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| 00:41.22 | fatbrain | Anyone using wowbench? |
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| 00:44.11 | Kirkburn | Hehe, a really cool short film: http://www.pyrats.net/watch-movie.html |
| 00:46.44 | fatbrain | hehe |
| 00:46.48 | fatbrain | too bad I dont have any sound |
| 00:47.16 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 00:48.05 | fatbrain | think firefox tries to output sound on the oss device, sucks |
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| 00:55.31 | Qzot | Someone seen side? |
| 00:55.41 | Qzot | Comeone ceen cide? |
| 00:55.47 | Qzot | Scomeone scene scide? |
| 00:55.55 | zenzelezz | ~seen cide |
| 00:56.19 | purl | cide <i=Cide@81-226-233-5-no60.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 13h 9m 44s ago, saying: 'or move it to a separate statement (i is not incremented at evaluation)'. |
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| 00:56.19 | Qzot | Sorry. I love nonzenze. |
| 00:56.43 | Qzot | Oooo. Yet another lesson for the IRC n00b. |
| 00:57.05 | kergoth | fatbrain: use aoss then |
| 00:58.03 | fatbrain | kergoth: made the user-agent dodgy |
| 00:58.43 | Iriel | I'm using float in a sense that implies I have little control over how fast I get there |
| 00:58.56 | Iriel | Due to the afforementioned traffic |
| 00:59.13 | Qzot | Gah. |
| 00:59.29 | Iriel | Doesn't look too bad this evening tho |
| 00:59.34 | Iriel | so there's hope for me |
| 00:59.41 | Qzot | Cide the main CTRA dev? |
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| 01:12.59 | Kirkburn | Pretty much, afaik |
| 01:16.05 | jaxdahl | cide has his own irc channel now |
| 01:16.42 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 01:16.54 | jaxdahl | nvm, was thinking of someone/thing else |
| 01:17.14 | jaxdahl | he is associated with CT strongly, yes |
| 01:17.17 | jaxdahl | but i don't know if he's the main dev |
| 01:17.29 | MentalPower | yes he's the main dev |
| 01:17.39 | MentalPower | CT == Cide & Ts |
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| 01:19.08 | GeoDaMancer | After a long time away, I have returned, and all may rejoice! |
| 01:19.18 | zenzelezz | do we know you? |
| 01:19.35 | GeoDaMancer | Heheheh, what's up? |
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| 01:22.13 | GeoDaMancer | 'Lo, neil. |
| 01:22.38 | neilmorrow | g'evening |
| 01:22.43 | Cairenn | heh, hey GeoDaMancer |
| 01:23.51 | GeoDaMancer | Hola Cairenn, anything of interest or import happen in the last few days? |
| 01:24.03 | AnduinLothar | so... i need a progress bar for bank/bag space... should i bother giving it a pretty border? |
| 01:24.15 | GeoDaMancer | Why would you? |
| 01:24.28 | AnduinLothar | for pretiness |
| 01:24.45 | GeoDaMancer | >.> Really? xD |
| 01:24.55 | AnduinLothar | i like borders |
| 01:25.05 | AnduinLothar | i just don't really feel like making my own atm |
| 01:25.11 | GeoDaMancer | Well, if juu want it... Oooh. xD |
| 01:25.18 | AnduinLothar | so... if oyu know of one used elsewhere.. |
| 01:25.24 | GeoDaMancer | Nope. |
| 01:25.27 | GeoDaMancer | Casting bar. xD |
| 01:25.33 | AnduinLothar | ew |
| 01:25.47 | AnduinLothar | maybe i can adapt the tooltip border |
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| 01:25.59 | GeoDaMancer | Heheheh... Borky! |
| 01:26.09 | JoshBorke | hello |
| 01:26.11 | JoshBorke | :) |
| 01:26.24 | Kirkburn | MentalPower, I feel silly now. I never connected Cide + TS = CT |
| 01:26.32 | AnduinLothar | owned |
| 01:26.43 | Kirkburn | <-- nubcake? |
| 01:26.54 | AnduinLothar | ^^ nubsauce |
| 01:27.22 | MentalPower | lol, well as consolation, I never connected it either. I also had to be told |
| 01:27.35 | MentalPower | by Cide himself non the less |
| 01:27.36 | AnduinLothar | ALL NUBS! |
| 01:27.44 | Kirkburn | Time to play Armadillo Run to console myself =) |
| 01:28.11 | GeoDaMancer | Arnadillo Run? |
| 01:28.21 | AnduinLothar | run from arnie? |
| 01:29.05 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 01:29.34 | GeoDaMancer | Which I can. ^.^ |
| 01:29.49 | Kirkburn | um, why? |
| 01:30.41 | GeoDaMancer | Because, I'm on very good pain meds. xD I have an absessed incizor, however you spell the blasted things, and the medical type peoples gave me something for the pain, while the peni-- I can't spell it -- Kills the stuff. xD |
| 01:31.05 | Cairenn | penicillin |
| 01:31.37 | GeoDaMancer | Thank you, Cairenn, yes, that. ^^; |
| 01:31.39 | zenzelezz | didn't read that sentence thoroughly at first and thought you meant a quite different peni- word o_O |
| 01:31.44 | zenzelezz | sentence took on a whole new meaning |
| 01:31.49 | GeoDaMancer | Hahahah! |
| 01:31.56 | Thrae | It's generally not a good idea to stop at peni-- when trying to spell penicillin... |
| 01:32.07 | Kirkburn | Penitence? |
| 01:32.16 | zenzelezz | you dull Brit |
| 01:32.19 | zenzelezz | a five-letter word |
| 01:32.22 | Thrae | Kirkburn: Holistic Medicine! |
| 01:32.30 | Kirkburn | Penit? |
| 01:32.33 | Hexarobi | garlic is an antibiotic |
| 01:32.39 | Thrae | ~dict penit |
| 01:32.42 | AnduinLothar | it's the first thing i blame when i'm sick... er |
| 01:32.54 | Thrae | Kirkburn: purl says you made that up ;) |
| 01:33.21 | zenzelezz | Kirk's just trying to make us think he doesn't have a dirty mind like everyone else |
| 01:33.55 | Xuerian | Haha, here's a new ad: "Buying gold is stupid. Learn how to make 50g in a hour in WoW" |
| 01:33.58 | Kirkburn | Well, I was gonna say Thrae was pretty close to two naughty words with his purl question :P |
| 01:34.21 | Kirkburn | And oddly enough, both meaning the same thing ... |
| 01:34.53 | Kirkburn | Yes, they both meant a rare african tree frog |
| 01:35.12 | Kirkburn | Xuerian, who was it an ad for?? |
| 01:37.14 | Xuerian | www.NetBunk.com/WarCraft.htm |
| 01:37.44 | Kirkburn | So a website that just tried to install something on my PC :/ |
| 01:38.49 | Xuerian | I've no doubt :P |
| 01:42.44 | warla | Cairenn checkout the enchanting now :-) http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=14 <-- |
| 01:48.15 | Cairenn | warla: looking good |
| 01:48.17 | Xuerian | Very nice |
| 01:50.03 | JoshBorke | warla: very nice |
| 01:53.39 | warla | thx :-) |
| 01:53.48 | warla | enchanting made me a lot headache heh |
| 01:53.57 | warla | imho blizzard did that tradeskill rather poor |
| 01:54.06 | warla | they could have sectioned it more |
| 01:54.10 | warla | like the other trades |
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| 01:55.52 | warla | also the craft functions on wowwiki look more like a beta version of a trade lol |
| 01:56.42 | warla | speaking of website that tries to install stuff... on my server we have a grave account hacking epidemy going on |
| 01:56.52 | warla | do you have same shit on your servers? |
| 01:57.04 | warla | seems like a website or something activeX related |
| 01:57.09 | warla | that installs keyloggers |
| 01:58.20 | Cairenn | folks have to learn to be careful =/ |
| 01:58.42 | fatbrain | folks will never learn to be careful. |
| 01:58.45 | fatbrain | sad but true. |
| 02:01.06 | fatbrain | warla: Is that something you'r writing now? |
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| 02:03.51 | Qzot | Anyone besides Cide familiar with CTRA's *cough* ability to track raid members during a raid? |
| 02:04.10 | GeoDaMancer | Nope, Q-zee. |
| 02:04.47 | fatbrain | Qzot: what do you mean by track raid members? |
| 02:04.50 | JoshBorke | what do you mean, track? |
| 02:04.54 | Qzot | I remember hearing someone asked how it did it, but that was before I knew my guild was having lots of problems with it. |
| 02:04.58 | JoshBorke | CTRA doesn't do that, CTRaidTracker does |
| 02:05.12 | Qzot | Sorry. That's what I meant. |
| 02:05.23 | Qzot | Is that also Cide's bailiwick? |
| 02:05.25 | zenzelezz | what does it do? |
| 02:05.36 | JoshBorke | everytime someone changes group it generates a leave/join |
| 02:05.38 | Qzot | Um. Gets it wrong for one. |
| 02:05.53 | kergoth | speaking of which, why is ct_raidtracker so -monstrous- ram wise, even without any data from raids? |
| 02:05.57 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:06.09 | Qzot | Our guild is using it to award dkp, and it includes people who aren't there, and misses people who are. |
| 02:07.11 | fatbrain | hrm, strange, have to investigate, we may experience the same problems since we'r also using it |
| 02:08.11 | Qzot | I was with the raid the entire MC run, but it only "saw" me there for 3 bosses in the middle. That's a hefty chunk of dkp missing. |
| 02:10.56 | fatbrain | Qzot: What version are you using? |
| 02:12.54 | Qzot | fatbrain: Don't know. It's not included in the addons I had the guild leader send me. |
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| 02:13.16 | Qzot | He usu keeps his addons pretty up-to-date, however. |
| 02:13.19 | grr | You know what's scary? |
| 02:13.37 | fatbrain | Panda bears? |
| 02:13.45 | grr | When you realize that one of your friends are a carbon copy of Kelso in That 70's Show, i mean _exact_ |
| 02:13.49 | grr | same apperanace, same IQ |
| 02:14.02 | fatbrain | same income? |
| 02:14.02 | zenzelezz | hm, never noticed the Sewer Beast rare in Stormwind before |
| 02:14.07 | fatbrain | if so, don't complain... moooooch!! |
| 02:14.12 | Qzot | ...and you start wondering which character *you* match... |
| 02:14.12 | grr | fatbrain: ;> |
| 02:14.25 | grr | Qzot: Well thing is he doesn't MATCH, he's a copy ;P |
| 02:15.25 | grr | it's scary now when I think of it |
| 02:15.27 | grr | realy scary |
| 02:15.54 | Qzot | fatbrain: You guys use ct raid tracker? |
| 02:16.34 | fatbrain | Qzot: yes |
| 02:16.56 | Qzot | And do you use eqDKP or something to post on a web site? |
| 02:17.11 | fatbrain | yes |
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| 02:17.51 | Qzot | Hmm. I suspect if you were having problems, *someone* would have complained about missing dkp. |
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| 02:18.23 | sodaking | is there a way to enable a newly unzipped addon without restarting wow? |
| 02:18.29 | Cairenn | no |
| 02:18.33 | Qzot | My GL says "1.25.12 modded". |
| 02:18.52 | fatbrain | sodaking: no, none that I know of anyway |
| 02:19.06 | fatbrain | sodaking: If you simply updates an addon you *could* do a /console reloadui |
| 02:19.12 | sodaking | cairenn r u the one who wrote a macro guide in the rogue forum? |
| 02:19.18 | Qzot | fatbrain: any idea what version you guys are using? |
| 02:19.37 | sodaking | fatbrain:ic |
| 02:19.56 | fatbrain | Qzot: no, think the newest one, 1.25 bleh something |
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| 02:29.09 | JoshBorke | wb iriel |
| 02:29.43 | Iriel | Thanks, evening. |
| 02:31.57 | zenzelezz | did they remove the median price thingie on Allakhazam? |
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| 03:13.05 | AnduinLothar | see... these poor status bars need borders: http://www.karlkfi.com/BankManagerAlpha.jpg |
| 03:13.48 | zenzelezz | they do look a bit vague/peculiar without them, yes |
| 03:14.14 | AnduinLothar | and i need a way to enter 'edit mode'.. think i should make that a checkbox? or a button that works liek a checkbox and stays highlighted.. |
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| 03:15.06 | Kirkburn | Haha, this video is great! It's a music video about the WC3 scenario, Defense of the Ancients (DotA) ... http://basshunter.m0o.eu/dota/index_en.php |
| 03:16.19 | Kirkburn | Apparently it's number two in Sweden atm? |
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| 03:17.26 | Miz11 | Is anyone familiar with the mod Squishy by Maia? |
| 03:17.41 | Xuerian | For a song with three lines, it's surprisingly long |
| 03:17.46 | Xuerian | Miz11: What about it? |
| 03:18.04 | Kirkburn | Xuerian, and I bet they've not got permission to use the Warcraft sound effects |
| 03:18.14 | Miz11 | the Interface\FrameXML\FloatingChatFrame.lua:476 error |
| 03:18.45 | Miz11 | i just installed squishy and I really like the feature set. Is there a fix for this? |
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| 03:19.13 | Miz11 | the wowace forum has a post that says "It's one of the new Ace2 revisions to AceComm that causes this error. Going back to an older one fixes this." |
| 03:19.31 | Miz11 | as the only solution. Does he mean older version of squishy or older version of acecomm? |
| 03:20.02 | Xuerian | I'm assuming AceComm, but the easiest way to do that would be back up to a older version of squishy supposing it was the most recent acecomm build-embedding addon you have |
| 03:20.34 | Miz11 | ok. Do you know off hand which is the last stable build of squishy? |
| 03:21.50 | Xuerian | ehm. |
| 03:22.06 | Xuerian | What were we talkinga bout again? |
| 03:23.02 | Miz11 | ok, the last squishy revision which didn't give the floatingchatframe error. |
| 03:23.56 | Xuerian | Heh :P I'd just try backing up a few revisions here: http://matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/Squishy/ ... try one from the 23'd or so |
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| 03:25.18 | Miz11 | thanks. I'll give this a try. |
| 03:28.55 | Kirkburn | Patch day tomorrow, it appears |
| 03:29.45 | Xuerian | Urk. |
| 03:34.00 | Miz11 | Xuerian: the problem persists through all the versions on the site you linked. |
| 03:35.12 | Miz11 | unfortunately :/ |
| 03:36.41 | Xuerian | hm |
| 03:37.00 | Xuerian | What other ace mods have you updated recently? If another one is loading acecomm the same issue will persist |
| 03:37.21 | Miz11 | its only squishy giving the problem. I've disabled them all individually |
| 03:37.46 | Miz11 | but i got perl unitframes, fubar, detox today |
| 03:39.45 | Xuerian | Well, I can send you the revision I have (10'th), but unless wowace.com has propogated for you I can't link a older one :P |
| 03:40.05 | Miz11 | ah, is that why I'm getting 403s? |
| 03:40.37 | Xuerian | Yeah, we just switched servers |
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| 03:48.28 | Miz11 | heh |
| 03:49.20 | Xuerian | I can DCC it to you, otherwise waiting is fun :P |
| 03:50.44 | Miz11 | sure, send it |
| 03:50.57 | Miz11 | but I got an unable to connect error. |
| 03:51.12 | Xuerian | Yeah, might not work... mneh, one second |
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| 04:31.55 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Flight_Form could use some fleshign out |
| 04:35.36 | abug | as in leaked info from F&F Alpha? |
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| 04:40.00 | Plorkyeran | Seeing "Note: please do not post images from the BC alpha" right next to an alpha shot is amusing... |
| 04:40.50 | abug | ah that one came from blizzard's page thoug |
| 04:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap a Plorkyeran |
| 04:41.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart Plorkyeran |
| 04:41.52 | abug | ~help |
| 04:42.07 | abug | ~eat abug |
| 04:42.08 | purl | ACTION eats abug and falls over dead |
| 04:42.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ~eat a bug |
| 04:42.20 | purl | ACTION eats a bug and falls over dead |
| 04:50.56 | abug | ~greet abug |
| 04:50.59 | purl | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on abug |
| 04:51.27 | zenzelezz | ~whaleslap abug |
| 04:51.28 | purl | ACTION beats abug upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 04:52.45 | abug | ~puke zenzelezz |
| 04:52.59 | abug | ~bonk zenzelezz |
| 04:53.00 | purl | ACTION bonks zenzelezz over the head |
| 04:55.17 | abug | ~wtf |
| 04:56.34 | abug | ~what is wowwiki |
| 04:56.36 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, abug |
| 04:56.49 | abug | ~what is wowinterface.com |
| 04:56.52 | purl | abug: I think you lost me on that one |
| 04:57.38 | abug | ~wowwiki is www.wowwiki.com |
| 04:57.40 | purl | okay, abug |
| 04:57.47 | abug | ~what is wowwiki |
| 04:57.49 | purl | abug: I think you lost me on that one |
| 04:57.54 | abug | ~wake up |
| 04:57.55 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 04:58.29 | abug | ~what is wowwiki? |
| 04:58.32 | purl | abug: I think you lost me on that one |
| 04:58.36 | abug | ~bad dog |
| 04:58.37 | purl | Bad dog, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 04:59.13 | abug | ~def wowwiki |
| 04:59.31 | abug | ~define wowwiki |
| 04:59.32 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 04:59.37 | abug | ~dict wowwiki |
| 04:59.53 | abug | ~define wowwiki www.wowwiki.com |
| 04:59.54 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
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| 05:00.07 | abug | ~dict wowwiki www.wowwiki.com |
| 05:00.15 | abug | ~diaf |
| 05:01.48 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:01.59 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 05:02.04 | abug | ello |
| 05:02.06 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
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| 05:04.37 | abug | zomg it's a cogwheel |
| 05:04.50 | cogwheel | zomg it's a bug? |
| 05:04.52 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 05:05.01 | abug | no wai! |
| 05:05.12 | cogwheel | just downed razor for the first time :) |
| 05:05.18 | abug | grats |
| 05:05.30 | abug | which strategy did your raid use? |
| 05:06.38 | abug | the killing or the kiting method? |
| 05:06.38 | cogwheel | umm... hunters kited dragons, warrs kited orcs. everyone else killed mages. then brought him to the corner and creamed him |
| 05:06.45 | abug | ah |
| 05:07.26 | cogwheel | we've been getting to phase to pretty regularly for the last few weeks but never had more than half our people standing 'till tonight |
| 05:07.53 | cogwheel | s/e to/e two/ |
| 05:07.56 | abug | did anyone run up and trigger the goblins early? |
| 05:08.15 | abug | I know I did that my first time |
| 05:08.16 | cogwheel | no... they made sure to announce it before we killed razor ID |
| 05:08.27 | cogwheel | s/I/X/ |
| 05:08.43 | cogwheel | ~lart cogwheel's typing skill |
| 05:09.35 | abug | s/I/X/ |
| 05:10.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | s/a/v/ |
| 05:10.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | :o |
| 05:10.45 | abug | I am to hungry. |
| 05:11.00 | abug | to/too |
| 05:11.08 | cogwheel | s/o/ooooooo/ |
| 05:11.12 | abug | s/e to/too |
| 05:11.35 | cogwheel | i am to hungry |
| 05:11.43 | cogwheel | s/o/oo/ |
| 05:12.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | seems like too much effort to remember syntax for purl than just to drag paste replace |
| 05:12.16 | abug | so it's s/<pattern>/<replacement>/ |
| 05:12.21 | abug | ? |
| 05:12.25 | krka | yes |
| 05:12.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | s/ /#/ |
| 05:12.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | darn |
| 05:12.50 | Cairenn|sleep | night folks |
| 05:12.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | guess it only replaces the first instance :[ |
| 05:12.58 | abug | good night sleepyhead |
| 05:12.59 | Mr_Rabies2 | night cair |
| 05:13.07 | krka | s/./$1$1/g |
| 05:13.08 | kergoth | Mr_Rabies2: many, many people already know the s/// syntax from vim, perl, sed, etc |
| 05:13.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm gonna pass out myself, i'm still borderline giddy from the drood changes |
| 05:13.27 | kergoth | google for info on regular expression based substitutions |
| 05:13.37 | Mr_Rabies2 | yeah i assumed it was from perl based on purl's name |
| 05:13.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | didn't know about the other stuff though |
| 05:13.49 | kergoth | purl is named that way because its the bot from #perl |
| 05:14.16 | kergoth | not because its written in perl, thats coincidental ;) |
| 05:14.16 | cogwheel | XD |
| 05:14.16 | abug | it's a lot different than lua's |
| 05:14.16 | cogwheel | look what i started |
| 05:14.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | programming takes more effort than i'm willing to put forth :x |
| 05:14.28 | abug | at least, WoW lua's |
| 05:14.33 | cogwheel | actually, purl's substitution is VERY limited |
| 05:14.48 | cogwheel | i think the only thing it can do are direct substitutions on the first occurence of the pattern |
| 05:14.55 | kergoth | lua's patterns are not regular expressions in the usual use of the term. they're patterns, yes, but thats it |
| 05:15.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | i can hack up other peoples' code sometimes, but that's about the extend of my coding prowess |
| 05:15.24 | Mr_Rabies2 | s/end/ent/ |
| 05:15.55 | cogwheel | gah... need to restart ff (hence chatzilla) bbl |
| 05:16.32 | abug | ~grease cogwheel |
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| 05:18.48 | abug | ~greet Abenadi |
| 05:18.49 | purl | ACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on Abenadi |
| 05:18.57 | Abenadi | hi guys : / |
| 05:19.08 | abug | Nuk'neh |
| 05:19.15 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 05:19.22 | Abenadi | can anyone tell me if I'm doing something wrong with this statement: |
| 05:19.23 | Abenadi | t:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\GraphicViolence\\images\\circlebg") |
| 05:19.29 | Abenadi | it keeps evaluating to nil, like it can't find the file |
| 05:20.09 | abug | ~wowwiki settexture |
| 05:20.26 | abug | ~you're no help |
| 05:20.43 | Plorkyeran | the wowwiki entry on settexture is awful |
| 05:21.06 | Abenadi | yeah I couldn't get much info there, I tried to find how other people had used it when setting it as a file and they seem to use the format above |
| 05:21.18 | Abenadi | It works fine when I pass it R,G,B but not when I use a file |
| 05:21.51 | Plorkyeran | Has the texture file existed since before you logged in? |
| 05:22.32 | Abenadi | that must be it. the answer is no, and when I changed to a file that did it works now |
| 05:22.37 | Abenadi | thanks |
| 05:22.52 | abug | +1 Plorkyeran |
| 05:24.28 | abug | ~cookie Plorkyeran |
| 05:24.38 | abug | ~jerk |
| 05:24.44 | purl | rumour has it, jerk is someone who needs something to do. |
| 05:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
| 05:29.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 69d /played |
| 05:29.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And I get my epic mount |
