| 00:01.01 | Cairenn | okay |
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| 01:37.14 | Tem|AFK | so, what's the respawn time on whipper root plants? |
| 01:37.27 | Tem|AFK | is it static or random? |
| 01:37.47 | Shadowed | 30 m |
| 01:38.21 | Tem|AFK | I had one respawn in less |
| 01:38.46 | Tem|AFK | I got there 3-4 minutes before 30 minutes and it was already back |
| 01:38.52 | Tem|AFK | oh, there it is again |
| 01:38.54 | Tem|AFK | less than 30m |
| 01:39.01 | Shadowed | maybe it's 25m |
| 01:39.03 | Shadowed | cant remember! |
| 01:39.20 | Tem|AFK | this one was right on the 25m mark |
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| 01:39.47 | Tem|AFK | so I'm gonna go with that |
| 01:39.50 | Shadowed | theres your answer! |
| 01:42.24 | Industrial | I always thought raw material spawns were random :S |
| 01:42.44 | Gngsk | quite static |
| 01:42.55 | Industrial | and that gatherer was used for marking 'areas' of resources |
| 01:43.34 | Gngsk | there's really no reason for gatherer functionality, all the data sites have the locations, all you need to do is get access to that data and plot it |
| 01:44.25 | Gngsk | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=175404 |
| 01:44.35 | Industrial | yeah but are the respawn timers also static? if so you can track them ingame and walk in a circle all day gathering resources |
| 01:44.54 | Shadowed | Would you rather have to alt tab out, open your browser, go to the site, search, open the map, alt tab in and out to confirm the locations ( which aren't 100% accurate ) |
| 01:45.02 | Shadowed | or, use data you know is accurate since you garthered it yourself :p |
| 01:45.21 | Gngsk | uh, they are 100% accurate |
| 01:45.43 | Gngsk | and you wouldn't need to alt tab out |
| 01:45.50 | Gngsk | the plots would be on your world map |
| 01:46.51 | Industrial | by the way ppl, do you know that AQ was in the game at wow client version 1.4 or so? |
| 01:47.00 | Industrial | or at least the beginning of it |
| 01:47.00 | Shadowed | yeah |
| 01:47.01 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:47.31 | Industrial | havent tried but maybe now some BC stuff is in there too |
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| 02:07.21 | malreth | i'm watching the Japanese Powerpuff Girls anime! |
| 02:07.47 | malreth | they get weapons and transformation scenes |
| 02:08.05 | abug | wtb powerpuff girls ui skin |
| 02:08.20 | Kirov | you've seen the japanese spider man? |
| 02:08.24 | malreth | and apparently, 15 minutes of each episode is dedicated to watching the girls eat food in really cute and adorable ways |
| 02:08.34 | malreth | Kirov: yes... yes i've seen it |
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| 02:09.59 | malreth | so yeah... imagine the love child of Sailor Moon and Powerpuff Girls... |
| 02:10.30 | malreth | they have weapons and they call out their attacks... |
| 02:10.35 | Kirov | but it has zim! |
| 02:10.37 | malreth | and Bubbles likes to shop |
| 02:10.51 | malreth | and Prof. Utonium has a son |
| 02:10.54 | malreth | and a robot dog |
| 02:11.24 | malreth | and apparently dropping a manju bun into chemical x turns it into chemical z |
| 02:13.18 | malreth | http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5371 |
| 02:15.08 | Kirov | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIw3T17cnWA |
| 02:15.35 | malreth | ah... yeah. |
| 02:16.22 | Industrial | cool |
| 02:16.23 | Industrial | :D |
| 02:16.45 | malreth | that YT video is craptastic choppy |
| 02:17.09 | Industrial | downloads fine for me |
| 02:18.20 | malreth | ah... well... enjoy |
| 02:18.49 | Industrial | hypaaaaa blossomu! |
| 02:18.59 | malreth | the char design is cute |
| 02:19.19 | Industrial | haha mojo looks cool |
| 02:20.28 | Kirkburn|Vista | The japanese really do have an worrying obsession with young girls :/ |
| 02:21.56 | malreth | why worry? |
| 02:22.40 | Kirkburn|Vista | Because I'd rather my daughter, assuming I have one, didn't grow up wanting to look like them |
| 02:24.12 | malreth | oh, i see how our views are different, then Kirkburn|Vista |
| 02:24.28 | malreth | my daughter, assuming I have one WILL grow up looking like them |
| 02:25.10 | malreth | ^_^ |
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| 02:31.12 | malreth | later all |
| 02:31.17 | Industrial | cya |
| 02:31.40 | Industrial | oh hes from texas that explains |
| 02:32.01 | Industrial | (no im just kidding) |
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| 02:35.03 | Kirkburn|Vista | hehe |
| 02:37.15 | Industrial | mm i really like my new interface look |
| 02:37.18 | Industrial | -look |
| 02:37.26 | Industrial | http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8581/wowscrnshot092306043627gy6.jpg |
| 02:37.52 | Kirkburn|Vista | I approve ;) |
| 02:37.57 | Industrial | Im not even takin my eyess off the center ONCE |
| 02:38.04 | Industrial | when killing stuff |
| 02:38.22 | Kirkburn|Vista | Well, Shadowglen does require extreme concentration |
| 02:38.33 | Industrial | =P |
| 02:38.51 | Industrial | Ideally Ill have it all self-coded |
| 02:38.56 | Industrial | some day... |
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| 02:41.22 | Kirkburn_ | How does the chat box work? |
| 02:42.45 | Industrial | thats idChat2, well most of it |
| 02:43.04 | Shadowed | soooo nobody happens to know what the bonus honor when killing people in a raid is do they? :p |
| 02:44.06 | Kirov | what event? |
| 02:44.10 | Industrial | 00:00:00 g <Industrial> foo <-- thats a guild message timestamped with my name coloured to my raid class collour. You can customize it all and delete the modules you dont want |
| 02:44.18 | Industrial | (or dont download) |
| 02:44.31 | Shadowed | No, the bonus honor thats added to a kill when an enemy dies. |
| 02:44.36 | Shadowed | It's not just rank value / players in the area |
| 02:46.04 | Industrial | the timestamp is just a date() so you can edit that with strftime format, you can have any text for any chat channel - im working on the custom ones - or none, you can have [name] <name> or name: , and much more you dont see in the shot |
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| 02:47.01 | Industrial | buttons removed, editbox up top, dont have to hold alt to move int he editbox, you can hide its texture, mousewheel scrolling, shift+scroll top the top/bottom, catches urls |
| 02:47.13 | Industrial | I cant live without it anymore :P |
| 02:47.41 | Kirkburn|Vista | What about the other tabs? |
| 02:47.47 | Industrial | still tabs |
| 02:48.00 | Industrial | oh, it does them for all chatframes |
| 02:48.11 | Kirkburn|Vista | Ah, I see |
| 02:48.12 | Industrial | but you can config it per chat frame - most of it |
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| 02:48.58 | Industrial | hm i like the female nelf staff attack motion where they swing ut upward |
| 02:48.59 | Industrial | :D |
| 02:49.35 | Industrial | I need a /mem so I can do away with that fubar plugin |
| 02:49.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 02:50.49 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.07 | Industrial | yeah to report memory stats :D |
| 02:52.46 | Kirkburn|Vista | Hey, wtf, the newest build of Vista has just been made available to the public :O |
| 02:53.03 | Kirkburn|Vista | Where's cogwheel when you need him? |
| 02:54.09 | Industrial | Brilliant; "ONOES DISCORD IS ATEING AL MEH SOFTDRIVE ROFLMAOAFK!!!!!" |
| 02:54.27 | Industrial | thats neronix' description of his mem showing addon :P |
| 02:54.50 | Kirkburn|Vista | hehe |
| 02:57.04 | Xuerian | Damnt Kirkburn|Vista, you make me want to tryan download it =\ |
| 02:57.29 | Xuerian | The fact I only have 5g open hd space and a computer that logically shouldn't be functioning BE DAMNED |
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| 02:58.18 | Industrial | how can i round down to 00.00 ? floor is making it 00. |
| 02:58.30 | Industrial | s/0/#/g |
| 02:58.42 | Kirkburn | Well, if you decide you do want it, the link is here: http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc1/en/download-5728.htm |
| 02:59.02 | Kirkburn | Only takes a couple of hours using the download manager |
| 02:59.08 | Kirov | industrial - *100, floor, /100 |
| 02:59.31 | Kirov | or format( "%.2f", number) |
| 02:59.33 | Industrial | hmm |
| 02:59.36 | Industrial | ah |
| 02:59.56 | Xuerian | Kirk... |
| 03:00.01 | Xuerian | A couple hours? XD |
| 03:00.04 | Kirkburn|Vista | In fact, for me it'll only take another 2 hours |
