, because it's an unsecure frae |
| 03:04.02 | Corr[home] | i think i understand, then |
| 03:04.12 | Corr[home] | they should give us back movement functions as secure functions, now. ;p |
| 03:04.52 | Maldivia | well, secure frames inherits the secure templates, that governs what we can use them for |
| 03:05.47 | Maldivia | which is currently: use action by id, cast spell by name, use pet action by id, use item by name, target unit by id, focus unit by id, show a menu |
| 03:05.49 | Corr[home] | what was my last question.. ah, yes, mainassists. i'm not so sure they'll even work at all. |
| 03:06.21 | Maldivia | you can make unit-frames for raidXtarget, and hope that your MT wont change raid-id during the encounter |
| 03:06.40 | Corr[home] | ah, yes. our raids are built on hope. |
| 03:07.31 | Corr[home] | AssistByName(SMA_MA) -- protected? |
| 03:07.31 | Maldivia | as long as people aren'y moved around in the raid during encounter, they will have the same raid-id |
| 03:07.46 | Maldivia | probably |
| 03:07.48 | Corr[home] | Maldivia: someone gets disconnected, it's all over. woot! |
| 03:07.52 | Maldivia | but you can in a macro: |
| 03:07.55 | Maldivia | /assist name |
| 03:08.00 | Corr[home] | a static name |
| 03:08.04 | Maldivia | yes |
| 03:08.23 | Maldivia | disconnect doesn't change raid structure, unless you auto-kick people that D/Cs |
| 03:08.45 | abug | death to d/cers |
| 03:09.08 | Maldivia | now now... my guild is called "Disconnected" :) |
| 03:09.56 | Corr[home] | the whole mainassist idea is pretty well dead, it seems to me. your only hope of assisting someone, then, is to manually target your mainassist every time you want to assist him, or to set up like five macros to assist people that you fill in before every raid, and edit during raids |
| 03:10.42 | Corr[home] | unless.. |
| 03:10.42 | Maldivia | I'm quite sure MT lists will still work |
| 03:11.08 | Corr[home] | a list of "mainassist" people and their targets, and you always assist the one highest on the list who isn't dead |
| 03:12.15 | Maldivia | The secure raid group templates has, iirc, an option to list after a set of names |
| 03:12.27 | Corr[home] | to list what? |
| 03:12.56 | Maldivia | it's the basic building block for raid UIs |
| 03:13.09 | Corr[home] | you totally lost me with your previous line |
| 03:13.16 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 03:13.23 | Corr[home] | i think i'm incorrectly parsing your grammar. please say it another way. |
| 03:14.25 | Maldivia | they've added a template for grouping people in raids, either by group number, class or a user-specified list of names |
| 03:14.40 | Corr[home] | i don't understand this "grouping" concept |
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| 03:14.54 | Corr[home] | actually, maybe i do. hang on. |
| 03:15.02 | Vanesco | anyone here using Fubar? |
| 03:15.14 | Maldivia | think pull-outs in the default raid UI - you can pull out a whole group, or you can pull out a class |
| 03:15.21 | Corr[home] | i believe i have, only ONCE, seen the default raid UI. it had people clumped together by class. |
| 03:15.33 | Maldivia | what raid UI are you using ? |
| 03:15.33 | Corr[home] | wait, no, that was x-perl's raid frame |
| 03:15.49 | Maldivia | can't you sort your raid UI after class or group they appear in ? |
| 03:15.54 | Corr[home] | i'm using perfectraid as my raid frame, now |
| 03:16.00 | abug | ~trout Corr |
| 03:16.01 | purl | ACTION slaps Corr around a bit with a large trout! |
| 03:16.14 | Corr[home] | people are sorted by class, yes |
| 03:16.33 | Corr[home] | there's no distinct separation among the classes other than color, however |
| 03:16.42 | Maldivia | yeah ok |
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| 03:17.21 | Maldivia | but think of a MA list, as a subset of the raid - which can be listed using this template, where you just specify the names of the people you want on the list |
| 03:18.20 | Corr[home] | arr, like the main tanks list has all the main tanks on it, the mainassists list can have more than one person displayed at a time |
| 03:18.29 | Maldivia | yes |
| 03:19.03 | Corr[home] | this'll all take some significant addon rewriting and arguing among people of how they want the addons to change. chaos. |
| 03:19.27 | Maldivia | well, this template to sort is implemented into the default UI, for the addons to use |
| 03:19.47 | Maldivia | Perfect raid already uses such a technique to sort by class |
| 03:19.57 | abug | does setting the focus target require a hardware event? |
| 03:20.01 | Maldivia | but instead of show individual frames for each class, it's one long list |
| 03:20.04 | Maldivia | yes |
| 03:20.38 | abug | QQ |
| 03:20.38 | Corr[home] | how will emergency monitors work? will they just be obsolete? will they send a message to your raid frame to flash names? will they just be a static list of people who become highlighted and so you can use it to target them? |
| 03:20.38 | Corr[home] | i can see debates, and it's not a pleasant idea |
| 03:20.41 | abug | it's up to the addon authors where they wanna go |
| 03:20.57 | abug | or they could just include multiple and let the user choose out of combat |
| 03:20.59 | Corr[home] | indeed, but if they take any input from other people, it could get nasty |
| 03:21.00 | Maldivia | emergency monitors will still work, you just can't click directly on the emergency list to target/heal that person |