| 05:57.30 | abug | ~monkey |
| 05:57.34 | purl | This problem, like many others in the computer industry, can be solved by the application of monkeys. |
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| 06:06.47 | GeoDaMancer | I need some non-Wow geek type help, and since this is the highest concentration of geeks I know of... I just got Cable installed, and I'm using my desktop as the connection to let others onto the internet, but my connection seems to suffer. >.> IE- Jumping from a 130 latency to a 2300 latency with only another connection open... |
| 06:07.42 | GeoDaMancer | Is there anyway I can kill his connection slightly, or am I doomed, doomed! Doomed to high latency until he signs off? |
| 06:10.17 | abug | too many sleeping geeks |
| 06:10.46 | GeoDaMancer | Yes, too many. >.> |
| 06:13.52 | Shadowed | they aren't geeks if they're sleeping |
| 06:14.03 | GeoDaMancer | Good point, good point. |
| 06:15.33 | Kirov | GeoDaMancer - as far as you know, you just have to suffer it. |
| 06:15.45 | Kirov | go get yourself a router |
| 06:15.54 | GeoDaMancer | I have a router, but it's broked. |
| 06:16.04 | GeoDaMancer | Not Borked, which would make me laugh, but broked. |
| 06:17.39 | Kirov | bork bork bork! |
| 06:17.50 | GeoDaMancer | Ah, if I hook it up to a router, do I still have to use my computer as the primary connection? |
| 06:17.54 | GeoDaMancer | Bork is great. xD |
| 06:18.52 | Kirov | no |
| 06:19.03 | Kirov | and that was a sweedish chef reference |
| 06:19.48 | GeoDaMancer | Oh yeah. xD Sorry, my mind's half gone between pain, and the little happy men trying to chase it down. xD |
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| 06:48.59 | ckknight | ~emulate swedish chef |
| 06:49.05 | purl | Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! |
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| 06:58.36 | Corrodias | and our realm mercifully shuts down, after what i'd have to say is one of the most embarassing AV games i've been in. |
| 06:59.06 | Kirov | hmm... SetGradient is fun |
| 06:59.59 | Corrodias | the bad news about all these new abilities and spells is that i've already run out of action bar space |
| 07:00.34 | krka | use an action bar replacement that doesn't actually use slots |
| 07:00.43 | Corrodias | slots? |
| 07:00.55 | krka | you only have 120 actionbar slots to use |
| 07:01.01 | krka | i.e. IsAction(slotId) |
| 07:02.16 | Corrodias | well. i could. another issue is not having enough key combinations for everything, at least beyond what i can remember past a certain point |
| 07:03.49 | End | nooooes, my realm is down now |
| 07:03.59 | Corrodias | okay, WHAT THE HELL? "Fills the Paladin with the spirit of justice for 30 sec, giving each melee attack a chance to stun for 2 sec. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time." |
| 07:04.05 | Corrodias | like a ranged stun wasn't enough? |
| 07:06.06 | Corrodias | i hate paladins every second of the day |
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| 07:07.54 | Esamynn | ~comfort Corrodias |
| 07:07.58 | purl | There, there, Corrodias. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 07:08.03 | Corrodias | i hate them with every pixel of my UI |
| 07:09.05 | Esamynn | and then I'll hate the Blood Knights for how they got their power |
| 07:09.22 | Corrodias | i just hate blizzard for coming up with such a stupid excuse |
| 07:09.36 | Esamynn | actually, it fits the Blood Elves |
| 07:09.42 | Esamynn | i'm sorry to say it, but it does |
| 07:09.43 | Corrodias | anyway, i can't even get excited about the idea that it'll no longer be a question of balance, with paladins and shamans on both sides. i still hate them too much for that. |
| 07:10.17 | Corrodias | yes, it absolutely does. however, what i absolutely cannot understand is why the horde would allow the blood elves to band with them. i've heard the reasons and i'm not convinced. |
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| 07:11.31 | Corrodias | attacking a naaru like that is nigh on direct assistance to demons. they also are addicted to demonic magic, and would never do anything to harm their source of power. that certainly doesn't make them allies of the mortal races who do everything in their power to fight AGAINST the demons! |
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| 07:14.28 | Esamynn | Corrodias: yah, that part does ring a tad bit false |
| 07:15.03 | Corrodias | maybe they can refine it a bit before going retail |
| 07:16.44 | Corrodias | i had two one-on-one battles with other druids in that last AV, by the way. boy was that a sad sight. |
| 07:17.22 | Esamynn | I avoid battling other Druids, for role-playing reasons |
| 07:17.31 | Esamynn | whenever possible of course |
| 07:17.42 | Corrodias | we just couldn't kill each other. actually, during the second encounter, i may have won except that she managed to hide from sight and i couldn't find her again. |
| 07:17.55 | Esamynn | if a Horde druid insists on getting in my face, he's going to dislike the result |
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| 07:18.17 | Esamynn | or she for that matter |
| 07:19.04 | Corrodias | i'm still not sure how i'm MOST useful in battlegrounds. i have this terrible feeling that i'm most useful doing suicide runs on flags just so people will follow me and actually REACH the flag |
| 07:19.14 | Corrodias | battlegrounds -> AV, not the others |
| 07:19.44 | Corrodias | i far prefer to defend things |
| 07:20.25 | Esamynn | Druids are very good for defending, because we are like a force of nature, we just don't die easily |
| 07:20.39 | Corrodias | boy, i find that amusing |
| 07:20.49 | Corrodias | i'm pretty squishy, myself |
| 07:21.17 | Corrodias | a mage's frostbolt crit can easily drain over half my life |
| 07:21.46 | Esamynn | maybe it's because my spec is resto ;) |
| 07:22.14 | Corrodias | as is mine, but restoration doesn't include immunity to spells or other attacks |
| 07:22.30 | Corrodias | but then, my gear is almost all crap |
| 07:22.35 | Esamynn | no, but we can sure survive a hell of a lot of punishment |
| 07:22.59 | Corrodias | all i can say is that you must be playing a different kind of druid than the one i got... |
| 07:23.17 | Esamynn | you mean one decked out in AQ40/BWL epics? ;) |
| 07:23.23 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 07:23.56 | Corrodias | i don't think my guild even fights Hakkar, yet. i don't have that option. |
| 07:24.28 | Esamynn | I still wonder how I managed to get lucky enough to get into my guild, it really boggles my mind |
| 07:24.43 | Kirov | What guild is that? |
| 07:25.22 | Esamynn | Redemption on Dragonblight, I got in on the first kill of Lucifron back in June of 05 |
| 07:25.38 | Esamynn | great group of people |
| 07:25.48 | Corrodias | guild Fate, realm Eldre'Thalas. maybe they do take on Hakkar, actually, i just haven't attended such a session, yet. they have started working on AQ20, too. |
| 07:26.11 | Corrodias | i read your line before i read his, which is why i thought you were talking to me. never mind. |
| 07:26.31 | Kirov | Esamynn - how far are you guys? |
| 07:27.02 | Esamynn | lets see, we downed Grobbulus in Naxx Sunday night, just counting bosses here |
| 07:27.24 | Esamynn | Spider wing clear, Instructor Dead, Grob dead, Twin Emps dead |
| 07:27.38 | Kirov | No c'thun yet? |
| 07:27.49 | Esamynn | C'Thun trash cleared, haven't done much serious work on C'Thun |
| 07:28.06 | Kirov | Fun, but frustrating encounter. |
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| 07:28.13 | Esamynn | could nights of no serious consuable use |
| 07:28.17 | Esamynn | couple* |
| 07:28.27 | Kirov | Frustrating because it only takes one bit of bad luck, or one idiot to wipe the raid. |
| 07:28.41 | Esamynn | OMGZ, LAZER |
| 07:28.47 | Kirov | PEW PEW |
| 07:28.51 | Esamynn | best C'Thun movie ever |
| 07:29.09 | Esamynn | you know the one I mean ;) |
| 07:29.23 | Kirov | actually, no |
| 07:29.30 | zenzelezz | my guild is working on Naxxramas; got Razuvious/Anub'Rekhan/Faerlina down so far, reached Patchwerk... but those double-Stoneskin Gargoyles in the last wing defeat us :-| |
| 07:29.31 | Esamynn | oh god |
| 07:29.37 | Esamynn | let me find it, you have to see it |
| 07:30.11 | zenzelezz | hm, "C'thun survivor guide"? |
| 07:30.15 | Esamynn | zenzelezz: hehe, those double gargoyles are a pain, you HAVE to seperate them |
| 07:30.37 | Kirov | My old guild was the first to down Nefarian on the server, second to down C'Thun. Then imploded on itself just after getting down Instructor. |
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| 07:31.43 | Kirov | My new guild just downed Nefarian, and bug family. |
| 07:31.54 | Corrodias | boy, that's some luck for you, eh? |
| 07:31.55 | Kirov | It's a long long road back. |
| 07:32.19 | Esamynn | http://worldofwarcraft.filefront.com/file/A_Guide_to_CThun_Laser_Pew_Pew;58590 |
| 07:32.27 | Kirov | It's a guild my girlfriend started up after we left our old guild. |
| 07:32.53 | Esamynn | BEST.....C'THUN......MOVIE.........EVER!! |
| 07:33.33 | Esamynn | imploding guild, that can't be a fun experience |
| 07:33.55 | Kirov | heh |
| 07:34.27 | Esamynn | Kirov: is that not just the best? |
| 07:34.38 | Esamynn | the movie i mean |
| 07:35.40 | Esamynn | i crack up every time i watch it |
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| 07:37.37 | Kirov | brings back some baaad memories |
| 07:38.34 | Esamynn | oh come one, don't try to tell me that doesn't crack you up :P |
| 07:40.26 | Esamynn | how's this for a funny image |
| 07:41.07 | zenzelezz | after I got into a guild that did 20+ raids the first time, I started turning player names off during raids. After a while I stopped turning them back on afterwards... and the game looks so much cleaner without them :-o |
| 07:41.42 | Esamynn | officer places a bot directly in FRONT of that door way for the raid to repair at |
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| 07:41.49 | Esamynn | talk about an accident waiting to happen |
| 07:42.12 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 07:42.18 | Esamynn | zenzelezz: i setup an addon to toggle them on only when i'm pvp enabled |
| 07:42.20 | ckknight_ | zenzelezz, turn them off? |
| 07:42.28 | Corrodias | come to think of it... those player names probably aren't as important as i think |
| 07:42.28 | zenzelezz | I said I did |
| 07:43.13 | Esamynn | i couldn't stand that many names running around |
| 07:43.23 | zenzelezz | same |
| 07:43.34 | Esamynn | plus with them off, finding that one person you have targetted is *much* easier |
| 07:43.58 | zenzelezz | speaking of funny images, my guild had a laugh at this situation: http://home.samsen.com/zenzelezz/oops.jpg (in case it's not obvious, check the minimap) |
| 07:44.25 | Esamynn | oh and btw, no one made an oops with that repair bot, thankfully |
| 07:44.50 | Esamynn | zenzelezz: ROFLMAO |
| 07:44.55 | Esamynn | brilliant |
| 07:45.32 | zenzelezz | someone got disconnected when we tried Anub, but the servers were so lagged the fight was impossible, so we went to clear trash to Razuvious... then he logs back in... |
| 07:45.44 | Esamynn | hahaha |
| 07:45.51 | Esamynn | that's just totally brilliant |
| 07:45.56 | Corrodias | i don't get it |
| 07:46.10 | zenzelezz | the boss got pulled out of his room and to a totally different wing |
| 07:46.24 | jaxdahl | zenzelezz, when did this happen? |
| 07:46.29 | jaxdahl | anub normally leashes.. |
| 07:46.48 | zenzelezz | hm, two weeks ago, maybe three |
| 07:47.03 | zenzelezz | leashes how? |
| 07:47.13 | jaxdahl | he resets if you run out his room |
| 07:47.17 | jaxdahl | scarabs don't reset though |
| 07:47.32 | zenzelezz | oh, we weren't fighting him at all |
| 07:47.57 | zenzelezz | but someone who hadn't died, only got disconnected in his room, reconnected while we were in a different wing and aggroed him |
| 07:48.07 | jaxdahl | he reconnected within 15 minutes? |
| 07:48.19 | zenzelezz | can't remember how long it was |
| 07:48.56 | zenzelezz | the servers were f'cked bad at the time, we'd have people going on and off constantly in every fight (random people, not the same ones), and huge lag spikes |
| 07:49.16 | zenzelezz | took them nearly two weeks to find the faulty hardware so we could raid again |
| 07:49.43 | Esamynn | my server is down atm |
| 07:49.51 | Esamynn | NEW HARDWARE! ;) |
| 07:49.55 | Esamynn | but down until tomorrow |
| 07:49.59 | zenzelezz | careful about that |
| 07:50.12 | zenzelezz | those two horrible weeks we had were the result of the hardware upgrade |
| 07:51.14 | jaxdahl | you think that screen is small? |
| 07:51.20 | Corrodias | we were on the list to get a hardware upgrade before. we didn't. |
| 07:51.22 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/wow/naxx.png |
| 07:51.29 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/naxx/naxx.png rather? |
| 07:51.31 | Corrodias | wow, that 404 IS small |
| 07:51.35 | jaxdahl | 2nd link |
| 07:52.09 | Esamynn | jaxdahl: your screen is so damn full it feels small :P |
| 07:52.28 | Kirov | jaxdahl - you're missing Damage Meters and Recap |
| 07:52.38 | Corrodias | yeah, mine looks about like that... except i don't have my party frame showing while in a raid. |
| 07:52.38 | jaxdahl | why do i need damage meters? |
| 07:52.42 | jaxdahl | recap is there |
| 07:52.50 | Esamynn | jaxdahl: are you sure your unit frames couldn't be any bigger? |
| 07:53.02 | Kirov | oh, damn, you have dm and recap |
| 07:53.08 | jaxdahl | swstats > dm |
| 07:53.28 | jaxdahl | i've scaled it down a little since then, Esamynn |
| 07:54.15 | Esamynn | jaxdahl: heh, i start feeling crowded without a bigger area that i can use to "view the world" with, so to speak |
| 07:54.57 | jaxdahl | the middle area is plenty big enough |
| 07:55.26 | Esamynn | dang, no raid UI screen shots handy |
| 07:55.47 | jaxdahl | i moved my RABuffs window to the left side |
| 07:55.51 | Esamynn | yah, i suppose it might be on a screen that big |
| 07:56.03 | Esamynn | i'm on 1440x900 atm |
| 07:56.04 | jaxdahl | swstats is not as tall |
| 07:56.23 | jaxdahl | recap is over by fubar now |
| 07:56.36 | jaxdahl | party frames are about 60-75% the previous size |
| 07:57.00 | jaxdahl | vent/blessing buttons are to the left of holy wrath now |
| 07:57.28 | Corrodias | sniff sniff. those words smell of paladin. |
| 07:57.44 | Esamynn | Corrodias: sort of obvious from the screen shot :P |
| 07:58.40 | Esamynn | oh well, time to head home and find my bed |
| 07:59.17 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/naxx/gwf.png |
| 07:59.55 | Esamynn | that looks a lot better to me, just as a first impression |
| 08:01.23 | jaxdahl | 2 people alive at the end of that fight, heh |
| 08:02.03 | Corrodias | that action bar layout is so much more efficient.... |
| 08:02.48 | zenzelezz | we just downed Faerlina for the first time last night... had a bunch of attempts, started well (~25% two times), then somehow things went sour... until what was decided to be the last attempt, then suddenly people stopped dying and we got her down =) |
| 08:03.15 | Corrodias | i waste too much space on mine. and i need to assign control+numbers with all these new abilities, soon |
| 08:03.19 | jaxdahl | that fight can go bad in a hurry |
| 08:03.24 | Corrodias | but what's a good, efficient way to assign raid icons? >_< |
| 08:03.24 | Aenslaed | hey jax, which revision of squishy is that? |
| 08:03.34 | jaxdahl | i'm not sure |
| 08:03.38 | jaxdahl | i haven't updated in a little bit |
| 08:03.58 | Corrodias | i updated my squishy and suddenly i couldn't expand the "general" dropdown on the chat tab context menu. so i reverted. |
| 08:04.17 | Aenslaed | The latest versions I got were framexml erroring and the only working version I got, breaks needy list :/ |
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| 08:04.42 | jaxdahl | mine is dated 8/31 |
| 08:04.46 | Aenslaed | Corrodias: exactly. I couldn't drop down the channels for my chat |
| 08:04.52 | Corrodias | i don't know what needy list is, but you can try mine if you want. it just throws an error on load about an improper call to an update checking function, which you can comment out |
| 08:05.02 | Aenslaed | Ralak's Needy List |
| 08:05.16 | Corrodias | mine appear to be dated 8/26 |
| 08:05.43 | Corrodias | jaxdahl's is probably a better choice |
| 08:05.50 | Aenslaed | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1684-1-ralaks-needy-list.html |
| 08:06.38 | Aenslaed | http://aenslaed.mizery.net/ui.jpg Its the thing to the right of EM (bottom left) |
| 08:07.00 | ckknight | Corrodias, CorkFu as well. |
| 08:07.17 | Aenslaed | corkfu i have, I dont like it |
| 08:07.18 | Corrodias | what's that, again? |
| 08:07.24 | Aenslaed | its like needy list |
| 08:07.38 | jaxdahl | oh hey |
| 08:07.40 | Aenslaed | but its missing one feature |
| 08:07.40 | Corrodias | i'm quite satisfied with squishy & decursive |
| 08:07.40 | jaxdahl | you're in the same guild |
| 08:07.41 | jaxdahl | lol |
| 08:07.46 | Aenslaed | jaxdahl: not anymore |
| 08:07.50 | jaxdahl | yea |
| 08:07.53 | Aenslaed | i went to HC like 3 weeks ago |
| 08:08.05 | jaxdahl | you hear julline/reyner went to force? |
| 08:08.09 | Aenslaed | yeah |
| 08:08.16 | ckknight | Aenslaed, what feature? |
| 08:08.18 | Aenslaed | guild is hemorraging |
| 08:08.45 | Aenslaed | ckknight: with needy list, I can left click the buff icon to single, and right click to group buff. corkfu doesn't give that option |
| 08:08.56 | jaxdahl | Aenslaed, i use RABuffs |
| 08:08.58 | Aenslaed | cause I single buff if its just 1 guy |
| 08:09.11 | Aenslaed | and the innervate and battlerez buttons are amazing |
| 08:09.12 | jaxdahl | to watch buffs and cast 'em |
| 08:09.25 | Corrodias | i think i have raidbuff or something. i have no idea what it does. i need to read up on that. |
| 08:09.28 | Aenslaed | the ghost icons beside the 3 dead people are all clickable for brez |
| 08:09.44 | Aenslaed | and the innervate icon clickable too for innervates |
| 08:09.56 | Aenslaed | corkfu doesn't have that kind of functionality |
| 08:10.18 | jaxdahl | Clique sounds like it'd do well there though it wouldn't show icons |
| 08:10.32 | jaxdahl | ie, right click a dead person in the CTRA frames |
| 08:10.34 | jaxdahl | to brez |
| 08:10.48 | Aenslaed | been wanting to switch over to ora2 for a while now |
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| 08:11.10 | zenzelezz | I could never play a healer class or anything like that... not my sort of stress :-o Trying to keep things from hitting other people, that's my sort of fun \o/ |
| 08:11.29 | Aenslaed | its easier playing a healer than a warrior |
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| 08:11.36 | Corrodias | i love to heal, but it's very "busy" |
| 08:11.54 | Corrodias | not at all like playing my hunter, or going solo |
| 08:11.56 | zenzelezz | I don't know, I like to believe I do a decent job as a tank, but I'd make a horrible healer =) |
| 08:12.15 | Aenslaed | healing is all concentration but its really brainless |
| 08:12.47 | Corrodias | i dunno about that... mana management is a bitch |
| 08:12.57 | Corrodias | especially when healing in a group |
| 08:13.05 | Corrodias | i mean with other healers. |
| 08:14.17 | Aenslaed | mana management is not hard once you got the gear |
| 08:14.34 | Corrodias | i've got shit |
| 08:14.37 | Aenslaed | yeah |
| 08:14.41 | Aenslaed | there's a gear plateau |
| 08:15.12 | Corrodias | i spent 90% of the bloodlord fight out of mana, but it turns out it didn't matter at that point because one of the fantastic priests (on whom i did get to use innervate) was holding it up |
| 08:15.19 | Aenslaed | if i can rank 3 HT for 800hp roughly 130 casts in one mana bar when raid buffed, you can keep going for quite a while |
| 08:15.23 | Corrodias | i suck at not blowing all my mana too quickly. i really have to work on that. |
| 08:15.55 | Aenslaed | use low rank heals. |
| 08:16.52 | Corrodias | this is not a bad idea |
| 08:17.30 | Aenslaed | but yeah. kinda irritating not having needy list. |
| 08:18.44 | Corrodias | between decursive and perfectraid, i'm not sure i'd be missing much from a needy list except people who needed MotW or GotW refreshed. that's kind of annoying. |
| 08:19.30 | Aenslaed | it also displays debuffs so I dont need decursive or detox's windows open |
| 08:19.37 | Corrodias | ah |
| 08:19.39 | Corrodias | detox? |
| 08:19.48 | Aenslaed | ace2 version of decursive |
| 08:20.02 | Aenslaed | i'm giving it a test run now. Works ok so far. |
| 08:21.13 | [Ammo] | detox rocks :) |
| 08:21.44 | Aenslaed | i'm kind of confused with the filters. Some of the presets seem odd to me |
| 08:21.54 | [Ammo] | it's not really an ace2 version of decursive though, it's written from scratch |
| 08:22.01 | [Ammo] | but has the same functionality in the end |
| 08:22.22 | [Ammo] | you should be able to change the presets easily |
| 08:23.12 | Aenslaed | yeah. I just installed it today. Tested it on cthun nef heigan and jindo. Works well enough. |
| 08:23.41 | Aenslaed | squishy i'm noticing alot of problems. Its hard to top people off because it favors warriors so heavily |
| 08:24.50 | Aenslaed | I can definitely see problems against bosses like ouro. |
| 08:25.11 | Corrodias | so far, in ZG, i made do with perfectraid's health bars... |
| 08:25.29 | Corrodias | of course squishy is absolutely necessary in AV |
| 08:26.02 | [Ammo] | squishy favors different prio targets per healer |
| 08:26.09 | Aenslaed | yeah. Its just that for fights like ouro, you want to target the low HP people and not the people who are taking alot of damage. |
| 08:26.27 | [Ammo] | so if you have multiple healers in range of that person it favors different targets |
| 08:26.32 | [Ammo] | that way overhealing is reduced |
| 08:26.38 | Corrodias | i think praid will do a good job of that, with all the bars together there and showing their size... if that makes any sens |
| 08:26.40 | Corrodias | *sense |
| 08:26.55 | Corrodias | [Ammo]: what makes you say that? |
| 08:27.27 | Aenslaed | just the plain vanilla EM is great for ouro. Filter out warriors and rogues and just top them all off |
| 08:27.29 | [Ammo] | because maia said so :) |
