| 00:00.08 | Kirochi | I'm an illegal downloader, I'll come to eat your parents and to vote for the communist leader |
| 00:00.19 | Kirochi | *grows horns and turns to Diablo* |
| 00:00.21 | Kirkburn | What, Tony Blair? :) |
| 00:01.23 | Kirkburn | So, er, back on topic - is there much change in 1.12.1? |
| 00:01.45 | Maldivia | in general, or UI wise? |
| 00:01.51 | Kirkburn | UI-wise |
| 00:01.52 | Kirochi | yup, the update takes more time than usual to download |
| 00:02.06 | Kirochi | (or maybe my DSL sucks) |
| 00:02.22 | Kirkburn | Just bug fixes? |
| 00:03.55 | Kirochi | well, I'm off |
| 00:04.07 | Kirochi | it's 2:00 and I have lessons tomorrow |
| 00:04.09 | Kirochi | bye |
| 00:04.12 | Kirkburn | See ya! |
| 00:04.24 | Cairenn | later Kirochi |
| 00:04.34 | Amro | good night |
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| 00:16.53 | Tem | hey Iriel, you around? |
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| 00:19.12 | Iriel | I am |
| 00:20.27 | Kirov | Anyone check out SimpleRaidTargetIcons? |
| 00:20.56 | Kirov | Or, more specifically, if anyone has, do they have any comments |
| 00:21.05 | Tem | Iriel, can you think of a better way to do this? http://www.pastey.net/897 |
| 00:22.28 | Xuerian | Kirov, seeing s it's not on the svn, link >_> |
| 00:22.52 | Iriel | Tem: Hard to say without not knowing that the problem you're trying to solve is |
| 00:23.08 | Tem | I'm implementing a binary tree |
| 00:23.25 | Tem | and I need an easy way to change nodes around without them having a reference to their parent |
| 00:23.37 | Guillotine | Kirvon: So far seems great ^_^ |
| 00:23.54 | Kirov | heh |
| 00:24.03 | Xuerian | No linky? =( |
| 00:24.06 | Kirov | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5353-Simple_Raid_Target_Icons.html |
| 00:24.10 | Xuerian | woo. |
| 00:24.15 | Tem | in c, I'd have node** |
| 00:24.28 | Tem | but in java, I'm looking for a clean way to emulate that |
| 00:24.36 | Beladona | is that the one Qdot was making? |
| 00:24.54 | Kirov | Guillotine - do you ctrl+click or double click? |
| 00:25.07 | Iriel | Tem: Given that, it does seem to be a reasonable approach then. |
| 00:25.21 | Tem | it feels so dirty |
| 00:25.35 | Iriel | It is 8-) |
| 00:25.58 | Tem | heh |
| 00:26.03 | Iriel | I have another approach you could try, one sec |
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| 00:30.31 | Iriel | Tem: http://www.pastey.net/900 |
| 00:32.05 | Tem | I like that Iriel |
| 00:32.18 | Tem | thanks |
| 00:33.01 | Iriel | I think it embodies the goal better than the generic pointer class |
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| 00:41.24 | Kirkburn | Blimey: "Hungary's prime minister has admitted saying that his party lied to the public to win April's general election." |
| 00:41.39 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 00:41.58 | Kirkburn | Methinks he won't be in power much longer |
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| 00:45.00 | Parak | I guess he was really hungary for power. |
| 00:45.16 | Kirkburn | badum-tscchhh :) |
| 00:47.29 | Kirkburn | Time for bed ... see ya'll tomorrow, when I shall be at my uni house :) |
| 00:48.07 | Thrae | Uni house?! *hides precious extremities* |
| 00:48.29 | Kirkburn | uniVERSITY house, fool :P |
| 00:49.29 | Kirkburn | G'night! |
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| 01:43.43 | Guillotine | Kirov: Ctrl+click |
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| 01:52.28 | Fructose | Is there any software to update WoW addons automatically (e.g. downlink from some WoW website and extract)? |
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| 02:10.42 | Guillotine | fructose: yes there is. one moment for link |
| 02:11.29 | Guillotine | http://www.wowguru.com/wgp/ supports WoWI and several other sites I believe |
| 02:11.40 | Guillotine | though it won't work for all addons |
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| 02:30.44 | Guillotine | Clad, if you're not really asleep, I have a giant suggestion for PerfectRaid. You already have a renew symbol, but a rejuv/regrowth symbol would be EXTREMELY useful for those of us swiftmend druids |
| 02:31.26 | clad|sleep | it should be in there.. just probbly isn't finished |
| 02:31.30 | clad|sleep | but i gree |
| 02:31.33 | clad|sleep | agree |
| 02:33.32 | Fructose | Nice. That AddOn just deleted my entire Addon directory, including some stuff I was working on |
| 02:33.48 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 02:33.52 | Fructose | Err, that AddOn Manager :-) |
| 02:33.54 | Xuerian | How, praytell? |
| 02:33.58 | Thrae | Addons can't delete directories unless they're executables... |
| 02:34.01 | Xuerian | -_- |
| 02:34.52 | Fructose | Xuerian: Auctioneer was installed. It said it wasn't. I clicked Install. It said it installed it, but nothing changed, so I figure I'd remove it then reinstall to make sure it wouldn't conflict or anything. When I removed it, the entire directory went away |
| 02:35.39 | Xuerian | Ahh =\ ... damn. |
| 02:36.12 | Fructose | At least it didn't perma-delete everything... it's just in my Recycle Bin |
| 02:36.26 | Xuerian | Almost asked :P |
| 02:37.18 | Fructose | Oh, wait, no it did |
| 02:37.27 | Fructose | The stuff in my RB is old addons |
| 02:37.35 | Xuerian | Crap =\ |
| 02:37.44 | Fructose | It even deleted Blizzard's stuff |
| 02:39.03 | Guillotine | wtf... |
| 02:39.05 | Fructose | Yeah, that pisses me off just a little |
| 02:39.13 | Guillotine | btw, that was a different Guillotine that told you about that >.> |
| 02:39.27 | Xuerian | What addon manager was this, exactly? |
| 02:39.34 | Guillotine | I actually never used it myself. I just saw it every time I uploaded an addon to WoWI |
| 02:39.38 | Fructose | http://www.wowguru.com/wgp/ |
| 02:41.01 | Xuerian | I never could wrap myself around trusting one of those =\ |
| 02:41.11 | clad|sleep | me neither |
| 02:41.14 | clad|sleep | i need source =) |
| 02:41.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | so.. is wow.com still down for like day #4 now? |
| 02:42.08 | Cairenn | working absolutely fine for me |
| 02:42.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'm too lazy to fully spell it out, the main wow site :x |
| 02:42.32 | Mr_Rabies2 | it says World of Warcraft Community site and just stays loading |
| 02:42.47 | Cairenn | I was blinking at the "day #4" part |
| 02:43.26 | Mr_Rabies2 | it was giving 503 errors for late friday, all saturday, and sunday |
| 02:43.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now it's just refusing to load |
| 02:43.37 | Guillotine | I've only had problems with the forums |
| 02:43.38 | Cairenn | us or eu? |
| 02:43.45 | Mr_Rabies2 | us |
| 02:43.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | the forums are working fine for me |
| 02:43.52 | Guillotine | no problems on the main site here o.O |
| 02:43.54 | Cairenn | working absolutely fine for me |
| 02:44.12 | Cairenn | it was a bit slow a couple times over the last couple days, but hasn't been down at all |
| 02:44.18 | Cairenn | the forums have been down off and on |
| 02:44.29 | Cairenn | (yeah, that's new /sarcasm) |
| 02:45.05 | Cairenn | done the whole hard refresh, clear cache, clear cookies, etc etc etc? |
| 02:46.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | there finally |
| 02:46.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | possibly some kind of strange routing problem with my proxy being half enabled or something |
| 02:46.44 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno |
| 02:48.07 | Fructose | So anyone know of another addon updater that won't delete all my files? |
| 02:49.03 | Xuerian | firefox.exe |
| 02:49.33 | Fructose | Yes, very kind of you |
| 02:49.51 | Xuerian | =\ |
| 02:49.58 | Kaelten | fructose, we have one in development, but its not ready yet |
| 02:51.48 | Fructose | What language? |
| 02:53.04 | Kaelten | I think clads working on lua |
| 02:53.39 | Fructose | That's an odd choice |
| 02:53.53 | Kaelten | very :) |
| 02:54.39 | Fructose | I know it's for WoW and all, but is there even software to wrap it with an interpreter? |
| 02:55.05 | Kaelten | oh ya |
| 02:55.11 | Kaelten | lua compiles, and has a gui library |
| 02:55.22 | Kaelten | compiles similar to java anyway |
| 02:55.44 | Fructose | I thought it was an interpreted language |
| 02:55.52 | Kaelten | it is, so is java in most cases |
| 02:55.59 | Kaelten | and visual basic in many |
| 02:56.02 | Fructose | Kaelten: Java is not interpreted |
| 02:56.15 | Fructose | Kaelten: It just uses intermediate code |
| 02:56.31 | Kaelten | which is byte code rant hrough an interpreter/virtual machine |
| 02:56.40 | Thrae | Both Lua and Java use byte-code |
| 02:56.49 | Fructose | OK |
| 02:56.59 | Kaelten | as do the versions of VB I played with a while back |
| 02:57.11 | Fructose | Still odd though. An updater should be a one night project. :-) |
| 02:57.35 | Kaelten | all depends on the ammount of time one has to devote and what tools are using. |
| 02:57.49 | Kaelten | and how many projects one has going |
| 02:58.09 | Thrae | Fructose: What's your version? |
| 02:58.10 | Fructose | Well, time would be 'one night" with Perl, Tcl, or something like that |
| 02:58.21 | Fructose | Thrae: Of? |
| 02:58.22 | Kaelten | :) we'll see |
| 02:58.35 | Thrae | Fructose: An updater... |
| 02:58.41 | Fructose | Simple client/server app with data extraction |
| 02:58.57 | Gryphen | i like how people not coding it say what it should be like |
| 02:58.58 | Fructose | Server stores addresses of packages, client gets list from server, client downloads, extracts |
| 02:59.09 | Fructose | Gryphen: I code for a profession, thank you |
| 02:59.18 | Gryphen | so make it |
| 02:59.42 | Fructose | After I finish my addon, maybe |
| 02:59.45 | Kaelten | anywho guys 4:30 comes early in the morning |
| 02:59.51 | Kaelten | so I'm going to say good night |
| 03:00.00 | Fructose | That'll take a little while though |
| 03:00.36 | Fructose | Trying to get a slot to work and the example I was given (CT_MailMod) isn't clear for someone who is far from fluent in Lua |
| 03:00.44 | Thrae | cladhaire is working on various addon projects, including upkeeping the wowace svn |
| 03:01.08 | Kaelten | Thrae: don't you mean ressurecting? |
| 03:01.12 | Thrae | If you can postpone your addon for one night, then we can see your version. |
| 03:01.39 | Thrae | Kaelten: Bah, SVN was never meant as a mass-distribution method ;) |
| 03:02.00 | KaeltenAway | nope, but it makes one hell a back end/supplimentary distro method |
| 03:02.24 | KaeltenAway | night guys |
| 03:02.36 | Fructose | Well, how's this... if I code it up tonight, will you guys help me with my addon? |
| 03:02.38 | Xuerian | 'Night Kaelten |
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| 03:03.16 | Fructose | Not code it for me or anything, but I don't want any of those RTFM when it's faster for me to just ask you :-) |
| 03:04.05 | Xuerian | What did you need help with on your addon, anyhow? |
| 03:04.14 | Cairenn | you don't tend to get RTRM answers in this channel unless you really really deserve it |
| 03:04.29 | Cairenn | RTFM* |
| 03:05.08 | Fructose | Well, I'd like users to be able to drag an item into a slot, like an inveotory slot, as an easy way for me to get a link to that item |
| 03:05.14 | Fructose | Then I'll just store the link and so stuff with it |
| 03:05.44 | Fructose | CT_MailMod does it, it seems. I managed to get the image of a slot in my frmae before that patcher thing deleted it all... |
| 03:05.53 | Fructose | ...but it wouldn't do anything when I actually dragged an item over. |
| 03:07.09 | Fructose | And that is handled in Lua by a Something_OnClick() command that made reference to a CT_MailModFrame.bag and CT_MailModFrame.item or something like that, and I'm not sure what that means exactly. |
| 03:07.12 | Kirov | Fructose - CT_MailMod wouldn't accept drags? |
| 03:07.22 | Fructose | No, the mod would... my frame wouldn't |
| 03:07.28 | Thrae | What are you doing to do with the link? |
| 03:07.33 | Fructose | Storing it |
| 03:07.34 | Thrae | s/doing/going/ |
| 03:07.48 | Thrae | For what? |
| 03:08.24 | Fructose | Change what its tooltip says and also send it to other players |
| 03:10.01 | Thrae | Do you want to store the link in a database? If not, you can just use the internal item cache. |
| 03:10.26 | Fructose | Yes. I want to preserve it across sessions, if that's the right word for "between WoW boots" |
| 03:11.13 | Fructose | Basically, I want to keep a list of items, send that list to selected others with the same addon, and change the tool tip for each item on the list, for each player |
| 03:11.47 | Kirov | Thrae - he's dragging an item from his inventory / bags to a custom frame and logging the item for later. |
| 03:11.57 | Fructose | Bingo |
| 03:12.15 | Thrae | Yeah, I got that much. I'm just trying to figure out how this addon is suppose to work. |
| 03:12.20 | Fructose | Well, I logged it after they press a button, but pretty close |
| 03:12.22 | sublemon | Does anyone in here know how to hook global keypress events, ie grabing ctrl+alt+shift+PgDn. I know its not an LUA specific question but I can't find much help. And what I google handles one keypress at a time |
| 03:12.39 | Thrae | Fructose: So the intention of the addon is the only register -certain- items, not every item you see? |
| 03:12.56 | Thrae | s/- the/- to/ |
| 03:13.09 | Thrae | s/is the/is to/ |
| 03:13.21 | Fructose | Thrae: Selected items, yes. This is just one method of input. In reality, I just want a really easy way for players to add an item to the list, and I don't know of an easier way than drag and drop |
| 03:13.31 | Kirov | sublemon - You want to be able to press "ctrl+alt+shift+PgDn" and have it do something as if that was a keybdining? |
| 03:13.58 | sublemon | Kirov, true, but it will be handled outside of WoW |
| 03:14.16 | Fructose | Thrae: It would be even easier to <HotKey> + Click, but I wasn't aware of any existing addons that let you select an item that way |
| 03:14.56 | Fructose | Thrae: I've seen /slashCommand <nameOfItem> which I was going to add as well, but that seems rather easy |
| 03:15.00 | Thrae | Fructose: It depends on how big you want the database to be. KC_Items has the current highest level of item database compression, and with roughly 30,000 items logged, my database is around 4MB. KC_Items, and other item databases stores all items without needing any user interaction. |
| 03:15.38 | Fructose | Thrae: On, no, not nearly that bag, I expect. |
| 03:15.40 | Thrae | Actually, wait, my database is around 3.1MB. Didn't take into account the size of KC_Items itself. |
| 03:15.40 | Fructose | *big |
| 03:16.43 | Thrae | So, for what purpose do you expect your addon to be used? |
| 03:16.46 | Fructose | I think most of the game data I need is provided by the game... |
| 03:17.11 | Fructose | ...assuming you can link to pretty much any item without actually having it in your inventory |
| 03:17.14 | Kirov | smaller than my 14meg LootLInk |
| 03:17.20 | Fructose | Thrae: I don't want to spoil the surprise :-) |
| 03:17.47 | Thrae | KC_Items only stores item links and a few stats, and further compresses this information so it's like just storing the item link. |
| 03:18.31 | Thrae | Fructose: Yeah, that's part of the local item cache, which gets cleared at the start of each session. |
| 03:18.49 | Fructose | Well, I have Bagnon, which stores links to items in my bank, which I can view without actually being at my bank. I didn't see any dependencies when I installed it. Would it have to use a DB of some kind? |
| 03:19.28 | Kirov | The WoW client's own item cache database. |
| 03:19.40 | Thrae | Fructose: Bagnon uses a DB to store items from your Bank or other characters, yes. It can optionally use KC_Items. |
| 03:20.01 | Fructose | OK, I guess I'd want to use KC_Items, Lootlink, or something like that, then |
| 03:20.02 | Thrae | Kirov: WoW caches bank item data without you looking at your bank? |
| 03:20.50 | Kirov | no, just item data in general |
| 03:21.02 | Thrae | Fructose: I'm not trying to discourage you, I'm just trying to keep you from -becoming- discouraged down the road |
| 03:21.09 | Kirov | Sorry, semi-asleep |
| 03:21.18 | Fructose | Thrae: I'm not discouraged. I know the functionality is out there. |
| 03:21.46 | Thrae | Kirov: Right, he's talking about how Bagnon let's you view your bank data "from anywhere", this uses a DB. |
| 03:22.43 | Kirov | Fructose - here's the skinny on the way CT_MailMod works. It hooks the Pickup functions and logs the bag / slot location to someframe.bag and someframe.slot. |
| 03:23.07 | Fructose | OK, I don't get the .bag, .slot thing |
| 03:23.22 | Fructose | I'm used to C syntax and those look like variables that I couldn't find delcared anywhere |
| 03:23.27 | Kirov | Fructose - When one of their custom buttons recieves a drag event or is clicked, it does a GetContainerItemLink(frame.bag, frame.slot) |
| 03:23.52 | Thrae | Fructose: KC_Items is made up of multiple mix-and-match modules, so I'd say that's your best bet to start with if you want to make a module/dependency instead of working from scratch. The Auction, Bank, Database, Linker (includes local item cache searcher), GUI, etc. are all seperate modules. |
| 03:24.02 | Kirov | It's a way of accessing variables in a table or user data |
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| 03:25.36 | Fructose | OK. I couldn't see the "origins" of those two anywhere. Do they have to be declared it Lua, or will it just be "non" if it hasn't been set before? |
| 03:25.48 | Kirov | nil |
| 03:26.00 | Thrae | Fructose: frame.bag and frame.slot refer to the frames receiving the drag requests. Everything in the User Interface has a frame it must coorespond to. Even the main game data has a WorldFrame. |
| 03:26.21 | Fructose | OK |
| 03:26.39 | Fructose | So let me re-download that and read it again real quick, else my memory will fail me |
| 03:27.22 | Fructose | Oh, it already did... I meant "not", not "non" |
| 03:28.36 | Fructose | OK, I got lost on this line... if ( not bag or not item ) then return; end |
| 03:29.27 | Kirov | in c that would be |
| 03:29.37 | Fructose | It seems like it's saying if you drag an item over, those would both be nil, but the CursorHasItem() would return true, so it would return |
| 03:29.38 | Kirov | if ( !bag || !item ) |
| 03:29.42 | Fructose | Yeah |
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| 03:30.04 | Kirov | It's an extra line of error prevention |
| 03:30.09 | grimman | Lo all. |
| 03:30.22 | grimman | Does anyone know the frame name of the tower capture timer in EPL? |
| 03:31.29 | Fructose | Well, OK, let me simplify it and maybe you'll see why I'm confused... |
| 03:31.51 | Fructose | if ( CursorHasItem() ) then local bag = CT_MailFrame.bag; if ( not bag) then return; |
| 03:32.11 | Fructose | CT_MailFrame.bag should be nil by default, since it hasn't been declared anywhere else that I've seen |
| 03:32.32 | Fructose | So it's always going to return after that conditional. |
| 03:32.43 | Fructose | ...so long as the CursorHasItem() |
| 03:32.46 | Kirov | Fructose - variables in Lua are global by default |
| 03:33.15 | Kirov | CT_MailFrame is a frame (and a global variable name) |
| 03:33.21 | Fructose | Yeah |
| 03:33.33 | Fructose | I look at the XML and find CT_MailFrame, but no mention of bag |
| 03:33.38 | Kirov | CT_MailFrame.bag got set in the CT_newPickupContainerItem at line 37 when someone picked something up. |
| 03:33.43 | Thrae | Fructose: Almost everything in Lua is a hash. SomeFrame.bag is equivilent to SomeFrame["bag"]. So if a value has not been added with the key "bag", then it will not exist. And everything that does not exist in Lua is given the value of "nil". |