| 03:21.19 | Maldivia | you'll have to find that person in the raid list instead - but the raid UI can highlight that person in the raid UI if it wants |
| 03:22.14 | Corr[home] | emergency monitors may well become obsolete if we rely on the raid frame to tell us who needs attention, now |
| 03:22.17 | Maldivia | for instance, instead of having a bottom-5 list, the bottom 5 could flash red on the raid UI instead |
| 03:22.40 | Corr[home] | one other thing that worries me is battleground performance |
| 03:22.58 | Maldivia | how so? |
| 03:23.12 | Corr[home] | perfectraid is kind of balls at showing me who is damaged and within range of healing. the halfassed fadeout isn't enough for me to quickly determine who i can heal. |
| 03:23.52 | Maldivia | the fade out will still work (unless they are restricting the range checking functions) |
| 03:23.56 | Corr[home] | and it's always highlighting people with colors i can't figure out |
| 03:24.25 | Corr[home] | Maldivia: i'm telling you it's not enough for me -now-, so even if it works the same in the expansion, i'd be lost unless i got some changes. |
| 03:24.50 | Corr[home] | currently, i require squishy, when in a battleground, to care about healing at all |
| 03:25.19 | Maldivia | checked if there's an option somewhere to change the amount of fade-out |
| 03:25.25 | Maldivia | or poke clad for such a setting |
| 03:26.19 | Corr[home] | there are generally few people within range at any point, and without a sorted list, i'm going to go mad trying to figure out who i should be healing :) |
| 03:26.40 | Maldivia | nameplates ! :) |
| 03:27.09 | abug | 1.0 alpha ftw |
| 03:27.23 | abug | zomg where'd my party go...oh they're out of range |
| 03:27.27 | Maldivia | well, you could change the fadeout, so their names were totally gone from the list, that way you could simply ignore them :) |
| 03:27.41 | Corr[home] | nameplates, i haven't even turned those on until 2 days ago. i'm still not sure if i want to use them, but it seems i must use them if i hope to heal at all |
| 03:27.53 | Corr[home] | hm. total fadeout may not be a bad idea when in a battleground |
| 03:28.13 | Corr[home] | i tell you, it would be nice to have a solid background behind praid so it's easier to read |
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| 03:28.25 | Maldivia | my raid ui hides the healthbars, and just type "out of range" with a grey text, so I can ignore thme :) |
| 03:29.39 | abug | poor CastParty devs |
| 03:29.44 | abug | I QQ for them |
| 03:29.51 | Maldivia | why ? |
| 03:30.26 | Maldivia | does it auto-select spell-rank ? |
| 03:30.29 | Corr[home] | (what is QQ, anyway?) |
| 03:30.35 | abug | yeah it did |
| 03:30.53 | End | why does gear in aq40 generally look so bad |
| 03:30.55 | Corr[home] | i like how perfectraid's wowi page says, "This description is somewhat out of date. I will do my best to get a new one up as I move forward, just been crazy busy." |
| 03:30.56 | abug | QQ is two crying eyes |
| 03:31.10 | Corr[home] | man, you must be using a different font than mine. :) |
| 03:31.17 | Corr[home] | *from mine |
| 03:31.32 | Maldivia | End: it's made of parts of silithids... what did you expect it to look like? |
| 03:31.49 | abug | <(Q_Q<) |
| 03:32.00 | End | well, I was hoping it wouldn't look so...bad :( |
| 03:32.13 | Maldivia | End: go go power rangers.. |
| 03:32.17 | End | lol |
| 03:33.32 | Maldivia | ohh well, time for me to get some sleep.. |
| 03:33.38 | abug | no |
| 03:33.50 | Maldivia | yes |
| 03:35.57 | Corr[home] | oww |
| 03:36.09 | abug | ~cheese Corr |
| 03:36.26 | abug | ~bonk Corr |
| 03:36.27 | purl | ACTION bonks Corr over the head |
| 03:36.29 | Corr[home] | a big area of skin on my right side is very sensitive to touch, with light pain whenever anything rubs against it, and has been for a couple of days, now |
| 03:36.52 | abug | you should get that checked out |
| 03:37.11 | Corr[home] | not easy when nobody's open saturday afternoon or sunday at all |
| 03:38.16 | Corr[home] | if anything changes color, i'm hitting the emergency walkin feature |
| 03:38.51 | abug | good stuff |
| 03:39.47 | Corr[home] | the fact that they'll want money for an examination, even if i receive no treatment, is a huge deterrant to bothering at all |
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| 04:05.22 | Vanesco | anyone down with dewDrop here? :) |
| 04:06.53 | Miravlix | with what are what what? |
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| 06:15.13 | malreth | RAWRA |
| 06:15.18 | malreth | rawr |
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| 06:15.43 | Cairenn | hi malreth |
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| 06:16.29 | malreth | there we go! |
| 06:16.42 | malreth | RAWR!!! |
| 06:16.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:17.24 | malreth | The trolls this season aren't as good as the ones from last time |
| 06:18.20 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:18.20 | malreth | they haven't really resorted to ad hominem attacks or anything like that |
| 06:18.20 | Iriel | malreth: You were on fire yesterday, nice job |
| 06:18.20 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 06:18.20 | malreth | ha ha ha |
| 06:18.20 | Cairenn | we've been enjoying the hell out of your responses |