| 03:00.12 | Kirkburn|Vista | An dI only started it about 5 mins ago |
| 03:00.16 | Kirkburn|Vista | *And I |
| 03:00.32 | Xuerian | Well, I wouldn't be special if you were right :P |
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| 03:01.12 | Kirkburn|Vista | Fortunately, I think I can just upgrade from RC1 to the new build |
| 03:05.40 | Industrial | most spohisticated piece of addon code ever |
| 03:05.43 | Industrial | : |
| 03:05.44 | Industrial | local function display() a,_ = gcinfo() ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.format('Mem: %.2fMiB', a)) end |
| 03:05.47 | Industrial | wewt |
| 03:06.30 | Xuerian | lol |
| 03:07.11 | Kirov | Industrial - you know you can just do a = gcinfo |
| 03:07.14 | Kirov | you don't need the _ |
| 03:09.04 | Industrial | oh cool, smaller |
| 03:10.51 | Kamaris | in the bindings.xml, the valid options are BINDING_HEADER_something_TITLE, BINDING_NAME_something_TOGGLE, BINDING_NAME_something_OPTIONS right? |
| 03:10.51 | Kirov | actually, I believe you can do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.format('Mem: %.2fMiB',(gcinfo())) |
| 03:11.01 | Kamaris | for some reason i can't get it to show up in my keybindings |
| 03:11.23 | Industrial | Kirov: right |
| 03:11.34 | Kirkburn|Vista | Dammit, where's cogwheel when you need to prevent him installing RC1 :P |
| 03:12.35 | Kirkburn|Vista | I'm off to bed, but if cogwheel appears, can someone point him to the link I posted earlier? |
| 03:13.05 | Kirkburn|Vista | Pretty please with flowers and sugery sweets on top? |
| 03:13.30 | Industrial | SLASH_IDMEMORYDISPLAY = '/mem' |
| 03:13.30 | Industrial | SlashCmdList['DEVTOOLSRELOAD'] = function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.format('Mem: %.2fMiB',(gcinfo()))) end |
| 03:13.40 | Industrial | oh |
| 03:13.45 | Industrial | now thats obvious isnt it |
| 03:13.48 | Industrial | xD |
| 03:15.48 | Industrial | SLASH_IDMEMORYDISPLAY = '/mem' |
| 03:15.50 | Industrial | SlashCmdList['IDMEMORYDISPLAY'] = function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.format('Mem: %.2fMiB',(gcinfo()))) end |
| 03:15.55 | Industrial | still I get nothing :S |
| 03:16.06 | Industrial | /mem doesnt exist |
| 03:17.15 | Kirov | SLASH_IDMEMORYDISPLAY1 |
| 03:17.26 | Industrial | why the 1? |
| 03:17.37 | Kirov | Because it's required? |
| 03:17.55 | Industrial | and why isnt there an AddSlashCommand({'trigger1', 'triggern'}, function) ? |
| 03:18.04 | Industrial | :P |
| 03:21.38 | Kirov | Industrial - you could use ace. :P |
| 03:21.56 | Industrial | Kirov: *badoom tisch* |
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| 03:39.40 | warla | lol i just made 20x barbaric bracers... i had to smash in the face of every mob in swamp of sorrows to get those 80x large fang... |
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| 03:55.19 | abug | Loud noises |
| 04:09.26 | Corr[home] | warla: so... WHY did you make 20 of them? |
| 04:17.02 | abug | You can't question a man who has made 20 barbaric bracers: if he's lying he might not give you a true answer, if he's insane he might try to farm you for large fangs, and if he's a gold farmer he won't have the time to talk. |
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| 04:20.39 | Kamaris | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.26 | Corr[home] | nice.. |
| 04:22.56 | Kirov | Kamaris - BINDING_HEADER_ and BINDING_NAME_ are the only required parts afaik |
| 04:23.27 | Kamaris | required, but title gives the keybindings subheading right? |
| 04:24.19 | Kirov | honestly, not sure |
| 04:24.58 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_Bindings.xml_to_create_key_bindings_for_your_AddOn |
| 04:25.10 | Kamaris | yes, i've used that page |
| 04:25.12 | Kamaris | and tried to emulate it |
| 04:25.14 | Kamaris | to no avail |
| 04:25.56 | Kamaris | http://pastebin.ca/180438 |
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| 04:29.08 | Kirov | hmm |
| 04:29.13 | Kirov | looks fine |
| 04:31.55 | Kamaris | ya, doesn't work |
| 04:33.13 | zenzelezz | Kamaris: just out of curiosity (I'm rather noob, so don't think I know what I'm speaking of), tried moving the things from localization.lua to some other .lua? I can't notice any other difference from mine, which seems to work |
| 04:33.48 | zenzelezz | just those three binding-related lines of course |
| 04:34.05 | Kamaris | ok, i'll try |
| 04:34.20 | Kirov | Mine looks basically identical to that, and works fine. |
| 04:34.51 | Kamaris | well, my keybindings option doesn't have the title, and for the two keybinding options it shows WMA_TOGGLE AND WMA_OPTIONS |
| 04:40.09 | Kirov | Have you tried renaming them WMATOGGLE and WMAOPTIONS |
| 04:40.29 | Kamaris | yes |
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| 05:42.41 | Cairenn|sleep | night folks |
| 05:42.54 | zenzelezz | night |
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| 05:44.14 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:44.49 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 06:07.08 | Esamynn | O_O 118k Hateful Strike......... |
| 06:07.10 | Esamynn | I can safely say that that is the absolute hardest I have ever been hit |
| 06:07.29 | zenzelezz | he must not like you |
| 06:07.37 | Esamynn | he was enraged at the time |
| 06:07.51 | Esamynn | 11% Patchwerk attempt |
| 06:08.26 | zenzelezz | I don't like Patchwerk... mostly because I'm ~1000-1500 hp short of being able to offtank him |
| 06:08.59 | zenzelezz | my guild only cleared the trash around him for the first time last night though |
| 06:10.26 | Kamaris | what do you call the buttons on the minimap? |
| 06:11.35 | Esamynn | Bob |
| 06:12.26 | Esamynn | Kamaris: care to be more specific |
| 06:13.05 | Kamaris | sorry |
| 06:13.21 | Kamaris | trying to figure out what to google to add a button to the minimap that links to my mod |
| 06:13.46 | Esamynn | better to look at an example addon |
| 06:14.01 | Esamynn | or the default UI |
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| 06:15.41 | abug | kirov? |
| 06:15.50 | abug | er kamaris? |
| 06:16.14 | abug | did you get the keybindings working? |
| 06:17.12 | abug | If you have bindings.xml in your .toc, take it out |
| 06:17.22 | abug | but that's probably not the problem |
| 06:18.16 | Kamaris | abug, no it was never in the .toc |
| 06:18.26 | Kamaris | and it is still not working, but i have moved passed that hinderance for now |
| 06:18.31 | Kamaris | just couldn't understand why it didn't work |
| 06:20.23 | abug | are you sure localization.lua is in your .toc? |
| 06:22.06 | abug | or being loaded I should say |
| 06:23.12 | Kamaris | heh |
| 06:23.13 | Kamaris | that was it |
| 06:23.18 | Kamaris | didn't include it in the .toc |
| 06:23.23 | Kamaris | much obliged, sir |
| 06:23.31 | abug | heh no problem |
| 06:23.55 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 06:24.07 | FISKER_Q | there's World of Warcraft in SG: Atlantis |
| 06:24.25 | Kamaris | so far i just have a simple dialog box with a close button, that maps to a keybind, and closes with the escape key as well |
| 06:24.32 | Kamaris | trying to link that to a button on the minimap now |
| 06:43.34 | Esamynn | wooot, PATCHWERK down! |
| 06:43.43 | Esamynn | but he didn't have my cloak :( |
| 06:45.37 | zenzelezz | grats! And better luck next time =) |
| 06:46.11 | zenzelezz | there are two things I don't like about Naxxramas... it feels like Undercity, and there's a ton of tanks before me on loot ;) |
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| 07:53.38 | Esamynn | night all |
| 08:03.47 | zenzelezz | interesting, Alliance also hear the Herald of Thrall's yells in The Barrens o_O |
| 08:05.02 | Amro | but get no buff |
| 08:05.16 | zenzelezz | nope :-p |
| 08:05.33 | zenzelezz | but don't Horde only get the buff if they're in Orgrimmar, not The Barrens? |
| 08:05.52 | Amro | i got it once in the barrens i think |
| 08:06.41 | zenzelezz | perhaps they do; been a long time since I was horde =) |
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| 08:34.32 | FISKER_Q | any of you guys got vista and xp on dual boot_ |
| 08:34.33 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 08:42.46 | Kirov | noop |
| 08:44.36 | FISKER_Q | well i'll probably have to do xp install first then vista |
| 08:44.40 | FISKER_Q | as like 2k and xp |
| 08:47.22 | FISKER_Q | how much place do i need for vista? |
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| 08:52.53 | Astrolux | Can anyone help me with adding a custom SCT event? |