| 03:34.32 | Fructose | Yes, that's still confirming my concern, so far ;-) |
| 03:35.12 | Fructose | In the XML, the scripts call CT_MailButton_OnClick(button) with any interaction (OnClick, Receive Drag, Start Drag) |
| 03:35.45 | Fructose | That function starts with checking for the .bag and .item, which should be nil by default |
| 03:35.57 | Fructose | ...assuming CursorHasItem() is always true in those three instances |
| 03:36.39 | Fructose | So, if they're always nil, it'll always return |
| 03:36.46 | Kirov | Fructose - Here's the disconnect you're having. |
| 03:38.01 | Kirov | The player is *always* first clicking on something in his bag, which sets .bag and .slot |
| 03:38.20 | Kirov | That's how there's an item on the cursor for CursorHasItem() to return true for in the first place. |
| 03:38.27 | Kirov | hence, .bag and .slot are not nil. |
| 03:38.38 | Fructose | Hmmm. |
| 03:38.53 | Fructose | OK, sounds good, but who sets those? |
| 03:39.26 | Kirov | Line 37 of CT_MailMod.lua |
| 03:39.43 | Kirov | which is a hook of an API function that all the Bag UI uses |
| 03:39.57 | Kirov | Anyways, I need to get food. I'll be back in a bit |
| 03:43.25 | Fructose | OK, I see the CT_oldPickupContainerItem = PickupContainerItem, which I find reasonable to believe hooks the API function. I'm still trying to find out how CT_newPickupContainerItem knows to run, but maybe I'll figure it out by the time you get back. |
| 03:44.11 | Fructose | OK, bingo |
| 03:44.22 | Fructose | Other way around, I see |
| 03:46.30 | Fructose | Cool... so can I hack Alt + Click after all? |
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| 03:52.49 | Fructose | If I can do that, I may not even need a slot. |
| 03:56.49 | Fructose | If I get passed an "item" in PickupContainerItem() what would be the right syntax for using ItemTextGetText()? |
| 03:57.54 | Fructose | My first guess would be item:ItemTextGetText() |
| 04:13.35 | Fructose | OK, where PCI = PickupContaineritem, I did... hookPCI = PCI; function replacePCI(bag, item, special) hookPCI(bag, item, special); end PCI = replacePCI; |
| 04:15.00 | Fructose | And when I try to pick up an item, I get... Interface/FrameXML/ContainerFrame.lua: 580: Attempt to call global 'PickupContainerItem' (a nil value) |
| 04:15.41 | Fructose | What am I doing wrong? :-( |
| 04:17.42 | Xuerian | You're trying to use PickupContaineritem as a variable...? Or did I miss the proper call? |
| 04:18.02 | Fructose | I'm just following what CT_MailMod did |
| 04:18.19 | Xuerian | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PickupContainerItem - it requires two arguments |
| 04:18.20 | Fructose | Well, err, trying to, anyway |
| 04:19.36 | Fructose | If I do (bag, item) instead of (bag, item, special) I get the same error |
| 04:20.43 | Xuerian | http://wowi.pastey.net the whole thing |
| 04:21.52 | Fructose | http://pastebin.co.uk/1409 |
| 04:21.58 | Fructose | Too late... was already on my way :-) |
| 04:22.15 | Fructose | I get the message("bar"); |
| 04:22.30 | Fructose | And I change it each time to make sure it's updating :-) |
| 04:22.44 | Fructose | Err, well, I changed it at least once |
| 04:25.36 | Xuerian | If you're defining the function as GR_replacePickupContainerItem, why are you calling it as GiftRegistry_replacePickupContainerItem? |
| 04:27.33 | Xuerian | Also, have you gotten a copy of framexml? |
| 04:27.35 | Fructose | Because I decided GiftRegistry would take too long to type so many times, and only replaced three out four of them, obviously. |
| 04:27.44 | Fructose | :-) |
| 04:27.50 | Fructose | Err, not that I know of |
| 04:27.53 | Xuerian | ~framexml |
| 04:27.55 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 04:28.18 | Xuerian | That error refers to a line in the default interface, and that's it, extracted. |
| 04:28.29 | Xuerian | Helps to see where the wrench is ending up :) |
| 04:29.18 | Fructose | OK. Now, what's wrong with message(item:ItemTextGetItem()); |
| 04:29.57 | Fructose | Oh, one thing for sure... |
| 04:30.17 | Xuerian | How about you paste your entire LUA on pastebin so it's easier to look over? :) |
| 04:30.21 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 04:30.35 | Cairenn|sleep | http://wowi.pastey.net/ ;) |
| 04:31.45 | Xuerian | Night Cairenn|sleep :) |
| 04:32.22 | Fructose | I think I got that problem, though... if I haven't declared a frame of any kind, is there one I can attach variables to? |
| 04:32.45 | Fructose | Oh, crap, I can use local |
| 04:33.34 | Xuerian | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Hooks&printable=yes |
| 04:33.40 | Xuerian | er. -printable... |
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| 04:34.07 | Fructose | Yeah, I already have that figured out... |
| 04:34.12 | Fructose | Onto the basics :-) |
| 04:34.44 | Xuerian | :P |
| 04:34.56 | Fructose | http://wowi.pastey.net/911 |
| 04:35.14 | Fructose | Hmm. Do I need more semi-colons? |
| 04:35.57 | Xuerian | semicolons aren't entirely necesary. :P |
| 04:35.58 | Xuerian | also |
| 04:36.39 | Xuerian | itemName, itemLink, itemRarity, itemMinLevel, itemType, itemSubType, itemStackCount, itemEquipLoc = GetItemInfo(item) |
| 04:36.56 | Fructose | OK. Do I put a local at the front of that? |
| 04:37.01 | Xuerian | yeah, forgot that... |
| 04:37.29 | Fructose | Is that white-space friendly so I can put it across lines? |
| 04:37.39 | Xuerian | You can also itemName, _, _, _, _, _, _ = GetItemInfo(item) |
| 04:37.42 | Xuerian | and should be :P |
| 04:38.07 | Fructose | Oooh, itemLink... this is going to be easy after all |
| 04:39.10 | Kirov | Xuerian - in that case, you "should" just do itemName = GetItemInfo() |
| 04:39.44 | CrazyMYKL | is _ special, or did you use it just because? |
| 04:40.26 | Xuerian | Just because it's what's used all the time, and when was the last time YOU used the variable '_' for anything? :P |
| 04:40.40 | Fructose | OK, well, it's kind of working... I get a window with an OK button and no string printed |
| 04:40.41 | Xuerian | Kirov. You're right. Will a cookie make things better? |
| 04:41.10 | Fructose | http://wowi.pastey.net/912 |
| 04:41.13 | Kirov | CrazyMYKL - just because. |
| 04:41.54 | Xuerian | ok, so what's "message"? |
| 04:42.09 | Fructose | Box with OK button and whatever you input |
| 04:42.21 | Xuerian | I should know that, shouldn't I. |
| 04:43.12 | Fructose | So does that whitespace screw it up somehow? |
| 04:43.21 | Fructose | Not getting the "itemName" part in message() |
| 04:44.24 | Xuerian | because it's not bag, item; it's bag, slotInSaidBag |
| 04:44.41 | Xuerian | GetItemInfo doesn't toss a error just because it wasn't a valid item id :P |
| 04:45.23 | Fructose | Ugg. So how do I go from bag, slotInSaidBag to item? |
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| 04:46.04 | Fructose | Dont answer! |
| 04:46.38 | Fructose | I was looking for Bag Functions in the API, but I found just Container/Bag Functions... so I'm at least *trying* to RTFM |
| 04:47.13 | Xuerian | I don't code for a living. I rtfm XD |
| 04:47.34 | Fructose | Ramen |
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| 04:48.49 | Fructose | So can I change the arguments to (bag, slot) without having Lua complain about prototypes or any of that C/C++ BS? |
| 04:48.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:49.00 | Fructose | :-) |
| 04:49.30 | Xuerian | Heya ckknight. |
| 04:49.33 | ckknight | prototypes? |
| 04:49.56 | Iriel | Fructose: Yes, you can |
| 04:50.02 | Fructose | Alright, good |
| 04:50.16 | Iriel | Fructose: Lua doesn't enforce any kind of argument list, it's up to the called function to decide how it wants to handle not-provided args |
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| 04:59.06 | Fructose | So when you see an item linked in chat and Alt + Click it and get that window with the details, can I modify that window? |
| 05:02.04 | Iriel | It's possible, yes |
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| 05:02.59 | Fructose | OK. I'm on the WoW Wiki, but not sure how to browse to find it |
| 05:03.09 | Iriel | How goes the nodes Tem? |
| 05:03.25 | Tem | I got it all done between wipes on nefarian |
| 05:03.34 | CrazyMYKL | is it possbile to put a cooldown timer on a macro? |
| 05:03.44 | Iriel | Fructose: You'll need a combination of the widget API (Specifically GameTooltip) and some examples of method hooking, etc. |
| 05:03.50 | Xuerian | http://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_GameTooltip - http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 05:03.58 | Tem | and now I'm wrapping my brain around a bash script to make submitting stuff faster |
| 05:05.29 | Fructose | Hmm. Is it wrong to call them "masks" instead of hooks? |
| 05:05.37 | krka | why not make it a lua script tem? :) |
| 05:05.49 | krka | coding in bash is painful :/ |
| 05:05.50 | Tem | because I don't have lua on that system |
| 05:06.01 | CrazyMYKL | use python, then |
| 05:06.01 | Tem | I wonder if they'd notice me putting it there... |
| 05:06.12 | Tem | (or care if they did notice) |
| 05:06.16 | krka | a system without lua? unthinkable! |
| 05:06.20 | CrazyMYKL | no GNU/Linux system is complete without Python |
| 05:06.30 | Tem | meh screw it, I'll just make a srlua script |
| 05:06.34 | Tem | standalone lua ftw! |
| 05:07.30 | Fructose | Anyway, so it displays a tooltip, but how do I integrate that with the Alt + Click on linked items? |
| 05:07.38 | Tem | I should totally submit my lua version of the assignment |
| 05:07.43 | Tem | instead of the java version |
| 05:08.10 | Tem | the whole thing is like 75 lines in lua |
| 05:08.28 | Tem | it's more than double that in java |
| 05:09.15 | Xuerian | Fructose: Look in FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua? |
| 05:09.56 | Iriel | Tem: At least you had a good use for a non-static inner class 8-) |
| 05:10.21 | Tem | actually, that's the first time I've *ever* used a non-static inner class |
| 05:10.35 | Tem | (3 in fact) |
| 05:11.07 | Tem | I was almost tempted to do it in C++ to avoid the pointer emulation |
| 05:11.22 | Tem | but then I remembered that I was going to have to mess with strings |
| 05:11.36 | Fructose | Xuerian: Where do I get those? |
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| 05:12.07 | Tem | and in java I could just work with an <E extends Comparable<? super E>> |
| 05:12.31 | Tem | and let compareTo do all the work |
| 05:12.47 | Iriel | Indeed, compareTo is a delicious thing |
| 05:13.13 | Xuerian | Fructose, they should be part of the devkit I linked earlier |
| 05:13.43 | Xuerian | ~framexml |
| 05:13.44 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 05:13.55 | Fructose | Sorry, heard you mention it, but missed the link |
| 05:14.10 | Fructose | And I get an error on that one you just sent |
| 05:16.31 | Xuerian | http://wowwiki.com/FrameXML .... Has extraction methods there. I know there's download link from blizz somewhere. |
| 05:16.45 | Kirov | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 05:17.56 | Xuerian | Or, that. |
| 05:17.57 | Xuerian | :P |
| 05:18.41 | Kirov | http://wdn.wowinterface.com for the lazy |
| 05:19.09 | CrazyMYKL | foo... i don't see a way to get spell mana costs... |
| 05:21.43 | Kirov | tooltip scanning |
| 05:22.24 | CrazyMYKL | that's a bit overkill, is it the only way? |
| 05:22.41 | CrazyMYKL | you'd think there'd be an API function for it |
| 05:22.55 | Kirov | why? |
| 05:23.45 | Kirov | Granted, it'd be handy, but any time that Blizzard needs to know the actual numbers it can find that from the client internals. The UI never needs to know it apart from displaying it in the tooltip. |
| 05:24.27 | CrazyMYKL | so you could automatically roll back ranks until you found a castable one, without all that UI spam |
| 05:24.41 | Fructose | Would it be ChatFrame_OnHyperlinkShow? That looks like it has to do with HTTP hyperlinks, but I can't find any other references to links or items in ChatFrame.lua, besides AFK/DC links. |
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| 05:28.15 | Iriel | Hey clad |
| 05:28.48 | Xuerian | Fructose: FrameXML\ItemRef.lua |
| 05:33.59 | Fructose | OK, so can I just redefine ItemRefTooltip? |
| 05:34.54 | Fructose | That seems like a bad idea to me, in case anyone else's addon also wants to modify it |
| 05:35.27 | Xuerian | You can still call the origional if your conditions aren't met :P |
| 05:35.56 | Kirov | local oldFunc = Func; |
| 05:35.56 | Kirov | function MyFunc(arg) |
| 05:35.56 | Kirov | do stuff; |
| 05:35.56 | Kirov | return oldFunc(arg); |
| 05:35.56 | Kirov | end |
| 05:35.56 | Kirov | Func = MyFunc |
| 05:37.37 | Fructose | No, no, I mean I want to change the interface... the <GameTooltip name="ItemRefToolTip" ...> |
| 05:37.47 | Fructose | I want to add my own buttons and so forth |
| 05:37.55 | Fructose | Or are there functions to do that? |
| 05:38.02 | Kirov | own buttons? |
| 05:41.03 | Fructose | What's confusing about "add my own"? I'm not talking about SetOwner or anything |
| 05:42.16 | Kirov | right now it has the X button, you want to add others to that tooltip frame? |
| 05:43.55 | Fructose | Yeah |
| 05:44.47 | Kirov | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1563-1-link-wrangler-140.html |
| 05:47.26 | Fructose | Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that overwrite the exiting ItemRefToolTip frame? I want to append stuff to it. |
| 05:48.31 | Kirov | Probably, but yes, you can append stuff to it. |
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| 05:50.29 | DrDre | cant find it on wiki ;/ how you get the item:#### text link from an actual link |
| 05:50.49 | Fructose | Kirov: So how do I append? :-) |
| 05:51.16 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemLink |
| 05:51.18 | Xuerian | DrDrey, that code is both on the GetItemInfo page and in the FrameXML/ItemRef.lua file |
| 05:51.38 | Xuerian | s/Drey/Dre/ |
| 05:51.46 | Kirov | Fructose - make a frame, make the ItemRef "tooltip" it's parent |
| 05:53.25 | Fructose | Kirov: Hmm. But then two addons would conflict if they both used that method. |
| 05:54.20 | Kirov | Only if you name the buttons the same. |
| 05:54.37 | Kirov | It's possible they'll overlap, but not many mods do this. |
| 06:00.45 | Fructose | OK, now I'm confused... |
| 06:00.55 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Ping |
| 06:01.52 | Fructose | I was thinking I'd make my own frame, use ItemRefTooltip as parent, and then hook the SetItemRef() function to show mine instead. |
| 06:02.20 | Fructose | But if that were the case, and someone else hooked the function to call theirs, oen of ours would be ignored |
| 06:02.32 | Fructose | *one |
| 06:04.48 | Fructose | Now, how about this... could I open my own frame that closed when ItemRefToolTip closed? |
| 06:05.16 | Iriel | If you just made a frame with ItemRefTooltip as its parent that happens automatically |
| 06:05.38 | Fructose | Ah. I was thinking parent as in inheritance |
| 06:05.45 | Fructose | Or does that only work when the parent is "virtual"? |
| 06:05.55 | Xuerian | Inherit only works on virtual. |
| 06:05.56 | Iriel | inherits does inheritance |
| 06:05.56 | Fructose | Oh, no, nevermind... here's an inherit |
| 06:06.07 | Iriel | parent is structure for scale/visibility |
| 06:06.16 | Iriel | and anchors/points are structure for positioning |
| 06:06.50 | Tem | ok, I can totally solo the first pull of the (not spider, not deathknight, not spider) wing |
| 06:06.55 | Tem | but I need to respec to do it |
| 06:07.05 | Tem | and I don't have enough gold to pay for the respec |
| 06:07.55 | Arrowmaster | abomination wing? |
| 06:08.06 | zenzelezz | definitely not spider wing it seems |
| 06:08.40 | Tem | oops, I said spider twice |
| 06:08.45 | DrDre | eh that wasnt exactly what i was looking for, i need to find the itemString from the actual clickable link text |
| 06:08.53 | Tem | and one of those spiders was supposed to be abomination |
| 06:09.01 | Arrowmaster | so necro wing? |
| 06:09.01 | DrDre | ie print out the string of any item link in chat |
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| 06:09.15 | Tem | it's the wing that has the ghoul pulls at the front |
| 06:09.25 | Tem | the first one is a 3 pull of ghouls |
| 06:09.34 | Iriel | G'night all |
| 06:09.37 | Tem | that's what I think I could solo if I respeced |
| 06:09.40 | Tem | night Iriel |
| 06:09.49 | zenzelezz | what class? |
| 06:09.52 | Tem | mage |
| 06:09.56 | Xuerian | 'night Iriel |
| 06:10.02 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah thats easyly doable |
| 06:10.13 | Tem | but atm I have frostbite |
| 06:10.23 | Tem | which means I'll seperate my kite and kill die |
| 06:10.31 | Tem | s/kill// |
| 06:10.37 | Tem | s/kill // |
| 06:11.31 | Arrowmaster | saw a video of a naked gnome mage soloing that pull |
| 06:11.39 | Xuerian | DrDre, do you have a copy of FrameXML yet? |
| 06:12.20 | Xuerian | Actually, nevermind, one second. |
| 06:13.11 | Tem | really? lol |
| 06:13.11 | DrDre | not yet as i havnt needed it lol |
| 06:13.15 | Xuerian | http://wowi.pastey.net/914 |
| 06:13.21 | Xuerian | You need it, get a copy of it. :P |
| 06:13.32 | DrDre | yay i got working |
| 06:13.52 | Arrowmaster | i need to get fraps and make a video of me pulling patchwork with eye of kilrogg and no mobs killed |
| 06:14.17 | DrDre | what had confused me is on wowwiki the example left out itemString in the local variables |
| 06:14.25 | DrDre | in the actual example |
| 06:14.39 | Xuerian | heh |
| 06:22.21 | jaxdahl | hahaha |
| 06:22.24 | jaxdahl | someone just told me |
| 06:22.26 | jaxdahl | 'pvp server not rp' |
| 06:23.24 | CrazyMYKL | can macros set thier own tooltips? |
| 06:23.50 | DrDre | thanks for help :O got it all working now, no more retarded guildies abusing AskPrice by checking BoP's |
| 06:24.33 | DrDre | !trunk FuBar_DamageMetersFu |
| 06:26.02 | Fructose | OK, hmmm... so if someone does ShowUIPanel(ItemRefTooltip) and _later_ I ShowUIPanel(MyPanel), which uses ItemRefTooltip as a parent, should that work? |
| 06:29.14 | jaxdahl | lol, it subs AH for LOOT MARKET or SWAG EXCHANGE |
| 06:29.48 | Xuerian | lol. Fructose: Trial and error, it's sleepy time not thinky time :P |
| 06:29.50 | jaxdahl | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4504-1-piratespeak.html |
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| 06:34.52 | Fructose | Xuerian: Yeah... |
| 06:35.33 | Xuerian | Just do a /script ShowUIPanel(ItemRefTooltip) or whatever to show it |
| 06:35.42 | Fructose | For instance, I did ... local link = GetContainerItemLink(bag, slot); ... and later ... ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink(link); ... and I get the error that it's an unknown link type |
| 06:35.58 | Fructose | Xuerian: Well, I'd have to write the XML to try it |
| 06:36.09 | Fructose | Xuerian: And I'm in the middle of AV :-( |
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| 06:37.15 | Xuerian | lol. Well, I don't know what to tell you about the links honestly, I'll just be digging through the docs for something I've never done. For now it really is bedtime though :p |
| 06:37.58 | Elkano | Fructose, GetContainerItemLink will return sth like |Hitem:x:x:x:x|h[item]|h so you'll have to select the item:x:x:x:x part out of it |
| 06:38.26 | Fructose | So it's not a link, it's an itemString they want? |
| 06:39.20 | Elkano | well, item:x:x:x:x is an item link, the other thing is a chat link to an item |
| 06:39.53 | Fructose | Ugg. From the wiki: "item:7073:0:0:0" – Read more at itemString. |
| 06:40.02 | Fructose | Gives me a false impression :-( |
| 06:40.21 | Fructose | Wait... |
| 06:40.26 | Fructose | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.30 | Fructose | "item:6948:0:0:0" |