| 06:18.57 | malreth | well, thank you for that. It makes he happy to hear that. |
| 06:19.00 | Cairenn | although I was rather proud of myself for one I got in yesterday |
| 06:19.01 | malreth | :) |
| 06:19.14 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32154765&postId=321623058&sid=1#17 |
| 06:19.14 | malreth | ooh! meesa read! |
| 06:19.35 | malreth | ZING! |
| 06:20.03 | cogwheel | (not to mention some who fully support the changes ;) ) |
| 06:20.04 | malreth | bonus points for effectively killing the thread |
| 06:20.28 | cogwheel | brb... installing sound drivers |
| 06:20.58 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32154363&postId=321325855&sid=1#76 |
| 06:21.26 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:22.05 | malreth | man, if wow forums had karma like the wowace ones, i would have been feeling the smites yesterday |
| 06:22.17 | Cairenn | oh yeah |
| 06:22.30 | Cairenn | but it doesn't make what you've been saying wrong |
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| 06:22.55 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 06:22.59 | purl | malreth scares me |
| 06:23.04 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:25.15 | malreth | ok... glad to know the mood is up up up here |
| 06:25.20 | malreth | off to bed |
| 06:25.25 | malreth | bye beee |
| 06:25.27 | Cairenn | sweet dreams |
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| 06:53.18 | Corr[home] | i still don't know how they plan to implement the whole secure frames still being able to target someone during combat but not changing -who- you can target |
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| 07:02.06 | ckknight | Corr[home], it's linked to "target", not a unit's name |
| 07:03.45 | FISKER_Q | I just hope it will be somehow possible to still change targets when dead |
| 07:03.52 | FISKER_Q | cause we can't change mainassist during combat |
| 07:03.58 | FISKER_Q | so if mainassist dies we can't use it anymore |
| 07:04.21 | ckknight | why wouldn't you be able to change targets? |
| 07:04.39 | FISKER_Q | because when you're dead you keep the same mob targetted for some reason |
| 07:04.47 | FISKER_Q | you can change target in the ui but it isn't reported |
| 07:05.04 | FISKER_Q | you just keep targetting the same target |
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| 07:46.06 | Corr[home] | ckknight_: i didn't understand what you said to me about something being linked to target |
| 07:46.43 | Corr[home] | although perhaps you mean positions, like "10th guy on the raid roster" |
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| 08:01.29 | AnduinLothar | oh ck. you might be able to set main assist as the /focus |
| 08:01.51 | AnduinLothar | course that requires changing your /focus manually |
| 08:11.16 | zenzelezz | gah... managed to fall from Felwood to Darkshore again |
| 08:13.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | what does /focus do? is that one of the new bc things? |
| 08:19.07 | Corr[home] | yes, but i'm not sure just what a focus is |
| 08:19.15 | Corr[home] | it may be like unto a secondary target |
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| 09:00.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | maybe it's like targeting without changing targets for stuff |
| 09:00.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | hell if i know |
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| 09:10.24 | Iriel | Think of focus as 'the sheep unit' |
| 09:19.38 | Wobin | Iriel: is it like another unit? |
| 09:19.50 | Iriel | Yes, it's just like "target" |
| 09:20.04 | Iriel | You get events for it, etc |
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| 09:34.41 | zenzelezz | dad asking me about PHP again :-| |
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| 10:37.37 | Shrike| | any ideas why this:GetId() would cause an error (OnClick handler for a drop down menu button) |
| 10:38.14 | Shrike| | i can get the name of the element with this:GetName() at the same point in the code, and it returns the name of the dropdown button :) |
| 10:43.22 | ckknight_ | I don't like forum trolls |
| 10:43.47 | zenzelezz | yeah... they don't even dance well |
| 10:45.03 | ckknight_ | I was talking about the new changes and how it could be a deterrent to botters |
| 10:45.13 | ckknight_ | so one guy started insulting me |
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| 10:46.20 | ckknight_ | oh well |
| 10:48.37 | ckknight | honestly, I don't know how the majority of real bots work, as I'm mostly speculating, but in my fanciful world, the ways I had thought of botting are now essentially crushed |
| 10:50.43 | ckknight | it is quite possible that one could develop a bot which didn't use any of the internal API, and just galavanted around, grinding and whatnot by faking keypresses, but it'd be quite tough to code, though not impossible. |
| 10:59.52 | Mery | I actually wonder how many of the people that quit because pvp got too boring for them (with all those "mindless players" using some one click addons) will come back |
| 11:03.56 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 12:29.20 | Kaso | oh, fun fun, time for another metatable hook |
| 12:29.22 | Kaso | they scare me |
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| 13:30.51 | Shrike| | heya |
