| 00:01.33 | warla | you can read all from a mail |
| 00:01.37 | warla | except the text |
| 00:01.50 | warla | if you read the mail text it'll cut down timer on mail to 3 days |
| 00:01.57 | Corrodias | is there any way to have a macro on an action bar show a cooldown? |
| 00:02.02 | warla | so as long as you dont read the text with lua functions it leaves it alone |
| 00:05.14 | Kirov | Corrodias - /script -- CastSpellByName("Spell Name") as the first line |
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| 00:10.50 | MikkZzz | grabbing an item or cash out of the mail also reset to 3, no? |
| 00:11.13 | MikkZzz | as in "moving it to your inventory" |
| 00:11.15 | Kirov | Taking the item, yes |
| 00:11.29 | MikkZzz | what am i doing here. i'm supposed to be sleeping >.< |
| 00:11.31 | Kirov | Or even attempting to |
| 00:11.49 | MikkZzz | purl, whaleslap me |
| 00:11.51 | purl | ACTION beats mikkzzz upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 00:13.20 | JoshBork1 | hola |
| 00:14.53 | Cairenn | hi JoshBork |
| 00:16.34 | Cairenn | MikkZzz: sweet dreams |
| 00:17.07 | JoshBork1 | night MikkZzz |
| 00:17.14 | JoshBork1 | yay! i fixed my email server! woohoo! |
| 00:17.17 | Qzot | Laters. |
| 00:17.32 | Qzot | Chow. |
| 00:17.40 | Cairenn | later Qzot :) |
| 00:17.56 | JoshBork1 | ciao |
| 00:18.09 | Qzot | No. Chow. I'm going home to eat. :D |
| 00:18.25 | Cairenn | Qzot: you'd better not be eating chow |
| 00:18.34 | Qzot | Not yet. But soon. |
| 00:18.56 | JoshBork1 | like the dog chow? yum |
| 00:19.14 | Cairenn | hard |
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| 00:20.36 | JoshBork1 | :-D |
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| 00:20.51 | Cairenn | JoshBork: my family used to have a kennel ... guess what type of dog we bred and showed? |
| 00:22.10 | Kirov | Obviously a labador |
| 00:22.11 | zenzelezz | trick question |
| 00:22.14 | JoshBork1 | corgie? |
| 00:22.18 | Kirov | (chow) |
| 00:22.25 | JoshBork1 | st. bernard was going to be my second guess |
| 00:22.36 | Kirov | corgies rule |
| 00:22.46 | Cairenn | buncha smartasses, the lot of yas |
| 00:22.53 | JoshBork1 | Kirov: i think so too. but they're kinda odd looking |
| 00:22.58 | JoshBork1 | big round body and short stubby legs |
| 00:23.20 | JoshBork1 | the dog i grew up with was a corgie/collie mix. |
| 00:23.22 | Cairenn | corgies are one of the very few small dog breeds that I actually count as "dogs" |
| 00:23.31 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/Pico04.jpg - crappy cell phone image of my dog |
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| 00:24.02 | JoshBork1 | Cairenn: you know you love us :-D |
| 00:24.17 | Kirov | Apart from being about 10 pounds fatter, he looks the same now. |
| 00:24.28 | Kirov | Full grown |
| 00:24.53 | Cairenn | obviously I must, otherwise why in [insert belief of your choice here]'s name would I put up with you guys? |
| 00:25.53 | AnduinLothar | you are way too pc for your own good |
| 00:26.19 | Cairenn | you know what? I think I'm going to develop a new acronym ... [iboych] |
| 00:26.33 | JoshBork1 | AnduinLothar: get any new phat lewts for your paladin? |
| 00:26.37 | AnduinLothar | ibyotch |
| 00:27.05 | Corrodias | Kirov: so i take it there's no way to specify a cooldown on a macro for a spell when you don't want it to cast the spell? |
| 00:27.08 | Cairenn | naw, when saying that, I just flat out say it ;) |
| 00:27.08 | Iriel | Wouldn't it be [idoych] ? |
| 00:27.26 | Cairenn | d? |
| 00:27.36 | Kirov | Corrodias - /script -- CastSpellByName("Spell Name") |
| 00:27.36 | Iriel | or for the fundamentalists [iDoych] |
| 00:27.37 | Cairenn | diety? |
| 00:27.58 | Kirov | Corrodias - the -- is a comment, ie: the CastSpellByName doesn't get run |
| 00:28.11 | Cairenn | ah, but not all belief systems have deities |
| 00:28.38 | Iriel | But "Why in Judaism's name would I put up with you guys?" really doesn't work |
| 00:28.53 | Cairenn | no, but "why in science's name" does |
| 00:29.00 | Iriel | How about doacsc? |
| 00:29.10 | Iriel | Deity or alternative canonically significant character? |
| 00:29.20 | Cairenn | still doesn't work |
| 00:29.25 | Kirov | actually, "in christianity's name" works |
| 00:30.01 | JoshBork1 | oh dear |
| 00:30.09 | AnduinLothar | yeah |
| 00:30.16 | Iriel | [your choice of spiritual or other significant noun] ? |
| 00:30.32 | AnduinLothar | why not just use a fucking curse word |
| 00:30.48 | End | lol |
| 00:30.49 | zenzelezz | because that's lame |
| 00:30.58 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: becuase that isn't fucking politically correct, you dumb shit |
| 00:31.06 | End | haha |
| 00:31.14 | AnduinLothar | lame... so you're trying to be cool? when did pc become cool? |
| 00:31.16 | End | you guys are silly |
| 00:31.20 | End | :P |
| 00:31.47 | zenzelezz | there's a difference between trying to look cool and trying not to look lame |
| 00:32.11 | zenzelezz | either way, if you're so concerned about the belief system thing, why not just use "why on earth" or some other expression? |
| 00:32.12 | AnduinLothar | so you onyl half care |
| 00:32.22 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: actually, I'm not trying to be cool, I just happen to very firmly believe that everyone has a right to their belief system and I do my best to not unintentionally hurt someone |
| 00:32.35 | AnduinLothar | then don't bother using that slang |
| 00:32.41 | Corrodias | Kirov: AH, thanks to you |
| 00:32.59 | AnduinLothar | and josh... i haven't gotten any good loot recently |
| 00:33.03 | Iriel | What if someone doesn't believe in Earth? |
| 00:33.16 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: besides which, it leads to amusing conversations as we try to come up with silly acronyms |
| 00:33.18 | AnduinLothar | finally got myself a lei |
| 00:33.30 | Iriel | You got lei'd? |
| 00:33.38 | Iriel | *cymbal crash* |
| 00:33.39 | AnduinLothar | and tier 2 shoudlers got defaulted to me |
| 00:33.45 | End | what does "believe in earth" mean anyways? that you believe it exists? or what? |
| 00:33.52 | JoshBork1 | i am still sitting on a single piece of T2 (helm) |
| 00:34.07 | Kirov | JoshBork1 - The easy peice to get |
| 00:34.07 | zenzelezz | who says anything about believing in earth? |
| 00:34.23 | JoshBork1 | Kirov: yea. i'm holding out on Lok and Rejuvenating Gem in BWL |
| 00:34.24 | Kirov | I don't believe in earth, only Azeroth. |
| 00:34.34 | Iriel | Maybe you believe you're merely trapped within a complex neurostimulating simulation but actually are present on Colony ship ZZ/421/Alpha ? |
| 00:34.47 | AnduinLothar | i didn't get my helm till i had my pant already |
| 00:35.01 | End | too bad I don't believe in Azeroth, but only Argus |
| 00:35.11 | Kirov | Iriel - You're in ZZ/421/Alpha?! zomg, I'm in 422! |
| 00:35.35 | AnduinLothar | i was saving for a askandi |
| 00:35.39 | Cairenn | and what about those that believe that our entire existence is actually merely the dream of some other being and as soon as they wake we will cease to exist? |
| 00:35.43 | Iriel | Kirov: I hear you guys have the best bionutriant suspension fluid in the fleet! |
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| 00:35.50 | AnduinLothar | but they made me take the shoulders right before they dropped |
| 00:36.09 | JoshBork1 | ouch, that sucks |
| 00:36.55 | zenzelezz | if your guild forces an item on you, you shouldn't have to pay for it o_O |
| 00:36.56 | AnduinLothar | and since then nothing good has dropped that I would have taken. I bid on cloak of consentrated hatred but they gave it to a rogue |
| 00:37.08 | AnduinLothar | it's not dkp |
| 00:37.13 | End | oh, that's why I died |
| 00:37.16 | End | I got ganked |
| 00:37.28 | End | I thought that bloodscalp warrior was just hitting me really hard |
| 00:37.45 | AnduinLothar | and if i had gotten the guild first askandi i thinkt he warrior would have killed me |
| 00:39.20 | AnduinLothar | but we're going after our saurtura today. hopign for a first kill |
| 00:39.33 | JoshBork1 | good luck! |
| 00:39.43 | Kirov | AnduinLothar - what class? |
| 00:40.01 | AnduinLothar | atm tho i'm in a pug zg, that my guild ninja from another guild |
| 00:40.28 | AnduinLothar | the guild that was running it left after 2 hakkar wipes and a guy from my guild somehow got leader |
| 00:41.31 | End | huh, are you in the same guild you've always been in, AnduinLothar? I thought you were a lot farther raid progression wise than I am... |
| 00:41.45 | zenzelezz | I have some guildie warriors that are a bit annoyed at me for some of the loot I've got... but they just weren't there when it dropped :) |
| 00:42.00 | zenzelezz | (I'm a relative new guy in the guild) |
| 00:42.06 | zenzelezz | relatively |
| 00:42.18 | AnduinLothar | pally, we've got nef on farm now |
| 00:42.25 | AnduinLothar | but jsut started aq40 |
| 00:43.29 | warla | <3 AQ20 |
| 00:43.32 | warla | 40 |
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| 00:55.11 | warla | can the ToC file contain subdirs? |
| 00:55.13 | warla | for lua files |
| 00:55.15 | warla | like |
| 00:55.16 | warla | localization/enUS.lua |
| 00:55.17 | Iriel | Yes |
| 00:55.19 | warla | wowprofiles.lua |