| 06:41.42 | Fructose | So it really wants the string, not the link? :-) |
| 06:41.44 | Elkano | well, the problem is that sometimes both a refered to as links |
| 06:41.47 | Fructose | OK |
| 06:41.58 | Fructose | Kind of dumb, but OK :-) |
| 06:42.09 | Elkano | look up the functions at wowwiki. It should tell you what it wants |
| 06:42.39 | Elkano | and it's not that dumb at all: why should the api need a localized name? |
| 06:42.41 | Fructose | "SetHyperlink( link );" |
| 06:43.08 | Elkano | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.08 | Elkano | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:16846:0:0:0"); |
| 06:43.26 | Fructose | Yeah, still... confusing |
| 06:43.31 | Elkano | or look at the arguments section of that page |
| 06:43.47 | Fructose | I don't tend to read the example if I think I know what they're looking for as the argument |
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| 06:45.28 | Fructose | So I thought I read someone say getting the item string out of the item link is demonstrated in the wiki... which page? |
| 06:46.29 | Xuerian|Sleep | http://wowi.pastey.net/914 |
| 06:47.01 | Xuerian|Sleep | I think. Then again |Sleep is there for a reason... /em actually goes to sleep. |
| 06:48.26 | Fructose | Stop making me so sleepy >:< |
| 06:48.56 | Elkano | here's what I use: for itemID in string.gfind(message, "|c%x+|H(item:%d+:%d+:%d+:%d+)|h%[.-%]|h|r") do |
| 06:50.13 | Fructose | Cool... working now... |
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| 07:36.11 | Corrodias | oh, man. i just saw an AV premade group in action. it was beautiful. |
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| 07:37.40 | Corrodias | i'm listening to their vent, trying to hear their next game.. i missed the last one |
| 07:37.54 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrHE7nUY5U |
| 07:39.49 | Corrodias | what's this, now.. |
| 07:40.45 | Mikma | GM's go mad on lvl19 honor-contest :) |
| 07:47.26 | Corrodias | amusing! |
| 07:54.41 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z72_-yAPhlc |
| 07:54.45 | Wobin | ~seen mikk |
| 07:54.57 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 3d 16h 51m 51s ago, saying: 'it's from http://www.scifi.com/sfw/news/sfw_news_20060911.html'. |
| 07:54.57 | Mikma | here's someone testing gm-skills at privateserver |
| 07:55.05 | Wobin | =( |
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| 08:08.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Mikma> here's someone testing gm-skills at privateserver |
| 08:08.11 | Mr_Rabies2 | i wish i knew how to use those :[ |
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| 08:17.36 | cmunn | I like pie. |
| 08:30.22 | Corrodias | who is the maia that was involved with Squishy? |
| 08:31.34 | Wobin | maia is maia |
| 08:31.39 | Wobin | Much like A is A |
| 08:34.45 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm maybe i can ame an autoupdate system in WOW by spamming dumpstrings :p in teh secre channel :p |
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| 08:45.56 | Kirochi | Hi guys |
| 08:46.20 | Kirochi | I leave my computer logged but I gotta go now |
| 08:46.23 | Kirochi | Bye |
| 08:47.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | bye |
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| 09:03.12 | Maldivia | Yarr... |
| 09:04.02 | Corrodias | typo on http://wowwiki.com/Dire_Maul : "elder'thalas" |
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| 09:04.22 | Corrodias | Wobin: i was hoping it was someone who is here now. :( |
| 09:06.40 | jaxdahl | fixed |
| 09:07.01 | Corrodias | good mang |
| 09:09.49 | jaxdahl | i'm almost up to 250 edits |
| 09:10.50 | Corrodias | what do you get then? an upgraded edit stick? |
| 09:12.13 | Corrodias | another issue on the Dire Maul page is that all the icon images for the quests are text rather than actual images |
| 09:12.25 | Corrodias | "Image:Horde_15.gif [61D] Elven Legends" |
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| 09:17.06 | jaxdahl | Corr[home] |
| 09:17.18 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowwiki.com/Dire_Maul |
| 09:17.19 | jaxdahl | known issue |
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| 09:21.16 | Dhraga | Are there a list of color names that can be used in the - GameTooltip:AddLine(orange.." blablabla"); - command ? |
| 09:21.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | any color can |
| 09:21.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | oh u mean the color strings :p |
| 09:22.01 | Dhraga | yes |
| 09:22.22 | |FF|Im2good4u | basicly u cna define your own whit |cAARRGGBB |
| 09:23.25 | Dhraga | hmmm... ok, and where do I find those strings / colorpicker then ? |
| 09:24.02 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dunno where the color strings are defined |
| 09:24.08 | Corrodias | AA is alpha, R is red, G is green, and B is blue |
| 09:24.09 | Dhraga | ok |
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| 09:24.58 | Dhraga | And how would a AARRGGBB string with different values for RGB look like ? |
| 09:27.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | well |
| 09:27.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | |cFFFF0000 is red |
| 09:27.09 | Dhraga | Could it look like this ? GameTooltip:AddLine(" blablabla", 1 , .8, .5); ? |
| 09:27.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | it will be "|cFFFF0000blablabla|r" |
| 09:28.48 | |FF|Im2good4u | or local red = "|cFFFF0000"; thne u get red.."blablalbla" |
| 09:29.40 | Dhraga | Heh, looks difficult... not possible to apply rgb colors with a numeric value of 0-1 ? |
| 09:30.14 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm i dunno didnt addtooltip have a r g b fields ? |
| 09:30.57 | Dhraga | Just found this page... dont know it it's old now though : http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_AddLine |
| 09:31.27 | |FF|Im2good4u | [, textColor.r, textColor.g, textColor.b |
| 09:31.53 | |FF|Im2good4u | so u cna use thoe fierlds instead of the |c stuff |
| 09:32.10 | |FF|Im2good4u | like ("blablabla",1,0,0) is red |
| 09:32.20 | Dhraga | okies |
| 09:33.25 | Dhraga | For the values that is lower than 1, shuld I use 0.5 or just .5 ? |
| 09:33.39 | |FF|Im2good4u | '0.5 |
| 09:33.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | 0.5 i mean |
| 09:33.55 | Dhraga | ok thanks =) |
| 09:38.46 | wereHamster | Dhraga '1 / 2' ? |
| 09:39.06 | Dhraga | whereHamster yes ? |
| 09:39.31 | wereHamster | .. instead of '0.5' |
| 09:39.46 | Dhraga | oh |
| 09:40.08 | Dhraga | so either 0.5 or 1/2 is that correct ? |
| 09:42.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | wereHamster: isnt 0.5 better then 1/2 since 1/2 got tobe calculated first ? |
| 09:42.50 | Dhraga | And 0.5 is easier to type ;) |
| 09:43.02 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh that aswel :p |
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| 10:15.07 | ckknight | |FF|Im2good4u, 1/2 is calculated in 5.0, but not 5.1 |
| 10:15.25 | |FF|Im2good4u | well lwe aint at 5.1 yet ! |
| 10:15.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | its still will take a few months |
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| 10:33.25 | Corrodias | 1/2 looks like integer math to me, which makes it - |
| 10:33.31 | Corrodias | er, 0. but that's just me, and most languages. |
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| 12:10.50 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:11.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | Patch 1.13 |
| 12:11.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 12:11.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | Details coming soon... |
| 12:11.48 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeeh :p |
| 12:12.54 | eufemia | where? |
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| 12:13.36 | Elkano | here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
| 12:14.24 | eufemia | hmmm, you think it will come before the expansion? |
| 12:17.16 | |FF|Im2good4u | ofc |
| 12:17.30 | JoshBorke | shiver me timbers! |
| 12:17.31 | |FF|Im2good4u | i realy do think that yes |
| 12:17.59 | eufemia | I hope you are wrong :) |
| 12:18.26 | eufemia | or maybe its the patch to prepare WoW for the expansion |
| 12:19.11 | eufemia | I can already see...new patch..all mods borken, all addon sites in low bandwith, server lagging, no raids, etc....the usual |
| 12:20.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | ofc |
| 12:20.59 | |FF|Im2good4u | but tbc will break addons laos :P |
| 12:21.18 | eufemia | yeah, I know |
| 12:21.35 | |FF|Im2good4u | but yeh they gona be on low banndwitch lol |
| 12:21.44 | |FF|Im2good4u | for osme weeks befroe ui coders fixed thier mods |
| 12:21.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | thats after wowwiki getas updated :p |
| 12:23.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | some1 should make a how to fix your addon for tbc :p |
| 12:23.44 | eufemia | idd |
| 12:24.12 | eufemia | or at least, get us in the beta so we can fix the mods before the release :) |
| 12:24.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh |
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| 12:25.17 | |FF|Im2good4u | lua 5.1 wont be a big problem but iv hear they gone ruing the hooking and that would hurt ! |
| 12:25.40 | eufemia | hooking in what way? |
| 12:25.54 | |FF|Im2good4u | function hoooking |
| 12:26.09 | eufemia | ne...I mean...how are they going to broke it? |
| 12:26.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | i dunno yert |
| 12:26.42 | eufemia | disable it or change the way to do it? |
| 12:26.42 | eufemia | oh..ok |
| 12:27.15 | Dhraga | script If HookExist() then BanPlayer(); :P :P :P |
| 12:28.14 | eufemia | :P |
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| 12:39.40 | Dhraga | A question if the function * IsAltKeyDown() * is implemented correct in this? : http://wowi.pastey.net/922 |
| 12:40.56 | wereHamster | Dhraga, remove the 'then' on line 22 |
| 12:41.15 | Dhraga | Thanks =) |
| 12:46.38 | Dhraga | Laters all |
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| 13:00.48 | [RTE] | hello |
| 13:05.47 | Kirochi | back |
| 13:05.53 | Kirochi | how are you all ? |
| 13:06.36 | JoshBorke | hello |
| 13:06.37 | JoshBorke | wb |
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| 13:19.39 | Kirochi | hi beladona |
| 13:19.42 | Kirochi | still around ? |
| 13:22.30 | AnduinLothar | lol.. this popup add is evil: http://cdn.fastclick.net/fastclick.net/cid50798/true.gif |
| 13:22.42 | Kirochi | I don't like evil |
| 13:22.46 | Kirochi | :p |
| 13:23.14 | AnduinLothar | tell me that is not evil |
| 13:25.05 | Kirochi | I won't |
| 13:25.15 | Kirochi | never mess with Anduin Lothar |
| 13:26.10 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 13:26.21 | AnduinLothar | my javascript is broken :' |
| 13:26.22 | AnduinLothar | ( |
| 13:27.22 | AnduinLothar | lol after so much lua i'm lookign at lists in JS and my brain hurts |
| 13:27.38 | AnduinLothar | liek the scoping especially |
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| 13:28.11 | AnduinLothar | you can assign a global variable to a list index when defining it.. O.o |
| 13:30.21 | Kirochi | is wow the only game using lua ? |
| 13:30.33 | AnduinLothar | nah, couple other recent games use it |
| 13:30.44 | AnduinLothar | wow makes the MOST use out fo it i would argue tho |
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| 13:32.06 | Kirochi | so wow use something else too ? |
| 13:32.17 | AnduinLothar | xml, c++ |
| 13:34.02 | Kirochi | of course xD |
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| 13:59.30 | Kirkburn | Tadaa! Morning all :) |
| 13:59.33 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Ping |
| 13:59.38 | Xuerian | Kirkburn: Woot. morning :P |
| 13:59.44 | Kirkburn | I'm in Bristol :) |
| 13:59.57 | Xuerian | o.0. Nice. |
| 14:00.06 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 14:01.53 | AnduinLothar | lol, i like the counter on my newly resurrected blog... "Only -794 days until summer ends :'(" |
| 14:02.33 | AnduinLothar | I've looked at it and thought about changing it so many time... but it's just so much funnier this way |
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| 14:05.56 | cogwheel | Every other day... Every other day of the week is fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine yeah! But whenever tuesday comes... But whenever tuesday comes you can find me cryin, all of the tiiiiiiiiiiiiime! |
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| 14:06.45 | JoshBorke | ~whaleslap cogwheel |
| 14:06.46 | purl | ACTION beats cogwheel upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 14:06.58 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 14:06.59 | purl | ACTION shakes 42 sperm whales at the forums. >:( |
| 14:07.28 | cogwheel | what? you don't like the mommas and the papas? |
| 14:07.30 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 14:07.44 | JoshBorke | so i decided to solve my timestamp problem i will broadcast the time() results across the channel, take the largest value, compare to the server time, and propogate the differences |
| 14:08.19 | cogwheel | That should work out to within lag tolerances :) |
| 14:08.41 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 14:08.57 | cogwheel | s/g/tency/ |
| 14:11.45 | Kevorkian | josh: I was thinking something similar for mine. every new client of my app initially sends out a request for checksum, I think I'll have every other client also send out their date/time info and mudge something figuring out what time it actually is. Of course I'll also then make fun of people who's system clock is significantly off |
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| 14:12.00 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 14:12.54 | JoshBorke | Kevorkian: yea, i'm going to send out the results of time() when a player logs in along with the latest timestamp. then everyone else will respond with their time + latest timestamp |
| 14:14.51 | AnduinLothar | chat isn't immediate |
| 14:15.05 | AnduinLothar | but you can at least get minute accuracy hopefully |
| 14:15.17 | AnduinLothar | or hour if you're checking timezones |
| 14:15.56 | AnduinLothar | long as you round for edge cases |
| 14:19.12 | Kirkburn | Woot, just been talking to a PlayStation fanboi |
| 14:19.37 | Kirkburn | "But the PS3 will be hench, and the XBOX 360 is hardly better than a PS2" |
| 14:19.51 | Kirkburn | riiight |
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| 14:20.18 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: to be honest, I hope PS3 will flop big times : |
| 14:20.34 | Kirkburn | I can't tell him that, he'll be sad :P |
| 14:20.53 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: I'm rooting for Wii :9 |
| 14:20.57 | Kirkburn | He has 6 months to come around to sensible thinking at least =) |
| 14:21.02 | JoshBorke | o.O time() isn't in lua? |
| 14:21.07 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I'm thinking of getting a Wii |
| 14:21.08 | Cide | JoshBorke: yes it is |
| 14:21.18 | Maldivia | JoshBorke: os.time in lua, time in wow-lua |
| 14:21.23 | Cide | you might have to use os.time depending on what you're doing |
| 14:21.23 | JoshBorke | ah, thanks |
| 14:21.28 | Cide | damn Maldivia! :) |
| 14:21.43 | Maldivia | Cide: hehe, I'm always faster than you |
| 14:22.05 | Kirkburn | Not sure that's always something to be proud of ;) |
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| 14:22.30 | cogwheel | To exercise some Tuesday Morning Pedantry: os.time is in the Lua standard libraries, while time() is available in the WoW API |
| 14:22.44 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: but then again, it's Cide we're talking about... who isn't ? :) |
| 14:22.52 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 14:24.12 | Mikk | Kirkbum! |
| 14:24.18 | Mikk | You at uni now? |
| 14:24.21 | Kirkburn | yup |
| 14:24.29 | Mikk | Didn't take long to get the puter set up :-P |
| 14:24.44 | cogwheel | which uni? |
| 14:24.49 | Kirkburn | Nope :) For t'internet it was just a case of pluggin in the cable :) |
| 14:24.56 | Kirkburn | Bristol |
| 14:25.15 | Mikk | Then again there's not much "moving" involved for most dorms |
| 14:25.27 | Mikk | Bring clothes, bring puter. Plug puter in. You're living there :-P |
| 14:25.34 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 14:25.53 | cogwheel | "what about food?" "Don't worry... there's an inn in the next town" |
| 14:26.00 | Mikk | Anyhoo the reason Rustak was lagging around with the CSS update was that he was on a vacation. A real one. Without internet. |
| 14:26.05 | Kirkburn | zomg |
| 14:26.10 | Mikk | Indeed =) |
| 14:26.23 | Kirkburn | What a bastard ;) |
| 14:26.30 | JoshBorke | wait, what's that? |
| 14:26.38 | JoshBorke | vacation without internet? o.O |
| 14:26.40 | cogwheel | My wife is housesitting at her moms... they have dial-up :( |
| 14:26.55 | Mikk | Urg. |
| 14:26.56 | [1]Xuerian | Ouch. |
| 14:27.16 | Mikk | Visiting my parents was painful til I twisted their arms into getting ADSL :-P |
| 14:27.16 | Kirkburn | Eep? |
| 14:27.50 | Mikk | "Look, you'll be able to stream video from news sites! Very useful! *coughcough*" |
| 14:27.57 | AnduinLothar | lol mikk, that's exactly what my roomie did 1st year. I brought a ton of stuff and he brought a laundry bag or clothes and a laptop |
| 14:28.04 | Kirkburn | It cost me about 200 euros to get ADSL set up in Italy last year :/ |
| 14:28.21 | Mikk | Um. lol? |
| 14:28.46 | AnduinLothar | he didn't even have to plug in his puter for a few hours lol |
| 14:28.56 | Mikk | Swedish ISPs throw free modems after you, and the ones that do telephony also offer rebate plans if you sign up. |
| 14:28.56 | AnduinLothar | well, to internet |
| 14:29.15 | Kirkburn | Laptops are great :) |
| 14:29.22 | Kirkburn | You don't even have to worry about power cuts |
| 14:29.26 | AnduinLothar | damn ISPs in US try to fee all sorts of crap to you |
| 14:29.32 | AnduinLothar | feed* |
| 14:29.40 | AnduinLothar | cable modems are the worst |
| 14:29.58 | AnduinLothar | but digital cable signal recievers for cable tv are almost as bad |
| 14:30.08 | Kirkburn | Mikk, I had to spend 150 euros to merely get the line activated :/ Then the router setup cost about another 50, and it all took about 3 months from start to finish ... |
| 14:30.15 | Mikk | o.O |
| 14:30.22 | Mikk | Backwards people |
| 14:30.40 | AnduinLothar | and then when you figure out 3 months later they're upping the price to the "normal" price of $30 more than you were paying.. |
| 14:30.49 | Kirkburn | 150 euros to get the phone line activated, not even anything to do with the internet. Just so that it could be used at all ... |
| 14:31.05 | malreth | hmm... i did something wrong... backspace no workie... |
| 14:31.12 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 14:31.22 | Mikk | I hope we're talking terminal emulation here |
| 14:31.24 | cogwheel | wtf? I'm getting my internet service from a monopoly cable company and still got a better deal than that... Free installation, first year at $30/month |
| 14:31.26 | AnduinLothar | that was the one thing i like about cable.. no phone line |
| 14:31.30 | Mikk | Getting backspace to stop working in windows takes hardcore hacking :-P |
| 14:31.31 | Kirkburn | Seriously, if you want a country where things are done quickly, simply, cheaply ... do NOT go to italy. |
| 14:31.46 | AnduinLothar | we all have cell phones anyway |
| 14:32.03 | AnduinLothar | 7 cell phones >> 1 land line |
| 14:32.12 | Kirkburn | I barely even touch a fixed line fone now |
| 14:32.21 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 14:32.30 | AnduinLothar | ya and vent |