| 13:31.18 | Shrike| | anyone run WoW with dual monitors? |
| 13:31.35 | zenzelezz | I do |
| 13:31.56 | Shrike| | are they the same size, or different? |
| 13:32.07 | zenzelezz | same |
| 13:32.10 | Shrike| | mm |
| 13:33.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | TBC UI is confusing wit all its secure stuff ;( |
| 13:34.04 | zenzelezz | I think it's mostly the UI telling addons to mind their own business |
| 13:34.55 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh i jsut hope set/get script will work then my addons will be fine :P |
| 13:37.05 | Shrike| | mine are a different size, and i can't get WoW to display on the bigger monitor at a res higher than the small one allows :) |
| 13:38.33 | Kaso | Anyone wanna point out the glaringly obveous error in my code thats clearly causing my problem |
| 13:39.37 | Shrike| | through telepathy? |
| 13:39.50 | Kaso | yes! |
| 13:40.28 | Kaso | Ok, here's the problem, im trying to have the PlayeNameplates Shown, without them being visible |
| 13:40.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | well i wnt mind ot loo kat ya code :P |
| 13:40.50 | Kaso | So what ive done is shown then then set theyre alpha to 0 |
| 13:41.36 | Kaso | now, for some reason thier alpha refreshes itself, so to stop that happening ive meta-hooked SetAlpha, to stop it |
| 13:41.57 | Kaso | but, not, when i try to make em invisible it aint happening |
| 13:42.45 | Kaso | code is here http://pastey.net/1423 line 47 and 180 are of most interest |
| 13:44.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO to confusing.. |
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| 13:46.13 | Kaso | i guess its not that clear what im doing |
| 13:46.22 | Shrike| | why do you want them shown but not visible? to extract the info? |
| 13:46.51 | Kaso | So i can attach my fontstring to them |
| 13:47.29 | Shrike| | is that not possible whilst their invisible? |
| 13:47.40 | Shrike| | theyre* |
| 13:48.27 | Kaso | whilst they're Hide()en no, the fontstring loses it's attachment to them and is just fixed in its location on the screen |
| 13:49.12 | Xavalia | that doesn't much sence |
| 13:49.23 | Shrike| | nurfed dkp does something like this (attaches DKP cost string to item tooltips) |
| 13:49.29 | Shrike| | maybe worth a look |
| 13:49.37 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe u can show thme but offscreen |
| 13:50.09 | Xavalia | btw is it possible to do type check of variable in an if statement? |
| 13:50.28 | Shrike| | yep |
| 13:50.31 | Shrike| | function type() |
| 13:50.34 | Xavalia | >.< |
| 13:50.38 | Xavalia | blegh ok.. |
| 13:50.47 | Xavalia | am used to is.. or get.. or set.. functions.. |
| 13:51.44 | Shrike| | well its a LUA function not a WoW API function |
| 13:51.50 | Kaso | Where's Maldivia when you need him ! |
| 13:51.59 | Xavalia | ment more in a general way Shrike| |
| 13:52.02 | Shrike| | :) |
| 13:53.43 | Kaso | is UIPanelFadeOut defined anywhere in the xml or is an api function? |
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| 13:54.06 | Shrike| | it'll be an API function I think |
| 13:54.11 | Shrike| | FrameXML |
| 13:55.02 | Kaso | UIParent.lua apparently |
| 14:14.51 | Xavalia | me loves lua test console |
| 14:16.34 | Gngsk | long time? |
| 14:17.12 | Xavalia | meh makes it easier with if statements testing |
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| 14:44.04 | Kaso | why is there even a tostring() function? |
| 14:44.35 | Kaelten | tostring(obj) |
| 14:44.41 | Kaelten | its handy |
| 14:45.05 | Kaso | surely the only thing you'd use it on is numbers, and they can be used as strings anyway |
| 14:46.21 | MoonWolf | you can use it on a lot of things. |
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| 15:10.54 | Mery | http://www.dvguru.com/2006/10/03/the-dvd-rewinder/ lol |
| 15:13.48 | Cairenn | heh |
| 15:15.56 | Cairenn | I'm getting a kick out of the comments. Amazing how many people don't understand a joke when they hear (see) one |
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| 15:29.51 | Kirochi | Hi there |
| 15:29.58 | Kirochi | I got a big problem right here |
| 15:30.10 | Kirochi | with wow |
| 15:30.18 | Kaso | sounds serious |
| 15:30.36 | Kirochi | yup |
| 15:30.43 | Kirochi | I was in stranglethorn |
| 15:31.08 | Cairenn | well there's your problem right there |
| 15:31.11 | Kirochi | i was just playing my hunter and i tried to summon my pet |
| 15:31.16 | Kirochi | and then all mobs disappeared |
| 15:31.19 | Cairenn | you were supposed to be in badlands |
| 15:31.22 | Kirochi | xD |
| 15:31.42 | Kirochi | then I came up with thinking that it was a bug |
| 15:31.49 | Kirochi | and I tried to cross the ocean |
| 15:31.49 | Kaso | Kirochi try deleting your WDB folder :> |
| 15:32.01 | Kirochi | I headed up to the southern island on the map |
| 15:32.17 | Kirochi | an then I reached the edge of the playable world |
| 15:32.24 | Kaso | hmmm |
| 15:32.35 | Kirochi | I took several screenshots and I couldn't move |
| 15:32.43 | Kirochi | I can't even close and/or disconnect wow |
| 15:32.53 | Kirochi | WDB folder ? |
| 15:32.56 | Cairenn | but did you remember to click your ruby shoes three times and say there's no place like home? |
| 15:33.19 | Kaso | ignore that bit |
| 15:33.25 | Kirochi | huh ? you think that'll help me ? |
| 15:33.30 | Kaso | just get a friend to add you to a BG queu to teleport you out |