| 08:27.52 | [Ammo] | aenslaed: can't you filter with squishy too for that fight? |
| 08:27.58 | [Ammo] | just filter out rogues and warriors |
| 08:28.27 | Corrodias | squishy has filters? |
| 08:28.34 | |FF|Im2good4u | the prob i got whit addons in their .. well cpu / mem usage |
| 08:28.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | in raids (BG"s) i get cpu lagg |
| 08:28.48 | Aenslaed | yeah, I couldn't find where squishy had any filter options |
| 08:29.11 | [Ammo] | hmm I thought it had, must be mistaken |
| 08:29.26 | Aenslaed | it doesn't unfortunately |
| 08:29.32 | [Ammo] | ask maia :) |
| 08:29.34 | Corrodias | in AV, i'm often losing 250KB/s to some addon, and i don't know which. at least it's not like before i disabled Conversation Manager (Converse), which was leaking over 1.2MB/s sometimes |
| 08:29.48 | [Ammo] | ugh, insane |
| 08:29.58 | [Ammo] | I don't go over 30kib/s in a full raid in combat |
| 08:30.25 | Aenslaed | yeah, the fubar performance meter is great. That garbage collection option is awesome |
| 08:30.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO how can u see that ? |
| 08:30.43 | Aenslaed | Wonder if it'll help with the creeping pings on thaddius |
| 08:30.44 | Corrodias | performancefu or something |
| 08:30.51 | [Ammo] | fubar_performancefu |
| 08:31.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm im gona need to try that then |
| 08:32.10 | Aenslaed | overall, I'm happy with dropping titanbar for fubar. I just need to find a gold tracker and item bonus mod equivallent |
| 08:32.19 | Corrodias | i use numerous fubar plugins, including money, performance, location, snafu, uh... one for teleporting, and speed. and emotes. |
| 08:32.30 | Aenslaed | oh? there is a money mod? |
| 08:32.30 | Corrodias | Aenslaed: is moneyfu missing something you need? |
| 08:32.43 | Aenslaed | didn't see it on wowace's site |
| 08:32.54 | Corrodias | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4610-FuBar_-_MoneyFu.html |
| 08:33.27 | Corrodias | the character names appear to be blacked out in the screenshots |
| 08:33.38 | Corrodias | the bottom of the list is each character with its amount |
| 08:34.09 | Aenslaed | what about an item bonus mod? |
| 08:34.18 | Aenslaed | that totals up the bonuses of all your gear |
| 08:34.20 | Corrodias | and i believe it works on a per-faction per-realm basis, so you don't mix your horde and ally money |
| 08:34.40 | Corrodias | as for that, i am not aware of one, but i haven't looked |
| 08:36.24 | [Ammo] | aenslaed: itembonusesfu |
| 08:36.30 | [Ammo] | requires bonusscanner as a dep |
| 08:36.32 | [Ammo] | works fine |
| 08:36.53 | Corrodias | sweet, i'm gettin' me that |
| 08:37.33 | Aenslaed | [Ammo]: I tried using that, using the bonusscanner i had from titan panel. Didn't work :/ |
| 08:37.57 | |FF|Im2good4u | itemlinkrecolor is also sweet and workes fine whitout fubar |
| 08:39.02 | Corrodias | |FF|Im2good4u: i can't find that one |
| 08:39.21 | [Ammo] | aenlaed: download a new bonusscanner |
| 08:39.29 | [Ammo] | it's a seperate maintained addon |
| 08:39.48 | Corrodias | looks like there's a newer version, cgbonusscanner |
| 08:40.18 | [Ammo] | no just use the normal bonusscanner |
| 08:40.19 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2877 <- here :p |
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| 08:40.40 | Corrodias | i mean, wowi's page says itembonusesfu works with either one, and the cg one just has some minor updates |
| 08:41.49 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 08:43.18 | Aenslaed | ah, there we go. Item bonus working |
| 08:43.24 | Aenslaed | +816 healing yeah! |
| 08:44.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | oO ? |
| 08:44.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | any1 got a link to i ? i wana know wut the bones thingy does then' |
| 08:47.58 | Corrodias | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4657 |
| 08:48.09 | Corrodias | (the first result in a google search for "itembonusesfu) |
| 08:51.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm my first reslut was a path note list |
| 08:52.04 | Aenslaed | oooooooh |
| 08:52.08 | Aenslaed | omg, i'm an idiot |
| 08:52.26 | Aenslaed | the reason why needy list wasn't working, was because I deleted it when I deleted titan panel! |
| 08:52.37 | Corrodias | that could do it |
| 08:59.04 | Aenslaed | http://aenslaed.mizery.net/WoWScrnShot_092606_045611.jpg |
| 08:59.07 | Aenslaed | there, my new ui |
| 09:00.58 | Corrodias | allies in AV |
| 09:01.06 | Corrodias | makes my moonfire finger itch |
| 09:02.10 | Aenslaed | heh, took me a while too |
| 09:02.29 | Aenslaed | played horde for more than a year. coming up on 10 months as alliance |
| 09:02.37 | Aenslaed | at first, i'd be all inc alliance! |
| 09:03.32 | Corrodias | i've not heard of many people switching -to- ally |
| 09:08.29 | Aenslaed | horde dominated pvp on the server I was on. Moved to a server where it was more balanced |
| 09:10.32 | Corrodias | boy you should see our AV |
| 09:10.48 | Corrodias | it's not necessarily that the allies are better equipped... but their frontal lobes appear to be intact. they understand the possible consequences of what they do. |
| 09:11.44 | Corrodias | they know that it's not to our advantage when we spend 15 minutes fighting on the god damn bridge |
| 09:21.19 | Aenslaed | http://aenslaed.mizery.net/WoWScrnShot_092606_051913.jpg |
| 09:21.20 | Aenslaed | updated |
| 09:21.26 | Aenslaed | changed the combat window location heh |
| 09:22.25 | Corrodias | how very clea |
| 09:22.30 | Corrodias | *clean. i don't have enough space. |
| 09:22.51 | Corrodias | i need to make a major UI rearrangement eventually, including new actionbars |
| 09:23.06 | Aenslaed | only cause i'm runing 1680x1240 |
| 09:23.37 | Corrodias | i can always reduce my UI scale to make a similar effect |
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| 09:32.12 | GremWarsong | Does anyone know if there is a LUA command or method to stop following? |
| 09:33.45 | Corrodias | from what i remember from reading the documentation of an automatic follower thingy... no |
| 09:35.17 | GremWarsong | weird, you can start following, but cant stop |
| 09:35.48 | GremWarsong | Theres no LUA functions that would cause you to stop following? Even as a side effect? |
| 09:35.57 | Aenslaed | man, I keep getting this problem where all my other chat windows disappear |
| 09:36.09 | Corrodias | not that i'm aware |
| 09:38.16 | krka | there used to be :) |
| 09:38.38 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.53 | GremWarsong | hmm |
| 09:39.12 | GremWarsong | Ill try that, good idea |
| 09:40.47 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:53.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | Aenslaed: me2 but luckely some1 here told me how to fix it |
| 09:53.52 | GremWarsong | Didnt work krka =/ |
| 09:53.54 | GremWarsong | eiither didnt work |
| 10:02.01 | |FF|Im2good4u | GremWarsong i think they forgot aboyut that when they remvoed the movment fucntions :p |
| 10:04.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | guys is it posable to create a protexted lua file ? like the Blizzart_ files? |
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| 10:14.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | OMG! DR00D FLIGHT FORM FTW :P |
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| 10:38.03 | wereHamster | how can I lock/reserve a channel so it doesn't disappear when the last one leaves? |
| 10:38.27 | Corrodias | on freenode? |
| 10:39.40 | wereHamster | yes |
| 10:48.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | get chanserv |
| 10:48.28 | |FF|Im2good4u | wpm chanserv |
| 10:48.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | pm |
| 10:49.42 | Corrodias | i dpm |
| 10:49.45 | Corrodias | t lmpw j |
| 10:50.10 | Corrodias | i mean... i don't know how freenode's services work well enough to say if the channel remains visible on a /list when there is nobody in it |
| 10:50.34 | Corrodias | on dalnet, it didn't, but chanserv would maintain the topic and modes when the channel was created by someone joining it again and they would be deopped if they weren't on the list |
| 10:50.59 | Corrodias | since chanserv has a physical presence in channels on freenode, however, the channel may not disappear at all |
| 10:51.25 | wereHamster | seems like "set #channel guard on" did the trick |
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| 11:02.18 | Corrodias | http://www.youdamnkid.com/d/20000216.html |
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| 13:20.19 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Beladona -> WoW will be using Lua 5.1 for the expansion| http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7 | Paste Code Here: http://wowi.pastey.net/ | enUS 1.12.1 patch today |
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| 14:07.06 | TS|Skrom | split personalities O.o |
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| 14:13.29 | cogwheel | Today *is* tuesday, right? |
| 14:13.30 | Legorol | is it confirmed that patch is coming to US today? |
| 14:13.43 | Legorol | cogwheel: i can say with 90% certainty that it is |
| 14:13.57 | cogwheel | and yet i can log into the forums!? |
| 14:14.04 | Legorol | miracles |
| 14:14.36 | cogwheel | yep... patch downloading now |
| 14:14.41 | TS|Skrom | patch? |
| 14:14.47 | TS|Skrom | got notes? |
| 14:14.50 | cogwheel | 1.12.1 |
| 14:14.58 | TS|Skrom | anything interesting? |
| 14:15.04 | cogwheel | no... just started downloading |
| 14:15.13 | cogwheel | might check curse-gaming or wowi.com |
| 14:15.24 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: mount changes |
| 14:15.36 | Legorol | way mount skills work and the way you buy mounts changes |
| 14:15.38 | cogwheel | oh... it's REALLY small... only 3.12MB |
| 14:16.49 | cladhaire | Legorol: They're not documented.. not sure they're in there. |
| 14:17.19 | Legorol | they've left stuff undocumented plenty of times :) |
| 14:18.14 | cladhaire | yeah, but not stuff they've uber announced =) |
| 14:18.17 | TS|Skrom | cogwheel too bad that doesn't mean a fast download >< |
| 14:18.24 | cladhaire | i personally feel it doesn't belong in a bugfix patch |
| 14:18.29 | cogwheel | mine's done... |
| 14:18.31 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 14:18.35 | TS|Skrom | bastard |
| 14:18.44 | Legorol | i agree cladhaire |
| 14:18.58 | Legorol | well, you guys in US will see if it's in or not before us in EU do :) |
| 14:20.06 | TS|Skrom | we |
| 14:20.11 | TS|Skrom | we're number 1! |
| 14:20.17 | Legorol | no, y ou are the test dummies |
| 14:20.23 | Legorol | every problem that hits on patch day hits you first |
| 14:20.31 | Legorol | we get an improved version with the problem fixed ;-) |
| 14:20.38 | TS|Skrom | *sob sob sob* |
| 14:22.42 | Mery | well i'd say it's in a "bugfix" patch couse they don't want _that_ problem when they release BC |
| 14:23.25 | TS|Skrom | what's the changes anyway? |
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| 14:53.52 | TS|Skrom | *sigh* some stupid kid hijacked my server irc channel |
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| 15:16.27 | Cairenn | patch notes are on the front page of wowi now |
| 15:19.28 | Elkano | hmm... so nothing on the riding changes? |
| 15:19.49 | Cairenn | nothing stated /shrug |
| 15:19.55 | Plorkyeran | They never got around to putting in the patch notes, apparently |
| 15:21.42 | cogwheel | at least the forums work |
| 15:21.44 | zenzelezz | "The Quest Tracker will now properly display purchased quest items"... but did they fix the issue with not being able to track new quests yet? |
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| 15:23.50 | Kaso | fixed the flight path bug i see |
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| 15:24.54 | `-FISKER_Q\ | doesn't really matter when they can't update the notes themselves |
| 15:25.32 | cogwheel | Players will no longer hear any sound when they have "Enable all Sound" turned off. |
| 15:25.38 | cogwheel | XD |
| 15:25.43 | TS|Skrom | silly macs :D |
| 15:25.58 | `-FISKER_Q\ | They should fix the alt+tab bug instead :( |
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| 15:26.19 | cogwheel | they should just let sound through period when switched to another window :( |
| 15:26.28 | Mikk | I'd agree |
| 15:26.41 | Mikk | Minimize = silent. Alt+tab = let through. |
| 15:26.57 | cogwheel | or at least make it an option for those who play at work ;) |
| 15:27.04 | Mikk | Hehe |
| 15:27.07 | TS|Skrom | haw |
| 15:27.52 | FISKER_Q | oh yeah |
| 15:27.57 | FISKER_Q | they're doing that in burning crusade btw |
| 15:28.03 | cogwheel | thank god: |
| 15:28.04 | cogwheel | Fixed an issue where if the disenchant window was forced closed, a player would lose both their reagent and the item they were disenchanting. |
| 15:28.26 | cogwheel | I lost about 6 greater nether essences when someone opened a trade with me while disenchanting |
| 15:28.30 | Mikk | Gnhg |
| 15:28.43 | FISKER_Q | doesn't it auto-loot it when it's forced closed? |
| 15:28.57 | cogwheel | s/nether/eternal/ |
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| 15:30.28 | Kevorkian | I believe the bug was that it didn't auto loot |
| 15:31.01 | cogwheel | yep... i had my healthstone trader enabled and had just d/e'ed an item. lost the item and the essence |
| 15:31.07 | cogwheel | i think i lost a brilliant shard that way too |
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| 15:42.01 | Corrodias | so your healthstone trader will trade -anything- you just acquired? |
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| 15:43.06 | cogwheel | ... |
| 15:43.11 | cogwheel | you completely missed the point XD |
| 15:43.34 | cogwheel | they asked me for a healthstone, and the trade window opened, forcing closed the disenchant window... |
| 15:44.02 | Corrodias | oh, autolooting the DE window, yes, that amazes me every time i see it that it doesn't happen |
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| 15:44.50 | Corrodias | but i seem to remember that i've tried closing the window with the "x" after an undesirable result, and it gave me the material anyway |
| 15:45.05 | cogwheel | yes, but that's not a "forced" close... |
| 15:45.35 | Corrodias | i see |
| 15:46.38 | cogwheel | malreth: XD |
| 15:47.00 | Kevorkian | ~emulate malreth |
| 15:47.02 | purl | that makes me sticky in the pants |
| 15:47.34 | malreth | ~emulate me |
| 15:47.36 | purl | Emulate you? I dont think I can dumb myself down that much! |
| 15:47.39 | Corrodias | time for class. [away] |
| 15:47.50 | malreth | ~emulate malreth |
| 15:47.51 | purl | that makes me sticky in the pants |
| 15:48.07 | Kevorkian | ... |
| 15:48.12 | malreth | purl, me |
| 15:48.14 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 15:48.23 | Kevorkian | ~emulate kevorkian |
| 15:48.24 | purl | I'd rather be euthanizing some youth in Asia. |
| 15:48.25 | malreth | sagely, even |
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| 15:51.12 | Cairenn | morning Beladona |
| 15:51.25 | Beladona | morning |
| 15:53.02 | zenzelezz | I find it a bit disturbing when I go to the store, and just as I return and sit down in front of the computers again, a message pops up on MSN... "muahaha" |
| 15:53.40 | cogwheel | i'd probably find that a bit disturbing myself... |
| 15:58.43 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 15:58.48 | Cairenn | yeah, that's a tad odd, zenzelezz |
| 15:59.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | ~emulate Mr_Rabies2 |
| 15:59.08 | Kevorkian | Alwaaaaays watching muahaha |
| 15:59.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | :[ |
| 16:01.09 | Kevorkian | ~emulate Mr_Rabies2 |
| 16:01.47 | Kevorkian | hmm |
| 16:01.53 | Kevorkian | I don't appear to have the syntax down |
| 16:02.34 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: purl, emulate Mr_Rabies2 is ... |
| 16:03.01 | cogwheel | if you want it to be a /me type you put <action>does sutff |
| 16:03.22 | cogwheel | if you want it to be just a statement, you put <reply>I don'tk know what you're talking about |
| 16:03.33 | Kevorkian | ~emulate Mr_Rabies2 |
| 16:03.35 | purl | BATS! Bats. BaTs? |
| 16:03.54 | cogwheel | otherwise it'll be something like "well, last i checked, emulate Mr_Rabies2 is blahblahblah" |
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| 16:07.38 | Kevorkian | ~harm kevorkian |
| 16:07.39 | purl | ACTION introduces Kevorkian to the feeling of being flayed. |
| 16:07.39 | malreth | ~emulate malreth |
| 16:07.41 | purl | Uh... No. Malreth scares me. |
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| 16:10.28 | Legorol | I need a favour from someone who has the US trial client installer |
| 16:10.42 | Legorol | Could you please let me know what the MD5 of the installer files are? |
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| 16:16.00 | wereHamster | how's vista? |
| 16:19.10 | Kirkburn|Vista | Crashy |
| 16:19.41 | Kirkburn|Vista | But it's mostly due to driver support, rather than the OS itself |
| 16:21.13 | cogwheel | mines not crashy :P |
| 16:21.24 | cogwheel | though it has some weird video problems after quitting WoW |
| 16:21.32 | cogwheel | (again, driver-related, not MS's fault) |
| 16:22.09 | cogwheel | cairenn: Can you add a self-cast/self-use macro to the macros and scripts Way-too-FAQ? |
| 16:22.24 | Kirkburn|Vista | I did upgrade from 5600 to 5728, so that probably didn't help too much :P Video codecs have been my main problem now - finding compatible ones |
| 16:22.26 | Cairenn | give me the precise text you want and yes I'll add |
| 16:22.34 | cogwheel | sec |
| 16:23.30 | Legorol | Kirkburn|Vista: do you happen to have the US trial client? |
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| 16:26.36 | Kirkburn|Vista | Legorol, not sure what you mean ... |
| 16:26.46 | Legorol | the thing i was asking for yesterday |
| 16:26.55 | Kirkburn|Vista | The link? |
| 16:26.57 | Legorol | i downloaded the WoW US trial client from fileplanet |
| 16:27.00 | Legorol | no, not the link, the file |
| 16:27.06 | Kirkburn|Vista | nope |
| 16:27.17 | Kirkburn|Vista | Why? |
| 16:28.38 | Legorol | it complains during installation so i'm figuring it might be a corrupt download |
| 16:28.45 | Legorol | now i'm looking for the MD5s for the setup files |
| 16:28.55 | cogwheel | Cairenn: http://wowi.pastey.net/1148 |
| 16:29.03 | Kevorkian | I'm fairly certain most folks here use the non-trial version |
| 16:29.20 | Legorol | the trial and non-trial are actually identical clients |
| 16:29.39 | Legorol | the difference is that the "trial" client download is pre-patched to something like 1.10 or 1.11 already |
| 16:29.40 | Kirkburn|Vista | Kevorkian, it's just so he can download WoW :) |
| 16:30.41 | Legorol | ok i was a bit ambiguous, i guess |
| 16:30.41 | Legorol | what Blizzard calls "trial" client is a fully functional client |
| 16:30.42 | Legorol | the only thing that can be "trial" is the account |
| 16:31.08 | kaiden | Kirkburn|Vista, are you running vista (assuming by your name ;)) |
| 16:31.13 | Kirkburn|Vista | kaiden, yup |
| 16:31.14 | Kevorkian | gotcha, alas, I'm at work and have no access to any version of the client |
| 16:31.27 | kaiden | Kirkburn|Vista, is it still buggy as heck? |
| 16:31.48 | Kirkburn|Vista | kaiden, nope, just needs better driver and program support |
| 16:32.07 | zenzelezz | program support? |
| 16:32.31 | Kirkburn|Vista | Some programs don't work on Vista due to the new 'security arrangements' |
| 16:32.48 | Kirkburn|Vista | Things like DVD burners, anti-virus, that type of stuff |
| 16:32.52 | kaiden | ah |
| 16:32.55 | kaiden | i'll wait for RC2 then |
| 16:33.23 | Kirkburn|Vista | There's one month until Vista goes RTM |
| 16:33.45 | Kirkburn|Vista | i.e. don't be hopeful of an RC2 |
| 16:34.09 | kaiden | wow, i've never known microsoft to not do at least 2 stages of RC's before they go RTM |
| 16:34.18 | cogwheel | kaiden: they kind of did... |
| 16:34.24 | cogwheel | there is a new build of RC1 out there |
| 16:34.29 | cogwheel | i'm using it too :) |
| 16:34.40 | nevcairiel | there were lots of internal leaked builds |
| 16:34.43 | kaiden | well i'm an msdn subscriber and the latest up is 5600 so the other one must be leaked |
| 16:34.49 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: it's not even leaked |
| 16:34.49 | Cairenn | cogwheel: added |
| 16:34.54 | cogwheel | they provided it on their website |
| 16:35.07 | Kirkburn|Vista | 5728 is the latest CPP release |
| 16:35.13 | nevcairiel | really? |
| 16:35.17 | nevcairiel | i thought it was 5600 |
| 16:35.18 | cogwheel | kaiden: no, it's just not stuck right on the front page... |
| 16:35.21 | Laric | there is a public release higher than 5600 |
| 16:35.29 | cogwheel | 5728 iirc |
| 16:35.47 | Kirkburn|Vista | Today will be the last download day |
| 16:35.48 | kaiden | cogwheel, you would think that it would be under their Windows Vista section of the Operating Systems list in the Subscriber Downloads |
| 16:35.48 | kaiden | :P |
| 16:35.51 | TS|Skrom | http://wowi.pastey.net/1149 |
| 16:36.00 | kaiden | can someone link to it so i can grab it then |
| 16:36.02 | cogwheel | http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc1/en/download-5728.htm |
| 16:36.05 | kaiden | thx |
| 16:36.16 | Laric | http://bink.nu/Article8359.bink |
| 16:36.20 | cogwheel | kaiden: /nod |
| 16:36.27 | TS|Skrom | Someone help if you can. I copied my castspellbyname hook and the OnMouseDown that is supposed to be calling CastSpellByName. It does 1/2 of the hooked cast but doesn't actually cast the spell |
| 16:36.27 | Laric | ah too slow :P |
| 16:36.45 | cogwheel | don't get the 64-bit version |
| 16:36.53 | cogwheel | whatever you do :P |
| 16:38.16 | kaiden | i never get 64bit of any of them... it's pointless |
| 16:38.29 | kaiden | and a strain on your system when it has to run 90% of the apps in 32bit emulation |
| 16:40.13 | Beladona | the problem with that statement |
| 16:40.20 | Beladona | "don't get the 64 bit version" |
| 16:40.33 | cogwheel | well, the 32-bit emulation is only in the APIs, so the code itself doesn't run impressively slower. The main problem is driver support. If you have really good drivers on a 64-bit system, you'll actually see better performance on x64 windows |