| 14:32.36 | malreth | ah... there. works again. |
| 14:32.44 | Mikk | Actually, that... uhm... feckit whatsitsname |
| 14:32.44 | Kirkburn | First year at Uni I was in student halls - had an *amazing* internet connection |
| 14:32.45 | AnduinLothar | phone lines are going bye bye |
| 14:32.53 | Mikk | Dial-via-Internet thingy |
| 14:33.00 | Mikk | The one that lets you dial real phones abroad |
| 14:33.19 | Mikk | Anyway... it works well was what I was going to say =) |
| 14:33.20 | Kirkburn | I think the Bristol halls are now all on 100Mbit connections |
| 14:33.35 | Mikk | I've been using it to call my brother in england |
| 14:33.38 | Mikk | Cheap =) |
| 14:33.53 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 14:34.12 | Kirkburn | England is where all the best people are anyway ... |
| 14:34.18 | Mikk | Me > my brother |
| 14:34.34 | Kirkburn | Owwie! |
| 14:34.42 | Mikk | His my kid brother dangit :-P |
| 14:34.47 | Mikk | He's |
| 14:35.06 | Kirkburn | Well, he's probably nicer than you and doesn't kick people :/ |
| 14:35.19 | Kirkburn | meanie |
| 14:35.19 | AnduinLothar | yeah so i found out lua's default table.sort sucks |
| 14:35.29 | Mikk | Nah, he just lies and weasels his ways into high-paying positions in large multinational companies :-P |
| 14:35.34 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 14:35.43 | AnduinLothar | errors if you have different types of keys |
| 14:35.50 | AnduinLothar | er values |
| 14:36.01 | AnduinLothar | (1 < "string") = boom! |
| 14:36.11 | cogwheel | AnduinLothar: that's why you have the option to write your own comparison function |
| 14:36.50 | Mikk | Went from exchange student to telemarketing slave to regional aftermarketing manager for Proctor & Gamble. All mouth :-P |
| 14:36.53 | AnduinLothar | i mean come on.. how much harder is if (type(a) ~= type(b)) then return (type(a) < type(b)) else return (a < b); end |
| 14:37.07 | Kirkburn | wow |
| 14:37.16 | [RTE] | cyde, you here? |
| 14:37.18 | TS|Skrom | anyone else get angels and beer? |
| 14:37.44 | krka | is that luas fault or your fault? |
| 14:37.53 | cogwheel | AnduinLothar: well, for one thing, i'm pretty sure it's implemented in C... For another, it's probably designed to be efficient in its default modes. So if it comes across a string at the first index, it will sort based on strings... |
| 14:38.30 | cogwheel | it would be a pretty significant performance hit for sorting integer values if it had to check for the posibilities of other types |
| 14:38.55 | AnduinLothar | ok... but how often is sort called.. really |
| 14:39.31 | cogwheel | i think it's less of a "how often" and more of a "on how large a data set" ... besides, it really depends on the application... |
| 14:39.50 | AnduinLothar | stilly silly imo |
| 14:40.21 | cogwheel | not from the point of view of someone who spent his early programming endeavors attempting to write the most processor-efficient code possible ;) |
| 14:40.22 | AnduinLothar | since lua allows multiple value types in lists |
| 14:40.22 | [RTE] | you there? |
| 14:40.33 | cogwheel | [RTE]: you spelled it wrong the first time :P |
| 14:40.33 | Cide | yes, but slapping is hardly a good way to open a conversation :P |
| 14:40.44 | Cide | (16:37:16) ([RTE]) cyde, you here? <- wtg |
| 14:40.46 | AnduinLothar | fish face! |
| 14:40.49 | [RTE] | oops, sorry :) |
| 14:41.06 | [RTE] | I'm still half asleep |
| 14:41.15 | cogwheel | and it's tuesday |
| 14:41.23 | [RTE] | yeah ... |
| 14:42.09 | [RTE] | so, Cide, did you talk with Tg? |
| 14:42.11 | cogwheel | Man... the solution to one of my addon's problems came to me in a dream, and i couldn't even test if it works! :( |
| 14:42.12 | malreth | hmm... utf8 no workie in my terminal |
| 14:42.26 | Cide | Ts? ;) no, not yet |
| 14:42.30 | [RTE] | Ts I mean :) |
| 14:42.44 | [RTE] | alright, I have a working prototype |
| 14:43.39 | [RTE] | ~seen amro |
| 14:43.53 | purl | amro <n=Amro@82.101.184.149> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 14h 39m 19s ago, saying: 'good night'. |
| 14:43.53 | Cide | feel free to mail it to me if you want |
| 14:44.08 | [RTE] | I still have several things to add |
| 14:46.52 | [RTE] | never worked with communication chanels before that, so it was fun developing it :) |
| 14:50.48 | [RTE] | mmm, coffeeeeeee |
| 14:51.15 | Kirkburn | One great thing about being here is that I o longer need fear random router restarts! :D |
| 14:51.26 | Kirkburn | s/ o/ no/ |
| 14:51.54 | [RTE] | Question: is OnUpdate called only on shown frames? |
| 14:52.12 | Cide | yes |
| 14:52.17 | Cide | visible frames |
| 14:52.51 | [RTE] | good, so if I do not want it to be "updated" I can just frame:Hide() it, correct |
| 14:52.58 | Cide | yes |
| 14:53.38 | [RTE] | sweet, thats solves this problem |
| 14:55.32 | cogwheel | Hehe... don't you just love obfuscated C e-mail signatures? http://wowi.pastey.net/928 |
| 14:57.38 | Kirkburn | I need to buy a new keyboard - anyone have any suggestions? |
| 14:58.07 | cogwheel | http://www.ergocanada.com/products/keyboards/dvortyboard_ergonomic.html |
| 14:58.16 | krka | that's some freaky c |
| 14:58.38 | [RTE] | is that another one of those "hello world" things? |
| 14:58.52 | cogwheel | Nope... it's a full Brainfuck interpreter... |
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| 14:59.08 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.08 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck |
| 14:59.20 | krka | why dont we use bf instead of lua? it has much less overhead |
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| 14:59.48 | cogwheel | but much more "over THE head"... |
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| 15:00.23 | nevcairiel | brainfuck is teh crazy |
| 15:00.35 | [RTE] | Cide, would you want gui in that addon, or just shell commands? |
| 15:01.01 | Cide | no gui will do |
| 15:01.51 | [RTE] | alrighty |
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| 15:04.18 | malreth | set recode off |
| 15:04.21 | malreth | bah |
| 15:06.13 | cogwheel | bbl |
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| 15:09.41 | malreth | hmm... can't get irssi to send utf8 text |
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| 15:10.05 | Kirkburn | Heehee, gorgeous backflipping hamsters! :) http://www.funnyanimalblog.com/index.php/hamster-videos/the-amazing-back-flipping-hamster/ |
| 15:10.17 | malreth | 何 |
| 15:11.22 | malreth | bah... |
| 15:11.44 | Kirkburn | I got a-umlaut 1/2 |
| 15:12.06 | malreth | same here |
| 15:12.13 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 15:12.16 | malreth | it should be the kanji for 'nani' in japanese |
| 15:12.27 | malreth | brb |
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| 15:13.20 | malreth | 日本語 |
| 15:13.34 | malreth | now that works... |
| 15:14.04 | malreth | oh well... i like Colloquy better anyways |
| 15:14.23 | Kirkburn | I got lines in boxes, but probably if it was put together it would look right |
| 15:14.34 | malreth | and i can tunnel the IRC connection anyway |
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| 15:14.56 | malreth | could be your font, then |
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| 15:16.44 | Kirkburn | Consolas, may not be a finalised font yet (it's from the Vista and Office betas) |
| 15:16.55 | Xuerian | Which font? |
| 15:17.26 | Kirkburn | I'm confused, because I'm pretty sure I just said ... :P |
| 15:17.39 | Xuerian | No, no, I'm just not awake. |
| 15:17.40 | Xuerian | XD |
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| 15:18.33 | Kirkburn | Apparently it's Consolas version 1, but I may just be missing the extra language chars |
| 15:19.30 | malreth | or maybe it's Microsoft Japanese |
| 15:19.45 | malreth | they do have that whole "embrace, extend, extinguish" mentality |
| 15:19.49 | Kirkburn | Heh |
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| 15:23.00 | Xuerian | lol. I use Calibri and it doesn't show japanese characters, also tried swapping to Comic Sans. Perhaps Arial or similar would show it. |
| 15:23.45 | [RTE] | later folks, class time |
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| 15:26.38 | malreth | i'm using Lucida Grande |
| 15:26.54 | malreth | i should probably install Myriad on this computer, though |
| 15:27.21 | Kirkburn | I even tried courier, didn't help. Oddness. |
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| 15:28.07 | thr | The border that the chat frames use? the black/darkish one, is that a texture or something else because i can't find it in the interface art folders in the blizzy ui thingy? |
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| 15:28.27 | Legorolo | any sign of 1.12.1 going live today? |
| 15:29.03 | Kirkburn | None that I've seen |
| 15:29.30 | Mr_Rabies2|away | the ptrs are still up |
| 15:29.32 | Mr_Rabies2|away | so i doubt it |
| 15:31.55 | malreth | thr: Interface\ChatFrame\ChatFrameBorder |
| 15:31.59 | malreth | that seems to be the file |
| 15:32.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | i got a stoopid prob lol |
| 15:32.47 | Kirkburn | I sense confidence in you, young Padawan |
| 15:32.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | i lost onwe of my 7 chat windows :( |
| 15:32.50 | |FF|Im2good4u | it think its off screen |
| 15:32.51 | |FF|Im2good4u | so i cant delete and recreate it |
| 15:33.07 | |FF|Im2good4u | does someone know a way to fix it :p |
| 15:33.24 | thr | malreth, well.. it's not. |
| 15:33.37 | thr | i tried to use it as an edge file for a backdrop but it looks.. well, VERY strange |
| 15:33.46 | malreth | it's not a edge file |
| 15:33.54 | thr | hmm ok |
| 15:33.57 | thr | how do I apply it? |
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| 15:34.13 | Corrodias | chat window? delete your chat-cache.txt file or restore it from a backup |
| 15:34.15 | malreth | FloatingChatFrame.xml uses sections of that file to texture the edges of the chat frame |
| 15:34.33 | Corrodias | i think that might be it... make a copy of it first. after that, try layout-cache.txt |
| 15:34.59 | malreth | it does that because each edge of the chat frame is technically a button |
| 15:35.00 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm where are those files if i may ask ? |
| 15:35.00 | thr | ah ok |
| 15:35.00 | malreth | well, not "technically" |
| 15:35.03 | malreth | they *are* buttons |
| 15:35.07 | thr | okies |
| 15:35.08 | thr | thnx |
| 15:35.15 | Corrodias | .\WTF\Account\<accountname>\<realmname>\<charactername> |
| 15:35.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | k |
| 15:36.57 | Corrodias | hmm. the realm list is empty. i wonder if the maintenance period hasn't ended, yet. |
| 15:37.24 | Elkano | hmm... 1.12.1 today? |
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| 15:37.29 | malreth | no, probably not |
| 15:38.24 | Elkano | good... so more time to become 40 and learn cheap riding skills ;) |
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| 15:38.49 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm funny.. the chache list 10 chat windows :P |
| 15:40.42 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeeh fixed it whitout a delete :p i had to add a docket position |
| 15:41.05 | Corrodias | http://wowwiki.com/Image:DevilsaurLeather.png : "forbidden" |
| 15:41.29 | Kirkburn | strange |
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| 15:41.38 | [floyd] | How do I find out whether I'm inside or outside? I registered for MINIMAP_UPDATE_ZOOM but what to do if the CVars minimapZoom and minimapInsideZoom are identical? Or is there anything more reliable in 1.12? |
| 15:41.40 | Kirkburn | oh yeah |
| 15:41.48 | Kirkburn | Corrodias, add www. |
| 15:41.59 | Osagasu | . . . |
| 15:42.08 | Kirkburn | It's a known problem |
| 15:42.16 | Corrodias | not be me :( |
| 15:42.18 | Corrodias | *by |
| 15:42.46 | Kirkburn | well, it's known to the admins ;) |
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| 15:47.19 | Kirochi | Sup buddies |
| 15:47.45 | Kirkburn | Hullo |
| 15:48.05 | Kirochi | Just can't wait to play a Troll mage on a chocobo xD |
| 15:48.47 | Kirkburn | What chocobos? I've seen no chocobo-like creatures at all! Nowhere. Not at all. Nuh-uh. ;) |
| 15:48.51 | Kirochi | ^^ |
| 15:48.59 | Kirochi | read my post |
| 15:49.08 | Kirochi | on the c*****ce page |
| 15:49.41 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 15:49.43 | Osagasu | YARR! |
| 15:50.12 | Kirochi | Avast ! Another piratey |
| 15:50.30 | Kirkburn | Be they looking good, those cockatrices! |
| 15:50.57 | Kirkburn | ((why is it my pirate speak always starts sounding like Yoda??)) |
| 15:51.04 | Kirochi | :P |
| 15:51.11 | Kirochi | May the mana be with you |
| 15:51.25 | Osagasu | Because ye be a landlubber in digsuise! |
| 15:51.25 | Kirochi | (indeed the mana is the force) |
| 15:51.52 | Kirkburn | Aieee! *splash* |
| 15:51.56 | Kirochi | Shiver me timber ! Shut ye sassy land-dweller ! |
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| 15:52.28 | Kirkburn | Tick tock tick tock tick tock |
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| 15:52.47 | Kirochi | xD |
| 15:52.58 | Kirochi | This was a croco |
| 15:53.24 | PeterPan | :-) |
| 15:53.26 | Kirochi | Hi Capin ! A donde ponemos el rumbo ? |
| 15:53.42 | Industrial | eep |
| 15:53.43 | Industrial | :D |
| 15:53.56 | Industrial | YARRRR |
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| 15:56.03 | Kevorkian | C is for cookie, that's good enough for me |
| 15:56.45 | Osagasu | Now then, now then, now then, what's all this .. then? |
| 15:57.11 | CapnOsagasu | ((Change back for a sec)) |
| 15:57.43 | BonesawKevorkian | arrr, ye scurvy dog, I'll cut 'o yer mangy arm and put a hook in 's place |
| 15:57.53 | CapnOsagasu | Yarr! Pretendin to be a capn, Ah made im walk da PLANK! |
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| 15:58.33 | Kirkburn | Dammit, I should have seen that coming |
| 15:59.43 | CapnOsagasu | The seas don't like ye acting like her capn, landlubber. |
| 16:00.01 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 16:00.14 | BonesawKevorkian | I love TLAPD |
| 16:00.57 | Kiro_the_one | The Kraken will eath thine crappy boat'n make yer barrels empty for at least' a million years |
| 16:01.18 | Kiro_the_one | No rum for Captain KIrkbum |
| 16:02.54 | Kirkburn | Next seadog who adds 'bum' to the end of my name gets run through with a piratey sword :) |
| 16:03.29 | BonesawKevorkian | what's the penalty for adding "out"? |
| 16:03.33 | TS|Skrom | pirates don't say "piratey" mate |
| 16:03.51 | Kirkburn | I'm Peter Pan, so I'm excused |
| 16:03.55 | Kirochi | D4 @ZZ8|²1gA PWNZ j00r s700pId Zw0rD ! |
| 16:04.13 | TS|Skrom | NINJA VANISH |
| 16:04.14 | BonesawKevorkian | ouch, wrong kind of pirate |
| 16:04.33 | Kirochi | Yup, troll pirate |
| 16:04.50 | Kirochi | Bloodsail Buccaneer |
| 16:05.06 | Kirkburn | Heyy! I could get a G15 |
| 16:05.08 | TS|Skrom | my little newphew who has autism went trick or treating as a pirate last year |
| 16:05.27 | TS|Skrom | he went up to this one lady's door and she was all "oh how cute a little pirate! Where are your buccaneers?" |
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| 16:05.40 | TS|Skrom | now with his autism he doesn't understand people some times... and said "huh? |
| 16:05.41 | Kirkburn | Anyone here have a G15? |
| 16:05.52 | TS|Skrom | She said, "your buccaneers, where are they?" |
| 16:06.02 | BonesawKevorkian | on the side of my buccinhead |
| 16:06.05 | Kirochi | I ate them :p |
| 16:06.08 | TS|Skrom | to which he replied "My buccaneers are right here on my buccinhead" |
| 16:06.11 | TS|Skrom | damn >< |
| 16:06.16 | Kirkburn | hahaha |
| 16:06.30 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:06.57 | Kirochi | Halloween was definitely not made for pirates (= |
| 16:07.31 | TS|Skrom | are you kidding? |
| 16:07.45 | TS|Skrom | what other day do you get to pillage the neighborhood and get treated like a prince? |
| 16:07.57 | Kirochi | every day when you're a child |
| 16:08.06 | TS|Skrom | but not when you are a pirate |
| 16:08.11 | TS|Skrom | hence why halloween is perfect for them |
| 16:08.20 | Kirochi | children don't get hung |
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| 16:08.59 | TS|Skrom | real pirates don't get hung either |
| 16:09.09 | TS|Skrom | they always have a daring escape plan at the last moment |
| 16:09.18 | Kirochi | except for ... |
| 16:09.58 | Kirochi | for everyone else than Johnny Depp |
| 16:10.13 | TS|Skrom | those people aren't really pirates, they are ninja's in disguise |
| 16:10.30 | |FF|Im2good4u | anyone know how to make the craft frame show catogory's ? |
| 16:10.38 | Kirochi | :p |
| 16:11.15 | Kirochi | AlLY N1nJ4h r0x0r y3r b0xez |
| 16:12.09 | TS|Skrom | Yarrrr matey, ye be goin' down ta davey joneses locker fer that remark |
| 16:12.35 | Kirochi | aw yeaaah *_ù |
| 16:13.20 | Kirochi | Ye mus be a really sick one to threat a poor sailor |
| 16:13.57 | Kirochi | Why wouldn't we be allowed to be part of a third faction ? A pirate one ? |
| 16:14.13 | Kirochi | With goblins and members of all the other races ? |
| 16:14.39 | Kirochi | I'm tired to kill Night Elves just duelling them |
| 16:14.46 | Kirochi | And I won't reroll Horde-side |
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| 16:16.15 | Kirochi | anyway |
| 16:16.39 | Kirkburn | I thought you wanted a troll mage on a chocobo :P |
| 16:16.42 | Kirochi | yeah |
| 16:16.43 | Kirochi | but |
| 16:16.49 | Kirkburn | no |
| 16:16.49 | Kirkburn | but |
| 16:16.56 | Kirkburn | yeah? |
| 16:16.56 | Kirochi | Trolls were not meant to be with the HOrde |
| 16:17.31 | Kirochi | They are an entire faction |
| 16:17.45 | Kirkburn | True, there are many many trolls |
| 16:18.08 | Kirochi | even more than orcs |
| 16:18.10 | Beladona | one could argue that Orcs are an entire faction as well. But they allied with other races to create the "Horde" |
| 16:18.42 | Kirochi | trolls are the only arcane-wielding race which never fell to demonic magic |
| 16:18.50 | TS|Skrom | we call them "trolls" but really the horde trolls are only the Darkspear clan, right? |
| 16:18.55 | Beladona | Trolls are a race, more than a faction. As a civilization, their "empire" crumbled before the events of warcraft3 |
| 16:18.58 | Kirkburn | TS|Skrom, indeed |
| 16:19.18 | Kirochi | they had 2 empires |
| 16:19.29 | TS|Skrom | Although the Horde has contact with the trolls fromt he hinterlands they aren't actually members of the horde |
| 16:19.30 | Kirkburn | (Unlike gnomes which are both a race and factions together, I suppose) |
| 16:19.39 | cogwheel | Gnomes 4tw! |
| 16:19.56 | Beladona | Gnomes, a flavor for all seasons! |
| 16:19.59 | Beladona | oh |
| 16:20.04 | Kirochi | nup, there are many gnomes siding with the scourge, the dark iron and the neutral factions |
| 16:20.14 | TS|Skrom | that's dwarf |
| 16:20.21 | Kirochi | nay |
| 16:20.30 | Kirkburn | *Most* are in the one faction though :P |
| 16:20.31 | TS|Skrom | really? I've never seen a dark iron gnome XD |
| 16:20.37 | Kirochi | the leper gnomes under mekgineer serve the dark iron |
| 16:20.51 | Kirkburn | They do? I never knew ... |
| 16:20.51 | Beladona | can you really call that a faction? |
| 16:20.59 | Beladona | that was a corruption of gnomes |
| 16:21.10 | Codayus | Well, there's a DI ambassador in Gnomregan, yeah? |
| 16:21.14 | Kirochi | as for the undead ones |
| 16:21.19 | Codayus | Wasn't sure how close the relationship was. |
| 16:21.19 | Kirochi | yes |
| 16:21.23 | TS|Skrom | well there's some factions that will of course never be given an actual factio n ranking |
| 16:21.33 | TS|Skrom | Defias Brotherhood for example is a 'faction' of human |