| 15:33.35 | Kirochi | nope |
| 15:33.49 | Kirochi | all mobs and npcs and players disappeared together |
| 15:33.55 | Kirochi | I'm alone on the server |
| 15:34.04 | Kaso | oh, well then Alt F4 out and relog in |
| 15:34.07 | Kirochi | no |
| 15:34.13 | Kirochi | alt F4 doesn't work either |
| 15:34.33 | Kaso | Ctrl Alt Del and end task wow.exe |
| 15:34.43 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 15:35.04 | Kirochi | and isn't there any better mean to unlock my situation ? *wink* |
| 15:35.44 | Kaso | well, you can ofc play around a bit if you like, but GM island and all the intersting stuff is off the playable area |
| 15:36.09 | Kirochi | I told you I can't move |
| 15:36.29 | Kaso | then what do you mean ? |
| 15:36.30 | Cairenn | hearthstone? |
| 15:36.34 | Kirochi | the character is locked in 'falling in water' positio, |
| 15:36.41 | Kirochi | y'need a screen ? |
| 15:36.47 | Kirochi | no hearthstone doesn't work |
| 15:36.48 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.22 | Kaso | You've obveously become out of sync with the server some how, the only way your gonna do anything is by restarting wow i think |
| 15:37.47 | Kirochi | you sure ? The GM island sounds intersting |
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| 15:37.54 | Kirochi | (is it exploit anyway ?) |
| 15:38.03 | MoonWolf | ye |
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| 15:38.06 | zenzelezz | they do not appreciate people going there, no |
| 15:38.08 | MoonWolf | yes* |
| 15:38.11 | Kirochi | I know that |
| 15:38.18 | Cairenn | aye, get yourself banned :p |
| 15:38.27 | Kirkburn|Vista | Oooh, where? Hyjal? CoT? |
| 15:38.34 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 15:38.42 | Cairenn | well, if you don't want to do the three-fingered salute, you could try wishing on a falling star |
| 15:38.51 | Corr[home] | you say "they do not appreciate people going there", but you must be speculating. it's not accessible. |
| 15:38.52 | Kirochi | ok |
| 15:38.54 | Cairenn | remember to ask to be made into a real boy at the same time though |
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| 15:39.01 | Kirochi | ... |
| 15:39.04 | Kirkburn|Vista | haha |
| 15:39.04 | Kirochi | cairenn |
| 15:39.25 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 15:39.35 | zenzelezz | Corr[home]: well, if they wanted people to go there, it would be accessible |
| 15:39.37 | Cairenn | rofl, I'm sorry ... waaaaay too little sleep lately |
| 15:39.42 | Kirochi | aw c'mon, you lua geeks ain't able to help out ? |
| 15:40.02 | Kirkburn|Vista | What's the current topic of dicussion btw? |
| 15:40.03 | Corr[home] | indeed... but it's hard to dislike when somebody does something when it's literally impossible for them to do it |
| 15:40.16 | zenzelezz | if they do it then it isn't impossible |
| 15:40.26 | Kirochi | some guys already managed to get there |
| 15:40.32 | Kirochi | anyway |
| 15:40.42 | Kirochi | i just need to leave this |
| 15:40.55 | Kirkburn|Vista | Where, dammit, where? |
| 15:40.55 | Cairenn | solution was given |
| 15:41.03 | Cairenn | three finger salute |
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| 15:41.53 | Kirochi | I'd rather you gave me the one finger |
| 15:42.06 | Kirochi | http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ghqy8.jpg |
| 15:42.12 | Cairenn | ! |
| 15:44.38 | Corr[home] | i remember hearing, in the past, of people becoming ghosts or resurrecting or something in the wrong places |
| 15:45.05 | Kirochi | YUP? i JUST TRIED TO SUMMON MY PET |
| 15:45.10 | Kirochi | awn sry |
| 15:45.18 | Kirochi | http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanstitre98gv5.jpg |
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| 15:46.16 | Kirochi | http://img433.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanstitrelz3.jpg |
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| 15:51.04 | Corr[home] | seems slouken may have decided he's answered enough questions in the changes thread |
| 15:51.24 | Cairenn | hmmm? |
| 15:51.44 | Corr[home] | a few pages back, he said "okay, back to work..." and hasn't posted again since |
| 15:51.58 | Cairenn | ah |
| 15:52.10 | Cairenn | well, can't say as I blame him |
| 15:52.37 | Corr[home] | some of us are still a bit apprehensive about action bar changing during combat, for people not using the default UI who have stances/shapes |
| 15:53.39 | Cairenn | it's still not even in beta yet, let alone on PTRs, I doubt that a) they are finished and b) all the information is actually out yet |
| 15:53.46 | Corr[home] | arr. |
| 15:54.34 | Cairenn | I can understand folks being concerned, but the mass hysteria going on in the forums on partial information is just silly |
| 15:57.25 | Corr[home] | precisely why i've avoided reading much of anything except that one moderated thread |
| 15:58.24 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 15:58.53 | cogwheel | I think mass hysteria is always silly |
| 15:59.13 | cogwheel | except maybe when a nuke goes off or something... |
| 15:59.17 | Cairenn | heh |
| 15:59.19 | Corr[home] | i am saddened that i can't have my addons help me quite as much as before... but i can deal with it. i just need to customize my raid frame to be more helpful than it is right now. |
| 15:59.31 | Corr[home] | i've never relied on addons to choose what spells to cast for me |