| 00:55.19 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 00:55.22 | AnduinLothar | eer |
| 00:55.23 | warla | yes or nope? |
| 00:55.46 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 00:55.54 | warla | k |
| 00:56.19 | AnduinLothar | there's some restriction, i forgot what it was |
| 00:56.20 | MentalPower | yes |
| 00:56.43 | MentalPower | you can't go outside of WoW.exe's home dir |
| 00:56.51 | MentalPower | but otherwise yes |
| 00:57.01 | AnduinLothar | mmm, there was somehting else |
| 00:57.15 | MentalPower | if you remember I'd love to hear it |
| 00:57.41 | AnduinLothar | oh i remember. it wasn't with toc. it's with xml loading |
| 00:57.59 | AnduinLothar | you can't subdir load lua files in the xml |
| 00:58.11 | AnduinLothar | but you can subdir load xml files |
| 00:58.32 | AnduinLothar | but if you put it all int he toc it's fine |
| 00:59.45 | AnduinLothar | so for embeeded loading you either have to load everything int he toc or load the xml and have it load the rest of the files. you can't load an embedded lib entirely from the parent's xml file |
| 01:00.02 | AnduinLothar | not something most peopel worry about |
| 01:00.28 | MentalPower | ah, gotcha |
| 01:09.35 | Cairenn | later Iriel|Away |
| 01:09.38 | warla | hmm |
| 01:09.39 | warla | question |
| 01:09.52 | warla | in the enUS.lua i have the following: |
| 01:09.52 | warla | wordings = {} |
| 01:09.52 | warla | wordings["spellbook"] = "Please open your Spellbook."; |
| 01:10.06 | warla | why does the wowprofiles.lua not see that variable? |
| 01:11.06 | warla | ? |
| 01:11.54 | MentalPower | how are you accessing it? |
| 01:12.18 | MentalPower | also, is wordings a local variable to enUS.lua? |
| 01:12.23 | warla | ya |
| 01:12.36 | warla | how do i make it visible for all other luas that follow? |
| 01:12.39 | MentalPower | that wou;d be your problem :) |
| 01:12.57 | MentalPower | you need to make it global |
| 01:13.08 | MentalPower | or at least globally accessible |
| 01:13.17 | warla | how do i do that? |
| 01:13.23 | warla | i only made vars local xxx = |
| 01:13.27 | warla | never used a global hehe |
| 01:13.48 | MentalPower | how do the files communicate with each other? |
| 01:14.27 | MentalPower | or do you just have one file? |
| 01:14.27 | warla | they dont so far... all i want is have language files |
| 01:14.27 | warla | so the wowprofiles.lua accesses the strings from the other ones |
| 01:14.28 | MentalPower | you need a global |
| 01:14.53 | warla | how do i declare the global? global xxx = "xxx"; instead local xxx = "xxx"; ? |
| 01:15.07 | MentalPower | nop, just leave the local out |
| 01:15.17 | MentalPower | variables in Lua are default global |
| 01:15.21 | warla | ahh ok |
| 01:15.30 | warla | so |
| 01:15.31 | warla | wordings = {} |
| 01:15.31 | warla | wordings["spellbook"] = "Please open your Spellbook."; |
| 01:15.37 | warla | wordings is now a global? |
| 01:16.11 | MentalPower | I suggest you do: |
| 01:16.12 | MentalPower | WoWProfiles_Wordings = {} |
| 01:16.14 | MentalPower | WoWProfiles_Wordings["spellbook"] = "Please open your Spellbook."; |
| 01:16.19 | MentalPower | to avoid namespace collisions |
| 01:16.22 | warla | k |
| 01:20.10 | warla | hmm that doesnt work |
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| 01:20.20 | warla | said "attempted to index a global blabla (nil value) |
| 01:20.31 | warla | do i need to tell a function what globals to read |
| 01:20.49 | warla | or should functions have automatically access to globals? |
| 01:22.35 | zenzelezz | wouldn't be very global otherwise |
| 01:23.10 | warla | so why does my function not see the global? :-/ |
| 01:23.34 | warla | if (tooltipString==1) then Message = wowprofiles_wordings["spellbook"] end; |
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| 01:31.53 | warla | any idea why my globals dont work? |
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| 01:42.02 | Kirkburn|afk | Tem, pong! |
| 01:42.09 | Tem | oh hey Kirkburn |
| 01:42.21 | Kirkburn | The original font is on the website :) |
| 01:42.30 | Tem | What versino of CF though |
| 01:42.47 | Tem | I just updated and put the right font in it, but some things look different |
| 01:42.52 | Tem | so I just wanna revert |
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| 01:43.33 | Kirkburn | The one where the numbers have different heights is 0.9 |
| 01:47.51 | Tem | the only versions I see are v11100-1 -2 and -3 |
| 01:53.26 | Kirkburn | Tem, when you say different, what do you mean? |
| 01:53.37 | Tem | the damage font looks different now |
| 01:53.48 | Kirkburn | Do you use SCT? |
| 01:53.51 | Tem | no |
| 01:54.21 | Kirkburn | Oh, wait - I think someone else told me about that ... it doesn't have a shadow when it should? |
| 01:57.14 | Kirkburn | There are two different font packs online which have slightly different versions of the original font. The main files are just updated each time to make sure it covers any changes made by Blizz - there shouldn't be major 'design' changes between them |
| 01:57.32 | Kirkburn | (when I say main files, I'm talking about v11000-1, etc..) |
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| 02:27.47 | KaeltenAway | gnight guys |
| 02:27.58 | Cairenn | night KaeltenAway, sweet dreams |
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| 02:49.55 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep, sweet dreams |
| 02:53.27 | Xuerian | Is there any other way to get class requirements on a item, other than tooltip scanning? |
| 02:55.39 | MentalPower | nop, tooltip scanning == only way |
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| 03:00.49 | Corrodias | how amusing, some of my guildmates pronounce "hakkar" as "hacker" |
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| 03:02.47 | Kirov | heh |
| 03:02.54 | Kirov | Xuerian - tooltip scanning isn't so bad |
| 03:02.57 | Corrodias | this is, as far as i'm aware, our first try on hakkar. we've wiped twice on the trash mob patrols, which is hilarious considering how quickly we did the rest of the place |
| 03:03.32 | zenzelezz | well, those patrols are mean, especially the big one |
| 03:03.35 | Corrodias | arr. |
| 03:03.42 | Kirov | Those large trash mob groups are really hard if you don't know what to do. |
| 03:04.05 | Kirov | My old guild, idiots would keep trying to tank the Blood Priets |
| 03:04.07 | Xuerian | Sleep the big ones, kill the rest XD |
| 03:04.29 | Xuerian | Anyway, Kirov: If you've got a lib or example or advice and or suggestions, go for it :P |
| 03:04.39 | Corrodias | we have plenty of mages and druids. we just panic too easily. |
| 03:04.48 | Kirov | Xuerian - erm ... gratuity? |
| 03:04.53 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 03:05.02 | Xuerian | Really? That's what that is? <.< |
| 03:05.20 | Kirov | Xuerian - it's a tooltip scanner lib |
| 03:16.39 | MentalPower | Some of Pastey.net's backend is going to be updated. Transition should be seamless, but you never know. |
| 03:17.56 | Cairenn | thanks MentalPower :) |
| 03:18.03 | Xuerian | Well I'll be damned, it is, Kirov =O <3 |
| 03:18.27 | Xuerian | And what're the upgrades, MentalPower? =P |
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| 03:18.44 | MentalPower | Updating vim to 7.0 |
| 03:18.47 | norgs | speed improvements |
| 03:18.54 | Xuerian | Nice ^_^ |
| 03:18.58 | MentalPower | oh hey a norgs! |
| 03:19.31 | norgs | just making it a little bit faster (hopefully) |
| 03:19.35 | Kirov | Is the code window going to be made bigger? |
| 03:19.45 | norgs | i *could* do that :) |
| 03:20.15 | norgs | you don't like the maximize link kirov? |
| 03:20.29 | norgs | or doesn't it work for you? |
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| 03:20.36 | Kirov | not big enough |
| 03:20.43 | norgs | eek? |
| 03:20.45 | Kirov | and requires an extra click |
| 03:20.48 | norgs | not big enough! |
| 03:20.50 | norgs | hehe |
| 03:20.58 | Kirov | it's more the vertical size |
| 03:21.04 | norgs | ok, well, i'll see what I can do |
| 03:21.27 | norgs | so... how big do you want this box? |
| 03:22.10 | Kirov | say, 80% of my vertical screen space |
| 03:22.33 | norgs | ok, well i'll do that |
| 03:22.37 | Kirov | so, twice it's current hight |
| 03:24.08 | Corrodias | wiped once on hakkar, now |
| 03:24.10 | norgs | ok, so how about that? |
| 03:24.12 | Corrodias | 85% |
| 03:24.32 | Kirov | weird |
| 03:24.38 | Kirov | biggest is smaller than bigger |
| 03:25.10 | norgs | darn |
| 03:25.20 | norgs | ok, on the front page it is :) |
| 03:25.26 | norgs | it works properly inside |
| 03:25.53 | norgs | ok, i changed it again |
| 03:25.55 | Kirov | yeah, that's a good size |
| 03:26.20 | Kirov | Any chance you could make it remember that setting? |
| 03:26.25 | MentalPower | erm... norgs, highlignting seems off |
| 03:26.38 | MentalPower | http://wowi.pastey.net/1269 |
| 03:26.38 | norgs | lua highligting? |
| 03:26.42 | MentalPower | yep |
| 03:27.28 | norgs | nah - that's just bogus lua code |
| 03:27.56 | norgs | should be: local BuildTranslateTable = function(targetLanguage) |
| 03:28.05 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.32 | MentalPower | Kirov: true |
| 03:29.05 | MentalPower | norgs: err local someFuntion(foo, bar) is valid Lua |