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| 09:06.33 | Astrolux | Anyone know Scrolling Combat text? I need some help adding a custom event. |
| 09:07.22 | Iriel | Sadly not i'm afraid |
| 09:11.18 | FISKER_Q | there's a page about it on grayhoof's protal |
| 09:14.06 | Astrolux | Fisker im not familiar with grayhoofs portal, what is it? |
| 09:14.59 | zenzelezz | Astrolux: http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?uid=14368 |
| 09:17.00 | FISKER_Q | heh thought you would know since you were here :P |
| 09:18.25 | Astrolux | I only know how to install mods :) |
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| 11:27.30 | Corr[home] | getting into that devilsaur farming. found a map someone provided of the different spawn points' wandering paths |
| 11:27.47 | Corr[home] | this is what druids are for. |
| 11:28.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 11:33.12 | grr | Hiya again, some very nice person here helped me yesterday so i thought maybe i could ask a Q here again. |
| 11:34.19 | grr | I want to add one of those popular buttons to the minimap circle. |
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| 11:43.39 | Corr[home] | if you do that, i will hunt you down and bury you in my minimap icons |
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| 11:43.57 | Corr[home] | ah, just kidding, i just have no idea how to do it |
| 11:47.05 | grr | ^^ well i got some user feedback on my addon |
| 11:47.14 | grr | and almost everyone mentioned a minimap button to hide/show the main window |
| 11:48.04 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4686-MyMinimapButton.html |
| 11:49.07 | grr | yeah looking it now, but 4th(;>) party code like that makes me a sad panda ;( |
| 11:49.29 | grr | I'd rather write my own (even tho it takes 5 times as long) and learn by myself then use someone elses code ;P |
| 11:49.48 | Cairenn | yeah, good heaven forbid that you should look at it as an example to try to learn from |
| 11:50.02 | Cairenn | :p |
| 11:50.11 | grr | well, that i'm already doing ^^ |
| 11:51.46 | Cairenn | there ya go then |
| 11:52.58 | Cairenn|afk | all teasing aside, Gello is a good coder, looking at his stuff to help figure it out can't be a bad thing :) |
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| 12:21.31 | Dhraga | Hi All |
| 12:23.03 | Cairenn|sleep | hey Dhraga |
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| 12:27.37 | Cairenn|sleep | hey Rophy |
| 12:28.06 | Rophy | hi |
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| 13:31.27 | Kaso | I've just been re-reading the 2.0.0 changes on the wow UI forums, and i saw a post by "Bennethal" at the bottom of the fifth page, about why compiled LUA was removed from the game, i wonder if anyone knows anything more about that. |
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| 13:41.30 | grr | hmm |
| 13:41.50 | grr | isn't it "LeftButton" and "RightButton" that is arg1 in the "OnClick" event? |
| 13:45.59 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/UIHANDLER_OnClick |
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| 14:20.00 | Mery | Kaso: The Cosmos addon he mentioned was as far as I know never pre-compiled. The only precompiled (or the only one i remeber) was thottbot. |
| 14:20.33 | Kaso | hmm, so what was the real reason that pre-complied support was taken out? |
| 14:20.57 | Mery | Slouken never said in the forums why, so I dunno |
| 14:21.42 | Mery | maybe it was the drama Cosmos caused when AleyYoshi added a line like "ninja" to a certain players tooltip when he got annoyed by him |
| 14:22.05 | Mery | (and that you cannot see if a mod does this kind of stuff when its precompiled) |
| 14:23.05 | Mery | or maybe they just wanted to be able to see how certain mods work have it easier to close holes, but im only guessing |
| 14:23.57 | Kaso | ok, well it does make sense they'd take it out, my interest was just piqued at the idea that perhaps it got disabled because someone wrote a very evil addon |
| 14:25.02 | Mery | all slouken ever said was "In the upcoming push, the game will not load compiled Lua. Sorry Thott! :)". |
| 14:37.26 | grr | the "invalid key for `next" error, wtf is that? ;> |
| 14:37.31 | grr | something to do with an array, ofc. |
| 14:37.33 | grr | in a loop. |
| 14:37.35 | grr | but why? |
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| 14:44.42 | Kaso | show code :> |
| 14:45.27 | grr | fixed it ;p |
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| 14:57.00 | grr | hmmm ok, another problem :) |
| 14:57.43 | grr | I got this checkbutton: http://pastey.net/1050 but it wont get "checked" when i click it |
| 14:57.53 | grr | that's happend with every otehr checkbutton i've ever made |
| 14:57.56 | grr | but not this one, what have i missed? ;> |
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| 15:00.33 | grr | lol |
| 15:00.39 | grr | <Button instead of <CheckButton |
| 15:00.40 | grr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:14.16 | wereSheep|away | http://sairen.wind-force.net/ui-screenshots/ <- the party and raid frames, is that oUF ? |
| 15:14.50 | JoshBorke | agUF i think |
| 15:20.38 | JoshBorke | woohoo! my first change on the wiki! |
| 15:24.37 | wereSheep|away | JoshBorke, do you know which style that is? |
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| 15:28.42 | JoshBorke | wereSheep|away: i think it's the oUF style ;-) |
| 15:29.19 | JoshBorke | woot! my back button works! |
| 15:30.52 | JoshBorke | bye all :-) |
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| 15:34.46 | Mikk | Hah. I got to welcome him :-) |
| 15:35.41 | Mikk | I want a firefox plugin that fires up an external editor for wiki pages.... |
| 15:35.54 | Mikk | Wonder how hard it is to write FF plugins |
| 15:36.24 | Mikk | (Yes, I know about ee.pl. Noway I'm jumping through those hoops to get it to work.) |
| 15:42.50 | Mikk | Hummmmmm... something just hit me |
| 15:43.00 | Kirkburn|Vista | ouch? |
| 15:43.04 | Mikk | Since I have a script that's looking at all the recently-edited pages of the wiki anyway |
| 15:43.13 | Mikk | It'd be kinda trivial to add an extended categorization thingy |
| 15:43.32 | Kirkburn|Vista | I'm still waiting for you to do the News pages move =) |
| 15:43.35 | Mikk | Bah :-P |
| 15:43.41 | Mikk | Hush, I'm having brilliant flashes =) |
| 15:43.56 | Mikk | Like.. autocreate a category-like page |
| 15:44.00 | Mikk | Where you can have DESCRIPTIONS of pages |
| 15:44.27 | Mikk | Or even create cross indices like... list things that are only in category A _AND_ B |
| 15:44.55 | Mikk | I like the categorization thingy, I think |
| 15:44.59 | Mikk | The description I mean |
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| 15:45.22 | Kirkburn|Vista | Intriguing |
| 15:45.35 | Mikk | You'd add something like ... euhm.. i dunno.. {{desc|A page about <foo>|}} |
| 15:46.03 | Mikk | And it could autocreate "extended category" pages according to how the page is categorized |
| 15:46.08 | Mikk | And insert that description |
| 15:46.11 | Curney | does anyone know of a way to get itemlinks in chatframes that are justified using SetJustifyH to work correctly? |
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| 15:56.48 | Kirkburn|Vista | Great, my Vista iso is burning at about 1x speed. S'pose I'll find something else to do (the laptop's DVD drive is all but broken, so I'm hardly surprised) |
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| 16:48.27 | Kaso | hmm here's an intersting bug |
| 16:49.07 | Kaso | ive just been in a battleground, now im outside, i rightclick on someone in guild list to whisper, but it comes up as "Tell {player}-Nordrassil:" |
| 16:49.12 | Kaso | im not on Nordrassil |
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| 17:20.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hey.. can someone answer a api question for me? I have a macro that spams sw:p. I want to change it slightly to spam renew |
| 17:20.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | I currently use TargetNearestEnemy, and checkfor Sw:P and move on, if he has it. |
| 17:20.54 | Nomad_Wanderer | is there an equivalent TargetNEarestFriendly? |
| 17:21.17 | cladhaire | your wowwikifu is weak! |
| 17:21.43 | nevcairiel | TargetNearestFriend() |
| 17:22.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | It's all re-organized and stuff. I haven't learned the new structure |
| 17:22.14 | nevcairiel | or TargetNearestRaidMember |