| 16:21.40 | Codayus | If you hang out in Silithus, you can bump into all sorts of Twilight Hammer cultists too. |
| 16:21.51 | Kirochi | the DI helped Thermaplugg telling him where to dig to release the Troggs |
| 16:22.41 | Xuerian | Go Blizzard: Server shutdown in [15:00]. <Disconnected> |
| 16:22.49 | Kirochi | ok now for a quizz |
| 16:23.06 | zenzelezz | Xuerian: time passes quickly when you're having fun |
| 16:23.08 | Kirochi | Who can tell which faction is led by a Night Elf supported by an Orc ? |
| 16:24.01 | Kirochi | (multiracial factions are lots of fun) |
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| 16:24.15 | Codayus | Not sure if you'd want to draw a distinction between "distinct" factions like the different Troll tribes, and more ad hoc factions like Twilights Hammer though... |
| 16:25.08 | Kirkburn | Factions are groups of people with a hierarchy and leader, whereas troll tribes do not all come under one leader |
| 16:25.16 | TS|Skrom | Kirochi one of the pirate ones? |
| 16:25.28 | Kirochi | well, members of different npc factions never attack themselves and league against you when you fight members of both |
| 16:25.31 | Codayus | Actually, shouldn't any single tribe have a single leader? |
| 16:25.43 | zenzelezz | that's up to the tribe |
| 16:25.45 | Kirochi | TS|Skrom Nay |
| 16:25.51 | zenzelezz | there are leaderless tribes in the world |
| 16:26.13 | Kirkburn | Codayus, I meant in terms of like Sand troll, Jungle trolls, rather than, say, Revantusk |
| 16:26.22 | Codayus | Ah. |
| 16:26.33 | Kirkburn | Perhaps I shouldn't have said 'tribes' :P |
| 16:26.39 | Codayus | That's more like...hmm. |
| 16:26.55 | Codayus | Human kingdoms? |
| 16:27.12 | Kirkburn | Yeah, a suppose a bit like that |
| 16:27.12 | Kirochi | hum |
| 16:27.13 | zenzelezz | nations would probably be a better word |
| 16:27.14 | Codayus | Hm. |
| 16:27.14 | Kirochi | es |
| 16:27.26 | Kirochi | Nation of Arathor |
| 16:27.32 | Codayus | Or a little bit like the Thrall's Horde vs Blackhands...whatever its called. |
| 16:27.32 | TS|Skrom | when you say supported by an orc do you mean like...s econd in command? |
| 16:27.32 | Kirochi | Leader ... |
| 16:27.43 | Kirochi | skrom ==> yep |
| 16:27.57 | TS|Skrom | because the forsaken is led by a night elf (an undead one, but still) and supported by an orc (thrall) lol |
| 16:28.03 | Kirochi | no |
| 16:28.07 | Kirochi | she's a high elf |
| 16:28.11 | TS|Skrom | oh that's right |
| 16:28.13 | Kirkburn | Yup, high elf |
| 16:28.13 | Kirochi | I mean an hostile faction |
| 16:28.16 | Codayus | I'm not sure it counts if your dead... |
| 16:28.22 | Kirkburn | I thought she was a NE until recently :/ |
| 16:28.44 | Kirochi | actually, the model used for sylvanas is a night elf one |
| 16:28.44 | Codayus | Speaking of which, how come you never seem to run into undead orcs? |
| 16:28.45 | TS|Skrom | and I just finished playing the attack on silvermoon level of WC3 too >< |
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| 16:28.45 | Kirochi | but blizz is lazy -_~ |
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| 16:29.03 | zenzelezz | undead tauren would be funky |
| 16:29.06 | Kirkburn | Codayus, they weren't in the right places |
| 16:29.13 | Kirkburn | (same goes for tauren) |
| 16:29.21 | Kirochi | There were skeletal orcs in the maelstrom isles |
| 16:29.36 | Codayus | Hmm, there are undead trolls... |
| 16:29.44 | Kirochi | yes, but not due to the scourge |
| 16:29.56 | Kirochi | aw |
| 16:30.00 | Kirochi | actually yes |
| 16:30.06 | Kirkburn | Tauren are form one area of Kalimdor, vrtually untouched by the Scourge |
| 16:30.17 | TS|Skrom | the plague is pretty much contained to the plaguelands for the moment, an area populated almost wholey by elf and human |
| 16:30.24 | Kirochi | but only ice trolls were turned to undea dby the plague |
| 16:30.35 | Kirkburn | Orcs were in a similar sort of position, whereas trolls would have encountered the scourge |
| 16:30.58 | TS|Skrom | Thrall got the majority of the orcs out before the plague started |
| 16:31.02 | zenzelezz | short way from Hinterlands to WPL at least |
| 16:31.03 | Kirkburn | Zul'aman is troll and in Quel'thalas :P |
| 16:31.18 | Kirochi | there's a tauren faction who seems very friendly towards the forsaken |
| 16:31.25 | Kirkburn | Grimtotem? |
| 16:31.39 | Kirochi | yup |
| 16:32.16 | Kirochi | what does "grim" mean in english ? |
| 16:32.37 | zenzelezz | it was a grim fate |
| 16:32.59 | Kirkburn | Grim means 'bad', generally |
| 16:33.07 | malreth | forbidding or uninviting |
| 16:33.13 | Kirochi | kewl |
| 16:33.16 | malreth | depressing |
| 16:33.20 | Kirochi | so there are evil tauren |
| 16:33.23 | malreth | relentless |
| 16:33.23 | Kirkburn | forboding, perhaps? :) |
| 16:33.34 | Kirochi | (yes, I remember smite) |
| 16:33.46 | Kirochi | Mr. Smite rofl |
| 16:33.48 | Kirkburn | He with the giant hammer |
| 16:33.56 | BonesawKevorkian | all tauren are evil. that whole "living in harmony with nature" is just a front. They're after revenge for all those steak dinners |
| 16:34.00 | Kirochi | what an ironical name for such a lame boss |
| 16:34.21 | Kirochi | ^^ |
| 16:34.35 | Kirochi | and the scourge's creating a new plague |
| 16:34.42 | zenzelezz | I think my favorite boss name has to be Ragnaros |
| 16:34.45 | Kirochi | similar to the kreutzfeld jacob |
| 16:34.59 | Kirochi | to kill all the tauren |
| 16:35.16 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 16:35.53 | Kirochi | Pandaren+Dwarves+Trolls FTW ! |
| 16:36.02 | BonesawKevorkian | kinky |
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| 16:36.26 | tyroney|work | Gee, why ever would the froums be busy? |
| 16:36.43 | cogwheel | Tuesday, tuesday.... Can't trust that day |
| 16:36.50 | malreth | ok... my web traffic is now all tunneled through an encrypted SOCKS proxy, IRC is tunneled over SSH, and WoW has been socksified and encrypted and tunneled |
| 16:37.12 | malreth | now all my network traffic makes me look super suspicious |
| 16:37.20 | Kirochi | awwww |
| 16:37.36 | malreth | but at least i'm secured |
| 16:37.42 | malreth | ARRRG! |
| 16:38.03 | malreth | aye, ye are |
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| 16:38.52 | malreth | i'm determined to make it to Rank 11 before the expansion |
| 16:40.14 | Kirkburn | malreth, what are you now? |
| 16:40.29 | malreth | after today's maintainance, i should be rank 6 finally |
| 16:40.56 | malreth | if not, i'll be something like 99% through rank 5... that'd piss me off, though |
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| 16:41.27 | Kirochi | i'm determined to make it to level 11 before the expansion |
| 16:42.17 | Kirochi | seriously |
| 16:43.02 | malreth | That way when I class-lead in a raid, everyone can call me Commander |
| 16:43.25 | CrazierMYKL | 11? |
| 16:43.49 | CrazierMYKL | 11 is like 2-3 days, if you're goofing off |
| 16:44.12 | malreth | hey, leveling can be hard |
| 16:44.21 | malreth | malreth has been 46 for 4 years now |
| 16:44.29 | Kirochi | no, it's not that hard, but I just got to buy another prepaid card oO |
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| 16:45.18 | Kirochi | and my level 25 dwarf priest has maybe eaten his own pants, seeing how I let him without any stuff nor items |
| 16:46.33 | Kirochi | <BonesawKevorkian> kinky |
| 16:46.38 | Kirochi | what does "kinky mean ? |
| 16:46.48 | Kevorkian | sexually twisted |
| 16:47.28 | Kevorkian | you were talking about pandarens + dwarves + trolls |
| 16:48.02 | Kirochi | oO |
| 16:48.03 | Kevorkian | my natural inclination was to assume you meant that as a interracial menage a trois |
| 16:48.13 | Kirochi | ... |
| 16:48.16 | Kirochi | ok g2g now |
| 16:48.17 | Kirochi | bye |
| 16:48.29 | Xuerian | Have fun Kirochi :p |
| 16:48.32 | malreth | purl, kinky |
| 16:48.34 | purl | from memory, kinky is something that would typically include a cat-o-nine tails and maybe a llama, whip cream, and a picture of David Hasslehoff |
| 16:48.38 | Kevorkian | watch out for the trolls, they bite |
| 16:48.41 | Xuerian | XD |
| 16:48.50 | malreth | yeah, that's kinky |
| 16:49.21 | Kevorkian | purl, antidisestablishmentarianism |
| 16:49.23 | purl | i guess antidisestablishmentarianism is a very long word. |
| 16:49.52 | kopple | it's Hasselhoff, heathens |
| 16:50.08 | Kevorkian | don't hassle the hoff! |
| 16:52.10 | Kevorkian | there is a pig-latin like variant called ofenglofish, where you insert "of" before every vowel sound. In ofenglofish, david hasselhoff becomes dofavofid hofassofelhofoff |
| 16:53.56 | Kevorkian | try fiery bananas foster in ofenglofish |
| 16:54.19 | Kevorkian | fofierofy bofanofanofas fofostofer |
| 16:54.30 | Industrial | lol |
| 16:54.48 | Xuerian | Has to be something to hear spoken properly :P |
| 16:55.07 | Xuerian | Or well, watch... just watch that spit fly |
| 16:55.11 | Kevorkian | my wife can do it, or at least she claims she can, all I hear is a bunch of weird noises |
| 16:56.08 | Industrial | folol |
| 16:56.14 | Industrial | oflol* |
| 16:56.24 | Kevorkian | actually, just lofol |
| 16:56.35 | Industrial | o_< |
| 16:57.24 | Kevorkian | works best with words with lots of vowel sounds, like syzygy or abracadabra |
| 16:57.43 | tyroney|work | someone should add that to |
| 16:57.45 | tyroney|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_game_%28linguistics%29 |
| 17:00.33 | Kirkburn | Christ, there's a coup going on in Thailand :/ |
| 17:00.57 | Kevorkian | who's couping who? |
| 17:01.01 | Kirkburn | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5361008.stm |
| 17:01.10 | Kirkburn | The military, it seems |
| 17:01.33 | Kirkburn | I could have just linked http://news.bbc.co.uk/, the news story is big enough :P |
| 17:02.06 | cogwheel | Yeah well... I live in the county where John Mark Karr is being tried for child porn... :P |
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| 17:02.50 | Cairenn | so the world is trying to blow up today? riots in Hungary, coup attempt in Thailand? |
| 17:03.41 | tyroney|work | Don't forget server maintenance. |
| 17:03.52 | Kirkburn | ... aaand we're back |
| 17:03.53 | Cairenn | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5359250.stm |
| 17:05.01 | Kevorkian | the john karr stuff was such a hoax. and the thing that amazed me is that they actually had to get him here before they figured out it was a hoax |
| 17:05.02 | Kevorkian | duh |
| 17:05.40 | Kevorkian | it was a relative that did it, otherwise the parents wouldn't have blocked all attempts at a meaningful investigation |
| 17:06.35 | Kirkburn | oh, the Jon Benet guy? |
| 17:06.49 | Kevorkian | ya |
| 17:07.24 | cogwheel | Yep... he was a substitute teacher in the town where my last job was |
| 17:07.24 | |FF|Im2good4u | is there a good way to chance the bottunos of a dropdown menu depending on the selection of an other dropdown menu :p |
| 17:07.36 | Kevorkian | there ain't never been a good way to do that |
| 17:07.44 | Kevorkian | in any GUI environment |
| 17:08.19 | tyroney|work | if you squish the size of the ones you don't need, and have them all anchored in a chain, does that do the trick? |
| 17:09.36 | |FF|Im2good4u | well not realy becase i got to many buttons lol so i need to create a sub menu of the main drop down menu :p |
| 17:10.02 | tyroney|work | In one dropdown? Maybe you want a scrolling list box instead. |
| 17:10.38 | |FF|Im2good4u | hmm not a bad idea lol :p |
| 17:10.39 | Kevorkian | the only way I ever managed to do that was if you had a fairly limited set of options on the first dropdown, I'd hide and show various other dropdowns based on the first selection. I don't know how easy that is to do in wow/lua |
| 17:11.28 | Kevorkian | aye, I'd say go with another UI design, the mutating dropdowns are usually messy code |
| 17:11.33 | Kirkburn | So, anyone around now own a G15? |
| 17:13.16 | cogwheel | You know... i've never dealt with blizzard support before and i really thought all the bitchy people on the forums were just that... Now i know better :( |
| 17:13.35 | Xuerian | What'd you try to do? |
| 17:13.45 | Gryphen | i have a g15 but havent really used the lcd in a while |
| 17:13.48 | |FF|Im2good4u | whee i was baslicly aiming at was.. cant i just change the bottun in the init function of the 2nd dropdown whit some if's checknig the selection of the first ? |
| 17:14.16 | cogwheel | I used my beta access code after blizzcon last year but changed e-mail addresses since then... i was just letting them know so they don't send my ZOMG you can play BC now notice to the wrong address... Here was their reply: |
| 17:14.23 | cogwheel | Unfortunately, I don't have any information I can discuss with you regarding alpha or beta testing for any Blizzard products. |
| 17:14.40 | Kirkburn | Gryphen, do you think it's worth buying? |
| 17:14.46 | cogwheel | didn't give me another department to contact or anything... |
| 17:14.48 | Xuerian | Damn o_0 |
| 17:16.04 | Gryphen | not really for me |
| 17:16.30 | Gryphen | it is nifty, but i havent really dug into it a whole lot |
| 17:16.33 | Kevorkian | cogwheel: man, they just Pwned you. that's a "L0lz w3 |)0nT c4r3 L0Z3r" |
| 17:16.47 | cogwheel | Yeah no kidding... |
| 17:16.55 | tyroney|work | Sounds like a canned response to me. I'd keep trying. |
| 17:17.06 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 17:17.09 | purl | ACTION shakes 42 sperm whales at the forums. >:( |
| 17:17.24 | Xuerian | cogwheel: Try something like "I don't want YOU to tell ME anything, I want YOU to know MY address changed. KTHANKX". >_> |
| 17:17.41 | cogwheel | Xuerian: i did... in so many words... |
| 17:17.48 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 17:17.54 | Xuerian | Well, good luck on the CS forum =\ |
| 17:20.06 | cogwheel | I think the luck i need is getting to the CS forum in the first place... |
| 17:20.30 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:20.58 | Kevorkian | patch day |
| 17:21.21 | Kevorkian | not the best time to access the forums, unlike... well actually very similar to any other day |
| 17:22.21 | cogwheel | hmph.... even guildportal's down |
| 17:22.39 | cogwheel | i feel sorry for guilds from other mmos... |
| 17:22.59 | Kevorkian | why? |
| 17:23.44 | cogwheel | 'cause they can't log into guildportal on tuesday thanks to the World of Warcraft DOS attacks... i mean maintenance day woes... |
| 17:24.20 | zenzelezz | why would they want to anyway if they're from other MMOs? |
| 17:24.43 | cogwheel | talking about guildportal.com here... |
| 17:24.51 | Gryphen | ugh guildportal |
| 17:24.57 | zenzelezz | no clue what that is |
| 17:25.06 | cogwheel | it's a guild website hosting site |
| 17:25.20 | Kevorkian | for any MMO |
| 17:25.24 | Kevorkian | not just for WoW |
| 17:25.31 | Kevorkian | been around for ages |
| 17:25.57 | Gryphen | generally your ugly myspace like guilds |
| 17:25.58 | zenzelezz | I don't see how that relates to WoW's downtime... are they sharing the pipe or something? |
| 17:26.20 | cogwheel | no... everyone from wow who can't get onto wow forums swarms their guildportal pages instead... |
| 17:26.35 | cogwheel | so guildportal dies for everyone, including those who don't play wow |
| 17:26.45 | Kevorkian | the wow players form an even more effective DOS attack system than slashdot |
| 17:27.22 | zenzelezz | might just be me being ignorant, but I can't remember seeing any guild on my server advertise guildportal(.com) stuff |
| 17:27.59 | cogwheel | a lot of the time they might have their own domain name that redirects to GP |
| 17:28.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | ContainerFrameItemButton_OnClick <- i tryed hooknig thatbut it doesnt work :( http://wowi.pastey.net/939 |
| 17:33.40 | |FF|Im2good4u | ah fixed it :p |
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| 17:35.32 | cogwheel | Yaarrr!!! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html |
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| 17:45.07 | |FF|Im2good4u | can some1 help me find out why my dropdown menu doesnt show at all :P http://wowi.pastey.net/940 |
| 17:45.43 | JoshBorke | you're too good for it |
| 17:48.32 | cogwheel | Now, i don't have any experience with dropdowns, so i'm kinda pulling this out of thin air... but Line 32 makes me curious... why would all the UIDropDownMenu functions have the dropdown as the first argument except SetWidth()? |
| 17:49.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | yeh surprises me 2 how wow can ever know witch drown down mwnu im trying to edit lol |
| 17:50.07 | |FF|Im2good4u | but it realy doesnt take he frame as parameter |
| 17:50.26 | cogwheel | well, you are passing it as the second argument... |
| 17:50.51 | JoshBorke | do you ever show the UIDropDownMenu? |
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| 17:51.05 | cogwheel | he never hides it... |
| 17:51.09 | cogwheel | it should be shown by default |
| 17:52.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | i laso calll the show |
| 17:52.26 | |FF|Im2good4u | maybe i scewed up the anch0rs ? |
| 17:52.40 | cogwheel | nah... looks fine to me |
| 17:52.44 | JoshBorke | what line do you call the show? |
| 17:52.54 | cmunn | How often does Vael use his AoE Fire attack? |
| 17:52.54 | TS|Skrom | ~emulate ts|skrom |
| 17:52.57 | purl | can someone tell me how I can... |
| 17:52.57 | JoshBorke | not that i know ANYTHING about dropdown menus :-D |
| 17:53.04 | cogwheel | though you can shorten it to SetPoint("TOPLEFT", -100, -20) iirc |
| 17:53.08 | TS|Skrom | Who's ready for today's question! |
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| 17:53.19 | JoshBorke | i am |
| 17:53.30 | TS|Skrom | I want to make a minimap button (just because!) |
| 17:53.46 | JoshBorke | look at another mod that does it :-P |
| 17:53.50 | TS|Skrom | I assume you create the frame.. give it an uptexture, a down texture and an onclick with whatever you want it to do |
| 17:53.54 | TS|Skrom | and anchor it to the minimap? |
| 17:53.57 | TS|Skrom | is it that easy? |
| 17:54.02 | JoshBorke | sounds about right |
| 17:54.14 | AnduinLothar | don't cody ctmod or i kill ju. worse minimap button construction evar! |
| 17:54.18 | AnduinLothar | copy* |
| 17:54.23 | Cide | yep |
| 17:54.29 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 17:54.32 | Cide | just to annoy you Andalia |
| 17:54.34 | Cide | AnduinLothar |
| 17:54.35 | TS|Skrom | what's a good one I could look like? |
| 17:54.41 | AnduinLothar | i see people copy that code all over and it makes me weap |
| 17:54.42 | JoshBorke | CT_Raid |
| 17:54.45 | JoshBorke | ;-) |
| 17:54.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | BagSlotTypeInterface:Show() |
| 17:54.58 | |FF|Im2good4u | BagSlotTypeItemType:Show() |
| 17:55.04 | |FF|Im2good4u | those i use ot show() it |
| 17:55.07 | AnduinLothar | i have to keep addign exceptions to MobileMinimapButtons for badly authored xml |
| 17:55.15 | |FF|Im2good4u | the interfce should be its parent |
| 17:55.19 | Kirov | CT_Raidassist's minimap button has a hidden frame with enablemouse="true" on it that blocks any buttons on the right side of the minimap. |
| 17:55.42 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: you could use http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4686 |
| 17:55.50 | AnduinLothar | if you want good buttons go check out IEF. that's some haxored uber button there |
| 17:56.05 | Cide | Kirov: heh, I didn't know that |
| 17:56.13 | JoshBorke | |FF|Im2good4u: and that opens the UIDropDownMenu? (btw, not on the pastey) |
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| 17:56.21 | Kirochi | back |
| 17:56.23 | AnduinLothar | even has alpha flahing overlay AND alpha mouseover AND text overlay |
| 17:56.34 | |FF|Im2good4u | JoshBroke i hope so :p |