| 16:00.13 | Cairenn | well, and I know what an ingenious group of people I'm sitting here talking to ... I have *no* doubt you guys will come up with good ways of working with the new UI |
| 16:00.27 | cogwheel | I'm curious about something... Say i use PerfectRaid (which I do). If someone joins the raid while we're in combat, will they have to be added to the end of the list and then sorted with everyone else once out of combat? |
| 16:01.22 | Corr[home] | as far as i'm aware, they can't be added to the list at all until you exit combat |
| 16:01.57 | cogwheel | that's kinda what i was afraid of... |
| 16:02.16 | Corr[home] | same goes for people actually leaving the raid. that could get a little messy if people leave during a boss battle and the positions shift around but your frames can't update. i imagine they'll do -something- about that. |
| 16:02.55 | Corr[home] | maybe they'll make your client actually not update the positions until after combat |
| 16:03.35 | zenzelezz | if someone leaves your raid or gets disconnected, your entire remaining raid will be ported to their HS location =D |
| 16:03.46 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 16:04.03 | Cide | smooth, simple. I like it. |
| 16:05.33 | Corr[home] | well, time for me to pack my stuff and get the fudge out, back to the dorm. [away] |
| 16:05.53 | Cairenn | later Corr[home] |
| 16:10.38 | cogwheel | Have you ever walked up to a Rich Thorium Vein, right-clicked and gotten the message "Requires Mining Pick"? |
| 16:18.41 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 16:23.18 | Kaso | i get that sometimes with skinning, the knife is always one of th first to be trashed cos its so cheap |
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| 17:35.59 | Tuller | I just took a look at the TBC changes thread today, and a guy insinuated that I did not play a healer. My avatar is my druid from when I raided :) |
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| 17:49.54 | Rallion | honestly, it's not incredibly difficult to heal with static unit frames and click-casting... |
| 17:52.10 | Plorkyeran | It's not difficult, just tiring for farm content |
| 17:54.53 | Rallion | i would say that just being a healer is tiring |
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| 19:14.14 | abug | heh I'm so mean, read slouken's subject line: |
| 19:14.16 | abug | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&postId=321322270&sid=1#407 |
| 19:19.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm still depressed about half my addons being wrecked :[ |
| 19:21.28 | abug | now is the time to beg for functionality |
| 19:25.49 | Iriel | Awww.. SetBindingClick doesn't allow for virtual buttons |
| 19:26.11 | Kirkburn | Mmm, a 8800GTX looks mighty tasty |
| 19:28.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh well, maybe this will pressure blizzard to make a healer UI |
| 19:28.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | if not, back to dpsing almost exclusively in raids :D |
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| 19:54.28 | Corrodias | arr, about healing being tiring: i read something in a post once about a guild officer who constantly has to deal with "healer burnout", which seems to support the idea that healing takes more effort, or work, or something |
| 19:56.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | not necessarily either of those, but the work versus the reward from tanking or dpsing is massively different |
| 19:57.15 | Kaso | one thing that constantly frustates me as a healer is i never stop, on a wipe, where a dps class would just sit back and wait to click the "accept" button, i have to be drinking, ressing buffing, then as soon as ive finished all that we're pulling again. |
| 19:58.30 | End | well, mages -do- have to buff too, although it is worst for a priest |
| 19:58.41 | End | (and maybe a pally, dunno how bad blessings are now) |
| 19:58.51 | Rallion | i would think pally is worse |
| 19:59.02 | End | yeah |
| 19:59.07 | End | I didn't think of pally at first |
| 19:59.11 | End | as I play horde side |
| 19:59.24 | Rallion | my first 60 was a pally |
| 19:59.35 | Rallion | but he's never even been to BRD |
| 19:59.54 | End | anyways, healers do have a burden of perfection, since usually if your healing sucks, you notice quickly |
| 20:00.25 | Kaso | mm |
| 20:01.00 | Corrodias | druids just have one buff, at least |
| 20:01.10 | Corrodias | i'm not quite as busy as the main healers |
| 20:01.30 | End | well, there's thorns too ;p ...but only a few want thorns |
| 20:01.35 | End | mostly the MT |
| 20:01.37 | Corrodias | also, can't get involved in the afterwards rezzing |
| 20:01.59 | End | but yeah |
| 20:01.59 | End | also |
| 20:02.06 | End | motw/gotw is CHEAP |
| 20:02.12 | End | it costs barely any mana |
| 20:02.18 | Rallion | Fort takes TONS |
| 20:02.22 | End | so does ai |
| 20:03.06 | Corrodias | did you guys get the harvest food conjurer item? that thing blows. i was expecting something at least vaguely, slightly useful. >_> |
| 20:03.13 | Kaso | mm, fort takes 1/2 my mana, but then we have inner focus which helps |
| 20:03.14 | End | it does blow |
| 20:03.21 | End | and I got it last year too |
| 20:03.34 | Kaso | Corrodias haha, if it did water i'd be worth a bag space |