| 16:40.36 | Beladona | is that much of a software developer's system to switch to 64bit is based on adoption |
| 16:40.47 | Beladona | if no one bothers to adopt 64bit |
| 16:40.52 | Beladona | why program for it? |
| 16:41.00 | Kirkburn|Vista | True, true |
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| 16:41.14 | Beladona | I mean, personally I wouldn't either, but still |
| 16:41.17 | Beladona | its a catch 22 |
| 16:41.25 | cogwheel | Beladona: I agree completely, but since vista is still in testing, even the 32-bit version still has poor driver support yet. |
| 16:41.32 | Beladona | aye |
| 16:41.38 | zenzelezz | 64-bit isn't "desktop ready" yet, still mostly special-application |
| 16:42.04 | Beladona | desktop ready is probably a bad description |
| 16:42.04 | zenzelezz | which is funny, seeing how long they've touted their 64-bit CPUs |
| 16:42.12 | zenzelezz | yes, it is |
| 16:42.18 | Beladona | mainstream? |
| 16:42.20 | Beladona | I guess |
| 16:42.21 | zenzelezz | but right now I couldn't think of a better one |
| 16:42.51 | Beladona | it sucks |
| 16:43.00 | Beladona | users won't go 64 bit until ther eis a good reason |
| 16:43.08 | zenzelezz | the expression I used or the situation? |
| 16:43.11 | Beladona | or until computers are sold that way by default |
| 16:43.26 | Beladona | and developers won't program for it, until it is mainstream |
| 16:43.36 | TS|Skrom | hehe microsoft should bribe blizzard into making wow 64bit only. zomg 6 million vista sales |
| 16:43.46 | Beladona | heh |
| 16:43.46 | Laric | when hddvd is coming it will force the issue as microsoft wont allow hddvd on 32 bit windows |
| 16:43.57 | Beladona | 64bit wow -- hmmm |
| 16:44.10 | Iriel | Wow doesn't even run right on dual core |
| 16:44.17 | Beladona | nope |
| 16:44.21 | cogwheel | Beladona: I have a feeling the 4MB barrier will start presenting problems in a couple years which will force the change to 64-bit |
| 16:44.25 | Iriel | I dont see Blizzard feeling the technology pressure here, their game runs just fine on one 32 bit processor |
| 16:44.33 | zenzelezz | 4MB barrier? |
| 16:44.34 | cogwheel | s/MB/GB RAM / |
| 16:44.34 | Laric | runs very nicely on my core2duo though :P |
| 16:44.49 | Beladona | I can maybe agree with that |
| 16:44.50 | cladhaire | Laric: But it only ones one core.. the other cor ejust picks up the rest of the slack =) |
| 16:44.54 | TS|Skrom | Iriel it wasn't technology pressure I was susggesting, it was $$ pressure :D |
| 16:45.00 | Beladona | regular users are on what? about 1gb minimum now? |
| 16:45.04 | Iriel | Plus your FPS is locked in at 64 max |
| 16:45.06 | Beladona | with most of us going 2gb plus? |
| 16:45.12 | Laric | cladhaire the nice thing is my windows runs nicely on the other core :P |
| 16:45.15 | Beladona | vista will make that go up |
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| 16:45.26 | cladhaire | Laric: Absolutely = |
| 16:45.29 | malreth | the 64 fps cap is a pain |
| 16:45.35 | Qzot | Heyo. |
| 16:45.40 | cogwheel | my current computer has 3gb and my new one that's on a UPS truck somewhere right now has 4 :) |
| 16:45.48 | Beladona | it keeps things stable Malreth |
| 16:45.51 | Cairenn | hi Qzot |
| 16:45.57 | Iriel | Now, personally I have a 60Hz LCD so the 64 FPS cap is only academic |
| 16:45.58 | Laric | Iriel that isnt on intel right? as I am getting 120+ fps on my core2duo |
| 16:46.16 | TS|Skrom | when do you have to use Frame:EnableMouse() and when don't you? right now I Don't have it and it receives <OnMouseDown> fine, as long as I have the control key held and left click |
| 16:46.18 | zenzelezz | enlighten me about the 64 FPS cap... is that hard-coded into WoW or something? |
| 16:46.30 | Iriel | That's on AMD, but I believe intel may have the same issue though I dont know. |
| 16:46.39 | Qzot | Hmm. Mount cost changes didn't make the patch? |
| 16:46.48 | Beladona | it didn't? |
| 16:46.51 | Beladona | you sure? |
| 16:46.55 | Laric | 64fps limit is only on amd x2's |
| 16:46.56 | malreth | Qzot: they made the patch... just not the patch notes |
| 16:46.59 | Qzot | It's not in the patch notes. |
| 16:47.01 | Cairenn | didn't make the notes |
| 16:47.02 | Qzot | Ah. |
| 16:47.05 | Qzot | Weird. |
| 16:47.18 | Qzot | That seems kinda ... lame? |
| 16:47.19 | Laric | and the patch isnt in there.. still locked to 64fps on amd |
| 16:47.28 | Legorol | so, is 1.12.1 live in US? |
| 16:47.32 | Legorol | and are the mount changes in? |
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| 16:47.44 | Qzot | Legorol: Just downloaded it. Servers not up yet. |
| 16:48.11 | kaiden | So recently i bought a Core 2 Duo, top of the line (didn't get the xtreme one as the one i got overclocks faster than the xtreme one can) and i notice in windows that every once in a while when i right click or start a program it just takes a crazy amount of time to process |
| 16:48.19 | Cairenn | Legorol: yes, it's live, we don't know for *sure* since servers are still down |
| 16:48.20 | kaiden | mys ystem partially freezes while it's working |
| 16:48.25 | kaiden | anyone ever seen that happen? |
| 16:48.28 | Beladona | that is weird |
| 16:48.35 | Beladona | was it in beta patch notes? |
| 16:48.40 | Beladona | err ptr |
| 16:48.41 | Beladona | sorry |
| 16:48.45 | Cairenn | nope |
| 16:48.57 | Beladona | maybe an *oops* by the patch notes writer |
| 16:49.00 | Cairenn | was only ever in "unannounced changes" posts by various blues |
| 16:49.02 | Qzot | Nope. |
| 16:49.14 | Legorol | there is a sticky about it by Hortus |
| 16:49.17 | Cairenn | and then verified by various other blues |
| 16:49.30 | Legorol | it's *possible* they decided they need more time on it, and there'll be a 1.12.2 or some such |
| 16:49.30 | kaiden | what mount changes? |
| 16:49.32 | Qzot | Is this a goof, or an intentional semi-stealth patch? |
| 16:49.33 | Cairenn | but has never been in any actual "patch notes", only threads |
| 16:49.39 | Beladona | I doubt it Lego |
| 16:49.43 | Legorol | but i think i'd probably in 1.12.1 |
| 16:49.45 | Beladona | the build version is the same as the last ptr |
| 16:49.51 | Legorol | right |
| 16:49.59 | Legorol | that's surprising, the mount skills on PTR were bugged |
| 16:50.05 | Legorol | you couldn't train the new skills |
| 16:50.08 | Qzot | kaiden: They are changing mounts so that riding skill is 90% of cost, and mounts are 10%. |
| 16:50.09 | Beladona | hmm |
| 16:50.11 | Legorol | i hope that's not the case when they push it :) |
| 16:50.19 | Qzot | kaiden: And deleting all existing mounts from the game. |
| 16:50.28 | Beladona | wait what? |
| 16:50.29 | kaiden | Qzot, nice try :P |
| 16:50.36 | kaiden | even blizzard isn't that stupid |
| 16:50.37 | kaiden | heh |
| 16:50.53 | Legorol | it's possible that on PTR the problem was only because the characters all had old-style skills |
| 16:50.54 | Qzot | kaiden: Well, the 1st part was true. Needed some counterbalance. |
| 16:51.00 | Legorol | and on live it won't be an issue as all chars get converted |
| 16:51.08 | Beladona | true |
| 16:51.30 | Legorol | but we don't know that, all i know is that mounts in the bags on PTR said Requires: UNKNOWN (75) |
| 16:51.32 | Beladona | guess I need to put the compare up |
| 16:51.36 | Legorol | and that lvl 60s couldn't train the new skills |
| 16:51.39 | kaiden | Does riding skill allow you to ride any factions mount? |
| 16:51.41 | kaiden | i can't remember |
| 16:51.50 | kaiden | or do you have to train the riding skill from that faction as well |
| 16:51.51 | Legorol | kaiden: not currently, but will do if the mount changes happen |
| 16:51.53 | Qzot | It will now. |
| 16:52.00 | kaiden | oh well see that's cool then |
| 16:52.07 | Qzot | But mounts still list exactly which races can ride. |
| 16:52.15 | Legorol | Before patch: specific riding skill for each race, cheap, need exalted, BoE mounts, expensive, need exalted |
| 16:52.17 | kaiden | they need to make exalted easier to obtain for other races factions |
| 16:52.20 | Qzot | And you won't be able to purchase cross-race mounts until exalted. |
| 16:52.23 | Qzot | And they're BoP now. |
| 16:52.38 | Legorol | After patch: universal riding skill with two levels, expensive, can get it from any trainer, BoP mounts, expensive, need exalted |
| 16:52.39 | Kirkburn|Vista | Only a day or so ago, Hortus was mentioning how it was going to be in 1.12.1, so I doubt it's not |
| 16:52.54 | Beladona | riding another races faction mount is a "fluff" thing. i don't see any reason to make it "easier" |
| 16:53.05 | Beladona | you want to do it, work for it |
| 16:53.12 | zenzelezz | I find it hard to believe they did the mount change and somehow left it out of the patch notes |
| 16:53.13 | kaiden | yes but it's way too hard currently |
| 16:53.15 | Kirkburn|Vista | You still have to be Exalted |
| 16:53.19 | Qzot | kaiden: The purpose of this change, as I understadn it, is to make acquisition of a second mount *to which you've already earned the right to ride* cheap. |
| 16:53.19 | kaiden | i mean 420 stacks of runecloth.. come on |
| 16:53.21 | cogwheel | Cairenn: how do you like my new forum sig? ;) |
| 16:53.25 | kaiden | that's hard enough in itself |
| 16:53.32 | Beladona | it is? |
| 16:53.40 | Qzot | kaiden: Meh. |
| 16:53.40 | Cairenn | cogwheel: rofl |
| 16:53.41 | Legorol | kaiden: it's hard, but it's not something that improves your in-game abilities |
| 16:53.45 | Legorol | it's a purely cosmetic thing |
| 16:53.49 | Legorol | therefore it doesn't matter how hard it is |
| 16:53.52 | Beladona | I end up with something like 3 stacks per night |
| 16:54.07 | Legorol | if it was something that actually added some new skill to your character, i agree it should be more accessible |
| 16:54.08 | kaiden | i can't complain as i'm a packrat extraordinaire |
| 16:54.13 | Legorol | as it is, it's just a collection of pretty pixels |
| 16:54.18 | kaiden | i have hundreds upon hundreds of runecloth stacks |
| 16:54.19 | Qzot | kaiden: The existence of the runecloth repeatable cheapened my achievement to get a tiger for my human mage, pre-runecloth. Runecloth is for sissies. |
| 16:54.22 | kaiden | but for other people it's tough :) |
| 16:55.19 | Qzot | However, I have to admit that in preparation for this patch, I bought my 50 Orc hunter a raptor. |
| 16:55.27 | kaiden | i'm glad they are doing this though, epic mounts were way too expensive |
| 16:55.40 | Qzot | kaiden: Doesn't change the cost of the first mount. |
| 16:55.42 | Legorol | they still will be |
| 16:55.51 | Legorol | it will still be 1000g to get your first epic mount |
| 16:55.53 | Qzot | kaiden: Only helps if you want a 2nd, or want to change colors. |
| 16:55.54 | MoonWolf | buying your first mount will still be expensive |
| 16:55.58 | kaiden | oh :( sheesh |
| 16:56.01 | MoonWolf | only the ones after that. |
| 16:56.01 | kaiden | that's lame |
| 16:56.09 | Legorol | Before patch: riding skill: 0g, epic mount: 1000g |
| 16:56.10 | MoonWolf | are a lot cheaper. |
| 16:56.20 | Legorol | After patch: riding skill, level 150: 900g, epic mount: 100g |
| 16:56.23 | Qzot | Legorol: Actually 100g, 900g. |
| 16:56.35 | Legorol | ehm.. afaik you don't need new riding skill |
| 16:56.38 | Qzot | Hmm. Maybe you're right. |
| 16:56.45 | cogwheel | Ever since I found Auctioneer, getting a first mount even on a brand new realm hasn't been an issue for me ;) |
| 16:56.46 | MoonWolf | if you have your epic mount you need nothing new |
| 16:56.46 | Legorol | Qzot, pre-patch there is only one riding skill per race |
| 16:56.48 | MoonWolf | if you do not. |
| 16:56.50 | Legorol | which costs 80g |
| 16:56.57 | MoonWolf | you need to buy a new rank of the riding skill. |
| 16:56.59 | Qzot | Legorol: I stand corrected. |
| 16:57.00 | Legorol | which you would've gotten already for your lvl 40 mount |
| 16:57.07 | Qzot | Legorol: Actually, I sit corrected. |
| 16:57.09 | kaiden | that's gonna suck butt since i have so many 60's |
| 16:57.10 | Legorol | lol |
| 16:57.15 | kaiden | and quite a few of them that i want to get epic mounts |
| 16:57.28 | kaiden | I'm so happy, i finally got my mage his mantle last night from scholo! :) |
| 16:57.28 | Legorol | well, nothing changed for those chars |
| 16:57.34 | zenzelezz | I'm staying with my 60% with these changes |
| 16:57.34 | Legorol | they still need exalted, and 1000g |
| 16:57.35 | TS|Skrom | when do you have to use Frame:EnableMouse() and when don't you? right now I Don't have it and it receives <OnMouseDown> fine, as long as I have the control key held and left click |
| 16:57.44 | kaiden | now i gotta get the robes which i hear are really easy to get |
| 16:57.58 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: depends on which <OnXxx> handlers are present in the XML of the frame |
| 16:58.11 | TS|Skrom | <OnMouseDown> for one |
| 16:58.13 | Legorol | if you have any mouse-related ones, e.g. OnMouseDown, OnClick etc., then mouse is enabled automatically |
| 16:58.15 | Qzot | TS|Skrom: Someone asked that question just 10 minutes ago. Scroll up, and you're sure to find an answer to it. |
| 16:58.30 | MoonWolf | also riding skills are no longer racial bound |
| 16:58.33 | TS|Skrom | *I* asked the question 10 minutes ago and never saw an answer :D |
| 16:58.39 | Qzot | :D |
| 16:58.52 | cladhaire | anyone have a patch mirror, and can someone else confirm the MD5 for me? =) |
| 16:59.17 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: it should receive OnMouseDown even without Ctrl too |
| 16:59.20 | jaxdahl | i have a mirror |
| 16:59.27 | cogwheel | it's only 3MB |
| 16:59.32 | Qzot | ~seen cide |
| 16:59.50 | purl | cide is currently on #wowi-lounge (2h 57m 29s), last said: 'or move it to a separate statement (i is not incremented at evaluation)'. |
| 16:59.50 | TS|Skrom | Legorol hrm... it doesn't seem to be though |
| 16:59.50 | jaxdahl | http://jax2.zenblue.net/WoW-1.12.0.5595-to-1.12.1.5875-enUS-patch.exe |
| 16:59.50 | Cide | <-- |
| 16:59.50 | jaxdahl | let me make a md5 for you |
| 16:59.57 | cladhaire | cogwheel: At training, no torrent available =) |
| 16:59.57 | TS|Skrom | http://wowi.pastey.net/1149 -- check the comments at the bottem |
| 17:00.00 | Qzot | Oh. You *are* here. |
| 17:00.40 | Cide | yup |
| 17:00.56 | kaiden | so quick question, if i have an epic mount currently and i get exalted with say darnassus (i'm a gnome) does that mean i automatically get the 100g total price |
| 17:01.02 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: output the name variable right before the call to CastSpellByName... |
| 17:01.03 | kaiden | or do i have to pay 900g for the first one of that faction? |
| 17:01.09 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower|Univ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 17:01.13 | MoonWolf | 100g |
| 17:01.18 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: it might not be set properly |
| 17:01.18 | kaiden | wonderful |
| 17:01.19 | MoonWolf | because you buy the mount for a 100g |
| 17:01.22 | TS|Skrom | if you look at the hook, I did that very thing :( print(name) |
| 17:01.22 | MoonWolf | no skill needed. |
| 17:01.23 | jaxdahl | 911FE3C55A246BC1AE34D42A18E428CA *WoW-1.12.0.5595-to-1.12.1.5875-enUS-patch.exe |
| 17:01.25 | kaiden | i'm gonna go get me a kitty cat then |
| 17:01.30 | TS|Skrom | it shows the exact name I'd expect |
| 17:01.30 | MoonWolf | because the skill is the same across faction now. |
| 17:01.38 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: thanks much =) |
| 17:01.44 | jaxdahl | cladhaire, you can also double check with the downloader |
| 17:01.59 | Legorol | kaiden: if you already have an epic, you will receive the lvl 150 riding skill when the patch hits |
| 17:02.01 | Kirkburn|Vista | Basically the change is - it's still as hard to get your first mount, but subsequent ones of the same level are much much easier |
| 17:02.23 | kaiden | i wonder if they lowered the price of the epic ram in av |
| 17:02.23 | Qzot | Cide: My guild is apparently running a "modded" version of ct raid tracker. "1.25.12 (modded)". When I diff it against the latest version from wowi, diff can't even align reasonable chunks. The modded version is *not* track raid members correctly. I'm wondering what you know about this mod, and what kind of advice you might give. |
| 17:02.23 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: you shouldn't be using a global named name like that |
| 17:02.23 | Legorol | kaiden: so if you get exaclted with Darnassus, you wil only need to pay 100g for a mount |
| 17:02.24 | kaiden | if they lowered it to 100g i'm sure tons of people will buy it |
| 17:02.24 | jaxdahl | yea it's 10g for the av ram |
| 17:02.29 | Qzot | s/version is/version does |
| 17:02.34 | kaiden | jax... no shit? |
| 17:02.36 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: it's not unique enough and you may have some other addon overwriting it |
| 17:02.36 | kaiden | sorry for the language |
| 17:02.37 | Legorol | kaiden: you still need the exalted |
| 17:02.42 | kaiden | i have the exalted |
| 17:02.43 | kaiden | lol |
| 17:02.45 | Cide | Qzot: that's barely even the same mod, so I have no idea |
| 17:02.54 | Qzot | Cide: Exactly. |
| 17:02.57 | Legorol | kaiden: do you already have at least one epic mount? |
| 17:03.01 | TS|Skrom | cogwheelI thought that when you get the variable from a function header (function myfunction(name, onself) that it was local to taht function? |
| 17:03.02 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: besides, you should be putting the print next to the cast |
| 17:03.07 | Legorol | kaiden: if so, you'll be able to buy it straight away for 100g after the patch |
| 17:03.11 | Cide | I don't have any advice as I have no idea what has changed |
| 17:03.14 | cmunn | Qzot, Are y'all using the modded version for EQDKP? |
| 17:03.22 | Qzot | Cide: I was shooting in the dark, wondering if it was a branch that you were already familiar with. Sounds like not. |
| 17:03.24 | Legorol | actually, the real cost will be 90g since you are exalted, and 80g if you are at least Sergeant |
| 17:03.30 | Qzot | cmunn: Yeah. |
| 17:03.31 | Cide | nope :/ |
| 17:03.32 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: sure, but you're not passing it to TotemTimer_OnMouseDown() |
| 17:03.46 | Qzot | Stupid way to mod it, imho. |
| 17:04.03 | Legorol | gogo IRC! |
| 17:04.08 | TS|Skrom | oh... I see where you are saying.. I had local in there last night, I swear :D |
| 17:04.10 | jaxdahl | cladhaire |
| 17:04.10 | kaiden | i'm going to laugh at my roommate |
| 17:04.16 | jaxdahl | checksum is here too: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/checksum/119 |
| 17:04.16 | Qzot | If you want something for EQDKP, it would have made more sense to write an external lua script to scrape the saved variables and write the xml. |
| 17:04.17 | kaiden | he bought 2 av epic mounts last night |
| 17:04.19 | kaiden | for 720g each |
| 17:04.22 | kaiden | :P |
| 17:04.23 | jaxdahl | checks out with my checksum as well |
| 17:04.29 | cladhaire | jaxdahl: Thanks =) |
| 17:04.31 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: anyway, that's where your print should be, 'cause that's where it tries to cast the spell |
| 17:04.44 | kaiden | Legorol, yes i have an epic mount on my rogue |
| 17:04.49 | kaiden | a epic chicken |
| 17:04.58 | kaiden | and i've always wanted a ram instead |
| 17:04.58 | TS|Skrom | cogwheel What I'm saying is though, when I CTRL-Rightclick on the frame it restarts the timer (TotemTimer_CheckExistingTimer()) and prints the name |
| 17:05.00 | TS|Skrom | but doesn't cast |
| 17:05.07 | cmunn | Qzot, Yes, and no... There's a lot of advantages to the modded version which aren't present in the official version |
| 17:05.08 | Qzot | cmunn: Do you know anything about the modded version, and why it doesn't correctly track raid participants? |
| 17:05.19 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: i understand that |
| 17:05.50 | Legorol | wow, all blue stickies regarding the mount changes on PTR forum got deleted |
| 17:06.04 | Qzot | cmunn: Even still, there are usually ways to have even the live code which changes behavior reside in a separate file ... easier to track with the base version. |
| 17:06.23 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 17:06.28 | zenzelezz | maybe they changed their minds? |
| 17:06.37 | Qzot | Cide: You didn't know even about the existence of this branch? |
| 17:06.44 | Cide | I do |
| 17:06.59 | Cide | but like I said, it's been modded so much that we can't even support it |
| 17:06.59 | Qzot | Ah, k. |
| 17:07.13 | Qzot | I certainly understand that. Esp after looking at the diff. :P |
| 17:07.15 | cmunn | Qzot, What kind of raid participant issues are you having? |
| 17:07.20 | jaxdahl | Legorol, here you go: http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/28355274.htm |
| 17:07.30 | Cide | we're going to relase a new, reworked version of CT_RaidTracker sometime |
| 17:07.43 | jaxdahl | that's cool, cide. |
| 17:07.43 | Qzot | Um. Members listed as present who had left. Members who were there for the entire raid not be listed for several bosses. |
| 17:07.58 | Qzot | Cide: I know. |
| 17:08.35 | Qzot | Cide: I'm working with my guild leaders to see if we should ask to be in the beta test. |
| 17:08.35 | jaxdahl | Cide, will it be able to indicate people who were out of zone at the time of a boss defeat? |
| 17:09.04 | Qzot | cmunn: Is there anyone supporting the modded version? |
| 17:09.28 | Cide | jaxdahl: hopefully :) I don't have any details at all right now though |
| 17:09.36 | cmunn | I'm currently using the 1.25.13 modded version, and I have minimal issue with that, but I do my raids per boss (End after loot, and start a new raid) |
| 17:09.58 | TS|Skrom | Does MouseDown count as a hardware event as far as abilities are concerned? should I be using a button and its OnClick? |
| 17:11.12 | cmunn | Qzot, I'm not entirely sure. I get most of my information from the CT_RaidTracker Plugin for EQdkp forum at http://forums.eqdkp.com |
| 17:11.14 | kaiden | Cide, i heard your new CTRaidAssist was going to be the most configurable raid system out for wow |
| 17:11.19 | kaiden | Cide, any merit to those rumors? |
