| 00:01.38 | Kirochi | maybe act as a lazy peon ? |
| 00:01.39 | Kirochi | :p |
| 00:01.48 | Kirochi | *ker-thwack* |
| 00:02.05 | Kirochi | I'd love to see his stupid face clubbed by newbies |
| 00:03.41 | Kirochi | rofl he's gonna produce "Far Cry" |
| 00:03.58 | Kirochi | another VG flick ==> trash bin |
| 00:05.46 | nevcairiel | [Ammo] you still awake? |
| 00:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | one movie that he cant go wrong with is postak |
| 00:07.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | wow |
| 00:07.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | postal |
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| 00:07.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | it's like perfect for him, no story to wreck, and mindless killing |
| 00:07.38 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:08.27 | zenzelezz | I can see the headlines |
| 00:08.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | he boxed a forum admin from a forum i go to for the postal movie |
| 00:08.34 | zenzelezz | "A far cry from worthy" |
| 00:08.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | he boxes in his freetime, so he beat the crap out of poor Lowtax :[ |
| 00:08.58 | zenzelezz | I've never cared for Lowtax |
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| 00:10.27 | Kaso | Uwe boll is a jackass. |
| 00:10.28 | Kirochi | xD |
| 00:10.33 | Thrae | Lowtax? Sounds like another Republican promise... |
| 00:11.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | he took his nickname from a crazy politician |
| 00:11.06 | Kirochi | omg what if we get spielberg ? Steven Spielberg ? Y'know, DA Steven Spielberg ? hm ? What if ? |
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| 00:11.18 | Mr_Rabies2 | if only it was cg |
| 00:11.24 | zenzelezz | Lowtax is that Something Awful goon |
| 00:11.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | 2 hours of blizzard cg and voice actors would be heaven |
| 00:11.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | screw whatever next expansion or game they're working on |
| 00:12.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | seeing arthas as like brad pitt or something would make me sad |
| 00:12.04 | Kirochi | :p |
| 00:12.06 | Thrae | Yes, I am aware of that. |
| 00:12.29 | Kirochi | I don't remember who suggested vladimir kulich, but that guy didn't have his brain up his ass |
| 00:12.43 | Kirochi | the dude really looks like a death knight |
| 00:12.49 | Kirochi | even w/out make up |
| 00:13.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | if they had some comedy scenes i'd enjoy it |
| 00:13.18 | zenzelezz | the idea of Vin Diesel as 47 in a Hitman movie saddens me |
| 00:13.20 | Mr_Rabies2 | like it cuts to the barrens and someone's like |
| 00:13.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | YOUR MOM DOES |
| 00:13.41 | Kirochi | does what ? |
| 00:13.43 | Kirochi | barren ? |
| 00:13.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | or WHERE IS MANKRIK'S WIFE? |
| 00:13.57 | Kirochi | LMAO |
| 00:14.10 | Kirochi | and a CHuck Norris-Saurfang scene |
| 00:14.15 | Mr_Rabies2 | "your mom does" is a pitiful comeback to an insult that's only funny if it makes no sense :o |
| 00:14.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | like "you suck at warcraft" "your mom does" |
| 00:14.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 00:14.44 | zenzelezz | the thing I always found most amusing in The Barrens was the level 20- people whining about being ganked there |
| 00:15.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | people whine about being ganked in xroads on alliance on my pve server |
| 00:15.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | it boggles the mind |
| 00:15.25 | Kirochi | aw |
| 00:15.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | GUYS COME TO XR AND SAVE ME *shift clicks on name and sees a level 25 hunter* |
| 00:15.38 | Kirochi | what'd also be funny |
| 00:15.53 | Kirochi | some dude yelling at any time day in day out of the movie |
| 00:15.59 | Kirochi | TARREN MILL IS UNDER ATTACK ! |
| 00:16.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | or cut to tarren mill and there's like piles of bodies and deathguards everywhere |
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| 00:18.00 | Kirochi | and in the middle of a gigantesque battle scene all soldiers yelling leetspeek |
| 00:18.13 | Kirochi | OMG YE BEEN PWNED |
| 00:18.29 | Kirochi | JOO SUXOR ALLY |
| 00:18.48 | zenzelezz | I'd appreciate an epic pre-combat scene, where you see them all getting ready and such, and then halfway through hearing someone in the crowd shouting "INVITE ME GOD DAMNIT" |
| 00:19.15 | Kirochi | and other replying 'SORRY FULL RAID' |
| 00:19.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | a running gag of a priest being like "looking for group" and 50 people swarm them asking for them to help |
| 00:20.04 | Kirochi | 'do you want me to clean your feet with my hair ?' |
| 00:20.14 | Kirochi | (I just love playing my priest) |
| 00:20.32 | Kirochi | Yes, please, bow deeper |
| 00:22.10 | Kirochi | and ... have you thought about gnomes ? |
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| 00:23.42 | zenzelezz | I think gnomes should have a racial passive -threat, because you just can't feel intimidated by those tiny meat balls |
| 00:23.46 | Cairenn | Kirkburn|Vista: btw, yeah, you're right ;) |
| 00:23.54 | Kirochi | pink haired with double ponytails female gnomes ftw |
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| 00:24.52 | Kirochi | http://www.egscomics.com/comics/egs20030612.gif |
| 00:27.54 | Kirkburn|Vista | Cairenn ... see! SEEE! I tole ya :P |
| 00:27.59 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:28.22 | Kirochi | ??? |
| 00:28.35 | Kirkburn|Vista | *innocent whistling* |
| 00:29.14 | Kirochi | *innocent hammer-wielding* |
| 00:29.36 | Kirkburn|Vista | *innocent running-away-and-hiding-for-no-reason-whatsoever |
| 00:30.02 | Kirochi | *war stomping* |
| 00:30.22 | Tain | The Woz was on the Colbert Report last night, and it was sadly uninteresting. |
| 00:30.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah |
| 00:31.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | rerunning now |
| 00:31.59 | Tain | But the Colbert Green Screen Challenge was pretty damn funny |
| 00:32.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | no mr tauren hunter, your 30 damage melee swings don't really hurt |
| 00:34.08 | Kirochi | Well, bye you guys, I'm going home |
| 00:34.51 | Cairenn | bye |
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| 00:35.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | ahhh finally doing av just for fun |
| 00:39.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | oh my |
| 00:40.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | every trogg in the cave zerged me at once |
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| 01:12.58 | Industrial | http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1009/wowscrnshot093006031005hu1.jpg |
| 01:13.01 | Industrial | I'm thinking about putting my minimap under my actionbar |
| 01:13.33 | Kirkburn|Vista | What's the addon that puts co-ords on the minimap? |
| 01:13.37 | zenzelezz | so empty |
| 01:13.53 | Industrial | I put all my little addons in one addon |
| 01:14.24 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/1206 |
| 01:14.35 | Industrial | mousewheel scrolling, removes some stuff and the loc text |
| 01:15.41 | Kirkburn|Vista | Ta, I'll keep that handy |
| 01:15.41 | Industrial | np |
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| 01:21.07 | Industrial | SLASH_RELOAD1 = '/rl' SlashCmdList['RELOAD'] = ReloadUI |
| 01:21.10 | Industrial | xD |
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| 01:33.52 | Cairenn | and sure enough ... |
| 01:33.59 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=29424373&sid=1 |
| 01:34.10 | Cairenn | oh, how people just make me want to scream some days |
| 01:37.13 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:37.13 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:51.36 | MentalPower | what is faster "if (not foo) then" or "if (foo == nil) then" (if foo is nil) |
| 01:51.56 | cladhaire | if not foo |
| 01:54.05 | MentalPower | thats what I thought, thanks :) |
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| 02:22.24 | Cairenn | hi Kirov |