| 20:03.36 | End | oddly, you can have two food conjurer things, but they both share cooldown |
| 20:03.43 | End | I agree |
| 20:04.15 | Corrodias | indeed, i want water, and i don't want to wait 12 hours for it |
| 20:04.36 | Corrodias | as it is, i'm highly tempted to just toss it, but i will hold out on a vain hope that blizzard revamps it |
| 20:04.50 | End | the harvest festival was around last year too |
| 20:04.55 | End | and they gave it then too |
| 20:04.57 | End | nothing happened |
| 20:05.03 | Kaso | i tossed last years one, i tossed this one too :> |
| 20:05.07 | End | same |
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| 20:31.54 | yammygirlcoding | hello everybody! :D |
| 20:32.03 | Kaso | hell |
| 20:32.04 | Kaso | o |
| 20:32.07 | yammygirlcoding | :D |
| 20:32.57 | yammygirlcoding | guys! have u seen a bug on blizz mod, that marks mobs with icons since last patch? Mine is putting all icons on myself If I try it. Any idea? =0 |
| 20:33.46 | yammygirlcoding | O.o |
| 20:34.28 | Xavalia | somebody has a mod then doing that |
| 20:34.36 | yammygirlcoding | hehe |
| 20:34.52 | yammygirlcoding | hmmm any clue of which one? |
| 20:35.50 | yammygirlcoding | like.. i have 100+ mods installed =) |
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| 20:36.02 | yammygirlcoding | please say u have heard that before hehe |
| 20:37.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | hrm, maybe its some kind of smart self cast mod gone horribly wrong |
| 20:42.30 | yammygirlcoding | hmm |
| 20:44.48 | Rallion | I have about 160 addons, so you're not the only one. |
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| 20:49.57 | Kaso | yammygirlcoding were you talking about Raid Target Icons? |
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| 21:20.33 | Guillotine | is Bela|AFK truly afk? Usualy half the "afk" people are here >.> |
| 21:22.41 | Mery | not really, for half the afk people the client makes a sound when you say their name and they come back |
| 21:23.47 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 21:24.19 | Guillotine | so is SpellTargetUnit being completely disabled in BC? |
| 21:24.52 | Mery | I'd assume so, though there are "new" ways to make the spell target a certain unit |
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| 22:02.51 | Breeze | hi |
| 22:03.08 | Cairenn|afk | hi |
| 22:03.42 | Breeze | does anybody know if it's possible to get the realmname from someone in the raid? (for in the BG's) |
| 22:07.42 | ckknight | Breeze, UnitName("unit") |
| 22:07.48 | ckknight | returns "name", "realm" |
| 22:08.01 | Mery | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitName |
| 22:08.36 | Breeze | thanks :) |
| 22:09.17 | Breeze | I'd have to use name .. "-" .. realm to send a whisper right? |
| 22:09.45 | Mery | (from what I read, never did it myself: yes) |
| 22:10.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah, and it returns realm name like KirinTor |
| 22:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | not Kirin Tor |
| 22:11.16 | krka | note that realm is nil if it's the same realm as yours |
| 22:12.02 | Breeze | and it only works in the battlegrounds right? |
| 22:12.35 | Breeze | silly hacks from blizzard :S |
| 22:12.58 | krka | well... it's only in battlegrounds you could find people from other realms :P |
| 22:13.18 | Breeze | yea, but now I have to add an extra check to my script |
| 22:13.49 | krka | i see |
| 22:13.59 | krka | just make a function: |
| 22:14.34 | krka | function whisperName(unitId) local name, realm = UnitName(unidId) if realm then return name .. "-" .. realm else return name end end |
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| 22:29.40 | Cairenn|afk | anyone else getting login error on the forums? |
| 22:29.58 | Plorkyeran | It's saying my username or password is invalid |
| 22:30.13 | Cairenn|afk | okay, so forums are just borked again and it isn't me |
| 22:30.43 | Plorkyeran | Account management page is broken too |
| 22:38.50 | Bela|AFK | did someone need me? |
| 22:40.10 | Kaso | Guillotine did eariler |
| 22:40.20 | Kaso | but he appears to be gone |
| 22:40.43 | Industrial | I cant get the texture on my healthbar to show. http://pastey.net/1432 |
| 22:40.50 | Industrial | I am seeing the Background though |
| 22:41.18 | Industrial | the teture is there, btw hehe |
| 22:42.09 | Industrial | oh wait maybe because it doesnt have a value yet :P |
| 22:42.40 | Industrial | or knows wat kind of unit... sigh.. Im really just doing something hoping ill figure out how it works |
| 22:43.29 | Industrial | StatusBar:SetMinMaxValues(min, max) - Set the bounds of the bar. |
| 22:43.30 | Industrial | ??? |
| 22:43.48 | Iriel | I think you get to pick your own units |
| 22:43.59 | Iriel | As long as you're consistent between the min/max and current value |
| 22:45.02 | Industrial | yeah but where do I tell it 'hey you are the health if this unit right here' |
| 22:45.26 | Industrial | oh wait in an update function ofcource |
| 22:45.42 | Iriel | An OnEvent most likely, for health |
| 22:45.46 | Industrial | yeah |
| 22:46.19 | Industrial | but what if I do Healthbar:SetMinMaxValues(0, 100) HealthBar:SetValue(100) |
| 22:46.22 | Industrial | still nada |
| 22:46.24 | Industrial | heh |
| 22:46.37 | Iriel | Did you set the status texture? |
| 22:46.44 | Iriel | for the bar |
| 22:46.51 | Industrial | yea |