| 17:11.20 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: it's a hardware event, yes |
| 17:11.39 | Cide | kaiden: we'll see? :) |
| 17:11.45 | TS|Skrom | Legorol How certain? |
| 17:11.45 | kaiden | Cide, oh come on ;) |
| 17:11.48 | kaiden | give us more than that lol |
| 17:12.03 | kaiden | oh btw Cide, in CTRA how do you show the virtual raid panels? |
| 17:12.05 | kaiden | i've always wondered that |
| 17:12.30 | cmunn | Hardcoded member info |
| 17:12.36 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: not too certain, and it just reminded me of something |
| 17:12.53 | TS|Skrom | oh? |
| 17:12.54 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: in fact it may very well be that MouseDown isn't a hardware event, only OnClick |
| 17:13.01 | Cide | kaiden: hehe, a big hack :) |
| 17:13.03 | cmunn | It's really hacked. (But certainly works) |
| 17:13.07 | Legorol | TS|Skrom: you'd need to check |
| 17:13.32 | TS|Skrom | wowwiki is silent on Frame:OnMouseDown :( |
| 17:13.45 | malreth | Legorol: OnMouseDown is not a hardware event. OnClick is |
| 17:13.56 | TS|Skrom | malreth ! how certain? |
| 17:14.01 | malreth | very certain |
| 17:14.05 | TS|Skrom | wonderful |
| 17:14.13 | Legorol | go with malreth ;-) |
| 17:14.21 | malreth | purl, me |
| 17:14.23 | purl | malreth is always right |
| 17:14.26 | malreth | see! |
| 17:14.30 | TS|Skrom | that woudl explain my problem, thanks to cogwheel fo |
| 17:14.35 | malreth | purl, botsnack |
| 17:14.35 | purl | malreth: thanks |
| 17:14.39 | TS|Skrom | for making me see that as a possibility :D |
| 17:14.47 | TS|Skrom | and thanks malreth for your certainty :D |
| 17:14.58 | malreth | np |
| 17:15.01 | Cide | kaiden: it's going to be very versatile, hopefully |
| 17:15.02 | cogwheel | yw |
| 17:15.42 | kaiden | Cide, i hope so, i use perfectraid currently due to the sheer size requirements of the ctra frames can't wait for a customizable one that i can make all pretty and goofy lookin |
| 17:15.53 | Qzot | Versatility is way overrated. |
| 17:16.14 | Cide | yep; if ctra didn't have any options it'd be even more popular :) |
| 17:16.32 | kaiden | ok nice.. vista rc1 5728 done downloading :) now the question is.. do i risk installing it |
| 17:16.42 | kaiden | or should i just install it on my second computer to save myself the headache if it goes wrong |
| 17:17.39 | cogwheel | kaiden: you considering upgrading 5600? |
| 17:17.52 | kaiden | cogwheel, i dont run 5600 |
| 17:17.57 | kaiden | i run plain old xp |
| 17:18.08 | cogwheel | if you have a separate partition, it should be fine to install it along side xp |
| 17:18.14 | cogwheel | mine hasn't had any troubles |
| 17:18.15 | TS|Skrom | now to wait for servers to come up to test ^.^ |
| 17:18.25 | kaiden | i'll throw in another hd into this machine i guesss |
| 17:20.31 | cmunn | What's the name of the frame that's the background for the party info stuffs? I've got a raid mod that doesn't hide it properly? |
| 17:21.18 | kaiden | cmunn, there's an option in INterface Options that allows you to auto hide it in a raid |
| 17:24.12 | cmunn | My raid mod screws that up, so I want to do it manually |
| 17:26.10 | Kevorkian | I've actually had the default interface fail to hid the party interface fully |
| 17:26.17 | Kevorkian | sometimes it leaves the buffs up |
| 17:26.34 | TS|Skrom | Kirkburn|Vista O.o |
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| 17:28.34 | Kirkburn|Vista | Whee, no more Arial, Tahoma, MS Serif and MS Sans Serif :D Anyone using Vista, you may be interested in http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/26/fix-windows-vistas-fonts/ |
| 17:28.52 | cogwheel | I like tahoma :( |
| 17:29.02 | Kirkburn|Vista | Segoe UI is better =) |
| 17:29.06 | cogwheel | it has serifs on the I's to make them distinguishable from Ls |
| 17:29.11 | malreth | Myriad Pro is my new favorite font |
| 17:29.40 | Kirkburn|Vista | One nice change is that Google no longer uses Arial :) |
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| 17:30.45 | zenzelezz | I hate MS for Comic Sans |
| 17:31.31 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: Comic Sans has its place. The problem isn't the font, it's the people who use it... |
| 17:31.48 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: fonts don't kill people... people kill people XD |
| 17:31.54 | zenzelezz | I know |
| 17:32.07 | zenzelezz | but it's absolutely everywhere... most of where it shouldn't be |
| 17:33.41 | cogwheel | Just be glad people don't still use <blink> much on websites ... |
| 17:34.26 | zenzelezz | doesn't matter, I disallow the tag anyway |
| 17:34.28 | Kevorkian | oh god, my eyes |
| 17:35.21 | Kirkburn|Vista | hehe |
| 17:36.22 | DrDre | finally done, http://fanetworks.net/wowstatus.php?realm=Hyjal server up monitor checks every 5s and will play a sound when its up, change hyjal to your realm |
| 17:36.35 | Kirkburn|Vista | Haha! WoWWiki is now all in Segoe UI :D |
| 17:36.40 | DrDre | huh? |
| 17:36.56 | zenzelezz | looks the same as always to me |
| 17:37.08 | DrDre | same |
| 17:37.13 | Kirkburn|Vista | What have I just been talking about zenzelezz :P |
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| 17:37.21 | zenzelezz | no clue |
| 17:37.38 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 17:37.53 | Kirkburn|Vista | That blog post links a Vista registry edit to change all system fonts to Segoe UI, and that inclides the IE fonts :) |
| 17:38.09 | zenzelezz | I disregard anything about Vista |
| 17:38.14 | Kirkburn|Vista | hehe |
| 17:38.16 | zenzelezz | and IE for that matter |
| 17:38.24 | Kirkburn|Vista | DrDre, that's a great idea :) |
| 17:38.33 | Kirkburn|Vista | Probably effects Firefox too |
| 17:38.37 | Cairenn | hi JoshBorke |
| 17:38.43 | Kirkburn|Vista | *affects |
| 17:38.58 | Kirkburn|Vista | Buongiorno, JoshBorke |
| 17:39.09 | wereHamster | Kirkburn|Vista, from the blog you linked: They were both quite helpful and suffered through countless reboots with me ... does vista require a reboot if you change the fonts? |
| 17:39.28 | Kirkburn|Vista | After applying the regedit, yup |
| 17:39.43 | cogwheel | it's only 'cause of the registry change |
| 17:39.52 | cogwheel | it doesn't directly have anything to do with the fonts |
| 17:40.17 | wereHamster | It's like back in the days of win95 :( |
| 17:40.21 | Kirkburn|Vista | Basically, it does something along the lines of redirecting all the font requests, kinda like ClearFont, I suppose |
| 17:40.39 | cogwheel | wereHamster: you're overgeneralizing |
| 17:41.32 | wereHamster | TBH I don't know about the other parts of Vista, but changing fonts seems to be something simple that it shouldn't need a reboot |
| 17:41.36 | Kirkburn|Vista | There are somethings that are just silly to apply in real-time, I wouldn't want a program checking every couple of seconds to see what font it should use |
| 17:41.43 | cogwheel | wereHamster: this isn't about changing fonts |
| 17:42.01 | cogwheel | it's about redirecting font access for all programs running in windows |
| 17:43.57 | TS|Skrom | a few servers are up |
| 17:44.20 | TS|Skrom | whoa about 20 up now lol |
| 17:45.03 | cogwheel | :( mine won't be up 'till tomorrow |
| 17:45.15 | TS|Skrom | sux :( |
| 17:45.27 | TS|Skrom | my secondary won't be |
| 17:45.34 | wereHamster | ok then.. in that case I'd say a logout/login should be enough to reset the fonts |
| 17:45.49 | cogwheel | wereHamster: the fonts are requried before the login screen though |
| 17:46.28 | cogwheel | I agree that a FULL reboot shouldn't be necessary, but they'd basically have to unload everything and reload it anyway |
| 17:49.18 | Kirkburn|Vista | Yeah, just a windows reboot, rather than a power off reboot would be nice |
| 17:49.21 | cogwheel | I still can't believe that it's tuesday, there's a patch, numerous servers will be down until tomorrow, and yet... |
| 17:49.27 | cogwheel | we can still access the forums :D |
| 17:49.35 | Kirkburn|Vista | lol |
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| 17:52.21 | DrDre | Kirkburn|Vista> your server just come up? :P |
| 17:52.26 | cogwheel | Honestly, they shouldn't have encouraged the direct use of fonts to begin with |
| 17:52.42 | Kirkburn|Vista | I'm in the EU, so doesn't affect me anyway ;) |
| 17:52.43 | DrDre | i noticed sessions dont work properly with AJAX and it keeps playing sound every refresh, its meant to only play it once |
| 17:52.46 | DrDre | oh |
| 17:52.56 | Kirkburn|Vista | So, er, an EU version could be cool? |
| 17:53.09 | DrDre | giveme url to eu's realmstatus page |
| 17:53.16 | DrDre | and ill make a woweustatus.php |
| 17:53.44 | Kirkburn|Vista | eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 17:53.48 | jaxdahl | confirmed - mount changes are in |
| 17:53.48 | FISKER_Q | http://wow-europe.com/en/serverstatus/ |
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| 17:53.53 | Kirkburn|Vista | Oh that? |
| 17:54.39 | DrDre | ya |
| 17:54.46 | DrDre | my script parses the realmstatus.xml |
| 17:55.04 | DrDre | erm |
| 17:55.07 | DrDre | EU's is different |
| 17:56.01 | DrDre | eh sorry i dont feel like going thru the work to do EU >< they dont use xml file on EU's its straight out dynamic html cod |
| 17:56.02 | DrDre | code |
| 17:56.31 | TS|Skrom | haha I just made someones day |
| 17:56.37 | DrDre | if you know php kirk i can give you the script if you want to make it work on EU's :P |
| 17:57.05 | Gryphen | Mal'Ganis Mal%27Ganis doesnt work :) |
| 17:57.28 | DrDre | odd, i coded in ' support and tested with 1 server |
| 17:57.29 | TS|Skrom | I had a level 21 hunter on lethon... decided I didn't want him anymore, all the people I knew on there have quit. so I log in, sell all my junk (to a total of 2g 81s) and give it to the first non twink I saw (a warrior with a +shadow damage sword... yeah he got that from a drop, not the AH) |
| 17:58.11 | FISKER_Q | cute |
| 17:58.44 | DrDre | eek my bad i see the mistake |
| 17:58.46 | DrDre | one sec ill fix |
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| 17:59.26 | DrDre | fixed |
| 17:59.31 | DrDre | try Mal'Ganis now |
| 18:00.05 | DrDre | blizz replaces ' to the &43242; code in the xml file is why it took lil extra work |
| 18:00.56 | jaxdahl | http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4369/wowscrnshot092606125729ga7.jpg |
| 18:03.42 | Kaso | spirit bond? ^_- are you a farmer? |
| 18:04.30 | jaxdahl | that's not my screenshot |
| 18:04.38 | Kaso | ah k |
| 18:05.29 | DrDre | 10s login time... |
| 18:05.31 | DrDre | wow lol |
| 18:05.34 | DrDre | takes me 30-40 |
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| 18:07.05 | Plorkyeran | At level 43 BM spec is great |
| 18:07.14 | kaiden | btw they made the mount change |
| 18:09.30 | Kirkburn|Vista | Hmm, interesting side-effect of that Vista thing I talked about earlier - I can no longer use Arial or Tahoma. They do not exist on this PC =P |
| 18:10.17 | kaiden | off to buy my new epic mount yay |
| 18:10.17 | kaiden | hehe |
| 18:10.28 | Kirkburn|Vista | nice :D |
| 18:11.23 | grr | hmm |
| 18:11.35 | grr | anyone know where i can find a "chat buble" texture in the ingame textures? |
| 18:11.53 | grr | Like the one you get when you have a person you can talk to, i know that's a pointer or something but still is there any texture like that anywhere? |
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| 18:16.03 | grr | found one! ;D |
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| 18:18.12 | kaiden | [Stormpike Battle Charger] ZOMGORD I love you blizzard! |
| 18:18.13 | kaiden | hehe |
| 18:18.18 | kaiden | and it was only 8g! |
| 18:19.14 | Plorkyeran | I should go buy one of those |
| 18:19.16 | cladhaire | sonofabitch =( |
| 18:19.19 | cladhaire | i dont have 150 riding skill |
| 18:19.23 | cladhaire | so i can't buy my wolf =( |
| 18:19.48 | Mikma | jaxdahl: WLOF?!? :D |
| 18:20.22 | cladhaire | where do horde go to buy riding skill? |
| 18:20.24 | cladhaire | that i can't afford! |
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| 18:31.21 | Legorol | Has everyone received their mount skills as expected? |
| 18:31.50 | cogwheel | can ranged weapons be swapped in combat? |
| 18:32.13 | cladhaire | Legorol: Yes, sadly |
| 18:32.36 | Beladona | why sadly? |
| 18:32.37 | malreth | cladhaire: sad? why sad? |
| 18:32.46 | cladhaire | cause i dont have 150/150 |
| 18:32.49 | cladhaire | and the AV mount is taunting me. |
| 18:32.51 | cladhaire | only costing 9g |
| 18:33.17 | Beladona | hehe |
| 18:33.18 | Legorol | didn't you have an epic mount? |
| 18:33.19 | cladhaire | and i can't buy it cause i dont have the skill *cry* |
| 18:33.22 | cladhaire | no i didn't. |
| 18:33.27 | Beladona | me neither |
| 18:33.29 | cladhaire | i was trying to get th emoney together to buy my AV mount |
| 18:33.37 | cladhaire | i have a [Hand of Edward the Odd] but I just can't sell it. |
| 18:33.40 | Legorol | well now you can spend it on the 150 riding skill ;-) |
| 18:33.41 | Shadowed | got the skill fine |
| 18:33.42 | Beladona | something about anyhting over 300g burning a hole in my pocket |
| 18:33.45 | cogwheel | i'm still farming for my lock epic |
| 18:34.07 | DrDre | if you didnt have an epic mount, AV actually cost more than it did before now |
| 18:34.12 | DrDre | when you factor in riding skill |
| 18:34.33 | cladhaire | THANKS FOR MAKING ME FEEEEEL BETTER ABOUT IT DRDRE! |
| 18:34.44 | DrDre | lol |
| 18:35.13 | Plorkyeran | Only about 100g more |
| 18:35.18 | DrDre | its still SLIGHY cheaper than a faction mount |
| 18:35.20 | kaiden | Anyone here play a frost mage? |
| 18:35.29 | kaiden | i'm trying to figure out how to spec my mage for pve |
| 18:35.30 | DrDre | bout 70g more |
| 18:35.36 | DrDre | 640 was price with full discounts |
| 18:35.41 | DrDre | now its 720+8 |
| 18:35.51 | kaiden | uhm the charger from av was 720g |
| 18:35.55 | DrDre | nope |
| 18:35.58 | kaiden | at least for me and i have full faction in av |
| 18:35.59 | DrDre | i got for 640 |
| 18:36.05 | Plorkyeran | Were you rank 3+? |
| 18:36.10 | DrDre | i was yes |
| 18:36.13 | kaiden | weird, as i have 2199 and rank 5 |
| 18:36.16 | kaiden | and it was 720g |
| 18:36.22 | kaiden | erm 21999 rep |
| 18:36.53 | jaxdahl | AV ram is 800 base |
| 18:37.07 | jaxdahl | rank/rep will take it to 640 |
| 18:37.10 | jaxdahl | but it's cheaper now |
| 18:37.15 | jaxdahl | 10g base, 8g after disc |
| 18:37.18 | Plorkyeran | The stupid rank 11 horse is making me want to rank back up to commander |
| 18:37.25 | Plorkyeran | Now that I could actually ride it without piles of runecloth |
| 18:37.38 | DrDre | ya but u still gotta pay the riding skill fee jaxdahl |
| 18:37.44 | jaxdahl | yes. |
| 18:37.45 | DrDre | so it costs more to get if its your first mount now |
| 18:38.25 | jaxdahl | 720+8=728g cheapest very fast mount |
| 18:38.42 | kaiden | it costs 720g to buy Riding Skill now? |
| 18:38.44 | kaiden | lol |
| 18:38.45 | kaiden | that's horrible |
| 18:38.46 | DrDre | use to be able to get for 640g is what i meant |
| 18:38.46 | DrDre | yes |
| 18:38.47 | jaxdahl | 900g base |
| 18:38.53 | jaxdahl | 810/720 after discount |
| 18:38.54 | DrDre | its still a great change |
| 18:38.56 | DrDre | im glad they did it |
| 18:39.07 | DrDre | noone should be bitching |
| 18:39.10 | DrDre | it only helped us |
| 18:39.26 | Plorkyeran | Unless you were saving up for an AV mount as your first epic mount :P |
| 18:39.28 | DrDre | the only negative side for it is a lil more for Av mount which doesnt hurt barely anything |
| 18:40.30 | Beladona | if you think about it, you ahve to get the riding skill anyway |
| 18:40.35 | Beladona | regardless of what mount you get |
| 18:40.43 | kaiden | So no 60 mages here? |
| 18:40.48 | Shadowed | You can now buy cross-faction mounts for 9g at rank 11 |
| 18:40.52 | Shadowed | it's awesome |
| 18:41.11 | cladhaire | screw you all |
| 18:41.14 | cladhaire | i dont have time to grind again |
| 18:41.19 | DrDre | i wonder whats going to happen with pvp mounts when tbc comes out |
| 18:41.19 | Beladona | I feel your pain cladhaire |
| 18:41.19 | cladhaire | its 720 for 150 riding skill =( |
| 18:41.24 | cladhaire | that's more than the av mount used to cost |
| 18:41.25 | Plorkyeran | But now there might be other night elves stupid enough to ride rams :/ |
| 18:41.29 | Shadowed | your fault for not having an epic mount! |
| 18:41.30 | Beladona | I don't have it either, and I don't feel like farming |
| 18:41.42 | Plorkyeran | And I'll no longer be a retarded little unique snowflake |
| 18:41.59 | Beladona | with this change though -- if you get the epic horse drop from Rivendare, you still have to pay to ride it |
| 18:42.03 | Beladona | thats a downside |
| 18:42.37 | cladhaire | =( |
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| 18:43.45 | Kevorkian | only if you can't already ride epic mounts |
| 18:44.18 | Beladona | the point still holds true |
| 18:44.22 | Beladona | does it not? |
| 18:44.45 | Plorkyeran | winterspring tiger got a lot cheaper for non-night elves |
| 18:45.01 | Plorkyeran | No more having to grind revered with them and exalted with darnassus to actually ride it |
| 18:45.13 | Mery | its exalted with them |
| 18:45.19 | Hatsuki | yep |
| 18:45.42 | Hatsuki | and getting exalted with darna is very easy compared to winterspring trainers |
| 18:45.53 | Mery | the pharse "only the most revered" is misleading in his text |
| 18:46.14 | Plorkyeran | Yeah, but it costs a significant amount of money, and the stuff you have to grind don't have that great of drops |
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| 18:46.59 | Mery | uhm i did it during june last yeat and well even then I could easily cover the cost of the mount and darnassus rep with the money i got |
| 18:47.04 | Kirkburn|Vista | Hey, can anyone get to this page? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:3WingPanorama.jpg |
| 18:47.07 | FISKER_Q | has anyone with more than 1 epic mount tried the new patch yet? |
| 18:47.18 | Plorkyeran | What's to try about it? |
| 18:47.22 | cogwheel | Kirkburn|Vista: yes |
| 18:47.26 | FISKER_Q | yeah Kirkburn|Vista |
| 18:47.31 | Kirkburn|Vista | I can't :/ |
| 18:47.31 | DrDre | i just bought my 2nd epic mount |
| 18:47.45 | FISKER_Q | Plorkyeran i just want my fate sealed |
| 18:47.52 | Hatsuki | I've 6 epic mounts :o |
| 18:48.05 | FISKER_Q | i got 3 epic mounts and i was hoping to get atleast 2 refunded :P |
| 18:48.10 | Plorkyeran | No refunds |
| 18:48.16 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 18:48.24 | FISKER_Q | Blizard is a cheap date |
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| 18:48.35 | Beladona | compares are up on wdn |
| 18:48.41 | FISKER_Q | wdn? |
| 18:48.45 | Plorkyeran | It'd be nice if you could sell back your non-pvp mount when you hit rank 11, though... |
| 18:48.48 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 18:49.10 | jaxdahl | hey.. can you go here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-druid/spells.html and tell me the cast timer on flight form as it appears NOW? thanks |
| 18:49.27 | Plorkyeran | 3 seconds |
| 18:49.28 | Hatsuki | yes, and it would be nice to be able to sell back lvl40 mount when you get lvl60 mount |
| 18:49.32 | Plorkyeran | same as it's been |
| 18:49.34 | Hatsuki | but not gonna happen |
| 18:50.12 | Aenslaed | Does anyone know how to fix the bug where all your chat windows but general disappear? |
| 18:50.48 | cogwheel | ABANDON_QUEST_CONFIRM_WITH_ITEMS = "Abandon \"%s\", destroying %s?"; |
| 18:50.49 | jaxdahl | hm |
| 18:50.50 | jaxdahl | http://wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/burningcrusade/druid/spells.html |
| 18:50.54 | jaxdahl | it says instant cast now |
| 18:51.02 | cogwheel | does this mean abandoning quests will destroy the items that went along with them now? |
| 18:51.12 | Plorkyeran | That's what it looks like |
| 18:51.36 | Shadowed | That wouldn't make sense, it would screw up stuff like the BL buff quests |
| 18:51.36 | Plorkyeran | There's a new dialog for it in staticpopup, too |
| 18:51.36 | Plorkyeran | BL buff items aren't quest items |
| 18:51.39 | Plorkyeran | At least, they weren't |
| 18:51.40 | leech___ | Is there anyway function to determine if a unit is a player or npc? |
| 18:51.42 | Beladona | Aenslaed: wow folder/WTF/Account/YOURUSERNAME/YOur Server/Character name/chat-cache.txt |
| 18:51.43 | Shadowed | lies |
| 18:51.45 | Beladona | delete that |
| 18:51.51 | Beladona | will reset your chat settings though |
| 18:52.06 | Kirkburn|Vista | jaxdahl, yup, instant |
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| 18:52.23 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:52.29 | leech___ | howdy ck |
| 18:52.41 | Aenslaed | Beladona: ok. As long as it all stops disappearing |
| 18:52.47 | Plorkyeran | I guess it's a nice change if you're actually abandoning the quest |
| 18:52.52 | cogwheel | leech___: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 18:52.59 | cogwheel | UnitIsPlayer |
| 18:53.04 | Aenslaed | Beladona: strange thing is it happens to both of my characters |
| 18:53.05 | Plorkyeran | And only a problem if you're trying to work around the quest log limit |
| 18:53.17 | Beladona | you sure it isn't an addon doing it? |
| 18:54.18 | Beladona | does it remove items you collect FOR the quest? |
| 18:54.21 | Aenslaed | Beladona: I dont think so. Fubar, Perl, Itemrack, CT raid, SCT, Enemycastbars |
| 18:54.33 | Beladona | or just items you got as part of the quest |
| 18:55.06 | leech___ | cogwheel: Thanks. That function doesn't seem very useful for what I am doing. I have the unit's in game name but nots its UnitID |
| 18:55.40 | cogwheel | leech___: look at unitID on wowwiki |
| 18:55.48 | cogwheel | they are limited on purpose |
| 18:56.18 | Beladona | omg |
| 18:56.19 | malreth | firefox 2 rc1 is out |
| 18:56.22 | cogwheel | Targetting them is about the only way to "create" a unitID, and that's not always possible to do |
| 18:56.32 | Beladona | my server is one of the ones down until midnight PDT |
| 18:56.37 | Beladona | jerks |
| 18:56.47 | cogwheel | Beladona: you just noticed? XD |
| 18:56.56 | Beladona | um, well, work does that to ya |
| 18:57.00 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 18:57.01 | Plorkyeran | Hmm, it seems to either not be enabled or destroying items given by the quest |