| 02:24.25 | Kirov | allo |
| 02:35.41 | Kirov | Do we have a way of adjusting a button's hitrect from script now? |
| 02:35.46 | Kirov | Or is that still xml only |
| 02:36.12 | Xuerian | SetHitRectInsets(left,right,top,bottom) Iirc |
| 02:36.36 | Xuerian | Negative values work |
| 02:36.39 | KaeltenAway | night guys |
| 02:37.18 | Cairenn | night KaeltenAway, sweet dreams |
| 02:42.56 | Kirov | Iriel - You around? |
| 02:42.58 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep, sweet dreams |
| 02:43.04 | Iriel | Mostly |
| 02:43.30 | Kirov | Iriel - is your event addon code online someplace/ |
| 02:43.44 | clad|sleep | Cairenn: Night |
| 02:43.50 | Iriel | I can send you a copy |
| 02:44.05 | Iriel | msg me your email address |
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| 02:44.37 | Kirov | Get it? |
| 02:46.00 | Kirov | You can take a _wild_ guess at what my real name is from that e-mail address, not that I don't list it on all my addons already. |
| 02:47.24 | Iriel | heh |
| 02:47.27 | Iriel | Sent |
| 02:48.03 | Kirov | got it |
| 02:57.17 | Iriel | Cool, it's quite rudementary from a UI perspective |
| 02:57.27 | Iriel | but you can drag it from its title region and at least move it out of the way |
| 02:57.32 | Kirov | Yeah, I like it. |
| 02:57.54 | Kirov | I'll probably redo the options menu I have to match the visuals. |
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| 03:01.59 | Iriel | cool |
| 03:03.46 | Kirov | I have a basic version of the options menu I made up online if you want to see it. |
| 03:04.02 | Kirov | atm it's uber uber inefficent memory wise. |
| 03:04.09 | Iriel | I do, but not yet - no wow access for a bit |
| 03:04.14 | Kirov | k |
| 03:15.08 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/eventMenu.jpg |
| 03:18.06 | Kirov | left click to toggle display, right click to toggle logging, clicking on the expandable parts will enable / disable all children, shift + click on expandable to expand / collapse, control + click to toggle both |
| 03:18.17 | Kirov | or you can just click on the buttons. |
| 03:25.17 | Xuerian | Nice, Kirov |
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| 03:43.46 | Iriel | Does it require a pre-built event list, or can it add more on the fly as they're discovered? |
| 03:44.00 | Kirov | At the moment it's generated completely on the fly. |
| 03:44.09 | Iriel | excellent |
| 03:44.11 | Kirov | Which is why it's so stupendously inefficent. |
| 03:44.59 | Kirov | I know I can do something to clean it up, but right now it generates 200kb worth of table data. |
| 03:45.06 | Kirov | ie: bad! |
| 03:45.23 | MentalPower | :RegisterAllEvents() is ineficient to begin with |
| 03:45.42 | Kirov | MentalPower - but it doesn't use up a quarter of a meg |
| 03:45.48 | Iriel | It's actually remarkably efficient |
| 03:45.58 | Iriel | it just gives ones code a lot to do |
| 03:46.04 | MentalPower | efficient is the wrong word |
| 03:46.27 | MentalPower | For Debug/Testing only |
| 03:53.31 | Kirov | hmm... just realized the check box really just needs to be a 3 way switch |
| 03:53.45 | Kirov | if it's not being logged, it's not being displayed. |
| 03:59.43 | Corr[home] | sigh. i can easily hit exalted with frostwolf tonight but i can't afford riding training, now. >:/ |
| 04:03.42 | Corr[home] | and since it can take me days to find a party for a relevant instance, that means i'm not gaining money quickly either |
| 04:04.20 | MentalPower | Auctioneer FTW! |
| 04:04.59 | Corr[home] | oh yes, that was just wonderful how it stuck me with a green dragonscale breastplate at a good value that, unfortunately, i can't sell for anything. |
| 04:05.16 | Corr[home] | other than perhaps vending it |
| 04:05.21 | MentalPower | well its a tool, not a bot |
| 04:06.13 | End | it's a number cruncher and a database |
| 04:06.30 | MentalPower | correct |
| 04:06.34 | End | :) |
| 04:06.41 | End | oh crap, doing chromaggus |
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| 04:19.04 | Cairenn | evening ckknight |
| 04:19.12 | ckknight | hey |
| 04:19.34 | Corr[home] | nobody ever wants to do DM East |
| 04:20.08 | Corr[home] | it's all strat live, strat dead, SM, and RFC |
| 04:21.51 | jaxdahl | Alchemists will be able to specialize in transmutations or potions. Specializing in potions allows you a chance to create more than one potion with a single crafting click. That is just one item that might sway doubt. |
| 04:22.15 | Cairenn | interesting |
| 04:22.29 | jaxdahl | on lfg: We'll probably be highlighting this system on the website next week. I've been writing text for that and researching the mechanics of it this week. It's mostly finished and already in the most up-to-date builds for the expansion. |
| 04:23.07 | Corr[home] | "sway doubt"? |
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| 04:23.29 | Corr[home] | hm, i hope they don't intend to take away our ability to talk globally |
| 04:26.02 | Corr[home] | auctioneer tells me this schematic: arcanite dragonling is highly overpriced. DONT BELIEVE IT |
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| 04:28.04 | Corr[home] | *underpriced |
| 04:29.26 | Corr[home] | oddly, i've seen a lot of people advertising for BFD, too. i don't think i even ever did that instance. |
| 04:30.13 | jaxdahl | 'Okay, I'll let you have that. But I doubt that Professions are going to be looked onto with a whole new faith just because of Jewelcrafting. I doubt you guys will ever make a LFG system. And, yes, the hunters still need stable slots. ' |
| 04:30.35 | jaxdahl | then tseric replied to him |
| 04:31.26 | Cairenn | jaxdahl: link? |
| 04:31.35 | jaxdahl | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/30213965.htm |
| 04:33.16 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
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| 04:46.13 | jaxdahl | how long has Paid Char Xfer been down? |
| 04:49.11 | Plorkyeran | Isn't it only availible 9-6 weekdays? |
| 04:59.30 | Guillotine | is there any easy way to tell what spell/item is on the cursor without hooking the functions for picking them up? |
| 04:59.47 | Kirov | Nope |
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| 05:40.58 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/eventMenu.jpg - update |
| 05:41.33 | Xuerian | Much nicer layout |
| 05:41.33 | Iriel | Looks good. |
| 05:45.24 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 05:45.33 | Xuerian | 'Night. Sleep well =) |
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| 06:26.08 | Kirov | lol |
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| 07:14.00 | Kirov | string.gfind is being replace with string.gmatch, right? |
| 07:15.02 | Kirov | for text in string.gmatch(msg, "%a+") do will still be valid to, right? |
| 07:15.07 | Kirov | no pairs() needed |
| 07:20.44 | Esamynn | Kirov: yes |
| 07:20.54 | Esamynn | same function, just a name change |
| 07:21.11 | Esamynn | night all |
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| 07:34.59 | AnduinLothar | does a stack become locked if I split it and drop part of it somewhere? |
| 07:54.58 | Kirov | Iriel - still around? |
| 07:56.31 | Iriel | sorta 8-) |
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| 07:57.07 | Kirov | I'm getting confused about something. |
| 07:57.31 | Kirov | Functions I add to ETVIS appear to exist, but any tables I add don't? |
| 07:57.45 | Kirov | At least beyond the current scope. |
| 07:58.02 | Kirov | They're acting as if they're just locals. |
| 07:58.30 | Esamynn | ETVIS? |
| 07:59.34 | Iriel | It's intended as an object template, not a single instance, but I suspect you know that |
| 08:00.23 | Kirov | There's no way to define a table in a template then? |
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| 08:00.51 | Iriel | There is, but you need to be sure that's how you want it to work |
| 08:01.01 | Kirov | hmm... probably not. |
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| 08:01.21 | Iriel | Generally you create them during 'new' in the new instance |
| 08:02.27 | Kirov | Ah, I see where I'm going wrong. |
| 08:05.02 | Kirov | ok, ugly hack |
| 08:05.25 | Iriel | Ugly hacks are ok to get stuff started |
| 08:05.27 | Kirov | I actually missed the fact that the event frame was being created as an object instance. |
| 08:05.54 | Iriel | The idea was to allow multiple of them with different filters, if necessary or desired |
| 08:06.05 | Kirov | right |
| 08:08.22 | Kirov | hmm... |