| 22:46.53 | Iriel | I dont recall the name of the method for that. |
| 22:46.55 | Iriel | Hm |
| 22:47.04 | Industrial | line 60 in the paste |
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| 22:48.25 | Iriel | Industrial: : You dont anchor your healthbar anywhere |
| 22:48.38 | Industrial | eh, oops |
| 22:51.14 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/1434 |
| 22:51.56 | Industrial | ill get the SetValue in a function later ofcource |
| 22:52.09 | Industrial | but still only the background :S |
| 22:53.02 | Industrial | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_100906_005221a82.jpg |
| 22:53.03 | Industrial | :) |
| 22:53.33 | Beladona | I have an addon you can use as an example if you want |
| 22:54.00 | Industrial | sure |
| 22:54.39 | Beladona | I have a standard status bar that I use to spawn several different ones |
| 22:54.44 | Beladona | getting link, one sec |
| 22:54.50 | Industrial | roger :) |
| 22:57.02 | Beladona | http://wow.pastey.net/1435 |
| 22:57.13 | Beladona | bear in mind that is a draggable status bar, so you may not need all of that |
| 22:57.27 | Industrial | they will be draggable - but I know how to do that :) |
| 22:57.47 | Beladona | my whole addon is about making draggable status bars |
| 22:58.08 | Beladona | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4396 |
| 23:00.38 | cogwheel | How come I never saw the "The sky isn't falling" thread yesterday? ... :\ |
| 23:01.05 | Beladona | becasue you were too busy running for your life? |
| 23:01.14 | cogwheel | i guess so... |
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| 23:12.13 | Breeze | What's the best way to check if you're in a battleground. I'm getting lost in all the functions.. |
| 23:12.41 | Industrial | its working and i dont know exactly why |
| 23:12.47 | cogwheel | One of the simplest is GetRealZoneText() |
| 23:12.51 | Industrial | but thanks anyway Beladona :D |
| 23:13.13 | cogwheel | you'd have to localize it, but that shouldn't be too hard |
| 23:15.21 | cogwheel | or you could look here: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldStatus |
| 23:15.32 | Kaso | if you could use GetBattlefieldStatus(i) the first return is none, queued, confirm, active or error |
| 23:15.45 | cogwheel | you'd cycle through the different indexes (like in the example) and then check to see if any of them are active |
| 23:16.18 | Kaso | damn you cogwheel! |
| 23:16.28 | cogwheel | :( |
| 23:16.51 | Breeze | thanks |
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| 23:30.01 | Bh | Does anyone know an easy way to allow FrameXML.log to capture more information? not finding anything on wowwiki |
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| 23:39.47 | warla | howdy |
| 23:40.01 | warla | can i annoy someone with a noob lua question? |
| 23:40.53 | warla | lets say i have an image and i want that one clipped... does this work? lets say i have a 512 x 512 sized image but i only want to show a 128x128 square out of that |
| 23:42.56 | cogwheel | warla: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord |
| 23:43.08 | warla | checking.. |
| 23:43.21 | cogwheel | Bh: there shouldn't be... XML processing is handled outside of the control of addons |
| 23:45.37 | warla | ok i c |
| 23:46.02 | warla | can i "scroll" the bigger immage using http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord ? |
| 23:46.21 | warla | so its like scrolling down the bigger image in the 128x128 wondow i show? |
| 23:46.27 | warla | by changing the coords? |
| 23:46.42 | cogwheel | Should be able to... Just call SetTexCoord in the OnUpdate (or whatever other event you use to do the "scrolling") |
| 23:46.52 | warla | sweet |
| 23:47.22 | warla | so basically its possible to slap an image from an instance mapp lets say stockades... and "emulate" the minimap |
| 23:47.36 | warla | by moving the image according to your coordinates where you stay |
| 23:47.52 | cogwheel | It would be if you had a way to access your location in an instance ;) |
| 23:48.05 | warla | theres none`? |
| 23:48.09 | cogwheel | nope |
| 23:48.15 | warla | please tell me you were just kidding |
| 23:48.16 | warla | :-( |
| 23:48.19 | cogwheel | map coords are based on the world map |
| 23:48.24 | cogwheel | there is no world map for instances |
| 23:48.26 | warla | dammit |
| 23:48.43 | warla | so theres no way you get your position in an instance? |
| 23:48.48 | cogwheel | nope |
| 23:48.52 | warla | ./shoot blizz devs |
| 23:49.11 | cogwheel | They did that on purpose |
| 23:49.18 | warla | lol |
| 23:49.23 | warla | what for? |
| 23:49.31 | JoshBork1 | range checking on a boss for one |
| 23:49.49 | warla | whats the problem with range checking on boss? |
| 23:50.03 | cogwheel | mostly to prevent botting |
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| 23:50.15 | warla | ohh i c |
| 23:50.31 | warla | so the chinnese crap farmers cannt teleport around in instances anymore? |
| 23:50.43 | warla | like they did in DM... |
| 23:50.53 | cogwheel | i think that was a game engine glitch |
| 23:50.58 | warla | i c |
| 23:51.23 | warla | man i saw a movie with a fucken ebay farmer teleporting around in DM soloing all the bosses of DM north |
| 23:51.45 | warla | thats why quel serrar is now noob'serrar... every noob on my realm has that |
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