| 18:57.17 | Plorkyeran | I just abandoned a quest that I had items for and it didn't do anything to them |
| 18:57.20 | leech___ | cogwheel: That is what I am afraid of. I wrote a simple mod that lets you know if you got the killing blow. But targeting is not always involved. |
| 18:57.25 | Beladona | good thing I already recorded my friends list |
| 18:57.37 | cogwheel | Plorkyeran: maybe it'll change in the next patch and they're just preparing the UI for it... |
| 18:58.19 | Plorkyeran | err, wait |
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| 18:58.26 | Beladona | it could still be items that you get when starting the quest |
| 18:58.29 | Plorkyeran | I think it actually deleted the items without using the new prompt |
| 18:58.36 | Beladona | i.e. an item you click |
| 18:58.44 | Beladona | or something to that effect |
| 18:58.51 | Plorkyeran | Yeah, it did |
| 18:58.57 | Beladona | ooh really? |
| 18:59.14 | Plorkyeran | They're no longer in my bag, at least |
| 18:59.20 | Beladona | thats not cool |
| 18:59.27 | cogwheel | Undocumented change, AND it doesn't work right? |
| 19:00.50 | Kirkburn|Vista | Sounds like something isn't connected somewhere along the line |
| 19:01.12 | malreth | Undocumented changes can work however they want to |
| 19:01.18 | Beladona | they added it in StaticPopup.lua |
| 19:01.22 | malreth | working as intended |
| 19:01.47 | cogwheel | malreth: they added code to show a confirmation |
| 19:02.02 | cogwheel | malreth: but it doesn't show up according to Plorkyeran's test |
| 19:02.03 | Plorkyeran | Yep, definatly deleting without confirming |
| 19:02.06 | malreth | no... they added a new string to the lua file... |
| 19:02.23 | Beladona | malreth: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/11215875/live/6 |
| 19:02.26 | Beladona | they did |
| 19:02.27 | malreth | i still stand by my assertation that the undocumented feature is working as intended. :) |
| 19:02.42 | DrDre | [26p 2:56pm] <malreth> firefox 2 rc1 is out |
| 19:02.42 | cogwheel | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/11215875/live/7 |
| 19:02.43 | DrDre | where |
| 19:02.54 | Mikma | ok, just in case someone likes industrial (music-style) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVimZLwmASo |
| 19:03.12 | DrDre | i did check for updates and no updates found |
| 19:03.14 | Kirkburn|Vista | Heh, who on earth would like Industrial :P He smells |
| 19:03.29 | Beladona | based on that code, one would assume GetAbandonQuestItems is returning nil regardless of there being items |
| 19:03.36 | Beladona | if it is indeed not prompting |
| 19:03.38 | DrDre | whoa thats a freaky song im listening to |
| 19:03.40 | Gryphen | RC usually dont come down by auto update |
| 19:03.52 | Mikma | DrDre: my link? :) |
| 19:04.00 | DrDre | no |
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| 19:04.04 | DrDre | trance song |
| 19:04.17 | Mikma | well try my link |
| 19:04.17 | DrDre | i got shoutcast up if u wanna hear lol |
| 19:04.35 | Mikma | oh well, sure, pm me the address |
| 19:04.36 | Kirkburn|Vista | I need opinions! I'm updating the Main Page design for the wiki - what do you think of http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kirkburn/Dev |
| 19:04.38 | Beladona | that is also a new function that needs to be documented in the wiki |
| 19:04.46 | Beladona | GetAbandonQuestItems |
| 19:05.00 | TS|Skrom | Kirkburn|Vista win |
| 19:05.03 | Plorkyeran | No, it's returning the correct value |
| 19:05.14 | Gryphen | dont like the graphic |
| 19:05.23 | Gryphen | pugly ugly |
| 19:05.35 | Kirkburn|Vista | I shoudl have mentioned the graphic is just a test |
| 19:05.44 | Kirkburn|Vista | It's the table design I'm doing :P |
| 19:05.55 | cogwheel | brb... installing FF2 |
| 19:05.58 | Plorkyeran | I wonder if it's only returning the correct value after the dialog has been displayed |
| 19:06.19 | Beladona | you do get the abandon quest dialog right? |
| 19:06.22 | Plorkyeran | Yeah |
| 19:06.27 | Beladona | but nothing about items being removed? |
| 19:06.36 | Plorkyeran | Exactly |
| 19:06.39 | Beladona | it only shows one or the other, not both |
| 19:06.55 | Gryphen | not bad otherwise kirk |
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| 19:07.41 | cogwheel | Oh good... they cleaned up the interface a bit... (the default theme under XP wasn't very well-done in Beta 2) |
| 19:08.06 | Gryphen | boo to FF |
| 19:08.07 | Kirkburn|Vista | Gryphen, thanks :) The logo is actually part of some tests Mikk is trying |
| 19:08.23 | cogwheel | Gryphen: O.o? |
| 19:08.30 | Gryphen | i that on the prop icon updates |
| 19:08.36 | Gryphen | IE ftw |
| 19:08.37 | Gryphen | die FF |
| 19:08.48 | Kirkburn|Vista | hehe, controversial! |
| 19:08.52 | Gryphen | :) |
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| 19:09.29 | Beladona | I don't know |
| 19:09.35 | Beladona | I kinda think the graphic works |
| 19:09.38 | malreth | ~whaleslap Gryphen |
| 19:09.40 | purl | ACTION beats Gryphen upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 19:09.40 | Beladona | needs some tweaks, but works |
| 19:10.02 | Kirkburn|Vista | Check the proposed icon page for more that Mikk is working on :) |
| 19:10.14 | Beladona | can anyone submit work? |
| 19:10.18 | Beladona | I made one, but didn't submit it |
| 19:10.29 | Gryphen | i dont care for it, the font is super ugly imho |
| 19:10.34 | Kirkburn|Vista | Beladona, of course! |
| 19:10.43 | Beladona | I agree Gryphen |
| 19:11.34 | Gryphen | I still like Icon 1 |
| 19:11.34 | Kirkburn|Vista | I should mention that it isn't a font, Mikk created it from scratch |
| 19:11.54 | Gryphen | It looks like scratch >:D |
| 19:14.51 | Shadowed | soooo, how hard would it be to takeover a macro on an action bar if it has a specific slash command inside? |
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| 19:16.45 | Beladona | try re-phrasing that question, I am not sure what you mean |
| 19:17.30 | kergoth | bah, wowbench loads the .toc & .lua for the addons in the order specified on the cmdline, but it doesn't seem to load the saved vars and fire ADDON_LOADED in that order, but in an arbitrary one |
| 19:17.58 | Shadowed | if you were to say, add a slash command like /useitem Heavy Runecloth bandage, if i was to make that into a macro and add it to the action bar. How would you add the amount of heavy runecloth bandages to the macro icon |
| 19:18.16 | Shadowed | basically to mimic if you were to drag heavy runecloth bandages onto the actionbar itself |
| 19:20.55 | Qzot | Hehe. I feel wickedly successful. |
| 19:22.04 | cogwheel | Qzot: ? |
| 19:23.15 | cogwheel | Shadowed: You would have to watch for inventory update events and then call :SetText on any action bar with that macro... That would involve keeping a cache of which macros have those commands and which action buttons have which macros |
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| 19:23.30 | cogwheel | s/action bar/action button/ |
| 19:23.47 | Shadowed | hmm |
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| 19:24.02 | Shadowed | only way to really do it is scanning the content of the buttons then? |
| 19:24.41 | Legorol | i beleive the difficult part would be detecting *what* action does a button point to |
| 19:24.50 | Legorol | there is no way to ask: "hey, Mr. action button 12, what is your action?" |
| 19:25.00 | Legorol | so you won't know which macro has been dropped in there |
| 19:25.25 | Legorol | you have to use different logic: you have to intercept things *as* a macro is dropped into an action bar |
| 19:25.34 | cogwheel | yeah... that would probably take tooltip scanning |
| 19:25.53 | Shadowed | you couldn't check it with tooltip scanning, could only find out if it's a macro or not |
| 19:25.54 | cogwheel | or... i wonder how Learn2Spell works... |
| 19:26.01 | cogwheel | Shadowed: true |
| 19:26.14 | Legorol | doesn't the tooltip for an action button that has a macro contain the name of the macro? |
| 19:26.25 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 19:26.38 | Shadowed | if you have the same name/icon it'll break though |
| 19:26.39 | Legorol | so except in the case where user names two macros the same, you can tell |
| 19:26.47 | Legorol | yes exactly |
| 19:26.56 | Legorol | but there is not much you can do about that if you just simply look at the action buttons |
| 19:27.29 | Shadowed | was hoping there was a cleaner way to do it, but guess thats how i'll have to do it ;/ |
| 19:27.33 | Shadowed | :/* |
| 19:36.22 | Legorol | one thing you could do: |
| 19:36.22 | Legorol | hook into PickupMacro to detect when user starts dragging a macro icon, and hook into PlaceAction |
| 19:36.23 | Legorol | the only tricky part is to notice if something else happens between the two |
| 19:36.23 | Shadowed | less chance of someone using the same icon/text over somebody changing it between two computers though |
| 19:36.24 | Legorol | true |
| 19:36.24 | Legorol | i'd say if someone uses same icon AND name, unlucky for them |
| 19:36.24 | Shadowed | oh well, will have to go with that. thanks |
| 19:36.24 | cogwheel | you'd also want to hook ClearCursor() in case the user doesn't actually place the macro |
| 19:36.30 | cogwheel | Also, this won't work for any macros that already exist on the bar, so you'll have to use saved variables |
| 19:36.31 | Legorol | yeah so overall it's better to scan action tooltips for macros |
| 19:36.31 | Shadowed | you shouldn't need to hook clearcursor and such |
| 19:36.32 | Shadowed | Pretty sure the API lets us get the macro text/icon/command? |
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| 19:36.33 | Shadowed | hanv't worked with the macro API yet though |
| 19:36.34 | Shadowed | Although, scanning all action bars on ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED would be more annoying then registering pickup/clear/drop |
| 19:36.35 | Shadowed | er ignore that, forgot that it passes the ID of what changed |
| 19:40.29 | fatbrain | warla: Reason I asked (yesterday) is that we'r working on something similar. |
| 19:41.22 | Aenslaed | Does anyone know how to fix the bug where all your chat windows but general disappear? |
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| 19:44.52 | zenzelezz | think it's a known problem |
| 19:46.50 | cogwheel | one they haven't fixed for about 3 patches (major and minor) |
| 19:47.21 | Aenslaed | ah, ok |
| 19:47.23 | Aenslaed | so its not just me. |
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| 19:47.47 | Aenslaed | know of any mods I can use to temporarily fix the problem? |
| 19:50.52 | Cair | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381215&sid=1 |
| 19:50.56 | Cair | very top of the thread |
| 19:51.50 | Aenslaed | ah, ok. |
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| 19:52.23 | Aenslaed | so if i had the general window, combat window and one other window, I'd just do /script ChatFrame2:Show() /script Chatframe3:Show(); ? |
| 19:52.41 | Cair | first try turning off "auto join guild channel" |
| 19:52.56 | Cair | then if it still happens, then yeah |
| 19:52.57 | Aenslaed | its off :) |
| 19:53.42 | Aenslaed | Cair: thanks for the help |
| 19:58.30 | cogwheel | if i do something like: foo(Table:Function) will it create the proper closure and pass it to the function? |
| 19:58.31 | Cair | np |
| 19:59.40 | krka | cogwheel: you can't do something like that |
| 19:59.42 | krka | it's invalid syntax |
| 19:59.48 | cogwheel | ok |
| 19:59.55 | krka | ':' can only be used for defining functions and calling functions |
| 20:00.20 | kergoth | you're probably thinking of foo(function() Table:Function() end) or so |
| 20:00.53 | cogwheel | kergoth: i know that i can do it that way... i was just hoping for a shortcut :) |
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| 20:01.26 | kergoth | why? |
| 20:01.34 | kergoth | if you're going to create a closure, create a closure |
| 20:01.37 | cogwheel | looks cleaner |
| 20:01.50 | kergoth | i'd rather see whats actually happening, not try to hide it behind syntactic sugar |
| 20:02.20 | cogwheel | kergoth: sounds like you do t["hello"] instead of t.hello ;) |
| 20:03.40 | kergoth | t.hello doesnt hide anything. '.' is still an index operator. : is not a closure constructor. |
| 20:03.47 | kergoth | come back with a good example, mmk thanks |
| 20:04.20 | Qzot | Ouch. 30g just to put my auctions up. |
| 20:04.58 | kergoth | ouch indeed |
| 20:05.03 | kergoth | must be some good stuff |
| 20:05.12 | Qzot | Spent myself down to 14s. :( |
| 20:05.18 | Qzot | Yeah. I collect epics. :P |
| 20:05.44 | Qzot | ...and store them on the AH. |
| 20:05.53 | cladhaire | want to sell my [Hand of Edward the Odd] for meh? |
| 20:06.22 | Qzot | Sure. If you can get it to me. |
| 20:07.11 | cladhaire | he |
| 20:07.11 | cladhaire | heh |
| 20:07.25 | cladhaire | its on stormrage.. i need to xfer it to alliance side.. it'd have a better chance of selling over there. |
| 20:07.49 | JoshBorke | you have a 60 on both sides on the same server? |
| 20:09.49 | warla | heh |
| 20:09.57 | warla | i fount that hammer like 1.5 years ago |
| 20:10.00 | warla | in EPL |
| 20:10.04 | warla | i use it on my druid |
| 20:10.07 | warla | its rather fun mace |
| 20:10.16 | warla | did you know you can instantcast pick herbs when it procs? |
| 20:10.21 | warla | in combat herbing FTW |
| 20:10.31 | warla | also instantcast heartstone works |
| 20:10.37 | warla | i fled many fights like that |
| 20:10.43 | kergoth | hah |
| 20:10.53 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 20:10.56 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: yes i do |
| 20:11.01 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: almost 4 60's on that server |
| 20:11.04 | warla | whack - whack - heartstone |
| 20:12.52 | cladhaire | and it should proc in feral form now, no? |
| 20:13.36 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/TODO.wowbench .. this todo is growing fast :\ |
| 20:14.14 | Qzot | Edward procs in feral???? |
| 20:14.31 | warla | dunno |
| 20:14.35 | cladhaire | Qzot: I dunno, didn't they make procs happen in feral recently? |
| 20:14.36 | warla | i'm not fereal |
| 20:14.50 | warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=2 <-- my drood |
| 20:14.55 | Kirov | feral warlock! |
| 20:15.03 | warla | in burning crusade i'll be a tree |
| 20:15.07 | cladhaire | gimme ur addon, and i'll upload mine =) |
| 20:15.10 | warla | all i need todo is have a lot spirit and look pretty |
| 20:15.20 | cladhaire | my druid is ghetto.. but works well |
| 20:15.31 | warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/wowprofiles.html <-- heres the addon |
| 20:15.37 | warla | but its still very buggy lol |
| 20:15.56 | warla | if you get error messages.. just click reload and try again usually fixes probs lol |
| 20:16.03 | cladhaire | haha |
| 20:16.07 | warla | ^^ |
| 20:16.32 | Kirov | When ever resto druids try and roll on +crit +attack power stuff for their "feral set" I always say "ok, I'll just roll on that +nature gear for my sting set" |
| 20:16.41 | warla | Kirov... |
| 20:16.51 | warla | i always have disputes with our Warriors |
| 20:16.57 | warla | because i bid dkp on tank stuff |
| 20:17.03 | Beladona | as a druid? |
| 20:17.05 | warla | no |
| 20:17.07 | warla | as a warlock |
| 20:17.10 | Xuerian | Zing. |
| 20:17.12 | Beladona | wha? |
| 20:17.14 | cladhaire | Kirov: All balance druids should be shot. |
| 20:17.25 | Kirov | cladhaire hehe |
| 20:17.29 | Beladona | just to be a dork? |
| 20:17.35 | warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=1 <-- my warlock.... look into bags / bank for my tank gear |
| 20:17.38 | warla | stuff like |
| 20:17.43 | warla | - heavy dark iron ring |
| 20:17.50 | warla | - medallion of steadfast might |
| 20:17.53 | Beladona | you and I would have fun with each other |
| 20:17.58 | warla | - bloodlords defender |
| 20:18.06 | warla | e.t.c |
| 20:18.09 | warla | i got it all ^^ |
| 20:18.21 | warla | i tanked quite a few MC bosses in my tank gear |
| 20:18.30 | Beladona | Myrmidon's Signet? |
| 20:18.39 | warla | 6800 armor raid buffed, 19% dodge, 10% physical absorb from MD and soullink |
| 20:18.45 | warla | ya myrmidon i have too |
| 20:18.50 | cladhaire | my rogue has [Medallion of Steadfast Might] |
| 20:18.54 | Beladona | regardless, I would never let a warlock in my raid do that |
| 20:19.04 | warla | do what? |
| 20:19.06 | warla | tank a boss |
| 20:19.08 | warla | or take loot? |
| 20:19.12 | Beladona | take tank gear from a tank |
| 20:19.12 | Xuerian | I admire the raid that has enough faith in their members to do that |
| 20:19.23 | warla | hey i tanked them successfully :-) |
| 20:19.32 | Beladona | but then, I am a tank |
| 20:19.33 | warla | lucifron hits me for 450 normal hits |
| 20:19.34 | Beladona | so I am biased |
| 20:19.35 | warla | 900 crits |
| 20:19.41 | warla | makes me a nice sub-par tank |
| 20:19.48 | Beladona | thats not the point though warla |
| 20:19.53 | warla | and aggro wise noone beats a lock ^^ |
| 20:20.02 | Beladona | its great that you CAN |
| 20:20.04 | Beladona | lol |
| 20:20.35 | Beladona | but if I saw a warlock win some of that stuff over a warrior, I would be putting a hit out |
| 20:20.41 | warla | why? |
| 20:20.46 | warla | if i have more dkp i deserve it more ^^ |
| 20:36.29 | malreth | our raid org has loot priority lists. |
| 20:36.30 | warla | beside i'll use that gear to farm |
| 20:36.30 | Xuerian | Warriors are territorial :P |
| 20:36.30 | warla | farm = more stuff for guild |
| 20:36.30 | warla | we luckily have no retarded priority list |
| 20:36.30 | warla | we use common sense |
| 20:36.30 | malreth | warla: there's no 'I' in 'team' |
| 20:36.30 | malreth | nothing retarded about priority lists |
| 20:36.30 | warla | i'd never dare grabbing useful tank gear from MTs |
| 20:36.31 | warla | but thats it |
| 20:36.31 | warla | as soon as the MTs are geared i have no trouble bidding dkp on gear i want |
| 20:36.31 | Beladona | I don't think its right to take an item that would be used as a primary item from the class that can use it |
| 20:36.31 | Beladona | regardless of what you LIKE to do |
| 20:36.31 | Beladona | and yes, we use loot priority lists too |
| 20:36.31 | Beladona | SK for the win |
| 20:36.31 | warla | well beladona lets do a quick comparison |
| 20:36.31 | warla | heavy dark iron ring |
| 20:36.31 | warla | when does a tank use that |
| 20:36.32 | warla | when they raid... specifically... tank |
| 20:36.32 | warla | when does a warlock use heavy dark iron ring? |
| 20:36.32 | Kirov | Broodlord |
| 20:36.32 | warla | outside raids when they farm stuff |
| 20:36.32 | warla | so i definitely use that item more hours than a tank would :-) |
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| 20:36.35 | malreth | from the perspective of the raid organization, loot distribution should benefit the raid... not the individual |
| 20:36.35 | warla | it does benefit the raid more than the tank would |
| 20:36.35 | warla | i go and farm mats for raiding :-) |
| 20:36.35 | warla | a ton mats |
| 20:36.35 | warla | more than any warr ever could farm ;-( |
| 20:36.35 | malreth | that's an indirect benefit if even that |
| 20:36.36 | warla | jup |
| 20:36.36 | cladhaire | warla: http://www.wowledgebase.com/index.php?id=24 |
| 20:36.36 | warla | checking :-) |
| 20:36.36 | warla | thats the druid? |
| 20:36.36 | Xuerian | malreth: When was the last time you saw healers go without stacks of top mana pots? |
| 20:36.36 | malreth | i could say that my mage could benefit from any class-specific BoE tier set pieces since I can AH them for money that could be used for flasks, etc |
| 20:36.37 | malreth | it benefits the raid, yes |
| 20:36.38 | warla | if your the GM sure.. you can AH them for pots thats what guild masters do |
| 20:36.38 | warla | if your not the GM why would they pass it to you ;-) |
| 20:36.38 | malreth | but there's also the direct benefit from gearing up your members first |
| 20:36.38 | warla | since they can AH them themself |
| 20:36.38 | cladhaire | Whoa.. do I really only have 2 quests in my questbook? |
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| 20:36.39 | Xuerian | Warla: What instance is your guild in, and which are on farm status? |
| 20:36.39 | malreth | priority lists take that idea and put it down as a set of rules |
| 20:36.39 | warla | MC on farm (well barely doing it anymore) |
| 20:36.39 | warla | BWL on farm |
| 20:36.40 | warla | AQ40 up to huhu (twin emps not down yet) |
| 20:36.41 | warla | Naxx (Anub Rhekan) |
| 20:36.41 | Xuerian | So.... If a guild has MC on farm status... |
| 20:36.41 | Xuerian | What tank is going to give half a shit about a dark iron ring :) |
| 20:36.41 | warla | actually MC more or less abandoned |
| 20:36.42 | malreth | Xuerian: correct |
| 20:36.42 | Xuerian | A druid would, or in this case, a tanking lock would... |
| 20:36.42 | warla | dark iron ring is still kickass even compared to BWL / AQ40 gear |
| 20:36.42 | warla | ideally you'd want: |
| 20:36.42 | warla | heavy dark iron + Twin emps ring |
| 20:36.43 | warla | an alternative is the Tank ring from Nef... but that one i do not like much |
| 20:36.43 | malreth | Heavy Dark Iron Ring: Warrior > Druid/Paladin > Everyone (that's my raid org's priority for that item) |
| 20:36.43 | warla | pally? |
| 20:36.44 | warla | they heal ^^ |
| 20:36.44 | warla | i think even a lock benefits more than a pally from that hehe |
| 20:36.44 | malreth | warlocks DPS and don't tank |
| 20:36.45 | warla | we dps... then tank.. because we pulled aggro ^^ |
| 20:36.45 | malreth | if you were in our raid org, you'd petition to your CL to have warlocks moved up in priority for that item |
| 20:36.45 | warla | on a side note... most locks give a fuck about that item |
| 20:36.45 | malreth | if your CL thought the same, he/she'd pass it up to our governance board and it'd get voted on |
| 20:36.45 | warla | its indeed only usefull for like 2-3 locks per realm |
| 20:36.46 | warla | that enjoy testing their class to all limits |
| 20:36.46 | Xuerian | Governance board? 0_o |
| 20:36.46 | malreth | Xuerian: when I say Raiding Organization... i mean it |
| 20:36.46 | warla | on my realm i often get asked by PuGs to tank various instances... |