| 08:09.17 | Kirov | There needs to be a better way to generate the events list. |
| 08:10.33 | Iriel | I figured i'd probably pre-load the normal ones |
| 08:10.41 | Iriel | and then add newly discovered ones as they show up |
| 08:11.14 | Esamynn | ok, night again all |
| 08:12.50 | Kirov | Ok, so the event list itself needs to exist outside of the object instances. |
| 08:13.21 | Iriel | I would imagine so, yes |
| 08:13.31 | Iriel | possibly the event collector should be shared for now also |
| 08:14.52 | Kirov | so, atm on :Add I have an if check to add events to DevTools_Events |
| 08:15.32 | Kirov | if (not DevTools_Events[ie]) then DevTools_Events[ie] = true; end |
| 08:16.32 | Kirov | That "should" work, though it means keeping the default list of events in the SV. |
| 08:17.12 | Kirov | now, to compile said list |
| 08:18.35 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_From_Disassembly mmm |
| 08:19.55 | Iriel | I would grep for RegisterEvent in the source, then look at the event lists in ChatFrame.lua |
| 08:21.03 | Kirov | That's an exceptionally incomplete list though. |
| 08:22.15 | Iriel | I'm not so sure, it's a pretty good list to get started with |
| 08:22.44 | Kirov | that wiki page is all of them, minus a couple that've been added since 1.10 or when ever that list was created |
| 08:22.47 | Iriel | if by 'that' you mean the one from source scanning, not the disassembly one. |
| 08:22.58 | Kirov | Yes |
| 08:25.05 | FISKER_Q | can't you get a list of events without using disassembly? |
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| 08:38.34 | Iriel | YOu can get a list of the ones you've seen |
| 08:38.44 | Iriel | but not necessarily all the ones that might be possible |
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| 08:43.13 | ceph | lot of http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_From_Disassembly aren't even events :\ |
| 08:44.17 | Kirov | ceph - true, but many of them are. |
| 08:46.06 | ceph | yeah, would be pretty accurate is they removed the ones that are in that one globalization file |
| 08:46.31 | ceph | if they* |
| 08:51.01 | Kirov | doh |
| 08:51.41 | Kirov | Iriel - You're using :Add to add the OnUpdate information ... which means I'm adding OnUpdate to my events list. >.< |
| 08:51.43 | Kirov | opps |
| 08:52.00 | Iriel | Well, I suspect it should be there in case someone doesn't want to see it |
| 08:52.31 | Kirov | True, but probably not as part of the event list. |
| 08:52.46 | Kirov | I can special case that someplace in the options. |
| 08:54.38 | Iriel | I suggest putting your event list builder in the OnEvent handler, rather than inside :Add |
| 08:54.49 | Kirov | Yep, did just that. |
| 08:56.07 | Kirov | Another minor issue caused by the fact your event watcher starts watching events from the time it's created ... SVs haven't been loaded yet. |
| 08:56.09 | Kirov | heh |
| 08:56.44 | Iriel | That's fine, it wont catch enough to fill up |
| 08:56.53 | Iriel | it should just capture everything until SV's are in |
| 08:57.16 | Kirov | which _should_ all be known events |
| 08:57.54 | Iriel | If not, you can always just scan the loop on ADDON_LOADED |
| 09:01.01 | Kirov | oh, btw, want me to add a faux scroll frame to the event list while I'm "here" |
| 09:01.24 | Iriel | I was going to do that a bit differently, so only if you're really bored 8-) |
| 09:01.32 | Kirov | oh? |
| 09:01.37 | Iriel | the renderer is a bit rudimentary at the moment |
| 09:02.12 | Kirov | I'll skip it |
| 09:02.32 | Iriel | Ok 8-) |
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| 09:09.35 | Kirochi | hi |
| 09:09.51 | Kirochi | I just made this banner |
| 09:09.52 | Kirochi | http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5867/wowwikibannerto5.png |
| 09:10.08 | Kirochi | how is it ? |
| 09:11.40 | Kirov | the alignment of the WoW logo looks off |
| 09:13.16 | Kirochi | you want it higher or lower than the text ? |
| 09:13.34 | Kirov | Iriel - ok, I think I have the options frame done. And it should work per-object instance |
| 09:13.55 | Iriel | excellent! I look forward to playing around with it tomorrow! |
| 09:14.41 | Kirov | It doesn't interact with the actual event frame yet |
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| 09:15.12 | Kirov | Not sure how to do the log vs display split |
| 09:15.33 | Iriel | maybe a toggle between modes |
| 09:15.42 | Iriel | And you can't display what you're not logging |
| 09:16.39 | Kirov | Yep, which is why the options now have 3 settings. |
| 09:16.55 | Kirov | check (display and logging), grey check (logging, no display) and unchecked (not logging) |
| 09:17.22 | Iriel | maybe click toggles display, shift click toggles logging |
| 09:17.26 | Iriel | or somesuch |
| 09:17.41 | Iriel | if you're already using modifiers for something else, just put a 'logging/display' checkbox |
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| 09:18.55 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/eventMenu.jpg - current revision |
| 09:19.14 | Kirov | Added a ? to the main frame to open the options |
| 09:19.39 | Kirov | The option frame should be unique to each instance. |
| 09:28.53 | Kirov | e-mailed the current version to you. bed time for me. |
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| 12:02.38 | Nihoa | hi |
| 12:03.56 | Nihoa | suche ein addon für judgement of wisdom/light (bartimer) |
| 12:08.04 | Mikma | Nihoa: lederhosen |
| 12:08.44 | Nihoa | ? |
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| 14:26.31 | axxo | any good gatherer addons? |
| 14:26.43 | Cairenn | gatherer, ct map mod |
| 14:27.35 | axxo | those aren't good |
| 14:27.39 | axxo | don't work half the time |
| 14:27.47 | Cairenn | well, that's a matter of personal opinion, isn't it? |
| 14:27.54 | axxo | it is, know any bad ones? |
| 14:27.56 | Cairenn | what do you mean "don't work half the time"? |
| 14:28.10 | Cairenn | not marking new locations? |
| 14:28.13 | axxo | indeed |
| 14:28.19 | Cairenn | that's a BLIZZARD bug |
| 14:28.25 | Cairenn | known one, in fact |
| 14:28.34 | Cairenn | it's fixed for the expansion |
| 14:28.39 | axxo | pf :\ |
| 14:28.41 | Cairenn | so, say again how those aren't good mods? |
| 14:29.00 | Cairenn | and for the record, the latest gatherer has a work around for it |
| 14:30.09 | nevcairiel | gatherer sometimes fails to record fish-schools, but beside that, its good. |
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| 14:43.44 | Nightdew | is there anyway to find out the immunities of a creature? |
| 14:43.54 | Nightdew | without simply casting a spell and failing |
| 14:48.52 | Hatsuki | iirc ct mapmod doesnt collect those locations unless you have detect herb/vein on |
| 15:00.26 | axxo | and if i don't want to use ct mapmod? |
| 15:02.22 | Cairenn | then don't use it |
| 15:02.30 | Hatsuki | well, you could do like I do. Learn spawns by heart. |
| 15:04.19 | Plorkyeran | I never really found that Gatherer actually helped much |
| 15:04.29 | Plorkyeran | Besides the first trip or two to a zone |
| 15:12.52 | axxo | woo, i made it work again |
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| 15:45.46 | krka_ | w00t, my brothers ubuntu computer managed to play wow with regular wine now |
| 15:46.19 | krka_ | vertices are fubar with d3d though, and opengl only works if you disable double buffering :P |
| 15:46.23 | krka_ | other than that it's good |
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| 16:19.48 | Kaelten | hi |
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| 16:34.12 | [hZ]Cubensis | hey, anyone here who can answer a quick question of mine? |
| 16:34.48 | Cairenn | can try |
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| 16:35.20 | [hZ]Cubensis | ok, i'll explain briefly what i'm trying to achieve. I have 5 template frames layed out horizontally, each one Anchored to it's predesecor |
| 16:35.25 | [hZ]Cubensis | [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] |
| 16:35.43 | [hZ]Cubensis | i want to be able to scale any frame to 3-4 times it's size (to enlarge, say, 2 - with 2 anchored in it's bottomright corner) |
| 16:35.59 | [hZ]Cubensis | when i use SetScale(2.0) - it appear to change it's positioning, and the positioning of elements hung off it |
| 16:36.06 | [hZ]Cubensis | is there any way to directly access the Size? |
| 16:36.22 | [hZ]Cubensis | i know Frame:SetPoint( ), but there seems to be no Frame:SetSize( 40, 50 ) sort of thing |