| 03:29.22 | MentalPower | oops |
| 03:29.24 | MentalPower | no its not |
| 03:29.25 | norgs | nope |
| 03:29.45 | MentalPower | was thinking of local function someFuntion(foo, bar) |
| 03:30.20 | norgs | ahhh - the power of syntax highlighting :) |
| 03:30.20 | Corrodias | this is hilarious |
| 03:30.27 | Corrodias | we're pulling multiple sons of hakkar at once |
| 03:30.37 | Corrodias | he's coming up to the casters group and crushing us all |
| 03:30.38 | Corrodias | it's mayhem |
| 03:30.52 | Corrodias | mages are taking a good 10 seconds to sheep the tanks |
| 03:31.08 | norgs | hilarious in a frantic OMG we're all gonna dieeee!!! kinda way? |
| 03:31.55 | norgs | anyhow - upgrades completed |
| 03:32.11 | norgs | hopefully it all still works as it should |
| 03:32.44 | Corrodias | hilarious in how disorganized it seems |
| 03:33.00 | Corrodias | eh, we move sluggishly in response to ventrilo commands |
| 03:33.21 | Kirov | norgs - why is the logo for the site now a chick's boobs with a really small bikini top? |
| 03:33.37 | norgs | er? huh? |
| 03:33.58 | Kirov | >:) |
| 03:34.06 | norgs | damnit, you got your tabs mixed up, didn't you |
| 03:34.17 | Kirov | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasties |
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| 03:34.51 | Corrodias | we explained to the mages the macro we want them to use, and 2 of the 4 of them got it wrong |
| 03:40.38 | Corrodias | they variously refer to the sons of hakkar as bats and birds, too |
| 03:45.36 | Corrodias | another problem is a lack of a third tank. i don't know what our third warrior is doing. |
| 03:48.23 | Corrodias | and either he's reluctant to answer, nobody cares, or both |
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| 04:04.32 | Tem_ | Corrodias, is this your frist trip into ZG? |
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| 04:19.59 | Kirov | hmm... just noticed the forums got rolled back again |
| 04:22.51 | Cairenn | ugh, how far back this time? |
| 04:22.59 | Kirov | 24th again |
| 04:23.37 | Cairenn | Last updated 2006-09-28 03:17 pacific |
| 04:23.43 | Cairenn | Iriel's post |
| 04:23.45 | Esamynn | so much for their wonderful new server technology..... |
| 04:23.58 | Esamynn | forum tech I mean |
| 04:24.10 | Esamynn | the server tech seems to work great |
| 04:24.41 | Cairenn | stuff I posted today is still showing for me |
| 04:25.28 | Kirov | top post I see |
| 04:25.28 | Kirov | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=B326F9A7739D470BA851211794788318?topicId=11381427&sid=1 |
| 04:25.35 | Kirov | you from the 24th |
| 04:26.07 | Cairenn | huh, well, it's certainly showing a lot more than that for me |
| 04:26.14 | Cairenn | try clearing your cache & cookies? |
| 04:27.15 | Cairenn | welcome back Iriel |
| 04:27.31 | Kirov | same |
| 04:27.40 | Kirov | I wonder if they're silently switching servers |
| 04:27.54 | Cairenn | Kirov: that's odd |
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| 04:41.43 | Mystiq | i have one frame, and in that frame there is a <Scripts>, which has <OnLoad> and there's a function in there |
| 04:41.57 | Mystiq | the frame loads, but its as tohugh its ignoring my OnLoad script, the function never runs |
| 04:42.07 | Cairenn | and good evening to you as well Mystiq ;) |
| 04:42.29 | MentalPower | Mystiq: any errors in the FrameXML.log file? |
| 04:42.43 | Corrodias | one of my addons is keeping me from being disconnected from being afk too long, but i wonder if that's merely a side effect or if it's intentional. |
| 04:42.45 | Mystiq | 2 |
| 04:43.00 | Mystiq | unknown elements, OnClick and OnEscapePressed |
| 04:43.01 | Cairenn | Corrodias: o.O |
| 04:43.27 | MentalPower | Corrodias: erm... thats not possible from a pure XML/Lua AddOn |
| 04:43.34 | Corrodias | i come back to my game after being away for 10 minutes and i see "you are now AFK \n you are no longer AFK \n you are now AFK \n you are no longer AFK ..." etc about 10 times |
| 04:43.44 | Corrodias | 10 minutes being just a rough guess. it's probably been longer. |
| 04:43.57 | Mystiq | my UI does that too |
| 04:44.00 | MentalPower | the AFK timer is 30mins |
| 04:44.01 | Cairenn | there have been a couple posts on the Blizz forums about folks having similar thing |
| 04:44.03 | Mystiq | ive begun to think its a bug in the game |
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| 04:44.12 | Cairenn | *tries to find* |
| 04:44.15 | MentalPower | plus another 30mins on the char select screen |
| 04:44.16 | Corrodias | hm, that's probably a better explanation, then. |
| 04:44.40 | Kirov | Cairenn - whats the ip for forums.worldofwarcraft.com that you see/ |
| 04:44.52 | Kirov | I have 12.129.252.27 |
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| 04:49.11 | Mystiq | ive reduced it to no errors, but its still ignoring OnLoad |
| 04:49.26 | Cairenn | Kirov: same addy |
| 04:50.21 | Kirov | weird |
| 04:50.29 | Kirov | Mystiq - hmm? |
| 04:50.58 | Mystiq | pastey incoming |
| 04:51.19 | Mystiq | none from my mod |
| 04:51.23 | Mystiq | er |
| 04:51.28 | Mystiq | oops, link here: |
| 04:51.33 | Mystiq | http://wowi.pastey.net/1272 |
| 04:53.11 | MentalPower | Mystiq: can you delete lines 2 and 4? |
| 04:53.13 | Kirov | Mystiq - have you checked framexml.log? |
| 04:53.23 | MentalPower | just a hunch |
| 04:53.35 | Mystiq | yes, there are no errors from my mod in the log |
| 04:53.51 | Mystiq | cant delete them, consequence of using WoW UI Designer |
| 04:54.15 | MentalPower | just delete them for now |
| 04:54.47 | Mystiq | i did |
| 04:54.53 | Mystiq | (outside wowuide) |
| 04:55.05 | MentalPower | and? |
| 04:55.33 | Mystiq | deleted a few more. |
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| 04:56.00 | Mystiq | still not working |
| 04:56.03 | Mystiq | the mod works fine otherwise |
| 04:56.10 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:56.22 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
| 04:56.30 | Cairenn | evening ckknight |
| 04:56.40 | Kirov | ckknight - I _was_ doing great. |
| 04:56.45 | Kirov | Then you had to show up and ruin it all. |
| 04:56.48 | MentalPower | Mystiq: the fiie you pasted is incomplete |
| 04:56.58 | ckknight | Kirov, oh, that's just your period talking. |
| 04:57.12 | Kirov | ~cheeseslap ckknight |
| 04:57.14 | purl | ACTION slaps ckknight around with a piece of texas goat cheese |
| 04:57.22 | ckknight | ~whaleparry |
| 04:57.27 | ckknight | ~whaleparry Kirov |
| 04:57.29 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Kirov's attacks. |
| 04:57.44 | Mystiq | reload http://wowi.pastey.net/1272 |
| 04:58.07 | Mystiq | ignore the mod title, its a work in progress :P |
| 04:59.39 | AnduinLothar | meh wiki page changed again |
| 05:00.00 | MentalPower | Mystiq: can you call the function manually? |
| 05:00.13 | Mystiq | yeah |
| 05:00.14 | Mystiq | works great |
| 05:00.17 | MentalPower | --/run HoPoints_Init() |
| 05:00.20 | MentalPower | right |
| 05:01.53 | Mystiq | i might have found it |
| 05:02.08 | Cairenn | Corrodias: I can't find that thread any more |
| 05:02.35 | Mystiq | zing! |
| 05:02.48 | Cairenn | but I do recall seeing a couple of them, some mod or another causing them to "afk, no longer afk, afk, no longer ...." |
| 05:02.57 | Mystiq | searched wow ui designer forums, the lua file isnt loading before the xml, so OnLoad becomes defunct |
| 05:07.41 | Kirov | wtf? |
| 05:08.04 | Mystiq | hm, created another problem |
| 05:08.07 | Kirov | hmm... is wow ui designer setup to source the .lua from the xml, old style? |
| 05:08.27 | Mystiq | wowuides doesnt reference lua files from the xml, if thats what you mean |
| 05:08.35 | Mystiq | its just referenced in the toc |
| 05:09.56 | MentalPower | night guys |
| 05:10.23 | Cairenn | night MentalPower|ZZzz, sweet dreams |
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| 05:21.13 | Mystiq | oh by the way, hi |
| 05:21.39 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 05:22.08 | Mystiq | you guys may have to suffer my presence more often, cuz im going to be writing a couple mods for the guild lol |
| 05:22.36 | Mystiq | ive been slacking with the 40-man point system and instead want to make those unfortunate ones that do deal with it easier |
| 05:25.57 | Cairenn | well, you are certainly welcome |
| 05:57.11 | Cairenn | okay, sleep time for me, night folks |
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| 06:36.36 | Kirov | Morning cide |
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| 07:38.14 | Corrodias | i just read that all the WoW GM's must live in Paris. |
| 07:39.27 | Eufe | doh :P |
| 07:39.38 | Eufe | you wana be GM? |
| 07:39.50 | Corrodias | hellz no, i'm not going to france |
| 07:40.06 | Eufe | hehe |
| 07:40.14 | Corrodias | and i deliberately funked it up with a 'z' there |
| 07:40.25 | ckknight | Corrodias, unless you're a red-blooded American, then you go to California |
| 07:41.35 | Corrodias | the WoW job ad page said that it is required they be in Paris, France... although i do like the sound of California |
| 07:41.40 | Eufe | my guild m8 almost become a gm, he passed all intervievs, but then he fucked up with 1 hotile email that he send to blizz as a officer for our guild and that email somehow come to the blizz employment office and it was gg...lamerz |