| 17:22.31 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 17:23.00 | cladhaire | whttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Targetting_Functions |
| 17:23.01 | cladhaire | ftw =) |
| 17:25.14 | nevcairiel | is there a way to seperate two mobs with the same name from each other? some id or something? |
| 17:25.22 | zenzelezz | no |
| 17:26.22 | cladhaire | no |
| 17:26.25 | cladhaire | but you can come close |
| 17:26.32 | cladhaire | gender, level, name |
| 17:26.45 | cladhaire | if necessary you could load a UnitModel of each of them, and get the model information |
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| 17:26.52 | cladhaire | that may get you close. |
| 17:27.03 | nevcairiel | well, in instances most of the trash is exactly the same :) |
| 17:27.49 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 17:32.39 | cladhaire | but CreateFrame("PlayerModel"):SetUnit("raid13target"):GetModel() is fun :P |
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| 17:43.02 | [floyd] | That'll call for a full wipe :) |
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| 18:07.41 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:08.41 | Cairenn | hey ckknight |
| 18:14.26 | Cairenn | quiet day |
| 18:14.34 | grr | Is it possible to register and fire your own events? |
| 18:15.04 | ckknight | with Ace2, yes. |
| 18:15.12 | grr | meh |
| 18:15.13 | ckknight | with standard WoW API, no |
| 18:15.15 | grr | ;( |
| 18:16.00 | Tuller | yeah custom events aren't a standard wow api thingy |
| 18:16.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | but ace2 is build on standart wow api so its posable :p |
| 18:18.31 | cladhaire | standard |
| 18:19.04 | cladhaire | you can do message passing relatively easy without a library if that's your main need |
| 18:20.24 | grr | i know how to accomplish that yes but what i wanted to do is fire "real" wow events |
| 18:21.32 | cladhaire | yeah, that sucks =/ |
| 18:29.56 | grr | hmm |
| 18:30.18 | Cairenn | hey wereHamster |
| 18:42.01 | grr | Hhmm what is considered good practice? To save data in the frames, for example "MyPlayerFrame.ClassType = 'Paladin'" or to have an array/table where that data is held instead with a reference to the frame? Such as: MyPlayers = { gr = { class = Paladin, frame = CreateFrame() } } ? |
| 18:43.02 | cladhaire | if they're your frames, I prefer to hide data there |
| 18:43.05 | grr | I mean sure it depends on the task at hand, ofcourse - but still, what would be considered good practice? The fact that in this case the data is next to meaningless without it's frame as everything is built upon visible feedback to the user it sure leans toward the frame-approach, feedback - anyone? |
| 18:43.12 | grr | Yes they are my frames |
| 18:43.27 | cladhaire | Just if you store any boolean values, use true and false.. cause nil'ing them out hits the metatable |
| 18:43.45 | grr | Okey, thanks for the heads up on that one :) |
| 18:44.03 | grr | But it's not considered bad practice to hide the data in the frames then? |
| 18:44.48 | grr | It seems like a responsability/scope conflict when you put your actuall data in the frams. |
| 18:45.02 | Cide | frames are just tables |
| 18:45.09 | Cide | so if it fits your data model, go for it |
| 18:45.34 | grr | Hmm ok, but if i need to save the data it's best to not use frames i suppose? |
| 18:45.51 | Cide | again, depends on how and when you access your frames |
| 18:45.57 | Cide | it's fine to do, since they're just another table |
| 18:46.08 | Cide | it depends on what you need, so it's entirely up to you |
| 18:46.13 | grr | Hmm ok, ah well. |
| 18:46.25 | grr | I guess I'll have to code a bit and see what fits me the best |
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| 18:46.30 | grr | thanks for your help tho :) |
| 18:49.27 | cladhaire | it really good actually |
| 18:50.23 | grr | ? |
| 18:50.26 | Mikk | Aye, since you tend to get passed the frame as "this" in lots of places |
| 18:50.30 | Mikk | Makes getting hold of your data real easy |
| 18:50.43 | grr | well i'm going with the frame holding data approach |
| 18:50.52 | Mikk | Yay =) |
| 18:50.55 | grr | since now i'm having a lot of look ups to my data-store-table from the frames |
| 18:51.04 | grr | so it only seems logical to let the frames hold the data themselves |
| 18:51.07 | Mikk | yup |
| 18:51.16 | Mikk | if nothing else, put a reference to your data tables in the frames |
| 18:51.26 | grr | and it also removes one more step that can bug/break when the frames/data tables get out of sync |
| 18:51.47 | grr | meh I'll go with the full blown frames approach and see what it leads me :) |
| 18:51.50 | grr | *where. |
| 18:52.05 | Mikk | to a warm fuzzy happy place =) |
| 18:52.09 | grr | ^^ |
| 18:52.45 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm9ouCueyZg&NR <- best video ever |
| 18:53.03 | grr | is it much to have 40 frames? |
| 18:53.06 | grr | one for each raidmember |
| 18:53.09 | grr | active at the same time? |
| 18:53.40 | cladhaire | nah, it can be done well |
| 18:54.09 | grr | i guess 40 frames isn't that much realy? |
| 18:54.12 | Cide | you can do the blizzard style approach and have 120 raid frames.. just ask cladhaire :) |
| 18:54.24 | cladhaire | 180 =) |
| 18:54.25 | grr | considering how many frames the whole UI with all addons have to take up |
| 18:54.27 | cladhaire | 12 sets of 15 |
| 18:54.29 | grr | 40 isn't much is it? |
| 18:54.33 | Cide | haha, even worse then |
| 18:54.45 | cladhaire | grr: Prior to 1.12, the default UI made 180 frames anytime joined a raid |
| 18:54.50 | grr | lol |
| 18:54.50 | grr | ok |
| 18:54.59 | grr | so 40 is np then ;< |
| 18:55.16 | Cide | look at it this way |
| 18:55.25 | Cide | cut it down if you can, but otherwise it's fine |
| 18:55.34 | grr | well i need one frame per person |
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| 18:55.39 | Cide | then 40 is fine :) |
| 18:55.52 | grr | i mean sure it's POSSIBLE to do with one frame per task |
| 18:56.03 | grr | but that involves so much code gymnastics |
| 18:56.08 | grr | i don't wanna get into it |
| 18:56.16 | Cide | then go with 40 |
| 18:56.29 | grr | ok ^^ so making 40 frames wont make my FPS drop from 30 to 20 will it? ;> |
| 18:56.34 | cladhaire | no |
| 18:56.38 | Cide | you won't notice a difference |
| 18:56.53 | Cide | unless you do something very ugly with the 40 frames.. |
| 18:56.57 | grr | ok, thanks - btw this is by far one of the best help/etc. channels i have ever been in |
| 18:57.07 | grr | helpfull and mature people = <3 |
| 18:57.17 | Cide | :) everyone needs help |
| 18:57.35 | Cide | I don't think anyone in here has not asked for input or help at some point |
| 18:57.46 | grr | I'll probably be crying here in a couple of hours about dropdown menus been trying that for a day now ;< |
| 18:57.49 | Cide | except maybe ChanServ |
| 18:58.12 | grr | Anyways, thanks for the help now back to my code :) |
| 18:58.26 | Cide | good luck |
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| 19:03.42 | Kirkburn|Vista | Cide, that poor kid! |
| 19:05.39 | grr | btw, is the: "<Size x="100" y="12" />" syntax shooed upon and should I use the <Size><AbsDimension /></Size instead? |
| 19:07.16 | Legorol | you use whichever |
| 19:07.27 | Legorol | personally <Size x=".."> is more compact and better readable |
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| 19:09.17 | cladhaire | <-- not here |
| 19:12.22 | Legorol | Cairenn: you know how it works.. we like to entrap newcomers, so we have to *pretend* we are nice |
| 19:15.29 | grr | Hmm another question about frames, it's a raid addon so i'll be needing one per player no doubt. |
| 19:15.39 | Cairenn | ah, gotcha |
| 19:15.57 | grr | Should I just create those 40 frames on login cos the player "might" join a raid, or should i create the frames when they actually are needed? |
| 19:16.34 | grr | Creating them on demand requires more logic in the code ofcourse, but also saves system load by not creating 40 frames that never are shown? |
| 19:17.06 | grr | Tho creating them when the player logins makes the code alot easier to follow, debug and work with |
| 19:17.53 | Legorol | if this is your first significant project of this type, i suggest creating the 40 frames at the start |
| 19:18.04 | Legorol | dynamic frame creation can be tricky, and you won't waste a lot of resources |
| 19:18.32 | grr | Well, it's my first project in wow yes but i've worked with UIs in other languages for quite some time |
| 19:18.52 | Legorol | i'd suggest getting it to work with static frames first |