| 16:38.55 | [hZ]Cubensis | [finished the monologue btw :p] |
| 16:39.21 | Xuerian | SetWidth & SetHeight |
| 16:39.25 | [hZ]Cubensis | omfg |
| 16:39.28 | Tuller | frame:GetWidth(), frame:GetHeight(), I do wish there was a frame:SetSize(width, height), because I'm lazy |
| 16:39.28 | Xuerian | ;) |
| 16:39.35 | [hZ]Cubensis | thanks |
| 16:39.40 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.12 | [hZ]Cubensis | (1 hr spent looking into that..) |
| 16:40.21 | [hZ]Cubensis | >_< who the hell doesn't provide SetSize >_< |
| 16:40.24 | Xuerian | wowwiki.com/Widget_API is your friend |
| 16:40.31 | Xuerian | (I think that's the lnk) |
| 16:40.32 | [hZ]Cubensis | aye, searched that inside out |
| 16:40.32 | Xuerian | link* |
| 16:40.40 | [hZ]Cubensis | kept searching for the keyword "Size" though |
| 16:41.00 | Xuerian | Don't search it, look at the widget you want to access ;P |
| 16:41.45 | [hZ]Cubensis | wow, now when i look, i see it straight away =D |
| 16:41.46 | Xuerian | In this case Region, since Frame inherits Region and Regions are raw containers |
| 16:42.08 | Xuerian | Hehe, I've stared at that page for my share of hours too |
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| 16:54.08 | [hZ]Cubensis | ok, another quick question which someone may know =) |
| 16:54.20 | [hZ]Cubensis | is there an event (frame) for mouse moving out of a zone? |
| 16:54.28 | [hZ]Cubensis | you have (in buttons), OnClick, OnMouseDown etc |
| 16:54.36 | [hZ]Cubensis | is there a OnBlur |
| 16:54.42 | [hZ]Cubensis | or OnMouseLeave etc? |
| 16:55.05 | [hZ]Cubensis | (I know blizz have access to it, as they must use it to enable/disable the HIGHLIGHT artwork layer) |
| 16:56.21 | Mery | OnMouseLeave |
| 16:56.26 | [hZ]Cubensis | <3 you =) |
| 16:56.29 | Mery | and OnMouseEnter |
| 16:56.37 | Mery | wait |
| 16:56.38 | Mery | OnEnter |
| 16:56.41 | Mery | and OnLeave |
| 16:56.50 | Mery | without that mouse |
| 16:56.55 | [hZ]Cubensis | rgr =) trying now |
| 16:57.08 | Mery | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Handlers |
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| 17:03.38 | Crispix | Greetings everyone :D |
| 17:03.46 | Cide | hi |
| 17:04.09 | Crispix | Perhaps has anyone seen Cairenn today or is she still not awake/around for the morning? |
| 17:04.50 | Crispix | ello Luv. I got invited into the Mazz beta testing :) |
| 17:05.30 | Crispix | I'm still awaiting your/mazzes/dobbs okay to enter the forum, I thought I might tell you. :) |
| 17:06.57 | Cairenn | Mazzle approves, no one else, sorry |
| 17:07.06 | Crispix | o.O |
| 17:07.22 | Crispix | Lovely, I wonder when they'll be awake. :\ |
| 17:07.41 | Crispix | Just finished reading the rules of the installs, and the beta testing instructions |
| 17:08.08 | Cairenn | Crispix: save it for when you get into the beta forum |
| 17:08.21 | Crispix | Save what? |
| 17:08.29 | Cairenn | commentary about it :p |
| 17:08.34 | Crispix | oooh |
| 17:16.32 | Cairenn | not trying to be rude, but Mazzle isn't in this channel, never has been, and discussion of a closed beta mod in a public channel is less than a stellar plan |
| 17:16.35 | [hZ]Cubensis | having something wierd happening |
| 17:16.45 | [hZ]Cubensis | in a Button OnClick handler, i have some code (which works fine) |
| 17:16.49 | [hZ]Cubensis | when i guard the code with |
| 17:16.49 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.58 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.03 | [hZ]Cubensis | it fails, and won't load the XML |
| 17:17.04 | [hZ]Cubensis | O_o |
| 17:17.27 | [hZ]Cubensis | am i missing something stupidly obvious here ? |
| 17:17.35 | [hZ]Cubensis | cut out, works, paste back in, fails |
| 17:17.36 | Crispix | mm.. okay Cairenn, I just was wondering if you did approvals for the forums, thats all.. but because you don't I shan't bother you, I fully plan to talk about the actual UI in the UI's intended spot when / if I get approved. |
| 17:17.50 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 17:18.13 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=30401&postcount=204 |
| 17:20.15 | [hZ]Cubensis | wow, i'm just smashing my head against a wall atm, trying to figure this out |
| 17:20.28 | [hZ]Cubensis | i simply fail to see, how enclosing some code in a logic statement, can break the XML |
| 17:20.35 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.35 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.35 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.36 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.36 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.36 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.40 | [hZ]Cubensis | that's the final code atm |
| 17:20.55 | [hZ]Cubensis | if i remove the if and end lines, works perfectly |
| 17:21.03 | [hZ]Cubensis | if i leave the if and end lines in, fails to load addon |
| 17:21.31 | [hZ]Cubensis | (oh, there is a ..) |
| 17:21.31 | [hZ]Cubensis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.34 | Tuller | < is the start of a tag |
| 17:21.36 | [hZ]Cubensis | at the top of the OnClick handler |
| 17:21.42 | [hZ]Cubensis | omfg.. lol @ Tuller |
| 17:21.45 | [hZ]Cubensis | =) thanks |
| 17:21.47 | Mikma | anyone here uses zhCH or koKR with wow? |
| 17:21.54 | [hZ]Cubensis | so, err, not >= works? |
| 17:22.29 | Cide | no |
| 17:22.34 | Cide | the xml parser reads it as an xml tag and errors |
| 17:22.48 | Tuller | [hZ]Cubensis: I'd call a function. |
| 17:22.57 | [hZ]Cubensis | ack, i think it's looking like that =( k, thanks all |
| 17:23.43 | Cide | you want to put most of your lua code into functions (and lua files!) anyway, for maintainability |
| 17:24.19 | Crispix | I hate..hate.. hate having to rename stuff in my wtf folder and my server names and stuff. :/ |
| 17:25.12 | [hZ]Cubensis | perfect Tuller, thx |
| 17:25.45 | [hZ]Cubensis | (atm btw, the addon is 400 KB of code.. it's not small, and comprises around 30 .lua files |
| 17:25.56 | [hZ]Cubensis | i was somewhat hoping that i could contain this snippet in the XML, as it's far neater there |
| 17:26.55 | Cide | well, you could hardcode every single value that is less than 50! |
| 17:27.13 | Cide | if ( buttonheight == 49 or buttonheight == 48 or buttonheight == 47 or buttonheight == 46 or ... ) then ;) |
| 17:27.35 | [hZ]Cubensis | problem is, the height isn't an integer ;) |
| 17:27.43 | [hZ]Cubensis | the actual height reports as 44.999999999999 |
| 17:27.56 | [hZ]Cubensis | so i can't match to 45, which would be my ideal solutions, and i can't be arsed to math.ceil it |
| 17:28.00 | [hZ]Cubensis | just in case O_o |
| 17:28.10 | Cide | math.floor(buttonheight+0.5) is your friend! |
| 17:28.52 | Cide | though, a function is the most elegant solution anyway, I'd say |
| 17:34.31 | Crispix | ^^; wow.. that PhotecUI can really butcher up your wow o._O |
| 17:37.42 | Crispix | O_O |
| 17:37.50 | Crispix | http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5721/wowscrnshot091306221606nh7.jpg <-- take a look at that UI guys |
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| 17:38.50 | Industrial | Crispix: not very uncommon? |
| 17:39.08 | Crispix | I don't have any idea what they're running other than Scrolling Combat Tex |
| 17:39.09 | Crispix | t |
| 17:39.16 | Industrial | ace stuff |
| 17:39.20 | Crispix | And SCT gets on my nerves like mad. |
| 17:39.40 | Industrial | fubar on top, PerfectRaid frames on the right |
| 17:39.46 | Industrial | prolly otravi_CastingBar |
| 17:39.49 | Crispix | Yeah, I could see the fubar too. |
| 17:39.56 | kergoth | a lot of those addons are pretty nice individually, but that ui doesnt really fit together well |
| 17:40.02 | Industrial | thats about it.. |
| 17:40.11 | Crispix | kergoth made me go blech |
| 17:41.13 | Crispix | I need a UI... while I wait |
| 17:41.26 | Industrial | an* |
| 17:41.30 | Industrial | wait for? |
| 17:41.50 | Crispix | Industrial I'm one of 28 people Mazz has invited to join their closed beta test of their mod. |
| 17:41.58 | Crispix | well.. new 28 .. |
| 17:42.31 | Tuller | so, there's no way to reference a table within itself without calling it direclty by name, is there? |
| 17:42.42 | Crispix | my problem is, I'm now playing a Rogue class, and I haven't gotten a clue what I'm looking for in a UI now .. *Hasn't ever played a rogue..8 |
| 17:43.41 | kergoth | i ditched my raid frames on my rogue, no need to see health bars fore verybody, just use XRS for overall raid status |