| 07:41.52 | Eufe | hostile* |
| 07:42.08 | Corrodias | haha... noob |
| 07:42.53 | norgs | 'sif be gm anyhow |
| 07:43.11 | norgs | it'd suck - having all that power and not being able to use it |
| 07:43.28 | Corrodias | i do wonder what GM's do, for the most part. i mean, almost all of my petitions are bug reports, for which i should imagine they just make a note of it for the dev team, usually. |
| 07:43.54 | norgs | slack off most of the time i'd imagine |
| 07:44.23 | norgs | it's what i'd do if i had a cushy job |
| 07:44.47 | Eufe | do you know how many idiots post tickets about quest problems or suck, when its not realy a bug/problem to begin with, its just that they are stupid? |
| 07:44.56 | Corrodias | i'm sure they hvae a lot of work to do. i just don't know all of what it is. |
| 07:45.04 | Eufe | just sorting out realy tickets from itiot ones takes full time job |
| 07:45.41 | Eufe | blah....need coffie...cant type straight....bbl |
| 07:46.21 | Corrodias | like a ticket that they can't ride their mounts indoors? :) |
| 07:47.48 | sancus | the other half the time they spend learning the basics of the game so they are helpful.... oh wait |
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| 07:54.11 | Corrodias | is there any restriction on them playing the game normally with normal accounts, i wonder? |
| 07:54.20 | Kirov | "I keep dying, fix it!" |
| 07:55.28 | Corrodias | ckknight: what did you mean by what you said? did you seriously mean that some of the employees live in California instead of France? |
| 07:58.17 | Crispix | I need to become the next Emeril Legaci.. |
| 07:58.28 | Crispix | He's got women who are so beautiful on his show.. jebus |
| 07:58.48 | Kirov | Crispix - and all married |
| 07:58.58 | Crispix | Probably |
| 07:59.17 | Crispix | Just the fact though.. |
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| 08:03.33 | ckknight | Corrodias, yea, Irving, California |
| 08:04.20 | Eufe | Corrodias: gm-s play normaly, I heared about few that are in guilds owning end-game content...and you can live in California if you are US GM |
| 08:06.07 | sancus | as far as I know you HAVE to be local to be a US GM, period. |
| 08:06.32 | Eufe | yep |
| 08:06.45 | sancus | which is part of the reason lots of them are so bad |
| 08:06.50 | sancus | same for QA |
| 08:28.18 | Corrodias | wait, i don't understand that last part :o |
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| 09:59.33 | Corrodias | sadly, my skills amount to... well, not much |
| 09:59.46 | Corrodias | employment opportunities for me are shaping up to be "the stuff that other people don't want to do" |
| 10:01.20 | Corrodias | [away] @ bed |
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| 10:19.11 | Mikma | massive join-part flood and no-one speaks |
| 10:19.37 | Mikma | so, hairy testicles look like coconuts |
| 10:19.41 | deci | rawr~! |
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| 10:40.26 | Mikma | MikkZzz: please do it i have actually seen them propably before in a document :D |
| 10:40.53 | MikkZzz | Damnit. That'd mean I'd actually have to go browse shock content sites to find them again >.< |
| 10:40.59 | Mikma | yeap |
| 10:41.10 | Mikma | just google "testicle coconuts" |
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| 11:50.31 | koomi | how do i use a global variable to save data in? |
| 11:51.01 | Kaso | just add ## SavedVariables: VAR_HERE to your toc |
| 11:51.23 | Kaso | or ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: if you dont need it to be global between all chars |
| 11:51.36 | koomi | Kaso: if i try to add data to it (table, new index) i always get: attempt to index global "myVar" (a nil value) |
| 11:52.08 | koomi | the saving is done automagically? |
| 11:52.29 | Eufe | yeah, but you have to initialize it to {} |
| 11:52.37 | Kaso | its saved on reload/relog, and ^ that up there |
| 11:53.25 | koomi | Eufe: i did that (sorry no special chars here, buggy os x terminal doesnt like my screen/irssi session) |
| 11:54.01 | koomi | Eufe: so i init it (with {}) and use any index i like: logIt_log["as"] = 10; |
| 11:54.08 | koomi | throughs an error |
| 11:54.31 | Eufe | hmmm, strange.... |
| 11:54.57 | Kaso | perhaps if you could link part of your code where the var is inited and used, use pastey.net |
| 11:56.34 | koomi | http://pastey.net/1277 |
| 11:56.42 | koomi | i shortened it quite a bit |
| 11:56.54 | koomi | but that's how i use the var (logIt_log) |
| 11:57.03 | koomi | genius with names :) |
| 11:57.14 | Kaso | ok, which events have you registered? |
| 11:57.15 | koomi | and line 9 throughs the error |
| 11:57.26 | koomi | Kaso: alot of combat events |
| 11:57.47 | koomi | Wobin: you can try but you will never guess :) |
| 11:57.50 | Kaso | dont register them till ADDON_LOADED arg1=="your addon" |
| 11:57.57 | Wobin | man, it's a brainbuster =\ |
| 11:58.17 | koomi | Kaso: so i would register my events after onload? |
| 11:58.22 | Wobin | aye |
| 11:58.34 | Eufe | yeah...error in your code is that onevent might be called before your addon is actualy loaded |
| 11:59.08 | koomi | Eufe: but i get the error even if the addon is running for quite some time |
| 11:59.09 | koomi | http://pastey.net/1278 |
| 11:59.11 | koomi | is all i got :) |
| 11:59.49 | koomi | didn't really clean it |
| 12:03.11 | Eufe | koomi: I've had some strange things going on in lua before...I just do it safe from now on...you should register ADDON_LOADED event and in the event handler if event is ADDON_LOADED check if arg1 is your addon (like Kaso wrote) and then init the var |
| 12:03.36 | Eufe | with...if (logIt_log==nil) logIt_log ={} |
| 12:03.41 | Eufe | ir something like that |
| 12:04.48 | koomi | Eufe: so i use the ADDON_LOADED event to register the other events and init my var or just to init my var? |
| 12:05.41 | Eufe | I would init all |
| 12:05.45 | Eufe | or just change your code and insert if (logIt_log==nil) logIt_log ={} before line 42 :P |
| 12:05.51 | koomi | hehe |
| 12:09.38 | koomi | variables get saved on ReloadUI() or just on logout? |
| 12:10.03 | Kaso | both |
| 12:10.51 | Mikma | Mikk: so where's my gore? |
| 12:12.05 | koomi | Eufe, Kaso: thanks. it seems to work now |
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| 12:15.50 | Eufe | np |
| 12:18.37 | koomi | how do i get the list of global strings used in wow? |
| 12:19.01 | koomi | i want to use marsmessageparser |
| 12:19.26 | Kaso | ~wdn |
| 12:19.34 | purl | World of Warcraft Developer Network, a website where you can see the changes made to WoW's interface files between versions and also where you can download said versions. http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 12:19.45 | Kaso | check out Globalstrings.lua on that site |
| 12:24.16 | koomi | thanks |
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| 12:37.45 | Eufe | lol? TicTacToeFrame.xml/lua |
| 12:37.54 | Eufe | does this work? |
| 12:38.06 | Wobin | nope =) |
| 12:38.33 | Eufe | bah |
| 12:38.45 | Elkano | it's stupid anyways since tictactoe isn't balanced |
| 12:39.01 | Eufe | rofl |
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| 12:47.11 | Mikk | Nerf circles |
| 12:47.22 | Eufe | X > O !!! |
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| 12:54.43 | Eufe | did any1 figure out how marsmessageparser works? |
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| 13:13.14 | JoshBorke | Morning |
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| 13:23.04 | koomi | Eufe: works for me |
| 13:25.54 | Eufe | I dont doubt that...I'm just curious how it handles diferent ordering of the parameters in test patterns...like, franch have diferent ordering than the english etc |
| 13:26.37 | koomi | they do? |
| 13:26.51 | koomi | i'm using the english version of wow on a german channel |
| 13:27.00 | koomi | not sure how the messages are ordered in german tho |
| 13:29.09 | Eufe | aparently marsmessageparser should handle that automaticly...I just dont get how |
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| 13:31.13 | koomi | Eufe: i looked in the code and decided against understanding it ^^ |
| 13:33.18 | koomi | player position is always 0,0 for instances? |
| 13:33.23 | koomi | that's bad .. |
| 13:37.02 | Kevorkian | that's probably why mapping mods don't work in instances |
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| 13:38.32 | Mikk | Indeed |
| 13:39.34 | Mikk | Eufe: Look at globalstrings.lua in french and german clients. They have numbers in the formatstrings saying which piece of data goes where. |
| 13:39.42 | Kevorkian | I wonder why they decided to make mapping non-functional for instances |
| 13:40.10 | malreth | it's not that they decided to make mapping non-functional when in an instance |
| 13:40.16 | Mikk | To make them more of a chellenge? :-) |
| 13:40.19 | malreth | WoW API functions exist for a purpose |
| 13:40.20 | Mikk | cha* |
| 13:40.31 | Kevorkian | mikk: sure... *cough* atlas *cough* |
| 13:40.46 | malreth | since there are no in-game maps for the instances, there's no reason to provide map position information to the client |