| 19:19.04 | Legorol | converting it later to be created on demand isn't that difficult |
| 19:19.04 | cladhaire | making then dynamic later is trivial |
| 19:19.12 | Legorol | great minds etc. |
| 19:19.14 | Legorol | :D |
| 19:19.20 | grr | Well hmm, i think you missunderstood my question or i didn't form it right. |
| 19:19.29 | grr | I'm already using CreateFrame() |
| 19:19.51 | grr | But my question was if I should create the 40 frames at login with CreateFrame() or if i should create them when they're demanded? |
| 19:21.11 | grr | I'd never type out 40 static frames in XML |
| 19:21.15 | grr | that would make me cry |
| 19:21.50 | cladhaire | i'd create them all at once |
| 19:21.58 | cladhaire | that way you know there's no issue with the dynamic portion =) |
| 19:22.00 | cladhaire | and add it later on |
| 19:22.33 | grr | Hmm yes probably right. |
| 19:22.56 | grr | And i mean i could leave it like that, it's only about those 40 frames and in 90% of the time they will be used anyways since it is a mod for raiders. |
| 19:23.10 | grr | Tho i have this thing against writing non-optimal code, no matter what i'm working with ;p |
| 19:23.32 | cladhaire | i know the feeling, but you know what they say about optimization =) |
| 19:23.34 | Legorol | it's just me but i have an aversion to CreateFrame for static frames |
| 19:23.37 | Legorol | i much prefer XML :) |
| 19:23.50 | grr | PMOITROAE |
| 19:23.54 | Legorol | 99% of people here will hang me for preferring XML ;-) |
| 19:24.17 | cladhaire | Well, define "Static"? |
| 19:24.18 | Legorol | been collecting +agi gear |
| 19:24.18 | cladhaire | =) |
| 19:24.22 | grr | ah |
| 19:24.31 | cladhaire | I like XML for lots of things.. templates rock my world |
| 19:24.39 | grr | Dodging MS from a full Naxx warriors as a mage = <3 |
| 19:24.47 | grr | Fear my 5% base dodge. |
| 19:24.53 | Legorol | lol |
| 19:25.00 | grr | ^^ |
| 19:25.17 | Legorol | anyway, whether XML or CreateFrame, for now make them at login |
| 19:25.31 | grr | Tho creating a dynamic fame pool isn't that much work maybe an hour or so |
| 19:26.08 | cladhaire | You can pull the ace bullshit out of this.. i think it works: http://dump.brokendreams.net/files/PerfectFramePool.lua |
| 19:26.55 | grr | hm thnx for the example I'll look at that for inspiration/ideas atleast :) |
| 19:27.14 | grr | Tho i realy realy don't like libs like Ace/Sea/etc. |
| 19:27.41 | grr | Atleast not for my private work, at the job 3rd party means less work for the same result ^^ |
| 19:28.09 | Cide | frame pools take 1 minute to create |
| 19:28.29 | Cide | cladhaire's is more tailored to a specific type of frame |
| 19:28.46 | Cide | actually, nevermind |
| 19:28.46 | grr | Ye going to create it now and i'll see how it works out |
| 19:28.56 | Cide | it's more advanced, in any case :) |
| 19:29.32 | grr | Btw, another Q when I'm on it - is it possible to get all the child frames that are of inherited from a specific type? |
| 19:29.37 | cladhaire | grr: That one ended up ace because someone asked for it.. most of my stuff is library-agnostic =) |
| 19:30.07 | grr | Example: I wanna get all frames that are children to frame A but have inherited from frame B ? |
| 19:30.15 | grr | s/have/has. |
| 19:30.42 | grr | Not possible without some major looping/logic I assume. |
| 19:30.48 | cladhaire | you can enumerate the children |
| 19:31.17 | grr | are font strings considered Children btw? |
| 19:31.37 | grr | (alot of questions here I know ;p) |
| 19:31.52 | MentalPower|ZZzz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.31 | MentalPower | and you can't get inheritance info directly |
| 19:32.43 | grr | Ok, thanks |
| 19:33.07 | MentalPower | frame:GetRegions() will return textures and fontstring tho |
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| 19:36.39 | grr | will "for i = 1, 0 do end" result in an error? |
| 19:36.43 | grr | or will it just not run? |
| 19:37.17 | MentalPower | dunno |
| 19:37.27 | MentalPower | try it |
| 19:38.21 | Cide | no error |
| 19:38.24 | Cide | but it won't do anything |
| 19:43.02 | grr | yes that's what i wanted, so isntead of doing: "if(var > 0) then for i = 1, var do end end" i can do "for i = 1, var do end" |
| 19:43.10 | Tuller | for i = 1, 0, -1; for i = 0, 1; 1 for i = 0, 1; |
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| 20:19.55 | grr | zomg |
| 20:20.12 | grr | the code got like ~200-300 lines shorter when i put all the data in the frames themselves |
| 20:20.42 | grr | Mikk: You were right, this is indeed a warm and fuzzy place :d |
| 20:22.34 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 20:22.50 | kergoth | silly script kiddies should get a real client :P |
| 20:22.51 | grr | zenzelezz those things makes me cry ;( |
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| 20:26.01 | Fructose | Hello |
| 20:26.36 | Xuerian | Heya |
| 20:26.39 | Cairenn | hi |
| 20:26.45 | Mikk | hello sugar |
| 20:27.14 | Mikk | Pardon, couldn't resist >.< |
| 20:27.39 | grr | lol |
| 20:27.45 | Mikma | Mikk: whom could you not resist? |
| 20:27.56 | grr | Mikk as i said earlier, warm and fuzzy place indead. |
| 20:27.59 | grr | *indeed. |
| 20:30.38 | Mikk | aye =) |
| 20:31.38 | Cide | wait until you become a cold blooded murderer like the rest of us |
| 20:32.35 | Mikk | Mikma: |
| 20:32.38 | Mikk | ~fructose |
| 20:32.42 | Mikk | ~wiki fructose |
| 20:32.42 | Cairenn | don't believe him? should see some of the things done to code around here ... if not murder, definitely torture |
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| 20:33.29 | Mikma | Mikk: so you love sugar and honey |
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| 20:33.47 | Mikk | Did you miss the bit when Fructose logged on and said "hello"? :-P |
| 20:34.03 | Mikma | no ;) |
| 20:34.08 | malreth | hello |
| 20:34.16 | Cairenn | hey malreth |
| 20:35.18 | Cairenn | malreth: you should see a doctor about that |
| 20:36.08 | Fructose | What does the ~= operator do? |
| 20:36.10 | Cairenn | - as the abuse runs rampant in the channel today - |
| 20:36.23 | Mikk | Fructose: "is not equal to" |
| 20:36.30 | Mikk | i.e. "<>" in basic, "!=" in C |
| 20:37.28 | Fructose | Heh. I can't think of many languages that don't use !=. Basic's operator is just funny. |
| 20:37.44 | Mikk | as is Lua's :-P |
| 20:39.10 | Amro | lua's weird sometimes. % for regex |
| 20:39.28 | Mikk | Mmmhh |
| 20:39.37 | Mikk | It makes sense to not use backslashes though |
| 20:39.52 | Mikk | Since you need to escape backslashes with backslashes inside standard strings |
| 20:40.12 | malreth | also remember, Lua was designed by a Brazilian |
| 20:40.20 | malreth | keyboard layout is different |
| 20:41.23 | malreth | but yes, it actually makes more sense to *not* use the backwack |
| 20:41.37 | Amro | they're also escape characters in python |
| 20:41.43 | Amro | and py uses \ |
| 20:41.55 | grr | ever been in php land? |
| 20:41.58 | grr | \\\\ is not uncommon there |
| 20:44.21 | Fructose | Someone helped me with this before, by my file changes didn't save for some reason... does this look right for getting the itemID and suffixID from an itemString... local _,_,itemID,_,_,suffixID = string.find(link, "|Hitem:(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):"); |
| 20:44.57 | ckknight | not quite, Fructose |
| 20:45.06 | ckknight | you're missing a :(%d+) |
| 20:45.13 | grr | not quite sugar, lol (couldn't resist) |
| 20:45.15 | Fructose | I don't need the uniqueID |
| 20:45.26 | malreth | you still have to capture it, though |
| 20:45.32 | Fructose | OK |
| 20:45.32 | malreth | based on your return values |
| 20:45.57 | malreth | your return values expect 4 captures |
| 20:46.08 | malreth | but you're only specifying 3 captures in the regex |
| 20:46.36 | malreth | so, something has to be fixed |
| 20:46.36 | Fructose | I thought a _ was a capture |
| 20:46.41 | Fructose | Just one that isn't saved |
| 20:46.52 | Gngsk | apparently _ is just a variable |
| 20:47.03 | malreth | there's nothing special about the _ char |
| 20:47.06 | End | it is just a variable |
| 20:47.10 | malreth | it's just like a or b or q |
| 20:47.14 | malreth | or bbq |
| 20:47.17 | malreth | i like bbq |
| 20:47.21 | End | it's just the variable that people use when they want to throw away a value |
| 20:47.23 | Gngsk | bbq tastes great |
| 20:48.32 | Fructose | Well, aren't the "item" and semi-colons "captured" the same way as (%d+)? |
| 20:48.47 | Fructose | If not, why do I have so many _'s |
| 20:48.48 | Mikk | no, only things between () |