| 17:43.46 | Crispix | http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ui4vr6.jpg ..WoW.. :o |
| 17:43.57 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/wow_052.jpg is mine on my rogue |
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| 17:44.07 | Crispix | Take a look at the energy / health bars.. :o |
| 17:44.31 | Crispix | kergoth what do your combo points look like? |
| 17:44.52 | kergoth | i'll take an sshot |
| 17:45.07 | Crispix | Thats one of my biggest problems |
| 17:45.25 | Crispix | Combo points on UI's always look like they fell out of a dumpster and got hit by a run away mac truck |
| 17:45.27 | Industrial | Crispix: mazz? |
| 17:45.35 | Industrial | Crispix: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/6755/wowscrnshot093006194428to4.jpg |
| 17:45.38 | Industrial | thats mine atm |
| 17:45.40 | Industrial | work in progress |
| 17:45.47 | kergoth | combo points are the main reason i dropped normal unitframes in favor of a HUD, there just wasnt enough combo point visibility |
| 17:45.59 | Crispix | Industrialhttp://mazzlefizz.wowinterface.com/ |
| 17:46.25 | Crispix | o.O |
| 17:46.29 | Crispix | I can't see your combo points |
| 17:46.39 | Industrial | Crispix: totally not my thing :| |
| 17:46.51 | Industrial | kergoth: see my screenshot |
| 17:46.52 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:47.09 | Xuerian | If you want frames with visible combo points, use Perl Classic. Not the best, not ace, but it has a great combo-points-behind-the-name bar display |
| 17:47.13 | kergoth | Industrial: now -thats- minimal |
| 17:47.33 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 17:48.20 | Industrial | Ill have to hack out the buttons on the minimap tho |
| 17:48.43 | Industrial | and add the actionbar page next ot the buttons |
| 17:48.57 | Industrial | (but dunno what that frame name is) |
| 17:49.46 | kergoth | Crispix: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_053.jpg |
| 17:49.59 | kergoth | Crispix: just went and attacked the first mob i saw. the combo points are next to the healthbars on the hud there |
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| 17:50.27 | Crispix | The yellow things are your combo points? |
| 17:50.33 | Crispix | oh wait |
| 17:50.36 | Crispix | the blue dots |
| 17:50.46 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:50.48 | Crispix | Thats.. really interesting o.O |
| 17:50.49 | Canislupus | wassup wow interface gods? |
| 17:50.49 | Industrial | and the scrolling text |
| 17:50.51 | Industrial | MSBT |
| 17:50.57 | Crispix | I hate SCT |
| 17:51.00 | Industrial | MSBT |
| 17:51.03 | Crispix | I have no idea why, but I do |
| 17:51.14 | Xuerian | Industrial: Nice, now you need to mod the default unitframe texture :p |
| 17:51.21 | Xuerian | & minimap ring. |
| 17:51.37 | Industrial | Xuerian: all I want is the N on it to be gone |
| 17:51.37 | Crispix | I really love your practically invisible map though |
| 17:51.57 | Industrial | Xuerian: and im still thinking about unitframes but thats a big job |
| 17:52.04 | Xuerian | Not really |
| 17:52.10 | Industrial | Is anyone here into 'twinking' ? |
| 17:52.14 | Xuerian | You could just desaturate them and draw something on there |
| 17:52.16 | kergoth | simpleminimap has an option to change the alpha when you're outdoors. i keep it very visible indoors and mostly invisible outdoors, works pretty well |
| 17:52.17 | Xuerian | XD |
| 17:52.19 | Industrial | making unitframes? yes thats a big job |
| 17:52.36 | Canislupus | anyone know a good add-in that measures the memory usage of other add ins |
| 17:52.38 | Xuerian | No... |
| 17:52.41 | Xuerian | I mean skinning the blizzard ones :p |
| 17:52.50 | Canislupus | tweeking, or twinking? |
| 17:53.50 | Canislupus | I am using 120 meg of interface memory in game, is that a lot? |
| 17:54.28 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 17:54.51 | Xuerian | GOOD LORD MAN WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU RUNNING?! |
| 17:54.55 | kergoth | hahah |
| 17:54.56 | Xuerian | Sorry. |
| 17:54.57 | kergoth | wow |
| 17:54.57 | Kirkburn|Vista | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:55.04 | Industrial | Canislupus: I use 12 |
| 17:55.07 | Industrial | 12MB |
| 17:55.12 | Canislupus | ZOMG |
| 17:55.12 | Kirkburn|Vista | In fact, I cannot imagine how one can reach 120 |
| 17:55.18 | Xuerian | I use 25 while fully raiding kitted! C'MON o_0 |
| 17:55.19 | kergoth | mine's up to around 29-33 at login |
| 17:55.26 | Canislupus | well something is eating it away |
| 17:55.35 | Canislupus | and i dont know whay |
| 17:55.36 | Industrial | Canislupus: first things first, dump all discord things |
| 17:55.38 | Kirkburn|Vista | I reached 60 in the heady days of un-optimised addons (all 120 of them) |
| 17:55.42 | Canislupus | what? |
| 17:55.44 | Industrial | and flexbar |
| 17:55.45 | Industrial | etc |
| 17:55.46 | Canislupus | srsly? |
| 17:55.54 | Industrial | likeyahtotwllywai |
| 17:55.56 | Canislupus | discord is a memory hog? |
| 17:55.59 | Industrial | lol |
| 17:56.02 | kergoth | he's got a point, discord stuff is pretty heavy, though its definately feature rich |
| 17:56.09 | Kirkburn|Vista | Step back guys ... 120 isn't bad *if it's not affecting the performance of the PC* |
| 17:56.16 | Industrial | Canislupus: pastey.net |
| 17:56.18 | Industrial | post a list of addons |
| 17:56.19 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:56.24 | Canislupus | got a good efficient replacement/ |
| 17:56.34 | Industrial | none that configurable |
| 17:56.42 | Canislupus | ok... incoming list (gimme a few min) |
| 17:57.05 | Canislupus | wait.. whats the clipboard website? |
| 17:57.26 | Industrial | pastey.net |
| 17:58.35 | Canislupus | yeah my discord stuff took me months to get the way i have it now |
| 17:59.55 | Industrial | Anyway |
| 17:59.58 | Industrial | is anyone here into twinking |
| 18:00.11 | Industrial | I wanna make some templates for classes ad certain levels |
| 18:00.22 | Industrial | thought it would be nice for on the wiki |
| 18:00.41 | Canislupus | http://pastey.net/1214 |
| 18:00.43 | Kirkburn|Vista | Canislupus, despite what the guys are saying here ... :) ... if it's not affecting the performance of WoW, don't worry about 120 being a lot |
| 18:00.56 | Canislupus | prepare to be blown away by the list |
| 18:01.20 | Canislupus | thanks i appreciate the advice |
| 18:01.27 | Kirkburn|Vista | I can only imagine 120 being due to something with a database like Gatherer - but blown up massively |
| 18:01.42 | Kirkburn|Vista | brb shopping |
| 18:01.45 | Canislupus | my gargage collections are quite rough though |
| 18:02.35 | Canislupus | wait... somethings wrong... thats the wrong list |
| 18:03.02 | Canislupus | i got rid of Titan bar |
| 18:03.29 | Industrial | well here goes, id dump all discord ct and titan things |
| 18:03.33 | Industrial | done |
| 18:03.34 | Industrial | :D |
| 18:03.44 | Industrial | and only use auctioneer on your AH char |
| 18:03.53 | Canislupus | i cant be without ctraid tho |
| 18:04.15 | Industrial | Im not into raiding but um.. oRa |
| 18:04.27 | Canislupus | hmm |
| 18:04.42 | Industrial | QuickLoot -> FruityLoots |
| 18:04.52 | Canislupus | i do love the convenience of my mods |
| 18:05.19 | Canislupus | somethings really eatin up the memory tho |
| 18:05.23 | Industrial | So noone here wants to help me make a twink profile? |
| 18:05.34 | Industrial | Canislupus: do you have a really large auctioneer database? |
| 18:06.59 | Cide | Industrial: ct stuff isn't memory heavy, try again |
| 18:07.11 | Industrial | Cide: =P |
| 18:07.29 | Canislupus | i am trying to go all Ace2 |
| 18:07.42 | Canislupus | eventually |
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| 18:11.42 | Canislupus | i have mobinfo2, itemsync and gatherer,and auctioneer |
| 18:12.31 | lacindas | those are all pretty database heavy addons |
| 18:12.32 | Cide | those are likely 50-80% of your memory usage right there |
| 18:12.40 | lacindas | what cide said lol |
| 18:12.51 | Canislupus | any way to reduce them without losing that convenience? |
| 18:13.19 | Cide | since the convenience = data, and data = memory, not really |
| 18:13.40 | Tuller | Cide: can you check on CT_Mail, I have reason to believe that it does stuff whenever you do anything to your inventory :) |
| 18:13.52 | Canislupus | lol... yeah guess i will go to newegg and order a couple of 1gig sticks |