| 20:36.46 | warla | LBRS / UBRS / Scholo / Strat |
| 20:36.46 | malreth | we're a conglomeration of several guilds on our server |
| 20:36.46 | warla | i tanked em all |
| 20:36.47 | Xuerian | Well, malreth, I respect your guild's organization but I could never play in it |
| 20:36.47 | malreth | it's not my guild |
| 20:36.47 | dukeku | warla \o/ |
| 20:36.47 | Xuerian | s/your guild/the guild you have been discussing/ |
| 20:36.47 | malreth | Xuerian: i'm curious... why? |
| 20:36.47 | dukeku | warla: are you still on dmaw or did you transfer? |
| 20:36.48 | warla | still on dmaw |
| 20:36.49 | dukeku | ahh |
| 20:36.49 | dukeku | everyone left =( |
| 20:36.49 | warla | ya |
| 20:36.49 | warla | indeed |
| 20:36.49 | warla | unity dead |
| 20:36.49 | Xuerian | Because I play for fun, and being told what, when, how, why to do and not do, is not what fulfills that desire for me. It's completely personal preference, but if I wanted to join the millitary I'd follow my cousins :) |
| 20:36.49 | dukeku | haha really? |
| 20:36.49 | warla | so many guild fell apart |
| 20:36.50 | warla | ya |
| 20:36.50 | dukeku | so i can say unity disbanded with all serious now |
| 20:36.50 | dukeku | cool |
| 20:36.50 | warla | basically the 2 top guilds that absorbed most are |
| 20:36.50 | Xuerian | (To a point it's good, without organization any raid falls apart, but i mean to extremes.) |
| 20:36.50 | dukeku | whats still left? |
| 20:36.50 | warla | blitzkrieg and prom |
| 20:36.50 | warla | those are top 2 |
| 20:36.50 | dukeku | is sov still around? |
| 20:36.50 | warla | then some less hardcore ones like moonshade / alextrasza dragonriders |
| 20:36.50 | malreth | Xuerian: Silver Hand Raiders Alliance (SHRa) actually has as it's chief virtue of being as flexible as possible |
| 20:36.50 | warla | ya sov still there but always strugling |
| 20:36.51 | dukeku | lol alexstrasza dragon riders |
| 20:36.51 | kaiden | So i wonder how guilds will function after the expansion with no more new 40 man content, like my guild it's hard to ever find anyone on unless it's an mc/bwl night |
| 20:36.51 | malreth | Xuerian: we don't dictate playstyles or specs or talent builds |
| 20:36.51 | dukeku | warla: probably because all of their good players left or quit @@ |
| 20:36.51 | warla | lol ya |
| 20:36.51 | warla | thats my point |
| 20:36.52 | dukeku | im surprised they havent disbanded |
| 20:36.53 | warla | and moonshade recruited 1-2 sov members they told me the GM is a fuck an a lunatic |
| 20:36.53 | malreth | and while there is a loot priority, it still allows alternative talent builds to obtain the equipment they desire |
| 20:36.53 | warla | gkicks people weekly |
| 20:36.54 | warla | doesnt really help the morale ^^ |
| 20:36.55 | dukeku | yea dude |
| 20:36.57 | Xuerian | malreth: I define flexible with raids that rely on trust and morale (For example, running on ffa loot in naxx) and teamwork, and talking about things in the open, than going up ranks for items :P |
| 20:36.58 | dukeku | every sov gm past gareth kinda went nutso |
| 20:36.58 | warla | lol |
| 20:36.58 | warla | well |
| 20:36.58 | dukeku | they were ok for a few weeks and boom its like someone shot some crazy into their veins |
| 20:36.59 | warla | gareth was nutso as well.. but not THAT nutso |
| 20:36.59 | warla | ;-) |
| 20:37.00 | Xuerian | Sorry. Pet peeve of mine :P |
| 20:37.00 | dukeku | i quit the game after i was threatened to be kicked because i was sarcastic in gchat a lot |
| 20:37.00 | dukeku | haha |
| 20:37.00 | warla | lol |
| 20:37.00 | dukeku | gareth was nuts but not the EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET ME RAGRHGH nuts |
| 20:37.00 | warla | Crym wasnt too bad either |
| 20:37.00 | dukeku | nah he was the worst imo |
| 20:37.00 | malreth | Xuerian: We actually could go FFA loot on a raid... each individual is vetted by their member guild (or on their own honor if they're not with a member guild) and is implicitly trusted |
| 20:37.00 | dukeku | at least from my pov |
| 20:37.00 | dukeku | total jerk |
| 20:37.01 | warla | problem with Dmaw are that most people are assholes nowadays |
| 20:37.01 | dukeku | yeah |
| 20:37.01 | dukeku | and most left =_ |
| 20:37.12 | malreth | Xuerian: all members of SHRa have a say in the organization through their representatives (Class Leaders or Advisary Board members) |
| 20:37.12 | dukeku | =P |
| 20:37.12 | warla | its not about having fun anymore and raid / play |
| 20:37.12 | warla | its more who griefs the most |
| 20:37.12 | dukeku | lol |
| 20:37.12 | warla | whos the bigges asshole e.t.c |
| 20:37.13 | dukeku | losing people like grievous |
| 20:37.13 | dukeku | those are signs man |
| 20:37.13 | warla | real sad... |
| 20:37.13 | dukeku | not that grievous was the shining beacon of dragonmaw |
| 20:37.13 | warla | lol |
| 20:37.13 | dukeku | but he was so stupid and crazy that it kinda spiced up the place |
| 20:37.13 | malreth | but yeah, SHRa trusts all of our members implictly |
| 20:37.13 | warla | hes the example why kids shouldnt do drugs... |
| 20:37.13 | dukeku | haha |
| 20:37.14 | Xuerian | haha, a lil late purl :P |
| 20:37.14 | dukeku | warla: he sells hardwood floors, i think its the fumes from the wood finish |
| 20:37.20 | warla | yea i guessed as much.. i knew hes smoking stuff i propably cannt even afford |
| 20:37.36 | dukeku | haha yeah his dad owns some gigantic company |
| 20:37.39 | warla | heh |
| 20:37.42 | dukeku | i doubt hes in any sort of financial trouble irl |
| 20:38.13 | malreth | Xuerian: not like i'm trying to sell you on our org... but I am very enthusiastic about what we've created |
| 20:38.14 | Xuerian | Anyway, malreth: Why I said it was personal is I can't stand strict organization. I don't see anything truly wrong with it. Thus I could never personally play in a guild like that myself. |
| 20:38.14 | dukeku | i have a feeling all of the 2nd day servers like dmaw were kinda doomed |
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| 20:38.20 | malreth | Xuerian: rememeber... it's not a guild |
| 20:38.26 | dukeku | all of the servers made on release day still seem to be doing fine but the ones made the day after are kinda busted |
| 20:38.30 | Xuerian | malreth: I know, but you know what I'm talking about. |
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| 20:38.34 | dukeku | maybe i'm crazy though i dunno |
| 20:38.52 | Xuerian | malreth: guild is the easiest thing to say. I'm in a raiding alliance in my own guild. |
| 20:38.57 | warla | i miss the old days |
| 20:39.02 | warla | where not many 60s were around |
| 20:39.05 | warla | people knew each other |
| 20:39.13 | warla | and were actually helpful and kind to each other |
| 20:39.26 | warla | not like now where everyone is a bitch... guild dramas all day long and crap |
| 20:39.30 | malreth | Ah... How are things run there, Xuerian? |
| 20:39.38 | dukeku | yea |
| 20:39.46 | dukeku | i remember begging your crazy ass for engineering info |
| 20:40.11 | warla | heh ya |
| 20:40.19 | warla | at the moment i'm master engineer |
| 20:40.24 | warla | all schematics in the game :-) |
| 20:40.39 | warla | also master cook ;-) all recipes including horde only ones |
| 20:40.48 | warla | just tailor i'm not :-/ |
| 20:40.52 | warla | 1 stupid pattern missing |
| 20:40.59 | Xuerian | Zero-sum DKP on all raids (separate for each guild's 20-man's, 40's unified), anyone can bid on anything unless there's general uproar or it's completely useless, and hierarchy is pretty much whoever's leading the raid that day, the people who are vets (by time and experience not by set rank) and such |
| 20:41.12 | warla | http://www.wowledgebase.com/?id=1 <-- go to tailoring and scroll down the list to the end |
| 20:41.17 | warla | and you'll see which one i miss lol |
| 20:41.31 | Kirkburn|Vista | How is that possible? Some sites already ahve the EU 1.12.1 patches |
| 20:41.50 | Gryphen | open the downloader? |
| 20:42.03 | dukeku | wereHamster: one sec |
| 20:42.09 | Gryphen | http sources from bliz? |
| 20:42.12 | malreth | ah... we also use 0-sum with separate DBs for each 40-man raid (Ony and MC are combined, however)... |
| 20:42.12 | warla | heh |
| 20:42.31 | dukeku | warla: http://games.theteamkillers.net/wow/WoWScrnShot_121404_144203.jpg |
| 20:42.49 | warla | OMG |
| 20:42.52 | warla | thats WAY OLD |
| 20:43.00 | dukeku | yeah you were like lvl 46 |
| 20:43.03 | warla | lol ya |
| 20:43.05 | malreth | i'm lv 46 |
| 20:43.08 | warla | haha |
| 20:43.11 | warla | good old times ^^ |
| 20:43.28 | dukeku | warla: i got all of the cooking recipies that didnt require rep before i quit |
| 20:43.38 | Xuerian | Hm, I'm actually not sure if each 40 is separate for us, I only go to MC due to dialup and crappy computer. We're clearing BWL and getting through aq40 now though. It's the general feeling of being a group of friends getting together to have fun and kill shit that I like =) |
| 20:43.40 | dukeku | i always wanted to get one of the kodo leather bag patterns though |
| 20:43.42 | dukeku | but i never did =( |
| 20:43.49 | warla | heh thats horde only as well :-) |
| 20:43.56 | Kirkburn|Vista | Gryphon: http://www.zomg.biz/download/files.php?cat=3 |
| 20:43.59 | dukeku | not when i wanted it! |
| 20:44.03 | dukeku | it wasnt soulbound |
| 20:44.04 | malreth | Xuerian: yep... that's the real joy of raiding. |
| 20:44.12 | dukeku | so people could sell it on the horde side for leatherworkers |
| 20:44.25 | dukeku | a few quest rewards were like that until they made them all bnop |
| 20:44.26 | dukeku | bop |
| 20:44.31 | warla | its soulbound now? |
| 20:44.33 | dukeku | like flash bundles and marbles |
| 20:44.34 | warla | omg :-/ |
| 20:44.35 | dukeku | might be |
| 20:44.43 | dukeku | lets see |
| 20:45.11 | dukeku | nope! |
| 20:45.13 | Xuerian | Heh, agreed malreth :P |
| 20:45.24 | dukeku | convince some horde to get it for you, lvl 10 quest |
| 20:45.27 | malreth | Xuerian: is your raid alliance mostly friends and friends of friends? |
| 20:45.33 | dukeku | only leatherworking bag pattern around |
| 20:45.43 | Xuerian | It's two guilds, and we're all more or less friends |
| 20:46.04 | malreth | yeah... we started off that way but grew to become a server-wide thing... |
| 20:46.10 | Xuerian | Not RL, but through the game, we have a lot of people that have been on the same chars on the same server since release day |
| 20:46.13 | wereHamster | dukeku, why one sec? |
| 20:46.19 | malreth | we're not as big as Leftovers on Silver Hand... they're huge |
| 20:46.46 | malreth | we wanted the idea behind Leftovers (another multi-guild raid org) but with a smaller casual environment |
| 20:46.47 | dukeku | wereHamster: fucked up a tab complete, sorry =( |
| 20:47.13 | Xuerian | Ahhh |
| 20:47.32 | Xuerian | Well it sounds good, I think the military reminicence of the ranks is what threw me off.... =P |
| 20:47.41 | malreth | no ranks in the org... |
| 20:47.49 | malreth | but we need people to make decisions |
| 20:48.12 | malreth | well, i guess that is a rank |
| 20:48.18 | malreth | heh |
| 20:48.25 | Xuerian | :P |
| 20:48.41 | malreth | but yeah, a structure is necessary to have a defined mechanism for decision making |
| 20:48.57 | Xuerian | With a organization that size, I fully agree :) |
| 20:49.12 | malreth | most people don't care... they just want to kill Nef every week |
| 20:49.18 | malreth | and have fun while trying |
| 20:49.33 | Xuerian | lol |
| 20:50.24 | malreth | but we have very little loot drama now under this structure, and we continue to progress through the raid dungeons |
| 20:50.36 | malreth | we finally killed Sartura last night... that was a blast |
| 20:51.07 | warla | so many people are afraid using my profiler stuff at the moment "ZOMG KEYLOGGER HE STEALZ MY ACCOUNZ" |
| 20:51.20 | malreth | warla: groupthink |
| 20:51.25 | grr | warla no wonder realy with the amount of stuff like that is floating around. |
| 20:51.30 | grr | not saying it is a kyelogger, etc. |
| 20:51.39 | grr | but blizzard even warns about it ont he loginscreen ffs ;< |
| 20:51.40 | warla | lol how could it be... |
| 20:51.43 | warla | its a friggin mod |
| 20:51.48 | grr | warla: yes but people are stupid. |
| 20:51.49 | warla | no executeable |
| 20:52.34 | warla | i bet half the people that got hacked were stupid and shared their account info with someone |
| 20:52.55 | warla | the other half is stupid and uses IE with actcrapX enabled |
| 20:52.57 | Xuerian | malreth: Haha, grats =) |
| 20:53.35 | Gryphen | i <3 activex |
| 20:53.36 | warla | malreth satura is cool :-) fankriss is free lewtz... once satura is down fag-kriss dies soon after |
| 20:53.48 | malreth | apparently we've found that we have greater luck cracking a boss by singing before the encounter |
| 20:53.49 | warla | Gryphen the keylogg guys love ActiveX too |
| 20:53.58 | grr | warla: imho sartura is easier then fankriss ;P |
| 20:54.03 | warla | not really |
| 20:54.07 | grr | well imho he is |
| 20:54.08 | malreth | well, we'll find out now |
| 20:54.08 | grr | so |
| 20:54.09 | Gryphen | anti-ie love it too |
| 20:54.12 | warla | b.t.w |
| 20:54.16 | Xuerian | Singing? lol, well, that does sound a little more like AoE |
| 20:54.25 | warla | if you want a nice trick for satura that makes the fight heaps easier.... |
| 20:54.30 | warla | have a lock summon a doomguard |
| 20:54.32 | malreth | warla: do tell |
| 20:54.36 | warla | and keep sakura crippled |
| 20:54.47 | malreth | serious? |
| 20:54.51 | warla | 40% attack speed reduction and 45% movement speed reduction |
| 20:56.01 | warla | = she gets HEAPS easy |
| 20:56.02 | malreth | heh |
| 20:56.02 | warla | shes not immune to cripple :-) |
| 20:56.02 | warla | doomy can cripple her |
| 20:56.02 | malreth | i'll be sure to mention it |
| 20:56.02 | malreth | doomguards... don't those guys go rampant? |
| 20:56.02 | warla | after couple mins ya |
| 20:56.02 | warla | but who cares |
| 20:56.02 | warla | just reenslave |
| 20:56.03 | warla | and when he gets a burden kill |
| 20:56.03 | warla | doomy sucks |
| 20:56.03 | warla | if your in AQ4 your gear is superior |
| 20:56.03 | malreth | ok then |
| 20:56.03 | warla | doesnt make him a threat to anyone |
| 20:56.29 | warla | when the lock doesnt want doomy anymore just kill him and summon an inp to shoot at her |
| 20:56.54 | malreth | we finally worked out a pulling strategy that works for us... we were able to kill all the adds really quickly with only 6 deaths last night... Sartura was cake at that point |
| 20:56.57 | warla | also you need to have a lock that made the doomguard quest |
| 20:57.02 | warla | so you can summon them at will |
| 20:57.23 | warla | malreth the doomy you use for exactly that time.. to get down adds |
| 20:57.28 | Kirov | summon them at will? |
| 20:57.29 | warla | sakura moves slower and hits fewer |
| 20:57.31 | warla | ya |
| 20:57.36 | warla | ritual of doom |
| 20:57.40 | warla | kill a guildie for a doomy |
| 20:57.48 | warla | so when everyone buffed up and ready to go |
| 20:57.52 | warla | you summon doomy |
| 20:57.54 | warla | it kills a party member |
| 20:58.02 | warla | you rez him rebuff him and go |
| 20:58.05 | warla | you cannt waste time |
| 20:58.11 | warla | max you have him enslaved is 5 mins |
| 20:58.26 | warla | then you reenslave him 2-3 times til you kill him |
| 20:58.36 | Kirkburn|Vista | You like short sentences, don't you? :P |
| 20:58.38 | warla | but thats enough time to get adds down and make sakura heaps easy that time |
| 20:58.42 | warla | lol ya |
| 20:58.52 | warla | <-- not native english speaking ;-) |
| 20:59.10 | Kirov | warla - do you need to heal the doomguard? |
| 20:59.14 | warla | nope |
| 20:59.26 | warla | you turn off rain of fire auto cast |
| 20:59.31 | warla | put him on passive |
| 20:59.36 | warla | then you can click on sakura |
| 20:59.40 | warla | click on the spell cripple |
| 20:59.52 | warla | now doomguard starts running towards her |
| 20:59.57 | warla | when hes in range casts cripple |
| 21:00.04 | warla | and returns back to you automatically |
| 21:00.21 | warla | but you need to put him passive and turn off autocast of rain of fire after each enslave |
| 21:00.26 | warla | else he goes after sakura melee range |
| 21:00.35 | warla | we both known what she does to him then ^^ |
| 21:00.52 | warla | cripple has like 30 yards |
| 21:01.04 | warla | so when he only runs in range to cast and returns it works seet as hell |
| 21:02.13 | malreth | seet? |
| 21:02.25 | warla | sweet |
| 21:03.17 | malreth | :) |
| 21:05.54 | malreth | this strat... does it work better if a gnome is sacrificed to summon the demon? |
| 21:06.52 | Cide | all strats work better when dead gnomes are involved |
| 21:07.19 | malreth | :) |
| 21:07.25 | malreth | ok... gotta go. later all |
| 21:07.56 | fatbrain | This is driving me mad, ## Title: |cXXXXXX Addon-name|r v1.0 any ideas to why that makes my addon not to be listed in the addon-window? |
| 21:07.57 | warla | malreth... doomy doesnt like gnomes |
| 21:08.03 | warla | he always takes a NE priest |
| 21:08.05 | warla | i swear |
| 21:08.07 | fatbrain | If I write crap before the |cXXXXX then it works. |
| 21:08.11 | warla | last 4 weeks he took the same priest |
| 21:08.21 | Mikma | fatbrain: 2 spaces? |
| 21:08.23 | Cide | fatbrain: sounds like a parser error |
| 21:08.25 | fatbrain | I usually dont put color-stuff in the Title, because I think it's ugly |
| 21:08.34 | fatbrain | Mikma: tried two-spaces already, didn't change anything. |
| 21:08.38 | fatbrain | (if you meant at the start) |
| 21:08.39 | Cide | tab? :) |
| 21:08.45 | fatbrain | tab.... eww |
| 21:08.48 | fatbrain | You think so? |
| 21:08.54 | Cide | assuming it gets printed |
| 21:08.55 | fatbrain | well, I'm almost up to try anything |
| 21:09.11 | Mikma | fatbrain: i mean, try removing the other spacem like: ## Title: |cXXXXXXAddon-name|r v1.0 |
| 21:09.11 | Legorol | so, those of you in-game already |
| 21:09.14 | fatbrain | Cide: elaborate-. |
| 21:09.15 | Legorol | what's the new price of AV mount? |
| 21:09.25 | Cide | fatbrain: try tab and see if it gets printed or not |
| 21:09.26 | fatbrain | Mikma: I'll try that |
| 21:09.44 | fatbrain | problem is I detest tabs, my editor doesnt even allow me to input tab-char. |
| 21:09.57 | Cide | try \124cXXXX... also |
| 21:10.03 | Cide | not that I think it'll work, but it's worth a shot |
| 21:10.13 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mery (n=metelman@p54AEDDFA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:10.18 | Cide | that is, ## Title: \124cXXXXXXAddon-name\124r v1.0 |
| 21:10.48 | fatbrain | Cide: Yes, that sounds like a *better* approach. |
| 21:12.19 | fatbrain | nope |
| 21:12.29 | fatbrain | let me try some tweaks, bbiab. |
| 21:13.03 | Legorol | What's the new price of epic riding skill, is it 900g without discounts? |
| 21:14.53 | fatbrain | Legorol: You mean the epic mount? |
| 21:14.58 | fatbrain | It's 1000g without any discount. |
| 21:15.02 | Legorol | no, not the mount |
| 21:15.08 | Legorol | the post-patch riding skill level 150 |
| 21:15.57 | fatbrain | ermp |
| 21:16.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kirochi (i=Kirochi@84.5.177.145) |
| 21:16.30 | Kirochi | wassup |
| 21:16.30 | fatbrain | I just bought my epic mount, didn't need no crazy eipic mount skill |
| 21:17.08 | Legorol | did you see the changes the patch made to mounts ;-) |
| 21:17.11 | Kirochi | I'm sorry to bother you but I have a huge issue with WoWwiki |
| 21:17.19 | Kirochi | Kirk ? R y there ? |
| 21:17.24 | fatbrain | bah, this title thing is driving me crazy |
| 21:17.35 | nevcairiel | in the patchnotes nothing was mentioned about the mount changes, can anyone confirm that it got in ? |
| 21:17.44 | fatbrain | Legorol: no, I just read that they were gonna change the icon to reflect epic / superior. |
| 21:18.23 | Cide | ping Kirkburn|Vista |
| 21:19.16 | fatbrain | Bah, it's broken |
| 21:19.36 | fatbrain | http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=375065 <- doesn't work |
| 21:19.38 | Cide | post a minimal addon demonstrating the bug on the ui forums |
| 21:19.47 | fatbrain | if someone feel the urge to try to prove/disprove me, then please do so. |
| 21:19.57 | Cide | or, if you're not playing in the US, have someone do it for you |
| 21:20.08 | Kirochi | cide ? are you talking to me ? |
| 21:20.13 | Cide | no |
| 21:20.15 | Kirochi | k |
| 21:20.34 | JoshBorke | what's the issue again? |
| 21:21.10 | JoshBorke | you can't make the colors work on your addon title? |
| 21:21.14 | Mikma | so what about people with Epic-mount already. do they have to buy the 150+ riding-skill? |
| 21:21.23 | fatbrain | Mikma: no |
| 21:21.40 | Mikma | phew, good :) |
| 21:21.43 | Cide | the change is transparent for everyone who has a mount already |
| 21:22.09 | Mikma | how much are the new epic-mount prices? |
| 21:22.11 | fatbrain | hrm, the 1.13 patch? |
| 21:22.23 | fatbrain | or is that 1.12? cause I read that whole document without .... notecing this change. |
| 21:23.30 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/sshot_07.jpg colors arent quite right yet, but getting there |
| 21:23.35 | kergoth | (left window) |
| 21:23.45 | JoshBorke | what is that? |
| 21:24.03 | fatbrain | to me the workbench dont work |
| 21:24.07 | fatbrain | erm, wowbench. |
| 21:24.13 | fatbrain | mostly due to the fact that I'm usingn 5.1 |
| 21:24.17 | fatbrain | u fix! :P |
| 21:24.21 | kergoth | its me adding parsing of wow color formats into escape codes to display color in terminals |
| 21:24.25 | kergoth | to wowbench |
| 21:24.30 | JoshBorke | kergoth: very nice :-) |
| 21:25.14 | fatbrain | kergoth: does the cvs-wowbench conform to the changes in 5,.1? |
| 21:25.22 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:25.31 | fatbrain | erm, do you work with developign wowbench? |
| 21:25.34 | kergoth | it supports 5.0. wow is 5.0. |
| 21:25.40 | fatbrain | bc will be 5.1 iirc |
| 21:25.42 | kergoth | your own damn fault for using something that isnt supported yet |
| 21:25.47 | kergoth | yes, it will. when it is, then you can whine |
| 21:26.02 | fatbrain | bah, I like to whine |
| 21:26.12 | kergoth | i dont maintain wowbench, just adding some bits to it |
| 21:26.19 | fatbrain | rogers |
| 21:26.32 | fatbrain | I'll run my wowbench through 5.0 |