| 13:40.46 | Mikk | Yeah but with atlas you at least need to be able to read a map and predict where you're headed. |
| 13:41.01 | Mikk | You don't get a blinky dot :-P |
| 13:41.34 | malreth | with the WoW API, function follows form |
| 13:41.37 | Kevorkian | *shrug*, sorta not that hard to read a map unless you're an idiot (of which granted there are plenty of) |
| 13:41.49 | Kevorkian | mikk: heh, don't be agitatin' the dots |
| 13:42.28 | Kevorkian | malreth: understood, but the decision was made not to provide maps of the instances as well. which seems a bit silly |
| 13:43.21 | malreth | one could say that one goal in an instance is to 'delve the dungeon' so to speak |
| 13:43.33 | malreth | you don't provide maps to explorer-types... they make their own maps |
| 13:43.42 | Kevorkian | that would be.. interesting, if the maps ever changed |
| 13:45.57 | Kevorkian | in any case, my issues with instances and maps has little to do with the maps themselves, those are easy to remember. It's the fact that I cannot use the map to check on the status of the members of the party/raid. |
| 13:46.10 | Mikk | True |
| 13:46.20 | Mikk | Oooooh hey now there's an idea |
| 13:46.45 | Mikk | Extended readycheck that automagically checks distances |
| 13:47.02 | malreth | i use perfect raid for that |
| 13:47.08 | Mikk | Oh, it does that? |
| 13:47.15 | malreth | it grays out raid members if they're >30yds |
| 13:47.19 | Mikk | Ahh |
| 13:47.19 | Kevorkian | I didn't think you could get a distance to target |
| 13:47.23 | Kevorkian | ahh |
| 13:47.23 | Mikk | That you can |
| 13:47.34 | Mikk | Not an accurate reading but.... yeah =) |
| 13:47.35 | malreth | you can get the interact distances to friendly targets |
| 13:48.33 | Kevorkian | gotcha |
| 13:49.08 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CheckInteractDistance |
| 13:49.15 | Kevorkian | ya, I've seen that one |
| 13:49.47 | malreth | btw, you should visit http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CheckInteractDistance |
| 13:51.02 | Eufe | Mikk: you know where can I get french, german and spain copy of Globalstrings? |
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| 13:57.38 | koomi | how can i implement something like a timer function if i got no visible frames? |
| 13:57.53 | koomi | the onupdate event doesnt seem to work |
| 13:58.11 | Eufe | make a dumy frame off screen or just make it transparent |
| 13:58.27 | koomi | Eufe: how would i do that? |
| 13:58.44 | koomi | oh wait - i guess i just look it up myself :) |
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| 14:26.40 | koomi | http://pastey.net/1284 why do i get index errors with this? |
| 14:27.29 | Gello | t.damage.unit is first a string, then attempts to be a table |
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| 14:28.33 | TS|Skrom | a string with delusions of grandeur :D |
| 14:28.38 | koomi | lol |
| 14:28.57 | koomi | i thought lua would be open to my grand asperations - string wise |
| 14:29.34 | Gello | maybe you want "unit" to be "player" ? |
| 14:29.51 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 14:30.04 | Gello | t["damage"] = {} t["damage"]["player"] = {} t["damage"]["player"]["x"]=etc |
| 14:31.51 | Gello | heya cairenn |
| 14:31.58 | Cairenn | hey Gello :) |
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| 14:35.46 | koomi | what type of var is returned by GetPlayerPosition? is it a table? |
| 14:36.24 | Thrae | koomi: There are two returns, x and y |
| 14:36.39 | koomi | Thrae: how would i store away two return values? |
| 14:36.51 | TS|Skrom | local x,y = GetPlayerPosition() |
| 14:36.52 | koomi | (scary concept of two return values btw) |
| 14:36.52 | Thrae | koomi: Lua functions can return more then one value. local x,y; x,y = GetPlayerPosition() |
| 14:38.13 | [Ammo] | if x and y are zero that means you're in an instance btw :) |
| 14:38.19 | [Ammo] | or a very good chance of it |
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| 14:50.50 | koomi | can lua override functions? |
| 14:50.50 | koomi | like f(x) and f(x,y) would both work? |
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| 14:51.39 | JoshBorke | no |
| 14:51.50 | JoshBorke | but you can do function f(x,y) if not y then end |
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| 14:51.58 | warla | hi |
| 14:52.02 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 14:52.18 | warla | i'm sooo pissed |
| 14:52.21 | Cide | koomi: what JoshBorke said; all arguments are optional |
| 14:52.23 | warla | my damn computer died :-( |
| 14:52.42 | warla | friggin stuff went so hot the parts on the mainboard melted off lol |
| 14:52.54 | warla | the tin melted and some parts fell off the mainboard |
| 14:52.55 | warla | grrrr |
| 14:53.02 | koomi | oho |
| 14:53.10 | koomi | thanks JoshBorke, Cide |
| 14:53.20 | warla | all capacitors round.... like tiny balls |
| 14:53.39 | JoshBorke | oh dear... |
| 14:53.42 | koomi | (can't find it in the api) how to return the current players name? |
| 14:54.15 | [Ammo] | UnitName("player") |
| 14:54.29 | koomi | [Ammo]: that was too easy :) |
| 14:54.34 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 14:54.46 | Cairenn | warla: not good |
| 14:55.29 | [Ammo] | warla: ouch... |
| 14:56.21 | Mikma | people don't realize but paladins are rather good in instances |
| 14:56.38 | Mikma | with the right spec and right blessings they do rock |
| 14:56.40 | [Ammo] | wrong channel mikma :p |
| 14:56.53 | Cairenn | warla: no offense, but how can you computer have gotten that hot without there have been some previous warning signs that there was a problem brewing? |
| 14:56.55 | Mikma | no no i was just thinking |
| 14:57.01 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 14:57.17 | JoshBorke | w |
| 14:58.42 | koomi | can i use something like targetplayer to figure out where the unit is that is targetting the player? |
| 14:58.46 | koomi | errm |
| 14:58.48 | koomi | nvm |
| 14:59.37 | JoshBorke | koomi: the lua API knows little to nothing about the 3d world (ie where people are) |
| 15:00.27 | JoshBorke | you could do something like when you mouse-over a unit that is targetting you a big red circle pops up where your cursor was |
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| 15:12.46 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5398-Cirk's_Eventlogger.html |
| 15:13.24 | Cairenn | may be of interest |
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| 15:17.07 | MentalPower|Univ | morning |
| 15:17.14 | Cairenn | morning MP |
| 15:18.04 | JoshBorke | MentalPower|Univ: morning |
| 15:19.25 | Hexarobi | whooot theyre installing verizon fios on my street! |
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| 15:25.46 | koomi | Cairenn: very nice mod |
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| 15:35.48 | koomi | so there is no easy way to figure which units are around a player? |
| 15:38.47 | malreth | koomi: friendly or enemy? |
| 15:39.58 | koomi | enemy |
| 15:40.10 | koomi | raid or party members should be easy i guess |
| 15:40.56 | malreth | koomi: only if you have them targeted |
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| 15:41.08 | JoshBorke | koomi: you can't determine exactly where they are. You can use CheckInteractDistance() to figure out a rough idea of how far they are from the player |
| 15:42.18 | malreth | the forums are surprisingly responsive today |
| 15:42.54 | koomi | JoshBorke: hmm. if i get melee damage it means the unit must be close to me (or in melee range) |
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| 15:43.12 | koomi | JoshBorke: so i should be able to figure the radius via the type of damage, right? |
| 15:43.18 | malreth | koomi: that is a reasonably safe assumption |
| 15:43.26 | JoshBorke | koomi: yes, you can also watch the combatlog to determine distances, but that can be affected by variables that can be reset by other mods |
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| 15:43.38 | nevcairiel | only with magic damage,the mage could be standing ontop of you as well. |
| 15:43.57 | koomi | nevcairiel: ah. but then we do not like mages, do we? *duck* |
| 15:44.04 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:44.26 | MoonWolf | koomi, or a hunter is shooting you. |
| 15:44.37 | koomi | MoonWolf: damn those hunters :) |
| 15:44.45 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:44.45 | koomi | ok. so this approach will most definitly not work |
| 15:44.56 | koomi | but then hunters need a minimum range to shoot ... |
| 15:45.12 | nevcairiel | checkinteractdistance is not that bad approach, but only works on your target or party/raid |
| 15:46.02 | nevcairiel | works on enemys as well, but only if you target them, or _anyone_ in raid/party targets them. |
| 15:46.03 | koomi | dammn. |
| 15:47.02 | malreth | what were you trying to do, koomi? |
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| 15:47.27 | koomi | malreth: combat logging |
| 15:47.36 | malreth | that's it? |
| 15:47.39 | koomi | but with position ^^ |
| 15:47.43 | koomi | malreth: sure. |
| 15:48.14 | koomi | that's not enough? i'm feeling pretty challenged by the lua api - first mod :) |