| 18:14.03 | Cide | you could try alternatives that either store less data or in another format, but I've never used such addons so I can't name any |
| 18:14.19 | Cide | Tuller: could you be a bit more specific? that hardly helps |
| 18:14.25 | Canislupus | i would love some alternatives that run under Ace |
| 18:14.35 | Cide | okay, here's the deal |
| 18:14.38 | Cide | ace does not make tables smaller |
| 18:14.45 | Canislupus | so true |
| 18:15.07 | Canislupus | but it does streamline code correct? |
| 18:15.14 | Canislupus | well... sorta |
| 18:15.19 | kergoth | ace does not, no |
| 18:15.48 | kergoth | some of the developers that also happen to use ace, happen to focus on efficiency. one does not come from the other |
| 18:15.51 | Plorkyeran | It mostly just encourages better design |
| 18:16.05 | kergoth | there are numerous addons which are efficient and do not use ace, and there are addons that use ace and arent all that efficient |
| 18:16.45 | Plorkyeran | Just using ace can occasionally help things if it has a library that does something you're doing, but better |
| 18:16.58 | Cide | yup |
| 18:17.06 | Canislupus | and doesnt it reduce OnEvent calls? |
| 18:17.15 | Plorkyeran | Not by itself |
| 18:17.24 | Cide | it reduces the amount of calls to frames that register OnEvent |
| 18:17.53 | Cide | but all it does is reinvent the wheel by applying an event dispatcher over an already existing one (the game's) |
| 18:18.14 | Cide | and yes, it does implement a few things such as custom events, but that's irrelevant when it comes to OnEvent calls, as in this case |
| 18:18.38 | Canislupus | btw i love ctmod, cide |
| 18:18.48 | kergoth | having to create a frame just to get at the blizzard event dispatcher is lame |
| 18:18.56 | Cide | kergoth: I agree |
| 18:19.08 | Canislupus | any plans to go further with ctraid tracker? |
| 18:19.13 | Cide | eventually |
| 18:19.29 | Cide | but in most cases it's not that bad, since most addons that need it also need a frame, which can handle it anyway |
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| 18:24.11 | ComicSansMS | question: if i do something like http://wowi.pastey.net/1215, it will create a new string each time the ..-operator is executed in the for-loop? |
| 18:24.40 | kergoth | ComicSansMS: yes |
| 18:24.49 | Cide | it will create a new string object if the new string isn't found |
| 18:25.23 | Canislupus | my auctioneer database is 8mb in my wtf folder |
| 18:25.27 | Canislupus | is that big? |
| 18:25.49 | Kirkburn|Vista | One day we should all name ourselves things like TimesNewRoman, Georgia, TwCenMS to weird ComicSansMS out :P |
| 18:26.00 | Cide | yes, that's quite big |
| 18:26.07 | Cide | disable it and check your memory usage difference |
| 18:26.07 | axxo | not really |
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| 18:26.12 | ComicSansMS | kirkburn :P |
| 18:26.19 | Cide | axxo: yes, that's quite big |
| 18:26.32 | Canislupus | kthx |
| 18:26.40 | axxo | but its normal for auctioneer db to grow that big |
| 18:26.53 | ComicSansMS | this problem is really getting me. i managed to write a more memory efficient version of the function, but it doesn't seem to be very elegant... |
| 18:27.02 | Canislupus | i wanna be WingDings |
| 18:27.27 | ComicSansMS | http://wowi.pastey.net/1216 |
| 18:27.38 | ComicSansMS | any ideas? |
| 18:27.52 | Cide | axxo: relatively speaking it might not be that big *for an auctioneer database*, but does by no means make it a small chunk of memory |
| 18:28.19 | Cide | ComicSansMS: how often are you running this? |
| 18:28.33 | Cide | and how different are the strings you're running it on? |
| 18:28.39 | Cide | and how long are they? |
| 18:28.44 | Cide | (well, tables) |
| 18:29.04 | ComicSansMS | different. string lenghtes vary between a 5 and over 3000 chars |
| 18:29.13 | Cide | and how often is it run? |
| 18:29.32 | ComicSansMS | not that often. it's not really time critical or anything |
| 18:29.50 | Cide | on user's initiative? |
| 18:29.54 | ComicSansMS | yup |
| 18:30.00 | Cide | then don't bother about the small chunk of memory the strings take up |
| 18:31.02 | Canislupus | so i would assume an 8MB database=8MB interface memory, is that correct? |
| 18:31.08 | Cide | Canislupus: no |
| 18:31.28 | Cide | first of all, the code is compiled, which makes it smaller |
| 18:31.50 | Canislupus | ok... cause that seemed like a small part of my 120 MB memory usage |
| 18:31.52 | Cide | and then when it's executed, lua constructs a bunch of tables |
| 18:32.03 | ComicSansMS | i mainly worried about the big strings. for a 3000 char string i would have to build around 4500000 temp strings. |
| 18:32.10 | Cide | where each entry is quite big |
| 18:32.34 | Canislupus | i just have a sinking feeling somethiing is building a table and filling it with looped garbage |
| 18:33.15 | Cide | ComicSansMS: I don't see how you get that number |
| 18:33.20 | Canislupus | my increasing rate in game now without auctioneer is 23.2 KiB/s |
| 18:33.39 | ComicSansMS | sry, i meant i would have to allocat strings for 4500000 characters in different strings ^^ |
| 18:34.27 | Cide | for 3k characters you'd end up with at most ~6k strings I'd say, and that is assuming that they don't already exist, which they very well might |
| 18:36.23 | Canislupus | Cide, i started at 80MB... now i am at 90 |
| 18:36.30 | Canislupus | without auctioneer... |
| 18:36.40 | Cide | Canislupus: then do a binary search |
| 18:36.58 | Canislupus | i think i be...... huh? (<----that guys a noob) |
| 18:37.22 | ComicSansMS | for a string of length n i'd have to do (n-1) concatenations. but when incrementally building the string like in the first function i'd have to save a total of (n*(n+1))/2 characters. which seems a lot |
| 18:37.43 | Cide | disable half of your addons, check. any better? enable half of the addons you disabled. still good? enable half of the still remaining disabled addons |
| 18:38.01 | Canislupus | OH... ok yeah got it now |
| 18:38.13 | Canislupus | thanks for toleraing me 8-) |
| 18:38.18 | Cide | switch halves if it gets worse |
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| 18:42.38 | Tuller | Cide: mailmod uses around 6kb whenever I move an item in my inventory from one slot to another. I was hoping it could use a little less :) |
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| 18:42.59 | Cide | hm, interesting |
| 18:44.47 | Cide | I'll take a look sometime |
| 18:44.56 | Tuller | thanks |
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| 18:48.33 | Seracht | hey is the only combat log mod out there Nurfed combat log? |
| 18:48.49 | Canislupus | not even close |
| 18:49.14 | Canislupus | i use "simple combat log" i think its called |
| 18:52.45 | lacindas | i use scl as well, its nice, theres quite a few others as well |
| 18:52.53 | Seracht | ah ok |
| 18:53.00 | Seracht | cool |
| 18:53.04 | Seracht | I can get it from WoWI right? |
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| 18:53.38 | lacindas | i believe so |
| 18:53.48 | Cairenn | indeed: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5008-Simple_Combat_Log.html |
| 18:54.07 | lacindas | and there ya go ;) |
| 18:54.11 | Seracht | thanks |
| 18:55.30 | Cairenn | welcome |
| 18:55.53 | Seracht | all that's left is SWstats + unitframes |
| 18:56.04 | Seracht | is wowace's svn working now? |
| 18:56.36 | lacindas | theres a mirror of the .zip's yes |
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| 18:57.01 | paulharman | hi |
| 18:57.05 | Cairenn | hi |
| 18:57.08 | lacindas | hiya |
| 18:57.14 | Seracht | lacindas so where do I get ag_unitframes then? |
| 18:57.25 | Cairenn | ace |
| 18:57.31 | Cairenn | I believe |
| 18:57.33 | Seracht | site is going so slow :( |
| 18:57.39 | lacindas | http://www.wowace.com/files/ |
| 18:57.47 | paulharman | any idea how i can get item details from an item currently held by the cursor? |
| 18:58.25 | paulharman | been looking through the auction house code but no luck |
| 18:58.41 | THUNDER_CHILD | held or held over? |
| 18:58.47 | paulharman | held |
| 18:59.19 | THUNDER_CHILD | nope not a clue |
| 18:59.22 | paulharman | i am trying to reproduce what happens when you drop an item into the auction 'slot' in the auction house |
| 19:00.05 | THUNDER_CHILD | but your no longer holding it at that time |
| 19:00.24 | ComicSansMS | i just made some quick tests with the conversion functions from above. on a 3400 char string the first allocates 914 kb of memory, while the second only uses 57kb |