| 17:56.35 | cogwheel | cide: yep... i had to resort to moveanything to move it out of the way |
| 17:56.44 | Cide | mohahaha |
| 17:56.46 | AnduinLothar | AND has rotating code by dragging, built in! |
| 17:56.48 | TS|Skrom | thanks cog, but I'd like to learn it first before using a library :D |
| 17:57.08 | |FF|Im2good4u | http://wowi.pastey.net/941 <-full code |
| 17:57.16 | Kirochi | Now I know why "Kinky-Winky" was just more than an one-letter deformation |
| 17:58.21 | cogwheel | |FF|Im2good4u: you might want to throw in a |r at the end of your version string... |
| 17:58.41 | |FF|Im2good4u | yerh but i might aswel remove it lso :p |
| 17:58.46 | |FF|Im2good4u | its useless |
| 17:59.11 | cogwheel | heh... that works ;) |
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| 18:04.20 | cogwheel | Now why couldn't he have just said that from the beginning: "Until any Betas for any of the titles are announced, there will be no way to assist you in this matter. Once such an announcement is made, the Billing Department may be able to assist you in this matter." |
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| 18:05.19 | cogwheel | still seems kinda silly though... |
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| 18:22.21 | malreth | Cairenn! YAR! |
| 18:23.47 | Cairenn | ahoy matey! |
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| 18:27.09 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 18:27.10 | purl | ACTION keel-hauls the forums. Yarrrrr! |
| 18:29.57 | CrazierMYKL | is it possible to give a macro a cooldown? |
| 18:30.36 | cogwheel | CrazierMYKL: put /cast --Spell Name at the beginning |
| 18:31.01 | cogwheel | or /script --CastSpellByName("Spell Name") |
| 18:31.10 | CrazierMYKL | it's an item cooldown |
| 18:31.51 | Kevorkian | if wowwiki was responding, I'd paste you an answer crazi |
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| 18:32.25 | CrazierMYKL | the AddOn is for using the right Mana Gem, so i need to hook that cooldown on those |
| 18:34.08 | Kevorkian | crazi: I'm somewhat new at this so take with a grain of salt |
| 18:34.13 | Kevorkian | the short answer is no |
| 18:34.19 | Kevorkian | you can't with a macro |
| 18:35.00 | Kevorkian | if you have a script and the script knows when you used the mana gem, then you can schedule a function to run after a given timeout |
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| 18:35.13 | CrazierMYKL | what about in the AddOn itself, then? |
| 18:35.42 | Kevorkian | look at the Chronos library, it has many scheduling abilities |
| 18:35.45 | CrazierMYKL | i want the cooldown timer on the icon on the actionbar |
| 18:35.52 | CrazierMYKL | so CT can hook it, and all that |
| 18:36.04 | CrazierMYKL | and i want to avoid heavy dependancies |
| 18:36.19 | Kevorkian | chronos isn't that heavy |
| 18:36.46 | cogwheel | you can get the cooldown left on an item in your addon's OnUpdate handler |
| 18:37.34 | cogwheel | and then do whatever you want with that number |
| 18:38.36 | Kirkburn | Wow, now *this* is a sandstorm, none of the WoW rubbish :) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1120793438507203379 |
| 18:39.13 | CrazierMYKL | i want the cooldown display on the actionbar button, like with most things |
| 18:39.21 | cogwheel | see? that's the kind of thing i was expecting in tanaris... |
| 18:39.28 | CrazierMYKL | there's no way to hook into that? |
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| 18:40.55 | cogwheel | I imagine it's possible but it would be a *lot* of work... your addon would have to go through all the macros finding calls to its function, then go through all the action buttons to find what buttons it's on... then you'd have to actually do the cooldown display manually afaik |
| 18:40.59 | tyroney|work | A guy I used to work with emailed back some pictures of one of those. Man. |
| 18:41.31 | TS|Skrom | I'm missing something here... |
| 18:41.45 | TS|Skrom | minimap buttons are only round because their texture is? |
| 18:41.51 | cogwheel | yep |
| 18:41.59 | TS|Skrom | O.o |
| 18:42.00 | cogwheel | all frames are rectangular |
| 18:42.26 | CrazierMYKL | cog, that's a bitch |
| 18:42.45 | Kirov | example cast of this ... mouse over the bottom left corner of the minimap and try to click. |
| 18:42.53 | Kirov | s\cast\case\ |
| 18:43.33 | cogwheel | wrong slashes ;) |
| 18:43.45 | Kevorkian | thus answering the question, when is a square not a square :) |
| 18:44.15 | Kevorkian | in case anybody actually was thinking of a question that even remotely resembled that one |
| 18:44.25 | Kevorkian | which is doubtful, but heck, who knows |
| 18:44.32 | cogwheel | Yarrr! |
| 18:44.48 | Kevorkian | hoist the mizzenmast ye mangy dogs! |
| 18:44.55 | Kirkburn | An interesting point on BBC news today - if the Pope is infallible, how come he's apologised about his comments? |
| 18:45.14 | Kevorkian | papal infallibility was abandoned |
| 18:45.18 | Xuerian | Because of the catch, he's not ALWAYS invalliability... |
| 18:45.22 | Xuerian | er |
| 18:45.26 | Xuerian | infalliable. |
| 18:45.29 | Xuerian | er. |
| 18:45.33 | Xuerian | INFALLIBLE |
| 18:45.33 | cogwheel | he did end up apologizing? |
| 18:45.44 | Kirkburn | Pretty much |
| 18:45.46 | Kevorkian | yep |
| 18:45.50 | Kevorkian | him and mel gibson |
| 18:45.56 | Kevorkian | and about as believable |
| 18:46.01 | cogwheel | I remember he said he was "sorry for the violent reaction".... |
| 18:46.15 | tyroney|work | What cog said |
| 18:46.17 | cogwheel | i guess it must've happened since i listened to the news this morning... |
| 18:46.20 | Kirkburn | This is the article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/5355758.stm |
| 18:48.19 | cogwheel | Only skimmed, but the article doesn't even seem to say what he said ... ;) |
| 18:49.03 | Kirkburn | Nah, it's a just 'magazine' article |
| 18:49.37 | Kirkburn | Off to Sainsbury's |
| 18:49.40 | Kirkburn | Bbl |
| 18:49.43 | cogwheel | But still, regretting the reaction to what he said and apologizing for what he said are very different, and that's why people are still so mad at him |
| 18:49.51 | Kirkburn|afk | True |
| 18:52.24 | TS|Skrom | can you do relative paths on textures? as in ./Images/myimage.tga |
| 18:52.43 | TS|Skrom | or do you ahve to do interface\addons\myaddon\images |
| 19:02.08 | Kevorkian | do they even let you go under the addons folder? |
| 19:02.32 | TS|Skrom | you HAVE to have your images in the addon folder I thought... |
| 19:02.52 | TS|Skrom | but anyway I answered my own question hehe yes you do have to give the whole path... or at least use a relative marker I don't know. |
| 19:06.35 | tyroney|work | no relative. |
| 19:06.58 | tyroney|work | I assume the graphics-majig that does loading doesn't know or care if it's loading a tex for a speicfic addon. |
| 19:07.08 | Kaso | ok, this is an odd question but hey, i remeber a while ago someone said that it would be possible too hook a function on *every* frame using metatables, for example, hooking all Frame's :Show() , or am i dreaming? |
| 19:07.40 | tyroney|work | Yup. |
| 19:07.47 | tyroney|work | I do it for my fading healthbar chunks. |
| 19:08.16 | tyroney|work | Basically you get a meta-table for something, and I believe since the UI uses one meta-table, you can then change it and effect the whole world. |
| 19:08.41 | Kaso | is there somewhere i can look at your code? |
| 19:09.30 | tyroney|work | My regular download, http://www.tyroney.com/wow.html or I can go pastebin it if you just want the relevant stuff. |
| 19:09.57 | Kaso | I'll have a mooch around, anywhere specific to look for metatables stuff? |
| 19:11.04 | tyroney|work | cutsom_fadingHits.lua , line 61 to the end. |
| 19:11.34 | Kaso | thank you |
| 19:12.02 | tyroney|work | Be careful, there's magic in that code. I try not to think too hard about it. |
| 19:17.31 | Kaso | wow that is pretty scary |
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| 19:24.28 | JoshBorke | tyroney|work: how do you get to the waterfall by SW? |
| 19:26.44 | cogwheel | i don't think you can since 1.10 |
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| 19:27.02 | cogwheel | luckily the airport is still accessible though :D |
| 19:28.45 | Kaso | i've never been to the airport, all those alliance scare me away |
| 19:28.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | man i always used the waterfall by SW as a shortcut into Westfall :[ |
| 19:29.14 | Xuerian | I think they're talking about the one north of northshire 0_o |
| 19:29.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | ohh |
| 19:29.38 | cogwheel | yeah... the one on the flight to IF |
| 19:29.47 | tyroney|work | You don't any more. |
| 19:29.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | not the one with attackable defias |
| 19:30.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | everything they've closed off i've seen before, so no big deal |
| 19:30.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | even some stuff that's not reachable ingame like old hillsbrad |
| 19:32.10 | Mr_Rabies2 | huhwha |
| 19:32.27 | cogwheel | it's international talk like a pirate day! YARRR!!! |
| 19:32.39 | ckknight | it is? |
| 19:32.57 | cogwheel | http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ |
| 19:33.09 | Mr_Rabies2 | druid talents need to come out :[[ |
| 19:33.27 | Mr_Rabies2 | so i know whether or not to stop playing when bc comes out |
| 19:34.19 | ckknight | lol |
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| 19:37.32 | cogwheel | I could give you some of my alt-itis then it wouldn't matter ;) |
| 19:38.34 | cogwheel | come to my house and you'll be double infected... my wife has an even worse case than i do... |
| 19:40.37 | TS|Skrom | oh man I've got that bad too |
| 19:40.54 | TS|Skrom | I've never had a 60.. I've got a hunter at 53 and I just can't seem to play him... |
| 19:41.06 | cogwheel | my wife got her first 60 about a month ago.... we've been playing virtually every day since jan 05 |
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| 19:42.42 | Shadowed | We don't have any method of rounding to a decimal place if we want to display something like 31.3 do we? |
| 19:42.56 | malreth | string.format |
| 19:43.01 | cogwheel | for display purposes, use string.format |
| 19:43.16 | Shadowed | kk |
| 19:43.22 | cogwheel | just add 0.05 to the number so that it will round properly... |
| 19:43.54 | Shadowed | yeah, just wasn't sure how we do the decimal place for showing |
| 19:43.58 | Shadowed | which makes no sense, but whatever! |
| 19:44.12 | cogwheel | otherwise, 3.19 will show as 3.1 |
| 19:44.14 | Kirochi | ARRRR ! |
| 19:44.23 | cogwheel | Ahoy! |
| 19:44.29 | Kevorkian | Avast! |
| 19:45.00 | Kirkburn | tyroney|work, just noticing you mention Newman's Landing on your site - I think it is a reference to 'No man's land' |
| 19:45.16 | tyroney|work | Kirkburn: That makes sense. |
| 19:45.18 | Kevorkian | makes perfect sense, string.format truncates, so to compensate for it's obvious inadequacies we add half of whatever the last decimal place is |
| 19:45.30 | malreth | hmm... adding 0.05 won't work for negative numbers... |
| 19:45.41 | Kirkburn | Totally random though - I'd love if they added somethig to do there :) |
| 19:45.47 | cogwheel | won't it? |
| 19:45.56 | cogwheel | doesn't -3.5 round to -3? |
| 19:46.08 | Kevorkian | try it with -3.6 |
| 19:46.12 | malreth | -1.0+0.5=0.5 truncates to 0 |
| 19:47.22 | cogwheel | ah... |
| 19:47.26 | tyroney|work | is there a math.sgn or something you could multiply the .5 by to make it handy? |
| 19:47.57 | cogwheel | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#5.5 |
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| 19:49.01 | Kevorkian | what's the command to turn a string into a number again? |
| 19:49.06 | cogwheel | you could use abs.... function math.sign(num) return num == 0 and 0 or num/abs(num) end |
| 19:49.12 | cogwheel | tonumber(string) |
| 19:49.16 | cogwheel | i think... |
| 19:49.30 | malreth | correct |
| 19:49.50 | malreth | or, if you know that the string is a number, just use it as such |
| 19:49.59 | malreth | "4"+"2" == 6 |
| 19:50.03 | Kevorkian | and what's the string.format form to print x number of decimal places |
| 19:50.10 | cogwheel | but you can't do comparisons between strings and numbers |
| 19:50.32 | cogwheel | "4" ~= 4 |
| 19:50.44 | Kirochi | Wow, great deduction brother obvious |
| 19:52.02 | cogwheel | what i mean is that you have to be careful in conditional statements... if numVar == stringVar then dostuff() end will never call dostuff() |
| 19:52.28 | cogwheel | even though "4" + 4 == 8 |
| 19:53.09 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: kind of referency, but: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Bowden/C/printf.html |
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| 19:53.56 | Kirkburn | Y'know I've just read a veyr interesting point |
| 19:54.14 | Kirkburn | The locations of the Old Gods make a star shape |
| 19:54.33 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: actually, this one has better examples: http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~ajr/209/notes/printf.html |
| 19:54.50 | Kevorkian | does lua allow you to build a format string and then use that format string as the format mask? Like make a string "%%0."..num_decimals.."f" and then use that as the mask for a string.format? |
| 19:54.55 | tyroney|work | Kirkburn: pics? |
| 19:55.04 | cogwheel | a string's a string |
| 19:55.18 | cogwheel | however the string comes into being is irrelevant |
| 19:55.20 | malreth | Kevorkian: sure |
| 19:55.21 | Kirkburn | One is dead and in the NW Kalimdor, one is C'thun and SW Kalimdor, one is around the central Maelstrom (Naga), one may be under Tirisfal Glades (NE) .... which leaves the 5th in the South East |
| 19:56.07 | Kirochi | yup |
| 19:56.10 | tyroney|work | Hmm |
| 19:56.11 | Kirochi | under the dark portal |
| 19:56.12 | cogwheel | Kirkburn: isn't that a square with a dot in the middle? |
| 19:56.23 | Kirkburn | I can be a star if I want :( |
| 19:56.27 | Kirkburn | *it! |
| 19:56.32 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 19:56.37 | malreth | Kevorkian: local width = 2; text = string.format("%."..width.."f", 12.3456) |
| 19:56.56 | Kirkburn | Kirochi, yeah, or around Karazhan? |
| 19:57.01 | Kirochi | hmm |
| 19:57.03 | Kirochi | point |
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| 19:57.32 | Kirochi | both are related to medivh |
| 19:57.37 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: though, it's better not to think of it as some specific feature of Lua or the format function... it's just a side effect of the concatenation operator... |
| 19:57.52 | Kirkburn | Indeed ... interesting thoughts, eh :) |
| 19:57.55 | Kirochi | surprisingly this is the earliest Azeroth zone known |
| 19:58.04 | Kirochi | and still it has secrets to uncover |
| 19:58.12 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 19:58.47 | Dhraga | Question, a friend of mine is having some trouble with the outdoot pvp frames AlwaysUp1 and AlwaysUp2.... he isnt in any pvp but the frames always shoes in plaugelands and sillithus... anyone got any ideas ? |
| 19:59.11 | cogwheel | That's by design |
| 19:59.18 | cogwheel | It's to let everyone know the current situation |
| 19:59.51 | Kevorkian | are exponents in Lua just the standard ^ symbol? |
| 19:59.54 | Dhraga | Oh, so it's supposed to be that way ? Cause he dont have it on his other lvl 60 toon... is it hooked to rank ? |
| 19:59.59 | cogwheel | yep, Kevorkian |
| 20:00.15 | cogwheel | it shouldn't be... he probably has some addon hiding it on his other toon |
| 20:00.31 | Dhraga | ok, thanks for the info |
| 20:00.44 | cogwheel | unless he has no rank at all in which case i have no idea 'cause all my toons that go to those zones are privates... |
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| 20:01.30 | Dhraga | ok thanks again |
| 20:01.59 | cogwheel | yw :) |
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| 20:03.22 | Dhraga | cogwheel : yepp the toon that doesnt see it isnt ranked at all.... thanks again |
| 20:03.45 | Kevorkian | I believe this http://wowi.pastey.net/945 function should round consistently |
| 20:04.41 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: a few errors... i'll repost |
| 20:04.47 | Kevorkian | ty kindly |
| 20:04.54 | Kevorkian | my lua is still infantile |
| 20:05.17 | cogwheel | actually the logic itself is a bit off... |
| 20:05.48 | cogwheel | i'll comment my changes to explain :) |
| 20:05.55 | Kevorkian | well my logic is rusty, I haven't programmed professionally in about 6 years. trying to revive dormant neural pathways |
| 20:06.07 | Kevorkian | s'no worries |
| 20:06.32 | cogwheel | i know the feeling... i went to C++ after programming in VBA for a year and felt like a complete moron... |
| 20:06.49 | cogwheel | s/t t/t back t/ |
| 20:06.53 | tyroney|work | I thought the world pvp objectives were tied to one of the defense channels. |
| 20:09.24 | tyroney|work | ~emulate tyroney |
| 20:09.26 | purl | ACTION mourns the forums. |
| 20:09.55 | Kevorkian | purl,syzygy |
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| 20:11.46 | malreth | Kevorkian: http://lua-users.org/wiki/SimpleRound |
| 20:11.55 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: just noticed something... you're returning the number as a number... if you want it for display purposes you should leave it as a string... for rounding numbers to be used in further calculation, there's a much better way... |
| 20:12.08 | malreth | apparently, string.format doesn't just truncate... it actually rounds to +/-inf |
| 20:12.23 | malreth | wait... lemme check thaht in 5.0 |
| 20:13.20 | malreth | ack! i somehow overwrote my lua 5.0 interpreter binaries with the 5.1 ones |
| 20:13.22 | cogwheel | the first one on the page malreth links is what i was going for... |
| 20:13.27 | malreth | when did I do that? |
| 20:14.23 | malreth | well, the first one is probably slightly faster than the string.format version |
| 20:16.37 | cogwheel | s/lightly/ignificantly/ |
| 20:16.56 | cogwheel | string formatting is quite expensive compared to math functions |
| 20:18.22 | malreth | function calls in general are expensive in lua |
| 20:18.36 | malreth | much more so than operator functions |
| 20:18.52 | malreth | brb |
| 20:19.07 | Kevorkian | malreth: the 2 line example at the top would be better served with a 4 line one, he doesn't check for negative numbers |
| 20:20.11 | Kevorkian | otherwise the 2 liner one is spiffy |
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| 20:20.44 | cogwheel | Kevorkian: mal left ;) but still, that's the method i was going to tell you |
| 20:20.48 | cogwheel | oh he's back now |
| 20:20.51 | malreth | no he didn't |
| 20:21.04 | malreth | one thing i have to hand to apple |
| 20:21.22 | cogwheel | a core? |
| 20:21.24 | malreth | they have some magical method of suspending network connections even when the laptop goes to sleep |
| 20:21.34 | Kevorkian | heh, was just saying that the page you posted the top example is spiffy but he needs to check if it's a negative number (and do -.5 instead if it is) |
| 20:21.36 | malreth | ssh connections just pop right back to life instantly |
| 20:21.55 | malreth | Kevorkian: it works properly for negative numbers |
| 20:21.58 | malreth | i just tested |
| 20:22.05 | malreth | it rounds to +/-inf |
| 20:22.21 | malreth | so -1.235 rounds to -1.24 |
| 20:22.24 | Kirov | +/- infinity? |
| 20:22.42 | malreth | correct |
| 20:22.51 | malreth | it's an important distiction |
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| 20:23.14 | malreth | since you have to define exactly how you are rounding when you're taking into account positive and negative numbers |