| 15:48.56 | malreth | don't think what you're trying to do is feasible, really. not in all cases |
| 15:49.25 | JoshBorke | koomi: there is no way to know if someone is behind/infront/to the side of you |
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| 15:54.08 | JoshBorke | bbiab |
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| 16:12.25 | Gello | servers appear to be coming up early |
| 16:17.14 | nevcairiel | early is not a word blizzard knows |
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| 16:20.53 | TS|Skrom | Ahhhh a clean windows install, is there anything better? |
| 16:25.38 | cmunn | My server is up :) |
| 16:27.24 | Kevorkian | if the servers are up early that just means they're getting ready to wait until this evening to take them down again in the middle of everybody's raids |
| 16:27.36 | cmunn | heh |
| 16:28.19 | cmunn | TS|Skrom, Yes, a clean OSX install. |
| 16:28.29 | Kevorkian | "oh so sorry, there was an emergency patch to fix a problem with the pixels not aligning on some of the fish textures, I hope you didn't have nef at 3%" |
| 16:28.33 | TS|Skrom | lie |
| 16:34.47 | zenzelezz | hm, which hero does the horde honor in this harvest festival? |
| 16:34.56 | TS|Skrom | Hellscream |
| 16:35.03 | Kamaris | Mikk: ping |
| 16:35.04 | cmunn | Boo Horde. |
| 16:36.01 | TS|Skrom | Keep it up cmunn, you're asking for a beating :P |
| 16:36.19 | cmunn | Yarr |
| 16:36.32 | cmunn | For Alune! |
| 16:36.40 | Mikma | cmunn: *kiss* |
| 16:37.07 | TS|Skrom | hrm... I can't recall where I got my video and sound drivers for this machine >< |
| 16:37.47 | cmunn | Hello, Mikma. |
| 16:37.56 | Mikma | cmunn: nice touch on the OSX :) |
| 16:38.10 | TS|Skrom | *glare* |
| 16:38.32 | cmunn | I'm sorry, TS|Skrom, if we like quality. |
| 16:39.33 | cmunn | My WoW has built in iTunes controls. ^_^ |
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| 16:41.23 | Mikma | cmunn: same, same.. :) |
| 16:56.24 | Kevorkian | what's the max screen resolution you can run wow in |
| 16:56.46 | cogwheel | probably depends on your video drivers |
| 16:56.58 | Kevorkian | assuming I have very good drivers |
| 16:57.07 | Kevorkian | what's the max supported resolution? |
| 16:57.12 | cogwheel | I doubt there is one... |
| 16:57.33 | cogwheel | with as many different resolutions as there are, it would be silly to impose an arbitrary maximum. |
| 16:57.55 | Kevorkian | most software does however have a max supported resolution |
| 16:58.09 | Kevorkian | for fullscreen stuff anyway |
| 16:58.15 | cogwheel | WoW gets its resolutions from windows |
| 16:58.24 | cogwheel | (or MacOS as the case may be) |
| 16:58.42 | cogwheel | Windows limits its resolutions to the max of your monitor |
| 16:59.51 | cogwheel | I've run it in 1920x1280, and i've also run it at 2560x1024 |
| 17:00.05 | Kevorkian | fair 'nuff |
| 17:00.17 | Kevorkian | have to see what my monitor at home is maxed at |
| 17:00.34 | cogwheel | CRT or LCD? |
| 17:00.39 | Kevorkian | crt alas |
| 17:00.55 | cogwheel | Well, you're not going to gain much of an advantage beyond a certain point |
| 17:01.14 | Kevorkian | I'm not interested in running it that high, I just need the high rez for screen caps |
| 17:01.19 | cogwheel | ah |
| 17:01.51 | Kevorkian | making bumper stickers, and to make something that doesn't look hideously ugly you need at least 300 DPI |
| 17:01.57 | cogwheel | Heh... One time I turned up all the video options at 1920x1280 at work to take a screenshot.... i got about 1/3 fps XD |
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| 17:03.18 | Kevorkian | if need be I can find a guildie with better hardware to take the caps I need but it would be easier to take them myself |
| 17:10.13 | Mikk | Kamaris: pong |
| 17:22.15 | MentalPower|Univ | I hate physics! |
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| 17:25.52 | Kevorkian | not to worry, physics probably hates you right back |
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| 17:29.30 | warla | this mind sound stupid... but my comp died today so i build a new one together.... i put in 2 Harddrives (master + slave) and when i installed Win XP it formatted one of the 2 harddrives it showed.. so win xp is installed and now i need to know how i can format the second harddrive |
| 17:29.57 | warla | since its new i dont see it on the workspace |
| 17:30.27 | cogwheel | Control panel->Administrative tools->Computer Management |
| 17:30.53 | cogwheel | then choos the Disk Management item on the left |
| 17:31.00 | cogwheel | s/s/se/ |
| 17:31.23 | warla | snap my winxp is in german.. how does the symbol look like from "Administrative tools" |
| 17:31.54 | cogwheel | hmmm.... |
| 17:32.00 | warla | ohh found it |
| 17:32.34 | warla | Ahh yea |
| 17:32.37 | warla | there it is |
| 17:32.41 | warla | the unformatted HD |
| 17:32.44 | warla | thanks a ton :-) |
| 17:32.48 | cogwheel | np :) |
| 17:32.58 | warla | last time i did format a HD was like 5 years ago |
| 17:33.03 | warla | with a dos tool callled FDisk |
| 17:33.04 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 17:33.05 | warla | rofl |
| 17:33.55 | Mikk | on a sidenote, this was a LOT easier to find in NT4 |
| 17:34.04 | warla | heh i bet |
| 17:34.06 | Mikk | Win2k moved it several clicks away for no good reason (imo) |
| 17:34.14 | warla | if you wouldnt have told me where that is i'd still be searching |
| 17:34.31 | warla | blizzards downloader makes me cry |
| 17:34.47 | warla | why do they use a frigign torrent :-/ |
| 17:34.53 | warla | 465 mb from a torrent = /wrist |
| 17:36.16 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 17:36.22 | Xuerian | just download it directly? :P |
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| 17:38.33 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 17:38.42 | Kirkburn|Vista | Mornin' Mikk |
| 17:38.58 | Kirkburn|Vista | I'd recommend the wirebrain site |
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| 17:42.44 | JoshBorke | wow, this is gonna do a while... |
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| 17:59.28 | Kamaris | Mikk: sweet jesus, i just checked my status window and i have a huge spamfest of "private messages blocked from non-regged users" notices |
| 17:59.39 | Kamaris | Mikk: give me a min and i'll paste it back to you |
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| 18:15.54 | Tem | Kirkburn|Vista, you around? |
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| 18:53.50 | Kirkburn|Vista | Tem, yes |
| 18:54.09 | Tem | Kirkburn|Vista, I figured out what looks off in this version of CF |
| 18:54.26 | Tem | GameFontNormalSmall is a different font |
| 18:54.48 | Kirkburn|Vista | It is? |
| 18:55.24 | Kirkburn|Vista | Bold instead of normal? |
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| 19:08.26 | Tem | not sure lemee see what it really is |
| 19:08.40 | Tem | yeah, it's bold now |
| 19:08.54 | Tem | wich I dislike |
| 19:08.58 | Tem | which* |
| 19:09.03 | Tem | what was it before? |
| 19:09.25 | Tem | Also, I'm not used to the text in UIErrors being italic |
| 19:09.29 | Tem | that's new too |
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| 19:27.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | wuts the command ot cast a speel in a macro ? |
| 19:27.25 | Kaso | CastSpellByName() |
| 19:27.28 | Kaso | or just /cast |
| 19:27.45 | Kaso | second one needs a line of its own however |
| 19:29.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | kaso how do i add the leve of the speel again ? |
| 19:29.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | Raptor Strike 6 ? |
| 19:29.45 | JoshBorke | Parse the tooltip/action item/spellbook when it is clicked |
| 19:29.47 | Kaso | CastSpellByName("Spell(Rank 5)") |
| 19:29.58 | JoshBorke | oh, woops, read that wrong... |
| 19:29.58 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 19:30.11 | Kaso | ha |
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| 19:32.13 | Kirkburn|Vista | Tem, just edit the code =) |
| 19:32.29 | Tem | too lazy |
| 19:32.34 | Kirkburn|Vista | heh |
| 19:32.41 | Tem | I want it to look like it did yesterday before I erased my addons directory |
| 19:32.57 | Kirkburn|Vista | It takes about 30 seconds, c'mon :( |
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| 19:36.04 | Kevorkian | josh: did you get your KB addon working? |
| 19:36.56 | JoshBorke | been too busy to work on the synchronisation part |
| 19:37.06 | JoshBorke | i released the standalone version though |
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| 19:48.06 | Thiana | ~seen Mikk |
| 19:48.22 | purl | mikk is currently on #wowi-lounge (23h 54m 15s) #wowace (23h 54m 15s). Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 2h 9m 49s, last said: 'http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors'. |
| 19:52.01 | FISKER_Q | ~seen mikord |
| 19:52.06 | purl | mikord <n=noone@cpe-68-206-150-250.hot.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 11d 15h 37m 58s ago, saying: 'Gotta hit the sack. Night guys'. |
| 19:53.12 | TS|Skrom | Kirkburn|Vista I love wowwiki.com and all... but why does the french and german one get such a nice looking picture on it's main page and we get the little orc? |