| 19:00.30 | paulharman | yeah i was kinda hoping that it could be done with an OnMouseDown event |
| 19:00.36 | Cide | ComicSansMS: and in speed? |
| 19:01.01 | Cide | though that's a quite nice change |
| 19:01.34 | ComicSansMS | it is... i didn't test speed, but as mentioned, it's not really time critical and none of them seemed to be overly slow |
| 19:01.44 | Kirov | paulharman - what exactly are you trying to do/ |
| 19:01.49 | Cide | ComicSansMS: try this |
| 19:02.28 | Cide | function ASCII2String(t) return string.char(unpack(t)); end |
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| 19:02.57 | ComicSansMS | i'll try that, sec |
| 19:02.58 | paulharman | i want to be able to drop an item onto a button and read the data about the item (for example grab the texture name and show it on the button) |
| 19:03.46 | paulharman | all i can find on wowwiki is CursorHasItem()...there doesn't seem to be GetCursorItem() or something similar :) |
| 19:04.36 | Kirov | paulharman - there's no way to know what is actually on a cursor after it's been picked up. You have to hook the various pick up item functions and keep track of what the cursor is holding at the time it's being picked up. |
| 19:04.52 | Cide | (read: PITA) |
| 19:04.59 | paulharman | :) |
| 19:05.18 | THUNDER_CHILD | wouldnt it be easier to simply pass your curser over what you want to pick up the data? |
| 19:05.27 | paulharman | yeah that makes sense |
| 19:05.34 | THUNDER_CHILD | namely a basterdies version of DFM's frame finder |
| 19:05.50 | THUNDER_CHILD | <-- cant spell worth shit |
| 19:06.44 | ComicSansMS | "stack overflow table too big to unpack" ^^ |
| 19:06.55 | Cide | haha, okay |
| 19:07.23 | ComicSansMS | nice idea, though, i didn't even think of that |
| 19:08.34 | Seracht | quick question |
| 19:08.45 | Seracht | latest version of ag_UnitFrames = 12395? |
| 19:09.05 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.11 | Cide | I believe you'd be better of consulsting various sites for that information |
| 19:09.20 | Cide | s/of /off / |
| 19:09.57 | Cairenn | if you got it from the ace download then it's probably the most recent |
| 19:10.19 | Cairenn | but Cide's right, only way to know for sure is to check the site |
| 19:10.35 | Cairenn | &/or try to catch the author around and ask directly ;) |
| 19:11.12 | Kirov | paulharman - http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3242-1-simple-action-sets.html - check out the SimpleActionSets_Hooks.lua |
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| 19:14.13 | lacindas | 12395 yes |
| 19:14.21 | lacindas | @seracht |
| 19:15.31 | paulharman | thanks Kirov |
| 19:16.04 | Kirov | ! |
| 19:16.47 | Cairenn | you guys really have made this channel everything I hoped it would be when I started it :) |
| 19:17.53 | Cairenn | and I don't think people say "thank you" enough for everything you guys do |
| 19:18.10 | Kirov | Cairenn must be having a good day |
| 19:18.25 | Cairenn | no more or less so than any other random day |
| 19:18.36 | Cairenn | just it should be said sometimes |
| 19:18.43 | Cairenn | *should* be said more often than it is |
| 19:19.01 | Seracht | thanks lacindas |
| 19:21.02 | Seracht | oh, and what damage meters can you recommend? |
| 19:21.08 | lacindas | none :) |
| 19:21.12 | Seracht | I am leaning towards SWStats but un sure |
| 19:21.18 | Seracht | :( I just want to use it as I am leveling my warrior |
| 19:21.21 | lacindas | depends, you want full group or personal stats? |
| 19:21.31 | Seracht | um full group will be nice |
| 19:21.40 | Seracht | its basically to stop warriors in groups from 'dps tanking' |
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| 19:22.03 | Cide | Cairenn: it's okay, just make sure the monthly checks roll in punctually |
| 19:22.09 | Cide | mt |
| 19:22.12 | Cairenn | Cide: ;) |
| 19:22.15 | lacindas | sw_stats is the best group dmg meters imho, personally, i use KombatStats for my personal stuff |
| 19:22.48 | lacindas | im curious to see how the new version of sw preforms tho, the old one was a bit of a resource hog on raids |
| 19:23.34 | Seracht | mmmm ok |
| 19:23.35 | Seracht | cool thanks |
| 19:23.46 | Seracht | I think I got all the mods I need |
| 19:24.01 | lacindas | np, happy to help :) |
| 19:24.07 | Seracht | ag_unitframes, bongos, ecastingbar, cirk's chat manager, simple combat log |
| 19:24.11 | Seracht | see anything I am missing? |
| 19:24.22 | lacindas | check that, ag_uf is now at 12408 ;) |
| 19:24.38 | lacindas | drop ecb and get otravi's |
| 19:24.41 | Seracht | lol |
| 19:24.43 | Seracht | wtf |
| 19:24.47 | Seracht | I just downloaded it |
| 19:24.49 | Seracht | and it was 12935 |
| 19:24.54 | Seracht | 12395 |
| 19:25.00 | lacindas | yah new commit about 30secs ago ;) |
| 19:25.20 | Seracht | otravi? |
| 19:25.29 | lacindas | otravii_castingbar |
| 19:25.29 | Seracht | not on wowI I think, just did a search |
| 19:25.37 | lacindas | its on the ace svn |
| 19:25.45 | Seracht | oh ok |
| 19:26.01 | lacindas | actually, 1 sec |
| 19:26.04 | Seracht | ok |
| 19:26.13 | Seracht | is it automatically updated on the wowace.com/files? |
| 19:26.31 | Seracht | I do not really wnat to install SVN, trying to keep the computer as format fresh as possible |
| 19:27.04 | lacindas | any time a new commit is done to a mod, the .zip on that page is updated |
| 19:27.12 | lacindas | so you dont need svn anymore |
| 19:27.13 | Seracht | ok cool, got ag and otravi |
| 19:27.18 | lacindas | just that link |
| 19:27.23 | Seracht | excellent |
| 19:27.48 | lacindas | ild recommand checkin out the prat chat modules as well (not sure what you do with or use cirk's for) |
| 19:27.48 | Seracht | thank you |
| 19:28.20 | Seracht | I only need to remove the buttons |
| 19:28.21 | Seracht | thats all |
| 19:28.47 | lacindas | oh, get Prat_buttons then, thats all it does |
| 19:29.06 | lacindas | tho you might want prat_scroll also ;) |
| 19:29.17 | Seracht | is prat WoWAce2 as well? |
| 19:29.31 | lacindas | prat is ace2 yes |
| 19:29.52 | lacindas | you'll need the "Prat" core, then any modules yould like |
| 19:30.28 | Seracht | ok cool |
| 19:30.57 | lacindas | =) |
| 19:31.45 | Seracht | anything else? heh |
| 19:32.54 | lacindas | hr, such as? category etc |
| 19:32.57 | lacindas | *hrm |
| 19:33.13 | Seracht | Any other mandatory mods I guess :s |
| 19:33.19 | Seracht | I dont think I need anything else |
| 19:33.27 | Seracht | still leveling, so no use for perfect raid etc |
| 19:33.30 | lacindas | lol define mandatory (i have like 200+ addons lol) |
| 19:33.55 | Seracht | well my mandatory is normally: Bongos |
| 19:33.58 | Seracht | thats it really |
| 19:34.02 | Seracht | ECB for nice casting bar |
| 19:34.05 | Cairenn | and I have <50 that I use (on a regular basis) |
| 19:34.19 | Seracht | how much memory do you ugys use normally |
| 19:34.21 | Seracht | on the addons only |
| 19:34.29 | Cide | addons only? ~10-15mb |
| 19:34.32 | lacindas | yeah i think of my gosh-knows-how-many, i only use a few constantly |
| 19:34.47 | Seracht | :s |
| 19:34.52 | Seracht | 10-15 with 50 addons? |
| 19:35.00 | Seracht | I was using 12 with chat manager, bongos and ECB |
| 19:35.17 | Cide | 10-15 with ~25 addons maybe |
| 19:35.25 | Seracht | :O |
| 19:35.45 | Seracht | the stats bar in bongos that lists memory or osmething that is just addons right? |
| 19:36.11 | lacindas | i believe so, i dont use that one, i use the fubar plugin |
| 19:36.13 | Tuller | gcinfo() /1000 |
| 19:36.40 | lacindas | btw <3 bongos Tuller ;) |
| 19:36.50 | Tuller | thanks |
| 19:37.21 | lacindas | the new scripting stuff is sweet, i havent even started playing with it, so many ideas lol |
| 19:38.13 | Tuller | now only if normal people could use it :) |
| 19:38.41 | lacindas | oh, im normal lol |
| 19:38.59 | lacindas | my attempt at an addon last night spit 100+ errors rofl |
| 19:39.22 | lacindas | 1st part worked like a charm, part 2, WoW exploded lol |
| 19:41.54 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:41.57 | Seracht | yes <3 bongos |
| 19:42.51 | lacindas | lol nev, wanna check the code see if you can figure out what i nuked? haha |
| 19:44.58 | Tuller | the worst thing I've ever done is 132'd wow with old sticky code |
| 19:45.38 | lacindas | hehe |
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| 19:46.06 | ComicSansMS | 132? |
| 19:46.23 | Tuller | crashed |