| 21:27.15 | fatbrain | Yes, I have 5.0 installed too, I would just liked it to work with 5.1 :P |
| 21:27.18 | fatbrain | </whine> |
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| 21:28.24 | Kirkburn|Vista | ping Cide |
| 21:29.13 | Cide | Kirochi wanted something but doesn't know how to ping! |
| 21:30.03 | cogwheel | and Cide apparently doesn't know how to tab-complete :P |
| 21:30.08 | Kirkburn|Vista | ping Kirochi ? :P |
| 21:30.13 | Legorol | so, ehm, can anyone in US confirm the new prices for lvl 75 and 150 riding skills? |
| 21:30.22 | Legorol | and whether they are affected by reputation and honor discounts? |
| 21:30.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | the skill itself? |
| 21:30.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | 81g for regular i think |
| 21:30.55 | Cide | cogwheel: nope, Kirochi did indeed want something |
| 21:31.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | can't really tell because i've already got it |
| 21:31.03 | Legorol | Mr_Rabies: which discounts does that include? |
| 21:31.06 | Legorol | rep, or honor, or both |
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| 21:31.15 | AnduinLothar | on the plus side i have 150 riding skill now and i never paid for it :D |
| 21:31.28 | cogwheel | O.o .... strange that Kirkburn|Vista had just pinged you when you said that... |
| 21:31.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | basically, from what i've seen, for non pvp/other bizzare mounts |
| 21:31.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | just flip the prices |
| 21:31.47 | AnduinLothar | now i need to finish my kitty grind |
| 21:31.47 | Legorol | it was 20+80 for lvl 40 before |
| 21:31.48 | cogwheel | nm |
| 21:31.50 | cogwheel | i got it... |
| 21:31.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | in the long run, you're saving money if you buy multiple mounts |
| 21:31.54 | cogwheel | scrollbar 4tw! |
| 21:31.55 | Kirkburn|Vista | =) |
| 21:31.56 | AnduinLothar | sinc ei can actually afford one now |
| 21:32.08 | Kirkburn|Vista | I'm wondering what's Kirochi wiki problem is now ... |
| 21:32.13 | cogwheel | Kirkburn|Vista: didn't say "pong" so i got confused :P |
| 21:32.26 | Kirkburn|Vista | pong cogwheel :P |
| 21:32.35 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Kevorkian (n=supervis@rrcs-70-62-123-75.midsouth.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:32.36 | Cide | yeah, Kirkburn|Vista fails too :P |
| 21:33.06 | cogwheel | Kirkburn|Vista: PlasmaPong http://home.comcast.net/~m_orlando/plasmapong.html |
| 21:33.59 | Kirkburn|Vista | Doesn't run under Vista :/ |
| 21:34.29 | cogwheel | it shouldn't |
| 21:34.36 | kaso| | So 1.12.1 is live on US now right? |
| 21:34.38 | *** join/#wowi-lounge SlackerJer (n=slackerj@slacker.ucdavis.edu) |
| 21:34.51 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 21:34.53 | cogwheel | it was written for DOS with rather hardware-specific graphics and input |
| 21:35.09 | Kirkburn|Vista | Useful that I just searched for Plasma Pong and found a newer version =) |
| 21:35.17 | cogwheel | I wrote the original one |
| 21:35.20 | kaso| | Do Epic Mounts have reputation requirements on them? |
| 21:35.30 | cogwheel | the fluid dynamic one is a cheap knock-off :P |
| 21:35.39 | AnduinLothar | can I inherit a BUtton template on a CheckButton ? |
| 21:35.43 | Kirkburn|Vista | cogwheel, aww, can I see a screenshot of yours? |
| 21:35.46 | cogwheel | (actually, they did a bang-up job, imo, so i'm not gonna gripe that they took the name) |
| 21:36.31 | cogwheel | Kirkburn|Vista: hmmm.... I might be able to dig one up... |
| 21:36.34 | Kirochi | pong |
| 21:36.46 | cogwheel | I may have to make a win98 vm to take one though :P |
| 21:37.00 | Kirkburn|Vista | lol |
| 21:37.01 | Kirochi | Can't see the the main page on wowwiki |
| 21:37.04 | Kirkburn|Vista | Hello Kirochi |
| 21:37.15 | Kirochi | hello |
| 21:37.23 | Kirkburn|Vista | What happens? |
| 21:37.34 | Kirkburn|Vista | (works fine for me) |
| 21:37.39 | Kirochi | LOl |
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| 21:37.56 | Kirochi | can I give you a screenshot of what it looks like on my pc ? |
| 21:38.19 | Gryphen | looks ok to me on ie7 and ff |
| 21:39.55 | Kirkburn|Vista | (So much for that, Plasma Pong doesn't work on Vista either) |
| 21:40.37 | Kirkburn|Vista | Yes, a screenshot might help :) |
| 21:41.33 | Kirochi | how ? |
| 21:41.41 | Kirochi | do you have MSN ? |
| 21:41.46 | Kirkburn|Vista | imageshack.us |
| 21:41.52 | Kirochi | aw, ok |
| 21:44.15 | Kirochi | http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2499/finejustfinexq7.jpg |
| 21:44.47 | JoshBorke | bye all |
| 21:44.47 | *** part/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 21:45.49 | Kirov | Kirochi - isn't that what it's supposed to look like? |
| 21:46.01 | Kirochi | xD No, not really |
| 21:46.14 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_page |
| 21:46.28 | Kirov | I mean, random <a href code on a page always gives it that little extra touch of polish |
| 21:46.29 | Kirochi | http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page |
| 21:46.32 | Kirochi | uppa case P |
| 21:46.52 | Kirov | or possibly Polish |
| 21:46.54 | Kirochi | I hate polish, for some reason I better hide |
| 21:48.42 | Kirkburn|Vista | The code is right on my end |
| 21:48.58 | Kirkburn|Vista | Have you forced a reload? Ctrl+F5 |
| 21:49.00 | nevcairiel | page looks good here too |
| 21:49.12 | Kirochi | yep, and I almost broke my keyboard |
| 21:49.27 | Kirochi | it's been like that for three days now |
| 21:49.33 | nevcairiel | which browser? |
| 21:49.39 | Kirochi | IE |
| 21:50.05 | nevcairiel | IE6 ? |
| 21:50.15 | Kirkburn|Vista | The source code is ending at that point for you, thus making the rets of the page disappear as well |
| 21:50.16 | Kirochi | ... Dunno ... should I ? |
| 21:50.19 | Kirkburn|Vista | *rest |
| 21:50.32 | Kirkburn|Vista | Shouldn't make a difference |
| 21:51.01 | Kirkburn|Vista | You could try emptying your Temporary Internet Files? |
| 21:51.10 | nevcairiel | now that you mention it, it looks like the data burst was interrupted. |
| 21:52.05 | Kirochi | => KIrk How do I do that ? |
| 21:52.15 | Corrodias | sigh. downtime. |
| 21:52.27 | AnduinLothar | This is a mite bit prettier than the previous version, no? http://www.karlkfi.com/BankManagerAlpha.jpg |
| 21:52.41 | Kirochi | done |
| 21:52.43 | Kirochi | I found |
| 21:52.58 | Kirochi | ahhhh |
| 21:53.03 | Kirochi | It works again |
| 21:53.05 | Kirochi | *bows* |
| 21:53.11 | Kirochi | *thanks* |
| 21:53.20 | b1f30_w0rk | hey all. i'm looking for some tips on how to better set up your actionbars/hotkeys. any nifty url's out there for something like that? |
| 21:54.48 | Kirochi | thankyouthankyouthankyou |
| 21:55.26 | Kirkburn|Vista | :D |
| 21:56.22 | Kirochi | I'm wondering what's Kirochi wiki problem is now ... |
| 21:56.41 | Kirochi | Does it mean I often get problems w/ WoWwiki ? |
| 21:57.20 | Kirochi | =) |
| 21:57.37 | dreyruugr | b1f30_w0rk: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5371 |
| 21:59.24 | b1f30_w0rk | dreyruugr: very interesting... looks like NWN |
| 22:01.07 | zenzelezz | dreyruugr: awesome mod =) |
| 22:02.16 | Corrodias | ... oh snap |
| 22:02.44 | Corrodias | could i set it up to show me a list of raid icons that i can assign to targets when i click on them with the middle mouse button? |
| 22:02.52 | Corrodias | and/or the target frame |
| 22:03.12 | zenzelezz | think it comes with a menu like that |
| 22:03.51 | Corrodias | shh, you |
| 22:04.13 | Corrodias | i sigh at the inefficiency of not using keybinds for it, but i am running out of keys! |
| 22:04.21 | Kirochi | Ok I'm off |
| 22:04.24 | Kirochi | Byyyyyeeee |
| 22:05.06 | zenzelezz | seems like you've had a few revisions lately drey |
| 22:05.15 | b1f30_w0rk | o_O --> http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5346-Halid's_Pro_PvP_UI.html |
| 22:05.33 | dreyruugr | zenzelezz: I update frequently |
| 22:06.10 | zenzelezz | nothing wrong about it =) I just end up wondering if I'm missing out if I don't update when that happens :-p |
| 22:06.14 | Corrodias | he's got only 3 of the action bars displayed. how do people put up with that? |
| 22:06.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119) |
| 22:06.44 | dreyruugr | zenzelezz: it's usually minor changes and bugfixes... the major features are complete at this point |
| 22:06.50 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:06.55 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 22:06.56 | dreyruugr | heya ckknight |
| 22:07.03 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 22:08.49 | Corrodias | i really, -really- need to rearrange my action bars, before i have to beat somebody out of frustration |
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| 22:10.15 | Corrodias | the default mainmenubar is just wasting too much space with its art! |
| 22:13.19 | Cairenn | just a heads up to any of you running websites |
| 22:13.27 | Cairenn | be on the lookout for posts that say "your a funny guy" or threads saying "commercials these days are dumb", they'll have smilies at the end of their posts |
| 22:13.40 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.56 | Cairenn | the fact that they are hiding the link in a smily kinda says it all, doesn't it? |
| 22:15.21 | Industrial | how can they, do they use their own smiley images? |
| 22:15.28 | Industrial | I mean the server softwre converts them |
| 22:15.42 | Industrial | from ':)' to smiley |
| 22:15.50 | Cairenn | it's a breeze to make a smilie a link |
| 22:15.56 | Industrial | o |
| 22:15.57 | Cairenn | same way you make any image a link |
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| 22:16.01 | Industrial | oh ic |
| 22:16.03 | Industrial | right' |
| 22:16.15 | Cairenn | [url=blahblah][img]img[/img][/url] |
| 22:20.19 | Legorol | Is anyone in the US able to confirm for me the new cost of the level 75 and level 150 riding skills? |
| 22:20.37 | Legorol | I have heard before it's 90g and 900g respectively, but have had no confirmation |
| 22:20.50 | cladhaire | i can give you honored. |
| 22:20.55 | cladhaire | it was 720 at revered |
| 22:21.03 | Legorol | are you a sergeant or higher? |
| 22:21.17 | cladhaire | i was rank 4 |
| 22:21.26 | Legorol | 720 with your own race? |
| 22:21.30 | cladhaire | yes |
| 22:21.44 | Legorol | ok, that's consistent with 900 |
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| 22:22.46 | Arrowmaster | 720g = 900g - 10% for honored - 10% for rank3 |
| 22:22.47 | vhaarr | Anyone know what's up with MessageFrame:AddMessages' holdTime argument? It seems to be completely ignored. |
| 22:23.00 | vhaarr | Setting it to 1 or 30 doesn't change the hold time at all. |
| 22:23.09 | vhaarr | Iriel: Is it bugged? |
| 22:23.42 | Kirov | vhaarr - what kind of message frame? |
| 22:23.48 | vhaarr | MessageFrame. |
| 22:23.59 | Kirov | not a ScrollMessageFrame? |
| 22:24.31 | vhaarr | No? |
| 22:24.40 | Kirov | just making sure |
| 22:24.45 | vhaarr | Try it yourself with UIErrorsFrame: /script UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage("Test", 1, 0, 0, 1, 2) |
| 22:24.55 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.41 | Kirov | It never fades out? |
| 22:26.01 | vhaarr | After approx. 7 seconds it does. |
| 22:26.17 | vhaarr | No matter what you put in the holdTime argument. |
| 22:26.22 | Kirov | Something might be setting SetFadeDuration. |
| 22:26.29 | Kirov | I believe that overrides all current messages |
| 22:26.33 | vhaarr | hm |
| 22:27.02 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.22 | vhaarr | Seems to me that's how long it should use for fading from 1 to 0 alpha. |
| 22:27.49 | Kirov | hmm |
| 22:28.06 | Kirov | It should wait for 2 seconds, then fade for three |
| 22:28.18 | vhaarr | It waits for 7. |
| 22:28.21 | Kirov | I can't test it myself. |
| 22:28.23 | vhaarr | approx |
| 22:28.29 | Kirov | no wow at work atm |
| 22:28.41 | vhaarr | Well the holdTime argument has no impact on the hold time here. |
| 22:28.52 | vhaarr | Could anyone else test? |
| 22:28.54 | Mikk | fatbrain: I'll see what I can do about getting wowbench to run under 5.1, too |
| 22:28.59 | vhaarr | Just paste those 2 commands in WoW. |
| 22:29.04 | Mikk | I need to get FrameXML to work under it too, though :/ |
| 22:29.10 | kergoth | Mikk: hey, i had questions... let me see if i can remember what they were |
| 22:29.26 | fatbrain | Mikk: nice. |
| 22:29.34 | fatbrain | errm :/ |
| 22:29.58 | Mikk | (And, no, I'm not going to distribute BC alpha FrameXML...) |
| 22:30.06 | Mikk | (Though I suppose I could snarf a version and make it work myself) |
| 22:30.15 | Mikk | (And tell others that they can do the same if they have legal access to it ;)) |
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| 22:30.28 | Mikk | Yeah that works |
| 22:30.45 | kergoth | Mikk: opinon on http://kergoth.com/TODO.wowbench to start with... another one is item info.. are you planning on parsing wdb directly, or at least supporting a dump of ludwig's data from in game? |
| 22:30.51 | kergoth | s/non/nion/ |
| 22:33.01 | fatbrain | kergoth: What's ludwig's data? |
| 22:33.10 | kergoth | ludwig is an in game itemcache browser |
| 22:33.19 | fatbrain | like telos lootlink? |
| 22:33.32 | Industrial | does it have a dressup frame? |
| 22:33.35 | Kirov | fatbrain - like Elkano's ItemDB |
| 22:33.38 | kergoth | no, lootlink maintains its own item info database |
| 22:33.39 | kergoth | yea |
| 22:33.43 | fatbrain | Kirov: havn't used any of them. |
| 22:33.52 | fatbrain | so, ludwig is from the wdbs? |
| 22:33.55 | Kirkburn|Vista | lol, you *have* to watch this - Stargate Atlantis and World of Warcraft! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kl4Dz4xhE8 |
| 22:34.00 | Industrial | I like ItemDB because i NEED the dressup frame |
| 22:34.01 | Industrial | : |
| 22:34.02 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:34.03 | kergoth | fatbrain: instead of maintaining a database, itemdb and ludwig access the .. exactly, they get at the item info the client has cached |
| 22:34.30 | fatbrain | can you merge wdb's? or is there a checksum of some sort in the headers? |
| 22:34.50 | Industrial | Mikma: could you repost the Youtube vid urls? :< |
| 22:35.10 | fatbrain | I wrote a parser program for parsing wdb's but I only use that to get stuff in my web-db, would be nice to have a cache with all the items. |
| 22:35.46 | Industrial | lol Kirkburn|Vista ! |
| 22:36.23 | kergoth | Mikk: also thinking about adding a 'editscript' command to wowbench which spawns the text editor on a temporary file and then does a loadfile() on its contents, or even having a pool of temporary files whose contents arent lost until you exit wowbench, to function like a tinypad tool, wouldnt have to restart wowbench every time you make a change |
| 22:36.25 | Industrial | fatbrain: you should ask at wowhead.com or something |
| 22:36.40 | Industrial | fatbrain: they have a webdb :) |
| 22:37.13 | fatbrain | Industrial: I bet they got that db-data from wdb's or some other wow-db-site. |
| 22:37.44 | Industrial | fatbrain: thats why |
| 22:37.53 | Industrial | s/thats why/my point/ |
| 22:37.57 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:38.20 | fatbrain | hehe |
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| 22:48.48 | Mikk | kergoth: pardon, RL interfered. I'll be back in ~5 more minutes. |
| 22:49.31 | kergoth | np |
| 22:53.33 | cogwheel | anyone know if blizzcon beta invites have been sent yet? |
| 22:53.47 | Cairenn | cogwheel: I haven't received mine yet |
| 22:54.24 | Mikk | kergoth: loading scripts inside wowbench is easy |
| 22:54.25 | cogwheel | ok... i saw the thread on the general forum about raiding guilds getting invites (and some MVPs too...) so i got a little anxious ;) |
| 22:54.29 | Mikk | just dofile("blaha.txt") |
| 22:54.39 | Mikk | standard lua ftw =) |
| 22:54.56 | Mikk | though i suppose it deserves to be documented somewhere |
| 22:55.38 | kergoth | ah, it does a loadstring on the commandline contents? i thought it was parsed manually |
| 22:55.44 | kergoth | hence fixing /script |
| 22:56.44 | Mikk | ReloadUI() is pointless btw |
| 22:57.08 | Mikk | WoW flushes the Lua parser state and loads everything from scratch when you do that |
| 22:57.15 | Mikk | == exit wowbench and restart |
| 22:57.34 | Mikk | I tried a hack where I kept stuff in RAM so I could reset to it "quickly" |
| 22:57.47 | Kirkburn|Vista | Not that cogwheel is here now, I think what they've been told is that they're _going_ to get keys, but haven't yet |
| 22:57.48 | Mikk | Turns out the "reset" took as much time as loading everything from scratch |
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| 22:58.03 | Mikk | PLUS the time it takes to to make that backup |
| 22:58.22 | kergoth | it wouldnt be hard to implement. just use a seperate global environment for the wow stuff instead of using the same one as wowbench |
| 22:58.23 | Kirkburn|Vista | Dammity. Hello cogwheel - I just said: "I think what they've been told is that they're _going_ to get keys, but haven't yet" |
| 22:58.30 | kergoth | then a reset is just letting that get gc'd and populating a new one |
| 22:58.35 | Iriel | I'm on the Blizzard Friends List and have not received a beta invite yet, I suspect the post was discussing who they WILL be sending to, not who they HAVE sent them to. |
| 22:58.35 | kergoth | but i agree, it really isnt necessary |
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| 22:59.07 | Mikk | I like your ideas about handling dependencies and stuff. Just make it optional. |
| 22:59.33 | kergoth | i dont want to remove the ability to explicitly load one addon, just make some other things more convenient |
| 23:00.07 | Mikk | Aye |
| 23:00.09 | kergoth | the biggest one i want to see right now is readline support. then we get commandline history even across executions of wowbench, and the ability to navigate the commandline with the arrows and stuff |
| 23:00.34 | Mikk | Oho, it doesn't do that now in unix? |
| 23:00.39 | Mikk | It does all that in windows already |
| 23:00.54 | Mikk | Must be a Lua binary thing |
| 23:01.06 | Hatsuki | hmm, first server with two KT kills? or is there some us server? |
| 23:01.25 | kergoth | the lua binary does, wowbench doesnt |
| 23:01.30 | Mikk | O.O |
| 23:02.11 | kergoth | also, the case thing is driving me bonkers, i wish there was an easy way to fix it |
| 23:02.19 | Mikk | Which case thing? |
| 23:02.37 | kergoth | linux being case sensitive means wow .toc filenames not matching the case of the actual filenames is an error, but it isnt in wow since thats windows or windows emulation |
| 23:02.42 | Mikk | ahh |
| 23:03.08 | Mikk | Well.. it may be possible to solve that in wowbench |
| 23:03.10 | kergoth | its a pain to fix since lua doesnt provide mechanisms to list files in a dir in the stock libs, need lposix or something |
| 23:03.20 | kergoth | afaik |
| 23:03.28 | Mikk | Precisely. lposix or lfs or whatever it's called. |
| 23:03.38 | Mikk | Quite a bit of coding with splitting paths and shit but certainly doable. |
| 23:03.39 | Qzot | OUCH. |
| 23:03.40 | Iriel | It doesn't have those features built in for sure, which is annoying, to say the least. |
| 23:04.11 | Mikk | No kidding. One would think that there'd be enough people that'd want a file system lib in the standard distro. |
| 23:04.12 | Qzot | "Those that have registered using their Blizzcon code should be good to go for when beta invites are sent. Those that haven't registered yet have until October 28th before their cards expire." <-- I guess it's time to register my card. |
| 23:04.13 | kergoth | its expected that it doesnt, given how anal they are about compatibility, but definately annoying. miss having those features from python and ruby |
| 23:04.42 | Mikk | blah blah compatibility. present posix compatible interfaces. all sane systems have them. |
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| 23:05.01 | kergoth | lua is used in some non-posix environments, specifically some embedded os's |
| 23:05.19 | Mikk | yeah and also on systems without file systems |
| 23:05.25 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:05.25 | Mikk | so we should yank out file reading and writing too |
| 23:05.41 | kergoth | i could shove lua into an SOC with custom firmware and have it behave |
| 23:06.00 | Mikk | i'm not suggesting it be implemented in the core binary. that'd be idiotic. |
| 23:06.10 | Mikk | i'm just saying that the standard distribution should include a sane fs lib. |
| 23:06.25 | Mikk | stat / dir support |
| 23:06.33 | Mikk | screw permissions and stuff lke that |
| 23:06.41 | kergoth | kinda goes against lua's philosophy though. doing a lot with little, leaving it to us to implement an object model and shit |
| 23:07.44 | Mikk | Anyway.. your todo thingy |
| 23:07.47 | Mikk | Put it on the wiki =) |
| 23:07.56 | kergoth | good idea, wikis are perfect for that sort of thing |
| 23:08.10 | Mikk | www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench/To_do |
| 23:08.14 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench/To_do |
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| 23:10.42 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.19 | Mikk | whee =) |
| 23:15.29 | Mikk | You've if()ed that as unix only, right? |
| 23:15.37 | Mikk | Doesn't work very well under winbloze :-/ |
| 23:15.39 | jaxdahl | can someone tell me how to check my rest XP via a /script command real quick? thanks |
| 23:16.07 | Mikk | kergoth: [x] Button.Click <-- what's this? |
| 23:16.21 | Mikk | Oh, the actual API. |
| 23:16.25 | Mikk | nm |
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| 23:18.32 | kergoth | yea, simple, just moved bits out of the click command handler into a utility function and called that |
| 23:22.31 | Nightdew | Is there any place that lists when servers came online and how full they are |
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| 23:25.59 | cogwheel | Oh my.... Wii in US before japan? (maybe old news but i'm still surprised) |
| 23:26.11 | cogwheel | and just in time for my birthday ;) |
| 23:37.44 | leech2k | hmm |
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