| 19:53.32 | Kirkburn|Vista | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon |
| 19:54.11 | Kirkburn|Vista | Bureaucracy, mainly |
| 19:55.18 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 19:55.30 | TS|Skrom | just checking :D |
| 19:55.43 | Kirkburn|Vista | :P |
| 19:55.56 | Kirkburn|Vista | Soon it shall come to pass ... hopefully :) |
| 20:02.18 | TS|Skrom | None here... going to have to go forage, bbl. |
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| 20:17.03 | Kirkburn|Vista | Skrom|Lunch, stay away from my juniper bush! |
| 20:18.00 | TS|Skrom | mmmm juniper /droooool |
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| 20:21.47 | Thrae | For a second there, I thought you were talking about that Disney cartoon, "Juniper Lee", about a 12-year old... |
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| 21:02.06 | AnduinLothar | question... is there a way to tell what kind of bag something is? like if it only hold enchanting supplies and what not? Or is size the only indication on the lua side? |
| 21:03.10 | TS|Skrom | is there a Tooltip:SetBag() that you could pull the name from? |
| 21:04.07 | cogwheel | AnduinLothar: take a look at BuyEmAll code :) |
| 21:05.00 | cogwheel | Specifically the very last function called FreeBagSpace |
| 21:05.04 | AnduinLothar | i can pull name easy enough |
| 21:05.17 | AnduinLothar | or tooltip scan |
| 21:05.21 | AnduinLothar | or get id |
| 21:06.14 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 21:06.23 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemType |
| 21:06.23 | AnduinLothar | Is Fubar hosted anywhere other than wowi? |
| 21:06.32 | cogwheel | svn.wowace.com |
| 21:07.31 | AnduinLothar | ah sweet, thx cog. Container type will work well. I take it that string is unlocalized |
| 21:07.41 | cogwheel | yep |
| 21:08.33 | warla | AnduinLothar... |
| 21:08.43 | warla | i swear i saw your name somewhere |
| 21:08.48 | warla | did you make any addon? |
| 21:08.57 | AnduinLothar | WTB wowi links that are just http://www.wowinterface.com/<AddonName> |
| 21:09.16 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:KarlKFI |
| 21:10.40 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 21:10.55 | AnduinLothar | just a few |
| 21:10.57 | Kirkburn|Vista | warla, he's also a major character in WC ;) /me waves at the famous guy. "Hello famous guy" |
| 21:11.10 | axxo | gz me, shadowbolted myself to death |
| 21:11.33 | Kirkburn|Vista | Generally it's a good idea ot target someone else when attacking :P |
| 21:11.39 | axxo | i was! |
| 21:11.44 | axxo | but it reflected :\ |
| 21:11.44 | AnduinLothar | AQ40 mobs |
| 21:11.50 | AnduinLothar | Reflect Shadow |
| 21:12.49 | AnduinLothar | i love watching warlocks die from their own curse of doom |
| 21:12.49 | Kirkburn|Vista | Was watching my hosuemate attempt AQ40 earlier ... damn hard, it is |
| 21:12.49 | cogwheel | Heh... doesn't your name violate the naming policy? ;) |
| 21:12.49 | Kirkburn|Vista | They've not got past Skeram yet, but there were only 30 of them anyway |
| 21:12.50 | Kirkburn|Vista | cogwheel, don't remind him! |
| 21:12.52 | AnduinLothar | not when I chose it. there was no naming policy. they made me change it about 4 months ago tho |
| 21:13.01 | cogwheel | :( |
| 21:13.12 | Kirkburn|Vista | Was it really that long ago? Wow ... |
| 21:13.23 | AnduinLothar | beginning of summer |
| 21:13.29 | AnduinLothar | june i think |
| 21:13.46 | cogwheel | that doesn't seem very long ago to me :P considering i'd been playing for a year and a half before then... |
| 21:14.34 | Kirkburn|Vista | I spy WinAceUpdater :O Whee |
| 21:14.44 | AnduinLothar | now my pally main is Wraithhammer in game. But changing my name on 40+ addons and well established online identity didn't sound like fun. |
| 21:15.07 | Kirkburn|Vista | I think two names is enough already :P |
| 21:15.07 | cogwheel | no kidding |
| 21:15.22 | AnduinLothar | so i post from a lvl 1 alt named Anduinlothar that no one's reported |
| 21:16.23 | AnduinLothar | KarlKFI has been my SN and online identity since my days of Starcraft and Diablo modding |
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| 21:44.08 | AnduinLothar | Just posted the latest Wardrobe which contained the Fubar Plugin if anyone's interested |
| 21:46.20 | JoshBorke | o.O you...FuBar...o.O |
| 21:46.23 | JoshBorke | i still use itemrack :-D |
| 21:46.36 | lacindas | me too, love itemrack |
| 21:46.51 | Xuerian | Itemrack <3 ^_^ |
| 21:47.15 | Xuerian | Nothing against the other equiment, management mods, but :P |
| 21:47.43 | lacindas | yeah, same ;P |
| 21:47.58 | lacindas | its all personal preference, some people love one hate another, etc etc |
| 21:48.12 | lacindas | diversity is good ;) |
| 21:49.43 | Kirov | al sullied his hands with Ace? |
| 21:49.52 | Kirov | This is a bright new day |
| 21:51.00 | JoshBorke | Kirov: indeed! |
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| 21:52.32 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 21:52.52 | Kirov | Now I'm just waiting for an Ace2 Cosmos and AceGUI Khaos |
| 21:52.53 | Xuerian | lol Kirov, heya Qzot. |
| 21:53.14 | Cide | Kirov: AceMos2? |
| 21:53.20 | Xuerian | XD |
| 21:53.25 | Kirov | CT_AceMos2 |
| 21:53.37 | TS|Skrom | I believe the sentiment you are seeking is "choo choo get on board" |
| 21:53.42 | Qzot | Ace2 IE Virus Installer |
| 21:54.05 | Xuerian | "CT_AceMos2". Just visualize it as a patchwork golem. |
| 21:54.24 | TS|Skrom | does it rampage every 7 minutes? |
| 21:54.41 | Kirov | If Rowne was still around I could see him making an Ace virus that installed a keylogger if it saw the user had Cosmos installed as well. |
| 21:54.42 | Xuerian | Depends on the phase of the moon. |
| 21:55.13 | Qzot | FR rings. Worth getting one for Rag and BWL if my FR is 154? |
| 21:55.15 | Kirov | (note, Ace, as Rowne was very much against an embedable Ace) |
| 21:55.26 | axxo | Qzot: get the mc quest one, thats it |
| 21:55.35 | Qzot | Tidal loop? |
| 21:55.39 | axxo | and even then, don't use it :p |
| 21:55.39 | Kirov | Qzot - My FR is 80 something. |
| 21:55.51 | Kirov | I clear MC and BWL weekly |
| 21:56.04 | Kirov | Unless you're an MT, it doesn't matter much |
| 21:56.05 | Qzot | You probably have better average gear than my guild. |
| 21:56.07 | axxo | fr is only important when learning the encounters |
| 21:56.11 | axxo | after that you dont really need it |
| 21:56.14 | Kirov | Qzot - 8/8 ds ... |
| 21:56.29 | Qzot | Yeah. And the rest of your guild to boot. |
| 21:56.29 | Kirov | 6k hp when buffed |
| 21:56.39 | Qzot | We're typically 4/8 tier 1. |
| 21:56.49 | Kirov | Qzot - the rest of my guild is still trying to get geared up from blues. |
| 21:57.00 | Qzot | Hmm. |
| 21:57.17 | Cide | Qzot: what class? |
| 21:57.19 | Kirov | I broke off of a large raiding guild as it was imploding and helped start a new guild. |
| 21:57.44 | Qzot | Druid. After MC is put on farm status, I'm hoping to be MT or OT. |
| 21:57.50 | Cide | I've never needed more than ~100 FR as a priest, though I can get ~200 if I really need |
| 21:57.55 | Cide | as a tank you want 315 |
| 21:58.10 | Cide | mainly for firemaw in BWL |
| 21:58.21 | Cide | and vael obviously |
| 21:58.28 | Qzot | Tall order. There are 3 crafted leather pieces I can get, but they're not going to bring me to 315. |
| 21:58.40 | Qzot | I doubt I'll be tanking BWL any time soon. |
| 21:58.58 | Cide | we've rogues with 315, so it's definitely possible |
| 21:59.18 | Qzot | Yeah, it is. But it requires some MC drops as well as crafted pieces. |
| 21:59.34 | Qzot | Molten helm, Lava belt, some boots, too. |
| 21:59.48 | Qzot | But then you need the Salamander Scale pants, or some such. |
| 22:00.05 | Cide | aye. http://ctprofiles.net/listing.ct?class=1&level=60&listing=2&sortBy=10 |
| 22:00.15 | AnduinLothar | Actually I didn't write the ace ;) |
| 22:00.22 | AnduinLothar | Nemes and I collaborated |
| 22:00.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | whoops |
| 22:00.33 | AnduinLothar | he's the orig WardrobeFu author |
| 22:00.42 | Corrodias | the druid buff's +27 fire resist is pretty pale in comparison to the 315 you want |
| 22:00.47 | AnduinLothar | so now it's updated and contained |
| 22:00.59 | Esamynn | ok, this post made me giggle just a little: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=356DC6A22709E549908EAE092B3AFD3F?topicId=30047696&sid=1 |
| 22:01.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | +20 untalented, corridas, which makes about 0 difference in the long run |
| 22:01.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | i tried to link the tome of turtlemorph from alphaloot and got d/ced :x |
| 22:02.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | oopsies |
| 22:02.29 | AnduinLothar | and for the record I don't use Fubar and only use Titan when Debugging Wardrobe, since it already had Titan support when I took it over |
| 22:03.14 | AnduinLothar | however I am a slave to the user. And I take code donations |
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| 22:21.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | grarrgh if only there was an addon that did this work for me :[ |