| 19:46.56 | lacindas | hehe i thought i crashed it last night, just immense lag from all the errors lol |
| 19:47.01 | ComicSansMS | i never heard that term, where does it come from? |
| 19:47.15 | Tuller | its one of the error codes that wow has when it crashes |
| 19:47.25 | Tuller | might be 142 |
| 19:47.45 | ComicSansMS | ah, i see.. |
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| 19:54.14 | Tuller | I think its frame:GetPoint(num) that caused it |
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| 20:27.46 | Crispix | Can someone help me for a sec? |
| 20:27.55 | Guillotine | we can try :) |
| 20:28.01 | Crispix | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Xehirut/whatplugin.jpg |
| 20:28.05 | Crispix | What plug in is that? |
| 20:28.20 | Industrial | plugin of what |
| 20:28.22 | Industrial | lmao |
| 20:28.30 | Crispix | err addon |
| 20:28.30 | Guillotine | could be one of many things |
| 20:28.31 | Crispix | sorry |
| 20:28.32 | deci | critline is the crit addon isnt it? |
| 20:28.37 | Guillotine | some sort of high score thing |
| 20:28.43 | Guillotine | could be crit line |
| 20:28.43 | Industrial | theres a crit fubar addon too |
| 20:28.49 | Guillotine | ya, I use the fubar one |
| 20:29.46 | Kirov | zomg! 55! |
| 20:30.04 | lacindas | critline, topscoreFu, uhm, any other ones? |
| 20:30.37 | Crispix | Looks like its fubar topscore |
| 20:30.47 | Crispix | Thanks :D |
| 20:31.04 | Crispix | Now I need to figure out what addon is making my rogue combo points look like Cartoon 'Pow Biff' marks |
| 20:31.33 | lacindas | oh i saw that one on curse, its got crit in the title but i dont recall the full name |
| 20:32.00 | Crispix | Critcombo? |
| 20:32.15 | lacindas | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4120-1-lazysumos-critman-11a.html ? |
| 20:32.26 | Crispix | er |
| 20:32.31 | Crispix | I'll take a pic of it :) |
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| 20:40.36 | Crispix | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Xehirut/wtf-1.jpg |
| 20:40.36 | Crispix | see? |
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| 20:43.03 | Crispix_ | o.O |
| 20:43.42 | Kirov | ... |
| 20:44.00 | Crispix_ | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Xehirut/wtf-1.jpg Kirov.. you wouldn't know what addon that is .. would you? |
| 20:44.03 | Crispix_ | The combo counter? |
| 20:44.36 | Kirov | I've seen it before, but I don't know where |
| 20:53.09 | Crispix_ | o.O |
| 20:53.20 | Crispix_ | I can't figure out what addon this is and I've gone through the list |
| 20:53.34 | lacindas | heh i just searched WoWI, curse and worldofwar and none of them have anything like that |
| 20:56.17 | Industrial | Its not really needed anyway |
| 20:56.19 | Industrial | useless |
| 20:56.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:56.30 | Industrial | NEXT |
| 20:56.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:57.22 | jaxdahl | FYI, don't try to use the paid character transfer service right now.. it's breaking on the payment step and people are getting $1 charges every time they try |
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| 20:57.46 | jaxdahl | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=29923815&pageNo=1&sid=1#16 |
| 20:59.06 | lacindas | lol Id |
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| 21:08.00 | Plorkyeran | Isn't that Bartender2 with the circle layout? |
| 21:15.54 | Hexarobee | any java coders here? trying to draw some lines using swing but i cant remeber how, all the stuff im finding is for awt not swing |
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| 21:19.13 | Kirov | no Iriel, eh? |
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| 21:24.43 | jaxdahl | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/30024134.htm |
| 21:24.49 | jaxdahl | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/20224718.htm |
| 21:28.03 | jaxdahl | ^^ news from slouken |
| 21:28.08 | jaxdahl | on SPELLEVENT_* |
| 21:28.15 | jaxdahl | and self-cast stuff |
| 21:29.14 | nevcairiel | slouken is mean with all his teasers. |
| 21:29.19 | nevcairiel | but, good news |
| 21:37.58 | Industrial | lol |
| 21:38.03 | Industrial | i just made a unitframe |
| 21:38.18 | lacindas | screenshots! ;P |
| 21:38.19 | Industrial | without a bar, only a frame that gets set to the height percent |
| 21:38.26 | Industrial | but its vertical |
| 21:38.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:38.27 | deci | like the one in your photoshopped pic? |
| 21:38.34 | Industrial | beginning of that |
| 21:38.35 | Industrial | :D |
| 21:38.37 | deci | nice :) |
| 21:40.52 | Industrial | http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/981/wowscrnshot093006233955yu1.jpg |
| 21:41.00 | Industrial | very crude and it uses an OnUpdate now |
| 21:41.11 | Industrial | but at least ot works |
| 21:41.19 | Industrial | (zomg look at the chat bottomleft) |
| 21:41.45 | deci | nice :P |
| 21:41.54 | deci | im right under 20mb |
| 21:41.55 | deci | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/UIneweste02.jpg |
| 21:41.56 | deci | lol |
| 21:43.09 | lacindas | nice layout deci |
| 21:43.53 | deci | thanks |
| 21:44.19 | Industrial | shamiggles |
| 21:44.19 | Industrial | lol |
| 21:49.43 | Industrial | http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/855/wowscrnshot093006234835fn0.jpg |
| 21:49.44 | Industrial | collarz! |
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| 22:13.20 | Industrial | http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/5956/wowscrnshot100106001106cf1.jpg |
| 22:13.21 | Industrial | bordarz! |
| 22:15.11 | Kirochi | kranal fiss |
| 22:15.30 | Kirochi | fr **** kiss |
| 22:17.30 | Tuller | stupid thing, why dont we put cooldown count on buff icons? |
| 22:22.25 | Industrial | we do |
| 22:22.29 | Industrial | its called !OmniCC |
| 22:22.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:22.57 | Tuller | no player buffs, and yes I know that they have text below them :) |
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| 22:30.09 | Rozr | Anyone know of a mod for a raid/party leader that displays which raid/party member is able to loot a corpse (obvously on group loot) |
| 22:32.38 | MentalPower | Rozr: that info is not available to the UI |
| 22:32.49 | Rozr | you sure? |
| 22:32.53 | Rozr | :( |
| 22:32.57 | MentalPower | you can guesstimate, but it will be iffy |
| 22:33.05 | Rozr | what do you mean by guesstimate? |
| 22:33.21 | zenzelezz | guess + estimate... guesstimate |
| 22:33.46 | Rozr | I realie that |
| 22:34.02 | Rozr | but Im not sure how he was intending that to be used n this case |
| 22:34.23 | MentalPower | Group Loot is round robin, you if you figure out the order you can predict who's up for looting |
| 22:34.43 | MentalPower | but if people don't loot in order then your guesses will be off |
| 22:34.59 | MentalPower | (very common that people loot off-order) |
| 22:37.41 | Rozr | why is there an option for round robin if its the same as group loot? |
| 22:39.16 | nevcairiel | round robin is for all items |
| 22:39.21 | nevcairiel | group loot you roll for certain items |
| 22:41.44 | Rozr | ah |
| 22:42.06 | Rozr | okay hm that might work |
| 22:42.25 | Rozr | and you obviously mean by doing this I'd haveta parse the chatlog? |
| 22:42.41 | Rozr | or is there an easier way to know who loots from a corpse |
| 22:42.44 | Rozr | err looted* |
| 22:42.49 | zenzelezz | so "Round Robin" is group loot without rolls for items of <loot theshold>+? |
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| 22:44.51 | nevcairiel | basicly |
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| 23:48.58 | nevcairiel | Is there anyway to detect the so-called passive buffs ? like a set bonus, or enchants ? |
| 23:53.14 | zenzelezz | I thought "passive" buffs were stuff like the Argent Dawn commision thing |
| 23:54.02 | nevcairiel | no idea what to really call it, thats why i explained :D |
| 23:54.16 | nevcairiel | thott somehow lists them in their db |
| 23:54.23 | nevcairiel | so somehow you can get to them |
| 23:54.57 | zenzelezz | well, my knowledge of such things is utterly scarce, so I'm not really the person to listen to :) |
| 23:55.13 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 23:57.42 | nevcairiel | guess i have to scan the worn items if we have a set bonus there :/ |
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| 23:59.43 | JoshBork1 | hi |