| 20:23.56 | Kevorkian | it doesn't work, try rounding -0.56 to 1 decimal place |
| 20:24.14 | Kirochi | kirkburn |
| 20:24.19 | Kirochi | are you there ? |
| 20:24.29 | Kirkburn | No, I'm here |
| 20:24.29 | malreth | i get -0.6 |
| 20:24.38 | Kirochi | all right |
| 20:24.45 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 20:24.50 | Kirochi | did you see the last post on the cockatrice talk page ? |
| 20:24.57 | malreth | > =math.round(-0.56, 1) |
| 20:24.57 | malreth | -0.6 |
| 20:25.35 | TS|Skrom | this is why I don't do graphics for a living... I can't even make a tga file with correct transparency >< |
| 20:25.46 | Kirkburn | I don't mind a couple of links on talk pages, just as long as the picture isn't shown |
| 20:25.49 | malreth | TS|Skrom: YUO FAIL IT! |
| 20:26.06 | Kirochi | yup |
| 20:26.08 | Kirochi | and |
| 20:26.14 | Kirochi | noteworthy to mention |
| 20:26.22 | Kirochi | the link doesn't even work ;) |
| 20:26.27 | Kirkburn | oh lol |
| 20:26.29 | Kevorkian | ah the floor is called prior to the division |
| 20:26.36 | Kevorkian | that's what was throwing me off |
| 20:26.46 | Kirkburn | Someone keeps killing the wiki, I'm sure of it |
| 20:27.10 | zenzelezz | it all started after Kirk became an admin |
| 20:27.11 | Kevorkian | they stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast |
| 20:27.14 | zenzelezz | /ponder |
| 20:27.39 | Kirochi | yes |
| 20:27.44 | Kirochi | shandris=shatiana ? |
| 20:27.45 | Kirkburn | Oh wait, yeah, I should stop doing the DDOS attacks shouldn't I, now I'm admin :P |
| 20:28.07 | Kirkburn | I'd like to hope they're different people |
| 20:28.08 | Kirochi | shandris=orkk |
| 20:28.14 | Kirochi | orkk=shatiana ? |
| 20:28.35 | Kirkburn | I'm sure there's more than one person uploading images y'know :P |
| 20:28.46 | Kirochi | :p |
| 20:28.49 | Kirochi | "Anyways, we can't stop people from creating sigs based on ours in the first place :/ " |
| 20:29.00 | Kirochi | What do you mean ? |
| 20:29.34 | Kirkburn | People can easily make a sig like [[User:Kirkburn|Kirkburn]] |
| 20:29.58 | Kirochi | is it a reference to what I've done ? |
| 20:30.23 | Kirkburn | Heh, er, well I did see that before I wrote it ;) |
| 20:30.32 | Kirochi | ^^ |
| 20:30.43 | Kirochi | will you erase this sig ? |
| 20:31.04 | Kirochi | I just made it to test if I was able to do something like it |
| 20:31.27 | Kirkburn | Yeah, that's fine :P Just don't use it again, pwease =) |
| 20:31.40 | Kirkburn | At least, not with the dotted underline thing |
| 20:32.06 | Kirkburn | Putting (talk) next to them is very useful, I reckon |
| 20:32.45 | Kirochi | The dotted underline was added to sting your eyes ^-^ |
| 20:33.18 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 20:39.27 | Kirochi | ok bye |
| 20:39.31 | Kirochi | bedtime |
| 20:39.33 | cogwheel | gah... i was boggled about the rounding thing 'till i realize the math.floor is where the negative number magic is... |
| 20:39.36 | Xuerian | Bye bye :P |
| 20:39.51 | cogwheel | math.floor(-0.5) == -1 |
| 20:42.24 | Kevorkian | ya, that's what I said |
| 20:42.44 | Kevorkian | (04:26:29 PM) Kevorkian: ah the floor is called prior to the division (04:26:36 PM) Kevorkian: that's what was throwing me off |
| 20:42.46 | cogwheel | yeah... i went afk for a sec ;) |
| 20:42.47 | malreth | that's an example of rounding to -inf |
| 20:43.09 | TS|Skrom | .....I suck at this graphics crap |
| 20:43.11 | cogwheel | malreth: i'm still not following you on the whole rounding to infinity thing... |
| 20:43.34 | malreth | when you round a number, you actually have to define what that means |
| 20:44.28 | malreth | you can round to +inf, -inf, +/-inf, or to zero |
| 20:44.38 | malreth | well, i think i'm skipping a few details |
| 20:44.48 | malreth | but the idea is there |
| 20:45.17 | cogwheel | ..... i thought we were rounding to the nearest integer... i'm really not getting what you're trying to say |
| 20:45.33 | cogwheel | well, nearest decimal place anyway |
| 20:45.44 | malreth | yeah, i think that's the detail i'm missing |
| 20:45.57 | malreth | well, anyways, math.floor is an example of rounding to -inf |
| 20:46.03 | malreth | math.ceil goes to +inf |
| 20:46.29 | malreth | some people would think that math.floor is equivalent to just truncating the decimals |
| 20:46.32 | cogwheel | i consider them going to the nearest integer less-than or equal to (for floor) or greater than or equal to (for ceil) |
| 20:46.37 | malreth | but that's not true in the case of negative numbers |
| 20:46.45 | cogwheel | i don't see where "infinity" comes in... |
| 20:47.15 | malreth | maybe i should say "towards" instead of "to"? |
| 20:48.30 | cogwheel | I think that would have helped keep me from thinking too hard about it, yes... ;) |
| 20:49.03 | cogwheel | oooh... round-to-even looks fun... |
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| 20:49.29 | cogwheel | 1.5 -> 2, 2.5 -> 2, 3.5 -> 3, 4.5 -> 4 ... |
| 20:49.29 | malreth | there's all sorts of rounding algorithms |
| 20:50.47 | malreth | stochastic rounding is even more fun |
| 20:51.08 | malreth | 1.5 -> 2... 1.5->oh, let's say 1 this time |
| 20:51.48 | Kirkburn | Everyone learns in school that 0.5 -> 1 :) |
| 20:52.15 | Kirkburn | Notice I'm not saying school is correct :P |
| 20:52.16 | cogwheel | WTF? some people called here at work to do a survey regarding "Women listening to local radio".... I told them to put us on their do not call list... The guy was pleasant enough about it. Then, literally less than a minute later, someone else calls from the same company to do the same survey... |
| 20:52.34 | cogwheel | Kirkburn: don't worry... i would never expect that sort of blasphemy from you ;) |
| 20:52.36 | Iriel | I've been having real problems with survey companies calling after I tell them not to |
| 20:53.06 | malreth | cogwheel: http://www.xs4all.nl/~egbg/counterscript.html |
| 20:53.12 | cogwheel | It's how they get around the national do not call registry. |
| 20:53.13 | Kirov | Iriel is getting surveyly |
| 20:53.14 | malreth | and Iriel, too |
| 20:53.16 | tyroney|work | cogwheel: They probably use either no or bad autodialing software. |
| 20:53.18 | cogwheel | they're not "selling" anything |
| 20:53.38 | malreth | if you can't get rid of them... make their life miserable |
| 20:53.52 | malreth | just follow the script to fun and profit |
| 20:53.57 | malreth | s/profit/more fun/ |
| 20:55.14 | Beladona | so um |
| 20:55.17 | Beladona | that link you sent |
| 20:55.25 | Beladona | upon clicking it, came with popups |
| 20:55.41 | cogwheel | it's fine... learn2firefox :P |
| 20:55.43 | Beladona | gotta love talking about countering telemarketers, while advertising with popups |
| 20:55.55 | malreth | blame the provider |
| 20:55.56 | tyroney|work | Yeah. I love how they have this long, detailed script desinged to keep you from hanging up, and when you're finally able to get a word in to tell them goodbye, they seem unhappy that you didn't say so sooner. |
| 20:55.57 | cogwheel | still, i do love a bit of irony in the afternoon |
| 20:56.06 | malreth | xs4all probably puts them there |
| 20:56.08 | Beladona | that was with firefox cogwheel |
| 20:56.09 | TS|Skrom | if that's the case I have some shirts that need pressed |
| 20:56.09 | Beladona | but thanks |
| 20:56.23 | cogwheel | hmm... mine blocked it... strange |
| 20:56.26 | malreth | mine too |
| 20:56.28 | cogwheel | you using 2b2? |
| 20:56.34 | Beladona | this is my counterscript |
| 20:56.37 | malreth | didn't even know there were popups |
| 20:56.43 | Beladona | when a telemarketer calls, I let them talk |
| 20:56.46 | Beladona | and I breathe heavy |
| 20:56.49 | Beladona | I mean REALLY HEAVY |
| 20:56.54 | Beladona | like I am having an orgasm |
| 20:56.58 | Beladona | they usualy hang up |
| 20:56.59 | malreth | are you a girl? |
| 20:57.02 | Beladona | no |
| 20:57.09 | Kevorkian | I just hang up. there's no point in talking to those folks |
| 20:57.10 | Beladona | hence the hanging up |
| 20:57.15 | malreth | darn... i had a mental image going on there |
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| 20:57.39 | cogwheel | JoshBorke should've logged in 5 minutes ago ;) |
| 20:57.40 | Beladona | I tend to get creative |
| 20:57.50 | Beladona | I had Jehovah witness come to my door once |
| 20:58.00 | Beladona | I picked up a cat, and a knife, one in each hand, and opened the door |
| 20:58.04 | Kirov | When I get calls from people trying to sell stuff, or doing "surveys" or "we have some helpful unformation" I usually just say, "No" and if they continue I don't know because I've already hung up. |
| 20:58.12 | Beladona | said "You are just in time! I was about to fix dinner!" |
| 20:58.13 | malreth | my friend used to work as a telemarketer |
| 20:58.14 | Kirov | The worst ones are the ones that call back. |
| 20:58.22 | krka | meh, i dont like wasting my own time |
| 20:58.28 | cogwheel | Heh... we had mormons come to our apartment a lot... The church apparently rents a permanent appartment that the missionaries live in... |
| 20:58.43 | cogwheel | I put up a "Darwin loves you" sticker on the door and they never came back... |
| 20:58.48 | Beladona | yeah um, never go to a mormon church |
| 20:58.56 | Beladona | they hunt you down forever |
| 20:59.12 | Beladona | I have moved 3 times since then, and they always find me |
| 20:59.13 | malreth | problem is the 'heavy breathing' would get classified as 'obnoxious' and you'd automatically be placed on a different list to be called at a different time |
| 20:59.15 | cogwheel | Beladona: It's true... my wife is an ex-mormon... they are still harrassing her after 7 years |
| 20:59.37 | Beladona | but what do you expect from the leaders in geneology |
| 20:59.40 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 20:59.45 | Beladona | they can find ANYONE |
| 20:59.47 | Beladona | hehe |
| 20:59.59 | krka | you can't spell mormon without moron |
| 21:00.16 | cogwheel | god.. her father (who she's disowned) is still obsessed with geneology... of her mom's side of the family... |
| 21:00.30 | tyroney|work | I hate business sales people. Every once in awhile some vendor will get in their heads that they want a cheap non-profit as a customer, and they'll keep trying to sell me something, even though I'm not really the person who'd have the authority to OK it. |
| 21:00.35 | Beladona | cogwheel - tell her to ask them for a written letter to eb removed from their records |
| 21:00.37 | Beladona | thats what I had to do |
| 21:00.51 | zenzelezz | yarr... Eye of C'thun to 1%, getting close |
| 21:01.11 | cogwheel | Hmm... i think we did that... it's less the church that's going after her than it is all her family members who still go... |
| 21:01.17 | Beladona | oh |
| 21:01.22 | Beladona | thats different |
| 21:01.51 | cogwheel | They're seriously nuts.... When they heard we were getting married, they ambushed her at work with pamphlets and bibles and stuff to try to get us to have the wedding at the temple |
| 21:02.15 | Beladona | they gave me this crap about "you will be as if you had never been a member, blah blah, revoke your status as a priest, blah blah. I was like yeah thanks, Signed! |
| 21:02.55 | cogwheel | We ended up having a civil ceremony at the courthouse with my mom as witness (so we didn't have to pay an extra $60) and threw a pot luck at my grandma's house... |
| 21:02.55 | Kirov | zenzelezz - Eye of C'Thun is the easy part. |
| 21:03.02 | cogwheel | now *that's* the way to get married |
| 21:03.43 | Kevorkian | my wife's parents gave us 10 grand (a decent amount at the time) and told us we could have a cheap wedding or elope and do something fun with the money. we eloped |
| 21:04.27 | cogwheel | that was nice of them :) |
| 21:04.28 | Beladona | I had the normal wedding |
| 21:04.37 | zenzelezz | Kirov: of course, but you can't jump straight to part 2 :) |
| 21:04.37 | Beladona | church, flowers, cake, all that |
| 21:04.45 | Kevorkian | my wife's parents are supremely cool. |
| 21:04.48 | zenzelezz | now if only a few people would listen to what the raid is saying... |
| 21:05.15 | Kevorkian | stop DPS?! what the heck, I'm just gonna nuke till I pull aggro and die! |
| 21:05.24 | malreth | interview with a programmer who uses a monte carlo method as the basis of a go playing program: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,71804-0.html?tw=rss.index |
| 21:06.49 | malreth | ah... it can only play 9x9 go... that's a big limitation |
| 21:06.52 | Beladona | homeward! be back later! |
| 21:07.07 | cogwheel | yeah... when i saw those numbers i was a little skeptical |
| 21:07.17 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Beladona (n=sluster@24.129.136.26) |
| 21:07.19 | Kaso | does RegisterAllEvents call RegisterEvent ? |
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| 21:07.45 | Kirov | Kaso doubtful |
| 21:07.49 | Kevorkian | malreth: nothing new http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Go_programming#Monte-Carlo_methods |
| 21:07.51 | cogwheel | i was thinking something like deep blue but then they said four processor opteron machine and thought O.o |
| 21:07.53 | TS|Skrom | does anyone have a list of all textures with maybe graphics to go along with em? |
| 21:08.04 | TS|Skrom | for those of us coding at work :D |
| 21:08.20 | malreth | Kevorkian: the programmer puts a slight twist to the standard monte carlo method |
| 21:08.28 | Kirov | ~8ball |
| 21:08.29 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Better not tell you now |
| 21:08.40 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: just stick interface.mpq and wowblpviewer on a CD and bring it to work ;) |
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| 21:09.02 | TS|Skrom | good call |
| 21:09.17 | TS|Skrom | how big? I can slip em on my flash drive |
| 21:09.38 | malreth | the interview gives the details |
| 21:09.45 | cogwheel | 68 MB for interface.mpq |
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| 21:09.55 | Xuerian | Don't you just hate it when you tab back in from editing a mod, just to catch yourself with 10hp left, and just in time to watch the killing blow land? |
| 21:10.34 | MikkZzz | Yes :-P |
| 21:10.52 | Kaso | it doesnt :< damnit |
| 21:10.52 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:11.11 | Kirov | I did that once aparently a druid had been smacking on me for about 5 minutes and had only just gotten be down |
| 21:11.15 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: hmm... now that i think about it, some stuff might be in patch.mpq.... you might be better off using the AddOn kit at home and zipping up Blizzard Interface Art yourself (you'd still need BLPViewer to look at the files) |
| 21:11.19 | Kirov | Then he spit on me |
| 21:11.19 | Xuerian | Heya ckknight :P |
| 21:11.28 | Xuerian | Haha Kirov XD |
| 21:12.12 | thr | can you do |
| 21:12.18 | thr | parent="$parent" in a virtual frame? |
| 21:12.22 | malreth | hmm... Crazy Stone still seems to lose to GnuGo... |
| 21:13.19 | Xuerian | Thr: Why would you need to do that? o_0 |
| 21:13.23 | thr | forget it ;P |
| 21:13.25 | thr | < stupid |
| 21:13.57 | Xuerian | lol <3 |
| 21:14.40 | tyroney|work | isn't there some runScript() function? |
| 21:14.42 | malreth | gah! it plays on the 2-1 point... it plays into atari |
| 21:15.07 | Xuerian | loadstring & assert |
| 21:15.17 | krka | i believe there is also a RunScript |
| 21:15.25 | malreth | ok... gonna go home |
| 21:15.33 | malreth | later all |
| 21:15.35 | Xuerian | Have fun, malreth :P |
| 21:15.43 | tyroney|work | I was thinking it would be entertaining to make a macro that executes arg1. Just to see what happens. |
| 21:15.59 | tyroney|work | Actually it would be boring, but I still want to try. |
| 21:17.07 | krka | seems kinda pointless but sure :) |
| 21:18.17 | JoshBorke | wait, what did i miss? |
| 21:18.22 | JoshBorke | ~logs |
| 21:18.24 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 21:19.11 | JoshBorke | damn, no logs from today |
| 21:19.33 | JoshBorke | cogwheel: ping |
| 21:24.21 | Kaso | frames' order they recive events in is in the order they registered them in? or just in some arbitary order |
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| 21:33.31 | cogwheel | JoshBorke: pong |
| 21:34.11 | cogwheel | don't you hate it when your boss has a big yellow exclamation mark over his head? |
| 21:36.05 | Mery | buy him this: http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=609 |
| 21:39.21 | cogwheel | He'd have to switch to this one every other monday: http://www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?affid=-1&productID=608 |
| 21:41.47 | cogwheel | JoshBorke: Just Beladona describing his anti-telemarketer strategy... :P |
| 21:42.25 | Cairenn | why do I think it wouldn't work for me? |
| 21:42.48 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 21:43.25 | cogwheel | Cairenn, if you did that, they'd probably pay *you*.... |
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| 21:52.37 | thr | hmm |
| 21:52.59 | cogwheel | inc |
| 21:53.02 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 21:58.01 | Cairenn | hello? you want to sell me an automatic orange-juice squeezer? mmmmm And it comes with an attachment to julienne fries? oh god! If I order today I get a free year's subscription to Homemaker's Weekly? yes, oh yes! Do I want to hear more? yes yes yes oh god |
| 22:00.41 | cogwheel | LOL... i actually ordered a food dehydrater and it came with an orange juicer and food slicer (which can do french fries) |
| 22:00.43 | Gryphen | mmm orange fries |
| 22:03.50 | *** part/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 22:05.17 | TS|Skrom | wheee I have a working minimap button which can be drug, be hidden from the options menu and has a tooltip! now if only I could make a decent butten texture to save my life >< |
| 22:05.31 | Kaso | he, drug |
| 22:05.58 | TS|Skrom | yeah drug :P |
| 22:06.25 | TS|Skrom | I'm a network admin and part time programmer, I don't speak english. My sentances all end with () or ; |
| 22:07.28 | zenzelezz | SYN |
| 22:08.36 | cogwheel | s/ug/agged/ |
| 22:08.57 | TS|Skrom | yeah yeah yeah :p |
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| 22:19.29 | Kaso | is the order frames get events determinable? |
| 22:19.31 | zenzelezz | EU forums seem messed up |
| 22:19.38 | zenzelezz | The requested resource (/) is not available. |
| 22:20.00 | Cairenn | us have been down all day too |
| 22:22.28 | cogwheel | kaso, i suspect not, but they *might* happen in the order tha EnumerateFrames() presents them... |
| 22:22.40 | cladhaire | Cairenn: I ordered the "Magic Bullet" http://www.buythebullet.com/ =) |
| 22:22.53 | cladhaire | Back a while ago.. I even got TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE! |
| 22:23.07 | cogwheel | my mother in law got one of those :) |
| 22:23.13 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:23.14 | Kaso | that sentance confused me for a second |
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| 22:23.52 | Iriel | Frames appear to get events in the order they registered for them |
| 22:24.04 | Kirkburn | Oh, it's a kitchen appliance |
| 22:24.19 | Iriel | but i've not done extensive testing to verify that |
| 22:24.41 | Kaso | hmm |
| 22:24.43 | cogwheel | hmm |
| 22:24.55 | cogwheel | XD |
| 22:25.03 | Kaso | that'd mean i could never recive an event before the default UI |
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| 22:25.51 | cogwheel | Kaso: you could go through all of FrameXML, look for event registration, unregister them all after your addon loads and then reregister them... :O |
| 22:26.17 | Kaso | ha |
| 22:26.24 | Kaso | sounds like atlot of work |
| 22:26.32 | Kaso | i doubt itll cause me problems anyway |