| 22:22.34 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm rolling through atlasloot to see how much of an improvement certain items from instances are, and all this math is driving me batty, trying to add up the AP |
| 22:25.31 | JoshBork1 | yea, someone needs to make a mod that will let you build 'test' outfits using information that is cached on your machine |
| 22:29.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | well, theorycraft kinda has one |
| 22:29.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's a pain to do it through atlasloot and stuff, easier just to add it up in your head |
| 22:37.26 | Qzot | Hmm. What about an addon to slowly leak all your cached links across the guild addon channel? |
| 22:37.39 | Qzot | Is there a way you could do that safely? |
| 22:37.46 | Kirov | sure |
| 22:37.50 | Kirov | ItemDB does that |
| 22:38.09 | Kirov | not across guild, but a hidden global |
| 22:38.29 | Qzot | How hidden? |
| 22:38.32 | JoshBork1 | bye all |
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| 22:39.04 | Kirov | Qzot - old-ctra style last I looked |
| 22:39.16 | MentalPower | Kirov: how do you do link validation with a global channel? |
| 22:39.21 | Kirov | You'd have to look yourself or ask Elkano next time he's here. |
| 22:39.37 | Qzot | Eww. I really try to avoid addons that take an extra channel. And I thought those channels didn't permit links? |
| 22:39.45 | Qzot | Ah. Clarification: |
| 22:39.46 | Kirov | They don't |
| 22:40.07 | Qzot | I'm trying to send real links, so that everyone's cache is brought up-to-date. |
| 22:40.40 | Qzot | Well, I'm not trying. Not going to take the time to implement here. Just thinking out loud. |
| 22:40.58 | MentalPower | Itemizer is going to do that, but only for Guild/Raid |
| 22:41.12 | Kirov | MentalPower - and that'll be done when? |
| 22:41.13 | Qzot | I think Guild/Raid is an excellent choice. |
| 22:41.15 | MentalPower | I'm not going to bother doing it in global, too much hassle |
| 22:41.51 | MentalPower | Kirov: soon (tm) |
| 22:41.53 | MentalPower | :P |
| 22:42.15 | Kirov | Is that Blizzard soon, Valve soon, or 3D Realms soon? |
| 22:42.46 | MentalPower | hmm... I only know Blizzard soon, how do Valve and 3dRealms define it? |
| 22:43.58 | Tain | Duke Nuke'm Forever! |
| 22:44.01 | zenzelezz | 3DRealms also don't know soon |
| 22:44.20 | Xuerian | rofl. |
| 22:45.00 | zenzelezz | I dislike the way Valve changed TF2 |
| 22:45.45 | Kirkburn|Vista | TF was always cartoony |
| 22:45.49 | Kirov | Valve soon is around a year, 3D Realms soon is somewhere between forever and never. |
| 22:45.59 | Kirkburn|Vista | Aren't there enough army games around already? |
| 22:46.07 | zenzelezz | Kirk: no - not the way it was being made back in 2000 |
| 22:46.11 | zenzelezz | then it was a serious type game |
| 22:46.17 | Kirkburn|Vista | That's why I said TF, not TF2 :P |
| 22:46.40 | zenzelezz | no-one said anything about normal TF :-o |
| 22:46.46 | Kirkburn|Vista | I did ;) |
| 22:46.54 | Kirkburn|Vista | muahaha |
| 22:47.26 | Kirkburn|Vista | zenzelezz, but there's already hundreds of realistic army-style games around, can you really take another? |
| 22:47.45 | zenzelezz | yes, because most of them suck |
| 22:47.48 | Kirkburn|Vista | heh |
| 22:47.50 | Kirov | The original TF looked awesome when they first released screenshots. |
| 22:47.58 | MentalPower | Kirov: then its blizzard soon :) |
| 22:47.59 | zenzelezz | TF2 was looking promising back then(tm) |
| 22:48.09 | Kirov | MentalPower - ~3 months |
| 22:48.37 | MentalPower | maybe faster than that, depends on where I stop adding features |
| 22:48.46 | Cairenn | can I kill the blizz ui forum |
| 22:48.49 | Cairenn | please? |
| 22:48.51 | Cairenn | pretty please? |
| 22:49.17 | Kirkburn|Vista | Which implement would you like to use? |
| 22:49.23 | Kirkburn|Vista | I can offer you cheeesewire? |
| 22:49.38 | zenzelezz | someone being an asshat on the UI forum again? |
| 22:49.39 | Cairenn | *sobs at the stupidity* |
| 22:49.45 | MentalPower | Cairenn: why? |
| 22:49.45 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381238&sid=1 |
| 22:49.48 | Kirkburn|Vista | There's a great offer on Uzis today |
| 22:49.49 | Qzot | Cairenn: Would that not be redundant? |
| 22:49.58 | Qzot | Cairenn: I think Blizzard beat you to it. |
| 22:50.04 | Esamynn | ouch |
| 22:50.32 | Kirkburn|Vista | rofl |
| 22:50.36 | Qzot | Cairenn: Except that you would be more merciful, and give it a *quick*, obvious death, rather than leave it in a brain-dead, vegetative state. |
| 22:51.07 | Qzot | (Is my irrascibility showing? :P ) |
| 22:51.10 | Cairenn | Like, seriously, I'd so love to go completely off on some of those people some days |
| 22:51.32 | Cairenn | Hi, you're a complete and utter MORON, grow a BRAIN |
| 22:51.48 | Esamynn | ~comfort Cairenn |
| 22:51.49 | purl | There, there, Cairenn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:51.57 | Qzot | Imagine the planning meeting for the current forums... |
| 22:52.13 | Qzot | "Lots of new features. Who cares if you can access them." |
| 22:52.49 | Cairenn | Qzot: it isn't the actual forums themselves (although they can be frustrating enough) but more so a lot of the complete and utter idiotic posts |
| 22:53.11 | Qzot | Ah. I'm irritated by the underlying mechanics, and not being able to view the posts. |
| 22:53.23 | Cairenn | the last three posts (not counting mine) of that thread just ... argh |
| 22:53.34 | Cairenn | the last one is simply unbelievable |
| 22:53.48 | Cairenn | how the hell do you "bump" a stickied thread? *boggle* |
| 22:54.14 | Qzot | "We know that people often come to the forums, frustrated by some issue in the game. With judicious use of web technology, we can so frustrate them, that by the time they give up, they are no longer frustrated at the *game*. |
| 22:54.23 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:54.32 | Esamynn | the bump is just sad |
| 22:54.50 | Cairenn | if you mean pathetic, you're right |
| 22:55.27 | Cairenn | oh how I wish I had moderation abilities on the forum |
| 22:55.38 | Esamynn | or at least on that particular thread ;) |
| 22:55.42 | Cairenn | at the very least, on my sticky threads |
| 22:55.43 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:56.19 | Qzot | Meh. Everything in moderation, eh? |
| 22:56.43 | Cairenn | Qzot: apparently not on the Blizz forums ... idiocy abounds |
| 22:56.52 | Cairenn | later Esamynn|Away |
| 22:56.55 | Industrial | What was the addon that remembers AH sale prizes for you again? |
| 22:57.08 | Qzot | BeanCounter, I think. |
| 22:57.10 | Cairenn | KCI? Auctioneer? |
| 22:58.42 | Esamynn | don't mind the random disconnects, wireless is being flakey |
| 22:58.43 | Industrial | no, one that saves your actuon prize settings for items |
| 22:58.49 | Industrial | so you wont have to refill the form every time |
| 22:58.55 | Industrial | if you are mass auctioning |
| 22:59.00 | Industrial | (eg 500 linen cloth :P) |
| 22:59.06 | Cairenn | Igore's Mass auction |
| 22:59.13 | Industrial | k |
| 22:59.15 | Industrial | ta :) |
| 22:59.23 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4060 |
| 22:59.28 | Cairenn | Igor* |
| 23:00.13 | Cairenn | Was that the one you were thinking of? |
| 23:01.23 | zenzelezz | Auctioneer remembers my prices for me at least |
| 23:02.02 | Cairenn | Auctioneer & KCI both remember for me as well, last I checked them, but when he said "mass auctioning" I thought perhaps he was thinking of Igor's |
| 23:02.20 | zenzelezz | probably |
| 23:02.31 | Cairenn | Industrial: so? |
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| 23:04.29 | Industrial | Cairenn: yes, thanks :) |
| 23:04.39 | Cairenn | Industrial: cool, you're welcome |
| 23:04.52 | Cairenn | Industrial: hope it still works, no idea though, hasn't been updated in a while |
| 23:10.41 | MentalPower | Cairenn: thanks for reminding me to update Auctioneer on WoWI |
| 23:10.58 | Cairenn | MentalPower: heh, np :p |
| 23:12.02 | Esamynn | ~lart MentalPower |
| 23:12.31 | Qzot | MentalPower: Are you gonna be the one implementing the Auctioneer search predicate hooks? |
| 23:12.45 | MentalPower | probably |
| 23:12.55 | MentalPower | if not me vindicator, but most probably me |
| 23:20.20 | Esamynn | later all, off to class for me |
| 23:22.06 | Qzot | MentalPower: Any chance of you building it as a patch to the existing version, and letting me try to play with it? I could even contribute back some standard filters that might be useful. |
| 23:27.39 | cmunn | define lart? |
| 23:27.52 | cmunn | ~define lart |
| 23:27.56 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 23:28.02 | cmunn | ~dict lart |
| 23:29.18 | cmunn | ~lart purl |
| 23:29.27 | cmunn | Heh, figured that would happen. |
| 23:33.30 | Mikk | Bad dictionary entry |
| 23:34.09 | Mikk | A LART is a personal thing. Some prefers a trusty two-by-four, others more direct means. Whatever works for you. |
| 23:46.37 | MentalPower | Qzot: We're currently trying to stabilize the trunk (since we just changed the database format). Once thats done I can add the remaining features. |
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| 23:58.46 | MentalPower | Ok, which version is fastest? http://wowi.pastey.net/1307 |
| 23:58.54 | MentalPower | the first one or the second? |