| 20:49.33 | Fructose | So then shouldn't I just have itemID,_,suffixID? |
| 20:49.41 | Mikk | for that capture, yes |
| 20:49.50 | Fructose | OK. Weird. Not sure why I was given so many _'s |
| 20:51.57 | malreth | > link = "|cff0070dd|Hitem:23091:0:0:0|h[Bracers of Undead Cleansing]|h|r" |
| 20:51.58 | malreth | > = string.find(link, "|Hitem:(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):") |
| 20:51.58 | malreth | 11 27 23091 0 0 |
| 20:51.58 | malreth | > |
| 20:57.14 | Fructose | If you have foo[bar] = {baz qux}; how do you get baz or qux back out? |
| 20:59.55 | malreth | you probably meant foo[bar] = { "baz", "qux" } |
| 21:00.22 | Fructose | Yeah |
| 21:00.28 | Fructose | Sorry, used to Tcl lists :) |
| 21:00.39 | malreth | print(foo[bar][1]) --> "baz" |
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| 21:01.27 | malreth | or print(foo.bar[1]) --> "baz" |
| 21:02.34 | Fructose | Indexing doesn't start at 0? Weird. |
| 21:03.26 | Amro | a lot of gotchas in lua |
| 21:03.56 | Fructose | So these two different kinds of "links" are bothering me... |
| 21:04.26 | JoshBorke | there are no gotchas in lua :-P |
| 21:04.28 | Fructose | How do I know when it's an item string versus when it's an "item id" |
| 21:04.35 | JoshBorke | you just think wrong :-P |
| 21:09.14 | Fructose | OK, now it's broken :( |
| 21:09.28 | Fructose | Oh, wait, I know why |
| 21:09.49 | Fructose | Dang it, I shouldn't have deleted that line... how do you get the full "item link" from an "item string"? |
| 21:09.57 | Fructose | string.gsub(something or other) |
| 21:11.50 | Amro | you have to add in the color and stuff |
| 21:12.54 | Cide | Fructose: string.find(string, "(item:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)") |
| 21:13.08 | Cide | if you want the "item:" part in, otherwise just remove that |
| 21:13.29 | grr | can <Backdrop>'s inherit= |
| 21:13.29 | Fructose | No, no... |
| 21:13.30 | grr | ? |
| 21:13.30 | Fructose | I don't want the parts |
| 21:13.30 | Fructose | I want the whole link |
| 21:13.35 | Fructose | I remember there was some \124 stuff or junk like that in there |
| 21:13.39 | Cide | ah, sec |
| 21:13.50 | Fructose | I'm trying to do ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink(item); |
| 21:14.22 | grr | Cide: can <Backdrops> inherit? ;< |
| 21:14.24 | Cide | string.find(string, "\124c.-\124Hitem:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+\124h%[.-%]\124h\124r") |
| 21:14.27 | Cide | grr: no |
| 21:14.59 | Cide | well, you probably want string.find(string, "(\124c.-\124Hitem:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+\124h%[.-%]\124h\124r)") |
| 21:15.08 | Fructose | I swear it had gsub |
| 21:15.24 | Cide | gsub is for replacement usually |
| 21:15.37 | Cide | you can use gfind if you want to extract many links |
| 21:15.49 | Fructose | Well, I have local link = GetContainerItemLink(bag, slot); |
| 21:15.55 | JoshBorke | clad|football: you here? |
| 21:16.05 | Fructose | The next line was local item = string.gsub(link, something with \124 and crap); |
| 21:16.28 | Cide | Fructose: well, go ahead and use that, then ;) |
| 21:16.58 | Cide | Fructose: actually, use this: |
| 21:17.40 | Cide | local _, _, link = string.find(GetContainerItemLink(bag, slot), "(item:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)") ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink(link) |
| 21:18.08 | Cide | that's what you awnt |
| 21:18.11 | Cide | s/awnt/want/ |
| 21:19.13 | Fructose | Should there be another :%d+ ? |
| 21:19.19 | Fructose | Oops, no, I just counted wrong |
| 21:19.33 | Fructose | Too early here :( |
| 21:21.28 | Kamaris | anyone here use WoWbench? the zip that's available for download doesn't seem to contain the config-dist.lua file |
| 21:21.40 | Cide | ping Mikk |
| 21:21.56 | Kamaris | pong? |
| 21:22.28 | Amro | what's config-dist.lua for? |
| 21:22.39 | Kamaris | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench/Installing |
| 21:22.41 | Amro | you should install lua manually maybe |
| 21:23.13 | Amro | what os are you running? |
| 21:23.33 | Kamaris | xp |
| 21:24.18 | Amro | hm, i never used config-dist |
| 21:24.40 | Amro | i just dled wowbench and ran it with pre-existing lua5, on ubuntu though |
| 21:26.58 | Cairenn | Mikk: ping |
| 21:29.21 | grr | Does textures have Hide() Show() ? |
| 21:29.30 | Gngsk | pretty sure they do |
| 21:32.16 | Kamaris | Mikk: ignore, i'm a tool |
| 21:32.21 | Kamaris | i downloaded the wrong package |
| 21:35.09 | Fructose | I'm still told the link I pass on line 17 is unrecognized: http://wowi.pastey.net/1067 |
| 21:37.29 | JoshBorke | bye all :-) |
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| 21:40.31 | grr | hmm |
| 21:40.44 | grr | if i dont "need" a name for my frames |
| 21:40.55 | grr | but still have to give them one so child frames conflict? |
| 21:41.03 | grr | what's the best way to just give a random name to a frame? |
| 21:41.05 | grr | GetTime() ? |
| 21:41.12 | grr | "RandomFrame_" .. GetTime() ? |
| 21:41.13 | grr | or? |
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| 21:43.24 | Tuller | you need to name the frame? |
| 21:43.27 | grr | yes |
| 21:43.29 | grr | just with anything |
| 21:43.37 | grr | and they're created thru CreateFrame() |
| 21:44.19 | grr | so CreateFrame("Frame", <neednamethatwontconflicthere, Parent, "InheritedFrom") |
| 21:44.30 | grr | the name is not relevant so |
| 21:45.02 | Tuller | parent:GetName() .. parent.lastUsed, where you set lastUsed to something and keep on incrementing it after creation |
| 21:45.19 | Tuller | then you can just do a for loop instead of using GetChildren |
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| 21:45.46 | grr | ok thnx |
| 21:45.55 | Tuller | but, I'm pretty sure you don't need names for getchildren |
| 21:46.34 | Tuller | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_GetChildren |
| 21:46.52 | grr | no but i need to be able to do |
| 21:46.56 | grr | GetParent() on my children to it |
| 21:47.04 | grr | and also, the child names can not conflict between frames |
| 21:47.04 | grr | so |
| 21:47.20 | grr | well i solved it now so |
| 21:48.10 | Xuerian | grr: Just use a index and incriment it before every call. "FrameNamePrefix_"..i :P |
| 21:50.49 | Fructose | So anyone have any clue why mine's not working? Maybe have an idea how to debug it? |
| 21:52.42 | Tuller | local _, _, item = string.find(link, "(item:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d)"); is what you want |
| 21:52.55 | Tuller | the first two returns to string.find are start and end index |
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| 22:20.57 | Fructose | In my .toc, I have ## SavedVariables: INeed, IUse, etc. |
| 22:21.06 | Fructose | And when I try to use them, I get an error about global vars... |
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| 22:21.55 | Fructose | Do I have to do anything besides put it in the .toc? Does it make any difference if it's a table? |
| 22:22.22 | Cide | tables are fine |
| 22:22.40 | Cide | you'd have to give us the error you get, not just "an error" (coding 101) |
| 22:22.47 | Fructose | Well, I'm trying to write to a table and it says something like "Tried to index a global, a nil value" |
| 22:22.57 | Cide | that's not from storing it |
| 22:23.01 | Cide | that's your code being faulty |
| 22:23.18 | Cide | specifically, you're trying to access a global and use it in a context where it's not possible for it to be nil |
| 22:23.43 | Cide | likely: yourTable["something"] = something |
| 22:23.46 | Cide | and yourTable is nil |
| 22:24.05 | Fructose | Cide: Yes, the table is empty. I'm trying to populate it. |
| 22:24.11 | Cide | no, it's not empty. it's nil |
| 22:24.14 | Cide | undefined |
| 22:24.29 | Fructose | Cide: It's specified in SavedVariables. That's why I asked if there was anything else necessary. |
| 22:24.46 | Cide | yes, you need to wait until VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 22:25.12 | Cide | which is an event |
| 22:25.19 | Fructose | Cide: So I didn't need to give you the error I got after all... you could have just answered my question instead of giving me a lesson in Coding 101 |
| 22:25.20 | Mery2 | (or ADDON_LOADED) |
| 22:25.21 | Fructose | Cide: Niec |
| 22:25.34 | Mery2 | and your addon name in arg1 |
| 22:25.40 | Cide | Fructose: you gave me the error after I gave you the lesson in coding 101 :) |
| 22:26.04 | Cide | "Tried to index a global, a nil value" <- trying to reference a table index when the table is nil |