| 22:26.49 | tyroney|work | I've heard those magic bullets are awesom. |
| 22:26.55 | tyroney|work | s/m./me. |
| 22:27.41 | cogwheel | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 22:27.42 | purl | ACTION keel-hauls the forums. Yarrrrr! |
| 22:27.48 | cladhaire | tyroney|work: I enjoy it :P |
| 22:27.55 | cladhaire | I don't make the 10 minute meals, but its handy |
| 22:28.05 | Iriel | Why would you need to receive an event before the base UI? |
| 22:28.18 | Iriel | (Note some parts of the UI load on demand, so you can register before it does there) |
| 22:28.21 | tyroney|work | If I had one, I'd probably be drinking frozen strawberry shakes every day. So I probably won't be getting one. |
| 22:29.48 | Kaso | i want to prevent the UI seeing when i swap raid groups around alot i dont lag. |
| 22:30.01 | cogwheel | Heh... we might have gotten a magic bullet if a $200 blender weren't one of the first gifts i bought my wife ;) |
| 22:30.14 | cogwheel | (she loves smoothies and iced coffe drinks) |
| 22:30.50 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 22:31.00 | cladhaire | psh.. who needs a blender =) |
| 22:31.49 | cogwheel | oh and then after she turned 21 *coughs* mixers became a hit too |
| 22:32.14 | tyroney|work | Vitamix? |
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| 22:34.52 | Meatwad | hello ladies |
| 22:35.53 | Cairenn | as the only lady present ... hi |
| 22:36.25 | JoshBorke | ~catcall |
| 22:36.41 | CapnOsagasu | Which just shows the huge difference between guy geeks and girl geeks in numbers. |
| 22:36.43 | cogwheel | I think we had a token female in each programming class i was in |
| 22:36.56 | CapnOsagasu | Leave me alone, I've been talking like a pirate all damn day, I'm tired of it. |
| 22:37.40 | Tem_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEzGIuY7kw |
| 22:37.42 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 22:38.03 | CapnOsagasu | cogwheel, we have had one lady in all my geek classes. |
| 22:38.11 | CapnOsagasu | and I literally mean one. Same girl. |
| 22:38.45 | Tem_ | I've reached the point in my csc classes where the male to female ratio can no longer be expressed in real numbers |
| 22:38.56 | cogwheel | yeah... i think mine might've been the same one... |
| 22:39.10 | Meatwad | ::sigh:: female geeks |
| 22:39.13 | cogwheel | lol... i didn't mean the same as yours but that's funny so i'll stick with it |
| 22:39.19 | Xuerian | lol |
| 22:39.54 | cogwheel | Actually, my guild seems to have the highest female player to female character of any guild on our server... |
| 22:40.13 | TS|Skrom | What's worse then a lack of female geeks is females who pretend to be |
| 22:40.13 | cogwheel | s/r o/r ratio o/ |
| 22:40.31 | TS|Skrom | so you get married and then everything is great and then she's like YOU CAN'T RAID TONIGHT WE HAVE TO GO OUT WITH MY PARENTS |
| 22:40.35 | TS|Skrom | and you are like NOOOOO |
| 22:40.42 | TS|Skrom | and she's like YESSSS RAWR I HATE YOU |
| 22:40.49 | cogwheel | TS|Skrom: i guess i'm lucky then ;) |
| 22:41.04 | Tem_ | I submit that anyone who says the word "rawr" is, in fact, a real geek. |
| 22:41.09 | TS|Skrom | my next wife has to have dead parents before I marry her |
| 22:41.19 | TS|Skrom | I'm not picky about if they're dead when we meet, I know a guy |
| 22:41.22 | Meatwad | my lady talks about engagment....i cower in fear |
| 22:41.22 | Cairenn | meh, I just got my parents hooked on the game too |
| 22:41.23 | CapnOsagasu | I know it is for mine. all but two of our healers (That's three classes, take one shadow priest and a retnoob pally) are women. One of our tanks is, and a few of our mages are. |
| 22:41.25 | cogwheel | s/d p/d rich p/ |
| 22:41.57 | TS|Skrom | lol |
| 22:42.00 | TS|Skrom | I |
| 22:42.06 | TS|Skrom | I'll take poor as long as they don't interfere |
| 22:42.29 | CapnOsagasu | So, about... 10%? of my guild is female. |
| 22:42.38 | cogwheel | she doesn't read /. though, so.... |
| 22:42.42 | CapnOsagasu | MAYBE 15% |
| 22:42.52 | Tem_ | Every single one of the women in my guild is a healer |
| 22:42.56 | cogwheel | our GL is female, as are most of the officers |
| 22:42.57 | Tem_ | no pallies |
| 22:43.01 | Tem_ | only druids and priests |
| 22:43.03 | Meatwad | yes, but are they hot? |
| 22:43.32 | Tem_ | (well, one guy's wife is a mage, but she never really plays) |
| 22:43.34 | Cairenn | Tem_: Lyre plays a rogue and my main is hunter |
| 22:43.53 | CapnOsagasu | What scares me is the amount of couples in my guild. |
| 22:43.56 | Tem_ | Lyre == mini Cair? |
| 22:44.14 | Meatwad | i have a midget in my desk drawer... |
| 22:44.27 | cogwheel | CapnOsagasu: we had alts in a guild that was made up of 5 or 6 couples, and their children... |
| 22:44.29 | CapnOsagasu | You're an uncooked, giant meatball. be quiet. |
| 22:45.02 | Cairenn | Lyre = my daughter, yes, but most definitely not a mini-Cair |
| 22:45.11 | Cairenn | she's pretty |
| 22:45.19 | cogwheel | zomg screenshots! |
| 22:45.19 | Meatwad | *begins to cry* |
| 22:45.27 | cogwheel | or it isn't true :P |
| 22:45.39 | Cairenn | they've been posted before |
| 22:45.45 | Esamynn | ~comfort Meatwad |
| 22:45.47 | purl | There, there, Meatwad. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:45.54 | Cairenn | people can attest to her prettiness |
| 22:46.00 | Tem | Cairenn, of your daughter? I've seen pictures of you, but not her (I think) |
| 22:46.01 | Meatwad | :D |
| 22:46.02 | CapnOsagasu | I've seen them. |
| 22:46.11 | CapnOsagasu | She's almost as pretty as Cair. Almost. :P |
| 22:46.20 | Tem | hmm, was she perhaps in a group photo or something? |
| 22:46.28 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 22:46.31 | Tem | wtf? someone is knocking on my door |
| 22:46.33 | Cairenn | good luck |
| 22:46.45 | cogwheel | hmm... actually a lot of WoW ui related stuff... |
| 22:46.54 | CapnOsagasu | No need to check google images, I'm pretty sure the Blizzcon pics are still up on WoWi |
| 22:46.58 | Cairenn | nope |
| 22:47.02 | Meatwad | tem: answer it with your wang out, and ask if they're hookers |
| 22:47.03 | CapnOsagasu | Bah. |
| 22:47.17 | cogwheel | and some guy licking a gray 'fro wearing lady's umm... |
| 22:47.18 | zenzelezz | check archive.org if you remember the URL :-o |
| 22:47.40 | Esamynn | ..................... |
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| 22:48.28 | CapnOsagasu | All of those little pixel dolls of your are on google images. |
| 22:48.35 | CapnOsagasu | But no pics of you, Cair. |
| 22:48.37 | Tem | eh it was my roomate |
| 22:48.40 | Tem | he locked himself out |
| 22:48.49 | Cairenn | Tem: heh |
| 22:49.02 | Cairenn | CapnOsagasu: heh, no kidding :p |
| 22:49.27 | CapnOsagasu | be yarr be. |
| 22:50.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Osagasu (n=Kronus@208.104.133.240) |
| 22:51.51 | Tem | White and Nerdy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEzGIuY7kw |
| 22:51.52 | Esamynn | hmm, I find myself torn between two choices, read a paper for my class in 40 minutes, or code....... |
| 22:52.04 | Cairenn | Esamynn: class |
| 22:52.17 | Tem | code |
| 22:52.23 | Tem | the answer is always code |
| 22:52.54 | Esamynn | Cairenn: *response deleted* |
| 22:53.01 | Esamynn | ~lart Tem |
| 22:53.06 | cogwheel | i'm looking forward and yet dreading going back to school |
| 22:53.11 | Meatwad | is there a channel with chicks? |
| 22:53.18 | cogwheel | luckily i don't have to deal with G.E. |
| 22:53.26 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Mike_ (i=Mike@gateway/tor/x-b4e56cdaa634c49f) |
| 22:53.32 | Tem | GE is the bane of my existance |
| 22:53.39 | Esamynn | GE? |
| 22:53.48 | Meatwad | Genderal Education? |
| 22:53.55 | Tem | yes |
| 22:53.56 | Meatwad | *general |
| 22:54.14 | cogwheel | Meatwad: yep |
| 22:55.20 | Meatwad | i am an english major..... |
| 22:55.26 | Esamynn | well, if I give my sense of responsibility, Cairenn and Tem each a vote, class wins 2-1 ;) |
| 22:55.48 | Tem | bah |
| 22:55.58 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Health (n=thecooki@c-7619e655.132-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:56.01 | Health | cladhaire, you there? :) |
| 22:56.08 | cladhaire | aye |
| 22:56.11 | Tem | Meatwad, that's an odd major for someone who is in this channel |
| 22:56.16 | cladhaire | when you make my client beep i am |
| 22:56.29 | Meatwad | tem: i have no idea where i am |
| 22:56.34 | Kirov | lol |
| 22:56.48 | Tem | I own a shirt that says "I have no idea what's going on." |
| 22:56.57 | Kirov | you're in #wowi-lounge on irc.freenode.net |
| 22:56.59 | Kirov | duh |
| 22:56.59 | cogwheel | I'm going to law school soon ;) |
| 22:56.59 | Health | yay! I saw RaidSimulation.lua in PerfectRaid and was wondering if it was useful to play around with if you want to tweak settings? /script RaidSimulation:Start() didn't seem to do the magic. |
| 22:57.02 | Esamynn | sounds about right for you Tem |
| 22:57.25 | Tem | Health, PerfectRaid:Simulate() |
| 22:57.34 | Meatwad | what is wowi? |
| 22:57.36 | Tem | should have read the logs, Health |
| 22:57.46 | Esamynn | Meatwad: www.wowinterface.com |
| 22:57.54 | Tem | Meatwad, are you high, dumb, or playing one of the above? |
| 22:58.06 | Health | Tem: Stupid me! I don't even haev logs :P |
| 22:58.11 | Tem | svn log |
| 22:58.12 | Health | If you don't mean svn logs |
| 22:58.18 | Health | Ah, read a bit didn't find it |
| 22:58.20 | Kirov | Tem - I think he's a ball of processed mammal parts |
| 22:58.30 | Health | Thank you. |
| 22:59.07 | Tem | np |
| 22:59.17 | Meatwad | aw crap, wow = world of war...not world of women |
| 22:59.19 | Cairenn | Meatwad: this is a channel for folks that right user interface modifications for the MMORPG World of Warcraft to hang out in |
| 22:59.29 | Cairenn | write* |
| 22:59.32 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Meatwad (n=Brandon@ip24-250-67-168.br.br.cox.net) |
| 22:59.43 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 22:59.45 | zenzelezz | guess he was looking for women on a lounge |
| 23:00.00 | Kirov | zenzelezz - he found Cair, that doesn't count? |
| 23:00.27 | Wobin | rofl |
| 23:00.30 | Wobin | World of Women =P |
| 23:00.43 | Kirov | Maybe I should of changed my kick to sixteenfemaleyes |
| 23:00.54 | Kirov | s/kick/nick/ |
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| 23:01.03 | Wobin | Now, I just read that as 'Sixteen Female Eyes' =P |
| 23:01.13 | Esamynn|reading | ~lart Kirov |
| 23:01.19 | Cairenn | Esamynn|reading: school |
| 23:01.23 | Cairenn | Esamynn|reading: not channel |
| 23:01.38 | Esamynn|reading | Cairenn: yes mom :P |
| 23:01.52 | Cairenn | :p |
| 23:01.54 | FifteenFemaleYes | ARE TEERE NE CUT GYS HEREE? |
| 23:02.07 | Wobin | Gee |
| 23:02.12 | Wobin | that's a bit personal =P |
| 23:02.19 | Wobin | Especially for a first question =P |
| 23:02.48 | Kirov | Wobin - obviously never spent much time on "more public" chat channels |
| 23:03.02 | Kirov | btw |
| 23:03.08 | Kirov | "CUT" == cute |
| 23:03.14 | Wobin | Oh |
| 23:03.18 | Wobin | Well that makes more sense |
| 23:03.20 | cogwheel | wobin: lost you for a sec 'till your jewish comment... |
| 23:03.23 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:03.33 | cogwheel | which is really surprising since my grandmother is Marilyn Milos |
| 23:03.40 | cogwheel | (google that name... you'll understand) |
| 23:03.48 | cogwheel | she even has a wikipedia entry |
| 23:04.17 | Wobin | Well, it's a silly thing |
| 23:04.24 | Wobin | Unless for religious reasons |
| 23:04.43 | Wobin | Cause there always have been silly things done in the name of religion |
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| 23:05.32 | Wobin | wow. That's wonderfully socially correct.... |
| 23:06.03 | Kirov | I hear some religions force their members to tie themselves up and pack tightly in to dimly lit, smoke filled rooms while being yelled at. |
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| 23:07.16 | Wobin | Dreadful! |
| 23:07.18 | Xuerian | cladhaire: Ping! ^_^ |
| 23:08.13 | cladhaire | Xuerian: Hello |
| 23:08.36 | Xuerian | Hai ^_^. Pm >_> |
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| 23:09.30 | Kirkburn | How random, this video only works on one of my screens |
| 23:09.41 | cogwheel | give it a sec... |
| 23:09.51 | cogwheel | might take a bit for your video drivers to get a clue |
| 23:10.02 | Wobin | Kirkburn: Check for overlay |
| 23:10.18 | Kirkburn | It normally takes it only about a sec for that, this is full-on no movement (sound is fine) |
| 23:10.48 | Health | Tem, is group numbers on by default now? |
| 23:10.48 | cogwheel | move the window halfway between the two and see if one half looks fine... |
| 23:10.58 | Tem | Health, dunno |
| 23:11.03 | Kirkburn | Left side moves :P |
| 23:11.54 | cogwheel | yeah... it's an acceleration problem... the drivers usually only want to do accel on the primary monitor, though if you start the video on the secondary one, it will be able to switch back and forth easily... |
| 23:11.59 | Kirkburn | But only in MPC, if I use WMP, it's fine ... |
| 23:12.25 | cogwheel | hmmm... don't know about MPC... WMP probably has more intimate dealings with the drivers since it's an MS program... |
| 23:12.30 | Kirkburn | true |
| 23:12.50 | Kirkburn | nvm, this is the only video I've had the problem with |
| 23:13.12 | Kirkburn | The Vista task manager is really really good :) |
| 23:13.31 | Kirkburn | (the video shows Vista) |
| 23:14.02 | cladhaire | soup and a sandwich, or baked ziti? |
| 23:15.38 | Kirkburn | Um ... it shows individual program network, CPU and RAM usage :) |
| 23:17.06 | cogwheel | Kirkburn: link? |
| 23:17.19 | Kirkburn | http://www.vistablogging.com/ |
| 23:17.35 | Kirkburn | From the Stardock guys, video link is after the screenshots |
| 23:18.31 | Wobin | stardock =P |
| 23:19.41 | Kirkburn | Object Desktop is awesome =) |
| 23:21.04 | Xuerian | Kirkburn: Why aren't you using process explorer already? :) |
| 23:21.26 | Kirkburn | Err, never heard of it |
| 23:21.49 | Xuerian | www.sysinternals.com - go, browse, download, be enlightened. |
| 23:22.26 | Kirkburn | I'll have to take a look |
| 23:22.54 | Health | cladhaire: Sorry for stupid questions.. but.. you removed the show group number stuff in latest perfectraid? |
| 23:23.35 | Xuerian | It's home to tons of nifty free (not ad supported) utlities for windows adminning. ProcExp trumps any taskmanager. It shows EVERYTHING about running processes, displays in a tree, allows handle and module browsing, even monitoring individual thread resource usage per process |
| 23:24.24 | cogwheel | And it was recently bought by microsoft, wasn't it? |
| 23:24.47 | Xuerian | Not afaik o_0 |
| 23:25.11 | cogwheel | http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/07/microsoft_buys.html |
| 23:25.13 | cladhaire | Health: Yes I did, not sure how i want to put it back |
| 23:25.31 | cogwheel | (first google search result on microsoft buys sysinternals) |
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| 23:25.40 | Xuerian | Ah >_> |
| 23:25.42 | Esamynn | Cairenn: yes mom :P |
| 23:25.44 | Xuerian | Well, they're still damn good tools |
| 23:25.50 | Esamynn | ack |
| 23:25.53 | Esamynn | oops |
| 23:26.00 | Xuerian | If Vista impliments the full power of procexp in it's taskmanager, well, that's great |
| 23:26.11 | Kirkburn | Doesn't bother me that they have :) |
| 23:26.16 | Esamynn | i hit my arrow keys by accident |
| 23:26.35 | Esamynn | later all |
| 23:26.37 | Kirkburn | It's like one of those moments when you call the teacher 'mum' |
| 23:26.49 | Kirkburn | See ya Esamynn |
| 23:26.55 | Esamynn | hah, scroll up Kirkburn, i had good reason to earlier ;) |
| 23:26.57 | Xuerian | Cya Esamynn :P |
| 23:27.13 | Cairenn | later Esamynn |
| 23:27.39 | Kirkburn | lol, how did i miss that conversation |
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| 23:28.29 | Health | Okay.. It's nice if you get assigned a few groups to heal for example.. |
| 23:29.05 | JoshBorke | anyone know the texture for the friendslist? |
| 23:30.34 | Maldivia | JoshBorke: background, or ? |
| 23:32.08 | JoshBorke | yea, background |
| 23:32.36 | Maldivia | FriendsFrameTopLeft:SetTexture("Interface\\PaperDollInfoFrame\\UI-Character-General-TopLeft"); |
| 23:32.36 | Maldivia | FriendsFrameTopRight:SetTexture("Interface\\PaperDollInfoFrame\\UI-Character-General-TopRight"); |
| 23:32.36 | Maldivia | FriendsFrameBottomLeft:SetTexture("Interface\\FriendsFrame\\UI-FriendsFrame-BotLeft"); |
| 23:32.36 | Maldivia | FriendsFrameBottomRight:SetTexture("Interface\\FriendsFrame\\UI-FriendsFrame-BotRight"); |
| 23:32.43 | Maldivia | those 4 |
| 23:33.11 | JoshBorke | thanks |
| 23:34.46 | Kaso | am i not allowed to do ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: frame.subframe ? |
| 23:35.07 | Tem | no |
| 23:35.09 | Iriel | No |
| 23:35.09 | Kaso | s/frame/table |
| 23:35.35 | Kaso | so i have to save var the whole table? |
| 23:36.24 | Iriel | you can't save var frames, either |
| 23:36.24 | Tem | saved variables must be string-keyed global variables |
| 23:36.24 | Kaso | ok |
| 23:36.24 | Kirkburn | Hey, I haven't seen TheiverOfToast recently, he gone on holiday? |
| 23:36.35 | Kaso | my typing sucks for some reason today :< |
| 23:36.58 | Maldivia | Tem: would give you an error, stating that it's restricted to Blizzard only |
| 23:37.20 | Maldivia | or well, most likely |
| 23:37.25 | zenzelezz | it did |
| 23:37.27 | zenzelezz | just tried |
| 23:37.40 | Tem | Maldivia, not if called from signed code |
| 23:37.53 | Tem | not that we can, |
| 23:37.54 | Tem | just wondering |
| 23:38.53 | Maldivia | Most likely: it would try to save a variable named "table:BAADC0DE", or it would give an error box stating that it takes a string as parameter |
| 23:40.59 | cladhaire | did you think about typing badcode, or is it just habit from days past? =) |
| 23:41.37 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 23:41.45 | Maldivia | think it's just a habit |
| 23:41.50 | cladhaire | fair enough =) |
| 23:42.00 | Maldivia | it came natural :) |
| 23:42.51 | Maldivia | it's such a nice pointer reference - makes finding uninitialized pointers easy to spot :) |
| 23:43.35 | cladhaire | indeed =) |
| 23:45.48 | cladhaire | someone just tried to explain to me how we're supposed to be using SomeModCustomClick functions for click-casting.. |
| 23:45.59 | cladhaire | It was entirely new information! I feel motivated and informed! |
| 23:46.00 | cladhaire | *vomit* |
| 23:47.46 | Maldivia | heh |
| 23:48.04 | JoshBorke | lol cladhaire |
| 23:48.24 | Kirkburn | Haha, how would you answer this prompt? http://shellrevealed.com/photos/blog_images/images/658/original.aspx |
| 23:48.25 | JoshBorke | Maldivia: blah, how do i use that information to make my frame look like the questlog? :-( |
| 23:48.45 | JoshBorke | s/questlog/friends frame/ |
| 23:48.49 | Kirkburn | (shellrevealed is a new blog from the Vista UI guys) |
| 23:49.08 | Maldivia | JoshBorke: create 4 textures: topleft is 256x256, topright is: 128x256, bottomleft is: 256x128, bottomright is: 128x128 |
| 23:49.49 | JoshBorke | mmk, thanks |
| 23:50.14 | Maldivia | hmm... |
| 23:50.47 | Maldivia | JoshBorke: the bottom textures should be 256 in height aswell |
| 23:51.20 | tyroney|work | or have their texture coords set carefully. |
| 23:57.56 | Kaso | how bad is using RegisterAllEvents |
| 23:58.34 | Iriel | It's for DEVELOPMENT ONLY |
| 23:58.52 | Iriel | realistically, it depends where you are. |
| 23:59.25 | Iriel | For normal addons, if you dont know what events you need, you probably shouldn't be writing addons 8-) |
| 23:59.38 | Kaso | hmm, the problem is i need to register my events before anyone else, but i dont know at that point what to register cos my saved vars arent loaded yet |