| 22:26.18 | Cide | most of the time |
| 22:27.56 | Fructose | Cide: I guess you don't see my point. Anyhow, moving on, is there a function appropriate for nooping until ADDON_LOADED? |
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| 22:34.38 | Cide | Fructose: then please, elaborate. and no, you need to create a frame and register for the event. local frame = CreateFrame("Frame"); frame:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED") frame:SetScript("OnEvent", yourFunction); |
| 22:35.21 | Cide | yourFunction could look like: function yourFunction() if ( event == "VARIABLES_LOADED" ) then -- Do Stuff end end |
| 22:36.45 | grr | hmmm |
| 22:36.50 | grr | I have a problem with GetChildren() |
| 22:37.05 | grr | isn't it just: "local tableofChildren = Frame:GetChildren()" ? |
| 22:37.13 | grr | and then you can loop that table to get out the child frames? |
| 22:37.33 | Cide | you don't get a table, you get a list |
| 22:37.44 | Cide | local tableOfChildren = { Frame:GetChildren() } |
| 22:37.49 | grr | ah |
| 22:37.54 | grr | oh |
| 22:37.54 | grr | ^^ |
| 22:38.59 | Shadowed | weird, finally got the game to give the you are out of memory, please restart error |
| 22:39.27 | Cide | happens when there's no garbage to collect and you reached the threshold, I believe |
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| 22:40.23 | Shadowed | wasn't even debugging or doing anything new |
| 22:41.52 | Fructose | Cide: The frame I'm dealing with is a child of another frame, so I don't have any way of registering for that event. |
| 22:42.20 | Fructose | Well, any way that I know about, I should say. |
| 22:42.27 | Cide | what's the name of the frame? |
| 22:42.45 | Cide | you can still register an event for it, regardless of what frame it is |
| 22:43.07 | Cide | and if for some reason you can't use that frame, you can create a new one like I did in the example |
| 22:44.30 | Fructose | Cide: I don't see how that would help. The function that's giving me the error is triggered by a button press. The button is in the child frame, and I don't know of a good way to withhold it until an event. |
| 22:45.04 | Cide | Fructose: do you get the error you mentioned above when you manually press a button in-game? |
| 22:45.15 | Fructose | Cide: No |
| 22:45.59 | Cide | when do you get said error? |
| 22:46.55 | Fructose | When I press my button |
| 22:47.28 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 22:47.45 | zenzelezz | I think Cairenn speaks for most of us right now |
| 22:49.07 | Fructose | Oh, I see... I thought you meant a button in general, not mine in particular. I'm sneaking through Dire Maul, so I'm a little distracted. :) |
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| 22:50.24 | Fructose | Scanned to quickly and saw "generally" instead of "manually" |
| 22:50.57 | Cide | Fructose: okay, that is definitely after VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 22:51.07 | Cairenn | un huh, suuuure you did .... |
| 22:51.22 | Cide | which likely means that the table is nil inside SavedVariables too |
| 22:51.48 | Fructose | Cairenn: OK, fine, I intentially lied to confuse everyone. Does that make more sense now? |
| 22:52.23 | Cide | the sarcasm is flooding! |
| 22:52.27 | Fructose | :) |
| 22:52.42 | Fructose | Heh. Just not sure what is so hard to believe when I admit to making a mistake. |
| 22:52.56 | Cide | I believe you |
| 22:53.00 | Cide | and the others likely do too |
| 22:53.13 | Cide | but chill a bit, Cairenn doesn't bite (hard, anyway) |
| 22:53.19 | Fructose | Cairenn might too once it's thought over a bit :) |
| 22:53.33 | zenzelezz | I'll venture a guess that Cairenn was joking |
| 22:53.37 | Cide | she was most likely joking :) |
| 22:53.46 | Cairenn | wow, you really have no sense of humour whatsoever, do you? hi, let me introduce you to a couple little facts ... I tease folks ... it's what I do ... and since we're on the topic ... when folks are trying to help you, getting all pissy because they dare to confirm whether you know something or not before carrying on is stupid. they aren't being insulting, they are just verifying your knowledge |
| 22:53.47 | Fructose | Ah. I'm too distracted to notice sarcasm too, I guess. |
| 22:54.14 | Fructose | Cairenn: Zing |
| 22:55.02 | Cide | Fructose: in any case, your variable is likely nil in SavedVariables too |
| 22:55.04 | Fructose | Cairenn: I don't mind being teased. I'm not pissy. I'm in a very good mood. I'm just a little rushed when typing, so I'm not thinking through how things may be interpreted. |
| 22:55.18 | Cide | so what happens is that when WoW executes your SavedVariables, the variable is set to nil anyway |
| 22:55.40 | Fructose | Cide: Well, it should be nil by default. It has never been populated. I've simply named it in SavedVariables. |
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| 22:55.52 | Cide | okay, so it will be nil |
| 22:56.06 | Cide | you most likely want to define it as an empty table at the start of your file, then |
| 22:56.09 | Cide | YourTable = { }; |
| 22:56.18 | Cairenn | Cide: you know very well that the only time I bite is if you ask reeeeeal nice |
| 22:56.33 | Cide | Cairenn: ;) |
| 22:56.59 | Fructose | OK, so... if (myTable == nil) then myTable = { }; ? |
| 22:57.09 | Cide | no, just myTable = { }; |
| 22:57.17 | Fructose | Well, I don't want to erase stuff that's there. |
| 22:57.22 | Fructose | I do want to save it between sessions. |
| 22:57.25 | Mikk | It won't be there at that point |
| 22:57.27 | zenzelezz | SavedVariables will overwrite it |
| 22:57.30 | Cide | SavedVariables are parsed afterwards |
| 22:57.32 | Fructose | Ah |
| 22:57.34 | Cide | which will overwrite it later on |
| 22:57.39 | Mikk | But, Cide, remember that if a savedvariable is ever nil, it now gets SAVED as nil |
| 22:57.53 | Mikk | So the correct thing to do is to check for it being nil in VARIABLES_LOADED, and if so, construct it |
| 22:57.55 | Cide | yeah, I thought about that.. that's pretty stupid |
| 22:57.57 | Mikk | Yes |
| 22:57.59 | grr | Mikk: i love the frame approach |
| 22:58.05 | grr | it's SO much smoother to work with |
| 22:58.08 | Mikk | Yes =) |
| 23:00.06 | Fructose | So does the <OnLoad> part of my frame happen after VARIABLES_LOADED? |
| 23:00.13 | Cide | no, also before |
| 23:00.37 | ckknight | saved variables are loaded at ADDON_LOADED, not VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 23:00.46 | grr | Fructose: If you wanna do something after the variables have loaded but before the player gains control use the PLAYER_LOGIN event, that's what I do atleasta works perfect. |
| 23:01.09 | Cide | ckknight: VL works just fine for non-LOD addons |
| 23:01.29 | Fructose | Well, since I have my table in SavedVariables, it has probably saved as nil, right? |
| 23:01.48 | ckknight | Cide, true. *shrug* |
| 23:01.57 | Cide | and is in general easier to use |
| 23:02.32 | ckknight | Ace2 does databasing work at ADDON_LOADED, is all |
| 23:02.39 | Cide | I'm sure it does |
| 23:02.48 | Cide | but that doesn't make it a superior way |
| 23:05.47 | Mikk | Fructose: yes |
| 23:06.14 | Fructose | Mikk: So if I just do table = {};, it will get overwritten as nil and my code will still error? |
| 23:06.21 | Mikk | And ADDON_LOADED is really what I should get used to using.... I'm defaulting to VARIABLES_LOADED all the time but only need to re-code the addon if I make it LoD. duh. |
| 23:06.28 | Mikk | Fructose: yep |
| 23:06.36 | Mikk | So check it on ADDON_LOADED / VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 23:06.36 | [floyd] | Fructose: The assignment is performed prior to loading the vars. |
| 23:06.49 | Mikk | [floyd]: And gets overwritten if nil has ever gotten saved |
| 23:07.10 | Fructose | Mikk: Well, that's the problem... I don't know that I have a way to register events with my frame, since it's just a child of another frame. |
| 23:07.11 | [floyd] | Which it will, since "nil" values do get save as of 1.12 |
| 23:07.42 | Mikk | Fructose: Register it in the OnLoad of the frame then. The "this" pointer will point to the frame. |
| 23:08.23 | Cide | VARIABLES_LOADED is better for simplicity, but doesn't work with LOD addons. on the other hand, you need to check arg1 for ADDON_LOADED |
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| 23:08.59 | Fructose | Well, that's why I asked if VARIABLES_LOADED happened in my frame's OnLoad :( |
| 23:09.12 | [floyd] | "this" is not a special keyword in Lua, is that correct? It's just used by WoW, right? |
| 23:09.25 | Cide | correct |
| 23:09.32 | [floyd] | Alright, thanks. |
| 23:10.19 | ckknight | self is lua's standard keyword for objects |
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| 23:12.53 | [floyd] | Good to know, and a bit SmallTalk'ish (iirc). |
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| 23:17.11 | Fructose | OK, same attempt to index a global (nil value) error... http://wowi.pastey.net/1070 |
| 23:17.33 | ckknight | line? |
| 23:18.05 | Mikk | frus: No, VARIABLES_LOADED and the other events "happen" in OnEvent. But you need to register for receiption at some point also. One such good point is in OnLoad. But it can be in any piece of direct Lua code executed after the frame is loaded. As long as you have a ref to the frame, obviously. |
| 23:18.13 | grr | Ok I got a very strange problem, if you look at this picture: http://www.sindrobe.se you will see that i' got a couple of frames with Target/Healer fontstring in them, but the Target/Healer fontstrings turn grey after 2 stacked frames. What is wrong? This is the lua code i use: http://pastey.net/1071 and this is the XML for the frames: http://pastey.net/1072 I have NO idea what could be wrong - anyone? |
| 23:18.28 | grr | oops, picture link should be: http://www.sindrobe.se/strange.png |
| 23:20.39 | grr | Hmm it appears as if it has something to do with the backdrop I'm using because as soon as i remove the backdrop the fontstring dont turn gray in the lower frames - why? ;/ |
| 23:20.46 | Fructose | Mikk: SetScript("OnLoad") then? If not, I'm confused. |
| 23:21.04 | Mikk | Are you creating this frame from Lua? |
| 23:21.10 | Mikk | If so forget all I said about OnLoad |
| 23:21.23 | Fructose | Mikk: No |
| 23:21.27 | Mikk | Ok, XML frame. |
| 23:21.42 | Fructose | Mikk: It's just a child. I sometimes force its parent to open, which also triggers my frame. |
| 23:22.22 | Mikk | <Frame ....>....<Scripts><OnLoad>this:RegisterEvent("VARIABLES_LOADED")</OnLoad>.... |
| 23:22.44 | Mikk | <OnEvent>MyAddOn_OnEvent();</OnEvent> |
| 23:23.09 | Mikk | function MyAddOn_OnEvent() if(event=="VARIABLES_LOADED") ... do init stuff ... end end |
| 23:23.17 | Mikk | function MyAddOn_OnEvent() if(event=="VARIABLES_LOADED") then ... do init stuff ... end end |
| 23:24.08 | Esamynn | Mikk: it's better practice to use ADDON_LOADED for that purpose |
| 23:24.09 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Events_(API) <- very instructive |
| 23:24.13 | Mikk | Esamynn: Yeah I know |
| 23:25.53 | grr | Could anyone look at my problem please? The backdrop seems to be overlaying the font strings for some reason =/ |
| 23:26.40 | Mikk | grr: hm. is "OVERLAY" the best layer for fontstrings? |
| 23:26.52 | grr | hmm |
| 23:26.52 | grr | well |
| 23:26.58 | grr | if you look at the screenshot |
| 23:27.25 | grr | it works on the top frame i stack, but on the 2nd one the 1st row of text gets "grayed" and on the rest all texts gets grayed |
| 23:27.37 | grr | same with the other sub frames they also get greyed out |
| 23:27.43 | Esamynn | Mikk: that is the one that is generally used |
| 23:27.46 | Mikk | nm me, overlay is right |
| 23:27.48 | Cide | "OVERLAY" and "ARTWORK" are the most common places for FS |
| 23:27.54 | Cide | overlay is likely better though |
| 23:27.57 | Mikk | yes |
| 23:27.57 | Esamynn | what Cide said |
| 23:28.17 | Cide | "OVERLAY" being one layer over "ARTWORK", so you can put any textures in "ARTWORK" |
| 23:28.18 | grr | Could it be the fact i'm "appending" the frames to one another with SetPoint("TOP", parent, "BOTTOM") ? |
| 23:28.46 | Mikk | They're eachother's children? |
| 23:28.49 | grr | yes |
| 23:28.53 | Mikk | That will cause the framelevel to go up |
| 23:29.15 | grr | and that means exactly what? and what can i do to fix it |
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| 23:29.28 | Mikk | Well, one obvious solution is to stop making them eachother's children |
| 23:29.35 | Mikk | Just make them children of UIParent or whatever |
| 23:29.48 | Mikk | You don't have to have parent-child relationships just to do positioning |
| 23:29.56 | Mikk | You can do relative positioning between any two objects |
| 23:30.01 | grr | a |
| 23:30.03 | grr | that's right |
| 23:30.04 | grr | ^^ |
| 23:30.22 | Mikk | Parent-child is for alpha inheritance, scale inheritance, and showing/hiding at the same time |
| 23:30.35 | Cide | and for loving and caring |
| 23:30.35 | grr | woho |
| 23:30.41 | grr | worked like a charm, thanks so much :) |
| 23:30.54 | Mikk | Don't ask me why it DIDN'T work right that way though. |
| 23:30.55 | Mikk | =) |
| 23:31.20 | grr | thnx ^^ |
| 23:31.28 | Mikk | Ehmmmmmm I think I hear my pillow calling for me :-P |
| 23:31.41 | grr | hmm same here tbh |
| 23:31.45 | grr | sleep = <3 |
| 23:32.00 | Cide | Mikk: WUSSY |
| 23:32.13 | Cide | you need to be up to at least 6am to call yourself a swede |
| 23:32.22 | grr | Oh, swedish ppl? ^^ |
| 23:32.37 | Mikk | Aye, that's what I used to do. Then Real Life intruded :-( |
| 23:32.49 | grr | Mikk, lies.. the real life does not exist. |
| 23:32.54 | grr | lies, all lies.... damn thee! |
| 23:33.17 | Mikk | It's unnatural I tell you |
| 23:33.18 | Cairenn | night Mikk, sweet dreams |
| 23:33.32 | Mikk | 5 am is a perfectly natural time for me to go to sleep :-/ |
| 23:33.43 | Mikk | Don't even have to try. |
| 23:33.55 | grr | ye ;( |
| 23:34.00 | Cairenn | Mikk: hey, why not, it's more or less the same thing I end up doing 3/4 of the time |
| 23:34.37 | Kirkburn|Vista | One that starts at 3am? :P |
| 23:34.40 | Cairenn | hahaha, good luck finding that |
| 23:34.57 | Mikk | Cairenn: Telecommuting for some US company perhaps? =) |
| 23:35.02 | Cairenn | heh, perhaps |
| 23:35.12 | Mikk | And that'd place you in ... um... China. |
| 23:35.13 | ckknight | cairenn, why're there two of you? |
| 23:35.14 | Mikk | HF with that ;) |
| 23:35.27 | Kirkburn|Vista | You're weird, you go to bed at about 8pm, then you complain about 5am being perfectly normal? Weirdo ... |
| 23:35.34 | Esamynn | Cairenn is cloning herself, run! |
| 23:35.55 | Cairenn | ckknight: one is home computer, one is folks' house, where I currently am |
| 23:36.05 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:36.05 | Cairenn | they are away, I'm house & puppy sitting |
| 23:37.53 | grr | hmm |
| 23:38.04 | grr | if i want a complete black background on a frame / backdrop, what to do? ;> |
| 23:38.10 | [floyd] | Sleep is for wussies ;P |
| 23:38.19 | grr | I've _always_ used the Tooltip background, but i dont want it any longer |
| 23:38.21 | grr | so, what to do? |
| 23:38.34 | [floyd] | grr: Set the alpha to 0. |
| 23:38.36 | grr | is there any black bg texture somewhere? |
| 23:38.44 | grr | hmm ok does that work on backdrops also? |
| 23:39.29 | [floyd] | Speaking from the render kernel's perspective, there's no difference between the different stratas. |
| 23:40.03 | grr | well, how do i set the alpha in a backdrop |
| 23:40.07 | grr | alpha="0" ? |
| 23:40.41 | [floyd] | Probably "transparency", but don't take my word for it ;) |
| 23:40.43 | grr | and i'm talking abut <Backdrop> no |
| 23:41.02 | grr | nope ;( |
| 23:41.33 | grr | nope doesnt work ;< |
| 23:41.53 | [floyd] | "Transparency" maybe? |
| 23:42.21 | grr | <Backdrop edgeFile="Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Border" bgFile="Interface\TutorialFrame\TutorialFrameBackground" tile="true" transparency="0"> |
| 23:42.22 | grr | right? |
| 23:45.34 | grr | ? |
| 23:46.51 | [floyd] | Possibly. But it's been a while since I used XML to create frames, I wouldn't know for sure. |
| 23:47.06 | grr | ;/ |
| 23:47.14 | [floyd] | Not even sure anymore whether or not they are case sensitive. |
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| 23:47.29 | grr | well, this is a <Backdrop> is that realy the same as a normal texture? |
| 23:48.40 | [floyd] | If I had written the render kernel I'd say there's no difference at all. |
| 23:49.30 | grr | hmm but ok |
| 23:49.37 | grr | is there a black texture around anywhere then? |
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| 23:50.13 | [floyd] | Just pick a random one, and merely use the left-top-pixel. |
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| 23:50.50 | grr | smart ;> |
| 23:51.02 | grr | but still... i can't get it to not blend stupid thing ;( |
| 23:51.19 | [floyd] | Hrm.... except............... some graphics boards have a limitation with repetitions/stretching. |
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